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CMVmanletttime/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 05:38 AM
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Most REAL LIFE SITUATIONS != coding/engineering/blah problems. Engineers and the like are EXTREMELY susceptible to special snowflake rationalizing nonsense, see e.g. racist libertarian beliefs, the toxic parts of TRP, etc. You're just assuming that a person's ability to think critically in ONE area of his or her life = that the person thinks critically in all areas. That's a silly assumption :) Like, really!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 10:15 PM
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Unless you're going to sit here and argue that you're like a Plato or an Aristotle, there is nothing irrational about me assuming that you're more or less like the normal, everyday average Joe --- disposed to RELYING ON and USING that hamster. That's not a woman thing. It's a people thing. Sure, some people can rise above it --- they ain't the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 09:55 PM
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What does a poster called "what to you is the hamster" have to do with cognitive bias? ... https://media.giphy.com/media/vWDrezW0rMjmM/giphy.gif And the actual answer to your questions is pretty much YES. All of those individuals took the same APPROACH to their circumstances. However, their circumstances generated different worldviews. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 09:45 PM
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Yeah okay, special snowflake. Yes, my default presumption is that human beings share certain cognitive biases --- you know, one of those evidence-backed research findings. https://youarenotsosmart.com/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 09:16 PM
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NO my go to (and yours as well) is to figure out what FEELS GOOD. Get off your sexist high horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 09:00 PM
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I mean that you are hamstering male hamstering by arguing that men don't 'rely on it' or 'use it' the way women do. That is false. Men use it in the same way and rely on it, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 08:53 PM
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Itself an example of a hamster.... "We have one too BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME MAN..." FYI, point 2 is inaccurate. The male hamster is pretty much the exact same nonsensical rationalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 08:34 PM
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The main problem is applying a concept like "alpha" to the human species, generally, but that hasn't stopped anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 08:25 PM
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Usually the women men casually hook up with are, in one way or another, "lower" than the men. So, the man, thinking he can do better, holds out on commitment. You are right to say that men want love, relationships, and family. But men, like everyone else, are looking for a "good match" for that type of thing. There are no "gatekeepers of relationships." There are just people who go together and people who do not. If there's a noticeable disparity in lifestyle/attractiveness/etc., then a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 08:25 PM
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Guess what a relationship is? Just long term sexual activities No it isn't, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 08:22 PM
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Men hamster too, so we are assuming a false premise. Examples of the male hamster: Endless spergitude about IQ = rationalizing individual mediocrity. Endless spergitude about womynz choices = rationalizing sexual marketplace failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 08:18 PM
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Both are bad. If you're emotionally distant, why are you wasting your time with someone you don't care about? If you're clingy, why are you wasting your time in a relationship when you aren't settled in yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 08:16 PM
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pretty much everyone is cool with discussing their job; http://thoughtcatalog.com/justin-demarco/2015/03/the-question-what-do-you-do-for-a-living-should-be-outlawed-when-you-first-meet-someone/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/14/questions-you-shouldnt-ask_n_4891367.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/30/the-one-question-to-stop-_n_4171266.html https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/08/americans-job-uncertainty-looking-for-new-life-meaning https://www.psychologytoday.com/…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 06:25 PM
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Anyone who uses the word "cringiest" is not to be taken seriously. Anyone who uses that word and talks about "try hard" is to be laughed at. Lol indeed. What's "cringey", about it, exactly? Asking someone real questions? Showing an effort (you call it "try hard") to get to know the real person? For whatever reason people are extremely afraid of putting themselves out there --- which is why they "cringe" at something as innocuous as knowing the meaning of someone's name and asking real, curious q…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 06:17 PM
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it's silly to expect everyone to constantly walk on eggshells because someone might have an overreaction to a simple non-controversial question. Having a minor bit of consideration for one's fellow man in a casual setting is now "walking on eggshells?" asking about jobs is in no way the same thing; it's an established, normal topic for small talk. Not according to several sources, one of which I cited. Should I start citing to other ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 06:16 PM
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Lecturing and grilling? Please point out where, in the exchange I posted, the lecturing and grilling is contained. The "normal small talk" you refer to has been roundly criticized by several popular sources... And if the dialogue above would be off-putting to you in favor of dialogue that many find rude, then I believe that just speaks to a difference in personal observance of etiquette.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 06:10 PM
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Yes, but people are more than their jobs. To ask someone about their job up front is to signal that the most immediate and important quality about them --- or one of the most --- is their job. What if the individual is unemployed? What if the individual does not like their job --- a common occurrence? Check out #9 (also #1, apparently lol) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/14/questions-you-shouldnt-ask_n_4891367.html
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:54 PM
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It most definitely is not "mining for an excuse." It's rude --- one need not be particularly offended to recognize low-class conduct. "What do you do for a living?" asked within moments of meeting someone is also indicative low-class, status-whoring behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:41 PM
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Ah, well yes, I was referring to situations where you didn't know the person that well at all (think within 5-10 minutes of meeting them or the first or second conversation). I should have been clearer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:29 PM
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The need some people have to put others in a category, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:25 PM
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"Ambiguous looking" dafuq? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:21 PM
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Wherever I go, there I'll be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 11:47 PM
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Ripped abs would be a biological factor, Based on what, exactly? Genetic markers are biologically attractive. Character is psychologically attractive. https://media.giphy.com/media/aZ3LDBs1ExsE8/giphy.gif Psychological traits aren't biological, now? Dafuq? Most attractive guys hang out in the one night stand market, so there is a high demand for them in the relationship market, supply your market with a product which is in demand. Based on what, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 10:11 PM
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That's not oneitis, as RP would put it, that's just a fact https://media.giphy.com/media/l3q2K2I2vCZqvaqoE/giphy.gif I hear you. The whole "people come and go" stuff just ain't true. Some people are just more meant for you than others. And maybe it takes really fucking up once or twice to really get that through your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 11:11 PM
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It all sounds like very high effort and self control, and the really charming James Bond men tend to look effortless. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprezzatura I personally reached a stage in my life where I am the completely opposite. I did enough dutiful, disciplined things, now I am going to follow my own whims and moods. Call it it midlife nofuckgivery at 40. That's the right approach IMO. Truth be told, a subculture of such values sounds like virtue signalling. It is like you revert liberal…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 04:07 PM
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I knew they were all lying to me. Rookie mistake. All women lie, about everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 10:39 PM
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I will be incel in solidarity with all my < 3'7.5" bruvs. I'm 5'5, but it's been a few weeks of misfires at the old barstar circuit. What a great excuse...I mean social cause!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 10:25 PM
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I wonder if I should x-post this to short....so many women here are pretty non-superficial about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 10:23 PM
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I made it. Even me! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas https://media.giphy.com/media/Rf8ihySdwN8ze/giphy.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 10:21 PM
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TRIGGERED
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 10:18 PM
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Well then it's a difference of opinion, and I'm sad that you shut your mind off to people like that. Being wrong or off the mark doesn't mean you have nothing to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 06:10 PM
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That's so interesting. You see, I think the words "TRPers are the ideological equivalent to a man who eats his own shit and says the end is neigh" appear as "TRPers are the ideological equivalent to a man who eats his own shit and says the end is neigh." You apparently have some language difficulties. Rest assured, that is not what I meant in that quote, which is why those words don't appear! It's actually interesting you think that quote would even mean the other thing. Saying that (I'm paraphr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 05:56 PM
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Oh really? Please quote where I said "TRPers are the ideological equivalent to a man who eats his own shit and says the end is neigh."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 05:06 PM
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TRPers are free to show me that they believe otherwise. Isn't that what debate is for? Are you saying TRPers are the ideological equivalent to a man who eats his own shit and says the end is neigh? If so, why so?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 05:04 PM
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The view that attributes to words their original, and in this case, scientific meaning, or perhaps the view that recognizes the huge limitations in applying such a word to human behavior, or maybe it's the view that just looks to what is actually scientific and not shitty ideology? Because yes, for most TRPers, it would be dumb for them to discuss with me. Embarrassment for them would be sure to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 04:50 PM
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I really can't understand why you posted this right here. Is this masochistic pleasure? Are you just bored?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 05:49 AM
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No True Scotsman, boyos!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 05:48 AM
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Spot on. It's so sad to see, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 11:01 PM
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I don't believe in marriage, but if I did, I'd understand that marriage is about finding a partner who I want to have children with, who I could get along with raising children (totally different relationship btw, than interpersonal attraction), and who could bring enough to the table (financially/education/home ec skills/whatever) to compliment what I bring to the table in order to raise our standing within our community. The answer, of course, to the above, would be I don't care. If she slept …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 10:20 PM
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Alpha, used by most TRPers = anything I like. So the term is meaningless. And because most TRPers only watch TV and don't live the life they preach about, their only reference point for men who are successful with women = TV/movies = where certain aspects are exaggerated for comic effect. So a guy's confidence is played up, because it's meant to have people go 'hahahahaha that's kind of assholish.' But if you have no reference frame for "oh that's like a way exaggerated version of this, and yeah…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 08:42 PM
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"Would you mind if I...." and "Do you want this...?" Just ask in a sincere, direct manner, and it won't ruin the mood at all. THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT WILL GET YOU LAID WITH WOMEN YOU BARELY KNOW IS TRUST. Stop trying to live out a fantasy where you can be this dickhead asshole and consistently score women you barely know. It doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 08:39 PM
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Yes but your likes haven't changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 07:31 PM
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No, I don't think it changes. I more or less just think you discover what you like. And I think what you like is a function of whatever meets your needs. So, if the casual sex lifestyle meets most of your needs, you will like it. If it does not, you will not. If it kind of does, then you will have to choose which lifestyle meets more of your needs --- monogamous or casual. Or some combination (poly/serial monogamy).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:56 PM
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Yes, I don't think that's true. If someone likes casual sex and that lifestyle, they will not like monogamous life. People who are more toward the middle will adopt some form of either serial monogamy or open relationship stuff to accommodate themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:50 PM
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Or they tried it out for a time period and decided that overall they didn't like it. That's actually what I think. A person who likes casual sex 20% and hates it 80% maybe will live that life for 6 months. Someone who likes it 49% 51% may live that life for 6 years before leaving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:49 PM
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Yes, you shift toward things you like and move away from things you do not like. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:16 PM
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half of TRP is blame shifting....from 'gee I should work on myself and become attractive' to 'OMG FEMINISM IS THE REASON WHY MY DICK IS DRY GUYZ! SOCIETY SUX! WAAAAAH!' irony. irony to the max.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:15 PM
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Yes, because they don't like the casual sex lifestyle. People do what they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:08 PM
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Dude, if you can go out and get laid consistently...short-term sex...you are in the top 20% of men. The REALITY of the dating world is insane. The problem is that all anyone wants to talk about are those at the tip tip tip of the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:03 PM
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Whatever, this is some sexist bullshit. Men and women shift blame and avoid responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:00 PM
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Hmmmm... Here are my thoughts. If you have ever been very promiscuous --- male or female --- then you are probably never really ever going to enjoy being in a monogamous relationship. OR at least, it's probably not going to last that long (a few years, maybe). They are lifestyle choices. It's not about glory days, it's just about what you prefer as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 05:49 PM
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Just to get the Tyler durden body from fight club takes massive amounts of dedication and highly strict diet. But many men get to that level, most at the gym women barely get to the level where they can squat their own body weight and have some visible abs. https://media.giphy.com/media/26BRCgL3K4lx1zBCw/giphy.gif Many men definitely do NOT get to that level. And what you describe is not the Fight Club body. The TD body is like 6-7% bodyfat and some muscle mass. It's literally just 2 hours in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 03:50 PM
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A President is always alpha by virtue of being the leader of men. Yes, if you use the word in a way that it was not originally meant to be used, you can say it means 'leader of men.' However, what it refers to is a reproductive strategy, and a successful one at that. So if President + No sex is true, then the individual just ain't an alpha. Sorry, Charlie. ...So the beta schlubs I know that disgust me with their pussiness are alphas now? Uhhhhhhhhhhh, your definition just became beyond useless. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 11:28 PM
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No, I totally mean nice in the sense that you're more giving in the interaction than taking. Like, being a little bit of a pushover works best. Keeping her happy works best. Whatever level of nice that can co-exist with escalating when the appropriate time comes is the level of nice that is appropriate. When you're going for a same night lay or casual sex you're asking a lot of someone. To consistently do that you have to be good at gaining someone's trust... For ex, the biggest hit for me escal…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 11:04 PM
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Yes. If you actually go out enough, you'll start to see that women will actually fuck with you if they think you're too good-looking, as well. They will naturally assume you're arrogant or something. That's why a good strategy is to be. nice. It's just the most optimal strategy. Be nice, be polite. Be normal. It removes the defensiveness women may have and allows them to actually feel the attraction they have for you and to explore it. Like, when I go out, I am pretty much the opposite of most T…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 10:57 PM
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What if the shit baby is elected President? Still not alpha by status even though women won't touch him? Seeing as how alpha describes a REPRODUCTIVE strategy, you should already know the answer :) At what level of status is someone alpha vs what level are they not. The minimum is to be successful at securing access to reproduction (sex), I'd think. But you do admit too that men and women have different perceptions of status, even though they're interrelated. Which is irrelevant to whether statu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 10:52 PM
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You're preaching to the choir. As far as I'm concerned, a woman who is not overweight in America is automatically a 6 lol. 5 is average, so.... People just talk endless amounts of shit. Men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 10:49 PM
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Lewis is right. Men talk a lot of shit but look at the real world. 66% of women are overweight or obese....are they all without boyfriends? TRP says they DATE UP. So what gives? The shit men talk must not match the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 09:26 PM
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umm this story actually doesn't say that. It just says that there's a looks THRESHOLD, beyond which a man's personality profile matters. That threshold can be high, it can be low, but it exists. That != the best looking always prevails.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 09:24 PM
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Partially, because status is only one aspect, and men and women have different judges of status. But they still must judge status. Status is still the dispositive factor here, despite what you have just said. It is the only aspect that matters. And accordingly, whatever gains an individual status is what that individual should utilize, which is why the only metric to judge alpha by that is 'objective' is status --- because different 'mindsets and behaviors' are necessary for different individual…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 06:50 PM
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Which is impossible. Which is my point. A man with great behavior and mentality will necessarily end up being liked and having status. Ok, so you agree with me :) Status is the dispositive factor, here, you just believe that great behavior and great mindset will necessarily lead to greater status. Mentality controls behavior which creates status(and success, achievements). You can't have an awesome but complete loser. Makes no sense. Yeah that's why horribly disfigured people get credit for thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 06:25 PM
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Mentality and behavior matter. However, it's about someone's overall makeup. Not just a behavior or two in a vacuum. If a man's only alpha mentality is being confident, and nothing else, he will be beta overall. Sorry buddy, neither of those things matter. Only the results of those things matter --- reread the above hypothetical. If he has GREAT behavior and a GREAT mindset but remains a virgin and no one likes him, he is not an alpha (nor is he a Sigma), therefore behavior and mentality are not…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:59 PM
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Yes, that works to test whether a general principle is sound or not. If mentality mattered at all, this wouldn't happen. And if behavior actually mattered, this wouldn't happen. All that matters is --- does the individual have status? Does he not have status? And of course, relative to who? Sort of a dumb paradigm if you ask me, which is why I think TRP has a hard time applying it correctly (or to its logical endpoints).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:47 PM
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He wouldn't be a Sigma at all under your own definitions of the word because he wouldn't be able to just show up and dominate a group lol. They'd just shit on him and laugh at him and he'd get no chicks and die out alone and not spread his genes. Yet to you, this could still be alpha? The fuck, homie?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:38 PM
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The thought of a nice pair of breasts or a nice ass can elicit arousal in a man even without any idea of who the woman is our even seeing the rest of her body. I'm not like that at all. The whole person is important. Beyond basic health shit: i.e. please no obese, please be in ok shape, please don't be horribly disabled, etc. I'm attracted to women who seem to go with themselves...a high unity between external and internal appearance. A stick thin girl with small boobs and ass can be very attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:04 PM
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Uh if a dude has zero status and remains a virgin throughout his whole life but idk, is 'super confident' you're saying he could be an alpha? seems ridiculous to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 04:59 PM
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Lmfao. relative to who Alpha, used correctly, describes some kind of status. So, you can't just ask us if this individual, in isolation, is an alpha. Relative to who? Relative to the average dude? Way alpha. Relative to a rock star? Way beta. There are no individual traits, just traits that arise upon comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 04:04 PM
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Nope none at all. Feel super lucky for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 10:31 PM
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Ignored, mostly. I'm not sure how much of it was the depression brought on by being fat or reality, though. Dark place, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 01:25 PM
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Yeah. They didn't want much of anything to do with me when I was fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 12:58 PM
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Maybe. People aren't stopping in the streets or anything lol. Definitely not everyone's cup of tea as a non-white guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 11:13 AM
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I don't think so. I am qualified to speak on this because I once was obese and am now fit (can verify with pics if you PM me). When I was obese I was fucking invisible to the opposite sex. In. Vis. I. Ballz. Maybe it's a 'two-fer' thing where, to attract women, you need to be at least two of Good-looking, tall, and fit. I don't know. But it's like living in two completely separate worlds. Not just with how the world reacts to me based on my physical appearance, but also, my behavior is completel…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 03:01 AM
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High School, maybe. But like, even in college you don't know everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 02:40 AM
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I thought that too, but everyone I've talked to on here and elsewhere says it's more like...you kind of see some around for awhile, and then eventually 'it happens.' Your way seems like the usual way 'it's done.'
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 10:30 PM
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Yeah I guess my experience of casual sex is different than most. Like, I don't know anyone for more than about 2-6 hours of face time (or two hangouts) before having sex with them, so... ...idk, maybe that creates weird circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 10:23 PM
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I'm not TRP, tho lmfao, but even I can understand the concept of "here's your needs --- you have to meet them."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 09:19 PM
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Women never understand the drive of testosterone to fuck. It's like trying to get them to be kind during their periods. Once the flowing stops, they can be normal humans again This. I have high T. Like, if I'm not "medicated" I can't function.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 08:58 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? What I mean to say is that the lifestyle that they promote is incompatible with the approach of actively and singlemindedly pursuing a goal I want to get my sexual needs met. I need to have sex at least a few times a week to be 'okay.' I singlemindedly pursue that goal by going out and talking to women. It is easy for someone who is more lazy to achieve since they will just be social and it will happen. https://media.giphy.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/giphy.gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 08:57 PM
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TRP is self defeating because it is fundamentally treating a goalless hedonistic lifestyle as though it is a goal I don't know if I agree with that. TRP purports to a) explain "how womenz werk" b) how to attract and bed women, and c) how to maintain various types of relationships with women. Redpillers would be best suited to attempt to pursue real goals because their devotion is something that is very useful in the world just not directly in the way they advocate one should use that devotion. "…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 03:27 PM
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lol I'm not saying you're not into these people or that you love them less or whatever. But you know, people are different, people have different things about them that you like and dislike and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 05:37 AM
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I'm not saying you're not into average joe. It just seems bizarre that like...if one person has trait x that is objectively better that you wouldn't parse it as 'oh ya Johnny was better looking in the face than Joey here, even tho I wuuuuv Joey so much.' It's possible you don't do that, I'm just expressing skepticism, or maybe the right way to put it is just...incredulity brought on by my own thought processes and not necessarily as a commentary or judgment of you telling the truth or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:49 PM
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https://media.giphy.com/media/1l5NMPQT2pkYM/giphy.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:42 PM
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I can do that without it having anything to do with someone I'm currently dating, and I can do it with total acceptance that it's the past. Lol uhhhhhh, ooooooooky-doky. So if you dated a male model in the past and you dated an average joe in the present, you could think 'wow male model was really good looking' without IN ANY WAY comparing it to average joe's looks? https://media.giphy.com/media/l14qxlCgJ0zUk/giphy.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:39 PM
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I mean, are you a dude? Do you do this with women? When you're very into someone, dating her etc., do you think about how her tits aren't as big as so and so's or the way she laughs isn't as cute as so and so or she somehow doesn't make you feel as magic as so and so? Yeah, sometimes. Seems pretty natural. People are different. It's not that I feel like 'I love her less than x.' It's more like I compare x's smile to y's smile, and there's things I like and don't like about each or maybe they're …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:19 PM
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I really, truly, don't compare my bfs to each other. https://media.giphy.com/media/zYEg3iFhP7Ily/giphy.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:10 PM
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Basically, he's saying that you're Rachel, and that this guy is Paolo, and that your future BF will be Ross and you guys will get into arguments over the animalistic sex you and Paolo used to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:07 PM
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Dude every girl I fuck wants to date nowadays, probably because I'm less of a douche cannon, but holy fuck is it annoying. Or you're just staying in your comfort zone. it means the only thing that matters that she finds me sexually attractive and I don't have to commit. Getting it for free > being the boyfriend with 90% of modern chicks You don't have to be the boyfriend. But when she sees you as boyfriend potential versus not makes a difference....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 10:58 PM
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5 years ago I was obese (32% bf) and depressed about many hard facts of life. Those facts are here in a long story made short. I was a kid who had been picked on and bullied throughout my early life. And I was different in a lot of ways --- I was in gifted education, I was multi-racial, I was short, etc --- which just made it impossible for me to find or make friends. So, when I turned 18 and lost my baby-fat, being the kinda-loner that I was and still am, I just decided that I'd meet women by j…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 04:45 PM
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I wasn't arguing "evolutionary speaking," I was arguing from a woman's perspective, so that's irrelevant. It's relevant because one of the points I'm making is that your standard is so vague so as to render discussion impossible, because it essentially = what you personally think. HOW MANY TIMES do I need to tell you that that's not what they are getting. They are sacrificing sexual attraction, that's literally the whole idea behind AF/BB as pronounced by TRP. You can say it as many times as you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 03:54 PM
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I can parse out what you're saying. The point still stands: you're arguing a "what I personally believe" point. And it's like, okay...well, evolutionarily what you're saying is incorrect. Similarly, hookers would technically be a "successful" sexual strategy for men, but I doubt many men actually want that to be the way they get laid, which is why it would still be safe to say, in context, that from a man's perspective that's not really "successful." That's because the men, in that scenario, we …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 03:43 PM
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Brains. Brains shape a lot of what we believe is beautiful...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 03:24 PM
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Sleep with many women = alpha Sleep with not so many women = beta
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 03:20 PM
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"physical attractiveness is the most important trait in the short-term mating context and, therefore, individuals should use their mate value to buy this trait in their mates." http://interpersona.psychopen.eu/article/view/125/html
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 03:17 PM
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There is no way you're going to convince me that when a terper says "beta bucks" he's not referring to a man who was chosen for resources/comfort at the expense of sexual attraction Well, that's because TRPers don't understand what they are saying. First of all, 'beta'-anything, as a reproductive strategy must be sexually attractive on some level. Second of all, let's just stipulate that TRPers definitely mean some sexual attraction is sacrificed every time. I'm not sure why any sexual attractio…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 03:12 PM
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https://media.giphy.com/media/8ef68WfQPpwVa/giphy.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 11:52 PM
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Dude, that is what AF/BB is -- you settle on attraction to get comfort/resources from your BB. It describes a shift in prioritization, not necessarily a significant sacrifice. What I am saying is that it's not a "successful" sexual strategy from a woman's perspective because she is sacrificing sexual attraction -- that IS how TRP describes AF/BB -- they describe it as settling. I don't know where you're getting this notion that it's anything else. If you think that sacrificing any amount of sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 11:50 PM
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You are right. Beautiful, accomplished, high status women only marry high status alpha males because they couldn't lock down a beta bucks loser instead. You sure do know your stuff! I'm assuming u are a teenager and probably a virgin. Nice attempt at saying a bunch of shit I didn't say as a cover-up for the fact that you didn't understand what I did say and then blaming me for your failure to understand what I said with the most retarded "you fancy cityfolk and yer highfalutin words" insult ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 11:46 PM
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I should have added "for an LTR." Although like I said, to get casual sex, submissiveness is probably neither here nor there. That's 99.999% physical. Okay, well it's a pretty robust finding that men find submissive women more attractive. For whatever reason, you believe that more attractive women are not more attractive in a LTR setting. Submissiveness is only associated with femininity so rigidly within tradcon spheres and TRP. Yeah bro, that's why tons of stories, art, etc. follows those trop…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 11:43 PM
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would mean the ideal outcome that a woman could get. relative to what, exactly? You see, what you fail to apprehend here is that if we were to use the metric of "evolutionary success" we would have a clear standard with which to evaluate "sexual success." You and the other interlocutor have rejected such a thing and incorporated "what I think is ideal" as a standard, which is arbitrary and renders discussion almost impossible. Her ideal outcome would be to lock down the high status alpha male in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 11:32 PM
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If you think settling is "successful" I would disagree. I don't care that it's "natural" according to TRP. No one said anything about "settling." That's just you assuming more stuff. And if you don't care about what's "natural" then you just removed any sort of metric for "successful" beyond your own arbitrary blah blah blah. And of course, you pretty much admit it with "isn't really all that successful to me." Who the shit are you, exactly? Do you have a PhD in this or something? Lol. Um, based…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 10:14 PM
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Disagree on AF/BB being the successful female sexual strategy If women evolved to do it, like TRP says, it's a non-sequitur to claim it's not a "successful female sexual strategy." lmfao. the ideal strategy for women is finding a high beta Based on what? The advice you found up your ass? AF/BB is when they can't achieve this for whatever reason. I suppose you could argue that's still "successful" but from a woman's perspective, having to settle on sexual attraction to get commitment isn't really…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 10:04 PM
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Your OP says submissiveness does not help attract or keep a man. So the assertion to the contrary, by inspection, is definitely relevant. Your argument against is that you watch what [women] do, which is a non-sequitur response to "submissiveness boosts a woman's SMV." Are you arguing that men do not like submissive women, even though submissiveness is a trait associated with femininity as much as dominance is with masculinity? Next, you assert that having a high N-count means that a woman is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 09:48 PM
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Completely untrue. Being submissive can boost a woman's SMV to a man by 1-2 points. As a matter of fact, in the last few weeks I've specifically talked about how some of the most dangerous women in the game --- high N-count variety --- are exactly that: super feminine, submissive, etc. Submissiveness and subterfuge go hand in hand. That's a woman's locus of power: duplicity. Submissiveness without any attention to personal agenda, sure, hurts the individual involved, but being submissive --- at …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 08:52 PM
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No you're not seeing the point. True love is selfless, it entails appreciation and acceptance. In Disney movies, maybe bruv. It does not look at their own feelings or opinions. That is literally all anyone can do. As in men wanting to be truly loved is unmanly? Men having a bitchmade Disney princess concept of love is unmanly, yes. Do you think Conan thinks in this way? Odysseus? Diogenes? Just any great man. Do you think they cling to such cloyingly romantic dumbfuckery? Why is that? Because I …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 06:01 PM
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Assertion in the absence of evidence. There's plenty of reason to think it's fat men, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:48 PM
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90% of the men they asked in that cited study stated that they would like to be more muscular in order to be able to attract more women. In another study it was found that 90% of fat men would like to be thinner in order to be more attractive. So we can certainly say that those things are common sense and that TeRPers generally were just part of the 10% that somehow didn't get that memo yet they act as if they've stumbled upon some hidden secret that the average person doesn't know. No. That jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:48 PM
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Women don't love the things her man does, she loves the way those things make her feel. Okay well if we're going that road, no one can love anyone else, only their own feelings. Cool story, brosef. Seeing as how the cause in fact of the love love feelz are the actions, we probably should focus the inquiry on the actions, rather than moving things up and down the causal chain to irrelevant factors relative to the subject of interest (the man -- he only has control over his actions, not necessaril…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:46 PM
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Sure. The menstrual cycle theory is fucking retarded and has almost zero evidence in support http://universityofsoutherncalifornia.createsend1.com/t/ViewEmail/j/ADD47DFBEA32FEE0 I've seen research that women orgasm more with and have happier mindsets when with a man she perceives as having more control in a relationship. Body symmetry is the only reliable predictor of female orgasm "In the final analysis neither the male’s age, wealth, social skills, physical attractiveness or relationship style…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:45 PM
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Leave. Don't care, I make good money. Don't care for reasons in (2). Make fun of her relentlessly about it. Support her new book club/hobby, get excited to talk about the Schoolmen and the Catholic Church's role in preserving Western Civilization, etc. Help her diet. If she won't diet, leave. Leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:38 PM
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Men loosely agree. For example, most guys will have a general idea of "uggo, plain, cute, sexy/hot." But any attempt to break it down further is a fool's errand.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:26 PM
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That's stupid. You are the things you do. Even your outward appearance is a synopsis of your lifestyle and the choices you make. Some traits, such as your skin color or height or frame size and the like, aren't in your control. So, I believe that 'loving me for me' can refer to those traits that just are not within our power to change. And, after 25 but especially after 30, personality is more or less fixed. So, in that case "love me for me" is more a request that your partner let you be who you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:23 PM
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Well they haven't all been "bad" at it (the two or three egregious examples are just too funny not to share)...I just tend to catch on. There's 'the vibe' and the facsimile of a vibe. Idk, I think the entire production is "needy." Why try to make people fall in love with you in the first place? Who cares. There's just playing your game well (which I can appreciate) and playing it like a loon --- which is annoying. Do you do the heightened smile? Where your eyes pierce and there's a knowing headt…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:14 AM
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Yeah, but I have encountered intentionally manipulative people. Those femmie types we talked about. They do this shit. And it's so brazen. This is just dumb, not manipulative, haha. Dumbly sociopathic, yes. Evil truly is stupid. xD But that was just a kind of example IMO of sociopathy that you said you hadn't encountered in the "wild." And she is being manipulative, but that would take context to explain my theories on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:56 AM
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I disagree, to be honest. I love smart women. I probably value intelligence more highly than anything else in a woman (yes, I have overlooked physical 'flaws' in favor of a smart, interesting woman --- however, a lot of smart women tend to be pretty hot). Education is a good proxy for this, so when someone says they have a master's degree or something, I get a little excited. But a smart hairdresser is as good for me as a smart doctor or vet or whatever. She just has to be smart. And it's not ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 11:02 PM
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a great facial aesthetic, status and endearing personality aside https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yZZsALXOXg j/k yeah I mean, if you're just a good-looking dude...like a top 40 song...a lot of chicks will kinda like you. You're going to get tons of lays and a lot of fwb/fb situations. But your conversion to relationship/bf potential/whatever is going to probably be not so hot (unless you're into lying about your interests/hobbies).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 10:05 PM
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Okay but the thread was 'MOST' attractive, not 'guy I'd fuck.' And the Vin Diesel thing is exception proving the rule so whatever. And I doubt most nerdy chicks would consider him the MOST attractive in that archetype over say, Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Yeah bro, I already talked about this. It's like being a top 40 song on the radio. Yes, if you cover a few bases that are more or less universally attractive: low bodyfat, some muscle mass, hygiene, some attention to style, etc., you're going to do f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:56 PM
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That the cavalry isn't coming. I'm it for me in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:17 PM
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Well have a lot of acquaintances...enough to where you can get invited to house parties or show up stag to social/career-ish functions and not completely flounder. Or just go hit up a bar with the right demographic. Living this sort of life kind of fucks up your psyche. I more or less prefer solitude and am probably happiest when I'm just cruising around in my car listening to music.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:15 PM
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I have never not known an alpha male who got laid a lot without a pack of haters, who had at least a few genuinely good reasons to dislike him. People either hate him, or love to hate him, but there are few neutrals. People really do not understand this. A guy who is attractive to many women is a threat to a lot of guys. You really have to be careful. What I've found is best is to just go to my job, have one or two close friends, and then kind of spend most of my time in solitude. Then when I ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 09:05 PM
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Well I don't believe women really care what you look like so that argument is kind of lost on me. https://media.giphy.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/giphy.gif I would expect the guys with the best game to get laid, not the best-looking. That's kind of the point of why PUA says you should pick up women in clubs. https://media.giphy.com/media/26BRCgL3K4lx1zBCw/giphy.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:39 PM
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People aren't intentionally manipulative in sexual situations, often (except me in my sociopath phase, I have never encountered this in the wild) https://media.giphy.com/media/6Dj7ZWBERpGU0/giphy.gif lol well I am a Cynic (big C, tho)... but uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... Most people don't have enough experience to be intentionally manipulative, so sure. They for sure are manipulative. I've encountered this in the wild enough...but it's infrequent. from a few weeks ago: After the sex "yeah...and my boyfri…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:46 PM
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This girl likes you, though. She doesn't just want to fuck. Come on, no girl who genuinely just wants to fuck is putting up with 5 weeks of radio silence (if he's going to be a fuckbuddy, he'd better be reliable). Why? It's not like they're texting me nonstop or anything. The reactions range from 'whatever' to 'annoyed' to 'excited.' Two out of three lead to sex, so xD I kind of think they like it a little because it's like 'oh you want to keep things casual, I'll keep it real fucken casual, chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:29 PM
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Seems exhausting and unreliable to me. Idk, she's already attracted to me, we have history, and we're already drunk together...can't lose. 60% of the time it works every time. Plus the tension is good from going radio silence, say 5 weeks ago, and then just rolling in like nothing happened. Lmao, who legit says ''We should be friends!'' or ''This is just friends!''. Also those questions = so embarrassing, esp ''Can you stay a little while longer...'' Yeah now imagine they're saying it to you in …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:03 PM
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Men say these things too, ime! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yZZsALXOXg Pencil yourself into my calendar or be replaced. Legit who keeps a fuckbuddy around who goes for the 'when I bump into you' method? If you see each other often enough at social events where alcohol is involved... What does it mean to actively try to get someone to fall for you? If she's saying 'LFBF' probably not her goal, right? Oh please. "We should be friends!" "Can you hold me?" "This is just friends." "Can you stay a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:16 PM
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Because of SIMILARITY. Goddammit, it's so simple. You'd have to figure out what their interests are and then think about a guy who looks like he'd be into that, and then make him attractive. So let's see, they're on reddit, which means they're probably skewing more nerdy/hipster/smart/educated/liberal...okay, well then go look at those guys. I could see how most of them would appeal to women in those demographics. If you polled sorority girls at your local college, you'd get different images. Ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:37 PM
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Like I said, I don't think it's based on ''qualities'' it's based on inexplicable other shit. Like, I don't ''love'' my husband because he is a high status male or w/ever. I love him because he's fucking adorable when he eats dumplings etc. A million little things. Idk, because I'm a man, "inexplicable shit" just doesn't compute for me. Supply/demand makes sense, is rational, and the way you talk about him: "a million little things [other gay stuff females say xD]" suggests rarity to me. But I g…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:29 PM
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But again -- dick is abundant and low value. Pussy isn't (sorry --men just find women more essential than women find men & are more easily swayed by the lure of sex with a partner). And so, you are in a different position to me. You keep saying that, but all dick isn't equally valuable, otherwise I don't think you'd have a husband at all. Supply/demand, all of that. Love. Because the best way to ''experience'' dick is in a committed situation, tbh. You're bringing a man's values to this. Women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:01 PM
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The thing is, if you can attract one high quality man, you can likely attract another. Yeah, but that's not what is said. What is said is that you can do so anytime. Like, I've tagged some bodacious babes in my day but I'm not so unrealistic to say 'yeah, and one just as good as you in about a week will come my way if I try.' Now, given a longer period of time...? Yeah, sure. I mean, that goes against the entire supply/demand aspect of the SMP. If it was in such abundant supply, why would you st…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 03:33 PM
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Yeah bro, working out and getting in shape was invented by the red pill... It is a disgrace to grow old through sheer carelessness before seeing what manner of man you may become by developing your bodily strength and beauty to their highest limit. But you cannot see that, if you are careless; for it will not come of its own accord. Socrates was RED PILL AS FUCK with possibly the first instance of "do you even lift, brah?" in western history. holy fuck how did he take the red pill so early on?!!…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:07 AM
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Talk, then let the conversation drop off at what would be a resasonable end point. If she a) doesn't pick it back up she's def not interested. If she b) picks it up on the same thread, she could be interested but could just be nice. If she c) picks it up by asking questions about me, she's prob interested. So if it's a b) situation, I just let that conversation topic die and see what she does. Usually if they're just being nice they won't really dig too deep about you and so once the excuse to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 10:36 PM
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Yes x one bajillion. This has been confirmed by empirical study. The more you have in common with someone, the more likely you are to go the distance. Being attracted to one another is just the FIRST STEP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 10:17 PM
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Male, no pill. No. Terrible. Probably not because hormones and general stupidity of teenagers. Fuck, teenage me was such a fucking idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 10:15 PM
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Um. Men should always go their own way. After a long bulk, I 'go my own way' during the cut. I divide the year up into hibernation season and party season. And within that, a winding down season and a spring training season.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 10:14 PM
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Not willing but rather, want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 08:56 PM
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Damn right she is. Plus I'm multi-racial too, so...you know, hnnnnnnnnnng Been crushin on her since I was a boyo...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:23 PM
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And the winner is revealed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 04:48 PM
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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--0BXWeLsvwM/TaXV1cXFZFI/AAAAAAAABsg/ZUiBu_h6Q2U/s1600/rashida2.jpg http://www.sagawards.org/files/sagawards/MichelleMonaghan.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ea/5d/0a/ea5d0a75c7cdb4eab4b570f64ed62e56.jpg (pixie lott)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:16 PM
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Yeah, you should, you're missing out on a big chunk of dude life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:12 PM
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Masculinity 101: you bottle up those emotions, boy. Lock that shit up and keep it buried. And no, I'm not kidding. So get put there and handle rejection in Amy way you want outside of whining. Unfair? Sure. O well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 08:16 AM
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I guess if you run in social circles of the elite or whatever....but by definition that's out of the reach of most women, so....seems like the exception proving the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 08:08 AM
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I agree. Well, I don't know about 'rape,' but....at the very least an ill-advised move. The second a chick starts getting all iffy or hesitant or whatever I just pretty much d/c the interaction and take her home or leave or whatever. like, why push through it anyway? Why waste time on someone who's not with it? It's not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 04:42 AM
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No but great minds think of things other than Beyonce song lyrics. Goddammit. Welp, I guess I'll have to have a great golf swing, or something. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 04:30 AM
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if there weren't that special ''love'' thing going on between us, I could definitely nab someone similar to him in a couple of weeks so...you'd fall in love with another guy in a couple of weeks? or find a guy you'd fall in the same level of love with in a couple of weeks? Dick is abundant and low value. Even specific kinds of dick. Top 1% of any two valuable traits is already a 1/10,000 proposition tho...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 03:47 AM
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xD To be fair, I'm the type of person who thinks retro-electro is a "big genre" when it's super fucking niche, so....lulz
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 07:18 PM
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In my experience, as an attractive, fit guy, it's really, really hard to go home with a girl at the end of the night if you're on the prowl at a night club - the guys who get laid are the ones who show up with the girls in the first place https://media.giphy.com/media/kHaO6UoYcoC3K/giphy.gif When I first started this, people were like 'oh bro, as a short guy stay away man..' and what I discovered was 'lol no one is getting laid here.,' outside of dudes who showed up with women. Like, most people…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 06:42 PM
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looking fine as hell when you wake up in the morning is what I see as 'feminine in its nature.'
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 06:28 PM
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I was being ironical but thanks for seeing a wound and graciously (or is that gracelessly?) applying the salt. xD
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 06:22 PM
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dafuq? see, this is why I will forever be confused in the SMP. whatever I think looks good, chicks are like 'meh,' and whatever I think is like 'yck, whatever,' chicks are like 'WHOA YA!' applies to other men, looks I try out on myself, w/e Women, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 06:19 PM
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Natural beauty is just the best. I hate makeup on women and women, IMO, who look a lot better with makeup are just the worst. Nothing worse than waking up the next morning and seeing an entirely different person. And I'd take the 7/10. Women who look good natural tend to have very good, youthful skin, and if they still look that way in their late 20's...idk, I think it shows they've lived a well-balanced life. A lot of women start aging pretty fast if they don't stop with the hard partying and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 05:28 PM
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Mmmhm.... cuts eyes XD
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 01:28 PM
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It's enough time to gauge whether they're interested in getting to know you better, i.e. attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 02:28 AM
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I'd say within 3-5 you can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 01:32 AM
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Not if you read hyperbole. Then it's just an exaggeration of a normal reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 10:36 PM
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The irony of your chosen belief system regarding genetic fitness is that you are the one who deserves to be shot and removed from the pool, boyo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 10:02 PM
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If you believe that lifting is massively valuable in the absence of good genetics. If you believe that women inevitably hit the wall even when they have good genetics and this really damages them. If you believe that you can date successfully as an average looking guy simply by being socially competent, without either sheer good fortune and luck or experiencing massive amounts of rejection... Anytime someone starts ranting about genetics without considering the fact that people are like dogs and…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 09:55 PM
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All of her female roommates smoked hella weed and she immediately started advertising the fact that she fucks a lot of dudes. She also told me about how she can fuck men over with the court system like a little sociopath. I literally said thanks for having me grabbed my shit and left. No way I'm going down that path yeah dude. one of the biggest red flags for me is when a chick starts talking about she does sex like a man or does x and y and z 'like a man.' and the x and y and z all consist of j…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 09:47 PM
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Eh....most of the time girls like that have issues with sex IME. Not all the time, but a good %.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 03:19 PM
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If you linger in them, yup. TRP is way too narrow-minded in thinking that only one type of relationship can emerge from casual sex. Or at least, there's only detailed plans for one type of those relationshps. Where the dude has the bf option and the girl is pretty much waiting on him. That's one scenario. There's also the scenario where she's just cool with being friends and maybe if she feels like some other time you'll fuck again. There's the scenario when it's just a one off and that's that. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 03:18 PM
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People need to stop talking shit with their 'scales.' A female 5 is 20 pounds overweight. That's the average woman. A woman who is not overweight, barring exceptions, is pretty much a 6. You see so many otherwise goodlooking dudes with larger women...like, the competition out there is fierce.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 03:15 PM
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A delusional self-concept, mostly. I just have this inner belief that I'm the shit. Even when I'm depressed or down on myself, just lurking back beyond that is 'nah man, we're the shit, don't worry.' Idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 01:55 AM
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My point is that the guy always needs to lead. If your hot, you'll get IOI's but you'll still need to lead. If you don't do it, it won't happen. But this isn't true. Do I need to give other examples where women have been not only super patient, but also super aggressive? And so a less attractive guy that leads will have more sex than an attractive guy that doesn't If the difference is small enough sure. Here, I'll work with you. If you have a male 6 versus a male 7...the male 6 who goes out of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 09:12 PM
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just cause you use the word "brah" doesn't make you a badass. brah But you needing to comment on my badassery or lack thereof, does, brew. So you had the confidence to strike up a nd hold a conversation with a (presumably) cute girl and not think much of it? Alpha trait I didn't say I lacked alpha traits or that alpha traits weren't attractive, so... Preselection b/c you go to the same school. Idk if I'd actually call that an alpha trait, but it's a part of game. I won't call it an alpha trait f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 08:31 PM
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Yes, it's pretty easy to fathom things that come from circlejerked worldviews...I know. Not all women are the 'PLEASE LEAD ME CAVEMAN' type. You should read about prestige status vs dominance status and these things will make more sense to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 06:39 PM
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ya like I said: context clues obv (not 'awwww you're so cute' more like 'omg you are so cute') Usually it's 'so cute' that is the good one and said in a 'breathless/swoony' manner. So the 'awwe' doesn't work because it's like looking at a puppy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 06:37 PM
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I love how TRP can't fathom shit like this and it has to be 'OH WELL SHE MUST BE UGLY LOL'
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 06:35 PM
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I haven't really made any friends or anything, but it's been fun to just share observations and read other observations from the dating world. I also believe that most dudes who are way into manosphere stuff simply cannot be living the life they prescribe living while also holding their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:41 PM
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ummm....again, people love asserting stuff like this..
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 04:02 PM
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Yeah I get that people enjoy asserting shit like this but beta dudes are getting married and having kids all day errday, so....
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 03:54 PM
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Left-wing market anarchist? I assume that's fine. Chicks seem to dig me being an anarchist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 03:48 PM
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Beta strategy = valid reproductive strategy, but strangely = death sentence. Ok...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 03:34 PM
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she'll lose attraction for him when she walks by him and he doesn't flirt with her. She'll lose attraction when she goes up and starts flirting with him but he doesn't know how to lead. She'll get distracted by the average guy when he walks in on her set an starts making her laugh and leading her away to his group of friends.......game, or "alpha traits", trumps looks This is pure fucking fantasy, brah. There was a girl I on chance talked to in the middle of the student union freshman college ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 03:32 PM
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Even for casual sex, this is a guy that she finds physically attractive AND she can (feel like she can) trust him not to harm her and to be an attentive partner to her needs. Yeah, this is why I feel like guys on TRP don't really go out or get that strange the way they say. She has to trust you. That's why I was saying in the other thread that 'cute' is a good compliment to get. I mean, context clues obv (not 'awwww you're so cute' more like 'omg you are so cute')...because it implies a level of…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 03:29 PM
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https://media.giphy.com/media/1ofR3QioNy264/giphy.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 11:21 PM
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isn't in any way always relevant https://media.giphy.com/media/R49mPxSoT9J4I/giphy.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 10:14 PM
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-Libertarian. ....!!!! -His house and car are messy. I'm not saying it needs to be impeccable, but if there's a thick layer of dust on everything he owns and the floorboard of his car is littered with empty Dr. Pepper bottles... nope. ...!!!!! -I agree with you about no close female friends. ...!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 08:57 PM
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lol different strokes i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 08:35 PM
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It's true you can see someone hotter on the internet, but uh...dat sensation from a woman's touch der, boy. dat cant be had on dat der internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 08:25 PM
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Lol dude.... that stuff doesn't matter. The interest is in the conversation behind the conversation. "Wow, you like stamps, me too! We should collect stamps together sometime!" "Wow, you want to see me naked, I want to see you naked! We should see each other naked some time! And great, we have a great excuse to see each other naked! Oh calloo callay!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 08:20 PM
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Yes well the 'anything' is 'these relationships exist in the real world.' 'These relationships go against hypergamy.' Then you came in and asserted 'NOPE CAN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT HER LOSING ATTRACTION' and your reasoning apparently is 'That's really what RP says.' This misses the point: how did it even happen in the first place if hypergamy is necessary for attraction? Well, allrighty.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 08:14 PM
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Lol your original statement was your own fee fees.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 07:54 PM
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Yes this is great advice. Spot on and how it happens IRL at least IME. Like, I can blow through 30-40 "sets" in one night and two or three bars without anyone thinking I'm trying to pick up anyone. You literally just say 'hi [stupid small talk here]" and their response and vibe says it all. From there you can just d/c talking or pursue it further. That's how you get laid and play the numbers game hardcore. Literally saying 'hi' to 100 women would do more for the average dude than anything in TRP…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 06:49 PM
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Well if the woman is literally better than the man at everything "life" related....how is the relationship hypergamous? The woman has higher status.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 06:46 PM
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Yeah but that's not the question. It's not 'she just wants to bang.' There's one where the woman actively takes care of and nurtures the guy and, for lack of a better term, mommies him. There's the other where the woman is more submissive and is actively looking for the man to do everything for her or take his guidance or whatever...so, for lack of the better term, is 'the kid.'
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 06:28 PM
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Comfort is part of the lizard brain, brah. Comfort is crucial to sexy-time. You don't 'rationalize' comfort. It just is there or it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 05:50 PM
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sorry brah, meant to put: in both scenarios she wants your dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 05:46 PM
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lol it's so true.... fuck TRP/manosphere shit...you need to get laid, brah? take some of papa's medicine and.... https://media.giphy.com/media/PET31XskimwJG/giphy.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 04:56 PM
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Completely disagree. I know from personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 04:32 PM
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seeing as how that's literally how TRPers use the word.....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 03:35 PM
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Good looking, fit, tall. Be 2 and you're a Chad, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 03:35 PM
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And you wouldn't say that all they're doing is following standard etiquette? Have you ever seen someone follow proper etiquette who had bad social skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 10:50 PM
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Lmao. I think you just described a lot of my relationships with men back when I wasn't as carefully kind. Yeah. And I'm normally not a give a shit about that stuff type. They manipulate me into wanting it and thinking it's something worthwhile (consciously or unconsciously idk). Like my logical brain is like 'who fucking cares if this chick loves you, dafuq? you and her could literally GO NOWHERE...this could NEVER BE anything! you should be happy nothing came of this' But...idk...the inner beas…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 10:28 PM
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Of course it's easy to judge in person because you're judging the after effects in real time lol. It's the same thing --- 'oh that didn't go so well for him must be bad social skills.' 'oh that went well, good social skills.' I honestly believe it's following the standard etiquette. Because if you follow the standard etiquette, no one can ever really punish you. That's good social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:43 PM
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Well, the problem is that under this formulation we literally have no way to judge social skills beyond 'did it elicit the desired reaction?' Which seems incorrect. No one bats 1000.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:36 PM
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On the show I get it. He's well-balanced. He's tall, smart, nice, has a good career, and like, I never thought Ross was ugly. I just thought he was the poster boy for average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:35 PM
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You forgot stories that can only be classified as legendarily heroic. ... I got a few :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:11 PM
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Saying someone is angry is a shaming tactic. And it's one that I don't get. Anger is great! It's your body's first call to action. The problem is that people never transmute the anger into anything else. So it just stays as anger, burning and burning in one place, never dispersing to cool off in the form of external pursuits, hobbies, interests, etc. And it just rots the person from the inside out. That's bad. And why is it bad, because it's ineffective. From GGR: "Get mad you sons of bitches, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:10 PM
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Okay but that sounds a lot like the term 'game' in that it means everything and nothing and can only be judged for its after effects rather than predictive in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:05 PM
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Ha, I see what you mean. But I personally follow the Cynic philosophy so believe that most social rules are fucking stupid anyway. So....I probably do look like I'm floundering a lot of the time. ... xD
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:04 PM
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Ah, like the old saying goes...a gentleman is never rude to anyone, unintentionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 08:57 PM
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what is and isn't appropriate in various situations and why That is etiquette.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 08:55 PM
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Well, if by 'know what you're doing' you mean have your own version of etiquette that may or may not depart from SOP...sure. But social skills I thought refers to following generally accepted etiquette. Like if a girl complains about you not getting her dinner so you get her a pizza lunchable --- which are fucking delicious --- that's not normal etiquette and probably would be considered bad social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 08:36 PM
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Idk, being a short guy I have found that "rough around the edges" works best. So technically that's 'bad social skills' but it works for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 08:28 PM
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IME (from my POV receiving these comments) cute is actually one of the best compliments to receive. That's the one that is most likely to result in actually sexing the chick. It means that she's sexually attracted to you but also thinks you seem like a cool guy/good guy. idk, i got called cute the other day while wearing my mickey mouse tank top (fuck off!), so maybe clothes have something to do with it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 08:09 PM
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oh shit I thought I did derp...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 08:09 PM
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For the record, I've turned 20 Welp, you know nothing, Jon Snow. The build-up to all my lays has seemed... 'natural'? https://media.giphy.com/media/5YF9dwGZ29rVe/giphy.gif That's because, as you say, you're "not quite the expert" and have no idea what the fuck is happening. Just as we met both girls threw up huge signs, they would stare/smile at me, compliment me on my physique, touch my arms. In fact, I never really asked them out and instead they 'pushed' me in the right direction. On the othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 07:05 PM
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I still see my post. Weird. Well I mean I have literally been called "cute-handsome nigga..." (and NO it wasn't by a black chick!), so maybe you're on to something...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 06:57 PM
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Dude, you're talking about it in 2017 lol. You need to imagine yourself in 1994.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 06:26 PM
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White feminism is plenty of those things :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 06:17 PM
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Without an LTR. And every time Joey does try for an LTR, it ends badly for him. Rachel just liked him as a Friend. That one chick in the play didn't take him seriously. That roommate chick just didn't work out, I guess. Bad break.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 06:09 PM
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Propaganda doesn't reflect reality....lulz. I will agree that FRIENDS was excellent feminist propaganda, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 06:07 PM
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FUCKING THIS, BRO. A lot of girls I've been with have said something to the effect of 'Oh I always thought Ross was handsome..' WELL AIN'T NO ACCOUNTING FOR TASTE, IS THERE? I don't see it. At all. But then again, I'm a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 06:05 PM
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Ross is the balance of alpha/beta. Joey is too alpha. Chandler is beta. Notice who ends up alone, tho? (Joey the sitcom doesn't count)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 06:03 PM
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An alpha has high SMV to women. So a dude saying 'OMG THAT GUY ISN'T ALPHA LOL CAUSE HE FAILS TO MEET MY DEFINITION OF LEADERSHIP!' is fucking retarded. No one gives a fuck. If women think that dude is sexy AF, then he's alpha. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 06:00 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 05:04 PM
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Demeanor and appearance, generally. Prove them wrong in the sense that I'm not worthy of their love. That's how fucked the mindfuckery is lol. Like, I need their love. Not to give mine, but to take theirs. It's a different attribute each time that, for whatever reason, I convince myself "well if we had this on point, we would have won." As an example, the vibe I got from one was that I wasn't masculine enough. I was kind of fat at the time (I had lost a lot of weight from being obese, though). S…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 04:30 PM
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Ha.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 04:17 AM
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Well, that isn't so. First of all because there is no such thing as a league for women. Women basically only need to not be fat(which is fucking easy) This is some dumb shit, right here. First of all, you contradict yourself and admit women have leagues (the fat ones do). Then you apparently are ignorant of the fact that 66% of American women are fat. Then you apparently are also ignorant of the fact that getting slim is REALLY FUCKING HARD for most people: http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:16 PM
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EXCEPTION THAT PROVES THE RULE DESTROYS EVERYTHING BOOM!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:14 PM
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he Chad standard is a man between the age of 18-25 Make up your mind TRP. Do men peak at 35-40 or do they not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:13 PM
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yeah that's why women all end up with and fuck exactly the same type of guy. wow glad we cleared that up!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:04 PM
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Back yourself up with hard empirical data or please go.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 07:01 PM
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Ah, well...you've made up your mind and now are showing me an online dating paper as if it could refute an empirical analysis of real life couples. Kewl.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:38 PM
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Still doesn't mean that you're better off as a virginal guy. This is one of the cases of "don't listen to what they say, pay attention to what they do". K, well according to empirical research most people end up with people who are like them in most respects, including that one. Sorry, charlie. I'm arguing that what ultimately counts is your competition:target demographic-ratio. Uhh....well then I guess dudes should just partake in activities that only women like, that way the ratio will be low.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:36 PM
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"This is without a doubt the most powerful finding in this area. We are drawn to people who are like us." ...the most powerful law of attraction at the ‘candidate selection’ stage is that we are drawn to people who resemble us." https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/insight-therapy/201412/laws-attraction-how-do-we-select-life-partner It's a repeated robust finding....like, to the point of it being non-controversial at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:30 PM
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Uh, no he fucking doesn't. He's successful at something a wide swath of the populous doesn't value. He's not traditionally good-looking: https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/gettyimages-523443834.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1 He's not charismatic in a way that appeals to wide swaths of people. Art gallery chicks would not like him. He's way too muscular. His looks screams 'NICHE.' A Chad would be a tall, rich, doctor/lawyer, traditional good looks, charismatic in an 'I'm smart' way, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:27 PM
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Ya. Fuck empirical research!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:23 PM
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Not really. Similarity is the number one thing people look for in a partner. Sorry, that's a robust, research-backed finding. And yes, it includes prior sexual experience. Depends on what you're aiming for. If you're aiming for having the highest chance of scoring any random chick you fancy, then broad-based appeal is the way to go. You will sacrifice niche/social depth for breadth --- i.e. many short-term things but not a lot of long-term options. You're just arguing that having a broader niche…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:23 PM
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That's because TRP fails to understand the number one thing about relationships: similarity. Like attracts like. If you want a 10/10 virginal girl, you should strive to adopt the form of a 10/10 virginal guy. The mismatches that occur occur when maybe the virginal girl is looking for a change and Mr. Badboy or whoever is the door to that new experience. But generally, like attracts like. So no, sluts don't win the SMP. People who have broad-based appeal win the SMP (no, a fucking wrestler does n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 05:44 PM
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And a Chad simply has to be there; except for being tall and fit he doesn't need to have any positive qualities. good looks So if he just shows up and is better than 98% of the male populous out the gate? Or in other words...be high quality? So among the really high n-count guys the most common traits are drinking, drug abuse, adrenaline junkies and sometimes deep lingering personality problems that make them want to sleep with hot chicks in order to prove how great they are. ... okay, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 03:36 PM
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They sleep with men for less shallow reasons, but they are very well aware of his SMV. Like, their standard for sex drops a lot, but the love standard in many cases is very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 01:12 AM
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So you've seen or heard of this happening to a lot of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 01:10 AM
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I know why the double standard exists. For a woman to sleep with many men is fairly easy. For a man to sleep with many women it is not as easy. That's the brutal truth of it. So one is just 'you're kind of abusing your power' and the other is 'wow, you really flipped the script kid.' A man being a womanizer is still dinged, just not as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 10:02 PM
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you can fight it all you want, but you still come across as a lonely guy if you go out by yourself most of the time. That's not what I'm fighting. I can be a bit of a loner. I just don't know if the perception of that would prompt such an outpouring of pity. I don't even know if people are paying that kind of attention. A woman going out alone I could (maaaaybe) see getting that kind of reaction, because society responds to women so much differently than men and places more of an expectation on …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:56 PM
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Friend? I don't ask that shit of friends. Lol. But of the girls I've casually been with, there have been some with triple or higher (idk they lose count I know for sure) N-counts. They have the ability to separate good sex from love. Like, the cord between sex and love is completely cut. They're less shallow but at the same time more honest. Like, they have a very good idea of any guy and where he stands or falls in the great SMP. They all have some kind of issue with sex. Either they have self-…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:48 PM
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you didn't put certain useful info in until after prodded for it says this. complains about vagueness in response to specific references no sorry, says inherently vague lol. you're funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:34 PM
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I didn't forget anything. I never even used the term 'I forgot.' The "new information" were things you glossed over or ignored that were previously said. In fact, I directly quoted or referenced those several statements I made prior to you giving your analysis. So once again you distort the facts to make what you've done here "perfectly reasonable."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 07:39 PM
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Now pointing out where it seems like you have definitely ignored something written or made a leap of logic that can described as analysis-without-the-common-sense-part = upset? Not sure what has been vague about what I've written. I've pointed you to specific things I've said that you have ignored. I'm just confused by how your mind works. For example, the lady below gave a nonsexual explanation that is fine because it makes sense and makes use of all the information given. So me and her can hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 06:27 PM
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No pill orientation --- all of them seem pretty inaccurate. 27 I think religion is just any set of behavioral rituals that flow from a set of axioms that are accepted as true without evidence --- in that sense, my religion would be both Cynicism and Anarchism. In the God/Devil sense --- eh....weak atheism aka agnosticism. My definition: 10+ Normal definition: < 1 I have no pill orientation. I try to keep close to the moment and stay inspired, so.....maximum importance. My new thing I'm trying is…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 06:03 PM
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Nowhere did you say it progressed to sex. A girl can be in to someone and still turn them down. lol it is funny you don't realize that. It's funny you don't realize the answer to 'why the fuck would I mention that situation as a positive experience and a point in favor of this being a signal --- a situ where I go for the girl and she's into me and is giving me a host of other signals, but I Barney Fife/Forrest Gump myself out of the bang?' Like, it seems like you are being deliberately obtuse ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 05:57 PM
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Yeah but now we have this interesting gray area of cafes that serve alcohol! And I also forgot to mention that I get a special drink too. It's soda with several different syrup flavors in it and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 04:59 PM
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I know I edited it lol when I realized :D
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 04:53 PM
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Yeah, usually starts the 2nd or 3rd time I go there. Sometimes -- like, 100% of the time when I'm talking to someone else, but much less of the time when I'm off in my own little world on headphones or reading or whatever. No. The bars are usually chains, the cafes are a mix. I like what you said above about the bars not bothering because things like soda are cheap. And maybe with cafes that serve alcohol it's the same way. So I'll just be on the lookout.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 04:48 PM
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No not often, especially as bartenders. Ah, great, an answer to the question. Thanks. As for you fucking one of them, I did not read that in the OP, just a vague mention of "acting on the signals" with no clear mention of whether it worked "I've only acted on the 'is she into me' vibe once, and that was with a whole host of other signals (she was)." Lol.... it wasn't the free drink that gave it away it was "other signals". Indeed, and the entire point of the question was 'hey, can this be includ…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 04:40 PM
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Aww, you explained in a way that might kill the humor. You gotta preserve the inference, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 04:31 PM
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https://38.media.tumblr.com/0eaf69a38d56c116001163902cfbd4ca/tumblr_inline_noxp02o6Sd1rei9lp_500.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 04:30 PM
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Lost count. And who gives a shit. "Appropriate N-Count" for discussion in civilized society where you won't take a ding for women seems like less than 10 and for men...idk, less than 20-30. I'm a professional, and having a high n-count (or probably more accurately, people finding out about it or knowing about it) is definitely frowned upon. Getting with many women in a social circle is definitely frowned upon. It's viewed as low-class, trashy behavior, which is why if you --- for whatever reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 04:27 PM
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Seriously spit out my coffee. So fucking spot on lmfao. "mighty morphin power rangers bullshit..." lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 04:23 PM
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You know what, I'll pay closer attention. Some cafes can also sell alcohol, and maybe that's where the confusion is coming in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 03:49 PM
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You're just bouncing back to the same result and ignoring what I actually write, and this last one was just more of the same. There's a difference between trying to explain and desperately trying to save a sinking ship. I brush off answers that ignore what is written and you've done so several times. Or did you not read where I also fucked one of them too, in the OP? Or did you not read the actual question asked: do women ever do this as an IOI/do they do this often? Notice how you're not even a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 02:09 PM
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I mean I literally drink coffee and soda for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 03:59 AM
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saying you talk to people who want to talk to you is part of the reason I am saying the things I am because that can come across as desperate and lonely, but sitting and waiting for someone to talk to you 100%, also can come as lonely Lol so waiting for someone to talk to you is lonely and talking to people is lonely. Got it....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 03:57 AM
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Once again you ignore me saying I talk to people who want to talk to me (get opened regularly) OR read. Lol.....try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 03:31 AM
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Yeah bro, the one I fucked did it because I seemed so ronerey. People get so weird on this forum lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 03:16 AM
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Why would she think I'm quiet if I'm talking to women. This is the second time you've been desperate to frame the situation in a certain light that you've ignored what was written. Your insights would be sharper if they demonstrated reading comprehension. Later
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 11:04 PM
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Not during the day. And yeah, it's usually best to go to a regular bar alone to talk to new women....for me at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 10:38 PM
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That's not what I said....but w/e
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 10:19 PM
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I'm more just asking if anyone who has worked in the position has done it for this reason or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 07:17 PM
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Yeah, that's why I'm asking if women do this as a signal. We'll see what the consensus is here. I mean, I only ask because I was talking about it the other day (after a convo on here) where I was like 'ya and girls are cool they let you drink for free at places' and the response was much like yours up above...'dafuq? that's not common.' Just curious!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 07:11 PM
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I roll either alone or with one friend max if it's to a bar. If it's to a cafe I just bring a book or something and read for lunch or something, or talk to whoever wants to talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 07:09 PM
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Golden mean theory applies here. Narcissim and psychopathy are to confidence what boldeness and recklessness are to courage. Both miss the mark, but they are far closer to it than timidity or cowardice. So, given the choice between a narcissist and a normal timid guy --- the choice is clear. But the highest preference is still for the normal, well-adjusted, confident guy. That guy is in short supply. Usually snatched off the market pretty quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 07:08 PM
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I have no fucking clue, tbh...which is why I ask lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 07:01 PM
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only way you'll know is by asking honestly I'd prefer my customers didn't ask Most useful advice award winner. J/K. Lol so just treat it like nothing and don't mention it or even consider it. Kewl.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 06:59 PM
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I'm not the DD. I don't say anything about being a DD. This happens at bars and cafes during broad daylight.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 06:58 PM
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I really have no preference because women send all kinds of signals and they're all different :) I just stick with 1. Do I like her, 2. If so, I go for her. The reason why is because some women are just nice and polite generally. Some women are only nice and polite to guys they like. There have been girls who have been aggressive in asking me to hang out and even setting up days to hang out who have completely flaked. There have been girls who I swear didn't even look in my direction or notice m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 10:24 PM
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I don't have a problem with that. There's just no clear-cut consensus, here. Some say yes, some say no. Not sure why you're calling my "social literacy" into question, but hey, this is the internet, insult away! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 10:20 PM
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I'm fairly aggressive NAWALT, so this is just another one of those 'yeah I do' 'nah I don't' threads. Kewl.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 09:46 PM
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The problem is that NAWALT. Some 'platonic' compliments are definitely IOIs. That's why I try to be contextual. If I know a girl well as a friend and she says she likes my shirt --- okay, probably just likes my shirt. If I don't know her at all and she finds something about my outfit to compliment me on, I think the likelihood of her being interested in me and wanting an excuse to talk goes way up. People who just randomly compliment other people just cause are definitely the minority IME. Not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 05:22 PM
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I suppose a holistic analysis is better. Most women aren't forward enough to just give the compliments you're talking about to a guy they barely know. Well, 'nice smile' maybe... In my case, the situation was just me sitting there on one side of the table and this chick sitting on the other side to the front of me on the left. I hadn't said anything to her the entire time and I introduced myself to someone near her, she said she liked my sunglasses. I said thanks and she asked how much and I tol…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 04:56 PM
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...hm...I guess I kind of do lol. I didn't really notice until you just said that, hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 03:23 PM
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They get married earlier and most of those also divorce, so....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 04:24 AM
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Yes, that's one girl. One situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 04:18 AM
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Well seeing as how it wasn't a woman saying it...:)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 03:42 AM
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I don't think it's shitty. It makes it easier to find people who actually like me. Why waste time engaging with someone who doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 03:41 AM
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No, I meant for sure a guy you don't know that well to differentiate from male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 01:00 AM
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Well one of the compliments I listed above was 'you look like [insert sex symbol here]'
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 01:00 AM
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Eh, actually it's probably best if you don't compliment them, because IME a woman complimenting you unprovoked is generally a big IOI. So if people like you start running around complimenting men unseriously, then....well, more confusion will spread in the dating world!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 12:59 AM
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checks post history...laughs...walks off
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 11:55 PM
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I see...so with men you actually do like, you....don't compliment them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 11:24 PM
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I feel like this is satire :D
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 11:21 PM
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So you giving a man a compliment isn't an IOI?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 10:34 PM
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...u w0t m8
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 09:55 PM
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Yeah bro, the average woman is 20-30 pounds overweight (that's a 5 in America) but Emma Watson, movie star is meh like them. Please go on more with 2/10 pointy elbows nonsense...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 09:25 PM
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Or a billion other things....maybe you looked over in their direction and they thought you were looking at them so they looked at you, maybe they looked in your direction and you thought they looked at you so you looked at them and then they looked at you.... This is what I mean lol It could be a billion things so just 1. See chick I like 2. Talk to her seems to be the way to go rather than trying to divine these IOI "stares"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 11:31 PM
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This would imply animals don't do things for power gain then. What motivated humans too before society and language? No, it doesn't imply that at all. And society != civilization, and language did not emerge at the dawn of civilization, so the question is silly. But the motivations were getting basic needs met --- food, water, shelter, sex. In an environment where people move around, no one can own much of anything, so attempting to own more than him or her is almost pointless, which likely expl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 10:28 PM
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They should go out and do the things they built an entire ideology around doing then -- i.e. go get laid with strange women. It just does not work in the way TRP describes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 09:56 PM
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All humans play the power game, they seek more power in their life and for themselves. Game is fundamentally about increasing one's own power. False. Status jokeying and intra-population competition is mostly a post-civilization/agriculture development. So let's qualify --- in societies that rely on status-driven ideologies, humans play the "power" game. And they play the "power" game to the extent they share the society's values, i.e. define success. Men are better at gaining power overtly thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 09:54 PM
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The will to power has almost nothing to do with power IMHO. It's more a desire to confront experience without boundaries or predefinition, which is why Nietzsche's philosophy is a) reactionary and b) artful. He attempted to put into prose what the Cynics practiced in life (obviously he believed the Stoics failed at this task).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 09:46 PM
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I don't wish anything. I don't wish women were more obvious, I just asked if they intentionally tried to make their staring obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 09:38 PM
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Yeah, I just tend to think when women notice men who they find attractive it's more a 'oh that's nice to look at' feeling rather than 'ZOMG EFF ME NOW' feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 09:37 PM
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See, this seems correct to me. Like, 40-50% of the women I eventually get with who 'checked me out,' all I can remember is maybe like a glance in passing or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 08:25 PM
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Look for facial reactions and body language after she looks at you and/or scans you. Sometimes its just subtle facial muscle change indicating positive feelings, sometimes you'll see far more obvious things like a smile, grooming, nervousness. I'm not really looking for advice. I'm more a "if I want it I'll make a run for it" type. It's just interesting how often a woman has been like 'I was checking you out' and in my mind it was a completely "cold approach."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 08:24 PM
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I mean I don't know, this would mean literally every time you catch a girl's eye in the mirror or anywhere they're checking you out...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 06:51 PM
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It's not that obvious to me! Like, it's legitimate hard for me to discern a random 'I came into her field of view' from 'that girl just checked me out.'
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 06:51 PM
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Yes but in my experience the "obviousness" of the IOI varies from woman to woman. Some are pretty brazen about staring, others are pretty subtle, to the point of me being like 'wtf huh?' Just seeing if that's unconscious or conscious, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 06:40 PM
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Nope. She's cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:46 PM
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Blah blah blah exceptions that prove the rule blah blah. this is bad even for trolololing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:35 PM
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lol... http://articles.latimes.com/2014/feb/11/entertainment/la-et-mg-emilia-clarke-most-desirable-women-askmen-20140211 http://www.livescience.com/52471-why-emilia-clarke-is-sexiest-woman.html http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/10/game-of-thrones-star-emilia-clarke-is-the-sexiest-woman-alive http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/g2449/emilia-clarke-sexiest-woman-alive-2015/ (to the tune of "Charge") Derp derp derp DERP derp derp DERP DERP derp DERP DERP DERP...HERPITY DERP-TY DEEEEERP
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:25 PM
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Yeah bro, Emilia Clarke, movie star widely known as the hottest chick on GoT is "a 7 at best." Better a virgin than an obviously overcompensating nimrod. Like, the fact that she's really hot somehow bothers you to the point of being delusional about her sex appeal. hot chick walks in 1: BRO SHE'S FUGLY LOL, YEAH RIGHT, CHECK MY AMUSED MASTERY 2: She's really hot. So? 1: YOU FUCKEN VIRGIN LOLOLOLOLOL! OMG! LOLOLOL! GET THOSE EYES CHECKED! I'm sure your discourse on cooties is lit af, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:53 PM
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https://media.giphy.com/media/l0NwPZ027mabR6Tg4/giphy.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:45 PM
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Frankly, you are most likely lying :) But sure bro
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:28 PM
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Fuck no. She's confuses racist with racy, gross with good time, and crassiness with classiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 04:10 AM
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Yeah I'm agreeing with you :D
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 11:55 PM
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They were observing. Observing what woman around them actually do and not what they are saying. Thats how TRP was actually created. Like set of observations. They were outsiders looking in, which has a tendency to warp one's perception. The guy who is fit will attract more girls than guy who has dad bod. Period. Yes, but you just don't get it. A top 40 song will "attract" more listeners than a random indie band. However, who will your random particular non-basic girl like more? Top 40 band or th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 11:41 PM
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She's not top 20% lmfao. She's like top .1% wtf are you guys smoking jesus christ. .1% dating top 20% alone destroys a lot of this...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 11:39 PM
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Hero post. Like...the best way for a TRPer to find out that TRP is mostly bullshit is to go out and get laid with strange women :) It just doesn't even work like that. A lot of the time TRPers imagine "Chad" stealing their girl or bogarting their plate. Go meet them, go look at them! They look nothing like Chad. Instead, you'll just be like '....huh? THAT guy?' Probably because girls like different things. A girl may dig the Top 40 hits, but she looooooves whatever weirdo indie band. And so it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 11:37 PM
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When TRP is "beaten" by your convincing arguments, your clever analogies, your most incisive mockery, the final product is a stronger, longer-lasting ideology Ya, like flat-eartherism. https://media.giphy.com/media/MLi42SVDV49kQ/giphy.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 11:31 PM
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When a woman spends a long time on the carousel, fucking hot guys she likes fucking, she gives those hot guys her best. She serves them six-course gourmet meals of sex. Then when she marries, she gives her husband leftover table scraps. This kind of shit is spoken by someone who hasn't been the "sexy" guy. Take a listen to "The Hills" by the Weekend or something to get an idea about the reality behind the "glamour." It's true...with regard to casual sex (at least my def, where you really don't k…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 07:19 PM
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Anyone who is having casual sex with regularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 12:46 AM
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Cute = I could handle that and I am attracted Hot = Not sure if I could handle that and I am very attracted Hot chicks require A-game usually. And guys are lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 12:45 AM
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Bwahahaha. They're still AWALT and Immaturity is still utilized. Sounds like you haven't run across one yet.... Then what separates her from the good girls that also do those things? Edge. A good girl likely will still need protecting when the going gets rough. Conversely, she will probably be very good at more nurturing type activities. A bad bitch is on the frontline right there with you. Conversely, you and her will probably have to work on more nurturing type activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 12:34 AM
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Ain't nothing wrong with a bad bitch. A bad bitch is like...a real woman. She owns herself and her choices. To then argue that there is nothing wrong or unhealthy about being a bad bitch or slut, that they are equally desired for relationships or even more desired as some argue, especially by high value men, is utterly absurd. Have you even run across a "bad bitch?" It's not just 'she's a slut' or whatever. It's a woman who can add a lot of value to your life and get shit done. Typically very sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 10:44 PM
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A high value man isn't the same as a man that a) she's going to fuck, b) she's going to marry/date. It's just a man who is broadly attractive. Think like a top 40 song. Everyone kind of likes most top 40 hits. That's what I get from the term 'high value man.' What makes him into a high value man who gets to either a) or b) depends on her personal values/culture/shared interests and how he treats her. Belee it or not you can be "objectively high value" and bomb with women by being an arrogant ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 10:35 PM
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She's not cultivating the relationship. She's not texting him or going to lunch with him Ummm.... I understand that NAWALT but this behavior definitely happens (ask me how I know). If this is a genuine fear of yours, only date unattractive people It's not a fear, it's just a question based off of real life observable behavior that seemed to find support in a fairly reputable survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:55 PM
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Well, maybe not all women do this --- consciously or unconsciously --- and maybe that's the sample this thread has drawn. But the strength your disbelief in the ability of a woman to explain anything she does is noted. I don't share it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 04:25 PM
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They don't know, it just happens, and I'm not using a euphemism. Well, I tend to believe that women can explain their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 04:20 PM
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But I know a lot of high high N count guys who also are really weird about high N count women...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 04:17 PM
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Yes, I can agree to this. This has been a recent phenomenon in my life, where like...EXACTLY what you describe happens. The chick is super aggressive and does me favors, is sure to give me the (unsolicited) deets regarding her relationship, and then sure enough, one of those days it pans out (maybe they fought and the fight lasted for more than a day who knows) and 'bam' it just happens. ... and this shit has been happening during my 'taking a break from the game ya'll' phase. it's too crazy out…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 04:14 PM
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Okay, it's not an active thing, but is it a thing? And the question more relates to men outside of her SO who she finds attractive (or maybe thinks gee what a swell guy!)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 04:10 PM
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In the OP I asked if it was an unconscious thing :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 03:31 PM
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I was realizing this....thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 03:29 PM
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God like facial aesthetics Uhhhh http://az616578.vo.msecnd.net/files/2016/09/01/6360830115256607581237776288_Nick-viall-1.jpg no... like. not ugly, but you said "god-like." So something tells me to look no further than 'The Bachelor', to find a real life, televised example of Chad Thundercock. https://media.giphy.com/media/Ni4cpi0uUkd6U/giphy.gif lmfao .... WOW. IS THIS SERIOUS? IS THIS REAL LIFE? You are WATCHING A TV PROGRAM AND LITERALLY BUYING INTO A FANTASY BEING SOLD TO YOU.... TRP...son, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 03:17 AM
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Lol completely disagree. People are more or less the sum total of whoever they hang around. So let's say young woman runs with young man's clique of 'badass skater dudes.' She'll probably come off like a badass little skater girl. They get married. Fast forward 12 years. She went to school, got her degree, now hangs around youngish proffessionals, hangs out at her office with her co-workers. He still hangs out with his skater bois. She's likely a totally different person and likely will be leavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 03:43 PM
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Who gives a shit? If she cheats, leave. As with most things, it comes down to balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 11:00 PM
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I feel attractive right now at 27. And I could see it just getting better and better until I'm around 35 or so. There are always social circles to get into that have young women in them. And if your lifestyle is one of quality, the young women who run in those circles will also be of quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 09:12 PM
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2-3 weeks, 27/M
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 05:15 PM
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... lol 'I'm just so awesome and irresistible that I can't just be friends with women --- they all want a piece!' trolololol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 05:14 PM
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Practice going into groups that do not share your values and refusing to conform to those values should do it. For ex, a star trek geek joining a frattish circle and never backing off of how awesome star trek is no matter how much teasing he receives
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 08:59 AM
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Being yourself is expressing your interests and identity in every interaction...calibrated for social appropriateness but never altered to better fit in. To be yourself you must first find yourself. ... You don't do it sitting at home playing videogames, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 04:21 AM
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Maybe you have different standards than them... Honestly, past about a 7 or 8 it's mostly subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 06:25 PM
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A) applies to size queens as well
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 02:08 AM
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Matt Forney comes to mind....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 08:25 PM
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Yes, I understand. But most women IME who call themselves that are just bossy, mean, and dependent to their partners, as in...not what they say they are. Just like most women who say they are 'sassy' or 'sarcastic' are usually just unfunny and mean most of the time. Being the real deal is just a rare thing. For men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 06:27 PM
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What the fuck did I just read.... Some of these mindsets are legit like "huh?" Sometimes women who describe themselves as 'strong independent women' are just sort of bossy and mean and very much dependent. But a true blue independent woman is rare --- and a good thing! Love 'em! They are in control of their feelings, they act on their feelings, they don't bullshit you, there's no drama, and they can separate sex from love from friendship. You find one of those and gain their trust, you likely wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 06:01 PM
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For all the whining about Chad, TRPers are really short on just improving themselves. They talk a good game about it, but few of them put in any work to get ripped or lift or develop actual hobbies, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 05:57 PM
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Um. You get better at something by gaining experience. With regard to sex, you get better at figuring out generally what guys like, probably by having sex with a lot of men. IDK, I have become better at sex by having sex with different women...not sure why the same wouldn't apply to women :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 05:56 PM
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Performers find an audience, actually :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 01:52 AM
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Women who appeal to you and the people you know.... Men who appeal to women you know or are around...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 01:35 AM
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It's an empirically supported and replicated finding.... And whether she is attractive or no what she wants most is someone like her: including in the physical dimension. Pretty simple stuff. As for why, IDK. That's just my experience as a bar star and supported by research.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 12:59 AM
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Yes I understand you can assert things without any evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 12:57 AM
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How does attraction make someone more or less similar to someone. I don't follow. It seems like similarity is a baseline, attractiveness is a bonus. Is the number 6 the same as the number 7? Some would say 7 is more dissimilar to 6 than 6.2 is, or even, hey, 6 itself. That's how attraction "makes someone more or less similar to someone." The similarity includes physical attractiveness as well :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 12:16 AM
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Yes. Facts are often very surprising :D
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 11:55 PM
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How can this be universally appealing if it's based on interests and backstory which are not universal? Girls like different things. That's the universal. Yes being a renaissance man is a giant advantage, let's you have more fun in more ways with more people. Well, yeah...it lets you share more similarities with more people. Both together is gold. Preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 11:54 PM
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Oh look ma, another assertion in absence of evidence. It's hard to out compete someone who is very similar to someone else, because a) similarity is the number one thing others look for in a partner per the research...so a more attractive/desirable guy actually may not be in the running, because... ...drumroll... that attraction makes him more dissimilar to the woman. Strange but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 11:53 PM
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The 18-24 demographic is 27%. http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/02/11/15-percent-of-american-adults-have-used-online-dating-sites-or-mobile-dating-apps/ So he's still WAY WAY WRONG as per freaking usual with these delusional claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 11:12 PM
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No It's VERY FREAKING SIMPLE Girls want a guy who a) shares their interests and general life backstory b) is healthy and c) has normal social skills. That's it. That's all. It's pretty straight-forward stuff. If you want to go out and be a bar star, you're best served by becoming a renaissance man --- developing many varied interests to a high degree of knowledge and proficiency has helped me in that game far more than...well, anything in the manosphere and really anything else generally, with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 11:09 PM
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Why is it so goddamn hard to understand there is no man or even type of man that can walk into any room and pick up any girl. lol have no clue why it can't sink in
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 11:08 PM
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Imaqtpie and doublelift have attractive gamer gf's, and they arent anything special to look at. They are also rated top 10 in the whole NA division and make tons of money streaming and playing competitively to make up for it. Cool so you agree with me. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 11:05 PM
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So then you aren't disagreeing with me, you're just tossing in another qualifier. For example, let's say status can make up for about 2 points of looks in your world. Then it IS true, that WoW gamer nerd in his WoW gamer circle goes from a 4 to a 6 and that any girl who is in the 6 league will be his to pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 10:12 PM
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What I was saying is the gamer girls are still most likely going to the most attractive looking guy in whatever group they are in Oh cool, so chicks dig status except when they don't. Another air-tight TRP "argument."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 10:01 PM
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Hard fact: people look most for similarity in a partner Hard fact: tons of girl gamers Proposition that TRPers take as true: women love social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 09:07 PM
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Dude I cite facts to back myself up and all you do is spit DERP back at me. Stop restating your priors...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 08:56 PM
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Lol I get laid and I keep trying to tell you TRP dodos what works and none of you listen lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 08:54 PM
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The obvious fact of his good looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 08:03 PM
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No one likes him because he's a convict, dingus.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 07:14 PM
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Thanks :D
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:45 PM
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It's like you can't read or something. You get good at the skill and gain the status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:34 PM
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No sweat just get them out later
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:32 PM
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PLEASE CITE FACTS TO BACK YOURSELF UP :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:19 PM
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Yes, you have watched a lot of TV and movies. Good for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:18 PM
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Most women go to clubs, bars, and have a profile online lol Only 11% of Americans have ever used online dating. Only 56% of Americans have had a drink in the last month. How many things are you going to assert without backing them up? We understand the TRP worldview re: women, but sorry to say --- it's mostly wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:17 PM
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not really. If a player is a guy who has really found his niche, then he has just found a way to really BE HIMSELF, completely. A normal BP guy could have the same success if he really followed through on what makes him a special snowflake and built a life centered around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:09 PM
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THANK YOU. TRPers are so silly when it comes to this stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:08 PM
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Provide some facts to back up these assertions, some time :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:07 PM
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Yes, you have asserted many things, but the most powerful determinant of choosing a partner is similarity based on empirical research. there arent many gamer girls out there Wrong. Surveys have them at around half of all gamers. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/0c1d586e7b3cb807d7ad97c3914c113a.png For the ones that are, the competition is fierce. Yeah bro, that 1:1 ratio is killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:04 PM
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Yes, I understand TRPers like to assert things. Please explain why the conclusion would not follow, given the TRPer premise and what I wrote above.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:01 PM
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Being the WoW "nerd" who is best at WoW in a group of WoW nerds = leader/king of group = status. "lol" indeed :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 04:40 PM
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TRP say: Women love love love social status. therefore In a social circle made up of WoW players, the best Wow player in said social circle will have the highest status or at least very high status therefore when a girl joins said social circle (yes girl gamers exist --- hot ones too!), she should like the hypothetical individual in question, according to TRP. But you say "this should be placed into the All-Time Depository of Shitty BP Advice." Probably because a) you don't get logic or b) you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 04:34 PM
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The mere fact that there exist men who are able to charm almost any girl into if not immediately fucking Wrong. 99% of players have selected or created a social circle that places high value on traits the players themselves excel in. For example, the star athlete :) It's never "almost any" girl. Girls like different things, dude Here, try an experiment. Become really good at X. Now, make a social circle where people highly value X (X could be WoW playing!). Now, watch what happens when girls joi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 03:23 PM
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Now, a bunch of dilettante Google experts often link some articles about how “people lie in sex surveys. ... LMAO. Preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 04:30 AM
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Lol that feel when it goes from in the bag to you're going home alone tonight.... Good times XD
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 03:38 AM
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I don't think so. My personality has definitely turned off several women...:)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 03:22 AM
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More or less, yes. I believe it's accurate because most men seem to misjudge the proclivities of women by basing their generalization on a self-selected sample (social circle, etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 12:57 AM
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Young women are more easily impressed than older women. There's a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 12:34 AM
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You never even got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 01:44 PM
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No dude. The rule = people who are similar actually connect and escalate to a physical relationship (or at least actually meet lol). People who talk a bit and never get anywhere? Hey...lol you win :) Your last heuristic is silly. The simple one that fits all the data is most people are not like one another and most people take awhile to find someone similar. Lifetime sex partner counts are low for a reason, champ.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 11:47 AM
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And when who meet up with matches the "realistic version....?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 11:03 AM
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"why?" "... ... brooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....sit down, let me tell you some things..." xD
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 07:18 AM
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Yeah, think of it this way.... the kind of guy who appeals to a wide swath of women is more or less a lot like a song that gets played on the radio. How do you feel about Top 40 hits? Formulaic, boring. Similarly, to be attractive is pretty fucking simple: be fit, wear nice or cool clothes, don't be a spazz (this is like basic social skills not high level/high flying 'game'). Congrats, you'll probably get lucky a lot (esp if you stay in your league --- most guys want to jump up in leagues withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 06:57 AM
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Yeah...... Guys definitely "warn" one another. "She's cool bro, but don't be her boyfriend"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 02:31 AM
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Yes, the vast majority of people aren't similar to one another. Who knew? Not you, apparently. The rest is you speculating in the absence of evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 01:03 AM
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But you're ignoring all the people who aren't ending up together. You mean the not couples? No one is talking about "ending up" anywhere. We're talking about who actually meets up and does anything in real life. And on that score (the one that counts) --- people who are more or less similar end up doing anything in real life. Women have a massive advantage and are largely in control of their own destiny and men just aren't. First, you must have ignored the part (that I quoted) which said that me…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 12:13 AM
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"Directly contradict" huh... "For both male and female senders, the evidence lies between the aim-highest and tempered hypotheses" "Our third hypothesis, derived from social exchange theory, related to homophily as a process. We found support for the idea that the population of online couples becomes more homophilous with repeated message exchanges. For both message senders and receivers, the attractiveness gap narrows with increasing message exchanges, particularly at the point of first recipro…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:15 PM
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Except, it isn't. Women rating 80% of below average is not saying that women are having sex with only 20% of men. In fact, the same study showed that women were MORE REALISTIC than men when it came time to actually message and interact with a potential partner. " On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve, which is a healthier pattern than guys’ pursuing the all-but-unattainable. " https://theblog.okcupid.com/your-lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:00 PM
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I'd say the most important one is face, followed closely by low bodyfat/ripped OR tall height ("and" applies, as well). The adage = good-looking, muscular/ripped, tall...be two. Can consistently (at least once a month or two) score casual sex from non-fat women (so >5 on the mythical scale). There are some men who are more attractive to the opposite sex, broadly, than other men, so why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 04:56 PM
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By mischaracterizing and misquoting me, you just took us there. Congrats. The fact of the matter is that the reasoning process we are using is inductive. X fact (BMI) makes healthy weight more or less likely, other X facts (muscularity, assumed attractiveness) can also be true while the conclusion (healthy weight) can be false (fat and attractive and muscular). This necessarily means that we are engaged in an inductive reasoning process. So....yeah, sticking to my guns hoss: by arguing nothing h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 04:42 PM
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To the average woman, a coke dealer and a very handsome Green Peace executive are equally desirable and to be deferred to This is so wrong that...lol....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:37 AM
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Lol every fact we have available makes the conclusion more or less likely (BMI > 25 makes it more likely that the individual in question is overweight, the fact that medical professionals use BMI to assess this makes it more likely that the individual in question is overweight), but it does not mean that the conclusion must necessarily follow. That is why we are engaged in inductive reasoning. So by arguing nothing here "necessitates" induction you (further) reveal that you don't know what you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:13 AM
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How does he get laid? Is it casual sex? Is it after promising commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 05:41 AM
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a) dick size is greatly exaggerated --- the bigger you are, the bigger she thinks you are (ask me how I know) b) if you're still in the phase of life where you believe dick size controls sexual pleasure, you need to get more experience and mature more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 02:46 AM
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Hypergamous women is a reality created by the environmental conditions necessary for civilization. Do you understand that this is a different claim from "hypergamy is the result of evolution?" Of course not. You're not even wrong :) Here's a cite for ya, champ: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 02:42 AM
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Lol wtf.... I'm apparently super rare (even when I include all heights in my cohort). Well, maybe this explains why I get laid...?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 02:37 AM
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The guy created a top level post as an insult to me....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 01:21 AM
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It isn't linked because I'm not going to play titty tat grabass with you when you don't even have a basic foundation. If you want to learn something, go do it. Google is right there! Or remain wrong. IDGAF my bro. PS referring to the wiki entry is technically a citation. Gosh you TRP folks are disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 01:18 AM
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Go read the wiki on hunter gatherers :) You don't even have an introductory grasp on the subject matter, so get up to speed and then we can talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 12:08 AM
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Why do squares not fit into round holes? Or in other words, good job with that exception which proves the rule, boi.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 12:07 AM
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Lol now you're denying reality. You wouldn't know a logical fallacy from your own ass which is surprising, given how much you've been talking out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 12:05 AM
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Ah a book written by racists and which isn't subject to peer review. Well, I'm convinced --- haha just kidding, but I'm definitely not surprised that you'd pull out this nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 09:50 PM
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Somebody doesn't realize that being called out on being dumb != opposing side being offended. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 09:49 PM
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Because you aren't saying anything, you're just desperately assuming everything but the simplest explanation. Let's see, do fat people like other fat people because they like people similar to themselves, one of the most replicated findings of empirical research? Or is it that they end up with fat people but don't really like them at all and don't even prefer to be with them, contra the research? Gee...worst case is flat out ignoring empirical research, best case is running afoul of Ocean's razo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 08:48 PM
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Except we know reproduction doesn't work like that in hunter gatherer tribes. Except we know and you agree that you only provided evidence going back around 8K years....around the dawn of civilization. So you haven't provided much of anything but support for the notion that reproduction dynamics shifted with civilization. Not anything about human evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 07:11 PM
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It is an assumption. And if you notice, most of the "weighing in" is just assertion :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 06:01 PM
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People prefer people who are like themselves above all else :) Most women in the U.S. are fat, therefore it's not so unreasonable to assume they may in reality prefer men who more or less resemble them in that domain. "This is without a doubt the most powerful finding in this area. We are drawn to people who are like us." https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/insight-therapy/201412/laws-attraction-how-do-we-select-life-partner https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-the-name-love/200902/does-bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 06:00 PM
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No, unless you actually believe social science is a deductive reasoning process we are necessarily engaged in inductive reasoning. Once again, you fail to apprehend the meaning of the word arbitrary. And you are assuming it, you're just too stupid to understand that such an assumption is necessary in the first place to argue with any conviction in the realm of rationality (note: not compelling or likely , just not looney toons territory) that we have so much more information about these men than…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 04:36 PM
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No not exactly. The environment created by civilization created the lopsided differential in reproduction... ...which means that it does not represent a natural state of affairs, nor has enough time passed for it to become as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 04:26 PM
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Appeal to authority is legitimate within the context of inductive reasoning, which we are engaged in. You also don't know what the word arbitrary means. Hint: it's not using a metric in the same way experts in the field do. The impasse is that you don't understand how to reason probabilistically and need to assume a conclusion (fat men are less attractive than not fat men) to even make this warped characterization of using BMI as it is normally used as somehow "arbitrary" (quotes for your defini…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 03:10 PM
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So much this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 03:05 PM
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That genetic history is only relevant during the time since civilization started, i.e. 10K years ago. Meaningful evolution hasn't taken place since then.... This is kind of silliness I'm talking about...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 03:04 PM
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No not really. Evo psych itself just barely slides over the "science, I guess" line. Right now there is almost no way to disentangle the effect of modern culture on mating preferences. Nor have any genes relevant to the specific behaviors (or most any behavior) been found.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:45 PM
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I used the right word. You see, we don't know anything else about these men but their BMI. BMI is used to assess healthy weight by medical professionals. Therefore by induction without any other info about these men and only knowing BMI, the correct inference by probability is on the health/not health weight dial. Keep digging the hole, hoss. own arbitrary interpretation of the BMI data, Also screams sore loser. It isn't arbitrary at all. Lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:07 PM
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Except it doesn't because BMI in the absence of other information supports my position and not yours. Lose with grace, already
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 10:41 AM
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Yes I understand it does not support your position. Tough break, pal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:17 AM
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That is your assumption, where is the evidence to support this claim? "This is without a doubt the most powerful finding in this area. We are drawn to people who are like us." https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/insight-therapy/201412/laws-attraction-how-do-we-select-life-partner GG bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 12:34 AM
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Your objections are expected and the answer is ---> maybe, but you're just speculating to save your assumptions. Reasons to doubt what you say ---> women who were overweight also reported more sexual partners. Now you could double up on the speculation to say 'fat chix are sloots!' 'but fat dudes are actually buff chads!' Or you could say 'hey, maybe the majority of people are fat in the U.S. (fact), meaning that most people are probably okay (and maybe even prefer) people who more or less are n…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 12:12 AM
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http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2015/11/19/hookinguprealities/do-tall-men-have-more-sex-partners/ If you're more curious, just click through to the actual study
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 11:47 PM
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Depends on the girl :) Most women are fat and indeed many prefer a tubbier dude Or did you not bother to read the study showing that men across all BMI ranges had a similar amount of sex partners? Same thing for height, too... Once again it's mostly about the crowd you're in and its values
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 07:47 AM
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Lol then yeah they all like different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 01:54 AM
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First of all, we need to explicate a few things. What do you mean by "like?" Like for casual sex i.e. raw primal attraction? Like for relationships i.e. attraction + true friendship + LTR potential? Second of all, beyond "women like men" I don't think there are majority preferences. It mostly comes down to what culture she runs in and what she grew up with IME. It really is sort of a case by case thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 10:42 PM
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I agree that men and women are closer to one another with regard to how attractive they find physical traits than either side would care to admit. Moreover, men value personality and other traits more highly than they would care to admit, as well. The problem with 'game' is that TRP defines everything as 'game.' What you wear is 'game.' How you move is 'game.' If everything is game then nothing is game. I define game as the ability to escalate or "pull the trigger." Using that definition, I comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 10:24 PM
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Telling people to think for themselves is dangerous stuff round these parts...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 10:21 PM
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It isn't toxic advice at all. It's the truth. Some women like certain things and other women like other things. Some women like guys who rock flat bills, other women like guys in uniform. If you want to be the type of guy who can appeal to many women...here's a thought: get to know whichever woman you're trying to appeal to and figure out what she likes. It's not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 10:20 PM
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Studies have been done. Dominance and prestige are both proven ways to increase one's social status. If women respond positively to an increase in status, then they respond to successful dominant behavior positively.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:26 PM
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I don't understand why a woman (like a man) can't just have a time period where she's having 'fun' and then when that phase is over she says 'ok, now I'm going to stick with someone I like and look more closely at evaluating my partners.' The guy she ends up with is probably NOT low value. He's quite likely to be very HIGH value. Just like when men settle down. For some reason to TRPers this notion is impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 12:07 AM
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Mansplaining is the sexism equivalent to white people telling black people that they're being 'irrational' for feeling oppressed or micro-aggressed, etc. It's specifically a man telling a woman about her experience. Misogynistic? Not necessarily. You don't have to hate someone to treat them as though they are inferior :D
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 06:23 PM
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SMV: 70% looks/ 25% personality/ 5% status RMV: 40% looks/ 40% personality/ 20% status Male, 27, No pillz, Single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 06:13 PM
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No, I didn't. I don't take issue only with the conclusions :) The 'theorizing' is also very stupid, for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 05:34 AM
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AF/BB is not wrong lol yeah it fucking is if it were true. Are things like AF/BB and "bio-truths" wrong? Not necessarily. In the "is there legit scientific evidence supporting this" sense of right and wrong, yes, necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 01:12 AM
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Going to college and encountering any sort of scientific research should do it. http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2014/03/18/politics-and-feminism/busting-the-red-pill-myth-of-the-feral-ovulating-female/ There is almost ZERO SOLID EVIDENCE OF THIS RETARDED TRP THEORY. So no, TRP does not have "some really good articles as well as using scientific research." It's just pseudoscience pushing sexism and sometimes racism, for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 07:13 PM
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Ironically, to correctly perceive what women mean versus what they say which is what makes their advice good (you can understand the meaning) --- you have to be pretty decent with women :D
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 07:08 PM
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I know that the whole point of having game is so you can seduce women who aren't initially attracted to you lol no. This doesn't happen. Those women already want to fuck you based on your looks alone. Is it possible to still fuck up with those women? That's not how it works. You shouldn't think of attraction as like, 'omg i want to fuck that guy.' Think of it as 'hey, I'd like to get to know this person, something about them interests me.' That something could be looks, status, etc. Something, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 07:06 PM
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Women love male attention. Even to say 'OMG THIS DUDE WOULDN'T LEAVE ME ALONE OMMMMG' is a fav pasttime.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 02:23 AM
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LOL duh OF COURSE. think, mcfly!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 02:22 AM
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Most men are very much interested in causal sex, but that doesn't mean most of them are going to get it because women are only attracted to the highest SMV for them to be down for casual sex. See, this is my viewpoint too, even though I'm not TRP. You really have to, for lack of a better term, "step hot" for a girl to be down to give you a go at that sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/17 02:21 AM
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Ok that was funny
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 09:30 PM
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No need to apologize because you indeed have conceded that this is about a personal difference...unless you are now society's arbiter of politeness, in which case I need your badge number and teacup. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 08:05 PM
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Not what I said, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 07:59 PM
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No I didn't I said the same thing: I vehemently disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 07:57 PM
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No you left an inference in your last and several others. My smileys are genuine...like it just seems like a matter of different preferences and you want to try to make it more than that. What else can be done beyond :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 07:56 PM
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Dude thank you lol. People don't get it. Getting an abundance of women in my life has revealed these realities to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 05:12 PM
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Yes it's about insecurity. I mean IDK, if a woman has had only "megachads," that must mean that there's something very special about you though. I think guys fuck themselves up by just convincing themselves that they have nothing to offer....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 05:11 PM
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Lol and I don't agree. If you don't think the visuals of a hot woman do more for your arousal in the moment....a lot more...all other things being equal, then hey man, good on ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 05:06 PM
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Yes that's correct :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 04:54 PM
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I didn't say it was really hard. Nice job utilizing a strawman in an attempt to passive aggro some more though. And yeah this is about personal compatibility....that's what your whole CMV tangent is about. You personally don't like things I do :) cool beans
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 04:52 PM
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Lol but that wasn't the question. The fact that you need to elevate the 6 and downgrade the 9 to make the hypothetical at all tells us all we need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 03:30 PM
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Lol just sounds like we're not a match.com. different strokes :D
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 07:09 AM
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Yeah sure, but top-tier game is a) rare and b) out of the reach of most guys. Remember, most if not all naturals already have some game, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 12:51 AM
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Since the issue is all about what is happening in your brain, then even just imagining you are having sex with a 9 while actually having sex with a 6 is better than actually having sex with a 9 while thinking about a 6. That doesn't follow unless one's imagination is as good as reality, which we both know it isn't, so... But yes, when VR tech that PERFECTLY mimics reality exists...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 12:07 AM
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The main arousal organ = the brain. That's what it has to do with sex. And I vehemently disagree about beauty and sex. World of difference between a frumpy 6 riding you and a 9 goddess doing the same, my bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 11:45 PM
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Believe it or not, but I've reached a certain level of abundance in my life, and yes this is true. I value intelligence/smarts above everything else in a woman. Smart women really really get me going. Super bonus points if she's smart and has a unique point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 11:16 PM
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Okay, but the problem isn't the number of partners. That's what most people fail to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 11:06 PM
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I tell them at the beginning. Some people actually have careers and lives that are busy. The moves on the internet are there to just emulate people who have those lives. Don't know what else to tell ya :) Anyway looks like you disagree but far from CMV on the matter. Thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 09:34 PM
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Why? This seems like cutting a date short to get down to business = unattractive. To you maybe. I actually do have a busy schedule. My thought process = if she's not about it, don't waste time. If she's about it, she won't mind waiting a day to really get down to business. Also gross, car sex. waaaaaaaaat This makes no sense. Why would you only stay longer if you knew you would never see her again? Because the only way me and her are going to get to it is if I get to her that day. So I have to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 07:16 PM
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I would just never see them again, because obviously we were both bored. I'm the one who cuts it short, though. Altho a few have acted surprised that I reached out to them afterwards...hasn't really been a big deal in my neck of the woods. You've defined regularly as once every 6 months which is pretty irregular. I defined as like the outer limit. I disagree that it's so crazy irregular though, because if dudes could do that, they'd have lifetime kill counts over 2x as much on average. Like I sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 07:11 PM
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It's pretty much my standard 'dating' play lol. I just see them, chat for a bit, then dip out early and they come to my place (or we go to my car sometime during) the next date. When it's more like 'we just met' and the logistics or whatever just aren't looking good for seeing her again or whatever, then sure, I'll just stay with her the first time for several hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 07:06 PM
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Yeah this "means she's bored and wants to have sex" seems like the exception rather than the rule. (I'm like...usually a 1 or 2 date kind of person -- but if I'm having sex with you without bothering to connect it means I don't care about you at all. You're just physically passable and convenient). the 1 or 2 date thing falls within the 4 hour rule I specified, so I'm not even sure you're disagreeing at this point. But idk, if a guy can make this sort of thing happen for himself with any regular…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 07:03 PM
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Lol benching 225 lbs does not put you in a high percentile of all men if you're a man of average weight and height. But that doesn't mean that within that GROUP I'm even near the top. Shit in most of them I'm probably closer to the bottom fucking lol. Yeah, exactly. Like, being in the bottom of the top 20% is very different from being in the top like....1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 04:32 PM
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Yeah it definitely is not a thing everyone does
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:24 AM
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Nah. If you can score non fat women you are def in top 20%. And tbh unless they're bottom 20% women you are still top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 05:21 AM
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Oh dip
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 01:52 AM
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Dude, everyone has these stupid stories about the broke unattractive, short, ugly etc. who pulls. MAYBE. But like lol, that dude has SOMETHING going for him to make him top 20% sexually attractive an more importantly, he's the exception that proves the rule. I've been out here doing the casual thing for awhile now and I've seen a lot. I have seen only ONE GUY who matches your description pull some tail. And he's a freaking drug dealer badass motherfucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 01:34 AM
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I don't think top 20% has 'his pick' of women, either. Maybe top 5%. I think most guys LTR because they DON'T have their pick of women and so they realize a good one when they get one and stick with it. Top 20% guys (but let's say the bottom half) can score casual sex and stuff with meh/ok/sometimes cute chicks. So when a pretty girl comes along, that's the LTR. A top 1% guy isn't going to LTR as much because the odds of him snagging a chick on his level are just much lower (they're rarer and hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 01:32 AM
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Idk man, most single guys I knew at uni had no trouble getting laid now and then, even the ones who were (and still are) more awkward and weird than me. After uni you have to make the effort but uni is easy mode. No it isn't. You're just failing to consider the fact that you're shitty at self-evaluation and that you and your boys were above average. Go talk to a lot of dudes who go to 'uni.' A lot of them don't get laid, lol. When I was fat as fuck in college, I couldn't do anything casual -- I …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 01:30 AM
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If the 80/20 rule is followed, then you have your own answer. Unless you think 80% of women are hot or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 01:28 AM
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I'm open to it and definitely believe that one of my biggest mistakes in the game has been to write off the girls who, after hooking up with, wanted to be friends (open to still sleeping together but just a somewhat FWB arrangement). Having said that, the problem is this: most women simply do not have that much to offer as friends. A lot are rude, uninteresting, and just...well, aren't that great. If they weren't, you'd be falling in love, right? Anyway, this year I'm going to take more of a 'wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 01:27 AM
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I can explain how a) people underrate themselves and b) leave out other compensating features (are you tall? deal drugs? anything?) Like, a dude getting hit on by a bunch of chicks is NOT NORMAL. I'm sorry, brah. If it was, then the lifetime median sex partner kill count would be higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 01:07 AM
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Yeah everyone says stuff like this but I simply do not see it out there IRL. Usually they a) underrate the guy or b) fail to understand that 'charm' = part of sexual attractiveness top 20% = sexual attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 01:04 AM
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To score outside of a relationship within 4 hours of meeting/facetime a girl? From 18-28 (before a man gets married), if he were to score once every six months, his partner count would be 20. That isn't what we see, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 01:03 AM
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You say they do and don't admit it, but that's just raw speculation so w/e. True, but attraction is caused by connection, and a man doesn't have to be in the top 20% to happen to have exactly the qualities that turn on a particular girl. Attraction in the short term is mostly physical. Especially true for people like you who convince yourselves it's not worth the effort because you're not good enough. Fuck you, you're not. Get out there, give it a shot, and have fun. Like me? lmfao dude I go out…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:59 AM
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LOL dude was in a frat, is handsome by your own admission, is muscular...lmfao. I mean, your husband is a Chad. Top 20%. But yeah, he's not like turbocharged I guess....not top 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:57 AM
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Yeah that's what top 20% means --- of all men. And not only that, but the 80/20 rule applies to all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:56 AM
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I can agree with this. Like, getting any scratch at all in the casual sex arena = top 20%. But a top 1% guy is like.....just fucking killing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:56 AM
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Okay, so you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:55 AM
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Exactly. So much this. People really do not understand what it's like out there. Guys are focused on like, the top 1% and don't understand the difference between that and top 20%. Having access to the game at all REQUIRES top 20% membership.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:54 AM
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Of sexually attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:52 AM
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A big factor your forgetting here especially for young people is access to alcohol, weed and parties. This plays heavily into who has access to the most casual sex. Cool guys = top 20% guys = access to those things. However, most women seek out alcohol and weed smoking environments, like frat parties because they want to let loose and "have fun". Sex "just happens" in these places because it's accepted. Sex is a part of "having fun", where for men "having fun" is sex. No, most women do not, dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:51 AM
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How do you know you're not in the top 20%, exactly? like lol at this...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:50 AM
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No, you are in the top 20%. Sorry brah :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:50 AM
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I was fat as fuck for my mid 20's. Now that I'm ripped, I have a similar experience of it. But ya, in my case my face changed a lot :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:50 AM
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Not only that but I didn't even really approach girls, they pretty much hinted so hard they came onto me. lmfao. that's top 20%. sorry bro, nice brags tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:49 AM
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lol you're top 20%. /explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:48 AM
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Yeah it's so stupid that all of civilized society is structured hierarchically. Lol btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:48 AM
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Every 6 months to me would be top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:47 AM
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I expanded the definition. So to me, 4 hours of facetime = within 4 hours of meeting her. I clarified :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:47 AM
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Maybe most of them have done it once (I actually don't believe this either, but it doesn't matter). And if by 'many' you mean....maybe 1 in 5, you still haven't CMV. To expand the definition of casual sex, though: 4 hours of facetime. So, for example, if you've gone on two dates with a girl, one of which lasted 1 hour and the next of which lasted 3 hours --- that would count. If you've 'known of' a girl for months, but all of your face-face interaction time adds up to <=4 hours, that counts as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 10:58 PM
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Lol I mean, if you see guys like that with girls who look like that often.....idk where you live but it must be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 06:17 PM
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Yes and a 6 or 7 is way out of his league. Cool attitude or no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 05:29 PM
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Yeah man super fat. He had a huge turkey neck going....ycccck. I have never seen a guy with that build slay with women, so, maybe YMMV. And lol Molly was very pretty --- she's no 10 model or whatever, but you need to think of her relative to the average woman in the populous. She's def out of Jonah Hill's league.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 04:52 PM
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Yeah, funny you should mention that. In the last year or so as I've really honed my style, younger girls are always asking me if I'm a drug dealer. lol. It's like they're hoping I am... Well, I don't think that's the intended message. Because the entire dynamic is played for laughs. So, it's almost commentary on how pussified the new generation of kids is. Plus, in 22 Jump Street, they go to college and everything reverses to normal --- Channing Tatum is a popular frat bro and Jonah Hill is an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 04:45 PM
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Yes. There are things that are objectively attractive, but then there are other things that vary between women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 04:37 PM
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Lol even thin Jonah Hill was super fat lmao. In real life, most of the guys who are "Chads" are just guys who are a) in great shape, b) low bodyfat, c) extroverted. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 04:36 PM
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Lol it's just a movie. TRP would just respond that Eric (Dave Franco) is extremely good-looking, therefore can get away with being less traditionally masculine. I'm not even TRP and I can see that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 04:35 PM
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I don't look like a conventional Chad...what works is just, seriously, being SUPER SUPER INTO YOURSELF. Like, cartoonish bro-osity mixed with being VERY NICE to her. Like a bull in a china shop or something :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 01:23 AM
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Even women 20-29 are about 25 pounds overweight on average...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 06:19 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 06:18 PM
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Umm...men are equally as bad :) Most of them are also fat fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 06:14 PM
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Any evolutionary explanation offered up about...well, anything. The "non-controversial" aspects boil down to: hey buddy, conform to your traditional male gender role, kthx!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 12:45 AM
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Keyword: talk Women have straight up told me to my face about how much they hate short guys and an hour later we're fucking. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 12:39 AM
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This. is. not. true. I know a dude that looks like he walked out of a freaking A&F catalog. And he was dating this frumpy chick who was 4 years older than him. So yeah, as usual, if you date down you can get away with a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 11:44 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 11:42 PM
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This is a huge exaggeration. There's a bit of an advantage to being attractive, but the real ding is for being unattractive. Even the beauty premium really isn't that much, when it comes down to dollars and cents. You should get to know some "really good looking" guys. You will find that they run into pretty much the same bullshit most other guys run into --- flakiness, cheating, etc. And no, they definitely don't get to just break rules with impunity. In fact, oft times they are policed more he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 11:41 PM
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Looks are a combination of face, body, and height, with face being the most important. And 'guys, don't be fat' isn't really it. Your style has a lot of impact on your success... And they've done experiments on the influence of group dynamics on perceived looks ---- social status does influence the perception of an individual's attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 11:38 PM
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But men can be attractive and still "do wrong". For example, I can't stand "bros", or feminine but attractive men, or men that are just douchey in general. Doesn't matter if they are attractive, seriously. This. Most women who are cuter than average have options. If you're too much of a jerk, they won't dig it. The best you will do is get ONS. I had to learn this the hard way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 11:34 PM
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A chubby 4/10 is sexually invisible to most men with options. 66% of women in the United States (even the 20-29 bracket) are overweight or obese, so no...unless you are categorically excluding > 70% of men with the qualifier "with options," in which case the same definitely does not apply to women. Being "good-looking" is more a threshold quality than anything else and a lot of it is within the control of most men. Go to the gym, get fit, lose bodyfat, groom yourself, rock a cool style. Done. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 11:31 PM
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Lol dude whatever... If you're going to sit here and deny that some women have a very positive effect on you versus others and be petulant, fine. The rest is just insecurity...whether you can see it or not. You're focusing on the wrong things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 10:27 PM
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What desirable outcome? If a woman makes you feel alive and brings out the best in you....what other desirable outcome is there?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:04 PM
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It's a turn off because of your insecurities and nothing more. Face your fears. Live life, brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:44 PM
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I don't think TRP gets any "biological instincts" "right," because there simply is not enough empirical support for the instincts they argue for. Cultural norms and the rules of courtship for short-term partnerships I believe they get right. You are not submissive to women because you see yourself as a woman and her as a man or something similarly stupid. You are submissive to women because you see yourself a boy and her your mother. Yeah. That's a trufax right 'cher.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 06:20 PM
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I don't think they are incompatible. Classical liberalism concerns a type of economy and government interference in that economy, Marxism is primarily a theory of history. So, technically one could say that I am a Marxist who believes that in this stage of technological progress, a capitalist/classical (a lot of leftists believe that capitalism and classical liberalism are different because they use capitalism to mean the mercantilism/capitalist system we have in the modern age, but I just use i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 06:13 PM
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It's insurmountable. Did I mention I'm the world's foremost vocabulistics and grammarology expert? grin
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 06:09 PM
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Why beg for something you don't have? Your attempts at trash talk are just gay --- literally. Stick to what you know, such as differentiating your ass from a hole in the ground. Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 06:07 PM
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It's just more pretzel-logic fuckery. It really is as simple as: dude, if she likes you she likes you. If she doesn't, no big deal, move on! If she was difficult on day 1 and you had to 'maintain super chad alpha frame version 2.0,' then why act shocked when she's difficult on day 584?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 12:21 AM
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lmfao that dude is a joke and his "studies" are beyond retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 12:19 AM
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TRPers have yet to bring an argument to the table, so I'm not sure why I need to argue. Although, I did already make an argument that hasn't been responded to...:)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 12:06 AM
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Oh lord, here comes some r and K nonsense...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:35 PM
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Except you don't know that. What if you knew eating skittles was correlated win being obese, would you still eat them? That's what I thought, because you're a smart guy and know that correlation is not causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:14 PM
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You're betting on the wrong thing. Rather than bet on "this chick brings out the best in me" you bet on "ZOMG I hope she doesn't leave zomg" and then ironically declare that the second impulse is "alpha" Lose the fear, ya babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:13 PM
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Or maybe...get this!...she's not a psycho at all.... Whoaaaaaaaaa
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:11 PM
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Awe....don't cry, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:54 PM
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Cool so you admit that you don't have any real evidence. More irony in you telling me I have no idea how science works and then disparaging peer reviewed studies as support after getting called out. TRP is so cute. And look at that another weird just so hypothetical whatever....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:46 PM
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Here, please show me what evidence you have for an innate instinct. I want hard stuff: heritability stats will even do, even though they're shitty in human populations, genetic data evidencing this specific instinct, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:22 PM
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Lol annnnnnd without realizing it you're admitting these instincts are actually cultural. Gg.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:03 PM
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You're not doing science. You're repeating tired tropes in the absence of concrete evidence and expecting me to share your biases. I blame irony for why your last comment is hilarious though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:00 PM
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You didn't offer a theory.....LMFAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:58 PM
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I understand that you have the ability to assert things and make up just so stories for their existence. Hint: I did the same thing to show you why this tactic proves nothing! That you don't see that this is what you're doing is the major TRP disconnect with...well, serious inquiry The fact that you're even talking this way about race, a concept that didn't exist 600 years ago, lets me know pretty much everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:54 PM
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Sounds a lot like a No True Scotsman defense...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:36 PM
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You're understanding is very basic. Please provide your evidence of a causal link then, hoss, rather than attempt to assert your way into a point :) If you actually want to know why men want restrictions on women's sexuality in marriage I can explain it to you. If you can drop the snark and actually want to learn something about the other half of the species. Your explanations so far are just-so stories that have little support beyond present-day cultural norms. So I hope you have something else…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:35 PM
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The paternal security has more to do with handing down property than any "instinct." Civilization = stationary populous = property rights suddenly very important = high competition for resources/status = necessity for strict rules to ensure property is kept within a family, for ex --- marriage/alliance between families!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:33 PM
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Also there are so many problems with sex at dawn that I can't even begin to address them right now. You should. You'd probably find that the research supporting your viewpoints suffers from the exact same flaws!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:20 PM
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^ This. TRPers love ascribing "evolutionary" explanations to everything that are nothing more than a polish on Western culture presentism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:19 PM
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Causation and fault both matter and it's pretty telling that we have a TRPers saying they don't matter. A good SMP/rmp result for a man is to have incentive to always be his best self. If you're afraid to play to win, hey, just say so. Like, why the fear of her walking away? It's not whether you win or lose, it's how well you played the game. And most dudes who are getting divorced didn't play the game well --- they got lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:18 PM
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Some people are able to secure sex with many partners they are attracted to. Some people are not. The latter group always seems to rag on the former :) Promiscuous women rarely have "low" standards. Promiscuous men are the ones more likely to lower their standards for the sake of getting it in for the evening. I have always thought the 'partner cheating risk/divorce risk' chart plotted vs number of partners was retarded, not the least of which is because -derp- correlation does not equal causati…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:13 PM
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Mean Girls are more fun but also have Ms. piggy tendencies. I don't go after mean girls unless I'm just getting out of a relationship because dealing with them toughens you the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 09:07 PM
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While I could take the "breaking news also: water is wet" road, I'd like to focus on the word conventional. Conventional attraction, to me, is more a function of a specific culture in time. So, for ex, the obsession TRPers have with Chad is not an obsession with anything that's universal to humanity. It's just what society conditions everyone to believe is attractive in the present day. The more someone deviates from that conditioning (for whatever reason), the less sway "conventional attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 05:34 AM
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Enjoy saying things other people never said :) Makes for productive discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 05:21 AM
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Lol dude males assert dominance over other males all the time. It definitely has happened to you. You probably just don't realize when it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 12:21 AM
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If you have to be mean, yes. Some people are just naturally kind of dickish....like me! So I just direct that energy toward other men and not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 11:25 PM
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Putting a woman on the pedestal (ie. being nice and sweet to her), is the absolute wrong way to try and lead a woman Being nice and sweet != putting a woman on a pedastal. It's called being a decent human being and realizing that there is an inherent power differential between men and women. TRP can totally miss me with this bullshit. I don't care about how many managers with fragile egos get bitched around by their wives. The best way to keep a relationship in tact is to play the game. And rule…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 01:46 AM
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And so again, the question remains --- what the fucking fuck? :) It's just interesting that the promiscuity gene or urge seems to be the minority urge by a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 01:37 AM
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Right. Righteous anger, the meting out of justice, etc. these things will not lead any man to be described as vicious. Strong, passionate, brave, etc....but never vicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 11:10 PM
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Yeah but what about the spaces between LTRs?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 10:59 PM
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I told you already, man lol. Scroll back up. I mean, you need to gain more confidence in yourself and love yourself more. All what you just typed is very much woe is me. Go to the gym, start investing in your body. Join some clubs! Hone your interests! Take a proactive interest in yourself. Your thought patterns will change and you will find it easier to give positive vibes to others once you deal with your self-esteem issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 10:52 PM
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Yes, empirically shown for short-term encounters. Lol ya duh. On average, duh probably. Remember though, I mean....the average man only has 8 sexual partners during his entire life (WHAT. THE. FUCKING. FUCK. FUCK?!!?!?!?!?!??!?!!)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 10:43 PM
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To make up a bunch of ridiculous and delusional alpha male fantasies for TRP readers to eat up, mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 10:42 PM
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Yeah but it isn't a unicorn. It's pretty standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 10:41 PM
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Stalkers and etc. aren't giving her anything. They're trying to take something from her. Usually validation, approval, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 10:40 PM
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Dude, it's pretty simple: be cocky, mean, dominant, whatever to other men be nice and sweet to her. even when you enforce your boundaries, just do so in a gentle way. I don't raise my voice to women or yell or argue. I just calmly tell them when they upset me and I tell them why and they can take it from there (for the most part :D).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 10:38 PM
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Ok... so if you want to be in the "hey this dude is all right, I'll spot him a drink or two..." or "hey this dude is cool, i don't mind talking to him even though i don't know him" crowd... what form do you need to ape? I'll give you a hint my dudebro: it's not "YOU ARE STEALING FROM THIS BUSINESS GOODSIR AND RISKING EVERYTHING --- YOUR JOB, YOUR PROSPECTS, EVERYTHING! HOW DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT?!" Not everyone gets to drink free diet cokes at bars. Just like not everyone understands how to talk …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 10:33 PM
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....lol. Well we have indeed uncovered the issue here. And yes people can sense uptightness from a mile away. Why do you think the cool kids formed cliques and only let certain people in...? Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 09:33 PM
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I wasn't going to say that at all. Look at the way you're putting things. The bartender is a thief to you for giving you a free diet coke. And that's exactly why they don't give you free drinks. People sense these things. Lighten up!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 07:00 PM
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But not as important as behavior I would argue. Feel free to weigh in on this. Physical attractiveness has been repeatedly shown to overwhelmingly dominate a woman's first impression of a man and choice for short term mating. Not only that, but physical attractiveness is its own social value. Behavior only matters over a long period of time (outside of extremes, of course). Guys would be best served by 1) getting down to a low bf % to maximize facial attractiveness 2) building a decent amount of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 06:29 PM
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You're not really seeing the game. Remember, I said get to know the staff. Get to know the bartenders. You'll be surprised at how much things will change when you start talking to people and putting good vibes out to the world. They come back.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 06:21 PM
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Get out more!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 03:40 PM
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Yes. They do it for me all the time. The world can be a pretty nifty place. I'm not avoiding anything. If you don't like them commenting, I gave you a solution. If you want to stand on the principle of they should have to change then good luck. You presented it as an obstacle to your social success, I just gave you a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 03:38 PM
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People who haven't been in love, ya
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 06:48 AM
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That's not a figure from all human history. It's history since the birth of civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 06:41 AM
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Cold and rational love is an impossibility!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 06:39 AM
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Lol order a diet coke and pretend it's a rum and coke. Problem solved. I only drink like half the time I go to bars too. Plus if you know the staff they'll start letting you get the diet coke for free. So free diet cokes!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 06:36 AM
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The best way is to have them talk to you. Wear cool clothes and put out a good vibe and know the staff. If someone makes eye contact just smile and say hi. For bonus points say and do it like a five year old would....like with a smile and a little wave.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 06:34 AM
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Mean-spirited person/gossipy/Drama prone Not tier 1 sex. Not fit. Not smart. Has no passions in life, no life of her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 06:46 PM
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All models are wrong, but some are useful. If you are going out there to interact with any given woman, you'd want to start out, without knowing anything else, with the assumption her attractions are more or less EV. As the interaction proceeds, you will start to see how far she deviates on various traits, and you can adjust accordingly. So defaulting to something like AWALT isn't bad at all or wrong --- it's eminently rational. What's irrational is refusing to adjust the blueprint when new info…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 06:44 PM
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Lol the tips you gave are good tips, wtf. Go to the gym - ya, really good advice. Lose excess fat - also good advice. Be confident - can't go wrong there. Man up and ask her out - same thing. dafuq?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 06:38 PM
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Based on...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 06:35 PM
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I see your point but I mean...in my life (hence, me saying that it's just my rule and admitting that it's possible that it isn't a general rule) that's just what I've seen. For every woman like the above I have come across, there are like 10 who have a lot of inlets for validation. And a lot of the men ITT seem to agree, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 06:34 PM
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But I love the women I'm with so no more than 3 at a time. And no new ones unless I actually love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 08:34 AM
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Funnily enough correlation isn't causation, boi. So show me studies that actually support your claim first.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 07:43 AM
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What I described is a relationship. Doesn't really get much better than that IMO. I don't view myself as single or spinning plates. I love the women I'm with. I'm nice. I'm honest. Maybe the disconnect is that I don't give much of a shit about monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 07:42 AM
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I defined it and told you what I meant. Rather than continue the discussion, you went off on a tangent to prove that love could not be a spiritual thing which betrays a profound ignorance of the human condition and screams "I DON'T GET IT," to me. The rest is you being bound and determined to tell me that I have to play some race to the bottom TRP game for a woman's affections I choose not to. I don't have to. You don't either. Peace, brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 04:10 AM
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As per the dictionary? LMFAO. Then you keep setting up a bunch of strawmen.... I understand. You don't get what I'm saying. Let's leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 03:57 AM
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Guess I'm either a beast or a God then, hoss.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 03:55 AM
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Hmmmmm....exception that proves my rule then lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 03:51 AM
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Nah I don't agree. I don't need any woman. I want some of them, though. And if you ever find yourself saying I need someone else... well partner, you done goofed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 02:00 AM
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lol ok maybe that's not the best representation of the phenomenon I'm talking about then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 01:58 AM
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Spiritual = LOVE Does love not exist now? Women certainly love some men and do not love others. The rest of what you say is stuff I never said (i.e. she has to fuck a dozen guys blah blah muhinsecurity type stuff). And you're just contradicting everything TRP says by now saying that men don't have to earn these things. Which is it? Do men need to give value to receive a woman's physical and loving affection? Or do they not? Make up your minds. Jee-zus. Moving past that, I'm going to say that sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 01:56 AM
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Why not? They let you do whatever the fuck you want and they can do whatever the fuck they want...see ya Saturday for some sex and netflix. No drama. No neediness. Love and companionship when needed. Gewd times. Independent women --- truly independent women -- can also get shit done. You could be business partners with a woman like that and she'd hold up her shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 01:47 AM
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You can feel lonely but I mean....you sound like the exception that proves the rule. And for the record, I don't think those other women are all bitchy and mean --- for them, that's just what a rough patch looks like lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 01:45 AM
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Women do NOT (generally) understand a) true rejection b) true isolation Men are always trying to care for and protect women. Further, women usually have a neverending stream of validation and attention --- in various forms. Men do not have that. Even top men do not have even a fraction of what the top women have with regard to those things. There was a graphic that showed what loneliness for a woman and for a man was like. The woman was like 'omg only losers hit on me the last two weeks, only 14…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 01:30 AM
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I know, that was just the perfect follow-up. The thing is, the party girls --- for better or worse --- demand constant novelty and feelz. It's a zest for life. If you're trying to get in there and take the tiger by the tail...well, you better be some kind of hero :D Most of them aren't worth that, though --- I agree with you, there. In which case, just have some fun and keep them as friends or at some distance. But sometimes....you just have to give the rare special one a shot and put that playe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 01:24 AM
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Yes. Most men who get into relationships are needy and insecure. Women who have achieved real independent status aren't going to put up with that shit for long. While most of the women who say they're independent are more or less just mean....the independent ones do exist. And they're great
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 10:01 PM
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On lifetime sexual partners...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 07:09 PM
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I guess, dude. Most research has the median at around 4-6 for women for lifetime partners. Most people aren't like what you're saying --- yes, even the 9s and 10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 06:53 PM
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Those insecurities seem like the result of inexperience, though. As a guy, if you sleep with a fair number of women, you realize that it isn't like that. Like, "the best lover" is really a matter of whatever mood you're in on a particular day. Instead, it's more like....tiers. There's tier 1 sex, tier 2 sex, and then tier 3 sex (not so good). Sometimes the great sex had less to do with the person and more to do with the circumstances...etc. etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 06:52 PM
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A woman with a high n-count is a woman whose affections aren't difficult to earn. That isn't true. First of all, many of those women have demanding physical or persona standards --- that's why they're extroverted, they're always on the hunt for "that" type of guy. Second of all, obtaining a woman's sexual affection is not the same as attaining her emotional affection is not the same as attaining her spiritual affection. Women with low N-Counts often mistake physical and or emotional affection fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 06:49 PM
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Miss me with that fuck shit, give me the cute shy girls any day. lmfao I can just feel the sting of past wrongs...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 06:45 PM
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Extroverted/aggressive women are awesome because they tend to be interesting, charming, smart, and great "muses." But the downside is....they can be bitchy, competitive, and ruthless. Shy and quiet women are awesome because they tend to let you do your thing, they're nice and sweet, and they enjoy "serving"....but the downside is...they can be boring and sap you of your ambition. Both types have their ups and downs. Pick your poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 06:43 PM
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TRPers always say this stuff "A man, for some reason, cannot state preference without being seen as shallow," but I've stated my preference for fit women many times and haven't taken that kind of flak. But it just boils down to what I said: wanting something you can't give. Most of the dudes bleating about how they need fit women aren't fit themselves. So those men are (rightly) seen as superficial and shallow. A fit guy who says 'hey I'd prefer a fit gal' doesn't take that kind of heat...fitnes…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 06:39 PM
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I'm turned off by people who want something they can't give. So if a woman demands a very traditional long term partner but fails to live up to that image herself, that annoys me. Same for a guy, too. I don't personally care about that stuff. But even I understand that lol...if you're part of the higher n count crowd...it's not fair to try and demand your partner be pure as the driven snow. Now if you find one who is and you're compatible, hey that's cool. It's just the demanding that I think is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 02:47 PM
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"I've slept with shorter." https://goo.gl/images/KrXwjp Ha, just kidding. My experience more reflects just short term sexual stuff...cause that's what TRP seems fixated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 08:52 AM
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That's interesting. I tend to just believe all traits have different weights and everyone has those traits at various parts of the bell curve. The average of these deviations is your relative attractiveness. So if a girl gives equal weight to face and height, then a height of -1 SD with a face of +1 SD will have her treating him like an average guy...assuming everything else is at the mean. That fits with your theory because some women place higher weights on certain constellations of traits ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 07:48 AM
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So the shortest guy you've ever slept with is/was 5'10?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 07:40 AM
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Cosign 100%. Focus on your own life and being the person you want to be. A lot of women will come into that life. Even more may not come into it.....but they'll definitely take a few peeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 02:53 AM
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Hahaha yeah, I had to go the "full disclosure" route lol. I mean, the main thing really is just to do you. If more guys just went their own way (no, not MGTOW lol) and just got serious about themselves and their lives, more women would come into their lives. I think that's the number one thing --- have some shit going on for yourself that you enjoy doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 12:03 AM
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It isn't "troll posting," it's just...reality. Height barely explains any of the variance in attractiveness ratings empirically in this study (SWR/SHR accounts for 80%...height...5%): http://www.pnas.org/content/110/17/6925.abstract I mean, I can pull up other studies that call what you say has been "empirically proven" into question.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 11:06 PM
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It's the number one way women filter out men through datting sites and apps. So? it's been empirically shown to be true, that women prefer taller men. Okay, but women prefer a lot of things. And that study is just looking at personal ads, which really isn't a good barometer of what people actually do. if you are short man, you are at a MASSIVE disadvantage. Based on.....? It's the "massive" part that I just don't see much, if any, evidence for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 11:03 PM
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I'm 5'5 and I had an LTR with a chick who was 5'7. She was pretty hot, too, by normal standards: white, blue eyes, thin, blonde hair, white teeth --- and this is when I was fat, depressed, and probably looked my worst in life (and people would constantly tell me that "wow, she's really hot, for you"). Now to be fair --- she was more than a little nutzo. So yeah, I think a 5'4 woman would date a 5'1 man. And those other factors you listed are factors that just make men attractive to women general…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 11:00 PM
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The other points about shorter and taller women don't gibe with my experience but I mean, I'm short so my experience may be the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 08:36 PM
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LOL! Seriously, the evo-psychosis....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 06:41 PM
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Be a cocky asshole to other men, be sweet to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 06:41 PM
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Well, seeing as how I said they don't care about it that much, I'm not saying that women wouldn't "prefer" this or that. Women would prefer their men to look like Brad Pitt, as well....and that certainly doesn't happen, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 06:13 PM
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There is literally no support for the evolutionary stuff you're talking about. A) natural/sexual selection removes genetic variance B) normal male height varies by nearly a foot C) height shows a high heritability meaning most of the variance in a given populous is genetic This means that height was likely not subject to any meaningful selection pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 06:12 PM
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You obviously haven't read much of what I have said. It's mostly this point
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 06:14 AM
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This is where I think TRP is totally full of shit. I get that female fertility craters after 35, but.... Women can look smoking hot at 25-30, and a lot of them look damn fine well into their 30's. It more factors in in terms of an LTR. And it's really mostly about being at a stage of life that's more or less similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 01:14 AM
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attractive enough for sex (no effort, need to get jollies, horny): pretty face but fat or butterface. Most guys will lie about this but it's the truth. 66% of women are overweight or obese, so you do the math. attractive: not fat and not butterface
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 12:51 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 12:04 AM
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Ummm..... I mean, if that's true then I'm alpha as fuck lmao. It honestly boils down to how adventurous she is, sexually and how comfortable she is with you in that way, IMO. TRP guys overvalue dirty sex. I've had awesome, dirty sex with girls who weren't interested in having a relationship with me. Isn't TRP all about how women just love love love alphas and want relationships with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 11:37 PM
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Okay, well, I'm not really that into TRP and I view it as common sense. Whoever you were when you first got together is who she agreed to have sex with. The more you deviate from that person, the more trouble you're going to have. Seems simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 11:34 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 11:33 PM
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The fitness stuff is just an example. But the decline in fitness, presupposing one takes care of his or herself, really should not be that great. People just stop taking care of themselves. And yes, saggy boobs would be if the condition for sex in the relationship was "young/perky tits." Relationship agreements are unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 11:33 PM
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Your partner granted you access to sex under certain conditions. When you fail to meet those conditions, your partner has a right to deny you the sex. For ex, fit man meets woman. Woman decides to have a relationship with said man. The tacit agreement is that as long as the man is fit he will get sex. When the man stops being fit, the woman will start withholding sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 08:43 PM
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Eh, with regard to long term committed relationships, maybe. But with regard to short-term flings and fwb/fb arrangements, it's pretty straightforward: if you look good, you'll get in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 06:03 PM
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Not taking yourself too seriously is much better advice than to never take what a woman says seriously. Yes, in the context of dealing with women. When dealing with other men take yourself very seriously. That's the key. You don't let other men put you down or disrespect you --- don't go apeshit over everything, but firmly stand your ground and vigorously guard your boundaries. Q4RP: How should an RP man handle a really embarrassing moment on a first date? "Ha. That was embarrassing." along with…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 02:58 AM
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Handsome definitely is a compliment. It tends to mean classically good-looking. If you're talking about what girls say when they're attracted to you....they will say hot or cute more often. But they say handsome, too. Generally, if a woman compliments you without you asking for it, you should just assume she's attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 09:41 AM
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Lifting isn't particularly great advice. Losing fat is the best advice. Losing fat PLUS lifting = golden ticket to the game. Plenty of women respond to men with sub 10% bodyfat --- your face will be as defined as it can be and consquently, the most masculine it can be. Now, if you combine that with some muscle mass, you've really got a winning combo. Women went ga-ga over Brad Pitt's body in fightclub and he only weighed like 150 pounds at 5'11. I say all of this as a very short guy, 5'5. It's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 09:38 AM
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This guy gets it. The coolest thing about NSA stuff is to see true and honest yearning in her eyes. That's the real shit right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 09:30 AM
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Nah. You should run through a dozen or more girls who just want you for casual sex and nothing else and see what that does for your self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 09:29 AM
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The last woman I heard say that was currently seeing a guy who was 5'6. Lol. You girlies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 09:24 AM
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Right, because it's working. But generally whether men are getting those needs met is a societal wide issue. You see what I'm saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 12:04 AM
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I don't believe that, but that's TRP. So me and you agree. I agree that most men can get sex in relationships, and the reason why they can is because the social norms surrounding traditional courtship work. However, whether or not most men in a society are getting their sexual needs met is indeed a societal issue. In this case, the norms seem to be working, so it's not something to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 11:45 PM
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It's not a bad example. It asks them to do those things and offers men and women different incentives for doing so. The incentives for men are what we are discussing. Without proper incentive, the men drop out and society is fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 06:54 PM
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Okay, which tenets are you going to accept? If you accept the 80/20 shit, then yes, you should care. Those societal losers you speak of often have productive jobs and good educations, or at least decent productive potential. If they are being denied a basic human need, that's your problem, because if they drop out, then the society goes kaput.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 06:53 PM
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Once again, "most men can into a LTR and have sex with all that jazz included" comes from the social norms and obligations centered around courtship. So long as those norms hold and enough (usually baseline) needs are met, it's fine. But that != it's not my problem or it's not society's problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 11:13 PM
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Save the society wide mores, norms, and limitations bearing on that personal problem. I'm done. Remain ignorant, PLEB. Lol jk bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 02:53 AM
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Lol you keep contradicting yourself and agreeing with me and not even realizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 02:52 AM
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Yeah Eliot Roger didn't happen. The numerous other shootings by sexually frustrated individuals didn't happen either. It's pretty typical behavior...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:57 AM
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They care about you buying in...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:56 AM
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No, it isn't. When people's needs go unmet in a society, they opt out and engage in behavior antagonistic society. To answer your numbers: 1) Revolt, insurrection once the opting out reached a critical mass 2) Because men who have regular access to sex and benefit from society will produce for that society. Bottom line: when enough people fail to benefit from a society they will opt out and revolt or leave and the society will fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:23 AM
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You can't have a society if only 5-10% of men are incentivized to do work. Historically, men did most, if not all the work, in civilized society. How do you incentivize the rest? You promise them women in exchange for work through various institutional and cultural norms. Your argument about it not being your problem or there being no societal obligations or responsibility or whatever is wrong and is completely incoherent when viewed in light of how male labor has been historically organized by …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:14 AM
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Wrong. No, your reading is wrong. I was not discussing why "society creates rules." I was discussing why an individual follows those rules. And the reason is to obtain a benefit. So yes, society needs those things but to get those things it needs people to follow rules or to "buy-in," and to get people to follow those rules, it offers people benefits for following said rules. Do you think people just follow rules blindly without any regard to their own self-interest or any promised benefit? That…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:03 AM
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Tertiary? The state's involvement in marriage creates a benefit for being married. To obtain that benefit, a set of obligations must be met. Marriage is a contractual relationship. Contracts are a set of mutual obligations. And I'm the one ignorant of history? Lol. If you believe that it was put into place to control behavior or make sure everyone gets a fair chance to fuck you have no idea what the fuck is going on. You just contradicted yourself. You just said it was to "control inheritance an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:01 AM
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Society has no obligation to make sure you get a GF and a chance to reproduce Yeah bro, that's why the state got involved in marriage, that's why marriage came about to begin with, that's why social norms for sex (known as coursthip) exist, that's why an entire culture centered around long-term stable family was created, because there's just no obligations anywhere to anyone! Every society has rules and obligations centered around sex and the purpose of following those rules is to obtain the ben…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:47 AM
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Yeah simple butthurt. Lol you have no clue what you're talking about. Rejection (a thing most women don't have to face in nearly the amount a normal man will) is as painful as physical pain. http://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/rejection.aspx A woman lived as a man for 18 months and had a full on mental breakdown from how she was treated, as an average man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip7kP_dd6LU
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:43 AM
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Low smv men aren't going to stop being ugly or fat just because a god PR campaign is created to try and convince women that low SMV men are attractive partners and husbands Yes they will. People are stupid. "Attraction" works a lot like brand loyalty. No matter how many dove commercials they make about ugly or fat women being attractive I'm still not going to get my dick hard over a fat woman or an ugly woman. That's why fat women have more sex partners right? All of those flaccid dicks? 66% of …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:38 AM
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but to be frank it's not my problem and nor do I really care No, you are confusing your apathy for you not having any social obligation to help your fellow man, or sociopathy to the layman. Societies live and die based on shared obligation. Decadence comes with the rise of sociopathic behavior. It just isn't something society as a whole cares about or needs to When individuals fail to benefit from a society, they will turn on that society and drop out of it. Society definitely asks a lot from th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:37 AM
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If you have a low SMV and are not "marriage material" or even "boyfriend material" that is not society's problem or women's problem, that is YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM What the fuck ever. This flavor of "no one owes you anything" completely misunderstands the point of obtaining membership in a society. You enter into a society and remain a part of it to retain its benefits. A society that fails to benefit you is a society that has failed you. The ability to reproduce, to feel affection, and the like a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:32 AM
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Since you clearly think very highly of yourself, what is the gold standard? There is none, as of yet. Standardized tests and IQ tests measure skills that an individual has developed and that are important in a particular time and place. The g-loadings of various tests vary even between closely related societies such as the US and Britain, suggesting as much. Personally, I believe it is IQ. Unsurprising. I'm going to need a source for that claim. IQ test have been designed over and over again to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 09:47 AM
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Holding it out of the water when you take a shit. There. I said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 09:15 AM
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http://i.imgur.com/dhMeAzK.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 09:14 AM
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On the one hand as owner of something well beyond that 5% cut-off, I've had girls tell me that they get the shakes (in the good way lol) just thinking about prior sex they've had with me and other such flattery. On the other hand, many of those same girls would never get into a full on relationship with me. The conclusion? Sure, it matters for sex. But not much else. And the big takeaway that TRPers refuse to understand, apparently? Sex just isn't everything. You can fuck a girl "Side to Side" s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 09:09 AM
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Standardized test scores provide percentiles. So if I'm in the 99.5th percentile, that tells me more about how I stack up against other people than an IQ. Then why do you need to verify the actual IQ score? Because (most people believe, incorrectly, in this society) IQ is supposed to be the gold standard "measure" of intelligence. Or they're just interested in these things? Yes, people are just randomly interested in quantifying their personal attributes specifically in relation to other people.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 09:00 AM
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No it isn't proven. They're all within the same range. Dude needing to quantify it is insecure because you need to know exactly how you stack up....because you don't already know. And yes generally people who are super interested in that stuff are just insecure and looking for a new way to status whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:06 PM
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First of all, the so-called g loading is highest on tests of cultural learning such as vocabulary. So a test having learned information in no real way harms its function as a de facto IQ test. And the correlation is possible because the material is more or less the same, with some tests focusing more on crystallized knowledge than others. Go read about this stuff I'm not making it up. Go look at the correlations, even tests like the ACT have similar correlations with IQ tests. And even taking th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 03:38 PM
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Going through the trouble of "correlating" it is the sign of insecurity. And wrt SAT not being an IQ tests, that's silly. Standardized tests like the LSAT, MCAT, etc correlate with IQ tests as well as IQ tests correlate with one another. In fact, those tests are better suited to the mantle of 'IQ' tests because they draw on a much larger sample.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 08:14 AM
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I paint this picture because I want to underscore the fact that I have little to be insecure or bitter about. But you painted the picture to begin with.... Posting pictures online itself is a sign of insecurity... Correlating an SAT to IQ is a sign of insecurity.... lol Not that there's anything wrong with insecurity. I get insecure, I post pics, I do that stuff, but I mean....be cereal, please. My point is, TRP makes it seem like if you're not out there fucking as many randoms as you can (and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 06:28 AM
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Did you take the MCATs? the LSAT? The bar? The Mboards? Of course not. You're just talking out of your ass, as noted above. The reason why professionals are high status, even the ones who --- within the professions are low status --- is because of chodes like you. You secretly resent that status and so you resort to saying asinine things like 'yeah a lawyer or doctor really isn't much better than the dude who sells African black soap.' Like lol...this is spoken like someone who does not do and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 08:49 PM
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Cops are stupid, so no you don't need to be particularly smart to evade police detection. You're just talking out of your ass. Unless you think the IQ floor of the latter group you're referring to is 1 SD above average (which is fucking insane), then no, most of them couldn't pass the exams I referred to, which acts as a cognitive floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 08:12 PM
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That's a toss up. Bill Gates is super duper rich. Now imagine either Franklin or Bash next to Bill Gates. Who is higher status? Hard to say. One will always and forever be a nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 08:09 PM
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It is self evident that they are of the same social class as uber drivers, part-time construction workers, and guys that sell "Pashmina" shawls and "African black soap" in parking lots. No, they aren't. The latter group couldn't pass the bar exam or medical boards --- on average --- if their lives depended on it. You're confusing the lower levels of status within a profession for levels of status between professions. The DUI lawyer may never be thought of as a great lawyer in the way an appellat…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 08:07 PM
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Lol how hard is it to take your shoulder circumference and your waist circumference? How hard is it to put up pics on any photo rating site that will give you percentile rankings? How hard is it to figure out your SD in male height? Even stuff like body composition is easy to figure out. You just need to look at your bodyfat % vs average bodyfat %. (the US Navy method is pretty foolproof and accurate). You also need to look at strength standards to figure out your level of muscle mass --- these …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 01:31 AM
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What's funny is that all of this is VERY easy to figure out. Approach it like an economist and you'll have yourself worked out pretty well. For example, if you are a man, figure out your SWR, figure out how close you are to your ideal bodily proportions, figure out how tall or short you are relative to average, and figure out how good-looking your face is from 1-10 (just put photos up and have them get rated, or just put photos up and message/talk to girls of varying attractiveness online and se…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 08:53 PM
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No it doesn't. The point is that positive traits only add a little while the negative version is a dealbreaker. Seeing both together is rare because of strict probability --- physical short stature in a man + 10 level good looks are like 1/100 x 1/1000 probabilities. It has nothing to do with 'the point.' I'm sure it exists, though. We can use another example of let's say, a very very wealthy ugly man scoring with women, though. I completely disagree with a lot of TRP thought, by the way, that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 07:38 PM
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Even then, a Zac Efron-tier guy would struggle if he is socially awkward and has other red flags surrounding him. Yes that fits in with what I'm saying. Whatever your deficiencies are must be balanced by another positive trait to the exact SAME degree + as the other is -. The negative version of a trait is generally a deal-breaker, whereas the positive version is not going to be a deal-clincher. I don't think this is true at all, it just depends on how negative VERSUS how positive. Once again, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 07:36 PM
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The US. Go read the CDC data.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 05:19 PM
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How do you know? Have you seen both these features together in the same person? Statistically I can pretty much guarantee you haven't so why talk out of your ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 05:17 PM
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Positive traits that are developed to the same extreme as negative traits do cancel them out though If a 5'0 man were in the top .01% of looks, for ex. The problem is that depending on the negative trait such a balance may not be possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 03:11 PM
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OK but when you rely on exceptions that prove the rule....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 03:05 PM
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These scales confuse me. To me, a 5 should represent AVERAGE. Well average for a woman is 5'5 and 160-170 pounds. Average for a man is 5'10 and damn near 200 pounds --- no not of muscle. That is what a 5 is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 07:04 AM
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Of course no "usually." And yes, it's not ALL looks... He has to bust a move, like the song says. So it's (1) Be hot, (2) Talk to women. It happens occasionally on impulse when women are horny, but typically, women are more likely to go with a 7/10 that's convenient over a 9/10 that just pops up out of nowhere. http://i.imgur.com/NAk6C.gif I mean, the problem here is that your CMV is what happens "usually." Well yeah, "usually" women get to know a guy over a long (I define long as anything over …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 07:02 AM
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It's funny that when you're called upon to DEMONSTRATE your supposed achievements (just in private with pics), you back off and complain more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 09:59 PM
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PM me if you're serious about talking. Have pics ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 09:50 PM
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Every woman who is a 7 or 8 online responds huh? I don't believe you. I believe that maybe women in the 4-6 range respond favorably. Like, experiments have been done on this and on response rates. Even moderately attractive men (that'd be a male 7-8) have response rates of like 20% and 2nd reply rates of like 2-5%. So I ask again...is everyone lying? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 09:49 PM
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There is no changing this view. The whole idea of shit testing is fucking retarded. You're getting shit because she doesn't think you're on her level. That's it, that's all. And honestly, if a chick starts being rude to you --> walk off, never to be heard from again. I have no idea why guys just hang on and linger in interactions where the woman is just tooling them. The same thing goes for flaking. It happens, but it just means SHE. IS. NOT. THAT. INTO. YOU. Delete her contact info and move on …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 08:10 PM
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Lol this is the funniest troll... But if not, give me a pm of what you look like and we can go from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 07:59 AM
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And no 7-8 dont go 1/100. Most guys who successfully on online through places like OKC and POF almost all get a date within the first 50 messages. Yeah dude, Paul Janka is just making it up. Chris from GLL is making it up. Several other real life good-looking guys are all just making shit up, right? Keep in mind, the guys I mentioned are like real life 9-10's. When you are just cold calling chicks (which is pretty much what online dating is for guys if you're going to be efficient about it), tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:38 AM
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Look I'm not gonna get shredded I'm not trying to break you down, I'm just telling you that there seems to be a divergence between what you say you've accomplished and what you actually have, and that is why your results aren't quite there. You don't need to run or do any of that shit to get shredded. Just watch your diet and cut and maintain as much muscle as you can. Easy. Yes I think after3 nights of speed dating and 200 messages sent on on pretty much ever online dating sight to get 1 date. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 01:40 AM
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I didn't have abs but I dint think I was fat. lol dude. let me get through to you --- Good looking, tall, fit/muscular/shredded. Be TWO. You are not tall by default. Guess what you better put up on the board at the VERY LEAST ---> SHREDDED. You can't afford to NOT have abs. You can't afford to be just 'ok' in that area. Like, you are above the America average, which = fat fuck, but you are also WAY BELOW average when it comes to height. Put your body in the same right SD to the bell curve as you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 01:17 AM
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Face Height/Body (around the same) Money Status Power Money is before status because with money you can effectively buy status. And status is before power because you can gain power with status.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 12:52 AM
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This is the dude who cries about having improved himself to above average with no success. I don't believe you. PM me a pic so I can gauge how 'in shape' you are. First of all, if you're 5'3 natty 160 pounds, you are FAT. Sorry charlie. Ain't no way you're a shredded 5'3 7% BF 160lb natty dude (and I'd still give the side eye if you just used some roids, even). Second of all, I am not imagining (through your words, mindset, posts) a guy who dresses particularly well or walks with any amount of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 12:48 AM
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This poster has admitted several times that he has NOT TALKED to women. Please do not listen to him. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 12:45 AM
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I'm not underestimating it. I actually know what it is and you clearly don't. The fact that you refer to it as "a gene" lets me know that you're talking way out of your ass. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:33 PM
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No, it's nutrition. Genes have not changed much if at all in the hundred or so years average height has been increasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:28 PM
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So much so that the average height is increasing with every generation Has nothing to do with genes. So silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:23 PM
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Being short does not mean you will have short children. Lmfao. With h2 in the .8-.9 range, yes...being short likely does mean you will have short children. Wtf. This thread, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:22 PM
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It's not a 'rare recessive gene.' Height is definitely a complex of many thousands of genes. And as you indicate, pleiotropy is a huge factor as well. So it's funny how confident you are about this 'rare recessive gene' theory when there is precisely zero evidence supporting it. Further, if height were strongly selected for by women, even with the addition of 'shorter women,' the variation in male height would decrease --- taller men would simply mate with more women short and tall and outreprod…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:18 PM
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