mechajutaro Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
1	Dealing with Feminists, Without driving yourself insane	Edu./Occu.	mechajutaro	/r/MensRights	24/07/22 11:55 AM

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1	I’m genuinely tired of seeing men being put down just because of our gender Public opinions won't change as long as our idea of "taking action" never extends very far beyond griping on social media. The barbarically overlooked and underrated Asa Baber warned us about going down this road back in '94 https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ , and The MRM has been ignoring his sage counsel since it first arose in '14. We've got to start getting out from behind our keyboards, and knocking on doors in neighborhoods throughout the nation, for the express purpose of sellin…	/r/MensRights	02/10/22 08:29 AM
2	Question Become a famous rapper. No one will be surprised to read that you boned a chick who only a couple of years ago still had baby teeth in her jaws	/r/MensRights	02/10/22 08:23 AM
0	Honey Badgers Female Viewership has greatly increased I don't understand how some interpret MGTOW as being always on your own. That's what famous supposed MGTOWs like Paul Elam have been prescribing for their congregations("Modern women are entitled and narcissistic, unlike they were in The Golden Age that was The 1950s. Well, at least the 1950s depicted in shows like Leave It To Beaver and Ozzie And Harriet"), despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of them are themselves married, granted at least a few of those marriages(such as Elam's)…	/r/MensRights	02/10/22 08:21 AM
1	Honey Badgers Female Viewership has greatly increased For a gaggle of folks who claim to be "going their own way" folks like Paul Elam(star of Cassie Jaye's documentary The Red Pill, and the most famous MRA on the planet)have a relentless fixation on what the rest of the planet is doing. The sooner we write these folks off as the professional malcontents that they are, who at best have been 1/8 correct about a handful of things, ala. Micheal Moore's critique of The US government( http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20040702.html http://www.spinsanity…	/r/MensRights	02/10/22 08:14 AM
1	Honey Badgers Female Viewership has greatly increased At least a few self-proclaimed MGTOWs like Paul Elam are themselves married men, albeit many of these marriages(including Elam's)are common law. These fellas are the male equivalent of Andrea Dworkin, who preach "A man needs a woman like a fish needs a bicycle" from the pulpit, will enjoying unions of their own. We've been refraining from calling them out on their hypocrisy for entirely too long	/r/MensRights	01/10/22 02:58 AM
3	MRA being totally misrepresented on TV show The most hilarious aspect of The MSM's paranoia over The MRM is that there really is no movement to speak of. MRAs remain a subculture that exist almost entirely online, with very little presence on the ground out in reality. AVFM and HBR grow less socially relevant with each passing day, and NCFM's national headquarters is a shadow of it's glory days in The 80s, when prominent movie stars like Gregory Hines and Fortune 500 CEOs where regularly appearing at their soirees	/r/MensRights	01/10/22 01:02 AM
39	Woman cleared of Rape - If you still had doubts about equality Equality doesn't exist on a social level, and never has. This is of lesser importance than securing equality before the law where we don't yet have it, gaining equality of opportunity, and then safeguarding those things. There's likely never going to be a day where the courts don't sometimes give breaks to attractive female defendants, or that fathers don't have to work a little bit harder to demonstrate that they're fit to be in the lives of their children than mothers do	/r/MensRights	30/09/22 08:44 AM
2	Time For Left To ADMIT Boys, Men Are In CRISIS We can't keep waiting for any side of the political spectrum to admit, without us placing political pressure on The Powers That Be, that men are just as much a part of this civilization as women are. We've been hanging out on the zoo that it is The Internet since '14, jumping up and down, and throwing ape shit all over the place in the hopes that this will bring about progress It hasn't come to pass, kids. Paul Elam and the rest of The MRM's leadership mistook their fellow buffoon Donald Trump f…	/r/MensRights	29/09/22 10:51 PM
-4	The Everyday Hatred of Men: Hegemonic Masculinity We've done a swell job of taking apart intellectual hokum like Hegemonic Masculinity. The challenge now is for us to have the courage and integrity to engage in intense self-reflection, by digging into this notion of Gynocentrism, and admitting that it's no less of a hollow buzzword than all the jargon one gets out of The Woke Left	/r/MensRights	29/09/22 06:22 AM
1	Are we sleepwalking into a male mental health crisis? Your comment makes no sense as you are telling me what I think. Feel free to share your definition and conceptualization of what The Red Pill is then And you’re wrong Just saying something doesn't make it true, especially if you don't provide damning evidence to back up your assertion. Otherwise, saying "And you're wrong" is the equivalent of saying "You're wrong when you say Jesus didn't rise from the dead. It's true, because my dogma dictates that it's true" And nobody calls themselves a “tr…	/r/MensRights	28/09/22 10:01 PM
1	Are we sleepwalking into a male mental health crisis? I've no doubt that you and everyone else who describes themselves as Red Pill believes that you're definition of that term is The Truth, even though every Red Piller has a different definition and concepuatlaxizition of TRP The theory starts crumbling, the minute we start digging into jargon like "Gynocentrism(Red Pill Theory's equivalent to The Woke notion of White CIS Hegemony. There terms can mean anything, or nothing, and thus get hurled at everything we find objectionable), and asking True …	/r/MensRights	28/09/22 06:28 AM
-1	"Tim Cook: 'No good excuse' for lack of women in tech". How about, for example, more females than males being more interested in other subject areas (and fields of employment). These sorts of statements can lead to males being put at a disadvantage/being discriminated against/more help for females. What do Tims Pool, Curry, and Matheson say about all of this though?	/r/MensRights	27/09/22 10:07 PM
1	Back on Popp Has Terrence Popp expanded his repertoire beyond exaggerating his military record and peddling MGTOW as not just a lifestyle choice, but an ideology?	/r/MensRights	27/09/22 09:38 PM
1	The Goal Post Episode 06 – What Men Do Sad that it's taken card-carrying MRAs this long to realize that highlighting all the ways that men benefit civilization is vital to winning public support for legal and policy reforms they claim they're trying to achieve. For the better part of it's history, this current iteration of The MRM has conceptualized itself as being apart from and beyond so-called Blue Pill Norm-ie society..... Aka. All the rest of us mere mortals whom folk like Paul Elam, Karen Straughan, Alison Tieman, Brian Martine…	/r/MensRights	27/09/22 08:40 PM
1	The definition of feminism Anyone can label themselves anything, be it a Christian, a feminist, or a libertarian. That's of lesser importance than what people say and do on a regular basis. There's no shortage of Christians who's love of justice and mercy entails them perpetrating genocide on anyone who's not a Christian or who isn't-in their view anyway-properly Christian. More than a few self-identified libertarians had their mouths wrapped intractably around Donald Trump's flaccid penis, from '16-'20, even though his s…	/r/MensRights	27/09/22 07:59 PM
1	Are we sleepwalking into a male mental health crisis? Big man Or so he thought.... Pretty much. When one starts pressing The Woke and The Red Pilled alike to define jargon like Systemic Racism and Gynocentrism, then interrogating the basis of their belief in such things, their respective ideologies crumble	/r/MensRights	27/09/22 07:37 PM
-1	Iran protests for women's rights: Men taking most of the risks, as usual. Less than 1/10 of the arrested are women. This was a protest over the murder of a human being at the hands of a tyrannical and undemocratic regime, who happened to be a woman. This wasn't a protest for women's rights. The fact that we haven't had people here in The US out in the streets demonstrating like this whenever some college kid(who frequently happens to be male)commits suicide, after being expelled following a run-in with a campus Title IX star chamber, is testament to just how ineffective The MRM has been at making "men's issue…	/r/MensRights	27/09/22 02:43 AM
2	Are we sleepwalking into a male mental health crisis? Mental health care for everyone(men and women alike)is in lousy shape, thanks to a dearth of providers who are thoroughly trained in the only form of psychotherapy which has any empirical support: Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and all of it's many branches. Don't anticipate Generically Red Pill folk(including most of today's prominent MRAs )to display any more enthusiasm than True Believers in Woke Thought have shown for getting more shrinks trained in CBT though, The cornerstone of this modality…	/r/MensRights	27/09/22 12:51 AM
2	UK - Advice At this point, if you don't have much in the way of physical evidence against her, you don't have much of a case. You can channel your experiences into organizing on the ground to campaign for amending laws and policies which currently approach DV as if it's something only men do to women. Keep us posted as to your efforts	/r/MensRights	27/09/22 12:23 AM
1	The "Not fully matured until 25" argument is infuriating Let's call the rockstars of The MRM out for their role in perpetuating this stereotype. Shit like Paul Elam vomitting up gender-baiting clap trap like "Women, Stop Asking To Be Raped", all for the express purpose of drawing attention to himself/feeding an ego that's ten times the size of his Gunt(yet infinitely more fragile than said Gunt), and getting up on bandwagons like GamerGate and Comicsgate did the exact opposite of defying all the unflattering tropes about men in our culture. We could a…	/r/MensRights	27/09/22 12:06 AM
3	What would you do if you discovered you were dating a Feminist? Paraphrase the barbarically forgotten Asa Baber, in his article "Sisters and Shrews": If she's what someone might call a classic feminist(she believes in equality before the law and unhindered access to opportunity for everyone, regardless of gender), there's no conflict. Unless you're the sort of guy who fancies himself "an ally", and who speaks almost exclusively in Woke jargon, you probably aren't going to be happy with a chick who's takes everything she hears on The Take as Holy Writ	/r/MensRights	26/09/22 11:33 PM
-3	New Podcast "Justice For Marilyn Manson" Going Over Details of the Case Well that’s like saying to a woman what were you wearing? Oh well that’s why you got assaulted because you were looking open to it in those clothes The 19 year old co-ed who's a dead ringer for Sydney Sweeney and walks naked through a bike bar is putting herself in danger that's easily avoidable. We don't help anyone, by refusing to acknowledge such things Depps lifestyle had nothing to do with it Dude admitted multiple times during his testimony in Depp V Heard to being s deeply psychological…	/r/MensRights	26/09/22 11:26 PM
0	New Podcast "Justice For Marilyn Manson" Going Over Details of the Case If they avoid going the route of trying to portray Manson as a hardworking guy who was doing his best, only to get waylaid by a psycho bitch, and instead present him as a case study in all the ways that trying to be an edge lord extraordinaire is likely to come back to bite a guy in the ass-especially if he persists in doing that shit when he's long past the age of 18-all the better. Lately, I've noticed that The MRM has been emulating The Woke Left yet again, by holding Marilyn Manson and Johnn…	/r/MensRights	26/09/22 10:45 PM
1	Men and relationship to spirituality A superb article on this subject was published on Askmen.com, during happier days before they'd gone Woke on us in '16 https://www.askmen.com/money/body_and_mind/8_better_living.html	/r/MensRights	26/09/22 10:33 PM
-3	Homeless non-men will receive basic income in Denver, Colorado. There's a larger problem here that transcends gender https://www.wnyc.org/story/strengthening-welfare-work-system/ https://www.city-journal.org/html/what-i-learned-poverty-war-13513.html * If flagship MRA organizations like AVFM and HBR were serious about making progress, they'd have shunned any and all associations with modern day side-show attractions Carl Benjamin, Stefan Molyneux, Count Dank-ula, and some other loser who goes by Regan, in favor of partnering up with folks like Peter Cove and…	/r/MensRights	26/09/22 10:27 PM
-51	How a limp dick can save the world Quote the article: "Social and sexual. In particular, men are constantly told their sexuality is depraved, damaging, disturbing, and demonic." Here in The US, this isn't just true for us men. Women also get conflicting messages about sexuality: Too skillful in bed, they're sluts. Not enthusiastic or adroit enough at satisfying a guy in the boudoir, they're boring prudes. As long as we keep approaching these social problems as gendered ones, rather than human problems that affect men and women al…	/r/MensRights	22/09/22 03:47 AM
-1	I don't know how I feel anymore I can't recommend distinguinging thoughts from emotions enough: https://www.wildmind.org/applied/depression/distinguishing-thoughts-and-emotions Under the leadership of folk like Paul Elam(who supposedly has a degree in psychology. Curiously, on his Linkedin page, he lists his alma mater, but not what sort of degree he has. Given the shallowness of much of his thinking, we must infer that it's either an associates or bachelors. Or that he left a few credits short of actually graduating), entirel…	/r/MensRights	21/09/22 09:04 PM
-8	Men have fewer friends than ever, and it’s harming their health Men have fewer friends than ever, and it’s harming their health Let's call The Mansophere out for its role in all of this. Entirely too many of us have been retreating into fantasy worlds of video games and YouTube videos, then when reading headlines like the ones in The OP and screeching "Look!!! This is another example of how feminism/Gynocentrism/Cultural Marxism has done us in!!! The fact that we ourselves aren't getting out from behind our keyboards, and spending more time meeting up in p…	/r/MensRights	21/09/22 06:59 PM
2	Should the masculinity of men in relationships with mega-feminists be questioned? Should the masculinity of men in relationships with mega-feminists be questioned? No. Their sanity is far more questionable than their masculinity is	/r/MensRights	20/09/22 06:17 PM
5	WHAT KIND OF MOVEMENT WILL SUPPORT KINGS REDUCED SUDDENLY TO PAUPERS? (Apparently all men were kings before feminism...) Quote the article: "Some men have always been wretched. It only took the internet to make it obvious." Let's concede that the most prominent figures within The MRM deliberately went out of their way to personify all the stereotypes about MRAs. Folks like Paul Elam, the failed artists over at HBR, and their drinking buddies like Carl Benjamin have presented themselves as societal dropouts and bitter, neckebearded man-babies, who spend their every waking moment glued to their keyboards, griping en…	/r/MensRights	20/09/22 06:15 PM
1	For the love of women Accountability. That's a good word and focus on. And it takes out a decent amount of the anger and hatred for even mentioning women not being mature, or treating men (or themselves) right Since about '14, the year that video was shot, The MRM's primary emphasis has been harping on all the ways women need to change, while displaying very little enthusiasm for discussing what our goals are, and putting forth viable strategies for achieving them. Do we seriously think that continuing to tell women …	/r/MensRights	20/09/22 04:08 PM
1	For the love of women In that video, he mimics prominent MRAs like Paul Elam and Alison Tieman by asserting that "Society needs to change before we men so much as contemplate getting out from behind our keyboards and taking sociopolitical action out in our neighborhoods and communities, aka. The Place Where Societal Change Really Occurs. Women need to grow up, and become radically different than what they are, and always have been, before we launch political campaigns around subjects like making shared parenting legi…	/r/MensRights	20/09/22 04:02 PM
-1	Women Viewing Men as Dogs Paul Elams publication was in response to these kinds of feminist hate speech, reversing the genders to show the hypocracy of the authors and publishers. Fairly certain that this was yet another portion of Tom Leykis's act that he ripped off. Dude likens himself to Malcolm X and Stoke-ly Carmichael. Really though, he's a bizarre hybrid of Dennis Leary and Andrea Dworkin, who's done about as much as the latter has to further the cause of liberty for one and all	/r/MensRights	19/09/22 02:33 AM
1	Stupid question but I am a teenage girl and wondering if its acceptable for me to be a MRA? If you take people like Karen Straughan, she's responsible for a lot of people becoming aware of male issues, first hand a'd second hand. You can see plenty of MRAs using her talking points without even knowing thry originate from her or have been spread by her. None of the talking points we've heard out of Straughan and the rest of The MRM are remotely original. Folks have been talking about this stuff, loooooooong before The MRM came to prominence in the mid-10s https://reason.com/1994/07/01/m…	/r/MensRights	18/09/22 03:33 AM
23	Perspective: The real reason the all-women workspace failed Identity politics and the free market are incompatible as bedfellows. This is almost as incomprehensible as learning that Emily Ratajokowski's political views, as expressed in her book My Body, don't extend very far beyond nattering on about how much she loves wearing lace thongs. Presumably on those rare occasions in which she wears clothes at all	/r/MensRights	18/09/22 02:40 AM
11	Women Viewing Men as Dogs One of those books was titled "How Men Are Like Dogs. And How To Love Them". Without reading the content, it's tough to see how that title in and of itself is derogatory. Insofar as the rest of those titles go..... Paul Elam, the most famous MRA on the planet, put out a video on his YT channel titled "How To Train A Woman Like A Dog" Are we going to display moral symmetry, by calling The Grand Ayatollah Of Red Pill Theology and his Kool Aid drinkers out for being " patently disrespectful toward …	/r/MensRights	18/09/22 02:32 AM
1	Divorcing a King – Eleanor of Aquitaine #1 – Extra History Politics is downstream from culture. Politicians won't care until the community cares. We're in semi-agreement here: Knocking on doors in neighborhoods around the nation, and persuading a large cross-section of the public to support our goals, by connecting men's issues to problems like the economy, access to upward mobility, and keeping crime rates low is the sort of sociopolitical action which changes the culture. As you say, politicians won't have have any incentive to change their behavior, …	/r/MensRights	17/09/22 10:03 PM
1	Stupid question but I am a teenage girl and wondering if its acceptable for me to be a MRA? I don't really know how to do all of this! Welcome to the club, Marisa!!! We're all muddling our way through this stuff, without much a roadmap. One place to start.... Check out this video on field organizing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npdU0jq8NFg&t=1246s You/we can apply many of these same tactics to drumming up public support for reforms like making shared parenting legislation the law of the land, ending The Drug War, and providing greater access to vocational training than currently exi…	/r/MensRights	17/09/22 06:59 PM
1	Stupid question but I am a teenage girl and wondering if its acceptable for me to be a MRA? Focus on school. And don't pay too much attention to the people like above that talk about "actually doing something" as if raising awareness wasn't important. It's the equivalent of whispering "The entire building is on fire" in the middle of a crowded shopping center on a Saturday afternoon, unless this awareness raising is attached to a viable strategy of some sort. What we've been doing since '15 is the equivalent of the way most psychotherapy works. We drone on endlessly about all the thing…	/r/MensRights	17/09/22 06:05 PM
1	Divorcing a King – Eleanor of Aquitaine #1 – Extra History Fascinating history, much in the same way that it's intriguing to read folks on The Woke Left provide detail the effects that White Flight during The 1960s had on public schools in non-white communities. The question to both The Generically Red Pilled and The Woke alike remains though: What's the connection between things like this, and waging tooth and nail political fights for things like shared parenting legislation, ending a war on drugs which disproportionately locks up men, and providing g…	/r/MensRights	17/09/22 04:11 AM
6	Stupid question but I am a teenage girl and wondering if its acceptable for me to be a MRA? Don't sweat labelling yourself anything. The handful of female MRAs out there haven't done much to help men who are in need in any material way, and trade almost exclusively in shrieking "I'm a broad who's also an anti-feminist!!!" on social media, then pretending that theatrical gestures like these make a difference out in reality You can help by organizing as many folks as you can(women and men alike), in the service of agitating for reforms like making shared parenting legislation the law of …	/r/MensRights	17/09/22 03:58 AM
-14	Why are "nice guys" continuously bashed, but freeloader girls seem to be perfectly fine? This is not advocating in favor of "nice guys". You know the type, ugly unkept loser who thinks he's entitled to pussy just because he said to some hot chick "you're beautiful" in DMs. You just described to a T many of The MRM's most prominent figures. including the most famous MRA on the planet, Paul Elam. Dude admits that he tried to be a PUA(note: He wasn't simply trying to learn how to be more attractive to the opposite sex. He set out to make scoring a piece of ass the primary focus of hi…	/r/MensRights	17/09/22 12:58 AM
0	Johnny Depp Is BREAKING Down Barriers For MALE DV Victims In one of those Regarding Men videos that used to appear on An Ear For Men, Elam, Golden, and Fiamengo both treated Harvey Weinstein as if he was no different from The Duke Lacrosse players who were falsely accused of rape by a stripper. The fact that defending a guy who's on audiotape attempting to blackmail more than a couple of people into having sex with him, and who also physically assaulted a reporter who wrote something he didn't like(this reporter was also a man)doesn't reflect well on T…	/r/MensRights	17/09/22 12:47 AM
-5	Johnny Depp Is BREAKING Down Barriers For MALE DV Victims This is a bad example. Him and Amber were both fucked Yeah. Sadly, The MRM has long been emulating The Woke Left, by defending every man accused of a crime, especially a crime against a woman, regardless of the circumstances and the facts. Much in the same way folks like Micheal Eric Dyson and Nicole Hannah Jones refused to distinguish between Tamir Rice and Mike Brown. Whenever someone encourages prominent figures within The Woke Left and The MRM alike to be more cagey in whom we defend, he or …	/r/MensRights	16/09/22 08:33 PM
0	Johnny Depp Is BREAKING Down Barriers For MALE DV Victims This might break down barriers for men who've been the target of DV. It may also be rapidly forgotten as the public's attention shifts to the latest scandal in Tinseltown. We rely on this case to be game changer at our own peril. Depp's been a prominent actor for decades, and he'd acquired enough public affection for opinion to swing back in his direction fairly swiftly. This isn't true for the other 99% of us though. We're going to have to take legit sociopolitical action out in our neighborhoo…	/r/MensRights	16/09/22 08:27 PM
0	Critics Tell Young Men that Their Penises are NOT Golden (But They Are!) Retreat into fantasy is all that is left when reality is so shite: it's likely part of our natural psychological defense mechanisms. Let's not forget to treat a binary thought like "Life is so shite" as a hypothesis, that must be tested for falsifiability. Let's provide specific examples of what makes life here in '22 the living hell that so many activists today(MRAs included)claim it is, and then ask "Is that a 100% true?" If it turns out that the world is a deeply flawed place, which is noneth…	/r/MensRights	16/09/22 01:28 PM
3	Critics Tell Young Men that Their Penises are NOT Golden (But They Are!) Men without social skills - this is the result of: Let's not forget the advent of social media and, along with it, The Manosphere and The Church Of The Red Pill. For all of it's good intentions, entirely too many of us are retreating into fantasy worlds online, then acting surprised that our external environments aren't changing in the way we'd like them to	/r/MensRights	15/09/22 10:35 PM
1	Critics Tell Young Men that Their Penises are NOT Golden (But They Are!) Yeah. What todays MRAs usually leave out when they're caterwauling over this particular disparity: -It's nothing new https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ Men have statistically ALWAYS opted for military service, trade school, or work after K-12 more than they have a four year university -76% of all Americans, male AND female alike, have little to no secondary education. And a large percentage of these folks have no desire to attend a four year university, and would prefer some sort of v…	/r/MensRights	15/09/22 10:30 PM
1	Critics Tell Young Men that Their Penises are NOT Golden (But They Are!) Quote the article: "But now it turns out that some women themselves are not entirely happy with the deal feminists engineered for them, which sees them outnumbering men at close to 3-2 at most English-speaking universities, and thousands of words have already been devoted to the idea that college women deserve a more satisfactory dating experience." Let's note that whenever someone has encouraged the folks running flagship MRA organizations like AVFM and HBR to modify our line of attack("Let's…	/r/MensRights	15/09/22 10:20 PM
0	The Red Pill Raw Files – Is Male Disposability the Fault of Patriarchy? – Dr. Warren Farrell & Paul Elam Let's acknowledge that Male Disposability is about as meaningful as Woke buzzwords like Systemic Racism and Emotional Labor. Until we start telling the public what our goals are, in Plain Language rather than Manosphere jargon, we won't be seeing much progress Ex. Reducing workplace deaths via technological advancements, improved training, and providing folks who are stuck in low-wage labor like working at the slaughter house with the skills required to transition into higher paying, less deadly…	/r/MensRights	15/09/22 01:57 AM
1	It’s time to open to door to discussing the TRUTH behind SA and who is classified as a victim And give Teddy Pendergrass demerits, for encouraging us to the exact opposite of opening the door	/r/MensRights	14/09/22 12:59 AM
3	Canada's First International Conference on Men and Families is next week. PLUS: We're celebrating one year at Toronto's first domestic violence shelter for fathers and children. Ask Me Anything, this Tuesday, September 13 at 8:30pm EDT I think CAFE has been successful due in large part to its unique positioning. We are self-consciously careful to keep ourselves away from either side of the political or ideological spectrum. Yeah. The state of men's advocacy today mirrors the rift that's characterized The Gay Rights Movement from the get-go https://monthlyreview.org/2001/05/01/the-queergay-assimilationist-split/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuTNXnQA-ww 28:00-forward Here in The US, flagship MRA organizations like AVFM and …	/r/MensRights	14/09/22 12:57 AM
1	Wouldn’t viewing a random man on the street as a threat be sexist / misandrist? Yeah. There's an entire separate conversation to be had here, regarding the corruption of so much our language. Words like "racist", "sexist", "misogynistic", "misandric", "mindfulness", "judgmental/nonjudgmental".... These and many other words have taken such elastic definitions, they're all but meaningless here in '22 It's prudent for us to get back to saying what we mean, and meaning what we say, with sentences like "I think you refused to call that person in for a job interview because of th…	/r/MensRights	14/09/22 12:20 AM
-7	Wouldn’t viewing a random man on the street as a threat be sexist / misandrist? That's the byproduct of bias, in the same way white hipsters clutching their purses when a black person walks into Trader Joe's is the byproduct of bias. Is it sexist towards women do this around men? Yeah. Is it misandrist/hate of men? No	/r/MensRights	13/09/22 09:53 PM
-1	TIL about men's rights activist Janice Fiamengo. Want to spread the word. Nah. I'm calling on us to acknowledge that The MRM is dead, and for whatever of left of it to evolve into something more politically powerful. That's part of the strategy, though certainly not all of it	/r/MensRights	13/09/22 09:20 PM
-1	TIL about men's rights activist Janice Fiamengo. Want to spread the word. For starters, we could benefit immensely from someone performing a public autopsy on The MRM itself, similar to the one Shellenberger and Nordhaus performed on environmentalism a while back https://www.npr.org/2005/03/18/4541344/the-death-of-environmentalism https://grist.org/article/doe-reprint/ Title instead being "The Death Of The Men's Rights Movement: Advocacy Around Men's Issues, In A World That's Post-MRM" Given the stagnation that the movement has found itself in since '20, we must now t…	/r/MensRights	13/09/22 07:36 PM
1	The Girl Boss Paradox - Why Empowered Women Are Miserable - Aydin Paladin Glad you made it through that entire video without skipping around. She could've saved herself a lot of trouble, by acknowledging that the Girl Boss trope has already been eviscerated by everyone from vanilla feminists like Cathy Young, to devout Third Wavers like Jessa Crispin and the folks over at The Take. There isn't much left to say about women who are naive enough to try and be Meryl Streep's character in TDWP, much as there isn't much left to say about guys in the military back in '06, an…	/r/MensRights	13/09/22 07:27 PM
-2	The Girl Boss Paradox - Why Empowered Women Are Miserable - Aydin Paladin The chick who wrote that comic mentioned in the first few minutes of this video exaggerated and fabricated details of her life. Wannabe artistes on social media doing such things has never been heard of, prior to now. We here at The MRM are extraordinarily fortunate that our leaders have evolved beyond engaging in this sort of brazen mendacity themselves, all while they're tut-tutting at The Woke Left for failing to practice the values that they preach It's not been the case for example, that th…	/r/MensRights	13/09/22 07:21 PM
-1	TIL about men's rights activist Janice Fiamengo. Want to spread the word. Unless the person talking is providing the audience with a viable strategy to act on, he or she is providing entertainment., and passing it off as activism. Most MRAs today are more akin to the political talk show hosts of yesteryear, only difference being that MRAs are on YouTube, rather than on the radio. We've all made the mistake of thinking folks like Fiamengo, Paul Elam, Karen Straughan, Alison Tieman, Brian Martinez, Hannah Wallen, Stefan Molyneux, and Carl Benjamin make a difference out …	/r/MensRights	13/09/22 06:48 PM
8	Happy 125th Anniversary, Ladies Day Riot Quote the article: "Despite the 1897 riot, Ladies Day did not disappear from baseball. The promotion, however, has been null and void since 1973 when the New York Human Rights Commission ruled that Ladies Day was reverse discrimination, and free or discounted admission to femme fans at New York ballparks was taboo. Other teams took the hint and ended the promotions In subsequent years it was not unusual for giveaways to discriminate (i.e., some free stuff for men, some for women) but that too ha…	/r/MensRights	13/09/22 03:20 PM
1	Why SCUM Manifesto (Valerie Solanas) isn't banned? If that's the case, much of Paul Elam(the most famous MRA on the planet)'s work is also going to be banned, right alongside this broad's book. Constricting free speech never just affects one's enemies alone	/r/MensRights	13/09/22 12:15 PM
0	TIL about men's rights activist Janice Fiamengo. Want to spread the word. Why is Fiamengo considered an activist? Her lone claim to fame is being an ex-university professor, who's gone all over YouTube letting everyone now how much of an anti-feminist she is? Last anyone checked, she's not engaged in on-the-ground activity, like agitating for increased access to vocational training(something that would benefit impoverished men more than anyone), getting The Duluth Model replaced with empirically validated treatment, or ending a drug war that overwhelmingly locks up me…	/r/MensRights	13/09/22 04:05 AM
1	I don’t understand why feminists still deny that women are the dominant group in todays society. Why do they deny that we no longer live in a patriarchy. I see stuff like this all the time in the mainstream and even on this ad on Reddit. We could benefit from Company Man performing a breakdown on The MRM like so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFivtOmXPPM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92fhfYUKi4o&t=624s Title being "The Decline Of The Men's Rights Movement" or "The Men's Rights Movement"	/r/MensRights	12/09/22 05:50 AM
5	There is no “heart” in the dating world for men I’ve grown up believing that being a good person, kind heart and confidence will mean you’re a good enough man to have a woman. Lots of us believed as you described at one time, just as many of us once believed that if you just worked hard and came in on time, you'd not simply get promoted out of the mail room and onto the reception desk, but rise to The C-Suites. As everyone from Doc Love, to Ross Jefferies, to Robert Glover, to David DeAngelo, Bobby Rio, Scott Mckay, Marni Kinrys, and Kecia No…	/r/MensRights	12/09/22 04:15 AM
2	no one lloks twice to help men. Unfortunately no one considers a man in need enough of a reason to donate and share a gofundme. It's sad. What leads you to believe that your gender is what's mostly responsible for people not donating to your gofundme. That seems like the sort of non-sequitur leap one hears out of Woke Warriors: "I didn't get hired because I was a woman/not white/gay. It had nothing to do with the fact the company declared bankruptcy the day after my interview, and ended up liquidating all their inventory the…	/r/MensRights	12/09/22 12:41 AM
2	Feminist academic paper: "Society would be better off as a whole if more women were willing to engage in justified violence against men" The sort of broads who write this drivel(a vanishingly small portion of the female population)can start gunning us men down, like a character in an Abel Ferrara movie, whenever they want. The Avengers aren't going to fall out the sky to stop them. They're going to regret their shenanigans fairly soon after though. Women aren't riding around picking up trash off of our streets, throwing the dope peddlers on the street corner in jail, and pulling snotty bitches who majored in gender studies out of…	/r/MensRights	11/09/22 10:54 PM
2	Gamma Bias In The Maintenance of Gynocentrism Gamma Bias In The Maintenance of Gynocentrism Let's all note that The Manosphere has effectively become a Gender Studies department that exists online, and substitutes words like "Gyoncentrism" for the feminist fever dream that is "The White CIS Male Hegemony", and "Cultural Marxism" for Woke notions like "Systemic Oppression". Going forward, we could benefit from embracing The Plain Language Movement, in the same way a small but growing number of folks in academia are https://www.theatlantic.…	/r/MensRights	11/09/22 08:08 PM
0	Time For A Change I'm saying that Red Pill Platitudes about who's The Gatekeeper of what are opaque writing at it's most egregious. Right down there with Woke jargon regarding slippery ideas like Systemic Racism and Intersectionality. I get that you didn't make up these Red Pill Platitudes, and that you're just repeating things you heard around The Manosphere. Ultimately though, our reliance on this sort of drivel is preventing us from gaining the support of a large cross section of America	/r/MensRights	11/09/22 06:52 PM
0	Time For A Change Evolution has made women the gatekeepers of sex. This makes perfect sense to me given the potential significant changes sex can mean for them. However, men are the gatekeepers of relationships. I can only infer that the Plain Language translation of this would read something like "Women decide whether or not a man can fuck them(well, heterosexual women anyway), but men voluntarily choose to stay with a woman vs leaving her". The Manosphere and The Woke Left alike could benefit immensely from lea…	/r/MensRights	11/09/22 05:28 PM
1	CALL IN SHOW! Could Conservatives Be Waking Up to Men's Issues? \| Brian's Badger Lodge [HBR] We won't achieve much progress, if we don't start forming ties with Republican and Demarcating leaders, starting at the local level. Thinking that Steve Crowder or Tucker Carlson giving the occasional shout out to men's issues on their shows ain't going to deliver much in the way of concrete, tangible gains	/r/MensRights	11/09/22 05:22 PM
2	CALL IN SHOW! Could Conservatives Be Waking Up to Men's Issues? \| Brian's Badger Lodge [HBR] I gave Martinez a compliment	/r/MensRights	10/09/22 06:04 PM
5	CALL IN SHOW! Could Conservatives Be Waking Up to Men's Issues? \| Brian's Badger Lodge [HBR] Self-described conservatives like Crowder, Fucker Carlson*, and earlier village buffoons like Rush Limbaugh, Dennis Prager, and Laura Schlesinger have been "Woke" to men's issues for eons already, granted most of their Woke-ness stems not so much from a desire to help men who are in need, but from their opposition to feminism. 40 plus years of Conservative talk show hosts being on our side hasn't translated into bringing us much material improvement to our circumstance; anyone who's betting his …	/r/MensRights	10/09/22 01:48 PM
2	CALL IN SHOW! Could Conservatives Be Waking Up to Men's Issues? \| Brian's Badger Lodge [HBR] The fact that card carrying MRAs have an encyclopedic knowledge of everything that's on Netflix, and have immersed themselves in every pop culture non-troversy imaginable(Gamergate, Comic's Gate, whatever melodrama is going in the realm of RPG games these days)goes far towards explaining why the movement never progressed beyond being a niche hobby, popular mostly with a handful of self-described freaks and artists on social media	/r/MensRights	10/09/22 12:47 PM
12	Canada's First International Conference on Men and Families is next week. PLUS: We're celebrating one year at Toronto's first domestic violence shelter for fathers and children. Ask Me Anything, this Tuesday, September 13 at 8:30pm EDT This is heartening to read. Hope it goes well. And I also pray that future advocates around "men's issues" follow the example you're setting, by A). Not treating men's issues as if they exist separately from the problems which ail our society as a whole and B). Not going the way of flagship MRA organizations like AVFM and HBR, which began to emulate The Woke Left and it's fondness for speaking in jargon and mulling over vague, slippery ideas, while having very little enthusiasm for taking sociop…	/r/MensRights	10/09/22 12:40 PM
0	I don’t understand why feminists still deny that women are the dominant group in todays society. Why do they deny that we no longer live in a patriarchy. I see stuff like this all the time in the mainstream and even on this ad on Reddit. That makes sense actually, our packaging as a whole isn’t the most palatable. I wonder how we do that. I won't be so conceited or foolish to offer panaceas for what's a highly complex problem. Some thoughts though: One could today easily and aptly perform a public autopsy on The MRM, similar to the one Shellenberger and Nordhaus performed on environmentalism, in this still riveting essay https://www.npr.org/2005/03/18/4541344/the-death-of-environmentalism https://grist.org/article/doe-reprint/ T…	/r/MensRights	08/09/22 10:04 PM
5	Why SCUM Manifesto (Valerie Solanas) isn't banned? Unless we're talking threats of physical harm aimed at a specific individual, yeah, such speech is still protected	/r/MensRights	08/09/22 08:16 PM
-6	Just trying to be a father.. So no 20 years olds can be single parents or just men? it's not wise for people of any age to deliberately choose to raise kids on his or her own. Decades worth of evidence have demonstrated this. I don't of course fault anyone who's SO died, left, or ended up in prison Studies show men make just as good a single parent as women. Never denied that they/we do Should the 40% of children being raised by single mothers be taken away and given to couples? Lots of them do end up being taken away, …	/r/MensRights	08/09/22 08:13 PM
2	Period dignity officer takes legal action after losing job Quote the article: "His role was created to ensure the legal right to free period products in public places and was described as the first of its kind in Scotland." How is this a problem of rights, than a problem of public health, to begin with? This, and the fact that we're even creating public sector jobs like "period dignity officers" is a far more serious issues than whether or not a man or a woman holds such a job	/r/MensRights	08/09/22 04:47 PM
3	Celebrating diversity with eliminating all all (white) males from cabinet. Let's all heed Idris Elba's words on the subject: "Diversity of thought is more important than diversity of skin color, gender, or sexual orientation". All this diversity stuff becomes surprisingly uncomplicated and non-controversial, when we start aiming for diversity of thought, which really is valuable	/r/MensRights	08/09/22 04:44 PM
-11	Just trying to be a father.. If you are trying to adopt a newborn and you know that the father had filed a paternity action to get a DNA test and you STILL days later finalize the adoption what does this make you? Likely someone who has overlapping areas of agreement with MRAs, yet who also acknowledges a truth that most MRAs refuse to acknowledge: No 20 year old guy in his right mind wants a baby, and the fact that he's fighting for custody-rather then being honest enough to admit that he's not fit to raise a child-is in…	/r/MensRights	08/09/22 04:41 PM
1	I was lazily scrolling youtube shorts. Look at the comments on this one. How is this funny? Dunno, as you didn't include a link to the YouTube video that you found so upsetting. On a side note though: This YouTube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP-1WTZ2cWs actually provides us with a line of attack against insane, unjust laws that MRAs haven't yet even recognized, much less pursued. A couple of examples: 6:50-8:00 When this many Americans are this illiterate, why the hell have we confined ourselves to framing Affirmative Consent as being simply anti-male, rather than hammering t…	/r/MensRights	08/09/22 03:20 PM
11	Why SCUM Manifesto (Valerie Solanas) isn't banned? If we're serious about protecting free speech for one and all, that means even screeds that we find hurtful and disgusting, such as the SCUM Manifesto, cannot be suppressed	/r/MensRights	08/09/22 02:33 PM
15	As a young man in his twenties, I've found that no one really cares for you, not even your parents. You and only you are your ultimate caretaker. As a young man in his twenties, I've found that no one really cares for you, not even your parents. You and only you are your ultimate caretaker. Congratulate yourself for realizing this early in life. A substantial portion of our species never comes close to realizing what you've discovered. Yes, as a society it's preferable for us to not deny opportunities to anyone based on immutable characteristics like skin color, gender, ethnic background, or sexual orientation. It's up to all of us indivi…	/r/MensRights	08/09/22 10:35 AM
1	I don’t understand why feminists still deny that women are the dominant group in todays society. Why do they deny that we no longer live in a patriarchy. I see stuff like this all the time in the mainstream and even on this ad on Reddit. I just don’t understand how these voices become the leaders of these movements and influence millions of women to continue the delusion. It’s just irrational. Paraphrase David Hume: We humans have the capacity for rational thought, but in practice, we're mostly ruled by our passions. The awful truth is that we here at The MRM have tried to succeed by bludgeoning the general public with mountains of data, and then sulking when this alone doesn't translate into a broad cross section of society com…	/r/MensRights	08/09/22 10:29 AM
-1	AOC predicts she won’t ever be president — because Americans ‘hate women’ Her chances of ascending to The Oval Office would be stronger, had she accepted SI's proposal to appear in their Swimsuit Edition a couple of years back. By contrast, Kim Kardashian's prospects for winning the Presidency in a landslide victory are strong, if she makes good on her threat to run for office. She's been giving the public what they want, by giving us regular eyefuls of her assets for eons now, and subsequently she's already secured wide-spread public support	/r/MensRights	08/09/22 10:16 AM
0	The Red Pill Raw Files – Are Women More Discriminated Against? – Karen Straughan With the exception of Badger Live Streams, NONE of The MRM's rock stars are anywhere near as prolific as they were when the movement came into being in the mid-10s. Most likely explanation for this: The movement was an outgrown of a counterculture(The Anti-SJW clique on YouTube, namely)much in the same way Environmentalism was an outgrowth of The New Left of the late 60s-early 70s. Just as the end of the 60s and the early 70s translated into The Greens falling from glory and into the margins of …	/r/MensRights	08/09/22 10:09 AM
1	10 years after Karen Straughan's "Fempocalypse" video: societal collapse foretold, ignored and realized Straughan and many of her fellow MRAs have been emulating environmentalists since the earliest days of The MRM; trying to scare people into supporting their cause, by screeching "The End Is Nigh!!! Fall down on your knees, and repent for all the ways you've trashed the ecosystem/neglected men. Only this will prevent us from being consumed by the hellfire!!!" This approach did The MRM in even more rapidly than it sank Environmentalism Today, one could easily and aptly put together a documentary s…	/r/MensRights	08/09/22 09:42 AM
0	The Red Pill Raw Files – Are Women More Discriminated Against? – Karen Straughan Alcohol really just accentuates the average MRA's fondness for trying to SOUND smart, and in the process becoming yet another case study in all the sins Plain Language advocates("Try your damnedest to communicate in succinct, lucid sentences. Avoid verbose, convoluted language and jargon, such as this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C46rSIfTum4 )rail so fervently against I can only infer that Straughan was trying to say something like: "Our society is full of prejudices and biases toward everyth…	/r/MensRights	08/09/22 09:32 AM
-8	Kinda sick of things being celebrated for having less men/ white men. Why can’t it just be the best person for the job gets hired and be done! And yet feminists have managed to turn society against men based on an imaginary patriarchy... How's that work? There's a big difference between prejudice(there's lot of that towards men, for the simple fact that our society is rife with prejudice against everything that walks this Earth)and asserting that "society is against us". Prominent MRAs have spent every year since '15 conning gullible men into believing the latter	/r/MensRights	08/09/22 12:27 AM
0	I don’t understand why feminists still deny that women are the dominant group in todays society. Why do they deny that we no longer live in a patriarchy. I see stuff like this all the time in the mainstream and even on this ad on Reddit. Same reason a substantial portion of Americans still believe that an itinerant preacher from Galilee who lived during antiquity was God in the flesh, that he rose from the dead, and that he's going to return some day to bring about The Kingdom Of Heaven on Earth. Lots of folks just can't bear the thought of not having an absolute in their lives. Some get their kicks by mistaking everything in The Bible for unassailable truth, while still others tenaciously cling to the delusion that everything o…	/r/MensRights	07/09/22 09:22 PM
14	Kinda sick of things being celebrated for having less men/ white men. Why can’t it just be the best person for the job gets hired and be done! Kinda sick of things being celebrated for having less men/ white men. Why can’t it just be the best person for the job gets hired and be done! As everyone from Jeff Pfeffer to Robert Greene to Kevin Samuels(Peace Be Upon Him)have noted, life is NOT a meritocracy, and never has been. Activists(MRAs included)can bitch and moan about this all they want. Fact is though, once legal impediments are abolished, it's up to each of us to become politically savvy enough to move up in the world Feminists …	/r/MensRights	07/09/22 09:15 PM
1	Which area of life do you think is the most important one facing men and boys today? Yep. The top 5 worries of most men aren't that different from those of most Americans more generally: Having an abundant supply of nutritious food handy, accessing state of the art medical care, scoring solid housing in low-crime neighborhoods, and having enough money to enjoy a fruitful life. What I have noticed though, is that when everyday men share these worries with the most prominent figures in The MRM(most of whom are themselves upper middle class people living in bucolic corners of the g…	/r/MensRights	07/09/22 05:28 PM
1	Which area of life do you think is the most important one facing men and boys today? Which area of life do you think is the most important one facing men and boys today? Go ask most men in our neighborhoods and communities this question, and they'll give the standard "Norm-ie" replies that so many MRAs(the folks who claim to speak on our behalf)generally have nothing but contempt for: Getting well-paying jobs, solid housing, having pristine neighborhoods to live in, less tax money getting taken out of their pockets at the end of the year, and accessing state of the art health …	/r/MensRights	07/09/22 05:11 PM
1	Oranges vs Apples Given the stagnation that we find ourselves in, and a book length exploration on why the movement failed would be most enlightening	/r/MensRights	07/09/22 04:59 PM
13	Australia: Government ambulance service chooses femocrats over saving lives Why do men remain in Australia? The same reason men who were born and bred in The US, The UK, Canada, and France don't for the most part immigrate to other nations. We humans are at best ambivalent about leaving our comfort zones. These incidents alone won't change anything, you're right. Citizens are going to have take sociopolitical action out on the ground if they want to see reforms enacted. The advent of social media has left entirely too many of us that just griping about shit online will …	/r/MensRights	07/09/22 03:28 PM
33	Australia: Government ambulance service chooses femocrats over saving lives We'll continue to experience debacles like this, as long as we persist in treating "men's issues" as if they're separate from the problems which most ail our civilization as a whole. Our decision to prioritize APPEARING to be progressive over activity like healing the wounded harms everyone, not just men. Of those 33 people who died, it's a fair bet that they weren't all men or all women	/r/MensRights	07/09/22 01:22 PM
0	Oranges vs Apples i've mentioned on several threads here that one could today easily and aptly declare The MRM dead, much in the way Shellenberger and Nordhaus declared environmentalism dead back in '06( https://www.npr.org/2005/03/18/4541344/the-death-of-environmentalism ), and subject the entire movement to a public autopsy, similar to S&N's deconstruction of The Green Movement https://grist.org/article/doe-reprint/ Title instead being "The Death Of The Men's Rights Movement: Advocacy around men's issues, in a …	/r/MensRights	07/09/22 01:16 PM
1	I’m honestly getting tired of defending myself as a man The solution here is simple, albeit not easy: Stop being defensive, and stop saying "as a man", much in the same way Woke Warriors frame every conversation in terms such as "Well, as a fat, feminist, gender fluid, person of color, I feel like...." Take gender out of the equation, and start hammering these folks on the less than empirical nature of their beliefs Ex. “women aren’t safe around men” Let's add pesky things like context to the equation. If we're talking about a co-ed who's walking aro…	/r/MensRights	07/09/22 08:53 AM
2	The post feminist generation of women are starting to realize that the traditional male role sucks Post-Feminism has been around since at least 1919 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postfeminism#History_of_the_term Really sharp women have recognized the intellectual bankruptcy of Feminism for well over a century now. It's just regrettable that we men haven't yet caught up with the ladies, and started declaring ourselves Post-MRM	/r/MensRights	07/09/22 08:42 AM
2	Resumes with a female name were 41% more likely to receive a callback than resumes with a male name for software engineering jobs Precisely. I remember a study much like this one, but adjusted for racial bias. It used names like John, Jennifer, and Jane against DeShaniqua and other less well used names, to highlight racial bias in hiring. Of course, they concluded racial bias, but it didn't seem to occur to them that most of the higher-use names were Biblical and had been used for literally 1000s of years. Yeah. And still further research demonstrated that lots of decent-paying employers like the local T-Mobile shop have t…	/r/MensRights	06/09/22 07:10 PM
1	Resumes with a female name were 41% more likely to receive a callback than resumes with a male name for software engineering jobs The link you provided is also one study, and Yale is no more or less prone to error than anyone else is. If further research demonstrates that major tech companies around the nation are averse to hiring not only those candidates with names which are seen as "too masculine", but also those with names which are seen as "too feminine", then the assertion that this is all a case of systemic misandry collapses If Hunter McCracken and Leighton Danforth are both seeing their resumes go straight into th…	/r/MensRights	06/09/22 04:25 PM
2	Femanism coming for tech jobs We'll continue to experience defeats like this, as long as we keep framing "men's issues" as something that exists separately from the problems which face the nation more broadly. As pertain the article linked in The OP: That's not just a problem for men, but a decision that diminishes America's capacity to compete economically, in an era where we're facing unprecedented competition from overseas markets. Trying to make our corporations Woke thus harms everyone, men AND women alike	/r/MensRights	06/09/22 02:25 PM
1	A Woman’s Take On the Men’s Rights Movement She worries needlessly. The current iteration of The MRM is mostly a niche hobby among a handful of people on social media. The local chapters of NCFM are on the ground in various cities around the nation, helping men who are in need to help themselves, but that organization's national headquarters is a shadow of it's former glory days in the 1980s, when celebrities and Fortune 500 executives were showing up at their galas . We're not so much a a social movement as we are a subculture that's mos…	/r/MensRights	06/09/22 01:38 PM
1	Oranges vs Apples Quote the linked article: "There were a handful of women in the campaign who were very keen to use words like ‘barbaric’ and ‘mutilation’.", and "They told us it had to be mutilation — they felt that something stronger was needed. They practically brainwashed us into thinking that what happened to our bodies was so traumatising that we would never have a normal life like any other woman. It was like they were telling us we weren’t women, you know?" MRAs have emulated feminists, by deliberately u…	/r/MensRights	06/09/22 01:16 PM
1	Warren Farrell advocates for "gender transition" Agreed. No one's perfect. In the linked video, Farrell discusses walking around with with a picket sign reading "I refuse to be a success object", and goes on to say that he's "always been a success object". He never got around(and still hasn't)to treating that thought like the hypothesis that it is, and testing it for falsifiability. Ex. Yeah, women gravitate towards a man who displays the trappings of a solid provider and protector, just as mean gravitate towards a woman who displays signs of …	/r/MensRights	06/09/22 11:09 AM
-2	Warren Farrell advocates for "gender transition" This isn't surprising. Farrell has been fantasizing about giving our entire psychological overhaul since...well, the beginning of his career really https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJtxclegHL4 https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ One of the many things that did The MRM in almost from it's outset in '14 was their embrace of WF as The Patron Saint of the movement, who's words are to be treated as Holy Write and never subjected to interrogation. We haven't had an equivalent to the barbaricall…	/r/MensRights	06/09/22 02:09 AM
-1	Are there any resources for how to help child cope with his mother losing custody? I recently got full custody of my son and I’m having a hard time explaining why things happened the way they did while not going into detail. His mom has some significant mental health and substance abuse issues. Thx Sit down with him, and watch the first couple of season of 2 And A Half Men, Whenever Judith, Jon Cryer's ex, shows up, say to your son "That's what your mom was like, times 1,000. If you think that shit is grating to watch on screen, imagine being in bed with it on a regular basis". You'll have his unbridled compassion very rapidly	/r/MensRights	06/09/22 02:01 AM
4	How would you respond to "America is a patriarchy because we haven't had a female president"? We've got one right now. Does anyone seriously think that Creep Uncle Joe is running things in Washington?	/r/MensRights	06/09/22 12:24 AM
0	Opinions on feminist MRA’s? I've never met a chick who refers to herself as both a feminist and an MRA. Warren Farrell vacillates on this point, and seems to change his tune, depending on who's show he's on. Otherwise, what people call themselves is of less importance than what they do. Most self-identied MRAs today haven't show much enthusiasm for on the ground sociopolitical action, and have mostly confined themselves to griping about feminism/predicting The Apocalypse from behind the safe space of their keyboards. Wheth…	/r/MensRights	06/09/22 12:22 AM
-1	ICMI 21 Presentation by Robert Brockway. “Feminist Lies, Bad History and The Truth” Brockway could've saved himself trouble, by pointing out that "matriarchy" is as much of an empty fuzz word(to quote Camille Pag-lia) as "patriarchy" is. In any event, one is once again inclined to ask: What's the connection between bloated and portentous attempts at sounding academic like this, and us taking sociopolitical action around subjects like making shared parenting legislation the law of the land, ending a drug war which disproportionately locks up men, putting the under and unemployed…	/r/MensRights	05/09/22 08:31 PM
3	Anyone else noticing misandry in the workplace? Misandry, no. Bias, prejudice, and ignorance, yes. It's not just towards men either, but towards damn near everything that walks this Earth. This was true before the mid-10s, when all of this Woke and Red Pill shit began, and it will be true for as long as human beings exist	/r/MensRights	05/09/22 06:11 PM
1	Resumes with a female name were 41% more likely to receive a callback than resumes with a male name for software engineering jobs I never said that there was anything wrong with entry level work, drug counseling, or waiting tables. I've done this sort of work myself, as have most of us. We've got more serious problems than feminism though, if giving men who aren't doing well financially the tools to obtain upward mobility is now considered "snobbery". It's a problem when we've got content creators on YouTube(many of whom are prominent MRAs like Paul Elam, Karen Straughan, Alison Tieman, Brian Martinez, and we'll throw Carl…	/r/MensRights	05/09/22 06:07 PM
0	Resumes with a female name were 41% more likely to receive a callback than resumes with a male name for software engineering jobs Unless we can replicate the Yale study more than a couple of times, and there's no evidence that additional factors aren't leading to these tech firms being averse to hiring male software engineers, everything you've said is just your unfounded thoughts, man	/r/MensRights	05/09/22 05:41 PM
0	Younger Men Dating Older Women Yep. And just as more and more women in the mid-90s were becoming skeptical of feminist dogma after The Sex Wars which characterized the early part of the decade, younger chicks today are becoming increasingly skeptical of Intersectionalist Thought. History is rhyming yet again, even if not exactly repeating	/r/MensRights	05/09/22 03:59 PM
6	Younger Men Dating Older Women I've found the opposite. It's women who are 35+, who've never been married with a child, and who've had a handful of poisoned relationships with men who are just as douchey as they are who end up pivoting into Intersectionality. Younger women are pretty amenable to persuasion, provided that you're "being the man", taking the lead, and not flipping out the minute she says something mildly ignorant about men	/r/MensRights	05/09/22 03:53 PM
-5	Resumes with a female name were 41% more likely to receive a callback than resumes with a male name for software engineering jobs I can only presume that, like so many of us moderns, you have a highly elastic definition of "straw man", which pretty much gets hurled at everything that challenges your pre-existing beliefs. To date, no one's conducted asked the questions I've posed: Relatively few Americans of either gender go to university at all, much less a prestigious university which sets the odds in one's favor. Fewer men go to university compared to women. Of those men who did go to a prestigious university, how many o…	/r/MensRights	05/09/22 03:43 PM
-1	Resumes with a female name were 41% more likely to receive a callback than resumes with a male name for software engineering jobs Precisely. I remember a study much like this one, but adjusted for racial bias. It used names like John, Jennifer, and Jane against DeShaniqua and other less well used names, to highlight racial bias in hiring. The tragedy of The MRM is that we now have self-identified freaks and artists like Paul Elam, Karen Straughan, Alison Tieman, Brian Martinez, Hannah Wallen, Carl Benjamin, etc etc who either never got past entry level employment or who had been slumming it for decades in bottom-of-the b…	/r/MensRights	05/09/22 03:24 PM
1	What do you guys think of TBYS? I don't watch his channel religiously. From the videos I have seen though, he's mostly reguritatig standard Red Pill platitudes that have been floating around YouTube since about '15, much in the same way late night TV(with the possible exception of Conan O'Brien)has pretty much become one huge mouthpiece for all the Woke talking points one hears in the faculty lounge of most humanities departments around the nation Not only most men, but most everyday people of both genders likely have overlapp…	/r/MensRights	05/09/22 02:39 PM
0	Resumes with a female name were 41% more likely to receive a callback than resumes with a male name for software engineering jobs We don't know the full list of names used. We don't know how many names were used, why they used those names, and many more metrics. Yep. It wouldn't be surprising to learn that high-profile employers discriminate against not only those who have names which are "too masculine", but also names which are "too feminine" also. Thus, neither Hunter McCracken nor Leighton Danforth get invited in an interview for that tech strategist gig at Cisco, while David Rockhill and Amanda Schiffer are viewed w…	/r/MensRights	05/09/22 02:26 PM
-4	Resumes with a female name were 41% more likely to receive a callback than resumes with a male name for software engineering jobs It may turn out that the Yale study can be replicated, just as studies have consistently found over the past few decades that people with "ghetto sounding" names frequently have their resumes chunked, without so much as being read. Even here though, the picture gets more complex than what The Woke Warriors would have us believe("Systemic White Supremacy!!!! Nothing's changed since '65!!!! Things are just getting worse for non-whites in The US!!!"), once one digs a little deeper Just for starters…	/r/MensRights	05/09/22 02:16 PM
1	“Think before you sleep” YouTube channel - Good or Bad? There is a lot of crossover between men's rights and people who are for common sense because feminism is so anti-common sense. They're comparable to Sam Harris/Christopher Hitchens-style atheists, in other words. As tempting as it is to give them more than an ounce of credit for calling out dogmatism among religious literalists and card-carrying feminists, one also must recognize just how intellectually bankrupt the latter two camps are. Harris, Hitchens, and self-identified Red Pillers are th…	/r/MensRights	05/09/22 12:13 PM
1	“Think before you sleep” YouTube channel - Good or Bad? I don't watch his channel religiously. From the videos i have seen though, he's mostly reguritatig standard Red Pill platitudes that have been floating around YouTube since about '15, much in the same way late night TV(with the possible exception of Conan O'Brien)has pretty much become one huge mouthpiece for all the Woke talking points one hears in the faculty lounge of most humanities departments around the nation Not only most men, but most everyday people of both genders likely have overlapp…	/r/MensRights	05/09/22 11:57 AM
2	Women "shit testing" - equivalent to negging? "Shit testing" is, in a strange sense, similar to cat calling. For men, there are days where playfully boasting each other's chops, and others where we're just not game for banter. Context is key	/r/MensRights	05/09/22 11:22 AM
-25	Resumes with a female name were 41% more likely to receive a callback than resumes with a male name for software engineering jobs An earlier study found the opposite https://hrdailyadvisor.blr.com/2019/05/15/gender-bias-the-resume-edition/ Whether or not assertions like these("Employers prefer one gender over the other")can be verified via replication remains to be seen	/r/MensRights	05/09/22 11:05 AM
2	Oranges vs Apples While I appreciate the depth of information you bring to the table mechajutaro, you might try saying something positive Read those of my posts where I discuss securing public support for our goals by connecting men's issues to the subjects which are foremost in the minds of most Americans. Subjects like the economy, well-paying jobs, crime reduction, access to upward mobility, and less tax money getting take out of everyone's pocket at the end of the year. Thus far, our decision to conceptualize…	/r/MensRights	05/09/22 03:52 AM
1	is hypergamy in women sexist? Okay, but does the red pill community need to do such rigorous work? If so, for what gain? It's called The Scientific Method. Hypotheses have to be tested for falsifiability. Otherwise, they hold about as much water as the sort of crud one hears out of the Dennis Prager wannabe down at the bar, who terrorizes everyone in earshot with his barely-baked theories. The Gamma Bias originates not from any content creator on YouTube, but a couple of shrinks who proposed it in a reputable science journal…	/r/MensRights	04/09/22 02:56 PM
-1	Oranges vs Apples . Society is vehemently against any genital cutting of girls because it can have severe negative impacts on the health and sexual pleasure of women Actually, it was the chicanery of feminists that led to the term "female circumcision" being replaced with the more histrionic "genital mutilation", and the widespread misconception that infibulation is the norm in those cultures where this is still practiced https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/may-2021/perils-of-a-cause-celebre/ MRAs have just mimicked…	/r/MensRights	04/09/22 02:33 PM
8	circumcision needs to stop! The world is always talking about women rights, but have we ever talked about this disgusting unnecessary mutilation? Yeah we have, since at least The 1700s, when elements of Reform Judaism railed against the end of the practice. By now, it's glaringly obvious that this cause is no less of a dead end than reparations for slavery is	/r/MensRights	04/09/22 02:20 PM
1	is hypergamy in women sexist? I believe Smith actually said that he never witnessed so-called hypergamy being THE ONLY reason for a divorce. Obviously, a husband not earning anything above minimum wage ain't going to leave her panties soaking. Just as a woman who stops combing her hair, wearing make-up, shaving, and who becomes morbidly obese is going to create a husband who turns to porn and escort services to get his kicks Blames The Red Pill community? No; he's calling them out for not subjecting their own theology to the…	/r/MensRights	04/09/22 02:17 PM
0	In general, do men really care that they are considered expendable? But essentially im wondering if the men of the world would really be bothered about being considered expendable IF women gave us the same level of respect as back in the old days. What you're describing is a Red Pill romanticization of the past. Look up the names Agrippina, Herod's wife, Lady Macbeth, Elizabeth Tudor, etc etc. Women, as a class, have always been what they are. There are 5% of them who really despise men at a cellular level, another 5% who are conscious of their prejudices(no, …	/r/MensRights	04/09/22 07:38 AM
1	A must watch for all. Neoteny and it's prevalence in humans. Stumbled across this recently, which reminded me of our conversation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81c5doqGh8A&t=771s As TREY points out, our entire species(male and female alike) is neotenic, something that's allowed us to evolve to be capable of things like rational thought and metacognition. Straughan has 1/8 of a point, the likes of which lines up with an observation that's also made in the linked video; we humans sympathize more readily with all creatures who APPEAR cute and cuddly. We sy…	/r/MensRights	04/09/22 06:54 AM
1	Remember.... the world falls apart without us. The MRM has actually been pretty similar to their alleged opponents, The Woke Progressives; both put their identity(especially as pertains to gender)front and center of everything. What's said here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AizzlteP_F0 is just as applicable to The MRM as it is to the now Woke-dominated Democratic Party. Most of the movement's leadership stopped communicating in plain language back in '15, in favor of babbling in Manosphere jargon(Red/Blue/Purple Pill, Gynocentrism, Hyperga…	/r/MensRights	04/09/22 05:59 AM
2	Prestigious NYC Private School Director Touts ‘Sneaking’ Her Political ‘Agenda’ into Classrooms: ‘Disrupt Wherever I Can’ … ‘I Felt Like a Double Agent’ … ‘Huge Contingent’ of White Boys ‘Are Just Horrible’ I was agreeing with your thoughts that Acorn deserved to be slandered out of it's existence, because they had a strong leftist bent, even though their mission was to put low-income families into housing. Agreeing, and expanding on your thoughts, by observing that if we abide by the "logic" you're using, we ought to give Derek Chauvin a break also. The guy who he suffocated to death had a criminal record after all. For all we know, he got rid of a career criminal who would've just costed the tax …	/r/MensRights	03/09/22 03:18 PM
1	is hypergamy in women sexist? One is wise to unpack the notion of hypergamy itself, before inquiring whether or not it's sexist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFZHXOZVTr8	/r/MensRights	03/09/22 12:56 PM
22	1in3 domestic violence infographic based in ABS data Using buzzwords like "coercive control" instead of "bullying" and "intimidation" hasn't been helpful to the cause of men's advocacy. The general public(the very people who's support we must elicit, it we're going to gain the political muscle to achieve any of our goals)hears that shit, and rejects it just as violently as they do Woke esoterica like "systemic oppression" and "emotional labor"	/r/MensRights	03/09/22 12:53 PM
6	Remember.... the world falls apart without us. Yeah. The MRM shot itself through the head almost from the get-go, when it's leadership chose to forego hammering home to the general public the importance of men to the economy and the maintenance of our standard of living. Flagship MRA organizations like AVFM and HBR have largely been composed of self-described freaks and artists, who see themselves as separate and beyond so-called Blue Pill society. They've encouraged the lambs in their flock to(in the words of Paul Elam) "vote with your feet…	/r/MensRights	03/09/22 12:47 PM
1	Women are benefited in the education system These problems in K-12 have long been documented, even prior to Hoff Summers writing that book https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ Rehashing this data hasn't yielded much improvement though, much less gotten the public excited about supporting educational reform in primary schools. This ought to prompt us to ask ourselves why we're continuing to approach this subject as a gendered problem at all, rather than forming coalitions with folks like Doug Lemon, who are agitating for a proffesio…	/r/MensRights	03/09/22 12:35 PM
0	Poetical perspective on gynocentrism Quote from that stab at spoken bird verse*: "What will you do for women Every election which comes around Be it state or federal We hear this question" Politicians are going to remain uninterested in "men's problems", so long as A). We keep failing to connect these subjects to the worries which are foremost in the minds of most Americans. Talking here things like the economy, well-paying jobs, safe neighborhoods, and less tax dollars coming out of everyone's pocket at the end of the year. You've…	/r/MensRights	03/09/22 12:24 PM
0	Selective Service System - Another Female Privilege Given that "men's rights" is highly unpopular among most of the general public, it raises questions as to why we persist in using the term, and refusing to think more largely than men's issues. We here at The MRM are in straits similar to the one's that environmentalists find themselves in https://theweek.com/articles/459460/why-people-hate-feminists-environmentalists-activists-general Quote the article: "One of the University of Toronto experiments asked 228 Americans to describe "typical femin…	/r/MensRights	03/09/22 10:41 AM
2	Selective Service System - Another Female Privilege Here in The US, over in The UK and Australia, and throughout much of the world today, NOBODY is getting drafted. Insofar as the nations of The Anglosphere go, I'd encourage you to Google "American/British/Aussie/Kiwi servicewomen killed during The War On Terror". It's more than two or three, just as it's hardly black people alone who are being mistreated and sometimes murdered by inept and corrupt cops From a purely strategic standpoint: We've been trying to solve this particular problem by harp…	/r/MensRights	03/09/22 08:47 AM
0	Prestigious NYC Private School Director Touts ‘Sneaking’ Her Political ‘Agenda’ into Classrooms: ‘Disrupt Wherever I Can’ … ‘I Felt Like a Double Agent’ … ‘Huge Contingent’ of White Boys ‘Are Just Horrible’ Yeah. We must give Derek Chauvin a free pass on putting his entire body weight on George Floyd's neck, and asphyxiating him to death, while we're at it. Floyd had a criminal record, after all. There was next to no chance that Acorn could've been persuaded to become more amenable to market forces, which by extension would've put lots of low-income families into decent housing, and connected them with job training. Just as there was almost no chance that George Floyd could've received solid psych …	/r/MensRights	03/09/22 08:32 AM
1	I'm afraid to be accused as a pedophile because of my work. The solution to this is simple: Point out to everyone that Mary and Joesph, Muhammad and Aisha, and Aria and Ezra over on Pretty Little Liars all had an age gap, and that things worked out fine. Those who are suspicious about what could happen between between you and these tykes are catastrophizing	/r/MensRights	03/09/22 07:01 AM
0	American Nationalist Initiative and American Reformation Front are good for men. If by "watered down" you mean "It was a house of cards to begin with, comparable to feminists expecting the majority of the female population to forego men, in favor of sitting around in a circle, griping about The Patriarchy", then yeah.... That's MGTOW. Many of the most vocal proponents of this nonsense(Paul Elam, who's also the most famous MRA on the planet)are themselves married men. Albeit at least a few of those marriages-Elam's included-are effectively common law	/r/MensRights	03/09/22 06:57 AM
1	attack misandry not feminism attack misandry not feminism Both of those words have become so elastic as to be all but meaningless	/r/MensRights	03/09/22 06:03 AM
1	American Nationalist Initiative and American Reformation Front are good for men. Fighting against homosexuality will translate into civil war among The MRM and The Manosphere more generally. A large segment of both subcultures spent '16-'20 gagging on Donald Trump's flaccid penis, only taking the occasional break to groan over the demise of masculinity in modern society	/r/MensRights	03/09/22 06:01 AM
1	Don’t Worry Darling: Olivia Wilde says Jordan Peterson is a “hero to the incel community” There's much about Peterson(who seems like a well-meaning guy)that's worthy of lampooning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BDgQMGs7Mc It's just a pity that Wilde-who used to be cool not all that long ago-has gotten too Woke to pick up on such things	/r/MensRights	03/09/22 02:27 AM
1	The most NPC Feminist response I have ever gotten to bring up men's issues? Mofos don't read the Bible, Quran or Torah these days, and I think it would help. Yeah. That's what the advent of streaming services and social media hath wrought	/r/MensRights	02/09/22 04:42 PM
-24	Prestigious NYC Private School Director Touts ‘Sneaking’ Her Political ‘Agenda’ into Classrooms: ‘Disrupt Wherever I Can’ … ‘I Felt Like a Double Agent’ … ‘Huge Contingent’ of White Boys ‘Are Just Horrible’ Let's dig into this story for ourselves, to make sure she actually said those things, and James O'Keefe isn't once again taking things out of context, and stretching the facts to fit a story he concocted ahead of time. Ya know, like he and Veritas have done prior	/r/MensRights	02/09/22 06:11 AM
2	Selective Service System - Another Female Privilege There's been no shortage of women who've called out the foolishness of invading Iraq/military adventurism more broadly. Frankly though, why does it matter whether or not, or how many women complain about the state of selective service? This, and The White House's current ability to bypass Congress whenever they have a hankering to declare war, are American problems. They know no gender	/r/MensRights	02/09/22 06:09 AM
6	Selective Service System - Another Female Privilege Yep. How about yourself?	/r/MensRights	02/09/22 06:00 AM
3	Selective Service System - Another Female Privilege This is worse than even a gendered problem, when one takes a look at which demographic of men make up the majority of the cannon fodder in today's military. It's mostly the sons(and to a lesser extent daughters)of the most impoverished Americans who carry most of the load, when it comes to fighting our nations' wars. It ain't shocking to learn that Abu Ghariab and Eddie Gallagher were hardly isolated incidents..... Those of us who are firmly middle class and above have done everything in our pow…	/r/MensRights	02/09/22 03:37 AM
2	What are good career/life paths for the modern man? Insofar as men's issues goes, we could benefit immensely from having our own political consulting arms, sorta like what these (now mostly former)progressives did back in the late 90s https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Progressive-PR-3239880.php	/r/MensRights	02/09/22 03:23 AM
2	Did you know that up until 2012, men were excluded from the legal definition of rape? It bears investigating the political wrangling that it took to get these policy changes enacted. Prior to the modern day side show attractions over at AVFM and HBR became the public face of The MRM, men's advocates really seemed to have prioritized serious sociopolitical engagement over theatrical gestures. This all changed in the mid-10s, when MRAs forsook activism in favor of acting like fools on YouTube, all for the sake of triggering the ins and feeding their bloated yet fragile egos We co…	/r/MensRights	02/09/22 03:17 AM
-32	Prestigious NYC Private School Director Touts ‘Sneaking’ Her Political ‘Agenda’ into Classrooms: ‘Disrupt Wherever I Can’ … ‘I Felt Like a Double Agent’ … ‘Huge Contingent’ of White Boys ‘Are Just Horrible’ This comes from the same folks(Project Veritas)who slandered ACORN out of existence. Let's take their word without question	/r/MensRights	02/09/22 03:09 AM
1	Feminist logic: 500 years ago, men discriminated against women. You are a man too, so you must be a misogynist!” Wtf is this logic how am I supposed to be accountable for something that happened centuries ago JUST BECAUSE IM THE SAME GENDER? Same reason modern day Turks are still responsible for the atrocities committed during The Armenian Revolt, Jews living in '22 are still responsible for the fact that some within their tribe took part in the slave trade back in The 1600s, and ten year old Russians who are…	/r/MensRights	02/09/22 03:05 AM
1	Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men? Would red pill men be more happier as Gay men? Paul Elam and Tom Golden pretty much spent each of their Regarding Men videos making out while the former bloviated about the lack of masculinity in modern society, and Janice Fiamengo watched from the sidelines. Elam(especially), Golden, Anthony "Dream" Johnson, and at least 3/4 of The Manosphere spent '16-20 with their mouths wrapped irremovably around Donald Trump's penis, swallowing, and taking a breather only to ask for seconds These suppos…	/r/MensRights	02/09/22 02:52 AM
1	The most NPC Feminist response I have ever gotten to bring up men's issues? Parts of The Bible and hardboiled fiction told us that women could do all of those things looooong before anyone had heard of The Red Pill. And that's just two examples	/r/MensRights	01/09/22 05:24 PM
1	The most NPC Feminist response I have ever gotten to bring up men's issues? Amusingly, early hip hop was made of young men venting about the awful treatment they received from women, its been called 'proto red pill' by some. And both hip and much of what we today call Red Pill Content are spiritual offshoots of Primal Scream Therapy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4AwFIVsPE8 0:00:0:50 We've similarly been taught by The Ayatollah's of Red Pill Theology on YouTube that our overbearing mothers and conflict avoidant fathers fucked us up, and that we had no agency in any …	/r/MensRights	01/09/22 10:45 AM
1	MGTOW and female disapproval It's not a question of deserve or not deserve. It's a matter of putting our best foot forward	/r/MensRights	01/09/22 08:17 AM
17	The feminist assault on justice — and due process \| The Spectator Australia Feminist are opposing due process. This is more surprising than hearing that religious fundamentalists are opposing gay marriage becoming the law of the land at the state level	/r/MensRights	01/09/22 08:08 AM
1	MGTOW and female disapproval . i dont have some idealized view of the 1950s, but things have changed drastically just in 20 years. Agreed. Before the advent of social media, doomsayers were confined to cable network news, talk radio, and local access TV. Now, everyone from the rock stars of The Alt Right, to environmentalists, to MRAs/Generically Red Pill man babies have a platform from which to shout "The world is in a state of decay!!! Fall to your knees and repent for jerking it to that WAP video, driving around in an …	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 08:52 AM
1	MGTOW and female disapproval Every man on this planet is susceptible to the pussy wand. We become even more vulnerable, when we're arrogant enough to believe that were impervious to said wand's charms	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 08:41 AM
-1	MGTOW and female disapproval And the article perfectly describes how MGTOWers don't give a shit. For folks who are supposedly indifferent, they devote a great deal of energy to griping about so-called Blue Pill society, even though they believe themselves to be separate from and above the rest of us mere plebs whom they share the planet with	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 08:39 AM
-1	MGTOW and female disapproval Please don't use this term.. it's as offensive to female MRA as 'neckbeard" is to male ones. Much as it pains me to write this, female and male MRAs have, by and large, gone out of their way to embody these stereotypes, and accuse anyone who dares suggest that we be more conscientious of how we look and speak in public of "promoting respectability politics". This is comparable to environmentalists getting bent out of shape when the public perceives them as a fringe element of society, made up …	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 08:37 AM
1	MGTOW and female disapproval She's not a pick me. Like most women who self-identify as MRAs or as MRA-esque, girl's comparable to the white guy who calls himself an intersectional feminist, or at the very least actually thinks of himself as a progressive. She likely won't hesitate to stand up in a room full of men and start jabbering about how fucked up women are, just as The Woke White guy will go out of his way to act more offended by racism than most non-whites are, whenever he's in a room that's also occupied by a few d…	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 08:31 AM
2	MGTOW and female disapproval "I'm gonna find me a NAWALT" Women are what they are and always have been since he beginning our species. The only difference between the sort of guy who says things like what you've mentioned and MRAs/Generically Red Pill man-babies is that they're both enmeshed with a romanticized view of The 1950s, where Leave It To Beaver and Ozzie And Harriet were reflective of reality, rather than sappy comfort food, produced during a decade where censorship prevented us from seeing even married couples …	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 08:22 AM
1	MGTOW and female disapproval Yep. And life was a hell of a lot simpler when guys just referred to themselves as bachelors, rather than trying to build an ideology(which is exactly what MGTOW is) around their choice not to marry. Building an ideology around their choice not to marry, and bludgeoning the rest of us mere mortals who don't agree with them entirely with their attempts to convert us. These fellas are the male equivalents of the sort of broads who, back in the 70s, were running around screeching "a woman needs a m…	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 08:15 AM
3	MGTOW and female disapproval this is interesting to say the least. im in a relationship rn where she actively tells me she wants me to lead. Ultra butch dykes aside, women are biologically hardwired to desire what you're describing out of a man. Proof of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_AX6OwnllA Kinrys was a frequent collaborator of the superb David DeAngelo; she was making the observation back in '12, long before The Great Regression that was The Manosphere came into being in the mid-10s, and we all eschewed comm…	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 08:07 AM
9	MGTOW and female disapproval The most prominent MGTOWs on the planet(including the founder of AVFM himself, Paul Elam)are overwhelmingly married guys. Granted, at least a few of them(like Elam)have been co-habiting with the same chick for decades, and then throwing a tantrum whenever one of us mere mortals points out the fact that they're in what's effectively a common law marriage. We've all erred, by not calling these fellas out frequently and ferociously, whenever they start up with this bullshit about how they're "not p…	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 07:47 AM
0	MGTOW and female disapproval There may be some self-described MGTOWs out there who are creaming their underroos upon reading a woman defend them against other women who, as Anja says in that article, "pour scorn on the heads of MGTOWs". Let's all notice something though: For a gaggle of guys who can't help but continuously broadcast the fact that they're supposedly "going their own way" to everyone in ear shot, they're extraordinarily preoccupied with listing the faults of modern women(aka. the other half of our species, wh…	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 07:42 AM
0	Leonardo DiCaprio got no kids? As straight men, let's also not deny that we're often not enthusiastic about seeing gay men play cops, special forces soldiers, or rough and ready explorers	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 07:30 AM
1	The Depp v Heard trial was not a win for men's rights in any fashion I bet Depp would be the first to throw MRA under the bus too. The rich and famous aren't going to start investing in "men's issues" until we get real about what motivates people to invest in a cause of any kind.... Their own self-interest. This current iteration of The MRM's approach to outside constituents has mostly been to walk up and say to them "We're MRAs. Here's our laundry list of pet projects; what can you do for us?". This, rather than saying "Here's all the ways we can help you to a…	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 06:44 AM
5	The Depp v Heard trial was not a win for men's rights in any fashion It brought out the concept of a woman being abusive and lying. It made it impossible to ignore. It was a plus. How long are people going to remember this though, and can we honestly say that it's changed people's perspectives on DV significantly? Most of folks believe(not entirely without justification)that this was a case of two nut job celebrities being awful to one another, and that even if Heard was the sole perpetrator here, she's an outlier. Go around and ask the vast majority of America…	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 06:38 AM
1	The Depp v Heard trial was not a win for men's rights in any fashion The importance attached to this trial by so many prominent MRAs mimics the sort of importance that these same folks attached to Cassie jay's The Red Pill, and for that matter the expectations so many self-identified progressives had for An Inconvenient Truth, when it was released in the mid-2000s. MRAs and Greens alike really believe that one event alone is going to be a game changer. Alas, life just isn't that simple As it stands, very few people deny that men can be the targets of domestic v…	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 06:34 AM
2	Male Bathrooms Is this common in NYC or the U.S as a whole? Do you feel it’s an issue I've got no desire to walk into the women's room while chicks are taking a shit. Very few straight men would deny that us being denied entry into the women's locker room makes life less enjoyable	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 06:20 AM
2	Leonardo DiCaprio got no kids? It's astounding that we're still pretending that dude is straight, and that all those alleged romances with various supermodels weren't stage managed. This isn't a knock on gay people mind you, so much as it's a knock on our double standards, regarding homosexuality among celebs. It's easier for women to be out and still be sex symbols, whereas as gay men have a tougher time playing romantic leads and still being seen as desirable, once they're out	/r/MensRights	31/08/22 06:17 AM
1	Hi all i want to know the central tenants of the mens right movement in like 3 statements. What would they be? Funny that every time someone polls the sub, it leans left. So Imma ask you for sauce for that claim. That maybe true of this sub. It hasn't been true of flagship MRA organizations like AVFM and HBR, who've been the most visible and widely-covered elements of this particular incarnation of The MRM, since it began in the mid-10s. The MRM of today began as an outgrowth of The Anti-SJW community on YouTube, which always had a strong Alt-Rigt bent to it. Much in the same way environmentalism has a…	/r/MensRights	30/08/22 09:44 PM
5	Feminism theory is based on logical fallacies - the biggest of which I've noticed is the formal fallacy(aka non sequitur). They point out something true, and then continue to conclude something wrong. Which is what I think the whole Ideology is built on. It suffers from the same intellectual flukes that plague Red Pill Theory, in other words	/r/MensRights	30/08/22 01:21 AM
2	There are 3 non profits in my area that help single moms with donated cars. BUT NOT SINGLE FATHERS! I had to create a GoFundMe to get assistance Google Help For Single Fathers. The programs aren't as plentiful for the ones which exist for single mothers, nonetheless they're out there. The more pressing problem here though is the circumstances that make our most distressed communities highly vulnerable to single motherhood being the norm..... Namely, poverty and a drug war which disproportionately locks up men from these same destitute communities, by extension gutting these same communities of fathers Most MRAs scoff at the notion that p…	/r/MensRights	30/08/22 01:19 AM
3	When it comes to boys, it's schools who are flunking Add to that the fact that the term "men's rights" and "The Men's Rights Movement" is heavily unpopular with the general public. Just as environmentalists have typically been perceived as "grubby, tree hugging hippies" by everyone outside of The Green Movement, MRAs are viewed by most folks outside of the movement as basement dwelling neckbeards, blaming women and feminism for all of the disappointments in their lives This raises several questions as to whether or not it's wise for us to continue…	/r/MensRights	30/08/22 01:02 AM
1	When it comes to boys, it's schools who are flunking Do we really think focusing exclusively on one gender in education yet again is desirable, when it was the injection of not just gender politics but Far Left dogma into K-12 that lead us into the straits we find ourselves in today? Not sure what your basis for saying that my take is in line with status quo is. Check out the link I provided in the prior post; I'm calling for us to agitate for the professionalization of our teaching force. This is the exact opposite of the current status quo	/r/MensRights	29/08/22 09:38 PM
1	Being a young man is terrifying to me I hate gender politics, I am nauseated from the doses of it that I already got Join the crowd. The MRM has made a fatal error, by trying to counter Intersectional Feminism with their own brand of identity politics, rather than framing themselves as the folks who are proponents of upholding The Constitution and protecting civil liberties for one and all, regardless of gender. Much in the same way Democrats spent the years between Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton losing elections, on account of the…	/r/MensRights	29/08/22 09:22 AM
1	Being a young man is terrifying to me I am not any kinda pill You're one of the lucky ones then	/r/MensRights	29/08/22 08:00 AM
1	Do women need men need women? Even putting boys front and center in discussion leads to folks losing interest almost instantly. One could today easily and aptly put together an autopsy of The MRM similar to the one Shellenberger and Nordhaus performed on environmentalism awhile back https://www.npr.org/2005/03/18/4541344/the-death-of-environmentalism https://grist.org/article/doe-reprint/ Title instead being "The Death Of The Men's Rights Movement: Advocacy around men's issues, in a world that's Post-MRM" What S and N obse…	/r/MensRights	29/08/22 07:03 AM
0	When it comes to boys, it's schools who are flunking We won't make any headway by continuing to frame education reform as a gendered problem. It's going to be much more astute to agitate for a greater professionalization of our K-12 teaching force, ala https://www.npr.org/2010/05/11/126743261/simple-techniques-can-make-you-a-great-teacher Admittedly, this may not completely cure the fact that teachers sometimes punish boys more swiftly and harshly than they do girls, nonetheless it will reduce the frequency of such incidents compared to what exist…	/r/MensRights	29/08/22 06:51 AM
1	Being a young man is terrifying to me Hehe if I wanted to join a cult I'd go for something more like the Manson Family, If you've bought into Red Pill Theology hook, line, and stinker, rather than subjecting it's tenets to the same rigor and skepticism that we apply to all other belief systems.... Well, you're in a cult already. I don't say this is as criticism either; lots of us have been ensnared in said cult, just as many women have taken for a ride by The Church Of Intersectionality	/r/MensRights	29/08/22 06:45 AM
1	Being a young man is terrifying to me I've undergone Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, and read much of the literature on it. The benefits are incalculable	/r/MensRights	29/08/22 03:42 AM
0	Being a young man is terrifying to me I won't recommend mental health services. What I will recommend is grabbing some books on Cognitive Behavioral Therapy(the only form of psychotherapy for which they're exists substantial empirical evidence for), and reading up + checking out The Handbook For New Stoics. Lots of guys today are in distress similar to the one that you're describing, thanks to not only Woke Thought but also Red Pill Theology, which has scammed entirely too many of us into believing that the existence of prejudice an…	/r/MensRights	29/08/22 01:40 AM
1	Gynocentrism’s Transgender Fruit — Process Philosophy in Action I wishing things were as simple as a handful of mustache twirling villains in a smoke filled room, drawing up divide and conquer tactics, being almost entirely to blame for all of our ills	/r/MensRights	29/08/22 01:29 AM
1	Women Wage More War - Another BS Female Talking Point Trashed By Facts Quote what I wrote in it's entirety: "This current iteration of The MRM has, since it's beginnings in the mid-10s, been an Alt Right-adjacent equivalent to Far Leftist gay rights organizations of The 70s like The Gay Liberation Front." Yeah; antecedents can be found in the form of folks like E. Belfort Bax, who never actually called himself an MRA, and all of this stuff that today's MRAs act like they were the first to discover has been long documented https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/…	/r/MensRights	29/08/22 01:13 AM
1	Gynocentrism’s Transgender Fruit — Process Philosophy in Action I really wish things were as simple as "The Evil Feminist Overlords who secretly rule this planet have masterminded all the difficulties we're experiencing today"; making life better would actually be easier if this were the case. All we'd need to do is get rid of The Evil Feminist Overlords who are secretly pulling the strings. As is almost always the case, life isn't just that simple We're living in a society that's wrought with prejudice and biases toward/ignorance about men, for the simple f…	/r/MensRights	28/08/22 09:40 PM
6	My take on issues within the MRA movement and this is why often MRAs in "Online debates" can look silly On a more fundamental level than even that: Debates(be they online or in real life) are the most ineffective method for persuading outside constituents to support one's goals. When we fall into the trap of debating not just feminists, but anyone who's skeptical-outright hostile towards our mission, we create the impression that...well, that there's something to debate, rather than troubles which undeniably exist and demand the atten…	/r/MensRights	28/08/22 10:02 AM
-2	Gynocentrism’s Transgender Fruit — Process Philosophy in Action Quote the article: "Vaginoplasty, womb transplants, hormone blockers, hormone injections. These things represent the crowning achievement of cultural feminism, creating a kind of unforeseen gynotopia resulting from the elevation of all things female" We're adding "cultural feminism" to the list of Manosphere buzzwords and jargon, eh? Apparently, we haven't been making fools of ourselves enough already, by hurling empty terms like "Blue Pill", "Purple Pill", and "Gynocentric" at anything we fin…	/r/MensRights	28/08/22 09:48 AM
1	Do you think the majority of men are hardwired to be simps? Human beings are hardwired to sympathize more readily with all creatures who APPEAR at first glance to be cute and cuddly, attractive young women included. This isn't unique to men though; women sympathize more readily with comely 19 year olds who turn on the waterworks than they do with 80something year old butch dykes who look like they haven't bathed in a few weeks	/r/MensRights	28/08/22 09:27 AM
2	Revolt of the Fatherless Quote that article: "Nor can they explain why the virus hoax fools huge numbers into further acquiescence in leftist tyranny, plus likely self-harm" Respectively to the author of that article(Baskerville has done some commendable work in the past), this sort of conspiracy mongering idiocy-something that's been rampant within The MRM for awhile now-has diminished the prospects of us being taken seriously by the public at large	/r/MensRights	28/08/22 09:24 AM
1	Can MRAs Solve The Transgender Debate? Weekly discord chat Did I really need to add the prefix that people can do what they want so long they are not directly hurting others ? Anytime we discuss rights and freedoms, we must be specific as to our definitions of those things. In a nation the size of The US, there's an infinite number of ways in which folks conceptualize "freedom" and "hurting others". Example: The ongoing kerfuffle over whether or not a baker is within his rights/is free to refuse to bake a cake for a gay couple, and who this may or may…	/r/MensRights	28/08/22 09:05 AM
1	Can MRAs Solve The Transgender Debate? Weekly discord chat No. I encourage them to grab a copy of David Burns's book "Feeling Good", and to find themselves a well-trained cognitive behavioral therapist	/r/MensRights	28/08/22 08:57 AM
-2	Can MRAs Solve The Transgender Debate? Weekly discord chat I firmly disagree with this, people can do the **** what they want. Agree. People CAN murder a guy who just walked away from The ATM after withdrawing a few hundred bucks because they want that for themselves, break into a 19 year old co-eds room in the middle of the night to rape her after admiring her beauty at the pool earlier in the day, and defecate on the street rather than using a toilet. No one is following any of us around with a loaded gun pressed to our heads, threatening to pull the …	/r/MensRights	28/08/22 06:05 AM
8	Rape requires evidence the accused inserted a body part or object into another not that the accused compelled another to insert a body part or object into the accused. So a mom is spared jail for what she did to her 2 year old son. Laws like this won't change, as long as contemporary men's advocacy prioritizes fantasizing about overthrowing The Gynocentric Social Order from behind our keyboards, while twisting ourselves into knots to manufacture rationalizations for not taking sociopolitical action out on the ground, where it really counts. The MRM hasn't experienced a schism like the one that's been present within the gay rights movement since the late 60s ( https://artsandculture.google.com/story/activism-in-the-wake-of-…	/r/MensRights	28/08/22 03:21 AM
0	Can MRAs Solve The Transgender Debate? Weekly discord chat The "problem" is remarkably easy to solve. Everyone just remain the gender that they were born as; it just confuses the fuck out of everyone when people start swapping like this. Whether or not those who are determined to undergo gender re-assignment surgery will actually forego doing as much, just because we encouraged them not to go down this road, is dubious	/r/MensRights	28/08/22 03:01 AM
3	Norway's new mens issue panel is not composed by 100% men, and faces criticism in a article. The existence of an office like The Ministry Of Culture and Equality is far more alarming. If we're serious about upholding civil rights and the principles of democracy for one and all, regardless of gender, let's get rid of all this shit. Let's don't try to fix problems like the existence of a Congressional Women's Caucus by creating a Congressional Men's Caucus. Abolish the former, and let's have a government that presides over all citizens without consideration of identity	/r/MensRights	28/08/22 02:56 AM
-2	Women Wage More War - Another BS Female Talking Point Trashed By Facts Interesting factoid, and one that also has very little relevance to the most pressing difficulties we're facing here in '22, where incidents of war are on an overall decline, mostly thanks to developments like increased free trade and the advent of nuclear weapons. This current iteration of The MRM has, since it's beginnings in the mid-10s, been an Alt Right-adjacent equivalent to Far Leftist gay rights organizations of The 70s like The Gay Liberation Front. Flagship MRA organizations like AVFM …	/r/MensRights	28/08/22 02:49 AM
10	Norway's new mens issue panel is not composed by 100% men, and faces criticism in a article. All of this doesn't even tackle a more vital question: What exactly do government task forces and panels on not just men's issues, but women's issues, trans issues, etc etc do exactly? Talking specifics here, rather than the sort of airy fever dreams we heard out of Warren Farrell("We need to teach women to share the burden of pursuit, and to not always choose The CEO over the male kindergarten teacher")whenever he was asked what his proposed Task Force On Men And Boys's mission would be If proj…	/r/MensRights	28/08/22 01:45 AM
2	Do women need men need women? I've given that rant 1000 times, always to deaf ears. They just can't see past their feeling place. It's stunning. We've been ranting at outside constituents since this iteration of The MRM kicked off in the mid-10s, rather than serving as effective salesman for our goals. We've spent shockingly little time building rapport with the general public, much less said to the other 99% of America(who aren't activists, and who don't have the luxury of thinking in political terms) "What are your top 5…	/r/MensRights	28/08/22 01:33 AM
1	Do women need men need women? Quote the article: " Do women need men? Well, ladies, you do if you want your Southern Californian water and gas turned back on." This actually highlights the tragedy of this current iteration of The MRM: Since it's emergence in the mid-10s, most of the movement's leadership have themselves vehemently opposed using appeals to self-interest as a means of winning wide-spread public support. We won't make much progress by continuing to do what we've been doing.... Trying to sell the public on our…	/r/MensRights	28/08/22 01:25 AM
1	Warren Farrell talks about a "Gender Transition Movement" away from the old gender roles It's a thought experiment, in the same way that I.X. Ken-dy and Robin DiAngelo's proposition that we need to undergo a society wide psychological revolution which purges our species of all racial prejudice is a thought experiment. The impracticality of these ideas becomes glaringly apparent, when we ask Farrell, Kendy , and DiAngelo to provide us with specifics as to how we achieve these dreams The less said about the many ways in which focusing the majority of our energies on utopian fantasie…	/r/MensRights	27/08/22 11:57 PM
1	Are there any men's spaces out there? Google "Men's Groups" in your zip code, These exists in every major metropolitan area in The US. There's always the option of starting one yourself also	/r/MensRights	27/08/22 10:43 AM
15	where do you see Men's Rights in the next 50 years? The least I am hoping for is reliable male birth control; but that's not rights per se, just practical rights. That's going to be the path forward. Don't even use the term "men's rights", and start instead focusing on practical ways to reduce the day to day burdens of living for most Americans. A side effect of this will be an amelioration of many of the problems that The MRM have conceptualized as "men's issues"	/r/MensRights	27/08/22 07:49 AM
-5	where do you see Men's Rights in the next 50 years? where do you see Men's Rights in the next 50 years? Ideally? Even deader than the notion is here in '22(We're now living in a world that's incontestably Post-MRM), and chunked into a mass grave that's also occupied by ideas like women's rights, and all other forms of identity politics Realistically? 50 years isn't a terribly long time in terms of human history. Self-identified feminists and folks who actually label themselves MRAs will likely still be around, desperately splitting hairs in the…	/r/MensRights	27/08/22 07:43 AM
3	Women and accountability It’s sad that the blm founder scammed many out of millions basically spotted on the black races face and now she has a 6 million dollar home and we don’t have shit. Let's not get pissed of at BLM; they've never been on our side anyway. Let's get pissed off at the rockstars of the current iteration of The MRM, who've racked up small fortunes each since things kicked off in the mid-10s. Here's a snapshot of what HBR did with the ample donations they collected https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLFW…	/r/MensRights	27/08/22 06:30 AM
7	“70% of child support debt in the US is owed by parents who make under $10k/year. If you were to design a system to entrap parents in inescapable cycles of debt and punishment, it would be the child support system the way it is currently”\| Breaking fathers out of the child-support-to-prison pipeline Articles like this appear each week, and provide us with still further incentive to think more largely than "men's rights" and screeching about how much feminism sucks, if we're serious about selling the public* on our goals. Start connecting our mission to the worries that trouble Americans the most, such as fewer of their/our tax dollars going to the government at the end of year, on account of too many people being in prison and being kept in poverty, which itself leads to disastrous events t…	/r/MensRights	27/08/22 03:43 AM
-8	Hi all i want to know the central tenants of the mens right movement in like 3 statements. What would they be? The central tenants of the men's rights movement, if such a thing can even exists anywhere outside the realm of cyberspace..... The infamous Larry Kramer's assessment of just how badly the gay rights movement's mission statement had degenerated by time the early 80s rolled around is equally applicable to the worldview held what we here in '22 call The MRM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lda9YhshTV4 5:56-6:36 Since it's emergence in the mid-10s, the current iteration of The MRM has mostly been fi…	/r/MensRights	27/08/22 02:53 AM
2	Giving up on Society I agree with you. That's why I wrote of us taking action like getting more men registered to vote, and forging ties with both Republicans and Democrats at the local level. We can start to exert political pressure on holders of high office then	/r/MensRights	27/08/22 01:40 AM
3	Giving up on Society We complain about the laws that are made and passed by the government and about women and their feminism that made all this possible in the first place, while forgetting about the greatest culprit in human history, the Man itself. Let's get angry at this current iteration of The MRM and what passes for it's leadership also. Folks at flagship MRA organizations like AVFM and HBR have violently opposed initiatives like getting more men registered to vote(MRAs lament the fact that women vote more …	/r/MensRights	27/08/22 12:33 AM
-2	Anyone going mgtow and struggled or struggling with being a helpless romantic? If so what advice do you have to get over it? Get over it by chunking all of this MGTOW crap out with the rest of the garbage, and admit that you're a human being, with needs and desires, just like the rest of us. Yeah, divorce and family courts can be dangerous places for men, should a fella impregnate a chick. All the more reason for us to get out from behind our keyboards in favor of knocking on doors in neighborhoods throughout our nation, and selling the public on our goals. Namely, all the ways that things like making shared parenting…	/r/MensRights	27/08/22 12:18 AM
6	What Dating Issues are More Difficult Now Compared to 20 Years Ago? Dating issues that didn't exist 20 years ago for men: -While we've been beset by conflictual messages about masculinity throughout The 20th and 21st Century("Women want a sensitive guy, who listens" vs "Damnit, you're too nice and sensitive"), this has become more accentuated from the late-10s up until today. As has been well-documented, we've got Intersectionality escaping from our university campuses and infecting the popular discourse to blame for this -Whatever good intentions may have bee…	/r/MensRights	27/08/22 12:10 AM
1	are there men's rights organizations in europe? About as 'underground' as in North America, I'd presume. The MRM in North America has chosen to remain underground, and has violently opposed at all encouragement to start making "men's issues" into American problems. The stance taken by flagship MRA organizations like AVFM and HBR has been similar to the one taken by organizations like The Gay Liberation Front during The 70s https://monthlyreview.org/2001/05/01/the-queergay-assimilationist-split/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuTNXnQA-ww Th…	/r/MensRights	26/08/22 09:12 AM
2	are there men's rights organizations in europe? There's Mike Buchanan's recently rebranded political party in The UK. Whether or not they're going to be any more successful than they were when they wore label of Justice For Men And Boys remains to be seen. Fathers4Justice ( https://www.fathers-4-justice.org )is pretty much a father's rights organization as opposed to an MRA outfit, nonetheless they're unique in their emphasis on direct action, such as their Crummy Mummy campaigns. They don't get anywhere near enough credit, even within MRA ci…	/r/MensRights	26/08/22 08:56 AM
1	A must watch for all. Neoteny and it's prevalence in humans. Feminism to MRA. No side is completely wrong or right. We're in agreement on this front. I'd urge you to think twice about saying those words out loud at any live gathering of MRAs though. The mere suggestion that every now and then, someone who calls herself a feminist may say something cogent, or that MRAs aren't always correct, will get you stomped into the pavement by True Believers in Red Pill Theology	/r/MensRights	26/08/22 08:23 AM
2	A must watch for all. Neoteny and it's prevalence in humans. Fox News at least gives airtime to Ecomodernists like Bjorn Lomborg, Mike Shellenberger, and Patrick Moore. We definitely must give them credit for that	/r/MensRights	26/08/22 07:21 AM
0	A must watch for all. Neoteny and it's prevalence in humans. Much easier to say what you really mean..... "I've been following Straughan for awhile now, and consider everything she says to be Holy Writ. I'm thus uncomfortable, when I encounter someone who's less than reverent towards her, much in the same way Fox News junkies flip out when they run into anyone who doesn't find Tucker Carlson to be a particularly deep thinker	/r/MensRights	26/08/22 06:19 AM
1	Endlessly pointing out double standards is not a winning strategy in and of itself. Most people also have a less than charitable view of The MRM, thanks in no small part to the sort of jackassery engaged in by the folks who run flagship MRA organizations like AVFM and HBR, both of whom went out of their way to personify just about every stereotype about men's advocates that exists. If we're serious about selling the larger public on our goals(let's not kid ourselves; when we introduce men's issues to our neighbors out in reality, we are selling them a product), it's likely goin…	/r/MensRights	26/08/22 04:43 AM
1	Endlessly pointing out double standards is not a winning strategy in and of itself. Pointing out double standards is not the silver bullet you think it is. Yep. John McWhorter's skewering of Woke Left platitudes here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r29uPHicew between 0:00-5:24 By all means, let's call out the sheer irrationality of jumping to the conclusion that a guy must be a sexual predator, the minute he's accused of not only rape, but even silly things like making a mildly blue joke, as well as the fact that cops often reflexively believe a woman(especially a young, att…	/r/MensRights	26/08/22 04:31 AM
3	The most NPC Feminist response I have ever gotten to bring up men's issues? Check out John McWhorter's book "All About The Beat", Juan Williams's "Enough", all of Stanley Crouch's writing on hip hop, this article from Thomas Chatterton Williams ( http://musicandculture.blogspot.com/2007/05/op-ed-yes-blame-hip-hop.html ) and this one from The Seattle Medium( https://seattlemedium.com/hip-hop-culture-monster-black-community-created/ ), for starters. None of which were written by Intersectionalists or Tradcons The subculture around hip hop harms men and women living in our…	/r/MensRights	26/08/22 04:11 AM
4	The most NPC Feminist response I have ever gotten to bring up men's issues? It’s pretty tame compared to the “bitches and hoes” attitude we hear so often in music. Pretty tame compared to the lyrics that detail brutally murdering and raping women. Let's everyone note that it's almost entirely in rap music that one encounters such lyrics, music which produced almost entirely by Black Americans. One of the demographics who most Woke Feminists cite as being fellow oppressed people. If card-carrying Intersectioanlists are serious about reducing misogyny in our society, it…	/r/MensRights	26/08/22 03:15 AM
9	The fear and hysteria around sexual assault and crime against women I notice the media, social media etc act like women anywhere are basically constantly in danger of being raped, murdered etc. Men today are in straits similar to those that gays were in during the mid-20th Century https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFVRRP-J9mI&t=1058s 13:14-17:26 Only difference here of course being that we men are thought of as oppressors, rapists-waiting-to-happen, and potential thugs who are a menace to social order. Similar to what Rauch says in the linked video though, and c…	/r/MensRights	26/08/22 03:07 AM
6	Feminist hypocrisy- "we don't need a men's rights movement." 've noticed a hypocrisy when talking to feminists about men's issues and the MRM. Feminists will say "we don't need a men's movement, because feminism helps men. Feminism is for everyone." When we fall into the trap of debating not just feminists but those who aren't yet sold on "men's issues", we just further the impression that there's something to debate, rather than genuine problems which demand the attentions and energies of all Americans who want to leave their descendants with a saner w…	/r/MensRights	26/08/22 02:28 AM
0	"the perils of an ideological approach " - Karen Straughan; This needs to be seen by more people. Wait, it almost sounds like you are saying, we should drop a movement because its not needed anymore? No; I'm calling on us to drop it, because this current iteration of The MRM's shot itself through the head after about the first year of it's existence. When terms like "men's rights" and "The Men's Rights Movement" are heavily unpopular, theres's cause for us to question the wisdom of our continuing to use them, when we're selling the larger public on our goals	/r/MensRights	26/08/22 02:13 AM
1	A must watch for all. Neoteny and it's prevalence in humans. Get over yourself troll. If you don't agree with her statements, that's your prerogative. Yeah; Straughan herself says in that video "These are my observations and conjectures. Feel free to share your agreements and disagreements". That's what I'm doing now. She and other prominent MRAs have 1/8 of a point, when they note that we, as a species, sympathize more readily with young, attractive women. For the simple fact that we humans sympathize more readily with all creatures who APPEAR to be cu…	/r/MensRights	26/08/22 02:07 AM
0	Is it too late already? It's definitely too late for this latest iteration of The MRM.... Flagship MRA organizations like AVFM and HBR picked up a live hand grenade, pulled the pin, and allowed it to explode in their own hands as early as '15, when they got up on bandwagons like Gamergage, ComicsGate, and the latest melodrama that's going on in the world of RPG games. This perpetuated all of the negative stereotypes about MRAs being overgrown adolescents and basement dwelling keyboard warriors, much in the same way all…	/r/MensRights	26/08/22 12:44 AM
0	A must watch for all. Neoteny and it's prevalence in humans. I edited/added a few words to my prior post. If we're now redefining the word "succinct" to mean "Invoking words like neoteny to make what you're saying sound a lot more clever than it really is, while also peppering your rambling with bombast like "monogamous egalitarian model of social organization".... Then yeah, what Straughan did here definitely matches that criteria	/r/MensRights	25/08/22 09:47 PM
0	A must watch for all. Neoteny and it's prevalence in humans. 6:14 "The monogamous egalitarian model of social organization".... For a large portion of early human history, humans were anything but monogamous, and deliberately so. The several billions people who now inhabit this planet wouldn't be here, if Ozzie and Harriet had been the norm. Sadly, Straughan's capacity for non-sequitur leaps like this are rampant throughout this video(Ex. We sympathize more readily with young, ATTRACTIVE women who turn on the waterworks. Ugly and older women have to get i…	/r/MensRights	25/08/22 09:15 PM
-5	"the perils of an ideological approach " - Karen Straughan; This needs to be seen by more people. Vice's dropped the ball, by not practicing thorough journalism, on the 2-3 occasions they've covered The MRM. They just did the opposite of the sort of ass-kissing they engage in when covering Greta Thunberg	/r/MensRights	25/08/22 11:08 AM
-7	"the perils of an ideological approach " - Karen Straughan; This needs to be seen by more people. so? The "new" thing is egalitarian. There's nothing egalitarian about a civilization where one segment of the population is erased from it's existence on account of their beliefs, which is exactly what Straughan and most MRAs are daydreaming about, when they assert that we need to create a world where not only those who identify as feminists, but anyone whom THEY THEMSELVES label "feminist" are made to disappear. That's textbook totalitarianism, and it ain't a "new thing". Several such regimes…	/r/MensRights	25/08/22 11:03 AM
-4	Women hold nearly two-thirds of the outstanding student debt in the U.S. What you say brings us back around to a topic that' most of this current iteration of The MRM has been hostile towards, since they arrived on the scene in the mid-10s. Namely, changing our line of attack, by not trying to win the hearts and minds of the general public by opening every conversation with them by talking about "men's issues", but to instead lead with talk of how supporting our goals(such as abolishing all university majors which end in the word "studies", gender studies included, g…	/r/MensRights	25/08/22 09:23 AM
1	Women hold nearly two-thirds of the outstanding student debt in the U.S. All the more incentive for us to cease the highly ineffective approach we've been employing thus far, when we define "men's issues" as something which exist in a category that's separate from the problems which affect America most grievously. There's a strong case for abolishing these many university majors which yield provide students with a dismal ROI(examples here being any major that ends the word "studies", hospitality management, business communications, communications more generally.... H…	/r/MensRights	25/08/22 09:12 AM
3	Quick reminder Don’t get the wrong idea of women here while there are definitely alot of bad women out there, remember there are alot of good women as well. Polarized thinking like this(bad vs good)hasn't been helpful to us; at the very least, it sets us up to be continuously blindsided and disappointed, when so-called good women prove themselves to be no more or less flawed than all other human beings are. All women almost certainly do harbor prejudices towards and ignorance about men, just as we men harbor…	/r/MensRights	25/08/22 09:03 AM
-16	"the perils of an ideological approach " - Karen Straughan; This needs to be seen by more people. She has actually spoken about this, I fail to find where specifically - but essentially she will not while advocating for men rights share her personal opinion on how the world should work. She's identified as an anti-feminist since first arriving on the scene, and spoken in several speeches at various events as to the fact that she believes that we must create a world where feminists/feminism no longer exists. Straughan and most contemporary MRAs have been fantasizing about a reality in which…	/r/MensRights	25/08/22 08:29 AM
-19	"the perils of an ideological approach " - Karen Straughan; This needs to be seen by more people. Straughan and the rest of the modern MRM's rockstars(all of whom identify as Red Pill dogmatists)preaching to the rest of us mere plebs whom they share this planet with about the dangers of an ideological approach is even more risible than modern day followers of Freud lecturing Intro To Psych students about the dangers of pseudoscience in the field	/r/MensRights	25/08/22 07:38 AM
0	interview with men on strike author Dante Moore's response to "Where have all the good men gone?" remains the most powerful one of all time, this many years after his book's publication https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoYUySgfviM The tragedy of today's MRM is that it's led by case studies in buffoonery like Paul Elam, who claim to speak on our behalf, yet don't put the onus on women when they ask this question. The drivel one hears out of most MRAs/Generically Red Pill folks instead goes something like "Gynocentrism stops us men f…	/r/MensRights	25/08/22 03:03 AM
1	The tale of Delphine LaLaurie 40% of slave owners in the Antebellum American South were women Even the dyed in the wool Woke-sters over at Vox have acknowledge the role of women as slaveholders in pre-Civil War America https://www.vox.com/2019/8/19/20807633/slavery-white-women-stephanie-jones-rogers-1619 Well, white women at least. We can have an entire separate discussion on free black women who also owned slaves It is just as important to know historical truths, rather than revisions or intentionally buried knowledge, …	/r/MensRights	25/08/22 02:42 AM
2	MRAs Must Take Political Action, Here Is How: Neither party at this moment can be honestly called "pro-male", just as neither was particularly "pro-black" at the beginning of The 20th Century. We can definitely strengthen our political influence though, by getting more men registered to vote, and forming ties with both Republicans and Democrats* at the local level. While the majority of women don't vote(just like the majority of men don't), those who do turn up at the ballot boxes are overwhelmingly female, and overwhelmingly Woke-leaning. …	/r/MensRights	24/08/22 10:08 PM
1	Armie Hammer is Innocent He's still guilty of that godawful Lone Ranger movie though. Dude really needs to atone for that more than anything	/r/MensRights	24/08/22 09:58 PM
8	What happened to feminism? Why is now favoritism, instead of equality? Same thing that happens to every social movement,,,, That faction that prioritized the pursuit of concrete, tangible goals was overthrown by the faction that treats identifying bias and prejudice, then spending weeks groaning over the existence of such things, as the be all and end all of activism. We here at The MRM haven't been much different. Take a look/listen at what advocacy around men's issues used to look like, in the not too distant past https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ (espe…	/r/MensRights	24/08/22 09:41 PM
3	She was just a child/baby killer Quote the article: "The criminal phenomenon of the female serial killer is, like all other forms of female criminality, only scantly researched and studied. This pervasive incuriousness has been the norm ever since the pre-1960s era when almost all criminologists were male (and were imbued with chivalrous attitudes)." More than a couple of books have been written about Aileen Wuornos, Karla Homolka, Beverly Alitt, Ilsa Koch, etc etc. Snapped has been documenting the reality of murderesses since …	/r/MensRights	24/08/22 09:10 PM
1	Do y’all think that younger men are less likely to be feminists than older men? Depends upon where one's at geographically. On The Upper East Side and in Malibu, everyone's showing the flag for Intersectionality, as a mark of what can only be described as religious devotion. By contrast, the folks in Williamsburg, Arcadia, and everywhere else in America recognize all that for the nonsense that it is	/r/MensRights	24/08/22 01:57 PM
1	The tale of Delphine LaLaurie I'll Google Curry's book. I'm not denying that this stuff is fascinating history, just as it's fascinating to read about The Conquistadors plundering The New World, or the Turks conquering and enslaving Eastern Europe. We moderns prioritize mulling over such things though, while show very little passion for helping those who are in need today. I'm not convinced that this has been beneficial	/r/MensRights	24/08/22 01:26 PM
1	Investigative Report \| GYNOCENTRISM "Has a gynocentric society lied to women that equality would bring them happiness?" This rhetorical question is predicated on us continuing to believe that jargon like "gynocentric society" carries any more weight that the feminist notion of "androcentric society" does. In the last couple of years, there's been a study or two which reported female respondents being less happy than male respondents. Putting aside for one moment the fact that the social sciences are in the midst of a replication…	/r/MensRights	23/08/22 10:23 PM
-1	"Heads of charities say teachers should be on the lookout for talk of the ‘manosphere’, ‘red pills’ and so-called ‘men’s rights activists’ and report them”. He's further proof that we're more interested in entertainment than we are having honest conversations about uncomfortable topics, such as the difficulties between men and women. Saying this as someone who likes a fair amount of Tate's content	/r/MensRights	23/08/22 09:28 AM
2	"Heads of charities say teachers should be on the lookout for talk of the ‘manosphere’, ‘red pills’ and so-called ‘men’s rights activists’ and report them”. You're putting the cart before the horse. You go in and propose legislation and after it gets rejected you protest. Is there some historical precedent for this being effective? I'm actually not convinced that we ought to start protesting just yet. It's likely going to be far wise to go door to door, and ask our neighbors what are things troubling them most? They'll likely answer having enough money to eat each week, getting higher-paying jobs, having less tax money taken out of their pocket ea…	/r/MensRights	23/08/22 09:24 AM
10	Backlash against sex-positive feminism rising among women On a more fundamental level than even that: Promiscuous people of both genders make for spouses and LTRs who are likely to cheat. This is indicative of a serious lack of impulse control. And let's not forget that this sort of behavior nearly obliterated the gay community during the height of The AIDS epidemic, and has wiped out large portions of Subsaharan Africa. Straight men and women choose to slut it up at our own peril	/r/MensRights	23/08/22 08:05 AM
0	Dad fuming after ex lets their 7-year-old watch Love Island That kid's probably consumed a few hundred hours of Pornhub by now. Pops is bent out of shape over the wrong fucking thing	/r/MensRights	23/08/22 07:58 AM
2	Why popular feminist usage of "Punching up" is hate speech It's probably inevitable that MRAs will eventually get up on the hate speech bandwagon, just as every other activist clique in history has. Hell, the movement's leadership has long been practicing a social suppression of free speech, by screeching "Blue Pill" anytime someone says something that challenges the party line, and mischaracterizing all dissenters within The MRM's rank and file as "fifth column feminists". Nonetheless, I can't help myself: For God's sake, let's not emulate The Woke Lef…	/r/MensRights	23/08/22 07:56 AM
27	National Coalition for Men I've heard the National Coalition for men have outed sexual assault accusers. From what I know, these were accusations that took place on college campuses. They outed them after the cases were dropped for lack of evidence. My question to y'all is was the National Coalition for Men wrong for this? If not, why? Not at all. Criminal defendants and their accusers aren't given anonymity anywhere else, EXCEPT when sex is playing a central role. This says more about our culture's warped beliefs about…	/r/MensRights	23/08/22 07:17 AM
1	Bravely Barefoot's Laura Linmar Interview with Sean Kullman on Boys, Men, and Going Forward Quote the article: "Data around the diseases of despair (suicide, drugs, and alcohol) would suggest that millions of men and boys are seriously depressed. Over-medicated boys and the alienation of boys in schools and culture are creating a generation of apathetic men who are marginalized and purposeless, what Warren Farrell called the purpose void. " Let's everyone note that this is nothing new https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ Warren Farrell(a well-meaning guy, who I mean no disrespec…	/r/MensRights	23/08/22 05:29 AM
1	KMGH: As Mental Health Is More Widely Acknowledged, Men Still Struggle Talking about it's not too shabby. It's also not a replacement for agitating for not only jettisoning the APA's guidelines on men and boys, but providing more readily accessible training in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy(an umbrella term for the handful of psychotherapies for which we have substantial empirical evidence for)to practicing shrinks, the majority of whom have little to no training in psychotherapy, beyond what the brief overviews they get in university If we're serious about making pr…	/r/MensRights	23/08/22 05:08 AM
6	Backlash against sex-positive feminism rising among women This all depends on how one defines sex positivity for both men and women alike: If we're talking the sort of braindead shit organizations like The GLF in the 70s, and later on Sex Panic was pulling back in the 90s, when they both touted a lifetime of promiscuity as something that everyone should aspire to, and rejected monogamy and marriage as "bourgeois values"(Similar to prominent MRAs today, who vacillate between telling men to treat the opposite sex like pump and dumps, or to avoid women al…	/r/MensRights	23/08/22 04:58 AM
7	It's been 5 years since being falsely accused, and psychologically I'm still not the same anymore Sucks to read that that happened to you. Regrettably, you've experienced an immense trauma, and like most traumas, it's likely rewired your brain. Not to be a downer, but just stating facts: You may NEVER be exactly as you were prior. Silver lining on this darkest of thunderclouds though..... You have immense power over how distressed you are over these events, via becoming conscious of your own thoughts and beliefs about them. Find yourself some books on Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, and a shri…	/r/MensRights	23/08/22 03:15 AM
2	Is hypergamy real?? (some real life counter-examples) It's not wise to tear an old structure down without a solid plan in place for something to replace it. There's not to much to tear down, insofar as the contemporary MRM goes. Flagship MRA organizations like AVFM and HBR have always existed almost entirely online, and their site traffic's been declining precipitously since '19. The local chapter of NCFM are on the ground doing splendid work with men who are in need, but the national headquarters is a shadow of it's glory days in the 80s, where th…	/r/MensRights	23/08/22 03:01 AM
1	"Heads of charities say teachers should be on the lookout for talk of the ‘manosphere’, ‘red pills’ and so-called ‘men’s rights activists’ and report them”. All this handwringing over whether or not our foreskins get lopped off is a dead end cause, on par with the stale debate over reparation for slavery. We can propose policies for things like shared parenting legislation, ending The Drug War, and abolishing most forms of welfare, in favor of putting people into steady legit work + providing those who want it with vocational training, so that they can gain upward mobility. We just won't get those things, until we start accumulating widespread publi…	/r/MensRights	23/08/22 01:52 AM
2	"Heads of charities say teachers should be on the lookout for talk of the ‘manosphere’, ‘red pills’ and so-called ‘men’s rights activists’ and report them”. I couldn't agree more in regards to the necessity of lawmakers being on our side. This current iteration of The MRM fucked itself from the very get-go; under the faux leadership of folks like Paul Elam(who admits outright that he spent the 90s and 2000s gagging on Tom Leykis's penis, then shot to fame himself by pretty much recycling TL's act), and the self-identified "artists and freaks" who make up HBR. We've been acting like shock jocks, rather than political strategists and salesmen; hell, m…	/r/MensRights	23/08/22 01:03 AM
1	Is hypergamy real?? (some real life counter-examples) Yeah; nothing that todays MRAs and Ayatollahs Of Red Pill Theology are saying is especially new. Just check out the dates on all of the following https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ https://archive.org/details/Radioutlaw-PlayboyColumnistAsaBaberMantalkInterviewPart1706-2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d28usWdvmSg https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106820029 Neil F. Scott coined the phrase Nice Guy Syndrome back in The 80s, and his protege Robert Glover expanded upon i…	/r/MensRights	23/08/22 12:50 AM
1	Is hypergamy real?? (some real life counter-examples) Best exploration of this idea to date https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFZHXOZVTr8 We could benefit from taking more collective steps back such as this, and subjecting the tenets of Red Pill Theology to the same rigor and skepticism that we apply to all other forms of dogma	/r/MensRights	22/08/22 10:08 PM
6	Guys Aren't Believed in Life/Death (Propaganda)👼 It just feels like we're in this weird like purgatory limbo state where nobody can hear us or perceive us Men's advocates ARE definitely in a propaganda and political battle with powerful feminist lobbies and even some vanilla conservatives who cling to shallow ideas about what it means to be "a real man". People will continue to not hear us, until we start admitting to ourselves that we're essentially selling a product to the public at large when we introduce "men's issues" to them; they ain'…	/r/MensRights	22/08/22 10:04 PM
7	"Heads of charities say teachers should be on the lookout for talk of the ‘manosphere’, ‘red pills’ and so-called ‘men’s rights activists’ and report them”. We men could actually benefit from leaving Red Pill jargon back in the '10s where it belongs, and speaking in plain language once again. This wasn't always the way men's advocacy worked( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d28usWdvmSg https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ https://archive.org/details/Radioutlaw-PlayboyColumnistAsaBaberMantalkInterviewPart1706-2 https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106820029 , just for starters)and it doesn't need to be today either Since about …	/r/MensRights	22/08/22 09:36 PM
2	Women demand Men as "Allys" and then completely leave us hanging when we bring up mens issues Devout Jezebel readers likely will deflect all discussions by invoking the word "patriarchy", rather than discussing the topic at hand. Such folks comprise a vanishingly small amount of the population though. Most Americans ARE highly receptive to those who come to them with proposals for higher paying jobs, reduced crime, and few tax dollars going out of their pockets at the end of the year. When can get to men's issues, by homing in on these subjects that The MRM's leadership themselves have l…	/r/MensRights	22/08/22 04:00 PM
1	Are you afraid of reinstating military conscription in your country? I never claimed that the draft alone prevents governments from military adventurism. What it does do, when it's universal and only contains barely any exemptions: It makes the public less casual about governments(at least here in The West)whimsically going to war, when it's one's own son, daughter, brother, or sister being shipped off to some obscure Third World shithole where very few Westerners have been prior. Vietnam dragged on as long as it did, in no small part thanks to exceptions to the …	/r/MensRights	22/08/22 10:23 AM
23	Women demand Men as "Allys" and then completely leave us hanging when we bring up mens issues It's really only been Woke/Woke-leaning celebrity women who've been speaking vaguely about "male allies", without ever really being specific about what that means; the other 99% of not only the female population but the rest of The US is both ignorant of "men's issues" and consumed with the grueling task of just staying above water from week to week. There's no way around the fact that the words "men's issues" and "The Men's Rights Movement" are heavily unpopular with almost everyone who's not i…	/r/MensRights	22/08/22 10:03 AM
1	Are you afraid of reinstating military conscription in your country? I'm sorry mate, but this is such a bs! The Draft has not prevented America from military adventurism back in the days. It has only made innocent Americans suffer and has made it possible for the elites to dispose over large amounts of "soldiers". Or I should rather say slaves. I must clarify: Bringing back the draft alone won't be enough. We need to also end The White House's power to bypass Congress, whenever they've got the hankering to go to war. This is what allowed them to get away with bot…	/r/MensRights	22/08/22 08:44 AM
1	What org is the most active and helpful at fighting for men's rights? "Read about the 1975 NYC garbage strike. When you leverage your collective power, you can achieve a whole lot. Perhaps reminding society that it is carried on the backs of working class men will bend more ears than lambasting men like a fucking tradcon for not living up to your idea of 'masculinity'." No argument from me. We'll continue to remain stagnant, until we spend less time behind our keyboards and more time out in our communities, meeting our neighbors face to face and hammering home a…	/r/MensRights	22/08/22 07:39 AM
1	The tale of Delphine LaLaurie It is easy to say that when the ongoing effects of it are not your problem. ADOS people still have to deal with the effects of western imperialism and supremacy to this day. Indeed they do. And if one goes and visits people living in literal dirt poverty in Subsaharan Africa or Central America, they'll say "Help me by getting me clean drinking water and decent housing today, rather than fretting over things Cecil Rhodes and Pizzaro did centuries ago." Similar is true of men in modern America W…	/r/MensRights	22/08/22 06:10 AM
1	Are you afraid of reinstating military conscription in your country? There's a strong case for bringing conscription back, only this time have it apply to both genders, similar to what's done in Israel. Here in The US anyway, it's become easy for Washington to launch acts of military adventurism, in no small part thanks to the fact that we've relegated warfare to a small subsection of our civilization. People get less lackadaisical about going to war, when it's their son, daughter, brother, or sister being sent into the firing line though The leadership of The …	/r/MensRights	22/08/22 03:00 AM
-3	My sister said staying in my house all day makes me an incel Lots of us have been working from home since The Pandemic. This social isolation is part of the problem	/r/MensRights	22/08/22 02:09 AM
1	“Feminists” today give actual feminism a bad rep Feminists have never been on our side anyway. Our devoting so much energy to griping about all the ways they've done us dirty, to the exclusion of talking about what legal and policy reforms we'd like to see, then getting serious about waging a series of tooth and nail political fights to achieve those victories, hasn't been helpful	/r/MensRights	22/08/22 01:27 AM
0	POV when men doing the dirty jobs are on strike: This reminds me of a parallel at least a few of us have noted between The MRM's failure to gain much public support, and Democrats failing to draw many voters in local elections around the nation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNdfVSPixsE0:44-1:53 We here at The MRM have also failed to "run on what we've got", by exploiting stories like the one in The OP, and instead devoted the majority of our energy to caterwauling over the fact that the public didn't rally behind us, just because we shoute…	/r/MensRights	22/08/22 01:23 AM
4	My sister said staying in my house all day makes me an incel Sorry to read that you're having a rough time, especially as someone who deals with social anxiety myself. I highly recommend you find yourself a well-trained cognitive behavioral therapist to deal with your being triggered whenever you leave the house, Vall. Long term, this is a recipe for an even more agonizing life than the one you seem to have had thus far	/r/MensRights	22/08/22 12:52 AM
1	Thoughts on Roma Army? They aren't comparable in terms of traffic. I'm not sure about AVFM, HBR received, at least on the videos YouTube recommended me from that period, around 500 views. Even if you doubled that it's below 1% of what views Roma gets. Dunno how their specs during the height of GamerGate and the most incidneary days of The Trump administration compare Roma's current numbers, nonetheless AVFM and HBR were hardly down at MundaneMatt levels during their respective heydays. Again, let's not overlook the …	/r/MensRights	22/08/22 12:48 AM
-14	My sister said staying in my house all day makes me an incel Sounds like you've got more serious problems than not getting laid. Namely, some sort of social anxiety	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 11:01 PM
2	BroEnergy, my subreddit, the return Cool. If we can get more groups like this meeting out in reality, even better	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 08:31 PM
2	The tale of Delphine LaLaurie Quote the article: "There are many elements in this story that contradict the feminist historical narrative." This error was called back as far back at least the early 10s, when the movie 12 Years A Slave was released; Sarah Paulson's character was depicted as being no less troubled and malevolent than her slave breaker of a husband. As to whether or not LaLaurie was any worse than her fellow slaveholders, or whether or not queens in the Middle Ages were more warlike than their male counterparts…	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 08:25 PM
1	Thoughts on Roma Army? She's found an opportunity to make money and somehow attracted a large following. Something which is neigh impossible for MRA channels It may be nigh impossible here in '22. During their heyday in the 10s though, flagship MRA organizations like AVFM and HBR were hardly going broke. Paul Elam accumulated enough cash via donations and offering "counseling services" of dubious merit to move out of state three times, and he ain't renting the house he lives in now. As for HBR https://www.youtube.co…	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 08:11 PM
2	Thoughts on Roma Army? She's no different from what's been mistaken for "activism" around men's issues since about '14. Her idea of sociopolitical engagement doesn't extend very far beyond posting crap on social media, then pretending that this in and of itself makes a difference. Her intentions may be very humane, nonetheless like most self-identified MRAs, she trades primarily in theatrical gestures	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 08:07 PM
2	What org is the most active and helpful at fighting for men's rights? For "men's rights" specifically? In Canada, there's CAFE(though I don't know what sort of shape their in these days)and in The US, the local chapters of NCFM are on the ground, doing gritty and unglamorous work with men in need. These folks are genuine heroes Otherwise, there really isn't a movement agitating for equality before the law and unhindered access to opportunity in those areas where this doesn't exist out in reality; The MRM is largely a subculture that exists almost entirely online…	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 08:00 PM
4	Has anyone else noticed this little switch-up? Is it just me or do feminists have a habit of using logic when stats fail them, and stats when logic fails them? In my experience, especially with spaces on the internet like quora, and streamers such as Sweet Anita(I have respect for her but she has some interesting views) that they tend to use logic when it suits their views and try to prove the stats wrong and tend to use stats to try to negate people's logic? That's the difference between rationalism and empiricism. One can use reason and …	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 08:26 AM
12	Why there are almost no debates between men and feminists? We've been operating under the delusion that facts and evidence alone are going to win converts among those who are unaware, on the fence, or perhaps even mildly hostile. This ignores a key reality; Facts, evidence, and reason have a minimal effect on what decisions we ultimately make, including the narratives we choose to believe. Values, on the other hand, are where the tipping point is at The MRM's failure to achieve much is in no small part attributable to the fact that we haven't made "men'…	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 04:10 AM
2	Why there are almost no debates between men and feminists? Why there are almost no debates between men and feminists? Debates are a lousy means of persuading those who are skeptical and even mildly hostile towards your ideas and goals to come around to your point of view. Much more effective to grab a copy of Chris Voss's book "Never Split The Difference", Leil Lowndes's "How To Talk To Anyone", and also to visit Sam Taggart's YouTube channel+read everything he's written on successful salesmanship. Building rapport and then elucidating for the unconve…	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 03:53 AM
3	Kari Lake eschews feminist dogma This is were the hope for the future lies. Not with 5-6 women on YouTube who identify as MRAs, yet who's activity doesn't extend very far beyond screeching about how much they hate feminism, but with "ordinary" women on all sides of the political aisle who are amenable to supporting at least some of the reforms we claim to desire. If we're serious about winning the hearts and minds of a large cross section of America, going the route of ICMI(since about '19, it's become a circle jerk among a han…	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 03:39 AM
32	Anti-abortion activists in Massachusetts are trying to 'modernize' the pro-life movement: 'We think men should be responsible' Quote the article: ""We believe men should be responsible and be fathers and not use abortion as a kind of after-the-fact contraception or get out of jail free card," Beckwith said." Apparently, this fella lives in some alternate reality where men get a say in whether or not a chick aborts or not at all. I'm not even complaining mind you; it's politically untenable for us to think that we do much about this from a legal or policy standpoint	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 03:27 AM
3	Women that sexualize themselves, but complain about society sexualizing them are a whole new breed of scum. This isn't new. As a child, I recall multiple instances in which chicks walked outside in micro skirts and their cleavage hanging out, then became angry when people(not all of them men either)gawked and admired	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 03:08 AM
1	One False Claim - Lie #2 hank you for the response. I think my ex-wife had called almost every lawyer in town because everyone I call says there's a "conflict of interest". I take it you live in a pretty small town. I'm not being facetious here either; there's no way she called every lawyer in a 50 mile radius, if you're living in a major metropolitan area	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 02:25 AM
2	Gabrielle Blair, a blogger has called for mandatory vasectomies of boys at puberty and she defends circumcision as well. How do these women not see that boys routinely being circumcised at birth is a violation of their bodily autonomy? I wouldn't turn scoff at an ad like the one you're proposing. Insofar as making people care about men's issues goes, I'm inclined to recall these words from Leil Lowndes's How To Talk To Anyone.... No one cares what you think, until you show that you care about them in some way. "Men's issues" are going to continue to remain a niche hobby among a handful of people on social media, until we start connecting them to the problems that are foremost in the minds of most Americans Under the influence …	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 02:22 AM
3	Gabrielle Blair, a blogger has called for mandatory vasectomies of boys at puberty and she defends circumcision as well. How do these women not see that boys routinely being circumcised at birth is a violation of their bodily autonomy? Or we can just be simple normal people and let the truth shine through our actions. The way many of us have acted has definitely diminished the prospects of the larger public taking us seriously. Entirely too many men have followed the example put forth by the most prominent figures in The MRM, by growing out their neckbeards, deliberately dressing like kids in middle school, getting up on infantile bandwagons like Gamergate, and speaking exclusively in Manosphere jargon. It's tough to blame s…	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 01:50 AM
2	My friend. Maybe ex best friend says shit about masculinity. I really dont like him anymore for his toxic feminism what shall i do ? Make a choice to either not focus on this aspect of his personality and enjoy all the aspects of his personality that you enjoy, or make the split official. You won't convince a religious fanatic of any kind(be they a feminist, a Wahabi, an Evangelical Christian, or someone who identifies as Red Pilled)to become less dogmatic	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 01:19 AM
8	One False Claim - Lie #2 Sorry to read that you're going through a tough time. I highly urge you to shop around for a lawyer who's both honest and willing to work on a sliding scale. Yeah, one has to search for such practitioners; as John Cleese observed, roughly 10-15% of all people in any profession are competent. Nonetheless, such attorney are out there. The longer you go without representation, the more drawn out and complicated your case is going to get	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 01:15 AM
12	This is a reminder that Cardi B used to drug and rob men. Cardi B isn't even getting the amount of detraction that Amy Schemer received for admitting to forcing herself on a drunk guy during her university days. This says more about our ideas about sex than it does anything else. We write off those who drug people for the purposes of robbery as roguish or sleazy, but still socially acceptable. It's not until allegations that someone not only drugged someone else, but felt them up or penetrated their genitals that we get bent out of shape Apparently, …	/r/MensRights	21/08/22 01:09 AM
1	Women were already tired. Then 2022 happened Disengaging and defensive is better for now. That's exactly what we've been doing since '15; retreating from society, and waiting on everything to fall, so that we build The Kingdom Of Red Pill Heaven on Earth. If we really think that life on the ground has to be perfect before we start playing offensive, it'll be another millennia before we take action. Disengaging("Vote with your feet" to quote Paul Elam himself) isn't the way that ANY demographic in America has ever won it's freedom, and th…	/r/MensRights	20/08/22 11:03 PM
3	Gabrielle Blair, a blogger has called for mandatory vasectomies of boys at puberty and she defends circumcision as well. How do these women not see that boys routinely being circumcised at birth is a violation of their bodily autonomy? A larger obstacle to success is that we've emulated The Woke Left, by talking about "our issues" as if they exist separately from the troubles which pester America on a national level. Walk up to the other 99% of the population(aka. The folks who's support we need to secure, if we're to achieve any of the legislative and policy reforms we desire)and start babbling about Red Pills, Blue Pills, Gynoncentrism, Feminism, and Cultural Marxism.... 9 times out of 10, they'll respond by rolling their ey…	/r/MensRights	20/08/22 09:36 PM
6	Gabrielle Blair, a blogger has called for mandatory vasectomies of boys at puberty and she defends circumcision as well. How do these women not see that boys routinely being circumcised at birth is a violation of their bodily autonomy? We humans sympathize more readily with all creatures which APPEAR cute and cuddly, be they koala bears or attractive young women. The MRM's stock and trade since about '15 has been railing against the unfairness of this, and calling for psychological overhaul of our species, so that we don't automatically think like this This approach, not surprisingly, hasn't been gainful. We men are going to have to be a lot more innovative than the ladies are, when it comes to getting our needs and desires …	/r/MensRights	20/08/22 09:17 PM
1	Women were already tired. Then 2022 happened "Like I said, men are invisible shits that don't deserve coverage or recognition, except the 6 figures 6 feet 6 pack crowd. The rest of us sorry fucks exist to serve." We'll continue to not get much coverage or recognition, as long as we're relying on the press and society to change without us taking sociopolitical action out in reality, where it really counts. Analogize here to gays in America, before The 1970s and 80s: The media didn't discuss them much at all prior, and when they did their …	/r/MensRights	20/08/22 08:49 PM
7	Women were already tired. Then 2022 happened Quote the article: "CNN asked women how they are handling the curveballs of 2022. Hundreds responded telling us they have more to worry about than ever — and more than 3,500 reacted after Roe v. Wade was overturned. School shootings, inflation, work-life imbalance and the ongoing baby formula shortage are just a few of the themes they focused on." If CNN really wants to help these broads, the least they could do would be to provide links to the Beck Institute For Cognitive Behavioral Therapy s…	/r/MensRights	20/08/22 07:57 PM
1	To like music, be young, and not want to “settle down” is to be sexist. A novel is accused of creating a Generation of Sociopathic “Nice Guys” Popular Cultures relentless takes down of men is nauseati Yeah; enough people read High Fidelity for it to have that sort of effect	/r/MensRights	20/08/22 07:43 PM
2	What is some everyday sexism that men have to face? Dunno if this counts as "sexism", or if it's more apt for us to write it off as simple ignorance and prejudice, nonetheless: If you're a guy, there's no discussing the problems with rape shield laws and the monstrous ways in which Title IX "prosecutes" rape accusations on university campuses around the nation with a woman/more than one woman, unless you've built substantial rapport with her/them already. Even then, there's a strong chance that the ladies will initially have a knee jerk reactio…	/r/MensRights	20/08/22 10:16 AM
56	Gabrielle Blair, a blogger has called for mandatory vasectomies of boys at puberty and she defends circumcision as well. How do these women not see that boys routinely being circumcised at birth is a violation of their bodily autonomy? They don’t see it as a violation of bodily autonomy because it doesn’t directly affect her audience. Roe V Wade overturning is an egregious attack on civil rights in her eyes, but because the other issue doesn’t affect her it is meaningless. This is our species for ya. No demographic who was disadvantaged in some way ever progressed by doing what most of us moderns mistake for activism today; shaking our fists at "the enemy" from behind our keyboards, and thinking that this will bring us what …	/r/MensRights	20/08/22 09:54 AM
10	Gabrielle Blair, a blogger has called for mandatory vasectomies of boys at puberty and she defends circumcision as well. How do these women not see that boys routinely being circumcised at birth is a violation of their bodily autonomy? If we develop technology that will allow us to foretell which boys will eventually father the next Stefan Molyneux, Stephen Colbert, Trevor Noah, and Carl Benjamin, then by all means, let's put the scrotums of such fellas to the scalpel, before they even get to the second base with a chick. Hell, if that same technology allows us to foretell which girls will eventually birth the next Honey Boo Boo, Marjorie Taylor Green, Amy Schemer, and Nancy Pelosi, let's be true to the principles of gender eq…	/r/MensRights	20/08/22 09:50 AM
2	What is the dumbest claim of misogyny you've seen/heard? (please read description) I'm fond of jokes that some might consider "dirty" and which are often sexual in nature. One FELLA i know, who's very much a stereotypical white liberal who digs crap like Robin DeAngelo, accused me of being a sexist/misognynist as a result	/r/MensRights	20/08/22 09:42 AM
1	In which areas do you think that women's rights are lacking when compared to men's rights? Do you think that these differences constitute an issue for the men's rights movement? The most substantial challenges facing both men and women today are ones of human development, not rights, which are ultimately matters of law. Examples: Yeah, making shared parenting legislation the law of the land is desirable, not just for men, but for America. This doesn't negate the reality that men and women alike are still going to need to be much more selective about who we choose to marry than many of us are currently. Getting folks to spend less time binge watching Netflix or listening…	/r/MensRights	20/08/22 09:30 AM
3	Women complaining about lack of available slavemasters Quote the article: "In her paper entitled Sisterhood and Slavery: Transatlantic Antislavery and Women’s Rights, Karen Offen, Institute for Research on Women & Gender, Stanford University, takes a jaunt through history to justify the use of the word or analogy “slavery” as comparable to the status of women, especially married women from circa the 1650’s to 1848" Get rid of things like Institutes for Research on Women and Gender on our university campuses, and the amount of misinformation in our s…	/r/MensRights	20/08/22 09:10 AM
4	Pregnant but no contact. Misandry by the truckload. Getting her to stay with her baby daddy might have been easier than you imagined. Say something to this chick/those of her ilk like the following: "Raising your child on your own is perfectly okay. You're a smart girl, who'll land an eight figure job within the next few years, and I can already tell that you're thrifty also. This will all come in handy, when your fatherless son drifts into delinquency, and racks up a string of felonies by the time he's in the 9th grade. Criminal defense attorney…	/r/MensRights	19/08/22 03:57 AM
3	Fighting Back Bettina Arndt doesn't identify as an MRA. Props to her for having the guts to openly take feminist dogma to task for it's irrationality though	/r/MensRights	19/08/22 03:45 AM
1	is feminism dying and apparently it's growing stronger in Canada. Christian morals are sorry of the basis of western civilization, after all. Among other influences, such as Greco-Roman thought, and the work of Ibn Rushd and Spinoza The distortion of some, such as male disposability, are obviously bad, but unlike feminism the other two at least have some sort of moral standards. Male disposability has rapidly become another buzzword that doesn't tell listeners and readers anything. We've got to start being more specific about what changes we'd like to se…	/r/MensRights	19/08/22 02:55 AM
1	Jake and the Map of Men MRM has rock stars…? In the same way Greta Thunberg, AOC, and Bill McKibben are "rock stars" among The Green Movement. The bar is below sea level here in '22	/r/MensRights	19/08/22 02:31 AM
3	A reminder of sacrifices that often go unnoticed: 'Dark Knight' Shooting: 3 Boyfriends Die Shielding Girlfriends During Aurora Massacre (VIDEO, PHOTO) This story and others that one inevitably encounters after Googling "Guy saves woman from being raped" or the like reminds me of a parallel between The MRM's disastrous PR thus far and the recent blunders of The Democratic Party https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNdfVSPixsE Especially what's said between 1. 0:32-2:00 and 2. 3:30-3:52 Rallying public support behind "men's issues" is going to require us to similarly go out in our neighborhoods and communities, for the express purpose of gloating, …	/r/MensRights	19/08/22 01:29 AM
2	is feminism dying and apparently it's growing stronger in Canada. Feminism is an ideology, just like those two I mentioned. And it currently exerts an influence over our institutions similar to Salafism's influence over politics in The Near East, and Evangelical Christianity's influence over politics from the 80s-late 2000s. It's impractical and unconstitutional to think that we can wipe feminism off of the face of the map, nonetheless hobbling them politically is concrete, tangible goal, which also happens to be achievable on a practical level We've got to ge…	/r/MensRights	18/08/22 10:27 PM
2	is feminism dying and apparently it's growing stronger in Canada. Feminism has only ever really been strong with upper middle class(and mostly white)people in areas of the nation like The Upper East Side and Malibu. Unfortunately, those folks are frequently politically well-connected, thus feminist theory's influence on policy is disproportionate in comparison to the number of those who consider themselves True Believers Things won't change, until we start acknowledging that "men's issues" are essentially a product that we've got to the sell the general public…	/r/MensRights	18/08/22 09:37 PM
1	Bye, Bye Duluth Model, Bye, Bye Narrative: More Men Than Women Are Raped in the US I'm such a child. So much so, I take you less seriously than an episode of Sponge Bob	/r/MensRights	18/08/22 08:59 PM
3	According to a survey conducted in the UK 50 Percent of GenZ men believe feminism has gone too far. https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3zxmy/gen-z-men-attitudes-towards-feminism The Alt-Right and The Ayatollahs Of Red Pill Theology deserve minimal credit for "awakening" men to the logical follies of feminism. This has been apparent for a long time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d28usWdvmSg https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ https://archive.org/details/Radioutlaw-PlayboyColumnistAsaBaberMantalkInterviewPart1706-2 Plus check out Neil F Scott and Robert Glover's writings on Nice Guy Syndrome(the former coined the term back in the 80s. The latter wrote his seminal…	/r/MensRights	18/08/22 08:42 PM
3	is feminism dying and apparently it's growing stronger in Canada. Feminism, like Salaifism and Evangelical Christianity, is going to be with us for the foreseeable future. There's an intellectual argument to be made that life would be a lot simpler, had these social movements never taken root.... Alas, they happened, and there's no turning back the clock We're just causing ourselves emotional agony, by pining away for a Utopia that's free of not only feminists, but folks who cling to ideologies that we personally find objectionable	/r/MensRights	18/08/22 02:35 PM
1	Meanwhile in Germany.... "Well, I understand when Jane Q says that. But John Q? A lot, if not all, of his day to day burdens are the result of this societal gynocentrism and misandry. How can changing that not help John Q? I think the real problem is men themselves. Most of them are blue-pilled, passively taking any suffering imposed on them, not realizing that they are their own worst enemy and that they are digging their own graves. Amazingly, many suddenly wake up and get red-pilled the moment stuff hits them persona…	/r/MensRights	18/08/22 01:29 PM
1	Meanwhile in Germany.... Regrettably, facts alone aren't going to secure the widespread public support we need if we're to achieve legal and policy reform. We've been rehashing data like the link you've provided for a long fucking time now, with the expectation that the other 99% of America should care about all the things that MRAs care about For the most part though, when we recite our laundry list of concerns and the data which backs these concerns up to John and Jane Q public, they almost always retort "I'm sorry to…	/r/MensRights	18/08/22 06:35 AM
0	Jake and the Map of Men Funny that article mentions "Jake" reading The Myth Of Male Power. Warren Farrell WAS the real life version of Jake "back when this whole feminist thing started". Hell, as we can see from this archival footage, he was practically one of it's architects https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJtxclegHL4 Yet, he's pretty much become to the modern MRM what Rachel Carson has become to environmentalists. THE patron saint, who's every word is to be venerated and never questioned Men's advocacy wasn't alway…	/r/MensRights	18/08/22 05:42 AM
1	Bye, Bye Duluth Model, Bye, Bye Narrative: More Men Than Women Are Raped in the US Quote what I wrote in it's entirety, before you try to refute my words. Otherwise, your rant reeks of intellectual dishonesty	/r/MensRights	18/08/22 05:28 AM
0	Meanwhile in Germany.... HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? ITS ONLY MEN WHO DO SUCH THINGS! In the land of Eva Braun and Ilsa, She Wolf Of The SS, things work much differently than they do here. We're the nation the created The Disney Princess, after all	/r/MensRights	18/08/22 02:02 AM
1	Child Custody "What are your thoughts on this?" -Try like hell not to lapse into arguments with those whom you know personally out in the world. We're out to persuade people to come around to our point of view and support our goals: Having a dialectic with those who are on the fence or even somewhat hostile is more effective http://macyoungsmusings.blogspot.com/2021/04/10-points-on-understanding-other-sides.html -Contrary to what we've been taught by the keyboard warriors and 23rd tier performance artists…	/r/MensRights	18/08/22 01:43 AM
6	Feminism is losing. Feminism will almost certainly cease to be front and center in the headlines at some point in the future. Sadly, they're not likely going away anytime soon. Waiting for this to happen before we begin to take sociopolitical action out on the ground in regards to things we claim to care about(agitating for shared parenting legislation, an end to a war on drugs which overwhelmingly locks up men, and increased access to vocational training)is a recipe for us continuing to not see much progress	/r/MensRights	18/08/22 01:12 AM
6	Misandry sells It definitely sells. Thor and Jane should have both been flicked. Or just Jane. Oh wait lol Love And Thunder bombed on account of the producers tampering with a much-beloved name brand. Audiences didn't buy in subsequently. The MRM has, in a sense, committed a similar error. Feminists lobbies have duped a large portion of the public into believing that they're on the side of the vulnerable and disenfranchised, when they support legislation and polices which have been heavily influenced by femi…	/r/MensRights	18/08/22 12:33 AM
7	Misandry sells Misandry sells You highlight a point that's far too often overlooked within MRA circles. We're ARE selling something(the notion that men don't have it all just by virtue of being born male, and that we have difficulties of our own that demand attention), and the general public is made up of potential consumers and converts. For the most part though, the leadership of this current iteration of The MRM have chosen to behave like middle school kids who are locked in an eternal flame war with the …	/r/MensRights	17/08/22 09:35 PM
1	Bye, Bye Duluth Model, Bye, Bye Narrative: More Men Than Women Are Raped in the US "The public will never support men's rights, but they can be shamed into supporting sex equality for real instead of the fake women-only bullshit type of "equality"." Yeah; when the terms "men's rights" and "Men's Rights Movement" continue to be unpopular among voters and the public at large, this raises questions as to why we persist in opening conversations with those terms, whenever we're approaching non-MRA constituents "The only way to do that is to undermine feminism by getting into th…	/r/MensRights	17/08/22 09:18 PM
3	Bye, Bye Duluth Model, Bye, Bye Narrative: More Men Than Women Are Raped in the US Feminists are pro-rape and pro-domestic violence in pursuit of their agenda of hate. We've made an immense tactical error, by not hitting feminists hard on these points. While The MRM itself may be highly unpopular among voters and the public at large, crime and safe neighborhoods are inevitably among the top 5 worries of most Americans, in almost every survey one reads. Persuading a large cross-section of the public to come around to our side requires that we start hammering home all the ways…	/r/MensRights	17/08/22 03:29 AM
-2	There’s a saying: “If everyone hates you, it’s probably your fault”. There’s a saying: “If everyone hates you, it’s probably your fault” Context definitely matters here: If you're a Scientologist who has little to no contact with anyone who isn't part of the church, and folks start to become hostile towards you, after you begin to question church dogma.... Well, this isn't a matter of "fault" so much as it is a clash of values. Empiricism Vs Dogmatism, namely On the other hand, if you're a manager at Walmart in a large metropolitan area, who finds that everyo…	/r/MensRights	17/08/22 03:19 AM
-1	Comparison of androcide and femicide searches It's weird how this gets framed in that manner when one half of that is completely ignoredOne side seemingly has all the power and gets all of the attention. A tug of war suggests both sides are at least somewhat equal when that isn't the case. Fine; we're signing up for yet another arm wrestling match in which we're hopelessly underpowered, whenever we start playing "Who's got it worse?" with feminists. We men lose every time we walk right into this one, and we're going to keep losing Posit…	/r/MensRights	17/08/22 02:59 AM
1	Bye, Bye Duluth Model, Bye, Bye Narrative: More Men Than Women Are Raped in the US Good points, but raising awareness is easier said than done, especially given how woke issues are promoted and many non woke facts censored. Another way to think about this.... The most prominent folks in The MRM have been modern day equivalents of the shock jocks of yesteryear(Paul Elam, the most famous MRA on the planet, admits outright that he mistook Tom Leykis for a Holy Prophet, and pretty much ripped off his entire act), who've excelled at acting like fools on YouTube for the express pu…	/r/MensRights	17/08/22 02:18 AM
-4	'Privileged' White Working Class Boys to Fall Further Behind In Education Given that "men's rights" is heavily unpopular with voters and the general public alike, this raises questions as to why we persist in even using that term. Or why we're still trying to persuade everyday people whom we share the planet with to come around to our side, by walking up to them and saying "How 'bout men's issues?", when we know that this is just going to get doors slammed in our faces It may just be more effective for us to start instead opening conversations with non-MRA constitue…	/r/MensRights	17/08/22 01:53 AM
1	What is your argument against someone claim that "Gynocentrism is MRA's version of Patriarchy, so its a equally dumb concept" Not quoting what I wrote in full makes you look intellectually dishonest . It's a non-sequitur leap of Olympian proportions to say that just because we humans often sympathize more readily with women than we do men, especially attractive young women(no disagreement from me on this front)that society society is focused primarily on what women need. This is the sort of piss-poor logic one finds among feminist, when they assert that the fact most Fortune 500 CEOs and holders of high office are men …	/r/MensRights	17/08/22 01:30 AM
-2	Comparison of androcide and femicide searches Murder is murder, and human suffering on account of war is human suffering. We're not helping ourselves, by getting into this tug of war of "Who has it worse?" with feminists and women more generally. Worse yet, we're walking right into a trap that feminists have set for us, when we go down this road	/r/MensRights	17/08/22 01:20 AM
1	What is your argument against someone claim that "Gynocentrism is MRA's version of Patriarchy, so its a equally dumb concept" This is true and I would hate MRM to devolve into Bizarro-Feminism. It hasn't devolved. The MRM's generalship have just been exposed as being no more or less human and fucked up than the rest of us are. Loudly as MRAs claim that they're Red Pill and beyond society, The MRM was very much a product of the mood that swept over society in the from the late 10s-today But that doesn't negate the facts of rampant preferential treatment of women over men in almost all aspects of public life now. I…	/r/MensRights	17/08/22 01:16 AM
1	Bye, Bye Duluth Model, Bye, Bye Narrative: More Men Than Women Are Raped in the US "Good points, but raising awareness is easier said than done, especially given how woke issues are promoted and many non woke facts censored." "Even then as you said, things like taxes, inflation, jobs, international relations, etc. will take precedent, especially among men." All the more reason to for us to stop leading with "men's issues" when we're discussing these topics. Lead instead with discussing taxes, jobs, access to upward mobility, safe neighborhoods, etc. We can get to men's iss…	/r/MensRights	16/08/22 09:26 PM
2	Bye, Bye Duluth Model, Bye, Bye Narrative: More Men Than Women Are Raped in the US The Duluth Model and Koss false rape statistics were disproven many years ago, yet feminists continue to push these false narratives, people continue to believe them and they continue to be used to justify discrimination against men. That's the way it's going to stay, as long as "men's issues" remain a niche hobby for a handful of folks on social media. We haven't done ourselves any favors, by failing to connect "men's issues" to the problems which are foremost in the minds of most Americans. …	/r/MensRights	16/08/22 08:43 PM
1	Bye, Bye Duluth Model, Bye, Bye Narrative: More Men Than Women Are Raped in the US We're likely never going to have particularly accurate data on rape and sexual assault, for the simple fact that most people of either gender ever report such things. This isn't even getting into the fact that the definition of SA has been vague and elastic from the very get-go. In any event: When Ellen Pence herself admitted later on in life that the theory which underlies The Duluth Model is false/expressed remorse for creating TDM, why the hell are we not bombarding the public with this fact,…	/r/MensRights	16/08/22 08:35 PM
2	What is a Man? (My response to Matt Walsh's hypocrisy regarding child genital mutilation) Walsh has something approaching a point: Buzzwords like "genital integrity", "bodily autonomy", and "Intactivism" are just more opaque ways of saying "I'm opposed to circumcision, for reasons which are purely ideological. No amount of evidence is going to persuade me that this is a dead end cause"	/r/MensRights	16/08/22 08:27 PM
1	why is always the man who must be responsible for a relationship? "10 things good men never do" To that website's credit, the also ran this article https://www.yourtango.com/experts/christian-carter/how-to-be-the-cool-girl Which serves as a counter the one in The OP	/r/MensRights	16/08/22 07:39 PM
1	MRA gives great takedown of anti-MRA propaganda How would we do that Go ask our fellow citizens, most of whom aren't activists or even especially political, what they're chief worries are. They'll reply: The economy, having enough money to pay the bills and still enjoy fun lives, safe neighborhoods, access to upward mobility, securing good housing and state of the art medical care. A few examples of how we can connect men's issues to these "norm-ie" subjects, and by extension secure wide-spread support from the general public: -We've got a …	/r/MensRights	16/08/22 07:05 PM
1	What is your argument against someone claim that "Gynocentrism is MRA's version of Patriarchy, so its a equally dumb concept" That is whataboutism in its finest. In the same way that presenting alternate explanations for The Loch Ness Monster, whenever one encounters a true believer in such things, could be considered "whataboutism". Ya got me!!! You are responding to a post giving you examples. Such as, you know. 2000 (yes, two thousand) higher spending on female gender health issue, vs men's. I don't deny that we humans sympathize more readily with all creatures which appear cute and cuddly, attractive young wo…	/r/MensRights	16/08/22 10:58 AM
1	Did any of you guys notice this angle about the raid on Mar a Lago Thanks, Sawer!!! I can't figure out how or why our fellows haven't figured this stuff out yet. I believe that lots of folks in The MRM's rank and file have recognized Trump for the buffoon that he is since he was first running for office, detestable as Hilary Clinton was. We've just allowed ourselves to be cowed into not expressing disappointment with The Donald, for fear of being the target of a temper tantrum out of Paul Elam, Karen Straughan, Alison Tieman, and the vast majority of The MR…	/r/MensRights	16/08/22 05:39 AM
1	MRA gives great takedown of anti-MRA propaganda Do NOT go down that road. At the very least, denying the basic facts(The Men's Rights Movement is today in the same straits that Environmentalism has been in for the better part of it's existence.... Highly unpopular with voters, and largely seen as niche hobby among a handful of social outcasts by the public at large)hasn't been helpful. We won't be seeing much improvement to our fortunes, until we start making "men's issues" relevant to the day to day worries which are foremost in the minds …	/r/MensRights	16/08/22 05:30 AM
3	I am thinking about starting a Men's (Male-Only) Club and could use advice and critque That's a splendid idea; thus far The MRM's existence has largely been confined to social media, and we could use more of a presence out in reality https://freakonomics.com/podcast/in-praise-of-incrementalism/ Note what she says during the end of that first twenty minutes. As to how you get started: -Put up a notice on Meetup.com, or in paper on every bulletin board you can find, be it in apartment clubhouses, university campuses, churches, etc etc. I encourage you to not mention the words "men's…	/r/MensRights	16/08/22 04:24 AM
1	Why Are You an MRA? I never labelled myself an MRA, even when i was among the movement's rank and file during it's heyday in the mid-10s. While I did and still do have many overlapping areas of agreement with card carrying MRAs, I've always been wary of anyone who speaks of "rights" for their demographic alone, rather than civil rights and human freedom for one and all Today, not only am I thoroughly "Post-MRM", but so is the world in which we're living in now. So much, one could easily and aptly pen an obituary fo…	/r/MensRights	16/08/22 02:36 AM
2	What is your argument against someone claim that "Gynocentrism is MRA's version of Patriarchy, so its a equally dumb concept" But "gynocentrism" it doesn't exist. There's not a clear a definition of what that is. Why else do we think that Paul Elam(the most famous MRA on Earth)and his imitators and lackeys are so fond of hurling this bit of jargon around? Like Woke Warriors babbling endlessly about White Male Hegemonies, privilege, and systems of oppression, they know that these vague and specious terms make it easier for them to not be pinned down on specifics	/r/MensRights	16/08/22 02:11 AM
-2	What is your argument against someone claim that "Gynocentrism is MRA's version of Patriarchy, so its a equally dumb concept" Gynocentrism is the thought that society is focused on what women needs, largely ignoring men This theory ceases to hold water when one starts to notice the disparities which exist between groups of men themselves. The children of residents on The Upper East Side and Beverly Hills-male and female alike-are doing well overall, with men in this socioeconomic bracket often outpacing their female peers..... James Thurston Howell VIII is frequently graduating from Harvard with his MBA at 28, going st…	/r/MensRights	16/08/22 02:06 AM
-2	What is your argument against someone claim that "Gynocentrism is MRA's version of Patriarchy, so its a equally dumb concept" What is your argument against someone claim that "Gynocentrism is MRA's version of Patriarchy, so its a equally dumb concept" I'm frequently among those that call out gynocentrism for being yet another example(White Male Hegemony, Cultural Marxism, Blue Pill/Purple Pill, and Problematic would be a few others) of the hard-on us moderns have for speaking in jargon and buzzwords, while avoiding the use of plain language more assiduously than Emily Ratajkowki avoids the use of clothes. Everyday pe…	/r/MensRights	16/08/22 01:45 AM
2	The Goal Post #03 – The Declaration of Sentiments Those fellas mention the fact that no political party in The US has mentioned men's issues per se, and that the Liberal Democrats in Australia have only done so indirectly. We can add to this the fact that Mike Buchanan's party in The UK failed to have more than a barely-cult following during it's first iteration, and isn't shaping up to be any more powerful now that they've rebranded Fair inference: The way forward is going to be for us to not even use the word "men's rights" at all, and for us…	/r/MensRights	16/08/22 01:30 AM
0	Should Mensrights go more Libertarian instead of thinking leftism is the solution? The MRM's been Alt-Right adjacent since about '16, and just continues to get more so with each passing day. The Libertarian Party has no public support. We're going to have forge ties with both Republicans and Democrats, who are going to be our ruling parties for the foreseeable future	/r/MensRights	16/08/22 12:25 AM
1	Scott Adams, who notably said in 2011 to MRAs "get over it, pussies" in response to MRAs complaining about unfairness that men experience, has now suggested to parents of troubled boys that the only option may be to either "watch people die" or "kill your own son". Dilbert Guy was fortunate enough to have a STEP son who he was able to watch OD on an fentanyl. Somehow, I suspect that had that boy been his flesh and blood, he would've moved heaven and heart to get him into Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for his addictive behavior, and been less than relieved when his son ceased breathing	/r/MensRights	15/08/22 01:08 PM
13	Is it impossible to discuss with people who believe in patriarchy? Is it impossible to discuss with people who believe in patriarchy Your chances of convincing someone who believes in the existence of The Patriarchy that it's little more than a buzzword are more slim than persuading a suicide bomber in the service of Hamas that he's not going to be rewarded with 40 maidens for his efforts. As to whether or not it's impossible to discuss "men's issues" with folks like this..... In my experience, this IS highly possible and often successful, provided that A). Y…	/r/MensRights	15/08/22 12:59 PM
2	MRA gives great takedown of anti-MRA propaganda It's not a snare, that's the whole point. Do you really think feminists are so dumb that they're not deliberately laying this as a rhetorical trap for us to walk right into? It's valid and if feminist don't like it then tough for them. If one is content to keep having circular conversations with all those who are skeptical of the reforms we claim that we want to see happen, by all means, let's persist with "What about...." If we're serious about persuading a large cross section of America(some…	/r/MensRights	15/08/22 12:25 PM
1	MRA gives great takedown of anti-MRA propaganda ALL countries are feminist. And certainly ALL COUNTRIES ARE GYNOCENTRIC This brings us back around to the increasingly elastic definition of words like "feminist" and "gynocentric". If what you're trying to say here is "Bias and prejudice towards men exist in every nation on Earth" then yeah, we're in agreement. The planet is brimming with bias and prejudice against damn near everything Would you also say Nazis and Jews have to learn to live with each other? That’s a very accurate equivalent. …	/r/MensRights	15/08/22 12:16 PM
2	MRA gives great takedown of anti-MRA propaganda Do NOT go down that road Not only have I gone down that road; so has the rest of the planet. The world we're living in today is Post-MRM We must demand our rights as MEN. The sort of identity politics we've been engaged in since about '15 isn't what brought gains for blacks and gays during their respective struggles during The 20th and(in the case of gays)21st Centuries, and it ain't going to bear fruit for us either. Until we start hammering home to the public that ours isn't just a fight…	/r/MensRights	15/08/22 08:33 AM
1	It's time for feminists to say #MenToo I like how this leaves out how much she vehemently hates anyone Muslim All the more hilarious when one realizes that David Duke and Tommy Robinson aren't going to give her a free pass, when the nooses and burning crosses get whipped out. When you've got a name like Hirsan Ali, the crowd she's playing to isn't holding her in the same esteem they hold Anne Coulter in	/r/MensRights	15/08/22 05:40 AM
1	It's time for feminists to say #MenToo In other words "don't attack me for talking about equality - I hate men like the rest of you honestly" Girl did write a book titled Prey, which claimed that men who hail from immigrant families are pre-disposed to rape white Christian women, and called on The EU to clamp down on the number of MEN who are migrating from The Near East and Africa to Western Europe. She's got no objection to women from these same parts of the globe enjoying their freedom of movement	/r/MensRights	15/08/22 05:36 AM
1	It's time for feminists to say #MenToo It's time for feminists to say #MenToo We've been sitting on our hands and waiting on feminists/women more generally to change in some dramatic way, before we so much as contemplate taking sociopolitical action out on the ground, where it really counts. This tepid excuse for a strategy hasn't been fruitful thus far, and it ain't likely to be anytime soon	/r/MensRights	15/08/22 05:31 AM
3	MRA gives great takedown of anti-MRA propaganda Blue And Orange is right on the money, when he laments that describing himself as an MRA primes potential listeners and readers to not hear what he says, much in the way a chick describing herself as a feminist leads folks to expect her to hold certain views, and to be resistant to ideas which challenge the orthodoxies she clings to This prompts us to once again question the wisdom of using the term "men's rights" at all	/r/MensRights	15/08/22 05:27 AM
2	MRA gives great takedown of anti-MRA propaganda Very good. Saying what about is perfectly valid in some situations like men's rights issue because it's reasonable to compare treatment men are getting to see if it's fair. It's also less than cagey for us to keep walking into this particular snare(Saying "What about..." that is)whenever feminists throw it out. It might actually be more effective to start hammering feminists on the many ways current laws and policies actually fail to reduce crime, protect the public, and provide empirically …	/r/MensRights	15/08/22 05:21 AM
1	why do women assume that men don't have feelings? "I mean, do women really think this? That we're all just a bunch of horny psychopaths? Because if so that's extremely sad." On some visceral level, yeah most women probably do harbor biases and prejudices towards men such as the ones you're describing. Just as we men vacillate between viewing women as innocent princesses and money-grubbing succubi, even though these thoughts are often unconscious. Silver lining on this darkest of thunderclouds though: It's not necessary for these prejudices and …	/r/MensRights	15/08/22 04:17 AM
0	Blatant misandry in Netflix show "Never Have I Ever..." S3 "In the last episode of the third season, graduating students give speeches and someone "gave" a speech of Mens rights. Ofc it wasnt shown, only talked about. The school principal then said 'Thank you for the speech about mens rights, in the future I want to read the alumni speeches before hand'. The show talks alot about Feminism and how women are pushed down by the patriarchy, its not all that serious but they mention mens rights once in a "joke", they've mentioned it once in the whole show. E…	/r/MensRights	15/08/22 04:06 AM
11	When you think misandry couldn’t get worse… Someone put up a counter-billboard: "Yo, VOX readers. Go hit Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos up for a slice of power. The other 99% of us men have none to give you"	/r/MensRights	15/08/22 03:39 AM
2	Apparently Now Men Are Single Because Of A " Skills Deficit ". What Skills Are We Talking About Here? I'll re-iterate Don Of Desire's assessment of this situation, as it's the most cogent one that's been offered: Men and women are both suffering from a dearth of social intelligent, and it's getting worse. That's what the advent of social media and streaming services hath wrought	/r/MensRights	14/08/22 05:08 AM
10	An old Polish cult comedy seems to have predicted future. Dunno about life in Poland, but the movie PCU( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK994dAzcKI )documented the existence of all this Woke shit on our university campuses as far back as '94. Social media just allowed it to escaped from the halls of academia and into the general public	/r/MensRights	14/08/22 01:52 AM
1	Found on FB. Huge support of sentiments in comments. Anyone have the original article? Schools of thought which are more balanced..... Men have been talking about these things for eons, before Red Pill Theology arose in the mid-10s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d28usWdvmSg Hell, the most famous MRA on Earth, Paul Elam, admits outright that he's wanted to BE Tom Leykis ever since hearing TL on the radio during his days as a truck driver(Elam never seems to have gotten the memo that Leykis was an entertainer, who never intended for anyone to take anything he said especially seriou…	/r/MensRights	13/08/22 07:26 PM
1	Ayaan Hirsi Ali: It’s time for feminists to say #MenToo Rapes and gang rapes by migrants are occurring all day, every day, all over Europe. Provide the police reports which document what you're saying. Let's say for a moment that men in some ethnic groups commit not just rape but crime in general at higher rates than do white men from the richest areas of London and Berlin. Ali's assertion that their cultural background alone(as opposed to the fact that these are folks who are trapped in poverty, in the ghettoes of hyper-segregated Europe)leads the…	/r/MensRights	13/08/22 05:51 PM
2	any movies or shows that have good male SA/rape storylines? Big Stan's entire storyline focuses on a guy preparing to avoid being raped	/r/MensRights	13/08/22 04:15 AM
11	Found on FB. Huge support of sentiments in comments. Anyone have the original article? Options for both genders are more plentiful than anytime in history, at least in The US and throughout most of The Western World. Problem is that the ladies have consumed so much feminist theory, and we men have poisoned our brain with so much Red Pill content off of YouTube, we're all running around speaking in buzzwords and jargon like "toxic masculinity", "systemic oppression", "Red Pill/Blue Pill/Purple Pill", "Gynocentrism", etc etc. Intimacy is all but impossible, when we can even understa…	/r/MensRights	13/08/22 03:04 AM
1	People keep “calling out” the Manosphere for misogyny but nobody calls out feminism for Misandry The word "misandry" has gone the way of "misogyny"..... We're throwing them around promiscuously, whenever we encounter behavior that we find objectionable in some way. These terms are all but meaningless now. Much more effective to start saying what we object to, and what we'd prefer to see happen instead, in language that's plain and lucid, rather than screeching "Misandry!!!!" constantly Ex. "Title IX Star Chambers are nothing new; they've existed on our university campus since at least '92 h…	/r/MensRights	13/08/22 02:15 AM
-3	Ayaan Hirsi Ali: It’s time for feminists to say #MenToo The polices that left boys behind were not badly thought out. Feminists intentionally laid a false framework that girls were behind in education as a means for proposing and winning policy that favored girls as the expense of boys. That’s what they wanted, and that’s precisely what they achieved. It’s a strategy they’ve often used. It’s very thought out and intentional. What evidence are you basing all of this on? Provide links to the documents which prove that feminist lobbies(who definitely …	/r/MensRights	12/08/22 09:50 PM
0	Ayaan Hirsi Ali: It’s time for feminists to say #MenToo This is from the same broad who's most recent book, "Prey", claims that Europe not clamping down on immigration-especially male immigration from nations which are predominantly Muslim-is increasing the likelihood of women-especially lily white Caucasian women-being ravaged by the swarthy foreigners. If Ayann Hirsi Ali's serious about feminists saying MenToo, it behooves her to at the very least practice what the fuck she is preaching	/r/MensRights	12/08/22 09:41 PM
1	"We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off." - Tyler Durden "We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off." - Tyler Durden This argument is similar to the "My parents fucked me up, and I can't help being as dysfunctional as I am today" argument that we've been mired in, ever since Freud cursed us with it. Paraphrase Albert Ellis: Ultimately, we chose to buy into everything our nutty parents and televisi…	/r/MensRights	12/08/22 08:14 PM
0	Men Have Been Psychologically Abused by Feminist Ideology For Decades ut the government is supposed to resist that and put down undue aggression, immorality and cruelty and run things fairly, justly and in accordance with the Constitution. The UK, as of this writing, doesn't have a US-style Constitution; whatever Mike Buchan's crusade is thus going to have a very different trajectory from our fight here in America. Yeah, the government SHOULD behave fairly and justly. As long as it's made up of flesh and blood human beings, rather than MCU superheroes though, expe…	/r/MensRights	12/08/22 02:02 AM
5	Did any of you guys notice this angle about the raid on Mar a Lago This prolonged melodrama in regards to now ex-President Trump is groundless from a legal standpoint, and also an immense waste of taxpayer dollars. That said, it's bizarre that most of The MRM's leadership and so many of us in the rank and file have been gagging on The Donald's flaccid penis since '16, when very little of anything he did in office benefitted men who are in need in any real way. Yeah, he Kim and Kanye persuaded him to enact commendable prison reforms. As of this writing though, T…	/r/MensRights	12/08/22 12:41 AM
2	Why no gratitude for AH? My pleasure. Spread the word around. If we're to have any chance of improving our fortunes, we need to remember how men's advocacy worked pre-AVFM and HBR, and return to the tactics and strategies that were successful prior. What we've been doing since '15(acting like the sort of schmucks who used to show up on Jerry Springer, and in the process playing into all the negative stereotypes about men)hasn't succeeding in doing untying more than making a handful of content creators on YouTube into 18…	/r/MensRights	11/08/22 07:45 PM
-5	Men Have Been Psychologically Abused by Feminist Ideology For Decades Quote the article: "The subject is typical of feminism’s victim focus, which ignores the life difficulties of male Britons in order to emphasize the (often trivial, as in this case) alleged suffering of female Britons at men’s hands. 75% of suicides in the United Kingdom and Ireland are committed by men, with about 84 men killing themselves every week. Men are 95% of the UK prison population, make up 85% of homeless rough sleepers and 77% of alcoholics. Workplace deaths in the United Kingdom are…	/r/MensRights	11/08/22 06:47 PM
2	Why no gratitude for AH? Whose work should I check out in order to learn about more substantive work being done in this area? Insofar as folks who've been pointing out the flaws and falsehoods within feminist dogma, I highly recommend watching less content on YouTube, and reading more books and articles: Find yourself a copy of Donna LaFramboise's The Princess At The Window, which was actually re-released not all that long ago, and also Asa Baber's Naked At The Gender Gap. For all of Warren Farrell's detours into bizarr…	/r/MensRights	11/08/22 05:45 PM
1	Losing hope Our thoughts generate our emotions, and dictate the degree to which we're distressed over external events, 387. An alternate, and frankly healthier way to conceptualize the straits in which we modern men find ourselves in, especially compared to the way we've been taught to think by the most prominent of today's MRAs: Jonathan Rauch's description of what life was like for gays in the not too distant past https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFVRRP-J9mI&t=1048s 12:34-17:28 is just as true of the hate …	/r/MensRights	11/08/22 06:05 AM
4	how to get men in power to help men more ? A man in power, who wants to help men, specifically, is labeled a red pill or incel We've been operating under the belief that we have to bring gender into the discussion in order to secure some relief to our material burdens. This isn't so. A few examples: -While men do make up the majority of prison inmates, incarceration rates among women have also tripled over the past couple of decades. Most of this is attributable the existence of an irrational and unjust Drug War, which serves to contin…	/r/MensRights	11/08/22 05:14 AM
5	how to get men in power to help men more ? Men throughout history have seemed to show zero male solidarity. While it may be true that women lean more communal than men on average, self-interest ultimately drives human beings-regardless of gender-to invest in one another. How do we get both the powers that be and a substantial portion of the general public to start supporting "men's issues"? It would be remarkably conceited for me to pretend that I have a panacea to a dilemma that's going to require a coalition of exceptionally sharp mi…	/r/MensRights	11/08/22 04:46 AM
2	Losing hope Some examples are: Pol Pot, Chairman Mao, Stalin, a certain H...I could go on... Flagship MRA organizations like are Alt Right Adjacent equivalents to Marxist leaning gay rights organizations like The Gay Liberation Front of The 70s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuTNXnQA-ww&t=1986s 28:00- They're united in their aspirations to form alliances with other utopian revolutionaries*, and to-in the words of the documentary linked above-"eventually take over society by complete social and cultural c…	/r/MensRights	11/08/22 02:03 AM
1	How feminists taught this generation to hate men. Getting up on The GamerGate bandwagon perpetuated all the popular stereotypes about men's advocates being little more than socially maladapt neckbeards who spend most of their lives online and playing video games. This is comparable to that portion of the gay rights movement that encouraged the people they claimed to speak on behalf of to LOOK and ACT like deviants in public, up to and including blowing each other in the streets and sodomizing one another in the middle of Central Park The harm…	/r/MensRights	11/08/22 12:45 AM
11	Olivia Wilde says Jason Sudeikis chose to serve her custody papers in 'most aggressive way possible' after she said she would relocate their kids to LONDON, OP: Cheats on partner, threatens to take children and now wants sympathy. It's no coincidence that guys in Hollywood with successful marriages avoid marrying actresses, much less having kids with them. This is the sort of drama one ends up with	/r/MensRights	11/08/22 12:11 AM
1	'Happy wife, happy life' is wrong. Women are not relationship 'barometers,' study finds 'Happy wife, happy life' Our endless handwringing over that catchphrase is further testament to just how backwards our priorities are. Eons before The Ayatollahs Of Red Pill Theology on YouTube were being triggered into blubbering heaps over those four words, we all watched this myth get eviscerated on Two And Half Men, Amos And Andy, Rebel Without A Cause, Lolita, and the first Hangover Movie, to name just a few examples. Robert Glover and Marc Rudov were writing about this back in the early …	/r/MensRights	10/08/22 10:15 PM
0	How feminists taught this generation to hate men. No idea if Yang has ever said anything about men either way. Back to my original point though: Since '15, we men have been blindly heeding the counsel of MRAs like Paul Elam and his imitators, who preach "Vote with your feet; withdraw from a social order which is hopelessly gynocentric and set up to oppress everyone born with a penis", despite the fact that Elam and his lackeys haven't left The US or petitioned Uncle Sam for a separate homeland of their own, upon which they can build their Red P…	/r/MensRights	10/08/22 05:24 PM
2	The Silencing of male victims – Interview with Deborah Powney Yeah; we've got nowhere to run to anyway	/r/MensRights	10/08/22 04:47 PM
0	How feminists taught this generation to hate men. Say what one wants to about Andrew Yang, nonetheless it's a tragedy for men in America that no one has made an argument on our behalf similar to the one that he made on behalf of East Asian people, when they were getting shit in reaction to COVID https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/01/andrew-yang-coronavirus-discrimination/We men didn't start this moral panic we've been in the middle of since MeToo, and that moral panic was founded on earlier prejudices fine. There's a lot we can do …	/r/MensRights	09/08/22 09:46 PM
2	How feminists taught this generation to hate men. It's tough to blame feminists too much at this point. Since '15, The MRM's leadership and those of us who fell in line behind them without a whimper have pissed away the bulk of our energies on infantile pet projects like GamerGate, ComicsGate, and bitching about the latest shout out to Intersectionality in some MCU, DCU, or Star Wars flick from behind our keyboards, while having very little enthusiasms for going out into our neighborhoods and communities to help that portion of the male populat…	/r/MensRights	09/08/22 09:32 PM
2	The Silencing of male victims – Interview with Deborah Powney This movement needs more wellspoken leaders. Acting angry wont get us anywhere. Our opponents are very well skilled when it comes to rhetoric we need to step up our game if we want to change anything. Yeah; going forward, it's going to be wise for us to start thinking and behaving more like political strategists, and less like shock jocks on YouTube, who's first and only priority is showing their asses in public for the express purpose of drawing attention to themselves. That shit was cute was…	/r/MensRights	09/08/22 08:49 PM
11	'Why would a woman lie?' "Everybody lies" We all learned this from nearly a decade of House MD	/r/MensRights	09/08/22 07:49 PM
2	Losing hope Societal collapse would benefit no-one. The founders of flagship MRA organizations like AVFM and HBR are eager to see this very thing happen, on account of their delusions that his will pave the way for them to rebuild our entire civilization from the ground up in their own image. Never mind the fact that these same folks all admit to having been lackluster-complete fuck ups in their personal and professional lives, prior to becoming mid-level E-celebs during the mid-10s. They're alt-right adj…	/r/MensRights	08/08/22 09:38 PM
1	Losing hope Yep. And there's cause to question now whether it's politically astute for us to even continue using a poisoned term "men's rights", if we're serious about achieving concrete, tangible improvement to our fortunes. Until we start connecting the ills which disproportionately affect men to the concerns which are foremost in the minds of most Americans(higher paying jobs/acquiring the skills needed to snag such jobs, access to solid housing, safe neighborhoods, less tax money getting yanked out of e…	/r/MensRights	08/08/22 09:26 PM
2	Losing hope Canada is the worst. That's The Maker Of Life's punishment on The Great White North, for sending Elisha Cuthbert to Hollywood, then allowing her remain mostly clothed during The Girl Next Door	/r/MensRights	08/08/22 09:18 PM
0	Losing hope Anyone who's been affiliated with The MRM and made the mistake of buying into it's rhetoric hook, line, and stinker(rather than subjecting it to the same skepticism we apply to all that we hear out of every other special interest group on this planet)has been losing hope for sometime now. The movement has long since taken on many of Environmentalism's more unsavory traits, namely elitism, doomsaying, and a staunch resistance to empiricism* Just as Environmentalism has been teaching entirely too …	/r/MensRights	08/08/22 09:16 PM
5	Answering the "but men built that system" fallacy argument when talking about inequalities men face in society Men and women built the system together, and we'll continue to do so. The bitter irony of MRAs adopting the feminist line "Men built society" for themselves is that they've actually played into the lies that feminist have been assiduously spreading around for nearly a century now	/r/MensRights	08/08/22 03:59 PM
0	Answering the "but men built that system" fallacy argument when talking about inequalities men face in society There are more eligible women voters than men. And let's all note that The MRM's leadership has violently opposed activities like voter registration and forging ties with both the Republican and Democratic parties, so that we can begin to exert political pressure on Uncle Sam. The rationale one hears out of folk like Paul Elam(the most famous MRA on Earth)is similar to the sort puerile thinking which characterized the leaders of The Gay Liberation front back in The 70s https://monthlyreview.or…	/r/MensRights	08/08/22 03:57 PM
4	Answering the "but men built that system" fallacy argument when talking about inequalities men face in society Answering the "but men built that system" fallacy argument when talking about inequalities men face in society Fire back to those who trot this canard out with words to the effect of: "White people built a system here in The US which is at least 50% responsible for the psychic trauma that's ravaged Black America and American Indians since the days of slavery and the colonial period. Here in '22 though, we've gotten bogged down in handwringing over who started it, while devoting very little ene…	/r/MensRights	08/08/22 03:36 PM
1	Imagine if it said boys... Ardent practitioners of cancel culture would be triggered into blubbering heaps. if they saw a T-shirt that read "Boys rule the world". The more salient question at play here is our devotion(or absence thereof)to free speech and free expression. If we're serious about not just rights for ourselves, but upholding The Constitution(the 1st Amendment), we've gotta move shrewdly on subjects such as these When our courts have already ruled that even Neo-Nazis and Klansmen are free to wear shirts beari…	/r/MensRights	08/08/22 01:53 AM
2	Do you think feminism is hurting women in the long run? Any belief system that one buys into hook, line, and stinker without skepticism is harmful to those who buy into it in such a fashion. The chick who says "If by feminism you mean equal rights for both genders....Then yeah, I'm down with that", yet who doesn't find vague, slippery buzzwords like "The Patriarchy", "male gaze", and "White CIS male hegemony" to especially rational or helpful is probably going to be great The guy who says "If by men's rights you mean equality before the law and unh…	/r/MensRights	06/08/22 05:00 PM
0	The Silencing of male victims – Interview with Deborah Powney This movement needs more wellspoken leaders I'll take this one step further..... Now that The MRM has failed to relieve our day to day burdens in any concrete, tangible sense(talking here things like securing us paths to upward mobility via greater access to vocational training, making legislative headway on shared parenting, ending a drug war which disproportionately locks up men, etc etc)there's cause for those of us who are "Post-MRM" to take a collective step back, and re-examine many of t…	/r/MensRights	06/08/22 03:51 PM
1	The Silencing of male victims – Interview with Deborah Powney Any suggestions on how to take action without loosing face? There will always be people who hurl disapproval our way, when we challenge widely-held prejudices and biases. We can blunt the Intersectionalist-sympathizing MSM's ability to mischaracterize our efforts in the press by being a lot more conscientious of how we look and what we say in front of the camera, ala. earlier and successful civil rights heroes, like Thurgood Marshall and the remarkable James Cook https://www.npr.org/templates/…	/r/MensRights	06/08/22 01:42 PM
1	Shutting men down just increases the anger NOW HE STARTS TO GET ANGRY. Because there's no other choice. Paraphrase Albert Ellis: We've all the got the option to be annoyed, regretful, and disappointed vs enraged, hostile, and homicidal. The former is perfectly human and healthy, the latter causes us pain, while not doing much to influence the behavior of those whom we want to change in some way	/r/MensRights	06/08/22 03:51 AM
13	The Silencing of male victims – Interview with Deborah Powney Our being silenced is just as, if not more, attributable to the fact that we've prioritized griping about this shit on social media over taking sociopolitical action out on the ground, where it really counts. Until we start going door to door in neighborhoods across America, and hammering home to John and Jane Q public that continuing to use The Duluth Model isn't just bad for men, but bad for our nation, we won't be seeing much improvement to our material circumstances	/r/MensRights	06/08/22 03:31 AM
-2	I am sure some of you have already heard of Karen Straughan, she is an anti-feminist author and blogger well worth the listen on tube, etc she really is an eloquent speaker on Men's Rights and has very intelligent reasons as to why men are being treated the way we are. I wasn't aware that criticizing a card carrying MRA just as ferociously as we criticize feminists when calling out their bizarre logic and behavioral inconsistencies is now being mistaken for "appointing oneself the arbiter of all that's good"	/r/MensRights	06/08/22 03:12 AM
1	What is your response to "But men had done that to themselves!" Does it infuriates you that whenever you have given a statistic to the opposition party to prove that men suffer more discrimination then women, they immediately resorts to "But men had done that to themselves!" bullcrap This avoidable by not getting into the "who has it worse" handwringing that we've been mired in since about '15. I've been able to persuade more than a couple of self-described feminists to come around to "MRA points of view" on hot button issues, like reforming rape shield la…	/r/MensRights	05/08/22 11:05 PM
-1	The Great Patriarchy and its rule of thumb AVFM is a for profit website that often features men's rights related publications. They're not a civil rights group and are actually kind of controversial, including among MRAs (as almost like the radfem equivalent of a radicalist MRA). They've been controversial among MRAs, in the same way Micheal Moore was controversial within The Left during his 18 minutes of fame back in The 2000s. Folks were discussing his penchant for bizarre logic, half-baked readings of history, and regularly emulatin…	/r/MensRights	05/08/22 10:40 PM
-6	Are male only spaces seen as sexist ? What the logic behind only having mixed and female only places ? We're just much better off when we say "men's locker room" and "women's sauna", and other similarly specific terms, rather than resorting to empty terms "male/female spaces", which mean nothing. A dining room at Waffle House with only three patrons, all of whom happen to be men at the moment, could be considered a "male space", just as aisle at Safeway with a few women standing in it could be considered a "female space" Trotting out these terms are just cunning ways of avoiding honest discussi…	/r/MensRights	05/08/22 09:30 PM
11	Are male only spaces seen as sexist ? What the logic behind only having mixed and female only places ? All women(even-and perhaps especially-female MRAs) are, and always have been, prejudiced towards us in some capacity. Just as we men probably all have some prejudices and biases towards women. We moderns are the first people in history to fall for the lie that ridding our species of such things is a prerequisite for progress Regrettably, The MRM's refusal to engage in self-criticism of any sort has prevented anyone in the movement putting together a gender swapped version of this sketch http…	/r/MensRights	05/08/22 09:22 PM
4	Are male only spaces seen as sexist ? What the logic behind only having mixed and female only places ? There's always the less glamorous yet more probable explanation for our fixation on both gender and race..... Life in rich nations is remarkably safe, and by extension often monotonous and free of the sort of existential drama one finds in war torn Syria or crime-ridden El Salvador. Therefore, we're manufacturing grievances and seeing problems that don't exist, in an effort to feel real heroic	/r/MensRights	05/08/22 09:15 PM
-9	Are male only spaces seen as sexist ? What the logic behind only having mixed and female only places ? Male spaces, female spaces, mixed spaces, safe spaces.... Our contemporary hard-on for buzzwords and vagueness, and violent aversion to specifics and saying what we mean just increases with every passing day. One can only infer that this is our sad attempt to avoid having tough discussions, such as whether or not we're okay with men being in the women's locker room, after women have been allowed in the men's locker room throughout the 20th Century up till today All this fracas over safe spaces i…	/r/MensRights	05/08/22 09:10 PM
-15	I am sure some of you have already heard of Karen Straughan, she is an anti-feminist author and blogger well worth the listen on tube, etc she really is an eloquent speaker on Men's Rights and has very intelligent reasons as to why men are being treated the way we are. Straughan, like most prominent MRAs from the mid-10s up till today, is afflicted with a mindset similar to that which has characterized The Green Movement since it arrived on the scene in the late 60s. These folks excel at regurgitating points made by many prior writers and thinkers on the subject they've latched onto(Early environmentalists weren't saying anything original; John Muir and other conservationists had pondered this same topic since the latter half of The 1800s. Today's MRAs similar…	/r/MensRights	05/08/22 04:21 PM
1	First-of-its-kind Miami-Dade shelter helping male victims of domestic violence She herself says as much, albeit in an indirect way, in the above excerpt. Men aren't interested in investing in men's shelters, when they learn that only a handful of guys are eager to build and uses such establishments; for the most part, men just want to put the personal drama they find themselves in the midst of behind, then move on with life. The ROI on men's shelters is thus anemic. Compared to the number of women who desire more domestic violence shelters, where they can sit around in a c…	/r/MensRights	05/08/22 03:00 PM
77	The greatest double standard I ever saw The fact that anyone would call Cardi B a hero is indicative of just how meaningless that word has become	/r/MensRights	05/08/22 07:20 AM
3	First-of-its-kind Miami-Dade shelter helping male victims of domestic violence Let's see how well this does. Erin Pizzey opened the first such shelter in the world, and by her own admittance, the fact that men for the most part didn't want to use such an establishment felled the project, more so than feminist resistance to a men's shelter did If it turns out that guys just aren't interested in DV shelters in the way women are, there's cause to ask: Might it be more intelligent to provided different options for men in such situations?	/r/MensRights	05/08/22 07:17 AM
2	The Great Patriarchy and its rule of thumb I'm beginning to wonder if it's not astute for us to not only get more active in local politics, but to also employ a strategy that many Democrats are now using https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2022/07/democrats-spend-millions-on-republican-primaries/ Revamp for our purposes: Prop up Far Left Zanies who believe in crap like the rule of thumb and the wage gap, so that they can then be defeated during primaries, when opponents nail them on the fact that they're hair-brained ideas aren't remotely p…	/r/MensRights	04/08/22 09:19 PM
2	Feminism The label you wear is of less importance than how one behaves. if you and other feminists that you're in contact with support things like making shared parenting legislation the law of the land, ending a drug war which disproportionately affects men, abolishing Title iX star chambers which not only convict the innocent frequently enough but which also fail to protect the public from violent criminals, and increasing access to vocational training, we need you to mobilize on the ground and form pa…	/r/MensRights	04/08/22 09:11 PM
3	MRA's please be careful. i keep forgetting to add emojis to any post of mine that's semi-facetious . We're in agreement... Since '15, the most prominent MRAs have been going out of their way to perpetuate all the negative stereotypes about the movement, and scoffing at those of us in the rank and file who encourage men to be conscientious of how we look and what we say in public, with words to the effect of "You're telling men to act like Norm-ies, and trying to win gains by telling MRAs to signal that they're just like…	/r/MensRights	04/08/22 04:01 PM
2	MRA's please be careful. i've been far tougher on the leadership of The MRM than I have been on feminists(aka. The people who've never been on our side anyway), in many respects. If someone were to screenshare what I've written both here and in the comments section of quite a few MRA channels over at YouTube, the folks over at AVFM, HBR, and NCFM's national headquarters(no disrespect to the local chapters of this organization. They're on the ground in communities throughout the nation, doing gritty unglamorous work with…	/r/MensRights	04/08/22 03:36 PM
0	MRA's please be careful. MRA's please be careful. Fuck worrying about how we look and what we say inf front the cameras; Woke Warriors like Lindy West and Micheal Eric Dyson and Ayatollahs Of Red Pill Theology like Paul Elam and Alyson Tieman have already enlightened as to the fact that such things are little more than "respectability politics". Authenticity arises from walking around with a rag wrapped around your heads and your jeans down to our ankles, stuffing our faces with Twinkies until you're twice the size of…	/r/MensRights	04/08/22 03:31 PM
3	I absolutely get disgusted when I think about how my son has to grow up and accept being born into a world of misandry. When one digs into the numbers and demographics on which men are the most at risk for not only suicide, but mental illness more broadly, substance abuse, premature death from easily treatable disease, homelessness, fathering kids out of wedlock, and contact with the criminal justice system, he notices a pattern: These pathologies are the me most pronounced among men who under and unemployed, and men who are among the working poor, and who lack the skills necessary to attain upward mobility Jus…	/r/MensRights	04/08/22 01:22 PM
3	I absolutely get disgusted when I think about how my son has to grow up and accept being born into a world of misandry. Before any of us try to make a difference, it's going to behoove the more dissident folks in The MRM's rank and file to start questioning many of the movement's sacred cows, and openly calling for us to rethink the mostly-failed strategy and approach we've been relying on thus far. in a fashion similar to what dissenters within Environmentalism like Micheal Shellenberger ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq60W2pRk84&t=8s ), Stewart Brand, Patrick Moore, Adam Weyerbich, Patrick Moore, Mark Lynas,…	/r/MensRights	04/08/22 01:01 PM
2	I absolutely get disgusted when I think about how my son has to grow up and accept being born into a world of misandry. We're all feeling the heat these days. I encourage to you to straighten your son, by share the following with him: -We've been through a moral panic similar to the one we're in the grips of now, in the not too distant past https://archive.org/details/Radioutlaw-PlayboyColumnistAsaBaberMantalkInterviewPart1706-2 https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1992-12-18-1992353029-story.html Yet, the world didn't come to an end*.... Hell, up until fairly rec…	/r/MensRights	04/08/22 12:52 PM
0	There is a hypocrisy in straight women taking over gay bars Why do we still have gay bars in modern day America? The focus of the gay rights movement was to abolish laws and policies which forced homosexuals to congregate in joints that were covertly designated "gay", was it not? As to straight women "taking over" gay bars.... I presume that you mean that these broads have started patronizing establishments were the clientele was previously gay alone. So long as they're paying for meals and drinks like everyone else, what do you want to do about this? …	/r/MensRights	03/08/22 07:40 PM
1	MEETING THE ENEMY A feminist comes to terms with the Men's Rights movement - Cassie Jaye TEDxMarin As to what on earth we do about this, I've not a clue. Hardline feminism and other offshoots of critical social justice have successfully implemented a political strategy which frames disagreement as fundamentally unacceptable. I do wonder if we should be attacking that, rather than the policies they use it to implement. I won't be so conceited as to pretend that I have a panacea for all of this either. A few thoughts though: -The MRM has an unchecked addiction to jargon and buzzwords, and a v…	/r/MensRights	03/08/22 02:19 PM
1	MEETING THE ENEMY A feminist comes to terms with the Men's Rights movement - Cassie Jaye TEDxMarin What astounds me is that there are people sat in the audience at the end pointedly not applauding her, still determined to find fault and have a problem with it. I'm not quite sure what sort of approach we can take to people like that. You've got to be pretty hardcore to let that whole speech bounce off your brain. We WON'T reach the Susan Danuta Walters, Big Reds, and Lindy Wests of the world. Ultimately though, nut jobs like those three form maybe 15% of the population. The real challenge is…	/r/MensRights	02/08/22 08:29 PM
1	MEETING THE ENEMY A feminist comes to terms with the Men's Rights movement - Cassie Jaye TEDxMarin She interviewed how before, she used to complain about her boyfriend helping out around the house, after him working 12 hour days. After, she realized what a cushy life she had compared to him and she did more of the domestic duties with much less complaining. Entirely too many of us moderns have been stuck in grievance mode since about '15. This isn't a malady that's exclusive to feminists anymore	/r/MensRights	02/08/22 08:20 PM
1	MEETING THE ENEMY A feminist comes to terms with the Men's Rights movement - Cassie Jaye TEDxMarin Going forward, it's going to be our advantage to get out from behind our keyboards, and emulate Daryl Davis's tactics, by engaging feminists and those who are on the fence more generally out in reality. We'll continue to remain a niche hobby among a handful of folks on social media, until we start converting a substantial portion of our former adversaries, and persuading a large cross-section of everyday American to support our goals, even if their motivations to do so are very different from ou…	/r/MensRights	02/08/22 08:18 PM
1	MEETING THE ENEMY A feminist comes to terms with the Men's Rights movement - Cassie Jaye TEDxMarin God bless Cassie Jaye. She meant well, just as Davis Guggenheim did he put out an "An Inconvenient Truth". Today though, The MRM finds itself in straits similar to the ones that environmentalists find themselves in '06 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvecMBuFWT4&t=73s Neither AIT nor The Red Pill proved to be a game changer; indeed, both movies were largely a hit with activists themselves and those who are adjacent to said activists.... College freshmen at Ivy League universities and op-ed write…	/r/MensRights	02/08/22 08:13 PM
2	Matt Walsh cries and shames men for not "protecting women" Lot of cherrypicking of history going on here, and you are arguing not to educate or prove a point, but for its own sake I didn't conceptualize what we were doing as arguing, but rather conversing and sharing ideas. Thus i've never been out to prove a point. You've gotta do better than "You're just cherry picking history!!! I can't provide any evidence to back up my assertion that you're cherry picking.... It's true, because I say it is!!!" That is how you have a constructive conversation, b…	/r/MensRights	02/08/22 04:32 PM
5	Sexism in Women All studies such as these are predicated on the researcher's definition of "sexism", a word that's long since gone the way of "racism"..... It's become so tossed around and elastic, the term is nearly meaningless. These intellectual exercises are unnecessary and unhelpful, in any event: Both genders have prejudices and biases toward one another, just as all human beings have racial prejudices. Seeing as that no technology exists to re-engineer our entire species from the ground-up, and free us o…	/r/MensRights	02/08/22 03:28 PM
1	Bloodstained Men: Afternoon protest of day 2 of the New England Circumcision Crisis Protests Lots of luck with this one. Like reparations for slavery, a vanishingly small number of hobbyists continue harping on the subject of whether or not our foreskins stay attached to our dicks, despite the fact that this continues to be defeated. Raises questions as to why we're still devoting energy to this, given all the other difficulties men face here in '22	/r/MensRights	02/08/22 03:20 PM
1	Who needs Title IX now? - The Boston Globe Abolishing Title IX would be a welcome development, nut just for men but for America. It also wouldn't do a whole hell of a lot to uplift that portion the male population that's most in need in any material way. An estimate 77% of people in The US(male AND female alike)have little to no secondary education, and a large percentage of them have no desire to go to a four year university. What would really be wise to invest in: Increased access to vocational training for everyone, especially men. St…	/r/MensRights	02/08/22 11:36 AM
1	anti feminism and how it will be portrayed Universal human rights are needed everywhere. The barbarically overlooked Asa Baber ( https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ )warned us of the perils of which you speak-men adopting their own brand of identity politics-back in '94, and the remarkable James Cook ( https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101833696 )achieved his less than complete yet commendable victories by discussing civil and human rights, without putting gender front and center For all this current itera…	/r/MensRights	02/08/22 11:20 AM
1	anti feminism and how it will be portrayed If and when we do eventually get to the point anti feminism becomes big/a news story, the backlash will be strong. Backlash against ant-feminism(namely, questioning how productive this is)really ought to be taking place within The MRM itself. From the outset, the movement's rockstars(Paul Elam, Karen Straughan, Alyson Tieman, Hannah Wallen, Brian Martinez..... Harry Crouch over at NCFM's headquarters has been vague on his stance here)have prioritized being anti-feminist over being pro-male. He…	/r/MensRights	02/08/22 11:10 AM
2	If you miss on social development during teenage years, you're basically screwed I was reflecting about the way the odds are stacked against men who have difficulty for whatever reason into getting a social life and understanding social cues while in their teenage years. I myself (18) spent from 13-17 completely focused on school work and my future, and thus I sometimes have a hard time approaching women or behaving "normal" according to societal standards, but on a OK level. Some of my friends in the other hand, were punished by conditions out of their control and didn't fo…	/r/MensRights	02/08/22 06:50 AM
14	The latest "women hit hardest/worst affected" claim: "Action needed as inflation hits women hardest". Opinion piece in the paper of record in Ireland, the Irish Times "I'm slowly becoming numb to everything. I'm becoming like Patrick Bateman: "I simply, am not, there". Having a mild dose of that in one's make-up is healthy. There's never going to be a day where we never again hear things on TV or read things in the news that we find objectionable. Since about '15, ideologues of all stripes have been teaching us that having a meltdown whenever, we encounter speech that we either disagree with, or which really is derogatory. This has achieved nothing but a dr…	/r/MensRights	02/08/22 05:18 AM
7	The latest "women hit hardest/worst affected" claim: "Action needed as inflation hits women hardest". Opinion piece in the paper of record in Ireland, the Irish Times The world would be a saner place if we didn't speak of human suffering in gendered terms. We here in The MRM haven't been doing ourselves any favors, by speaking and acting as if "men's issues" can be separated from the difficulties which plague America. Or Britain, Australia, Thailand, or Pakistan, for that matter. The tenor of much of our rhetoric often impose that we're yearning for a world in which The Times runs articles with headlines like "Action needed as inflation hits men hardest" We…	/r/MensRights	02/08/22 05:11 AM
2	Matt Walsh cries and shames men for not "protecting women" I am speaking of modern polite society from the 18th century onwards featuring increasingly mixed ethnic and national groups to maintain peace and orderly existence. Even if we start from The 18th century forward, this theory of the old contract doesn't hold up. The British and The Americans weren't averse to raping each other's women during The War Of Independence. And on the latter side of that conflict, women who were active guerrilla fighters in parts of the nation like The Carolinas didn't …	/r/MensRights	02/08/22 05:00 AM
-1	is it just me or does it seem like there's no point in dating as an average man in this day and age? go to work and when I get off work I play games and do whatever it is I want to do and I'm content on doing that and enjoying myself. But it seems like that really makes it hard to meet women? The second I talk about that stuff and what I like to do it's like it instantly changes the conversation and it's all about how I have no ambition in life how they need someone more driven how they want a man who blah blah blah. So you're essentially the male equivalent of The Basic Bitch https://www.you…	/r/MensRights	02/08/22 03:57 AM
3	Matt Walsh cries and shames men for not "protecting women" Toxic masculinity is a drive for gynocentrism which leads to discrimination Non-sentences like this are endemic within The MRM, and further proof that we could all benefit from visiting The Plain Language Action And Information Network's website regularly ( https://www.plainlanguage.gov/resources/checklists/checklist/ ), and learning to communicate in lucid, jargon free language once again. Ex. "Many men believe that they're being heroic by protecting women, no matter what; behavior such as th…	/r/MensRights	02/08/22 03:43 AM
0	Matt Walsh cries and shames men for not "protecting women" Even better question: Why are we hurling around a buzzword like "gynocentrism" with a frequency that's comparable to the feminist affinity for invoking "toxic masculinity", and pretending that this is anything other than yet one more instance of us moderns eschewing plain language, in favor of hiding behind jargon? Yeah, we all FEEL superior to our fellow human beings when we speak in sentences which are overwrought with esoterica. Doesn't change the fact that we're not saying what we mean and m…	/r/MensRights	01/08/22 09:46 PM
3	Matt Walsh cries and shames men for not "protecting women" The old social contract decreed that men protect women, and women, in return for this protection, offer respect and deference to men for the sacrifice The old contract that's so venerated among Generically Red Pill folks moist the fact that men in such cultures were obligated to only protect THEIR women, who in turn only treated their men with respect and deference. Women in outside tribes were deemed acceptable targets for gang rape and hacking off of breasts, while women in the eras we're di…	/r/MensRights	01/08/22 09:36 PM
-1	Matt Walsh cries and shames men for not "protecting women" Spouting jargon like "gynocentrism", much in the way that The Woke Left jabbers on endlessly about "The White CIS Male Hegemony" has undercut our capacity to communicate with one another clearly. Talking about "operating from gynocentrism" s about as incoherent and vague as plotting to overgrown "The Patriarchy" Aside from the fact that buzzwords like those are designed by undefinable, sentences like the ones we've just mentioned do nothing to lay the foundation for concrete action	/r/MensRights	01/08/22 09:30 PM
1	Matt Walsh cries and shames men for not "protecting women" By Walsh's logic, Deckard in Blade Runner should've helped Daryl Hannah escape, rather than shooting her. Apparently, being born with a vagina gives someone a life time pass on mayhem and murder, even when their fellow male replicants are being gunned down for those same crimes	/r/MensRights	01/08/22 09:17 PM
7	Matt Walsh cries and shames men for not "protecting women" Why the hell is anyone getting bent out of shape over a guy in the women's locker room? Women reporters have been going into the men's locker room for decades now. Sounds like equality hath been achieved one front. This is cause for celebration	/r/MensRights	01/08/22 09:14 PM
1	Dangers of complimenting women? So today a female friend got upset with me and said I had made inappropriate comments to her that were weird and made her uncomfortable It's impractical for heterosexual men to be friends with straight women, at least not in the way we are with folks of our own gender	/r/MensRights	01/08/22 08:47 PM
6	Ironic how this strong,independent woman needs a man to fix her sink In a thread that he's since deleted, Peter Wright(one of The Grand Ayatollah Of Red Pill Theology, Paul Elam's primary lieutenants. They even co-authored a book together)was called out for spouting off the term "gynocentrism", much in the same way feminists toss around vague, slippery terms like "The Patriarchy", to avoid saying much of anything. He and most prominent MRAs are about as receptive to this sort of heterodoxy as feminists are to having someone question delusions like The White CIS M…	/r/MensRights	01/08/22 08:44 PM
5	If a woman you're with ever expects you to physically fight a man who offended her sensibilities, run. We needn't even go this far. Most of us instinctively go to anger when someone whom we value is attacked verbally or physically, regardless of how they'd prefer we react to such an incident . Not being prepared to navigate such situations is a recipe for being caught off guard	/r/MensRights	01/08/22 05:05 PM
3	Why don't male victims of rape come forward to tell their stories? Listen what people say when you bring that the victims of crimes are men: "But men do them", so whats the point? As men, we've never been sympathized with as readily as young, attractive women are sympathized with, and that's not likely to change in the foreseeable future. The paradox of men's advocacy has always been that our prospects for success increase, when we forego using the word "men's rights" and "men's problems", in favor of discussing subjects like crime reduction and prison reform…	/r/MensRights	01/08/22 03:11 PM
1	Generalizing Feminists Whenever I'm in an argument with a feminist I tend to generalize them. I also tend to call them out when they generalize MRAs and men. This is blatant hypocrisy, even when I point out feminists don't call out members of the movement who say misandrist things or perpetuate systemic misandry like the Duluth Model and the CDC not acknowledging envelopment as rape, this could easily also apply to MRAs and men. How do I handle this dilemma? Our entire culture can benefit from taking a collective st…	/r/MensRights	01/08/22 11:23 AM
2	We seem to be at war with /rTwoXChromosomes. The MRM has had a millenarian bent from the very get go, much like Environmentalism. This has just become more pronounced as time goes on	/r/MensRights	01/08/22 01:42 AM
2	We seem to be at war with /rTwoXChromosomes. The internet and social media are lousy places to gain converts to one's cause. We're going to have to start getting out from behind our keyboards, interacting with our fellow citizens(70% of whom aren't activists with deep investments in any given belief, and who are thus receptive to suasion), and displaying more interest in the problems which are foremost in the minds of most Americans* than we've done thus far. The most prominent MRA organizations's approach, when dealing with non-MRA consti…	/r/MensRights	01/08/22 01:04 AM
1	Meanwhile, in Australia: Women are opposing coercive control laws Oh, you're just talking out of your ass. If you're familiar with any self-identified MRA organization in The US, aside from the local chapters of NCFM, who are putting boots on the ground in our neighborhoods and communities, don't hesitate to name names. AVFM and HBR exist solely online, and NCFM's national headquarters is a shadow of it's former self. CAFE has prioritized real-world action more than any organization here in The States has, and they also don't identify as men's rights outfit	/r/MensRights	01/08/22 12:26 AM
1	Meanwhile, in Australia: Women are opposing coercive control laws Great question. The most famous MRAs today are mid-level E-celebrities on YouTube, who are largely disinterested in on-the-ground sociopolitical engagement. Pays to question why we've referred to these folks as activists for so long, rather than calling them exactly what they are.... Performance artists	/r/MensRights	01/08/22 12:12 AM
5	Why can't men be liked for who they are? What I realize with an analysis of my whole life. I belch and fart in over 80 languages	/r/MensRights	01/08/22 12:08 AM
1	Historical & Contemporary Articles about Male chivalry \| Gynocentrism and its Cultural Origins Since you mention history, it's wise for us to look into the notion of chivalry and it's origins and history https://www.history.com/news/how-chivalry-died-again-and-again "In these feudal systems, knights worked in paid service to their lords, and enjoyed social superiority to the serfs or peasants. In the 1984 book, Chivalry, the late historian Maurice Hugh Keen argued that chivalric codes had served as a kind of international law of war that protected these knights as an aristocratic class. K…	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 11:49 PM
5	Why can't men be liked for who they are? What I realize with an analysis of my whole life. No one gets liked solely for who they are. We're a social species, and everyone is valued based upon what benefit they bring to those around them	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 09:58 PM
1	We are going to have an epidemic of Depressed women in the next decade or so Get yourself a copy of David Burns's Feeling Good	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 08:11 PM
3	Was told that men suffer less than women financially after divorce. Thoughts? Getting into these debates over who's life is shittier has been a sport that everyone in America has been engaged in since the mid-10s, when identity politics became the rage among every demographic, us men included. This hasn't succeeded in enhancing our collective freedom and prosperity, and it's clearly not going to deliver us from insanity anytime soon In regards to divorce in particular: The documentary Divorce Corp(much ballyhooed among MRAs)depicted at least 2-3 women who also apparentl…	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 06:07 PM
1	Is THIS the peak of feminist "feelz", while IGNORING male suffering? Have women like this one NO sense of responsibility anymore??! Since '15, we've been on a quest to get not only feminists, but our entire species to sympathize with men, just as readily as we do women, in particular young attractive women who turn on the waterworks. As of '22, this has been about as gainful as trying to get human beings to sympathize as readily with sharks and wolves as we do koala bears, dolphins, and all other creatures which APPEAR cute and cuddly This raises serious questions as the wisdom of continuing this project,vs getting more in…	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 05:29 PM
2	Why no gratitude for AH? Erin Pizzey did impressive work during The 70s, which helped lots people in need, and Helen Smith's ultimate impact remains to be seen. Karen Straughan's largely been a mouthpiece for all the standard MRA talking points, who's capacity for lucid thinking evaporates, whenever she's off script https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61PAVYvYsHg&t=186s The fact that we now mistake folks who's contributions are confined to screeching "Feminism bad!!!" is testament to the fact that we've given primacy to the…	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 05:18 PM
3	[MRM Classic] Karen Straughan's "Feminism and the Disposable Male" (published in 2011) 0:58 It's more complicated than that, K https://conflictmanagermagazine.com/alpha-revisited-marc-macyoung/ Quote: "In human terms, the beta is who I call Thongor the Learning Impaired. For the group’s survival he doesn’t do the ‘smart thing’ like everyone else — instead of running from danger, he runs towards it. Thing is if everyone did the smart thing we’d have died out as a species. Face it, men are bigger, stronger and faster than women. Women are bigger, stronger and faster than children. S…	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 05:02 PM
2	We are going to have an epidemic of Depressed women in the next decade or so The number of men getting penis implants has never and still doesn't come anywhere close to the number of women who are getting breast enlargements and butt lifts. Perhaps this will change, when and if penile implants become safer and more effective than they are today	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 04:35 PM
2	We are going to have an epidemic of Depressed women in the next decade or so I didn't imply that men shouldn't look after their bodies and be well-grommet. We can have an entirely separate conversation on the poisonous effects of folks like Paul Elam, Alyson Tieman, Brian Martinez, and Carl Benjamin encouraging men to work only part time, dress in nothing but cartoon graphic T shirts, spend most of their spare time playing video games and kvetching about the unfairness of life on social media, and stuffing their faces with Twinkies until they're morbidly obese These fo…	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 04:33 PM
-1	USA, champion of extreme gynocentrism (updated) \| Gynocentrism and its Cultural Origins Big tech censorship is definitely a problem, and one that's hardly unique to MRA sites and channels: We're at a point where even channels as innocuous as Maddie and Elijah's kissing tutorials have been targeted for shadow-banning. If MRAs are going to assert that they're not simply one more case of folks who've been deemed "too edgy" by prudish executives in Silicon Valley, but that they're unblemished warriors for truth, who are being singularly targeted for silencing by The Feminist-Loving New…	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 03:08 PM
6	We are going to have an epidemic of Depressed women in the next decade or so Women themselves are intuitively aware of just how valuable a youthful appearance is. Take a look at the numbers of women undergoing cosmetic surgery vs men, and the sort of procedures both genders gravitate towards. Then note the increase in very young women who've been undergoing cosmetic surgery since the late 90s, as more and more of that stuff has become both more economical and less dangerous. Today, removing facial lines via laser and lip fillers can all be done in the office, and it's no…	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 01:34 PM
1	USA, champion of extreme gynocentrism (updated) \| Gynocentrism and its Cultural Origins BTW it's Paglia. I'm blaming that on spellcheck, and taking full responsibility for being too lazy to turn that spellcheck off. I'm aware that "gynocentrism" and "gynocentric" have been around for a minute, much in the same way "patriarchy", "fascist", "hegemony", "institutional racism", and"White Supremacy" didn't emerge out of thin air in the mid-10s We're moderns are bouncing these terms around more often than Ike bounced around Tina during their time together, rather than saying what we me…	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 01:20 PM
1	what do you do when your own mother is a feminazi? Read up on how gays who hail from Christian fundamentalist families navigate their relations, upon coming out of the closet, and adapt for your own purpose. Most men in America have people in their families who consider themselves feminists; we're going to have to find a way to live together, long term. Yeah, I've heard the societal dropouts over at AVFM and HBR's so-called strategy of "Vote with your feet!!!" Most men aren't E-celebrities who can rely on internet begging to fund our holing up i…	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 11:23 AM
49	We are going to have an epidemic of Depressed women in the next decade or so When men get older they realize just how much they are expected to bring to the table and if she isn't young and reasonably attractive without any kids, it's just not worth it. On a more fundamental level than that: We're biologically hardwired to desire women who display signs of fertility, freshness, and innocence. Women simply don't have those qualities for all that long in their lives. No amount of anyone wishing and praying that things were different is going to alter the way human beings…	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 11:06 AM
16	We are going to have an epidemic of Depressed women in the next decade or so Too much social media will do that to us	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 11:02 AM
-1	We are going to have an epidemic of Depressed women in the next decade or so We are going to have an epidemic of Depressed women in the next decade or so They(and those of men who are also depressed for that matter)are well advised to grab a copy of David Burns's Feeling Good, and find themselves a skillful CBT shrink. One of the tragedies of The MRM is that when the current leadership grips about the state of mental health care in The US, their thinking is pretty much limited to The APA's Guidelines On Men And Boys, with very little talk of what we're to do, after abo…	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 11:01 AM
-2	USA, champion of extreme gynocentrism (updated) \| Gynocentrism and its Cultural Origins Whenever the rockstars of The MRM and their imitators start spouting off about "gynocentrism", one can't help but note the similarities between this notion and Camile Puglia(who's got her own share of flaws, to be sure)'s evisceration of the feminist delusion of The Patriarchy, made all the way back in '92 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIomA2MQNI4&t=1402s 11:18- 11:26 Women are several decades ahead of us in one respect: They've had dissidents like CP calling out feminist jargon for being th…	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 10:24 AM
-1	Is it wrong to not want to include wokeness in men's rights? Guys and gals both need to remain whatever it is that they are when they emerge from the poonana, with perhaps the only exception here being those who are born intersex. I can believe that some folks really do think that they're closer to a gender that's opposite to the one they were born with, nonetheless it's confusing as fuck when folks start doing this shit they've been doing lately. Let's keep life simple	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 09:40 AM
1	Why do people love shitting on men? Firstly, you said, "MRAs oppose anything that could be considered progressive or left-of-center." When someone doesn't put "some" before something, one can safely assume they mean all, which is objectively not true. Yeah; it would've been far more precise to write that the rockstars of The MRM(the folks who orchestrate ICMI)are the ones guilty of the sort of piss-poor logic and rampant irrationality that I'me describing. Lots of folks in the movement's rank and file are less intemperate, much …	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 08:28 AM
1	We should know about this And your ideas about resources spending seem interesting The tragedy of The MRM is that it hasn't had a Bjorn Lomborg equivalent yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAVdi3Xm7f4&t=526s Men's issues don't exist in a vacuum. They exist in a world filled with problems, all of which have lobbyists who are convinced that they're more worthy of funding and attention than everyone else is. If we're serious about making progress on "men's issues", it's going to be imperative for us to start connecting …	/r/MensRights	30/07/22 06:29 PM
0	Why do people love shitting on men? Uh, MRAs WANT shared parenting legislation. I never denied that at least some of them do. Re-read what I wrote: "Just as Eco-Warriors opposed anything that could be considered capitalistic or conservative as a matter of religious devotion, MRAs oppose anything that could be considered progressive or left-of-center. Goes without saying, they've all got highly elastic definitions of words like "conservative" and "progressive". So much so, that anyone who supports shared parenting legislation and…	/r/MensRights	30/07/22 06:18 PM
0	Why do people love shitting on men? The MRM is very similar to Environmentalism on several fronts. As pertains this chat we're having: The Green Movement was an outgrowth of the counterculture of the late 60s, and as such has clung tenaciously to the New Left dogma that emerged during that era, and served as the progenitor of what today call Woke Thought. While advocates for men's issues have existed for a long time ( https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ https://archive.org/details/Radioutlaw-PlayboyColumnistAsaBaberMantalk…	/r/MensRights	30/07/22 03:41 PM
2	We should know about this Erin Pizzey has done some superb work that's brought relief to many folks in need, and she deserves immense credit and respect for this. She also has admitted that when she did succeed in opening a men's shelter, it wasn't just feminist resistance that did the project in.... Turns out, men themselves largely weren't interested in using a shelter, on account of their discomfort with the communal aspect of such a set up, as well as the social stigma of coming forth and admitting that we're getting…	/r/MensRights	30/07/22 02:31 PM
19	Why is it selfish to want sex? Desiring sex in and of itself is human, neither selfish or unselfish. Now, as men our sex drives are on average higher than that of women, and we're pretty horny for the duration of our lives, provided we're in decent physical shape. Lower testosterone and changes after menopause ensure that chicks are seldom as randy as we are during all stages of their lives, so any guy who expects that his woman will ever be as enthusiastic about fucking as he is will be in for a world of disappointment You…	/r/MensRights	30/07/22 02:15 PM
2	Why do people love shitting on men? There's cause for us to all take a collective step back, and subject The MRA's central tenets to same rigor and skepticism that we apply to the rhetoric espoused by all other special interests on the planet, ala. what Shellenberger and Nordhaus's searing analysis of environmentalism back in '06 https://www.npr.org/2005/03/18/4541344/the-death-of-environmentalism https://grist.org/article/doe-reprint/ , before we start formulating solutions. The leadership of The MRM's decision to conceptualize "…	/r/MensRights	30/07/22 01:19 PM
1	Lecture 10: The Eventual Outcome of Feminism, Part I I don't know what Paul Elam is doing I haven't visited his website in ages. Someone on this forums regularly posts links to the latest lecture from AVFM. Elam himself was, by his own admittance, an eighth-rate ripoff of Tom Leykis(Leykis was a lot more fun than Elam's ever been), who also plagiarized large sections of Rollo Tomasi's writings, along with shit he read in The Game, the rants of Milo Yiannopoulos , and likely several million more writers. Like Dennis Leary and Amy Shoo-Mer before …	/r/MensRights	30/07/22 01:12 PM
1	Why do people love shitting on men? MRAs have tried to level the playing field, by using their platform mostly to call out the existence of prejudice and stereotypes + lament all the ways that life unfair in modern America, while having very little energy for discussing viable strategies for action. The barbarically forgotten Asa Baber warned us about this back in '94 https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ Note his words about "the culture of complaint, which form the last lines of the article Given that we're all going to …	/r/MensRights	30/07/22 12:38 PM
1	Why do people love shitting on men? The whole thing with Muslims and Arabs persists today, just not on the national stage anymore. Speaking Arabic or anything that kinda sounds like Arabic can get you some weird looks. MRAs themselves aren't immune from what you're describing. Take a look at ICMI's rolling out the red carpet for modern day Rush Limbaugh equivalents like Carl Benjamin and some other loser who goes by Mr. Regan, both of whom are proponents of immigration hysteria and this Great Replacement nonsense.... Prominent M…	/r/MensRights	30/07/22 12:28 PM
2	Who'll speak up for the working-class white boys who've become Britain's new oppressed minority? It's not even a modern phenomena https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK994dAzcKI The advent of social media just brought all this crap to the public's attention at long last	/r/MensRights	30/07/22 09:47 AM
2	Who'll speak up for the working-class white boys who've become Britain's new oppressed minority? That's the antidote to identity politics. Start talking about "white straight male rights", rather than human freedom and prosperity. We started up on this nonsense back in the late 60s, by pretending that "black problems", "women's problems", "gay problems", "Indigenous issues", etc etc exist separately from the ills that plague America more broadly. This separatist approach has worked marvelously. So much so, that are universities aren't now currently overrun with bullshit fields like African …	/r/MensRights	30/07/22 09:45 AM
1	Why do people love shitting on men? Some will always misrepresent us, it's true. The approach favored by The MRM since about '15 though("Perpetuate all the negative stereotypes, by looking and speaking like an embittered, morbidly obese neck beard who's living in a basement, and who spends most of his waking hours glued to video game console or keyboard. Be the male equivalent of Andrea Dworkin, in other words")has succeeded only one front though.... The movement's now politically and socially weaker than it's ever been Saying "…	/r/MensRights	30/07/22 09:31 AM
0	P&G: Progressivism and Gynocentrism "Gynocentrism"..... Yet another buzzword that we moderns hurl around, to sound more clever than we are, and avoid saying what we mean and meaning what we say. Making progress is going to require that we return to the drawing board, and learn how to speak like human beings once again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP-1WTZ2cWs&t=528s I'm not just picking on Red Pillers here either. Even The Woke are beginning to realize that they've got problems on this front https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/…	/r/MensRights	30/07/22 08:14 AM
2	My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother reveals I don't know if this is the true definition but think of the red pill primarily as the awakening process and where people go from there as very open ended. The Red Pill's long since gone the way of Woke. Both began as a little harmless slang, with very narrow definitions("Everything you've learned from rom-coms and Disney movies about what attracts women to men is bunk" in the case of TRP. "Your pastor fucked up, when he told us that prayer alone will bring us freedom"), and have now become …	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 03:36 PM
0	My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother reveals "COVID was probably about as close as we're going to get in the short term, which admittedly affected everybody, but you'd at least expect that it would make people think twice about how much they really value others and how we should all band together as human beings in times of hardship. Practically everybody experienced being isolated, many experienced being lonely, many became depressed, anxious, scared for the future. If that doesn't make people understand how important it is that we relate…	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 01:25 PM
-3	My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother reveals MeToo was just a turned up to 11 version of the perils that men have faced in the workplace for decades. During the 2000s, a pre-Woke Askmen was cautioning men to avoid flirting in the office, and "Don't dip your pen in the company ink" had been around longer than that. Hell, before the word sexual harassment entered the lexicon, men were fired for the equally vague and specious charge of "not being a gentleman" Yes, there are specific laws and policies that we must amend. Not just for the sak…	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 11:30 AM
1	My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother reveals There's definitely an intellectual debate to be had, as to whether marriage is especially rational now that we're living 8 to 9 decades, and likely may soon be living even longer. Staying with one person until you die, and having sex with only that person!!! Where's the fun in that? We humans just ain't that rational though; most men and women will marry at some point, especially when pregnancy and kids enter the picture	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 11:21 AM
-13	My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother reveals Those self-proclaimed MGTOWs who are trying to avoid women are similar to feminists who bought into Steinem's fraud(A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle), all while she was out having boyfriends of her own. Or for that matter that portion of the gay male population who during The 70s retreated from the hardships of life by remaining in a permanent state of adolescence, marked by rampant substance abuse and promiscuity. Escapist dogs like these didn't hunt back then, and they don't now…	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 09:53 AM
11	My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother reveals ’m surprised governments aren’t more interested in re-engaging men to want to marry more. There shouldn’t be anything that scares a government more than a large population of men who are down trodden, ignored, socially isolated and have nothing to lose" Modern men are actually in straits similar to those of gays in The US during The 70s, prior to the AIDS epidemic pummeling them over like a tsunami in the early 80s. Just as most of the gay community broke away from society during The Days Of D…	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 09:20 AM
12	My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother reveals This is why the red pill and MGTOW don’t need to recruit. It’s getting worse every year. The most prominent Red Pillers and MGTOWs are overwhelmingly themselves married, albeit at least a few of those marriages are common law. As to whether it's getting worse.... I've got no idea how many stories like this happen each year, much less whether or not they've increased, decreased, or more or less remained constant over the past several decades, give or take the occasional moral panic like MeToo I…	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 09:00 AM
7	My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother reveals When I was a high school kid in the 90s, a first grader at the elementary school two blocks away was expelled for kissing a girl in his class. The rationale being that he'd committed sexual harassment. This stuff has been going on for a long time, and it may never go away entirely Not saying that we shouldn't fight against unjust laws and irrational policies, because such fights are noble and worthwhile. Let's also be honest about how much is humanly achievable. Talking here reducing suffering…	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 08:51 AM
1	Lecture 10: The Eventual Outcome of Feminism, Part I No, this is a first world problem, when it gets too bad 'men' will simply leave Where do you plan on going, Den? This isn't a rhetorical question either; you're one of many men who seems to be entertaining the slogan "Vote With Your Feet", espoused by folk like Paul Elam and other Ayatollahs Of Red Pill Theology. Elam and his inner circle have amassed a small fortune each, via donations and exorbitant fees some of them have charged for "counseling services" of dubious merit, thus they're among…	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 08:43 AM
2	Lecture 10: The Eventual Outcome of Feminism, Part I "We're moving closer to a world where men are presumed guilty. Where men won't be able to make a single move without being given permission. It's all about controlling us. We're already at the point of living in constant fear of being falsely accused and having no hope of not having everything taken away because of it." Men who get falsely accused of any crime by a woman have ALWAYS, since times immemorial, have had to swim upstream when proving their innocence/exposing the chick as a maliciou…	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 08:33 AM
38	Why do people love shitting on men? Beyond tolerating it, we've been content to grip online about how unfair this moral panic we've been in the midst of. As long as we're doing that, rather than going out into our neighborhoods and communities for the express purposes of countering the stereotypes about men being nothing but rapists, thugs, and oppressors, that's the way it's going to stay	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 07:04 AM
2	Why do people love shitting on men? Same reason we loved shitting on gays during the 70s, drug addicts during the 80s and 90s, and anyone who "looked Muslim" until from '01-'12. Every era needs a supervillian	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 07:00 AM
9	Whistling at a woman set to become criminal offense in UK, but you can still cut part of your son's penis off no problem 🤡🌍 You never heard any of the UK feminists say anything about Rotherham And the fact that most of these broads are still hot and heavy over Jon Hamm shows just how unserious they are about all this toxic masculinity nonsense	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 06:40 AM
1	Lecture 11: The Eventual Outcome of Feminism, Part II Quote from the article: "The physical destruction of maleness is the logical outcome of feminist governance. The more feminist governance exists, the more anti-male persecution there will be, and the closer to Holocaust we will find ourselves." Both the author of that article and most card carrying MRAs are unfailingly slippery, when they toss out words like "feminist governance". Exactly what the hell are they talking about? A government where feminists lobbies exercise influence beyond their…	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 02:55 AM
14	Whistling at a woman set to become criminal offense in UK, but you can still cut part of your son's penis off no problem 🤡🌍 The debate over wolf whistling and circumcision are instances of straining at a gnat while swallowing a camel	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 01:35 AM
-4	Lived so long in a world that needs to tell men how to treat women in a relationship. But how should men be treated and is it even an concern? In the not too distant past, Marie Forleo wrote a book titled Make Every Man Want You on this very subject. Pity that the 21 Studios invited a buffoon like Stefan Molyneux to speak at their Make Women Great Again conference, rather than her	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 01:32 AM
-3	Male Disposability War and it's effects have never been a gendered problem. It's always been and will continue to be a human problem	/r/MensRights	29/07/22 01:10 AM
0	Male Disposability Lots of luck creating a world where men don't make up the majority of work place deaths. Seeing as these fellas are mostly there of their own free will, and in many cases getting paid pretty well for the sort of work they're doing(drilling for oil out in the middle of the ocean is highly lucrative. Special Ops make considerably more money than regularly ol' infantry does, plus they command a high fee when they leave government service for private contractor gigs, The list goes on), there's cause…	/r/MensRights	28/07/22 10:12 PM
-2	Serious Question here, why do we allow people to argue here with views that oppose our rights? So you can't back it up You can check out the examples I provided to Emiriko, or ignore what I wrote, and pretend that this= "He can't back up what he said"	/r/MensRights	28/07/22 09:12 PM
1	UK government classifies male victims of domestic abuse (and other crimes) as male victims of violence against women and girls. By your logic, does that mean this UK problem has no relation to the US and won't affect American men in any way? No telling. US restaurants are serving bangers and mash now; anything's possible	/r/MensRights	28/07/22 09:07 PM
1	Gynocentrism in Media I don't want to hear about drugs, sex, murder, etc either. I just want nice music that makes me feel good Sounds like you're down to the tunes of Raffy then	/r/MensRights	28/07/22 09:03 PM
1	Serious Question here, why do we allow people to argue here with views that oppose our rights? You seem to be pretty openly disagreeing with us and not being banned for someone disagreeing in a subreddit that apparently has a non-existent commitment to free speech because of people using terms you think are dumb. I never said this subreddit wasn't committed to free speech. The mindset expressed by The OP and the leadership of The MRM though are indicative of folks who are at best fair weather friends of free speech	/r/MensRights	28/07/22 09:01 PM
-14	Serious Question here, why do we allow people to argue here with views that oppose our rights? Can you back them up? Go check out every video Paul Elam's put out on his respective YouTube channels since about '15, as well as HBR's video library, for starters	/r/MensRights	28/07/22 01:58 PM
1	What will it take for people to genuinely care about male suicide, boys' education, fathers' access to their children etc.? " We live in a world and time where pretty much every demographic has a human rights movement that is given sincere credit and attention, except for the straight white adult male. It’s hard to convince most people today that men deserve empathy". Let's not compound the problem(Every demographic talking about rights for themselves, as opposed to HUMAN freedom and prosperity), by encouraging straight white males to mimic the separatist ideology of The Woke Left. Given all the heartache that iden…	/r/MensRights	28/07/22 12:45 PM
-19	Serious Question here, why do we allow people to argue here with views that oppose our rights? Freedom of expression is a core part of the MRM - we need to be able to speak, and the silencing of mens' issues is a huge part of the problem. Banning people with dissenting oppinions would be hypocritical. It WAS a core part of The MRM, for a very brief moment in '14. That all changed when the movement's rockstars started hurling the terms Blue Pill, Purple Pill, Misandrist, and Gynoncentric at any who questioned the party line, said something they didn't agree with, or just generally proved…	/r/MensRights	28/07/22 12:29 PM
2	Serious Question here, why do we allow people to argue here with views that oppose our rights? In other subs we usually see instant bans so why can't we do the same? We've got entirely too much of that(folks being ejected for "offensive" and "hateful" speech)in our nation as it is Considering that the number of serious mens spaces on reddit can be counted on one hand why do we tolerate this? Let's then be prepared to ban everyone, except a vanishingly small number of folks who think they're doing God's work by repeating everything they read over at AVFM and hear on HBR, without ever…	/r/MensRights	28/07/22 12:24 PM
-5	I am tired of being a guy in today's society Our society if rife with prejudices towards and ignorance about men, this is true. I'd encourage you to not dump gasoline on the brushfire, by speaking like this: "Earlier I retalliated to my grandma cause she was like: "OP carries all of this home, we go back to shopping". No one on this planet, regardless of gender, can expect to not be treated like a retard, when he or she acts and speaks like one	/r/MensRights	28/07/22 12:02 PM
0	UK government classifies male victims of domestic abuse (and other crimes) as male victims of violence against women and girls. So what the fuck is your point? The MRM has fallen prey to the same dysfunctional thinking that characterizes feminism. Seeing all national problems through a gendered lens, rather than as American problems that invite the attention and energies of us all	/r/MensRights	28/07/22 07:38 AM
0	UK government classifies male victims of domestic abuse (and other crimes) as male victims of violence against women and girls. I presume you mean to write "emasculation". Yeah; our attempts to make boys get more in touch with their feminine side and girls more in touch with their inner Melissa McCarthy aren't gendered problems; they're American problems. Let's just leave the kids(boys and girls)the fuck alone already	/r/MensRights	28/07/22 07:35 AM
3	Gynocentrism in Media I pretty much only listen to foreign music now because all the Western stuff is totally Gynocentric. There's always gangsta rap, if one wants to spend hours hearing about how crazy bitches be	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 08:21 PM
1	I fucking TOLD YOU!!! I warned EVERYONE here that feminists were ORGANISING planned attacks against our subs, using tricks like pretending to be one of us, all while derailing, trolling and so on!! This is PROOF. No doubt some of them will post claiming otherwise now they are exposed. Pity that they're behaving in such a passive aggressive fashion, rather than showing up for a dialectic. No shortage of us here have the wiles and the tenacity to play Daryl Davis to their Roger Kelly	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 08:12 PM
2	So, I am the oppressor. So, I am the oppressor This reminds me of a recent interview with the incomparable Jon Rauch awhile back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFVRRP-J9mI&t=1770s The situation men have been facing not just now, but for quite a long time is similar to what Rauch describes between 14:13-17:27 We've been taught by MRAs that society hates men because it's evil to it's core, and that feminists are the equivalent of The Klansmen who were hanging black people from lamp posts during The 1920s and Nazis who…	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 08:06 PM
1	UK government classifies male victims of domestic abuse (and other crimes) as male victims of violence against women and girls. Perhaps we should also remove sexuality from assault and just treat it as assault: That's worthy of discussion also. The fact that we consider someone grabbing someone else's butt, tits, dick, or pussy "sexual" says a great deal about our demented ideas about sex and the body, Apparently, assault becomes "sexual" whenever parts of the body we consider sexy in certain circumstances are targeted by an assailant. If someone grabs another's face or shoulders and shoves them a few feet back, by con…	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 05:01 PM
2	Someone on reddit told me that I don’t understand what it’s like to be harassed because I’m a man, decided to face it head on and tell her a little bit about my life. Someone on reddit told me that I don’t understand what it’s like to be harassed because I’m a man Whenever a chick says this to any man, all we need to do is retort: "Spend a day or three in the ghetto or the barrio, especially if you're an adolescent boy who's trying mightily to not get ensnarer by the knucklehead gang bangers who've got the entire community under their collective thumbs. Between these pricks and the cops who aren't much nobler, it's a pretty harassing environment, for both m…	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 03:35 PM
0	UK government classifies male victims of domestic abuse (and other crimes) as male victims of violence against women and girls. You say it is not as complicated as MRAs have led you to believe but then you outline a solution that is identical to what MRAs have been proposing for decades. Actually, i took both feminists and MRAs to task for making this stuff a gendered issue, rather than a human one. Today's MRM hasn't been using their public platform to agitate for taking the gender out of the mix. By their own admittance, the most prominent folks in the movement's mission statement is to rid the world of feminism and …	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 02:17 PM
-6	UK government classifies male victims of domestic abuse (and other crimes) as male victims of violence against women and girls. Early advocates like the barbarically overlooked Asa Baber( https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ https://archive.org/details/Radioutlaw-PlayboyColumnistAsaBaberMantalkInterviewPart1706-2 https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2001-09-09-0109090183-story.html ), Jack Kammer, Mike Arst, and the remarkable James Cook( https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101833696 )and Ned Holstein ( https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106820029 ), all of whom identifie…	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 02:00 PM
1	Meanwhile, in Australia: Women are opposing coercive control laws Yeah. I didn't mean to imply that those were your words	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 12:59 PM
-1	Meanwhile, in Australia: Women are opposing coercive control laws Meanwhile, a male victim of DV who calls the police for help has a greater chance of being arrested himself (33%) than of seeing his female abuser arrested (25%). Not a single word from feminists on that very common injustice that happens every single day. All the more incentive for those of us who are serious about securing an improvement to our fortunes to spend less time on The Manosphere screeching "I hate feminism!!!", and devote more energy towards going out into our neighborhoods and co…	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 12:25 PM
1	Meanwhile, in Australia: Women are opposing coercive control laws "Coercive control" is yet another example of our modern fondness for speaking buzzwords and jargon rather than plain language. All of us, no matter where we sit on the political spectrum, could benefit exponentially from devoting a few minutes out of each day to sharpening our ability to speak and write in lucid, succinct sentences	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 12:11 PM
-5	UK government classifies male victims of domestic abuse (and other crimes) as male victims of violence against women and girls. As a male victim and sole parent now to my children who were also victims I'm appaled by this utter disdain for victims. It explains why my abuser was able get get away with 16 years of domestic abuse and violence and I'm left with no closure and trying to rebuild a life for myself and my children. A couple of questions, which aren't rhetorical, Armada: -Do you think it's emotionally healthy to refer to and think of yourself as a victim, rather than a human being, who had unpleasant experience…	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 12:07 PM
1	UK government classifies male victims of domestic abuse (and other crimes) as male victims of violence against women and girls. Been like this for a while. These are very dangerous times for makes of our species None of this stuff is new https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1992-12-06-9203040853-story.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIomA2MQNI4&t=2082s 12:07-forward https://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/signs-she-s-crazy_5.html https://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-10-cruel-things-women-do-to-men.html All that's unique about the world we've been living in since abo…	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 11:51 AM
-4	UK government classifies male victims of domestic abuse (and other crimes) as male victims of violence against women and girls. Lol this is actually worse than the "Meteor strikes earth, women most affected" joke. That's what happens when we start speaking and thinking of societal troubles in gendered terms. We can't honestly blame feminists alone for this anymore. From the very get-go, the current iteration of The MRM has had a strong separatist and identertarian bent, and since about '15, we've been hell-bent on pretending that "men's issues" exist separately from the ills that plague America overall	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 11:21 AM
3	UK government classifies male victims of domestic abuse (and other crimes) as male victims of violence against women and girls. UK government classifies male victims of domestic abuse (and other crimes) as male victims of violence against women and girls. The solution to this actually ain't as complicated as feminists and MRAs alike have led us to believe..... Take the gender out of this completely, and classify assault as a crime some human beings commit against their fellow humans. It's unnecessary and irrational for us to make this a matter of male victims of violence against women and girls, or female violence agai…	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 11:13 AM
1	The Justice system favors women I was a member of IMDB's discussion forums from '04-until they closed down a few years back, under this same screen name	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 10:40 AM
1	Men work and earn more than women, but women make 70-80% of spending choices. Then organize the issues in order of how easy to argue for and bipartisan they are and start with the easiest one to fix. There needs to be visible protests and lobbying just like feminism, and, unfortunately, due to the way the power structure favors feminists, some men will have to risk their careers and social circles until society takes us seriously. We could benefit from a philosophical schism similar to the one that's existed in the gay rights movement for decades now https://monthlyrevi…	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 10:37 AM
3	One man's story of how people reacted to the abuse he suffered. I agree that it's progress, but man is that sad, pretty sure dude wouldn't have received probation if it was the other way around(and he shouldn't, if it had been). Sentencing disparities are likely one of those problems that we have very little power to correct	/r/MensRights	27/07/22 08:32 AM
-5	Men Should Not Take Dating Advice From Female Experts It amuses me that you used a word like perspocacious but then used the wrong their Corrected now. Much obliged to you, for pointing that out to me	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 09:35 PM
0	C.S. Lewis: The Feudalisation of Love Let's finally admit that all this "gynocentrism" nonsense is nothing more than a refraction of feminism's equally fraudulent notion of "androcentrism". These are buzzwords we hurl at everything we find mildly objectionable	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 09:14 PM
-1	C.S. Lewis: The Feudalisation of Love \| Gynocentrism and its Cultural Origins Anyone who's seen The Normal Heart is aware that homosexuals have also been known to take part in the theater of getting down on one knee, before asking a partner to marry him or her. This is one of many inconvenient facts which undercuts Red Pill Theology's assertion that gynocentrism pervades Western Civilization Some day in the very near future, we must discuss this "gynocentrism" nonsense being nothing more than a refraction of feminism's equally fallacious notion of androcentrism. Like al…	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 09:09 PM
35	One man's story of how people reacted to the abuse he suffered. In the end, she was convicted and received probation. Your cuz overcame a substantial hurdle, by proving his case against this chick. That alone is impressive, and worthy of celebration	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 08:51 PM
2	Men Should Not Take Dating Advice From Female Experts This field is similar to executive coaching and the like. Some are more intellectually sound than others, and all of it's far from peer reviewed science. We make the mistake of believing this stuff too much at our own peril	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 08:48 PM
2	Men Should Not Take Dating Advice From Female Experts I will only take relationship advice from men who are in healthy, long term relationships. I am a man, and I am interested in learning about the role of men in long term, hetrosexual relationships. I want to learn by observing other men in long term, successful relationships rather than from offered advice. Yeah; one can read all the books and watch all the videos he wants. This isn't a replacement for actually leaving our homes and interacting with real human beings out in the wild	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 08:43 PM
-11	Men Should Not Take Dating Advice From Female Experts Fishermen who don't exaggerate are less common than highly literate prison inmates, and most guys offering dating advice aren't any more perspicacious than their female counterparts. These fellas can claim that they're studs, but we've got only their word to go on	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 08:42 PM
1	Men Should Not Take Dating Advice From Female Experts That video looks as if he compiled TikTok videos from random women. Dating advice from women is like dating advice from anyone else..... We walk in knowing that none of this stuff is peer-reviewed science, regardless of the gender of the person spouting it. At best, some of these folks have been diligent enough to read, research, and interview as many people as they can. They can honestly say that their thoughts are undergirded by more than a scintilla of evidence	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 08:38 PM
1	The Justice system favors women I've borne this name across multiple sites for over 20 years. I've also borne my same screen name across multiple sites since the early 2000s	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 07:36 PM
1	Men work and earn more than women, but women make 70-80% of spending choices. I guess that's why Jordan Peterson is big on cleaning our own room, I wish the YT gurus would focus on the basics every man can do but I guess politics and the red pill rage is where the money and interest is at. There are channels like Real Men, Real Style, Alpha M, The Gentleman's Gazette, and even some that have been mislabelled as PUAs(Trip Lanier, Scott McKay, Bobby Rio)who discus topics like learning how to dress sharply, eat nutritiously, smell good, avoid fucking up your finances, improv…	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 07:34 PM
0	The Justice system favors women You're not using your real name either	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 01:52 PM
0	The Justice system favors women When they have to do so as a sock puppet I take it you were never a fan of Crank Yankers	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 12:17 PM
3	Men work and earn more than women, but women make 70-80% of spending choices. Part of it is lazy men letting their wives buy their underpants and shavingfoam but I bet divorced men and dads giving their ex's money also accounts for a good portion. Basically men need to control their wallets and buy their own things, we live in the age of internet shopping so there is no excuse. Maybe Gillette and their ilk wouldn't make so many adverts aimed at women if men did this I've floated similar ideas("Let's not wait on women or society to change in some dramatic way, before we do…	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 11:24 AM
1	Men work and earn more than women, but women make 70-80% of spending choices. To be fair a lot of these can just be grocery shopping and buying necessary family/household items, including shit like candles and decorations for the home. Women do control finances in most family as far as I can tell, but it’s mostly because men don’t want to deal with the headache of shopping for the household. What I've also noticed; when those of us in The MRM's rank and file start encouraging men to take more of an interest in things like shopping for the household(i.e. exerting their p…	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 11:15 AM
2	Men work and earn more than women, but women make 70-80% of spending choices. Men and women shop differently; this isn't anything new https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/29/fashion/men-shop-in-bulk.html Fascinating stuff intellectually, and one also has to wonder: What more can we do about this? I won't say that there's it's entirely meritless to encourage the ladies to not go to town on her husband's credit card, nonetheless have we really become delusional enough to believe that our power to alter the way women shop is especially strong? More importantly, what's the connect…	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 11:06 AM
1	Another Child Will Be Fatherless, due to a failed court system I recall reading somewhere that The NAACP would regularly hang a black flag outside of it's offices during The 1920s, containing the names of everyone who had been lynched, and regularly adding more names whenever one of these cases happened. Those of us who are serious about achieving legal reform such as making shared parenting the law of the land oughta to do something similar By which I mean don't settle for what we've been doing thus far; posting stories like the one in The OP on random m…	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 10:17 AM
-1	The Justice system favors women Yeah; everyone and anyone who questions The MRM's tactics and underlying philosophy is, by default, a feminist	/r/MensRights	26/07/22 08:36 AM
-10	The Justice system favors women One man's troll is another's iconoclast	/r/MensRights	25/07/22 07:56 PM
-6	The Justice system favors women Just don't get married and play into the system. This is similar to black nationalism and hip hop teaching impoverished blacks that staying in the ghetto and away from "white society=being strong and authentic, and the gay community in the 70s retreating into a state of permanent adolescence by foregoing agitating for marriage rights and an end to employment discrimination. Dropping out of society and pretending that we're above and apart from the rest of America may make us FEEL good temporar…	/r/MensRights	25/07/22 06:38 PM
2	The Justice system favors women If women have the right to terminate a child men should have the right to leave the child without repercussions. And ISIS ought to stop beheading captives and enslaving Yazidi women today, then commit to lives of impeccable integrity. Such things are less likely than Emily Ratajkowski keeping her clothes on for more than 5 minutes at a time Those in charge better do away with unfair child support/ unfair divorce court hearings if they want more men casting votes in their direction. Very tr…	/r/MensRights	25/07/22 06:26 PM
-2	Lecture 9: False Consciousness & Kafka-Trapping Quote the article: "That is to say, it cannot be reasoned with. It is a waste of time trying to get feminists to see sense, and every MRA soon learns that he will more easily squeeze blood from a stone. The only discourse which will make feminists sit up and change their ways is the discourse of power: and this is a discourse that must be backed by action. Anti-feminists must be comfortable with the idea of wielding power over feminists, at least enough to marginalize them into irrelevance. This…	/r/MensRights	25/07/22 02:29 PM
1	What’s your guy’s thoughts on misandrists, blaming everything on a “patriarchy”or “toxic masculinity”? The word "misandrist" has long since gone the way of "racist" and "misogynist"..... We moderns hurl such terms promiscuously at anyone who says or does something we find objectionable. And we set rational thought back a couple of centuries, by regularly failing to distinguish David Duke and Susan Danuta Walters from the lily white Nightingale-Bamford freshman who clutches her purse a little bit tighter when a black guy in T shirt and jeans walks by, or the 21 year old intern around the office wh…	/r/MensRights	25/07/22 07:39 AM
4	This is the reason that feminists hate men and manhood so much TL;DR: Feminists only hate manhood and masculinity when it inconveniences them. We can break this down even further: Human beings are still human beings, no matter what labels we place on ourselves. We're all driven to invest in that which enriches our own lives in some way, and averse to anything that which appears as if it might bring us heartache	/r/MensRights	25/07/22 03:54 AM
1	This is the reason that feminists hate men and manhood so much Feminists dig manhood, provided that it's attached to a fella like Christian Grey or Massimo from 365 Days. And said fella is cramming his manhood up their coochies	/r/MensRights	25/07/22 03:51 AM
0	The Boy Crisis: A Sobering look at the State of our Boys \| Warren Farrel... As compelling as much of Farrell's work has been, he's been sounding this alarm since at least The early 90s https://reason.com/1994/07/01/man-troubles/ , much in the way of environmentalists have been prognosticating ecological apocalypse since they came on the scene in The 70s. Lo and behold, the world's still got lots of problems, nonetheless The Gender God hasn't reigned hellfire down on America as punishment for not sympathizing as readily with men as we often do with women, just as Gaia ha…	/r/MensRights	25/07/22 03:13 AM
0	'Male college crisis': Male high school graduates going to college at much lower rates than women Statistically, men have always been more likely to opt for military service, work, or trade school after high school. What's often left out of this debate: 75% of all Americans(male AND female alike)have no little to no secondary education at all, and a large percentage of them have no desire to attend a four year university, much less pursue grad school. Abolishing Title IX is a noble cause, and also one that doesn't stand to actually provide those who are in need with a path upward mobility. T…	/r/MensRights	25/07/22 12:33 AM
2	Actionable ideas Makes perfect sense to me. I'm just expanding upon your idea, by proposing that we not only spend more time engaging in sociopolitical engagement out on the ground, in our neighborhoods and communities, but that we also be a lot more careful about driving off not just ex-feminists, but everyone we encounter. The MRM has gone out of it's way to NOT BE conscious of how we look, speak, and act in front of the cameras and when in public, and the movement has not surprisingly achieved very little	/r/MensRights	24/07/22 10:00 AM
4	Lecture 8: Chasing Rainbows In summary then: For rights to get signed into law, then continue to exist in a political context(precisely speaking, everyone's got the right to do whatever the hell they want. Whether or not their exercise of that right is moral or sane is another matter entirely), whoever is agitating for said rights has to persuade a substantial portion of their fellow citizens that it's in their own best interest to support a revision of law and policy. Even if, frequently enough, that substantial portion o…	/r/MensRights	24/07/22 09:47 AM
1	Actionable ideas Be nice to ex-feminists. Be patient with them. Let's take it one step further. Let's defy the stereotypical image of a "men's advocate" as potbellied and neck bearded reprobates(an image that folk like Paul Elam, Carl Benjamin, and Brian Martinez embraced and reveled in)who are incapable of speaking in anything other than Red Pill jargon, and who are both foolish and conceited enough to think that they're above and beyond society. Let's groom, replace the graphic Ts with polo shirts, thrown on…	/r/MensRights	24/07/22 06:38 AM
1	Actionable ideas Amen to that, throw. After about the first year of it's existence, The MRM's leadership has been steadily emulating the sort of jackassery one sees on The Woke Left, as described here by John McWhorter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r29uPHicew Yes, it's irrational and immoral to label and conceptualize anyone as inherently prone to malevolence, just because of their skin color or gender. Aside from the occasional David Duke or Susan Danita-Walters, very few people here in 21st Century America …	/r/MensRights	24/07/22 06:20 AM
2	Actionable ideas List out actual steps we can take at our level to make this world a better place for us. On that note, let's stop pretending that "men's problems" are somehow separate from the ills that afflict our nation overall. Talking here ills like a drug war that locks up several million Americans needlessly(a disproportionate number of whom happen to be men), poverty policies which keep people poor or/and stuck in barely-minimum wage work(even pre-COVID, fewer men were in the workforce than was the cas…	/r/MensRights	24/07/22 05:05 AM
2	Phrases of a Straw MRA Funny you mention Andrea Dworkin. The most famous MRA on the planet-Paul Elam-is a bizarre hybrid of Dennis Leary(dude's plagiarized everyone from Tom Leykis, to Rollo Tomasi, to Milo Yianapahapulaopous, to shit he read on Askmen prior to their going Woke on us a couple of years back. Much in the way Leary ripped off everyone from Bill Hicks to Louis CK)and Ms. Dworkin So much so, it ain't hard to imagine Elam being in a debate such as this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt8KVB8AunQ&t=1257s…	/r/MensRights	18/07/22 10:11 AM