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Do you know any man dating 10-20 women who are only seeing him?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:27 PM
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But if every woman has someone but most men don’t have anyone, where are all the men coming from that women have? Is it all the same guy just dating 10-20 women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:24 PM
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For this to be true, wouldn’t there need to be a lot more men than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:57 PM
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Who are all the people being in relationships with these women and inviting them to social events and being fuck buddies, affair partners etc with them? Do they materialise and then disappear so they don’t appear to average men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:54 PM
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You’re touching on a lot of the parts I take issue with in PUA. It’s trying to break down attraction into a science by oversimplifying it. This is the bait that makes many struggling men seek it. The problem is attraction is not simple. It’s enormously complex and as a species we don’t understand it very well from a biochemical perspective let alone culturally or emotionally. But it’s a core part of just being human and life. By simplifying it, PUAs like to frame some basic Maslovian tenets as “…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 05:10 PM
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I think the vast majority of people. Like 90%+ of people in the world. But if pinnacle of socialisation for you is to hang out with people who act and talk like Trump and Elon, then the red pill and PUA might actually just be perfect for you. I hope it makes you happy 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:51 PM
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Yet everyone would agree both Trump and Elon would be more likeable if they had some humility. And everyone would hate to be with anyone who acted like Trump or Elon. Being a person with humility does not mean getting walked over. Being an interesting person means people want to hear you talk, not you’ve talked over other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:39 PM
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Being an interesting person has little to do with your interests or hobbies. If anything, clowns who study delivery are anything but interesting. People with lived experiences and introspection who can have a conversation with anyone and offer perspective and insights with humility. Now they are interesting. That person can relate whatever they may have an interesting in, whether it be gaming mice, mechanical keyboards or chess, and relate it to other people’s lived experiences in a meaningful w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:58 PM
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There’s a huge difference between putting the self improvement work in to become an interesting and attractive person, and learning step by step scripts to pretend for a few minutes to be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:01 AM
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So are these people above pill ideology if attractive people from wealthy families only marry others from the same status?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:18 AM
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There are also young and hot wealthy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:03 PM
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That’s an interesting perspective. Are you saying it’s for the benefit of women to lower their standards and date lower than they can. And this is why men against hypergamy target women to convince rather than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:30 AM
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Fair points. Do you think it has always been this way or is it a recent development?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:22 AM
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But isn’t it also a few men who are making a decision of dating/fucking women beneath their level according to hypergamy? If the top men chose to not do this, hypergamy wouldn’t exist and women’s expectations would be tempered. The argument seems to be that women have an abundance of choice, far above what they should justifiably have based on what they have to offer. It seems more prudent to me to place blame at the people giving them that choice, than to tell women not to choose. If not for lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:38 AM
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Got it. We must outlaw cats to fix hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:12 PM
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Isn’t the argument that it used to not be like that? And modern online dating has given women a plethora of choice, so they can pick and choose men much higher calibre than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:39 PM
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I agree, historically it was even frowned upon to get divorced. That’s how hard monogamy was enforced. My argument is that many men complaining about hypergamy want to reimpose that kind of thinking on women rather than the alpha men with harems they claim exist. Couldn’t you cut down your work by 80-90% by targeting the men rather than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:59 PM
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But haven’t we collectively found out that if we really want to affect change, we stop it at the source? Eg stop drug dealers rather than individual drug users? Stopping individual drug users seem to be more about shaming rather than being effective at changing anything as long as drug users are running rampant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:57 PM
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By that logic we can’t stigmatize customers of any service. Whether that be smokers, fast food eaters, exotic animal buyers, pharma weight loss users, etc Yet many different groups stigmatize customers of those industries while still supporting basic human and workers rights for the employees. I don’t see how that’s different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:05 PM
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Am I allowed to demand respect, workers rights, and safety for people who work in fast food or ultra processed food factories, while still stigmatizing and suggest we heavily regulate the consumption and sale of it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 12:52 PM
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Yes you are crazy. You should not feel like killing people who push you. Abusers and killers never feel they are in the wrong. Their excuse is always “but they made me do it”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:55 PM
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So cheating is illegal in 16 US states (https://www.newsweek.com/map-shows-16-states-where-its-illegal-cheat-your-wife-1887307) Severity is more important than whether it is illegal or not. Would you rather there was a line in a law that says it’s illegal with no enforceable punishment, or it wasn’t actually in law but it led to divorce that is favouring the victim (what happens in practice)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:41 PM
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Isn’t cheating already illegal? Adultery is already illegal in most countries, even some states in the US. And even in western liberal countries where it’s less likely to be illegal, it is always grounds for divorce, as it’s considered a violation of contract as you argue. And those divorces tend to overwhelmingly be in favor of the one who got cheated. So what is it you would like to happen? More severe punishments for cheating? And if so how severe?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:14 PM
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Only if slavery is more conducive to better survival and reproduction. I, for one, believe liberty and individual freedom is worth fighting for. But if we cannot find a version that survives or reproduces better than slavery, we’ll be forgotten or a footnote in the history books of a version that hopefully does, or worse, does it with slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:01 AM
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Sex is necessary to procreate. Why do you want water? To survive. Why do you want to survive? To procreate. Happy to be proven wrong on this above,
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:57 PM
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It does require consent of the water source owner
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:18 PM
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Over the long run natural selection will favor whichever is best at surviving and reproducing. I'd love to hear some arguments as to why limiting sexual access will be the better or more "worth continuing" system.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:15 PM
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But people can have ownership over water sources. Ranging from a country’s ownership of a river (putting up dams or routing water to prevent countries downstream to get access), to a community’s ownership of historical land with a lake (and preventing people access) or to an individual’s water rights to a spring. The above water rights are highly controversial but exists. The way I understand the argument is that individual human agency trumps all. This is why forcing women to do anything to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:27 AM
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Would you say the same for water? That the people or institutions who own clean water sources are not trying to control other people. They just want to control their water sources by being left alone. You might say water is a biological survival necessity and should be shared. But sexual access is a survival necessity for the gene pool and has been biologically imprinted as such. Is it up individuals to secure their own clean water sources as “the world” doesn’t owe them any? I don’t disagree bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:49 AM
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What about companionship, family, partner or life witness?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:17 AM
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You become a wholesome person and go for real love. Loving committed relationships still exists today and most women look for that. But I can promise you that wholesome loving women do not go for guys who describe women as “run through by chads”. Of course if you are not looking for a loving committed relationship and just want to be a chad and fuck women on rotation, disregard this advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:46 AM
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Pew Research More women than men on dating apps, and the ones who are on there report having a worse time than men on average. Even assuming that women go for the same small pool of men (which marriage data wouldn’t necessarily support), wouldn’t it be more logical to place blame on that small pool of men for why dating sucks for average men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:54 PM
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If we follow your logic “men” don’t struggle to get attention of women since a more attractive man did match with them. For every struggling man there was another man who didn’t struggle. What you’re describing is that there are more men on the dating market than women, which data would agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:49 AM
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You’ve chosen to define average based on what you consider dateable rather than statistics. Do you have any data to back your claim? It's perfectly fine, if what you define is what you consider worthy of love. But if you are going to use the term average, you should at least back it up with some data. Even if every one of your bullet points are straight in the middle of a bell curve (unlikely), the intersection between them is likely to be far off average.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 10:49 AM
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Why does it make more sense to place blame on women? Wouldn’t it make a lot more sense to blame the 5% of men who are having all the sex? It’s a lot less people you’d need to convince and it’s a more homogenous group than 60% something women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:21 PM
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Nothing is stopping you from getting chemically castrated
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:40 AM
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That seems fairly fixable, and I think a lot has been done the past few decades in putting women in the workforce, even in traditionally men dominated fields. I’m not saying that we’re there yet, but if women partake in the workforce equally to men, would you say women no longer want or need men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:05 AM
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I agree with the want part. What makes you conclude that women need men and not the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:08 AM
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Is the conclusion here that men need women more than the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:22 AM
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If most guys had given up dating, women wouldn’t have the options you speak of
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:45 AM
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Are you saying that women are rich in this case and many women simply choose to not be rich, explaining the gender discrepancy in online dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 11:30 AM
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I’d agree that women have better options than apps than men. But does that not mean that apps are to the benefit of men who do not have as many options? If dating apps presents as the only or primary option for most men but the tertiary option for women, it’d seem that men have the most to gain from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 11:22 AM
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So dating apps don’t really benefit women at all is what you’re saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 11:12 AM
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I’m just trying to understand the logic that explains why more men are on the apps. You are saying that there are less women on the apps because they met boyfriends there. So do the boyfriends keep their tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 11:08 AM
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If she finds a relationship on the app, does that not also subtract a guy from the app?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 11:02 AM
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Does the guy who met two women in your scenario also delete the app, or does he stay on the app and continue to make women delete their apps? Do the women he meet ever join again?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 10:53 AM
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But wouldn’t the woman who find a relationship on the app also take a guy away from the app?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 10:46 AM
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If a woman finds a boyfriend on the app, doesn’t that also subtract a man from the app?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 10:42 AM
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If I am overstating the benefit to men, and you still believe that women stand to benefit a lot more from apps; Would you say given the few women who are on apps, women are making a mistake by not using apps more to gain all the benefits they can have?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 10:39 AM
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If apps are to the benefit of women due to large amount of men there, would you say that women are making a mistake by not being on apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 10:24 AM
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If apps are to the benefit of women, but very few women use them. Do you think more women are making a mistake, and many more should start to use them so they can take advantage of it? Or do you think many women are already taking advantage of it now?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 10:22 AM
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Are apps then to the benefit of women? And if they are, why are so few eligible women on there? I understand why men are on dating apps. It is a place with single women, even if there are few of them. So it offers value to men. But I’d argue that dating apps do not provide any value to women, that is why very few women go there. So dating apps are largely to the benefit of men as they provide men with value and not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:32 AM
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I buy that narrative. But does that not mean that dating apps benefit men and not women? Because dating apps seem to offer something that men want (a place with some single women), but not what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:22 AM
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I agree that women do the choosing in online dating. But if you’re argument is that men cannot approach women anywhere except for apps, are apps not to the benefit men? I agree that the few women on apps will get validation, but the data would suggest many more men want to approach women than women want validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:16 AM
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I’m sorry if that wasn’t clear from the post. A narrative men have here is that dating apps have tipped the scales enormously towards women. And that women benefit a lot more from online dating than men. I find that contradictory to the evidence that most online dating users are men. As I would expect women to flock to online dating if they benefit as much as men claim they do. I therefore think men benefit the most from online dating. Whether it is easier to handle rejection, path of least resi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:08 AM
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If real life is the baseline where women do nothing, would you not say that dating apps then benefit men more than women? Since online dating requires the women to do more than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:57 AM
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Do we agree then that dating apps are to the benefit of men, as men do not have any options outside apps and now they have one? Clearly women are not benefitting from it if most of their options are outside of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:50 AM
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Okay, so apps are actually benefitting men and not women, since men need the apps and women do not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:47 AM
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Can you elaborate on why that is the reason more women are not joining dating apps when they have more to gain than men? I don’t think women are grouping together and boycotting dating apps to maintain market control.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:03 AM
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If you believe it is just a supply and demand issue, would market forces not correct it and we should expect many more women to join dating apps soon?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:58 AM
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So what you are saying would suggest men stand to benefit the most from dating apps. Because it’s easy and convenient and a huge buffer for rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:57 AM
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I don’t really think that’s analogous. Men claim that women stand to benefit much more from dating apps than women. If that is the case, we should expect many more women to be on dating apps or at least start to join them. Are you saying that women are just choosing to “stay poor” by not joining them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:56 AM
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If they favor women, why do we not see many more women than men on dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:53 AM
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Inherent in my question is the consequence of that. If women stand to benefit so much from dating apps as men claim, would we not expect many more women to start joining dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:51 AM
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So would you say dating apps favour men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:36 AM
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I don’t think OP disagrees with that. But where does the burden of responsibility lie? Many make posters here tend to say it’s unfair and favouring women so they should do “something”. But the argument here is that it’s a male created problem so men should do “something”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 11:00 PM
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The author's main point is that PUA skills are a "coping strategy" and that the real approach men should take is not to validate women's behaviour which is making seduction skills necessary. The art of pick up, is essentially a pragmatic field. We do what works, not what's right. For the author it may be morally wrong that women are allowed to ascend the social ladder they have, but that is extremely biased. It is a social evolution caused by the sharp increase in population. Without going too m…
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