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17

I’ve long said that women are like cats: if you try and chase them, they’ll run away. You gotta be chill, play it cool, and do your own thing; if they’re interested, they’ll come around to see what’s up. When they do, let them be involved but don’t let them shift your entire focus.
/r/seduction29/09/25 09:22 PM
11

Hinge is for people who are actually looking for relationships. Bumble is just a game for women to boost their self esteem. Tinder is full of bots and people trying to promote themselves.
/r/seduction11/06/25 08:18 PM
9

You blew a good moment but the chance isn’t dead and buried. Might as well go back and try to ask her out, the worst that could happen is the exact same thing that’ll happen if you don’t try in the first place.
/r/seduction11/04/24 11:07 PM
3

You are reading way too much into it and being overly sensitive. I’d get over that if I were you, unless you want to narrow down your dating prospects over arbitrary semantics. Good luck, and have a good one.
/r/seduction11/04/24 02:39 PM
8

not weird stuff Too late for that…
/r/seduction10/04/24 11:13 PM
5

I really think the more you ‘date for a relationship’ the more you shoot your self in the foot, and actually the less likely it is to happen. I never had more success with women than when I stopped trying to have success with women. There was a point in my life, around 30, where I no longer cared solely about getting laid, I understood the fundamentals of attraction, I knew what I wanted in a partner, but most importantly, I was perfectly content being single because I loved my life and I didn’t…
/r/seduction27/03/24 10:22 PM
28

Yup that is me. Got married last year (I’m 36). When I was younger dating/attraction/seduction skills helped me to get laid. When I got older, and was over “trying to get laid”, they helped me find an amazing partner. Casual hookups are fun, but once you’ve had dozens of them, they lose their luster. Plus, dating is just becoming really shitty, particularly with the increasing reliance on dating apps. It’s time consuming, repetitive, exhausting and expensive. Very glad to be done with all that, …
/r/seduction27/03/24 10:11 PM
3

I’m in my 30’s. Happily married, so not doing approaches or looking for advice anymore. Occasionally I’ll chime in with some of my own advice or perspectives, just doing what I can to help out young guys still in the game.
/r/seduction18/03/24 03:15 PM
6

Lol talk about splitting hairs. “I’m just trying to approach teenage girls to seduce them, I’m not seeking them out!” The fact that you see a difference between the two is one hell of an admission.
/r/seduction07/09/22 01:22 PM
1

“How do I approach…” Sounds like you’re seeking them out. Teenagers are stupid and immature. Even if you’re only 5-6 years older, why would you want to hang out with someone that young?
/r/seduction07/09/22 01:17 PM
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Or just “teenager who really wants to believe that they’re a full grown adult” vibes.
/r/seduction07/09/22 01:13 PM
3

Not borderline- they are children. Especially in today’s society, when people don’t need to grow up until they’re in their late 20’s.
/r/seduction07/09/22 01:11 PM
17

Too stuffy and formal. Just casually accept it and move on, like you aren’t phased in the least or like you weren’t even thinking about it in the first place.
/r/seduction11/07/22 08:28 PM
2

Also don’t listen to dating advice from teenagers whose strategy is to manipulate other insecure teenagers.
/r/seduction08/07/22 04:53 AM
1

That’s not something to be proud of.
/r/seduction08/07/22 04:51 AM
1

Well, that’s how it happens in the movies… do you mean to say that real life isn’t like rom-coms?
/r/seduction28/06/22 09:09 PM
1

Doing great, life is good. No. You can’t be. If it’s possible for her to lose all interest in you in one week between dates, then she was never that into you and it was always going to be an uphill battle that probably wasn’t going to amount to anything anyway. Be thankful, those types weed themselves out early, saving you time and money. Don’t worry, there will always be more. Don’t have what they call a scarcity mindset.
/r/seduction29/04/22 03:29 AM
1

Sure. Date frequency is just one small piece of it, and it ties into my larger point about letting the woman set the pace of a relationship. So like I said, when you are first starting out, schedule at most one date per week. When her attraction increases to a point where she wants to see you more than that, she’ll bring it up. For example, if you have a date set for Friday/Saturday, she might mention doing something together Tuesday or Wednesday; or she might suggest doing something a day or tw…
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:01 PM
1

Shave? Never. Trim? Once a month, ideally.
/r/seduction09/03/22 04:33 PM
5

What's interesting is how did he seduce Grande. By swooping in after her ex died?
/r/seduction18/02/22 07:47 PM
11

No this is very immature.
/r/seduction26/01/22 04:00 PM
4

That sounds exhausting.
/r/seduction27/08/21 07:22 PM
1

No. Asking why someone is taking so long long to reply, which is basically asking why they aren’t paying enough attention to you, is a giant neon billboard that says “I’M NEEDY AND INSECURE!”
/r/seduction30/07/21 12:34 PM
0

Watch out, we got a badass over here!
/r/seduction30/07/21 05:43 AM
1

Absolutely do not ask that. Easy way to come off as needy and demanding.
/r/seduction30/07/21 05:42 AM
1

It’s too late for this but you shouldn’t text her so much in between securing the date and the actual date. It does very little to increase her actual attraction to you, so you’re not gaining much from it. The amount of exposure is actually doing the opposite, you’re making yourself a “known quantity” and giving her less to wonder about. Not only that, you increasing the chances of her getting bored or you saying something stupid. The phrase “absence makes the heart grow fonder” is absolutely tr…
/r/seduction30/07/21 05:41 AM
2

I get how it’s easy to fool yourself into thinking they’re into and you just need to figure out to code to crack the barriers they’re throwing up, but it ain’t like that. If a chick is into you, it’s really obvious and they make it really easy.
/r/seduction14/07/21 12:01 AM
1

Dude if you’re trying to sound like an “alpha male” it’s not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 09:27 PM
1

Is this what mansplaining is? You assume incorrectly, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 09:12 PM
14

What a stupid and condescending response.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 03:08 PM
1

You are on the wrong track dude.
/r/seduction20/03/21 03:42 AM
1

Good luck.
/r/seduction19/03/21 01:16 AM
1

If she already knows, then yeah, as joke I get it. That’s not bad. However, given that she does know you live with your parents, it means she already knows that the most logical place to fool around is her home. And since you’ve already been flirting and crossed the sexual barrier, conversationally, she’s no doubt already thought about this. What I would do is escalate and get to a point where you’re making out before the end of the date. If she wants to go further, she will invite you to contin…
/r/seduction19/03/21 12:56 AM
2

Clever, but if/when she finds out those “roommates” are his parents, could cause more trouble than it’s worth. I would only use this if living with the parents is a very temporary situation.
/r/seduction18/03/21 09:34 PM
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This is the reason. She had something “better” in the works, but it fell through. No reason you can’t still go on your date and try to get laid, but just know that she only sees you as a way to kill time when she doesn’t have “real” dates in her calendar. Definitely don’t pay for her dinner.
/r/seduction18/03/21 09:22 PM
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Exactly. You get it. A lot of “seduction gurus” and “pickup artists” teach all kinds of strategies and gimmicks for faking a carefree, “take it or leave it” attitude. But all they’re doing is teaching you how to put up a front. But if there’s nothing behind it, she’ll eventually see through you, no matter how good your “game” is. Ironically, that very attitude they are trying to fake is a natural byproduct of making your life revolve around yourself and being your own source of happiness and joy…
/r/seduction08/03/21 07:23 PM
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Great post. And the great (and counterintuitive) thing about this is, shifting your focus away from women and towards yourself will actually improve your game with women. To any guy who doesn’t understand this advice and is doubting it, I promise you: the single most attractive thing any guy can learn is how to be happy alone and without the validation of others. Those are the kinds of people everyone wishes they could be, male or female, and it is exceedingly sexy.
/r/seduction08/03/21 01:44 PM
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I have no idea how those got to the top - believing your entire existence can subsist on the validation provided by another person is really unhealthy. A lot of guys do fall into that trap, and they want to validate and reinforce each other and the lifestyles they’ve chosen.
/r/seduction08/03/21 01:39 PM
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Have a nice day dude.
/r/seduction27/02/21 06:19 AM
3

You’re right, you don’t know me, so spare me the armchair psychoanalysis. But kudos for sticking up for Mr. “I have lots of sex with lots of different women”.
/r/seduction27/02/21 05:14 AM
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It’s weird, isn’t it? I guess it hit a little close to home for some. When it comes to seduction, there’s an indefinitely long “fake it till you make it” phase, and I don’t think you can truly “make it” until you’ve realized this truth. If there’s one trait you could develop that makes you instantly more attractive, it’s learning how to be happy by yourself.
/r/seduction27/02/21 04:46 AM
1

Like I said in a previous comment, I wasn’t trying to get into a deep philosophical debate about happiness. My point from the beginning is that if women are the thing that make you “truly happy” then a) that’s going to run out at some point, and b) that’s an unfair expectation to put on your partner. I stand by both of those statements. And if you read any of my other comments, you’ll recall I said that when you find happiness within yourself that will only enhance your enjoyment of those other …
/r/seduction27/02/21 03:03 AM
2

I’m taking the piss with this guy because he’s been nothing but a dick since his first comment. He didn’t offer an opinion or give any advice- he argued against a point I never made, and then bragged about how much he’s getting laid. And was a smug douche in the process. You don’t need to worry about my happiness but thanks anyway. Edit: And you know what three divorces tells me? It says hasn’t learned a damn thing, and is the last person who should be giving out relationship advice.
/r/seduction27/02/21 02:57 AM
2

Let’s see. You’re almost 50, thrice divorced and getting more pussy than ever. You’re a strong, independent man and you don’t answer to no woman. Life is good. You even slept with a girl 20 years younger than you. That about sum it up?
/r/seduction27/02/21 02:02 AM
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I read it. Don’t flatter yourself into thinking it was anything special.
/r/seduction27/02/21 01:32 AM
7

Well for someone who’s almost 50, the obvious point I was making flew right over your head. And with the maturity of someone less than half your age, you decided to come at we with that stupid attack and brag about how much you’re getting laid. Bravo. No one cares. My point was not that once you get to a certain age, your success with women stops. I’m 34, I have a great girlfriend, and before I got into this relationship my dating and sex life was better than it ever was in my 20’s. My point is …
/r/seduction26/02/21 11:29 PM
2

That was my original point, and you’re the one who started arguing with me about it. We’ve come full circle.
/r/seduction26/02/21 11:09 PM
7

Like I said- having success with women is not like winning championships or MVP awards. And pro athletes suffering depression after retirement is a documented phenomenon, so I don’t why you’re still going on with the sports analogy. If you are the kind of guy who needs dates and sex and compliments from women in order to be happy, then once you settle down, your wife is going to become the sole source of your happiness. That’s an unfair expectation you are placing on her. Think about if the role…
/r/seduction26/02/21 10:28 PM
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You absolutely can and should enjoy that. That’s one of the wonderful parts about life. But if that’s the reason you are happy, you’ll need to be continually having that meter filled up, or you revert back to being unhappy. Find happiness within, and it will never run dry, and it will only enhance your enjoyment of those other things.
/r/seduction26/02/21 09:48 PM
12

Bad analogy. Dates and sexual conquests are not like winning the super bowl. Show me a dude who stopped having success with women once they got past their mid-twenties, but remained content to reminisce about those glory days for the rest of their life. As for athletes, a lot of them do go through depression when they retire. The one thing they’ve worked for their entire lives is gone, and the need to reorient their lives. I don’t think this is really the time or place to get into a philosophica…
/r/seduction26/02/21 09:30 PM
231

So what happens when you stop getting compliments, or go on a dry streak? Do you go back to being unhappy? Nothing wrong being feeling good about your success with women, but they shouldn’t be the source of your happiness. Because once you get into a relationship with someone, expecting them to constantly be providing you with feel-goods so that you stay “happy” is going to put too much strain on your partner and on the relationship.
/r/seduction26/02/21 05:05 PM
4

Being nice is simply not a quality that will endear you to women. At least not romantically/sexually.
/r/seduction10/02/21 10:42 PM
1

Why are you looking for logic in other people’s feelings? May as well look for a unicorn while you’re at it. Most people tend to look at themselves as “average”, regardless of where they fall on the bell curve. Normal. Not worthy of special treatment. But even believing you are just average, you still know that inherently means there are people who are below average. And nobody wants to settle for someone less attractive than them. Everyone wants to make a lateral move, or trade up. But value, l…
/r/seduction20/04/20 10:07 PM
1

It’s all relative. They aren’t acting like their looks enhance their value; they’re acting like your looks detract from yours. It’s a subtle difference, and probably a meaningless distinction from your point of view.
/r/seduction20/04/20 08:07 PM
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They know their looks entitle them to be picky in choosing who they’ll date, but they still want to be seen as humble and treated as though looks aren’t a factor. It’s not that much of a double standard if you think about. It’s basically saying, in other words: “Below-average looks detract from a person’s value, but above-average looks shouldn’t enhance a person’s value.
/r/seduction20/04/20 04:04 PM
3

I would know, I am one. Was that just thrown in for irony?
/r/seduction24/03/19 11:44 PM
2

Hey there. So, after telling “volleyball girl” that it was too soon to be in a relationship, I went on a few more dates with the other one but ultimately ended it- it didn’t feel right to be sleeping with two woman who both wanted a relationship, and I found that volleyball girl was the one that I was thinking about when we weren’t together; not the other one. About a month after that, she again asked to be exclusive and I agreed. I wasn’t dating anyone else anyway, and I wasn’t trying to. We ar…
/r/seduction21/11/18 10:07 PM
3

Making a chore out of cold approaching and devoting your life to it takes time away from other things you could be doing which directly bring happiness into your life, thereby making you the kind of guy th is naturally attractive to women.
/r/seduction20/08/18 09:44 PM
5

we are afraid of them I dunno about that... Are you a woman?
/r/seduction15/08/18 03:20 AM
2

I agree that it’s absolutely fucking stupid that calling on the phone is considered “creepy”... but that’s how millennial-aged women think (and obviously that mentality only increases the younger you get). So us “old school” fucks just have to adapt to the times. That doesn’t mean communicate via memes or instagram or any other “trendy” shit this other kid is talking about, but we have to accept that rare is the occasion that a young woman will pick up the phone (without a predetermined arrangem…
/r/seduction15/08/18 03:09 AM
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Really curious how old OP is and how old are the women he’s calling are... I used to call all the time. For the same reasons: “oh it speaks volumes about your confidence, it really sets you apart from all the other guys who only text...” And above all, it’s just what I was used to, it’s how I grew up- calling people to make plans. (I’m 31, for reference). But people these days don’t answer their phones anymore. It’s like you need to have a predetermined arrangement to talk on the phone. I’m not …
/r/seduction15/08/18 02:57 AM
1

Hm. This has given me a lot to think about, l’m really appreciating your perspective here. Truly. To answer your last question first: from our first date to the time she ended things with me was a only a month and a half. Not a long time, I know, but we had a longer history. We first met when we were in high school on a spring break vacation (for context, I’m 31 now). Then, unbeknownst to both of us, we ended up going to the same college and met again there (although she ended up transferring to…
/r/seduction10/08/18 07:32 PM
1

When I said “perfect match”, I’m using the word for the sake of brevity, because it’s easier than saying “it was as close to “perfect” as you can get with imperfect people in an imperfect world. I was aware of her flaws and found them tolerable”. I only mean that, in the time that we were together, she had everything I was looking for. Totally my equal on every level, she was like a mirror image of me. Like meeting myself in a woman’s body. It’s really cool being with someone you just instantly …
/r/seduction09/08/18 04:49 PM
2

You’re right - but I never deluded myself into thinking she was perfect or the match was perfect; just that it was as close to “perfect” as you can get with imperfect people in an imperfect world. I was aware of her flaws (or at least some of them) and found them either tolerable or even endearing. She said she felt the same way about me (even said “You’re the perfect guy for me” once) but obviously that feeling didn’t last. But we kept in touch the whole time she was traveling, and the fact tha…
/r/seduction08/08/18 10:51 PM
1

Everything you’re responding to in 3-6 was said by someone else, not me. And that it “made no sense” was the nicest thing I could say about it. It made so little sense that I gave him the benefit of the doubt and assumed he meant something different than what he seemed to be saying. Because what he said is dogshit, it’s so wrong it’s offensive.
/r/seduction08/08/18 02:00 PM
1

1. How is having and canceling dates with other people “baggage”? Maybe our definitions of baggage differ, but being single and dating multiple people is perfectly normal. And I think the process of cutting off contact with others as things become more serious with one is normal too. So I don’t know how that’s considered baggage, especially in this sub of all places. .2. I know the last relationship wasn’t “perfect”. I know she wasn’t perfect. I’m just saying that those rare “unicorn” type of wo…
/r/seduction08/08/18 12:49 PM
1

Because it is ultimately women who do the choosing. You have to know that, as a man, you can never convince a woman to want to be in a relationship with you. If she likes you enough, she will convince herself, and then she will bring it up. If she hasn’t brought it up, it’s because she’s not ready for that. So if you bring up serious relationship talk before she’s ready to consider a serious relationship, you give off a needy/desperate vibe which is obviously a turnoff. Are there exception to th…
/r/seduction07/08/18 04:16 PM
1

I wish it were that simple... She was the one who ended things. She was the one who blew me off when we had plans to see each other before she left. We kept in contact while she was traveling and she knows how much she means to me. I always said that I hoped our paths would cross again one day. When she told me she was back in the country, I told her how much I’d like to see her, and even offered to let her stay at my place (she’s currently with her parents a couple hours away) - that was about …
/r/seduction07/08/18 02:49 PM
2

Maybe I was unclear, but I’m not talking about getting married now. Just talking being in an exclusive relationship. Anyway, your third point cut pretty deep... hit me over the head hard with things I’ve been dancing around with internally for months now. This has definitely been true for a lot of women I dated in the past year, and I recognized it and I cut them loose. This is the first time since then that I’ve been able to actually see myself getting serious with someone else. But you’re righ…
/r/seduction07/08/18 02:32 PM
1

Solid advice. This most closely resembles what I am feeling about it as well. Thanks, it always helps to hear it from someone else.
/r/seduction07/08/18 01:24 PM
1

First of all, thanks for taking the time to respond, it’s given me a lot to think about. You can choose to keep dating other women, but if a particular girl is really awesome, then *you won't want to Well I have canceled several dates with others since I’ve started seeing this one, and when other dates have flaked I didn’t care and was actually relieved. I’ve deleted several dating apps as well (thought not all). So I’m kind of whittling down the potentials, and slowly shutting to door to new po…
/r/seduction07/08/18 12:56 PM
2

The questions you have to ask yourself, and dig deep inside, is that 10-20% trait she's missing a deal breaker? That’s a good question to ask, I will have to think about it. Is she the first 80-90% match you've dated? No, the person I mentioned who crushed me when things didn’t work out was pretty much a 100% match. The one I’m seeing now is the closest to that level of compatibility I’ve ever met though, which includes my ex of 4 years (I was a different person when I got into that relationship…
/r/seduction07/08/18 12:00 PM
1

Until a couple years ago, I would have agreed with you. But I was with my “dream girl” for a time. And if I wrote down the traits I’m looking for in a partner, it would just be like I was writing down the traits that describe her. I know how rare it is, it took 30 years to meet anyone like that, so if you never have and you doubt it, then I totally understand that. But without going into details, it was a life changing experience for me.
/r/seduction07/08/18 11:37 AM
2

I get what you’re saying but I have to disagree in a couple points. 1) I’m not looking for a “perfect match” to be happy. I’m already happy. I’ve already learned that I don’t need anyone to be happy other than myself. I want to find someone as awesome as I am, share our happiness with each other and just have an epic life together. 2) I would not always be looking for someone better. I know that because I’ve already dated someone who was that “perfect match”, and I had no desire look for someone…
/r/seduction07/08/18 02:45 AM
1

That’s kind of what I’m feeling at the moment. It’s just weird to be at this point after only a few weeks, it goes against everything I’ve learned since I became someone who doesn’t suck with women.
/r/seduction07/08/18 01:36 AM
1

I’m sure I can put off exclusivity for a while, but it’s like racing against a machine, sooner or later it will catch up to me. The only reason you are questioning it is because you don't want to give up all women for one girl. You’re pretty close to the mark with that. It’s not that I don’t want to give up all women for this one, it’s that I don’t want to give up the possibility of finding another one who is a “perfect” match for me. And I know what that’s like, because I’ve experienced it befo…
/r/seduction07/08/18 01:34 AM
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Part of me agrees with you; it says “Just throw caution to the wind and dive in.” But it’s the same foolish part of me that said the same thing a year and a half ago, when I fell for someone hard but things didn’t work out. So that makes me hesitant and unwilling to trust myself. But I think what I’m most afraid of is the opportunity cost- that I could be missing out on the best possible match for me if I stop dating different people. And I know that a better match is possible, because I’ve expe…
/r/seduction07/08/18 01:27 AM
5

Besides, I’m at work and I just took a dump, I have to wait a few more hours before I can go back in to a stall to watch a video.
/r/seduction16/05/18 11:58 AM
1

Maybe... sort of. It comes with more rejections. Because when you get rejected dozens and hundreds of times, what is one more really? But more importantly that that is how happy you are with yourself and your own life. When you are your own source of happiness, and the life you are living provides with the excitement and fulfillment that everyone craves but many are dependent on a partner to gain, then you don’t need women to feel that way. Love yourself. Learn to be happy by yourself. Love the …
/r/seduction21/03/18 11:10 PM
5

When you indicate that you love excessively, or at least more than her, then you trigger doubt. Because she doubts herself, remember? She’s insecure. And if you love someone like her that much then you can’t be all you’re cracked up to be, surely? Here’s your problem. Dating insecure women who don’t have an abundance of self-love. And you know how guys can be insecure, but then they invest in self improvement, building confidence, etc, and eliminating those insecurities? Well, women can do the s…
/r/seduction13/02/18 08:01 PM
13

That guy was just plain obnoxious, plus it took him way too long to get to the fucking point. I don’t care what food he ordered! Not gonna want to 7 minute video with 5 minutes of irrelevant bullshit.
/r/seduction23/01/18 06:03 PM
1

She said she would text you when she’s free. She hasn’t yet. So she’s either still busy or she forgot. It’s good that you waited (would have come across as desperate if you hadn’t), but since it’s been 10 days now, it’s probably okay to retake the initiative.
/r/seduction23/01/18 03:56 PM
2

The ebook is $10. Just buy it.
/r/seduction23/01/18 03:51 PM
3

Do whatever the fuck you want and pay no attention to what other people are doing or what they think about what you’re doing. Piece of cake.
/r/seduction22/01/18 07:28 PM
-7

Yeah, the part where he went out and did something to better himself. Not the part where he cries his eyes out to a friend because his date flaked... Edit: lol, just looking at all the comments in this thread that got downvoted vs the ones that got upvoted... it reminds me not to be so annoyed when women complain that “men aren’t men anymore”...
/r/seduction22/01/18 07:18 PM
8

Not much to recover from - you broke up with your gf, it’s been a few months since you were with someone... so what? That’s perfectly natural; I think you’re overanalyzing the situation. Don’t dwell on it, there’s no need to bring it up again. That would probably do more harm than good.
/r/seduction18/01/18 06:14 PM
5

I don’t, because they most likely will ignore it, and even if they don’t the probably won’t tell the truth anyway. Just move on.
/r/seduction18/01/18 06:02 PM
2

Sounds you are doing the right things and are on the right trajectory. All you need now is just more experience, and by that I mean more rejections. The more times you get rejected, the easier it is to just let go... once you stop caring so much about any one particular girl, the easier it becomes to allow them to come in and out of your life as they choose - which is what they want all along. Your indifference towards them is sexy.
/r/seduction05/01/18 09:16 PM
1

No, it’s not. This is terrible advice and will only serve to push her away. Don’t do it. /u/BestSC86 has the correct advice. Read it, because he is spot on. “The talk” is not going to go the way you think it’s going to go. It will backfire, you will lose control of your emotions and your ability to see the situation with clarity, and you will make mistakes which you will regret. Don’t tell her you like her. That should be obvious enough from the way you act around her. Which I’m guessing is your…
/r/seduction05/01/18 06:53 PM
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Well, my friend, I know because I’ve been there before... lol. Probably every guy deals with this before they put in the work to eliminate their neediness, insecurity and lack of confidence. Sorry if saying that offends you, but truthfully, those underlying issues are where those feelings stem from. I’m gonna guess that when you text her, you’re sitting around at home, watching tv or playing video games or something, right? When that’s all you have going on, you can’t help but count the minutes …
/r/seduction05/01/18 06:35 PM
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Get over the fact that it’s taking her a while to respond. A few hours is nothing - people get busy, you know? It happens, it’s no big deal. So it could just be that... It could also be that she’s testing you. A lot of guys freak out and come completely unglued if a girl doesn’t text back in the arbitrary amount of time they deem acceptable. Which is a sign of neediness. So women will intentionally delay their responses to test your composure. Outwardly (what is visible to her), you seem to be d…
/r/seduction05/01/18 05:35 PM
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What type of info? Number of partners? Experience with anal sex, threesomes, kinky shit, etc?Condom use / STD’s? Name’s and phone numbers?
/r/seduction06/12/17 06:06 PM
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She started dating YOU because of who YOU are. So just keep being exactly that guy that you were throughout the dating phase. It’s the easiest thing in the world. The worst thing you could do is start trying act like someone different. That’s not authentic, and she’ll smell the phoniness a mile away. And putting on an act like that is a sign of insecurity, a lack of confidence that you are good enough. Similarly, you can’t get lazy and complacent either. Don’t think “She’s committed to me now, s…
/r/seduction30/11/17 11:22 PM
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How this mythology of "Defending yourself is insecure" shit started is beyond me. Defending yourself is one thing; getting defensive and becoming confrontational is something else. You were the latter. I’m sure you can see the difference. Sleeping with other women while you're in a LTR is irrelevant. Men can fuck lots of women on the side and love their LTR. If women cheat, they don't respect their man. First of all, cheating while you’re in a LTR is absolutely relevant, whether you’re a man a w…
/r/seduction30/11/17 09:44 PM
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Dude you get way too defensive when people do anything other than agree with you wholeheartedly. I don’t know how you can be as successful with women as you claim to be if you get this bent out of shape when strangers disagree with you on the internet. Reeks of insecurity, in my opinion. First of all, your post is titled “What traits should you look for in a girlfriend” - that’s great you know what you look for, but sorry to say, I don’t give a fuck about your criteria. Understand that your crit…
/r/seduction30/11/17 08:29 PM
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Nate Dogg’s got some good advice for you: Getcha ass of the wall with your two left feet It's real easy just follow the beat Don't let that fine girl pass you by Look real close cause strobe lights lie
/r/seduction30/11/17 07:23 PM
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That’s great that you have your own standards, and your own list of what you’re looking for. I recommend everyone develop their own list. But this particular list is entirely unique to you - for me, smoking pot is a green flag and no partying is a red flag. That’s just a reflection of who I am and what I’m looking for. Also, the more rigidly you stick to hierarchical structures, the more likely you are to miss out on some really great women, and perhaps end up with someone who isn’t right just b…
/r/seduction30/11/17 07:15 PM
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If it was a 2 week vacation, I wouldn’t text her at all - you should be enjoying your time. But since it’s for work, I wouldn’t change my behavior significantly. Since you’re not going to be planning an imminent date, there’s not much of a reason to text her at all - but if there’s something noteworthy to text her about, go ahead. But don’t text her for no reason just for the sake of reminding her that you exist, or because you’re afraid things are going to “cool off” or whatever.
/r/seduction29/11/17 11:42 PM
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You’re thinking about what kind of underwear she’s wearing. Chances are, they’re your standard white, cotton panties... but maybe they’re silk... maybe it’s a thong... maybe it’s something really cool that you don’t even know about.
/r/seduction29/11/17 11:33 PM
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They want to have their cake and eat it too: They like the special treatment they get from you when you see them as a romantic option, but don’t want to feel obligated to give you any of that special treatment in return.
/r/seduction21/11/17 09:51 PM
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solipsistic Wow, great word, but unfortunate that it perfectly describes so many women I’ve dated.
/r/seduction21/11/17 09:46 PM
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There’s very little you need to do. Wait a week or so (or however long it’s going to take her to clear up her schedule), then plan something else. Don’t get hung out on what already happened and don’t over-pursue or appear over-eager to see her again. Just keep doing your thing and hanging out with other chicks in the meantime.
/r/seduction16/11/17 09:02 PM
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FYI - if she hasn’t agreed to a definite time/date, she hasn’t agreed to anything. If all you ask is “want to hang out sometime?” without detailing anything specific, most women will just say ‘yes’ regardless of whether not they actually want to. It’s easier just to say yes, send you on your way, and then ignore all future attempts to plan something than it is to be honest and risk you causing drama if you don’t handle the rejection well.
/r/seduction16/11/17 07:28 PM
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Not sure what then implication or the point of this is...
/r/seduction10/11/17 09:35 PM
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I just started to message girls who I dont know on facebook That’s weird. Stop doing that.
/r/seduction09/11/17 05:48 PM
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This is in How to Win Friends and Influence People, isn’t it?
/r/seduction04/11/17 01:22 AM
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I count three but whatever... I wrote as much as I did because I’m thorough, and you’re making an argument I disagree with. So I was trying to explain to you why. But perhaps the nuance is lost on you. I could just have just said, “You’re wrong, there’s a bad/neutral way to phrase it, and there’s much better way to phrase it.” And just leave it at that. Which is what I’m going to do now.
/r/seduction03/11/17 09:22 PM
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Lol, could not agree more!
/r/seduction03/11/17 07:06 PM
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Bummer man. That’s life though. Learn from your mistakes and move on.
/r/seduction03/11/17 04:18 PM
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Come on man, use your head... She liked you enough that she didn’t want to take the chance of you not getting her number, so she went out of her way to give it to you? Of course that’s a good thing! If a girl really likes you, she’ll make it really easy. All you have to do is capitalize on the opportunity she’s serving up to you on a silver platter.
/r/seduction03/11/17 03:47 PM
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That’s not unusual, it’s easy to play it cool most of the time but when guys meet a girl that really rocks their world they tend to come unglued. Up to this point we’ve casually exchanged a few Snapchats throughout the day, but she’s stopped responding to some of them. That is a sign she’s losing interest. Take note. Are you saying I should not talk to her for a couple days and hit her up later this weekend / next week to see if she is up for meeting up again? Yes, pull back. Do not initiate con…
/r/seduction03/11/17 03:43 PM
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No, the act of asking for her number is not weak. But look at the phrasing: “Can I have your number?” Just the way it’s worded implies that she’s at a higher status than you are, like her number is a special gift that you have to ask her permission to be granted with. Think back to 3rd grade when you’d ask “Can I go to the bathroom?” What would your teacher say? “I don’t know, can you?” (Not suggesting that you replace “Can I” with “May I” when asking for a number). It’s like you’re not sure if …
/r/seduction03/11/17 01:06 PM
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Women tend to develop and figure out their feelings very slowly, so moving too quickly is a killer if you want this girl to stick around. If you move too fast, a) she’ll freak out and feel like she’s losing her freedom, so then she ejects, and b) it might give off the impression that you’re over-eager and desperate to lock her down into a relationship, which doesn’t reflect well on you and your “status” (a high value male with a lot of options generally isn’t going to be anxious to get into a co…
/r/seduction03/11/17 12:43 PM
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Well... kinda, yeah. How you say something is just as, if not more important than the words you say. And if a girl is really into you, it doesn’t matter what you say. But those situations are really obvious and it’s kinda hard to fuck them up. But that’s most of the time. Anyone who isn’t bullshitting will tell you that most of the time they’ll be on the fence about you, to a greater or lesser degree. And it’s it in these situations where phrasing something in a weak ass way like that might just…
/r/seduction03/11/17 05:28 AM
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This is so flawed I don’t even know where to begin. Maybe with the assumption that anything other than a quick, cheap date means you are a provider and therefore “a beta” who will never have sex with a girl before she bounces. There’s plenty of “event dates” you can do that are cheap, and in no way do they preclude you from getting laid at the end. In fact, traveling down the well-worn paths of “walk in the park” or “quick cup of coffee” is a surefire way to not stand out from all the other bori…
/r/seduction02/11/17 09:35 PM
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You’re totally right though, about how “Can I have your number?” is the WORST way to get a number. So yeah, you should frame it in a way where you are both benefitting from the number exchange. You just have to be fluid with the words you use in a given situation.
/r/seduction02/11/17 06:27 PM
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Hey kid, it’s not always easy to let go of someone you cared about, even if you have a lot of other options. You’re not abnormal. Sure having other women lined up will help to take your mind off things, but it’s definitely not a cure-all. And besides, there are other things you can do to take you mind off it just as well. Like one other commenter said, spend more time with good friends and family. These people were in your life before her, and they’ll be in your life after her. Also, take some t…
/r/seduction02/11/17 06:11 PM
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Easier said than done... Especially if there was equal investment at one point and they just started care less and less.
/r/seduction02/11/17 06:00 PM
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That’s good advice, but for the sake of beginners reading this, don’t try to have them believe that there’s just one foolproof phrase that will work in any situation.
/r/seduction02/11/17 05:56 PM
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Definitely. I used to use being tired and not “in the right mood” as an excuse not approach, and then one day this summer I decided I was not going to make that excuse anymore. I saw a beautiful girl at a concert on the 4th of July and wanted to try to get her number. This was the last night of a 4 day holiday weekend for me, and needless to say I was exhausted, both physically and mentally. But I forced myself to go up and talk to her anyway. After introducing myself, meeting her friends and ta…
/r/seduction02/11/17 05:51 PM
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Overthinking things is pretty typical, I tend to do it myself. Like the other guy said, it’s a pretty simple situation, no magic answers. One tip I have is don’t phrase it in a way that gives the impression of “You didn’t respond to my last text and now I’m afraid you’re gonna ditch me so I’m just texting you again to make sure!” So instead of something like “Hey, are we still on for tonight?” I’ll say something like “Hey, hope you had a good day, see you soon” If you hadn’t previously determine…
/r/seduction02/11/17 05:08 PM
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Hey man, you wanna think you got it in the bag, that her feelings can't and won't change on a dime, be my guest. If you want to do anything more than fuck her a few times before she gets bored because you're not a challenge and moves on to the next guy, you'll scare her right off with that shit.
/r/seduction02/11/17 12:10 AM
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I wait roughly a week to initiate another date. This allows time for her "digest" her feelings for you without being overwhelmed at how fast things are moving. It also allows her to wonder what you're doing, thus making you more mysterious to her. And lastly, it allows you time to do other important stuff. If she reaches out before you, it's because she's been thinking about you and probably wants to see you. So you can advance the next date then. Just be careful about moving too fast and scarin…
/r/seduction02/11/17 12:01 AM
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Terrible. Unless your aim is to appear over-eager and desperate.
/r/seduction01/11/17 11:54 PM
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If she was into you, she would not have cared that you were a customer.
/r/seduction30/10/17 08:12 PM
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Agreed - manipulating people is wrong. But nothing wrong with sleeping with someone you know you wouldn't date, unless you lie to them to do it.
/r/seduction30/10/17 06:34 PM
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Oh get off your high horse. Looks are important to everyone, men and women alike, but they are subjective. Everything has their own criteria for determining who they pursue and why.
/r/seduction30/10/17 05:28 PM
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After everything I've been taught between here and similar coaches, it's been to lock in the date and say absolutely nothing until then, unless it's logistical This is a misinterpretation. Don't be so rigid about rules - use common sense. You should not be texting her for anything other than logistics (surely there will be exceptions, so again, use commons sense). HOWEVER, if she texts you in between, then obviously answer - it's rude to ignore people. But don't get sucked into having long, draw…
/r/seduction30/10/17 04:23 PM
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It's kinda hard to give a template, but one way would just be to casually work it in when talking about what you did over the weekend, or what your upcoming plans are. And no, it's definitely not weird to give a girl a genuine compliment about her clothes.
/r/seduction30/10/17 03:22 PM
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It's fine if she does most of the talking. In fact, she should do most of the talking. You don't need to be a good talker, you need to be a good listener. Women love to talk. And everyone likes to talk about themselves. So ask her questions about herself, let her talk, and listen - don't just sit there and try to think of what to say next.
/r/seduction28/10/17 06:55 AM
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You go, Glen Coco.
/r/seduction27/10/17 09:52 PM
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The girls who potentially do that stuff hang out in the historical fiction section of Barnes & Noble. To approach, just go pick up a couple coffees (both for her- before and after) and say "Hey lady, you look like you're jonesing for a meat popsicle." 60% of the time it works, every time.
/r/seduction27/10/17 07:01 PM
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We very well could have been! Although I've been out of school for 8 years now haha. When you start this process, it can be a bit rocky, you might feel like a blank slate. But it gets easier. The more you know who you are, and the more you like who you are, the easier it is to always be authentic and genuine. When you think you're awesome, you have no reason to hide who your are from people. The best part is that this growth will benefit you in all aspects of your life, not just success with wom…
/r/seduction27/10/17 03:46 PM
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Well you need her phone number if things are ever going to progress past talking on Facebook... haha. But no that won't come off as needy, it'll have off as you knowing what you want and having the courage to ask for it. Think of something fun to do together, ask her if she wants to do it, and then get her #.
/r/seduction27/10/17 12:44 PM
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Well I love music - making kickass playlists, discovering new artists, going to concerts and I'm leaning how to play guitar. I'm a big sci fi & fantasy geek. I like doing things that give me an adrenaline rush, particularly snowboarding. I've traveled around the United States a lot and seen a lot of national parks (I also enjoy photography), now I want to make it a point in life to start traveling around internationally. I'm also a good writer and want to start honing my writing skills, maybe pu…
/r/seduction27/10/17 12:39 PM
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If you're at a place where people are dancing, and you got the space... sure why not.
/r/seduction27/10/17 12:18 PM
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Well if you can't answer any of those questions in my last post, you should definitely take some time for self reflection and figure it out. They are basic things you should know about yourself. Also think about your ideal self - what kind of person do you want to be? What are your goals? Knowing all these things about yourself and exemplifying them will help to make you a more interesting person. But it's also a matter of challenging yourself, trying new things, gaining experiences. And with al…
/r/seduction27/10/17 05:27 AM
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Figure out what's cool about yourself, and let it shine through. At the end of the day, it's the easiest thing to do - drop all pretenses and be exactly who you are. The trick is that you have to know who you are. It sounds cliche but it's true. What do you like and dislike, what are you good at, what motivates you, what are your thoughts an opinions and feelings on things, what makes you unique? No one can tell you that, you have to find out for yourself. It's a journey of self discovery, and e…
/r/seduction27/10/17 05:03 AM
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Oh they most definitely would. It's insecurity. They get terrified when they don't hear from a girl in x amount of time so they need to be reassured the she still likes them, because they are afraid they're not good enough. Get her phone number and ask her to hang out.
/r/seduction27/10/17 04:28 AM
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Women will sometimes intentionally not respond for hours or even days to test your composure. If you start getting irritated or fearful over her lack of response, you fail the test. Always play it cool and wait for her to respond. One time I was texting a girl back and forth trying to plan a date, and the last text I sent was just needing to get one last detail arranged. She abruptly stopped responding and then went 3 whole days without saying anything. I waited. She finally confirmed the day be…
/r/seduction26/10/17 10:16 PM
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Sounds like you already handled it in a good way! What are you asking our advice for??
/r/seduction26/10/17 10:09 PM
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Everything you've described here is 100% normal.
/r/seduction26/10/17 10:07 PM
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Could not agree with this more. You have no idea what's going to happen when you put yourself out into the world. You could have new experiences, make new friends, meet new women. Anything could happen. When you leave your confines, there are roughly 7.5 billion variables you cannot predict or account for; when you shut yourself in, there's only one variable - you. It's like sticking your hand in a mystery box to pull out a prize. Maybe you'll get something shitty, maybe you'll just come out wit…
/r/seduction25/10/17 01:58 PM
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It's funny, I thought of an answer before anyone else had responded, and it turned out the exact same thing as the other guy: "Something sexy."
/r/seduction24/10/17 06:25 PM
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Come on, man. Really? This is the kind of thing you really need to be able to figure out on your own. There's no right answer.
/r/seduction24/10/17 06:09 PM
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Look at her actions. Ignore her words. What do her actions say? (Rhetorical question, as it's blatantly obvious.)
/r/seduction24/10/17 02:54 PM
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Really depends on what's around you and what you like to do. Arcade bars are fun, if there are any near you. I like to invite girls out on a hike or to do pub trivia. I love live music so I do that a lot, but they're not conducive to getting to know someone so only do that if you already know each other semi well. Street fests are great, although summer is ending. Even went to a comic con with one girl. I try to be more creative than just food/drinks, but that's always a fallback option.
/r/seduction24/10/17 02:04 AM
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Does it "work"? I couldn't say it'll make something happen that wouldn't have happened otherwise... What I can say is that I can't remember ever having a girl agree to "hangout" but then change her mind upon finding out it was a date. I can also say that some have definitely appreciated me being clear that it was a date. I remember one girl (a bartender who was used to getting hit on by a lot of guys) specifically ask me if an invitation to meet up for drinks was a "date", and when I told her ye…
/r/seduction24/10/17 12:00 AM
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I have been showing far too much neediness Appearing needy is really easy to do when you text her all the freaking time. We have been texting every day, multiple times day in between dates. Surefire way to kill any aura of mystery surrounding you. And you increase the odds of you saying something that's going to turn her off and totally blow your chances. Sometimes all it takes is one wrong thing... I am going on a 5 day vacation starting tomorrow So enjoy your vacation and don't worry about tex…
/r/seduction23/10/17 10:19 PM
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This is good, I just want to add two things: 1) Don't be afraid to frame it as a date. In my experience, women respect when you have the courage to be direct and up-front about what you want, instead of pussyfooting around the fact that you clearly mean for the two of you to be spending 1 on 1 time together. Plus it eliminates the problem some guys run into with making their intentions clear. 2) If they haven't agreed on a time/day/location, then they haven't agreed to do anything. If the conver…
/r/seduction23/10/17 07:43 PM
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No offense, but this is why people without relevant experience on a certain topic should not be giving advice about said topic. It sounds reasonable, and probably provides some confirmation bias (it's what a guy in this situation would probably want to do) but it's exactly the wrong thing to do and will not be a positive development for him. (See /u/throwawayPUA 's comment.)
/r/seduction23/10/17 03:07 PM
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Slow down Casanova you're probably not the heartbreaker you think you are. Just don't lie to people or lead them on. Simple as that - just honesty.
/r/seduction21/10/17 01:05 AM
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You should focus exclusively on this one girl, pursue her more, blow up her phone and inbox, double text her, spill your guts and let her know how special she is, send her flowers and buy her gifts, insist that you two need to have a talk about your feelings for each other so you can find out where you stand with her, and in general just ignore every sign that she's way more into this other guy than she is into you.
/r/seduction19/10/17 09:36 PM
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Just say things didn't work out...
/r/seduction19/10/17 09:26 PM
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Lol, someone did, and is a little defensive about it.
/r/seduction19/10/17 12:43 PM
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I just posted this in another thread: The thing that helps me when I have a hard time cold approaching women out in public is, I think about the possible actions I could take, and the possible outcomes of those actions. So, Option 1: You avoid talking to her, because you're too scared. Outcome 1) I'm sure you don't need to imagine what the outcome is here - you go home without her number, just like you would if she rejected you, except you have no idea if she would have liked you or not, and you…
/r/seduction18/10/17 03:14 PM
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I would hang back and let your wife (and alcohol) take care of most of the work. Sounds like she's got it under control. Just be present and act natural.
/r/seduction18/10/17 01:26 PM
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Like any particular relevation that made you "thank you Corey that fuckkng work!" Women will reject you if you chase them too much, even if they initially liked you a lot.
/r/seduction18/10/17 12:51 PM
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Did you get the "Let's just be friends" talk? If so just move on, but try to let her catch glimpses of the new and improved you without going out of your way to show her. If she has any interest left, she'll reach out. If not, then it's over, but you'll have already moved on so no big deal.
/r/seduction18/10/17 12:48 PM
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Well no I don't actually, I'm just playing around to be honest.
/r/seduction17/10/17 09:06 PM
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/u/recyclablebanthas nailed it; this girl could be a stuck up bitch, or she could be a complete fucking bore. You have no idea, because you've never talked to her. The only thing that qualifies her as a "dream girl" is the fantasy you've built up in your head, based on little more than her appearance and choice of grocery store - it's literally a dream. She could even be a very nice person who you get along well with - but whatever she is, she's not what you imagine her to be. The thing that hel…
/r/seduction17/10/17 08:37 PM
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Hm maybe I'm gay for the Gos but I think he's a pretty good looking dude. Or maybe I'm just hurt that this scale would have me at 5-6. Either way, the 8/9/10's are all just male models and that's a pretty ridiculous standard to hold. Not that this has anything to do with OP's question.
/r/seduction17/10/17 07:38 PM
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That being the famous "smile and say hi"-- That doesn't work for me. I reject this notion. Why do you say that?
/r/seduction17/10/17 07:11 PM
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That scale is insane. Ryan Gosling is a 7? And I can't help but notice it's all white guys.
/r/seduction17/10/17 05:00 PM
2

How much time do you spend texting them? And what was the extent of your in-person interactions?
/r/seduction16/10/17 08:48 PM
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You can't build/maintain attraction and investment through text alone. You're fooling yourself if you think otherwise.
/r/seduction16/10/17 07:52 PM
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"Text game" does not exist. And after you ignore this advice and continue to text her with no concrete plan to arrange a meet-up, you will see what the harm is when she inevitably stops responding to your messages.
/r/seduction16/10/17 07:49 PM
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Glad it was helpful. Another great thing about framing it as a distraction is that resisting it or succumbing becomes a matter of willpower. And every person has the capacity for an infinite amount of willpower. It is a conscious choice you make to either have your mind/intellect control your actions, or to allow your impulses/feelings to dictate your actions. Practice denying yourself things that you want. It will make your mentally strong- whether it's denying yourself another handful of chips…
/r/seduction16/10/17 06:12 PM
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I don't know what else to tell you; it seems like you already have zeroed in on the problem: I get excited. I reply. I actually enjoy the conversation. Forget about "being mysterious" and "not being too available" and reply to her fairly quickly. Which leads to... I text something which either turns her off, makes her lose interest, or I come across too direct. Girl stops replying. The more you try to have a conversation with her over text, the more likely you are to have this problem. I'm obvio…
/r/seduction16/10/17 04:37 PM
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Asking her where you stand with her means you are uncertain. If you're uncertain it means you're worried you aren't good enough for her. Which means your unconfident and insecure. That's a major turn off.
/r/seduction14/10/17 05:56 PM
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I'm going to meet her today and we are going to have a conversation about this whole thing Don't go and approach it like you need to have some big serious talk and resolve some issue. That's just going to turn her off even more. Leave your uncertainty about the relationship out of it, and be very wary of saying anything or reacting in any way that might come off as needy.
/r/seduction14/10/17 05:24 PM
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I got the signal 3 week ago that she wasn't texting me anymore Good for picking up on that. I was doing all the texting, calling and chasing Big mistake. When she doesn't put in effort, it's a sign she doesn't care much. You need to recognize that and back off, not chase more. She said she have alot going on (exam) which is true but does that means she can't find 5 Mon or so to text or call me People get busy, you can't be needy... but you're also right. If she wanted to she could take 5 min to …
/r/seduction14/10/17 01:05 PM
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What is the point of this other than a humblebrag?
/r/seduction14/10/17 12:47 PM
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Remember this now and always: When dealing with women, your attention is your most valuable commodity. This is the single most important piece of advice I can give to guys who feel like they are being jerked around. So if a woman is used to having your attention, and you suddenly take that away... she will notice, she will be bothered by it and she will try to find out why & get it back. (Unless she cares so little about you that she didn't even want your attention in the first place, which does…
/r/seduction13/10/17 09:37 PM
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Ouch. I've made those mistakes before. You blew it, and it will probably never work out. Fortunately, the thing to do to "get her back" is the same thing you'd do if you never have a shot with her again: Move on. Maybe she'll start to miss you and to chase after you again. Probably not, but at least you won't have wasted any more time trying to "do something" to make her change her mind.
/r/seduction13/10/17 08:30 PM
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I was going to say that bringing up any dirt she's told you about herself as a way to achieve anything is probably going to backfire on you... But your examples don't sound like shit tests, and your responses just sound like playful teasing.
/r/seduction13/10/17 08:19 PM
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Haha sorry didn't mean to be a dick, I just think harsh words are usually more motivational than sympathetic ones. I am sympathetic though, because I've been in that situation before. Many times. And each time, it ended up being a huge waste of my time that I regretted. So I'm trying to motivate you to cut your losses and move on.
/r/seduction13/10/17 08:01 PM
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The other responses in this thread have it right. You're over thinking it. Take her at her word, and find another time and activity that works for her.
/r/seduction13/10/17 07:21 PM
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I've seen her argue with her bf online at like 8.30, 8.31 I'm getting a txt from her. Oh COME ON man, how much more obvious can this be? The girl's an attention whore, and when things aren't going well her boyfriend she runs to you for reassurance? Then disappears until she needs another dose of non-bf male validation? And you still think you have a chance with her? Could you be a bigger sucker? I'll bet you've never even hooked up with her, have you? I'm being harsh right now because you need t…
/r/seduction13/10/17 06:35 PM
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Dude, fuuuuuuck those chicks. So not worth the time or effort it takes. They like you when they're around you because they like the attention and validation they get from you. But it's hard to get them around you because they'd currently getting that attention and validation from some other guy. Translation: she doesn't value your attention any more than any random guys attention, which means she doesn't give much of a fuck about you. You are a tool to her, in the literal sense: you are one of m…
/r/seduction13/10/17 05:55 PM
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It means she notices that she's got competition, that other women find you desirable. She might even be a little bit jealous. You couldn't ask for better social proof than that. It other words, it's a VERY good thing.
/r/seduction13/10/17 03:53 PM
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Yeah I would forget names and details of conversations... it would be a disaster for me. Even 4 dates in a week starts to stress me out if I do that for 2 or 3 weeks in a row I've learned. I got burnt out really quick when I did that. I need time to do my own thing, without all the external demands on my time.
/r/seduction12/10/17 05:17 PM
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That's got to be exhausting. Mentally, physically and financially.
/r/seduction12/10/17 04:42 PM
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2 per week is good, 1 every two weeks is sparse.
/r/seduction12/10/17 04:38 PM
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So I've read both and like that they both focus on self-improvement as a means to "seduce". Where they differ is, Mark Manson's book excels in teaching how to be a more attractive man in general, and how to find women who are a good match for you. Corey Wayne's book excels in teaching you how to avoid the common mistakes and pitfalls most guys make in every stage of a relationship, from first approach to LTR/marriage. Both have great value, and don't conflict with each other in my opinion. I don…
/r/seduction12/10/17 04:28 PM
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I've noticed that they front load the profiles you're seeing with the most attractive women when you first open the app, for about the first dozen or so. But even after that, the "average" girl on bumble is much hotter than the "average" girl on tinder. If I look at 50 profiles on bumble, I'm probably swiping right on at least 60%, whereas on tinder it's the exact opposite, a majority are immediate nopes and I'm swiping right on maybe 30-40%. For the record, I'm from a relatively small suburb ou…
/r/seduction11/10/17 03:55 PM
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Bumble in my opinion. I don't agree the claims of entitlement or "ultra-basicness" at all. In fact, tinder is where I'd say the sense of entitlement comes in. On tinder, girls just get to sit back and let the matches and messages pour in. And if you're not over 6' with model good looks or some wildly interesting conversation starter, you get ignored. A lot of women just seem to use the app for validation or entertainment, with no intention of actually talking, much less meeting, with the guys th…
/r/seduction11/10/17 12:39 PM
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Take it from a guy who made this mistake (which I knew deep down was a mistake, even at the time) just because the sex was good: DON'T STICK YOUR DICK IN CRAZY. It is never worth it in the long run.
/r/seduction10/10/17 10:39 PM
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"git gud" Come on, man.
/r/seduction06/10/17 06:20 PM
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But if you're doing everything right Aye, there's the rub. You always have to be doing everything right, and she's ever in a situation where she feels like she could get something from another guy that she's not getting from you at that moment, then she will cheat. Because a cheater is always a cheater, even when they're not actively cheating. Don't be the fool who thinks "She only cheated this one time with me because I'm so special."
/r/seduction06/10/17 05:56 PM
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No. A cheater is always a cheater. So many guys delude themselves into thinking that they are so irresistible that she just couldn't help but cheat on her boyfriend. Everyone wants to believe that they are just that special. They let their egos get in the way of seeing the obvious fact: If she cheated on her boyfriend with you, she can cheat on you with someone else. It doesn't necessarily mean she'd go around sleeping with any guy that hits on her, but given the right set of circumstances, she'…
/r/seduction06/10/17 05:07 PM
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I've only ever had one threesome, it was by accident (not that I'm complaining) and booze was involved. It just kind of happened naturally. So my suggestion is to get a little bit drunk. Sorry, that's all I got for ya.
/r/seduction06/10/17 04:50 PM
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Before the question I was the one who texted last, soo does that counts as 2? I'm not exactly sure what the sequence of events was for you, but my rule is, minimize or eliminate all contact that does not revolve around setting up a date. (Obviously respond if they text you first, but don't initiate.) I will ask them out a maximum of two times (wait a week or two in between if the first attempt is a negative), and if they ignore me or "can't" for whatever reason without suggesting a time to resch…
/r/seduction02/10/17 09:07 PM
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I wouldn't be so quick to move on. She may have been busy and forgot. Not likely, but possible. I'd give her the benefit of the doubt and ask her out one more time (after waiting a week or so from your last text). Don't ask if everything is alright though, that just reflects uncertainty and insecurity. Just act like the ignored question never happened. But if she ignores two of your texts in a row, definitely move on.
/r/seduction02/10/17 05:27 PM
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Maybe she will, maybe she won't. But she obviously is not interested in you right now, so she might meet another dude anyway. You don't have any spots reserved in her life whether you are around or not. And if you keep chasing of after she's expressed clear disinterest, you're just going to annoy the fuck out of her. Sorry, I know this isn't the answer you want to hear, but it's the one you need to hear because it's the correct answer. Life, and more specifically, women, don't give a fuck about …
/r/seduction29/09/17 04:04 PM
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I KNOW a girl really likes me but they still can't find any time for me. Well my friend, I am sorry to inform you that you are wrong. Fact: if they really liked you, they would make time for you. No matter what. If they can't "find the time", it means they don't care enough to look.
/r/seduction29/09/17 03:54 PM
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1) Anything you learned from the movies about women and relationships is wrong. Forget it now. 2) The only solution to get her back is to forget her and earnestly move on. The more you try to "fight for her", the more you are going to push her away. The only chance you have to get her to change her mind is to be strong enough to let her go.
/r/seduction29/09/17 03:50 PM
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Yeah it won't solve your other problems with women. But they will definitely notice. Smelling good is probably the number 1 comment I get from women. It's not a silver bullet and it's not a deal breaker; it's just one extra something for them to like, so why not?
/r/seduction28/09/17 12:42 PM
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White knights are guys who've bought into the neo-feminist crap that says men are scummy and not to be trusted. And in doing so, they put not just this or that woman, but the entire gender, on a pedestal. Doesn't work. In fact, it's dishonest. Men aren't worth less (or more) than women, we're equal. And women want sex as much as men. We want and need each other (take that loosely, I don't want to get into a discussion about neediness). We're humans, with human desires. We're two faces of the sam…
/r/seduction28/09/17 12:20 AM
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Sounds like one of you is going to be a virgin much longer than the other lol. He'll find that his white knighting isn't going to help him with women. They may appreciate a man who doesn't try to have sex with them, but they won't respect him for it. And without respect, he's not going to have any successful relationships, if he manages to find himself in one at all. Seduction isn't about tricking women into having sex with you, and if that's what he thinks then that's just too bad for him. It's…
/r/seduction27/09/17 11:57 PM
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Rarely, but your time and energy are much better spent going after other women.
/r/seduction27/09/17 08:54 PM
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That "alpha" thing i just dont like it. I know what you mean- I didn't like it when I first heard of the concept. I just seemed like some douchey frat boy bullshit about acting macho and being a dick. But when I started getting into seduction and self-improvement, I started seeing the term a lot, except here it's about being a "real man" who is confident in who he is and what he wants. While there may be overlap between the two different understandings, the fundamental thing about being "alpha" …
/r/seduction26/09/17 11:07 PM
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I don't ask- I just assume they are and try to up my game as much as possible so that I stand above the competition, whether it's real or imaginary.
/r/seduction26/09/17 06:35 PM
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This is fucking retarded.
/r/seduction20/09/17 07:34 AM
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Deal with them by stop worrying about them. Get rid of the mentality that you need to put on a show to impress her - don't forget that she should have interesting things to say as well. Conversation is a two way street. So if there's an awkward pause, instead of feeling self conscious, revel in it. Hold eye contact and let the tension build up a little. Give her a playful little smirk and ask her what she's thinking, or better yet, make an assumption about what she's thinking (now's a good time …
/r/seduction20/09/17 07:29 AM
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the next day I texted her saying I had a fun time and she didn't respond so I waited another day and told her to come see a movie with me the next night Too much, too soon. Don't text her the next day, unless she texts you first. Wait till the following week then ask her out again. Let her wonder about you.
/r/seduction20/09/17 07:02 AM
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Just chill and wait for her to get back to you. If she doesn't, then wait a week and try again.
/r/seduction16/09/17 05:13 PM
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Sounds like my ex. Who had BPD. I don't want any man to ever have to deal with what I dealt with again. OP, I seriously hope you take the advice of the majority of the people in this thread and fucking run.
/r/seduction16/09/17 01:23 PM
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You want my advice? DON'T STICK YOU DICK IN CRAZY. Seriously dude, however magic her pussy is, it is not worth the trouble. Get out now before getting out becomes 100x more difficult. She sounds legit crazy and trust me you do not want the cops getting involved.
/r/seduction16/09/17 01:20 PM
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As I described in the next sentence, I changed my mind.
/r/seduction15/09/17 08:09 PM
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I've seen "products" and "programs " and all kinds of shit out there for $100 or even $1000, and that's fucking crazy to me. I always said that I'd never pay for any "dating/seduction education" crap, if I couldn't read it for free on the internet or learn it myself, I didn't need to know it. Then I met and subsequently lost the girl of my dreams, and decided I'd never let that happen again. Two $10 ebooks I've bought since then are 3% Man by Corey Wayne, and Models by Mark Manson (the latter of…
/r/seduction15/09/17 07:16 PM
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elaborate last attempt vs. desperate What's the difference man? From where she's standing, they're one in the same. And besides. She got bed bugs from you dude. She ain't coming back. Get real.
/r/seduction15/09/17 06:51 PM
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Sometimes people are genuinely busy, but if she can't find time in a 2 week period it means she don't give a shit.
/r/seduction15/09/17 12:34 PM
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You asked for advice, but you don't want the kind of advice you need to hear in your situation. When a girl you've been seeing starts back off, then you need to BACK OFF. Move on to new girls. It doesn't have to mean that she's dead to you - if she starts showing more interest again, and you're still into her, then obviously have another go. But "moving on" will benefit you in two ways: A) It will prepare you for what is the most likely outcome of this situation - that being, she's done with you…
/r/seduction14/09/17 09:26 PM
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Sometimes, overthinking and over doing is THE undoing of your situation You're absolutely right, one thing I've learned since I started getting better with women is that very often, doing less is better. The artist thing is a great analogy, by the way. Point is, you can never 100Percent know what she is thinking Also very true. Someone else made a similar comment- that my perception of what happened is likely different from her perception (which I don't and won't know). So it's a bad move to bas…
/r/seduction14/09/17 02:02 PM
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I think we've had some kind of misunderstanding and have been sort of talking past each other... but I don't disagree with any of that, that's how I see things too. Good to have that all reiterated for anyone else reading this. Thanks.
/r/seduction13/09/17 09:33 PM
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Personally I don't really like Field Reports. I don't open them, I don't vote on them, I just ignore them. I just don't really enjoy reading some random person's story about how they talked to some chick somewhere, unless there's context or a specific question being asked. Plus a lot of people here give shit advice when they have no business advising anyone, so the few that I have looked at are much like you said- conflicting schools of thought critiquing what they view as "right" and "wrong". T…
/r/seduction13/09/17 09:12 PM
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I get the concept of being outcome independent, but I think you're taking it too far. I'm not emotionally anchored to either outcome, but still obviously have a preference for how I would like things to turn out. Just like you can approach a girl at a bar and be indifferent as to whether she gives you her number or comes home with you or whatever, but still prefer that she does do whatever you approached her for in the first place. You know? If you don't get what you want, so what? Who cares, th…
/r/seduction13/09/17 08:56 PM
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Wise words. So you see it as a black and white "you either fucked up past the point of no return or you didn't" instead of a gray zone, like "you're in a tailspin and need to do right thing to correct it or else you're going to crash", to use an analogy.
/r/seduction13/09/17 08:30 PM
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Yeah it was definitely a sincere apology. I really really regret it. And she responded right away, which was a surprise considering she ended with a very annoyed "not coming over dude" and then "goodnight." the night before. If it's been a day or two and I were you, I would start another convo and quickly move to setting up another fun date. Okay so that's good to know. Ideally I'd like to see her before I go on vacation next week, but wasn't sure if I should wait to reach out until before or af…
/r/seduction13/09/17 08:22 PM
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Not hung up on her in the least, if I blew it then so be it. I'm dating three others at the moment. But I sensed potential with this one the few times we've hung out so far. I think people in this sub are very quick to advise "moving on". It's not bad advice, especially since there are so many beginners here who do get hung up on one girl. And I know more often than not that is the final outcome, but I don't feel like that's warranted just yet. And if it is, like I said, then so be it.
/r/seduction13/09/17 07:54 PM
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In my case, I got really drunk at a beer fest on Saturday, and was too pushy in trying to get this girl over for a hookup. I don't even remember it, but after reviewing my texts the next morning I wanted to slap the shit out of myself and then jump in a 12 hour time machine. I apologized for being kind of a dick (I feel it was called for, my texts genuinely left a bad taste in my mouth), and made a joke about too much beer and tequila. She laughed and said "no worries" but judging from the level…
/r/seduction13/09/17 05:02 PM
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If I'm hooking up with a girl that I just met that day, I'm not gonna go down on her. Simple as that. Finger her then fuck her (with a condom obviously). With girls I've been talking to, or gone on dates with, and I get the impression that they're not the dirty slutty type, then I don't worry about going down on them. Maybe that's not "doctor recommended" but that's been my philosophy for years and I'm still clean.
/r/seduction13/09/17 04:20 PM
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Has she said anything about rescheduling? If she has, I'd take her excuses as genuine and make a few more attempts to set up another date. If she hasn't, I'd stop contacting her and wait for her to reach out.
/r/seduction13/09/17 12:21 PM
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I got a tip that's good for getting in her pants... lol sorry couldn't resist. We were all thinking it.
/r/seduction08/09/17 05:23 PM
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Okay this is super relevant for me because I live in suburbs and go out on a lot of dates in the city with girls who live in the city. So let's say we're making out in a bar or something (obviously you need to first amp up the sexual tension to point where she's ready for a passionate make out session in a public place), then I'll start kissing her neck and then whisper in her ear "I wish we had some place to go that's a little more private." Or something along those lines. That's her cue to sug…
/r/seduction08/09/17 04:39 PM
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Pretty smooth. When you see her again, don't treat her like a "gym goddess", treat her like every other woman in your life. And don't blow up her phone with texts like a lot of guys tend to want to do.
/r/seduction07/09/17 12:31 PM
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Who cares? She doesn't. Some do. I've talked with some women who've said that it's a turnoff when guys text with poor spelling/grammar. Never once heard the opposite. James Tusk just posted a thread about him texting a chick from daygame in this subreddit. Look at his texts. I suspect his success came in spite of his typing, not because of it. Ultimately, I don't think it's going to make or break your chances either way - so why bother? Just use the same grammar rules that you do with everyone e…
/r/seduction06/09/17 09:47 PM
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I text with correct spelling and grammar because I'm an intelligent, well educated individual who knows how to use proper English, and if that somehow comes with a negative perception then I could not care less. That is the essence of "Not Giving A Fuck" - not "Let me microanalyze every letter and punctuation mark so as to appear like I don't care." Besides, sometimes effort is good. I think the effort (although let's be honest, it takes zero effort to capitalize something properly) you put into…
/r/seduction06/09/17 07:45 PM
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The fuck the hot cougar and who cares if she's friends with a lady who happens to be your mom! Someone else already said this but that'll be a great story. I'm a little envious. Something about acting out in real life a scene from a cheesy porno is super hot... This couldn't even be more cliche if you were a pizza delivery driver. Also, I'm guessing she's 15+ years older than you, which means she'll probably be making an effort to seduce you. Older women tend to be very forward and aggressive wi…
/r/seduction06/09/17 07:12 PM
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1) It's a waste of time to ask. They will all lie to protect your feelings. This this this. Complete waste of time. Also, asking those sorts of questions only devalues yourself further, past what had already been done by whatever it was that turned her off in the first place. So first of all, she's going to lie. Second of all, she's going to think "I definitely made the right decision ditching this guy."
/r/seduction06/09/17 04:56 PM
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You have no idea how not good looking she is. Wait, so she's not good looking? I assumed she was. In that case, I change my answer from, "Fuck yes, go fuck your mom's hot cougar friend!" to "Why are you trying to have sex with an old lady?"
/r/seduction06/09/17 04:50 PM
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Good job man. I know what you mean. The last time I totally embarrassed myself approaching a beautiful woman, I was able to walk away happy. Not because I enjoy being an awkward weirdo and failing to make a good impression on a girl that seemed really cool, but because I had the guts to walk up and talk to her in the first place. The alternative was to stare from a distance at this hot chick all night, wishing I could go talk to her, then go home without ever having even tried and spend the rest…
/r/seduction06/09/17 12:48 PM
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"I have lots of water..." 😂
/r/seduction05/09/17 03:04 PM
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Patience, dude. It hasn't even been a full day. Expecting chicks to flock to you the second you set up your profile is an absurd expectation. Sure there are higher quality women, but that doesn't guarantee success with minimal time and effort. Make sure you have good pictures and a good bio, and see where you are in a week. One of the nice things about bumble is that it shows you how many people have swiped right on you within the range you have set, before you've swiped either way on them, so y…
/r/seduction31/08/17 09:07 PM
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Nope I'm pretty sure he read and understands the situation fully, and has given the correct response. Perhaps you are hoping for a more detailed answer that pertains specifically to your write-up, but it isn't necessary. Trying to maintain conversations, flirt and build attraction through texting is a universal blunder. It doesn't work. Leave her alone until she's back from wherever, and then try to set up a date with her. Right now, she has nothing invested in you, and your constant attempts to…
/r/seduction31/08/17 05:47 PM
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Dude you're getting some terrible responses in this thread. I don't see anything manipulative about that at all. Sounds like she changed her mind and decided she didn't want to fuck you in the back seat of your car. That's totally her right, and I don't blame her. I mean really, the back seat of your car? What, are you in high school? Don't be that guy who gets butthurt because some woman didn't give him what he wanted- especially when that thing is sex. Few things are more unattractive than a g…
/r/seduction31/08/17 02:17 PM
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Talking about things that are turn offs for her is hardly "advice"...
/r/seduction31/08/17 12:49 PM
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He put so many words in her mouth, it was clear he wanted to use to her illustrate a point he wanted to make, rather than let her talk and interpret what she says.
/r/seduction31/08/17 12:48 PM
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For a town of ~150k you've got about 3 1/2 weeks bro. Make it count.
/r/seduction31/08/17 04:27 AM
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command respect... don't demand it. I love this. One of the two best pieces of wisdom my high school football coach taught me. The other being, when you get to the end zone, act like you've been there before. Obvious meaning in the context of football (don't be an attention-whoring showboat), but also- when you "score" with a chick, don't act like it's your first time and start acting all giddy and dopey, or else you'll scare her right off.
/r/seduction31/08/17 12:45 AM
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At least in my area (Chicago/suburbs). Tons of chicks. Way higher quality. So much easier.
/r/seduction30/08/17 10:41 PM
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Bumble is where it's at dude. Waaaayyyyy hotter on bumble than tinder or OKC. Plus they have to message you first.
/r/seduction30/08/17 06:21 PM
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I don't remember the details of your post but one general piece of advice that is super important is to always play your cards close to the chest. Don't wear your heart on your sleeve. In other words, don't be forthcoming about your feelings, be aloof and always keep them guessing. Whatever emotions you are feeling, be they positive or negative, do not let them show through. Always play it cool.
/r/seduction30/08/17 06:06 PM
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Okay, so you're just horny and need to get laid, and since she's the only girl in your life at the moment and she seems easy, you want to use her to get your dick wet. lol that's very different from wanting to date someone, but okay fine. Just do what I told you (flirt, escalate, etc). But don't lie to her about your feelings, because you obviously don't have any for her. Leading someone on because you want to get something from them is a really shitty thing to do.
/r/seduction30/08/17 05:45 PM
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I did not think I would like her Fair enough, sometimes that happens- you start to see a different side of someone after getting to know them and realize you are actually attracted to them. That's okay. If you want to tell her something, tell her that. But I would only do that if she questions why you've suddenly changed how you interact with her though - otherwise just show her you're interested in non-verbally. maybe I was too horny these days. Think about whether your feelings for her are gen…
/r/seduction30/08/17 05:11 PM
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Asked out this girl after being 4 months as friends Way, way to late to be showing intent. I said not interested in being friends with someone I like. Good. Correct response. She is hinting me about me being valnerable and saying my feelings. Eh I don't think so. Sounds like a test to me, because I don't know any girls who would want to find out that some guy they only think of as a friend is secretly in love with them. So Imma fake and say that I am deeply in love with her? Is this a good idea?…
/r/seduction30/08/17 04:35 PM
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Up to you. I wouldn't, but then again I live in a more densely populated area. Hopefully you're not driving all the way to her though, for a date where distance is a factor, I'd expect to meet somewhere roughly halfway.
/r/seduction30/08/17 03:05 PM
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Wrong question. You don't "get a girl to like you" using Snapchat. You have number, so what are you waiting for? Ask her out on a date. Meet up with her in person. Show her a good time and hook up with her. That's you do it. You can't get her feelings for you to grow through a digital medium.
/r/seduction30/08/17 01:17 PM
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Try more and don't not have success. Seriously though rejection is much easier when it's happened countless times.
/r/seduction30/08/17 03:51 AM
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In my experience, Tinder is a wasteland of ugly/fat chicks, decent looking girls who are just there for an ego boost with no intention of meeting up, and the occasional smoking hot chick (who turns out to be an instagram model with no intention of meeting up). Mostly the former. Edit: this study is illuminating... LendEDU, an online marketplace for student loan refinancing, asked 9,761 millennial college students about why they use the popular dating app. While seventy-two percent of respondents…
/r/seduction29/08/17 09:43 PM
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Probably a better question for r/relationships instead of r/seduction. But to give you a quick answer (sorry, didn't read the whole thing) - something is going on, it may be another guy, it may just be that she's losing her attraction to you, or maybe she's just going through a phase and it has absolutely nothing to do with you at all. Tip: Watch what she does, don't listen to what she says. Tells me how I'm the most handsome man she's ever been with Totally. Meaningless. Bullshit. You simply ca…
/r/seduction29/08/17 09:35 PM
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Wear a thinner condom.
/r/seduction29/08/17 06:08 PM
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Nah, I'm not gonna go around calling girls cunts in hopes of getting laid. Even if it does work for you, trashy women aren't really my type. Knock ourself out though...
/r/seduction29/08/17 04:20 PM
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Yeah, try calling a girl a cunt and see which emotions you spike... I highly doubt it's the kind that get you laid. I was with ya until that part though.
/r/seduction29/08/17 04:05 PM
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Hey man, I feel ya on all that, I really do. It sucks when that happens, especially when it's someone you really click with and you really like. Get used to it though- that's how most women end things most of the time these days (same could probably be said for guys). That shit still happens to me, the only difference is how I handle it now. You know how it is though, easy come, easy go... I was in a nearly identical situation earlier this year and even now I'm completely clueless as to why it e…
/r/seduction29/08/17 02:23 AM
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But you didn't just walk away without saying anything- you had a fit and deleted her phone number and facebook. That is definitely a sign of insecurity, as well as other things that all point desperation. I know, because I've done shit like that when I was younger. And when I look back on my actions, that's exactly I was: I was needy and insecure, and the rejection hurt so I reacted like a scared little bitch. The phone thing you could have hid, but she'll notice if you aren't friends on faceboo…
/r/seduction29/08/17 01:19 AM
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So here are the important takeaways in all this: You met a girl on tinder, hit it off, fucked her She started to do the "slow fade" on ya, and you reacted in a needy manner In spite of that fuck-up, it must have "worked" well enough that it got her to come back, or at least come back long enough for her to fade on ya a second time... And you reacted, not just in a needy manner, but a desperate and insecure manner And now you want to know how to get her to come back again? Man, you're a real glut…
/r/seduction28/08/17 11:47 PM
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You sound bitter and resentful. That probably has a lot to do with your struggles.
/r/seduction28/08/17 02:30 PM
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I just wrote a short blog about diminishing returns. It's at that point that you start developing your lifestyle and you don't have the fear of missing out (as much). Wow, yeah that's exactly it. When I was younger all I was interested in was partying and getting laid. As I got older, I realized I didn't have enough real hobbies and activities to keep me entertained outside of those two other interests. So even while I continued to enjoy partying and getting laid, I worked a lot on rounding out …
/r/seduction25/08/17 06:48 PM
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You're not better at sleeping with women now than you were at lay 1? Ohhh, like what women want in bed. Yes, I resoundingly agree that sleeping with more women has taught me that lol. I was thinking along the lines of, what is going to make a woman choose you over all the other guys she's dating, or choose you over staying single while she waits for a hypothetical Prince Charming she hasn't even met. Like I said, sometimes being a good looking high value alpha male who's funny, charming, intelli…
/r/seduction25/08/17 06:32 PM
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Not gonna lie, it's really hard for me to be my normal self in approaches when I don't have the energy. Overcoming mental roadblocks is one thing, but physical barriers are a horse of another color. For example, I was at a concert on the last night of a 4 day holiday weekend, and I was just running on fumes by the end. Didn't feel like being social, couldn't wait to go home and go to bed, but I saw a cute girl I wanted to get to know, so I forced myself to go talk to her. I walked up and said so…
/r/seduction25/08/17 04:51 PM
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I gotta disagree with your assertion that when you sleep with more women, then you know what women want. Most women don't even know what women want. I've slept with at least 60 chicks, enough that I lost count years ago, and I still don't have a fucking clue what women want. Besides the obvious boiler plate stuff, I mean (good looking, high value alpha male who's charming, funny, intelligent, sweeps them off their feet and blah blah blah). But knowing and even being those things is not enough. E…
/r/seduction25/08/17 01:54 PM
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No sex, fine, but why don't you want to kiss on a first date? Is it because you are genuinely a very conservative type of person who thinks it's inappropriate? Or is it because you are too nervous to attempt it, and are using this "rule" as a way to excuse and enable your fears? Think about it.
/r/seduction24/08/17 03:00 PM
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In hindsight, where and when you lost your virginity is really not a big deal. Virginity is not the special thing that virgins think it is before they get laid a few times. You're not going to transform or evolve if you lose it "the right way", and you're (probably) not going to be scarred for life if you lose it at a brothel. I lost it at 18 to a girl I was dating at the time. I'm 30 now, and you know how much time I spend thinking about how I lost my virginity? Absolutely none. In fact, the on…
/r/seduction24/08/17 01:04 PM
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Go for the kiss! I mean, assuming you've read the signs and she's into you. Don't be one of those socially clueless guys who are like "Okay we've reached the end of the date, so now it's time for the kiss!" without bothering to read her attraction level. But if you are both having a good time and you've already gotten her comfortable with your touch, absolutely go for it. Doesn't have to be at the end either, it's best done when it feels right. Unfortunately I don't know if you can teach that, a…
/r/seduction23/08/17 12:37 AM
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Weekend or weekday? Doesn't matter. I typically set up first dates on weeknights, and save weekends for hanging out with friends and going out with girls I'm "dating" (those I've been out with before and like enough to see more than a few times). Daytime or night-time? Night! Daytime is when friends go out; night is when dates go out. Just a general rule of thumb... Huge caveat: if you have a fun date idea that requires it to take place during the day, then go ahead with the day date and don't t…
/r/seduction22/08/17 02:06 PM
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Your couch and your mattress are to things you for sure don't want to skimp on. You spend a lot of time there, make sure it's quality.
/r/seduction19/08/17 02:41 PM
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That is exactly correct. Once you're already making out, moving forward to sex is pretty simple. Just make out, move it to a horizontal location, make out more, touch her erogenous zones, hands up her shirt and down her pants, clothes come off, foreplay, sex, pizza, sex, sleep. It's that easy (and obviously you stop escalating and maintain your current level if you get any resistance to the escalation, try again later). The real question should be "how to transition from touching to making out",…
/r/seduction18/08/17 05:01 PM
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That is a great question and I don't have the answer... commenting so I remember to come back and check for other input. I was in / am in that situation with a girl I was totally head over heels for and things were great in the beginning, but I made the mistake of texting too much early on. So when I noticed her starting to go cold, I backed off, and then when she would reach out to me, I'd wait to respond until a time that was convenient for me (typically 2-8 hours later). Then she'd take longe…
/r/seduction18/08/17 04:26 PM
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sometimes i need to throw in a 2nd or 3rd msg to get her attention back in. BIIIIIIIIIG mistake. Never double text! You may not realize it, but asking how to get a chick to keep responding to your texts so you can have long conversations is akin to asking "How can I sabotage my chances with this girl?" Don't be her texting buddy. It's not going to make her like you more. Use the phone to set up a time to see each other, and then that's it. Put it down, and you'll talk to her when you see her nex…
/r/seduction18/08/17 01:56 PM
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Definitely not a good sign. You should call less. Have you gone out on any dates with her or hooked up with her?
/r/seduction18/08/17 12:52 PM
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Get her wet, dummy.
/r/seduction18/08/17 05:39 AM
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Dude. Absolutely. DO NOT. Take that person's advice. Tell her you like her? Ask if she likes you back?? Talk about getting serious on the third date??? That is so terrible I almost think they're just fucking with you.
/r/seduction17/08/17 05:48 AM
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Terrible advice..
/r/seduction17/08/17 05:43 AM
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I'd stick with the handshake. A handshake can tell you a lot about a person. Plus, would you ever introduce yourself like that to someone you weren't interested in? I don't think this is an area a woman is looking for a guy to differentiate himself from other potential suitors. I can't imagine a girl excitedly telling her friends, "I met this cute guy and he fist-bumped me instead of shaking my hand! I wonder what he's like in bed..." Just my opinion though.
/r/seduction15/08/17 09:04 PM
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It's the other guy. Unfortunately she's more into him than she is into you. Don't chase her, that will only push her further away. When a girl goes cold on ya for no clear reason, the only thing you can really do is give her the same treatment. If she's used to hearing from you, I guarantee she will notice when you suddenly remove your attention- and if she cares at all, she will reach out to you to find out where she stands. Women are like cats- when they're curious about something (or someone)…
/r/seduction15/08/17 08:48 PM
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Doesn't seem like you did anything wrong, unless there are things you aren't telling us. In fact, you probably should have stood up to her a little more when she started with the bitchy attitude. Sounds like she's just a royal pain the ass. Good riddance.
/r/seduction15/08/17 05:52 PM
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This is a great one for learning how to be a better and more attractive man in general. A must-read, I would say. I'd also recommend "3% Man" by Corey Wayne. It's seduction through self-improvement, like Models is, but it excels over Models in the area of teaching the mistakes guys commonly make and how not to "blow it" at every stage of a relationship, from first approach to LTR.
/r/seduction15/08/17 03:39 PM
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Haha thanks. I do tend to overthink things, I need to remember to remove myself from these situations because it's so much easier to see things clearly when you're not applying yourself to a scenario. I'm actually on vacation now so I was also wondering if I should text her now while I'm fresh in her mind, or wait till I get back when I can actually plan something. Knowing me I'll probably forget and do it next week haha.
/r/seduction07/08/17 10:31 PM
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I'd be perfectly content with never talking to or seeing her ever again, but she was hot so it could never hurt to add another lady to the lineup...
/r/seduction07/08/17 10:24 PM
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Hm. Sounds pretty straightforward when you put it that way...
/r/seduction07/08/17 10:22 PM
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For sure. Give her the benefit of the doubt, give her another chance (especially if she brings up a rescheduling time/date). And most of all, BE PATIENT!!!
/r/seduction07/08/17 05:51 PM
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If apartment building has a pool, bring beer to the pool.
/r/seduction06/08/17 03:12 PM
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This is more "How to not blow it with girls" than it is "How to get girls to like you". Still, really important information for beginners. I've fucked with way too many times with girls I really liked by chasing too much and being too obvious with my emotions.
/r/seduction05/08/17 04:37 PM
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I agree with this wholeheartedly. "Kinda seeing someone" is not the same thing as "seeing someone" which is also not the same thing as "I have a boyfriend". So while it's not a good sign for her interest level, I'd ignore that statement entirely (maybe make a quip about it, like you said) and proceed full steam ahead to what will most likely be a flat out rejection lol. Or maybe not, maybe she'll dig your boldness!
/r/seduction04/08/17 05:39 PM
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In my experience, no. 0 for 3 actually, and I probably wouldn't even consider it again. Then again, my best friend married the girl he dated throughout college when they went to different schools in different states. So take that for what it's worth...
/r/seduction04/08/17 05:16 PM
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thick and curvy girls Lol
/r/seduction04/08/17 04:38 PM
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So then what do you think is the more enticing offer? The question or the statement? I think the statement gives off an air of indifference to the outcome, which is more attractive.
/r/seduction04/08/17 04:17 PM
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Men lead, so don't come at her with the "ball is in your court, you decide" approach. Be affirmative. A decision maker. Live by what you decide and she wants to be a part of it cool. If not, cool. Perhaps you can explain more, because that seems to contradict itself. My view is that making the invitation, and then going about his plans and having fun whether she joins or not is putting the ball in her court. His decisiveness is limited to his own actions, he can't decide anything for her. All he…
/r/seduction04/08/17 03:35 PM
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Not a fan of that guy. All his free material is just incessantly repeated bullshit to get you to buy his product. And if he's not even willing to give a preview of his work, I don't trust that it's any good.
/r/seduction04/08/17 03:08 PM
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Should you approach girls in college? No. You should sit at home and play video games and jerk off.
/r/seduction04/08/17 03:05 PM
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You are being way too impatient dude. You just posted about this same damn thing a couple days ago, you texted her yesterday, and now you're freaking out because she hasn't responded yet. Chill the fuck out. She got your message- she'll either respond or she won't. Nothing you can do to make her respond, and anything you try to do to force the issue is just going to turn her off. Women are like cats. The harder you chase, the more they're going to run away.
/r/seduction04/08/17 02:40 PM
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Perfect. Nonchalant, like you'll have just as much fun with or without her. That's the way to do it.
/r/seduction03/08/17 12:31 AM
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"Hey we're gonna play volleyball this weekend you should come carry the team." That's good... "Hey we're gonna play volleyball this weekend you should come help me carry the team." ...is better.
/r/seduction02/08/17 09:58 PM
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Glad to help. Good luck.
/r/seduction02/08/17 09:47 PM
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I would start by simply inviting her on a day of your choosing. The idea is, you're giving her the opportunity to join you in something fun that you are doing in your life - "Hey, we're going up to the lake this weekend, you should come!" or something like that. If she responds saying that she can't, that's her loss - "Bummer, well maybe next time!" If she responds with some vague, non-committal BS (or just ignores it) then no need to say anything at all. I'd only give her a few opportunities li…
/r/seduction02/08/17 08:34 PM
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I agree with ThePUA_Baddie more than the other guy. You can't just keep inviting her time after time if she never accepts your invitations. You'll over-pursue and that makes you look desperate. You're the one in the position where you have something the other one wants- and it seems like she does want to come over, so the onus is on her to make that happen. You don't want to be practically begging her to come grace you and your lake house with her presence, do you? I would limit myself to 2 or 3…
/r/seduction02/08/17 06:21 PM
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Breaking the touch barrier asap is important. So if it's a girl I'm just meeting and talking to for the first time I'll do a handshake. If it's a girl I already know, or am on a date with (even a first date from online dating) I'll open with a hug.
/r/seduction02/08/17 04:24 PM
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Not much really. I think for most guys, simply coming up to talk to us a clear enough sign of interest. Eye contact, smiling and above all, enthusiasm will make it even more obvious. If you're too shy for that, see the "booty bump" story I shared elsewhere in this thread.
/r/seduction02/08/17 04:20 PM
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Lol the "booty bump" is how one of my good friends met her current boyfriend. She bumped him with her butt as she was walking by, made eye contact and walked away. He didn't get the hint so she did it again later. He got it the second time.
/r/seduction02/08/17 03:22 PM
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Everything. Yeesh that made me want to gag. I commend you for trying but that was really terrible... it's like you scoured the internet for pickup lines and "PUA text game examples" and then copy/pasted directly into your conversation. I know because I've seen those lines, almost word for word, in other places. I cringed when I saw them as suggestions , and I cringed even harder when I saw them in practice here. It comes off as extremely inauthentic and phony. Which makes you look needy and desp…
/r/seduction01/08/17 07:55 PM
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Great post. Guys need to take this stuff to heart because this is, for the most part, the way things are and the way they always will be. Reminds me of something a girl said to me once that was really profound: I was out at a bar alone, and decided to go talk to a random girl who was out with some friends. We had a good conversation and she ended up coming home with me. It was really easy, and she "helped me out" (by making it really easy) the whole way. The next morning she was saying how she d…
/r/seduction01/08/17 05:38 PM
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girl and I have basically talked face to face through FT FACETIME IS NOT FACE TO FACE. That said, I'm going to assume you don't live in the same town, since you are talking about waiting until after your move in day. (If you do live in the same town, better not to wait.) Think of something that would be fun for the two of you to do together (aka a date) in between move in and the start of classes. Ideally a day or two after move in so all of her shit it settled in and she has some free time. Inv…
/r/seduction28/07/17 02:14 PM
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If you're here for sympathy, you've come to the wrong place. Quit it with the self-defeating attitude. The fact that you're acting like a self-pitying little bitch is far more detrimental to your ability to attract women than the amount of facial hair you have. You have limiting beliefs that you need to get rid of. They aren't real, they're only in your mind.
/r/seduction28/07/17 01:48 PM
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Pull her dress up and eat dat pussy. Then take her out for an ice cream sundae.
/r/seduction28/07/17 12:38 PM
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That is absolutely not true the and only thing that it's screwed up is your belief about what's holding back. Trust me, it's not your facial hair or lack thereof that's stopping you from getting girls.
/r/seduction28/07/17 05:26 AM
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It's a combination of age and genetics. And if it makes you feel any better, all of my friends who still can't grow a good beard just look stupid with facial hair anyway, so worry about it.
/r/seduction28/07/17 04:24 AM
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NEXT.
/r/seduction27/07/17 11:24 PM
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So don't watch what you say? If your friends rip on you all the time then either tell them your sick of their shit, start being a relentless dick right back or find new friends. Stick up for yourself dude.
/r/seduction27/07/17 11:23 PM
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When it comes to excuses I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt. How much effort they put into making up for it tells me how sincere they were.
/r/seduction27/07/17 11:17 PM
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Yeah don't be a doormat. Send those barbs right back. Let them know you're not gonna take that shit lying down. Boundaries don't just apply to the opposite sex.
/r/seduction27/07/17 11:10 PM
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Did she suggest rescheduling? If she flaked with out a good reason and didn't mention another time she would be available, I'd move on without even giving her the time of day. If she did contact me again to try to make plans I'd make her come to me.
/r/seduction27/07/17 11:04 PM
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she was giving enoguh "material" to get sexual on text That's fine, you can go back and forth a little bit, but don't be having conversations with her over text. It increases the chances you'll say something that turns her off, and you miss a great opportunity to leave her wanting more. That last part is very important for building attraction. Remember, you're a busy guy with other things to do and other women to talk to. You don't have time to be chatting up one lady all the time. This should b…
/r/seduction27/07/17 04:45 PM
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If you already have a date set up then you don't need to be texting her at all. If don't have a date set up then your texts should be focused on making that happen. Bottom line is that her attraction will increase through in person interactions, not over the phone. Try to do that over the phone too much and you'll talk her right out of liking you.
/r/seduction27/07/17 03:56 PM
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Dance however the fuck you feel like bro. Just let the music move ya and who cares what people think.
/r/seduction27/07/17 03:52 PM
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It doesn't matter that you can't imagine what they've been through that left them with this type of baggage. Maybe they were abused. Maybe they had a string of really shitty boyfriends. Who knows. Fact is, what you described in your post is bat shit crazy. That type of behavior stems from serious emotional problems. And it ain't my job or yours to figure out what those are. But. Their craziness is not the real problem here dude. You are the problem. Because you're hooking up with these girls who…
/r/seduction27/07/17 04:58 AM
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I do have standards and kinda have a feeling some are crazy When I say you need to have "standards", I mean you need to have higher standards. Your standards are obviously low, because you are continuing to fuck crazy chicks even after you are aware of their craziness. You complain about the craziness (unsurprisingly) but you're not doing anything about it (surprisingly). So like I said, the crazy chicks in your life are not a coincidence. You are inviting this situation. This is your fault. Not…
/r/seduction26/07/17 09:10 PM
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Anytime man, glad to help. And again, I cannot recommend those two books highly enough. Reading them (which only took a few weeks) has had a greater impact on my dating life than years of perusing this subreddit and trying to figure things out on my own. You can get them both in ebook form and I guarantee it will be the best $25 you've spent all year. Knowing the stuff in these books will set you so far ahead of the competition, because most guys in college (and even well into their 20's and 30'…
/r/seduction26/07/17 05:13 PM
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one girl even texted me that she a psycho and I should of knew from the start Yeah no shit dude! one girl I still put up with cuz she does give me sex once a week Here's your problem. You're hooking up with these chicks because they're easy. They're easy because they're fucking crazy. Have some standards dude.
/r/seduction26/07/17 12:36 PM
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Well that shit you were describing is not normal. It's not even playing games. It's fucking crazy, is what it is. So how do these crazy chicks keep finding their way into your life? I'm pretty sure it's not a coincidence, and I'm pretty sure you've got something to do with it. What you were describing originally, which you have since deleted, was a level of crazy you can smell from a mile away, and is pretty easy to avoid. So why aren't you avoiding them?
/r/seduction26/07/17 04:31 AM
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Be busier. Fill your life with your own interests. Find hobbies. Workout. Do volunteer work. Learn something new. You won't have time to worry about... how long it's been since you texted her... how long it's been since her last message... Is she busy or is she ignoring me? Doesn't she know I'm waiting?? Why isn't she responding to me??? Oh god! I should text her again!! I need to remind her I exist just in case she forgot!!! She saw your message. She knows. If she has any interest at all, she'l…
/r/seduction26/07/17 03:39 AM
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Sounds like you're fucking around with some batshit crazy chicks dude. I gotta ask, what are you doing to invite these situations? You're the common denominator here.
/r/seduction26/07/17 02:44 AM
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There are two books I highly recommend: Models by Mark Manson (people in this sub swear by this book, and I agree) and How To Be A 3% Man by Corey Wayne Both focus on self-improvement as the means of seduction, but each has strengths in different areas. Models is really good to learn how to be a more attractive man in general just by being yourself (or a better version of yourself), and how to separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to dating prospects. 3% Man is great in particular for …
/r/seduction26/07/17 02:26 AM
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No need to apologize. It's good that your starting down the right path. But. Oh boy. Where to even begin... I'll try to follow up later tonight with some specific sources/material that will be very helpful for you, but for now I'll just suggest googling or searching this subreddit for keywords/phrases that I mentioned above. As for your questions. What you want to know are things like "How do I make her my girlfriend?" and "How soon can we go from zero to committed relationship?" My friend, make…
/r/seduction25/07/17 11:57 PM
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I am just a bit worried that it's maybe geared towards actually making more friends rather than getting girls That's exactly what it's geared towards: making friends and influencing people. It's not called "How To Get Girls & Sleep With Them"... You need to take the concepts it teaches about how to get people to open up you, how to be more liked by people in general, how to be more persuasive/influential, etc., and then merge that with what you already know about seduction. As with any other boo…
/r/seduction25/07/17 07:39 PM
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But B is not gonna take it easy on him for sleeping with A. Very possible, but an important piece of information we're missing is which one came first? I would expect more leeway with B if he started seeing her after he was already seeing A. My advice is... spend more time with B, and you MUST try and get her sentimentally attached to you. Then sleep with her. By giving B attention, A is gonna feel a bit let out and will start running after you because she want some attention Perfect.
/r/seduction25/07/17 07:22 PM
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I second this. OP hasn't done anything wrong, unless he lied to them about it. This might actually work in his favor with Girl A, who is lukewarm. In fact, this is exactly the sort of thing that would get her to start chasing him. So OP, just keep seeing them both until they figure it out, which I assume they will do sooner rather than later. Then your hand will be forced and you'll have to make a decision. I used to be really scared of the girls I was seeing finding out that I was seeing other …
/r/seduction25/07/17 06:46 PM
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No I don't use snapchat and neither does she. Neither of us are much into posting on social media in general, facebook included. I've already identified that as one area where I struggle, she doesn't see all the other stuff I have going on in my life - and far be it from me to brag, humble or otherwise. So unless I'm inviting her to things I'm doing, or it comes up in conversation when we're together, she will most likely have no idea. I do know how powerful that can be though because I've succe…
/r/seduction25/07/17 06:11 PM
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Improve your confidence and self-esteem. Personally, I think I'm the fuckin' man and I know that any chick would be lucky to land a catch like me, because I know the value I have to offer. So when I'm interacting with women I'm into, I see it as their opportunity to let an awesome dude come into their lives and rock their world. I'm the prize, not the other way around.
/r/seduction25/07/17 05:22 PM
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I have done both. The problem is that our social circles don't overlap, so she'll never know that I'm seeing other women unless I tell her. If it comes up naturally in conversation or she asks then I could do that, but I'm not going to go out of my way to let her know - I see that as immature, approval seeking behavior. I know we moved way too fast in the beginning. So since we started hanging out again, I've been going at a pace where I reach out to her every couple of weeks with fun dates plan…
/r/seduction25/07/17 04:58 PM
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The First Commandment: Thou shalt not use thy phone to be her texting/snapchat buddy. The Second Commandment: Thou shall only use the phone to schedule times to see her in person. Failure to follow these commandments will get you a first class ticket to the friend zone. And I hate to break it to ya, but since you've been doing this for a few months, not to mention hanging out in groups with no 1 on 1 interactions (along with your apparent failure to start flirting and escalating), you're probabl…
/r/seduction25/07/17 04:07 PM
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Repeating for emphasis: Be the leader. Never ask a girl out and then say "Great, so what do you want to do?" I like to have some dates ideas in mind before I ask them out, so I can set a definite date, time and place right away. Then asking them out is as simple as "When are you free to get together?" Some guys will tell you that you should say something like "Are you free on ____day?" But I wouldn't do that unless your date plan requires it to be on a specific day. I've dated a lot of genuinely…
/r/seduction25/07/17 03:29 PM
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Treat the ones you do like EXACTLY the same as you treat the ones you don't like. Or to phrase it differently, Don't let the fact that you're interested in them lead you to give them any "extra special" treatment that you wouldn't give to a girl you're not interested in.
/r/seduction25/07/17 03:07 PM
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This is so goddamn important! Guys, if you want to be successful with women, it is critical that you understand this. I know there are going to be some people who want to argue this - and there may be some exceptions, to be sure - but look at this way: following this rule will not screw up your chances to get with the kind of quality woman that you want, but not following this rule very likely will. So put aside your notions of "being an alpha male who does what he wants when he wants" or that p…
/r/seduction25/07/17 02:36 PM
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Pretty much the only time I would not be receptive to a woman asking me out on a date is if I was out on a date with another woman. And even then it would only be out of consideration to my date.
/r/seduction24/07/17 05:47 PM
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Okay if you're a woman then I definitely have more experience dating women than you. Unless you're a lesbian. I've learned from my own successes and failures what works and what doesn't. And funny enough, it seems to be the same lessons that countless other guys have learned from their own experiences. So let's say you meet a guy who you are crazy about, and after a few weeks he starts gushing about how much he likes you and all that. That's fine, because you've already decided what your feeling…
/r/seduction24/07/17 12:54 PM
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You can hang on to this idea of yours if you want, or you can listen to guys who probably have way more experience with women than you do. You are applying your logic - which makes sense to you, a male - to a situation where you need to be seeing things from female's persepective. When it comes to relationship dynamics, that is a huge mistake 100% of the time. You take the advice now or you can learn the hard way.
/r/seduction22/07/17 06:40 PM
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Yes! Precisely. I've made this mistake so many times in the past but it's drilled into my head now lol. If you start bringing up feelings and relationships before a woman is ready, she will get freaked out, she'll go cold, she might reject you. As a guy, the only thing you should concern yourself with is showing her a good time when you're together and hooking up. When she IS ready for that sort of thing, SHE will bring it up. Hint: that's how you know she's ready.
/r/seduction21/07/17 08:03 PM
3

6 months out of an 8 year relationship... this girl's probably not ready for anything serious. So proceed at your own risk. Doesn't sound like you're in the friend zone to me. Sounds like she has at least a workable level of attraction for you. At this point, going slow has probably helped you more than harmed you. But you won't know where you stand until you try to escalate. She might reject you. If she does that then leave her alone (if you don't want to be in the friend zone) and maybe she'll…
/r/seduction21/07/17 07:53 PM
2

You shall not tell her that. Telling her that is immature and means you are trying to illicit some type of response from her, which is, in a way, approval seeking behavior. It means you're needy, which you obviously are. I'm not really going to go into that much further. Just don't fucking do it. The only other think I'll say is that you CAN and SHOULD be making yourself busy. Nobody is attracted to a person who has absolutely nothing going on in their lives, and is just waiting for someone to c…
/r/seduction21/07/17 06:31 PM
2

We'll hold on now. What does "cold" mean to you? Did he just back way the fuck off and stop contacting you as much? Or is he actually rude when you contact him? If it's the former, he just trying to give you what he thinks you asked for. Can't blame him for that. So if that's the cause, then YOU need to set a pace you're comfortable with. Different women like to move at different speeds, and as a guy, it's impossible to know in the beginning. Help us out, ladies. But if you're contacting him and…
/r/seduction21/07/17 06:16 PM
14

Alright dude, spill your guts to some chick you've been seeing for a couple weeks and see how she reacts. Let me know how that works out for ya lol.
/r/seduction21/07/17 05:48 PM
8

In general yeah, but this rule is universal. Unless you like scaring girls away.
/r/seduction21/07/17 05:38 PM
1

You didn't do anything wrong. There's nothing you could have done differently to have a more favorable outcome. That's just the way to cookie crumbles sometimes.
/r/seduction21/07/17 02:55 PM
1

What I feel like I want is an impossible mess of contradiction which tells me I don't actually have a clue. Yup that's exactly what that means. If it helps, try to imagine what your ideal partner would want in their partner, and whether or not you're able to be that person. If you're not, you may need to reevaluate your own needs. And in the absence of experience, trust your gut. Don't let your mind talk you into something that doesn't feel right.
/r/seduction21/07/17 02:52 PM
2

Absolute bush league. This video didn't even need to be made, those few sentences encapsulated it perfectly.
/r/seduction18/07/17 10:58 PM
1

No, I didn't know at first and neither did she. We hit it off immediately, the chemistry was great, the sex was great, and we had a ton of common. I noticed some red flags pretty quickly but I ignored them because it was so much fun hanging out with her, she was always the life of the party. She even had a sweet Mustang GT500 (sound familiar?) Just a really cool chick. She told me some things about her past (family stuff and former relationships) early on that revealed she had a lot of baggage, …
/r/seduction18/07/17 09:37 PM
1

apparently "she does this sometimes when she needs to reset" Wow haha that is way too familiar. She's dropping off your radar (and probably doing to same to everyone else in her life, including close friends and family) because she's going through a period of increased instability and cannot handle that mental stress in addition to the normal pressures that everyone faces in life. Let those warning sirens be all you need to remind yourself to not stick your dick in crazy. You don't want those wa…
/r/seduction18/07/17 07:36 PM
1

Dude. About a year and a half ago I ended a 4 year LTR with a woman who had borderline personality disorder. The warning flags were there from the beginning, and I chose to disregard them. Want my advice? DON'T FUCKING DO IT. STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THIS CHICK. Trust me. It was fun mostly, and the high points were some of the best in my life. It still wasn't worth it, because the lows were a living hell. I am so much happier having crazy the fuck out of my life. If you get involved with her, you…
/r/seduction18/07/17 05:04 PM
1

Probably a part of it is just having gotten out of an LTR and seeking to replace what you lost, but a lot of guys are just like that. I know am sort of like that, I just fall in love way too easily. I used to be a lot worse than I am now though, this is what I think changed that: Over the years (I'm 30) I've dated more and different kinds of women. I had experiences ranging from incredible, to forgettable, to complete fucking disasters. And all those experiences taught me what it is that I'm loo…
/r/seduction17/07/17 11:03 PM
1

I was about to respond but it seems you deleted it so I can't!
/r/seduction17/07/17 04:16 PM
3

she will become jealous. Is that a bad thing? Obviously it is, if you are intentionally trying to make someone jealous (although that, too, can serve a purpose in certain situations... another topic for another day). Mostly it's just a shitty thing to do though. But if she simply has jealous feelings because she knows you're seeing other women but she wants to all to herself, it will only make her try harder to win you over. I recently got a bartender's number, and was in her bar a week later wh…
/r/seduction10/07/17 05:15 PM
1

I'm about to tell you some things that you need to take to heart because you will encounter it over and over and over again with women: You must always play it cool. You cannot allow the little annoying things that women do to cause any ripples in the pond of your life. Women create way more chaos and drama in their lives than is necessary, but as a man, you need to weather that storm. If she cancels on you, you must be indifferent (or at least appear to be). If something like canceling a date c…
/r/seduction10/07/17 04:41 PM
3

For the love of god, don't use the word "adorbs". This needs to be removed from every man's vocabulary starting 3 years ago.
/r/seduction10/07/17 02:51 PM
1

If it was a week ago or more, maybe text the day before. But since his was arranged yesterday, no need to confirm. She knows. And if she doesn't show, you know what to do.
/r/seduction08/07/17 06:38 AM
1

Yeah this is the best and really the only answer. Don't even worry about "what value this demonstrates", a simple thing like this is above that. Just put the ball back in his court and let him shit or get off the pot.
/r/seduction08/07/17 06:35 AM
1

Have you figured out why you had no interest in seeing him again, after initially seeming like the perfect guy for you? You said in a later post that you want to find someone you have more chemistry with, but for a date to last 5 hours over drinks, I'd think there was some chemistry there! The reason I ask is because I'm in a very similar situation. I recently reconnected with a girl from my past, and we instantly hit it off. The chemistry was absolutely electric, and as the date unfolded we lea…
/r/seduction07/07/17 03:24 PM
1

Number 4 is my problem. I rarely can think of enough enough things to say to start and maintain an interesting conversation with a stranger whom I know nothing about. Sometimes there's something about her or the setting in particular that can serve as a springboard, or sometimes we just vibe right off the bat. In that case conversation is pretty easy. But that's rare. Most women you approach are neutral or unreceptive, in which case I just can't think of anything interesting to say. Part of it i…
/r/seduction29/06/17 05:31 PM
2

It doesn't matter how "busy" a person is. If they really like someone and see them as a potential partner, they will rearrange things and make room in their life to see them - MORE than once per month. Period, end of story. If they "only have time" to see you once a month, it's because they don't care enough to make time to see you more than that. No one is THAT busy. Sorry to say, but the only way to lower your investment in her is to move on - which you will most likely have to do sooner or la…
/r/seduction28/06/17 04:52 PM
2

I've only been with one girl who did that and it was kinda weird for me too. But then again she did have actual daddy issues so that may have been what made it weird. Don't know how I'd feel if it happened again.
/r/seduction07/06/17 01:06 AM
1

Well I've got two things to say to that: First, their relationships may seem good from your outside perspective, but you don't know what goes on behind closed doors. It's like facebook, people only show the public their best side, but what you see is not their whole life. Guaranteed, there is a shitty side that you're not seeing, because they don't want you to see it. That's as true for couples as it is for individuals. Heck, even healthy relationships have a shitty side. Second, it's not such a…
/r/seduction31/05/17 07:14 PM
1

I feel your pain man, went through this myself a couple months ago with a girl who checked off nearly every characteristic on my "perfect woman list". One of those rare unicorns... After about a month of the most electric chemistry I've ever felt, deeper connection than I've ever known, best sex I've ever had, I abruptly got a very similar rejection: "I really like you but things are moving too fast, I'm not ready for a relationship, I need to find myself, it's just bad timing, blah blah blah." …
/r/seduction31/05/17 06:31 PM
1

They may be in relationships but that doesn't mean the relationships are healthy with a stable foundation. Most people don't have their shit figured out, but they end up in relationships anyway. Coincidentally (or not) most relationships don't work out in the long run.
/r/seduction31/05/17 03:57 PM
1

Embrace it, dude. There's nothing wrong with being weird. It's part of what makes you an interesting, unique individual. I'm weird. Lots of people are weird. In fact, being weird is pretty normal. Being totally "normal" is boring. Don't change who you are to fit other people's vanilla tastes. Now, if you're socially awkward, that's a different thing. And if that's the case, there's plenty of guides out there to help you with that. Let your freak flag fly, brother.
/r/seduction31/05/17 02:44 PM
2

Yes, absolutely. If you want something/someone, go for it. This applies to women as much as men. There's only two possible outcomes: First, he might say yes - then you got what you wanted! But the worst case scenario is that he says no, in which case you'd be left in the exact same situation you're in right now, and will continue to be in if you're too scared/unsure to take the chance in the first place. Or think of it this way: by NOT asking, your chances of rejection are 100%. You are rejectin…
/r/seduction24/05/17 03:47 PM
2

Not that you'd sound like a creep, but you'd sound weak, unsure of yourself and lacking confidence. Needless to say, that's one of the last things you want. Just go for it when the timing feels right.
/r/seduction15/05/17 04:35 PM
2

Stay on target... do not deviate from your present course. Seriously. She asked where you were staying because her roommate is out of town??? Sounds like she's already invested and all you have to do is not fuck up. Talking to her more before you see her, unless necessary, is just increasing your chances of fucking up. Just play it cool until then and let her imagination build up the sexual tension for you. I might make at least a semi-concrete plan with her if I were you, you don't want her to …
/r/seduction04/04/17 05:22 AM
2

No. No no no. Don't try to trick her into going on a date with you. Be upfront and honest about your intentions. First of all, women will respect and appreciate your directness, and you're less likely to end up in the friendzone because she didn't know what your intentions were. Second, if she's interested in going on a date you, she'll say yes to a proper date. If she's not, then you're not going to get very far in your attempts to escalate on a non-date "date". Just man up. Be confident about …
/r/seduction30/03/17 07:32 PM
1

And now onto instagram... If she only includes the link to it in her description, it isn't because she's saying her "face/tits/ass" should be enough. It is because she is looking for fucking insagram followers. Either way, it's a sign of a vain and shallow person.
/r/seduction29/03/17 06:46 PM
1

I'm guilty of swiping right on someone because they had a hot friend their picture(s). It's not even that I think I'm going to meet their hot friend through them, sometimes it's an accident, just a reflexive swipe right when I see a hot chick. Then if we match it's like "Ah fuck, I didn't want this."
/r/seduction29/03/17 06:42 PM
2

"Dog mom!" "I'll probably like my dog more than you." "Only swiped right because of your dog." Ugh.
/r/seduction29/03/17 06:36 PM
1

Super fit. Huge rack. Plump lips. Revealing photos. Be careful. That might be a tranny. There's a ton of trannys on tinder. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but that's not what most of us are here for. And you could easily swipe right on a tranny if you don't read their profile. Super cliche phrases girls thing make them sound funny and creative, but really they just stole from somewhere else. Phrases like "I just want a guy to look at me the way I look at pizza." or "I need a guy who …
/r/seduction29/03/17 06:27 PM
1

You got a weird perspective on age, man. First off, you are still a young adult. And second, at what point are people "supposed" to stop dating? Not everyone is married by their mid-20's you know, there's lots of people in their upper 20's, 30's, even 40's who are single. Do you think they just go "Well, I didn't get hitched by 26, so I guess my time for dating, sex and romance is over."
/r/seduction10/03/17 02:32 PM
1

You're in your mid 20s, why are you trying to hang out with teenagers? There's lots of people in their mid 20s doing the same stuff as you. I just read an article that said there are more 26 year olds than any other age. Life doesn't end when you graduate college...
/r/seduction09/03/17 01:50 PM
1

Buddy if you think 30 is old, you're going to be old real fuckin soon.
/r/seduction09/03/17 01:48 PM
1

The other commenters are right, about not putting so much emphasis on sex. You're doing good by improving yourself. However, if it's really that important to you - go to bars and lower your standards.
/r/seduction13/01/17 01:35 PM
-2

I don't get how this articles can be posted/upvoted, when it seems as though this "pickup" method is universally despised. That shit is for immature fuckwads, and it only works on insecure women who are desperately seeking approval/validation. To quality women, apply it does not. Don't know why I felt like going all Yoda there...
/r/seduction30/08/13 07:24 PM
12

I stopped reading when he said something like "and you just need to learn this one secret trick to unlock their" blah blah bullshit.
/r/seduction01/08/12 03:38 PM
1

I'll suspend my disbelief for a well-written exposé. Whether the story is true or not, the summaries are right on the money.
/r/seduction25/07/12 10:04 PM
2

I don't know about other cities, but summer in Chicago is a great time to meet women. Street festivals almost, if not every weekend, outdoor concerts, art shows. I've noticed that quality women seem to always having something to do outside during nice weather, whether it's the beach, one of the aforementioned festivals or, going off what you said, dog parks. Perfect time to build up your address book.
/r/seduction25/07/12 05:26 PM
1

I'd draw the line at married/engaged women, but "bros before hoes" only applies to your "bros". If it's some guy you've never met (or know but have no respect for), fuck it, why not? No one is going to going to give you that courtesy if it was your girlfriend, so why should you impose that handicap on yourself for them? Plus, you're kind of doing him a favor. If she's going to cheat with you, it's because she's a cheater. She'll cheat with you, and if you don't, she'll cheat with the next guy. M…
/r/seduction28/06/12 04:15 AM
3

Magnitude!
/r/seduction28/06/12 01:05 AM
4

Is this a Dazed and Confused reference? Either way, I'm watching that tonight.
/r/seduction21/06/12 09:30 PM
3

Juat start acting really needy, text her all the time, include yourself in everything she does, be really nice to her. She'll hate it.
/r/seduction12/06/12 04:39 AM
1

I wouldn't even want to close with a girl if she's that bitchy. I would actually rather piss her off. I am highly principled, to a fault.
/r/seduction01/05/12 05:57 PM
5

Great advice, you are right about everything you said, except one thing everyone should keep in mind: this is not foolproof. I've had a girl call me out on it before, for the exact reason it works most of the time: I didn't give her a choice. She was keen. Try this, but don't forget everything else you've learned here.
/r/seduction13/04/12 12:03 AM
1

Another thing about shrooms, for the best results, go out into nature for your trip, and be alone or with other people who are tripping too. Having a sober person around makes you way too self conscious.
/r/seduction03/03/12 06:51 PM
1

Well keep working at it man. Only you can determone your self worth. I don't know if this will help at all, but philosophically speaking, who's to say they even exist at all? You might be the only person who is real. So fuck everyone else and their opinions, they might not even be real. Also, smoke weed. It will help you understand what the fuck I just suggested and it will also help you think many problems. And now that I'm talking about drugs, I'm not going to recommend this. It I will say tha…
/r/seduction03/03/12 06:03 PM
1

Yes. How does what someone else thinks of affect how you think of you. It's a legitimate question. Are you so easily influenced by what others think?
/r/seduction03/03/12 07:33 AM
1

That's very empathetic, which is something I've lost after having it happen to me a few times. It's not absolute and there are lines I definitely won't cross, but for the most part I know that no one is going to give me that courtesy, so I'm not going to concern myself with it.
/r/seduction03/03/12 06:28 AM
-2

How does their opinion affect your self-esteem?
/r/seduction02/03/12 10:14 PM
4

Why put yourself in his shoes? Screw that guy. If she's not a cheater, then she won't cheat, period. Of she is a cheater, she might cheat with you, or she might cheat with the next guy. Might as well be you. The way I see it, you're just accelerating a painful lesson he's going to learn at some point anyway. You're actually doing him a favor by hooking up with his girlfriend. Now he knows better.
/r/seduction02/03/12 08:45 PM
1

HAH! "You mad bro", he says! The final argument of someone with nothing left to say. I would say no hard feelings, but you've been kind of a prick. Maybe one day if you actually get a girl to go out with you, you'll come to realize the difference between theory, which is perfect, and practice, which is imperfect. "You mad bro", he says... HAH!
/r/seduction25/02/12 05:39 PM
1

Get it through your thick skull that I'm not talking about fancy expensive restaraunts vs cheap restaraunts. I'm talking about an interesting place vs a shitty place. Do really you think you are that fucking charming that there isn't a place on earth you can take her that she won't like? I didn't realize that I was talking to Barney Stinson. Here's my experience: first of all there's me, the constant. I'm going on all these dates, I'm not bipolar or schizophrenic, so that part is going to be the…
/r/seduction25/02/12 05:27 PM
1

I really don't understand how you can honestly believe this. See, the way I see it, you're the one whose ideas are sound- in theory. It's sort of like learning physics or chemistry- in school, you're taught all these theories of how things should behave, and all of your calculations are exact, to the decimal. When you get out into the real world, none of your calculations will ever be that exact because nothing is ever as perfect as it is in theory. Likewise, you are not infallible. As great as …
/r/seduction25/02/12 08:07 AM
1

To be honest, yeah. Although I guess if you're only 18 it's still somewhat excusable. Just a suggestion, I wouldn't trust a dictionary made by an amateur programmer as an all-encompassing source of the English language. Even my iPod will occasionally tell me I've misspelled a word that is indeed a correctly spelled, real word.
/r/seduction25/02/12 07:46 AM
1

Just curious, not trying to be a dick now, is English not your native language?
/r/seduction24/02/12 10:08 PM
1

It's a word that can found in a dictionary.
/r/seduction24/02/12 09:42 PM
1

Aw that kinda hurts. A romantic comedy? I protest. Fyi, I never suggested that the choosing a particular location is a key to a successful date. Of course it's all about you. If you take her somewhere awesome and you suck, the date is going to suck because of you. But if you're awesome and take her to a fun place, you'll be much better off than if you're awesome and take her to a boring place. That's just common sense. Seriously though, OP asked about a few date ideas and all I did was give my o…
/r/seduction24/02/12 09:01 PM
-2

Here's a revolutionary idea for you: you can be seductive AND not a scumbag at the same time...might be too much for you to pull off though. How do you know who he wants advice from? I'm here, and I sure as hell don't want advice from you asshats. So, because I suggest that you use other tactics than treating her like shit, I'm a feminist? HA! That'll be the day. You know, I'm glad there are people like you out there, you make me look really good and I don't even have to try. Edit: furthermore, …
/r/seduction24/02/12 01:50 PM
35

NOOOOOO for the love of god if you are interested in this girl at all DO NOT do that. He's got a few things right (you should have the mindset that you are awesome, she's lucky to be with your, and it's her loss if she rejects you - just dont act this way to her). But digital_rain puts too much stock into advice from pick up "artists" and "players". Any quality women can smell these guys out from a mile away, and if she detects that from you, you're just another pig to her. It's confidence and s…
/r/seduction24/02/12 06:42 AM
0

I suppose added research couldn't do any harm, but it's a good idea. Good enough for me to go "research" it myself.
/r/seduction24/02/12 05:51 AM
1

You done changed the game homey. Seriously though, that article just made so many things click. Not that it's hard to figure out,I'm just glad someone took the time to think that through much more thoroughly than I ever did.
/r/seduction24/02/12 05:48 AM
1

This isn't my personal story, but that of my old roommate many years ago. He was one of those guys that girls literally lose their minds over, they practically throw themselves at his feet with no effort on his part. I'm no schlub myself, but the things I've seen girls do for this guy blows my mind. Anyway, a mutual friend of ours brought over some of his female friends over to pregame at our place and then we all went out. I spent all night talking to one of the girls and flirting with her, and…
/r/seduction21/01/11 10:19 PM
1

Nice is da ass in that thumbnail.
/r/seduction20/01/11 07:15 PM
1

I'm currently fully bearded, going on 2 1/2 months since a shave. But that's just my winter thing, it keeps my face warm in the Windy City. Once it warms up a bit, I'll probably don a Burt-Reynolds-esque mustache for a while before I shave it all off for the summer. Then I'll shave a few times a week until November, when I begin growing my winter fur once again.
/r/seduction13/01/11 11:09 PM
2

It's things like that that make me question whether or not the author has any idea what they're talking about.
/r/seduction29/10/10 03:25 AM
1

If you can "steal her", he already lost her long ago. She was just waiting for a chance to jump ship.
/r/seduction26/10/10 09:28 PM
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