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I've never simped in my life, and your rating system is garbage. If someone is into me, treats me like she loves me and shows me that everyday she's higher than a 6 right off the gun and if someone is pretty but doesn't treat me that way she's no way a 10. I consider the way someone treats me to be a huge part of their value towards me as I have far too much self respect than to have to beg someone to hang out with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:43 AM
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Drugs R bad mmmkkkkkkkay
/r/PussyPassDenied13/10/21 01:11 AM
8

Poor guy. #mentoo
/r/MensRights12/10/21 03:23 AM
33

As long as they consider poking holes in condoms the same.
/r/MensRights12/10/21 02:11 AM
33

This really doesn't have anything to do with a pussy pass. She told a corny joke, so what.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/10/21 05:43 PM
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I don't care about most of what you wrote. What I do care about is the fact that you thought running a steroid cycle at 18 was a good idea. This is terrible advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 02:40 PM
18

You can't. All you can tell them is if they aren't getting the results they feel they should get then they should adjust their expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:35 AM
1

Of course I can appreciate a good looking woman, but although I might find them sexually appealing the idea of doing anything about it is a real turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 02:11 PM
1

No. I’m done with the sex with people I don’t care about part of my life
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 12:41 PM
1

LOLZ
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:41 PM
1

No they haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:45 PM
4

I wouldn't be with someone that can't see nuance. If you're on the poles of either side that usually means you're either too stupid or too indoctrinated to see that issues and solutions aren't nearly as easy as either side presents them to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:40 PM
4

The whole notion that the bar is on the floor for men is a total fucking joke to start with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:31 AM
4

Sex doesn't have to be a part of the marriage but no one needs to stay in that marriage either. If my wife doesn't want to have sex with me it's my right to find someone else who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:29 AM
9

She learned that a big mouth doesn't equal being tough.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/10/21 02:41 AM
5

This is quite the accusatory post from someone who doesn't know the difference between your and you're
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 10:49 PM
1

Oh so now we are switching the goalposts. Men do the majority of the violent crime but they also make up 70% of the victims so miss me with that bullshit thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:27 PM
1

You don’t think women do these things? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:21 PM
2

They are just as fucking whiny talking about murdering an entire gender and all sorts of bullshit. Imagine not seeing all the violent bullshit women pull
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:12 PM
2

She is below my personal standard, and I think he is better looking TBH although I'm straight. I wouldn't think twice seeing either one of them partnered or seeing them together.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 02:58 AM
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If you don’t know why that’s a dumb comment I can’t help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:35 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:34 PM
2

How do you come up with that dipshit conclusion. Saying that there is a HIGHER occurrence of dysfunctional and shit tier children from single mothers isn't saying that it never happens with dual parent households. Do you really not understand that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:37 PM
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Which is what makes single motherhood so fucking toxic. Glad we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:21 PM
1

No because that is a conflation of data sets. First off when you add in made to penetrate it's like 60-40 so not that big of a disparity and second the only way you could make that leap in logic would be if you didn't understand how to read a data set. Even making that comment showcases that unfortunately for you it's the latter of my two options. My condolences on how difficult your life must be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:09 PM
4

Then the majority of women are insufferable cunts who made them that way. See how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:57 PM
1

Where did I say I was anti abortion? Not only that, but I love how people such as yourself totally ignore that birth control is a thing and if you're not an idiot there is an extremely low chance of getting pregnant using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:56 PM
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Anecdotal but I’m in a career where I observe lots of people on a daily basis and when I see one person significantly fatter than the other it’s a woman fatter than a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:37 PM
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They don’t though. You have a selection bias. If I went to FDS and looked at the total bitches there I would conclude most women hate men and are toxic evil people. Most men who have healthy relationships with women aren’t online complaining. Personally I just don’t like entitlement at all and I’ll shit on either gender who starts off with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:23 PM
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Thanks to radical feminism it’s next to impossible to afford 3 kids. Therefore it’s not really an accurate statement. If we didn’t have so many make work jobs and expanded welfare state and broke ass bitches with broods taxpayers need to support the cost of living wouldn’t be as high as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:12 PM
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I’m not really blaming women for low birth rates I blame radical feminists. That’s not women as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:08 PM
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Bullshit they aren’t self destructive. They are all extremely mentally ill and throw massive tantrums and have absolutely zero prospects or value to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:08 PM
1

That’s none of your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:07 PM
1

100%. Stop whining for special treatment and work harder. Either admit that you aren't equal or put in the same work you expect out of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:01 PM
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soooo edgy. Women that say shit like this would be more accurate with a cat on that platter because that's the only living being that will deal with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:59 PM
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I learned nothing because there is a bunch of total dipshits on both "sides" but I knew that already. I also knew that there are plenty of women who act like complete cunty assholes but then cry about receiving the same treatment back but I knew that already too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:58 PM
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What a totally shit take this is. "this one person disproves an easily observable social dynamic" Honestly I hope this is just a troll because if you're really this fucking stupid life must be super hard for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:56 PM
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Yeah I have kids that I live with and take care of in a healthy nuclear family.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:51 PM
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Make sure that anything a partner asks of you they are willing to provide something equal to that themselves. Don't pay for dates like a chump, split the bill and make sure she's a big girl who can take care of herself. It's better to be single than to simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:45 PM
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They are just whining and trying to change laws to favor them yelling things about murdering an entire gender. Imagine pretending that radical idiot feminist women don't exist. They are in around the same numbers and just as fucking bitter as incel men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:40 PM
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This exact same thing applies to all the women in here who piss and moan about men. It's almost as if people should just stop whining across the board and their life's prospects might improve
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:20 PM
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Most women don’t even make minimum wage doing it though. This is like bitching about Jeff Bezos
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:45 PM
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Celebrities aren't at all representative of the general male population. Hollywood is full of drug addicts and degenerates and I wouldn't even think to extrapolate the behavior of those people to people at large. The fact of the matter is the highest income brackets and highest educated people have the lowest divorce rate. From what I've seen being in those circles myself most of the people who you'd think have the most options are the least likely to screw around overall. Sometimes because of f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:24 AM
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Because she still has the state to force you to pay support
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:40 PM
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It’s not a risk for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:35 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:53 AM
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Why? You have even less rights to your kids as an unmarried father than you do a married one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:50 AM
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100%. That’s what I mean when I say it didn’t work out for the people who left. The whole point of getting married young is to put those good years in together and form a bond so that someone will be there to help you or simply just support you as you age. Young women don’t even love you when they are showing interest, they love the idea of you. What they fall in love with is the guy with his shit together that has money and power. No matter who you are as a guy that isn’t the whole picture. Eit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:17 AM
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Because they are willing to fuck and the men they are picking can’t afford to be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:00 AM
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Not at all. I enjoy the irony of your whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:52 AM
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Real for you maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:08 AM
2

Not to mention fat tits feel more like a gut than actual boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:07 AM
2

Wait, you're supposed to cut the meat with the right hand then switch the fork back.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:04 AM
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Men HATE loud and bitchy girls. The men who put up with it are the ones who can't do any better. Any man with options isn't going to deal with your shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:03 AM
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As a guy in her husband's situation, (a very successful guy who gets hit on a lot by younger woman and has been with my wife almost 20 years) he's an idiot. Sure I can be with women who are hotter than my wife is, even hotter than she ever was. What I can't replace is the loyalty, the trust, the feeling she has my back and the fact that she busted her ass along side me to build me up to where I am. Without as good of a woman I would not be as good of a man. The problem for most middle aged succe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:59 AM
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found the bitter shrew.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:44 AM
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Most women THINK they can. The ones I've seen that actually acted on that all wound up with a downgrade eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:40 AM
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You can find someone. If half the rad fem skanks can find men it should be no problem for you. If you're kind and have a good attitude there would be men for sure that would want to be with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:36 AM
0

Imagine thinking this was limited to high school girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:30 AM
0

I could lose half my brain matter and still have twice what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:29 PM
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Yawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:23 PM
1

What I have to wonder is what is this female obsession with controlling the sex drive of men? Constantly whining about porn, when most of these women are thumbing themselves to 50 shades books. It's fucking tired, porn has been around since literally cavemen days, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:11 PM
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When you're so fat that your forehead has rolls. Bitch looks like the Michelin man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:08 PM
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I'm more attractive than you are. Speak for your clown ass self.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:04 PM
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Sociology is clown science to begin with. There is no objectivity and all the fucking wrinkle free brains who buy into this shit couldn't interpret a study if their life depends on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:01 PM
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You're not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:47 PM
0

She probably isn't a 3 to be fair, but I would say a hard 5 is accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:42 PM
3

I think they are disgusting scum yeah. I wish we treated women like this the same way we treat black pill incels, close their subs and drive them off reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:08 PM
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100% agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:12 PM
4

Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:36 PM
8

Men don't argue that way, women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:36 PM
1

The success rate is 50% within 3 years and it goes down every year after. They tell you at least 3 separate times before you get one that you should consider it permanent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:30 PM
3

Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:29 PM
1

Vasectomy is considered permanent. Seriously educate yourself, I’m so fucking tired of explaining this to women who don’t understand basic male anatomy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:00 PM
1

That’s about what I expected
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:57 PM
2

No one needs college barring a few specific fields. For most people college is a fucking scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:23 PM
2

That was never historically accurate except maybe in the Middle East and if you’re the type of dude who literally needs to subjugate your partner in order to be competitive you shouldn’t be dating at all. I say this as a red pill man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:17 PM
1

Says the person whining about my comment. Fuck off douche bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:26 PM
2

The whole point of purge rules is no chill
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:58 PM
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But it's a really fucking dumb one. If you're going to troll at least say something relevant. Just saying dumb shit to hear yourself talk is pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:23 PM
1

Confidence helps you in all areas of your life but doing anything with the expectation that you're going to get girls is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:39 PM
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Only losers believe stuff like this. It's much easier to whine about muh genetics than it is to hold yourself accountable for your shit tier life. Keep whining and feeling sorry for yourself, most of you are average or maybe a little below which means you can get yourself to a place where you are better. EVERYONE has had moments of self doubt, and almost everyone has been fucked over at least once. Grow up and quit your bitching.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:05 PM
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I hope you have the local cat shelter on speed dial.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:59 AM
0

No it's not the RP its more like incels. The female version of an incel is someone that men will fuck but no decent man will date. That is FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:57 AM
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They are the female equivalent of incels. Incels have been ran off reddit and the bitter nasty shrews like the ones in FDS only have vagina to attract a man because their personality and IQ are subpar.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:55 AM
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This is the dumbest fucking thing I've read on this sub. Men are almost all stronger than women are, and most men are taller than most women. We need to start shaming people like you who are dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:54 AM
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You don't work out to impress anyone, you workout so you aren't a weak bitch. Looking good and feeling good help all aspects of your life, regardless if youre with a woman or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:52 AM
3

Just make one up, that’s what women did.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:43 AM
2

Agreed. Looks like in the US we will have their draft dodging asses signed up for the next draft at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:31 AM
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Wishing it were so does not make it so unfortunately for you. Your insults are like the rest of your life, garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:26 AM
1

Man clown? Is this the best insult your smooth brain could hammer out? There’s no affirmation action for shit talk lady, so you’re already at a disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:20 AM
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The better thing to ask a woman is that if women can do everything a man can do why do we still have affirmative action and lower standards for them to meet? If they really are men’s equals they should be able to meet the male standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:18 AM
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That princess thing doesn't happen in ANY healthy relationship because the prince doesn't exist to kiss her ass. He has wants and needs too, and the whole fairy tale fantasy ignores when HE has a bad day or loses his job or needs her to step up and carry the load however that manifests.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:13 AM
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They attract fuckboys and guys just looking for a warm hole because all the guys looking for more pass them by.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:01 AM
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In a relationship, bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:53 AM
1

If you have to play games with what is between your legs it's because you don't have anything worth having anywhere else. FDS is all about restricting access to sex to leverage that desire for personal gain. No one who has other things of value has to leverage their pussy to keep male attention. Restricting access to sex is as much or more about sex than just screwing his brains out constantly. Purposely restricting sex is still using sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:42 AM
1

Lots of the real pretty ones are the worst offenders. They are so used to men kissing their ass that they don't ever worry about having anything interesting to say, or how to treat someone else. That's why it's so entertaining to watch women like that who kept thinking they could "do better" have their youth and looks fade and watch that attention dry up. Then they become bitter because they were "used for sex" when the reality was they are terrible and uninteresting people and no one wanted to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:39 AM
1

lol bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:35 AM
1

FDS is obsessed with sex and controlling sex from men in order to try to get them to do what she wants. They are under the impression that all men care about is sex, because none of them have another tool in their toolbox to try and use to get a man interested in them or keep them interested in them. That's literally their "female dating strategy". They wouldn't have to use what's between their legs to keep their relationship going if they could use what was between their ears instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:35 AM
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No, it indicated that the sort of women who complains about men in general only caring about sex, or always using women for sex. It's not about someone who runs into the occasional asshole, its about the sort of woman who populates FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:28 AM
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Again, that would excuse the occasional man "here or there" but if you are the type of woman who's always being used for sex by EVERY guy you date it's because you have nothing else of value. Fuckboys aren't that abundant, and they are pretty easy to spot. So either you lack all EQ and awareness of others, or you don't have anything else of value if that statement is true for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:25 AM
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That would explain the occasional man "here or there" but if a woman doesn't know a single guy who wants a relationship and is the type to bitch and moan about "all men want is sex", it's because they have nothing else to offer. If you are actually married, then this clearly doesn't apply to you does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:22 AM
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Bullshit. I get called an incel on the regular here which if you knew me IRL you’d think was a super funny joke. Even on this sub by the feminazi idiots running around here. Women throw out the term incel to everyone who dares disagree with them. You can’t tell shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:03 AM
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You know what’s pathetic? A broke ass bitch whining about how cheap men are while begging for a free meal. Get a fucking job and pay your own bills you lazy ass bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:52 AM
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Yeah she is a giant shit sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:48 AM
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Slayyyy queen
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:48 AM
1

She would be better off calling the cat shelter
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:43 AM
1

Leave it to the dumb bitch to immediately make a flippant remark.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:42 AM
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Enjoy your equality bitch. You shouldn't be in government if you're ineligible for the draft.
/r/MensRights01/10/21 01:05 PM
3

That’s not an excuse and it’s about time we stopped cutting women slack for committing sexual assault
/r/PussyPassDenied01/10/21 03:19 AM
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She didn’t even get how you’re not allowed to just touch other people. If someone walked up to her and grabbed her chest she would want them in cuffs and call herself a sexual assault survivor.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/10/21 02:42 AM
0

Nothing desperate about stating facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:10 PM
1

Could be worse, I could be making bitter, unhinged rants on a Reddit debate group like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:04 PM
1

LolZ, whatever makes you feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 11:59 AM
0

No you can't. That absolutely isn't true for any meaningful relationship that has lasted a long enough time. The reason why is you and that other person are supposed to have grown together. My wife and I have been living together for 17 years, we have a routine down and have each others likes and dislikes down pat. There isn't another person on this planet who knows me better than she does and vice versa. Maybe in the beginning sure, and I'm sure I could find someone that is more compatible than…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 05:07 PM
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How is that not true commitment. Having choices but choosing to stay is the definition of commitment. Staying with your wife because you don't think you could get someone else who is just as good isn't commitment, its being stuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 05:00 PM
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I know he thinks he lucked out with me. Here is the thing OP is missing. You find this man's commitment attractive to you because he feels lucky and happy that he's with you. You aren't his good enough, you are his great and he is yours. THAT is the foundation for a happy relationship. If he treated you like the best HE could do you wouldn't be happy to have someone settle for you. No one wants to be a consolation prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:56 PM
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Why does commitment mean "you are the best I believe I can get". For me getting married to my wife is more "You treat me well and I want to build a future with you". Maybe the way you look at relationships is the problem here. Do you not think you can get the sort of woman you wouldn't want to lose? Do you not think a woman exists that you felt would be a great addition to your life? You shouldn't even date anyone that you feel is "good enough" you should always strive for "great fit" and if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:53 PM
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No they won't. You're a woman, not a man and your conclusion is totally devoid of the actual male perspective. He showed less interest in you not because you asked him out, as you said he responded well to that, but because he didn't like you for a DIFFERENT reason. If you are worth keeping around then men would do so. For whatever reason he didn't think you were, but it has NOTHING to do with you asking him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:36 PM
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Welcome to the world of dating. If this was a guy making this comment the most obvious reply from other guys would be " no shit". As a man you never know if the person you're asking out actually likes you back as much you like them. This is such a myopic comment, completely unaware that most men have at least one, many men have several, experiences being strung along or used for money in dating. Imagine complaining about something as a woman that is almost universally part of the male experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 04:33 PM
1

IDK what you mean by "left women are the only bad ones"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 03:04 PM
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Most men who can actually get tons of meaningless sex would rather have a relationship. Even look at celebrity men, most of them wind up getting married many multiple times searching for that relationship. For a high value man sex is as easy, or easier, to get than it is for women. For low value men they want tons of meaningless sex because they can never have it. SO these men aren't the ones out there having sex. The problem is for the high value man that finding someone worth being in a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 02:46 PM
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Wow, this is a total and complete rant. As a high value man I see comments like this as a massive red flag. You need to get some therapy to deal with all this bitterness and instability.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 02:39 PM
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I think being forced to pay child support for your rapist’s baby for 18 years under the threat of imprisonment is worse.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 05:12 PM
4

A real man is someone who performs for women’s benefit.
/r/MensRights26/09/21 07:10 PM
1

Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 04:32 PM
5

LOL what happens when men seek help? They are usually shamed by women for it. Spare me the nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 04:02 PM
8

Imagine believing this in our gynocentric society.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:27 PM
2

Depends on how much he's changed. If he stays pretty much Chad like except he just doesn't cheat she will stay interested. If he becomes totally domestic then yeah you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 02:11 PM
2

Most women SAY they want the husband material guy but in reality what they want is to TURN the FWB guy into husband material FOR THEM. They want the guy they want to fuck who's wild and turns them on to settle down with her. If women are telling you that you're husband material right off the gun then yeah it should be insulting for you because that means you have all the good beta husband qualities but you don't have that initial attractiveness. Always watch what women do, not what they say as o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 12:25 PM
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Haven't had the experiences with men as I'm not bisexual but yes the overwhelming majority of women think that bringing vagina to the sexual encounter is all they are required to do and once that is done their obligation to provide any pleasure is over.
/r/MensRights23/09/21 02:42 PM
3

Damn, she compared some guy touching her arm to you being RAPED and her conclusion was the arm touch was worse? Get out now my guy, this woman is a psychopath.
/r/MensRights21/09/21 11:26 AM
1

It sounds to me like she was beating on him so...
/r/MensRights20/09/21 09:06 PM
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Your whole initial assumption is incorrect. RANDOM women are less desirable in their 30's than they were in their 20's but your wife's value goes up with the longer you've been together if you've invested in and created a healthy relationship. I'm much higher status now than I was in my 20's when my wife and I got together and could attract plenty of beautiful early 20's women. There's no contest between them and the woman who built this life with me though. I wouldn't think of "trading in" some…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:17 PM
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Men need to stop worrying about being shamed for having feelings and admit to being a human being who should be shown the treatment of one.
/r/MensRights19/09/21 07:56 PM
2

No, not all of them and I've see that effect many times IRL myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:14 PM
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So I just want to be clear, your position is no women are attracted to money they just like the status and are willing to fuck men they are not attracted to for money in essence prostituting themselves. That's an awful lot of women who think that way...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:12 PM
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So what you're saying is these women are whores then? If they aren't sexually attracted to them but they still want to date them because of the money, we aren't disputing that, then they are by definition prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:03 PM
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Yes. It's saying you're wrong because women are obviously attracted to money. That's a direct contradiction to your stated claim that they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:51 PM
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Wrong. YouTube has a couple thousand "gold digger" videos showing you are totally wrong. They all start out with a dude asking a really hot girl out just standing on a street corner. She always says no, many times quite rudely like she was offended just by his question alone. Then he gets into his Lambo and she suddenly is seeking HIM out to ask him out on a date. Obviously she wasn't attracted to him, but is attracted to money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:36 PM
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I couldn't care less what or who you like to fuck. What I care about is your piss poor attempt at implying I'm an incel with the "you don't talk to girls in real life" commentary. You don't like pissy and unnecessary comments? Then don't start off by making them because I give as good as I get cupcake. Save the shaming shit for the bottom tier men, it won't work on me.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 11:59 AM
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Ooooh there's that shaming language. I don't think YOU speak to women in real life, or they aren't telling you want you want. The irony here is I'm willing to bet I know better than you do, save your incel bullshit shaming for someone it will work on. I'm out of your league almost guaranteed.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 11:56 AM
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You'd be surprised how many women show up just thinking that bringing a vagina and laying there is enough. Imagine thinking men had the market cornered on shitty sex.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 11:55 AM
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Buuuulllllshit. If you were a man you'd understand. A whole shit load of women want those filthy and disgusting kinks too. Imagine thinking it's just men or mostly men. Excellent sexism.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 11:53 AM
2

This is why cops need guns.
/r/MensRights16/09/21 11:40 AM
2

Hahaha I’m happily married to someone who’s not a bitter shrew.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:33 AM
2

You first princess. Enjoy your cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:19 AM
1

This. 100% this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:14 AM
2

Judging by your comment it would be better for everyone if you didn't like men. Maybe go visit your local cat shelter?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:14 AM
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So the fact that she is making herself look more attractive than she really is using tricks to do so is something I'm supposed to compensate? Sorry to break it to you lady, I too take showers and use soap and deodorant and facial moisturizer and cologne and nice clothes. Where's my compensation for my own personal choice? Oh right, I don't expect others to pay me for my own decisions. The bottom line is if you feel you deserve to be compensated for your time you feel your time is more valuable t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:13 PM
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It’s not abusive if you’re responding to it and putting it in check. Full stop.
/r/MensRights14/09/21 09:54 PM
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No, you're not saying that in a vacuum, it's in direct response to her threat to withhold. If you were saying it by itself sure you might have an argument, but when it's a response to someone trying to use their pussy as a weapon it's just calling the bluff. Not only that, but by saying that you're not threatening someone that if they don't want to have sex with you you will leave, you're saying that if they decide to play bullshit games you'll move onto someone else who won't. Totally different…
/r/MensRights14/09/21 09:27 PM
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Calling someone’s abusive tactic out isn’t at all the same thing as being the one doing it.
/r/MensRights14/09/21 09:12 PM
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It’s not some grand theory, it’s these people throwing a tantrum. If they thought about what they were saying for two seconds they would see what a dumb fucking idea it is because it would never work. There are certain women who try to use vagina to get their way either by the promise of vagina or by threatening to take it away, but it’s only power over you if you let it. When a girl I was dating would say “if you don’t do X you’ll be jerking off for a while” I would always remind them that I th…
/r/MensRights14/09/21 11:17 AM
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I like that I’m going to use it.
/r/MensRights14/09/21 11:04 AM
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It’s basically them saying that you only care about men’s issues because you’re trying to get a man to date you. In their world you can only care about yourself, because that’s what they do. They don’t have the empathy or emotional courage to care about injustice for injustice sake.
/r/MensRights14/09/21 03:19 AM
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I’m surprised they didn’t call you a “pick me” that’s their usual insult to women who see basic common sense. No you’re not crazy, this is men’s experience with being gaslit over talking about our issues. It’s pretty commonplace sadly.
/r/MensRights14/09/21 03:15 AM
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*Politicians. Republican has NOTHING to do with it. Ask rapist Billy boy Clinton or Joe Biden
/r/MensRights13/09/21 10:37 PM
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What legitimate political organization do MRA’s even have? What university has a “men’s studies” department? False equivalence is false.
/r/MensRights13/09/21 05:26 PM
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I feel like the biggest problem with feminists is the “good” ones let the shit ones speak for them and run their organizations. Therefore the generalizations in here are valid.
/r/MensRights13/09/21 03:58 PM
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The unattractive ones are treated better than your average man, just slightly so. They are treated worse than chad but leaps and bounds better than a non desirable man.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/09/21 02:04 PM
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Funny how women ALWAYS wanted it listed that they are a woman when they perform some mundane accomplishment but want their identity scrubbed when they fuck up. Outstanding.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/09/21 01:51 PM
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I’ve thought pretty much the same thing. Even mothers of sons now are teaching them to distance form women much in the way men teach their little girls to be wary of men
/r/MensRights13/09/21 12:37 PM
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It's a long time coming, and the real reason feminists don't want shared custody as that means little to no child support.
/r/MensRights13/09/21 02:17 AM
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Outstanding
/r/PussyPassDenied13/09/21 02:11 AM
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So what? He was literally trying to leave and they attacked him.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/21 10:38 PM
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All the context I need is that he was trying to back away and two women were running after him striking him therefore making his actions self defense
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/21 10:36 PM
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And the two simps running after him at the end is lovely too. Those women clearly got what was coming to them.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/09/21 07:18 PM
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I skimmed if I’m being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 03:21 PM
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This whole thing reads like a total slander hit piece on the red pill which is woefully inaccurate and even to the level of being a comedy interpretation of what you imagine the red pill to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:07 PM
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Oh I was thinking more that being the mandatory penalty. Like when you're convicted of murder you get X years and it can't be lower than that.
/r/MensRights10/09/21 08:32 PM
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Nope.
/r/MensRights10/09/21 06:30 PM
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As many years in prison as you lied.
/r/MensRights10/09/21 06:26 PM
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I don't think it's men "pushing this dynamic" I'm in my 30's and I get way more female attention now than I did when I was in my 20's. Women are way more interested in me now than they ever were. It's not a meme, it's just reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 02:05 PM
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Nah, you belong in here too. If you see that men are legally and culturally disadvantaged due to the current state of western society you belong in here.
/r/MensRights09/09/21 12:57 AM
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Oldie but a goodie.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/09/21 07:32 PM
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That's not at all true. Imagine being this fucking dumb.
/r/MensRights07/09/21 05:03 PM
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I think I don’t want to watch someone’s video. What happened to the good old days of having articles.
/r/MensRights06/09/21 11:40 PM
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I would never send hogitha here a picture of my genitals.
/r/MensRights06/09/21 12:46 PM
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No they are reliable but not safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 10:17 PM
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They do exist but they come with side effects like depression and endocrine problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 10:14 PM
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Since when do men not talk about their lack of birth control options? Most of the men I knew growing up would have LOVED a male pill. That is literally the end of trapped into pregnancy for a man, and if you can get a male pill or vasalgel men would be in much better control of their own fertility. I don't know any man who doesn't want this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:48 PM
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Referring to things as "feels" is most commonly used online in a derogatory manner. I didn't have to assume anything as your verbiage is unnecessarily hostile and mocking. I don't see mocking in everything, why are you trying to gaslight me this hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 04:31 PM
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You acknowledge, then DISMISSED his points in favor of your own narrative. You are not right here, and you are not a man so you don't get to speak for us. Your job is to sit here and listen when corrected. Unless you want me to tell you how to handle your next period, LISTEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:56 PM
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Why do I keep doing what? I'm referencing women who have sued and attacked male only spaces. Let's start here, do you deny this has happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:50 PM
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Even your last sentence is worded in a somewhat mocking way. Can you acknowledge that men's feelings are real without trying to diminish or mock them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:48 PM
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My male friends have never given me a hard time for anything I’ve shared in seriousness. Women OTOH have almost always made me sorry I expressed vulnerability by using that as fuel to win an argument later or bringing it up in a mocking or hurtful way in front of me in mixed company.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 11:41 AM
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So because you’ve never had that desire there has never been a lawsuit to make male only spaces mixed gendered?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 11:33 AM
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No you’ve ignored what was told to you and inserted your own narrative instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 11:32 AM
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Because women police and attempt to shut down any system of male on male support that men have. They try to worm their way into every single male only space under the guise of "equality" places where men historically could confide in each other without the threat of a woman mocking them for their faults and insecurities. Then the icing on the cake is after all these male only spaces have been dismantled we get women like you on here asking "wHy don't MeN sUpPoRT eAcH oThER"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:11 AM
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LOL the guy accuses you of minimizing male emotions and stories and that you don't take men at their word. Right on cue you call him triggered (attempt to emasculate him) and say you don't believe him ( outright calling his experiences wrong then throw in a sarcastic thank you. Honestly you couldn't have better proven his above post true if you intentionally tried as you absolutely followed his bulleted point list to the letter in your snide and sarcastic reply. Do you really have this little se…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:08 AM
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You just ignored everything he said and made it about some bad behavior. Why can't you admit women use this tactic when the man's insecurity or fear is not a character flaw? Oh I get it, you think ANY insecurity or fear a man has is a failing of his. So a man who's insecure about his dick size should just not be such a loser and grow a bigger dick, or a man who's insecure about his intelligence or standing should just stop being such a dumb shit and learn stuff. Gotcha. Way to prove dude's point…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:00 AM
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This is total bullshit. Using someones vulnerability against him is more like "oh remember that time you cried, what are you a weak little bitch?" "what sort of a man has a problem with X". "If you weren't such a pussy or failure you wouldn't have had a problem with X" It's not about "identifying flaws" which is complete nonsense its about using totally normal moments of weakness to emasculate and mock a man in order to win an argument and it happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 02:54 AM
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She looks like Toxie the toxic avenger from the comic. Who cares what she thinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 01:18 AM
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I'm good on sexual harassment suits or losing my job after we break up. That is an incredibly bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:47 PM
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Citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 05:20 PM
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Lol those who can’t always see things that other people do regularly as impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 05:03 PM
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Good thing your belief isn't required to make it true huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 04:21 PM
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This won't exactly be a post to change your view, more a comment to say no shit man. This advice applies to literally everything. Do you take investing advice to someone that is constantly broke and living paycheck to paycheck? Diet advice from someone who's 600lbs? You always want to consider the perspective of the person giving the advice before taking it, because anyone can talk about what you should do but actually knowing if that advice is any good isn't required to give it. ​ I'll even tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:45 AM
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Nah I don’t think so honestly. The group that screams the loudest is always the most heard and that’s true for happy/ unhappy marriages. You don’t hear from all the healthy couples because they aren’t out there complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 05:21 PM
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Men do that all the time, and not only that but saying sex is an important part of a relationship is not the same thing as saying sex is the ONLY important thing in a relationship. That’s absolutely a strawman because you’re responding to arguments I didn’t make. Argue honestly or move on, I don’t have time for this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 05:18 PM
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Citation needed on the “most men marry for sex” comment. Stop strawmanning me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 05:08 PM
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To the person with the option and that means the SEX is of low value to that person NOT that the person is. Don’t debate me over things I didn’t say, if you don’t understand something ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 05:04 PM
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Who said that? Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 04:56 PM
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Who said it was? Clearly I was talking about fairly regular offers for casual sex from women other than my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 04:35 PM
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It is readily available to me, I’m married and don’t cheat because I have 0 desire to. When sex is easily available it becomes lower value.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 01:36 PM
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You start out with the answer to your own question by saying 2/3rds of women in the US are overweight or obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 12:17 PM
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Wut? Are you really comparing using the Taliban to ignore violent women? Let’s talk about in the first world. Found the whataboutism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 11:29 AM
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Just like I thought, denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 11:26 AM
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And I answered it. There are tons of violent women running around and pretending there isn’t is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 11:16 AM
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Tons of violent and toxic women exist we as a society are just much more likely to excuse their crimes or minimize them. Are you saying that women don’t rape and murder? Or are you saying that the ones that do don’t matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 11:08 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 02:34 AM
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Radical feminist mantra is the same level.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 02:01 AM
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“Genuine skepticism reduces anxiety” Very true. If you’re not putting women on the pedestal and instead asking yourself what’s in it for them with an objective eye you’re less likely to walk into a toxic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 01:33 AM
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I grew up watching her show, I agree she is very informative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:55 PM
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Maybe you should try sucking dicks if you think vagina is so icky my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 03:17 AM
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It looks like the guy she got was looks wise her equal. Neither one of them is any prize, and she looks to have settled for what she could get. There is no strategy involved there, she just took what she qualified for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 04:38 PM
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Good. This isn’t even half as hurtful as it was for him finding out she did him like that. Maybe a little taste of her own medicine will keep her from being such a whore next time.
/r/PussyPassDenied07/08/21 12:41 PM
0

Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:11 PM
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OR she's below average. Everyone wants someone at least as good as themselves, or more realistically slightly better. So if you're targeting average guys then chances are you see yourself as average or slightly below average so a guy on that upper end of the average scale is their version of a Chad. They aren't going after ripped, hot and rich men because those men don't even see those women as potential prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:11 PM
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I'm 5'10" and my best friend is 6'4" and I got more attention than he did when out together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:05 PM
1

That says more about you than it does about my story.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:02 PM
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Bingo. It won’t be a secret and when they ask if you want to go back to their place it’s as clear as it can be. Every guy I know has tons of these stories if they are the sort of guy that’s good with women. I say your definition of Chad is spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 04:38 PM
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No that’s what it is, not because I do but because it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 04:02 PM
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That’s switching the goalposts for one. I’m giving you situations where I’ve not been the one to “put in the work” at all yet still got laid. Then when i mention it you say “no not like that”. Secondly it’s happened at the grocery store and many other places. I get hit on at random fairly frequently and many women indicate interest fairly often. Enough to call it a regular thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 03:19 PM
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I’ve done that before and it has worked. Several of my friends have done that as well. If she’s giving you the I wanna fuck eyes from across the bar you’re good. Plus I’ve been openly hit on tons of times, women walk up to me minding my own business and chat me up occasionally. That’s pretty effortless to go with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 03:11 PM
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I’ve never had to lie or exaggerate to get laid. You don’t see the chad part because you’re not chad. I’ve been married a long time and even still I could just make a phone call or shoot a few different women a text saying “what’s up, wanna hang” and I’ll be getting laid. Joking around with people and having a good time isn’t lying or misrepresentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 03:09 PM
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Who cares, like why make such a big deal about it? If men are expected to be the pursuers then shit like this is gonna happen. I’ve had plenty of women do this sort of cringe shit to me personally. It happens.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 03:05 PM
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I came up blue collar, started from the bottom of the bottom and there have been women interested in me every step of the way. Lots of women that go for blue collar guys don't like white collar rich guys, it's a totally different subset of women that are interested in you. It's not that those women are prettier or somehow better either. My wife got with me when I didn't have shit and we built it together. I don't think I would have became the man I am today without her help honestly. Lots of wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:05 PM
2

Wow that is pretty disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:13 PM
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How is this any different for men? We have entire communities of men who are bitter as hell that Stacy won't fuck him and refuse to settle for the 5-6 themselves. Tons of dudes refuse to settle for the woman they are "qualified" for themselves too. I'm struggling to see how this is a unique thing to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:27 PM
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You repeating what I said was a perfect setup? It wasn’t a setup it was a showcase of your inability to come up with your own comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:00 PM
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I know you are but what am I. Good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:21 PM
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No I ignore it because it's nonsense and I gave very detailed reasons as to why I thought it was nonsense. I said men are the ones who usually say it because they are, but that wasn't the reason I gave for disagreeing with it. Either refute my stated arguments or leave me be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:17 AM
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I don't need one. Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:09 AM
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Yeah I did
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:48 PM
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Cite your sources. I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:10 PM
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I’m a man
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:10 PM
1

What stats do YOU have backing up your initial assertions? Let’s start there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 08:18 PM
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A misunderstanding. Misconception. Attributing the incorrect meaning to something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:48 PM
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Yup someone with a victim mentality would get that takeaway. I get real lucky a lot my guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:08 PM
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I look forward to you talking about how much of a baller you are to people who made more in 1st quarter than you will this year. I got a big kick out of that. I’m the sort of guy who is your bosses boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:03 PM
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Imagine thinking I’m trying to compete with you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:59 PM
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Yeah, your comments are pretty entertaining. The expert level "one good manning" you're doing never gets old.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:20 PM
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lol six figures, watch out we got a baller over here. The funny part is you're calling "men like me" a loser when I out compete you in literally every category. You know what kind of people need to constantly compare themselves to other people in order to try and make themselves feel better? Losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:19 PM
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So no sources or studies to back up your claims only shit tier anecdotes. Gotcha. Well here are some sources for my claims, since I'm not making them up like you are. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-psychiatrist/article/domestic-violence-is-most-commonly-reciprocal/C5432B0C6F8F61B49A4E2B60B931FA07 https://wentworthreport.com/2017/01/08/rate-of-domestic-violence-highest-in-lesbian-relationships/ Let me know if those aren't enough for you, I can get more. But before you do, you better …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:17 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. I was completely wiped out in the market crash of '08. I had less than nothing, no job, lost my home and had a wife and young children. I even attempted suicide. I grew up in an abusive household, got beat and abused fairly regularly. The difference is I decided I wanted to make my life what I wished it was and busted my ass every single day for years on a never ending quest for self improvemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:15 PM
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I think that this is mostly fabricated and stuff that only really exists in the minds of the men who say it. First off, most people in general aren't the topic of conversation in anyone else's world to any great degree. People are all the heroes in their own stories, and everyone is largely focused on themselves and what they need to do. So when you say that "these men are disregarded" everyone is disregarded for the most part by everyone else. Men, women, children are all largely ignored on a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:10 PM
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I think it's not really because it raises men's expectations on women, instead it gives them an alternative outlet for sexual gratification so the opportunity cost of real sex is lowered overall. If women want to keep raising their expectations on men many of them, especially the ones would would have to try the hardest because they aren't rich or excessively good looking, decide that the cost to play is just too high and fire up their laptops and jerk off instead. Just like in any business nego…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:53 PM
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Citation needed. Most domestic violence is reciprocated and in cases where it isn't a woman is the aggressor 70% of the time. The lowest incidences of DV is in homosexual male couples and highest is in lesbian couples. All of these things stand in direct contradiction to your total fantasy land where you're desperate to be a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:49 PM
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TFW you realize the OP here is a woman...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:43 PM
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That doesn’t even make sense. How is you using getting pussy as a metric of success a dream of mine? Do you even think about the shit you write?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:25 PM
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Your victim mindset is super toxic. Whether you think you can or you think you can’t, you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:05 PM
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I’m not the one who gets laid so infrequently or has to work so hard to have that happen that I think it’s a metric of success. You do you my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:02 PM
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Normally in my experience the unfuckable men are the ones who go out of their way to put down the other men. Everyone can see through your one good man syndrome my guy, no one is buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:39 PM
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Says the person in the group who’s entire purpose are these sorts of debates. Imagine making such a dumb comment. If you don’t want to hear posts like this, aka the entire point of this sub, I suggest unfollowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:28 PM
1

Women raping men account for 40% of all rapes when made to penetrate is added to the definition. Maybe we can get them some robots too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:54 AM
9

Less than 10% of the US population makes 6 figures.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 02:49 AM
3

You assume that actual women fulfill these needs for the majority of men now. Most men get willing consent but a good number of women feel that just being present in sex is their only responsibility in the bedroom. I think that sex robot AI will be able to mimic a greater level of enthusiasm for sex with that man than they are currently getting from women now. Will it be enough for them to be satiated, I couldn't tell you, but it would most certainly be an improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:52 PM
2

She wants someone whos a sensitive and caring guy but not a pushover, there's a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:19 PM
2

It depends on the tax rate doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:48 PM
1

The problem is what is and what isn't considered PUA tactics. Lots of the dating coaches don't have a scheme and most of their advice is what I would consider common sense. Wearing clothes that fit, taking pride in your appearance, working on your confidence talking to people and not taking rejection personally is advice that would be just as effective given by a dating coach as it would be given by a CEO to an aspiring business leader. These guys are lumped in with people that have some bullshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:43 PM
1

For me personally if I was every to become single again it's something my partner would have to accept too. I've been with some drop dead gorgeous women. Pure attraction isn't the metric I use for a companion because if my marriage taught me anything it's that physical attraction is important but not even top 3 with partner selection. The law of diminishing returns applies to physical attraction big time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:27 PM
4

The hyper masculine man was never about female preference anyways. It was about male preference. Just look at GI Joe, or 80's action movies. All those dudes were roided out peak alpha men. You know how much women hate those movies? Ask my wife lol, she isn't and has never been a fan of those guys. The sensitive man has always been a jerk off fantasy for women and that's how "chick flics" have always worked at least as long as I can remember. The super exaggerated ultra tough guy has never been a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:24 PM
3

That's the thing that most anti Mgtow people don't seem to get. Most of the guys are like you, they aren't stupid and they are willing to do whatever they have to do to maximize their freetime and leisure. They aren't going to put in the shit load of overtime working ball busting jobs, if they are every dollar of that money gets saved and you only get a few years of that work out of the guy before he dips out of the workforce. It encourages all the productive men to be less productive because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:16 PM
2

Not when that tax is so high that all that extra effort is wasted in taxes. If you start scalping these high earning men to the income level of what they would make if they didn't work so hard that's what they are going to do. If you make a 50% tax rate for the 150K guy which takes him down to 75 he's just going to work part time and make the 75. Why would I work 50 hours a week for 75 when I can work 30 for the same amount kept?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:13 PM
1

There's nothing forcing men to date anyone. In fact, most of the problems men have in the dating sphere are because of men who date women they know they shouldn't. Throw back the trash. No one cares nearly as much as you think they do about how much "experience" a man has. The red flags are all about how you present yourself. You could give them off if you've dated tons of girls or if you've dated very little.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:06 PM
2

For the same reason why women give other women hate for dating men that are broke or seen as low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:49 PM
9

The whole waiting to have sex thing is pure nonsense. I fucked the overwhelming majority of the women I dated on the first date. That was the most common for me, and I'm including my wife of 14 years in that number. Men don't dump you for putting out on the first date they dump you because they weren't interested in you for other reasons that they may or may not have known before they fucked you. If you think about your reasoning for more than two seconds it sounds pretty stupid to even postulat…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:31 PM
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The last one doesn’t realize it’s because women are free to do any role they want but masculinity is defined by service to women.
/r/MensRights12/07/21 11:21 AM
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No because the 1 in 5 rape thing is not true and feminists exaggerate horrible things like rape by conflating “feeling uncomfortable” with rape. In fact, that’s where that statistic came from. A study that asked women if they ever felt uncomfortable and counted that under the 1 in 5. That is disgusting and a gross misappropriation of statistics.
/r/MensRights12/07/21 02:20 AM
1

You don’t think that any of the men they sleep with catch feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:19 PM
1

Yeah because “yourbrainonporn” is surely an unbiased and peer reviewed site lol. If that were true then there is no safe level of chocolate or praise or exercise because any level of these, that all have the same dopamine release, are instantly addictive. Yet we know this is bullshit and anyone who actually understands the brain science you’re running around quoting would tell you that. There is another component to addiction that this shoddy research doesn’t address.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:49 PM
0

But watching porn occasionally is not porn addiction. That’s where your argument becomes a fallacy. You’re declaring all use to be on the same level as someone watching hours a day. You eat cake and it releases the same dopamine but if you’re not pounding that shit down you’re not over eating. It’s lazy and a classic example of correlation not equaling causation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:32 PM
1

No it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:12 PM
0

This is dumb, any behavior can be destructive if done to excess. Porn isn't any worse than a whole list of rather common things and thinking that it's at all equal to peak level entitlement is truly next level dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:10 PM
5

So it's fine for women in their 20's to sleep around but not men in their 30's? lol no double standards there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:02 PM
1

Nope. Changing your physique is actually real change. It’s not fake
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:34 PM
1

The overwhelming majority do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:33 PM
1

Most gay and bisexual men don’t wear makeup either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:21 PM
1

They are an extremely isolated case that doesn’t hold true for the Rest of the entire world so it’s an irrelevant example
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 08:44 PM
1

Spare me. For every so called oppression women have faced historically there has been a corresponding one for men. The only difference is we still openly discriminate against men in the western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 05:36 PM
2

More and more men are catching on to the grift every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 05:35 PM
2

ok
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 05:26 PM
1

Bullshit it’s not to impress anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:57 PM
1

Call it whatever you want but shape wear and caked on makeup is just as big of a lie as pretending to be richer than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:54 PM
1

Just because all women or most women are that insecure doesn’t make it not insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:45 PM
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I’m not at all angry at women and my post equally applies to fake men. People just aren’t used to women being held accountable so it seems like I’m attacking you by doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:41 PM
1

If she actually took care of herself she wouldn’t need the makeup and shape wear so the same argument you made for why it’s worse for the man equally applies to the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:40 PM
1

They are the same level of pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:38 PM
0

If you don’t know the difference between taking a shower and altering your appearance with paint I can’t help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:35 PM
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If you don’t know the difference between taking a shower and altering your appearance with paint I can’t help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:34 PM
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I’m not though, and that’s why I might as well open a salt mine for this comment section. I think my post is hitting way too close to home.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:02 PM
1

Where did I say they shouldn’t be allowed to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:58 PM
-1

Irrelevant question is irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:56 PM
-2

I’m not at all worked up though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:55 PM
2

Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:14 PM
1

If it wasn’t to deceive then the woman wouldn’t need to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:10 PM
8

Western society
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:09 PM
0

We should consider a woman lying about her looks the same as a man lying about his income, that’s my whole post
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:18 PM
0

You shouldn’t judge based on someone’s income either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:13 PM
1

Ironic coming from a FDS member
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:42 PM
1

Ironic coming from a FDS member
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:42 PM
1

Said the bitter single lady to the happily married man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:42 PM
0

Said the bitter single lady to the happily married man. Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:42 PM
0

Said the bitter single lady to the happily married man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:42 PM
1

Grooming what you have is different than changing your appearance artificially
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:41 PM
1

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:25 PM
1

What’s “more common than I think”. What percentage of men are out there wearing makeup that makes them look different than they would naturally?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:21 PM
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We shouldn’t cover ourselves in artificial chemicals to alter our appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:20 PM
1

Lol I don’t have to pretend, I’m pretty content with what I make and am married and have been for over a decade. I’m not a female incel who’s entire online identity is whining about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:19 PM
-1

Judging by the responses I’m getting there’s some real geniuses in this group. People who have to read other’s comment history or reply with single emojis are big smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:10 PM
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Spoiler alert, I don’t care what you want. Why are you so big mad over me spitting facts?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:08 PM
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They are both the same, that’s the point of the post. You’re arguing against a point I didn’t make.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:57 PM
1

It’s dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:55 PM
0

Lol it’s exactly the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:54 PM
1

They are gender specific to an overwhelming degree. Probably 80% of women wear makeup and 50% wear shape wear and like 2% of men do these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:44 PM
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Doesn’t matter if most men do it, just that it’s the moral equivalence for lying about your appearance via makeup. All that means is more women lie about their status than men do, it doesn’t at all change or invalidate my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:40 PM
1

Designer clothes, fake jewelry, anything that could make it look like you're richer or more successful than you really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:37 PM
1

What if the guy is looking like a baller for HIM because he likes pretending he's successful after all most women would rather have a normal guy right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:35 PM
2

Taking care of your skin and artificially altering the appearance of it are different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:35 PM
3

I think this comment was sarcastic...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:31 PM
1

And that's why you have the moniker on here that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:30 PM
0

The point isn't that we think your eyelids are purple it's that you're hiding what you really look like. Shapewear is total bullshit, because it changes your shape and hides all your rolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:29 PM
1

So totally altering your appearance isn't misleading but insinuating you have more money than you do is. LOLZ no double standard there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:29 PM
0

They are uglier than they present themselves to be, but maybe they are still better looking than the average woman without the makeup. Then again maybe not, there is lots of makeup/ lighting and photoshop in modeling. Also being a model is much more about body type than facial appearance anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:27 PM
0

What I do or do not jerk off to isn't really any of your business or your concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:21 PM
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I love posts like this because they don't stop to ask themselves the most obvious question here and instead declare women better. The obvious questions is why should men try hard? What's in it for them? Right now, for most men, busting his ass isn't worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:21 PM
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Your last paragraph tells the real story. There's no point in trying for the average man because the average woman thinks she is owed something simply because vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:17 PM
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WUT lol? Women are helped at literally every turn, you get preference points, special scholarships, women's only programs and institutions and lower standards in every program men dominate. You see all this, and blame MEN for not being as greedy as women are? Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:16 PM
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All of society is set up to cater to women, so to say that women are doing better is disingenuous at best. When we stop giving women an extra hand up at every turn we can see if they are doing better or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:12 PM
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It's not at all arbitrary. Using lotion to improve your skin isn't lying about your skin just like going on a diet isn't lying about being fat. Getting a haircut works with your natural hair but there is nothing natural about putting on makeup. There is nothing natural about fake eyelashes or contouring to make your features look different than they actually do. Just like getting a better job isn't lying about how much money you make but claiming you have a better job when you don't is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:10 PM
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Because everyone does basic grooming. There is the standard level of looking and then there is altering your appearance by putting on artificial chemicals and hiding your actual looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:01 PM
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Basic grooming no, dying it yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:57 AM
-2

Yeah they are, subconsciously at least. They are lying about their appearance to make themselves look more attractive than they otherwise would. You know what women don’t, the ones who aren’t wearing makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:52 AM
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This one doesn’t. Men need to see that the way women see men lying about ballin.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:46 AM
1

That says more about your standards than it does anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:40 AM
1

Any way of lying about your status, it doesn’t have to be limited to renting a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:39 AM
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So holding women accountable for lying is the same as hating them? I guess when we hold men accountable for lying we hate them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:23 AM
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When you alter your appearance you’re lying period
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:20 AM
1

Lol Korea? That’s what you’re going to pull out to try and win? Nah, not buying it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:19 AM
-3

Lol way to minimize
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:18 AM
0

About lying about how good they look
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:17 AM
0

Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:30 AM
1

I have a fade, and I'm not gay so it's comprised of all my real hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:11 AM
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You don't know what she ACTUALLY looks like just like you don't know what the dude who's driving the Tesla really has in his bank account
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:10 AM
-3

Um, no men besides gay men are out there getting weaves or wearing makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:02 AM
2

99.9% of men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:57 AM
-2

I'm not watching your video. Make a point or don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:55 AM
4

Do men by in large wear that shit now? Nope. Pulling some shit from 300 years ago isn't exactly proving me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:50 AM
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They are equally pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:27 AM
0

Which is why I'm here to tell them to up those standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:06 AM
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Because my comment was about how it's an equivalent action not whether or not either strategy was viable
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:59 AM
1

Again, that's not the purpose of this comment. I'm aware and agree men could look after their appearance more. That doesn't have anything to do with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:56 AM
2

It's not at all common
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:55 AM
2

Nice goalpost switch.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:54 AM
2

In other words stupid question was stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:54 AM
4

What difference would that make? How is that remotely the same to putting bondo on your face?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:52 AM
-1

LOLZ all the "victorian look" things didn't tip you off to the fact that these aren't commonly used styles anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:51 AM
4

Wrong. I actually own some expensive men's suits. You know what's curiously absent in them, shoulder pads. Imagine that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:50 AM
4

The hair on my face grows by itself. I don't buy it at the store.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:49 AM
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It's not at all popular in men's suits. You're a liar or you know nothing about expensive men's suits. Shoulder pads was a trend in WOMEN'S suits
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:47 AM
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Au contraire. Someone who does know how to dress well knows how influential the right set of clothes can be. So it's pretty much the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:46 AM
2

Then the man is doing the same, he's changing his appearance which changes how people perceive his wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:44 AM
2

Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:43 AM
0

What kind of man wears a suit with shoulder pads? Those are usually in female garments lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:42 AM
3

Well for a dude that tries to pump up his status like you do with makeup maybe the car routine isn't a hassle for him at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:39 AM
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You can do what you like, me pointing out the obvious isn't calling for change.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:38 AM
-5

Okay? no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:37 AM
1

That takes a minute or two. You must have some bad experiences with renting cars or shitty credit. Plus you can rent a car for several days, which there's 0 time the second or third day whereas the makeup takes the same everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:36 AM
4

Solution to what? I made a declarative statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:34 AM
4

I can rent a car in 10 Min online my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:31 AM
7

There are professional advantages to men looking more successful than they are too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:30 AM
1

Excellent argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:30 AM
6

Not to get good at wearing the makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:29 AM
3

Women aren't pretending to be someone else when they wear makeup. They are pretending to be more attractive than they are in reality, so yes they are pretending to be someone who's not quite so ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:26 AM
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That doesn't matter as my argument is just that it is equivalent having a woman lie about looks and a man lie about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:12 AM
0

You don't look better though, you pretend to look better. Just like me putting on a Trump mask doesn't make me Trump even if I manage to look identical to him. Putting on makeup is giving the appearance of being attractive not actually being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:10 AM
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No it's not at all. Looking more attractive doesn't mean you actually are just as looking rich doesn't mean you actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:08 AM
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If the rented car makes you look richer then you look richer at that point in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:47 AM
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It doesn't make you any more attractive, it makes you LOOK more attractive just as renting a car doesn't make you rich it just makes you LOOK rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:44 AM
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Clothes aren't necessarily designed to alter your appearance but if you notice I did mention shape wear, which is a type of clothing designed to conceal something unattractive about yourself and change your natural appearance so yeah I consider that lying too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:43 AM
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"makeup isn't meant to deceive you it's meant to make her look more attractive". Wut bro? Reread this as many times as it takes to realize what you just wrote, and that you actually agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:33 AM
3

And you either look good on your own or you don't, it doesn't matter how you present yourself of what clown show you cover your face with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:32 AM
2

Rich is relative and a state of mind. It's just as much a construct as being attractive is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:21 AM
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Just like how you present yourself is a part of how much of a baller you are. So it's okay for dudes to front about being rich when they don't have shit then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:10 AM
2

IDK what the rules on that are here on Reddit. People seem to flip their shit if you edit a post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:59 PM
1

"Just as Pathetic" so if you don't think either one is pathetic that would still fit because they would be just as pathetic. I totally get what you're saying, and perhaps my word choice wasn't the best way to express what I was going for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:55 PM
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Any. When you are wearing makeup you are lying about your appearance as you're altering your natural look in an attempt to raise your status. Only exception is if you wore makeup to make yourself look worse, like a witch costume at halloween.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:49 PM
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It's not. It is the exact same amount of lying. Why is it way more pathetic when a man lies about his status than when a woman does?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:48 PM
1

It's as bad as a man who outright lies about being some sort of baller. Men need to recognize it and say enough is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:45 PM
0

Fair enough, instead of focusing on pathetic the real meaning I have here is that it's an equivalent action. It sounds like you agree with that for the most part as you think it's lying both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:39 PM
2

It’s 100% the same. Both of them are trying to make themselves look better than they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:30 PM
2

Then why does she need the makeup? She’s trying to be hotter then she is, which is just as lying as the dude pretending to be wealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:29 PM
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Side note I've rented cars before, more because I wanted to possibly buy one and wanted to see how it worked in my lifestyle but I never did that to flex. The services are available though, so I could imagine guys can do it .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:20 PM
1

What I mean by same thing is trying to trick the opposite sex into raising your status. Women having money doesn't raise their status nearly the same as a woman being attractive, so that's where she's going to lie. A man being attractive doesn't raise his status nearly as much as a man being successful does so that's where he is going to lie. The actions themselves are different but the purpose is the same. I could have possibly made that clearer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:18 PM
2

This post is just as much for men as it is for women. It's about time men expected better, like what's expected of us. Fake ass makeup, throw her back.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:04 PM
4

Anyone who withholds sex for any game type reason is a garbage partner and it’s a huge red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:57 PM
1

LOL if you think so. https://www.ziprecruiter.com/c/Law-Offices-Of-Arcia-Associates-PC/Job/Experienced-Immigration-Attorney/-in-New-York,NY?jid=c3a6108a08b929ba&lvk=4dQ10Z8Q4yWRpLGTog2h-g.--M4qwBp2_3 There's a recruiting posting for an EXPERIENCED lawyer for 95K in NY lol. Big dollars bro. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 02:11 PM
1

Then why are you following me around like a lost little puppy? Oh you're an ambulance chaser, explains a lot. Or are you still in school to be an ambulance chaser. The starting salary for a lawyer in the US is now like 60K, great job choice my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 02:06 PM
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Judging by how butthurt it’s made you I’d say you care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:58 PM
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No I stated a fact. I know you don’t know what those are but stating that 80% of divorces are filed by women is a fact
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:56 PM
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Sure I probably have a little pocket change.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:54 PM
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Do you have any evidence they don’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:50 PM
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Guess what, you could verify those opinions with the cited studies if you weren’t so lazy. Come to think of it, that would probably solve lots of your problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:46 PM
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Except for all the papers cited and linked in those articles but sure. Then again youd actually need to be able to read to see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:26 PM
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Opinion articles my ass tough guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:08 PM
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LOL just keep ignoring all the sources I’ve posted tough guy. You’re such a badass bro, how can I be super cool like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:05 PM
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They don’t exist or you’d name them. You haven’t therefore they don’t. Nice try though, no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 12:10 AM
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I don't believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:01 PM
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So you don’t actually have any sources to back up what you say? Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 07:48 PM
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You are wasting your time still making the comments, it wouldn’t take any more time to cite a source assuming you had one. So since you keep commenting wasting time is clearly not a problem for you. You’re gonna need a better excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 07:43 PM
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More than you have. I've actually provided several links. Why have you provided exactly zero sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 07:21 PM
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I’ve backed up what I’ve said plenty, you haven’t provided a single source for anything you’ve said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:52 PM
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I’m clearly more educated than you because when I make statements there is factual information coloring them. I don’t just let my misandry make me spew trash tier opinions on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:45 PM
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Good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:43 PM
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You are, that’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:42 PM
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Laughs in masters degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:42 PM
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I understand what talking out of your ass is, I just caught you doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:39 PM
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So you have absolutely no basis to form your opinion? Then your opinion is shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:37 PM
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I will, just as soon as you provide evidence that single father’s are worse for children than single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:36 PM
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And you have absolutely no evidence backing that opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:35 PM
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Of course you didn’t mean welfare, because that destroys your shit tier argument and shows women aren’t taking care of themselves either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:33 PM
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So just not this year lol? That’s seriously your metric? What about in the last 10, wanna bet there’s instances of women protesting men’s charities in the last 10 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:33 PM
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Yes there is a reason to believe it wouldn't be worse, because there is no indication that it would be. You haven't provided any either, so not exactly helping your case. I also think given how many men can barely take care of themselves, it doesn't bode well for their kids. You mean like all the women on welfare taking money from daddy government to survive? Taking care of themselves like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:29 PM
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People with high net worth tend to get divorced much less often than people in a lower socioeconomic class. When they do, it tends to cost the high earning partner much more severely if it's not balanced. It cost Jeff Bezos 30 billion dollars, although I think personally that divorce was pretty fair. She gave him seed money for Amazon and helped him a lot in the beginning. I don't think that rich men "pay for it" any more than poor men do, and if you're just talking one night stands status and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:14 PM
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There's absolutely no reason to believe that it would be worse is there? So your comment is just talking out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:07 PM
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I'm simply asking you to prove that single fatherhood is worse for kids than single motherhood, as that is YOUR assertion not mine. All I said is that it can't be worse than the one we have now, which would also imply it could be just as bad. For it to be worse, I'm gonna need to see some evidence showing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:03 PM
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Sure it is. You claimed that single fatherhood could, or would be worse than the current one we have a single motherhood. Surely you have some sort of data to back that up showing that children do worse in single father homes and it's not just your misandry and bullshit coloring your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:00 PM
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Prove it. Show me that kids are worse off with single fathers now than they are with single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 04:23 PM
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Anyone who DOESN'T hate on radical feminism isn't raising their kids right guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 04:12 PM
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Having kids is something everyone can do sure, but having well adjusted kids who grow up in an intact and happy household is pretty rare today. It's becoming more rare as time goes on because of radical feminism and an insane level of entitlement that leads to people literally believing the world owes them something for having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:51 PM
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It can't be any worse than the plague of single moms we have now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:44 PM
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They can make an ovum from skin cells too and artificial wombs have already successfully grown sheep.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:30 PM
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No common sense demonstrates what's the closest to married couple. It seems like you've never been married, and hopefully you don't have children, but if you did you'd know that in a healthy marriage children have equal access to both parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:29 PM
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I didn't say it was. Sure you did, you said the standard we have now is "best interest of the child". Right now women get primary custody 86% of the time. You think the standard we have now is the best one, therefore you think that women getting primary custody is the best interest of the child. Sorry you struggle so much with cause and effect, but now that I held your hand through it feel free to prove it by counteracting all the research I've cited proving otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:28 PM
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So you're not denying that women fight to get men's charities shut down, but you think that's men's fault. Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:26 PM
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I know that I'm winning genetically. I'm winning in my personal life, and I'm enjoying your tantrums so I call that a win as well. It's pretty amusing watching how big mad you are over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:25 PM
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HAHAHA where do you think the sperm in a sperm bank comes from? The sperm fairy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:11 PM
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Also nice job cherry picking and disregarding the last few sentences of that quote. I'll go ahead and repost those. “there is a very sizable gap between current popular views strongly favoring equal custody, as reflected in polls and votes on custody allocation, and actual legal outcomes.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:08 PM
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I told you not to send me any of your bullshit blogs. You're whining about proof, there is some. Refute it or shut the fuck up. Does he have a poll about "equal custody," or only a poll about "shared parenting?" If the poll doesn't specify equal custody, then he doesn't have evidence about equal custody. Where are your articles showing that women getting primary custody is in the best interest of the child. I've given several showing it isn't. Time to come up with that proof you claim to love so…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:03 PM
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All of these articles show that equal access, or closest to married couple is the best interest of the child clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:02 PM
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I actually do https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2012/12/the-real-complex-connection-between-single-parent-families-and-crime/265860/ There's a great article explaining that single motherhood is a huge risk factor for criminal children. another https://prospect.org/health/consequences-single-motherhood/ and another https://fathers.com/statistics-and-research/the-consequences-of-fatherlessness/ So I'll ask, where is your proof that awarding custody to women solely is better for the childre…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:30 PM
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Why are you so upset that you need to personally insult people? Are you a deadbeat dad and are just projecting your failings on me?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:27 PM
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Get in front of the mirror, turn off the lights, and say it three more times, see if it comes true. It already has. Anyone with an IQ above room temperature can see it. Well, having any default custody arrangement would be incredibly dumb, so I kind of doubt feminists have been wasting their time on that issue when there are actual issues to be discussed. Don't worry, lawyers aren't stupid enough to fall for your "default custody" bullshit. Wrong again. First off, you keep saying best interest o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:26 PM
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So you missed what I was saying on purpose, sorry I'm calling total bullshit on that one. Nice try but no one is buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:18 PM
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They aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:17 PM
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Children are not a product at all. Even thinking of things in those terms is super toxic. You cannot have children without male effort that is also a fact, one that renders your point moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:07 PM
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LOLZ You would actually have to win one of these debates in order to do that. Since I don't see that happening, it's not something you ever need to worry about. Instead just stick to bragging about willingly removing yourself from the gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:06 PM
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Since when is "because they did it first" a valid excuse to do bad things?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:05 PM
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Don't worry about being in my we group, that's something people aspire to but very few achieve. Clearly you aren't experienced in the use of the royal we. I guess I have to explain basic English to you as well. The sentence I used wasn't referring to myself or people like me at all, it was actually referring to YOU and Mr. Male fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:04 PM
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I don’t care if you believe me or not, this is amusing to me and I’ve been laughing my ass off in a private friend chat group over this entire thing. I honestly cannot get enough of people who think they are being smart by weeding themselves out of the gene pool. Truly it’s a glorious thing to behold. The bitterness and entitlement that people like you have never ceases to amaze me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:27 PM
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Well 80% of them are lying about their “til death do us part one” and I’ve proven that so…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:25 PM
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I’m not at all lying. You’ve already said children are your property.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:24 PM
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Or that any charity that is exclusively for men gets shut down by feminist harpies. There are so many examples of feminism attacking male only spaces yet female only charities are allowed to exist. Just another example of the institutional sexism all men face at the expense of entitled women and female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:03 PM
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When you say men I’m sure what you mean is “men like me” except I’m happily married with children and you have your local cat shelter on speed dial. In fact, if I told you just how good my life is you’d accuse me of lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:01 PM
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Says the person who thinks other people are her property.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:01 PM
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Here’s another one, for MOTHERS. http://thecustodyproject.org/about.php
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:47 PM
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No but the fact that these services are geared towards WOMEN does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:46 PM
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Sounds exactly like what you’re doing. Amazing. We know you’re a liar and you’re also entitled which is super amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:45 PM
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Lol except it’s not the men weeding themselves out. It’s the sort of women who think the world owes them something because vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:45 PM
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Wut? It’s literally listed on single mom.org.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:44 PM
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She’s a literal Supreme Court justice, yeah truly the barbaric times of the handmaidens tale lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:43 PM
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah yeah that would work out super well. Show me ONE single dad that has gotten assistance from these resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:42 PM
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I don’t believe a word you say. You’re irrational and you think children are your property. You’ve edited a comment, and I called you on it. There have been 30 or more since then I’m not going back through them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:41 PM
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That’s great because the last thing society needs is more children from mothers who feel the world owes them something for their biology. It’s self selection and toxic people weeding themselves out of the gene pool. Truly a beautiful thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:39 PM
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Except for the comment you edited but sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:35 PM
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http://www.singlemoms.org/free-legal-assistance-state/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:35 PM
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It’s not the same thing as the book, it’s a totally separate organization. Amazing how you can attack someone’s faith though, that’s all well and good unless they’re Muslim huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:33 PM
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You don’t get compensated for a personal choice. If you don’t want kids, don’t have any. Men don’t owe you shit for your own biology. Imagine being this entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:32 PM
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No women get financial assistance to fight for child court. Men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:30 PM
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You’re owed exactly shit. Men didn’t design your body, and I know tons of men who wish they were the ones to have given birth. I can’t even fathom someone who’s so materialistic and greedy that you feel children are your property and men owe you something to have access to them. That’s a real disgusting viewpoint. Maybe you missed it, but slavery isn’t illegal and another human being isn’t your property. You can get pregnant without men, and men didn’t create your biology. You are owed nothing f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:26 PM
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Hahaha That is the single dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. First off let me know when you can make that kid without sperm. Second, thanks for admitting you think children are a bargaining chip and they are the property of women. That’s disgusting for a number of reasons but at least you’re not ashamed to admit it. The stats are stay at home parents are the minority yet women win custody 86% of the time I think neither parent should be the weekend parent because there is no such thing as a weekend …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:18 PM
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What % exactly. Do you have any proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:58 AM
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The classic female tactic
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:58 AM
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You don’t compensate people for a personal choice. Who’s to say that in every case it’s a mutual decision? What about in all the cases where neither parent stays home and the woman still wins custody. Let’s face facts here, very few couples have a stay at home mother anymore. If that were true it would be a fixed amount and not scale with income. Childcare costs do not rise with the extorted partner’s income. The state also takes a cut so they are incentivized to rob the higher earning parent of…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:58 AM
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Women don’t have to make the same choice because instead of default 50/50 custody women are awarded primary custody 86% of the time, and women have government legal aid to fight for custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:53 AM
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I don’t care if you believe me or not, it doesn’t make it any less true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:52 AM
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She edited her comment because like you, she’s also throwing personal insults instead of making legitimate arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:51 AM
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I asserted that women file for divorce 80% of the time and I’ve done enough to back up that assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:51 AM
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The best interests of the child are equal access to both parents. The rise in single motherhood and the corresponding rise in crime rates would be a pretty strong argument against the way we do it now, if you were at all unbiased.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:50 AM
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You aren’t deceiving by doing something your body does naturally just like it’s not deceptive to wear something that’s more form fitting to show your tits. Using unnatural chemicals to alter your appearance is a completely different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:48 AM
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I’ve provided plenty of evidence on this whole thread. Child support absolutely is used as alimony and feminism has a 30 year history fighting against default equal custody. I wonder why that is Dan?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:47 AM
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It’s amazing how we can see what we want to isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:45 AM
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Wut? Imagine thinking this was even remotely true. The Handmaid’s tale is FICTION.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:44 AM
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Also logically you would split custody and split expenses because both parties are equally responsible for the children and should have equal access to them. There is absolutely no reason not to have default 50-50 custody with no child support at all in this day in age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:51 AM
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Now trying to gaslight too. Can any of you win an argument based on merit instead of rotten tricks and lies?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:48 AM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:47 AM
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Women are the ones who refuse to marry a lower earning man. More and more men are refusing to get married and the marriage rate is tanking
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:47 AM
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Lol you edited your comment. Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:43 AM
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Except I actually provided evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:43 AM
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. Men deserve to be divorce raped because they didn’t pick a woman who earned enough. Amazing level of toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:42 AM
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When you told me if I wasn’t a shit father my lawyer wouldn’t say I would lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:41 AM
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Lol so go into tens of thousands of dollars of crippling debt just to get your kids back or you don’t love them, meanwhile a woman has no obligation to be fair or to have default 50-50 custody. Holy dissonance
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:41 AM
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So they can’t prove the infidelity, so you’re admitting you have no proof of your assertion yet still claiming it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:40 AM
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Afraid not. Your claim made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:39 AM
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That’s only because men will lose if they fight or they cannot pay the tens of thousands of dollars required to take it to court the second after getting a divorce. There are legal aid programs for women to fight for custody but none for men. Also why do you keep trying to make this personal. I’m not in a custody battle, this shit doesn’t apply to me personally so stop attacking me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:37 AM
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That’s totally untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:34 AM
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Victim blaming now? That’s what you’re going with?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:33 AM
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I didn’t admit I was wrong, I said that child support is used as spousal support by a biased family Court system. When primary custody is awarded to women over 86% of the time during divorce in the US i would say it’s a pretty valid argument. You’re the one who’s getting all personal her bub, calling me a shit father for having a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:33 AM
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Maybe because, like you already admitted, the courts have an anti male bias. Why do you have to make this personal pal? No need to get your panties in a bunch. Settle down and have a discussion like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:28 AM
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No more trash than the original one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:26 AM
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No idea, but it could be 2% or it could be 100%. Until you provide proof either way my assertion remains.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:26 AM
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We DO know that women file 70% of the time. So it’s not exactly a reach to declare that they are breaking the vows in many of these, if not most of these cases. It’s literally a matter of record especially when the most common reasoning cited in these filings is “irreconcilable differences” not infidelity
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:22 AM
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I also like how in your number 4 you agree that family court is biased against fathers but don’t use this to tie it all together. You were so close to the point but didn’t quite get there
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:20 AM
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“Custody is usually agreed on by the parents”. See this is A bullshit play on words trick and how it usually goes is this woman”you take every other weekend custody or I’ll make sure you never see your kids at all” man to his lawyer “can she do that?” Lawyer” well if it goes to court you’re likely to lose so” man” I guess holding my kids hostage for spousal support masquerading as child support will have to do”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:19 AM
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Bumped cooters. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:01 AM
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That’s all well and good, except they just award custody to the woman and substitute child support and just call it that instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:50 AM
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So the woman who fucks around and files for divorce, is she excluded from this statistic or no? You have absolutely ZERO basis for declaring that to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:22 AM
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Or maybe because they are fucking other men and only married him for his money. See I can make up scenarios that make the other gender look bad too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:14 AM
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Alimony is not extremely rare. Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:12 AM
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First off, I have a masters in engineering so why don’t you achieve something before you start throwing rocks at someone who already has. Second, YOU don’t know your own experiences relative to men’s therefore your opinion is meaningless. I don’t know how much clearer I can make it, it seems you’re unable to grasp even this simplistic comment. I have given real and quantifiable examples of sexism against men and the only rebuttal you’ve been able to muster is a worthless opinion. Honestly your c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:10 AM
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You can’t actually say that unless you also were able to experience things as a man. Since you cannot, your opinion is conjecture. Mine is hard fact due to many colleges accepting women with lower entrance exam scores into STEM programs men have to be overqualified just to gain entrance over a less qualified woman due to sexism. Therefore it’s harder to be a man in stem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:04 AM
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Lol. If you actually kept reading you’d see I supplied multiple sources and it took me only a minute worth of internet searching. Women literally are propped up in school and in the working world. There are lower standards for women all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:00 AM
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Strong rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:58 AM
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Citation needed on this being the only, or even the majority reason for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:42 AM
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Except the number of women who will marry a stay at home dad is even smaller than the 30% who pay alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:32 AM
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Now your switching the goal posts from false equivalence to strawmen arguments. My argument wasn’t whether or not you could tell anyone was wearing makeup. My argument is that makeup alters appearance with the intent to deceive others, it is by definition a lie. It doesn’t matter if you can tell they are wearing it so long as it’s worn to alter appearance in order to deceive others. Nothing more, nothing less. Stop arguing against points that were never made.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:30 AM
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No we didn’t. That’s not at all accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:09 AM
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Does beard hair grow naturally or no? That’s a NATURAL attribute, and would be the equivalent to a woman’s breasts. They are attractive to a mate but that happens via genetics. If a man who couldn’t grow a beard got a beard transplant or wore a wig then you would have a point, but since this is extremely rare it’s a total false equivalence. In fact, your insistence on continuing to bring it up shows that you don’t really even fully grasp my original comment as you’re struggling to understand the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:05 AM
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You’ll pass because no such law or program exists. In fact, minorities also benefit much in the same way that women do by special racist programs just for them. Why does everything have to come down to vagina access with you people? First off, whether or not I “get my dick wet” my point stands and you are unable to counter it in any way which is why you’re resulting to tantrums and personal attacks. Secondly, I’m clearly smarter than you are because I was able to hand you your ass in this debate…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:02 AM
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Your study only counts one specific situation too. You used that one specific study to declare that men lie more than women. I just offered a counter example where women are lying more than men. If anything, I countered YOUR cherry-picking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:53 PM
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Do men paste wigs on their faces or does that hair grow by itself? Are you trying to say that all that makeup exudes from women’s pores?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:52 PM
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Yeah, that's pretty rare. 70-30 is a pretty uneven distribution to where I think the term rare applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:44 PM
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Men don't lie more when it comes to marriage is the whole point. Since it's women breaking those vows much more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:43 PM
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Lol. Citation needed on the women lie more altruistically thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:33 PM
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80% of divorces are filed by women. 80.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:32 PM
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That’s simply because you’re using the female standard as the acceptable standard and declaring the male standard deficient. No one but you decided that criteria, I certainly didn’t agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:32 PM
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Over 70% of alimony is paid by men to women. Your MIL is an extremely rare occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:30 PM
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It depends on what you consider a “lie”. I would say that wearing makeup and shape wear is a lie about your appearance as you’re artificially changing it to appear more attractive than you really are. If we use the definition of lie as “intentionally deceiving another” then we could make a successful argument that makeup itself is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:28 PM
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Okay, name me one law or program that excludes black people based on their race.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:09 PM
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For the fourth time, I wasn’t interested in discussing relationships in any capacity and none of my comments were focused on doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:25 PM
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It’s not really tho. It’s about men who aren’t successful in relationships and telling them things OUTSIDE of the relationship sphere
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:03 PM
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What? Do you not agree that programs and lower standards for women OR POC for that matter is racist and sexist? If you can’t even admit that any further conversation is a complete waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:56 PM
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There’s plenty of shit JUST for women, and none for men, but anti male sexism doesn’t exist. Lolz.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:57 PM
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college incentives? easy. they want MORE women in STEM. that’s more of a feminist thing, buts it’s exactly the point. men are already dominating STEM. so they want more women to be inclusive or whatever. you can’t reward a dude when he’s doing exactly what other dudes have done for decades? Where are all the programs for men in teaching and nursing and all the other places women dominate? The issue is one, that you cannot discriminate against one gender regardless of the gender makeup and two, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:17 PM
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Retail is not typically known for it's difficult physical working conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:12 PM
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Okay so it's your opinion with absolutely no supporting evidence besides your own opinion. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:48 PM
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I'm not talking about relationships either though, and I already said this. If you're not going to actually read my comments what's the point of replying. You are just talking to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:27 PM
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I'm not talking about sex or relationships at all. I'm not sure who this response was addressed to but it wasn't my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:25 PM
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Men and women in combat arms career fields must meet the exact same benchmarks If you actually scrolled down from this paragraph you'd see that they still have lower PT test standards for promotions than men do. One uni lowering requirements for a single test does not mean anything. Men can also get into uni if they have a shifty SAT score but do well in other areas. So what you're saying is that it "doesn't count" that this university is doing blatant anti male discrimination and since it's "ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:18 PM
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I spent 17 years in construction, worked my way up from apprentice level and through school and hard work made my way to running multi million dollar projects. What you say is largely bullshit, and I'm going to need a source on the fact that women work so much safer than men do and that leads to equal productivity. The simple fact is men can and do the work of multiple women in areas where physical strength is an advantage. It happens so routinely it's not even worth debating. Plus, there are so…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:09 PM
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LOL. https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/off-duty/military-fitness/2017/05/21/new-concerns-that-lower-fitness-standards-fuel-disrespect-for-women/ (this proves women have lower standards than men in the military) https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/aug/29/university-makes-10-point-entry-score-adjustment-for-female-applicants (proof that universities are having lower admission scores for women for certain degrees) https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2021/03/03/gender-quotas-and-support-for-w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:01 PM
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LOL. https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/off-duty/military-fitness/2017/05/21/new-concerns-that-lower-fitness-standards-fuel-disrespect-for-women/ (this proves women have lower standards than men in the military) https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/aug/29/university-makes-10-point-entry-score-adjustment-for-female-applicants (proof that universities are having lower admission scores for women for certain degrees) https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2021/03/03/gender-quotas-and-support-for-w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:01 PM
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If that were true we wouldn't need all the special handouts and lower standards for women in the workforce would we?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:51 PM
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Why didn't you refute them from the other man who provided you those sources then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:50 PM
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But your responses didn't actually address any of my arguments, or refute them in any way. Boiled down, it was basically a nuh uh, which as we both know, isn't a valid argument. So why can you not address the specific instances of anti male bias in western society? Why is it so difficult for you to acknowledge your female privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:43 PM
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Yet you’ve responded several times since this comment was made but still haven’t made a legitimate counter point. So it’s not a time issue, it’s a you’ve lost the debate but are too immature to concede issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:35 PM
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Are you really that oblivious that you don't know that this stuff goes on? I guess it is true that privilege is invisible to see for those that have it huh? In another comment string on my thread a man has already provided you with SEVERAL sources backing up what i've said It's clear that you're not actually interested in learning, but are interested in making disrespectful remarks. Find something constructive to do, or start arguing in good faith. This is a debate group, not a make sarcastic co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:18 PM
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First of all I'm married, so drop the incel shit. Second, you're only responding to very selective parts of the original question and that's dishonest. It was more about how the men on the "lower end" are doing poorly. My supposition is that these men would do better if we stopped handicapping them. The ONLY reason women are "doing better" career wise is because they don't need to rely on merit. Some are better than men, but many are affirmative action hires or otherwise benefited from anti male…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:15 PM
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Notice the silence now that I pointed out just a small slice of the anti male discrimination that's pervasive in western society. I guess it's much easier to make disrespectful and flippant responses calling people boyo than it is to have an actual point huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:01 PM
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I have no idea, and I'm not interested in performative questions like that TBH. What I am talking about isn't how men relate to women, it's how much better men would do as a group if society wasn't so focused on blaming them for the world's problems and handicapping them at every available opportunity. Men as a group would be better off if women didn't get all the special treatment they do in modern society regardless of how women feel about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:57 PM
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Affirmative action, lower standards for desireable jobs and college admission, incentivizing employers to hire more women, special business grants for women, special government programs for women, 10X federal funding for women's health issues despite male specific issues killing just as many men as women's issues do women, women being exempted from the draft. That's a good start.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:50 PM
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How about lower requirements for the military, the fact that women are exempted from the draft despite being eligible for combat roles, Lower requirements for police or firefighters, college incentives for women in STEM even though more women than men graduate college now, special financial aid for women, tons of government social programs geared towards women or majority women? Is that enough for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:49 PM
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I didn't say EVERY whim did I? If you want to get a job where my size and strength is an advantage don't worry we will bend the rules and give you an easier test. If its a intellectual career that has "too few" women in it don't worry because we will lower the admission standards for you to get accepted into the program, bumping out more qualified men from the job. We will push diversity quotas and affirmative action and pretend these things aren't terribly sexist just so you can be a strong and…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:47 PM
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Because no one cares, is not a valid answer. He was specifically asking about a major double standard and you didn't address it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:41 PM
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hahahaha. Men are the only ones who are actually legally discriminated against in western societies. Women are coddled and receive the overwhelming majority of social programs and handouts. Women are net consumers and men are net taxpayers. Imagine knowing all this and still claiming that women are disadvantaged. The only thing holding women back are their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:38 PM
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Show me where I said society should cater to men. I very simply said that all that needs to happen is society needs to STOP catering to women, not that they need to cater to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:00 PM
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My thoughts are the only reason why women are "more successful" is all of society is set up to cater to them and their whims. End that and the men would be doing better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 04:51 PM
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I wasn’t trying to insult you, that’s against the group rules. I was stating factual information, information you cannot counter because you know it’s 100% true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 01:20 PM
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The one who got triggered is the one accusing others of a fragile ego for simply stating facts. What I said is 100% true, sorry that it hurts your feels so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 12:06 PM
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Yeah you’re really going to enjoy it when the power goes off, when you turn on your tap and there’s no water, no fuel for your car or police or tow drivers to clean up the accidents. Without men you would die very quickly as men built and maintain pretty much the entirety of the modern world. Women do little to none of the critical jobs that keep society functioning. One week without women at work, and no one would notice. One week without men and it would take decades to recover from the quanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:54 AM
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The feminine way is not automatically the correct way and there is no such thing as toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:49 AM
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The entire modern world would end over night. It would be the biggest cataclysm the world has ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:49 AM
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No because it makes outlandish claims with zero proof backing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:01 AM
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Yeah, that’s really not the proof I asked for is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 01:24 AM
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She doesn't care if I look at porn, it's a non issue for her as it should be. We still have a healthy sex life and that's all that she needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 08:35 PM
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About being a liar? Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 08:34 PM
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How do you come to the conclusion that it's somehow unhealthy to have poor boundaries in a relationship where you love with your wife? I don't know what this means. What I can tell you for certain is that in the 17 years i've been with my wife she has never once told me how I was allowed to masturbate, that's extremely controlling and toxic. We are monogamous, but porn doesn't involve other people if it's recorded and you have no interaction with those people. ​ Also I guess it depends on your d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 07:52 PM
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You've never lived with a partner have you? I do think that cooperation is key, but you can cooperate without taking time to know each other before committing. I've been living with my wife 16 years and married for 14. Tell me, how long have you been happily married?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 07:13 PM
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LOL "boundaries around porn use" and waiting ANY prescribed length of time is nonsense. It's game playing and it's toxic, any practitioner of this sort of strategy is more concerned with "winning" than they are of having a healthy relationship which by definition is give and take. If you go in wanting to win instead of cooperate you will be a shit partner in every single instance, this applies equally to the sort of men who see sex as a game of conquest. Both groups of those people deserve each …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 07:09 PM
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This seems like just another way to say the "one good man" Philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 07:07 PM
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This article is conjecture, it's pure nonsense and bad science. The person who wrote it should be fired.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:59 PM
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If you're talking about FDS, that is basically the female version of incels and is toxic as hell. Plenty of women become radicals when dating fails, they become radical feminists who admonish men or do the sort of stuff FDS advocates for. Refusal to change is not a male phenomenon, it's a human one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:55 PM
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most men naturally love supporting their wives or at least feel indifferent about it I'm gonna disagree with you here. Men don't like supporting their wives they like reciprocal relationships. If that's reciprocated with her doing domestic stuff, or being there for him career wise then he isn't supporting her completely it's symbiotic. I make significantly more than my wife does and even though I wouldn't notice and could pay outside people to take over all that she does I wouldn't be happy abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:52 PM
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I think the phrase "late stage capitalism" is nonsense. I also think that the fears that plague people now are much the same as fears that have plagued humanity since the dawn of civilization. The difference is now we have better communication to share them. Also the biggest reason that mental disorders are on the rise is that we have an understanding of nuance over mental disorders now that is pretty new in the grand scheme of things. ​ It wasn't that long ago that unless you were not functiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:43 PM
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Maybe that's what these men want. If they wanted a relationship I agree that they could probably have one. Clearly they don't want one, or they need to choose better. I think that applies to everyone though. Same with the women who complain about being pumped and dumped constantly. If one person comes across a person that uses them once they are unlucky, if they keep running across people that are doing that then they need to be better about evaluating their choices. Same with men who complain t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:37 PM
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But men on OLD who do the short term thing repeatedly are probably okay with it- that's that's they are looking for. They could find someone better for them or in their league if they wanted. Another example- I know a young guy who actually did find am amazing young young and get off OLD I'm sorry, IDK what this means.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:14 PM
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I don't know any man who brags about being a liar, and your declaration doesn't make it so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:05 PM
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I'm talking about the ones who say "woah this woman is depserate" or "she's so crazy" and then they turn around to have sex with her, never saying that to her face. Most of the time when men say stuff like this it's AFTER they have already had sex with this woman. I think it's valid if they didn't realize these things until after they slept with the woman as many women change the way they act after having sex with a man and become possessive or otherwise undesirable. I honestly have never heard …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 05:55 PM
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Both onlyfans customers and sugar daddies are desesperate to have a connection with a girl. They cannot elicit genuine desire from a woman, so they are willing to pay for a fake relationship. I think this is a pretty wide net to be casting and I would say that for most men who are "sugar daddies" it's absolutely not true that they cannot elicit genuine desire from a woman, I would say for many of them it's the opposite. They are very successful men, and as such are targets for duplicitous women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 05:43 PM
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I disagree. First off you're just blanketly declaring all these men as liars when you have absolutely no basis to say they lied at all. Maybe the feelings they had at the time they said them were genuine, and something else turned them off during the course of the relationship. Maybe the sex was terrible. At the end of the day the only person who can control whether or not you're participating in casual sex is you, assuming you're not being raped. It occurs to me that if you're only interested i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 05:38 PM
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I don't even get what your argument is here. Is it that men who are seeking casual sex are having sex with women who want commitment and that is somehow that man's fault? Why are these women having sex with men without them demonstrating commitment if that's what they want? Also are you declaring these women to be garbage for sleeping with these guys? Also I abhor the term fuck boy, because if a man is after casual sex and is honest about it, there's nothing whatsoever wrong with his preference.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 05:23 PM
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It sounds like you're just dealing with certain types of people. I'm not sure if that's a case of you attracting those sorts of people or you just being unlucky. America does have a more individualistic culture than most other places though, so it does explain part of it for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:49 PM
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It depends on what category the man belongs in looks wise. If he's an 8-9 he might date a 7 just because the number of women at his level is much smaller than his available dating pool but a man who's a 4-6 wants to shoot for higher looks wise since if he's a 4 the majority of women are better looking than he is so his only choices are to offer something besides looks and date up, accept someone at his level or be alone. I think declaring that men use looks as their primary determining dating fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:25 PM
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He never said that wasn’t true he said some have more value than others not that only some people have value. We could all do without the strawman thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:16 PM
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I’m gonna have to agree with most of this. I won’t divulge what I do for work but most people misunderstand what a CEO’s job is. They are not the tech nerd coding his way to running a successful company. Sure in cases of people like Gates he started that way, but that’s not what made him a successful CEO. Being a company figurehead isn’t about product knowledge. Many of them don’t know how to do the simplest jobs in their own companies. What makes a good CEO is leadership. Your job is to look at…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:11 PM
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I think the bigger problem on apps like Tinder is they are designed for hookups not meaningful relationships. It’s not a dating app it’s a meet and fuck app. Of course most of the guys on there are gonna try and fuck. The real “alpha” men aren’t even on dating apps or they put so little effort into them that it doesn’t matter. If they have a tinder they just go on it to check who matched them not to put in any effort. I do agree that both men and women need to be more realistic with where they f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:01 PM
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Yup. We just need to keep getting the word out there. I work with quite a few young women who realize the problem. One of my female employees got a girl expelled from college because she sexually assaulted a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 05:05 PM
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And the only way it has a hope of Changing is by calling it out every time we see it. Maybe it won’t matter, but at least I will have tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 05:00 PM
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This is a real tragedy.
/r/MensRights24/06/21 04:59 PM
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That’s exactly what we should tell them because it doesn’t matter what men they focus on because far too many women think it’s acceptable behavior. If anything the Gillette treatment applies to women MORE than to men because I’ve never in my life seen a man brag about sexual assault and not get roasted or his ass kicked by other men but many times have seen women openly brag about the same sort of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:58 PM
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So those top 10% of men don’t “have it as bad”. Where do you get off saying that isn’t as big of a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:42 PM
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Bullshit. I think it’s because of people like you showing up and shouting down men like me for why they downplay it. Why are you so determined to shout down male victims and tell them the don’t have it as bad? Was I lucky?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 11:11 AM
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Of course it did, I’m a human being. Even to this day I avoid bars/ other places with high concentrations of drunk women. All the people saying “wElL guYz R StRonGer” so what. Do you think that if I was to have used my physical strength people would have reacted well to me decking some chick for grabbing my dick through my pants? Hell no they wouldn’t have. Just look at the numerous comments on here telling me stuff like “it’s not the same thing” “women have it worse” “guys can defend themselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 11:02 AM
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Why is there always someone like you on a post about men experiencing abuse going out of their way to downplay it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 10:54 AM
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I think that asking if it’s the same isn’t really going to get an answer. All I can tell you for sure is that as a man I have been sexually harassed and assaulted by women way too many times to keep track of. The number of women who will grab your ass in a bar, make off color comments or even grab for your dick is quite a few. I know that had I been the one doing some of this stuff to women I would have went to jail yet nothing happens to them for doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 02:14 AM
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Because most of the women on FDS are low value women and are angry because the men they want avoid them so they are bitter that their only choices are, in their view, below them. Just like incel men who are super bitter against sluts and fat women. They themselves are low value so that’s all they can attract and they are pissed off that their choice is limited to people they don’t like and it’s easier to piss and moan than it is to become the sort of person they want would be attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 03:51 PM
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Feminism has never been about equal rights and I can’t stand the people who say it is. Feminism is about equal rights based on the idea that women have been oppressed throughout history. This is categorically untrue. When your movement is based on a false premise it’s bound to be harmful.
/r/MensRights19/06/21 09:13 PM
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You’re lucky then. Here it’s pretty much default non shared parenting thanks to 30 years of feminist lies and advocacy against it.
/r/MensRights19/06/21 01:29 PM
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Too bad feminists keep fighting against default shared parenting laws.
/r/MensRights19/06/21 01:22 PM
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You say that, but that’s what usually winds up happening. Maybe he will get a new, younger partner that will suck him dry financially. Regardless of what he does if you keep after it you will wind up being fine yourself eventually. It’s not fair but it is what it is. If I got divorced at this point my settlement would be much worse than yours if that’s any consolation.
/r/MensRights19/06/21 01:19 PM
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Yup 100%
/r/MensRights18/06/21 09:17 PM
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Yup. This is pretty much what men go through in 80% of divorces and why many men say marriage isn’t worth it. If it’s any consolation on a long enough timeframe most of these men still wind up better off because the partner who doesn’t earn shit squanders their settlement. So just keep your head down keep plugging away and in 15-20 years you’ll come out on top most likely. Not exactly a comforting comment but it’s the best I got in such a shit situation
/r/MensRights18/06/21 08:54 PM
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They aren’t, but they lose a generation of men after them. So they wind up getting less male attention while men wind up getting more female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 12:41 PM
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That’s not at all true and you have no basis to say that. All men aren’t some sex crazed monolith so you cannot declare that as a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 12:40 PM
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You should have filed a wrongful termination case
/r/MensRights18/06/21 12:11 AM
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Lol whatever makes you feel better. I got news for you, it’s not exactly difficult to get laid. You way overvalue what’s between your legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 12:04 AM
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I already do exercise but I’m going to shake some chicken bones in a sack and howl at the moon instead of read the Bible because it’s about as effective.
/r/MensRights17/06/21 11:05 AM
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Lolz. You don’t know what hotties like or don’t like because you’re not one. You’re a prostitute cyber stalker who literally follows strange men around Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:33 PM
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That would help but the firemen (government) is getting paid by the people who started the fire to ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:32 PM
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Holy fuuuuuuck you’re so lucky you were born with a vagina because if you had to get by with what was between your ears instead of selling what’s between your legs you’d be eating out of dumpsters and sleeping in a box.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:27 PM
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What? Care to try again but make sense this time? Better yet, you could stop stalking me. Christ it’s like talking to an ape. I’d get more intelligible conversation out of letting my dog chew on my phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:22 PM
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Yes. It’s like being set on fire starting at your leg and just cutting off body parts that are burned up instead of putting the fire out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:20 PM
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As the people in the city move further out since they can’t afford to live there the property values further out are also being pushed up
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:17 PM
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Except for the literal proof of you following me around, sure. When are you going to stop stalking me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:14 PM
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Says the person literally stalking me. When are you going to stop stalking me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:10 PM
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I’m so upset that I followed you around to a completely different topic and spammed your comment. Oh wait, you did that. When are you going to stop stalking me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:03 PM
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The literal stalker is calling me a creep. I’m not the one looking for your comments to piss and moan on am I?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:59 PM
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It doesn’t take a genius to figure out the main reason why. Living in a city is stupidly expensive. People can’t afford kids when they can’t even afford rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:57 PM
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I didn’t even remember your handle. You’re so upset you’re scouring this forum to engage with me. It’s pathetic and for sure creepy. You should really stop being a stalker.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:51 PM
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It’s following me around because you didn’t at all reply to my comment or the OP you brought over an argument from a different comment because you’re so butthurt over it. You’re literally a cyber stalker.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:47 PM
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Then why are you so hard up on mine following me around? Also I’ve said several times I’m not interested in any of the women interested in me. I’m happily married. Nice total misrepresentation of my argument though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:39 PM
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https://www.saltwire.com/atlantic-canada/news/speed-dating-event-in-membertou-cancelled-due-to-lack-of-men-283597/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:38 PM
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Hahahahahahahahaha you sell your pussy for money and you’re so desperate for my attention you’re literally following me around this sub. Tell me more about how high value you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:33 PM
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Yeah like the facts that you sell your pussy for money and hotter girls that you offer me theirs for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:21 PM
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Yeah I’m the one who’s triggered considering you’re so upset that I’m out of your league you have to find all my comments and whine about them on completely different posts. Notice how Im not the one doing that? It’s because you’re not different than any other prostitute. I couldn’t care less about you and your issues. Bet you wish you could say the same huh? You could, but the evidence is right here that you’d be a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:15 PM
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They have one, report the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:58 PM
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The prostitute is chiming in on another thread. Look how triggered you are having to find my comments and whine all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:56 PM
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There are plenty of men who face these issues from women, if you want to talk about being dismissed I can’t even press rape charges if you put a gun to my head and force me to penetrate you in the majority of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:55 PM
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Sooooo much salt lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:25 PM
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Bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:09 PM
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Just commenting with the same level of value as your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 06:26 PM
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But they WILL say yes and bilk him for free meals and goodies. Women do that all the time, and it's exactly the same as a man just using them for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 06:18 PM
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I'm not at all insecure and I couldn't care less who you do or do not fuck. Just stating facts that if men only want you for sex you need to look at men who are lower on the totem pole. It has nothing to do with me whatsoever. I wasn't extending you an invitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 06:05 PM
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I don't feel inferior at all, and I'm not alone. Stop projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 05:51 PM
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I read it just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 05:20 PM
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So you admit that you are fucking Chad and Tyrone and avoiding men you feel are below you, but yet wonder why these men aren't committing to you? It's because these men are out of your league. If men are using you for sex and not talking to you as a girlfriend it's because they feel they can do better than you. Lower your expectations if you want a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 04:56 PM
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Then they aren't "average" relative to you. If they aren't interested in you for a relationship they feel they can do better than you. Whether or not that is true is far less relevant than the belief that it is so. I guarantee that a man of any SMV who is with a woman that he felt was his equal or better would commit to her and have a long term relationship with her not just call her at 3am to drain his balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 04:54 PM
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Do it when women are older than 30 too. There are speed dating for mid 30’s that literally have to pay men to attend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:05 PM
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Men are absolutely thirstier by every metric. It is the basis these male spaces are built on. Dissatisfaction, loneliness, depression, lack of validation for SEXUAL acceptance from women They aren't, not at all. Women are just sexually thirsty for fewer men than men are for women. They aren't less thirsty though. I'm also not "putting women down" at all I'm just pointing out reality. You don't like it, too bad. I'm not at all embarrassed because I have nothing to be embarrassed about. I don't at…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:48 PM
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Oh I misread your first comment. Apologies. Yeah what you say makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:16 PM
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“Why does it bother you so much that there are women over 30 who don’t need to settle”. It doesn’t, you’re not in my dating pool I am married and if I wasn’t I could date someone who has everything you have but is at least 10 years younger. “I don’t like kids so I am not in a rush to reproduce”. Like you even can at this point. Without some serious medical intervention your chances of becoming a first time mother at 37 are pretty slim. “Women have more options than men do all our lives deal with…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:27 PM
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And that reverses at about 30 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:23 PM
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Lol I love that rationalization at the end. It’s much easier to pretend it’s your choice I know, and admitting the truth wouldn’t change your reality anyways. Let’s analyze this shall we? You’ll “never settle” for someone who’s just okay, fair enough. Ask yourself why those are the only men you have left to choose from? It’s because the men you wouldn’t have to settle for are dating the 27 year old you. That’s why you can’t find a suitable partner, because partners you find suitable date younger…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:52 PM
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Then why are you arguing with me? If you already admit that you’re a couple steps down from your equivalent man on the desirability scale it’s proving my point. Sure you may still have options but you have to settle for them. The man who is your equivalent is dating that 27 year old version of you unless neither of you are very successful then who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:33 PM
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On tinder sure, but the guys on there are just looking for a place to bury their meat sword. Women have an easier time getting laid but that 30 year old man is going to have an easier time finding a legitimate life partner. EDIT to add: plus that 30 year old woman is going to not be able to find an equivalent man her age anymore. She’s already on the downward slide. What I mean is if she is highly successful and well educated and in great shape her male counterpart is already dating younger girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:24 PM
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That’s totally untrue and there’s an entire crop of 30-40 something “throwaway” women all over the world finding this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:06 PM
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Men aren’t thirstier than women though and a whole lot of women who thought this are now in their mid 30’s finding this out. Then their only recourse is radical feminism and where have all the good men gone articles. There are certain age groups that women do better but it is a small window of time that quickly vanished. This whole “women have the upper hand” thing is a smoke screen and we are seeing more and more how untrue it is as the world becomes full of thirty and 40 something year old bit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:53 AM
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If all women approached equally with men then the same tier of man would have the same level of options so even this explanation is bullshit. I’ve been approached tons of times personally. So still not a valid argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:43 AM
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I don’t agree that the “I don’t want to be settled for” excuse makes any sense because that same negative applies to men. I don’t want to be settled for either, so why do women get to declare that as a fair think but men can’t. Doesn’t make sense and isn’t a valid argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:31 AM
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Unless they have their own firms they aren’t the guys I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:45 AM
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So is extreme success. You don’t push for more than average if you don’t care about status.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:59 PM
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I'm way more concerned with status and appearance than most women. I just don't see this as true for a large subsection of guys. Most successful guys are pretty status obsessed if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:36 PM
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The right to choose parenthood after conception The right to genital integrity The right to vote. Men don’t have this in the US because we have to buy ours by signing up for the draft. Now where’s the one legal right men have that women don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 10:13 PM
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You'll get over it.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 05:38 PM
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Fair enough. I was trying to play off your joke, apparently unsuccessfully
/r/MensRights14/06/21 05:05 PM
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That is open to interpretation right? I would argue that this could possibly qualify. Maybe not but it is certainly a grey area.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 04:37 PM
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Nah, it's still illegal just no one cares since it's a female. Same result though I 100% agree the pussy pass is real
/r/MensRights14/06/21 03:39 PM
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She's not allowed to walk around with that gun in her hand in Texas either. It has to be holstered but it can be open or concealed
/r/MensRights14/06/21 03:38 PM
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SHE SHOULDNT BE HOLDING IT. It should be holstered and either completely concealed or holstered and visible depending on the state’s laws.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 12:07 PM
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The fact that it’s not holstered is what makes it brandishing. In some states even seeing the grip of a holstered firearm is considered brandishing. In all states completely pulling it is.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 12:06 PM
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By holding it like that she is brandishing
/r/MensRights14/06/21 12:02 PM
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Obviously someone could see it because someone else took the picture lol.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:59 AM
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Yea we do know because people who are feeling threatened don’t stop to take pictures.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:59 AM
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I used to live in one of top 10 highest crime cities in the country. This is not a legitimate argument.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:58 AM
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Yeah you have, several times with your “mAyBe sHe fEElZ tHreAtNeD” when she is clearly posing for a photo op.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:49 AM
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Brandishing is the DISPLAY of a firearm. That is what she is doing here, displaying a firearm without a legal reason.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:49 AM
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They have, which is why I know this is brandishing
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:48 AM
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IT. DOESNT. MATTER.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:47 AM
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Yeah, people like you give us gun owners a bad name. You clearly know shit, and the fact that you think you’re allowed to walk around flashing your gun whenever you want makes you an idiot and you’re probably guilty of brandishing yourself.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:47 AM
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I’ve used a CCW twice in the real world to defend myself and both times filed a police report afterwards. Both times I was justified and even got congratulated by the police for successfully defending myself. In those situations I didn’t stop to take a fucking picture because I looked cool lol
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:46 AM
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Lolz. She’s posing for a fucking picture. She is not being threatened. She’s looking at the gas pump posing for a photo op. It’s so obvious to everyone with an IQ above room temperature she’s not being threatened.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:44 AM
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Yes it does apply here and if you knew what it was you’d know how it applied. Just look at the upvote count between you and I it’s very clear you’re the one who doesn’t know what you’re talking about.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:40 AM
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I want to know what firearms instructor told you that you can walk around with a gun in your hand so I can get their license pulled. Give me the name of their organization.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:39 AM
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You don’t even know what an appeal to authority is? Yikes my guy.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:38 AM
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I know you’re the perfect example of someone who’s proud to be wrong. You don’t have to point it out it’s obvious
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:36 AM
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Lol I clearly know much more than you do, like how it’s illegal to pose with your firearms in public places like that. I think you need a refund on those classes
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:35 AM
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Yes it is.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:33 AM
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Lol nice appeal to authority. Except you have no fucking clue who I am.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:33 AM
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Yeah I always spam comments when I’m not at all upset.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:32 AM
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Say stupid shit on the internet clearly
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:27 AM
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Lol
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:26 AM
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Holy fucking waterfall posting. Triggered much?
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:26 AM
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Lol if she’s holding and posing for pictures I can say with confidence she doesn’t feel threatened in this moment. Now you’re just reaching and it’s making you sound even worse.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:23 AM
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She’s clearly waving it around as she’s posing for a fucking photo op. That absolutely meets the definition of brandishing that you just posted. It would fall under the “excitement” part. Thanks for proving my point for me.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:20 AM
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Let me make this real clear for you. If it’s not a defensive situation where legitimate display of the firearm is warranted it is an illegal action. What they call that action varies by state but it would either be brandishing in most states or disorderly conduct.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:19 AM
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And if she’s posing for pictures it’s pretty obvious she isn’t being threatened at all. She’s clearly holding her gun to look like a hard ass and it has absolutely nothing to do with feeling afraid. Same reason her designer purse’s label and the fact that she’s driving an Audi is clearly visible. This whole thing is some dipshit photo op which makes it a crime in a public place. If this was her house or other private property it would be different but unless she owns a gas station this isn’t her…
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:14 AM
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I’m pretty much every state having it pulled completely like that is going to be considered brandishing. Especially since this is clearly a photo op of her trying to look tough while pumping gas.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:12 AM
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The brandishing wouldn’t be a crime you’d be charged with no but you would be charged with illegal possession of a firearm but that’s whether you pulled it or not.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 12:39 AM
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And I’m saying you’re wrong because if it was a legitimate threat than the display of the firearm would be legal.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 12:37 AM
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What’s with this illegal firearms business. Are you not aware that carrying a firearm is legal in most US states with the proper permit? Holding it in your hand as she is doing is NOT conceal carry it is brandishing a firearm.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 12:32 AM
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Wrong. Legal defensive gun uses are not brandishing and nothing about what she’s doing in this picture is legal nor is it legitimate defensiveness.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 12:29 AM
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No it doesn’t. If it’s a legal display of a firearm it is not brandishing.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 12:23 AM
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That’s called brandishing and is illegal. Good job lady committing crimes for a photo op.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 12:17 AM
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I would ghost them too. Lie down with dogs and you'll get fleas eventually
/r/MensRights13/06/21 03:33 PM
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Because judges use prenups as asswipe on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 12:01 AM
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Not with modern divorce law you can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:58 PM
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Or get rid of welfare. Why am I paying for this bullshit at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:53 PM
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A fancy way of saying you have no retort that’s worth anything so you’re going to pretend you have better things to do. If that were true you wouldn’t be in a debate group to begin with who’s entire purpose is discussing things like this. Perhaps you need to take some actual responsibility for how you spend your time and assess where it’s best used. May I suggest spending that time talking to male victims of female rapists in the hopes that you might get some empathy and stop telling these men h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:07 AM
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I agree and that’s why I said some truth. I think it’s going to be seen as the ideal but not lived or died by.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:02 AM
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No I don’t. I barely have time to interact here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:02 AM
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I think you’ve greatly exaggerated the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 12:58 AM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:33 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:32 PM
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That's because of your misandry. NOW is the single biggest feminist organization in the entire world so perhaps educate yourself on the leader of your own movement. MOST men take half or more of the parenting duties or would be more than happy to do so if offered. In fact, men make up 70% of all child support orders but despite that more women are in arrears or so called "dead beats" of child support by both number AND percentage. So if anyone is more likely to shirk their responsibilty statisti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:06 PM
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We do, and feminists crash our shit, pull fire alarms at our conferences or lobby against us. They ruin men's issues on purpose like NOW's 40 year history fighting AGAINST shared parenting legislation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:48 PM
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It doesn't take a genius to figure out that a reasonable person would be against purposely excluding men from the definition of rape when their assailant is a woman. What's more shocking is people like you who are implying men should be GRATEFUL for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:19 PM
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"Although consideration of male victims is within the scope of the legal statutes, it is important to restrict the term rape to instances where male victims were penetrated by offenders. It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual intercourse with a woman. p. 206” That sounds like a feminist going out of their way to do shit things to men to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:53 PM
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Oh you mean the statement from Mary Koss, one of the architects of that bill specifically excluding male victims of made to penetrate and outright saying that's not an equivalent crime? Like that? Imagine supporting that in seriousness and still claiming you're for equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:52 PM
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If that were true we'd see some actual movement on that front from feminists. So either the amount of people who actually and truly believe that are really small, too small to make a difference or they just don't care enough to do anything about it and would rather just advocate for special privilege instead of the equal responsibilities. In short, actions matter and words largely don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:18 PM
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Sure I did, there are no feminist organizations fighting for women to be drafted. That's my point, and women being considered for the draft wasn't feminism's intention it was an unintended consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:17 PM
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They are minimal though and there’s no real proof you or anyone else has provided that proves otherwise. There are loose correlations with higher incidences of certain things but it’s by no means the be all end all you’re making it out to be. In the grand scheme of child rearing it’s barely on the scale of importance for successful offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:56 PM
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The lying comes from the intentionally ignoring my actual argument. My argument was never that breastmilk isn’t better, it’s that the level of better it is would be statistically insignificant by in large. You’ve done nothing to prove that untrue. If it’s 1% or 5% better long term it’s meaningless. Not to mention most of the so called benefits are immediate benefits, not lifelong benefits and there’s no study out there showing conclusively there being any appreciable difference on a long enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:12 PM
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“Most marriages have dual income” and again according to the definition of breadwinner and how different amounts work that is a meaningless statement. A wife making 15k a year part time barely counts imo and you’ve shown me nothing to prove that your “dual income” isn’t mostly that. So now we are switching to “men are lazy too” instead of “it’s men’s fault their wives are lazy” after I pointed out the same reasoning can be applied to abuse victims? So a whataboutism instead of victim blaming now…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:06 PM
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“Most women don’t want to be housewives so that’s irrelevant”. Where’s your data backing that up? Also can we say that since most men aren’t rapists or beat their wives the ones that do are irrelevant? Why do you get to ignore lazy and entitled women who suck men dry and financially abuse people yet I’m supposed to be responsible as a gender for all the wife beaters and rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:56 AM
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“Depends on how you define breadwinner” Well this is the most no shit statement of the year isn’t it? Of course if you change the definition of the terms you can shoe horn it into whatever you’d like. What the term breadwinner meant historically is someone who financially supports the family. When the income is split there is NO breadwinner based on the historical meaning of the word. If you are a full two income household dependent on both neither one is the breadwinner unless you could support…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:48 AM
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That’s a lot of words to admit you’re full of shit. How dare I expect that you back up your claims with actual evidence, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:33 AM
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Are you intentionally lying about my arguments? Breastfeeding is barely superior and the benefits are being greatly exaggerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:31 AM
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That’s all well and good that women pushed for being integrated in the military but that wasn’t to open the draft to women, it was a double standard like most of feminism. Women can join whatever if they WANT to, but heaven forbid we force them to. We can only force men to die on the battlefield right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:27 AM
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We don’t see women looking for men who will be good staying home with the children. Women don’t want that, they don’t claim to want that except for some super rare cases. Even your 1/3 statistic is mostly bullshit because it includes some woman making 46k a year when her husband makes 42. I don’t consider her a breadwinner anymore that I would consider him one if the situation was reversed. Point being there are plenty of women dating to find a man that will let her sit home on her ass but almos…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:25 AM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:10 AM
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Based on your non stop whining. It’s an objective truth not a feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:02 AM
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Just the ones who are whiners.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:01 AM
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The entirety of your comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:53 AM
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You’re not though, because you’re here whining about it. Whining about your interactions with me but not doing anything about it and just pissing and moaning in general. It’s real obvious why you’re so dissatisfied with your life, you refuse to take any responsibility for your own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:51 AM
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Wut? Another thing on the list of things you say that make no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:50 AM
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That’s really modern feminism in a nutshell though isn’t it? Women blaming men for the consequences of their own shit tier decision making.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:38 AM
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Imagine thinking that you’re a victim for a conversation you’ve instigated. Oh poor you so much oppreshuns.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:37 AM
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No according to the fact that your actions don’t match up with your rhetoric. If you were such a scared little flower that needed to protect yourself you wouldn’t have such a massive attitude problem. You just fake the woe is me victimhood but no one is buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:33 AM
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So your “protecting yourself from strange men” is total bullshit. Is anything you say true?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:30 AM
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I said the same thing at 20,21,22,23,24 and then I was married for a couple years and was ready to try. I have a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:27 AM
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Protecting yourself from “strange men” is following me around like a lost dog and staying on a comment string where you’re not wanted? Sorry, not buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:59 PM
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So you’re going to hang around somewhere that you know you aren’t wanted because you’re so desperate for my attention. That’s actually pretty sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:44 PM
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Stop making excuses and be gone. I don’t want to deal with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:02 PM
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That was a super long diatribe to admit you have a chip on your shoulder. I’m not your whipping boy for your daddy issues so either drop the attitude or see yourself off my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:55 PM
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That doesn’t at all prove your argument. How much is it better by, .5%, 2% 100% we have enough data to determine that it’s closer to that 2% than the 100%. That means it’s practically meaningless correcting for other factors. Unless you can post a study showing otherwise, and a study on different formulas ain’t it, then concede that I’m correct or pipe down.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:54 PM
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“We know what men want they are desperate for sex” then why all the hostility over men not spending time with you lot? If it was true that men were constantly hounding you to the point that you’re never left alone you wouldn’t be whining about men who ignore you for video games or whatever other hobby which is what at least 60% of the OP so I’m not buying it. Plus as man who’s satisfied with his choices available to him in the sexual marketplace I know there are not a lot of people of either gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:34 PM
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Where did I say that? I said that WOMEN’s actions are at least 50% responsible here. Not one single time did the OP, or you for that matter, stop to ask yourself “what’s in it for men” because you don’t give a shit since you’re part of the problem. Want to know where that 50% women’s fault comes from, comments like yours. Snarky strawmen instead of good faith questions seeking to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:18 PM
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People who actually are a big deal don’t need to announce it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:04 PM
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Also "adoption at any time" was in reference to how as a pregnant woman you can get an abortion, or put the kid up for adoption with absolutely no sign off from anyone else, even the child's father. I'm not interested in debating the merits of that, but simply bringing it up because the assertion that women are "mandated by society" to raise their children is laughable at best, and that was the comment my comment was referring to, not the ease of being able to adopt someone else's child.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:15 PM
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Then foster. It's much easier to become a foster parent. Life is about choices, and you aren't forced into getting pregnant this rebuttal is an explanation of why you don't want to do these things like adopt or foster or not have children, not proof of you being forced into gestating children. That is not, nor has it ever happened in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:12 PM
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I love how this entire thing is framed as 100% men's fault and a result of men's actions when in reality this is at least 50% woman's fault. Let's take a look at when men have to choose from today by in large for female partners once. We have landwhales, man hating radical feminists, women literally selling their ass's to any man willing to pay for it and a small portion of decent and faithful women. Add in the extremely lopsided child support and divorce laws and you have a recipe for men sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:02 PM
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Sure, but you can say that about almost any social issue. The people that are successful are the ones who are able to get their own biased thinking as unbiased and objectively accurate as possible. Lots of the men who "may need to bang hot women" won't ever get the chance, and frankly women are not a prize to be won. That sounds like a super feminist thing to say, but it's actually not. The reason it isn't is because once that "eye on the prize" mentality focus goes away there's no reason for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:58 PM
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100% correct
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:29 PM
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I never said there was an issue with that, I said that it's not necessary it's a choice. What "huge claim" did I make that needs to be cited? All the claims I made are easily verifiable, simply by the fact that what I say exists does and we all know examples of it. You OTOH have not cited any claim you've made like how breastfeeding is so much better that formula is scientifically considered inferior, considering how i've seen tons of research showing that the benefits of breastfeeding are extre…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:38 PM
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For what it's worth I very much raise my son to know that this lifestyle is an option and that he needs to focus on himself and finding a hobby and self improvement. That if he's going to partner with someone she needs to pull her own weight and prove to him that she's a good catch just as much as he is expected to prove to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:24 PM
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Sounds like maybe you should bottle feed then if it's such a hardship for you. You are trying to justify your choice as making you a martyr. You've shown NO evidence for why bottle feeding is worse as you claim, your entire proof structure rests on "because I said so". I'm afraid that doesn't fly in a debate forum, perhaps you shouldn't be in this group if that's how you're going to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:20 PM
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No woman ever HAS had to be the stay at home parent either, and that's the point. What species off offspring do you have that you need to feed every 10 min? I'm implying that being a stay at home mother is 100% a choice and unnecessary for children. I'm outright saying that stay at home father is just as good of a choice and in may situations better. Stop confusing something you've willingly chosen with oppression, it's not and you absolutely aren't forced into that role.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:13 PM
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My best friend is mid 30's in great shape and has a decent job, his own decent condo and can live a pretty good lifestyle. When you ask him if he plans on dating now he says there is no point, and he would rather just do things the way he wants to. He had limited dating success and found that the women he was dating didn't meet the expectations he had so he voluntarily opted out. Sure he could settle, but he would rather live his own life. People like him, and you, are becoming more and more com…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:06 PM
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No it's not lazy to breastfeed, nice strawman. It's lazy to use breastfeeding as an excuse to not take equal responsibility for your household. It's lazy to act like a martyr for your own choices, and use those choices as justification why you shouldn't have to take care of yourself in the modern age.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:57 PM
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I have PLENTY of knowledge being a parent myself with a wife who after maternity leave went back to work full time. I just didn't marry a lazy and entitled woman, I guess that's the difference. She didn't make crazy excuses without any scientific backing, she just got shit done.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:48 PM
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Sounds like a total bullshit excuse to me honestly, and saying that formula has "many adverse health effects" is total nonsense and no legitimate research has come up with that conclusion. Stop trying to act like a victim for things that you are 100% CHOOSING to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:43 PM
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It's also worth noting that you have to come up with total nonsense that's completely unquantifiable like "sexism" and "social mandates" because women don't face any legal discrimination unlike men do in the west. How about before making thigs up that are totally imaginary you tell me one legal right men have that women do not, since I can name you 3 the other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:26 PM
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LOLZ. With things like adoption at any time and even women being able to literally just walk out of the hospital leaving their child, what world are you living in that women are mandated to raise their kids? You're delusional, the only gender that's at all mandated to raise their kids is men with child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:22 PM
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Sexually successful men generally don't care about a woman's past so long as it doesn't have a history of cheating or prostituting themselves. With that said a man with very few partners has just as much of a right to expect their partner has a similar number. Just like with any other expectation though, you have a right to expect it but you don't have the right to force anyone else to meet it. I am 100% allowed to sell my apple core, what's left from my lunch, for 10K dollars but I cannot force…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:12 PM
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And? Breast pumps exist, and formula exists. These are decisions available to you now, you're free to take them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:57 PM
10

Because you feel entitled to male attention. That's fine, you have every right to demand whatever you'd like. Just don't complain if you don't get it is all I ask. There's absolutely no reason men have to be the ones to make the first move in the age of equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:31 PM
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I think there's some truth there but that no hymen no diamond thing is going to come true more and more as time goes on simply because more and more men are dropping out of the dating pool entirely. Beta bucks is increasingly becoming seen as not worth it by men as men are forced to spend their 20's alone they are developing hobbies outside of women and dating. That's why so much hate is directed towards men's hobbies like video games and fixing cars and whatever. These men are called "man child…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:26 PM
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Then why have the only pushback to draft laws came from men's rights groups? I keep hearing that feminists are for being drafted yet opposition for it comes from many feminist groups like NOW. Just like feminists say that they are for default shared parenting yet NOW has a 40 year history fighting and lobbying against shared parenting legislation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:23 PM
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Then don't complain about roles you're willing to take. There are options to not take them, so it's not men imposing them on you. Also yes you have to gestate the child but as a father myself, breast feeding isn't a lifelong obligation and men are perfectly capable to staying home with the children. I have a friend of mine who is a successful banking executive and her husband stays home and raises the children. Meeting them they are both very well suited to their chosen roles, So i'm not really …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:21 PM
5

Adopt. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:50 PM
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"Meaningless card" that means if the government that women also get to vote for wants to send you to involuntarily die on some foreign battlefield they can. That's pretty tough talk from the gender that doesn't at all have to put that level of social engagement into anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:46 PM
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I don't see this future coming true at all honestly. Sure, it looks like that's what we are moving towards right now and I'll 100% grant you that but it's just because of an easy risk/ reward scenario. It also doesn't factor in all the "alpha widow" women running around. I would say the majority of women who chase the top 20% of men wind up discarded. I however don't see the beta bucks guy coming in to scoop these women up in the coming years. As the sexual marketplace becomes more lopsided many…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:44 PM
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Women who are the "man" are bad, but men doing all the work for women is okay. If being the "man" in the relationship was the better deal, women like you would take it instead of whining about it. Here you are talking out of both sides of your mouth, which is really common for a feminist. It's really interesting how a woman who has to take the lead in a relationship is "carrying the man on her back" but a man doing the same is "equality" LOLZ
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:16 PM
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Imagine being so privileged that you don't know that EVERY male at 18 years old in the USA STILL has to register for the draft. Switzerland too. Women were not EVER second class citizens that is a slanted and blatantly false interpretation of history. The more correct historically accurate take is a few upper class men had it best, then ALL women, then the majority of men. That's how the social division worked, and largely still works today. There is actual codified legal discrimination against …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:11 PM
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The entire premise of this is utterly false, a complete distortion of history and totally devoid of considering all the historical obligations men had. In short it’s a joke. Females were never historically subjugated and when put in context of the time period men had equally shitty obligations. Hell, we still have an only male draft and male genital mutilation is still in common practice in the western world although thankfully falling out of favor. There’s honestly no point in discussing this p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:26 PM
5

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:05 PM
100

High status men have always had standards for who they marry. This is nothing new and it isn’t going to change anything for the simps out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:58 PM
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Then explain the hundreds of “where did all the good men go” articles strewn about the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 05:21 PM
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Bullshit. We all know the 20 year old who brags about getting paid to sell her ass to 40 year old corporate guys too. We all know the woman who is writing where did all the good men go articles in their 30’s and 40’s whining about how men their age are dating younger women. I could throw a rock and hit one of those articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 05:20 PM
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Good for you, maybe reread my post before getting in a hissy fit over it. My very first sentence is a good clue. It doesn’t say “manipulation is never involved” it says that calling it manipulation always is bullshit, which by your comments you seem to agree with. So I’m not understanding why you’re arguing against a point I didn’t make.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 04:32 PM
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and BOTH exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 04:29 PM
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I think calling it manipulation across the board is bullshit personally. I think a lot of 30 something women piss and moan about men their age being interested in younger women out of simple jealousy because they are no longer sought after. You can’t convince me that some 21 year old sugar baby getting cars and designer shit from rich men doesn’t know exactly what she is doing. She’s not being used in the least bit, at least no more than the guy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 04:03 PM
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Well she knows that she’s putting heroin In her body lol. Better question is why are you hanging out with a heroin addict family or not?
/r/MGTOW203/06/21 03:49 PM
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This is an example of correlation not equaling causation, or perhaps even an opposite correlation than what is suggested. What I mean is that the assertion is that men become dysfunctional because they are single, when they could be single because they already were dysfunctional. This is probably more likely the correlation and this explanation explains those nasty ass radical feminists too. They are single man haters because they are dysfunctional, not lack of dick driving them to be crazy femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:01 PM
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This is 100% the answer the correlation isn't causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:58 PM
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Dude my mom is a good person. Sure she has her faults but she always does her best by me. You’re speaking for yourself on this one.
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 12:13 PM
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Okay say it’s true roughly the same percentage of the time that men make the same complaint about your spouse. If that’s true then it’s not a male problem it’s a people problem and the effort required is the same for both sexes to fix it. That would invalidate your entire argument because it hinges on men needed to be at some sort of fault to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:25 AM
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Just because they complain about it doesn’t mean it’s true. They could be misinterpreting or placing unwarranted blame in many of these cases you’ve heard about. It is possible for people to blame others for their own problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:22 AM
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Who says men don’t put effort in marriages? Sort of a broad statement don’t you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:20 AM
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100% true
/r/MGTOW231/05/21 03:53 PM
1

They aren't naturally more attractive, they put more effort into their appearance. There's a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:19 PM
1

You’ve said goodbye at least ten times now. Let’s see when you’ll actually mean it, or maybe I’m speaking to a different personality every time. Who knows, you are nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:19 PM
1

No like come up with your own thoughts instead of just repeating mine back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:43 PM
1

Original to this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 04:12 PM
2

Telling you you're "mansplaining" is code for you're smarter than they are and therefore they don't have a valid response
/r/MensRights30/05/21 04:11 PM
1

I already said that about you. Can't get an original thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 04:04 PM
1

So my greater intelligence is helping you to pull your head out of your ass? Okay I'll go with that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 03:56 PM
1

So you don't want to interact with me, yet my aggravating you is making you continue to respond but you're disputing the contention that I'm successfully annoying you? LOL nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 02:18 PM
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I agree if you're going to turn a relationship into something transactional then you should make it 100% transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 02:17 PM
1

Yea it did, or you wouldn’t keep responding
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 01:17 PM
1

Glad to see it worked so well
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 01:06 PM
1

I posted it to annoy people like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 12:26 PM
1

I’m not talking about how my post is important or that I’m creating a great social impact. My self esteem isn’t contingent on my interactions on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 12:16 PM
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Maybe if you stopped being such a grandiose moron we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Imagine thinking anything you do on Reddit does anything for the survival of the species. This is how I know you’re a total loser. Only people with zero real world accomplishment celebrate their interactions here as important.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 12:10 PM
1

Well yeah because nothing bad ever happens in fantasy land amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:56 AM
1

Lol you are delusional too. You have some serious delusions of grandeur.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:52 AM
1

Wut? An insult is not an ad hom genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:27 AM
1

Because I’m not insane like you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:04 AM
1

I stopped taking you seriously after your first comment
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 02:25 AM
1

You’ve abandoned rationality a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 01:59 AM
1

Of course you don’t believe in mental illness, most mentally ill people don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 01:52 AM
1

What needs to be done is you get heavily medicated for your psychosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 01:28 AM
1

Wut? You really overestimate your importance don’t you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 01:20 AM
1

My life is without a doubt better than yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 12:31 AM
1

Yeah that’s unfortunate for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 12:27 AM
1

Then you better stop, you can’t afford to get any dumber.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 12:26 AM
1

What? Do you have split personalities?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 12:22 AM
1

What the hell do criminals have to do with you being triggered. Are you insane?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 12:14 AM
1

You’ve said many times you don’t want to be social with me, that you don’t like this interaction and were only doing it to protect other people or some other stupid shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 11:59 PM
1

Says the person typing essays.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 11:55 PM
1

Awwww your feels are hurt. Imagine being this mentally weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 11:36 PM
1

I notice how you deleted another paragraph before posting this response. How does it feel to be such a triggered little bitch?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 05:27 PM
1

I’ll try to calm Tyrone down when he calls me later to make fun of you and try to limit your grounding to 3 days no internet but if you keep avoiding your chores I think he’s going to give you a spanking. Oh wait… I think that’s what you’re after. I’m gonna have to tell Tyrone you’re starting to get off on his spankings.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:53 PM
1

The majority of women are better looking than their male partner. Better put together, better style and better appearance. That is changing in some relationships but so is the man as sole or primary breadwinner role. A partnership is an amalgamation of different characteristics in order to get a total “relationship value” score and if you aren’t the best in one area you can make up for it somewhat by being better in another.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:51 PM
1

He’s gonna take away your phone next if you keep talking to me on Reddit instead of doing those chores like you were told. Do you want to be grounded from Reddit too?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:43 PM
1

And there’s a difference between sex and dating. While many men will sleep with a woman they don’t find attractive they aren’t going to be parading her around calling her their girlfriend to their buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:30 PM
1

No need to be upset. Tyrone will give you your switch back as soon as you finish your chores. You still have to change the sheets on the bed since Tyrone wiped his dick off on your pillow after plowing your old lady in the ass. You need to get the house ready for their date night, you know the rules. You have plenty of time to play Pokémon after. You can still catch em all if you hurry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:26 PM
1

Why all the hostility beta boy? Is your wife’s BF Tyrone taking your switch away again?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:06 PM
2

Anyone who is 1 or 2 out of 10 has a serious physical or mental deformity so no. If you were burned in a fire or have 3 eyes no amount of good fitting clothes is going to help you. That’s the kind of look that has little kids crying when you walk down the street. It sucks but it’s also a pretty small group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 11:54 AM
2

It’s absolutely true if you believe in the ranking system at all. Your dating pool is going to be bigger at a higher tier. Whether or not it’s still filled with people you like is up to your perspective and your sense of entitlement. If you’re a 3 who busts their ass to a 6 but still think you DESERVE a 9 you shouldn’t get a 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 11:47 AM
1

A bunch of other people disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 11:38 AM
2

Sure but a 3/10 that moves up to a 6/10 is going to be better off than one who stays at a 3
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 11:30 AM
1

I know because I deal with betas like you constantly throwing tantrums when I say shit that hurts your fee fees.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 11:21 AM
1

Another beta response.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 03:00 AM
1

That would be you incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 02:55 AM
1

Making losers write paragraphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 02:54 AM
1

Wut? You’re really good at saying irrelevant shit you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 01:30 AM
1

I bet your mother is proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 01:26 AM
1

Stop CHOOSING to respond then. I’m not making you do shit, take responsibility for yourself for one time in your miserable existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 01:19 AM
1

The only cunt here is you bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:50 AM
0

I’m in my mid 30’s and it’s a safe bet I make more than you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:37 AM
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It’s on account of that deep care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:34 PM
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In your dreams princess. Jealous of my Harley too. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:27 PM
1

I’ve been married a while I’m out of touch in the dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:11 PM
1

Wut?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:51 PM
1

I know that many of the things you think of as natural aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:50 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:46 PM
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You don’t know what natural beauty is then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:46 PM
0

I think you might need some TRT.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:45 PM
0

I’m a guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:35 PM
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I don’t care about your other comments, why are you trying to justify your actions to me? I know your T level is below 300 but this is low even for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:28 PM
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Lolz “I know you are but what am I”. Another soy filled response. What’s next, are we gonna break for commercial so you can tell us how great your Nintendo switch is?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:24 PM
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Last time I checked commenting here, or anywhere else on Reddit, was totally voluntary. I cannot waste the time of anyone who willingly gives it to me. At worst you could accuse me of wasting my own time, which I certainly am talking to you, but I accomplished my goals for the day so I deserve to waste a little time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:21 PM
1

Says I didn’t say anything of substance/ completely misunderstood my post in their comment. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:15 PM
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“Good faith”. The ONLY reason to comb through people’s post history is because you’re getting your ass handed to you and you’re upset about it. You should delete your account because your persona is dripping with Kikkoman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:14 PM
1

I know. It’s crazy how clueless you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:09 PM
1

Imagine not knowing that was a euphemism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:06 PM
1

That’s a lot of words to say basically nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:05 PM
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Imagine being so triggered by me you had to comb through my comment history.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:01 PM
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Thing is humans CAN run Mach 2 when they strap themselves into a jet. Sort of like how if one door is closed to you walking through another one is an option. And my title still matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:01 PM
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Are you trying to ask how a guy can be considered good looking if he’s broke? Because looks and career are two separate things and if you’re good looking you will be able to find plenty of women willing to date you for that reason alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:57 PM
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Absolutely it does. I’m not saying men who find partners by being a good provider are lazy. I’m just saying that it’s also effective to work on appearance as the threshold of “money needed” will be much lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:55 PM
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So you “don’t give a shit” about appearance and know next to nothing about improving yours yet still think your opinion is valid? Not only did you totally misunderstand my post, but you’ve made assumptions that I never at all said. “Women care about money as the most important period” then why do I know tons of guys, myself included that got more ass than a toilet seat without spending a single dollar? Sure some men have to pay and rape women like Weinstein did, but he could have just as easily …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:53 PM
1

Also if I was a betting man I’d wager I was your better by every single metric that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:45 PM
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Considering there are hundreds of comments from people with the brainpower to actually comprehend what I wrote I don’t think the problem lies with my post…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:44 PM
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Wow, that’s spot on except for the fact that I am a married, straight man and this post has absolutely nothing to do with what I find attractive. Good job at the reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:41 PM
2

Then you are either genetically gifted or you don’t have an accurate view of your skin condition
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:40 PM
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That’s 100% incorrect. I can without a doubt dress a fitness model women in clothing that makes her look fat and unattractive. I would bet money on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:33 PM
1

You must not live too close to the equator.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:32 PM
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I think you’ve missed the point of my post. The point is the “beauty ladder” that women climb to find a mate is also able to be used by men in order to find a mate. That’s my only argument here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:31 PM
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Yes because I care ever so deeply for the opinions of someone on an anonymous Internet forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:31 PM
1

If you think that you summarized my comment accurately then you need to work on your critical thinking skills. Considering at least 50 people made responses to my actual comment I’d say the problem is you, not my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:30 PM
1

Now I’ll thank you. Thanks for the gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:59 PM
0

No you wouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:56 PM
2

Look into some moisturizer, something with SPF 25 or greater.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:56 PM
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Why would I thank you for going out of your way to be an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:55 PM
1

Bill Gates’ wife looked like a man and they were married 20 some years. McKenzie Bezos was average until they had money even then she’s slightly above average. Elon Musk’s lady grimes looks like a monster IMO and not very attractive so the pinnacle of success doesn’t seem to match your comment. I’m in circles of some pretty successful men and all of our wives are not homely but 6’s, 7’s and 8’s are pretty much the standards. The thing about lots of really beautiful women, is they are really holl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:54 PM
1

Where did I say anything about who deserves anything? Excellent strawman there chief.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:33 PM
2

You act like being below average in one area means you cannot excel in another to make up for the deficit in the first one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:33 PM
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I’m on mobile and doing that is a pain in my ass. Seeing as how you were able to figure it out based on what I wrote clearly I did a good enough job communicating for it to be understood which is the purpose of communication. If you don’t like it, don’t respond but don’t act like you didn’t know what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:31 PM
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I’m not really getting where you’re going with this TBH, you’re either good with women or you aren’t. If you are and you don’t have any money but are good looking then it proves my point. If women are expressing interest in you but you are choosing not to date that still proves my point. I’m not entirely sure what your intended point was.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:30 PM
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I graduated school many years ago, so long as you can understand my point I’m doing good enough. Don’t like it, feel free to excuse yourself from my comments but I’m not going to waste my time on this nonsense any further. Let me know if you decide to make a comment worth responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:27 PM
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Smoothing out your complexion could go unnoticed and would greatly improve appearance. Same thing with wearing fitting clothes and carrying himself well. I dispute a woman with a 4 face turning herself into an 8 in a way that’s not obvious either. If you see a woman who looks like her face is a painted on mask you can assume she’s ugly so she isn’t exactly flying under the radar either, you can spot that from a mile away.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:25 PM
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It’s not “taking the piss” to make an entirely useless comment. Giving me a hard time would be saying something relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 07:32 PM
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Critiquing my grammar is your go to? That usually means that either the post is unreadable because the grammar is so bad, or you have nothing of value to say yet still feel like you need to put your two cents in. Considering the post has over a hundred comments, I’m thinking it’s the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 07:30 PM
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Like 1% of people are “born lucky” and we ALL have issues to overcome. It’s completely up to you what effort you want to put in this is true, but the results are completely yours as well
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 07:28 PM
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It would take a colossal effort. It wouldn’t be easy but it would be possible. I’m talking someone with influence, success and super well polished.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 07:02 PM
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I guess that it’s a good thing for me that whether or not it’s true isn’t contingent on whether or not you believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 07:00 PM
2

It seems like you’re replying to a comment I didn’t make.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 06:33 PM
1

7 total package not 7 looks that would take surgery
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 06:26 PM
1

6 figures is 100k a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 06:25 PM
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Sure except for the fact that I’m married, and even if I wasn’t can get laid stupidly easy and literally have women I could call up right now and be with if I wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 06:25 PM
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I think you’re way overestimating what is natural beauty and what is curated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 06:23 PM
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No doubt, but a 3 can still be a 5 or a 7 if the ascend the social ladder and become peak. I think lots of people severely underestimate how far they can go if they apply themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:58 PM
1

No doubt but the higher social/ class circles you go into the better put together EVERYONE is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:46 PM
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Ask MOST women if they would be into a man with makeup and a good portion of them would. I’ve seen dudes wearing makeup pulling tons of chicks at the bar, ones he couldn’t get otherwise. Pretty much every famous dude wears makeup and many even get plastic surgery. The shit you’re going to get isnt from women it’s from other guys. Also, your comment shows that you have no clue how to apply makeup or how it works as a concept because a man could be wearing it and you’d never know. Point is it’s no…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:45 PM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:42 PM
6

I see a lot of fat hobos in major American cities, even 20 something ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:39 PM
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If you’re 400lbs no shirts or pants are going to help you. If you’re 20lbs fatter than you should be clothing selection can make or break your appearance. The dude who’s got an extra 20 vs the catalog model physique guy clothes can make up that difference. If the model dresses like shit, and the dude with the extra 20 dresses better he will look better and get more attention than the ripped guy with ill fitting clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:39 PM
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Why? Wearing clothes that work for your body type is critical which is what my point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:34 PM
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Most people walking around look like fat hobos though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:32 PM
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I’m not fat, I was pulling out many hypothetical questions to prove a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:32 PM
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It is their own doing, but there are advantages that come with it. They get interest from men they wouldn’t otherwise. Men can take advantage of the same things should they want to. It’s not even about respect, I only made this because I’m tired of seeing posts from “red pill” dudes whining about how unfair it is that women can skate by on appearance when if they put in effort they would be able to take advantage of the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:31 PM
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100%. I put in probably half the effort that most women do and it’s 5x the amount most men do. I’m real polished for a man but honestly it’s not at all a high bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:25 PM
2

I’m a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:24 PM
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Point proven. I can answer my questions too. I use a daily tinted moisturizer with SPF 40 because the sun here is a bitch, I use a daily cleanser in the shower, a nightly scrub before bed, a mineral mask twice a week and retinol 3x per week(also part of the reason a sunscreen is so important during the day) You’ve covered the jeans things I wear tapered myself but only slightly as I’m not that big up top. You’re right with the shirts except on my body type I have a decent build so slim fit shirt…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:19 PM
2

Wut? “That’s up to those men” that doesn’t even make sense in the context of this conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:13 PM
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Totally wrong. Every single person can go up 2 or 3 whole numbers by taking care of themselves assuming they don’t have legitimate deformities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:12 PM
3

1%? 5%?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:11 PM
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Yup when I had 0 dollars I still got the attention I do now. People notice my appearance not my money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:10 PM
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Not at all what I’m saying, kind of the opposite of just take a shower. I’m saying if you put in a female level of effort as a man you’ll attract lots of women to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:10 PM
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Again, the women who DONT take these steps are the ones that stand out while almost no men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:09 PM
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I do, but not by much. He’s not ugly by any means and if he got a good haircut and took care of his skin we would have a negligible difference which is pretty much my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:19 PM
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There’s only one way to find out right? The point is not nearly enough men even put the base level of effort in TO find out
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:07 PM
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That shows you have no clue as to what is involved there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:04 PM
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A well groomed dude usually wouldn’t rank 5/10
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:56 PM
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Then you need reading comprehension lessons as that is not what I’ve said at all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:56 PM
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Exactly. My best friend is 6’4” and legit ripped, like catalog model appearance. I’m 5’10 and not ripped and when we were single I got way more attention together than he did. He’s not unattractive but dressed poorly and didn’t invest in style
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:56 PM
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I don’t think women who “go out in sweat pants with no makeup” get hit on super often, unless they do other beauty routines. The thing you don’t get is sure they might not be wearing makeup but they used two soaps on their face, wear a night cream and eat well and stay hydrated for decent looking skin. Sure they might be wearing sweats but those sweats are shaped and cut to flatter their figure. They aren’t wearing Hanes brand sweats from Kohl’s. The tl;dr the “no” effort is still a ton of effor…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:36 PM
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I’ve seen TONS of hugely fat people in big cities and half the people I see that have a following in Instagram are overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:33 PM
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I’m not talking the Uber elite income people, I’m talking your lawyer or doctor or engineer making low six figures. You can easily be an attractive man and snag an unattractive or less attractive woman with a job like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:32 PM
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I agree it SHOULD be bare minimum effort but it isn’t. Most people in the west are overweight or obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:30 PM
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100% this. The 50k roofer would be slaying with effort in appearance compared to poindexter with the pocket protector and beer belly at double the salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:29 PM
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No I totally agree it’s still stigmatized but I’ve seen straight men at the bar pull it off and usually it’s received well by women. They might get shit from other men, but they do pull women because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:28 PM
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How do you know that men won’t get that positive effect. I can tell you as a man who puts in the effort that I most certainly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:27 PM
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Lots of them are reviled. Called lesbians or whatnot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:19 PM
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I agree but I’ve seen many men do it that are received well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:18 PM
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“It’s certainly less common than the other way around” so you acknowledge it exists. It’s also much less common that men put a similar level of effort into their appearance than women do so we don’t really know if more men put effort into their appearance and we’re willing to date down looks wise if that situation would become more commonplace
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:54 PM
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Lol “women generally enjoy these things” sounds like a cop out to not acknowledge that they are effort not required of men. I cannot say that women enjoy these things universally I can say that the women who do not enjoy these things and do not do them are usually reviled or ignored by men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:50 PM
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Sorry for not categorizing it correctly, this is my first post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:36 PM
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And you don’t think eating healthy is effort? You don’t think doing cardio is effort? You don’t think picking out clothes, going to the salon or spending 45 min a day applying makeup is effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:36 PM
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Bullshit. Even “not be fat” when 70% of Americans are fat puts that woman in the top 30% of all women right off the bat. You just don’t recognize it as effort, doesn’t mean it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:35 PM
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And most men don’t put in the effort to look attractive so there being more attractive women doesn’t surprise me. Yes, women are willing to accept money and power in lieu of attractiveness but men are not. That’s more my point. If men were willing to up their appearance and date down on the looks ladder they could find a provider too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:34 PM
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And to pretend that it doesn’t also work out the other way a ton of times is just as much bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:31 PM
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That’s not at all true, and your correlation is backwards. You’re saying men don’t put effort into appearance because women don’t care about that. I’m saying women don’t care about that because most men don’t put that effort in. If you’ve never seen an unattractive woman who’s successful career wise with a man who’s attractive but unsuccessful then you’re either blind or a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:31 PM
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That’s the other point of the post. I do it because even though I’m married looking good makes me FEEL good about myself. I go to a legit barber every 3 weeks and get waxed and hair done perfectly. I get my eyebrows, my ears and my nose waxed. I always have a perfectly maintained high fade that I use products in every single day. I use 4 different face products including an SPF 40 daily face lotion. It’s honestly not hard, I don’t look in the least bit feminine if anything I look MORE masculine …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:11 PM
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That’s not at all the point of my post. The point, since you missed it, is that the common trope in here is men need to access the “success” side of the attractiveness ladder and women need to access the “attractive” side but that isn’t at all true. My reason for talking about what goes into looking good is that most men have not a single clue how much effort is required to be attractive, it’s probably an equivalent to the success ladder side and that if men wanted to focus their effort on looki…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:07 PM
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Exactly, but they could if they wanted and reap similar benefits for it. It’s 100% up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:03 PM
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You’re 100% right. I AM one of these men more or less. I am married so I focus on my appearance for my own self confidence but that’s why I made this post. By “falling down the rabbit hole” of looking good I’ve come to realize that it’s actually largely effort that separates attractive from unattractive in modern times. There are so many products available to take a 5 or 6 or a 8 or 9 that almost anyone who wanted to can bump themselves up a few integers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:01 PM
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Sure they do, but most men don’t marry trophy wives that are hot and treat them like shit and men aren’t willing to be the trophy husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:57 PM
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And women like screwing attractive men just as much, they are just more willing to see attractiveness in a different way than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:53 PM
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How does it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:52 PM
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You then qualified your “modicum of effort” as makeup, being worked out even a little bit, and wearing decent clothes. Most men don’t anywhere near approach that level of effort appearance wise. If you’ve never seen the dynamic where the pretty guy dates the unattractive woman and he is a total loser dependent you are either blind or lying to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:52 PM
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Most men don’t go with LTR with the average Stacy either. A good looking man who is broke will get much more ass than a man earning low six figures but puts in no effort in his appearance, and by much better looking women. The reason why these women “use them for sex” and don’t have LTRs is that the good looking but broke men won’t date an overweight but successful woman. I’ve seen that dynamic play out tons of times both ways, an average looking but successful man marries the trophy wife but I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:49 PM
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The thing you’re not getting is the “modicum of effort” women put in is 100x more than men do. You’re discounting the amount of work it takes for you to consider it a “modicum of effort” and that’s the entire point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:43 PM
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I’m the sort of man who 100% could do the trade them in thing. I don’t, and I think that’s stupid. I’m a pretty successful guy but my wife was with me when I had nothing, held my hand and supported me, built this life with me. I know that I can count on her and she’s going to do whatever she can to make sure we stay on top. Everyone wants to be your friend when you’re successful but many of those same people vanish if you backslide. I wouldn’t trade one legit supportive person for a harem of 20 …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:22 PM
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I’m married but it’s nice to know that I can set my expectations sky high based on this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:51 AM
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As a man who has the means to “trade them in” every few years I’m 0% interested in doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:57 AM
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Lol I’m not blocking you because I’ve easily dismantled your nonsense arguments. If you need to block me to run and hide because you keep getting stomped on then go ahead, you’re just telling everyone else what they already know anyways, that I am your intellectual superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:22 PM
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Because I have the ability to spot charlatans like yourself and can call out your BS before other people fall for it. Calling you out on your nonsense is basically a public service.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:16 PM
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Nope, because I’m pointing out your attempt and shaming and emotional abuse that’s not the same thing as saying it’s working.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:13 PM
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Then why are you acting like one? I’ll comment where I damn well please thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:13 PM
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Your comments are full of shit, your advice is terrible and your attitude is even worse. Now you’re continuing on with the gaslighting here, playing the victim like you’ve done nothing wrong when you’ve repeatedly insulted me personally and talked all sorts of shit. Don’t play the victim with me, you’re not a fucking victim here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 11:59 AM
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It’s pretty bigoted to assume that men on here were losers, but by we I meant this group in general. Judging by the feedback you’ve gotten so far, and your total lack of upvotes most people think you’re full of it. Now your misandry is showing which is also quite amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 11:56 AM
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I don’t hate women, you absolutely are not all women or thankfully even most women. You are just a wannabe that’s full of yourself and tries to use pathetic shaming an manipulation tactics when you don’t get your way. It’s not going to work on me, stop trying to gaslight and strawman me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 11:42 AM
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I’m willing to bet that by pretty much every metric I am out of your league princess. I would absolutely be the one turning you down. My life is so good that if I were to tell you the truth about it you’d think I was making it up because of this being the internet. I know what women actually want because I’m actually desired by women, many women all the time. I have a bigger problem avoiding being sexually harassed than I do finding a woman who is interested in me, and I’ve been married going on…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 11:08 AM
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Except for the fact that I’m married, successful by pretty much all metrics and pretty attractive. I get hit on all the time and would have a whole line of women ready to date me if I decided to but sure, tell me more about what it’s like being successful with women lol. You know nothing and your advice is terrible. You couldn’t be further from the mark with me, and you don’t even make a shred of sense for anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 11:04 AM
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Stretch the two harder to justify your nonsense, we aren’t buying it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:56 AM
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No they don’t, not in any clinical setting they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:30 AM
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How many cereal box tops do you have to send in to get life coach certified?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:27 AM
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With different types of qualifications. You aren’t qualified to give this advice, you’re a “life coach” which is a collective joke to the field of psychiatry and mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:04 PM
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So you’re not at all qualified to be giving the advice you’re giving. You’re not a man, and you’re not really a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 10:45 PM
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You can be kind with no backbone as well they aren’t mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 10:44 PM
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Yeah nothing that has anything to do with what you claim to be an expert in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 10:43 PM
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By their responses, you call yourself a therapist but you don’t know how to tell if someone is listening to you and you don’t know how to listen to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 06:23 PM
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It’s more like an expert in ripping people off. That’s a life coach.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:00 PM
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You’re terrible at your job because here you are telling a man what it’s like to be a man and not listening. I may or may not be a therapist but I do know a therapist’s number one job is to LISTEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 03:57 PM
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The thing is, if you’re not emphasizing alpha traits FIRST, you’re creating a doormat situation for sure. You can be a kind man, IF you’re a well put together man first. Telling men all they have to do is be a “nice guy” to get female interest is straight up lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 02:58 PM
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What? No, confidence HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HELPING OTHERS.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:27 PM
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Wrong again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:26 PM
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Irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:22 PM
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No it’s not at all. Altruism is doing things for others, it has absolutely nothing to do with confidence. If you don’t even know what words mean this is a big waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:22 PM
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Also you just contradicted your own article there chief. Your article says all a man needs to do is be altruistic to attract a woman, then you say he needs to be confident too. Confidence is an “alpha” trait so while you’re trying to post that the traditional viewpoint is wrong you’re simultaneously saying that you still need to be an alpha. Lolz way to go
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:19 PM
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And I’m a man, a real life man born with a penis and everything. I absolutely and without a doubt know more what it’s like to be one than you do so stay in your lane. I also have 20+ years of experiences dealing with women in a romantic or sexual context so I have a much more honest and accurate picture of what women want from men from a male perspective than you do as well. Since you want to go the appeal to authority route, the tl;dr here is im more of an authority than you are. You lose again…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:17 PM
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So because I don’t agree with you I’m hurt and wounded? My disagreement is a literal character defect? Imagine being so self righteous that you declare someone disagreeing as not only wrong but defective for doing so. The irony is your attempt at fake sympathy and gaslighting me here just proves my point. When you attempt to be decent to a woman like yourself the response you get is toxic and abusive. I’m not going to let you make things up out of whole cloth to distract from your nonsense artic…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:08 PM
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Total nonsense. This is meaningless, and even casual observation shows that the only women who want a doormat as a partner are those looking for someone to walk on
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 12:31 PM
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If finances are shared then yeah it does. If the woman expects him to pay for “dates” still it does as wel
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:24 PM
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If you’re living a lifestyle you cannot afford and it’s because your partner is paying more than you are then you are not independent
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:38 PM
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Good for you, doesn’t change the whole most thinly thing tho
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:16 PM
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So not less then. Got it. It’s acceptable the other way tho huh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:13 PM
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See this comment proves my point thanks. “Setting the bar low” in your eyes is a man who expects a woman to pay all her own bills and him his. Your default is getting a man to pay your bills yet you’re still arguing most women are independent. You don’t know what that word means.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:47 PM
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A choice huh, why does that “choice” work overwhelmingly one way?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:17 PM
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No you’re not. If you cannot afford your lifestyle on what you make you are not independent that’s not what the word independent means.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:15 PM
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No you couldn’t because most women expect men to out earn them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:10 PM
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Still doesn’t actually. If they are expecting a man to supplement their lifestyle because they don’t earn enough they are not independent
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:07 PM
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That doesn’t mean they are financially responsible or Independent does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:00 PM
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Good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:28 AM
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Okay. I’m gonna read between the lines myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 11:44 PM
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In theory sure, but that’s just a way to covertly say it without sounding like a gold digger. Most women aren’t financially independent ever, so if we are going by that as a metric…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 11:33 PM
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Because her rationale for why men aren’t marriageable is because they aren’t ready to be her wage slave yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 11:27 PM
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I got married at 23. I wouldn’t have married a woman if she expected me to pay all her bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 11:15 PM
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Getting a 14 year old drunk then molesting him, I hope this bitch gets the maximum
/r/PussyPassDenied16/05/21 01:07 PM
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No such thing
/r/MensRights16/05/21 11:44 AM
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I hate how what she did was simplified and downplayed as just calling the cops on dude for asking her to leash her dog. She threatened to lie to the cops about this dude putting his life in danger. She is the utmost level of shit, lying to the cops to get an innocent man thrown in jail or worse.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/05/21 11:24 AM
3

Disagreeing with trans as a concept isn’t being hateful.
/r/MensRights16/05/21 12:41 AM
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No one is being hateful of trans men on here. Just because we don’t focus on trans issues doesn’t mean we are hateful.
/r/MensRights16/05/21 12:30 AM
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It does mean that “trans” issues don’t need to be focused on by MEN’S rights groups. If you want to focus on the MEN’S issues a trans man might face sure but this isn’t a Trans advocacy this is MEN’S advocacy so be sure you know who’s rights you’re fighting for.
/r/MensRights16/05/21 12:25 AM
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Why don't we worry about MEN'S problems, not just Trans men's problems? Get back to me when trans men can be drafted, or have their genitals mutilated at birth.
/r/MensRights15/05/21 11:34 PM
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Which is why you as a man should harden yourself off to crocodile tears.
/r/MensRights15/05/21 11:12 PM
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Well yeah. Talking about this stuff “takes focus off women’s issues”. I’ve literally been told this.
/r/MensRights15/05/21 10:31 PM
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Boys don’t get rights to genital integrity remember? And here you are making the mistake of thinking that male infants are human beings.
/r/MensRights15/05/21 10:14 PM
14

Just take it easy after that vasectomy and ice is your friend.
/r/MGTOW211/05/21 02:37 AM
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Speak for yourself. I don’t have basic standards for women, I expect out of them what they expect out of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 11:35 AM
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I’m pretty good looking. I also have money and the more money you have the less you have to give women for them to be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 11:45 PM
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Noooooo it’s not. I get straight up hit on all the time and I’m in my mid 30’s. Way more than I did when I was in my 20’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 11:42 PM
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More relevant for some than for others I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 12:31 AM
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I’m aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:16 PM
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I know what I said for a fact by knowing people in that industry making those wages.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 10:45 PM
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