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It makes perfect sense. The men who aren't Chad are invisible to women, they aren't considered "men".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:49 PM
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Guys simply can’t get hookups and they’re upset about it. You frame this as a fault of men, when it is actually the fault of women having delusional standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:41 PM
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We are talking about in the context of the United States. Germany having a female chancellor or England having had a queen doesn’t change what the US does. Moving the goalposts. If the oligarchy is 99% men and 1% women does that somehow make it less a patriarchy? Absolutely. It it was a patriarchy there would be 0% women leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:22 PM
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So you believe that your girlfriend deserves the best of both worlds, but you yourself do not. There is a word for that...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:21 PM
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An oligarchy of men that makes rules to benefit the men at the top is a patriarchy. You'll just pretend that women aren't also world leaders then, not a good faith argument on your part. It means a handful of men have set up the rules to their benefit over all the other men and women. A handful of elite, not exclusively men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:04 PM
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They don't put effort into women's pleasure during casual sex Feminists always give themselves away with comments like these. For any man reading this, just know when a woman says "men" or "man", she is exclusively talking about the top 20% in terms of SMV. ~80% of men are not having casual sex because women aren't even giving them the opportunity. Apex fallacy at it finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:01 PM
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The more you use that word, the more it cements their ideology that it actually exists. You're just making it worse for everyone by doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:50 PM
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This is what female logic looks like, everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:49 PM
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Did you miss the part where I wrote you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:48 PM
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Women use victim status to get men to do things for them, because men are biologically inclined to help women. Women know this, and abuse it. Many of them believe it gives them justification to "punch up" against their supposed "oppressors".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:47 PM
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But as an actual woman You're doing the meme. I can't help but see some flaws in your logic. Please, share these flaws with everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:46 PM
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The "patriarchy" doesn't exist. What feminists call a "patriarchy" is actually an "oligarchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:43 PM
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Feminism isn't about equality for women, it's about superiority for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:03 PM
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That way she gets the best of both worlds. Do you think you deserve the best of both worlds?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:01 PM
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On this sub and MANY others, AND in real life, women are blamed for choosing badly and judged for not vetting properly. As they should be. Pregnancy* has far more consequences for women than it does men, so it's up to women to make sure they don't let some deadbeat blow a wad in them. But then we're also judged for 'unfair' filtering or vetting too harshly or whatever the hell? Women are judged for filtering based on looks alone, which most of them do. Women virtue signal all day long about how …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:45 PM
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Men having complaints takes away precious victim points from women, which is the main source of their leverage in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:15 PM
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Why would anyone settle with someone they find unattractive? The only vehicle I will drive is a Ferarri 458, but if I only make 50k a year then that standard is delusional. Now imagine the Ferarri is a hot guy and the 50k is a woman's SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:14 PM
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They are also upset if a woman had hookups with others fast but won't with them. They are just upset that they aren't as attractive and are being settled for. The pot calling the kettle black.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:13 PM
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Expecting a man to actually take the time to read a bio is not an unreasonable expectation. It is unreasonable because Chad doesn't have to do it to get sex. And yes, I think it is men's fault that they chose not to read because it is their choice. The information is there and available and they chose to bypass it. Like I said, when it comes to Chad women will forget they ever had standards at all. Men are catching on to it. Women who are looking for men who treat us with decency, courtesy, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:10 PM
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It's 2026, women are considered equal to men and apparently nobody wants gender roles anymore. Women want the gender roles that benefit themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:07 PM
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That’s really not how the average woman behaves. The average man isn't a rapist, but women here will still say shit like "not all men, but always a man". Here's a few examples of women falsely accusing men: https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/bucks-co-woman-gets-prison-for-fake-attempted-rape-kidnapping-claims/4149486/ https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/03/eleanor-williams-lied-grooming-gang-guilty-perverting-justice
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:58 PM
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It's their way of climbing up the female hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:52 PM
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but too many men are defining themselve and refining themselves against what they think women prefer, Don't let their virtue signalling fool you, that is exactly what these women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:50 PM
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They want to talk to Chad. When they say "good men", or even just "men", they are exclusively talking about Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:49 PM
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Notice how everything she said is about making things easier and better for women at the cost of dignity for the men? The only kind of "advice" women give to men is advice that solely benefits the woman, they can't help themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:48 PM
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Blind swiping makes the apps miserable for women because far too many men are running optimization plays and they don't even bother to read the three sentences on a bio. Women make the app miserable for women by being delusional in their "standards". If a man isn't model-tier in looks, the vast majority of women will swipe left on him. I say this as a woman who absolutely does not like getting approached in public and would much rather meet someone on the app. The problem is that it's just far t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:47 PM
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Oh wow. You are genuinely being obtuse. This is how they all are. Feign ignorance, twist words, and finally resort to ad hominem attacks when they don't get their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:43 PM
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I think it's a good thing to get men to face rejection more so that we can improve dating as a whole. The vast majority of women, when asked, prefer to meet in real life, and not on apps. Of course a woman thinks this, she isn't the one that has to do the approaching. Women always want men to change their behavior to suit the wants of women, but will never consider doing the same thing for men (unless they are Chad). It's hotter to see a guy face rejection IRL than to see him cower behind apps s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:42 PM
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and the unnecessary insults to my intelligence start. L. You are very obviously ignoring every point he postulated so you can steamroll your single faceted argument of "women are shamed for being whores and men are not!", which isn't the point of the post to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:39 PM
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When a relationship is the goal, "friendship" is a rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:37 PM
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Why should men give a shit about any of the delusional bullshit women complain about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:35 PM
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Women will actively shame you for this and try to prevent you from doing it because they are hyperaware of the fact that it gives them less power in terms of access to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:17 PM
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Like I said above, these women don't give a damn about men no matter how much they want to pretend that they do. They are utterly convinced that women are oppressed by virtue of being a woman and they want it to be "their turn", so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:13 PM
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Women love to virtue signal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:11 PM
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The vast majority of woman would be happier with a good man for a husband compared to being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:55 PM
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A man who hasn't realized his potential isn't the equivalent of an abusive asshole, your black and white framing is pretty disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:54 PM
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A few I've noticed from many women: -He has an android phone instead of an iphone -He is too nice -He wore the wrong color shirt There are many more dumb reasons that women use to justify dumping a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:53 PM
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you do not think the lack of interest in men who are below 6'3" isn't going to effect them? They don't care. All they care about is that life is pretty good for them right now. Many of them think that the current status quo will last forever, that ~80% will just accept being considered subhuman while ~80% of women become part of Chad's harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:51 PM
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Congratulations, you've confirmed that women are shallow. Now I just have to wait for another tiktok video of a woman crying because Chad keeps pumping and dumping her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:22 PM
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Women will fuck Chad even if he lives in his mom's basement and doesn't have a job or a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:19 PM
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Historically, the woman's family would be doing the vetting process. It could take months to years. The problem is that modern women want instant gratification for their tingles and they can't control it, even in the face of negative consequences like becoming a single mother or being with an abusive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:36 PM
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If you take a bio of a 5/10 guy and start swiping on any dating app, you will be relegated to only women 5/10 and below. The complaint is that the 5/10 woman thinks she is "too good" for the 5/10 man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:54 PM
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If men got pregnant, I would agree with you. But they don't, sex has far more consequences for women than it does for men. Because of that, it is up to women to make sure they the guy they fuck isn't going to pump and dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:53 PM
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He can get them, but will have to put just a bit more effort in to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:52 PM
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Then their lineage dies with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:52 PM
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Some men want a trophy wife, some men want a life partner. Men are not a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:45 PM
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Unattractive seem to think that they deserve to be treated like attractive women. Unfortunately for them, that is not how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:35 PM
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Have you been tested for T. Gondii?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:34 PM
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Looks can be 90% of dating on the extreme ends. If you're not a 0/10 crippled dude or a 10/10 chad, as long as you "clear the bar" for attractiveness your personality determines how well you do. The problem is that women have set the bar at the lowest of the top 20% men, while men have a more even distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:33 PM
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The fact that i’m lazy to scroll through bunch of comments to prove my point doesn’t give you right to make a statement that i lie. This is a debate sub, the onus is on you (and you alone) to provide evidence to back up your statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:30 PM
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some men DO absolutely get catered to. This is his point, but your misandry blinds you. Women cater to the top 20% of men and treat the bottom 80% like subhumans, which is a huge problem that will show it's consequences sooner rather than later.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:25 PM
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Either that, or they'll accuse the man of being a homosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:24 PM
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Just admit it: you believe in a natural hierarchy and you don’t like it when men try to become attractive to women Due to solipsism, women project their own mentality on to men. Women don't usually have to do anything to improve themselves to attract a mate and they call other women who do improve themselves "pick me". Women apply this same logic to men, implying that guys who worked on themselves are faking it because that isn't "how they were born".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:57 PM
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Can you expand on this? How is she bottom 30% worldwide? Women in first world countries have become absolutely insufferable. The fact that the woman in the hypothetical scenario broke up with him just to fuck some other guy and then come crawling back is what puts her in the bottom 30%.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 07:38 PM
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I have a strong feeling that it didn't actually happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 07:09 PM
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This. When it comes to women, they are just virtue signalling when they say they want a "humble, compassionate man". What they really want is a hot guy, they will will forgo any pre requisites.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 07:07 PM
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Men being murdered by men is the fault of murderers, not all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:05 PM
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Clearly, I'm not making myself out to be superior to anyone who's above average or even at average. The big problem is womens' definition of "average" starts at the bottom of the top 20%. Example: An overweight single mother thinks she deserves a relationship with a tall, handsome 6 figure earner and considers any man below him to be "below average". That is what we call delusion. But just because I see bad behaviour in men of all classes doesn't mean I don't also see good behaviour in men of al…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:05 PM
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You only care about being right and denying the issues women face because you believe we have it sooooooo much easier than you and we are all privileged little bitches who need to shut up and accept yall have no issues when dating This is feminist projection. Yes. Being hurt by men is mostly illegal. Criminals still exist despite crime being illegal. Almost lkke they don't care... Murdering babies is illegal, yet women still do it at a rate that absolutely dwarfs men's. Should we hold all women …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:02 PM
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The supply for women is high because they are the gender that gets pregnant. Men and women are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:59 PM
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Trying to debate with a woman who willfuly ignores facts and reality is far more exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:58 PM
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For women it's abundant and usually pretty lame. Lies. Women enjoy sex just as much, if not more than, men do and crave it just the same. https://youtu.be/7h7SFdB9iPQ
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:55 PM
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What a load of horseshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:52 PM
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If male sexuality mirrored female sexuality overnight, resulting in men finding large swathes of women unattractive, lots and lots of women would become sad, frustrated, jaded, bitter and even angry. We'd have a mental health crisis and women would definitely and massively attack men for it, at least verbally. Women are already doing this because Chad doesn't commit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:51 PM
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https://youtu.be/mDKhicHoxWY
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:43 PM
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Sober bright women still want to have sex, it’s just that I actually have to be someone that she’d want to talk to for a while All women will sleep with Chad when given the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:42 PM
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Just because Chads are the only guys who can get away with that, doesn't mean less attractive men don't still try the same tricks. I've had far below average men try to pull this on me, even extremely disheveled homeless drug addicts, and elderly obese men... Ego stroking at it's finest, women just can't help themselves from trying to justify why they are superior to everyone around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:37 PM
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... All those phrases you mention ("no hookups", "dating intentionally" etc) are in the profile to screen out Chad (and anybody else with different dating priorities from them). What a load of shit. Those filters are there to screen out the bottom ~80% of men who don't know any better. Chad doesn't give a fuck about the virtue signalling in a woman's bio because he's been around enough women to know how they truly are. It's not a trick - they are not looking for hookups with Chad and if Chad jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:35 PM
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I guess I would be considered a modern feminist. I don’t hate men. I have empathy for them and their issues. I just think that it’s hard to support the rhetoric around dating and sex because it always seems rooted in men being pissed that they aren’t able to have sex with the women they want. "I have empathy for men, but here is why I actually don't".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:32 PM
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I can understand this perfectly fine. I simply have no clue how to signal that I'm not a danger while also being attractive, so I don't bother approaching women at all. I think the biggest problem is that due to movements like "metoo", women have been given power to ruin a man's life without any sort of quantifiable proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:23 PM
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Your risk of getting murdered is high but not when you go on dates or get married. Do you not see how that is the woman's fault, or do you think women should be perpetually shielded from the consequences of their own poor decisions? Your partner or date isn't your number 1 predator. You're so close. If women were actually capable of vetting men, this wouldn't be a problem. Women need to learn to keep their fucking legs closed. We women's chances of being raped and murder go up when we live with …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:22 PM
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Yes I do. But sometimes it becomes hard when they start talking about red pill stuff. Truth and reality are not going to be comfortable when you have been living a lie your entire life. can understand the core of why they are in pain or feel like things are unfair, but refuse to acknowledge our risk to being raped, murdered, and getting pregnant causes us to act a lot more logically and less emotionally/lustfully than them. And they don't get it Rape and murder are not equivalent to getting preg…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:17 PM
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It's not about fighting sexist tropes, it's about justifying hated and abuse towards all men. Everything a feminist says and does is designed to give more power and leverage to exclusively herself and other feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:11 PM
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I didn’t make this post for guys like you If you want an echo chamber, post this in a blue pill subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:06 PM
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If women didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:04 PM
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So we agree. Men only ever structure societies so that the worst possible people always end up having power over them. No, oligarchy doesn't imply that it's solely men who have power. Elizabeth I was the leader of the oligarchy during her time, for example. Lol. What? You think revolutions are won by sexually unsuccessful losers? Honey, those are the guys who die in them. It's absolutely telling that you think sexual success determines the victor. Naturally, the only unit of value a woman truly …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:21 PM
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Did you ever stop and think what you are bringing to the table for these guys? Women operate under a solipstic mindset which causes them to believe that men are attracted to the same exact things in the same exact way that they are. Men don't give a fuck about a woman's job, degree, or whatever. They care about whether or not she is kind and not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:03 PM
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Perhaps women say one thing but in practice do something entirely different...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:01 PM
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unfortunately the negative side effect is that it makes it so that a bunch of women are trying to get in an LTR with a small pool of qualified men. This makes the men incessantly picky, choosy, and opt for hookups and treat women like a carousel of options. This is what RP men mean when they say that women have delusional standards. The second issue, which is more blatantly a toxic patriarchal mindset, is that the men don't want LTRs with us, the men in my dental school opt for relationships wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:00 PM
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That's what patriarchy is, power consolidated in select few men's hands, No, that's what oligarchy is. Feminists created the "patriarchy" strawman in their head to justify abuse and hatred towards all men. Obviously any and every societal uprising by men is going to end up with Chad winning, because all men are completely and utterly beholden to everything what Chad is and what he represents, so all structure that any men will ever build will end up with Chad in the top, closely followed by his …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:50 PM
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To let every man have a young and sexually pure wife Because that's what men want in women first and foremost Feminists don't understand the purpose of this societal structure. The vast majority of work is done by men. When I say work, I don't mean a cushy HR office job I mean the men working on oil rigs, at coal mines, power plants, etc. The motivation for those men to contribute to society is the ability to have a wife, child, and to continue their genetic line. Now that even below-average wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:14 PM
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I agree with everything you wrote, but the problem factor is not men. The problem lies with women's perception of those men. They see the loud asshole and think "he's in control", when in reality many of those loud assholes aren't even in control of their own lives so they compensate by being a loud asshole. Many of those men struggle with emotional regulation (not the twisted version that feminists use), while the real leaders remain ice cold even in very stressful situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:10 PM
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If “feminists” are the intelligent emotionally regulated ones, that makes the “anti-feminists” lot sound ridiculous. They aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:08 PM
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Women want the emotional support that a boyfriend would provide without having to provide what he wants, which is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:14 PM
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I am saying that having a thyroid disorder won't prevent anyone from losing weight if they are in a caloric deficit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:13 PM
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what would you think in the case that the woman stepped up to be the one paying ? This situation is such a small percentage of total cases that it might as well be statistically insignificant. You're allowed to just... not like women, you know. I'm just hoping you're being honest about that if you're trying to get a woman's pussy. The typical response from a feminist when you challenge their delusional viewpoint is to use access to their hole as an insult. "You're allowed to not like women" is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:13 PM
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I mixed up this comment thread with another one, my apologies. I will break my belief down as simply as possible for you. Women show affection by having sex with men, men show affection by providing for and protecting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:17 PM
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That's the way you framed it, not me. I believe sex is a sacred act between a man and a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:12 PM
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Cry your wettest tears about it Thanks for indirectly admitting that I'm right. Women marry older, have children older. Things will be getting worse for you girl lovers The mind of a feminist is truly a mystery.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:09 PM
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Romance and sex are not the same thing. They are two sides of the same coin. Romance exists to get people to procreate so that humans continue to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:08 PM
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We're all gonna be hags in your eyes eventually anyway! Correct, which is why women shouldn't squander the time of their life where they can attract a high value man. Trying to trick young women into giving ass up young. Get a grip I never said anything like this. I said women need to properly vet the men they sleep with, which is quite the opposite of "giving ass up young". You give it up, but only with a man that's been properly vetted. You have an issue with it because women want to be able t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:04 PM
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You can be aroused by someone you do not like, do not respect, and would never emotionally invest in. A woman projecting her own mindset onto men. Solipsism at it's finest. If a woman isn't attractive enough to have sex with, the man will not get an erection, full stop. You say sex is “just biology” and “just fun,” I say that sex is biology, but I never said it is "just fun". That was literally said by you, here: I do believe it is necessary for bonding. And great fun. And a sign of a healthy re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:02 PM
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I see, you're one of those people. If you mean that I am the kind of person that has a basic understanding of human biology, then yes you are correct. It's not my fault you are incapable of inference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:52 PM
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Okay so you are trying to deny/pretend that the thyroid doesn’t cause weight issues You are trying to say that the laws of thermodynamics suddenly don't apply when it comes to a human body. You should sue whatever school you went to because they have done you a huge disservice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_thermodynamics "The first law of thermodynamics states that, when energy passes into or out of a system (as work, heat, or matter), the system's internal energy changes in accordance …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:51 PM
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A man doesn't need to like you or be attracted to have sex with you. He doesn't need to love you in a relationship to have sex Bullshit. If a man isn't attracted to you then he won't get an erection, it's a neat little biological feature to prevent men from mating with very undesirable (aka genetically inferior) women. A man in a marriage may just be horny, and not wanting to cheat, has sex with his wife he isn't attracted to anymore. Women do this to men at a much higher rate and the divorce ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:49 PM
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A woman should give sex to a man after she has properly vetted that he isn't a deadbeat loser. The problem is that vetting takes actual time and women expect instant gratification. They see a hot guy, get tingles, and don't think about the consequences of pregnancy with a man who doesn't provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:36 PM
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Women can offer a fucking lot, it's just that men don't really accept anything other than the womb. You're so close, but since you're having trouble understanding the logic behind your own words I'll help you: Men don't accept anything other than the womb because that's what men value, it doesn't matter what you think you "bring to the table". Men don't give a fuck about your job, degree, or whatever because he is still the one that will be paying. Anything a woman thinks she can do for a man th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:35 PM
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Men tend to see relationships as a barrier, a requirement to meet in order to get the pussy. I'd argue that's transactional thinking as well. "If I do this and that, she'll let me fuck her in return". Absolutely false. Most men don't think that doing nice things for women will give them access to pussy. I never said that sex shouldn't be a requirement, but I'd think it's a bit weird to view sex as the main bonding experience and just something almost casual to do, while at the same time viewing …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:33 PM
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I really have to explain everything, don't I? What is the point of sex? To create a child. Where is the child incubated? In the womb.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:29 PM
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And those lonely men are here crying about how they want to rape those women This is blatantly not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:28 PM
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Are you positing that thyroid issues do not cause persistent weight issues, the thyroid directly regulates your metabolism? Since you obviously didn't read anything I wrote, I will write in one last time. The laws of thermodynamics state that you cannot create matter or energy from nothing. Calories = energy, which then becomes matter in the body. The human body is not capable of creating calories from nothing or in an expenditure deficit. I have a feeling you won't read that, either, but at lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:27 PM
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That women actually do have negative personality traits that they claim they don't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:25 PM
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So in other words there's no good advice for women who actually have problems. You have to define the word "problem". Women have been sheltered from the cruel realities of nature for so long that they see anything that doesn't give them immediate gratification as a "problem".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:06 PM
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In the actual context of dating is constantly women telling complaining men that they're not entitled to various things, rather than the other way around. When confronted with evidence of their own negative traits, the narcissist's prayer applies to women as well: "That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:05 PM
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But men used to just hide all of their shitty behaviours. Women did, and still do, this. As soon as they had forums they laid it all open. And wants the cat was out of the bag they didnt even felt any shame about being misogynistic anymore. The "Tea" app proves that women did, and do, exactly this. Then the misogyny became even more public. And nowadays you see it openly everywhere. Its very good that women now know what to pay attention to. And can act accordingly. Your entire post is feminist …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:09 PM
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Men don't mind you aging, just be practically perfect in every way (including the aging process). Womene expect their man to perfect in every way, so why shouldn't men expect it from their woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:06 PM
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Implying that the woman herself is worthy of a man like that is ridiculous, she will age out eventually. Why would a man provide for an ungrateful bitch that views him that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:01 PM
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Men cheat on hot, fit wives all the time. Women do this to their husbands far more often than men do it to their wives, but that is womens' best kept secret. If most men knew how women actually view them, they wouldn't lift a finger to help a woman again for the rest of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:00 PM
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Having a thyroid disorder doesn't magically break the laws of thermodynamics. If you eat less calories than you expend, you will lose weight. There is no way around this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:59 PM
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The advice is fucking stupid because there's an unspoken "don't age" rule which is impossible Women want to have the same romantic options at 40 that they had at 20, but that is not how reality works. You are supposed to use your youth and beauty to secure a good man that will take care of you as you age. The comparison for men is working. As a man, you work your ass off when you're young and your body can handle more abuse so that you don't have to deal with the problems that come with age. Of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:58 PM
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Red pill doesn’t care what women want, only men Red pill is based in logic. It's not logical to do things for a woman that is just going to be ungrateful and throw it back in your face, so it's better to work on yourself until you become the man that women want to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:55 PM
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If that's the case, then women shouldn't expect their husbands to provide for them and act as an ATM.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:54 PM
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It's a bit of a freudian slip, he's admitting that that is how blue pillers and feminists look at relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:53 PM
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If he's not making you happy, you shouldn't be doing these things for him. I think the majority of these women won't be "happy" until they have a handome 35 year old billionaire husband that is also a sexual degenerate behind closed doors, even if the woman herself is an overweight single mother living off of welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:52 PM
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But from my understanding, a lot of these women are lazy af and want to quit work + be with a trad man that takes care of her so she can stay home. What these women want amounts to a replacement for their father. They want a man who will uphold his end of the relationship dynamic by providing, but they themselves don't want to uphold their end.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:51 PM
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Pretty sure TRP has the sole purpose of defending the pride of men who never learned how to emotionally regulate themselves like the rest of us. Feminist projection. All of the problems I've heard them bring up start with the inability of a man to self-regulate. Women have done everything they can in the last ~50 years to remove any avenue men may have to improve themselves or self regulate. If it's centered around these men and their problems, it's not going to make sense to anyone else, beside…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:50 PM
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Women want a strong man that will lead, but simultaneously do everything in their power to remove his ability to be a strong man that leads. It's a society-wide shit test that is having disaterous consequences for everyone involved, with a bit of cakism thrown in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:49 PM
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First of all, I have to say that I agree that women should make an effort to please their partners, IF THESE PARTNERS ARE WORTHY. Is the woman herself worthy, or do you think all women are by default "worthy" by virtue of having a vagina? They simply do that because they don't trust the man to step up. That sounds like a problem with women choosing poor partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:47 PM
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It's so telling how red pill equates not being able to have a relationship to being allowed to rape women. More misandrist bullshit. Rape is illegal and the vast majority of men protect women from being raped. The solution is for women to choose better partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:36 PM
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A pussy is the only thing they don't have. Most women understand that the only thing they can truly offer to a man is their womb, that's why their insults towards men tend to revolve on access (or lack thereof) to said womb.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:26 PM
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It seems like a relationship is just a contract to frequent sex or something. This is a female-centric perspective. Women tend to see relationships as transactional far more than men do. Most women also want companionship out of a relationship. Sex is part of companionship. If you want to be in a romantic relationship with someone but don't want to have sex with them, you really just want what amounts to a gay best friend. How ? My guess is that they already get it from their friendships so sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:25 PM
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The only people who would say that sex and romance are mutually exclusive stand to gain benefit from it, i.e. women. Women want men to romance them, but they don't want to give out sex. It's cakism at it's finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:22 PM
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Women's egos are so out of control that they think an ugly men expressing romantic interest in them is sexual assault, what a world we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:57 PM
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No true Scotsman fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:56 PM
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Those are the ages a woman is supposed to enter a grandmother role.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:09 AM
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Biological imperative will change your mind eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:57 PM
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You’re on a sub with men who are openly misogynistic. Women think that a man who simply disagrees with them is a "misogynist", so I will take that with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:57 PM
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The end result of hypergamy is the top percentage of men having harems and the rest of the men getting nothing, a quick look into history shows that those cultures tend to die out very quickly. Women disenfranchising the majority of men (this is what they are doing when they say shit like "the bar is too low", "we choose the bear") is a problem because if 80% of men decide they don't want to support the system by doing basic infrastructure jobs anymore, then that system will immediately collapse…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:52 PM
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Women have convinced ~80% of men that they aren't shallow because those men aren't ever given the opportunity to see a woman in her natural state. Women are far more shallow than men are and the 80/20 AF/BB rule proves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:45 PM
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When you’re ready to good faith me here, I’ll be around. The irony is palpable. Even when confronted with facts that prove they are wrong, feminists will just double down on whatever bullshit they came up with in their heads. Cognitive dissonance is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:38 PM
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If you actually read the OP, it's about women who purposely walk into men and then claiming it's the men's fault. It's all about ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:36 PM
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I don't really care if I don't find this man. Many women will say this, but deep down they are lying to themselves. When they are still single into their 40's, those same women will screech and complain that men aren't dating them and will do everything in their power to force them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:30 PM
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Sir the average person has attractive looking bone structure but the average man is borderline to obese in America today. And the average man is 5 inches taller than the average woman and hair you can just get a haircut. Why do you guys make so much excuses when these problems are pretty easy to fix What a load of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:18 PM
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I don't care if its a good way or not, it's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:17 PM
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This is the typical feminist response when called out for their negative personality qualities, everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:14 PM
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The average man can easily become a 7/10 if he gets decent muscle mass and is low teens body fat. Not true. Y aren't accounting for height, hair, or face bones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:18 PM
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You can lose weight, but most men have average face bones which women will consider "ugly".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:49 PM
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"Bare minimum" to women starts at the top 20% of men in terms of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:47 PM
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Women will never admit that the vast majority of them are far more shallow than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:45 PM
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The catch is that those men are not top tier in attractivness. Women will date a literal rapist if he is handsome enough. https://youtu.be/Alp3kLya2m4
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:44 PM
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It's a sign that most women have delusional standards. 80% of women want a top 20% man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:37 PM
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When a woman says "men", she is referring to only the top 20% of men in terms of SMV. The bottom 80% literally don't exist to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:52 PM
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It is established, but women have to frame themselves as a victim in every situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:51 PM
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This subreddit isn't your personal blog.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:50 PM
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A woman needs to see you as a sexual person to fuck you. Correct. In the vast majority of cases a woman will decide if she wants to fuck you within 10 seconds of meeting you for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:49 PM
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Women see an ugly man hitting on them as an actual insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:48 PM
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The vast majority of women prefer hairy manly brunettes. The vast majority of women prefer Chad. As long as you are at least a 7/10 in terms of SMV, women will pine after you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:48 PM
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It is widely known that social media and online dating has caused womens' egos to shoot into space. All women from 3-9 in terms of SMV will only show interest in men that are at least a 7/10 in terms of SMV. It is referred to as "hoeflation".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:45 PM
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oh please is sam from sex and the city or berta from two and a half men called an icy bitch? what about dr. cox from scrubs or dr. house? by the viewers ofc... Scripted television is not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:30 PM
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A woman who’s harsh and direct would be called an icy bitch while guy would be applauded but giving it straight. I diasgree with the second part of this statement. A guy who is harsh and direct is referred to as a douche, asshole, or dick. It's not the fault of men that those are the types that women are attracted to, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:29 PM
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Women are sometimes indirect so that they can avoid the unpleasant situation of being attacked, beaten, and possibly losing their life, due to having expressed slight disagreement with something. Hyperbole. Women aren't being beaten or killed en masse because they "disagree" with something. The statistics show that men are more likely to be killed by a stranger, and women more likely to be killed by an "intimate partner" (https://ourworldindata.org/data-insights/american-homicide-victims-are-mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:24 PM
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Not by their partners and family members. Good thing this isn't the only metric we judge these things by.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:11 PM
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You're trying to justify perpetual victimhood for all women just because they have a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:10 PM
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It's so the mothers who use that money for luxury on themselves can be held accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:00 PM
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This would be a really tiresome waste of effort, wouldn't it? Rent, daycare, and grocery costs would easily chew through $1000/month. It's better than women using the court system to get a free paycheck out of the child's father that they probably chose to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:49 PM
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The type of man that is "really liked" by one woman is most likely "really liked" by most women, so he has options. Most women give men the same treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:35 PM
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I feel the same way about getting a BJ before the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:34 PM
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Would men be okay with having shitty sex long-term? The vast majority of men already deal with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:31 PM
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A few contributors to this subreddit are allowed to post blatant misandry without any sort of moderation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:06 PM
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Women Receive Less Prison Time Than Men: https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/2023-demographic-differences-federal-sentencing Women Paid More Than Men For The Same Role: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kimelsesser/2019/03/05/google-finds-gender-bias-against-men-really/ Family Court System Is Biased Towards Women: https://legaljobs.io/blog/child-custody-statistics/ Now let's see your proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:06 PM
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Okay, there's nothing men can do to fix it so you just have to deal with it. Just like men have to deal with sigining up for the draft and being discriminated against in family courts. It's not mens' responsibility to prevent you from feeling pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:59 PM
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Those are the men you chose to be around. You inability to put yourself around decent men does not constitute an emergency for all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:58 PM
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All of the issues you listed that women experience can be avoided by not getting pregnant. If women could learn how to keep their fucking legs closed then maybe they wouldn't have so much dumb shit to bitch about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:53 PM
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She won't, because this post is just another blatant attempt at misandry by the usual suspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:52 PM
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So you're admitting that it's all anecdotes, why am I not surprised...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:51 PM
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Hahahaha. I had to have a hysterectomy for medical reasons. What about men that have their testicles removed due to medical reasons, such as cancer? Do they not matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:50 PM
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Men just chosing to smoke and drink and not see the doctor is not. Substance abuse is a mental health disorder. You're only saying this because it's about men, which proves your blatant misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:49 PM
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There is quantifiable evidence that women are privileged. With everything other than gender controlled for, women get lesser sentences than men do in criminal court cases. Women tend to paid more than men for the exact same role with the exact same hours. The family court system is heavily rigged in the favor of the mother. The list goes on and on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:48 PM
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Biology isn’t society The OP seems to think that they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:44 PM
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know those women will ignore all red flags if the guy is hot enough. That says a lot more about women than it does men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:41 PM
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Women just act like they are a part of their kids lives Men do this too, but you'll conveniently ignore that because it doesn't support your "men=bad" bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:40 PM
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The man has it easy. The men who are expected to work themselves to the bone for a nagging wife who had kids that probably aren't his have it "easy", sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:40 PM
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but then cry about anything that helps children that aren’t their own. It's not surprising that a feminist thinks men should take care of children that aren't their own, it aligns with most womens' tendency to make men raise children that aren't theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:37 PM
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...Men just don’t like to admit women do the majority of childcare and don’t want to give up their freedoms to do it Women do the majority of childcare because that was their biological responsibility since the dawn of humanity. While women were doing that, men were protecting them from outside threats and hunting for food. Feminists are expecting men to perform both roles while women get to do whatever they want without consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:35 PM
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Women want all of the fun parts of having kids, but look who actually pays when the dollar is due.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:42 PM
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Kids are just eating air, running around naked, and never going to a doctor appointment I suppose then. Is this supposed to be a response to anything I posted? Fucking delusional people on here acting like they have any idea how expensive it is to raise a child. It's apparent that most women don't because they de-facto expect men to pay for the consequences of womens' choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:40 PM
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Reverse the genders and women would lose their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:36 PM
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Those women don't care if men suffer, they just want to be given everything without having to put any effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:36 PM
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It isn’t your wives job to make you feel a part of the family Yet women think it's their husband's job to do that for them, once again proving that women have broken their end of the social contract. Why the fuck would any man be with a woman who thinks like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:34 PM
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Do you think she should have to pay him if he has custody of their kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:21 PM
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He described doing basic adult shit he should have been doing anyway. Is the wife somehow excluded from doing those things? Should he work himself to death so that only she can live a life of luxury without having to lift a finger to raise her own children or take care of her own home?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:19 PM
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The court system in the US is heavily biased towards women, but feminists will never admit that because then they wouldn't be perpetual victims in every scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:18 PM
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Yes, that’s what adults do, most couples do variations of this between them. Modern women are trying to force men into indentured slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:17 PM
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Feminists think every contribution done by a man, no matter how big, is never enough. They remind me of bratty children, only thinking of themselves and wanting more more more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:17 PM
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Anyone with half a brain knows sex is important to men, generally. Now you're starting to realize that feminism isn't about equality, but female superiority. They want to be able to have all of the fun of sex, but only on their terms. They want all of the negative consequences of sex to be solely the man's responsibility while they claim the positive aspects. Women do this with literally everything in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:15 PM
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That is not how a relationship works at all. Children are (like most decisions in a marriage) a 2 yes, 1 no situation. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, so therefore the onus is on them for any consequences that come from said sex. Men aren't given an opt-out of being a parent while women are, so the accountability therefore lies with women. You can disagree with it all you want but that's the correct logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:14 PM
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You’re giving 200K over 14 years to your children..not to her. Lets stop pretending that the majority of women who receive child support actually spend it on the children. You’d be spending that money on them regardless - clothes, shoes, medical bills, school supplies/fees, food, birthday gifts, etc… The women should not be in control of where the money is spent because there are no safeguards to prevent her from spending it on herself. There needs to be a mediated escrow account with only appro…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:11 PM
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Feminists will always play dumb in these types of debates because if they don't then they have to admit that you're right. When confronted with criticism against themselves/women in general they will stay silent, play dumb, move the goal posts, or use ad hominem attacks. Basically, anything other than actually recognizing the argument at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:09 PM
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Women have broken their side of the social dynamics construct while still expecting men to perform their own side of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:06 PM
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Do you think traditional female roles should be voluntary for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:45 AM
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Do you believe that women should be expected to perform roles that are typically assigned to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:31 PM
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What you're describing is an oligarchy, not a patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:31 PM
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Can you list the things that make society unequal?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:30 PM
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One dismantles a patriarchy by allowing women to participate in the political process by providing them equal voting rights and permitting them to run for political offices. Women have equal voting rights and are permitted to run for political office in the majority of countries. Using your standards, would you agree that there is not a patriarchy in the first world?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:30 PM
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Your definition describes an oligarchy, not a patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:32 AM
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Early limits were about property and race, not being male. Poor men were blocked, but they were still treated as people in their own right. Remember that the US is only a small part of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:34 AM
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That doesn't make sense. Past oppression isn't just erased the moment a right is granted lol. Do you believe that modern first world women are oppressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:07 PM
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"patriarchy" is a shit term because it implies that all men are fated to be at fault for every gendered issue ever That's precisely what feminists want to make it easier for them to justify hatred and abuse towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:58 PM
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I posted the Oxford definition at the beginning of my OP, so that shows that you're trying to debate something that you didn't even read.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:30 PM
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Patriarchy isn’t extra marks, it’s choosing who’s allowed to play, then pretending the winners earned it fair and square. The projection is real. Feminists want to prevent men from playing altogether and legislation that they have supported for the last ~100 years is undeniable proof of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:16 PM
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Just the way smart people should be favored systemically in exams is different frok smart people should be favoured in exams. This is actually a great point. Affirmative action has given different admission criteria based on race, with East Asians being discriminated against the most. Very similar to the ideology behind feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:15 PM
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"Women couldn’t vote, but neither could some men” In this case, "some" is ~95% of men. Men could meet those conditions. Women couldn’t, because the law folded them into their husbands. Some women were able to vote before the 19th amendment, but you'll pretend it's not true because it doesn't align with your bias. So it’s not “no one could vote.” It’s that men were treated as independent citizens and women weren’t. Once again moving the goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:14 PM
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They are conveniently vague and try to obfuscate it so they can twist it to suit whatever benefits themselves at any given moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:12 PM
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Men didn’t build the system to “protect women.” They built it to protect their own power, False. and the side effects were men being used and women being excluded. Men built a system where they themsevles get used? That makes no sense. I’m not changing my view or suddenly trying to play nice. It sure seems like you were. The last line from my first comment was literally stop turning this into men vs women That's exactly what feminists have been doing for the last ~100 years and your previous com…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:11 PM
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Can you read minds? No? Then how would you know what men believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:54 PM
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I’m not going line by line, because you’re still missing my point. The evidence you gave to support your point says the exact opposite of what you're saying. This isn’t women vs men. The same system that shut women out also made men disposable in war and work. Which proves that we don't live in a patriarchy. You keep blaming women for shit that came from rules men built. That just turns a system problem into a gender fight. Rules that men built to create a decent society and protect women from d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:52 PM
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The epidemic of single mothers on welfare benefits is just one aspect of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:36 PM
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Women couldn’t have their own credit in the US without male approval until the 1970s. Modern credit cards weren't invented until 1958, and the vast majority of men didn't have one either. If there was a true patriarchy, women would have never been allowed to have one. That in and of itself proves there is no patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:36 PM
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And men like you aren’t aware of the terrible sacrifices women have made to keep society afloat. Name 3 of them, don't worry I'll wait. Historically pregnancy was quite risky and extremely uncomfortable. Good thing pregnancy is preventable by being celibate. Not only that, but if it was really so bad then why do so many women end up pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:35 PM
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But a patriarchy will always develop since most women want to submit to a man. I agree with the rest of your points, but there is a bit more nuance for this one. Men and women in their natural roles isn't a "patriarchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:34 PM
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Wow. A few things to unpack. In terms of the “men have a sense of honor” bit, I will point you to every major tyrant in human history. It has been shown that women leaders tend to engage in more warfare and are far more cruel than their male counterparts. https://qz.com/967895/throughout-history-women-rulers-were-more-likely-to-wage-war-than-men In fact, between 1480 and 1913, Europe’s queens were 27% more likely than its kings to wage war, Every administration that enters the white house is alm…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:33 PM
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Who do you think instituted the draft? It wasn’t women. Rich elites, many of which have been historically women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:29 PM
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Their goal is feminist superiority. They have to bend and warp reality to turn themselves into victims so they can justify to themselves. Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:29 PM
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....you mean-other men? This logic is circular. Ah, yes. Because humans are the only things to exist on this planet and everything else is benevolent. Go into the woods and play with bears, see how long you survive. There was a reality show where they dropped kids in a house alone to see what they'd do. They split them up by gender. I think they were around 8-10. Anywho, the boys ate up all the food and destroyed the place in a day. The girls? Created a miniature, well run society over that week…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:28 PM
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Feminist projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:25 PM
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You said but our part has always been overlooked and disregarded. And the fact that rosie the riveter exists at all disproves that. Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:24 PM
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It was not benevolence that disallowed women to vote until 1920. Some women were allowed to vote before the 19th amendment and the vast majority of men were not allowed to vote for the majority of human history. It was not benevolence that disallowed women to get their own credit card until 1974. Credit cards weren't invented until 1958 and the vast majority of men didn't have them either. Women really like to use this as some sort of "gotcha", when statistics show that they tend to carry a high…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:24 PM
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I can say the sky is green, that doesn't make it true without sources to back it up. Now, do you have any sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:19 PM
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Without actually addressing anything she said. There is no way to quanitfy what she said. You're the one who doesn't have a rebuttal. How to say you didn't read, and if you did you don't understand, what I wrote without actually saying it. Playing contrarian to anything a man says just because he is a man isn't a debate, it's just misandry. Men didn't give women the right to vote either. They stopped taking away their right to vote. They are the same exact thing, you're just trying to frame it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:09 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/chapter/referencework/abs/pii/B9780080449104009822 I'm not here to argue the definition of patriarchy. It is defined by the Oxford dictionary. Regardless of that, that source isn't peer reviewed so it's purely the opinion of the author. Women have made major advances in politics — but the world is still far from equal - Our World in Data Did you even read this article? It shows that before 1900, neither men or women had the right to vote. 19th Amendment to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:05 PM
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You are quite literally doing the same thing to women, you are using what a small fraction of women say and are vilifying all women for it. I am vilifying feminists, blue pillers, and women that agree with it. Women that understand the dynamics between men and women will get no criticism from me. My whole issue with your post is that you paint women in broad terms. Projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:43 PM
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Not to mention what occurred 200 years ago doesn’t define whether we have a patriarchy today. That is the point of my OP, they use it to give themselves victim points which they then use to justify abuse and hatred of men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:42 PM
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I hate to break it to you that not all women become pregnant through consensual sex right? That is called rape. Rape is illegal. And even if they do, they still shouldn’t be forced to use their body as an incubator. No one is forcing women to be incubators. Pregnancy is avoidable by being celibate, but I have a strong feeling you're going to ignore the facts I have put forth. If you get injured playing a sport, we don’t debate whether you deserve treatment because you should have known the risks…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:41 PM
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Men create weapons to augment their strength to kill the tiger. Even with a weapon, most women would freeze up and end up dead in the same situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:39 PM
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Okay, but the point of my OP is that the patriarchy doesn't exist to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:38 PM
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Feminists thinking gutting the economy to create welfare and benefits for exclusively women is "prospering" because they are the ones that benefit. They don't realize that it isn't a sustainable model.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:37 PM
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"We aren't" You don't speak for all men. There are absolutely men out there saying that women's rights should be overturned and they they shouldn't be in the workplace etc. Is it rare? Absolutely. It does happen though. Women will use the actions of an extremely small fraction of men to justify hatred and abuse towards all men. That's the point of this entire post. The vast majority of infanticide cases are perpetrated by women, does that mean that we shouldn't let any woman around her own baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:36 PM
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Your claim that women were not allowed to work is simply false. Cognitive dissonance prevents them from admitting this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:34 PM
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but in the US women are dying because a major component of our bodily autonomy is up for debate and in some cases being revoked. How many women die due to childbirth each year? It’s about not wanting to be forced to be an incubator. Women aren't forced to be incubators, there is this thing called celibacy that prevents pesky pregnancies. What women really want is to enjoy the good aspects of pregnancy while simulataneously pushing all of the negative aspects on to men as a whole. On top of that,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:31 PM
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Women try to frame the benevolence of men as "oppression". That is the entire logic behind the existence of the "patriarchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:30 PM
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Also women did help build the world just like men but our part has always been overlooked and disregarded. Absolutely not true. Ever heard of Rosie the Riveter?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:29 PM
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giantesses and dwarf males. There was a video about this, the dwarfs were actually stronger than the giantess bodybuilding women. https://youtu.be/f25TH8IW38c
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:28 PM
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The world existed and humanity was thrust into it. Do you think men literally created the Earth?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:20 PM
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"We gave you the right to vote" you taking credit when it suits you. you didnt give anyone the right to vote Correct, I didn't give anyone the right to vote but I am a man and men gave women the right to vote. You can't come up with a genuine counter argument, but you think "man = bad" so you have to come up with some kind of contrarian opinion to fit into your cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:19 PM
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An anecdote, meaningless. Are those women barred from being part of the board by law, or is that the women have no interest in being on the board in the first place? Perhaps the men are the most qualified to be on the board? It sounds like you want women to be given authority and respect without earning it, I imagine you would want to absolve those same women of accountability when they make bad decisions. I hear women say that women make bad decisions because of men, somehow. It's absolutely ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:18 PM
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The logic is - you cant blame women for not being able to take accountability if you dont give them the right to their own lives. And voting is part of that. Women have proven time and time again that they self-destruct when left to their own devices. Men and women serve different, but equal, roles in society, yet they somehow try to frame and portion of mens' role as "bad" and all portions of womens' role as "good". Feminism isn't about female "equality", it's about female superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:16 PM
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You've only tried to attack the messenger and not the message itself, so you're not debating in good faith. This will be my last response to you, have a nice day!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:15 PM
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Men believe they are superior to women and that women are made for them Absolutely not true. You have to frame it that way to get precious victim points, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:14 PM
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No, that just shows that men and women serve different, but equal, roles in society. Women want to frame mens' role in society as a bad thing while simultaneously empowering their own, no matter how detrimental it is to humanity as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:13 PM
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Do not confuse dominance for physical strength, The only person doing that is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:12 PM
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Go into the jungle and try to fight a tiger. Go to the savannah and try to fight a lion. Go into the ocean and try to survive the waves. Go to the top of mountain and try to survive the cold. Go to a muslim-majority country as a first world woman and try to survive true oppression. Those are just a few examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:11 PM
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I posted several arguments and sources in the OP. I suggest you actually read it before trying to argue against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:09 PM
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The patriarchy specifically refers to the rich white men who influence and control essentially all aspects of Western society. The most popular president in American history is a black man, so your argument doesn't hold water.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:09 PM
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No true Scotsman fallacy. Do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:08 PM
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This reflects a rigid gender hierarchy that exists under the patriarchy and traditional views. Men protecting women from themselves is not a bad thing. When left to their own devices, women tend to self destruct more often than not. Masculinity is also usually tied to the idea of being physically dominant, and more capable of violence. Who would you rather have fight in a battle, a man who is seen as being more capable of violence or a woman who is societally seen as a caretaker? This was the tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:08 PM
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but the fact is men are overwhelmingly more likely to take leadership roles, in many unique positions. Due to biology, men are more capable of being leaders than women. Men have a sense of honor that women seem to lack. Also, love committing to the “only men can be in military” and still act like that doesn’t prove the patriarchy exists. Okay, can you disprove anything I said? Do women have to sign up for the draft or not? It’s not rocket science, if society is taking away a woman’s ability to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:00 PM
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I asked you a question so that I can reply with a better counter argument. My personal beliefs have no bearing on the arguments I have put forth. What you're doing is trying to dig for some sort of personality flaw on my part so you can then apply that to my arguments, which is a logical fallacy. Provide a counter argument with sources or I will consider that to be your concession to the debate. You seem like you don't actually want a debate. Says the person who isn't providing any counter argum…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:57 PM
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If your man was drafted into a war you were left on your own with no way to fend for yourself because you arent allowed to own assets without a man. "Men die in war, women most affected". Ridiculous framing. When you are purely a dependent you cant take accountability for what other people decide for you. Do you think a singular man decides that he has to go fight in a war and die? Do you not see the issue in the logic? My logic is sound. Your logic is not, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:53 PM
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Can you post a source for any of these points that you're trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:49 PM
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What you appreciate doesn't matter, what matters is the logic behind the argument. Do you have any sort of logical counter point? Or is your only response going to amount to "my feelings are hurt"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:48 PM
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They want female superiority. If all men collectively decided that women don't have rights anymore, there is not a single thing that women can do to stop them. If you reverse the genders, then it is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:46 PM
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Every race has been enslaved at some point. Why does everyone forget about the Chinese, Irish, and other cultures that were enslaved in pre-emancipation America? Why do they conveniently ignore the fact that there are more slaves today than there ever was in the past? It's because it doesn't support their bias that only Black people were ever enslaved at all in the entirety of human history, which they then try to leverage to gain more power for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:45 PM
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I've always said that feminism isn't about equality, its about superiority (for women).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:43 PM
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Women are naturally submissive to men, that is basic biology. Women see men protecting them from the dangers of the world as "oppression". When shit gets real, women very quickly revert to their traditional roles because they know that they aren't capable of protecting themselves. Modern women have not been in situations where they had to rely on themselves to survive, so they are literally ignorant to how cruel nature really is. It's like a spoiled child that wants to run away from their parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:43 PM
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Not only that, but the vast majority of infanticide cases are perpetrated by women. They will conveniently ignore any statistics that show women as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:37 PM
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Please post any laws that specifically state that black people don't have equal rights. As a counter example, look what the South African government is doing to the white population there. That is was actual "unequal rights" looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:33 PM
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But clearly men see addressing an equality imbalance as discrimination bedause they are accustomed to privilege. It doesn't need to be addressed because it doesn't exist. One could argue that women have been made more equal than men, "Animal Farm" style, with legislation passed in the last ~100 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:31 PM
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It's a clear display of cognitive dissonance on their part. When confronted with quantifiable facts, they pretend that reality isn't real and double down on their incorrect beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:27 PM
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We clearly do still live in a patriarchy. I countered this with several arguments in the OP. I suggest you read it before reacting to the title of the post. It’s still majority men in charge Do you believe that women should be in charge just by virtue of having a vagina, even if they aren't truly qualified for it? the gender pay gap still exists Disproved in the OP. Read above and the US is currently engaging in a widespread rollback of women’s rights. If you're referring to abortion, the US has…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:26 PM
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As I replied to his comment, you don't have any sort of counter argument. I provided sources in the main post, it's not my fault that the vast majority of feminists and blue pillers in this sub are incapable of reading them. Not only that, but you managed to use 3 logical fallacies in just two sentences: Labelling my argument as "nonsense" before even addressing the statement is an ad hominem attack, you're attacking the character or quality of the work rather than argument itself. The second se…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:20 PM
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So you don't have a counter argument, just as I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:11 PM
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It boils down to this: Man = bad, woman = good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:10 PM
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Sex is a biological imperative, but women have somehow framed it in the male perspective as "bad" and in the female perspective as "empowering". If a man saved 100 babies from a burning building, feminsts would come up with 100 reasons why saving babies from burning buildings is a bad thing simply because it was a man that did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:09 PM
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Men did not "build" the world. The world existed and humanity was thrust into. What men "built" is society itself, which is a byproduct of the cruel and unforgiving laws of nature. It's not surprising that women aren't even aware of the terrible sacrifices men have had to made to create a safe bubble for humanity to exist in, they just take it for granted. It's like thinking that water is made when you turn off the faucet, the garbage just "disappears", and electricity is made in the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:07 PM
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Economically we're doing incredibly better. The only demographic that is a net contribution in terms of taxes are white men. Every other demographic is a net drain. That tells me that the economy is not doing better. Politically probably better. Women say this because they have spent the last 50 years supporting legislation that is designed to pass their accountability off on to men. It is a byproduct of female hypergamy and solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:04 PM
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When left to their own devices women will destroy society to benefit themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:02 PM
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Also, things are STILL unfair. Please, quanitify this with actual facts. I have a feeling you won't be able to do that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:01 PM
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Once a feminist is backed into a corner without any argument, they will resort to manipulation tactics such as moving the goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:00 PM
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Correct. But men were already able to vote. For a very long time, only men who owned land were allowed to vote. This meant that the people voting had an actual stake in what they were voting for. All men were given the right to vote, but in return have to sign up for the draft or fight a war if necessary. Women are not required to do that, so they don't really have a stake in what they are voting for and subsequently will vote only to further their own interests, even to the detriment of others …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:00 PM
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The vast majority of feminists today say that we are currently living in an "oppressive patriarchy", mostly because they aren't given high status without having to actually earn it. They then use that flawed premise to justify their hatred and abuse towards men, which is a very real and quanitifiable metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:51 PM
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historically women were defo oppressed though Women consider protection from the cruelty of nature as "oppression". Almost every time women have tried to do this themselves, they have failed spectacularly. https://youtu.be/hVYkgqmRnpQ
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:49 PM
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Do you have any sort of counter-argument to any of the points I have postulated?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:47 PM
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Yes they did, and still do. Can you provide any sort of quantifiable counter arguement, or are you just going to say "nuh uh"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:58 PM
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Explain in detail then why the patriarchy existing precludes women from taking to the streets to protest then. It's common sense. Look at countries with tyrants or dictators, such as North Korea. Any attempt at rebellion is immediately crushed with overwhelming force. If men were tyrants over women, every single sufragette would have been made an example of with brutal violence. That didn't happen because society is not a patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:58 PM
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Correct. Women absolutely cannot compete with men when it comes to dominance, that is a biological fact. If we truly lived in a patriarchy, men would have absolutely crushed any attempts by women to gain the right to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:55 PM
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Yeah, OP, can you explain why the vote wasn’t given at the start of the US if men didn’t have an issue with giving women the right to vote? I never postulated this perspective. Yet another woman creating a strawman in her head and acting as if that's the point that the man has put forth. I am convinced that women will never be able to debate in good faith, but maybe one day a woman can prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:53 PM
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The patriarchy is not defined as “women being physically prevented from ever doing anything and nothing societally ever changing” though. Correct, I provided the Oxford definition of patriarchy above. Patriarchy can still exist even as women gain new rights. It's a very obvious attempt to gain leverage and power by abusing mens' sense of honor and protection, similar to a baby that cries until the mother comforts them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:52 PM
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The patriarchy is 10 thousand years of men oppressing women on the basis of sex. Men created society to protect women from the cruel nature of the world. Women see this protection as "oppression" in a similar way to a child who has a meltdown because their parents make them eat vegetables or go to bed at a decent hour. When women are left to their own devices they tend to become self-destructive, which is quite apparent in modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:50 PM
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You fail to understand the point. If there was an actual "patriarchy", those women would never have been given the chance to protest to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:44 PM
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Misandric rhetoric is leading to the abuse against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:38 PM
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Idk maybe they’d be put off by the misogynistic rhetoric that’s on here ? Should men be put off by the misandric rhetoric of the women here? Not only that, but the mods appear to have a bias towards these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:07 PM
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I don’t but I find it pretty easy to filter down the men who approach me into who wants a LTR and who doesn’t. You think it's easy, but the vast majority of women don't take the time and effort to properly vet men they sleep with. Why else would we have an epidemic of single mothers?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:44 PM
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Men are easy to have sex with, but difficult to have a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:28 PM
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I’m fat. I’ve approached a few men in my life. Friends. Men I knew and was attracted to for their looks and personality. Always got rejected. Always knew I would. There’s no point in me asking. This is what ~80% of men experience, even if they are above average but not quite Chad. Men are starting to realize that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. You just want beautiful women to ask you out. Projection. Also. For the majority of women our attraction is different. Cold approaches would be just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:20 PM
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Women's delusional standards on display.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:17 PM
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You must think it's so flattering for others to want to oppress you with the number one institution that oppresses men I am flat out convinced that they are projecting what they themselves are doing to men on to men as a distraction at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:40 PM
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otherwise women wouldn’t be complaining about men who are lying about wanting relationships AKA men not wanting relationships with women, thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:43 PM
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Men have been doing exactly that and women can't stand it. If I had a nickel for every time I've heard a woman say "where are the good men?"...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:34 PM
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When someone calls someone else an ungrateful bitch they aren't going to be seen in the best light. And that's on them. When someone acts like an ungrateful bitch, they aren't going to be seen in the best light. You just want to absolve women of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:54 PM
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Once again, that is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand Like I said, the only metrics feminist think count are the Female Approved(tm) metrics. It's not bias, it's exasperation. Implying that men aren't exasperated with women contributing very little, yet demanding more than their fair share? Women will always judge men by their actions but judge themselves (and other women) by their intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:36 PM
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Implying that women can never be considered an ungrateful bitch sheds light on your bias. If a man does a thing, that thing is bad. If a woman does a thing, then that thing is good. The double standard is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:29 PM
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You’re not carrying society, you’re carrying a grudge. Tell that to the men who build your roads, take out your garbage, run water treatment facilities, among the million other things women pretend aren't happening. A hard day at work doesn’t cancel your responsibilities at home. Men work longer hours at harder jobs than women, so what you want is for men to do all of the work that women should be doing. That doesn't sound very fair to me, but I shouldn't expect fairness from a feminist. Most wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:28 PM
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Women have systematically removed any expectations of them in a relationship while simultaneously increasing the expectations of men. Hoeflation is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:09 PM
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My first sentence is obvious sarcasm. According to women the only metrics that matter in a relationship are the things that women tend to do that they don't want to do. Men don't want to work 12 hours a day to come home to an ungrateful bitch of a wife who wants to be given everything without having to put a single ounce of effort in, yet they are forced to do it without complaint or be labeled as a "deadbeat" or "misogynist". Women are so close-minded and ignorant to what men actually do for so…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:03 PM
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Men do that to. Literally proving my point. And your idea that it is mainly done by women is something you pulled out of your ass. The only people pulling things out of their ass are the feminists on this sub. When you lie and claim that only one gender does something, when they both do that think, no one has to take you seriously. Because they shouldn't. So you're saying we should ignore something that one gender does at a much higher rate because some members of the other gender might do it, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:00 PM
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We’re talking about division of labour inside a household, not jobs that happen outside the relationship. So am I. Women aren't even aware of the shit that men have to do to keep them happy. Health care, education, and caregiving are female-dominated. Society doesn’t run without them. So do women get a free pass at home now too, or does that logic only work one way? Once again, you think the only metrics we should measure contribution to relationships and society have to be Female Approved(tm). …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:57 PM
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You're trying to pigeon hole the factors that determine who does more work in a relationship by neglecting the male-centric duties. If you can't get passed your bias, then we can't have a good-faith debate and there is no point in responding to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:31 PM
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Is he cooking most meals, planning what to eat, checking what’s missing, and actually grocery shopping. Cleaning bathrooms, kitchens, floors, and doing the daily reset so the house stays functional. Laundry, including sorting, washing, drying, folding, and putting it away. Noticing when supplies are low and restocking them. Booking doctor and dentist visits. Buying clothes when kids outgrow them. Back-to-school shopping. Packing lunches. Managing routines like bedtime and homework. Or is he just…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:17 PM
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Then why don't women date ugly men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:50 PM
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You're pretending that physical attraction isn't one of the defining parts of relationships because then you would have to admit that you agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:42 PM
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I think you are referring to most women's definition of an ideal man. Yes, of course most women want a hot, wealthy, caring, and trustworthy partner who can sex them like a romance novel. The problem is that women then shame any man that doesn't meet these unrealistic standards. "Incel", "Broke", etc. Yes, of course most women want a hot, wealthy, caring, and trustworthy partner who can sex them like a romance novel. TBF, most men want the same (substituting "porn star" for "romance novel" and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:00 PM
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Women have this weird habit where they project their own solipsitic mindset on to men. Just because women think like they are "settling" for any man that isn't Chad doesn't mean men also think that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:52 PM
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No one said “man wants sex = rape.” That's literally what you did. You said that male sexual desire is bad because men will "force" it on other people. Stop gaslighting. The actual point is that male desire is more often socially rewarded for persistence, while female desire is more often shaped around filtering and safety. Now you're changing your original argument, how convenient. And yes, persistent male sexual desire is a spectrum that INCLUDES rape, but there's a lot of other morally 'gray'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:18 PM
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Yes because male sexual desire is often forcing it, persistently, on an unwanted recipient. That is called rape, which is illegal. I'm not surprised a woman would say that though, most of you are exactly the same. Making a sweeping generalization about all men for something a very small minority does gives no credence to your argument. But given the disparity of desire, whenever women want sex, the odds are it's with a willing recipient. Does that make sense? You're just proving my point. What y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:44 PM
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Once the state stops rewarding women with cash and prizes for initiating divorce, first the divorce rate will plummet and then the marriage rate will follow soon thereafter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:40 PM
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She is playing contrarian because anything a man thinks = bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:36 PM
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This claim relies on a set of assumptions that don’t hold up. 1. It generalises from a niche sample “Women trade up for richer/higher status men” and “men discard women for youth” are both drawn from online dating extremes, not representative relationship data. Those assumptions are observed reality. Women trading their current man for a better one (hypergamy) is a well documented phenomenon. Men trading their current woman for a better one is a phenomenon only documented among the top 20% of me…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:24 PM
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This however is something the vast majority of men cannot do, and it's only a small minority of men who can do this with any success, and this also completely prevents a man's ability to have a stable long-term relationship. Women think all men live like the top 20% because they literally pretend that the bottom 80% of men don't exist. To women, the top 20% are the only men. It's literally that simple and men have been saying the same thing over and over and over again for decades, but somehow w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:16 PM
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This is why I recommend against being selected based on the role over who you are as a person. Women want to be selected for "who they are" as a person, then turn around and select men based on immutable traits like height, face bones, etc. Who you are as a person and your role are interchangeable, at least when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:08 PM
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Man wants sex = bad, woman wants sex = good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:54 PM
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not guys hell bent on telling women daily they really really really dont want them now. Women have been doing this for about 50 years now, but naturally it only become a problem when men start doing it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:05 PM
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When women say "men", they are talking exclusively about the top 20% in terms of SMV. The bottom 80% of men don't exist to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:04 PM
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The former is fine, the latter is an indicator that this man is not a nice person. If only the average man could listen in on how women talk about men when there aren't any men around...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:02 PM
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Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do. When women say "everyone is entitled to their preferences", just swap out "everyone" with "only women".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:01 PM
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Most women, in fact, seem to think the exact opposite - that finding a "good" man is almost impossible. Most women's definition of a "good man" is what is figuratively referred to as "unicorn", which means that it doesn't exist for the average woman. So they are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:59 PM
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The "patriarchy" doesn't exist, it's a fictional monster that feminists/women use to justify their abuse and hatred towrads men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:57 PM
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100%, it's the main driving point behind the whole "fat acceptance" movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:56 PM
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How typical, a woman saying "b-b-b-but men do it too!" when confronted about negative actions that are overwhelmingly done by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:48 PM
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I’m so tired of this competition nonsense. Relationships aren’t scorecards. If your relationship isn’t working, end it. No one’s forcing you to stay with someone where you need a checklist to prove who does more. Most people will agree with you. The problem is that women say one thing, and then do another. Every relationship is different. In some, women contribute more. In some, men do. In some, it’s pretty balanced. You can’t declare that one gender “comes out ahead” in relationships in general…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:46 PM
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She is just trying to diminuize the facts becuase they don't line up with the feminist ideology that women are toiling away for their male tyrant overlords.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:43 PM
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When the facts show that men contribute more to a relationship women will try to scrutinize those facts and try to justify why they don't really count. Unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:41 PM
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The only value women truly understand is access to their hole. That's why they shame men for being virgins or "incels".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:37 PM
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I'm not talking about arranged marriages. What I am saying is that the woman picks the man, then the man is vetted by father/brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:56 PM
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Last time l fucking checked: women don't get men pregnant. Men and women are different, it doesn't take a biologist to understand that. We don't irresponsibly deposit our eggs into a man and fuck off, like men do constantly. Women abandon their children frequently. Also, men don't go through pregnancy and childbirth or abortion. Thank you for the biology lesson. There is no third fucking option where she gets to run off into the woods and avoid both childbirth or abortion. Correct, which is why …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:17 PM
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Feminists have made the term rape almost meaningless. Some women consider an ugly man hitting on them as "rape".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:10 PM
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Women are consistently sleeping with a smaller and smaller pool of men. The reigns of hypergamy have been removed and it is really starting to rear it's ugly head. Out of 10 women, ~5 of them are probably fucking the same guy and the other 5 wish they were fucking that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:08 PM
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First of all, women dont enjoy hook ups that much Another feminist lie. Women will do absolutely degenerate shit just to hook up with Chad. Studies and surveys have showed women orgasm less with hookups than relationships. Post a link to one of these "studies". They’ll complain about “women thinking they’re hot shit just because they can get men out of their league for sex”. Well, if her primary goal is sex too, why wouldn’t she think she’s hot shit? Those same women lament when the men they hoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:29 PM
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They aren't stupid, they know what the truth is. The problem is that they get more power and victim points by pretending that the world isn't the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:23 PM
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Women judge men by their actions, but judge themselves (and by extension, other women) by their intentions. It's a fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:17 PM
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For entirety of human history up until ~70 years ago, fathers and brothers were a big part in helping their daughter/sister select a good mate. Since the advent of feminism, women have collectively decided that the men that would ensure that they chose a good men are kneecapped in their ability to do that. Women choose men that give them tingles, the men that give them tingles are more likely to be a bad partner. Those same women then bitch and complain about all men because what they really wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:14 PM
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The same can't be said for alot of the male posters here, who seem to think that it's the fault of all women they can't get laid. Women assuming they know what men are thinking, and of course they assume that it's something "bad". It goes to show that women will never be able to have a good faith debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:54 PM
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Many women will embellsih things to get more victim points. Even though, SA is definitely wrong and men who do that kind of stuff need to be locked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:32 PM
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I kind of want to know if a woman you met online dating or quickly at a bar or club or event, if them vetting you with a series of tests is seen as a red flag for you? Shit-testing a man by insulting him or acting obtuse to check his frame are definitely red flags. If she is willing to act like in the "getting to know eachother" phase, it will only get worse the longer you know her. True vetting takes time and patience, its not something that can be done in one day. do you think women should vet…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:43 PM
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You literally proved my point. Men ignore and brush aside violence against women and point to violence against men. I never proved your point, you're just repeating that statement like a broken record because your entire argument hinges on "men = bad". It’s like men only care about other men when it comes to minimalizing violence against women. More feminist projection. I could tell you that a man saved 100 babies from a burning building and you would still somehow frame it as "misogyny". Men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:49 PM
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Coming close still isn't the same thing as all the presidents up to this point being male. Majority of directors, produces, judges, governors, CEOs being male. So you're just going to ignore the other female leaders I pointed out because it doesn't fit in to your biased argument. Women have been given the opportunity to become leaders, it's now up to them to rise to the occasion. To top it off, in every election since 1984 female voters have outnumbered male voters. Perhaps women just aren't cap…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:40 PM
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Did i say men ? Did i say anything at all about what you are going on ? It's quite apparent that you meant "men", you're just pretending that it's different because you don't have an actual counter argument. Women can be misogynistic too. Projecting much ? You are pretty pathetic to feel this much anger with my message. Deflection and projection, the main tools for debating in a feminists arsenal. Do not interact with me, you are vile ! Women frame criticism of themselves as "vile" and "misogyni…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:04 PM
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Americans have come close to having a female president twice, with a female VP in the last administration. A few other notable female leaders: Sanna Marin Angela Merkel Margaret Thatcher Giorgia Meloni The list goes on. Every single world leader could be a woman and feminists will stay say we live in a "patriarchy" because of "internalized misogyny". The true goal of those statements is to turn women into perpetual victims so they can justify hatred and misandry towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:59 PM
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And if pressed, they can still weasel out by saying that "men set up the system that exploits them". They try to use it as some kind of "gotcha" to justify hatred towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:57 PM
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But the percentage of men who justify or outright ignore the violence is much larger. Not true, you're just making shit up to suit your bias. But the percentage of men who justify or outright ignore the violence is much larger. To give an example, there was a young woman murdered by a man she didn’t know on a run not far from where I live. On the very trail I run on actually. Police told us to not be on the trail alone for fear of another woman being murdered. I had to go find another trail to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:54 PM
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I would imagine that the majority of these feminists think food is made at the grocery store, electricity is made at the outlet, and water is made at the faucet. They don't know what they don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:54 PM
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Yes, we know patriarchy harms men too. There is no "patriarchy". Considering that women are given far more privileges than men in modern society, I would argue that we live in a "matriarchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:52 PM
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Do you have any actual counter point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:51 PM
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Men do not have inherent utility to women, and in fact can engender women so women are more inclined to want to leave them alone The male mechanics that fix your car, the male soldiers that fight for your freedom, the male garbagemen that take your trash away, the men working at water treatment plants to ensure you can have safe drinking water, the men working on oil rigs so that you have gas in your car, have no utility? Another case of a woman taking everything in her life for granted. You pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:50 PM
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https://youtu.be/mDKhicHoxWY https://youtu.be/m9m29wC7R8w https://youtube.com/shorts/4W-ds11wMHI Just a few examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:48 PM
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It's just feminists shifting the blame from themselves and women. Once you see how they argue, it becomes so obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:45 PM
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I think an important part of this conversation is real-world application. How do the two actually manifest themselves in the real world, not exclusively online? This is gonna be good. Misogyny takes the cake there. Women are stalked, harassed, murdered, raped, subjugated, abused, and violated by men, far more than men are by women. It is a very small fraction of men that do these things, yet women can't seem to stay away from them. If you look at the actual statistics, women rape men at about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:43 PM
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The mental gymnastics here are ridiculous. Racism is racism, regardless of the race it's being projected at. This attitude will be the eventual downfall of blue pillers/feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:30 PM
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In conclusion, it’s easy to see that women hate men more than men love women. I couldn't agree more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:28 PM
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It's hilarious how hard feminists project on this sub. Women say shit like "kill all men", "all men are evil", "men should start their lives in prison and should only be let out when a woman says so" and then turn around and blame men for what women are actually doing. Men have caught on to the hypocrisy it and feminists can't stand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:27 PM
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She wouldn't be the first woman to use scripted reality TV as a "source" for human interactions. I think these women are perpetually online.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:10 PM
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To women, looks are status. That's why they will fuck a broke guy living with his mom who has to ask for rides to work as long as he is hot enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:13 PM
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How many women think Chris Hemsworth is unattractive? How many women think Danny DeVito is attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:21 PM
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Not only does the man have to be 6 feet tall, but he also has to be top 20% in terms of good looks. The amount of men that are 6 feet or taller in the US is ~15%. Of that 15%, only 20% will be considered hot enough for women to even consider them as dating prospects. That doesn't factor in income, either. The vast majority of women are chasing after the 1%, or even .1%, of men and then crashing out when it doesn't work out for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:20 PM
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there is a world of difference between “women aren’t attracted to a majority of men” and “women are universally attracted to the same minority of men”. These two things go hand in hand, they are not mutually exclusive. i think that’s where people end up talking past each other on this. if you make a venn diagram of men that two women are attracted to, it’s not gonna be a circle like RP often implies, there are gonna be a significant number of men in the non-overlapping areas. Those men will have…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:18 PM
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I was a Chad at one point. Seeing how women operate has really opened my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:09 PM
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In fact it is not primarily physical for women, as compared to men. Bullshit. Women will fuck an actual rapist if he has the right face bones. There's been several tinder experiments on this subject. https://youtu.be/Alp3kLya2m4
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:49 PM
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The fact that no-fault divorce exists proves this. Marriage benefits women far more than it does men because women will use the divorce option to increase their finances and lifestyle. Women want men to be traditional for them while they don't have to be traditional themselves, it's 100% a double standard that they will never admit because it doesn't give them victim points.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:43 PM
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This. Women are like water, they will say and do whatever gives them the most benefit in any situation. Some of them even let it slip in debates here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:40 PM
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I've turned down beautiful women because their n count was too high. I don't want to risk getting some sort of disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:39 PM
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It boils down to cakism. Women want to be sluts (for chad), but still want the benefits that come from being a "virtuous" woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:38 PM
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What does this even mean, Jesus... She is saying that she wants to be able to filter men based off of height, but doesn't want to be judged for it so that she can still pretend to be virtuous and not shallow. Cognitive dissonance and all that jazz.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:37 PM
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Women have convinced a good portion of men that they are prudish and don't like casual sex. That is a lie, women like casual sex even more than men do, as long as its with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:22 PM
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You can control what choices you make, but women seem to think that they can also control others reactions to those choices (hint: you can't).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:20 PM
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go WAY farther than anyone really wants to admit Than women want to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:00 AM
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In my view, abortion is murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:32 PM
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I’m not shifting the blame for anything: the reason women don’t seek out casual sex and generally don’t engage in it with certain men is because women have been taught that sex is bad. I almost can't believe this, you say you're not shifting the blame and then immediately try to shift the blame. Incredible. They are only taking the risk for a man they find to be worth the risk for whatever reason. Because they can't control the urge to fuck the hot guy. It's an issue with women themselves. Compa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:10 PM
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Then men should learn to close their fucking mouths if they are so afraid of that people might say about them. Men don't even have to do anything for women to do shit like that to them. Example: https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/bucks-co-woman-gets-prison-for-fake-attempted-rape-kidnapping-claims/4149486/. I don't know any normal woman whose standards for men are high n-count. The fact that women use "incel" as an insult shows that they want a man that other women desire. It doesn't mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:02 PM
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then it's up to them to make it more desirable for women. That was the case until the sexual revolution and eventual introduction of social media and online dating. Women have had their egos inflated to the point that most of them will end up alone or feeling as if they "settled" for a man who is either their SMV match, or maybe even better than her SMV but not quite "Chad". Chad-lite. Women want the freedom to fuck any and every man they want without the accountability and responsibilities that…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:52 PM
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Or, instead of crossing state lines to commit crimes, they could just keep their fucking legs shut. Women want the freedom to fuck every hot guy they come across, but don't want to deal with the accountability and responsibilities of said freedom. Here's a good comparison: Doing drugs feels good, but if someone can't control themselves it will eventually cause problems to that person. Now imagine that same person expects the rest of society to clean up their life due to their own bad decisions. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:39 PM
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Treated lesser among who? Other men? You inflicting that on your own gender, why do women responsible for men putting a spoke in your own wheel? Treated lesser by women because those men don't meet said womens' unrealistic and delusional standards of what counts as a man. Tell me which problem is worse: abortion, becoming single mother, getting STDs or gasp BEING CALLED AN INCEL by some dumb fuck who's opinion doesn't matter. You say this implying that women have no choice in abortion, becoming …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:29 PM
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If men were the gatekeepers of sex, I would agree with you. It's up to the woman to say "yes" or "no" to any man who propositions her, yet women still act as if sex is something done "to" them, instead of done "by" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:24 PM
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Can you refute anything I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:21 PM
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This advice hinges on men not understanding how women operate. Women use the same standard for men that they use for themselves: the best looking one wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:21 PM
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Women absolutely hate it when men improve themselves. Women are given their value up front, from age 18-24 they will have the most value they will have their entire lives. Due to solipsism, these same women think that men think as they do and have the same motivations as they do. Women want to be perfect as is without having to put effort, and they want the men they fuck to be that way too. If a man improves himself to the point that he becomes Chad, most women will still see him as a "fake" Cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:20 PM
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Agreed. The end goal for women is to turn men into second class citizens that are forced to serve them while they get to do whatever they want with no accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:51 PM
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so they are usually more self aware than women who have never tried to figure themselves out Why do women always try to frame their faults as a positive? Being diagnosed as bordeline is not a good thing in any context.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:50 PM
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Women give advice that benefits themselves, not the person they are giving advice to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:49 PM
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Men with bad genes who think that they have good genes usually agree with you. What does this have to do with women being awful at selecting mates?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:48 PM
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i wanted sex. Yet women think that shouldn't be held accountable for any of the consequences that come from having sex. Don't want to be pregnant? Don't have sex. It's simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:47 PM
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Women get upset that a man they perceived as hot doesn’t want them for the same reasons men get upset a woman they think is hot doesn’t want to sleep with the. Only men get shamed for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:46 PM
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These weird little circle jerk chains are funny to me because it exposes the hypocrisy that feminists on this sub spew.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:42 PM
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Those women are all fucking the same top 10% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:41 PM
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You can't be this unaware that women are dying every day because doctors can't abort an unviable fetus. Around 1,200 women die every year due to pregnancy complications, out of ~5 million pregnancies. It is such a statistical outlier that it basically meaningless. Women want to abort their babies so that they can keep living their frivolous, degenerate lifestyles and not have to worry about a pesky child keeping them from fucking Chad. Source: https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:39 PM
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Pregnancy is avoidable, 80% of men being treated as lesser because they can't get laid is not. Tell me which one will become a problem first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:37 PM
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She's talking about abortion. Women like to pretend that all women are going to die for certain if they're pregnant and can't have an abortion because it gives them sympathy and victim points. If you look at the actual statistics, only 5% of abortions were done for medical reasons. Women just want to be able to fuck Chad after Chad without having to worry about that pesky fetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:36 PM
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The lack of accountability is astounding. The problem is that women can't help themselves from fucking every Totally Hawt Guy (tm) that they come across and then act like everyone else needs to deal with the consequences of it. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, so the onus for selecting a mate falls on them. Its 100% on you that you let some guy fuck you before you could vet that he would be a good mate. Do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:11 PM
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Women are awful at selecting mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:08 PM
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When men complain about how hard it is for them to find sex they often place the blame and responsibility for a solution on women, Social media and online dating having sent womens' egos through the roof. Modern women think that they should be given shit just by virtue of existing and being in the presence of a man. Slut shaming is a biological imperative because men don't truly know if a child is theres, meanwhile the mother will always know because she is the one that gave birth. Too many wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:06 PM
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The only unit of value women truly understand is access to their vagina. That's why so many women crash out when Chad leaves after she fucked him on the first date, because she expected to get some return on giving up her hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:04 PM
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women don't want to lose leverage. This is also why women like to pretend that they are some sort of oppressed victim class at the hands of "evil men". It gives them leverage and sympathy so that they can get other people to do things for them or give them shit for free. with how many women dislike men nowadays, all of this just gets amplified because these women don't want to see men 'win'. The feminists and blue pillers in this sub exemplify this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:00 PM
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It's just another sly tactic to shift accountability from women onto men. Notice how they only mention this when the subject is women dating older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:48 PM
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Do you think that makes women look good?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:55 PM
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Women are shamed for having kids with brokies. Women are shamed for not vetting men that they sleep with. Hell couples are shamed for having kids if they can’t afford them. Not unreasonable. people are overly cautious about starting families because they were trained to be that way. It is up to the individual to educate themselves. Sometimes it just seems easier to check out of the whole game and just take care of yourself Men are doing this at an increasing rate becuase women are exponentially …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:41 PM
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Because modern women still get raped and give birth Men get raped at an equal rate, when you factor in "forced to penetrate" and prison rape statistics. Giving birth is voluntary, if you don't want to give birth then don't get pregnant. and as such are at risk for systemic inequities Please elaborate. In what way does giving birth give women a risk for systemic inequalities? If that's truly the case, then why do women get tax breaks for having children? Why do single mothers get the overwhelming…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:08 PM
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what is with men who had nothing to do and have nothing to do with the creation of society trying to take credit for the work of better men. What is with women who have never been oppressed in their life trying to take credit for being oppressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:04 PM
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No, they aren't. Women can barely handle basic house chores, yet I'm expected to think that women are the builders of society like men are. Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:10 PM
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So you go from "man has to spoil his woman" to "taking care of eachother" to make your point sound a bit less selfish. I'm not buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:05 PM
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15% of men is still a lot of men Absolutely delusional. Those statistics don't count for race, age, height, face bones, hair, or any of the other shit women filter men by.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:40 AM
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I can't even begin to describe the level of entitlement someone has to have to think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:28 AM
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We all know those women will remain single and childless, the burden on society as a whole will be immense because those same women will demand that men make them not-miserable cat ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:23 AM
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Less than 20% of men make over 100K a year Women consistently proving the 80/20 theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:20 AM
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Women will always do whatever benefits themselves the most. Convincing men that women shouldn't adhere to their gender roles while simultaneously expecting men to double the effort into their traditional role exposes the hypocrisy. Many women want men to do both gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:19 AM
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How many of those slaves were men? Here's a neat little chart that gives a decent estimate: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1183869/ratio-male-female-slaves-by-route-1636-1867/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:20 PM
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Yes, the vast majority of men are victims of thousands of years of oppression. Did you know that Cleopatra had an entire palace full of male slaves? Did you know that Queen Elizabeth I was a key member in forming the trans-atlantic slave trade, which she also profited greatly from?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:18 PM
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That's the typical mindset of women. They think that they should always be given things, but not have to give things themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:14 PM
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This is obviously just another "man = bad" post, but I'll bite. Lots of men i fell have this major revenge fantasy where they got no girls in hs or collage and think that where their 30-40 the young women that rejected then will now be all over them. I agree with this, there are a lot of weak blue-pilled men who think that way. But from my experience, out of literally all the girls i knew in my early-mid twenties none of them ever dated a guy 3-4 years older than them. statistically the average …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:52 PM
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but the red pill kinda sucks at pointing out green flags. The majority of modern women don't have any green flags. How can someone point out what isn't there to begin with? And obviously if the red pill teaches you how to spot bad behaviour in women, and only bad behaviour, well that's what you're going to see ;) TRP isn't teaching anyone anything. Unlike women, men are capable of looking at a mindset objectively and taking the parts of it that suit themselves the most. Women, on the other hand,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:43 PM
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There are literally no other options. The vast majority of women have had their egos inflated to the moon. That's why we keep hearing about the "male loneliness epidemic".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:40 PM
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Because half of the genetics come from the woman. Woman think that they will be guaranteed to have famous athlete sons if they get impregnated by a talented athlete without realizing that their own genetics will get in the way of that. Women think they are perfect as is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:37 PM
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because i'm pretty sure my dad is even more fussy about who the father of my kids might be than i am. There is it, gentlemen. Women don't give a fuck who blows a wad in them, as long as he is a Totally Hawt Guy (tm). These women take it for granted that everyone else in their life (and the state) will pick up their slack to make sure that the child doesn't end up being a criminal, which mostly happens in single mother households. Your father cares about this because, deep down, he knows that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:35 PM
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men i talk to tend to be more inclined to respond, plan dates, etc. but they’re almost never looking for a relationship. This proves the 80/20 rule. Women chase top 20% of men that don't commit to them and then women turn around and blame it on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:29 PM
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Yes, because they get more from the relationship than women do. Women tend to think their used up vaginas are the most important and valuable thing in existence, so I understand why you think this. The truth is that a man in a relationship will have less resources than a man who isn't in a relationship because women still demand that men make more than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:26 PM
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Only women are asked to do both gender roles. How many women are shamed if they don't work enough to make more than their spouse? How many women have to spend 12 hours a day, 6 days a week working back breaking labor-type jobs like construction? Meanwhile men are asked to do all of that and then come home and take care of the shit the woman was supposed to while she sat on her ass all day. Women are mentally and emotionally like children and expect their spouse to replace their father.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:17 PM
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I mean I have said from the beginning that I agree that it is easier to get into relationships because maintaing relationships with you all is exhausting. Dealing with women is far more exhausting than dealing with men in just about every capacity. That being said women are not exhausting to men. They are annoying. Which is different. Implying that you have any idea what men find exhausting or annoying is pretty delusional. Women have a habit of making mountains out of molehills.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:00 PM
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All of these people are forgetting that women will gladly forgo any standards they may have for Chad, and Chad alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:56 PM
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because it's fucking work for women to be in relationships with men, with little to no reciprocation from men. Imagine making up a false strawman in your head and then expecting everyone to play along with it. Delusional. Women know their worth and they preserve their value by being extremely picky because they have the most to lose. That's why there are more single mothers every year, right? Because women just know how to pick men so well, right? If women had any sense they would realize fuckin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:40 PM
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Those are not tests to see if men will lie, they're tests to see if he can read between the lines and affirm her feelings in that moment. Emotional IQ. Very typical that a woman wants to deny reality so she can infalte her own value more than she already has. Men should not be scared to tell a woman she looks like shit if she looks like shit. If you really don't get why "no, I wouldn't love you if you were a worm" isn't an acceptable answer, you have some stuff going on. This sounds like mental …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:26 PM
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and not only do women still largely expect men to fulfill the same gender roles, it is now harder and harder for men to fulfill those roles. Modern women expect men to fill both roles these days. They want a man who makes 6 figures while she gets to do shit like pilates at 10:30 AM, 1pm wine brunch, etc. while the kids are being taken care of by nanny/grandparents and then when that man gets home he does all of the cooking and cleaning while she sits around and scrolls IG/TikTok/whatever social …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:20 PM
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50% of men should be considered below average, that is not "male" or "female" math. The issue is that women act as if the bottom 80% of men literally don't exist, so when women say "average" they really mean "average of the top 20%".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:16 PM
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Men will put u sometimes in bad situations and expect u to deal with it Please define "bad situations". Are the men you date putting you in harm's way? If so, you should stop being around those men. I have a suspicion that by "bad situations", what you really mean is that he is holding you accountable for things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:14 PM
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That's the typical response of a blue piller. They think that anyone who disagrees with them or criticizes them actually hates them, which is how they justify the hatred and vitriol they spew in response.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:57 PM
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For every decent woman, there are 9 women that are absolute dumpster fires.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:56 PM
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People do tell women to pick better tho. And then those women scream and throw a tantrum because they can't do whatever they want, whenever they want without facing any sort of accountability or consequences. They think it's funny when they say shit like "I'm just a girl teehee". Even worse when she's in an abusive relationship,as if it's entirely her fault. If women don't want to be with men that beat them, then they need to stay out of relationships all together until they properly vet the man…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:55 PM
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She is basically saying "no u".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:49 PM
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Do guys not like leading anymore? It's natural for men to lead. The problem is that women as a whole have sytematically removed mens' ability to lead and then turn around and blame men for not being leaders. It's just a societal-wide shit test from women and the majority of men have failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:48 PM
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Not being transactional doesn’t mean forcing yourself to date men you don’t like, find unattractive, or are incompatible with. Women seem to think that when men say "womens' standards are too high" that they mean those women should be forced at gunpoint to fuck ugly men. What men are really saying is that womens' standards are too high and they are blaming and shaming men as a whole when Chad doesn't give them what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:47 PM
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Women vilify men for doing the exact same things that they do because it gives them victim points. Women are abusing mens' sense of honor and traditionalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:45 PM
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How would you feel if men were encouraged to ask women their body count, cup size, weight, etc. before even getting the chance to know the person? I have a feeling you would refer to that as "misogyny". If women didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:44 PM
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And it’s up to you to not go for the 3% of gold diggers out there who are on sugar dating sites and are insta models. "3% of gold diggers" is such a ridiculous underestimation. The vast majority of women are what men would consider "gold diggers" in the sense that they will only go after men who make more money than themselves. Pick a regular woman who likes you. The majority of couples split bills. Most men can’t even afford if women were actually transactional and actually reduced men to a ban…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:42 PM
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I am deeply unsympathetic about the problems of the problem, yes. Implying that men as a whole are a "problem"... meanwhile those same men are taking your garbage away, running the coal plants that provide you electricity, keeping infrastructure in place so that you can have water and food... yet somehow they are a "problem". I didn't ask you for sympathy because I have better ways to waste my time. I simply find it silly that you thought this would get you any. It's funny that this is what you …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:08 PM
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Changing the subject won't make you correct and they make you especially unsympathetic. Women are already unsympathetic towards men, yet demand those men be sympathetic towards them. Make it make sense. No one cares about "male issues" that only suddenly matter when discussing women. I know I certainly don't. Yeah, I'm well aware that feminists only give a fuck about themselves. It's also funny that you think those issues only matter when discussing women, as well. That is solipsism at work. As …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:51 PM
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The manner the red pill wraps this in is absolutely hateful and counterintuitive to benefiting young men It's not hateful and it is certainly beneficial to young men. You don't like it because men being aware of female nature gives women less opportunities to manipulate and use those men. PS. White men are given the same, not because they possess any sort of outstanding ability or skill, but because they’re white. They’re the biggest beneficiaries of nepotism and privilege Is that why white men …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:44 PM
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I agree with you. Men absolutely need to vet the women they decide to make their GF/wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:33 PM
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I see the same thing on AskMen subs too. No you don't. Hell... look at the responses on "Question For Women" flaired threads on PPD... even though these aren't debate threads... they can be so hostile towards the OP as if it's a debate thread. Hard to find a single shred of nuance anywhere. Why are so many users in this sub like that? Because most women are bitter and jaded that Chad didn't pick them, so they go online to complain. Most feminists in this sub aren't interested in a debate, they j…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:03 PM
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here her useless husband fucks off back to work and then video games in the evening, leaving her to take care of everything by her self. Sounds like she should have picked a better husband, then. There's is zero post partum maternal support in America, I'm not going to begrudge these women holding on to weight during the first few years of their children's lives. Oh, so maternity leave doesn't exist now?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:56 PM
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This is not a "today's society" thing. It has always been understood that women become a little plump in middle age. Absolutely not true. What is happening is those women are eating the same as they did when they were teenagers, so as their metabolism slows down they gain weight. There is no excuse for being overweight. This is what's referred to as a "matronly figure" and it's very common in old photos This in reference to the size of their breasts, not just being overweight in general. It cert…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:46 PM
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Firstly I’m not sure where the 80/20 comes from, that kinda seems like just a number you’re throwing out based off of dating app data and not the real world. It's a well documented phenomenon, but naturally women like to pretend they don't know things when it suits them. You're basically saying "the facts don't agree with the delusional shit in my head so the facts are wrong". That is called "cognitive dissonance". My point is, if women don’t want to date men they find unattractive, what problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:42 PM
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It's a lot to ask, and completely unrealistic, for someone to never have sex ever if they don't want a child, and it could just happen nonconsensually anyway. (Would you do that?) That doesn't matter. Stop letting deadbeats blow a wad in you if you don't want the risk of becoming pregnant. It's incredible how women are so allergic to accountability. Also, the little dig at the end there asking if I would have nonconsensual sex with a woman is totally unecessary and quite insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:37 PM
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I disagree with you. As soon as conception happens, that fetus is now a living person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:24 PM
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Imagine if you had something inside your body that could kill you and would certainly alter your life and body forever. Women have been collectively brainwashed that pregnancy and having children is a bad thing. If you think that having a fetus inside of you is trying to kill you and alter your body forever, then stop doing the thing that creates a fetus. Women want to take credit for all of the fun parts of sex, pregnancy, and child bearing but somehow also want to blame men and be victims to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:24 PM
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As for rights men have that women do not, are you suggesting that equality has always been the case? Is it likely to always be the case? Have you not seen posts on this very sub where it is argued that women should be requried to have sex with or to marry men? Dancing around the question and moving goalposts. Answer the original question I postulated. I deeply wish for a time and an enlightenment where men and women do have equal rights that are accepted as the moral, ethical, and natural right …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:21 PM
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Is your question supposed to refute my point, or is it just the feminist de-facto way to try and move the goalposts? Just because women say they are only attracted to the top 20% of men doesn't mean that thinking they can have a relationship with those men if they aren't a top 20% women themselves is any less delusional. I would say the same thing to an overweight man making 40k a year who thinks he deserves to be in a relationship with Sydney Sweeney.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:13 PM
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It's actual science, unlike the shit feminists and blue pillers use for sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:02 PM
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I’m not sure what women you’re speaking to but most women I know are struggling to find a guy who doesn’t ghost them or try to fuck on the first date Because 80% of women want to exclusively date and fuck the top 20% of men. It's a problem women created, so they need to fix it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:21 PM
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So, some extreme feminsts are misandrists and that is bad? Yeah, I'm okay with that. But you're not okay with some men being misogynists, got it. Another hypocritical double standard from a woman. I'm still a feminist and I believe women are human beings and deserve equal rights. Tell me what rights men have that women don't. I'll wait. I'm getting tired of seeing "feminist" be a bad word by misogynists and those brain washed by misogynists. Yet women run around and yell "incel" at every man the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:59 PM
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Are you trying to imply that women cannot be dangerous at all, under any circumstance? Going by the rhetoric you usually spew, you probably think women would somehow be justified in being dangerous towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:57 PM
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The women/feminists/blue pillers here think they are justified in being openly misandrist because they've been brainwashed into thinking that women were "slaves" for the entirety of human history. The reality is that they believe in female superiority, not female equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:56 PM
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I don’t really care what studies or evidence is used Not surprising. The ends justify the means to feminists, even to the detriment of society as a whole. Feminism has given me the same power, choices, opportunities and rights as a man and I am so grateful for those women snd men that fought for that. Yet women still complain that they are victims and are being subjugated by men. Which is it? I already know the answer, it's whichever one gives you the most benefit and power in any given situiati…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:54 PM
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As I stated in another comment. only 5% of abortions were done due to medical reasons. Preventing women from murdering their unborn children is not "segregation", its preventing murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:52 PM
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Tell that to the dead women who couldn't be saved due to arbitrary new laws that impede medical care. Ah yes, women want to be able to carte blanche murder their own unborn children. Less than 5% of abortions were performed for medical reasons when it was legal, so it sounds like you just want to be able to fuck chad raw without having to worry about those pesky babies. Women are deathly allergic to accountability. Tell that to the teenagers being wed to grown men in this country. What about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:51 PM
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Absolutely delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:48 PM
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I do not, I can't imagine thinking and living like this. It definitely tracks with the 80/20 rule, though. Women judge others by their actions, but themselves by their intent. Woman create monsters in their heads and then expect men to fight those said monsters for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:37 PM
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It is a common sentiment among women that they claim they can't find any attractive men. The problem is that the attractive men they want are already with attractive women. Most people know a guy who thinks strippers acutally like him, women are like that guy for Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:33 PM
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Children acting like children. It's telling that the only thing you could find that doesn't make women look incompetent is an experiment with literal children. I shouldn't be surprised, because most women stop maturing mentally around age 16.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:30 PM
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Projection: The Post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:59 PM
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Women see disagreement and criticism as "hatred".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:56 PM
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But this is the thing. Men treat each other like this. Men clutch their pockets and walk on the other side of the road when its late at night or they walk past shady looking people. You say that as if being cognizant of your surroundings is a bad thing. Do you think going into deep wooded areas in bear country without some form of pepper spray or a weapon is smart? Men just are the more violent people. Statistically. That doesn't mean most men are tho. Correct. Men have to have the capability of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:54 PM
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It’s almost like the red pilled is common sense wrapped up in hate presented by bitter grifters to socially autistic western men of privilege. Red pill is common sense. There is nothing hateful about it. Now, about that privilege, when does that kick in? Women are carte blanche given high status positions not because they are qualified, but because they have two holes between their legs instead of one. That sounds a lot like privilege to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:46 PM
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If they admit to any of that stuff they will lose their victim status. Women thrive when they can consider themselves victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:43 PM
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I've noticed that women/feminists/blue pillers on this sub tend to resort to insulting the messenger instead of the message itself. Can you provide any counterpoints to his statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:42 PM
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Tell me if you find any of those women desirable. Let me know. Or if you actually believe any of the young Gambian men find those women attractive. Lol. So a person is only allowed to find love if they are "desirable". That just proves my point that women only see attractive men as actual people, but also other women. It's no different for american men who travel abroad to poorer countries in order to find a woman. But you'll argue and claim that it's different. Sure. Assumptions. I am all for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:59 PM
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Ironically threatening a man with accusations would be evidence proving the allegation was a lie. Very rare. Yet women still do it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:52 PM
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Can you provide any counter-arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:52 PM
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Blue pillers and feminists use false equivalence at every possible opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:50 PM
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Women are literally told to put men first. Please post a source for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:49 PM
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I'm giving that show as an example, because many people here on Reddit are delusional. Obviously reality tv can be scripted. I can give 2 real life examples: Reality TV shows and anecdotes are your source, you're gonna have to do better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:55 AM
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I don't think I'm better than anyone. Hey, if a woman can hustle her way out of poverty- Good for her. Women tend to see relationships as purely transactional once the initial shine of chad wears off, so that makes sense. Many of these men who go over to those countries love the power imbalance it brings. Fuck 'em. They deserve to get screwed over. How cliche, men = bad. Women absolutely hate it when men want to find love with anyone but themselves, even though they still reject those men. Formi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:55 AM
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Two contradicting statements literally right next to eachother. It does not provide any insight into relationship dynamics because it is edited and scripted to elicit reaction from the viewer, which is predominantly women. Reality TV is not real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:22 PM
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Answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:36 PM
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lol I don’t think it’s real life. Okay... It would be beneficial for men to watch shows like this to understand relationship dynamics more though. It doesn’t matter that the drama is heightened compared to real life. It goes into the psychology and attraction. You can glean so much information. So your previous statement was a lie. No wonder women have gone off the deep end in the last 10 years, they think reality TV is how relationships work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:25 PM
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Demanding things that you don't deserve or are out of your league, just like women demanding that Chad commits to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:16 PM
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Reality TV is scripted to elicit emotional responses in women so that they keep watching it and driving up ad revenue for the producers. I'm not surprised that a woman thinks TV is real life, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:11 PM
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The women saying that genuinely think that they are better than the women in those other countries. Solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:11 PM
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The only people referring to these men as "losers" are the very same women who claim that they don't want or care about those men. Do you think men should be forced to bear torment and abuse from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:10 PM
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He left his door wide open Starting off with a lie. The man had a ring camera, after the authoritites reviewed it they decided to arrest the girl. pretended to be asleep and positioned himself in full view of the door with his dick out and a pillow completely covering his face Pretended? Once again, you're just making shit up. OF COURSE he said leave it at the doorstep, that's exactly what he wanted and set up the scene exactly for that. The instructions said leave it at the doorstep, which the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:07 PM
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And if you do end up agreeing that he did it on purpose, you'll then add on that it wasn't that big of a deal probably. Not gonna happen, because he didn't do it on purpose. She was instructed to leave it on the doorstep, not film him inside of his house. The fact that she has been charged with multiple felonies corroborates this, but I shouldn't be surprised that women will stick up for eachother even when they commit gross sexual crimes against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:58 PM
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But hopefully none of them men here complaining about taking women on dates aren’t also the men who say they can’t get women interested in them. Women are exclusively interested in top 20% men, so it doesn't really matter what the rest of the men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:51 PM
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Well said, I agree with everything you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:47 PM
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Women want all of the benefits of men being traditional without any of the negatives of being a traditional woman. Basically cakism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:37 PM
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A lot of guys today act like planning dates, paying, or “entertaining” women is some kind of feminist psy-op. But that story ignores a reality of why men traditionally court and put effort into dating women, because it produces better results. Men traditionally courted women who were traditional. Modern women are not traditional and they will laugh at and use men who try to court them while they are fucking 3 different chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:31 PM
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You consider yourself in the bottom 80% False assumption. yet from your comments I can tell that you're gonna be a manipulative piece of shit in order to fuck me. Another false assumption. That's what I mean. I mean you, specifically you. Why would I want to date you if you only look at me as the common points between all women ? Okay, so you're making things personal. I don't want you to date me because there's a good chance you don't meet my standards. If you look at me and see "Woman #235643"…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:42 PM
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I'm just saying, what's the point of trying to form a genuine relationship with a man if you can't be sure he'll reciprocate because APPARENTLY most men are manipulative pieces of shit ? Thanks for proving my point. You think most men are pieces of shit because the totally hawt guys (top 20%) that 80% of women want to fuck are the only men that are actually considered people act like pieces of shit and women still line up to fuck them because women lie when they say they care about "personality"…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:17 PM
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Also, we're warned by men themselves that men will often pretend to have genuine relationships with us in order to get in our pants, so like. Yet women still go after the men that just want some sex because those guys are top 20% of SMV. This is a behavior that women have to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:01 PM
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“being unattractive is acceptable and fathomable” doesnt mean “the other gender is sexually attracted to you despite the fact youre unattractive.” I see this mindset in women far more than men. Women think men should be forced to be attracted to them even if they're 100 pounds overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:00 PM
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It's certainly not women to make laws to punish 100% of women. It's men who make those laws because they see those 20% of women and they decide that all women are like that. Women are the largest voting bloc, so it's not men "making those laws". And we do hate those 20% of women, but also men for confusing us with them. Do you think women are justified in thinking all men are violent rapists because of the actions of a few men? Your answer to that question is very important. When men worry about…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:58 PM
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But also men don't want to have a woman they connect with so like what's the point in trying to form a bond with a man if he just wants a warm sperm hole. A woman pretending that she has any idea what men are thinking is hilarious. You say that because those are the men that women tend to surround themselves with. Choose better men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:34 PM
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The majority of feminist posters on this sub keep doing it, it makes no sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:10 PM
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because its acceptable and fathomable for a man to be unattractive. a woman has to at least be fuckable. If that were true, then women wouldn't pretend like 80% of men don't exist and only go after the top 20% of men. Women like to pretend that they are altruistic as a whole, but in reality they are far more shallow than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:10 PM
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Women objectify Chad far more than men objectify any woman. Women literally base their entire existence around fucking the highest level Chad they possibly can.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:07 PM
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Because men aren't judged by their skin but their ability to provide which they stress about just like women stress about their looks. That's not true. Women judge men on looks and their ability to provide, meanwhile women are judged for looks and sexual history. Women like to pretend that they aren't the most shallow gender because they want to distract you from the fact that they are the shallow ones. They have to distract you because if men caught on, then men wouldn't give women free shit an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:03 PM
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They'll be proud of their bodies even if it's not that healthy, they'll identify with it, they'll get mad if they don't get appreciated for it, and they classify everything they are and everything they do as a genetics thing or biological deterministic thing. The hordes of women pushing for fat acceptance says otherwise. Why does every feminist/blue pill post reek of projection? So when we're liked for our bodies it's really that we're not liked, and some other person that would better be repres…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:01 PM
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You hate men because of the actions of women? That's quite the logic there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:56 PM
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I’m really sorry you feel that way. To have no feelings of connection with half the worlds population sounds like a miserable existence and I can’t imagine it can be bringing you much joy or love. Ironic coming from a woman on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:42 PM
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Nobody is falsely accusing guys of rape. Men aren't threatening women with violence. Do you think women would willingly admit that they had physical contact with you guys? Women do anything that gets them victim points. Just look at the doordash girl who filmed that man inside of his house and tried to play victim. Men are the biggest threat to other men, women are not. A small minority of men are threatening to other men, meanwhile all women are capable of false accusations against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:41 PM
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What is there to counter? You post this video every few days and ignore any attempts to debate in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:56 PM
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Women see rejection as the ultimate insult. That's why the vast majority of their insults towards men revolve around sex and access to their vaginas (or lack thereof).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:47 PM
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Or, its because you aren't in a debate sub to actually debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:46 PM
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Some men DO expect praise for it. So it goes from men in general to "some" men. They'll flat out threaten women with violence and then act like we should be thankful because they didn't actually commit the violence. Women flat out threaten men with false rape accusations, among other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:46 PM
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Just for once I want an example of an actually violent abusive asshole to be in one of these posts. Not just a dude who rejected someone in a somewhat rude way. Women only ever criticize regular dudes for mild asshole behavior like flipping someone off or dropping a banana peel on the street. Women think that some disagreeing with them means that person is an asshole. Unless its Chad, of course. Chad can do whatever he wants to women and they will still line up to fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:44 PM
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Says the person who repeats the same refuted point for years. I have no problem with women chasing and sleeping with whoever the Hell they want. I have a problem with those women turning 40 and expecting me to absorb the costs of their choices. They will never understand this, on purpose. They think that society should clean up their lives for them after they spend two years jumping from man to man, acting like children in a candy store.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:56 PM
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Do women just spend their entire day bitching to eachother about men they claim they don't even want?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:51 PM
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Women consider attention from bottom 80% of men as "dehumanizing". Women dress the way they do, wear makeup, and all of that other shit to get the attention of Chad. They don't care if Chad wants them for just their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:31 PM
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Women are literally incapapble of seeing things through the lens of the average man. They think all men live life like top 20% chads because only the top 20% are actually considered people to them. This is why I will never have sympathy for women when they complain about sex or relationships in any capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:29 PM
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They aren't really interested in me, just sex. Meanwhile women aren't really interested in men, just their bank accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:15 PM
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although it should not be tolerated either as there is no justifiable or sensible reason for it, Denying free speech is a slippery slope, who would enforce this? Women want to deny free speech because they just aren't capable of logic and reasoning in the same way that men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:52 PM
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You didn't answer the question, you just turned it into a typical "but women do it too" reaction. Because women having hypocritical double standards is a far more pressing issue than being slut shamed. The question is "What's your motive for trying to shame someone else regarding your beliefs/preferences?" And you just gave a childish and weak "because women do it too 😭". No, the question was "why is slut shaming wrong". What is so "wrong" with a woman enjoying safe, consensual,casual sex as an …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:19 PM
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Contradicting statements literally a sentence apart. Absolute pottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:00 AM
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I don’t think women know what they’re asking when they ask men to treat them “like equals.” Agreed. A lot of men operate in a callous, inconsiderate, or domineering way that I don’t generally regard. A lot of them treat each other terribly. A minority percentage, for sure. I have no interest in those men treating me like they treat other men. They don’t seem to have a litmus for decency or common courtesy. There it is. Women don't want to be equal to men, they want to be coddled as if they are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:23 PM
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Of course it’s relevant, especially when men are always referencing and preferring those times, Projecting shit women actually do to suit your bias, why are blue pillers incapable of good faith debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:17 PM
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Maybe we can realize that although women are very empathetic, Feminism and blue pill ideology have done a fine job of convincing men that this is true. Women are far more cut throat than men are, they have to be because they aren't as phsyically strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:15 PM
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Women want all of the benefits of pregnancy, sex, and child bearing but naturally try to shift the blame of the negative stuff towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:06 PM
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You want zero accountability for impregnating a woman. Men do not have accountability for impregnating women because men are not the selectors of sex. It is up to women to vet the men they sleep with. If women were capable of closing their legs and not fucking every single hot guy the same day, even the same hour, that they meet him then it wouldn't be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:05 PM
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This is like bullying someone and then saying it was "just a joke" after they react badly, it does not track the way you think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:03 PM
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And like always, everything is women's fault. Feminist hyperbole designed to deflect from the real problem which is women's lack of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:01 PM
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For whatever reason, some of these dudes seem to think they are the authority and I should bow down to their greatness. The projection and irony that some of these feminist takes have is incredulous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:42 PM
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That's the mindset women tend to get when they are rejected by chad, incels are the same way. The difference is that women will vilify the incels while empowering the femcels, their hypocrisy and double standards are on show for everyone to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:40 PM
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No, that is absolutely delusional. If women want to orgasm more, it's on women to figure it out. If women keep selecting for men that don't give a fuck if they orgasm, it's on women to figure it out. Women are the selectors of sex, so the onus falls on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:07 PM
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I have a feeling the post your replying to was made by a woman, men just don't talk like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:05 PM
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If by "male's lack of skill and ability", you actually mean "most men aren't chad" then I would agree with you. Imagine being misandrist against men when you're a man yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:04 PM
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Women want all of the benefits of their biology and want to shove the blame for all of the negatives on to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:44 PM
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Women want to be absolved of all responsibility for anything in their lives. They want to sit around all day while men do the men jobs and the womens jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:44 PM
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Exactly, OP acting like women are a minority when roughly half the world population is women 🤦‍♂️. They get victim points, which gives them power. The purpose of feminism is not female equality, its female superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:42 PM
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When women do something that other women and blue pillers consider "bad", its suddenly a "multi faceted issue" and we shouldn't be quick to judge. Women only care about getting more power and everything they say and do is designed to suit that agenda, regardless of how true it is or how it affects everyone else in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:23 PM
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The work needed to establish a political party can take millions of people and decades of years. Meanwhile women have spent the last 50 years bitching and complaining non-stop instead of forming these political parties. No one candidate is able to "put in the work" all by themselves and you wouldn't criticise a male candidate this way. A woman deflecting labor and making assumptions, why am I not surprised. Men will most certainly criticise another man for thinking that he deserves something tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:22 PM
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Do you think that is the fault of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:17 PM
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We solve any and all issues you have tomorrow by merely making it illegal for men and women to work or even live together. Women make up what they view as "problems" in their head and then try to use those problems to get victim points. It boils down to power.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:12 PM
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The fact that feminists entirely focus on the absolute top 0.1% of jobs is telling me everything I need to know about their true agenda. Women absolutely love hierarchies when they are the ones that determine who fits in where. Give any of these women power and they will run wild with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:10 PM
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But what’s your solution? You can’t just prohibit men from founding new businesses. Don't give these feminists any ideas. There was one podcast where the two female hosts were cackling while suggesting that all men should start their lives in prison and "earn" their way out when a woman says so. Women should just found more businesses if they want more female business owners. Most women are literally incapable of doing that. They want all of the benefits of being an executive without any of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:59 PM
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OP was so close.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:55 PM
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As for "chad treatment", as you've described it to mean enthusiasm and early "sexual access", no one deserves that. Women seem to think that they are entitled to attention and sex with chad. I've never seen anyone crash out harder than a woman who was rejected by a guy that she made advances toward.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:54 PM
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Not only are they attracted to them and obsessively look for those men, they try to gaslight the rest of the men by telling them shit like "the bar is in hell", "i'd choose the bear", etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:42 PM
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The problem is that women think someone is an asshole for merely disagreeing with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:40 PM
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You're either arguing in bad faith or blatantly lying, because I guarantee that you know that many women filter out men based on their immutable characteristics (e.g. height). You're catching on to the feminists/blue pillers in this sub. They aren't here to actually debate, they just want to pretend that they got to "dunk" on some red pillers and then pat themselves on the back.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:15 PM
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Incel tears is a great sub showing examples of these but here’s some more Feminists on this sub think linking to some hate group sub counts as a source. Get real. And no, there are literally no woman’s groups trying to do the same And you are a bold faced liar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Silverman. Women have this knack for creating a delusion in their head and then pretending that said delusion is reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:59 PM
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I see this as an extra reason for women to be more cautious or picky with who they choose to date or sleep with. Because if they chose wrong, the man might not actually stop when she tells him no, or try to gaslight her into continuing anyway. I agree with you, women absolutely need to vet men they decide to sleep with better instead of opening their legs for every hot guy thats willing to fuck them. Also, while I get the "not all men" viewpoint I doubt that, considering everything you posted af…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:57 PM
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Having shallow sexual preferences and not being held accountable for them certainly is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:55 PM
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That is not the same thing that you postulated. Admitting that women are initially shallow goes against decades of feminism, so you try to boil it down to some meaningless anecdotal "would you call a woman ugly to her face" scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:00 AM
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Sexual peak for women is between 18-24, that is when pregnancy is considered most successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:42 AM
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It’s hard to avoid when mens groups are actively trying to restrict womens freedoms and rights to make women more suitable for them Please, point them out. There are far more womens' groups that are doing exactly that to men, but of course that doesn't give women precious victim points so you lie and pretend that it's true when it really isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:40 AM
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We have all seen it on this platform being said by some men. There’s a certain percentage of men that literally reject natural aging in the opposite sex lmao it’s fucking psychotic imo But women rejecting the vast majority of the male population for things outside of their control is a-ok, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:26 AM
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That's what is known as a "character flaw". Women will only ever do what benefits themselves the most in any given situation, even to the detriment of everyone else around them (including other women).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:25 AM
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Anything from painful sex to physical violence to being stalked afterwards. Putting painful sex in the same category as domestic abuse is insane. If sex hurts and you don't tell him to stop, that's on you. Also, the percentage of men that actually commit assault or stalk someone is such a small percentage of men as a whole that it might as well be statistically irrelevant. Somehow, the majority of women keep choosing these abusive men to spend time around. Funny how that works...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:12 AM
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No but that is what you assumed for some reason. If that is what I meant that is what i wouldve said. Maybe you wanted an easy target. Women see it as some sort of gotcha argument. They don't realize that the actual solution is far more grim.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:08 AM
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The post is subtly directed at men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:00 AM
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Is attraction a choice for you personally? Can you make yourself attracted to someone you are not attracted to through concious choice? If by "attracted", you mean "would you fuck them", then no. Do you think attraction is a choice for women? No. If yes, what do you think a woman should do to make herself attracted to more men / men she is not naturally attracted to? Women who already think that way are too far gone, there is nothing that can help them. Exposure to instagram, tiktok, tinder, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:24 PM
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Women are more likely to be open a warm approach than a cold approach. As long as the man is in the top 20% in terms of looks, he could approach her in a dark alley while covered in blood and she would still be receptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:31 PM
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"The men I'm interested should stop exercising their options by pursuing other women and narrow their tastes down to just me" It's very predictable. Women give advice that benefits themselves, not the person who is receiving said advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:26 PM
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This is exactly what women want. They want men to have absolutely no standards so that women as a whole can walk all over them. Remember this, any advice a woman gives is meant to benefit herself and not the person receiving the advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:24 PM
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It does not matter if women are constantly pregnant But it literally does. Most women will not carry a pregnancy to term more than twice in their lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:08 PM
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I don't know any woman who thinks that. Never met a woman who thinks that either. Cool, your anecdote is meaningless. You mean, the people in happy and healthy relationships? Lol. No, most blue pill men are miserable cucks. Women are feminist by default, so I don't really care what they think about the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:43 PM
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Cool. Idk what a "feminist sub" is and don't frequent the place. Women will just pretend that they don't know/understand things when it doesn't suit their bias and agenda and then act like those things don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:41 PM
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I would hope that parents teach their kids proper hygiene. I used to work as a janitor when I was in college. Womens' bathrooms were always far more disgusting than mens' bathrooms. Tampons and pads laid on the floor next to the toilet, splatter from women trying to "hover", dried blood on everything. Gross. I don't know any parent or relatives who tell men, "the girls are going to really be all over you later in life". Yet women think that all she has to do is wait for a rich, handsome prince c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:37 PM
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Exactly. It's just a big circle jerk of losers keeping themselves bitter and angry. One look into the typical feminist sub shows that women do this far more often than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:34 PM
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Projection: The Post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:33 PM
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I do find that women (straight women) often give the worst advice when it comes to dating women Women give advice that benefits themselves, not the person they are giving advice to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:32 PM
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Women beg men to participate with their own children so I dont know what youre on about tbh The type of women who do that most certainly fucked a dark triad, hot guy way out of their league and still expected him to stick around. Women need to work on keeping their legs shut and not fucking every Totally Hawt Guy (tm) as soon as they meet him, or else they run the risk of becoming a single mother from a dead beat. No sympathy from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:30 PM
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Johnny Depp did rape her. Please, post proof of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:01 PM
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Other than ad hominem attacks, do you have any sort of counter-argument for what I posted?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:57 PM
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Women like to say that Chris Bumstead has a "dad bod" during his offseason, so take it with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:59 PM
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I disagree, I think men 200 years ago would have engaged and argued with those women much more aggressively than men today will and those women had less power back then. Life was much harder back then, those men would have been focused on keeping their family and friends alive instead of bothering to argue with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:58 PM
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It's like they think we're going to agree with them just to get a chance to potentially fuck them. They don't even think about it, they absolutely take it for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:57 PM
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Of course a woman would think that, she will use it to convince herself that she has more options of "good men".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:43 PM
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This perspective is more prominent among the younger crowd, age 18-24.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:39 PM
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Feminists and blue pillers proving double standards in the comments. When a man doesn't give a relationship to a woman he had sex with, they say it's 100% his fault and he is an evil bastard. When a woman doesn't give a relationship to a man that is giving her attention and resources, it's his fault for being a sucker. If women didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:23 PM
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So for you a man is friend with a woman only to fuck her? Are women only friends with men so that they can gain access to their attention and resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:18 PM
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Leave it to a man, to tell women that carrying and birthing children is not actually that hard, even when the fucking maternal deaths rate is 22.6/100.000, which is higher then police/law enforcemebt with 11.3/100.000. Are women constantly pregnant throughout their entire lives? Most women will have less than 2 children. Meanwhile law enforcement spend 40 hours a week risking their lives. Why are blue pillers and feminists incapable of looking at data objectively?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:15 PM
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When a woman is left to struggle it kills off sexual desire faster than anything else Meanwhile that is the default state for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:11 PM
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Wanna get married? Have a party with friends and family, exchange rings, keep the state out of it. If it’s really based in love, then neither party would have an issue. Women hate this idea because they want the option of divorce so that the state can force the man to undeservedly give her a bunch of his shit. Or auto prenup. Get the terms out of the way while you still like each other. Women dislike this for the same reason I posted above. But, people won’t because they know they aren’t in it f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:10 PM
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It would be much harder for me to find a good match being a divorced mother than when I was single. The risk that my husband leaves me becomes much more serious once kids are involved. Yet most women seem to think that they should be able to sleep with and get pregnant by whoever they want and any negative consequences can just be shoved off onto the man. Women need to learn how to stop fucking every Totally Hawt Guy (tm) they come across before they've properly vetted that he isn't a dead beat …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:08 PM
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If you cant accept that your wifes priority is no longer you but literally keeping a baby alive theb please for the love of God dont ever have kids. Yet mothers still expect to be the priority of the father, even above the child. Women seem to think that pregnancy and having a baby gives them freedom to act however shitty and manipulative they want without any sort of consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:02 PM
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Actions speak louder than words. I have noticed, especially with the "Male loneliness epidemic" and "Feminism is oppressing men" types is that they want to loved for merely existing. Another projection post. Society has been telling men and women that "all women are beautiful no matter what, they don't have to change anything about themselves, it's the evil men who need to change their perspective" and other bull shit. They dont like being told they have to actually put effort into making their …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:56 PM
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I think delusional, entitled, egotistical women are much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:41 PM
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Women who are so unattractive that no man would fuck them are at the bottom 20% of SMV for women. Meanwhile, men who are so unattractive (to women) are usually within the bottom 50%. I will start caring about any issue women have regarding being lonely as soon as women start caring about men being lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:17 PM
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It's all too common on this sub. I think a lot of these feminist posters are coming up with these insane ideas in their own bubbles where no one will challenge them and anyone who does is immediately banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:53 PM
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You don't know what a double standard is (nor irony, for that matter). Ad hominem attack, typical of a feminist. But this is exactly what the men are doing. They won't commit less crimes and they certainly won't take any responsibility for it. But somehow, women are more responsible for the "unfair assumptions" than the men themselves. The percentage of men that commit violent crimes is very, very small. You can't generalize all men with that statistic. To top it off, women seem to keep selectin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 12:45 AM
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The answer is acceptable because the question is not worth taking seriously. According to who? Men who ask for this are demanding a sales pitch so the woman can shuck and jive for validation. You can't be serious, take one look at any woman's dating profile and you'll see a laundry list of qualities their potenital partner must have. The irony is palpable. Also, this phrase is highly indicative of the online spaces he spends time in or the company of men he keeps which is largely a community of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 12:34 AM
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Expecting me to do research to prove the point that you postulated is not how debates work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:50 PM
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Women of the Asylum: Voices from Behind the Walls A book with 26 anecdotes that can't be factually verified. I had a feeling you wouldn't be able to come up with anything substantial because what you postulated didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:40 PM
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I already stated in another comment that I want you to suggest a book that is historically factual that proves anything you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:23 PM
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Id suggest you read a book. Please, suggest a book that has provable facts that any of those things happened at the word of your average man. If you dont learn from history its just going to repeat itself. Women seem to make up history that conveniently supports their misandrist viewpoints. Funny how that works. And whats the point of going through all this shit all the time just so we repeat it again and again? Yet you want it so that women get to have the final word. That is glaring hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:22 PM
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Feminism isn't about equality, its about female superiority. Modern women have been brainwashed into thinking that they were slaves for the entirety of human history and that they are justified in any of the abhorrent, undeserved attacks they have done against men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:18 PM
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A man said a woman did something wrong? Burn her, stone her, throw her into asylums, beat her etc. Obviously she deserved it. This, right here. Women were not burned, stoned, thrown into asylums, or beaten just because a man said so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:16 PM
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And it has to. We need the two extremes to figure out the middle ground. Woman agrees with something that gives her power to the detriment of all men, more news at 11. Women are also still going through shit. And as long as we do the finger pointing and trying to virtue signal we will not figure out true equality. Thats why I say everyone is shitty. And we need to accept that. Yes it sucks that men are now also victims but it is a necessary evil to go through for actual acceptance of reality. Us…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:06 PM
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Before mens words were the law. A man said a woman did something wrong? Burn her, stone her, throw her into asylums, beat her etc. Obviously she deserved it. Hyperbole, this did not happen. Right now we are in the space of men being viewed as the evil. You base womens' current treatment of men on your hyperbolistic viewpoint. It's very telling that you think society views men as "evil". Hopefully at some point we can all come together and agree that humans in general just suck and that neither g…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:03 PM
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The responsibility is on men to curtail their behavior to change the perception. The irony with this statement is hilarious. Women think that when men have issues with how women perceive them its up to the man to change himself to change that perception. When women have issues with how men perceive them, then the men are just misogynists who obviously need to change. If women didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:50 PM
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Women are incapable of looking at reality through any perspective other than their small, distorted, solipstic viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:39 PM
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I am aware he was asked a question. So you think giving factual answers to questions amounts to misogyny. If you weren’t so determined to throw a little tantrum, you would have paid attention to another comment of mine that you yourself responded to with another of your little hissy fits. You are projecting again. In that comment, I fully acknowledge that McEnroe gave a perfectly reasonable answer. But in your mind, you think that you can read his mind and assume his motivation for answering the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:30 PM
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Women enjoy freedom when society is easy, they like to pretend as if society will only ever get easier and it shows in their attitude towards men. As society becomes harder, women tend to revert back to their traditional gender roles and want the protection and comfort that comes from having a man shielding her from the brutal truths of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:56 PM
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Can you provide a counter point to anything I posted?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:00 PM
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I see that reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:47 PM
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Women are solely responsible for their bodies. Women want to have responsibility of their bodies until that responsibility has consequences and makes them feel bad, then they will try to shift the blame for that to men. There is no way around the fact that if you have unprotected sex the baby is 50% your fault. It's up to the woman to not let a man she hasn't properly vetted to have unprotected sex with her. If men were the main selectors of sex, I would say the exact same thing to them. Women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:44 PM
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So Megan Fox is average now? Celebrities are one exception to the rule. Also, the exception to the rule does not make the rule itself. If Megan Fox was not a famous actress, didn't have access to expensive plastic surgeons, and was a single mother, she would go from 9/10 to a 6-7/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:13 PM
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It is absurd to suggest that the man isn’t equally responsible for a child he creates simply because women supposedly find it easier to get sex Okay, but this isn't what my point is. Women have claimed pregnancy as something only women have sole agency over. That means that the consequences of said pregnancy lie solely with women. Once men are given the right to decline paternal responsibilities or be a part of the decision of aborting the pregnancy, then I would agree with you. Until then, wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:55 PM
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8/10 in looks without a child is an 8/10. Having children easily knocks 2-3 points off, so she is more on the level of the "average" man who doesn't have kids himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:51 PM
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Well the pool is smaller but the men who are left are of better quality. They are absolutely not. The true high-value men that all women pine after wouldn't be caught dead with a single mother, much less one that is older than 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:50 PM
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Does RP really twist the knife, though? Women consider any sort of criticism against themselves as hate and misogyny, no matter how deserved it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:39 PM
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The projection in OP post is incredibly obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:39 PM
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We all get to choose. Women want to be able to choose while denying men that same privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:34 PM
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That's why its considered misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:32 PM
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Women want the benefits of a traditional man that does traditional things for her without having to be accountable to that man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:26 PM
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You seem to be the one crashing out, considering you blasted me with like 3 replies in a row. "No u" isn't an argument. I don’t know why women’s sports gets you so upset, but if the discussion is about women’s sports and you feel the need to pop in and be like “actually women’s sports are lame and terrible! Boys rule girls drool!!” I could give a fuck less about womens' sports. Trying to put words into my mouth doesn't give your argument any credence. I don’t know why your world revolves around …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:19 PM
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dude jumps in to beep and boop about his negative opinions about women’s sports… his motivation is definitely about shitting on women. He was asked a question and gave a factual answer. Womens' inability to accept facts is not a problem of that man, or men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:16 PM
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Nobody is forcing you to watch, yet here you are obsessing about it. Projection at its finest. Nobody is forcing you to embarrass yourself by pursuing women if you think women are such worthless shit. You can always count a woman to use hyperbole and black/white thinking when it comes to an argument she doesn't have a counterpoint for. I love women who have enough respect for themselves and everyone around them to not pretend that reality isn't reality. Any woman who wants to live in a delusiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:15 PM
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That last paragraph basically read as ‘Men don’t need to take accountability’. When it comes to sex, the accountability is on women. If you don’t stick your dick in she won’t get pregnant. No amount of mental gymnastics is going to absolve men of this responsibility. If the women wouldn't let the man stick his dick in, she wouldn't get pregnant. Women want to claim sole agency over pregnancy and anything pregnancy related except when it comes to the negatives consequences of pregnancy. If women …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:14 PM
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Slut shaming is wrong because it serves no purpose except to try and make someone feel bad about YOUR preferences/beliefs, which is illogical. It’s as if you went around trying to make people feel bad for eating spinach because you thought it was gross. Meanwhile the majority of women try so hard to shame men for having any standards. When you go to the store, you buy the things you want. You don’t buy the things you don’t want Great analogy. The current dating standards that women have are like…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:56 PM
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It doesn’t work. Usually people just engage in the behaviour more. Source? If you are so concerned about women sleeping with men they don’t know and becoming single mothers, why don’t you shame your male friends for impregnating women they don’t know? Excellent question. Women are the selectors of sex, that means sex is not happening if the woman doesn't want it. With that benefit comes something known as accountability. If women don't want to be shamed for acting like a slut and becoming a sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:53 PM
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We're just afraid that some people will make an actual law about it. Actions have consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:48 PM
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God forbid a girl has a hobby. Ah, yes. Laying on your back and letting various chads use you as a fleshlight is certainly a "hobby". Is being a single mother a hobby, as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:47 PM
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Shaming isn’t a good thing. It’s not something that should be encouraged. It can be if the thing being shamed is a net negative for society as a whole. Women sleeping with tons of random men and then becoming single mothers certainly qualifies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:47 PM
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nd if you don’t-then you plausibly have an ulterior motive such as making some sort of gendered point in spite of the facts. This is the default operating state of most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:42 PM
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the disrespect is the whole fucking point.. The goal is to put those uppity women in their place. This is how women react when their delusions are criticised. No one is trying to put "uppity women in their place", they are pointing out objeective reality. If being compared to someone who is better than you causes you to crash out this hard, you should just not pay attention to sports at all. Women genuinely think reality revolves around themselves, its quite an interesting phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:42 PM
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It’s not about facts, it’s about shitting on women. Women have this weird neurotic quirk of thinking that they are the sole motivator of anything men do. Solipsism at its finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:31 PM
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and its sad Why is it sad? Because women can't claim that they are better than men at everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:25 PM
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I am from Canada, and I consider Christine Sinclair to be our greatest soccer player of all time, by far. Delusion. Your average high school boy would run circles around her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:25 PM
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This goes against the feminist delusion that women are equal to and simultaneously better than men, so they will absolutely die on that hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:23 PM
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Yes, but how else would men be able to lord themselves over women by constantly emphasizising their physical strength and then subjugate women through violence or the threat of violence? If women suddenly were stronger than men with no other changes they would do exactly this to men. If I've learned anything about men on PPD, it's that they're gracious, compassionate, humble and always do their fair share of childcare and chores. As if those are the only things to judge character by. Women are o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:23 PM
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Sports exist because they are fun to do and fun to watch, and no other reason. Womens' sports are neither of those things. Like… if women are such total losers in your view, then shouldn’t you be even more embarrassed that you want them so badly? Women just can't help themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:20 PM
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He doesn't owe her shit just because she's a woman. Women seem to think that having a vagina means that they deserve to be coddled like children for their entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:18 PM
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Once a woman becomes a single mother she loses access to the high value men that she so desires. She will pretend that the various chad-lites that fuck her once and never call back are actually relationships, but deep down she knows she is lying to herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:08 PM
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They may find dates and hookups but the prospects of marriage and stability are almost nonexistent. Women tend to see dates and hookups to be the same thing as a relationship. A single mother's life is worse in just about every statistical aspect and I think we are doing the next generation of women a disservice when we lie or gaslight them about this. I think it will get worse before it gets better. Women will have to hit rock bottom before they realize their delusions aren't sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:07 PM
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The single mother hate on this sub is insane. Single mothers tend to produce children that are criminals at much higher rates than any other situation other than an orphan, so I believe the criticism against single mothers is well deserved.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:04 PM
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So you're basically saying that high status men are the only men that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:54 AM
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What are their demands "women demand that high status men change their behavior" And are their demands heeded or ignored High status men get to decide that. Women have granted those men that exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:03 AM
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I dont know any women who needs to be the hottest or best lay or smartest, funniest, etc girl are husband is with. Men are not granted this same luxury. she just wants to be his favorite I'm not sure if this is meant to imply that the man has more than one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:02 AM
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that maybe most men and women aren't actually compatible and if you can't find the one it probably is better to just stay single You fail to understand. Red pill men have been saying that ~80% of women practice hypergamy with the top ~20% of men. The fact that your husband has slept with many women before you shows that he is considered a top 20% man. The way you gush over saying how you're perfect for eachother and what not show that you, as a woman, would only consider a top 20% man after havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:58 PM
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women aren't going to change their behavior to appeal to men they dont want anyway Yet women demand that high status men change their behavior to appeal to said women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:54 PM
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Yet women are deluded into thinking that they are owed a relationship from a high value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:26 PM
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You're trying to deflect and place the blame on men. The vast majority of women have absolutely delusional standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:54 PM
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It doesn't matter what a man does or says, women like that will just move the goal posts and say shit like "do better". Men have caught on to this and are just leaving these women be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:17 PM
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A lot of men seem to genuinely struggle with the understanding that you have to be good not just not bad and be a net positive tk be in someone’s life Funny, ask a woman what she brings to the table and she will say some egotistical shit like "I am the table". For some reason women think that the only party that needs to put effort into a relationship is the man. The fallout from that type of mentality being common among women will not be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:16 PM
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Very succinct and well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:14 PM
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Women have to take that hit to their ego and accept than most likely they are the "best that he could get" option for their partners. Women will simultaneously think they are justified in feeling this way but also think that men aren't allowed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:09 PM
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She doesn't realize that she proved the point of almost every redpiller with her anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:08 PM
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Thus by definition the only men these women would match are Dark Triad trash that will knock them up and abandon them in favor of fresh pussy or "get milk" quest. Women seem to think that men aren't allowed to have preferences and boundaries regarding this. They say shit like "body count doesn't matter" because if it did then they wouldn't feel justified in acting like whores from age 18-35.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:07 PM
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Here it is, everyone. Women see relationships as transactional, the female dating strategy in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:59 PM
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Most people (men and women) can’t fix a leaky roof and will never be in a position where they have to. Yet its almost always a man that ends up fixing it. This is so far removed from something that happens 10 times a day like changing a baby’s diaper. Changing diapers is so incredibly easy that it is mind boggling how women complain about it. Also, unlike fixing a leaky roof or being forced to sign up for selective service, women have a choice when it comes to changing diapers. They can make the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:02 PM
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Wouldn’t it be better for neither party to whine? Wouldn't be better if dogs had wheels? Women will always whine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:58 PM
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Women are willing to be alone if are replaceable and treated as not special though and that’s the difference I disagree with this. Very few women know what its like to be alone in the same way that men are alone. The reason is that women are only capable of looking at things from their own perspective. It’s better to create a life with friends and others you can enjoy. Men don’t seem to be willing to do this So we can just make shit up now, got it. Also, women aren’t trying to avoid accountabili…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:39 PM
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Women feel creeped out when an ugly man with no social skills hits on them. If he his handsome, they will refer to him as "cute", "aloof", etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:01 PM
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No, you're trying to downplay the contribution that men make because you don't want to highlight anything positive that men do. Men are forced into war, women aren't. The fact that you don't see that as a problem tells me more than enough about what kind of person you are. If women didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:41 PM
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Typical feminist trying to minimize mens' contributions to society while maximizing their own. Men have caught on to that trick, so you'll have to try something else going forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:34 PM
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Once again deflecting. If you won't answer my question then I refuse to debate with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:20 PM
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You'll be drafted no matter what. I don't say it's fair, but don't pretend you're doing it for women. Absolutely insane logic here. As long as women aren't forced to draft, I will hold that opinion above them and I am justified in doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:20 PM
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Answering my question with the same question but the genders reversed is not an acceptable answer. Now, tell me, how many women know how to change a tire, fix a leaky roof, replace a toilet, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:10 PM
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Prime example: woman loses attraction for her dude, needs a reason for it. He’s not “emotion intelligent enough” comes along. Women consistently prove again and again that they generally are not good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:09 PM
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they want to seems so sacrificing etc. Men are actually sacrificing for women, what with the draft and all. It's only from a female perspective that you can say it seems like they are sacrificing, because women care more about seeming like something for optics and virtue signaling instead of actually being that thing. Not only do men sacrifice, but they tend to do it in silence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:08 PM
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he got praised by his gran for knowing how to change a nappy, of course he should know how to change his babies nappies. How many women know how to change a tire or fix a leaky roof?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:04 PM
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Don’t get worked up about sexist generalisations that people make online. Women have been doing this to great effect for the last 20 years. Men need to start doing it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:03 PM
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Women love doing exactly that for that exact reason. They can arbitrarily decide the terms and parameters based on whatever benefits themselves the most in any given situation without any way to fact check.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:00 PM
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They'll just treat you with indifference. They won't put in any effort. They're very capable, just not for you. This is how the majority of women treat the men they are in "relationships" with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:58 PM
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You think men are like women and they sacrifice what they want because "lack of options" but i don't think so. This is unironically the best take I have seen a woman post on this sub. Bravo, I am impressed. No need to quote the rest, I agree with everything you have said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:56 PM
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There are a lot of comments arguing that men’s standards are more “realistic” than women’s. The claim is that men are happy with a normal, decent partner, while women are chasing a perfect one. This is correct. From a male perspective, this gets framed as reasonable and grounded. From a female perspective, it’s deeply unsettling. Of course it is unsettling to women, they really don't like having the figurative personality mirror held up so they can see what they really are. Women are not afraid …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:54 PM
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Men know exactly what they want. The problem is that women are doing everything in their power to prevent that while also expecting men to support them in getting whatever women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:41 PM
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Really, the source of this disparity is the fact that modern people view marriage as an individual choice. Most modern women view marriage as a ticket to retirement via divorce. I imagine that in the future, marriage will return to being viewed as an essential social institution that must be preserved and encouraged at all costs. Women really won't like the reason why this would happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:39 PM
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Figuratively speaking, women complaining about men not being good enough is like a fat guy complaining that he has to eat regular food instead of caviar all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:37 PM
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Despite men saying they want the good little church girl, they don't. You don't know what men want. They pass us over for the baddies they also slut shame and generally shit on. Or, perhaps, those baddies are nice people to be around. I suggest some introspection on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:36 PM
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Are you projecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:10 AM
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As soon as you post a source for what you posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:50 AM
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This is what I just don’t understand. If I approach a woman, how is the shame mine? Most women see men that they deem unattractive as literal subhumans. They think its insulting that the man would even dare to think that she would be receptive which explains their response. They also get victim points from other women because "that totally creepy guy hit on me, woe is me".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:17 AM
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Meanwhile female teachers are raping their students at unprecedented levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:15 AM
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In my experience a swift rejection is better than no rejection at all. Or the woman shames the man and then goes to her group chat to tell all of her friends how this totally creepy guy hit on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:42 PM
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That comes after rules 1 and 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:01 PM
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I'm just saying, dropping down an age group, a social class, or go where things are valued different. These things aren't similar. It is objectively harder to sleep with an early 20's woman than it is a woman in her 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:47 PM
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They are free to give life advice as much as they want, it's up to you whether or not you listen to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:42 PM
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God forbid you treat the woman that gives a crap about you well instead of your little bitter tricks and games? Red pill is about being realistic about whats possible, something most modern women seem to be unable to grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:41 PM
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What status? I see zero status in this man. Being able to have sex with women in their early 20's as a man above 30 indicates status, regardless of your opinion on the matter. Ah yes, the male definition of romantic success = casual sex with multiple hot women. Yes, that is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:40 PM
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Please elaborate on what is sad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:38 PM
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You have to follow the rules, which are as follows: Be attractive Don't be unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:06 PM
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So people should stop complaining about power imbalances and just double down on using them to their advantage? This is unironically how most women view the world, especially feminists. They don't care about objective reality, they will say and do whatever gives them the most benefit in any situation regardless of how it affects everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:04 PM
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This society has methodically removed every single barrier and obstacle that held women back from becoming the worst versions of themselves. Not only this, but they have also turned any attempt by men to improve themselves into a taboo backed by the courts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:01 PM
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But there seems to be a need for many women to believe that women are on a whole nother level. They are simultaneously better than men in all aspects, but also victims of those same men. I've hear it referred to as "Schrodinger's feminist", a woman will determine whether she is a boss babe or a victim depending on what benefits herself the most in any given situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:10 PM
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Women will glady dump any and all delusional standards they think they have if the guy is top 20% in terms of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:03 PM
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Why do women thing every women should be believed without proof? Women want things that give themselves more power, more news at 11. Why is it not normal to think people are good till its proven there not. Women implying that all men are bad means that they think all men will do bad people things to them which gives them victim points which gives them more social power.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:02 PM
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Blaming and generalizing all women for the behavior of a minority is not benevolent sexism Women do exactly this and see no problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:58 PM
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while women will not fuck men who blame women Women fuck men who are at least top 20% in terms of looks. Have you seen the tinder experiments where the guy pretends to be an actual rapist, but the women don't care because he looks like a model?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:58 PM
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Nobody would empathize or sympathize with them if they put it that way. Nobody does this regardless of how its worded.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:25 PM
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Not likely, considering women are rarely (if ever) lonely in the same way that men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:08 PM
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Women on this sub assume that all men are violent rapists who are desperately trying to hurt all women at all times. The delusion is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:35 PM
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It's only a good thing if you're in the top 20% of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:11 PM
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Comparing approaching in person and sending someone a DM on social media is like comparing apples to oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:10 PM
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We never fucking liked being approached by men when shopping or running errands. Correction, women never "fucking liked" being approached by unattractive men. Women will drop their panties for a literal nazi rapist if he is "totally hawt enough (tm)".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:07 PM
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Men not approaching the women they find attractive creates a caste system that only benefits the most attractive men and women lose out because women still expect men to initiate. Women have had all reigns of hypergamy removed and within half a century have already created an SMV caste system. If you only allow men to approach at certain times or places you limit your options to the most attractive men where you're ceiling is fwbs or side chick. Women don't care about anyone but themselves. As l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:05 PM
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Women who don't have children will fail to pass their genes on, which means over time that their ideology and lifestyle will disappear. It can't happen fast enough, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:59 PM
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Women like to pretend to be victims of society because they get lots of attention and pats on the back. When men are victims of society, women just say "its your fault, get over it". If women didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:56 PM
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This opens up a can of worms I don't think you wanted to open up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:54 PM
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It’s men who are trying to complete with women to be the woman in the relationship. Quite the opposite, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:56 PM
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If you don’t find the women you spend time with entertaining that is a personal problem. Yet you think it's a man's problem when women don't find him entertaining. If women didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:44 PM
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Well said. This also goes for many of the "men" on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:37 PM
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so stop expecting women to think and act like men especially when it comes to dating and sex. As soon as women stop expecting men to think and act like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:11 PM
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Women here will happily lie to men if it gives them a leg up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:02 PM
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Things are much easier for women than they are for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:01 PM
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If women here keep telling you the same thing then why do you keep making posts about it? The men here keep telling women the same thing, yet the women just stick their fingers in their ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:29 PM
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The irony is palpable, the women on this sub won't even understand what you are doing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:28 PM
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I'm glad you said that, because women on this sub like to say that it's always a man's fault when he leaves a relationship, no matter the circumstances. Regardless, if women weren't rewarded for divorce like they are now the rate would plummet significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 02:07 PM
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Do you understand the word rate? I suggest you also learn what the term "per capita" means, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 08:22 PM
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Happy holidays, everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 03:22 PM
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Because I'd imagine the vast majority of cases it's just the dude running out and not wanting to deal with the kid. Your imagination would be incorrect, women initiate divorce between 70-90% of the time. Women justify this by saying "she probably left because the man was just too insufferable to be around", yet try to deny men the same privilege. "He left because he's a deadbeat loser who can't man up!" is a rhetoric many feminists/women like to spew because in their minds anything a woman does …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 02:05 PM
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Selecting a deadbeat is, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 01:51 PM
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Everyone knows tha feminists/blue pillers only exist to serve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 12:48 PM
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But if you cut off those resources, what happens to the kids? They didn’t do anything wrong. That is a completely different argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:00 PM
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“Rewarding becoming a single mother” so would you like for children to starve if they committed the sin of being born to a single mother? Are you implying children are bound to starve if they are born to a single mother? That says more about the average single mother than it does about the shitty men that they pick to blow a wad in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 10:40 PM
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So what should single mothers do? Abandon their children? You can't change what it already done. Women have already traded in husbands for the state, thats why the divorce rate is so high. Remove welfare programs that reward women for becoming single mothers and watch the rate plummet. Also, what about the father? Does an absent father just have no responsibility for the child becoming a criminal? Correct. The resonsibility lies with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 10:29 PM
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It's quite the opposite. Men who show that they are caring and empathetic around women are made fun of for being "nice guys".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 09:45 PM
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Men and women are designed to complement eachother. Feminists have been fighting tooth and nail for over a hundred years to remove mens' ability to complement women while removing agency from women. It's doomed to fail at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 09:40 PM
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But then again, how do we assign blame accurately? We can’t blame the single moms - the odds of becoming a criminal if you have no present parents is much higher. This is a logical fallacy. The percentage of the population with no parents is such a small minority that it is statistically insiginificant. You're just trying to divert attention from the fact that children raised by single mothers, which is about 25%, tend to be over represented in criminal statistics. It’s also not a guarantee that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 08:59 PM
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Which the majority of are single mother households.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 08:38 PM
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It not only glorifies extreme hedonism but the women are encouraged to have sex and make kids with the most degenerate and dangerous dregs of society who inevitably leave her to raise a child on her own. I think this is less about any singular race and more about first world culture in general. Children of all races are being taught those things, but I do understand and resonate with the struggle that many African Americans face. Your next point really shows the source of the problem: That child…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 08:38 PM
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The people doing these studies aren't dumb, they have controlled for those complex variables. It is a documented fact that children raised in single mother households have a higher rate of becoming criminals than children raised in single father or two parent households.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 08:30 PM
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Single moms household definitely produce more criminals than 2 parents households or single dad households. But what percentage of kids from single moms households become criminals, a very relatively small amount. Agreed. However that doesn't mean that the majority of kids from single mom homes become criminals. So chances are that single moms won't produce criminals. Now this is where the logic starts to falter. Single mothers produce up to 41% of criminals. When you factor in per capita, with …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 08:25 PM
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what good would that do society to have more disenfranchised people, when studies show just how many criminals come from impoverished backgrounds? Enabling those people to continue creating criminals is a net negative on society. In order to solve a problem, you have to stop it at the root cause. In this case, there is statistical signifance in children of single mothers become career criminals at a rate significantly higher than single father or two parent homes. When you factor in that the vas…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 08:10 PM
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I said Why should women give sex for free.to men when escorts charge. Because sex is a normal part of relationships that normal people do with eachother because they like eachother. If you fail to understand that, you need to educate yourself before trying to debate. Men are demonstrating sex is transactional. The only person demonstrating that here is you. The same can be said about OF (of which men make up 90% of the customer base). What does this have to do with anything? You can make the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 07:02 PM
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If most women weren't hellbent on weaponizing their children against the fathers, I might agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:58 PM
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You demand women give men free sex.. delusional entitled men at its finest. Take accountability and man up, you dont get to demand sex from women. I never made a demand of anyone. You said that you would sell your body to men, that is solely a you problem. Take accountability and man up, you dont get to demand sex from women. Anyone can demand anything they want from anyone else at any time. That doesn't mean that the person is entitled to it. You're just creating a strawman in your head and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:41 PM
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It is a bad thing because it causes children to be raised by single mothers which disproportionately causes them to become criminals. The root cause of this is women's poor selection of mates. If women stopped selecting violent deadbeats to father their children, the problem will cease to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:04 PM
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Because most modern societies favor the wellbeing of children because they are the future and more poverty only worsens the situation. It's a given a mother in need gets the most help. So a mother should not be held accountable for the bad decisions she made in regards to her mate, we should just throw more money at them (so they can continue to make bad decisions in regards to their mates). I think the safety net for single mothers needs to be taken away so that they learn not to spread their l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:03 PM
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Meaningless. Women receive the vast majority of government assistance, full stop. You're just trying to move goalposts because you're not here to debate in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:57 PM
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It's a fact because women just aren't as capable of being a good parent as men are. You really thought you ate there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:56 PM
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So? You'll conveniently ignore a point when it doesn't suit your flawed logic, got it. Don't get mad when it get thrown right back at you. Of course the redpill thinks women should stay with a man, even if he beats, rapes, cheats, gambles, manipulates, neglects/harms the kids, or wastes their money on drugs. No, the redpill thinks women need to vet these men before those said women put them in a position to do those things to them. Women have a tendency for choosing violent men, that is a proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:55 PM
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Just because you’re a mom who happens to be single, doesn’t mean you’re a single mother. But then they don't get the victim points.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:52 PM
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"Men can never do anything bad to strain the relationship. Not even when statistics keep showing they have more affairs than women." Perhaps those men are leaving because the mother is so insufferable to be around that they just can't take it anymore. Women give the benefit of the doubt to themselves, but not men. It is 100% hypocritical on womens' part. "But everything is still 99.9999% of women's fault." Drop the hyperbole. Women have collectively decided that the onus of pregnancy lies solely…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:50 PM
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If women weren't rewarded with cash and prizes in divorce the rate would plummet signifcantly and immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:47 PM
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Criminality in offspring in single father households are closer to two-parent households than they are to single mothers, if that gives you any indication on who tends to be the better parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:47 PM
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I didn’t think I had to mention that single mother are more likely to be in impoverished areas How is this the fault of men? Hint: It's not. If women don't want to become poor single mothers, then they need to tell the deadbeat bad boys that they keep fucking that they have to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:46 PM
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Bad parenting. Which is done by the single mother. Awful people typically can't keep a relationship and make awful parents. Yes, women are awful. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:39 PM
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Meanwhile women have made a multi-billion dollar industry bitching about men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:38 PM
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Single moms have been basically blamed for creating criminals. As they should be. Most breakups/divorces are initiated by women, so it's like women are shootings themselves in the foot and then trying to claim that men pulled the trigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:38 PM
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It’s also still fair to say that single moms are demonized while the uninvolved dads are forgotten. Women initiate breakups and divorce at a much higher rate than men do, so in the majority of cases its the woman's own fault that she is a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:36 PM
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So you're admitting that you didn't post this in order to have a good faith debate, you just wanted to prove your own bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:35 PM
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but this sub wants me to spoon-feed them the information because they care more about their bias than facts. Yes, that's the point of a debate. You proposed the idea therefore you are responsible for backing up your own point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:34 PM
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So if I seek out sex from a man, and he agrees but then abandons me, it's his fault for agreeing to the sex, right? You have it wrong. If you we're seeking sex from men, convinced a man to agree with you and have sex with you, then you decided after the fact that you wanted to leave it would be the man's fault for not properly vetting you. I don't know what is so hard to understand about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:31 PM
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but men have choices too and can choose, chastity, monogamy, or not to take risks with fathering a child or STDs. So you're saying that women have no agency when it comes to these things, yet at the same time women are the only gender who should have a say in anything pregnancy related. If women didn't have hypocritical double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:29 PM
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Not quite, but we are getting there. Unfortunately, it is the fault of feminism. As long as feminism exists, society will continue to crumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:24 PM
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Spouses are not legally responsible for the bad behavior of their partner. Going by this logic, men are not responsible for the bad behavior (see: choices) that women make when selecting their partner. There is a very easy solution to this problem, all women have to do is stop sleeping with every Totally Hawt Guy (tm) that they come across at the first possible opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:22 PM
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Can any woman here have a debate without resorting to ad hominem attacks?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:19 PM
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Your perspective is why laws were created, to protect the rest of society from people like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:17 PM
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Yes, she is. She will play contrarian to any point that any man makes regardless of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:54 PM
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Women consider any man that doesn't meet their absolutely delusional standards as a "loser" so don't get mad at those same men when they don't give a fuck about those same women and, by extension, any problems those women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:51 PM
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I want to insult you because i'm defending myself No one insulted you. As DrunkOnRamen said, that user was being empathetic towards women and you turned around and insulted him. Those who live in a glass house should not cast the first stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:37 PM
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Articulate this in a way that makes sense, then I will respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:28 PM
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Woman: attacks man, Man: defends himself, Woman: "How could you do this you evil man?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:14 PM
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In case there will be someone who denies undeniable truth that men demand empathy: they constantly complain about their struggles and demand for women to soothe their rage, to pity and be empathetic. It's the other way around. I have a feeling this post is just one big projection. All women have men in their life who told one or more sob story to get something out of her. There are always pressure to be morally right, to give chance because someone is "nice", compromise their standards. Women su…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:11 PM
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The responsibility is literally and legally on both of them. Correct, yet somehow women try to put the blame solely on men. And, sorry, women do not "tend" to be bad at judging character any more than men and in either case, it is not the fault of the other gender whether a partner is a bad judge of character but it IS the fault of either or both if they create a child they did not want. This would make sense if men and women had the same roles socially and biologically, but they don't. You cann…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:57 PM
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Are you saying men have no agency to choose who they sleep with? The only men who have agency to choose who they sleep with are top 1% in terms of attractiveness and status. Meanwhile, ~80% of women get to choose who they sleep with. Biology has determined that women choose who gets to fuck them and men get to choose who gets access to their resources, this is an untenable fact. Anyone who attempts to argue against that is blind to reality and most certainly has been living in a delusional bubbl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:36 PM
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Throw in ad hominem attacks as well. Every feminist I have debated on this sub eventually resorts to insulting me as a person when they run out of steam.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:30 PM
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They have weaponized victimhood. They are simulataneously empowered boss babes who are better than men in every way, but also poor little victims of those very same men that they claim to be better than. Schrodinger's feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:29 PM
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The responsibility is actually on the person who does bad things. Please elaborate on how you came to this twisted conclusion. Women are the selectors for who gets to have sex, therefore the onus is on them to make sure they pick a good guy to have children with. Are you saying that women shouldn't be allowed agency to choose who they sleep with?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:25 PM
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Women will say and do whatever benefits themselves the most in any given situation, even if they don't actually believe in what they are saying or doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:23 PM
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Women decide who gets to blow a wad in them to create that child. It's not mens' fault that women tend to be bad at judging character of the guys they decide to fuck. The only way to fix it is for women to not give it up so easy to every Totally Hawt Guy (tm) that they come across. Make him wait to ascertain whether or not he's a deadbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:18 PM
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I see what you're doing and I agree with it, but I have a feeling the irony will be lost on the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:16 PM
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Women want to take credit for all of the good things that come with having children while blaming all of the negatives on men, just like everything else they complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:15 PM
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Do you have anything other than pointless snark to contribute? I have seen only one or two women on this sub who can actually debate in good faith instead of resorting to grade school insults. It shows the average maturity level of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:47 PM
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So, you're saying that you want to sell your body and it's somehow the fault of men. Get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:46 PM
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What point are you trying to prove? That men don't have their heads in the clouds when it comes to dating standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:45 PM
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Absolutely insane logic. Are you saying women should sell themselves as if they are likened to a commodity? I think everyone is free to do whatever they like, that is a basic human right, but no one is entitled to the attention from the opposite sex under any circumstances. If I could give one piece of advice to women in regards to relationships, I would say "make him wait". You will filter a lot of these so-called deadbeat men that women complain about day in and day out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:32 AM
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You have to learn to recognize when people are trying to rage bait you. There are a few posters here who are obviously trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:09 AM
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I was banned for 3 days for saying "that doesn't make you look bitter at all". I see that exact same person directly calling people bitter, no apparent ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:01 AM
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The few threads I've submitted took a full day before anyone started replying to them. I think the mods are trying to prevent people from spamming the sub, which I am 100% for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:00 AM
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Its just women picking whatever they think will give them the most benefit at any given moment. Many have referred to it as "Schrodinger's Feminist".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:56 PM
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Women will try to abuse power that they don't even have themselves. Just look at women that marry high-ranking military men, politicians, celebrities, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:48 PM
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I'll take your ad hominem response as your concession to this debate. Have a nice day!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:56 PM
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The choose better argument is nonsensical. How does one preemptively know wha another person is going to do? Purposely ignoring my point. You vet someone by spending time around them. You might have a point if being a deadbeat loser was rare but considering how common it is among men It is rare, because when women say "men" they really mean the top 20% of guys they have deemed attractive enough to be worthy of sex. 20% of men getting attention from 80% of women... those men are going to have opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:40 PM
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Feminists will try to frame this as a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:13 PM
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Because those men have something to offer the women who chose to sleep with them - probably very good in bed and give them multiple orgasms. Women will just pretend that the previous conversation didn't happen. The men in question are top 20% men, you didn't refute my point at all. In fact, you've only made my point stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:10 PM
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They will see that as some sort of "gotcha" moment implying that men are big dummies who can't even make a woman (tm) have an orgasm. What it actually shows is that women are just impossible to please regardless of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:02 PM
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These women will gaslight you in an attempt to win an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:01 PM
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Damn, that sounds shitty. I wonder why men are so obsessed with something that provides them with such a short duration of pleasure. Why do women continually date the same top 20% of deadbeat men which they complain about to anyone who will listen, only to end up in their bed later that same day?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:58 PM
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Men are so desperate to be chosen that they think women care that certain men don’t want her. Yet those same women seethe that men are misogynists for not wanting her. Women are only looking for one man that meets their qualifications for a relationship…not 50. No man alive can meet all of the qualifications that women have set. That's why women jump from guy to guy, each one having something that the previous one did not. Eventually it will come full circle. Women want quality partners and men …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:48 PM
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They are unable to look at any scenario without inserting themselves into the center of it. A man says he likes women with blue hair, the green haired women will screech and seethe. A man says most women are 5'4, the woman will say "but I am 5'6". Look up the word solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:44 PM
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If men raised their standards to be as delusional as womens', society would literally collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:40 PM
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No, what op is saying is that men have standards but say they don't. Women enjoy making things up and then acting as if they are based on fact and reality. Men aren't saying that men don't have standards, full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:40 PM
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~15% of men are taller than 6 feet. That 15% doesn't filter based on looks, finances, or personality. Lets say that 1/3 of those men are good looking. Now of that 1/3, only 1/3 of them have a good job or a lot of money. Now, of that 1/3... you see where I am going. Meanwhile, all a woman has to do is not be fat and not be bitchy. Now, tell me who's standards are crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:37 PM
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And fit in shape women like me do not have to even consider your type HUMAN. Finally, a woman admits what men have been saying for decades. Remember, guys, these women don't see you as human because you don't fall in line with their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:35 PM
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My point was that men HAVE standards unlike they claim. Once again, no one has claimed that men don't have standards. You've created this strawman in your head and are acting as if everyone replying to you believes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:25 PM
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It's very telling that she sees "average" as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:20 PM
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How does that excuse men lying that they don't have any? Did you think this up in the shower or something? No one has said that men don't have standards. What men do have are reasonable standards, something a lot of modern women seem to lack.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:19 PM
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...but acting like women's standards are some super low bar that any guy can meet with ease when it's actually a very high bar in current society is disingenuous. It makes a lot of sense once you look at things from the perspective of these women. They see only the top 20% of men as actual people, so when they say "all men" or just men in general, they are exclusively referring to the top 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:11 PM
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It is their right to have those preferences, regardless of how delusional they may be. It is not their right to shame every man that fails to reach those delusional standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:09 PM
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Whenever a woman is talking about men, it is best to remember that she is only talking about the top 20% of men in terms of attractiveness. The bottom 80% are just background noise for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:07 PM
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The problem is that women filter men based on superficial characteristics much more and much harder than men do. If a man isn't at least 6 feet tall, has a luscious head of hair that would make Fabio jealous, and has top 20% facial genetics then he is cast into the other category. There is no version of that for women. All women have to do is not be fat and not be bitchy, men take care of the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:06 PM
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Go away, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:41 PM
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It doesn't matter what they think. Anything a man posts will elicit a contrarian opinion from the radfems on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:23 PM
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What’s the point of this post if you don’t care to actually engage with people? The OP is just another misandrist troll, ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:21 PM
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I have a feeling that account is just a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:19 PM
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If men need all of this to work hard and not abandon their children. Perhaps women should choose better men who don't do those things. doesn’t this just show men are at their core not good people It proves the opposite. Why would doing all of this be better than OPS suggestion for women to just leave men alone at large? I don't think women have the self control to stop fucking chads. Women don’t gain anything in the society you outlined above which is why we fought to free ourselves from said so…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:03 PM
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You're not here to debate, you're just here to push your misandrist thoughts onto unwilling victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:41 PM
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And I don't view orgasms as emotionally connecting. This is what happens when your ability to pair bond is gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:24 PM
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Yes because we all know these men lie, manipulative, use every god damn trick and tool in the books. The men that you expose yourself to do those things. Most men are caring individuals, but that gives women the "ick" so women pretend they don't exist. Yall pay men to give yall advice on to take advantage of women the most sufficiently way possibly. Women do this with eachother as a default. Fuck outta here. Screaming at people you are trying to convince of something will certainly work out in y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:22 PM
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Most girls aren’t into high n men Yes, they are. High n men are high n because they are desired by the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:12 PM
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High n woman hang out with high n men. High and low n women hang out with high n men. That's why those men are high n in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:10 PM
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You're trying to apply logic to someone who is incapable of using it. It's just like the meme: Man: "Most women are 5'4" Woman: "But I'm 5'6"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:03 PM
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What is your definition of bodily autonomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:58 PM
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white people murder white people at a higher rate than black people murder white people. Please post your source for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:41 PM
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The entire point of your post was to ragebait, so I point that out, and now you're acting like it was some sort of "gotcha moment". I hope you can find peace within yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:36 PM
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You're very obviously trying to frame it as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:30 PM
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Some 30+ DiCaprios here insisting that they don't take seriously any woman past the age of 25, and that they only want to fuck 18-23. What a nice way to frame your question, starting off by insulting the very people you want answers from. Past what age you don't take any woman seriously and how old are you compared to them? The wall is undefeated. I would say age 30. My age is not a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:25 PM
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The average American woman is 40, 5’4” and 170 lbs. Do you really think men are not also pursuing above average partners? Most men aren't pursuing at all because they understand that this hypothetical average american woman thinks that she deserves a man far out of her own league and will actively shame men who don't meet said unrealistic standard. You're trying so hard to frame the decisions men make from a feminine mindset when it just isn't possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:17 PM
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I’m not trying to suppress anyone. You're trying to suppress conservative men and the women that would generally sleep with them. Just because conservatives want to control who marries who and who has sex with who doesn’t mean the rest of us do. Please post a source for this. Encouraging people to CHOOSE a certain way isn’t repressing sexuality. Telling people they can’t be gay is. Absolute pottery. Encouraging women not to sleep with conservative men isn’t suppression. It’s actually freedom of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:13 PM
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She won't be able to name any of them, except maybe for abortion. It's all about feelz with these types.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:10 PM
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This post screams projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:05 PM
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Such is the plight of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:57 PM
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I got a 3 day ban for saying someone seemed bitter, then I see that exact same person calling someone else bitter and not getting banned for it. The hypocrisy is sublime.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:57 PM
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...but I have been noticing a recent trend on social media of women promoting abstinence and telling other women that casual sex is bad They do that because they think they are getting back at men by restricting access to their holes. The problem is that womens' definition of "men" only includes the top 20% that they actually see as people. They don't realize, or care, that not giving their vaginas up to chad at every possible opportunity benefits the bottom 80% of men that they pretend don't ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:55 PM
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The vast majority of complaints women have about men boil down to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:44 PM
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And for men like me who aren't attractive enough for the vast majority of women anyway, there's no incentive to change. When women talk about men, they aren't referring to guys like this. Guys who are deemed unattractive are literally invisible to them, just part of the background scenery. When women talk about men, they are only referring to the top 20% of men that they consider attractive enough to be deemed actual people. Like, women really think that threatening to have less than zero dates …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:42 PM
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Only for other women to post pictures of dating the same guy at the same time showing that the obvious problem in this equation is just men. It's somehow men's fault that women keep choosing the same deadbeat men, suuuuuure. We cant force men to be presents father's. We cant force men to be loyal partners. We cant force men to be anything really. Precisely, which is why women need to do better and properly vet the men they sleep with. Men want sex and women want commitment. The only sensible thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:39 PM
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That's all these feminists are capable of. It's actually quite easy to predict how they will react to statement based on how it is phrased. Does it help men in any way? They will play contrarian. Does it hurt men in any way? They will double down on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:00 PM
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You don't and she will forever compare you to the first few men she slept with while she was still capable of pair bonding. That's one of the big reasons why high N-count women aren't worth dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:58 PM
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I agree with you. I had a girlfriend in college that told me tons of women were hitting on me right in front of her, but I had no idea. I thought they were just being friendly. That opened my eyes a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:01 PM
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Correction, answering a pointless question with a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:42 PM
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should men NOT take care of their kids? Should women NOT fight beasts?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:00 PM
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Please elaborate on how men are supposedly victimizing women, because last I checked women tend to get away with a lot more than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:51 PM
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The data doesn't lie: https://www.unh.edu/unhtoday/news/release/2025/09/15/study-shows-number-childless-women-us-continues-rise
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:46 PM
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It’s not like the men were fighting beasts while the women were scrolling Tik-Tok (or some other meaningless task). The men were fighting beasts while the women were taking care of children. Nowadays, men are expected to do both of those things by women, while women get to sit around and do nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:38 PM
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If there's one thing red pill and blue pill can agree on, it's that AI is ruining debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:28 PM
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You want to participate in a debate sub, but you don't actually want to debate. Absolute pottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:27 PM
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Recently, we started actually genetically sexing the skeletons, and found that many of those warrior, hunter, and builder skeletons were female. The idea that most women didn't fight, hunt, or build is a comparatively very recent trend of our history. Please post a source for these claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:26 PM
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Women do not have to lower their expectations. Correct, nature has a way of dealing with this. Women expectations to high --> woman doesn't have children --> delusional genetics cease to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:25 PM
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Holding someone accountable for the poor choices they make is not oppression, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:17 PM
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The em dashes give it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:15 PM
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You didn't answer his question and tried to move the goalposts instead. If women didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:15 PM
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Women have replaced husbands with the state. This will most assuredly not backfire on them...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:14 PM
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notice how 100% of the posts about age gap are made by MEN Self awareness is at an all-time low.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:00 PM
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But the moment I discovered that, I already knew she'll never be my gf. Women just don't understand this. A man will sleep with a woman he never intends to date, just like a woman will let a man take her on dates that she never intends to sleep with. They try so hard to villainize men and absolve women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:46 PM
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Where are you getting this information? I see that reading comprehension is not your strong suit. You believe 1 in 3 fathers are raising a child they believe is theirs, but is not? Again, what data do you have to come to this conclusion? Yes, I do believe this. 30% of disputed cases show that the mother lied about who the father is. "Rates vary between studies from 0.8% to 30%" It's the same source I posted above.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:29 PM
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No, looks are the only thing keeping her around. If "feelings/love" mattered, then women wouldn't stay with these Totally Hawt Guys (tm) that treat them like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:24 PM
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Do you have a credible source?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:23 PM
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We will go by the conservative estimate that 3.1% of children aren't the children of the supposed father. If you account for 70 million fathers in the US, that means that 2.6 million women have committed paternity fraud. I believe this estimate is closer to 30%. Source: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1733152/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:22 PM
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This applies to women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:15 PM
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You have no idea what other people think is classed as good looking or not, please don’t change the subject I will assume that you think you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:14 PM
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The reason tends to be an over-inflated ego on the woman's part. 4/10 women think they deserve 8/10 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:09 PM
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Women are far more lustful than men, but only for a small percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:58 PM
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Please post a source for this. Women are cheating more than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:57 PM
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So if youre not in the one percent of men whats even the point of engaging with any of this? Why do you think men are dropping out of society faster than ever before? Why is the male loneliness epidemic all over social media? It's because women as a group have determined that only the top percentage of attractive men should even be considered people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:56 PM
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I think women have raw desire for a small % of men, just by looks alone. Correct. Looks trumps everything in a woman's mind. They will stay with men who are deadbeats and men who beat them as long as he is a Totally Hawt Guy (tm).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:53 PM
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Women will say whatever ends up getting them the most benefit in any situation, regardless of how true or logical it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:51 PM
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I think the difference is that women are viscerally attracted to like 1% of guys whereas for men that percentage is much higher. Hypergamy on full display. Women say there are "no good men left" because they are all trying to share the same top 20% of chads. The bottom 80% of men are literally invisible to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:51 PM
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To equalize this, it means you believe 1.6 million women are currently frauding a man into caring for a child that is not his. I believe it is much higher than 1.6 million. I would estimate that up to 1/3 of women are lying about who the father of their children is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:35 PM
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Yes, it is that rampant. Yes, it would more than equalize the number of women in prison compared to men. Yes, any woman that has tricked a man into believing her children are his when they are not deserves to be punished for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:50 PM
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Also, does a woman's personality (or her n-count) really have no effect on your attraction to her? Of course they do. If a woman has a bad personality, no one will want to be around her. If a woman has a high n-count, it's a sign that any children you have with her might not be yours (but she will still claim that they are). The difference between men and women is that women don't actually care about the non-superficial qualities a potential mate might have. If they did, then why do so many wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:33 PM
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Human nature. People will always lie, so the only logical solution is to not give them anything until you have determined that they aren't a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:31 PM
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You're ignoring what I said. Can you refute anything I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:05 AM
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Very succinct argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:03 AM
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What does that have to do with the debate? Access to sex is far less important than financial ruin, but I wouldn't expect a feminist to understand that because the only unit of value women truly possess is access to their vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:46 PM
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That doesn't change the fact that the final decision lies with the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:44 PM
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You don't see that the facts prove me right, incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:39 PM
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Reading comprehension. Men do not get the privilege of choosing who they have sex with. They ask the woman and then she decides.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:38 PM
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Once again trying to put the onus on men. Women choose who they have sex with, they are not required to have sex with anyone. Men do not get this same privilege. This means that a woman can stay abstinent until she properly vets a potential suitor. If a woman sleeps with a guy that she hasn't properly vetted, then she is accountable if that guy ends up leaving her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:06 PM
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Alimony awarded only 10% of the time. 7% Men to women. 3% Women to men. Nothing more needs to be said. Women are rewarded with cash and prizes for a divorce that they most likely initiated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:04 PM
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Women are often poorer after a divorce. If you can post a source stating that women are wealthier than men after divorce, then please do. Otherwise, shut the fuck up because you're spreading disinformation and this reflects poorly on RP. You have to prove your shit before you can say it. I'll start here. The top 10 richest women all got their money due to divorce, that trend continues at all levels of income. When men actually do the paperwork to initiate divorce, they are most likely to do it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:01 PM
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Please, post these statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:46 PM
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i'd truely like to know what goes on in the mind of a woman that gets into a LRT with lots of sex at the start and then shuts it off without bailing out of the relationship. This should be discussed more. Women complain that men manipulate them into sex, then they turn around and manipulate men into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:29 PM
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The problem with that is that women are rewarded with cash and prizes when they iniate divorce. Married men in OPs proposed situation have figured out that their quality of life will be better by putting up with it instead of being forced to pay alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:28 PM
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This sub sometimes gives the impression that some men think that women prevent men from having as mush sex as they want out of malice or they have some ulterior motivation to withold sex. That's a disingenuous way to frame your point. I have a feeling this is just going to be another male-bashing post. Do you think women collectively use sex against men? Yes, they do. The only unit of value that women understand is access to their hole and womens' in-group bias means that they will do whatever i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:23 PM
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If there was a dispute, men would excuse the man and blame the woman for putting herself in this situation. You are trying so hard to absolve women of any accountability when it comes to relationships. Women are the selectors for who gets to mate, so the onus is on them to choose a good mate. It's not men's responsibility for women to properly vet the guys they have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:10 PM
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You're free to think most women aren't worthwhile. Most women are a net drain on society. I wish men had higher standards and didn't just stick their dicks in every hole that consents lol This is called biological imperative, women have it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:51 PM
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When presented with only superficial characteristics, women will have higher standards than men, but this doesn't mean that their attraction is as rooted in superficial characteristics as men's is, it only means they are more selecttive. Two opposing statements. Superficial characteristics are the initial attractor, so that means its the most important aspect of the mating process. 80% of men aren't even given the option to show their non-physical characteristics because women are far more shall…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:44 PM
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Women have spent thousands of years honing their ability to blame everyone else but themselves for the consequences of their own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:35 PM
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You're the one who brought up what all men think 🤷🏻‍♀️ I asked you a valid question and you replied with a question that was moving the goalposts. That is bad faith. The only worthwhile men are the ones who aren't complaining. I am not surprised by your lack of self-awareness, but I'll play along. If you apply that logic to men, then it also applies to women, and oh boy are there a lot more women complaining about anything than there are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:33 PM
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The difference is that only the top ~20% of men are able to use women for anything. Meanwhile, ~80% of women are able to use men for their wallet/sex/whatever. That doesn't sound very balanced to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:22 PM
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I've met plenty of men who don't think women have the final say in sexual selection lol I've met plenty of women who say they do. Are you saying all men think like you? You don't have a logical response so you try to move the goalposts. Do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:21 PM
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Also, men are self-absorbed shits that only care about their own orgasm, which explains why only 65% of women in a relationship report orgasming every time they have sex. This doesn't make you seem bitter, at all. Yes, because he lied to her and dangled the prospect of a relationship when he really just wanted sex. It sounds like an issue women need to fix. Don't sleep with a man hoping he will have a relationship with you, make him have a relationship with you first. If he doesn't do that, then…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:18 PM
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They shoot themselves in the foot and then turn around and blame men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:08 PM
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Agreed, but men bitch about that too. They aren't saying to pick better, they're saying to pick them lol Are you implying that all men think exactly the same at all times?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:05 PM
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Women's bodies play a bigger role in their attractiveness to men than men's bodies do in their attractiveness to women That's why women filter ~80% of men based on immutable characteristics like height, hair, facial structure and men only filter the bottom ~20% of women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:59 PM
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No one is owed a relationship. It's on women to not sleep with every man that whispers sweet words to them, just like its on men to not open their wallet for every woman who whispers sweet words to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:52 PM
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Perhaps women should start vetting men they sleep with more, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:51 PM
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Read between the lines. These women are saying that they want the benefits of being the gender that chooses who gets to have sex, but they don't want the accountability that comes with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:50 PM
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It sounds like women need to vet their partners better and not have sex with them until they have determined that he isn't lying. Not mens' problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:48 PM
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The onus of sexual selection is on women, which means the onus of vetting the men they sleep with is also on women. If women are continually getting pumped and dumped by top ~20% chads who "lie" about wanting a relationship, then women need to select better mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:48 PM
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Yet they seem to think that they deserve the top ~20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:53 PM
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Seeing a handful of comments on a relatively small subreddit and assuming they apply to every single woman is a bit egregious. The women on this sub do exactly that to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:53 PM
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Like, if the guy approaches you with sexual/romantic interest and you aren't interested - give them a rejection. I've seen far too many women become incredibly cruel to men they haven't deemed "attractive" enough to even approach. Then they go and tell all of their girlfriends about the "totally creepy guy" that hit on them and ruin his reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:10 PM
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The feminists on this sub tend to not read anything they're trying to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:58 PM
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They want men to know their level, her level, and read the room. The problem is that the vast majority of women think they are on a higher SMV level than they really are. A 4/10 woman will be angry that a 4/10 man approached her because of womens' propensity to have overinflated egos, even though he is her looksmatch. A 4/10 man would be grateful to be approached by any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:57 PM
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You’re taking an extremely small sample size and extrapolating it to apply to every woman, everywhere. I see this from women far more often than I see it from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:54 PM
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Is this lies, rigged and playing games or is this individuals having individual preferences? It's women telling men one thing when they really mean another.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:54 PM
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unless you want to be single forever. This is what women want for the bottom ~80% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:52 PM
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Women decide this based on how tall and good-looking the man is. Short and ugly? Don't appoach anywhere, at any time. Tall and handsome? Approach her in a dark alley and she would most likely still say yes. Obviously this is hyperbole, but the main point is that SMV decides what is, and isn't, okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:25 PM
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No fucking shit you're going to get different perspectives, different wants, different expectations. Yet feminists on this sub try to generalize all men as violent rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:06 PM
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I disagree. Red pill is about improving yourself in all facets of life, most of which also happens to increase your value in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:29 PM
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But.... you just made up those parameters? I have no reason to accept their soundness. Saying "These parameters I made up support me and not you" is meaningless. You don't like it because it doesn't align with your deluded worldview. Men are considered most attractive from age 28-45, that doesn't mean that all men all the time will fall exactly into those parameters. I don't know why you'd think one magazine contest naming one person "sexiest alive" is more valid than another. If you're using be…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:15 PM
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Except that doesn't say women's standards are higher just that men aren't meeting them. Because they are too high. Reading comprehension and extrapolation are outside of your capabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:57 PM
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What hyperbole? It's the exact same kind of example you used to support your point.... No, it isn't. 59 years old is so far removed from a woman's prime that it could be considered hyperbole. Henry Cavill at age 42 is within the parameters that I originally mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:41 PM
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Your hyperbole isn't helping. By age 45, the vast majority of men will have exited their prime. By age 30, the vast majority of women will have exited their prime. Do what you will with this information.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:48 PM
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BTW, men's sexual peak is late teens to mid 20s. Female's sexual peak is after 30. Can you define "sexual peak" for us? So just because her beauty peaks at 25, sex is not the most important thing to her unless she is getting married. Sex is by far the most important thing to women, their entire adult lives revolve around who gets access to their vagina. That why she dates hypergamously. This is just female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:47 PM
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Not really I just want 20 yr old girlies to be able to enjoy their lives, go to parties, travel, date cute guys, find their favourite hobbies, get a great education and be really happy with where they are at 30 so they can decide who they like, and if they want kids. This is what feminists view as winning at life, basically getting to act like a child until their eggs dry up and then Perfect Boyfriend (tm) will show up when she's long passed her prime. I find it so funny that 35yr old men had fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:34 PM
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We totally know men desire them as young as possible, we have all been little girls before and know men start trying to be sexual with us by 11 or 12. Just like female teachers with their male students, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:29 PM
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Do you have anything useful to input, or are you going to keep up with ad hominem attacks?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:15 PM
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Men have told us time and time again that their biggest fear is to be with a woman who doesn’t really find them attractive and who is only with him for his “resources”. Which men? So we are not settling anymore. Pairing with your looksmatch is not settling and believing that it is, is delusional. That means a lot of women, regardless of how hot YOU think they are, are rejecting men for not being attractive enough to THEM. That’s what men wanted after all, right? Women are allowed to be attracted…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:14 PM
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No one wants to be settled for. It sounds to me like women are deluded into believing that their SMV is higher than it actually is, so when they inevitably end up with the SMV match in a partner they think they are "settling". It will froth and boil over eventually, figuratively speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:35 PM
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You don't deserve access to anyone, male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:27 PM
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Access to their hole is the only unit of value they truly understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:27 PM
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You are not owed a relationship with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:25 PM
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She's just trying to ragebait.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:25 PM
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Yes, but women are more shallow than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:13 PM
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Most of the people who hate on age gap relationships frame it as an issue of power imbalance, not necessarily a looks imbalance. They conveniently ignore that a woman from ages 18-24 is at the height of her power. Her ability to manipulate men into doing what she wants will never be higher. Of course, having seen the "maturity" that supposedly comes with age, this is not a convincing argument, and a typical example of Schrodinger's feminism, with the woman simultaneously being helpless and empow…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:03 PM
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Women would rather be with a degenerate deadbeat that looks like a model than a virtuous man that looks like a slug, more news at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:01 PM
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Specifically, whereas women were more likely than men to rely on partner attractiveness when choosing partners for what they described as “one-night stands,” men were more likely than women to rely on physical attractiveness when choosing partners for what they described as a “serious relationship.” You didn't read the article.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:54 PM
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Everyone does it, but women do it at a much higher rate more consistently than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:32 PM
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Women, however, tended to note that their standards were met less fully than did men. Further, compared to men, women reported a greater discrepancy between the importance they associated with various standards and the extent to which the standards were fulfilled in the context of their relationship. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229520465_Gender_differences_in_standards_for_relationships Women reported their standards were met less fully than men, extrapolate that and you have your a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:29 PM
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So then where does “shallow” enter the picture? Shallow implies that one is only attracted to the superficial aspects of something, even to their own detriment. Women will give the tall, handsome, and charismatic men sex even if he is a piece of crap deadbeat. How is wanting to be attracted to your partner considered shallow? When women say this, it's a "preference". When men say it, they are evil incarnate. The issue is that women are only "attracted" to immutable traits that only a very small …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:19 PM
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Unless you don't know what prime means you're missing the point on purpose just to keep the conversation going. "Prime: a state or time of greatest strength, vigor, or success in a person's life." I'd like to see your definition of prime. To get back to reality, and let me make it easier to understand this time: there is absolutely no universe in which a man's prime is TYPICALLY from 28 to 45. And no, a couple of celebrities don't count. Incorrect. The vast majority of men are exiting their prim…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:10 PM
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Both.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:40 PM
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...they want to be attracted to the person they are being intimate with So do men. The difference being that women only consider a very small percentage of men at the top of the distribution to be "attractive" enough to be considered at all, even when the women themselves wouldn't be considered attractive enough for the average man. I'm amazed you couldn't pin the dots together before posting your useless comment. but men on the other hand, will stick their 🍆s anywhere Another feminist hyperbole…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:26 PM
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You don't need to "peak" at 45 (lol) I see that reading comprehension is not your strong suit. A man's prime is typically from age 28-45, that doesn't mean that every single man will be at his peak when he is 45. That means that after 45, the vast majority of men will have exited their prime. The only one trying to cope here is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:20 PM
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I posted this 24 hours ago and it just showed up now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:44 PM
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It happens far more amongst women than it does men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:36 PM
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There are many universes where men in their 40s can be hotter than men in their early 20s. Notice how I stated men's prime is from age 28 to 45, not just "45"? Of course you didn't, because like 90% of the people on this sub you're not actually reading what you're trying to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:16 PM
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Would you let a 42 year old Henry Cavill impregnate you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:52 AM
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Comparing the supposed "oppression" of modern day men to the oppression and horrors that jewish people faced during the events depicted in Schindler's list is not even worth a debate, get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:46 AM
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Did you forget the entire point of this debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:37 AM
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Birth defects due to advanced paternal age are far less common than birth defects due to maternal age, full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:28 AM
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Ah yes, retroactively editing your statement to give yourself a leg up in a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:12 AM
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In the same way it doesn’t make sense for a woman to want to be a sidekick to someone else who isn’t particularly impressive The issue is with modern womens' definition of "impressive". Only 10-20% are deemed attractive enough to even be considered for the privilege of being judged as "impressive".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 12:56 AM
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She's projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 12:55 AM
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Do you think women are secretly shooting or murdering people and getting away with it? lol It happens all the time. Women are certainly capable of all of the heinous things men are capable of. The difference is that men kill other men at a much higher rate than men kill women. This comes from thousands of years of humans being a warring nomad, tribal, and eventually modern type of society. Men have to be capable of violence because their biological perogative is to protect from threats, man or b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 12:39 AM
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Henry Cavill is considered one of the sexiest men alive and is 42.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:36 PM
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No, recent studies show that birth defects are tied to older fathers. I'm talking about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:35 PM
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Please, post a link to these studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:20 PM
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Did you read the reply I posted that in response to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:50 PM
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Just don't use that as a propaganda to breed children now. The only people I see bringing this up on this sub are women. I am speaking strictly about women that are least age 18. Regardless, my point still stands. Birth defects are caused by and large by problems on the maternal side.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:50 PM
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It seems to me like you're the one trying to cope. Men aged 28-45 are considered most attractive, just like women aged 18-24 are considered most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:13 PM
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All factors are controlled except for gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:13 PM
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And by 35 a man's sperm is loaded up with defecting DNA. This is not true, sperm degradation doesn't usually occur until a man is passed 45. Even with that factored in, 99% of birth defects are caused by the woman having poor genes or a geriatric pregnancy. Your response is an obvious attempt at cope, but good try nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:10 PM
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"A 2001 University of Georgia study found substantial sentencing discrimination against men "after controlling for extensive criminological, demographic, and socioeconomic variables". The study found that in US federal courts, "males are... less likely to get no prison term when that option is available; less likely to receive downward departures [from the guidelines]; and more likely to receive upward adjustments and, conditioned on having a downward departure, receive smaller reductions than .…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:06 PM
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Yet most of the men in here have no idea how to actually have a healthy debate. Just like you, saying that 18 year olds are children. Your opinion does not match mine. That's okay. The idea that 18 year olds aren't adults is provably false, meanwhile everything I've stated can be backed up by facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:03 PM
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This usually happens because the man either has more priors or his priors are more violent (assault, armed robbery, DV charges, illegal gun possession, etc.) You're begging the question. All things considered equal, women do get lesser sentences than men. Start by reading the referenced articles here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentencing_disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:58 PM
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Using the law to say an 18 year old is an adult goes to show you lack a moral compass. I can't imagine the kind of person who would base their moral compass off of the words of someone who ignores literal reality. 18 years old = adult, time to accept that and move on. Any rational human being would date within their age range and not look at children like sex objects. Correct, but we aren't talking about children. We are talking about legal adults. I just said I'm married with kids. How could I …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:53 PM
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90% of the eggs a woman has are gone by age 30. Tick-tock.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:50 PM
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An 18 year old is still a child! So we can just make things up and say that they're facts. And as a 30 year old women who constantly has older men approach her and the very first thing they ask me is "Sweetie, how old are you? You don't look old enough to be in here." Meaningless anecdote. When I tell them I am married with kids, they run and attempt to victimize another poor woman. And then everyone clapped. The amount of men I've had to get kicked out of the bar because of the way they were be…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:49 PM
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This is sickening... Women aren't even women yet between those ages. They may be considered women by law... It doesn't mean they're at the cognitive function required to be a fully rounded adult. Which means men are primarily attracted to child-like innocent features in a girl, not a woman. What the fuck are you on about? An 18 year old doesn't have "child-like features". It seems to me like you're just making up some strawman in your head to try and villify men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:26 PM
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There are a lot of women in the comments saying that they enjoy getting older. The multi-billion dollar makeup industry says that those women are coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:04 PM
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Women here are constantly told that their prime is late teens. Women's prime is from age 18-24, it is documented fact that those are the years where a woman is most attractive to men of any age. But we’re also told that women have it so easy with dating. Why would any be complaining. Compared to men, the dating life of women is tutorial mode. Women complain for all kinds of inane reasons, no point in trying to quantify why they do it. And when is a man’s prime? A man's prime is typically age 28-…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:02 PM
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Those chores are the only thing they can understand, similar to how the only unit of value they understand is access to their vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:02 PM
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Women are the selectors for sexual relationships. If a woman doesn't want to have sex with a man, it ain't happening. This means that the onus of childbearing is put on women, yet women want to somehow shift that blame to men. Don't want a deadbeat to father your child? Stay abstinent and pick better men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:55 PM
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The difference being that men, on average, take responsibility for their bad choices. Women, on the other hand, tend to shift all blame and accountability towards the nearest male.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:42 PM
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Since the man had equality concerning the decision to participate in actions necessary for conception, it would be completely unethical to assume he has rights regarding the process of gestation. Women are the selectors of sex, therefore women need to be held accountable for the men that they allow to get them pregnant. Don't want a baby from a deadbeat who will skip out on you? Either make him wait or stay abstinent, don't try and force the consequences of a woman's poor decision onto men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:31 PM
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ya... you not believing my situation doesn't change reality. It just makes you feel better about yourself. It has nothing to do with that, he is calling you out because your anecdote is meaningless. This is what men are supposed to be respected for? Woman feels slightly uncomfortable in an argument, cue shaming language.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:15 PM
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Until men sacrifice their bodies to build a human within that body, they don't get to claim ownership of it. Typical feminist drivel. Having children is the primary objective of being a human and is in no way comparable to "sacrificing your body". Now, men actually sacrifice their bodies every day by doing all of the dangerous jobs that women don't care about. I don't see women lobbying congress to have 50/50 gender ratios for garbagemen, oil well workers, or crab fishermen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:01 PM
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Women are given scholarships at a much higher rate than men, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:58 PM
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It's a sexual entitlement crisis men are having, that actually is mostly the consequence of the atomization and increased isolation everyone is experiencing, in addition to grifting bad actors jumping to manipulate, distort and further isolate them. If anyone feels "entitled" to sex, its certainly women. Watch a man reject a woman's advances and see how hard she crashes out. You can apply that same logic to relationships. Men are choosing, however, to whine and stomp their feet, rather than thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:45 PM
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Feminism is about female superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:36 PM
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He agrees with you, but is trying to make you feel bad in the process of letting you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:00 PM
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...but is then told that his self-improvement doesn't count because it was done with the intent of attracting women which makes it unattractive or something. Once you read between the lines, the reason for this becomes clear: solpisism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:56 PM
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Many feminists seem to think that they can force men to interact with them and allow them into male spaces. Why don't feminists grant men the privilege of being left alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:53 PM
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Women generalise men because it's a distraction from their true nature and desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:50 PM
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Outside of them, I have no room for men in my life, in any capacity. Why won't feminists grant men this same privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:49 PM
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I get it now, a quick look at your comment history shows you're just a misandrist troll. Have a good day!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:48 AM
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Men sacrifice far more than women do in marriage, or any relationship capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:43 AM
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If women weren't rewarded with cash and prizes in divorce, the rate would plummet immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:38 AM
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Women initiate divorce between 70-90% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:00 AM
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One is a real problem, the other isn't. I'll let you try to figure out which is which.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:01 AM
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Women are the majority voting bloc, so that doesn't track at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:01 AM
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Pick a lane. Buddy, you're literally red pill, an entire movement based on men who have made careers off of whining about how awful they think women are by getting lonely and bitter men to give them money. Nothing but hypocrisy and projections here. Made up falsehood. You have no idea what TRP is about. Or, hear me out, you can not (try to) date them and you can stop whining about them. It's a win-win. Projection, again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:02 PM
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No, it's because you're misrepresenting your false claims as facts. Now, have a good day!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:55 PM
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Feminists on this sub complain day in and day out about how taking care of children they decided to have is "unpaid labor". Nothing more needs to be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:55 PM
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Plenty of women choose poorly and acknowledge it. The exception to the rule does not make the rule itelf. Women have made careers off of whining about how awful they think men are. I think they should start dating eachother (women, that is).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:53 PM
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Nice strawman, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:52 PM
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Oh look, more generational snobbery. No one is owed sex and rape is illegal for a reason. Now, sex is part of romantic relationships, there's no way around that. Women want to be able to choose when its relevant depending on whats most convenient to them at that moment. I know for a fact that women will quickly dump a guy that doesn't want to have sex with them, even for valid reasons. I haven't ever seen a man crashout like women do when rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:48 PM
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Men are simultaneously glorious civilization chads and oppressed dating simps According to feminists, women are simultaneously powerful queens who are better than men in every way, but also horrible oppressed victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:44 PM
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Dudes here really need to stop making having a kid sound like a hostage situation, This level of projection is only possible when it comes from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:35 PM
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For trying to blame all men for their poor choices in mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:32 PM
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We aren't dating down and that's not at all connected to this topic. Which traditional gender roles would you like not to have applied to you that you believe still are? We can start with abolishing the duty to protect women via draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:31 PM
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Or are you just here to bitch about how much harder you think your life is in comparison to the lives of people you know nothing about? I see this from women on this sub far more than men, with all this "unpaid labor" bs about taking care of your own home and raising your own kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:30 PM
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Absolutely unhinged leap there. You lose an argument so you resort to calling me a rapist. Reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:27 PM
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You lost the debate, move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:23 PM
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Historically women outside of religious communities could not practice abstinence. A married woman was required to have sex with her husband. Staying unmarried wasn't an option for most women and women often had to marry as directed by their parents. Men were required to protect their wives, and still are to this day. No one is owed sex, man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:23 PM
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Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:20 PM
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Another ad hominem attack, I will take that as your concession to the debate! Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:15 PM
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Better to just not have kids until the situation improves. Now you're making sense. Instead of blaming men for womens' poor choices in mates, they can be abstinent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:09 PM
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Because those are the every day things that keep a home running and they heavily fall on women. The lawn, oil changes, etc that men say they do aren't things that are done every single day, or even weekly or monthly depending on where you live. They still need to be done and I don't see women out there doing them to the same rate that men are cooking, cleaning, and taking care of children. Those are just a few examples of things that women don't even realize they expect men to take care of witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:09 PM
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Not every woman in history died in childbirth. Women are not forced to give birth, they can adhere to this thing called abstinence. Men fighting wars didn't get that privilege, either they went into the meat grinder or they went to jail. Men that didn't go to war for health reasons have been historically shamed by women (white feather). You're trying so hard to drive home a point that is unequivocally false.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:05 PM
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What does that have to do with anything? You can always count on a feminist to move the goalposts when they're losing a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:00 PM
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I've already answered this in another comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:48 PM
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The poor decisions they make. Women pick deadbeats for a husband, then turn around and say "all men are trash!". That's like a man picking a drug addict for a wife, then when she does drug addict things says "all women are trash!". Women overwhemingly go into careers that pay less overall, yet turn around and say "men are oppressing us!" even though men in those same positions are getting paid less. The list goes on and on, but it's not my job to educate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:46 PM
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So you agree with me, way to concede your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:43 PM
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No one needs a relationship for protection. So you're saying that men should protect women who give them no benefit, but women don't have to reciprocate (because they literally aren't capable of it). Yes. I expect to feel sympathy for mothers because the plan is almost always for both partners to take care of the kids and then the husbands renege on the deal. Sounds like women need to vet their mates better instead of only going for the top 20% of "totally hawt" guys that they seem to be sharing…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:39 PM
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A lot of them used corruption and are allowed to live peacefully. It's such a minute amount that it might as well be zero. Meaningless. And there are men like you, who probably not even near the war, and want to claim credit for potential protection that you might flee from. You can see men who protect and ignore those who don't and there are majority of them. Can you articulate this in a way that makes sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:37 PM
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Ad hominem attack is a signal that you don't have a counter argument. Have a good day!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:35 PM
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Great, you're going to be obtuse on purpose. Women don't care about those men and actively hate them, but those men do care about women (for now, at least) and want to love them, but they are continuously rejected. You can only starve someone for so long before they stop caring and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:35 PM
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We can start by having women stop blaming and shaming men for failing to meet their ever-increasing, delusional standards for a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:32 PM
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How typical. You know I'm correct, so you try to tack on "b-b-b-b-but men do it too!". All ukrainian women are allowed to leave the country, a very very small fraction of men are allowed to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:32 PM
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What about it? Do you have a point to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:31 PM
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Compared to how many men die fighting wars to protect those women? If you're not going to debate in good faith, I will consider this settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:30 PM
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Formula exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:25 PM
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Women, as a group, have done their damnest to convince everyone that any sort of criticism against a woman or holding them accountable for their choices is misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:23 PM
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Again if it's so easy, why aren't men doing it? Nice logic trap. It is easy and a basic human function. Are you telling me that women are so incompetent that they can't perform basic human functions without complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:22 PM
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Who do you think does it for the hordes of single men? Taking care of the house and taking care of children are not "unpaid labor", and never will be. If they are, then men have the right to consider all of the shit they do for women for free as unpaid labor, like listening to them complain about inane shit they have no intention of fixing or doing an oil change that she didn't take care of for 12,000 miles because "teehee im just a girl".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:21 PM
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Equal pay. Which btw, many women still don’t get paid as much as men in the same roles. This has been documented as false. Women tend to make more than men for the exact same roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:17 PM
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I wish more men would realize that feminism isn't about female equality, its about female superiority. Modern women have been brainwashed into thinking that mens' sole purpose is to try and opress them, so they believe that they deserve to "have their turn".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:17 PM
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Housework? Childcare? Better than previous generations, but still not equal. Grocery shopping? PTA meetings? Scheduling family doctor's appointments? Why do women think that these are the only things that ever need to be done around the house? Barring that, those things aren't even labor, they're just part of life and being human.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:15 PM
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Those men broke the law by doing that. The women that left will be allowed to return without being arrested when everything is said and done. Your point gives the opposite reaction that you thought it would.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:10 PM
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Women are given the choice to leave, men are not. This is fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:09 PM
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This is in the same vein as the "women aren't gold diggers because men don't have any gold to dig" argument. As usual, when women don't have a counter argument they resort to ad hominem insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:08 PM
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They will conveniently ignore anything that doesn't support their delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:05 PM
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Men are not protectors. That’s a role for police and government. ...which are overwhelmingly men. In order to be a protector, you have to be capable of violence. Women are capable of violence, but not in the way that would protect others from harm. Women are stuck still doing most of the housework and childcare. Do you expect anyone to feel sympathy because you have to take care of your home and raise children that you decided to have? Dating is unequal because men on average like sex a lot more…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:04 PM
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Your anecdote is meaningless. Every woman I have dated has made less than me and done less than I do in the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:01 PM
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That's fine. Have those standards of exact body type/breast size. Those are such important things for a relationship. /s So disingenuous. Women have a laundry list of delusional requirements for men, yet when the shoe is on the other foot its a sarcastic "that's soooo important for a relationship". In the many decades I have been on this earth, I have realized that if women didn't have double standards they wouldn't have any standards at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:00 PM
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Women have already done that with ~80% of the male population. How do you think those men feel about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:58 PM
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the "female gender role" had a consistently large casualty rate due to the dangers of childbearing Which is such a miniscule fraction of the large casualty rate of men who were fighting to protect those very same women. This doesn't hit as well as you think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:56 PM
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