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Bc they're hot and confident. That's literally it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 07:40 AM
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This is exactly the Drew Afualo / Andrew Tate situation. Andrew Tate and Drew Afualo pretty much say the same thing about the opposite sex, but Andrew Tate is "dangerous" and radicalizing young men,while Drew is "powerful" and "standing up for women"
/r/MensRights22/08/22 07:53 PM
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It can be survival of the fittest, and you are still valid for feeling frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:29 AM
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Ranting can be relief (albeit not a good one, cuz it dont solve the problem)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:58 PM
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Yea man if Im working 8-10 hour days and she isnt then she should be cooking and cleaning simple as. If we both work, we split it. But everyone knows the best way to keep a man happy is feed him, fuck him, and shut the fuck up 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:25 PM
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No she is obviously my slave and her personal needs are unimportant /s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:24 PM
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I was curious
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:23 PM
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TBF, most people rate restaurants on Google maps as 4-5 stars if their experience was good and there was nothing wrong. To accurately say "the average", you need to look at the average rating. The average restaurant rating on Google maps is 3.8.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:10 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:04 AM
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I once did an anonymous poll among a group of frat guys I knew. It was anonymous so that people didn't have to lie or feel like they need to exaggerate to make up for the fact they had a low n-count. The poll was simply typing in your n-count and clicking submit, and you could only submit once. Median age was 20, and the median n-count was about 5. The data followed the 80/20 rule. Out of 40 guys, 2 had n-counts over 50, 3-4 had over 20, and most were 4 +-1. Ofc, these are frat boys, so their n-…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:03 AM
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I'm not a psychologist but I think the simple answer is "It's fun" and they probably have stronger FOMO (fear of missing out) than the average person
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:56 AM
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Because it feels good lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:53 AM
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I think the 15+ range for n-counts says it all. 28.3% of men claim to be in that range while 12.9% of women claim to be in that range. That's 1/3 men and 1/8 women. Not the majority, but still a lot. It means that, at least for men, 1 in 3 men you meet has a bodycount over 15. Its also possible that the women lied, since there is a stigma behind admitting a high body count for women, but not a stigma for men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:52 AM
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I tend to agree, as that is what the facts show, though I think young Millenials / Gen Z are worth studying since they are growing up in the time of online dating. Furthermore, it would be interesting to divide up this data by people with and without a college degree, since people with a college degree probably had more opportunities to hook up than non-college folks who probably stayed in their hometowns and weren't on college campuses. It would also be interesting to compare the data based on …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:49 AM
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Sorry bro, it's just in our DNA.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:47 AM
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Not exactly true is it? Cuz on the other hand, a common trope here is the late-30s career woman / cat mom who lost out because she focused on her career? A guy could also lose out on relationships by focusing solely on his career no? And while he is still a prize at 40 with a good career & lots of money, that doesn't mean he didn't miss out on anything
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:47 AM
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I coulf be happy being a lazy fat bum that works for minimum wage if it didn't make me an incel. Well, you can't really survive anywhere in the US on min. wage LOL. But disregarding that point, as a lazy fat bum working for a wage, I want to do better / have a career because I have my own aspirations other than women. But having a fufilling romantic life is very important to me, its a central pillar, along with having enough money, good health, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:45 AM
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I would half agree (I am a man). Getting laid is very important to men's ego & self-worth. Testosterone makes men pretty horny, and social norms also dictate that we have to approach women if we want anything. On the other hand, men can and do have higher purposes besides getting laid. If you have already gotten laid a couple of times, then it is a lot easy to focus these other things, because you don't feel like you are "missing out."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:44 AM
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Oh no men like food! He must want a live in mommy! Just telling you what men like bro. And yea if Im the only one working she is gonna have to cook. If we are both working then we should split all the housework, chores, and cooking since we are both working.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:30 AM
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Thx
/r/MensRights16/08/22 09:28 AM
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Be hot, keep me fed, dont argue, dont cheat, lots of sex = perfect wife. Thats it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:07 AM
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If I loose weight I wont be ugly anymore. I wasnt fat once upon a time and I had much more success with women. I wasnt gorgeous by any means either, i was just a normal looking white dude, but I had a lot more sucess. I dont blame them for not wanting me now. Then covid happened and I let myself go and Ive been fighting to get back ever since. Its hard when youre working 10 hours a day, I barely have the energy to cook dinner much less go to the gym. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:08 AM
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Reality can be whatever I want
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:02 AM
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No I def am ugly, like without a doubt 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:49 AM
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Its probably 20% tho if you go to an ask2xchromosomes threads most says 1-5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:33 AM
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Okay perhaps not 60-80% of ALL women but I crrtaintly do tho thats its probably bc Im in college where most women are pretty normal weight and havent ballooned up. Even tno 33% of America is obese it seems like I only see 1/100 women in college who is obese and thats prob bc we have to walk everywhere to go to class.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:32 AM
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but heaven forbid a woman says she prefers a handsome man over an ugly one all else being equal. The issue isn't that women prefer handsome men (since obviously, everyone wants to date attractive people!). The main issue seems to be that men find 60-80% of women attractive, while women only find 1% of men attractive so there is a huge imbalance. Ofc, female attraction works differently than men's, ofc, but women aren't even giving most average men a chance anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:50 AM
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I doubt it, because being honest would just be women saying "I really don't like 99.9% of men, and I like that .1% for reasons I can't explain" so at the end of the day, no
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:48 AM
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As you should, I think both men and women should hold themselves to this standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:39 AM
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Technically yes. I believe in the UK for instance, legal rape is defined as "man penetrating woman" but to be fair they have another law to cover women as well that defines the opposite i think its just called sexual assault or something
/r/MensRights16/08/22 12:24 AM
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So you're friends but youre having sex but youre not in a relationship? Wth???
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 07:03 PM
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So you just want no strings attached sex basically? Fascinating
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:09 PM
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Im sorry I misread your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:37 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:45 PM
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What? Its a good thing ...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:45 PM
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Nah, there is a difference between a woman "dating" and a woman "hoeing around".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:54 PM
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American Deep South Well, there you go. I'm from the Deep South too, ofc its like that. Don't forget tho a lot of those single high school grads go to big South schools like Bama, FSU, etc and then ride the CC like there's no tomorrow. That being said, I did see a fair amount of high school sweethearts stick together and get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:52 PM
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How many men are making genuine offers of commitment to women they've been dating and getting rejected? Me lol. Though I'm in a field where a lot of people prefer LTRs to hookups, so that's probably why. Most of my friends get into LTRs and almost never hookup, that includes women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:51 PM
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I'm not against women having sex before marriage. That's completely fine. It's fine if they have had many long-term relationships too. (Depends on length, but I'd say 3-4 LTRs is the goldilocks zone) The red flag is lots and lots of hookups, with few, if any, long-term relationships. What that indicates to me is that the woman (a) can't hold down a relationship and (b) she gives it up easy, so if she is making me wait, while she gave it up easy for dozens of other men, I'm not gonna stand for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:50 PM
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Doing your due diligence I suppose. Tho, I will admit, one great way that women take advantage of men is to be slutty (have sex often, not being promiscuous) when they are just in a relationship and then take that away once marriage vows are taken, bc they already "secured the bag"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 11:48 PM
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Generally speaking, most single, lonely men are between 18-29, especially 18-23 (college age). That's when men are at their lowest SMV in their adult lives while women are at the highest, meaning there is a huge disparity. Hence why something like 20% more young men are single than young women, since many young women date up and date older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:58 PM
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The solution is to find someone
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:56 PM
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By like "for us" I meant consentual and or not paid for. Its validation. Shes dating / sleeping with me bc she wants to and thats it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:47 PM
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Yea I tend to agree with this comment. We can't force women to like us (and even if we could that would kind of defeat the point - we want women to like us for us )
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:27 AM
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I would agree since women see men with lots of female friends as "safe." Hence why gay guys tend to have lots of female friends. He can't be a creep if he has a lot of women around him, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:19 AM
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Theyve already been medicated lol
/r/MensRights10/08/22 10:41 PM
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extremely unrealistic
/r/MensRights10/08/22 10:31 PM
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We have the internet and can hide away when we need to. Pre-Internet I feel like autistic people would just learn how to "act" correctly instead of retreating inside onto their computers and sometimes becoming hikkikomoris.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 10:22 PM
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Thats monkey branching
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:00 PM
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Why are some men only NSA? What's this mean? Do they know he’s a top Chad who won’t stick around but they want their shot anyway? Is it a dude of a different race or culture and she knows he won’t gel with friends and family? It prob is because the woman fakes love and affection at first to secure the bag, which ofc the beta falls for because love and affection is so rare from women for him, and he feels like he won the jackpot when he really just got sloppy seconds. And then after she secures t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 12:07 PM
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And, btw, that systemic power is held up by federal law, called Title IX, which prohibits discrimination based on sex, gender, race etc. but also can be used to prevent "hostile environments" in colleges, which can really just mean anything if you are triggered easily.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 12:05 PM
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Correct. Which I can solve by promptly ending the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:28 PM
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No, only if a pattern establishes itself will I feel offended if she makes me wait. If it was a one or two time thing I can understand that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:09 AM
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It only makes sense if you don't do random hookups. Despite what a lot of people think, sex matters to people, and it feels bad to most people that you make them wait while you "gave it up" to some random hookup. At the end of the day, it makes you feel emasculated and worth less than the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:51 AM
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Okay, that's completely fair. Its super easy to develop feelings too quickly for people and imagine a perfect life with them when you clearly aren't there yet with them in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:14 AM
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Depends on the length of waiting tbh. A few dates? Sure. 3+ months, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:12 AM
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2 things can be true: (1) Women make men wait because they don't want to give it up so easily anymore after being burned by past men who want to pump and dump, which they learned the hard way (2) women should make good men wait I'm trying to see from the female perspective. Consider that they may have had sex very quickly with a guy they found attractive hoping to get into a LTR, and then he ghosted them. Consider that she doesn't want that to happen again, and so she wants to do her due diligen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:12 AM
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By "work" I don't think he means things like "housework" or "planning dates / trips" I think he meant (and he can correct me if I am wrong) men do all the work to establish the relationship. As in, the relationship would have never happened if the man never pursued the man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:08 AM
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So yes, going slower when you're really into someone makes sense, even for a dude. Unlike for women, for dudes, having a high body count isn't undesirable. In fact, its the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:06 AM
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If sex is something your partner wants, and they have to wait for it even though your past partners didn’t, and then you try to say “well it’s because I care about you” doesn’t that seem like a mindfuck? This seems ridiculous to me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:05 AM
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he has no desirable qualities except his body she is fetishising and using him for a one night stand then kicking him out the door One of the best things to separate alphas and betas are looks. It's really that simple. You can have everything else that is desirable, but if you are ugly, its going to be a lot harder to be an "alpha" than if your handsome. Also, one thing to consider is how looks determine behavior. Let's say your a handsome guy who can pull easily. That will boost your confidence…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:02 AM
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I want to say that if you ask a woman to explain why she had a threesome with a stranger and made you wait, she will give you a million excuses but never a good reason. It's not like she will just come out and be honest about it LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:16 AM
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Even if they did, so what? She has a right to change what she likes, he has a right to leave the relationship if he doesn't like that. Men want women who are prudish for everyone else and whore for thems.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:13 AM
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Of course he's not a victim for waiting lmao. You can't be a victim of someone having different standards than you. It just is what it is. And the purpose of TRP is to advice men that they shouldn't wait around to long, because there is a strong indicator of how the relationship will be in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:11 AM
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A girl in the comments literally said this: Lastly, it could be that she has different rules for “this is a no-strings-attached encounter and I’ll never see you again” and “I really like you and would like to potentially date you.” That’s been the case for me in the past. When I was in “ho” mode, it didn’t matter, but if it was someone I wanted to stick around, I would wait to have sex with them for at least a month or two. A literal example of AF BB and they don't even know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:10 AM
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Yea one of my biggest criticisms of him is that he sees women as property. TRP doesn't seen women as property, just as flawed human beings who share common traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 03:04 AM
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Andrew Tate is a red-pill type guy Andrew Tate specifically denounced TRP when he was on the Full Send Podcast (although many of his ideas align with the Red Pill) He's been milling around for close to 10 years on Twitter, YouTube and Instagram where he was constantly banned and suppressed by the gynocentric, left-leaning Western media platforms. He only started his current MLM thing in January, according to the man himself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 03:03 AM
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95% of bisexual women have exclusively dated men and just love their women friends in a platonic way
/r/MensRights03/08/22 11:19 PM
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Why would men want to go to a mens only club ? One of the biggest reasons I go out is for women.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 11:18 PM
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Okay perhaps they do like sex but they seem to hate talking about it with anybody but their girlfriends and that hate people being sexualized. Being sexualized makes them feel really uncomfortable. Its so weird to me. Anyways, TRIPLE DIGITS? WHAT!?
/r/MensRights03/08/22 10:51 PM
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Bc gay men hit on men, women don't. Makes me feel good.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 08:28 PM
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Its so weird how women hate the idea of sex.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 07:12 PM
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If he is worried abt divorce costing too much money he should just find a side hoe and sleep with her until his wif wife finds out.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 05:31 PM
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Stop seeing men as predators and women as prey to be eaten when sex is supposed to be a consensual act between two adults, youre perpetuating harmful stereotypes and contriburing to the stigmatization of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:35 PM
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Sure, but don't legally oblige me to respect you if you decide to do crazy modifications to your body
/r/MensRights31/07/22 12:26 AM
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Andrew Tate is correct. So many problems would be fixed if women had to wear their body count on their forehead Now Im wondering if Im not acting properly for him to guess that. There is literally no guy that actually wants to date & marry a woman with a high body count
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 08:59 PM
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Bruh if u have a wife why are u arguing about the dating and sexual marketplace? You've already made it..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:14 AM
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Given that we all live vastly different lives and have different types, um yes? And because of that you'll never see me whining that random women on the street didn't appreciate me disrupting their day with the prospect of seriously dating me. (a) most women you will meet at the bars and clubs are in their hoe phase (b) I never said you would meet your wife randomly approaching strangers on the street either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:44 AM
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Women are obsessed with this idea that guy are constantly looking at them like bitch I don't give a fuck leave me the fuck alone, and even if I was looking at your ass, so fucking what? You're literally wearing Lululemons that are 2 sizes too small literally designed to highlight your ass, fuck OFF
/r/MensRights30/07/22 12:59 AM
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Because he's the top G, obviously /s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:54 AM
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How am I supposed to build my empire and conquer the world if I am a stay at home Dad?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:54 AM
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Cold approaches are always going to have a high failure rate if you're average. Women only like 1-5% of guys. If you don't have money, status, or charisma, it's gonna be even harder. Tough shit. That's the game, you gotta play it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:53 AM
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Great. I can't know your personality before I actually talk with you. It would be stupid of you to expect me to filter women by their personality first. How I am I supposed to know the women with good personalities unless I talk with you? But if they have a good personality, I also want them to be hot. It's a lot easier for me to see if a woman is hot than it is to see if she has a good personality. I can instantly see if a girl is hot. I have to talk with you for quite some time to see if you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:48 AM
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This is so fucking wrong like I can't even describe how wrong it is. If you are dating to marry, you seriously think you are going to meet your wife at the bar or at the club? LMAO. The brutal truth is that women don't like being cold approached because most guys are ugly and aren't good at it. But once in a while, a guy who they actually find attractive, who is charismatic, sweeps them off their feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:12 AM
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Yea it was a response to /u/urbangoth. Like how women are put off from a man being physically attracted to them. It's so fucking dumb. "Ewww, he likes me because I'm hot!!" Like what the fuck? Obviously he likes you because you're hot. Why the fuck would I want to date an ugly girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:08 AM
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So what are rhe chances if I poll 37 random women that a majority have male partners? Pretty fucking high 50%. 50% of women are single, at least depending on the age, assuming young women. That being said I have had similar experiences as OP where every girl I talk to is taken. Cuz their all attractive. All the attractive girls are taken, obv.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:05 AM
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Okay, let me ask a question. Why the FUCK would you try to date a girl you weren't physically attracted to? Like wtf are you doing? That's literally the most basic qualification
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:03 AM
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Women don't generally like cold approaches unless it's in an environment where it's normal (club, bar, social event). They don't even like it there. The common denominator is that they like cold approaches from guys they are attracted to, and they don't like cold approaches from guys they don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:02 AM
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Perhaps your approach is bad? You need to analyze what you did, how the women reacted, and change your approach. Stop doing things that push them away, and keep doing the things they like. Improvise, adapt, overcome
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:01 AM
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Boomhauer was a closeted red-piller, he was a Top G
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:00 AM
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I don't think the women are "screwed" cuz a lot of women seem fine being single even into their 30s and 40s. Especially with female liberation, women can go get a career and survive without a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:57 PM
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Yea, I know, its looks, status, & money. The more of those three things you have, the more shit you can put up with. The ugly, loser, broke guy will have to put up with a whole lot of shit to keep his girl. The rich, beautiful, high-status man can tell women to fuck off if she doesn't do what he wants, cuz he's hard to replace
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:53 PM
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Incredibly based
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:11 PM
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why do we have more woman beating We don't incel terrorism This is pretty much a non-issue since there has been like 3 or 4 attacks in 10 years, vs thousands upon thousands of homicides from gang violence (which is also caused in part by toxic masculinity)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:19 PM
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Have you considered that it may also be biological? Humans have been around for 100,000 years +. Modern dating has only been a thing for 40 years or so. Women have much more to lose from being promiscuous (pregnancy), so they have evolved to be content being single and not be horny all the time, while men have evolved to be horny all the time to maximize the number of offspring. People say mind over matter, but hormones are very strong
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:10 PM
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ideal man is college educated 40% of men white 60% of men earning $60k+ Half of men, though many non-college men can make more than this via trades, would you disqualified a blue collar guy who made more than $60k if he didn't go to college? 6ft+ 14.5% of men. Honestly these aren't bad standards tbh, at least the income isn't something way out of the ordinary like $100k or more (16% of men). The only thing I would say is consider 5'11 and 5'10 dudes and that opens up many more options, since "co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:05 PM
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they can get undesireable dudes. It's problematic though when women only rate the top 5% of men as desirable... like, you created that problem yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:02 PM
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In circles where the men have a little more going for themselves you'll actually find their standards are A LOT more rigid. "beggars can't be choosers" basically
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:00 PM
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They want to consent to be roughed up lol, they don't just want to be roughed up for no reason when they don't want it my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:57 PM
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I don’t really desire sex when I’m not in a relationship. I find this fascinating, cuz for men its the exact opposite. But I have heard many, many women say this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:56 PM
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This makes sense to me as a man too, plus, no risk of pregnancy which is a huge plus, esp. with the end of Roe v Wade (though that isn't factored into the study bc the study ended in 2021 before Roe was overturned)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:56 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:35 PM
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I actually do care, but I doubt you'll believe me. I don't want just hookups & want an actual romantic relationship with a woman so we can build a life together.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:21 PM
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Some people get frustrated and take what they want by force. Even in a society like ours where we have law & order and it's much harder to get away with committing crimes, people still do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:18 PM
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Yes, hence why I am focusing on that & not trying to get a gf at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:16 PM
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I'm working on it lol. Already 15 pounds down!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:16 PM
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Well yea. If you want to embrace cold approach, you basically have to be okay with making some women uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:14 PM
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Let me edit this to say no women vs no "one". I have plenty of male and female friends but no women wants to have a sexual relationship with me (i dont blame em tho im obese !)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:56 AM
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Easy to do if at least some people like you. Humans are social creatures. If no one likes you, very hard to overcome the idea that you are actually likeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:38 AM
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No amount of self-love can overcome social proof
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:34 AM
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Wrong. But your first sentence is also correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:25 AM
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Do you know what this belief results in? Rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:36 AM
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Yea obviously, we know this already g
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:34 AM
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You've got it completely wrong. Women would rather choose unhappy independence than happy dependence. What does that say about women? Why is freedom of choice necessary if freedom of choice makes you more unhappy than not having freedom of choice? Would you rather be free & chronically depressed on not free but at least happy & content? Many people would say they would choose freedom, but they're lying. Women don't want to be SAHM because they've been brainwashed. Simple as. The feminist agenda …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:31 AM
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Sure im referring to fat mama june obv
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:26 AM
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When did I say I want to force women to date men? That seems to be what you think I am saying. I simply said that lonely frustrated men simply want women to date them. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:53 AM
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Yea, but if you're on the lower end of the totem poll, the "ugly than you people" are literally land whales like Mama June
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:53 AM
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In college, I learned that the cute girl that you vibe with and seems totally obtainable is fucking around with someone out of her league. But some fat chick thinks she’s a perfect match for you even though you work out 5 days a week and have a bmi less than half of hers. This is pretty much one of the foundational beliefs of the RP. Cute girls "in your league" date up, fat girls below you are the only people who want you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:52 AM
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Ugly people are not attracted to other ugly people. This could have been the whole comment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:51 AM
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No, bc ugly women would also say no bc they also only want hot men. Both ugly men and women would need to agree to date each other for ugly people to pair up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:50 AM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:49 AM
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It's hard for me to care about someone who has life on easy mode
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:48 AM
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What are you talking about. The guys who are sad about women not wanting to date women just want women to date them, that's literally it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:47 AM
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When ugly men talk to women, they are rapist creeps who deserve to die. Many people are saying
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:47 AM
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libido killer like SSRI or similar I am on an SSRI and it did not kill my libido at all. Furthermore, being sad about not being able to get a GF has nothing to do with horniness and more to do with lack of validation & feeling worthless, which an SSRI can't fix
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:46 AM
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Literally eugenics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:46 AM
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You want to avoid men and also say that men's dating woes are null? I don't get what's so hard for you to understand that, and I am saying that as a man. They don't give a shit about our issues. They don't want to be approached, and they don't care if it makes it harder for us. They want what they want, and they don't care about anybody else, simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:44 AM
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Okay, true, but I am not OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:43 AM
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What if I told you men also deal with those stresses, and that dealing with that stress is just part of working. So once again being in the workforce brought them all that unhappiness that men already had to face when they could have stayed at home, never known that stress, and been happy. As I said, they thought the grass was greener on the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:42 AM
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"I'll date you, anon" thats literally it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:41 AM
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Most people don't value the homemaking skills of another person beyond just the basics, otherwise it would be an easy cheat code for getting high-value women, nor does almost ever factor into the initial calculus of "should I date this person." Not being lazy & keeping your place clean & being able to cook is ALL important, but it is something that comes up later and can make or break a relationship, later on, it's never something that comes up at the beginning. Nobody dates an ugly person becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:37 AM
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I really don't want to wade into these waters, but it seems like women really don't know what's best for themselves, even though they claim to do. One reason for this may be that they try to do things they think will make them happier, but it turns out it doesn't. For instance, many women choose to be promiscuous and have lots of sex, thinking it will make them happier, when it never does. Women are, on average, much more unhappy and much more medicated today than they were pre-feminism and pre-…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:18 AM
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Why would i want a poorer guy if all he has to offer (as op suggest) is height and wealth? Why do rich guys want hot, young women when all they have to offer is their looks & weight. The question answers itself. But anyways, that aside, you can find a loving husband you can raise a family with if he makes less than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:09 AM
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Every woman (actually basically most females in the animal kingdom also) will choose a partner that can provide for her and her family. This is good and fine and all for most of history until very recently, beginning in the 1980s, when more women than men began to go to college & close the wage gap (and eventually surpass it). Remember if the wage gap is zero, that means half of guys are make less than half of women and vice versa. That means on average, 1 out of every 2 guys you meet will make …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:09 AM
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I am not a woman, but let me some up the answers: "Yes, but only if they're respectful and take "no" well, and only if I am in a certain place, and only if I am in a certain mood, which basically means never." (These are the same women who complain on 2XC about men constantly approaching them, but also fail to mention that is how they met their BF)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:05 AM
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I expect to have a lot of assets in the future. Im graduating in a field that pays 90k starting. I expect to buy a home one day and own land. Just fyi when my parents married they were broke and when they divorced 25 years later their assets totaled $5 million. You have to plan the long game.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 05:34 PM
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So is everyone else my age oh and wait a minute are men only worth dating if theyre rich now ? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 05:23 PM
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Wdym? Im dating to marry rn
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 05:16 PM
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Used to & no, im in college lmao we're all broke
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 04:46 PM
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Because those women were mostly likely raised in a high control religious environment or stuck in an arranged marriage in a conservative culture. People indoctrinated into religious culture are unlikely to escape no matter how unpleasant or controlling the marriage is. Sure, but I'd rather marry a woman raised in that culture than an ex-slut who has an 80% chance of divorcing me, considering divorce is the worst financial event that can ever happen to most men. Find a survey of modern, progressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:54 PM
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Figure A - body count vs risk of divorce I doubt many people have had just one sexual partner by that age. I agree, this isn't the 1950s anymore. Personally, I think anywhere from 3-6 prior sexual partners is the sweet spot. Preferably you want to marry a woman who has had several very long relationships vs many short-term ones. What this shows is the ability to stay committed and loyal, and its understandable people will have had relationships and broken up, things just don't work out sometimes…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:51 PM
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Plenty of 'sluts' get married or in long terms [relationships] Sure, but the divorce rates are much higher. If a woman is married to the only guy she has ever had sex with, the chances of divorce are 20. If a woman marries the 15th guy she slept with, or higher, the chances of divorce go up to 80%. That's the whole point. Ofc "sluts" can get married, that's not the point. The point is that marrying them is incredibly risky. Did you know some people 'sleep around' because they like sex? Obviously…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:26 PM
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I used to agree with OP, but after reading a bunch of arguments about why casual sex is bad, I actually agree with your point. Sleeping around a lot destroys pair bonding and has negative effects on your ability to form healthy relationships, that goes for guys and gals. I agree that its harder for men to sleep around, which is why its applauded vs criticized, but its still not good for you. Both sexes should not be promiscuous, both should be trying to form LTRs
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:24 PM
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I think thats bc incel women dont like men because they find them disgusting, rude, nasty etc, while incel men hate women bc the women wont give them something. The first makes you want to stay away, the 2nd makes you want to hurt the person
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:09 PM
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Im an incel ask me anything.
/r/MensRights26/07/22 08:57 PM
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So if 80% of women are fucking 20% of men that means 20% of men dont have to date to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:53 PM
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Meanwhile, no woman has to date to get sex Just to play devil's advocate here, but if women are getting sex without relationships, then men are too, because those women have to be having sex with somebody
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:38 PM
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Why not improve your wealth and join for benefits as well? Wouldn’t that make you more wealthy? Tax benefits plus two incomes. 2 reasons: (1) 50% of marriages end in divorce and 70% of those divorces are initiated by women and (2) divorce is the #1 most financial destructive thing that will happen to men on average. So you are basically betting 50% of your assets on marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:37 PM
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I went through that myself too haha. I went from fat to fit back to fat during covid. Everytime I see pictures of myself back when I was fit, I'm in disbelief on hot I look compared to right now (not to gas myself up or anything lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:50 PM
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Yea, like how many times have you seen people lose weight and they go from looking ugly to hot? Considering 30% of America is obese, and another 33% is overweight, that's like 66% of America that used to be at minimum okay-looking but probably pretty attractive but are now ugly because they're fat. Despite most people being fat today, humans haven't changed to find fat people attractive. So its entirely possible that there are fewer attractive people today
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:46 PM
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Probably
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:11 AM
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Oh yeah, sorry forgot that parameter. Sex twice a week. Okay that makes a lot more sense to me. But by that statistic, that means condoms are, even when taking into account wrong usage, 98.25 effective, and that .28% adds up over 104 times to equal 30%. But you're still right, it should be solely used if you really want to prevent unwanted pregnancy. This is a bad methode for determining pregnancy, lack of sex education strikes again. You're right I completely forgot about pregnancy tests lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:40 PM
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Yea, no, I am aware. As you said, I don't start off my first conversation trying to get them to go out with me. I'm just trying to be friends & have a conversation. Occasionally I might get their phone number or snap. But nothing indicates to me that they are interested in me at all. They never text me first, they never take the initiative, never compliment me, never ask how my day is - I'm the one who always has to do the heavy lifting. As I said, I've never seen a woman show interest in me, li…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:38 PM
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I know how to take cues, or what the RP calls indiciatpea of interest (IoI), and let me tell you, every woman Ive ever talked with has given the cue that she is interested in me as any more than a friend. I cant even remember the last time a woman gave me a compliment or tried to flirt with me. That last time anybody hit on me, it was a gay guy lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:32 PM
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So that means that 30 out of a 100 women aged 18-25 will get pregnant after using condoms as sole birth control, after a years time. This is such a weird statistic to me. Does that mean that someone who has sex 104 times a year and a person who has sex once a year have the same likelihood of getting pregnant if they use condoms? Like I'm sure the person who has sex with condoms 104 times is MUCH more likely to get pregnant than the person who had sex with a condom once. You thinking that condoms…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:28 PM
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get any hobbies The problem imo with trying to meet women through shared activities is that if it doesn't work out it gets very awkward & sometimes they can label you a creep, so I just never bother & just do the activity without trying to hit on women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:25 PM
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Bro just google "woman yung gravy tiktok" or see how women talk about harry styles or jack harlow. Obviously those are rich & famous & attractive men (aka, out of the ordinary) but clearly women have a burning desire for them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:23 PM
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Part of the issue is also that as an adult, it can be very hard to socialize in real life with people outside of the workplace. Meeting people takes effort, and finding friends, relationships or sexual partners comes after you meet people in some or the other capacity. This is me. I am terrified/unable of trying to flirt with women at bars & clubs, so I just hang out and drink with my guy friends. I met almost all my female friends through guys they were friend with, I have never made a woman fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:22 PM
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however a significant number do go through life events that give legitimacy to misanthropist veiws ( it's impossible to say it's all in their heads, we are essentially gaslighting them at that point) At least someone freakin acknowledges, people don't have that mindset unless they've been constantly rejected or had some really bad relationships. People who have a lot of success with sex and relationships are almost never going to believe RP / incel things
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:21 PM
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Morbid obesity & social anxiety
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:20 PM
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Just because you haven't found a compatible match YET doesn't make you undesirable. Out of curiosity, if no one wants to be with you, does that make you, by definition, undesirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:14 PM
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Recognize your value and don't expect to be treated like a queen if you ain't one. But mainly be loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:13 PM
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I agree, and that's why abortion should be a contraceptive of last resort if the primary one fails. But yea, its mostly people being irresponsible cuz they want to hit it raw & can't deal with the consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:12 PM
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What are the moms supposed to do if the dad takes off? Preferably not being in that situation in the first place. Use contraceptives until you are married and ready to have a baby (another reason for abortion to be legal, in the rare case contraceptives fail). Married men are much less likely to take off than unmarried men. Don't ever have raw sex with a man you aren't married to unless you have an IUD, you are on the pill, you plan to take Plan B, or he has a vasectomy. Don't ever do it. It's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:09 PM
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access to contraception I can literally buy a 30 pack of condoms at the store for $10. They are also available in every single gas station in American. It's not about acces.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:06 PM
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For that to happen we need better sex education in school and better access to contraceptives. Wrong. I guarantee you most people know about and how to use condoms, and what the pill is, or what plan B is, and what abortion is. They are just lazy and choose to fuck raw
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:05 PM
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Single moms happen when there is shit sex education and little access to birth control, contraceptives, etc. Proof? There are more single mothers now there than were back in the 1950s, despite widespread, cheap contraceptives and higher education rates. This is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:03 PM
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The lack of welfare in education and medication is the issue. People aren't being told how birth control works to the extend of being able to pick the best one for them, they can't afford the multiple doctors visits that it requires to get those lessons from a doctor and they can't afford reliable birth control. This is untrue. Almost everyone knows how to use condoms. Men are just very against using it, and commonly pressure women into letting them hit raw. And then when she gets pregnant (who …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:03 PM
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I prefer to call it "fatherlessness" than "single motherhood" since it makes it sound like the single mothers are primarily responsible for it, when, after all, it was the mans decision to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:01 PM
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60!????? Wtf how
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:52 PM
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True but on average can women go without sex or relationships longer than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:04 PM
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Child support is no replacement for a loving, present parent
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:59 PM
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Yea we know
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:58 PM
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Incredibly based. If only more people did this, men would be so much happier
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:51 PM
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I thought ur comment was that I have no excuse not to do my housework as a man since its not longer a huge amount of time consuming manual labor, and I replied that I do in fact do all my own housework atm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:42 PM
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I do all that stuff myself ... wtf u talking abt ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:27 PM
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I'm am not married, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I think you're correct on a lot of things. I think most married guys who actually love their partners are okay with their partner getting older. If they don't like their wife because she is older, then imo, that is indicative of other problems in the marriage that have already been hurting the relationship. I do agree that many guys behavior changes after they've gotten married since the "wooing" period is over. They stop being excitin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:51 PM
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I’ve never had a casual hookup with a guy who didn’t care and didn’t want me to orgasm. Good for you, but something like 50-60% of women don't orgasm on average during sex, while guys do almost 100% of the time. Seems like a problem for y'all that you keep hooking up with men who can't make you finish. I have no use for a LTR. I like men who like sex and like it to be mutually enjoyable. I don’t want to get to know someone. I don’t want the responsibility of being someone’s girlfriend just for g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:46 PM
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Prenups are rare for a reason. I agree everyone should get one, but what does it say about your trust in your partner, who you are supposed to love and promise to be together for the rest of your life, that you don't trust them enough & require a prenup. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:42 PM
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You’re the one that brought up women marrying dumb violent men right? No. I was simply saying why that was incorrect, as I said, it’s not the majority of men or relationships. I agree, but it still seems like people, if given the freedom to pick and choose marital partners, haven't been doing a great job at it, considering half of the time it doesn't last. Not advocating for forced marriages or arraigned marriages either, I believe there is a happy medium where people are free to pick and choose…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:36 PM
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Gaslighting How am I gaslighting you? So no, like I said, if women actually placed having orgasms as a priority, even less men would be having sex, which I’m a fan of. That was my point The fact that men need women to place importance in it, and it’s not already important to them, speaks volumes. These poor women out here sleeping with men with that mindset. Maybe if women placed higher importance on it, to the point they won't sleep with anybody unless they care about the woman's pleasure, thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:34 PM
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Wait you’re saying women that marry men have a 50% chance of being abused, so it a coin toss No, I am saying 50% of marriages end in divorce. I doubt that 50% of marriages end in divorce because of abuse. Could be infidelity. Could be irreconcilable differences. Could just be that they aren't in love anymore. Seems that violence accounts for 10% of that 50%, though "incompatibility" and "other" could also include physical/mental abuse and the person just didn't want to say
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:30 PM
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Right, but to add to this, doing house work was a lot more labor intensive before modern inventions. Imagine cleaning dirty laundry by hand, cooking home-cooked meals every single day, washing all dishes by hand because there is no dish washers, sweeping/dusting/mopping floors because there are no vacuum cleaners, etc. Doing the "house work" used to be a lot more time intensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:25 PM
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Okay, but to be fair to the person you replied to, women just transitioned from unpaid housework to paid professional work. They were still "working" in a sense, they were just doing housework like cooking, cleaning, laundry, etc., things that took a lot of time before a lot of modern inventions that reduced the amount of labor to do household chores. Imagine doing laundry before washing machines & dryers, cooking a home cooked meal every day because there are no fast food restaurants or pre-coo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:23 PM
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poliginy is what humans default to when there is a societal - cultural - religious enforcement of monogamy or other system So it seems to me, just a theory, that me created social norms so that they were living and dying without ever marrying or having sex. I guess this is the "patriarchy" in a sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:20 PM
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By "costs" a lot, they might mean divorce, since 50% of men are divorce, and divorce will be the single most financially destructive thing that happens to most people in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:19 PM
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Yeah the worst case scenario guys give on here — woman marries for financial security and stops having sex — was way more common back then. You say that, but the number of sex people are having on average is declining, and that is mostly due to a decline in marriage since statistically married people have more sex on average than single people according to the Institute for Family Studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:18 PM
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But it’s not the majority 50% of husbands aren't abusive, but 50% of marriages do end in divorce, and 70% of those divorces are initiated by women, so it looks like being free to choose whoever you want isn't working great when it comes to creating healthy, long-lasting marriages. To be fair, that "50%" statistic includes 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. marriages which have much higher rates of separation. Only 41% of first marriages end in divorce On top of that, the divorce rate is falling, but that is le…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:15 PM
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Honestly, idk what will happen, but I agree women are better at being single than men. There will probably be a rise in male deaths of despair. There will probably be more support for reactionary traditionalists who want to go back to the way things were (it's already happening). But I don't think we can go back, the cat's already out of the bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:04 PM
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Pandas overall are a fucked up species. I mean they're cute asl, but they're literally carnivores that have somehow evolved to only eat grass(bamboo), and because of the low-calorie density of grass, their reproductive cycle has been fucked up and they can't cope with environmental changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:00 PM
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If women vetted like I did and only had sex with men who were a fantastic lay, male sexlessness would increase even more. Maybe, though maybe it would encourage men to learn on their own how to pleasure a woman if woman made that really important when hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:58 PM
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Women still like sex. You say this, but I keep getting this vibe that a lot of women hate sex. Maybe it's because they have had a lot of poor sexual experiences where the man never made them cum, so they didn't enjoy it, and therefore the entire idea of sex is tarnished in their head as unenjoyable. I also think that they think that it's disgusting how desperate men can be for sex, and that is another major turn-off for them. IDK maybe a woman here can enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:57 PM
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I tend to agree with most of what you said, but I also think it's sad that those guys have basically entered into a negative spiral of hate and rejection. Get rejected by women --> ego hurt --> hate women --> get rejected by more women --> repeat. As someone struggling with this myself, it's hard to stay positive. I know I need to have a positive attitude, but rejection is never fun, and the easiest thing to do is to blame the other person and not yourself. Instead, men need to realize the probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:54 PM
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Mostly by cold approach although it wasn't called that back then. Ask anybody who is older how they met their SO. "Oh, I met her in a bar" "I met her in Spanish class" "I went up to her at orientation." "She came into the bakery where I worked and I said hi." (These are all real scenarios my family members have told me). It's sad because the growth of dating apps means that these completely normal methods of meeting people that people have used for thousands of years (go read Ovid The Art of Lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:46 PM
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There is probably some truth to this. The way I figure, ugly guys are bitter at women for always rejecting them, so they develop misogynistic beliefs & grow to hate women. On the other hand, while hot guys can get frustrated with women, they still feel validated by them because the women sleep with them. The women aren't an affront to their ego, the same way women hurt ugly men's egos by rejecting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:42 PM
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I'm pretty sure that misconception began based on the interactions some men had with women where the woman would say "Why do I keep dating all these jerks (chads/athletes), why can I just have a nice guy like you," or, "I think you're a nice guy, but I'm just not that into you." So a lot of people got the idea that nice guys finish last (debatable) and therefore, assholes finish first, and therefore ugly guys are "nice guys" and attractive guys are "assholes."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:40 PM
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I can agree with this, its pretty true
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 10:36 PM
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Okay, sure, but I was responding to a guy who said that hot women won't talk to ugly guys nor will they try to keep the conversation going
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 08:09 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 08:00 PM
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Its funny you said that bc I am an ugly fat guy and I literally talked to a 10/10 gorgeous latina last night and let her do most of the talking, and she kept the conversation going all on her own, so youre wrong. I literally chilled back and kicked my feet up on the railing of the porch too 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:31 PM
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Bro IDK if you talk to women, but I always let them do most of the talking. If you get them talking about things they like, they won't shut up about it. This goes for all people, not just women. It's conversational skills 101
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:07 PM
3

time is money
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:06 PM
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Elon isn't even beta bux though, because he is actually fucking & having children, and I have also heard that he doesn't even help with his baby momma's bills. Beta bux is when the girl settles down for a beta provider but still rarely, if ever has sex with him, but he still provides for her. So he is the epitome of alpha fucks
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:06 PM
0

Physical dangerous? Absolutely not. Can it change your psychologyy & have bad effects on your life? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:02 PM
2

I agree. Men should be taught casual sex is bad. Only have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:07 AM
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I can't & won't force women to adopt my values. To further answer your question, socialization is "the process of learning to behave in a way that is acceptable to society." How do we socialize with anybody in society? How do children in American society grow up to believe in certain values over others? There are several people and institutions that have a large effect on the social values of children. In the past, it was mainly parents & religious institutions. After 1900, school became a major…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:07 AM
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Depends on the woman. If she is just seeing you, I could wait for a few months, if she is actively talking to other men and/or gave it up easily before, then I won't wait for a long time, because its not okay imo that I have to wait, while she didn't make others wait. But if I see a fair standard applied, I am game, especially if she seems like a really good person
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:00 AM
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What is it with this constant telling people what to do. Why is telling someone what to do a bad thing? If you tell your kid not to touch the stove, because they'll get hurt, don't you think it's foolish for the kid to say "Fuck you, don't tell me what to do, I'm gonna do whatever I want!." The whole point is teaching people to avoid behaviors that will make them unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:59 AM
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collectively decided to only have sex monogamously. This reminds me of how communism basically said it would only work if every country in the world did it simultaneously, aka, world communism. It seems foolish to rely on universal action by billions of individuals. That being said, individual action to change your own life is fine and should be encouraged. However, such a massive social change would take a lot of work. How do teach millions of men to abandon their biological instincts & control…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:57 AM
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This is correct. TRP doesn't advocate for top-down solutions. It does talk about society-wide problems, but it offers individual solutions to those problems. Plus, top-down solutions to social issues almost never work, and usually not without violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:55 AM
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"Men going their own way" which is essentially men rejecting the idea that they need to work towards getting a GF or wife, and instead they should just focus on improving their own lives via other means, whether that is personal health, personal fufillment, getting a better job, etc & not bothering with dating women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:47 AM
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B: So what? Are women supposed to be forced to be attracted to men they're not attracted to? Are women supposed to be legally compelled to date men? Are women supposed to be obligated to agree to sex when they don't want to? R: Of course not, we merely want acknowledgement that it is a problem. It seems to me the solution is for women to change their standards, that the solution is a change in social norms, not a change in the individual rights of people. Acknowledgment of the issue is an import…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:46 AM
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U disagree? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 06:55 AM
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Well high value men and high value women are going to bring different things to the table. A high value women doesn't necessarily have to have a 6-figure job, a six-pack, and super high confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:52 AM
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Which is ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:49 AM
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Meanwhile he’s sitting there trying to impress you and the conversation feels acted-out and awkward because there’s an underlying “please like me sweet female!” dynamic there. It actually disgusts me when I can tell that a man is trying so hard to please me. I prefer it when I can tell that we both have expectations of each other versus him kissing the ground I walk on. "Where did all the good men go?"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:45 AM
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So, average and bellow average women should suddenly realize their “unworth” and not expect men to “woo” them? As if simply because they are not hot enough, they are not deserving of the same type of courtship other women get? Yeschad.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:42 AM
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I bring more to the table than just sex What do you bring to the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:40 AM
1

You think? How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:52 PM
5

What? Sorry I am having trouble understanding what you are asking
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:52 PM
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2 things: (1) Lose weight. I am 235lbs and 5'10". If I lost weight and was 170lbs, it would be a lot easier. I know this because I used to be 180 lbs a few years ago and dating was a LOT easier like it's actually insane how much easier it was. Girls were 1000% more willing to talk positively too me, give me their number, and go on dates. (2) Stop being anxious about talking to women. Dating is a numbers game, if I was more willing to go up to women at parties and bars and talk to them, I would h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:52 PM
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And I think that's good
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:49 PM
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Mainly for applying the un-equal standard imo. It's hypocritical to let some dude you just met at the bar hit it, and then make a guy who you think is relationship material wait for it. I think most guys would be okay if they knew that the woman made everyone wait and didn't give it up so easily for some random guy they met at the bar. Hell, I would respect that. That being said though if she still makes a guy wait, and he still pumps and dumps, I'm not gonna blame her. She tried to do her due d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:45 PM
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Why do you say that? Do you think I am voluntarily celibate? EDIT: To be fair, it is within my power to lose weight and stop being an unattractive obese man, its just gonna take a while LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:44 PM
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Pretty common sense something like 80% of the population is overweight, and most people are attracted to fit, healthy-weight people, it's not rocket science. That being said though, I don't know what race you are, but staying fit & not being fat is good advice for any person, man or woman, if they want to attracted more of the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:43 PM
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Off the top of my head - love, companionship, and a good time (in a non-sexual way, like having a fun time being around the other person)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:41 PM
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Imo, high confidence can override that. I find that the "authenticity" thing is really a code for "anxiety" and "neediness"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:38 PM
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I mean the issue is in what you just said. Men can put in effort. Lie. Manipulate and cheat to get sex. And they will do all of that just for sex. How much vetting can you do if someone is willing and able to look you in the eye and lie? Honestly, if all women applied an equal standard of vetting a guy for a month or two, it would improve things. No matter how manipulative or deceitful guys can be, leakage, where their true colors show, inevitably happens. You can't put on a face forever. Althou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:38 PM
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This is because women are told from a young age, usually by men, that other men will only want one thing, and that they will do/say anything to get it. This is pretty accurate imo, and I'm saying that as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:35 PM
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I mean, I've given up on dating, though I'm not average, I'm below average, and I live in an apt I pay for myself and have a full-time job. Kind of disingenuous to disparage all demoralized men as "losers in their moms basement" when many are just average men, living and working, who are fed up with the current dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:34 PM
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Out of curiosity, what does your flair mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:33 PM
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Just in my experience, I found the ugly girls had the same high standards and expectations of dating as the hot girls, both wanted a king who would treat them like a queen, so why not just go for the hot girls if the ugly ones aren't going to lower their standards ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:32 PM
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How does lots of partners equal commitment issues? First, having lots of premartial sex increases the odds of divorce. This study didn't analyze the effect of higher n-counts on the stability of regular relationships, but I think it's fair to conclude that if higher n-counts lead to higher divorce rates, where separation is much harder & almost always requires hefty lawyer fees, that it would also increase the rate of infidelity & split-ups in regular relationships, where you can simply walk awa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:31 PM
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There is a big difference between "me" and the "average person." If the average person has an opinion, that opinion holds more value in society than if an individual holds it. An individual holds no power on their own, but if the average person has that opinion, then it affects how society acts because 50% or more people have that opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:38 AM
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That may be true, but we are still different things. A woman is different from a man. End of story
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:11 AM
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Biologically? Apart from a few differences. Not much. Yea apart from the fact they are completely different and look different, there are no differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:00 AM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:48 AM
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Don't buy his shit, he's just entertaining to watch or listen to, but do not buy his hustler's university bullshit. I think he's a bit of a con artist. It's like watching Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible. It's fun but the real Tom Cruise is not like that, the character is fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:38 AM
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The best explanation I've head for this is that "bad boys" are exciting & stimulating while nice guys, while safe, are "boring." IDK my 2 cents
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:37 AM
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It's cope
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:35 AM
1

What's the blackpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:35 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:34 AM
1

Different standards should exist in the places where there are tangible differences. Men and women are tangibly different, are they not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:31 AM
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Screams loudly, "You're creepy!" Refuses to elaborate, leaves chadgirl.png
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:28 AM
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Both are bullshit, people should just value love /ssss
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:28 AM
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That's bc women use shame more than anything else to enforce the status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:26 AM
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Because value isn't innate, it's created by the judgment of other people. You may not like that, but that's the way it is. If everyone thinks you're a horrible person, no matter how much you think otherwise, you probably are a horrible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:24 AM
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It makes him desirable because he's been preselected so he's "safe." A guy who is a virgin past early college is a red-flag because no women has ever wanted to touch him, and that sets off warning bells in the woman's mind. You know how much they overthink things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:23 AM
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If you are upset that women want to have copious amounts of pre-marital sex without consequences with multiple men, you're misogynistic and hateful, how dare you judge me!! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:22 AM
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What's wrong with wanting to be the first?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:20 AM
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TL:DR - Because they don't like being shamed for what they've done and want to be able to be promiscuous without consequences. That's literally it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:20 AM
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No by “oppress” i was referring to stoning women for adultery and other forms of capital punishment. Okay that is too far. Even if what you’re saying is true, it’s no excuse to shame women by calling them “impure” “tainted” and “corrupted”. Why is there no excuse. Shame works. If society wants to discourage a certain behavior, it typically uses shame. If there was no shame in doing something, more people would do it. Shame by itself doesn't completely put an end to that behavior, but it does red…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:19 AM
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Correct. I would argue that the SMV of a women peaks when she has had a few relationships, maybe 1-3, and then rapidly goes down after that. Some men prefer virgins, but I think the average guy is fine if the woman is not a virgin, I mean that is very rare unless you're in high school. I would argue that 1-3 bodies are optimal. You want a girl who has had a couple of long-term relationships but isn't jumping from man to man. If she's stayed in a relationship for years, it means she's loyal, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:14 AM
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having sex makes a woman less valuable somehow Having "sex" in and of itself doesn't make women less valuable, its the number of sexual partners. If a woman has dated 2 guys, and had sex 500 times between the two of them, she has more value than a woman who has had sex 100 times each with 10 different guys, even though the total quantity of sex had is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:35 PM
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What is wrong with double standards for men and women? We are two different things after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:34 PM
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Its scientifically proven that more promiscuous women (and men) are less desirable partners. Even if you got rid of the "social construct," more promiscuous people are much, much more likely to cheat or get a divorce. There are also higher rates of STDs. Not something you want in a relationship. idea has been used to oppress women for our entire recorded history If by 'oppress' you mean to try to foster a culture where promiscuity is shamed and not idealized, then yes, that is the point, and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:32 PM
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I mean its scientifically proven 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:19 PM
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Because I'm the one who took it not anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:18 PM
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General reminder that poor people might have more kids bc they are less likely to use contraception perhaps and then be unable to afford Plan B or abortions ... just a theory
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:56 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:11 PM
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Bitching
/r/MensRights07/07/22 12:08 AM
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TBF, state universities aren't THAT woke. I'm a college student at a large state university, and you can avoid almost all of it if you stay away. I'm an engineering student, so the only time I ever encountered a professor who was "woke" per se was my 2 required history credits, where they basically only covered social justice in the US and not like actual US history. Besides that, I had no interaction with the woke crowd. All of my engineering / technical professors were professional and just co…
/r/MensRights30/06/22 02:09 AM
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Correct. Always conceal your intentions until you have enough evidence. If OP was to loudly proclaim "You're being sexist and I'm gonna sue!" he would be fired and lose his chance to collect more evidence.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 02:07 AM
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Good. This is legally the same as a man saying women should be submissive, they're too emotional for work, and then men are superior. What this HR lady is doing is creating a hostile work environment which the law is specifically designed to protect. Please seek legal aid and sue.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 02:06 AM
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Not the police, but an employer is more of a concern. Being creepy is not a crime, but you can be fired for it
/r/MensRights18/06/22 06:23 AM
0

True but women can serve in the military now
/r/MensRights17/06/22 06:33 AM
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Why is a career more important than having kids? Never understood this.
/r/MensRights17/06/22 04:31 AM
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Well it doesnt really matter bc we wont have a draft so this is a none issue. I would only care if it was during Vietnam and I was being drafted.
/r/MensRights17/06/22 04:09 AM
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Wrong. Every citizen who votes should register for the draft
/r/MensRights17/06/22 04:08 AM
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I agree u should do that to avoid suspicion
/r/MensRights16/06/22 06:34 AM
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Because women are much more likely to accuse men of sexual misconduct
/r/MensRights16/06/22 03:24 AM
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't. IMO, better to use the "Billy Graham Rule" and be safe than sorry. In this situation tho, claim you leave the door open for everybody for plausible deniability & also avoid accusations of sexism (if you leave the door open with anybody, then you can't be accused of treating women differently). If you absolutely must speak to a woman alone at work, you can always record the conversation secretly
/r/MensRights16/06/22 03:20 AM
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Glad that the frats stand by their actives. Too often they will simply drop the guy if he is accussed bc if it is fakse he will be known as the guy who was accussed of rape and many women will simply believe he did it and got lucky and wasnt charged or whatever
/r/PussyPassDenied09/06/22 12:05 AM
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No but prob bc our society views fucking as something men do to women and not the other way around (despite being untrue)
/r/PussyPassDenied09/06/22 12:02 AM
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Is what it is, I am not responsible for the actions of other men. If it affects me or mine ill take action but otherwise what do u want me to do? Irdgaf.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:54 AM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:45 AM
0

Women have married up since the dawn of time. All animals do it. Its not capitalism just maximizing offspring health
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:38 AM
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Ofc. In a perfect world the men and women would both be respectful. The women would say "No thank you" and the men would say something like "Sorry for bothering you, have a nice day".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:16 AM
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Yes I know this already. I still think its unfair I have to be damn near perfect while women are just born that way
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:25 AM
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Well its because I am simply not up to their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:08 AM
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At the end of the day people are making decisions to date or not date certain people based on certain criteria. Those with that criteria are deemed high value and those that dont are deemed low value. Value is usually determined by how much people want something. If there is only 1 of a certain item and the whole world wsnts it. That item is valuable. High value men are men who a lot of women want and low value men are men most if not all women do not want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:24 PM
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Wdym? Relationships as a man sound so much better than hookups to me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:45 PM
2

By earn that generosity you mean regular blowjobs right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:42 PM
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I dont use them bc they dont work for me. All my success has been in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:22 PM
7

Honestly i feel like if dating apps and social media were deleted that would by itself improve things tremendously
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:11 PM
2

Can you explain this further? How did consumer culture make dating a numbers game?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:06 PM
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It is completely valid and normal to be frustrated that women wont have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:04 PM
3

Women find most men unattractive, correct. They only rate between 1-5% of men as attractive usually
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:01 PM
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Most men proposition strangers thats called meeting new people lmfao 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 09:57 PM
2

This is a dumb statement bc literally every family member of mine first met bc of cold approaching. One went up and talked to her at the library. Another in a bakery. Another in class. Every single one. Its so weird that ladies are standoffish abt cold approaching when almost every person met their spouse that way. It may not be on the streert cold approaching but its going up and talking to them cold approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 09:56 PM
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Bc they want the hot, desirable men to approach. They do not want the ugly men to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 09:19 PM
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Why am I attracted to female friends? Their women. I am a man. I am pretty much attracted to every women I meet unless they are very ugly or obese. But almost every nirmal woman I would be DTF. Idk why. Just am.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:49 PM
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Unfortunately. And I think that happens bc they date a guy or two, get their heartbroken or get abused, and then say "fuck this"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:41 PM
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Why does the govt need to be involved in an agreement between two people who agree to live together "till death do us part" ? The only thing I can think of is shared assets but with divorce rates as high as they are there is no need for that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:21 PM
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The main thing I lack is being in shape. Im working on it and I dont blame women for not liking me, I dont like the way I look either. Im too fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:18 PM
1

There are always condoms bro
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 04:57 PM
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I can understand being careful around men to avoid dating violence, but there is little to no danger of pregnancy in casual sex in 2022 considering contraceptives are cheap & widely available. Getting pregnant in 2022 is entirely your own fault and 100% preventable. As for violent men, I understand that most men start seeming nice to most women and then turn ugly later when they "lock down the relationship." Women try to avoid this by noticing weird behaviors beforehand that would signal potenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 04:47 PM
2

Fair, although if women were so good at avoiding dangerous men when dating, then why are so many women abused, both psychologically and physically, by their boyfriends & husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 04:31 PM
1

Marriage should still be a religious institution, not a civil one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 04:30 PM
1

this is still the equivalent of wanting to buy a ferrari because everyone else is rocking one So women are ferrari's now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 04:30 PM
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Stoicism is not bad. Feminists just misunderstand it as "ignore your emotions" which is not what it is, but anyways.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/06/22 09:22 PM
2

Absolutely. You are the reason he didnt get sex. However, just he does not have the right to physicslly attack you or harass you or stalk you because of that though. He can get upset about it, but thats it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:37 AM
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Yes that is highly likely too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:36 AM
2

I mean, they're literally the ones saying no?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:23 AM
2

I can blame whoever I want LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:17 AM
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You haven’t had happiest times when single? Nope. Wdym Women are fundamentally wired to be picky. Sex has grave consequences for them - i.e. pregnancy. Contraception & sex w/o a risk of pregnancy has only been a thing for less than 100 years. Men on the other hand are wired to fuck as many women as possible to spread their genes. Testosterone makes us extremely, extremely horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:16 AM
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Like you won’t die if you don’t have sex Obviously. You also won't die if your family never speaks with you again, you lose your job, and your dog dies, all at once, but it is completely valid to be very upset and depressed about that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:15 AM
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If you’re not happy single you’re not gonna be happy in a relationship This is not true. The happiest times in my life were when I was in a loving relationship. The women I’ve met who have never dated aren’t suicidal by it Of course, because women are wired differently than men. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:11 AM
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maybe guys understand the subtle hint that if no woman has expressed any sort of interest in you up until the point you are 25. Maybe you are unattractive? LOL, I am well aware of this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:08 AM
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Bc you don’t need sex This is incorrect. You don't need it to "live" but it is a very important part of life. Men just aren't wired to be "content" not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:07 AM
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being single shouldn’t lead you to suicide If you are young and have had zero success and have been single all your life then thinking about suicide is completely valid - you feel like you are failing at life. Shouldn’t there be more encouragement of male friendship then? Male friendships can be great, but they are no replacement for sex. I have tons of male friends and get along with them great. They are not a replacement for sex or romantic relationships. I cannot be romantic or have sex with …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:03 AM
1

Got this one really smart average guy I know, was fucking considering suicide over how lonely he was. He was basically treated like shit constantly by women. It was sad. This is me on my bad days. I try to ignore sex & relationships because I have very little sex and whenever I see someone in a happy relationship it makes me sad & depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:02 AM
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If the modern standards of dating are so good, then why are so many more people unhappy & frustrated than they were in the old days?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:02 AM
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Honestly 11% isn't that bad tbh. I could consider that fairly normal. Its once you start getting into the 1/50 or 1/100 that I think standars get a little too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:59 PM
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No man has ever shown interest in me in my life barring dating apps lol. I find this hard to believe because every single female friend I have has said they are approached by guys constantly. That said, if this is true, that means something is wrong. Have you tried bathing & wearing deodorant?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:57 PM
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Casual sex creates unwanted pregnancies and spreads STDs. Not if you use protection, which is cheap and widely available. This is literally no excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:55 PM
1

Of just men or men and women bc if it’s both how does that indicate it’s hard for men to get LTR, isn’t it just hard in general? 50% of men ages 18-29 are single, while 31% of women ages 18-29 are single. By and large, younger women are choosing to date men over 29 more and more than men around their age. Because of this, more and more middle-aged women are single, because men their age are choosing to date down (having lost out on dating in their 20s because girls their age were dating older me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:53 PM
2

How common? At the moment, something like 50% of 18-29-year-olds are single, and 1/3 are virgins. That number used to be a lot smaller. Just one generation ago, 10% of 18-29-year-olds were virgins. ⁠Once they enter an LTR they discover that their GF settled and aren’t even that attracted to them in the first place How do they figure this out? How common is this? IDK how "common" this is, but you can figure it out over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:48 PM
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Even from an Alpha perspective, waiting for women to approach you is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 02:27 AM
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It's been that way for 2,000 years and it will continue to be that way. Here is what Ovid said: A mistress, though, doesn’t float down from the sky: You have to seek out the one who’s caught your eye. A hunter has to work, Know where to spread his stag-nets, in which glens boars lurk, A fowler’s familiar with copses, fishermen learn Which streams are the most rewarding, and you, if you yearn For a long-term affair, won’t have one till you’ve found The places where girls are thick on the ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:39 PM
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I mean, it does teach you how to manipulate women and people in general. But flirting is manipulation too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:20 PM
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Nothing. My parents never told me a damn thing. I dont even think I got the sex talk. I learned most of what I know fron reading, either books or online, and a little from talking with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 07:28 PM
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Yea LOL whenever I woman comes over I hide all the books about this shit. Women want men who just "get it," you're not allowed to try to get better at seduction. It's cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:11 PM
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Wont admit it? Ill admit it right now. Its a huge part. Thats why my self esteem is low. If no women wants me I must be worthless?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:36 AM
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Cant buy desire. Thats also what they want. To be desired
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:36 AM
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Basically
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 02:32 AM
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Its not love bombing, its just plain old manipulation & deception
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 02:19 AM
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I am mainly focused on the first year or 2. I was thinking about this earlier today. I am not opposed to both parents working, but one or both should stay home for that first year or two. Also, mothers are literally designed to care for the kid that first year. Men can't breastfeed. So while Mom is doing that, Dad can focus on making it easy around the house so she doesn't have to worry about those things & can focus on the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:26 AM
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I never said people should be forced to make decisions, I said they should receive proper guidance. It seems in America we don't actually focus too much on giving people guidance on dating, relationships, and living life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:24 AM
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People would rather learn the hard way
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:53 AM
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I agree 100% with what you are saying. No matter how frustrated and angry I feel, I cannot "force" women to give me sex. I think the only think for that would be some sort of mindfulness meditation. Or channelling your frustration into something productive or artistic. Whenever I am feeling angry or depressed, I love to write down my thoughts. More people should do this. I am also doing what you said - channeling my frustration into something productive, i.e., working out, or making an effort to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:47 AM
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Joe & Jane Average aren't exactly empowered now that we have stopped doing that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:42 AM
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There should be some sort of after school program for these kids like a summer camp where they can do team building exercises and work together. You explained athletic sports haha (I think every kid should be involved in sports, it helps you stay fit. I was fit until I stopped playing sports, then I ballooned up). I think more men should be encouraged to do Scouts & go outdoors more, Scouts is a great program. Can you explain what it is they feel so angry about and what is “pissing off” young me…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:41 AM
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Care to explain? (not be sarcastic, I am actually interested in this).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:36 AM
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If you are more interested in this topic, go check out Robert Greene's "The Art of Seduction." I am reading it right now, its very good.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:36 AM
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Guys having messy apartments is a problem regardless of dating, its a good habit every guy should have to make his bed & be clean, just to stay in a good routine. That's a good rule for life
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:35 AM
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Depends, though I will say no. I rarely if ever come across a stinky guy, unless I am working at a job site or playing sports. Also, the same dirty, stinky man would be attractive if he was fit & a working man bc he would be masculine. It's mainly stinky fat men they are grossed out by, but even if the fat guy wasn't stinky, put on deodorant, and wore cologne, they would still be disgusted by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:34 AM
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I guess so? Just because I desire a sexual, romantic relationship it doesn't mean I am going to cling on to whatever woman I kind find.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:30 AM
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At least in America, college-educated women are the least likely to shack up & marry because women make up 60% of college grads & don't want to date down. On top of that, their obsession with their career leads them to put dating on the backburner until they hit the wall and they become cat ladies medicated on anti-depressants. Even though Chad the Plumber might be making bank, these college-educated women view him as beneath them because he is a lowly plumber while she has a degree from Vanderb…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:27 AM
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We should teach them too. The whole system should. Parents, media, schools, etc. In our current society, there isn't much of an effort to shape the beliefs of young people. For some reason, we mistakenly believe that the best way to do things is to let people figure things out on their own, which is wrong. People need proper guidance & role models
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:26 AM
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I think whether they were incels is irrelevant. I disagree. I don't think inceldom was the cause of their loner behavior or the shootings; rather, I instead their inceldom was one of many symptoms of another overarching problem they had that also led to social isolation & school shootings. They were failed by the system What system? I am not sure what you are talking about. We do not have a system for preventing this kind of behavior. There is no system. There is only a system to punish people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:20 AM
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No. Thats not what I said. Both shooters did not shoot up those places because of women. The Buffalo shooter said it because of racism, idk why Ramos shot up the school. However, I highly suspect they were incels. They can be incels and also shoot up places for nonincel related reasons. Its like you can be a Muslim but then shoot up a place for reasons besides Islam. There is a difference between unaware (blue pilled) incels and aware (redpilled) incels. By definition, any man who wants to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:35 PM
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Well thats what Im saying bro. Shes got rules for the beta just to be acceptable but will do anything for chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:34 PM
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See, there it is. Somehow, we have made raising kids into a horrible chore that will make your life "pretty empty" while slaving away in an office for some mega-corp is "inspiring" and "empowering." Motherhood and child-rearing should be celebrated. Being a stay-at-home mom should not be shunned (a discussion for another day) Would you rather spend your life building someone else's success or raising a family & building a household? The only reason I work a job is so I can afford to live & affor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:16 PM
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Based on their history. Take the Uvalde shooter for example. He was a bullied loner who was known to be creepy to girls. Classic incel. The Buffalo shooter was also known to be creepy to girls and spent most of his free time on 4chan. Furthermore, he wrote a 180 page manifesto about white replacement. Oftentimes, these types of insecurities & hatred of other races & wanting to regulate relationships comes from lack of success in the dating market. You can be an incel w/o talking about it all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:12 PM
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Yea just to build on this 80% of gun violence is caused by 18-20-year-old men. Imagine if that demographic gets even more violent
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:08 PM
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Incel men aren’t going to cause the collapse of society. But they do cause an increasing number of violent mass shootings. The Uvalde shooter was an incel. The Buffalo shooter was an incel. Although they never expressed being an incel, by definition, they were incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:07 PM
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60k is average LOL I don't think that is a woman's ideal for a man. Most want 6 figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:06 PM
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Seems like that little social experiment hasn't worked out too good for either sex. Capitalists tricked women into wage slavery, when they could have just stayed at home and spent their lives working to build a family instead of working for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:05 PM
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Notice how women always list all these requirements for men and men's requirements for women are simply "isn't fat"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:04 PM
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Yea I do think people were happier in the past. Ignorance is bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:03 PM
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Friends and family are great but they are not replacements for a sexual, romantic relationship in the slightest, at least for me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:02 PM
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You have to understand women communicate covertly. They very rarely overtly say what they mean. "He's a nice guy" means "I'm not interested" "I just am not ready for a relationship" means "I don't want to date you" "Let's take a break" means "This isn't working out and I want to break up", "I'm not looking for anything right now" means "the right guy just hasn't come along yet, all the men I know are unacceptable" "
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:01 PM
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Women will say men just need to work harder. That is a big frustration with men. We have to be perfect to be acceptable. We have to be charismastic, fit, have a great job (more than $100k), a car, stable life, mature, etc. And while we want to have all those things regardless of women, many men don't have those things and still work hard. We have to have all this shit just to be "the bare minimum," meanwhile if a woman has a vagina and isn't fat she is acceptable to most men. This is in essence …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:58 PM
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Yes, precisely. Through DNA analysis we have discovered that after humans transitioned from hunter gatherers to agriculture, the number of men reproducing fell dramatically while the number of women reproducing stayed the same. For every 1 man who reproduced, 17 women reproduced on average. This indicates that once people began to accumulate wealth due to being stationary and not being constrained to only what they could carry, warlords began to build larger and larger harems of women. When all …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:53 PM
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Idk. Most women I know would not be okay with that. They all view themselves as "qweens" why would they settle for a man who is cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:50 PM
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Well yea we cuz we know how women are. Women are hypergamous. Men are in constant competition with each other. Marriage was invented to basically lock down women for life to 1 sexual partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:48 PM
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A lot of women just don't want men anymore now that we have options. Men essentially trapped women into relationships in the past. I have a theory that we went through this before and men created social norms to prevent it from happening again which have broken down because of the rise of female liberation movements. Men basically realized that women, when left alone to choose, are way to powerful, and the men came together to fix it with things like purity culture & arranged marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:47 PM
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I think the women are happy with it, but the men are very upset. If you look at the research, most single women are single voluntarily, while most single men are looking but can't find anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:44 PM
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women admit this is a problem. Have you met a woman before
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:42 PM
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No, it says 51% of men 18-29 are single, but only 31% of all adults are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:41 PM
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If you between 18-23, money doesn't really matter a whole lot to women because everyone is still in college. Granted, it is nice, but you don't have to be rich. They also don't expect as much because they are also poor. It's only once they graduate and start earning a real salary that their wealth expectations increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:40 PM
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As much as RP says "women would rather share a high-value man" I don't think that is true. Almost every woman I know would not continue dating a man who is sleeping with other women. What is most likely happening is that the women think they are seeing the HVM exclusively, but aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:38 PM
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There are 2 reasons for this (a) Older guys(not in the 18-29 age bracket) dating younger women, which is very common, and (b) one guy with multiple girls who don't know. Like the side piece thinks shes the main GF but isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:37 PM
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That sounds awesome, glad it worked out!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:58 PM
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He insisted on waiting? Thats fascinating. Was he Christian or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:48 PM
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How did guys 3 and 4 go about kissing u so soon after they met you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:54 AM
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Shes also 36. A little late to be having kids.
/r/MensRights30/05/22 08:07 AM
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This is top tier dating advice right here
/r/MensRights30/05/22 08:07 AM
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Yea some woman was complaining that she had a traumatic experience and no longer gives blownjobs. Fine. Im not entitled to a blowjob. Youre not entitled to marriage either. Actions have consequences
/r/MensRights30/05/22 08:06 AM
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Idk but Id do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:59 AM
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Thats why I posted it LOL some of these fundamental questions are never asked and never answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:13 AM
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I like phone calls too but it feels so weird in 2022 to call some random chick like who does that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:10 AM
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LOL yea this 100%. Texting with a woman who keeps the conversation going vs one that is a dry texter is night and day. It's like pulling teeth for the 2nd one, I barely have to work for the first one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:09 AM
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I mean you just played a jedi mind trick on them. They are so used to guys texting back quickly that the one guy who doesn't is enticing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:09 AM
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Yea I pretty much figured this out too. It's not 1986. You're phone isn't all the wall. You literally CARRY IT AROUND WITH YOU ALL DAY! You fucking SLEEP with it lmao. You saw my text, you just didn't want to text back. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:08 AM
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Yes, we see women as things to be conquered. Most women are standoffish about men they just meet. They throw up barriers and try to push him away. To seduce her is exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:12 PM
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its not all the same pussy. Have you see pussies? They are all very different
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:10 PM
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Yea pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:08 PM
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Absolute facts. A woman wanting to have sex confirms your greatness, your manhood. Denial of sex is emasculating to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:08 PM
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If someone wants something really badly, they will do anything to get it. If another person can provide them with that thing, then the provider will have power. Almost every guy ravishingly desires sex. It is an insatiable hunger. It comes from within. It is very hard to subdue and ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:06 PM
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Idk. Havent finished. It should come with a warning haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:32 PM
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What does that mean? Sorry. Nevermind, comment deleted
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:34 AM
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I should look into that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:34 AM
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I have heard of it. I should watch the movie. I watched King of Kings and I loved it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:34 AM
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I am at rock bottom thats why I am reading it. I have just failed out of college, I have no GF, I just lost the job I love (because it was at the university I studied at I had to be a student), and my dog is about to die(she has cancer). I am barely hanging on rn. Its so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:33 AM
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Im not him but my guess is that he was thinking of the love his wife had for him. I literally got butterflies reading it because I emphasized with him. I could feel his feelings when he talked about imagining his wife when he was beinf beaten or when he was walking in the snow barefoot oe marching in the snow. It was an escape from the horror.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:31 AM
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Still reading the book!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:26 AM
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Ive never seen ben hur i thought it was abt jesus lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:18 AM
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haha, yea, PPD isn't the best for this kind of thing. I am just so frustrated, upset, and angry. I want to be loved so bad. I have never been loved by another woman. I'm depressed about it. I feel like I am missing out. I see cute couples my age and say to myself "Why can't I have that." It's so frustrating. Why am I like this? Why don't women like me? Why am I unlovable? I just want a woman my age to love me, man. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:08 AM
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I think the most important thing to have is a sense of purpose if you want to feel complete. That is actually what Frankl says in his book, as well as what Seneca said in "Letters from a Stoic."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:02 AM
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I just want a woman to love me man... it seems impossible, it's never happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:57 AM
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To be fair, Ben-Hur is adapted from non-fiction. Jesus did exist and was crucified. Was he the messiah and God's son? That is up for debate, but he did exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:56 AM
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Right. I try to channel my anger intro productive things like working out and making positive change and so far it has been working. Wallowing in self-pity makes you feel good but it doesn't do anything to improve your situation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:53 AM
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I feel like most people experience love at least once, even if it is unreciprocated
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:53 AM
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I love my country (America). I love my family. I do love my career. But deep down I feel something is missing. I have been in love before, but it wasn't reciprocated. I want it so bad. I want to bed loved by a woman. So badly. It's never happened. (Except Mom, but that doesn't count)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:23 AM
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Facts, though me and God have a difficult relationship right now to be honest. God give me strength, cmon man
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:22 AM
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Damn, this really speaks to me. I am motivating myself with anger right now, anger at myself, anger at others, and anger at everything. I am sick and tired of being sick and tired. I am using that anger to go work out and better myself. If I am feeling tired and lazy, I go look at the success of my friends in their romantic lives and professions and go work harder. I am at the point where I will look at amateur porn and get so angry that I have never had sex or experienced love and go do somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:20 AM
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False. Love was evolution way for parents to stay together and raise better children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:17 AM
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Short answer: coping with trauma. Sex makes them feel better than they ever have before, so that is why they get addicted to it (and to the men who give it to them, no matter how bad those men are)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 04:13 AM
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Hit the nail on the head my boy. If I can't get sex by being who I am, I will fake who I am
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:55 AM
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I dont know what youre talking about dude men would never say that youre just crazy /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:32 AM
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Very good comment. But it often happens that a woman will pick a really good looking piece of bread that happens to be poisoned insyead of a normal looking piece of bread because she only wants the best. After picking the good looking bread and getting food poisoning a few times she gets jaded and decides to stop eating bread altogether no matter how good it looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:23 AM
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In regards to fitness, Europeans tend to have less fast food and walk more, hence their better fitness. Americans are pumped full of processed foods on the regular and travel mostly by car. Extremely muscular people are a reaction to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:10 AM
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I'm only turned on sexually by people I like, trust and admire. This is fascinating to me. I assume you are a woman. As a man, I can literally be turned on by a woman within .5 seconds of seeing her and get butterflies in my stomach.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:01 PM
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Saving this thread because there are a lot of good descriptions of good relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:00 PM
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Beautifully said
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:58 PM
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Generally speaking most people don’t get married and have kids assuming they are going to wind up divorced. This sounds obvious asl, but I can assure you that every single engaged couple does not think they will get divorced, yet 50% will.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:57 PM
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but if all your ex-partners are narcissists, that says something about you. It's probably because narcissism is highly correlated with confidence which women find attractive. People who are the opposite of narcissists, people-pleasers, come off as insecure and weak to most women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:56 PM
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It's like how women all of a sudden learned about "gaslighting, love bombing, & trauma dumping" and now use those things to describe every ex. Like no Becky, you're just bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:55 PM
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One of the problems with this, IMO, is that people leave at the very first obstacle. Obviously, there are some major red flags & warning signs that should trigger a breakup, for example, toxic and controlling behavior, constant belittling, etc., but many people give up after minor setbacks which are part of every relationship. Like, oh, we had an argument where all we did was get mad at each other (nothing physical), time to abandon ship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:55 PM
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There is a difference between washing your dick regularely and shaving it down to the skin. The latter wasnt very common until very recently. Also on the flip side ladies flip out when men tell them to shave their armpits and pussies because its "natural". Nice double standards
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:50 PM
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Those last two things are related. If u give her mind blowing orgasms and head she is more willing to give u head too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:45 PM
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okay
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:31 PM
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I mean, if your man's hygiene down there is bad, just tell him. If you tell a man "clean your dick & shave it and I'll give you a blowjob" he'll do it lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:31 PM
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Add sexual acts to the list of things women should never, ever reveal to insecure partners. I mean, this is exactly what I want. I don't want my GF telling me about past sexual escapades with other men. It's just gross. I know she has done it, and I'll accept that, but I don't want to hear the details.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:30 PM
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holy shit that's fucked can't believe she admitted that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:29 PM
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Calm down. Sex requires two parties to consent. If they both want to fuck raw, then they both have to consent to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:27 PM
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Nope, plus he does it because its feminine he likes feminine stuff
/r/MensRights27/05/22 02:38 PM
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Evidence? Its not 10,000BC anymore people have knives and guns. A woman can easily shoot and kill someone.Its not that hard to stab someone. And thats just physical violence. Verbal abuse can be just as traumatizing. Brute strength isnt always the deciding factor in a fight. The facts show that women in romantic relationships are far more violent and unstable than couples in a hetero relationship. So youre statement that homosexual relationships would be better has been proven false. Simple logi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:41 AM
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But theres more violence ....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:38 AM
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U do realize lesbian couples have higher rates of DV than straight couples?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:37 AM
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Jesus Christ we fucked up if this is how women think in 2022
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:26 AM
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Just because you are a man, doesnt mean you are masculine. Not how it works. James Charles wears makeup and dresses like a girl. He does not act masculine. So despite being a man, he cannot be described as masculine. Therefore just because you are a man, it does not mean tou are masculine. Simple logic.
/r/MensRights27/05/22 07:14 AM
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Not how it works bro. If masculinity is "everything and anything you want it to be" then there is no definition. There is no way to differentiate between masculine and not masculine which is absurd. Dont you get it ?
/r/MensRights27/05/22 07:06 AM
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Tactical team was already about to break in so he went to another wing and started evacuating students. The heroism is that he had no obligation to go. It was his day off. He was getting a haircut and got a text abt the shooting so he immediately drove to the school and went in unlike the SWAT team outside.
/r/MensRights27/05/22 05:21 AM
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Facts, absolutely.
/r/MensRights27/05/22 04:02 AM
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First of all dont put words in my mouth.
/r/MensRights27/05/22 03:12 AM
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How about I do anyways. Men should be brave. Men shouldn't be cowards. If masculinity cant be defined, then there is no such thing as masculinity. If you describe masculinity as X,Y,Z then by defintion people who have X,Y,Z are masculine and people who don't have X,Y,Z arent masculine. Simple as.
/r/MensRights27/05/22 03:07 AM
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Lmaoooo
/r/MensRights27/05/22 02:21 AM
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No, he didn't, he lived. He had courage & saved his child in the face of great danger. That is a virtue that all men should have.
/r/MensRights27/05/22 02:12 AM
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Well, just to let you know, I did in fact drop her because she was too unstable because of her traumatic past. I don't fault her for it, but I wasn't willing to take on a broken girl like that. As men, we are expected to have our shit together. Yup, we are, and we can't show it. Women always ask us to show our emotions and then drop us when we cry in front of them. I've just accepted this is reality, and I am going to find ways to dea with any emotional instability & trauma that happens in my fu…
/r/MensRights27/05/22 01:21 AM
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Thats a very long and convulated way to tell me I should have raped her 😐 No the reason she lost it was because she was a deeply broken traumatized girl who went from comfortable to scared for reasons I cant explain and said yes to everything up until sex. Boggles my mind but thats what happened.
/r/MensRights26/05/22 10:26 PM
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Fuckkkk I was in this situation once. I was spooning naked with her but she said no to sex so we just slept naked. Confused the hell out of me tbh.
/r/MensRights26/05/22 10:00 PM
2

Okay, true
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:31 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:20 PM
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I also think men just express their feelings differently. Everyone says men need to be more like women and cry more and talk about their emotions but how do we know that actually works? Why do men need to be more like women? Isnt it possible we have better ways of coping that work for us?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:34 PM
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Sure, most men are completely normal and don't murder people. Still doesn't discount the fact that most violent crimes are committed by men, and not women, and that should be studied.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:10 PM
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Yea, we know. If you're an average guy, you have to put in years of work just to be acceptable to a woman who was born that way. That's the sexual marketplace and female hypergamy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:55 PM
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I have heard (either from internet or tv can't remember) someone congratulating the guy for losing their virginity, because the guy became a man by losing it. So sex for men could also be seen as a rite of passage where a boy becomes a man. So part of the frustration could be because the guys don't see themselves as men just because they are virgins. A lot of women say we should change these social norms, but I don't think they ever will. 100,000 years of human history and this is how it has bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:50 PM
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I would give you gold but I am not sending Reddit my money LOL. This is PRECISELY why prostitution doesn't fix incels. We want women who want to have sex with us because they like us, not because they paid them. Getting a prostitute is akin to "selling out"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:49 PM
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One compounding variable in that could have been the Internet. In the past, it was much harder to be socially isolated. Today, it is much easier to stay in your house, surf the Internet, play video games, and not be bored. In the past you would get bored pretty easily and most people would go out and do something, anything, and therefore interact with other people. I think that is a big variable that has changed between now and the past. The Buffalo shooter notoriously got radicalized on the Int…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:48 PM
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Also a lack of sex. I can't think of a shooter who was able to get laid frequently. ALmost all were perpeutally bad with women and complete virgins. Sex is a naturally studied stress-reliever, men who go wthout it get more frustrated overtime. True, but this is a chicken-and-egg problem. Where they angry because they had no sex, or did they not have sex because they were angry, scary misogynists? The answer is likely both. However, a New York Times investigation found that the common denominator…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:46 PM
1

There is a high likelihood that the Uvalde shooter was an incel, but he just didn't know what that was.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:44 PM
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Unlike rice farmers in Vietnam, American conservatives have a lot more to lose from engaging in an insurgency. The VC were already living in poverty. American gun-nuts live comfortably in suburbs and have easy access to food and medication. This is all LARPing on a massive scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:43 PM
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Conservatives want muh guns to fight a hypothetical tyrannical government The funniest thing about this is that they also believe the current government is illegitimate and rigged the 2020 election, and yet they are still doing nothing. So clearly "bearing arms" did not stop what they believe is a tyrannical government LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:42 PM
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Women seem to be more content not having sex than men are. Even if they are equally distressed from lack of sex, men are much more violent by nature (downvote me all you want, but it's true, something like 90% of murders are committed by men).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:41 PM
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If you suggest that men are upset because they aren't getting sex, the ladies will get mad and say "men aren't entitled to sex." Of course not, but we need to find a way to prevent angry, sexually-frustrated men from committing acts of mass violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:40 PM
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If we continue this metaphor of food = sex, then stale bread would mean I at least have access to bad sex, which I do not. Believe me, I have tried. I've tried lowering my standards, but it didn't work. People think fat / ugly girls are "easier" than attractive girls, in reality, they aren't. I also can't buy bread (prostitutes) cuz I am too poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:33 PM
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As I just said its ridiculous to complain abot your food when someone is starving and has none. At least you have food bro
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:18 AM
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Metaphor: Men are starving in the desert with no food at all, except maybe some stale bread. Women have an entire buffet laid out in front of them, but go through each dish and refuse to eat for certain reasons. Then they claim there is nothing to eat. To the man who has nothing except stale bread, the woman complaining looks ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:52 PM
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I bet gilbert is a closested incel bc his voice is so unsexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:08 PM
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Good luck even catching a woman looking up from her phone let alone looking in your direction, lol. LOL, if you just say "Hey" to a woman who is looking at her phone she will look up at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:07 PM
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If you are starting with the mindset that you're "rock stupid" you have already lost my boy. Don't have a losing mindset. Have a winning mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:06 PM
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I mean, at the end of the day, the thing men desire most is pussy. The thing men desire most is a HVM. There is a lot more humans with pussies than there are high-value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:04 PM
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Simple, people are settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:03 PM
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Okay, I agree. But if you want to learn how to flirt with women, and you are afraid of that, learn how to chat without fear is step #1
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:02 PM
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Highly underrated comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:52 PM
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Right, but they are a building block bro. You can't learn Calculus without pre-calc. You can learn pre-calc without algebra. You can learn algebra without basic arithmatic. I am telling you guys you need to master arithmetic before you can master calculus and you're saying learning arithmetic won't help you with calculus problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:51 PM
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Bro, you're missig the point. You have to learn to walk before you can run. If you're uncomfortable simply talking to women with no intention of dating, then you are going to crash and burn at flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:50 PM
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Flirting isn't just trying to get a woman to fuck you after you just met. It's escalation. You are communicating to her your intent that you want to be more than friends. But you are doing it covertly. Insted of saying "I like you and I want to fuck you," you are subtly letting her figure it out. It's like a game.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:50 PM
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Best comment on this post. This is the point I am trying to make. If you are uncomfortable just TALKING to women, then how the hell are you supposed to get comfortable flirting with them. You gotta get comfortable doing the first thing before doing the 2nd.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:49 PM
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Honestly, not a bad strategy, and you also wont be as intimidated bc she isnt super hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:46 PM
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Wait you mean to tell me women are human beings??? 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:07 AM
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Same, I am working on it too. This was more for guys with anxiety about talking to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:09 AM
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Okay, obviously small talk does not lead to fucking. I know that. I am working on this too. You gotta banter & flirt. But if you are anxious about approaching women, you can start with small talk & having conversations. In psychology, if you have a phobia they do a thing called "exposure therapy." This is exactly this. Mark Manson also talked about it in "Models." If you don't want to jump right in, start small and just try to have conversations and then work up to flirtatious banter & getting d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:09 AM
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Unironically, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:53 PM
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To answer youre question even if you dont like women there is only 1 way to get pussy, by talking to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:02 PM
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True, but if ur afraid of talking to women, small talk is a good first step to be more comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:01 PM
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Lmao yea cuz they want everything and more is never enough. Haha checkout eddie murphys standuo called RAW
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:06 PM
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Yea in that case you might be shit out of luck my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:23 PM
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Counter argument: most people are willing to talk to you to just make small talk and if you dont go into the interaction trying to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:15 PM
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There is nothing wrong with wanting to fuck women. On the same token most women are creeped out when random men approach them and want to fuck them. Its a Catch 22
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:12 PM
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You do actually have to play a mind trick on yourself. You have to change your mindset. Mindset determines a lot about our behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:58 PM
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Absolutely. After I came out of lockdown, I felt like I had a lot of trouble getting back into socializing. I am usually pretty good at socializing and holding a conversation, but after lockdown, everything felt a little weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:57 PM
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If you're ripped but are still scared of talking to women, you won't get laid. Hitting the gym CAN help you confidence too, and you should definitely hit the gym no matter what. But the gym alone doesn't get you laid. It's gym + talking to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:56 PM
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Yup, absolutely true. Women have a 6th sense for if you want to fuck them or not. If they don't think you do, they get more comfortable around you and will tell you things they otherwise wouldn't tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:54 PM
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I hope so too bro. Only time will tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:53 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:53 PM
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Thats fair, apologies. Comment deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:39 PM
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pissed off that she’ll have sex with loads of people but not him. Honestly, this is very true, especially in my case as a virgin. I hate how other people can get sex so easily but it's impossible for me. It's very frustrating. I've been trying less and less to post on here / wallow in my depression and instead channel that frustration & anger into working out, which has been working. If I don't want to go out and exercise, I just think about how I'm still a virgin & all the girls I like are prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:31 PM
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I use this forum as a vehicle to express my frustrations because most people around me are blue-pilled and would be extremely put-off if I tried to talk like I do on here. I pretend to be blue-pilled. Occasionally I have asked my guys friends, many of whom are successful with women, about dating, but they usually just give me generic blue-pill advice. Then again, almost all of them are either normal weight or very fit, while I am obese, so I don't think any dating advice to me besides "lose weig…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:30 PM
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Bro you gotta work on your game
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:25 PM
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I don't think a woman will pepper spray you for talking to her in public, her first reaction will 99.999% of the time will just be to tell you know, at worst, "fuck off." Pepper spraying someone for saying "hey" is assault. You would have to be the worst pick up artist in history to get pepper sprayed lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:24 PM
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Niggalations 1:15
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:23 PM
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Still astounding that ugliness can make you 1000% scarier to a woman, increase her enjoyment by 2700%, and increase her chances of a good reaction by 250%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:23 PM
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This is an aside but dudes need to stop asking girls if they have a BF in the cold approach. Theyll tell you if they dont like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:21 PM
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Honestly you would be surprised. I do think its better overall to change your mindset, but I have plenty of women I am platonically friends with and they dont see it, mainly bc I dont talk about it. I dont talk about RP or anything with them. I dont make sexist comments. I just nod my head and agreem
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:01 PM
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I guess. Irl I try to always treat people with respect because you gotta treat people how you want to be treated. I try to keep my resentment and frustration to myself bc no one likes complainers and criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:56 PM
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This is always what women say but the vast majority of guys can past this test with flying colors as long as they dont say anything objectifying or misogynistic. And then they let dudes hit who treat women like objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:48 PM
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Based Gilbert???
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:46 PM
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Yes. If you can make her laugh you can laugh her right into bed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:45 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 02:46 PM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:15 PM
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Yes chad
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:58 PM
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Tbh it matters less if its porn than if its an ex, imo. Either way, honestly, I said "prefer" not "required", can win them all. But on top of that 90% of people who watch porn are guys
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:45 PM
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Tbh if she looks at porn Im not gonna care cuz I also look at that shit. The anti porn stance in a relationship is mostly a female thing cuz theyre insecure. You never hear men talking about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:37 PM
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Honestly thats facts, more so in marriage because of a high cost of leaving vs in a relationship where u can just jump ship immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:36 PM
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Interesting, I will think about this, this is honestly a good response tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 07:48 AM
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You would think ... I think that is just a stereotype a lot of the white men make on this sub. But actually according to Pew Research young black men are the most single of young Americans. It is ALSO possible tho that many of them are just hooking up and not "in a relationship" but I have heard a lot of shit about how bad black women are and how they don't want to fuck black guys unless they are "hood" (Black Chads)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:46 AM
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1 - because I still believe sex is something that should only be shared between intimate, romantic partners, not random dudes, and knowing she did this with another man gives me a major ick, even thinking about it grosses me out and reduces my attraction to her. All of a sudden I'm thinking "Goddam some other penis has been in here omg" I just don't want to think of her fucking another dude. Even if she has only been with 1 or 2 guys, I do not want to hear about it just don't tell me. I know you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:41 AM
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I want to jump on this post to ask .... how common is the redpill in the black community ? I feel like the black men have it the worst since they have the highest percentage of single men under 29 - 50%
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:10 AM
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Idk bro at this point irdc my bar is on the floor since my phone is so dry I would take anything, even sloppy seconds
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:28 AM
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Some truth to that tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:24 AM
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Being freaky in bed does not mean she is a slut. I thought of this yesterday, but a girl having sex 1000 times with 1 guy over 5 years is, in my opinion, less slutty than a girl who had sex 100 times with 50 different men over 5 years. The first is actually exactly what we want - a loyal girl with a high sex drive, while the 2nd girl has shown through her actions that she can't settle down and is likely to cheat. TBH, that is where all slut shaming originates from - its a defensive against futur…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:19 AM
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Idk why any man would be scared off by a woman who is wild in bed ... that's literally every man's dream LOL. I think if women want to avoid being slut shamed the easiest way to do that would be to keep the n-count low and not dress like a slut. Honestly, if a woman does those 2 things, most guys will not think she is a slut. I'm not saying women need to be wearing extremely modest outfits, no, just don't dress like Maddie from Euphoria when she was at the fair
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:18 AM
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The funny thing that got me is that she said that when she is in a relationship, she likes to tone down her sexuality. She said she doesn't like to get too wild or crazy because she doesn't want her partner to judge her for her sexual side. That made me laugh, because most men want their woman to have a wild side with them when it comes to sex. This is extremely ironic to me. One of the best ways to keep your man happy is to have lots of awesome sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:15 AM
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I think the RP is largely silent on same sex relationships because the RP came about as a result of male sexual frustration, and it seems like LGBT people, especially with modern OLD apps, have a much easier time finding sexual partners and thus dont worry about this kind of thing. Same reason why sexully successful men dont know or care about the RP. They arent frustrated and unable to find sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 12:48 AM
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"If we broke up, I'd have millions of men begging to serve me. You'd have practically nothing". Even as a man, this is fundamentally true. Dick is plentiful. We men have made it so easy for women that we have become worthless because we are always available.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:29 PM
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No woman has ever failed to "treat me as a person," but there is definitely this level of anxiety and fear women have around men they don't know. They see you as a potential threat until they get to know you ( and even then)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:27 PM
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Orrr hear me out ... man up and cold approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:02 AM
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Okay bro. You do you. The problem with going thru life always worried abt what others think is yoh live in a cage constructed by your own fears. Youll never do or accomplish anything. Learn small talk bro. If you want to cold approach dont even try to flirt you just start by making small talk with no other intent than to try to have a conversation. Its reallt easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:02 AM
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Average femcel
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:41 AM
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We already do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:37 AM
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Lmao why the fuck would you let angry women determine who and who cannot be in your bar? Most of them arent even buying anything theyre getting the dudes to by drinks for them 🤣🤣🤣 god bars and clubs are some of the most misandrist places on Earth from different entry fees to poor treatment of men etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:25 AM
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OLD doesnt work for average men and what happens when you run out of mutuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:18 AM
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Thats just too bad ¯_(ツ)_/¯ i cant control how women feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:18 AM
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Why is there "pressure" of a romantic outcome?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:16 AM
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You can approach a woman anywhere you want. There is no law that says you cannot ask random women out
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:16 AM
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Its not harassement LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:15 AM
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You dont need consent to talk to someone LOL. You can talk to anyone you want. Its best if you leave if they tell you to fuck off tho. I feel like ppl who write like this are socially inept Gen Zers who have no idea how to talk to strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:15 AM
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manipulate women for sex Unfortunately, until good behavior is rewarded with sex, men will manipulate women and lie to them to get sex because it works better than being honest and nice. Men will do whatever it takes to get sex, and if it takes manipulation, they will do that. You cant expect to tell a guy to act nice and honest to women but then tell him to keep hoping a woman will sleep with him, meanwhile, the serial manipulators are out here getting laid regularly. The honest and nice guy wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:55 AM
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If the average man did that it wouldnt help at all LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:10 PM
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No man on the planet is turned down by a woman bc he uses 2 in 1 or doesnt lotion his skin LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:09 PM
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I mean I do want that, is there a problem with wanting that? It would also be nice to have a LTR tho. I would prefer that over hookups any day
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:08 PM
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For wolves yes but that doesnt mean it doesnt exist. There is absolutely some truth to alphas and betas in a human population. There has always been a pecking order in human society
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:53 AM
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Sounds like excuses to me. Quit bitchin and hit the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:57 PM
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U would think but most people dont sign prenups and for one obvious reason. Prenups are a signal u dont trust your partner, and if you dont trust them, then why u getting married? Dont get me wrong I am a fan of them but the optics are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:46 PM
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Perhaps, but also stubborn as fuck, unfortunately. They never told me their total net worth but I think it was around $3 million before the divorce. Most of that was savings and the house though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:23 PM
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Great. Thats easy if you have been married for a few months, but hard to distinguish if you have been married for years. On top of that, you have to lay divorce lawyers. I know from my parents bad divorce that payment to lawyers took over 1/3 of their combined assets. Thats money they could have used for me or my sisters college or their retirement that went to some cockroach lawyer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:13 PM
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Not every woman has a job during marriage. Many are stay at home moms (which can be really good!) Regardless even if they have a job the assets are shared in the marriage and in a divorce they need to be split. That causes conflict. Even if financials didnt cause a problem in the divorce there is still the issue of kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 01:08 PM
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The only explanation I can come up with is that people who get married "straight away" have a more intense love that can withstand the ups and downs of life, while people who "take it slow" and cohabitate just aren't that madly in love with each other and as time goes on they are more likely to drift apart and get a divorce. Just my 2 cents
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:33 AM
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Correction, it’s the only reason you’re dating and the same can be said for most men. If sex wasn’t offered in relationships, men wouldn’t date. Companionship be dammed. Honestly, you are probably right. I am much more comfortable hanging around my guy friends than girls. This is actually a profound statement because how many guys do you think would actually be friends with women if sex was not on the table? How many guys actually enjoy the company of a girl, just as a friend? IDK, it's impossib…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:27 AM
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Culture has a massive impact. I would contend that there are some physical features that people find attractive across cultures, such as facial shape, but other factors can definitely change. For instance, foot binding used to be a way for women to show their beauty in pre-communist China. Google pictures of foot binding. It's disgusting. This is an exaggerated example, but important, because it means that less extreme attractive features could also be determined by culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:26 AM
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Side note to this comment - knowing how someone behaves when they live with you 24/7 is extremely important for marriage, bc most people have quirks that you might not like, and they're not always stunning & wearing makeup. People have disgusting habits sometimes. People wake up and look gross. If you live with the person and still love the whole them, not just their best self, that means that they are potentially a good marriage partner. The best way to test this to me seems to be cohabitation …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:23 AM
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Depends on what you mean by settling. Another comment on here addressed this. If you mean "settling down" by marrying & having kids and no longer going out and clubbing/hooking up, that is 100% what I plan to do. If you mean "settle," as in marry a woman who I think is very unattractive because I have no other option, then no, I won't do that. Marriage is already rigged against men. Why would I risk half of my assets and put kids thru a bad marriage, which will inevitably result from marrying do…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:21 AM
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The best solution is finding someone with a similar sex drive or is willing to take on for the team, but usually the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:00 PM
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Just be horny duh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:52 PM
1

I agree with you bro
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:06 AM
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To be honest I am just repeating what I have been told by others. I have never had a wife so i cant speak from experience. My parents did divorce because of this issue tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:41 AM
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Too late brah
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:16 AM
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No haha im just in an apt rn. Next year im living in the frat house hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:10 AM
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Good news is that my lease ends soon. My dryer sounds like a jet plane. I suppose that is what happens when it is run 24/7 by 4 college boys
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:35 AM
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About a month for the sheets and towels. I had a girl over and I realized I hadn't washed them since August, and I prompty cleaned everything in my apt so it was spotless. Gotta keep up appearances haha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:35 AM
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Guess I will throw them in the wash today.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:23 AM
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I'm not tall, but I lack a lot of confidence which is also a major handicap in dating for me. I'm social anxious and have trouble approaching women. I only come out of my shell and become talkative once I become comfortable around the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:54 AM
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Thanks bro! I have been trying. Since I posted this, I fell in a bit of a rut, and haven't been exercising or working out in a few days. Without a strong schedule, I tend to fall into laziness. This is not good!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:53 AM
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Women have social lives that they spend years cultivating for a support network while men tend to rely on their partner for emotional support. One way I think you can explain this is that men are always in constant competition, while women seem to see other women as partners, not competition. Admitting your weakness to other men seems to be unmanly for a lot of men, and it seems a lot of women also get the ick from men revealing their weaknesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:51 AM
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wash bedsheets and towels at least once every 1-2 weeks Wait really, is this true? Forgive my ignorance, I guess I need to put these in the wash RIGHT NOW. What have I been doing???
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:50 AM
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Have you considered that men operate different from women and may not need a friend to cry on or to vent to to feel better?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:49 AM
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Can you explain this further? I feel like woman take more work to keep happy than men. Most reasons for men divorcing their wives are because of lack of sex, while most reasons for women divorcing their husbands are infidelity, irreconciable differences, etc. It seems to me that if a woman wants to keep her man happy, all she has to do is give him regular sex, and he will be happy, while men have to put in more work than just regular sex to keep their woman happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:49 AM
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My personal theory is that men's value in society, their manliness(?) is judged by how many women they can court. Men with low body counts, or no GF or wife are judged to be low-value. The more women they court, the more their value as a "man" increases in the eyes of other men & society as a whole. Other men look up to men who have a lot of success in the sexual marketplace, while men look down on men who struggle. Thus, a man who has trouble courting women is judged to be low-value. On the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:46 AM
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The answer is yes. It will happen. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:19 PM
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Jesus H Christ dude. At least you kept your son!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:32 AM
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It's possible. What I have found is that girls seem to be much more interested when they're drunk and will give you their number but get less interested when they sober up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:16 PM
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Nothing wrong with that bro 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:36 PM
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Bro dont worry Ive been exercising. Ive done it before and I can do it again. Fuck keto tho I hated it. I just do rice and chicken. Works like a charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:30 PM
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Its entirely possible. Im in college and go to college parties often and found that women seem to show more interest when their drunk. However I am also drunk during these parties and probably miss all their social cues. Like for example at this one party I was talking to this girl who was super smily and enthusiastic. I got her snap and invited her out. She seemed really interested in me until she ghosted me haha
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:29 PM
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I tried keto, not my thing. I just do CICO, running, and weights
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:25 PM
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Tbf i feel like one of the best things you could do to understand the other sex is to just talk to them all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:18 AM
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Im 70lbs overweight. 5'10" 240lbs. Very visibly fat. Looked a LOT better at 190lbs but need to be 170 tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:15 AM
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No this is wrong. People love to talk about themselves and their interests. Read Dale Carnegie. I never said dont talk at all. Listen to her, relate, ask questions, cold read etc. She will lose track of time and think the conversation went great.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:14 AM
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I know. Thats why im trying to lose weight. Im tired of bring fat. 😪 Game and personality doesnt matter if youre literslly obese
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:13 AM
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Wow that is crazy. I have gotten zero matches in 3 years on any dating app. TBH i almost never use red pill stuff on dates. I literally just try to have a conversation and let her do most of the talking. Idk bro. If it wasnt for the Internet i wouldnt even think girls get horny ive never met a lusty girl before
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:20 AM
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Looks like the future is bright! The only women who want to sleep with me are either on drugs, deeply traumatized, or want to use me! Hooray!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:29 AM
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Lmao youre poor friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:57 AM
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All of that literally seems unimaginable. Ive not once had any girl show any interest in my ever. Not one has ever showed sexual interest in me or made a move. Must be nice. Although I bet it can get annoying if it happens too often or if youre already in a relationship Or maybe they did and I just couldnt tell. Never any OVERT advances.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:12 AM
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I still do, unfortunately, tho that has been changing. Lots of weird thoughts in my mind tbh. It feels like something I cant have. Its unconquerable. Something everyone else has but I dont. Jealousy? Contempt? Lust? Idk
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:10 AM
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Yea I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:10 AM
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facts
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:00 AM
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Not me LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:58 AM
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This is actually a great metaphor. People idolize celebs but then when they meet them in person they don't meet their expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:57 AM
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I think he's incorrect. The data shows that young men, 18-29, are much more likely (50% vs 30%) than their female counterparts to be single. That's probably because young women are dating older dudes. Those stats flip in older age. Women tend to be the single ones in older cohorts. Another explanation is that there are a lot of side pieces who think they are "dating" their sneaky link. So if I guy has 2 sneaky links and 1 LTR GF, that means there are 2 single dudes but 3 "taken" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:53 AM
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Yea, I get what your saying. But even for my lady friends who know me well, still, zero attraction (cuz Im obese and unattractive, working on that tho :) As you said, ladies build their attraction over time. So seeing as I have never been a LTR, it makes sense that I've never experienced that kind of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:50 AM
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If you're in college - sure If you're still really young - sure If you are in your 30s or 40s, it depends, but you have got some other problems that you need to fix first tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:48 AM
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I don’t want any men to approach me based on how I look TBF this is all cold-approaching. The only alternative to this is your male friends asking you out btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:47 AM
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But, the same cannot be said for women who only rarely get asked out, if at all. These women may not verbalize their desire about being asked out in public more for many reasons, i.e. they don’t want to invalidate other women’s experiences, they don’t want to come off as desperate or presumptuous, or maybe they don’t even fully recognize the desire within themselves. I am a guy, so ladies, feel free to correct me, but in my experience, it seems like the average/unattractive ladies still get aske…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:45 AM
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72 bro? Holy fucking shit. I only know one guy who has more than 50 and he's around 23. That's kinda nuts. Some people I just have a magic touch
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:42 AM
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Absolutely. When people are drunk they say dumb shit. I know I do. Sometimes I will wake up hungover and be like, "Why the fuck did I say that, that's so cringe." That's drunk euphoria for you haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:41 AM
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This is God's honest truth. Couldn't have said it better myself. That being said, if she doesn't bring it up early on, she will definitely bring up her sexual past at some point because she trusts you, and its up to you how you react. Personally, I never want to hear about my girl's hoe phase. Please keep it to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:40 AM
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IDK, I have some female friends who do this too. And its graphic. I think "Why are you telling me this bro? You know I am straight guy?" My only guess is they do it because they talk about with their female friends, and so the behavior is normal, and when they talk to a guy, its like a habit. Anyways, one of the things you should avoid talking about with strangers is the R.A.P.E. acronym - religion, abortion, politics, exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:39 AM
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This is a very hot take, but it's true. The reason is because before guys have sex, they glorify it and think it is the "end all be all experience," but the only way to get it is to convince a woman to do it with you, so they only treat women as a vehicle for that end. Once they have sex, and it's no longer glorified, they start caring about other things. Perhaps. IDK
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:34 AM
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I dont think u can realize it fully until you experience it for yourself. Its like reading about an event vs witnessing it in person. Also as a virgin I can tell u from experience that I still see sex that way. People tell me its not all that but as someone who has never had it i dont know. Ive never experienced it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:25 AM
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Proof? Also ur friends are gay. Ofc they see it different they dont want to have sex with you. Your gay friends see u the way I see my guy friends - completely platonically Also I can confirm a lot of male virgins do idolize pussy and put it on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:23 AM
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Id argue that personality plays a role but its not as important. If she is a toxic controlling abusive bitch but the sex is really good he might stay. If shes the perfect wife except she never wants sex he will leave. World isnt black and white. That being said once sex happens often ppl are more reluctant to leave which is one reason women might be so cautious. They dont want to catch feelings for the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:21 AM
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I think i completely misinterpreted your argument bc i thought childfree meant men with no children versus men who never want children. I definiteltly want children just not right now bc im not ready. So that changes everything completely. My apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:30 AM
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LOL not a troll. 1st, you said put my money where my mouth is. If i am spending money on a woman then I am spending money with the hope of some futre gain. If i just met you and dont know if its gonna work out, Im not gonna spend a whole lot of money on you and take you to a five star restaurant. Im gonna done a few affordable dates to actually get to know you first and then if I see some reciprocation I will be willing to up the spending. It would make no sense to invest a company if you have n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:11 AM
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If you aren’t getting approached you aren’t attractive enough for the risk. Facts. This is me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:04 AM
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Me. Never again. She was literally disgusting to look at, but I just wanted to see what a LTR would be like. Turns out she had some trauma from her past that made her extremely sex-adverse and we broke up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:02 AM
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No need to write a paragraph bro, you could have just said the title and you would be correct. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:00 AM
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Or that there's no point in women's company if they don't have sex with them TBF if we are dating exclusively or married, then yes. Otherwise, let's just be platonic friends but I am not going to date or marry you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:59 AM
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It's all about sex, specifically no strings attached casual sex. False. Romantic LTRs are underrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:59 AM
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The best way to describe it is that sex is a very important part of the equation, but not the only part. It's like your applying to college and did a bunch of extracurriculars, but your GPA is a 1.5. Both GPA and extracurriculars count. Similarily, both sex and personality matter, but with sex, personality doesn't matter, and even with sex, personality could be a problem too that ends the relationship. If a woman doesn't want to have sex with a man, there is no reason for the man to date her. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:58 AM
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Who says we are equal now tho? That is all that matters? There has been plenty of time for women to create a matriarchy / female-dominated society, which they largely have. All that matters is who has power now, not who has power yesterday. It's like telling a Palestinian suffering under Israeli apartheid that "Well, the Jews got massacred during the Holocaust, so you can't complain." The oppressed can absolutely become the oppressors, and more often than not, they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:56 AM
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Here we go folks, men frustrated about their sex lives are now "sexist". One more way to demonize struggling men. That's the female imperative
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:54 AM
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This is true, but beggars can't be choosers. At the end of the day, women are the gatekeepers of sex. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:53 AM
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18-29 single guys have it the worst bc we don't reach our peak SMV until 36, because women are looking for things like maturity, stability, and money, while men care more about looks. If you look at a profile of single Americans, you will find 20% more 18-29 men are single than 18-29 women, because those young women are dating men older than 29.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:53 AM
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So women don’t enjoy sex as much? Studies says otherwise. I'm pretty sure most studies say women don't orgasm that often during PiV unless their partner does a lot of foreplay and knows how to turn them on. Something like fewer than 30% of women orgasm during sex or something crazy like that which is why a lot of women turn to toys to finish. That being said, I personally will try to make her finish bc I care about my partner, but a lot of men want to just pump and dump and then leave, esp. with…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:51 AM
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Scarcity of women who are willing to do that mainly. That being said, you could absolutely try, you will just probably have a lot of dates and no LTRs. The average man can't afford to make big demands like that in the sexual marketplace because at the end of the day, beggars can't be choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:50 AM
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Because sex is fun, and that is a big reason I am dating. You might say, "get a prostitute" but that's inauthentic because I am paying for it. You get validation and an emotional connection and sometimes even love from someone who actually WANTS to sleep with you compared to sleeping with someone who is doing it because you paid them. Sex with someone you love is very different from someone who you aren't in love with. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:49 AM
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LOL nobody owes anybody anything why is what you said relevant to this conversation? You're not entitled to food, water, or shelter. You're not entitled to tampons or pads either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:46 AM
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I'm gonna half-disagree since as a man I do care a whole lot about sex and will not be in a romantic relationship or marriage if sex is not on the table. Then again, women know saying those things drive us crazy so that is why they say it. They're just trying to make you angry. The best way to respond is to just agree and amplify instead of denying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:45 AM
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I do not at all trust a childfree man unless he's already gotten a vasectomy I mean that is one way to go through life, but kinda sucks. Imagine going through life not trusting anybody LOL I tell men in my life, if you are childfree, that means that you will be correctly wearing a condom that you provide every single time you have sex until you get a successful vasectomy. Why do I have to provide it? If you don't trust me then wouldn't it make sense for YOU to provide it so I don't put any holes…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:42 AM
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Vasectomies reversals are expensive and sometimes don't work. The end results are similar to getting your balls or ovaries removed in terms of fertlility. Furthermore, vasectomies are out of the question for young men on a tight budget and irrelevant when condoms work just fine
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:41 AM
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This is a good idea Im gonna try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:29 AM
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Fair enough. It depends on every women. If a woman really wants you, she won't make you work for it because she's scared of losing you. I feel like the number of women who do that decreases with age though, the older ones get pickier because they are experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:46 AM
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Very true
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:22 PM
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Its not. Im just explaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:21 PM
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alpha / beta/ sigma whatever are just shorthand, colloquial words to describe people with actual behavioral traits. A "beta" might be described in psychology as a social anxious introvert, perhaps with autism, with depression, high agreeableness, introversion, low openness, etc. while a "alpha" would be described as people with high self-esteem and confidence with low agreeablness, extraversion, high openness, high neuroticism, and high conscientiousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:33 AM
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Cognitive-behavioral therapy is useless for many guys in our situation. What many need instead is motivation, which in some cases can come from a life coach. In a study of over 250 self-indentified incels, only 51.5% said they had ever tried therapy, and only 15 of those said therapy made them feel better (Speckherd, Ellenberg, Morton et. al, 2021). Cognitive behavior therapy (CBT) is mainly focused on getting people to come to conclusion, not giving actual, practical advice. As some who has bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:30 AM
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I suppose. When people feel sad they want to talk about it. No one wants to blame themselves. Maturing is ofc realizing that you are the problem not other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:02 AM
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TBF, I think online dating is much better for older folks like you. My Dad found his fiance on a dating app like you after his divorce. Most older women are experienced and no what they want. They aren't looking to waste their time. They are looking for life-partners or a good partner, not a quick bang.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:01 AM
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PPD, where I am going to make large sweeping generalizations and write a small paper on them only to get called names in the comment section haha
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:00 AM
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If they are, AA might be a good place to meet new people since they would all be like them (recovering alcoholics) and that's something they have in common
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:59 AM
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I thought girls go to the gym to work out and not be hit on. Well, they do. No one goes to the gym with the sole intent of being hit on by hot guys. Also, most of the time, the guys hitting on the girl are not her type and come off creepy. The main way to get a girl at the gym is to be very attractive or slowly start talking to her and get her number later on instead of immediately approaching, calling her cute and asking for numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:59 AM
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Look for local makerspaces beacuse they have crafts classes and build nights which can be fun. Look for churches if that is you're thing and volunteer for activities. Look for neighborhood facebook pages.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:58 AM
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POF What is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:56 AM
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BTW, when you are actually there you will have to talk to people to make new friends haha. Usually you can't just show up and expect to make new friends right off that bat. IK that can be intimidating but its a good life skill to have. Learn to make small talk. Here is a book. Also I must warn you that reading is not going to make you a better small-talker. For instance, you can't read the rules of American football and then expect to get good. You read the rules to know the guidelines and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:56 AM
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The best things to do are activities that you are actually interested in, because if meeting the girl goes wrong, you can still have fun with the activity you like. It's like backup. For me, I like outdoors stuff like hiking and kayaking. I don't have a lot of free time or money, but if I did I would go more often to dance classes such as two-stepping.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:54 AM
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As I guy who has never asked my female friends about their single friends, how does this work? I never did it because I thought it would be awkward to ask her, hey, are any of your friends single and looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:53 AM
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Not a woman, but from what I have heard from a lot of women, they prefer to meet guys in places where there is no alcohol and an easy out. They are nervous around guys who have been drinking, bc we are bigger and stronger, which is why when they go to the bar or clubbing its usually in groups, for protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:52 AM
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I mean, yes, without a doubt. Self-esteem is directly related to how much you care about how much others care about you. Obviously, like with all things, there is a limit to this. You should care to an extent what other people think about you. Reputation is important. But with women who you are meeting at a bar, who you will literally never see again, it really doesn't matter how she reacts to your pickup game. If she thinks you're a creep and slaps you across the face so what? You're never goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:51 AM
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Its impossible to censor TRP ideology bc there will ALWAYS be sexually frustrated men. Its like denying people drinking water and then trying to stop them from talking about ways for them to get more water.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:28 AM
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Rollo Tomassi preaches that. The female imperative wishes to silence TRP bc it gives men a leg up in the war between the sexes. By keeping men BPd and ignorant, they can more easily manipulate men and keep women in power.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:25 AM
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People are going to say whatever they want bro. Its up to you to figure out how you are going to react to what they say. Anyways caring what women think is beta and shows neediness and lack of self confidence. Learn to not give a shit. The less you care about what they think, the less you care about needing their validation, the more they are attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:20 AM
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Ofc women dont want to date mean hot guys. Thats stupid. They want to date nice hot men. Thats the unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:51 AM
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Women like to call men entitled bc they know it drives us up t the wall. At the end of the day, its not entitlement. Nobody likes getting rejected. It makes them feel bad. It hurts their ego. Thats literally it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:50 AM
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No. Personally I wouldnt recommend going around slut shaming women to their face. Just basic politeness. As always, keep negative thoughts to yourself and if u go on a date with a woman who has a high body count you can just end the dare amicably at the end or just txt her later saying you dont think it will work out. No value in telling women to their face their sluts it doesnt accomplish anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:48 AM
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Just that. Hes normal. Nobody wants "normal". We want the best. Both sexes are always looking to level up, even guys, its just women have it easier bc guys give it up easily while women are guarded and picky. Both sexes want the best partner they can get, not some average dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:47 AM
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Absolutely. Women will break all their rules for guys they are lusting hard for but will shit test the average guy bc just tolerating him in the hopes of finding "the One" and if she is just going to tolerate him he might as well be as tolerable as possible which is the purpose of rules & shit tests. Think abt it like this. Take the hottest guy known to man. Women would probably sleep with harry styles if he just asked. On the other end of the spectrum is the ugliest guy ever. Think the hunchbac…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:45 AM
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To answer your question, yes but they are rare. Hot people can get away with being dicks, while ugly people have to learn to get along just to survive or get ahead. Ugly people, if theyre smart, realize they cant afford to be assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:42 AM
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Its also a very neutral way to describe someone without saying theyre "eh". If I said a person I met was just okay or average they would probably take it as an insult. People dont want to be average. "Nice" is just a little bit positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:40 AM
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Basically what he is saying is that women will tolerate bad behavior from hot guys because they still are physically attracted to the hot guys. Looks can overcome a shitty personality, but a good personality cant overcome shitty looks. If her hot BF is a toxic asshole she will tolerate it and pretend its okay bc hes hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:39 AM
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once we get a bit older and had enough from hot guys, we go for the nice guys So basically what she said is once they have their fun racking up their body counts with Chad, they hit the Wall and settle for a beta nice guy so he can financially support her stay at home mom lifestyle until he either kills himself or resigns to a dead bedroom. Are women secretly redpilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:38 AM
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Evidence, not the names of current events. Show me the facts
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:18 PM
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Precisely I couldnt have said it better myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:41 PM
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Idek what the pussy bubble popping even looks like. Top don or bottom up change?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:22 AM
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Idk about 3 min a day but everyone should get at minimum 75min of cardio a week (includes walking). But i recommend 30 min a day minimum, preferred 4 or 5 days a week of 1hr on non rest says. The best way to do this is to take Satueday and Monday off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:17 AM
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Lmao wdym society considers hard work oppression?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:24 AM
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True. Tbf im not angry or mad most of the time. Its really only when Im lying in bed at night and thinking about. In my day to day life im not thinking abt it too much at all nor do I feel angry or mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:23 AM
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No its almost entirely due to lack of movement. If you walk 30 min a day every day and start getting more active it will rise up. Our bodies just dont need it anymore due to our sedentary lifestyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:31 AM
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Most people are not chads, and most people are not overweight incels. However, most people, in the US, are either overweight or obese, and the average lifetime body count is around 5-7, so if we zoom in on young men, 18-29, it is fair to say the average man is sexually frustrated, 50% are single,and the average body count is 1 or 2, with 30% not having sex in the last year, which is basically an incel. While that doesn't make you a lifelong incel virgin, most young men struggle with dating and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:15 AM
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TBF, there is a level of "treating me kindly" that goes from just being nice to having sex with me. As someone who has woman friends who are nice to be, but would never have sex, the basic "nice" still leaves me feeling empty and unwanted. By having sex we would share a special connection. Just being my friend, being nice, and laughing occasionally, while its nice, doesn't fulfill my emotional and sexual need.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:13 AM
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Yes, but focus on having sex with the right person and not random people you don't have an emotional connection to. Regular sex with your GF or wife is much better than regular sex with hookers or random hookups you met at the bar
/r/seduction10/05/22 12:09 AM
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Why do you say that? There were 237 subjects in this study. Seems pretty valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:59 PM
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Women when they realize men won't treat them nicely if they don't treat men nicely 😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:56 PM
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B/c 2/3 of Americans are overweight or obese, and one of the best ways to become more attractive is to simply lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:56 PM
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Going to the gym is not a fad, and it should be a part of every real man's weekly routine. Modern society has made us fat and lazy. Sitting on our asses every day, stuffing our faces with Cinnabons, and driving everywhere has cut our testosterone levels in half, made most of us develop some kind of mental illness, and ruined our bodies. People need to get active. They need to go outside. They need to exercise and lift weights. Not only will it improve your physical health, but it will improve yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:55 PM
1

Machinist
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:53 PM
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I love big booties and I cannot lie
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:53 PM
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Literally more than 2/3 of America is overweight, more than 1/3 is clinically obese. It's a lot less for younger people because we haven't yet been working on offices for decades, but its still bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:52 PM
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Always was
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:51 PM
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Yea, that is what I was trying to say in my post. Obviously I don't look that different after 2 weeks, but I sure do feel different. My confidence has gone up a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:50 PM
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Bro first of all calm down. 2nd of all if you try to bring up any of that shit around a girl she is going to be weirded out. So keep it to yourself. I would estimate that most RP men here are fat, ugly incels. Thats what drives most men to the RP in the first place. Additionally, you bring up that being attractive doesn't overcome societal issues with women, feminism, media etc etc. yet apparently all these giga-chads are having gobs and gobs of sex with insta thots and tinder hoes so apparently…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:49 PM
1

Young men need a job and a girlfriend. When they don't have a job and a girlfriend, society implodes. LOL can you provide evidence for this claim ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:46 PM
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And it's not rocket science I mean, this theory has been around for as long sociology has existed, dudes like Heidigger, Smith, Engels, Spengler, Twain and even the neoliberal Schumpeter and the almighty conservative Chesterton made some very accurate theories (and some observations based on ancient societies) about what happens to the social systems when enough men check out for whatever reasson. Can you provide links to these documents? I want to read them. Basically, Marx concluded by saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:45 PM
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At least from my experience, no woman has ever been outright rude, mean or abusive to me. Most of my frustration stems from the lack of any kind of validation from them. They just have zero (or maybe even negative) attraction to me. I have never met a woman who was head over heels for me, and then I see them falling head over heels for other guys and I get jealous and jaded. They will tolerate me and even be my friend, but god forbid I ever bring up sex and everything blows up. I am only ever al…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:42 PM
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Yea honestly there is more to what we want than just sex- love, romance, validation, basic human decency, and we get none of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:39 PM
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Are you trying to say u r perfect? U always treated everyone amazing. How much money u have? The answer I’m looking for is none since u gave it all away. LOL I think you misunderstood where he is coming from. People are taught to be polite and have manners. They are taught to be kind to strangers and not be a dick all the time. However, if you are not rewarded for this behavior, you will stop doing it. If you don't treat men who are nice better than you treat men who aren't nice, then don't expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:38 PM
4

Studies have shown it doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:36 PM
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This is chilling to read - this effectively is saying that your empathy towards your fellow man is reciprocal and thus if someone isn't "nice" to you then you not only don't care about them but wish them ill or won't treat them right. Unfortunately, this is how most people think. Reciprocity is the foundation of cooperation. Why do you think people are taught to be polite and have manners? Because by and large strangers will be nice back to you if you are nice to them. If you are mean to strange…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:35 PM
0

While you are largely right, If you were raised by abusive parents who frequently beat the shit out of you, locked you in a closet, and starved you would you not hate them as an adult? There is a big difference between physical/verbal abuse and women not wanting to have sex with you LOL. Both can make you feel bad, of course, but the former is much, much worse than the latter
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:33 PM
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How bro gimme some examples
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:08 PM
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Lmao bruh aint no way you gotta up your game or something. Start polarizing womem
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:53 PM
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If you were social and active and lifting for 2 years idk how you didnt manage to get laid bro. Just talk to women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:47 PM
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Everywhere I go bro (i am horny asf)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:47 PM
1

Do u even lift bro ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:46 PM
1

I will just use my charming personality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:46 PM
1

Facts. That shit aint worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:30 PM
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Having friends is still better than no friends. That being said u still got to put yourself out there bro. If youre out there talking to women and trying to hit being healthy WILL help
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:42 AM
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Mmhhmm im gonna disagree with you bc I def think women would be more attracted to me if I was fit than how i am now. Rn im obese as fuck. U cant tell me with a straight face women dont prefer healthy dudes over obese dude
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:12 AM
1

Too bad. Life is hard. Stop complaining. No one can fix your life but you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:02 AM
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Bro that's on you. I never said lifting would make you a chick magnet. I said it would improve your game. You still have to go out and talk to women, get their numbers, invite them on dates, and go fuck. Aint no woman going to hold your hand through that process.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:01 AM
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Couldn't have said it better myself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:00 AM
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I do it for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:59 AM
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You would think, but go read some comments from some of the other "men" on this post
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:59 AM
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Their is no Gym for your face bro. This is absolute bullshit if you are fat. My face looks ways different before and after I got fat. It's all puffy and shit and I got a double chin. Yea, the gym can't fix a weak jaw, but you might as well have big muscles. Anyways this whole "I will always be a loser" is a losing mindset. You gotta think like a winner. You got to be a delusional narcissist with a God complex. The gym helps with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:58 AM
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TBF I worked out heavily, about 4-5 times a week for 2 years pre-covid, so while I aint an expert, Ive been around the block a few times. Covid absolutely fucked my routine, I got fat and lazy and stopped being able to pull hot bitches. Now I'm returning
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:57 AM
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Boggles my mind that women are turned off by guys actively being interested in them. So weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:28 AM
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100% agree you will have good days and bad days and you have to be able to get thru the bad days from pure force of habits. Ive been there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:27 AM
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Thats what Im saying.... even tho the physical gains may take a while the mental gains happen fast
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:15 PM
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Theyre both importance. Also the huge difference is mental mot physical rn. I do feel a lot better mentally
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:56 PM
1

Thats just life bro. You can get mad about it or you can learn to play the game. Women are born with their value, men have to earn their value. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:11 PM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:03 PM
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big guys with beer bellies. If that was true I would be drowning in women haha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:11 PM
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Thanks for the advice man. I'm a good spot. A lot of my friends go to the gym and I've been going with them. They support me, so no one is weirded out thankfully. They've also been helping me on my diet and meal prep. And yea, 1% improvement every day adds up. It's 365% improvement over a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:11 PM
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If you are handicapped and unable to exercise than generic RP advice may not be for you because you are literally unable to improve your situation and have a physical handicap.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:01 PM
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No I don't think that. I think every guy on this forum has their own reason for being here. My reason is that I am sexless obese sexually frustrated man who had a lot more luck when I was skinny. Considering that 2/3 of the US is either obese or overweight, being fit definitely puts you ahead of everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:00 PM
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True, but a negative reaction is good too beause it saves you time and prevents you from getting in a relationship with a girl who isn't interested. Move on to the next one. Learn, adapt, overcome
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:59 PM
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I aint saying its a magic bullet that will make everything better but it will definitely help you and make you feel better and its one of the best things you can do as an individual. Especially if you are fat. Forget about girls. It is something you should be doing in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:57 PM
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Okay, well that's them. I can't control how women feel. As long as I am not being an overbearing creep making sexual comments or touching her, I am fine. Some like it, some don't, I am not going to let my fear of women's reaction control me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:57 PM
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Yea if you are going to compliment someone's body, you compliment something they had to put in work to get such as their hair, if it looks nice, or their nails.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:56 PM
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It's not that they're a bitch or coward, its that they want to manipulate you. You provide something they want (money, a house, etc.) while they can go get good sex from somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:54 PM
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Yup, we know. Whoever suggests an open relationship is indicating that they are unsatisified in the relationship but doesn't want to break up because they don't want to give up the perks of being in a relationship while still not needing to have sex with you. It's a huge red flag, and you should break up. Know your worth king. A king doesn't settle for sloppy seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:53 PM
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I mean, even if it is scary, you have to just ignore the fear and move forward. I've been listening to some podcasts about war heros, and every single one said they were scared but they did what they did anyways. No one, even "brave" people, lacks fear. They just have enough free will to overcome their fear and not let it dictate their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:51 PM
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Not really. Harassment is repeated unwanted sexual advances. If you hit on a girl once and she says no and you say "Have a nice day" while she might be annoyed that does not rise to the level of sexual harassment. Really, you can avoid all accusations of that by not commenting on women's bodies in the first interaction. Just don't go up to a woman and say "Wow baby that ass is FAT" like ofc thats sexual harassement. Going up to a girl, talking to her, and asking her out is not sexual harassment.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:49 PM
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If you're a man, you still have to make the first move. Doesn't matter who you are or what you look like
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:45 PM
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Lifting and eating healthy takes months before you start to see results and a year or two before it truly reaches the point where you start posing in front of mirrors Okay true, but nothing worth it is free. The best things in life take a lot of hard work. I am 240lbs and need to be 170. I need to lose 70 lbs. That might take 1.5 years. But as the saying goes, the best time to plant a tree was 30 years ago, but the next best time is now. That all being said, I have noticed my mental health & sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:34 PM
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That's what I've started doing. :) 10lbs down and never felt better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:24 PM
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Yup, in the toliet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:14 PM
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HAHHA but really tho pull out is not a safe method bc precum has live sperm in it. Wrap it up kings u dont want a baby momma
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:13 PM
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Haha well im glad you told me that. Right now I really want a LTR girlfriend over a bunch of hookups because Im a hopeless romantic. But hey man super big congratulations on the weight loss. Thats fucking amazing!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:11 PM
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True but im stilled angry as fuck. Im almost done with college and had zero LTRs. What the fuck man? I need to get it together. Thats why i recently started lifting weights and eating right but its gonna be a long road ahead. I got lose 70 pounds
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:36 PM
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Honestly youre prob right but im just intimidated bc my body count is still zero at 21 😪
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:16 PM
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In my case we never even had sex either bc she was talking to other guys and i had been dating her for 2 months and she still didnt want to have sex nor did she act that attracted to me. Really opened my ideas to female dating when chick with a BMI of 30 can still have multiple dudes in her DMs and a body count of 4 by 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:10 PM
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Yes bc I already tried this. I found a woman who was similar in fatness to me and the sight of her was literally revolting. I did it as an experiment to see if I could pull women werr "in my league". The problem is I find obese people disgusting. I find myselfz an obese person, disgusting. I hate being in photos. Sometimes I look back at photos of my old, slimmer self and i go wow, I used to be hot. Thats what I want to get back to. I want to look at myself and see a hot person not a fat piece o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:31 PM
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Bc ppl usually get mad when u say u dont like fat people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:28 PM
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Yup we know. Im motivating myself to workout with this knowledge. Im not going to live being fat anymore I refuse!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:41 PM
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Yea Im not settling for fatties. Sorry. Id rather work out for 2 years and lose all this weight
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:41 PM
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Yea me either. Literally almost every guy I know showers
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 10:00 PM
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Yes that is correct. Bc I said 90% involve one or both. So that include a man getting drunk and raping a sober woman. So yea maybe not decrease it 90%
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:10 PM
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Thats my logic yea.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:39 AM
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Didnt say it would help. I said telling me to groom themselves better will not get them laid LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:30 AM
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I mean, it definitely would help a little. But its not going to be enough alone lol. Thats my whole point. Its just part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:59 AM
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Cohabitation is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:40 AM
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basic grooming I love how the ladies always like to pull this one out, yet basic grooming is usually not a barrier to men in the dating market. If I was to all of a sudden dress the best way possible, I can assure you, without a doubt, it would not increase my success with women at all. There is still much more that you need to be "attractive"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:27 AM
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That is absolutely correct. It shows self-control. We want prudish women who will be sluts for only us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:24 AM
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Uhhhh women don’t have sexual drives? Have you ever met a women cabrón? I’ve met women with higher sex drives than me and I’m promiscuous dab. Like my dick getting sore n shit ma give me a second to breath. I've only met 1 woman with a really high sex drive, but that might be for 2 reasons (a) I haven't met enough women and/or (b) I have never gotten close enough to women for them to feel comfortable talking about their sex lives. TBF I am not too comfortable when they talk about it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:24 AM
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And likewise, most men do not want women they date seriously to have weak standards for who they fuck. Absolutely true. Men want prudish women who are slutty for them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:20 AM
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I am pretty sure that most guys who are interested in you would be 100% down for a LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:20 AM
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Imagine in this case that the food is all owned by a certain demographic of people and every time you try to get someone they tell you no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:19 AM
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Couldn't have said it better myself bro
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:19 AM
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Tbf there is literally nothing wrong with talking with a woman because you think she is hot. In fact, in terms of dating, men should only talk to women who they think are hot. That is the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:18 AM
2

TBF, Hitler wasn't nice to dogs, he killed his own dog with cyanide. He pretended to be nice to dogs to seem more "down to Earth" with his people. (Same reason scummy politicians put on jeans and don't wear jackets when talking to rural crowds)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:16 AM
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True, but almost every rapist is someone the lady knew already, and almost 90% of rape and SA involves either the victim, perp, or both, consuming alcohol. So if you never drink alcohol around men, you can decrease your odds of being raped by almost 90%
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:13 AM
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This is irrelevant since most prison rape is still done by a man, and most people are not in present, so this is irrelevant to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:12 AM
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average man = potential degenerate predator, goodlooking man = player. Incorret. It says all men are potential degenerate predators, it's just that halo effect makes the red flags of attractive men look like green flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:12 AM
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I largely agree with this paragraph, despite it being a depressing reality. It is one hundred percent true. If she has to choose between a hot asshole and an ugly asshole, she is going to choose the hot asshole every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:11 AM
0

To play devil's advocate, autistic men probably don't want autistic women either. On the other hand, because men value looks more than women, as long as she is pretty, he will probably be okay with it. That being said, limiting your dating pool to "autistic women" is not gonna go well at all LOL. They are just so far and few between, and even if you ran into one, you wouldn't know unless you told you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:09 AM
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All I know for sure is that my kids ain't have tech until at least freshman year of HS. Yes, it will make raising kids a LOT harder, but it will be worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:08 AM
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Idk if it is a "literal" death sentence, but more of a figurative one. It will definitely hold him back from achieving his full potential because he will be unable or not confident enough to do bold, risky things that propel many men into success.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 05:07 AM
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Social norms, that's literally it. That being said if you want to nt to contact your Congressperson and ask them to pass a infant male rights bill that makes it illegal to circumsize a baby, you are free to do so
/r/MensRights04/05/22 05:38 AM
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Women arent gonna riot LOL
/r/MensRights03/05/22 11:51 AM
-4

riots LOL
/r/MensRights03/05/22 08:43 AM
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Not classist just the facts that unwanted children have a higjer rates of growing up to be criminals bc their parents dont love them so they find a group that makes them feel welcome aka gangs. Google abortion freakanomics
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 08:41 AM
1

No bc condoms exist. And i can flush them after if im really that worried. Thays whay the nba recommends their players do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 08:39 AM
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We want selective women who are slutty with Same reason women want a bad boy who has a soft spot for them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:20 AM
6

Based
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:18 AM
5

LMAO okay well let me just say it has nothing to do with you. I just feel some intense sadness for about 10 seconds after I nut. Its been worse recently. Its like suddenly im no longer attracted to the woman I just nut in for a few seconds, but it passes quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:16 AM
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Women like to say men are "entitled" when they get upset that they wont have sex with them, and they like to use that word because it gets a rise out of us. I wouldn't call it entitlement but its your decision to take offense from it, idrc what women call me, I just know what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 04:28 AM
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I mean, yea, if the relationship ended, it did fail. If the relationship wasn't failing it wouldn't have ended LOL. This includes instances where the partner dumps the other and wants to "level up."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 04:18 AM
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Doesn't matter. You will have to pay a lawyer to figure that out in court. Good luck buddy! Fuck men! /s
/r/MensRights02/05/22 04:06 AM
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How is sexual harassment a form of violence? The Dictionary defines 'violence' as: the use of physical force so as to injure, abuse, damage, or destroy Therefore, sexual harassement cannot be violence.
/r/MensRights02/05/22 04:05 AM
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No one is "bullet proof" as long as other people have power over them. Will Smith is one of the Hollywood's biggest stars but he has been ostracized and removed from every production he was working on because of the slap. Harvey Weinstein was thought to be untouchable but he was taken down too, and for good reason
/r/MensRights02/05/22 04:02 AM
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Tbf that is also what happened to women who complained until very recently, when #MeToo and Harvey Weinstein shit came out. Now the pendulum has swung hard in the opposite direction, so that every single offense or transgression must be investigated and work halted.
/r/MensRights02/05/22 04:01 AM
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True, but sexual harassment is usually defined as "ongoing" and not a one-off joke. If Murray had made dozens of sexually-charged inappropriate jokes to women on set (assuming what this is about), then that would be in the territory of harassment.
/r/MensRights02/05/22 04:01 AM
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I would need to hear the "funny thing" to really make up my mind on this issue, that being said, this is a pretty common occurrence for men in general. We sometimes will make certain jokes(sometimes referred to as "locker room talk" that would get a laugh out of the boys, but not be funny to women. Depending on the severity of this comment though I could say that was harmless or crossed a lot. That being said, I don't think we should ostracize someone for a bad joke. Sticks and stones may break …
/r/MensRights02/05/22 04:00 AM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:17 AM
1

Idk bruh women def. talk about disliking being it on by creepy men but they probably just dont do it here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 09:04 PM
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LMAO not LinkedIn bruh these men are STARVIN
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 09:02 PM
1

True but i bet i feel that way bc i have to basically be perfect to overcome my ugliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:53 PM
-1

Tbf almost all relationships fail
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:05 PM
1

Still sus since every guy has a horror story of his girl going out getting drunk and doing something with another dude. We know that type of behavior is more likely to happen at these events. Anyways if she wants to go out and flirt with ot her dudes thats fine. She can do that. But ill be moving on to the next girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:02 PM
3

Youre a girl. There is something that all guys know is that they will always want to fuck a female friend if given the chance. Girls on the other hand think they can just be friends with a guy and everything will be good. Wrong. I can assure you that unless that dude is gay, he would fuck you if you offered. Hes waiting there for just the right moment like a hungry rat. Every single one of your guy friends is like that I guarantee you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:26 PM
1

I am a man so I don't know shit about this topic, but this is what I have heard (take it with a grain of salt) Women are just as horny as men, but they are much less willing to have sex than men are. For one, before contraception was invented, women had a high risk of becoming pregnant from sex. Pregnancy is 9 months of discomfort and hard work, and then you have to raise a kid for 18 years. Before modern medicine, half of the women died in pregnancy. For these reasons, women have learned to bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:30 AM
2

I don't know honestly. I would surmise that fathers with kids are going to be much more engaged in their community because its the community their kids grow up in. I definitely know that I some point when I get a wife & have kids and settle down I definitely want to be involved in my community. I want to be involved in community organizations, PTA in the schools, planning community events and festivals, invest in my community, and build relationships with my neighbors and local business owners. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:56 AM
0

That's where your wrong bro. Go do something you like. Nihilism is the path to self-destruction and annihilation. In life you need to find a purpose and pursue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:55 AM
3

Literally just move with a purpose. Do things. Don't sit at home all day & just smoke weed and play video games LOL. Have a job, do interesting things outside of work like being outdoors, traveling, having an interesting hobby that you are passionate about. Don't get me wrong, having these things won't get you pussy, but it will put you above all the other average chuds who just sit at home, smoke weed, and play video games. BTW! With enough charisma and confidence, that loser sitting at home sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:51 AM
1

This is pretty much it. You have to condition yourself to not give fuck about how she feels in the beginning. If you approach a girl and she seems a bit scared you can of course back off but as long as youre not being physical with her or preventing her from leaving, there is really nothing wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:49 AM
1

Absolutely not LOL that's literally most of the reason I am there in the first place. I mean being romantic is great and all but it's not enough. We can cuddle on the couch all day but I'm gonna get horny and want to fuck. And if a woman isn't providing that I'm gonna dump her and find another one
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:46 AM
1

Nah the only reason modern women go for astrology over mainstream religion is that its not mainstream. It's really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:44 AM
-3

Exactly. What exactly makes a girl "interesting" to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:44 AM
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I mean, pussy is a very, VERY important part of the equation LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:41 AM
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I dont believe for a minute a guy cant find a woman that’s interesting. Shallow guys just arent interested in knowing interesting women. You would be surprised. I've talked to a lot of women. To be honest, most of them aren't that interesting. Why would I want to hang out with someone I can't relate to when I can hang out with the boys all day? Don't get me wrong, I can talk to women all day long. At the end of the day, if guys and women didn't want to a fuck or are romantic, there wouldn't be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:40 AM
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Very true. Know your worth king
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:52 AM
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I saw the 80/20 principle working in the field with my frat. Everyone anonymously filled out a poll about their body count. The top 20% had body counts over 30, while the median was like 4. So the top 20% of men in the frat did have 80% of the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 12:22 AM
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20% of men are having 80% of the casual sex with 20% of women So does that mean 80% of users are having 20% of the sex, meaning that most users actually don't hook up with anybody or find anyone because of the apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 12:20 AM
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The truth is only 20% of men don’t have to jump through hoops, go through dry spells, accept flakiness, say “ you’re right it’s my fault “ even when it isn’t, sleep on the couch, treat her like she’s the prize etc I feel like HVM deal with this to, but instead of accepting this behvior, they just drop the woman and find another because they have options. HVM are not immune to having toxic relationships with bad women. It's just they don't put up with that crap bc they have options, while the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 12:19 AM
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This is the most likely explanation. As much as many TRP guys like to say guys shouldnt get married, women will eventually wise up if you dont tie the knot and find someone who will.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:12 PM
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Thats why you gotta keep them dependent on you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:09 PM
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Maybe he didnt because he KNEW something like this would happen
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:26 PM
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Yea for rich kids divorce isnt nearly as bad as it is for the avg kid bc their parents dont have to worry about financial problems
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:26 PM
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I dont care. People have free will and should be able to control themselves especially if they have kids. If you arent responsible enough to be a parent, you shouldnt be a parent, simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:16 AM
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There are levels of incompatibility. I still think its wrong to jump ship in any relationship at the first sign of trouble. Once you have kids youre patience to work through problems must be higher. I think finding a hot new dick or pussy to ride after being with the same guy for 8 years is a horrible reason to jump ship esp. if you have kids. If these two were just dating, no kids, itd be shitty but not nearly as much. On average single parent kids do worse than dual parent kids. Today we have …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:51 AM
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I mean being a celeb definitely does make you high value. The four basic things that can make a man high value are: looks money status / reputation personality Celebs usually have 2/4 of these (money and status) but having those usually means you have confidence (personality), so three of those are usually enough to get away with not having the best looks (like pete davidson for instance)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:19 AM
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Yes. Hence I mentioned "leveling up". Even for HVM they cant avoid how many women want to level up even if they are dating a HVM and are in a good, healthy relationship. (Men do this too sometimes but I think it happens less because of scarcity)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 03:02 AM
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Haha this reminds me of a scene from American Psycho, which, while misogynistic, has a hint of truth to it: McDermott: If they have a great personality and they're not great looking... then who *ing cares? Bateman: Well, let's just say hypothetically ok? What if they have a great personality? [pause, all laugh] Bateman: I know, I know. Bateman, McDermott, Van Patten: [in unison] There are no girls with good personalities. Van Patten: A good personality consists of a chick with a little hard body…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 02:52 AM
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LOL she is definitely extremely hot, like 10/10 but I lost a lot of respect for her when she cheated on Jason Sudeikis when they had kids and then dumped him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 02:50 AM
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This is part of it. I also think women have also been conditioned either not to approach men, or have never needed to since they get approached by men so often anyways. If a woman does approach a man, he will probably have to be extremely attractive to her to the point he is irresistable. But as most women have said, they are attracted to less than 1% of guys so its pretty rare a woman would see a man they feel so passionately abt they are desperate to approach, except for extremely hot celebs a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 02:49 AM
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No we arent lmao. Where do u get this idea from? No one has ever told me "he anon, youre a man so you dont need to do any chores or work hard bc youre wife will do it" LMAO what planet do you live on. Also the gender wage gap is a complete myth
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:14 AM
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No we arent lmao. Where do u get this idea from? No one has ever told me "he anon, youre a man so you dont need to do any chores or work hard bc youre wife will do it" LMAO what planet do you live on. Also the gender wage gap is a complete myth
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:14 AM
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I engage on this sub bc i find it enjoyable to talk about this topic. Thats really it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:38 AM
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Going to believe your statistics over my anecdotal evidence. I was just speaking from experience at my uni. It makes sense less people are fat or obese since everyone walks or bikes to class.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:38 AM
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HOLY SHIT
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:59 AM
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Good point. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:58 AM
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Yea ik who he is. His high value comes from his physique and confidence. Also yea doesnt he beat women tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:41 AM
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Advocating against hate doesnt make you a HVM or else every activist would get tons of girls and misogynistic assholes wouldnt get any. And yet the latter gets plenty of lay. A HVM is a man who is seen as high value by women in the sexual marketplace. Having good morals and advocating against hate is great but I'm not sure too many women will want to fuck you bc of those beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:25 AM
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Because we see fatness as a disease and not as a result of ones actions. Fatness is in many ways like alcoholism and should be treated as such. People dont accept their alcoholism (I mean they say in AA im an alcoholic but they try to be sober). In the same way fatness should be overcome
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:23 AM
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Based. Reject fatness, embrace fitness
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:22 AM
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"Patriarchy" LOL we do not live in a patriarchy. Few understand this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:22 AM
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Yes. Esp when youre younger. Most obese people are older since they have working office jobs for years. At my college Id say only 1/50 people is clearly obese. So to be an obese college student is pretty bad. Edit: Seems like the accurate statistic is 5% of US college students are obese compared to 33% of the adult population.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:17 AM
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Never said it wasnt okay lmao. Hot/Crazy matrix applies to men except swap crazy with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 09:53 PM
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Sometimes its better in the dating maketplace to be a narcissist than a loser. You get rewarded for over confidence and punished for under confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 09:35 PM
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Tbf the text about having a god complex wasnt about thinking youre God and starting a cult. It was more about being confident
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:13 PM
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Honestly facts
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:27 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:26 PM
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Why not 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:25 PM
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Oooohhhhh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 08:35 AM
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What makes me feel attractive is looking attractive. Dating has gotten steadily more difficult as I have gotten fatter. Ive ballooned up from 190 to 242 and im 5'11". Huge difference in dating. I want to get back to the point in my life where I looked in the mirror and said "damn" and thought I was the shit. One time I even gotten a fucking boner from looking at myself. I know I can get back. I looked fucking hot when I was thin. Now Im ugly. I can barely stand to look in the mirror and I HATE s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:48 AM
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I for one do not have any options. No woman wants me. Its surprising, but I think it is actually zero. Like not a single one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:36 AM
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The problem is that if the avg man is picky he gets nothing. We cant afford to be picky bc we have so few options. Beggars cant be choosers after all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:36 AM
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Quite possible yea
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:34 AM
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Me. I made myself the authority over my own opinions and you cant do a thing about it. What we want is girls who are selective and dont have huge bodycounts but are very sexual once they get into a relationship. What we have today is women with high libidos with high bodycounts and women with low libidos withlow bodycounts and nothing in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:30 AM
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So basically from what Id gather if youre going to have an abusive boyfriend he should at least be hot ktherwise what are you enduring the abuse for
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:26 AM
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No we arent lmao. Where do you get this crap?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:25 AM
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Um? What? Where have you ever heard that? In my 22 years of life Ive heard exactly zero people say men abusing women is okay
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:25 AM
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I feel like this is the gist of it. Men put on a face in the beginning and when she gets comfortable reveal their true selves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:24 AM
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Honestly id be okay with a virgin housewife if she wanted tons of kid and was a financial burden since if shes noy working the money has to come from somewhere. Sexually prudish might be a deal breaker if it was really bad. Like if she hated sex or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:23 AM
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Sometimes you just cant keep a girl bro no matter what you do. Sometimes they just leave even if you did youre best. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ thats life. Important to remind yourself that the gym and God never leave you tho 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:16 AM
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Thats fine and all but when I said high value i meant high sexual market value. I do think men should have their life in order, and getting your life in order and being pleasant should theoretically increase your SMV, but apparently IRL it doesnt hence "nice guys finish last". Primarily what I'm looking for here is examples of men with high SMV which all in all could just be men with very high bodycounts tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 04:33 AM
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So basically youre saying all men are bad its just that girls give rich and famous guys a chance bc if theyre gonna dleep with a jerk he might as well be rich and famous
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:36 AM
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Seems like celebrities and men who get lots of girls have a lot in common 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:26 AM
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I dont know the "official" definition but in terms of dating and the sexual marketplace a high value man would be someone who is atrractive to a lot of women and has little to no problem talking to women, having sex, getting dates, or getting a GF. A low value man would be someone who has trouble talking to women, trouble getting numbers and dates, trouble having sex, and trouble getting a gf. If you think of men like products, high value men are popular products that lots of people want, hence …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:25 AM
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Guys like Pete are the guys im asking abt. Guys that make other guys go "why him? Hes not hot" but he still stands out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 09:12 PM
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Kit Harington is a big one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 09:10 PM
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Potentially. Still would be easier for them than the average guy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:28 PM
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Disagree. I listed them bc everyone knows who they are. But there are plenty of guys like them who arent famous
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:15 PM
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Makes sense. One of the things I read in the "Forbidden Keys of Persuasion" is to develop a God Complex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:15 PM
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Okay so do you have any examples? If the people I know I know 2 men who get a lot of ladies who arent super duper attractive but the ladies love them. They both have very high confidence and are super laid back and cool. Some of the most interesting guys I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 07:45 PM
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I just read here yesterday that 60-70% of men who cheat cheat bc of lack of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 07:28 PM
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One big reason may be that intense love only usually lasts from a few months to a few years at most, and so if you get married quick & settle down, in a few years she may be feeling restless and bored. That is why you gotta keep life exciting
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 07:27 PM
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And keep your romance game tight, that means ladies blow your man, compliment him, give him a back rub every now and again…..men, help around the house, eat your wife out, take her out for dates you plan and make her feel like the most beautiful woman in the world on a semi-regular basis I am definitely all for this but I feel like even if you do this, the other party can still lose interest. I def. feel like men are easier to keep happy, since buy and large, unmarried women are happier than mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 07:26 PM
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This is basically me but Im fat 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:14 PM
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Yes ofc lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:28 AM
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I've seen quite a few texts from women who lament that men aren't asking them out. Not to be "that guy" here, but I have heard women complaining about guys bothering them much more often than I have heard women complaining guys don't bother them enough
/r/MensRights26/04/22 03:07 AM
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Haha im suckin that shit rn. Ur absolutely right tho. Its destroying my body
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 02:38 AM
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Lmao bruh just going for weak men 🤣 like a bear hunting for baby deer
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 01:09 AM
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Im skeptical, would need to see it first hand. Doesnt mean they SHOULDNT still dress nice tho. Guys should absolutely not go out looking like slobs. That is why I always go out in a three piece, monocle, and walking cane /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 01:08 AM
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True. Im talking physically attractive tho. Ive found there are a lot more physically attractive women than women with good personalities bc they dont need a good personality lmao or whatever pat bateman said in American Psycho (absolutely based and true)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 01:08 AM
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Lmao eye brow trimming LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 12:30 AM
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I mean I highly doubt that would change much at all but go off. Would these men look better? Absolutely. Ive def seen a lot of men walking around in t shirts gym shorts and slides. But i guarantee fuckin t you that if all men started wearing chinos button downs/polos, any shoes besides tennis shoes, groomed their hair, and bathed, which many already do, it would not suddenly make them attractive to 20x as many women. They would just be slightly less unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 12:30 AM
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I think 80% of women are attractive. Most women say they are only attracted to 1% of men. This understandably causes frustration
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 12:28 AM
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Evidence? At least in college it seems like they do
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 12:27 AM
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Lmao absolutely not. I find average looking women hot and sexy too. Its just below average for me. Tbf i find about 80% of women attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 12:25 AM
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Okay, thanks for letting me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:15 PM
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Just for future reference what is considered Incel content here so I can avoid it? The halo effect? Red pill stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:58 PM
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Im gonna sort of agree. I never had success with just CICO and no exercise. My body just lowers my metabolism cuz it thinks im starving. Like rn I barely eat anything. I have 1 big meal for dinner dont eat when I wake up and only have a granola bar or something in the afternoon and yet I my wait has been flat for a year. Ive only ever been able to lose wait when I exercise. I lost 40 something pounds that way. Nothing crazy either just 1hr a day for 3 or 4 days a week half cardio half lifting. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:57 PM
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Nic patches? Like nicorette?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:48 PM
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Absolutely i dont disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:04 AM
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I dont know the right environments LOL maybe ill try the grocery store haha
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:53 AM
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Thats literally what Im saying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:50 AM
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Im trying my boy. Im going to the gym tomorrow and will begin as a new man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:35 AM
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I mean both the first sentence and the last paragraph
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:18 AM
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I mean i guess you could say that. I mean I definitely dont want to be celibate but women dont want to fuck me so that def makes me an incel right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:08 AM
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Google the Rational Male
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:02 AM
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Whats a volcel?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:02 AM
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Tell me abt it bro. Ik
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:02 AM
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Basically it. If she didn't want us when she was in her "prime" then we dont want her now. We know she is settling for us. No one likes to be settled for. We want to be the prize. We don't want to be the thing other people begrudgingly settled for. It hurts our ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:51 AM
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Define "trouble" dating. Do most men find a woman? Yes. Do most men have easy relationships with no drama that cause them zero stress? Absolutely not. The more and more I talk to people, the more and more it seems that people who do date a lot are almost chronically dissatisfied with the relationships and stressed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:50 AM
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Because I'm a fat, lazy slob who has depression and vape too much. I don't have the motivation, willpower, or discipline so I am just sulking in my despair instead
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:49 AM
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TBF I have had all 3 of my girlfriends tell me to my face they don't love me anymore and then went and fucked other dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:48 AM
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You know that thought never crossed my mind. I literally nevr even thought abt that before. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:19 AM
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The "bad" men waiting ? Nah unless theyre talking to a lot of women at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:14 AM
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She didnt sleep with me lmao. She made me wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:01 AM
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The minimum doesnt matter. You got to be the best dude of all the dudes shes talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:56 AM
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Impossible. But i can try. This chick was bottom of the barrel too. Obese as fuck terrible personality probably a 1/10 and still had 5 dudes talking to her and had lots of sex. Imagine how much competition high value women get. What you need is a high value who doesnt know she is high value
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:35 AM
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I mean you can compare anything to anything. The only reason you dislike the metaphor is because you disagree with it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:16 AM
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Exactly that was part of the reason I broke it off
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:15 AM
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Women do cheat a lot LOL. Anyways that chick I was talking to had 5 dudes in her DMs and was going out with 3 of them, including me, and had two sugar daddies in the past, yet she had a hang up with sleeping with me? IDK sounds like its me bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:02 AM
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IDK. I don't know if a woman is or is not comfortable with casual sex right off the bat. Usually she has got to tell me, but if she has got to tell me, then something aint right. Most girls who are really comfortable with casual sex prob wouldnt be fuckin with a guy like me anyways, they got much better options out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:01 AM
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Yea fr I know this already my dude. The fatter / uglier you are the better your personality got to be for her to fuck w you, to a point, until you are literally too disgusting for any kind of funny personality to make up for it. Hot guys can get away with shitty personalities cuz they don't need them. But having good social skills CAN and WILL improve your game, without a doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:00 AM
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They want a mommy to tell them they are okay and they are good boys, which ironically makes them even more unappealing to the majority of women. Freud is that you? Anyways this is true bc men aren't allowed to be vulnerable at all, so the one place they feel like they can open up is around their female romantic partners, who inevitably use that vulnerability to backstab them when the time comes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:55 AM
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Women want men who other women want, and other men want to be. Women would rather share and alpha than settle for a beta
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:55 AM
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However, one of the leading causes of divorce is financial hardship Incorrect. The leading cause of divorce is women. 80% of divorces are initiated by women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:54 AM
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Super good post bro, this one hit the nail on the head: So women now fulfilled one and only one purpose for me, emotional closeness. And if they didn't fulfill that, then they weren't worth the work. Which ironically switched things around for me. Nothing about my personality or humor or physical appearance or fashion changed. I changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:53 AM
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You're missing the point bro. She said that she is always going for the best she can find. Minimum doesn't matter if someone better is on the playing field. It's always abt leveling up. Remember: She's not yours, its just your turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:51 AM
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Pretty much how dating in general works. Women want men who already have it all figured out already. If you have to ask, you're already finished.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:50 AM
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I had guys giving me money, fixing stuff, running errands… one even bought me a car. This is classic simp behavior and I don't respect any guy who does this. If you will completely debase yourself and become a de-facto servant for a woman so you can get a chance to have sex, bro, you're already lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:46 AM
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Less people are having sex than ever, esp the younger generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:45 AM
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I mean, "just be honest bro" is not going to work 99% of the time. You can't just tell a woman on the first date "Hey so the reason I met up with you is bc I want to fuck & be in a relationship with a woman, but I don't know you well enough yet to decide that." That's just not hot at all. Both parties understand know that, but no party wants to explicity say it. I've done both and I will say explicity telling a woman what you want at the very beginning is just ... weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:44 AM
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And the reverse is true. If she is into him enough, she won't wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:43 AM
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Sure, but I do think that large number of men "dropping out of society" is a major issue that should be studied and fixed if possible. Is the modern world just too stressful for people? Why are so many men choosing to throw their hands up in the air and give it all up? This is not something we should ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:42 AM
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LOL yea obv hobbies I do by myself won't get me laid. But I'm not doing them to get laid, I'm doing them because I enjoy them. Journaling and meditation keeps be ground, focused, and conscientious of the day. You shouldn't engage in hobbies you don't like just to get laid. That being said if you do like active hobbies you should absolutely invite women out with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:01 AM
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I'm not 100% sure yet. What do I do on my "average" day in the city? I go to work & school and I like talking to my work friends & doing that. I love to hang out at coffee shops & bakeries and just take in the scenery and work on stuff or read. Occasionally I will go out and do something outside like paddleboarding or kayaking on the lake with my friends. TBF I need to develop my hobbies more. I feel like I just don't have the time or money. I do love visiting national parks but I haven't had a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:56 AM
2

What does "just aim for yourself" mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:42 AM
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A man who will debase himself for sex is no man at all. A true man will not sacrifice who he is for some pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:39 AM
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Yea the main thing left for me is to get in shape and make more money. I have a job, I live on my own, I do all the adult things, I go out with my friends, and I think my personality is pretty okay, so my big problem is my weight. Unfortunately, I am only attracted to conventionally attractive women, but I am not a conventionally attractive man (I was when I as a healthy weight). So I need to be n the gym more & eat healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:37 AM
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Honestly i would say the average mans social skills are better than the avg woman
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:24 AM
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I mean I am a bottom tier man and I know it. I need to stsrt lifting and have better life habits. My personality is okay I think I could be a little funnier but my main issue is that Im obese with a BMI of 31 or 32. Pulling girls was a lot easier when I had a bmi of 27
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:22 AM
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Make me 😈
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:20 AM
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Its not a myth its true tho imo its bc of a decline in ignorance. . People knoe too much about the world and everything nowadays and it makes them anxious and depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:13 AM
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You would think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:08 AM
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Nothing wrong with aiming for sex. Sex is fun and feels goodm thats all the reason I need to want to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:08 AM
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Women would rather share an alpha than settle for a beta
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:06 AM
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True but im not gonna be made to wait if she didnt make every other guy wait. I will only respect waiting if its something she does with every guy. More often than not waiting is just a tool women use to control yoy bc they really dont want to hit it with you. If she actually liked you she'd break all her rules and act like a total slut for you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:05 AM
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Absolutely not, its not beta to be kind. Kindness is a virtue. Its beta to be kind / nice for sex or be super agreeable and never stand up for what you want. People who seek to please everyone are never happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:43 PM
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Bro I have a PhD in statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:36 PM
1

Fair enough. I guess you and I just wouldnt be compatible then. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ oh well
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:27 PM
1

True to a point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:26 PM
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Yea ofc its been less than 48 hours 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:49 PM
1

What situation
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:36 PM
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Yes prob. Bc it might have been worth it. (Although maybe it would not have been idc). Just think high value women are worth more effort to get than low value women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:36 PM
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CC women only exist bc men let them hit too. Maybe if men controlled their urges and didn't try to fuck every hot woman they saw, CC women wouldn't exist? Anyways, a lot of women will open up to men abt their past experiences, so you can always try to be the "accepting, empathetic guy" to get her vulnerable enough to open up and then decide from there. Drinking also helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:35 PM
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Well yea cuz saying I hooked up with him bc he was hot makes u seem shallow so they just say "vibe"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:32 PM
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I am aware, but I still felt bad abt breaking up with her because the way it sounded is that I just wanted her for sex. I didn't just want her for sex, but that was still an incredibly important part of the equation. But dating is expensive, esp for a college guy like me. I felt like if I was gonna spend all this time and money on a girl, we better at least be having sex, and if not, whats the point? I guess if she had a great personality that might be different but this girl didnt
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:31 PM
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Still not an ideal situation. Alimony & child support makes the incredibly difficult task of being a single parent somewhat easier but still no one wants to be a single parent (and they shouldn't)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:29 PM
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Most women withhold sex because there are biologically consequences to sex especially if you are a woman. Thank god we have invented a little thing called protection & birth control so that women can have as much sex as they want without becoming pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:29 PM
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Yes LOL why do you think we are here hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:28 PM
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TBF, sex and intimacy is all that a lot of women have to offer. If it wasn't for that, why would I hang out with you ? I like hanging out with men better anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:27 PM
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Absolutely true. But if shes not ready by date 3-5 then its an indicator she doesn't have interest. I'm also not obligated to spend my time or money on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:26 PM
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I find it hilarious how certain people on this forum are incapable of understanding what a metaphor is
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:25 PM
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As much as everyone hates to admit it, all relationships are transactional at their core. If my GF said "I'm not having sex with you anymore" I'd break up with her. So logically, sex is a required part of the relationship. If she isn’t gulping your cock down with joy quickly, she is not worth bothering with I mean this is pretty accurate. In a perfect world that would be great advice, but most men have so few options that to get any they basically have to put up with women who aren't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:24 PM
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Thats the position I was in. I was like "Why are you making me wait but you have had a bunch of hookups?" That's just a flashing sign that you don't like me LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:23 PM
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How long is "reasonable" to you? I broke up with a girl cuz she was still unwilling by date 5. I just didn't see any interested from her. I was always initiating trying to kiss and have sex. I was like "If this girl really liked me it would have happened by now" I thought she was just using me for my time & money
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:22 PM
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That's bc women know sex is the main reason men are talking to them. They know they can control men with access to pussy. It's their trump card. A high value man won't let that happen and thats why he has power.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:21 PM
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Its also the best way to get a man to jump ship. Men are incredibly easy to keep loyal. All you have to do is have sex often with us and most of us will stay. Dead bedrooms are the number 1 cause of men cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:20 PM
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Example from my own life but I have wanted to be in romantic relationships with girls before and I was willing to wait for sex but if it hasn't happened by date 3 that is a red flag and if it hasn't happened by date 5 or 6 that is grounds to terminate the relationship, which is what I did in my case. I understood that she prob though I just wanted to hit it, I didn't, but I also wasn't willing to keep spending my time & money on her without getting anything in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:19 PM
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No, there are very real issues that are common in promiscuous women vs non-promiscuous women. Study after study have show that non-promiscuous women are more loyal. So from the man's perspective she has a better return on investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:17 PM
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I mean the person who invited the other person out should pay, my first dates are always cheap anyways cuz they are activities so I don't really care. It's just the price of doing business.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:16 PM
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TBH I have been having issues with this. So many women complain that guys just want to "fuck" but when I offer a LTR they "don't know" and "aren't ready." Ofc, that could mean they just don't like me, but it seems they always deny LTRs with average dudes for the possibility of a LTR with a Chad. Tomassi said it best: "Women would rather share an alpha rather than settle for a beta"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:15 PM
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Newsflash: every guy is looking for sex, one way or another. Ask yourself how many men would keep dating their GF or still be married if their wives stopped having sex with them? Zero. Simple as. Sex is a very important part of the equation
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:13 PM
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Yea this was the deal with this girl I was seeing. She was very promiscuous in HS and even had had two sugar daddies (despite being a fat whale) but wanted to "wait until she was ready to have sex with me" I did the math and figured out it wasn't going to work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:13 PM
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They want to know they can trust you first. This is true, but physical attractiveness has been shown to make people seem more trustworthy. So if you're ugly she will either make you wait until she "trusts" you or never let you hit at all, while Chad can hit the same night he met her after 1 whiteclaw at a party
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:11 PM
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So basically, blue pill is women's dating advice, and red pill is men's dating advice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:09 PM
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What are you talking abt? Statistics show that of people who cheat, 70% are women, 30% are male, and the main reason for the 30% of male cheaters is dead bedrooms. So as long as you please your man there is a very low likelihood he will cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:04 PM
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Yea. Its something that women complain abt. Oh the vibe isnt good or whatever. We need to do more research into it tbh. I think part of it is to do with feeling safe, and a lot of women feel unsafe around a guy who they think wants to fuck them. It triggers the rape warning alarm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:02 PM
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Its true
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:01 PM
1

Youre first mistake was using OLD lmao. Only approach in person my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:00 PM
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The group is bad, the individual woman is an exception (probably not)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:00 PM
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Doing things for women while expecting nothing in return is a beta attitude. I learned not to do that from an old boss of mine who was still dating in his 60s after a divorce. He basically said something along the lines of "I wont put up with that shit, Im too old, Ill just end it right then and there"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:59 PM
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70-80% of women cheat tho? Submissiveness on the part of a woman should def be encouraged. You cant have a relationship where neither person is submissive bc what happens is they fight all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:58 PM
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True for me at least. I do wish women werr like they apparently used to be. The modern woman is just not it, frankly, and people in general, both men and women, are more unhappy as a result. Anyways youre right that we should just accept how it is, and then learn the rules of the game so we can play it well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:56 PM
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Unfortunately in dating you cant be 100% up front from the beginning. If I see a beautiful woman I want to fuck, she won't let me fuck if I just walk up and say "I want to fuck you"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:24 PM
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Couldnt have said it better myself bro 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:22 PM
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What I mean is specific differences in dating advice b/w a red piller and a blue piller. Example: Blue Piller: You should do XYZ Red Piller: You should do ABC
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:34 AM
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Social proof is the foundation of this behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:22 PM
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True. I do feel bad abt it which is why Im still thinking abt it. I could have kept things going with her. This morning I was thinking abt what if I didnt break up and just kept talking to her. It just seemed she was never interested in doing anything physical. I was always the one to initiate anything physical. I was investing a lot of time and money in this relationship and not getting anything in return. And while ai know being nice or spending money doesnt get me sex, I still want to be gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:17 PM
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Thats basically it. Thats what I realized when I was talking to this girl. We kept going out but she still didnt want to fuck. She didnt seem attracted to me. So that was that. I broke up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:06 PM
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Romantic nonsexual relationship. Thats what I had. She literally slept naked in bed with me and was comfortable being naked around me but still didnt want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:01 PM
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I ended a relationship with a girl i was seeing for 1.5 months bc she still didnt want to have sex and wanted to take it slow. I respected thar decision but I also didnt think it was gonna work out. If she actually really liked me she be willing to do that asap. Am I the asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:00 PM
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Rollo Tomassi said it best: "Women want men who other women want, and other men want to be"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:57 PM
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Couldnt have said it better myself 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:10 PM
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Not here bro
/r/MensRights22/04/22 11:36 AM
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MensLib is a honeypot designed by women to get men back on the leash. Simple as. Modern feminists cannot afford to have men going their own way.
/r/MensRights22/04/22 10:42 AM
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Yes it is. Priviledge is something unearned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:36 AM
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In my case it is a fear of rejection, cringe, and discomfort mainly. If I can get over my fear of those three Id would have a much easier time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 05:23 AM
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True but fixing style and grooming is WAY easier than lifting or losing weight. The former can be fixed in 1 mall visit, the latter may take years of effort
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 05:05 AM
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Depends on if your married or not. If youre in a relationship ofc leave once u find someone else. Leverage ur gf against other women bc women like guys who are taken more than guys who arent. But leaving a marriage costs a lot so it makes more sense to cheat tbh u are right
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 05:04 AM
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True but i feel like the average Joe who has a healthy body weight is attractive enough. Most people who have issues with ugliness are either fat or deformed. Fatness can be fixed. Just go to the gym bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:53 AM
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Its also youre fault if you are in the friendzone. Its youre choice. If you dont want to be in the friendzone you can just stop talking to her. Easy as that. No one is forced to be in the friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:36 AM
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True. I find a lot of low value women think they are high value because of how women's friendships works. They never criticze or give tough love. If a fat woman posts a picture on her instagram, all of her friends will be like "OMG go gurll" "HOT" etc etc so the ugly girl thinks she is actually hot and acts like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:30 AM
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??? Not true. 73% of people are partnered up or married therefore its impossible women are only attracted to the top 20% of men. Even if half of those are me she settled with thats still 36.5%
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:07 AM
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Most men DO get laid. By 25 the % of virgins is 5% and by 40 its .01% No they dont care Ive had 2 different women i know reject a guy bc he was too short despite being like 5 7 or 5 8. Anyways im average height so its not a problem nor a benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:51 PM
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Most men on PPD are not tall and attractive. Only like 15% of men are 6ft or taller too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:41 PM
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Very good point. You changed my view
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:26 PM
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I can tell you without a doubt funny men are way more attractive than boring men who cant hold a conversation LOL. I never said JUST be funny but its a requirement. You have to escalate too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:25 PM
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True but sometimes you dont know she will be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:54 PM
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You can improve both at the same time. Why not improve both?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:54 PM
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Bc online communication is NOTHING like in person communication like at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:50 PM
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Tbh I feel like a lot of it is learning and emulating. Here is a link I found
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:34 PM
2

So in your opinion, why is dating hard for men today?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:22 PM
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I don't want to be a dick, but I don't think making friends online is any substitute for making friends in person. You need to dive into in-person communication. Also, my advice is for the average person. If you suffer from a severe form of autism or Asperger's syndrome, this advice may not work for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:20 PM
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Idk how tf you only spent $400 in divorce. My parents spent like $25,000 bc they were arguing about everything
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:12 PM
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Nobody wants "average" though they want "the best". People settle for average when they dont have any other options
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:09 PM
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Hanging out in nonsexual social situations doesn't help you practice playful flirting or escalation and doesn't do as much to build confidence in an approach, which is a more highly charged and less casual situation more akin to an interview than a hangout God, you really hit the nail on the head with this one. This is actually what I am struggling with right now. I have basic conversational skills down, but I don't know how to escalate and flirt. Instead of having sexually-exciting conversation…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:07 PM
1

What do you think abt always letting her know you have other options so she has to work for you, instead of her knowing she is your only option for sex & therefore can control you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:04 PM
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All I am here to say is that no self-respecting man should let his woman control him with her pussy. If she is saying "do XYZ and I'll let you hit" that is a big red flag and you need to leave. This is ofc harder if you are married, since you can't just up & leave her like you can in a LTR, but that is why its critical to find a good wife. If you are married, start working out and bettering yourself. She will think "Why is he doing this all of a sudden, is he seeing another woman" and she will w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:03 PM
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You can learn to not be desperate. Maybe it cannot be taught with lectures and can only be taught through experience. Thats probably most things. You cannot teach someone how to be brave.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 07:24 PM
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How do we determine if someone is "unhappy?" At least for me, I have ups and downs. I would say I am generally more happy than I am sad, but I am not happy all the time. I worry about things. I have occasional bouts of depression. I fail sometimes. Everyone has trauma. Everyone has things they don't talk about. There is no perfect person to get into a relationship with. I agree with your point that relationships in general are neutral. They can be good or they can be bad. But I think they are ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 07:12 AM
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First off, don't be needy. Second of all, don't be full of yourself, aka be respectful and don't be rude. Give her just as much attention as she deserves and as the situation requires. Use the push and pull method. Spend a lot of time with her, and then be distant for a little bit. Create the illusion that you don't need her to be happy, or, actually make that a reality, that you don't need her. We chase after things we can't have. Give her just enough attention to keep her hooked, but not enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:57 AM
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There are thousands of men just like us. Stay strong brother 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:28 AM
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Thank you for sharing this story. 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:12 AM
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Actually I do want to change and I dont blame women for my current relationship issues at all. The reasons I am single are because I am obese, I'm not that interesting, i dont have a lot of money, and by social skills are subpar. Every single one of those can be improved with discipline, patience, and hard work. Just because I accept that doesnt mean I still cannot be frustrated. I can absolutrly be frustrated. I know what I need to do, but I have problems with discipline and doing the work and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:20 AM
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Not sure if youre being sarcastic or not but they are much rarer today due to how women are raised and socialized. The average modern woman is much less loyal, more hypergamous, has a higher body count, is unwilling to make sacrifices, and overall is a poor partner for the average man. There are definitely still good women out there but you have to look harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:17 AM
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As I said this conversation is pointless and Im not going to waste my time arguing with you. Good bye
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:15 AM
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Extremely easy for someone with lots of validation to say. Its like a rich person telling a person living in poverty they dont need money to be happy. Anyways this conversation is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:08 AM
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If I’m not emotionally invested in you I’m not interested in fucking you in the slightest. I think this is a huge difference between men and women, and also older people and younger people And when it does happen it’s a nuisance not something most want. Yes this is precisely my point. Its scarcity vs abudance. Imagine validation is like water. You need some to live. If you are drowing in water you will not have a good time but if you are in a desert and dying of thirt you will also want want. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:47 AM
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Lmao thats not how it works. Rubbing one out aint even in the same fucking universe as a good fuck. As I guess you and I are just different. Most men decide within seconds if they want to fuck a woman. Ive heard it takes longer for women to decide. Anyways the whole goddam point your missing here lady is that you people get male validation all the time 24/7 while most men get zero female validation all the time so you cant possibly imagine how we feel but you dont care anyways because from the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:38 AM
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Thats fascinating because I literally think abt women and sex almost all the time. Like maybe a dozen times daily. Morning, afternoon, evening, night, breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Tbf I am a horny 21 year old. I cant imagine not thinking about it. I think about it so much bc im horny 24/7. Do you take any antidepressants or strong birth control. Perhaps your also asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:33 AM
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By giving them advice on how to achieve their goals besides "give up" thats why so many men are drawn to the PUA community. They offer what seems like real workable solutions while most mainstream advice is "give up and stop worrying about it"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:31 AM
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Good for you. I dont care. Once again your missing the point completelt. Also why are you obsessed with this idea that I need a "singular woman"? I don't. My happiness isnt determined by the love of a specific individual woman. I sure would feel a lot better if at least one woman took interest in me because rn it has been a grand total of ZERO for my entire life. How would you feel if ZERO people liked you in a romantic or sexual way? You probably cannot even imagine what that feels like because…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:21 AM
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You people and the strawman arguments. First of all I never said my happiness is dependent on one person. Second of all I never said this is womens problems and that they should fix it. Third of all investing in friendships with other men doesnt cure this problem. I know from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:16 AM
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I dont know where youre indignant attitude is coming from but Id appreciate it if you calm down. No one said anything about taking away consent. I dont know where the hell you got that from. As I have said multiple times the better response would be to help them out. If there is a beggar on the side of the road you would be a bad person if you said "Aint nothing I can do about it, sucks to be you" I can tell you hate men because you are misconstruing my argument. You are using a strawman that I …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:14 AM
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First of all its not your place to tell people what they do and do not deserve. In my opinion people dont deserve anything. Second of all. I can definitelty tell you from experience that some of the happiest times of my life where with my girlfriend and nothing has come close since. No one here is saying getting a gf will fix everything but it can definitely without a doubt make your life better and make you happier. That is the simple truth. This is especially true for guys who in general dont …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:10 AM
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True. Thats why mindset is so important. You have to basically gaslight yourself into being happy so that other people arent put off by you. This is an unfortunate truth of reality but if you are depressed and act depressed like you said no one will want to be around you. That is why mindset is so important
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:08 AM
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That's because they married the wrong woman. There are lots and lots of women who are controlling, paranoid, and toxic. Relationships with those women will definitely make you unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:01 AM
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I do, but I still feel like something is missing. Ofc I enjoy doing things I like doing. I like going for hikes. I like going to coffee shops and studying. I like fishing and boating. I like a lot of things. But it feels like something is wrong when everyone else is getting into relationships and having sex in the prime of their life / college years. That is what normal people do. So to not be doing that implies that I am abnormal. Something must be wrong. And that makes me feel sad. It lowers m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:00 AM
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This precisely. If you want a relationship, there is no other experience that can replace that. Only a relationship can fulfill your desire to be in a relationship. It's like you want a Big Mac but someone gives you a McChicken and says be happy with that because that is all you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:57 AM
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This is also a huge part. If no one chooses you that feels really bad. No amount of positive affirmations can overcome the bad feelings a person gets if they are rejected by society, especially from people they want validation from.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:56 AM
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So then the solution is to teach men how not to be desperate?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:56 AM
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Of course they shouldn't, but you are missing the point entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:55 AM
2

Relationships can absolutely be a source of happiness. If they weren't, nobody would get into relationships. Why would you enter into a relationship if it made you unhappy every single time???
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:54 AM
2

Money absolutely does buy happiness, to a point. I think its marginal after about $80k-$100k in the US and after that the additional happiness goes down. But bringing a impoverished person out of poverty will definitely make that person happier, there is literally zero debate about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:54 AM
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I think you guys are missing the point. Two things can be true at once. People feel a lot better if they have love and belonging. Not having those things can make a person feel depressed. At the same time, no one is owed a relationship. This brings me to the point that it is primarily on the individual to improve their situation, and that is the only way to improve their well-being
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:53 AM
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Romantic relationships are not a requirement for survival like food and water. One can be content without one. This is only true if you have ever been in one, in my opinion. Also, denying human being's need for socialization and intimate connection is wrong. Maslow's hierarchy clear tells us that food and water are requirements for basic survival, but few people if given the choice want to just survive. They want to live. If people's basic needs are met, they crave love and belonging and if they…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:51 AM
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Being in a relationship is better than being alone, but only if you really vibe with your girlfriend. I think this is the whole point. When you enter into a relationship with a girl there is a chance that you could be a LOT happier and there is a chance you could be a lot WORSE off. However, people gamble that they will feel better and that is why they pursue it, because in many cases, being in a loving relationship is superior to being alone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:50 AM
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Humans are social animals. If you remove socialization, friends, family, and loved ones, people will become depressed. This is widely studied. One way you can help depressed people is to help them make more friends first and have meaningful relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:49 AM
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Evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:46 AM
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What if you are unhappy because you are not in a relationship? People always feel unhappy if (a) they want to achieve something they feel is impossible and (b) most other people are achieving that thing. It makes them feel lesser.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:46 AM
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Being in a relationship and having regular sex did make me a lot happier and less depressed than I was before I got into the relationship, so at least in my experience, what you said is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:45 AM
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I agree. I don't think relationships should be your sole source of happiness. But it can be a very great source of happiness, one of the greatest sources of happiness in our lives. It is not hard to be content with your life and have fun doing other things that make you feel happy, but also feel like you are missing out when you see people in happy, loving relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:44 AM
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They wash out. Usually this means resorting to meeting someone in real life or just never finding someone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:42 AM
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A wise man once said men strongly desire sex and women strongly desire getting attention and you can view both genders actions thru those lenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:26 AM
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This is exactly where I am coming from. If you were a kissless virgin and had no LTRs throughout high school and college it is pretty much impossible to see that as a good thing. Any self aware person would realize something is wrong and feel bad about that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:25 AM
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Honestly I agree but im on libido killing antidepressants and Im still horny. Theyd need to be a lot stronger. But yea if it wasnt for sex id probably hang out exclusively with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:45 PM
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Its highly likely he hid that from you and put on a mask
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:56 AM
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Theyre more interested in guys in relationships because those guys have been pre approved by women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:56 AM
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No i just used to use and still use alcohol as liquid courage but it doesnt really work anymore and you still do and say stupid stuff. Better to learn game when youre sober
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:26 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:53 PM
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Obviously the world won't end but if I knew i was going to stay a virgin and not have a GF until I was 30 I would be pretty damn upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:52 PM
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