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nihilist_nancy/r/MensRights28/11/13 07:15 AM
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Fuck that place.
/r/MensRights14/07/14 08:48 AM
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Maybe a gold star on your sleeve would work better. Really, wtf?
/r/MensRights25/01/14 12:37 AM
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Those are far from universal opinions. Intactivism wouldn't exist if your comment had the slightest amount of truth to it.
/r/MensRights25/01/14 12:34 AM
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This is how feminists react when they can't 100 percent control the dialogue.
/r/MensRights25/01/14 12:31 AM
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My experience, and to my great shame as a leftist, feminists and leftists love to mock Alex Jones types (largely due to their politics) while turning a blind eye to batshit crazy conspiracy theories proffered by feminists and leftists. The "patriarchy" being a keen example. Because it's totes not the exact same thing when your side does it. For every "look at what that crazy conservative did" and endless strawmanning of conservatives generally they're ignoring all the shitstains in their own mov…
/r/MensRights25/01/14 12:00 AM
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IF badhistory wasn't already infected with the SRS/SJW mentality.
/r/MensRights24/01/14 11:24 PM
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We know, only the things that happen to women count and despite mass murder of men and boys, boys forced to become child soldiers ad infinitum only women count. Because that's "equality". It couldn't possibly be cafeteria traditionalism.
/r/MensRights24/01/14 11:23 PM
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Child support is spent however the receiver chooses. There are no limitations on how it can be spent. It is non-taxed income that is taxed on the person paying it. Alimony is inarguably income. The only reason we hear anything about Alimony reform these days is because more women pay it and they are incensed that they have to do the same things men have done for over a hundred years. Not a concern for them until they had to pay it. No pay gap not based on equal pay for equal work without equal t…
/r/MensRights23/01/14 04:35 AM
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Ah, the Apex Fallacy! I was wondering when you were going to employ that logical fallacy. I've yet to see a feminist own up to the fact that most men aren't at the top and in fact more men are working poor - including day laborers who aren't even counted. But let's just ignore those shiftless, dirty, lazy latinos amirite? No, let's just focus on the fact that women are more likely to work part-time jobs and have people willing to sustain them whether it be a governmental agency, an NGO, or some …
/r/MensRights23/01/14 04:19 AM
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On rights, privileges, and societal support as well as having the universal support of NGOs and governmental agencies anyone would be insane not to rather be a woman.
/r/MensRights23/01/14 04:02 AM
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I also provided proof of MHRAs being a hate group. They are. Says you. Even the SPLC does not say that. Again their quote: "It should be mentioned that the SPLC did not label MRAs as members of a hate movement; nor did our article claim that the grievances they air on their websites – false rape accusations, ruinous divorce settlements and the like – are all without merit. But we did call out specific examples of misogyny and the threat, overt or implicit, of violence." The irony of a trans lesb…
/r/MensRights23/01/14 03:57 AM
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But I suppose you don't believe in the patriarchy, either. I prefer to keep my fictional constructs in literature thanks. Of course the fact that men have been hit hardest by the recession isn't a concern on your part. Nor is the fact that the education gap is a direct feeder into the current state of affairs something you care about. No, consistently you care only for women. and I do think that this socialization benefits men in the workforce. Which is a bigoted and ignorant point of view based…
/r/MensRights23/01/14 03:46 AM
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Only if "progressive" is defined as "benefits women more than men". What I like best about this argument is that at no time have you taken umbrage at the fact that men's contraception or vasectomies are not covered and you're fine with men paying money for women - as long as it never has to be reciprocated. And all those sex acts were in order to achieve live birth. Again - where are your citations? the ratio of sexually suggestive images of males to females would be equal. Instead, women make u…
/r/MensRights23/01/14 03:03 AM
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Yes well not to mention we've got a right wing onslaught that thinks it's outrageous that men should have to pay premiums for maternity leave and care, too. It is outrageous. Women get all the benefits of ACA as I've shown above and men get to carry the load. Quite progressive. You could even say it perpetuates negative stereotypes. There is no evidence of sex existing for any other reason. Just because something feels good and we can find other uses for it doesn't mean that it exists for any re…
/r/MensRights23/01/14 02:35 AM
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Possibly. I doubt it though. Besides I like baiting them and egging them on.
/r/MensRights23/01/14 02:23 AM
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I don't get this. It's remarkably common. Maybe you forgot that AMR exists for a reason, or that both they and SRS consistently brigade. It's not a "persecution complex" when it's an actual thing.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 09:06 PM
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But not the reality of it.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 08:49 PM
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Thanks for the explanation Noodle, z3k3.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 08:30 PM
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That's because you're butting in here and haven't seen her behavior over the last two days including two articles of hers I reported. It isn't a "normal question" and I have neither the desire nor tolerance in life to not call a spade anything other than a spade. She's a bigot. So what's your angle? The point (s)he gives is that woman are expected to raise the kids and don't get 'that flexibility' either. The point she gives fails to show that society has dramatically changed since the 1950s. Sh…
/r/MensRights22/01/14 07:43 PM
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We know she made the story up. Is "allegedly" the new pussy pass? *Brigade more bigots.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 09:19 AM
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If it makes you a better debater or if you're doing it to convince others then it's worthwhile. Most of those I argue with I know damn well I won't change their minds but it keeps me sharp and I know that when other people read it they will see which of us the psycho is.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 09:01 AM
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Or even remotely to the same degree women are. Stop playing into their hypoagency.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 08:57 AM
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Awesome. :)
/r/MensRights22/01/14 08:47 AM
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I'm glad you did this. Really glad. I just hope you're prepared for all the abuse you're going to get over it as well.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 08:45 AM
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Do whatever you want. You're a traditionalist and that's fine - not something I agree with at all but it's your choice. You might be a better fit for TRPWomen.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 08:42 AM
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Stalking is cool as long as you're a misandric piece of shit.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 08:36 AM
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The Atlantic is garbage and went full on SJW in the last 18 months. In fact every left leaning news organization other than the NYT and WP have jumped on this train with gusto. News quality and editorial integrity is at an all time low. Hearst would chortle himself into a coma if he could see what his former fiercest rivals look like now - having copped all the same techniques. The battle for the bottom of the barrel.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 08:34 AM
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I don't, no. Men don't get that flexibility - and no one cares about their issues. Part of the evidence of that is you coming in here with your shitty attitude and statements that - despite every article posted here - men have no problems. Nor does anyone care about labor anymore. Yes, they just have to face those sacrifices at divorce by keeping their ex in "the manner they are accustomed to" and in child support payments as the woman is presumed to be the primary caregiver whether she was or n…
/r/MensRights22/01/14 08:01 AM
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The first doesn't claim what you says it does. There is nothing there that proves that more insurance covers viagra than birth control. Considering that Obamacare currently covers more conditions for women than men (and doesn't require insurers to cover vasectomies but does for tubal ligation). So that point you have not proved during 2008 when 27 states mandated equal coverage. Politifact calls this claim mostly false: "A study by the Guttmacher Institute in 2002 found that 86 percent of employ…
/r/MensRights22/01/14 07:53 AM
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After all, isn’t closing the gender gap the true definition of feminism? Someone drank the kool aid. Other than that it's a good piece. Not that anyone will care any more now than they have for the past thirty years. Hoff-Sommers, Helen Smith, Cathy Young et. al. are allowed to get their minimal attention in the public view while the professional victims control the money and the dialogue.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 06:25 AM
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Waiting for endrhymes, or some other AMR/SRS type, to come in and explain how very lucky the special needs student is that any woman would want him in 3...2...1.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 06:13 AM
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Women are just more careful! Men are all klutzes!
/r/MensRights22/01/14 06:08 AM
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lol. The wage gap doesn't exist. A woman is not being paid less for being a woman. Women make different choices and never work in construction for example. There has never been a comprehensive study that shows that two people are making different amounts with the only variable being gender. The only reason this "gap" exists is due to manufacturing outrage by feminists who are desperate to cling to any perceived injustice rather than any interest in equality.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 06:07 AM
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With priapism.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 06:03 AM
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No, I can find sources that are real and not manipulated. You cannot. If that were not true you'd be citing them. If "your country" had a prevalence of providing more in the way of insurance benefits for men rather than women in the area of sexual health that would be an objective indisputable fact. As would be single mothers being denied benefits, male victims of DV being treated equally or better instead of more commonly being arrested, or that men are actually treated better by the criminal j…
/r/MensRights22/01/14 05:41 AM
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Ugh, Valenti.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 05:29 AM
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First, please never directly link there - we don't want to give that piece of shit traffic. Second, AMR is essentially his sub and they have about as much interest in seeing equal rights as the Klan does. Third, feminism isn't now and never was about equality - that was just rhetoric to fool the rubes. I appreciate the effort but these people are vermin.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 05:28 AM
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^ The letter to the editor they deserve.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 05:22 AM
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I thought feminists wanted equality? lol
/r/MensRights22/01/14 05:20 AM
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Check your ink privilege shitlord!
/r/MensRights22/01/14 05:20 AM
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BBC. There were at least 3 threads in the last couple days on this sub talking about how it mollycoddles women offenders and demonizes men. We have the outlets that support our point of view. The Mail carries an actual columnist that supports it. Ergo, the sub supports it regardless of any other indiscretions it may make. You take the hand you're dealt.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 05:09 AM
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No matter what you say, it is true. Cite. You make these ridiculous assertions - cite them. I can't wait to see your links that show that male victims of domestic violence are treated equally or with more respect rather than arrested due to notions such as the Duluth Model your team dreamt up in order to demonize men. or every man hating woman out there ensuring special grants and loans for undeserving other women, there are a thousand men, now and throughout history, who have been treating wome…
/r/MensRights22/01/14 05:05 AM
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You didn't. You also didn't keep it in mind that the Mail is the only one that has a solid columnist that addresses men's issues or that they're the only paper that even addresses them let alone not demonizing them. Case in point being how the Beeb does its level best never to call a woman a perpetrator of any crime or go into contortions in order to claim a mother isn't a murderer. The Guardian consistently runs misandric artlcles as well as its sister paper the Telegraph. And on and on. All ne…
/r/MensRights22/01/14 04:43 AM
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Because all the other outlets give two shits about men. Oh, wait.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 04:38 AM
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The Beeb, Telegraph, Guardian, not pieces of shit because they consistently espouse misandric positions amirite? Methinks thou doth protest too much.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 04:35 AM
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the chances are that the offender, male or female, will encounter a majority of males if they commit an offense, many of whom will likely be more sympathetic to a poor, wrongly accused, innocent guy I am doubled over in laughter that's so funny. You really should be a comedian. Women are not taught to dominate. They are rarely taught to objectify, and if so, it is even less often sexual objectification. The hits keep coming. TIL there were no feminists advocating for women in management position…
/r/MensRights22/01/14 03:34 AM
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It would be great to get some opinions on the movie from a variety of scandanavians. I think it will be some time before it's available to purchase though. I'd love to see it get some exposure on HBO, for example.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 03:12 AM
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Fair enough. I'm talking about how Divorce Corp talks about "how Scandanavia treats divorce differently" and includes only those two countries. I suspect part of this is due to there being a more adversarial stance in Norway as I understand it. Denmark wasn't addressed at all either.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 02:19 AM
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Of course. Feminism isn't and never was about equality.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 02:10 AM
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Because guys trying to double team a clearly hesitant drunk girl in a bathroom is so remarkably common. The vileness of these people knows no bounds. Clearly only men rape - all of them.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 02:00 AM
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As a former bar and club worker it is far more likely to find women drinking in the bathroom and there's always a shit ton more bottles and glasses in there to remove after.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 01:43 AM
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And whatever you do, do not listen to feminists. That's good advice to everyone.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 01:38 AM
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Downvoted and reported. This is not a feminist sub and everything you post is entirely fact-free.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 01:37 AM
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Safe as in actually treats men as human beings? I'm not aware of it. Divorce Corp makes an attempt at claiming Sweden and Iceland aren't as fucked up as the rest of the west (you know - "Scandanavia". If Scandanavia didn't include Norway, Finland or Denmark that is).
/r/MensRights22/01/14 12:45 AM
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I don't know about Finland but even free speech has its limits. Trying to get a municipality to sue a magazine like this here would be an uphill battle since feminism controls the same governmental hierarchy they like to call "the patriarchy".
/r/MensRights22/01/14 12:43 AM
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Nope. Of course leave it to manboobz or the other vile AMR types to dig into some incredibly obscure misogynist who uses the same font as a manosphere blogger to tie it all together.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 12:39 AM
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You need to get counseling and the best lawyer you can. You cannot put this thing back together and the part of you that wants to is batshit crazy.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 12:34 AM
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This isn't a feminist sub. Downvoted and reported.
/r/MensRights22/01/14 12:32 AM
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I don't blame you. If you're having trouble parsing 511.org then just pm me.
/r/MensRights21/01/14 10:03 AM
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"The patriarchy" doesn't exist. Male rape is the majority of rape in the U.S. The majority. And female rapists are something feminists have done their absolute best to make invisible with ideologues such as Mary P Koss ensuring that what happens to men be considered sexual assault rather than rape. Being forced to penetrate is rape that occurs. What I will say is that the vast majority (and I mean vast, over 90% every time) of cases involve women being used, and men profiting. Requires citations…
/r/MensRights20/01/14 07:42 PM
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I don't see an alternative. No one is going to agree to get rid of Selective Service since no one cares about men. It will take decades in order to get people to even give a shit about boys, let alone men so where is this idea that this is even possible without involving groups that the public does care about?
/r/MensRights20/01/14 07:33 PM
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i quite agree with your first sentence. Your second is more theoretical and I disagree. Individual rights are a concept that basically ends as soon as you leave a space that you don't completely occupy by yourself. Nor do I find that either individual rights nor collective responsibilities necessarily trumps the other except in certain circumstances. Regardless this is more a theoretical and philosophical argument.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 07:29 PM
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That is some comedy gold. TIL there are no female pimps, no Madams, no women directors or producers of porn and that there is no porn that is directed at women at all including lesbian porn. So you're a sex-negative feminist i.e. batshit crazy ideologue. When your team decides it needs to wear a Mao suit or a burqa you can come back and state this utterly ridiculous tripe. You don't have a problem with women trading on their sex appeal, you have a problem with anyone else benefiting. Where are y…
/r/MensRights20/01/14 07:25 PM
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It doesn't matter. His choice is to close the account or stop the income. It's better to go to jail over it than let someone railroad you should the judge be that much of a bigot. The power that you do have - always use it.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 07:14 PM
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No, nearly everyone believes in a mix of collective responsibility and of individual rights. On each issue and to what matter of degree is where people generally differ.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 07:13 PM
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Of course you ignore those things. They are not force. It is, actually. The "base state of humanity" isn't for 2 percent to have 99 percent of the wealth either. That's a completely manufactured state of affairs. Society is what we choose it to look like. Most of those in the military are poor. Inner city recruiting stations are one of the most effective tools the military has. Liking someone has nothing to do with either logic or morals.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 06:58 PM
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The fact that she cleaned out the account means she hasn't got a leg to stand on. She has no right to that money until a judge says so and once put to the judge that she cleaned out the account and left him destitute as a result she will be in at least as much hot water provided the judge looks at the situation fairly or he has a good lawyer.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 06:53 PM
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Quite. Have you seen Divorce Corp.? Lawyers are the legislators and the primary beneficiaries of most laws. Everything revolves around their need to be paid.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 06:48 PM
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Only if by voluntary you ignore crushing poverty and limited options. Only in a country with a basic wage and guaranteed housing would this be a fair burden.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 06:46 PM
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Give them a week.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 06:44 PM
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If I had a thousand dollars I'd bet it on the cat, that's how sure I am that no one cares about what happens to boys.
/r/PussyPass20/01/14 06:34 PM
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You should have read to the bottom to get Rangel's take.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 12:08 PM
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irrelevant to the sub.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 12:03 PM
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The best argument is to state that the recording was tampered with if it doesn't clearly show her initial outbursts. A tampered recording still is not admissible in most jurisdictions. So far, this is he said she said.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 12:01 PM
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It doesn't matter what you did. Cop to nothing. Lawyer up immediately and give no statements to anyone without an attorney present. Get a TRO against her. This is the only way you have a chance at all of ever seeing your kids again. Her mental issues will not help her and are admissable and should be used as such. Be the first to get the moving papers and ask for sole custody based on her inability to keep her mental issues in check if there are children. Make sure you are the moving party if at…
/r/MensRights20/01/14 12:00 PM
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Well one is an MHRA who chooses to call herself a feminist, and the other is a self-loathing misandrist looking to profit off of his self-loathing and build up his pathetic ego while actually being a female supremacist.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 11:47 AM
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Clearly the fact that women can't be bought and owned by men and women's clear duplicity in those ads in order to finance their own lives means nothing to a batshit insane ideologue like yourself.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 11:45 AM
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This woman is a complete jackass, she doesn't care if it affects men in the same situation and on top of it she fails to grasp that many political marriages are of convenience and not "romantic love" - itself a sop to female supremacists. Anything that doesn't mean some man kissing some womans ass at all times in the exact way she wants it = abuse.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 11:40 AM
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The Fawcett Society among others in the UK. I suggest following Man Woman Myth and justice for men and boys UK as well as asking those gentlemen for any UK references you can get. If you have trouble tracking them down go the the A Voice for Men website. Edited to add: Harriet Harman is a wealth of misandric statements and politics and the push for women exclusively to never to prison time are a couple big deals in the UK lately.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 11:32 AM
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If you're that worried about the father your options are to get armed or move out of state. IF you have friends and family that are well-armed then maybe stay. Chances are good this will blow over. However, let her know that you will pay for the abortion and let that be your final communication to her. Extreme options (other than the Leykis Hail Mary one which I'm not familiar with) in case you have little to no money: join the military or French Foreign Legion. The latter if it looks like she's…
/r/MensRights20/01/14 11:20 AM
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That is not how it's going to be removed. It would require people care about men, which they do not.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 09:41 AM
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Going through Planned Parenthood generally does. I don't know his particular case but many insurances cover tubal but not vasectomies.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 08:28 AM
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Not gonna pry. There is 511.org as well.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 08:16 AM
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Another option is Amtrak Capitol Corridor.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 05:15 AM
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Old Sac is nice. There's a few semi-decent nightclubs in town too. Sadly I've never had a decent meal in Sac so I can't say anything there. The most pleasant trip to my mind would be round trip Amtrak with or without a m/hotel stay.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 05:14 AM
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Doubly nice to see a socialist not get sucked into the lies.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 05:07 AM
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Your belief and experience is not everyone's. Nor should it have happened to you would it necessarily been a positive outcome psychologically.
/r/PussyPass20/01/14 02:27 AM
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Which means you're trivializing what she's done to these kids. *To be crystal fucking clear since one of those boys will be paying child support to his rapist for 18 years the least the state should have done was imprison her for 20. Imagining that men will ever get these sorts of lenient sentences is a pipedream that will never and could never happen. http://ktla.com/news/stories/redlands-teacher-accused-of-having-sex-with-students/#ixzz2puO4Z2SS http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/calif-t…
/r/PussyPass20/01/14 02:23 AM
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Are you telling me women have privilege? No, sorry unpossible. People are willing to believe the worst about men at all times. Being "uncomfortable" or not wanting it all the time makes you "not a man". Both traditionalists and feminist work these stereotypes hard. To me the fact that they're willing to overlook the physiological reasons entirely is why I consider it to be the women are wonderful effect.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 10:00 PM
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I completely agree.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 09:55 PM
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The falsely accused get far more time. Men behind in their child support debt get far more time. 4 months is nothing. For the number of years she should have done it's fucking insulting.
/r/PussyPass19/01/14 09:55 PM
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I actually find this a fascinating case. I'm conflicted about the possible outcomes - and frankly this is the one case I could see that pushes the anti-abortion message from generally insane to viable. There are so many ethical and moral questions, let alone legal ones. To be clear I wasn't saying you were wrong to post it here - I just didn't see why exactly. Regardless thanks for the civil conversation.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:28 PM
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It appears to be more than a choice, but is in part biological. I think that ties directly into what I'm saying about the effect. People are more than happy to find any reason to find women innocent of even the most heinous crimes and give them a pass. That's why phrases like pussy pass are so common and considered truisms. Facts never enter into the opinions of those people. Another example would be where feminists claim there must be more inroads and less "obstacles" in education despite the o…
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:20 PM
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That is a fact, yes. However, without a living will or power of attorney does he really have those rights? Are those rights being trampled because he's a man? What I'm trying to say here is that it doesn't seem to me to be as much a men's rights issue in the sense that he is being discriminated against for being a man. Would the treatment be different in a lesbian relationship? One of the biggest complexities of the case is due to the pregnancy and how Texas law addresses this. I'd argue that th…
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:04 PM
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I wasn't being facetious I was asking a genuine question. If I understood I would not be asking it. There are a number of issues that I see here - whether or not the child has a right to be born, whether the hospital or state has the right to make that determination, potential issues of living wills/power of attorney (which I don't recall being an issue in this case), and other legal questions of the family's rights. If you're arguing that this doesn't occur in two women households under the sam…
/r/MensRights19/01/14 12:46 PM
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I'm pretty much the worst person ever at telling someone how to parse twitter. If I recall the conversations were about the fifth or sixth messages down - look at all the @ tags - and click expand conversation. I'm afraid that's the best I can do. If you're a person, who like me, disables a lot of javascript you'll have to allow the twitter related scripts to get it to work at all. Good luck.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 10:31 AM
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Or at least living them out.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 10:01 AM
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And you can kick him to the curb once he's served his purpose.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 09:54 AM
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While having been off for two years disadvantaging themselves.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 09:52 AM
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I second this as the best non-nuclear advice.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 08:42 AM
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That should be reported to administration, in letter form. Hand delivered and by registered mail - not just to the local administration but to its overseeing body as well. Also bring up this completely inappropriate political indoctrination in an English class. It's worth it. Edited to add: this is clearly the nuclear option. Not all people are comfortable with that or are willing to go to the wall for something they believe in. To be clear that should not be taken as a judgement. While I think …
/r/MensRights19/01/14 08:41 AM
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All feminism is based on the same tenets: that women have always been, are now, and forever will be oppressed no matter what - particularly upper and upper middle class white women, and that literally no amount of affirmative action will make up for it. All feminism claims as facts manipulated statistics, manufactured theories and outright lies. So while you claim never to have met anyone as misandrist in person I venture to guess you've literally never seen your friends feed on FB unless every …
/r/MensRights19/01/14 08:30 AM
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That was awesome.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 08:26 AM
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Oh, please. I've seen feminists get special snowflake status over there personally. The mods talked about it ceaselessly about a month ago. Spare me your ridiculous apologies for their actions. Feminism isn't lying about shit. TIL that feminists are constantly arguing the dictionary definition of feminism is wrong and that it isn't and never was about equality. Feminism is a belief system entirely built on manipulation and lies and you have to stones to tell me up is down and black is white.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 08:03 AM
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4 months says it's ok.
/r/PussyPass19/01/14 07:51 AM
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Put these two out to a main sub and watch which feminists are more concerned about.
/r/PussyPass19/01/14 07:50 AM
3

I'd like to ask what the relevance here is.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 07:41 AM
1

I'm hopeful that you're referencing the satanic "scandals" of the '80s and '90s but I suspect I'm being too optimistic.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 07:26 AM
3

I saw this story on HuffPo I believe as well. The misandry is strong.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 07:25 AM
14

Facts don't real. "Feminists are gay male allies!" Yeah, right. Trying to co-opt lgbt issues doesn't make you an ally.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 07:24 AM
2

I'm going to guess that the only reason this won't end up being a mistrial or acquittal will be due to their race and class. Plea down to second degree or voluntary manslaughter with 12 years? We should start a pool on these cases.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 07:20 AM
2

Yeah, it was never feminists fighting to have DV and divorce laws to be completely slanted. Nope.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 07:09 AM
6

Feminism is not under any obligation to directly address men's issues. Then it should stop lying about what it stands for. FEMRADebates is a carebear fest that seeks only not to hurt the fee-fees of "poor down-trodden" feminists.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 06:52 AM
6

There is nothing gender neutral in an article that calls a man asking for support a "pussy move". This is her covering her own ass - that's all. Alimony is fair in the sense that both sides have to pay it. What she objects to is not getting a sweet deal. If her concern was alimony overall her article would have covered the perpetual alimony bills that were attempted in Florida and elsewhere. This is a rich girl crying "poor me, I have to do what men have done for well over a hundred years". Ther…
/r/MensRights19/01/14 03:05 AM
6

At no point is she pointing out how CA divorce law is unfair to men - just "unfair" to her because she made some money. We're responding to both the incredible irony and rampant self-interest. Common facets of feminists. Prenups are effectively useless in CA anyway. This story would only be more ironic if she'd gotten one and it had been dismissed for the benefit of her ex. CA divorce law is not unfair to women - at all. Basically she's saying it's outdated because it hurts her. All this article…
/r/MensRights19/01/14 02:31 AM
12

His twitter feed. The link is at the bottom of the HuffPo UK page.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 02:26 AM
1

I knew this would happen and called it. Just a matter of time before Cathy Young shows up (within 5 years).
/r/MensRights19/01/14 02:12 AM
1

I agree although I do not consider her a feminist.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 02:07 AM
13

Gold. Ironically this would never get published by HuffPo US.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:58 AM
2

Good. Now when an equal number of women are paying an equal to or greater amount of money to men then we can change things. After all we wouldn't want to deprive feminists of equality.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:52 AM
7

http://www.azfamily.com/news/Jailed-woman-accused-of-murder-for-hire-plot-related-to-her-case-240346831.html For the Mail haters. Look up Beanes name in a search engine to find plenty more corroborating stories.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:46 AM
6

I'll say it here like I did on ainbow - she is a fucking hero. This is how feminism should also be tackled.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:37 AM
2

But this is a reliable news outlet not like the Mail! Reliable = misandric.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:34 AM
2

Women are Wonderful effect. Why fighting feminism is an uphill battle. Everyone thinks better of women.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:33 AM
6

I can only hope she has to pay him forever.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:26 AM
13

California laws are horribly unfair - if you're a man. Alimony is much the same everywhere and Divorce Court is loosey-goosey as all hell. Alimony is your least concern when getting married - or divorced.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:25 AM
6

Exactly. Plus he's being employed to work for her when he should be getting the custody and visitation as well.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:23 AM
7

Not personally beneficial so it's a non-issue to her. Just as feminism is entirely about extending rights and privileges ad infinitum with no corresponding responsibilities.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:21 AM
4

Pre-nups aren't generally worth anything - particularly if they're beneficial to the man. Item 1. Don't marry. Item 2. Never sign anything that could ever possibly backfire on you. Unless you're rich never sign a pre-nup. Pre-nups are for the benefit of the richer partner against the poorer one.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:18 AM
3

This really can't be voted up enough.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:14 AM
24

An accurate description of feminism overall.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:13 AM
1

Which is a reasonable concern.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 01:11 AM
3

Yet we can still see the article and the thread can we not? The whole article should have been nuked and in any other sub you'd have been banned which is the only reason you're able to trade in your holier than thou bullshit here.
/r/MensRights18/01/14 11:21 PM
8

Your post here is clearly not self-serving and your original post wasn't at all an attempt to attack men's rights using our sub. Are you always so disingenuous? Please try doing the same bullshit by posting a men's rights issues in a feminist sub while being as obstreperous as you were in that conversation with the mod. I will look forward to your immediate banning.
/r/MensRights18/01/14 11:17 PM
5

From over 20 years ago. Clearly feminists are deeply concerned with the poor and gender equality.
/r/MensRights18/01/14 02:53 PM
37

Concerned as in will do anything and everything to ensure that men's rights are never and will never be addressed.
/r/MensRights18/01/14 02:51 PM
1

So much glare. Way too white and light. Hurt my eyes to look at it.
/r/MensRights18/01/14 02:48 PM
1

Sadly you do have a point.
/r/MensRights18/01/14 10:50 AM
1

They do so much evil that we don't need to make up anything - just get it out there.
/r/MensRights18/01/14 10:50 AM
1

Now this is a useful bot.
/r/MensRights18/01/14 10:48 AM
1

I suspect this is sarcasm but for some reason this comment went over my head.
/r/MensRights18/01/14 10:45 AM
1

That you come from Sweden where the feminists are more concerned about how much space men take up on the bus than on real issues. You can debate and argue all you like here. I don't care. Just don't pretend that feminism is about equality because your conversation would never get past the mods in any feminist sub on reddit had you been advocating for men's rights. What I tire of is the unexamined and bigoted opinions of people that take a "gender studies" class and have never worked in the real …
/r/MensRights18/01/14 08:26 AM
0

Which would be great if mainstream feminists were interested in sharing the wealth. They are not. I'm not really sure if you're referring to what I wrote or the person I responded to wrote. I promised myself that I was going to take a break from the sub so you're on your own with whichever it is since I'm not willing to parse the entire conversation now. I suspect the gist of what you're saying is that we should try to find ways to alleviate the pain the other side gets in order to "rise above".…
/r/MensRights12/01/14 11:56 AM
2

Thanks!
/r/MensRights11/01/14 12:47 PM
2

I know - I get sarcasm. I knew what you meant but it just ended up having the opposite effect on me. That says to me I need a break. SRSSucks, the other sub I spend the most time in. There's only so much bigotry and self-righteous discrimination from people one can take. Of all the ironies the people acting as the biggest bigots claim they're fighting for social justice. Anyway, sorry. Not your problem, it just hit me wrong.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 12:41 PM
2

I can't even joke about this shit anymore. I think I'm gonna take a break from this and SRSS for a bit.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 12:35 PM
6

Ah, the Beeb. So well known for caring about men and boys. I wonder how bad the Guardian and the Beeb have to get before the vehemently anti-Mail people pull their heads out of their collective asses. They couldn't possibly have weaseled their way out of calling the mother a murderer any more than they did.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 12:10 PM
1

No, but I'm slowly moving my accounts over to gmx and liking them very much so far.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 12:07 PM
1

I don't understand this comment at all.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 02:40 AM
-3

Exactly where is your concern for homeless men, for poor men, for fathers unable to see their children, for children unable to see their fathers? You know, that whole house of disadvantage that feminism built.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 12:27 AM
2

There sure is a lot of organic voting in this here article.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 12:22 AM
1

Derailing!
/r/MensRights11/01/14 12:22 AM
2

They are.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 12:21 AM
2

No. It's acceptable and even honored in women. Being pregnant is weakness - and in that weakness is social strength. Women are cherished and always have been - under traditionalism at least as much as under feminism. Tell that to feminists that are consistently working hard to disadvantage men. If you want to go on and on about some ridiculous malarkey about how women are treated so poorly I'm going to have to ask for extensive citations. Unless you're over 50 you've never even seen discriminati…
/r/MensRights11/01/14 12:17 AM
1

That would seem to be the case. I find it hard to believe you, of all people, are seeking to give her a pussy pass. She took the deal, thought about reneging and then complained the whole time as if she didn't sign off on it. This isn't a miscarriage of justice - it's the typical attitude of "I still didn't do anything wrong because vagina". Both perps took deals that gave them 30 years.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 12:12 AM
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Of course not. Fathers are marginalized and oppressed every day in family courts in most of the west. Homeless men are marginalized. Poor men are marginalized. Transwomen are marginalized. Cis women, particularly white middle and upper class cis women - not at all.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 04:38 PM
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They don't have to be mutually exclusive, that's true. Some people do though quite rarely. It's more often that they contribute to NOW which actively works to disadvantage men - and specifically fathers - while concerning themselves solely with those women overseas (while simultaneously never concerning themselves with how men are treated in these same countries).
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:57 PM
-1

As opposed to the way fathers or homeless men are treated in the U.S. that feminists couldn't give two shits about. What really matters is people thousands of miles away that you essentially can have no impact on. Ignoring what's local - that's empowering those women on the African continent.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:45 PM
6

oti is essentially feminist/feminist apologist in all the comments I've seen them make in this sub.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:42 PM
3

"She understands it perfectly. You're the one that misunderstands it."
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:16 PM
10

Be sure to use plenty of lube.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:13 PM
5

That's feminism.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 02:35 PM
2

True in every case.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 01:51 PM
20

Yet she has not been perma-banned from editing, just fired. I'm loving all the white knightery for her actions.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 01:42 PM
1

You're telling the wrong side. We know how douchey their team is.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 01:36 PM
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Feminism is a discipline that has been constructed through years of debates, studies and research. All of which were fiddled with to determine a specific outcome. Puhlease.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 01:21 PM
3

The indoctrination you've received makes it appear as if you've found yourself in the wrong sub.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 01:18 PM
2

No, they aren't acceptable because men aren't allowed weakness or emotions. It has zero to do with shame of the female. Feminism is the primary reason we need a men's movement since it is all about disadvantaging men for the advantage of a tiny subset of women. Downvotes doesn't change objective reality bigots. Not that you could be accused of understanding or empathy. Please continue to show what fine upstanding citizens you are.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 01:16 PM
0

No shit. It's been established that he's likely to be of diminished capacity. You're acting like the equivalent of someone screaming in a movie theater at the person in scary movie doing something dumb - it's not going to change anything. You act as though what he went through would have no effect on anyone regardless of how someone is wired. It ain't so.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 01:09 PM
2

I have no idea how you paved your way through that. Like so many Tumblr pages if the layout and color scheme is messed up I can't even parse the damn thing.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 11:20 AM
1

If you read the article it sounds like she thought she could get a better deal and then prosecutors informed her there was no way that was going to happen. That's supposition on my part. She chose the negotiated deal and she's been convicted as a result. I'd say that's proven.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 09:54 AM
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Victim-blaming.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 05:35 AM
1

In the U.S. that generally means you get the same sentence, barring a pussy pass. I'm unfamiliar with UK laws but they did mandate that women do less time.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 05:34 AM
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Is there a UK source that is unbiased and doesn't fabricate? We know the Guardian does, I've seen it constantly complained about that the Mail gets used here (despite a very good columnist working there and the fact they're the only paper I've seen that isn't consistently misandric from the UK). Same story from the always anti-male Beeb:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-25642431
/r/MensRights10/01/14 05:28 AM
1

I'm going to see this tomorrow. Look forward to it.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 05:20 AM
1

Why? The only thing that made me rage was the color scheme on the page that kept me from being able to read more than a paragraph.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 05:13 AM
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Seeing a woman get a sentence like this is exceedingly rare. However, here she is trying to get sympathy and working the victim card to the end: In the letter, said she “was made” to sign the plea agreement with no explanation. “I want to fight for my freedom,” she wrote. “To be pushed to take a plea and admit guilt to an act I am not guilty of is not justice.” From the original link: http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2014/jan/06/silverdale-woman-in-torture-case-to-be-sentenced/#axzz2pdK82OSA
/r/MensRights10/01/14 05:13 AM
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The reason I think it's imperative to attack the feminist movement is because of its impact, its funding and its choking of any other issues that aren't theirs. The other reason is that is a fundamentally dishonest movement based on lies and manipulations which deeply offends my sense of justice, decency and right and wrong. That's the problem - no one does care about men. It's a slow process to get anyone to see, let alone acknowledge, that boys and men are at a terrible point in the west - and…
/r/MensRights10/01/14 04:13 AM
3

Thank you.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 04:00 AM
0

What's the most common reaction to someone hearing the words "men's rights"? A spit take. An eye roll. A glare. A laugh. I don't deny there's a subset of people that don't want to pay taxes. Generally they're the people that want no social spending at all and would concurrently argue against governmental financial support for abortion for example. What percentage they are of the overall group neither of us know. I'd argue far less than 50 percent but that's based on anecdotal evidence. The large…
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:52 AM
-4

Safe spaces are only for the privileged - i.e. not men.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:47 AM
3

Easily. He didn't want to and chose not to due to his own beliefs.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:46 AM
1

Except he was found to have broken their rules so next time - when it will more than likely be a woman - it will be enforced.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:45 AM
3

There is a tremendous difference between a one-off meeting in an online course and asking for the seating to be changed in an in-person school setting.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:43 AM
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so a woman who didn't feel comfortable working with men shouldn't be accommodated either. Which would cause a media field-day and feminists coming out of the woodwork in order to support this "poor victim".
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:40 AM
3

An "accessory to sexism" when it's a man requesting it. Respecting a need for "safe spaces" when a woman does.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:36 AM
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Feminism is the revolutionary idea that men aren't people. Downvote away bigots, won't change the facts.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:24 AM
2

I think you may be confusing how HuffPo works. One part of it is "headlines" and essentially People magazine type stories. The other part is misandric and deliberately feminist as well as over the top left wing (which I say as a far leftist). My argument is that this is a case of the first. When feminist apologists come out of the woodwork to make excuses for this piece of garbage then they'll print that as part of the second.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:23 AM
3

Clearly it was due to her ex-spouse's long term abuse of her and her on-going PTSD from it. I will eat an article of clothing if her defense team doesn't use this strategy both here and in divorce court.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:19 AM
0

Without tying one to the other I have no reason to believe that anyone will ever care about men having those rights. Antipathy towards men's rights in any form is the norm.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:17 AM
1

"In the best interests of the child".
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:10 AM
1

While I loathe the feminist tendencies of Daily Kos, I don't see what you're saying delineated there. Admittedly I did not read all the comments.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:10 AM
5

Only if you ignore everything it does and then cherry pick your preferred beliefs.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:07 AM
2

I couldn't possibly put this better.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 03:06 AM
1

4 months for raping three students multiple times and betraying her responsibility as an authority figure? Sounds fair to me! There is literally no way that this teacher is being given preferential treatment because of her sex. California is one of the most enlightened and fairest places on Earth regarding gender issues.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 12:09 PM
2

Short of eliminating women completely or finding a "complaints gene" and genetically removing it from future generations of women I see no change in that respect. Fun fact: had a woman co-worker who half-tongue in cheek said "I complain therefore I am".
/r/MensRights09/01/14 08:30 AM
1

German speaker most likely.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 05:49 AM
2

I can see that. Sometimes I just hang at TIA because it can be crushingly depressing here.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 05:44 AM
5

There might be. I don't see it as material even if it were true. "An overlap" could be less than a thousandth of a percentage but it would still be an overlap.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 05:42 AM
2

It's not the sub, it's the real life attitudes of feminists the world over. All of whom think that women are owed something for their genitalia.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 05:18 AM
2

Can't say but I've gotten out of the habit of watching videos lately. I find them incredibly wearing. However, I am but a drop in the ocean.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 05:15 AM
2

Exactly. The only reason they give two shits about FTMs is because, as the bigots they are, they consider them still to be women and therefore worthy of concern. Never seen an FTM treated poorly in any male space or publicly. Want to see some harsh "gaze"? Check out women looking at transwomen.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 05:12 AM
1

There are no laws in CA that allow for the feelings of those statutorily raped to be taken into account. Even if they were - you know it would still be used as a double-edged sword to punish male perpetrators to a greater degree. Changing statutory rape laws to the degree which you're talking about and without being unevenly applied requires a degree of social change we are nowhere even near. Especially in CA where you are always guilty due to penis.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 05:04 AM
1

This would never have happened to a woman.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 04:57 AM
11

That's ok, 100 percent of SRSers are vermin.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 04:56 AM
4

If they're feminists they have no honor so there is that. SRS/AMR not a brigade amirite bigots?
/r/MensRights09/01/14 04:54 AM
2

The only way we will see change is when women are forced to do the same amount of time as men.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 04:50 AM
2

It's immaterial what they felt - the laws are clear that you do not use your position of authority to betray the trust of your students. Period. This is made absolutely clear to everyone in education as well as your reponsibility to report possible physical and sexual abuse. She will likely be teaching in no time. The only positive news: As part of her probation agreement, Whitehurst will wear a GPS monitoring device and register as a sex offender for the rest of her life.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 04:28 AM
2

When they're women. Otherwise that's horse manure. Plus Gov. Brown refused to consider releasing non-violent prisoners in order to help work out a deal between CO's unions and private prisons. No one is going to try to stop that money train.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 04:25 AM
3

Since it's California it's a certainty that the victim is paying child support.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 04:22 AM
1

A bit late but you TRO your ex before or at the same time you file charges. You also get witnesses and documentation. Get the best, most well known hardass attorney you can find. Spare no expense. Really.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 04:21 AM
2

He should. Ironically it may even be easier since the prosecutor refused to do anything about it.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 04:20 AM
1

Excellent suggestions.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 04:19 AM
1

If she bit you - you should have photos. Take them to the media if they refuse to press charges. Never go anywhere alone with her. In fact pretend there's a restraining order against the both of you. It will serve you well when she starts acting up. Transfer of children at a place that has security guards like McDonald's.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 04:19 AM
1

Take them up on it. You will need all the help you can get.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 04:17 AM
2

You can set it up so that you never have to speak to her. Once visitation schedules are set then there's no reason to revisit barring another day in court. Then when it's time she has to show how the current schedule doesn't work. Any evidence showing that she's jerking the kids after school activities around will even make the most misandric Family Court Services counselor mad. Make sure your arguments surround how her behavior hurts the children.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 04:15 AM
1

On the other hand there is this fascist who she shares a last name with as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miroslav_Majstorovi%C4%87 From one fascist, to another. Perhaps they truly are related.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 01:11 AM
0

Aggression isn't misogyny. It's a necessary tool in order to get any attention for our issues - as discussed upthread. I've read a lot of Elam and I don't see anything that can be referred to as misogyny. On the other hand the other team has no problem being completely misandric and getting away with it.
/r/MensRights08/01/14 10:36 PM
0

It's quite common not only here where prostitution is illegal but a large percentage of german prostitutes are and were college students.
/r/MensRights08/01/14 10:37 AM
2

Because feminism was never about equality. That was something for the rubes to buy into.
/r/MensRights08/01/14 10:30 AM
4

Hope she's your ex now. *Wow, sure are a lotta feminists whose janeys got rustled.
/r/MensRights08/01/14 04:53 AM
1

I prefer Phineas J. Whoopee myself. He can 3DBB my ass all day long.
/r/MensRights08/01/14 04:11 AM
3

Drilling down to its original purpose and finding purity will take some mental gymnastics to accomplish. I don't disagree with the concept of gender equality - but then that's not what feminism has ever stood for. That was merely the foot in the door.
/r/MensRights08/01/14 03:30 AM
1

I agree - men should be graded on how well they can pimp slap women and put them back in line. Allowing them to speak in public or even look up is intolerable. The only way to show a woman respect is to guide her to understanding her place. Man up gentlemen! Gotta love the blame and shame game that's only ok towards men. I'd love to see an opposite ad that tells women not to dress "like whores" and show some self-respect as well as treat all men with dignity (especially the untouchables). Think …
/r/MensRights07/01/14 01:20 PM
2

It is undeniable that we constantly get shit tests that look exactly like this both here and on SRSS. Your backpedaling on the sequence of events, while possible, gives that indication. This is he said, she said - and frankly having an opinion on something you didn't see is generally bad. If she decides to report it - then fine. There is no evidence one way or the other. If you feel like playing Billy Badass then confront the guy and tell him that if you see him doing this regardless of what act…
/r/MensRights07/01/14 01:09 PM
7

Of course all that crying and begging will be seen as him showing remorse for doing what he's been accused of and still get fucked over.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 12:52 PM
1

Ok his brother was homeless and they're both male. Seems a stretch to put here unless we're going to go the HuffPo route of adding People magazine type topics in with our politics.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 12:51 PM
18

That seems to be an accurate depiction of how most feminists view things. And why feminism must be destroyed.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 12:49 PM
2

Oh, I get it now - another feminist shit test. Nice concern trolling.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 12:44 PM
33

30 years, not 20. Learn to do math. Since 1982 is not 20 fucking years. Filipovic is a feminist bigot (I know, I know it's like saying vanilla, vanilla - some people don't get it yet).
/r/MensRights07/01/14 12:40 PM
3

lol this works for me.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 11:49 AM
1

She's awesome.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 11:28 AM
1

I find you both to be right.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 11:09 AM
-4

I'm kind of surprised no MHRA has advocated for political homosexuality.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 11:08 AM
1

Because like men, particularly white men, they destroy everything they touch of course. Hitler wasn't wrong, per se, he just wasn't quite targeting the right demographic. /the way feminists think
/r/MensRights07/01/14 11:05 AM
2

30 days from "notification". Never received it due to mail glitch? Too bad for you.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 11:00 AM
1

Why in fuck would any sane man marry? Of course Obama will be ok - he can afford the best lawyers in the country should he get divorced. He's used the black community but since feminists are an organized group and everyone seemingly likes to take a shit on black men why would he mind?
/r/MensRights07/01/14 10:58 AM
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I didn't try to force any model on anyone, I simply pointed out that a vast majority of those imprisoned are in jail for drug offenses and that men are more likely to have substance abuse problems. You've said absolutely nothing like this in-thread. Either you're confused, a troll, a feminist or a concern troll. I'm too tired to give a shit which. Unfortunately for you this has nothing to do with women but is actually caused by the Christian right. Citations? the duluth model you are talking abo…
/r/MensRights07/01/14 10:45 AM
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It is a proven fact that women get less time and are less likely to be taken to trial let alone convicted. This false equivalency you are driving based on trying to force a Duluth Model article into a UK based thread shows the level of disingenuousness that you're willing to go through in order to continue giving feminism a pass. It's important to indicate age in such a thing because crime overall - despite levels of incarceration have been going down for over 30 years and a nearly 25 year old s…
/r/MensRights07/01/14 10:16 AM
1

No. Next question?
/r/MensRights07/01/14 10:11 AM
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That's good.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 10:05 AM
1

I'd like to hear edtastic's pov on this. Completely anecdotal but the majority of black fathers I've known that were allowed to spend time with their kids happily and actively did so. Latin fathers as well. Part of the problem being that one has to be able to have a steady, decent job in order to be present in a child's life. Not easy to come by particularly if you come from an impoverished background.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 10:00 AM
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It's old material, it's based in the U.S. and the entire article is based on male perpetrator/female victim methodologies. That's some seriously tortured thinking. That you think pointing out that there are actual pussy passes - a term chosen not only for how blatant and inflammatory it is as well as how well it illustrates the truth via shorthand. It is a proven fact that women do less times both in the US and UK for the same crimes and are vastly less likely to be brought to trial at all. That…
/r/MensRights07/01/14 09:55 AM
1

Yes.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 09:35 AM
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Except that this is a UK case and that's a US link and this was clearly attempted murder. To you a "reasonable MRA" is one prone to doling out pussy passes. We need more feminists here as much as the NAACP needs more Klansmen attending their functions. Furthermore that's based on misandric methods and is extremely old information to base things on to boot. If you have cause to refute that women don't get a pass due to their sex feel free to write a long blogpost about it - elsewhere. Your apolog…
/r/MensRights07/01/14 09:24 AM
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Just as soon as the Guardian decides to stop being a misandrist rag, sure. i wouldn't hold my breath.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 09:21 AM
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Admittedly my information is old but there used to be a list of professions that if you were on them you could be fast-tracked but if you weren't there was little chance you'd be able to emigrate. Already having a job there was a huge plus as was bringing in your own business. I'd love to emigrate even though I have healthcare because at least there people aren't as regularly eating pet food. People here are far less important than money - or even pets/animals. Sorry if that was a bit ranty or i…
/r/MensRights07/01/14 08:09 AM
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I never said white males are the worst people on earth, I am a white male and I am a good guy. White men in history haven't been the best but they are getting better everyday and the modern white man is for the most part good I don't see how you jibe this with your original comment regarding "self-obsessed white males". It looks an awful lot like trying to sneak away from something you wrote. Nobody's been "the best". It is that as a society we have chosen to agree that white men are the worst p…
/r/MensRights07/01/14 05:52 AM
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I guess you neither read nor wrote what I quoted above. Yes, yes white males are the worst people on earth bar none and white women the great saviors of mankind and the most awesome people on earth who never have done anything bad to anyone ever and even if they did could never be held accountable for it. The reason no one pays attention is due to male disposability. No one cares what we (MHRAs) say in the greater context other than feminists who are deathly afraid of having their gender theory …
/r/MensRights07/01/14 03:19 AM
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No thanks. Hugging it out is hardly worth spending time on - particularly when dealing with the bigots mods invited into the sub.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 02:00 AM
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That's because the Mail is one of very few outlets that isn't inherently misandric. Hardly our fault.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 01:55 AM
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You guys do know that shit like the comments on this post is the reason even your reasonable arguments are dismissed by everyone beside self obsessed white males. Actually, no. That's because evil ideologues like yourself have no interest in allowing anyone else to have any room in the public sphere to discuss their issues. There is literally no one more obsessed about white males than feminists. Since all white males are plutarchs and none of them are in homeless shelters. You have a lot of ner…
/r/MensRights07/01/14 01:36 AM
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Why, are you single? Short of getting married to someone up there - it's not that easy to emigrate. *Also Canada has more than enough problems with institutionalized misandry as well. Not that I mind the advice. Finding a country that doesn't hate men is non-trivial.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 01:25 AM
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Obama totes didn't approve the Dear Colleague letter amirite?
/r/MensRights07/01/14 01:23 AM
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No, sorry. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Go directly to jail. Those lies might get you somewhere in SRSland but anyone who's eyes are open sees the harm feminism has brought and how discriminatory and evil it is. Equality is awesome. Ideologues looking for scapegoats - fucking evil.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 01:22 AM
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Show me a pol that's not a liar. I'll take Warren any day over Clinton. Like Feinstein her interests begin and end with the elites.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 01:18 AM
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It sounds to me as if you'd weather any thing that happened no matter what. I'm rather less likely or tolerant to fall on my sword for someone else unwilling to fall on theirs. Nor would I ask anyone else to do the same. If both persons aren't equally dedicated then it becomes one person holding the bag all the time. It sounds as if you're willing to be that person. While however you've handled things in your marriage worked for you recognizing that it isn't like that for all or even most people…
/r/MensRights06/01/14 11:09 PM
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I think you're wrong. Without AVFM there is currently nothing else to replace it in a sea of misandric bullshit. Equating Elam to Solanas is not only deeply wrong it makes you seem unhinged. Elam is no misogynist nor is he calling for women to be cut up. We need to back away from misogyny meaning "disagrees with a feminist" and back to its actual meaning. He's not our MLK, but he's what we've got. If you can do better I'll be the first to support you.
/r/MensRights06/01/14 10:04 AM
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I've seen Vassar described as School of the Americas for SJWs which is an apt description. Regardless of whether she works there now or not she's a feminist and you asked specifically "When has a feminist said that false rape accusations can help men?". You got your answer and now want to move the goalposts. That's fine but I'm going to ask that you at least be honest with yourself if you can't be honest with the rest of us.
/r/MensRights06/01/14 09:35 AM
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Just like the Soviet constitution sounded wonderful on paper.
/r/MensRights06/01/14 06:30 AM
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Thank you.
/r/MensRights06/01/14 06:27 AM
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I'm going to play devil's advocate here because frankly there were any number of factors involved in that era. One of which being that there were militants pushing things forward - the Black Panthers, Black Power movement, Malcolm X etc. All of whom I have great, great respect for even if much of what was done was somewhat foolhardy. One could easily make a claim that people smelling the air - and seeing the militants saw MLK and nonviolence as a more palatable solution. I'm not saying that was …
/r/MensRights06/01/14 06:17 AM
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How is this nitpicking relevant? At all?
/r/MensRights06/01/14 05:29 AM
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They ignore everything anyway because men have no intrinsic value to them. Again, Farrell tried the nice guy approach and it didn't work. The only other possibility of this changing is when enough FTMs start voicing the discrimination they face as men because feminists insist on still issuing them a woman card.
/r/MensRights06/01/14 05:22 AM
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http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,157165,00.html Catherine Comins, assistant dean of student life at Vassar, also sees some value in this loose use of 'rape.' She says angry victims of various forms of sexual intimidation cry rape to regain their sense of power. 'To use the word carefully would be to be careful for the sake of the violator, and the survivors don't care a hoot about him.' Comins argues that men who are unjustly accused can sometimes gain from the experience. 'T…
/r/MensRights06/01/14 05:19 AM
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I don't think so. Everything they do is intended to undermine the rights of men and quite proud of it they are as well. When feminists state that false rape accusations can have positive outcomes for men, when feminists rail against gender-neutral and joint custody laws, when feminists have no problem with men being disadvantaged in any way as long as their gravy train continues to roll in then yes they're a hate movement. Duke Lacrosse scandal, various "derailing" false rape scandals, tearing d…
/r/MensRights06/01/14 03:35 AM
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Common ground is always a valuable thing to find Tell that to the man being strung up by klansmen whether they be gender klansmen or otherwise. Feminism is the problem.
/r/MensRights06/01/14 01:13 AM
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If they were doing this I'd support them. However, they still insist men do the wooing with all the traditional fixings while concurrently "creep shaming" and denigrating men they don't find attractive and that men should always "man up". The problem is always men. Women don't need to change.
/r/MensRights06/01/14 01:12 AM
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I can't agree. Women have been gaming divorce law since at least the beginning of the 20th century so I don't see how "it's great to see divorce laws for women". It comes across as though you'd swallowed the kool aid that women had been oppressed for thousands of years - shackled to men which anyone familiar with history knows is horse manure. *Now, I'm not saying you think or believe that - it's just how it comes across. You won't say it's connected to feminism but I will. It's a direct result.…
/r/MensRights05/01/14 11:40 PM
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I'm not complaining. Many excellent women attorneys help men as a specialty or only take them as clients. I just found it amusing and ironic. Should know - but people have romantic ideas about marriage, about their partners, and about the system that have no basis in fact. Divorce is one of those areas in life where whoever goes for the nuclear option first is rewarded and the other side will be perpetually on the defensive. It's super important to have a safety net of friends and family and a c…
/r/MensRights05/01/14 11:03 PM
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When they are predisposed to switching off - and given that the soft approach has never worked for our team - we don't have many choices left in our methods. Ideally we'd have a fiery orator that was down on their talking points and was charismatic enough to draw people despite the bias. That's not what we have. People like that aren't even born every generation.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 10:58 PM
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I find it ironic that the NC affiliate is made up entirely of women: http://cordellcordell.com/offices/north-carolina/ she'll not walk in without personal attacks either so make sure she has nothing to use against you cause in divorce she'll try using attacks such as alcohol usage, drug usage, emotional/physical/verbal abuse, financial abuse, cheating, child abuse, etc etc etc. So true - and should be emphasized.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 10:50 PM
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Exactly. It wouldn't matter if it was MLK they'd find a way to shit on him.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 01:42 PM
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Sadly true. Once you go from struggling low-rent leftist to middle class boho jackass it's just part of the scene. Not that these clowns could give two shits about unions, laborers, the poor, ad nauseum.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 01:41 PM
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No difference to SRS.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 01:39 PM
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Jumped? It's been there for at least a year. Joining HuffPo, Gawker sites, and Alternet as well as the Atlantic. Trying to find a left-leaning site that isn't poisoned is ridiculously difficult.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 01:39 PM
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A couple words of advice: don't tell her - at all. Make sure you're at home "sick" and she's at work and arrange to pick up the kids. Have her served at work and the locks changed. That's how you negotiate from strength. Make sure you ask for the majority of custody and visitation. Past those tidbits an NC divorce lawyer would be your best bet. However, make sure she thinks everything is fine and dandy until you drop the hammer. Otherwise she will do the same to you and your seeing your kids wil…
/r/MensRights05/01/14 01:37 PM
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No clue why my account was banned. Don't care either especially after that ridiculous article regarding transwomen. I have an infinite amount of time for many of the authors there but I've lost patience with editorial despite the fact I generally like and agree with Esmay. That article was offensive and bullshit - and banning people over trivial shit is playing the same game as the feminists.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 01:23 PM
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It isn't. It's one of the definitions of Webster's not the only one. Furthermore ask her if that is true then why is feminism so deadset to other transfolk, why it demonizes men and manufactures terms like patriarchy (their version of it) when talking about something that women participate in and perpetuate which is more to their benefit than men.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 01:04 PM
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You should indeed follow the teachings of your name.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 01:02 PM
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Your supposition amuses me. *All those sites are entirely misandric - and like Gawker sites they will manipulate and manufacture.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 12:49 PM
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Well seeing as you're a pro-SRS bigot and likely an SRS or AMR alt that's hardly surprising. Manipulating the facts to reach the desired conclusions is de rigeur for your team.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 10:30 AM
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Paying attention to a single thing any feminist has to say and making sure they never employ one is number two.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 10:25 AM
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Apparently you were downvoted for being too accurate.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 10:18 AM
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They should be made angry. Gynocentrism is the norm - as is misandry.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 10:16 AM
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Agreed. It could only turn out well for our side.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 10:12 AM
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Please never directly link to that website. The sooner they, HuffPo and RawSewage lose all readership the better off humanity as a whole will be.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 10:04 AM
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Agreed.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 10:00 AM
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That degree of lying and game-playing isn't one I'd accept under any circumstance. I've never expected a mate or even a lover to be perfect - but I do expect and even demand they have self-knowledge. I think you're reflecting your own hard work onto their situation. I'd fear for your safety and sanity if you allowed this behavior to stand and stay with the woman. Out of empathy if nothing else.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 09:31 AM
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First off I never claimed or inferred you were stupid. If that's how it came across I apologize. Your downfall is that when you cut out everything negative in life, you really dont have much left. I wholly disagree. Everything is degrees and shades of gray. We all set for ourselves what boundaries we have and need. Allowing someone to trample all over your boundaries isn't a sign of maturity or of mental health. Quite the opposite. Nor is not knowing your boundaries an option. Dismissing someone…
/r/MensRights03/01/14 10:10 AM
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I'd rather link the Mail. Far less bigoted.
/r/MensRights02/01/14 07:29 AM
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There's also dude's fucking hairdo. Everything about that piece is a fucking tragedy. If they're going to do a fucking piece on transgenderism at least fucking ask Correctrix to do it.
/r/MensRights01/01/14 03:32 AM
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We're put on this earth to try and make each other better people This is a romantic notion not at all based on fact. While I can understand considering these words to live by it is wholly untrue in any objective reality. its a lot easier to try and cooperate with your primary partner in life than be consistently adversarial. I've found far too many people that act completely opposite of that for me to take that on face value. Particularly when what we're talking about is an immature woman who no…
/r/MensRights01/01/14 02:46 AM
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It didn't sound that way to you because you're not seeing how this woman thinks. She didn't want him to have a vasectomy not in his best interests but in hers. She didn't tell him about the abortions because she didn't want to get the grief or have to possibly face the choice of having her tubes tied or losing him. All of this is about her putting her needs first. Our desire to largely gloss over the damage she has done is because... theres not another way to address it. There is - divorce which…
/r/MensRights01/01/14 01:28 AM
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Exactly this. This is the only reason she would have argued against the vasectomy.
/r/MensRights01/01/14 01:11 AM
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And it's hard to find fault with the wife Only if lies, deception and codependence are the foundations of a healthy relationship.
/r/MensRights01/01/14 01:07 AM
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The very difficult sacrifices of being co-dependent and putting your needs on a shelf knowingly so you can keep what you have whilst being deceptive about it? Those sacrifices? Sorry, that's horseshit.
/r/MensRights01/01/14 01:04 AM
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This.
/r/MensRights01/01/14 01:02 AM
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So yea, it just boils down to communication. In no way is this true. She knew she wanted kids - and she stuck with him due to co-dependence. That's it. She knew his needs were incompatible with hers and continued to masquerade due to her needs. This whole thing has been entirely about her emotional needs and that and the behavior on both that forum and on this one continually cutting her a break is indeed why this is all about gender politics. Of course, a husband should never be angry when dece…
/r/MensRights01/01/14 12:59 AM
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That was the worst thing AVFM has ever published.
/r/MensRights31/12/13 10:51 AM
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No one, that's who.
/r/MensRights31/12/13 10:20 AM
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The reason that it needs to be seen as a pendulum is because boys have needs that need addressing - and one side is wholly uninterested in addressing the issues that don't affect them directly because their team is entirely self-serving. It's a more than adequate metaphor.
/r/MensRights31/12/13 10:19 AM
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The house feminism built.
/r/MensRights31/12/13 10:14 AM
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I know several who believe that the way women dress is based off of patriarchal socialization, for example. Unless those women are wearing Mao suits or burqas they're lunatics (and hypocrites as an added bonus). It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that people like to look and feel attractive - and that attracting the sex that interests you is part of negotiating the sexual game. I suspect these feminists are using the "male gaze" narrative - one that falls completely apart once you rea…
/r/MensRights31/12/13 10:11 AM
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Possibly93 days and 500 dollars? Not exactly a big deal.
/r/MensRights31/12/13 10:02 AM
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I cannot imagine why this man hasn't filed for divorce already. A woman capable of being that deceptive and codependent is capable of anything. Put the financial house in order, encourage her to see some relatives, have her served there, change the locks, see you and thanks for coming.
/r/MensRights31/12/13 09:54 AM
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They believe that by changing male behavior, female behavior will change as a result. We have a fundamental difference of opinion - I do not believe that feminists are trying to change women and their behavior at all. only male behavior is worthy of redress. I'd change "worthy" to "in need" but if that's where you're going with it we are indeed on the same page. I'm not sure if it's merely that women are blameless victims or if it's that their view is that there is literally nothing wrong with w…
/r/MensRights31/12/13 09:45 AM
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I don't buy that - they want to control not only the dialogue but the actual behavior of men - without ever addressing the behavior of women.
/r/MensRights31/12/13 09:26 AM
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Indeed, one should never look directly into the eyes of one's betters. Kneel and know thy place.
/r/MensRights31/12/13 09:24 AM
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Sorry your mind was blown with logic. If circular logic was approved as actual logic then you'd have a point. It's been pointed out to you not once - but multiple times in thread that literally no one is advocating against condom usage but still you keep erecting that strawman as if it was in desperate need of priapism. If a single woman has poked a hole ever it has happened - which it has. Men are deceived every day into paying for children that are not their own. Again, a virgin or a moron or …
/r/MensRights31/12/13 08:34 AM
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Typical male shaming garbage.
/r/MensRights30/12/13 01:18 PM
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Yet most second wave feminists were hetero and were actively a part of demonizing men and masculinity even then. Steinem, Butler etc. had far more impact than lesbians. Sure there was a lesbian separatist movement - but even they had minimal impact. The worst feminists have always been hetero. Marcotte is an anomaly.
/r/MensRights30/12/13 11:29 AM
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I am so glad that you substantiated your ridiculous assertions with loads of empirical data from researchers that indicate that condoms are now 100 percent effective in all cases. You're a virgin, a moron or both.
/r/MensRights30/12/13 11:26 AM
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The War on Women: The Newly Invisible and Undeserving Poor in America :(
/r/MensRights21/12/13 07:29 AM
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Nah, then it would be /mensrants territory. This is a good, legitimate question to my mind seeing how polluted the media has become against men.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 07:26 AM
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The Atlantic is so full of misandric garbage I stopped going there. Plus anything by Berlatsky is dreck. Mother Jones is also infected by the feminism.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 07:24 AM
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Bigots will be bigots. News at 11.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 07:16 AM
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It's a well-written article I largely agree with. My only complaint is that I don't see any way to change things back - nor would most people want to. Making the fisherman's choice is, to a spiritual person, the path to enlightenment and self-satisfaction. Nor do I see marriage as a fixable institution - at the very least within my lifetime.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 06:23 AM
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We aren't human rights first - and there are a gazillion feminist subs to mention how women are treated. Again, Eckert's treatment by the media and the public at large is as much or more of the issue than what actually happened to him. She, on the other hand, is being wholeheartedly supported in both the media and by the public. The MHRM isn't a catch all for all human rights issues nor should it be.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 12:48 AM
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It's nice to see someone making such finely crafted false equivalencies. I'm certain you'll go far selling them on etsy.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 12:45 AM
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I'm happy to see debate. As long as it's not in your own sub.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 12:39 AM
1

feminists in California demanding that all DV 911 calls result in an arrest, and when female arrests (because of DV) skyrocketed 300%, as opposed to 50% for males, they came up with the Primary Aggressor Theory? If you have linkage for these I'd be eternally grateful. I'm trying to put together a package of links for things like that.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 12:39 AM
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This isn't a WRA forum nor is the way the public perceives this the same as how the public perceives what happened to Eckert. Either way that story was correct to be here and this one isn't.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 12:35 AM
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Sticks and stones. *If you don't know the difference between making a false statement to police and saving your job then I can't help you. There will be no evidence - just he said she said and they'll move the two apart. If she can put words in his mouth - well you do the math.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 11:15 PM
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If you don't care about your job then do what you like - I'm not stopping you. I called it a nuclear option for a reason. And no, I don't have a problem with it because his adversary will undoubtedly go there if he doesn't. She is harrassing him in the workplace is she not? The only point you'd have is if I told him to go to the police.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 11:15 PM
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By claiming there are "real feminists" then clearly you have someone in mind. Who? Aren't the feminists that I mentioned that post on HuffPo, Jezebel, RawSewage et. al. feminists? Aren't SRSers feminists? AMR bigots? TERFs? He's asking you to be specific and name them. How is that railroading? I don't see how asking someone to list who it is they're thinking of when they claim there are "real feminists" is railroading. You're being asked to show your work - not being personally maligned.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 04:14 PM
0

Then you should find answering his question child's play.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 04:04 PM
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"If you think your son is less important than your sister's you have some serious fucking problems. Frankly I will call CPS on your ass if you allow something like that again and I could give two shits if you or your family ever speak to me again if that's what kind of person you are." The kind of shit I would say. I, however, have absolutely no problem making enemies in my life and consider it a badge of honor. You may be different. tl;dr - that kid deserves better and so do you.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 03:38 PM
2

OT but I have to wonder how you manage to be so consistently awesome.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 03:32 PM
1

I'm about as pro-transmen as you can get however, I also am a frequenter of /ainbow and consider myself a rainbow person. I more than welcome their activity in the MHRA space because all it does is lend even more legitimacy to our cause. The last thing we should be doing as a movement is limiting its membership.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 03:23 PM
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Ask her why she hates transwomen and hates men. When she inevitably balks and says feminists aren't like that bury her ass in links.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 03:19 PM
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Because they will do anything to see women as wonderful. Misandry runs deep.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 03:04 PM
1

Someone at SRSS told me about ainbow and I'm pretty happy with it.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 03:01 PM
0

He couldn't possibly have had his arm twisted to say these things nooooooo.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 02:59 PM
1

Where are the non-rad fems then? They aren't on HuffPo, not on RawSewage, not on Alternet, not on Jezebel ad nauseum. You could point to Cathy Young, Camille Paglia and Hoff-Sommers but frankly few see them as feminists and I certainly don't. knucker's asking a valid question.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 02:35 PM
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Sorry, no. All their bigots call themselves feminists. Most of them have zero problems with disadvantaging men and many have no problems hating transwomen.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 02:32 PM
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I think a better question is why shouldn't you and all the AMR bigots and SRSers brigading our sub be perma-banned from it.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 02:21 PM
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This is the best non-nuclear option advice in thread imo.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 02:14 PM
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In a union environment that advice would be golden. Collating info that shows she's a terrible employee on the other hand or flat out accusing her of sexual harrassment is a win anywhere.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 02:10 PM
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This right here. The full on nuclear attack though is "she touched me inappropriately" and you two will be perma-separated. Priming the pump with stating that she consistently makes belittling and berating comments (which is true) only helps things. Office politics is dirty business.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 02:08 PM
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We don't have a spokesperson - we're not even a well organized group. Many of us are either lgbt or have friends that are and already support marriage equality. I'd argue we shouldn't either try to co-opt or ride the coat-tails of their movement as feminists have. Where our venn diagram crosses over with lgbt politics it behooves us to show solidarity.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 02:04 PM
2

Just never ever hire them.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 06:58 AM
2

Even when they lose they win. Especially when they lose they win.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 06:58 AM
1

You made the most egregious comment, so yeah I called you on it. You mean like how it's a coincidence a bigot from AMR comes into our sub? Stretching it you could make a case for battery. Sexual assault laws in the 40s were not the same as they are now.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 06:35 AM
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If it's not - and he's reaching then he deserves to lose. Chances are excellent he will lose anyway even if he's 100 percent in the right.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 06:29 AM
1

It's a closed case and they still get to put a notch in their belt without having to go through as much effort. It's a win-win for them. You're also not taking into account the politics of the situation. Quite often there are orders from on high for specific outcomes.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 06:24 AM
1

TIL that someone that commonly frequents a sub who goes back to old stories is a "stalker". Please do report me to the mods. It's a completely different thing. Intent is completely different. The difference is he's evil because penis.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 06:18 AM
1

This is seriously fucked up.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 06:13 AM
1

Exuberance over winning a terrible war = horrible patriarchal sexual assault. Deliberately using your gender as a weapon in protest = awesomesauce. I know you're a bigot but please try harder.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 06:07 AM
1

However, fucking everyone over is the only way to stop it. Only when protected groups have to suffer will there be change.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 06:04 AM
1

My opinion is that it wouldn't have had an effect and that HuffPo wouldn't have gone near the story seeing this kind of thing as right and just. I tend to see it as the argument between - should we do everything the "correct" way and face being either ignored, like Warren Farrell and the previous movements, or take charge. We'll be branded as evil no matter what we do. I'm a bit conflicted. We have no great orator or someone that can bridge the divide between feminism and the MHRM and frankly fe…
/r/MensRights20/12/13 05:14 AM
0

It's far less effective.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 05:06 AM
1

Sometimes hitting people where they hurt is the only way to get their attention that they're doing something wrong. Otherwise the misandry train continues unabated (much to the glee of the many SRSers here).
/r/MensRights20/12/13 05:05 AM
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Which I guarantee is the entirety of the downvotes you've received. I think that this subreddit needs to reconsider allowing the voting and activities of everyone from reddit here.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 05:01 AM
0

Working to disadvantage men is mainstream not radical.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 04:41 AM
0

Because the MRM is directly analogous to feminism in deliberately working to disadvantage the other sex amirite?
/r/MensRights20/12/13 04:14 AM
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As a woman who has worked with men for over 25 years, I find your description of men in the workplace incomplete. Every single thing oneiorosgrip says here about work is true. If you've worked long enough and in enough places you see how cliquishness is rewarded, how being anything other than the in-group is detrimental. What I've seen all of these groups allowed to do anything they wanted: blacks, women, hillbillies (this is shorthand and not actual fact), suck ups, and members of the clique. N…
/r/MensRights20/12/13 03:47 AM
1

Which is why they carry various sorts of liability insurance. Most companies or agencies do not fail due to being sued for discrimination. I can't think of a single one. Regardless things like this happen all the time in the public sector.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 02:24 AM
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Proving it was on that basis - even if it's utterly clear to all of those around you - is a bear.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 02:22 AM
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Which doesn't make it necessarily untrue.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 02:21 AM
1

Not at all improbable. People tend to forget that schools are run by women and that there are entrenched old girls networks as bad now as old boys networks were back in the 60s. The gay twist is new. That said we don't know everything that went on behind the scenes either.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 02:16 AM
1

i thought you were using shorthand for something and couldn't figure out what it could be. Thanks.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 12:15 AM
1

It all probably depends how IRS presented. I don't understand this sentence.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 12:05 AM
2

I'm not going to give my seat up due to any preference for either sex. It's sexist. I get up for people that are very tired, have many bags, or are more disabled than I am. Sometimes so a child can sit next to their parent/s. I laughed about your comment about a groin guard. Not at it but I guess because I'm still into sophomoric humor. The white knight thing seems especially strong in England. Also that comment seems to fulfill the TRP outlook of a white knight (aka beta) angling for pussy or a…
/r/MensRights15/12/13 01:17 PM
2

I don't know NJ law but some states don't allow recordings without letting the other person know. However, depending on the court, you can sometimes get away with breaking that in family court because it can be so loosey-goosy. Judges have a ridiculous amount of leeway. The main thing is dude needs to get an attorney.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 01:10 PM
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Most lgbt folks are more interested in solving lgbt problems. There shouldn't be many political lesbians left - nor are most of the most heinous ideologues (Marcotte excepted) lesbians. I suspect this is more a perception than a fact. If you have something to back up that they had anything to do with the constant radicalization of feminism I'd like to read it.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 10:09 AM
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If I can - I will. How do you submit questions or do you need a mic?
/r/MensRights15/12/13 10:06 AM
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Of course it is. That shit shouldn't fly anywhere.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 10:05 AM
1

My that's a lovely patch of NAFALT you've grown there.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 07:47 AM
1

the administrative judge said while he found her behavior inappropriate, there was no evidence that Gomez was trying to punish the student. Because of this ridiculous usage of the pussy pass and a boy victim. If you can't dissuade an autistic kid from doing something you get the fuck over it.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 07:40 AM
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I still think their funding methodology is b.s. This should be supported by NIH.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 07:36 AM
1

Tell your kids to go to the loudest member of the group and beat the ever living snot out of them. When the principal calls you tell them it's because they weren't doing their fucking job and that you'll support your kid for doing so.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 07:32 AM
2

Mothers have always done the majority of kidnappings when it's a family member that does so.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 07:28 AM
1

Then she can use the female condom. This is a non-issue. Blaming the girl doesn't mean he won't be paying support for a long, long time.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 07:24 AM
1

In some states it's not legal to have "ladies nights".
/r/MensRights15/12/13 07:20 AM
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You do. However, to nail someone you have to show that what's being done is illegal and if it's part of the massage with no hanky panky short of new laws there isn't much that can be done. Of course every state has different rules about CMTs.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 07:16 AM
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I'm damned if I'd wear those shoes and women who feel forced into it be social convention need to be cut some slack. TIL no women ever wore sensible shoes and that there are literally none available for purchase for any woman anywhere.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 07:15 AM
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She's the victim. Who will pay for her shoes now? His failure to financially provide for her is literally domestic abuse. From the grave.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 07:12 AM
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I wouldn't. I'd just keep screenshotting and sending to the authorities until they did something about it.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 07:10 AM
1

The kitchen knife story would be enough to shoot her in any jurisdiction I can think of even the most liberal like CA. Sure he'd have to flush the blow but it's still worth it to stay out of prison or potentially be murdered. These people would completely support those women that made a claim of sexual harrassment towards that cab driver in Canada a couple months back.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 07:05 AM
0

What feminists have been fighting for since day 1.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 07:02 AM
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If they were never taught restraint then that's an argument to put them in re-education camps not to let them off scot-free.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:55 AM
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Honestly those men should take this screenshot with them to the local PD immediately.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:53 AM
1

You know why. Wrong sex. Born wrong sex= perpetual perpetrator.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:51 AM
1

I don't think it's sexist - it's quite common in the early stages of a relationship to screw like bunnies.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:47 AM
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Most women and most feminists don't give a damn about prostitutes.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:46 AM
1

Someone should tweet that to her.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:44 AM
1

It is sad. It's also a result of all the anti-male hysteria in the media.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:41 AM
1

Honestly so is mine. Maybe I'm lucky but I just don't think that most of them have those kinds of issues barring your political lesbians. Most of the folks pushing SJW shit I've met IRL have been straight or bi women.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:40 AM
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They could just register as licensed massage therapists and basically have no issues in many jurisdictions.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:36 AM
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Good points but he wants sole custody which I agree is a hard road to hoe. However, if he waits and treats the DUI as not a consideration instead of indicating worry about her behavior when around the child his chances get significantly lower as they'll tend to presume that he's just doing it for other reasons.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:33 AM
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Actually you can easily say you live with the parents so they can watch the kids when you can't. It's a pretty strong argument that even the most misandric Family Court Services hack would have to take into consideration. Especially if she's latchkeying the kid. Replaced a word and subtracted a word.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:31 AM
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If she's incarcerated as a result or has been you'd have a stronger case. Regardless you need a lawyer yesterday. Also - document, document, document. Make sure there are witnesses during the turnovers and do them in neutral places if at all possible. It would help you tremendously if the witnesses you used weren't family members.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:28 AM
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they're actually oppressed because things aren't perfect for them. Which is the underlying message behind feminism in its entirety - particularly for the white middle and upper class women who that religion was built by and for.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:19 AM
1

False TROs are a huge fucking problem.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:18 AM
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Who cares how boys perform in school anyways, amirite? Sadly no one.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:16 AM
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Soraya is a lying, misandrist piece of human garbage.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:14 AM
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Agreed. It bums me out to even read that.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:11 AM
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I can't agree. The majority of lesbians I know are not anti-male. The most virulently anti-MR people I've met are all hetero. I have issues with sex-positive feminists (the second part of their name and the horseshit that goes along with it) but I don't see a lot of overlap in the venn diagram between sex-positive feminists and the anti-men and anti-sex crowds. If being a lesbian makes one more likely to be a bigot then does that also hold true for gay men?
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:10 AM
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Conveniently overlooking the massive amounts of institutional power they actually have. If there is a patriarchy then they are inseparably joined at the hip.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:06 AM
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Easy response: Why are you such a sexist? Why do you hate men? Good for the gander - good for the goose.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:02 AM
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Probably. Your best bet is not to attend that business.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:00 AM
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Let me be perfectly blunt: a man is far more likely to get groped in a gay bar or club as a woman anywhere (even that's more rare now than it used to be). At least outside of spring break which I've never been to. "It's the men being "sexist". Then show me how it evolved to become that. Again, you continue to ignore that people from different cultures react differently or that women don't all see this as the worst thing to happen ever. Here's a sane woman's perspective: http://bucultureshock.com…
/r/MensRights14/12/13 04:38 AM
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I've seen black guys cat-call black women on numerous occasions and seen them smile or allow the man to talk to them. This is primarily a class issue since the women that are complaining are primarily white middle and upper middle class women and the men are predominantly working class. This is the women being classist. Groping is exceptionally rare in the U.S. It's a one-way ticket to getting a harrassment charge. Saying "it does happen" means nothing. Did it happen once? Ok then it "happened".…
/r/MensRights14/12/13 04:06 AM
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That groping shit might still happen in Italy, but here? You're making shit up. One person's lewd comment is the other persons prelude to a hookup. This is a total non-problem.
/r/MensRights14/12/13 03:42 AM
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Most of the lesbians you're talking about are political lesbians imho. Most lesbians don't hate men - they just rarely, if ever, want to sleep with them. Ones who are in their 50s and up have somewhat more reason to hold anti-male views due to the concurrance of second wave feminism and the rise of lgbt politics along with the intolerance of the times.
/r/MensRights14/12/13 01:38 AM
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Fraudulent loitering charges won't put you in jail upwards of a decade. It seems pretty clear to me which is worse which is why I don't understand what you're trying to say.
/r/MensRights14/12/13 12:18 AM
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Because everyone loves cop killers and never turns them in? I don't see your reasoning here at all.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 11:35 PM
1

Especially this.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 11:33 PM
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Us libs? Right I'm some kind of stereotype. Go you. I wouldn't want to stop your ignorance train.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 01:51 PM
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You don't get it - there are no winners only losers. None of us gain ground when the primary differences between parties is that one party is more openly bigoted. If that wasn't in play you couldn't tell them apart. Never count out the Clintons and their massive support. Once Bill goes out on the campaign trail it will be all over. And as I said I hate Hilary with every fiber of my being.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 01:47 PM
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Racist.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 01:35 PM
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I was more riffing off what 7vega said than anything else. While traditionalism does put women first I actually enjoy this kind of insanity because I love to see it fail. Please note that I have worked for the government at some point in my life and am used to clueless women bosses and feminist and other political b.s. before practicality. Sorry you've got to go through the pain but that's what has to happen when feminists aren't shut down. Personally I'd love to know what percentage of women ar…
/r/MensRights13/12/13 09:06 AM
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Just like traditionalism.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 06:17 AM
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Jeez, now who is going to pay for her shoes? She's the real victim here.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 06:06 AM
1

Downvoters do you not see the sarcasm?
/r/MensRights13/12/13 06:01 AM
1

Is jer a new pronoun? Serious question as I recently saw an image on SRSs that blew my mind.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 05:59 AM
1

A TRPer would say this guy is beta. I would say this guy not only has some real self-esteem problems but cared more about the kids and certainly the well-being of the family overall than she did. Given what she did to him I'd say her DV>his. Without an awesome divorce attorney he's going to be doubly fucked.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 05:51 AM
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I upvoted this but honestly you should have waited to see what the sentencing was and not used such an inflammatory title.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 05:38 AM
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"I wasn't thinking about where we were ... I just pushed," she told the judge. Credible.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 05:37 AM
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You can't deny there's a war against abortion rights. Any objective person can see that. Nor is that war at all beneficial to us because it's not tying it to men's choices but merely removing women's.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 05:28 AM
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Pipedreams friend, pipedreams. I feel your pain.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 05:26 AM
0

And get ducats from ALEC.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 04:59 AM
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I couldn't read that. You need to insert paragraphs there. tl;dr - wall of text hurts eyes
/r/MensRights13/12/13 04:58 AM
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If he goes up against Hilary it will be a slam dunk. All the GOP has to do is continue supporting Rape Insurance and the like as well as harbor anti-lgbt bigots. Note - I despise Hilary with every fiber of my being.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 04:57 AM
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Don't forget it's "in the best interests of the child" that they do this. It really isn't sexism or misandry.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 04:54 AM
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It could turn out that way - it's all dependent on the commanding officers and their generals. However, it's well known that the outcomes they want to see are regarding women. Officers are well known for their compunction to do just as much as they have to and nothing else so I have my doubts that equal weight be given to those men affected. There's a stat I read a couple months ago that showed more men were raped in the service than women - however I didn't bookmark it. I'll say this - when I w…
/r/MensRights13/12/13 04:40 AM
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Wow, that's great. I'm really surprised. Thanks for the link. I don't know the gender of the top rated user there but whatever they are - they're awesome on this if nothing else.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 03:53 AM
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Do you have citations to support that? If I had a choice I'd not go to bed with either of them - however barring a constitutional amendment a third party will never get past a tiny minority. That said it is the Republicans who are in bed with fundamentalists and anti-lgbt hate mongers - even if all their other interests lined up with mine I wouldn't vote for them.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 03:47 AM
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Thanks!
/r/MensRights13/12/13 03:40 AM
1

No one is arguing that it's ok or an awesome thing to do. We have a different interpretation of what she said - that's all. Again: If you consent it's consensual. Period. I took her message as "no woman would ever actually allow that".
/r/MensRights13/12/13 03:39 AM
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Please don't link to them. If you must then put it up on imgur or something.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 11:57 PM
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I don't. Stay as long as you want. Do whatever. But if you're going to whine and not contribute you're certainly no asset.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 11:53 PM
1

You're arguing for it to be ok that children be molested and doing it on an MHRA sub. Looks like a plant, smells like a plant.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 11:49 PM
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Men are more disposable than women. Why? Thus far we've seen female supremacy in all systems. I don't see where you're getting the idea that traditionalists somehow "adjusts their system accordingly."
/r/MensRights12/12/13 11:47 PM
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I'm not sure why feminists think we're living on Gor.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 11:21 PM
1

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 11:13 PM
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Traditionalists are a huge part of the GOP base and they work hand in hand with feminists to maintain male disposability. Neither side gives two shits about men. However, their tactic is in direct opposition against those who would limit abortion rights which is nearly all the work of Republicans. Sure it's a smear - both sides do it and both have unclean hands.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 11:03 PM
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This is clearly why MGM is prominently displayed as a serious issue in the countries that still do it but aren't concerned at all about FGM which happens half a world away.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 10:09 PM
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I'm not buying that. I don't see right wingers as my enemies. People have a right to their opinions and I agree to some degree with bits of both lines of thought. There is essentially a battleground over the issues and where one lies on them or what ideology you have tends to put one in a box. I'm for single payer socialized medicine, a strong working class, and against most global trade agreements including the TPP. That tends to put me in the lefty box. Just because some people like to be pola…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 10:00 PM
1

Right, thanks for the explanation. I get what you were saying now but it was unclear to me that you meant it was ingratiating to feminists especially since you'd just mentioned AVFM. I found it confusing. It might just be me.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:41 PM
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Once these guys get reamed in divorce court - and they will - doing this will eventually become anathema. The only way divorce law is likely to become less terrible is when it has to be more commonly applied to lgbt marriages where the roles are less clearly defined.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:26 PM
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SJW crap taking away from the mission of the project is ridiculous. It was clearly stated. Please, your feminism is showing.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:20 PM
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If you consent it's consensual. Period. I took her message as "no woman would ever actually allow that". I suppose there are traditionalists that argue for the right to beat their wives - or that the wives think it's A-OK. I've never met any. I've known women that told me with all sincerity that it was their husband's job to reign them in.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:17 PM
1

the word you're looking for might be inflammatory but ingratiating means something entirely different than how you're using it here.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 10:09 AM
1

That's not going to work out very well. Plus you're leaving out the fact that society in general and the courts have a pretty deep antipathy towards transwomen. Just because feminists want to co-opt trans issues in order to show they're allies with people with actual problems doesn't mean those people don't have real problems.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:56 AM
1

All of that case law is bullshit brought by the influence of feminism.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:54 AM
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Bullshit, any kids that have been around an abusive parent know how to stay quiet - and will more than likely just do what they're told provided it's the mother.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:51 AM
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Not premeditated obviously.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:48 AM
1

Which is why men that are abused don't deliberately murder out of spite then try to get out of it while selling their story to Lifetime.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:46 AM
1

No, women should have the right to murder and then collect on their SO's insurance policies.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:45 AM
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Right because no woman ever has trumped up abuse charges in order to get away with murder.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:44 AM
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TIL that no women ever were into bdsm.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:28 AM
2

I agree. The white knighting even here is disturbing.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:27 AM
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It isn't inherently - it's just not commonly applied the other way around to the best of my knowledge. There was a french guy that recently got nailed for it there. I'll have to dig up the link. In a state that isn't no-fault divorce possibly. Frankly I think that marriage as an institution should have been dissolved once no-fault was the law but then it wouldn't continue to benefit women disproportionately to men.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:25 AM
2

Even the people here tend to view women as more important than men.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:22 AM
4

You mean 50 Shades of Grey?
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:21 AM
2

Where is there "need for feminism"? Feminism is directly responsible for most of the ills we are facing.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:18 AM
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Yeah releasing a woman that shot towards her husband and his children with her eyes closed is a milestone for feminism that's for sure. It's not like those horrible males have any value. Or that a reasonable person couldn't just have opened the fucking garage door or exited out the front. Nooooo.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:17 AM
1

What Adria Richards, Sarkeesian etc. have wanted for ever. They don't want equality in the workplace or entrance into "male dominated" fields - they want control over the dialogue like they have everywhere else.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:07 AM
1

That would require more male teachers and administrators.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 08:53 AM
1

And yet it just keeps bringing more people into the movement.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 08:42 AM
2

You just don't understand. Even in this sub males are more disposable.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 08:41 AM
0

Allow? What, precisely, is stopping them? Because you cannot file charges against your wife for spending marital assets - that's why. WTF - have you done any research at all into divorce law?
/r/MensRights12/12/13 08:40 AM
1

I missed that. Thanks for the clarification.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 08:28 AM
2

No you can't. You are obligated. There are hundreds of stories of men getting divorced whose wives without their knowledge used up the entirety of their credit and because either the woman had no job or was getting paid less was still stuck with it. Even without the divorce your spouse can use up all your funds or sell off all marital assets and there's nothing you can do about it. Sure you can complain to the court when you're dissolving the marriage but there's no guarantee the judge will do z…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 08:27 AM
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AVFM intends to stir the pot generally as a tactic. How is that not what's being done here? The whole point of stirring that pot is because without it no one gave a shit. IF you're embarrassed rather than wanting to explain it to your friends on fb then that's a choice you're making. If it bugs you so much then post up permutation of ninjas or something. I think you're in the wrong here but I will defend to the death your right to bring the argument to the sub. I just think you're actually hurti…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 08:14 AM
0

Not fulfilling one's sexual duty, at least as a husband can be seen as DV. Withholding affection etc.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 08:09 AM
0

I'm quite the lefty - and I think he's wrong. This isn't a left/right thing.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 08:05 AM
1

Agreed. Women are excellent at doing the crocodile tears at the drop of a hat. Her statement indicates she may not yet grasp the game.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 08:00 AM
2

"Sex crimes" One of the rare cases of a woman doing the kind of time a man does.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 07:55 AM
1

Are you a NAMBLA plant or something? SRS alt?
/r/MensRights12/12/13 07:52 AM
1

"Despite what the court might see, I am not a sexual predator." That self-awareness.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 07:50 AM
1

TIL how men are treated by both society and the media was not a men's rights issue.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 07:26 AM
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"What, like NOW? And my place is a mess. How embarrassing!" That's awesome. I never saw the original page AS posted but I can easily say that youtube commenters often make ridiculous threats that no one in their right mind would consider likely. However, I've had numerous discussions with feminists that want to censor the whole internet because clearly we should take every threat made towards a woman ever as a serious threat. Now these are people that have never gotten a death threat to their fa…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 07:14 AM
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I don't have a problem with your philosophy - the fact of the matter is that I don't care which one it is. I, personally, am not irritated as long as it's equal treatment. Considering how the media only uses the word man pejoratively unless he's doing something good when he's solely referred to as his job I think you're wrong.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 03:36 AM
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It has to be the same treatment - period. It makes no difference to me as long as it's dress right dress. Evening the score has nothing to do with it. You want to call that the "same as what feminists are doing" which I wholeheartedly disagree with - that's your right. Regardless making men look like shit sells papers.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 03:23 AM
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Which would be fine if they treated male accused the same way.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 11:30 PM
3

You just made my day.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 05:13 PM
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I've said this before and I'll say it again - lesbians tend to be far more sane in their gender politics because they get it. I personally cannot wait until FTMs make enough of a vocal population to strike back against institutionalized misandry because if shit isn't real now it certainly will be then. Yes, they can play the "ex-woman" card but for most of them that's not satisfying.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 05:09 PM
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After she trolled 4chan. She knew exactly what she was doing.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 05:00 PM
1

Bingo.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 04:44 PM
15

Are you a 12 year old Tumblrina?
/r/MensRights11/12/13 04:42 PM
1

Why do I hear this in Bill Lundgren's voice?
/r/MensRights11/12/13 04:40 PM
3

That was excellent. Well written and concise. Thanks for sharing.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 03:33 PM
6

I've long argued that marriage should be like Thunderdome.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 02:21 PM
2

Quotemined in 3,2,1...
/r/MensRights11/12/13 02:18 PM
1

There's no one I could stand to be in the same room with for 30 years.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 02:17 PM
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Then they should have called her a molester.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 02:16 PM
3

Not rape, no never that.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 02:14 PM
1

That's a strong independent womyn looking out for number 1 sister! Don't you get in her way!
/r/MensRights11/12/13 02:04 PM
1

Damn it I had to check and see if that was the Guardian's actual headline and am now deeply disappointed.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 11:43 AM
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You're in an MHRA sub and everything I've mention has been covered and discussed elsewhere ad infinitum. You wouldn't see me arguing the burden of truth was on you if I were to make posts in /feminism or SRS. Except of course making those arguments at all would get you banned. Because feminism is anything but a close-minded circle jerk interested in hearing everyone's experience amirite? Strawmen? That's fucking rich. One side games statistics and then claims not only some wholly untrue moral hi…
/r/MensRights11/12/13 01:44 AM
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lol right just because a mixed race man who actually worked with the local NAACP is secretly a hood-wearing racist aryan. TIL that supporting Roderick Scott for doing the same damn thing is still racism. I'm quite familiar with Malcolm's arc. His anger was completely justified for its time. Now? Not so much. Oh please I've gotten death threats to my face - I can handle it fine. I live in a predominantly black area. If you want to be angry that the GOP uses coded racist language in order to get t…
/r/MensRights10/12/13 10:38 PM
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For one, there have been lots thrown around about why not to use them. Where, exactly in this thread? TIL a man not realizing that a woman piercing a condom is still at fault. That's bigotry plain and simple. I don't know a woman I've met that hasn't some fucked up story about a condom. Everyone has those stories. Everyone. It's fucking universal - so either you've never had sex or you just love to be misandric. Everyone is not incompetent. If a guy refuses to use a condom then you can choose no…
/r/MensRights10/12/13 08:41 AM
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Both sexes get shit on. The degree to which they are shit on is based on class - not gender. In western society women have it better than men overall. Your uncited claim that patriarchies still exist - and trying to point at India which has instituted a number of misandric laws of late is pretty funny. As far as the rest of the world the only stats that have ever been posted has been by feminists who are wholly uninterested in presenting a balanced viewpoint. So, no I'm not buying it. Show me a …
/r/MensRights10/12/13 08:33 AM
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She's not interested in anything that doesn't make women a victim in this narrative.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 12:30 AM
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WTF? Show me where exactly in this thread anyone said anything about choosing not to use condoms. You're being ridiculous.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 12:28 AM
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I know the NP has some good posts. I wasn't about the WSJ. I don't see a problem with what Lloyd's doing. Even if you think that a paper is execrable (which is most of them in my view) single writers can make it worth it.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 11:09 PM
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I'll buy that.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 11:03 PM
0

Saying that women are part of the problem is wholly different than a movement or a mainstream leader taking responsibility for the fallout it has made. That it is so ingrained in our own institutions that claiming that it isn't responsible for systemic flaws is deeply disingenuous. Its valid because lots of people live outside your own part of the world and women still get the shit end of the stick in many countries. If you have to point at other countries to show that it still exists, has a pur…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 11:02 PM
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As stated in the RT video the researcher herself states it was largely for political reasons. That the money hasn't been there and there's been no interest because it benefited men. I'm not saying there aren't and weren't actual hurdles to jump over but it has never been on anyone's agenda until now - and even then the small group trying to pull it off in the U.S. isn't that well funded and is essentially using an indiegogo type funding method.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 10:44 PM
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Show me where Lloyd himself has done a bad piece. Trying too hard when the mainstream media refuses to cover men's issues at all?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 10:38 PM
1

Nothing is 100 percent effective including condoms. No one who's ever had a sex accident would ever make a comment like yours. Clearly condoms never come off under any circumstance. Furthermore there are cases of women poking holes in condoms in order to get pregnant.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 10:35 PM
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That's likely true. I don't see them as an advocacy paper but I think Lloyd does good work there despite all the problems with the paper.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 10:32 PM
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HIV resistance, and the bubonic plague Another nifty thing to look up. It is very cool.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 07:01 AM
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Thanks that narrowed it down enough to be completely searchable. This is one of the better ones I've found: http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2013/07/03/two-patients-remain-hiv-free-after-bone-marrow-transplants/ http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/04/health/post-transplant-and-off-drugs-hiv-patients-are-apparently-virus-free.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0&ref=health Still this seems to be treatment in its infancy and is hardly widespread.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 06:24 AM
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I'm not conflating women with feminists - I'm stating that most of the articles have brought up what would women think - as if it were actually relevant. That goes not only for some of the previously cited links in the overall thread including one from the Guardian but also in the video from RT I provided. tl,dr - all women not feminists, not all feminists women. Concern over female opinion more substantive than in providing this as an option. I too hope it takes off. I'd really prefer it happen…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 05:28 AM
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The problem isn't feminists, it's people identifying as feminists without understanding it. That's a lovely no true scotsman. Also loving the massive amount of deletions. My least favorite people would be SRSers - most of the people commenting on that thread appear to be men. You know, "allies".
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:55 AM
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Do you have linkage? I'd like to read up on this.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:48 AM
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I see nothing that will bridge the chasm between MHRAs and feminists. As far as I'm concerned if you're for equality in any way you're not a feminist. Please - show me an area where patriarchy isn't used as a catch all to demonize and other men and feminists actually own up to being part of the problem. This is a rainbow colored unicorn I am dying to see. Yet I've literally never seen an MHRA ever claim that men should have dominion over women's bodies ever. You claim this exists - but I'd need …
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:47 AM
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She stated that it was political reasons that largely have to do with the fact that there is no money for male contraceptives. Did you miss that? The doctor involved with using gossypol as a contraceptive also mentioned having issues with feminists. Where's your evidence that women "love the idea"?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:42 AM
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TIL condoms were 100 percent efficacious and that no one ever had a problem with them for any reason. Clearly everyone paying child support wanted the kid.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:38 AM
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Actually I expect it to be used as a reason to continue and make the current anti-male laws even stronger. It would have to drop to close to nothing or there be an outcry of women wanting to become pregnant where their SOs refuse.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:34 AM
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Exactly. This fixes every flaw. Not retaining consent should be treated as his not consenting by default.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:33 AM
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Oh? Then why hasn't there been a pill for men then? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwta1ftIJB4 Most articles on the subject default to what about the wimmens.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:31 AM
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Because men are not and should not be treated as people. They exist to serve women and society and should not be seen as having needs and emotions like other creatures. Also patriarchy.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:27 AM
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I haven't seen that at all. Even PreP is in the early stages.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:23 AM
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It is easily argued that anyone citing "the patriarchy" as a real thing is inherently misandric due to the fact that they see men - all men - as being responsible for every bad thing ever. I'd love to see anything showing MHRAs indicating that women should have their bodies controlled especially since it flies in the face of not only progressive MHRAs but in what appears to be the majority who are libertarians who are equally against laws diminishing a person's sovereignty over their own body.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:19 AM
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Usually it's editorial that writes headlines.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:15 AM
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This requires extensive citations.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:09 AM
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I think you're talking about the guy who pushed gossypol as a solution - and the trials were in the 90s if my memory is correct.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:08 AM
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Is it our fault that they're one of the only papers that actually covers things from a pro-male perspective from time to time? To me that says more about the state of journalism and just how ingrained feminism is to the mainstream media.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:05 AM
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I think your answer is best responded to as a question - would butch women be seen dead in these clothes?
/r/MensRights06/12/13 07:21 AM
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Maybe 3. If she gets a day of prison I will be shocked.
/r/MensRights06/12/13 07:16 AM
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Find the sources yet?
/r/MensRights06/12/13 06:59 AM
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Highest I recall an abortion being was about 400. Morning after pill is less than half. Contact your local Planned Parenthood for details.
/r/MensRights06/12/13 06:58 AM
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Bingo.
/r/MensRights06/12/13 06:02 AM
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The few voices? I see people of every color on the television all the time. Oprah has possibly the biggest voice on television - and an empire to boot. About the only sane argument that you could make is that since Sharpton is sure to guarantee a response the media as a whole is less interested in hearing what someone rational has to say. These days everyone's a pundit - and I will not tolerate anyone that supports Sharpton under any circumstance. Clearly when neither the Brawley incident or the…
/r/MensRights06/12/13 05:48 AM
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"I kind of doubt that". In essence, "I have nothing but my opinion". As if left-leaning sites weren't already bending over backwards to see which can be the most misandric.
/r/MensRights06/12/13 05:35 AM
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Really? That's funny most of what I'm hearing from the leftist (read feminist) press is that it's empowering to maybe a little skeezy but men deserve it.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 03:27 AM
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I don't think I could handle suicide hotlines and since depression is a problem I have I'm happy to jump in on those subs.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 12:07 PM
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Because consent can be revoked at any time. However, I find the concept of the only way to prove yourself innocent due entirely to the efforts of feminism to turn women into whores hilarious and delicious.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 12:03 PM
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Look at how that kind of thing is already seen including all the revenge porn sites - universal loathing even here on this sub. Yet Lulu is A-Ok. I know which one I find more repugnant.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 11:56 AM
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It's interesting - there are sites all about rating escorts (I dated one) and all of the comments I've seen talked about what character, looks, and how good they were. Even those that reported negative experiences weren't harsh like the Lulu ones have been.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 11:52 AM
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Relevance? I mean fisting is cool and all but pointing out fisting on a feminist website to this sub has me puzzled.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 11:48 AM
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At least until he leaves the oval office.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 11:41 AM
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4chan generally equates to empty threats. Those that graduated to Anonymous and the like are a different story.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 11:40 AM
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You know what I have to apologize because I didn't bother to look at the HuffPo piece since I saw the original. HuffPo's headline I will still argue is misleading but I blew it by not realizing that OP just re-posted the same headline. The problem as I see it is the mother is grasping at straws to protect her son and other men and of course feminists have pushed for the argument that women can revoke consent at any time (which they can but it makes adjudicating date rape such a nightmare as to b…
/r/MensRights29/11/13 10:18 AM
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There's a difference between an SJW type stating this is a necessity in order for it to be considered consensual and someone advocating that men protect themselves. A pretty significant difference.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 09:49 AM
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I give a lot of crap for this to people but this is a publication for moms that is hardly mainstream and it doesn't indicate outright misandry or affect men's rights in any way. This belongs in mensrants if anywhere. The article is dumb.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 12:15 AM
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That's not what the CNN article said. I've read it and commented on it and it advocates for men to CYA by getting that text. It's from a mother concerned for her son and by extension to college men everywhere.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 12:11 AM
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While I skimmed the article the author himself admits his own guilt at the same sort of thing at the bottom of the article. The use of inherent - I'm aware of what it means and also why I used it. It is one with the fiber of the constitution of the paper. If it were removed it would no longer be the same media outlet. You can choose to disagree with me for whatever reason but it is not an incorrect usage. Again, this is an argument better brought to the mods. I wouldn't move against it. We aren'…
/r/MensRights28/11/13 11:48 PM
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Eh, condemned by the Guardian. An outlet I have zero respect for due to its inherent misandry. This is the Mail's Dewey Wins! moment. It's not fabrication. So you're saying that even when the story and the reportage is fine like in this case we should source it elsewhere? If you want to suggest to the mods we make a rule that any story found in the Mail has to be sourced elsewhere I'm not against it but as long as the reportage is solid I don't really care. I just want to make sure that misandri…
/r/MensRights28/11/13 11:09 PM
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Wiil do. Happy Thanksgiving.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 10:39 PM
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I'd argue that something indicating a particular woman is evil belongs in mensrants and not here. *Caveat: if that woman is being treated better because she is a woman - and receiving preferential treatment from either the authorities or the media because of it then it should still be here. The reason I support this article being here is because if it's true it's pretty typical of divorces and what they are vastly more likely to allow women in divorce to get away with. Plenty of folks are alread…
/r/MensRights28/11/13 10:37 PM
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That describes every news outlet from what I can tell. Everyone has descended to yellow journalism to the point that I don't think old school journalism exists any more. Hell, look at that case of the lesbian waitress - every outlet just jumped on it even though it appears untrue. Whereas there was recently a gay male waiter that did get dumped on a few weeks prior and there was no interest despite it being entirely factual. I'm fading so I'm hoping that's clear. tl;dr - everyone's a tabloid the…
/r/MensRights28/11/13 02:28 PM
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The Mail is a tabloid but they're fairly random as to whose side they're on at any given moment. The Post article doesn't claim anything different it just has less photos.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 12:20 PM
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It's nice to see a feminist that agrees that men can't be feminists. Please go about educating them all.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 10:52 AM
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The only people allowed to have an opinion are feminists.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 10:49 AM
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Because they're claiming women have agency in their lives and careers. Did you watch the video or read the commentary? I thought the video was quite good.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 10:44 AM
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A woman points out the problem of date rape hysteria and got there by having a son. Not surprising, really. I don't think it's at all realistic - hell it's better to just record the sex - but it's nice to see someone calling women on their hypoagency and pushing guys to get their shit together over this issue. I can't wait to see how few of these guys are likely to marry or have kids in the next 20 years. I expect men marrying to be close to non-existent by then.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 10:23 AM
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Misandry in action.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 09:56 AM
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Couldn't have been from UNWomen that's for sure.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 09:54 AM
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Fuck.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 09:48 AM
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Don't they have vibrators for that kind of thing?
/r/MensRights28/11/13 09:44 AM
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That's a complete misreading of the article. It's taking members of the LGBT team to task for making anti-trans comments. Tranny is nothing other than pejorative. Downvoted.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 09:43 AM
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The hit piece made it to the website until there were too many MHRA comments on there (most of the AVFM crew for example) and they shut it down. Not sure if the page is even up anymore.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 09:40 AM
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More SRS heroes. Do you know who will be saluting your "good deeds" in cemetaries throughout the land in 30 years SJWs? No one. All you've done is make the world a worse place to live in.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 09:38 AM
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Surprisingly good news. Thanks Doug, and thanks for all your good work in the various subs here.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 09:29 AM
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Sure.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 09:28 AM
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Cool! I'm glad to see this.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 09:26 AM
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Color me completely unsurprised.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 09:22 AM
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That's cool. I thought the article was interesting on the whole.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 09:04 AM
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Actually they claim we're misogynists because they don't want men's issues addressed at all. Anything else is a smokescreen.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 08:23 AM
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I can't volunteer money but I support anyone of us that does.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 08:18 AM
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We get way too many clowns claiming everything isn't men's rights. Our biggest problem is that we are far too lenient with who we allow in the sub and not banning more feminists outright as we take the risk of becoming yet another toothless or targeted group. There is no degree of being circumspect we can do that will keep clowns from targeting us. This article belongs.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 08:13 AM
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And you will do time unless you can prove it was defensive - the police and the courts will be against you.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 07:51 AM
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Shh, we're a hate movement we don't want to actually help anyone. /s
/r/MensRights28/11/13 07:44 AM
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It's about damned time.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 07:30 AM
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We don't need a code of conduct and worrying about others taking us seriously when most are openly hostile that we exist at all is a waste of time. No one is stopping you from making a post about men and boys being turned away from shelters on any holiday you choose.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 07:18 AM
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Those are all leaders of movements - other than Khan and Stalin the rest never got their hands dirty.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 03:41 AM
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This is the most obvious answer. This is a reprehensible human being and I don't see that this article belongs here under the circumstances.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 03:38 AM
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Logic is key, getting people to pay attention to what someone does instead of what someone says, using analysis - it's basic stuff that no one, not even parents, seem to be teaching. They might be - and some people cleave so hard to their victimization that nothing will get through to them - but even if it helps a few it will be worthwhile. Some people whether they're victims or abusers - in any situation - just can't be reached. Other people need counseling and/or medication. I'm sorry to hear …
/r/MensRights28/11/13 03:10 AM
1

Really? What exactly does feminism have to be angry about? Made up problems are all I see.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 01:43 AM
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Then go back to TRP or TBP or wherever it is you think you fit in best. You might want to see a doctor about that knee jerk problem you have.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 01:35 AM
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Abortions aren't that expensive at least in the U.S. plus there's the morning after pill which is even less expensive. Man should not pay more than half. What does any of this have to do with legal paternal surrender?
/r/MensRights28/11/13 01:33 AM
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Clearly she is the victim. Looking forward to seeing the SRS response.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 01:29 AM
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As a society we could put more emphasis on women not making predominantly emotional choices. Or thinking that their emotions are their selves. As long as there's something to exploit someone will do it in order to get sex.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 12:44 AM
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Boo fucking hoo. These are the laws and the courts feminists made and now they cry about it that a man has any rights at all. After they made move-aways more easily obtainable. Fathers have too many rights because mothers don't have all of them - exclusively forever. tl;dr - non-lawyer feminist hates fathers thinks they shouldn't have rights.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 12:40 AM
1

I love the NP. I wish there was an equivalent here in the states.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 12:31 AM
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Then you haven't been reading closely enough. It was mentioned clearly in the first fucking comment I made in thread. i.e. women with prostates. We're done.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 08:24 AM
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"...some have complex relationships with their former lives. Is that really so hard to comprehend? I mean I get not everyone lives in a part of the country where you see transfolks pretty much everyday but they are people." This has become tiresome. See above and go back to my first post. You've not made a single comment in this thread taking those things into account.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 08:04 AM
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I'm not sure what it is you're dancing around. Transwomen get discriminated against in real life - and some have complex relationships with their former lives. Is that really so hard to comprehend? I mean I get not everyone lives in a part of the country where you see transfolks pretty much everyday but they are people. And if you really want to be pedantic about things Peter Criss got a lot of shit from people especially on Blabbermouth for talking about his breast cancer. If it's likely to cau…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 07:51 AM
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No, the mustache part puts transwomen in a strange position. Of course prostate cancer is a concern ergo my post there.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 06:46 AM
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Sorry if that seemed douchey or dismissive. This is one of those times when what I'm trying to get at I'm struggling with coming to the right words.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 02:12 AM
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I'm not saying that some transwomen wouldn't be comfortable enough to be able to do that - I'm saying that it can be awkward and uncomfortable. Not all transwomen want to be reminded of their past lives. What you're arguing is fine when applied to cis women.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 01:30 AM
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Ok, I get it now. Thanks. That's valid. This whole sex offenders hysteria has become a runaway train.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 12:28 AM
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We have no control over how the media paints the movement - they have a vested interest in maintaining the current feminized status quo. That's how it works at the beginning of a movement. We not only don't have control of the dialog we don't have control of the language or the means of production - in this case the media. All exposure at this point is good exposure. I could concede your having a point if we had critical mindshare at or past the midpoint of the movement. Not until then.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 05:19 PM
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Yes. I don't see the relevance of the question. Also, if you've been paying attention there are a lot of black men and men of other races in the MHRM as well as women and if you count them separately transfolks. There is a lot of anger. Seeing your loved ones get fucked over because of their sex will do that to you. Getting screwed in divorce court because you have the wrong parts will do that to you. So will the mere realization of the depth of discrimination.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 05:10 PM
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There's Game0fDolls (sic?) too. I can't say I'm enamored of it or FeMRAd but at least they're not as horrible as the other feminist subs. Still, I'm damning them with faint praise. The bottom line is that feminists aren't interested in men having equivalent rights. Any feminist should, on the face of it *(provided they are interested in equality and not just mouthing the word), support legal parental surrender if they consider abortion a legal right. The vast majority do not. There's very little…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 04:29 PM
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Anyone that uses the term microaggressions seriously is not worth giving the time of day to. I did make a post (my only thus far) asking in lgbt how and what transwomen would be doing for movember or if they were likely to address it since it affected them as well. I didn't get very far with it unfortunately. I suspect it was considered to be taking away from TDOR (which is as far from the truth as possible). Movember is a good thing. I wouldn't want to see it ended due to some misguided academi…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 04:14 PM
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In states like California it does not matter if you've been statutorily raped or not. It's true for the majority of states. The bottom line is that if you've got a penis you will pay.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 03:01 PM
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A couple random thoughts- one, Venker is pro-male and I don't think she's wrong that if you're going to have a family that it makes sense to have a functional unit of support. The problem being that the laws don't support there being that family unit any longer and it is suicide for a man to submit himself to that old methodology. I cannot understand why any man would allow himself to be used in such a manner knowing full well that allowing his wife to work anything less than 40 hours means that…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 02:19 PM
2

I like you. Also I'd like to emphasize this: "Not every man wants to be the bread winner." The problem being that both traditionalists and lifeboat feminists will call this kind of man not a man.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 02:12 PM
1

Yeah now that I think on it a bit more there were guys in my units that had them too - it seems like it was less common. If it was less than 9 weeks and it didn't have sufficiently long term effects then I can see your point. I'm just saying that there's an amount of bullshit in the military that makes me believe this is possibly real and not just them malingering. One of my friends from basic got their spine shredded at AIT - I don't think they got this kind of payout. I do know that there was …
/r/MensRights26/11/13 01:28 PM
1

Off-topic and perhaps only semi-relevant: When I was in a fair amount of the women soldiers I served with (especially some of the shorter ones) got shin splints. It was far from universal however. It was determined in a couple of those cases that it was an unknown pre-existing condition (one was a friend and squadmate) and they got exemptions from marching in some circumstances. Basically longer marches as memory serves. So it could be these girls skiving but just as likely it could be intransig…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 01:14 PM
1

Either that's new (new being relative to being since the '80s) or then we were doing it wrong. I'm as short as most of those women and as much as I hated marching I don't recall discomfort when we were on the parade grounds. Admittedly I did my best to avoid them though. Regardless I stand corrected. Thanks.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 01:06 PM
1

So, I'm feeling ok at the moment (thank heavens for chicken congee) so I'll give it a whirl. First thing I need to do is ask questions. What happened to idealism in feminism? Perhaps I missed it but it certainly seems like it was never there. There is no camaraderie or celebration of any men's movement yet men are demanded to support feminism despite there being nothing in it for them. What is the benefit in having a movement that hates men? How does it benefit the people in that movement? Why s…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 12:51 PM
1

Unknown pre-existing condition is entirely possible. Still, this article is significantly low on facts and we shouldn't be jumping to conclusions based on something this poor.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 12:15 PM
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I agree. This is looking more and more like a smear campaign like the one used against the elderly woman that got third degree burns and needed skin grafts because McDonalds made their coffee too damn hot - (in case you're unaware it was part of a campaign for tort limitations to ensure people got less money so that greedy corporations wouldn't have to pay as much).
/r/MensRights26/11/13 12:14 PM
1

Evidence? It was never measured when I was in the service - even when we were in parades.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 12:11 PM
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Many thanks for the clarification. I'm glad to hear that they're treated better over there than I thought. ADA has been watered down to the point of uselessness here. Employers are allowed to ask if you've got a disability and then will refuse you work even if you're entirely able to do the work without the slightest worry. All they have to do is claim there are other reasons. The employer is king here.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 12:08 PM
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I'm disappointed someone downvoted you, I did upvote you. Thanks for the response and food for thought. I don't see any compelling methodology for determining why women do what they do as it will end up being conjecture regardless - short of brain studies anyway (which will still lead to somewhat informed theories but theories that will end up being politicized nonetheless).
/r/MensRights26/11/13 12:03 PM
2

I agree that plea bargains need to be changed - we need a uniform list of things that won't get you put on a sex offenders watch list. I don't see how it shifts the injustice to adult men however.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 11:58 AM
1

So it's likely true for at least one of these women. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the need for an arbitrary yet mandatory stride distance.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 11:56 AM
1

While you have a solid point I'm going to argue that all outlets are guilty of this behavior now. Does anyone remember when the Atlantic was a good magazine? When you didn't have a healthy chortle at something in the NY Times? When the Washington Post was respected? When the Guardian wasn't publishing some rabidly misandric screed? I'm from the left and I am uniformly ashamed of what passes for journalism these days. About the only paper I've seen of late that hasn't yet made me want to regurgit…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 11:55 AM
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With all due respect I think you should re-read the thread. I don't see any of that at all. It seems to me that you're not seeing someone that is clearly ignorant in the extreme. Perhaps you don't know people like this because you've not had to work with them but they are most assuredly out there.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 11:51 AM
5

Which goes against literally everything feminists have said is true about patriarchy.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 10:04 AM
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I'm tired and more than a little skeptical this isn't some lame attempt to troll so you can say to your bigoted pals "oh look what the MRA said feminists should be doing trollolololol!" Regardless I'm tired and done with reddit for the day. I may or may not answer tomorrow or Monday depending on what goes down.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 09:59 AM
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I'd like to certainly. Thanks for the levity. :) I'm just saying that the education gap has been a real thing for 40 years and no one cares. My prognosis for making it to another 40 is highly unlikely. Given the uphill battle we have to get men seen as human beings with real issues I have my doubts. I remain cautiously optimistic however.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 09:01 AM
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Well, if these studies come to pass I sincerely hope you're right. I was hoping to see these issues addressed and preferably at least partially solved in my lifetime however.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 08:47 AM
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I can't believe you're here supporting Sharpton and Jackson. After not only Duke or the Tawana Brawley case but in raising the hysteria over the Zimmerman case on behalf of a woman that couldn't even raise her child properly. Sharpton is a bigot. He's said many bigoted things - which, you know, makes him a bigot. When someone says black leaders I think NAACP not Al Sharpton who is someone with an agenda, a chip on his shoulder and is fundamentally uninterested in anything other than throwing gre…
/r/MensRights24/11/13 08:37 AM
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For one it has attracted, and feminists have feted, women with severe problems like Dworkin and Solanas. It also gives voice to those that feel as though they're not in control of their lives and wish to put that agency on others so that they don't have to take responsibility for the messes they've made of their lives. Then we see the rabid circlejerking of Tumblr feminists, SRSers, and the majority of online feminists who not only a) believe the problems of their choosing are the most important…
/r/MensRights24/11/13 08:31 AM
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Notice how the only time someone talks about fueling a gender war is when men are fighting back. Considering the raw deal men get I find Dowd's comments either ridiculously naive or downright disingenuous.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 08:12 AM
1

1) internet search for men cannot be feminists or men can only be allies etc. Several Jezebel and other feminist blogs should pop up on the first page. 2) I haven't seen misogyny since the '70s which is literally the last time I recall anyone saying "women can't do x" with a straight face or not wanting them to work with them for reasons not based on experience. 3) it's child's play to find mainstream feminists of each movement making misandric comments (as well as being dismissive of transwomen…
/r/MensRights24/11/13 08:03 AM
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Only when you're having issues. As opposed to having an actual issue. Certainly there's a compelling argument to be made that feminism is symptomatic of mental illness.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 07:54 AM
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Well, that is after all what feminism and AMR are about - how you feel about things and not whether there are any issues since you all are utterly convinced men have none (and that even if they did paying any attention to it as our movement does is still derailing from the very clearly more important and pressing needs of feminists who are grasping at straws to find anything worth talking about).
/r/MensRights24/11/13 07:32 AM
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In other words facts are superfluous.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 07:21 AM
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That may be - or it may be that they gave their concerns to the chain and it was denied. There's not a lot of depth to that article.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 06:32 AM
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No they aren't. I agree the amount of the settlements is bullshit and that heads should roll. Frankly I've always thought a limb should be a million dollars due to the fact that getting nearly any regular job is going to be a bitch. This is it the equivalent of getting 250k for a permanent but not debilitating back injury.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 06:31 AM
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Police will lie to you. Prosecutors think they're doing a fine job, get a notch in their belt and never think about the fallout. They're usually a larger part of the problem than the police because the pressure comes from above. The only way to change it is by making the laws specifically omit actions done as a minor and prohibiting putting them on predator lists.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 05:32 AM
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The fact they were overpaid is an issue. When I was in the service there were no baseline stride lengths but this case is in the U.K. I served with people of both sexes taller and shorter than me and never saw anyone yelled at for not being able to match an arbitrary marching stride (though as a short person long marches in basic weren't fun). This might well be a real issue. Musculoskeletal injuries are no joke.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 05:27 AM
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What I so inelegantly was alluding to was that by pushing for this we open the door to a bunch of specious studies that will continue to flood the media and control mindshare for decades in the same way the so-called wage gap does. I'm not against empirical data - and it would be an interesting thing to pursue if the issue weren't so politically charged. I'm not saying not to do a study based on whether the fempire would like it or not - I have problems with opening yet another door for them to …
/r/MensRights24/11/13 05:18 AM
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This is the end game feminists want in rape cases as well. Prove your innocence - while you rot in jail. I'm surprised that the current administration hasn't pushed for this kind of law. Links for follow up here: http://www.rvproduction.net/links.html
/r/MensRights24/11/13 04:33 AM
3

Maybe someone can pastebin that? It looks like a good article.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 04:24 AM
1

Does finding out why women are less likely to run really merit analysis? The likelihood of getting a study that isn't horrifically biased or isn't used as yet another reason to launch a social justice crusade seems exceedingly small. If it finds that women just aren't interested it will be buried as anything else that doesn't fit feminist dogma does.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 04:19 AM
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There is a tremendous difference between following someone for the purposes of knowing where they are going (something any LEO or security guard will be all too happy to explain to you in detail) and getting right up on someone. Regardless of either none of that excuses throwing the first punch let alone straddling someone. He didn't say on the phone call he was lost or couldn't find his way back - you're just making things up. For TM it's "would have been, could have been" with you making every…
/r/MensRights24/11/13 03:22 AM
1

There is no evidence he was chased. Someone scared goes home as quickly as they can and calls the police. He doesn't cold cock someone then straddle him MMA style while knocking his head in the ground.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 02:28 AM
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No, it isn't. The appropriate response to a non-violent action is not violence. I'm sorry you've been brainwashed to think that a "white" latino mixed race man shot a "kid" who was taller and more muscular than he to death out of mere whim or abject racism but those aren't the facts. The same thing I always do when someone is doing something I find disconcerting - call them on it. Generally my question is - "is there a problem?". However that's not the response you're looking for. You're looking…
/r/MensRights24/11/13 02:27 AM
3

I didn't realize all men were vampires.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 01:09 AM
1

If your only way of learning is by being hit you have a much bigger problem than anger management.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 01:07 AM
2

I doubt she'll serve that many.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:57 AM
2

TIL self-defense when you're getting your head pounded into the ground is murder.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:55 AM
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That is a wild and inaccurate twisting of the facts to fit a narrative.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:54 AM
2

Damn it I wish I could vote this up more. Nailed it.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:49 AM
1

Don't hold your breath.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:39 AM
2

I see absolutely nothing wrong with anything Coulter wrote there. I've argued against using Coulter here before but regardless I think we should go by what she writes rather than who she is. Let's be clear - leftists did make the divorce court situation what it is. I also am a leftist so I have no reason to attack the same side unless it's guilty - which it is here. Feminism and leftists go hand in hand. Certainly there is crossover between fundies and feminists but that is irrelevant here.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:39 AM
1

A deadbeat dad is typified by his inability and perceived unwillingness to pay. The fact that for many men that it is a legitimate protest against a system that disenfranchises them and makes them non-parents or refuses to enforce visitation agreements while they ensure the money train keeps rolling in.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:33 AM
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Most states allow service by publication. All of what you mentioned the woman is doing is pretty common. I'm surprised she didn't get a restraining order and claim he was violent and abusive as is usually the script. Hell she's already made informal accusations. He needs a lawyer. He'll probably need a MD lawyer and not a VA one unless he can clearly establish prior residency in his state (likely a lost cause and waste of time and money). Any money not going directly into food and housing is goi…
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:30 AM
1

In that case not giving up the ass and failing to provide threesomes is misandric bullshit.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:25 AM
2

That's not restricted to leftists in any way. Please show me all the sobbing and apologias for McCarthyism. Vermin are vermin no matter the political stripe.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:21 AM
2

We will never persuade anyone that avidly follows bigots. While Jackson has done many questionable things Sharpton is an out and out bigot.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:19 AM
2

8.75 out of 10. Would read again.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:17 AM
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I truly hope this is the quote that destroys her in the run up to 2016. This along with her quote of dodging snipers should keep that piece of shit from getting elected dog catcher.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:14 AM
2

This is the case in most states.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:10 AM
1

Shush you! How dare you bring facts and reason into my argument of feels!
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:06 AM
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That depends on Facebook's rules as literally anything you put up there becomes their property and copyright provided you're a citizen and not an entity to the best of my knowledge. Some jurisdictions probably put some restraints on that but in the U.S. we care more about profits and corporations than we do about the rights of the individual.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:00 AM
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Your argument is quite literally the same as those that opposed Galileo - and for the same reason - an appeal to authority.
/r/MensRights23/11/13 07:49 AM
1

Cite? I didn't realize that the pro-circumcision side wasn't in and of itself an echo chamber. Some != the majority last time I checked.
/r/MensRights23/11/13 07:47 AM
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You need citations. If this is going on I know people that will start some major shit over this.
/r/MensRights23/11/13 12:05 AM
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Because they've never been wrong before amirite? I'm sure the UN has never done anything that was politically expedient rather than efficacious because no one ever does that.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 11:54 PM
2

So why didn't you say anything?
/r/MensRights22/11/13 11:31 PM
3

Cite?
/r/MensRights22/11/13 11:30 PM
6

Clearly that attention whoring is working out better than in their wildest dreams.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 11:28 PM
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It does.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 11:27 PM
1

Agreed.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 11:24 PM
3

Of course that's true. To be blunt so many of those kids have either fathers too busy working to be actively engaged in their children's lives or no father to speak of. There are few male teachers in middle school and at the K-6 levels it's a desert. However, try advocating that there should be scholarships and programs pushing for more male teachers and watch the backlash. The interesting thing is that people that actually have the children's best interests in mind will support it wholeheartedl…
/r/MensRights22/11/13 11:23 PM
1

I think you can make a case for ill-educated to even stupid but I'm curious what made you come to that conclusion.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 11:07 PM
2

I'm not saying that we shouldn't combat this socially, just that it will be an uphill battle on all fronts. These women are wonderful pieces have been done since at least the early '70s.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 11:01 PM
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You are not following me. At 3 you should let a child play with whatever they like. That doesn't mean you stop being a parent i.e. steering things. Clearer? What I'm trying to indicate is that children at different times and different ages require different techniques. Laying down the law when unnecessary is bad and so is not providing boundaries or establishing expectations (primarily as regards behavior).
/r/MensRights22/11/13 10:58 PM
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In certain areas circumcision is done using a rock, that appears to be true. That, in no way justifies your point of view. Sorry, didn't realize I wasn't talking to the OP. Are you referring here to FGM or MGM then?
/r/MensRights22/11/13 10:55 PM
1

lol No, the science is not in. Clearly you prefer to omit words like "may" and discount the studies indicating increased risk of HIV for your own purposes. Primarily because I think you're trolling.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 10:53 PM
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In this particular case you don't. I'm referring to parenting style more than in influencing gender issues. Which isn't to say that the later princess thing that girls go through should be wholeheartedly supported either. Children need grounding. Setting limits with children is important. I've known more than my share of parents that are hands off and their children are the worse for it. However, I can't be sure I'm making sense at this point. I should have been to bed a couple hours ago but thi…
/r/MensRights22/11/13 01:59 PM
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That listing does not say what you think it does. In fact it throws up far more questions than answers. No study since 2007 finds for male circumcision. Plus there's this gem: "Baeten et al. (2005) found that uncircumcised men were at a greater than twofold increased risk of acquiring HIV per sex act when compared with circumcised men. They conclude as follows: "Moreover, our results strengthen the substantial body of evidence suggesting that variation in the prevalence of male circumcision may …
/r/MensRights22/11/13 01:44 PM
3

I continue my drift away from leftism as well.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 01:31 PM
1

I second the EEOC suggestion. Also this is gender discrimination which I believe is prohibited (too tired to look up).
/r/MensRights22/11/13 01:28 PM
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No one is chiding you for your methodology. It doesn't change the way the majority of women think however. I generally presume the person making more money should pay the most and sometimes I've been that person and other times I haven't. If I like someone then I don't mind spoiling them sometimes but I absolutely demand the same in return.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 01:20 PM
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Actually there is documented proof that men more often get less satisfaction post-circumcision. http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2013/02/circumcision-decreases-sensitivity-and-sexual-enjoyment-study-finds-345.html http://www.lovematters.info/circumcised-men-have-more-orgasm-trouble
/r/MensRights22/11/13 12:55 PM
2

FGM is more like chopping off the head of a penis entirely No it isn't. There are 3-4 common methods. The closest parallel and to the best of my knowledge the most common is circumcising the clitoral hood which is a direct analog to male circumcision.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 12:54 PM
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this is a wonderful program which will save lives. Extensive citation needed. Claiming that this is anti-science spam when there are no long term studies indicating this is anything more than an anomolous outcome is hardly cause for a celebration.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 12:50 PM
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When the parent is retarded.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 12:35 PM
1

Love your child as they are. Steer things but at that age don't be a tyrant. You can wait until they're older for that.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 12:35 PM
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Maybe so (and this is an argument I'm well familiar with having pushed Jem as an alternative) but she doesn't see it that way. She merely wants to reinforce traditional gender roles. It's not like she tossed out her barbies for being abhorrent. She held on to them.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 12:34 PM
2

We are so many decades away from even getting near this discussion as to render it moot.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 08:55 AM
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Actually I think you're a pretty funny troll.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 08:53 AM
6

8.5/10. That was a hoot.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 08:23 AM
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Well at least you're right about the part where there are words at a library. I have to give credit where it's due.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 08:10 AM
2

Men think better of women and women think better of women. This is an uphill battle biologically not just socially.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 07:57 AM
8

Woah that is deep. I hope you're in line for tenure track in your Philosophy department!
/r/MensRights22/11/13 07:56 AM
8

I expected better. After all I got a hearty laugh out of your previous comment. 3/10. Still, I find amusing that anyone considers nihilist or nihilism an arcane word. Maybe that says more about the failure of USians to read russian literature or to read philosophical texts however.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 07:53 AM
11

More, more! Bravissima!
/r/MensRights22/11/13 07:24 AM
9

Please tell me more about your childhood. -strokes beard and puffs on pipe- Tell me about your mother.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 06:55 AM
10

Because oral sex is the same as piv sex. I'll go call Bill Clinton right now. There is nothing I've read that indicated that she insisted she give him a bj as opposed to her insisting he go down on her but I'm at least open to hearing otherwise. I stand corrected. I'm sure you'll enjoy your time at The Red Pill you alpha dawg you. Have fun!
/r/MensRights22/11/13 06:46 AM
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My tolerance for bullshit is at an all-time low. Seeing as I'm much closer to the end of my life than the beginning of it I don't see that changing any time soon. If you have a point you should make it now. E2A: you know what's really awesome? When the person you're trying to give the benefit of the doubt shits on you and calls you names. But perhaps you missed what your pal up there said before it was deleted.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 06:38 AM
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The only thing we can hope for is that there are more women with common decency. What I find amusing is the feminists with sons that finally grasp there might be something rotten in Denmark and that for their own children's success they'll have to address the evils they put in place. Not that a single one of them owns the damage they've done. However, the same personal is political and narcissistic self-interest is at play.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 06:33 AM
7

I thought narcissistic sociopathy fit feminism at large to a T.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 06:26 AM
16

but there is a clear difference in severity of long term trauma. Cite? I'm loving your "it's always worse for girls" argument. Are you sure you're at the right sub? the biggest difference, if the roles were reversed is the lack of physical pain. Because having your mouth open for extended periods of time is super traumatic and painful - for women.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 06:24 AM
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Too bad it's too late to sterilize this woman in advance.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 06:18 AM
2

I'm not following your parallel to MGM regarding censorship and freedom of speech. It's cool. Thanks for understanding. I bit hard at first read and wasn't sure where you were going with it until we continued this conversation. My tendency is to be harsh until I see reason which is something I need to work on. It's informed by the constant dismissal of real issues but that's not an excuse to launch into people before hearing them out. My apologies for being harsh in my first comment to you.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 06:03 AM
5

I'm talking about the constant stream of "not men's rights" comments - not necessarily you. I'm trying to point out that this is a problem and that whether you mean to or not you're falling into the same trap. I'm not the one who downvoted you. I've indicated why it was the likely outcome. Challenging people's ideas is one thing - however we do consistently see this behavior as well as those that are all too happy to see MGM as either a lesser issue or a non-issue. When you're already a minority…
/r/MensRights22/11/13 04:41 AM
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We get a plethora of people complaining that something isn't men's rights when it clearly is. By listening to those voices instead of challenging them or downvoting them we acknowledge there are no issues and that we should disappear (which our opponents would dearly love so they can get back to their gynocentrism). There is no solid evidence that it does anything. None of the studies supporting circumcision are exhaustive and it is at best a bandaid on a problem the size of a gaping wound. You …
/r/MensRights22/11/13 03:19 AM
1

What you're saying is that we should forego the tactics of the opposition in some misguided attempt to take the high road while conveniently ignoring that if we don't take those same steps that a) the discrimination will continue and b) that otherwise those same SJWs will continue using it as a tool against men. Let me be blunt. Until transmen have a much louder voice the chances of cis men getting heard without resorting to the same tactics is effectively zero.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 02:52 AM
1

Best of luck to you. Props for doing your best as a father. Rarely will people give them to you - but you deserve it.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 02:47 AM
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TIL male circumcision is not a men's rights issue. If they were informed they wouldn't have made the decision. The numbers regarding effectiveness against HIV are hotly contested and dubious on its face.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 02:41 AM
1

And the endless crying here about those women is as bad if not worse than on the feminist subs.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 02:38 AM
0

What every SRSer would like to be.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 02:36 AM
1

If you've come here for moral support that's not a problem. However, not knowing the judge or family court services counselors it's a crap shoot. Sorry. I hope you win though.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 02:22 AM
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I'm going to say 3 months minimum or until book, movie deal.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 02:18 AM
2

The point is so that you can petition for more time with your children. Get a bigger place preferably and go for a minimum of 50 percent custody/visitation.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 02:07 AM
0

And more often than not it will be your last. You're in the minority - and that's awesome you're that way but you can look at any article discussing who pays regardless of whether it's a feminist site or not and the outcome will be the same - the majority demand the man pay. I personally expect at the very least the other person pay the tip.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 10:17 PM
2

You'd be wrong. In all cases the man typically pays. Sure, in some isolated instances this isn't always the case but it is always assumed.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 09:40 PM
2

The Daily Mail writes all headlines for the maximum amount of outrage whereas here in 'Murica we only write headlines that won't offend the feels of feminists.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 02:37 PM
0

Actually more. First of all it takes away the inherent disconnect of most women from most labor jobs - eating away at the antipathy feminists have for working class people and possibly reinvigorating union movements. Secondly it makes war a less appealing outcome. Third it holds women equally accountable (those equal responsibilities that should come with equal rights).
/r/MensRights21/11/13 01:24 PM
-3

I don't care about TRP. The only people linking us are the usual suspects who more than hypocritically don't call out radfems (but why would they - they either are or secretly love radfems) who are very much a part of their movement. And for all their "concern" for transfolks you can look to what leading lights of their movement like Steinem have to say. TRPers aren't even MGTOWs.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 01:08 PM
0

Which one claims to be about equality again?
/r/MensRights21/11/13 03:05 AM
5

Thanks for keeping these in the forefront on the mr sub.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 02:53 AM
1

Sure, the next time a woman does this to them - as I've known hundreds primarily from the south to do so - as equally sexist etc. Personally I'd call them on their sexist,classist, regionist bullshit but that's me.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 02:49 AM
3

Which is why you unfriend people like this in real life. Guess which is the biggest group on F-book? If you guessed the exact same group that is feminists - white (upper) middle class women that have never done a lick of hard work, let alone manual labor, in their lives you win the jackpot.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 02:43 AM
3

Because a feminist rag would want to see men's issues addressed in any way - and certainly not framed by actual men.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 02:40 AM
1

If this is a real post and not some made up bullshit then get the both of you into couples counseling yesterday. If that doesn't work then formulate a divorce plan. Ditching your kids while understandable is a terrible thing to do. I agree with geiger though this sounds like horse shit.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 02:30 AM
0

You seem to forget that this is a common problem that women do in relationships - dump on their SO instead of seeking therapy. Clearly if this isn't a Poe she's taking him for granted.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 02:26 AM
1

Messing with a family member is always bad news. Never volunteer information. Agreeing with the police or your accuser that anything occurred at all is usually a free trip to the jailhouse. It looks like trial is a real possibility (and might have a better outcome). As stated elsewhere get a better lawyer. Everyone should be considering counseling. An attorney should be focused on getting the false rape accusation pushed.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 02:23 AM
2

I'm aware that first convictions get a lesser sentence - we're not arguing that bit. I'm discussing how the media treats it (and how society at large looks at it). i've no idea why you posted the server memory link but then the joke might have just swooped over my head. Do you not see the difference between: "Man on probation for sexual assault" and "Former Titans cheerleader pleads 'no contest' to reduced charges involving preteen"? Or this "Arizona man gets probation in sexual assault case"? I…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 02:04 AM
3

Only if that "you" is female with bonus points for being attractive. I'd love to see an MSM piece about a man doing the same amount of time for a 12 year old girl getting the same treatment as this woman.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 01:42 AM
1

You should have gotten out of the car. End of story. Also getting in a car with someone with a serious mental illness is always a bad idea. Enclosed space+crazy is always a lose/lose situation.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 01:32 AM
1

So if it "just happens" to disadvantage men that's ok? Nice to know you're happy to throw on your fellow man onto the fire for the sake of capitalist ethics.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 01:15 AM
1

The cause isn't reasonable. We wholeheartedly disagree. There is a need to discuss those issues because they inform how we address things legally or not. I saw that you were less concerned about actual harrassment - as are most of the people on your side of the fence who are absent from the conversations on the smear campaign against that professor, and that you consider this less of an issue than adultery as betrayal. If your concern was about betrayal or harrassment either of those issues are …
/r/MensRights21/11/13 01:14 AM
1

Alternet loves its misandry. Loves it. Loves its false equivalencies and its race baiting as well. Anything that shows males as anything other than perpetrators at Alternet is always surprising.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 01:09 AM
1

She's vindictive for pursuing a criminal case instead of a civil one - yes. If there's some documented evidence that it has caused people not to get jobs I'd like to see that evidence. No, I'm not trolling. I don't see this as a criminal issue and never have. If we're going to make being shitty criminal we have to change a whole lot of laws including no-fault divorce.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 01:04 AM
0

I've never seen that fat sack of shit make a point based on logic, reasoning or reality in his whole life. The bottom line is that you people hate the fact that men's issues are getting any publicity at all.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 12:48 AM
0

Says you. As far as I'm concerned anyone that isn't in the "extreme man-hating version" are enablers. Show me an important feminist leader (one that has clout) and that has never made a misandric or anti-transwoman statement. Show me one that actually means equality. Cathy Young and Hoff-Sommers are the minority. So is Paglia. Nor did I decide that men can only be allies and sometimes not even that - those would also be feminists. See a gazillion articles in Jezebel etc. ad nauseum.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 12:46 AM
1

Well deleted, that wasn't out of left field at all. I consider myself a leftist and it doesn't seem as if you were following the thread at all. We were discussing bias and I was expounding on my lived history - not making any judgments. Literally no one was making a left vs. right paradigm.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 12:40 AM
3

You know damn well that the exemption will not be made for an all-male taxi service. You're really reaching.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 02:03 PM
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Going to bed so this is really off the cuff. When you drink and drive do you trust that you're going to get home in one piece? Does shit happen that you didn't plan for? Sure. Ever trust someone with some information you didn't want to get around but it happened anyway? Everyone has. If you're so horrified at the prospect of it happening you don't do it - or you take the risk of embarrassment of having it made public. There is no proven harm. None. I expect adults to act like adults and own what…
/r/MensRights14/11/13 02:02 PM
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It isn't a different issue. The company wants an exemption to benefit the same group that argued for the rules themselves. No free passes based on sex. No making exemptions without a clear ruling that requires that both sides get the same treatment.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 01:48 PM
3

Cereal philanderer.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 01:44 PM
1

This is consistent with other reports, which tend to suggest that women make up 35-40 percent of traffickers, as Cameron Conway highlights in his article, ‘Human Trafficking – The Other 20%’. E2A: Jeez RufusSewell, no need to delete the post.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 01:26 PM
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Anyone trusting someone else with compromising pictures is indeed stupid. She's a bitch for being vindictive and trying to put him in jail for something that at most should be a fine.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 01:14 PM
2

Best of luck to you. I hope someone from your part of the world can give some advice. I'm likely to be away from reddit til sometime this weekend but if you haven't other advice by then feel free to pm me and I'll take some time to do some searches.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 01:09 PM
2

What do you mean I only get to see my kids every other weekend? I fucking raised them while she was at work! I'm loving the trend of househusbands in feminist related blogs lately. The reaming those ass clowns will get will center them for sure. One day: SRS Men (who are anything but) next TRP.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 01:00 PM
1

A feminist would argue you were acting in your own self-interest as a man, not as a feminist. Oh, and sorry you can't be a feminist, just an ally. Sometimes not even that.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 12:53 PM
0

Anyone that cites Futrelle for anything is an instant loss. There is zero credibility there - as there is with the woman writing that article. She equated the whole movement as one of hatemongers while conveniently turning a blind eye to her movement's inherent misandry.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 12:52 PM
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Not if they have to have an exemption made just for them. Unless and until male-only services aren't torn down at the first opportunity women-only should not get special benefits at the very least.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 12:40 PM
1

If you want moral support you've come to the right place. Many of the folks here have similar stories. As far as what you can do if you want to change the situation- depends on whether your father is in the picture or not or whether you're employed to the point of being able to pay your own rent.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 12:30 PM
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The last thing you should do is talk to this girl. Consult an attorney. I don't know where you are in the world but in the U.S. the local county bar association has a list of low to no cost consultations. If you're on good terms with your parents tell them and maybe they can help you with the attorney visit. You haven't been charged with anything yet though but a letter of concern coming from your attorney to the woman may make a difference. I'm no lawyer though and they'll know how to handle th…
/r/MensRights14/11/13 12:27 PM
3

To be honest old people sometimes hold some really random beliefs. More often then not they'll be open minded about a person they meet (who is of the class they talk badly about) then talk about what a nice or great person such and such is not like those other ______ people. A lot of it is mere provincialism. About the only things I've had to consistently school people at work about are leftist ideas and lgbt stuff since there's still a lot of bigotry (though some of it is skin deep) even in one…
/r/MensRights14/11/13 12:18 PM
4

The studies date back to the 70's and look at multiple groups in multiple nations. Because HIV was a thing in the 1970s. There are no conclusive links and even if there were some it still wouldn't be an acceptable practice.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 11:37 AM
2

Absofuckinglutely.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 11:34 AM
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Or to show the slightest amount of empathy or concern for boys and men.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 11:33 AM
4

Misandry don't real.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 11:31 AM
3

The cheating is irrelevant. We don't know the story nor what he told these women. Either domestic (and other types of) violence are unacceptable for any reason - or they are not. Dollars to donuts these women were never charged.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 11:28 AM
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MGM folks have a point only because FGM has all the coverage and mindshare. FGM people are just bigots. Certainly if they're saying "it's a bigger problem". Seriously if you care more about people half a world away from you than people living right next to you there's a problem - and the problem is you. Anyone that's had a child and isn't a piece of shit wants the best for their child. Mutilating them for any reason is unacceptable - and that's what needs to be put across in the culture.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 11:25 AM
1

If it's humiliating you shouldn't have allowed the pictures to be taken. He didn't give them her physical address - at least not from what the article says. Oh noes she got a handful of "harassing" emails! That's nothing and shows just how feminized our political system is. I could see if this was a civil matter. Hell, I might even agree with her position depending on how the law is written, but I wholeheartedly disagree with anything that allows someone to act as though they can put the genie b…
/r/MensRights14/11/13 11:20 AM
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Presumed female harm>actual male harm. You guys are happy to put a guy to the fire because oh boo hoo he did something mean to the poor woman. Are you motherfuckers lifeboat feminists or MHRAs? It looks pretty clear from here which one you guys look like. At best this should be a civil suit. At best. You have spent more time handwringing over this bullshit than being concerned with real issues. Here's a clue: this is not one of them.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 11:14 AM
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That's their bias talking, their marriage to the conceit of male disposability. MGMers get annoyed I assume because the only-cares-about-FGM team already has the lion's share of the media. Just like with every other feminist issue.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 09:01 AM
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I've only ever seen feminists make this argument. Of course they don't give two shits about boys. Nor do they give a shit about those intersexed people whose lives have been completely messed up. Anyone not concerned with both is vermin.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:55 AM
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DV when done by women = hilarious.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:51 AM
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Sane people merely reply "both should be banned". No child should ever have medically unnecessary surgery done to them under any circumstance.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:48 AM
4

AVFMS does consistently great work. Love this piece.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:46 AM
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Wow, now this is a good post. I can't believe it got by on Alternet. It will either be completely ignored by commenters or brigaded by feminists. Furthermore, the tendency for organizations and anti-trafficking groups to inflate trafficking statistics and focus disproportionate attention on “pimped girls” has meant that young boys, transgendered youth and those children of any gender who aren’t enslaved by the traditional “pimp” or subject to labor trafficking miss out. Ronald Weitzer, Professor…
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:44 AM
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"If there are no complications". Yeah both involve a loss of sexual pleasure. Anyone calling it "much, much worse" has an axe to grind. It is an affront to decent people everywhere that anyone would consider genital mutilation acceptable on any grounds. The numbers of people hurt regardless of how they're sexed or intersexed is far too great. Gendering this issue is disgusting and is exactly what I expect from feminists. Because only if you're a woman does your life, body, experience, problems c…
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:35 AM
3

You would literally never see this happen if the beneficiaries were men. The outcry would be deafening.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:25 AM
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Except when the kid gets his whole dick cut off which still happens way too frequently. So no, it's not much much worse. Back to your cave troll.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:22 AM
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No, we should not be having separate discussions at all. It is derailing by forcing us to have two separate movements when only one is necessary.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:18 AM
5

Because clearly MGM is a non-issue. And they say we have no problems worth addressing.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:17 AM
2

That and the fact that we a) aren't all under the same umbrella or b) call ourselves MRAists or whatever and c) pretend we're something we're not.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:15 AM
1

Felony is way out of line on this kind of thing. At best this should be cause for a civil, not criminal, suit. Own your shit.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:10 AM
0

It's the same personal info as on all the revenge porn sites. This is hardly something new. E2A: generally state and city. No address.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:08 AM
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It's ok to seek an exemption from fairness in hiring laws when it's for hiring women. Some lovely stereotyping and women are wonderful-isms in there too.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:06 AM
15

Thanks for this Sydney-Bliss.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:03 AM
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The fact that he's being held with no bond and the age of this case indicates to me that this guy is being targeted for some reason - likely political.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 07:58 AM
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Sure, it totally keeps AMR from voting - and all their SRS pals. Suuuuuuuuuuure it does.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 07:10 AM
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I don't know how people come to be adults thinking that everyone is trustworthy, let alone who they date. It's beyond me. Regardless you participate in something that compromises you - that's on you. Hope for the best, plan for the worst is always the best course of action. Telling women the nanny state will help them out when they do something dumb is sending the wrong message and infantilizes women. I'm not calling you a feminist. I do, however, think there's some amount of in-group bias going…
/r/MensRights14/11/13 03:43 AM
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AMR not a brigade amirite?
/r/MensRights14/11/13 03:31 AM
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If you got fired you could sue over wrongful termination. Do you have citations that this is a problem? None of the pictures of me online that have my face on it were posted by me. That's the danger of social media and living in the digital age. I have had compromising pictures taken of me - and should they be distributed I'd have to own that. It's my fault that I let them be taken. Period. I own my shit and expect that all adults do so as well. I disagree with you that embarrassment is anything…
/r/MensRights14/11/13 03:29 AM
1

This is harassment: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1qj4ob/cornell_universitys_louise_silberling_sued_for/ Completely different from "hey I did something dumb that can be used against me and now I want the nanny state to make the bad person go away". First of all it feeds into a sex-negative view of things that should be changed. Secondly we all know our anonymity is compromised particularly in view of social media. Thirdly it is exactly this refusal of feminists to accept the outcom…
/r/MensRights14/11/13 03:21 AM
1

Exactly.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 03:17 AM
-4

Again, showing that in-group bias that women have towards each other. I have no doubt you don't think he shouldn't be punished. So for an essentially harmless thing he deserves a few months of prison? What do all the people driving rape hysteria deserve? Or domestic violence? Yet cruelty is a-ok as long as it's a woman behind it.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 03:06 AM
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I have no patience for people complaining about revenge porn. You don't want it used against you - don't do it. Plain and simple. Of course they're going to circlejerk on it - they see it as exclusively a woman's problem and even if it happens to the occasional man then so what?
/r/MensRights14/11/13 01:19 AM
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As opposed to someone that invades someone else's sub and does nothing else. Activism amirite?
/r/MensRights14/11/13 01:09 AM
1

I'm having a hard time getting anything useful on a search for this. I suspect the only way to get to the bottom of this is finding the case and verdict. I'm not sure I care enough about this woman's case to contact that horrific agency to get the particulars. My view is that the abuse angle is no excuse.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 12:11 AM
1

Abuse is almost always a non-starter in cases with a male defendant. The abuse argument needs to go.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 12:04 AM
1

Yet it is a critical part of feminist thinking to change what society (or if you prefer - the masses) thinks. They have succeeded spectacularly. The reason I and others have come down on you hard is because we get a rash of these "not mensrights" comments and this is an argument that barring having nothing to do with men's rights is nothing more than censorship and an attempt to silence discourse. Something this team (as opposed to feminists) is wholeheartedly against.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 11:24 PM
2

It's an old saying dating back to WW2 and was a huge hit for Kay Kyser in song form. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praise_the_Lord_and_Pass_the_Ammunition I was using it allegorically in this case as in praising what John wrote and wishing for him to continue doing what he's doing - i.e. making ammunition for the MHRA cause.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 11:17 PM
4

So, all feminists are like you then. Portraying feminists as either logical or moral to my mind makes you the straw feminist.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 11:09 PM
2

In three dates? There is literally nothing you could do short of flaying some part of this woman to deserve such a campaign of vitriol. She should be facing jail time.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 10:57 PM
4

Don't you know that women never make false allegations and that all their anger is always righteous?
/r/MensRights13/11/13 10:55 PM
3

You're wrong - it takes both. You have to shame these motherfuckers with whatever sense of decency they have left to get them to see.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 12:33 PM
1

And as usual the women side with the mother in the comments. Not a surprise.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 12:29 PM
3

Simple: Ask them if they feel homelessness is a problem. Ask them if they think that everyone should have equal access to education. Ask them if some students should be referred to doctors for medication due to their sex. Ask them if they think it's right that 4x the number of one sex the other commits suicide and yet there are no programs for them. Then tighten the noose.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 12:06 PM
1

I haven't had time to do more than drive-by commenting - which this is. In my state as soon as you started paying you are on the hook. DNA be damned. If you are on the hook you might as well make the best of it - help find the real father and be invested in the kid's life and turn it into a book deal.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 12:00 PM
1

I don't have time to delve deep into this now but here's a copy of the statute: http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(30e524fiekm0e5m2eku5og55))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=mcl-750-316
/r/MensRights12/11/13 11:15 PM
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It's your choice to interpret it as positive. That's not a universal position. Regardless even if it is positive it's still worthy of discussion because it impacts and targets fathers which are a group that MHRAs are concerned about and for. There was a mollycoddling thread about how some woman at HuffPo and GMP was telling men they were already good enough - and that got posted once per site and commented upon. Rightly, in my estimation. If mothers were targeted in the same way I imagine there'…
/r/MensRights12/11/13 10:34 AM
3

Same couple from the other day. This is the woman that threw a DV accusation at him. tl;dr version: NJ has no common law marriage law, palimony requires a written statement of intent to provide forever (but is being challenged). She has a long shot chance at winning something.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 10:18 AM
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Because fathers are men? Many if not most of the issues of the MHRA surround fatherhood. Those are why it's a men's rights issue. That's what I said the first time to you. There are no commercials telling women to be better moms or to be more involved. The implication being that unless someone shames you into parenting you won't do it due to your sex. If your argument is that this isn't a negative that's fine but regardless of what your position is this ad campaign right, wrong or indifferent is…
/r/MensRights12/11/13 10:10 AM
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It's a men's rights issue. If you want to try to convince anyone that it isn't you're doing a terrible job of it. If you think nothing is a men's rights issue then you don't belong in this sub.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:58 AM
3

It's been taken down. Alternate links?
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:52 AM
4

Because fathers are men? Many if not most of the issues of the MHRA surround fatherhood. Did you take a nap on your brain?
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:32 AM
3

Wild Bill seems to be a tradcon but at least his heart is in the right place here. Other than invoking a deity I have no problems with this video. We do need a push for male teachers across the board. Oh and do yourself a favor - don't watch his Death Camp Liberals video.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:25 AM
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You participate you are equally guilty in most jurisdictions. The only time that's supposed to be untrue is if you turn state's evidence. Let her rot.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:19 AM
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But should get a free pass because of their genitalia. Which is why feminism thinks men are like that and have been all through historical times because they'd never let a thing like honor get in the way of taking care of our sisters.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:17 AM
4

Clearly not misandry.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:16 AM
0

I don't think handing out strap ons to pre-teens is a great idea.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:14 AM
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Never understimate the power of middle class white girl tears. Also see feminism.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:13 AM
1

I disagree. Your point would only be valid if he had no need for prescription drugs or healthcare. Which is fine if you're under 25 and in good health.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 03:37 AM
1

I don't know your state. In mine that would be illegal and the judge could force her to provide it for you or the financial equivalent (which would still screw you). I don't think my (ex)wife intended to cancel it Nearly everything done in divorce is done with malice. You need to stop thinking as if you're pals or about your shared history. It's a waste of time. From here until the MSA is settled at the very least you are combatants. You need to get before the judge asap. It sounds like it behoo…
/r/MensRights12/11/13 03:35 AM
0

Praise the lord and pass the ammunition. Thanks John.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 03:14 AM
-1

Thanks heavens someone finally said this.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 03:12 AM
0

Or at least stop linking directly to it.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 03:11 AM
2

Thanks for the pmaternalism HuffPo. Kisses!
/r/MensRights12/11/13 03:10 AM
2

MacKinnon sets out three paragraphs of Judge Easterbrook’s opinion to show how inaccurate my report is, and adds that her quotation is “unedited.” In fact, however, she omitted a crucial footnote, which he attached to the third sentence of the third paragraph she cites, qualifying particularly his remarks about the effect of pornography on sexual violence. Though she mentions the footnote later in her letter, she gives no sense of what it actually contains. Feminists once again showing that obfu…
/r/MensRights12/11/13 03:05 AM
1

it's easy to give bandwagon support for change when that change benefits you personally And you have no ethics or belief in right and wrong.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 02:58 AM
1

Not cool. Would never fly if genders were reversed.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 02:56 AM
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This is the kind of thing that needs to be reblogged on facebook and told everywhere. Genital mutilation needs to end.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 02:52 AM
1

No one has taken birth control or abortion off the table. People that are responsible will more than likely avoid having children as the default changes from woman having kid and father paying to woman not having kid. I'm not seeing a glut of babies up for adoption but as I mentioned if you want to explain why I'm happy to listen. Certainly those against abortion who are also unable to raise a child financially by themselves will be more likely to - but nothing is keeping men from choosing to su…
/r/MensRights12/11/13 02:16 AM
2

I see no through line that gets you from the so-called financial abortion to a glut of children up for adoption. How do you get there? Do you have an alternative? We ban adoptions?
/r/MensRights12/11/13 12:05 AM
1

The sublimation of it - yes.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 04:54 AM
0

Lies, manipulation and obfuscation the most important tools in any feminist's tool belt.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 04:45 AM
1

I saw one place where they actually LABELED their comment as feminist position. Less bad. Surprising and hopeful that. Agree about the MRA position.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 03:06 AM
3

For the gaps you've mentioned, I believe they aren't gender-based (at least for most countries). So since it's not a problem everywhere it's a non-problem? Gotcha. Looking forward to some stats for you to provide to bolster your case. What you've said about feminist texts are frighteningly true though. I had to take out what was harmful from what was not. But then again, it's the feminist, not the movement. We will continue to disagree. It is a movement designed to improve the lot of women - to …
/r/MensRights11/11/13 02:44 AM
2

Of course, let's obfuscate the fact that this is an entirely common activity women do when there is money involved - see divorce courts nationwide. Please spare us. Don't you have some false rape allegations to make Ms. False Equivalency?
/r/MensRights11/11/13 02:28 AM
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I've read enough feminist texts and been more than a little aware of the many misandrists in the movement since the second wave. There are no lofty goals, no real attempt at equality. Not unless for every feminist you pick you throw out half of what she says. The movement itself is toxic, and a belief system and deserves all its bad press. It has worked ever so hard to earn it. Feminism aims to find the nature of gender inequality, the societal constructs and perceptions fueling it, the presence…
/r/MensRights11/11/13 02:22 AM
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Exactly. I've seen women win and make the same arguments with feminists doing the usual you go grrl.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 02:02 AM
1

Most states don't have common law marriage. Some have palimony laws - others don't.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 02:01 AM
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In a state that doesn't allow common law marriage there's still some fungibility there.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 01:59 AM
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Palimony law in New Jersey requires a signed statement of intent: http://www.martindale.com/family-law/article_Brad-M-Micklin-Esq-Counsellor-at-Law-LLC_1900726.htm There is however, apparently a case where this has been found not to be true and other cases challenging the statute. Behind a paywall:http://www.law.com/jsp/nj/PubArticleNJ.jsp?id=1202619895405&slreturn=20130820122957 Which I found from here (in all its web 1.0 glory):http://njdivorceblog.typepad.com/new_jersey_divorce_law_me/palimon…
/r/MensRights11/11/13 01:57 AM
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Does a decent movement claim that patriarchy - and by extension all men - are guilty of all the world's ills? Does a decent movement insist that female on male rape doesn't exist? Does a decent movement insist that domestic violence is a gendered act? Does a decent movement insist upon statutes that benefit women in divorce consistently at the expense of men? Does a decent movement insist on punitive child support laws while claiming that a woman's right to choose should trump any and all concer…
/r/MensRights11/11/13 01:51 AM
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I did some reading and since this is in New Jersey they do have a palimony statute. However, there are several cases that look to be testing it now so she has a long shot chance at winning. NJ has no statutes certifying common law so she has no chance there.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 01:43 AM
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I'm not sure how this isn't covered by my comment here: Regardless of the League of Nations France intended to drive Germany into bankruptcy and Britain had no qualms about that. If you've got some evidence to show that U.S. involvement actually made it worse then I'm all ears. I love to read about this kind of thing though I remain somewhat skeptical. The only thing that seems to support your argument is the distribution of the 14 points as propaganda which the French had no intention of implem…
/r/MensRights11/11/13 01:37 AM
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Exactly.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 12:46 AM
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If we're going to be about equality, if the other team continues to maintain the fiction that they're about equality then yes - it must be both or neither with no half measures. Otherwise they must proclaim themselves to be the supremicists they actually are. A couple cannot get an abortion - that's ridiculous. She can have an abortion whether she takes his needs or desires into account at all. Now you're just being silly - there's no way to litigate against bareback sex.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 12:45 AM
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In a state like California she might have had a chance under palimony statutes (and of course the judges here love to hate men) but she gave it her best shot to get a payday. Really she should be the poster child for independent strong womyn doing it for themselves. You go grrl!
/r/MensRights10/11/13 11:34 AM
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I have every reason to believe given that person's post history that you're arguing with an SRSers alternate account. False equivalencies are the name of their/his/her/ game.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 11:28 AM
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Yeah that risk and discomfort of being imprisoned and possibly raped while incarcerated for child support payments you can't afford for a child you never wanted is indeed vanishingly small and minimal. Of course.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 11:20 AM
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However, if men have no autonomy then women shouldn't either. We have to join these issues at the hip.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 11:14 AM
2

You realize that attitude wouldn't fly with the other team don't you?
/r/MensRights10/11/13 11:13 AM
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It is exactly supporting anothers life style choice. If you want the kid - you pay for it in its entirety or give it up for adoption. Period.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 11:12 AM
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I cannot consider them feminists though.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 11:10 AM
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The world is in no imminent danger of having not enough babies. Quite the opposite in fact. We should be doing our best to lower population growth.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 11:07 AM
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What feminists have wanted all along. And every time some white (upper) middle class pampered feminist states about horrible things going on in other parts of the world this should be brought up.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 10:54 AM
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As everyone else mentioned you need a lawyer. You said you're disabled - there usually are disabled advocacy groups that can help and possibly help fund your cause. Also contact your provincial representatives and mention everything you have here with an emphasis on the fact you are disabled and need assistance. Pay her nothing. Here in the U.S., at least in some states, that means you've made an agreement and are voluntarily making support payments which the court will then convert into mandato…
/r/MensRights10/11/13 10:52 AM
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Perhaps you're unfamiliar with the term mission creep. When the "personal is political" then any so-called correction you make can be considered feminist.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 10:16 AM
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The difference is that one doesn't pretend to be about equality of both sexes with actively working against the other.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 10:05 AM
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You mean the fictitious wage issue. He's hoping no one will pay attention to his continuous expansion of the NSA and spying at home - and of course feminists are easily led.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 10:03 AM
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I've heard that dinner ladies vs. garbage collectors rubbish on RPS. Of course we're going to deliberately ignore on the job deaths and injuries or HIV infections from being pricked with needles because those poor women work over a hot stove.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 10:02 AM
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Even if they weren't it would do our cause an infinite amount of good to see the name of feminism go down in flames due to its hateful rhetoric and decidedly anti-male legislation.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 09:59 AM
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I see more commonalities with extreme anti-democratic regimes than I do with anything else. It's like you're arguing "but there are some good Klansmen". It's still a hate movement built on lies obfuscation and manipulation in order to discriminate against and disenfranchise others.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 09:58 AM
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Which is why he so richly deserves it.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 09:46 AM
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Berlatsky is a fucking idiot. He regularly gets schooled on all his music posts and called Janice Joplin (his misspelling not mine) and the teenage twerkster racists. He's a guy that is mercilessly mocked on nearly all his posts on the Atlantic by anyone with a brain.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 09:43 AM
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It dates back far further than that - just off the top of my head there's the Spanish American War.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 09:37 AM
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I have to disagree. The Ottoman Empire and the Austro-Hungarian empire were both holding on for dear life and short of Germany propping them up were doomed. I've seen it argued that the Germans would have lost regardless due in part of having to hold up both of their partners and that even without the U.S. who came in quite late in the war that the outcomes would have been the same. Regardless of the League of Nations France intended to drive Germany into bankruptcy and Britain had no qualms abo…
/r/MensRights10/11/13 09:35 AM
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Bill Ayers is not running the country is he? Obama's not even Jimmy Carter let alone FDR. As much as I'd love to see the Koch brothers thrown in jail for sedition you have literally no grounds on which to talk.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 09:28 AM
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Which completely explains why the left is fed up with Obama and the whole Occupy movement. Maybe you should get your news from someone other than Rush Limbaugh. As to your asinine comments about "statists" anarchy is fundamentally unworkable and literally everything you complain about and more would be infinitely worse. Anarchy is a fun idea when you're a teenager with zero clue about how the world works. It's idiotic past that. Even in the few cases where anarchy has worked it has been in tiny …
/r/MensRights10/11/13 09:26 AM
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This is unmitigated horseshit. As far back as Reagan the government has cut back on military benefits and services. In fact the conservative team is worse because they more often commit troops (at least until this potus) and concurrently cut benefits and deny medical conditions as a result of those conflicts.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 09:21 AM
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Agreed. In fact I'd argue this requires a lawyer because otherwise she'll get off scot-free.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 09:13 AM
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Unless he had pom-poms and was cheering on an actual rape you're full of it.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 09:11 AM
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Exactly. The only questions worth asking is "how does this affect people in the real world and how isn't your ideology harmful to men and boys as well as transfolk".
/r/MensRights10/11/13 09:09 AM
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Of course - if you can't shake a man down one way - you shake him down another. Good on Quezada. Moral of this story: never marry.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 09:01 AM
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Your reading comprehension of the article is piss poor.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 08:56 AM
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Which explains why there are so many misandry-tinged articles and blatant anti-male bias with 300 of them in addition to the pre-existing brigade of feminists policing wikipedia. Which means that they can never be used as a credible service.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 08:54 AM
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Then dollars to donuts he'll be the next to be ousted from there. And seeing as he last posted over a year ago I doubt very much he'll be heard from again like all the other pro-male commenters that aren't feminists first.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 04:26 AM
1

Quite.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 04:23 PM
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I vote both. Also I thought both the woman at the top and all in white were hot but I'd be most likely to try to get the latter's number.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 09:23 AM
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Great news.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 09:13 AM
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Plenty of manginas I suspect.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 09:11 AM
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One example doesn't counter the numerous counter-examples of men being beaten often to death. I realize you said it wasn't the same but it's an entirely false equivalency.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 09:04 AM
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This article is, in fact, naming the accused and feeding the fire - not the opposite.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 09:03 AM
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Nearly every one I've found was women running over men. I'd like to see some stats on how often this happens because this could be a great talking point. The best exception being where one pregnant woman attempted to run over the other pregnant woman both by the same man. http://www.khou.com/news/local/Pregnant-woman-struck-by-car-allegedly-by-boyfriends-ex-girlfriend-200451251.html I presume the man involved would be considered alpha as fuck by TRP.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 08:55 AM
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What the fuck is up with women and McDonald's lately?
/r/MensRights09/11/13 08:49 AM
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I still have to wonder if you read the same article I did. GMP has no interest in serving men in actuality. It's just a propaganda tool to show there's some room in feminism for men. Somewhere. In the back of the plantation. Her article is slight. How anyone can see so much in so little is beyond me. Those broken, single parent families are largely as a net result of feminism and feminist policies. Men are absent sans what can be extracted from their wallets. The lack of male teachers is due not…
/r/MensRights09/11/13 08:15 AM
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I now have about a million tabs open tbh. Those are good points. It seems like we need more public awareness. Perhaps, for example, a series of ads where people (primarily men) are shown saying "I had an abusive mother" or some such. Which would not only underscore the fact that most child abuse is by women - and that much if not most of the abuse is received by boys. Tangential: I've been arguing for some time that if we don't start having a tighter rein on things we will lose this sub to the A…
/r/MensRights09/11/13 08:06 AM
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Gee, no kidding. Thanks for the validation Mom. As if the title of the site wasn't already pmatronizing enough.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 07:42 AM
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Catching up on old mr posts but I did want to jump in here. To me, men caring about other men is essential to the the men's movement. I agree but how can we make this happen? There is no support for males anywhere and certainly from no one in the entertainment industry.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 07:25 AM
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A site that cares more about its lesbian readers than in the men it purportedly serves has no business having men in the title. Boys need masculine role models and father figures. You could argue that butch women could conceivably be those figures but she's merely saying that a single mom cannot act as both which is fully correct. I've read her article numerous times and I fail to see anything bigoted in it at all. If you want to point something out specifically go ahead.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 07:23 AM
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Except they don't and even if they did we'd never hear about it. We do hear about women's issues ad infinitum.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 07:02 AM
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It's the Good Men Project - not the good lesbian project. The only reason that site exists is to curry favor with the stupid men that would be allies with feminists not to actually help men.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 06:57 AM
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No, he just needs a divorce with "generous" visitation rights. i.e. two weekends a month max.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 06:49 AM
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Don't link to that site directly please.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 06:46 AM
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Snow is rad - and I envy them their healthcare as well.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 03:55 AM
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I realize that. I'm not attacking anyone I'm just unsure of how much effect any of those comments will have. I'm not saying it's bad. Hell, at HuffPo or the Guardian they'll generally wipe out your comments if you make anything supporting fathers or is anti-feminist.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 03:54 AM
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my view is based on the religion Does not contradict this: your argument is that someone's beliefs make them ineligible as a parent is wrong-headed in the extreme. If someone believes either sex is superior they're idiots.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 03:51 AM
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I see that as one of the dictionary definitions. One of the others would cover MHRAs. Most of the female superiority things I've seen were bdsm-related. I can't say I've spent enough time looking at Manhood Academy bs to understand their pov but I don't really care either. Thanks for the clarification.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 03:45 AM
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I was just teasing you about the "eh?" thing. BTdubs nice work on doing your best to fight the good fight in the other subs.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 03:42 AM
0

Because those trigger warnings were always for war veterans amirite? Oh, wait...
/r/MensRights08/11/13 01:30 PM
1

It's not hypocrisy when it's a fact. NAFALT all you like but no one gives Cathy Young or Christina Hoff-Sommers more than the time of day and the occasional article. They may describe themselves as feminists but no one else does.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 01:29 PM
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No, it's the constant anti-male propaganda in the media that does that. Feminists are all liars. When you spin statistics, manipulate facts and claim that an entire sex is to blame for literally everything wrong in the world you're far worse than a mere liar.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 01:27 PM
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Since they are men no one will care.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 01:15 PM
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when did the masculinists become the male version of radfems. Never is when. Also masculists != MHRAs. It doesn't matter what you believe or what your religion is unless you are harming your child you have a right to see them - period. I'm no fan of Tom Cruise but your argument is that someone's beliefs make them ineligible as a parent is wrong-headed in the extreme.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 01:12 PM
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Of course. We can't go around asking women to do their fair share as that would literally be enslavement and rape.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 01:00 PM
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This is something a potential abusive girlfriend would love to know. Someone shooting at me is going down. I'm not going to look at their clothes to see what sex it is. A target is a target until it stops shooting.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 12:59 PM
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Eh, sort of? it's not like anything will get people to care about men's issues without constantly rubbing their faces in it - and frankly I'm on team Dad until shown otherwise for exactly the same reason. I take it you're canadian? ;)
/r/MensRights08/11/13 12:54 PM
1

Solipsism is a real thing. So is an infinite amount of selfishness. These are the two biggest ingredients of feminism and feminist thought.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 12:42 PM
1

Ha, well there is that.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 12:26 PM
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No, a consistent usage against mothers to the same degree as it happens to fathers would make it not a men's rights issue.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 12:25 PM
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Even if you had knowledge of the UK statutes and outcomes I have a hard time believing you'd ask these questions. Men have been pushing for fathers' rights over there for at least a decade. They are ridiculed by sane people - yes. However, their march on institutions has been quite successful since the 1960s and '70s let alone before that. Google (or your favorite search engine) the Tender Years Doctrine - pushed by feminists. I have yet to hear of a Family Court Services counselor that has eith…
/r/MensRights08/11/13 12:24 PM
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I'm confused. Skinny jeans don't have fewer pockets than baggy pants. Are you referring to parachute or cargo pants? I agree the other points though I think the last could be more inclusive. We don't know for sure the kid is gay (not that it should matter regardless). Freedom of expression often seems to have limitations when it comes to men however. An example at my former job - they refused to allow us to wear shorts but women could wear skirts regardless.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 04:07 AM
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Proving that there is literally nowhere where you can be pro-male in any feminist sub.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 04:02 AM
1

Yeah I like the purse too.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 03:21 AM
2

A moany middle aged blonde?
/r/MensRights08/11/13 03:17 AM
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My son identifies as genderqueer and getting some assists from the local lgbt movement?
/r/MensRights08/11/13 03:15 AM
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Then show your work - why do you think that? Can you show any example of this happening to a mother in the US or UK?
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:48 AM
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The point is that the system isn't being gamed by the mother - the point is that the system is already so slanted against fathers that even without the mother playing games you, as a father, are constantly under suspicion from an army of feminist-trained counselors and a system that is all too happy to see you as the bad guy or as a less deserving parent. Either you're exactly the troll you're being called out for or your knowledge about divorce is nil.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:46 AM
1

It was a good day for mom, and any good day for mom is a good day.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:41 AM
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Dupe: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1q4r27/dad_unfit_parent_for_refusing_son_mcdonalds/
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:40 AM
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Yes that sole possession to father goes up to a staggering 11 percent. Woo. Women also frequently have access to free representation that fathers never have.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:31 AM
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Why would they? What would be the benefit in it for them? I can't understand why you'd presume a movement that has no problem manipulating statistics cares anything about the truth (or for that matter claims to be about equality and fights vehemently against it).
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:27 AM
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Women are vastly more self-serving and self-interested than men and then you add the women are wonderful effect. Men and women tend to view women more positively and as a result we have an evil movement aimed at disenfranchising others and their experiences. They're married to the victim complex because it gives them power.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:15 AM
1

If you read the article her plea of guilty means that he doesn't have to testify.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:07 AM
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"Oh jesus I just saw my parents having sex and that is something terrible that I never want to see or be a part of ever." Might buy parents some piece of mind for a couple years anyway.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:06 AM
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Women growing a spine would defeat the entirety of feminism and feminist theology ideology.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 02:04 AM
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It is completely inaccurate. Women work less hours on the job and do less physically demanding work across the board. Any work you are not paid for is not work. Period.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 01:55 AM
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They should but it will never happen. The best we can hope for is legal parental surrender. Which isn't to say we shouldn't push for this as part of the overall message that men need reproductive rights.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 12:00 AM
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I've always been skeptical of feminism's ideologues. Having been all too aware of them at a young age due to having a mother who blamed all her misery upon men while taking no personal responsibility for her life I was aware of Steinem and Friedan when I was still in the single digits. I supported Title IX because it was generally fair and there needed to be a slight tipping of scales. I don't think anyone could read second wave texts and not see that many if not most of them would find this sta…
/r/MensRights07/11/13 10:45 PM
2

In the absence of an order allowing her to move away with the kids it is still an illegal act.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 10:41 PM
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I hope your state allows children to talk to the judge. If Family court services hears this it will likely be a crap shoot whether they actually care about the children's welfare (put them with you) or simply note "prefers to be with the mother" and makes a recommendation that way. Something to keep in mind should it end up going that route. I hope your middle child is a bit more level-headed - and preferably articulate. That could help immensely.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 01:17 PM
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All of those concerns are best dealt with by a family law attorney. DV agencies won't typically help people unless there's a DV claim (and aren't male-friendly by and large either). Generally you get someone out by filing for divorce with temporary exclusive use of the home (or its equivalency in your state). You cannot afford to go cheap with your divorce.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 01:03 PM
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Excellent points.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 12:55 PM
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Happens to men all the time - non-issue. Happens to a woman - national fucking crisis.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 09:34 AM
1

Thanks Pierce.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 09:28 AM
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It really isn't, unless you have a disorder or mental illness of some kind Cite? I'm a woman and I read cues from other women and men every damn day. Guess what - women are not only trained from a younger age to do so - they are more naturally attuned to it as well. This is blaming someone for being a different sex than you plain and simple. So pretending that you can't tell someone directly and to their face your communication is total faux-naive bullshit. It goes both ways. This creep shaming …
/r/MensRights07/11/13 09:27 AM
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Demand the D.A.'s office file charges of kidnapping. Take out ad space in your local paper with your story complete with photos. Demand your local politicians do something about this injustice. You are allowed to serve by publication in the majority of states. Do so. Have you gotten an attorney yet? Remember that you've got to dot every I and cross every T due to your sex.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 09:17 AM
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There are things about your post history that raise red flags for me. Furthermore you indicate nowhere what domestic violence took place. I can't tell if you're actually looking for assistance of some kind or if you're looking for some sort of personal vindication. If you were having the problems you seem to be claiming to have you should have gotten a TRO and had her barred from the house and changed the locks. Prior to all that you should have contacted a lawyer in order to figure out what kin…
/r/MensRights07/11/13 09:10 AM
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I wish you the best of luck. I hope your state actually takes the wishes of the children into account although that's often not until they hit puberty. I wish I could be more help.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 08:51 AM
2

Amanda Marcotte has never, and will never, apologize for claiming after the fact that the Duke students were rapists regardless. Every time she has an article this should be pointed out. Every time. Further she should be called upon to explain why she enabled a murderer.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 08:39 AM
1

Because there are no extremists, and as much as they supposedly hate TERFs (you know that totally invisible minority) they love radfems for saying everything they wish they could say.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 08:07 AM
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How many feminists come into this sub spewing that feminism isn't like this?
/r/MensRights07/11/13 08:05 AM
2

Can we stop giving them pagehits yet? Feminism - still not a hate movement. Sure.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 08:04 AM
1

"incredible obvious social cues" That no one has ever misunderstood ever. This is, in essence, a read my mind level of interaction.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 02:00 AM
1

If your children didn't sleep through the night you failed to allow them to cry themselves to sleep or they had serious physical ailments. They have to learn. The youngest had asthma and we'd have to get up periodically but it was never 5 years without sleep. Similarly 3 years breastfeeding is excessive.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 01:36 AM
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My concern is in part the possibility of it masking something else. I've had back pain for about 20 years that I've learned to live with - but I've seen a number of doctors in the meantime and know/knew my treatment options. Two things - it won't hurt the baby should you get pregnant and not dealing with it if it's this long term is likely to be worse for you. Which isn't to say there aren't things like phantom pain or muscle memory of pain which are onset by stress but this sounds like more tha…
/r/MensRights07/11/13 12:20 AM
0

You mean all the "sane" this isn't men's rightsers? There is literally nothing in this sub that reaches the towering amount of hate or hypocrisy in the feminist subs.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 11:57 PM
1

Yeah and if you had more than mere belief it should be granted. Not that this isn't one tremendous strawman and still incredibly unlikely to occur. Me: there should be some accountability and checks and balances where there are none currently. You: No! Any changes would literally spell doom for mankind law enforcement in every way! Most normal people consider LEOs heavy-handed less than empathetic people with small dick disease. The reason for this is entirely based on lived experiences. Go up t…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 11:52 PM
1

Holy crap. Have you seen any kind of specialist since then?
/r/MensRights06/11/13 11:46 PM
1

We clearly disagree. It is not objectively more than hyperbole for effect. I see nothing revolting in what was written. Women get moist - so what? It illustrates a point. Either you don't like the argument or you don't like how it was structured. What I'm hearing is that you liked neither and prefer to attack it on tone rather than content. Your complaints come across as more prudish than anything else. I'm also bummed that throwawaydalek deleted his/her account or was banned somehow. Some reall…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 01:34 PM
1

I don't know how long ago since it broke we're talking about but it sounds like maybe you should see an orthopedist. I know that generally they say there's nothing they can do and that it just has to heal but if it's been a significant amount of time and you're still in pain that's a problem that should be addressed. A physiatrist might be helpful depending on what the x-rays find but my first reaction would be to go see an orthopedic surgeon and get his/her opinion. Eh considering all the other…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 12:41 PM
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Actually broken tailbone is super common and rarely has any negative side effects other than pain. Same ex I mentioned had managed to break her tailbone multiple times when I was with her. It had no effect on anything. Also that's more of a physiatrist or ortho thing so that's not her specialty. Not that I'm excusing her less than stellar bedside manner. I used to know a lot of weird women back then. I love horror movies but real shit squicks me.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 12:26 PM
1

Wait, wait - not childbearing age? I'm struggling with why she thought this was ok. If it's pre-child bearing age it's horrible in one way and another if it's post. Then I'm reminded of the fact that one of my exes was a nurse and that half her work friends were on rotten.com showing each other shit. I couldn't hang. I guess there is a wide range of what counts as propriety amongst people. Anyway sorry this happened. Just - yeesh.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 12:13 PM
1

Describing things in an over the top tone in order to push your views into someone's face is a time-honored tradition. It doesn't make the writer anything more than hyperbolic which in this case is done for effect. Basically what you're saying is that you didn't like the tone. Frankly I saw it as the perfect opposite number version of what you see every day in SRS or AMR and upvoted it. My guess is that either it got brigaded (likely) or someone got upset about that someone's feels got threatene…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 12:00 PM
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Don't you know TERFs aren't really feminists? It kills me how feminists never own the cuddling up to the conservative values crowd of both sex-negative and radfem crowds. NAFALT! I'd rather they say "that's not my feminism" because then you can nail them down to exactly what theirs is so it becomes assailable.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 11:43 AM
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Huh, I wonder who would do this? It couldn't be feminists.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 11:40 AM
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Can anyone tell me why this is a men's issue? I don't frequent this sub Either read the article and form an opinion or think on why it might be - or kindly stop derailing articles by making these kinds of comments. Do you think other subs tolerate this malarkey?
/r/MensRights06/11/13 11:31 AM
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But men pay more thanks to Obamacare. Misandry don't real. sigh.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 11:13 AM
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Wow, holy shit. That is off-putting. On the other hand she's probably just thinking about whatever complications she'll have to deal with if/when you give birth. Still, that's some bad ass bedside manner.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 11:13 AM
1

You're right - a more accurate feminist haunted house would have you separated from your kids for some bogus reason and go through a series of sham family court services meetings along with a court that cares literally nothing about you, while your opposite number has her lawyer paid for while you're doing all the litigation on your side yourself. Then you end up paying a shit ton of money to someone that doesn't spend it on the kids while she gets to game the system and not let you see the kids…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 11:09 AM
1

I used to go to a site which I believe was called InfoWar or something along those lines that was primarily run by people that had been cast out by PJ at groklaw or were incensed by her and the mods excessive pruning. When the mods were called upon to do something about the trolling they wanted so hard not to be like the mods at groklaw that they refused to do anything about it. As a result the site became irrelevant and to the best of my knowledge died. It's anecdotal of course but you don't re…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 09:58 AM
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Some people find crazy sexy, yes. Most of us live past our twenties with different expectations if we can help it.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 09:31 AM
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Not her first run-in. Her first reality tv appearance was as a perp in America's Most Wanted. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57593743-504083/anna-benson-update-ex-wife-of-former-mlb-player-kris-benson-once-implicated-in-1996-murder-report-says/
/r/MensRights06/11/13 09:29 AM
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The judge forced her to plead or else the deal wouldn't go through. I guess that's what this judge considers tough love. We are so far past tough love it isn't funny but this news bit should go up every time a woman says they don't have privilege in this culture. I hate to make you angrier but the minimum is 60 days not 90. Feminists show rage at minimal things that don't matter or aren't real. Men fight to survive marriage and divorce and the landmines set in their ways to see their children an…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 09:24 AM
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Female privilege is to never to be seen as a credible threat. Even those that murder their children tend to get off easier. However, I'm reasonably certain the judge only saw her as a threat to *him because a woman doing vile things to children is unthinkable (despite the fact that women are more often child abusers). But enough talking points. I presume the judge thinks that this will be "enough". Frankly this is an excellent argument for binding victim's rights legislation. If I were him I'd m…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 09:10 AM
1

I think a better question is - "Am I a bad person for being a feminist?" The answer to that is yes.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 08:47 AM
5

It depends entirely on the state's ed code and the culture of the district itself.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 08:33 AM
2

Administration refers to downtown as much as it does principals. Principals have little input on curriculum and tend to step on teacher's toes primarily about the amount of teaching to the test needs to be done or in cases where they don't like the teacher and there are disciplinary problems with the kids. The primary reason that women stay as teachers is because they like to teach and the interaction with the students (like most long term teachers). The districts I've worked have all been prima…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 08:31 AM
1

Irrelevant to the overall discussion.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 08:03 AM
1

It is but I'm also going to argue that it goes far past that. Look at Alisdair_'s post here and the voting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1pwee2/its_time_to_take_a_stand_against_shaming_of_what/ We regularly see AMR and SRS posters here voting and derailing. This needs to stop. There needs to be a rule that *commenting saying a piece isn't men's rights and is something not determined by the mods to be not men's rights will cause an instaban. Edited for awkward sentence structure, c…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 08:00 AM
1

If I had money to give I would have golded you repeatedly.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:49 AM
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Clearly a non-issue when your team says it amirite?
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:45 AM
5

Don't feed the troll.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:39 AM
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Facebook isn't for men. It's for ciswomen. Taking down this information would literally be rape.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:33 AM
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I agree, but Kris and the kids will still be at risk as a result. The fact that she got caught only means that next time she'll finish the job.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:30 AM
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Woman pass all the way. Disgusting. Edited to add: I'd love to see all the lying disingenuous people that tried to claim Marissa Alexander was an analog to the Zimmerman shooting claim this is an example of white privilege. Please, bring it on.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:29 AM
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Judges have little to no accountability in the real world. Short of voting them out of office they're in there for life. The judges above them consistently turn a blind eye to bad behavior. You sound like someone that has never dealt with the law first hand.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:20 AM
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Which is why I think that we go overboard to be too tolerant here. We shouldn't be SRS but some policing of bullshit should happen.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:12 AM
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The degree of uproar over this would be much greater and the public's desire to see justice done would be vastly higher. Cops are aware of this and it would be incredibly unlikely to happen to someone female.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:07 AM
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Although likely as a hostile witness.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:06 AM
1

I have no problem with this. As it is now there is no judicial accountability whatsoever (there are some minimal methods but it's such a close knit network they're going to circle the wagons anyway).
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:05 AM
1

An, as in one, but not multiple. When you get a warrant to search a home it isn't an open invitation to go in as many times as you like forever.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:02 AM
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The problem is that when one side claims that they couldn't possibly have any privilege ever and other straight (or straight appearing) white males as if even middle class white males had as many opportunities and programs for them that women have let alone an iota of the funding. Much of what has been gained in getting funding for trans causes is due to the fragile coalition that is glbtqi. Much of this is due to the fact that as a group of relatively small minorities this is essential for poli…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 05:43 AM
1

Because transwomen are never MHRAs or transactivists that don't see feminism (or feminists) as allies. You don't know me and before you accuse me personally of something - you need to. Unless, like most feminists online, can only argue for so long without becoming exasperated because someone disagrees with you about anything - resort to ad hominem attacks.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 05:23 AM
1

This surprises me not at all. It's ok to be bigoted against transwomen, not against transmen (generally).
/r/MensRights03/11/13 03:21 AM
1

That's like saying Christians and Muslims are the same thing because they're both Abrahamic religions. Only if both were clearly jew-hating religions that didn't actively hate each other. Men are still scum, women, still wonderful - one seeks to co-opt trans issues and the other seeks to hate transwomen. All forms of bigotry under one big tent of bullshit imo.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 02:48 AM
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I don't think you're getting my pov. I would actually like to see feminists as something more than a hate group looking to disenfranchise people - I just rarely see anything other than anecdotal evidence rather than policy to do so. Those are anecdotes. Sure, there are some feminists involved with transwomen. I've seen both however and I've seen zero evidence that the "alliance" is anything more than a co-option *and throughly skin deep. Just like there are some self-described feminists that thi…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 02:39 AM
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Marcotte is about as misandric as you can get and still be mainstream. Do you have a link to a site that is credible? I don't want to help RS get any more money after their consistent hit pieces against the Men's Human Rights Movement and their policy of censorship towards anyone considering those points of view as valid. Edited to add: I just don't see how in a movement made up of bigots there's any real reason to differentiate them on any grounds.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 02:24 AM
1

How aren't mainstream feminists bigots? Kindly show me all the pro-male mainstream feminists. Keep in mind Paglia, Hoff-Sommers and Cathy Young are not considered mainstream. Marcotte is. What most feminists will then do is state "well I don't agree with xyz and therefore they're not mainstream". No true scotsman indeed.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 02:14 AM
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I can't agree with you. Mainstream feminism has no interest in trans issues past trying to co-opt them in order to provide them a false sense of moral authority. "Oh yes, we're sisters, kumbaya!" "Want to go out on a date with me?" "Eww". Go to a lesbian bar - "What are you doing here? Why are you in the women's restroom?" These are far more common outcomes than anyone wants to admit (other than transwomen of course).
/r/MensRights03/11/13 02:01 AM
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Oh please. Feminists are at best interested in co-opting trans issues (or rather particularly transwomen's issues) and at worst loathe MTF/MAABs. Insisting that glbtqi people are one happy family as well is as disingenuous as you can get. If you want to cite "most feminists" then feel free to drown me in a link sea. Sex-negative feminists have been married to tradcons since forever. Whenever someone claims "most feminists" they always and without fail mean those people that think exactly like th…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 01:49 AM
1

I see you're doing the 5th Law of Robotics thing and using invisible sarcasm. I was biting quite hard admittedly. I'd give this troll 8/10
/r/MensRights02/11/13 04:48 AM
5

Maybe you came into the wrong subreddit.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 11:28 PM
0

Better off putting it on youtube. Women never own this type of behavior.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 11:27 PM
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If you want a balanced view you should ask this in changemyview where you will almost certainly come across some thoroughly reasoned discourse intense brigading, lies and calls for censorship from SRSsters.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 11:15 PM
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Using their own arguments we should literally never let them out of the house or allow them to vote since they're completely unable to be anything other than victims and puppets. Feminists never cease to make me sad.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 11:10 PM
5

Holy shit have you been on fire lately. This is a two-beer worthy comment.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 10:49 PM
1

Poe? Couldn't be bothered do get past the third post.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 10:47 PM
1

Oh, that - read about it on the Atlantic. It wasn't intimidation - men were more concerned their spouses would leave or cheat on them due to their success. Given that women will often ditch their lesser performing partners in a way that men won't and how sensitive to status women as a whole are that's not at all an unreasonable reaction. Women, after all, are always looking for potential mates even when it's completely subconscious - and in particular when they move up to a new and higher strata…
/r/MensRights01/11/13 08:29 PM
1

This is a loathsome apologia for feminists. Ask someone like Robert Estephe to write it. Or consign the entire idea to oblivion. Every single era has had its coterie of misandrists as well as righteous equality seekers. The problem is that the latter have been squelched and yet held up as the mascot for each wave.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 03:51 AM
1

That raises an interesting question: what does past promiscuity mean in a partnered relationship? While I typically see more women advocating for exclusively monogamous relationships many of these women also cheat. I've generally thought of monogamy as a controlling factor - which makes sense when raising children but somewhat less important as long as both partners emotional needs are being met inside the relationship.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 03:41 AM
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That got Warren Farrell so much mindshare did it not? There's a place for the good cop - right next to the bad one.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 03:35 AM
1

Rape apologist.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 03:34 AM
1

Exactly.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 03:34 AM
1

i love in particular whenever an MHRA posts on a left-leaning site how he is constantly demeaned for his lack of ability with women (a presumption on their part) or a virgin living in mom's basement.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 03:32 AM
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If you have a link that isn't a pdf great. I'm more interested in the methodology and how "successful" was defined.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 03:27 AM
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I feel bad voting geiger up but he is right. There is a tremendous amount of difference between assertiveness and aggressiveness. That doesn't mean the same person can't exhibit both. Many of the union reps I'd had in recent years were women. Aggressive isn't always bad either - only when it's done to belittle someone instead of their ideas. At 22 you haven't seen a whole lot. If I can put words into geiger's mouth the irony inherent in young women flocking to women's studies in a time when they…
/r/MensRights01/11/13 03:25 AM
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Honestly my perception of the Bond from the books (and to a slightly lesser degree the Craig and Lazenby movies) was that the womanization was largely a cover up for having a variety of emotional issues. Whether this is true for the general population of womanizers I've no idea. Probably just because they can (and are more able to separate themselves emotionally and sexually - read into that what you will).
/r/MensRights01/11/13 03:19 AM
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I can't think of a single one. I've not run up against men holding it against women that were "easy". Actually the opposite unless they got some kind of disease out of the deal. I'm certainly not interested in teaching someone the basics.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 03:15 AM
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Do you think that traditional women's jobs have more flexibility because they're easier, or because women are expected to spend more time on childcare? I've no idea. Many of them are however unionized. That in and of itself makes a tremendous difference. We rarely, if ever, allow telecommuting in the white collar sector (realized after writing it that this was an overstatement - rather I'll clarify: while the white collar segment is the only one that allows telecommuting to the best of my knowle…
/r/MensRights01/11/13 03:11 AM
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First of all that's some tradcon bullshit. Secondly men's jobs rarely have the flexibility women's jobs have. These are the reasons why family people often go into the public sector. Pay is so-so, good bennies, more days off and more flexibility. White collar work is terrible for this. My argument for women in the trades also has been that once they become journeymen they can put out their own shingle and work their own hours as a result. Also see Etsy. The drive towards white collar work is bot…
/r/MensRights01/11/13 01:50 AM
2

Yeah outside of a bdsm context it makes no sense.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 01:45 AM
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I would never marry a woman like this. Ever. What are the chances of being a househusband raising the kids and still getting no or minimal custody/visitation? Way too high.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 01:42 AM
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My buddhist friend would chalk this up to men's getting in touch with their own needs and becoming more spiritual like the Buddha's retreat from the world. I've been looking for work for months. Close to a year. I made the mistake of quitting a job I hated to start a business that thus far hasn't worked out. I'm blessed that I'm quasi-retired. I've been dedicated to "getting my head right" for years and much of that has been avoiding working 40 hours a week in jobs that I hate for and with peopl…
/r/MensRights01/11/13 01:41 AM
1

A fairly common way to get rid of an irritating spouse for women back in the day. Hopefully less common now.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 12:30 AM
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For those confused about the WDR logo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westdeutscher_Rundfunk
/r/MensRights01/11/13 12:27 AM
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They're already making men pick up the tab because of the fact that women would have to pay more and are concurrently getting less out of it.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 04:08 AM
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5th is mocking feminists and SRSers who proclaim that nothing is ever the woman's fault and it is always the man's fault no matter what. As far as cases that were brought for that reason I'm sure someone somewhere has a database but given how in California we've had cases decided where the woman never even said anything to end consent at the time and the accused were still found guilty it is a certainty that this has occurred numerous times.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 04:06 AM
1

No bugmenot on this either.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 03:59 AM
1

Absofuckinglutely. The only problem I see with that is other than Canada's National Post I'm not sure I've seen actual journalism in years.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 02:42 AM
6

You would fuck her when she was 15? Rapist!
/r/MensRights30/10/13 11:54 PM
2

Exactly this. We shouldn't be driving traffic there.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 11:51 PM
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I have seen feminists state this in other sites that have disqus.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 11:09 PM
1

Point taken.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 10:39 PM
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I can see how you got there. I was in part discussing an analogy to writing to read and how that works for retention. I guess what you're saying is something is better than nothing which is at least as valid. I'm essentially weighing in my think out loud manner which is better. There's no right answer for everyone.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 10:36 PM
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