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It's not going to turn a 3 into a 10. And to a woman, a 1 and a 6 are equally unattractive. Hence why I said that you are, in reality, either a 1 or a 0. And don't get me started on hair. How does a haircut fix a man's jaw, make him whiter, or make his shoulders broader?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 09:08 AM
1

You should still groom, but let's not act like it will make a man sexually attractive to women if he did not have the required genetic luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:37 AM
1

The only scale when it comes to women evaluating men is one or zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:00 AM
1

It doesn't matter how well-groomed you are if you're short, bald, or have a bad jawline.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:54 AM
1

It's simply supply and demand. There is a high supply and a low demand for most male sexuality, thus, the price drops and competition increases. There is a high demand and a low supply for all female sexuality, thus, the price raises and competition decreases. Since male competition increases, it means men are held to a much stricter standard. Since men are desperate for any woman, it means standards for women drop. Interestingly, the market flips on its head when you compare not just men, but i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:37 AM
1

You have to start with a quantifiable baseline for "attractive" - hard enough. Actually, it's very easy: Men: Above 6ft tall, muscular, broad shoulders, strong jawline, thick hair. Women: Just be a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 11:31 PM
1

Are women just lined up at prisons looking for them? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 12:35 AM
1

Because regardless of your outward attractiveness, as a human being you still have innate worth. Wrong. Worth is determined by the marketplace, and if no one will purchase your good, so to speak, even if you make it free, then you are literally worthless. Women have innate worth. Men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 07:19 PM
2

"I'm not responsible for my choices!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 07:17 PM
2

It's true, though. Women will never desire most men, thus, demand for most men will always be low.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:21 PM
3

It doesn't. Even if there were 100 women for every man, if those men were 5'7, then most men would still have the same dating experience as now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:57 PM
33

I'm ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:53 PM
2

Is there anything in life for which women take responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 02:24 PM
2

Wrong. They are only indirect with sexually unattractive men. Her Chad lust overcomes any fear of being seen as a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 06:14 AM
3

Thick is just another word for fat, most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 05:57 PM
0

Nope. That's why I can pick the ugliest woman you can find and get thousands of suitors for her on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 04:52 AM
8

There's no such thing as a woman with no men interested in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:56 AM
1

You seem to believe that women never become emotionally attached to men Only to Chad, and of course, there's always a bigger Chad in the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:40 AM
1

How good of a partner you are has nothing to do with how much sex you get. The only thing that matters there is how you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:39 AM
0

Men. Women have value by default, no matter their attractiveness. Men do not, unless they are sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:37 AM
3

Women don't care about their own safety at all. It's just an excuse they make up for unattractive men. My Chadfish had women giving me their addresses within 1-2 messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 03:17 AM
6

No one thinks that maintaining an adonis physique at the gym is easy. What we're saying is that your physique doesn't matter unless you have the other important markers of attractiveness: height, broad shoulders, a strong jawline, and good hair. All of these are determined by your genetics. If you don't have those, then getting ripped isn't going to get you women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:42 AM
3

Bone structure, generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:39 AM
1

Yes. Men and women should be treated equally. Since in our society, all things that happen to a man are his fault, then it follows that all things that happen to a woman are her fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:39 AM
1

So getting to go around sleeping with any woman you want and never having to do any actual work in your life while having every luxury you could possibly imagine sounds bad? Pps no guy gets the sexual attraction of every woman, even billionaires. Wrong. Women, for the most part, find the same things attractive. Therefore, if you are sexually attractive to one woman, you're sexually attractive to almost all of them. There are outliers, of course, but the rule holds generally true. Women like tall…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 04:26 AM
1

Man, it sounds awful, getting the affection and sexual attraction from pretty much every woman. Oh and if you're Chad enough you can become a billionaire because someone posted your mugshot which leads to a lucrative modeling career and life in the highest echelons of society... just because of the way your jaw is shaped, no matter what sort of crimes you committed. Yeah that just sounds awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 04:20 AM
1

But also, I've never been approached in public by a woman. Yes, because you aren't Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 04:14 AM
5

How does taking a bath or dressing better make you taller, whiter, or give you a stronger jawline?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 09:39 PM
1

Women are only passive if they do not find you sexually attractive. If they find you sexually attractive, modern women are just as aggressive as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 10:01 AM
24

A woman who makes as much money as you do will not want to marry you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 07:01 PM
2

Nope, there's a reason "unconditional surrender" is a thing. You only give concessions to your opponent if they have leverage. If they have no leverage (and thus, you have no weakness), then there is no reason to give them any concessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 01:28 AM
1

You can still be agreeable and also realize it is never a good idea to display weakness to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 12:11 AM
1

I'm not disagreeing. I think it would be better if men could compromise with women but ultimately they aren't ever going to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 10:19 PM
6

Sacrifice or compromising with a woman is a sign of weakness and low sexual status. We all know what women think if that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 09:03 PM
1

Ok Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 11:25 PM
2

But by this logic, she doesn't like YOU Women never like men. Women like what men provide. That can be, if the man is lucky, his looks. But more often it is money or status.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 04:19 AM
1

Yes, it's Chad as I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 11:22 PM
1

Women don't go Dutch, though. Not for normal men at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 08:49 PM
1

I have the face and the body type. So, you're Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 05:22 AM
2

If you're Chad, sure, but most men aren't Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 04:05 AM
4

A woman will never, ever be there for you in your weakness. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 03:54 AM
2

Because I have spent a fair amount of time around legitimate Chads. The amount of sexual harassment and assault they experience from women is hilarious. The theory works out, too. Chad is rare, and by comparison women are not. Since women are abundant, they are therefore the worthless party. Since women are worthless in this market, it means women have to act like men in the normal SMV as normal men are worthless in the normal SMV. If she doesn't, Chad has hundreds of equally hot women who will.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 05:39 PM
2

Yep. So, it's their fault in the sense that they marry someone who has no sexual attraction to them, but if that's the case then almost no men would ever marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 01:50 AM
0

Wrong. A woman's sexual appetite for Chad never dims or changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 01:49 AM
6

Wrong. Most men never have any women sexually attracted to him at all during his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 01:46 AM
2

You're right, so what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 12:43 AM
1

It's not hypocrisy. Women want women to be at an advantage, even if it is detrimental to men. So, there's nothing wrong with men doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 09:33 PM
1

They shouldn't. But that's not answering the question. There's nothing wrong with looking out for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 08:23 PM
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Why should men care whether women get the short end of the stick?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 07:42 PM
3

But how many of those drooling men would actually commit to her? Most of them, just not the guys she wants (The guys all women want.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 07:29 PM
2

There is nothing wrong with condemning someone in order to achieve your goals. Women are not entitled to anything: that includes being treated well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 06:57 AM
2

What's wrong with being self-serving?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 05:03 AM
2

Better question, why should I care?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 12:17 AM
1

Fat dudes and ugly dudes aren't getting laid because women want to sleep with them, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 07:33 PM
1

Unless you're Chad, you have to pay for sex, whether it's your wife/girlfriend or a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 06:58 PM
1

Men are more loyal as no men ever have the amount of options even a mediocre woman has. The reasons for that loyalty don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 07:05 AM
1

Definitely. But men almost never have options, so it's a moot point. The men who do tend to treat women like women treat most men so I don't really have a problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 06:21 AM
2

Because women want free stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 06:20 AM
58

Women are not entitled to mens' protection.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 02:01 AM
1

Sure, you dead bedroom them after you've secured his resources. I imagine people can put up with very unpleasant stuff for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 01:46 AM
-3

What's wrong with being selfish?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 01:30 AM
1

Women seem to select against intelligence, however, at least in the modern day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 01:17 AM
9

Men don't generally options. Women always have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 01:16 AM
2

What does finding a wife have to do with sexual attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 12:31 AM
2

If I were a woman, you'd be right. If you are a guy and aren't an 8+, to women you're a 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 11:01 PM
1

Most members are morbid and cannot be "high-value" men, so there is no need to talk about them. It is definitely hard to not be repulsive to women as that is entirely based on the physical characteristics you were born with, and don't change. It's not good manners to believe you're entitled to a man's money, no. You're an adult and apparently not a prostitute, so pay your half. If you won't, let's skip dinner and head to bed and then I'll be happy to pay you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 06:55 PM
1

So what you're saying is I have to pay a woman and not even get what I want? That seems like a huge waste of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 06:38 PM
0

I'm not entitled to sex. Why are women entitled to my money? Also, you didn't answer how this makes you any different than a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 06:17 PM
1

I can afford the money. That's not the point. The point is her time is no more valuable than mine. If I have to pay, what separates you from a prostitute?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 03:05 PM
1

But women do lie. There you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 05:56 AM
3

. Lets say the average girl sleeps with 20 guys in her lifetime, which is probably pushing it because a lot of girls barely sleep with anyone. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 05:06 AM
4

I would never marry. I'm not Chad, so the only reason a woman would tolerate me is money. Since that's the case, I can sleep with hotter women by fucking prostitutes for less money. I would never have children. The world is an awful place and only going to get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 04:29 AM
1

Fortunately, I don't really care about your opinion as to whether I should be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 02:46 AM
1

I'm not offended. You're wrong, but you'll have to do better than that to offend me. I would if I could, to be quite honest. I can't, but struck the genetic lottery and am a good looking loser who scrapped into the middle class at a very late age. Congratulations, I guess? I'm considering pretty extensive facial surgery to fix the stuff that makes me unattractive as the benefits of being attractive go far beyond just getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 02:24 AM
1

So you have to have options to be able to discuss relationships and sexuality? Also, I have options. I've just got to pay for all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 02:03 AM
2

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 01:23 AM
2

There are no degrees of sexual attraction to women. Either you're Chad or you're hideous. You absolutely should exercise, but don't go into it thinking it'll make you attractive because if you weren't born with those genes, it won't. t. a 1/10 who is in the gym almost every night of the week.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 01:15 AM
2

Lifting won't make you sexually attractive if you don't have proper facial structure. You should still get stronger, though, especially if you are a low-tier man because everyone in your life is going to try and walk over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 12:46 AM
1

I get that girls won't ever fuck someone like you, but there is a huge range of men that they will sleep with who fall in between Chads and absolute bottom tier guys like yourself. Sure, but guys like me have to pay for it, which is a very important difference. For most men, all relationships with women are essentially prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 12:44 AM
1

If women wanted to be equal partners, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 01:07 AM
1

No woman has to put in any effort in dating. But even if they did, you must just be a pushover.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 12:42 AM
1

Except that's not what you're inviting them to do. You're inviting them to get to know you better. If you don't know how much a cup of coffee costs beforehand that's your own problem. Alternatively she could pick somewhere but god forbid a woman put in any effort or initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 10:21 PM
1

Alternatively, an adult can pay for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 09:39 PM
1

Alternatively, you could just refuse to pay for women...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 08:50 PM
2

What you say isn't the point, since it isn't true. Chad doesn't have to pay because he has hundreds of options who both will pay for him and are hotter than you. The main thing I wanted to get across is why men might feel negatively about having to pay for what you'll give to other guys for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 07:50 PM
1

It's more effort than Chad puts in, and I hope you can understand why men might find that distasteful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 07:40 PM
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Of course it has never been an issue, since you are a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 07:37 PM
1

We are discussing in general. If you don't care about the vast majority if men, why even discuss the topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:58 PM
2

So why bother talking about who asks more when you simply believe "penis = pays"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:57 PM
1

Why would I make an investment with no to little chances if any return? I have no problems paying for friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:56 PM
4

So why not just say you believe men should pay instead of trying to obscure your actual beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:55 PM
4

"Average" to a woman is top 20% of looks, so, no, most guys won't ever be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:55 PM
3

Why do you believe men should always pay for women just because they are men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:53 PM
1

Nope. I make tons of money. I still won't spend a penny on a woman who I haven't slept with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:52 PM
2

The money doesn't matter. I make plenty of money. The woman's time is not more valuable than mine. If I have to pay, I might as well pay a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:52 PM
3

Not more and more often unless you are s male model. Most guys will rarely ever have that happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:49 PM
2

And that's why a man should never pay for a woman who he hasn't fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:43 PM
1

So what you're saying is you are ok using men you don't like for free resources. men insist on paying because we learn we don't get second dates if we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:38 PM
0

Except you already stated that the initiating party (men) should pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:23 PM
2

Yes, I am bitter about people who are too afraid to state what they actually believe. If you believe men should always pay, why not just say so? Stop trying to complicate the issue. Most men will very rarely, if ever, have a woman initiate with them, so men will very rarely, if ever, be the one not paying. If a man wants to date, he has to pay. Do you understand why people might be a bit upset about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:06 PM
4

Men almost are always the ones who are asking, so, men are almost always the ones who are paying. So, why not say you just believe men should pay instead of hiding what you believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 05:49 PM
3

So why do you believe men should almost always pay simply because they are men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 05:42 PM
1

Because we know if we don't pay, we don't generally get a second date. I promise you we don't like getting bing money to strange women for the hell of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:43 AM
1

Because men know if they don't pay, they don't see her again. Not because we like giving money to strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:41 AM
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Women do it because if they are ambiguous it allows them to string unattractive men along for free resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 05:07 AM
1

When the 100th comment came in i had to ask ...When are women ever straight forward about their intentions? They are straightforward when they are dealing with sexually attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 02:52 AM
1

Because you are competing against the guy who is #1.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 06:59 PM
1

The best is loser misogynistic Chad. He has no redeeming qualities yet women love him for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 02:35 AM
1

Maybe. But as you said, no one is entitled to my help.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 10:56 PM
1

Nope. Women chase Chad. The same laws of supply and demand apply with Chad and women, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 10:44 PM
1

Wrong. That's only the case if you aren't Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 10:38 PM
0

No one is entitled to your help, Glad that's settled! but not good enough for you to treat them like a human being. I treat them like a human being. I wouldn't help a man in the same situation, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 10:36 PM
4

It's important to know the truth, even if it sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 02:57 PM
8

Then you are low value to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 02:54 PM
3

Do you have a six pack and a strong jawline?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 02:18 PM
1

You don't have to be a Chad to get laid. You do have to be a Chad for women to want to sleep with you, simply to sleep with you. Everyone else has to pay in some way or another. In any case, even different "types" of women want the same guys as every other woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 06:54 AM
5

"I'm not a prostitute but you had better keep paying me to sleep with you!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 01:26 AM
1

Almost all women are sexually attractive to men, whereas almost no men are sexually attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 11:45 PM
1

No matches at all really. Due to Tinder I'm no longer sure I even am an average guy tbh You may well be average, but it's important to remember that average is hideous to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 11:36 PM
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and it's seriously made me give up because it just shows that they aren't even people worth dating since they put in zero effort, Try Chadfishing. You'll see how the other side lives. It's amazing how much effort women put in to talking to me when I barely responded, or didn't even respond at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 11:35 PM
1

Sure it does. People favor those they find sexually attractive in all aspects of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 11:25 PM
0

This also applies in a professional capacity, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 09:50 PM
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No. Women have always hated unattractive men. They just have been forced to put up with us because they weren't able to make a living on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 09:49 PM
3

Is buying a video game an investment? Yes, and I get a return on it. A burger? A shirt? I get a return on my investment there, too. What you're really buying is fun time to entertain yourself before you die in a few short years. Spending time with random women isn't fun unless we're fucking. I would normally rather be getting a root canal than listening to her blather on about whatever bullshit. Also, I find it somewhat demeaning that if I were more attractive, the requirement that I buy a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 08:53 PM
2

There are no specific types of men to women, except for the distinction between Chad and non-Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 08:51 PM
2

Because you should have some self-respect. Your time is presumably just as valuable as theirs. What's the point of money if I can't spend it on having a good time with people that I choose? Why would you invest money with little to no chance of a return on your investment?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 08:48 PM
2

It's really irrelevant to me which gender pays. Then why are you saying that men should always pay? But I feel like if you're the one asking a person out And if you aren't a literal Greek god, that is always going to be the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 08:37 PM
2

Most first dates don't result in second. So, I have to ask, why do you believe men should always pay for dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 08:28 PM
3

Dating apps just show that women don't give a fuck about confidence, personality, or any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 08:17 PM
0

The ratio of men to women doesn't matter. Even if there was one guy to four women, that guy wouldn't get any matches if he didn't look like a Greek god.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 08:09 PM
2

So what you are saying is that men should always pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 08:07 PM
1

You are definitely a sucker. Paying for friends you know is on thing but you should never give money to random women. I make good money and have no debt. I won't even pay for a drink for a woman to establish I'm not here for betabucks. Why would I invest money in her when it's very likely I'll never see her again?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 07:47 PM
1

Post pictures, Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 07:37 PM
3

All women want hookups, actually, just with the same few guys. There is nothing more s woman loves than sucking off a stranger she just met behind the Waffle House.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 07:36 PM
88

Tinder is great as a guy if you want to get rid of your self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 09:46 AM
6

The men that all women want have hundreds (if not more) options at any one time, so, yes, it's irrational for these "lonely" women to think that these men will pick them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 02:10 AM
6

You don't see how what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 02:06 AM
1

Statistically speaking, men are much more likely to be the victims of a violent crime than women, so, how do we have the advantage in safety? Also, a lot of the violence against men is gang-related. So what you're saying is that these victims asked for it. Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 02:06 AM
1

When did something being stupid stop people from doing it anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 11:31 PM
8

It's irrational to expect the few guys that all women want to pick you out of the hundreds of other options he has, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 10:24 PM
1

Wrong. "Bottom of the barrel" women want the same men as every other woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 09:12 PM
1

Then you might want to be more specific. Of course getting relationships with the 1% of men that all women want is difficult, simply because of demand. However, your statement that getting a relationship is difficult is not true at all, because any woman will have hundreds of suitors at any time if she goes outside or has a phone. That's a self-caused problem, though, so no sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 08:54 PM
1

Men have the advantage in safety. Men are disproportionately the victims of violence, the homeless, and the imprisoned. oook
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 08:29 PM
1

Getting relationships as a woman seems to be more important, yet it isn't easy Yes, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 08:28 PM
0

How can I think of something that doesn't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 07:21 PM
9

The problem is that most women are absolute doormats and cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 06:23 PM
1

Normal women don't understand or care how men feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 05:35 PM
2

I think you're missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 08:08 AM
2

The vast majority of women have sex with average guys whom they find attractive. Then why do these guys have difficulty getting casual sex, if women find them sexually attractive? Also, there's a difference between sexual attraction and other attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 07:43 AM
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Yep. As I said, I could be sleeping with porn stars right now, but I have to pay for it. Most men get sex not because women want to have sex with them, but because they want something from the man: resources, status, drugs, etc. The sex is a means to an end. For some lucky guys, blessed by the genetic roll of the dice, they have the immutable characteristics that are required for women to find them sexually attractive (IE: women will have sex with them simply to have sex with them). If you don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 07:38 AM
5

That's true! And often a bunch of women are in a relationship with the same guy, too!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 07:32 AM
2

none of which is needed to get laid Sure, I can go fuck a 10/10 right now if I give her enough money. To get a woman to want to have sex with you, though, yeah, it is necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 07:27 AM
2

Oh no people say bad things about you! However will you survive? Also people don't also say bad things about men too!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:53 AM
2

Wow, why didn't anyone think of that? I guess all us guys are going to get together and get taller, broader, whiter, and jaws that can cut glass!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:49 AM
3

Women are not entitled to men's protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:43 PM
-2

All women can have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 07:56 PM
0

Not being a planetoid makes you a 6-7/10 automatically, at least in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 07:24 PM
10

Men in general have low standards. Chad, on the other hand, does not (At least for long-term relationships). Since Chad is the only man women notice, of course they will act like men have high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 02:50 PM
1

Sure, but only one gender has their sexual success affected by obesity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:50 AM
1

Well, Americans are fat, hence screwed. Unless they are women, then they get as much sex as they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:35 AM
1

It is. Women have always despised ugly men, but now that they don't need us, they can actually show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:08 AM
1

That may very well be true, but they are like women everywhere: they have a deep-seated instinctual hatred of most men, but become animals in heat when they see a man with a strong jawline and broad shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 07:48 AM
1

They are only frigid to unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 07:41 AM
1

Fat women aren't the bottom of the barrel, though. It's sad to say it gets much worse than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 07:13 AM
7

The difference is the average American male is invisible to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 11:01 PM
1

Neat. My main problem with that, however, is the duration. My weight fluctuates sometimes up to five pounds a day, depending on when I take the measurements. In any case, I agree with you tangentially. Eating nothing but calorie-dense, nutritionally valueless foods will cause you to gain weight because you never feel full. That is, after all, the entire point so you will buy more of the food. It's the same with sodas which never sate your thirst so you keep on buying. .
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 10:24 PM
9

Going to the gym, walking a bit on a treadmill, and doing light weights on a machine burns very few calories. For instance, I'm a very tall guy, and I expend maybe 200-250 calories running a mile at a decent pace (8-9 minutes). By comparison, I can eat that many calories in about thirty seconds if I decide I want some chocolate or pizza. People regularly underestimate how many calories are in their food (And I've met some people that don't realize how many they are drinking by putting sugar, cre…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 10:02 PM
1

Which is only indirectly related to your caloric intake. You could lose weight eating nothing but twinkies and other processed sugar shit, for instance, as long as you eat fewer calories than you expend: http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html The problem is that Americans simply eat too much and exercise too little. The solution to losing weight is to eat fewer calories or exercise more, but the former is much more effective at simple weight loss than the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 09:55 PM
1

Wrong. What you eat only has an effect so far as it reduces your caloric intake. Now, you are correct in that if you change from a carbohydrate-heavy diet to a fat or protein heavy diet, you may lose weight because it's harder to eat 3000 calories of steak than it is to eat 3000 calories of potato chips, but ultimately all that matters is caloric intake versus caloric expenditure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 09:38 PM
3

Women are not entitled to anything from men, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 09:14 PM
1

Beyond their early heart disease and diabetes, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 08:01 PM
1

Yes, that is exactly what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 05:44 PM
1

So? Your statement is incorrect. The obesity epidemic has not made dating any harder for women. You might be more correct if you said it "was a major killer in dating and attraction for men" as women have much higher physical beauty standards than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 04:56 PM
0

Women being fat is the same as men being short, Wrong, fat women get laid as much as they want with very attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 04:54 PM
4

It's not ironic, slim/normal western men can find LTRs with slim/normal women. Wrong! Being slim/normal in the west is not enough to attract a woman who isn't a walking planetoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 04:53 PM
5

Yes. That's how it works. If you eat more calories than you expend, you gain weight. Thus, the solution is to eat fewer calories (Easier) or expend more (harder.) That's the only solution, outside of surgery which tends to just be a temporary fix anyways. The problem is that for women at least there are no forces encouraging them to watch their weight, as the sexual marketplace is so skewed in their favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 04:52 PM
3

The difference is that men are judged harsher for being fat than women, at least in the sexual marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 04:49 PM
3

Won't change anything, as most men have no value to women at all. You only have negotiating leverage if you possess something of value to the other party.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 04:39 PM
2

You are competing against guys who have six packs, better faces, and make more than you. Sorry. The solution is to make more money and get on juice. Also consider cosmetic surgery because a 6/10 face doesn't cut it in the age where every woman can have Henry Cavill lookalikes blowing up her phone on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 07:09 AM
5

All women sell sex, in one form or another, so I don't care that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 05:22 AM
2

So you think women should let a complete stranger put their penis in them If that's what they want to do, sure. but it’s too much to ask for said penis to not put them in a dangerous situation? It's not my responsibility to look out for the safety of other people. but try and see the problem with making both staying and leaving a dangerous situation for any given woman. Why should I care about whether something is dangerous for someone else? You never answered my question, either, fyi. Why are w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 07:50 PM
8

you could just be a human being looking out for another human being. No? Why would I? If the situations were reversed and I needed something from a random woman, it is pretty bad odds that anyone would give it to me. Why do you think women are entitled to things from men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 07:17 PM
5

I'm not going to harass anyone. When she says no, I'll then politely escort her to the door and tell her goodnight. But she is certainly not entitled to anything from me, as I am not entitled to anything from her. If she wants to drive drunk home, that's on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 05:59 PM
7

So? She's not entitled to transportation or a place to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 05:41 PM
3

Yes, as if the average man's relationships are something to strive for. Oh, I can get a worn out 35 year old single mom who lets me fuck her once a year and in exchange I have to provide for her and her bastards year-round! What a great deal!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 09:10 PM
3

What is your point, then? It's not clear at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 07:40 PM
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Women not initiating does not equal women not consenting. If that were the case, then 99% of men are all rapists as most men will never have a woman initiate with them in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 07:35 PM
0

The guy who she wants to fuck wouldn't marry her, is why.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 07:27 PM
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Irrelevant. The fact is that women will never initiate unless you look like Jeremy Meeks (or whoever the current really hot guy is at the moment.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 07:19 PM
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Yes. We are taught as members of our society that women are angels and incapable of behaving badly. Why wouldn't you trust them when that's the constant refrain from everyone AND you don't have the experience otherwise to dispute it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:58 PM
1

I would abandon the mother and the child, cut all contact with my brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:21 PM
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All people are terrible. The problem is that people do not want to acknowledge that women are also awful people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:15 PM
6

Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:07 PM
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A woman will never make the first move unless you look like Jeremy Meeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:01 PM
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They are adult women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:00 PM
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The right thing to do is just to kick her out and let her find her own way home.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:57 PM
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Ask me how I know you've never been on a date with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:56 PM
4

Because it means I don't often get laid, so of course I'm not happy about it. Why else would it? Also women lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:05 AM
2

There is nothing wrong with hating in return a group of people who hate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 08:24 PM
7

He is the biggest example of how looks are the only thing that matter to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:27 AM
3

What's wrong with babies starving if the mother can't support them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:03 AM
3

t. Boomer
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 10:33 PM
2

It's not meaningless if it's with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:14 AM
1

Sorry, truth hurts. Women initiate with men as often as men initiate with women, but while men approach all women, women approach only the same tiny percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 01:39 AM
1

Women are not passive at all when they find you sexually attractive. The problem is that you're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 12:02 AM
-1

Women aren't going to change the fact that they are shitty about height, so the solution is certainly to be shitty about their weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:44 PM
2

I don't care. Fend for yourself or starve.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 03:08 AM
2

I agree. Hence why we need to remove all forms of welfare. If a woman has a child and can't provide for it, let them both starve.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 02:30 AM
3

The difference is the woman wants and therefore will get free resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 02:23 AM
2

From what female friends have told me it looks to women like I'm overcompensating with muscles which sucks cause I genuinely just enjoy working out. Don't take what those women say seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 06:24 AM
1

Obese women can too. Go make a Tinder account as one if you don't believe me. If you are a woman, you can have sex as much as you want, whenever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 03:19 AM
1

A male stranger hit on me once in a parking lot. But beyond that I've never received a compliment from anyone beyond my mother for how I look.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 12:25 AM
2

You don't get laid more than a fat woman who wants to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 09:37 PM
1

Yes it is. There's just no reason for the man to commit to one woman, as if he is hot to one woman, he's hot to almost all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:53 PM
3

Women also like being pumped and dumped. Why else do they do it so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:16 PM
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Fat women can get laid any time they want, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 05:17 PM
2

He was fresh out of jail when a stable, successful billionaire wanted to marry him because of how he looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 04:56 AM
5

*Laughs in Jeremy Meeks*
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 04:51 AM
3

Because being hot is all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 04:51 AM
1

She can't catch a Chad if she's homeless or starving.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 04:32 AM
5

Your dads right, no women who works hard to be a stable sucessful woman wants to date a dude who makes mimium wage and can name more wow raid bossed then us states Yes, they do, as long as he's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 03:49 AM
4

Society is about protecting and pleasing women, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 03:42 AM
11

How would it benefit women for men to understand that women see most men as subhuman?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 03:12 AM
-1

No, it doesn't. A woman's only priority in life is to obtain sexual access to Chad. She might need money, but that is only so she can survive while attempting to attract Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 01:59 AM
2

Wrong. A woman is always sexually attracted to Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 12:33 AM
2

Yep. I have people having power over me. No matter how much I fight it, I can't help but care about the opinions of women because I'm a heterosexual man. I don't like these women. As soon as I've slept with them I never want to see them again, but I'm still drawn to them despite it most just resulting in rejection. The happiest I was in my life was when antidepressants basically removed my sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 04:40 PM
1

Yes. Chasing Chad so they can reproduce. There is nothing that matters to women beyond that. >If you force them to face a consequence of losing an opportunity they currently have they will make better decisions as a whole. Yes, in people who are behaving rationally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 05:20 AM
1

Wrong Your personality has nothing to do with whether women want to fuck you, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 05:16 AM
1

Of course they can have fun, as they get one of their fundamental needs met by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 05:09 AM
1

Unless they are physically attractive, then they will get laid as much as they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 05:08 AM
1

Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 05:07 AM
1

No, they wouldn't. Chasing Chad is the only thing in life to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 05:03 AM
5

Expect? Maybe not (At least when they get older). Desire, definitely, hence why you cannot expect loyalty from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 05:01 AM
0

Lol you think women have to put in more effort to be attractive than a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:46 AM
1

So if you don't believe it, go and do it for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:40 AM
0

"Stop invalidating victims of assault, but hold on one sec while I invalidate the victims of assault."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 11:05 PM
1

The wigs and hair replacement stuff they make today are supposed to be pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 11:04 PM
3

I see you didn't read anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 11:03 PM
1

Then go and reproduce it yourself if you think he wouldn't get hundreds of matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 11:03 PM
1

Yep. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 03:58 AM
1

Wrong, because most men don't even count as men to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 03:10 AM
7

Tl;dr people aren’t that interested in being your friend, girlfriend, sexual partner, supervisor, co worker, business partner, etc if you have a shit personality. Does not equal: Tl;dr people with "shit personalities" aren’t that interested in being your friend, girlfriend, sexual partner, supervisor, co worker, business partner, etc if you have a shit personality. Please feel free to admit you are wrong and amend your initial statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 03:08 AM
9

Given that it isn't what you said, no, you're just moving the goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 03:03 AM
2

You are literally arguing against people for saying rape isn't the victims fault. I am arguing that victims are not at fault for crimes committed against them. You are the one victim-blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 03:01 AM
5

Why do you care about a woman who excuses a racist bigot because he’s hot? Because you made the statement: Tl;dr people aren’t that interested in being your friend, girlfriend, sexual partner, supervisor, co worker, business partner, etc if you have a shit personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 03:01 AM
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Yes, I am sure the likelihood of those Tinder girls being neo-nazis rather than just not caring because the guy is hot is high.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 01:35 AM
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Tl;dr people aren’t that interested in being your friend, girlfriend, sexual partner, supervisor, co worker, business partner, etc if you have a shit personality. Hahahahahahaha no. Women don't care if you are literally a nazi as long as you look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 12:57 AM
6

Yes, I did something wrong by not being born physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 12:51 AM
1

You don't have to be a member of a gang to come to a violent end. That can happen just walking down the street, and is statistically more likely to happen to a man than a woman. All you're arguing is "They were asking for it by doing X." I just want equality. If we're going to blame male victims, then we should treat female victims the exact same way. Why are you against equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 12:47 AM
4

Why should I try when 95% of what I experience is rejection and the 5% that isn't rejection is me having to dance like a trained monkey for the entertainment of a woman who likely weighs so much she can't even move under her own power?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 11:29 PM
2

but if you think being an marginally interesting and tolerable person who showers and can put together an outfit, carry on a conservation and flirt is too much to ask, you better ramp up those wrist exercises. You forgot your other requirements: They be tall, white, and have a six pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 11:28 PM
1

No. If a woman isn't on a deserted island or locked in solitary confinement, then she has tens, hundreds, or thousands of suitors at any one time (depending on how attractive she is and the size of her social circle.) If a woman wants to slut it up, she can. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 09:19 PM
4

Any who have the desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 09:01 PM
1

Chadfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 09:00 PM
2

It's easy to say sex isn't that important when you're having it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 08:37 PM
1

Lol alright if you're going to start comparing taxes Is there no compulsion in paying taxes? Tell me, what happens if you don't pay your taxes or if you break the law? This conversation isn't going to go any where and I am going to to try to force you into seeing women as people. Women are people, and we as a society force people (mainly men) to do things all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 06:01 AM
2

Coerced? No Alright, no more taxes then! Society will kind of fall apart, though. No laws either. Hurray! But you can't make someone use their body for another. Yes we can. That's society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 05:50 AM
1

So you don't think I should be coerced at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 05:41 AM
1

Work is also my body. I am forced to work (IE: Use my body, and the limited time in which I have it) to pay for things which I do not care about. So why is one form of coercion so much worse than the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 05:38 AM
2

What is inherently different about coercing people to do sexual things versus non-sexual things? For instance, I'm coerced all the time to pay for things in society that I have no use for. Do you agree this is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 05:35 AM
1

That's not an answer. We coerce people all the time for the good of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 05:32 AM
1

Well we need to figure something else out then because it's wrong to expect women to just sleep with men to make them not be violent. Why is that wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 03:02 AM
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Hence why alimony and child support should be eliminated, so if a woman doesn't hold up to her end of the transaction, she can be dropped.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 03:00 AM
0

Boomer is a state of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 01:33 AM
8

Nope. Even burn victims and horrendously deformed women do not struggle with dating. They may struggle with dating the men they want, but that is their own fault, as they want the same men that all other women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 12:52 AM
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If you are on the cusp of being attractive, then get attractive: Fix your diet, hit the gym, get steroids (Because the guys you are competing with are using them), and act like a giant asshole. If you aren't, then don't waste your time trying. Contribute as little to society as possible. Never do anything for a woman that does not give you more in return than you have to give to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 12:21 AM
1

You're saying "Just be more attractive" when "Just be more attractive" means I have to alter unalterable things about myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 11:58 PM
5

How is work supposed to change the shape of my jaw, make me taller, or make me whiter? I'm not acting above them. The only women available to me: Expect me to pay a high price to sleep with them. I do not find them very sexually attractive. They may be great people, but I don't interact with women because I care about their personalities. Why would I invest any effort into something when I can just jerk off and not waste my time wining and dining some 500 lb hambeast that has 500 men lusting aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 10:56 PM
4

What does that have to do with anything I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 10:49 PM
12

Because it is always voluntary if a woman isn't having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 10:48 PM
6

Why would I waste time, effort, and money (because as a male 3, a female 1 still expects a lot out of me to get laid) pursuing unattractive women who aren't even into you in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 10:42 PM
4

Why didn't you read the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 10:37 PM
9

ITT: Someone who didn't read the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 10:37 PM
1

So let's let these bastard children starve, and let the old people who can't afford to feed themselves also starve.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 08:27 PM
2

He is definitely a creep, because creep just means ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 08:26 PM
0

No women are loyal beyond what you can give them, so, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 07:51 PM
2

No. But if you are 1. dealing in illegal activities 2. a member of a street gang - then you have a high level of risk. Right, and just like if you hang out at bars, get shitfaced, wander around at night, you clearly deserve what happens to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 06:20 AM
2

As you said in the other conversation, sometimes people deserve to be the victims of crimes. That's your logic, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 05:13 AM
2

So people who sell drugs deserve to be the victims of other crimes? So, what you are saying is that sometimes people deserve to have crimes committed on them. Also, you don't have to sell drugs to be a victim of a violent crime as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 05:12 AM
1

If men hated immature women so much, no man would ever get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 12:52 AM
3

Why would I care at all about the pleasure of a woman I never plan on seeing again?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 12:51 AM
1

I don't think performing a cost:benefit analysis makes one a sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 03:59 PM
0

Women do not have to go out drinking at night, so by your logic, if something happens to them, it is their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 03:55 PM
11

There clearly is a difference between victims who are in a gang or are trash talking in bars... and victims who just happened to be in the place of crime. So what you're saying is that these people shouldn't have gone to certain places or acted a certain way and that they deserved what happened to them? Really activates my almonds, this. I wonder how else we could apply this logic...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 06:28 AM
13

Yeah by other men...and that’s because they get in physical fights with each other, are part of gangs etc. So you're saying that the victims were asking for it and therefore their victimhood is justified? HMMMMMM.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 06:00 AM
1

I'm not seeking to undermine it. That would require I care about it. I care about getting what I want. If it benefits me in the immediate or short-term, I am for it. If it doesn't, I am against it. Feeding starving children does not immediately benefit me, therefore, I am against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:58 AM
0

I don't care about society nor do I care about these children and their mothers. It is in my immediate best interest to not support them, and presumably keep more of my money, therefore, I say let them go hungry. It's why I'm also against things like public schooling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 04:15 AM
1

Do you think low income children should starve to death? Yes, and their mothers, too, if they are unable to afford food. Why is this a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:58 PM
12

What's wrong with letting the mother and child starve if she can't support them? Maybe she should have had some personal responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 09:54 PM
2

Women will escalate if they find you sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:56 PM
1

You should never give a woman your attention freely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 04:25 PM
3

The only way to change social norms in men is to get women to fuck guys who don't live up to those norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 04:24 PM
3

Social norms are not changing for men, only for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:13 AM
5

I never asked whether it makes me a good person. I asked whether it's in my self-interest to do so. I'm not concerned with being a good person, as there you get the exact opposite of a reward for doing so. Also it's not illegal to lead someone on. If that were the case, then there would be no women outside of prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:07 AM
8

Woman feel bad for guys who try and they dont succeed and think those guys are so sweet. Hahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 05:12 AM
3

Ok, why would I pay for a hooker when those hookers are willing to fuck certain guys for free? Isn't it in my best interest to do whatever I can to trick or deceive them into giving it up to me for free? And yes, I'm going to be insulted if I have to pay for something she gave to other guys for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 04:32 AM
16

Because he is a man, and men are held accountable for their mistakes even if it isn't really their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 04:17 AM
7

"Hey guys, just pay for something I gave that woman-beater for free behind the Waffle House 10 minutes after meeting him!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 04:13 AM
1

It isn't one data set. It is multiple, some of which can be invalid without affecting the others. Sorry that women being picky upsets you so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 04:04 AM
2

It's not based on bullshit data. Back then, you didn't have to like anyone to send them a message (or as it was back then, rate them), so, bots didn't. They just spammed as wide a net as possible. You also had lots of human scammers posing as women. So while womens' message rates are junk data, the likes aren't, as scammers/bots had no incentive to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 03:41 AM
0

Act like they will benefit from association. It's called sales.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 03:00 AM
2

No, they were using actual data pruned from OKCupid's stats (The guy who did that study was part owner of OKcupid and wrote a book using some of the same stats called "Dataclysm") ... and if you know anything about dating sites, a considerable number of female "users" are actually bots, especially the ones that go around initiating with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 03:00 AM
1

Remember, the activities of bot scripts designed to scam dumbasses on the internet are indicative of the actions of actual women!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 01:20 AM
0

Your same strategy when dealing with everyone: Use them for as much benefit to yourself as possible while giving them as little in return as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 12:23 AM
1

Women send almost no messages so who they messaged is irrelevant, and most of the messages women did send were from bots which target men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 11:21 PM
1

Most Americans make less than $35k/year
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 11:17 PM
0

Because people have no reason to behave unless they are rewarded for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 10:06 PM
2

Someone post the "Having a daughter is the highest cuckoldry" copypasta.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 05:51 AM
4

Yes, hence why all men should aspire to be fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 10:04 PM
1

No, I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 09:40 PM
1

You know women communicate indirectly right. Its literally how they think and feel. Wrong. Women communicate indirectly with sexually unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 08:40 PM
4

I'm not saying it's true. I am saying that we should simply treat women like we treat men. And for men in our society, everything that happens to you is your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 04:10 PM
1

The actual solution is to let both the mother and child go hungry if she isn't able to provide for the bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 03:14 PM
2

Why should any man give a fuck about society?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 03:00 PM
4

There are also plenty of male-female relationships that are platonic in nature. Yes, they are platonic on one side of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 02:23 PM
4

Nah, it just means he fucked her but didn't give her the commitment she wanted. Also, if that's your definition then all men are fuckboys because that's the only reason men spend any time or effort on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 02:15 PM
2

If the benefits to me of keeping her around or marrying her outweighed the costs, yes. That's a very tall order, given the costs of relationships and marriage to men, and unlikely to happen, but it is in theory possible. I don't care whether she's a slut. But since I know all women will sleep with an attractive man within seconds of meeting him, I measure her reaction to me in the same way. I certainly wouldn't invest anything in a woman who didn't treat me like she has treated Chad behind the W…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 02:09 PM
2

Not wanting something does not equal not knowing about something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 02:06 PM
2

Women want romantic relationships with these guys. They call them "fuckboys" because they don't get what they want from these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 02:03 PM
11

If he's hot enough, all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 02:02 PM
2

lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 02:00 PM
1

And?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 01:59 PM
17

Oh so when women get with bad partners, it's their own fault Yes? If she didn't want to be with those guys, then... don't be with them. It's called personal responsibility. We should hold women to the exact same standards as we hold men, and that means that everything that happens to a woman is the fault of that woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 01:55 PM
4

A quality long-term relationship is built on sexual attraction. A woman isn't sexually attracted to you unless she immediately sleeps with you. Therefore, a quality long-term relationship isn't possible unless she immediately sleeps with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 01:55 PM
2

My objective is to sleep with a woman with the least amount of effort possible. There are plenty of good reasons to not fuck on the first date Sure, and there are no good reasons to invest anything in a woman who isn't sexually attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 01:54 PM
1

Do you really think she would make Jeremy Meeks "escalate" rather than just showing up at his house naked?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 01:17 PM
3

Or maybe she's not driven purely by sex? Around men she finds attractive, yes, she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 01:16 PM
3

Until you end up shooting yourself because you blame yourself for things that are completely outside of your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 12:10 PM
9

I don't understand why women act like getting put on the "fuckboy list is a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 11:49 AM
1

If you have to escalate, she isn't attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 11:38 AM
1

Not necessarily. If a woman doesn't sleep with you immediately, she isn't into you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 11:31 AM
1

It's always great when women, who don't have to compete, tell men how all of this competition is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:59 AM
2

https://vagabondish.com/female-foreign-japan/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:56 AM
1

https://vagabondish.com/female-foreign-japan/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:56 AM
1

Whether he "confidently and respectfully" approaches her simply is based on how physically attractive he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 04:52 AM
0

And clearly if you have sex with someone you find them attractive enough for sex. I'm surprised this is difficult for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 06:10 AM
2

If you're willing to have sex with someone just to have sex (and not get anything else out of it), yes, it is sexual attraction. That's the exact definition of sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 05:24 AM
0

Wrong. Almost all women are sexually attractive to men in general. If this were not the case then how is it so easy for women to get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 02:22 AM
4

ITT: Rich people telling poor people that money really isn't that great.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 01:30 AM
-1

Almost no women are "ugly" to men in the same way that almost all men are "ugly" to almost all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 12:56 AM
-2

I'm a male, and no, it could not, as men do not hate women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 11:51 PM
5

it sucks to be the unattractive and undesired gender Except that's not true. SOME men are desired like men desire women, and the whole dynamic changes with these men, who can treat women like women treat most men. Basically, the problem is you're not attractive (Neither am I), so we don't get to see that unless we go out of our way to see how women treat attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 11:51 PM
-3

It's very, very rare, of course, but these men do exist. For instance, Jeremy Meeks. But ultimately what it means is not that women don't want casual sex. They just don't want casual sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 03:22 PM
0

Why shouldn't I hate people that don't even see me as human?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 03:21 PM
-3

It doesn't make any difference how valuable you are: most women don't want casual sex with me Fixed. All women are down for casual sex at any time if you are hot enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 03:18 PM
9

Why should I be enthusiastic about getting to put in lots of effort for high maintenance women who weigh more than I do and likely have children by other men who gave it up to those other men because he sent her a text saying "dtf?" Sure, it's a choice, but it's a choice because no option is a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 02:43 AM
1

Scarcity would only improve their odds if women found all men attractive. However, women only find a tiny percentage of men attractive (Or even consider them human), so unless you meet a physical ideal, you could be alone even if there were one hundred women for every man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 10:38 PM
5

Even if there were fewer men than women, it would still be harder for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 09:43 PM
1

They aren't. They are only passive around unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 12:02 AM
2

It's ridiculous how much better my life has gotten since I became a giant tyrannical asshole to everyone. It really makes me question whether humanity deserves to be wiped out by a gamma ray burst or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:31 AM
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It's ridiculous how much better my life has gotten since I became a giant tyrannical asshole to everyone. It really makes me question whether humanity deserves to be wiped out by a gamma ray burst or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:31 AM
4

What does the normal height for men have to do with her sexual attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:29 AM
4

Yes, because all women are looking for one-night stands at all times... with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:28 AM
4

A good man, even with ordinary looks, is valuable in the dating game. Wrong. His only value comes in the resources that women can leech from him. He has no inherent value. And all people have inherent value in today's world. Also wrong. Your value is determined by what you can offer other people that they desire. Your value can change based on the situation or the commodity being offered, but only women have inherent value in the sexual marketplace and in general given the kiddy-gloves with whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:27 AM
3

Wrong. Your value is defined in the market, and the market value for a man is clearly much, much lower than it is for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 02:05 AM
3

I can't address a point so ridiculous as one that says "People hate attractive people wahhh!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 01:26 AM
4

You are the one acting like there's some handsome people oppression going on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 01:24 AM
9

Ever post on reddit lately? Or in wider society? Calling someone an "incel" is the equivalent to saying they crush puppies in their spare time while reading Mein Kampf and joining ISIS.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 01:10 AM
1

Women aren't trophies and they don't have more value than men Yes, they do. That is literally how the human species works.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 12:59 AM
2

In America, it's 'were bad' and the incel, weirdos are the 'good guys' Hahahahahha no.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 12:58 AM
14

The entire concept of being worthy of a woman doesn't compute to me. My guess is this is because you are a woman and the only men you notice at the ones you find sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 12:56 AM
-2

On the planet where women demonstrably prefer being in a harem to an attractive man rather than even looking in the direction of a lesser.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 05:35 PM
-3

and what kind of woman would subject herself to essentially being a man's concubine? Most women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 05:33 PM
2

Not really. Most men are sexually unattractive to all women. This doesn't stop them from getting laid though, generally by providing payment in a relationship or prostitution arrangement:
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 03:25 PM
1

To be a gatekeeper of sex, you have to have sexual appeal to the your preferred sex. Most men have no sexual appeal to women no matter their intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 03:10 AM
1

You have never seen a normal looking dude with a weak chin and bad hair hanging out with his boring hipster-lite gf as they drink coffee on their phones together in cafes? That's not doing well with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 01:44 AM
2

I can tell people apart, but I also have the ability to see patterns and despite their differences in personality, all these sorts of guys who do well with women look a certain way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 12:55 AM
1

some chicks go for the sensitive artist type, some go for the stoic thoughtful types, others for the gregarious extroverts. Personality means nothing to women. What matters is what they look like, and these guys all look rather similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 10:26 PM
14

The sexual market place in the grunge rock scene is going to be completely different from the sexual market place in an ivy league university. If you think "alternative" women don't find the exact same guys sexually attractive as sorority women at Harvard then I can tell you've never been around either group.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 09:51 PM
3

Oh ok I am sure the threat of losing your house, your kids, and half your income to her isn't leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 09:30 PM
6

Pic related
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 09:05 PM
2

I'm not physically attractive, so no woman is going to want to have sex with me just to have sex with me. I'm not going to provide for them, because if I had to spend money on them I might as well sleep with a hooker who is likely to be more attractive, anyways. So it's a choice between lying and getting sex sometimes or not lying and being celibate the rest of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 09:01 PM
2

But she does still have leverage against him: the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 08:59 PM
1

I do, yes. Better shot? Doubtful. In any case, if I die, then I was morally in the wrong for being weaker, slower, or not as smart as the person who killed me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 08:57 PM
2

So... to you, there is no such thing as "good personality" for women? It's all just different shades of "bad"? Not really. I find almost all womens' company to be varying shades of unpleasant. This goes for most men, too, as I'm not a very social person in the first place. This is your motivation. It's not the motivation of the women you want to have sex with. Can you tell me what their motivation to have sex with you would even be? You seem like the kind of guy who could suck the fun out of a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 08:56 PM
4

It makes a lot of sense. All relationships are transactions. I go to work and in exchange my boss pays me. My boss has to pay me because my skills are rare and in-demand. If my boss stops paying me, I stop working. In most marriages (At least during history), the transaction is "He provides for me financially and with his resources and in exchange I have sex with him." It is an exchange of something each party has for something the other party wants. It's called leverage. The difference is now t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 08:45 PM
3

Do YOU still find a woman equally attractive if she acts awkwardly and can't present herself well? I sure don't. A hot chick who is composed and well spoken will win out hands down against a hot chick who is rude and unpleasant. Yep, because if I was turned off by women because they had bad personalities, I wouldn't ever be attracted to any women. Considering relationships are only like... 5% "having sex" and 95% "doing other things together" We're not talking about relationships. We're talking …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 08:42 PM
5

Wrong. If you are physically attractive, you can behave however you want and women will be fine with it. The opposite is true as well. If you aren't physically attractive, all behaviors become creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 08:28 PM
1

I never said they actively think about it, but once you've got his resources no matter what you do, why keep sleeping with a man you're not attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:56 PM
10

Skincare, haircare, hair removal, and so on won't make your jawline stronger, make you taller, or make you more muscular. So, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:46 PM
3

You are basically correct, these men should realize that this is how life works, not every one is in the top 20% and basically start paying for sex with the women they want. And what happens when these guys no longer have any incentive to be a part of society? The problem is that they have tied their self worth to their success with women, and they are in a very tough spot because of it. All men tie their self-worth to their success with women. It's part of being a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:43 PM
12

Nothing, because no one cares if men have problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:42 PM
3

What do your behaviors have to do with sexual attraction? Oh, nothing, that's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:41 PM
0

Being married is an incentive for a woman to have less sex with her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:40 PM
1

Women just don't like men whose personality is 'gym'. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:40 PM
0

Where does being married stipulate that you have to sleep with your husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:30 PM
8

You really have to ask why people who don't get to fulfill their deepest desire while others do simply based on the genetic lottery are bitter? Come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:16 PM
1

Possibly, and they will likely get shot for their efforts. Problem solved!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:15 PM
1

Why should I support things that do not immediately benefit me?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:14 PM
11

Yes, I'm choosing not to be a tall white dude with a strong jawline. Thank you for enlightening me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:14 PM
2

Jeremy Meeks is an awful useless guy but look how well life treats him because of the shape of his jaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 10:10 AM
0

People only really start controlling their reproduction once they are educated, encouraged, and incentivized too. I don't care about how many kids someone has if I'm not subsidizing them in any way. If a woman wants to have 5 kids by 5 different men, let her, but let her starve if she can't afford to feed them herself. Also mass starvation is incredibly inhumane. Its borderline sociopathic. Like you couldn't even suggest forced sterilization? What's the point of forced sterilization? I don't car…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:01 AM
4

He is saying that in general intelligence is a trait women select against.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 05:58 AM
9

nothing you do matters to anyone. Welcome to the life of a man
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 05:57 AM
2

That's why I am armed. In any case, if they killed me, then the failing was my own and I deserved what I got for being weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 05:51 AM
1

There wouldn't be a lot of poor desperate people if we just let them starve.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 05:50 AM
0

Also since its in society's best interest for children to be nourished, living in decent housing, and educated Not really. I'm alright with letting people's kids go hungry or homeless if a woman can't support them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 04:34 AM
2

It doesn't have anything to do with women hating men. If you check my original post I wasn't talking about women hating men. I wrote about my deep frustration with the bad situation academically young men and boys often experience.. Right, and that will never change because... people hate men. I'm discussing the topic and you are going off onto this tangent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 04:05 AM
3

What does that have to do with women hating men? You think because women sometimes love their children that they therefore love men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 03:46 AM
5

Allowed to influence society more Wrong, because womens' general instinct is outright hatred of most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 03:31 AM
6

If you don't have a mum who loves your guts then I'm pissed for you. You should have that. Everyone should have that. We're not talking about individuals. We're talking about society, and society will never care about most men nor their misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 03:13 AM
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I'd like to think that society cares enough about men to eventually force women's taxes and force legislation to help out those men that have given up on society. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 03:08 AM
3

In 50 years, we will better know how to support boys and young men but society is going to lose many fine talented young men as we don't have the support system for them and they don't have the developmental genetics to be able to compete with their female age mates. This temporary disability will break the ambition of many of these gifted individuals. No we won't, because no one will ever care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 03:00 AM
2

Aggressively showing interest as one of these guys gets you pepper sprayed or beaten up by white knights.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 08:55 PM
1

Yes, women have an intense personal dislike for short men, men without strong jawlines, men who don't have huge muscles, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 08:52 PM
1

That is different than hating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 05:40 PM
21

They don't. They have an aversion to ugly guys. It's just that ugly guys are the ones spending their teenage years fucking around on computers enough to get a passion for it to distract them from the fact that they aren't getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 05:06 AM
1

Women have always hated sexually unattractive (most) men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 02:51 AM
0

Losing entirely? Sure. If you are a legit Chad, then you can act however you want and women will want to sleep with you. If another Chad who acts more manly, however, comes along, you'll lose the women. If you don't have women pursuing you, then you should never, ever show any sort of weakness or emotion (outside of anger) to a woman you wish to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 12:40 AM
6

Nope. I don't have a social circle anyways so why would I care?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 06:53 PM
7

Because you should never do something for someone unless you are compensated in some way, and most male-female friendships are based on the woman getting vastly more value from it than the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 01:25 AM
3

It's called the halo effect. Your looks are quite literally a considerable portion of your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 10:38 PM
1

This isn't a girl's desire though. They desire boldness. They desire confidence and it can be as fake as a plastic tree. Often and more often than not they can't or don't even actualize their desires. They just go with whatever is the first guy to boldly pick them up. They rationalize their desires to fit the guy who meets those first two characteristics. Only when those traits are attached to someone with a face shaped a certain way and egregious amounts of muscle. When I'm bold and confident, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 06:14 PM
1

What does that have to do with women being picky?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 02:15 AM
2

Exhibit B
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 09:59 PM
25

I'd like her to do a /r/dataisbeautiful post showing her right swipes versus her left.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 07:35 PM
6

Wrong. All women are willing to have casual sex if you are hot enough. The difference is women are only willing to have casual sex with very attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 07:34 PM
2

Looking at their messaging stats, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 02:54 AM
6

The fact that 60% of women gave the bottom 80% of guys a chance to impress her kind of disproves the 80-20 Wrong. Looking at who women message is pointless because most of those women were bots and most bots target men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 02:20 AM
1

but once a new human is here it needs support Yep, and it can get it from the mother who decided to have the kid. If she can't do that, then why shouldn't they simply be allowed to starve?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 03:11 AM
3

I agree, hence why abortion and birth control should be made illegal. If you don't want to risk pregnancy, don't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 07:57 PM
4

Because a woman will treat you like shit if you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 06:15 AM
0

For every Steve Jobs there are a million losers sitting in prison or holding a gun to their head because they destroyed and alienated every opportunity and relationship they had. Yep, but that's because they were also stupid. It only works if you're at all smart because the other sociopaths who aren't idiots will see right through it. It's still a better way to go through life though even if you're not good at it than trying to be a man who cares about other people, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 06:14 AM
3

Just be a neckbeard, bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 04:00 AM
0

Low EQ is a detriment to getting what you want out of life consistently. Lol no Being a monster is beneficial to getting what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 02:57 AM
0

the males are generally very self-obsessive and do not have much of any regard for the feelings of others and generally display low levels of empathy. What's wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 01:43 AM
2

Women are not entitled to respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 01:41 AM
3

Apparently you've never heard of "infidelity."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 06:40 PM
1

Sure, people keep away from you, Who cares? If you are genuinely nice, then the only reason people want anything to do with you is to take advantage of you. I'll have my dignity, if nothing else. I'm a horrible person now, but at least I strive to get what I want, even if I have to step on others to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 04:15 AM
1

Not really. What's unflattering about calling someone sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 11:25 PM
1

Instead of talking responsibility, Why should he take responsibility for being ugly? That's ultimately the root cause of all his problems. Be respectful of PEOPLE is the narrative, but jerks don't want to do that. Especially not the sociopaths. Though, I do feel bad for the sociopaths. They have a disorder. Why should someone do something that not only has no benefit to them, but makes them a target as it signals weakness? And yes, the cultural narrative is far more "respect women" than it is "r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 06:59 PM
3

If he's not a jerk, it'll make him feel good Nope. eventually people will do nice things for him. Ask me how I know you're a woman. People don't just "do nice things" for guys. Unless you live in a cut throat environment where its life or death, no one "needs" to be a jerk. Yes, that's called the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 06:58 PM
1

No, because the hate towards you comes first. All guys should be assholes because acting like anything else is perceived as weakness, it's just more required for men who aren't attractive (most men) because following the cultural narrative of "just respect women bro" means you'll end up getting walked on, at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 06:54 PM
1

If Chad's there, then women are there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 06:43 PM
3

Women love "fuckboys" though. That's why they are called fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 06:42 PM
2

When a man doesn't think the world owes him something, he'll understand that being nice is rewarding in other ways. Please elaborate on how someone is rewarded, specifically, for being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 06:41 PM
9

Women don't care if you have your life together. Women will be fine going back to your box behind the Applebees dumpster if your jaw is a certain shape, you're tall, and have muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 06:09 PM
3

Why is being nice for no reward something that people should do?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 06:05 PM
1

People are going to hate you no matter what you do if you are an ugly guy, so you might as well act like a fucking asshole. Not to mention people tread more carefully around you if they think you are a psycho who will pop off in an instant, so at least they won't try and take advantage of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 06:03 PM
1

is that it's not threatening or potentially violent or creepy when women do it. Sure it is, just the women don't have to do this violence themselves (though they can of course and will get away with it with no consequences whatsoever.) If you spurn their advances, they can just use other people to commit violence against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 09:09 PM
1

Why would I care?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 05:05 AM
27

You mean women will dehumanize men? Tell me it ain't so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 08:10 PM
25

It's not terrible for women. Women prefer being part of a highly attractive man's harem over being around a normal man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 07:47 PM
2

Nope. Go spend some time around some attractive men if you think women are passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 06:11 AM
0

It's not reactive, though, and if you have to approach a woman she doesn't find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 04:16 AM
0

We don’t even know how she deals with empty bios - most women swipe left on them. lol Tell that to the Chadfish account that I made that had no bio but some hot pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 05:13 PM
1

If all men were selective, them every guy would be better off. Why do people repeat this nonsense? If all men were selective, nothing would change because 90% of men don't even register as men to women, and the men that women want are already selective because they have tons and tons of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 05:09 PM
2

The more important question is "why should we care if it is?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 05:02 PM
4

Yes, you let her drag you through the divorce/family court shitshow...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 05:33 AM
6

That's silly, because as soon as you're married she can exploit you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 04:05 AM
1

And that was all my future had anyways, since I was groomed from an early age to be a good beta provider for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 02:53 AM
8

Nope. I was fucking miserable before. I'm fucking miserable after. But at least I won't let anyone take advantage of me anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:59 AM
5

Marksmanship does require practice, but natural talent is a real thing, and there's baked-in temper stuff. Same as with any other sport. My second time shooting, my coach was sure I'd done it more, or at least used that kind of weapon. No, not really. Outside of your eyes being shit or having unsteady hands, it is pretty much all practice. I'm a good marksman because I practice, and I practice often. I was a terrible shot when I started, but I've been doing it for several decades. It's like almo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 09:46 PM
7

Marksmanship is not something you are simply "good" at. It is something you practice, and it is something that more men practice at than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 09:26 PM
8

Only when judging men. Average women have more suitors than they can count, so clearly they aren't unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 07:51 PM
0

What exactly can you do with that information? Learning to hate women is a good start. That will at least get you out of beta orbiter or gamer girl bathwater status, which will at least preserve some of your dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 07:01 PM
9

And even more importantly, men are realizing that "average" to a woman is "hideous."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 06:54 PM
1

What is unethical? What is ethical? Who or what defines an objective standard of ethics that we all have to adhere to? I act in ways that are conventionally considered unethical, because -my- ethical guidelines are very simple: if it benefits me, then it is ethical. If it does not benefit me, then it is unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 04:54 PM
0

"Hey guys just select for women who are one in a million but also have the same sexuality as every other woman!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 04:52 PM
1

Not only that, but women who reject social norms still have the exact same sexual preferences as every other woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 04:45 PM
0

Lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 01:01 PM
19

ITT: A lot of rationalizations why this isn't a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 05:20 AM
5

What do a woman's words have to do with reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 10:05 PM
3

You might have a point if women viewed men who were good for the world at large rather than violent criminals with strong jawlines as sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 04:15 AM
1

Why would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 04:14 AM
1

But she also wanted to audit his masturbation fantasies to ensure he was respecting wymyn lol wat
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 01:59 AM
1

Men don't care about her psyche for relationships either. If we hated women with mental problems we'd just never bother with any woman. And yes, women have default value. That's why people naturally care more when something bad happens to a woman. Cue the "1/4 of homeless people are women" poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 03:54 PM
1

Wrong. Mental issues do not lower her desirability, as that is solely her physical appearance. Womens' mental issues are accepted because weakness is considered feminine. Feminine women are okay. Feminine men are not. Additionally, all women have inherent value while men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 02:53 PM
1

Congratulations on being attractive I guess? I hope you can understand though that your experiences are not normal for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 02:52 PM
1

Yes, in the eyes of women, almost all men are ugly. bachelorette parties I work Uhh wat
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 05:01 AM
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People definitely care about womens' problems, regardless of their appearance or age. These women might get less "care" than young, attractive women, but they still get some. On the other hand, no one gives a fuck about any man's problem, and the fact that a man even has problems lowers said man's status.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 01:21 AM
10

Do it the right way and romance a woman or I'm just going to continue to ignore the plight of today's men. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 01:10 AM
1

Most guys will never have a woman check them out in their lives, though, so why would they even realize that they desire this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 12:55 AM
7

They only expect that from ugly guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:56 PM
30

People can and will keep waving away men's problems indefinitely, sorry. No one ever has and never will care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:53 PM
4

It's easy to be violent when you know it's illegal for someone to break your nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 05:06 AM
1

Occasionally, yes, and this is a symptom of the much wider problem in our society of women not facing consequences for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 03:06 AM
6

Women can't control their sexual urges. Women often are not punished harshly for doing it. I'd bet it's not more common now, but it's just more common for us to hear about it and much more common for people to get caught thanks to communication technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 07:27 PM
1

Who says that? Women, red pill people, society in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 06:44 AM
2

Women actually approach just as often as men. The difference is men approach all women but women only approach the same tiny percentage of really hot men. So, if a woman doesn't approach you, she doesn't find you sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 06:05 AM
1

Yet he hasn't gotten away with his behavior. Everyone knows he is a violent felon, yet women will go to absurd lengths to excuse it because of the shape of his face.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 03:35 AM
1

I imagine he is very smooth. That doesn't detract from the fact that he's an awful person which is conveniently ignored by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 03:20 AM
1

And? Women will fuck you for other reasons than they think you're hot, but if you're not hot, you have to pay for it. I'm a 1/10 and I could fuck an 18 year old model tonight, but she ain't doing it for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 03:19 AM
1

These women wanted to fuck him before he rose up to high society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 03:19 AM
1

Why not? Have you ever met criminals? Do you think they have soevial abnormal criminal personalities? Yep. I'm not turned on by people who beat children or commit robberies, unlike women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 03:18 AM
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No one says that men care about womens' personalities. On the other hand, a lot of people say that women care about mens' personalities and that if a man is alone, it's because he's a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 03:17 AM
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And what it shows is that your social status has nothing to do with your sexual attractiveness to women. Look at the women in this thread falling over themselves to justify the guy's actions despite the fact that the world would be a considerably better place had Meeks been executed by firing squad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 01:00 AM
2

Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 12:57 AM
4

Yes, I am sure a guy that beats children and robs people is "fun to be around."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 12:57 AM
1

Well, yes, he's sexually attractive so of course he's going to come across as better than normal people. I fail to see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 11:58 PM
1

Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 11:58 PM
3

Generally being a violent criminal who associates with other violent murderous criminals (Since he was in the Crips, apparently) is indicative of being a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 11:49 PM
6

"In 2002, Meeks was charged with robbery and corporal injury to a child." But that didn't stop every woman in the world from wetting her pants over him, and for him to go from a convicted felon to getting the entire world handed to him on a platter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 11:44 PM
1

Laughs in Jeremy Meeks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 11:41 PM
3

So you took a decent picture but when they saw how you actually looked in real life they realized you're actually ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 11:31 PM
1

If you can consistently get that, then that's your market value. The way to determine how your attractiveness ranks among other people is to get their market values and then compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 11:30 PM
0

Doesn't mean you cannot get lucky. If women don't want to immediately fuck you, then you're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 11:12 PM
5

So you're doing the equivalent of a fat girl angle shot?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 11:03 PM
8

Then you don't look nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 10:50 PM
2

The market rate of an hour of your sexual attention. That varies on the area, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 10:42 PM
4

Wrong. The only thing that determines your SMV to a woman is how you look, since your SMV is whether or not a woman will fuck you just for the sake of fucking you. Women aren't attracted to rich guys. They are attracted to rich guy's money. That's an important difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 10:38 PM
1

However, even when it comes to criminals, most women would not fuck them, except in unique circumstances. "Hello, I beg to differ."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 10:33 PM
1

Sure, she can back out at any time, and I'll just show her the door as soon as she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 07:27 AM
3

Sure, until a guy comes in with a gun and then all of a sudden he runs the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 07:26 AM
1

They shouldn't be shamed. The leech-mother and her leech-children should simply be allowed to starve.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 05:21 AM
1

Go hang around some actual attractive men and get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 06:56 AM
1

Except that's not true, at all. Women approach men as often as men approach women. The difference is men approach all women, where women all approach the same tiny percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 06:09 AM
2

Being an asshole is only attractive once you are physically attractive. A physically attractive man who beats a woman and has a few felonies is going to be more attractive to women than that same man without the violence or criminal record.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 04:13 AM
1

Creep just means physically unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 12:28 AM
1

People in general are good at lying to themselves so effectively that they believe their own bullshit. The difference is that the world will beat the truth into men but doesn't do the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 03:58 AM
0

Wrong. That attraction lasts as long as you are a jackass to her and have great big muscles. The problem is that the guys who have those traits also don't want to marry most women so women end up marrying guys they don't find attractive out of social pressure and for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 03:57 AM
1

I got hit on by a gay guy once, and that's the only time in my life anyone has ever made an explicit advance on me. I wasn't interested, but I was still genuinely flattered. I was fine being a sexual object for said man. Also... I get along with gay guys fine, too. Better than I get along with women, generally. Of course I'm not a coward who is terrified of everything in life like most women so maybe that's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 12:44 AM
1

They are paying for attention from a woman, not her nudes. From what I understand, a lot of it is personalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 05:10 AM
2

But clearly it was enough in his case, so, yes, if it doesn't work for you it's because you aren't handsome enough. It's only exceptional because women have such high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 09:33 PM
5

Laughs in Jeremy Meeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 09:15 PM
4

badly people are socialized these days due to being online. That has nothing to do with the issue. If these guys grew up online but were sexually attractive, then they wouldn't need to orbit e-girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 09:01 PM
5

Or, more likely, you just don't know about his struggles with women because he's not stupid enough to admit weakness in front of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 06:57 PM
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It's pathetic, and it will only grow more common as the standards of women continue to skyrocket and access to sex continues to grow rarer for all but the top percentage of men. These guys need someone to smack the shit out of them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 06:51 PM
5

How do you know they aren't? Because they told you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 08:19 AM
7

Your interests or professions have nothing to do with whether you are Chad. What does matter is your height, your build, your jawline, and all those other immutable characteristics. If you have the right looks, you can sit at home playing with your anime figurines while posting on braincels and women will be desperately trying to kick down your door to get to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 08:18 AM
2

You mean women are willing to trade access to their sexuality in exchange for resources? Hmmm... I see a business opportunity here. Surely no one has thought of this before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 08:16 AM
7

you clearly need to go chadfishing if you actually believe that tripe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 04:38 AM
1

Women don't need a mental connection either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 01:48 AM
1

Toxic masculinity exists because women unwillingly encourage it. Pretty much. It's amazing how much better my life got once I started acting like a toxic asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 10:44 PM
1

And that is why it is important to tell men that, no, women will never love you for who you are, and yes, women primarily care about your physical appearance when it comes to sexual attraction. We should tell people and let them make their own decision as to whether it's worth staying on the hamster wheel. I imagine many won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 10:43 PM
1

Implicates me in what? Pretty sure sleeping with a girl then not wanting anything to do with her is perfectly legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 02:28 AM
1

Yep. I've had people try it with me before, too, and somehow it doesn't bother me in the slightest. Part of being an adult is not worrying about what others say or do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 02:12 AM
2

Let her spread rumors on social media that I don't use, to people I don't care about. That's even if she has my real name or contact information in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 11:37 PM
-1

Why is it a headache? I block her and then problem solved. I don't care whether I'm seen with them. I fuck them because I want to, and she happened to be the one at the best intersection of attractive and availability. As long as I get that, the woman can fall off a cliff or have a heart attack and die for all I care about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 11:23 PM
-2

It's only drama if I care about what she thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 08:17 PM
-4

Leave. She isn't entitled to any affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 06:38 PM
0

Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 06:34 PM
3

I'm going to guess you are not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 06:32 PM
1

You've clearly never spent any time around attractive men if you believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 02:38 PM
1

Because if women are attracted to you, they will approach you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 01:10 AM
2

If she is held up to her end of the bargain like I would be mine, sure. Doesn't work like that in real life. Additionally the cost of keeping her around would need to be less than the price of a equivalent looking prostitute otherwise why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 07:29 PM
1

As long as those men are attractive, no, there isn't. Most men are unattractive though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 10:29 PM
1

Yep. That's why I make sure to get it checked periodically. I really hate children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:22 AM
3

You are awfully certain of something based off very imperfect evidence. when there is no reason to believe they have done said awful thing. What's it that people always saw when interviewed on the news about a murderer? "I never would have believed he could do such a thing!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 12:42 AM
2

Yes, negatives are difficult to prove, which is why I am wondering how you think you can do so easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 12:37 AM
3

It is extremely bizarre to say you know something for sure without any proof, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 12:24 AM
2

If your stance is to wander around saying “I don’t know [insert name of every human in my life] isn’t a murderer.” I guess that’s your business? Yes, because I don't know. They may be, they may not be. I can assume that they aren't, or trust that they aren't, but that is different from knowing. Go ahead and test your children. I'd just laugh at any woman who said I got her pregnant before dropping her completely as I've been snipped anyways. I still think all children should be tested, though, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 12:22 AM
4

I know my husband has never murdered anyone even though I have not watched him at all times. What is your proof of this assertion? I know his character, I know his aversion to violence and I know he can’t make a peanut butter sandwich without leaving a crime scene so he’d definitely get caught trying hide a body. Thus, I know he hasn’t killed anyone. You don't have to be a normally violent person to kill someone. So, what you really do is believe that your husband has not murdered anyone, which …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 12:08 AM
2

How can your husband know that you haven't, if he hasn't been watching you at all times? Outside of that, there is no objective proof of your fidelity. He can believe you haven't, but that is different than actually knowing for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:54 PM
4

No- he knows I have not had sex with anyone else. That doesn’t require chaperones or chastity belts. So your husband supervises you every minute of your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:50 PM
1

You aren't going to be sleeping with her for much longer, if at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 07:23 PM
1

If you are a woman, sure. If you are a man, no. You should never show any weakness to a woman you wish to continue fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:54 PM
1

The best part about Chadfishing is you can do it to see for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:08 PM
1

There's no such thing as default value. Value itself is a societal construct No, it's not. Value is simply whether someone will pay for something, and if so, how much. In that case, female sexuality has value by default because any woman can sell access to her sexuality, often for a lot of money. You're acting like demand is permanently inflexible and that's just not true. In the sexual marketplace, demand for women is pretty much unlimited (Or as close enough), hence why access to their sexuali…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:28 AM
3

but that isn't a reflection of intrinsic values but varying standards. No, it is. Value is determined by the buyer. If no one buys your product, then it has no value. Women have value by default, because their sexuality has value by default. The fact that any woman can open Tinder and have hundreds or thousands of suitors whereas almost no man can is a pretty stark indication of these differences. Too many desperate men will put up with shit they shouldn't from abuse to neglect to lukewarm commi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 05:23 AM
0

It's not a pity. Women don't have to strive to be anything to acquire sex because women acquire sex simply because they are women. Men are the ones who are sexually selected for or against, hence, why our entire existence is based around acquiring sex. We actually have to work at it, and we also have much higher sex drives. Without our sex drives, we don't bother doing anything. So, civilization is essentially just a bunch of men trying to get laid in one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 05:20 AM
7

Open up Tinder as an average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 04:32 AM
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> Sure, if humans are simply animals and make life decisions on the basis of maximizing fucks. Male humans, especially younger ones, most certainly do. I'm simply challenging your assertion that men care at all about being productive, independent, and well-integrated. They don't. They only care when doing so is the most efficient way of getting access to sex. It isn't any longer, so, beyond cultural inertia, there is no reason for men to try at it anymore when they should be hitting the gym and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 04:30 AM
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They don't want to fuck said "tribal chief." They just want his stuff and his protection. They exchange sex to get it. It's no different than a prostitute and her customer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 03:18 AM
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They want their money and their status. If they could get that without the man, then they would. On the other hand, women want to fuck Jeremy Meeks simply to fuck Jeremy Meeks. You can't take the man himself out of the equation and still expect to see women involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 03:06 AM
1

Yet ultimately the transaction is the same: women will exchange access to her sexuality for the man's resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:12 AM
1

So are you also going to imply that prostitutes are sexually attracted to their johns? Because the situation is not really any different. It's a business transaction. If you don't look like Jeremy Meeks, you really can't expect any more out of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:00 AM
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Then that's not considering them attractive Yes, that's what I said. Women don't find money or power sexually attractive. However, they are willing to trade access to sex for access to money/power.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:46 AM
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You know what people want even if they have money? More money. And if you could take half of someone's money when you decide you're bored with them, why wouldn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 11:35 PM
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They are attracted to the money and power of the older guys. They most likely don't find them sexually attractive, though. To a woman, the ideal age (in terms of sexuality, at least), is roughly the same as how men view women. After all, it's hard to get jacked to the level that modern women require when you aren't in your early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 11:34 PM
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If you aren't sexually attractive, that's what women think your entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 11:18 PM
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The existential objective of a 20-something year old male has ALWAYS been to establish himself as a productive, independent, and well integrated individual. Wrong. The existential objective of a 20-something year old male has ALWAYS been to fuck, preferably as many women as often as possible. In the past, the best way to get laid was to have a career so you could provide for a wife. Now the best way to get laid is shove as many steroids into your body as you can, spend all day in the gym, get a …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 09:17 PM
1

Yes, which is a big problem. As women are equal now, then they should be treated like men in all aspects of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 07:17 PM
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Lots of excuses for being cowards ITT.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 06:32 PM
1

women aren't really a "reward" In the past, they were. Women couldn't make a living for themselves, so if you survived long enough and could provide for one, you'd probably get a wife. Now, women don't need the only thing that most men were good for in their eyes. And that reward is the only reason most men do anything. Plus, sexual access now is even higher than it was x years ago. Yes, if you are physically attractive, which most men are not and cannot be. The only logical option for most men …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 05:49 PM
2

There has to be a reward for doing so. In the past, the reward was sexual access to women. Now, there is no reward for doing so, so why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 05:26 PM
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I don't think they are lying. Lying requires you to say something you consciously know to be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 02:05 AM
1

Never said that. I just think it's important to clear up the misconception that women don't initiate. A lot of guys believe this as they've never seen the other side of female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 09:45 PM
2

American women also say that women ask men out, which is true. It's just they only ask out Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 08:23 PM
1

Then those guys likely weren't actually attractive or you didn't spend much time around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 05:20 AM
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It's rare, yes, because women find most men inherently sexually unattractive. You can't make what appears to be a pile of shit attractive no matter how many neat photo tricks you use.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 05:19 AM
1

To a woman, there is no difference between ugly and average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 04:25 AM
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Wait if you think someone is hot, barring shyness or fear of rejection (mental weakness), why don't y'all go up and start a conversation? Women do. Go hang around a legitimate Chad or two and see how differently women act. They become the equivalent of teenage boys seeing their first pair of tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 04:25 AM
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That's why every woman in the world creamed herself over Jeremy Meeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 04:22 AM
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If she's doesn't fuck you immediately or close to immediately then she isn't sexually attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 06:42 PM
1

I agree. Separate but equal is a great doctrine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 05:17 PM
1

Women don't make men they find sexually attractive change, so why should I allow them to treat me worse just because my jaw is not shaped a certain way? PS: Women aren't going to find me sexually attractive no matter how I decorate my living space.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 12:22 AM
1

That's ok. I'll rent a hotel room if I want to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 12:20 AM
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I have plenty of agency in my surroundings. If I wanted them to change, then they would change. I just don't care and am perfectly happy with my piles of equipment, workbenches, computers, clutter, and no decorations. I don't have a partner, either, and I'd tell any woman who tried to change it to jump off a bridge. I don't do things on other people's terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 11:34 PM
1

Nothing wrong with that, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 11:31 PM
2

I don't find any fulfillment or derive any of my identity from my living space. Why should I?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 11:28 PM
0

If women want to be treated as equals to men, then we should treat them like we treat men. In this case, we should tell them to shit up because no one cares, as that's what we do to men with problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 04:52 PM
1

You were making a claim so surely it shouldn't be hard to simply list a few, because I definitely can tell you some benefits to being a sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 02:43 AM
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It's easier to get over it when you have thousands of other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 02:35 AM
2

Poor logic. Just because you can find women willing to sleep with a hot sociopath doesn’t mean a random woman picked out of a bar crowd is dtf a hot sociopath. That's true, but random women picked out a bar crowd are definitely down to fuck a hot sociopath, so that part is also true as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 02:06 AM
2

What do words matter if actions don't bear them out?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 02:05 AM
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They certainly weren't ugly. "Weren't ugly" to a woman does not mean they were sexually attractive, clearly, because neither of them got laid. Neither chick was actually DTF to begin with. Women are always DTF if you are hot enough, so their problem is that they weren't hot enough. Don't believe me? Do some Chadfishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 01:17 AM
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He isn't risking anything because few if any women are going to turn him down or risk access to him by making an issue of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 02:52 PM
1

Lots of these wars weren't really wars as we have in the modern sense. Violence was endemic in all human societies up until very recently. After all, of you can bludgeon a man to death in the woods and get away with it most likely, people will. You also had constant, low-level raiding and skirmishing that always went on in addition to the wars. Lets not forget the dangers of manual labor, too, which most people were involved in. Oh and don't forget people didn't have the same concept of rules of…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 05:56 AM
1

No, only with unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 04:55 AM
1

Which is true, as armies up until the 1300s-1400s were largely made up of militia in their various forms (IE: Peasants) throughout Europe. You don't really see professional soldiers outside of the very small noble class before that. So, yes, he is correct, though there weren't "hordes" of peasants dying because armies were relatively small, but I imagine the ratio of peasants dead versus noblemen dead was pretty lopsided.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 04:54 AM
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Because women don't risk anything in it at all so they have no reason not to pursue the workplace Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 04:45 AM
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Young men aren't any more gullible. The difference is that gullible men get screwed over and little else, whereas gullible women get stuff handed to them because they are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 10:50 PM
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Very common, but unless you're a woman or a very attractive guy, it's a really stupid thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 10:45 PM
2

The only ones who don't have sugar daddies are the ones who don't want sugar daddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 10:44 PM
1

What are the upsides to being highly empathetic?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 06:06 AM
2

So why would a woman do that when any woman can hop on Tinder and get a sugar daddy tonight that will fly her wherever she wants to go?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 11:31 PM
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I'm not disagreeing. I am just saying that most women aren't talking about this as that would take them out of their safe zone which is terrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 11:28 PM
3

I am sure all those basic spoiled women meant your definition rather than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 11:20 PM
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Getting on a plane and spending time at a resort does not make a personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 11:02 PM
1

Yeah. They have barred cells and guys with guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 09:06 PM
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It's more rare since women are less sexual Haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 08:16 PM
2

Yes, they are called prisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 08:15 PM
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Being 6'4" with a BMI of -2 and shoulders roughly 4x the circumference of my hips. Don't forget being able to bench press 700 lbs because that is the minimum weight of your date, too!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 06:36 PM
1

...and one of the general criticisms of incels is that their personalities suck, which means that the claim is "If incels didn't hate women, they could get laid."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 06:35 PM
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Never said I was. It just sounded like you were making the silly argument that being a misogynist asshole somehow makes women not like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 05:46 PM
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The whole point about having those dark triad traits is you can manipulate people into thinking what you want. Let's also not get intovthe whole halo effect thing where you interpret people's personalities as good just because they are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 04:41 PM
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What does hating women have to do with sleeping with them? Now that I generally hate women, I find it much easier to treat them like crap. Thidsmeans I also have an easier time sleeping with them than I did in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 04:39 PM
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Yeah. It also fucked my stomach up. Heartburn bad enough I couldn't sleep. Mind you I was a 20 year old man at the time, too so even without them I was horny most of the time. I've had all sorts of crazy and inexplicable side effects from psychiatric medicines. So I just stopped taking them. If I'm not strong enough to resist the urge to kill myself without them, then it's better if I get it over with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 05:08 PM
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If you aren't a woman or a sexually attractive man, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 04:45 PM
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They don't all kill libido in everyone. One of them I took both increased mine and made it impossible to orgasm too. That was unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 04:44 PM
1

Women don't like to or want to lead anything, in almost all cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 04:06 AM
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There are no men who don't work out but who are also sexually attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 11:52 PM
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Wrong. Women love some male bodies like men love almost all female bodies. Spend some time around legitimately attractive men if you don't believe women find some male bodies attractive. The thing is those men are generally on steroids and blessed by genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 11:03 PM
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Nah, women have agency and clearly don't care about this in any other part of life so, bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 08:14 PM
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I remember laughing my ass off at a thread a while back when all the women here claimed that the reason they didn't immediately fuck some guys is that they really liked them.0
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 04:10 PM
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Because you don't have a choice if you want to get one of your most basic needs fulfilled. Welcome to being a man. He should just do what works for him. Being a caring simp works for no one unless you're really physically attractive. Why not just embrace the sensitive lifestyle? Being sensitive in general is a bad thing for a man. A woman can get away with it, but to succeed in life a man has to be ready to step on anyone and everyone to get what he wants because no one will give you anything un…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 01:21 AM
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Wrong. They value commitment from sexually attractive men. The same tiny percentage of men that all women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 09:36 PM
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In the past, yes. Now? Not so much. Your chains are likely only in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 08:20 PM
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IDK, because the education I got as home told me to treat people with decency and to generally "do unto others as you'd have them do unto you"? Yeah, I did too. Then I got out into the real world where using that strategy just means people constantly take advantage of you and no one who says they believe in it actually lives by it so why even bother? My life has gotten much better ever since I stopped worrying about treating people how I wanted to be treated and instead just took whatever I want…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 08:15 PM
1

You shouldn't feel sad. Humanity is generally awful and we instinctively love doing awful things to each other so why get sad over it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 07:31 PM
1

Why risk going outside when lightning my strike you! As I said many times over, it is a very very unlikely thing to happen, so I'm not going to worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 07:31 PM
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If you're a sensitive guy who gets attached and feels heartbroken letting go of someone, why would you ever try to run through 30-50 women? Because men are capable of changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 06:53 PM
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Yes, it should be treated exactly the same way if women are considered to be equal to men. No, it will never be treated the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 06:40 PM
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Sure. It's like any other sort of sensation. You have to inure yourself to it by exposing yourself to it. That's how it worked for me, at least. Now I don't really feel anything anymore which is nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 06:39 PM
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Of course I wouldn't like it if it happened to me, but I don't abide by the rule "do unto others" nor do I plan on getting married or having a relationship with a woman exactly because of it. I just don't care if it happens to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 06:36 PM
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Yes, and that is because women are generally irrational cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 06:35 PM
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Getting hit by a car is much more likely than some guy shooting me because I fooled around with his wife. Taking reasonable precaution seems like common sense to me. Yes, my reasonable precaution is owning a gun, knowing how to use it, and staying aware of the situation. Also, a jilted spouse gone off their rocks is a far more common occurrence than lightning striking a human being. The likelihood of being murdered is pretty low. It's not a 1:1 ratio between unfaithful wives and murderous husban…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 04:21 AM
1

Do you have to take days off work because you're terrified of a meteorite hitting your car or being struck by lightning?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 04:04 AM
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That rarely happens so while it is certainly a risk, I am not worried about it. If you let any possible risk dissuade you from reaching out to take what you want then you'll never get anything out of life. And you should own a gun for that exact reason, in any case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 03:54 AM
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You don't have to care about what other people think to have a moral compass. Yes, you do. People generally let others set their moral compass for them which is what you're doing. And I'm pretty sure getting shot in the face cuz some dude found out you were fucking hus wife qualifies as drama So... buy a gun yourself. Also most people are cowards so it is extremely unlikely to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 02:17 AM
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It's only drama if you care about what other people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 02:01 AM
2

Good or evil doesn't matter. All that matters is getting what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 01:23 AM
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If she's gonna cheat she's gonna cheat, and the important part is: if I can benefit from it, I should.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 01:08 AM
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Yep. In an instant. I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 12:54 AM
1

I don't think this is always the case 'cos there's simply not enough really hot men to go around. Why do you think there is a limit on the number of women who can chase after one hot guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 08:27 PM
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Pretty much. I wasted so much of my youth orbiting girls because I listened to what women said they want (I want a guy who is nice to me!) instead of looking at what women do (I want a guy with a sharp jawline who beats me when he's been drinking!) It was my mistake but I won't do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 08:24 PM
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If you think women are subtle when they find someone sexually attractive, you've never been around men who women find sexually attractive. Go make a Chadfish Tinder and see how "subtle" women can be. If they are being subtle with you, it just means they aren't attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 08:22 PM
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No women are as retarded as everyone else and if it were real women wouldn't coincidentally all end up with the good looking sociopaths who beat them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/19 11:08 AM
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I'm a dude: Be nice! Be yourself! Treat women well! Women don't care about looks so just work on your career! You can imagine how well all that worked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/19 03:16 AM
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Bullshit. I'm not bothering to chase women because the only ones I can get weigh more than I do but require a lot of effort on my part to bed them. If it takes a lot of work on my part to get at best starfish sex from a planetoid I'll just save the effort and not try,
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 12:12 AM
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Bullshit. These women are invisible to the top guys, which are the only guys they want. They are not st all invisible to men as s population.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 04:53 PM
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When I do something, the objective is to show them why they should not do it again. Breaking someone's nose is a very effective lesson. In any case, we are getting off topic. Women are the root cause of toxic masculinity. If women found sweet, kind, and gentle men sexually attractive, then men would do that. Unfortunately, women only find sociopaths and serial killers to be sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 04:10 AM
1

It sounds like you're just sexually unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 01:19 AM
1

Why would you ever listen to the words of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 01:18 AM
1

Why would a woman watch porn when she can fire up Tinder and be living it before the hour is over?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 01:15 AM
1

Jeremy Meeks took that idiotic idea out back and shot it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 01:11 AM
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Nope. Depending on the severity of what they did, I'd either ignore it, cut them out of my friend group, or knock their teeth out. I don't need them. In any case, don't sidestep the issue. Women reward "toxic" behavior so why would guys stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 12:56 AM
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Nope. Why would I care what men think? On the other hand, I certainly care what women think because they have one of the things that I and most men desire more than pretty much anything else. Tidr: if women want men to change, then stop fucking hot sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 11:45 PM
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Masculinity is required for all men and men are monitored for unmasculine behaviors. This policing is done by women, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 11:07 PM
1

Too bad empathy is bad for attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 04:36 PM
1

Ask me how I know you've never spent any time around attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 11:05 PM
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Pbullshit. No one feels empathy for men:
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 11:04 PM
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The point is that all things are forgiven, as long as you are good-looking. Who wouldn't want to live a life like his? And that's how the world rewards being a complete scumbag. So yes, I would love to be so handsome so that I am not forced to struggle to get what I need because of mere genetic chance. Fighting the opposite of the halo effect all your life is exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 06:36 AM
1

Yes. Nothing else really matters in life. For example: Jeremy Meeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 06:04 AM
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Are you a woman? If so, it's better than it's ever been in human history for you. You have unlimited numbers of men willing to give you whatever you want for a sniff of sex. Are you a hot guy? It's great. All women are just a right swipe on tinder away for an instant pump and dump. Are you 90% of men? You're fighting hundreds or thousands of guys for access to even a 4/10 woman so have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 04:50 AM
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No, men tolerate fat women because a hole's a hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 01:39 AM
2

Women love being pumped and dumped though, so why would they be wary?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 01:32 AM
1

Wat
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 04:20 PM
1

Status, Wealth and Power have heavy weights on your success with relationships and sex. That has nothing to do with how sexually attractive women find you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 09:05 PM
1

Male SMV and RMV are related to their jobs as they are sources of status, power and wealth. No, they aren't. That only matters if you're sexually unattractive. Chad can spend his life mooching off women and as long as he's jacked and was fortunate enough to be born with broad shoulders and a square jaw, women will be perfectly satisfied to let him do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 07:19 PM
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They want lavish gestures and romantic expensive weddings. Wrong. They only want that from sexually unattractive men. Chad can offer to fuck her behind the dumpster of a Waffle House and she'll act like he offered her an expensive vacation to the French countryside.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 07:15 PM
1

Because in our society, men are held responsible for everything that happens to them while women are held responsible for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 05:29 PM
2

Except it's true. You just have to be physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 01:10 AM
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This could be either a good or bad thing depending on who you ask but I personally see it as a positive. Every new geration of men is freer to do as they please and live for themselves instead of doing everything they can to be useful to the system and women. I wish I lived in the fake reality where you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 12:06 AM
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I agree as long as we do not insulate women from the consequences of their decisions. If a woman hooks up with Chad who leaves her with some kids and vanishes, she and her children should be allowed to starve and only told "Well maybe you shouldn't have fucked a guy who has kids by eight different women." If a woman hooks up with a violent guy because violent guys turn her on and then he decides to beat her, she should receive no help from anyone if she is not able to resolve this on her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 12:01 AM
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He’s been pushed over the edge by? Women, immigrant 7/11 cashiers and strangers who don’t owe him any money? Probably by being treated like shit because he's a short, low-value man. seeking to dominate, intimidate, and exert authority in order to feel powerful. That's called humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 04:31 AM
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I did. You're assuming that no one has any sympathy for people with mental illness, which is untrue. That, and I don't think it's fair to call it mental illness when he's clearly been pushed over the edge by a society that obviously sees him as completely worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 02:41 AM
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The rest of us maybe don’t have sympathy for it or appreciate it, because we’re not walking in their shoes. No one has sympathy for it because not only is he a man, which means no one gives a fuck if he has problems, but he's also a sexually unattractive man which makes it even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 02:33 AM
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No. People only care about those who have value. Women have value by default. Men do not have value outside of their economic output unless they are ridiculously attractive, thus, no one will ever care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 12:27 AM
1

Which they will, if you are physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 12:25 AM
3

You only need money for dates if you're unattractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 11:24 PM
2

I think I put forth effort and should be treated well in return. Why? Why does your effort entitle you to action on the part of other human beings? I can recall plenty of men who say "I'm nice and have a good job so women should like me" and the fallout from those statements. No one deserves to be treated well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 04:54 AM
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I used to interact with many, but then I realized that they added nothing to my life so I cut them all out and now maybe talk to a woman once every six months.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 10:35 PM
1

If you want to deny the fundamental nature of the world, that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 09:02 PM
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A female:male ratio doesn't matter, as most men are completely invisible to women. If you put 1 woman on an island with 100 ugly men, she'd be writing articles saying "Where are all the men???"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:56 PM
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Once you get the job, you just do your job. Yep, until one of the people in your department looking for a leg up sells you out so they can get ahead. Or until your skills become outdated, the company restructures, and you're tossed onto the street. Competition is dependent on the structure of that particular work place. No, competition is inherent to capitalism. You are competing against EVERYONE in your field. If someone can do your job cheaper and better than you, then you're getting fired. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:53 PM
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Yes. Money matters to everyone but money isn't sexually attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:48 PM
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All of them, of course. You're constantly competing against everyone else in your professional field for a limited amount of possible positions and wages, for example. And you'll lose your house if you happen to be married and a guy who has muscles and a strong jawline walks within your wife's sight, as another example.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:43 PM
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Then you'll be left behind and lose what you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:06 PM
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If you don't know that there is a competition, it probably means you are losing the competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 07:40 PM
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If you don't believe competition is in all parts of life, have you stepped outside recently?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 07:32 PM
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The men that get that bitter are really ugly, so it makes sense that you push them out of your social circle or never allow them to enter it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 07:31 PM
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It's only entitlement when men want something. Get that through your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 07:54 AM
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If you have to flirt with her, she isn't sexually attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 11:24 PM
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Everyone's got to make a living, but the men who patronize her are uniformly pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:10 PM
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But equality is changing things and many women are starting to see how it is to only be valued for how you perform and nothing else. No, it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:29 PM
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Right, no woman finds a non-dominant man without a ripped body sexually attractive. They date these men because the men they actually want are desired by all women, and thus have no reason to actually "date" anyone, at least in the sense of being monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:26 PM
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What does dating them have to do with finding them sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:23 PM
1

You're likely going to lose your hair anyways, so get money and get a hair transplant while juicing. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:19 PM
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but I responded by working on being a more well-rounded and friendly person and learning to make friends. Women don't care about any of that, at least when it comes to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 07:34 PM
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That "Initiator" term is what I used and what I meant, and it doesn't equivocate to men 99.99% of the time to anyone but you. Are you really going to try and deny that the initiator is in almost all situations the man? There's a hell of a lot of shades of grey No, there's not. Hell, I could respect you saying "Yeah it's not fair but I can get guys to do it so why wouldn't I?" Hell, I try to do the same thing by acting like I have money and that I'm looking for a woman to provide for (I'm not.) b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 07:32 PM
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I did. You said the initiator should pay. In 99.9% of instances, the initiator is a man. So, what you are saying is the man should almost always pay. Life is not fair, nobody said it was. No, it's not, but if you want to say that it's a "a pretty "fair" view", as you said, then maybe you should say something that is actually fair. But fucking appreciate the little things steps in the right direction What little steps? There is no change. Men in the past paid. Men with your view will pay. What's …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 07:07 PM
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I don't care. Why would I care? All I care about as a person who is not rich are wages.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 07:05 PM
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Then what are you saying? Because on a practical level, that is what you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:53 PM
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What does this conversation have to do with how things can be shitty for women? The answer is "nothing." All you're saying is "I think men should pay all the time because they are men." but trying to dress it up like something else because even at some level you are aware of the unfairness of what you're saying but want to justify it anyways because hey free stuff for being a woman!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:47 PM
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All that really matters is your physical appearance, so there are two things you need to do: Make more money. You'll need this for the required cosmetic surgery if your face isn't up to even low-tier women's standards. You can get things like jaw implants that will make your face actually look attractive. You'll also need it for the second part. Hit the gym. Pretty much every bit of your life needs to be tailored to improving your gains, so your diet has to be 100% on point as well. You'll need …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:44 PM
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So you're saying the guys get laid still. I fail to see the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:43 PM
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It has increased the supply of labor, and thus, lowered the price of labor (wages), yes. So it certainly benefited some men: the few at the top of the economic chain.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:29 PM
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Except it doesn't do that, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:20 PM
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I have to initiate them most of them time (80%, I’d say). The thing is when women say stuff like this, they forget that most men are not the sort of men who have women initiate with them. Most men will never have a woman initiate anything romantic with them, ever. So, what you're saying to most men is "You should always pay."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:17 PM
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How is it fair when it is almost always the man initiating, and thus almost always going to be the man paying? It's just a not really clever way to say "I think men should always pay because they are men."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:11 PM
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Yes. If I give a woman money, I expect something valuable in return. That's why you should never give anything to a woman who you are not fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:10 PM
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You should have read some of the stuff on /r/chadfish before it got deleted. Attractive men just get messages on Tinder from women who immediately want to fuck. No games or "dating" required. Only normal guys have to jump through hoops for a crumb of sex. Why would a date be fun? It's something you have to do to get what you want: like working or going to the doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:14 AM
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I'm definitely cheap. I don't give out money, despite having plenty, without getting something in return. I don't see why this is a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:50 AM
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I don't get why people who don't like dating and just want sex bother with dating. Because most of us aren't giga-chads? We don't have a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:48 AM
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conversely, if the guy picked the location and was the one to invite me there, I expect them to pick up the check So, you believe men should pay, because most men will never, ever have a woman invite them somewhere. It is almost always the man doing the inviting. Why not just say you think men should always pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:45 AM
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Because you have a lot of women that just sit back and let the guy plan absolutely everything while the woman gets their free entertainment for the day. They only do that when they do not find the guy sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:45 AM
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It's not about the money. I can drop a hundred dollars and not really give a fuck about it. It's the principle. I don't like being taken advantage of, and if I'm going to give a woman money, I had better be getting something that I value in exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 09:08 PM
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So the people in your life wouldn't drop you if the cost of having you around outweighed the benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 06:51 PM
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No, what is miserable is letting people take advantage of you because you don't understand how people view transactions. Their goal is to get as much from you with as little investment as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 06:47 PM
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There's no such thing as a "healthy" relationship. There are simply transactions, and I do not participate in transactions where the cost of what I want is too high or where I do not get what I want out of it. The moment that my cost becomes higher than the benefit, the transaction ends. Seriously, what kind of crowd are you hanging around if everyone seems willing to fuck you over the moment they can gain something from it. Human beings, generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 06:00 PM
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Remember, if a woman lies to you and takes advantage of you, it's your fault. If a man lies to a woman and takes advantage of her, it's also your fault!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 05:35 PM
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If some women are willing to sacrifice dignity and social acceptance to profit from that, it's their prerogative I wasn't making a moral judgement. I was just saying that women do it all too and that's normal because people are only concerned with what benefits themselves in the immediate. but there are also plenty of decent people Not really. "Decent" people are either those who need you more than you need them, or they are people who haven't yet had a chance to fuck you over. would probably be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 05:34 PM
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All women are the same around Chad, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 04:46 PM
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People will do that to you no matter whether you're Jesus or Hitler. So it's not a matter of deserving it, but instead that it's just human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 08:04 AM
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No, that's just ugly (almost all) men. If you were sexy, then society would definitely give you reason to feel sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 06:45 AM
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How hard is it just to be honest? Why would I be honest if being honest won't get me what I want?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 06:23 AM
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They are extremely normal, though. Women make tons of money exploiting mens' sexuality, from the Belle Delphine types who sell their bathwater to the girls on the street corner. Welcome to life. Everyone is out to fuck you over the moment that it is beneficial. The only thing to do is fuck them first.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 06:22 AM
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Yep. Needed to get laid so that's really all that mattered to me. I didn't feel bad after, I just wanted her to gtfo until I wanted to fuck her again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 06:19 AM
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Everyone is disposable to everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 06:18 AM
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Thanks for the advice, bro! I didn't know it was so simple. I'll just get taller, whiter, get a better jawline, and some broad shoulders now!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 05:47 PM
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I tried it. Extremely unattractive women are still just as much work as their more attractive counterparts as all women only desire men 8/10 and higher no matter her attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 04:48 PM
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No. I might sleep with the woman but I would never ever use any of my resources to help someone else's child.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 02:00 AM
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The dating market is like the job market. If one side has it easy, then the other side must have it difficult. For instance, earlier on in my life, I had few marketable skills so I had trouble getting a job and even when I got a job, my employer could treat me like shit and barely pay me because what options did I have? In the low-wage job market, employers hold all the cards and have all of the advantages because job seekers have none. Because it was easy for employers, it was hard for me. Now?…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 12:54 AM
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The population isn't "50/50". Up until roughly your 40's, there are considerably more men than women, as more boys are born than girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 06:10 PM
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Seems kind of strange to call sociopathy a mental illness because as far as I am aware it results in nothing but better outcomes for the afflicted, especially with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 06:15 AM
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Women love being hit on, but only by attractive guys. That's why it makes it hard for me to feel any sympathy when they complain about getting hit on. It's not the behavior that is the problem, but that the guy isn't up to their physical standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 02:08 AM
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And knocking someone's teeth out for hitting you means they probably won't do it again. If trying to manipulate women back gets me what I want, then that's really the only moral judgement that matters to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 06:48 PM
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Why is it shitty to hit someone back? I don't see any problem doing to others what they do to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 06:45 PM
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Only if they catch me, and if they catch me they aren't going to fuck me so why would I care what they think?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 03:03 AM
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and most women don't need men to even support them. You know what people who have money want more of? Money. I might concede the point if women didn't just fuck random guys because they are hot and made even those guys work for sex, but they don't. So, since we know how women behave if you are hot, then if they don't behave that way they must not find you sexually attractive. The point was that men would exhibit the exact same behavior. Which is an irrelevant point. I wasn't making a moral judge…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:34 PM
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What does anything women say have to do with reality? and the fact that men who aren't male models routinely have sex and relationships (inb4 lol beta bux), Yep, but you have to pay for it, whether explicitly (prostitution) or implicitly (relationships and marriage.) I want you to imagine if men were in a similar situation. If dating platforms like tinder had women largely out number men, and women used incredibly scatter shot tactics to get men's attention on dating sites. Do you honestly think…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:13 PM
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If the guy gets what he wants, presumably to have sex, then what does it matter if it's a trick?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:04 PM
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*If you're not at least an 8/10, with visible abs, you won't be able to put up a one word bio on tinder and expect random thots only interested in sex to message you on a casual sex app IE: what women do when they find you sexually attractive. If you have to work at it, they don't think you're sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 10:57 PM
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Both yes and no. If you're not at least an 8/10, with visible abs, women do not find you sexually attractive. To women, a 5/10 and a 1/10 are both equally repulsive, so while these guys might think themselves 1's when they are 5's, in practical terms there is no real difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 10:03 PM
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It's not body dysmorphia if women actually think you're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:47 PM
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How does doing that affect my physical appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:43 PM
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"Not unattractive" is not the same thing as "attractive", especially in the minds of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:34 PM
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and it is not borne out by what the women on this sub say. What does that have to do with reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:32 PM
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I'm an ugly guy, so, no, I am not valuable at least in the eyes of women. It's a shitty world, and therefore I'm going to do whatever I have to in order to get what I need from people. Women do the same, so why shouldn't I?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:31 PM
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sex is not that important to lie, cheat, pretend act or manipulate. That's up to each and every person. I don't see any reason to not lie, cheat, or whatever, because if I get away with it I get what I want, and if I don't? I don't lose anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 08:56 PM
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I think you're missing the point. As a guy, everyone in society blames you 100% for everything that happens to you. You are always the responsible party. So, in the name of equality, it is important to give women the same treatment so yes, a single mother is always at fault for what's happened to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 07:14 PM
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She's not getting 50 messages a second from male models. Yeah she is. Go make a tinder profile as some landwhale and you'll see for yourself. My guess is that you are more attractive than you think you are, or you're humblebragging. So congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 07:06 PM
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Women have much higher and more homogeneous standards than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 06:48 PM
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If you are, honest to God, really bad looking, dating has become a lot harder. For both sexes. The important thing you left out is that genuinely unattractive women are a tiny portion of the overall female population, whereas genuinely unattractive men are relatively common.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 06:18 PM
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Apparently not, since you both got shot down and then have to come ask a bunch of nerds on the internet what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 08:26 AM
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you're better off approaching in person. Not really. Online dating really stripped away any sort of facade that women as a population created when it comes to what they care about in a guy. It's an objective way to see how sexually attractive to women you are, so if you don't have any luck on online dating, the only thing you're likely to get is a harassment charge for approaching women in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 04:51 AM
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And we have to have way more discipline in calorie intake than men which basically balances out to a ton of effort for everybody. It is not a contest. Lol if you think that getting an attractive male body doesn't require super strict eating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 04:49 AM
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Hard to tell because some people are jacked naturally and others are skinny but use enough steroids to look "normal". No one is "jacked naturally."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 04:48 AM
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Men on online dating are image-obsessed because that is what modern women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 04:47 AM
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So you're still unattractive then, clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 04:44 AM
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More like they have access to money and drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 03:43 AM
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I could go on dates with a 10/10 despite being 1/10, I'd just have to pay for it. If you were attractive, then they wouldn't have shot you down. If you were attractive, they would approach you themselves. I think you really should hang out with some legitimately attractive men to see how women act when they actually think you're hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 03:22 AM
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Women don't find funny guys hot. They find hot guys funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:11 AM
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You aren't as attractive as you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 12:35 AM
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I did. To other people, how they perceive your personality IS your personality. In practical terms, that's all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 11:52 PM
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How your personality is perceived is not the same as what your personality is. Yes, it is. At least in the dating realm, where the ONLY thing that matters is the perception of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 11:34 PM
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So something that influences your personality traits in the eyes of people is not on-topic for a thread about how other people see your personality traits. Alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 11:28 PM
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Yeah, it is. Your looks influence what people see as your personality. It's pretty well documented and called the "halo effect."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 11:19 PM
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I'm ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 10:50 PM
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Don't remember where I heard it, but it went something like this "Women don't care about the struggle. Women hang out at the finish line and fuck the winners."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 10:44 PM
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OKcupid with it's extensive profile and questions system helps. Not really. Women still judge you primarily on your appearance no matter where you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 09:48 PM
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For some men though, it all works out because they were able to self improve into someone that is considered attractive by most women. lol no All the roids in the world won't fix your fucked up jawline or make you taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 09:45 PM
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Most of them are roiding, definitely, because women love guys who roid, so if you aren't doing it, you're losing out against guys who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 09:44 PM
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A man who's got body dismorphia or an eating disorder has an issue with self esteem. Not really. He just realizes what the guys he is competing against look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 09:43 PM
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Except women are definitely attracted to men who do nothing or who certainly wouldn't provide for her hypothetical children, at least as long as he has a strong jaw, some muscles, and likes to smack women around a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 03:42 PM
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Yes. A relationship is a transaction and it is unreasonable to expect one side to give something away for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 05:10 AM
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Go read about Zyzz if you believe that. Women absolutely love guys who are clearly juicing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 04:40 AM
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Because it doesn't exist. It's painfully foolish to assume that because you are there for someone when they need you that they will be there when you need them. That's not generally how the world works. That's not a man or a woman thing. It's a human thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 04:36 AM
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If he's white and American he's considered alpha and high status there. That doesn't make her want to fuck you. It makes her want to use sex as a way to get out of her shitty situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 04:33 AM
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They can get commitment, just not from the men they want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:08 PM
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Just because they outwardly say they are ok with does not change the fact that they need to learn some self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 04:05 AM
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I do think it's childish. An adult should say directly what they think and then do what they say. It's not going to change, though, so while people SHOULD, they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:52 AM
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So TRP men want sex toys basically. Well yeah. All relationships are transactions, and all transactions has someone who is in power and someone who is subject to the power of the other. My goal is always to be the one in power. Admittedly, even if you aren't a sexually successful man, you can still walk away from a woman who wants to give you trouble, you just have to be willing to go without sex. Fortunately as I've gotten older, I've become completely unwilling to put up with any of womens' ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:35 AM
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Women are not indirect communicators. They are only indirect with men they do not find sexually attractive. Take some roids, get some jaw fillers, and you'll see how direct they can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 04:22 PM
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Of course not, but to say that trends generally aren't driven by marketing data is completely ignorant of the way our modern world works. Companies wouldn't spend so much time collecting or purchasing it if it wasn't valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 04:52 AM
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Marketing is very, very good at what it does, especially now that it's 24x7 in your face with reams of data on everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 04:46 AM
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So find me some pictures of the ugliest woman you can. I'll go make a fake Tinder profile for you and report how many thousands of likes she gets. And ironically thinking you need to do steroids to have a chance with women is nuts. I never said that. To have women desire you sexually, you certainly do. Otherwise, you can do what most men in history have been forced to do: pay for it, either explicitly via prostitution or indirectly via marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 04:14 AM
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time or cost or even existence of many of our beauty procedures Which is again not required to be sexually attractive to men like how being jacked is required to be sexually attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:07 AM
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Most men don't like fat women unless they have an extremely curvy figure. Then why can any fat woman go on Tinder and have hundreds or thousands of suitors at any one time? I still think women spend way more money on making themselves attractive in comparison to men. Women are attractive to men by default, so, no, they do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:48 AM
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Yes, but unfortunately fat women are still sexually attractive to women, so it's not really something they HAVE to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:40 AM
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(All the articles recently about how women love dad bods...) It's easy to reproduce. Go get pictures of a jacked guy, make a Tinder profile, and see how many matches he gets. Then go get a normal guy and do the same thing, and compare the two. The most important thing you can learn is that what women say they find attractive is generally worthless. You are now saying that men need to spend money because they are juicing to be fit? Men don't need to JUST be fit. You have to be jacked to be sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:26 AM
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It's also harder for women to drop fat. No, it's not. Women's bodies will also get smaller if they eat fewer calories than they expend.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:09 AM
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Many women have to put in time at the gym to be fit. Which is a nice plus but it's not required to be attractive to men. It's much, much easier to lose weight than it is to build muscle. It's even harder to build muscle while not getting fat, as you're required to eat at a caloric surplus to get stronger. thus spending more money on it. To get to the level of muscularity that the modern woman requires, you generally need to be juicing because if you aren't, the guys she is matching with on Tinde…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:07 AM
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To even get women to look at you, you need to be muscular AND have a low body fat percentage (No one likes bloatmaxxers), which is a huge time investment in the gym and means you are extremely restricted in what you can eat and when. You have to do all of this on top of dressing stylishly, getting your hair done, and so on. On the other hand women just have to not eat a gallon of ice cream at every meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 12:57 AM
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And then he will ask you to pay half the date. Because men are doing the same thing, and we have to work a whole lot harder on our appearance than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 09:13 PM
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Not really. If all guys looked mostly like me, then there would be no Chads whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 07:02 PM
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Women don't want personality. Otherwise, you're correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 08:30 PM
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You fucked them, so you must find them sexually attractive on some level.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 08:29 PM
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Post your profile and then post some pictures of you getting ignored, then, if it's so easy to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 08:11 PM
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Basically it can show a guy in explicit terms how little his personality, his humor, or anything about him that isn't his luck in the genetic lottery means to women. It also shows him that women are not some demure group of people who don't really like sex and who are always passive with men. Chadfishing shows that women suddenly become aggressive when a sexually attractive man is around. Basically, if a woman isn't explicitly pursuing you for sex, it is unlikely she finds you sexually attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 08:09 PM
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You think cherry picked responses in a sub full of nutcases is "evidence" ? The best part about Chadfishing is that if you think it's just "cherry-picked", you can go and do it for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 08:04 PM
1

So that's why everyone in here is posting "Oh everyone knows women want sexually attractive guys so clearly Chadfishing is meaningless."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:32 PM
0

Because men are looking at women as being attractive enough to have sex with Women look solely at whether men are attractive enough to fuck, too. The difference is most men find most women attractive but most women find most men unattractive. I would say go to /r/chadfish but it got banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:26 PM
1

No, but that's not what women want. Women want these guys and only these guys, no matter the horrible things they say and do, both for casual sex and for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:19 PM
1

Guys also need to accept this and not be terribly salty about it either. Guys should be very salty about it, given that most women view most men as subhuman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:18 PM
2

Women want the same thing for LTRs. They just can't get what they want for LTRs because the men women want can get sex whenever they desire it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:15 PM
3

Except women don't want two different things. Women want these guys, that's all. They may be forced to settle for guys who don't look that good, but that's not their choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:13 PM
1

Yes, but it doesn't change that women in particular love saying many words with little meaning, so I find it hard to believe they are "better" at communicating. The point of communication is to exchange information, whether people do it just for fun or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 10:16 AM
1

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 08:19 AM
5

I think the important question is "Why is screwing women over a bad thing?" Women clearly love it, so what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 04:27 AM
5

Directness is always appropriate. The problem is that people let their feelings get in the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 04:24 AM
2

No there's not. Jeremy Meeks was absolutely on the lowest level of American society, yet now he's married to a billionaire because he's really physically attractive. Not to mention every woman on the internet wet her panties at the sight of his mugshot. Women don't care about a guy's social status when it comes to screwing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 03:29 AM
2

Okay. Still don't get it, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 03:11 AM
4

Yes, it is sad that men waste a lot of time trying to impress women by flirting when said women find them sexually repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 03:09 AM
2

Okay. What about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 03:06 AM
3

No thanks. I don't get the vast majority of poetry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 03:00 AM
6

Yes, that way of it would be more efficient and less prone to miscommunications and wasted time. It's not a failing on my part that for some reason people like to dance around the actual issue at hand. Also, if you have to "flirt", it's just because she doesn't find you sexually attractive. If she finds you sexually attractive, what you say doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 02:59 AM
6

Do you not want your feelings protected even a little bit. It might hurt in the short-term, but it's better for men to know exactly what women think of them. I think the effects on the world at large would be hilarious if men knew that most women think they are sub-humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 02:56 AM
3

Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 02:55 AM
2

Remember, being direct and to the point is "low value!"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 02:54 AM
1

most upper class women wouldn't give you the light if day; even if they thought you were cute. Laughs in Jeremy Meeks
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 02:53 AM
7

Yes, it is. Why talk if there is no express purpose to it? And if there is an express purpose, why not achieve that purpose as quickly and as effortlessly as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 12:17 AM
3

Wrong. It certainly matters when a woman is considering entering a financial transaction relationship with you (She trades access to her body in exchange for your resources, which is how 90% of male female relationships work), but she certainly isn't going to enjoy fucking you because you have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 12:17 AM
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Because communicating indirectly is inefficient and a waste of time. If I am talking to you, it is because I need to give you information, or I need information from you in the most time-efficient and most direct way possible, as that reduces the chance of a miscommunication.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 11:32 PM
7

Because your social class has nothing to do with your sexual attractiveness as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 11:25 PM
6

Looks are not a large part of male attractiveness. Go check out /r/Chadfish and get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 11:07 PM
3

things like a man's personality can also be attractive to women. Once you reach a certain level of physical attractiveness, yes, a dominant guy who likes smacking women around is going to be much more sexually attractive to women than a guy who treats them well. If you aren't at that physical level, though, your personality is completely irrelevant as women don't actually see you as human in the first place. And most guys will never be at that physical level.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 11:07 PM
20

Chad can be a complete loser, as long as he's got a nice jawline, some muscles, and likes beating women, women don't care how successful he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 11:05 PM
2

No, I'm a man. No adult should cry, man or woman, outside of something like combat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 12:17 AM
1

Or you could be in control of your emotions which means you don't get stressed in the first place. There is no legotimate reason for a man to cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 12:05 AM
3

Nope. Just in danger of getting robbed and/or murdered by him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 04:30 AM
2

How many times have you gone to the corner store for milk or just taken a walk and had to deal with some stranger engaging you in an unwanted conversation and getting angry when you didn't want to talk? Plenty. I get hassled all the time by folks. That's part of life. I don't let it control me though because I'm an adult. Do you not have women in your life? Ask them about this and hear the truth about what they go through daily. I believe that we should treat women exactly like we treat men, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 04:12 AM
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Obviously you don't live your life terrified because you're a man and will be able to handle yourself with other men Uhh no. That's not how it works. The person who gets the jump on the other wins most of the time. Additionally, there are plenty of guys much stronger and much better out there than me. And even if there weren't? They would still be carrying knives and guns. I don't live my life terrified because statistically I live in a very safe country and also I'm not a coward. They aren't tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 02:49 AM
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sizes need to be. I need to weigh them to understand. And when I eat my portion size, I am not satisfied for long, I am hungry because I am used to eating more Yes, it's in your mind. We get conditioned to think being a little bit peckish is actually hungry. Try some fasting. Go without any food for a day or two to see what actually being hungry is like. Eating an extra 100-200 calories is making one small mistake, one small misjudgment, one "oh I think I ate healthy today so let me have a treat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 02:07 AM
1

Ah, so peer pressure is only applicable to children? I didn't know that at all. Yep. Being able to ignore peer pressure is something that comes with adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 02:06 AM
2

Those 300 lb coworkers can hop on Tinder and have hundreds of suitors, so, as I said, all women get male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 02:03 AM
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lol where TF did I say that I was unable to say no to food "Like, I think a lot of these men are greatly overestimating their own abilities to just "be hungry" and be around people enjoying wonderful food that you can't." Peer pressure just sucks and feeling envious over food choices is a normal response. Yes, it sucks and is hard for a child. How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:54 AM
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As a man I'm much more likely to be the target of violent crime simply because I'm a man. Yet, somehow, I manage to live my life without being terrified of my own shadow because I'm an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:53 AM
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Congratulations, it's still an unreasonable amount for you which is all that matters. If you eat more than you expend, you gain weight. Smaller people expend less, but on the other side, you don't need as much, either. I'm a really, really tall man. So, if I want to gain weight (Which I do, because I'm required as a man to be jacked if I want to be sexually successful), it means I have to eat a ridiculous amount of food because my size means I need more in order to not die. The problem ultimatel…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:50 AM
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lol Everyone has desires, some people are slaves to them and some are not. Whoever said people should just be giving into these desires? I certainly don't. You're the one who is talking about being unable to say no to food when you are around it. . You don't have friends who enjoy eating out with you? So go hang out with them and don't stuff your face. I don't see why this is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:46 AM
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Yet men wonder why it is difficult to stay skinny. No, we don't. It is difficult to stay skinny in our society, but it's considerably harder to get ripped, which is what is necessary for a man to be sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:34 AM
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Then what you ate isn't reasonable. One way I broke myself of the habit of eating too much was fasting. After doing a few 48 hour fasts, I realized that what I felt as "hunger" in the past wasn't really hunger but instead just being a bit peckish, or even just being bored. I just ate what made me not feel hungry and i gain. Then you're eating too much and eating like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:31 AM
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Yeah. This thread is wild AF. Like, I think a lot of these men are greatly overestimating their own abilities to just "be hungry" and be around people enjoying wonderful food that you can't. It's called willpower and being an adult. I'm not a slave to my desires like women apparently are. Well, most restaurants don't have the calories listed with the entrees so eating half the meal could be 400 calories or 600 calories. Then don't eat out if it's so hard for you. You can do things like cook for …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:29 AM
1

It's still weak, though, and it's pointless to ask whether it "should" be shameful. It is perceived as such and will continue to be perceived as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:00 AM
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No, you should never cry, even alone. What purpose does it serve? All it really says is that you are not in control of your emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:58 AM
2

You are giving them way too much credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:21 AM
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There are no women who don't get male attention, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:19 AM
4

No, when a female acquaintance says that, she says it because it worked for her and of course it worked for her because she's a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 01:32 AM
2

The ideal of female beauty is really simple to obtain: just don't eat way too much junk food every day. Getting skinny is simple. It's not necessary easy, but it is really simple. Getting buff, on the other hand, is both complex and difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 01:11 AM
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Men don't demand that from women. Men would still fuck women even if they didn't do all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 01:09 AM
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Never. Unless you are ridiculously attractive, you will never have value for anyone beyond what you can provide for them and acting vulnerable will reduce that value. These guys who say you can be vulnerable with something like a parent dying are wrong. Women will never ever have any sympathy for you no matter the circumstances so don't even bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 08:21 PM
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At least you had the self-respect to walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 12:28 AM
5

in I-don't-rape-and-murder manner. Except women do find rapists and murderers extremely attractive. Example
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 08:25 PM
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No shit. The problem people have is when women act like "Well being nice is just a minimum level of expectation on anyone" when it clearly is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 08:08 PM
3

And a society is shaped by the people who run it. Since the people who run our society are monsters, then why is it any surprise that most other people are monsters, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 08:01 PM
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"Creepy" is defined by your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 06:02 PM
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You might have a point if "nice" were any sort of baseline that most people meet when it clearly isn't, and it's certainly not required to be successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 05:34 PM
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I think people who think this way see the world as full of self interested opportunists, Because the vast majority of people ARE like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 05:19 PM
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but Americans aren't monstrous . Yeah, we are. Our entire economic and political structure is based off of who can fuck everyone else over the most effectively. Hell, we have a ruling class that is so monstrous that they are happy to destroy the world's habitability to make money and who have to be explicitly told "Don't dump toxic shit into people's drinking water." So why wouldn't our personal values reflect that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 05:16 PM
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I never said you should. All I said is that if you think women don't directly approach men, then you aren't attractive, because they certainly and explicitly approach attractive men. If you aren't attractive, the only thing you can do is hit the gym, get some roids, and get some plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 04:57 PM
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Thanks for not answering my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 04:56 PM
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Is being NICE some great achievement? Is it particularly difficult to be NICE? In the nightmare world full of monstrous people that we inhabit? Yeah, it really is. Even more so, holding onto that kindness even as the world shows you how little it regards kindness is an even greater achievement. That's completely outside of the dating market, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 04:55 PM
2

It's hard for men because whether you're a creep or not is dependent entirely on how you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 04:03 PM
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I agree, it makes no sense. I'm not sure why they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 11:29 PM
5

This just in: what a woman says has nothing to do with what a woman actually wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 11:26 PM
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they're not a very reasonable person IE: A woman. Women mercilessly enforce male gender roles, and asking before you do anything is, in the eyes of a woman, weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 11:20 PM
0

Sorry that you're unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 11:18 PM
1

And they never will. Welcome to human society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 11:17 PM
1

It won't ever so don't even bother worrying about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 10:45 PM
2

Yep. The difference is while men approach all women, women all approach the same very tiny minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 10:43 PM
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But if you start taking their clothes off and going for penetration it never hurts to go for a cursory "may I" before you start jamming shit in. Yes, it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 10:39 PM
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Women take a passive role in sex. Only if you're unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 10:36 PM
1

I find it amusing that feminists are essentially saying that womens' words are worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 10:34 PM
-1

Just reasonably entertaining, average looking guys Yes, a meal ticket.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 05:54 AM
0

How are those two things mutually exclusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 05:54 AM
1

Well yes, women will get upset if they might lose their meal ticket. But really, women are just as immature as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:56 AM
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Screaming, making a scene, stalking, the whole "I was just kidding you're ugly anyways" sort of juvenile stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:25 AM
1

but women (almost) never directly make a move. Not true at all. Women will never directly make a move unless they find you sexually attractive. If you aren't getting directly approached by women, you need to spend more time in the gym and possibly get some plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:23 AM
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I used to know some legit attractive guys, though, and women would freak the fuck out when they'd get shot down because hey when you are used to doing the rejecting, being rejected must really sting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:22 AM
1

That women like money. Who would have thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:05 AM
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Not really. That isn't to say you can't get laid if you aren't a male model, but you're going to be paying for it one way or another. despite arguably looking better back then than I do now. A male 1 and a male 6 are equally unattractive to women, as you don't exist until you're an 8 or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 11:17 PM
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Not really. If you meet that looks threshold, it doesn't matter what you say. If you don't meet that looks threshold, it doesn't matter what you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 11:13 PM
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rather uncharismatic or awkward or whatever else kills female arousal. Except that doesn't kill female arousal as long as a certain looks threshold is met.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 11:08 PM
4

The main difference is "Nice Guys" are ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 03:31 PM
5

I don't care about any of the unfairness. I just don't care about whether the mother and child go hungry. The state has no place in regulating whether someone supports their children. I believe the woman is and should have the ability to have or terminate a pregnancy as she will, but I don't think she should be able to use the state to compel someone else to pay for her decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 04:32 AM
3

but they definitely should be paying something. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 01:53 AM
3

Well yes, because the type of man a woman says she likes has nothing to do with the types of men she actually likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 01:52 AM
4

None. Let them go hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 12:26 AM
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Lol if you think women give a fuck about any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 04:03 AM
6

I don't get why it's so hard for some people to admit that you can be blessed with good genes and have an easier time in dating because of that. America, at least, is all about the just world: you get what you deserve. We see it in our economic structure. So why wouldn't we see it in other facets of life?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 04:02 AM
5

Which is silly given that most victims of violent crime are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 01:21 AM
1

In his mind he's going to be questioning whether you do this with every guy and how many it was, Not really. Anyone who has thought about it realizes all women do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 12:41 AM
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Genuine guys will stick around for a few weeks No, only stupid guys will. Even guys who don't want to just fuck you still want to fuck you. If a guy is doing the bare minimum then you should be skeptical of his intentions. No, all guys should only do the bare minimum, because that's all most women will ever do. There's no reason to do more than the bare minimum when all women have hundreds or thousands of options and will vanish on you for any reason at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 12:39 AM
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There isn't really anything. If I were looking for a relationship, I would do the exact same thing (beyond of course the ditching her as soon as I got what I wanted.) because: A woman who doesn't fuck you immediately or ASAP is not attracted to you, and that will not change. All women have hundreds to thousands of options in men, so she will drop you immediately and for any or no reason, so there is no reason for you to invest more than the minimal effort into any one woman, because 99% of them …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 12:39 AM
3

It's not. My objective is to get into bed with the woman as quickly as possible with as little effort as possible. I wouldn't ca her back because I only really wanted to fuck her and now that I've gotten some relief from that urge, the effort required to deal with her is no longer worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 10:41 PM
1

Not really. It's why I don't give any material support to women. But if women expect men to pay, maybe we should just skip right to the chase and hire a hooker instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 10:39 PM
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apparently some men will hold it over your head if they pay, expecting something in return from her. As they should. If I pay for something, then I expect to receive something in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 03:30 AM
0

If I wanted to pay for a woman's company, I'd go hire a whore and get what I actually want out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 03:29 AM
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Because I want to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 03:20 AM
2

If you don't know how to use a knife, then you are better off not having one. Especially if you've never actually been cut for real before. Basically, if it comes down to it, ditch the woman and survive. She will certainly ditch you if it saves her skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 11:41 PM
1

Laughs in Jeremy Meeks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 07:20 PM
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but the talk on reddit makes it sound like unattractive people (and especially men) get degraded and hit with contempt and bad behaviour Because they do. The main difference is 1 out of 1000 women is sexually unattractive, whereas 900 out of 1000 men are sexually unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 06:47 PM
1

If you really want to make "sugar babies" mad, call them prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 06:01 PM
4

There's no shame in running away. You're an idiot to ever try and fight a battle at a time of someone else's choosing if there's any other option.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 05:57 PM
0

you'd think they would be good at this, but often arent. Because women aren't really targeted for actual violence all that often.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 05:53 PM
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No, it's because expecting women to show something like courage would be like expecting my dog to do calculus.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 05:52 PM
0

I'm not sure I would call this entitlement honestly. Then why does she feel entitled to protection that she can't provide herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 05:52 PM
1

Most the time women need to like a man to have sex with them.\ Haha no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 05:51 PM
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Part of me thinks we are headed toward some bizarro neo-Victorian/Puritan society but for only one group of people while the other has much looser standards for conduct. Whatever. What you're describing is human history. Women always have had easier rules in society because of their inherent value.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 05:49 PM
0

If you aren't getting an equal or greater return on your favors, yes, it makes you pathetic. The gender of the other person is irrelevant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 04:56 PM
2

No, it doesn't help, but people, even normally "progressive" people going full bootstraps on you and telling you that it's your fault is an unpleasantly common thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 07:30 PM
1

Why? There's nothing inherently immoral about it. I just fail to see why I should care whether some woman and her kids are going hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 08:53 AM
1

Long before it hits women, it hits men first. Taking away child support is going to make men starve?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 08:51 AM
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Ultimately his mistake for not immediately kicking the woman to the curb and telling her to go fuck herself. Also his fault for getting married to a woman in modern America. I have no intention of doing either of those ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 08:42 AM
2

Yes, the Russian monarchy was overthrown by their army, not a bunch of single mothers. Also poverty was one of the things that destroyed the Roman Empire. Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 08:40 AM
2

That's why we have an army. Also, a bunch of hungry women aren't going to do anything at all, so that doesn't worry me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 08:34 AM
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You didn't answer my question. You make the statement "someone has to pay" like there are only two possible options in the world when that's not true. I don't have a horse in the race, either, as I physically cannot have children, so there's no way I'll be paying child support, either. But I don't see why the government has to get involved in any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 08:28 AM
1

absence of that someone has to pay. Why is it not an option to just let them go hungry?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 08:10 AM
0

It's easy to be that way because... again, I don't care. Why should I give a fuck about these folks going hungry? you can guarantee your own indifference which be returned to you twenty fold. I'm a man, and an average looking one at that. The world is by default indifferent to me, so you're going to have to do better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 08:06 AM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 07:31 AM
-1

The answer is that I don't care about how much it costs to raise a child and I am perfectly fine with these children and their mothers going hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 07:31 AM
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Not really. If they are interested with you, they'll just shut up and spread their legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 02:34 AM
3

I would say I am around a 6 To a woman, that is hideous. potential to be an 8 Women don't care about potential. They hang out at the finish line and fuck the winners. but you would be suprised at what you can get if you dangle committment infront of them Yep. I have some money, so I can sometimes do that with women around their late 20's and early 30's who've really fucked up in life and are still waiting tables or some shit or even worse have kids. But I don't kid myself and say that the women …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 02:32 AM
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Not really. Unless you were blessed by genetics, going from a 3 to a 6 won't change womens' opinions of you because they have no sexual desire for anything below an 8, and you're competing with 8's, 9's, and 10's for her attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 02:06 AM
2

If you treat women like a friend, you won't get laid. I'm not there to be her friend. I'm there to get her into bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 02:05 AM
2

What light at the end of the tunnel?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 02:04 AM
1

That's why you try to get her to go out with you in the first 1-2 messages, so you don't waste time talking to someone who will never meet you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 02:03 AM
12

Often, yes, but women are often just horrible conversationalists. After all, why would they ever need to learn? People like them simply because they are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 02:02 AM
0

many kids are not being given the minimum care they need. Laws are pretty skewed on this. Who cares? Let them go hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 01:09 AM
1

, like if someone has to pay the tab It's not a choice between the taxpayer and the father. We could let no one pay for it. If the kid or the mother goes hungry, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 12:48 AM
4

Yes, if her effort is just "showing up" then clearly she isn't actually into me (And I have to put in that effort too, in addition to leading all of the interactions 100%) but is instead looking to get something else, so she gets dropped the instant I come to that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 12:47 AM
9

It is socially acceptable for women to be shy but it is certainly not acceptable for men, and those women who are shy will judge men for it harshly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 12:46 AM
2

Not at all. It's no different than a prostitute fucking her john.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 11:23 PM
7

Neither, but I can't abide hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 10:59 PM
1

Just not being fat these days in the US makes you an automatic 5. If you're a woman, yeah. Not being fat isn't nearly enough if you're a man, though, as you need to get muscular to have any chance in women finding you sexually attractive. Getting muscular is a lot harder than getting skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 10:45 PM
1

Only relevant when she's looking for a provider, which has nothing to do with sexual attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 10:43 PM
-1

I am sure these women are stupid enough to believe that, especially when they see muscles and a strong jaw, but that doesn't remove their own responsibility in the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 10:30 PM
9

Nope. I have zero sympathy for "shy" women because the sympathy anyone has for guys who aren't super extroverted is exactly nil.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 10:19 PM
7

You can still have them respond while it is still a one-sided conversation. A lot of women are really bad at conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 10:09 PM
0

The men women want are those who prioritize raising a few quality children over creating dozens of fatherless losers. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 09:55 PM
3

Then why do women so commonly fuck hot guys who ditch them if they don't actually enjoy it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 09:52 PM
1

Because your success in bedding them goes up drastically if you hold them in contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 09:50 PM
1

They make you chase her becusde they're scared you will label her a 'slut' if she has sex too early on. Not true at all. If it weren't true, then they wouldn't fuck really hot guys immediately on meeting them. If she wouldn't make that guy from Thor wait to fuck her (And she wouldn't), then don't let her make you wait, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 09:49 PM
1

Of course not, because the moment Chad looks in her direction, she's gone. If you can get them to meet up the same day or so, generally you have much better chances before her other, better options can get her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 09:32 PM
1

If you have to chase her, she isn't into you, so I fail to see why anyone would find that fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 09:31 PM
9

Except she's decided whether she'll fuck you within a few moments of seeing you, if even that long. That's why women love Tinder. They don't even have to put up the front of acting like they care about any of a man's other attributes anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:58 PM
1

Not at all. Men don't like a chase. Men have to tolerate a chase (Unless you're sexually attractive, which most men aren't). The ideal for men would be that we get sex as easily as women: with no effort required. If you let a woman act like sex with her is something special when she has been in all likelihood giving out BJs behind the Waffle House at 3am to guys she just met since she was a teenager then you need to grow some balls and get some self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:56 PM
9

It's not fake nor artificial. Online dating reduces dating and sex to its simplest form, removes all of the cultural baggage and deceit that people put up ("I just want a nice guy!"), and brings to light what women really desire in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:51 PM
1

Maybe you're just trying to get guys with no self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:48 PM
1

No. I'm not a social person in the least and I rarely enjoy spending time with people so my objective is to get laid with the least required effort which unfortunately means you need to be a male model.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:36 PM
22

You know what's fun? One sided interactions where you have to entertain the other person 100% of the time because if you don't, they'll instantly vanish into the void. It's not a PUA thing. It's what normal men have to do in a world where all women have access to extremely sexually attractive men by just opening their phone. Basically, it's women's expectations of men being fucking demeaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:34 PM
2

Holding out doesn't help either. I'm not going to wait when every woman will fuck a guy within an hour of meeting him if she finds him attractive. I'll assume rightly that it's some stupid game (which is my number one deal breaker) and immediately cut all contact. The actual solution is to be interesting and fun to be around when I'm not fucking you which is something most women are unable to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:30 PM
4

Alternatively it could be because the guy had no interest in the woman beyond what's in between her legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 06:23 AM
1

Yes, women have their own money. That doesn't stop them from wanting more money, especially if someone else has to work for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 06:21 PM
2

Why do there have to be options. Life isn't fair. Some people get a shit hand in life and that's just the way it is. The problem is people (mainly women) assuming someone's character or value as a person simply based off of their attractiveness to said women but that also isn't ever going to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 07:20 PM
1

That's fine. You're allowed to ignore facts if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 07:20 PM
1

Except it's true. And really, economics is just the study of human behavior in transactions, so the terminology is perfectly reasonable here. Why would you interact with someone if you didn't get something from it? Additionally, the best transactions are ones where you invest little to nothing but get a lot from it, and as we know women really love those sorts of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 06:10 PM
2

Women are not passive. They are only passive around unattractive men. They suddenly become aggressive when a guy has a certain jaw-shape and a lot of muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 06:03 PM
1

Just because the men who showed you attention are invisible to you, as women only notice extremely sexually attractive men, doesn't mean they do not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/19 03:33 AM
4

Why do women still sexually select as if the cost is still there? Because market forces allow them to do so. Why haven't we descended into full blown indiscriminate orgies? Because women find 90% of men sexually repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/19 02:53 AM
1

That all women have men pursuing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 10:17 PM
1

Because I can reproduce my results by, as I said, hopping on Tinder with some hideous woman's pictures. What you mean is "There are many women who don't get any attention and are not approached by the men they (and all other women) find sexually attractive" which is true, but an entirely different statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:17 PM
1

Pretty much. I'm not on a date with you because I want to hang out with a friend. I'm there to fuck you, and as soon as the chance to fuck you vanishes, so do I.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 03:33 AM
0

Why are you taking a woman's words as if they have any value?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 03:32 AM
1

I have no clue what SARMS are but fair enough. And I do work out, quite a bit, but I don't have any illusions that it will make me attractive to women but if my face weren't fucked I'd definitely be roided as fuck. Mainly now it's just for health benefits and to take out some of my reserves of anger by throwing heavy things around. Basically, you got lucky. This isn't to say that what you do isn't hard, as powerlifting is obviously really hard so kudos on that, but if you were born with a shitty…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 01:50 AM
5

Why would I not play video games instead of pursuing women when the only women I might conceivably have access to look like small planets and also demand that I am able to perform a quadruple-bypass heart surgery while playing a symphony at the same time for even the chance at buying them dinner? I'm going to go for whatever works out in the equation of cost versus benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 01:47 AM
1

Zyzz is just the perfect example of unreal expectations since he juiced hard. Still miss him. Beyond the juicing, dude had the perfect genetics so when he juiced it worked but ultimately since all of your competition for women are juicing, unless you're genetically lucky, you've got to juice to keep up with them. Ultimately he set me down the path to seeing what women really are so I will always be in his debt for that. If I juiced and worked out 7 days a week I'd just be a guy with muscles and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 01:37 AM
1

There are other factors too such as a fitting fragrance , clothes and the way you behave. Not really, no. There's a reason that Zyzz mostly just walked around half-naked. In my experience women will try harder once they find out what your social situation is and how your bank account is. Yes, just like I will try harder to get a job when I learns that it pays a shit ton of money. It doesn't mean I have any interest in the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 01:10 AM
0

Your sexual attractiveness to women has nothing to do with the amount of money you have. Would you say a prostitute is attracted to her john because she fucks him? It's all about how you look, and most of those things women look for are determined by your genetics. I could get jacked but I'd still never be attractive. Don't think that I am swooned over like your average girl at a party but when I do go out I will get tons of looks and 1-3 approaches from women. Yep. As I said, most guys are neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 01:02 AM
4

They want to have sex. To give you an idea, I'm roughly average looking (Which means I'm completely invisible to women.) I could go out, spend tons of time in the gym, dieting hard, and all of that trying to get the attention of women who I don't find attractive (Mainly women who weigh more than I do) since those are the only ones that I can ever get to pay attention to me, do the song and dance (And if I make one misstep, which varies between each woman she vanishes into the ether to never be h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 12:55 AM
1

There are many women who don't get any attention and are not approached by men even when they are trying to look pretty. No, there aren't. Having a vagina makes you a 5-6 by default. Don't believe me? Find the most hideous woman's pictures you can and make a Tinder account.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 12:41 AM
2

Women do not have some sort of magical feelings detector. Women are just as stupid as everyone else, especially when it comes to sexually attractive (or unattractive) people. The reason not getting laid means its harder to get laid is not because you reek of desperation but because women all find the same thing sexually attractive, so, if you're attractive to some women, you are almost certainly attractive to pretty much all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 12:36 AM
2

If women come to you, then you are likely in the top 5% of men by attractiveness. Most men will never be pursued by a woman in their life, as women universally find them sexually unattractive. You have the option to ditch these women and still get laid. Most don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 12:34 AM
1

Except it is an option. If you don't like approaching, then your only option then is to get really, really jacked so women will approach you instead. So, get on some steroids and hit the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 12:52 AM
1

Yep. But you should do it anyways. I'm 2/10 on my best day but I act like I've got balls that drag the ground. I certainly don't treat women any differently than anyone else, which is to say I treat them like shit and walk over them to get what I want. It hasn't changed that I'm fundamentally unattractive to women but it has helped my career and life in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 11:06 AM
4

Take the GOOD advice; work on yourself, broaden you horizons, improve your intellect, find a passion and follow it. Are you a woman? Because that's awful advice if you want to get laid. If you want to get laid, hit the gym, take steroids if you can, and learn to be an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 04:07 AM
5

Lack of available good, sexually attractive men in their area. ftfy. There is no lack of good men in an area for women. The problem is that your personality doesn't matter until you meet a certain threshold of physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:50 PM
0

But I do continually see men telling women to lower their standards on looks and get a guy with a good personality. Yes, because that's simply common sense. The men who all women want have no incentive to treat women nicely.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:50 PM
2

Tinder women aren't different than normal women. It's just that Tinder removes from women any sort of social requirement to appear like they aren't shallow, which all women are. Tinder lays out human mating patterns in stark detail without any of the cultural baggage that can make it hard to determine what people like otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:26 PM
3

So clearly the blame is on them for agreeing to be in an abusive relationship. Glad you agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:21 PM
5

If people accept something and do nothing to change it, then they have no room to complain about the consequences of their actions. Ultimately however women select abusive men with such regularity that I think they just enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:06 PM
2

It's almost like women want the benefits of equality but not the responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:15 PM
5

So being abused and abandoned can't be all that bad if women willingly accept it. So I guess the real question is why do women complain about it yet do nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:13 PM
1

If I am giving you money, it is because I plan on getting something out of the exchange. If you're my friend, it's because I enjoy your company. On the other hand, if you're a woman I just met, you're not a friend. So, you can pay your own way. If I wanted to hang out with women who just wanted money, I'd go pay a hooker to fuck me and be done with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:12 PM
4

Well I guess they don't dislike it much then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:06 PM
3

We don’t ridicule men online the way men ridicule women. Are you kidding me?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:56 PM
5

If women didn't love being abused and abandoned, why do they continually want to fuck men with a track record of abuse and abandonment?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:55 PM
13

Women do go for poor, cruel, abusive men who abandon them already. They seem to love it. As for your list of requirements, a woman's idea of "average looking" is not actually "average looking."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:51 PM
5

I don't care about $40, but if I wanted to hang out with a woman who was only there because I was paying for her, I'd go get a much hotter woman and just pay her to fuck me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 05:22 PM
0

Even when I've told the guy clearly that I am normally not attracted to men and only want to be friends, Then don't go out with him. It's important to remember that womens' words are worthless, so of course we aren't going to listen to what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 05:20 PM
1

Do you think women can easily have everything paid by a man in 2019? Yes. If you aren't a GigaChad, asking a woman to do something as minor as pay for her own shit then you're just going to get ghosted. I think that, especially during courtship phase, men should be willing to pay for the woman Why? Are women incapable of providing for themselves? If women are equal now, then women can pay for their own shit. If I'm giving her money, I had better be getting something of value in return, and your …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 05:15 PM
1

If he was attractive then she would have fucked him. He didn't get laid, thus, he isn't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 06:28 AM
2

I thought the definition of a "beta" was a man already basically terrified of women? Nope, that's just a man who can't attract a woman for casual sex as his sexuality has no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 06:19 AM
10

If you don't want to fuck her anymore, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 06:11 AM
-3

He was fit and good looking. Not if she rejected him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 08:28 PM
-2

Have you seen how women behave around attractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 07:44 PM
0

Because she was a woman, and a woman being uncomfortable is everyone's problem in our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 06:54 PM
-1

I meant all those women in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 06:22 PM
-1

His main crime is being concerned with the opinions of a bunch of women. But yes, a woman's feelings equal facts for her, and the fact that he is physically unattractive is what makes him creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 06:18 PM
1

Yep. I immediately lose all desire to see the woman ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 09:25 PM
-1

Women like Chad, and Chad likes one night stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 09:20 PM
1

Except women who aren't tall, aren't skinny, aren't blonde, and aren't busty still have thousands of men pursuing them, so they clearly aren't ugly. Men have preferences. Women have requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 02:09 PM
1

"Ugly" women don't exist like "ugly" men exist. Maybe 1 out of 1000 women is "ugly" in general to men, and that's only because she is a burn victim or something. On the other hand, the vast majority of men are ugly to women. So, yes, ugly women probably get treated badly, but ugly women for the most part don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 01:25 AM
1

Not really. Most men would have just as few options as they have now even if men weren't horny as fuck, because most men are simply undesirable to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 10:27 PM
3

Because most men are not sexually attractive enough to get regular sex outside of a relationship. That's why men participate in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 02:07 PM
1

Why would I spend a ton of time, money, and effort to fuck a chick who weighs more than I do (Which are the only ones that I have access to) when I could just spend a few minutes watching porn, get it done with, and go about my day? Porn isn't as good as actual sex, but it's a whole lot less effort than even the least attractive women require.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 04:07 AM
1

It's easy to prefer watching women get fucked when the average American woman: Looks like this Thinks she's a 10/10 and demands that sort of effort to fuck her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 04:06 AM
6

If you want high quality sex, then why put yourself into a position where you can't call her bluff and walk away when you don't get what you want? You're almost certainly not a sexually attractive guy (Very, very few men are), so sex with you is always going to be transactional and now that you have no bargaining chips, why would she ever give you any?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 04:02 AM
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