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oreopimp/r/seduction12/02/13 08:12 PM
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There’s a lot of negative self realities here. Maybe not for you (unless you were talking about yourself) but some guys feel this way, but as a generalization I think less than half genuinely feel like this
/r/seduction04/03/22 05:59 AM
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If you’re at least making eye contact, and/or putting yourself in their proximity it’s not your fault it’s theirs One thing: if you’re in a group, maybe occasionally breakaway and chill at the bar or go get a drink at the bar…you’ll make yourself more approachable to a lot of guys
/r/seduction04/03/22 05:56 AM
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Don’t share your perspective nor the way you choose to view reality, and I’m quite happy that I don’t. This is also the least enticing interaction I’ve had in a while as such it’s not one I view as productive
/r/seduction04/03/22 01:37 AM
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“Cool chick I vibe and have chemistry with”
/r/seduction02/03/22 06:00 AM
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After some conversation tell them they are quite lovely or ‘maybe it’s this shirt/dress/etc you’re wearing but I find you wildly distracting”
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:59 AM
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You have an interesting nature when it comes to other people using casual, conversational colloquialisms
/r/seduction01/03/22 05:34 AM
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You should probably kinda explain whatever it is you're trying to make a point of
/r/seduction01/03/22 12:42 AM
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I have no idea what you're talking about. If there was a point you were trying to elucidate it was not made.
/r/seduction01/03/22 12:36 AM
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I don't get involved with irrational arguments based on fallacies. In this case the fallacy of taking a reasonable argument (mine) and perverting it to extremes as if that makes some kind of rational point. When you're ready to be rational in your way of argumentation, and dialectical, get back to me.
/r/seduction01/03/22 12:24 AM
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Even if you don't know what to say just go up to them anyway. You should notice something comes to mind. Your psychology is going to hate it more standing in front of someone saying nothing than taking a chance and saying something, anything.
/r/seduction28/02/22 09:56 PM
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Remember: your brain is a fine tuned machine sharpened over an unfathomable amount of evolution. If you just go up to even a few people not knowing what to say, your mind will start helping you out positively and will fill your mouth with words and your body with behaviors. Often I myself have no idea what I am going to say...but it's like giving your psychology an ultimatum: either this is going to get very awkward or you can help me out and we can do this thing.
/r/seduction28/02/22 09:51 PM
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You're only a loser if you never try. You got closer this time to facing your fear than you did before. Next time you're get further. As you psychologically acclimate to that further step, you'll get even closer to your goal. Nothing is a disaster, your mind and your psychology uses everything you subject it to to keep growing and learning. It's about the trajectory, not the results.
/r/seduction28/02/22 09:49 PM
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That may be your truth. Which is fine. Doesn't make it THE truth.
/r/seduction28/02/22 09:45 PM
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If you both are 'too awkward' that almost makes it too easy. Because you can just 'awkward' put some low-key suggestion out there and it will be fine. I'd treat this work situation the exact same way I recommend setting up dates, which is you go for a vague "soft close" before you go into a specific "hard close": Whats the social temperature when you first meet: Does he seem happy to see you? Or is he just neutral? This will be your first clue on if it is even a good idea to ask this person out …
/r/seduction28/02/22 11:20 AM
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muscle and business are just end values. They represent something. What they represent are the means values. Like say a girl says she dates tall guys. Tall = end value. Feeling safe (because he is tall) = means value. The means value is the REAL value. Muscle and business just represent honest signals about his character, it's a mix of sexual/reproductive/survival fitness, attraction and the business/money throws security and provider status in mix (but you don't need that last one if you just w…
/r/seduction28/02/22 11:07 AM
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Learn how to have conversations (really) -- start reading things like how to win friends, and watch everything you can on being social and how to carry conversations. How to be curious about the other person, empathy, sympathy. Take your unproductive behaviours and turn them into attractive productive behaviors. Btw, I'd rephrase your issue differently. Instead it should be: "What if my behavior or current attitude is such that I come off emotionless and not talkative?" You're not emotionless an…
/r/seduction28/02/22 11:01 AM
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And if you stay in top shape from this point in your life and on, you easily have another 30-40 years of uphill
/r/seduction28/02/22 10:56 AM
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^ This. And it's not even a woman's fault. We're dealing with a biology where men do not reach full emotional maturity until 43 years of age. Women on the other hand have a kind of earlier radical emotional maturity; I've read women fully emotionally mature at 15 years of age AND THEN CONTINUE TO DEVELOP EMOTIONALLY FROM THERE. Men, they only hit the emotional maturity part at 43 What's a girl going to do in a situation like that 🤷‍♂️
/r/seduction28/02/22 10:54 AM
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Every age is a great age. FYI these days they can replace hips, knees, and pill you up when you get older 👍
/r/seduction28/02/22 10:48 AM
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And if a woman is bragging about all the dicks and banging younger men, and the younger man consents to having sex with her -- hard to also see how that is predatory -- sounds like they both probably had a great time.
/r/seduction28/02/22 10:44 AM
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Predatory behavior seems like a misappropriate label for something that ends with mutual consent.
/r/seduction28/02/22 10:43 AM
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Everyone's unique. Definitely feel that's an outlier experience vs the norm
/r/seduction28/02/22 10:39 AM
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Social judgements very often do not equal biological realities.
/r/seduction28/02/22 10:35 AM
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True. 41 and I date 20-25 year olds on high end of beauty and mental scale. Sometime girls older if we vibe well. Don't worry about wealth or business or any "tangible" bs wealth crap -- those things didn't exist on the savannah of 10k+ years ago where our sexual selectors evolved where you couldn't take much of anything with you on the move in a pre-agricultural society -- what was there, and is still here today, was fitness and social power. Hit the gym lift weights drop fat and get fit (imo) …
/r/seduction28/02/22 10:27 AM
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Humble speaks the truth. There are “shorter” guys out there that live a reality and expectation they date tall beautiful women, and their actual reality is that date tall beautiful women. And as mentioned, it would surprise you how little actual conversation you need to hook up w women. I find most of my genuine conversation comes post hook up tbh
/r/seduction27/02/22 05:52 AM
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This is the way. I always try to give value (and not take value from them), talk up my friends, be curious about guys and girls I talk to and make sure peoples night is genuinely better if I’m in it, regardless if a hook up is involved or not, and I’ve found people and by proxy later their friends seem to enjoy being around me. For the record you did well. In the future, you’ll just smile inwardly at these kinds of things
/r/seduction27/02/22 05:47 AM
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Well you can be a jealous little bitch with a fragile ego…or you can be the dude who gets more than his fair share of women and realize you can’t get 100% of them and be happy for the girl and for your friend. Didn’t work out for you = hell yeah it worked out for your buddy. Also If you’re chill as fuck about this kind of thing, she could very well have some hot friends she’ll bring around some day and they’ll know you’re chill as fuck too The only thing you do not put up with is if any of your …
/r/seduction27/02/22 02:37 AM
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Based on comments like this and your post — you’re the only one keeping yourself down. Your mind is a jail of judgments that have created a reality you’re imprisoned within. Look at everyone one of your problems and judgments, find out what it’s positive opposite is, and make a plan to work towards that.
/r/seduction26/02/22 03:18 AM
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There’s a lot going on here. I get you desire a relationship but a relationship is not going to happen unless she wants it. If you convey you really just want a relationship up front all you’re doing is putting pressure women you don’t really know. Instead of words act through actions as you get to know her. If you want a relationship start something low key and then for example respond as she responds and if she responds more you respond more. If she wants to hang out more or likes you then han…
/r/seduction26/02/22 03:08 AM
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At some point you have to approach. Design whatever mental rules you think you need, but if you’re fun social and look like you got your shit together then the type of approach doesn’t matter just how long you’re talking to them. Longer you talk to them the more they get to see your attractive qualities
/r/seduction26/02/22 02:59 AM
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Hope that helps. Short version: Your mindset and attitude is the first defense and offense against everything socially. Every action you take flows naturally from there.
/r/seduction25/02/22 05:54 PM
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Need to be able to come to have the conclusion be statistically significant. Otherwise, it's just... well... trash. This is the toughest part when you're starting out. There are many reasons a girl won't get back to you after she seemed into you when you met her + until a guy has enough reference experience = a guy likely won't be able to discern if it's his behavior or the girl or just bad timing that is causing the bad run. Just gotta keep going, not let it get you down and over time you'll ge…
/r/seduction25/02/22 02:34 PM
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I just wrote this out. It is longer than I meant it to be. I don't know if it is useful, but I'll post it anyway on the chance you get something out of it, as that was my aim. I hate when things are not going well for others so I like to try and assist if I can. What I think is likely happening is that you're still at the front end of your journey. That's not a bad thing, we we're all there once. It is important though, at least I think so, to embrace the ups and the downs of the process you are…
/r/seduction25/02/22 02:17 PM
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Yeah exactly. Once a girl finds out you’re not possessive and she’s welcome to stay or leave your life whenever she wants you literally see her physically change in a kind of sigh of relief that she can finally just have fun with someone and you’re not going to put any pressure on her. And like you said, it lets her figure things out and what she wants that’s best for herself
/r/seduction23/02/22 06:03 AM
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One thing I’ve noticed in the couple years of being on a different level than before (from what it was like earlier in life): When you’re a man who legitimately doesn’t care to try and push them to be in a relationship + give them the kinds of sexual experience they’ve never had before + treat them as a living person = they will drop their frame completely, even the most stubborn independent women, and they will fall into yours. If I never bring up a relationship they never bring up a relationsh…
/r/seduction23/02/22 02:12 AM
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You seem obsessed w paying for sex. There are those of us that don’t have to. You have no way of accepting the reality I live where often I don’t spend any money on women. Break your small self contained world view, there’s a better way to live my dear
/r/seduction23/02/22 01:53 AM
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Given how amazing your company has been in the comment I’ve known you, the way you marginalize people you don’t know, I imagine you probably do have to pay for that shit lill sugamamma. So while you haven’t made my position any more challenging I can see why you’d think that. For the record: I’m the type built for hot sugar mammas and early retirement, as such the only way I pay for what I get w women with my time and who I am (except on first meet up I do bar hop to a few low key places w cheap…
/r/seduction23/02/22 01:46 AM
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Man I feel for what you’ve been through. If it was me in your position I’d hope to realize nothing in life is fair and since I can’t change it I have to fix what I can. It would probably take a lot of inner work (which I’ve talked about in other comments) and a ton of outer work. The worse things are physically for you as the canvas you were born with, my equation is the more you will have to put into getting into physical peak fitness to compensate. Also since it’s your face you’re concerned ab…
/r/seduction23/02/22 12:08 AM
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Don’t listen to that advice. Absolutely not true. Personal experience: At 41 I date more college age women than college men date. As you get older, if you’ve been doing a good job keeping yourself in physical, emotional and mental shape it’s actually easier for an older guy to connect w younger women physically and emotionally than they were able to when they were younger males
/r/seduction22/02/22 11:45 PM
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I’m 41 and date v good looking intelligent 21-25 year olds, often seeing new girls while still seeing ones I’ve established or am in the middle of establishing casual relationships with. I could list a laundry list of how it’s done — get fit by hitting the gym lifting weights and dropping the body fat (I also recommend take some MMA type training), be an excellent lover (if you are amazing in bed, and you can give her incredible and sometimes uncountable orgasms they will stay around, study how …
/r/seduction22/02/22 11:39 PM
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The floor is no place for a queen
/r/seduction18/02/22 11:13 PM
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Be the Great White Shark to her Remoras (they are the fish keep that take care of the environment around the shark and keep the shark clean of unhealthy organisms and irritating parasites that could adversely affect its health -- she wants you to be the type of man she can be that to) You're the Dr. Loomis to her social man eating Michael Myers. You have her pegged and you find her social baddie attitude cute and amusing. It doesn't phase you. She may be unique but you've seen it before. You're …
/r/seduction18/02/22 11:13 PM
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When you say anti-baddie I'm picturing Napoleon Dynamite lol
/r/seduction18/02/22 11:11 PM
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Minus the money part and you're good to go. (sure it's nice but don't need it)
/r/seduction18/02/22 11:09 PM
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Best thing in the Models book by far is the concept of 'honesty and vulnerability' and the ability to socially calibrate -- using it as a mindset, it is one those those things that I found has changed everything in terms of how I interact with people. It not only helps women feel safe and open up in ways they just don't normally do, but even with guys it can help have deep conversations with guys you meet socially. There are other sources I think are really good I've talked about in past comment…
/r/seduction18/02/22 10:50 PM
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For a woman, I'd say either Put yourself in his physical vicinity. See what happens Compliment something about him (outfit, cologne, behavior). Observe something about him "You seem lost in thoughts. Long day?" Open with some regular social question. "Do you know where such and such is?" or "have you been to x before? Heard about it and it sounds cool" "hey I see you on here all the time, and my mother said never to ride anywhere with strangers. I'm [your name]" etc. Mostly you just want to tran…
/r/seduction18/02/22 05:16 AM
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Openers, keep it simple: ~ [Your name] ;) Hey it's [Your name] ;) Was nice meeting you tonight ~[Your name] If she replies. Usually tease. Otherwise if she is really excited and said "it was awesome meeting you! Had a great time!" then say "We should celebrate with drinks soon" (soft close) If she agrees: say "what nights you free" or "whats your schedule look like" Confirm date. "Sunday 9pm it is" or "Sunday 9pm?" (if she gives options) [Hard close] Day of (even if 4 days later, just text her t…
/r/seduction18/02/22 04:02 AM
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Get less sleep if you have to. Manage time better. Don't worry about motivation, just find a way to do it and you should be able to hustle at least a couple hours in the week to do other things.
/r/seduction18/02/22 03:52 AM
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Side note: If it is on your mind all the time. Look at all the unattractive behaviors you think you have, and put that energy to positive use: read books, watch youtube videos, watch tutorials take notes and day by day use what you learn. Any time you're down: study attraction, study how to be more social, etc. Get other hobbies: gym, rock climbing, reading, etc. If you need to, think about seeing someone professionally (not a lady of the night, but a therapist). Long term depression can physica…
/r/seduction18/02/22 03:38 AM
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You're only a loser if you never try. Brother to brother: you're taking this energy into sets with you. If you feel this way, to this extent, the energy and the actions you take from being in this place emotionally is the reason you don't have the success you are looking for. It is an absolute truth: A hungry dog doesn't get fed. You are always down for it, but you don't need it. You need to find a way to want it, but not stake your life on it.
/r/seduction18/02/22 03:35 AM
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“that shits whack” side note: I want to put this on a t-shirt. Brother to brother: It sounds like a lot may be happening. You ever take computer science? They teach you to take a big project and break it down to chunks. Then you take those chunks and transform them into small attainable steps -- and then over a period of time, the project gets completed. In this case the project is becoming a better version of you. Break it down to CHUNKS: What are your problems? What do you see as problems? Wha…
/r/seduction18/02/22 03:24 AM
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Yes, I can lose it at any time, but knowing that I worked hard for it and at least had it at one point makes me feel good. There may be confusion. If you define success as the job you have and the money you make from it, and that is your litmus test for what is successful -- then by definition, what is successful is something outside of you and required to be acknowledged by other and can be stripped from you at any time. So it's not really a true 'success' born from inside who you are that can …
/r/seduction18/02/22 03:10 AM
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Lot of over complication going on here. If you invite a girl out, pay for the first date out. Don’t argue or worry about money. As such you should be smart what your first dates entail. For me it’s a low key bar hop to 2-3 places. Vibe well at first place, move to second place, as things are escalating physically an emotionally usually by place 2 or 3 we’ve already kissed. If vibe is off, easy to end date at first spot. If vibe is on, then she’s just come with you to 3 places and had a great tim…
/r/seduction18/02/22 02:10 AM
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Variety of reasons. Mostly how I carry myself socially. One of the girls I got together with last week told me soon as she saw me the way I carried myself she thought 'no man can act that way unless he knows he's good in bed' -- true I do believe that (note: incredible important to be the kind of lover that gives her the kind of time in bed she loves thinking about later) but mostly it's the attitude that I bring a lot of value into the lives of those that meet me, and I know it. In regards to s…
/r/seduction18/02/22 01:39 AM
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Get successful enough and you’ll get yourself a cute ass girl no problem You can be a beach bum with little to no money and have a cute ass girl problem. It all depends on your relative social value compared to hers. Some people want that absolute value (money, financial success etc) but you don't need them. No matter what a man's goal is, if he's focused on himself, and has any kind of social value between him/her or him and a group of people he'll do fine. Also if you validate yourself through…
/r/seduction18/02/22 01:16 AM
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I personally call this the Casanova Effect. I mean think about it: Kanye West openly freaking out over another guy is HYPING Davidson's social status through the roof. This man dates a Kardashian + gets Kanye to lose his shit while laughing about it and taking it in good humor. God, it's beautiful.
/r/seduction17/02/22 11:51 PM
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I feel like 90% of the responses to you are not helpful. Without a lot of context to work with, what you texted, what the conversation was like here's a couple ways to handle. The first thing I want to say before I move forward, is that it sounds like maybe you didn't set up a date correctly. There is a path that makes this incredibly easy. And it later makes it incredibly easy if she says "I'll let you know" or stops responding -- because if you know what part of the process she stopped respond…
/r/seduction17/02/22 11:24 PM
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Often I don't respond. Or maybe I'll say 'get that sleep' or 'ditto' or 'you too' or 'night, trouble' or :smiling devil face emoji: or :ass slap emoji: (plum + hand wave emoji)
/r/seduction17/02/22 10:55 PM
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you ruined everything
/r/seduction17/02/22 10:54 PM
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One thing I've noticed, as someone who is with women v often, the more women you are with and the more sex you have, the more you want it. Like I can feel satiated in the moment, but an hour or two later the cycle of desire starts again in full force. As long as you can deal with that desire and not let it motivate you in unhealthy ways, and focus on meaningful fun connections, and you add value to their life -- then imo there's worse ways to live life.
/r/seduction17/02/22 10:50 PM
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Everyone is different though Only do something you enjoy. This includes women ;)
/r/seduction17/02/22 10:44 PM
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When u had alot of sex already you don't really care, just jack it and go on about your day I don't do this anymore because it saps my desire. I just got a text 20 min ago from a woman she wants to come over in a couple hours. If I had jacked off earlier I would have little desire to see her. I like to keep desire, libido and testosterone as high as possible. IMO if you're getting enough sex, I recommend to not masturbate anymore, instead have great sex and let her feel all that animalistic desi…
/r/seduction17/02/22 10:43 PM
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Biological nature is not a flawed mentality. It IS the mentality. OP stated something that should be seen as a truth, when you get laid consistently, your life as a biological male is better in every way. What he didn't say was making pussy the prize. Pussy is great, but if you're doing it right you can take or leave pussy, you don't need it, you just desire it. ​ Maybe it's cause I don't Jack off, watch porn etc - I'm extra hungry Get enough women texting you for booty calls you won't need to d…
/r/seduction17/02/22 10:33 PM
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^ this. Only way to transcend your true biological nature is to be a self-imposed celibate monk
/r/seduction17/02/22 10:25 PM
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Exactly. You'll either see her again or you won't. What does it hurt to send a non-needy text her way: if she is going to see you at some point, she'll respond...if she wasn't planning to see you again, maybe she'll respond. So imo you actually increase your chances of success.
/r/seduction17/02/22 10:18 PM
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Should I? Ive been told to never text a second time if she doesnt answer the first one This advice is given by men that have zero idea how often they are costing themselves opportunties. It's the kind of advice from someone with zero calibration -- as their attitude is "it's either 0 or it's 10 and there is no inbetween" -- people don't operate like that. Should you? Yes you should. Give her a gentle non-needy push, that covertly tells her hey we were talking, you forgot to answer me. So what ki…
/r/seduction17/02/22 01:44 AM
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Maybe to be socially polite / nice instead of saying no — this is the way She has a life, you have a life. She may get back to you days or a week later. Could be seeing someone — see reason 2 If you don’t hear back in a week, text something short and simple: hey trouble, happy Saturday (or something else based on interaction — nothing that requires investment of her, just something she can choose to respond to. Note: one girl did something similar and I sent her a short tease response and she re…
/r/seduction16/02/22 07:30 AM
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Why give up when you can have what you want with the real thing
/r/seduction16/02/22 07:21 AM
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I'm not gunna lie I am fucking sick of hearing this from my friends who I am not pursuing but I totally would. First sentence you diagnosed your own problem. You are the spark that ignites the flames. If you're not the one trying to make fire, you're going to hear about the ones that are
/r/seduction16/02/22 01:26 AM
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Btw, even though my comments are sometimes straight forward, blunt -- it's from a place of love. To wake you out of your stupor. Appreciate you, and the award my friend. Also, based on your own reaction in this thread, you my friend are going to go far 👍
/r/seduction16/02/22 01:19 AM
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Btw you are spot on. Just be chill. You have a life. She has a life. One girl I see regularly 1-2x a week for the last 4 months, it took a little over a month to finally meet up. She canceled multiple times. She later told me one of the reasons she did meet up was I was wildly chill and just didn’t seem to give a shit and occasionally told her to make it up to me later.
/r/seduction15/02/22 05:08 AM
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Appreciate that. One thing I want to mention is push / pull is a concept, not exact lines. It should be an on the fly thing that comes from a frame where you’re not all about every girl you meet, because no matter how hot she is, you have no idea who she is, so you need to be a discriminating male. Push pull works 1. in the moment (example: that you simple think you guys “might” get along) or 2. as an energy flow (example texting: maybe the guy is texting too much or trying to hard too get toget…
/r/seduction15/02/22 04:56 AM
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In retrospect, I should've possibly responded by saying, "Yes, you." That is an excellent way of handling it the wrong way Better: If the friend is talking to her: ignore it completely. be unaffected by it. In fact, I would find it highly amusing. And when the woman you were speaking to turns back to you, you can joke with her that 'I had no idea you had a bodyguard with you tonight' (even funnier if it's another woman) If the friend is talking to you: off the top of my head handle it like a shi…
/r/seduction15/02/22 01:58 AM
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It's two things imo: Don't escalate on a 'negative' -- you really only want to push forward when things are positive. If she cancels and doesn't offer another time, I see that as a negative, definitely below neutral. Look at behavior as pushing and pulling. If she cancels and doesn't offer a new time -- and you 'push' for a new time to meet, that could push the likelihood you guys will ever meet away. But if you 'pull' by not asking for a new time, or saying 'no worries' or making fun of her or …
/r/seduction15/02/22 01:39 AM
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What people really need to do is learn how to not take things like this personally. Absolutely.
/r/seduction15/02/22 01:35 AM
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Ignore this imo. Be a man of opportunity. The idea of thinking too deeply into why they cancel + the feeling of offense that you need to take it to a level to 'next' them = shows that you feel slighted, which means they affect you, which means in some way you have a value issue going on. Who cares what a girl does? Girls are emotional, flighty, and if you already know this you pre-plan for it. Stuff like this shouldn't even affect you, or phase you. The idea that you would 'next' a potential 'fr…
/r/seduction15/02/22 01:33 AM
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I think you misread, it's not a mantra. Just a piece of advice from my old man Yeah sounds like I did indeed So I'll keep my plates in their place til one eventually earns a higher spot This is the way ;)
/r/TheRedPill12/02/22 01:00 AM
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Something I do want to say is everyone (guys and girls) should learn what it is to be an attractive healthy person both to themselves and to the opposite sex, and work on replacing unproductive negative behaviors they acquired unconsciously or from bad parenting or from the imago of the bad relationship their parents had and instead replace those negatives w positive healthy and attractive behaviors. It’s a multistage process to do this and at first you might need frameworks of what this even me…
/r/seduction12/02/22 12:29 AM
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The other thing. Worry about what you think, not what they think. Be someone that offers value imo. For me I believe they will have a better time knowing me than not knowing me, and we’ll both have an amazing positive experience together, and that overrides anything I think they could be thinking or perceiving and often that frame I hold is stronger than any perceived frame a woman could have before she’s had a chance to meet me
/r/seduction12/02/22 12:09 AM
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Bad press is better than no press. If it helps people in my life: family, co-workers, women think I’m some kind of incubus (their word). I’m always social w everyone when out, always talking to women or with women and it’s only been a net positive. As long as you don’t have a player vibe, and more a fun masculine man vibe who doesn’t hide his sexuality keep it up!
/r/seduction12/02/22 12:00 AM
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If you have to have a mantra “never give a woman everything” that means you’re legitimately worried she’ll leave you if you do, so it’s like a inverse form of approval seeking behavior. You can share yourself, be open honest and vulnerable yet she can know she’s not your everything because you have a life and purpose and may even be seeing other women. But to hold back in her presence, to wear a mask, as if you’re afraid she can’t take everything you have to give, or will read passion as weaknes…
/r/TheRedPill11/02/22 11:47 PM
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Yeah this an almost negative, emotional and subjective outlook of someone at the beginnings of their path expounding an answer. Better from now on to be like Socrates “I know nothing” instead of assuming to know everything, this way you will constantly learn and become more and more self-aware. Think of it like this: we’re all in a matrix, you’re higher level than some, but much lower level than others. LTRs are actually incredibly easy. I prefer casual relationships w many women currently, but …
/r/TheRedPill11/02/22 11:42 PM
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There's more to add to this but definitely: Playing with Fire (YouTube) -- excellent for being laconic and sexualizing conversations. How to quickly set up dates. Along with Corey Wayne's book and YouTube channel, it is a killer mindset combo. Todd Valentine (his courses are good, especially Verbal Academy, but his YouTube is solid) and with him there should be an eye opening video on baseline (normal conversation) vs plotline (spiking emotions and also making the conversation man-to-woman) so y…
/r/seduction11/02/22 03:15 PM
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Everything. Being honest and vulnerable, just saying what's on your mind or sharing a part of yourself and putting yourself out there exposed allows the other person to realize you just created a space for them to do the same and share about themselves in a non-judgmental way. Or vice versa -- a first date I was recently on girl shared a big emotional story and was feeling exposed and vulnerable so I appreciated her sharing it, shared a vulnerable story about myself coming from an emotionally an…
/r/seduction11/02/22 03:00 PM
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Solid way to handle that, my man. If she wants more, just an attitude of 'sure give me a call or lets catch a quick coffee" or "would you rather type about yourself or actually show and tell me about yourself" and did a pretty good job keeping her entertained Might just be the way you typed this, but if not, the frame to come from is: sure maybe she's cute but is she doing a pretty good job investing and keeping ME entertained?
/r/seduction11/02/22 02:53 PM
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3% is key imo for a absolutely straight forward mental mindset on having fun and letting the woman be the one to initiate a long term relationship, and for the laid back attitude you should have in communication and texting — basically to eradicate all forms of neediness But mixing into that foundation the mindsets from Playing with Fire and stuff from Todd V etc — little pushes (especially in terms of dealing with no responses, how often to reach out or respond, how laconic you should be in you…
/r/seduction11/02/22 01:33 PM
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Mark Manson is excellent — especially for his concept of honesty and vulnerability, which is huge imo. Being honest and vulnerable with who you are and tailoring that to be shown while flirting, while getting to know a guy or woman, even during sex is a huge source of social strength in how you carry yourself in the world
/r/seduction11/02/22 12:21 PM
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Read some of my comments for sources and more specifics to help with this (cutting the fat off — read 3% man by Corey Wayne and watch his YouTube channel — and also Playing With Fire YouTube channel — it will dramatically improve your texting mindset). Use texting 90% to make plans, 10% to spice things up. Invest as she invests. Only get to know her in person. Don’t do bf relationship stuff like good mornings etc — let her reach out to you and make moves to be in a relationship with you first an…
/r/seduction11/02/22 11:39 AM
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You’re only a loser if you never try and never put yourself on the trajectory to improve. Ps. Don’t ever talk about yourself like that again
/r/seduction11/02/22 11:29 AM
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OPs problem is he’s thinking Absolute value (his place in the world) vs Relative Value (the immediate value he has with any girl he’s talking with vs what she perceives to be her value compared to his) Also tangible wealth pales in compassion to social value and social power — our brains still operate on the Savannah rules of 10k years ago
/r/seduction11/02/22 11:25 AM
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Always approach Always be ready to approach (find a look you like, including clothes, cologne, hair cut, etc. Lift weights to get fit, wear shirts or accessories a girl can comment on, yada yada yada). Never leave the house unless you feel comfortable physically and dress wise being able to go up and talk to a girl.
/r/seduction11/02/22 11:24 AM
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Sounds like an inner value problem. You put her on a level, or many levels actually, above you in terms of value. I’d guess you’re putting that type of energy out into the world with others. Why not instead realize you dated an extraordinarily hot woman and just internalize that’s your level of “normal” — you’re the guy that dates hot women. If you internalize and act like a man that dates physically hot women that’s something that should make you smile — and when talking to any woman, even the …
/r/seduction11/02/22 11:18 AM
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You can also be wealthy as fuck but look like a bum, drive a 20 years old broken car, dress from Walmart but the way you talk and walk and your confidence will ooze out all the attractive sub cues that having money brings to people and you will be still attractive. That's not "rich" as in tangible wealth. You're confusing rich with social power, and absolute value with relative value. Just being rich doesn't get you laid. Even Dan Bilzerian would tell you there's tons and tons of rich dudes who …
/r/TheRedPill08/02/22 08:19 PM
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Being tall and handsome can be bypassed super easily by being rich and fit. Fit yes, rich no. Rich is a tangible modern thing, tangible richness didn't exist on the savannahs of 10k years ago. Today "betas" of all types can be rich. Instead you just need to be fit and have the attractive traits she has no choice to respond to. When it comes to "richness" what was considered rich are the primal things that turned a woman on during the hunter-gather stage and still turn a woman on today are social…
/r/TheRedPill08/02/22 10:07 AM
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It's past the anger phase where hypergamy works in YOUR favor. Dudes who fear hypergamy are the type of dudes who have to fear hypergamy
/r/TheRedPill08/02/22 09:58 AM
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Life advice: never pay attention to read receipts. And always keep your read receipts off.
/r/seduction07/02/22 04:04 PM
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Insanity Wolf -- you're a sane mofo in my book
/r/seduction07/02/22 04:00 PM
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I find it hard to refrain from saying something petty due to my bruised ego. Brother to brother: sounds like your inner bitch is trying to take control of the steering wheel What you do if your inner bitch isn't shouting in your ear: Pick up where you left off. Just send back 'hey trouble' If you were a chill motherfucker -- this wouldn't even phase you. Ego just gets in the way. Why give this woman the remote control to your emotional center. Also if you were chill, this would be looked at like…
/r/seduction07/02/22 03:58 PM
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okay okay okay OKAY--- Mantra time: Do not talk about, don't push and don't mention anything about a relationship unless she brings it up. THIS MEANS FOR PURPOSEFUL CASUAL RELATONSHIPS AS WELL. Instead: JUST. BE. -- be what you want to be. Be that casual guy presence. Don't talk about it. She asks what you want: "chill girl I vibe and have chemistry with" = that is the most you should ever talk about it. If she pushes for more than that: "you just walked into my life. I have no idea who you are.…
/r/seduction07/02/22 03:44 PM
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My favorite relationships started with sex on the 1st or 2nd date, due to the strong sexual tension between me and my partner. This right here. Anything more than this no matter how much I may like the girl, I definitely would be hanging out with others. To OP: she did mention her boundaries. You genuinely have to be cool with that, while occasionally doing your job and pushing slightly against her boundaries a little and seeing if she responds positively or in the negative -- but you have to re…
/r/seduction07/02/22 03:36 PM
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Without having a real conversation with you and getting more specifics: I don't know if it was right or not. If there was no label, that's one thing, everything is fair play really. If there was no label, but he implied or there was an agreed exclusivity, that's a different story and is a big no no for me. You know your situation best, you have to do what's right for you. I genuinely don't believe in ghosting: you don't like it, I don't like it, nobody does, even if it feels called for -- usuall…
/r/seduction07/02/22 03:30 PM
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Don't listen to that imo. The only good rule is until she's invested in you and desires to hear true compliments on what you think of her -- keep compliments tailored to stuff she wasn't born with. Example: Instead of 'you look great' = 'that dress looks great on you' The only time I don't pay attention to this, is often when I meet a girl on the first date, I walk up to her, when we hug, I kiss her on the cheek lightly, glide hands down from shoulders to her hand, step back look at her and some…
/r/seduction07/02/22 03:05 PM
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Ladies dig subtext not so much direct. Unless your dick is in then or about to be. Them direct is great. Honestly I believe this is the way. Verbally mostly subtext at first -- examples might be: more push-pulls, teasing, compliments focused more on how something looks on her or her doing something looks cute/adorable whatever -- most of the overt stuff is a physical escalation tailored on how she responds. As sex gets closer, less subtext. Sex happening, alright boys it's time for full on dirty…
/r/seduction07/02/22 03:00 PM
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want sum fuk?
/r/seduction07/02/22 02:55 PM
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"Have you or your family ever seen a spook, spectre or ghost?"
/r/seduction07/02/22 02:54 PM
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Think of it like this: being direct makes it Man to Woman at a high and overt level. If you are an attractive man, you can go in with anything, even a "hey" or "hey excuse me" "you must be from the midwest the way you're surviving this cold" [she responds] "any lessons from home you can pass on?") and within the conversation make it man to woman more subtly by using push-pulls (you're trouble, don't look at me like that, you and I wouldn't get along, I wasn't sure about that dress but you're cha…
/r/seduction07/02/22 02:53 PM
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Your new mantra: There will be zero pushes for a relationship unless SHE brings it up. (see my previous comments for sources to help out with this and things to watch/read to get a better mindset) Post it on your mirror until it becomes natural You went on 4 dates and already it sounds like you're living through the end of a relationship -- likely your behavior with this woman conveyed the pressure of a relationship in many different ways. Just hook up have fun, and be chill. If you need more fe…
/r/seduction07/02/22 02:26 PM
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Yeah I feel you. I think 3 workouts is solid, I keep fit on 3 workouts a week. Other places I recommend are really what work best for you, but imo the best way to be the most productive is to make it a place that you can both go to solo AND on a date. For me, that's bars. For you that might be a bar, a coffee shop, restaurant, etc.And if you can only go to 1 more place -- maybe 1 week go to one place, another week to a 2nd place, 3rd week back to 1st place, 4th week back to 2nd place -- so you g…
/r/seduction07/02/22 01:35 PM
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Girl I was on a date with tonight expressed the same. And I agree with her. IMO the only way that I think would be appropriate is by just being social with both guys and girls in the gym, being a social butterfly in a way with zero agenda, and through multiple conversations read the tea leaves and if there is a legitimate spark there then go for it -- but not unless some interest from her has been expressed because you both go to the same place and you don't want to make it uncomfortable for her…
/r/seduction07/02/22 01:09 PM
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Here's how to remedy it and create a social life as well as social proof through others: Find 2-4 places you like to hang out -- both on your own AND where you can bring women too -- you become a regular, you establish relationships with the staff and with the people that frequent the place and guess what happens = what happens is this...while on a first date with a beautiful lady tonight -- went to 3 places I normally hang out solo or with others (and these places also make for a good bar hop 1…
/r/seduction07/02/22 12:56 PM
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I've been thinking about it. There are likely many different cylinders firing at once. But I've been thinking it has a lot to do with conveying as a man to the woman that you're down for sex but not hungry for sex. Like its subtle and in the background but it kind of underlies a charge to the interaction, that slight desire that feeds the flirting and the energy. Highly recommend bartending. Especially at a place where lovely women frequent. You have to run more low key social circle game but it…
/r/seduction31/01/22 12:39 AM
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^ One person's strong, extremely subjective, personal viewpoint (on what they think is right and of worth for others because it worked for them and their psychological history) but is now hopefully farther along in his path to see that there is always (imo) some value in everything. Even what is not "valuable" adds value by allowing one the ability self-distinguish own self-preferences in a way they likely may not have been able to before coming across this thing they found little worth in. Exce…
/r/seduction31/01/22 12:26 AM
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An example from tonight actually where I’m bartending and have to usually be indirect (sometimes I get really direct but often I like to keep it indirect and like I’m attracted but not super invested)…beautiful woman walks up w friend they don’t know what they want and ask for 30 second “alright 30 second it is, I’m Starting a timer now so I’ll be right back” most of the “flirting” is direct eye contact while talking, eye contact and a slight smile when I look over, etc. I usually do physical co…
/r/seduction29/01/22 11:40 AM
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I honestly think there's some pheromone shit going on behind the scenes - women seem to be able to smell desperation on me even if I feel like I'm acting normally. I have no idea based on what you said of why they think you are desperate. Maybe try something next time you are out. Don't have an agenda. You see a woman you desire or find attractive, you just want to get to know her. You have zero expectations of sex etc. You guys are just having fun right here and now. Maybe keep compliments v lo…
/r/seduction29/01/22 02:54 AM
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Most are try hard. But if you are light hearted, having fun, don't really care but at the same time have a man to woman frame (where you are a man and she is a woman and even non-verbally she can tell the man finds her somewhat or totally desirable here and there throughout the conversation), as well as not having expectations but being prepared for anything, and not having an agenda in mind while talking to her other than she caught your eye and you want to get to know her = you are more likely…
/r/seduction29/01/22 02:44 AM
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Natural is a bit of a misnomer. I think it's beyond rare (Ive never seen it) to have someone who's natural at all aspects of seduction and relationships. Usually you find guys good at one aspect: maybe approaching, or attitude, maybe texting, maybe it's holding down long term relationships and keeping them sexy -- but to find a guy that can do it all, I doubt there is a 'natural' out there like that. More likely if you do see someone like that they are a natural in 1 or 2 areas and strived to ge…
/r/seduction29/01/22 02:40 AM
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Since this sounds like the beginning of hanging out...in my shoes things would be super low key casual, I'm seeing other girls and she may or may not be seeing other guys (until she brings up wanting a relationship, there is zero talk on being exclusive or interest on my part). So since things are casual I wouldn't even care just say something like "wild" (like an acknowledgement of what she said but really means 'why are you telling me this story, what does this have to do with me') if she kept…
/r/seduction29/01/22 02:34 AM
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Has to do with how you value yourself. It's easy with girls you don't care about because on some unconscious level you are of higher value then they are, so you don't really care. But when you find a girl you are attracted to, all of a sudden she is higher value than you value yourself: what she thinks and HOW SHE evaluates what you say and do matters more to you than HOW YOU evaluate your actions. You're in your head, you're not being your natural self, you're unconsciously putting on some bs m…
/r/seduction28/01/22 02:47 AM
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when all it really takes is being confident in yourself Guy who knows the answer to everything it takes to attract women creeps on sub about attracting women, dislikes whole sub isn't just saying bumper sticker slogans "just be confident in yourself bro" No worries bro, if you moody about it, have fun, start your own sub. Btw, "being confident in yourself" is in itself an encyclopedia of unconscious and conscious behaviors. As much as your phrasing makes it seem like it lacks unfathomable depths…
/r/seduction28/01/22 01:43 AM
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Why tack on almost useless advice. Slap a couple generic bumper stickers on him, wish him well and send him off to war. Jesus. Guys should already be honest with who they are. And 2) unless one feels some wild need to do so one does not ever need to talk about what the relationship is, women are wildly intuitive and if she wants more of you’re time she will reach out and invest in you more and more
/r/seduction27/01/22 09:23 PM
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Meeting and talking with various women you find attractive is a problem? Meeting and talking with various women you find attractive and finding one or multiple women that want to sleep with you (or see you again) is a problem? That’s called fun. If that’s seen as a problem maybe spend your time on something else that entertains you ;)
/r/seduction27/01/22 08:54 PM
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Easy. Meet a girl. Be laid back and chill in terms of hanging out, if you hang out for drinks and whether anything or not happens don't make plans to see her at the end of the date/hang-out instead tell her you had a great time and you'll see her around. If you don't hear from her text her in 4-5 days and ask something like 'what's your schedule look like this week?" If you do hook up, I will typically send something the next morning. Usually a quick 'had a great time last night ;)" or 'last nig…
/r/seduction27/01/22 02:14 PM
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^ Truth. Effective. Zero nonsense. Easy to follow. Aims for the perfect attractive body type. I was on an overly masochistic workout and nutrition program and converted over to Kinobody Moviestar in late 2020 have haven't looked back
/r/seduction27/01/22 01:36 PM
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Getting fit is phenomenal for personal growth. Unbelievable what it does to your mindsets. But if you don’t know why a passive attractor is great study investing. Put in a little time and effort then you just let your investment(s) work for you, speaking for you with you not having to do a thing to earn those benefits in the moment of every room you walk into
/r/seduction26/01/22 10:33 AM
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Calibrate. Pay attention to your actions and her actions. It sounds like maybe you’re always initiating (a push) and she’s not (a pull). So maybe do a pull of your own by not asking for anything, keeping it chill which will allow her to fill the space and come toward you with a push of her own (her asking when you’re going to go out again or planning a day to go out). Keep the push pull dynamic in mind and see what happens. So just keep pulling whenever you talk (meaning you don’t ask to go out …
/r/seduction25/01/22 10:33 PM
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Notice something and then comment on how it affects your guy’s relationship: “when I first saw you in that dress I wasn’t sure we’d get along but you seem pretty cool” Push pull - if you start w a positive follow w a negative vice versa: you seem like fun but something tells me you’re also trouble” or “I kind of hate you and kind of love you” During conversation add emotional spikes: “do you know how distracting you are. Stop it” or “you look pretty fucking adorable in that dress” or just stare …
/r/seduction25/01/22 10:27 PM
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Who knows. Some girls that it’s hot with can take days to respond. How she responds, her actions and how you handle things from here will show you the truth. This is the way
/r/seduction25/01/22 10:19 PM
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Good resources to start with: 1. Corey Wayne - 3% man. Helps set up a solid framework and helps you realize how little you need to be texting and never chasing. Also has tons of YouTube videos. Playing with Fire - YouTube channel that will upend and change your text game. When integrated with Corey Waynes stuff you will become a sexy text beast Sure take screenshots and write down lines and notes you like from these resources but most of all work to Understand the mindsets behind why they say an…
/r/seduction25/01/22 10:13 PM
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I have no idea what Old is, but I recommend everyone meet women in person and at most only use any online resource as a passive tool you have in the background but never as your main source for meeting others
/r/seduction25/01/22 10:09 PM
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I was always naturally good with women, even when I had self doubts when younger and not in the best shape. When I dropped 50 pounds and got in crazy shape (using Kinobody if anyones curious because it tailors to the body shape I was aiming for) it’s become a wildly passive attractor. I bartend, I’m 41 but don’t look like it, beauty is subjective but in terms of physical fitness I usually have the best body in the room and it’s something you just notice that has an effect on others in the room. …
/r/seduction25/01/22 10:04 PM
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Times to be overly gamey and times not to be overly gamey. Moderation my man. Lol
/r/seduction25/01/22 09:57 PM
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On a high point after some conversation or multiple little conversations: “you seem fun. What’s your number”
/r/seduction25/01/22 09:53 PM
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"bitch get over here"
/r/seduction25/01/22 03:39 AM
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Haven't lived your experience, so it's hard to say if it's a routine or just the way attraction works. If you're literally doing the same thing you can always find ways to keep it wild and entertaining. Relationship game is harder. But I'll break it down simply what works for me: Let her decide when you're moving toward a relationship. Until then don't pressure her to be your girl. Just low key hang out with her, text only to make plans, and if she wants to communicate beyond that then communica…
/r/seduction25/01/22 03:31 AM
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I get that, it's sweet and a nice idea for a date. But save that stuff for much later on when girls have actually earned it. This girl, regardless of what you think, in two weeks has not really earned something like that yet. It should be a special thing...but things like that are really only special if she's totally invested. Keep things low key, fun, hooking up, hanging out, etc at the beginning. It gives you a place to move up from as you both invest later on.
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:57 AM
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Only thing stopping you is yourself. You have a lot of damning self-talk even in your comment to me. The exercise I mentioned should be like a breathe of fresh air, so easy as there are not expectations beyond it. If you're not weird or creepy...you might want to look into re-framing the way you view your interactions with others. Makes me sad that you have that mindset my man, wish I could magic wand it away for you
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:55 AM
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I shouldn't have mentioned the orbiters as I figured it would confuse the issue, as there are always orbiters or male friends that have emasculated themselves hoping to be magically anointed by pussy for their crimes of self-torture What I mean is this: just assume a girl is not fully single. She is likely at the very least getting casually fucked. There is likely one guy she calls when she is bored or alone to come and rail her. This is often truer than you think and the times it is not she is …
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:52 AM
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As you're walking to the copier slap her hard on the ass and yell behind you as you walk on "coffee at 12 Debra!"
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:45 AM
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Just try something next time you are out, doesn't matter if you are attracted to the girl or not (better if you are) -- just do it to 50%-100% of women you come across: Tell them "You look fantastic in that...[dress or whatever they are wearing] Don't worry about conversation. You can lightly touch them on the shoulder or arm as you walk up and just saying something like the above and then walk on as if you were heading to your friends or the bathroom. Sometimes you will be pulled into conversat…
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:36 AM
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One girl tried to do this to me. Held her hips down her as she tried to squirm away, it was like riding a goddamn bronco until she came.
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:29 AM
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Give her some time, buy her something for work (a nice blanket or some chocolates or something). OP, only do this once she is re-investing. This isn't a misogynistic thing, but if you do this now, it will almost assuredly push her away even more with how distant she is being right now
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:26 AM
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Not only facts. Gospel She pulls back. You pull back. Don't ask for anything. Create a vacuum she can fill.
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:23 AM
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"Bob ross painting night 👨🏽‍🎨" -- dude really? Specifically: You're moving at warp speed with a girl who's giving you all the signs to slow down. You push, she steps back. You push, she steps back. Etc. You've got to be more intuitively aware my man...stop thinking of what you want and pay attention to what she needs. Also when a girl is not only stepping back...but is giving you minimal responses...that is not the time to bust out the grand 'Bob ross painting night' -- I wouldn't offer anything…
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:20 AM
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"There's a girl I work with who was low-key flirting with me for a while so we started talking and I fell madly in love" *facepalm* Dude, it's up to the girl to push for a relationship. Any time the guy does it never works unless you some how 'lucked' into finding another co-dependent person. The answer is: just stop. The only way anything would work is if you didn't care, that sure you desire her, but if she doesn't reciprocate you'd just hang out with another girl or chill reading a book at a …
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:04 AM
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People over think this. It's simple: Just have a strong man to woman frame. You're a man, she's a woman, and you desire her and find her sexy but you're also trying to decide if you want to spend the time getting to know her. Then to "sexualize" a conversation just add some emotional spikes to normal conversation with a woman. How? Just interject things like: *Strong Eye contact with silence* she might respond "what?" you can say 'nothing, just looking at you' or 'having a hard time not realizin…
/r/seduction25/01/22 01:24 AM
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Girls are imo never 100% single. Usually there’s always some form of companionship, even orbiters or male “friends”…often something casual. If a girl brings it up it’s all in the way she says it. Anything said outside of married or boyfriend just ask “marriage material or casual?” Or “serious or casual?” Then depending just say “i think we’d have fun, let’s hang out sometime” Better is to have some small plan or fun you’re already going to do and invite her along. If she tells you don’t expect a…
/r/seduction23/01/22 07:18 AM
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Oh yeah it may not have been mentioned in my reply but embracing, and even loving failure is a must. Same way it works with a job, a hobby, anything new you try…you have no muscle or psychological memory or mindsets to initially rely upon outside the ones you bring into it (and even those may harm you at first)…but you have to laugh, smile and treat everything as a growth opportunity and something to note for next time. Your brain is also a product of an unfathomable amount of time of evolution …
/r/seduction23/01/22 06:32 AM
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Literally anything they talk about. They bring something up, you can easy get it emotional by focusing on her and finding out more about her Character, Motivations, Feelings -- and then relating or challenging/disagreeing with her on what you're talking about. Example conversation: You: Haven't seen you around before. You don't strike me as a local. Her: I just moved to Portland you: really, where'd you move from? Her: Ohio You: I got to ask, what made you take the chance on moving from Ohio to …
/r/seduction11/01/22 06:45 AM
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These are excellent resources. 3% Man -- will help instill the idea of backing the hell off. To relax. The most important points is keeping texting to minimum: its use is to build some minimal attraction and set up dates, with little communication in between. The other important idea is, as a man, do not be the one to bring up the idea of a relationship or push for a relationship. Let the woman have the pleasure of becoming closer to you and be the one to suggest being exclusive. Until then, don…
/r/seduction11/01/22 06:29 AM
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That’s incredibly kind of you my man 🙏 I hope so, I just try to be my best self and hold myself accountable and through that hopefully others who come across my path socially have a better time than they would have if they we hadn’t met (while also having my own strong personal boundaries)
/r/seduction11/01/22 01:41 AM
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I appreciate the compliment, I’m extremely glad you found it helpful. I’ve been thinking about writing something or making occasional posts, something I’ll probably follow through with in the future. Feel free to ask any questions as even I make sure to keep aware and keep learning everyday. As Plato talked about if each man cultivates his abilities he will be happy and healthy and through that individual cultivation the state (women and individuals in your life) will also be happy and healthy a…
/r/seduction10/01/22 10:30 AM
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Like I'm reading a book/advice from someone and if it works, it's the person's advice that worked, not me. The girl liked the implemented advice/fake me. Not me my original myself. When you go to college, get a degree, and use that knowledge to get a job in a new field -- and you then use that knowledge you learned within that new field -- is that you doing the work or purely the advice and foundational knowledge you learned doing the work? You are getting into a philosophical area where 1. is n…
/r/seduction10/01/22 08:31 AM
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The guys and women at the bar I bartend at literally think I am an incubus (a male succubus) because within a minute or two while girls, even guys, are ordering drinks they go from 0 to 60 emotionally and socially. It’s not even something I try to do it just happens, along with getting fit, natural charm these are some resources that helped create my own principals where I’m a man you’re a woman I desire you, you look like fun and trouble but I’m not going to chase you: 1. 3 Percent Man will giv…
/r/seduction10/01/22 01:35 AM
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Much of your comment is fill with beliefs, which compared to my experience, are ones that I find incredibly limiting. It's not good or bad, as it's what works for you, but it's a perspective which has no relation to the perspective I live within. You can have casual sex, casual relationships and still be discriminating, I am. I often have many existing options, and frequently find myself with new potential options...and even before it gets to choosing between existing and new options...there is …
/r/seduction24/12/21 02:49 PM
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Follow up to my previous message: If you're that desperate to not want to break contact with her (which is a desperate idea) -- you need to realize how silly that idea is. It leads no where good. 1. You either show desperation and push her away with your neediness. or 2. You are going to land in some kind of weird friendzone. What you need to do is realize, if sex and the kind of relationship you want is not on the table = you are out. You are done. If she doesn't want that kind of relationship …
/r/seduction24/12/21 02:25 PM
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No idea what her exact msg was, but just reply: "no worries. lmk when you figure it out." You guys just kissed, you didn't even have sex...and even if you did have sex, which would have only been once...you should really be looking at her message with the mindset of: this is a potential get together weeks or months later as no relationship or feeling lasts very long in this life. So that being the case, just reply with a chill msg so weeks later when she looks back over it and wants someone to h…
/r/seduction24/12/21 02:14 PM
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This is why your bro is where he is at and you are where you are at: you're limiting beliefs are dragging you down, and I just know with a mindset like the one you've shown in this thread -- it's killing your vibe and you're likely not giving off the best energy. You got to get to a better place mentally and emotionally my man
/r/seduction24/12/21 02:09 PM
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What is this either/or weirdness? Just fucking be. I'm deep in triple digit territory, often with 5+ new women a month, have had long term relationships -- and if you just live, if you are a sexual being, and women enjoy being with you -- and you leave all pressure of a relationship on them (where it should be, they should be the ones to bring it up) -- you can easily have an amazing time letting the connections you have grow as short or as far as they are going to grow. If you think there is su…
/r/seduction24/12/21 01:57 PM
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At some point this won't be something you think about, and it won't be a 'game' you have to play. You want to escalate immediately and right off the bat. What do I mean? It's the first date, you are meeting at a bar -- as soon as you see her, walk up to her, smiling, say ' hey you' lightly put your hands on her shoulders give her a kiss on the cheek and then glide you hands down her arms to her hands, grab them, look her up and down and tell her she looks fucking amazing. Then guide her by the s…
/r/seduction24/12/21 01:36 PM
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Haha Blah blah blah Yeah, you didn't strike me as much of a listener
/r/seduction24/12/21 01:08 AM
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What a weird mindset. Your perception is power struggle, which does seem to inform your post, how you'd handle the situation and follow up comments, but you're the only one that holds that perception. But you can treat this situation and any situation as if there is no power struggle, because if there is no power struggle to you, there is no rock it is looking for it to resist against it and give it power, and hence such struggles won't exist for you.
/r/seduction22/12/21 12:46 PM
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That was an incredibly interesting way to word a way, that you yourself stated, you’d handle another male talking to a gf, which was followed by being aware of a possible need for restaurant staff to assist if issues come up. While it was a brief comment it is not the type of comment I’d ever type into words because I’d never consider those courses of actions or entertain those thoughts…but since you took the time to create the words, thoughts, possible actions…it’s not a far stretch for anyone …
/r/seduction21/12/21 03:37 PM
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Sometimes you just have to put your dick out on the table so they know what you're all about
/r/seduction21/12/21 09:08 AM
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The correct answer here was: Jerk her off while the other man is flirting with her and let him watch
/r/seduction21/12/21 09:05 AM
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" invite him to allow her and me to get back to our date"?? If the situation is such she wants out of it: Just tell the other man you two are going back to enjoying your drink/conversation/food and to have a good night. Don't "invite" him to "allow" you to do it
/r/seduction21/12/21 09:04 AM
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I think you should see it less as people respecting you or losing respect for you, especially if you are coming from a place of strength, social intelligence and have 100% respect for yourself -- and treat it more like: people are welcome to stay in my life or leave it at any time based on the choices they make. When you value yourself and you're acting with the values of a valuable human being, you don't have to mindread if someone has or has lost "respect" for you
/r/seduction21/12/21 09:00 AM
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Treat it like: of fucking course MY gf is a desirable fucking woman. There's a reason I am with her. Every man feels it when she walks into the room. Your foundational mindset (imo) should be: She's welcome to come into my life and stay in it, she's welcome to leave my life any time she wants. She is her own beautiful being and part of what makes her HER is the choices she chooses to make. Even if that means she leaves to pursue other interests. Guys flirting with her, telling her she's attracti…
/r/seduction21/12/21 08:55 AM
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Reframe psychology: you both had a great time, now she’s back with the ex. Unfortunately the reality of nature is, if the woman is the one that doesn’t want it or isn’t showing feelings then outwardly you need to cancel those emotional pulls and be ice cold. Pleasant but not emotional, and not emotional in that you have a life to live and you both had a great time but it’s a new day. If she talks, you need to be spartan laconic, she wants deep pillow talk, well there’s ways for that to happen bu…
/r/seduction26/10/19 11:59 AM
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Man, that bitch aint even worth free dinner
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 06:27 AM
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Hemingway was talking Red Pill before Seinfeld was even born. Example: His complete short stories. For an in your face taste of a blue pill becoming red pill and the effects it has on his woman check out The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber
/r/TheRedPill23/01/14 01:25 AM
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Word. The whole point is not to do it in a huff and a puff. Its more of a mental "look I like you/love you/whatever but if this is the way youre gonna be, okay. Peace. Later"
/r/TheRedPill12/01/14 09:17 PM
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Solid advice that is tied into the one true Golden Rule above all when it comes to a woman: ALWAYS BE WILLING TO WALK AWAY. If you want to be powerful in relationships that rule above will give it to you. Be willing to walk away no matter how much you love a girl and she will love you far beyond any sort of 'regular' love you can experience. Be firm, be loving, be seductive, be her lover, but always carry yourself with the silent strength that YOU WANT her but YOU DON'T NEED her. And if she is e…
/r/TheRedPill11/01/14 07:52 PM
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Bro if you take a good looking guy like that, take all his confidence away, make him socially nervous, give him a proper low self esteem he'd be an attractive ugly dude. Most women would be repulsed by him at the least eventually start treating him like shit. He'd likely even be dating fat chicks out of personal safety. You CAN be a physically ugly but hot guy. An ugly attractive dude basically and mop the floor. PS. If you are genuinely "alpha" upstairs it will naturally start coming out in you…
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 02:45 AM
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A while back I didn't end up finishing this book but the first half, especially the stuff on who to psychologically get into dominance and how to really expand your psychology during sex was definitely worth reading.
/r/RedPillBooks10/01/14 02:34 AM
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Word. Have a friend that has been 'dating' this girl, who hasnt slept with him who he is practically already in love with, a girl who (because he makes it okay for her to do this) spends his time but wont fuck him and I tell him man you have got to put her to the test...your time, your love, your energy are too precious to waste on this broad if you are not fucking her. The longer you are okay with this situation the more she is going to love keeping the situation the exact same, giving you excu…
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 02:21 AM
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I think we need to start calling these thread types "Tales from the BluePill: Here is your DAILY CRINGE"
/r/TheRedPill10/01/14 02:10 AM
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If I'm really invested in her I'd punish her/reassert my boundaries. If I wasn't, I'd walk or slowly reduce my investment in her to the point where I'm just using her for sex, she's lost girlfriend status. My actions and level of effort are directly correlated with my investment in her. Word. Your love. Your time. Your attention (negative or positive) is what they crave. Always downgrade downgrade downgrade if she is doing things you dont like and has no respect. She has to learn through your be…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 07:44 PM
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If it's an angry beta and he gets hostile I'd shut him the fuck down with machiavellianism. Even this is too much energy. Angry betas are tiny Chihuahuas. The only thing they're worth is a maybe smirk and a walk away and an "ill fuck you later" look to the girl as you do. He's her problem for as long as she keeps him.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 07:40 PM
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You're the king. The highest she can ever hope to be is Queen. But you're willing to drop her ass if she isnt up for the task. IF youre not the master, than she will be and will take up the reigns. Women want a guy that is better than them, they want a guide, they want to be taught, they want to be controlled. If she ever gets to the point she thinks SHE is better than you, she will realize she is better than the relationship she has with you and so begins the countdown clock until she not just …
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 07:36 PM
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If you're not the master, someone else is sure as shit going to be it for you and that includes reality.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 07:19 PM
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One of the problems with opening your eyes to TRP is that you are jacked out of the matrix and without your blue pill idealism you realize just how self-centered and shitty the average woman person is. Not a problem, but a key. Sadly, the liklihood of shittyness goes up as the said woman goes up the HB scale. Considering that most new TRP guys chase the hot women they can finally get, they face more and more shitty women. Dont mistake this as a battle. You put up with nothing. Women are like thi…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 07:08 PM
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Here is a slight, small taste of Black Philip: Time Ho: (knowledge starts dropping hard at 1 min 30 secs) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9QOQNcpuiA We Do Not Negotiate With Terrorists: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y6bOXPm6JE We're Better Than You: (listen to the whole thing) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_dFPC5FKuE He'll Fuck You If You're Dirty (love this video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Vcc8-nyZ0&list=RDa_dFPC5FKuE Womens Hatred Is Just Like Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 07:04 PM
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YES. Black Philip was the original and I think Dante (who was a big part of the Black Philip show as O'neals right hand man) started up Beige Philip after O'Neal passed on. Black Philip is like some Old Testament level Red Pill. Listen to at least first two episodes and you'll have a new hero. He does not mess around and his shit works unbelievably well. NOTE: you can listen to Black Philip eps on Youtube but you can get a torrent of all the EPs here to carry around on an ipod: http://thepirateb…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 06:32 PM
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also do yourself a favor and torrent all of Patrice O'Neal's The Black Phillip show. And take notes. It will rock your world hard.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 02:11 PM
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Word. If any dude is ever thinking of thinking about making a post about his girl on the reddit beta box. dont. just walk or downgrade her status hardcore in your mind. Chick has a fantasy youre not into and wants to fulfill it? time to bounce. Your time, your love, your dick are precious commodities. Be fuckin or be walkin.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 02:05 PM
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Congratulate her on the new life goal she set for herself and he should walk or make her one of his threesome girls. Tier her down to a fuck buddy, but if theres some heavy emotions cut contact w maybe occasionally sexing if it requires no work (and she buys the drinks). Being serious.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 02:00 PM
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Introduce her to the fact that its time for an open relationship/threesomes (preferably by introducing her to new girl you just found or picked up in front of her) or walk away. At the very least downgrade her to lower tier of "girlfriend" and start auditioning girls for a contest of your own. No matter how much you love a girl your dick still works with other girls.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 01:56 PM
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I know. careful, youre going to make me blush I appreciate that. thanks / thank you well you're very complimentary tonight / You're very complimentary tonight thank you you're v kind i do my best i do alright here i was just thinking how hard a time Im having keeping my eyes off you what are you doing after this? (maybe even work in follow up along the lines of: "oh wait I know...yes you're hanging out with me...get your coat lets go) come here (kiss her) or better yet, who cares: say whatever c…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 01:45 PM
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you're bitching like that guy in that movie the matrix that wants to be put back in the matrix. You need to find beauty in what it means to be human and not the pretty lies. Wake up. Be powerful. I can love a woman better than ever and I can do it on my own terms, while helping her feel what its like to be in a relationship with someone like me in which she feels loved in a way thats better than the other crap out there. And if you dont find a girl you dig: drop, find and repeat until you do. Wo…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 01:37 PM
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Roman Soldier Syndrome
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 01:31 PM
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Guys: Next time a woman dissect a guys personalty, finances, future, provider ability, how nice he is extra, how he's infected with sexy son syndrome...please give their shallow asses a piece of your mind (and Im serious). Boggles my mind how women see to think what men find appealing is any more shallow than the opportunistic drivel that turns them on.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 01:28 PM
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Shouldn't have married a rapist then.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 01:26 PM
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The minute you can say fuck you to your oneitis or better yet say nothing at all, you get your power back one day at a time and it WILL MAKE YOU POWERFUL with the next girl. And on and on and on. Until you get to be loving and super cut throat at the same time. To waste any time on a girl you are not fucking, who is not giving you the time of day is an utter fucking waste of potential fucking and time some other girl could be giving you.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 01:23 PM
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Its like watching Robert Greene come to life in the form of Kevin Spacey. Awesome show. Like the modern day real life political version of Game of Thrones.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 01:21 PM
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Word. If they want equality: make them equal.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 01:20 PM
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some books already mentioned here but I would highly HIGHLY recommend reading through Women's infidelity 1 & 2, especially the second one. Available here: http://womensinfidelity.com/womens-infidelity-i-ii/ Or you can get them for free on torrent. Also: The Great Female Con (also can get on torrent) Married Man Sex Life Sex God Method (more for first half of the book about attitude and dominance and total engagement) Attitudes I I recommend highly: If she is off to you, YOU ARE OFF TO HER. No if…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 01:10 PM
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peach on brother man
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 04:23 AM
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"You can always apologize for being over the top. You can never go back and say 'no I really am a man'." solid video I came across the other day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=H6zLGUjf9ao
/r/TheRedPill13/06/13 11:04 PM
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seriously, every male should read these two books (out of print but good quality pdfs here...the second Woman's Infidelity book is especially clutch): https://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/6571093/women_s_infidelity_complete also this: https://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/7230617/THE_GREAT_FEMALE_CON_ found them through this blog: http://therawness.com/recommended-reading-ongoing/ well worth picking up. They will shift your view point big time.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/13 10:55 PM
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Like with anything Red Pill, you can break a lot of it down to Biology / Evolutionary Psychology. Example: You can look at your woman and if you see she is sad (or not happy) you can literally break your thinking down to this: Does she need a shot of Dopamine (adventure) or Oxytocin (Romance/Connection/Cuddling) and thinking in this sort of simplicity you will almost always be right. So this is how I look at exes (and I may change this thinking later): Almost always THEY COME BACK LOOKING FOR ON…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/13 08:41 AM
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Arguing (if you are legit arguing). Especially over bullshit should be cut out of the relationship completely. You're still letting her bring drama to the relationships. Also you let her control that drama and bs in the relationship when you let her suck you into the arguing. You should put up with that shit for 30 seconds drama and then leave if she can't meet you on a civilized rational level. If she wants drama let her find it somewhere else, wait a week, contact her or finally respond to her…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/13 08:16 AM
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Another blue pill movie that I was hoping had promise (due to my love of Mad Max): Bellflower. The saving grace of the movie was the last bit of dialogue from the friend to the main character: "Dude you are fucking Lord Humongous. The master of fire, the king of the wasteland. Lord Humongous doesn't get cheated on by some stupid bitch. Lord Humongous doesn't say was it good for you, he doesn't say who called or where were you last night. He doesn't leave the fucking gang when he falls in love. N…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/13 11:13 AM
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I dont know how anyone else does it, but really even if I dig someone being in my life, unless we are drinking and fucking or she is introducing me to all her hot gfs or helping me by being an awesome wing woman when we are out...I just don't see the point of investing any god damn time into them. The exes I do talk to (the ones where not hooking up happens) is maybe once every 2-4 months randomly and not in a way that is more than a few texts where I reply to some conversation they may have sta…
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 08:01 AM
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^ this. as someone who recently went through a similar siutaiton 6 months ago, even though I loved the hell out of the girl, soon as the date other people or explore bs came up, I cut everything off. I just knew she had someone specific in mind, she is dating him, etc etc, (PS. A woman will never tell you she has someone specific in mind...and almost always she will tell you how confused she is while she if fucking this other dude in hopes you stay around) i still get texts from her (the usual I…
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 07:54 AM
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BOOM. This. What he said. I'll bet my next six pack on this any day of the week.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 07:46 AM
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Also if a girl verbally mentions to you the she wants to "explore", or date others or have an open relationship...SHE ALREADY HAS SOMEONE SPECIFIC IN MIND. IF she isn't already messing around with him, she has thought about it through and through in her mind and wants to see whats up with this dude. She will never mention anything to you unless she already has another option in mind.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 07:45 AM
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We pretty much live in times of "de facto polygamy" (physically and, given how easy it is to get and give attention from multiple people, mentally). On one level its depressing (in regards to notions I or we may want to have) but its hard to complain about the sheer amount of sex and different partners its provided me (and through that finding and knowing what I really like and what I will and will not put up with behavior wise).
/r/TheRedPill15/05/13 08:08 PM
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The Beige Phillip Show A continuation of the The Black Phillip Show. The host of this show had slept with 1,400 women by the time he was 32. I am only on the 2nd episode but there is so much Red Pill Philosophy being dropped -- you NEED to be listening. Just released their 51st episode. Aw man, I hope its on par. Just saw that it is hosted by the CoHost of the black phillip show, Dante Nero. Ill give it a go. If anyone is reading this BLACK PHILLIP SHOW IS A MUST. You can find all the episodes o…
/r/TheRedPill15/05/13 07:46 AM
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You might be overcompensating. Over cocky and loud can become clownish and grating. Off the top of my head, compare yourself to say Don Draper (or someone else you look up to or want to model) and ask yourself how you are coming off in regards to whoever youd like to model.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/13 10:11 AM
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Shes not forcing anything but she will keep doing it until he takes control of it.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/13 09:28 PM
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either way its still giving her attention (any attention good or bad is still her getting her cookie) for shitty behavior. why would anyone want to fuck a girl like this.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/13 09:22 PM
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No, my aim is to put her in her place to maintain my status. Jesus. You're letting your self get sucked into her world already. Who the fuck cares about what place she is in, you're feeding this issues and making it bigger than it needs to be. AT the end of the day who the fuck cares, she is a woman. You inherently know your own status, if you're so concerned about it, its not v high, even to yourself. All you do if she says any bullshit to you or is going on about how vain you are just say some…
/r/TheRedPill11/05/13 09:16 PM
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looks like youre right. I didnt read the whole thing. I say this for the benefit of others who happen to read this: when a woman says she wants to date others, or have an open relationship, that means there is FOR SURE someone else in the picture. They will never risk you leaving until they are sure they have someone (although almost always they will give you bullshit about being confused, not knowing what they want, don't feel like they used to, etc...it will almost always not come out definiti…
/r/TheRedPill11/05/13 08:03 PM
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I explained to her how nauseas it made me feel to imagine her with another guy. Good christ, it makes me nauseous just reading that comment. This guy is in for a massive emotional pain train and he's going to make himself her bitch in the process. Its already started. Sad thing is, he probably won't listen to any advice, will put her on a pedestal and will only months later if he is lucky realize what a bitch (hell he probably doesn't even know she has someone in her life already she wants to fu…
/r/TheRedPill11/05/13 12:42 PM
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she has someone SPECIFIC IN MIND ALREADY THAT SHE IS ALREADY HANGING OUT WITH. A girl will never tell you she wants to see other people until she already has certain specific other people in mind already.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/13 12:38 PM
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I don't see a border. I take piecemeal from everything that works (leaving behind what doesn't) and blur it all into something that is much more effective than any one thing. As for la Rochefoucauld Ill check it out. Even on the sites I posted he was recommended but Ive never got around to reading him.
/r/TheRedPill08/05/13 11:05 AM
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I highly recommend taking a look at Ryan Holidays site / reading list and signing up for his monthly reading list email. (I also recommend going through his blog, he lists more history books that are well worth reading) Ryan Holiday Books to Base Your Life On: http://www.ryanholiday.net/reading-list/ Monthly Reading List Email Archive: http://www.ryanholiday.net/reading-list-email-archive/ Through there you'll find a lot of good bios, history books, books that will give you insane insights to ho…
/r/TheRedPill07/05/13 08:46 AM
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Heres some advise, it'll be like a casserole you don't want to eat, but never care about the why, what, wheres, hows of something. It'll lead you down a bullshit road that women own. It'll trap your ego and will waste your time. If a girl is leaving, or has left, does not want to come back or be with you, open the door and let her leave. In fact as we speak, a girl who I loved v much just called me as I was typing this, now this is a girl that man, felt like it for me, we had broke up cause she …
/r/TheRedPill02/05/13 01:21 AM
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The more you know about people the less chance they will have to ever surprise you.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/13 01:11 AM
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Read history, read evolutionary psychology, read things on marketing and how PR works. Reading history, knowing history benefits you in being a man. Think about it. You learn from the examples of great men, kings, history changers while living your life in a way that YOU AVOID THE MISTAKES OF EMPERORS. It makes you powerful day to day. You avoid short sightedness and think in the long term
/r/becomeaman02/05/13 01:03 AM
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This is like asking a woman "why?" after any point or conviction she states. They will 98% of the time have no logic to back it up, just some unthoughtout feeling. They start to go in a circle they are incapable of getting out of. They make themselves willfully dense and are unable to see or understand any conclusions (even basic ones) outside of their own, no matter how logically you present it. PS. for anybody reading this, if you are ever out w a girl and you really want to have fun, when she…
/r/TheRedPill23/04/13 09:11 PM
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Vulnerability + Strong boundaries = a winning formula. Having the true balls to be vulnerable and say what you mean, what you want, sometimes what you feel, what you desire while unafraid of any outcome at first will be difficult for a lot of people. But the more you do it, the more you will truly have balls the size of Jupiter compared to most of the population. Women will love you for not shying away while respecting you when you put up w no bullshit and can walk away if they are not intereste…
/r/seduction23/04/13 09:00 PM
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The Last Pick Up Book you'll ever have to read... Hyperbole. But it is an amazing book that really ties the whole experience together. Its one of the sources that bring a lot of ideas together beautifully and evolves them into something incredibly genuine. I think the big thing that will help people the most from this is: Having incredibly strong boundaries, while being Vulnerable and genuine. PS. in regards to having strong boundaries. Two amazing books are Your Erroneous Zones by Wayne Dyer, a…
/r/seduction23/04/13 08:54 PM
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Stop making excuses for women. She made her decision. Done in a flirtatious manner or not he literally verbally turned her down over and over and she kept coming at him.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/13 06:36 AM
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When you first discover this stuff, it can give you a dark view of human nature. But for me, you realize that you can now apply whatever framework you want to life and interpret what you know however you want vs being unconsciously forced into believing the framework society / feminism throws upon you (romanticism, chivalry, etc). Knowing what you are starting to find out can be dark, but there is much beauty to be found in it. There is much you can do to give friends and women the relationships…
/r/TheRedPill15/04/13 11:57 PM
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I keep seeing here on the red pill this common trope. "You don't have to be an asshole, just confident..." You're right you don't have to be an asshole, nor should you. People will just think you're an asshole sometimes because you are not following THEIR program, you are following YOUR program. You have strong boundaries, you don't put up w drama, you WANT the girl in front of you BUT YOU DONT NEED HER. You want to fuck her but you will never let her fuck you over. You understand human nature, …
/r/TheRedPill13/04/13 05:17 PM
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Who cares. Everywhere is an opportunity.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/13 04:16 AM
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all you should have sent her once she said " I was taking it more seriously than her and taking things too fast" (which you should not have done regardless, you can like a girl, but pushing the relationship type stuff fast will always backfire unless you're with a v needy even insecure woman) Anyway all you should have said, or texted was "okay" and then ignored her for two weeks. then pretend like nothing happened. but in this time go out with other girls. you have got to have the attitude of l…
/r/seduction11/04/13 01:25 AM
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There's an "innate compass" in humans to help w survival, move through the society you find yourself in and to further self interests. As for morals all you have to do is look at all of human history pre-civilization and after, and in all the different societies that existed to see just how pliable and changeable "morals" are. There is no innate good or bad. Just an innate changeable compass. A good book on the matter is The Moral Animal: Why We Are, the Way We Are by Robert Wright.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/13 07:28 PM
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morally correct way There is no truely morally correct way for anything. Think of "morals" like a radio between human nature and environment, you can tune the knobs and station to whatever you want in whatever situation you want...we usually just have it synced up in some way to whatever culture we are living in. Also all morals are based on self-interest / personal survival in every-way.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/13 07:07 PM
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seriously I hope people already know this.
/r/seduction02/04/13 07:04 PM
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That thread could turn any man into a misogynist. No need to be a misogynist. You just need to know what the creature you spend your time w is capable of. Would you ever go into battle blind without doing reconnaissance on your opponent? Jumping into relationships w women knowing nothing about them is punching your ticket for a one way trip to fucked over ville. Unfortunantly due to the way most of us were raised we need those experiences of being fucked over to truely understand the forces of h…
/r/TheRedPill02/04/13 06:59 PM
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It's only believable because most beta men don't really have that many partners. this is the perfect way to put it, imo. If you are even a semi-aware dude and/or have a pretty good partner count, you inherently have seen behind the curtains of female behavior. the sort of woman above can freely have her lies taken for truth only by those who lack in experience.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/13 06:55 PM
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Feel bad for the loser that ends up wifeing her whatever unaware poor soul ends up w her will actually feel pretty lucky. until they have some crazy argument or as she is leaving him she throws who she really is in his face.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/13 06:51 PM
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theres a difference between a girl who has been in relationships, dated some guys and things havent worked out and a girl who who fucks around w anything semi attractive w a heartbeat. You are right in that there needs to be truth, but REAL true truth especially in the beginning of getting to know anyone should honestly be along the lines of "it is not my intention to have a one night stand or only know you for a short period of time, I know I like you now and we could know each other for 4 days…
/r/TheRedPill02/04/13 06:40 PM
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hey random person Ill never meet, who the fuck needs to brag on the internet. my life and experiences are normal for me so what makes it special enough to get extra life credit for it from strangers? is my experience different then yours? who knows. who cares. your perspective is the reason you think such things that have nothing to do w me. Taken in context of the OP my post actually illustrates a point. if it helps you think different pretend I started by saying a "friend of a friend told me..…
/r/TheRedPill02/04/13 08:42 AM
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This chick held off giving OP head for two months. You are on a one way trainwreck to fucked-over ville if you ever let yourself fall into this situation. Note: im blessed in that Im usually the guy that has girls like this in bed within hours to at most two weeks of meeting them and hearing these stories while we are laying in bed, spent and fucked out, hearing of how guys are in love w them after knowing them only for a short time or how they usually make guys wait 3-4 months for sex (one girl…
/r/TheRedPill02/04/13 04:37 AM
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He now feels like the idiot that married the school slut after everyone had their way with her. poor guy. Everyone has their flaws, this is the kinda shit situation you get yourself into when you idealize anyone.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/13 04:36 AM
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Someone do this guy a favor, sign up on that site and give him the red pill.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/13 04:33 AM
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I tell guys this all the time: There is no togetherness. There is only how I feel about you right now and how you feel about me right now. Once you idealize anything past that you are only fucking yourself and putting blinders on.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/13 06:38 PM
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"alpha all the time" you're reading the book wrong or w too much of a mindset that you have to be one thing all the time. Outwardly you can play to the situation for both short term and long term purposes. Internally you should never compromise your beliefs and standards.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/13 06:25 PM
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vagina drugs
/r/TheRedPill29/03/13 02:47 AM
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Not only working knowledge in Evolutionary Psychology, but history (ex. The history of Rome, the civil war, etc...start w general overviews and then read texts that get more specific) and biographies as well. These will not only elevate how you view and live your own life but give you profound insights into human nature and society. Ryan Holiday has a site that is a good start for all of these things...he is a marketer that started young, and through his own self education has become incredibly …
/r/TheRedPill28/03/13 10:22 PM
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The best fuck this mood you can have is never giving any attention to drama.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/13 06:50 PM
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I'd try and regulate this situation before it got to the point in the OP. You need to give her the option to THINK of what is going to happen if she pulls drama ever. You need to give her those options to edit herself. My style is pretty much like the following links: Women Will Do Whatever You Tolerate How To Soft Next: Step-by-step instructions and answers to questions As for your OP I like everything except the calling of the other girl. Sure some people see it as Alpha, to me its reactionary…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/13 06:43 PM
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You have a lot of work ahead of you but good job. It seems like you also still see things as a check list of things you must do. Asshole frame is also the wrong way to think of it. All it comes down to is having desires and if she is not game to come along w you, fine thats her choice, it doesnt affect you...it also comes from a place of having strong boundaries. This stuff should all be intuitive, not anything you really think about on a conscious level. Also doing things purposefully (going ou…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/13 06:24 PM
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Shit captshady, that hamsters off on its own Homeward Bound adventure story by now.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/13 08:15 PM
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if you ever want to drive a chick crazy after anything she says just ask: "Why?" They are incapable of have a genuine logical reason for just about anything. Its all emotionally based for them. They can't logically ever take responsibility for anything that will remotely make them seem like a bad person. They will rationalize everything. Its a disease.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/13 08:13 PM
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Because they were oppressed by the patriarchy. So they think that female powerlessness translates to mens power? People are dumb. Men are just as powerless as women but in different ways. We all have roles forced on us.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/13 08:09 PM
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What the fuck is this magical "happy" that we Westerners seek? For 99% of Human history our ancestors would have LOVED to be content Well come to female entitlement and the Disney fantasy. You have the last 60 years of divorce laws and feminism to thank for this.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/13 08:07 PM
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To be fair I think everyone should follow whatever makes them happy and unless that involves gunning down people to do it all is fair. Better they both find relationships that make them happy then stay together in a bad relationship for the kids who would only suffer because of it. This is a situation where the man should have left her already or put her ass to a choice.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/13 08:05 PM
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Kevin Space is an amazing red pill alpha through and through in this. Plus it's just a damn good series.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/13 12:09 PM
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Rome / Deadwood = solid hours of man time right there
/r/TheRedPill24/03/13 12:07 PM
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Ha you're not seeing it properly. When women watch the movie, they don't relate to the female character they relate to the guys character. As I said above: It's Hollywood's version of a red pill relationship. The roles are just reversed. Joseph Gordon-Levitt is the woman and Zooey Deschanel is the alpha-like man. And w that in mind THE RELATIONSHIP PLAYS OUT EXACTLY HOW IT SHOULD. and [heartiste: one of the commenters above mentioned an intriguing possibility -- female viewers identify with the …
/r/TheRedPill24/03/13 12:06 PM
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crosspost of something I typed up in another thread: Look being in love w one "special" girl is not a problem. Just remember a couple things, here are a few thoughts off the top of my head: Have a Generalized View of human nature AND a Specialized View of human nature. Meaning all women (and men) run to the beat of the same exact programming biologically and psychologically (generalized view) and that this is largely unconscious (they are just doing what they are doing without realizing it)...AN…
/r/TheRedPill23/03/13 06:24 PM
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Don't get married. But if you do, your proposal should be this: sitting at a table or on a couch w your girlfriend...take out the ring and just put it on her finger and say "there, that looks better" and go back to doing what you were doing.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/13 06:19 PM
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It's Hollywood's version of a red pill relationship. The roles are just reversed. Joseph Gordon-Levitt is the woman and Zooey Deschanel is the alpha-like man. And w that in mind THE RELATIONSHIP PLAYS OUT EXACTLY HOW IT SHOULD.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/13 06:07 PM
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Look being in love w one "special" girl is not a problem. Just remember a couple things, here are a few thoughts off the top of my head: Have a Generalized View of human nature AND a Specialized View of human nature. Meaning all women (and men) run to the beat of the same exact programming biologically and psychologically (generalized view) and that this is largely unconscious (they are just doing what they are doing without realizing it)...AND that each woman varies by degrees only (specialized…
/r/TheRedPill23/03/13 05:59 PM
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Not enough to get married. Kids don't require marriage to survive or to enjoy an awesome relationship between the parents. I wager him being antimarriage and getting married for purposes of the kid and not your own ultimate happiness would be more detrimental to the relationship by far than staying unmarried.
/r/TheRedPill22/03/13 01:53 AM
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My net every few weeks is around $3k where hers is less than half that. I'm thinking of telling her that her debt isn't my responsibility and just take care of current shit. You need to do this. Btw, is she pushing you to take care of her debt? Or guilt tripping you? If she is just fucking say no, fuck off its your debt and has nothing to do with me. If she bitches she can leave. If she is worth anything she will understand and leave it at that. Any manipulative head games then she has got to go…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/13 07:24 PM
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Dude, you can stay antimarriage. Getting married for anyone but putting yourself in a better situation for YOUSELF is folly. In fact I wager if you are anti marriage and getting married because of the baby situation you'd probably have a much better relationship not getting married. Ask yourself this, if the baby wasn't in the picture, would you get married? Boom, you have the answer for what you should be doing.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/13 07:21 PM
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why would you help pay something that has nothing to do with you? think about it this way, that debt was accumulated before you were in her life and slowly accrued during a time while she was probably banging other dudes before you came along...take some perspective on this. Pay nothing, its her issue to take care of.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/13 07:18 PM
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Exactly. He doesnt rid himself of Tyler. They become each other. Tyler wakes up Jack.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/13 06:57 PM
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Wrong. Tyler is not a form of insanity he needs to rid himself of...Tyler is the sleeping red pill giant that lives in every man, that woke up and took a life of its own. The point at the end is the he integrates Tyler into who he is. They become one. The red pill warrior w no leash meshes into the rational sleeping blue pill part of the main character, so that in the end they are the same person. A person who is fully awake.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/13 06:55 PM
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He stumbles at the end when he tries to reinsert himself back into the Matrix though Typical hollywood style bs ending. They did the same thing in Crazy Stupid Love and ruined what was 2/3rds of a good movie.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/13 06:48 PM
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Here is an excellent breakdown of the movie. The movie is totally blue pill cautionary tale. 500 Days of Beta: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/500-days-of-beta/ "It’s possible the director intended his movie to be a subversive precautionary tale for men — act like this guy and you’ll be a loser in love — but I think it likelier that the movie’s point was to serve as a nostalgic wallowing for hopeless romantics (you know, the kind of guy who describes himself as a feminist and is always…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/13 06:38 PM
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This movie hurts so hard to watch. Its the ultimate decline into blue pill. Worth watching if you want to see what fate could be like and is like for a good number of guys. Id also add in watching Girls. Watch the 1st season for the Adam character...love his character. Alpha in the way he handles the main girl character (although him dating a girl that looks like her you're just going to have to ignore)...and then watch the trainwreck that is season 2 for how they ruin his character and have him…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/13 02:23 AM
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what a goofy bitch
/r/TheRedPill14/03/13 07:18 PM
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Hook up culture exists at every point in the life of anybody living today. Before, during, after college. Before, DURING, after marriage. Marriage itself has been turned into a hook up culture. Not many seem to understand that now that a woman can provide for herself OR get every provision she needs through a half decent divorce lawyer (ending up better off after a failed marriage then when she started that marriage) that women are no longer happy just providing for and appreciating their husban…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/13 06:53 PM
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Add in the power of an Alpha being able to string a woman along
/r/TheRedPill14/03/13 02:14 AM
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This should be posted in the highest per capital feminist (even women) subreddit. Grab popcorn and watch the comments roll in.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/13 02:12 AM
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I remember reading somewhere, that women mature faster but to a point (stops around age 18) for both child bearing and child rearing purposes and also by doing so are better able to work better with their young psychologically...while men mature slower but farther (and the only limit they have on maturity is themselves and knowledge)...and after reading both Women's Infidelity and The Great Female Con, one that I find holds much truth.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/13 02:09 AM
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Curious about any books (non-fiction or fiction) that you recommend guys check out or that you found insightful.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/13 02:43 AM
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No need for r-closing, it either just happens naturally, no words...or the woman brings it up if you guys have been acting like you're in a relationship for long enough time...(ie. her asking if you guys are official, or if you're seeing others, or what she should expect, or what are we, or where do you see this going, etc etc)...the point is, usually you both know already, or you know where she is at in wanting one, or you've been together long enough and seeing each other frequently enough tha…
/r/seduction12/03/13 07:45 PM
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A woman's love is like a hand powered grinding wheel. If you pump furiously and wind it up, she will do the job, make noise, even throw off sparks. She will respond, BUT ONLY RESPOND. The minute you release the handle...she begins winding down. She can only respond in a temporary manner. That is why they rarely call or initiate anything. They are constructed to only respond. AND THEY RESPOND TO EVERYTHING YOU DO AND EVERYTHING YOU DON'T DO. Hence... you can never fall asleep at the wheel.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/13 02:28 AM
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You shouldn't expect sex just because you're friends with a girl, and you shouldn't expect commitment just because you're fucking a dude. Truth.
/r/seduction11/03/13 10:16 PM
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I'll comment on it shortly, still running it through my mind, but it is one of the best books at breaking down how females operate. Also if anybody questions the validity of the book or OP, Ricky Raw of therawness (one of the best red pill blogs out there) just posted a huge recommendation for it here: http://www.facebook.com/therawness?fref=ts and also here in his Recommended Reading list: http://therawness.com/recommended-reading-ongoing/ He also recommends Women's Infidelity I & II (out of pr…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/13 07:17 PM
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the book is super solid so far, read the exerpts on the author site. If you want to read it and pay later there is a torrent of it on piratebay. Also while you are at it, download Women's Infidelity I & II (also found through torrent), amazing books as well.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/13 07:13 PM
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add in these books (can be ordered in pdf form from both author's site): Women's Infidelity I & II The Great Female Con (this one especially...in fact I DEMAND everyone who reads this comment to get it) ....and your mind will be blown open even further
/r/TheRedPill08/03/13 05:38 AM
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remember this, just about everything that motivates a woman is outside herself. She is a responder. They respond to everything you do, how you act, how adventurous you are, how you handle your emotions. Hell they respond if the day is sunny or raining.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/13 05:35 AM
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Needles to say she was pissed and it killed the mood. Why put up with this kind of behavior. More than a minute of drama, open the door and tell her to go, or if you are at her place, just get up and leave, don't speak to her for 5-14 days. Women will do whatever you tolerate. Also given her reaction it seems you are either you are covering up or you are doing something with your behavior to make her think you two are exclusive sexually. If you don't want to be honest in words (I usually am, dep…
/r/seduction05/03/13 08:09 PM
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this is definitely a better reframe. What most women don't understand is even beginning to think of the things they like in a man is that they are already talking about a wish list of things they want w a guy that they already assume they have maximum attraction with...they are not talking about the things that attract them to guys.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/13 03:29 AM
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seriously, this guy is pissing in the pool of humanity until he gets his shit in gear and starts teaching his women how to be a fuckin woman by being the man he needs to be.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/13 03:15 AM
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only if he stays emotional and doesn't get righteous with his logic.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/13 03:12 AM
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truth point
/r/TheRedPill05/03/13 03:11 AM
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Its up to him to teach the women in his life. But you can always play the part of Prometheus and light his life with the fire of the gods.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/13 03:11 AM
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You can hate the biology, you can hate the psychology, you can hate the behavior, you can hate every bit of evolution that formed each of us into who we are now, you can hate the unconscious unlearned drives that motivate them...or you can find beauty in it. The red pill can initially put you in a dark place but it doesn't mean you have to stay there. Think of it like Dante, you start in a dark woods, you go through hell, but eventually you should move upwards towards purgatory and eventually he…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/13 03:05 AM
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It doesnt matter if she is actually cheating. Its to the point you think she is or she is looking for side dick. The only follow up you need to is just leave and be gone.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/13 08:55 PM
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Leave her. Drop her, don't talk to her for 1-2 weeks, ignore all texts and calls, go after other women. Word of advice: if you even begin to think she is cheating or looking towards other people, just leave. Be done and gone. (unless you guys have an open relationship)
/r/TheRedPill02/03/13 08:54 PM
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The most important thing you can take away from the mystery method is his model of how seduction moves from open to close. It's a solid framework to keep in mind. All the scripted stuff...throw it out...BUT you can memorize some of the games (rings routine, fucker murder kill) etc cause they are fun to have on hand...but if you have the framework, you don't need the routines (unless you find a few that fit your personality).
/r/seduction28/02/13 11:20 PM
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True. Last thing I'd want is a girl who's happy w me surrounded by a bunch of single girlfriends trying to pull her into their way of life (be like a married girl walking into a den of divorced lionesses). I love women, in the fact they will conform, almost chameleon like to whatever external circumstances they find themselves in (she may literally be two different women depending on who she is in a relationship w). My theory though is they conform to the thing that has the most strength in thei…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/13 11:23 PM
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My man. I started putting it to myself like this: stop thinking in specifics of what a certain person will or will not do and think in terms of human nature. Take the personal out of it. The minute Ive gone personal and thought, I know her, she is not like other girls or she wouldn't do this and Ive done things to try and appease that situation instead of working in regards to human nature as a whole, I ended up fucked in the end. Never again. (Side note: you can temper slightly toward their per…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/13 10:32 PM
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In a lot of ways what women do is not their fault on a conscious level, they are not educated in their own ways, they just run on whatever programming they have...the fault usually lies with the guy in not recognizing how women are and how hypergamy works.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/13 05:09 AM
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is there a link, did a quick google search and could find anything about A Generation of Men
/r/TheRedPill27/02/13 05:07 AM
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I recently started watching this w a girl I recently started seeing and at first she was like that (Adam) guy is a total asshole and I started giving her shit that she was so into him (he does a lot of things I do), and she would talk about how awkward uncomfortable bad the Charlie character is and then we started the second season and she looks over at me and was like "wtf is with the Adam guy, they ruined his character, he was the best guy character ever last season, he totally turned into Cha…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/13 04:45 AM
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Truth, baby. We never stop looking and no matter how in love you are emotionally, physically it is never enough (and if you think it is enough, give it six months)
/r/TheRedPill26/02/13 11:33 PM
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1st Season is pretty epic...I say this mostly for the Adam character, who is the guy the main girl is seeing. He's pretty epic to watch how he handles her. 2nd season = watch this (again in regards to the Adam character) to cringe and see how a strong male character goes total blue pill/beta. Im only two episodes in but they ruined the reason I watch the show but it is worth watching just to see how much going overly blue pill on a girl will instantly kill the relationship vibe.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/13 10:32 PM
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Im curious on books (fiction and non-fiction) that you found insightful or influenced your perceptions.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/13 02:08 AM
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Just caught this reply, Ill def add that book to my list of things to read
/r/TheRedPill23/02/13 01:58 AM
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Focus on your breathing. Take deep slooooooow breathes. It will physically calm you down. Focus on being as relaxed as possible w a smirk on your face. Remember, anything, anything at all is only a problem IF you think its a problem.
/r/seduction18/02/13 02:39 AM
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Stairs
/r/MensRights17/02/13 11:57 PM
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Minus this: Me: My evenings are usually pretty open. Solid stuff.
/r/seduction16/02/13 05:23 PM
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It's only an issue to you. The correct question is: Can I (you) tolerate that I don't have many friends? It is a thought in your head, a dominate belief that is limiting you and one that you are already giving to much energy. Gut it from your system. Cut any energy you give it. To answer your posted question, if you come from a place of strength and the girl senses you are strong enough, have a strong enough frame, she will wrap herself around you and conform and tolerate whatever you wish.
/r/seduction16/02/13 10:16 AM
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Train her w your behavior. Respond as much or as little as you choose to. (if you don't want to chat w her that much anyway, you should be out having a life and doing man shit, skinning crocodiles, building tombs for your enemies...you don't got all day to be talking to a woman doing woman talk w her. If she wants to talk she can come over to your place fuck you and talk after) This is no different then training a woman to get used to seeing you 1 day a week (keeping it casual) vs 2-4 days a wee…
/r/seduction13/02/13 07:51 PM
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Guys put themselves in the friend zone. The ones that do have the choice to stay there or not.
/r/seduction12/02/13 08:04 PM
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That said, if the hook-ups stopped, the attention i'd give her would drop dramatically. Right here is the key.
/r/seduction12/02/13 08:00 PM
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If she is OFF to you, YOU ARE OFF TO HER. If she is ON to you, THEN YOU ARE ON W HER. Also as was said somewhere in another topic: "There's only one question you need to ask yourself: Is my current behavior getting my dick wet? If the answer is yes, continue. If the answer is no, adapt and overcome."
/r/seduction12/02/13 07:52 PM
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Never take what a girl says seriously ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE NOT IN THE SAME ROOM W YOU. I've had girls say they won't sleep w me, or won't ever sleep w me again...and in my head all I hear is "the last girl that said that to me ended up sleeping w me"...and everyone ended up sleeping w me again. Ignore the friendly bit. It just means her buying temperature isn't up yet. Not enough value there for her yet to overcome her logical objections but she is receptive to it getting to that point. Just…
/r/seduction12/02/13 07:22 PM
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I dont know how much this will help but Ill just type some thoughts. Its very important you don't judge her in any negative way. Think of her shyness and everything she does as totally fucking cute, that it is a turn on to you. You can't help yourself, you just like the hell out of it. (the girl I just started seeing was like this but w OCD as well, and its like I conveyed to her, I am so fucking relaxed and open about everything that all her little quirks and hesitations are really fucking cute…
/r/seduction12/02/13 06:59 PM
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Kino right off the bat. (hand on lower back / forearm, etc) be a guy who naturally touches women all the time whether its moving past them or going right up and talking to them. As you're talking, convey interest and even a little vulnerability (by telling her 'you and I should get together' or some such thing)...have the attitude that you are awesome, you dig her and you have every intention of taking this further (you can be covert about this through your actions or overt and tell her). Come f…
/r/seduction12/02/13 06:36 PM
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Truth. Listen to any sales audio, read any sales book w seduction in mind and they go hand in hand and actually enhance your knowledge of the other (ex. in my post above talking about Brian Tracy's programs)
/r/seduction12/02/13 06:32 PM
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Seriously, listen and read all Brian Tracy's stuff, thinking of seduction while you are listening. It will blow your mind how relevant it is to getting a woman into your bed and into your life. Start w Psychology of Selling (audio...can be found w savvy internet search skills)...and read his book Maximum Achievement, its like a new and improved how to win friends and influence people (there is also an abridged audio version available through torrents). This stuff really goes into depth about the…
/r/seduction12/02/13 06:27 PM
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Good christ Blue Valentine is one of the most painful movies I've watched in regards to relationships.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/13 03:16 AM
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This show is so red pill is retarded. I highly reccommend you download the torrent from piratebay that has all the audio shows. AND TAKE NOTES
/r/TheRedPill12/02/13 03:07 AM
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Unless you have a major green light right off the bat, always do it by leading them in small steps (big steps like a out of nowhere lunge kiss will almost always get shut down). Kino (hand on her lower back / forearm / etc)...pay attention to how she is around you, her energy her demeanor, how she talks, her eye contact...eventually try either hand caressing or holding if she's receptive you might as well kiss her soon after...look at her, say "come here" pull her close to you and kiss her. Reme…
/r/seduction07/02/13 01:11 AM
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I havent read this pdf yet, but I think scanning subtly (ie. I think of it as more of having an ALWAYS BE ON attitude, always be ready to talk to a girl that comes in your vicinity.) is the way to go vs. constantly looking around in a very obvious manner, ogling at all the girls while having conversation w say a friend of yours. Think more like the way a predator (for humans, think more of a predator w a smirk) calmly scans the environment vs prey looking around on constant alert and very reacti…
/r/seduction05/02/13 08:17 PM
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This is easy. If she has already verbalized it just be like "okay" or "don't worry, you're safe, its my day off today"...or just be "HA! you have a dirty mind, you're so cute, now come out of the gutter and lets go hang out" often Ill just say "my dear, I couldn't even get it up today if you tried"...or ahead of time if we are walking towards my place or hers I'll say "hey I feel I should tell you...Im not going to sleep with you"
/r/seduction02/02/13 10:33 PM
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one of the ways I lead the questions sexually is: Have you ever fantasized about being with another woman? When is the last time you felt sexy? whats the craziest thing you've always wanted to do with someone but never have are you the type of girl that buys lingerie what was your first kiss / orgasm like...was it sensually clumsy or was it super sexy etc
/r/seduction02/02/13 10:25 PM
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never a fan of asking to kiss, or doing this kiss close. It's dumb, you know in your gut when you should be kissing a woman. Example. Mid date Im out with a girl, I reach my hand back, she takes my hand. I see out of the corner of my eye she does that cute little smile women do. We walk a block more. I tell her "you should remember this spot"...she asks why...I turn towards her and say "come here" bring her face up to my lips with my hands. Why? Because I knew I should be kiss her or could kiss …
/r/seduction02/02/13 09:36 PM
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wtf. be vulnurable. say "I think you are cute" (probably better to say she looks great in that dress, you're curious what the story behind it is) or say "I was just looking for an excuse to flirt with you." do this over and over again and you won't have this issue. Hell if that is too much for you, do this for a week to little old ladies and fat women and women you are not attracted to. Right now, you're giving into your ego. You're living in fear.
/r/seduction02/02/13 10:54 AM
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COMPLETELY IGNORE THE FRIENDS COMMENT. Treat it like it never fucking existed. In fact treat it like she just said "I had a great time, we can hang out but it would only be to exchange orgasms"(ie: THIS BITCH LOOOOOVES ME) Don't bring logic into this. Do not engage her in anyway on this. REMEMBER THE GOLDEN RULE: IGNORE EVERYTHING WOMEN SAY. ONLY PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR ACTIONS. IF she won't put out later than she will just continue to abuse your time and energy if you let her, in which case you …
/r/seduction01/02/13 12:50 AM
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COMPLETELY IGNORE THE FRIENDS COMMENT. Treat it like it never fucking existed. In fact treat it like she just said "I had a great time, we can hang out but it would only be to exchange orgasms" Don't bring logic into this. Do not engage her in anyway on this. REMEMBER THE GOLDEN RULE: IGNORE EVERYTHING WOMEN SAY. PAY ATTENTION TO ONLY THEIR ACTIONS. If she sticks around she is compliciti in her own seduction. And if it gets to a point where something is not happening, just tell her you're just a…
/r/seduction01/02/13 12:49 AM
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Everything is chemical. It is an addiction. Love/Onetitis, etc is one of the most powerful things you can feel and it all comes down to dopamine/oxytocin/vasopressin/testosterone/etc
/r/seduction01/02/13 12:41 AM
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The problem is most people relapse and it's incredibly easy to do. One smile, one lol, one positive interaction and you can be sent tumbling right back to square one. This is why you gotta completely disconnect from your Oneitis. Either (in whatever way you want to say it) be honest "this is what I want, if you can't give it you are to never talk to me again" or just leave. Recently I have an ex that I still think is sexy as hell, she moved away, we chatted for a minute over skype, and after tha…
/r/seduction01/02/13 12:37 AM
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One of the girls I started dating recently, she is one that initially takes her a while to warm up and get comfortable (so this happened on the 2nd date, usually I do the kiss mid-1st date)...we were walking to another bar I said 'here give me your hand" we walked a little more and I said "you should remember this spot." she asks why, I looked her dead in the eyes said "come here" and kissed her which lasted for a good minute or two.
/r/seduction29/01/13 03:12 PM
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greater level is sort of rightish and sort of wrong and at the same time kind of useless in that sentence. Primordial is a better go of it. If I could rewrite it I would just say: "No red pill just means coming into conflict w other peoples realities on a greater level, how you handle that is up to you"
/r/TheRedPill29/01/13 01:13 AM
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false. so false. Just another crutch.
/r/seduction28/01/13 03:19 AM
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You want something worth its weight in gold that I just discovered the other day is The Black Phillip Show (no longer on the air). I promise, Ive been around a while, read a ton, experienced a ton and this guy gives amazing intermediate / advanced advice that applies to both seduction and long term relationships. Here are some 5-15 min tastes (as each show is 2-3 hours of awesome) from youtube: Women don't want to win, they want a winner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmw2YRJ1LY0 We're better t…
/r/seduction27/01/13 04:38 AM
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No red pill just means coming into conflict w other peoples realities on a greater level, how you handle that is up to you
/r/TheRedPill26/01/13 11:47 PM
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The other thing you can do is start getting fit yourself, really take working out seriously, let her see how other attractive women are around you, how they are responding to you. She will motivate herself to get fit, come to the gym w you, etc. Also tell her how sexy you think it is when she sweats, when she does this one thing while working out, etc...how sexy she is while she is yoga-ing, etc
/r/TheRedPill23/01/13 08:50 PM
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Im curious on books (fiction and non-fiction) that you found insightful or influenced your perceptions.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/13 01:24 AM
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Be cool to get a reading list of books you guys recommend going through. Saw only a couple reviews on your pickuppodcast site. much love.
/r/seduction18/01/13 12:10 AM
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Follow this book up with The Charisma Myth seriously. They compliment the hell out of each other and Charisma Myth breaks it down into specifics.
/r/seduction18/01/13 12:08 AM
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Easiest way in a casual framework out side of telling her 'you know if you and I keep hanging out we're going to get together' or misinterpretating or innuendos..... Play questions game and lead up to the question: have you ever fantasied about being w another woman?
/r/seduction09/01/13 11:40 PM
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Usually I tell girls shoot me a text when you get home safe. When they do text if I'm not already passed out and I do respond I usually say something like: This pleases me I knew you had it in you Sleep sweet Etc
/r/seduction09/01/13 11:37 PM
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read every article on http://www.solvemygirlproblems.com You will be armed to the teeth for this situation. Some points: be amusingly aloof know when to withdraw your attention (sex is the ultimate reinforcer for women, for me it is attention), never reward bad behavior competion anxiety - you are desired by other women You have the options to cheat, but WOULDN'T. You just have the option to. Never let them see you sweat. Always come from a place of strength. be loving but not out of neediness A…
/r/seduction09/01/13 06:22 PM
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you can ask her what her plans are later in the week if you want to ask a question that way you can then tell her what day to come meet you. In this situation, I'd just say “Hey, I’m at _____. Come join me.”
/r/seduction09/01/13 06:13 PM
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If her interest level is high or at least 70% she'll be up for seeing you again. If not her interest level is low, withdraw your attention, spin plates, have options, be amusingly aloof. Get her interest level up, she will walk through the fires of hell to see you, talk to you, fuck you. ps. Id probably save the code names/escape plan stuff for your second text after she responds and is interested in coming out w you.
/r/seduction09/01/13 06:11 PM
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only if she's a fun girl and plays along well.
/r/seduction09/01/13 03:10 AM
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I was talking to my friend about this the other day, and hey gave a great idea he likes to use when playing this game. One of the easiest ways to turn the game sexual is to work up to the question, asking her: "have you ever fantasized about being with another woman?"
/r/seduction07/01/13 07:01 PM
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Always my friend. I know it's hard to not want to say something, hell I feel that emotional pull a couple times a day, most strongly in the morning and at night but any attention at this point may create comfort, affection or rapport but not attraction or interest. None of which will do any good. And in the case of mine she started seeing a nice guy type who is super sweet to her and whether your ex is seeing anyone or not the best thing you can do is nothing and let the future lie where it may …
/r/seduction06/01/13 10:59 AM
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should have just said to the attractive girl that walked up to you "And what if you're the one I think is cute." and invite her a long to play chaperone on the date, hang out with the two ladies and make the magics happen. (or get both numbers and play it that way)
/r/seduction05/01/13 09:10 PM
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She just needs to have a higher interest level. You need to have higher value. Its like being charming, if you have low value to her, your charm will come off desperate (to her), but if you have high value to her your charm comes off, well, charming and she'll fall for you. Everything comes down to interest level with girls (and this includes when they really have a lot of shit on their mind)...it just wasn't high enough to overcome her wanting to see things continue. If you felt you played it w…
/r/seduction05/01/13 09:01 PM
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Avoid any proclivity to create space between you and your Oneitis using tactics. I know the idea can sound extremely promising, but it does more bad than good by subconsciously reinforcing her significance through painful mental bondage. Don’t block her on facebook or go out of your away to avoid her. Your goal is to not give a shit. Carelessly toss aside her memories like a used condom. A cool-­‐as-­‐fuck, absolutely untouchable attitude. No use doing anything else, once a girl verbalized her n…
/r/seduction05/01/13 08:51 PM
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Remember, for a relationship to work she needs to need you more than you need her. Not that you have to have some huge power difference, but it has to be at least 51%/49% your favor in power/attraction.
/r/seduction05/01/13 07:44 AM
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Id say 3 weeks you can call to say hi. Keep the convo short and friendly. If she care about you emotionally this is when she'd be her most vulnurable, she might offer to meet you for drinks...or give her a call and say “hey, what’s up! can’t talk right now… heading out with a friend… she owes me a beer… maybe we’ll catch up some other time.” what she needs to think is that you are completely indifferent to her. continue to play it cool.
/r/seduction05/01/13 07:43 AM
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Be 'friendly' but sexy, tone down the attention/affection unless she is showing high interest level and the attraction is pumping
/r/seduction05/01/13 06:53 AM
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well I think when you have an ultra short term relationship w a girl it could still work, but I think 2-3 weeks you should put out a contact...like if you guys liked air hockey, just send her a text "ran across an air hockey table, made me think of you. Reminded me of the many time you handed my ass to me w a devilish victory grin on your face. Put a smile on my face. Hope you're well" or some such thing.
/r/seduction05/01/13 06:51 AM
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ha that first link is so cut throat, I love it. Its hard to pull off in an emotional state of mind, but it is the right way to do it.
/r/seduction05/01/13 06:46 AM
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I agree with that link, minus the part of overtly telling the ex you want NC. You should just be indifferent to her contacts, either respond or don't, but don't give her an explanation up front for NC just do it. IF she keeps texting/calling and you don't want that, either tell her "this relationship isn't for me" or "Hey [her name] just a quick note to say hey and ill talk to you when I get the chance"...and then just don't ever get the chance (unless she contacts you later and you want to keep…
/r/seduction05/01/13 06:40 AM
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Men use relationships to get sex. women use sex to get relationships. So by that standard, a man has to offer is dominance, attention/affection ( = nurture/protection)...so when a woman withdraws (she has a low Interest Level at this point) and you chase her, plead, etc and do not give her space, her attraction level drops. When you cold turkey withdraw all your attention (your ACE IN THE HOLE as a man), you boost attraction just by doing nothing and you lower her value (or at least she will fee…
/r/seduction05/01/13 06:30 AM
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= win / win either way it plays out
/r/seduction05/01/13 06:24 AM
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"And I thought I was the biggest bitch here!" / "that's not true, I've already had two fantasies about you and although I give you a B+ we seemed to get along pretty well" You: C+ her: what You: “You’re flirting skills. Not bad, room for improvement if you apply yourself.” OR “Just what I needed tonight.” Smirk a little here. “A ballbuster.” Stare, cock head, blank face. “Charming.” “It’s a good thing I met you. Nice girls bore me.” “I’ve gotta hand it to you. I was expecting a sane, boring girl…
/r/seduction05/01/13 12:44 AM
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This guy right here. Always be willing to walk away from her, whether you've known her for 2 days or 2 years. If she is off to you, you are off to her. Also it helps if she knows other women want to be with you. That you are the type of guy who could get with other women, but WOULDN'T because you like her. Remember, if they see you as a confident strong guy, being vulnerable (ie taking risks) is a good thing, by being vulnerable (putting your intent out there in the world) you polarizing them on…
/r/seduction04/01/13 08:51 PM
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read the shit out of this site: solvemygirlproblems.com Here is one article, its geared towards ex, but if you blow through this guys site (especially everything tagged under relationships), everything fits together and you will have all the answers you need: http://www.solvemygirlproblems.com/2010/11/how-to-get-your-ex-girlfriend-back/ Comes down to her interest level man. Ignore everything a girl/girlfriend/ex will ever say to you about their reasons for not jumping in bed with you and think p…
/r/seduction04/01/13 08:48 PM
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Be confident ALWAYS. You're insecure behavior is only going to make her rationalize to herself that she must be doing it for a reason cause after all to herself she is not a bad person and you are going to get all the blame. Your needy behaviors will only reinforce the behaviors you DO NOT want. Talk to other women. Let her know you are a wanted man. Laugh off her talking to other guys, trying to make her jealous, her being al ittle player, trust me you start talking to other girls and she can s…
/r/seduction04/01/13 02:28 AM
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if you really gotta respond, wait to respond till tomorrow afternoon. something like "you can make it up to me later" EDIT: Just fully read the post. don't rationalize a woman's behavior. She did not have the respect to text you ahead of time, she texted you 10 MINUTES AFTER you were supposed to meet. If she is not walking through the fires of hell to be with you or give you a valid explanation for her behavior I'd treat her like a next and withdrawal ALL ATTENTION (fuck what she thinks about th…
/r/seduction04/01/13 02:13 AM
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5th text just say "we'll see" or make a demand "Ok if you tell me you like me" (she'll either do it, or as 'I have to tell you I like you?' to which you say Yes, or she won't and then you just withdrawal all attention). Always assume attraction. Don't bring up exes. Don't ever worry about specifics of what a girl is saying. Think instead in her INTEREST LEVEL. If she is seeing her ex, or not willing to meet a demand/compliance, or blowing you off, then her interest level is low enough she is not…
/r/seduction04/01/13 02:04 AM
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Confidence in it's rawest form is fearlessness. It's a mindset and it's also a muscle. You build it through pushing through failure and discomfort. The more you push yourself into new situations the less new they become the more desensitized you become to them, the less fear you have, the more trust in yourself you carry. If you fear something, YOU SHOULD BE DOING IT. Be excited to step outside your comfort zone and get the faith that you have the ability to handle anything and not let anything …
/r/seduction04/01/13 02:00 AM
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+1. Eric always brings the thunder.
/r/seduction04/01/13 01:51 AM
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When a GUY gets jealous of ANOTHER guy, it DECREASES your girlfriends attraction for you and INCREASES her attraction towards the other guy. Your jealousy of some other guy is a sign that he is superior to you. And as a result, your girlfriend is naturally inclined to be drawn towards whoever you’re jealous of. Always be confident. Never complain. Never whine. People will rationalize their behavior if you complain to them. As for this situation, I'd just drop her and withdrawal all attention. If…
/r/seduction04/01/13 01:50 AM
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Google: The Rawness - Becoming a Renaissance Man series The Rawness - Reader Letters 1-5 series The Rawness - Myth of the Middle Class Alpha Male series amazing stuff. Along with Heartiste's blog its an eye opener I also found this blog just today, pretty fucking killer (ie. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED): http://www.solvemygirlproblems.com
/r/TheRedPill03/01/13 06:14 AM
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Have the attitude of: If you perceive her tests as playful and cute, they will often turn out harmless. thinking about it I'd probably just shrug and start talking about something else.
/r/seduction31/12/12 04:36 AM
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just tell her: the last women that said that to me I ended up sleeping with. or 'maybe you're just out of practice' or walk away
/r/seduction30/12/12 10:11 AM
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Love Test and The Ring Routine This is pure gold, doesn't take much to memorize but BOTH are literally chick crack. I've had girls text or call later wanting to do it with their friends and asking how to do it or what everything means. basically I'll bring it up like "hey lets do something, I bet I can tell you a lot about yourself. Might even be stuff your best friends don't even know about you" The Love Test (NOTE: you tell her what her answers mean after the full test is run through) original…
/r/seduction26/12/12 10:37 PM
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AGREE AND AMPLIFY examples: Her: You never got me anything nice Me: You’re right, we were totally horrible together. Good thing we totally split up! Her: “You’re late all the time.” ME: “You would be too if your ten other girlfriends were constantly bugging you.” HER: “I hate the way you kiss with the side of your lips.” ME: “Next time I’ll aim for your ear.” HER: “Yeah right…no woman would want you if you were the last guy on earth.” ME: “That’s not what your {name of her best friend} said the …
/r/seduction26/12/12 10:20 PM
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Basically handle it however you want. Off top of my head in no particular order this is what came to my mind: “You have naughty eyes.” silence. stand there and have a slight smirk. Ignore it. or just be nonreactive saying something like ‘hmm’ or ‘hmm...you’re crazy’... or ‘your mom’ “last girl who said that to me I ended up sleeping with.” "my heart will go on" "sure" "right" "gay" "keep talking like that you're gonna turn me on" "you're cute" "you're totally right, I should hire you as my bodyg…
/r/seduction26/12/12 10:10 PM
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/r/seduction11/12/12 04:42 AM
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what the guy above said. Think of it as having fun with life. And when she is being truly genuine and vulnerable, then you do the same in kind but from a place of strength and not neediness.
/r/seduction21/11/12 07:12 PM
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heres a good sum up, scroll down towards end of this post to get a great sum up: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/alpha-body-language/
/r/seduction21/11/12 04:25 AM
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TRUE makeup sex is best sex
/r/seduction21/11/12 04:22 AM
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hey its the internet, you're welcome to believe as you wish, no interest convincing you one way or the other my friend
/r/seduction20/11/12 11:46 PM
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if you are seen with hot girls, that reflects on you. if you are seen with some par girls, that reflects on you. if you are seen with something that looks like it should be kept locked in your cellar, that reflects on you. People are constantly judging. And remember, you are constantly judging yourself in an unconscious way.
/r/seduction20/11/12 09:42 PM
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two things are essential to seduction: confusion and excitement. So this is just another form of keeping the seduction going on longer. It's like an ex gf you really like, she distant (which is a masculine quality) but can still be very tender and caring towards you, causing confusion when she leaves but excitement when she is around and doing things you enjoy, you want to posses her to make her consistent which is the exciting thing, cause once it's consistent its boring in the long term. Break…
/r/seduction20/11/12 09:15 PM
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In WWII when Germany was bombing London. When the bombing was CONSISTENT and EXPECTED people became numb to it. But when the bombing was INCONSISTENT and people didn't know what to expect or when the bombs were coming, true terror pervaded everything. No one could rest easy. There was no way for people to get used to it. Same thing with love and 'jerks'. If what you provide is not so consistent, people will work for it more, and it will provide more pleasure when they get it vs if they know to e…
/r/seduction20/11/12 09:10 PM
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hey my man, doesn't look like it went through :/
/r/seduction20/11/12 12:00 AM
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i like your style
/r/seduction19/11/12 08:17 PM
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never feel the pressure to pay. People will say all this crap about if you ask a girl out you are expected to pay. Well most girls play the passive game of expecting to be asked out. Since men are expected to do the “inviting” in the mating market any obligation to pay for his guest is rendered null and void.
/r/seduction19/11/12 08:13 AM
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make it a big deal it will be a big deal. as much as you can have a fun natural conversation, with girls you talk to and girls that ask you for directions. just throw out a hey you seem cool give me your number, lets continue this conversation soon. or if you talk to her about something she said that sounded awesome, just throw out a hey you seem like someone I should know / someone that should be in my social circle, whats your number so we can continue this another time. or you know what, you …
/r/seduction19/11/12 08:07 AM
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Im a huge fan of heartiste.wordpress.com (highly recommend working through the archives to current also going through the comments and cherry picking the ones you like, it will rock your world) and Mark Manson's models is a perfect distillation of what that site puts down without heartiste's flair for character (which does put some people off but I think is hilarious)
/r/seduction19/11/12 04:58 AM
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Its a good book from what I remember. Although I'd recommend very highly both Models by Mark Manson (amazing book) and The Book of Pook (free ebook on the internets)
/r/seduction19/11/12 02:52 AM
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trust me same things happen over texts, it loses the original inflection in which it was meant. Chained to the written word can be a bitch sometimes And I do think being vulnerable and sharing emotions and intentions is very important in a relationship. hell I let people know I like them or Im curious about them right off the bat. Once there is investment from both parties theres no reason to be a robot and at some point you have to be real. Just don't fall into her mindset, come from your own w…
/r/seduction19/11/12 02:21 AM
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also this does not preclude having moments of tenderness and letting a girl know you like her and care for her.
/r/seduction19/11/12 02:06 AM
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I see what you're saying. To me, Having fun and playing with her answers and just laughing at life in a way is a form of male maturity. You know what she wants and you let her know in your own way in a hey I dont take life seriously sort of way. If things happen between these two doing stuff like the above will not stop them bonding if the chemistry and time spent together and experiences they share fall into place.
/r/seduction19/11/12 02:03 AM
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sour grapes. I take that as a compliment actually. Im probably a lot closer to an understanding of women in thought if this passed you by. Her dropping the bf stuff is a woman's form of a LEADING question. Never answer those directly. She already knows how the poster feels about a relationship, so why let her words affect you at all. He's just having fun with life and should continue to live that way. It's better to keep a woman confused with misdirection than thinking she has won you over or be…
/r/seduction19/11/12 01:53 AM
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next her in your mind, put your time elsewhere, if she comes around here and there apply a little heat. don't cut her out with words (as in give ultimatiums, or say I cant talk to you anymore, etc), just use your actions, she'll get the picture. And then she'll find out how to gain your attention
/r/seduction18/11/12 11:49 PM
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thanks mate. Also I would say girls that are more on the not so sure scale, as in very hesitant to get together with you, even negative towards you, as in they are a red light to others girls green or yellows, large scale invasion of putting your intentions out there might blow her out, which in a way is fine, but a better way is the strategy of taking small bites. You take small steps over a period of time towards your goal (injecting flirtation, misinterpretation, sexual innuendo, kino, push/p…
/r/seduction18/11/12 11:26 PM
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sounds good mate
/r/seduction18/11/12 10:49 PM
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yeah it works well from my experience maybe you'll find the same brother! I find it doesn't trigger the whole I cant do this / LBJF / temporary remorse stuff. Lets them just go with it easier, no resistance to fight against in their own head.
/r/seduction18/11/12 08:06 AM
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ha. Solid stuff. Personally I might stay away from reiterating not wanting a relationship and frame it in a more fun lively way, something like 'come on wheres your sense of adventure, duder could be the love of your life, you're just going to leave him there all alone?" just playfully put her off, never giving a direct answer through which her hamster spins while what you want is firmly implied without words. Leaving it up to her to try and win you over. In which later you can after much lovin …
/r/seduction18/11/12 05:46 AM
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Another PRO tip I got, I think it was from an interview with Braddock, is when a girl is talking and telling you things, think of what that would look like in GOOGLE IMAGES. If you were to type it in google images think of the picture she is giving you would look like, whether it is where she grew up, what her lovers were like, what she really wants to do and cold read from that: If she talks about surfing...what does that give you the picture of, what kind of life would she lead, what could you…
/r/seduction18/11/12 04:22 AM
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Think about it, what are you most curious about with this girl? Outside of sleeping with her what are you most interested about, what do you like that is attractive in women? Does she have it? Small talk is dumb. You should be thinking what is attractive about her to me? Why would I choose to spend my time with her? Connect with her. Through statements and questions and cold reading, find out about her past, her love life, her family, how she treats her friends, share stories of trips and advent…
/r/seduction18/11/12 04:15 AM
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Word. What I am about to say is a generalization but I feel it is true: most people leave themselves outs for failure. Have a natural sense of destiny in yourself. Picture what you want to be and move towards it.
/r/seduction18/11/12 04:04 AM
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A lot of what makes guys good or bad at seduction naturally is they had a lot of failures and a lot of wins earlier in life. The more wins they got the more they inherited a natural sense of confidence. The point is you gotta put yourself out there anyway, and love to fail, how you handle and dissect your failures is up to you, you can use them as challenges or let them get you down. We all fail differently, and the way anyone person is failing contains so many different factors but usually ther…
/r/seduction18/11/12 04:02 AM
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I also think it is very important to polarize yourself with people. Especially girls that are on the neutral scale towards you. You polarize yourself my making yourself more vulnurable. You make yourself more vulnurable by putting yourself out there, putting your intentions out in the world. By doing that you are going to polarize her towards one spectrum or another, one being things go your way, the other being she stays neutral or rejects the idea. Either way its how you react to it that is im…
/r/seduction18/11/12 03:58 AM
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ps. Reading through Robert Greene's 33 strategies of war, all of his works apply to seduction, found a couple quotes just today: Here the source of a man's strength lies not in himself but in his relation to other people. No matter how close to them he may be, if his center of gravity depends on them, he is inevitably tossed to and fro between joy and sorrow. Rejoicing to high heaven, then sad unto death--this is the fate of those who depend upon an inner accord with other persons whom they love…
/r/seduction18/11/12 01:31 AM
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this article is a good step: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/
/r/seduction18/11/12 12:42 AM
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I am curious what you did to get out of the friendzone with your ex if you don't mind sharing.
/r/seduction18/11/12 12:40 AM
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I think the biggest thing is 1. be okay having a sexual frame around her, even saying you think she is hot, sexual innuendo, challenging her, misinterpreting things she says, being attractive and 2. being indifferent about it, having a hey I think you're goddamn sexy I want to get to know you, hear what you sound like when you cum (don't say this per say just hold that frame)...and if she's not cool w it, you still go on being your attractive self, seeing others and if she wants to tag along she…
/r/seduction18/11/12 12:27 AM
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probably too much comfort not enough push pull / attraction. Currently my mindset is I am just looking for a cool girl to drink beer w, have good conversations and who wants to have awesome sexy times, and will save all the emotional stuff for the nice guys / boyfriends in their life. Im looking for a not-girlfriend, not a girlfriend. I currently don't have time or patience to listen to all the boring shit women love to talk about or emotional situations they like to get into. Recently a good fr…
/r/seduction18/11/12 12:14 AM
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Heh, speaking of robert green he is doing an IMA right now, and he said something about seduction that applies to many situation, including this one: "Treat each woman as a separate country/culture. Stop applying the same techniques to different women. Shut off your interior monologue and penetrate their way of thinking." - Robert Greene The same goes for break ups, friends with exes, etc.
/r/seduction15/11/12 09:42 PM
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Damn you beat me to it and with fewer words ;) Solid stuff.
/r/seduction15/11/12 08:50 PM
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Agreed. Never shit talk the ex. If you are feeling anger towards them, ride it out, let it slide. Speak well of them. Wish them the best. Even if you're in the middle of some emotional shit at the beginning, open the door for them and be happy they are strong enough to leave (if they left you). If you guys don't push each other away there comes a point after the break up where one of you stops running and will come back and reconnect at some point. Unless there is some hurt that is too great. Bu…
/r/seduction15/11/12 08:49 PM
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It means you don't jump into her mindset, into her emotions, or apologize for her feelings. Stay on your territory. Sure you can and should express your feelings, you are not a robot. For example if you tell a joke and she gets really mad, you can initially be like 'ha youre cute' but if she is really mad you can just be like 'hey I didn't mean it that way' and if you really offended you can apologize for YOUR ACTIONS and their effect. I would never apologize for YOUR feelings per say (unless yo…
/r/seduction15/11/12 08:40 PM
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Blueprint is an amazing ride the first time you go through it. Nothing will fuck start your head faster.
/r/seduction15/11/12 12:27 PM
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thank you I appreciate that careful, or pretty soon you'll be buying me drinks ;) I know I bet you say that to all the guys ;) etc
/r/seduction15/11/12 12:06 PM
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It's situational. I am of the belief that you should be indifferent towards your ex. Meaning, she can text you if she wants it makes no difference to you, you're just indifferent to it and you chose what texts you want to respond to. You never give out the impression she GOT to you in the sense that you could be crying in the corner, never say something along "i just can't do this right now it's too hard/tough/emotional, etc." You're just friendly, ambiguous, flirtatious, arrogant etc. If she di…
/r/seduction15/11/12 11:53 AM
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Minus your hard fast rule you have of never ask your thinking is solid imo. There is nothing wrong asking: whats your schedule like this week can you meet later this week? then if she says "I can on thursday. Or saturday." you tell her what time and where to come. I don't need to deal with trying to tell her out of the blue the day and date and deal with a clusterfuck of work or school schedules, etc. She gives a block of time. I chose from that block and tell her when. IF something comes up aft…
/r/seduction13/11/12 08:02 AM
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his response is fine-ish, if you were just having fun and wanted to mess around and really didnt care just tell her: "I could use a good wingman" "how would you rate your wingman skills on a scale of 1 to 777?" "bring a couple cute friends with you :)." "how are those feminine wiles of yours? Id be game for a scoring free drinks adventure on a couple unsuspecting souls :)" tighten the above up a little bit could be fun. would it work? who knows. The point is who cares. usually the "nah. you're t…
/r/seduction13/11/12 07:44 AM
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Just another form of a trading principle. Any sort of psychological or physical trade with another person creates a deep relationship then if you were to just give them something / whatever they ask for. It's effective in all things, if a girl comes up and asks for a cigarette I'll usually say maybe, what have you got to trade. can you do magic tricks, a sexy dance, what are you really good at, etc?...also leaves a lot of opportunity to take it multiple routes and deepen the relationship vs just…
/r/seduction03/11/12 04:24 AM
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The first step is learning how to not give a fuck and just have fun with life. Think of it as always be smiling inside or outside. Have interest, have desire but always carry a bemused indifference if it's not working out. 99 percent of nothing in life is rarely a true tradegy (and probably a lot less than even that)
/r/seduction18/10/12 06:37 AM
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Ah, good ole outcome independence. It's one of the best friends you can make these days. reminds me of a text convo from earlier tonight: a girl I met, she texts me, then asks if Im going to sleep a few times as I told her earlier it was an early night for me. Me: what sort of womanly sorcery are you trying to finagle me into her: Umm none really, Im just the attention, cuddle type :) Me: shiiiit. you have enough cuddle buddies woman her: fuck that, I have two crazy people you're all thats left.…
/r/seduction07/09/12 10:42 AM
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Clash of Kings. I approve.
/r/seduction25/08/12 06:50 AM
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David Deangelo has good stuff, I'd also looked into some of his other stuff. Highly recommend you also check out: Models by Mark Manson (highly recommend this) http://heartiste.wordpress.com/ (highly recommended you read from the archives to current seriously) also from therawness.com google the following series from that blog: Becoming a renaissance man. Myth of the middle class alpha male. Letters 1-5 (recent series he did) All beautiful stuff. Also watch this hour long interview with Nick Kra…
/r/seduction25/08/12 06:47 AM
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I'd be much curious what you think of Story of O and Nine and a Half Weeks (the book) From your sum up of Shades (a book which is pure crap fantasy) I think you will find those two a much more fulfilling read over this started-as-twilight-fan-fiction crap that has taken over pop culture.
/r/seduction25/08/12 06:37 AM
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You're much better off sticking to Story of O and Nine and a Half Weeks (the book). 50 shades doesn't have anything on those two. Both were written by women and brutally honest about the psychology of true domination and powerlessness and true submission.
/r/seduction25/08/12 06:32 AM
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Yourself
/r/seduction19/08/12 03:09 AM
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Not bad for first time out, I sense much greatness in you. If I was god and I could edit your conversation I'd probably cut out the below: Her: Hello Me: Hey, it's you again Her: Yea, it's me again, giggle Me: You're so nice... Do you have a boyfriend? Her: Me? Me: Nod Her: Yes Me: Oh, do you want another one? (if I did say this I'd probably say "every girl can use two boyfriends." w/ a smirk) Me: ...maybe I'll share my watermelon with you. [I was purchasing beer and watermelon] Her: Laugh Anywa…
/r/seduction17/08/12 08:54 PM
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Im a bigger fan of "every girl can use two boyfriends." But original is still fine.
/r/seduction17/08/12 08:51 PM
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First meeting a girl, go for high five and bring her hand down and hold it for a bit instead of hug or hand shake. Other than that, damn good work son.
/r/seduction26/07/12 11:01 AM
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Well put, my friend. As an aside for people that may read this, think of the girls that just might go after Jericho after this interaction and think of the type of girls who would follow Rourke. Do you really want any part of the girls that would go for a guy acting like Jericho in your life? Maybe only for the short term and probably not for their healthy personality. So when you engage a guy on Jericho's level, think of the type of women in the group you are trying to attract by competing with…
/r/seduction01/07/12 04:57 AM
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Amazing hour long interview with Nick Krauser. Starts kicking into gear at the 6 min mark. link Also James Marshal 3 pillars speech is great link Other than that there is lots of great stuff all around the web that can be nabbed for cheaper than cost or paid for, however you like.
/r/seduction30/06/12 09:30 AM
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http://heartiste.wordpress.com/ http://rationalmale.wordpress.com/ also from therawness.com google the following series from that blog: Becoming a renaissance man. Myth of the middle class alpha male. Letters 1-5 (recent series he did) All beautiful stuff. Also watch this hour long interview with Nick Krauser. Starts kicking into gear at the 6 min mark. link
/r/seduction30/06/12 09:26 AM
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You always stopped giving a fuck, you just weren't true to yourself until now.
/r/seduction30/06/12 09:15 AM
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If you have true value (and you do, because you are you) anyone trying to "out-AMOG" you is just going to blow themselves out. Just ignore them and continue on with whatever you were doing in conversation...anything else is reactionary and outcome dependent. Needing to be the AMOG is outcome dependent and just another form of co-dependency. Screw that noise. You're acting like this guy is going to come in and take you value, well the secret is if you're worried someone is going to come in and ta…
/r/seduction30/06/12 09:03 AM
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Anywhere from the sidewalk on up
/r/seduction28/06/12 02:06 AM
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Haters are just confused admirers my friend :/
/r/seduction16/06/12 05:58 AM
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yeah, kiss shouldn't definitely be out of left field or anything. It should be an escalation of earlier actions. If there was no seduction earlier, leaping in for the kiss is not the best move.
/r/seduction16/06/12 02:25 AM
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Your friends are idiots. Polarize yourself. Let her make the decision to kiss you back or not. Always put the pressure on them. Not yourself. IF she doesn't smirk and slap her ass. Your friends thinking going for the kiss too soon = they loose girl = they are not acting from their masculine core. This is dumb. No girl is worth a pedestal. Act from your desires. You will respect yourself and better yet, the girl will completely respect you. Playing it safe is lame.
/r/seduction16/06/12 02:20 AM
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I didn't read this. But I saw the intial response. This is the problem: You didn't polarize yourself. You had a girl who was neutral, but didn't really act on your desires and you got in the friendzone. IF a girl is open but neutral towards you, you need to make yourself a sexual being to her, let her know you desire her, you are not the friend guy. A neutral girl will drop you in either the lover bucket, or the friend bucket. It is totally up to you. Here is what you always do with a neutral gi…
/r/seduction16/06/12 02:15 AM
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She texted me the next day and said she didn't want to be in that sort of situation right before she was about to leave for a month or two. This is a diet-lite version of all those 'I'm not going to have sex with you' moments. She verbalized her hesitancy. Now it is up to you to lead her in a way that it is okay. She is asking you for it. Remember: Most virtue is a demand for greater seduction. Situation like this, on the fence, she is hesitant to invest, push her. "when you're sixty years old a…
/r/seduction16/06/12 02:04 AM
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His book Models is insanely good. It really is an awesome distillation of everything that is out there, really ties it all together with simple and profound insights that you'll carry with you. Also highly reccommend watching this hour long interview vid with Nick Krauser (who is also very good, found out about Models through him...found out about this interview through heartiste.wordpress.com which whether you agree or disagree with his style is one of the best sources of info out there) http:/…
/r/seduction08/06/12 06:07 AM
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Like my comment above. For a woman to find smart and nerdy attractive, these need to be traits in a guy that is on her sexual radar / playing field. For a guy it's no different. If she doesn't float his boat, it doesn't matter what kind of traits she has, its just not going to happen.
/r/seduction16/05/12 04:50 AM
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For a woman to find smart and nerdy attractive, these need to be traits in a guy that is on her sexual radar / playing field Girls like hot guys in glasses, that pretend to be smart. I'm sure you can do better than that. This just sounds like you're coming from a spiteful place
/r/seduction16/05/12 04:45 AM
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It's attractive. But not needed.
/r/seduction16/05/12 04:40 AM
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Just treat them like one of the bros or how you'd treat an unattractive woman (with a little more umpf for chemistry) cause any value you apply to them is internally self-made = game = works everywhere.
/r/seduction24/04/12 02:03 AM
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A mythical beast that's beautiful and uncatchable You mean beautiful and non-existent in reality. Just like her perceived value.
/r/seduction24/04/12 01:59 AM
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I'd probably go the Brent Smith route, get some h'orderves style food from trader joes and when you talk to her tell her "day. time. My place. Bring a bottle of the best sparkling apple cider you can find" (since wine is a no go, or have her bring wine for you.)...take it from there. This can and will work even from first dates up, I've done it myself. If she is not game, tell her 'alright next time.' and make other plans unless she concedes and makes plans close to either of your places. Just m…
/r/seduction24/04/12 01:55 AM
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The attitude presented in my post may not translate into text only communication very well...the more literal minded will try to misunderstand, and the nuance challenged will struggle with the concept. Only so much attitude, tone, conveyance and charm can be contained in a quick couple of words, taking some hits on this is expected, I'm okay with that.
/r/seduction21/04/12 05:12 AM
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Totally feel where you are coming from. Just today even. I was tired from an all nighter with an ex and work today and as I was coming out of the store, across the street there was a girl and her friend standing there waiting for the bus. Eye contact, smiles across the lanes. I really felt all I had to do was walk up and even say hey what are you doing later...I know what were doing / you and I should get together / cancel your plans and come out, etc....and off onto a parallel timeline I would …
/r/seduction20/04/12 04:02 AM
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Agreed, but her perception is not without its humor ;)
/r/seduction20/04/12 03:59 AM
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That is a false premise. You're reading too much of your own perception into it and not what I was really conveying based on the one word that caught your eye and leaving the rest of what I said out.
/r/seduction20/04/12 03:58 AM
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I call this the Parallel Pussy Theorem Picture a line like this. This is your life if you DON'T talk to the girl, your life stays along this line, nothing changes, no new experiences, your life keeps going without her in it. Now this is the tangent your life takes when you talk to the girl. She comes into your life either briefly for 5 minutes or stays for a few weeks to 40 years. Your life is now in an alternate timeline/universe based on your willingness to go up and say hello. Where before yo…
/r/seduction18/04/12 01:38 AM
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However you acquire it, highly recommend checking it out. Very much worth it.
/r/seduction23/03/12 11:03 AM
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^ this. My perspective being truly 'alpha' is offering value with no need to take, having strong values/boundaries and keeping ego-ic reactions and judgments out of the mix. You don't need anything but you love everything. You're self amused, you got that smirk you face life with. You're centered and okay expressing what you like and need without needing to have the reactions of others validate anything internally. There is no lack inside of you that needs to be filled. "trying to seem assertive…
/r/seduction23/03/12 06:50 AM
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Powerful stuff. Thanks for sharing. If someone were to watch Blueprint Decoded...then read/audiobook Ekhart tolle Power of Now and A New Earth, maybe even add a reading of The Fountainhead in there...it would quite literally blow minds. (and then months later, rewatch Blueprint and how it blows your mind again with a whole nother layer you missed the first time.)
/r/seduction23/03/12 06:44 AM
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heavily recommend you check out Blueprint Decoded by Real Social Dynamics. It'll probably be a good step to take on blowing your mind. You can find it however you choose to through the internet.
/r/seduction23/03/12 06:29 AM
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Honestly you can make an outfit pretty easily..I'd be willing to make a guide for you guys. Based on your advice so far (mad love for the 514s and Express button ups) I say do it. I'd love to hear what else you'd have to say as you add in adidas sambas/black steve maddens and that is pretty much my outfit of choice. Note: If any of you are on a seriously tight budget and have an H&M in your area, you can drop 15.00 on any of their black/dark blue Easy Iron button ups (the thicker fabric ones, no…
/r/seduction23/03/12 06:17 AM
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Good post. It's late so this won't be quite as elegant as I'd like it to be but I'll add: Male dominance hierarchy is fairly firm by early adulthood. A long time ago self esteem that began to harden shortly after young adult hood was a reliable indicator to one's value. There's more that goes into this but it starts to help one understand why some people have low self esteem/submissiveness and others do not. Early success / status = more confidence, non chalantness. Also everyone knew your statu…
/r/seduction18/03/12 11:03 AM
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Hate is just another form that they are thinking about you.
/r/seduction18/03/12 06:12 AM
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Ignore it. Any reputation is better than no reputation. And people will know obviously you have some sort of power of her if she can't let it go or has to tell everyone about it, so you must of done something right if she can't move on. You win either way. No need to qualify or defend. She makes herself look however she looks, you just shrug your shoulders and live your life. Motto: "These things happen."
/r/seduction17/03/12 09:19 PM
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The other thing your last bullet point reminds me of is something I got from Joseph Campbell: The ego that sees a ‘thou’ is not the same as the ego that sees an ‘it’. By turning it from an 'it' to a 'thou' your whole psychology changes. Very effective advice in moments of anger, seduction, friendship, sales.
/r/seduction16/03/12 03:52 AM
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Learn to read minds. Mirror the body language of the person you're engaging, and you'll be able to read their emotional state. Your emotions don't just control your posture -- it works the other way around, too. Mirror her body language and ask yourself how it makes you feel. Now respond appropriately to her emotional state, and help lead her to a better emotional place. Meet her where she is emotionally, and then slowly lead her where you want to go. If you fail to match her emotional state, yo…
/r/seduction16/03/12 03:47 AM
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"Wanting to cut off the competition before it happens" says more than enough about where cold calculation and building a structure of your world around what you think women want gets you. Why worry about competition, why even let such a thought enter your mind, why not let your masculinity and sexuality and fun speak for itself and if those guys come into the picture you will naturally deal with it then, until then they shouldn't even be on your radar, unless you are truly worried about loss for…
/r/seduction16/03/12 01:39 AM
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Like with the school thing you want to dig down and find out how they relate to the topic in terms of who they are as a person, so you could say: Are you a good student, do you procrastinate, are you lazy, etc. Are you studying what you love or you just doing it for the money? You can then keep going like that, occasionally relate it to yourself and your life, make statements and keep learning something about them. Stay away from facts, I forget who said this but if you are learning something th…
/r/seduction15/03/12 07:52 AM
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Agreed. Great places to start.
/r/seduction15/03/12 07:47 AM
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Sometimes I say "how friendly would you say you are on a scale of 1-586?" or "how adventurous would you say you are on a scale of 1-688?"...could could also ask the yes no version and then later in conversation if you have to go or jet, "listen, you seem pretty friendly/adventurous/spontaneous, lets continue this some other time"..etc
/r/seduction15/03/12 06:54 AM
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This girl is a cheater and unsuccessful, but very attractive, and the best lay I've ever had. I don't know where your emotions are at in this, and like it seems like you know already no real successful relationship will come out of it and her "wish I hadn't given up on our relationship" crap is self mental masturbation...if you're okay with it tell her you just want sex occasionally from her and that is it, or if you just want to be legit friends sometimes and tell her she should introduce you t…
/r/seduction14/03/12 05:53 PM
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Common sense. People should already realize 'approach anxiety' is wired deep into the brain and hard to subdue and approaching anyone becomes easier the more you do it because you have more reference experiences where you didn't die, suddenly burst into flames, or face some form of ultimate mockery and as such you are able to override that little voice in your mind that floods you with feelings of fear and avoidance, and you're able to take a deep breath and trust yourself that you got this. I d…
/r/seduction14/03/12 05:01 PM
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when you smile, smile with your whole body :) and smile often! Walk around with a smirk on your face constantly, is how I'd phrase it. I'd also add that PUA (which is like the most beginning steps of learning seduction by having a score card you keep in your back pocket) and past that when you learn how to become better with women is just a small beginning step towards true self-actualization. PUA and becoming good with women = you build your structure of the world, your desires, who you etc aro…
/r/seduction12/03/12 08:05 PM
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Screw looking IOIs, just assume she is interested. Why wouldn't she be. The very act of her staying in a conversation is interest.
/r/seduction12/03/12 12:48 AM
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Duh. And I mean that in the sincerest way possible.
/r/seduction11/03/12 10:04 AM
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PS. I could recommend so many resources for you to check out, but most important imo would be: Book of Pook Science of self confidence - brain tracy (audio) The psychology of achievement - Brain tracy (audio) Your erroneous zones - wayne dyer (book) Pulling your own strings - wayne dyer (book) These can be found around the internet and will rock your world.
/r/seduction08/03/12 02:12 AM
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If you're inner game is that combustible, it was not true inner game but a handful of techniques you lived by in order to get external validation from women. If you had true inner game, true self actualization, what women do, no matter how many is not an issue to you. It's possible you are new to this and you haven't put much work into this yet, you need to find a way to tune the internal signals up so high on your radio that external signals will not bother you. Remember: every single thing you…
/r/seduction08/03/12 02:04 AM
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You nailed it pretty well, I have to agree with what you say. Nice guys are nice guys because they take the path of security (short term gain / long term pain) vs freedom (short term uncertainty / long term gain). They lock themselves to the single tree of scarcity where if they just opened their eyes they'd see they are really living in an huge unending open bountiful forest. You don't have to be an asshole. You don't have to be a nice guy. As long as you live the path of freedom and pursue you…
/r/seduction08/03/12 01:55 AM
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OPs fault for giving into his friend instead of placing true boundaries down on what he will and will not do.
/r/seduction03/03/12 10:16 PM
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Here is a good link about true self actualization 'A major problem with the PUA stuff is that it attacks the symptoms of one’s disease and not the actual disease itself. Most of the solutions are surface solutions. So you feel better in the short run and get some quick results, but ultimately you do worse in the long run.' I think alot of what this article says is well thought out and applicable to much of people starting out in PUA and those that haven't gotten very far into finding true self-a…
/r/seduction03/03/12 09:57 PM
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Depends on the environment. Dilated pupils are great WHEN combined with other physical / verbal IOIs. (examples: is she active in the conversation, or is she giving short terse answers, is she keeping the conversation going by asking personal questions, is she touching her hair, genuinely smiling, how much energy is she putting into the conversation vs how much energy you are putting into the conversation, etc etc etc)
/r/seduction29/02/12 04:43 AM
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Introducing NLP (started reading it based on Neil Strauss's recommendation) is pretty damn good so far and breaks down some good stuff that can be found in NLP. It's the kind of book that will only help you in communicating to others...friends, lovers, etc. I really dig it so far. I think it would be incredibly helpful to all that read it, you'd definitely take a thing or two from it that you'd incorporate into your life.
/r/seduction27/02/12 03:55 PM
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I have to ask, are you an ugly person? How would you rate yourself? Because it sounds like you're using one part of the science that goes into attraction as a justification that looks override everything else, like some sort of psychological crutch to explain to yourself that looks matter more than anything else when it comes to women.
/r/seduction27/02/12 03:52 PM
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That's a false premise. You're angling on one side of science that fits your point of view yet it is only one facet of attraction (this includes attractiveness and facial symmetry = healthy genes, the sexy sons benefit and the halo effect...all one facet of attraction in a mate). They way you are coming off, it seems like you need to read some basic works in evolutionary psychology and seduction. Casanova (a man who considered himself physically ugly) would be very disappointed in you. To me you…
/r/seduction27/02/12 03:42 PM
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This. Trust me, you'll know when no truly means no if a woman doesn't want to do something.
/r/seduction26/02/12 09:45 PM
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You don't need to do anything. It is your belief that they need to feel connected to you first before you take it off line. It is my internal belief that I don't waste time online, a woman knows enough over the course of 2-3 messages whether they would like to talk to you or not, you connect by taking it offline...through a few texts, a call, the faster you have them meet you the faster you'll know if you guys connect, you discover more about them in 2 minutes in person than you will reading eve…
/r/seduction24/02/12 06:36 PM
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I knew this stuff already, but thanks for posting this over here. I was looking for something like this to give a friend
/r/seduction24/02/12 09:41 AM
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Why is it interesting she picked up the tab? In my experience this is normal for me with women I am dating. I rarely pay for women outside of a drink here and there if we are together having a great time and you know it is really on.
/r/seduction24/02/12 09:38 AM
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Skip asking should I get a condom. Just reach for one. She will stop you if she is not ready. PS. More like you decided on "yes"...she's just along for the ride
/r/seduction24/02/12 09:32 AM
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Don't even bother asking her to take it off line. Just tell her it's time to do it. I usually take it offline in my second or third reply. Some recent examples below: 1- Me: Quick question, how adventurous / spontaneous would you say you are on a scale of 1 to 774? Her Response: blah blah Me: This pleases me. You and I just might get along. We should celebrate this by distracting each other over text tonight. If you're up for the challenge you can find me at (my number) 2- I never got around to …
/r/seduction24/02/12 09:29 AM
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Here is two videos of him doing his thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8YhjjGLtmM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUYql-4cMfw&feature=player_embedded#!
/r/seduction21/02/12 06:55 AM
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You're a good man sir.
/r/seduction16/02/12 12:13 AM
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Good stuff. I would also probably add in the fiction and seduction/evo psych books he recommended people check out
/r/seduction15/02/12 09:10 PM
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Or even better how about this line from Shark Attack 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1XOfHax6Q8&feature=youtube_gdata_player Her: I'm really exhausted. Him: me too but I'm really wired, what do you say I take you home and eat your pussy.
/r/seduction15/02/12 09:45 AM
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Agreed. "Meet me for a drink later this week." - boom. assertive and can be take it or leave it if she says anything but yes. "I can meet for a drink later this week." - I'd use something like this if she's chasing or putting in effort to make plans with me.
/r/seduction15/02/12 12:50 AM
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Sounds like you done good. Just always be relaxed and in your reality. Also REFRAME EVERYTHING. For example if she says her room is messy just tell her she's just a relaxed person or shrug your shoulders. etc. And yeah with LMR if she's there saying no sex, it's definitley on her mind and what she'd like to do, just treat her as she is turning you on and she needs to get off you (flipping the script) or just shoulder shrug and say I understand maybe even add in a 'I'm having so much fun doing th…
/r/seduction12/02/12 10:04 PM
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Both these sites forgot to add in the book The Mating Mind by Geoffrey Miller which is one of the best out there. Here he is on youtube in two great videos that will kind of give you a taste of what you're looking at: Start with this, this is him at a David Deangelo program: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM8YqL_8IJo Sex, Mutations and Marketing: (eye opening vid when I first saw it imo.) He starts talking at 6:10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_-5a-QfXI Anyway, now go forth into the world, en…
/r/seduction06/02/12 06:44 AM
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I have. I heard about them through Alex Benzer, who did an interview with David Deangelo and is the author of Tao of Dating (which is actually a great ebook)...and they both waxed on about her...her two books are solid and compliment the others that are reccomended in the sites below. Ps. David Deangelo's Interview with Dating Gurus and Love System's Interview series are incredibly solid and contributed some amazing ideas that blew my mind (and Im still going through them) . If you need help see…
/r/seduction06/02/12 06:36 AM
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I recommend a combination of what these two pages say if you're just starting out: Ignore the timeline on this, but his suggestions are excellent for a starting program (all the books are gold, imo, and contributed (and complimenting the others) to what I feel has been my personal growth): http://www.freedomtwentyfive.com/2011/02/how-to-learn-game-in-one-week/ I recommend reading all of this site, from the very first post in the archives to current, maybe keep open a google docs page and copy pa…
/r/seduction06/02/12 06:29 AM
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I recommend everyone study the hell out of evolutionary psychology in general. But both of Helen Fisher's books are highly recommended.
/r/seduction06/02/12 05:56 AM
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lol. Everywhere.
/r/seduction02/02/12 05:08 AM
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I'm curious if you guys have any books you've enjoyed or helped you in life...can be related to pick up or not.
/r/seduction02/02/12 03:49 AM
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Own it or bust her balls, or essentially back turn on her silently or physically
/r/seduction29/01/12 12:53 PM
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New: You're very cocky. Response: Come here. [just go straight for a kiss...if she pulls away, smirk...if she lets you kiss her, push her away after a sec and tease her]
/r/seduction25/01/12 10:39 AM
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Alpha Jerk Mode: Throw it over her thinly clothed tits.
/r/seduction25/01/12 10:34 AM
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Real life note: If a woman ever hands you her drink and says hold this and you don't have a chance to respond before she darts off, drink it all and then go do your own thing.
/r/seduction25/01/12 10:33 AM
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Harden up, princess
/r/seduction25/01/12 12:20 AM
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Note: Instead of asking "is water okay?"...say no problem, turn to the bartender and order her a water.
/r/seduction25/01/12 12:14 AM
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Ditto that. I'd either answer her indirect verbalization of attraction with a direct action like crack a smile or lead into something else or just say 'just lucky, I guess' and crack a smile. I noticed that I just got to a point where I hate bringing out logic anywhere in situations like this, it's not even because I feel it would be qualifying or approval seeking because it's not any of those, but because logic is less fun then having fun.
/r/seduction22/01/12 08:10 PM
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'just lucky, I guess'
/r/seduction22/01/12 08:07 PM
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I always give girls hugs when we part ways, sometimes a kiss, depends. You could very well go for a direct kiss and if she is not game for it she will turn her cheek. I say always keep the pressure and tension on them and you just have fun doing whatever you want to do.
/r/seduction21/01/12 04:46 AM
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Look at her lips occasionally, maybe soft gaze around her face occasionally, look into one eye while she is talking, stay completely present, have a relaxed gaze where you relax/lower your eye lids a little (gives you bedroom eyes), don't smile much maybe smirk here and there, be challenging, be flirting/teasing, also relate and explore what she says and develop the conversation so it has balance of everything, be completely curious, sometimes give direct answers to her indirect statements and q…
/r/seduction21/01/12 04:35 AM
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Girls tell you what they think they want. But Im going to let you in on a little secret... ...even if they truly want the things they think they want, *they only want them from a guy on their sexual radar. They want them (but don't need them) from a guy that is already capable of pushing their buttons the way they like and respond to. *
/r/seduction12/01/12 01:41 PM
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False premise.
/r/seduction12/01/12 01:38 PM
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Don't demonstrate (hv), just have.
/r/seduction12/01/12 01:37 PM
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A well worded headline will get you everywhere. Kind of like flattery.
/r/seduction12/01/12 01:36 PM
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Limiting belief.
/r/seduction12/01/12 01:32 PM
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Internet is never complete with out one of you. And I say that in the most loving way possible
/r/seduction30/12/11 09:13 AM
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Thanks. / Thank you. / I appreciate that...(continue into a conversation)
/r/seduction30/12/11 09:12 AM
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It shouldn't be the only material you study but you should go through the fastseduction.com archives and download all of MrSex4uNYC, Zan, TylerDurden, Maniac High stuff. There is ton's of gold in there on how to manage relationship expectations. You set the frame. If you are not up front with them, you are going to hurt them or lie to them because you are not managing their expectations of the relationship and hence they will be hurt by you and will hate you. If it's that way IT IS YOUR fault. T…
/r/seduction21/12/11 12:22 AM
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Yeah seriously, this guy should read Pulling Your Own Strings and Your Erroneous Zones by Wayne Dyer...fantastic books on boundaries and thoughts/feelings emotions, how guilt/worry and worrying about the how others react to you is silly, pulls no punches To OP: whether you feel this girl 'seduced the shit out of you' or not, you made your choice, you played an active role, you make it seem like you went on a passive trip and oops, look what happened, you knew where the potential of it was going,…
/r/seduction04/12/11 09:36 PM
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take the "...I was just wondering if you like to get a bite to eat sometime?" and substitute it with something along the lines of "...and I figured it was finally time to come over and say hello." or "and I wanted to come over and introduce yourself." - I usually wait for girls to ask personal questions and ask my name etc to gage their interest but during the day time I'll usually introduce myself right after opening. Introduce yourself, ask what she's doing or whatever You can say something li…
/r/seduction30/11/11 01:04 AM
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Some of the best books on boundaries and not having people fuck with you is: Your Erroneous Zones - Wayne Dyer Pulling Your Own strings - wayne dyer I picked them up after seeing they were recommended by Braddock/Mr M from Love Systems. Highly recommend picking them up.
/r/seduction23/11/11 10:35 AM
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This is good. I prefer: "When are you going to grow some balls and come over here and kiss me."
/r/seduction19/11/11 09:27 PM
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Kino as fast as you can. Socially, etc. Lead her through doors by a hand on the back, ping her arm, hands, whatever when possible etc. If you really want her to shut up you could always say "When are you going to grow some balls and come over here and kiss me."
/r/seduction19/11/11 09:26 PM
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Women gain pleasure chemically in their minds from talking. Talking is also a very feminine trait. (this is from the ebook Practical Female Psychology...which also made a point that you want to let her talk more anyway because its more feminine, while you talk less and hold more eye contact because that is more masculine...it was an interesting idea they went into detail about) Singing releases endorphin so it's probably along the same lines as that.
/r/seduction19/11/11 09:24 PM
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Agreed on the Oh Fuck list. Just out of curiosity because I am always looking to improve what kind of questions do you usually roll out with. One I always have fun with that works well when things are going good is Asking them about the kind of bad dates they've been on. I usually love talking about dynamics between men and women right off the bat anyway.
/r/seduction19/11/11 09:19 PM
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I have another post in this thread along the same lines you might enjoy. Always assume attraction. In fact when you approach her imagine you've already had her in your bed naked, writhing around, calling your name wanting you to come to her. Talk to her like you two have already been intimate and sleeping together. Assume familiarity. Assume every woman is your girl. Remember, the stronger frame wins in an interaction. So if you have that frame she will fall into it or leave if she is not intere…
/r/seduction19/11/11 09:09 PM
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Rejection / Fear / Humilation. It's all in your head. It's not real, it has no basis in reality. I choose to re-frame everything negative. First when they reject you, they are not rejecting YOU, they don't know you, just a small slice over a few minutes that may have not even been conveyed that well. Yeah it may be her loss, but its your loss to because she is cute, you would have had fun with her, but she can choose her own path, you'll never ever be 100% successful. Two. Be excited to be rejec…
/r/seduction19/11/11 09:00 PM
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