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Not sure I agree. Once pulled this Irish girl and felt like any more and I'd only have half a tongue. Keep the tempo to what you're comfortable with, girls love a guy who takes the lead. If all you're focusing on is copying what the girl does then you're just following. Just hedging myself here: If you have little experience then do match what the girl does, just because then she can't complain since she's criticising her own pulling technique.
/r/seduction27/10/13 11:00 PM
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I was relating it to the concept of 'gaming' women. With respect to the lowering of the self esteem, which, as is stated in this article, is seriously inflated by women, when it needn't be.
/r/seduction09/10/13 06:46 PM
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Thanks for your view, I'm trying to build a big picture around the subject.
/r/seduction09/10/13 06:13 PM
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Don't let her go. Girls like that come around once in a blue moon.
/r/seduction02/10/13 04:28 PM
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I'd say it's true though. Young, healthy and able to travel and achieve some of your outrageous dreams.
/r/seduction02/10/13 04:18 PM
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19, you're entering the best years of your life.
/r/seduction25/09/13 03:56 PM
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Not just chicks man. Everyone loves a guy who can swim.
/r/seduction03/09/13 11:24 PM
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Gotta crawl before you swim.
/r/seduction03/09/13 10:59 PM
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Ground control calling to you mate, How would you change the fact that your SW scale is still totally subjective to the person claiming the Girl's SW? The HB scale to all intents and purposes (even though claimed not to be) is a means of judging a girls looks, before personality. How can you 'spot' and HB9 and judge her because of her own self worth and personality before you've even met her. Until somebody comes up with a drastically different scale there's little need to change the current rat…
/r/seduction28/08/13 05:14 PM
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Imo, unless you're fantastic at talking, it's near on impossible to build attraction past the k-close with words alone. It's got to be in body language and physicality. A girl will physically show you if she wants you to do more by the way she kisses you and gets physical. The only thing you should really need to say if you're in a public place is 'let's go' and sometimes that's not even necessary - just take her hand and head to the exit. She'll let you know if she isn't comfortable.
/r/seduction25/08/13 06:48 PM
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Only danger in hosting a party with people you don't know is that you're entire room could get trashed and things stolen. Just put yourself about a lot and you'll be fine. Talk to everyone you see
/r/seduction24/08/13 09:26 PM
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Keep your door open and a tin of biscuits in your room. Everyone is excited when somebody new arrives, and love it if you're welcoming. I was in the same position when somebody moved into my halls 2 weeks before summer exams ... Everyone on my floor was excited to see who it was. He turned out to be a good lad because he smiled a lot and was always positive.
/r/seduction24/08/13 09:25 PM
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Thanks for the support, it's nice to know somebody reads my stuff aha. It was a rather strange decision on my part. I know that the whole purpose of gaming is to try it on with lots of different girls, but I'm slightly different. If I'm with one girl, it's very rare for me to move on unless I get properly pied on a night out: I tend to stick with the girl I close, namely because if she meets my standards, I will want to spend time with her and give her my attention. The situation I was in on Thu…
/r/seduction24/08/13 09:11 PM
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It's near impossible to accurately judge a girl"s age when they're around the 18 y/o mark. I'm 19 and I struggle too.
/r/seduction23/08/13 11:18 PM
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I totally agree. Everyone experiences 'Failure', but it's how we deal with it that affects us as a person.
/r/seduction23/08/13 02:01 PM
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I don't know, unless you're going for a paper bag job the face has to be decent, but I totally agree with what you're saying. If a girl raises herself above other people because of her looks, she'll only ever be rated on her looks and for a quick pull. Girls like that will always struggle with relationships, so I steer well clear!
/r/seduction20/08/13 08:47 PM
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Failures of the past are exactly that; In the past. Whether you believe them to be failures or learning curves it's up to you. It seems to me that you have a mentality in which failure is not an option, what you perceive failure to be is something only you know. Draw on your successes as a person to build your confidence outside your comfort level. Nobody is born being awesome at everything. Work on it and don't see 'failure' as anything more than a lesson in which you've taken experience. Impro…
/r/seduction20/08/13 08:45 PM
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Or a giant three-headed dog.
/r/seduction20/08/13 11:08 AM
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My School relationship was a mistake because I was smitten and overattached. The time is spent with this girl (9 months) quickly became a real strain on me, but I couldn't end it because I felt in love at the time. As such, I invested a huge amount of time in the relationship, time that should have been invested in studies. Whilst I still got good grades (and into Uni) I didn't hit my full potential. Inexperience with younger (and older) ridiculously hot girls can be from their aloofness, believ…
/r/seduction19/08/13 07:42 PM
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Absolutely. What I should have said was just to not CARE about whether the outcome is positive or negative. If you go into interactions thinking that you have literally NOTHING TO LOSE, then you get into the mindset in which you cannot fail.
/r/seduction19/08/13 07:38 PM
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Just don't care any more. You've got a wife and have been (happily I'd expect) married for 20 years. Like you said, you're successful and have a good life, you need not worry about chatting to a pretty girl. You're not trying to game them, shit man, you don't need anything from them, you'd only be chatting to them for your own enjoyment, just like any man or not so hot girl you'd talk to normally. Sometimes it's easy to forget that good looking girls are still as normal as you or I (assuming the…
/r/seduction18/08/13 09:43 PM
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It's funny, you're like my US identical; My old highschool (sixth-form/college/school) was all boys, with the girls school about a 5 minute walk across town aha. I had a GF there but it was a mistake - like you say, school is all about prioritising your academics to get into university (college in US/Can), where you'll meet all the more mature girls. Something that really does become more apparent now is how immature some of the younger, even 18 y/o, girls can be. I prefer a girl with at least a…
/r/seduction18/08/13 09:34 PM
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By all means brag away sir. I would if I looked older - maybe it'll get you some more experienced older girls. It's just worrying for guys of my age and up when a 16y/o could look 19. Hence my reasoning for sticking to Student nights - If a girl uses a fake ID to get in (In the UK everyone gets ID'd everywhere in popular places) then it isn't my fault if I approach and she's younger since it's expected that anyone there is at least 18.
/r/seduction18/08/13 08:31 PM
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You're fucking lucky chap, I get ID'd in Sainsbury's
/r/seduction18/08/13 08:16 PM
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Oh, that's not Stefan, it's .... Alan Allan, Allan, Al, Al Oh, wait, no it is Stefan
/r/seduction18/08/13 08:15 PM
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Building on from this - As a result of our loss of confidence, and increase in AA Breakdown of CLS So CLS is a term I’ve adopted on a night out. I don’t know who coined it, but I use it all the same and I have a feeling that plenty of you guys experience it, especially towards the end of an unsuccessful night if you go out with the ‘I want to pull tonight’ mentality. CLS means ‘Complementary Lowering of Standards’ and refers to a time at which you’re willing to approach HB of a lower rating than…
/r/seduction18/08/13 08:05 PM
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I'm 19 and I find it ridiculously hard to tell girls' ages. That's why I stick to student nights so I know I won't get into any trouble.
/r/seduction18/08/13 07:30 PM
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No, but a business associate will never have interacted with one of my best friends. It would however be 'behind their back' if you were deliberately doing something that would be detrimental to your friendship without telling them: taking business from your friend, going for a promotion or job that your best mate has applied for, just because it's there. I'm not trying to put you down pal, if you value your friendship with your good friends but also want to shag their exes then its probably bes…
/r/seduction18/08/13 07:26 PM
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|Says no. This fills me with some confidence. What worries me is why you need it to be a rule and not something that would never be considered.
/r/seduction17/08/13 04:58 PM
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Sooo boring. It got to the point that I just went to sleep. Needless to say she wasn't happy ...
/r/seduction17/08/13 04:56 PM
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By using that mindset it seems to me that you don't give a shit about your close friends. As far as I'm concerned its disrespectful to your friends to do anything behind their back - whether that's sleeping with their exes or something different.
/r/seduction17/08/13 04:53 PM
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A trait I find really unattractive in HBs though is that they take advantage of the fact that they're and 8+. Whilst I like the chase, girls who make themselves aloof because of their looks is a complete turn-off. Hence why I'd go for a less attractive girl who I can actually talk to.
/r/seduction13/08/13 12:33 PM
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Humorously Unattractive HB2 ... Banter!! (How they can still be referred to as an HB is beyond me)
/r/seduction13/08/13 12:28 PM
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Easiest way to become friendzoned is to stop using gaming techniques for closing; Don't kino-escalate, don't ignore and neg your target (since you shouldn't have any targets) and don't be sexual. Use all the rest of your good openers and show them that you're an interesting cool guy. If a girl knows that you don't want to be in her pants, then she's more likely to befriend you. And as /r/mizu4444 said so well, then ask them to wing you. Tbh Female Friends are the best wings (but also the worst c…
/r/seduction13/08/13 12:15 PM
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|I just smiled and nodded and fucked her right there on the park bench.| Fair Play to you sir. F-Close in a park is pretty good going. I've only managed 3rd base ... I like the point you made about keeping yourself at a high energy phase - Nobody likes it if the person they met last night is far different from the person they're meeting up with again.
/r/seduction13/08/13 11:59 AM
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Girls love a guy who's happy to make a fool of himself on the dance floor as long as he really looks like he's having fun. Honestly there's nothing better than going crazy - girls love it!! Give it a try next time. Wrt the non-drinking, I don't think it's a problem (I drink but I'm not going to have anything against people who don't) just maybe think of some way to make it funny - I'm struggling to understand why you didn't have a sip of her beer though? Was that just on principle or because you…
/r/seduction11/08/13 10:47 AM
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Perhaps telling him to fuck off wasn't the best thing you could have done.
/r/seduction11/08/13 10:40 AM
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Yes but f-closing at a club rarely results in anything more than a 1-night stand. It's possible that getting as far as he did (granted no number) may open up the field for better things if he sees her in the future.
/r/seduction11/08/13 10:38 AM
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I totally agree, though sometimes they can be a godsend. If ever there's a girl with her friends they can give you the heads up as to whether the girl you like is available/or taken. Immediately all friends will be hostile (at the end of the day you have the potential to isolate one of their friends for the entire night), but if you can win them over you've got a perfect way into the group, and you may even have the opportunity for them to wingman you over the course of the night with your targe…
/r/seduction10/08/13 04:02 PM
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Why not just get a normal bed with underbed storage. Since you appear to know ikea you can buy storage boxes perfect for under the bed.
/r/seduction24/07/13 11:40 PM
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Definitely a park or somewhere outside where its relatively public but quiet since it's summer and bound to be nice weather. The fact that it's public means that she'll never feel uncomfortable compared to if you were to take her somewhere completely secluded with you two on your own, but it should be quiet enough (if you pick the right place) for you to Kino hard and at least K-Close. Personally I'd advocate the beach because usually beaches are a bit more private, and going in the evening alre…
/r/seduction19/07/13 05:46 PM
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Would you have wanted to know every sentence of the clearly mundane chats he was making? As has been made pretty clear, he opened plenty of sets and would save us all a lot of time reading conversations which didnt contribute to the pick-up. I personally advocate the concept of 'psyching yourself out'. If you walk in like you are important, then people will believe you are important. However more importantly (no pun intended) if you feel important, you feel more confident, and it's that confiden…
/r/seduction17/07/13 07:05 PM
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All Northern European women are the shizz. If you were to mix that with ridiculously cheap fosters in spoons life would be good!
/r/seduction17/07/13 06:41 PM
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As somebody else wrote, you need to unfold your arms - folded arms are defensive and uninviting. I'm also fairly fair skinned and blonde, and as such find that lighter clothes suit me better than dark - ditch the lumberjack for a light dress-shirt (long sleeves rolled up) either plain or with a faint pinstripe (vertical stripes give the illusion of you being taller and thinner, horizontal the opposite). Unless you really need it, ditch the undershirt - it makes you look younger and doesn't exude…
/r/seduction10/07/13 06:46 PM
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I think what he means is that you shouldn't act overly enthusiastic. Make it obvious that you're in to her, but not so much that she doesn't have to do any work. Remember, there are two of you there.
/r/seduction10/07/13 06:40 PM
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Zara
/r/seduction10/07/13 06:34 PM
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I'm English, and I'm a massive fan of shirts and shorts from Zara; they're relatively good quality and have an excellent fit at a good price: £20-30/ $30-40. I'm also a huge fan of accessorising to make yourself look good. Since it's summer for us in the northern hemisphere I wear shorts a lot, and as such wear boat shoes. A really good pair cost £65 from moshulu http://www.moshulu.co.uk/mens/shoes/kingsbridge_2.htm but there are always some bargains to be had out there. When I was talking about…
/r/seduction09/07/13 06:13 PM
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