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CMVpassportbro999/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:36 AM
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i think OP is projecting. I have never seen a 6'5" guy struggle at all with women , even average faced guys. Girls lap that shit up like it's candy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:30 AM
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I feel this makes sense but NOT for Americans. American women just care if a guy has a beard, tattoos, is tall, and is muscular. Americans don't care about education or jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 04:27 AM
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Wow. Blaming the woman instead of the married, powerful man who instigated the relationship. no one is blaming anyone, its about what behavior is tolerated vs not tolerated
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:42 PM
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Is a fucking loser, thats why hes in college 22 years later than his peers who entered at 18. Yea I think this is the most crucial, vital part of this post. Men in college between the ages of 18-22 already have a disadvantage of being on roughly the same socioeconomic / status ladder as women in their classes by default. I can only imagine what women think of a guy who's twenty years behind them in the status ladder.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:32 PM
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Your argument is flawed because many men in college age ranges do not get laid either. At some higher up institutions, like MIT, nearly 35% of men graduate college as a virgin. Now, in order to attract women you need them to feel you are greater / better / more talented at something than they are . If you are an older guy in college for the same reason the 18-22 year olds are, that's a major negative. You are even below them at that point. If you were a professor / teacher, your experience likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:30 PM
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Women literally swoon over good looking, aesthetically pleasing men all the time; most men just don’t possess that level of physical attraction. I would say it's more that male attractiveness has an exponential growth curve, while female attractiveness has a diminishing / logarithmic curve. If you take two men with identical faces, one who's 5'11" and fit and one who's 6'4" and muscular, the ladder will generally do better with women. But if you take two women, generally once you reach an ideal …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:38 PM
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Disagree. Women's sexuality is largely a reflection of their environment. Men's sexuality is a reflection of the women near them. Women seem more asexual to you because the women you see are around lazy / weak / apathetic men. Women need to feel feminine in comparison to a masculine man in order to have the basis for sexual arousal. This is why men who are taller, more muscular, have more status, more intelligent, are attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:33 PM
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Social media is not social though. At best it is a rudimentary surrogate for real social contact. Social media has as much to do with real social dynamics as watching porn has with having sex. But the reality is based on studies of screen time people have of apps like TikTok, it's replacing social interaction . I would even say its a higher form of it. Traditionally there's no way for a woman to advertise photos of herself for hundreds to see outside of being a model.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:45 PM
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0 dates in the last two years, 0 interest from women. Damn, but lemme guess, SF bay techie ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:39 AM
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Now women can survive on their own, and the requirement to improve her life financially is much higher, because they are making money themselves. The average home price is in many areas of the USA is more than 10x above the average income of those areas. https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Los-Angeles_CA/overview#:~:text=Los%20Angeles%2C%20CA%20housing%20market,sold%20price%20was%20%24968.5K. The average home price in Los Angeles is $1.2m, yet the average individual income is $30k.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:37 AM
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People were selfish when I was young too and there wasn't a lack of dating and sexual success. The biggest problem is that people don't socialize and interact the same way that they used to. The two are linked. Example: Social media allows you to broadcast your opinions to the world, or post pictures of yourself online, where as before this would not be possible without being a news reporter or a model. So the degree of "individual attention" has increased, which influences selfish behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:49 AM
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peak birth rates occurred when urbanization was at its peak You haven't shown that urbanization is at it's peak though. Urbanization != population density. Gaza is the most densely populated region on Earth, and it's not considered urbanized, nor is it's population in decline (grown 25% since 2002).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:23 PM
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I am confused, a decline in birth rate would be related to a stagnation of population. Doesn't the fact that the populations of large cities has remained more or less the same support my argument ? Also you are forgetting the urbanization of rural communities. The tendency to build apartments rather than support single family homes or town homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:07 PM
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countryside it's generally a cultural one or perhaps related to age and free time for people in cities, cities certainly don't encourage people to live apart. So when i mean single person living, that includes living with roommates. Ultimately roommate arrangements are just taking a single unit and splitting it. You aren't obligated to spend time with them or be their friend etc. My argument is cities discourage living as a couple or family.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:05 PM
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I’d expect at least $250k at 31 if in my same area and industry Current bf is working on a startup so makes basically nothing and I cover most of our couple expenses Those are two vastly different scenarios. What makes you pick the $250k as a number ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:17 AM
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Anyone believing this bullshit needs their head examined. 🤡 You have to remember the invisible man effect. If unattractive men are invisible to a woman, she doesn't consider them in such a calculation . So it can happen where the men a woman has her eye on all earn decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:13 AM
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Anesthesiologists have to be on call, do you think emergency surgery happens with the surgeon or nurse doing anesthesia ? Also ER doctor by definition is an out patient speciality. They don't take care of admitted patients. Any nephrologist / critical care doc / pulmonologist / gastroenterologist that works in an hospital (again as opposed to a medical practice) is going to be quite busy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:42 PM
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This is such a random few questions here. So making 4X what your partner makes is extremely atypical for a woman. This would be a woman making say $180k and a man making $45k. If you view anything I asked as "Random", you missed the very important part of this situation. Do you have the same concern for women whose partners work a lot of hours? That has nothing to do with this post or the topic of conversation. It's perfectly reasonable to have a conversation about women earning more than men. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:45 PM
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Do you think being a doctor at a hospital automatically means no free time? Not everyone has an insane schedule If you are a doctor at a hospital, this means you have some specialty that is based around in patient care or a mix of out patient and in patient care. Thus, you can be called in for sick patients , for emergency surgery if it's a surgical specialty etc. So yes you will have less free time if you are a doctor at a hospital . Now "Free time" is not the same as "sleeping, working out, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:41 PM
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kind of socioeconomic circle is it where there are "a lot" of couples like that because in the US it's pretty rare. Only 15% of couples under the age of 45. Reddit will over represent left-leaning techie circles for USA or western based subs. Remember Google was once fined for overpaying women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:16 AM
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I’m working 85% FTE and my schedule is amazing, so I sleep and workout and have hobbies and for the most part love my life. So you have time for all that, while being a doctor at a hospital ? How often do you sleep with your boyfriend ? hows the sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:11 AM
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Something to remember is doctors have an extended foundational part of their career (med school, internship, residency, fellowship), where before thats done they earn very little. Only after that they earn a lot. So it's not so much they "chose" to marry a low earner, it's they once were a low earner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:07 AM
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There is more to a woman's life than looks, dude. A lot of women don't want to be valued just for their looks, and thus also don't want to hear "you live on easy mode, because I like your looks". Every woman I have ever met in life wears some amount of makeup on a daily basis, spends a good amount of time on their hair , fashion choices, or a skincare routine. What do you define as "not wanting to be valued for looks" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 12:00 AM
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How can a woman have healthy self esteem, if her main value is just looks and a hole? The mistake you make here is its a man to woman perspective. More often than not its women to women. Women can focus on looks purely because they want to look as good if not better than other women around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 07:01 PM
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Disagree. Women are first drawn to man's power characteristics. It could be his face, his physique, certain visual elements about him like tattoos / height / size / style. It could also be behaviors men view as being a dickhead , but those got interpreted as power.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:14 PM
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How could a woman in a relationship with you feel appreciated and valued by you, if you believe she lives on easy mode? Because men aren't turned on by achievements and hard work ? You are trying to view women through a woman's lense, not a man's lense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:08 PM
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Also, how should women build their self-worth on something they are just born with and didn't actively do anything for? How can someone be proud on something they are just born with? I mean the majority of women spend a lot of time with makeup , skincare routines, fashion, shopping, doing skin treatments etc. A typical woman puts a lot of energy into her looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:07 PM
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Does anyone see that the new chad look is a beard and tattoos ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:54 PM
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Nothing about attraction is logical. Where women are concerned, logically the best partners are software engineers. they have the highest salary relative to age and debt, and are usually well educated. But given MIT has such a high virginity rate ....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:53 AM
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It makes me think you really don’t talk to women ever. Did you ever stop to think that, maybe there are more women that exist than you ? You know, the other 3 billion of them on the planet, maybe they aren't exact copies of you ? Quite odd to me that you define femininity by stereotypical traits rather than literally just being a woman. Femininity is an adjective , not a noun. You need to meet certain criteria to be feminine, otherwise the word has no meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:22 AM
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I don't see why it's controversial that women need to feel feminine / beautiful / sexy to be open to men approaching them. Fighting and sparing isn't feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:21 PM
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I mean jiu jitsu is a masculine activity. I would doubt a man and woman who met in a masculine activity would have much chemistry at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:15 PM
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they are obviously not compatible with me, then why would I go on a second? Men wouldn’t do that, either, would they?? A man decides if he likes a woman before he asks her out. Asking her out is the first major effort/risk involved on his behalf, so calculation on whether he likes her is done before that point. So if he's already spending time on a date with you, unless there is some unforseen circumstance, he's likely to go out on more. Would you go in a second date with a woman who told you in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:08 PM
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Have you ever had a bad first date before you started touching the guy though ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 07:31 AM
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It’s not that getting a date is difficult, but getting someone that’s worth putting a ring on it? Next to impossible. Ultimately, these things become related. Yes, most men who are not obese can get a date or two or three in the states. However, in a nation with an obesity epidemic and the average weight of a woman being 170 pounds, getting a few dates leaves very little options. If one can get 100's of matches a week in apps in asian countries, they are ultimately bound to have a far greater se…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 05:20 AM
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women living in first world countries and being entitled. It's more about individualism vs collectivism. America is the individualist capital of the world. Europe is a mix of individualism and collectivism . Asia is the center of collectivism. Example, here in Singapore its a first world country more than the USA, but overall women are feminine / kind / sweet and aren't individually focused much at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 05:14 AM
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None of these were “changing my mind” really - dating is to find out if we get along and are compatible, and if I manage to find out we aren’t right away, then why would I continue? This is just dating working as intended. I guess the problem men seem to have is that they think agreeing to go on a date with a guy is like a major plus as opposed to being rejected. Do you feel that way ? What goes through your mind when deciding whether or not to agree to a date ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 05:07 AM
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I'm quite surprised by this mentality. It really is news to me. It's modern western women. If you don't like it consider leaving the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:24 AM
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Not sure what I did wrong. It was my first date in three years and it really hit me hard that it didn't work out. Did you maybe show too little interest in her ? Did you escalate at all ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:21 AM
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I wasn't expecting it, but it came across like more of a defense mechanism in case I became entitled and demanding than anything else. Did that date turn into a 2nd date or sex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:19 AM
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I think what you are not considering is most people who become passport bros are more inclined to live in non-western countries / leave the west in addition to just looking for more dating options. From expats / bros I have met, this tends to be the case. For myself, Singapore has been a huge plus on many fronts besides being able to date loads of women, an amazing country, being at a cosmopolitan center of the world, the food, the culture, etc. More often than not, most people who are dead set …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:56 AM
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the male centric society that was the dominant force The close to 60 / 40 women to men gender gap in college has existed for far longer than a few years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:05 PM
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You are the only arbiter of your worth. Everyone else can have an opinion and judge you, of course, but as long as your own opinion of you is more important than theirs, that's all that matters. Would you say that it doesn't matter if someone's in an abusive relationship as long as they themselves feel important ? What you are postulating is what I call the deserted island dilemma. What you say about valuing yourself in your own eyes is 100% correct. But unless you live in a deserted Island, it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:03 PM
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You need to passport bro or date immigrant women from Asia. American women don't care about anything that matters for a long term relationship, like education, emotions, status, money. They want to shout they dont need a man .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:00 PM
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I disagree, because you have many crimes women are repulsed by. Sure some women salivate over serial killers, but we haven't seen them salivate over pedophiles, johns (men caught paying for sex), registered sex offenders , etc. The correct interpretation is that, women are attracted to indicators of power in men, which differ by location and culture, but normally consist of leadership, physical strength, courage, fearlessness, etc. The question of being a good man is in a higher layer of the bra…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:47 AM
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So if he's working toward getting a new job (interviewing , resume improvement etc), then thats ok, but what if he said working was too hard or tiring and he just wanted to play video games during the day ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:42 PM
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If he was happier and healthier not working, I would do it indefinitely So lets say if he wanted to do just play video games and watch tv most of the day while you go to work. You would be 100% fine with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:38 PM
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The problem is not your goal, its the location. Western women have absurd standards. You need to passport bro https://youtu.be/LeaCkuYRhzM?si=qqfmjT9u9MB9JHD5 Here's a Japanese woman, literally hugging and begging a white man for his "seed", in public, in front of her boy friend. Now if that doesn't convince you, i don't know what will.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:31 PM
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While I agree with what you are saying in the universal context, in a corporate work place i do think it makes sense that talking about sexual conquests is simply going to not be healthy for the work place. Like I legitimately would not want to work with any woman who discusses how big the schlong is of her man. but also , another surprise is this year's course stated consensual relations in the work place are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:23 AM
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Sure but my point is she's skinny / healthy weight with a cute face, in a country with a huge obesity crisis, that puts you in a good statistical place for attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:16 PM
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Such a place could never exist, right? It doesn't. Social media doesn't allow it. Find me one pod cast that does and i will gladly change my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:49 PM
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Men on social media or a podcast or tv? not in the last 20 years at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:47 PM
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with "asshole", Thats a descriptive term, not a personifying term. No one using the term "asshole" is referring to the asshole of that person, they are referring to behavior. But using d*ck refers to the body part of that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:05 PM
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"Twitter, social media, etc" are not real places. They are indeed real, with hundreds of millions of users even in the USA. There are podcasts and influencers with millions of subscribers, all whom share views or become influenced by them. have yet to listen to a friend Could that possibly be because of the kinds of friends you have or seek?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:03 PM
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By ideal i mean more just that she doesn't have anything that normally turn men off. It's not like a CEO asking where are all the good men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:58 PM
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It's a job that women are better suited to do (like jewelry design or being an influencer) , but at minimum its a job that doesn't have masculinity associated with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:19 AM
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You use a tiktok influencer as your measuring stick? Tiktok is one of the most major ways gen Z communicates . Hundreds of millions of users. It's an epitome of the way information is transmitted in dating and relationships too. You know, there are people out there with actual careers, like doctors, lawyers, financial field Women aren't valued for their career status, not sure why you are bringing that up? You think men get horny by an MD next to a woman's name?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:18 AM
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Not as cute as OP had lead us to believe. She's like a 6/10. Maybe 6.5 tops. I am using statistical attractiveness here. NYC has a 30% obesity rate, and the average weight of a woman is 170 pounds i think ? So being thin, taking care of your appearance, wearing nice outfits, put you in a range where guys will notice you and think you are cute/pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:18 AM
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Apparently some women swoon over this Tom Hiddleston guy (had to google him). He does nothing for me personally. I don't get it. But to each their own. Women become attracted to men in very situational contexts, so it's hard to view attractiveness statistically in men. Like yea you can say if a guy is under 5'6", or over 300 pounds, he is likely to not be found attractive by the vast majority of women. But beyond that, it's hard to compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:14 AM
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Most people really don't care about all that, especially when they are already high status, like this woman. Yea i think people are missing the fact she is able to find and date plenty of men. Normally women do not date men they feel aren't at their level already.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:09 AM
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I mean influencers pay extra attention to their looks and normally have feminine lifestyles / jobs. They might not explicitly look for one, but they are ideal women .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:07 AM
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But are you saying its a behavior / presentation problem? Some other people in the comments think it's a location problem of NYC having too many options for top tier men . Like is your take that if a woman presents herself more as being a wifey type, AND being attractive physically, that's the more golden strategy ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:01 PM
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anxious attachment style Thats interesting, is this part of like a type of sociology / psychology field ? Haven't heard of this before.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:59 PM
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"she's not attractive" While some men have certain tastes regarding ethnicity, I am using the term "attractive" to mean in comparison to the population. NYC has an obesity rate of 30%, so this is an example of comparatively attractive body / face / career
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:57 PM
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The pool of men who exist with all features that are markedly better than hers, is going to be small even in a city like NYC and those men are drowning in options. But the question is do the presence of those options cause a disadvantage for women wanting a long term relationship with a high up there income guy ? Like is it a question of whether or not the woman in question is good enough , or is it a volume problem (too many options)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:54 PM
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I don't get your comment ? she makes quite a bit of money from jewelry design and tiktok, my point was she doesn't have a job that would potentially turn men off, like being a CEO, or being a plumber. Like there's nothing to be turned off about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:50 PM
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Step away from Tik Tok and Instagram reels, and the social media posts Unfortunately social media is the most integral part of culture and communication for gen z or most people from 16-29 now. You can't just simply make it disappear. Hundreds of millions of US users, mostly within young adult age ranges. It baffles me how many people in this sub do not understand this, or are just of an older generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:14 AM
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The vast majority of halloween parties for folks in gen z or 18-27 do involve sexy outfits. Don't think that's controversial?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:04 AM
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We intend to get married when we finish college The vast majority of college relationships aren't serious. Not saying your's isn't, but that's not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:03 AM
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and insisting on paying is atleast rude,is contrasted with other societies where the man Insisting on paying is "gentlemanly". But those are two different societies and cultures. Just like in China or Singapore, its common for women to offer to pay and then expect a guy to fight and insist on paying (this also is the case in family settings, called fighting for the bill in Chinese culture) My point is every culture , no matter how egalitarian , has it's own gender role scenarios. For spain I ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:55 AM
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Nobody gives a shit after that One word: frats
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:03 AM
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Virtually all women in the countries I have lived in (USA, Singapore) use some level of makeup on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:58 AM
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Because as we all know, someone being physically stronger means the other person can't pay for her coffee/drink/diner. Yeah,next time ill go out with my powerlifter friend ill tell him he has to pay lol. It's ironic you use a power lifter as an example since society makes power lifters irrelevant for protection with police or guns. Just saying your logic is obviously flawed because dating preferences cannot be changed by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:53 AM
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Men don't have a lot these days that distinguish themselves as men, while women have makeup, lingerie, fashion etc. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:50 AM
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most acid attacks are committed by men to random women; Where does this happen ? I am not doubting you , rather as someone who used to live in the USA, the vast majority of people there would have no clue about concentrated sulfuric / nitric acid or know any acid beyond vinegar lol most schools shooter are men; The victims of most violent crime are also men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:44 AM
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This is a rare occasion where Elon Musk buying reddit would be a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:41 AM
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you western world people have ball and go for it iam in fucking Muslim country and i still date you Just coping Muslim country is probably an advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:26 AM
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This whole post is mistaken because casual sex and relationships are not distinct sets in modern dating. Dating has shifted to where nearly all casual sex happens in the context of dates, but those dates are just for fun and not leading to commitment. This is called a situationship. So the sexual attractiveness standard for a relationship has increased because casual sex is intermingled with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:23 AM
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but it doesn’t change what is considered medically overweight or obese. 5'4" women 150 pounds is 25.7 BMI which is medically overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:54 PM
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The hardest condition is probably the 21 days and it can lead to a relationship so it's not even casual how would it lead to a relationship ? The concept is men getting sex outside the context of dating in a boyfriend/girlfriend setup. more like a situationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:46 PM
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tattoos are basically the new thing that women like. source: my half sleeve
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:41 AM
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very one dimensional tall tattooed bearded boyfriends that's basically the new chad / alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:40 AM
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all of the women are 150 pounds, u got it right https://www.crossfitincendia.com/150-pounds-look-like/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 02:49 AM
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https://www.crossfitincendia.com/150-pounds-look-like/ they are all 150 pounds
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 02:49 AM
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fraternity brothers are similarly successful in terms of dating / sex and none of us are 6ft “chads” who drive Lamborghinis and take women to fancy restaurants I would argue though greek life in college is very different from non-greek life. Like in my school that was a top school, in terms of guys there's a huge division in terms of confidence / game with frat bros vs. non frat bros. I feel there's like a "play boy mansion" effect with frats where you don't really get that elsewhere because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:54 PM
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just having that criteria of a woman who is not overweight will make it substantially more difficult. So overweight to a degree is ok for this discussion, like a 5'4" women who's 150 pounds is 25.7 BMI which is overweight. It's tricky but what I am trying to say is that the woman has to be at least average appeal to the man in question. Like dating should involve people you are at least somewhat find appealing. Otherwise it's kind of artificial.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:51 PM
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Are you from the netherlands or something? 5'4" isn't "very short" for a woman lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:55 PM
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https://www.crossfitincendia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Screenshot-2013-11-12-16.05.16.png This is from a blog post about what 150 pounds looks like on women. as you can see, taking the average height from women, 5'4", 150 pounds on average will look fat or overweight, unless that women has good genetics to distribute fat better. Also i said 150 pounds is non obese, i think its the upper limit generally where fat wont look good on vast majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:53 PM
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Above 150 pounds for most women will be overweight or at least look chubby with a flabby stomach. Not for all women, but most.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:32 PM
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For the purposes of discussion, assume 3 must be in the context of 2. one new sexual partner per year on average, but within 7-21 days of meeting. So getting a new girlfriend every 11-12 months doesn't count for this. (unless sex happened within 1-3 weeks of first meeting)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:24 PM
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to clarify though these are distinct women, not the same women. So in a 2 year period, it should be 2 different sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:23 PM
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Assume the woman is not obese or overweight according to what most men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:59 PM
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For the purposes of discussion you can assume it's a major western metropolitan city. SF, NYC, LA, etc. Are there a lot of people with demanding jobs and/or kids from previous relationships, who might not want something serious? I would say assume the age encompasses 20-37
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:58 PM
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says casual sex. It says having sex within 7 to 21 days. Exactly. It's dating not based in a boyfriend/girlfriend scenario, with reasonably soon sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:57 PM
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lol did you just compare dating casually with getting away with a crime? It's funny how women's minds go to criminals when the topic of sex and dating comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:53 PM
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Assuming they are willing to put in effort and have sex with unattractive women. For the purposes of discussion, would your 80% answer change if the women considered had to be non-obese ? Like no more than 140-150 pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:53 PM
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its a debate because it's largely a perspective based question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:50 PM
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this was much easier for me after 25, and exponentially easier after 30. This include both in-person number exchanges and apps. similar to me, but curious why do you feel this was easier at 30 then 21 or in college?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:48 PM
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Tricky idea. I don't think any man can get new woman in that period that easily with not much time To clarify, it doesn't require those dates to be successful, it just requires a date with two different women in a 30 day period. a ring, a dinner, etc. or all of that What do you mean by a ring?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:54 PM
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There aren't studies on situationships yet, but its such a popular term even womens health talks about it https://www.womenshealthmag.com/relationships/a27478820/situationship/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:59 PM
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This confirms men only want the hottest most superficial women and ignore the normal ones. That women is quite representative of "normal" women of the gen Z group.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:54 PM
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Dating hasn't shifted into casual sex first and relationships next, it's always been that way but only for high value men. My argument is more women are rather shifting the expectation of high chemistry and sex earlier in the dating process. So what you are saying does not really contradict what I am saying. More women are trying to hone in on high value men or intense sexual gratification early, which weeds out more men earlier in the dating process.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:53 PM
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This study doesn't address casual sex in the context of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:50 PM
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Situationship is just dating and sex with no talk of exclusivity . Look up west elm caleb for an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:48 PM
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all evidence suggest that the amount of casual sex (including casual sex that's called a relationship) people have has fallen and is falling. I don't believe there's any evidence to indicate situationships (casual sex within the context of dating) is falling at all https://www.ypulse.com/article/2023/04/10/how-is-tinder-adapting-to-gen-zs-situationship-era/ it's a more and more popular trend. I think the issue though is again, the terminology has changed. Are lots of women meeting guys directly …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:46 PM
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No it is new entirely. Women in the 1970's didn't sleep around with the expectation of it turning into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 03:41 AM
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This happened in the news too with west elm caleb in NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 03:26 AM
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I'm going to assume you have a great source? https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=US&q=situationship&hl=en google trends of "situationship", which is also the most common status women want on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:36 AM
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Independence doesn't have anything to do with commitment. Two independent adults can be committed to each other in a relationship. But your comment proves the point how women are purposefully putting themselves into non-committed relationships with chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:41 PM
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I would also say reddit tends to have more people in their late 40's and 50's or 60's, than instagram and tiktok. Maybe its because reddit is a little more like facebook groups ? But I think that changes a lot because instagram is a very centric gen z /millenial model.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:55 AM
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A want a nice man with a dirty sense of humor who will drink wine with me and be aggressive in bed, Would you say then that teaching men not to objectify women or talk about them sexually is bad then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 04:39 AM
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Girls will give advice on how to keep a relationship rather than advice on how to get a hookup There's a further problem though, most relationships these days start in the hookup/fwb/casual dating area and then move to commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 02:33 AM
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https://thenuancepill.wordpress.com/2023/09/26/ are-dating-apps-producing-sexual-inequality / But that only addresses dating apps, not the sexual inequality existing. The top 5% of men increasing sexual partners by 33% can only be explained by the situationship phenomena
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:30 PM
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Getting into situationships with chad isn't the same as not sleeping with sexless men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:27 PM
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Thats why the term "situationship" is so common now. The only reason a woman would not know where a relationship is going is if the guy is sleeping with other women and she wants to pretend otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:26 PM
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Disagree, women need the right environment to activate the libido. In a culture where single life is prized, disrespect to men is encouraged or celebrated, and hyper fixation on male genitals is normalized, (terms like big dick energy), what do you expect? You need environments like Asian culture which emphasize respect and kindness to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:51 AM
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That what most of them look like in Singapore though. It's scary how fat America is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 02:12 AM
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She is from where I live in Singapore, which is considered South East Asia. You also didn't state your location, which is very important in a discussion like this. most have few wrinkles and saggy body due to our lifestyle So to answer your question now that I know your relative country, the answer is that north american countries have extreme standards for male physical attractiveness but very low standards for female attractiveness. There is fat acceptance for women, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:33 PM
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30 years old is not a cougar in any way shape or form. This is some wild definition stretching here. https://www.instagram.com/p/CxMUI1hSs0r/?hl=en This is a "30" year old woman. she is not a cougar/milf.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:24 PM
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following a casual sex to dating path is actually a pretty chill strategy that has worked out great for me personally. Would you agree that this strategy would hinder men who have difficulty getting casual dating/sex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:15 PM
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I think you need to read more about "situationships" https://www.tiktok.com/@meemshou/video/7272182825548352814 https://www.womenshealthmag.com/relationships/a27478820/situationship/ The very concept that it's so wide spread and exists is that people blur the lines between casual sex and dating or a relationship, such that effectively the vast majority of people are having sex without any communicated commitment. It's almost where casual sex is like a dirty word, so it's mashed into dating witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:16 PM
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good point here, view changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:55 PM
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Oh they are. It's not called casual sex anymore, it's called "situationships" now. Also going on dates where u sleep together on the first date is essentially a dinner or coffee from casual sex. So it all depends how you define it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:54 PM
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Marriage rates are meaningless without divorce rates. Furthermore the amount of unmarried people is usually a metric that can be population wide. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/living-single/202110/there-are-more-single-people-than-ever-and-thats-not-a-bad-thing there are more single people than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:53 PM
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So, let’s get this straight: You’re mad because you haven’t been able to sleep with hundreds of hot women, correct? No, and you are committing a logical fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:51 PM
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Yea any survey about male virginity would be very unlikely to be truthful if it's about post-college ages. Right after college is when virgin shaming really sets in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:48 AM
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Average looking people are getting along just fine. By what metric?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:46 AM
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What does get mean ? one match ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:21 AM
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And focusing on getting it as any kind of life goal is bad for you, too. That's the thing though, I feel the true top percentile of men do not focus on it , at all. Their energy simply attracts women. But the catch is you have to be in the right places to be noticed and respected. For myself, San Francisco was horrible because of the hatred of tech bros, white men, jews and more. But Singapore has been heaven because people in general here, not just women, worship smart men who have important jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:05 AM
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Hmmm, so for this post I am taking a bit of a generous view on casual sex, more like calling it casual dating and sex. You meet a woman at a restaurant, have a great conversation, kiss/makeout with her afterward. Few days later, go over her house and bang. Then go out to a festival. Then say you also go on a date with another woman a few weeks later, and repeat to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:58 AM
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I never wanted a stranger to touch my body. This seems like a strawman. What do you consider a stranger?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:51 AM
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"benefits" is defined as "one is able to achieve what one desires" Are you suggesting men don't want casual sex if they had the opportunity ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:23 AM
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Ok the issue is I am not complaining. I am holding a view based on observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:15 AM
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So your criticism of me is not a logical challenge to my view. You are free to commit logical fallacies, but they are very poor debate tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:05 AM
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Ah, I see the problem. So you are referring to the sexual behavior of women, rather than the top percentile of men. Lets take 100 women, and assume that all of them will sleep with 1-2 people in a year. Let's assume they generally sleep with a guy after the second or third date. Then say only 2-3 men will have enough attractiveness to attract these women to have sex soon in a casual way. So you end up where 2-3 men will have 30-50 sexual partners in a year, but the 100 women still only gain one …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:03 AM
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This is a logical fallacy https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:58 AM
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You are constructing a false dichotomy where you either are a giga chad who easily gets casual sex or you get nothing. I never said other men get nothing. Other men can certainly date and get relationships. But dating casually is a different story. 80% of all sexual activity is within committed relationships and only 5% of people having more than 5 partners a year (5 partners total not 5 partners casually). https://datepsychology.com/how-many-sexual-partners-did-men-and-women-have-in-2021/ Any s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:36 AM
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Top percentile men have always had access to the top percentile of women. This has not changed with modern times. My argument is that the top percentile men now have access to casual sex with the vast majority of women. The internet and dating apps also connects a huge swath of people that would have never met in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:24 AM
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“Apps and swiping” have existed since the 1970s. Great Expectations was the first video dating service - it was started in 1976. The Iphone with the first app store launched in 2007. Personals ads in newspapers started well before that in the 1960s. I would assume that the amount of people able to purchase a personal ad in a newspaper that has a finite amount of pages is far far smaller in 1960 then the number of people with a smart phone that can download free apps in 2023.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:21 AM
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why are you spamming that response ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:18 AM
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Hes some .0001% My argument is literally that in western societies, modern dating culture benefits only the tip top percentile of men. Thus he is an example of the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:03 AM
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However, you are one of the rare few men that actually got a passport and left, instead of threating to leave like the equivalent of a bratty child screaming that they're ignoring someone while not actually ignoring them in the hopes that people will beg you to stay. That's actually commendable. Thank you! Yea i guess the difference is also I did not leave just because of women or dating, I have always had an admiration for Singapore and LKY (founding father of Singapore), and wanted to live and…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:01 AM
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Stats on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:50 AM
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The evidence is many women independently posting on social media about dating him after mimi shou exposed him https://nypost.com/2022/01/21/who-is-west-elm-caleb-and-why-do-people-care-about-him/ https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/039/364/west-elm-caleb.jpg There's lots of these on tiktok if you search for it. He dated / ghosted around 40-50 women from the looks of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:50 AM
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and you haven't even done much casual research into something, but you hold a very strong view of it anyway, and that this is fucking stupid. Views do not require any sort of research. An opinion isn't a fact. You seem to not be aware of this distinction for some reason. This isn't a research journal forum. but actually exists somewhere outside of the OP's lunatic thought patterns. I think you came here just to call me a lunatic rather than debate anything. Ad Hominem eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:34 AM
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I wouldn't call myself one of those guys. I have managed to date some hot women, but I haven't done anything close to what west elm caleb was able to do in NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:31 AM
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No, choosing you want to date would be something that begun perhaps in the 1960's or 1970's. Modern dating culture is about tinder, swiping, dating apps, metoo, and things that affect the digital / phone age.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:56 AM
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Your view seems to be based on your own surface level observations of things with about a billion unexamined biases affecting those observations. Like what ? Are you refuting the existence of modern dating culture? That apps and swiping doesn't exist ? so if that's all that is supporting your view, consider changing it substantially. You should provide an actual counterargument, not a word salad that doesn't actually mean anything specific. You could copy paste this on any CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:44 AM
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What does that have to do with modern dating and hookup culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:42 AM
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The few dates I’ve been on? It’s entitlement before we’ve even done anything. Huge turn off Thats western women with no respect for you. Try out dating in some Asian countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:17 PM
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Unfortunately VC collapsed during Covid. Wait why? the lockdowns / border closures?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:44 AM
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But the standard would be relative to the local conditions. I think you are a black man in Germany correct? I would venture to say there's likely a difference for black men dating in germany vs the usa
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 11:46 PM
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What proof is there they lower them ? men in asian countries for example are often 3 inches shorter on average than in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 11:45 PM
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There is no international average. it has to be country specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 11:27 PM
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She isn't a 5.5 in America. Do i need to repeat that the average woman is 170 pounds in America? This woman is fit and and cute. That's minimum a 7.5/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 11:26 PM
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not very beautiful she is very man. Very beautiful is a Victoria secret model. You aren't using statistical standards or you have delusional standards. The average woman in america is 170 pounds and most states have 30-40% obesity rates. She's fit and has a cute face. They are not looks matched. He has a very plain / dorky face. she's in the top 5% of women in the country for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:43 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pKeJeMLl6o here's more proof for you. A western woman admitting average men from usa are able to get gorgeous women in thailand
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:31 PM
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Even for being non obese she has a pretty face. like she's better than https://www.instagram.com/p/CxdQfoCoiBu/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:28 PM
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mediocre? she's fit, has a great face, pretty hair. Remember the average woman in America is 170 pounds. this woman is at least a 7.5 or 8 out of 10 on a statistical scale. This guy is unsurprisingly white, and he probably has money, etc. Being white doesn't mean jack in america where there's hundreds of millions of whites lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:24 PM
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Most men and women both continue to meet their partners through existing social circles Given most people move for college, grad school, and then again for work, there is no real "existing" social circle anymore. And it’s very clear that women, in particular, prefer real-life connections over online dating. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:20 PM
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The woman is not average at all, she's well above average in America (where she lives now). The average woman in the usa is 170 pounds. remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:56 PM
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It's not delusional at all, look at how many women college athletes get https://thetab.com/us/pennstate/2015/11/09/inside-look-getting-girls-big-10-athlete-1815
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:56 PM
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This sentence Personality matters more to women looking for love and relationship, then height, handsome face, and money combined. Directly contradicts The reason, height and handsome face seem more important now is because your mind is working from a dating app model image personality only exist after she starts chatting with you which she won’t do if you don’t pass the height, face and money standards that are dating app standards, If height and handsome face wasn't important people would just…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:27 PM
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Remants from colonialism so to speak. Oh yes, must be colonialism , not corruption , the cartels, and lack of economic freedom or opportunity. Mexicans are the hardest working group of people in America. Their work ethic just fits America very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:10 PM
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I never moved any goal post, you didn't read my OP. western women have the highest standards of attractiveness in the entire world. ^ this part.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:54 PM
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no idea on finances but doesn't appear to be rich based on the IG profile. He is tall relative to her. Vietnamese women are typically 5 feet or 4'11". So it's safe to assume he is not tall by american standards. He could be 5'9" or 5'8".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:53 PM
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https://helplama.com/bumble-revenue-usage-statistics/#:~:text=What%20is%20the%20gender%20ratio,females%20is%203%3A1%20approximately. There's millions of women using online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:41 PM
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You don't have proof her standards were higher or that he didn't meet them before though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:36 PM
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So? being white doesn't do jack for you in the USA with white women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:35 PM
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Well sure but you are arguing a hypothetical. So in the same light, if a woman from anywhere was hired as an assistant to the college basketball team, overtime she will develop a higher standard for height. But the world isn't like that. basketball isn't played outside the west really at the level the nba plays it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:35 PM
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Kelly Oubre lol german women love BBC i see. ill suggest to my black passport buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:32 PM
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Even in the west, women prefer men who are not "out of their league". online dating says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:31 PM
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Now, is he truly 'average' in Vietnam? Aren't Vietnamese women 'dating up' by being with him? Do you realize that many Asian women perceive white men as 'superior' to their own men? He isn't average in vietnam, but many people argue standards are the same every where. That if someone is average in the USA, they are average everywhere. Also the preference is light skin NOT race. For thousands of years the richest of asians stayed inside and away from the sun to preserve pale skin as a status symb…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:29 PM
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You are derailing the conversation. This has nothing to do with "coercion" or "obligation". Standards are ones own free will to choose whom is attractive and who isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:27 PM
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I'm a 5'11 guy who plays football i am referring to soccer though, since the heights of footballers (soccer) tend to be more reasonable than American athletes Height is just another factor that comes into play regarding a preference. Again, I don't think NBA players are the standard sought after by most women who like tall guys. It's not the standard per say but it's the standard of perfection. Like 6 feet is good, but it's not as good as whats blasted on tv all day. Like you aren't that special…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:25 PM
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Look at just about every sitcom and every straight couple you see out in the world. The woman is (almost) hotter. What does this have to do with American women ? Sitcoms are not real couples, they are casted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:04 PM
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Nothing, but Many people, especially young people, want actually to sexually explore with many different people,not just one. Unless you are a frat star or college athlete in the USA, or a white man in asia, there is no feasible way for men to have consistent sex with several or more women at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:48 PM
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How do you suppose Western women are viewed? In Asia western women are thought of as beautiful by Asian men due to hollywood movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:28 AM
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Similarly, I'm curious if women in other countries find Western males to be a certain way? Only guys with a certain level of income are able to do the international travel thing, so the world is only experiencing a certain subset of Western men. What is their reputation? I mean by size and GDP, the USA is the richest country in the entire world. A fair portion of people can afford international travel to some degree. Most women in Asia love western men because they are taller, handsome, and free…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:12 AM
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Just because a woman goes on vacation doesn't mean she's looking for vacation dick. The most common reason for solo woman travelers is dick. Jamaica and France are prime destinations for this
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 03:58 AM
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strictly monogamous and Muslim. Her husband didn’t mind at all She is not likely to be a real muslim or is only one spiritually as Islam forbids women from traveling without a male guardian from the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:30 AM
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I just gave u a link showing the top 10 causes of death for women. Homicide is not even listed as a top 10 cause of death for women. Also domestic violence is categorized as intimate partner violence which does not result in death. So it's not clear how you want to factor that as a cause of death? https://bjs.ojp.gov/female-murder-victims-and-victim-offender-relationship-2021 In 2021 only 5,000 women died of homicide, https://www.cdc.gov/heartdisease/women.htm meanwhile 310,000 women die of hear…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:27 AM
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Is not the same as a threat. Huh? A cause of death is a threat. Thats how public health works. The number one threat to a woman's life is heart disease. Not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:08 AM
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A woman's greatest threat is her long term partner. Nope, its not even in the top 10 causes of death for women: https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2017/all-races-origins/index.htm #1 cause of death in pregnancy? Murdered by a partner. That is correct, but the number of women who die during pregnancy is extremely extremely low, https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality/2021/maternal-mortality-rates-2021.htm , 32 out of 100,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:03 AM
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Uh, the person didn't say anything about a spouse, they said "person you are sleeping with".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:47 AM
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Group trips with friends it makes sense that your spouse isn't invited and you shouldn't be expected not to go. Hmmmm, I would say some trips with friends are ok, but in general most people have limited time for leisure travel. Like the number of friends trips shouldn't exceed spouse trips.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:38 AM
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Yes, just because you're married doesn't mean that you lose your individuality. Sometimes people get lost, and their identity becomes spouse of/ parent of. This can easily slip into a creeping malaise that is imperceptible until an event happens like: What does individuality mean in this context ? Marriage is a fusion of two individuals into one family unit. That's the point of marriage. The way you put emphasis of not being a "spouse of " someone is odd. ​ Friendly reminder, the person most lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:36 AM
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. It's not love to limit someone from doing things just because you're scared they might cheat on you at the first opportunity. One could also say its also not love to not share opportunities both people can enjoy. You only look at good reasons, not bad ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:33 AM
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My friends bf doesn’t like to travel Does your friend love to travel? or doesn't like to travel either ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:16 AM
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There is nothing normal about controlling your partner's travel destinations or social media posts. In a committed relationship, you should generally seek to travel together with your partner. Most people have limited time for leisure travel. So I don't see whats wrong with wanting that to be shared.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 12:57 AM
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Trolls are out i see
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 12:51 AM
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Meaning if you accept that he is able to pursue a high-paying career while having children and a household with the help of his wife, then you'd account that into his income How? The business he works at doesn't pay the wife. But she gets paid from the money she uses that he earns.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:47 PM
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Ok but what calculation is that the reverse of ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:15 PM
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The same argument is made for the reverse. Are you using husbands' income which accounts for all the help they get based specifically on their SAHWs, I'm confused, what is the reverse here? The husband's income is the sole income of the household. The wife does not generate income.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:08 PM
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You do understand that the average being average for the majority does not mean that a significant amount of people gray before then and it's not considered premature, right? Do you understand how averages work? It means most won't gray before then. It doesn't make it unnatural or premature if a 26 year old Asian has some gray hair. Yes i understand how averages work. You seem to be desperately back pedaling from the mainpoint here It means most won't gray before then. And again premature is a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:05 PM
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I've seen people tally up how much income a SAHM generates based on all her responsibilities and it is more than a lot of people's work income so in that case, they are valued at more than what some men do as work. Those studies are a logical fallacy at play because the SAHM gets the money the husband earns to. Where do you think clothes, jewelry, cars, house, and other things are bought from?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:57 PM
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Dude, when you are 30, you’re going to see what I mean. There is no logical debate to be had here. You can just tell. I am 31, have zero grey hair, don't use any hair dye, don't have a problem going out with women who are 24. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:49 PM
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Here's a completely gray 30 year old white woman. If you read your own link you can discover that it's totally natural and not even premature. https://youtu.be/D9K3dQ1gzss?feature=shared So giving you benefit of the doubt and assuming that isn't hair dye, you are confusing genetic outliers for average representations of a population. Premature greying being placed at 20 for Caucasians is meant to embody a medically adverse form of greying. It DOES NOT mean 21 is the average age for graying for c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:47 PM
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I would bang a 50 year old in a heart beat too. why ? would u fuck a 65 year old too ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:18 PM
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The mean net worth of a 33 year old is under 15k source please
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:14 PM
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Graying in the late 20's to early 30's is natural. Some are completely gray at 30. No, that is false, here is a study by a dermatology journal to prove otherwise: https://jcadonline.com/hair-aging-races-ethnicities-review/ Would love to see a source about some being "completely grey" at 30. By 35 66% of men will have experienced some degree of hair loss. Some degree of hair loss includes "some" degree of hair line receding or thinning. It does not mean totally bold. It's very strange that you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:11 PM
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You don't think a decade brings fine lines, gray hair, balding I've never seen a 30 year old man nor woman with grey hair. Neither have i seen a 30 year old man with wrinkles . There might be some receding hair line for some guys. Also "noticeably different" in the context of this post would be negative, which i don't believe so from early twenties to early thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:58 PM
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Did you not read the part about this being what google images serves up ? You realize I don't control the google algorithms correct? Here's another 30 year old guy https://photos2.spareroom.co.uk/images/flatshare/listings/large/77/33/77332906.jpg Sounds like you are triggering by this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:55 PM
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You are aware that people in middle school are not fully grown height wise nor puberty wise, but anyone past 20 is ? Like you just confirmed my idea that you are using mental images in your mind and not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:53 PM
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I am confused, are you a man or a woman ? how are you telling someones age? as other people mentioned, people often have "mental pictures" of ages that aren't based in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:35 PM
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If she takes care of herself (eats well, works out, no smoking/drugs, hasn’t had multiple kids) at most her face might have some tiny wrinkles. Besides that, we don’t look that different. I think this is true, but this is sort of a different argument. In most cases i don't see 30+ women going for men in their early twenties, nor do i see people saying there's no way a 30+ woman can hookup with a guy in their early 20's. She most certainly can if she wants to. But i see people promote the idea th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:34 PM
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I mean there’s going to be variations but generally someone a decade older than someone else will look older. Thats not true between 20-30 for men in a noticeable way, as explained above. the way we perceive age can be impacted by behavior, speech, style of dress, and the way someone carries themselves. Sure but those might be positive things for men, like being more mature
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:29 PM
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well more to the point a 30 year old isn't going to be targeted on site when talking with a 23 year old woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:06 PM
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I can tell a 32 year old msn is older than a 22 year old, which is good because I don’t want to waste my time on 22 year olds. Ok, but it seems unlikely you will be able to tell there's a 10 year difference, or that the 32 year old is in fact 32 and not 26 or 27
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:04 PM
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Right, so aesthetics also throw off age perception in the 20-35 range at least
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:03 PM
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The only women making money on OF are women who already had a platform. They were either famous already or Instagram famous and have thirsty fans who want to see them naked. This is false, and there are countless examples to prove otherwise: https://www.buzzfeed.com/sydrobinson1/onlyfans-creators-incomes Also most instagram influencers who get income from ads for products naturally won't do onlyfans because that would tarnish their potential for collabs and ads. A company selling water bottles m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:45 AM
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Only fans and dating apps, nothing much onlyfans has had a dramatic negative impact on dating and relationships. So many women got rich off only fans during covid, its spreading as a thing on social media. Men shouldn't pay for pixels to jack to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:37 AM
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For the vast majority of us, it has to be someone exclusively from the gender we’re attracted to. Which is proof that personality comes second to physical appearance for most people. This is the biggest strawman i have ever seen. But ill entertain you, there's actually something to prove that wrong: ladyboys in thailand
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:19 AM
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example of an unattractive and unmasculine man is just a guy with the exact average male height. But that begs the question what exactly is unattractive ? Some users here tell me anyone under 6'4" and isn't jacked is unattractive. Note: I don't think a man of average height is unattractive, i am just going off of opinions given here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 10:04 PM
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If you are referring to my example, the woman was assigned to study many video clips of this man for hours as part of her investigative work. Probably spending a bit of time on him allowed the spark to manifest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:48 AM
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You never hear a man talking like that. Men don’t expect to become physically attracted to a woman that they were not physically attracted to on the 1st date. But many women expect to become physically attracted to any average looking man after a number of good dates. So in my experience (not speaking for all men), a first date doesn't show a woman's attitude towards sex. So say a woman is registering as a 6/10 in my brain on the first date. As time goes on, she shows she is very passionate duri…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:33 PM
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I believe u mentioned before u mainly dated Asian women? Generally asian women aren't as spark oriented and are more tall / money / education / intelligence oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 08:31 PM
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is really, really attractive, most likely much more attractive So a bald black man who's 5'9" is "really really attractive" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 08:30 PM
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Men routinely go for chemistry and sexual desire/attraction over relationship compatibility and personality. Men have more conscious awareness of their chemistry than women do. Men can describe specific parts of a woman and compartmentalize her to the boobs, the butt, the lips, the hips. Women just say it's "him"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 08:26 PM
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I am a man and I have experienced the "spark" before. When I was younger I met this Moroccan woman and boom as soon as I saw her my dick got hard af and she was all I could think about. I said the spark for women is like an erection for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 08:20 PM
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This man is a fucking murderer and you are talking about his height and lack of hair 🤣. Not just a murderer but a decapitator . But this is not conventional male attractiveness, such as being a square jaw line, dark hair, tall, goes to the gym, etc. I think if you believe certain behaviors elicit attraction, u agree with my core point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:53 PM
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Simple, there is no spark for unattractive men Uh thats false. But again it depends what you define as attractive. I take people here mean conventionally attractive, such as square jaw, tall, dark hair. But things like tattoos in that case shouldn't make a difference, but they do,
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:51 PM
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How do you explain the spark with non or lesser attractive men though ? Also what metric are you using to define attractive ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:32 PM
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The USA has legalized prostitution in certain counties of Nevada. Thats a joke. Those brothels are women pushing 50 with a pot belly charging $500 an hr. The situation in Singapore is complicated. Hello chatgpt
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:22 AM
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Yes, you can. For example, I used to be a whiny, sour negative pessimist. People avoided me like the plague. Guess what happened when I stopped being a human black hole? So I'm not saying negativity is the answer, rather it is positivity that isn't toxic. Positivity: An obese person that gets on track to lose weight, documents their journey, and encourages other people to do the same. Toxic Positivity: An obese person that says its ok to be obese, obese people are gorgeous, doctors are discrimin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:58 AM
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So to clarify you are only comparing someone who has a bachelors vs high school diploma, and you are not comparing someone with a bachelors degree versus advanced degrees? If so, then I do agree that having a college degree is a good mark for a woman to weed out people who won't make good decisions or won't be careful with money. However, this argument is often made that a woman who has a phd in neuroscience and is a professor would bring "more to the table" in a relationship than a woman with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:54 AM
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No place is a hive mind, but at least in Singapore i have seen this perspective expressed much more than in the USA. (The USA doesn't really have legalized prostitution anyways)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:13 AM
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In Asian countries women generally let men see prostitutes or massage girls as long as they dont bring them home or go on dates with them. Sucks for the west!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 11:15 PM
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That’s her realizing she’s better off with her above average looksmatch. She’s not attempting to date up. Literally contradicting in one sentence and the other. Women need a man they feel is better than them. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 11:14 PM
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Men on the other hand are more likely to be honest and tell their friends "bro you need to lose weight, get some new clothes and stop playing WoW 24/7". Not that there aren't toxic men who also enjoy feeling superior to their less successful friends, but it's far rarer to hear this BS advice as a man. Yes, but thats conversation between men. The conversation between men and women has a lot of fake or hyper positivity I mentioned in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 11:11 PM
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do the girls there not specifically want a “sunny” guy? I would say they want ambitious guys who want more in life, a combo of sunny and serious. LKY modeled Singapore as a globalist and capitalist society that takes the best of both east and west. So that's reflected in the dating scene as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 09:22 PM
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If the body feels good eating candy then anyone who hasn't been educated on teeth rot, diabetes and ect will make their diet candy. True, thats a good argument. Definitely one element of excessive positivity is tunnel vision, people only look at immediate effects and not the long term. However, what I am more getting at would be that, there is almost no media space for women to talk about the negatives of being fat or obese. Like almost all the coverage of obese women in America is extremely pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 09:20 PM
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​ proof of ability to set goals and achieve them, you are confusing a career for a relationship. What one does in the work place or in university does not relate to learning the skills or having them in a relationship. For example, university doesn't teach women how to upgrade or keep up their appearance, that's something a woman just values as a person or learns from her culture (such as asian cultures emphasize). Also universities don't teach women to be nurturing and supportive. Conversation,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 09:15 PM
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It's called women gaslighting belittling men's problems in order to invalidate and ignore men's feelings and arguments. That's the definition of toxic positivity though. Women saying how men are all mighty and powerful is a form of denying them the space to be negative. In fact, men have almost no safe spaces to vent or be negative without woman's moderation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:47 PM
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What do you think education offers to a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:46 PM
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Being yourself doesn't mean "don't try to fix your flaws". It means don't shape your life,hobbies and beliefs just to please other people. How is that toxic? No it does refer to not fixing flaws. Yourself is everything about you. Also we have to balance between what we want for ourselves and what we want to show others. We don't live on deserted Islands. In your view. I think its more like "don't overfixate on romance,and actually build deep genuine relationships with many people aka friendship"…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:44 PM
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Humans aren't math equations. You cannot simply be positive or negative. Rather positivity and negativity manifest in an individual and determine their behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:41 PM
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Sort of. I am an expat working in Singapore from the USA. its kind of funny because incessant positivity is a pretty desirable trait in men in asia. i remember watching chinese dating shows, and nearly every woman wanted a “sunny” guy, That's like comparing night and day. While the USA is the epitome of positivity, China is the epitome of negativity in culture. Extreme censorship, anti-celebrity campaigns very harsh body standards, very conservative culture, etc. Singapore is like the healthy mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:20 PM
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Ok correct, that's to do with how people get life advice from "podcasts" and "influencers"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:15 PM
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Replacing romantic relationships with friends is like telling someone to replace their mom or dad who died with a friend. It's glamorizing positivity and not looking at the vast differences in relationships between friends and lovers, and it distracts from the reason someone doesn't have a romantic relationship. Just being yourself is akin to being a god. The idea one has no flaws is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:14 PM
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If it's being single and dumping every person for some small thing or if it's being content looking like how one looks and not bothering to self-improve, then I'm not going to fault them if they think that they are happy. But the problem is because of toxic positivity, that person you speak of can be doing these things just to conform to the positive culture and not really like how they look or really feel happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 05:20 PM
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Women are the reactive gender in terms of sexuality. They have varying degrees of openness toward different men. So women in a particular moment of flirting don't have an intention of taking it further, but they also don't have an intention not to take it further . It's like women wearing mini skirts saying it's for themselves and not other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:13 PM
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All I can say is very few women have an N-count of 1 past college age . So you are an exception .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 10:11 PM
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The doctor who treats only one patient is infinitely better at treating that patient, knowing exactly what they need, being a match for them, going into more depth with the patient. Your analogy proved the point so perfectly. No, but you are not that patient. You are a different patient. Imagine that the patient before loved anal sex so much, and you hate it. You want a man who has all kinds of sex with lots of people and knows how to adapt to a new patient
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:30 PM
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A man who has hooked up with 50 different women in a year will have had less sex than a man who had sex with his partner once or twice a week for a year. Is a doctor who treated 50 patients or a doctor who treats a single patient a better doctor?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:05 PM
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That's not the point. Women can easily be independent and not need men for mere survival. That hasn't been the case past the 1950's https://meded.ucsf.edu/events/women-physician-pioneers-1960s-their-lives-and-profession-over-half-century-archives-talk women in the 1960's were making pioneering advances in medicine for example. Which means that men have to come up with something different to offer than providing and commitment. That has to do with social media and vanity culture as well as sports…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:34 PM
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Holy moly , are you trying to somehow deny mathematical laws ? The mean is you add up all the numbers , and divide by the amount of numbers . So having an excess of obese people makes the average weight go up. This means scrawny is for sure above average using weight as an metric of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 04:23 PM
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Are you in America ? The average man there is overweight and 35% of men are obese . So just being skinny or dad bod is actually above average when you consider the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 04:20 PM
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Also men build confidence if they have a higher N count . Knowing you slept with abcdef etc women is a high in the male brain. These are just facts
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 04:16 PM
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Women prefer more experienced men. This concept women don’t like high body counts is silly . Women grow attached with good sex , and u need a high N-count to have good sex as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 04:14 PM
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Nowadays, women are better equipped to take care of their own security and they need men less and less to provide them with security This is contrary to the current state of needing two incomes to afford a home in many parts of the developed western world .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 04:13 PM
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The boomers aren’t more privileged than anyone else . Millennials are just spoon fed socialist propaganda and don’t work hard in school. Many boomers were hard workers .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 04:10 PM
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No he said the “good part” , it’s basically the argument everything else matters in a relationship before sex which is silly .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 04:00 PM
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You can’t have sex while single though ? Americans and there Puritan logics ….
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:23 AM
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So it correct to say you would be turned off if a guy like didn’t know how to find the clit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:17 AM
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Sure. Sorority girls are trashing Frat guys as we speak and trying to date dudes in their 30s. Post college is VERY different than during college. post college there's no frats or exclusive clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:08 AM
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Older dudes just need to accept the fact that chasing younger women is going to be seen as creepy and come to terms with being the dirty older man. Only in the USA. The rest of the world, more so South America and Asia, don't care, or promote it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:06 AM
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The divorce rate for age gap couples is sky high Source please
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:05 AM
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Kevin Hart would like a word with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 04:35 AM
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The gym is the key word here . Hollywood actresses aren’t sex symbols , while girls in the gym are
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 02:10 AM
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Both Rosie and Emma are very white looking women, to me whose into Asians or latinas , they don’t interest me much . But I think they have attractive facial features .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 02:09 AM
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Children are less fun than promised and more expensive than any cost I am willing to bear. And the cost isn’t always financial. well would you agree that its a selfish view point ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:59 PM
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women won’t care and would be fine teaching you how to be sexual. Nope. They expect attractive men to match that experience in the bedroom. When you get to bed and don't know what to do or hesitate they will get turned off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:39 AM
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It's not society. Women's libido works more off of being "activated" rather than being the activator. Thats why women say things like "I saw an attractive guy but had no sexual thoughts about him", but the same thing would be unheard of for a guy to say. Women get off on being the object of desire. It's an exist contradiction to what feminists market.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:18 AM
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Typically high volume of dates and high rejection (no further date or sex) indicates there's a performance/behavior problem on the date itself, OR you are misrepresenting something on your OLD profile . Few were hookups so that worked out , most dates (off hinge) were girls saying they’re looking for a “relationship” 95% of those dates rejected me How does it come to discussing relationship or them wanting it on the first date ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:16 AM
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Many of us have seen truly disastrous age gap situations and in general they're much more risky than same age ones, What is a "risk" here? if anything there is a negative correlation with increasing male age and frequency of sexual assault or rape. The distribution of the age of accused sexual offenders does not necessarily indicate their relative recidivism risk. Although there may be few sexual offenders over the age of 50, the older offenders may be more (or less) persistent than younger sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 08:30 AM
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Are you early 20's in college or out of college ? in college totally makes sense, a university is a very closed off social environment from outside people. But out of college, definitely seen age gaps start to show. Think women who are 22-24 dating successful startup founders age 31-35 or so. At least this was what i saw in the USA
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 08:23 AM
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So would it be fair to say women and men should be considered minors until 25 ? So women cannot have sex until 25 ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:58 AM
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Why would I be mad at them ? You are fighting a slippery slope here . Women do what their natural tendencies do , as do men. You just have to learn to play and maximize the dating game . Every guy can be an nba player , he just needs to be in the right country
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:43 AM
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extremely unhealthy views of relationships and sex. They are views of reality my friend. Now, is reality unhealthy ? Yes I would say. the USA is designed for women to worship 6'5" chads in frats. Thank god I moved away to a country that appreciates smart, hard working, white men. (Singapore)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:26 AM
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It's just part of a bigger trend of infantilising young adults and attempting to push childhood later. Sometimes all the way to the 30's! I've seen people in their late 20's use their age as an excuse for being irresponsible! It's connected to a wider move toward collectivism amongst Gen Z. They are all like "we can't find a job because we have it hard and the boomers had it easy!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:16 AM
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The power differential is so massive it will never be an equal relationship, and a man who wants that is not someone I would associate with. Heterosexual attraction is based off of power differentials. Why do you think women want taller and richer men? Women love power.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:14 AM
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Interesting. I've never seen someone accuse a guy in his early 20s of being a pedo for liking women 18 to slightly older than himself. I mean that's a bit of goal post move. Pedophilia is attraction to pre-pubescent children. The age of the person experiencing attraction to someone else is irrelevant. Also late 20's guys aren't pedophiles for dating 19 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:07 AM
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It's a new feminist tactic. I have seen worse, liking Asian women of any age makes a man a pedophile
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:03 AM
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I think it depends though if they don’t want a kid altogether or they don’t want to take care of someone else’s kid
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:40 AM
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Really ? What’s an example of something you consider like an 8 or 9 ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:39 AM
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D is fine. She ressembles a lot the women in my country, may be being a latino here makes the difference in that I can relate to her a lot you know. D is actually lebanese based on her bio https://www.instagram.com/homesbyleaz/ , but non-muslim middle eastern women are very similar culturally / personality to latinas , so i see what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 02:06 AM
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​ D is actually lebanese candian, and lebanon is technically west asia. Gotcha!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 02:03 AM
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It is! I thought she might be a good representation of LTR material or as a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 12:21 AM
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and has pictures of her in lingerie online so nope Why is that bad ? They are all to active on social media for me as well as to into themselves (pics and videos of nothing but themselves) Why is being into yourself bad ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:54 PM
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If you're talking about threshold for physical attractiveness, B is the only one I'd personally consider, but without knowing her I wouldn't offer a long term relationship. Would you have a different threshold for casual sex? Like if D offered you a hookup, would you go for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:31 PM
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what you think are 4 different women and had the gall to link their actual IG instead of maybe taking screenshots is hilarious sad Someones social media is literally a self expression of themselves . Not sure why you think so negatively of this ? They are all influencers. you have something against social media which is likely not directly related to women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:29 PM
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Korean fitness girl Singaporean to be correct hehe
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:28 PM
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we’d literally be projecting what we think their personalities are based on the photos we’re seeing and our own biases based on them. Thats what modern dating / first impressions is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:25 PM
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You don’t know how they think, what they believe in, what they like to do. Do you honestly believe you do or others would not judge woman C to woman B or A differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:23 PM
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So is any user of Instagram out for the question ? Does this count if it’s TikTok too ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:56 PM
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Looks are always the first criteria . That doesn’t mean they are the only ones
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:55 PM
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If you had to pick one to try to talk to , and see if you are interested, which one would you pick first?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:32 PM
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Looks are the first thing all people care about. You get to know people later after you judge them by looks. all people do this. This is not gender specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:30 PM
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If you had to pick one to consider dating, which one would you choose? Or are you saying you see Woman C and B for example eqaully?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:29 PM
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I think you are confusing the concept of numbers versus a range. If we take men who are 5'9" for example. We can say that keeping height static, we can say that between the weight of say, 150-170, this will constitute men who have an average mix of muscle and fat. They will look neither fat nor muscular nor skinny. When we go above that 170 threshold though, into a range of say, 170-190, the amount of men who are much more fat then muscular will greatly increase. And if u go to the obese range, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:28 PM
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I know what you mean, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:23 PM
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I mean, appearance tells you a lot about a person. and people don't exist in spite of their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:21 PM
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It’s also worth pointing out that the numbers where ‘overweight’ and ‘obese’ fall were decided somewhat arbitrarily by officials who were standardizing a system. They aren't arbitrary, they are related to medical studies. They don’t correlate to anything in particular beside a group’s gut feeling about how fat was too fat. This is statistics, not gut feeling. The more you weigh the more increasingly likely you are more fat and not as much muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:16 PM
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Many states, is it all. No. You’re thought process is still incorrect. Trying to argue obesity is some fringe outlier in the USA is delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:46 PM
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It’s not the norm. Your word choice says obese. Are Americans bigger, yes. Are the majority obese. No. And why nit pick women when men aren’t that far off either. Read the title again. overweight OR obese. Many states have 37-39% obesity rates, which is nearing the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:35 PM
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Does fit mean works out or does fit mean not fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:34 PM
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Its pretty likely for someone who is 5'4 and 165 lbs to just look thick. My SIL has those measurements and looks great. Thats not an unusual weight for that height. While the thick look is great, you need a genetic distribution of fat to have that look. While some do, many don't. Example: https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2022/10/060b0ca1-6332-42e0-9bc2-b87a322c8c85-1.jpg The woman on the left looks overweight or chubby, not thick. 'm 5'1 and no one even thought I was overweight…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 06:28 PM
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BMI is trash if you're active in the gym or work an active job. I'm 5'8, 165lbs. I'm just "overweight" according to BMI which is ridiculous. You are 25.1 , which is just barely overweight. So yea being active and working out has an effect But if you were 185 pounds, you would be 28.2 BMI, and the likely hood of someone at 5'8" being 185 pounds of muscle is less likely quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 06:19 PM
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30+ BMI means nothing to me. I care about the person, not how they rank in on a scale made by a dead math guy. Did you miss an /s here ? So you are fine with 200+ pound, 250+ pound women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:55 PM
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This question is asked so often. Why are people so interested in a population that is not the norm? In the USA it most certainly is the norm. the average woman's weight is 170 pounds there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:39 PM
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BMI is meaningless, especially for athletes/people with high muscle mass. It's definitely not meaningless. The likelihood a 5'4" woman whose 165 pounds is that because of muscle is very unlikely, unless you are dating very serious lifters only. For men it's more reasonable but even then its hard to fall in obese territory with muscle mass . Very few men who are 5'10" are 220 pounds of muscle
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:38 PM
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I disagree, partially. It's not that one person decides they are beautiful and that that, it's more where populations of people value themselves more or get promoted more, and those people as a collective group become more desirable based on population shares. Example, the average weight of a woman in the usa is 170 pounds, thus the average woman is overweight. Many states have 30%+ obesity rates. This means that for women, it's acceptable to be attractive while obese because of the massive popu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 06:43 PM
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Exactly. So its like in the USA, you have two choices, divorced 9-10 with kids from 3 different guys, or the average woman who is near obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:46 PM
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If my woman was that rude and crazy, I would see her just as a past time. She’s nothing more. But doesn't being rude and entitled make her seem masculine to you ? To me being so defiant is a manly behavior, not something women really do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:14 PM
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Does bad behavior and personality traits affect how I perceive someone on a purely physical level? No, But does not wanting to know them equal to canceling out their attraction ? Like, if you take this same woman and have her politely tip and thank the uber driver for his service, that wouldn't affect your view of her the same right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:07 PM
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But I hope you guys don’t think women who act like this do it when they are with the men they like They do though. People don't change their personality. See, USA is land of entitled women. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/onlyfans-model-accused-killing-boyfriend-called-racial-slur-cellphone-rcna55423 Onlyfans star calls boyfriend racial slurs before she killed him. this is usa
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:06 PM
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Attractive women put on a closed and hostile attitude to avoid being approached too much as well. Well said ​ Edit: None of that youtuber's content is real btw. While true, it happens everyday in a country like the USA. Two girls once killed an uber driver over not wanting to pay uber eats fees https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/teens-get-maximum-sentence-death-uber-eats-driver-n1273276
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:04 PM
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I mean very often people say passport bros are leaving the country because they cannot find women locally. But who wants women with default princess attitudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:00 PM
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People aren’t dying of malnutrition in thailand or Columbia LOL. The degree to which people are sheltered in this sub is hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:27 PM
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Passport bros are the men with upper mobility in society . Your view is flawed because of some personal bias . A woman going to a wealthy country is more likely to fall in love with Joe from the gas station then a guy that can have enough education to work remotely and make good money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:26 PM
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Your confusing two completely different topics. Men being criticized for their sex drive has nothing to do with promiscuity which is the amount of sex and with how many people one is having it with. Like a complete incel can be called out for being thirsty or appearing as such, while having no actual sex. Men most certainly are not criticized for having lots of sex. In fact it greatly sparks women's curiosity if they can be the chosen one or better than the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:51 AM
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whats a coombrain?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:27 AM
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If I get proven wrong good for me. only applies to strangers, if it's a guy I know I assume 1. This is interesting, and something I possibly noticed back during college. For you, what is the boundary between stranger vs someone you know ? Like does sharing one activity say a class or a regular meetup make him someone you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:17 AM
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It’s different because virginity is an experience based measurement . But I believe there’s two virginities , virginity for condom sex and another for bare back sex with come inside
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:55 AM
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Outside meaning they conversation doesn’t not occur in those places . Like it’s not a place known for being approached
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:25 AM
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Sorry , I meant that this conversation does NOT happen in a club , restaurant , or bar . Meaning it is not a place known to be approached in by default
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:23 AM
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Smartest take here . Where I live in Singapore, I get hundreds of tinder matches a week and have more women available to me then I can count . That’s not even considering the huge number of massage / brothels I can choose from as well. When sex becomes easy , your whole mind changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 08:14 PM
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N count should consider any action that involves genitalia with another person . It’s silly that people choose not to count oral based stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 08:13 PM
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This is actually a popular take outside of the west or in Asian countries . It’s actually ironic . On first dates where I live now I often get asked my own N-count by women ! But it may be due to the stereotype of foreigners having lots of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 08:09 PM
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I think men saying they don’t want high N count women are generally only talking about obese women. A guy would take a pornstar over a female executive / feminist activist any day
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 08:08 PM
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She told me she saw me more as a father of her kids than a sexual partner after we had kids. She could not get her head into any of the things I suggested/tried it out therapist siggested to spice things up cause I was "dad" Did she have any history of abuse as a child ? It's kind of weird she split the concept of fertility and sex,
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:51 AM
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My goal is not adequate sex, it's to blow her fucking mind. I'm going to use every tool I have to accomplish that and adjust the proportion of usage to the particular woman I think a lot of guys here don't get good sex takes effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:51 AM
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Look at DJ Khaled - he openly says that as a HVM, he doesn't need to perform cunnilingus, not even on his own wife. Lol i would not trust that type of man to say anything truthful about sex. Rappers are the ultimate liars. He's also overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:50 AM
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Because if you sleep with 100 guys, youre forcing your (someday) husband to compete with 99 other guys. And maybe hes not the best fuck. Nope, a girl could have N count of 5, but one of the 5 is a chad. The idea only promiscuous women sleep with chad is a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:48 AM
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I say this as someone who enthusiastically goes down on women; I'm well aware that if I was Chad, I wouldn't be expected to do so. Nope disagree there. You need oral/fingering to really have a woman dilate and be able to relax and take you better for hard fucking. Also just personal experiencing, switching between intense fucking and oral is a super turn on for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:28 PM
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I don't know what "overly pushed physical attraction" means... From what I have seen here, the idea is if a man is above a certain looks threshold, he doesn't have to do any work at all, a woman askes him out, takes him home, and just mounts him. Of course no verbatim, but thats the idea. he's gotta be funny, interesting, smart, curious, open minded, and make me feel safe So these are all things that aren't related to how he looks right ? Meaning if a good looking, handsome guy makes u feel unsa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:24 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2EdPWK26MY&t=18s do you really believe these two guys, bald, somewhat overweight, are not average? yet look at their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:08 AM
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There is no evidence that these social, charismatic, outgoing men with a vibrant social media presence aren't also able to do all of the same things in their home country Oh thats delusional. There's no advantage to being a white or american man if you are already in america. There's also no advantage to being 5'10 or 5'11 if the average height is already 5'10". There's no advantage to make $80k if the average is $70k .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:06 AM
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want is the validation that comes from sex more than the actual sex? Can you define validation in this context?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:07 PM
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should want to experience other things that have nothing to do with sex or romance for that matter. Saying “I will never be happy until have sex.” Is so fucking off putting to women. It’s puppy dog levels of pathetic desperation. This is a bit of double standard. Many women in my post today said they would be very unhappy without romance at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:06 PM
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Oh so are you waiting until marriage before sex? But I assumed you have kissed already ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:22 PM
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adult women aren't tickling or having pillowfights wtf Having pillowfights or tickling doesn't magically transform someone into a pre-pubescent child either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:18 PM
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Also, most women dont orgasm from penetrative sex and many men become lazy in that department over time if they arent from the start. Ok but this sounds like you haven't had the best luck with men anyways. Say if you met a guy you liked and he also loved going down on you and pleasuring you, aka really good at sex. Would you change your answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:04 PM
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but I wouldn't want to live without romantic love and non-sexual intimacy (be it with a man, woman or other). If that is also excluded in your question then no, it would not replace that What do you mean by non sexual intimacy ? Are you bisexual ? This question involves anything that would be not appropriate to do with a friend, so for most people, that would be cuddling or kissing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:02 PM
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But so is your answer that friendships CANNOT replace sex for you? Since you mention about sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:01 PM
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They actively keep men sex obsessed so that they’re easy to exploit. What do you define as sex obsessed vs simply wanting sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:58 PM
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Guys are still depressed even when they get all the sex they want. They don’t know why they want it. They try to get validation from it but it never truly fulfills them lol But depression is unrelated to sex. Or rather, its not related to the question if friendship can replace sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:58 PM
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I am currently in a relationship that doesn’t involve sex. It can work, and it doesn’t make our feelings invalid Do you mean a friendship ? Are you heterosexual ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:57 PM
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I mean women who have platonic male friends still have boyfreinds, fwbs, hookups, etc. The question is if those platonic friends can replace the boyfriends, fwbs, hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:56 PM
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aren’t really just talking about sex, they’re talking about all aspects of a relationship. Can you give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:02 PM
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Its the converse side of a woman saying men don't need sex, they are just lonely. The question is for women if they can replace sex with friendships and social life or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:51 PM
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Will the quality of a person’s life deteriorate into nothingness Thats an extreme though. What I am more asking is say if a sandwich or pasta can replace donuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:47 PM
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This isn't a CMV, please read my post. You didn't answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:39 PM
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Now, would that replace the intimacy you share with another person, the hugs, kisses, and cuddling afterward? But are you saying here that you could be in a relationship that didn't involve sex but just involved cuddling and kisses ? or are you saying that this is the part that you crave more than sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:38 PM
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Sex and a relationship are two entirely different stories. I was in agreement, like, yeah I could do that no problem until it got to the part where there would just be no romance at all. That's where I'd say no. Could I do it? Yeah. Would I prefer it? No. I like me some romance. Can you define romance in a meaningful way that doesn't involve sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:36 PM
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romantic touch When you say romantic touch, are you referring to kissing / cuddling ? Or like oral / foreplay?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:35 PM
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STEM is different because it’s a more non people or non social oriented type of work . So it’s in general harder for women to thrive in the stem fields that aren’t people oriented . This is also why there’s been of an improvement in the number of female doctors as opposed to software engineers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:15 PM
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While OP is using the term casual sex , I believe OP is just using that in place of “sex”. So she is saying is most men are lonely because they want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:02 PM
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But loneliness is often defined by people here as a platonic or emotional condition . They aren’t the same because one isn’t a subset of the other. You can feel lonely in a bad relationship for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:57 PM
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Your statement is false because OP doesn’t state they are attracted to pre-pubescent features or actual children . I swear , Americans with their pedophilia obsession….
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:52 PM
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Cheating ain’t based on attraction. It’s based on insecurity within the cheater. Cheating is purely a selfish and often cowardly act. These two sentences contradict one another. Attraction to another person you aren’t dating is an inherently selfish act.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:48 PM
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This can be disproven mathematically by all dating apps having much more men than women. Having more options as a woman means you have different options than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:47 PM
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You are looking at this from a male point of view . This leads to incorrect conclusions . Men only marry women who turn them on aka women who touch their penis and have sex with them. This is the basic first element for men. Women don’t marry for sex . They hook up for sex , for sure . They date casually for sex yes. But marriage is a securing of support and resources from a man. So in a woman’s mind , she can convince or believe she should marry or be turned on by a guy because he checks off th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:24 PM
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and you still have that hairy, fat guy I don't think BB happens with a man a woman is disgusted by. But rather, a guy that she thinks is "good" to like. Imagine the brilliant doctor or engineer who has the right stuff on paper, but ultimately is dull or meek or doesn't turn her on sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:40 AM
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South Korea is a modern, feminist, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-olympics-2020-arc-idCAKBN2F00WY Yea so feminist they bully their olympians about hair styles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:06 AM
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Do you understand there's relative attraction ? A 6 foot guy in the USA is not that remarkable, where as a 6 foot guy in japan or vietnam is like an nba player?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:03 AM
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he's right. korean boys are top commodity i If we are talking about the connection to kpop and kdramas, absolutely. But that's also not even exclusive to asia, women in the west are also growing more attracted to korean men. And the west and korea are growing closer. But what the user I responded to claimed is that, women in japan would intentionally prefer korean or chinese men and not japanese or western men, which there's no real evidence of.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:02 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY9apb8PsOo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:44 PM
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How does someone whose physically attractive meet other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:41 PM
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but if you are below average in even one trait is enough to make you mediocre in other locations too. How below average are we talking ? Completely broke as an adult ? or 10-12% below the average income in your area ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:20 PM
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what does physically attractive mean in this context ? Does it mean a man can just sit at home and women will knock on the door and ask to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:18 PM
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Maybe let me rephrase , if you are at your moms house , how do women find you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 10:58 PM
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Good points but I feel what determines social status is location for a good part . Example : I don’t like drugs so that makes places like SF or NYC very hard to build social status . But in places less drug friendly , I do way better
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 10:20 PM
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6 foot isn’t average but it’s only 2-3 inches above the average height in the USA . Being 6’1” myself , when I lived in the USA never felt I got any special attention for my height unless the woman was like in the 5’2” or 5’1” range.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 10:18 PM
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There’s zero proof of that . Chinese men are so heavily discriminated against in Japan lol. You are just making stuff up here .
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 10:15 PM
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Do you have a source they prefer Chinese or Korean ? Highly doubt that since both Korean and Chinese hate Japan for what imperial Japan did. The CCP also heavily promotes anti Japan protests in china
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 10:02 PM
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I mean , isn’t the fact you are at your moms house the problem ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 10:01 PM
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because being white is associated with being rich handsome and powerful Passport bros is actually a title used mostly by black men on youtube.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:02 PM
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Me and most men were far more successful dating when in university/college vs as a professional Broke is generally relative. Most people are broke in college, except in top schools where your family / background sets you aapart.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:01 PM
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Where are these millions of young men passport broing? These destinations are tourist hot spots. Bangkok is the most visited city in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:59 PM
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So unless you are an average man, the idea of traveling to a place to change your market value doesn't even apply. Most men are average or near average, above it or below it. Some are above and below average more significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:58 PM
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But the thing is you get hundreds of average matches in Singapore. If you were truly 5% you'd get 100s of top tier matches in Singapore AND in your own home country. There's nothing that prevents average women from swiping on you so this is some self fulfilling prophecy / fallacy you got there. Also attraction as long as a woman is a healthy weight is subjective, https://sg.style.yahoo.com/blogs/singapore-showbiz/beauty-pageant-singapore-picks-ladies-cause-124527630.html these ladies would all b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:57 PM
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Could the blue collar scene be a better chance compared to large coastal cities? It's possible since blue collar seems to have a more traditional sense of masculinity and femininity than coastal city cultures do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:42 PM
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but Japanese people are extremely closted and don't really have much interest in dating foreigners, Where do you get this idea ? Women are so desperate for men in japan it's got to the point foreign men can be prostitutes in japan for women! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NWFAMIk2BI
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:16 PM
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Short, balding, broke... All of these are below average traits. The average man isn't short, (by definition) isn't bald, and isn't broke. Also for what it's worth there's a fair amount of bald men that have beautiful wives in Thailand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:12 PM
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and believe me if you aren't in the top 5% here you won't be anywhere you go. There's people with money and connections everywhere. Thats a self contradictory statement. If you go to a place where you are 5-6 inches taller than the average man or close to 10-12 inches taller than the average woman, you do become the top 5%. I get hundreds of matches a week here in Singapore now. What you don't understand is there is two levels of dating. There is dating based off what you might call equal opport…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:10 PM
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No, changing location brings quite a supply of women if you change to the right location.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:53 PM
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Right so passport bros lose the competition to people in their own country their own community while having mostly equal opportunities. Equal opportunities ? LOL. That's funny. You think men have equal opportunities to college athletes who train since they are like 8 years old ? Or frat bros who have their dads or grandads in the same frat ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:52 PM
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Please, speak for the US only. Western countries are safe as fuck. uh, many cities in Europe have crime rates at or higher than the USA https://www.statista.com/statistics/380963/london-crime-rate/ My point was: what do the women get out of that if they can't even leave their country for higher standards of living. They get a higher standard of living in that country. You can get luxury condos / houses for way cheap. Also not to mention western men are taller and richer in general than local men…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:49 PM
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Is a 7/11 having a security camera racist ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:27 PM
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Plenty of women have their own money in SE Asia too. You realize cost of living isn’t the same everywhere right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:11 PM
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Genetics doesn’t determine value. Perhaps the most successful man in terms of passing on his genes was genghis khan , who possibly impregnated millions of women by pillaging and conquering so many villages . My point is that who reproduces is a proven result not a predicted result . Similar to why a woman might be impreganated by a drug dealer but a brilliant software engineer could be a virgin .
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:09 PM
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Exactly . The game doesn’t change , the playing field does.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:05 PM
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Do you not realize Asian countries are safer , more cost efficient , and have more convenient urban layouts than most western countries ? No drugs , no guns , no break ins , etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:04 PM
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Dating is a competition . Always has been , and is a zero sum game.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:02 PM
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In this case it’s not so much what relationship celebrities have ; but rather the media influence of older but not younger men having a media spot light
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:43 PM
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Zuckerberg met his wife at Harvard as an undergrad, before he made money. They tied the knot one day after facebook went IPO , https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-and-priscilla-chans-12-year-relationship-in-photos-2015-7 Similar with Elon, they married after he founded paypal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:37 PM
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A work hours and family isn’t a bar lol. If you don’t meet physical standards anywhere you don’t get your foot in the door . I will gladly wash the feet and take care of old people if I can rid the place I live in of drugs and crime lol. If you are being serious , it’s hard to tell here since there’s so many incels that post here . But overall, yea I am aware of what you are saying but I have a specific dislike of parts of western culture that outweighs anything else .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:17 PM
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Also, IQ is positively correlated with attractiveness, raw attractiveness Source please .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:13 PM
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Kpop stars are just a cute face . That’s not far from the average guy in the USA . They also are not that tall . Again height in Asia is waaaaay less than the west. The west is very tall. Some Europe countries are close to a 6 foot average. The average in China for men is 5’6” I think. Sea is much shorter . Average Filipino man is 5’2”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:12 PM
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Have never seen that be the case . Look at Ellen Pao or Elizabeth Holmes . It might be the case in certain industries like nursing or HR, but it’s not a golden rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:10 PM
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No that’s not correct . The average weight for women in Asian countries is 119 pounds .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:09 PM
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Where I was, looks and social status matter just as much as say NYC NYC is full of drug dealers and body builders. Also USA has ridiculous, super human standards for men. Look at the NFL and NBA. I doubt you lived in Asia if you believe any of these places is remotely similar to NYC. It's like two different worlds for me between singapore and NYC. Also on average women are super kind and courteous here. in America they are rude as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 05:15 PM
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Many East Asian women are also obsessed with looks, social status, and choosing the "spinster/leftover woman" life over relationships with average men. Yea but women in the west want body builders and drug dealers. East Asian standards are a lot more reasonable. Look at kpop or jpop or east asian male celebrities vs nba and nfl players
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 05:13 PM
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Look at birth rates in the east. Birth rates have NOTHING to do with relationships and attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:33 PM
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Not sure what single has to do with it ? But i mean sales / marketing / finance / HR in the same companies, the female engineers did not put effort into appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:12 PM
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"DeCliNiNg BiRtHrAtE" panic posts anymore too? We need birthrate , i don't understand. Cumming inside women is heaven on earth
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:34 AM
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uhhh men want physically attractive partners no matter what the financial situation is for either party. What I am saying goes like this: The guy earning $50k wants a hot woman, but will probably be ok with an overweight / plain jane woman. The guy earning $80k wants a hot woman, and probably will be less fine with an overweight woman. The guy earning $200k will want a hot woman and want go lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:24 AM
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Kardashian isn’t a model and has never been a model. She’s far too short and cosmetically altered. Uh, someone who has appeared on the cover of sports illustrated, vogue, and a bunch of other magazines is a model. Like thats the definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:06 AM
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Their income makes them more attractive or in demand at least. But a woman going up in income just limits her pool of suitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:42 AM
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higher earning women are more attractive than lower earning women due to having more money to spend on things like nice clothes, healthy foods, gym memberships, facials, cosmetics, hair treatments, Botox, etc. I think that’s more industry and location dependent more than income dependent . I never knew one female software engineer that did anything cosmetic wise beyond some skin care stuff from Walgreens . But many women in sales / marketing / finance / HR who earned a fair bit less than the eng…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:07 AM
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No, if a city (which many in the USA do) have a 40% obesity rate , that means 4/10 women are obese . Probably 7/10 are overweight or obese. So no one will have an easy time finding fit and attractive women in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:00 AM
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Those super models or actresses are looking for equally rich actors or models . In fact , you cite a perfect example to prove my point. Kim kardashian, considered one of the top models in the world , has been married 3 times and single today. So many celebrities quickly marry and divorce . The only long term marriage I am aware of is Tom hanks and his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:58 AM
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That's true. (Even though it obviously doesn't work that way at all) But you realize the exact same statement would be true of a man right? Virtually every man would select the woman who's making more money as well. No this is patently false. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/20/study-men-get-more-stressed-when-their-wives-make-more-money.html tons of studies showing they dont like high earning women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:23 PM
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But yes, new money What you defining as new vs old here? Fred Trump (father of trump) was worth $300 million at the time of his death, and was born in 1905. That's old money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:20 PM
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5’9” and up but this is really not important to me as I’m 5’4” Woah, you are a man that short who wants a much taller woman ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:29 PM
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Black or borwn Brown (preference for asians or latinas overall) Doesn't matter, advantages to both tall and short. Wider hips / bigger thighs less than Any thing is ok except for business executives or entrepreneurs. Doesn't matter Doesn't matter as it's not verifiable , but ideally less than 100. Cannot be religious of any kind, preferably buddhist though Hetero Doesn't matter too much, the women i prefer tend to age very slowly Cannot be a tankie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:28 PM
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All I am saying is the USA has some fat ladies, and the rest of the world doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:19 PM
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I don't have a problem with it. I already checked out of the west , just as many men with good earning potential are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:18 PM
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I'm talking about a ''whole package'' kind of deal with the childlike appearance thing, not just one particular aspect of it. Oh ok, then yes that would be the true indicator of pedophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:01 PM
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Marriages often fall apart after a wife's income surpasses the husband's, because the wife now believes she deserves a "better" man. Well I would say its that it removes the leverage the husband's income used to have . Typically, even in dual income marriages, if the husband out earns his wife, that creates a sense of respect and admiration. But if the wife out earns him, he has to compensate in other ways. Out here in Singapore, the only couples I have seen where the woman out earns the man is …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:00 PM
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Flat chest, super small or no ass, very narrow hips, they might be in their early 20s but they can easily pass for someone still in high school Most child like features are actually facial. For example https://previews.123rf.com/images/veranikasmirnaya/veranikasmirnaya1608/veranikasmirnaya160800220/64469815-portrait-of-a-blond-teenage-girl-with-baby-face-standing-in-front-of-green-park.jpg and https://c8.alamy.com/comp/KNBN8K/lifestyle-portrait-of-a-college-age-model-in-a-white-dress-on-a-univer…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:54 PM
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The age gap is pedophilia, the height gap is pedophilia, next you're going to tell me men dating less mature, less rich women is pedophilia. I have also seen men preferring thin women is pedophilia too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:48 PM
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Something to keep in mind is pedophilia is one of the most frequently misused and misplaced terms in modern times. Pedophilia is the attraction to pre-pubescent features. This woman, has zero child like or pre-pubescent features. Also keep in mind tiktok is monitored by the Chinese government , and will tweak their algorithm for things that annoy or cause havoc in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:47 PM
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If anything wealth is the most intrinsic of them all. Once you reach a critical point of wealth you can leave it in an index fund and capital gains will guarantee that you stay wealthy. Not just that, CDs, property investments, bonds, etc. There's a lot of passive elements of wealth building people forget about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:41 PM
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fertility rate != sex rate. I'm having 6-7x the amount of sex I had in the USA thanks to women being obsessed with both jewish and white men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:19 PM
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I agree with you women don’t mind being single . But that’s why passport bros is bigger than passport sisters
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:27 PM
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Women don't generally care about how much a man makes necessarily, that is as long as he can support himself and potentially her. That's a contradictory statement. You cannot not care about someones income and say, ok they need to be able to support their half and also maybe mine too. Your saying they desire equal to or possibly more than the woman's income, which is what I am saying too. Women aren't wetting their panties to marry Sam Smith or that old town road guy, but they will for someone l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:13 PM
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That data does not support the claims you make in your OP. It absolutely does because if women are staying single due to only wanting higher earning men, the number of single men will be more than single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:09 PM
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Nope. Men on average, have always, and will always make more money than women. That's because men overwhelmingly work- more important, more difficult, more risky, and longer hour jobs. This is a function of biology for very obvious reasons. It's not going to change. You are looking at this from across all professions, meaning you are comparing executives, i bankers, engineers, nurses, etc. This is the same flaw feminists create with the wage gap argument. You have to look within professions to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:07 PM
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I like attractive fit women so I only dated attractive fit women. It is quite simple really. So is it easier or harder to date attractive fit women when thats 28% of the population versus 92% of the population?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:47 PM
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No interest at all in a higher earning man. But what about at least equal ? Like are you ok / fine if he makes less than you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:46 PM
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Sounds like it evens out so how is it a problem? Well what will happen to the women back home? I didn't say it was a problem, just my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:45 PM
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Hmmm. I would guess you're poor from the premise of your statement. Rich men normally want high status women, not young, slim etc. Poor men want youth indicators to bolster their status though. When I lived in the USA I made upwards of $350k as a software engineer, now in Singapore, I make slightly less, but its a high salary for where I am. Your statement is false because you are forgetting what I mentioned, women want equal to OR greater than. Men want a more attractive woman as their income g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:44 PM
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"overweight women have unreasonable standards." If you are interested in dating said women why do you care that their standards are unreasonable. It's very bizarre. Well for men who live in the USA the average woman is over weight medically. The average weight is 170 pounds, which is well into over weight territory. The USA is the heaviest and fattest nation in the world. Also if a man is interested in overweight women, its often the case overweight women want healthy weight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:36 PM
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I mean what part of the data seems not accurate to you? You can look at multiple sources citing that the trend of single women is increasing over time, it's now about 33% in the USA https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2021/10/05/rising-share-of-u-s-adults-are-living-without-a-spouse-or-partner/ . That's the pew research center.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:34 PM
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In general, having a job is a plus. You bring more income to the table, and have more to converse about in a relationship. However, I would avoid women with the following jobs: CEO of any kind Surgeons of any kind In general, these women are typically very masculine and not feminine in their personality. Note: Prediction is a few comment replies to this will call me a loser because of the above opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 04:20 PM
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A man within a relationship already wouldn’t be considered physically unattractive in that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:57 AM
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But his logic would still apply . A man not placing needs of his woman sexually before emotional needs is bad . Not in the mood ? Go chow down on her pussy then .
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:55 AM
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Protection and financial support for her and her children This works well in cultures that value it, but it's very hard in left wing areas like SF or NYC. Many women believe it's degrading to have a man take care of you lol. Or that it's not feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 04:56 AM
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For what it's worth, 22 is kind of the real adult age. It's when you finish college for most folks or potentially start grad school. You can drink legally, and do really whatever u want. You might have grown further enough from your parents you feel independent. 19 is still really a teenager. Your after the thrills of partying / drinking you can't do without sneaking stuff or getting help from others. That's the 1/2 year of college as well. So in terms of the USA, 22 will be judged differently t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 04:05 AM
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You do realize the average weight for a woman in the USA is 170 pounds right ? If a man wants someone max 130 pounds , maybe 140 , that eliminates a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 01:24 AM
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I also find the claim they care less about how much a man makes or how much money a man has a little questionable. My FIL is a passport bro, women wouldn’t talk to him or get married to him if he was broke for sure. You have to remember though its a rich to poorer country situation. What an SEA woman thinks is a lot of money is far far less than what an American woman thinks is a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:44 PM
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In what way? They enjoy being feminine. dressing feminine, making meals, etc. And they are of course on average much less obese than women in the USA
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:42 PM
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The idea that SEA and SEA are a delicacy. They are sweet, kind , feminine , and like to cook and clean. Don't know what you are on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:41 PM
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Look at the sex worker subs on Reddit , those aren’t OF girls. No one would ever do it if it’s pennies on the dollar . This some wild trope made up by the far right
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:20 PM
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But one thing you might not be aware of is very wealthy Chinese women going to foreign sperm banks and having children on their own. Eileen Gu and her mother are an example of this. But China does not allow unmarried women to access sperm banks. Despite the demand being there .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:14 PM
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There is some discussion on wechat that requiring marriage for access to property sales or cars might become a thing. Just rumors at this point though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:39 PM
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You have to remember though China has tons of prostitution. It’s not like the USA where it’s far more inaccessible
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:37 PM
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Something to keep in mind though are the following : China is incredibly patriarchal.high rates of domestic violence. They only recently recognized spousal rape. Most of a man’s eligibility for marriage depends on owning a house and a car , despite what the wife earns
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:35 PM
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As someone who knows many Chinese and travels to China twice per year for business , you have to keep in mind China is in a rare situation where it’s extremely patriarchal but also more educated and modernized . When I say patriarchal I mean a man can beat his wife on the street and no one does anything . Beat as in make her bleed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:32 PM
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Dude, I’m a scientist with medical and legal degrees. I don’t do opinion pieces. I’m not invisible. At 50 I still get plenty of attention from thirsty lads, Scientists don't have medical degrees. Unless you are somehow an MD PHD JD whose also a fit super model, something isn't adding up here. I am selling FDS mythology.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:21 AM
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https://pcar.org/blog/invisible-woman-syndrome-can-make-aging-hard ok, one from a feminist organization, happy ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:45 AM
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Youngest I'd go is 40 and a lot of those are even not mature enough. Are you defining maturity psychologically or physically ? If it's psychologically, do you define maturity as focused on being successful / intellectual stuff and not parties / drinking ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:43 AM
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You need to figure out the number of Americans that are out getting sexually involved with new partners. This is a smaller pool, so the risk is higher. This is somewhat of a false assumption. There's a historic rise of std's in older americans: https://www.boomershub.com/blog/top-6-reasons-why-std-rates-are-rising-in-nursing-homes people who are in monogamous relationships, etc. This wouldn't be a reliable statistic. People have flings or one time things while in relationships all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:04 AM
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But just wait when you’re in your late 30s/early 40s..you’ll still have to deal with the same hypergamous nature from your own demographic. It never, ever, ever ends with women You fight fire with fire. Too much hypergamy ? get the passport and get on a plane.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:05 AM
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How is having an FWB not attention and desire ? Like how is. 40’s woman going to get that attention and desire otherwise ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 01:07 AM
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I find it strange that most women don't feel attracted to a handsome 20-something-year-old man solely because of how youthful he looks, despite his beauty being at its peak. I think a possible reason for this is the most powerful men in the world , be it corporate or governmental , are all very old or leaning old. Putin , US presidents , Jeff Bezos , Elon Musk , etc. Most Hollywood actors don’t really become famous until late 20’s at a minimum and way more commonly mid 30’s I think there’s just …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:31 AM
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Lol , it even has its own syndrome , invisible woman syndrome . https://www.dailynews.com/2022/07/24/how-older-women-can-combat-feeling-invisible-or-unseen-in-social-situations/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:24 AM
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Lol it’s not validating to hook up with any man ? Literally the entirety of female validation is based on attention from men. There’s entire mega industries revolving around women improving their appearance . If women were not after validation there would be no reason for older women to compare about age gap relationships lol. This is FDS logic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:59 PM
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There seems to be a weird issue in this sub where anyone who isn’t hot is then automatically an incel , or incels see themselves as average . Very weird
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:56 PM
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Do you not see that the study samples 1,969 people from only Colorado Springs , between 50 and 20 years ago? It’s the exact same logical problem as using Maui as a sampling for how likely people are to die in a fire . Your focusing on a single tiny place , not a large representative sample. This is also why it’s pointless to argue with anti sex work people . They view tiny studies in very specific areas as gospel and refuse to hear any criticism on those studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:53 PM
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How intellectually dishonest are you with that kind of deceptive cherry-picking? None of those other studies stated their sample size, which is what cherry picking is. The subworkers sub here on reddit has over 200k members. So 100 deaths over multiple years can be an extremely low rate of death if the sampling is large. It would be no different than saying "fires kill the most people of any cause" but you only sampled people in Maui, Hawaii.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:57 PM
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so according to the data https://www.cdc.gov/std/statistics/2021/default.htm Chlamydia has about 1.5 million cases per year. USA population is 330 miillion. So chance of encountering someone with chlamydia is less than 0.5%. Gonorrhea is around 650k cases per year, 0.19%. So again, very very unlikely you will encounter anyone with an std. testing further helps protect you. But there's no reason to use condoms all the time. It's paranoia. The USA is more worried about stds than cancer screenings …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:54 PM
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The smallest study was from Burkina Faso and reported 4 deaths out of 47 FSW (one due to TB, one due to wasting disease, and two from unknown causes). So your study is saying that 47 people in a third world country with many recent coups had 4 people die amongst them, from diseases that are a epidemic in that country. So the sex workers are just as bad as off as other people in that country.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:41 PM
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It's exploitation, pure and simple. It's not exploitation. Sex workers make far more than the average wage worker. There's a reason they do it. And it's especially galling when progressives are super skeptical about modern employment but do a 180 when the job involves sex. I have seen the opposite far far more .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:36 PM
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Did you forget STDs? The risk of STDs for heterosexual sex is greatly over-exaggerated by LGBT activists. They were upset the aids crisis effected only gay men. Almost all STD is treatable, and you can always test first with a new partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:33 PM
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Attractive women post-40 don’t really drop their standards, it’s more like they don’t have to be talked into something they already want to do if that makes sense. Makes sense, I would say though that they are far less social media (instagram / tiktok) oriented , so their standards seem more straight forward and less based on clout or popularity. Like in the USA at a little over 6 feet, I have only been called tall by older women , never women my age. Or women in the usa my age almost never are …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:26 PM
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Women typically don't prefer younger partners, it's one of the reasons why the teen to early 20's bracket is so fucking brutal for men. Thats absolutely correct, but that's because in those years women have every club, party, concert, available to them full of guys who want them. It's validation levels on overload. Pair that with extensive use of instagram and tiktok these days, its a non stop stream. A lot of that validation leads them to seek guys who are a little past that stage and have high…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:20 PM
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42 year old Karen can get a hot 35 year old guy every second Tuesday. Where is she going to find the hot 35 year old who isn't married, doesn't have kids ? I thought men are less attractive at 35 then 25?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:43 PM
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Older women still have standards like younger one, so if you are short and/or ugly, you will still get none, But short or ugly isn't average. The average / median height is 5'9"-5'10" in the USA. So if you are below that, you are not average, but below average. aren't you afraid of catching something from the bareback sex? Nope. The pleasure far outweighs the risks. But you can still do testing which lowers risks even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:39 PM
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Absolutely, I've been inclusive of older ladies for a while. I shoot my shot in classes sometimes, sure. So what happens here, do you go on dates ? Do you have sex sometimes ? OR are you a virgin ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:36 PM
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Generally an around 40 woman can't get a top tier younger guy due to competition from hot younger women, or just not being into the party / club space. Also this seems to be a recurring theme here. what is a sexless man ? Is that different from the average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:34 PM
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Wouldn't that make older men wanting younger women hypergamous? If you are talking dedcades age gaps (40's vs 20's) then yes it is. Basically hypergamy occurs when you defy are natural barrier toward attraction. The same applies for an obese person desiring a skinny person, a poor person desiring a wealthy person, etc. But I personally do not think hypergamy applies to genetic qualities like height.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:32 PM
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I mean they can use birth control . Some things have too much pleasure that outweighs the risk
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:27 PM
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In most cases a younger average guy will have better dick than an older , heavier man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:20 PM
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How tall is tall ? Are you going on dating apps and swiping with your filter set up to 50 ? Are you approaching milfs or cougars at fitness classes ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:19 PM
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Do you not believe that it's a validation when an older woman feels desired by younger men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:04 PM
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participating in kink events/clubs/chats. Hmmm, I have never been to anything like this. All the women I met your age was at a fitness class, the gym, whole foods, or a farmers market, and a few on the dating apps. Never any sort of alcohol venue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:03 PM
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late 30's early 40's isn't really cougar . But in areas like SF and NYC, it was at least for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:00 PM
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Specifically here though, we're talking about the class of men who are in the dating/sexual market and are not getting any hits. Again, you are referring to incels here. The average man does get matches for overweight , plain looking women, maybe slightly cute women. If you are getting 0 matches indefinitely or 0 hits anywhere, you are either shooting way too high or you are far below average. If guys are struggling to get attention from women at all, targeting women with slightly lower smv is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:59 PM
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People are switching up the narrative all over again it seems. Incel is now just a generic male insult now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:51 PM
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https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/ss/slideshow-sex-drive-changes-age#:~:text=This%20time%20of%20life%20may,it%20sooner%20in%20a%20relationship. This time of life may be when your sex drive is strongest. One study showed that women between 27 and 45 had more frequent and more intense sexual fantasies than younger or older women. They also had more sex and were more likely to have it sooner in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:51 PM
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A 40 year old divorced women making 80k isn't looking for casual sex with an average 18 year old man. No but a mid 20's or early 20's either finishing college or a job would be great. you have to remember a younger man is better than them by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:50 PM
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Do you really think that all the incels have to do is say yes to cougars? What do you define as an incel ? Is the average man an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:48 PM
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Where you get the idea of a gangster or drug dealer being top tier? Where do you live my man? In the USA I lived in SF and NYC as a professional. Weed and shrooms are huge in those areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:48 PM
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Yeah. Too many incels tried this Incels by definition feel they cannot get any woman . So not understanding here . Any man more than 5 years younger than me would be immediately shutdown. but are you interested in casual sex? Otherwise this doesn't apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:47 PM
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I mean if a woman doesn't want to have sex how is she any better than my mother ? the amount of chemical bonding and attachment during sex is what makes a relationship stick. Sure there's other things too, but you need sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:52 PM
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Are you not finding women that are in your personal 7/8/9 out of 10 range? Or are you not finding any women at all ? If you are not finding pretty or beautiful women, that can a problem with your location. You should consider becoming a passport bro. Although i have a hard to get. high paying job now, I am regularly dating new 8's and 9's here in Singapore. If you are not finding any women at all though, like zero, something is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:53 AM
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Men protect people with their penises? Theres some podcasts that has women saying they feel more protected when they have sex with men with large penises
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:37 AM
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No it doesn't, because the contract is not having sex with other people, not having to have sex with each other. This is false because the contrapositive is false. Such a contract would never be made with someone a person wouldn't have sex with, therefore the purpose of the contract is having sex with that person. Like if Sue would never have sex with Bob, she would never make a contract saying only Bob and Sue can have sex. So if we say that two people can only have sex with one another, that o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:03 AM
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This sub is pure entertainment and delusion. While that's correct, this OP sounds more like an FDS user than a general person in PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:17 AM
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The level of attractiveness that a man has to be at in order to indulge in the type of lifestyle you’re describing would blow your fucking mind in reality. It's not just attractiveness alone. You need some form of social or cultural advantage. e.g having major clout / following / racial preference etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:16 AM
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Hot college girls are encouraged to have a "hoe phase" so the hottest girls in society are down for casual sex. This is only available to incredibly attractive men or men with clout, frat stars, college athletes, drug dealers. The hoe phase in the American sense is all about having sex with criminals or extremely tall or muscular men. -Men no longer have to pay. In todays society men are not expected to pay for everything for women This is only true in certain European countries Casual sex is ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:14 AM
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I've seen this pop up in other discussions, particularly ones where women who have looked for casual sex in one form of another are met with men who seem to have no interest in actually getting to know her or what she likes, but instead trying to convert the interaction to meeting up for sex as quickly as possible. When I've pointed out that women don't respond well to that and are much more likely to fuck you if you actually take the time to make them feel like a human being a not a life-suppor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:53 PM
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If most women aren’t worth committing to then who are they gonna end up marrying? Men? They go to the passport office, get the passport, and get on a plane.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:47 PM
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The asians mastered this one by living near grandma and grandpa and letting them raise the kids part of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:27 PM
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Such a limiting factor. Being in a relationship where you don't get sex is more limiting, literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:26 PM
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my ex realized she was asexual. This is interesting. Do you suspect this before or leading up to it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:24 PM
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Nothing about the definition of monogamy states "you must have sex with your partner. I think you don't get it. No one is saying you must spread the legs and allow him in. Rather we are saying that, the contract is, only person A and B can have sex with one another. But if B doesn't want sex, that effectively breaks the contract. It prevents the contract from being fulfilled. Your logic is like saying an employer can suddenly not send pay checks, but the employee can;t quit. It makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:59 PM
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It's literally just saying you'll only have sex with each other if you have sex, not that you must have sex with each other. No that is prescriptive. If you deny that person sex indefinitely, you are breaking the purpose of that contract. You essentially prevent that person from having sex with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:53 PM
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Alright, so do you think equally that people should never leave if one partner loses their income ? That having lack of money is also part of marriage ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:17 PM
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I think if a marriage is sexless no alimony and no child support should be given if a divorce happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:14 PM
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I'd say it's equivalent to a woman deciding to get a sugar daddy because her husband lost his job for 1-2 months. Oh but women leave their man if he loses his job all the time. Yet no one complains about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:11 PM
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This discussion only covers voluntary refusal. You are citing things where the two people are separated or ill, but those are outliers. I am talking about 2 adults both working, living together, no chronic illnesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:09 PM
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When you say sex, do you mean all forms of intimacy that generate an orgasm, or stric'ly dickly? Good question, in this case you can assume it's anything beyond a simple kiss. Like a strong make out session and further is what is not happening for 1-2 months. I was not cleared for penetration with anything for four months after my hysterectomy, but everything else was OK after something like three weeks. Oh maybe i should have specified, this discussion only considers voluntary refusal of sex. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:07 PM
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Tons of 'high libido' people still end up going 1-2 months without sex simply because they can't even find a willing partner. This doesn't make sense, thats not a relationship though. A relationship has financial and emotional labor involved. and time spent. You can't compare that to a dry spell of 1-2 months while single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:05 PM
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If my partner has to pay for sex I'm roasting tf out of them. In Singapore, some women are fine with their husbands using massage girls but not any real women for sexual relief. With separation of social classes, no one would begin a relationship with a prostitute here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:04 PM
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Because it violates the negotiated nature of the relationship and the boundaries agreed to. but a relationship is confounded in the concept of sex with one person. But if you aren't having sex, doesn't that also break the confines of the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:03 PM
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1-2 months of not having sex. If it's not associated with illness / work / life events, that's basically a dead bedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:01 PM
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who NEVER pushes me for it and yet now I crave for it and we happily have sex at least once a week. I think this woman is just a low libido woman. At least once a week (meaning can be less than that) with a new partner is pretty low. New partners generally have a honey moon phase for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:41 PM
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if you are married then you are entitled to having sex with your partner on a normal level, You discovered the problem with modern marriage , it legally ties assets and money, but not access to sex. So it's an inherently unequal relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:36 PM
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Demanding sex is a fucking problem. It's the problem but its a problem of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:34 PM
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No, the ex husband and his threatening is the problem. She lost the desire for sex with him. If a woman is attracted to a man, she generally likes the idea of being desired by him. "sick to my stomach" is not about a method of approach, it's total disgust of a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:34 PM
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But I disagree that USA has a fitness culture. Americans are not fit. Most are fat as fuck. They might go to the gym, but they are still fat. Being big is a good thing and a part of the culture What state are you in though ? In NYC and SF (where i lived as a professional) , most people under 35 are gymming and lifting. guys at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:19 PM
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sexual attraction != orientation. As man who's heterosexual is attracted to women, he might not be attracted to this woman . That doesn't make him not heterosexual. also https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/wealthy-men-give-women-more-orgasms-v6rc5jqglqp#:~:text=Scientists%20have%20found%20that%20the,frequently%20his%20partner%20has%20orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:27 AM
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That doesn't have anything to do with sexual attraction Sexual attraction doesn't exist outside the context of status and wealth in Asian countries. If you dont have money you dont own your own place which is a huge huge thing for women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:04 AM
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America has zero class segregation. In fact, with all the looting in major cities i see on the news these days, it has reverse segregation, where the thieves are not prosecuted, so the poor have more power than the rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:03 AM
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I don’t know why people come on here and hand wave away the idea that money won’t make him attractive. This place seems to have quite a few woman founders / start up entrepreneurs which get triggered at the idea of pretty women choosing rich men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:31 AM
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Money cannot compensate for looks in the west because the equal class structure and rap/hip hop culture. Everyone shops and eats at more or less the same places. Therefore class segregation doesn't exist. In the west, the same woman can go out with a billionaire and a starving artist. In Asia, wealth is viewed as a form of masculinity. "gao fu shuai" is the key chinese phrase for what women want, tall rich handsome. Money is a key part of a lot of Asian ideas and culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:29 AM
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Money doesn’t make anyone more sexually attractive. That’s not a thing. Someone hasn't been to Asia before, In China, the first question parents ask for a potential son in law is how much you make
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:25 AM
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Hmmm, i would say the issue is one person has multiple sides. The same guy who in one moment makes you feel protected, calm, and secure, can turn around when he gets angry and make you feel unsafe. It's kind of like the paradox of athletes. Athletes are generally regarded as very attractive to women. Basketball, football, baseball swimmers, etc. /but they have the highest rates of sexual assault and domestic violence of any group of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:44 AM
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Either fitness classes or online dating. For the apps you have to set your age filter higher to see them. But fitness classes will generally bring the ones with good bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 09:35 PM
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But if the goal is casual sex , then it’s a lot easier and more straight forward. Most of them are fine going bareback straight away too .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 09:34 PM
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In general there’s a large untapped source of casual sex for men in their 20’s that go for women in their late 30’s or early 40’s. Obviously this is hampered by obesity rates depending on your country. But while I was in the USA , this was the only easy sex there was . Fit , toned , mostly recently divorced women looking for some fun. You get all the advantages here of being the more attractive , desirable person, and then being at their peak libido
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:29 PM
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When you lived in the financial hubs of America, money didn’t matter… duh? Everyone has money there. Social status is relative. I don't think it has much to do with that. It's a cultural perspective. The financial hubs of USA are very liberal and very equality focused. Even further than that, the USA from it's founding is based off the liberation from the taxation of the crown. So the very roots of America is based off fighting the wealthy . In Singapore, which is the highest cost of living in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:24 PM
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Poor people don't fly nearly as often as richer ones. Fat poor people even less often. I think the comment might be referring to TSA staff, which in my experience can be land whales.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:41 PM
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> Show off a Rolex watch I have had a gold oyster perpetual for a few years now. It definitely does wonders in Singapore, but when I lived in NYC and SF , it was a negative often in SF (there's many left wing people there) and in NYC, it didn't seem to make an impression. When I say money doesn't matter in dating in the USA, is that the same woman could date a billionaire, think he's ick, then date a starving artist, and think he's the shit. American culture at least doesn't respect wealth and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:34 PM
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Y’all wealthy educated men and thin wealthy educated women will still remain the top of the social structure. In the USA ? what do you mean by social structure ? Tinder in America is all fitness game. Nobody cares about money there .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:37 PM
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Only 13 percent of men in America are in shape. It’s great once you get there cause now look in shape in a country where 87 percent of people aren’t. But that's not an even distribution. There's more people who are fit and ripped in LA or NY than there will be in kentucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:36 PM
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OP, as someone who is sort of a passport bro ( I moved to Singapore due to an amazing job opportunity) , one thing to be cautious of is that you need to be able to earn money in both sides of the globe. People who go to Thailand / Vietnam / Philippines generally work online, via a business they have setup in the USA, or work remotely. People who go to Singapore / HK / Tokyo generally have a good job at the destination.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:04 PM
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thitd world girls are as AWALT as any other women, Nope. In the west women have a strong desire to be masculine. In Asian countries, women are comfortable with dressing and behaving in a feminine manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:00 PM
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Though I doubt passport bros want women with a college education as an educated woman? That would be terribly western. Western is a culture, not an education. Colleges in Asia don't have the mental illness of liberalism that the west does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:57 PM
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I think the important thing to keep in mind is women tend to focus on how a man makes her feel rather than how he looks in a visceral manner. But for men, it's the opposite relationship. This is why women emphasize things like "height" and "broad shoulders" vs the size of a bicep or the size of a chest muscle. They look for men that make them feel sexy , desired, and feminine. So women aren't so much forgiving of appearance rather it fits a role or position in a relationship. Where as men focus …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:18 PM
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Can you find proof ms puiyi has had surgery ? Also all women wear makeup when going out , so not sure why this is a fraud . Her body is hot too , more than average
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:31 PM
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Oh they definitely use make up . You can google ms puiyi without make up too . But my point is these aren’t fake women. Some people suggested these are AI generated , that’s false
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:26 PM
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Feel free to look at their instagrams . Plastic surgery is possible for first photo one on the left or the second one but ms puiyi hasn’t had any from interviews she has given
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:24 PM
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These are real women , my link goes to their instagrams look at all the videos if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:20 PM
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Can you explain how multiple videos that show the same woman looking the same is edited ? Ms Puiyi , one fo the women in the first pic is the most famous model in Malaysia . These are not ordinary women. Their photos and videos are everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:14 PM
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But these girls don't look like this in real life. It's all artificially enhanced for ig photos. Look at the videos on their instagrams. These are models though . at least the first 2 are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:22 PM
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They’re alllll edited lmao No they are not. Look at their instagram profiles and videos. Ms Puiyi is super popular, she isn't editted lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:22 PM
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The first two are literally on a yacht so you can probably sleep with them too if you have the money and are that way morally inclined. Yes i have and i agree with that. However, this sub promotes the concept of chads being able to get women like that just with their looks. So i am asking more about non-money motivated ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:21 PM
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Are these parties for heterosexuals though ? Or is it LGBTQ folks ? Nothing against, but I have never seen or heard of a sex party in modern day America (meaning not the 80's or 90's) that was primarily for heterosexuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:31 PM
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It would imply a large portion of men are attracted to such women yes. Or it's acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:05 PM
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So let's say you are average height, average looks, average weight, average intelligence, average wealth - then you are a below average man in the dating market. You need to have something to make up for your average traits. But then what is an average man in the actual dating market?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:34 PM
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What I mean by everyday photo is it's taken in an everyday setting. The outfit is unremarkable. What i mean by dressing to draw the eye is something like this https://cdn.cliqueinc.com/posts/301028/best-workout-clothes-on-amazon-301028-1684356558959-promo.700x0c.jpg The women in your photo has ample cleavage so she would do great if just didn't do the jean jacket.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:48 AM
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Where do you find a woman like that would be unattractive ? She’s pretty! But the photo you showed is just an everyday photo. She isn’t dressing to draw eyes or receive extra attention in a public setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:03 AM
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Men have to be exceptional to stand a chance. 6'+, $100K+ You have to define standing a chance. Does it mean you get average statistical women (who would be in the overweight category, avg weight is 170 pounds for women), or do u mean landing pretty/cute women who are healthy weight, cute face etc? I think in the USA its very hard to excell with hot women without some form of clout or social advantage. I'm 6'1" and made $300k in Silicon Valley (so a good salary, but not remarkable for the area),…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:40 AM
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Rapists still get a slap on the wrist if the woman was drunk or wearing sexy panties. Do you understand what a reasonable doubt is in courts of law ? Basically that presents a reasonable doubt whether or not rape occurred. Of course, more evidence and testimonials can override that doubt to a jury. But it's no different than a scene thats a suicide showing someone else's finger prints on the pistol. You can't just have a court of law be a social justice warrior encampment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:30 AM
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For women, I want healthy/average weight or a little curvy is fine too. I have a preference for asian women due to shared values / culinary tastes. Love language must be touch and sex. Food is also great. For relationship pattern, I have found the best pattern is an FWB that then later turns into a relationship. This way you guarantee a woman respects, admires, and desires you while sex is already in play.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:19 AM
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Don't have a large body count. Outside of having an only fans, how would you verify or check for this ? Also whats large to you ? Over 30-40 ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:10 AM
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You care less about sex the more you are less surrounded by stimuli for it. When I was working in Silicon Valley and NYC as a software engineer (part startup, part for a hedge fund) , super long hours at work surrounded by mostly dudes. Women in the SF bay area normally dress more manly (think baggy collar shirt and blazer styles), so there's less eye candy floating around. Barely had any sex. Now in Singapore, almost every woman dresses super feminine, works out, wears tight breathable clothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:07 AM
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But if below average is not fuckable , how fuckable is the average man? Is it just a man who is in the possibility range of women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:52 PM
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is it really such a big leap to lock up incels who spew misogynist shit online all day? Yes because then Trump can lock up reporters for reporting bad stories about him, if he is re-elected.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:39 PM
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The very existence of silicon valley or a steeply higher rate of virginity at top rank universities disproves the contrapositive of your idea, that men who do adjust to modern society do well with women (not guaranteed in the west at all). Second, freedoms women or men have don't have to much negative effect on dating. The real problem is the destruction of gender identity for heterosexual individuals. We preach all the time how women don't need no man, how women are strong and independent in li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:38 PM
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My ex got me a wallet I'm still using. And that also makes me feel bad when I think about it. I am confused though, are these platonic female friends or exes ? Platonic should mean you have never touched them in a sexually manner whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:38 PM
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I am below average because I stay at home watching anime and playing games, I don't even bother going out (work from home). Let me guess, software engineer WFH since pandemic started ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:34 PM
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A below average man is a man who collectively has traits that are below average. It shouldn't be a difficult concept to understand. Right, but i have seen on here men interchange average, below average, and unattractive. For example, I have seen men claim they are 5'7" in the USA, but "average". Yet, the average male height is 5'9". I think it's important to also note that average for a man is average to a man, but below-average to women. But is there a difference between statistical averages an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:30 PM
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I don't believe this for a second, read the comment the dude left on the video, You missed the point. That man is a regular white dude dating hot girls in China and other asian countries https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8qZppcyRqo Asia is some sort heaven for unattractive white men, Ok now what do you mean by "unattractive" ? Is this average ? below average ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:19 PM
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no one is that guy in every situation. EXACTLY Cultures and societies create chad profiles. I was hardly getting cute girls in the USA, but in Singapore I might be close to a chad, pending how it is defined. Although i don't like the term chad as it's not a realistic concept. It requires a societal level privilege or perk.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:15 PM
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when in fact their main green flag is simply "genetic phenotype." There's no genetic phenotype. Cultures and societies create successful profiles of men. The men who are chads in the USA might as well get capital punishment for drugs in asian countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:11 PM
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This has nothing to do with feminism, It has everything to do with feminism and a culture of entitlement . If a woman believes she needs to do or earn everything a man does, and think she still is entitled to protection or benefits from men, its a huge mess. It's like why me as an engineer who earned $300k in the USA has no more success then a man who deals weed. women are the same everywhere. Also you do realize most of the world with a few exceptions falls under the western sphere of influence…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:02 PM
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But places like Poland don’t have feminism right ? The question is if any place , would someone immigrating from a much wealthier country be successful there ? Based on data , Eastern Europe seems to have tall men, unlike Asian countries , so that’s a negative toward passport bro stuff there
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:08 PM
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So one thing to keep in mind is my experience is in SF and NYC as a software engineer where earning $300k a year is not upper class in those environments at all. Below 104k is considered low income by social workers in SF. Now , when I say 5/10’s , I’m referring to online dating and swiping apps . With a LOT of time and effort in real life, this means going to lots of social activities , bars , music festivals , soul cycle classes , hundreds of hours in all this , I was able to pull a few 7/10 o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 02:58 PM
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What country is that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 02:42 PM
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One could in theory make the argument someone who pays for sex loves women since they are employing women in a job where they would never employ men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:53 AM
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What is your definition of ethical ? Do you consider amazon delivery an ethical job ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:52 AM
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While I have no clue of sex work in the USA , in Asian countries , generally the paid sex does go both ways . The few times I have been in some soap lands in Japan , the women ask you to finger them / go down on them as well. And of course , it’s only my own experience I can speak for .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:50 AM
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She or who you are responding to isn’t delusional. She is just naming her own price for sex . It’s like that rapper guy that paid women who were married to have sex with him. At a certain price most women will partake. Just the way it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:47 AM
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ABSOLUTELY no benefit to try and date an average man when they treat women the same as attractive men: only as good as pussy. Are you suggesting women aren't getting "dickmatized" or having situationships with random hot guys ? It's funny how women always play the victim card when it suits them lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:01 AM
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Something doesn’t add up here… What doesn't add up is western society. You’re either very autistic, dumb, extremely socially awkward or what u said is a bunch of bs. Oh my, how could i be "dumb" if i make tons of money at an engineering position and went to a top school ? There's plenty of guys like me, here's one for size Are you trying to say American women value income or education ? Or what's your argument here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:52 AM
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I think we are moving the goal posts a bit . What I was referring to when I wrote this was instances I have seen on Reddit where a guy gets upset or a woman describes a guy getting upset for paying for a $11 meal for a woman and didn’t get a kiss or a second date . But yea if we are talking about 2nd or 3rd dates where she is letting or asking the man to pay, then that’s venturing to her entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:52 AM
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I’m shocked people are some how thinking identity politics isn’t taught in schools . But maybe it’s more at university level.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:49 AM
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What kind of help are we talking about? A classic example is women complaining about a man who stopped being friends with her after he found out she has a boyfriend or got a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:15 AM
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That’s appreciation of a naked woman who’s giving you sex. Appreciation is a form of respect, which ties to a counter argument to your point below: Guys will fuck anything they’re attracted to. No respect needed Can you kindly define what respect means in your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:12 AM
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respect means you appreciate a woman and her presence. When I have a naked woman in my presence, i always treat her with respect, put her pleasure at priority, let her stay over or however long she needs or wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 02:59 AM
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Kids != sex and relationships . Also Korean men have extremely high rates of domestic violence
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 02:46 AM
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I've had teaching certificates in Alberta, Montana, Washington, and California. I'm unaware of this idea ever being taught to students in either Canada or the USA. https://www.city-journal.org/article/woke-elementary they literally teach identity politics and critical race theory to elementary school citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 02:33 AM
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Most of the time entitlement is just the tip of the iceberg. Interesting, what other core problems do you see women having in the west?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 02:03 AM
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How do you think women should respect men Do not feel you deserve anything special from a man you do not know at all (obviously different once you develop a relationship) . Treat everything positive you get as something special, and be appreciative of people that spend their time with you. how do men respect women they aren’t attracted to? I am not too sure what you are asking in this part, but to me, attraction is a subset of respect. For example, I greatly respect Hillary Clinton because she d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 02:02 AM
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It's not, men sexual attraction is independent from respect. I don't mean respect in the feminist definition, I mean it in the dictionary sense. Men can have respect even for prostitutes or massage girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:58 AM
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and men feel entitled to sex after putting in a lot of effort to even get to the point of sitting at a dinner table with a woman. Can you clarify what you mean by effort? Generally both people on a date put effort into looking good / prepping for a date. You need to give better examples for how men feel entitled. So entitlement means one feels they are owed something by virtue of doing something else. So nice guy tm stuff goes here, simping, friendzoning, etc. i'm not saying men cause the entitl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:56 AM
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My perspective is you ultimately need to respect someone to feel attracted to them . Especially of women toward men. Countries like Korea and where I live in Singapore have elements of feminism (not the same level as the USA ) , but because women are by default kind and respectful , it makes them a lot more open toward men. So you have a point where women have a lot of perks in the west. But in my view those perks and the amount of them come from entitlement or a desire for government entitlemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:43 AM
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So many men have hang ups about traveling for sex it’s silly. Like they fall into this trap of believing in sex for validation .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:07 AM
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Railed is a form of attention .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:07 AM
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This 100% . But entitlement is a two way street. Men often in western society expect women to sleep with them if they pay for dinner . But the same society outlaws prostitution ! How backwards …. The solution is to treat people with respect , mutually
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:06 AM
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The problem with your idea is that while this can be true for the truly average , when someone becomes above average or exceptional is not at all matching or a correlative . When I was in the USA I was getting barely any woman who was of a normal BMI and a cute or pretty face. I’m 6’1” , well built , high salary (over quarter of a mill) , top school educated . I would consider myself at a high percentile / well above average , but was only able to get either overweight or obese women or normal w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:05 AM
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Different towns almost never have s different dating culture . Cultures are normally bound by countries . Also dating culture is heavily influenced by the values of a nation or group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:33 PM
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Oh so this is the unique part about Singapore . It’s 75% ethnically Chinese , and then divided up the rest between Malays and Indians , but only 0.01% European or white people . However , the official language is English and all of their media / internet is based off of the USA and hollywood media. They use amazon / Netflix , have democracy etc . Also Singaporean men need to do 2-3 years of National service (because they follow Israel’s military model) , but women don’t . This creates a major ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:52 PM
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Went to a top university in the US, worked several years in both SF and NYC as a software engineer, Dating sucked . Now , I was able to get dates and sex , I’m no incel , but the quality was 5/10’s at best. I spend some PTO in Philippines , so much sex available , but not much business prospects , so instead transferred to singapore via my company and have beautiful dates lined up easily . Hundreds of tinder matches . Now , I wouldn’t call myself average . I am 6’1” , white , blue eyes , good fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:25 PM
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Yes . Go to the passport office . Get passport. Checkout of western society I have lot count of the women I have slept with since I moved to Singapore 10 months ago . Oh but average is tricky , do you mean average in the USA ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:47 PM
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That just makes it worse . A whole society that dgaf about health
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:34 PM
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That’s a very niche fetish 💀 The desire for obese women is not niche in the west. It's a wide spread problem. in the USA the average woman is 170 pounds, the largest average weight for women in the entire world. meanwhile in Asia, this is what is considered a plus size model https://www.instagram.com/p/CuPbSZspr3r/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:32 PM
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PPD Men: What do you want? What would make your life so incredibly awesome? To have a job that makes lots of money and requires technical / critical thinking, to be in an environment where women respect and appreciate my presence , and where I am more desired than most of the male population. Thankfully I have found that in Singapore.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:16 PM
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To be considered attractive, a woman only needs to be thin. That’s it. Nope, not in the west at least. https://nypost.com/2022/07/12/i-was-bullied-for-my-big-belly-but-now-i-make-12k-a-month-eating-on-camera/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:02 PM
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Oh ok, so you are talking about nerds who are socially inept to a high degree. In that case I agree with you to wanking over your own “intelligence.” But if you want to attract a partner you have present yourself as someone who would be open to doing something mutually enjoyable But yea, dinner, drinks, ice cream, seeing some botanical gardens, looking at some shops.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:12 PM
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they present a character whose ideal date night is staying in playing video games and nothing else. Oh god, you are confusing two different sets of men here. "nerds" are a huge category. Nerds have built entire companies, invented useful things for society, and in some cases, changed the world as we know it. but men who view video games as a date are like, in a unique odd group of their own. Western women (in most cases) are drunk on the notion of wealth equality and don't value or see intellige…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:58 PM
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Ugly, obese females, even great grandmothers get more matches and DM's online than the literal top 1% men in terms of looks- male models. This is an American only thing though. Even Europe doesn't have this level of fat acceptance. America is just obese and men are sold on the idea obese is hot To give some perspective, this is a "plus size" model in Korea https://www.instagram.com/ssunbiki/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:38 PM
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https://nypost.com/2022/07/12/i-was-bullied-for-my-big-belly-but-now-i-make-12k-a-month-eating-on-camera/ Woman makes $12k a month from men for literally making herself fatter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:29 PM
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losing the right to education, not allowed to work, expected to be a servant to their man Excuse me, this is 2023, not 1950. Also the education part is silly, women literally out number men in US colleges these days. Women in the west LOVE victimhood. here's proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:27 PM
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