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polyhooly/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 09:29 PM
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Feminism is a civil and social rights movement that is a reaction to how society views and treats women, regardless of their individual.merits. Now before you all get your panties in a wad and ask what civil rights do women lack the cause women are more privledged than men blah blah blah, I'm not asking you to agree with its tenets. TRP is not a civil rights movement. It's main goal is to figure out how to get laid and/or navigate relationships with women. Society is not persecuting members of T…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 04:47 PM
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I think they at least have room temperature IQs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 04:11 PM
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Fortunately for you, the outliers within the MRA only hurt feelings. And go on shooting sprees, but who's keeping score, really?
/r/MensRights25/10/15 05:39 AM
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"I don't believe there is any real love within them." +29 But we're a serious human rights movement, not a thinly veiled reactionary hate group against women!
/r/MensRights24/10/15 05:46 PM
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Oh, OK, so when you guys do it, its righteous behavior because of the noble reason of getting your dick wet, but when others treat you the same way you treat women, they're just big old meanie butt bullies. Such a salient point there. Just like how my God is the true God, but your God is a false deity and you're a heretic. You get a gold star for self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 07:11 PM
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My point was that you're indignant about the narrative Blue Pillers have created for men like you, those "hundreds of thousands of men." Yet you, and men like you, love to create narratives about women's experiences, opinions, etc... Tl;dr/ you can dish it out, but you can't take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 01:44 AM
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It seems you don't like it when people who aren't you create a narrative about your experiences, motivations, thoughts, and emotions, which usually ends up painting a picture of you as a sort of villain. That's interesting...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:58 PM
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You're either an epic troll, or you need to be committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:32 AM
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OP's point is that women have everything given to them on a silver platter, which is why they're such spoiled bitches. He is defining women's experiences for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 01:45 PM
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Nah, I did. I could write a peer reviewed dissertation on the subject, and you'd still say I failed to address OPs points, because to you, there is no valid address of OPs points other than "right on, bro!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 09:50 PM
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The chief comparison here between how easy women have it in life versus how hard men have it is regarding getting laid. Yes, my dear, first world problems indeed. But again, I'll reiterate, Red Pill solipcism: thinking you, as a loser lonely guy who struggles with relationships with women and is therefore all salty toward women, have any sort of remotely objective, rationally-based idea of what the female experience is, and not only do you think your philosophy holds any clout, you actually beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 09:39 PM
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God, such a typical, dramatic woman. Maybe if you weren't so spoiled and solipcistic, you would understand that these bitter, lonely men know in intimate, objective detail what the female experience is better than some dumb woman ever could. Your life experiences and perspectives on that subject are irrelevent. The sooner you understand this, the sooner we can get to good natured, rational debate around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 07:40 PM
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Red Pill solipcism: I would like it if I had a thousand vaginas thrown at me and had desperate women willing to do anything to have sex with me, therefore, women are living the good life. Maybe, just maybe, women have another perspective on this that doesn't coincide with a lonely man's perspective. Nah, jk, we all know women's perspectives on things are irrelevent. Man fee fees rational, logical analysis of such situations are the only things that matter around here. Then you have society telli…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 07:35 PM
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As a tried and true BPer, nah, my advice would not be to "be yourself," because yourself is obviously kind of a chode. So please stop using that strawman. Does BP, as a collective, offer advice? No, because it is a sub to mock the dumbness that is RP. Why is there a sub to make fun of guys just trying to improve their luck with women? Because large portion of your cohorts like to post things like "women are quasi-humans who would rather be beaten than bored, who are moral and intellectual degene…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 09:49 PM
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Because the world was just bopping along fine before women could vote. There were no violations of personal liberty, no forms of government welfare existed, and taxes were always low. Yep. Arguing that someone shouldn't have the right to vote because they disagree with you is immensely childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 08:00 PM
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Yeah... your source didn't say women have "less control over emotions than men," nor did it say that women experience more powerful emotions than men. That is entirely your (incorrect) conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 03:39 AM
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What it means when research says that women are more emotional than men is that women are better at recognizing their own emotions and the emotions of others. That's it. The tests they use to conclude this are things like showing people a serious of pictures of people expressing different emotions, and how correctly the subjects identify the emotion being displayed. What it does not mean is that women base their decisions on rash, spur of the moment feelings with little to no regard to rationali…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 03:36 AM
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I love how its virtually only women responding. OP, did you really expect men who are members of a group that has said some things about women that makes Hitler's rhetoric about Jews seem positively flattering in comparison, would have anything good to say about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 05:52 AM
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You, because you're clearly more familiar with them than me.
/r/MensRights11/07/15 02:44 PM
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And yet your ilk are brigading my posts in The Blue Pill because I rustled your jimmies in TIL. When people brigade you: not cool! Someone call the admins! When you brigade others: lol.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 08:49 PM
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In light of GLO's vague threats to a BPer, I've decided to breaks my "no PPD" and "definitely never engage GLO" rule to say this: Oh look, GLO got himself a girlfriend. And he hasn't managed to screw it up for a year! You are the epitome of a beta male. You spend an inordinate amount of time trying to prove things to other people, and do enough chest pounding gorillas wouldn't even take you seriously. Anyone who doesn't have a room temperature IQ can see that you are so insecure, its palpable. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 05:19 PM
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LOL, you really miss me, don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 11:14 PM
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First, I fail to see how women being seen as wonderful is anything but a privilege. Because when women fail to live up to that perfect, gentle, ethereal being image (aka the pedastal), inevitably proving themselves as fallible human beings, thats usually where hostile sexism is rooted. TRP is also not hostile towards women. We recognize them for their nature and adapt accordingly. Of couse. TRP just recognizes women for what they are: moral and intellectual degenerates. That's not hostility or h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 06:36 PM
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Discontinued 3D Doriotos. Thanks, females. Bedbugs are making a comeback. Just another symptom of our feminized society.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 03:44 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 03:41 PM
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Reading comprehension: You have none.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 06:55 AM
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What I'm saying is that you're making up shit about the motivations and experiences.of transexuals because it supports your argument, when in reality you know jack shit about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 06:44 AM
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So right you are. Feminine is just another word for degeneracy. I mean, look at those deteriorated, shithole, feminine socities like those faggots in Denmark, Germany, Canada, etc... unlike those hypermasculine, florishing societies of Syria, Iraq, Niger, Somalia, Honduras, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 06:39 AM
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So basically, anything you feel that is negative in society = feminine. Woman bad. Man good. Ooga ooga.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 05:25 AM
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You suspect... And this intuition of yours is based on...? Have you even ever spoken with a trans person? Things aren't just true because you want them to be true, because it conveniently confirms your bias. You are literally making up a reality for a trans persons based on nothing more than what you want to be true about their experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 07:53 PM
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You hate being around women, strongly preferring male company, and used the term "basic bitches..." Its 2015. Its OK to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 05:04 PM
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I have never once heard a transexual person say the reason for their transition is that the gender they are transitioning to has it easier than their biological sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 04:59 PM
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LOL, your argument is that most women just "sit around, playing housewife all day," yet your very own link proves you so deliciously wrong. One in four married women with children under the age of 15 are stay at home moms... That's a pretty narrow subset of women, so no, pumpkin, most women are not playing housewife, even 75% of those in the demographic that is most likely to be a housewife, aren't. And with that being said, about 40% of stay at home moms in America live at or below the poverty …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 06:16 AM
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And your evidence of this would be...? Your ass doesn't count as a valid source, just FYI.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 06:06 AM
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Most people, women included, don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 06:00 AM
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Let's take a poll of everyone who'd rather quit their job and just hangout all day, shall we? Not sure how you think "...but they want to" is a valid response to criticism over your claim that most women just sit around all day at home while their selfless, honorable man breaks his back for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 05:55 AM
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Because the average woman sits around all day playing housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 05:15 AM
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The two issues I have with TRP's concept of the hamster is that 1) It is a uniquely female phenomenon and 2) Any thought, opinion, feeling a woman has is based on this unreasonable, irrational "hamster." Just yesterday an EC was preaching on TRP that if you were to slap a woman's ass in a club, her reaction has nothing to do with your actual behavior, but rather is governed by her (unreasonable) emotional state. Of course it was all lost on him that he was hamstering away his bad behavior, a fel…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 05:48 PM
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You're judging women's position in the dating game from a male perspective. You're applying what you, as a male, desire in the dating game, while failing to consider that women may desire different things, and experience things differently in the dating game than you, as a man, do. I find this especially interesting from a group of guys who call women "solipcistic by nature," meaning only seeing things from your own narrow point of view, as well as who love to shout from the rooftops that men an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:02 PM
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Feminism is popular because women are stupid and hate Le STEM Master Race. Did anyone expect anything less from this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 08:00 PM
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TBP is a subreddit dedicated to mocking TRP. This subreddit is for individual BPers to present their arguments against TRP. Not sure how that is so difficult to distinguish.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 07:15 PM
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Haha, are you serious? How little self awareness do you have to have to not realize that that is exactly what TRP is about, lamenting how feminism has tainted the mind of the Western woman, and the few good women out there can really only be found in Japan and Eastern Europe, bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 01:12 AM
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Is that the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:55 AM
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Citation?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:55 AM
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This is the case with most people who are single in their older years. The dating pool has shrunk, and all though this this pains RPers to hear, most single, older men are not hooking up with college (or high school, or middle school) girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 01:38 AM
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Women are selfish hamsters because they are trying to run their lives on their own terms, and not considering what your penis thinks about that? You're right, women are just ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 01:36 AM
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This is why I reject the argument that TRP isn't looking to get laid with men, so that's why they don't talk about male virtues. It is a very common themes among RPers to assert the moral and intellectual superiority of men compared to women. And this is why people have a problem with all of you, for those of you confused as to why people take issue with little old' RPers just trying to self improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 06:24 PM
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Ahh yes India, that feminist matriarchy where men are held down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 03:10 PM
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Show me any piece of evidence that demonstrates that men, as a group, have been held back or discriminated against because some women believe that men are pigs. That's the difference between some vague complaint about women calling men pigs versus TRP's prevalent beliefs that women are largely morally and intellectually inferior to men. Next, show me any place on TBP where a man is mocked for the sole reason of being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 11:22 PM
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If you don't think marriage and relationships are for you, then you do you. But many MGTOW that I have seen are more "Women don't want me, so I am going to dedicate my life to proving why this is due to female pathology, and how I am really rejecting them."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 06:02 PM
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People's Sexiest Men Alive: 1994 Edition.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 08:55 PM
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The prevailing thought in society is that women should take necessary precautions to avoid being raped, and that often times when a woman is raped, she could have done some things differently, like imbibed less, wore different clothes, etc... Most people teach their daughters these things, not that they can and should pass out at parties, walk around dangerous neighborhoods barely dressed, and expect nothing to happen to them. Get fucking real. Don't give me this bullshit that women are widely n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 04:35 AM
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Adding to that, one big aspect of mansplaining is men invalidating and telling women how they should feel about issues that are often uniquely female, or issues from the female perspective. An example using race instead of gender is if a black person is telling about how they feel uncomfortable around police due to racial profiling, and I as white person tell that if they aren't doing anything wrong, they have nothing to worry about. It is TRP's very own definition of solipcism, that is seeing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 04:56 PM
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That's a really unhealthy view of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 01:22 AM
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I'm sure there are some men who are indifferent to professional aspects of a woman's life, but the fact that so many RPers go out their way to be downright vicious, insulting and demeaning professional women, goes to demonstrate that for many of them, it is an issue of insecurity because they are clearly not indifferent on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 02:28 AM
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And how many women have had the complaint that their husbands work too much, that they never see them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 02:25 AM
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That's not what I am saying. Did you read any of what I wrote above? Obviously not. Since I'm such a gem, I'll be kind enough to rewrite it for you: while I'd agree that more women place more emphasis on a man's social and financial success than men do with women, I take issue with the very common RP assertion that a woman's success in the professional world is at best entirely irrelevant to most men, and at worst a turn off, to the point that RPers and like minded men make insulting and demeani…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 05:03 PM
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The same can be said for women when it comes to purely just sexual attraction. Who do you think the average HB 7+ 19 year old woman would rather fuck for a ONS or develop a FWB relationship: the successful, middle aged software engineer making six figures, or the hot bartender making maybe $35K?. And with that being said, how is what you described not the same as "alpha fux, beta bux?" Hot girl fux, good girl, uh, LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 04:13 PM
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others have already mentioned how this is an embarrassingly bad attempt at a survey, sonill leave that alone. I will say this: I would agree that women still place more emphasis on their partners being financially and status-wise successful than men place on women, but this RP claim that most men simply don't care about a woman's achievements, status, etc... are just projecting their own insecuties of being one upped by a woman. This is why RPers are down right insulting and vicious to any aspec…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 03:29 PM
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A reasonable balance. You can have a backbone, be forward about your intentions, without being ass kissing little twerp, or shit eating grinning try-hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 09:44 PM
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Again, they go for it because of the novelty that makes them feel like a harass instead of a meek little bitch (to put in TRP terms).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 09:43 PM
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Definitely lazy with a side dish of confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 09:42 PM
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So in other words, your experiences and feelings are more legitimate than others because.....? Something something you're an alpha of the pussy, similar to other successful individuals, such as millionaires and bodybuilders?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 09:41 PM
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Lazy, useful, what's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 09:38 PM
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Hey, when men get emotional, it's for legitimate, logical reasons. When women get emotional, it's because they're irrational, childish females.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 09:35 PM
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Oh FFS.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 09:34 PM
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no one wants to admit their negative characteristics, least of all women. What was that about how TRP doesn't really pit the virtues of men up against the (lack of) virtues of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 09:32 PM
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I'd take a man who makes $36K, drives a '98 Subaru, has an average build, and lives in a mediocre apartment, but who isn't a miserable, hateful misogynist taking out his insecurities and shit life that he's hellbent on convincing everyone (and even himself sometimes) that its actually awesome, on random women, any day. All of your bragging rights are just superficial, topical bullshit that don't matter once the initial novelty (quickly) wears off. An insufferable person is an insufferable person…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 04:22 AM
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One of my favorite movies when I was a teenager was 10 Things I Hate About You. It was on TV the other day and I was like "aww hell yes." Now I haven't seen a movie in years, so when the scene comes along where Joseph gordon-levitt's character goes off on Bianca in the car after dropping her off from the party about how she is so selfish and inconsiderate to not date him after he had done so many nice things for her, like learn French so he could be her tutor so he could get closer to her, I fou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 02:21 PM
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You just confirmed everything I wrote. You wrote it yourself: intelligence is not the most optimal method to get laid. So in other words, intelligence, correlating with income, may get you to Beta Bux status at best. The most optimal way for a man to get laid is to be sexy (lift) and have a personality that women want to be around (dominance!). The same advice you give women to attract men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 03:26 PM
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According to TRP, intelligence does nothing to get men laid, either. Studious nerds with poor social skills may, at best, may become a beta bux for some post-wall CC retiree, and get laid maybe twice a year. That's why you gotta lift, brah. Most men would rather be with a super hot secretary than a homely nobel laureate. And there you go with those false dichotomies, again. If you phrase it that way, I'd say most women would rather fuck the hot bartender than the grotesque software engineer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 02:31 AM
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The part where you're just bitching and whining (e.g. all of it).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 01:02 AM
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Oh lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 11:36 PM
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Tom's basic argument is that in general men continue to be expected perform all the traditional male roles, while feminism has convinced women that they don't need to do any traditional female roles. I would agree that men are more bounded by traditional gender roles than women these days, however it's a slightly different position women are in when they are bound by traditional gender roles, as men's roles are more respected than women's. Men make more money and work harder than women. Men work…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 03:33 PM
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Are there men like this with those values? Oh certainly. I value being educated, smart, opinionated, and knowing what I want, in myself. Any man with those types of values, who tells me these are negative qualities, or inconsequential ones, is not worth my time. He is a low quality man whom I want nothing to do with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 03:27 PM
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Are you saying all women 35 and older are "losers," on par with drug addicts and prostitutes, or just the single ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 06:50 PM
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My parents had a good balance of involvement. They weren't helipcopter parents but they weren't neglectful, either. My mom did my laundry until I was about 14. Then I got upset with her for washing some of my clothes improperly, so I started doing it for myself at that age. They helped with homework as best they could. Yes, but I never had issues with grades. I was far harder on myself than they ever were on me. No, but they told me if I wanted those extra things, such as $250 to get 4th row Nsy…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 09:15 PM
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Looking at STI infection rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 09:02 PM
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This is why CMVs with you are useless. You have made up your mind, and nothing, no amount of evidence, will change it. This isn't a CMV, its a "watch me defend my deeply held beliefs tooth nail." You're a waste of anyone's here time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 08:59 PM
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Brooke Burke's 43, so....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 06:46 PM
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And you're drawing conclusions based on your hunches. I'd say mine has more bases in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 06:45 PM
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And your basis for this assertion is...?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 10:53 PM
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imagine if he talked to you and he'd travelled the world. He was funny as hell, socially dominant, stoic and emotionally mature, wise as a sage, and employed in a Fortune 500 company going places, etc. Wouldn't that boost his attractiveness? No. But he'd be a great catch for my 50 year old friend, Judy. The point being made is that men don't become any more attracted sexually to a girl for any of the above reasons. They want her sexually for her body. That's it. You're projecting again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 09:27 PM
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OK... So what are you trying to say here? That traditionally pretty girls without tattoos are automatcally "good girls?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 09:19 PM
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So you're think there is no grounds in reality for the old finding a good girl to bring home to mom trope? How about how TRP advocates spinning plates, and then seriously vetting any potential LTR material, of which one major recommendation is to avoid the type of women you'd plate?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 09:14 PM
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Yet surveys show that the partner count for both men and women can be broken down to similar numbers.TRP's 80/20 rule is a crock of shit, as the only evidence they have to support it is their own anecdotes and one release from OkCupid showing that female users rate most male users as "below average" in looks. So those men marrying those abominations of humanity, 28 year old women (which is the average age at which women marry in the United States), are statistically just as likely, if not more, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 09:05 PM
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They also want guys who won't go running back to their Reedit friends to talk shit about how she's a hamstering slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:31 AM
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There is a kernal of truth to this. Yes, many women fear how man will regard her after they have sex, especially if it is early into their courtship, relationship, whatever you want to call it. So even if they do really want to have sex, they deny this urge to preserve their reputation with the guy. My problem with TRP is this attitude that its a girl trying to trick you into thinking she's not a slut, or irrationally convince herself she is not one... but she totally is! TRP hates women who hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:04 AM
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Yet a major metric, if not the biggest of all, in determining if TRP has been successfully implemented in one's life is with one's sexual success with women. The only difference is that instead of putting the pussy on the pedestal by thinking women are ethereal creatures whom one has to shower with compliments and what not to get sex to fall out, TRP teaches more of a bullying angle for interaction with women. Both camps, the nice guys and TRP amused master, still have one goal to define their s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 03:24 AM
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The best hard data we can present on this subject shows that indeed, you are going on about a rare occurance, and not typical female sexual strategy, which is the whole crux of why you brought up this subject to begin with: to discuss the nature of what most women do and desire in regards to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 03:17 AM
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And people can frame others for murder. TRP prides itself on its AWALT mentality where it operates on proclaimed generalizations about the most women possible, so it can therefore navigate the sexual strategy that most women supposedly use. You're talking about an outlandish scenario that only a mentally ill person would find themselves in. Most women looking for rough, sub/dom sex are not concocting a secret scheme to get their partners arrested for rape. Jesus Tap Dancing Christ. Let's talk ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 02:09 AM
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No. In order for someone to be convicted of rape, they have been to be reported, and it determined that they committed the act beyond responable doubt. Saying "well a woman can give you every indication of her not wanting to have sex, to the point that she is fighting you off and screaming no, and then goes to the police to report the encounter as rape," is such an extreme, and ridiculous scenario. At that point, speculating if she really wanted it deep down is completely fucking irrelevent. A w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 08:39 PM
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But that's not rape. That's consenual sub/dom sex done within the confines of a relationship where the partner is trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 09:26 PM
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If a woman is screaming no and fighting you off, and then runs to the police claiming she was raped, you should probably take that as an indication that you are not getting consent, and not try to guess if she's just rape role playing or not. This is a perfect illustration of the difference between fantasy and reality. In a women's "rape" fantasy, she knows that she has been consenting all along. Whether or not the guy knows is irrelevant because he is a figment of her imagination. In real life,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 09:19 PM
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Again, I explained it. If the sexual encounter is wanted, by its very definition, it is not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 09:04 PM
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I did explain why you're wrong: You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what rape is. If a woman wants, a word you used frequently to describe these sexual encounters, the sexual encounter, it is not rape. These "rapes" you're describing are simply rough, sub/dom sex, but always consentual.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 08:53 PM
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If a woman wants the sexual encounter, it is not rape. Rape, by its very nature, is unwanted (with certain exceptions regarding those who cannot legally consent, such as a child). What the hell sort of evidence do you want me to present to you regarding that?A link to Webster's or the OED dictionaries? And no ones talking about moral superiority. I mentioned or implied nothing about morals at all. I'm just pointing out how you guys fail to understand what rape actually is and even though everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 08:31 PM
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They want to be raped by someone that is attractive and someone they are comfortable being raped by. Women want to be raped want You have a fundamental lack of understanding of what rape is. Many RPers here do, too. It's this autistic-like inability to distinguish the nuances between rough, ravishing sex, as well as fantasy, versus actual rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 07:58 PM
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See, this is why no one takes you seriously. You hear and see want you want to and base your evidence on "things you read on the internet." Its a waste of time to debate sineone who holds staunch beliefs based on shitty evidence. And when presented with contrary evidence, you rationalize why it's wrong no matter how ridiculous your rationalization is, and why you are right under all circumstances. There simply is no honest, good faith debate with someone like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 07:42 PM
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I don't believe you're the real world Patrick Bateman, no. I believe everything you wrote, about the guy standing in the bar corner, is more or less your fantasy. Oh, don't get me wrong. There are men like that, just not ones on TRP. As a RPW so aptly put once on here, TRP is full of a bunch of betas who wished they were alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:08 PM
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Raise your hand if you believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:57 PM
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What does that have to do with LMR?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 06:23 PM
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Again, when a sexually and female relationship inexperienced male tries to assert his expertise on the subject of sex, relationships, and women, the fact that he is a virgin, and thusly has no clue what he is talking about, as well as the chip on his shoulder about his position coloring his opinion on those things, is what is being mocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 09:46 PM
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No, its not. Again, a strawman is using your own definition of your opponent's argument to make it easier to debunk their argument, without actually addressing your opponent's argument. If someone were to say "Roosh started TRP. Roosh is an idiot, therefore TRP is invalid," you will would have an ad hominem. But again, simply asserting an incorrect premise is not a straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 07:01 PM
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So you're referring to calling RPers and the like "neckbeard virgins." The reason that insult exists is not to simply mock a man for being an unattractive virgin, but to mock a man with a shitty attitude toward women, who believes the reason he is unsuccessful with women is because "women only want hot, rich, jacked assholes," who, despite having little to no experience with sex, relationships, women, and the female experience, likes to assert his expertise in these areas. Its an attack on this …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 05:36 PM
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A straw man is when you intentionally use a caricature of your opponent's argument, usually represented as an outrageous and ridiculous premise that you can easily debunk. An example would be saying that those who advocate for comprehensive sex ed in schools are advocating for teenagers to have promiscuous sex, and no parent wants their teens having promiscuous sex, so therefore comprehensive sex end should not be taught in schools. Simply asserting something incorrect is not a strawman. So you …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 05:21 PM
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Bullshit. Before I was sexually active I would read about ways to be better at sex and intimacy, because when the time came I didn't want to be useless, because (surprise/surprise) I'm a human being and found the thought of sex to be appealing. According to TRP, if a girl just lays there being acted upon, she is an entitled princess. If a girl goes along, but is not acting enthusiactuc about it, she is just putting up her anti-slut defense, and you're just not alpha enough to get that cock carou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 05:13 PM
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LMR is pressuring a girl into sex. It begins with the premise that all "no's" are just a challenge to be overcome. And while some girls might find your unwillingness to take no for answer hot, and you end up having hot 50 Shades of Gray sex afterwards, this will not be the case many times. My first boyfriend pressured me like that. I ended up going a lot further than I wanted. I ended it shortly after because his behavior demonstrated that he had absolutely no regard for my wishes. It wasn't hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 05:03 PM
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That's not what a straw man is...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 03:10 AM
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Calm down. You'll give yourself a stroke.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:09 PM
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Oh honey, a subreddit, with a largely MRA agenda, making some dummy profiles on social media and then reporting their experience is not "statistics."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:53 PM
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WTF is oney, and why does oney's one experiment trump my, and many other women's personal experiences? Ahh, because it tells you what you want to hear, which means its clearly irrefutable fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:46 PM
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So you have personal experience with being on the receiving end of such behavior, correct? I mean, I have personal experience with being on the receiving end of such behavior, and my experience is very different from your 1 in 1,000 men who will behave like this upon being let down. But you clearly know more about this than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:41 PM
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If you judging someone based on past experiences with them, you are not being prejudice, because your judgment of them is not coming before (pre) your observation of their behavior or ability. If you have no past experience with someone, but are making a judgment call about their character, behavior, ability, etc... based on beliefs you have about a demographic to whom they belong, you prejudging them. You are being prejudice. As for your belief you are sooooo rational: relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:39 PM
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You're trying to split hairs, and you're not very good at it. You just told me that to pre-judge someone, that is to make a call about their behavior, ability, etc... based on a stereotype about a group to which they belong, is not the definition of prejudice, that it is a definition I made up. You're the one making up definitions of words, and hamstering away criticism of how TRP views women. And BTW, the Steve analogy is atrocious. Steve is an individual. You are making calls about his ability…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:41 PM
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If a stereotype is true, then it is not prejudice. No. Prejudice simply means pre-judging someone based on a group they belong to, or whatever, without taking into account anything about them as an individual. It is dismissing someone based on preconceived notions about the group to which they belong, regardless of how accurate that stereotype is, without taking into account that individual's actual behavior, abilities, or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:12 PM
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The Oxford English Dictionary is generally considered the authoritative source on the English language. According to that, misogyny is "Dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women." TRP has stated that women are generally morally, intellectually, and physically inferior to men in just about all regards, save for maybe child rearing abilities. That's pretty much the definition of "ingrained prejudice." You can sit here and tell me how much TRP is not about anger, but about acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:07 PM
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Careful, your misandry is starting to show. And in addition, regarding this comment, what was the point of writing of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 09:57 PM
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The first several levels of "dread game" are completely passive in nature (something guys benefit from doing, with or without a relationship), so I don't see those as being "manipulative" at all. The very nature of manipulation is that it is passive. Regardless, you assert that TRP teaches men to simply react to women "doing whatever the hell they want," when in fact there are plenty of RP tactics that teach men how to manipulate, or influence, or change, however you want to word it, women's beh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 09:46 PM
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As always, you've schooled me with your extensive, intimate knowledge of the female experience. It's clear you know what it's like to be a woman better than myself and other women do with your fact-based narratives, such as all single mothers have to do to avoid poverty is marry someone rich or collect welfare, and that being harassed online is a small price to pay for someone fawning over your selfies, which, as I stated before, is just the pinnacle of privileges a human being can experience. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 09:44 PM
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There is no confusion there. People's issue comes from your definition of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 09:11 PM
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Yet dread game, and bunch of other RP terms like that, are all about manipulating her behavior to your desire. A lot of the RP is preemptive manipulation of women so they do not have the chance to manipulate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 09:09 PM
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Yet you're still blaming women.... Simply shifting blame for your problems off of the individual woman you're dealing with to it being an intrinsic part of her femininity, AWALT, is still blaming women, but with the bonus of patting yourself on the back about how proactive and responsible you are when dealing with the problems females subject upon you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 09:05 PM
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Nope, sorry, not buying that. If the prevailing thought within TRP wa to simply take women off this pedestal of being these ethereal, gentle, flawless beings, you'd see a lot less gripes with your group. But that's not what they do. It is a very common, and very popular theme to sing the praise of superior male morality and intellectualism in comparison to that of supposed female inferiority in these aspects: Honor, dignity, respect, the truth, curiosity, etc... are all male abstracts. When a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 08:51 PM
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simultaneous majority/minority (victim/oppressor) status. Being white gives you passive social privilege but being a woman gives you coveted structural and social victim status. You think being a member of an oppressed group is "coveted," really? considered the undeniable pinnacle of Western beauty standards (which are the most prevalent in the world) The same could be said about white men. As a matter of fact, i've seen RPers brag about how gaga Asian women in Asian countries go for even the ug…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 08:47 PM
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This is what is frustrating about attempting to debate you guys. Its like you have this arsenal attacks, this one size fits all response to anyone "BP," that you completely disregard anything I wrote. I am not the one talking about morality here. OP stated that RP teaches men to blame themselves for their problems. My response, again, was more or less "No, y'all blame everyone but yourselves." TRP response, thus far has been "Nuh uh, we take action to solve our problems, yay us! Unlike the femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:49 PM
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There is no "BP" argument. There is Polyhooly's argument, and that argument is that RPers blame both women and feminized society for their problems. You firstly have the assertions that men are led to believe Disney fairy tails about women and relationships, that Marxist, feminized society teaches men to be betas, to treat women as anything other than the contemptible, feral degenerates they are. And then there is the simply passive aggressive, false acceptance of blame, jab at women for doing y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:40 PM
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Might I refer you to the title of this post: "The Red Pill teaches men to blame themselves for all their problems." My response is more or less "no, TRP certainly does not teach men to take the blame for their problems." Your response, the "Who cares who is to blame, who cares about nambly pambly morals, us RPers take action!" ::pats self on back:: is utterly irrelevant to the very statement asserted here in the title of this post. If the statement was "TRP teaches men to take responsibility for…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:29 PM
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OP stated that TRP teaches men to accept blame, also known as accepting fault, for their issues with women. This is nonsense. TRP blames women and their degenerate ways, as well as society, for their plight. The reaction of "This is how you need to change your own behavior to fit into this reality" is irelevent to the question of who is to blame for the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:13 PM
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I've found that this sub pendulates between being BP circle jerky, and RP circle jerky. Currently TRPers are holding the torch. When I come into a thread and see these straw man responses, its like what even bother trying to have a good faith debate with these people?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:53 PM
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TRP's version of blaming themselves for their plight is just a passive aggressive jab at women. "Oh it was my fault all along for not realizing that women are degenerates and should be treated as such."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:50 PM
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Shit, I just keep stumbling into TRP's circle jerks on here, presenting their "BP" arguments. Maybe one day I'll learn to knock before interrupting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:44 PM
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I joined TBP back when it had 1800 subscribers. This was before purple pill debate existed. I had never tried to post on the red pill, yet had come to find myself banned. Its utterly laughable to me that you think that the red pill entertains dissent, and only bands people if they commit infractions such as name calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:40 PM
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Your lack of self awareness is pretty astounding. There really is nothing more that can, or should be said to you at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:35 PM
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Oh, OK, I see. When your totally not an echo chamber, insular group stamps out dissent, it is for legitimate reasons, to keep the place from becoming troll central. When groups you dislike do it, its because they're enemies of free speech, too weak to handle dissent. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 06:56 PM
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I would say you're right, but I don't necessarily see anything wrong with it. Yes, even when TRP does the same exact thing, which I'm curious if you are just as indignant when they silent dissent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 06:35 PM
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I could spend all day writing a constructive manual, but it will be met with nothing but contempt because you lot want the novelty of TRP. You don't really want to self improve. You want an excuse to become a bully to those you believe have wronged you (women).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:13 PM
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Edit: Haha, look at all these downvotes. See, this is why no one beyond your echo chamber bothers with you fools. I'd also bet a good bit of money that those of you down voting and bitching me out have overwhelmingly failed to get laid even using RP tactics. You keep returning because you're addicted to rage porn. Look, a lot of the advice that TRP gives begins good and well enough. Its a lot of conclusions they draw from their interactions, as well as knowing when to just fucking stop, is where…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 03:55 PM
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Yeah, you're probably right, most of you are hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 03:34 AM
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Oops, sorry, I'll knock next time so I don't walk into y'alls circle jerk again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 12:12 AM
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I think all people, both men and women, are attracted to strong, take charge men. This is definitely a thing. Plenty of women love being chased, and want to be in a more submissive role with their male significant other. I would not say most. I think men who put themselves out there, who aren't meek, are most successful women. Of course attractive men are going to have better success than unattractive men. Not in the way you probably think. First of all, emotion is not the antithesis of logic an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:41 PM
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TRP: We're just a self help group for helping dudes get laid. In no way are we a hate group who spends 90% of our time asserting the moral, intellectual, and physical inferiority of women. Why would you blue pullers think something so ridiculous? And bad news, everyone: Jews! Blacks! Asians! Arabs! Men! Whites! Be honest. Are you really open to having anyone change your view? Are you really open to what the other side has to say? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:46 PM
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I reckon most probably have some grain of truth to them, but I think there is a lot of misinterpretation of the other parties' actions and reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 01:42 AM
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There are a lot of depressed men out there looking for answers. Plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 01:27 AM
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Dean of Duke =/= the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 11:08 PM
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Some people like to sexually touch children. TRP likes to compare themselves to those types of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 08:41 PM
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Show me any jurisdiction that says that. Please, I implore you to show me legislation from any jurisdiction that says anything along the lines that drunk sex is rape of the female party. This is rhetorical, BTW, because the law does not reflect your and other MRA/RP understanding of it. The law, in the case of intoxication and sex is referring to instances of one party being so intoxicated that they are incapacitated. They are unresponsive. We are not talking about tipsy sex, here, which is what…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 07:35 PM
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But being compared to a woman is an insult to y'all, so there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 04:20 PM
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Kind of a perfect description of TRP, yes or yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:26 PM
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But TRP says that youth and beauty are a woman's main asset, that women have little beyond that to offer, and not just the modern Western shrew, but inherent female pathology that makes women not worth being around other than for sex and light hearted companionship. So why on earth would a woman align herself with a man who feels that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 02:56 AM
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I hope you don't talk like that IRL. Actually, I do, and I'd pay to watch people's reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 06:16 PM
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The one on Jason Statham was entitled "Jason Statham's Bald Head Makes Him Sexy." How is that concealing the flaw?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 05:57 PM
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That's fine. Go for a younger woman. No one is stopping you. TRP constantly accuses women of solipcism, that is not being able to see things from anything than their own petty little world, so I advise you to consider this from the perspective of many young women: The repulsion you feel for 30 year old hags with subprime sagging vaginas is similar to how most young women feel about older men hitting on them. The fact of the matter is that when given the freedom to chose their own partner, most w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 05:51 PM
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No no no. They don't hate women, you see, they just accept them for the horrible degenerates they are, who make existence on this planet a living hell for the good, red blooded male. That's all. But they don't hate women. This is always the answer I see from many RPers when asked about the hate in that sub. Of course they (usually) don't use such language, but it always boils down to their concept of amused mastery: TRP teaches men to stop getting mad at women, accept what they are, and learn to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 05:16 PM
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Better than you ever will, pumpkin.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 05:10 PM
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No, but my guess is that instead of seeking out debate with intelligent people looking to engage in good faith debate, you look for it in intentionally hostile, inflammatory environments, like Tumblr and say "see, that's the crux of the feminist narrative!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 05:09 PM
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I guess that makes it even for you short, scrawny little twerps, the bottom 80%, as you say, that no matter how hard you try, wastes of human skin like yourself will never break out of because no woman, even the postwall hags with busted faces, want as much to do with as they want cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 02:31 AM
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Where, on Internet message boards?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 12:07 AM
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How many women's magazines do you keep up with to make such a.claim? Anyway: Fat He's 5'6 Baldy McBald Head
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 09:55 PM
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Yes........ That's totally what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 09:31 PM
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May I suggest lowering that defense shield for just a second: Mansplaining is when a man tries to explain to women women's own thoughts, actions, experiences, and feelings, while ignoring or even flat out dismissing women's input on this matter. Case in point: Yesterday illimitableman tried to explain why a woman would say "I'm not like other girls." His explanation is that its because women realize how shitty, degenerate, whatever, women are, and are (foolishly) trying to differentiate themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 09:11 PM
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My husband and I, both feeeeeminists, are going on 11 years together. But what does little old me know about making a relationship work compared to such a expert on women and relationships like yourself, as evident by your admitted past of a slew of failed LTRs, and your current status as casual sex god, bragging on the Internet that the only voluntary interaction you have with women these days is fucking your "plates."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 08:44 PM
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Can you elaborate on what you think those concepts are meant when feminists use them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 08:07 PM
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Yes, American, and I had to fight for that six weeks. Which was unpaid, BTW.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 04:51 PM
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How long do you think the average working woman takes away from work due to pregnancy? I got six weeks off. Six weeks. Six weeks out of what will most likely be a decades long career. I know men who have taken more time off than that due to back pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 04:36 AM
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Or it could have something to do with the fact that women are taught from a very young age that there is something inherently inferior and pathological about being a female. I remember being in kindergarten and being told "you can't do that because you're a girl," "girls aren't good at that," "you're pretty good at that... for a girl," as well as the old derisive "you _____ like a girl." LOL, just kidding, its because women are degenerates, and any female who doesn't want to be associated with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:36 PM
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Ooh, I'm feeling a bit bitchy today, so here you go: There are probably a few types of RPers. The Awkward Aspie: This guy had Pokemon bedsheets well into high school. He has never really related well to anyone, especially girls, whom he views as similar to himself as a cardboard box. TRP appeals to him because it offers an explanation of everything he has always failed to understand. But because of his social handicaps, he has no way to critically evaluate the information being sold to him. He j…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 04:04 PM
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I completely agree with you, but what you just wrote is not the general consensus among red pillers. The majority seem to think introspection, critical thinking, and self awareness are virtues exclusive to the Y chromosome.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 07:02 PM
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After my first date the guy stopped talking to me because even though I was "gorgeous," I was so "nervous and awkward" that it made him "uncomfortable." For a member of a group who bags on women for being so-called solipcistic, that is unable to see things from any perspective but their own, you guys sure like to define women's experiences for them, and regardless of what anyone says, they always seem to conveniently confirm your biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:37 PM
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If you subscribe to RP theory, it says that men and women want different things out of sex and relationships, because men and women are inherently different. OK, if that's true, you are judging women's experience when it comes to sex and relationships from the perspective of a man. TRP says that men just want to get their dicks wet from the hottest girl possible, but, if necessary, getting your dick wet from a girl who is not an HB8 or above is desirable to a dry dick. Your theory says that wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 02:58 PM
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And how exactly do you quantify the market value the work an at home spouse does? Your approach is a rather austistic view of a relationship that will end up in nothing but resentment. You see, my argument is predicated on the stay at home spouse not sitting on their ass all day, Facebooking their friends who say "guuuurl, you don't have to clean up for any man," but rather someone who does a satisfactory job at keeping up. If a working spouse believes their at home spouse is not pulling their w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 07:32 PM
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What does that have anything to do with what I wrote? You basically wrote, in novel length, that working spouses should have no obligation to do any domestic duties if they have an at home spouse, because more or less you feel it is not their job. And now you're somehow on a rant about "well, but what if the at home spouse isn't doing any work, and alimony and stuff?" That has nothing to do with the argument about if working spouses should help out with domestic duties or not if they have an at …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:41 PM
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When the spouse who works outside of the home leaves work, that is often it for their job. They can come home and relax from the tasks and stresses of their job. For the at-home spouse, there is no downtime from their work. There is no gettinh away. After dinner is eaten, there are dishes to do. There are toys to pick up. There is laundry to finish, etc... Any spouse who works outside of the home who is worth their salt will not turn to the at home spouse, who is still going at their job at 9pm,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 06:20 PM
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When I stayed at home, all I asked of my husband was to tidy up after himself, for example dirty clothes go into the hamper, not on the ground where you take them off. If you eat something, put your dishes into the sink, not leaving them on your desk. He never really got the hang of it. He also dragged the trashcan to the end of the driveway on trashday and mowed the grass. I tried my best to keep a clean house and have dinner ready every night, but with a young child, those things sometimes fel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 04:52 PM
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"If it doesn't confirm my bias, it doesn't count!"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 08:34 PM
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You really shouldn't talk about things you have no idea about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 08:31 PM
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I suspect you have similar advice for young men his age and younger who assert expertise in women, relationships, and sex when their observations happen to fall in line with the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 06:07 PM
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TRP is for immature men, plain and simple. That's why the majority of red pillers seem to be teenagers or early 20 somethings, with the odd older gentleman thrown in there, the ones who thinks chasing around teenage and early 20 something year old girls at bars and similar venues sounds like an exciting time, aka immature men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 06:05 PM
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RPers can't imagine any sort of relationship with a woman without trying to fuck her, so they project that onto the both of them. Regardless of the actual situation, they'll feel smug that they're better than them: she fucked him? Slut! She didn't fuck him? What a pathetic beta!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 08:40 PM
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You have somehow turned someone telling you that online anecdotes cannot be taken as tested, verifiable gospel into men being persecuted for discussing their experiences. Of course you can discuss what ever it is you want, but dont be surprised when people call bullshit on things you want to assert as stone cold fact solely based on your hob knobbing with other people online.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:16 PM
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Meanwhile, when you generalize about us, you are constantly looking for validation. Challengining someone's ideas by attempting to engage them in debate is now "looking for validation?" Meanwhile, TBP's generalizations are are made for the purpose of ridicule. They're jokes intended to shame and sting(fedora-man, neckbbeard, virgin, etc, etc). When a socially outcasted man with little to no experience with women, sex, and relationships starts pontificating about his theories on these things, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:10 PM
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Conflict =/= competition. But I would agree that those two strategies are conflicting, but that most people either do not subscribe to them at all, or that they are not as rigid of goals as you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 05:27 PM
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I'm sorry I failed to give you anything that confirms your suspicions. How ridiculous of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 05:26 PM
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What is there to retort? Your responses have been nothing but insults and things that have absolutely nothing to do with anything I wrote, so at this point I'm just trolling you because anything beyond that with you is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:41 AM
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I know we have to always dumb down our phrases for emotional feminists Yes, I'm the one being emotional here, definitely not the guy who got so offended that he had to resort to personal insults just because I said TRP has a history of shitting itself in a fit of rage over some women's appearances. There aren't any "angry rants" about short-haired women. Oh bless your little heart. However, if you want to be attractive to men, you should grow your hair long and quit with the whining. LOL, no. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:14 AM
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Bands: Sigur Ros, Pink Floyd, Beirut, Fleet Foxes, Trampled by Turtles Movies: Amelie, Pan's Labrynth, Pulp Fiction, Rear Window, Finding Nemo TV: Arrested Development, I Love Lucy, Breaking Bad, True Blood, Cutthroat Kitchen RP Scale: 0/10
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:31 AM
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Except they're not: Article. Pull your head out of your echo chamber that loves to hate masturbate over all the alleged sex young women are having with men that aren't you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:11 AM
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Yeah... I know thats what you're arguing... I'm challenging it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 03:37 AM
3

What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 03:36 AM
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How were you not able to garner a clear "no" from my comments? I'm not deflecting from any truth, you just suck at picking up on subtly. I forget things need to be clearly spelled out for some of you to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 03:36 AM
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Well that's a crock of pseudoscience shit, but aside from that what is that resource, that same resource, that men and women are both after here? It seems you guys are having a hard time either understanding or just plain answering the question. In order to have a competition, you have to have two or more parties conpetitng for the same resource. Let me reiterate that: the same resource. When it comes.to men and women in hetereosexual pairings, there is not a limited resource they are both tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:15 PM
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I thought I made that pretty clear: when it comes to my appearance, what titiallates men out and about is not a consideration of mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:14 PM
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A competition is when two or more parties are competiting for the same resource. Again, what is that same resource that men and women are competing against each other for?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 10:13 PM
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Considering all the angry rants on how disgusting short hair is on women, and the theories they have about the character of women who have short hair, its comical to me that you think RP men simply pay no mind to women who do not conform to their standards of beauty. RPers like to tout themselves as amused masters who give no shits when it comes to those they feel are a waste of their time, when in fact they spend more time on obsessing over the affairs of those who don't concern them than teena…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:25 PM
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You are supporting my point. Take your employers and prospective employees example. Employers are not in competition with prospective employees. Prospectives employees are in a compeition with other prospective employees. When it comes to sex, men are in competition with each other for tge limited resource of female attention. Again, what is the limited resource that men and women are competing against each other for?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:20 PM
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Men are not in competition with women to propagate their genes. Men are in competition with other men. You are really confused about who your enemy is. And its not quite that simple to say crappy genes get destroyed and good genes live on. That's a fundamental misunderstanding of biology. Good genes can certainly be destroyed, and shitty genes propagated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:26 PM
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Bull sharks pups are competing with each other for limited food resources. What limited resources are men and women, when it comes to sex, in competition with each other over? Men are in competition with each other for the limited resource of sexual attention from women, and vice versa, but you have failed to explain how it is a competition between men and women. If anything, you described more of a predator/prey relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:19 PM
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What are you competing against women for? What evolutionary benefit would be served by having two complimentary forces that require each other, to be in competition with each other for resources? In actuality, if you're in competition with anyone, its other men for the attention of women. The fact that you view women as competition, as some sort of enemy that needs conquered, speaks to just how socially inept RP ideology is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 06:33 PM
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This is kind of a bizarre question because what is attractive can be subjective, but in terms of what is considered mainstream attractive, I just cut my hair to chin length, I use an eyebrow pencil to make my brows appears thicker and darker, and some days I can rock more androgynous looks. Just the shorter hair alone is enough to.make a RP man shit himself in a fit of anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 06:24 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 05:54 PM
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Whoa, that's not at all what she said. You took it as her saying that she would never follow the lead of a man just because he is a man, like she has an inherent disrespect for men. What she is saying is that she would never follow the lead of a man just because he is a man. In life, we all take the role of follower and leader sometimes. TRP argues that men are better suited at leading than women, that no man should ever be subjected to female leadership, and to that we call bullshit. Its intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 01:08 PM
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The fact of the matter is that you can virtually never ensure that you won't be cheated on. What you can do is foster a healthy relationship with someone who is willing to do the same. TRP is a toxic ideology that is steeped in fear and anxiety. Anxiety is triggered by the feeling of loss of control. You cannot approach a relationship with fear and anxiety because those things will consume you. There will never be smooth sailing, you will always be on edge, over analyzing every little thing, eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 12:52 PM
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.... I've never once seen any Blue Pillers argue that women who have higher partner counts are better at sex, and I implore you to show me where anyone has.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 12:48 AM
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They need something to snark it out on or whatever way females and feminine men rage about things. I don't know what I would do if reality offended me the way it does to them taiboworks: "seems like red pillers are pretty offended by reality based on all their anger and hate." I don't think offended is the right word... I don't know, enraged maybe. So when females and feminine men rage, it is because they are offended by reality. When RPers are "enraged," it is for legitimate reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:26 PM
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No, I'm aware many of your desire "sluts," and a lot of your rage and perceieved injustice about the world comes from being upset these sluts weren't extending their sluttiness to you. You feel like you should have the upper hand because of the contempt you hold her in. Why should a slut have so much power over you? Just like any insecure bully, you attempt to devalue these "sluts," in order to make you feel better about yourself. If you don't want a girl with a high partner count, and find that…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 05:28 PM
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When RPers rage, its for legitimate reasons. When females and feminine men rage, they're just being silly and irrational. I have some bad news about your self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 05:19 PM
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Oh honey, no, that's not why we're so fascinated with you. Some of you genuinely frighten me, but for the most part, I take pleasure in watching and laughing at a bunch of hateful, sexless, whiny dorks trying really hard to be hard ass alphas, and asserting things about the female experience, psyche, sexuality, and relationships in general. Its like when Napoleon Dynamite is talking to Pedro about what women want in a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 05:16 PM
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Everybody loves a train wreck. Some people get their fix with celebrity gossip or reality TV. I get mine with the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:50 AM
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But that's not what TRP does. RPers do not simply disregard the behaviors of men in favor of discussing and analyzing those of women and how to attract them. TRP certainly does consider and analyze the behavior of men. TRP is constantly pitting the supposed behaviors of women against the supposed behaviors of men, and making value judgements about men versus women (which, of course, always concludes with men being touted as morally and intellectually superior to women).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 01:36 PM
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CuteFemaleCorpses is a shock and fringe subreddit for a handful of complete weirdos with that fetish. TRP is a quickly growing group that sucks in depressed, impressionable young men and teaches them to hate and fear women even more than they already do. So I'm going to go with TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 04:04 AM
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I've never been under the delusion that women are perfect, ethereal beings capable of doing no wrong. Of course there are some shitty women out there who take advantage of and hurt men. There are plenty of women who do what you listed above. But I could also write an equivalent list of similar things men do to fuck over women. The base behavior is the same, but it may manifest differently due to gender roles. My advice? Cut toxic people out of your life instead of trying to go to toe to toe with…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 02:11 PM
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Never just give a girl your number. Ask her for hers, first, and then give yours only if she asks.) What decade are you from? Don't most people just ask for someone's number and then text them so they have each others numbers these days? Over all, whisper, I actually do agree with your advice. Here are my issues with it: This showed sureness of your sexual power.... You drew the "no sex" line, which puts you in control. Instead of letting her put on the brakes, you put them on and make her work …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 10:51 PM
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But content like his makes up a substantial portion of TRP. It always has. So why align yourself with a movement that largely condones and supports that sort of stuff, and then get confused when people associate you with those beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 09:28 PM
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You're not interested in reason, you want your opinion validated without actually giving any response to the person speaking to you. With whom do I seek to have my opinion validated? My response to him is basically his assessment of TRP is pie in the sky bullshit, more of a glossed over marketing ploy that refuses to acknowledge the very real nature of TRP. You being solipsistic Oh Jesus Christ, spare me. Within the RP's purposefully isolated, completely unadvertised but not coincidentally not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 09:21 PM
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Here's one of my favorites Tl;dr : Women are degenerates.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 08:44 PM
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This is a great PR write up for TRP, but reality simply doesn't match what you have described here. RPers are constantly making value and moral judgments about people, particularly women in regards to sex, behavior in relationships, and general every day behavior. The reason so many people have an issue with TRP is not because you guys are discussing how to find love/sex, but because of the pervasivness of asserting that women are morally and intellectually inferior to men, and should be treated…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 08:02 PM
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I think you've nailed it, but I'd like to elaborate on your point, because I see a lot of RPers being hung up on you calling them angry: I simply don't buy that the anger stage is only just a stage. TRP is a virulently hateful ideology. Anger and hate go hand in hand. You don't have hate without anger, and sorry, RPers, there is little you can do to convince me TRP is not a hateful ideology. You say you're not angry, but you fail to consider how your initial anger has just morphed into you becom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 07:02 PM
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The whole "TRP, sexual strategy is amoral" thing is just a shield to deflect criticism. Essentially saying that we're just giving you the pure, unadulterated facts, doesn't mean you actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 06:52 PM
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If only most of the commenters here had half as much self awareness as they have strawmans. Let's be real, here. The general consensus among RPers that "we're the only ones with sound and good faith arguments here" is nothing but a circle jerk. Just like there are BP trolls and BPers who can't debate worth a shit, the same could be said about RPers. Many of the BPers who did come here for good faith, honest debate leave because the unwillingness of some RPers to acknowledge when they have been p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 05:43 PM
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Two sides of the same extremist coin. There are more ways to communicate with a woman than being either a brown nosing doormat and yes man, or being a condescending ass by projecting your insecurities on her, "taking her down a peg" because she intimidates you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 04:25 AM
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MFW
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 06:45 PM
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You'd fit right into her clique.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 03:00 PM
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Someone's feeling a bit sassy today. Regina George ain't got shit on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 02:45 PM
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Next time I'm having a shitty day at work I'm telling my boss that I get a free pass to be shit at my job since its not the only thing I'm required to do really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 01:53 PM
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Hypothetical you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 08:45 PM
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Because there are better ways to deal with whatever has lead you to TRP: rejection, fear of rejection, generally low self esteem, whatever, than joining an echo chamber that circle jerks over how women are morally, intellectually, and physically inferior to you, they're basically pieces of shit, but unfortunately you want to fuck them. As for refuting their claims, it is done all the time. I'm pretty sure /r/badhistory has even asked people to stop linking to TRP because it's such low hanging fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 05:01 PM
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If that's how you justify it to yourself...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 05:12 AM
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Considering my husband is under six foot, and sexy as hell, it's clearly not a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 05:10 AM
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Does being this angry exhaust you, or does it fuel you? Like, for introverts, being social is exhausting, but for extroverts, they feel energized by social interaction. I've just always been curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 04:52 AM
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I like almost an effeminate body type is what I'm trying to say. If I wanted a big strong body guard, I would go for more bulky builds. Lol, women. Are you trying to paint me as hypocritical? You fail. I mean what I said. I'm attracted to tall men, but ultimately it is not a deal breaker if a man does not possess that trait, because height is not that big of a deal to me. Some men may prefer large breasts, but would not be unattracted to a woman with smaller breasts. Another example is that I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 04:36 AM
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I love tall men. 6'2, 6'3, 6'4 are very attractive to me... but I also like them to be skinny and lanky, so about that whole "stronger" thing... Height, however, is ultimately not that big of a deal to me. The first guy I ever dated was 5'6.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 04:22 AM
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There can be a myriad of reasons why someone may not report someone who attacks them. Chalking it up to a child-like inability or refusal to take responsibility for your situation demonstrates a gross misunderstanding of being a victim of violence, and total lack of sympathy for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 11:18 PM
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Plenty of women do go to the police. Plenty of women do leave abusive men. If you think the fact that some women fear going to the police or to leave an abusive relationship is justification for condescending treatment of someone just because of their gender, you are using the same excuse as those who justify rape, which is that women are inferior to men and should be treated as such. What about men who don't report women who abuse or even rape them? If you use stats frequently quoted by MRA, me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 10:44 PM
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I never claimed it has been fixed. I want to know why whoever I was replying to thinks "but feminists are racist, too!" is a satisfactory rebuttal to criticisms of racism (from a black woman by the way, not white feminists) in the MRM.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 09:56 PM
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How can you claim that promiscuity is not a sexual strategy for some women? We wouldn't be having this conversation if there weren't women out there whose sexual strategy is promiscuity. You're telling me on one hand sluts exist, and should be reprimanded for their behavior, and on the other hand they don't exist, because women's sexual strategy is to bag a man with resources and good genes, not to sleep around. And you have misunderstood the notion of "preselection." Women will often go for a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 09:53 PM
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Sexual strategy is defined as getting laid with who you desire to fuck. If a woman just wants to get laid, why would "hypergamy" matter? The notion of hypergamy is a LTR strategy, not one when it comes to promiscuous sex. Remember, as TRP says: women are the gatekeepers of sex, men of commitment. l think what you and other RPers struggle to understand is that there are women who do want NSA sex. So keeping in line with TRP's definition of sexual strategy, that is sexing whom you desire, which TR…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 05:37 PM
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That's always been a very prevalent criticism of feminism that many feminists have even acknowledged about the movement. So do you have any rebuttal to the accusation of MRA ignoring issues faced by men of color other than saying "But feminists...?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 04:34 PM
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So eating candy is OK, as long as you don't get fat because that's bad. Being promiscuous is OK, a long as you don't.... what? Yeah, not following your analogy here. You say sexual strategy is amoral, then tell me how certain behaviors are out of line, and how you'll have "choice words" for those who violate your standards of behavior. That sounds like a moral judgement to me. You're admitting that sexual strategy is not amoral. So going fron there, what gives you the moral authority to police p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 04:21 PM
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Men and women are different, blah blah blah. That's fine and all, but the question TRP has always failed to answer for me is why do they find it acceptable to berate and denigrate promiscuous women? Again, if you do not personally prefer to have a female partner with a promiscuous past, that is fine, but for a group of men who tout the idea that "sexual strategy is amoral," you sure like to make value judgements on promiscuous women. Not just as partners for you, but as human beings. Take your e…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 01:16 PM
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But that's not your complaint, was it? Your complaint was that she was not giving it up, despite sending you sexy pics, not that she was failing to have an intellectual conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 09:24 PM
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So going "full alpha" is getting a girl so disgusted by your behavior that she ends the conversation with you, and your dick stays dry?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 04:20 AM
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She's saying she doesn't want casual sex, but is still flirting. That's pretty clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 04:18 AM
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If this works most of the time, and you get laid. A lot. Why are you flipping shit and dwelling on the apparently odd behavior of this one girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 04:15 AM
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If she wanted just attention and validation, she wouldnt have ended the conversation with you, basically telling you to fuck off. She was into you and was trying to flirt with you, then you had to go screw it up by being crass and disrespectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 04:14 AM
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Don't fucking believe it, then. I'm not digging through hundreds of pages and thousands of comments. As to rule changes, the Mods were being very lenient on enforcing the existing rules. Many RPers I was conversing with were just calling names and circle jerking. It was a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 12:59 AM
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So a girl who tells a guy "she's not like that," meaning willing to have casual sex, who tells a guy to stop when he is pushing her in the direction, eventually ends the conversation, and does not have sex with him, is a slut? Of FFS. This is just about calling her names, punishing her for denying what he thought he was entitled to because she has bikini pictures on her profile. It's a tantrum, like a spoiled child, because he (which you clearly relate to) didn't get his way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 11:02 PM
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Stop being a smart ass and just tell me what you mean. Like what? Slutty? Sexually promiscuous? I'm trying to not put words into your mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 10:42 PM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 10:20 PM
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I've been on this sub for about a year and a half, maybe even two years, now. I'm sorry I don't log and index every comment ever made to me. I did leave PPD for a while, like a year ago, until some changes were made to the rules. If you want to dig through some of the conversations I had on here over a year ago, be my guest, because they occurred on this sub. If you don't want to believe me, go ahead. I'm a lot of things, but a liar is not one of them. I do, however, encourage you to look at the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 03:53 PM
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I've been personally insulted by several RPers for being a SAHM. I've been personally told on several occasions that I should worship my husband, who is out doing important man things while I sit my allegedly fat ass at home. TRP has also done many wrote ups about how mind numbingly simplistic being a SAHM is (true, it is not rocket science, but their intention was to denigrate the role) and that women who aspire to being SAHMs are just gold digging whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 05:43 PM
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I've seen many RPers say that respect is earned, not given, and reprimand women for expecting respect "just because they have a pussy." Are you suggesting that men should be afforded respect just by virtue of being men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 09:43 PM
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You need to get your shit together, man. You are a fucking mess. Your response to everyone here has just been you lashing out at things no here has said to you, or even remotely implied. You are sticking your fingers in your ears saying "lalala I can't hear because you're a bunch of feminist man haters who think women can do no wrong, defending what they did," WHEN NO ONE HAS FUCKING DONE THAT. Your behavior here even seems borderline.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 06:00 PM
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I did not defend them cheating on you. I wrote that the way you are wording it, it sounds as if they ended the relationship first. You said they dropped you then went out to screw. And it's becoming clear why they do drop you. You're a mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 05:41 PM
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But they do, because sometimes the actual identity of the anonymous person you're conversing with over the internet is relevant to the discussion. But you do bring up a great discussion point. You are indeed assumed to be a man on the internet. However, this does not create some equal playing field, some genderless internet where you are only judged by the content of your contributions, this just creates an environment intended to make women feel unwelcomed, where you feel you are rightfully tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 05:39 PM
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To be fair, I think its more that people with high standards know when to cut loose low standard people, not necessarily that they don't attract them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 03:32 PM
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So they "dropped you in an instant" and then "screwed around." That doesn't sound like cheating, to me. That sounds like you got dumped, and are seething at your exes for now having sex with guys who aren't you. That is sour grapes and slut shaming, and comes off as really desperate, needy, and even unhinged. Did these girls even know they were supposed to be in a relationship with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 03:29 PM
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So when RPers go to RPW women and write "As a man..." does that mean everyone should stop what they're doing and listen because a man, a man I tell you, is talking, and let him win the argument just because he's clearly an authority?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 03:19 PM
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I'd say more of a "you can't change others, but you can change how you react to them."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 03:12 PM
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Yes, they should have ended the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 03:10 PM
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Alimony is rare, only awarded it about 12% of US divorces. That means 88% of divorced men do not pay alimony. That means 88% of divorced women do not receive it. Also, around 1/4 of kids who have been awarded CS never see a dime of it, and about 2/3 only see intermittent payments. Sure, you can say women are irrational... if you're using vague, made up stats to paint them that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 02:53 PM
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For a group who repeatedly touts the notion that "sexual strategy is amoral," you sure sound like you're passing moral and value judgements on women who engage in promiscuous sex. So what if sex is easier for women to get? Why is bad and wrong, why should she be condemned for partaking and enjoying it with multiple partners other than you don't like it? Its perfectly reasonable for you to personally not prefer to be with a promiscuous woman. I would never want to be with a promiscuous man. But y…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 02:46 PM
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You have some really bizarre friends, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 02:55 AM
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That's absurd, and no one believes that. You're going to tell me that you were in a monogamous relationship, that a girl cheated on you, and everyone cheered her on and said you can't be upset about it because that would be "slut shaming?" Please. So are you going to tell us what happened or not? Who "reamed" you? Why did they "ream" you? Specifically, what was the reason for "reaming" you? What, specifically, were their reasons for defending her? There are a lot of details here you're not being…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 02:48 AM
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React like what React combatively to someone who is not being combative with you. You're a blue piller, you don't believe women are capable of anything but perfection, so obviously I did something heinous right? Oh knock it off. Stop being so dramatic. I am interested in you detailing the situation where someone who cheated on you received sympathy and you were demonized.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 02:42 AM
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It sounds like you already have your mind made up. You are not interested in anyone's advice, you are interesting in being combative, as just about all of your responses have been snarky straw men. The advice I gave you completely acknowledged that there are plenty of people (and I do include women when I talk about "people") who are more than happy to take advantage of and abuse others, and I specifically wrote that one of the red flags of a poor partner that you need to learn to recognize earl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 02:37 AM
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You asked a question about your personal life, so for context, I read some of you other comments discussing your personal life to better answer your question... That's not stalking. Do you react like this in your relationships? And I don't have contempt for men. I have contempt for Red Pillers because I find their ideology despicable. Red Pillers =/= men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 02:29 AM
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There are a lot of shitty people out there who are willing to treat you like shit and take advantage of you if you let them. There are a lot of people out there who will take, take, take, but refuse to give. My problem with TRP is that they teach men that this is standard female behavior, that all relationships are like this. Some women are cheated on by their boyfriends/husbands. Some women are beaten by them. Do you think it is reasonable for women to be taught that cheating and abuse is inher…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 01:46 AM
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Typical RPer: Refuse to answer the question, which is "do you think it is reasonable advice to tell poor women in India that if they don't want to be forced into unsafe abortions, to simply not get pregnant?" Instead, like a typical TRPer, you are feigning indignation, calling me names because I mentioned the very well documented occurence of women being raped and law enforcement and the community ignoring it, or worse, punishing her for being attacked in India as proof that "don't get pregnant"…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 06:01 PM
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I want you to really stop and think about why you responded to me the way you did. Do you think your example negates the countless examples of mobs raping women and law enforcement and the community turning the other cheek, or worse, punishing the woman for being attacked in India? That your example is even relevant to the overall point that women in India are often subjected to violations of their bodily autonomy against their will, so doling out the advice that they should simply refrain from …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 04:00 AM
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I don't have a question, I was just responding to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 02:27 AM
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Oh, so it's as simple as that: Poor women who have little to no access to effective birth control, who live in very oppressive cultures where the response to rape is, at best, people looking the other way, if you don't want to have to have an unsafe abortion, just don't get pregnant!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 01:57 AM
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Did you need some lube for that circle jerk?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 03:34 PM
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RP "dread game" is playing games. Its being passive aggressive. To me, that sort of behavior is kid shit. It's immature and just obnoxious. Instead of trying to make your wife jealous of all the pussy you could be having by talking about how sexy your female coworker looked today, or whatever method TRP advises, why not be a straight shooter and say to your wife: Our sex life sucks. Its really wearing on me and the relationship. Something needs to change or there is going to be more stress in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 03:33 PM
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Its standard "female MO" to think that your philiosphy on female relationships is largely you projecting your own hateful attitude onto others? Alright then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 09:02 PM
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I think you're projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 08:13 PM
2

I like that term for complaining: accepting a negative reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 08:12 PM
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Funny, that's exactly how I view RPers. You're complaining right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 02:03 PM
3

In middle school. Or maybe I just don't surround myself with terrible people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 02:01 PM
1

You're mistaken if you think I'm the angry one here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 08:03 PM
1

Keep avoiding the question, but I already know the answer. And yes, I am 28, and its hilarious to me what a bunch of pissed off rejects trying to make themselves feel better that women, even us old fogeys, would never touch you with a 10 foot pole, have to say about that because your dumb little fantasy couldn't be further from the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 04:37 PM
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You failed to reply to the one comment I really wanted to see you reply to: And what exactly are your credentials,your evidence that any of what you posit to be the emotional and social experiences of most women puberty through middle age, again, other than your elaborate fantasy that ends with your villains getting their come uppance, is indeed fact? Because you say its the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 03:36 PM
2

People don't expect much out of them. I love when people view me as incompetent and underestimate me. Such privilege. What you have written here, which is a common RP narrative, is nothing but an absurd straw man of what you think to be the life of the average women. It's nothing but a fantasy cooked up to patronize and demonize women, and make a martyr out of yourself and other men (i.e. you have never had to work as hard and suffer as hard as me!). But in the end it's all easy for you to swall…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 01:15 AM
1

LOL, oh lord. Don't call a group this guy associates with "insecure," lest full meltdown mode be unleashed upon you. Seriously, you're failing hard at this frame thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 12:50 AM
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So I guess writing an abrasive, non-sugar coated take down of a group with whom you have issues, including reducing them to children (which I never did, but the fact that you and prettylatebloomer keep trying to shove those sentiments in my mouth shows just how insecure you are about that) is something only you and your ilk are allowed to do? The question asked was what TRP is to me, and that's exactly what you and the majority of RPers are to me: a bunch of insecure men looking to take women do…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 03:33 AM
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I didn't write that you are a pathetic failure at life. You words, not mine. I wrote that I believe that RPers largely feel underachieving and out of control, namely when it comes to women. Sorry that I wasn't naturally gifted in this arena. I guess because of my childhood, maybe? I don't know, for whatever reason, I never really knew how to successfully sexually pursue girls. Yeah, that's what I thought. I can assure you that I'm not a "bad" person, whatever that is. Maybe not, but you certainl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 12:18 AM
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TRP is made up largely of boys and men who feel out of control and underachieving in their lives (with some genuine antisocial personalities sprinkled in here and there) who are desperate to take control of their lives. The biggest source of their feelings of no control and inadequacy is their relationships with females. Some have been hurt by girls, some have had zero interaction, some are afraid of losing what they have. In order to feel more in control, like a big masculine man, they dehumani…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 07:59 PM
1

You might as well have just called me a butthead poop face. You might as well just call anyone you disagree with butthead poop faces because that's about the maturity level of your comments, and about as much regard as I give them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 08:05 PM
4

Hello cognitive dissonance! I like how, in order to make this counter example of TRP theory somehow confirm your beliefs, you have decided to add your own narrative of this couple's relationship, a couple whom you don't even know and have little information on, that she really secretly resents him and doesn't have sex with him. So you really believe this is a valid, rational rebuttal that anyone will take seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 05:01 PM
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There's plenty of advice out there on how to become a "winner" without TRP. I'm not going to waste my time repeating something that has been repeated ad nauseum, because you guys always reject it for one key reason. TRP teaches you to channel your loserness, your feelings of powerlessness and frustration, into bullying. That's the novelty you're attracted to. The fact that there are plenty of men, and no, not all are rich and or look like [insert sexy male celebrity here], who get sex and/or hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 03:43 PM
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Way to completely miss the point. I'm basically trying to paraphrase many of the attributes you listed. Yes, most of what you listed are good things to do when on the market for a partner/s. TRP does not have a monopoly on such advice. The issue people have with TRP, the reason TBP exists, is because of the downright hateful and vulgar regard in which you guys hold women: women are morally and intellectually inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 01:40 PM
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You are severely confused about why people object to TRP if you think such innocuous and universal advice like work on your appearance and health, develop hobbies, interests, and a personality, strive toward personal and financial achievement, and grow a goddamned backbone, are what people have an issue with. Its not. Do all those things. Its the whole women are morally and intellectually inferior to men, and you will treat them as such, that people have an issue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 12:56 PM
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So basically you hate your mom and project those feelings onto other women...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/14 03:28 PM
1

That was an insult. Insults are not inherently ad hominem. An ad hominem is when you fail to address your opponent's argument and attack something about them in attempt to discredit them. In your case, saying he/she is a BPer, and BPers don't know how to argue, therefore their argument is invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/14 03:23 PM
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Thats essentially what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/14 03:20 PM
0

Complaining about a strawman/ad hominem by responding with an ad hominem. Lulz. BTW, learn what an ad hominem is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/14 12:01 PM
1

To humanity...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/14 06:08 AM
0

What do you mean "to whom?"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/14 02:59 AM
4

Men and women are of equal value. As is the case when you pit two different groups together in any arbitrary metric, you are likely to see intergroup variation: black versus white, poor versus rich, East versus West, Jewish versus non-Jewish, left handed versus right handed, male versus female, etc.... When strictly speaking of inherent capability, just about all differences between men and women have been shown to be small at best, with environment playing a huge factor in many results. Time af…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 08:37 PM
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One of BP's main arguments is predicated on the idea that a woman would not cheat or 'trade up' No its not. Women can, and do dump and/or cheat on their significant other for whatever reason. The RP argument is that all, or most women at least, will do this at the drop of a hat if the right alpha cock came along. As I mentioned on here recently, I, along with other BPers, have been told by RPers here that given the chance, I would totally cheat on my husband. I just need someone to out gina ting…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 06:16 PM
1

That's hilarious you think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 04:09 PM
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You have misread trp...The actual trp claim is that women are different, not inferior Oh really? I would love to know what I have misread, or misinterpreted about highly up voted posts that literally say women are inferior to men. But before I paste a portion of what I call "The Best of the Worst of TRP: September 2014 Addition," let me address the latter portion of your comment here. they do shit like leech on the govt/cock carousel etc because they can, and have an incentive to. I prob would t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 07:35 PM
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Your first mistake is assuming TRP, as well as TBP, are coherent theories. TRP's "theory" is anything that paints women as villains. For example one minute they will largely endorse women being stay at home moms/homemakers, and the next minute deride those women as lazy leeches. TRP is a hate group. I used to be really interested in racial surpremacists groups, particularly white nationalists and the Nation of Islam (black surpremacist group). Their "theories" about the world, about the groups t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 01:01 PM
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So now we're talking about the ability to get random stranger sex walking down the street and not a woman's loyalty in a relationship, because I could have sworn we were discussing the notion of hypergamy in the context of marriage and relationships, specifically in regards to economic status?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 08:10 PM
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The quote is "men are only as faithful as their options." Funny how you failed to mention that he was talking about male hypergamy, which flies in the face of TRP's belief that loyalty and unconditional love are "male abstracts."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 08:03 PM
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Yeah, I know that this is what you and TRP believe. I'm saying this is what people object to, not the notion that women have, and still often do, consider their prospective husband's economic/social status more than he may consider her''s.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 07:51 PM
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Because what she's talking about, and what "men," which you are using synonymously with TRP, is not the same. I have said it many times before that TRP will start off with a kernal of truth... then go batshit bizarre from there. There is no denying that traditionally, and even in many modern cases, a man's economic/social status is highly considered, more so then women's, in relationships. Where TRP gets criticized is with these assertions that: This is largely, if not strictly inherent behavior…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 07:32 PM
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Guy 1 got a lot of media attention because his looks do defy his background. He's nothing but a novelty. He is conventionally attractive, more so than guy 2. I can see that. But the question is not which guy is more conventionally attractive, its who can get more women to sleep with them, and in my opinion, there probably is no winner. Both could get lots of sex, but definitely not from the same type of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 10:59 AM
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The both could probably get the same amount. The difference between them is that they're not pulling from the same pool of women. Me personally, I'd take the second guy in a heartbeat over the first one. The first guy could probably get more, well for lack of a better term, trashy women. The second guy would pull in more educated, middle class and above women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 10:36 AM
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Am I correct in gathering that you think women are lying at not being aroused?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 10:24 AM
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Thanks for the apology. I'm on a pictocin drip wanting to gouge my eyes out right now, so sorry for mine as well. I'm really not bullshitting. When my mom got her first job out of high school in 1972, she had to get her dad's signature to open her bank account.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/14 04:54 PM
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And here are some quick citations for you: http://www.npr.org/2011/04/27/135764464/the-nation-financial-reform-could-hurt-women http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/07/living/sixties-women-5-things/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/14 04:51 PM
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Then ask for a citation instead of being a pissy, passive aggressive little punk.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/14 04:45 PM
1

Grouchy polyhooly, disregard
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/14 04:28 PM
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This is a silly question. Why do you think the "blue pill" position is one of total disrespect, disregard, and hostility toward your partner? I would say this attitude displayed is more of a RP position, but with the genders swapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/14 12:42 AM
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I frequently orgasm during exercise. I orgasmed giving birth. There is nothing sexual about it. My guess is that just from physiological response alone, if you were to do a brain scan on me, you may see areas of sexual arousal light up in my head, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/14 07:02 PM
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It's fine to be concerned with your partner's sexual past. I know I would most certainly prefer any man I am in a relationship with to not have had a high partner count. It's just a part of my values, and sharing values is an important part of a relationship. What people have a problem with in regards to TRP's opinion on partner are these sentiments expressed: A woman's partner count reflects upon her value as a human being. A man's partner count is virtually irrelevant, if anything, the higher …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/14 01:27 AM
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Yes, I do. If he were RP, I'd feel like I failed him as a parent. RPers are not happy, well adjusted people, and no one wants that for their child. It's your job as a parent to instill in your child the tools they need in life to become well adjusted and content. And it would break my heart that not only does he have such an opinion on women, but he would view myself and his sister in that light. Hopefully some sense could be knocked into him before he goes too far down that path. I'm not sure h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 05:34 AM
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Do nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 04:32 AM
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This is typical hate group rhetoric. White surpremacists say the same about Jews. Black surpremacists say the same about whites. Sunnis say the same about Shiites, etc... The targeted group is always said to be intellectually and morally inferior. They lack some of the most basic endearing qualities a human being can possess, as well as lack key emotions. They are liars, cheaters, and need to be controlled like animals, because that's essentially what they are Honestly, I would have less of a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/14 09:44 PM
2

We're talking early 70s here, not the 80s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 04:25 AM
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This is abject FUCKING bullshit. No, it really isn't. I am 45 years old. Good for you. You're 15 years younger than her. My mother is 67 years old and had jobs, bank accounts, apartments, went to college, had store credit cards. So? That doesn't change anything. Some jurisdictions in the US allowed women to vote in the 1860s. You need to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 04:24 AM
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The United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 03:19 AM
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Women who are still alive today, like my 50-some year old mother, have lived under conditions where women were legally treated as children. When she started working, for example, she could not have a bank account or credit card in her name. It all had to be under her father's name. Men aren't "turning the tables on women," RP types are longing for a not-so-long-ago time when women were literally subjugated like children in many avenues in life. This is not the same as women sitting around over c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 03:42 AM
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Here is some real science on the matter from sources that aren't The Daily Mail, How Stuff Works, and Science Daily: Quantitative magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) studies of intracranial gray matter volumes have yielded inconsistent findings in adults. Some show that females actually have increased total gray matter relative to males after controlling for the overall increase in male brain size (Gur and others 1999; Goldstein and others 2001; Lemaitre and others 2005); whereas others report no s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 03:23 AM
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BP does not have a collective ideology to defend other than we disagree with TRP. When debating a BPer, you're debating that individual and their ideas, not a collective. I don't understand why the concept of BPers as individuals have opposing ideas to TRP, whereas TBP in and of itself is not a coherent, opposing ideology, is so difficult to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 04:15 PM
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My points usually boils down to this: TRP often begins with a kernal of truth, and then finnagles it to fit one of their warped conclusions that are based on the raw emotions of dejection. Their conclusions often are nothing more than projection of their own feelings rather than a fair, objective as possible look at reality. Nah, just kidding, I'm a fat, single, 35 year old post wall former cock carousel rider with short hair who is just upset men are finally catching wind of my intrinsically ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 04:08 PM
3

How about not wasting your time on these types of people?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 03:01 PM
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"Why won't she admit to the totally unbiased truth of my narrative?" Red Pill solipcism at its finest. The girl isn't some sub who is just not getting turned on by a non-dom guy, this is a victim of abuse who has no business being in any sort of relationship until she can work through her issues. I mean you are literally arguing why its OK to abuse a woman if that's all she's used to and all she reacts to. Jesus Christ. Why don't we just beat the shit out of a rescue dog who is used to nothing b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 02:58 PM
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I have friends who did the sugar baby thing. They lasted a few months and then get really depressed and disillusioned with men and relationships, in addition to getting sick of being treated like an object. It's also virtually impossible to develop real relationships if this is what you do with you life. If you are able to abandon all of your principals, prioritize material gains over real intimacy, don't give a shit about your reputation, and want to play a little fast a loose with your persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 07:19 PM
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No, but I also don't see men being told their only value in life is their beauty. You can either subscribe to the idea that its just as bad to perpetuate a certain standard of physical attractiveness for men as it is women, or that men have other qualities that partners and society look for when determining their value, even often placing precedent over, such as status, confidence, whatever. You can't subscribe to both.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 11:50 AM
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No, that's what anti-feminists believe feminists believe. I mean seriously, find me one goddamned feminist describing women finding men who are tall dark and handsome "empowering." No one is going to criticize you or call you a misogynist for your preferences. What feminists criticize is the mutually exclusiveness of presenting one standard of beauty as the be all, end all of feminine beauty while telling women and girls their only value is their beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 12:57 AM
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Thanks for sharing. That was super relevant to everything being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 10:01 PM
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::sigh::
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 02:09 AM
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You're still not answering my original point - which is that if you truly see men and women equal - and mothers and fathers as equally important to children - then you would realize that children need equal time with mothers and fathers. That was your original point? Ha! You sir, are severely confused over what my entire point is here if you think my argument is that fathers don't deserve time with their children. Let's rewind here: OP claims that women are often absolved of their bad decisions,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 02:00 AM
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Oh believe me, you didn't offend or upset me int he least, just pointing out your hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 01:26 AM
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Your reply to me before this one: You're using ad hominem attacks against me! Your next reply to me: You're a misandrist who is going to destroy the life of and divorce rape your husband! Get a grip, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 12:46 AM
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Ad hominem: Don't listen to trudatness because he's a Red Piller, and Red Pillers are clueless assholes. Not an ad hominem: I'm really tired of your rude, inflammatory, smartass remarks with no intention to actually hold constructive debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 12:15 AM
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You want to compare one or a handful of outlier cases based on faulty interpretation of the law to this - something codified in policy that directly states that when two people are drunk the man is a rapist and the woman is the victim? You want to bring up one case where a single school has a pretty dubious policy regarding consent and intoxication. Yet for every one instance where a woman is seen as not responsible for her actions because she was drunk, I can bring up probably 20 where a man is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 12:01 AM
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Oh look, trudatness not offering any sort of constructive, good faith rebuttals, rather just regurgitating inflammatory Red Pill circle jerking platitudes. Color me shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 10:53 PM
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Keep in mind that men being ordered to pay child support is not "yes, women are weak," rather "children are entitled to both of their parents resources regardless of the actions of their parents."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 08:41 PM
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A woman lost her job because her boss found her too attractive and distracting to do his own damn job. The courts sided with him. Source Judge rules that man who raped a woman in the woods next to a highway can't be held responsible because she was dressed sexy and kissed him earlier, he was just too "clumsy" to understand that these things do not invite him to force sex on a woman. Source I could spend all day finding articles on women being questioned what they did to provoke a man to violate …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 07:31 PM
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How do you know half of the articles in Cosmo are on training men? Anyway, the only time in my life I ever read Cosmo was when I was in 8th or 9th grade because I thought it made me grown up. You say TRP is like Cosmo for men. Let that sink in for a minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 07:19 PM
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You're projecting your personal feelings on the subject, asserting them as a factual phenomenon. As others have pointed out, American men often have a reputation as being arrogant, disrespectful, and perverted. As an informal exercise, Google "American stereotypes abroad." Most are either gender neutral, if not slightly more harsh on men. The only thing I found specifically on the poor reputation of American women is from the website "Happier Abroad."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 03:33 PM
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A RPer so succinctly, and eloquently defined their version of solipsism the other day: "seeing the world how you want to see it." TRP will twist and turn anything to confirm their beliefs. As you said, people are upset over it because it was a blatant violation of these women's privacy, and that's what getting a lot of guys off about these pictures. They view women's bodies, and their sexuality, as public domain; objects to be exploited at men's will. The humiliation and distress suffered by so …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 04:14 AM
3

Will you knock it off with calling everyone a troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 05:44 PM
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Not your personal entertainment army.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 07:31 AM
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So as an 18 year old who just graduated high school, why do you think you're qualified to give marriage advice to a 36 year old woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 06:41 AM
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This is where my perspective divorces a lot of my progressive and feminist cohorts. I think there is sometimes a knee jerk reaction to defend minority groups at any cost, to the point where even discussion of issues within those communities, and how they affect even those outside of the community, become taboo in fear of being seen as being a bigot. This is what happens when you let ideology overshadow reality. There is a growing Islamic community where I live. While I have met many kind, lovely…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 06:17 AM
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You have experience with women... Well if that's not a compelling argument as to why women are not loyal and have no honor, I don't know what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 05:45 AM
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You know those girls who say "I don't do drama?" You bet your ass they do drama, and they're usually the ones causing it. It's those same girls. Where many women can smell a douchebag a mile away, these girls are drawn to him because they love drama. Then wonder why they get burned.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 05:42 AM
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It's a strawman until it isn't. Just look at the top rated arguments, they're making the cultural argument! No, it's a perfect example of a stawman. Pointing out there are cultural aspects to gender is not the same as saying that gender is entirely determined by culture, which is what you are trying to represent the BP as being. Not a single BP reply on here has said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 11:28 PM
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RPers are feeling particularly circle jerky on here today.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 06:34 PM
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I'm not BP, but here is my straw man....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 06:32 PM
3

Ahh shit, I must have clicked TRP instead of PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 06:27 PM
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Here's my take on the matter: Men and women are not polar opposites. We have far more in common than we don't. Gender is also a spectrum. It is not exactly black and white. There are some things that can be associated with one gender, that one gender displays more than the other, but it is not all or nothing. There can be more variation within a group than between groups. This is important to remember on an individual level. And lastly, taking into account what gender differences are caused by b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 06:18 PM
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3,673 unique cocks all by the time I was 22. And then after that I had trouble attracting men because I was so old and decrepit. I am a female geriatric (28 years old), and am 485 lbs. Just your typical girl, lol duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 12:59 AM
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Anyways, to make this a quick post....every single female that I know is either pregnant as a single mother, divorced (at fucking what? 22?), or in an abusive relationship to real dark triad types. A lot of my male peers are dead, due to drugs or Senor Bullet. :/ Jeez, where'd you go to school, Bartertown?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 01:39 AM
3

I've never had a ONS, so correct me if I am wrong, but do people even discuss something like this before a ONS?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 11:39 PM
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I already said how. You tell the truth. I'm talking LTRs here, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 09:54 PM
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Go ahead and lie. Don't get all pissed if she's upset when the truth comes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 07:29 PM
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Some women may find it a deal breaker, some may not. I can tell you one thing, though: It's going to be pretty damn obvious when you do have sex that you're inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 07:09 PM
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Those of us who think other's sex lives are none of your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 09:05 AM
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When you log off Jezebel and Tumblr, shaming women for promiscuity is not a condemnable offense. As a matter of fact it is a pretty common occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 06:15 AM
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The issue I have encountered in debating you is that you want BPers to basically regurgitate RP beliefs back to you, but in "BP," or at least non-RP language, before you consider their position to be answering your question. In other words, you build a framework for an argument that you want BPers to work within, with premises that are inherently contentious to most BPers. The other day you kept posing the same question to me: "How would you redefine masculinity, with the parameter that you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 04:53 AM
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because once people do find out I have a higher than average partner count, any view I have about relationships is irrelevant because I don't know what a "meaningfull" relationship is or I am envious of what "real love" is. "The number" is essential for a woman to attack another persons character(seriously, look just how often women go for the ad homines), be it women or men. That's exactly what TRP, and I would argue society at large, does to women, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 04:37 AM
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See women as unique individuals with feelings, not just as sex objects (kid version: Don't be shallow) It's ok to be sexually attracted to a woman. I think it's great when men think I'm hot. What's not ok that I have seen TRP advocate: "I can't stick my dick in your degree" attitude. A woman's goals, accomplishments, interests, and sometimes even character? Irrelevant to them. When it comes to attraction, I want a man who is both attracted to me sexually and who is interested in and respects me …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 04:29 AM
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Yes, I'm the one trolling here. I do, however, realize you really think the tripe you responded with is a valid, reasonable argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 09:10 PM
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Wow, thanks for that thoughtful reply. Your impeccable debate and discussion skills are enviable. I don't know where I would be at this hour without such RP wisdom as: "I'm loling at you." "You're just plain wrong, not worth correcting," and of course "be thankful men aren't killing women en masse." I truly am an unworthy opponent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 09:07 PM
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Something most people aren't realizing is that the average TRPer or MGTOW was at one time very interested in being in a long term relationship with one woman for the rest of their lives. Most people realize this, and know the reason why you turned to TRP is because of either rejection or fear of rejection by women. It's pretty clear that TRP is a defense mechanism because of bad luck with women. It's just plain biotruth that men typically want to be monogamous. What's funny is I just got done re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 07:50 PM
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How old are you to consider a 27 year old woman dating a 29 year old man to be dating "an older man?" That's just ridiculous. The only time a two year age difference is consider significant is for people under the age of six.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 06:46 PM
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Wow, that's exciting. Logically then the only part of my request you're asked to fulfill is you have to provide reasoning why you think(to the absence of all evidence, i.e. universally-cultural and historical) that hypergamy is a complete non-factor You asked me to present my model of defining masculinity, which somewhat rejects current notions of masculinity, within the parameters TRP's definition of the current state of hypergamy. Again, this does not work as I believe that if current notions …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 07:51 PM
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Imposing narrow views of what someone's value is based upon their gender is what I think is toxic. I cannot work within the parameters of hypergamy to define what I mean by tearing down gender roles for both men and women, men particularly in this case, because the notion of gender-based "hypergamy" would be obliterated with my model. You're asking me what a post-gender roles world would look like using the parameters of values born out of gender roles and expectations. That doesn't work. In the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 05:38 AM
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And tell me a workable way to redefine masculinity, in a way it serves both parties interests. With examples and without idealism, from the perspective of male sexual strategy.... The only request is; denying hyper-gamy is not allowed. Unless you can put in data that supports the claim or method. What does this even mean? We can't even agree on what both parties interests are, the ins and outs of male sexual strategy, as well as what role femininity plays in all this, yet you want me to define r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 04:18 AM
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Haha, are you waiting for me? I actually have spent time on a response to you, but you wrote me a fucking novel, man. Your response amounts to six pages single spaced in Word. It's going to take some time for that reason alone, and because you are not very high on my priority list.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 03:29 AM
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So its a RP circle jerk?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 11:31 PM
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You're really not doing anything to help accusations of confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 04:29 PM
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Sure you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 04:56 PM
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Blue pillers can be naturally independent, driven and fit guys. They can be attractive enough to get a woman without knowing TRP(that is how humanity worked for most of it's history.) OP's man is just a very will behaved good guy. A naturally independent, driven, and fit guy who can attract women without being into TRP, who is just a well behaved good guy... So are you saying BP Men the natural alphas? And if there are plenty of men out there getting women without TRP, doesn't that demonstrate t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 08:14 AM
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Here you claim that you wrote what RedPillers believe, which you don't agree with of course. You define that as sarcasm. Oh my fucking god. I specifically defined that as not being sarcasm. You were the one who tried to call it sarcasm, and I was the one who corrected you on my very first response to you And if that weren't enough, it's also a strawman logical fallacy A strawman argument is an intentional misrepresentation of your opponent's argument to make it easier to defeat because you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 08:04 AM
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You're basically arguing that polemic arguments are inherently fallacious.And that's fine for you to take that stance, but that is not an objective or widely accepted definition of the word. Of course the dictionary isn't going to say "this is bad." Knock it off with the disingenuousness. The dictionary, however does give an indication of the pejoration of a word. Do you understand the reason someone would take the stance that polemics are inherently fallacious? The reasoning is that polemics ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 07:50 AM
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I made a comment that was not sarcastic at all. You criticized it by saying that I was doing a poor job at being sarcastic. I responded with telling you that my comment was not sarcastic. You responded with basically saying that it's not sarcastic, it's polemic.... Yeah, no shit. You then went off the rails with your own definition of polemic. Serious question: Are you intellectually impaired?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 07:27 AM
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Nowhere in these defintion says it that it is a good argument. Haha, oh lord. You're right, a polemic argument is not inherently a good one. I never claimed that. You did, however claim that it is inherently a bad one. Polemic is harshness and harshness is stronly correlated with unobjectiveness, especially in your original comment. Yeah... I'm not being unobjective here. I'm pretty strongly stating my contempt for RP positions. You are just too much. You really think that you made a good argume…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 07:21 AM
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LOL, oh ok, you wrote a paper once. This guy wrote a paper everyone! From the OED: A strong verbal or written attack on someone or something From Merriam-Websters: a strong written or spoken attack against someone else's opinions, beliefs, practices, etc. polemics : the art or practice of using language to defend or harshly criticize something or someone 1 a : an aggressive attack on or refutation of the opinions or principles of another b : the art or practice of disputation or controversy —usu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 07:05 AM
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I don't think you understand what polemic means...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 06:41 AM
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Yes, I know it was more polemic, you're the one who was trying to call it sarcasm.... And furthermore "no" what? You don't think the only reason she is in the relationship she's in is because he's a beta provider she's taking advantage of him and/or she's too hideous to get anything else? That's virtually every response here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 06:35 AM
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Sarcasm is stating the opposite of what is true. What i wrote is literally what you and your ilk believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 06:29 AM
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It's clearly because you're an ugly feminazi landwhale dyke cunt who has to settle on a pathetic beta, who will leave him if a dominant, alpha male were to grace you with his attention. Duh. This is the only possible explanation as any other contradicts my precious ideology that allows me to rationalize being horrible to women and failing to ever make a connection with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 05:45 AM
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I'm a Biology student, aspiring for med school, not that it matters in this conversation. Do you think you're superior to women by virtue of being a male? whether or not women were oppressed decades ago has very little to no bearing on the current generation of females. Yes it certainly does, because that oppression did not magically end over night just because it was no longer legal. My mother is 59 years old, and still works full time. When she got her first job she was unable to open a bank a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 05:38 AM
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There was a discussion about this the other day on TBP about how TRP attracts a disproportionate amount of Asian, both East Asian and Southern Asian males. It's interesting how this correlates with that fact that, in the US at least, these men are often portrayed as sexless or effeminate geeks. They're the antithesis of masculinity. I believe men like you are attracted to TRP because you feel like you have something to prove, which is your masculinity. You're insecure. You're confused. You're no…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 05:21 AM
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If I may, Reginleifer, what exactly are you circumstances? How do you personally contribute to humanity? As for you analogy, I see it more like this: No one has chained Usain Bolt. Usain Bolt, however, has been running rigged races against people who have been chained, and those chained individuals are finally pulling those chains off, and although Bolt still leaves them in the dust, he is threatened that they're inching up behind him, even if it is slowly because hey, some of those chains and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 03:29 AM
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I vehemently reject the notion that any, or most gender-based adversity men face is the fault of female power structures. What female power structures would you be referring to? I'm talking about specifics here. Vague "the feminsits!" isn't going to work. As I stated, the reason men face gender-based adversity or discrimination is often because of rigid gender roles that men have not been as freed from as women have. A woman could be a career chasing go-getter, or just want to be a housewife, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 01:40 AM
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I believe there are plenty of instances where men are disenfranchised in modern society due to their gender. I actually agree with several MRA points. My problems comes with your misplaced blame. The majority of the issues men face I believe have to do with women being liberated from gender roles, yet men still being held to them. The definition of femininity changed, but the definition of masculinity did not. This has caused so many men to be confused about what and where their place is, and in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 01:02 AM
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I really don't know how to make this more clear. I am pointing out the hypocrisy that is men like MRA and RPers taking the stance that when women under perform men in a certain subject or field, it is due to inherent female inferiority or disinterest in these fields. Discrimination? LOL, don't be silly, girls have the same exact opportunities (if not more, amirite, amirite!) that men do! Yet when males underperform females in certain subjects or fields, y'all are quick to jump on the "Misandry! …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 12:41 AM
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The 20th century American female liberation was not the only women's movement in the history of humanity, you know. But to answer why women were subject to, and often perpetuated patriarchy to their daughters, it's because in many cases, they had no choice. It was only just a few decades that here in the US women could not claim their own financial assets or make their own medical decisions. Just the other night at work I had an 80-something year old patient tell me about how all of her medical …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 12:21 AM
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I really don't know how to respond to this. The question TheTerrorSquad asked here essentially boils down to this: People who are against the patriarchy, why are you complicit in it? Again, not all women, and men, are complicit in patriarchal societies. This is why feminism exists. The fact that some women have perpetuated patriarchy, and that women have been oppressed in patriarchy, does not change the fact that the reason for feminism, the question posed in this thread, is because many people …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 12:12 AM
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The very existence of feminism goes to show that many women are not complicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 11:52 PM
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but a Caucasian female has access to the exact same resources as her brothers. The fact that even with an entire movement behind her, Sally White Girl has not been able to fill up those positions of power, is something of a mystery. Women have made immense strides in several fields since the American women's liberation, which, might I remind you, was just a generation ago. What's interesting is that in one breath, MRA/RP types will talk about modern day misandry leaving men in the dust: girls ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 11:52 PM
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Not if you lose voting privileges if you don't sign up. Good thing you don't lose voting privileges if you fail to sign up: https://www.sss.gov/FSbenefits.htm And no one has been fined or prosecuted for failing to register since the 1970s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 11:18 PM
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They they negotiated the vote because they deserved a saw, if they were going to be used as cannon fodder, then they got the vote contingent on them continuing to be available for cannon fodder. The vote was negotiated with the the notion that if politicians have the power to send men to war, then those men need to be able to have a say in who their policiticians are. The is quite different than saying that the right to vote in and of itself is dependent upon military service/the potential to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 10:51 PM
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Whats your theory, men started saying women should start acting all superior and dainty. A man was controlling the thoughts of that woman that wrote the book. I said nothing about men controlling women. That's all your own words. What I have written about is prescribed gender roles: Men act this way, women act this way. This is a social values issues, not a men versus women issue, as you seem to think it is. Women certainly can perpetuate misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 10:47 PM
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::sigh::
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 09:06 PM
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Whatever sounds good to you does not make for good history. Both of your recent replies are literally things you have just made up because they conveniently fit your agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 08:58 PM
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No.... That's not what happened. Black men could be drafted into wars in the US before they could vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 08:57 PM
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No, that's just what you want to see. I'm of the opinion that any sort of prescribed gender role is oppressive to both genders. As for society at large, honor and valour are generally viewed as masculine traits. That's why men are treated so harshly when they deviate from what is considered the defining traits of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 08:33 PM
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No, voting rights were given to men because they were being used as cannon fodder, women got the vote soon after, without condition. Right... So then why were men in the US able to be drafted into wars a full three years before they were able to vote for the majority of the 20th century? 26th Amendment Voting and conscription have nothing to do with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 08:28 PM
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That's perfectly fine. I would not want a man who has had many partners, either. The problem with TRP comes when: 1) You think it is alright to degrade these women. Frankly, it's none of your goddamned business. You don't want to be with them? Fine, leave it at that. 2) You think all, or most men share your preference. 3) You think all, or most women are fine with men having several partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 08:14 PM
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Do you understand the implications of what you just linked me to? What is meant by "social superiors," is that women are to remain well-mannered, dainty, and unassuming. Men are free to act little more rough around the edges. And it's really quit hilarious that you had to cite a guide from the 19th century to attempt to prove your point. Again, I will pose the question: Find me one article in Cosmo that states that women are morally and intellectually superior to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 08:12 PM
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No one is keeping track. If you're keeping track, you're doing it wrong. You do what you have to do. You do what you need to do. If one person ends up taking the lead a little more than the other, that's fine. It's the notion that, in order for a relationship to be successful, it has to always be the man in the lead, and that's what all women want, that people have a problem with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 01:19 AM
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Since Bluepers back up the righteous 50-50 relationship power to both parties, how does decisions work in a relationship? No. There are some things I take domain over, and some things he takes domain over. There are something I generally get the final say on, and some things he generally gets the final say on. We take on whatever our strengths are. This does not mean that either of us rule with an iron fist of our subjects of strength. The other's input is always wanted and considered. But what …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 01:14 AM
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I don't know any female over the age of 20 who takes Cosmo seriously. The only time I read it was when I was about 15 or 16 because I was getting out of teen magazines and I thought it made me grown up. And with that being said, show me one Cosmo article that states that men are morally and intellectually inferior to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 12:57 AM
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You should realize that not every situation is the same No, that's what you need to realize. I am perfectly aware that good people, who do everything "right,' so to say, in a relationship, can still get hurt. You, being a RPer, on the other hand, think there is an almost foolproof formula to women and relationships, that if a woman leaves you, that if a relationships fails, it's because you weren't alpha enough. You were out alphaed by another man, or you didn't dread game her enough. I have tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 08:05 AM
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This has been repeated ad naseum, but whatever: You weren't as kind and respectful as you thought. Pedestalizing someone and being their doormat is not kind and respectful. This is what got you and a lot of other men rejected. Being kind and respectful aren't the only things you need for attraction. Keep in mind I am talking about relationships. Most people, men and women alike, are just looking for a hot piece of ass for ONS
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 01:43 AM
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If it were a man, would you stop to help? The whole "women don't need men" is based around rejecting the notion that women are incompetent at basically everything unless they have strong male leadership, because they're women. It does not mean that women are to never be on the receiving end of basic human decency when they are in need, because everyone needs help sometimes. Come on, do you really have to have that spelled out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 11:25 PM
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Telling men the reason they're to blame is because they were just too kind and respectful to women, that in reality women are just horrible subhumans who deserve to be treated as such, is the weakest attempt at accepting blame for your plight. It's not even really accepting blame. It's just passive aggressive justification to become a bully to those you really see responsible for you plight, for men with low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 10:20 PM
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'm shirking the blame by blaming myself? That implies society is to blame which goes against your point. You have an amazing ability to completely miss the point of anything anyone says. My point is that you are NOT blaming yourself, even though you say you do. In reality you still blame society for your social ineptitude. Your only "blame" is believing societies lies. And no, I am not saying society lies, I'm just using your own terminology. IIRC the man never denied that it was his DNA. He kne…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 06:06 PM
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I agree. It's my fault for believing its lies without questioning them for myself. This is such a passive aggressive shirking of blame. You're essentially saying "It's not my fault I believed your lies!" You still see yourself a victim of lies, and the only blame you feel you have is that you didn't question things sooner. I'm not reeling from the shock, I got over this a while ago. Again, you can drop the condescending tone. I'm being respectful to you and I'd appreciate the same. I see things …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 05:17 PM
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Men have about 6.5 times as much gray matter in their brains, which is major component of the nervous system that allows for logical, rational thinking. The brain is much more complex than this part does this, and this part does that. Some new studies have shown that diseases of white matter can impair planning, problem solving, organizing, and visual-spatial abilities. Source. So it can be concluded that white matter plays a role in rational and logical thinking. And even with that being said, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 06:51 AM
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Yeesh, it must be exhausting for any woman who finds herself pursuing any sort of relationship with you. This is how you have failed relationships and a life full of drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 04:56 PM
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I have seen RPers claim that a woman's education level, career, and earnings mean jack to them in all contexts, even LTR. They go onto say that being a feminine, obedient, not fat, etc.... is all that matters. Are you saying this is not representative of RP beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 05:44 PM
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Most people go for partners with similar educational backgrounds and of similar socioeconomic background. I would agree that there is more emphasis placed on a man's earning abilities, but where my opinion differs from TRP is that I believe this is entirely cultural, and that it is changing rapidly. So my question to you is where does TRP get off claiming that a woman's career, earnings, and education level is entirely irrelevant to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 05:30 PM
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Blah blah, ain't no one care about your rant. But I would like you to answer my question: Yes, most women are horrible Then why'd you'd fucking argue with me when was I said that's what you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 01:12 AM
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But you think a lot of women are horrible. That's all my fucking point was! I don't care why you think they're horrible, and what can be done about it. Your opinion is more or less "women are horrible." The addendum "but some aren't" doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 12:54 AM
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Why he thinks women are horrible is irrelevant. Feminism, innate drives, it doesn't matter. All I said was that I hope when that guy took women off the pedestal he didn't swap it for the belief that women are horrible. RPAnon says he doesn't think women are horrible, just women. I basically said that TRP could have fooled me. He then came back and basically said OK, we think a lot of women are horrible.... a small minority aren;t. Yes, that's exactly what I fucking wrote, you think women are hor…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 12:52 AM
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Haha, then why did you even try to correct me when I said that I hope he doesn't think women are horrible? You: We don't think women are horrible. Me: Could have fooled me. You: OK, so we think most are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 12:39 AM
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Oh FFS. How the hell did you get there from my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 12:30 AM
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Women aren't horrible, they're women. Six to one, half dozen to another. They way TRP describes women is not simply taking them off the pedestal, rather you describe them as being pretty synonymous with horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 12:21 AM
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It's called having humanity and some of you blue pillers should try practicing some time. Says the guy who subscribes to a sub where this comment was up voted yesterday: Once you've established that, next time you're looking to sexually escalate simply ignore her token attempts to refuse. She turns her lips away from a kiss, you force her against a wall and take it. She tries to push you off, you squeeze her. You grab her and throw her onto the bed, then lay into her with your weight so she can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 12:20 AM
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And I could make my own, but its somewhat different for me. The magic is gone. Like a magic trick once you understand it, it's no longer as interesting. That doesn't sound like you could make your own happy and healthy relationship. It sounds like you're jaded and even depressed from subscribing to a warped ideology. And why do you think focusing on yourself and your hobbies is shallow? That's a good thing. Chasing after relationships just because you're afraid of being alone, is often how peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 03:44 PM
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I've lost the "women are wonderful" effect I feel I was conditioned to have from a young age. Good, because that is a dehumanizing opinion to have of someone. But I hope it has not been swapped out for "women are horrible."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 03:40 PM
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People outside of TRP's echo chamber call that having self esteem and self respect. Why does TRP think they're the only ones who have stumbled across this supposedly esoteric truth, and make it into such a bizarre concept: "maintaining frame?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 03:37 PM
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Yet there are many people out there, ones who don't subscribe to RP beliefs, who have healthy and happy relationships. Have you considered that maybe, just maybe you are not as correct about things as you think you are? Ever spoken with a conspiracy theorist? They see shit that confirms their biases EVERYWHERE. Unfortunately this is what makes talking to them rationally about their beliefs almost impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 03:31 PM
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Attractive women? Not outside of a rare exception. Pixie cut feminists who have brainwashed themselves into thinking "Consent is sexy." do not even remotely count. That's mighty solipsistic of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 03:26 PM
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It is fine to say those traits define a good man, and that is what you should strive for. That's self improvement. But that's not what it was. It was a explicit attempt to compare with virtues that define a man in comparison to those women lack. It was an attempt to illustrate the inherent moral and intellectual superiority men have over women. Women are dirt, you are a god. TRP is not an self improvement sub. It is a hate group, a surpremacist group whose sole purpose is to drive home the idea …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 05:46 PM
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No, reverse the genders in the situation: I am a married woman. My husband and I have not been having sex. It is killing me. I have asked for a divorce, but he doesn't want one. Oh, he is immensely rich, too. So I found me a guy on the side to start fucking. I told my husband about it, too, that I have no intention of stopping. And you know what? All of a sudden my husband's libido increases! We're fucking like never before, and I'm still getting some from my boyfriend! This is how you do it, la…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 05:33 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 01:14 AM
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TRP's impeccable logic, folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 12:44 AM
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Here ya go, straight from TRP itself Guy cheats on his wife, and basically brags about how he successfully dread gamed her to fuck him more. Some RPers take issue with it, but others praise him for doing whatever it takes to get what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 10:28 PM
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rational thought: birds and other mammals have shown planning abilities and the ability to plan ahead. empathy: dogs and plenty of other group mammals. Today on TRP there is a highly up voted post that says women lack rationality and empathy. So are you saying women are below dogs and other animals? Perly9's point is that TRP judges men's actions and women's actions by an entirely different metric. Men are given the benefit of the doubt. Men's bad behaviors are often excused or rationalized. Men…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 10:16 PM
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So if the number of dominant males is decreasing because of cultural factors, ie conditioning in school, then that suggests that the dominant male/submissive female paradigm is a cultural construct in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 10:01 PM
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So treating your significant other poorly and cheating on them is the result of feminism? Well fuck, I guess I suck at this feminism thing! Give me a break. That's such an absurd straw man and laughable attempt at vilification. Some women are shitty partners and do shitty things. Some men are shitty partners and do shitty things. TRP's belief that narcissitic, selfish, and abusive behavior by a woman in a relationship is indicative of some sort of inherent female pathology or feminist brainwashi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 09:47 PM
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Translation: I'm an insecure man child trying really hard to seem tough. I'm not saying that just to be inflammatory. This is honestly how your comments come off to me. Men who aren't insecure, who are truly attractive, don't go around talking about how much they're not "sniveling little bitches" and how much testosterone they take. You're either 16, Tap Out wearing lower middle class white trash (or equivalent), or a really dedicated BP troll. But hey, some females are into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/14 11:09 PM
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If a man doesn't talk about weakness or insecurity, he's in an unhealthy relationship? If a man thinks that the second he shows weakness or insecurity in a relationship his woman is going to fly the coop, he has an unhealthy attitude toward his relationship. If a woman holds a man's weakness or insecurities over him (save for legitimate circumstances where this endangers a relationship, such a weakness for prostitutes), she is incapable of a healthy relationship. What if he doesn't feel those th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/14 09:42 PM
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Does this happen? Oh certainly. Men are supposed to be strong and stoic, otherwise they're weak. They're pussies. This is one of the worst things I think men have to face. There are only certain emotions that are culturally acceptable for men to express. Here's what you need to understand: What you're describing is not a healthy relationship. You're describing a relationship with an immature woman. Eventually, your stonewall attitude will wear off, because you're human. When people give you the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/14 06:48 PM
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Troll
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 04:56 PM
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I've read many RPW women say, that unlike feminists, they want to be feminine: wear pretty dresses, bake yummy pies for their hubby, have great sex with him, maybe even have babies and stay home with them! Those things don't contradict feminism because according to them, I practically piss femininity. Here is where I have a problem with RPW: I refuse to submit to my husband's virtually unquestioned authority. They say women should follow their husband's lead. Yeah, well there are some things tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 02:05 AM
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One thing is that these types of guys get shot down a lot. They move on ASAP, and don't stew on the rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 01:44 AM
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That's not what most people said at all. Most people agree that it is probably because these guys have very good social skills, they put themselves out there to women, they are usually physically attractive, and my own addition, that they're not afraid of rejection, as their advances do get rejected a lot. They move on and don't stew in it. Nice try, though. Want to address things people actually said instead of constructing strawmen?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 01:42 AM
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Fight fire with fire right? Let's recap what happened, although I doubt any of it will resonate with you: I said you need to grow up and that you are naive, because you are. You are fresh out of high school and only had a girlfriend for a few months. You literally used the example of a childhood relationship as an anecdote to prove your assertions about women, commitment, and relationships. I provided you with my anecdotes that contradict yours to try to demonstrate to you that maybe, just maybe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 01:25 AM
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Maybe I just need to remember RPW and accept that I am inferior to men, and anything and everything about me is subject to their emotional lashings out. After all, they're the rational and logical ones. Ah, never mind. I'm just a whore trying to get alpha brownie points by agreeing with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 09:17 PM
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Haha, so your only response is to complain that I insulted and called you names, by going on a tirade insulting me, calling me names, telling me my life is over, and attacking my relationship by saying I'm going to get my come uppance because... well I'm not really sure why you think I'll get my come uppance? Because I've had the gall to reach my late 20s and I think your view here is childish and naive? I can assure you, I'm not the bitter, unhappy one here, as evidenced by the fact that your r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 07:23 PM
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Really, you give me an example of a high school relationship that lasted a few weeks? Story time: I am a 28 year old woman who has been in the same relationship for nearly 10 years. In that time my husband has experienced job loss and underemployment. I was a full time stay at home mom who had been reluctantly dragged 8 hours away from all my friends and family, and the only home I've ever known when he lost his job. And you know what? Three years later, I'm still here. He is my everything. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 05:21 PM
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Have you ever been diagnosed with Antisocial Personality Disorder?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 11:01 PM
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Romantic love is not unconditional. Whether RPers want to admit it or not, I think they still have this naive, pie in the sky idea about what love and relationships are. You don't just fall in love forever and ever and ever and that's that. Relationships are work. They take two people who are willing to commit and work with each other. There are conditions that need to be met to maintain a relationship. RPers often cite frequency and quality of sex, as well as a woman maintaining her appearance,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 11:00 PM
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But you guys keep asserting that this is an example that dread game works, but then you admit that these are messed up people with a messed up relationship. So again, TRP is just a blueprint for milking unhealthy interactions. Yeah, dread game works... in the context of shit. What's the point of that? Where's the self improvement advice in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 01:33 AM
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You would be surprised. Women lose little in a divorce. In the majority of marriages as they stand today, the man logically and undeniably stand to lose far more. Actually, alimony is rare, only awarded in about 15% of divorces, and men, because they usually earn more than women and do, tend to have more assets after divorce, whereas women have less. Source for the UK and Europe Anyway, I'm not even sure what you're arguing here. You've essentially agreed that they're both individuals with some …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 01:11 AM
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Ok, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 01:04 AM
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And I agree, its because men and women are different. Not more or less intelligent, just different.... nowhere did I say women are inferior. Here is a quote from you elsewhere in this subject: I think both are valuable but I also think men could do both. I don't think women would be capable of doing both. (in regards to physical labor) You believe men are more capable than women. You believe men have more to offer to society than women. If this is not you implying that you think men are superior…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 09:40 PM
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I used to be a PPD debate regular, and have spent countless hours engaging opinions like yours. Do you know what I learned? It doesn't matter what evidence I produce. It doesn't matter that every credible source on a subject, such as with why abused individuals stay with their abusers, rejects your opinion. You have made up your mind about something, and will find anything, even if that means making something up because it sounds good, to support it. They're crackpot theories. Nah, not worth my …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 09:26 PM
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What is your point here? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 06:24 PM
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The question was why aren't more women becoming more entrepreneurs. I presented contrary evidence, and now the goalposts are changing. "Yeah, well sure, they're entrepreneurs, but they aren't developing mid-sized businesses." Ignoring how they've taken their and their family's livelihood into their own hands is still creating a job and contributing trillions to the economy, it's still not good enough because it doesn't mirror what men are doing, which is the metric you use to define what is supe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 06:22 PM
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Yes they do. And some men stay with women who abuse them. Are you a MRA? Anyway, these people who stay in abusive relationships tend to be very unhealthy individuals themselves. I had a boyfriend who started demonstrating some abusive red flags to me early on in a relationship. I got the fuck out. What does that prove to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 05:41 PM
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If we define "works" as having your partner sexually attracted to you and not stabbing you in the back She's the one who was about to stab him in the back? HE WAS CHEATING ON HER! The backstabbing going on here was his doing. So your absurd rationalization because she didn't immediately leave him, is that cheating is a viable strategy to save your relationship because now she is trying to have sex with him.. Mmmhmm, and how many times have men been stuck in a dead relationship, who still try the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 05:35 PM
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No. Dread works. And not to save relationships. But in creating an unexpected dynamic. It works in unhealthy relationships. It may work in some instances among people with certain fetishes. But it certainly is no universal truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 05:11 PM
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Sharon Osbourne: The Official Representative and Spokeswoman of Women because one time, like 8 years ago, she giggled at a story of a man getting his dick cut off on a talk show that no on watched. Checkmate, you really got me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 05:06 PM
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Telling your wife you're cheating on her could very likely result in her trying harder. It could also result in her throwing your ass out, cutting your dick off, etc... A man who has options is inifinitely more attractive than a man who has only her, and women almost never throw away (shallow) value; that's why they stay with men who beat and abuse them. Women stay with men who abuse them because they're jealous other women will be with them? How about this: Abusive partners make their partner f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 02:10 AM
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RP looks at things that work, and how they work. The fact that this was upvoted is due to the fact that cheating works. To go off on a tangent for a moment, you have now concluded that cheating works to save relationships because this one woman decided to stay with her cheating man? So other the weekend my dad told me that my aunt had thrown her husband out of the house. She is currently talking to an attorney. He cheated. What does this prove to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 01:59 AM
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So what is your opinion on women who cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 01:54 AM
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*There are 7.8 million women-owned businesses in the United States. This reflects a 20.1% increase from 2002 to 2007. *Women-owned firms make up 28.7% of all nonfarm businesses across the country and generate $1.2 trillion in total receipts. *The cities2 with the largest percentage of women-owned businesses are: Detroit, MI (49.7%), Baltimore, MD (36.9%), Milwaukee, WI (36.3%), Chicago, IL (36.0%). There are a lot of female entrepreneurs, and that number is growing immensely. Aerobus said above …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 01:31 AM
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This is the reason the entire thread is pointless. There is no given set of criteria. The given set of criteria generally takes anything men have an advantage in, even if it is just a slight advantage, even if it is caused by social forces and not natural ones, even if it based on unsubstantiated stereotypes and ignorance, and defines that as superior, and then uses women supposed failure to measure as proof of female inferiority. If I were to say the measure of physical superiority is being abl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 01:21 AM
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Because in general, male doctors clock more hours, they give back more to the community? Well considering that medical errors is one of the number one causes of death in the US, and most medical errors are caused by overworked, exhausted doctors, I find the metric at which you measure giving back to the community to be quite flawed. Point is, men may clock in more hours, but that doesn't make them better doctors, and many suck at keeping their patients alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 01:08 AM
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So you evidence that men can survive without women, but not vice versa, is citing a male hermit in the wilderness? Well then... And just for fun, what happens to thriving, woman-only communities: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/kenya/1494173/Thriving-women-only-village-is-attacked-by-jealous-locals.html
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 01:05 AM
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So basically, Ron gets laid more by multiple women because he's looking to. Barry doesn't get laid as much by multiple women because that's not what he's going for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 03:19 PM
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Probably guys who immerse themselves in women in environments where there are a lot of single women and sexual tension. As someone else said, it's a numbers game. These types of guys get rejected a lot. They don't dwell on it. They move onto the next girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 03:16 PM
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What does this have anything to do with anything? This isn't an emotional fight over whether or not men are better than women. TRP generally regards hypergamy as a feminine trait. Hypergamy is not defined by TRP as simply being attracted to other people while in relationship, but rather the liability of acting on those urges. A core tenant of TRP is that women can never be loyal to and love a man the way a man can a woman. TRP either turns a blind eye, or has some convoluted explanation about ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 02:55 PM
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You have severely misunderstood the satire on TBP of TRP's notion of "the wall." The majority of TRP believes that once a woman becomes a certain age, 25, 30, that she is more or less an undesirable shriveled up hag. They believe either this does not apply to men, or that it happens decades after it happens to women. The reality is that most people prefer partners in their own age group. For the most part, hot 18 year old college girls do not want to get with middle aged men. Does it happen? Cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 02:36 PM
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I just had to laugh when I read this. You are trying so hard to make the reality that, of course women, and men, too, are going to be attracted to other people even when they're in a relationship, something deeper, weirder, and more sinister than it really is. Being attracted to others while in a relationship is not "hypergamy." When you start acting on these urges, it is. And last I checked, men cheat, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 02:04 PM
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If that's the case, then why is NAWALT a core RP tenant?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 01:56 PM
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Calling out someone who is intentially being rude, antagonistic, and patronizing to others is not "shaming" them. Stop appropriating language you do not understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 11:32 PM
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I was a stay at home mom, aside from coaching a few hours worth of sports a week, for nearly 4 years. I was denigrated by Red Pillers a few times for this. According to them, was a lazy mooch off my husband, who was out doing respectable man stuff. There is nothing a woman can do that is right in their eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 05:25 AM
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Most rapes are not random attacks. They are perpetrated by someone the victims knows, and alcohol and other mind altering substances are involved in the majority. Who is more likely to be in a party type situation doing drugs, getting black out drunk, and such: high school/college girls or middle aged moms? My guess is that the age range of victims is similar for male rape victims. What would you think that would demonstrate? Your evidence says nothing about normal, healthy male sexuality, it de…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 05:05 AM
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I don't hate all men, just ones like you. You and your beliefs =/= all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/14 03:24 PM
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I did leave entirely for a few months. I still am unsubscribed and don't come here unless I read something particularly cantankerous posted on TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/14 02:41 AM
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The rhetoric he has spouted is very much in line with what is frequently seen on TRP. You can sit here and tell me about how he wasn't a true Alpha, how he hadn't leveled to Red Pill Master, but that is missing the point. The fact if the matter is that TRP and similar ideologies attract men like him. I have no doubt in my mind he was familiar with, and attempted to utilize RP methods, even if you think he totally fucked it up. My opinion is that it's because TRP is bunk, that it fails far more o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/14 06:50 PM
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Where did I write "ugly?" I wrote "undesirable." And there is nothing "RP" about having this opinion. TRP comes in when these guys conclude they are undesirable because they're just too nice, chivalrous, and respectful of women, and Western women are just slutty bitches who desire to be abused by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/14 04:08 PM
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What always amuses me about hearing Western men who say they are abandoning Western women in favor of exotic women is that these men are usually highly undesirable to Western women anyway. It's not always so much that these guys are abandoning Western women, rather their hatred of Western women is more of a "Fine! I didn't want to hang out with you losers anyway!" reaction to being rejected by them, resulting in a subsequent grass is greener on the other side and pedestalization mentality about …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/14 10:05 PM
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You're interpreting them as being toned with anger as you feel personally attacked by what I have written. Please stop projecting your emotions onto me. As for the rest of what you have written, sure, you can research what others say, but are ultimately basing your self-fashioned expertise on hearsay. In other words, you have no idea what you're really talking about, and have no business giving others tips or analysis of what it is really like to travel there since you are just regurgitating oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 10:52 PM
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Nothing I wrote remotely suggested anger. Incredulity? Certainly. If someone wrote their personal travel tips for backpacking through India, yet have never been backpacking nor to India, heck they haven't even been out of their home state of Pennsylvania, bringing up their lack of experiences is a valid criticism, and is not a personal attack. You have written that you are young and in college. I'm pretty sure you said that you are a freshman. You may not be exactly 18, but you're probably not o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 09:20 PM
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You're like 18 and have never even been in a relationship. You're a virgin and have admitted to having limited experience with women. So who exactly do you think you are asserting that you know anything about what it takes to operate a successful relationship, along with offering your analysis of the female psyche, specifically when it comes to sex and relationships with men? It's ridiculous. You're listing traits that you and your echo chamber want and find attractive. And yet women are the sol…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 09:00 PM
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What you have written here is not an issue, nor is it offensive. Being young, and wishing for you partner to be similar in age to you, and wanting to have children while you and your partner are young is perfectly fine. That is exactly what I have done. I chose to have my kids at 24 and 28 because I do not want to be pregnant in my 30s. I am not interested in being an older mother. But this is not the message of your original post. Your original post is that most men are not attracted to "older …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 11:21 PM
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Fertility is not a problem for women until the mid 30s. There is no significant decline in fertility until about age 35. Very, very small declines begin at about age 28. It is something like a .003% decline. At 31 that increases slightly more, but still negligible. Interestingly enough, men's fertility begins declining about 7% each year beginning at about age 41. As I wrote to SirNemisis, it such bullshit concern trolling to say that the most men want "very young women," with 24 or so being the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 10:18 PM
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I think it's more about pointing out the ridiculousness that is a young, virgin male who has clearly never had a relationship postulating about women, sex, and relationships, like he has any idea what he's talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 10:08 PM
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Yes, I did read the study you cited, and it does not contradict anything I wrote. I wrote that infants born to teenagers are more likely to die than those born to older mothers. This is unequivocally true. And yes, socioeconomic factors and mother's behavior during pregnancy do indeed play a huge role in this discrepancy. Your only interest is biological factors of maternal age. OK. The study you cited looked at if maternal age and infant morality are correlated biologically, and, in your own wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 09:51 PM
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Try again, slick. Here is national data from 2007 - 2009: https://www.marchofdimes.com/peristats/ViewSubtopic.aspx?reg=99&top=6&stop=93&lev=1&slev=1&obj=1 The data you linked to, although I did not have a chance to review all the findings, is of one study conducted only among New Jersey residents in 1989 and 1990.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 05:44 PM
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In the United States, maternal deaths due to complications from pregnancy or childbirth are exceedingly rare for all age groups. There are more deaths each year from bicycle accidents than pregnancy/birth complications. Women under 20 in the US have a mortality rate of about 7 per 100,000. Women in their 20s are about 8 in 100,000. A virtually negligible difference. Women 30 - 34 are about 9 in 100,000. After 35 is where there is a significant jump, and it goes up to about 30 in 100,000. But let…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 03:44 PM
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I'm finishing a discussion with one individual. I will no longer be replying to anymore threads here. I wanted to announce why I am leaving te sub because of the direction it has taken recently, in hopes of helping to correct it. It's feedback.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 05:24 PM
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Though quite vague, your response here is an example of more appropriate content for this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 05:18 PM
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PPD is not just an exploration of the difference between ideas. That's for you to do on TRP. It is a discussion. It is a chance to exchange ideas with your opponent to help better understand their position, and point out where you think the flaws in their stance is. Your post here brings up no points of debate. It doesn't even bring up flaws in what you believe to be TBP. It is just a testament to how awesome TRP is, while saying you are not open to entertaining anything that contradicts TRP. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 05:15 PM
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And that's what TRP is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 05:02 PM
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It seems you have mistaken this place as an infomercial for TRP. This is what did it for me: You think you can talk me into going back to my old life? You're out of your mind. For any BP guys that are reading this and are struggling with attracting women, you owe it to yourself to check this stuff out. I've been teetering back and forth on if I want to stay in this community or not, and this was the nail in the coffin. This place has become such a circle jerk. I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 04:53 PM
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BigWhiteMint asked most of the same question you have. Please see my response to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 04:37 PM
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I wasn't trying to spin it anyway. I was asking you a question, and hoping maybe you would evaluate things from another perspective. It was more of a rhetorical question, really. If you're happy, great. Only you know the real answer to this,
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 04:34 PM
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Anyone who has had any failed relationships, regardless of the number of successful ones, is completely or mostly or strongly lacking in romantic and social skills. No, not anyone, just those who have relationships that failed, gone awry, ended, however you want to frame it, and so they looked to an extremist, controversial ideology for advice to prevent relationships from ending. Going awry. Failing. However you want to frame it. I don't buy men being attracted to TRP when they are in happy, he…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 04:32 PM
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Sure I do. Tell me what experience you have as a man attracting and keeping the interest of women. So in other words, no. It's clear from the way you constantly bring up my few, not several, failed relationships, that you don't have much relationship experience. Only if you consider nine years together, three of them married, as not much experience. Who doesn't have a few failed relationships if they date regularly through high school, college, and after? You refuse to hear that I had several go…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 02:37 AM
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You must be trying to pick a fight here right? Please tell you me you're not so dim witted... Right, I'm the one trying to pick a fight. You can knock off the concern trolling, I'm not buying it. to think that dismissing another persons life experience... This is a debate sub. If they bring something up, it is fair game for me to comment on. It is not disrespectful, demeaning, or overLl unreasonable to put my two cents in. And stop trying to appropriate feminist rhetoric. PPD is not a safe space…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 02:23 AM
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When I don't observe TRP strategies, yes. Why do you keep missing this point? I get what you're saying. You don't get what I am saying. I don't care how you think TRP is working out with your current relationship. You think it works wonders. Hip hip hooray. What I am saying is that the reason that you, and most RPers are attracted to TRP is the first place is because you come from a place of failure in relationships with women. You were lacking in relationship skills. It is not a place for happy…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 11:46 PM
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What am I being dishonest about? If you guys are going to accuse me of a bunch of things, please be specific about what I have done to make you think this. So far today I have been accused of being demeaning, disrespectful, and dishonest. How?!!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 10:46 PM
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You are the one that has used the words "completely lacking", "damaged", and "bitter" in not just this post, but others. And I believe that describes most RPers. Just because a person is looking to improve a skill doesn't mean they had no skill in the first place Sure, but from what I have observed as being the case with RPers is not that they had sufficient social and romantic skills, and that they're just looking to improve them, but that they struggle immensely in this area. I obviously don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 10:40 PM
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Please, tell me how have I been disrespectful, demeaning, and am forcing my perspective onto others?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 07:44 PM
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What was the point of this comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 07:31 PM
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My mistake, I thought I was on a debate sub where you air out your grievances with other's beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 07:30 PM
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Stop dancing around what you said. You said that TRPers are completely lacking in social and romantic skills. I was demonstrating, with myself as example, that wasn't true. I've been in several relationships, some of which were long term, some of which I ended. I also have a successful professional life which requires significant social interaction. I'm not dancing around what I said at all. I said that TRP attracts men who lack in the social and romantic skills department. If they don't lack in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 07:29 PM
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I never said my other LTRs ended in failure. In any case, I was simply demonstrating that I was not "completely lacking in social and romantic skills" before TRP. You were attracted to TRP because of failed relationships. You even say later in this reply that you take responsibly for these failures. Why is it unreasonable for me to assert that your relationships skills were lacking? Even in my marriage, it was good for eight years until I started implementing the exact advice I hear from those i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 04:03 PM
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So your evidence against my assertion that TRP attracts people who have failed in LTRs is bringing up the several LTR of yours that all ended in failure?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 02:36 PM
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Sure, some intimacy is better than no intimacy, but are you happy? Do you see promiscuity with no real emotional connection as being a long term plan for your life? Again, I see this as a bandaid, as something that you will likely tire of eventually, and then where does that leave you? Exactly where you started, but with more casual sex experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 02:21 PM
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I'm not implying that they every RPer has zero sexual or long term experience, but that they lack the skills to maintain a successful LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 02:10 PM
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I have doubts you were doing things the "BP way," but instead were overbearing, stifling, and awkward in relationships. Perhaps you were dumping way too much emotional baggage too early in a relationship? The compliments you paid girls made them feel as if they were on a pedestal, and they felt anxiety over what would happen when they inevitably fall off that pedestal? Now that you no longer show the real you in relationships, and show little regard for the interests of the women you're with, ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 12:24 AM
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Manipulation usually denotes malicious intent. Are you trying to manipulate someone to do something that is or has a high chance of being potentially dangerous or hurtful to them? If yes, that's where manipulation is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 03:09 PM
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Lets be real here. TRp is not just for people looking how to communicate and not be abused. That makes it sound far more innocuous than it really is. It is a reactionary ideology for men who have had bad experiences with women, either from not being able to get or maintain one for very long, or those who have had miserable failures in relationships. It is for damaged men. And it goes without saying that I think that TRP takes one maladaptive way of thinking and replaces with another.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/14 01:23 AM
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Yes, many people out there are capable of having healthy, loving relationships where they'd sacrifice things they have going on in their own life for their partner. Men and women both. This seems to be so hard to believe among TRP because TRP is a reactionary movement for those with attraction and initimacy issues. It is not for normal, healthy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 06:27 PM
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You assume they're negative, while I think if them as a tool to relate to woman. FTFY. In what bizarro land is being incapable of love, having no loyalty or honor, and a childish behaving adult a positive thing, or at least not a negative? Not even TRP believes these things aren't negative. They say they just accept that that is how women are. You apparently misunderstood what I said. I was explaining how I came to understand the differences between men and women. I understood what you meant per…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 10:22 PM
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You assume they're negative, while I think if them as a tool to relate to woman. Yes, the beliefs that women are overgrown children who should be treated as such, are incapable of love, loyalty, honor, etc... are very negative views. What is the point in telling me your personal testament to TRP? Is that supposed to confirm how righteous it is? You were cheated on, so you obviously come from a place of some serious emotions. How do you know TRP is not just telling you what you want to hear? Conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 09:02 PM
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The RP is partly about re-examining women as group, and also about self-improvement. I know it is, but I think many RPers fail to see the hypocrisy in coming here and telling me that it is unfair to make assertions about men based on the behavior of some men, that those men certainly do not represent all men, and then turn around and treat women in that way, and act incredulous toward those who use the same arguments they used in defense of men, in defense of women. How do you feel about redpill…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 08:49 PM
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No matter what I feel about a person, I can control the way I behave around them. You're talking about having an open mind, which does not necessarily correlate to observable behavior. Sure, most certainly when it comes to short term and shallow relationships, but I firmly believe that with time, the facade will fall. You'd never suspect that I believe female hypergamy is a reality and that female entitlement and solipsism run rampant unless I choose to have that conversation with you. So you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 08:27 PM
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Regarding an adult as a child, just because of their gender, is a great example of TRP advocating dehumanizing treatment of women. There was a recent comment that talked about a man confiscating his wife's phone to assert dominance over her. There have been many comments about enforcing diet restrictions on women you're with. Today there was a very highly upvoted comment that said single mothers should only be used for sexual degradation. Viewing and treating women as being inherently emotional …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 08:22 PM
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How is not pigeonholing people into gendered tropes a "non-behavior?" That's half of how to treat someone as a person. The other half is to not make this ridiculous villain caricature of their gender because you're emotional you have social/relationship/intimacy problems. There really is nothing more to it than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 08:05 PM
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While I agree with you, I don't think this is very good advice for RPers. Many RPers believe they have treated women with kindness, consideration, and respect. Whether they really were treating women this way or not is irrelevant. Telling them to be kind, considerate, and respectful is nebulous advice for men who, and I am not saying this to be insulting to them, but men who really don't understand where things went wrong, and need things spelled out for them. You have to be more specific than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 08:00 PM
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His was the very first comment on this thread. It's just a bizarre, circle jerking rant adding absolutely nothing to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 07:54 PM
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In my first comment I explained the difference in how TRP regards men, versus how they regard women. Im not sure on how you didn't infer this, but my point was that men are treated like people in TRP. Women are treated as "other." Men are treated as individuals. Very little is assumed about a man's character until proven otherwise, and even then, their behavior is not constantly scrutinized with this ulterior motive to pigeonhole everything they do into a male trope. Women are treated the opposi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 07:49 PM
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My point is that I believe TRP views men in one way, the neo-liberal view, as you asserted here, and women in another way. Men are individuals to be judged as individuals, especially when the behavior is negative. This is not necessarily true when it comes to positive behaviors. Women are a collective to be judged as a collective, especially when the behavior is bad. This is not necessarily true when it comes to positive behaviors. This allows TRP to vilify women, to draw conclusions about women…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 07:40 PM
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False dichotomy. Just assume a normal bell curved distribution. Most fall somewhere in the middle and can be generalized, things do not apply to 100%, and individual differences may apply although generalizations hold. It's not a false dichotomy. Hey, I'm just going by what I have observed to be the way TRP regards men versus women. My point is that TRP gives men the benefit of the doubt. When men does something bad, say cheat on his significant other, there is usually some explanation for why h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 07:27 PM
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If it wasn't true, there wouldn't be a stereotype that's been around since the beginning of history. The stereotype has not been around "since the beginning of history," and the existence of a stereotype does not make something true. That's a terrible platform to argue from. That saying means the same thing as the argument I used for men; not all men are like that (violent) so it's unfair to make a gross generalization. That was my point that it is unfair to make gross generalizations. You and T…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 07:14 PM
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Ok then, elaborate on how I have failed to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 07:01 PM
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Patriarchy is exactly why we have that stereotype. There was a point in the western world, not too long ago, that this stereotype was used to keep women away from higher education. As for your claim that only some men are violent, so we cannot judge all men by this metric, whenever anyone tries to argue this about women, TRP snarkily replies "NAWALT." If that is not a good enough excuse to refrain from making sweeping generalization about women, why is it for men? TRP likes to use often hypothet…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 05:18 PM
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Right... Criticizing an ideology is not bigotry. This is fruitless. You're a troll. Goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 04:55 PM
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So if Red Pillers commit an offense, that makes it okay for you to commit the same offense? If Red Pillers act bigoted, that allows you to commit acts of bigotry without being a hypocrite? How am I being bigoted? Because I have come to a conclusion about the difference between how RPers regard men and women based on conservations with them on a debate forum dedicated toward debating that ideology? Are you upset with the realness and the rawness of the emotion of these men? Is it something that f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 04:45 PM
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There are some general differences between men and women as a group. These cannot be used to prejudge an individual. I think TRP places way too much emphasis on the differences and understates the overwhelming similarities. TRP will also take a kernel of truth, say that women place more emphasis on a man's finances, and come to absurd conclusions: women only care about your status, will only ever love you for that, and will drop you like a bad habit, not even looking back, if someone with a high…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 04:15 PM
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The lack of an answer? You posted this an hour ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 04:03 PM
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TRP rails against this notion of putting women on a pedestal. Women are not infallible goddesses to be worshipped. She will do something human to shatter that delusion. The pedestal is dehumanizing. But I maintain that with swallowing TRP, you have just found yourself on the opposite spectrum of the pedestal. Women are no longer the infallible goddesses, but rather spoiled children who need to be treated as such lacking some of the most basic, enduring human qualities like the ability to love, l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 03:58 PM
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Because they have low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 04:20 AM
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Because they think men like it and to appear less intimidating. Considering how much RP talks about how they want a meek, submissive, youthful gal, can you see how some women think baby voices attract men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 03:57 AM
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Some women talk in baby voices, therefore women are mentally children, and should be treated as such. Wow, what sound, irrefutable logic. You have to be a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 02:46 AM
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That is intentionally taking risks where you are virtually guaranteed to have a negative consequence. What risks do you suggest women take to not be raped? Don't dress sexy? Don't consume alcohol? Don't go to parties? Never find yourself alone with a man? Most rapes occur with someone the victim knows and trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 07:14 PM
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When men vent, it is usually just called comraderie. My husband hosts game night every week at our house for anywhere between 4 to 10 guys, most of whom are his coworkers. They vent about anything and everything: the dumb decisions their bosses have made, how much of an obnoxious and incompetent idiot this one guy is, the shitty new policies at work, etc... They're not sitting around discussing solutions, they're just getting things off their minds and commiserating. Everyone vents, women are ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 06:55 PM
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The reasons people have an issue with such advice is that you can take all these precautions, and still end up a victim of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 06:26 PM
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I would love to see your evidence, any evidence at all, that even suggests that women take more pointless risks than men. I expect I'll be waiting for some time. In the mean time, you don't get to assign a trait to a group when that trait is regarded as indicative of superiority, while asserting another group lacks this trait, then turn around and say the group who lacks the superior trait does indeed have it, but only in circumstances when the generally superior trait manifests in a negative, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 06:26 AM
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So you're telling me men don't take frivolous risks for minimum gain, that such behavior is a female phenomenon? Clearly, the risk this guy sexing his underaged student was for the reasonable gain of a few minutes of backseat banging. This guy has his priorities straight, unlike frivolous women, illogical women. More men taking legitimate risks for reasonable gain. Blow jobs = righteous risk for righetous gain The amount of Red Pill hamstering going on in this thread is hilarious, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 05:55 AM
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Who's talking about walking away from relationships? I'm talking about your assertion that women are irrational children because of stories of women getting mad at their significant others for having dreams about them cheating on her. If you can use this as an example of women being irrational children, what do my examples say about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 04:32 AM
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Women get upset for the stupidest shit, such as getting mad at an SO for something that happened in A DREAM. They'll cry about it, pout, and basically throw a tantrum, expecting a man to cave. We read countless anecdotes like this. As opposed to men who never throw tantrums over stupid shit, like being cut of in traffic, having a football game interrupted by a crying baby, getting upset over someone texting in the movie theater, a World of Warcraft game, or in the case of my best friend, nearly …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 04:18 AM
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The TRP and pick up artistry in general goes to show the length men are willing to go for female attention, and what happens to men who don't get female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 04:02 AM
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Do you believe that women, by analyzing men, know what men want and think better than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 03:59 AM
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a newbie TRPer has a huge ego problem to overcome. By treating women as children, when the girl bruises his ego, he doesn't really feel upset and go into narcissistic rage if he can remember it's only a child telling him these things. So this is less about women's behavior and more saving face for your ego? A kind of "imagine everyone in their underwear" trick?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 03:57 AM
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What percentage of divorced women do you believe receive alimony? How does women receiving alimony dissolve them of responsibility of their actions? Lastly, how is this one example indicative of women being absolved of "most of their responsibility" in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 03:48 AM
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I can say the same about my generation of men who spend their days playing video games, watching porn, and are generally satisfied with less than mediocrity, like living in their parents basement and blaming the economy for their woes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 03:22 AM
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Everyone banters and teases with each other. Just today a man was holding a baby at my work. The baby has a full head of hair, dad is bald. Another man joked that the baby clearly got her daddy's hair. How do you handle men who are throwing fits?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 03:18 AM
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So NAMALT? How convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 12:45 AM
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Emotional maturity is a part of mental capacity. Mental capacity does not just refer to IQ. Now with that being said, the pre-frontal cortex of human beings does not fully develop until the 20s. This means that the biggest difference between the mental capacity of adults and teenagers is risk assessment. There is no biological basis for the assertion that women behave like teeangers. If TRP wants to assert that culturally, women behave like teenagers, it is what it is. But they need to understan…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 12:29 AM
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The assertion is that women, unlike men, behave like overgrown children. acknowledging that many times men behave in the same way too is acknowleging that contrary to RP beliefs, childlike behavior among adults is not just gender specific to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 12:16 AM
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No, that's not it. The guy I am talking about was the OP of the thread, and wrote a pretty substantial analysis of the state of TRP now versus when he first joined the community. My guess is it was probably deleted. Maybe I can find the Blue Pill thread talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 08:02 PM
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Edit: I realized I was not wording things as clearly as I wanted, so I made some clarifications within 10 minutes of posting this. What are the precautions women should take to prevent being raped? Not dress sexy? Never go to parties? Don;t trust any men? This is where rape is different than walking through a bad neighborhood, that you know is bad, and then getting mugged. You can tell girls how to take some precautions that may reduce their chance of being a victim of sexual assault. Sure. Make…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 07:36 PM
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I know you like to pretend you have a big strong husband and at the same time hate all men, but you should try harder to showcase your misandry. I'm getting really tired of these smartass little one liners you add at the end of most of your interactions here, trying to insult those with whom you are debating. If certain mods are protecting you from this obnoxious behavior, I'm out of here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 07:03 PM
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Why do you assume that ChlorideFloss is the outlier here? How many of you guys have been in barfights, or have almost had a situation escalate into a physical altercation as a teenager or adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 07:00 PM
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The privileged, young women you describe are exactly the type of women TRP wants, and gets, so it's understandable that when someone sees 90% of the women they date/come into contact with exhibiting these entitled, childish behaviors they start to think AWALT. Why does TRP want a girl with whom they have an issue with behavior? It's clear TRP possesses contempt toward women who behave a certain way, but they want these women? That doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 06:57 PM
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I think that women suffer fewer consequences than men, (though not necessarily by their own doing, men enable this), and therefore have a different view on responsibility. I think men translate this to childish behavior. When women are beaten by a significant other or raped, a question that is often posed is what could she have done to prevent this? Was she dressed provocatively? She was asking for it. In some cultures, women have to dress a certain way, or they are accused of being a slut who i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 06:50 PM
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You just acknowledged that men can act childish and emotional, just like they accuse women of doing. If some men try to join a movement to channel that into something else, that is fine, that doesn't change the base of the assertion that women are the ones who are inherently and culturally overgrown teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 04:27 PM
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About a year ago a Red Piller who had been on the forum since its inception wrote his opinion on the state of the sub, and he was not happy. One of the things he brought up with this notion that women are teenagers. He wrote that it is not that women have the mental capacity, including the self control of teenagers, that women stop maturing at a certain point, and this permeates every aspect of their lives, but rather it meant that the same stereotypes that apply to high school girls in regards …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 02:50 PM
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That doesn't mean the information is incorrect, it's just a legal disclaimer that the website has not independently verified the claims of its sources. Here are a few other sources that corroborate the 15% claim. 1 2 This states that in the US, 400,000 people received alimony in 2010. Between 2000 - 2011 there were between 10 - 11 million divorces in the US.. I remember reading that the average alimony payment is for two years, so if around one million people divorce each year, and 400,000 are r…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 06:11 PM
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The point seems to be, from TRP perspective, that alimony is standard, par for the course award women receive upon divorce. It's actually relatively rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 04:31 PM
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Alimony is awarded in about 15% of divorces. Source.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 04:04 PM
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Alimony is awarded in only 15% of divorce cases. Source. That's a far cry from a woman being "guaranteed" alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 03:57 PM
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How common do you believe alimony is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 03:48 PM
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Right... TRP's position is that women are more self absorbed, selfish, narcissistic, blah blah blah, however you want to define solipcism, than men. The fact of the matter is that no, narcissism, which is often used as synonomously with solipcism, is rare, and men display it far more than women. The first article I cited was meant to illustrate that narcissitic men are attracted to TRP, and your unfounded assertions about female behavior and thought processes are nothing more than delusions caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 02:19 AM
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Here ya go
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 01:56 PM
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I've had Red Pillers explain to me on here that due to inherent female solipsism, women will never be able to understand men the way men can understand women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 05:28 AM
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Soooo it's true because TRP says its true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 05:06 AM
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So it's true because TRP's anecdotes say its true, and anyone, especially someone on a debate forum, who questions this is taking your indisputable facts personally? This is just hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 04:55 AM
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In addition to what RunnerManBoy has presented, studies show that men are more narcissitic than women, and they direct that hostility toward women: Source There is absolutely nothing to back up your assertions aside from anecdotes from TRP. And if you consider the source I cited, we can see why they have assigned such traits to women, and reject evidence to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 04:50 AM
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I hope you can realize how ridiculous this sounds. I'm not saying this to troll or patronize you, but to swear up and down that women are more self centered than men, and the only proof you have is your experience, really demonstrates a lack of critical thinking and self awareness. You have no proof besides your own perception, yet you can seriously sit here and accuse women of being the self centered ones? You believe your own little view of women is indisputable fact, that you understand how w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 04:31 AM
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Being confident and assertive is not being a jerk or an asshole. One thing that confuses me about RPers is what seems to be this belief that if you act anyway contrary to the exalted, pedestaled treatment of women you previously thought women liked, and was respectful, you must be a jerk. It's like there is no middle ground between the two extremes of treating women as infallible, ethereal beings to be worshipped, and useless gutter trash to be abused. I think TRP, with their often polarized thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/14 01:41 PM
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So everything women think is a logical fallacy? Please. This is just a convenient way to dismiss female opinions and perspectives, allowing you to define them for your convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 03:54 AM
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Feminists claim they want equality but what they really want is power without responsibility. They desire both male and female privilege consolidated into one, thus upsetting the gender balance. They want the privileges of being women (privilege such as being economically provided for, getting opportunities based on their beauty and protection from physical harm by others) Show me one feminist arguing that women should be provided for, and don't use social services as an example, because the vas…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 08:48 PM
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Her issue is not that her fellow students viewed her videos. She has explicitly stated that she is not embarrassed or ashamed by her career in porn. Her outrage is over the harrassment she has been receiving, hence why the doxxing her ruined her life. You are really trying to mischaracterize the situation. Here is her story in her own words.. Nothing about being upset over peopl finding out she is in porn. She is upset about the endless harassment she has faced since being outed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 05:45 AM
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I used Google for all those examples. I'm not sure why that is relevant and what your point is about that. Again, Bond is the main character in the films. Men make up most characters in the overwhelming majority of films. Why is it surprising that the majority of action, good or bad, happens to male characters? And what does having a Bechdel test for men have anything to do with what you have written? You asserted that men are invisible unless being accused of or exposed as villains. Now you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 05:41 AM
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Your characterization of the Duke student and feminist perspectives on the matter is a strawman. The outcry from the student and feminists was over the harassment she was receiving from fellow students, not about her privacy being supposedly violated because people watched her videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 05:17 AM
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The words "man" and "men" are only used when reporting a crime committed by one. When men are hurt, or do heroic things, they are referred to only by their job titles. "Man accused of raping college student." "Twelve coal miners killed in explosion." (all men, but not mentioned) "Rescuers dig infant from rubble after earthquake." (all men, not mentioned) Examples where "man" is used in a headline highlighting positive behavior: Man saves dog from icy river Man saves woman from burning vehicle Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 05:03 AM
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Men are invisible in pop culture and the media? Are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 03:23 AM
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When someone states that the only reason someone would think TRP thinks women cheat more than men is because of solipcism that is dismissing the criticism as being frivolous and unreasonable. The apple and oranges example is an incredibly poor analogy because when TRP often talks about women cheating, they compare women's behavior to men's to remind their readers that men and women are not alike, or as TRP likes to put it, women are not men with tits. As I stated, TRP asserts that women, not men…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 02:47 PM
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What do you mean by "date down?" In terms of finances, social status?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 04:35 AM
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But that's not what TRP says. TRP says women cheat because they are hypergamous. They do not really love men the way men love women, and are always looking to trade up if a more savory option comes along. Women do not possess honor, loyalty, integrity, etc... like men do. So when TRP uses women cheating to confirm what I wrote above, it's perfectly fair to point out that men cheat too, often times more than women. But then TRP typically hamsters about why men cheating is not as bad, or even just…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 04:31 AM
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We have very different concepts of interesting. Yours sounds kind of boring. I jumped on your example? Oh you poor victim. I'll keep your sensitive constitution in mind. Do you have anything to say to my point other than making a fuss, again, about my tone? And yet, I have never once heard a feminist push for women to have equality in being forced to register for selective service. First of all, feminists were proponents of allowing women in combat. Why would feminists focus on including women i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 01:47 AM
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Have at it, Playing video games reduces sex differences in spatial skills Then it must be quite surprising that they are more likely to do maths and science homework and get better grades by quite a margin. And not surprising at all if they then rank their maths and science skills lower vis a vis boys who get similar test scores with lesser effort. It demonstrates the stereotype threat quite well. Girls do the homework and therefore get better grades, but are still not as confident in their math…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 01:29 AM
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Trend. Rule. Now your just quibbling about terminology. Either way, I can estimate that if I ask 100 random men and 100 random women a spatial reasoning question (to use your example), more men than women would be correct. There is quite a difference between general trends and rules. Rules are rigid standards in which there is little to no deviation. Trends describe a particular direction data has taken. Men, on average score one standard deviation higher than women when it comes to spatial reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 12:52 AM
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These are the rules. Just because an exception exists, doesn't invalidate the 100100 instances where the rule applies. They are not rules, they are trends. Trends refer to a general direction data takes. Take spatial reasoning, for example. Results for both genders exist on a bell curve, and these bell curve largely overlap. Men, as a group average, score one standard deviation above women. There are, however, some women who score higher than men, and some men who score lower than the average fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 08:45 PM
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That should be "women will always be the inferior ones."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 06:09 PM
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When TRP makes assertions about a woman's inherent nature, discusses the evolutionary psychology and biological implications, I think it is fair to also look at how social influences affect whatever aspect they are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 05:59 PM
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There are some subjects in which men, as a group, are stronger than women, and some subjects in which women, as a group, are stronger in than men. These are general trends. They are not rules. They do not apply to individuals. Next, some of these difference are social, some are not. We should not just blindly accept any difference in men and women as inherent. The word "equal," in regards to people, is not synonymous with "different." It denotes status. Status denotes worth. In patriarchal socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 05:41 PM
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When someone cites a study that is blocked by a pay wall, that is a valid criticism of why it cannot be used as a source here, because it cannot be properly critiqued. Criticizing the methodology of a study is valid. Evidence of BPers widely not understanding statistics? TRP has claimed men are not hypergamous. I have had this debate with Vornash here. TRP claims that hypergamy is a female trait that proves women are incapable of love like a man is. From that stance alone it is reasonable to ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 03:07 PM
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I actually misinterpreted what evilfuckingsociopath had quoted, which is why I didn't bother to continue to defend my position here for this one. But nice accusation there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 02:52 PM
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If you're good enough at deception the other person doesn't know they're being deceived. Again, good luck with that in a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/14 01:51 PM
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One study was not gender focused, and one study did not find gender difference. You are ignoring the ten other studies or the totality of the message when taken together. You fail to see the significance of this. You are making a lot of conclusions about women based on these female specific studies, yet the two you present that studied both genders, showed a striking similarity among what men and women find attractive in short term mates, with the only difference I see is that men rate smiling w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/14 01:40 PM
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Of course, the studies say more then that. No they don't. Every single study you cited was talking about initial attraction, and initial attraction only, which affects the partners chosen for short term sexual relationships. Many of them went onto to conclude that these traits are not only applicable to long term relationships, but detrimental. What the research is saying is that women are attracted to the sort appatitive aggressive man who can kill a wildebeest with his bare hands. The research…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/14 12:49 PM
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Well gee, when universities did not permit female scientists, refused to allow them access to the labs, and science publications refused to publish female scientists based solely on their gender, as just somewhat examples of women being actively kept from science... And even if they were in it, from having their names not recognized to attitudes of female incompetence and examples of discrimination that are still present today, I wonder why most of the great scientists of the past were all men? …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/14 02:53 AM
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You can't change others unless they want to change. The girls who try to change a guy always end up disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/14 01:21 AM
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So women are always looking for commitment, never casual encounters, until the man establishes what their relationship is? No. And I'm not saying she likes either one more than the other, you are. I have made it clear that we are talking about two types of attraction: lust and love. Who does she like more? It depends on the context of what she wants. So she gets her alpha fucks to commit. Unless he abandons his dark triad and aggressive traits, you're looking at a tumultuous relationship that wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/14 01:02 AM
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Romance novels go by another name: fantasy novels. They are not a reflection of reality, but rather infatuation/sex fantasies. Again, you cannot base a relationship on this. Dark triad traits are not desirable beyond casual sex hookups. When applied to long term relationships, disaster results. If you disgaree with this assertion, say you do and why, because all you have been doing is ignoring the assertion, not offering any reasoning for why you feel it is not accurate, and just repeating the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/14 12:52 AM
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You're assuming and claiming a lot about this one cliche. Where is your evidence that this is commonly asked by women after casual sex encounters? My friend wonders why her boyfriend won't commit to her by officially moving in with her even though he practically already lives with her. They are monogamous. To conclude that a woman asks why a man won't commit is the result of women chasing after their one night stands because they respect them more than they ever could a man with whom they are in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/14 10:43 PM
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Yes, you most certainly can keep infatuation alive in a relationship. However trying to apply many Red Pill ideals, such as dark triad traits and aggression, to long term relationships, is not the way to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/14 10:05 PM
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If women respect these guys, why don't they want anything to do with them beyond one night stands?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/14 10:03 PM
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The studies cited here can be succinctly summed up in something that is not revolutionary: There is a big difference between love and infatuation, and you cannot base a relationship on the latter. There are certain traits that are undesirable in a long term relationship, and are only desirable in one night stands. If you try to apply these traits to a long term relationship, as one study wrote, you are maladaptive. It does not work. And your reply to that is that you should try really hard to ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/14 08:44 PM
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The conclusion the study came to is that women find men with low sperm count attractive, as indicative by their voice, because other women won't find them attractive, and therefore these men are more likely to stick around and raise a child because they're not out there sexing other women. So women find them attractive because other women won't. Lol, ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/14 05:26 PM
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You'll be attractive to women because you aren't attractive to women. Wut?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/14 04:53 PM
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Let me preface this by saying that my computer is broken so i am trying to type all this out on my phone, and quoting is a nightmare. You seem to be under the impression that many Blue Pillers believe that the TRP is just straight up wrong. For me personally, that is not my issue with it. As I have written many times, TRP does often have a kernel of truth to it, but then it warps it, misinterprets it, and often comes to absurd conclusions. Many times it works backwards: it starts with a conclusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/14 04:31 PM
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This is false. There is a shortage of certain types of doctors like family care and internal medicine physicians because no one wants to go into these fields because the pay is very low compared to specialists. Many people predict preventative care, routine checkups, and minor procedures will become the domain of nurse practioners. Other than this, there currently is no shortage. However, some organizations have predicted that with the Affordable Healthcare Act that there will be a shortage of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 06:56 PM
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That's fine what you do in your own house. I don't understand it one bit, but whatever, it doesn't affect me. However for you to try to pin your beliefs about your leaderships abilities and relationship dynamics on other women is offensive and ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 03:35 AM
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Here my issue with this: it assumes that the male way of doing things is the superior way, and women must be measured against this metric, and where they do not match that male metric nearly identically, they are deemed inferior or problematic. Why is a male doctor working 60 hours a week superior to a female doctor only working 30? The author assumes that a male doctor must be burdened with picking up that extra slack, but that's not how it works. What would happen is someone else who wants to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 03:27 AM
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Suggesting not even mentioning when your man misses an exit on the highway, even if that means driving all the way out of state. It is not your job to call him out on his mistakes, it is your job to dote on his awesome masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/14 10:11 PM
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LOL, ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/14 09:54 PM
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That's not your call to make. You have no moral authority with Red Pill men. You then go onto say: TRP values masculinity, and part of masculinity is being judgmental. Accurately assessing your own value, and that of other's, is a critical life skill for men. So it's ok for Red Pill men to make calls of value, and pass judgement on others, but no one has the right to do the same to RP men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/14 09:03 PM
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This is the definition of pedestal from the OED: "a position in which someone is greatly or uncritically admired." RPW suggests admiring and adoring your man under all circumstances, and never criticizing him. The definition there has nothing inherently to do with respect. Pedestals are disrespectful, in my opinion, because you treat an imperfect, fallible human being as otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/14 08:54 PM
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Not tearing down your partner and thinking they should be free of any and all criticism, are not analogous, because criticism is not inherently tearing someone down (unless you believe they are infallible, which, again, is a prime example of putting someone on a pedestal). Making someone immune to criticism is holding them in excessive esteem, using your very own definition of putting someone on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/14 08:24 PM
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RPW has advised the women there to never challenge their man under any circumstances. An example they used was if you and your man are driving, and he misses the exit, do not correct him, even if that means driving all the way into the next state. Giving someone immunity from any sort of criticism is a prime example of holding someone in excessive esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/14 08:02 PM
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I am ashamed. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 12:12 AM
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I agree. Goodnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 04:50 AM
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Why are you trying to change the subject? Why I am still responding to you, regardless of how I feel about you, is irrelevant to anything I have written.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 04:34 AM
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You stopped short of calling names, but your first post was nowhere near a proper argument, was a personal attack upon myself, and was not at all related to anything I wrote. If anyone should be banned for not properly addressing points, it's yourself. The point of what I wrote was to hold up a mirror to how you treat others. You find it unreasonable that I made some assumptions about you? You feel personally attacked? Welcome to the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 04:33 AM
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"Solipsistic" simply is. It isn't an insult. Another red pill concept. You can't help it. It's how you are made. You, as a women, are a status-seeking (resource acquiring) machine that will do whatever it takes to provide for your offspring. It's incredibly insulting, and patronizing. Just because you feel it isn't doesn't mean others won't. You didn't even address so many of my points, you just dismissed me as being solipsistic, called my points "shit tests." That is an ad hominem. That's circl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 04:28 AM
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First, I never utilized an ad hominem in this discussion with you. That is a complete misinterpretation of my post. (That you may believe this is true demonstrates yet another red pill idea: that for women, there is no logic, only feelings. Feelings = logic.) So you use an ad hominem to claim you haven't used ad hominems. You're using something about me (being a woman) to evade addressing my points, instead choosing to dismiss my arguments by calling my solipsistic, emotional and not logical, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 04:18 AM
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I just want to say that as someone who's lived his whole life with artists and is himself an artist, I've seen it firsthand over and over. LOL, not even an hour ago you got onto me, calling me "solipcistic," for sharing an anecdote. I have simply been studying this subject for decades. Oh, ok, I guess that settles it all. Look at the scientific literature yourself. Men are interested in youth, health, fertility; women in resources. But that's not what we're debating, now is it? Your original ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 04:07 AM
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Right....... And you fail. When you can construct a proper debate, please feel free to attempt to engage me. You're a little confused about the purpose of this sub. If you're just going to avoid debate to patronize others with ad hominem after ad hominem, among others, and circle jerk about TRP's theories, "enlightening" us, you need to mosey back on over to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 03:52 AM
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So... do you have anything to say to me other than calling me names (solipsistic) and concern trolling with this "I'm just trying to enlighten you" patronizing bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 03:36 AM
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Or she could just be attracted to artistic people. It;s utterly laughable that you think women go with broke, brooding artists because they believe these guys will one day strike gold with their art. TRP starts with a preconceived notions: women are only attracted to the wealth men can provide. And then you do any mental gymnastics possible to make things conform with your little worldview. TRP has a word for this... Something about small rodents. I'm not going to deny that many women are attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 03:34 AM
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Second, you don't know me. No, that's not an accurate description of my experience. Ditto. You're getting indignant because I made some assumptions about you and your experiences, but that is exactly what you have done to women. You can sure dish it out, but taking it? And TRP loves anecdotes. I mean really loves their anecdotes. But as soon as a woman shares an anecdote after an accusation against her? "Solipsistic female! See, you're soooooo solipsistic. Red Pill theory confirmed." Please. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 03:21 AM
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So then I guess how much money a man makes isn't the only thing that matters to women as a whole, now is it? That was the point of dangerfaceisback's comment against an assertion that says otherwise. Men express preferences in the women they seek. TRP wants a young, low partner count HB8 or above. Yet when women do it they're basically shallow, one dimensional opportunists incapable of love and emotional intimacy. They're just status seekers. Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 07:21 PM
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In a capitalist, material society, not in and of itself. People are defined by what they do and how much money they make. You can be the best artist in the world, but of no one is buying your shit, or you're not even putting it out there for consumption, then you are not deriving any status from your talent. Your status in society is broke, starving artist, or as a lot of people call them, losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 06:58 PM
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In what world is dating a broke artist a status symbol? I don't think you know what that means. And are you saying that most men have no preferences or standards when seeking a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 06:45 PM
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That hamster sure is busy moving those goal posts. What dangerfaceisback is replying to is the assertion that women cannot love men, rather their sole motivation for getting in a relationship with a man is his money. He/she points out that there are plenty of women, even whole stereotypes, that have women going for men without ample financial resources. And your response is that nuh uh, that's not a good example because talented and artistic men are special and not like the average guy. That's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 06:36 PM
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Oh, I guess that explains why I dropped my husband like a bad habit when he got laid off, was unemployed for a few months, and got another job making only 40% of what he was at the job he got laid off from, for a year and a half. Oh wait, shit, that's not what happened. Let me guess: you have never had success with women. You don't have much money, therefore you conclude that the reason women don't want you is because they only want guys with money. Assuming its true that women only want guys fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 06:31 PM
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On a sidenote, how do you feel about women aborting against a man's wishes?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 06:49 AM
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I just want to make sure I am getting your position straight: your goal is to shift all negative repercussions of a pregnancy that the father does not want onto the woman and potentially the child? Men can impregnate women and walk away scot-free in your perfect world, and it's up to women to clean up that mess, which means she will have to make a choice that may ruin her life? How is this remotely reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 06:31 AM
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So ruining a woman's life is ok? She has to either chose to be forced into abortion/adopting out a child she wants, or a life of poverty, against her will?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 06:26 AM
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As opposed to growing up in poverty.... Now do you understand why child support was instituted? So children do not grow up in poverty if their father has the means to keep them out of it. I believe that the child support system needs to be reformed, don't get me wrong, but what you advocate is for the power in reproductive rights to be shifted from women to men. Anyway you slice it, you want men to be able to walk away from women they get pregnant with absolutely no repercussions, and for women …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 05:54 AM
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If she has to accept the consequences of her decision to, why does he not have to?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 05:48 AM
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So does this guy just sit around and brainstorm shitty things you can do to someone in a relationship, and idiots lap in up because of this novelty of "women want the exact opposite of what they say/society teaches you?" Go ahead, follow any of that advice. Ignore your girl's calls, hit on her friends, cheat on her. I look forward to your "How following The Red Pill's advice ruined my life" posts on TBP. I mean really, how dumb do you have to be to buy into this shit? You've been had if you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 06:32 PM
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Maybe it would, maybe it won't. If you do succeed in making her jealous, my guess is that she'd be over it the next day. And again, it would also make him feel even worse, and you're dragging an entirely innocent party into the whole equation, which is just embarrassing. So congrats, you may get a few hours of attempting to one up each other up with someone else, assuming the girl OP brings home doesn't say "WTF?" and leaves before anything happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 01:55 AM
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Or rather if she feels "gina" tingles she's going to have sex. That's preordained in her mind, by TRP perspective. So basically you believe that whenever a woman is attracted to another man, she will cheat on her significant other, no ifs, ands, or buts about it? When a guy's behavior doesn't fit the way she believes him to be, the woman will react emotionally. The vice versa is the exact reason why so many men are attracted to TRP: women's behavior didn't fit the way you believe them to be (ped…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 01:46 AM
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"Accidentally" leave a rotting fish, chicken, and bananas is some hidden spot to stink up the place, the kind of smell that doesn't leave for days. Spend the day looking for a job, or gearing up to move back home. And run. Run far away from that psychopath of a woman. The guy said being in the same room as the two is going to be too difficult for him to handle, so suggesting he sit around there and mess with them, or even worse, try to bring his own girl to the apartment, would just make a bad s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/14 01:18 AM
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How is that definition of solipsism and different than how TRP views, well everything? I have repeatedly been told here that as a woman, my perspective on my own experiences, opinions, and likes and dislikes is invalid, that Red Pillers know more about me than I do myself. This is because TRP is, according to Red Pillers, an objective analysis of women, sex, and relationships . They know its objective fact because their own experiences confirm it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 06:29 PM
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Narcissism: 1.3/7% Machiavellianism: 1.8/15% Psychopathy: 1/3% Question to Red Pillers: Do you guys think you would have always scored as high as those of you who have posted your scores, or did you have to work your way up these ladders?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 09:41 PM
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So you are not a computer geek. Yet you speak for those who are. Your question to me was if I have worked in tech before. Yes, I have, but your only response is that is trying to pull this elitist attitude, basically saying I am not nearly as geeky as you. First of all, you don't have to be employed in tech to be a "computer geek," but seriously, you entire rant about geeks vs. non-geeks is so laughably childish. Who said that? Why are you trying so hard to put words into other people's mouths s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 07:33 PM
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Please refer to the links I added about STI rates and people not being entirely forthcoming with their partner counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 12:34 AM
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Are you a woman in tech? Or are you talking for the women in tech which is basically what the real women in tech are complaining about? I have worked in Tier 1 tech support, but I currently do not. My husband began in Tier 1 tech support, to IT director, and is now in development. Back when he was in IT, my husband had to call a meeting with the group he supervised over the treatment of their female coworkers and superiors. They would make comments to him, thinking he shared their anti-woman out…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 12:31 AM
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The book you are referencing, Babysitter: An American History by Miriam Fornam-Brunell, talks about the phenomenon of babysitting beginning in the 1920s, but not really flourishing until after WWII, which would include the time frame of the the anecdotal experiences of the Redditors to whom I linked. Prior to the rise of the notion of the teenager, caring for young children was a chore that was delegated to older female children. One popular babysitting guide went against this traditional wisdom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 10:05 PM
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What? I'm stupid because I would have no issue with a babysitting agency sending me a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 09:53 PM
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His gender would not be an issue in him babysitting my children. As a matter of fact my daughters has been cared for by a male babysitter, before. I think you have been raised in a society that says men are not supposed to be caregivers for children, and if they do, there could be something "funny" with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 08:31 PM
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This was brought up on Reddit once, and from some anecdotal evidence from many older Redditors, this was not the case: http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1pbr8l/til_that_throughout_the_20th_century_boys_were/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 08:30 PM
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The average number of sexual partners reported by American women is four partners. Yes, there could be some discrepancy between women (and men's) true number of partners. This study suggests that women will under report their number of partners by an average of one less partner than they really have been with (men slightly over report). So when you see the average number of partners for a man or woman, you can usually give or take one. Only nine percent of women report having more than 15 partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 08:15 PM
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It seems the more freedom women have in a society the more they tend to go for traditional female jobs and stay away from technical ones. Aside from jobs that require brute strength, what are defined as a male and female jobs is largely arbitrary. Just 40 years ago women made up 9% of physicians and 4% of attorneys in the United States. Now women make up over 1/3 of these fields. Computer programming and computing were once defined as clerical work, work suitable for women. Source And the way th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 07:49 PM
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Buckingham and other experts dispute the idea that the variance in happiness is caused by women carrying a bigger burden of work at home, the “second shift.” They say that while women still do more cooking, cleaning and child-caring, the trend lines are moving toward more parity, which should make them less stressed. I have discussed this before. Buckingham's analysis is short sighted. I think a lot of the stress comes not from just having the pressure to maintain domestic duties and a professio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 07:25 PM
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You have missed the point. Of course women don't fully understand what it is to be male, but for Red Pillers to claim that they know what it is like to be female because ya'll are experts on the female mind, yet they have never once seen women make an attempt to understand what it is to be male, is just wrong.. My example was to point out that men are not presented as this foreign "other" to women from a very young age. Women are taught to identify with male characters. The vice versa is not tau…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 06:18 AM
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Is that what you garnered from that comment? Really? The claim is that women never try to put themselves in men's shoes, whereas men try tirelessly to understand women, and therefore RPers are experts on the female psyche, more knowledgable about how women think than women themselves, but women cannot claim the same about men because, again, women don't try to put themselves into men's shoes. My response is women don't have to try to see things from men's perspectives because men's perspectives …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/14 09:52 PM
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That's fine and all that TRP may offer some tips and pointers that may get that 1 girl out of 40, which is a much higher batting average than you used to have. But don't claim to be experts on women, sex, and relationships because of it. Please refer to the quote I put from the RPer about how TRP understands how women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/14 08:11 PM
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As with anything in life, if you throw enough shit up against the wall, something will eventually stick. I know not all RPers identify with PUA, but there is no denying there is a huge overlap in the communities. The same analysis of the female psyche that you see with PUA is heavily applied in TRP. Now with the being said, lets revisit what I say about TRP all the time: you operate on confirmation bias. I don't know how many times I've had a RPer tell me that they are just analyzing how women b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/14 07:36 PM
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I disagree. Women are immersed in the male perspective from the time they are very young children. Men are the default sex. Take childrens entertainment, for example. You have boys characters, like Spiderman, girls characters like Lalaloopsy, and neutral characters. More often than not the neutral characters are male: Elmo, Super Why, Phineas and Ferb, etc... If a girl is the main character of the show, it will be limited to just being a girl's show. Take Dora the Explorer for example. There is …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 08:56 PM
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None of this changes the reality that you think like a woman. Just because women have preference and you find minor counterexamples to the philosophy of TRP, that a lot of it still doesn't apply. One of the cold truths of TRP is that we know how you think, that it's about you, your feelings, what brings your solipsistic mind happiness, and ultimately, knowing a woman's mind will help any man develop game that will hack his way into her panties, regardless of what she says she likes or not. So wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 08:36 PM
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Then what is the point of RPW learning how to be the best mate for RP men if all women have to do to obtain a man is exist? The initial approach for many relationships or ONS, especially for younger people may more often than not rely on men approaching women, but beyond that women do have to understand what makes their man tick if they want to keep him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 08:05 PM
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That's a yes to everything I just wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 04:33 AM
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I know I said I would not reply to you anymore, and I am not looking to discuss anymore with you, but rather to make sure I am correctly interpreting your stance as well as your accusations against me: You believe it is men's nature given right to desire sexual relationships with girls ages 9 - 15 years old, and any woman who expresses dismay over this is a hateful bigot who loathes men and their sexuality, and is merely jealous of the adult male attention given to these girls, and looks to oppr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 04:16 AM
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It is your unhealthy fear of men and male sexuality ("It was frightening. It was embarrassing.") which would cause you to react that way; just like a religious fundamentalist reacts with horror and disgust to displays of female sexuality. I started to reply to everything else you wrote, pointing out how it's full of fallacies and just bad, made up history and stats, and again, more absurd conclusions you've drawn because of your suspicions of other's real motivations. Then I made it to this, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 03:32 AM
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I wrote: The language TRP uses is often dehumanizing to women: referring to women as bitches, whores, sluts, hamsters, whatever. This demonstrates in what regard TRP holds women from the get-go. You wrote: It's almost like the words themselves don't cause harm. You're right, which is why I used the term "language," not words. Language encompasses pragmatics and semantics. TRP is not joking when they use these words. It's not necessarily the words themselves, but the context in which they are bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 02:47 AM
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And what is the context of their use of these words?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 02:15 AM
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Thank you for proving my point that the conclusions TRP comes to are nothing short of absurd. If you want to believe it is a conspiracy that the real reason feminists are against the sexual exploitation of very young teens and preteens, those under the age of 16 years old, is because they're jealous of 13 year old prostitutes, and not because they're trying to ensure these girls finish their education and have children and sex on their own terms, I just can't argue with that. It's like arguing w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 12:39 AM
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So, is part of TRP's problem just the language they use? The language TRP uses is often dehumanizing to women: referring to women as bitches, whores, sluts, hamsters, whatever. This demonstrates in what regard TRP holds women from the get-go. But I think the major problem of TRP's is the conclusions they draw. TRP does have many a kernels of truth to it, but then they take these kernels and make them into absurd, even cartoonish conclusions due to confirmation bias, the fundamental attribution e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 08:20 PM
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Most of the people I encounter regularly are white, upper middle class Midwestern suburban women in their late 20s to early 40s who are married with kids. College educated. Some work, most are stay at home moms. My circle of friends include some of these women. My husband is big in the table top gaming community, so we have a lot of "nerdy" friends. One of my friends is pretty big into the rave scene. I have some punky, roller derby type friends. I have never heard anyone openly talk about cheat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/14 10:18 PM
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How do you know if they're attracted to your success or just indifferent? Are there men out there who are indifferent toward my confidence and success? Yes. I am not attracted to these men. I sought out a man who is not only not turned off by a woman with confidence and success, but who is attracted to it. And why does it matter if they're attracted to your success or confidence? Wouldn't that mean if you fell off and lost your success and probably some confidence with it that they would then fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 05:42 AM
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That would be an ad hominem, not a strawman, and as I have repeated many, many times in this comment section, I do not agree with insulting someone because they are a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 02:17 AM
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First of all how do you do you put that horizontal line when quoting me? This symbol: > placed directly in front of the text you are quoting. No spaces. I think you vastly overestimate how much men are intimidated by a woman's success. I could be wrong. It's not that success turns us off, it's that it doesn't make a difference for us, I find it neither a turn on or a turn off. Whereas success is pretty much always attractive in a man. I agree that success is pretty much always attractive in men,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 02:14 AM
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Holy red herring, Batman! We are talking about sexuality and attraction. My opinion on the status of women around the world and in the past has absolutely nothing to do with you claiming that TRP is merely this innocuous, egalitarian-minded self-help ideology that we inherently understand that anyone can cheat at any time, you can improve yourself and keep "gaming her", which is actually good for everyone and a non-selfish way to act, but at the end of the day if she cheats she cheats and you ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 02:07 AM
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I'm the one judging billions of men and women? LOL, oh what I have been accused of being on here. First I, and other Blue Pillers are too wishy washy, that we see the world in too much grey, and it can be a bit simpler and clear cut than that. Now I am a judging people? If you think I am the one asserting absolutes about men and women's sexuality, I suggest you reread our interaction again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 10:06 PM
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Ok I guess people fuck for many reasons, is it ok to assume that most often it's because of mutual attraction? When it comes to NSA sex, I don't assume anything. I'm sure most of the time women are at least somewhat attracted to the man they are fucking, but not necessarily, nor does it mean that the reason they fucked him is because they subconciously feel he is the top alpha with the best genes, blah blah blah. I've been accused of assuming way too much about people's motivations, I think Vorn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 10:01 PM
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Than what do you hope to gain/learn from purplepilldebate if you've already made up your mind about TRP? Or am I mistaken in the point of purplepill, I thought it was a place for RP and BP to debate. I'm not here to necessarily change anyone's minds, nor am I here to have my mind changed. Debate allows for me to look at my stances more objectively and critically, and I hope I can possibly get others to do the same with their stances. Debate also helps strengthen other skills, like my writing abi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 09:31 PM
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We don't inherently distrust women Oh really? One Two Three TRP has made it pretty darn clear that they believe that it is in a woman's nature to be dishonest, self-serving, and disloyal, and that only an "idiot" would trust a woman. Again, TRP believes that women must be actively controlled, like a child or pet, because they inherently cannot be trusted. If you think TRP is this equal "we inherently understand that anyone can cheat at anytime," and we're just teaching you how to maintain that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 07:58 PM
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no one fucks just because they're there they fuck because of attraction. People have sex with people they're not entirely attracted to all the time. Maybe they're bored. Maybe they're out to get revenge on an ex. Maybe they're drunk. Maybe they just need laid. There are many reasons why people might engage in sex that has nothing to do with seeking out the most alpha of alpha manly genes. I have no idea where you get that from but, quite naturally, you don't understand how men think. TRP says pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 07:43 PM
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TRP will often take a kernel of truth: even when you are in a committed relationship, you don't cease being attracted to other people. Someone whom you're immensely attracted to, and maybe even otherwise compatible with, may come around and tempt you. Sexual urges are some of the strongest urges we, as humans, have. Some people act on this temptation. But here is where TRP gets it wrong: Their conclusion is that acting on these urges is relatively unique to women, and most of all, that all women…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 02:41 AM
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This is such an absurd analysis I don't even know where to start. There are two parts of a woman's sexual career if you will. The first is her promiscuous younger life Well shit, I must be doing this woman thing wrong. , in which case she does seek out the best alpha she can while her sexual market value is the highest it will ever be. This is just purely seeking the best male genes available to her, with raw sexual attraction being her only guide. No, sometimes people just fuck someone because …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 02:19 AM
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Is this a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 10:20 PM
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If your goal is to bed a certain type of woman, sure, TRP may sometimes yield the results you want. As I have pointed out to Red Pillers on here many, many times, many Blue Pillers do not deny that TRP may sometimes get you laid. I know I personally have some friends who fall for RP tactics. But one of my many problem with TRP comes from their reliance on confirmation biases: they harp on the times it works, but ignore all the times it doesn't, which, and yes, I know not all RPers are PUA, but m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/14 08:57 PM
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I think many Blue Pillers are too quick to dismiss users of TRP as the stereotypical neckbearded virgin losers, and the overall existence of RPW, while getting upset at RP types for dismissing the feelings and experiences of others, such as women and "blue pill" men. TRP is a little more nuanced than they are often given credit for on TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 02:30 AM
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So then maybe, just maybe TRP could be wrong about a lot of things?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 02:21 AM
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TRP wasn't defined by men, it was defined by the observations of women, by men. It's a response. TRP is defined by, as you wrote, very hurt men. Not only that, but many are angry, humiliated, dejected, etc... These are some of the strongest human emotions. Do you really think TRP is an objective analysis of human behavior, and not an emotionally reactionary movement?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 02:16 AM
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Its wrong to judge women based on how many women they sleep with. If you don't want to be with a woman who has a high partner count, that is your prerogative. It is, however, wrong to think you have the right to demean these women, and to think your opinion about them matters to them or anyone else. Its justified to base equality on outcomes. Opportunity isn't good enough. The ends justify the means. Equal outcomes for equal outcome's sake is not something I think many people strive for. I do, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/14 02:00 AM
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The "parallel" you're trying to draw doesn't work, because you are only going to present the female persecution perspective for "slut shaming". Of course I am going to present the female persecution perspective, because it is females who are the ones being persecuted in the example... That is like me getting upset for MRA presenting the male persecution perspective. What other perspective would I argue from? Some people will "slut shame" not just to change the target's behaviour, but simply out …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 09:11 PM
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A common tactic used in propaganda is to present "well documented examples" from one side while completely neglecting context and ignoring the other side's perspective. What context am I neglecting and perspective am I ignoring? It is not unfair to bring up examples, even if they are not from your own culture, of women being slut shamed regardless of their choices or actions, but just because they are women, after you claim otherwise. I was using the example of beliefs about what is in the natur…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 08:49 PM
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The end result is still that both forms of shaming can affect behaviour. Yeah, I agree with this, but maintain that intent matters a lot. One is about exerting control over someone else, and the other is not. I think it is worse if the intention of your behavior is to deter someone's behavior, versus if your behavior subsequently causes someone to deter the behavior, even if that was not your intention. I gave three examples. It is often used to ridicule men for nonmasculine behaviour. You seem …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 08:18 PM
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I understand what you're saying, and I disagree with several points. Whether or not these guys getting shamed for being virgins (even if allegedly so) go out and get laid is irrelevant to the person doing the insulting. Virgin shaming is not trying to evoke a behavior in men. It is just ridiculing them for a lack of that behavior. Slut shaming is insulting an alleged state of being, but a goes a step beyond that, attempting to deter that behavior. Shaming a woman for dressing slutty by saying if…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 07:38 PM
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No. Go back and reread my first post. I pointed that out in the second paragraph. Lemonade basically just reworded my second paragraph, so I responded to clarify what I meant in that second paragraph, as it obviously was not clear. The difference between my opinion and OPs is that I feel slut shaming is more harmful. That's all I'm trying to point out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 05:45 PM
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I've never even posted on TRP, yet I am banned. They tend to ban people just for posting on TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 07:46 AM
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Incorrect. My sexuality and attraction triggers just happen to line up with natural human sexuality. I realize that sounds all too convenient but its true. No, it really doesn't. Even your Red Pill bros overwhelmingly called you out on the whole "women with short hair are unattractive and damaged." Actually hair length is a biological trigger for femininity and fertility. Again, the fact the many men, and some cultures reject long hair as attractive, and will even go as far as stating it is unat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 05:45 AM
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Yes, you can absolutely defy them and do whatever you want with your life, but you're limiting your dating pool in the process. I'm sorry, but I have had no issues attracting men as an adult. Again, you are greatly overestimating how many men share your worldview. Look at how men and women are built. One is a baby factory while the other is a resource gathering factory. In the modern world, women being baby factories is detrimental to the economy and the environment. This is why the countries wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 05:18 AM
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Absolutely. We endorse, support, and are extremely proud of our male led framework for relationships. You have misunderstood. Your understanding of what is natural is flawed. You call anything that fits your personal worldview, your agenda, even what you personally find attractive, as "natural." Take, for example, your infamous assertion that women with short hair are damaged, that men are attracted to long hair. The fact that many men, and whole cultures reject long hair on women as being attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 04:31 AM
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It seems you have deleted you response to me, so I'll address some of the things you wrote here. First of all, you claim that men are often "divorce raped." This is a myth
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 04:12 AM
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That doesn't answer my question. You like to talk about what is "natural" for men and women, that we evolved a certain way for millions of years, and that conforming to that yields the ideal relationship between the sexes, but then you say you believe the ideal family structure is one that virtually did not exist prior to the industrialization of Europe, and that the overwhelming majority of humanity still does not participate in. You simply pick and choose whatever ideology supports your desire…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 03:32 AM
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It is natural You sure like to talk about what is natural. Earlier you wrote this: I fully realize there are many, many people and communities who do not operate under this framework and I'm sure some of them feel happy and fulfilled. If there are "many, many people" who willfully and successfully buck what you believe to be "natural," then that behavior is not necessarily natural. And what credentials do you have to be so sure of what is natural for human beings? And why are you so hung up on d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 03:26 AM
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When you say the welfare systems, do you also include corporate welfare? Overhaul the family court system. What overhauls do you feel need to be made to the family court system? Abolish alimony and bring some equality to child support. Elaborate on this, please. What do you believe would be achieved by abolishing alimony, and what equality would you like to see be brought to child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 02:44 AM
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I've tried egalitarian relationships before. My friends have done it, my family has done it, and countless men in TRP have done it. They don't work for us, and the women end up resenting us for it. Our model has proven (albeit anecdotal, I know you're big on studies) results. That's fine and all, but my anecdotal experience contradict yours. A lot of people's experiences do, and yet you still claim that you're ideology is the natural and only righteous way for men and women to exist. They make t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 02:40 AM
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You go from talking about natural, biological implications, to saying that the modern RP family unit consists of just a man, woman, and maybe children. The nuclear family is a very recent adaptation to the human family structure, emerging with the Industrial Revolution among western Christians. So what are you interested in: nature and biology, or modern adaptations?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 02:14 AM
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As I stated, I do not defend virgin shaming. It is rooted in the same patriarchal value system that I reject. I do however have issues with people thinking it is the male equivalent of slut shaming. Ridiculing a man for being a virgin is not meant to exert control over his behavior. Slut shaming does. It is an attempt to control women's sexuality from getting out of control. For example women are often told that simply wearing a certain outfit makes them a slut, and if they get raped, they were …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 01:59 AM
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This is such a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 01:56 AM
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When someone is called a "virgin neckbeard" it is typically a response to that a guy's hateful attitude coupled with delusions of grandeur that make him feel superior to others, especially women. It is not a witch hunt to shame any and every man who is a virgin. It's more or less saying that you're a virgin because you're an asshole, not that you're an asshole because you're a virgin. Slut shaming, on the other hand, is an attempt to exert control over a women's behavior, regardless of what kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 06:28 AM
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You're mixing sex, and gender. Sex is biological, gender is socially assigned or acted. I know the difference between sex and gender. How do you believe I am mixing the two up? I never met one woman with better control of emotions than man. Ever. That's shocking. (But i don't doubt they exist) Well ok then. I guess that settles that. Another way is to give context what woman might do. For example if a woman is cheating you after you've done a lot for her. A man could think she sucks and can't be…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 08:53 PM
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There is absolutely no evidence that suggests women are driven by emotion and men by logic and rationality. What the evidence does say is that women have larger areas of the brain that process emotion, which seems to suggest that women have a better time at understanding their own emotions as well as the emotions of others. This does not mean that women are driven by frivolous and fleeting whims, anymore than men. As a matter if fact I believe that because women understand their emotions better,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 07:15 PM
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Maybe fodder for another thread, but i'd really love to see TRP explain this. The way I've seen it explained is that feminism has such a choke hold in Scandinavia that women have forgotten, or at least actively oppress their nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/14 10:20 PM
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Do the four periods stand for proof ? It's emphasis on the point. I'd like to remind readers that a study can only count as cases of cheating, the incidences in which the cheater admitted to having cheated or when the cheating was discovered. We've discussed this at length here. Of course it is hard to quantify such a thing, but when attempt are made to quantify it, most studies indicate that men cheat more than women. When Red Pillers claim that women cheat more than men, are dishonest and have…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 08:25 PM
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Rockstars are the epitome of the perfect marriage of masculinity and femininity: They command crowds, have women falling at their feet, yet wear their heart on their sleeves and are not afraid of a pair of tight jeans.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 12:41 AM
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This seems like kind of a small shot at men that would dare to satisfy part of their masculine identity by "wearing the pants in the family." It's not. It's a shot at saying that there is one definition of masculinity, that it is a black and white issue, and that men who do not conform to your definition of masculinity are whipped. I know you have not expressed that explicitly, but it is a oft-repeated sentiment among TRP. Men aren't frowned upon because they desire or achieve in becoming leader…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 08:44 PM
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I understand what your relationship entails, and have no issue with it. I have friends who carry on such relationships, and are happy with it. But as I wrote, I could not tolerate generally being a "first mate" to a man in a relationship. If anything, I more of the dominant one in most of the day to day aspects of my marriage. Men will know what I'm talking about when I say that I don't bother trying to understand why my wife does certain things that I find ridiculous. So can women. She knows, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 06:42 PM
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If I am wrong please correct me, but it seems you are equating "dominance" with "confidence." Most people, men and women alike, are attracted to confidence. If you are not, can you please elaborate on what exactly it is that you mean when you talk about "maintaining a dominant unapologetic frame?" I am married. I consider our marriage to be equal. There are certain things in which he brings to the table, that he is stronger with than me. I trust him to make the best decisions, submitting to his …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 03:20 AM
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So the only reason women would stay with a terminally ill spouse is for the attention and bragging rights she'll get for staying with him to the end.... Wow. You don't know how hard it is to muster up such an act between skinning puppies and kittens alive, boiling alive orphan male babies and eating their foreskins, sabotaging our "friends" birth control, ensuring the smooth governing of the gynocracy, while juggling our beta orbiters. You know typical girl stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 09:30 PM
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I didn't write that, but if I had to guess it would be because of pressures on women to conform to domestic gender roles as well as being a provider. Men, although taking a bigger part in child rearing than in the past, still have pretty clear cut roles. That, coupled with men being less likely to admit when they are unhappy in their relationships. This is just my guess, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 07:10 PM
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TRP seems to define anything negative a woman does as proof of female dishonor, while conveniently ignoring the same, or similar behavior from men. To them, men have reasonable, legitimate reasons for their behavior. Women are just solipsistic. A day or two ago there was a post on TRP asking why women cheat. The answer was that because women have no honor, loyalty, and are dishonest, that these are "male abstractions." But men cheat more than women.... The goalpost of dishonor is moved to vilify…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 06:20 PM
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And as an addendum to what I have written, why are things like men being more likely to cheat on their wives than wives on their husbands, men being more likely to leave a sick wife than vice versa, ignored as men being dishonorable, but a woman filing for divorce is the epitome of dishonor? Your goal post of what is honorable and what is not is moved based solely on what behaviors women are more likely to display than men. The behavior in and of itself is pretty irrelevant to you, it's all abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 05:54 PM
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I believe men are more likely to look at their wives as the be-all-end-all of their emotional support network. In that way I believe men can be more clingy. I have seen this sentiment expressed on Reddit, even TRP, as well as from my husband. When we hit a rough patch a few years ago he expressed his jealousy toward me that I had my female best friend to confide in about our issues. I am the only person he could confide in. He felt isolated and that every thing was bottling up inside. What makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 05:24 PM
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Red Pillers tend to come from a group that has an over representative experience with this type (that's a big part of why they became Red Pillers), but even they wouldn't claim that every woman acts that way. A core tenant of TRP is that women are hypergamous, which means they have little to no loyalty to any man, and will dump him for a more alpha man who gets the gina tingling. They even have a fun little anagram for anyone who says otherwise: NAWALT, not all women are like that, meant to mock…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/14 12:12 AM
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The way I interpret that phrase is not attacking men as human beings, saying men are inherently inferior or defective, but rather attacking the cultural definition of masculinity that exploits and abuses others. The notion of "toxic masculinity" is rooted in the belief that men have been in the empowered role. Because feminists generally subscribe to the belief that women are an oppressed group, I don't think "toxic femininity" would be embraced by feminists, because they believe that feminity i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/14 01:58 AM
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lets go home because your turning me on This can be interpreted as being crass, and is putting pressure on someone. Many women will interpret it as you're just interested in a wham bam thank you ma'am. There is not necessarily anything wrong with this, either, and some women may be into that. Ex: Ya I've been to tons of places, we should go back to my condo, I've got some great pictures of my trip to Hawaii that you should see. I'm starved, lets go back to my apartment and so I can cook us up so…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 11:10 PM
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He deleted the video from Youtube. Youtube did not remove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 09:11 PM
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Indeed, redpillschool, men and their masculinity are being silenced and oppressed because some teenaged Vine celebrity said some things some people found offensive, and he received a torrent of Tweets from teenaged girls expressing their frustration with his comments. You and your ilk say women are insecure and cannot handle criticism, but yeesh. You have confused being silenced and oppressed with not being free of criticism. But maybe if you complain about it enough online women will understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 08:28 PM
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Been in an "equal" relationship for nine years. My parents have been in one for 37. Can my anecdotes trump yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 12:12 AM
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Sure. They always do. Society is a swinging pendulum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 07:17 PM
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Can we please clarify here what specifically is masculinity to TRP? And can you please elaborate on how feminism has obtained such power to keep men from expressing their masculinity unless it has their stamp of approval?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 07:09 AM
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So arched eyebrows are now childish? What? Manly men: Aryan looking soldiers. Not men: Jews in flannel pajamas drinking coffee. With archy eyebrows.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 06:36 AM
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So it's wrong the expect women to become more masculine to succeed, but men being forced to become feminine is somehow fine Where did I ever say any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 06:27 AM
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Change is neither inherently good or bad. It just is. Some win, some lose. I believe the most advantageous traits in society today are not the aggressive, dominant, stoic archetype so idolized by TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 05:22 AM
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I didn't say change was good or bad. That's you putting words into my mouth. I wasn't even asserting that I agree with you that society is being "feminized." However, if it is, how is that changing paradigm any different than any other time in history? All I was pointing out that change is indeed inevitable, and if you cannot adapt, you will die out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 05:10 AM
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If it is, so what? Is femininity that inferior, that alarming that if society swings that way, it a cause for alarm? My opinion is that society changes, as it always has. Those who will survive will adapt and carry on. Those who don't, won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 04:27 AM
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The Maasai culture in Kenya considers long hair to be very unattractive on both men and women. I watched a documentary on an American teenaged girl who went to live with the Maasai for some time and one of the first things they said to her was essentially that her hair looks gross, why doesn't she cut it? Hairstyles are nothing but cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 03:21 AM
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I think you're dead on. I think we're largely talking about a clash of subcultures here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 03:15 AM
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When I cut my hair short, it weeded out all the basic guys. All the punk and hardcore guys loved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 03:13 AM
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Short hair is definitely more maintenance than long hair. With long hair you can just throw it up in a pony tail or a bun, but with long hair you do have to style it to make it look presentable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 03:08 AM
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It is what it is. Men are shallow, women are hypergamous. No, you and your echo chamber are shallow. Don't pin that shit on all men. Commitment to a single person should confer some reasonable level of consideration of my preferences about your appearance. Sure. I consider what my husband finds attractive, but if I do go against it, it has no affect on his feelings toward me because he is not shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 02:52 AM
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If a man were only into me because of my hair, and felt as if he were trapped in a marriage with an undesirable woman because I cut my hair, well, I never would have married such a man in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 02:50 AM
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The type of men I am into generally are not offended by a woman's body hair. I am married, but if I were in the market for a man, and were to not shave (I do, for the record), I would see it as weeding out undesirable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 02:48 AM
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Not only do I not fail to consider this, but red pill theory is based entirely around the concept that they don't and won't. They don't and won't what? You're making such a leap here. You're assuming that because you disagree with our views, then we must therefore be abusive, and therefore we must eventually be abusive! That's not only incredibly incorrect, but incredibly presumptuous and downright wrong. Many Red Pillers, including your pal SoftHarem, have advocated physical abuse toward women …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 08:08 PM
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My best friend is a woman. Actually, most of my friends are women. Are you telling me they are all terrible friends and I am just too dumb to realize how much they suck?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 12:09 AM
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The difference between men and women as I see it is that women won't suffer the same ill-effects. They may be absolutely clueless what and why works in the sexual market, but they would nevertheless be at least moderately successful. You become indignant toward me, and TBPers in general because you feel as if we just don't get where you're coming from, that because we may have never struggled in the dating, sex, and relationship department, we couldn't possibly understand what you and men like y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/14 12:08 AM
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So are you saying that women tend to not offer the camaraderie traits you look for in relationships, and therefore you don't think many of them would make a good friend for you, or that in general, women don't make good friends for anyone? There is quite a difference between the two, and I get that you're saying the latter, but I want to make sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 09:13 PM
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The entire frame against the red pill is basically that we don't have sufficient proof for our views and that we therefore should not have them This is what I wrote to you on another comment: Many people on TBP have acknowledged that methods utilized by TRP work on some women. The argument is not necessarily that they don't work, but taking issue with the methods as being borderline, if not outright abusive and malicious. I also went on to use the example of my best friend as the type of woman T…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 09:08 PM
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Because at the end of the day, they know pain, they know struggle, they know desolation and scarcity in the sexual marketplace. Just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean the effects aren't real, and that the causes can't be known. Where have I ever once claimed that there aren't a lot of lonely, depressed men out there? And just because you're not personally experiencing the downsides, doesn't mean our analysis of the causes are wrong And just because your analysis strokes your ego, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 08:13 AM
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I'm the one making cookie cutter judgements about people here?!? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 04:06 PM
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You're talking about two different behaviors here. The "nice guy" who feels he is entitled to sex is directly trying to represent himself as something he is not, and believes the woman in his sights owes him for his deeds. It is intentionally malicious, manipulative behavior toward someone. A promiscuous woman who no longer wants to be promiscuous, and wants to settle down with someone is not trying to maliciously manipulate someone into believing she is something she is not (yes, promiscuous pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 07:53 PM
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Blue pillers get laid in spite of their views, not because of them. Why is it that when TRP ideology gets someone the results the want, it is proof TRP works, that it is the be all-end all truth of sex, women, and relationships, but when non-RP methods of attaining those things gets the same results, well, they just don't count, according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 07:25 PM
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They can sure dish it out, but taking it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/14 06:58 AM
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I have been with my husband for nine years, and a little over three of those we have been married. One crotch dropping. There was a survey done on TBP, and most users are under the age of 24.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/14 03:47 AM
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Yes, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 11:42 PM
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That was my point. It is obviously hard to quantify the phenomenon when two surveys conducted at the same time come up with two different numbers (although both do agree that me cheat more). Again, this is why it is unfair for you to use language you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 11:33 PM
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Women love the way a man makes her feel and men love the way women feel about us. you then go on to say this: The peace and strength that a good women adds to your life is amazing. The support a women in love adds to my life is one of the best feelings I have had the luxury of feeling. Yeah, this is loving the way a woman makes you feel. You are sure of what your feelings and intentions are for women, but you can only observe women's behavior. What makes you think things are any different from w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 11:01 PM
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Your survey is already out of date at 2010. Says who, you? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 10:55 PM
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I hope you understand that because of the conflicting numbers, it goes to show exactly how difficult it is to quantify such a thing, therefore it is unfair for you to apply such superlative adverbs to the data solely to further your own agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 10:44 PM
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The point is to illustrate the Red Pill's common use of the fundamental attributuon error. The Red Pill, because they are men, see the reasons behind men's behavior as reasonable with the cards they have been dealt, but attribute women's behavior to little more than inherent "solipsism" and "hamstering."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 10:38 PM
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My source says women cheat 70% of what men do: http://www.thewire.com/national/2013/07/wives-cheating-vs-men/66800/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 10:34 PM
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Men are slightly more likely to cheat but women are vastly more likely to file for divorce? About 2/3, 66%, of divorces are filed by women. For every 100 men who cheat on their spouse, 70 women cheat on their spouse. Women are about 1/3 more likely to file for divorce, and men cheat a little less than 1/3 more than women. Your adverbs are quite off. But why do women initiate divorce more often? I think there are several factors that contribute to this. First and foremost I think men's fears of "…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 03:37 AM
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Your average schlub knows the percentages are against him in divorce. The woman gets the house, the kids, alimony, child support - everything in a divorce. The woman loses nothing in the case off a divorce, but a man loses everything. False. Alimony is awarded in only about 15% of divorces. Source. And the average man ends up with 10% more financial resources after divorce, whereas the average woman ends with 27% less financial resources. Source.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 09:04 PM
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Do you mean that you disagree with this statement? It's clearly the case. Regardless of your thoughts on the cause, widespread female contribution to the public sphere is a very recent phenomenon. Women were not visible in technological innovations and largely in politics and academia until recently, most of which has been caused by discrimination. But to say women had no role in the development and maintenance of civilization is a slap in the face. Women certainly had more behind the scenes rol…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 08:50 PM
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Well you see, when a man cheats on his wife, but doesn't divorce her, it just means he has a high sex drive. When a woman divorces a man for cheating on her, it is because she is self serving (solipsistic) and selfish. She clearly didn't love him as deeply as he loved her. Really, Red Pillers? This rationalization of men's self serving (solipsistic) bad behavior is the very definition of hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 06:03 PM
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So men love unconditionally, unless a woman gets all fat and frumpy... That is the very definition of lust! That's even more shallow, conditional, and self serving (solipsistic) than the way you say women love men. Jesus Christ. This is another prime example of Red Pill narcissism, lack of self awareness, projection, and attribution error. You believe that when a man stops loving a woman, it is for an entirely legitimate reasons, which boil down to being a failure on her part, that violates the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 05:54 PM
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I agree. I don't bother with him anymore. His comments here largely consist of strawmans, sarcasm, and name calling. How can you debate with someone whose response to someone explaining their position is "nuh uh, that's not what you believe, let me construct this strawman to explain what you really believe."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/14 10:32 PM
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Calling a parody sub "The Blue Pill" is in itself parodying the notion that there is a red or blue pill when it comes to sex/relationships/gender. As an analogy, to many fire and brimstone Christians, there are those who are agents of God and Jesus Christ, and anything else is the agent of the devil. An atheist may jokingly refer to themselves as a hell-bound Satanist, or something, to parody the nature of the Christian's beliefs. The atheist does not believe in God, Jesus, Satan, hell, or heave…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 09:30 PM
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I am looking for it, but am having trouble finding it. I read it last year. Some organization releases a massive survey every decade, since the 1920s, polling unmarried men and women about their preferences in a mate. For the first time ever, a woman's income was on the list for men, and for the first time, a man's income was not number one for women. Definitely will forward that your way when I find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 07:44 AM
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Respect is something you accord someone else because of their character and actions, dignity is a personal attribute, how one carries oneself in manner that commands (seeks to command) respect and admiration What does any of that have to do with your husbands belief that women cannot be respected because they are penetrated during sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 07:25 AM
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You are repeating the same thing to me over and over. No, there hasn't been a very "mild" shift in preferences of the opposite sex. There is an increasingly growing shift in these preferences that has really taken off among Millenials.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 07:17 AM
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I do recall you saying you identified as a liberal in your younger years? If my mind serves me correctly, what changed, and how has your relationship impacted your philosophies, if at all? And do you believe respect and dignity are synonymous?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 06:59 AM
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I'm asserting that as women have been becoming increasingly financially independent, their emphasis on a man's income has fell in relation. This would debunk your assertion that female "hypergamy" is biological, and is rather a social phenomenon. In addition, men are now placing more emphasis on their female partner's status and income. However, the male breadwinner has been ingrained into our culture for a very long time, so just because gender paradigms have shifted in a very short time doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 05:54 AM
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That's nice, but where is your evidence this is biological?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 05:36 AM
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That was a statement that my husband doesn't respect the female sex in general whether they have sex or not, but because they are the passive and receiving partner, aka because they are not men. And you firmly believe this to be a representation of how most men think?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 05:34 AM
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Let me guess, everything is culture, right? Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 04:31 AM
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So? Christians think that going to church is what's best. And religions shoving their morality down other people's throat is a very, very controversial subject... As a matter of fact, wars have been fought over it. oh, and I can show you a neat scientific study that proves people often don't know what will make them happy. So? If people don't know what makes even themselves happy, how can they know what makes others happy? But there's this one opinion that makes you especially angry. Kind of fun…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 03:48 AM
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I am not going back through every discussion we have had to to relink to every source I have ever given you. You know exactly what I am talking about, and anyone who has seen my arguments here knows that I generally like to back up my assertions with cited sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 03:45 AM
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Where is you evidence that these women who feel condemned for being stay at home moms are being condemned by those who have been brainwashed by "toxic conformist feminism?" Perhaps they are getting grief from parents who are upset they paid for an education that their daughter has no intention of using?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 03:35 AM
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Your arguments here are nothing but strawmen, and I see you bringing up points that I have debunked in other threads, such as your assertion that women's value of a mans income is caused by an innate, biological drive, aka hypergamy. I have given you sources that demonstrate that as women increasingly become financially independent, the value women place on a man's income and status has correlationally been decreasing. My first comment here was acknowledging that there are indeed some biological…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 03:33 AM
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They love to insists that feminists hate "traditional" women. I don't know how many times I've been told that feminists can't stand stay at home moms. I'm a stay at home mom! And a feminist! Have some feminists expressed disdain over stay at home moms? Sure. Is it a widely held tenant of feminism? No. But because it gives RPers something to run off of when touting how bad feminism is, they run with it. As Vornash has demonstrated, any criticisms of his argument are met with dismissals because he…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 03:06 AM
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literally nobody has ever told you that. You're just being defensive. I was not talking about your specifically, I was talking about the general RP belief that they know what is better for women than women do themselves. it's so childish that people get offended at the use of the word "normal." Some people are outliers. I refuse to pretend that isn't so just because it hurts your feelings. Getting real sick of your personal jabs against me. Keep it up and I'm done with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 03:03 AM
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There are some biological differences that trend among biological gender. I don't think most people, even feminists, would deny this. I do believe, however, that these differences are not as highly pronounced as Red Pillers believe them to be, and that they are just trends: more women display higher levels of empathy, men, higher level of problem solving. It's not these women lack problem solving skills, or than these men lack empathy. And it's not that the problem solving skills men offer are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 10:02 PM
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Do you disagree with the sentiment frequently expressed on TRP that men are morally superior to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 09:32 PM
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I think most people out there don't have too much of an issue with #1, but really hate #2. No, I assure you it is with how TRP goes about #1. If you don't mind me too getting a little anecdotal for a moment, I am in a very happy, not RP marriage. We have been together for nine years. You, on the other hand, are clearly pretty miserable, and admitted that even after swallowing TRP, even though your confidence is increasing, you're confident divorce is still hanging in the balance. Why do you need…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 07:59 PM
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You can't undo years of being pussy-whipped by just coming home and acting like a jerk one day. That will cause a divorce, not save your marriage. It's a game of baby steps, and your wife will resist this change every step of the way. So your goal is to slowly become a jerk in your marriage? Yikes. Good luck with that. Now, I'm fairly certain that eventually, we'll be divorced. It's just a matter of when. I agree. You both sound like you have a bucket full of issues in direct conflict with havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 07:20 PM
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Standing up to an emotionally abusive spouse is not inherently Red Pill. I think most sane people would agree that you needed to let her know that she needs to stop antagonizing you or lose you. Why, might I ask, did it take TRP for you to gain the confidence to stand up to her, and why do you believe what has occurred in your relationship is "Red Pill?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 07:12 PM
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If the case is that war has happened to pretty much everyone, why do you claim it is just "feminist, or rather egalitarian societies" that have "crumbled into failure?" Haven't all societies crumbled into failure at some point if war is an inevitable part of human existence?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 05:04 PM
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The visceral hatred displayed by so many Red Pillers is an example of what happens when maladjusted men have their reality obliterated. Placing anyone on a pedestal is dehumanization. Us feminist shrews call this benevolent sexism. When that ethereal being falls off the pedestal, proving themselves to be a flawed human being, scared and insecure individuals, who are at the same time entitled, don't know how to handle this, and they lash out. The entitlement of Red Pillers stems from women failin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 02:32 AM
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My question is more about why is satire a good response to TRP and RPW My opinion is that the best way to fight an ideology with which you disagree is to make a mockery of it. and why can't they create their own ideas about the things TRP talks about? The world is not black and white. There is no pill, or philosophy you can adopt that will solve all your problems, and what may work for person A may result in utter disaster for person B. I think this is the hardest thing for Red Pillers to wrap t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 02:01 AM
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Red Pillers believe that a woman's peak of what she has to offer, her resources: her looks, fertility, and easily malleable submissive companionship, peaks well before age 30. Men are more likely to cheat on their spouses than women. Trading your partner up for a better model: How is this not hypergamy? And where is the evidence that women's aversion to a homemaker husband is inherent to their biology, and not just a reflection of wider societal attitudes toward men in those roles? As I wrote, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 09:20 PM
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And do you know what is interesting about this changing gender paradigm? So to are changing what men and women define to be desirable traits in a partner. A man's income and status no longer polls as the number one thing women look at in a potential partner. A woman's status and income never in the past polled as something men even consider. Now it does. Maybe the alleged hypergamy in women is more of a result of cultural factors than this inherent tendency? Maybe you'll start seeing more men sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 08:51 PM
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You completely missed my point. My point is that most men and women marry someone with similar educational attainment and socioeconomic background. Yeah, some men do marry down. So what? So do some women. They're both outliers who buck the common trend. Focusing on the outliers and saying "you're making a false equivalency because more men marry down" is focusing on the irrelevant. Who cares who marries down more among the outliers? They are not representative of most relationships, which was my…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 08:34 PM
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Where is the false equivalency? If you're going to accuse me of a fallacy, elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 08:19 PM
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$81,000 might go as far as it used to when you consider the cost of college and healthcare. It is firmly middle class. The average American family of 4 has a yearly income of $44,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 05:07 PM
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The difference is the average college educated man won't typically have a problem marrying a waitress or a beautician. But the average college educated woman will typically have a problem marrying a trashman or a snow-plow operator or similar occupation. People actually tend to marry people with the same level of education and in the same socioeconomic class as them. Have rich men married down? Certainly, but so have rich women. I used to work for a female attorney married to a line cook. Focusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 05:04 PM
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Engineers, firefighters, police officers, military personnel, scientists in general, and doctors are all among the most respected professions, and are all male dominated. The fact that blue collar jobs are devalued says more about class than it does about gender. The only thing you can say about that in regards to gender is how views of those professions disproportionately affect low income and minority men. And the average yearly income for a coal miner is $81,000. Source. If you can't support …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 06:49 AM
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So your ideology is the only truth, and anyone who does not see things from your perspective is unequivocally wrong? Is this a fair assessment of your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 11:38 PM
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Right. You really don't belong in this sub if you believe that is how our discussion has gone down. Your behavior on this sub has been nothing short of childish and obnoxious. If you want to jerk about how awesome TRP is, go back to the TRP. Don't come here and do that, while calling anyone who tries to debate you a troll, among other things. You're essentially putting your fingers in your ears saying "lalala I can't hear you because you're wrong and I'm right." I'm done talking to you. Goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 07:47 PM
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You made some claims, based off nothing more than your personal observations, and I countered it with some quantifiable evidence that demonstrates that maybe your observations aren't all as accurate as you think they are. As for my opinions on your relationship, you're right, I don't know much about it. I can only draw my conclusions from what you write here as well as my knowledge of TRP and MGTOW movements. If you don't want anyone to offer their input on that subject, don't bring it up in a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 06:41 PM
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It helps men to see that most women... cheat... Men are more likely to cheat than women. and divorce rape good men. The average man ends up with 10% more financial resources after divorce, whereas the average woman ends with 27% less financial resources. Source In addition, alimony is not very common, only awarded in about 15% of divorces. Source The amount of men who are "divorce raped" is very, very small. twist words/hamster reality to their liking That's interesting that you think this descr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 04:42 AM
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Seems to me like you're projecting. What exactly do you believe I am projecting? Just because you want to believe we're all just bad people doesn't make it so. I don't believe you're all bad people at all (some of you, though...). Misguided? Yes. Angry? Certainly. Hurt? Most definitely. When somebody contradicts me and then tells me the neat little lies that caused the first half of my life to suck, I already know those strategies don't work. Maybe those strategies didn't work for you. Maybe the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/13 01:18 AM
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Ever heard of that book "He's Just Not That Into You?" Yeah. She was just not that into him. He should have moved on, but instead he thought the right way to go about it was to keep on putting in those nice guy coins and hope sex/a relationship falls out. He thought she was obligated to like him if he was nice. That is why he is a virgin. But then he has the audacity to go and get pissed at her/women in general for his plight. That is why "nice guys" get made fun of for being virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 10:18 PM
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Because you don't understand what I am getting at I am trolling? Right. Women don't want to sleep with you (the hypothetical you, not you-you) because you're an entitled, manipulative "nice guy." Drop that attitude, and though I never said it will guarantee you to get laid (no golden ticket to Vaginatown, sorry), it definitely won't hurt. That entitled, manipulative "nice guy" attitude is what is being made fun of about the virgin neckbeard meme. Again, not for the sole reason they are virgins. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 10:05 PM
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I understand exactly what you're saying, and saying it doesn't relate to my point. I am not saying assholes don't ever get laid. I am saying, however, that men who are assholes, but then turn around and complain they can't get laid, that their assholish-ness probably has something to do with it in their situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 06:44 PM
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But those aren't nearly as reactionary! Where's the fun?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 06:04 PM
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You've completely missed my point. The person I'm in this conversation with claims TBP are shaming some RPers for being virgins, and my poor is that that is not the case. One of the reasons them wing a virgin may get brought up, the old virgin neck beard meme, is because many of these guys have the attitude that they have been owed sex, and that women are denying them something that is rightly theirs. My point is that this specific attitude is probably one big reason these guys are virgins. Agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 06:03 PM
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Fair enough. I do hope my explanation was sufficient enough to challenge your assertion that TBP is hypocritical when it comes to supposed virgin shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 09:08 PM
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If your boss at work is a woman, I don't think anybody is suggesting to ignore them. Of course not, because you'd lose your job. I do, however, strongly believe that men who subscribe to Red Pill ideology will have different feelings toward that female boss than they would a male boss. I am capable of observing how women act, and I believe that to be the truth. I too, am capable of observing how women, and men act, and believe that my observations hold water (but I am also open to the fact that …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 09:04 PM
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TRP has some good advice: Treat yourself well. Dress well. Eat well. Exercise. Don't let others take advantage of you. Know when to let go of toxic people. Follow that, and you are off to a good start. But leave what TRP says at that. If you go looking for women in bars and clubs, don't act all indignant or smug at their values when some may behave like bar and club hopping party girls. If you target women with low self esteem, or who are just neurotic, don't be surprised when this causes proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 08:58 PM
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We dismiss female opinions on how men should approach women because we see that women don't actually respond to their own advice. TRP has advocated not taking women seriously over anything they say, including LTR, rape, experiencing gender-based discrimination, and so on. It goes far beyond just advice about approaching women. Again, a core tenant of TRP is dismissing women and their opinions and experiences, which includes the dynamics of courtship. I've never suggested anything about righteous…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 08:38 PM
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Holy strawman! Shaming someone just because they are a virgin is not ok. Shaming someone for their shitty attitude, which is why they are a virgin, but they fail to make this connection themselves, is in no way comparable. You're a virgin because you're an asshole. You're not an asshole because you're a virgin --!PLEASE NOTE! I'm am not calling you an asshole here, just using that phrasing to illustrate the hypothetical argument. I have no idea of your sexual standing. I also find it a bit rich …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 08:27 PM
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When a man (and only a man) talks about unrequired love, you hear "gosh, I wish she had gone out with me" as "she owed me a date" *Unrequited love. And you are the one with the strawman here. I am talking about the visceral anger that results in comments like "I was nothing but kind and loving her to. I was always there for her, offering a should to cry on, but then she went out with an asshole!" As if she owed this guy commitment and sex because he was nice to her. And then they turn to TRP and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 08:12 PM
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It's making fun of them for their shitty, entitled attitude being responsible for something they obvious have a problem with, but are too deluded to see, as well as being deluded enough to believe they have women, relationships, and sex all figured out when their virginity suggests otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 08:07 PM
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You're asking why TBP is not giving a "road map" on dating/sex/realtionships, that is in opposition to TRP. One reason is because you guys don't want it. You have made that abundantly clear (not saying that all BPers even feel they owe you one). But then you turn around and call us the unreasonable ones with no legs to stand on because we are not offering you something you don't want and have already dismissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 08:05 PM
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You're taking comments on a parody subreddit, where the average comment is meant to be sarcastic and a joke, and are trying to say "but they did not follow their reasoning with a scholarly, in-depth analysis."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 08:01 PM
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Even if TRP is wrong, we're over there saying, "here's a map!" If TRP is wrong, you're going to have to do better to combat it than saying, "that map is wrong, everybody go back to stumbling in the dark." Why bother giving your advice to people who don't want it? TRP have explicitly stated that my opinion, as a woman, is completely inconsequential. A post on TRP currently is about an /r/AskWomen post asking women what they find attractive in men. TRP response is calling these women liars/deluded…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 07:51 PM
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Virgin shaming is not ok. I would never make fun of someone for that. But I will call out virgin men and men with little to no experience with women who believe women owe them something, who believe they have women figured out, including an expertise on the female experience and psyche, as well as that of sexual interactions, and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 07:44 PM
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I completely understand, and really do sympathize with men who have trouble with women. I do think, in general, that it is harder for men in the dating scene than it is for women, that men often face more pressure to initiate and continue interactions. That can be scary as hell, especially if you are already suffering from low self esteem. Look, I'm all for everyone getting laid and having someone special to snuggle up with and do whatever it is you do. But The Red Pill is largely snake oil, pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 07:25 PM
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I think it's pretty clear: Q: What is your opinion on sexual strategies? A: Well it depends on who you're dealing with. Some people: their personalities, their subculture, etc... will be responsive to Red Pill tactics. Some people won't. To treat interactions between the genders as black and white, so its easily digestable is dishonest, deluded, and lazy, and just opens you up for confirmation bias. As I wrote, this question is not very specific, rather broad and vague. I could write a novel abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 04:36 PM
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I was replying to this specific comment of yours within the post, not original post itself, but I do think it answers your question pretty well: "There is no "one size fits all" approach to sexual dynamics. In some circumstances Red Pill tactics may works wildly well. In other circumstances, it will have you going home alone, tail tucked between your legs, wondering if you just chased away someone good." If you're going to ask broad, vague questions, prepared to get broad, vague answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 04:47 AM
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I'm sure you've heard girls say "I don't get along with other girls because they all cause drama," right? Sure you have. To most of that, what does that say? It says the she usually the cause or the center of that drama. TRP is kind of like the male version of that. A few days ago you linked to an article on RoK that featured a picture of a cracked out Lindsay Lohan compared with a picture of her younger self before her addiction spun out of control, as the poster child of a women hitting the wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 03:39 AM
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What I find interesting about the study is that when comparing happiness rates among men and women of the European Union it found that both men and women's happiness are increasing, but that relative to men, and this is odd wording to me, women's happiness has decreased. That's misleading. It's not women's happiness has decreased in the EU. It hasn't. Women are indeed getting happier, but that compared to the past, men's happiness is increasing more than women's. I find it interesting that the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 07:03 PM
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So 80% of men are virgins, or virtually sexless, before a woman settles on them? Sorry, but studies show that the number of sexual partners men and women have are pretty darn close.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 03:58 AM
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I really don't know how to make myself any more clear that you don't have to justify to me why you ban people from TRP. I really don't care. Where I have the issue is TRP banning people they feel are hostile to their community, while tsk tsking other communities who do the same to TRP. TRP can dish it out, but can't take it. TRP cross posts AskWomen posts and comments to mock them. Users of TRP have brigaded AskWomen posts with downvotes and comments that anyone who does not subscribe to Red Pil…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 03:55 AM
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I don't downvote anything, and I would be more than happy to send you a screen shot if you don't believe me. Don't be presumptuous, and so sensitive. righteous and indignant when I'm finally able to respond? Because you sent me a message freaking out over me not responding to you if what you felt was a timely manner, accusing me of possibly admitting defeat to you because of this, and now have accused me of downvoting all of your posts. Get it together.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 03:22 AM
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And SRS doesn't ban people for more trivial reasons than that? SRS has made its purpose pretty clear in that it is a circle jerk (regardless if they are serious or not), and that any interruption will not be tolerated because it is not a discussion sub. They do have SRSDiscussion, which I have never really visited. I've actually been banned from SRS, so go figure. TRP says it invites dissent, but its actions suggest otherwise. That is the difference with SRS. I'm not sure why, but it seems like …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 03:19 AM
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The 80/20 rule in the TRP is concerned with sex. It says, as you wrote, 20% of guys are having sex with 80% of the women. You then go on to say that beta males, that 80% of men not getting the sex, are indeed getting the sex because not all women can have an alpha 20% man, so women choose them because women don't be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 02:43 AM
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Haha, are you serious? I responded to you six hours ago, and three of those I was at work. I have received several messages from several people since then, but the only activity on Reddit I was involved in for the three hours I was not working was conversing with redpillschool because a) It was more interesting and b) I made myself pretty clear the first time I responded to you, so I'm going to have to think about how I can break it down for your further.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 02:38 AM
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Two subs, both preemptively ban members of other subs because of the history of that other sub trolling and brigading there. Again, but TRP has legit reasons to preemptively ban people. Woman-oriented subs just can't handle the righteous truths your members drop there. Right, that's totally it and not your lack of perspetive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 10:46 PM
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You have the right to do whatever you want with your sub. You don't have to justify to me why you chose to ban people who disagree with you. I'm just saying it is rich that you criticize other subs for doing the same thing you do. But when TRP does it, it's for legit reasons. When others do it, it's because they're too weak or whatever to handle criticism? Right. Something something women are solipsistic and hamsters. Quite a few Red Pillers post in AskWomen without being banned. If they do get …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 09:55 PM
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TRP does not like dissent in general: If you want to drop some "truth" about how there are all kinds of attractive and feminine women out there and we're just going after the insecure bar sluts I will swiftly remove your cliche cellulite ridden ass from our community. If you can divorce yourself from your own narrow world view for a moment, put yourself in AskWomen's shoes: Whether or not you agree with this assessment, many people, I am guessing the mods of AskWomen agree with this, view TRP as…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 09:12 PM
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If this were true, women are settling left and right with "beta males," then TRP's oft-repeated "80% of women get with 20% of men" and "women are the gate-keepers of sex, and men of commitment" are bunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 08:26 PM
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The female subreddits would like to be above reproach. They don't want a discussion taking place at all, it has nothing to do with brigading. At the core of it, women cannot stand and do not like men talking critically about their sexual strategy. And we've got some theories as to why. I have been preemptively banned from TRP, AskTRP, and RPW just for posting on TBP, so what's your theory as to why Red Pillers don't like women, or anyone, talking critically about their sexual strategy? It's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 08:16 PM
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The Red Pill will ban you just for being someone who posts on The Blue Pill. And here is a quote from a mod of TRP on anyone who challenges their ideology: If you want to drop some "truth" about how there are all kinds of attractive and feminine women out there and we're just going after the insecure bar sluts I will swiftly remove your cliche cellulite ridden ass from our community.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 08:12 PM
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Some of the posts on there are insane. Some? That's an understatement. But I have the ability to look at them and judge for myself rather than blindly accepting all that I'm told. If you think you're impervious to the influence of a lot of the insane stuff on TRP, you're wrong. It's like how we all like to believe that manipulative advertising has no affect on us. How many people can exude that though? The vast majority of people I know can't. It just seems like you have to be in the top 1% of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/13 09:06 PM
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TRP is all about "training" your woman to submit to your will. There is a lot of talk about applying psychological theories, such as operant conditioning, which is method of behavioral training using both positive and negative reinforcements for behavior, to control the behavior of your woman. This is the textbook definition of manipulation. Example The deceit portion is that I believe any "alpha" traits the majority of Red Pillers adopt to try to reel in a woman will begin to fade and the real …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/13 08:49 PM
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My point was that there is no "blue pill." TBP is anything that is not Red Pill. And do you honestly believe TRP is the only strategy that works? I've said this before: TRP is merely the opposite end of extremism when it comes to gender relations. You go from having women on this pedestal where they are these ethereal beings, to taking women off the pedestal, and knocking them into the gutter. This doesn't work, either. It may give you some different reactions that you have never experienced bef…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/13 08:37 PM
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Define "The Blue Pill."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/13 08:10 PM
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If you can cite me some evidence that a good portion of divorces are caused by infidelity, I would say you are on to something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 08:01 PM
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You were hanging out in big city party atmospheres, and are getting disillusioned that those people are behaving like parties. If you feel like you do not share values with these people, find a new group or accept that that's how they are, but your little microcosm of people you hang out with does not reflect how all, or most people behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 08:00 PM
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A common theme I see among Red Pillers is this belief that every one is going out, partying, having sex, living it up, but them. Many lament, as if it is some great tragedy in their life that few have experienced, that they never dated in high school. The fact of the matter is that no, most people at any age, including college, and yes, that includes women, too, are not going out and having wild parties where they get black out drunk, and have willy nilly sex. Here is a great article from Time e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 07:45 PM
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You don't have to accept the behaviors of or be attracted anyone you don't want to be. The problem arises when you think it is your place to condemn people for behaviors that in no way affect you, as well as believe that all women behave a certain way because of some you meet. It is insecure and intellectual lazy. Now, to answer your question, do people change from how they were on college? Many people do! Do you think, say guys who are former frat boys, are still going on all night, alcohol, dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 07:28 PM
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I fully contend that TRP may help some men to be able to land one night stands that never have been able to in the past. You may be able to string a fuck buddy along for a few months with Red Pill tactics, but that is it. If that is your goal, you've found the right place. Proceed ahead. But more on that in a second. Although this has been said many, many times, TRP does offer some good advice: eat well, exercise, be confident in yourself, even if you have to fake it until you make it, don't let…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/13 07:11 PM
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Define relentless "From 11:00pm until 3:00am, Bill uses every line he can think of to convince Amanda to have sex with him, but she adamantly refuses. He keeps at her, and begins to question her religious convictions, and accuses her of being “a prude.” I'm sure the guy is/was a douchebag, but that shouldn't carry a punishment. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/13 06:34 AM
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when it comes to brief hookups or very early on in a relationship, the vast majority of women feel bad unless they turn down (delay) the guy, several times or even incessantly before they have sex. It's a fully reflexive thing meant to help them not feel like a slut. It doesn't matter if they are really into a guy, or even how much they want to have sex. Close, but not quite. While you certainly are correct in that some women will withhold sex at the beginning of a relationship, even if they wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/13 06:31 AM
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For the record, I feel the university's stance on this circumstance is a misguided attempt fueled by unintentional benevolent sexism. But with that being said, a common complaint I frequently hear from MRA and RPers is what you wrote here, that women want to take advantage of equal rights, without all the responsibilities that comes with those rights. There are indeed many aspects of our culture that still heavily reflect traditional gender roles. Traditions are simply not going to be stomped ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/13 06:12 AM
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It also tells them women need special protections because they lack the capacity/agency to make decisions on their own, which is not true of course. I'm sure that's doing wonders for the whole 'equality' thing they're striving for. This is basically legalized enforcement of chivalry, which is an artifact of the patriarchy they so hate. I agree with this assessment. What kind of psychological message does this send to men? That their desires are inherently deviant and need to be curtailed, that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/13 06:00 AM
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An observation being postulated by a 16 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 01:11 AM
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Here Another Blue Piller found where he confirms his age as 16. Scrolled through a few pages of his comment history and don't see it, but here he is posting in /r/teenagers about why he is excited to start back to school this year after summer break.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 01:02 AM
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Which is to a Red Piller, as I wrote, in the gutter, and not on the pedestal anymore. Both are dangerous extremes, and will lead to the same conclusion: misery* *Sociopaths not included.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/13 09:55 PM
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This doesn't make sense. Women will always live up to your unfair expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/13 07:27 PM
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A common belief I have seen among those who believe in submission woman/dominant man relationships is that "equal" relationships consist of two leaders constantly butting heads. This is not the case. In any relationship, one person is going to be stronger is some areas compared to the other. There are some things I have more dominion over, and there are certain things my husband has more dominion over in our household. We mutually decided on these roles early in our relationship. I trust that he…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/13 05:55 AM
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Exactly. Anyone can make a website, a user name, and spew PUA and Red Pill tips and be met with the attention and thunderous applause of hundreds and thousands of people. The other day on Red Pill there was a 16 year old kid espousing his expertise on relationships and the lives and thought processes of 30 year old women. It was very highly upvoted. What makes the PUA website I linked less valid than PUA techniques that you're thinking of? There are many, many PUA out there who claim to have dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/13 05:16 AM
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Yes, they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/13 12:48 AM
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Yeah... I know it's a terrible way to pick up women, and it is a very common technique used among PUA. Maybe not all PUA utilize it, but many do. Regardless, the point is that for the most part, PUA technique is a terrible way to pick up women. Their advice literally boils down to the numbers game: throw enough shit against the wall and hope something sticks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/13 12:21 AM
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Who is saying it is morally wrong for men to approach women in public? That is not the issue here. The issue is how it was executed, the general PUA attitude toward women, coupled with mayo's assertion that these guys' need to practice being more confident is more important than the time of the women they are hitting on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 08:29 PM
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Unicef people cause discomfort but you can still can respect what theyre doing. You're comparing harassing women in the mall with UNICEF? Mainstream (blue pill) techniques didnt work for all these guys and many more. Putting women on a pedestal is not a "mainstream, blue pill" technique. These guys, and Red Pillers, have gone from one extreme: being that pushover yes man who believes women are these ethereal beings, if they were ever even able to muster up the courage to even talk a female at al…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 08:06 AM
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The women don't owe them jack-shit, You just said that their issues are more important than the time of the women they are targeting. How is that not implying these women owe these guys at least 2 minutes of their time so these guys can practice on them? Causing a woman a small amount of discomfort is not a big deal. Actually, it is a very big deal, and the management of that mall is in agreement. The word "creep" generally refers to someone who does not understand, or refuses to acknowledge a o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 07:19 AM
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The PUAs need to overcome the problems they have with talking to women is more important than the 2 minutes of this woman's time. That is some serious entitlement. Women don't owe these guys jack. Women do not exist to fix socially awkward guy's problems. This attitude is one reason why many Red Pillers are so angry at women: They believe women owe them something because of this absurd pedestal they have placed women on. When a woman does not live up to the Red Pillers (unfair) expectation, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 05:04 AM
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I always think of TRP as hurt men describing women. And you don't think this causes their descriptions to be a tab bit emotionally charged and biased? How would you describe women to an emotional hurt non passive aggressive person that would empower him and also identify with his emotions? As a group of people who share the same gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 12:54 AM
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Then I felt like I was treated in a way that was equivalent to elementary school student. Sucks being patronized, like a child, doesn't it? Why do people think TRP is hate group? I don't care what any other said reasons of TRP are, even if they are for adopting puppies and kittens and feeding the homeless. When a large portion of your content is the following, you are a hate group. Do you really not see how people have a problem with this: Women have no value beyond their pussies I can't listen …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 12:26 AM
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Are you looking at the same graph I am? The curve representing the SMV of women peaks very quickly, descends very sharply, and spans over a much shorter period than the ascending, plateauing, ascending again to a peak, and then slowly descending over a very large span of time, curve for men. The original assertion still stands: TRP believes that men's SMV is "mostly age irrelevent."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 07:28 PM
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If she was joking, she was obviously flirting, but I am assuming the situation is #2. If you want to let her know she upset you with those comments, flat out tell her. Again, being snarky and rude, replying with "well then you should pay for your own food!" is overreactive, childish, and just plain looking to butt heads and create drama. My guess is that the girl thought she was being up front and forward about her boundaries and expectations, but it came off as assuming, entitled, and stuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 03:11 AM
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Yes, you're right about what she did, but as I said, your reaction is what I am calling into question. Why even waste your time trying to get back at her? What does that accomplish? A childish waste of time, to me. End of the date, tell her no thanks, and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 02:52 AM
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So just because you do not see eye to eye on a date, it gives you the right to be snarky and rude to her for the rest of the date? That's just childish and mean because you didn't get your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 02:46 AM
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Why would you waste your time with that? If you feel, on a first date, that you already have to play little games to keep the upper hand, why even bother with that disaster? She makes an odd, awkward comment, kind of ruining the whole night, as it seems. Finish the date cordially, and move on. You just seem like you're looking for head butting and drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 02:03 AM
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There have been a few surveys conducted in TBP, and most do indeed identify as feminists, but not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 02:00 AM
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How is it a privilege when it is causing victims? Because being a man is rarely seen as a handicap. You will more often than not never experience having your ability questioned because of your sex. You are assumed superior, competent, until proven otherwise. You will more often than not never experience being considered "other" for your sex. That is the privilege right there. Men can be victims of male privilege when they do not live up to the superior, capable male arch type. Privilege literall…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 02:19 AM
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It asks that women be treated "equally" in one breath, but then will tell you "not all women are like that" in another. Pleas elaborate on what you mean here. I am not seeing how demanding equal treatment, and pointing out how women are not a monolithic group, is indicative of hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 01:41 AM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/13 01:40 AM
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Why do you believe my ultimate goal is to paint women as victims? I illustrated examples above where men are victimized by male privilege, which I would argue is very oppressive toward men today, and increasingly so because men have less freedom than women to buck these roles. Privilege does not mean that all members of that group live a cushy life, or that they are to blame for the ills in society. It just means that there are more situations than not where your gender is treated as superior, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 08:20 PM
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There is difference between a patriarchal society where men can say what they want to a woman with little to no repercussions, versus saying feminists believe it is a man's job to stand up for a woman when she gets her feelings hurt. You have both changed the context of your original argument, and are misrepresenting the argument of the feminists you speak of.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 08:00 PM
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You're just bejng pendanic. Of course women need men to propulgate the species, but feminism saying a woman does not need a man refers to a woman not having to bear children, have a husband, submit to her husband, etc... if that's what she choses. That Steinem quote is not talking about the biology of reproduction. And it's fair to argue that you don't believe there are any core tenants of feminism. But to that I say if feminists are such a nebulous, undefinable group, so much so that you can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 07:55 PM
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Feminists believe that women do not need men to do anything for them, that women should be liberated from mandatory male dominion and gender roles. That is the core tenant of feminism. If a woman wants that, that is a different story, and is fine by many feminists. Of course women need men to reproduce, but feminism says that women don't need to reproduce is they so choose. I don't know how to make it any clearer the difference between needs and wants, and mandatory, enforced gender roles and ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 07:39 PM
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No, it's not. A No True Scotsman fallacy only applies when a defintion is not widely accepted. It does not apply when something is widely accepted as true. Another example would be saying that anyone who denies that Jesus Christ is the son of God is not a Christian, because that is the definition of a Christian. There is no official feminist doctrine, and yes, there is quite a bit of variation of beliefs among feminists, but a core tenet among all feminists is female liberation from mandatory ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 07:30 PM
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One of the core tenants of feminism is that a woman does not need a man to do anything for her. The famous Gloria Steinem quote "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" exemplifies this perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 07:25 PM
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The key to privilege and benevolent sexism is based on the beliefs of the inherent superiority and ability of one group over another. Expecting men to be providers is based in the belief of inherent male capability. And you are right, when people experience these things on an individual level, such as a man unfairly getting a job over a woman just because he is a man, or a female criminal getting off easy, of course they are not likely to speak up. The wider societal implication of such circumst…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 07:06 PM
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Maybe I am wrong here, but even the most anti-feminist individuals would agree that if a woman is getting upset at a man for not standing up for her, saying it is a man's job to protect her feelings, she is not a feminist. I am always amused at all the straw-feminist arguments I encounter online. One minute feminists are anti-chivalry maniacs yelling at a man for holding the door open for them, and the next minute they are getting mad at men for not protecting their feelings when that is alleged…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 06:49 PM
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I implore you to find me one example of a feminist saying men should protect women. And the one about getting black out drink in public is such a strawman. I think most people would advise against getting black out drunk, public or not. The issue, however, is saying women have some blame for violent offenses against them if they do black out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 06:30 PM
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Privilege, in the sociological sense, refers to a set of advantages afforded to a group based on the belief of their inherent superiority, ability, and default status, and what I mean by "default status" is that your group is generally never regarded as "other." When people refer to women being privledged, it is usually over a perceived advantages that are rooted in beliefs about the inherent inferiority or incapability of women, such as in the case of conscription. This is what benevolent sexis…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 06:11 PM
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What does that have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/13 05:25 AM
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You are complaining that Blue Pillers believe that women who wish to be submissive in relationships, rejecting "feminist" relationships ideals are not exercising agency, and are being controlled by an abuser, by saying Blue Pillers are not exercising agency because they have been brainwashed by feminism, and deep down really want to a Red Pill relationship. Give me a break. You spend four paragraphs essentially saying "I know you are but what am I?" Next, many RP contributors do indeed advocate …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/13 05:12 AM
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I really don't care to hear her perspective. It doesn't prove anything, and I not sure what you think it will. As I have stated many times in the past, my issue with TRP is this shit, not necessarily your relationship. If your girlfriend wants to play June Cleaver, good for her. I think many Blue Pillers do have a hard time wrapping their mind around why any woman would want to be a "submissive first mate" to a man. I know I cannot personally relate, but I do have friends who have such relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/13 03:38 AM
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Reading some of the other comments, I have noticed a lot of Red Pillers believe that many Blue Pillers believe that there are no differences between the sexes. That is not the case. The issue we have with TRP is the exaggeration of sex and gender differences, in addition to the oft-asserted reason for differences being based largely on biology. TRP likes to believe that the differences between the sexes/genders is "wildly divergent," to quote Vornash's comment here. That simply is not true. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 05:00 PM
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The three major issues I have with the experiment: I am curious as to why the experimenters have asserted that women who made negative comments toward the scantily clad woman made them because they saw her as a sexual threat. The motivation for the negative comments could very well be the reaction of someone dressed inappropriately in a casual, day time setting, rather than aggression based on feeling sexually threatened. A handful of college women in Canada do not represent all women. I am curi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 04:12 AM
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My husband has a B.A. in Art History. He worked in libraries a few years after school, got in with an IT company, and just got hired as a junior developer for a company a little over a month ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 01:45 AM
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Many people, STEM and liberal arts major alike, believe the job market for liberal arts majors functions the same way as it does for STEM. It does not. Liberal arts degrees often do not follow a very linear path. Those types of degrees can be a great springboard onto more lucrative post-graduate education and careers, and it can be a great foundation for an entrepreneur. Most small business owners that I know personally were liberal arts majors, and it can give you a leg up in many job prospects…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 01:41 AM
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800%? Try more like 20 times more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 12:51 AM
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Oh hi, SHITLORDHERE. Shall I report this new screen name to the mods so this one gets banned here, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 12:29 AM
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But you're assuming the reason for failure is because the relationships were "Blue Pill."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 12:26 AM
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Taking a first semester anatomy and physiology class would show you that you really have no clue what you are talking about. First of all, the brain and how people behave is eons more complex than the effect of just two hormones. Next, the amount of testosterone someone has has nothing to do with their ability to lead, and same goes for estrogen. Here's some food for though: black men have higher testosterone levels than white and Asian men. How many Red Pillers do you think are willing to conce…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 08:38 PM
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You have not informed me who has said that that a redpill relationship is "the only way". OP states in this thread that he believe Red Pill relationships would benefit 99% of relationships, and you assert the 80/20 principle. Believing that your ideology is the best way for the overwhelming majority of people, and that those who reject it are simply "outliers," is more or less asserting that you way is the only way to a successful relationship. TheRedPill attempts to subjectively understand the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 05:28 PM
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So the crux of so much of your ideology is "This is based on my observations and I bet you have observed the same thing, but you're unwilling to acknowledge it." Why do you think your anecdotal evidence trumps anyone else's anecdotal evidence? Do you really think the Red Pill comes from a strictly objectively observational perspective, and merely makes totally legitimate, non-biased observations on gender relations? But all those sociologists and psychologists who vehemently reject what TRP asse…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 05:00 PM
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I think this is a short sighted view to take. I personally cannot fathom being in a Red Pill relationship, but it does not mean others can't. My best friend has a pretty Red Pil relationship with her boyfriend, because that's what they both want. Speaking with her about what she expects of him and what he expects of her really did open my eyes to the different dynamics that can be in a relationship. Although I cannot empathize, I can understand that there people out there who want that life. I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 04:41 PM
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I don't care about you and your partner's relationship dynamic as long as both of you consent to that lifestyle. The problem is when you start projecting that onto other people, asserting that your relationship represents the natural order of things. The Red Pill likes to assert that biologically, women are one way, specifically that women are naturally submissive and seek a strong alpha to keep their inherently irrational, self-serving, amoralistic nature at bay. You take the position that rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 04:55 AM
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Edited with sources. The belief that men get taken to the cleaners during divorce simply is not the reality for most men. On average, men will see a 10% increase in their financial resources*. As for your claim that family law is biased against men, the fact of the matter is the overwhelming majority of child custody agreements are settled without court ruling. Less than 2% of child custody issues are decided by the court. Have there been men screwed over by the courts in family law? Sure, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 05:06 PM
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I never once implied that it is an easy, nonchalant process. But if things are so miserable in your marriage, either look into fixing them, or leave instead of cheating, which will certainly cause much more hell to be paid if the infidelity is revealed. And what happens to men in divorce is that most see an increase in their financial assets, never even seek full custody of their kids, and are overwhelmingly likely to settle child custody outside of court intervention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 05:02 PM
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There is a difference between a woman withholding sex as a weapon to emotionally control her husband, versus a relationship with mismatched sex drives. Neither of those examples is it ok for the woman to be raped, but both of those could be grounds for terminating a relationship. Cheating is such a cop out. If there are serious problem in your relationship, such as abuse or sexual incompatability, either work that shit out like an adult or leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 04:28 PM
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Typical Red Pill solipsism: I wish to be promiscuous, and find "double dipping" to be a turn off, therefore all men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 04:22 PM
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Shaming women for being a "slut" seems to be one of the core tenants of The Red Pill. Either you're not paying attention to a large portion of the content to an ideology to which you subscribe, or you're just being disingenuous. I would also like to point out how that article from Return f Kings is a perfect example of Red Pill solipsism: These are things I find unattractive in women, therefore all men find unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 04:19 PM
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Could you please describe to me what a "traditionally masculine man" is?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/13 12:20 AM
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So your response to my challenge to your assertion that feminists and TBP shame anyone who fits traditional gender roles, as evidenced by the fact that a lot of aspects of my life and relationship fit traditional gender roles, even as a feminist and fairly prominent Blue Piller is "nuh uh, that's not what you believe." Right. Sure, there have been feminists who criticize stay at home moms as sellouts, but that is a rare, extremist view, and you will find mainstream feminism and TBP largely adopt…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 09:15 PM
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So my anecdotal evidence is invalid, but yours isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 08:48 PM
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If women chased after nerds, emos, book worms, etc, You just described my perfect man. You just described my husband. It's not the there is something inherently off-putting about those things to all women. If you are into those things, and women don't like you, maybe it is something about your personality, or that you are chasing women who have no similar interests as you, than it is that women in general, don't like those things. The whole point of being alpha is to embody that which the majori…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 07:52 PM
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To a blue piller, a gender role is something that is imposed. The patriarchy tells women they ought to be stay-at-home moms. It tells men that they shouldn't do those thing. To a blue piller, a gender role is an instrument of oppression. A woman who actually wants to be a stay-at-home mom is either (according to blue pillers) deluded, has internalized the misogyny, or is just an uncle tom (special snowflake is the more modern slur that SRS uses). She is either a victim, or she is a collaborator.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 07:36 PM
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puaSenator was referring to an analysis done by a UK dating site for people in relationships looking to have an affair, on their users. The only mainstream media source who wrote about it was The Daily Mail.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 06:27 PM
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I think this is one of the most common misunderstandings. Granted a lot of the language and commentary could lead one to view it as this on just the surface, but on a deeper level this isn't really the case. So TRP does indeed have a lot of misogynistic "language and commentary," yet I am with one who has misunderstood "the deeper meaning" of TRP?" Sounds like a No True Scotsman to me and some mental gymnastics to avoid addressing criticism. First off, don't think that men on the sub are saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/13 06:05 PM
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Again, more patronizing language. You do not debate with honor And calling me an ass earlier was an example of your honor? But the word "honey" and telling you you don't know how searches work was totally dishonorable and out of line? Please. You spend more time attempting to find semantic holes, creating red herrings, and debating the tone of your opponent's argument than you do actually addressing anything I wrote. If the word "expertise" in that one sentence has you that hung up, change it to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 09:20 AM
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Honey, that first bolded text does not mean that they literally used the word expert to describe themselves. By writing long winded comments about how women think, what they want, and giving relationship advice, you are claiming an expertise on the subject. If I give out medical advice, I am claiming a level of expertise on that subject. Does it mean I am really an expert? Of course not. Is it you who does not have English as a first language?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 08:40 AM
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Yes, checking out the additional content submitted to contextualize the user you are having a conversation about sure is the epitome of cyber staking. /s Anyway, yes, I am aware the Red Pill is full of inexperienced men... many of whom still love to pontificate about the female psyche as well as occasionally dole out relationship advice. I had a long, drawn out conversation with RedSunBlue, and provided links to two Red Pill users, one in particular was a good example, the other, meh, I can find…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 08:32 AM
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Oh Jesus Christ. I never once said they have actually called themselves an expert, but the fact that they pontificate about the female psyche, and dole out advice on relationships, when they can't maintain a relationship themselves, or barely even get a woman to talk to them, is what I mean when I say they fashion themselves experts on subjects they have no business saying the first word about. I produced the user names of two users who do such things, as you asked. Read through their comments i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 08:09 AM
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You can easily just type in one word: anti-depressant, and find what you're looking for. What one search term do you suggest I use when looking for Red Pillers who dish out analysis and/or advice yet aren't doing so hot with women themselves? I've produced two examples of Red Pill users, just by randomly scouting comments, dishing out their analysis of women and relationships, yet who also talk about how they are down on their luck in the dating scene. As I wrote, when I have investigated the ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 07:23 AM
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/u/ThoughtCrime85 is an even better example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 06:52 AM
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Youre exhausting. It doesn't have to specifically be a submitted post in /r/seduction for it to confirm he has a hard time with the ladies. Just read some of his other stuff. And here is one comment in particular that has 8 upvotes. I'm not in RES so I can't see the total amount, but that is a pretty decent amount for a relatively small subreddit: Source.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 06:35 AM
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The user I found within a minute is phallic_audio. I said I'll work on compiling you a more comprehensive list, but it is past 1 a.m. and I'm about to head off to bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 06:09 AM
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I have no issue with the self improvement aspects, such as learning to take care of your physical appearance, being confident in yourself, even if you have to fake it to make it, standing up for yourself, yadda yadda yadda. I have found that several Red Pillers seem to be somewhat surprised when I agree with them on issues such as women should not be put on a pedestal. Where I have the problem is the belief that women are subhuman life support systems for their lady bits, who have no universally…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 06:06 AM
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As I wrote, I have seen several examples when do I look at the additional content submitted by a user whose Red Pill writings I find especially vile, not a single instance that jumps out at me. And please, don't take so much offense to little things. It makes you seem insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 05:56 AM
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No, really, I don't think you understand how search functions, especially the one here on Reddit, work. Do you think I can put "Red Pill user who gives lots of advice and analysis of the female psyche who can't get a date" into the search function? And I will work on compiling lots of examples for you if you so wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 05:45 AM
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Alright, so I assume by "one user who does both," you mean who pontificates about how to run a successful relationship, whether that be LTR or just fuck buddies, and how women think, yet is amazingly single and is asking other subreddits for advice on how to get girls to talk to you? Well first of all, I don't think you know how search functions work, but otherwise, a lot of my responses on TBP are in regards to these guys. I also just mosied on over to TRP and caught a live one within a minute.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 05:30 AM
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Does both of what things?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 05:08 AM
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Source? Uh, the entire subreddit? There have been several occasions a Red Piller will go off on a rant about what women really want, etc... and it gets highly upvoted, but just a few months prior they were posting on some other subreddit talking about how they can't even muster up the courage to talk to girls. You also have examples of mouth pieces of the movement, such as Mark Minter, Matt Forney, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 05:02 AM
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Yes, it is an ad hominem. You're dismissing my observations only because I post on TBP, claiming my observations must be cherry picked. And the karate class analogy is poor, and you really haven't understood my issue with TRP. My issue is not Red Pillers being inexperienced with women, sex, and relationships, but rather these types of people claiming expertise on those things. If that white belt were standing at the front of the class proclaiming they are a karate expert, I would be a little con…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 04:29 AM
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Ad Hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 04:10 AM
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Of course I haven't, but do you take fitness and diet advice from those overweight people at gym? No. You may commiserate with them, sure, but that is it. From what I have seen, The Red Pill is just an echo chamber of commiseration, and throwing whatever shit you can against the wall and hoping something sticks. If something sticks, you are now an expert on sex, dating, relationships, and the female psyche in the eyes of the Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 04:02 AM
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Single and/or divorced =/= not having sex. More to your point, do you have any source of theredpill holding the sexual advice of InCels (involuntary celibates) to any sort of high regard? They don't label themselves InCels, but the majority of Red Pillers I look into, such as doing a quick scan of heir comments and submissions, are self-admitted getting little to any action.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 03:02 AM
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So you agree you're focused on a very small subset of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 01:54 AM
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You linked me to a blog written by an Indian man on why 30+ year old Indian women may be single?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 01:48 AM
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Alimony is awarded in less than 20% of divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 01:42 AM
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I'm looking for the article, but some organization has been keeping track of the top 5 preferences both men and women have in a partner since the 1920s. For the first time, the results from this decade showed that a man's financial status had either fallen off the list for women, or at least fell from the top (I don't remember which, it's been a few months since I've read it), and for the first time a woman's financial status appeared on men's lists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 01:38 AM
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Younger, less educated/successful women are claiming the men they want for themselves. The average age gap between couples in the US is two years. The average woman marries at age 27, and the average man at 29, so it's not that men who are her age peers; in the 30s, are chasing younger, less successful, and less educated women, but that her dating pool shrank because these men were largely married when they themselves were younger. The Red Pill is obsessed with single women in their 30s. It's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 01:32 AM
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The old saying goes that if you want to catch a fish, ask a fisherman and not a fish. In the same vein, you don't ask a woman for advice on women. You shouldn't ask a starving man how to catch a fish, either, but lo and behold, the advice of largely single and divorced men is often taken as gospel on The Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 01:18 AM
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In the US, the divorce rate for first marriages is now around 40%. Of that 40%, roughly 2/3, or 26% of first marriages will end in divorce filed by a woman. So that is reasonable enough to claim: "women have no loyalty beyond their own narcissism," "it is highly unlikely you are going to meet an attractive woman with any sort of loyalty," and "the vast majority of women cannot love you and cannot be loyal to you." Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 01:15 AM
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But we know who gets fucked more when a divorce happens most of the time though And who would that be? Men? A study has demonstarted that men will see an average of a 10% increase in their financial resources upon divorce, whereas women will see an average of a 27% decline in her financial resources upon divorce. Source (yeah, the source is from the 90s, but my guess is that the gap is closing due to women becoming increasingly less financially dependent on their partner) The fact of that matter…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 12:48 AM
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So TRP is an opportunistic race to the bottom?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 11:03 PM
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Fidelity, honor, etc... are all universally coveted human traits, and the alleged lack of these traits in women is something Red Pillers use to demonstrate female inferiority. I usually don't get into discussions of morality, but what rationalization do you have that it is not wrong for society, according to your beliefs (with which I disagree) to handicap women in those regards? And with that being said, can you elaborate on what you mean by not wanting to assume too much about other's values a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 09:50 PM
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I would really like to see redpillschool's response to this. One of the major criticisms TBP has of TRP is the inconsistency of its beliefs. Whatever viewpoint will make women look the worst, in their minds, is lauded as the truth, but is subject to change to maintain the female villain.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/13 09:26 PM
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To prevent putting them on a pedestal. Many are prone to elevating women to an unreasonable status. It's fantasy. This is a thought so opposite to the perfection fantasy. Both are dehumanizing. It's moving from one extreme to the other, which, as matrix2002 wrote, fails to address the real issue of an unhealthy view of women. It just dresses the issue up in new clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 05:58 AM
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But it's not just about viewing women in a vulnerable position, "naked and pleasuring themselves," but rather stripping their dignity and value away by labeling them as "trashy" and "whores" in order to make them less intimidating. Ultimately, I can't control what he thinks, but if he is going to share his thoughts, I can criticize them as unhealthy for not only him, but it can and will color his interaction with women, people who will be on the receiving end of his disrespect, whom he ultimatel…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 03:34 AM
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I think I made that clear the first time I responded to you. When you can come up with a discussion based in reality, instead of using outlandish scerarios, I would be more than happy to discuss, and not just you personally, but anyone on purplepilldebate. Responding to that by saying that there is nothing wrong with your method of discussion and that the only reason I don't want to discuss with you is because my convictions are too weak and I am intimidated by you is being childish and dismissi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 09:05 PM
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Yes, letting you know how ridiculous and instigating your comments to me have been are just me being irrationally defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 08:44 PM
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It's actually mocking you and your attempt to egg me into debating you by saying the only reason I am not engaging you is because my convictions must not be very strong, and I am intimidated by your argument. My point was that until we can use realistic examples that represent reality, it's not even worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 05:56 PM
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You're throwing out a lot of accusations toward me, and then you're attempting to reprimand me for defending myself... Even though I would hardly call telling someone "believe want you want to believe" getting defensive. Must be some of that superior man logic I lack. Any discussion of rape here bothers me because it strays from the issue, and turns into a game oneupmanship and slippery slopes over who can come up with the most irrelevant, absurd theory: So we were both having sex with a hairles…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 05:30 PM
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Hun, I was more or less in agreement with you that the situation you brought up is not an example of rape. But not only that, it is a laughably absurd example that takes the focus off of the real issue. But if you want to believe the reason I don't join into the debate with either side here is because my beliefs are way too weak to stand up to your formidable Red Pill ones, by all means, go ahead. In realty, it is because I am too busy riding my unicorn around Cupcake Castle with my Alpha who ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 05:09 PM
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They keyword there is somewhat. I think mrsamsa summed it up well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 04:54 PM
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I've never gotten in on these RP/BP debate rape discussions because they always take a turn into the laughably absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/13 04:38 AM
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My point is that redpillschool claimed that "rape is special because there is no requirement for proof." I asked "in what world are men convicted of rape without proof?" And you responded talking about incarcerated men being exonerated of rape. As you acknowledged, flaws in the justice system are not unique to just rape cases, so what does your comment have anything to do redpillschool's claim that rape convictions are unique compared to other convictions? Your response was ultimately irrelevant…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/13 03:56 AM
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There are men released every year that have been rotting in prison because of a false rape accusation. Is this phenomenon unique to just men accused of rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/13 03:38 AM
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I'm just copying and pasting a reply I wrote to danabanana's question: list the great accomplishments women have had since their cultural and political emancipation in the west why hasnt the female Mozart, da vinci, aristotle, newton or tesla cropped up yet? where are all the great female polymaths who have always existed but were just kept down by men? where are the innovative, visionary female architects? Probably because the female Mozart, Maria Anna that is, Wolfgang's older sister, despite …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/13 02:20 AM
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Rape is special because there is no requirement for proof In what world are men convicted of rape without any proof? If I were a woman, and I wanted to ruin somebody's career/life/marriage, this would be the easiest, least expensive way to do it with no repercussions. Until the police, and maybe the courts determine there is no substantial evidence against you, your claim gets dismissed, you may even be charged with perjury, and you have the reputation of being a false rape accuser, and god help…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/13 02:09 AM
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why hasnt the female Mozart, da vinci, aristotle, newton or tesla cropped up yet? Probably because the female Mozart, Maria Anna that is, Wolfgang's older sister, despite showing an enormous aptitude for both performing and composing, was barred from composing music when young Wolfgang announced, after publicly performing, that the song he had just performed was composed by his sister's lady brain. A scandal ensued, because you just don't play the works of feeeemales, and due to severe embarrass…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/13 08:34 PM
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namae_nanka believes any peer reviewed studies that disagree with his ideology are "BS" and are conducted by "morons/ideologues" being controlled by "feminist society," and that random blogs and the musings of the opt-ed section of The Daily Mail are "worthier" sources. Source
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/13 08:11 PM
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Only they don't. They think they do, but they don't. Red Pillers fancy themselves as these ultra logical, rational intellectuals, when in fact they are insecure and emotionally driven, especially by the most powerful emotions: contempt, anger, and shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/13 04:17 AM
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I am not sure how easy it is for a man versus a woman to obtain casual sex, but from what I have seen in assertions about this, it is usually men pretty much saying "I have no clue what it is really like for women, but this scenario I made in my head seems good enough for me, so that's what I'm going to go with." But in terms of labeling a woman a slut, let's assume your assertion that it is easier for women to get casual sex is correct. Why does that matter so much? In this circumstance, both s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 06:33 PM
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But when you try to bring up a comment from a self proclaimed swallower of The Red Pill, all of a sudden "he doesn't speak for the movement" is a legitimate excuse. Categorization, stereotyping, and the such are all fine when Red Pillers are doing it to others, or are in the receiving end of a perceived positive prejudice, but when it conflicts with their image of themselves, all of a sudden generalizations and stereotypes are not cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/13 06:01 PM
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It would be one thing if this comment was the only sort of its kind, and that it was not condoned by the community, but that's the opposite of reality. Such sentiments are par for the course on TRP, and are heralded by the community. I find it disingenuous to act like people are being unreasonable for pointing to and discussing the comment in question as generally being represented to Red Pill ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/13 06:20 PM
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Y'all need to learn how to control yourself. The only time you should ever down vote something is if it is truly a rule violation, such as name calling. The down vote button is not a "I disagree with you" button. If you treat it like that, you make the place less productive for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/13 03:45 PM
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He has another screen name, SHITLORDHERE. I responded to one of his comments on an AskReddit thread about a month ago, and ever since then he stalks my comments, including here and even in non controversial subs, like the one of my hometown.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 10:20 PM
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So blogs rants and laughable studies whose only press has been on the opt-ed section of The Daily Mail are worthier than legit science because they confirm your bias. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 08:45 PM
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Do you really thinks its not obvious you're the same person? Trolling the exact same subs as SLH, calling everyone you interact with the exact same insults, and the abuse of smiley faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 08:38 PM
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Again, go away, SHITLORDHERE.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 08:26 PM
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Jesus fucking Christ. You're still stalking me?Go away, SHITLORDHERE.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 08:24 PM
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Heartiste's "proof" that women want to be inferior to men, in what he described as "a slew of the latest research," is an opt-Ed piece on the Femail section of The Daily Mail, citing one study of erotic fiction written on the Internet, published in a very controversial book. Wow. I don't even need to try here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 08:09 PM
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Indeed, there are some people who are more confident leaders than others. The problem with The Red Pill is that they tend to mistake the qualities in a "alpha" with bullying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 07:57 PM
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What's wrong with me explaining to them that the reason they've been so unsuccessful women is not why they think?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 04:50 PM
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I think others have done a good job explaining what this sub is about. I, for example, have been pre-banned from TRP simply for being a frequent on TBP. This place allows me the chance to challenge and discuss many of the beliefs and assertions that Red Pillers hold. Societal proof shows when given the opportunity, many women will fuck over their man (false paternity, divorce). False paternity accusations are exceedingly rare. Next, studies show that most men end up with more financial resources…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 04:31 PM
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That's not what I was saying. I was saying that it is fallacious for Red Pillers to immediately jump to the conclusion "women like to be disrespected" when they find their old tactics of "respecting women" (which is usually just positive sexism) don't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 04:15 PM
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Now TRP looks at this and starts the childlike inquisitive quest of asking "why?" Why does this seem like such a common trait? Why do girls respect him more, and subsequently like him more when he refuses to buy her a drink? Why does he choose not to do this? What type of characteristics lead to becoming the type of person that just naturally doesn't buy a girl a drink? You are not sure how to pick up women, and are looking for some advice. That is fine. The problem with TRP is that those intent…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 04:26 AM
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In response to this: all the women sleep with the few STD-ridden guys, while the STD-free guys are more likely abstinent you link me to this: Second - try some studies like this instead of NBC for science. First of all, the article is from the Associated Press, and is reporting on the findings of studies from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Secondly, that study you linked to does not say that "all the women are sleeping with a few disease ridden guys." The study says that men hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 01:49 AM
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Studies that show higher variability in male sexuality than female sexuality to explain why STDs are more prevalent in women - because all the women sleep with the few STD-ridden guys, while the STD-free guys are more likely abstinent Oh really? Care to cite this source? I suspect I'll be waiting for a while because the fact of the matter is that women have a higher rate of STIs than men because of the anatomy of the vagina compared with the penis. The vagina has a larger surface area, an enviro…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 12:38 AM
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Try and put yourself in Feynman's position. Why does "disrespect the girls" and "don't buy a girl anything" lead Feynman to think "those bar girls are all bitches," and similar thoughts? Why does he spend all day trying to think that way? When I first read the passage, that stood out the most to me as very strange. Feynman says he was raised to respect women. What he doesn't realize is that a lot of his beliefs about what is respectful to women are merely examples of benevolent sexism. He has al…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 12:24 AM
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I actually stopped replying to him several replies of his ago. He has still been stalking my every comment, and even harasses me on other subreddits that have nothing to do with feminism, men's rights, etc..., like my hometown's subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/13 05:28 PM
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Not only are you obsessed with me, you're obsessed with this notion that I don't have a college education. I actually have a B.A. in Linguistics, and worked in libraries for some time with the degree. I am currently transitioning fields, and will gradate with a B.A. in Nursing next spring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/13 04:43 PM
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I stayed at home with her until she was 2 1/2. I went back to work part time until just a few months ago, and am now full time. Again, what is it with this Red Pill belief that things are black and white: You're either a stay at home mom or ball busting career woman, and once you chose one of those, that is clearly your job status for the rest of your life. That's not how it works. So if anyone can answer your question best, it is me who has been both a full time at home mom and a full time work…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/13 01:54 AM
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Most parents who stay at home return to the workforce upon their children entering school. There seems to be this notion that you're either a stay at home mom, or a ball busting career woman. Reality is quite a bit more complex than that. Many women have been both career women and stay at home moms. Many women who are career women or stay at home moms are in their roles because of financial necessity. The Red Pill's consensus seems to be that no matter which role a woman is in, she is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/13 01:45 AM
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One time my husband accidentally framed our family's money as "his money," and oh hell no, that was the first and last time he ever did that. We, as a couple, made a mutual decision for me to stay home, raise our daughter, and take care of the household. We are a family unit, not adversarial forces competing for resources. Just like any other profession, there are lazy, resource sucking slackers who are stay at home moms. I mean hell, I know some women who married rich, and spend their day at Sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/13 01:35 AM
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It can be. Is being a stay at home mom more work than being an ER doctor at a major hospital in a large city? No, most certainly not. But it's just as mentally exhausting, if not more, as being your typical cubical jockey. When I was a stay at home mom, the thing that was the most difficult was the fact that you never really have a break. The work was 24/7/365. Even if you have a babysitter for a date night, you are still on call.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/13 01:25 AM
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You said that perfectly. All this is is an attempt to justify their hatred and degradation of women. If you dehumanize your victim, strip away their humanity, it legitimizes their abuse. This is a very common tactic among those with Antisocial Persoanlity Disorder. Rapists, murderers, serial killers, all the way to genocidal leaders utilize this tactic. The fact of the matter is that none of what redpillschool wrote is true. There is no scientific proof, and I'd bet it's a safe wager to say the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/13 06:08 PM
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Let me first preface my response with mentioning that alimony is not standard when it comes to divorce. Actually, it is quite rare. It is awarded in 15% of divorces, and the percent of men receiving alimony has been increasing. In addition, divorced women face, on average, a 17% decrease in their finances, whereas divorced men, on average, face an increase of 11% in their finances. Source This notion of men being taken to the cleaners upon divorce simply is not reality for most divorced men. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/13 01:47 AM
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A study found that women tend to display more variation, as a group, in what they consider physically attractive an unattractive, compared to men. Source So yeah, Red Pillers, the opposite of what you guys have philosophized about seems to be more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/13 01:38 AM
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Spermjackalope makes a really good point that often times the same women who believe men and women should adhere to traditional gender roles are probably not feminists. On the corollary, there are many men who expect their female significant others to work full time, contributing her fair share of the monetary aspect of households, but then also expect women to still bear the brunt of domestic chores and child rearing. Trying to frame women's rights and equality as a conditional privileged women…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/13 06:27 PM
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