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| 15 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way? | Question For Bluepill | potopotp | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 01:57 PM |
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| 1 | Verbal (enthusiastic) consent. A focus group.That's open for interpretation as far as I'm concerned. No. It's only open for your partners interpretation. If your partner feels as though you violated consent, and she did not give you consent, then you have violated consent. Violating consent would make you a rapist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/14 11:40 PM |
| 1 | Verbal (enthusiastic) consent. A focus group.It doesn't matter if that isn't EVC to you. It does matter to the person you may have possibly raped by not obtaining what she felt to be Enthusiastic Vocal Consent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/14 11:36 PM |
| 3 | TBP/PP women: If you were a man, how would you go about getting laid?I never went out just looking for a lay. Okay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/14 12:52 AM |
| 1 | What does the blue pill have to offer to the average, sexless college age male?you were never interested in having a discussion either. If you're talking effective sexual strategy without morals, we can definitely discuss. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/14 12:51 AM |
| 1 | What does the blue pill have to offer to the average, sexless college age male?I don't really know why you keep thinking the Red Pill is a cult. It's not like we're getting together in the woods and setting up compounds. It's a bunch of dudes venting their frustration to likeminded people. Most eventually move on from it, like you've demonstrated you yourself have. TRP is one of the few places where a dude can actually vent his frustration about the opposite sex in a non-PC way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/14 12:50 AM |
| 1 | What does the blue pill have to offer to the average, sexless college age male?Are you trying to say feminists aren't for equal rights? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/14 12:47 AM |
| 1 | What does the blue pill have to offer to the average, sexless college age male?Oh wow. If I were a random muscular asshole from the pick-up bar I'd definitely fail. I don't really know your wife too well, so I can't really say if I'd have a chance or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/14 12:46 AM |
| 2 | What does the blue pill have to offer to the average, sexless college age male?That TRP believes this is what we think is very strange. They are not the only venue offering to smack the neckbeard out of you, life usually does that just fine. Most of us just grow up. Thinking that coming to this obvious realization makes you special, that you've swallowed the red pill from The Matrix and everybody else is still "plugged in", makes you seem very childish. Some of us honestly mature slower than others. Have you ever considered at the age you made those realizations, you proba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/14 07:42 AM |
| -2 | What does the blue pill have to offer to the average, sexless college age male?Could you imagine anything that will change your mind to be Red Pill? If one of your arguments is shown to be faulty will you stop using that argument (with everyone)? Are you prepared to abide by basic principles of reason in discussing the Red Pill? If so, welcome to the Red Pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/14 07:36 AM |
| 0 | TBP/PP women: If you were a man, how would you go about getting laid?What's your success rate in terms of message to lay ratio? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/14 07:27 AM |
| 3 | TBP/PP women: If you were a man, how would you go about getting laid?A completely different experience. Women feel a lot more safe with other women. When a woman is with a man, she always has a fear that if she makes him too angry he'll kill and rape her. So it's harder for a woman to feel immediately comfortable with a man compared to a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/14 07:01 AM |
| 6 | TBP/PP women: If you were a man, how would you go about getting laid?Surf Criagslist personal ads This doesn't really work tho. I've tried. You're more likely to encounter Nigerian scammers who want your credit card number than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/14 06:58 AM |
| -1 | Rules on Dating and AgeHey, he's got some points. Why do Blue Pillers see every human interaction as adversarial transaction? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/14 01:04 AM |
| 4 | Rules on Dating and AgeWhatever is legal where you are is cool. Ignore the detractors. Stop looking at them for approval. Just stay within the law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/14 01:02 AM |
| 1 | The reason why women shouldn't care about RP…That's like saying that the human race would die off because gay men can't bear children. Just because some people identify as MGTOW or PUA does not mean society would cease. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/14 03:24 AM |
| 2 | The reason why women shouldn't care about RP…I don't really get how MGTOW and PUA will go away. I believe that as long as society does not give men gender roles that serve men, men will create gender roles in opposition to society. The MGTOW and PUA identity is part of how a man defines himself as in opposition to the status quo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/14 06:42 PM |
| 1 | "Everyone you meet is your mirror."It's not that certain strategies will flip a person's state. It's that a person's interpretation of someone's strategy is what does it. Sometimes good intentions will cause someone to turn from being cooperative to being competitive and uncooperative as hell. The competitors can be cooperators as well, but only when the right situations are presented to them. I am saying that everyone exists on a level between cooperator and competitor, and it isn't a black and white picture. It's a SPECTRUM. Li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/14 09:35 AM |
| 1 | Women say there isn't pussy power doesn't exist, but seems they maybe overlooking 'sex strike' power..Any action which justifies itself only by tradition, is honestly not justified. Do you understand that the acts aren't being compared, BUT THE JUSTIFICATION for the acts is being compared because it is the exact same? Because if you are, I am going to go ahead and assume that the only close contact you've had with a vulva was when you were born. It's actually offensive to me that you make that comparison - although it does demonstrate the effectiveness of a sex strike, if you consider the two ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/14 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Women say there isn't pussy power doesn't exist, but seems they maybe overlooking 'sex strike' power..As per the final point of my comment is: I fail to see how tradition is a justification for allowing sexual manipulation. Tradition is used as a justification for a whole load of horrible things, including genital mutilation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/14 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Discussing Shallow!Me: Of course not but that's their choice .... Doesn't appearance matter? Instead of this, I feel you could have counted back with: Would you sleep with a man you weren't attracted to? now: i.) what does shallow mean? Shallow in this context means, "i am making a value judgement based on your action to show I disagree with you as a human being" ii.) can you outline the difference between being shallow and stating your preferences. Yeah. Shallow is the subjective value judgement that someone gave… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/14 11:04 AM |
| 1 | Discussing Shallow!A lot of deep thinkers have problems with social abilities. Mostly because they're thinking so much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/14 10:57 AM |
| 1 | When you find out a man or a woman has a high partner count, how does that change your perception of them?I don't really meet women with higher partner counts than me that often unless I'm with escorts (but I mean, clients don't actually add to their number count, so...) I think once you get to a certain point, you just end up not really meeting many people that have partner counts that are close to yours. I think I'm around 10-12 times the average partner count of the average man my age. Every now and then I'll meet someone who's up around 500 or 700 but that's a rare thing. When I had only slept w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/14 10:54 AM |
| 1 | Just some food for thought, comparing blue pill and atheismRed Pill is just a rejection of the status quo. If you are someone who rejects the status quo, then you are a red piller. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/14 10:42 AM |
| 1 | "Everyone you meet is your mirror."The manipulator uses the defense mechanism of projection in her dealings with the world of others. She believes that given a choice, everyone else believes the same way she does. In other words, other people see the world in the same start win-lose terms. She feels that others also believe that they can play or they will get played – and that given a choice, others will always opt for being the controlling/manipulating party. She feels that others only feel their own needs – which the manipulato… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/14 10:39 AM |
| 1 | Men who prefer thin women- why is this a bad thing?Since the government "shames" me with a fine for not wearing a seatbelt Are you saying you believe that obese people should be fined by the government? Or that the government shouldn't be fining me for not wearing a seatbelt. I guess if you're against people shaming unhealthy things like being obese or heck, suicide. You're against suicide prevention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/14 10:22 AM |
| 0 | Casual Sex, Gender, and The Pills -or- is creepiness inevitable?As long as we live in a society influenced by gender, the sexual experiences between most men and most women hooking up will be different. As long as a society believes that gender exists, then gender roles are influenced by that society. However, if you look at it in the most vague terms possible, the experience can totally look the same. Man woman meet, have sex, fin. But when you consider things like: Hook-up expectations between genders. Shave/no-shave (time to shave as well) Clothing Make-u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/14 10:14 AM |
| 2 | Women say there isn't pussy power doesn't exist, but seems they maybe overlooking 'sex strike' power..Given that violence was a traditional form of protest dating back to a period in history where it was one of the few forms of power men had, I fail to see how tradition is a justification for allowing sexual manipulation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/14 10:02 AM |
| 7 | Casual Sex, Gender, and The Pills -or- is creepiness inevitable?Now, about the differences between young men and young women in the world of casual sex. I'm just not sure I agree that they are that remarkable. Me and my female friends carry out or promiscuity in nearly identical ways; that is to say, through networking. Man, but networking is kind of a super vague term. That can mean a whole variety of activities. Heck, even street PUA can be considered "networking". I think you're really downplaying the differences between the male and female gender roles i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/14 09:55 AM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?By stated you mean "people stating their uninformed opinions", correct? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/14 02:11 AM |
| 2 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Common enough to tell you that an age gap between sexual preferences does not make someone a manipulator. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/14 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Mebbe that's how attraction works for you. But what gets other people off can be confusing. I mean, if Playboy got everyone off, porn would certainly be a lot more boring of a world. I'm pretty all over the place in terms of my own attractions, but I've met women who're only attracted to younger men, women who only like Black Men, women who only feel attraction towards Asians, women who feel physical attraction towards animals. I can't really understand what everyone is going to be attracted to.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/14 02:01 AM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?How is having a consenting relationship taking advantage of someone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/14 01:56 AM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?20 years ago, your average person would've called any man who'd sleep with another man a faggot. But at the same time, your average person wouldn't have killed a gay man, or been against other people being homosexual. The average person supported that people could be homosexual despite slurring it and hating them. Being a MGTOW means going your own way, and realizing how little it matters what society judges on what you do. Live how you choose, not what Norm and the Normatives decide for you. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/14 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Uh. Not only this, someone 18 can marry anyone they like, so like society and the state are fully supporting this. As long as you believe that an adult can consent to sex with any other adult, you support these relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/14 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?because there's little reason to ignore all the other women outside of that. PHYSICAL ATTRACTION IS A REASON | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/14 01:48 AM |
| 2 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Yeah, but then you have one person dominating the relationship, with one person hopelessly in tow. Uh, not actually. The relationships with older women I've had have taught me a lot about emotional maturity. People with more experience in life can teach a lot of things to someone younger, and a bit of romance can make that sort of relationship more fulfilling. Don't assume that experience and maturity naturally lead to manipulation. I think the fact that you feel that these aspects lead to manip… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Social norms do change. The average person does support a legal age of consent of 18 or younger, so they actually already do support these relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 10:13 PM |
| 6 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?The 18-year old is simply much less experienced, which leads to potential problems. Which can be handled. Especially when someone is experienced with dealing with younger women. Something someone who exclusively dates younger women would have. Manipulation is manipulation. Not an age gap. All I am seeing are people shaming others for their relationship preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 07:18 PM |
| 0 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?No. The existence of the law makes it okay. Do you really think we can live without laws, and instead live by your moral judgements? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 06:26 PM |
| 8 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?I can say this reflects my own experiences. This is exactly why I red pill. It's the only place where discussion of the "issue that they can't/won't address honestly", can actually take place. I do not want to hear the shaming. I don't want to hear, "oh, this is wrong". I want to know, what the fuck is actually happening in the world. Are there really relationships like this out there? What makes them work? Can they be healthy? What influences these real human interactions to happen? If we can n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 06:23 PM |
| 2 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Not true. We have 30 year olds taking advantage of 18-year olds all the time. We call them entrepreneurs or job creators. They manipulate youth to take shitty low paying jobs to survive, while making huge profits! Society is okay with this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 06:15 PM |
| 0 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Social norms. Like GENDER ROLES?!? Normative is oppression. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 06:13 PM |
| 5 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?How does a healthy loving relationship between a 30-year old and an 18-year old damage them? Why does an age gap automatically mean manipulation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Intellectual exercises based on the impressions of the Red and Blue pill philosophiesEveryone is different, right. So they're all going to do a bunch of things to figure it out. Figuring out who you are isn't something that's easy at all. Is it because he is a "beta male" that needs to "man up" lift some weights, etc? Is it because he is a homosexual and needs to accept that? Why not let him try and figure it out. Every lifestyle has it's ups and downs. Making errors is only human. Experimentation is understanding. If RP works, it works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/14 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Intellectual exercises based on the impressions of the Red and Blue pill philosophiesWhat they hate about TRP is what they hate about themselves. The mirror exists so that they can see themselves as they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/14 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Intellectual exercises based on the impressions of the Red and Blue pill philosophiesWhat we may call Blue Pill philosophy is the acceptance of the growing spectrum of sexuality and self-identifying ways of being beyond genetic determinism. Beyond genetic determinism, in terms of self-identification? Like say having a job, and defining yourself through that? Self-identifying beyond gender is something that's been done for a really long time now. It nurtures who we feel we are however unique or strange that may be to society. So, essentially, blue pill philosophy is that we have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/14 10:08 PM |
| 1 | On language and its uses: RP vs BPThe cold, hard truth for all human beings is: if you want an exceptional mate, you're going to have to be exceptional. It would definitely be good if we could teach children this, or at least get it across to them that, for most of them, they're not just going to be able to turn 18 and jump effortlessly into a world of romantic happiness. At times I think that trying to preserve the natural optimism and innocence of children in some ways ends up doing them a disservice. I agree completely. This … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 05:11 AM |
| 2 | On language and its uses: RP vs BPAnybody over the age of, I dunno, 23 ish and with some relationship experience under their belt is probably going to have learned that expecting things from the opposite sex, based only on sex, is not always, or even generally, going to go well. It would be nice if that were the case. TRP is where those who haven't learned that lesson end up. Much of what the "rage" is about, is dealing with this reality as they were told very different things growing up about relationships. The process of the e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 04:51 AM |
| 3 | On language and its uses: RP vs BPNo. I'm talking about something really simple here. The things you want out of a man, are things that if he were to want out of a woman he'd be shamed as a child for wanting. The treatment you expect as a woman, is the sort of treatment that if a man asked for from a woman, he'd be shamed for as a child for wanting. The reason why Red Pill men call women children is because, the things that women want, should a Red Pill man himself want, he would be shamed for being a child for wanting. I am tal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 03:00 AM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?Explain to me how negging Negging is hard to explain because it's a complexity of flirting. Sometimes when you flirt with someone you'll have banter and increase emotional intensity by doing so. It is done playfully and coyly, with the hint of challenge. (and this is still a really bad explanation) Unfortunately when explained by Mystery in his M3 model, everyone interpreted it to mean "insult women, get blow jobs". or dread game works if not to manipulate a woman so she will be compliant to you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/14 02:23 PM |
| 2 | [Question For Redpill] How important is it to have your own place if you're gonna hook up with chicks?Are there TRP's out there who are in the game but live with other people sharing a flat? Make sure to have your own room/privacy area and a roommate that's cool with you spinning plates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/14 02:00 PM |
| 1 | In terms of game theory, what would happen if red pill ideas became mainstream?Game theory is always adapting. What was game theory 20 years ago is the mainstream now. It's evolution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/14 01:57 PM |
| 4 | On language and its uses: RP vs BPSpecifically on the 'treat women like children' thing. Has anyone ever listened to what a lot of women say they want from men? Do you know what I hear from female friends, and what I myself have felt in relationships? That we want tenderness. Tenderness is a first I've ever heard. I've heard rich, muscular, well-paid, travels, a good humour, down to earth, has good drug connections, has a really big dick, knows how to use his tongue, someone who can make a girl angry but want more, a large house… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/14 01:43 PM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?Are you kidding me? Hate is the OPPOSITE of love! No, you can't love something you truly hate. Hate is mistrust and dislike, love is trust and affection. They are diametric opposites. Your argument is illogical. Duh. Of course it's illogical! It's an argument about emotions. Yes. Human beings are capable of love and hate of the same thing at the same time. We have these terribly complex things called emotions that make us have all sorts of feelings towards people. Sometimes that feeling is hate.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/14 01:23 PM |
| -3 | Why is it illegal for women to walk topless while we men can do so?It's not illegal everywhere. It's an outdated law that not really many women fight for unless they really protest about it. Women have been busy telling men not to rape instead of fighting for their rights. It's sad that the fight for female rights just became the fight to police another gender instead. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/14 09:21 AM |
| 1 | Wikipedia Controversial_Reddit_communities; MensRights. Not a peep about SRSWhat hope is there truly when you consider that the government is paying people to edit wikipedia essentially by giving money to organizations to fund women to do this. Wikipedia will fall just like the rest of the MSM controlled internet. The feminists have already changed this. Our future will be one in which all Science, Philosophy, and Truth will be held subject to feminist jurisprudence. Biological truths like Males having an X and a Y chromosome will be eliminated, and all will refer to ea… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/14 09:14 AM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?When you express an opinion like "TRP loves women" when you've already admitted the misogyny and rage on the TRP forum in an early reply you undermine your own credibility. Certain members of TRP may love women, the base philosophy might not explicitly hate women but the way that philosophy is interpreted by TRP members is often as misogyny. Right. Because hate keeps someone from love. Sorry, but being a misogynist doesn't prevent someone from being capable of the emotion of love. Especially tow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/14 08:56 AM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?TRP loves women. You have given no proof to support this as fact. How does one even prove their love? No one should ever have to prove their love. Having someone prove their love is often the act of an abuser in a relationship. It's an act of manipulation used to disregard and dehumanize the opinions and feelings of the victim. You can advocate for self-improvement without advocating using women to meet your needs and discarding them or thinking of them as subhuman. Can you point out where TRP a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/14 04:54 AM |
| 5 | Why is there a NEED for a strategy?Exactly where you started, but with more casual sex experiences. Still better than getting an unpaid internship in all honesty. But that's the whole point really. The experience. It's actually really hard to legitimately answer the question: Do you see promiscuity with no real emotional connection as being a long term plan for your life? Without having some sort of life experience to know how you feel about your hooking up in such a way. Or even understanding "real emotional connection" is suppo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/14 12:59 AM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?My cuteness has nothing to do with your argument or my argument. It's a personal attack, and this subreddit does not support personal attacks. Never mind that you've claimed to: I don't think I've ever made fun of a Terper because of their behavior Because here you're absolutely attempting to make fun of one for their behaviour. Such hypocrisy. Look, you want to know why TRP is "correct"? Because it's actually a forum that advocates self-improvement for it's members. TBP on the other hand is jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/14 12:51 AM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?Don't be cute, Don't police behaviour of my gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/14 04:52 PM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?So you agree that the posters on TBP are hypocrites. That is awesome. They call women plates, call them children, call them sluts who ride the cock carousel. AWALT they say. All women are worthless apart from to pump and dump. They call men who don't think the same Beta losers. All of it is said with deadly seriousness, all of it said to make women out to be sub-human and disposable. Yeah, somehow this isn't actually mainstream thought at all. If anything the fact that it is not indicates a matr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/14 10:50 AM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?Terpers tend to go from one end of the spectrum of putting women on a pedestal to denigrating them as hopelessly flawed. I do think of Terpers as human beings, misguided in some ways(we all are) but still valuable people none the less. So you view TRPers the same way they view women. Okay. However I understand how a lot of people on the Blue Pill forum feel frustrated that there is nothing they can do to change terper's opinions and they need some cathartic release from said frustration. If I ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/14 08:54 PM |
| 2 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?So you're saying, someone's inability to treat a person as a person is a result of a lack of social skills? This seems to be a pretty shitty thing to make fun of someone for. Why make a forum to make fun of these people instead of trying to help them learn how to be more social? You know. Treating them like people? I guess TRPers aren't worthy of being treated like human beings. Some people are less human than the rest of us, or so TBP demonstrates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/14 06:52 AM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?How is making fun of someone's loneliness an attack on their hateful beliefs? You can point out how someone's hate is misguided without shitting all over them. Regardless of your justification, you're still shitting all over and bulling people just because they have different beliefs than yourself. If you need be evil to stop evil, evil still prevails. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/14 02:22 PM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?This is how you should Why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/14 08:36 PM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?Why are you glad about anti-Americanism? Do Blue Pillers hate America? :c I love hamburgers and rock music. Uncle Sam is a cool superhero. I like how he defeats everyone using greenbacks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/14 07:52 PM |
| 1 | 100 Days, 100 Nights to know a Mans heartit's more that I know i'd embarrass myself if I sent drunk texts to girls, so I vent my emotions using this outlet instead. TRP is really awesome to vent when you are frustrated with women, and is a supportive emotional outlet for many men. Full emotional expression allows men to fully realize themselves, and I hope more such places exist into the future to allow men to truly express themselves in ways society has sought to oppress. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/14 07:31 PM |
| 2 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?Yeah. Believing in equal treatment for all people under the law definitely makes me a bad person. How dare a bunch of dudes make a forum to vent on their relationship woes and strategize how to solve them! Even though bankers are stealing billions, governments are oppressing people, and we're all being spied on... it is Red Pillers who are making this world a worse place. Silencing and ostracism are pretty reasonable responses to your bigotry. Can't help you, but maybe we can make you less appea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/14 07:27 PM |
| 1 | 100 Days, 100 Nights to know a Mans heartnot even drinking just hung over yes... reddit is definitely my drunk and high as fuck text. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/14 07:13 PM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?Those who advocate against misogyny on the basis that it is bigoted should endeavour not to be bigoted themselves. If you want others to follow the golden rule, don't be surprised when they call you out for not abiding by your own morals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/14 07:11 PM |
| 2 | 100 Days, 100 Nights to know a Mans heart100 days is around 3 months. For a lot of different reasons, the 3 month mark usually seems to be one of the points in a relationship where break ups are common. Scientific evidence of this claim... Sorry, this is a completely anecdotal claim. While I'm aware there is probably related research I'm currently hungover and brain hurts. It may be confirmation bias on my part since there are tons of relationships that go beyond the 3 month/100 day mark. But I've generally witnessed that the 3 month m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/14 07:04 PM |
| 2 | Boyfriend MaterialDon't be a provider unless you feel like getting fucked around on. | /r/TheRedPill | 09/03/14 11:08 AM |
| 4 | On hypergamy... again.no i meant stuggling i am stuggling with finding the r key | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/14 09:57 AM |
| 3 | On hypergamy... again.PUA theory takes this into account. According to some PUA theorists, a man is rated in two ways. His potential SMV value, and his current SMV value. Starving artists, stuggling musicians, people studying to become doctors and people who are passionate but do not have a current success can be said to have a high potential SMV. Though they're low value currently, the potential for them to improve into something amazing are attractive to women. Men who lack current SMV and who do not have any poten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/14 09:55 AM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?TBP is totally bullying. The only reason you don't see it that way is because you feel it's justified given your opponent. Which honestly, given Ghandi's example, is just shameful. Fighting for justice while being unjust. Much like the America we know today, the SJW TBPers are hypocritical to the point it's laughable. Concern trolling? If you believe in treating HUMAN BEINGS like HUMAN BEINGS, then your actions should reflect the cause you're fighting for. If you think it's appropriate for human… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/14 08:47 AM |
| 1 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingWhat isn't exploitable really? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/14 01:08 AM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?So you're saying, "Bullying is okay when we do it!" I am in awe of such paragons of virtue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/14 01:08 AM |
| 2 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?treat her like you would a friend. We respect our friends friends Why is that so hard to do Yeah, this advice is great if you're anyone BUT a terper. TRP level one dudes usually have very little ability to interact with other people. You have to understand, you're writing advice for someone who's socially been on a deserted island for their whole life. It's probably great for BPers to sit back and mock the dudes for their misogyny as they're raging out, and just laugh and mock dudes for struggli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/14 01:10 PM |
| 1 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingTRP had to separate from the MRM movement mostly because TRP cares more about exploiting society than changing it. The exploitation of society which is already exploiting you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/14 01:02 PM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?Everyone is narcissistic on some level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/14 01:00 PM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?To realize that there's a full-fledged being behind the skin Beings are things that are killed. If you've killed an object of pleasure and recognize that it is dead. Then you've realized that there's a full-fledged being! (Can blue pillers give advice that doesn't try to teach Red Pillers to kill women for once?) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/14 12:59 PM |
| 1 | Is "Feminism" what angers or is it something else?We'll see in 40 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/14 12:56 PM |
| 2 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingBoys need outlets too! This is why TRP exists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/14 08:41 AM |
| 1 | Is "Feminism" what angers or is it something else?Russia is rising. We'll have to see how history will unfold. Anything else is just guessing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/14 05:15 AM |
| -1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?My comparisons were apt. Dark Triad Alpha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/14 02:18 AM |
| 1 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingNo jocks, no punks, no bad boys skulking about? Where I grew up, we did not have extra-curricular activities except for a girl's rugby team and a girl's volleyball team. (No boys rugby team because it would be too violent) We didn't have jocks, though we had drug dealers and addicts, but they were generally scorned by the majority of the student body and the larger community. We definitely had a problem with racism, where minority students would get attacked by white supremacists. But sexism was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/14 02:16 AM |
| 4 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingPublic education, conservative area (by comparison to the immediate surrounding area) in the North Mid-East, very middle-class and rural. I heard this this sort of thing all the time growing up. but growing up the boys in my class weren't afraid to push us girls around The boys would absolutely never touch a girl this way. If a girl made one complaint of a man laying a hand on her, everyone would be jumping up at the opportunity of beating the boy who'd lay their hands on a girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/14 01:58 AM |
| 2 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingSo much this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/14 01:51 AM |
| 0 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?You don't even know how I make purchases bigot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/14 01:48 AM |
| 1 | Is "Feminism" what angers or is it something else?Yes, the same Russia that prevented the U.S. from going to war with Iran, hosted the Olympic Games, and is taking over the Ukraine as the U.S. loses it's regional power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/14 01:45 AM |
| 0 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?Are you seriously comparing someone's character traits with their physical traits? They're two different things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/14 01:43 AM |
| 0 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?Which seems to be a subset of Neo-Reactionary as it is termed. If we're all neo-reactionaries, does that mean Edward Snowden was right and SRS and TBP is made up of paid government workers? If so: would be interested in job depending on salary and location. (can I like just do it over computer yo, type of screeds while having a vacation in middle America)? Am I ALREADY a government agent. Or a bowl of rice dreaming it is a government agent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 09:06 PM |
| -2 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?So, EFFECTIVE dark triad alphas. Thanks for the clarification. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 09:01 PM |
| 0 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?It's an interesting idea worth experimenting with at least. To come to TRP kind of means a dude suffers from a lot of issues, it's something a TRP has to dedicate years to getting over. It took me 3-4 years before I stopped raging out about women as much, and just started getting how stuff actually works. I guess instead of children, we just go up to grown women instead and start conversations with them. Unless we're ghosting... then we're invisible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Is "Feminism" what angers or is it something else?Seems like our government gets less and less viable everyday. Is it any wonder a country following TRP philosophy like Russia is rising while America is floundering in a sad goo of blue pill despair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 08:53 PM |
| -5 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?So she was attracted to alpha dudes displaying dark triad traits. Awesome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 08:31 PM |
| 5 | Is "Feminism" what angers or is it something else?democracy ceases to be a viable form of Government. Pretty sure that's what America's founding fathers felt. Which is why they established a republic with inalienable rights. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 08:30 PM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?But isn't PUA just a part of TRP philosophy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 08:28 PM |
| 2 | Is "Feminism" what angers or is it something else?Isn't that just personal struggle? Everyone has there own strengths and weaknesses. Not every female is the same as you, and not every female would have had the same experience as you. Everyone gets different things to struggle with. What I don't get is, When a man is struggling, the advice is, "Man up". But for a woman it's "you are the victim of a glass ceiling", once again women casted as the acted upon. The very notion of a glass ceiling is honestly problematic and offensive because robs wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 08:26 PM |
| -2 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?It's been an hour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 08:15 PM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?unless said guy also doesn't know how to platonically interact with people in general. This is a major problem that many people on TRP eventually have to confront. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 08:14 PM |
| 2 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?Correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 08:12 PM |
| 4 | Is "Feminism" what angers or is it something else?No. Democracy is a form of government. Forcing your beliefs onto others is an action not a form of government. Therefore forcing your beliefs onto others is not democracy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 06:09 PM |
| 3 | Is "Feminism" what angers or is it something else?But when none of the women are invited you figure I see you are using figure to mean assume. You are aware of what happens when one assumes. Gender is an incredibly simplistic measure by itself. I am glad to see you dropped this from the definition of glass ceiling you are using. Intersectionality theory is a step in the right direction, but more is needed. Ultimately, none of that necessarily "proves" the "glass ceiling" is a thing. The "glass ceiling" is a concept used to describe the link bet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 06:06 PM |
| 3 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?I didn't interpret anything pillburt as saying as indicating that I didn't know how to socially interact with people. He put the bold Blue pill translator: To indicate that he was "translating" what your statement was implying to make it more obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 05:47 PM |
| -6 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?I can only imagine how rough you must've had it then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 05:33 PM |
| 3 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingUgh. Such gaslighting. This post isn't about anti-masculine ideas(as in "be yourself", "be a nice guy", "don't be violent") not anti-male ideas and those two things are different. You've changed the subject tons of times. In attempts to confuse me. All you're doing now is gaslighting in the most overt fashion possible. THE POST WAS ABOUT GASLIGHTING. See the post topic: The Blue Pill & Gaslighting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 05:32 PM |
| -3 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?Criticizing the people who identify with an ideology however IS bigotry by definition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 05:19 PM |
| 3 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingSo when a male's balls are kicked and sexually assaulted. Does that count as anti-male? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV1LWhNpTJU P.S. IDENTIFYING AS A MAN DOES NOT TAKE MAKE A MALE BORN A MALE SUDDENLY NOT MALE. P.P.S. The message is not ONLY anti-masculine. By stating that the message is "real men aren't nice guys, real men are tough", you are removing the part of the message that says "men who are victims deserve to be laughed at". And that's actually what's sick about what you're doing. You… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 05:17 PM |
| 2 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?Okay. I can get where you're coming from. But say on Muglar, us cloud creatures like humming to each other really freaking loud ESP chimes whenever we pass. We also find sniffing each others cloud sphincters to be an act of kindness. I guess what I'm trying to say is: A TRPer is at his lowest level of development has this huge amount of narcissistic ego that makes it so when they're dealing with a human being, they might as well be a Muglar. The advice: Be kind. Be considerate. Be respectful. Is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 05:04 PM |
| -9 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?How am I being bigoted? Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats or views other people with fear, distrust, hatred, contempt, or intolerance on the basis of a person's opinion, ethnicity, race, religion, national origin, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, disability, socioeconomic status, or other characteristics. Because I have come to a conclusion about the difference between how RPers regard men and women based on conservations wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 04:52 PM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?Neither. Hypothetically, let's assume I'm an alien from the planet Muglar. I am a gaseous being made up mostly of sulfur, my species has no concept of gender or solid form and reproduces using starlight and gravitation fluxes between the moons that surround my planet and we communicate using ESP. We do not know how to lie, nor how to be violent or even kill for we have never needed to. How do I treat a man like a person? How do I treat a woman like a person? How do I treat a person like a person… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 04:49 PM |
| 10 | Is "Feminism" what angers or is it something else?If women systematically don't achieve much Achieve much of what? I think it's fair to believe Belief is awesome. Especially when their personal beliefs. Some people think it's fair to believe there may be a god. Personally myself, I think it's fair to believe forcing your beliefs onto others isn't fair at all. One part of feminism that TRP hates, is the part where groups of feminists and white knights get together to shame men, ruin their ability to work, find employment, and expel them post-sec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 04:42 PM |
| -8 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?Treating people like people means making them wait for answers according to blue pillers clearly. I am a person, and if blue pillers treat people like people, then blue pillers must believe that people should have to wait for their answers based on their own action/inaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 04:24 PM |
| 1 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?TRP teaches you how to deal with and accept women for their true repugnant nature. Let us not forget the sage advice of TRPer Marilyn Monroe. “I'm selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.” Seems like Red Pill is teaching dudes how to pick-up girls like Marilyn. Judging by many of the conversations I had with red Pillers yesterday, the answe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 04:22 PM |
| 2 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?What does treating a person as a person actually mean? I see this get thrown around tons, but what does treating someone as a person actually even mean? How do I treat a person as a person as opposed to a not-person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 03:52 PM |
| 9 | Is "Feminism" what angers or is it something else?I think they didn't invite me because It's too bad we'll never actually know why they didn't invite you. Not sure how your subjective interpretation of an experience proves there's a glass ceiling anymore than a blue pill nice guy being rejected by a girl proves that women only like alphas though. Could it be that the possible that the part about feminism that angers dudes, is that part that enables you leap to the conclusion the THE PATRIARCHY and the Glass Ceiling are holding you back as oppos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 03:51 PM |
| 0 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingMoralizing isn't the same as having morals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 03:40 PM |
| -5 | If Red Pillers just need to treat women like people, can Blue Pillers explain how to treat people like people in an affirmative way?Are blue pillers capable of treating women as people? The lack of an answer is the answer to this question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 03:39 PM |
| 0 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingSo where do we discuss how to be villains? Where do we go to discuss how to not be nice guys? Where can I find a bunch of people that are disliked by many and are well known for being the opposite of nice, discussing sexual strategies without morals? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 01:50 PM |
| 2 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingAs long as the prom queen is capable of marriage, then there is always the possibility of being the person who marries her. Fortunately, even though not everyone gets to marry the prom queen, the right to dream can never be taken away. Despite the persistent bullying of blue pillers who would stop the world from ever having a dream again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 01:44 PM |
| 1 | The Blue Pill & Gaslightinghttp://ncfm.org/2013/12/action/anti-male-media-bias/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_are_stupid,_throw_rocks_at_them!_controversy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 01:32 PM |
| 0 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingIt's insulting to keep pointing out to red-pillers that they think women have the emotional and mental capacities of small rodents, only to be told that "no we don't, where did you get that?" only to point out the examples from TRP to them to be told "well you were supposed to ignore that particular example, and that one too, because only 1,000 people upvoted it and those guys don't matter." Right. It actually is insulting that you think that's the argument. TRP has over 40,000 subs. If you thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 01:29 PM |
| 1 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingThis resonates pretty well with my experiences as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 01:24 PM |
| 1 | What is the Blue Pill view regarding the psychological differences between men and women?From what I have witness from blue pillers, it's always something about how there is no differences between men and women because that's gender. Biology isn't gender. And because of that there is no difference between men and women in any way. Also: males and females are capable of the exact same things always, there is variation all over the place. Males and females are really the same exactly except that all men are rapists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 01:14 PM |
| 3 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingThat is gaslighting. Kanga dismisses the other person's argument completely, with the argument. I have never heard anyone say anything like "Masculinity is not attractive and girls don’t like it." This is a really weak anecdotal argument. Sorta like, "I've never seen a gay man actually have sex with another man, so men must not really have sex with each other." Can you list any examples of movies or TV shows that encapsulate an "anti-masculine" message? Look at these titles alone: John Tucker Mu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 01:08 PM |
| 3 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingWhy can't we all just accept that everybody is different and some strategies work for attracting some women and other strategies work for attracting other women? Red Pill philosophy talks about different sexual strategies all the time. They talk about the results each strategy gets, and the experiences and lifestyles each entail in large detail. Charts made of upper betas, gammas, deltas, epsilons and all sorts of different classifications. It's potentially even more radical than the discovery t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/14 12:43 PM |
| 1 | Why do I keep hearing this same rhetoric from blue pillers?Mark Manson is posted on TRP all the time. Dr. Nerdlove has said some pretty rapey stuff in his posts that is on the same level as some of the most misogynist PUAs. I have hope for r/letsgetlaid, but so far it seems the majority of the male demographic are musicians, djs, or deal drugs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/14 10:41 PM |
| -1 | Why do I keep hearing this same rhetoric from blue pillers?The part where blue pill women admit to sleeping with red pill alphas. All it proves is that sometimes assholes get laid. Thank you for affirming red pillers get laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/14 10:38 PM |
| 0 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingHow does this excuse having children take poison? I know TBP has no morals, but this is a bit much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/14 10:29 PM |
| 1 | Concise Advice From A Heterosexual Woman on Attracting WomenDon't push. If not I, then whom? If not now, then when? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/14 09:36 PM |
| 9 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingSo if a child was told to drink poison. Could we just blame the child for taking bad advice? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/14 09:24 PM |
| 6 | The Blue Pill & GaslightingWhy does I would never date someone who wasn't kind, and I know lots of nice, empathetic, kind men who are in happy relationships. Seem to me to be a "Well DUH!!" attitude that the OP was complaining about? I wonder. Oh well, good thing we can talk about how TRP hates women and gaslight the OP by talking about sexual strategy instead of the actual question. See OP. kangajoe's response isn't an amazing example of the sort of Blue Pill gaslighting you were talking about at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/14 09:21 PM |
| 3 | Does TRP truly believe that "women are like children"?Pretty much. One of the challenges for a lot of dudes is realizing that there's no reason to take rejection seriously. This is where a lot of the "bad negging" behaviour comes from, a dude taking a rejection or perceived rejection too seriously lashes out and says something completely inappropriate because his ego feels like it's dying. But let's get serious. It goes beyond that. Adult and child are just conceptual, and while there are legal definitions of both, an adult and a child are capable … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/14 07:24 AM |
| -2 | Does TRP truly believe that "women are like children"?Treating women like children works. Because there's a lot more women looking for a man to take care of her. Rather than looking for a man to take care of. Yes, perhaps there are all sorts of TBPers who will chime in about supporting deadbeat men, or their shitty exes that used them for money. Yes, I can agree that you were with men you were taking care of. But please, do not tell me that you were looking for a relationship like that. Treating everyone like children is in actuality not a bad way … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/14 03:05 AM |
| 1 | Why doesn't TRP talk about employment? And why is it so preoccupied with value anyway?Because TBP, SRS, and the feminists are out in full force and have no problem doxxxing a member of TRP. Personal information is hazardous, and pretty much every TRPer has to put some amount of lying into the information he's saying so that he can have plausible deniability should the authorities clamp down. There are countries in which the views of TRP are illegal, and which they could face imprisonment or death for holding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/14 02:55 AM |
| 2 | Possibility of redpill BluepillersBeing confident and assertive is not being a jerk or an asshole. I had a really tough time understanding this growing up. I was actively taught by my parents growing up that there were no difference between the two. Definitely am a lot better at this now, and RP thinking and philosophy was what allowed me to understand this. One thing that confuses me about RPers is what seems to be this belief that if you act anyway contrary to the exalted, pedestaled treatment of women you previously thought w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/14 01:35 PM |
| 0 | How does TRP explain the success of "the Latin lover" type?I actually had a latin lover explain his system to me. It was based on personal responsibility, expressing desire, and being a masculine man. TRP calls this a natural alpha. TRP dark triad theory and seduction is one of many sexual strategies. I think it's not really the greatest of strategies, but it has a certain level of efficiency that can help some men. TRP's contempt for women stems from the initial bitterness that comes from taking the pill. As a person advances in understanding the red p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/14 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Fucking Junkies! I can't stand it when women are attracted to fucking junkies!If he's getting called over to clean up my mess, he's not red pilling enough. I've no sympathy for a dude who lets himself be someone else's bitch willingly. | /r/TheRedPill | 02/03/14 07:40 AM |
| 17 | Fucking Junkies! I can't stand it when women are attracted to fucking junkies!I once knew a man who publicly lapped up a friend's urine from a dog dish in return for drugs. If he can do that for drugs. What will you do for your goals? | /r/TheRedPill | 01/03/14 12:54 AM |
| 33 | Fucking Junkies! I can't stand it when women are attracted to fucking junkies!As a previous junkie myself, let me tell you that the life of a junkie is a lot more exciting than that of an office drone. Why do women hook up with junkies? Because there's so many dudes that are that much less exciting. There's a certain romance in the addiction, a lust for death. It'll kill you. Sure. But mebbe not tonight. | /r/TheRedPill | 01/03/14 12:52 AM |
| 2 | "Second option bias" and /r/TheRedPill?Section option bias seems to be an incredibly oversimplified interpretation of someone's oversimplified reaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/14 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Dan Savage's advice to a lonely young guy...For some people, part of the process of learning to love yourself actually requires them actually put themselves in romantic relationships with other human beings so they can even understand this. You cannot understand who YOU are by yourself alone. It is only through experience and self-reflection that one comes to understand who they truly are. You learn about who you are by learning what you are not. Being in a romantic relationship is a personal learning experience for both parties. While ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/14 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Game as numbers gameI'm not deriding him. I'm just saying, those lines are still a routine. A lot of people have a problem with "routines" without realizing, this is actually how most routines go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/14 06:31 PM |
| 0 | Game as numbers gameNo. He details the exact routine. After this part here 90% of the approaches went exactly like this: He gives his script. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/14 09:12 AM |
| 1 | What would you want your love life to be like if you were somehow desired, unconditionally, by every single person you desired?Honestly. I would stand on a busy city street corner, and look for interesting women. When I found one that caught my interest, I would flirt with her, and take her on an adventure. We'd end up fucking quickly, and based on chemical and sexual attraction, we'd see if we wanted to pursue any further. I would repeat this for every girl who caught my interest. Travelling from place to place in a semi-transient partying existence while focusing on self-improvement and playing around with life. I wou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/14 09:00 AM |
| 1 | What does it mean to "pump and dump" a slut?Growing up my dad would refer to it as the "Wham, bam, thank you ma'am". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/14 08:44 AM |
| 8 | Dan Savage's advice to a lonely young guy...Doesn't mean its necessarily a justified belief. That is correct. Following the teachings of TRP will allow him to destroy those beliefs and allow him to go from being alone to spinning multiple plates. TRP helps a dude figure out how to have the sort of relationships he wants in a healthy framework. Still haven't righted myself but I'm getting there. That's what TRP is there for, helping people right themselves in their relationships with women. Gotta learn to be happy on your own first. TRP he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/14 08:37 AM |
| 1 | TRP: What are YOUR social circles (work, acquaintances, friends) like, where you GET "bombarded" by your side?Party people, and people I meet on the streets, in malls, or wherever from doing pick-up. I don't keep close friends with many people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/14 02:33 AM |
| 1 | What if someone is internally identical to an Alpha, but has zero interest in leadership or power over dependant submissives? Are they Alpha? Are they Beta? Are they something else?No one knows. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/14 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Women Needing Men, Men Needing WomenHate is an emotion. Hating women is the expression of the emotion of hatred for women. Do you feel that hate should never be expressed ever? What about hatred of racists, or hatred of pedophiles? Or hatred of mosquitos? If you do not allow a person to express their hate, you are removing their ability to express part of their emotional experience to the world. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY MEN CANNOT EXPRESS THEIR EMOTIONS TO THE WORLD? THAT IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF THAT SHAME MEN AND KEEP THEM LOCKED… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/14 07:54 AM |
| 7 | Women Needing Men, Men Needing WomenHave you ever considered that gender roles prevent men from actually ever bitching, and that TRP is one of the first places they can go to express their emotions? Oh right. How dare those men express emotion! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/14 04:24 AM |
| 6 | What if someone is internally identical to an Alpha, but has zero interest in leadership or power over dependant submissives? Are they Alpha? Are they Beta? Are they something else?That would be a sigma male. http://alphagameplan.blogspot.ca/2011/03/socio-sexual-hierarchy.html | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/14 06:54 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill and honesty and some "BP" adviceThis is very Red Pill advice to be honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/14 12:07 AM |
| 3 | I want to sleep with physically attractive women. A lot of them. If TRP is 'the wrong' way to think TBP, what is your solution?There is no other answer than TRP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/14 12:05 AM |
| 2 | What does your side get wrong?They enable it through their attitudes. By attacking the dispossessed, they silence the views of the men who are suffering, and contribute towards an environment which empowers white feminism to oppress minorities. TBP has to do more to prevent men who are in desperate positions (the majority of which are minorities) from being harmed from their rhetoric. A black man being shamed for being a virgin white neckbeard with fedora is hugely problematic, and there is nothing stopping someone on TBP fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/14 07:05 PM |
| 2 | What does your side get wrong?Feminism harms minority men by taking away many of the opportunities that were available to them. This was part of white liberal elitists plans to pull the ladder up on minorities. Without jobs, minorities had to more often turn to criminal means to survive, and white elitists on both sides began pumping up the prison industrial complex. It is in this prison industrial complex that we can see slavery still exists for the minority men in America. White feminism contributed to enabling conditions … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/14 07:00 PM |
| -1 | This sub is great.Women are the majority of people who use hospitals and require nurses. Men just die, because they are disposable in this society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/14 06:56 PM |
| 2 | What does your side get wrong?I feel like TRP doesn't understand the amount of White Supremacy and Racism that TBP is responsible for enabling. The stances that TBP is continually enabling are for the benefit of white women, who continue to allow high numbers of ethnic prison arrests, deny ethnic minority men jobs, and destroy the ability for minorities to form families. It's unfortunate that so many TBPers are against racism, but end up playing into Big Feminism's racism. When TRP can understand that #solidarityisforwhitewo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/14 06:45 PM |
| 0 | This sub is great.And majority of what is done in those social fields of work is also aimed at dealing with women's problems. Men whom have gone to prison, or become homeless lose their maleness. When women take care of men who are not their own children, they resent them because they feel as though they are mothering them. They feel these men are not real men, and victimize them further. We can see this from the alarming rates of abuse in male only facilities by female staff. http://www.propublica.org/article/bo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/14 06:40 PM |
| -2 | This sub is great.And majority of what is done in those social fields of work is aimed at dealing with women's problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/14 06:34 PM |
| 2 | Proof that "if you're 'friends' with a girl you can't date you can get with her other friends" is a lie!No it's absolutely true. Here's the problem, for it to work, the following must be true: 1) The girl who is becoming your friend actually has to believe you're a sexual person. As in you're already fucking women. 2) The only reason this girl who is becoming a friend isn't fucking you herself is because she's married/in a committed relationship already. If you've been an orbiter to a girl for two years, nope. She is not a friend. She doesn't think you're sexual, and when she was single she didn't… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/01/14 04:58 PM |
| -4 | This sub is great.show women are just as, if not more empathetic than men. Yeah. But who is that empathy being directed to? Certainly not homeless men, or the male prison population. That empathy is being directed at other (mostly white) females at the expense of men of all ethnicities. This empathy gap privileges women to create laws to protect themselves while making men more and more disposable, while allowing white women to perpetuate racism towards ethnic males. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/14 04:37 PM |
| 2 | What government policy would be the most friendly towards your ideology?Ron Paul 2008 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/14 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Is being a male sexual sub something that could work with Red Pill?The part of it that aims at seducing women en masse anyway. The part of it that's focused on monogamy and marriage are also kind of what women want, but really focused on a very small subset of "good" women who are actually looking for the same thing. Then there's the part of it that's MGTOW trending towards ghost that doesn't really care about what women want, and just want to be themselves without really giving a shit about what women want. There's all sorts of subsections of these. It's a div… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/14 04:12 PM |
| 2 | TRP: My Humble Outward Facing PositionI feel like this actually takes care of a lot of the problems with RP theory. Really awesome job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/14 04:08 PM |
| 2 | TRP: My Humble Outward Facing PositionLanguage is by which a message is transmitted. If the language is removed from referencing the gender from the equation, and instead focused on the biology, it is no longer a sexist message. A message without sexism cannot be a sexist message even if the message comes from a sexist. The message must be judged for what it is communicated, not whom it is communicated by. A person cannot be reduced to an object by passive language. A person is always a person. There is no person as an object. A per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/14 04:01 PM |
| 2 | Is being a male sexual sub something that could work with Red Pill?From what I understand, one of the problems subs in F/m relationships have to deal with is the fact there are a limited number of women, and those women are being mobbed by a massive amount of men. Because of this, the male sub knows how easily replaced he is. To be the sub in an F/m relationship, and still apply Red Pill theory, you would essentially have to be a male sub, of which other Dommes were all desiring. So, if there is a submissive man, who has a ton of Dommes going after him, Red Pil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/14 03:52 PM |
| 1 | If TRP isn't true, Blue Pillers, explain what is happening. How are terpers able to increase their SMV?I'd love to play devil's advocate, but yeah, he seems pretty terrible. I've seen people who use TRP to prevent themselves from getting laid as well. The problem isn't really the material so much as it is a the rage that comes from when we end up confronting our own biases. Some people have problems, and they'll use anything to justify their inabilities to So do a lot of people. Go on /r/askmen, /r/askrelationships, or any other subreddit of relevancy and you'll find this exact same advice. Yeah,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/14 06:21 AM |
| 1 | Are certain behaviors woman-specific?Yes. Societal influences can effect a biological cycle This does not mean that the cycle is societally constructed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/14 06:05 AM |
| 1 | Are certain behaviors woman-specific?So you're telling me that menstruation is cultural, and the only thing that is stopping a man from menstruation is a social influence? No. Stop. I mean, for goodness's sake, women didn't hit menarch until 17 a century and a half ago. Biological males will never have menarche. There is no male equivalent. This is a female only thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/14 05:15 AM |
| 1 | Are certain behaviors woman-specific?We're talking about biological sex. Not gender. A woman's cycle follows a cycle which is releases different chemicals at different times, and works differently than the male cycle for this. This is a biological sex difference. Males and females have different cycles. Males have variations within their cycles. Females have variations within their cycles. But this does not mean that everyone has the same cycle despite variations. Cycles are based on the physiology of the person. There is at no poi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/14 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Are certain behaviors woman-specific?Absolutely. But as you mention there are differences between how those cycles function. There are differences and those tendencies have a specific cycle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/14 05:58 PM |
| 1 | If TRP isn't true, Blue Pillers, explain what is happening. How are terpers able to increase their SMV?Is false. What sets TRP ideology apart from the many other providers of this message is their polarizing, regressive social theories. The ideology and atmosphere of that subreddit propagate the exact type of mentality that turned Douche into such a terrible person. No. He's not a terrible person. He's not killing people. He's not raping people. He's not stealing from anyone. He's offending people. He's a human being, that is communicating himself and expressing who he is. It is only an anecdotal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/14 05:56 PM |
| 0 | I am a woman.Why do you have a problem with the emotional expression of men? Are emotional men that offensive to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/14 02:20 PM |
| 1 | If TRP isn't true, Blue Pillers, explain what is happening. How are terpers able to increase their SMV?Yeah. Except sorry, you're absolutely wrong. It is news for some people. The average person does not understand that game or pick-up requires you to be rejected by a lot of girls. A person who is actually using pick-up in the proscribed manner will be approaching an average of 50-200 girls in a week. Out of those there may only be about 1 to 3 girls will actually be into you. What TRP teaches is that instead of expecting your game to work on every woman, instead think of it as being a slot machi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/14 02:16 PM |
| 2 | I am a woman.Red Pillers love women. Hate is an emotion. TRP doesn't have a problem with you, even though you have a problem with TRP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/14 03:44 AM |
| 1 | Are certain behaviors woman-specific?Having a time of the month, and all that comes with it. Periods suck. There's all sorts of different hormones that come with it, and women experience a cycle of different chemicals being released in their body as they go through this. During certain times of the month, women may tend towards different sorts of behaviours based on how their cycle is behaving. At certain points of the month women are hornier than the rest of the month. This corresponds to when we believe that the human female unde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/14 03:11 AM |
| 8 | I am a woman.You have been misinformed. Red Pillers love women. <3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/14 02:51 AM |
| 2 | If TRP isn't true, Blue Pillers, explain what is happening. How are terpers able to increase their SMV?he missed the bigger picture; he was actively chasing off more women than he was attracting. Ugh. That's kind of the point in understanding seduction. There will always be more women who aren't into you than there will be women into you. The big picture isn't worrying about all of the failures, but enjoying the moments of success that make the failures worth it. What we differ on is what we value. The Red Pill man realizes that he must always take risk if he wishes for the reward. When the red p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/14 02:30 AM |
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