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Thank you for keeping it real with me Trad Bike. Also, women need to get over men’s preferences and get a life without men in it. Yes, and all these crybaby fellas out there always bitching and bemoaning their lives of masturbation, loneliness and vidya games should also follow the premise of your advice and just accept their solitary lives. Relationships are almost always stupid and miserable anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:07 AM
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"as someone who watches their weight I don't want to date a woman who is overweight" Oh, shit.. saying that out loud is always going to bring FEMALE FURY. (particularly from the chonkers... really, mostly from the chonkers...and, the total gender is mostly chonkers).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:02 PM
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The true reality is society and women just love to find any reason to hate on men. The response to all the angry old gals in this thread being angry old gals. Any man of any age is ALWAYS going to want a skinny and beautiful 20 year old woman. That's the way it is and will always be whether the angry gals like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:59 PM
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Rollo is the shit. Yeah, I've been into this shit for a long time. I used to be really into it. But, I learned the lessons I need, and like I was saying...it's pretty simple. It doesn't need as much explication as it gets. I've read his blog and listened to some audiobooks. I've seen him interviewed. I'm unimpressed with him. I'm not into the lengthy and generally unnecessary analysis. You should write an audible. There's really not much to say if the topic is picking up women. First and foremos…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:05 PM
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Yeah Rollo Tomassi said talking about the game isn’t game. He's a grifter you'd be best off ignoring. Perhaps the best example of someone over complicating RP to make a buck. We don't need all the books and audible and irrelevant bullshit that he provides. The basic principles are simple. The basic principles are all you need. You can read that information in under ten minutes. You don't need anything more than that. We don't need some middle-age d-bag with his cute little ski cap and on-so-manl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:59 PM
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I know 100% your reply will be laced with virtue signalling for the sisterhood which again is irionic cuz those women hate you even more than I do. Very true. That's what these d-bags don't realize. They reject the same knowledge that would explain their idiocy to them. Red pill gained momentum because it worked. End of story. If it didn't work, it wouldn't have gained momentum and sustained it. The reason why it works is because the basic principles are simple and true. There are a lot of bulls…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:55 PM
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Why would they "obviously" need to justify their standards? How does that look like? Who decides if the standards are correct or not? Now we're just getting cute. Crit Corner's forthcoming reply: How is this getting cute. I'm just saying that if they obviously were how the justifying the standards like how does that look and what's the ethical basis I'm not saying that it is directed at the standard. I already clearly answered those questions, but if a Crit Corner doesn't want the answer, then a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:57 PM
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Personal remarks aren't encouraged here. Then perhaps you shouldn't make them: To me, it's childish to expect someone to fold their desires to your world view. You're now proceeding: why would it be normal to believe people have to "earn" their standards or justify them? It's not really a question of belief. It's just how human life works. Yes, people obviously do need to "earn" or "justify" their standards. A person doesn't have to "justify" as in going into the public square and making a speec…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:21 PM
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Whatever you say, Crit Corn. I didn't realize we were discussing a world view. I thought I was discussing some weird view about cohesive something or other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:50 PM
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Keep on rocking in the free world, Mrs. Seng.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:48 PM
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Mars and Venus. It's hilarious. And, to find a sense of humor over such a banal thing sad is something that I find weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:08 PM
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Do you genuinely think it's a big ask to live in a home that is well styled? I don't. I found it funny because "a home that has a cohesive design style" is just an alien concept to most men. Yes, I know here come the outlier examples blah blah blah. It's all so predictable. But, let's not bullshit each other. Most men don't enter a house and think, "Wonderful and cohesive design style in this home!" Come on. Let's keep it real here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:00 PM
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Okay, you've got it made in respect to choosing a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:57 PM
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I feel like these are very basic things to want. LOL! Medical Sense writes a full essay of requirements up to and including " willing to live in a home that has a cohesive design style." LOL! And, JFizz chimes in that "I feel like these are very basic things to want." LOL! You can't make this stuff up! Home with a cohesive design style! You gave me such a good laugh this morning! THANK YOU!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:45 PM
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I'm pretty, slim, great ass, Whose assessment? That is the trifecta right there (particularly in the USA given the obesity epidemic among USA women where it is highly unusual to encounter a slim woman: let alone the pretty and great ass part!), and if all that actually does apply to you...then you could have any requirements you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:42 PM
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I don’t think my standards are “high” ... Looks do matter but most of my requirements are non-physical. at least 6 inches taller than me LOL LOL LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:38 PM
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What an absolutely strange thing to say! What an absolutely childish point of view!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:36 PM
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Maybe you should have just posted a comment rather than responding to me. It sounds like you're addressing this subreddit writ large and directing the passage at me: Women come here daily and practically beg you guys to hear what they want but you're so GD insecure and arrogant that you have the nerve to tell them they're wrong and then insult them even more by trying to explain to them what they really want instead. It's like WTF guys?! Because, it is I who doesn't know WTF YOU are talking abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:31 PM
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People just never want to accept this truth that's constantly in front of their faces everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 04:07 AM
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Yes, that is the question. And, I think we know the answer already.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:41 AM
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I’d say I was ugly before that point because people would refuse to sit next to me on public transport during rush hour. Honestly, no gaslighting or any bullshit on my part...I wonder if you're underestimating yourself. A lot of men do. On public transport...I don't know if that's the best gauge of appearance and desirability... I used to ride the subway and it's a weird environment imo. You also say: But after dressing middle class ( I grew up poor ) I have been told that I’m handsome by strang…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:42 AM
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Well, Boring Tile...Saving Private Ryan has a good point with his comment: Tall, white and good looking. And there it is, ladies and gentlemen. You mentioned the autism, homeless, no car, unemployed part. And, you continued to discuss the cold approach that worked with your future wife. By neglecting to mention the tall, lean, white and handsome part...well, you left out some pretty big factors there, my friend. Then it's sort of cute when you say: I thought I was ugly for most of my life. My fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:26 AM
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Handsome men like myself who are successful with women cold approach all the time. So, that contradicts your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:16 AM
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What do you look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:44 AM
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I believe men should NOT cold approach especially if your average to below average. You're right, but you should say it like this: Average and below average men should not cold approach unless it's with rather below average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:41 AM
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How about a male teacher who instead of being a woman doing OF vagina pictures was doing OF penis pictures? Does this still apply: No, I wouldn't have a problem with it. It's part of the tracher's (sic) private life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:47 PM
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you're doing a grandiose act to shame her for her source No, that just makes me a dick. It doesn't make it ad hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:19 AM
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this is just an ad hominem Actually it's not: which makes a double irony here: That your very accusation of irony is, indeed, ironic. That by trying to characterize my remarks as ad hominem, you're the one who's trying to seem intelligent (using concepts you don't understand) while accusing me of the same....hilarious! Ad hominem is an attack against the individual rather than her argument. Unless the individual is an inanimate magazine, you are...eh...I don't want to call you an idiot...so, I'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:04 PM
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psychology today PSYCHOLOGY TODAY! Oh, fuck me... in that case, the debate is over, guys... she referenced PSYCHOLOGY TODAY! It doesn't get any more profound than... PSYCHOLOGY TODAY! Freud, Jung, Skinner, Pinker, Piaget, James, Erikson... FUCK THOSE amateur assholes ... probably a bunch of covert Narcissists... we've got PSYCHOLOGY TODAY ladies! PSYCHOLOGY TODAY!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:07 PM
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If a tall handsome man projects everything on your list above, he will be drowning in pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:03 PM
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Right, but you're not really responding to this particular post. You're making a judgment about PG as a person based upon his Reddit archive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:00 AM
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This is the answer in one sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:16 AM
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a pussy doesn’t desire anything This simply isn't true. Although it doesn't sound nice, when a woman is seriously attracted to a man her pussy gets wet. Her brain isn't consciously saying, "Pussy, I'm telling you to get wet now!" We all already know that. Her pussy is doing its own thing according to its own rules. So are you personifying pussy or dehumanizing women? I'm not doing either. Sexual response isn't demonizing. That you should think so reveals much more about how you view sexuality, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:26 PM
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give me that strange pussy- the pussy that makes my head spin and I go into a daze. That pussy that makes me ponder the secrets of the world. lol. I feel you. I'd say that it's also true that women love mysterious cock attached to the "tall and handsome" archetype.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:21 PM
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Is "pussy" sentient? I wouldn't quite use that term...but, I would say that it has its own dictates which are very often independent of the actual thought process that takes place in the brain. I would definitely say that although I'm well aware that most women don't like that type of statement. Once again, the truth of something does not depend on whether or not women "like" the statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:19 PM
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Right...that's a more polite way to put it! And, you're right: the term for this would be "preselection."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:17 PM
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Yes, that's how it works everywhere all the time. Women are never going to admit this. That doesn't matter. It's still how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:47 AM
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I've always appreciated the brutal honesty of the black pill when it comes to statements like this. I like the unflinching honesty. But, it can also be taken too far. I find a lot of the practitioners to be very self-defeatist and bitter. For instance, most black pill will agree that appearance is 95% of your success with women. I tend to agree with that. But, here's the thing...you can recognize how superficial everything is and still work to improve yourself. I can’t change my appearance. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:14 AM
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Obesity and general slovenliness of the population are large factors in why people are struggling You are correct OP. When I used to participate here and dudes were looking for advice about getting a date or relationship, the first thing I'd tell them is get your appearance on point. That's number one on the list. People don't like to hear that because they think it says something negative about women: that women are superficial. They are. Everyone is: male and female. And, there's nothing wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:02 AM
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it's dumb Yes, it's dumb as hell. Most heterosexual women are attracted to tall, lean, handsome men who have big cocks. And, there's nothing wrong with that. But, almost none of them will just come out and say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:46 PM
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Again, that's just obvious, isn't it? Yes, it is obvious. The basic reality is extremely obvious and sensible. The problem is that women don't like to acknowledge how moved they are by handsomeness and charm. They think it doesn't sound nice to come out and say, "Yes, I want a tall handsome man with a big cock." But, there's nothing wrong with wanting that. It's very natural to want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 04:38 PM
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why should your girlfriend tolerate you masturbating to orgasm (which releases bonding neurochemicals) while looking at nudes and videos of other women? Oh, good lord the way people think these days. Little wonder so many men are opting out of the dating world all together. Now men are demonized for having a wack while looking at a picture! According to this comment, it's actually cheating! As I said, little wonder so many men don't want anything to do with these women. Women are not attracted t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:04 PM
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masturbating to violence lol... so ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:02 PM
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what advice do you suggest? Be masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:59 PM
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Just keep on being you! For 90% of men out there, this is the worst possible advice you could give them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:31 PM
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Toilet stinks? LOL! This tells you a lot about the mind of the person who wrote this intensely weird post! TOILET STINKS! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who the hell does this apply to? TOILET STINKS!!!!!!!!!! As far as they're concerned all women are interchangeable for what they provide to a relationship. Where are all the people who think this? What a weird commentary!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:24 PM
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It means you need to spend time alone working on your mental health Yes, I can relate to that. I've had problems, too, when things get really close. I've come to realize that the problem is me...my thought processes, etc., and what's wrong with me mostly stems from growing up with an angry alcoholic father that I was really scared of...it made me distrustful and scared of being close. You say, "I just felt like I was doing something I shouldn't after a while and it didn't feel right to have a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:44 AM
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It literally just weirded me out. So, I have no grounds to doubt your account, of course, But, what are you really saying? That you can't have a romantic relationship with somebody that is the type of person that you could also be close friends with? That seems strange to me. I don't see how those things are mutually exclusive. I think there was something else that you don't want to say. No, because he really wasn't a bad looking man. Not exactly an ecstatic endorsement! There's a hell of a diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:32 AM
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I don't believe this. If the guy looked like (insert whoever inspires a flood in your basement) it wouldn't have felt like fucking your brother, baby....and, YOU KNOW IT!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:04 AM
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The answer is because there's "nice" personality and there's "tingles" personality. Girls want the latter, at the very least
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:02 AM
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Looks are all that ever matter. It's most of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:47 AM
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Yes, I mostly agree with your comment. This game is not for everyone. If your appearance is right it's all so easy that it can even get boring sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:57 PM
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Covert contracts Guys will be nice and friendly to a girl in an attempt to get her to like him and eventually sleep with him. Which was his underhanded goal. Girls will be "available" to hawt guys in an attempt to get him to like her and eventually commit to her. Which was her underhanded goal. I agree that what you said applies in many---of course, not all---situations. I don't know why you're portraying all of this as "covert." It's really rather overt. Why? Everyone knows men are pretty sexed…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:27 PM
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Yes if you’re attractive you get different treatment. This isn’t news. The difference is when you like someone vs when you don’t. Women like attractive men and women don’t like unattractive men (for dating). It’s that simple. That's basically a pretty good summary. To OP who says, ""Women make different men they date play by different rules" Sure. Yes, of course! Why shouldn't it be that way? Of course women are going to behave differently with the men who get their pussies wet. And, again...why…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:38 PM
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I disagree with that. And, if you consider some aspects of nonverbal communication to be flirting (which is the case), then I very strongly disagree with your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:58 PM
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I get that you're trying to simultaneously juggle the narrative that men and women are the same I'm saying that men and women are the same in the sense that they're human beings and that ontology has many things in common: basic needs, drives, etc. I'm saying that during the every day substance of interaction with the world and society, there certainly tend to be general differences. There are always outliers but we're talking generalities here. I've observed groups of women for many years in so…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:47 PM
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And it doesn’t mean anything is wrong with those guys who don’t get approached. Indeed. It doesn't mean that there's a damn thing wrong with them. The variables in play are generally appearance and bearing. men aren’t all going to receive the same kind of attention from the same kinds of women. Very true!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:28 PM
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In a very strict semantic sense you are correct. But, being semantically correct can also be misleading. By your rationale we could say that imprisoning a person for no reason and feeding him a bowl of oatmeal with roaches in it is treating him like a human because this behavior can only occur in a "human" interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:25 PM
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Okay, that's cool. Perhaps at this point we can just agree that we disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:19 PM
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but those men assume since they don’t get approached, no man does. Yes, very damn true! So many men have a difficult time believing that the hot woman at the gym stares at a PARTICULAR man and will indeed start a conversation with HIM IN PARTICULAR.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:14 PM
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Great gaslighting Exactly. To the OP, I'm not saying your post is necessarily unproductive, but I will say that it'd be more beneficial to ask this question to a few men who are consistently romantically successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:10 PM
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Okay, that's cool. This would probably be a good point to just agree that we disagree about this matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:03 PM
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They know that it's just they hate men so anything that men do that women don't really do (like trying to attract women) is something they'll characterize as wrong in some way. I don't quite follow this. The first "they" that you use is referring to women generally?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:02 PM
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Why not come to the conclusion I treat men like women and disregard men's reality? Correct. In my opinion, you are also doing this. How should women be treated differently to men do you think? There's not a general, one size fits all answer to this. But, generally speaking I'll say that, for me, it's never the same as when I'm interacting with a man. Should I treat women I'm friends with differently to how I treat my male friends? Yes. How about female vs male subordinates? For the most part no.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:00 PM
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Okay, so at this point perhaps we can just agree that we disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:55 PM
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And thus the statement "treat her like a human" is meaningless. Because you don't understand something that someone else does shouldn't lead a person to think that it's therefore meaningless. I understand what's meant by the statement in question. And, by the way, the question was: what does just treat them like humans mean? This statement posed as a question is comprehensible to many people. And, many people, like myself, consider it to be very good advice that can stop people from overthinking…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:45 PM
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My idea of “treating women like humans” is holding off on flirting with them until you figure out whether you actually like them. Life is supposed to be fun, dude. Have some fun. Stop overthinking everything. A woman seems interesting to you? Flirt a little bit. Live a little. Stop writing a dissertation in your mind before you say, "Hello."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:41 PM
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Stop being so confused. You said this: I am friends with men and women and approach my interactions with them the same way. How are you imagining I treat women that "disregards her reality as a woman"? Because, you said this: I am friends with men and women and approach my interactions with them the same way. In case you still haven't gotten it and are still confused, you said this: I am friends with men and women and approach my interactions with them the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:39 PM
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I treat everyone equally That means that you treat men and women the same is how I took it. You just said: I am friends with men and women and approach my interactions with them the same way. Again, I'd argue that this does NOT constitute treating a woman like a human. A woman is not a man. Treating her in the same manner you treat a man disregards her reality as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:34 PM
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That very act of flirting and making your intentions known so it is a romantic courtship and not a nonromantic platonic friendship is often characterized as "not treating her like a human" framing That's part of the problem. Sexuality is part of normal human behavior. I'd argue that for a heterosexual man to treat a woman the same way he interacts with another heterosexual man is NOT treating a woman like a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:32 PM
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I treat everyone equally and I think that's a big part of why I failed in dating. Treating a woman like a human doesn't mean that you treat her in the same way you treat a man. That's not treating a woman like a human. Part of her humanity is that she's NOT a man. I don't think the saying in question means treat a woman exactly like you'd treat a man. I think it means more along the lines of forget all the strategy and bullshit and just behave and interact in a way that you would with a woman wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:07 PM
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Unless you make your intentions known and how to flirt, you’ll have no success with women That's not incompatible with treating women like humans. I'd actually argue that if you're sensing a woman has some attraction to you, then flirting and making your intentions known is part of treating a woman like a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:04 PM
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I have been trying to understand what is being conveyed with this advice exactly. Well, first I'll assert that it's excellent advice for a man who's trying to advance things with a woman he's attracted to. As to your interest in what's being conveyed with the advice...a few things are being conveyed. The first is to get yourself out of the mindset that you're dealing with some mysterious and elusive creature who's completely foreign to you. You're just dealing with another person... So, stop bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:56 PM
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but it's amazing that even for attractive guys (it was really me and this black dude that was the most attractive in the party, but he didn't talk much), how hard it is. I sort of agree with you a bit but you also said that you weren't being assertive with approaching, etc. Let's face it if you don't approach there probably won't be too much happening in many cases (not all, but many).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 10:13 PM
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Yes, the halo effect is real and there's studies and evidence to support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:18 PM
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A cultural shift where women become the active pursuers of men they find attractive This is how present life actually does work. I don't know why you're presenting it as a hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:56 PM
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The idiocy of this post begins in the very first sentence: To me this is the average man who is above the age of 30: Average height or tall So, let's see here...average height means that a man is either average height or tall. Never mind that "tall" by definition is not average because if it were average it wouldn't be tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:43 PM
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It would be very nice if things actually did work this way. Sorry Womanese, actual reality doesn't work much like this. The one part you got right is confidence. But, you better have the basis to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:58 AM
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If you have ADHD and are bipolar 2, it doesnt necessarily mean that your brain is wired in a way that will prevent you from naturally absorving social skills like with autism. Yes, this is very true. Bipolar can actually be very helpful in social situations.
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 10:25 PM
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I'm actually not neurotypical. I'm OCD and also bipolar 2. That's my bad luck. My luck, as you say, is 6'3", lean, handsome face. I commented because I know how people treat me and I know it's just based upon looks. That's just how it works.
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 06:32 PM
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Great post! This is just so completely reasonable and well-balanced. However, If you were born on such a low end of the genetic spectrum where you are both physically unattractive genetically AND you have high functioning autism or some other dehabilitating neurodiversity, I want you to realise that it is not your fault. It is not your fault that you go through so much pain and embarrassment just to be able to make a friend. It is not your fault that you were bullied your entire life and never l…
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 07:50 AM
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OUCH! Take note, fellas.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:56 AM
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The energy a woman puts into one man when she is attracted AND interested is pretty intense. Very true. A little bit scary sometimes, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:54 AM
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There are zero that I’ve found so far that are attractive as people as whole including personality, values, etc. i scrolled on a friend’s dating app for like 45 minutes the other day and not a single man was attractive in the slightest to me. MAJOR OUCH! love this subreddit. The brutal truth is revealed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:25 AM
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CMV Disagreement You're on the right track, but it's not "smooth talker" that's the variable. That's just a piece of it and not the best way to describe what you're talking about. When you get into the 5% (as you say), what you're really describing is what's called superficial charm, which is often associated with sociopaths. Superficial charm is diabolical and I would argue a trait that almost inevitably leads to unethical behavior because it's just too fucking easy to manipulate people. And, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 06:39 AM
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they say clean shaven means you are a little boy and that females who like clean shaven are pedos My question is... WHERE? Where are they saying this? This is very weird.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 03:49 PM
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I sometimes suspect that all the "this is how a REAL woman looks like" posts by heavier women are made not so much as a affirmation of their humanity, as they are a way to critique current beauty standards that appear as a form gatekeeping that limits their access to conventionally very attractive men cadrio-fit women have. Your suspicion is 100% CORRECT. It really is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:28 AM
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Not overweight with hair = above average You can't make this stuff up!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:26 AM
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You did say that you want him to be 6'3", though. Height is a part of looks. You can't make this stuff up!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:24 AM
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Strange comment. The discussion is sort of dumb because clean shaven or a bit of stubble is the best route to go anyway. But, I've never had a "bluepiller" try to "body shame" me for being clean shaven. Where does this happen?
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 08:00 AM
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Sure...this isn't a great looking dude. But, is he going out of his way to look as bad as he can? Some people might not like that, but here's some things this guy could do to significantly improve. Shave off the Goddamn peach fuzz Invest a few more bucks in getting a decent haircut that doesn't accentuate THAT FOREHEAD. Some skincare for the face Put on a real fucking shirt Start lifting and eating. In particular, start doing some shrugs, overhead press, and neck exercises. Build up the traps an…
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 07:55 AM
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CMV Agreement Do you know how refreshing it would be if women started cutting the bs and just saying the truths from reallife? Yes, OP that would be pretty cool. Your post is accurate. I understand why women aren't forthcoming, though. It would take away their advantage if they just came out and told the truth about the primary importance of appearance, height, face, body type, cock size, money, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 04:54 AM
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CMV Disagreement This theory is weird. What's with all this stage business? A lot of men simply aren't cut out for this game. They need to accept that they just don't have what it takes for pick-up. It's not for everyone! For those who have it going on a bit and are having trouble: there's hope for those guys. Improve your looks and be social. Don't complicate matters with all this stage business.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 04:29 AM
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CMV Agreement Women villainize/gaslight nice guys to avoid admitting what really attracts them Yes, it really is just that simple. And, in many cases, there's just a mass, culturally-transmitted gaslighting: the same idiotic message that you get bombarded with constantly about pErsonaLity, hUmor, cOmpassioN, walks oN the bEach, etc. NEVER: tall, handsome face, big cock, lean body, END OF FUCKING STORY.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:50 PM
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You guys are scary. Here are some of the qualities from your description: Sits straight, calm, smiles, humor, polite, confident, eye contact, keeps phone away. You didn't set some impossible bar. This is very doable. I think YOU are the ones that are "so far gone."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:31 PM
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Of course men claim they’ve been misled, they take zero ownership of their one-sided fantasies. And since men externalize all their feelings towards women, they blame women. Yes, I do think that something not discussed enough is the "romanticism" of many men (for lack of a better term). This is a much neglected topic. But, there certainly are a lot of men who are very invested in a fantasy of how they want women to be: creating this very comforting and idealized female ontology, so to speak. To …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:12 AM
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You don't even have to do the self-improve for 2 years bit. Plenty of men are naturally like that description. People acting like you set some impossible bar there. You just sketched out standard masculine behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:04 AM
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you just made him unrealistically perfect. I don't think OP did that. I think his portrayal is very realistic. There are definitely quite a few men who behave that way. There's nothing about that behavior that is particularly unachievable. He's really just describing baseline masculinity. Also, I think OP is correct. The whole alpha beta conversations always conjure up the same weird stereotypes. I mostly agree with his description of an alpha male. I don't particularly like the term "alpha" but…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:59 AM
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Your comment sounds almost like a soliloquy in a play. To respond, though, you are correct about reality often contradicting the gaslighting...I think it might be that men WANT to believe the gaslighting. It's a more optimistic outlook than reality. This sort of gets into the whole "blue pill" conversation now. There's a lot of commentary about that elsewhere. Even if reality contradicts it, there are a lot of men who seem to believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:36 AM
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Your outlook is logical, but women fuck-up this equation because of hypergamy. On top of that...the real problem...some happening dude will one-night stand the average gal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:27 AM
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I get your point but you looked past mine. Everybody ALREADY KNOWS that men want 10/10 models. Everybody already knows that men are cuckoo for a beautiful blonde with big tits. It's understood. You tell somebody that guys want to fuck beautiful blondes with big tits, and it's like a NO DUH moment. We're raised, though, with every message counteracting the corollary obvious reality: that women want to fuck tall, good-looking men with big dicks. That's where you get into the Gaslighting Industrial…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:48 AM
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So yeah, guys thought good behavior was enough to attract women, because we were told that. This is what creates the disillusionment and bitterness. This is the root of why so many men are pissed and bitter. They were indoctrinated to think that women were sexually attracted to qualities that simply aren't sexually exciting. And, men are raised being gaslit with this bullshit. And, you end up with a generation of adult men who sometimes figure it out and then are mad as hell. Why shouldn't women…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:46 PM
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In this case if I comply with his request, it is in fact a loss of my control, which is scary. OMG! Woody Allen rides again.
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/23 06:35 PM
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Should I listen to his request YES! 100%. Don't overthink this. Men need women for advice with fashion and haircuts.
/r/RedPillWomen18/07/23 06:34 PM
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It's true. People don't like this being pointed out...but, doesn't matter, it's true.
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 06:18 PM
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Also, I wonder if all this fixation on online misogyny comes from their being terminally online, too? I mean, if they spend all day in an environment where mean words are the biggest threat that they'll face, their perception of reality is shifted somewhat, and real-world DV, for example, kind of takes a back seat in their minds. There's definitely some of this going on. And, a single voice can seem a lot more prevalent that it is out in reality.
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 06:17 PM
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It just so happens, that none of their superpowers designed to help them survive apparently seems to function properly when it comes to good looking men. lol...so true. In a way, though, the superpower designed to "help them survive" is getting wet for good looking men.
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 06:06 PM
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Take a look at my comment history you idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:15 PM
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Seems to me that you don't know what you think about women. In your previous comment, same thread, you say this: The overall effect of constantly painting men approaching them as committing the most heinous of crimes is that they're hurting their own chances of being approached by an actually decent guy, since those are more likely to listen to what women want, and oblige. Now, you're saying, "Hey guys...just talk to some gals! It'll be okay." So, before calling anyone a loser, at least have a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:28 AM
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Hopefully she ages terribly and dies alone She already is aging terribly. By world standards, she's terribly average. Only in the USA is she anything special.
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 06:14 PM
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CMV Agreement I'm presuming your example is for relationships and not hook-ups. Hook-ups, of course, looks are everything. For relationships: Yes, I get your general point. And, you're onto something there. As I'm sure you'd acknowledge, there are exceptions. But, I think your general argument is generally correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 04:51 AM
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unsolicited Hi Baste, you're presently on the Reddit website.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:09 AM
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This is pretty easy to diagnose. First, what's with all this hand-holding bullshit? Your problem is you're not aggressive enough. You need to be aggressive right out of the gate immediately. You need to act like you've got a dick in your pants. These women are rejecting you because they're concluding you're some hand-holding pussy. Take your very first date in the coffee shop. Soon as she shows up, that's when you kiss her. Find out right away. If she doesn't want to kiss you then, she ain't nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:42 PM
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Wow. Good grief. People shouldn't be talking negatively about anyone's appearance at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:18 PM
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Therefore, it would make more sense if a guy focuses more on improving his financial and his overall health FIRST and then if he is in the "top tier" category, his options would be more "open" and the ladies that was hesitant to approach might start shooting their shot, whether it is through choosing signals or even better, direct approach. Although expressed in a different way, what you said above would fit into general Red Pill thinking just fine. Looks, money, status.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:50 PM
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That sounds like a shitty environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:47 PM
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I don't know what your comment means. I was addressing your comment where you're saying that a person's value is determined by the attention they receive. I'm telling you that attention means nothing. Because, trust me, it really does mean nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:47 PM
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deprioritise helping other women That's what you call the lipstick on the pig. You have a spiteful woman who's jealous that she lost this decent man who's now involved with a good woman and becoming a dad. And, the spiteful bitch wants to shit on his happy life. Oh, sorry....didn't mean to deprioritise helping other women. Wonder what Sarah's doing for starving women in Africa...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:43 PM
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Get a life
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:40 PM
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he has a right to decide who he dates This is what's amazing the shit out of me...what they're arguing is that he DOES NOT have a right to decide who he dates. There really is no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:11 PM
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spiteful
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:09 PM
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someone who doesn’t try to control her professional and private life for the sake of his own insecurity. Oh, good grief. This again. It just never ends. "...his own insecurity." It just never ends. The guy is a free American adult man. He can bail on a relationship any time he wants for any reason. He's allowed both legally and morally to give an ultimatum. So is she. This is how FREEDOM works. A lot of people here don't like the idea of a man being free to choose if he's involved with a particu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:05 PM
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Like I’ve heard the things men have said about coworkers of mine and it’s absolutely foul. Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:00 PM
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If a woman is getting attention Attention means NOTHING. Believe me...absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:55 PM
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Getting casual sex as a woman means little to nothing. Exactly. That's where a lot of women go wrong in thinking that casual sex means everything. A better guage as a woman is the highest attractiveness level of the people you can consistently get to take you seriously for a LTR. Again, correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:54 PM
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That begs the question how does one exude confidence when life isn’t going their way and they don’t have much to be confident about? You don't. In order to be manipulative like that, you've got to have it already going on somewhat. In my opinion and experience, you've got to at least LOOK the part...if you look the part and have some superficial charm and other unsavory characteristics, then you may in a sense be being yourself but who you really are is a guy who's always playing a role and tric…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:58 AM
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He should be able to be nice and have that work for him. I don't buy into all this "negging" stuff. I'm not saying that it doesn't ever work, it's just that I don't think it's necessary. I don't think it's necessary to have any of the "bad boy" stuff to get women. I'm not saying that doesn't work, I just don't think it's necessary. I think what's necessary is looks and the cliche of "confidence", but I think people use that term wrong because they make it out like it's an "act" or a persona that…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:26 AM
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but I feel it's more the case that the guys exhibiting these traits are typically better looking and more desirable; if some short pudgy guy with buckteeth fronted with the same bravado, made the same brash comments as a don juan, would that really work in his favor? It would not. All you'd have is a little pudgy d-bag acting inappropriately confident. It's not a magic trick. You need to present a congruent front and most of that is how you look...if you look the part, the behavior comes natural…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:16 AM
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GUY A - Happiness has got shit to do with a 6 figure career. Having a beautiful fucking woman in love with you, I'll take that in this lifetime and any lifetime to come over anything that can be bought.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:22 AM
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Yes, this probably does apply to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:19 AM
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CMV Disagreement You're saying it's not that bad. I'm saying cold approach is one of the most fun activities that exists. I do it all the time. Everywhere. Without even thinking about it. It's just what I do. I can't not do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:12 AM
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Yes, that is tall for a woman womandatory. I WISH I would encounter women over 6'. Almost never.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:54 AM
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I agree and this where l actually developed my Game in speaking and getting hot women This is true for me. I had women before, of course. But, as a bartender in my early twenties is where I took "game" way the fuck to the next level. It's the best environment to just figure it out as you're behind the bar. A LOT OF FUCKING BACK THEN! Cocktail waitresses and "customers." I pounded so many of the cocktails girls who worked with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:03 AM
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Women never date their looksmatch lol. Go on...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:58 PM
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Yes, I am under my ‘ideal weight’ according to the calculator. I am very tall and fine-boned. Okay, that's very unusual in the USA. What's "very tall"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:56 PM
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Breaking up doesn't excuse him being an asshole. Sure it does. Why is it any of your fucking business to sit back and pontificate about. Mind your own damn business about other people's highly personal text messages. ruin his life Cute attempt to She wants to wiggle her ass around on the Internet, flirt with other men and act like a whore, and he said, "not for me." HERO OF OUR TIME!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:28 PM
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It's crazy with all his boundaries Okay, so break up with him. End of story. It happens all the time. It's happening RIGHT NOW. Why add the Goddamn attempt to ruin his life a few years later on top of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:15 PM
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Thought you said you were tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:39 PM
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That's the funny part! Puppy is making OP's point with her vagina rant. Women of that time period didn't VAGINA RANT! Now every bit of making a point equates to derp derp vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:39 PM
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CMV The average man of that time was PSYCHOLOGICALLY BETTER than this crop of effeminate vidya game pussies. That's just telling it straight in plain language. I could put it more politely, but it wouldn't be as honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:37 PM
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Outliers
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:34 PM
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How tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:34 PM
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Nothing would happen. Something would change Icy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:33 PM
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I just did mine at 39m 5'9". What ranged did it give you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:29 PM
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The women who chose to interact with men who have far more leverage and be far choosier than they are now. They're plenty fucking choosy right now so that's saying something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:27 PM
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The point of using George wasn't about George. The point of George was to say "all men."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:26 PM
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So what you’re effectively proposing Hello again womandatory. It was posted more as a thought experiment than a proposal. Given most of them men on this sub seem incapable of controlling themselves when it comes to parasocial one-sided sex with themselves while jerking off to porn, OUCH I highly doubt men collectively possess the necessary self control to limit themselves to only dating a tiny percentage of women. Agree, but again, thought experiment. This of course assumes that tiny percentage …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:25 PM
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There is also the whole “you can’t negotiate attraction” aspect. I think that tends to be mostly true. I think initial attraction simply is what the fuck it is...there's just no cerebral way around it. But, it seems in some cases that after spending time with a particular person attraction can naturally develop. Shouldn’t those people be able to date what they are attracted to? Yes, of course. I meant it as a fun thought experiment, but after some reflection I'm thinking that maybe it's not as f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:52 AM
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I am not sure why you called rejecting anybody even slightly overweight eugenics though Yes, I'm not even kidding when I say that it hurt me a little when I read the word "eugenics" mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:48 AM
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the sloppy habits crew are a few jogs away from being dateable Now, that's a great phrase! the genetic mutation congregation are screwed no matter what. Another great phrase. The sloppy habits crew and genetic mutation congregation should have some sort of ice cream social or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:47 AM
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does that mean the 6'2" 400lbs guy would only be willing to have sex with thin hotties? I think they would rather use a vibrator. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:43 AM
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Sounds like there would just be a lot of sexless fat men and women. Yes, that's probably about the summary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:42 AM
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So what would happen if every women realized men are incapable of love OUCH!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:39 AM
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Honestly, one thing that bothers me about this stuff is that I objectively look better when I'm overweight. You're no doubt right. There are always exceptions to these sort of things. For the most part, though, I think that those type of scales get it right for the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:38 AM
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So, Astronaut, that could be a different thought experiment, and it would also be interesting. Some might argue that reality is already a little bit like that for men. A lot of men would say that height is a limiting factor for them in their romantic endeavors.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:36 AM
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I always say "if every man decided that they would only give attention to fit, well-read women then the gyms and libraries would be packed." Yes, I am basically in agreement with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:07 AM
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Okay, you got me...I'm a piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:17 PM
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Me too. The thing is...I don't think this anything to ashamed about. I think it's really quite natural. BUT, it's not flattering, nonetheless, to admit it. It makes a person seem "shallow" and "superficial." And, it contradicts the much more pleasant, popular narrative. Observation of life, though, shows it to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:14 PM
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why don’t I ever get any matches on dating apps? I'd agree with you if you said, instead, "why can't I pick-up women IN REAL LIFE." Face-to-face reality is the metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:54 PM
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All right...you've given me reason to pause and think about this. I wasn't seeing it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:48 PM
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Just to reinforce the absurdity of the OP Ouch. OP is straight unapologetic eugenics. I had it in mind as a thought experiment not a plan of action because, let's face it, this could never happen anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:46 PM
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eventually women will lose weight for access to attractive men I was wondering if somebody would say this. I think it would go down this way also. It would have to. In this case, though, they'd have to lose weight in order to have sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:23 PM
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You're being cute Shizo. Everybody knows that by "healthy weight" she's NOT saying, "I refuse to date a bodybuilder!" Not a single person...not even you...legitimately thought, "How strange that January Philosopher doesn't want to date a bodybuilder!" Everybody knows it's a nice way of saying, "I don't want to be romantically involved with a fat person."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:20 PM
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An increase in lesbian action.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:52 PM
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What about women athletes that while may be above their prescribed weight ranges and still considered healthy if not above average health? Women athletes are something of an outlier but they would clearly be in the healthy weight/desirable category.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:52 PM
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I feel that it's an interesting thought experiment. Concerning your ideas, you're free to---in good faith---post questions that you think are relevant to this subreddit and that will be interesting to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:49 PM
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Ironically, attraction works the opposite way people think it does. We ascribe positive traits to people we find attractive because we want to like them. This is a fine and succinct way to put it. It's them that either confirm or deny our previous assumptions, and only with great effort. I'm not sure what you mean by this. That's why good looking people can get away with fuckshit This is definitely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:34 PM
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The problem is that most men think that they are attractive enough or at least might be, so women tire of the constant approaches. Could you imagine what our society would be like if all men...everybody including those who look like George Costanza...only approached and would date women who were the correct body weight for their height. That would be a fucking trip! I would LOVE to see that become a reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:04 PM
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It doesn't matter how you approach them, what matters is if they find you attractive enough to justify an approach. This is true. That's why it's so comical when all these guys are in their heads about the perfect "pick-up line" and all this bullshit about strategies for "cold approach." Her mind's already made up before you open your mouth. All you have to do is literally just say anything that pops into your mind and she'll carry you from there if she likes what her eyes see.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:56 PM
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I think some fraction of women just get off on the delusion that everyone is attracted to them It's a very big fraction. Very BIG if you know what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:52 PM
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But when they are just living their daily lives, most women don’t want to be approached by most men. This is true. But, where a lot of people go wrong is in saying that women don't want to be approached at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:44 PM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:41 PM
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From a woman's perspective From YOUR perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:40 PM
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CMV Disagreement Oh shit, this again. Women actually want to be approached by a man That's not true. Women---ALL OF THEM---want to be approached by handsome, charming men. That's definitely true. Don't believe anyone who tells you otherwise. They're lying to you because they don't like how reality makes them seem as a person. There ain't a woman alive who doesn't like a tall, handsome charming bastard coming up to her and saying some subtly flirtatious shit. I didn't write the rules. I just repo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:38 PM
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overcoming biological processes in your brain that have been formed over millions of years of evolution is not exactly easy. Well said Master Gene. That's the key. Most people think they're some sort of free, independent agent who lives life on their own terms. Hardly true. The script is running deep in there (your brain, your brain stem...your soul perhaps?), and it's running in there for a reason: not just reproduction but reproductive SUCCESS.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:32 PM
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Women don't test men they're highly interested in. Yes, they do. I promise you your girl isn't '"testing"" michael b jordan if he calls her and takes her on a date. That's just stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:02 PM
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To my surprise, I somewhat agree with your assessment. Mentally ill, sex-crazed nerd girls and ironic, nerd guys. Sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:43 AM
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PURE GOLD!
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 02:56 AM
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Goddamn. Diarrhea? Are you fucking serious? The point was that a person can simply be having a bad day that has nothing to do with you. This seems to be indisputable, but... I send dick picks (blurred) back to the host and his partner. I don't understand what that means. Men who don’t accept no can get fucked. I mostly agree with this. I personally have learned, though, that there can be many other factors involved that have nothing to do with you. I'm not going to pretend like my experience isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:51 AM
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Your advice makes men appear desperate and entitled. Oh, please. There's actual reality and then there's the world according to JN. In ACTUAL REALITY...aka Earth 1...a woman can actually be having a bad day, not be feeling well, worried about someone ill including a sick pet, be suffering from diarrhea, be feeling some anxiety, shyness, have a naturally demure disposition, actually be signaling to the man but he's too much of a blockhead to pick up on, testing the man with her behavior, and a ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:35 PM
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Very well put. And, more than borderline illegal it's enough to harm your general reputation significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:55 PM
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toxic masculinity whatever the fuck that means. It's funny how the Vogue article which blah blah blah toxic masculinity is just pure toxic femininity. Using the expression "toxic masculinity" is a product of toxic femininity. Using the expression "softboi" is the same sicko toxic femininity. Brady leaking and revealing this man's private correspondence is fucking toxic femininity. From the idiotic article: "How a woman dresses is up to her. It doesn’t actually matter what she’s doing." Sure. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:47 PM
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Disagree The one important thing is your attention, so if you see that the woman your paying attention to is not interested, cut it off immediately and move on You can be wrong. It can appear that way when it's not the case. Women can be shy. People can have anxiety which affects their behavior. A person can be preoccupied with some other bullshit that you have no idea about. A woman can be testing you to see if you remain composed: this happens a lot. She can be testing you and not even realize…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:38 PM
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He gave her that ultimatum after she was emotionally invested I agree that it's messy and a bit fucked-up. But, in romantic relationships things almost always do get messy, and at the end of the day, the way things end up is never really "fair." I read the messages, and I didn't see him do any shaming. He broke-up with a woman, and that's always the right of a person in a relationship. You can do that. It happens. It sucks. At some point, most everybody has been rejected. It never feels fair. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:26 PM
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Wrong again Ashoka. I acknowledged that it's about LOVE. I said, "I'm guessing he fell in love with her. And, that changed how he felt about her career." I don't know how you take that to mean "this is about her income." It's about (I'm guessing) he started truly being in love with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:18 PM
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Girls just don't really give a shit if you're handsome Well, your height of 5'11" is good enough if you have a great face. You're not on here saying you're 5'5".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:25 PM
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Nice try Ashoka...oh, once again it's Ashoka...I said that I wasn't an expert in the matter. You aren't quoting the text messages. YOU ARE SCARED TO QUOTE THEM. Why are you scared? Because then you couldn't give your little Feminist spin to them. He couldn't have possibly been more of a polite complete and total pussy in those messages. He should be ashamed of himself for how much of a little wishy-washy d-bag he is in those messages! TOXIC FEMININITY FOREVER!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:21 PM
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He tells her she can't interact with men while surfing. He tells her she can't post pictures in a bathing suit. She was a surf instructor. That's totally wrong once again. He said that if she did those things then she wasn't the right match for him. BIG DIFFERENCE.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:18 PM
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You literally already acknowledged that this is about her income. Is this some gaslighting Ahsoka style? What the heck are you talking about? Please insert the direct quotation. I don't know what you're going on about. I said that he was contributing to her income because you said he was fucking with her income.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:15 PM
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I am genuinely losing my mind. Thanks for stopping by, Mrs. Jenkins!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:36 PM
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Oh, good grief. It's Ahsoka again. He's an asshole for manipulating/insulting her to tank her career, How on earth do you get this kooky interpretation out of the whole thing? Use a direct quotation for your claim. don't fuck with someone's income. Lol. He was a good part of her income. He mentions something about financial support.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:34 PM
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Because, I AM DOUBTING YOU! I am commenting because I think your interpretation is Feminist-fueled nutty-nutty. He didn't do any of the things you say about shaming and trying to hurt her business. That's some Feminist bullshit. He's still allowed in the USA to break-off a relationship with a woman. That hasn't been made illegal yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:31 PM
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Now we have a case of Polly regretting telling the truth. You said: "I guess that’s to say that I see the allure of the 'evil' type"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:00 PM
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What are you going on about? He is an adult man in the USA. He IS STILL ALLOWED BY LAW to choose who he dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:56 PM
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WHAT WHAT? I'm proud to say that I'm no expert of this matter, and I'm not aware of some things you're saying such as He shamed her about her career, her income, for disrespecting him. He actively set out to harm her business because all he cared about was his insecurity. Also unaware of This reminds me of when Jonah Hill lied about the thong and then cut her off when she disagreed as she had every right to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:54 PM
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It seems to me that you are a bit out of the loop with young women and the current dating market, no offense. I still talk to them all the time. "Cold approach" as they say. I don't like that term. It's really just fucking talking to women. Not bullshitting you here: I honestly turn women in the 18-25 age range down. Been there, done that. To me, they're not worth the bullshit and potential risks. So, perhaps I agree with you about the current dating market and/or just on a hormonal level I'm no…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:51 PM
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Maybe he should’ve thought about his “boundaries” before deciding to date her. Yes, this is definitely true. But, real life is almost always fucking messy. I'm GUESSING that he first went for her because he liked how she looked. That was most likely 100% of it. Then, I'm guessing he fell in love with her. And, that changed how he felt about her career. That's permissible. That doesn't make him a no-good, evil misogynistic controlling piece of shit. That makes him human. How people feel about thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:18 PM
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My issue with you is that you claim to be so successful but then somehow get emotional about DT. Either you have some personal problem with terms like DT or Redpill or you rrally arent what you claim to be. All I'm "claiming" is that when I was younger I picked-up a lot of women and was very fucking good at it. Truth is that I'm still surprisingly good at it, though, honestly, I no longer really feel like it's worth it. For many years, I've agreed with the very basic tenets of RP which I conside…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:30 PM
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As OP asks, here's the difference: There's some bullshit involved because any time you go anywhere in public, she will draw a ridiculous amount of male attention and every dude there wants to fuck your girlfriend, and some dudes are bold and will try their approach when you're present (I do this too), and if the woman is the type that needs attention and encourages it (subtly...this will be denied) then the whole thing ends up seeming not fucking worth it. When you're a man with a REALLY HOT gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:53 AM
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all of that sex with hot men is temporary Yes, it really means nothing. Or worse...you know, let's not even get into STDs! But, it leads to nothing of value...nothing of long-lasting meaning. And, in the end, mainly loneliness, bitterness and resentment. I've been there done that. Women would go home with me because they liked how I looked. It lead to absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:30 AM
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I think my best advice is "talk to her like she's anyone else or just a guy." That's shit advice. Give me a break. Yeah, talk to that beautiful woman like you talk to your pal Johnny. That'll work! Good grief. There's no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:25 AM
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this behavior came to light WHAT BEHAVIOR? He broke-up with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:24 AM
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But, what is he guilty of? He broke up with a woman because he decided SHE WASN'T RIGHT FOR HIM... apparently a man's no longer allowed to be the one who breaks up with a woman! GOD HELP US ALL
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:23 AM
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OMG...did this poor guy ever get involved with one fucked-up bitch. Let's not sugarcoat it! That is a fucked-up bitch right there! And, WHY ON EARTH is he providing financial support post-breakup? What the fuck is that all about? You break-up with a girlfriend and there's some sort of alimony? WHAT WHAT? There is no hope for us!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:22 AM
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Jonah Hill isn't guilty of emotional abuse in those messages, but he was an asshole. Jonah Hill, like all men in the USA, isn't allowed to have standards for the women he's involved with...that's the real bottom line.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:15 AM
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Most want a tall man ideally but willing to settle for shorter than her ideal That's just living in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:12 AM
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they will never find commitment and they will have to one day settle down with an average guy. That's the real key. That's not understanding that there is a universe of difference between having a man who will stick his dick in you and having a man who's in love with you and would die for you. Getting a handsome beautiful man to stick his dick in you is not winning. It's nothing. It leads to nothing. Or worse...it leads to bitterness and resentment and loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:10 AM
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If I had said “I don’t find you attractive and you’re too old” to all three, you think that would have been well received? I don't. But, I do think there's a lot of space between something not being well received and being murdered.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:05 AM
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What I'm actually saying is that this has become quite popular to justify shitty things that women do: "women have been murdered for that!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:01 AM
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that’s really bottom of the barrel. C'mon Velvet. What's he supposed to do? Take her to Red Lobster. He already said she was heavy!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:57 AM
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How am i doing that? You're advocating that they incorporate Narcissism, Machiavelli, psychopathy and shitty traits into their personalities. This is bluepill cope. It's not. You don't need to train for 3 years. You just need to get your weight right and put yourself together right in your clothes, appearance and demeanor. How you look and how you act. It's simple. Same as it's always been when it comes to attracting women. It will always be the same. Women will always respond favorably to the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:46 AM
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Maybe she didn’t want you to know where her friend lives due to safety reasons, this is a very real issue for women that men don’t think about Women who are this terrified of men writ large shouldn't go out with men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:29 AM
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maybe op can elaborate how they decided on that specific place. The way these overweight gals in the USA are overvaluing themselves these days has just gotten ABSOLUTELY INSANE. You'd think this guy was going on a date with Zendaya or something the way that you're talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:27 AM
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Well you know very well that women have been murdered for that. This has become to the go-to excuse for women to do fucking anything in social situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:25 AM
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Now you're beginning to seem a bit crazy. That's a fairly elaborate plan to hatch for a Goddamn free lemonade, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:23 AM
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I am just aware To women that means you hate them. You're calling this a "scam." That seems like a strange term to use for this. There's a few possibilities. It could be true. It's probably not. But, it could be. I'm doubtful. But, life is crazy, and it's possible she did have to help her fucked-up friend. She didn't like the looks of you. All of these gals these days...overweight, obese...doesn't matter...they're very picky because things are set-up intentionally to allow that. She might have s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:15 AM
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Somehow I already knew this as soon as I read your OP at the top of the page. I'm not even kidding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:14 AM
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That's so low effort Oh, fucking please. He wasn't meeting fucking Princess Diana. Low effort? Give me a fucking break.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:13 AM
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My argument is that incorporating DT traits into your persona can improve your success with women. You're advocating for incorporating Narcissism and Machiavelli and all this crazy shit. This is in the spirit of all this RP dogshit that I've been seeing online for years now. What a strange and weird and unnecessary thing to advocate. You realize that young dudes can read these ideas you're putting forth? You want to fuck up their heads with this shit? A man can also do fine and have more success…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:08 AM
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Thank you Alexis Olivia for a comment out of nowhere that accomplishes very little.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:55 AM
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YOU are FAT
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:24 AM
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Dark traits are not attractive to most of us. It's just that those guys have more confidence and sometimes charisma, and seem more exciting at a first glance. When it comes to a serious relationship though, most women will prefer a genuinely good guy as her companion and potentially the father of her children. They DON'T WANT a "serious relationship"! Why isn't this understood? They want to fuck as many women as possible and the more beautiful the better. It really is THAT SIMPLE.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:11 AM
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so the characteristics that make him an amazing lover are enough to keep me coming back. If I am ever in a position again that I want a nesting partner, it won’t be him. This bit of refreshing honesty says everything that needs to be said. Lock the thread. Let me translate your comment: This narcissist, piece of shit bad boy fucks the hell out of me and I LOVE IT! I don't want to marry him. But, I sure as hell want his cock! I can't get enough of it! Here's the thing...most of the dipshits on he…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:08 AM
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CMV Disagreement Stay safe and stay toxic 😈. Lol. Love it. Seriously, though...there's a happy medium to be found! You don't have to be evil. You just have to allow yourself to present yourself as a human being. Just being a human being has plenty enough of what you're talking about. Be honest about your lust and ego and sexual desire. That's enough to take you where you want to go with women. You don't have to be a Goddamn serial killer for fuck's sake! You don't need "psychopath game." Just be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:43 AM
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No you wouldn't. You just wouldn't be fat anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:37 AM
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okay then make it 6' to 6'2"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:14 AM
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You're a moron. It's a bad sign when the insults start coming. I can tell by your posts and comments...both what you're saying, but more so what you're NOT saying that you're overvaluing yourself. You still didn't answer about your build and what you weigh.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 11:23 PM
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Lose 40 to 50 pounds and see the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:21 PM
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You don’t need looks to get a foot in the door. You just need a reason to interact with them. What a funny thing to say. Your first statement makes a broad claim. And, the second statement castrates the first. In most cases you don't have a "reason" to interact with them. That's where looks opens the door for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:20 PM
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it's how you make them feel. This is the simple truth that nobody wants to accept. How you look IS DIRECTLY FUCKING CONNECTED to how you make them feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:46 PM
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I’m actually amazed that 2 inches between 5”8 and 5”10 will determine whether 14% or 50% of women will reject you. I’m sure this will be denied and downplayed as not being an issue seeing as that’s tradition here. I was explaining to this dipshit on here today that the difference between 6' and 6'3" is VERY FUCKING SIGNIFICANT.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:45 PM
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Also shows that women are much more narrow in what they like in men, while men were more varied. This is a timeless truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:43 PM
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How much do you weigh?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:36 PM
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Referencing one extremely charismatic outlier is actually evidence to support OP's position.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:35 PM
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Just as I suspected and have been telling you. You're overvaluing yourself.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 09:06 PM
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american wimmin and men are a match made in hell one is an overentitled narc whos brainfried on tiktok, netflix, and generic "you go girl" feminist slogans the other is an effeminate wuss that simps for prostitutes, has deeps psychological issues, and hates most of society for being non-white/liberal/woman/whatever Funny that the one guy here who gets it right is being down voted. Your grammar isn't that great. And, I would have phrased things a little differently. But, your basic, underlying po…
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 09:04 PM
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You're clearly overvaluing yourself. You've dodged yet again talking about your build and weight. You're probably 5'11" skinny fat with a plain, pudgy face and 38 years old. BUT, in your brain you think the whiteness and blue eyes goes further than it does in reality with women. It doesn't make you 6'4" and 185 pounds. It doesn't change your face. It doesn't stop you from being skinny fat. LET'S STOP BULLSHITTING OURSELVES AND GET REAL!
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 08:51 PM
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A true 7/10 isn't only getting 12 likes on Tinder. What a true 7/10 is getting is...pussy. Easily.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 08:46 PM
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I said "7" which implies above average facial attractiveness. That's my whole point. If you actually had facial attractiveness, you wouldn't just imply it. It'd be the first Goddamn thing you said when describing yourself because you'd understand JUST HOW FUCKING POWERFUL IT IS! Your face, height, and body type. That's all there is. I also noticed that you didn't mention your body type and weight. That's also HELLA SUS as the kids say!
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 06:23 PM
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they both overrate their worth and have really deep prejudices as well they all suck
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 04:48 PM
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Like I'm above average in every metric and that still isn't enough for american women. You might not be as "above average" as you think. You say 6" tall...that's really not that tall. Those extra 2 to 4 inches above that makes a BIG fucking difference. You might be over valuing your whiteness and blueness...the two words that I didn't see you type out are "handsome face." If you were going through life for the past 38 years with a handsome face, believe me, you would have typed those words out b…
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 04:47 PM
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while you wait for Mr. Big? I thought Mr. Big looked like an unattractive retarded douche. Not to mention he only dates vetted women not random wannabes from the street with second hand designer clothes. OUCH!
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 04:40 PM
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😂calm down Pattern 😂
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 08:20 AM
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Pd: the mental gymnastics in the comment section warrant an olympic medal There's only two other comments here besides yours. What the fuck are you talking about? You're acting like there's lots of comments here. In response to your actual post, her ex had a big cock. He was making her cum a lot that's why the videos were so much wilder than what she does with you. That's life. Not everyone is a big cock sexual superstar. Most men aren't.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 08:11 AM
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you would applaud her for respecting herself. 100%. She'd be their hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:56 PM
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Just because you have an insecurity It's cute how not wanting your girlfriend to post pictures of a string up her ass crack online equates to having "an insecurity." GOOD FOR JONAH! That's the way to handle them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:50 PM
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“The moment I almost broke up with my bf was when he was with depression, I lost all respect and attraction to him at that moment” That's the way it works. It's not good or bad. It's just how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:46 PM
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which also means he dodged a bullet with this nutcase He's the one that dodged the bullet. He handled everything in a masterful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:45 PM
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I was only kidding. The way that every damn thing men do is "violence against women" is just fucking ridiculous.
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 05:57 AM
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is not violence against women. YES YES YES IT IS!
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 11:20 PM
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CMV Disagreement The problem with your example is that most women in the USA are unattractive also. So, it becomes funny when some obese gal has all sorts of expectations and requirements. It's like...BUT YOU'RE "lowkey fat" and unattractive also, baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:50 AM
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I don't know whether to believe that you're truly this obtuse or just having some fun trolling. They are not specifically targeting men because they are men, they are targeting people who are purchasing sex Same with crack cocaine. They weren't targeting black people. They were just targeting people purchasing crack. It just so happens that most of the people purchasing crack were black. And, interesting coincidence that cocaine which enforced much more lenient penalties was mostly a white drug.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:53 AM
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Now you're just trolling. The premise of the article is clear. It's that the laws' severity level depended upon whether crack or coke: and, crack was basically black and coke was mostly white. You're definitely being cute. The argument is clear and you keep repeating nonsensical responses. If you do believe what you're saying, read the rest of the article and look into the issue a bit BEFORE responding. The law mandated a five-year minimum sentence for trafficking in 500g of powder cocaine or 5g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:42 AM
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The laws for drugs are race neutral. Non-white people have been incarcerated for drugs more frequently than white people not because they use/sell drugs more frequently than white people, but because the law was unfairly enforced. This is simply wrong. Please stop spreading this bullshit. It's actually harmful to spread this type of misinformation. It's not about enforcement. It's about laws that ARE PURPOSEFULLY NOT NEUTRAL BY DESIGN. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64009199 The US jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:25 AM
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Ahh, whataboutery, the lowest form of debate. According to whom? Womandatory? People make comparisons all the time in debates. It would be perhaps impossible to debate if a rule were created that you can't make a comparison. Try again. Secondly, we are not talking about dealing drugs. Once again we encounter Womandatory's baffling rule that comparisons aren't allowed in a debate. Comparing women to illicit substances is vile and misogynist. I have a feeling that in the world according to Womanda…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:51 AM
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Yes, just as the harsher penalties for crack were race neutral. YES, EXACTLY!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:45 AM
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Again, the subtext here is to criminalize and pathologies male sexuality while framing women as eternal victims in all cases. Yes, that's the correct summary. Women are the eternal victims. The woman making 200 K a year as a fancy hooker: she's the victim also! The law, as written, would allow some high end independent escort to charge some desperate simp $3k for a "girlfriend experience" and that man could then be locked up as a result. And, you're leaving out that she could visit the prisoner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:43 AM
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So hypothetically, if they punish men who purchase sex the same way the punish women who purchase sex, the law is both fair and non-discriminatory… Your argument is just silly. You know it's silly. There's the realm of hypothetical and the world of reality. In the world of reality, this law targets men. It used to be that penalties for crack were much tougher than powder cocaine. You're going to say: iT's nEuTrAL! Anybody who purchases crack is punished by the same laws. But, in REALITY it was m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:33 AM
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it’s designed to protect women who are often trafficked into prostitution as children What about all the prostitutes who aren't trafficked? Demand requires a supply. Decriminalizing buying sex creates demand. Sure. Drug dealers should be immune to criminal punishment and the guy buying an eight ball should serve the time for them both.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:08 AM
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It's harder to stop doings something that is your only source of income and there are lots of people who get forced into it, so it isn't really their choice to do what they're doing. There are also people who got forced as minors and now they just don't know anything better. Your comment could 100% apply to an inner city drug dealer in addition to other forms of criminality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:57 AM
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They do it for money and for lots of them there aren't viable ways to get out The same could be said for an inner city drug dealer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:56 AM
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What about the "high-class" call girl who's pulling down $200,000 a year. Her client should be arrested and she gets to walk free?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:55 AM
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I've traveled fucking plenty. More than most. And, the OP's comment below is simply an accurate observation everywhere in the USA. You can also plainly see the obsession with certain styles or traits that they all coincidentally seem fixated on in unison and seemingly out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:30 PM
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This is what you said: "your appearance has zero bearing on your personality whatsoever." That's just so silly it really doesn't warrant a counter argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:29 PM
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your appearance has zero bearing on your personality whatsoever. So, I'm just going to presume that you're trolling here. I don't think it's possible that anyone over the age of 14 could possibly believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:01 PM
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The gap between an incel and a guy with a gf is much, much smaller than the gap between a guy with a gf and a guy who's desired by women". You are on to something there. The truth is that there really aren't all that many men that are DESIRED by women.
/r/AllPillDebate08/07/23 03:26 PM
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Male perspective here, but when I read your post I'm left saying, ehhhhhhhhh. Why's he sending you the picture with the other girl in it? This might not be as innocent as it seems. This could be him amusing himself...sending this picture to test how you react. I'm a man, and this guy knows damn well that sending a picture of this woman with the banging body at his house isn't some completely innocent act. I think he did it to see your reaction. There really was no need to send a picture. It's no…
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/23 03:21 PM
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It’s not how you look; it’s how you act. Oh, please. It's both of those things, but it's misleading for me to even say that because how you look largely determines how you act.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:38 AM
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Again, your speaking about a certain type of woman that seem to fit some shallow, very young women, or women that are pretentious that live in urban communities.. This is not all women and it’s probably a small percentage of women. It’s almost like you got your information from movie characters or Netflix series, lol 😂. From what I've seen, OP's description applies to most women in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:37 AM
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Total daily time on social media = 16 hours. Must be rough. LOL...I think OP is purposefully exaggerating a bit to make the point. At least I hope so.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 08:00 PM
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So yes, the advice is still this: Go to the fucking gym, Get your fashion in style, get your food right, get your sleep, socialize - and take action - meet girls. 100% correct!
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 07:43 PM
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Why do people deny the Black Pill? The simple truth of it is too fucking painful. They just were good looking and confident boys who girls were attracted to. This shit starts at like age fucking 10. It starts in nursery school. I'm not trying to be funny. Looking back at the people who were successful in high school. They were confident, fun to be around and attractive. You're not as black pill as you think. They were attractive and THUS they were confident and fun to be around. I remember back …
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 07:40 PM
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I felt genuine disgust at the phrasing. Okay, fair enough. I appreciate it when a woman talks about her "general disgust" visceral response. It's always very interesting. But, was it JUST the phrasing that caused the disgust. Granted, I phrased it in a somewhat silly way. But, I suspect you're also disgusted by the general idea and sentiment?
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/23 07:11 PM
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It is a pretty big decision to take responsibility for someone else's family right from the get go. She's been involved with him for 13 months. I think your own experience is coloring your opinion. This is always the case for every human alive on earth ever. Maybe they aren't right together but I think it's irresponsible to act as though this isn't a package deal. It's like kids. Some women will be game and some will see it as a deal breaker. Acting like it's nothing is foolish. This portion of …
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/23 03:05 AM
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Yes, that would be very clever!
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/23 02:53 AM
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Yes. That is the REAL problem right there!
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/23 02:50 AM
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Reality is people will hit the wall by late 30’s, partly due to age and partly due to lifestyle changes A lot of women hit it before then these days. In some cases, significantly before. In a disturbing number of cases in the USA, there is no wall to even hit because the woman is a disaster even in her teens and twenties. That's a dose of painful truth right there.
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/23 02:12 AM
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I don't think Masterpiece was being persnickety. I was about to post something quite similar but Masterpiece saved me the trouble. Her comment is correct: the OP is not a good fit for this man. If she were, she wouldn't have this "one deal-breaker." Furthermore, OP is not in love with this man. I do like him a lot. What she's doing to this man is wrong. If YOU'RE NOT IN IT RIDE OR DIE WITH MOMMA IN THE SIDE CAR...then get out of it and allow this good man the opportunity to find his ride or die.…
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/23 01:59 AM
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Yes Agent 92, that is the topic of the post. However, posts will develop their own little tangents.
/r/RedPillWomen05/07/23 08:34 PM
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Speaking to someone that you have just started talking to in a sexual way isn’t making a move. Are you responding to my comment? I said this: Yes, I consider asking her out on a date to be "making a move." I stand by that. I'd say that qualifies as "a move." A lot of times by "a move" people mean trying to kiss the woman. I agree with that too. I don't really consider flirtation to necessarily be "a move." Why is it important that we pin down a definition of "a move"?
/r/RedPillWomen05/07/23 05:23 PM
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Yes, I consider asking her out on a date to be "making a move."
/r/RedPillWomen05/07/23 02:38 PM
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Yes, this mostly true in my experience as well. They'll be a few boderline chonkers pushing the envelope too.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 06:23 AM
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Here's something to consider from a male perspective that I'm adding here in a sincere way. Men these days are shamed if they don't show some aggression. And, it's quite often women who do the shaming. Women will talk with each other and say disparaging things about a man who doesn't quickly "make a move" etc. We've really been indoctrinated with this. Feminism has really made a total mess of everything.
/r/RedPillWomen05/07/23 06:19 AM
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CMV Disagreement Your post is excellent because it does a great job of explaining the original Red Pill. Just some very simple concepts that ARE NOT mean-spirited. It's just how men and women---in general---exist in reality. This evolutionary psychology stuff is the grift. BUT, this part: So CMV - Is TRP just common sense explained to autistic men in a men vs. women narrative? No, young non-autistic men need to have this TRP common sense explained to them to counteract Feminism's indoctrination.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:36 PM
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How "relatively attractive"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:17 PM
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Women face higher risks in "mating" therefore they need to be pickier. Having high standards is not bad. And if your standards are unrealistic then only person it's hurting is yourself. So I don't really see a problem there. Yes, I tend to agree with this assessment. OP says: Women, on the other hand, consistently feel entitled to men way out of their league and think they are models when they are completely average looking. And, yes...I agree with that also. I've laughed to myself about the ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:15 PM
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Hey Birdman: Your posts give one the sense that you just learned the word "parasocial" and are having a lot of fun trying to shoehorn it into conversations in which it doesn't belong. Don't over complicate things so much. Sometimes a person can articulate a person's views more effectively than they can...it doesn't have to mean all your parasocial gobbledeegook. The viewer simply enjoys hearing somebody eloquently express their sentiments. This is incredibly common.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:42 PM
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He's a stupid asshole who should act his age. He insulted the fat gal who was in a bathing suit on the cover of Sports Illustrated. While I agreed with his sentiment, he did this in a little Tweet, and he should have just kept those thoughts in his head or expressed them in a more sophisticated way in an essay. But, more than just that tweet, the stupid bastard is always being stupid on Twitter. I see 28 minutes ago he tweeted "DIE CNN"... C'mon you old fuck....act like a 61 year old man you ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:02 PM
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Crabgrass, I'm responding to Johnny Autism's original post in which he's saying essentially that women have this unrealistic beauty standard for men of tall and muscly "swimmer's physique" such as Michael Phelps. I was disagreeing with Johnny Autism and saying that in the real world it's not necessary to have that swimmer's physique to attract lots of women. It's enough to be tall, lean, handsome, etc. You don't need to have those type of muscles that require extreme dedication to the gym. Johnn…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:53 PM
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LOL! Total lack of awareness. Why a lack of awareness? You can stay lean by eating properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:30 PM
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Okay. I happen to agree with you. But, running circles around those two assholes doesn't mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:16 PM
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Jordan Peterson actually wants people to get better. Jordan Peterson is a complete asshole. He's crying like an asshole and insulting fat women in an unnecessary way. His little points of view are immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:12 PM
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Youre at best admitting a desperation to engage in a parasocial relationship, potentially admitting you cannot relate to any real human beings around you at worst, yet rather than think to yourself that you need to develop real connections and self reliance your first thought is "but where is my next e-celebrity for me to stalk online"... You dont need grass, you need legitimate psychiatric intervention. I'm not even trying to be funny or rude here, you seriously need help. How the fuck did you …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:11 PM
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Heartiste, Roosh, Rollo All shitty representatives anyway. Any man who you'd want to represent RP would also be a man who wouldn't want to represent RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:08 PM
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CMV Disagreement Once again, forget about what everyone SAYS about anything. Forget about magazine articles. See how things ACTUALLY play out in the REAL WORLD. With women in the REAL WORLD, forget all this talk here and elsewhere about women wanting a "swimmer's physique" etc. That's not how it actually works when it comes to picking-up women for short-term hook-ups and such. Being tall and lean with a smooth sociability is more than enough to succeed with A LOT of women. No need to spend much …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:54 PM
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just used for sex Again, just like you "had to bear children" comment, it seems like we have another woman here who doesn't believe in female agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:37 PM
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Except the ones who had to bear children had to?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:35 PM
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women’s worse trauma will be something crazy like being gang raped at 14 and drugged and raped twice in college Don't overestimate the prevalence of these things either. Don't act like being gang raped at 14 is the universal female experience in the USA. Fucked-up shit happens to men also.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:33 PM
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When you say "has it harder"...it seems like you mean "just in general." It'd be more interesting if you got more specific as in "career" "dating" etc. This question doesn't really get interesting unless you make it three scenarios that includes average woman vs average man. Because there is no question that the average woman has it exponentially better than the average man. And, most people, of course, are average. So, your scenario is looking at the outliers. And, we all know what you mean by …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:27 PM
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why are you so inclined to believe every woman is lying to you? A lot of women give a lower number. That's just how it is because there still remains a stigma (though it is certainly decreasing). But the long-running stigma concerns a lower value associated with promiscuity. i know you probably don't get any pussy and that's why you're so resentful towards women A gratuitous ad hominem that you really have no way of knowing in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:55 AM
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just matching your energy. I acknowledged that in my comment above. If you really wanted an education, you seek it out on your own instead of asking people to spoon feed you. All right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:43 AM
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If you want to know crime statistics, they are easy enough for you to google yourself. But I get the vibe that you don’t want the truth to be what it is. It's your task---not mine---to make your argument. YOU RHUBARB SAID: "but crime statistics alone address this." I asked for your statistics. And, you responded with some anecdotes along with a few attempted insults. I admit I was a bit aggressive with my initial response to you. So, no offense taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:33 AM
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Go ahead. Make a case with the statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:25 AM
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That's exactly right.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 04:40 AM
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I tried talking to autistic girls as well, but they also thought I was way too weird. Very ironic. I love that part. This fucking life. Personality didn't matter. I had been myself and gotten made fun of, masked and became a pushover, and finally let my mask slip, thereby committing social sooiside. It's not that it doesn't matter. It's that for it to matter good looks must first be present. Very good looks alone are enough for a man to do well. But, if you add personality on top of those looks,…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 03:45 AM
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Yes, this is simply true. I'm bold as hell. It almost always works. It's funny how simple it all is...
/r/RedPillWomen03/07/23 02:35 AM
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Really you need to blame other men who behaved so badly to the women you want to date. Hence, that’s why our guard is up with you, that’s why we are jaded, and irritated and short fused. What a bunch of bigoted bullshit. Imagine for a minute that a different racial/ethnic group was substituted for men in your example. You go through life and have a few bad experiences with a particular racial category of people and therefore righteously justify a widespread racism. THAT'S REALLY CUTE, Rhubarb!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:05 AM
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on the other hand I wouldn't shame men for managing their risk. Yes, I think is a fair point. Men really do need to protect themselves and anticipate risk and problems. The end result remains, though, that natural and appealing aspects of masculinity get repressed.
/r/RedPillWomen03/07/23 12:55 AM
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https://www.calculator.net/ideal-weight-calculator.html
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:13 PM
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If you're talking about a truly beautiful woman...not a cute girl or an attractive woman blah blah blah, because, let's face it, the standards these days have gone to total shit. These chubby girls think they're Goddamn beauty queens these days. But, if you're talking about a truly beautiful woman like a 30 year old Heidi Klum, then hell yes...most men are fucking scared to approach a woman like that. That's simply a fact. I've known and hung-out with those type of women. The rules change. Reali…
/r/RedPillWomen02/07/23 05:04 PM
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Feminism and its vindictive fundamental nature has turned modern men into a bunch of total fucking pussies. I understand that doesn't sound nice: but, that's the truth of the matter. These spiritually deformed Feminist nutjobs have demonized basic male sexuality. Men are scared one of these sickos may be secretly recording them and posting it to Twitter. "OMG! That man looked at me at the gym while I was wearing yoga shorts that were completely pulled up my ass crack which I do FOR ME! I'm weari…
/r/RedPillWomen02/07/23 04:42 PM
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Men need to stop having any type of romantic/sexualized interaction with any woman who is not the correct body weight for her height. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:34 PM
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maintaining my home (I have well-managed ADHD but I love simple/affordable organization hacks, routines, tips, etc.) How does the well-managed ADHD relate to this? It's my understanding that when it's managed your focus can be extremely good? Is that right?
/r/RedPillWomen02/07/23 03:27 PM
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PURGE is the most fun time here. That is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:28 AM
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Feminism's spin is TRULY AMAZING! None of us have ever heard the second part of that statement. The only human who's heard it in the history of humanity is WestCombSplit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:27 AM
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I respect your honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 12:12 AM
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Yup, I never said always. That's true. You didn't say "always." You said something quite similar, though: All of these movies fall into the same shitty mold.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:44 PM
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OK? So what about all the women who aren't terrified? What about all the women who weren't terrified 10 years ago? 20 years ago? 50 years ago? Are they just crazy? I agree with where you're going. The way these women are portraying things, in addition to be downright silly, just isn't accurate in the realm of REALITY. I talk to women I don't know ALL THE FUCKING TIME. And, I've been doing it for decades. And, these categorical descriptions being given of women's terror when an unknown man talks …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:41 PM
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It just doesn't feel safe to women. It's fine if you speak for YOURSELF. It's not valid for you to speak for WOMEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:38 PM
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Also, when you cold approach, women know you are only hitting on them based on one factor. How they look. No kidding. That's the way it's always been. So what? That doesn't bother women at all. On the contrary, that's the very reason why they look the way they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:36 PM
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An attractive man approaching a woman = comfortable. An unattractive man approaching a woman = uncomfortable. Correct. It's never the place. It's ALWAYS the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:02 PM
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They enjoy romance because they love being romanced and having romance done to them. This is so true. Women...and, yes, I mean all women...absolutely love a very particular man (charming, good looking) telling them a bunch of flattering shit even when they know it's bullshit. THEY FUCKING LOVE IT! They know he's a charming full-of-shit guy. They still love it. They can't help it. People don't like this point of view. Doesn't matter. It's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:00 PM
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CMV - Disagreement A woman on the bottom of the social hierarchy that has no character (so wider female audience can identify with her) falls for the ape on the top of the hierarchy. Not always. I think there's a popular fantasy where there's a beautiful woman who's not beautiful because she wears glasses and needs a haircut. But, she can't figure any of that out. She and everyone else are convinced she's ugly as fuck. But, she takes off her glasses and gets a haircut and suddenly she's beautifu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:58 PM
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Do you find it ironic that all bluepill content creators are ugly af? No, it would be ironic if they were handsome af.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 06:54 AM
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Favorite thing about women: Very fun to be around. When you accept the sort of general female nature for what it is...they're just a lot of fun to be around! Gender specific about their struggle: fear of various dangers that women are more susceptible to such as harassment, violence, rape, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 06:33 AM
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CMV: Partial agreement/partial disagreement Great post. I agree with the majority of it. Here are a few points of contention. I don't consider this essay to be "the final word." The simple fundamental concepts in the Red Pill don't need any subsequent "pill" in my view. In a partner-seeking context, self-improvement tends to be gaslighting This is the opposite of gaslighting. If a man wants more women interested in him, there is no better first step than for him to improve his appearance in any …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:41 AM
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My main thing is that a man can have an inner emotional world without being a pussy. You can be a masculine tough son of a bitch and still get sad or frustrated once in a while. Generally, you show some sadness or indecision around women and it doesn't go very well. What do I want to understand about women? Sometimes a woman's attraction can shift really fucking fast. I sort of get it, but it can be surprising sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:26 AM
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You’re competing against a woman’s peace and joy in her solitude. Aromatic, I was basing what I said off of... YOU! YOU said "solitude." Let's call a truce...here's my WHITE FLAG... let's diplomatically circumvent this semantic turf war. But, in the words of Rambo: YOU DREW FIRST BLOOD! i.e. You used the word "solitude."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:23 AM
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full nun mode is still a better option than dating men who don’t meet our expectations. Fair enough. It makes sense to me when you put it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:15 AM
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CMV Agreement Overall, when you really have nothing special going on for you, dating is tough as a guy, tougher than it has been for almost every one of your ancestors. The way we seem to blame men for being lonely, virginal, having no "rizz" or not fucking around when they're young, is callous, cruel, and deliberately ignorant of the factors nowadays that make the dating market an existential minefield of angst and prolonged suffering for men. I have to agree with your post. I've got it going o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:51 PM
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You’re competing against a woman’s peace and joy in her solitude. What a bunch of bologna. Solitude doesn't agree with human beings. The punishment given is SOLITARY CONFINEMENT. THAT IS THE PUNISHMENT!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:49 PM
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Ouch! That hurts. What movie is that?
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 11:12 PM
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CMV sort of disagreement I get your premise, and there's definitely a sound logic to it. But, in the real world, it just doesn't really work that way. If some upright average dude is watching all the "bad boys" killing it with women... he can think to himself: that woman's only going to be trouble... she's not worth it... but, that doesn't stop him from being a human man with normal male libido and desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:00 PM
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CMV Agreement Yes, I basically agree with your post. In my life, honestly... I think there was one woman who REALLY loved ME...and, I was so stupid back then...God, was I stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:56 PM
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Indeed. I believe this also.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:17 AM
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Average women don’t look like your hyperfeminine porn stars and insta thots. They look like a regular woman at Walmart. No, the real problem is that THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE a happy medium between those two extremes but in the USA that happy medium is VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND because of the obesity epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:16 AM
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CMV Disagreement It really depends on the particular man. The harsh truth is that if you are a single male past a certain age, no one wants you around. Honestly, this really isn't true for all men. I believe that it's true for you. You're over generalizing by a lot here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:36 AM
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Ok, I'm just going to bow out of this because I don't have any personal experience with this. It seems like relationships between autistic men and autistic women are very complex. It sounds like there's a lot going on there. It seems like there's a lot of resentment on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:11 PM
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You're just retreating to a very familiar attack against men: that if a man makes any complaint about how he's treated he's a pussy ("waah waah") who needs to man up and shut the fuck up. I don't have any authority on this topic. I don't know. But, the point of view he expressed---that autistic women have it easier---I could see this being the case. What he's saying makes sense. The autistic kid I knew in high school used to get his ass literally kicked every day. Is it the same for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:26 PM
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OP said this: We have DIFFERENT issues. You're arguing with him about that. I'm going to take his word for it. He IS autistic, and it appears this is something that he's given a lot of thought to. After all, men and women generally do have different issues. Why wouldn't that be the case with autism also? Why wouldn't it play out differently between the genders. Many things do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:42 AM
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Well, we all speak in general terms based upon our personal experiences on these type of matters. My entire life has been spent in the USA, and I've mostly seen extremely low-effort women who are overweight/obese. I'm not trying to sound mean. This is mostly what I see. It's downright scary. It's so bad that I'm a bit surprised when I see a woman who's simply in the healthy weight range for her height.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:56 PM
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Women tend to put a lot more effort into their appearance than men do. I don't know where you're at, but in the USA in 2023, this isn't what I'm seeing. It's scary out there! YIKES! Secondly, women absolutely notice looks, but are far less likely to have sex solely on that basis. I think you have this reversed. They're more likely to have sex solely on that basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:24 PM
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Is it even possible to pursue this today, at least in the modern Anglosphere? Mostly no. Do you have any moral objections to a man doing this, and if so what are they? I'd counsel against it. Marriage is a legal contract that confers no benefit to a man: actually, he only puts himself in legal jeopardy. The other party---the wife---is rewarded for breaking the contract. You can't encourage someone to enter a legal contract of that nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 08:40 AM
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Yes, to find a gf or wife you most likely will need to be a gentleman. You also will need to groom yourself, maintain a healthy weight, have a thriving social life, have the sexual knowledge/experience you need to ensure you can both be satisfied, and have the means to provide for a family. These are all things that might have been omitted from your teenage talks with your mom, but they’re all things that you should have picked up as you experienced life and failures with women. Oh, please. What…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 08:33 AM
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You were your high school's quarterback? How progressive!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:01 PM
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The dilemma happens because men refuse to give up on their dream of stealing the head cheerleader away from the quarterback, not because women "lied" to men. I notice this same motif in many of your remarks. What's with your fixation on head cheerleaders and quarterbacks??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:32 PM
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I'd shake him and say "Wake up, man, you don't want to be with that woman." I'd put a bullhorn up to his ear and yell the very same thing at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:22 PM
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Wow. How magnanimous! You'd go out with a really nice, funny guy with a bunch of money! WOW! Pat yourself on the back! You're a real outlier!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:40 PM
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Why the fuck would I have game, dude? It makes life more fun. Your post concerns game. By the way, I'm not crazy about the term "game." But, you clearly don't have any. THAT IS ME BEING REAL.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:54 PM
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Tell me you got ZERO GAME without saying, "Hey dude, I got zero game!" Also, what you originally said wasn't "I don't know if I like you or not. Wanna find out?" It was: "Hey, I'm not sure if I'm attracted to you. Wanna go out anyway?" Either way is terrible, but you did change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:41 PM
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I never did that experiment. But, I like my way more than yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:58 PM
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Okay. I basically do agree with your 2nd and 3rd paragraphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:57 PM
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That's just silly. He should say something like, "I'm the type of guy who really needs to get to know a woman first before being in a relationship. I'd like to give this a try with you."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:55 PM
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Where? How? That's my favorite comment from you yet! Especially the "how" part. I LOVE THAT! Imagine if all Redditors responded here as you do. The OP's been going through his life and he's stating his impression. He's not providing a doctoral thesis with references. He's stating how the world appears to him. And, here's BigVulva's response: "You say, you see this in reality? Where? How? Can you show me an example? " LOL!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:43 PM
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My mom thinks the average young woman is "crazy" and that I should vet carefully. based mom
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:34 PM
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You say, you see this in reality? Where? How? Can you show me an example? This is just you trolling around. It's like saying, "You guys say that you see the sky sometimes. Where? How?" Like...where do you think? As to your "How" question: that doesn't even make sense. As to your, "Can you show me an example?": insert that crying laughing emoji. I have a few questions before I can formulate my view. That's hilarious stuff. Why? The original post is at the top. You still haven't responded to the O…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:30 PM
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What I want is an interesting, intellectual, intelligent man who can hold long, deep, funny and interesting conversations. Someone who can entertain me and support me through tough times emotionally and mentally. Good luck with that. All I want is a beautiful woman with an IQ +130.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:24 PM
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unless he's desperate You're acting like the "unless he's desperate" part is some outlier condition. THAT IS THE CONDITION which makes this possible. It's not some unusual and rare condition. IT IS PREVALENT! That's how these overweight and boring American women squeak by: because of desperate men who are in really shitty shape themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:20 PM
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I'm still waiting to hear where y'all learn or see this happening. Just like most people, he's relaying what he's seen in life. I'm still waiting to hear where y'all learn or see this happening. But, that's NOT what you're doing. You're attributing things to this guy that he doesn't say: Because in the next breath, you're telling women they will die alone with their cats. And in another breath telling women they are only good for their bodies. Your problem is that you're not really expressing a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:17 PM
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It doesn't. You're responding to other people's posts in this guy's post. Strange behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:51 PM
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CMV Disagreement The reason that men "play games" when pursuing sex/relationships is primarily because women are more attracted to men who can hide their level of attraction I'm not going to say that point of view is totally wrong, but I don't find it to be the most effective or time efficient approach. I also don't consider it very manly. I've found the best approach is to immediately sexualize the interaction. If I want to fuck the woman, I AM NOT going to pretend like I don't want to fuck her…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:25 AM
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"I want to _ _ _ _ on your _ _ _ _." It should take about 4 seconds to end the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:52 PM
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Okay. thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:42 PM
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You sound cool. Remember, this All Pill Debate subreddit is a little gathering spot on the Internet where a whole lot of resentment/frustration is expressed, and it doesn't really represent the world.
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 06:57 PM
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Even if he’s my age? How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:53 PM
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not getting any What?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:50 PM
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Obsessing with this idea is just rank insecurity. I think there's also an element of nonreality, romanticism to it: really a type of escapism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:50 PM
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But, somehow their concern with young women's well-being seems to begin and end with age gap relationships. That's interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:37 PM
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Older women are not mad about this situation, we think it’s creepy and disgusting and have a desire to protect younger women Virtue signal to disguise old ladys' jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:36 PM
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But that isn’t good enough for men. Men are angry that women want to be treated well. Even you seethe when a woman wants to be treated well What you described is good enough for me.
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 06:33 PM
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Perhaps the first thing you've said that I agree with...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:22 PM
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Well, maybe I shouldn't be Monty! But, for whatever reason, I like to think the human species won't die off. Perhaps you're right, though. Who gives a fuck!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:21 PM
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That's not how I meant it, Maria. I meant it in a friendlier more joking way. Sorry if it came off differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:16 PM
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I do and maybe other younger women do as well. No, they don't. They don't give a shit about a bitter perspective heard on...Reddit. And it is precisely for this reason why young women should be cautious: their youth and thus their value to men is fleeting and they risk being discarded once they age. Yes, I agree with this. Young women should be cautious. Personally, realising that has put me off men, young and old, for good. Whatever will we do...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:45 PM
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Be realistic is my advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:43 PM
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Also if you’re chasing then chances are she’s not that into you or she’s settling. Yes, of course. Because, according to YOU, women HATE men who make the first move. Women LOVE to be the aggressors. I forgot about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:42 PM
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I'm judging the men. You don't like it that men want young and beautiful women? Welcome to reality. It's always been this way and it will always be this way. MEN LOVE AND WANT YOUNG AND BEAUTIFUL WOMEN. The judgmental bitterness of totallyworkinghere will not change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:24 PM
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Why does the 30 year old man want a woman barely out of college with no real life experience? Because she's young and beautiful. THE END.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:20 PM
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but somehow that "better match" is also better match for 80% of other women, that's literally competing Yes, it obviously is...but, on PPD there is an incredible belief espoused that "wOmEn dOn't dO tHat!" It's just ridiculous and laughable. They're so resistant to admitting that women compete for the best men out there. It's so weird how they won't admit this obvious reality. Yes, I know...women are just putting on the make-up and spending time in front of the mirror for themselves...and, oh ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:17 PM
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This feels like a only on reddit moment. Most of her comments fall into that category. I mostly see younger women admiring my spouse for getting such a great catch as a 50 year old man. YOU GO, BOY!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:10 PM
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Your biggest problem is this thought never entered your brain: "Who the hell am I to be sitting back and judging the lives of other women?" Let that thought enter your mind for once. Who cares what totallyworkinghere thinks about their dating choices when they're 18 years old versus 26 years old? How did totallyworkinghere get appointed to the position of sanctifying or scorning the ages of participants in a relationship? Who the hell are you to tell an 18 year old woman whom she should choose t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:08 PM
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Older men preying on younger girls is not a new trend That's so cute that how when a young woman sexually desires an older man she's being "preyed upon." It's so interesting how younger women's volition and sexuality is downplayed when the woman making the judgment finds its reality unappealing. Sorry to burst your bubble, but there are younger women who prefer a very particular subset of older men. Welcome to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:02 PM
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CMV Disagreement This guidance is silly. The "most attractive" women out there receive such a tremendous amount of male attention and most of them have been living that reality since they were 14 years old (or younger, really). It's their nonstop reality, and everything about them has been influenced and molded by that reality. They are quite aware of their power and the caliber of man they're capable of getting. Have you ever actually known a beautiful woman and seen what her life is like when …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:45 PM
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Yes, SunGod...let's get the birthrate to 0 and end humanity. GREAT ADVICE!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:32 PM
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Could be somewhat true but it really does seem like Gen Z is more obsessed with height than previous generations. This is my impression also. I get flirtatious attention from some Gen Z women out in the world, and I'm like...c'mon Girl, I could easily be your dad. The Gen Z women are also way the fuck more aggressive in my experience also.
/r/AllPillDebate24/06/23 11:11 PM
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Hi Reddit Friendly, I don't understand your comment. What was I "triggered enough" by? What am I zooming away from and sidestepping? I need you to be much more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:39 PM
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I think lesbians especially despise effeminate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:31 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 09:32 PM
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It’s a harmless video The subtext is that she wants to get pounded by these two tall men. Let's not bullshit each other.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 09:30 PM
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Okay, I see. Your reaction was based on more than just his comment in this thread.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 09:04 PM
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Well genuine connections are not easy to find at all regardless of my height so that’s delusional in itself. This is true. It's not just about fucking a woman. If you're not pounding any pussy, it might seem that way. But, the genuine connection part is no insignificant thing. And, it's hard to come by.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 09:01 PM
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but to get a girl I’m attracted to and have a connection with is very hard regardless of your height. I find this to be true also.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 08:59 PM
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Why the cursing and anger Pro Goat? It's a reasonable question.
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 08:58 PM
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Where do you live Cezanne?
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 08:57 PM
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I’ve dated and have had sex with almost entirely Latina or black women (some Indian as well) despite me being white This is no small detail. The whiteness is what's working for you. have been told I’m handsome/good looking most of my life If this is something you've been consistently told your entire life, then it's absolutely true. The handsomeness combined with the whiteness is what's working for you with darker skinned women. But, what you're not doing is fucking some tall, skinny beautiful w…
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 08:54 PM
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Okay, that's very interesting. Technically speaking, if it's a woman you're interested in and you sense that she's not, so you walk away without "making a real move"...yes, technically speaking you're correct. But, I just never really thought of it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:19 PM
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I’m talking about less than 30 second interactions with complete strangers. So you have to initiate the convo first to see if they reciprocate. It’s incredibly easy to tell if a woman is disinterested as soon as you talk to her. Right, this has a lot of similarity to what I'm saying. It's very easy to see if you have a chance or not. So, if you don't sense you have a chance, then move along and thus bypass rejection all together. If you're counting that when you sense that the woman isn't intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:12 PM
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Concerning our discussion about women competing with women for the best men, here's an article from Psychology Today, which would be considered a reputable source, written by a psychologist who's also a professor of psychology. https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/insight-therapy/201401/feminine-foes-new-science-explores-female-competition Only in the '80s did science begin to investigate in earnest the same phenomenon on the other side of the gender divide: female competition for a suitabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:45 PM
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That’s not competing, though. What would you like to call it then? There are some men who have particularly got it going on and there's a bunch of women who want that particular man. Call it whatever you like, but that's how life actually works. I mean - 6’2 guy sounds scrawny to me anyhow, but that’s beside the point. lol, don't worry. He's doing just fine. NOW think of the young, attractive woman and tell me about the men falling all over themselves to get her attention Yes, of course. Men com…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:28 PM
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The theory of evolution---though complex---basically means that the characteristics that are more likely to ensure reproductive success are "naturally selected" to be passed on. If anything you citing evolution/natural selection weakens your position, but this gets very involved, and I'm not pretending to be an evolutionary biologist/psychologist here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:25 PM
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Women don’t compete for males. It's amazing to me that a person actually believes this. I'm going to presume you are very young. The 49 billion spent on the cosmetic/beauty industry last year is because...women just want to look good for each other! Yes, of course. https://www.statista.com/statistics/243742/revenue-of-the-cosmetic-industry-in-the-us/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:21 PM
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If this is a just game then I guess it's ok for men to manipulate women It can be thought of as "a game" because if you play it a certain way you do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:28 PM
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If other women want you, other women are going to want you too. As the kids say: BASED. Your statement isn't even an opinion. This is an indisputable fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:26 PM
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I’m not sure what scenario you envisage where women are “competing” with each other. LOL! The scenario is every moment of human life on earth where men and women are in the same proximity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:25 PM
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CMV Disagreement Rejection is not completely consequence free. It largely is for several reasons. The first: it doesn't have an actual impact on you. The only downside scenario you provide is solved by going to a different club or bar. But, the main problem with your post is that you can pretty well tell before "taking your shot" what response you'll get. There's not really a need to get rejected. If you have some basic human abilities to read how an interaction with a woman is going...it's real…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:22 PM
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nothing pisses an older woman more than seeing an attractive older man dating a younger woman. That's simply true. I've experienced this enough times myself. Older women get pissed-off in a quiet way that they can't seem to help. You see it on their faces. They CAN'T hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:44 PM
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I just think it's not necessarily as precise a term as you think it is. I don't think it's a precise term because it's describing a type of Gestalt. But, I do think that most people have a sense of that Gestalt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:02 PM
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Indeed. That's what I'm saying. I had an experience sort of like that myself. The break-up didn't happen immediately. But, I could tell that my worthiness had declined in her eyes. Come to think of it, I've experienced this more than once. Lesson finally learned at some point a while back.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:47 PM
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You use words like “pussy” and “masculine” further cementing traits to genders. I'm okay with cementing traits to genders. I think our natural biological realities do the cementing, so to speak. Women aren’t pussies. Agreed. We all know that it's a term applied to men suggesting they're unmanly, wimpy, weak, etc. You can be feminine and courageous. Agreed. Or do you feel that “masculine” carries inherit positive traits as “courage”, “assertiveness” and “conversational”? Yes. I consider the term …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:44 PM
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Better to focus on the specifics rather than using a deliberately loaded word that's about someone's masculinity. I heavily prefer men who don't have a traditional relationship to masculinity, but doesn't mean they're a "pussy". I agree that it's a loaded term and...not a polite word. But, it was also the best term to express the idea in my opinion. Calling a man a "pussy" is saying something that I think is hard to define precisely but most people know just what you're trying to get across.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:38 PM
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But is there anything wrong with not liking a “pussy”? No. And I don’t agree that women hate it. It’s just not a trait anyone finds attractive. I accept that. It's still a negative perception. So, what do you think men who acts like “pussies” should do in order to make themselves more attractive? I think they should be more bold generally in their approach to life and try to be more masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:12 PM
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Isnt “pussy” the same as cowardice? It's an interesting term because it suggests a lot of different things including that. I think it's a term that's difficult to define but we all sort of know what it means. But, no...if you call someone a pussy I do not think that the first thought that comes to mind is "coward" in particular. If anything, I think it's a much more general and somewhat ambiguous conception of "unmanliness." Is the conclusion that women should find it attractive? Well, I titled …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:52 PM
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Okay, but do you have a negative opinion of shy women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:39 PM
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I agree. Notice I put sensitive men in quotation marks. I did that because I mean it in a particular way that it's been used in media discussions for a long time now. I should have made that more clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:37 PM
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That you choose to focus on “women” specifically says that you have a narrow view of your analysis. Or do you think cowardice is attractive in any relationship? Your comment is strange for several reasons. One, it suggests that we're not allowed to have a discussion with a narrow focus. Two, it suggests a symmetry between men and women in respect to traits deemed attractive. Three, you're conflating my thoughts with the term "coward." I didn't once use the term coward. People in general dislike …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:31 PM
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Being sensitive does not mean he’s automatically a pussy. Those are two separate things. I like sensitive because it means emotionally intelligent. Being a pussy is unattractive because I’m not lesbian Yes, there's focus on the term "sensitive men." I can see how that terminology invites dispute. I put it in quotations. I mean it in the way that it's popularly been used in the media for the past several decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:27 PM
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People despise weakness, not vulnerability. Yes, I used the word "pussies." People want to quibble about that term, but I used it because---although not easy to define in this type of usage---we all simply know what it means. Calling a man a "pussy" MEANS you're calling him WEAK. Is there anyone to suggest it means you're referring to how strong he is?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:24 PM
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I think you're misinterpreting sensitive and grounded to mean weak and docile. Maybe that's all you've ever seen, or maybe that's just what you're insecure about in yourself. I put sensitive men in quotations because I get your point. or maybe that's just what you're insecure about in yourself. The little ad hominem speculation arrives by the second sentence. What women REALLY go crazy for is a strong man who is grounded, knows how and when to be vulnerable, and shows restraint (i.e. not flying …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:20 PM
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Yes, I think that's a damn good point with some validity. And, I'd extend it beyond that, though, to things like posting videos online of men trying to pick-up women and such. I understand that this is a gray area because sometimes the man can be out of line. However, there are other cases where the man's behavior is conventionally acceptable and he still finds himself "creep shamed." And, I do think this cultural climate can decrease male assertiveness, certainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:56 AM
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I'm not sure this is symmetrical. You have men that they refer to as "white knights" and so forth who seem to get off on that type of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:48 AM
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I will say I think hate is a strong word. I certainly don’t hate men who exhibit the characteristics you’ve outlined however it does invoke a sense of pity and ultimately a loss of respect (unfairly so) and pity is death to desire. Okay, so I obviously accept your distinction above. I'd add, though, that although different than hate; pity and loss of respect are also negative perceptions. Point well taken that they are different than hate. Do you find that you lose attraction for a women who you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:46 AM
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Orange, here's the comments you're referring to. The Redditor said this: I wish my boyfriend would share his feelings with me more than he already does. I said this: Honestly, be careful what you wish for...that might seem appealing on paper, but the reality of it can be quite different. It's also a question of extent and degree. Nowhere in there did I say or suggest "devoid of emotion." I said "extent and degree." Not everything is black and white. Of all people, you should know that Orange.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:43 AM
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Instead he ... moans or groans I guess? But not in a sexual way, more like a pain sound. And, how do you interpret that? You're saying that rather than outright cry he moans and groans as if in pain?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:53 AM
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Okay, so lacking backbone and being mopey can be distinguished from being sensitive. I agree with that. Your second point sounds like good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:51 AM
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I don't understand either of your points. The first seems like nonsense. The second...how does "develop a sense of self" fit into this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:46 AM
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So who’s to judge what’s too much? That would likely mean different things for different people? Let's just be honest...you know it when you see it. It's difficult to quantify in words, but you know it when you see it!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:42 AM
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shy, gentle partner Does your shy, gentle partner frequently cry around you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:38 AM
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That's an interesting question. In order for it to elicit a strong negative reaction from men, it would have to be a very negative quality. Honestly, I'd have to think about that. Perhaps women who act excessively masculine might bring about negative reactions from men. I'd have to think about this some more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:34 AM
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We don't hate them we don't even think about them. One could argue that's worse than hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:30 AM
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I think that if you remove the word pussy, and replace it with feminine, then he has a stronger point. C'mon browncheeks. There's some excessive linguistic hair-splitting going on here. In the real world, everybody knows that calling a man a "pussy" is saying "excessively feminine." I mean...the term being used is pussy!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:24 AM
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Too much talking about feelings. Yes, I stand by that. TOO MUCH talking about feelings. I'm not saying "not talking about how you feel." But, we all know what it looks like when there's a guy who talks about his feelings TOO MUCH. It's a matter of degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:20 AM
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To think you can have a relationship devoid of emotion is hilarious. I consider this is a strawman because nowhere did I say "devoid of emotion." I said men who act like pussies. To "not act like a pussy" does not mean devoid of emotion. I said, "Acting emotional and sad and mopey." By that I mean overly-emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:19 AM
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No, I don't think it applies to women at all. A shy woman is not looked down upon by men. In fact, this could often be seen as a positive characteristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:09 AM
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Okay, this semantic distinction is being made in this thread, and I think it's a good one. As I said above, to not respect someone is still a very negative perception of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:08 AM
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Don't respect =/= hate. Yes, that's a fair point. It's still a very negative perception, but there is a difference, I recognize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:06 AM
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No, you're putting forth a strawman there. That's not what I was saying. I'm just talking about basic, fundamental masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:44 AM
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Personally, I had 3 relationships when younger and was very much a pussy. This is simply a great statement. But, you were a good looking skater so maybe you weren't so much the pussy that you think. Skateboarding, in and of itself, is a fairly masculine, risky activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:40 AM
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To be frank, you know what I feel about them? Pity man Okay, very good point. That seems very accurate sounding to me. Here's the thing...whether it's hate or pity, they're both bad. A woman pitying a man is a sad thing for that man. I might rather have her hatred than pity!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:31 AM
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Men have experiences and women need to stop telling men how to behave; instead they should ask questions. Ask why we feel that way. Try to see our perspective. Then we will make progress. This all very true. As men we have experienced this shit first-hand. We know how it goes when we've shown emotional vulnerability to women. It does not go well. There's a movie scene where a guy talks about how you "don't pull back the curtain and show the little man back there" or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:28 AM
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Every woman I’ve been with thought she was special in this regard; but when I shared my true feelings they all, in some way, became distant and men can feel that. Yes, this has been my personal experience as well. When I was very young, I had been brainwashed by the cultural bullshit about being a "sensitive man." A real life woman taught me right quick that this shit ain't wanted in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:18 AM
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No one likes a scared helpless woman either Not really true. You've heard of the "damsel in distress." There's always a line of dipshits rushing to help the "scared helpless woman."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:12 AM
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Well at the moment his disinclination for expressing emotion is something that I find difficult for our relationship because without having communication about his feelings I feel: Right, but we're talking about different things here. You're talking about how you want him to communicate more: you want more intimacy. I'm talking about men who act unmanly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:11 AM
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I date women, so it's not really a symmetrical comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:08 AM
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I wish my boyfriend would share his feelings with me more than he already does. Honestly, be careful what you wish for...that might seem appealing on paper, but the reality of it can be quite different. It's also a question of extent and degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:02 AM
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Don't understand the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:00 AM
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CICO That's the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:28 PM
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CMV Mostly agreement posted under Automod OP, it seems I'm the only one so far who agrees a bit with you. I think you're over generalizing, but I do think your explanation does explain some of the Karens out there. Losing your looks can have a real pain attached to it. Many aren't sympathetic to beautiful women because they think that these beautiful women have got it totally made. Everyone has downsides that aren't readily obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:44 PM
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I haven't seen someome compliment a girl then get with her. It sounds to me like you've had a limited range of experiences if you've never seen this happen. You must be hanging out with a group that shares particular characteristics. I've seen dudes compliment a girl and then not get with her. Her mind's already pretty well made-up before you open your mouth. I don't subscribe to magical pick-up lines that hypnotize women. There's nothing mystical or hard to understand about how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:09 PM
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The age at women are supposed to be their most fertile is about 24 years old. Coincidentally, this is about the age that the many women and fewer men who speak against age gap dating say that it is "okay" for older men to date even if it is "weird" for them to do so if said men are much older. Who gives a fuck about what older women have to say on the topic. OF COURSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE IT! Why do I give a fuck about what some woman in her thirties thinks on the topic? Of course she's goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:01 PM
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i don't see many women eager to break gender roles that'd require them to break a sweat. OUCH! one has yet to see examples of large amounts of women going for short feminine guys who break gender roles by acting feminine in front of women. i dont see many women who find their own antics attractive in a male, and even fewer would find their own height and face structure et cetera desirable in a male partner That's the truth right there.
/r/AllPillDebate21/06/23 01:14 PM
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women will still expect those traditional masculinity expectations from you no matter how unfair it is, so you can be the most avid feminist ally around the block, you can be super progressive and an ultra women respecter, but it all wont mean anything if you fail to be: confident, secure, leader, charismatic, strong, stoic and many more other traditional masculinity expectations that women wont even try to meet This is true. Don't listen to what they say. What a woman is saying to you doesn't m…
/r/AllPillDebate21/06/23 01:10 PM
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"yes, you're not going to get laid/find love, but not only should you not hate yourself, you should (and can) still actively pursue and ultimately can find at least some happiness in your life." That seems like a pretty smart approach to me. I always felt like the MGTOW gang were pretty sensible.
/r/AllPillDebate21/06/23 01:06 PM
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You should include some links to support these claims, e.g. "A case study shows, that three causes..." ...okay, where's the case study?
/r/AllPillDebate21/06/23 01:03 PM
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It doesn't get them interested. They're already interested. It gets them to go home with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:43 PM
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CMV Disagreement The problem with your view is that biology makes this an asymmetrical comparison that just doesn't work. Women have one egg and fertilization creates an automatic very lengthy, time-intensive commitment. Furthermore, the subconscious biological script present guides the show to seek sperm from a man who has the highest level of fitness and such indicators of reproductive success. There's no getting around this. Men, on the other hand, can pop and bail. It's in their best interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:31 AM
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Yes, I agree with how you put it. I think there are several fundamental foundational ideas to RP that I consider indisputably correct. That's like a 5 minute conversation. After that, a whole lot of grifting and bullshit. Additionally, all this stuff with "negging" never sat well with me. Not only don't I like the idea of it, I also don't think there's anything more effective than just a bold, complimentary approach. These idiots somehow think that if you tell a woman that she's beautiful...thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:09 AM
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The only men who do pick up well are those who are friendly and fun and actually enjoy women’s company in the same way they enjoy their friends. And those men are also aware that most of women’s experience with strangers trying pick up has been uncomfortable to negative and they don’t take offense if she isn’t receptive. I mostly agree with that. If you actually like women and your appearance is damn good, it will go well most of the time. I'd add that what they call "cold pick-up" really isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:10 PM
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So what this tells me is that you dont even groom yourself, keep fit or dress well on top of approaching socialization like youre on the verge of an arrest. Your impression couldn't be more wrong. You should be more careful with the assumptions you make. If you saw me you would feel like a tremendously stupid asshole for making that remark. In your comments, you detail how your interactions with women go. I asked you a few simple questions that you ignored. Let's try again: I'm presuming you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:59 PM
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I wouldnt say most guys arent cut out for it, because "it" is really just learning to socialize. Its not hard and is mostly just a matter of getting over anxiety and nervousness. I'm presuming you're in the USA. If not, what country are you in? What do you look like? How tall are you? What do you weigh? How's your grooming? What do you dress like? How does the majority of the world perceive your face? If you're honestly relaying your experiences in your comments, I already have the general answe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:43 PM
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That Youtube link is a great example showing most men aren't cut out for this shit. That's actually a great line there: "Something tells me I should talk to you." But, you can see he delivers it all wrong and does everything wrong. The way he says it sounds creepy. Then, when the woman asks, "Why?" he says, "you seem quite fun." What an idiot. He should have just made up something specific to her like, "Because I love your handbag and my sister's birthday's coming up, and when I saw you walking …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:23 AM
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Don't approach women in public transit, or in dark parking lots. I picked-up a very pretty woman on the NYC subway before. I was drunk, too, and basically I was just running some game, but back then I didn't think of it as running game, and I didn't even think of it as "pick-up"...it was just living. The only places where the right man should be hesitant are places like OP mentions: dark parking lots. If it's a place that seems dangerous, then you might be perceived as being a danger. It all rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:08 AM
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A higher SMV girl must exceed the pleasure of masturbation plus the time and expense of dating her to be worth dating. THIS is the formula. You should make a CMV about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:46 PM
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CMV Agreement posted under Auto-mod Men greatly over-complicate dating Yes, this is basically correct. In addition to the general societal confusion, there's also a grifting industry that makes a lot of money off this confusion. You know the cast of characters most likely. Here's my lesson: Improve your appearance. Don't act like a pussy. That'll be $350 for that lesson guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:09 AM
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CMV Agreement posted under Automod You are correct OP. General negative feelings towards an entire gender will fuck up not just your dating life...but, your life in general. Men should accept the general nature of women and learn to understand that it's necessary for them to be as they are...and, men should adapt themselves to succeed with women. That generally means, among other things, enhancing their masculinitiy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:49 AM
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your average modern woman cant carry that status, maybe only 20% of women can, the rest are bottom tier Very true! In the USA, I'd say more like perhaps 5%. what meaning does the opinion of some entitled narcissistic shallow opportunistic high n bpd crazy holds when she cant even meet the bare minimun of the standards I've wondered the same thing. If these were some tall, skinny, charming and witty beauties, that'd be one thing...but, enough said!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:22 AM
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Your post has a lot of good advice in it. I like this: But be clear with your intentions. You want her, sexually or romantically. Be clear with that. Tell her she's beautiful. Try strike up a conversation and leave with her number. Yes, I recommend this approach too. Talk to plenty of women. You will not be good at it, especially if you haven't had much practice. Yes, this will improve your life beyond just getting dates. I recommend that you start conversations with lots of people: including me…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:54 AM
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Yeah, fashion is a hobby. 3.5 million subscribers to r/makeupaddiction and not one is seeking men’s approval Heterosexual women generally find some particular men appealing. To suggest that many of these women are not fashioning themselves to appeal to those men is...sorry to say...crazy. It's somewhat surprising that this would even be a contentious point. Men want to believe that women only like a small percentage of men because it fits their belief that women’s standards are too high, when in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:27 PM
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But if a man is unsure if she wants his attention, the obvious answer is “no” I generally assume it's "yes." Rarely does this cause a problem. I'm extremely polite and subtle about things. I don’t think women are pretty on purpose What are your thoughts about the "beauty industry": make-up, fashion, diet industry, etc. It seems to me that there's something quite intentional going on. I think where most men go wrong is that women are fashioning themselves for a very small subset of men but the av…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:20 PM
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6'2" is taller than average. But it's not some crazy height that turns heads or gets people to say "wow you're tall". I'm 6'3" and my real life experience is different than what you're describing. I get comments fairly often and have for many years now. I do no live in a major city. I live in a minor city.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:17 PM
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He can fake it for awhile, but thanks to digesting manosphere horseshit, he’s convince that women’a bodies and personal attractiveness exist at him. If your brother has that type of appearance, it seems like unless his autistic condition just prevents imitation...or unless his temperament just can't be overcome because the anger or anxiety is uncontrollable...or, some other aspect is uncontrollable...there's a pattern that can be imitated. The appearance you describe will take you so fucking far…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:14 PM
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What are you basing this on? I'd be willing to be that unless this guy lives in a Scandinavian country he gets told he's tall by people in the real world very frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:41 PM
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And the Halo Effect means that being weird will often get reinterpreted into something nicer if you have physical attractiveness. That's been my life experience also. I'm not autistic or anything like that...but, I am kind of weird honestly: too talkative and just sort of all-around odd...and, that usually gets characterized as unique and charming, but I'm pretty sure if I looked different I wouldn't be so unique and charming and would instead be weird and creepy. Honestly, I recognize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:38 PM
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Life has shown me that looks take a man most of the way. But, yes..."a low-grade, seething rage barely concealed from others"...that would seem to be a deal breaker. If you have an appearance like his, you don't need to be a world-class bullshitter, but you still have to present yourself in a nonthreatening manner. So, obviously he's just not capable of presenting himself without the simmering rage and so forth? That's very interesting. He stares openly and appraises their faces, their hair, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:27 PM
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Even though I’m only mildly autistic it’s still an enormous bane; How so? If you look as you say, how is the autism a deal breaker in pick-up? I'm very curious about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:38 PM
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They were objectifying a lot of men there That's what women do. We're not supposed to talk about it.
/r/AllPillDebate18/06/23 07:22 AM
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How are you saying something significantly different than what I said? I say "worship" and you say "beauty standard."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:12 AM
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I'm curious as to what differentiates a modern man from a traditional one. So, if you're talking about two categories of contemporary men in the USA, the majority of both groups are overweight/obese pussies. I'm thinking that a traditional man doesn't fit in very much with modern norms. Sure they do. They completely fit into this society. Both categories do. They're not different from each other in a meaningful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:37 AM
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If you open up emotionally to your girlfriend/wife you fully deserve whatever she inevitably does with that information it will be used against you whenever it's convenient she will never look at you the same again I learned this the hard way myself. I wish it weren't the case, but it is what it is...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:23 AM
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Can you list some of the things that modern feminism has done which are a net positive for society? Easy divorce and abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:13 AM
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why don't we see more older women hooking up with younger guys? You're just not seeing it. It happens a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:06 AM
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But here's the thing, the more that you understand the base motivations of a woman, you lose the fantasy to be able to cherish a woman. You end up finding a woman is less and less special. I basically agree with this. I've come to understand that as a monolithic group women function the way they have to function. And, I also think it makes my life fun and interesting. But, if a woman just thinks you're great because of how you look...sure that's nothing really to complain about...but, I can't re…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:15 PM
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My view might be skewed because I personally have dealt with several very angry women throughout my life. I also previously thought there might be some overlap between members here and the charming XX gang. It would appear that's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:43 PM
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Did you enjoy it? That was fun. Hats off to whoever came up with that. I notice, on the whole, that women aren't as vicious as men during the purge. I think what I learned from the purge is that men are much angrier than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:09 AM
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Is it still ok? Yes. For purge week, it would be honest and appropriate to the spirit of purge week. Beautiful women express this type of attitude to short creepy men all the time anyway. Who the fuck are we kidding. Women routinely refer to men they find unattractive as creepy. Do women get to pick men they’re attracted to and disrespect those they aren’t? Yes, 100% during purge week. Purge week is about brutal honesty expressed in a very unfriendly way. Besides, I don't think there's anything …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:39 AM
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patriarchy DERP DERP What about when you enjoy roads and the infrastructure of civilization MUH CHUBBIEKWEEN! PURGE WEEK
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:08 PM
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Are you saying my real world experiences, my actual life work helping men get legal aid and what I’ve learn doing it is make believe? Asking a question in this manner illustrates your stupidity effectively. Your basic argument is that we live in an ideal world and men are treated fairly in divorce and family court proceedings. I'm saying that's not the case. We might just have to agree to disagree here dipshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:10 PM
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PURGE WEEK How is a woman who does t even know you exist going to he mad at you for not wanting her? Put down the donut baby and type with both hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:56 PM
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PURGE WEEK RULES --> That means I get to explicitly tell stupid bastards just how stupid they are... Read it again dipshit. Particularly when you're in the realm of Family Court, divorce court, anything to do with gender anything in court. I'm not just talking about divorces, though men routinely get fucked over there too despite all of your naive bullshit about black letter law, etc. Judges have discretion to do whatever the fuck they want IN THE REAL WORLD...you seem like such a stupid bastard…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:52 PM
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However, she made an exception for a 6'1" Chinese guy, and she don't date short white guys. Yes, exceptions will be made for the extreme outliers. Always. I was talking about that earlier. White women especially are prone to making those type of decisions for outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:40 PM
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PURGE WEEK But sure, judges just want to screw over men. I read your reply. The simple part you're missing is that in the real world, a Judge can do fucking anything! Fuck your naive notion about "black letter law." You sound like a man who hasn't had shit jammed in your mouth by REALITY. Then you'd know that your lawyer and the law and everything else doesn't matter. This legal system is SHIT by design. You can have your lawyer and the Judge and the other side actively working against you. It h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:35 PM
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PURGE WEEK RULES "You go Jabba!, go get yours!" I hear you on all counts. Jabba can go through life being Jabba DA KWEEN, and whatever...what kills me about Jabba, though, is that if I don't want Jabba, then I'm a superficial, no good son of a bitch. That's the part that kills me. former arena league football player. This guy was tall, handsome, jacked... and black as night. Some black men just go absolutely stupid for any piece of white meat...and, similar to how the Asian brainwashed retard ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:14 PM
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white women (and men) would have never dated outside their race because they dont have to. PURGE WEEK ---> THE END OF BULLSHIT Forget about dating. Who gives a fuck about dating? A man wants to shove his cock into a cunt. He don't give a fuck about dinner and a movie. We don't have statistics about what matters which is what's called one-night stands...but, I'm not even talking about one-night stands. I'm talking about fucking. I'm talking about pound the bitch on the kitchen table and get rid o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:17 PM
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PURGE WEEK Of course these asian dudes are usually 6"+ and very handsome. But handsome guys of all races always win. Moral of the story. Race doesnt matter . Being HOT is what matters That's the painful truth right there. But, to be fair...there aren't a lot of Asian dudes who are six foot plus and very handsome. What you say is true, though. White women aren't so much race-obsessed as they are "tall and handsome" obsessed. White women are obsessed with big cock. You're not supposed to say that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:00 PM
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PURGE WEEK How about...let's now have a discussion in REALITY. A man NEVER fucking knows how things will actually play out in court. And, any good lawyer tells a man that he NEVER fucking knows what a judge will do. That's how it actually works in the real fucking world. But, when I'm getting fucked over in court I'll be sure to show the Judge NothingOrAll's reddit comment and tell the asshole to reconsider because NothingOrAll says so! Fuck off NothingOrAll and stop acting like there's anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:41 PM
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PURGE WEEK Yeah, that Asian woman part gets me a lot. These white-man-obsessed Asian women are the biggest bunch of BRAINWASHED, skin-lightening cunts out there. The other group that kills me are these fat and disgusting white bitches who are totally lazy and constantly shoving food in their fat faces. That parts okay. If you're lazy and gluttonous, that's your business. BUT, don't demonize a man like myself for paying you NO ATTENTION! You disgust me. Your laziness disgusts me. Your gluttony di…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:30 PM
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PURGE WEEK A few things to add to the list: kill their babies, shove their pussy in men's faces at a strip club and juice middle-aged men, kill another baby legally without the father having any say "muh body MUH choice!"...um, you're killing a baby let's cut the bullshit, lie to the police and collect "child support for 19 years", act like total cunts everywhere they go....be all-around fat and disgusting "I'm a BBW KWEEN you patriarchal asshole!" OH, these young women are SUCH victims!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:20 PM
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off to 2X please
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:27 AM
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If they express their standards in any shape or form or wording, it is met with female vitriol and shaming. This is simply true. I'm not an "inkwell." I get all kinds of pussy. And, I just tell the truth. And, even if an extremely friendly, polite, handsome man just honestly states his visual preferences for women (e.g. in shape, toned, tall, feminine, etc.) he is met with INTENSE CONTEMPT for doing that. That's the way it is.
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 08:06 PM
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But trust and believe when I, a progressive myself in many regards, say this. If you are emotionally vulnerable in their presence, their pussies will dry up harder than the fucking Serengeti. And once again, this person had to find it out the hard way. OUCH! The brutality of the truth...oh, baby.
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 03:05 PM
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I think what can rile some men up is when they consistently observe women behaving in a way that differs from the typical and nice platitudes that they often hear repeated. I personally don't get riled up by this because I think women's general preferences of men are very sensible and necessary. I thank God that women select as they do because that's the only reason why we've made it this far as a species. "Don't listen to what they say. Watch what they do." This is a very useful saying for a ma…
/r/RedPillWomen13/06/23 06:50 AM
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Too much charm and you can never be sure he's genuine with you. That's definitely true. I don't like them overly-handsome I'm not quite sure what "overly-handsome" means. As you already know, in these type of gender discussions we can't avoid speaking in general terms. I feel confident saying that most women like very handsome men. There aren't many statements that I have a greater certainty about. See, you and I would differ vastly over what constitutes a high-value man. Although I do agree wit…
/r/RedPillWomen13/06/23 06:45 AM
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what looks like anger phase ranting That "anger ranting" was directly relevant to the question OP asked. "how are you defining HVM?" I normally don't use this acronym: I did in this case because OP used the term. It seems a bit disingenuous, though, to suggest we don't have an idea of what's meant by it. The short answer is that it's a man that a lot of women want. When a man goes into the world and always encounters women who want him...you can say, "There's a high value man." Why do a lot of w…
/r/RedPillWomen12/06/23 09:40 PM
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I feel so discouraged because all of the men I met just want to have sex with me upon the first or second time of meeting me, I feel so disrespected like I'm only hook up material but not wifey The legal system greatly disfavors men and creates a framework of laws that makes marriage a terribly stupid (and potentially emotionally devastating) option for a man: particularly when children are involved. I understand many people don't like hearing this, but you have to recognize reality for what it …
/r/RedPillWomen12/06/23 08:57 PM
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I just don't want my nerves / shyness to prevent me from giving the right person a chance. Yes, that's a tough one. I don't really know how to address that except to think that might be something to talk to somebody about.
/r/RedPillWomen11/06/23 08:20 PM
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As a man, it is extremely difficult when you're unable to do physical things that you normally did: such as mowing the lawn, carrying heavy things around, and just the endless array of miscellaneous tasks that arise which require a bit of muscle power to execute. Again this is not a real issue-I consider it an honor to take care of a man who basically rescued me and also treats my daughter like she’s his own. It’s his attitude towards it that’s the problem. I disagree. It's an extremely real iss…
/r/RedPillWomen11/06/23 08:01 AM
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I don't know how to date as an almost 30-year-old, virginal adult. If a man asks you out on a date and your visceral sense of him is good, go on the date. Let things unfold organically. What happens next depends oh how things are unfolding. A significant factor is if you have a visceral sense of trust. In other words, do you feel like you're dealing with a straight-up man. I think this is usually something you can perceive except in the rare cases where you're dealing with a straight-up player. …
/r/RedPillWomen11/06/23 07:35 AM
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I would recommend "looksmaxx" first. If you look good enough, most women won't give a fuck about your autism. Many will find the behavior charming. It won't be: "This good looking weird guy." It'll be: "This good looking guy...he's so unique and quirky! I love it!"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:19 AM
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Wow, fucked-up story.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:45 PM
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I have been "raped" too depending on the meaning people give to the word (more exactly a woman did me something sexual I explicitly asked not to do and did not stop when I told her to). I'm curious about what was done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:08 PM
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Inventing/using terms of whiny outrage just to indicate how offended someone is by their crush not fucking/dating them is pretty weak, tbh. Of course. A woman would never manipulate a man. Looks are a HUGELY important factor in a relationship. You got that part right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:02 PM
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Toxic yes…also exciting and fun. They can command a room. Other women want them. I feel like I’m winning a prize by getting their attention. Nice to finally find an honest response.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:35 AM
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I think part of it is that some of these toxic men also happen to have masculine energy. Yes, you're on the right track with this response. The OP isn't really framing this right. The right way to begin understanding this would be to ask, "Is there a bundle of other qualities that are generally also present with so-called 'toxic men'"? And, is there room to push back on this caricature that's called a "toxic man"? How is it that there's no working definition provided of what constitutes a "toxic…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:33 AM
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That toxic people exist? Duh. Fucking obviously. Just your way of responding is aggressive, unfriendly and interesting. You didn't answer the questions: Surely you were aware of their toxicity. If asked, would they say you are toxic? If so, how? Why did you keep ending up with one toxic guy after the next? Would they consider you toxic?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:28 AM
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Posted as a "child comment" response to Holden_Frame From Holden_Frame Yet something tells me you don't chime in about it with the vociferousness and righteous indignation you would when a guy says "I don't date fat chicks" And, from OP: If a man complains about only getting unnattractive obese women, he is immediately crucified. Yes, it's really interesting how a man these days is vilified if he won't date overweight or obese women. It's really fucked-up how they've made it so I am now a flawed…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:38 AM
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How do I help him learn how to do all these things, without him relying on me? How do I help guide this wonderful man to being a captain? It's not going to happen. Men certainly do evolve, of course, as they get older. But, I've never seen a man's fundamental disposition change. The 30 year old boyfriend who presently shows a resoluteness and leadership qualities...well, in some way, shape or form he was showing the same when he was 12. That's just the way it works. BF is very kind and overall a…
/r/RedPillWomen09/06/23 06:22 AM
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My advice to young men is to simply set aside your morals and pursue what you want in all areas of life NOW, regardless of what others think. Even if you fail you will not be left with as much regret as you would if you wait for the so called "right time" or "your prime". Life is not fair. Become better for yourself but if you see something you like or want to experience go for it NOW, don't wait. This is good advice. I might not say set aside all your morals, but I get your point. I'd also add …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:16 PM
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Chad starts in kindergarten. I get what you're saying. This is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:11 PM
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I know women are too picky because I know I’m a catch. I have an interesting life and am pretty successful. Really not bragging but just to press the point im worth a million, own a house outright, work a good paying job, am responsible af, have a dog and cool hobbies, people come to me for my opinion on a variety of subjects. I’m respected at work and by my neighbors.Im a bit socially awkward and my face isn’t the best but I’m 6’3 and not out of shape and reasonably active. Sorry, you're not su…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:30 PM
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A lot of guys don't understand how Ryan Gosling is attractive for example. I just saw a bunch of his pics on Google. Who the hell has a hard time understanding why women would like this guy? What the hell's not to like? I don't see how there could be any controversy about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:30 PM
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CMV Agreement posted under AutoMod So complaining about it is pointless and adapting to manipulate it to your advantage is more fruitful. 100% THIS. We as a species have made it this far despite the female nature and shouldn't female nature push a man to want to do better in life and be better than them? We've made it thus far because female nature is how it is. It has to be that way. And, yes...women push men to be better. This is getting subverted a bit via Feminism, but the basic principal is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:35 AM
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If you're reasonable looking, reasonably hygenic, mentally stable, able to hold a conversation without making a fool out of yourself and just talk to a lot of women, you'll get some action. You're presenting this baseline as if it's obtainable by all. There are plenty of people who have some variety of psychological issue. Lots of people aren't conversational. And, most men don't have the nerve to talk to a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:29 AM
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What does this guy look like? Height? Weight? Build? General level of attractiveness and charisma? These are relevant questions in respect to your post, and it's interesting there's no mention of them in your post or any of the comments thus far. Anyway, in respect to your general dilemma, despite this guy's good looks, he's obviously not the man that you're looking for...
/r/RedPillWomen07/06/23 02:30 PM
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I think you should believe what your actual real life experience has shown you. It seems like you're looking to be talked out of the very valid conclusions that life has shown you. Of course RP works for a man such as yourself. Why the hell wouldn't it? The basics of RP just make sense. Some men did the same for many years before now but it wasn't called Red Pill: it was simply called masculinity. Why wouldn't women be attracted to the fundamentals of masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:45 AM
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Where is the Automod on this post for agreement to be posted? I don't see it. Anyway, I don't agree with every statement in this post. For instance: "Most men are in relationships with women they’re actually attracted to. Most women are not." I don't know. I'm not sure about that. But, your title is correct: The way women behave with men they’re genuinely attracted to is very different compared to the way they behave with men that have merely grown on them. There's no doubt about that. That shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:25 AM
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So, compiling a list of current titles doesn't really refute my claim. Particularly as the passage you quoted says, "where women talk about men in the same totally disgusting and degrading ways." The place "where women talk about men" at the subreddit is in the comments: not the post titles. There is a lot of general negativity towards men in the comment threads. There are absolutely subs where women say disgusting shit about men Which ones did you have in mind? Curious to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:42 PM
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When you take an approach of dating lots of women, you're not blue-pill by definition. Blue pill is characterized by a fixation on one particular woman whom you regard to be "the one." Dating lots of women is referred to in RP as "spinning plates." I'm presuming when you say "dating-women-is-ridiculously-easy" you mean that you're actively dating a bunch of women: seems like a safe assumption if you're saying dating women is "easy."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:32 PM
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but I don’t see women speaking of men as subhuman They use the term "scrotes" as their proxy for subhuman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:24 PM
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So I am shocked women are toxic Men that figure this out are usually shocked at first. There's so much indoctrination to the contrary that men have a hard time believing it. Some refuse to ever believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:09 PM
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But I haven’t seen anywhere where women talk about men in the same totally disgusting and degrading ways that men in these communities talk about women https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:55 PM
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Your boyfriend is 100% encouraging her flirtatiousness.
/r/RedPillWomen05/06/23 05:06 AM
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When he didn’t have time to view a link I sent him I told myself he is doing his best. When his clothes were on the floor instead of in the laundry I told myself he is doing his best. When I had to say the same thing over three times before he heard me I told myself he is doing his best. MY GOD! You're such a saint! Clothes on the floor, him not immediately checking out a Youtube link...having to repeat yourself... HOW DO YOU ENDURE THIS HELL!
/r/RedPillWomen05/06/23 05:03 AM
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CMV Agreement posted under Automod You are completely correct. Women are quite capable of getting intensely horny based upon the appearance of a man: it's just that there aren't that many men that get their panties wet. Men, on the other hand, can get hard from the wind.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:27 PM
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The link you posted doesn't strengthen your case. It supports my position. I can scroll down the entire list and I see that there are just a few countries where 6 foot is the average height. That's what we call an outlier. As I originally said, the Netherlands is an outlier. Germany and Sweden are also outliers. That means they significantly differ from the overwhelming majority. Even still, 5'11.5 isn't all that tall. My point remains as not even a position but more a statement of fact: "And, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:06 PM
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Did you read my post ? As mentioned, tall is a relative term. The Netherlands is an outlier. A guy who's 6 feet tall is considered pretty tall just about everywhere in the fucking world with several exceptions. And, a man who's 6 foot 3, lean and handsome stands out everywhere in the world. Little semantic games and outlier examples don't make for a winning argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:50 PM
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Where you live affects your dating prospects. Yes, I agree. But, you want to argue that environment is the biggest factor. This is easy to disprove. A tall, lean handsome man will kill it anywhere. The number one factor will always be appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:37 AM
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I encourage men Is this all leading to another grift? What's with all this "I encourage men" business in every one of your comments. Who are all these men? When and where is all the "encouraging" happening? What's the context behind this "encouraging"? What type of situations organically inspire this "encouraging"? I'm very interested to hear more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:56 AM
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I went from helpless virgin to average to dating-women-is-ridiculously-easy all because I was super blue-pilled. No, you weren't super blue-pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:52 AM
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I've wondered the same thing. A middle-aged, out-of-shape married d-bag acting like he's some sort of Romeo. Gay pony tail, balding, squeaky voice douche acting like he's a pick-up artist... another fucking grifter.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 01:57 PM
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then you are entering her frame. Who gives a shit? I'm more interested in entering her vagina.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/23 06:41 PM
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never write anything to make anything leap forward. I'm writing it right here you shitter you... I also like the fact that you pre-suppose that everyone is american as usual Where did I do that? because your lack of knowledge show your inherent pre-requite retarded affirmation that this guy care about Trump You stupid bastard...you clearly don't read very well. I referenced Trump in respect to Heartiste. He was a guy who used to write RP material: probably before your time you noobie doobie... H…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/23 05:09 PM
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TRP went to shit after asktrp got deleted by cuck mods who wanted all the traffic to their site and eventually to their discord to get some joobux. Place is no longer a discussion board for men who actually have sex and relationships with girls. 100% THIS! TRP has absolutely gone to fucking shit! This subreddit is so stupid now. What about these dipshits trying to relate RP to 19th century philosophers and then linking to their "coaching services". What a bunch of bullshit! You remember when RP …
/r/TheRedPill01/06/23 04:11 PM
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Never ask a woman for advice on appearance What a strange fucking thing to say! I often say that THE ONLY advice a man should get from a woman is advice about his appearance.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/23 04:08 PM
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they clearly care intensely about their appearance Hi Idiot, they care about their appearance because...WHEN WOMEN LIKE HOW A MAN LOOKS THEY...that's right...FUCK HIM!
/r/TheRedPill01/06/23 04:05 PM
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Pizza man, you're a real presumptuous dipshit. anyone who understands their philosophy wouldn't be "transcending". For instance, "transcending" is a reference to a user here who posts field reports. I already said that, but...you're a dipshit! anyone who understands their philosophy Let's just be honest. You don't have the prerequisite IQ needed to read philosophy. This is what happens when guys like you attempt to read philosophy: all these idiotic posts. I saw the one idiot genius is going to …
/r/TheRedPill01/06/23 03:52 PM
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go read a book bro. Give it up pizza man. You have no idea of what I've read. You also don't seem to have much familiarity with this subreddit. "Transcending kids" is a reference to a young man who posts "field reports" here where he reiterates all the grifty RP bullshit he reads. His field reports and commentary illustrates the idiocy of you dipshits.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/23 02:32 PM
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Talk to a few 20yos and go ahead try to get them get laid with holding frame and hypergamy. I do talk to young men about their lives. Frame and hypergamy are RP fundamentals. As I said, "RP used to just be men helping men by explaining very simple principles." You and that other dipshit are shitting all over RP with a grift that involves trying to make it sound complicated with grifty bullshit about "neurotic postponement", Hegel, Lacanian Psychoanalysis, and other such unnecessary pontificating…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/23 02:18 PM
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TRP used to be extreme. Oh, bullshit. RP used to just be men helping men by explaining very simple principles. It worked before because it was new, exciting, and said the things that no one else dared to speak of. Oh, bullshit. I was there. Most of the ideas weren't actually that new or exciting. A lot of it was just common sense that all men used to instinctively understand 50 years ago. RP was just reminding men of the basics of masculinity that this more "modern" cultural crap was getting the…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/23 08:38 AM
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One time I read your report, and I left an overly critical remark. And, I felt bad about that and deleted it. What's cool about you is you're not on the couch. You actually are out there trying. You are starting conversations (what they call "cold approach"...I just call that being a normal man going through life). That's very good that you're starting conversations. That alone separates you from most. With all of that said, when I read your reports, it seems to me like you're too much in your h…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/23 06:56 PM
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That's fair. Just deleted it. I was trying to give something helpful, but you're right that I haven't lived that reality so I probably shouldn't give any suggestions.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 03:18 PM
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How does one break the ice with a woman they are interested in IRL? Go up to the woman, look directly into her eyes and say the first thing that comes to your mind. It really doesn't matter what you say. She will have you sized-up immediately and know whether she wants to talk to you or not. If you're a man that she's interested in, she'll see to it that the conversation keeps going. If she doesn't like what she sees, it's easy to tell because she won't keep the conversation going. You'll know i…
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 11:48 PM
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If you walk into a Walmart, what percentage of women working there do you think are dating doctors, lawyers, engineers, athletes etc? (DATING not sleeping with) The problem with this premise is that female beauty has such an incredible, fucking mind-destroying power in the USA that it's unlikely that a beautiful woman is going to be working at Walmart in the first place. Her beauty alone will provide better alternatives to that without her even seeking them out. Inb4: "I know a gorgeous woman wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:58 PM
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Bitter pill to swallow is that intimacy is a complex thing and 1. it's very hard to come by and 2. even if you get it, it will be temporary and 3. if you're not pounding some pussy, your mind can tell you that you want intimacy when in fact what you really need is to be pounding some pussy. I would recommend that you satisfy this desire for intimacy through close friendships in which you share your vulnerabilities. The painful truth is that you can't truly do this with women anyway. That truth h…
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 06:57 PM
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This got me thinking you know who else views women as fuck holes to be used, exploited and submitted to male will? We the Red Pill! Although RP has many nerds and grifters pontificating a bunch of bullshit, it is a praxeology. If a man believes, he can proceed as he wishes in any number of directions.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/23 06:46 PM
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If I were a 5'6" guy, I'll tell you what I'd do. I wouldn't off myself! I'm going to just tell you the truth about what I'd do. I'd get a Fleshlight and some porn subscriptions. I'd get a job and save some money. And, around every 2 or 3 weeks I'd go visit a sexy as fuck prostitute and get a massage and fuck. Honestly, it's not like having a girlfriend is any better than that. Truth is...having a girlfriend is worse and means putting up with a lot of bullshit for some dipshit who's probably over…
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 05:58 PM
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Women are not nice. Men are much nicer than women. I get his point. He's generalizing like this to get the point across, I imagine. Men do need to get this notion out of their heads that every woman they meet is automatically some type of virtuous angel. There are very few of those out there. Most women, like men, are superficial as fuck. The difference, though, is that women's superficiality is extremely narrow in scope. In other words, they're looking for a few specific things where men get tu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:36 PM
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Yes, kicking it out in the world with a tall woman is fucking great. You feel like a couple of giants stomping around. I remember in nyc I hooked up with this model that was skinny and 5'11" and I loved hanging out with her so much. Keeping a woman like that is challenging, though, but that's another story. I'd like to hook up with a woman that's 6', but that is just incredibly rare in the USA.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 05:49 AM
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Tall men usually have height preferences for taller women because they don’t want short kids. A tall man can also simply find tall women to be extraordinarily attractive. On very rare occasions I'll encounter a beautiful woman that's 5'10" or so, and I always just wish there were a lot more of them out there.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 05:41 AM
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i just feel more feminine and girly and safe with a taller man. You and just about every other woman out there. Many men don't understand that sexual attraction isn't a logical conversation that's open to debate. You get excited by particular characteristics. These guys want to tell you that you have a moral failing if you prefer Bill Skarsgård over Jason Alexander.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 05:29 AM
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i thought i’d ask if it was fair to ask if above average height women could want above average height men. I didn’t even say 6’0 and up only. Absolutely 100% fair. You're entitled to desire particular characteristics. Not a damn thing wrong with that! Nothing to be ashamed of...I like tall slender redheads with a pretty face, narrow waist and wide hips/fat ass. I LOVE THAT! And, I'm not ashamed of it!
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 05:24 AM
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Pick-up, though, is so much fucking easier at clubs.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 05:18 AM
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if I was one of the taller men in a group of strangers I'd get drawn into a conversation with a woman. Yes, this is how it works.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 05:17 AM
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6'3" without shoes
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 01:25 AM
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Yeah, it's a trip. The level of aggression is really intense too.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 01:24 AM
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Well, to me it sounds like you're putting a negative spin on things, but...that's okay: people look at these matters differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:58 AM
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Yes, there's no denying this.
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 11:55 PM
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Yeah, this just happened earlier today at the gym. Girl's giving me fuck me eyes all over the damn gym. She was fine too with tight fucking yoga pants. And, her boyfriend was there with her! He was just a bit taller than her. He was probably 5'8". And, she's doing the fuck me eyes to me. Then, I see her kissing the boyfriend. Women are fucking scandalous.
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 11:53 PM
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Females have a height radar. And they always scan the public area. If you are not matching to their height requirements. Ignored. It’s an unconscious filter they have which is why you are not being looked at. Yes, this is true. I've noticed this over the years. Height alone goes A LONG FUCKING WAY with women. I noticed this just last night when I was out at this restaurant in the outdoor area where there were also people just lingering around with drinks and talking. I was standing and talking t…
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 05:36 PM
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are you telling just because some has a sunny personality that all other things can be omitted? No, that's not what I'm saying. The world is as it is. Sexual attraction functions the way it has to. You can't expect women to evaluate men based upon how men evaluate other men. How could you expect it to work that way? Women like a tall, handsome and socially smooth dude. That's simply the way it is and the way it has to be. They got one egg which leads to a very lengthy commitment. Why the hell sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:23 PM
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So yeah, but how do we do it? That's what is generating so much content. No, it's not fluff. That it seems like fluff is the problem. It seems like fluff because it seems too simple. And, men will read it and think: this is just some simple little bit of fluff. That's the problem! The problem is the need to over complicate it. It is simple. This guy is right. He's saying exercise (improve your appearance), have goals, and be friendly, sociable, flirtatious. In other words, follow what your natur…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:44 PM
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CMV Agreement posted under Automod This is perhaps the best post I've seen on PPD. Cjaylyle, you are correct that women's attraction is not difficult to understand. I often say that men over complicate the hell out of women's attraction. Women's attraction is simple, and it makes sense. I don't see how it could be any other way. Your post puts an emphasis on natural masculinity and a competent sociability. Those things are fucking huge factors. Women can't help being pulled towards masculine ene…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:34 PM
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It often is dishonest. But, it does make sense. And, there is an extremely logical pattern to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:21 PM
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It just seems more and more that if you are any way positive, animated and "fun", you're in with a shout. If you a bit more reserved in body language and speech then you're background noise for many. Bottom line: Just smile, laugh, talk. Doesnt matter what you're saying or what its about, yah know, why would that matter? Right. Why shouldn't it be that way? Don't you think it makes sense that life works that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:10 PM
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CMV Disagreement Everything TRP states is true, but only for low-socio social circles Your premise is simply wrong. Forget about the grifters and their bullshit take on RP. The basics of it are improving your appearance, status, money and general demeanor. These things---particularly a fine appearance---appeal to ALL WOMEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:22 AM
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Their point is that men are creating these standards themselves and putting pressure on other men. I understand that. I get the point they're trying to make these days. And, it's very cute. The wackadoodle point is that toxic femininity is men's doing, and they're even going so far as to characterizing women acting like total assholes as being "toxic masculinity." It's incredibly cute. It's Orwellian actually. And, men are CALLING BULLSHIT on this insanity. The aesthetic standard of what women f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 02:54 AM
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Perhaps you should believe specific women when they tell you what they specifically like, because we are not all the same, and you haven't dated all of us. Yes, that's true. However, there are general tendencies that you experience over time, and it's sensible to make note of them. Anybody can say whatever the fuck they want...the overwhelming majority of women are going for a tall, lean and handsome man. You're not convincing me otherwise. I've fucking lived it. Spare me the "specific women" an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 10:30 PM
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You're right. My original comment could potentially be confusing. The basic idea is that women are not very candid about why they like particular men. I'm also saying that a desirable man can tell you that women are attracted by very superficial factors: mainly appearance. Women won't tell you the truth because they feel it reflects poorly on them. You suggest that I'm angry about this. Not at all. I've benefited from women's superficiality for many years. That's why I say with such confidence t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:34 PM
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I honestly don't understand your commentary. I read it three times. I don't understand what point you're trying to make. Even without understanding it, I doubt its cogency because I see you made this statement: Plenty of studies that dismiss this silly 6 ft. Yes, of course. Sure. Being over 6 feet tall is a significant factor in women's attraction. The gaslighting isn't working anymore. Men in large numbers are wising up to all the bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:13 PM
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You're mad that women are attracted to people? How did you arrive at that question from my comment? I'm not saying that at all. I have no anger about women's attraction. Why on earth would you say that? I think women's attraction works in a way that makes complete sense. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:07 PM
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but if you talk to most of the guys on here they want hyperfeminine, submissive, and agreeable. No. I think most of the guys here want a woman who's not an overweight obnoxious person. I think that's about the extent of what most men on here want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:11 PM
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I wish it were possible to downvote this more than once. This is the present trend: all the shitty and superficial tendencies that are innate to women's nature result from men. Oh, that's so cute! That's just so darling. George Orwell rides again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:08 PM
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I've never heard another woman talk about men this way. So what? Women never candidly talk about the inner workings of their psychology. Psychological processes are often determined by terribly superficial factors and they're idiosyncratic and embarrassing and even shameful. That's how humans function. One thing I can say is that if you're a man who women are naturally attracted to...in other words, for a man whom women like just generally speaking...in other words, when he goes out in the world…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:01 PM
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YES, now they are! 100%. This shit has gone full-blown CRAZY! They'll say, upon reflection, that this behavior happened because they've been warped by "toxic masculinity." A woman can't just be an asshole anymore!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:59 PM
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CMV Agreement posted under Automod One big reason for why PUA/RP exist and so many men are attracted to it is because that most women's expectations of male gender conformity is extremely toxic. It's not that they like masculinity or masculine traits, it's that what they think ARE masculine is warped and feels degrading. You are correct! There's now this new trend which is FUCKING CRAZY in Orwellian fashion where if a woman is acting like a complete asshole and calling a man a faggot and belittl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:56 PM
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Okay. I just don't much about how white guys do in Thailand and so forth. If what you're saying is accurate, then I should be seeing short neckbeard white guys with fine minority girls in the USA, and that's something that I don't see. So, I do think there's more to the equation---at least in the USA---than just race. Though, I'm not going to pretend like race isn't a big factor with USA dating and hook-ups. Those guys are capping about struggling with every race. What do they gain by lying abou…
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 06:52 AM
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Interesting question. I don't know. A lot of people act like the only characteristic necessary is being white. But, you can read all sorts of white guys (who describe themselves as average or below average) who report having trouble getting women of any race. If you're talking about a happening white dude...of course. That guy is going to do fine anywhere.
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 06:39 AM
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I agree. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. There are some beautiful dark skinned black guys that are absolutely killing it with some fine white girls. I see this in real life: particularly at the gym. One of my friends is in this category, and I personally have seen him repeatedly picking up HOT white girls at the gym.
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 04:51 AM
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It does say "what is your ideal cub and why." So, I sort of see what you're getting at. But, I still don't think you're making a valid point. ...does not mean the ONLY kind of guy she dated Sure, the man she described doesn't exist so there's not a chance it would be the only kind of guy she dated. The fact remains that her description of the ideal man is quite crazy: namely because that combination of qualities doesn't exist. And, the point you're attempting to make still doesn't take away from…
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 04:46 AM
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How do you square that, especially if you are living with these people and they are your own family members. Just try to get through the time period and leave that harmful situation when you are able to...
/r/AllPillDebate26/05/23 10:57 PM
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Very nice post. Tina understood how it works.
/r/AllPillDebate26/05/23 10:52 PM
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Explain to me the point this is making. This kid would pull better when he had the bushy head of hair.
/r/AllPillDebate26/05/23 10:46 PM
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I don't understand what you mean.
/r/AllPillDebate26/05/23 10:44 PM
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CMV Disagreement ALL heterosexual women LOVE attention from the select group of men that they want to notice them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:55 PM
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The part that kills me isn't that she's full of shit and simply wants to get pounded by a tall handsome bastard. That describes all women. They're all full of shit when it comes to discussing the men they want. What kills me is that she describes this motherfucker that's totally got it going on in every possible way AND he's supposed to also be submissive, shy and humble. THAT FUCKING KILLS ME!
/r/AllPillDebate26/05/23 04:21 PM
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I get your point. And, I'm not arguing that racism isn't a factor in everything. But, for instance, there are a couple straight-up beautiful Black men at my gym who FUCKING KILL IT! Like...KILL IT! I'm friends with these guys and they tell me about their lives, but I also see them in action picking-up women there...picking-up beautiful fucking women... So, I don't know...I think when you add a high level of looks and charisma that the formula goes out the fucking window. I think your premise app…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:15 PM
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I don't agree with the characterization of RP being tricks or schemes, however. It teaches you about what women want (which is often not what they say they want). I basically agree with this. As they say, it's a praxeology, meaning "the study of human action and conduct." In my opinion, it does have a lot of bad representatives. And, it's easy to attach a lot to it because it's not a formally articulated praxeology. It's more like a bunch of dudes pontificating online with varying underlying dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:16 AM
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This falls apart when you add an additional variable: beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:42 AM
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Women are SUPERFICIAL AF! Appearance is much more important to them than you think! Men do not care about appearance nearly as much as women do! DO NOT believe anyone who tells you otherwise! Women worship and go absolutely goofy for a tall and handsome man. They can't help it. They honestly CANNOT help it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:38 AM
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Please provide a real answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:32 AM
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were stunningly beautiful This is the sticking point for me with your commentary. This is where it all unravels. I doubt that your subjective interpretation of "stunningly beautiful" would line up with mine. I sincerely doubt it. I could picture the twice my salary part...the more "value" part is also prone to weird subjectivity on your part. Additionally, it's possible you're underestimating your own appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:30 AM
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I think overweight women have an advantage over overweight men. No doubt about that. But, overweight women themselves have often said that their own obesity doesn't make other obese people attractive to them. This makes sense, especially if she can still pull regular-sized dudes. Often true and always hilarious. The big gal, beautiful queens like our Sports Illustrated hottie don't want a fat guy either. It's also interesting how the whole body-shaming thing doesn't seem to apply to short, fat b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:19 PM
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Exactly what I was thinking. Not just exercise either...you think Taylor Lautner is getting $10 haircuts? You think he's getting his clothes at Target?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:10 PM
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CMV Mostly agree thus posted under Automod Of course that stuff works, but from my POV as somebody that hasn't done this yet, I can't imagine that any success from doing this is actually going to feel good or validating. I understand and agree with the basic point which your post acknowledges. People are so resistant to recognizing just how intensely women value a man's appearance. Why wouldn't they? How could it be any other way? But, people fucking hate to acknowledge that women, like men, are…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:31 PM
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Sexual relations are a physical activity, so it makes sense that your physique matters. This right here. People are so fucking resistant to accepting this simple and very sensible premise. Why shouldn't it be that way? Why shouldn't a woman prefer to get naked with a lean, handsome man? And, why are people so Goddamn surprised by this? Interesting culture we have here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:19 PM
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Yes, that is an outlier type of environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:13 PM
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As for the manner I try to find relationships, it’s been mostly dating apps which has been an L...Wouldn’t ever do irl approach in this current climate, way too risky imo. This is the reason. What are the risks of irl approach in Manhattan these days? I'm not saying you're wrong! I'm asking you to tell me the risks you're facing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:10 PM
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And I believe I am below average in terms of fitness in my demographic. What demographic would that be?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 07:46 AM
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Well, the NYC part is an exceptional factor...but, something about your comment isn't adding up for me. There must be something that's being left out here. I do notice you make no mention of the manner in which you're trying to find a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 07:45 AM
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And she's pretending with that forced smile that she can muster an ounce of sexual attraction for a man that looks pathetic next to a guy she's fucked just last week. But the guy from last week ain't buying no $300 dinner for one of the many women he's sleeping with. OUCH! It's a gross transactional arrangement that's more seedy and ultimately more sad than a hooker negotiating the price of a BJ in a back alley so she can get her injection drugs for the evening. OUCH AGAIN! The truth often has s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:51 AM
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You're proving my point, Actual P.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 11:17 PM
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Personality matters a lot also. But, it's your appearance that gets you in. This post is about how powerful an effect body fat has on your appearance. Don't be depressed. Most people are capable of losing weight. It's not that difficult really.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:40 PM
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Thats so depressing Why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:23 PM
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For many men: life begins once your bodyfat percentage is below 15% Very true!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:47 PM
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OUCH! painful sentence!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:42 PM
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A 5% change in body fat percentage, as little as 10lbs of fat, can be the difference between having chiseled features that women swoon over or being invisible. It's unusual that I just completely 100% absolutely agree with one of these CMV posts. Today is such a day. You nailed it. Before anyone decides for themselves that they are ugly, they should get their bodyfat percentage to an ideal range (8-15% for men) and see what their face actually looks like. It is remarkable...almost unbelievable j…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:36 PM
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Women always excitedly remark on how straightforward and bold I am these days. Years ago those same moves were pretty much considered standard cool guy maneuvers. I've experienced this also. I'm a bit older, and it's interesting for me to observe how timid young men are these days. As the lengthy post above explores, there are identifiable ways to explain this. But, in some ways...it even surprises me as I am somewhat older now...picking up women perhaps has never been easier. I've been advising…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:00 AM
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Yes, I see where there could be some humor there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:32 AM
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My point is you can date according to statistics or you can date according to jndividual compatibility. Okay. I've lost track of what point you're ultimately making. It started off with OP whose basic premise was that there are actually pretty narrow parameters concerning female sexual attraction. You excessively personalized the whole thing: ...men who think like that see my relationships as some sort of scientific data point instead of just two people trying to find out if they'd be compatible…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:30 AM
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CMV Agreement posted under Auto Mod Yes, I think you're onto something with your commentary: People establish a base line for average based on what they see on TV, but this leads to a warped way of thinking because the actors and actresses playing the DUFF friend or the nerdy sidekick are typically already at least average, or slightly above it. Indeed. I think the TV does skew our views about beauty. I'd say that's really inevitable. How couldn't it? With that said, I do think---data seems to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:15 PM
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Reading that hurt my brain a little bit. This is Purple Pill Debate: "a neutral community to discuss sex and gender issues." It's right in the ABOUT section what to expect here. Gender issues deals with a general type of analysis of men and women. It's more akin to sociology than the conception suggested in your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:09 PM
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it's hard not to be entertained by someone doing exactly the same thing as what they mocked before. Not to make too much out of this, but he called him a "massive hypocrite." People's perspective can change as they get older. That's how life often works. And, it's very often a good thing. If you get older and disavow previous views, that doesn't mean you're somehow a false, inauthentic person. It means you grew: which is what we're supposed to do here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:02 PM
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This is just hilarious to me for so many reasons. Besides Roosh being a massive hypocrite - which isn't that shocking Are you saying that a person isn't permitted to have a radical shift in perspective? If that's what you're saying, you would seem to be having a fundamental grievance with the human experience in and of itself. It happens sometimes. Sometimes life experience leads people to change their world view in a dramatic manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:54 PM
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AGREEMENT POSTED UNDER AUTOMOD Yes, Cjaylyle OP, you got it completely right. The parameters of what women, writ large, find attractive are quite narrow. There's room for a bit of variety within those narrow parameters (as you're suggesting), but those parameters, generally, are very damn narrow. It's mainly about looks and behavior...and women aren't very flexible with those things vis a vis attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:48 PM
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but I find it so fascinating that men who think like that see my relationships It's not as personal as you're portraying it. Nobody is concerned with your individual, specific relationship. Like, it blows my kind that you could think of a human being as anything less than an actual sentient individual capable of reason and ambitions beyond just dating an incel or a red piller. The conversations here aren't about individuals. They're about noticing trends, patterns, tendencies. Just because a 6'2…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:44 PM
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There is no such thing as a man being a underweight as her and it "being ok because they have a beautiful face". I don't think the comparison works. The prized attributes are different for men and women. Men have to hours in the gym to be as attractive as women who can just eat less. Yes, I get your point, but in my experience it's not that absolutely black and white. Just as with women, natural genetics is most of the equation. There are men who rarely step in the gym who kill it with women. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:10 AM
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Asian women are proof of how easy dating is for women. Short, skinny women like Ariana Grande Not the best example. Ariana Grande has a beautiful face. And when you look at interracial dating stats where around 40% of them date outside their face, it it clear society has come to a conclusion that Asian women are out of Asian men's league. Yes, there appears to be some truth to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:51 AM
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if That's a very big IF there. There are girls that are 5'2" and cute as hell and they can get most any man they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:17 AM
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but their good looks helped reinforce that pro social behavior...Good looking men are immensely privileged in dating. This is all very true. And, it's a good and underappreciated point about how looks cultivate and reinforce a smoother type of sociability. However I found the blackpill and that's starting to pull me in and is warping my opinion on things. It's not a healthy mindset but it makes so much more sense to me than this "holding frame" stuff. Yes, the basic blackpill---albeit a bit brut…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:15 AM
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All of that for one of these modern women? It's a hard sell, I know. This is the basic conclusion I've reached.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:08 AM
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I ran the same routine on her I had on everyone else Let's hear more about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:06 AM
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but I have no time for people who do nothing and then complain attractive women aren’t throwing themselves at them. There it is...if you think that getting an attractive woman is a worthwhile pursuit, put in the fucking effort that will get you one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:37 AM
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To me, the lucid dreaming part sounds cool. Concerning the tulpa part, I'd encourage men not do that. Why? This just doesn't sound like it'd be good for a person.
/r/AllPillDebate21/05/23 05:59 AM
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I need to speak to a woman in a Scenario where she is letting me have sex with her. That is why I continue this exhausting pursuit of women. Videos and discussions like this form what a woman is to me. As well as negative life experiences. Talking to them is meaningless unless they want to fuck you. There's some truth in a number of things you're saying, but I come away feeling that you're saying all of it too emphatically. You seem like you really want to fuck. That's natural. You're having som…
/r/AllPillDebate21/05/23 05:56 AM
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You can get your nut with your hand or an escort and you wouldn’t have to subject yourself to the horrors of dating. It doesn’t make sense that you would try to participate in something you abhor, cuz you’re disdain for it is gonna be really evident pretty quickly Must say I agree with this analysis. Is it really worth it for you? And, our deeper feelings do come out eventually. It's inevitable sooner or later.
/r/AllPillDebate21/05/23 05:51 AM
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Women can lie and say they want casual sex, but they don’t, they want love and adoration from men. This is an interesting statement and could be a CMV post in its own right. Concerning the rest of your post, it is intriguing, persuasive and a bit sad also. I don't think your very thoughtful comment necessarily negates the OP's original contention: "I regularly see women say on here that men overrate their own appearance, but women are guilty of this to a significantly higher degree." I think bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:44 PM
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Right, I think many people consider female sexual desire to somehow be more complex than men's desire. I don't think it's identical, but I do think there are some significant similarities. If a dude finds a lean blonde woman with a beautiful face and big tits who's willing to have a one night stand, nobody's sitting around baffled by trying to understand his motivation or speculating about his level of self esteem. It's not that mysterious. I think women aren't that damn much different in this r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:38 PM
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but the women there must have a very low self esteem No, you're making too much out of this. They want to get fucked by a handsome dude. The end. That's all it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:52 PM
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He was so “traditionally” attractive I actually didn’t feel like he was a threat What do you mean by this? including my colleague, a married woman Did she in any way justify herself to you? Did any of the women defend their behavior in some way to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:23 PM
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People should be able to be friends with both genders I'd like it if that were the case. However, life just doesn't really work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:45 PM
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You're right. They're not either. However, it does seem like women are generally pickier about the physical characteristics of their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:43 PM
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I'm impressed with the systematic approach in this post. With that said, a response to this has a danger of running 50,000 words. Your general point is correct that there is hypocrisy among some men. The qualifier "some" is doing a lot of work in your post, though. We could also say that there are lots of men who don't believe those things. For instance: "You're ugly" to some women who aren't wearing makeup. Yes, I'm told that there are some men who say things like that. Well, commenting on appe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:37 AM
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CMV Disagreement Some of your post might have some truth, but you're not the one to be making the argument. You say: I am tall, attractive, wealthy and socially confident... Well, you're already checking quite a few boxes there. And, it doesn't sound like you're really using anything particularly involved from "PUA tactics." It simply sounds like you're being more aggressive. Shit, you don't need to study PUA to figure out that an aggressive sort of confidence is a prerequisite for this stuff. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:13 AM
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Early RP has direct ties to the seduction and PUA community so miss me with your holier-than-thou bullshit. This is true from my memory also. My impression was that the message was always better than the messengers. Concerning the ties, this was inevitable and such an understandable origin for it. It would be impossible for people to be thinking about pick-up and not arrive at RP conclusions. To my way of thinking, that's the origin source of the whole thing because at root it's making an attemp…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:16 AM
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It social media that attracts people then they do whatever they can to get views and part of that is tapping into young men's rage who haven't had the best luck with women Yes, that's basically a pretty good summary there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:15 AM
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CMV Disagreement RP has always been correct in analysis but stupid in presentation: going all the way back to that Mystery fucking 100% ass clown. The basics of RP are both simple and really indisputably correct. A big problem with RP is that there's always been far too much fucking pontificating around the whole thing. The basic premise was a simple, general analysis of women which was necessary to deprogram men from the overwhelming "women are wonderful" gaslighting that we all got brainwashed…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:13 PM
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With the way women in the USA eat these days: very fitting example!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:33 PM
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I don't have any stats concerning this. It's just a gut feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:04 PM
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Because most people want to be wanted. Yes, that's insightful. However, there are also a lot of men out there who don't care if the desire is real or not. You see this especially among men with a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 11:58 PM
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they want cheat codes for women. Those exist. And, they're quite simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:14 PM
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CMV Disagreement NEVER should a man get dating advice from women. EVER! Is it even necessary to defend that? Of course it is...this is Reddit. How many women will say, "First things first, let's figure out how to get your appearance as good as we can possibly get it because women are superficial AF." Okay, if there's women out there saying that: sure, listen to them! Thing is...not many women are going to tell you that. How many women are then going to say, "Next, we're going to figure out how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:09 PM
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Big problem for men in the USA is the gaslighting that women aren't highly sexual and that they're all about finding a nice guy with a great personality blah blah blah. So, we've output the latest generations of adult men who somehow have a hard time believing that most women are totally down for some hard, rowdy and raucous fucking. Weird society we've got going here. I swear every time I take things slow I get rejected after 3ish dates. Yet if good sex happens, they want sex again and then I g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:02 PM
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CMV Disagreement What's always interesting about this perspective is you want to ask the obvious: How do these women think this world came into existence? Minor little things like buildings and roads and cars and refrigerators and grocery stores stocked with food plus cookies and courthouses and beds and ceilings and microwaves and McDonalds and laptops and... They always sort of presume that you could remove men from the equation and somehow, magically, we'd still have an interstate highway sys…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:49 PM
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guys who get no women chasing them don't understand that this even happens, so they just go with whatever society says about men and women are like. Yes, you're definitely on to something with your post. The part I quoted above is particularly correct. This is something that I find myself thinking about sometimes. The best way a regular dude could get insight into what women are really like would be to just follow a handsome dude around for a day and observe his interactions with women. I'm not …
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 01:52 PM
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The shortest answer would be any type of "pill" means you have a man rejecting villain status and analyzing his situation as a man. They know that it won't be long before some of the blame is shifting to women.
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 01:45 PM
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Yeah, I hear you. There's these very obvious things about life and if you just recognize them people want to say that you're a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:36 AM
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Yes, of course they're not going to like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:57 PM
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The Red Pill perspective will always be reacted to with hostility (particularly by women) because it contradicts the prevailing view that women are different and better than men. The prevailing view is that "men are dogs" and terribly superficial while women are much more interested in things like personality and conversation. RP says a lot of things, but one of the primary messages is calling bullshit on that and saying, "No! Women are all about either 1. short term hook-ups based mainly upon a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:47 PM
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At least thats my impression of it. Your impression is wrong. I don't particularly like the RP "community" but they're certainly not defeatist. You might actually say they're the opposite of defeatist. Their main message is to accept things and adapt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:41 PM
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CMV Agreement posted under Automod: because you got it right in the title (though the analysis is a bit off) Men would be alot less frustrated in the dating effort if they were given brutally honest and often politically incorrect truths about what most women expect from a man. Yes, the statement in your title is correct. In the USA it's nonstop gaslighting so men won't realize that women---just like men---are very fucking superficial when it comes to attraction. Here's the main gaslighting: "Ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:39 PM
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What if the girl isnt naturally trusting? She'll see through it and figure that it's all an act. But, sometimes that doesn't matter because it's fun regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:42 AM
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Has a woman ever exposed you to your flaws? Are you kidding? I think a better question would be have you ever been involved with a woman who hasn't at some point enjoyed explaining your flaws to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:04 AM
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When Rahim?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:20 AM
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Most red pill stuff is common sense. THIS. People make way too much out of RP pontificating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:30 PM
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CMV Disagreement I basically dislike your entire post, the way you express the ideas, the terminology you use, and how you're portraying women as trying to sniff out a "red pill man." I don't think the world really works that way. This is what I've learned about this general topic. If you're talking about a truly charismatic man, women usually don't think, "I'm interacting with a truly charismatic and charming man here! He's probably mostly full of shit." They'll think something more like, "I li…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:27 PM
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I'm from a western European country and I suspect randomly approaching in public may be less common in Europe than in the USA Ah, okay! So, that's what it is. Is that in the USA? Yes. I made the common mistake idiots like myself make in presuming you were based in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:11 PM
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I think it is normal not to get approached by random strangers (because I don't see people around me doing that in my area) The women I know get bothered by men almost nonstop. I honestly don't care and am just glad that I don't get approached, so you don't have to worry about me. :) I'm not particularly worried. I'm mainly a curious person. I'm already married so I don't care about male attention anyway. Sure, I get that. He is the only man who has kind of approached me, but not as a random str…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:52 PM
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I'm just introverted and shy. I don't like to be randomly approached by strangers. So maybe men can feel that? That may be it. I suspect there's something going on here that's not being said...that, it would appear, you don't even realize. Where would it be normal to get approached as a woman, do you think? Pretty much anywhere in public: library, gym, grocery store, gas station, mall, work, where ever. Mid twenties. And no, I am not overweight and I think I am not particular ugly. You should be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:27 PM
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CMV Disagreement The only thing on your list that's a make-or-break variable is this: threshold of physical attractiveness Men, on the whole, underestimate their level of attractiveness. Thus, they don't try to improve. Major mistake. Yes, I do agree that women tend to overestimate themselves in this. But, are they overestimating or do they just understand how the game works better than men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 08:31 PM
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You can look at a glass as being half-full or half-empty and neither person is necessarily wrong. I don't look at this situation in a pejorative sort of way, e.g. "slut vibes." Human beings have sexuality. If expressing this makes you a "slut" ...okay. I think it's a sign of normalcy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 08:07 PM
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Okay, I can accept that. But, you're really just substituting the (judgmental sounding) expression "slut vibes" for very conventional and normal nonverbal communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 08:01 PM
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lol. These LARPer phonies are easy to spot. Like this guy for instance says this: Then there are the girls who I’m just not attracted to at all. I can tell when they are coming on strong and I act aloof like I don’t understand or pretend like I didn’t notice it. If we do talk a lot, I’m overwhelmingly polite and act more awkward and undesirable so that they lose attraction to me. For example, disclosing weaknesses and acting emotional and talking in a higher pitch so that they lose attraction. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 07:58 PM
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I am not overweight and I think I am not particular ugly. That wouldn't be the reason anyway. Overweight and less attractive women get approach too. Sometimes more so because they're less intimidating. No make-up. That doesn't matter. There's more going on here than you realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 07:45 PM
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Any other possible explanation? I ask that because there are a lot of women who don't give off "slut vibes" who get hit on constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 07:43 PM
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Some women also REALLY hate admitting that they care about looks. In my experience, it's rare to encounter a woman who will say that the #1 factor for her is appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:32 PM
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THIS is the one!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 07:51 AM
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If men already look the part, cold approaching is not needed anymore, as they will meet women naturally just by existing. Yes, very well put. That's what I was getting at. I don't go for any of this stuff about "negging" and "cold approach" and "warm approach" or any of it. Just exist and be cool, friendly and conversational: the rest falls naturally into place. Most men, however, will just never have the looks. It’s not like getting a shower and a haircut is enough. There’s no solution for bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 07:30 AM
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Short version of my answer to this post which is NOT a CMV post as it's originally being posted. I'd say if the man makes the necessary improvements to his appearance and general sociability and demeanor, then absolutely he should be cold approaching women who are more or less in his league. (I wouldn't really think of it, though, as "cold approaching"...I don't really like that expression). THE PROBLEM, though, is that most men aren't doing any of those things. They're not making themselves int…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:11 AM
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He doesn't find obese women beautiful. He must be high, senile and just generally out of his mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:31 AM
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So, saying that an overweight/obese woman isn't beautiful is considered bigotry now? What a fucking stupid explanation for this druggies’ bigotry. Just a garden variety ad hominem. Is that the best you can do? Not very impressive. Try to refute the argument not the person. If you're going to use the expression "stupid" it would be expected that you provide an intelligent response.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 03:22 AM
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A benzo addicted drug addict is the last person Just a garden variety ad hominem. Is that the best you can do? Not very impressive. Try to refute the argument not the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 03:20 AM
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Should a 145 IQ girl "submit" herself to a 110 IQ guy because of his alpha characteristics? Do these alpha characteristics really matter as much in navigating a complex, information age world as abstract reasoning ability? It's not really a question of whether she should or not. The bottom line is that it wouldn't work...but more relevant, the coupling wouldn't organically develop in the first place. Do these alpha characteristics really matter All this "alpha" talk has gotten pretty old. It's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:59 AM
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Sports illustrated has been a very body positive magazine for a long while and has been known to celebrate all types of different bodies. Okay. Honestly, I don't have any real expertise about the Sports Illustrated ethos, so to speak. Nor do I know its history very well. I do, though, think it's harmful to use the expression "body positive" in respect to conditions that decrease someone's life span and general physical well being along with increasing the likelihood of various diseases. I unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:44 AM
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Ouch. There are women out there like that cashier but not every woman out there is as vicious as her.
/r/AllPillDebate13/05/23 11:29 PM
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Recognizing the truth would change people's fundamental orientation and disposition while engaging in debate and argumentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:53 PM
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That woman is beautiful What happens to your statement if somebody says she's not beautiful. You just repeat that she is beautiful. As I said in my comment, I think it was stupid for him to post those messages on Twitter. I'd even say that it indicates some fucked-up things about him as a human being. But, that doesn't mean he's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:48 PM
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CMV posted under Automod because of partial agreement These CMV lately are getting a bit complex because I'm finding partial agreement to many of them, which raises the issue of where to post the response. I strongly agree with the first part, so I'm doing Automod. You get one life. Why would a woman commit herself to one guy for decades, unless he is impressive and offers her a lot? Yes, easy agreement with this. I think this position is so solid it doesn't really require much discussion. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:43 PM
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Imagine if someone famous insulted his daughter for the world to see if she appeared on a magazine It's a bit more complicated than that. You can still argue that he's wrong for that tweet, but it is a bit more complicated. When the very overweight Yumi Nu was put on the cover of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit 2022 in a one-piece bathing suit; Sports Illustrated is very much making a statement about beauty. There's no denying that. They're saying something that is relatively novel: that this fat wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:33 PM
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CMV Disagreement The mockery directed toward's peterson's crying on live Tv is proof of women's loathing of weak emotional men. I mostly agree with your basic premise in a more subdued form. Women, as a whole, don't like weak, emotional men. However, JP crying and the subsequent reaction doesn't prove that toned-down version of your premise. There are a lot of women who already don't like him. So, they're going to attack anything he does or says. It's like if Donald Trump or Joe Biden or any fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:12 PM
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I’ve been around RP for many many years. I was there when Men Going Their Own Way MGTOW was an interesting strategy, instead of being associated with the anger/incel community that it’s associated with now. I remember that as well. It's very interesting how such a simple approach to life...well, it's interesting, first of all, that the MGTOW subreddit was outright banned! And, it's also interesting how the whole thing was demonized. But, I think it's very telling also.
/r/RedPillWomen13/05/23 04:08 PM
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Red Pill Men (new angry ones, that say the word “alpha” out loud) don’t make me feel empowered. They actually make me feel fiesty, lustful, and competitive. That's because those guys are fake: they're just trying to play a role. They're actors...and, generally very bad actors.
/r/RedPillWomen13/05/23 04:05 PM
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One thing I'm curious about, what do you mean by "built my squad"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:28 AM
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I also said "between" because we use a metric system in our country and I don't know whether I have to round it up or down when it comes to imperial. Ah, I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:22 AM
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I feel you and appreciate your encouragement! I'm 6'3" myself, and I'm doing okay already, but thank you and best wishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:19 AM
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I'm between 5'10 and 5'11 You're not a "manlet" necessarily, but one sure way to know a man doesn't feel like a tall man is when he tells his height not as a single figure (e.g. I'm 6'4") and instead does the between this and this or I'm 5 foot nine and a half inches type of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:45 AM
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I guess in your world a short guy just cant possible get a hot girl. Yes, that can happen. And, short dudes obviously get into relationships. But, it doesn't help anybody not to acknowledge that height is a huge factor in attraction for most women presently. And, furthermore, height makes the prospect of getting a "hot girl" more likely generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:42 AM
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This is where it gets silly. The better question is name a single thing in your life that a man didn't have something to do with bringing into existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:36 AM
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That an insane thing to believe. How do they think the "modern world" came into existence in the first place? How do they think it remains in existence?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:35 AM
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CMV Agreement posted under Automod Men are being taught to play games like women instead of becoming better men. Sad. 100% fucking agreement. Enough with confusing young men with all these acronyms and Goddamn lingo and bullshit. I saw this kid posting a "field report" about how he fucked-up and he's talking all this lingo and analysis and acronyms and thoughts about PUA videos and just all this unnecessary shit. And, for what...to just fuck things up anyway. He would have been better off if he …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 09:10 PM
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so unless I'm 100% sure I'm not taking that risk. That's an option but it will lead to a pretty boring life. If you see someone constantly fidgeting, giving off closed body language by folding their arms, glances over like prey scoping out a predator, and just giving nervous little smiles back, how is that different from discomfort? That's your interpretation of what you're seeing. I'd love to see a video demonstration of this. Don't over read all this stuff about "closed body language" etc. One…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:56 PM
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If women really liked you they would give you signals to approach or approach you. The first option almost always. If you’re not being approached or you’re not getting signals you’re not attractive. True. A man should not approach unless he’s given signals or the woman just approached him. True for most men, but not every man. And, there's nothing saying you can't just be friendly with everybody: putting aside all the pick-up, approaching stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:50 PM
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How come women look the same when expressing discomfort and when expressing attraction is more the question? It's hard to believe that a man could see the world in this way. But, in good faith, I'll presume you're being sincere here. The answer is that it doesn't look the same. It's not even close to being the same. It's so obviously not the same. I don't know what else to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:47 PM
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The blackpill isn't supposed to be anything. Unlike the redpill, the blackpill is descriptive not prescriptive. This is my thought exactly because what OP says is really a rather Red Pill perspective. I'm pretty familiar with the RP way of looking at life. I think blackpill...and, I'm not an expert about it...just started reading about it recently...but, I think it's simply saying: HEY STUPID, looks are VERY IMPORTANT to women. In fact, how you look is almost the game in its entirety. PERIOD. Th…
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 05:47 PM
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CMV Disagreement I think the biggest problem in dating is that women are simply not honest about what they are attracted to No, the biggest problem is that men believe it. Men also often aren't honest about what they're attracted to either. And, they're often not honest about their singularity of intention: that their main interest is sexual. This is a very much a two way street. It's not really the problem. The problem is that men believe the bullshit. There aren't many men or women who are goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:12 PM
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The advice WORKS assuming you have enough social skills and a bit of charisma and a bit of self respect for yourself, that AND an active social life. This really illustrates the point better than anything why men shouldn't be getting "advice" from women. After the list of "assuming you have" is over, not much advice is fucking needed! In other words, the advice should be ABOUT how to have "enough social skills and a bit of charisma and a bit of self respect for yourself, that AND an active socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:00 PM
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A few things in response. There's the issue of neuroplasticity, which is a complicated topic in its own right and probably too much for here. Additionally, I won't pretend like it's my expertise. But, my basic position is that growing up with a strong role model can prevent or lessen a lot of psychological (and faulty cognitive patterns) from developing in the first place. Just as having a shitty dad can be the cause of them in your adult life. The way a good dad (or strong male role model...wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:27 PM
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men's proximity makes women's lives better, and women know it. You're damn right about that. And, it can be stated a lot more strongly than you did. And, more people need to start telling the truth about this. Men's proximity is why they're driving in an air-conditioned car to an air-conditioned building rather than living in a boma and shitting in a field.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:15 PM
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Yes, I think you're basically right. I'm not going to say 100%. But, I think you are mostly correct. It's like when I was 20 years old. I had a lot of problems and was already an alcoholic. I was raised by my dad who was an angry fucking alcoholic himself. One day, my dad's telling me how I'm a fucked-up guy with a drinking problem...it's like: Yeah, no shit. I was raised by you. What do you expect? So, I get that... The real question and discussion comes down to what you think about volition an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:49 PM
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I have on several occasions out of curiousity. And, I have a very particular impression of it. What impression do you feel I should have gotten from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:40 AM
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A strong male role model doesn’t make you better looking or neurotypical. Actually, a strong male role model can have a considerable influence on both of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:34 AM
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CMV Agreement (or at least partial agreement) posted under AutoMod The bad attitude is a response to poor treatment and that poor treatment is usually because of insufficiently attractive physical and psychological genetics. Yes, this should really be a fairly uncontroversial statement. I wouldn't state it as an absolute rule. It doesn't have to be the case. You will encounter people who have had shitty lives who transcend the whole thing...where, it's actually the bad experiences that make them…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:16 AM
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Yes, this is very often the case. Not always, of course. Some can be very cool and friendly. But, it's certainly not unusual to meet an unattractive woman with a really shitty attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:01 AM
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I basically agree with your analysis. He's definitely capable of improving his appearance quite a bit. It's somewhat difficult to say before the person loses the weight. You know they're going to look better. But, it's very difficult---perhaps impossible---to predict what the face will look like after significant weight loss. It always looks better, of course. You can't say how much better, though, until you actually see it.
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 03:51 AM
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Dumbasses can be confident. This is true. But, I don't see what larger point you're making.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:48 AM
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he got lots of female attention and girls interested in him without even changing after he got some internet fame Yes, I can picture that. A little status can go a long way with some women. He's not the poster boy for incels you guys think he is I didn't know anything about him before I saw the video today.
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 02:36 AM
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how hopelessly superficial the person you're currently with is That's almost always the case. However, I do agree that it's silly that he doesn't aspire to better himself physically for his health It'd be interesting to see the difference. When I watch a video like that one I wonder if I'm listening to a guy who gave up without trying. I know from my own life, I looked like fucking shit when I was overweight, chubby-faced and skinny fat. And, I know that losing 25 or 30 pounds can make a surpris…
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 01:03 AM
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if what you said was true we wouldn't have attractive women consistently saying they never get approached because men are too intimidated. This is true. I've told men I know this before. If any man is just willing to walk up to a beautiful woman, look her dead in the eyes and say something, she will almost always immediately have a bit of respect for him...particularly if he crosses the basic looks threshold. I do this when I'm bored sometimes. Just keep staring her in the eyes as you're talking…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:47 AM
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You can have both, looks and personality. The truth is that in many cases it's beautiful women who have much more appealing, cheerful and enchanting personalities. Not always the case! But, often the case! Beautiful women have plenty of reason to feel good about being alive. They tend to be treated quite well by society at large. They ought to have a happy disposition. Let's not act like every unattractive woman has some sparkling personality. Let's be honest. They often have pretty shitty dispo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:42 AM
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The truth about girls/women and appearance first became apparent to me probably in 2nd or 3rd grade. And, as I got older, life just reinforced it. I just took it to be an obvious truth that benefited me in ways that were very unfair, but hey...not going to complain. As I got older and was around 14 and the beautiful fucking blonde girl just liked me...and, she wasn't just beautiful...she was just fucking wonderful in every possible way, and I was cuckoo for her... Well, why does she like me? Why…
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 12:29 AM
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I think he's one of those unlucky dudes that just has a fat, bloated face. That's a tough one to be dealt right there.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 11:57 PM
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You dig? I do. To my mind, what you say in your comment above is in basic agreement with what I say in my original post. The analysis of how you and your brother succeed with women is really support for the point of view that I originally stated: discussing the elemental importance of appearance and behavior. It's not a formula where a man has to be equally 50/50. I notice you didn't provide an example of a third brother who has neither looks nor game but still kills it with women. This all real…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:32 PM
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Well, there's a danger of leaving something important out. And, you're free to explain the flaws and what's being left out. The advantage of simplifying things is it can provide an easily actionable plan. In other words, improving appearance and sociability is extremely beneficial for a man in a lot of ways beyond just pick-up. Is it a simple little plan? Sure, it is...but, that doesn't mean it's not worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:52 PM
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I think Eggy's analysis about the primacy of appearance is correct. It's interesting that this is even a controversial opinion. But, that tells us a lot about our society. I had a post on Purple Pill about this. My position is that...yes, of course women are superficial as fuck and very looks-oriented. There's just no way to deny that. I also don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, but that's a long tangent. But, what I'm wondering... ...are there examples of Black Pillers who sort of test t…
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 09:42 PM
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That's the kind of discussion I come to PPD for. Thanks, man. You're very welcome. Best of luck to you. Well, you suggest dissecting this, which kinda is overthinking. Ha ha. Yea. I've found it worthwhile to try and figure out why I am the way I am...just, generally speaking. choosing the thing to say (not easy for me), saying something as a follow-up (not easy too), I know I've repeated this a lot, but I usually just say the first thing I think of and that seems to work out okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:01 PM
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I sort of saw that coming, but I made that comment because it was my honest response. So you openly admit that dating has changed significantly and that your advice and experience is largely out of touch and no longer relevant. My initial thoughts didn't really concern "dating." Thus, it's actually your comment above that's irrelevant. My post is not titled, "Dating advice for 2023." It's titled: "Men overthink everything when it comes to getting women." My post is about pick-up. The main thrust…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:20 PM
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Yes, you raised a good point there. Dating has changed a lot these days. I'm not in my prime anymore. When I was, things were a bit different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:56 PM
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Looking good enough is a complicated process that tends to require undoing a lot of gaslighting social programming. You change your approach to eating. You exercise and get LEAN. You get a good haircut. You develop a bit of a fashion sense. What does gaslighting have to do with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:53 PM
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Yes, you are correct. That is the worst possibility. I don't know if a conviction would be guaranteed, but that situation would certainly fuck-up the guy's life and result in some sleepless nights and a lot of stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:40 PM
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The analogy means that some people (like me) struggle in certain social situations. It feels like you live an otherwise normal life, do an ordinary thing (talk to a woman), do it like other people (just talk about something), but it does not result in the same outcome (women show no interest). As far as women showing no interest, I experience that too: especially now that I'm older. Honestly, I think this is something that virtually every man of any age experiences sometimes. But, okay...so what…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:15 PM
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As for looks, my point is sometimes your ceiling may be so low that it's not that useful to reach it. I knew a guy who is 4'11''. Whatever he does won't help him that much. As for less extreme cases, yes, one should do something. Yes, I agree with you. For a lot of outliers, things are just going to be very difficult no matter what, it would seem. In my original remarks, I was sort of envisioning a much more "average" type of individual: like someone who's 5'9" and 20 pounds overweight (or somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:37 PM
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too often that feels like a little too obvious and forced though Not if you do it right. What does that mean? You just say whatever the hell comes into your mind in that instant. I like your hair, this might sound weird but I'm wondering what shampoo you use, I like your earrings, you seem fucking cool... whatever, just say something it really doesn't matter what you say. Don't overthink it. Just say SOMETHING. Then, what you say next depends on her response. And, suddenly you're now in a conver…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:18 AM
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But I'm probably overthinking it. You told this tale very briefly but you very well may be overthinking it. You were dating a woman and she asked you over to HER HOUSE FOR DINNER. Bam, right there that tells you everything you need to know. You should have 100% tried to kiss her to see what would happen. What's the very worst that could have happened? She rebuffs you and says, "I told you nothing's going to happen!" You say, "Hey, I'm a man...you're beautiful...you can't blame me for trying." As…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:12 AM
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But solutions are not as simple as you think, in my opinion. Everyone has some kind of a ceiling of looks, which will limit dating experiences for many people. It is debatable, but I think, a man needs to be really extremely handsome to have an interesting dating life.... But looks are at least manageable in comparison to skills of talking to women. Probably it’s hard to believe for you, but you can be a normal person, but have difficulties in this specific area. Well, I think the sort of tldr i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:45 AM
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it's because I think she's attractive in some way. But that isn't a basis on which to start a conversation. Just say anything. It doesn't really matter what you say. Her reaction will tell you if you should proceed or bow out. If she's interested, she will largely take charge of keeping the conversation going. This is how it actually works but it's rare that anyone ever points it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:21 AM
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Yes, it could be a relationship or a short-term sort of hook-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:19 AM
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Yes, this is very true. I do believe that most men have the potential to improve their appearance significantly if they are willing to put in the effort and discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:17 AM
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Okay, it sounds like you've had some rough experiences. I get that. I've had some too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:08 AM
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Okay, I'm not really sure what point you're making. But, let's look at this part: Take it from me, I wasn't RP'd, very much BP with the "my girl likes me for me." That didn't end up working out, and when I went back out there with the "relationship-bod", got a good kick in the ass letting me know I needed to work that out. Mindset towards relationships totally changed when I was getting approached/complimented, figured as long as girls are liking what they see, I'll stick with this as long as I …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:04 AM
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That's a silly notion in my opinion. That would be like buying a fancy suit not to actually wear it going out. But just to stare at yourself in the mirror wearing it. Of course it's for the sake of looking better in public. There isn't anything wrong with that in my opinion. Optimist, you asked me this question (rather insistently, I'd add): You didn't answer my question first though. If cosmetic surgery is a waste of money. I used my time to provide a reasonable answer to your question. You als…
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 11:43 PM
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Yes. The unusual/outlier quality I possess is character and high personal standards. Few meet them. Okay, character is obviously a good quality. Having high standards can be a mixed bag. It's good to have standards, of course, but excessively high standards can rule a lot of people out. People are imperfect. You've got to give people some leeway to be imperfect. Even still, if you followed the approach I outlined for 20 years...then, you must have really high standards if you had no success what…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:37 PM
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I'd say it does unless you're like trying to pull off like a fuckboi schtick What do you mean by this? A dude who's looking to fuck women? Isn't that a very natural desire? it's a good strat I'll give it that What does "strat" mean? but alotta guys aren't in the pool of, "men who can pull this off successfully." Why? There are plenty of dudes who could significantly improve their appearance by losing weight, getting in better shape, dressing better, etc. Plenty of men can improve their social sk…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:33 PM
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Your formula works for the top 20% of men only. I’ve done both the points you bring up consistently for twenty years and have not had a woman close to my league be interested. I do agree that the formula I provide will ABSOLUTELY work for the top 20%. There's no fucking doubt about that. But, I think it could work for more than the top 20%. I could see many men getting benefit who are below the top 20%. Now you say that you've done these things for 20 years with no results. Have you fully done t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:27 PM
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Thank you for your response. I was hoping to hear some women's perspective on these thoughts, so thank you. Just be the best version of yourself and girls will notice. Yes, this is it. It might sound a little corny or too simple, but that's where it's at. Improve your looks. Be outgoing and friendly. More men should give it a try. The thing is...improving your appearance can take a lot of work: blood, sweat and tears (in the gym) along with discipline (particularly with food). That's the way it …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:20 PM
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If you want a certain caliber of man, you need to be the caliber of woman that he wants. Top tier men don’t want bottom tier women. BAM! Right there! This is what always gets left out of these conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:08 PM
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14% is no trifling matter. That makes a hell of a difference in how every day reality is experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:03 PM
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……but is a non fat girl with a blandish face above average…..search your heart In the USA, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:02 PM
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You're definitely considerably above average in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:01 PM
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The majority is fat and therefore most people are below average THIS ONE!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:58 PM
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here seems to be a pretty big trend, at least in manosphere or RP content, of rating above average women as average or below average. Aesthetically speaking, women have declined in quality and are just continuing to decline. This tracks with the rising rate of obesity. That doesn't sound nice but that's the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:57 PM
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is that modern living (namely, being sedentary when you're young) has disproportionately fucked the physiological development of men more than women. I think people are even possibly getting epi-genetically fucked. This is a legitimate perspective that doesn't get enough time. And, you are correct for distinguishing between men and women in your analysis. Men need different things than women. Men NEED physical activity. Or, more accurately and to the point...BOYS NEED physical activity in order …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:52 PM
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Can't say I know a single couple personally where the woman isn't substantially better looking than the man. My experience is different than this. I often see couples where the man is more attractive. And, as far as OLD goes...that's already been discussed to death here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:50 PM
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I think a lot of it is it’s easier to just give up and blame outside circumstances or things you can’t change then to actually have to try. 100%. Height is a big advantage in pick-up. No doubt about it. But, if people would just look around they'd see lots of short dudes with women out in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:45 PM
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I think a big contingent of men are self removing themselves before even trying. They’ve read it’s over if they’re not 6/6/6. Well, they're wrong about that. I understand mens concerns and even a bit of fear when they gobble up rage bait videos of women making tik toks trying to humiliate men but this is so over blown. I’ve never seen this happen in any club, party, etc. I agree. I've never seen anything like that either. Granted, those videos do get a lot of attention, but I don't think it happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:44 PM
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Nope, this is an old take. So, you're saying that improving appearance and being friendly/outgoing is an old take? Perhaps...but, even if it is...that doesn't invalidate it, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:40 PM
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So your solution to get women is to complete conform to what women like? I'm saying to improve your appearance: so I guess what you're saying is accurate. What's wrong with making yourself appear in a manner that women like?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:39 PM
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I'll disagree on the looks part whole-heartedly. I know a great many men who had no difficulty with women, despite not being conventionally good or even average looking, including myself. I'm saying that people need to aim for people who are in a similar type of attractiveness level. If your looks are more average...okay then...you go after women who are more average. People shouldn't use a more average appearance as an excuse. The truth is that the world is filled with average people who are ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:22 PM
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Being a short guy is somewhat rare from what I can see IRL. THIS is why I LOVE Reddit!
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 07:39 PM
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“Most men I like are average height (5'9"-5'10") so being below 6ft isn't a big deal to me.” 🤡 You’re 5’1 and saying you’d settle for a 5’10 guy instead of a 6’0 🤣 🤡 You can't make this stuff up! 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 The 5'1" gal is okay with a guy who's only 5'10". I LOVE IT!
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 07:37 PM
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It's rare, but very scary to men. I agree with you on that. That possibility is scary to me also. But, I don't think it's so likely if your approach is soft and friendly. Ultimately somebody's got to say something to somebody or nobody's ever going to have a baby again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:17 PM
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CMV Agreement posted under Automod I don't see how OP's view can even be controversial. But, I notice on this subreddit that it is controversial. That's strange. He's saying, "You have to approach women to get a relationship." It's like...yeah...no kidding...water is wet. Women are not going to hurt you, it’s normal and natural to just approach politely. This is it. Just be polite and friendly, guys. It'll be all right. The worst that will happen is you get rejected and walk away. You'll be okay…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:04 PM
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It’s just honestly the risk isn’t worth it. Not cause I’m scared of getting arrested but because a lot of women will go out of their way to make a scene out of nothing and I’m not about to risk getting embarrassed like that I’ve seen it and it’s brutal. I don't understand this. I think if any man is being polite and friendly that it's not going to result in a scene. Like, if a man says, "Hi, beautiful day today." Like...how is this going to result in a scene?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:00 PM
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But honestly, if you're trying to get a genuine relationship, simply approaching women you've never met before and know nothing about and asking them out is a colossal waste of time. I usually try to be polite in my responses, but sometimes something is just so stupid I have to come out and say: this is really fucking stupid. Let's quote this again: But honestly, if you're trying to get a genuine relationship, simply approaching women you've never met before and know nothing about and asking the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:52 PM
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You didn't answer my question first though. If cosmetic surgery is a waste of money. I didn't answer that because first I needed to know this: Well, I'm very interested to hear what we're starting with here. How tall are you and what do you weigh? And, what particular surgeries are you considering? You responded with this: However, I'm 5'5, with a an average face, I'm average weight for my height. Having an average face with below average height is a net negative. So, is it a waste of money? Tha…
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 03:16 AM
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The average man of today compared to 70 years ago: less physically fit fatter less masculine much more of a pussy vidya games, porn, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 12:38 AM
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It’s not romance though. It’s disillusion. Romance isn’t being infatuated with a stranger. There’s more to it. Romance isn’t pasta dinner and flowers. Romance to different people is different things. Yes, it certainly is different things to different people. I think romance itself is...I might not use the word delusion...but, something that's in the same zip code as delusion. There's no getting around there being an idealized conception of the person being in play during the "romance" experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 07:11 PM
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Men are just confused about reality. They think every woman they’re attracted to is the one. They’re infatuated. It’s not romance. It’s desperation if anything. I actually basically agree with this. It's really just a harsher way of saying the same thing. I wasn't saying "more romantic gender" as if this was a positive quality. I also attribute it, essentially, to being "confused about reality." You mistake everything as getting hit on when it’s simple kindness. I do that? Obviously, women can b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 06:27 PM
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Men seem to have high school crush mentality for a lot longer then they should. Ouch. Another way to say it is what I've been saying for years: men are the more romantic gender. I believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:38 PM
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Okay, that does paint a picture. Pretty impressive really just how much that single sentence conveys. Of those four things, which one is the most powerful in holding you back?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:32 PM
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Yes, but my point was only challenging your view of how courtship works. I wasn't championing pick-up...though, when I was younger I did find it to be a lot of fun. Concerning your objective which appears to be finding a meaningful, long-term relationship with a woman in the present day: good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:47 PM
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I'm curious also what bottom 5% is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:38 PM
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You got me there. 😁 I just wanted to interject that our courtships are sometimes pretty dog like...particularly when in places like clubs and bars. I remember one time in NYC I was in a trendy bar downtown drinking by myself, and this hot little bitch with dyed blonde hair sits down to my right, and within minutes, I'm kissing her right there on the stools. After a couple minutes I realize that her hot little brunette friend had sat down on the stool to my left. I'm drunk and kissing the blonde …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:36 PM
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Why should it be acceptable to deny us the same? That's not equality, that's "fuck you, I got mine" ladder-pulling. It's very fucked-up and difficult being a man in the USA these days. This is true for all men: including the ones who appear to have got it going on. What makes it tougher is that the reality of it being difficult to be a man in the USA is not only denied...but, we're told the opposite: that it's a man's world. Men know this is bullshit. The key to all this shit is acceptance. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:27 PM
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Masculine, objectively attractive men don’t have to do any approaching. They’re so rare that every woman is seeking one out. How did you reach this conclusion? Attractive men very often have to approach. Almost always. The difference, though, is that women make it very fucking clear nonverbally that they want him to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:09 PM
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Women see the average man (which has gotten better since 70 years ago) and she wants more than the average. When the average man keeps getting better over time - women want more than the average so their expectations keep growing. Ah, here's the problem with your reasoning. The average man most certainly hasn't gotten better since 70 years ago. How on earth did you reach that conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:06 PM
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how do you think a mentally strong masculine man would respond to being rejected by a woman he approached and had a normal conversation with? He just shrugs it off as part of the game. Because, it is...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:04 PM
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Our courtships last at least hours, more likely days, weeks, months, even years. This often isn't true. You never were kissing a woman in a bar within five or ten minutes of meeting her?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:01 PM
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I'd rather spend the rest of my life trying to delude myself that relationships aren't worth it. That's not necessary a delusion in our present time. For the most part, relationships with a contemporary woman really aren't worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:59 PM
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blackpill is 100% true. Your looks are the first thing a woman notices & will get you through the front door. I agree with this. That is how the world works. Blackpill is correct.
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 07:41 AM
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Girls will literally come up to me and say "ew" or "you're creepy; I see people say things like this on Reddit...and, I believe you, but it's hard to believe also. A girl will just fucking come up to you...you're in public...you've never seen her before...and, she'll say, "You're creepy." That's seriously fucked up.
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 07:39 AM
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How did you reach that conclusion?
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 07:18 AM
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Non white women would often uphold the eurocentric beauty standards that are apparently working against them, sometimes they would do thus at the expense of the self esteem of non white men, How so? What does this mean?
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 07:16 AM
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If all the western women are damaged, would you not also be a damaged man by living within that same western society? You're on to something here, but I'd argue that the men are damaged in a different way. It's just not the same.
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 07:14 AM
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You think getting cosmetic surgery procedures is a waste of money but if it leads to a happier life for me personally. Well, I'm very interested to hear what we're starting with here. How tall are you and what do you weigh? And, what particular surgeries are you considering?
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 07:08 AM
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Save money like a mad man to pay for the cosmetic procedures to address these. Or you could use that money and fuck some hot escorts. You can either meet their basic standards or spend the rest of your life alone Well, in a sense, you're most likely to spend your life alone whether you end up with somebody or not. And, if your plan works...which is uncertain to begin with because how effective will these "cosmetic procedures" be... these surgeons can only work with what they've got in front of t…
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 07:05 AM
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On the other hand, when a woman thinks about just dating a run of the mill ugly dude she realizes there is no validation or internet clout from dating a normal uggo so regular ugly guys are somehow in a worse position than disfigured or disabled guys. I don't know just my perspective on this strange phenomenon I guess This is so interesting. This is why I read this subreddit. I would have never thought of that. But, I think you're right! That does make sense.
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 07:01 AM
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In the USA, the thing you're not allowed to discuss is the almost unfathomable superficiality of women. This conversation is not allowed! So, by proxy, you're not allowed to discuss the plight of regular men...because, all roads lead back to the incredible superficiality of women.
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 06:52 AM
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That is very fucking true.
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 06:29 AM
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CMV Agreement posted under Automod I agree with OP. Actually, if I disagree with OP a bit it's because he didn't state his case strongly enough. In a sense, I agree with OP more than he agrees with himself. His premise is that the aesthetic parameters are much narrower for men than for women. It's not even possible to argue against this. For men, it's damn narrow: it's height, leanness and face ranging from decent to handsome. And, that's it! That's what almost every heterosexual woman out there…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 06:04 AM
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There it is. How is a man supposed to know? It's not possible. Most of the time it's very obvious. It's about looking for a number of things generally in combination. One of the most obvious ones is if you see a woman repeatedly looking at you. Women don't repeatedly look at men they're not interested in. If you're in class and every time you look right there's a woman looking at you who then looks away...there you go. This might sound funny, but if you're talking to a woman and she's continuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:21 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 11:02 PM
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Yes, I don't think of it as "tall" either. But, it's certainly not short either. And, it's 4 inches taller than she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 10:54 PM
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I'm just thankful I understand everything now, and life is pretty decent. Yes, understanding these gender realities is a big step towards happiness. It just is what it is...no reason to be upset by any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 06:21 PM
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I think you misunderstand me. My position here is that other people, primarily certain types of women, feel that male sexuality is disgusting and predatory. My own government backs up that sentiment. Women are victims, men are animals. That's what they do with men they find undesirable. You've just got to do your thing and ignore that shit. The problem is the social constructs around them which may result in material damage if they're misinterpreted or twisted around to appear unnatural or evil.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 06:18 PM
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(or produces men who are terrified of their own shadows). This is true. But, it's up to the man to stop being terrified.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 06:14 PM
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seeing it, experiencing it, is the best way to learn. This is true. A lot of men in the USA have been so brainwashed by our society that they just don't want to believe how superficial woman are...they just can't accept this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 06:13 PM
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Oh, every human It's interesting you changed "man" to "human." It's okay to discuss men's issues. We've been made to feel that it's somehow wrong to discuss things/problems that are specific to men. We're discussing something specific to men here: namely, being friendzoned. But the stakes for some are far less than for others. Stop being such a scaredy cat and start living. Living involved risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 05:31 PM
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All that would happen is every woman would be wearing a red flag. Because, they know that the type of man they want to approach would do it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 05:27 PM
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I'm not so inexperienced or anxious that I haven't encountered women who are just as crude and smutty as any man. The problem, however, is telling one from another. Your disposition is evident even from just these posts. Sexual desire is not "crude" or "smutty." Part of what's going on with you might be these notions. There is no fucking telling "one from the other." They're all the one. They're all the same. HUMANS HAVE SEXUAL DESIRE! Having said that, I'm not sure that's quite my style, for be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 05:18 PM
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I have to believe that fucking up is acceptable Well, stop having so much trouble believing that. If there's one thing you can bet your life on, it's that every man fucks up sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 05:10 PM
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good guys make their intentions clear Yes, this is true. But, you can also substitute the word "men" for "good guys." An actual man isn't trying some deceptive bullshit. And, he's not ashamed of having a penis that gets hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 05:06 PM
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We have this crazy idea that people can be friends and care about each other beyond sex. That is pretty crazy. Men will want to fuck attractive women they know. It's not shameful. It's our biology. And, it's this nature that explains why there's a human population that exists on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 05:03 PM
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My social skills aren't much use if approaching a woman ever (according to some women) is "problematic". All heterosexual women (married, relationship, single) are receptive to flirtation from a man whom they find appealing. The man needs to adjust the flirtation intensity based upon the reactions he's getting. But, don't believe any of this bullshit about places that are appropriate for flirtation and places that aren't. The variable is always THE MAN.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 05:01 PM
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Oh, cut the person off? Like women keep saying means you were "never interested in her in the first place, you just wanted to fuck"? Men need to own their desire to fuck and stop being ashamed of it. When I was much younger, I remember a beautiful girl told me, "You just want to get in my pants." I told her, "I'm a man and you're fucking beautiful. OF COURSE I WANT YOUR PUSSY!" It ended up being the most meaningful relationship of my life, by the way. I still think about her sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 04:55 PM
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If you’ve come onto a girl or second case haven’t done that and get mad at her for not being romantically interested, it’s not her wanting orbiters and fucking you over. It’s you. You’re the moron waiting around and wasting your own time. Not the girl who offered and is giving a friendship. You went out somewhere? Friends do that. You text? Friends do that. Your decision to stay friends and be “disappointed” is on you. CMV - I mostly agree so posted under Automod I basically agree with your sent…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 04:51 PM
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because obese is the worst thing a person can possibly be I'm not saying that nor am I even suggesting it. I think what I'm saying is clear in what I posted. Granted, the very last fragment wasn't a nice way to put it. I felt a bit irritated by what the woman said in her message.
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 12:50 AM
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This bot is often unnecessary. I agree with the general SPIRIT of the bot's message, more or less, but it's presented in too extreme of a way. "Obese" is a legitimate term that describes something that needs to be described.
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 12:48 AM
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Yes, indeed. It is an obscene, fucking mess.
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 09:45 PM
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She is a total cunt, no doubt about it...but, even a total cunt can have a grain of truth amidst the general obnoxiousness... The part that she gets slightly correct is at the end concerning natural selection...sort of...women's selection is extremely important...more important than can even be put into words...but, if you look at the historical arc it was also a much higher quality woman that was doing the selecting because the average woman was much more physically fit...these days any ole MOO…
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 09:37 PM
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One sure way to quickly spot a Reddit douche is anyone who uses the expression "perma-ban".... PS. fuck off Manic Man
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 09:30 PM
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This is a very good answer to the question. It's so good that I no longer feel the need to respond myself. The only thing I might add is that, for many I think, it's about a little bit more than just success with women and understanding the true, general nature of women (although that certainly is the majority of it), but...I think it's also about a man just attempting to take general control of his life and happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:43 AM
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I was/am absolutely not attracted to his looks. But he makes me feel good and he is kind. I put aside the feel-good stuff and accepted reality for what it is a long time ago. In the statement above, you're speaking for yourself. Most women don't function that way. Sorry. Reality is what it is. So, no, I'm not going to listen to you. I've been around and I know you're trying to gaslight male Redditors.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 10:45 PM
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But in the end the blackpill is more right than the redpill because it prioritizes the importance of looks. I agree. And, I'll tell you who else would agree with this. Go talk to some good looking men who are honest. They'll tell you too.
/r/AllPillDebate04/05/23 09:56 PM
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Well, I'm saying that I personally have been receiving favorable reactions based upon appearance since the day I was born...and, I like that. I enjoy it. I use it to my benefit nonstop. But, it's also not right because there are very decent people...people more decent than myself...who don't have a good appearance and get treated in a lousy way because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:50 PM
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If you experience an upper middle class upbringing and your conventionally attractive, you are going to be more sociable, confident, and personable then someone who came from a broken home, is short and fat, started balding in hs and was picked on at school. It's amazing that people will try to argue against this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:47 PM
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You should listen to what women have to say about what we value in a partner Well, I am presently listening to what YOU say about what YOU value. But, YOU sure as hell aren't representative of ALL WOMEN. YOU are certainly representative of one individual...that would be...YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:46 PM
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Anyone complaining about dating is just a man who doesn't attempt to ask women out; truth is most men are just huge pussies, the pussification of modern men has us all terrified of rejection like WE ARE THE TEENAGE GIRLS instead of the men we are. There's some truth in this, too. I wouldn't say "anyone complaining" because there are some dudes who are attempting and failing...but, the painful truth is that this young generation of men is---to a large extent---a grandiose bunch of scaredy-cat vid…
/r/AllPillDebate04/05/23 05:16 PM
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Good looking men fuck girls below their levels all the time. This is very very true. Truth be told, I've done it quite a bit myself in my youth. But, it's actually a big part of why we have this problem today.
/r/AllPillDebate04/05/23 05:07 PM
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Instead They want you to think they’re innocent & don’t have high sex drives. They say that we’re nothing more than a low-life dog chasing poon, yet they’re still spreading their legs & are giving it away to guys who could not care even the slightest fuck about them That's the whole game right there. The thought I always have is that there's no good reason for a woman to be ashamed of her sex drive. It's all very natural. But, they have idiotic men convinced of so much bullshit.
/r/AllPillDebate04/05/23 05:01 PM
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Every woman who's ever been interested in me has shown interest from the very first sentence I've spoken to them. They took one look and the decision was made. This is how it is with very few exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 08:21 AM
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Being a bad boy is very beneficial when it comes to... attracting women I took out the "respected by peers" part because who gives a fuck about that. As far as your statement: "Being a bad boy is very beneficial when it comes to... attracting women." There's no doubt about it. The people who disagree have simply never lived it. Your statement is simply a fact. That's how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 07:03 AM
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Yeah, I've been kicking around long enough that there are some ugly truths that you realize. For instance, when I was much younger and an alcoholic/drug addict, picking-up women was effortless. Some times they'd pick me up! At bars and clubs, the way it used to go down. The things they'd say. As a human being, I was selfish and all around a pretty lousy person. And, I was irresistible. After I got clean, sober, and became a far better human being...I could still get women, but it wasn't as easy …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 06:56 AM
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or are an addict of some sort, pervert, then it will turn off a woman no matter how good looking / sex appeal he has ! That's not necessarily true either. Being perverted and/or alcoholic isn't always disqualifying. It all depends. A tall, lean handsome son of a bitch can be an alcoholic/addict who tremendously sexualizes interactions, and that can work out very damn well for him frequently if he's also a charming bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 06:27 AM
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Really ?! Is there a psychological phenomenon for this ? Never thought that this could be a possibility ! I sort of have the feeling that you're kidding me now. Let's proceed, though, like you're being serious. As far as a "psychological phenomenon"...somebody else mentioned the "halo effect." That's accurate. But, I also think it's sort of over complicating things a bit. It's just the way it is...women simply get goofy for handsome men. That's just the way it is. It's really ridiculous the way …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 06:04 AM
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Yes, I am saying that and more. You are very correct in what you say above, but also... I'm saying that when you mention how he "MAKES HER FEEL" and her emotions etc., his good looks are directly responsible for a big part of that equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 05:54 AM
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Handsome face and lean body isn’t enough to make me pay attention to someone. If they’re not my type, I won’t notice that they exist. Not sure how to understand those two sentences together.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 05:06 AM
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Looks are NOT close to the most important thing for women This is what the kids call a "cope." Whether it's the most important thing or not, there ain't no way getting around that looks are very Goddamn important to most women. That's just the way it is and the way it will always be. And, it has to be that way. We're programmed to interpret potential partners in term of reproductive fitness and success. That's just the way it is. You go out sometime with a straight-up tall and handsome motherfuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:59 AM
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Handsome face, lean body, hung You don't care about those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:54 AM
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who happened to be just 1-2 inches taller than me. STILL TALLER THAN YOU!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:04 AM
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but one woman writes about how much she loves her 5’8 bf and suddenly men will be like GASP what about the poor 5’1 dudes??? Your interpretation is wrong. The reason for the push back is because she said, "I like tall men and ended up with a shortER guy." And, people---like myself---are saying: HOLD ON, the "shorter guy" is still 5 fucking inches TALLER THAN YOU! How tall even are you??? Virtue signaling much? I'm 6'3". I don't understand how I'm "virtue signalling" with my comments. Honestly, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 03:52 AM
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Same guy at 5’5” & I would have still ended up with him. I see a lot of this sentiment, but in every case YOU DIDN'T END UP with the hypothetical shorter version.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 03:46 AM
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Thank you, Loose. Appreciate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:02 PM
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Of course. Women love male neediness. There's no need to "sniff for vulnerabilities." The neediness is terribly obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:01 PM
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You’re projecting your own anxiety of being settled for onto what I said I'm 6'3" and lean. Nobody's settling for me, baby. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:16 PM
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Go back and read my reply. I was adding to it as I went along.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:12 PM
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Most women END UP WITH taller than her. There's plenty of data to support this. How Common Is It For A Man To Be Shorter Than His Partner? https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-common-is-it-for-a-man-to-be-shorter-than-his-partner/ Just 3.4 percent of couples were of the same height, and in 4.1 percent of couples, the woman was taller than the man. Even though men were on average almost half a foot taller than women See how it works in romance novels: a ripe terrain of female fantasy/ideal. h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:04 PM
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In the quoted portion below, you imply that you're settling. In particular, you imply it by first mentioning your serious relationship with the tall gentlemen, and then saying about your current 5’10 partner: "I chose him because of how open and honest he was with me..." My first serious relationship was with a gentleman who was 6’4. After that relationship I dated several men who were my height or just above (5’6). My current partner is 5’10. I met him and had an instant connection with him. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:59 PM
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OH, JN. I had a feeling. I really had a feeling!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:56 PM
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I never took male height into consideration when choosing partners in my life. My ex was 5’11” 😭 The fact that so many women in this thread are portraying 5'11" as a short man that they're settling for tells you everything you need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:53 PM
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unless it’s paired with other specific attributes. Handsome face, lean body, hung. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:51 PM
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The women in my family are Amazons How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:33 PM
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“Um, I’m going to compromise and select the guy every other girl wants. It sucks but sacrifices have to be made for love.” 😭😭😭😭😭😭You've got to love women! I LOVE WOMEN. They're so much fun! This subreddit is the best thing that ever happened to the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:29 PM
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You know it 100%. She's acting like 5'10" is SETTLING!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:24 PM
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The point is that she's 5'6". She ended up with a man 4 inches taller than her...5'10"...and, she's acting like she settled. Yes of course I still look at tall attractive men. LOL! You gotta love the things these women say without even knowing how it sounds. She ended up with a dude who's 5'10" for fuck's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:21 PM
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it's not the same as a a 6'2 man saying the same, it's like they're approaching you just cuz they like that they could easily overpower you. Some women may be into that but many are not and personally I hate when tall/big men have this approach, it feels aggressive and is a turn off to me, like I'm some prey and they're sizing me up and on top of all that expect me to be "flattered". Oh, good lord Feminism. God help us all I don't think there's any way out of this mess. I'm 6'3" and if I find a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:14 PM
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if I guy says I prefer a shorter girl he's a pig. No. This is how it works. I know this from real life. Women can say they prefer anything they want. When I say, "Hey, I'm tall, lean and physically fit. I want a woman who's also tall, lean and fit"...then, I'm a no good son of fuck who needs to burn in hell for his body shaming!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:09 PM
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The reality is that most women just want a man that’s taller than her. Wrong. Most women WANT 6 foot plus. Most women END UP WITH taller than her. There's plenty of data to support this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:04 PM
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but doesn’t have the ego of a 6’0+ man. I'm insulted. My bf is 5’8. So when people ask about seeing someone taller or more conventionally attractive, it’s so weird to me. So..what? They’re not him. Sure I can acknowledge someone is good looking or attractive in my eyes, absolutely. But they’re not him. He's still 5 INCHES taller than you! You're 5'3". Everything you said sounds very nicey-nice but you still didn't go for a dude who's 5'2"!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:03 PM
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I'd class the experience as bittersweet. You're making too much out of this. Women are treacherous. And, I'm not saying that in a bad way. I like women. But, they're fucking treacherous. All of them without exception. I honestly almost cried when we were cuddling afterwards because it was the first time I'd been that close to someone in years. This hurt you. She was picking up on this excessive emotionality from you. She sensed there was something fucked up about you. She was wondering, "Why's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:11 PM
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BE FRIENDLY, but be very reserved at the same time. By that, I mean, you want to stay the hell away from anything that could even be remotely controversial. Don't mention anything illegal that you've ever done. You want to smile and agree with the boss.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/23 07:17 AM
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By “2 C chromosomes” do you mean “2 X chromosomes”? Yes, X chromosomes. Typo. https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/ But, what's truly vile and disgusting is the level of man hatred you'll find in Female Dating Strategy where they routinely refer to men as "scrotes." https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/ That's strangely acceptable though. Here's an example off their front page: There are a few things I hadn’t really considered about living as a man before reading the things that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:05 PM
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I don’t think reddit banned it because the premise was threatening to some. The sub is (was) based on false beliefs about women. Your interpretation here, no offense, is just silly. Subreddit's are filled with false beliefs about all sorts of things. Take a look at the anti-man subreddits I mentioned above. They push all types of false beliefs along with harmful generalizations about men. Why are they not banned? Answer that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 08:26 PM
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If it was banned by reddit it must have been pretty bad. Presumably lots of hating on women. I participated there. It was not hating on women. The premise was that a contemporary man is better off not being involved with women in romance/relationships. The problem is that this premise is threatening to some. The premise itself, though, isn't hateful. You can reasonably support that argument when you look at laws: divorce, alimony, domestic violence, child custody, child support, etc. The truly h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:44 PM
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In reality women just pick men. This is basically true. There's some exceptions here and there, but that is basically how it works. There's even academic, field studies that have observed women's nonverbal signalling that precedes the man "making the first move." Generally, the woman has actually made the first move. Oftentimes, this means multiple girls will pick the same guy. Sometimes it can work out, other times, girls will fight over the same guy. This is very often how it works. This happe…
/r/AllPillDebate01/05/23 06:10 PM
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DARVO is a type of gaslighting, and is often used as a way to shame victims, and make them believe that they are responsible for the abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 01:50 AM
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Are you using Romantic and Sexual interchangeably? Yes, I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 01:25 AM
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Go ahead Rorschach...spit it out already. Quit making this so episodic and exciting. We're not on TV. What are you trying to say here?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 01:06 AM
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In the example I gave above, I'm saying (in the 1st paragraph) that the man wants the girl in a romantic and sexual way. So, yes, he wanted a romantic relationship. I'm saying that if a man wants a romantic relationship and the woman doesn't want that...she says she just "wants to be friends"...there's going to be problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 01:04 AM
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DARVO stands for "Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender." Explain how this applies to our discussion please.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 07:32 PM
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The point is that Scared Tea is encouraging men to go to the gym, hire a nutritionist, get educated, build wealth, etc. And, I'm saying: all that male self-improvement...for what? A bunch of lazy, obese Narcissists who are doing nothing to make themselves more desirable to men. Get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:49 PM
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America probably has the best looking girls imo. Yes, people like different things. I think American women, as a general whole, are some of the least attractive in the world. Just far too much obesity and sloppiness. I probably find 0.5% of woman attractive enough to engage with. Yes, I agree with this. I said 1% on a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:37 PM
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You're putting a twist on things with your comment. The point is that sometimes a man encounters a woman, and she's the type of woman that he wants. He learns that she doesn't want him in that way. She wants to be friends. It's a bad idea for him to be friends with her. Why? It's just problematic out of the gate. They regard each other in too drastically of different ways. Now, if there's a woman that he doesn't want sexually, then a friendship that revolves around a shared hobby is much more li…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:24 PM
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So, your point of view is that if a man has OCD and appreciates beautiful women he can't have his life together. That, my friend, is pretty fucking stupid. Women always get triggered when a handsome bastard, like myself, just candidly reports American reality: that it's inundated with obese Narcissists who think they're entitled to men like myself. They're not. I have relationships with lean and beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:07 PM
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The men, in question, are horny. It's not complicated. It doesn’t work the same way with women. What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:03 PM
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Also he It sounds like you're talking about a specific scenario. My comments above were intended to be conceptually general. I don't understand your comments. It seems like you're replying to someone other than me. I went back and reread the comments. You're interpreting my remarks in a weird way. In my dialogue, I'm providing an example of the correct and non-cowardly way to proceed. I'm demonstrating what I think is the right way to handle the situation. When I say this: Friend-zoned d-bags on…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:51 PM
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It is cowardly because they don't have the balls to be straight-up and risk rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:34 PM
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Have you considered that most men are truly just not very attractive? And, in the USA most women are overweight or obese. So, what's your point? It's not like we have a nation of beauty queens rolling here. Hell, on Tinder I have a fuck of a time finding a woman who's simply in the healthy weight range for her height. They're all short and fat. Finding a woman who's 5'8" (or taller) and lean in the USA is like the impossible Goddamn dream these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:32 PM
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I live in the USA so for me it's more like 1% on a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:26 PM
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Oh, please. We have a generation of men making themselves into glorious specimens for a bunch of obese Narcissists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:26 PM
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"Look. I don't really want to be your friend. I'm a man. I've got a penis. I want to put it in you. If you're not interested, I'm going to find a woman who is. What are your thoughts?" "I like you as a friend." "See you." PROBLEM SOLVED. Friend-zoned d-bags only have themselves to blame. A bunch of cowardly pussies!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:20 PM
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There are also a lot more average men with beautiful women than there are handsome men with average women. That's not what I witness. I have seen that the opposite is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:48 AM
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You are correct. According to them, any glimmer of masculine behavior is being an asshole. Today, for instance, I was checking out at Costco, and there was this gorgeous woman there...like a 9...with long flowing black hair down to her jeans skirt, and I said, "You have beautiful hair." And, she looked at me and smiled and kept on looking at me. And, we talked a bit. There was a nearby woman who overheard this, and she very well may have thought misogynistic asshole or similar...while, for me, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:48 AM
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Men care about cock size because society has turned it into a symbol of masculinity and so it stands in for being a real man. Society says you should be embarrassed and feel emasculated if you have a smaller cock. This is a bit of gaslighting here. What's the more specific mechanism for how "society has turned it into a symbol of masculinity." That's the type of thing that sounds convincing at first glance, but then you think about it for a minute, and it becomes more like, "What? What? How? How…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 02:07 PM
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why are men being taught by society to take on more feminine attributes? Traits like nurturing, compassion, expressing emotions, caring, cooperating, being supportive etc are all femininity attributes, and are traits that men are encouraged to develop. Well, you're just describing the contemporary American Zeitgeist which is a direct output of Feminism and its ubiquitous presence in the universities and its infiltration into every aspect of our culture. You're suggesting that our larger society …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:57 PM
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What are the benefits that masculinity bring to daily life outside of dating? The benefits are everything. The way that you interact with everybody on a daily basis is a direct consequence. You behave with people the way that a man's supposed to...that means that you listen to people and behave in a particular manner that's difficult to put into words. And, you can see it in the way you're received and interpreted by both men and women. Honestly, I think the benefits are a lot greater in spheres…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:32 PM
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but when I run into a man who is hunting for women I avoid him because I’m not inclined to entertain lonely men. But, what if he's not lonely? What if he's not "hunting"? What if he's just a charming son of a bitch who likes fucking beautiful women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:25 PM
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women care about that much less than men do Keep telling yourself that. A lot of women do care. If women didn't care about it, men wouldn't either. If women had a particular concern about some aspect of a man's big toe, men would very quickly be concerned about that aspect of their big toe. We don't decide to date some rando we met at the grocery store because we imagine he has a big cock. Right, this is true when it comes to a "rando." But, when it comes to the man you see at the grocery store …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:14 PM
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Whether he has friends or not is irrelevant. The presumption that solo pick-up means no social skills is just silly on its face. I've been doing this every time I go out for so many years, and I've never been told that I lack social skills. You sound like someone who's never encountered a straight-up player or a charming and manipulative man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:06 PM
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Women don’t have a problem with it as long as you keep things respectful. Depends on the man. Dude can be best off not keeping it respectful. It really depends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 12:56 PM
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why should she waste time on a man who she knows nothing about other than the fact that he asks out strangers in stores? Because she's horny, likes his appearance and suspects he's got a big cock because on his BDE behavior. Same as it's always been.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 12:52 PM
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It seems that every avenue for a lonely male to find a girlfriend is being abolished and whittled down to OLD swipes Wrong. There's all the same opportunities there's always been: and, by that I mean the entire world. There's women in the grocery store, at the mall, at the gym, in the park, everywhere. Nothing's abolished. A man just needs the balls to walk up to a woman and say hello. SAME AS IT'S ALWAYS BEEN! On this PPD, a recurring theme is a lot of dudes lacking balls...lacking the ability …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 12:48 PM
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Men shouldn't be vulgar or disrespectful to women. As a generality, yes. But, as a rule, not sure I agree with you. I remember a lesson I learned when I was very young. I was employed by a casino, and I was off-duty and gambling and drinking, and I was getting pretty drunk. And, there was a cocktail waitress I knew serving me. And, God All Mighty, did her ass ever look gorgeous in her leotard. So, each time she came by with a drink, I'd start telling her how beautiful her ass was and how I was o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 12:11 PM
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My frustration is how being a regular respectful guy doesn’t seem to get the results that being quite an asshole does That statement is basically Red Pill orthodoxy. That could almost be considered a Red Pill commandment. And, although I agree with the general RP worldview, I always felt like they get everything just slightly wrong. For instance, I think the term "asshole" isn't the right one. It's really boldness that we're talking about. Being "regular respectful" is not going to get the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 11:59 AM
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I showed her pic to my mom (who's a pretty nice and somewhat naive individual) and her reaction was basically "Oh... Yeah, she's not pretty..." Yes, so what! SO WHAT! So what that she's not conventionally pretty to the world! WHY DO YOU OR YOUR MOM FUCKING CARE! The guy you mentioned is happy with her. Life is about more than looks! And, this is coming from me: a guy who really appreciates beauty! I've spent my entire life since high school focused on picking-up beautiful women. But, there's mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 11:40 AM
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while insulting women with a typical desire for sex. More non-reality. I've met an awful lot of women who seemed pretty damn flattered and lit-up-happy when I've insulted them with my flirtatiousness and obvious desire to fuck the living daylights out of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 11:31 AM
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I would agree but many of the guys I know who do well with ladies aren’t charming and witty, they’re crude and vulgar, every second word is fuck this and that, they’re melodramatic and unbalanced and impulsive, not traits I thought would come across as desirable but so it goes No offense, but you come off like a real pussy in these Reddit comments, and I suspect that's the reason you're having trouble getting women. You think of yourself as being "witty and intelligent," and that may be the case…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 11:07 AM
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Looks aren’t the biggest factor, either, at least for men. By losing weight, going to the gym, doing jaw exercises, grooming their face, dressing nice, and getting a nice haircut Oh, this is delicious! I really love this. I mean this in a friendly way, because I like women and am charmed by their nature...the thing is... with that quotation above, that was enough: you didn't have to explicitly state that you were a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:40 PM
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I forgot to put the sarcasm thing in there. Sorry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:01 AM
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I appreciate the refreshing honesty in this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 10:38 PM
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However you are an asshole when you leave someone in need alone in the dark and the cold, when you easily could have helped them and when it wouldn't be dangerous or significantly costly for yourself. 100%. That shouldn't be a controversial way to look at this situation. OP provides a tricky justification by saying: No because men are not assholes for not catering to you after rejection and it should be expected. This statement is generally true. But, it's not without exceptions. There's a diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:24 PM
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For me, very little of my adult life has ever come close to the emotional intensity as my feelings of love when I was in high school. I often think of her still.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:08 AM
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You sound bitter, nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:52 PM
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Just read your own comments back to yourself. You seem like a very bitter woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:37 PM
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I believe this is the obvious reason behind most of women's complaints about the men they date. They just reject any man that is actually in their league (for long term). Yes, I mostly agree with this part. You say "most" women's complaints... I'd say it's true for many women: not necessarily most. But, you are definitely on the right track with that statement. Hypergamy---whether people like it or not---is very real.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:17 AM
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Depends on the laws of the country you live in. Yes, I should have specified: I was talking in respect to the USA. Should default to 50/50. Which may still result in the higher earning parent paying CS to the lower earning one, but that's ok. Right, as I said earlier: "In theory. What the law says and how it plays out in a courtroom aren't always in synch."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:26 AM
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Nah, marriage splits their combined assets in half equally. In theory. What the law says and how it plays out in a courtroom aren't always in synch. And, this isn't even touching on the issue of "child custody" and "support" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:49 PM
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Plenty of dark skinned women have no problems attracting men. This is a fact. Granted, they're attractive. But, that's the way it works regardless of skin color.
/r/AllPillDebate20/04/23 11:47 PM
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The problem with your premise is that there are a lot of men who really get off on darker-skinned women. There's this fine Indian girl at the gym...very dark...and, shit, you should should see the way dudes are checking her out. You can see they want to get their marshmallow in that cocoa.
/r/AllPillDebate20/04/23 09:05 PM
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and the man is a loser. Going through life with such bitterness you can't resist slipping in a little dig on an anonymous message board. Congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:00 PM
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You can't speak for all of Reddit. My main point Pracital Leg was this: You can't speak for all of Reddit. But, I can see you're very resistant to this notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:58 PM
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Yes, but ultimately your world view is extremely mainstream. Despite anything you say, you're riffing off the halo effect and presenting women as innocent babes forever on the verge of being victimized by the predatory bad man. And, that's just not how it works. So many of these young women are horny and cunning and clever and scheming and they want big cock. Some of these young gals---so in need of protection from male predators---are masturbating on Only Fans and making thousands of dollars a …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:37 PM
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a wife enjoys but without risky marriage, etc. There's absolutely nothing risky about marriage for women. There are tremendous rewards for a woman when she breaks the legal contract. It's a really interesting contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:19 PM
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Men oddly always seem to think you're being disingenuous when the topic of protecting younger women from predators comes up. Yes, because look at the warped framing---commonly found in feminism---with its terms such as predator. And, let's talk about actual reality. You have many many young women picking up their birth control pills and chit-chat speculating with girlfriends about which dude in their friend group has the biggest cock and can pump the longest without ejaculating. Okay, let's get …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:54 PM
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You can't speak for all of Reddit. You can only say that it wasn't appreciated by Practical Leg 7451. Perhaps 7452 found it interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:48 PM
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It's that OK Cupid study the Red Pill loves to bring up. The problems with that OK Cupid study are frequently discussed. I'm sorry that my being a feminine woman who embraces maternal instincts to be nurturing towards younger people is silly to you. It's not. I just think you're being disingenuous. I'm saying they need guidance because they aren't and this leads them to being the victims of older people who are certainly not angels. That's the thing. Always claiming the victim role. Perhaps you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:57 PM
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But it contributes absolutely nothing to the point. Not everything in conversation has to contribute directly. Tangential remarks are conventional and accepted. And, they're often valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:53 PM
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I can probably whip up an MS Paint chart for you. Not necessary. But, you can provide a credible citation for this claim: This is because black men tend to be dating white women. And, this is just silly: And yes, we do feel maternal about younger people around us. Yes, of course. Because this current group of young women are all such a bunch of angels being victimized. What a sexist attitude removing women's sexual agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:29 PM
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Where are all the men who disagree? I know there are men who disagree with red pill stuff, are they just quieter? What I'm saying is that a subreddit like this is going to attract a RP perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:20 PM
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We're protective of younger women being taken advantage of by older men. Oh, please. Here we go again with the angelic, younger women in need of protection from the older gal. And, to top it off, some additional concern trolling concerning passport bros who are seeking "legalized slaves." Yes, of course, You're protective of angelic, younger women and overseas women. You sound like a wonderful, caring person! I do know black women have a history of feeling over-looked for white women which isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:12 PM
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Bartender here, I have a whole text app number to give to men who ask for my number, instead of flat out rejecting them like I want to. God forbid you just say, "I'm in a relationship already," and shut it down in that way. Noooooooooooo. Let's have some "whole text app number" ruse instead!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:04 PM
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He's replying to you. In particular, this statement of yours: Both genders are pretty bad at taking rejection. To this he says: It depends brother, if you accept the fact that rejection could happen it's not that hard. You're saying that men and women don't handle rejection well. He's challenging that view by saying that if you have the right understanding of rejection---acceptance---it's possible to handle it well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:02 PM
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Wait why is it a red-pill based sub? I thought purple pill was supposed to be like neither? Because what type of men are going to be arguing the type of points found here? How could you really expect it to be otherwise? A lot of what gets referred to as "purple pill" is really "red pill lite."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:50 PM
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After reading your comment, I think the question is...are you high? What the hell are you going on about? And, what sort of person gets offended over a Reddit post? And, what sort of individual finds the word "strategist" so objectionable? Is English your second language? To suggest someone has a strategy for successful dating is hardly offensive? Who doesn't have a strategy to try and succeed with a date? To say someone has a strategy for dating isn't synonymous with predator. Who thinks this w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 01:41 PM
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I think it’s very possible that she think she’s not deserving of love. That's the thought I was trying to put into words. What I'll add is that this fellow may not be the "really sweet guy" she thinks. She might have just encountered a very smooth player here. The behavior she describes isn't that of an inexperienced, naive man. he didn’t compliment me, or should i say sexualize me. his gaze didn’t wander, he looked me in the eyes the whole time. he seemed so innocent, i don’t even know if he’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:37 AM
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Anything is better than wasting your youth when you have your height. I agree with this statement. Height goes a long long fucking way with women and they will overlook other bullshit if you've got the height. Take advantage of that.
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 10:06 PM
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Thank you for saying it for me. And, I'd just add that how did it come to be accepted in the first place that a couple presents itself to the state and enters a legal contract that has minimal benefit to the man and intense benefit to the woman (e.g. division of things by divorce proceedings, alimony, child support, and custody of the child(ren). The woman has an added benefit that she can torture the man by thwarting his time with the child(ren). And if that gets boring, there's always Parental…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:47 AM
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feminist father will make it worse No argument there concerning "feminist father" ... Then again, I think feminist anything makes everything worse.
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 06:25 PM
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If you look into how men are systematically removed from their children's lives by the family court system, you could make an argument that a big part of the problem is that THERE AREN'T enough dads teaching their sons and daughters. Look into custody, abused restraining orders, child support, Parental Alienation Syndrome, family court bias and bullshit, etc. etc.
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 08:02 AM
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It's a lot more prevalent that just insta thots. Most every regular girl I know has got tons of selfies on social media. Not necessarily ass picture and all...but, duck face poses and such: most definitely.
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 07:02 AM
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Yes, indeed. This is one truth that doesn't often get recognized.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:46 AM
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It's pretty well known that women can exploit their sexuality for personal benefits, but is there any equivalent of that for men? Tbh I'm stretching the definition of "equivalent" quite a bit as what I mean is that if there is ANYTHING men can exploit due to their gender for their own personal gain. 100%. But, it's a small portion of the men out there who can pull these things off. But, with the right combination of characteristics that are discussed here ad nauseam, you can manage an endless ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:42 AM
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Do you honestly believe that if 100 men were to express interest in a woman that 99 of them only want sex and nothing else? I know just from being alive and existing and meeting people and talking and reading that the question above isn't true. That's to say, out of 100 men, far more than 1 wants to have a romantic relationship. Contrary to the mainstream narrative, the truth is that many men are incredibly needy and romantic. On the whole, it's men who are more romantic than women. Women are mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:30 AM
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It’s so funny how pointing out some major qualifiers of dating as a guy apparently proves that the messenger is an incel and deserves to be gaslit and mocked; meanwhile, in almost all other areas, normies will say that we should "trust the science." OUCH! Painful stuff here. Great work. I hope this just stays pinned to the top for as long as this subreddit's around.
/r/AllPillDebate17/04/23 05:38 AM
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the real question is why are modern humans so obsessed with being infallible victims while painting out the other side as a cartoonish supervillain? You're on to something with that question. That's a good one.
/r/AllPillDebate17/04/23 12:43 AM
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I think there is also a sizable number of them who are jaded after failed relationships. No doubt about that. I used to read the MGTOW forum and that WAS NOT an incel conversation over there. The talk was about bad experiences with women, child custody, the general misandrist culture, and the legal structure that lets this all happen. The idea is that it's better to CHOOSE not to participate. Those guys aren't LARPING some bullshit. It's an actual point of view they have. MGTOW is very focused u…
/r/AllPillDebate17/04/23 12:37 AM
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Give an example please.
/r/AllPillDebate17/04/23 12:32 AM
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There is no point in even trying to have a debate with women on here, they either gaslight you to hell or if it's a question that they can't blame men for or it shows women's hypocrisy they go silent. I agree. Same situation on Purplepill Debate. I keep trying, but I know it's pointless.
/r/AllPillDebate16/04/23 11:34 PM
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So make friends, problem solved. 100% not necessary. There are no cheat codes to romance or sex. Yes and no. Responding to that would require a lot of typing. Don’t complain to women about it when men created the problem. I don't complain to women about anything. But the sex pests who relentlessly approach women who aren’t interested are quickly ruining warm approach for everyone else who uses social venues and social events to mingle. Nobody's ruined anything for me. I have no problems interact…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:35 PM
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I'm not an expert of that subreddit. I clicked around and read some posts for a bit, and it didn't seem angry to me. It seemed more sad. I felt sympathetic to the posters there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:26 PM
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The only reason PUAs cold approach in non social venues is because they can’t compete in social venues and lack friends and a social sphere. I believe this comment evinces the standard misandry that I've seen from your commentary before. It's also confusing. The OP is talking about something she witnessed in a "social venue." In a rather creepy fashion she's observing a normal man and a normal woman in the midst of a typical and normal sexualized interaction...and, then she makes a post as if sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:18 PM
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that's a big old bold-faced lie What part is the lie? That the subreddit exists or that it's not angry or both? Or, you don't believe the woman's story about men calling her ugly? I don't see why she'd like about that...her posts seemed very believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:54 PM
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I'm holding on to hope that this is true Okay, I'm now convinced. I actually read this thread all the way down to here. This post was a masterful trolling! I fell for it too! MASTERFUL! You are a fucking genius! Seriously, VERY WELL DONE! I fell for this too...which tells us something about the state of our USA society and feminism etc. that this was believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:15 PM
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It's that the tactics worked. Have you yet stated the tactics specifically? I'd like to hear exactly what you're referring to...you make it sound like you witnessed a black magic sorcerer casting a spell on her... It appears you basically witnessed probably a handsome man behaving boldly with a woman whose pussy subsequently dampened. I don't know why you're portraying this as some type of elaborate and nefarious interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:13 PM
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OP met an above average looking man who successfully approached women in a night club. Water is wet. Yeah, you've got to love this OP. She saw the most mundane and common occurrence in life...a guy successfully interacting and flirting with a woman...and, she acts like Satan had just manifested before her eyes. YOU GOT TO LOVE THIS SUBREDDIT, MAN!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:54 PM
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Second, I don't know any women who would be interested in going to bed with a person who they knew intentionally uses sleazy manipulative tactics instead of being there genuine selves. So, as we have multi-billion dollar industries (make-up, Loreal, etc.) aimed at artificially improving female appearance...the guy who improved his fashion sense and physique and behaves boldly with women is somehow a no good piece of shit? okay ADDED: I read this entire thread. By the time I got to the end I real…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:49 PM
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If everyone followed the JN approach we'd have a birth rate of 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:43 PM
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Perhaps you like the idea of other women being manipulated using sleazy tactics. Oh, please...here we go again. The woman is always being victimized. Guess what...those women "being manipulated"...here's what you're missing... THEY WANT TO FUCK! They're going for the game because they think a guy who's that bold probably has a bigger cock and won't be some vidya game pussy, i.e. he will fuck them hard the way they want to be fucked. Oh, sorry...you're right...the women in question are just babes…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:38 PM
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There's a subreddit called, I think, Forever Alone Women. I was looking at it. The thing is...it's not angry. It's sad because... it just is. I corresponded a little bit with someone on there. She said that men will just tell her in public that she's ugly. So fucking awful. I was surprised by that. What the fuck is wrong with people...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:35 PM
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I actually thought your original post was making an interesting semantic point and that you were hinting at something valid. However, you've subsequently lost me with this weird rape argument that is definitely misguided. Her faulty selection process ends up making her reject men she would actually be happy with. "Faulty selection process" what what? There's nothing "faulty" about how women choose men. It's very sensible from a procreation point of view: which is the underlying context of all of…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:04 PM
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I want this woman: not toxic not a whore correct body weight for her height narrow waist, wide hips IS THIS ASKING FOR TOO MUCH?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 04:04 AM
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I AM NO WHITE KNIGHT! With that said, though, it's a little funny that you post your critique and are quickly told it's "dumb" and "stupid." It's like, HEY DIPSHITS, you're just providing evidence for her critique. everything I have read on here I have discovered I have learned a bit too much about how the male mind works to probably ever leave my guard down enough to trust a man again This collection of malcontents here isn't a very representative group. I wouldn't form too many generalizations…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 04:01 AM
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They cannot handle the idea of sexual market value, which I think really speaks to their insecurities... You're right. But, I'd take it a step further. There are a lot of men and women who reject reality because it's not pretty. If you've been around long enough and objectively observed women's behavior with a critical eye, there are simply certain conclusions you'll reach.
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 05:58 PM
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The basic premise of blue pill is that the fundamental nature of women is unique to each of them. And, if you're just a good, caring and nice guy...a "nice girl" will come along because there's a nice girl out there that you're destined to be with: "THE ONE."
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 05:46 PM
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Being funny is sort of a multiplier. This is the best way to think about it. It's not enough just on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:16 PM
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Is this too much to ask!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:14 PM
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women care much more about giving politically correct answers that make them look good, than having honest discussions about attraction. I agree. I'd add, though, that they have very honest conversations about it with each other in small groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:12 PM
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Also it gives me something entertaining Yes, this subreddit can be entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:16 PM
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I definitely do not understand the point of view of certain men here, and I'm not sure I want to. That's fine. But, it makes me wonder your motivation for being here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:14 PM
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If you want to agree with OP instead of challenging their view or if the question is not targeted at you, post it as an answer to this comment. CMV Agreement Yes, OP I think your premise is basically correct: We have turned relationships into leisure, most relationships are no longer focused on starting a family or working towards a common goal... I also really like how you phrased this: turning relationships into leisure. That's well put. There's just no denying that in previous generations peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:11 PM
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This sub has a lot of men with no experience who have a grudge against women because of it, and it has a lot of women who are married and in relationships who don't understand the characterizations that these men have of women. Purple Pill Debate is more varied than it's being characterized above. There are many men here who have plenty of experience with women. In fact, that's the reason why they're here. To characterize the male input as motivated by grudges due to inexperience is just inaccur…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:04 PM
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Purple pill debate and certain RP ideas (particularly hypergamy) can, indeed, be depressing concepts. When you remove the halo effect and talk about women in a way that regards them as actual human beings, it dispels a lot of the more comforting---but, misleading---widespread cultural premises that we're indoctrinated with in the USA. That's just the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:58 PM
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I would specifically like average women that prefer sleeping casually with high value men to dating average men to acknowledge they are vain narcissists that don’t value love at all. I don’t like the double standard of chastising men as the issue while engaging in this behavior. Too bad. This is just the way it is. My response might sound harsh, but it's just me being honest with you. Your post comes off as terribly naive. You say you're 26: so, that's all right. You also use far too many words …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:32 AM
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The Married Red Pillers often talked about a captain/first mate situation. Let's face it: these guys using this lingo are not to be taken seriously. This isn't how actual men talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:59 PM
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You want your wife to be a beta bux homemaker while you continue to chase after alpha fucks promiscuous women behind her back. Um, "beta bux homemaker"? That doesn't really make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:52 PM
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I never considered Rollo Tomassi someone to be taken seriously. When I've seen him interviewed, I found myself thinking, "THIS is the guy who's giving men advice about women? Really!" I'm not out to blast him with this comment, but if you put yourself out there in the public in this manner, you are open to some critique.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:50 PM
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Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating? 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:34 AM
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Yes, very good! That's better than my example.
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/23 11:24 PM
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From your FR, you are so much overthinking everything! Like... stop analyzing so much and start living. Also, stop worshiping this blonde girl who's jerking you around like a stupid son of a bitch. Stop talking about knocking out other guys who are talking to this game-playing blonde girl. I'm amog alpha like Like, what what? Stop referring to yourself in this way. Any man who refers to himself as "alpha" is not to be taken seriously. Stop reading all this RP stuff. It's helpful material, but yo…
/r/TheRedPill10/04/23 07:18 PM
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You had an opportunity to pressure flip by not framing them as opposition but future friends. You can become the validator in the interaction and get them self-screening. Be nice, be friendly. Introduce yourself. This approach is pretty much always good in every situation. The OP said something about how he could knock them out. That's really looking at things wrong. OP also way too hung up on this particular blonde girl. There's a world filled with cute blonde girls. That's such a common type. …
/r/TheRedPill10/04/23 07:11 PM
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Don't over think this. Just walk around your home in your panties more often. It WILL happen. Guaranteed.
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/23 07:01 PM
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Idk how this is relevant to my comment at all Nevermind.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:23 PM
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What are you getting at? That a lot of people who sympathize with the white woman aren't as sympathetic when you turn the tables a bit on such scenarios. Personally, I find this blonde GODDAMN TERRIFYING. This isn't me trolling. I'm completely serious. If I had a conflict with this little mental case and the cops were called into it, HER WORD IS GOING FAR! MY HANDS ARE GETTING HANDCUFFED BEHIND MY BACK! I am getting put into the back of a police car. I am Goddamn terrified of this innocent littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:20 PM
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There already IS a red-pill for transgenderism. It‘s called „gender is performative“. Yes, this is correct. I'd say it began in sociology with the notion from West and Zimmerman 1987. It took some time for it to enter the mainstream and evolve into what we're seeing. http://sociology.iresearchnet.com/sociology-of-gender/doing-gender/
/r/TheRedPill10/04/23 04:48 PM
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It is. If you specifically wanted to know what arouses them, you should have asked. Ask a bad question, get a bad answer. So, your position is that asking, "What do women like?" is a vague, bad question. You've now revealed that your thread isn't a serious inquiry. The question is not vague and would be implicitly understood in the context that it's being asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:35 PM
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Yeah, what if people of color started taking this approach to any white person who said anything to them? Some men are scary, maybe not you but most women encounter scary men a bunch of times in their lives. Some white people are fucking scary. Maybe not you, but most racial minorities encounter scary white people a bunch of times in their lives. This is a fact. Does it work for people of color too? Or, just a white blonde thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:23 PM
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If you’re the one asking, the burden is on you. You've created a hypothetical scenario here, but let's not over complicate this. Women giving dating advice to men doesn’t work because guys ask for vague advice. So, what is it that these men want to know? They want to know how to get women. Right? It's your hypothetical scenario. You give this as an example question: “What do women like?” So, let's not be cute here. That question isn't "vague." And, it does have a very easy, general answer that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:16 PM
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What are you saying in your comment? That I'm a shallow person not wanting to admit my shallowness? What do you mean by "their projection"? What do you mean by "pretending there's a false dichotomy"? Are you saying that I'm citing a dichotomy that doesn't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 03:57 PM
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Only if the person’s shallow. They all are. The problem is that we've stigmatized this as if it's a bad thing. Even by calling it "shallow" you can see the value judgment that's place on it. It's not a bad thing. All shallow means in this case is that appearance is a major factor in whether a woman wants to get naked with a man. There's nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 03:45 PM
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CMV Women giving dating advice to men doesn’t work because guys ask for vague advice. This view is incorrect. You're putting the blame on men not asking specific questions. That's not the problem. The actual problem is that in most cases women aren't going to admit what men truly appeal to them because it's mostly superficial factors that get them wet. In other cases, they don't even know in their conscious mind and there's a rationalization process to make things seem more palatable. The advice…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 03:41 PM
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I don't know if I'll ever have a normal relationship. If I'm with someone my age, like 23-27 then I'm out of place as a noob and them experienced. If it's someone younger like 16-20, it's out of place because I'm older. Maybe with an elite 18-20 year old entering their first or second relationship, but that seems unlikely to happen. You're overthinking all of this above. How is the actual weight loss going? What are the specific numbers? When you fast for extended times, weight should be droppin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 03:34 PM
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If this is the case, your proposition is like saying, "What makes a great pizza?" You're not allowed to mention the cheese or sauce. In other words, it's a flawed proposition, and you should just stick with the conception you like: “He makes at least 6 figures for 5+ years. He has a title that has notoriety (i.e. the head of surgery at Johns Hopkins). He has to be seen as high value by -other- high value men. He has a strong network. He has to be useful to the group.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:29 AM
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There’s more to a man’s value than “women’s sexual approval” I have to disagree with you on that. I think in the context of both this subreddit and thread, that's exactly what determines a man' value. Now, if we were in a different context...such as deciding the winner of a "Father of the year" competition, I would agree with you. But, when you're talking RP, purple pill discussions there's an inherent context to this. And, high value man in this context is 100% determined by women's sexual appr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:19 PM
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I wouldn’t consider Ted Bundy high value See, this is the general problem with your post. What you think doesn't matter. Here's the part that matters: but he was sought after by a lot of women while he was incarcerated. That's what decides high value or not. Who gives a fuck what Kevin Samuels or any other man has to say on the topic. It's women who decide. And, you give some truth serum to a group of women and you're going to find answers quite different than your John Hopkins scenario lol. Stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:44 PM
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It kinda doesn’t matter how pretty or tall if he’s intense and hyper focused and staring. Yes, of course. If there's one thing women hate it's when they catch a motherfucker who looks like George Clooney "staring" at them. Women hate that!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:36 PM
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Change My View - Disagreement ...what approach passes as 'weird' or 'creepy' has no objective criteria to it. It always depends on the individual woman whose subjective perception will retroactively make the judgment whether what a guy just did constituted an act of 'harassment' or a successful attempt at seduction. I have to disagree with you here. There is a generalized objective criteria to what's creepy. If the man's got it going on with his face, his height, his body fat %, and his demeanor…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:34 PM
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I’d rather be chad’s fwb because he’s attractive, honest and has social skills than to be the emotional punching bag of a Ben or Greg who eventually will cheat on me because he settled for me and is just chasing the dream of being Chad. Yes, I can understand this point of view. I said that I think it makes sense. So the “subpar” women should lower their standards to…what exactly? Subpar men who get angry and call them fat whales and shallow bitches?…. Nope. I didn't suggest that. It makes comple…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:09 PM
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Why not pick the hottest and/or richest out of all of them? I think this approach is sensible. I can't fault any woman for doing that in theory. The problem is that there are many subpar women simultaneously vying for the attention of a select few of the men you describe. How it often plays out is that the happening guy fucks multiple of these subpar gals who don't understand that this type of man will never want them for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:17 AM
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What do you mean by that? I could picture it going either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:44 AM
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I think that's apples-to-oranges. In the case of men, a lot of the motivation is to limit men's sexual release exclusively to traditional involvement with women. That's the reason they've managed to attach a shame to masturbation, prostitution, massage parlors, pornography, Fleshlights, etc. On the face of it, why is a woman with a dildo hot and sexy while a dude fucking a Fleshlight is pathetic? It's masturbation. It's the same damn thing. It's all about shaming the non-relationship-with-woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:11 AM
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Ah, I see. Interesting. Well, that's never going to happen. Men are always going to be negatively judged for seeing a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:19 AM
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Most of the RP tenets aren't anything new, they've just been repackaged and the problem is a lot of it has been wrapped up in bitterness with a misogynist bow on top. I have to agree with this. A portion of RP is just common fucking sense. Another part of it is needed to break men out of the propaganda they've been indoctrinated with... But, either way, it would definitely be possible to present the information in gentler way. On the other hand, it's red pill. It's not really supposed to be gent…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:36 PM
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I have a body similar to the first pic and literally get nothing in the dating scene Well, if your body's like the first pic, you'd have me going absolutely fucking nuts! That body type gets me stupid. ...a lot of dudes these days are total pussies when it comes to approaching a hot woman. Maybe that's what's going on?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:12 PM
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Are those pics an exaggerated version of what you find attractive irl? Well, if you look at the first picture of the blonde woman, that's not an exaggerated version of what I like...it's exactly what I want. Women like that exist. Granted, in the USA, it's not very common. The second picture, yes...that one is a tad bit exaggerated, but I thought it got the aesthetic across pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:29 PM
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Narrow waist, wide hips, prominent ass is what I consider the ideal. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2358/8647/products/2032espalda_1024x1024_b992c596-cf9e-4575-9189-49798b72f6dd_grande.jpg?v=1669700895 https://www.pinterest.com/pin/505106914438899593/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:29 PM
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I mean it sure seems to have worked out well for feminists and women lol, they just bitched loudly at society until things changed. I think Feminism and society is besides the point. It's more basic. Women have one egg. Getting pregnant carries an enormous, long-term investment. There's a built-in inclination to be selective. Men have millions of sperm. There's a built-in inclination to indiscriminate dissemination. Modern life layers "culture" and law and other bullshit over top these basic, fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:04 PM
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This OP is about passport bros but somehow we are back to talking about women again. There is no way to talk about "passport bros" without talking about women. It's like trying to talk about a John without talking about women. The whole premise of "passport bros" hinges upon an argument that it is a wise decision based upon the differences in women over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:41 PM
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That's what I've been thinking while reading this. Seems like OP is looking for some type of approval or consensus. I'd say as long as the women are of legal age and not coerced, go for it. I guess, though, those are the critiques being made that they're not legal age and perhaps coerced. I don't know the fine points of this whole Thailand stuff. But, if OP thinks it's great, then fuck Reddit's thought on the topic and go do your thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:23 PM
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I'm just pissed at the double standards and how so many claim they want equality, but treat equality like it's a one-way street in favour of women. The hypocrisy pisses me off. It is what it is. Being pissed about how this reality is structured isn't productive. These conventions we're discussing...at first glance they seem societally-enforced, but they're really aspects of our fundamental nature as men and women... as though men are just supposed to man up and put themselves through hell, risk …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:06 PM
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CMV If it wasn't for sex, most men would not bother with women. I have to disagree with this. It's difficult to speak for most men. But, that's how you set-up your statement. I don't believe your premise is accurate. The truth is though without sex, men wouldn't bother with women or trying to get to know them. I think there are a lot of men who enjoy interacting with women. I do. I don't have any data to support my position about "most men." It's based upon my everyday observations and experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:30 AM
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I personally wouldn't. I don't fit the parameters of the comment. I said I see how it could be true. That it makes sense. The comment, among other things, said: Unattractive men aren't better or safer options. Yes, I certainly see how that could be true. You don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:22 PM
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watching video games while he whines On the one hand, he does sound like a total wussy because any grown man who plays video games... On the other hand, look at the disrespectful way you talk about this wussy man. This obviously isn't a man you respect. You're characterizing him as a child: "he whines." Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:18 PM
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husband gets home at 5pm. He usually cracks open a beer or three and plays video games / watches TV. Yes, because God forbid if the man who goes out into this idiotic---and, often hostile---world to make money for his family should get an hour of relaxation after work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:15 PM
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I'm a man and I see how that could be true. It makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:51 PM
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failing to be in a relationship with a woman today is not the worst thing that can happen. You are correct. It would do a lot of men good to recognize your statement as truth.
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 03:04 PM
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LARP What's that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:14 AM
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Relationships today are based on romance and lust Yes and no. Some are. A lot are based on a woman's desire for financial support and provisioning. Concerning lust, these days hook-ups are pretty common. Those circumvent relationships. Romance? In some cases, but romance is often fleeting. So, I think there are problems with your first statement. relationships in pre-historic times were based on survival and reproduction Caveman "relationships"? I don't know about that. It would appear that most…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:16 AM
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83 And, how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:57 PM
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What the hell kind of shoes give a 3 1/2 inch boost?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:55 PM
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I also think that women care way more about appearance they a lot of them realise. Ie most women have a specific physical type of guy they find attractive. This is very true. You can take it further and argue that women care about looks MORE than men care about looks. For proof of this, look at how narrow and generally agreed upon are the parameters women use to evaluate handsomeness: tall, lean, face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:36 PM
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Agreement with OP posted as reply to Automod: So in summary, the majority of women's standards are things that you can change about yourself, and even if you don't, men will forgive you about it. The majority of men's standards are things that you can't change about yourself, and women won't forgive you about it. You are correct. I agree with your post almost in its entirety. For nearly every type of woman, there's a considerable niche of men who actively WANT that niche: be it overweight, fat, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:56 PM
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The thing is, shoving her ass in your face is sexual assault. Let's give a scenario. You're in the dentist's waiting room sitting on a couch. Sitting on the couch facing you that's about ten feet ahead of you is some hot blonde. She looks at you for a bit longer than usual a few times... ...A minute later, she stands up and turns around and she's wearing tight spandex pants. She bends over and ties her shoe. So, she's like ten feet ahead of you with her ass pointing at you. She stays down there …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:34 PM
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And if you figure it out wrong, you're accused of harassing her, you get banned from the gym, and you now have a reputation as a creep. I can't disagree with you. Things have gotten pretty stupid these days with these gym videos that show men behaving normally and then being subsequently shamed online. It makes one wonder if it's even worth it. Or, you know, women could communicate like actually emotionally mature adults and use their words like a big girl. That's NEVER going to happen. And, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:27 PM
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Initiating an interaction with a stranger is an unsung act of courage. We all know that men generally do the initiating in the face of it going horribly wrong and being labeled as a creep. Okay, so this is interesting. I don't who you are and what your history and experiences with women has been like. I just relay my own experience. That includes what life has taught me about women's aggressiveness. And, you might have experienced this in your own life...I don't know...but, I've experienced it..…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:47 PM
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