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| 2 | Men need to stop validating women to get upperhand in SMP... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 12:11 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Since women are attracted to “bad boys” during their 20s and then settle down with the “nice guy” by the time they reach 30, that just means that pursuing healthy relationships with women is pointless.That's the whole point of TRP... improve your SMV / flirting skills / game / etc so you have more options | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Are there men who aren’t sexually dominant?Not quite what I was saying, I'm not trying to blame OP, just giving a possible explanation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 05:37 AM |
| 2 | Are there men who aren’t sexually dominant?That's the one. Awesome book | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 03:03 AM |
| 3 | Are there men who aren’t sexually dominant?Gotcha. Well yea that's definitely another possible reason, that they did it "to overcompensate their insecurities". In any case I do think guys exist out there who aren't into it, I used to be one myself like I mentioned, and I know many friends of mine are still into more vanilla lovemaking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 01:01 AM |
| 10 | Are there men who aren’t sexually dominant?I think a lot of people play dominant, whether they actually are is another matter entirely. I mean, the topic of this whole post was sexual dominance, not whether a guy is "dominant" in life or overall or something I don't really care if you're calling me dominant or not, I'm just saying I learned to be dominant in bed because girls enjoy it and I like having fun passionate sex that both parties enjoy a lot | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 12:58 AM |
| 13 | Are there men who aren’t sexually dominant?Not the earmark but the more traditionally masculine a guy is, the more likely it is he'll be into more dominant sex. I'm personally not into choking and spitting (yet) but I have learned to enjoy spanking, dirty talk, and taking dominant control. And the girls love it way more | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 11:55 PM |
| 5 | Are there men who aren’t sexually dominant?Oh interesting. How old were they | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 11:53 PM |
| 25 | Are there men who aren’t sexually dominant?It seems like almost every man I encounter is into choking, hair pulling, slapping, spanking, bondage, fisting or tying a woman up. Some enjoy it to an extreme, others only enjoy or practice elements of the above but still have a dominant vibe. I'd guess this might have more to do with the guys you go for - confident + masculine men. I think a lot of guys out there are into more vanilla sex, but maybe they're just not as attractive to you so you don't end up sleeping with them and finding out. P… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Its pretty interesting having a discussion with someone who identifies as White Pilled and is therefore my natural opposite. Hahaha linguistically maybe, but I see a lot of truth in each pill, I just think the "white pill" is the best way to approach the world. I think genetics + looks matter a lot, just like blackpillers believe - although I think they (at least the ones who believe this) are wrong that genetics are all that matters. I think things like game, physique, success, inner beliefs, s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 07:45 PM |
| 2 | Do you think age of puberty has affected your dating experience?Yeah being a late bloomer (combined with being raised to be quiet / shy / people-pleasing) made me unattractive to women until I reached college. I remember one time at a social event when I was about 12 (and looked maybe 10), I said hi to a girl next to me, just trying to make a friend, and she laughed at me and said she wasn't interested and walked away. Extreme example, not all girls are cunts like that, but that sort of revulsion she had came from my looks + quietness, I believe. I wasn't un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 06:14 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Because it's not within men's control Getting more jacked, learning to be more confident + assertive + flirt well, dressing decent, etc... all within men's control. Meanwhile your "guarantee" that most men trying to improve themselves are wasting their time, is completely baseless. As baseless as me saying "I guarantee that for most women, losing weight will not land them hotter men". It's just not true. Becoming more attractive (which is possible for either gender) improves your results. I know… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)I wouldn't tell myself fully BP as I'm doing something in direction of improvement ( atm losing extra kgs ), but at some point I'll need more extreme solutions to improve looks. Women do that then why shouldn't I resort to it ? Oh do whatever you want for sure, nothing wrong with it. Although I'd say (and I think even BPs recommend this) start with the soft looksmaxxing and see where that gets you, it can go a long way. Even losing weight like you mention, will make your face look a hell of a lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 03:35 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Dude, the rules of probability are part of the systematic definition of good poker strategy. They != results. Would you define "good poker strategy" as "whatever wins the hand?" No, and it's obvious why. That's the issue. Who says I'm defining "good game" as "whatever gets the girl"? Good game often leads to rejection, it's good game because it's a good overall long-term strategy. Like I said, I think you have game. I'm also aware you get rejected. I'm not defining game based on individual rejec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 07:05 AM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)There is no guarantee of results. I can guarantee that most of those guys will end up wasting their time. Yeah, you'd totally know that, as a 100 lb wife. Seriously you have the oddest level of conviction underneath your completely incorrect opinions and generalizations. C'mon dude, that's a bluepill. Everyone wants hot people and there aren't enough hot women to go around for everyone. That means Mr Average is competing with Chads for the hot girls. Wtf? Have you never noticed couples are simil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 07:00 AM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)And frankly, even then, women these days use the inevitable vibe a man gives off to tell what kind of man he really is. Vibe is all the rage these days precisely because it allows people to cut through the BS of words and get straight the truth. And women are much better at picking up vibes than men. This is incredibly true - this is actually the main way preselection is conveyed, through vibe. But that's why game works - you can practice it. Even if you're an inexperienced 25 year old, that's n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 01:48 AM |
| 2 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)You can't get away from the fact that "Game" is literally playing....games It's more than that tbh, it's also things like becoming more masculine, experienced, and sexually confident, which make you a lot more arousing to girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Wait, are you saying that a guy should go sexless for "a few years"? Did you entirely miss the sentence before that one? I said "a few months". The "few years" is just if you wanna get way better results from improving SMV + game over time. But can they get laid with a girl that they find hot? Yes. Human attraction works in cool ways. Ugly people can be attracted to other ugly people. Most humans can find other similarly-attractive humans to date, and find each other attractive. To reply to the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)No. If you approach a girl that you do not know, then you have to pay since you are the one that's more interested in her/sex than she is into you. The one that's more thirsty pays, no matter what gender. It was your idea from the beginning so you're the one paying. That's how this American dating/PUA thing works. If you do not pay then the whole thing will feel stupid and she will wonder what she's even doing with you since she wasn't even interested from the beginning The entirety of my dating… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)How long are these guys supposed to go sexless then? What if they improve but still don't get sex? Depends on the guy. I think even the average guy can get laid (with genuine desire from the girl) if he puts effort into it for a few months. Let alone if he works on his SMV over a few years, learns game, works on his online dating profile, practices cold approach, etc. Below average guys probably have it a lot harder, I'm sure some of them would be down for hookers, others would rather be celibat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)At least it's a good idea for them to pay while they are improving, right? Depends on the guy. A lot of us are turned off by the idea of paying someone to fuck us. A lot of sex is about the human connection and being desired, not just putting your cock in a warm hole. But yeah, if a guy is okay with paying for hookers, that could be a reasonable thing for him to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Yea I'm ending this convo now, you're just committed to discounting the experiences of everyone around you - mine, other women on Reddit, etc. All good though, have a nice day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)He doesn't need to pay if he dates a fat girl. But we both know that the implied deal is that the man pays for a chance at sex. They weren't fat, and I didn't pay. They were attractive, we flirted, we got to know each other, then we fucked. Wow, I finally remember why I remember your username. You're the same girl who tried to speak for ALL WOMEN saying that women ALWAYS visualize getting fucked by the guy in the porn they watch. Even though so many other female commenters were saying you were w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Lol ok so I'm talking to a chick who doesn't think Channing Tatum is insanely attractive to a lot of chicks. It's not like there was a whole movie about him being a super attractive male stripper that girls creamed over. Average guys can work on themselves and become above average. Ask me how I know | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Because if a woman wants to fuck a guy, she's just gonna fuck him. She's not gonna waste time on a date. Wtf? There's something called building chemistry, making sure the guy's cool and not creepy, building sexual tension, etc. Often much more fun and safe than going straight to a guy's house for sex with no buildup. How are you a girl and yet you somehow can't find a reason a girl would go on a drinks date other than "I want free booze"??? Plenty of women are looking to fuck for alcohol. Uhhh i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Those are not Chads. Chads are inherently attractive to women. Dude you have no idea what you're talking about. You think guys like Channing Tatum don't work on how they look, go to the gym, dress well, etc? Chads absolutely work on their looks. Most guys who suck ar football don't have the talent. They are better off doing something else. Not if they want to be mediocre at football. Most guys can do that. Same with chicks. Most guys can improve their looks and game, and have a mediocre dating l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 05:03 PM |
| 10 | Cold approach doesn't work unless you're attractive enough to not even need to cold approach100%. If I never cold approached ever, my laycount would be much lower. Sure I got rejected most of the time but those few successes are so worth it, I got some great adventures and great connections out of them, not to mention the practice + experience that translates into non-cold-approach interactions as well (e.g. dates). And there are also all the interactions that didn't lead to sex / a relationship, but maybe led to interesting/fun experiences, makeouts, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Actual Chads don't do tryhard things like dress up, they're naturally good with women. Looool this isn't even true, I have Chad friends and they put a lot of effort into their looks - they go to the gym regularly, they dress well, etc. Think of sports: is a 25 year old guy gonna become an NFL player by buying the outfit? No, but if a guy sucks at football (but wants to play on a team), he'd better start lifting weights, eating more food, and practicing football, so maybe he can join some city le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 03:06 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)How many men want to marry a woman who has traded sex for food? Traded sex for food? Again why are you operating under the pretense that to get laid, the guy has to buy her dinner? That's actually a poor strategy for getting casual sex - he's better off just grabbing a drink with her, and then from there, he flirts, he uses game if he has game, she finds him attractive and enjoys his personality, and they maybe go home and have sex. That's not "trading sex for food", that's mutually connecting w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Lol again - I've almost never paid for a date and it's never once been an issue. Including when I was the one to approach and ask the girl out. This is the issue with this sub, it's common RP knowledge that paying for a date isn't necessary, and yet people come here discussing things from the blue pill perspective as if the RP perspective just doesn't exist. Sure, no girl is gonna brag about splitting the bill but she's not gonna brag about the guy paying either. That's not something to brag abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 02:49 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)So your flair is just completely misleading :/ I'm not calling you toxic here, but the BP mindset can be extremely toxic. I've seen many guys online who are BP but have no reason to be (teenagers, attractive guys, or guys who aren't attractive but haven't put in work yet to try to raise their SMV in the first place) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)I won't give up completely until I've asked out 1,000 women That's cool man. Feel free to DM me in case I have any advice that may be of use. I might not be able to help, but if I am, it could make that journey easier for you (or at least might help you give it your best shot) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Legit women don't have a "dating life". They stay home, learn to cook, and get married. Nice of you to gatekeep being a "legit woman". Yeah, girls aren't allowed to go out on dates, they're not "legit" if they do that. I maintain 100 lbs year round. That's payment for my man staying with me. So your husband is a prostitute? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 08:12 AM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)It that was the case then men wouldn't be expected to pay. Again, they're often not. I've almost never paid for a girl on a date and it's never been an issue. Girl. As gimp-girl indicates. Tbh you sound like an incel the way you talk about things... Most guys are not gonna be desired. Especially in a time when women have hundreds of options who are better than the average guy. This just shows inexperience on your part if you think it's impossible for the average guy to be genuinely desired by a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 08:02 AM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Okay but understanding the very basics is the first step. Why is this so hard to understand lol, I'm commenting on dudes like the guy who doesn't understand why being a 30 year old virgin is unattractive. You don't think he has some reading to do before he goes and "practices"? Or are you a guy like that and you have no idea either lol? And goddamn what's with the blackpill BS... goddamn I hate seeing this nonsense everywhere that looks are 99% of the picture and that you're just doomed if you'r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 07:48 AM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Gotcha, yea sounds like you have your own reasons. All I can say is I'm sorry you went through that; I do think you're missing out because there are cool + healthy women out there (and trust me, I've had a good share of toxic women too - but I've also had awesome times with great women). But going back to our original convo, just cause you had traumatic experiences that made you not want to be with women anymore, doesn't mean that the average guy is "simping" just cause he does things to improve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 07:44 AM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Yeah so game is both like good music and art and like just music and art....lol proving my point. Meaningless. What? I've been saying this whole time that my analogy was "good music", not "just music". And yeah except in poker we know what correct strategy is...it isn't defined by the results, is it? Of course it is - but in the abstract probability sense. Good poker strategy is the strategy that will probabilistically get you positive outcomes. Same with good game - e.g. being a needy wimp is b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 07:42 AM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Jesus it hurts my eyes to see you keep calling it "buxx" lol. How much does the bar strategy cost you: dressing up, transport, cover charge, drinks, bruised ego when you get rejected? Again, could use the same shitty argument for a girl. How much does it cost her to have a dating life: makeup, gym membership, transport, bruised ego when a guy leaves her? Doesn't mean she's paying for male prostitutes by paying for makeup and a gym membership and an Uber to the date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 07:37 AM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)They could start by reading the damn TRP sidebar so that they're at least not confused why being a 30 year old male virgin is unattractive to chicks. Again, it's Game 101. You could at least understand the very basics of TRP / game before going to a subreddit that debates it. Also I'd disagree with your point anyway. You can learn from your failures, they're not binary - a classic example is learning to go from 10 second cold approach conversations to 1-minute-long ones, and then ones where you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 07:33 AM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Music and art as nouns have systematic definitions apart from them being experienced. "Good music" though? "Good art"? What are the systematic definitions of those? Cause those are the analogies to "game" (which really refers to "good game", i.e. what works well with chicks in general). There's plenty of times that the correct play will LOSE you the chick. So? There's plenty of times that playing the correct poker move will lose you the pot. That doesn't mean that good poker strategy doesn't exi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 07:31 AM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Civilians are just soft prostitution for guys who are too good to pay cash. "She's not fucking me because I spent 200 buxx on dates, 300 buxx on clothes, and make 80k a year. She's fucking me because I'm successful and women are attracted to that". Jesus are you a guy or a girl? If you're a guy, you're a classic example of someone on this sub who has no idea what TRP teaches. You don't need to spend "200 buxx" on dates, you can split the bill every single time and still get laid. As for buying c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 07:11 AM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Yeah because you're making a category mistake. Game's use as a concept is as a system that can produce results. Beautiful Art and goodness are qualities that don't rely on anything systemic to be useful. Again, just like people can practice + study art or music to get better at making good art / music (even though "good music" can come in many different forms), people can practice + study game to get better at seducing girls and having healthier relationships with them. It's not a category mista… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 07:06 AM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Game isn't a thing because it can't be defined concretely. Very simple. Lol bro you keep ignoring my questions/examples. Good music, beautiful art... those just don't exist because they can't be defined concretely? They have no insight because they don't have the same level of experience as I and maybe you do. It happens. And because they haven't touched the TRP sidebar, and yet somehow they found their way onto a sub that debates TRP :/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Using BP lingo, you'd probably call me a high-tier normie or maybe chad-lite. Definitely not a full chad face, too soft for that, no crazy jawline or cheekbones or anything. But yeah, I'd say I'm above average in looks. Especially after lifting weights for the past few years, which hasn't made me super jacked by any means, but has definitely made me a lot more attractive, including in my face. Btw to add, I don't have any crazy success (10-15 girls total), but game definitely helped me sleep wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 02:41 AM |
| 2 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)No | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 02:21 AM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)If you can't nail down concrete principles that constitute game, then they can't be falsified. Defining by the result is just inviting post hoc reasoning. Can you nail down concrete principles that constitute beautiful art? If not, does that mean beautiful art doesn't exist? And yeah, sure, alpha and beta traits are just tools with different effects, and beta traits (in moderation, ideally) are definitely useful in relationship contexts and for securing a hot chick longer term. FWIW personally I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 02:21 AM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Dude of course. This is all covered in the TRP sidebar. I wrote in my post that guys should be lifting weights (which both makes your body more sexually appealing, and sometimes your face too), dressing better (masculine + stylish hairstyle, good fashion), improving your dating profile (taking hundreds of photos and choosing the best ones), etc. I never said looks don't matter, I clearly gave examples of how they do matter and how you can work on them. The fact is that there are a bunch of thing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 02:03 AM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Yup, there is overlap, but there's non overlap too. With chicks I personally had to practice things like being sexually confident, creating and holding and playing around with sexual tension, not being fazed by rejection or shit tests, etc But ya the charisma involved in being good with job interviews can help lots too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)That's like saying good music doesn't exist because it can't be defined other than by the result (i.e. that some amount of people generally think it sounds good). And yet generally, even though there are different styles of music (rock, rap, classical, etc), most people would agree "good music" is not meaningless, and that in general, randomly smashing notes on a piano is gonna be bad music, and even that people can study music and learn how to make music that generally sounds nicer. Same thing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 11:09 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Ok and why is being non needy important? Again, presumably because it works, and meanwhile being needy is bad game Thing is man game can be nuanced, I've expressed anxiety in front of a chick before but it brought her closer to me not just because the vulnerability bonded us, but also because I was confident enough to show the anxiety without being a wimp about it. But the ironic thing is that while you keep discounting that game is a thing, I can tell you have game lol, a lot of it. You talk an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Do whatever the fuck you want and express yourself is rule 1. Again... A very valid and effective style of game. That's literally what so many PUAs have taught. Why is it rule 1 in your eyes? Cause it works well I assume And no not everything is good game. Calling a girl out can be awesome game like you described. It shows status and confidence which is extremely attractive. Buckling down and crying is horrible game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)5'8. My facial attractiveness depends on the angle and my leanness, at my best I'm a 7-8, at worst I'm a 5 probably | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Being smooth can't be anything, I wouldn't call a super nervous guy who can't look a girl in the eyes "smooth". Or a guy who gets defensive or embarrassed or angry from a shit test. Well you mentioned the ability to pull the trigger at the right moment. That's game right there. A lot of guys are too scared to even make a move in the first place (I myself had to practice that over time). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Being smooth can include what you're talking about with respect to making it a two way street. That's part of my game, letting a girl invest too and seduce me. Also FYI you're not who I'm talking about in my post, you clearly learned a lot of game on your own. I'm talking about the dudes who post asking why being a 30 year old virgin as a guy is a red flag. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Game definitely works, yes looks matter too, but there's a lot you can do outside of looks (and even within looks but without surgery). Half the chicks I've slept with, I met in person. I also used to do horrible on dating apps until I worked on my looks (without surgery) and my profile pictures and my text game | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 10:23 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)I don't think gimp girl was suggesting buying drinks at a bar. You're right, that would require game still to end up sleeping with her or having a relationship with her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Game is the behavioral traits that work well with girls (in attracting them, especially). A lot of things fall under that category including being confident, strong, smooth, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)I don't think this sub is specifically for debating the validity/existence of TRP. I think it is lol, that's basically what the sub description says | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)We can vaguely define game as what works well with chicks, and there are a lot of things in that topic that most successful guys in the manosphere can agree on, e.g. being smooth and confident which indicates to a girl you're experienced (preselection). I agree with a lot of your comment but disagree that words don't matter at all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)You're such a toxic person lol. And no, if I wanna get laid and I do things to help myself get laid, it's doing it for myself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Game is defined as the behavioral traits that work well with chicks. I gave a couple conceptual examples in my post - acting experienced, non-needy, smooth, etc, and also preselection which can be indicated through those traits. IIRC I also gave the example of confidently making a move when the time is right (e.g. last night I was on a date and we were touching arms as we walked, then we stopped at a beach and I hugged her from the back, kept talking to her, then at a silence I turned her face t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 10:07 PM |
| 0 | Is a Man Approaching a Woman in the Streets an Effective Way of Dating today?Hahahahah "I found a video". Nice Hi Sam. I'm a fan. Subbed to you after Karisma King made a video about you a while back | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Do you feel satisfied when a woman have chemistry with your invented character It's not an invented character. If anything, the type of game I learned, allowed me to be more myself than I used to be - I have fewer filters on how I talk, I act/talk more confidently, I feel free to make riskier jokes that I find really funny, etc. It's a beautiful thing honestly Another question , if you describe your childhood have ever had a sense of accomplishment outside the bedroom (other than women) do you h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 08:39 PM |
| 3 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Men, don’t fucking listen to this guy. Ya guys, don't listen to OP, he's telling you to not be a pessimistic victim and to actively improve your dating life! He's a SIMP! 🤦♂️ Improve for yourself, make money, go to gym, put hard boundaries, fuck as much as you get to FTR, all of these things are reasonable and/or useful things to do. None of my post contradicts doing these things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Gimpgirl555 suggests guys buy hookers instead of learning how to be more attractive and have quality relationships. Interesting. I mean, sure, if a guy is satisfied just having hookers in his life, I guess that works? Most guys don't want that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)So what’s your problem? Everyone should live like you? I like to game and mindlessly fuck, and i still have respect for men who make their own decisions for their own circumstances. Oh the irony. My post was just saying it's useful to learn game, and generally it's true - generally guys enjoy having quality relationships and/or hookups with girls. It's not common that a guy genuinely wants to have a nonexistent dating life. His response was "you're a simp for putting in any effort into getting l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 08:28 PM |
| 2 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Some of us are on this sub to debate whether the so-called “game” is rigged, biologically and socially in the modern day. Sure, but you need to at least know what game is in order to debate it. If that’s what you believe, why are you on this sub? Cause I find TRP interesting to talk about has to have some resolution, compromise, or light at the end of the tunnel The resolution is getting good with girls and having an enjoyable dating life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 07:39 PM |
| 2 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)it's just natural chats around the bar, and exchanging numbers at the end of the evening Yup, sounds like good game to me haha. Game shouldn't be weird and pickup-liney, it should come across as smooth + natural + not a big deal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Sure, you can't just lay the foundation, you've also got to make the effort. I'm a Gen-Xr, and I guess my generation had it a bit easier, because we were always big "barflies". There's no denying that we are a huge nightclub generation. Ahh nice. Sounds like there was a lot of natural game going on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 07:11 PM |
| 2 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Game works way better with chicks. I got chicks when I was poor and sleeping on my friend's couch, I'd literally fuck them in the living room while my friend was in his bedroom. And I'm not some uber chad either, it was learning game that helped me do that stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Meh, game is more than that. Yeah it's important to do what you enjoy in life and sounds like you're doing good things (good career, going to the gym, enjoying it all, etc). But game also comes into play when you actually talk to chicks and go on dates with them. And especially in the context of this post, at the very least know what's attractive to women: being experienced, smooth (which comes from experience + practice), successful, physically fit / strong, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)We've been talking about what works with chicks. If you disagree with me that wage matters a lot, and then cite some random woman who says you should pay for dinner as evidence for your disagreement... definitely seems like you're implying that she's right that men should pay for dinner. Otherwise it has nothing to do with your claim that wage matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 06:50 PM |
| 4 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)I mean that's what shocks me, my post is literally "you should at least know what TRP teaches if you're on a sub that debates TRP" which is just about the most basic claim you could make on this sub. I guess I also included "TRP / game works" as a claim in my post that would fall more under the actual purpose of this sub (i.e. to debate if TRP / game works). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 06:48 PM |
| 3 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Enjoy implementing 'game' doing a shit ton of work for a very mild benefit I've already experienced way more than a "very mild" benefit from learning game. It helped me both get laid more and also maintain healthier dynamics in relationships. It's sad that you gravitate more towards the pessimistic outlook of "it won't work, some Chad will steal my girl anyway" instead of the optimistic outlook of "I'll improve my SMV and my game as much as possible to reap the greatest rewards I can". And guara… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 06:47 PM |
| 3 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)I'm sorry but women say different Lol ok, and my experience with women says very different. Women say a lot of stuff, doesn't mean they actually know what works. Like I mentioned in my post, part of having good game means being more nonchalant when you flirt and acting like you've done it 1000 times before. Not many chicks are gonna recommend guys do that, but it works. "Yes, of course you have to buy her dinner" - dude I'm not sure how you can call yourself red pilled in your flair without know… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 06:28 PM |
| 4 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Do you want to be with women because they make you genuinely happy Yes. There's really not much more to reply to. That's the main point. It's fucking fun to have good chemistry with girls, have a fun flirty date, cuddle and fuck the shit outta them, etc. Way more fun than staying at home telling myself "I don't need chicks anyway" lol. To borrow your metaphor: Of course we do not put effort into job interviews with women. Because we are running our own shit. We are self employed and thus do not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 06:24 PM |
| 3 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Doesn't sound like you disagree at all. We both agree that knowing what good game is, is the first step. That's what my post is about. I'm shocked guys here don't even know the first step, e.g. knowing the basic things TRP teaches women are attracted to (and why). I agree that knowing what good game is, doesn't mean you have good game. You have to practice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)For a lot of guys yeah I agree. But I'm especially shocked at the guys here who just don't seem to even know anything about game / TRP - the issue for them isn't even necessarily that they're lazy, but that they somehow don't even know anything about game in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 05:44 PM |
| 2 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)Lol, it's called owning your life and creating the life you want. Why does it matter if a guy goes to the gym and learns how to act attractively to get laid? He's still getting what he wants in the end. Like, sure, you can be a victim who decides "I'd rather not get laid than put effort into getting laid" but then you're just choosing to lose, out of some false sense of pride. Like someone who refuses to practice for a job interview because that's "simping" for the employer. It's just choosing t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 05:34 PM |
| 5 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)self improvement has very limited influence if your face still being avg or your wage is... 100% disagree with this. That's like saying "having a great face" has very limited influence if you don't go to the gym. Everything is a factor, everything you improve will raise your SMV. If you have an average or below average face, dressing better, looking more successful, being more charismatic, etc will all still improve your SMV proportionally to how much you improve those factors. Not to mention th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 05:31 PM |
| 4 | Men on this sub should know/understand game (but a lot of you don't seem to)It's silly to expect a sub designed for learning and debate for everyone to be on the same level. Not everyone will be on the same level, of course, but on a sub designed for debating whether TRP is true, it's odd to see so many people (especially guys) who seem to have almost no idea what TRP teaches. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 05:16 PM |
| 1 | “Women are NOT a hive mind “, yet in any content where they Interview a group of women, their answers ALWAYS mirror each other’sI think lilith is borderline retarded. So I can't agree with you there. From what I've seen GR is much more reasonable. And again she wrote out a whole list of attraction triggers for men and women that were actually accurate. Most chicks don't do that shit. Also you don't seem to recognize me but I've seen you around a whole bunch on this sub for the last year, and you and I have extremely similar beliefs. You're one of the few red pill guys on this sub I actually respect and I think properly u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/21 04:38 AM |
| 2 | “Women are NOT a hive mind “, yet in any content where they Interview a group of women, their answers ALWAYS mirror each other’sGridrexx and lilith believe pretty much the same things regarding intersexual dynamics. Gridrexx seems way more knowledgeable about attraction than even most "red pill" men on this sub. Her flair used to be "Attraction Triggers Nazi" and I once asked her about it, and she elaborated with a pretty reasonable and insightful description of the traits men vs women are attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/21 03:50 PM |
| 4 | “Women are NOT a hive mind “, yet in any content where they Interview a group of women, their answers ALWAYS mirror each other’sEver talk to Cimorene86, or MrsDrgree, or GridRexx, and compare conversations with them to convos with Lilith or other female posters here? There is definitely a variety of women on this sub with different opinions and perspectives | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/21 02:04 PM |
| 13 | “Women are NOT a hive mind “, yet in any content where they Interview a group of women, their answers ALWAYS mirror each other’sUh, no, even on this sub it's easy to see women with different opinions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/21 06:15 AM |
| 12 | What's your shallowest turnoff ?Let's be honest, it turned you on "I have so much to teach you baby" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Men Don't Simp Because They Want To Men Simp Because They Have To🤦♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/21 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Men Don't Simp Because They Want To Men Simp Because They Have ToLOL tell me how many times that's worked for you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/21 04:18 PM |
| 2 | Men Don't Simp Because They Want To Men Simp Because They Have ToHow does simping help? Unless you're just defining simping as paying for hookers? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/21 01:58 PM |
| 2 | Men Don't Simp Because They Want To Men Simp Because They Have ToEven if it can't be fixed with game alone (which you don't necessarily know for yourself - you don't seem to know game at all, so you don't yet know how learning it will change your results), simping will not help. Because simping is the opposite of good game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/21 04:49 AM |
| 1 | Men Don't Simp Because They Want To Men Simp Because They Have ToDude, if you know anything at all about game, anything, you know that simping is a horrible strategy for getting girls in your life. Being good with girls is all about being the opposite of a simp. Even on these skewed dating apps, you don't stand out by being a simp, you stand out by texting in a cool, nonchalant, and flirty way. No man needs to simp. It's just a bad strategy. Go learn game bro | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/21 03:45 AM |
| 3 | Does being not like the other girls (nlog) gives you an advantage in the dating market?Being attractive is the most important, but I do think that in an LTR context, a girl being more "unique" can make a guy more particularly attracted and committed to her. A couple reasons come to mind: He sees more value in her that's unique to his preferences She feels more "loyal" / "safe" because other guys might be less likely to be uniquely interested in her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/21 07:41 PM |
| 1 | This study comes to a conclusion that as time progresses, women's love and sexual desire for their husband decreases while men's love and sexual desire for their wife remains relatively stable.No amount of talking in the world is going to mitigate her options and her lack of attraction to you. Well, we were talking in the context of marriages being least functional / least happy while the kids are teenagers, right? In which case I wouldn't boil it down to "she has more options and is less attracted", but rather something like the stresses of raising teenagers dripping into the relationship. In reality when the kids are teenagers, she's much older and I'd expect her to have fewer datin… | /r/BlackPillScience | 19/10/21 06:36 PM |
| 2 | This study comes to a conclusion that as time progresses, women's love and sexual desire for their husband decreases while men's love and sexual desire for their wife remains relatively stable.Consistently happy does not mean in limerance though. Yeah lol that was my point, that's why I said I'd be interested to see where the 7% limerance stat came from I don't really care about satisfying every single naysayer Not a naysayer at all, I actually have big respect for you and I'm not surprised there's a good number of happy marriages out there. I can especially imagine that being more the case for lower-SMV couples - I think being higher SMV makes relationships much less stable because y… | /r/BlackPillScience | 19/10/21 04:42 PM |
| 1 | This study comes to a conclusion that as time progresses, women's love and sexual desire for their husband decreases while men's love and sexual desire for their wife remains relatively stable.Doesn't that graph show that 29.6% of marriages end up "consistently happy"? Would be interested to see the source of the 7% eternal-limerance figure | /r/BlackPillScience | 19/10/21 03:36 PM |
| 2 | Red Pillers: how much experience have you had with actual women?I wouldn't want to identify myself with labels like these because people's notion of what those labels include may differ from what I actually think/feel. But again... those labels legitimately don't apply to you. They do apply to many people in those communities. Sure, labels aren't perfect but they can be very useful even for individuals. I now have a "white pilled" flair because "red pill" as a label has become too ambiguous, while "white pill" narrows down more accurately the beliefs I hold … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/21 06:28 PM |
| 3 | Red Pillers: how much experience have you had with actual women?Yeah, labels like this are generally cringe and stupid, IMO. For example, I'm a guy who has been single for a long time, just focusing on my career, avoiding relationships etc, but calling myself a MGTOW would attach a lot of other, undesired negative things to me. Labels are useful. If you were intentionally avoiding relationships out of some belief that women aren't good for relationships or something, "MGTOW" would maybe be an appropriate label for you. I also understand the "pretty privilege… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/21 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Red Pillers: how much experience have you had with actual women?Now I look back on a time in which I didn't have any of this "knowledge", at how naïvely confident, carefree, and relaxed I was, and how this made me connect with women on all levels. I respect guys who found the opposite, but for me deep diving into TRP has distorted my view of women to a point beyond caricature which has nothing to do with how actual women in my life behave. Anyone else can relate? Yes I can relate, but that doesn't mean TRP is wrong, it just means that obsessing over how alph… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/21 05:46 PM |
| 6 | Why don’t straight women like bisexual men?It makes them see the guy as less masculine IMO. It's the flip side to girls often being aroused by traditionally masculine behavioral traits like dominance and leadership | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/21 07:25 PM |
| 8 | Women do not want sex as much as men do, otherwise we'd overpopulate the world within a generationOne common argument I hear: "women want sex just as much as men, but only with the top 20% of men". We would still overpopulate the world in this scenario. Lol have you never been in the honeymoon phase? Couples often fuck like rabbits at that time. Yeah on the whole women have lower sex drives but with a guy they're really into, it's sex sex sex. Yes, in ancestral times it would lead to babies - that's the point, we evolved to make babies. That's the reason some guys on here will share stories … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/21 05:03 PM |
| 4 | Men Mistake Being A Passive Doormat As Being Nice Then Claim Women Don’t Want Nice Guys.I don't believe that's the reason - I think the reason has more to do with things like lack of self awareness, the common trope that "there's someone out there for you who loves you just for you - just keep being yourself", etc. Not that I'm blaming anyone for not teaching guys they should work on their confidence and assertiveness if they want to become more attractive. It's not malicious on anyone's part. But either way we can at least acknowledge a lot of guys are actively taught that being a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/21 05:39 PM |
| 5 | Men Mistake Being A Passive Doormat As Being Nice Then Claim Women Don’t Want Nice Guys.When women say we like kind guys the “also is assertive and confident” part is silent. Okay but then you're keeping "silent" the traits that are actually directly sexually attractive to women. Being kind is a desirable trait especially in a long term relationship. It doesn't get a pussy wet though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/21 03:40 PM |
| 6 | Q4All: Have you ever told a friend why you thought they weren't successful in dating? What happened?and was crying about him every goddamn time we hung out. It got annoying and the solution was so simple: JUST STOP SEEING HIM. This applies to a lot of both men and women. Romantic attachment can be a bitch | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/21 09:56 PM |
| 1 | [Q4All]How high is the bar for being “girlfriend material”?I'm just pretty sure it's an objectively messy decision that doesn't do most people a lot of good- especially women whose hookups don't even pleasure them. This is not true, it's possible for both guys and girls to enjoy casual hookups. Sure, it's also possible for both guys and girls to have non-pleasurable hookups but that doesn't mean casual sex is never enjoyable or net-positive for both parties. It often is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/21 08:09 PM |
| – | This is what white knights believeSo? He said good genetics, not "technically above average genetics". And look at the context, he's talking about guys with good genetics being able to get away with being a beta pushover, he's not talking about the average (or technically above average which you're saying is one out of every two guys) guy here Love you too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/21 06:38 AM |
| 1 | Most guys aren't really trying that hardLol bro this guy is clearly an extreme anomaly case. 99% of the guys on this sub complaining about being "doomed for life" don't have 10/10 bodies combined with cranialfacio deformities. OP is not wrong here, he's just got enough IQ to realize this guy is a special case for whom surgery might actually be worth it. OP literally admits this guy has "put in the fucking work", he's not the "most guys" OP was talking about in his post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/21 08:05 PM |
| 2 | Most guys aren't really trying that hardyes. ive consulted with lots of surgeons. would be looking at 40,000$ ish to look ‘ugly’ instead of ‘disgusting’. Could still be worth it man, if you can afford it somehow. Not even just for the girls but even for things like career. Sorry about your situation. I hope you have other things in life (friends, hobbies, etc) that keep you happy as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/21 07:49 PM |
| 1 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsDefinitely not bad, most of the comments are entirely reasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/21 02:38 PM |
| 1 | One reason people hate the red pill is because society, especially women, have a desire to keep people in their tier/league.Male attraction is also extremely shallow. End of the day nearly every human has superficial attraction traits (guys care about looks, girls care about looks / alpha traits / etc) as the main priority in choosing partners, and then personality matters too but it's often secondary | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/21 12:53 PM |
| 1 | One reason people hate the red pill is because society, especially women, have a desire to keep people in their tier/league.A lot of them probably did, that doesn't mean they were mainstream. A lot of guys are raised to be meek and people pleasing for example and that's the opposite of what works optimally with girls | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/21 12:50 PM |
| 2 | One reason people hate the red pill is because society, especially women, have a desire to keep people in their tier/league.Aaaand this is why my flair is "white pilled" lol. Although it's still red because I still support most of the ideas in the TRP sidebar, and the more pure idea that you describe TRP used to be about. Just a shame most of the community doesn't represent that idea | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/21 02:05 PM |
| 4 | One reason people hate the red pill is because society, especially women, have a desire to keep people in their tier/league.most 99% of women are vile in their sexual judgement Lol dude nearly every human out there doesn't make the most ideal choices when it comes to who we date / fuck. We're all monkeys. Not sure what you mean by vile here, most women sleep with normal guys who happen to have attractive traits to them. If 99% of men they choose are vile that would say something about men lol, that would mean there are a looot of vile men out there, which there aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/21 02:02 PM |
| 2 | One reason people hate the red pill is because society, especially women, have a desire to keep people in their tier/league.It does work though. There are ways to present red pill ideas in ways that make even people on this sub see them as reasonable. Ive often played a game on this sub of seeing how many times I can say something red pilled and have both blue and red pullers agree with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/21 01:58 PM |
| 1 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?LOL not even the creepy old school PUAs would say something like that as a neg, they'd do negs as backhanded compliments, not as random insults | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 10:12 PM |
| 1 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?By "it doesn't matter" I meant just because shit tests can graduate over time into abuse doesn't mean shit tests themselves are abuse. Feel free to pump and dump if that's what you enjoy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 10:11 PM |
| 1 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?Literally the only times I would say that to a guy are admiring weight loss or as an inroad to offering to cook for him. Both are flirtatious. Ok, well the example I'm giving is a different context, a chick told me that on a first date in a tonality that implied it was a bad thing I was skinny (i.e. instead of having more muscle). It was a shit test to see if she could irk me. Not an invitation to cook me food. I had sex with her later that night. Wrong. You don't flirt with men, presumably. The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 09:09 PM |
| 1 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?Lol most guys are beta cucks who don't know how to pass a shit test or prevent themselves from being abused. And again, for the last time, my main point is that shit tests are not abuse. Use the correct terminology. It doesn't matter if it starts out as shit tests and then the guy fails them and she loses respect and eventually starts abusing him. Shit tests are not abuse, shit tests are mild jabs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 08:30 PM |
| 0 | The average man is not doing bad with the average woman when it comes to sex.So your example of "60% of men having sex 1-3x/month shows" still falls into this above definition. Not necessarily. You're claiming the top 80% of women fuck the top 20% of men. That's 4 women per guy in the top 20%, on average. So that leaves the bottom 20% of women for the remaining 80% of men to fuck. Meanwhile, we know from Lilith's stats that 60% of men are regularly getting laid. So what, you're claiming the bottom 20% of women are fucking 40% out of the bottom 80% of men? 4 women regular… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 08:28 PM |
| 1 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?"You're so skinny" is a weird way to flirt if that's your way of flirting. And yeah a shit test can sometimes be a form of flirting, but in those cases it's specifically a form of flirting that involves saying something to see how the guy reacts (is he insecure, or is he cool and going to have a quip back). It's specifically a female thing to test out the guy's self-esteem and mental frame, guys don't do this stuff, it'd be seen as rude and maybe even misogynistic if they did | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 08:16 PM |
| 2 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?Manipulation, deceit, fraud, and subterfuge are always domestic violence. No they're not. I know you're enjoying your flair "I get to decide" but you can't just make up whatever definitions you want lol. Domestic violence is physical. Dude, if someone's abusing you, you don't need to punch a wall, just leave the relationship. Let alone that a "shit test" is not abuse. You're getting both the definition of "shit test" and the definition of "domestic violence" completely incorrect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 08:12 PM |
| 1 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?Shit tests when they're small are easily bearable. If you can pass shit tests, they shouldn't be getting worse. It's easy to deal with a little tease here and there and maybe tease her back (or use one of the other techniques) to pass the small shit test. Really not a big deal, it can actually stay playful, you keep your dignity and your self respect, and even she respects you. If you fail, like you (and I, in that rel I mentioned) did, that's when she starts treating you worse, things turn into… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 04:28 PM |
| 10 | The average man is not doing bad with the average woman when it comes to sex.She's making a valid point though. Yeah she tagged on an insult as well, but at least there was a point she was making. Your comment is purely calling her out for making the insult, without adding any concrete points yourself. I actually agree with Lilith here, 60% of men having sex 1-3x/month shows that it's not only the top 20% of men who can get laid. Hookups might be a different story, as Lilith admitted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 04:23 PM |
| 1 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?You don't pass a shit test. Yes you do, I'm sorry if you haven't learned how to yet, but that doesn't mean there's not a way to pass a shit test. That's the whole idea of it being a "test" and there being a way for PUAs and TRPers to learn how to "pass" them. If you pass, you earn respect and attraction in her eyes - I and many other guys have experienced this. If you fail them, she loses respect and her treatment of you becomes worse, which you (and I) have both experienced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 04:18 PM |
| 2 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?In what clown world is a shit test equal to "healthy communication" - This is a defense of shitty behavior. That's not what I said, you misunderstood. You said that the abuse started as shit tests. I.e. at one point it was just shit tests, and then later it turned into abuse. I'm saying even before it was shit tests, it was healthy communication. It doesn't matter if one led to another, they're distinct things. Healthy communication is not shit tests, and shit tests are not abuse. Doesn't matter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 02:50 PM |
| 2 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?vi·o·lence /ˈvī(ə)ləns/ noun behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something. Any examples of violent shit tests you're thinking of? And while we're trying to confirm ridiculous equivalencies, let's maybe also think of examples of how teasing a girl is always rape? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 02:46 PM |
| 1 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?Isn't the supposed "shit testing" like, asking a guy to hold your purse at the mall, or saying "do I look fat in this dress", or dithering about where to order takeaway from or whatever? Not quite, it's more things like "do you say that to all the girls" when you're flirting with her, or "you're so skinny" on a first date, etc. Little jabs to test out a guy's mental frame and self-esteem. But yes, these things should not lead to violence lol. This post is ridiculous | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 02:32 PM |
| 2 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?No, those are very real abuse that start with shit tests and escalate. That's like saying "healthy communication leads to domestic violence" because abuse always starts out as healthy communication. A shit test is a more benign "jab" of sorts, that a girl might unconsciously do for the sake of testing out how mentally strong you are. Yeah, maybe this girl shit tested you at first, but then it became abuse, not shit tests. Demanding to know where you are every hour is not an attempt to test your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 02:19 PM |
| 2 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?The craziest person I've been with was a lady who decided that I needed to notify her about where I was at all times. Calls on the hour every hour. Walk into the fucking house and it's like walking into an interrogation followed by drama, throwing things. I've got a couple friends going through similar things. Thing is... those aren't shit tests. Calls every hour makes her a toxic and paranoid girlfriend, and suggests mental health issues. Throwing things is equally toxic behavior. And I'm guess… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 01:57 PM |
| 2 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?Alright man, storytime, let's hear your stories of these horrifying shit tests you've experienced that would lead you to violence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 01:32 PM |
| 2 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?Yes, I am well versed in shit tests. They never involve physical force. There is a clear, distinct line between a shit test and domestic violence. Not many things in life are black and white. This one is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 01:22 PM |
| 2 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?When does shit testing behaviour and normalisation of it create an environment for domestic violence? It doesn't. Whether a guy chooses to become violent is entirely his choice. Not once have I been shit tested and wanted to become violent. Nobody in the PUA or TRP community recommends getting violent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 01:21 PM |
| 10 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?When does "shit testing" become domestic violence? It doesn't. Those are two separate things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 04:30 AM |
| 4 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?Dude you're asking where the line is between shit tests and violence is. The line is physical force. That is my answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 04:27 AM |
| 7 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?it is inline with Erin Pizzey's research She doesn't talk about shit tests or women withholding sex, she talks about women often being equally or more violent than their husbands. vi·o·lent /ˈvī(ə)lənt/ adjective using or involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something. So no, withholding sex does not count as violence, it counts as not wanting to have someone put their penis inside you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 03:20 AM |
| 7 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?Dude this thread is ridiculous. You think a girl who doesn't want to have sex with her boyfriend (which btw is not necessarily a shit test, and even if it was, punching a wall is not the way to pass it)... is trying to make him violent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 03:08 AM |
| 2 | Women's ideal isn't "asshole." The reality is that many men don't know how to achieve her ideal w/o defaulting to "asshole."The thing is: an attraction to "asshole" behavior, based on a presumed relationship to status hierarchy/dominance/importance, is probably indicative of poor socialization or sublimal trauma. I'd argue it's not based on a presumed relationship, it's an evolved mental wiring that all of us humans have that unconsciously associates certain types of asshole behavior to being high status. Those "certain types" of asshole behavior are often tied with other behavior traits like speaking loudly with no/… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 03:05 AM |
| 4 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?I posted a candid example of how the shit testing" dynamic can become domestic violence. So where's the line? The line is violence. It's a pretty clear line lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 02:42 AM |
| 10 | When does "shit testing" become domestic violence?Wtf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 01:51 AM |
| 6 | Women's ideal isn't "asshole." The reality is that many men don't know how to achieve her ideal w/o defaulting to "asshole."That's an incredibly broad definition lol, everyone lacks something. I can’t think of a single bully who wasn’t lacking in some way. They all had some trauma or lack of parental guidance that led to that. Again, doesn't describe the bullies I can remember (who weren't necessarily huge bullies, just cool kids who'd make fun of other kids sometimes). Maybe you're picturing some dysfunctional bully with a buzzcut but I'm literally just picturing the sort of thing almost everyone in school does at s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/21 12:00 AM |
| 2 | Women's ideal isn't "asshole." The reality is that many men don't know how to achieve her ideal w/o defaulting to "asshole."No, I just disagree that bullying someone always means you're insecure. Definition: not firmly fixed; liable to give way or break. 2. (of a person) not confident or assured; uncertain and anxious. Thinking back to any of the kids who'd occasionally bully me in highschool, I would not describe them as "uncertain and anxious". Bullying is just a social phenomenon humans evolved which can communicate status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/21 10:28 PM |
| 2 | Women's ideal isn't "asshole." The reality is that many men don't know how to achieve her ideal w/o defaulting to "asshole."Meh, you could be secure in your leadership and still feel like asserting it even more. Doing X to achieve Y doesn't have to mean you're insecure. Like, getting your wife flowers to make her happy doesn't have to mean you're insecure about how happy she is in the relationship. Anyway my main point was that being the right kind of asshole (the type where it's actually indicative of some social status that gives you the confidence to act the way you do) can be directly arousing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/21 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Women's ideal isn't "asshole." The reality is that many men don't know how to achieve her ideal w/o defaulting to "asshole."I think kids bully each other to establish themselves as the most confident, competent, and assured. Not sure about competent, but confident + assured maybe, and most importantly, higher in the status hierarchy than the kid they're bullying. That’s why bullies (assholes) tend to be highly volatile and can’t handle any semblance of critical feedback. They tend to become undone, flustered, and obstinate. Their entire persona is built on sandcastle AKA shaky foundation. I'm not convinced of this. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/21 09:45 PM |
| -1 | The "asshole" debate boils down to guys who act like they're better than you when they're notAgain, you're conflating "confidence / arrogance can be sexy" with the idea that confidence / arrogance brainwash women into logically believing some fact about the guy like that he's actually good at stuff he's not. Turning a girl on is just an emotional thing, it doesn't make her think any beliefs about you. A girl can think you're an asshole at the same time as your behavior turns her on, and she won't think "you're amazing" but she'll still be wet and wanna fuck you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/21 09:38 PM |
| 15 | Women's ideal isn't "asshole." The reality is that many men don't know how to achieve her ideal w/o defaulting to "asshole."I agree with a lot of your post. I think the only nuance you're missing is that "being an asshole" can quite directly be attractive behavior - it's not just that it's closer to self-assurance, it's that it can be inherently linked to position on the invisible dominance/status hierarchy. Now that I think about it, I think what I just said also relates to why kids bully each other in the first place - it's often for the sake of establishing position on that hierarchy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/21 09:32 PM |
| 3 | The "asshole" debate boils down to guys who act like they're better than you when they're notIn a male environment if a guy acts like he's hot shit but can't actually back it up with his skills and performance in the field, every man in that social/work environment is going to know he's a phony asshole. But a woman from outside the group might fall for his unearned arrogance and mistake it for confidence, assertiveness, and high status. When really it comes from a place of insecurity because he and all of the other guys know he isn't shit. You're thinking way too face value about this s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/21 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Proof that guys here mainly chase bimbos and e-thots.Not guys here. 🤦♂️ Lilith I've seen you on this sub for more than a year. You're seriously under the belief that every single man here is the exact same and into the exact same types of chicks? You haven't noticed a massive variation in beliefs and thoughts from men on this sub? You haven't noticed there are blue pilled, red pilled, and black pilled men on this sub, and everything in between? Let alone the diverse individuality even within those categories? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/21 05:48 PM |
| 3 | The gender gap in sexual desire primarily exists because the majority of men are unattractive.Ugly women can get laid at the drop of a hot (and thus pass on their shitty genes to the next gen, creating more ugly men!) whereas ugly men can't get laid on the drop of a hat, that's nature for you. Isn't this the exact gender gap in sexual desire you're trying to explain with "men are uglier"? Wouldn't the fact that ugly women don't experience the same phenomenon imply "men are uglier" isn't the reason? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/21 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Study Idea: who’s the most desirable?Plus I don’t trust ppl who say or think they have good game or are “masters of NLP”. I would have to vet that like cray. Well the data would corroborate their idea that they have good game (or at least that they can change the "quality" of their game on demand). If they didn't have an ability to control their attractiveness on some level simply by changing how they talk / interact, the control group shouldn't consistently have different results than the experimental group. We could also even kin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/21 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Which man would woman rather date? (look below)Phew, we're safe again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/21 03:15 PM |
| 4 | Study Idea: who’s the most desirable?And boom, we can finally determine to some degree the affect of social status and game on desirability for men. It'd also be interesting to test the effect of game using a controlled study involving a guy who knows game (e.g. a PUA / dating coach) , and have them use game on one group, and intentionally use bad game on a control group, and see the difference that simply how you talk to a girl can make. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/21 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Please Lilly stop. They're already dead.A non-conformist, disagreeable, observational attitude works wonders for men. I highly recommend it. I dislike that you're right about this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/21 12:43 AM |
| 7 | Most men here find this average woman attractive and would date her, most women here do not find this average man attractive and would not date himMen should stop thinking about physical features. The ideal is actually to work on looking as good as you can, because it does matter, but to have the mindset that it doesn't matter, and that you're the shit just for who you are. That way you get the benefit of looking good but also the benefit of having a strong grounded frame and high core confidence, without feeling any insecurity about how you look. It definitely doesn't weigh almost nothing, looks can make a big difference, but there is als… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/21 12:06 AM |
| 3 | Most men here find this average woman attractive and would date her, most women here do not find this average man attractive and would not date himFrom what I've heard about nursing homes, this may actually be correct | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/21 12:00 AM |
| 58 | Most men here find this average woman attractive and would date her, most women here do not find this average man attractive and would not date himWomen don't care about men's looks They do, but it's only one factor in the equation - there's also personality, game, ambition, physical fitness, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Proof that guys here mainly chase bimbos and e-thots.My point is, this guy is not representative of all guys here like you're implying. Guys are into different types of chicks, you've got guys here who are into librarians, chubby chicks, party girls, shy girls, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 07:21 PM |
| 1 | To all men in this subredditAnd again, I get that what you're suggesting may be true for average and above average men. That's perfectly reasonable and I'm not gonna discourage them. If they can just work in their shape, style and conversational skills to make it - good for them! This whole conversation from the start has been me saying guys here lead other men to think "the average man" is doomed for life. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you missed that. As for the suit thing... it's not a golddigge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 03:58 PM |
| 1 | Proof that guys here mainly chase bimbos and e-thots.That's GayLubeOil who posted that, he's an experienced/endorsed TRP contributor who likes being jacked and sleeping with hot chicks, and yes, it looks like these are the kinds of chicks he goes for. So? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 03:50 PM |
| 1 | To all men in this subredditDifferent things will work for different people; generally there's something a guy can do to get laid. If you're a short, balding, inexperienced man, maybe your best bet is to be in as good shape as possible (which is good for your health anyway), get some pictures of you dressed well (e.g. definitely a suit pic) and ideally taken from below so you look taller / more masculine in your online dating profile, and then probably join a bunch of social groups as well so that you can try to get girls … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 03:13 PM |
| 1 | To all men in this subredditI had a conversation with you just the other day, though, you've had relationships before so you're not incel, you're not exactly the kinda guy I'm talking about right now. Unless you're saying you've been convincing guys here that the average man shouldn't even try working on himself to improve his SMV because it won't work? In which case, yeah, you are the kinda guy who I'm talking about, and that's very lame for you to convince guys to give up before they've even tried. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 02:10 PM |
| 1 | To all men in this subredditIt's only true that genetics contribute to your attractiveness. But the average man can absolutely do things like work out for a few years, dress better, learn how to talk to girls / set up dates, and get laid more than he used to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 02:04 PM |
| 1 | To all men in this subredditAfter all getting laid once to a toothless whore Ahhh very scientific of you Also the trend of sexlessness is rising. So? We're talking about if the average guy, today, is just unfuckable, as you were saying. I don't care about where you project the future to be. More than 69% of guys evidently are fuckable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 07:04 AM |
| 1 | To all men in this subredditthe science is a myth 31% of men reported not having sex in the last year (and some of those could just be on a dry spell, too). That's 69% of men who had sex in the last year. But yeah, the average guy can't get laid right? The science is on your side, right retard? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 06:14 AM |
| 1 | To all men in this subredditSure man, I know nothing at all, I'm surely not an average dude who can get laid, and I don't know anything about TRP terms Dude I know below average guys who can still get laid, albeit with girls I would never go for myself. How can you possibly think the average guy can't get laid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 05:58 AM |
| 0 | To all men in this subreddit............... you have no idea what hypergamous means, do you. It doesn't mean the average man can't get laid, nor does it mean the average man can't intentionally increase his SMV. Honestly dude, the word "hypergamy" got famous in the manosphere due to TRP, and you're trying to use it as if it proves TRP is wrong and self improvement does nothing for your dating life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 05:21 AM |
| 3 | To all men in this subredditNo, men convincing each other that the average man is doomed for life by his genetics and shouldn't even try to improve himself because "self improvement is a lie". Men convincing other men to feel ugly and give up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 02:53 AM |
| 1 | Minimum requirements to get a date with an average woman in 2021That guy is either high or turned on (or both), look at those pupils | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 02:27 AM |
| 1 | When all men take a week long holiday, the world will be like:Fair enough man, I appreciate your positivity as well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 02:25 AM |
| 2 | To all men in this subredditYep, I agree for the most part. There are a few men here who I think do give good advice, but not most of them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 01:06 AM |
| 1 | When all men take a week long holiday, the world will be like:no professional photo shoot or anything Oh dude, it makes a huge difference. With a single photoshoot I started getting like 5-10x as many matches. Feel free to DM me if you haven't given up yet and you want a couple tips on it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 12:31 AM |
| 1 | When all men take a week long holiday, the world will be like:If you're not going to engage in good faith, there is no reason to continue. Right back at you man, I also brought up the very real statistic of women getting raped + sexually assaulted far more than men. Yes, prostitutes generally are not as discerning. Lmao the hypocrisy. Speaking of not engaging in good faith. Peace out man, you're clearly committed to being a negative asshole here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 12:04 AM |
| 1 | When all men take a week long holiday, the world will be like:However in my case I did follow the red pill and it improved my life quite a bit; I'm in good shape and I have money. What about learning + practicing game? And setting up a good online dating profile - get a couple pro photoshoots done making you look good and natural (it's good you're in shape; you can then dress well and pick the best few pics out of hundreds of pics taken)? And then you go on dates with girls and 🍆 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 12:01 AM |
| 2 | When all men take a week long holiday, the world will be like:because women feel the same about men who are sixes as they do men who are ones Wtf? No they don't. Stop speaking out of your ass. I know guys below 6 who get laid; I used to be a 6 myself and still got laid. Guys who are 1s don't get laid. Yes, it does. Or are those extra years of life all in their mind, too? Come on now. Oh wow, ten extra years of being in a nursing home. How privileged. Except, again, statistically, it *is* far worse to be an average man than an average woman. No, you brought… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 11:23 PM |
| 2 | When all men take a week long holiday, the world will be like:TRP only works when you are on the cusp of being attractive. For most men who are considered absolutely disgusting about women, all that it will do is make them think you're an asshole who works out too much. If you were this guy, how would you even know if you could go from "not attractive" to "really attractive" (which he did) before you've tried? And also no, I just disagree in general - the average guy will absolutely look much better if he built up his physique. And even if you're already a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 11:00 PM |
| 10 | Remember gentlemen: women don’t want your used up peenSure, I'm sure there are girls like that. But it's definitely a common occurrence for a guy to be seen as more attractive if he's got other girls into him, and a lot of girls are aroused by fuckboys for this reason, even if they're promiscuous | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Remember gentlemen: women don’t want your used up peenI’m speaking from a woman’s perspective Nah you're just limiting the definition of "value". I'm speaking in survival + reproduction terms (in an evolutionary context) which underlies the psychology of mating for both men and women. Or even if you want to use a more general definition of "value", being attractive is a form of value - or, like I mentioned, being "cool enough and non-creepy enough" to date/fuck is also a form of value. Have a good night You too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 10:50 PM |
| 2 | When all men take a week long holiday, the world will be like:I get it. It's scary to realize that most of your life is outside of your control. It's called maturity. Embracing that you never had a chance is good for men if for no other reason than you will stop wasting time chasing a dragon that you will never, ever catch. Or you could check go read and implement the TRP sidebar, and learn to try to win at the game of life - in a smart and effective way - instead of telling yourself you're doomed and giving up. I've talked to way too many incels online re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 10:42 PM |
| 2 | r/tinder user immediately ghosted after sharing his heightIdk about 80/20, but it's very clear to see that evopsych lies under a lot of modern dating, for both men and women. Most relevant to you + me would be that women evolved to be attracted to strong, charismatic, confident men. We can actively do things that significantly increase our attractiveness: lift weights (build muscle / lose fat - which can also make your face look better), improve our fashion, work on confidence, learn game (learn the right ways to flirt, make moves, behave in general), … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 10:22 PM |
| 2 | When all men take a week long holiday, the world will be like:Well truth to be told, i am married and my son is now 3 weeks old so you can hardly call me black pill right? Oh lol. Wrong assumption, my bad. Was your initial reply sarcastic then? You have it backwards buddy. It's not that these guys saw the black pill stuff on forums or their buddies introduced them to a secret underground black pill cult. Life came first, tgen the forums and shit. Yeah but the forums, videos, etc also suck more men in and it becomes a growing snowball, all the while cementi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 10:18 PM |
| 3 | Remember gentlemen: women don’t want your used up peenYes the person has some value even if that’s just sex Sex... and all the things that allow the fuckboy to be the kind of guy that a lot of girls want to fuck (thus making him a fuckboy). Things like being attractive, confident, smooth at flirting, non-creepy, charismatic, etc. I was responding with sex in mind No, even with casual sex in mind, being experienced with lots of girls can make a guy more attractive and make a girl want to fuck him more, and not because she consciously thinks "this gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 10:14 PM |
| 6 | To all men in this subredditI’m happily married, so I think I’ll stick around. I'm not worried about you, but I am worried about a lot of other men here... a loooot of men being sent the wrong way in life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 09:57 PM |
| 1 | r/tinder user immediately ghosted after sharing his heightHahaha in general the latter usually endorses the former, though. And yeah there are differing strategies in the red pill - end of the day it's just a community of men who want to do well with women and at life, and are aware of a lot of evolutionary psychology underneath the curtains of our lives and relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 09:55 PM |
| 4 | When all men take a week long holiday, the world will be like:I just hate the blackpill and what it's done to men. I can even see it in your words. There is truth to the blackpill - looks matter - but so many men have been led astray by the blackpill, thinking there's nothing they can do and they're doomed from the start by their genetics, when they haven't even tried. And the culture of nihilism and depression rampant in the BP community just sucks more and more men into that nihilism and depression. Like, to specifically reply to your comment now... no, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 09:54 PM |
| 2 | The most handsome man! 🧢Dude a few comments back you said "most guys" are untouchable. Not sure why you're bringing up "your face is ugly", the average guy has a reasonable face, and working out and building muscles can make him look bigger, stronger, more dominant, and hence very fuckable to a higher number of women. It's not childish mind games, it's meaningful change. Even lifting weights alone, this is the sorta shit it can do for your SMV, it can even change your face (ask me how I know... lifting weights brought … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 09:37 PM |
| 12 | Remember gentlemen: women don’t want your used up peenWomen don’t see experienced men as inherently ‘high value’ so that’s false. There’s no conspiracy, people just fuck who they’re attracted to. 😂 It's not a conspiracy, it's just that girls are attracted to guys who have value. That could even include "this guy is cool enough and non-creepy enough to fuck/date", which is actually a main piece of information conveyed by the fact that a guy has been with a lot of girls, but at the base of it, it comes down to "this guy is good enough to have slept w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 09:35 PM |
| 3 | r/tinder user immediately ghosted after sharing his heightWait hold. I never meant to imply cheating. Just that no amount of confidence or lack of thereof will make the 6'2 guy less attractive than a 5'7 man. Eh all other things equal sure, but there are a lot of 5'7 guys who are more attractive than 6'2 guys for other reasons (face, build, etc). But sure, all other things equal a 6'2 guy is more attractive than a 5'7 guy. But like I said, hot guys don't usually shoot that far below their league. My chad friends don't even find the girls I date attract… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 09:29 PM |
| 7 | When all men take a week long holiday, the world will be like:Lol, at first I interpreted this as "deer will finally feel comfortable going out into the streets without the fear of being raped" PPD has been flooded by such toxic posts from men during this purge, I'm a man myself and instinctively thinking low of men 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 09:12 PM |
| 1 | r/tinder user immediately ghosted after sharing his heightBruh your absolutism is insane. What makes you sooo confident that a girl will cheat on you as soon as a taller dude comes along? Like that's not at all how it works. Ofc some girls cheat but a lot of girls don't. If you're hot in her eyes (which having game contributes to) and build a strong connection with a chick, other guys shouldn't even be an issue. Let alone that it's not even likely that some random 6'2 chad who's way hotter than you is gonna be into your girl - in the SMP, us guys gener… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 09:01 PM |
| 3 | The most handsome man! 🧢How can an imperfect thing that needs to be improved do the improving? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 You're right. A skinny guy can't lift weights and build muscle. He's too imperfect to improve! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 08:31 PM |
| 15 | Remember gentlemen: women don’t want your used up peenIt's actually more that an experienced guy has been preselected as high value by other women. Less about ability to make a girl orgasm, not that that's not a good thing as well, it's just not as big of a factor in why girls like experienced guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 08:29 PM |
| 2 | r/tinder user immediately ghosted after sharing his heightAsk me how I came up with this shit. Girls shit test guys in general, you learn how to deal with it. Doesn't matter that I'm not this guy, I've had to deal with similar stuff before. It's solvable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 08:27 PM |
| 1 | r/tinder user immediately ghosted after sharing his heightIf I were him I'd treat it like a shit test and not respond directly. "Tall enough to pick you up over my shoulder" And then if she laughs and asks again I'd just be like "You'll have to find out in person" And then in person just be cool and confident and run date game | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 07:23 PM |
| 2 | The most handsome man! 🧢What exactly goes through your head to make you give up rather than think "hmmm, maybe TRP is right, maybe there are things I can do to make myself more attractive and improve my dating life"? I look at the picture OP posted and immediately see a bunch of things he's doing horribly that are entirely in his control, that I would do myself if I were in his shoes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 07:18 PM |
| 1 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsThe male version of the thread is the exact same. Most comments are just normal standards; if you search hard, like OP did here for the female thread, you can find some hypocritical or oddly picky standards like "I'm fat but she can't be fat" or "Must have big boobs". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 05:06 PM |
| 3 | good job guys you made me subconsciously hate womenDamn it'd be easy to pick up chicks in that crowd | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 02:01 PM |
| 1 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsIt's not the fairytale reality we were taught growing up about love, but it's not super crazy to me. Humans are all monkeys wired to reproduce, and love is messy. I had an amazing girlfriend once but broke up with her because I didn't feel the "fire" with her. If love was more ideal, id have stayed with her and had 2.5 kids and a healthy family. But it didn't feel right with her, there wasn't enough attraction. Regarding sharing feelings, yeah it's unfortunate to grow up thinking love is blind b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 01:30 PM |
| 2 | Is there an event (or multiple) that made you believe the blue/black/red/etc pill is true? If so what was it? Or if it was something else, what was it?Yeah I did, thanks, I was just grateful to get out of it, I was trapped in it for a while (even after I broke up with her) for complicated reasons. Meditation and mindfulness were also incredibly powerful for maintaining mental health during + afterwards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 01:15 PM |
| 1 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsFWIW there is a masculine way to show emotions that will not make your girl think you're a wimp. Key is to have core confidence and know you can get through anything. If you cry after losing your job while feeling like you're done in life and ready to give up, that's not an attractive look to a girl (girls are wired to want to be taken care of by a capable man who's good at handling life). But if you express emotion (anxiety, sadness, etc) while still having inner strength and knowing you'll get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 01:09 PM |
| 3 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsTo be clear I agree with you, but nearly everything on Reddit is cherry picked and I don’t get why you’re complaining about this. This post doesn’t attempt to hide the selection at all. OP here didn't even mention that he collected these comments from a post asking women what their high standards are. That's a huge piece of context, insidiously left out. Let alone that OP had to scroll to the lowest-voted comments to find these ones. That's why I'm complaining, OP is misleading people on purpose… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 01:05 PM |
| 2 | Is there an event (or multiple) that made you believe the blue/black/red/etc pill is true? If so what was it? Or if it was something else, what was it?Sorry to hear man, sounds rough. Thanks for sharing. Thinking relationships are all rainbows and then being with an abusive partner is quite a red pill in itself. The ex I mentioned definitely got pretty emotionally/psychologically abusive, thankfully not physically though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 12:38 PM |
| 2 | Is there an event (or multiple) that made you believe the blue/black/red/etc pill is true? If so what was it? Or if it was something else, what was it?Hahaha I like this answer, love that it matches your flair too. Yeah this makes sense, there definitely is some element of truth to all the pills | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 12:30 PM |
| 7 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsHonestly. These incels are retarded | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 12:27 PM |
| 1 | Is there an event (or multiple) that made you believe the blue/black/red/etc pill is true? If so what was it? Or if it was something else, what was it?And now that I'm older I'm finding it's impossible to attract women because I'm a bit less attractive...slight hair line recession, slightly older looking face, and slightly overweight. So that's why I believe in black pill. That's not black pill haha that's still red pill, those things are changeable. Skin care + bodybuilding especially. Could do TRT if you're financially stable enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 12:26 PM |
| 3 | That’s the secret for some of you, just be a bum who enjoys texting her😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 04:03 AM |
| 4 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsthe fact that women feel like this *some women feel like this. Specifically, this small, carefully selected subset of women from all the women who answered the original post. And most of these aren't even that bad. Like wow, OP found a few comments from abnormally entitled women, out of hundreds of comments, on a post that virtually asks women to reveal their most entitled standards. Crazy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 03:58 AM |
| 8 | Is there an event (or multiple) that made you believe the blue/black/red/etc pill is true? If so what was it? Or if it was something else, what was it?I think most red pill guys are the sensitive types inside. Even fds girls are actually soft deep inside. They became prickly cause of the hurt. 🥺 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 03:10 AM |
| 2 | Is there an event (or multiple) that made you believe the blue/black/red/etc pill is true? If so what was it? Or if it was something else, what was it?But I was referring to interactions with some sexual context. Ah gotcha, that makes more sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 02:29 AM |
| 7 | 𝗔𝗟𝗟 𝗛𝗔𝗜𝗟 𝗧𝗛𝗘 👑💎👑 𝓚𝓘𝓝𝓖 👑💎👑 𝗢𝗙 𝗥𝗘𝗗𝗣𝗜𝗟𝗟 🙌🙌🙌What a beautiful metrosexual kweeng. Takes a true alpha to be in touch with his feminine side | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 02:29 AM |
| 2 | Is there an event (or multiple) that made you believe the blue/black/red/etc pill is true? If so what was it? Or if it was something else, what was it?Read the sidebar for more info I have lol From the effects of dread,preselection, status, alpha traits, beta traits to branch swinging and the epiphany phase Most of these are in a sexual context though. That's why I'm surprised you say "every time I've seen a woman interact with a man", because there a lot of normal interactions between men and women (e.g. at the workplace) that wouldn't necessarily indicate some TRP truth. Other than I guess there's always some sort of invisible and dynamic st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 02:13 AM |
| 2 | Is there an event (or multiple) that made you believe the blue/black/red/etc pill is true? If so what was it? Or if it was something else, what was it?Every time? How so | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 01:21 AM |
| 0 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsDude I love you but I have no idea what you're trying to say | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 12:45 AM |
| 7 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsJesus you always have a way to spin it negative dontcha. Snap out of it, Debbie | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 12:43 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Most people on this forum are losers. If you’re successful, attractive, and achieving goals in your life, you don’t have time to argue with strangers on the internetYour emojis and the happiness I can feel through your comments fills me with warmth | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 11:07 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Most people on this forum are losers. If you’re successful, attractive, and achieving goals in your life, you don’t have time to argue with strangers on the internetI agree, every single one of you is a loser | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 11:02 PM |
| 4 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsWhat? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 10:49 PM |
| 4 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsDownvoting is against the rules in this sub, and it stands out as petty. Nice job changing the topic yourself and ignoring my 2nd point which directly responded to your comment. Go smoke some weed and chill out, you're getting way too worked up and acting like I'm some insider for FDS when all I did was call out someone's bullshit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 10:49 PM |
| 4 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsdespite one side pushes for acting like everything to be entitled to because "muh historical gender suffering" in history For the women who are entitled, that's not generally why they're entitled. It's generally because women evolved to want a provider/protector to take care of them, because historically (think about caveman times) they needed it in order to survive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 10:38 PM |
| 7 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsYou can stop downvoting me, it doesn't make your pain go away. I am not a fan of a lot of FDS, and yeah if I see an FDSer on this sub spouting bullshit, I'll call out the bullshit. I've had plenty of conversations where I call out women for irrational statements on this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 10:33 PM |
| 7 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsBecause I don't want to be on misandrist subs? I'm even regretting being on this sub these days, the conversations can get pretty toxic. But the premise of the sub is pretty wholesome... purple pill debate... you know... where you attempt to be rational and call out people who are being irrational... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 10:27 PM |
| 6 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsI'm not here to defend anyone, my only intention in these comments is to call out the dishonest shit OP is spewing. A lot of women are entitled, I admit that. It's just ridiculous for OP to act like most/all women are as entitled as the commenters he cherry-picked in this post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 10:21 PM |
| 5 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsWhat does FDS have to do with anything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 10:21 PM |
| 2 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsNo double standards here, I'll call out dishonest / inaccurate echo chambers when I see them. Hell I'm even grateful for TRP but I hate a lot of the guys who think they're "red pilled" when in reality they just go online and complain about women and clearly haven't worked on themselves. I call out those guys too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 10:19 PM |
| 0 | These chicks are wild AF nowNo wonder men only want to fuck and leave. Uhhhh you say that as if it's normal for a girl to have a body count of 80. It's not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 10:15 PM |
| 1 | The sub r/askmen drops the blackest pills. Men reveal how picky and shallow they are.Hmm, you might be right that it's just muscle size although I'm not fully convinced. I do agree their higher fat % is distributed and men don't have boobs, I just always thought it's also harder for them to get to that level of visible leanness | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 09:30 PM |
| 7 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsThis one’s whack. I was expecting some kind of self aware lesson at the end, but none I don't find it whack, she's just saying she was single for a long time because she couldn't find someone she had really good chemistry with, but now she's with a guy and there's "unreal" attraction between them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 09:18 PM |
| 1 | The sub r/askmen drops the blackest pills. Men reveal how picky and shallow they are.At most it's both, you're right women have smaller muscles, but I'm pretty sure it's also much harder (and less healthy) for them to get lean enough for a six pack | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 09:10 PM |
| 5 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsMmmm how bout the second top rated comment on the post OP got these comments from, but which he carefully ignored: To have the ability to share their emotions and their feelings without thinking it’s unmasculine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 09:06 PM |
| 7 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsI have no interest in fucking anyone here, I just call out dishonesty when I see it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 09:05 PM |
| 2 | The sub r/askmen drops the blackest pills. Men reveal how picky and shallow they are.Mmmm no it's fat. Everyone has abs, you just need to be low body fat to see them, and women are naturally higher in body fat percentage. "Abs are made in the kitchen" as they say | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 08:22 PM |
| 1 | The sub r/askmen drops the blackest pills. Men reveal how picky and shallow they are.Well end of the day, the truth is that each gender is massively diverse. There are guys with low standards and guys with high standards. Guys with wholesome standards and guys with shallow standards. The exact same holds for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 08:21 PM |
| 2 | The sub r/askmen drops the blackest pills. Men reveal how picky and shallow they are.To be fair, it is indeed way harder for women to have visible abs than men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 08:17 PM |
| 4 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsMy brain feels deepfried from talking to incels during purge week. The amount of angry heads in the sand... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 08:15 PM |
| 1 | The sub r/askmen drops the blackest pills. Men reveal how picky and shallow they are.That's the point, this post is just a parody of this guy's post. Easy to make a carefully selected compilation of hypocrisy and ignore all the normal comments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 08:03 PM |
| 2 | The sub r/askmen drops the blackest pills. Men reveal how picky and shallow they are.Not all of them were basic, and even the short ones say stuff like "she can't be fat even though I'm fat myself" or "she must be more attractive than me" or "she can't have been married before even though I'm in my 40s". It's easy to selectively show responses that make people look entitled / hypocritical, while ignoring the normal responses. Which is what the other OP did, and what I'm doing here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 08:01 PM |
| 1 | The sub r/askmen drops the blackest pills. Men reveal how picky and shallow they are.Shallow prick... guys are so picky, they demand girls who are into the exact same niche music as them. And you just know the hidden standard there is she also has to be skinny and have D-cups, as the other guys in this compilation admit. /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 07:57 PM |
| 1 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsI did, retard. No, most of the comments there are not asking for a classical pianist to serve them tea in bed everyday. Literally the top 5 comments on that post are entirely reasonable. Every single one of those top 5 comments. Hey, curious, if you really think they're so universal....... why ONLY compile the few negative comments from that post? Why not include all the normal comments? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 07:54 PM |
| 3 | The sub r/askmen drops the blackest pills. Men reveal how picky and shallow they are.Nothing's wrong with it, but it is shallow. This is just a parody of this retard's post where he selectively picked a few women's comments that make them look entitled and shallow, and pretended this proves women are all entitled and shallow. I made this post to show how easily you can do the same for men. The same post was made on /r/AskMen and I was able to compile comments from guys who: Say they can only date women who are more attractive than them Say they can only date women who are fit, e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 07:52 PM |
| 12 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsAgain, it's already a leading question, and most comments there are normal anyway. This compilation does not show that women are all entitled any more than a compilation of answers on /r/AskMen to "What's the worst crime you've committed" would show that men are all criminals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 07:42 PM |
| -1 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsBullshit man. Literally the top 5 comments are entirely reasonable, and this is on a post that's already designed to make women look bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 07:02 PM |
| 9 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsAnd I see wholesome comments from women all the time. The truth is that the world isn't black and white. There are asshole women and chill women out there; there are asshole guys and chill guys out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 07:01 PM |
| 0 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsYeah obviously she has other standards she's not mentioning, almost everyone has standards. The point is, this compilation is completely dishonest. It's like asking /r/AskMen about their crimes, then making a compilation of men describing crimes they've committed, and using it as evidence that men are all criminals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 06:58 PM |
| -1 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsI picked comments that women posted themselves. And ignored the many normal comments, pretending like these entitled comments are the average. You can do this with literally any group. Go to /r/AskChinesePeople and ask them "Hey, what's something you believe that others might think you're racist for", then only choose the bad-looking comments, and then make a compilation of 12 of their comments as a way to prove that Chinese people are racist. Or go to /r/AskMen and ask them "Hey, what's the wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 06:55 PM |
| 15 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsGo read the post and its comments. See how honestly OP selected comments there, written on an already leading question ("Hey ladies, tell me something that would make you look entitled"). This is not an honest compilation of women. This is comments carefully selected from a leading question, with all the normal responses ignored. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 06:51 PM |
| 3 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsGo check out the original post and see how universal they are. This is a dishonest hit piece of a compilation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 06:42 PM |
| -1 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsAlso you: selectively picks comments. Yeah. Selectively picked the top few comments from a post that by nature is already going to make women represent themselves in a bad light. You really think only picking the worst comments from a post asking "What are your abnormally high standards" is an honest way to show that women are entitled? Gtfo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 06:41 PM |
| 21 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsOr maybe a bunch of blackpillers right now are selectively compiling comments from a post asking women about their high standards, ignoring the many normal comments, and acting like all women are like this. There is no integrity in this post, you can rest assured OP is not giving you an unbiased look into "the compassionate gender". Check out the actual post and see if most comments there are like the ones OP carefully selected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 06:35 PM |
| -3 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsOP, you suck. You just got these comments from a post that asked women: What is a standard you have for men that some might consider high? And you ignored the top comments that wrote things like: To have the ability to share their emotions and their feelings without thinking it’s unmasculine. and That he keeps himself clean / hygienic, and healthy. You'd be amazed how many people warp that into something big and dramatic. Additionally that he can be independent, and also respect my independence.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 06:31 PM |
| 28 | The sub r/askwomen drops the blackest pillsIt is an incel echo chamber and guys like OP are compiling only the negative posts from women and acting like they're universal. Guess what the post title was: What is a standard you have for men that some might consider high? Like cmon lol, of course you'll be able to compile comments making women look entitled if you get the comments from a post ASKING them to give examples of standards that would make them look entitled. You're not even gonna have the non-entitled women commenting on the post… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 06:27 PM |
| 1 | I don't think fat Women who don't even like to workout should have any rights to demand a fit guy or get angry if guys don't approach them.Me: I'm a man, my friends are attractive men, and we all have standards for casual sex You: Men don't have standards for casual sex .... okay? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 06:07 PM |
| 1 | I don't think fat Women who don't even like to workout should have any rights to demand a fit guy or get angry if guys don't approach them.My original comment was replying to a dude who said "land whales", but no, my attractive friends are not fucking 5s either, even if said 5s have good bodies (aka butterfaces). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 05:17 PM |
| 2 | Why is incel stuff usually banned here? The arguments they make are correct, even though some people occasionally take things to extremesNah I'm talking about red pill channels on youtube that mostly consist of negativity and criticizing women, and even here on PPD I see so many men with red pill flairs who just complain about women in their comments. There are a couple guys here I've seen with red pill flairs who actually seem cool and successful, but most of them don't seem to have read/internalized the TRP sidebar | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 05:14 PM |
| 1 | I don't think fat Women who don't even like to workout should have any rights to demand a fit guy or get angry if guys don't approach them.Not an attractive guy. I have attractive friends, I know the types of girls they sleep with, and I personally have standards too, even for getting my dick wet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 04:55 PM |
| 1 | I don't think fat Women who don't even like to workout should have any rights to demand a fit guy or get angry if guys don't approach them.I speak from personal experience and also knowledge of my attractive friends' sex lives. They don't fuck whales, they fuck hot girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 04:53 PM |
| 2 | I don't think fat Women who don't even like to workout should have any rights to demand a fit guy or get angry if guys don't approach them.6’1” guys regularly fuck land whales This is not the norm, in general guys don't go that far below their SMV even for casual sex. Attractive guys have standards. Sure an 8-9 might fuck a 7, but he generally will not fuck a 5 or 3. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 03:36 PM |
| 1 | The 50th percentile man likes 50% of women. The 50th percentile woman likes...Same here, there's a big difference now that I have more muscle on me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 03:10 PM |
| 1 | The 50th percentile man likes 50% of women. The 50th percentile woman likes...Hahahahahahahahahahahahhaha sure man, I'm sure you're very experienced with girls and building muscle and know exactly what you're talking about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:16 PM |
| 1 | A lot of you SHOULD be forever aloneI'm not trying to give them what they're asking for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:13 PM |
| 1 | This is what white knights believeI hate cardio. I have to do it at night because, if I do it in the morning, I feel like shit for the rest of the day. Hmm interesting. FWIW it actually took me a while to enjoy cardio, I do actually remember it was torture when I first got into it, but after a few months of running everyday and getting fitter, it started being enjoyable as my body adapted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:09 PM |
| 1 | This is what white knights believeInteresting that you never see comics of fat chads the way you see comics of fat incels. Hmm.... it's almost as if incels know they should be going to the gym, but choose not to for some weird reason | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:08 PM |
| 1 | A lot of you SHOULD be forever aloneNo, and I never said I would, that's irrelevant to my comment. I was replying to the parts of the OP where he wrote: And it wouldn’t even be a tragedy. and Why should anyone shed a tear for the lonely PPD types? We can see incels' flaws and dislike their behavior/personalities while still empathizing with them and feeling bad that they are who they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:05 PM |
| 1 | The 50th percentile man likes 50% of women. The 50th percentile woman likes...Oh really? (ignore the timestamps, they're clearly wrong, this is just to illustrate that gaining muscle can make a man WAYYY more attractive) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:01 PM |
| 2 | Why is incel stuff usually banned here? The arguments they make are correct, even though some people occasionally take things to extremesIt's basically TRP but emphasizing not to be a pathetic, complaining victim, and instead actually use TRP to improve your life. White pill = optimistic + pragmatic TRP. Yes, women are attracted to higher value men. Don't sit around complaining about it, go to the gym and become successful and charismatic so that you can be a high value man. It shouldn't be necessary to have this label, but unfortunately it is, because SO many "red pill" guys online these days (including asshole "coaches" on yout… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 01:58 PM |
| 2 | Why is incel stuff usually banned here? The arguments they make are correct, even though some people occasionally take things to extremesPhysical characteristics are important and most of them are genetic and can't be changed. You will only know this if you are born with those physical characteristics. If you never had a problem with the opposite sex, you can't possibly know. Strongly disagree with this framing. Yes, a tiny minority of men out there genuinely have shit genetics and will always struggle with dating. But the average man can do SO much to look better (building muscle can even change how your face looks in a positive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 04:37 AM |
| 1 | This is what white knights believeYeah, I do cardio. Even with cardio. Hmm interesting, cardio makes me feel amazing I never said that I don't have charisma. I have natural charisma and charm. I also have a good-looking face (though not Chad-like good looks, just "cute"). Loool I never said you don't have charisma, in fact I assumed you do have charisma based on your PUA escapades. I'm just bringing up that a good physique, charisma, and yeah having a cute face too, are all similar in that they can provide you a "boost" in life … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 04:29 AM |
| 1 | This is what white knights believeI've had a work out regimen over the past year. I don't feel much different from when I didn't work out. I feel good either way. Even with cardio? Or do you not do cardio I had a 6 figure job prior to starting my own business. I never had problems with people respecting me (and that's despite being short). Sure, I mean end of the day looking better is a boost (the halo effect is real and replicated in studies) but yeah you don't need it for people to respect you. Same with charisma, it generally… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 04:10 AM |
| 1 | This is what white knights believeOh yeah? And what benefits are those? I was a skinny short guy for my 20s and didn't have any issues health-wise, career-wise, or relationship-wise (again when I was pandering to the pussy). People generally respect you more and treat you better the more attractive you look. If you were skinny that's actually not too bad though, it's much better than being fat. The health benefits are a long term thing, but even short term it can feel much better in daily life to be in shape. Related to this, ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 03:47 AM |
| 1 | This is what white knights believeCold approach and social circle are the best ways. Gotcha, well cold approach itself is its own skillset which you developed in your 20s, no? Social circle probably requires less skill but it still helps to know what kinda behavior is attractive to girls You also need to learn the local language and customs for the best opportunities for success. So it's more fun (at least for me). Ah gotcha, well it definitely sounds like an interesting life you have now. Curious what kinds of third world count… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 03:39 AM |
| 1 | This is what white knights believeStrategy for getting pussy in third world countries? Show up, be white, and don't die. Well, like, dating apps? Tinder? Cold approach? Social circle? How do you set up dates, what's the process like? Am I capable of it? Sure. But I refuse to engage in that kind of behavior with American women. Poor ROI and too much work. There are better options out there. I meant those skills still do help you today - e.g., you still go on dates and have relationships with girls, and knowing game helps with bot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 03:22 AM |
| 2 | A lot of you SHOULD be forever aloneBut then again these lonely guys should be bitching at the universe, not the women who turn them down. I agree with this part | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 03:13 AM |
| 1 | This is what white knights believeIn my 30s, I'm a FIRE guy and go to third world countries for pussy. No more will I engage in the pussy pandering of my 20s. Now, I just be me and let hypergamy do it's thing (with me being on the winning side of it finally). Can you elaborate on your pussy-getting strategy in these third world countries Tbh I can only imagine if you got good at PUA in your 20s, the skills you developed then still help you with girls today | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 03:12 AM |
| 1 | This is what white knights believeA girl can get laid while being fat too, that doesn't mean she wouldn't get higher quality guys if she worked out. It's not "giving into the male imperative" for a chick to work out, it's just being smart and improving her life. You're coming from an unnecessary mindset of some war between the sexes, like you can never do anything that a girl would like because then you're a pussy. Like you should never study for a job interview, cause that's giving into the employer imperative. Or... you know..… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 03:09 AM |
| 4 | A lot of you SHOULD be forever aloneHuh? All I'm saying is I feel bad for people who suffer because none of us chose to be who we are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 03:06 AM |
| 1 | This is what white knights believeIt's a lot easier than being a depressed incel, that sounds like a hard life. It's also actually pretty enjoyable to go on dates, learn to flirt and tease, learn to smoothly kiss a girl on a first date, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 03:03 AM |
| 1 | This is what white knights believeLOL getting laid is something I enjoy for myself. Not to mention the societal benefits from looking good, and the personal benefits from being healthy and in shape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 03:02 AM |
| 2 | A lot of you SHOULD be forever aloneFree will doesn't exist :) we are all products of environment + genetics, none of which we chose. You are only where you are because you happened to be born in your body, with your brain, raised by your parents, none of which you chose, and the universe unfolded (including all your "choices" that you feel you made, but really, you didn't choose to inhabit the brain that made those "choices", and even most of those choices were guided mainly by hormones and neurotransmitters sent unconsciously by… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 03:00 AM |
| 1 | This is what white knights believeI'm not saying PUA doesn't work, I learned a lot that helped me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:56 AM |
| 16 | A lot of you SHOULD be forever aloneI empathize with anyone who suffers. End of the day we're all humans plopped down on this Earth, none of us chose to be who we are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:44 AM |
| 1 | There's no such thing as a teenage incel, so stop acting like oneBoom, I was right \^ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:42 AM |
| 1 | This is what white knights believeThat's more of a PUA thing, not red pill, and a lot of modern day PUAs are finally speaking out against that lie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:33 AM |
| 3 | The 50th percentile man likes 50% of women. The 50th percentile woman likes...Uh no getting jacked can absolutely make you more attractive than guys taller than you. It's all a weighted average, why be so nihilistic about the parts of that weighted average that you can directly control | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:31 AM |
| 0 | There's no such thing as a teenage incel, so stop acting like oneYea he can maybe answer but I interpreted his "pop some cherries" in the "have exciting first time experiences as a teenager" way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:30 AM |
| 3 | There's no such thing as a teenage incel, so stop acting like oneImagine sneaking out at midnight to see your girlfriend or having to have sex in the woods or something, like those kind of exciting things you get to do as a teenager, as an adult sex is just common and it isn’t new or exciting anymore He elaborated with this^, I think he's just talking about innocent young love and exploring together | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:13 AM |
| – | Wherever you are, I love you.Love you too beautiful | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 02:09 AM |
| 1 | I present to you: the compassionate genderI'm sure all your facebook friends post about how much they hate short guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 01:34 AM |
| 1 | This is what white knights believeGoing to the gym is not a scam, use your fuckin head lol. Wanna get laid? Then do the things that make you more attractive to women. Or sure, stick your head in the sand and pretend there's nothing you can do, and ignore the community of guys who stuck their heads together for two decades to figure out the best ways to get laid. Yeah, that whole community achieved nothing. There's nothing you can do. Staying skinnyfat and nervously asking out Becky from work with flowers is totally your best bet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 01:30 AM |
| 5 | I present to you: the compassionate genderI'd rather not spend my time searching for a bunch of examples of people saying mean things online. Nor do I want to spend much more time trying to argue that a lot of men and women alike can be assholes, and that most women wouldn't post online saying short guys should kill themselves. I've had female friends / gfs who have treated me well, and ones who have treated me poorly. I've had male friends who have treated me well, and male friends who have treated me poorly. Some people can be asshole… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 01:23 AM |
| – | STOP POSTING PORN8===D ( . Y . ) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 01:14 AM |
| 2 | The 50th percentile man likes 50% of women. The 50th percentile woman likes...You ever try spending 5 hours at the gym? I ended up in a 20-girl orgy, it was awesome | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 01:12 AM |
| 3 | I present to you: the compassionate genderMy hero begs to disagree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 01:08 AM |
| 3 | This is what white knights believeBlackpillers take comics like this seriously and it's a real problem I've seen outside of purge week, they see an example of a nerdy fat dude who can't get laid, and they comment as if it's proof of the blackpill instead of thinking "holy shit that dude needs to get in the gym" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 01:07 AM |
| 3 | This is what white knights believeIt absolutely matters, being a beta pushover who doesn't know how to tease and flirt with a girl or make a move will dry a pussy up Stop parroting the same shit, I already replied to that BS. Yes game is real, there's a good and bad way to flirt with a chick. It's just so sad, you clearly don't get laid but you clearly haven't given it a proper shot yet, but you act like there's nothing you can do. Read the damn TRP sidebar already, the blackpill being in your ass is not helping your life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 01:05 AM |
| 9 | I present to you: the compassionate genderBet you can find just as many examples of guys posting horrifying things, you act like all girls think like the girls in this post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 01:00 AM |
| 3 | This is what white knights believeDoesn't matter, blackpillers will look at this comic as if it proves some point, when all it proves is that those blackpillers aren't doing the hugely important things in their control like going to the gym / learning game / dressing well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 12:44 AM |
| 2 | The 50th percentile man likes 50% of women. The 50th percentile woman likes...No, but compound lifts make you stronger and more attractive as a man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 12:41 AM |
| 3 | The 50th percentile man likes 50% of women. The 50th percentile woman likes...Better work at becoming hot then, get your ass off PPD and into the squat rack | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 12:33 AM |
| 1 | This is what white knights believeDude who gives a shit about good genetics. Most guys on this planet weren't born with amazing genetics, but most guys on this planet can go to the gym, get in good shape, get a masculine / attractive haircut, dress cooler, learn how to flirt with chicks (on dating apps and in person), and get laid. If you're incel and you don't work on those things, you're just choosing to be a victim instead of solving your problem pragmatically. Notice that the beta in the comic is out of shape and has shit fa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/21 12:30 AM |
| – | Fuck, Marry, KillMyself, cimorene86, you for making me choose someone to kill | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 11:51 PM |
| 2 | This is what white knights believeThat'd take him even further from reading and implementing the totally-free TRP sidebar | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 11:46 PM |
| 4 | This is what white knights believeIt absolutely matters, being a beta pushover who doesn't know how to tease and flirt with a girl or make a move will dry a pussy up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 11:45 PM |
| – | Field Report: 11/17/20 – I Will Not Stop Until I Get A Solid NumberGood shit dude, cold approach is tough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 11:42 PM |
| -2 | This is what white knights believeAgain, unsurprising that the beta dude is out of shape, wears terrible glasses (he could have better looking glasses or wear contacts) and a nerdy haircut, and has zero game. Whatever incel / MGTOW / etc dude made this comic has no excuse for this shit, if you're blackpilled you must know about TRP too, but you just choose to be a victim with shit fashion and an out of shape body instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 11:02 PM |
| – | Is this accurate?Is my aim accurate when I chuck the black pill into the toilet because it's such a disappointing mess of guys wasting their lives away instead of lifting weights, improving their social skills, and doing whatever they can to win at the game of life? Notice how none of these guys is in shape or is even moderately good at flirting (aka game). Other than the first guy who clearly got another date, ended up in a deep relationship that broke his heart, and then cried while jacking off and mourning th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 10:29 PM |
| – | Can we limit the male sexlessness posts to 1 post per year?Is a post like this reportable? It's a pretty blackpill esque post about male sexlessness / relationshiplessness | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 09:44 PM |
| – | "Men bad, women bad" megathreadIdk, there's a reason we're renaming "history" to "herstory"... I think we all know deep down women are better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadHmmm such a small sub though. Why not allow polls on the main sub here? /u/Mrs_Drgree / /u/wtknight any input - has this been considered before? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 08:15 PM |
| – | Mrs. Degree is Queen B GET OVER IT!Hmmmmm maybe /u/Mrs_Drgree was the very first sex bot enthusiast on this sub | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 07:57 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadStrange. I tried checking with old.reddit.com and it just says "No Incel Content", but if I'm on normal reddit.com it shows "No Incel/Black-Pill Content" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 07:15 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadRule 11 is "No Incel/Black-Pill Content", are we looking at different PPD sidebars? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 06:58 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI feel like a lot of posts slip by rule 11 now (no blackpill content) by not being explicitly about the blackpill, but between the lines coming from that victim mindset and talking about sexless / relationshipless men. Like the "women are happier because they can get relationships more than men can, and relationships make you happy" post yesterday. As a sidenote I was also thinking recently it'd be interesting to be able to post polls in this sub, to check out the beliefs in this community | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Relationships are the greatest predictor of happiness and women are much more likely to be in relationshipsJust for anyone reading, he's misunderstanding the numbers / the table. As far as I can tell, the table doesn't directly compare the effect of marriage vs the effect of friendship. For the "effect of friendship" it only even measures the difference between having fewer than 10 friends, vs having 10-20 friends. Nothing more specific than that, nothing to do with whether you have friends at all, nothing to do with the closeness of the friendships, etc. Just 10-20 friends vs 0-10 friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Relationships are the greatest predictor of happiness and women are much more likely to be in relationshipsLmaooooo no. You are very wrong, go back and read my other comment, then read the relevant part of the study that analyzes the table, and go see what the numbers really mean. Not once do they mention "71% confident they're happy", you're not even understanding that they measured happiness on a 1-10 scale ("life ladder"). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 11:15 PM |
| 1 | Relationships are the greatest predictor of happiness and women are much more likely to be in relationshipsLOL bro did you read any of my comment? The .75 doesn't even mean "75% confident", it means an increase of .75 points out of 10 happiness points. Like 6.75/10 happy vs 6/10 happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Relationships are the greatest predictor of happiness and women are much more likely to be in relationshipsReplied more comprehensively to your other comment linking this table. But TLDR, you're misinterpreting these numbers. The .71 doesn't mean 71%, it means .71 increase in happiness (out of 10 points) compared to having fewer than 10 friends (and it's in column 1, too, meaning we're not controlling for marital status or all the other variables controlled for in column 3). The .75 doesn't mean 75%, it means .75 (out of 10 points) increase in happiness compared to if you're divorced/widowed/separate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Relationships are the greatest predictor of happiness and women are much more likely to be in relationshipsI'm actually not convinced that's what the table is saying. Although it's a hard table to understand (I'm not fully sure I understand it myself) - if anyone is more experienced with statistics, control variables, etc than me, feel free to step in / correct me. The numbers in the columns represent a regression fit, where the dependent variable (the thing being "fit") is a happiness "life ladder" from 1-10, and the numbers in the columns represent how much the "life ladder" is increased per unit i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 09:46 PM |
| 1 | To women who have had multiple shorter-term relationships and are now in long-term committed relationships, who did you give your "best sex" to?100%, but thats IF you are ''TRP aware'' most guys out here are simps/desperate for sex, and modern day women exploit that fact till no tommorrow. Right..... and that's cringe. Lol Also I will note again it's not just the case of women exploiting men, a lot of more wholesome relationships happen where the woman still just doesn't like fucking her husband as much as he likes fucking her, so she ends up "giving" sex to him like a favor. Again I agree this stuff happens, it's just sad to read peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 09:25 PM |
| 2 | Relationships are the greatest predictor of happiness and women are much more likely to be in relationshipsI've proven that romantic relationships are at least equal in importance to friendships if not more. You definitely have not, lol, only that they provide similar benefits (e.g., socialization). None of the studies you provided even tried to compare the magnitude of their effects. Your last study only showed there was overlap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 07:59 PM |
| 3 | Relationships are the greatest predictor of happiness and women are much more likely to be in relationshipsYou were clearly talking about romantic relationships in your post lol, extending that claim to general relationships in life is a much different claim and deserves its own separate post if that's your claim | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 07:30 PM |
| 1 | To women who have had multiple shorter-term relationships and are now in long-term committed relationships, who did you give your "best sex" to?Yeah well, thats just the way it is But again it doesn't have to be. A huge chunk of TRP is about learning how to turn a girl on and be good in bed. If you're physically attractive enough for her to have sex with you in the first place, you should be able to learn how to be an arousing guy who she loves having sex with for its own sake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 07:08 PM |
| 3 | Relationships are the greatest predictor of happiness and women are much more likely to be in relationshipsNo I'm saying the benefits are more pronounced. Based on what?? The study you quoted said "friends and spouses provide some similar happiness benefits", not "spouses have a bigger impact on happiness than friendships". When someone is living with a partner, they become the main source of social interaction. When I lived with my best friend, he also became my main source of social interaction. Maybe there's something about living with someone you're close with that makes you spend a lot of time w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 06:59 PM |
| 3 | Relationships are the greatest predictor of happiness and women are much more likely to be in relationshipsI'm not arguing that friendships aren't helpful You are essentially saying that friendships don't make people healthier, though, when you say that "marriage shows benefits that friendships do not", based on a survey that simply showed married men were healthier than unmarried men. we find that real-life friends are much more important for people who are single, divorced, separated or widowed than they are for people who are married or living with a partner. This makes total sense though. If some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 06:09 PM |
| 6 | Relationships are the greatest predictor of happiness and women are much more likely to be in relationshipsI appreciate your efforts in providing quotes / external sources but you gotta be more professional and unbiased in your use of them. I'm still not certain you actually looked through the Harvard article you linked. And as for this quote, I'm not sure where you got it from; it's important to look at the original study to see what the researchers themselves say they concluded, see whether (and how) they isolated variables, etc. In this case, you're making the claim that marriage shows benefits th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 05:05 PM |
| 4 | "Don’t ask a fish how to catch fish, ask the fisherman" is horrible advice and I’ll explain whySome of the things that have helped me the most with having successful dates, women would have never told me to do. Like confidently escalating (when the time is right of course), teasing, etc. The average girl's date advice would be "be polite and friendly and be yourself". Nice username btw. Everyone needs to watch that documentary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 03:52 PM |
| 6 | Relationships are the greatest predictor of happiness and women are much more likely to be in relationshipsAbsolutely. And even during a romantic relationship it's so key to have a supportive group of friends. Friends have gotten me through some horrible times with exes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 03:39 PM |
| 34 | Relationships are the greatest predictor of happiness and women are much more likely to be in relationshipsDid you actually read the Harvard article you linked? When it says "relationships" it means "close relationships in life", not specifically "romantic relationships". And when it does talk about marital satisfaction, it compares happy marriages to unhappy marriages, and doesn't mention the lack of a marriage. In my experience a man who is single is happier than a man who's in an unhappy relationship. And unhappy relationships are REALLY common. And as for relationships in general, yes, they matte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 02:26 PM |
| 1 | To women who have had multiple shorter-term relationships and are now in long-term committed relationships, who did you give your "best sex" to?It's cringe because it doesn't have to be that way, and shouldn't be that way. Sex can and should be something both people enjoy a lot. Yeah, it happens that some women do "give" sex to their guys, whether as leverage or as a favor... and that's cringe | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 07:27 PM |
| 1 | To women who have had multiple shorter-term relationships and are now in long-term committed relationships, who did you give your "best sex" to?Why they say like that, is it because everyone waiting to sleep with her. No it's likely because they're with guys they don't actually find primally arousing. Just learn to be the guy who she's primally aroused by and you won't have that issue with a girl you date / sleep with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 01:19 PM |
| 4 | To women who have had multiple shorter-term relationships and are now in long-term committed relationships, who did you give your "best sex" to?It's not even red pill nonsense, so many bluepillers believe it too. It's an extremely common bluepill trope just like "my wife won't fuck me", "my wife made me sleep on the couch", "my wife only blows me on special occasions", etc FFS even one of my exes tried to pull it on me during a fight, saying "I guess we don't have to have sex anymore". I called her bluff and laughed and said "sure" and she pretty quickly realized "wait... I like having sex with him... a lot... I probably shouldn't have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 01:12 PM |
| 3 | To what extent can a man become more attractive by working out?His face doesn’t appear a little wider? Could be an illusion but it’s a good one. It does. It's a thing, gaining more muscle can change your face as well, even without roids. Probably a combo of muscle and fat. And yeah in this case he's way more attractive, good example (although definitely either roids, or not 4 months, or both) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 04:01 AM |
| 14 | To women who have had multiple shorter-term relationships and are now in long-term committed relationships, who did you give your "best sex" to?This is such a weird take men have *some men - and also tbh on PPD I've seen an equal amount of women describe it the same, like sex is a favor to the guy. Makes me cringe a lil hearing anyone say it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 03:03 AM |
| 1 | Of course women don’t like men for simply being nice.Don't you usually just change the flair to CMV in that case | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/21 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Why do people have so much venom for men who have given up?yes dudes who cant get a date are technically involuntarily celibate, but we don't use the term ''incel'' for these types of dude. Guys who can't get a date and then give up are definitely incel in my books. PPD is for debating interesting things related to TRP (hence the name "purple" pill debate - it's between red and blue), like whether game works / hypergamy exists / etc. This post wasn't about something related to TRP like "if a guy can't get a date, what's his best course of action - how s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/21 09:19 PM |
| 2 | Why do people have so much venom for men who have given up?Ah gotcha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/21 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Why do people have so much venom for men who have given up?Definitely. I don't think many people would have any issue with the type of guy you're describing. It's the archetypal MGTOW / incel dude online who calls women hypergamous sluts that people have an issue with. Side note, why is driving really nice cars your life passion? Not to put down your life passion but I feel like there are cheaper ways to get better adrenaline rushes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/21 02:18 PM |
| 2 | Why do people have so much venom for men who have given up?I have no venom towards a guy who's given up but I find it incredibly sad and a wasted opportunity, especially when the guy in question is someone who complains and rants online about how much it sucks to not get laid, but the guy in question has clearly also never set foot in a gym. If you and your friends are chill and zen and just want to live your lives without women, cool. Although I still think you can drive nice cars in your free time while also giving dating your best shot (get in shape,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/21 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Do Attractive People go to Jail Less?Yup, one of the main studies this guy referenced (this study) isolated the factors (attractiveness, race, sex). Socioeconomic status and IQ weren't part of it, the participants just judged things based on pictures. This experiment examined several factors thought to be influential in jurors' decisions. Specifically, the attractiveness, race, and sex of the defendant were manipulated. It was hypothesized that for the same crime attractive defendants would be given lesser sentences than unattracti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/21 08:47 PM |
| 3 | Is not being fat the best dating strategy for men?Yes, if you're obese, then losing weight will definitely be your best option. After that you still have to meet girls but you'll have many factors more options than when you were obese. Check out Greg Doucette's youtube channel - especially his videos from last year and earlier - for quality weight loss advice. There's a right and a wrong way to lose weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/21 12:50 AM |
| 14 | TRP has some specks of truth to it but has largely become a money making cult for sociopathic dating/red pill coachesJust depends on how you define TRP. I like to still think of TRP as a vague clusterfuck of ideas described in the reddit TRP sidebar (some of which are conflicting ideas) which are generally reasonable and seem to be true (e.g. muscles + confidence + good in bed + game = more success with women). But yeah, the YouTube red pill "coaches" generally suck ass and send guys the wrong way. A couple of them are on point, but often those ones don't even call themselves red pilled even though they pretty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/21 08:25 PM |
| 2 | I’m starting to believe FDS is right, men really do have an inherit disdain for womenWhat exactly do you see in real life though? It's so easy to go in looking for something, and find evidence that might not actually be good evidence. Like if you go into the office thinking "men just tolerate women", and then you look around and see a lot of stone-faced conversations between men and women, you might think "see, these men are just tolerating these women, there's no liking here". But maybe those conversations are just boring, maybe those men have female best friends, and maybe you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/21 06:23 PM |
| 6 | Her libido genuinely being lower than yours isn’t because “she fucked a Chad before” — “Chad” is having the same mismatched libido frustration with his LTRThe girls who weren’t as good looking as me and couldn’t get me to commit would fuck me 24/7 whenever I wanted, and I found myself not wanting to fuck them much at all over time, while they still begged for it. Yeah I've experienced this too. It's an interesting phenomenon and for me was a huge eye opener to the effect of "hypergamy" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/21 06:19 PM |
| 10 | Her libido genuinely being lower than yours isn’t because “she fucked a Chad before” — “Chad” is having the same mismatched libido frustration with his LTRI get that the average poster here is barely 20, but you all talk as if there isn’t a world of people out there who are in LTRs and married and — guess what — they have sex. 🤯 And they give zero fucks about pill colors and Internet bro theories. Just cause they don't care about the pills or the sexual psychology theories doesn't mean there isn't sexual psychology at play behind the scenes in the marriage. People definitely marry and have semi regular sex. Usually they have similar SMVs and thing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/21 06:16 PM |
| 2 | I’m starting to believe FDS is right, men really do have an inherit disdain for womenWhy, because FDS says so lol? I'm telling you I like most women. I have no trouble making friends with girls / women I meet through friends, the workplace, etc. and keep in touch with platonic female friends even when I'm out of town. A lot of people in the world - men and women - just like people in general. It's weird that you suddenly think all men just don't like women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/21 06:05 PM |
| 2 | I’m starting to believe FDS is right, men really do have an inherit disdain for womenBut I still see so much hate from men and their desire to restrain women for their own pleasure. I think men look at women as lower than them subconsciously You're making a post on a sub like this, triggering a bunch of incels and bitter dudes. How do you think this is a good sample size lol? I don't have disdain for women, I love women - even my exes who did some messed up things, and I agree everyone struggles pretty similarly in life, man or woman. I'm also a dude (and I even happen to agree … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/21 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Why do women (and men) "prefer abusive partners"And why is OP a sub? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/21 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Most people have real friendships. Worse case scenario, women will typically have fake friends and men will typically have no friends.If you don't hate the relationship, why would you feel unloved? Is love not the reason you're in the relationship? If someone feels unloved, why bother continue the relationship? There's such a thing called temporary emotion. You can feel unloved/disrespected during an argument, then resolve it with your partner and feel loved/respected again later. More context, please. What are they yelling about? Do they know when to not yell? Are they causing situations when they're yelling. Context isn't ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/21 03:11 PM |
| 1 | Most people have real friendships. Worse case scenario, women will typically have fake friends and men will typically have no friends.Exactly. I would need far more context than just "husband won't clean the dishes". No you wouldn't, you're just unnecessarily extrapolating "I feel unloved when he does ___" to "I hate the entire relationship and there's no love ever". Just cause you don't like when someone yells at you, doesn't mean the ONLY thing you care about in a relationship is whether or not they yell at you. Just cause it feels really bad when your partner doesn't find you attractive, doesn't mean that's the ONLY thing y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/21 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Most people have real friendships. Worse case scenario, women will typically have fake friends and men will typically have no friends.So the only thing that matters in a relationship is the sex? Definitely not. That's like you saying, "When my husband doesn't clean up his dishes, I feel uncared for," and me saying, "So the only thing that matters in a relationship is whether someone does the dishes or not? You don't have a husband. You have a dishwasher." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/21 10:51 PM |
| 0 | Most people have real friendships. Worse case scenario, women will typically have fake friends and men will typically have no friends.Also, I see alot less women who conflate sex with love and affection. I wonder if you're just biased because you're getting your "data" from PPDers online, where men are the more likely sex to have experienced a dead bedroom (and I wonder if you've experienced that before?). I'm pretty sure most girls would feel unloved if their boyfriend/husband didn't like having sex with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/21 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Most people have real friendships. Worse case scenario, women will typically have fake friends and men will typically have no friends.A man buying a $15,000 Rolex? Classy, refined, gentlemanly, intelligent. Lol my whole circle of friends would be weirded out and concerned if any of us made a purchase like this. I literally can't think of a single friend of mine who'd do this (or admire someone who did this). Not that I'm disagreeing with the original point that women aren't more shallow than men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/21 02:43 PM |
| 2 | Is the Red Pill ideology misunderstood these days or is it truly the toxic ideology people claim it to be?Though now such guys are the unofficial “spokesmen” for TRP movement while being the worst possible examples and not recalling following the ideology anyway. That’s the perfect way to ruin a community or movement. The funny thing is though, the TRP sidebar is still pretty decent, save for a few pieces. The Book of Pook is a gem and has not a single ounce of bitterness or negativity. But yeah, it's sad, the visible RP community (youtubers *cough* fresh n fit *cough* donovan sharpe *cough*, angry … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/21 05:39 AM |
| 10 | Women of Reddit, why would you cheat?Means he only paid for most of the shit she wanted, not everything You literally posted this 4 hours after she already replied explaining she paid all his rent for fear of him attacking her. Wtf dude | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/21 05:30 AM |
| 1 | Would women be okay sleeping with guys if they had the prior knowledge that guys (other than husbands,fiancees) won't (wouldn't want to) protect them in violent or dangerous situations?I hate to think I'm so simple XD End of the day we're just fleshy robots :P. Our brains are just collections of neural networks that react deterministically to inputs. Mindfulness helps with observing those default reactions from a distance tho, and changing them over time if you want to. (In this case my unsolicited advice would be it might be worth changing them - sounds like you sometimes get angry when there might not even be gender norms behind things - e.g. the homeless dude might've asked… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/21 02:17 PM |
| 5 | The world needs more voluntary celibate role modelsYes, and that's what contributes to the self image. I'm sure it's not that 100% of people treat them like they're ugly, but it's enough people that it forms an "I'm ugly" self image which is what's really detrimental to the guy's mental health. But: I'll also add I've seen far too many examples of "incels" online who aren't actually ugly, they've just been bought into this blackpill thing. They mistake the very-normal experience of an average guy for whom pussy doesn't just fall into his lap (it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/21 02:06 PM |
| 5 | The world needs more voluntary celibate role modelsOnly issue is I think a lot of incels suffer so greatly not cause of the lack of sex, but cause of the poor self image. Feeling ugly and undesirable is worse than just not getting laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/21 04:35 AM |
| 2 | Would women be okay sleeping with guys if they had the prior knowledge that guys (other than husbands,fiancees) won't (wouldn't want to) protect them in violent or dangerous situations?Lmao gotcha. A rebellion against gender norms | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/21 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Would women be okay sleeping with guys if they had the prior knowledge that guys (other than husbands,fiancees) won't (wouldn't want to) protect them in violent or dangerous situations?I am viscerally repulsed by men who want to protect me Interesting, why do you think that is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/21 11:09 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "Introversion" isn't what's unattractive to women. It's the traits commonly associated with those who are introverted.(BTW "masculine" and "feminine" to me is best defined as "traits the one sex tends to find most attractive in the opposite sex.") This is the only part I disagree with, everything else in your post is on point. I think a definition that makes more sense is tying masculine/feminine into sexual dimorphism (i.e. trying them to traits more specific to one gender than the other), and too far in either direction could be unattractive. I'd consider a really hairy dude masculine, even if that amount of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/21 09:00 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: I think we need to address the elephant in the room - Why are introverted men largely unattractive to women?Confidence, social status / power (more social connections, more "known" in a social group), etc It's not about the introversion/extroversion, it's about the associated traits like power / strength / confidence. Girls can still swoon over Edward from Twilight because he's powerful even though he's introverted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/21 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Post from Dating Over Thirty I'd like to discuss " Is it always true that if a guy says he's not ready for a relationship that the "with you" is silent?""I love you romantically" is the same as "I'm not into you"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/21 06:04 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadA guy like Russell who found so much validation in being good with women would definitely have worked to get better at sex too. I can also just see it in the way he flirts with women and picks them up and carries them across the room. I'd put a lot of money on him being great in bed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/21 02:12 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat Megathread🥺 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/21 01:55 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYea but I have no interest in hitting nerves lol, I came to this sub to have interesting and rational conversations | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/21 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadA man can get better in bed, but its all dependent on his woman. Nobodys gonna teach him what his partner wants but her. Nah that's not the only way to get better in bed. I'd bet money Russell Brand is better than both you and me at sex simply from all the practice he got from hookups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/21 12:39 AM |
| 6 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadStarting to dislike commenting on this sub lol, I'm getting downvoted for essentially saying a guy can get better in bed. So much of the conversation that happens here isn't debate in good faith, it's just a war between every group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/21 12:13 AM |
| 1 | Pros and Cons of Marrying a Red Pill Man or “Red Pill Man”I never said otherwise lol, I've been in relationships, I understand sex gets better the more you get to know the other person's body and explore together. A guy can also get good at eating pussy and fucking a girl till she multi-orgasms, whether he's dating around or in a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 11:24 PM |
| 4 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI don't mind sex with a condom, still feels great. Maybe it's the type of condom I use. When I started rawdogging I didn't even like it more, it was just different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 08:16 PM |
| 0 | Why do women prefer kinky sex outside of their LTR?Not a woman so I'm commenting here. But lol. The reason is AF/BB (I could go deeper into a more nuanced answer but this is the oversimplified answer). I'm surprised you're asking it on PPD and sounding shocked Edit - just to clarify it's not an LTR vs casual distinction in itself, it's alpha traits like dominance/confidence that trigger a certain type of attraction that a boyfriend without those traits wouldn't by default trigger, and those alpha traits are gonna be more common in non-boyfriend … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 07:14 PM |
| -1 | Pros and Cons of Marrying a Red Pill Man or “Red Pill Man”pornography is a good way to learn how to satisfy a woman Haven't heard this one being said, but yea I agree most porn isn't a great example to learn from that you should focus on your own pleasure rather than your partners This can actually be good advice, a lot of girls like being submissive and "used" (literally, multiple girls have told me "use me" as they're under me), it can be fun for both parties assuming the guy isn't just a 1-pump chump that you shouldn't perform cunnilingus Yeah this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Pros and Cons of Marrying a Red Pill Man or “Red Pill Man”At its core, TRP is a space for men to discuss the differences / interactions between the sexes and sexual strategy. Some of these ideas include that women are aroused by different things than men (e.g. muscles, confidence, assertiveness, social status, etc) and this stuff can be useful for the average guy to work on in a healthy way. Unfortunately the space is also filled with a bunch of guys who take "women like high value men" as a reason to sit on their asses, not go to the gym, and type on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 02:45 PM |
| 0 | Pros and Cons of Marrying a Red Pill Man or “Red Pill Man”Personal experience says otherwise, but feel free to give examples Edit - Lol at the people downvoting my comments (which isn't even allowed on this sub, see rule 10). Like this one. Such an incorrect and offensive comment I wrote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Pros and Cons of Marrying a Red Pill Man or “Red Pill Man”Sex God Method changed my life :) as long as you're actually having sex and practicing the ideas in the book, that shit works. Even my roommate had a lot of fun with his gf practicing the things I told him about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Pros and Cons of Marrying a Red Pill Man or “Red Pill Man”I'd take a non RP guy over a successful RP guy any day tbh. I don't think that the traits you've listed compensate for the mindset that is common among red pillers. Agree to disagree I guess, except not really, cause again you're going back to talking about "the mindset that is common among red pillers" when I'm explicitly not talking about average dudes. The type of RP guy I'm thinking of doesn't have that mindset you're referring to, which I agree is common in TRP, but doesn't apply to every R… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Pros and Cons of Marrying a Red Pill Man or “Red Pill Man”Well, I haven't seen many successful RP men Have you seen some, just not many? Anyway if we're talking about averages then I agree with you, I'd recommend dating the average non-RP guy over the average RP guy. That's why I wrote more than just the bullet points in my first comment, I'm just listing out possible traits a successful RP man might likely have developed due to TRP. I'm explicitly not talking about average dudes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 05:09 AM |
| 0 | Pros and Cons of Marrying a Red Pill Man or “Red Pill Man”I mean yea maybe "selection bias" isn't the precise term to use but I hope you can try to understand the points I was going for in that comment. Keep in mind my original comment specified "successful RP man" not "general RP man", I agree that the RP community is filled with unsuccessful guys without the traits I listed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 04:55 AM |
| -2 | Pros and Cons of Marrying a Red Pill Man or “Red Pill Man”Eh maybe but that'd be some selection bias, guys who end up going to TRP are more likely to have not been good with girls in the first place. But done right TRP should make a guy better in all those traits, I basically listed off the traits TRP recommends developing in order to become better with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 04:40 AM |
| -2 | Pros and Cons of Marrying a Red Pill Man or “Red Pill Man”Experience / practice + reading books on how to be better in bed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 04:10 AM |
| 3 | Pros and Cons of Marrying a Red Pill Man or “Red Pill Man”Pros of dating a successful RP man good in bed good body has options, so if he married you it was hopefully for the right reasons rather than settling knows how to be flirty and masculine stoic, has boundaries and self respect That being said there are a lot of guys online who call themselves RP but just spend their time complaining about women and don't have the above traits; there are also more successful RP guys who are still probably not good long term partners. Some of the RP guys I respect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 03:54 AM |
| 2 | “Red Pill Men”, Red Pill Men, and women aging. Are Red Pill and “Red Pill” Men obsessed with women aging?It's also written by someone who's not RP lol and a mischaracterization of why RP usually talks about the wall as a useful topic for men to be aware of. I'm sure some RP guys look at "the wall" in that sadistic way but I'm also sure a lot of feminists look at "incels" sadistically too, there are unempathetic people in all groups. Anyway my take on your post is that it can be useful to be aware of "the wall" because for a lot of guys, they struggle with dating when they're younger but eventually … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 03:15 AM |
| 1 | Post from Dating Over Thirty I'd like to discuss " Is it always true that if a guy says he's not ready for a relationship that the "with you" is silent?"Haha yea it's so cool to ignore everything OP wrote and remember that she's a girl so she made it all up. You're right bro, thanks for the reminder, rock on 🤟 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/21 01:35 AM |
| 0 | Post from Dating Over Thirty I'd like to discuss " Is it always true that if a guy says he's not ready for a relationship that the "with you" is silent?"From the post: He (29M) says he still wants me in his life though, and that he loves me both platonically and romantically He has been in a few long relationships (just got out of one) that didn't work out and feels that he needs time on his own rather than repeating the pattern of jumping into a new relationship right after the other ends, and to really learn who he is without another person. He is definitely not saying "I'm not into you" lol, he's coming up with excuses that at this point in h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/21 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Post from Dating Over Thirty I'd like to discuss " Is it always true that if a guy says he's not ready for a relationship that the "with you" is silent?"he's not into her That's not what he's saying. That's what she's worried is the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/21 01:02 AM |
| 9 | Post from Dating Over Thirty I'd like to discuss " Is it always true that if a guy says he's not ready for a relationship that the "with you" is silent?"This is different, people (including guys) lie to others all the time to avoid hurting them. This isn't a case of "she doesn't like how it sounds" even, it's the opposite, she's worried the truth is he doesn't like her enough for a relationship. Which is entirely plausible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Your advice on breaking the cycle of rejection?Remember your successes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Wondering if this has ever been posted here. Curious for discussionhow it comes off as almost threatening That's a stretch. He's a total supplicating beta who desperately wanted her back while forgiving her for horrible things. He's not gonna harm her, he's the sort of guy to apologize for hurting her hand with his face after she slaps him. Is he? Is he the "good guy"? As opposed to being the villain in this relationship? Yeah I'd say he's a little less in the wrong than the girl who dated two guys at once for months. To make this stuff a bit more related to th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 06:13 AM |
| 1 | RP men, what do you want?it’s common on the flip side with women and coercive and manipulative men. They’re one in the same, regardless of gender, it’s an emotional immaturity and preference to manipulation over authentic relating. Absolutely, there are a lot of shitty male partners out there too I'm sure. I have less experience seeing those, I've seen a lot more of the reverse, but I don't doubt at all that there are a lot of them out there. I do think they're different in nature though. With the betaization thing it a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 04:28 AM |
| 1 | RP men, what do you want?Nah it's a pretty specific set of things, not just general life skills that guys already know about. I cared about mental and physical health before TRP. Lifting weights is a specific type of exercise that makes you way more sexually attractive (for the average guy) than just cardio even though cardio is arguably actually healthier than lifting weights. Flirting skills don't come easy and it can really help to learn directly from experienced guys, and actively practice them. A lot of guys don't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 04:17 AM |
| 1 | RP men, what do you want?Well more so, if they know what women are attracted to (a lot of solid info in the TRP sidebar for example), that's all that matters, they can work on it. Lift weights, be grounded and have boundaries, improve your flirting skills (aka have game), etc. No need for women to say they're attracted to all those things, either way if you work on them you get the benefits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 04:02 AM |
| 9 | RP men, what do you want?I'm just confused on what the dream would be for you all. Lol the red pill is a massive community (if it's even a community). Gonna be a lot of different answers. Personally I think a more ideal world would be one where each person has a match they have great chemistry and compatibility with and they enjoy a great lifelong, loving, respectful partnership that enhances each other's lives. Kinda like how love is portrayed in movies you watched growing up. In reality, dating is messy. You might mee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 03:54 AM |
| 3 | RP men, what do you want?? Why do you even care if women know/say they're attracted to certain things | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 03:29 AM |
| 4 | True red pillers call out BS in both genders: There I said itTrue redpillers look at the world as it really is, yes, which includes understanding that neither men nor women are perfect angels who just love each others' souls and nothing else. As for holding the average person accountable, I have no idea what that means. When it comes to sexuality and dating people generally just do what they want and there's not much "we" can do (or should do) to control that. If people want to cheat on their partners or date multiple people, that's their choice. If peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/21 07:11 PM |
| 1 | What makes a man desireable?I can see what you mean here. Yes, it means he's the "gatekeeper" of sex in our relationship...you could say that's an imbalance. However, I understand the reasons for him not being in the mood as often and accept it. I do still have my own power to find an additional FWB, of course. To be honest, it just sounds like way too much work. It's easier to not delve back into the wretched hullabaloo that it sounds like modern dating is. Yeah if you're happy you're happy (which it sounds like you are),… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/21 06:23 PM |
| 1 | What makes a man desireable?I'm not you so I obviously can't speak too much about your experience, you could be right that him being less invested than you didn't make you like him any more. Either way it sounds like the pain from being ignored outweighed any effect that might've had on your attraction and that you liked him enough anyway in the first place. I would never be with someone I thought was "higher" than me, no matter if it's real status or "invisible" status. I'm just not into power imbalances. I do remember yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/21 06:13 PM |
| 3 | What makes a man desireable?But I'm turned off by men who are higher status than me. I enjoy being the provider in my relationships and can't do that if he makes significantly more or has more power. It doesn't just mean status in society e.g. money or power, though. It can also just mean a more ethereal "social status" like in the invisible status hierarchy (like how everyone in school knows who the "popular" kids are). When someone likes you less than you like them, it can make you feel like they're above you in that hie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/21 04:08 PM |
| 3 | What makes a man desireable?I do wonder if one's childhood has a lot to do with this type of observation. Is it that, thankfully, most women don't come from abusive backgrounds and are so used to being safe, calm, cared for, unharmed, etc that the opposite (bad boy who ignores them, treats them as a second thought, and doesn't immediately show he cares) is sought out by them? Maybe because it's new, unexpected, different, a little exciting... And then for those of us who had fathers who were uncaring/unsafe to be around al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/21 03:24 PM |
| 4 | How did these whole redpill/bluepill ideas even start?I'm pretty sure the red pill came before Rollo, in the days of seduction forums like alt.seduction.fast. Where the Book of Pook came from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/21 12:22 AM |
| – | Q4M: Are you okay with your female SO regularly watching porn?I can see that perspective but I think a lot of people view it less seriously. It bothered me a bit for sure when I thought she was visualizing when she watched porn, but nothing close to how I'd feel if she actually cheated on me. She didn't seem to mind at all meanwhile that I visualized. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/21 12:20 AM |
| – | Blue Pill, Red Pill…why not both?Right back at you, I've had solid convos w you before | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/21 09:29 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pill, Red Pill…why not both?Yeah there's space for nuance there (IMO at least) but it seems to generally be a thing - women are attracted to high value men, and even IME they're attracted to signs that a guy is "above" them in the social hierarchy (hence why certain pickup tactics like teasing a girl can work well). Here's those two guys' take on hypergamy though and I also agree with them, essentially both men and women will (within reason) want to get the best catch they can get. But what we find attractive differs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/21 07:44 PM |
| 5 | Women don’t like men that look YOUNGER than themYou're right, he should just sit at home on his computer complaining on the internet about girls not liking him, instead of doing things to be more attractive. Good thinking batman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/21 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill, Red Pill…why not both?It's basically the optimistic and wholesome version of red pill. Muscles, game, social skills, fashion, etc help a lot and they're worth it for a guy to work on. Hypergamy exists (women are attracted to high value men) but the conclusion isn't "women suck", it's "cool, let's become higher value and enjoy life + relationships with women". It doesn't contradict red pill (it's more of a subset of red pill), but the label helps to distinguish from the masses of bitter self-victimizing redpillers out… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/21 07:02 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pill, Red Pill…why not both?It's basically the optimistic and wholesome version of red pill. Muscles, game, social skills, fashion, etc help a lot and they're worth it for a guy to work on. Hypergamy exists (women are attracted to high value men) but the conclusion isn't "women suck", it's "cool, let's become higher value and enjoy life + relationships with women". It doesn't contradict red pill (it's more of a subset of red pill), but the label helps to distinguish from the masses of bitter self-victimizing redpillers out… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/21 07:02 PM |
| 38 | Women don’t like men that look YOUNGER than themThis. Honestly, what's the point of being on purple pill debate as a guy who's not bluepill, if you don't even follow the top advice of TRP which is to lift? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/21 03:07 PM |
| 4 | Blue Pill, Red Pill…why not both?-twins much more common Ah yes, classic bluepillers and their twins | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/21 02:51 AM |
| 3 | How come it’s unacceptable to complement a woman’s tits?Really? Casually saying something like "Hey, I like your hair" as a genuine compliment, you would find rude? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 10:10 PM |
| 1 | The "Sex is/is not a need" discussionGoogling "lack of sex mental health" Shows literally too many sources to link. Well I actually just did that and the second link I clicked brought me to this n = 17,744 person study that found: The purported detrimental impact of sexlessness on self-reported happiness levels was not evident in this large, nationally representative study after adjusting for sociodemographic factors. Sexless Americans reported very similar happiness levels as their sexually active counterparts. So the study you li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 09:49 PM |
| 2 | The "Sex is/is not a need" discussionI said not that relevant. I know T is correlated with sex drive. Is your claim, then, that only for higher T males, going without sex will fuck up your mental health? And what exactly does "fuck up" mean? Depression? Suicide? Surely if it's this standard in psychology to view "lack of sex" as a horrible source of mental health issues, there'd be more information out there on it, and perhaps it'd be standard practice to prescribe escort services as a cure for depressed men who don't get laid? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 08:56 PM |
| 1 | What do yall think about the new Demi Lovato post?If you aren’t very careful there have been cases where obsessive fans/sugar daddies have physically hurt these women. Pretty small risk IMO, I'd guess they're more likely to die from a car accident than get stalked/hurt by a fan Anyway though it sounds like you agree we shouldn't shame them, which was Demi's main point. "If you watch porn, don't judge the people who make it" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 05:50 PM |
| 2 | What do yall think about the new Demi Lovato post?they are hurting themselves and putting themselves at risk By making porn or having an onlyfans? I'm sure some girls would be better off not doing those things (or wouldn't want to in the first place) but I'm sure some girls have no issue doing them and it's net positive for their lives to rake in some easy $. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 05:35 PM |
| 2 | The "Sex is/is not a need" discussionYup he's probably low T but I don't think it's that relevant, he still likes sex and would have a lot more sex if he could. And I suspect a lot of incels out there who argue that sex is a need are low T too. Hmm any source on that one? I tried googling it and the closest article I found on the topic was this, a psychiatrist (and president of the 17th World Congress of Sexology) saying therapists should ask about sex lives... but not because lack of sex leads to mental issues, but rather that iss… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 05:32 PM |
| 2 | The "Sex is/is not a need" discussionFor most of my childhood I'm pretty sure he only had sex a few times a year max (if even - he told me years ago he hadn't had sex with my mom in over a year), at this point it's probably been a few years since he's had sex and he's in his 50s. They sleep in separate bedrooms lol. Anyway, beyond all these examples. You really think that not having sex will inherently fuck up your mental health? I think we both agree humans generally have a strong drive to have sex, but I don't think the inability… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 03:57 PM |
| 1 | The "Sex is/is not a need" discussionthat's why they also have a saying cope or rope you either accept that your life is going downhill and try resist it or you kill yourself which is means that it affects their physical health and also their mental health Not all incels say this, some say this. And again I think the real issue is the plummeted self esteem from how people treat them in life, and from viewing themselves as undesirable and ugly, rather than the lack of sex itself. Oh absolutely my dad would prefer to have sex, but he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 03:44 PM |
| 1 | The "Sex is/is not a need" discussiona better life without so much stress without vascular problems with a better immune system with a less risk of heart attack,decrease the risk of prostate cancer, for better sleep Sex may have benefits like these but they're not extreme. Incels aren't dropping dead from vascular problems. Ashwaghanda (a supplement) can also decrease stress and decrease risk for certain diseases but that doesn't make it a need. Again my own dad hasn't had sex in years and he's actually very healthy, mentally and p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 03:02 PM |
| 1 | The "Sex is/is not a need" discussionAgain, "need" is always contextual. Needed for what? Africans clearly don't need more than a meal a day to survive, but given that eating too little can directly cause health issues, we could say that a certain amount of food is needed to be physically healthy. Sex is not the same, the lack of sex in itself doesn't directly cause mental health issues. There are mentally sound incels out there (they used to be called virgins actually lol way back in the day). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 02:34 PM |
| 1 | The "Sex is/is not a need" discussionFair enough but it was just an example. My dad was another example and you haven't mentioned him. Loads of people everywhere go without sex without being crazy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 02:28 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Are you okay with your female SO regularly watching porn?You do realize those were straight women answering the first post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 02:27 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: Are you okay with your female SO regularly watching porn?Lol ok? Point is, a lot of straight girls out there watch porn differently than you do. First post I linked is more relevant to this convo anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 05:41 AM |
| 5 | Q4M: Are you okay with your female SO regularly watching porn?https://www.reddit.com/r/TooAfraidToAsk/comments/cofupt/do_women_who_watch_straight_porn_imagine/ Do women who watch straight porn imagine themselves in the girl's place similar to how guys will often imagine themselves as the guy doing the fucking? "Both it depends." (25 upvotes, top answer) "I'm watching the guy, no imagining." (8 upvotes, 2nd top answer) "I don’t imagine shit. I just enjoy the view." (6 upvotes, 3rd top answer) And then an interesting post of thousands of straight women who a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 05:18 AM |
| 5 | Q4M: Are you okay with your female SO regularly watching porn?For you maybe. Still not sure why you're speaking for every girl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 04:55 AM |
| 5 | What do yall think about the new Demi Lovato post?I think that people tend to conflate being promiscuous and "slutty" with being sexual. One can have a very positive outlook on sex and not be with a different person every week. Sure... or you can also have a positive outlook on sex and be with a different person every week. Do what you want Also, I think that shame needs to be reintroduced into our society. Not necessarily in the same puritan way as before, but too many people are living life as dregs and not contributing. They are hiding under… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 04:52 AM |
| 9 | What do yall think about the new Demi Lovato post?If you personally do not want that behavior in a partner, I'd say it's within your rights to shame them. Or just don't date them. I personally don't want to date an onlyfans girl but I feel no need or desire to shame onlyfans girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 04:34 AM |
| 13 | What do yall think about the new Demi Lovato post?The last sentence is, "Just a reminder that being sexual is okay." I don't think she's saying to go out and make porn, I think she's saying it's okay if you do. No issue with her message. I agree with her that people can do what they want to do as long as they're not hurting others, and we don't need to shame/judge them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 04:11 AM |
| 2 | The "Sex is/is not a need" discussion"Need" is always contextual. Food is needed... in order to survive. Breathing is needed... in order to survive. Having a living body is also needed... in order to survive. This is true regardless of whether a monk rotted alive or not. Sex is not needed to survive, nor is it needed to have non-fucked-up mental health. Some men clearly do have fucked up mental health as a result of being incel, although I suspect that has more to do with self-image and self-esteem than it has to do with the actual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 02:53 AM |
| 5 | The "Sex is/is not a need" discussionI know his mental health isn't "fucked up" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 02:13 AM |
| 4 | The "Sex is/is not a need" discussionIrrelevant, the fact that they (and my dad - don't ignore my sweet beta dad, who does contribute greatly to society) exist and can be happy without sex proves that sex is not a "need" or that the lack of sex will "fuck up your mental health". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 01:50 AM |
| 4 | The "Sex is/is not a need" discussionI personally know someone who reached awakening and lives totally happily with no romantic/sexual relationships (without being isolated from the opposite sex) and no intention to seek one because he feels totally complete already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 01:33 AM |
| 9 | The "Sex is/is not a need" discussionMonks who can live happily without sex would beg to differ. Hell even my dad hasn't fucked my mom in years and he's not depressed or anything because of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 12:35 AM |
| 6 | Q4M: Are you okay with your female SO regularly watching porn?I'm sure you do. You don't speak for every girl though. Some girls have very specific tastes and they're not gonna search through hundreds of vids till they find a guy they're attracted to, maybe they're happy just getting turned on from the sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/21 09:52 PM |
| 6 | Q4M: Are you okay with your female SO regularly watching porn?Not every girl is the same, pretty sure studies showed women even get turned on from watching animals fuck so it's not unbelievable that some girls would watch porn just for that arousal aspect, without needing to fantasize about that specific guy fucking her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/21 08:34 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: Are you okay with your female SO regularly watching porn?Nah she was fine watching our vids, they turned us both on :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/21 05:44 PM |
| 9 | Q4M: Are you okay with your female SO regularly watching porn?Funnily enough I talked about this a little with my ex. I didn't get super insecure or anything but I definitely would've preferred if she just got herself off to an image of me or to our sex tape. Interestingly, at some point she pointed out a key difference between us - when she watches porn, it just turns her on, but she doesn't imagine being fucked by the guy in the porno. When I watch porn, I do imagine fucking the girls in the porno. Also both of us only watched porn if we were out of town… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/21 02:38 PM |
| 0 | How did the genders get to this point?TRP is supposed to be about owning + improving your life, not fighting with women. Unfortunately the world (even outside FDS and TRP) is full of people who haven't yet learned how to own their lives and be successful + positive, and that bleeds into a community like TRP as well which is why you see all the fighting. But they're really just average people (aka negative internet trolls) who happen to agree with TRP that evolution plays a huge role in modern dating and that women are attracted to h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/21 01:09 AM |
| 1 | how to actually find a good partner?Np man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 08:49 PM |
| 2 | how to actually find a good partner?sadly i am brain dead when it comes to socializing A decent tip I found useful when going to college was to be polarizing: like, be radically yourself. Some people will be turned off, but the people who like you will really like you, and there will be more of those than if you were more boring; having the mindset of being polarizing also helps a lot with being more confident and charismatic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 08:20 PM |
| 2 | Would you a prefer a guy for whom sexual success comes naturally, or someone who worked very hard to achieve it?Sure thing Mrs "I don't need to watch the example of a non creepy way to pick up a girl, I just know it's creepy because it's on video" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 07:57 PM |
| 1 | "When a woman talks to a man, she is thinking of his future (his earning potential, etc.), and when a man talks to a woman, he is thinking of her past (how old is she? her weight? her history?)." - The Book of Pook. How applicable is this statement some 20 years after Pook wrote it?I didn't say you were disagreeing with my point, but I am disagreeing with your point that being a virgin makes a girl more likely to want to "try sex with someone else" just because she realized she likes sex. At the same time I could be convinced of your point to some extent. I did date a virgin who didn't realize how good of a partner I was because she had no point of reference with other relationships. So maybe you're right in some sense, it's not like she would've gone out and slept with so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 07:42 PM |
| 2 | Would you a prefer a guy for whom sexual success comes naturally, or someone who worked very hard to achieve it?The very first video I see is him saying men should never take dating advice from a woman. Misogyny detected. I don't think you know what misogyny means lol The fact that his pickup artistry would ever involve secret filming is unethical. We were talking about pickup tactics earlier in the conversation. What does a coach filming his approach have to do with his pickup tactics themselves? You're saying pickup is inherently manipulative, but if a student of that guy did the same type of approach w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 07:37 PM |
| 2 | Would you a prefer a guy for whom sexual success comes naturally, or someone who worked very hard to achieve it?This guy literally doesn't even film infield, or even include girls he dates/sleeps with in his videos, because he finds that unethical even if it'd help his channel grow. He also constantly calls out the bitterness and misogyny in the community. Happy? Also the fact that the previous dude I linked filmed it is a small point unrelated to pickup itself. He's a coach, he films it for education purposes, but the vast following of dudes who learn from him don't film themselves. I like how we were on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 06:25 PM |
| 0 | "When a woman talks to a man, she is thinking of his future (his earning potential, etc.), and when a man talks to a woman, he is thinking of her past (how old is she? her weight? her history?)." - The Book of Pook. How applicable is this statement some 20 years after Pook wrote it?Who's to say once she enjoys it she won't want to go out and try it with someone else? Two options if this is the case: She doesn't like you enough to not risk losing you over dating/fucking other people She'd cheat to not lose you, which means she doesn't have good values Either way, having an N count of 3+ will not solve either of these two issues, and having an N count of 3- does not cause either of these two issues. If a girl likes you enough and has values, even if she's a virgin, there's n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 06:21 PM |
| 15 | "When a woman talks to a man, she is thinking of his future (his earning potential, etc.), and when a man talks to a woman, he is thinking of her past (how old is she? her weight? her history?)." - The Book of Pook. How applicable is this statement some 20 years after Pook wrote it?if you want a woman who enjoys sex its likely shes got a past I disagree with this. I've been with a lot of low N count chicks - including virgins (5, to be specific) - and the reasons they were low N / virgins were not that they didn't like sex, it was things like pickiness, not meeting the right guy they wanted to sleep with yet, culture, anxiety, etc. But all of them could enjoy sex a lot once we started sleeping together and they got more used to sex. It takes certain beliefs and attitudes a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Would you a prefer a guy for whom sexual success comes naturally, or someone who worked very hard to achieve it?just assume they like you already Yesssss, this is huge | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 02:10 PM |
| 2 | Would you a prefer a guy for whom sexual success comes naturally, or someone who worked very hard to achieve it?Lol you clearly don't know much about pickup if you don't realize there are different styles of it. What's manipulative about this approach? "Hey my dog thought you were very cute, he wanted to say hi" oooooohhhhh soooooo creeeepy right? Such manipulation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 02:08 PM |
| 2 | how to actually find a good partner?EDIT: pls say whether youre mgt0w, fem-inist, in-cel, f.d.s or whatever in your comments I'm white pilled - which is like red pilled but it's specifically the optimistic type of red pilled where you take control of your life and live positively. It's a fact that things like building muscle / getting fit, improving confidence and social skills, etc make you more attractive, and it's very worth it to do them. Overall, RP things are often true, but you should really look at it all as a tool box tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 05:23 AM |
| 2 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadI mean, I've tried to be an accommodating partner, but ... "You want me to do what?" followed by hysterical laughter is probably not really the response the guys were looking for. Hahahahhaha fair enough. My ex and I talked about her wearing a sexy cat costume and we both agreed we'd end up laughing our asses off, but I still think we could've continued through the laughter | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 01:46 AM |
| 1 | How do red/black pillers explain this relationships?I'm curious OP, how do you explain it? Even from a bluepill lens most people would be confused or surprised by this relationship. Would you ever be attracted to someone as deformed as this guy? Clearly something very odd is going on here. Normally humans are sexually and romantically attracted to people equally, or more, physically attractive than them. Women evolved to be sexually attracted to physically fit men. Chances are if this woman mated with this guy in ancestral times (if they can even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 01:42 AM |
| 5 | How do red/black pillers explain this relationships?maybe she's asexual This is a really interesting explanation and definitely a possibility | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 01:37 AM |
| 3 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadLaughter during sex is always fun | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 01:19 AM |
| 6 | Would you a prefer a guy for whom sexual success comes naturally, or someone who worked very hard to achieve it?The reason is that there's a big stigma behind it, not that it's inherently bad or creepy. Makeup is "manipulative", honestly even basic social skills on a first date are "manipulative" because nobody on a first date is being their full authentic self without filter, because they want a certain outcome (the other person to like them). People are always playing some sort of social role instead of just being totally unfiltered. Pickup isn't much different, it's just got more of a social stigma. Es… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/21 01:10 AM |
| 3 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadAh ok cool I don’t see it as an issue, I don’t even want to make love anymore. Just wanna be left alone really lol :( damn | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 11:24 PM |
| 2 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadGotcha. Well if you ever feel like sharing the love my DMs are always open for a private pickup manifesto ;) Also why is your flair blue? You seem redpilled | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadYea I'm sure some girls wouldn't be down. Some would though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 10:54 PM |
| 2 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadI am absolutely not sharing shit on anything with anybody lol. everything I know I had to work hard for and earn myself. Lol alrighty then. You learned everything on your own, nothing from others? I kinda get it tho. I sometimes don't want to help guys on the internet because I feel like a lot of them don't deserve it, and it's nice to know stuff that most guys don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadProbably about a month ago, picked up a girl and we had sex in the back of her car. I'm going to assume she came because she said she did and she squirted but I've had girls squirt before without actually coming so it's not a definite tell. Ah nice, you'll have to share some of your pickup tips with this sub sometime I'm talking about girls on here who say that they can never come from piv sex and absolutely need a vibrator or they literally can't have an orgasm at all. Eh I just assume they've … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 10:17 PM |
| 2 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadI don’t know cuz I don’t ask, but it seems awfully prevalent in media, including porn Interesting, I haven't seen it at all in mainstream media before. And I don't watch a lot of porn but when I do, I don't see it there either Although mid 20s humans, of both genders, still seem very self conscious to me. Oh no, what will people think? Lol yup it's all a spectrum. We care way less than highschoolers care, but probably still give way more fucks than people in their 30s / 40s / etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 10:13 PM |
| 3 | Sex Toys Mega-Threadall I really wanted was to make love Yep I used to be the same way, it took a while of pushing my comfort zone until I was able to enjoy (and be good at) more dominant sex rather than gentle lovemaking. And it totally changed how much girls enjoyed the sex. Would highly recommend the book Sex God Method if you haven't read it yet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadYup, I'm mid 20s Do you find most older women have used Hitachis before? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 10:03 PM |
| 4 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadCurious, when was the last time you made a girl cum from PIV? IME being able to make a girl cum from PIV was a "me" thing not a "her" thing, I just had to get better over time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 10:01 PM |
| 3 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadI’ve always been vanilla regarding sex Assuming you're a straight dude and you wanna be good in bed, I'd recommend trying to expand your comfort zone (in specific ways). Most chicks get off way more to non-vanilla sex and it's something you can learn to really enjoy too. (I'm not necessarily talking about sex toys here though) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadNice! Yeah I heard amazing things about the magic wand from guys who sleep with a lot more chicks than me (including a guy who's literally a sex coach) so I figured I'd give it a shot | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 09:56 PM |
| 0 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadDaym. Yea I got a knock off of the Hitachi and mine has multiple speeds, we'll see how it goes if/when I finally use it with a girl lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 09:52 PM |
| 2 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadGrown ass adults can do what they want, and a lot of chicks have not used a vibrator (or the Hitachi) before | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 09:48 PM |
| 3 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadI got a hitachi to use with girls I sleep with, because I'd heard it's a game changer. But I have yet to use it because I've been too embarrassed to whip it out, lmao. Maybe at some point I'll get over it though and be able to own the fact that I have it. Are women's vibrators more like men's pocket fleshlight or porn? I suspect there's more male insecurity thinking about vibrators, than there is female insecurity thinking about fleshlights. It's a lot easier to be bad at sex as a guy (it took m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadSex bots, idk that’s weird to me and men here seem to claim they prefer them over real women. Lmao, the only guys to use sex bots probably can't get girls in the first place. Tbh I've never seen a guy here say sex bots are better than women, I've only heard incels talking about using them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 09:09 PM |
| 2 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadLol at first I read that as, he does blow (coke) while using his hand for self-butt-play | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Sex Toys Mega-ThreadHave you looks maxxed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 09:06 PM |
| 1 | What is it about happy couples on social media that trigger some in the manosphere?I'm focusing on the highschool pic since that's when she supposedly "friendzoned" this dude. Nothing's "wrong" with her per se but I wouldn't look at her and think "damn she's attractive and out of that guy's league", they're both pretty average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?It's called an example, used to illustrate a point (in this case, that just because there's an initial no, doesn't mean consensual things can't still happen that lead to sex). We got onto this point because a different user gave thejim66 as an example of a rapist in this thread, which I disagreed with. I originally asked you for examples because you said there are a lot of rapists in these comments who don't think they're rapists. You still haven't given an example yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 02:47 AM |
| 2 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Oh I missed that one, just read it now. Yeah damn that's pretty messed up. This article I just found is similar and also disturbing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?You showed me an example of someone who says he'd be a rapist under current laws, which he says are horrible because they cause false accusations. That's why I think he might not be actually saying he coerced women into sex, not because he finds it hilarious, but because half his thread was about how current consent laws are bad and lead to false accusations. All his comments would make sense if all he did was get drunk at parties and hook up, and he thinks that current laws would brand him as a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?"Either way, the statute of limitations have long since passed. :D" Could easily be a tongue in cheek comment. You keep mentioning him (very possibly jokingly) calling himself a rapist, while ignoring all his comments about current laws, false accusations, etc. I wouldn't make any judgments on his actual actions unless he actually described what he did, not just said that current laws (that he says cause false accusations) could have gotten him arrested. Let's remember that the original comment … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 02:00 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Like, after the fact, or during the fact? If it was after the fact, how did they not realize during it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 01:48 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Yes I read the rest of the comment thread. He bragged about raping women in the context of current laws that he disagrees with, and implies that he got away with it under previous laws. That alone says it might not actually be something like coercive sex that he's talking about. I replied to him asking him for specifics. We'll see if he replies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 01:47 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?You've seen a guy rape a girl (not a case like stealthing, but a case where the rape is because she's actually not consenting to the sex at all in the moment and not enjoying it), without realizing it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Or they will describe sex that sounds like rape like “she just lays there”. LOL that's actually the type of sex I often prefer, but it's still very clear that she's enjoying it, and would be very clear if she wasn't. Men say they can’t tell all the time. Idk, I've never heard a guy say he can't tell if a girl is consenting during sex or not. Sounds pretty extreme. Or tell a “funny story” that is rape like switch w a buddy in a dark room. Again this isn't related to what we've been talking about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 01:23 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Jesus christ the judgment here. you have zero self-control First, that time she stripped for me, it actually didn't work. I didn't get turned on, we didn't have sex. But she also wasn't doing something horrible by stripping, it's not a big deal. Not to mention that even if I did get turned on, that wouldn't be a lack of self-control... getting turned on by your girlfriend when she strips is a very normal thing. Pretty messed up for you to call it "zero self-control". Second, no, I'm not talking … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Maybe you’re right and all rapists know they are rapists and just choose to rape anyway. Yup I can't imagine it otherwise. If you're having sex with someone against their consent, it should be pretty obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Do you not remember the original comment you replied to? Do you not remember that I pointed out she and I were envisioning completely different things - that she was picturing actions that would constitute pressuring, while I was picturing different actions that would fall under "seduction"? Do you also not remember my original comment, where I described the sorts of things I was picturing: I've had girlfriends and sexual partners before who seduced me into sex when I wasn't initially in the moo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?You literally just equated applying pressure to sex to applying seduction. Lol no, I did the opposite, I literally said "seduce, not pressure" i.e. saying they're different things Men who practice seduction are typically doing the former. I'm sure some men do. I'm not speaking on behalf, or about, those men. Why is it so difficult to understand that playful seduction is a thing lol. I can not feel like having sex, and my girlfriend can start dancing in front of me to try to turn me on, and I can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Cajoled, persisted, pressured, whatever way you want to dress it up to sound less rapey. Uh no, what I'm describing could not be accurately labeled with "pressured". When I said no to my ex gf, and then she took off her shirt and panties to try to turn me on, guess what... it wasn't her "pressuring" me. It was her playfully seducing me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:54 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Stealthing has absolutely nothing to do with what I or thejim66 described. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Right, then his attempt to seduce wouldn't work and there would be no sex. Also consent should be involved in the "seduce" process, otherwise it's still assault. Again I think we're all picturing very different things here lol. I'm picturing something that is enjoyable for everyone and never crosses the consent boundary. I've been seduced and I've seduced, it's literally all just fun and games for both parties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Let's just say that I'm glad they didn't exist when I was out fucking around in the US. I could have ended up getting arrested (and I say that braggingly). How so? What things did you do and what current laws would that break? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?This isn't an example of a man describing rape though, he sounds like someone who just hates the laws because they lead to false accusations, in his words. For all we know, he's saying that his past experiences involved getting drunk at parties and hooking up with girls and that today that could get him charged for rape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:30 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?I haven't heard a single woman say that actually, and I know multiple women who have been raped (and the ways it happened). Rape isn't normally the sort of thing you can just "do" without realizing you're doing it. It's pretty easy to see when you're putting your penis in and out of a person who's not enjoying it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Because nuance - to be blunt, I can tell through the sum of his comments that he's not an autistic rapist who would have sex with a girl while she's clearly not into it (aka rape). He's looking to see if she is into it, in which case he continues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?pressure *seduce, not pressure. You and I are envisioning very different things. I agree with you, pressuring into sex is very bad to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 11:46 PM |
| 2 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Right, but that's not what /u/thejim66 described, to just keep asking until she gives up and then have sex with her while she's not into it. In fact, his comment specifically said "If she insisted or showed she wasn't into it after saying no I would of course back off." And it's pretty easy to see whether a girl you're doing stuff with is into it or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 11:02 PM |
| 2 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?If you guess, how mad can you be that you raped someone and have to deal w the consequences? Well, what you're missing here is that there are middle-steps you can take that aren't sex, to try and turn the other person on (if they're okay with you taking these middle steps - otherwise it's easy to not take them), where the whole thing is consensual and not rape, and everyone's okay with it. Could be as small as saying "you sure?" with a smirk and then slowly kissing her neck (and stopping if you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?then you weren't raped. Yes lmao that is my entire point. An initial "no", followed by things that lead to sex, isn't always rape. Back to your original comment in this thread after I asked for examples of rapists in the comment section: from u/jim66 or whatever: " If she insisted or showed she wasn't into it after saying no I would of course back off." He says she said no. And he doesn't consider that enough. What jim66 describes is consistent with what I described my past sexual partners doing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?It's not a mindset though, it's an actual fact that everything they did, they did with my consent. I wasn't not-okay with her blowing me, even though I wasn't down for full sex either until later. If I was disgusted by them and wanted them to stop and they didn't, then it would be rape. But that's not what happened. And it's not your place to say they were being immoral, because I'm telling you they weren't, we had relationships where we wouldn't want to make each other uncomfortable, even if pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?My mindset was "eh I guess I'll let her enjoy herself down there for a bit" even though I didn't enjoy it much at first, and then I got turned on after a bit. AKA it was a no (to sex) that turned into a yes (to sex) through consensual means since I wasn't really against the blowing, I just let her do it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?I said no I didn't feel like sex. I didn't say "no don't blow me" or "no dont try to turn me on so that I'll want to have sex". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?I think you missed the whole conversation lol. The topic was, it's not rape if one person says no at first, but then is seduced into having consensual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Did anyone force me to have sex? I wasn't raped even in the legal definition, and your insistence on calling it rape is extremely disturbing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Lol, you don't get to tell me I was raped when I say I wasn't. Nor was I coerced. Coersion: the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?I would say they did respect consent. None of my past partners raped me, and I have no issue with them having seduced me when I wasn't initially into it. Everyone was happy. None of them threatened or used force on me to have sex with me. If we take the example of the fuckbuddy who started blowing me to turn me on, if I'd told her "hey stop that" or pushed her away, she would've stopped. She did respect consent and there was no rape, I was just slowly turned on until I wanted to have sex with he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Would you say the same thing about my ex girlfriends and fuckbuddies? Did they rape me and disrespect my consent because they seduced me after I initially said no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 06:18 PM |
| 20 | What is it about happy couples on social media that trigger some in the manosphere?Denying facts you're given about the situation, and assuming every single relationship in the world boils down to "woman hypergamous; woman deny beta and sleep with alpha; woman date beta later", is not red pilled dude. You're just making incorrect assumptions about a situation you know nothing about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 06:16 PM |
| 6 | What is it about happy couples on social media that trigger some in the manosphere?We know that that couple isn't really "happy" - she's using him after getting banged out by Chads and Tyrones. If she is so "happy" with him, why couldn't she have been "Happy" with him 8 years ago? Why did she have to wait until her late 20s to figure it out? How many Chadrones blasted her insides before she "figured it out"? Dude she's not even attractive. The fact that you think she was blasted by Chadrones for 7 years shows you have very little dating experience. A girl like her is not landi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 06:14 PM |
| 31 | What is it about happy couples on social media that trigger some in the manosphere?Rollo Tomassi even got in on the action by retweeting this to his thousand of redpill followers. Rollo is a LARPing coward, the more years that go by the more I realize how substanceless that guy is. He had some good ideas in his book but he also clearly often doesn't know what the f he's talking about, has very little real world dating experience, and seems to have kept going downhill over the years. Him tweeting that is just so sad and pathetic lol. Why do you think some in the manosphere have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?Eh I don't see that as an example of rape, to me he's talking about respecting consent here, hence why he says if she's not into it he won't have sex with her. I've had girlfriends and sexual partners before who seduced me into sex when I wasn't initially in the mood (i.e. initially I said no), including starting to blow me while I was trying to fall asleep (which turned me on enough to then mutually engage and fuck her). That doesn't mean they raped me though, you can not be into something and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 05:48 PM |
| 2 | Q4Red-Pillers: What are your thoughts on modern-day sexual consent laws?There’s a lot of rapists out there who don’t see themselves as rapists. Curious, I skimmed the comments here and didn't see any comments defending what I'd view as rape. Can you give examples | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 04:42 PM |
| 0 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBrother, don't worry this is my last comment, but you should really know this is shitty behavior to call someone a child out of nowhere, and then ghost the conversation as soon as they reply showing you were wrong about them. Own up to your mistakes, there's nothing wrong with saying "Oh my bad I was wrong then, have a good day" or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 03:30 PM |
| 32 | 1 Approach a DayAnd if you’re scared of other people seeing you hit on girls – I’ve got an answer to that here. This one was a solid post, thanks for that link. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/09/21 02:56 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadHighly recommend diving into meditation, it helps loads with this stuff (and also just makes your mind healthier and more effective). Lmk you want a recommendation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadVice, Buzzfeed, NYT You're not missing out on much lol It's really starting to feel like as a young guy, that the media and social environment is really out to shit on you at the moment. Can't be enough that we're ignored, but we're also "oppressors" in an media environment we pretty much don't even exist in. Some media sources have this vibe, yeah, but why not just stay away from them? It's not like everyone in the world shits on men. Surround yourself with content and people who bring you up, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 09:52 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIs that really what becoming a proper man feels like? No, where did you get that from lol. You can be successful and happy and have win-win relationships with people in your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 09:49 PM |
| 5 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadDepends on the dynamic between you two, if he's really into you and you two act serious already though, and you'd enjoy it, sounds like there'd be no issues with that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 09:36 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI like how you just insulted me unwarrantedly and then didn't bother to reply to me when I showed you weren't even right about my opinion that you insulted me for Nice attack and ditch | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 04:12 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadhttps://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/pki1tj/daily_community_chat_megathread/hc3vfo3?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/pki1tj/daily_community_chat_megathread/hc4dlgl?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/pki1tj/daily_community_chat_megathread/hc3t7qa?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/pki1tj/daily_community_… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 05:03 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadO shit lol I see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 01:36 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI don't get it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 01:21 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBut seriously, for every guy you can pull out and say it worked, I can pull out 2-10 and show that it didn’t. Next. When you simply don’t physically do it So... your conclusion is to not try to have a good body? And, let women tell it, ‘going to gym just to get pussy is disgusting’. Lol. Lol women say a lot of stuff. Even my recent ex said she didn't care about muscles... right before admitting that touching my arm and feeling my muscles during sex turned her on even more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMale Feminist Pickup Artist | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThere's a whole video breaking down Adam Driver's attractiveness lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadto look weird If you look weird then you don't look good lol in a look they aren't comfortable with You can get used to it, esp if you experiment to try and find a more fashionable style that still matches your personality. I actually hired a stylist a while back to help with this, it made a big difference. And didn't take that much time or money in total. Lot of people don’t want to spend years of their time in a gym wearing down their bodies for a piece of pussy that isn’t guaranteed and may n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI’m not here to dunk on lonely guys. Yeah I don't mean to either even though their behavior (esp when they're negative and aggressive) sometimes frustrates me. I feel bad for them either way whether they're defeatist or not That being said, I don’t really hang around communities that are explicitly incel, so it’s kinda hard for me to tell if I’m talking to someone who’s genuinely willing to try (or has tried already). Makes sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 12:08 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAh, ok I understand. Makes sense. The "lifestyle stability" i.e. "can I count on this guy" feels like a combo of alpha + beta although it's just "beta" under the definitions I gave (which are basically the PPD definitions too). Like it's long-term mating related, but it feels alpha lol, like Rick from The Walking Dead | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 11:51 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYea, I just find it a shame that they found the blackpill and not the red pill though. The TRP sidebar alone has so much value packed into it that could help these guys and it's also on reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 11:49 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadEveryone moron that says "putting in the work and self-improvement worked for me bro" was 9 times out of 10 just originally fat or un(under)employed that also "coincidentally" happens to be 6 ft 2 with a decent face underneath the fat. Lol well it's worked well for me and I've never been fat and I'm not 6'2 so idk what to tell you. For what it's worth I have plenty of respect for a guy like you who tried to self improve for a decade (I am curious what types of things you did though). The guys I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 11:47 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBut if they are 4 guys, why are they incels? Well it depends on how you define "4". If a 4 guy is an incel it might be because even 4 women don't want to sleep with him. But if you define 4 as in "the guy that 4 women would be attracted to" then a 4 guy wouldn't be an incel. If you’re a 5 or 6 guy why go for a 4 woman? Wouldn’t you go for 5 or 6 women? When did we talk about a 5 or 6 guy going for a 4? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 11:45 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYeah it seems so much more common these days. Glad it's not just me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 11:06 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadlust This is characteristic of "alpha" (i.e. what makes a guy more desirable for short-term mating) emotional comfortlifestyle stability These are characteristic of "beta" (i.e. what makes a guy more desirable for long-term pairing) And yes, the ideal would be a certain combination of alpha + beta | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 10:27 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIf you’re a 4 guy then there should be 4 women available no? Why do you need to improve if there are women supposedly in your league? Multiple possible reasons: so that you can get 5s and above, or more frequent success with 4s, or better relations with 4s, etc. Why wouldn't you want to improve your dating results? If you can get a job at McDonalds why would you want to improve your career opportunities? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 10:22 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIt may seem like that from an observer perspective, especially over the internet, but you can't really say that unless you've seen their experiences yourself. You can when you see them comment that "there is no solution" and deny that lifting weights would help their situation when that's one of the biggest things that can help. Or when they look at that Asian pic I mentioned and don't see a single thing he could do to improve. (I wish I could find that pic but I can't) You have to fit some stan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadInternet, man. Why wouldnt people with defeatism congregate on an online forum? For sure. It's just sad to see | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 09:40 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWeight loss would be one circumstance. Going from the classical "nerdy" stereotype to jacked with good fashion can also dramatically up your SMV more than 2 points (I know someone like this in an online game community, he was the stereotypical nerdy kinda-chubby asian kid in school, and is now jacked and wears well-fitting masculine clothes; night and day difference). Honestly even in online dating, getting professional pictures from the right angles can make a 1-2 SMV difference alone. Let alon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 09:27 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadLike, I can agree with some of the complaints and empathize with a lot of the insecurities they have, but I can’t really sympathize with someone who outright refuses to try anything at all. 100%. When I first found out about the incel community I felt the utmost empathy and compassion for them. But the more posts/comments I see from men who talk like incels while clearly being unwilling to even try to do anything to improve their situation, including the bare minimum of regular exercise, the mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 09:22 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadHard to know how much you can improve until you give it your best shot though. Even a 3 could have potential to be an 8 depending on their circumstances (e.g. the Asian dude in the group pic I mentioned - getting an actual haircut, shaving his stache, packing on 10-20 lbs of muscle over 1-3 years, and improving his style could easily transform him from a 2 to a 6-7 IMO, going from incel to chad-lite). Also I don't even think going from 3-5 should be disappointing. Even outside of dating, people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 09:20 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYea I kinda agree it's probably harder/riskier to practice game these days (although I think there are still safe ways to slowly expand your comfort zone while socializing and work on your charisma / confidence / etc). Most guys can still do a lot to ascend though - lift weights, improve style, get a photoshoot for dating apps, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadbelieves he is able to fix it. Totally, and this last part is probably most relevant to this conversation and has to do with my main point. There have always been people out there who don't think there's anything they can do to improve their lives, but I've never seen that as part of an actual ideology/movement (in this case, the black pill) where people as a whole collectively "agree" that there's nothing they can ever do, they're just doomed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 09:12 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAt the same time, the economy has become increasingly unequal and the dating market has gone digital in a way that further skews the opportunities of bottom tier and top tier men. Eh, sure, but there were always a lot of unsuccessful men tbh. But they'd be called virgins, not incels. The movement of being totally hopeless and concluding there's nothing you can ever do, not even random chance can land you a girl because you're just doomed from your genetics to be eternally unattractive... seems l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 09:10 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAnyway, it's largely an assumption that these guys have never really tried at all. Their experiences have put them where they are. It's also problematic that those types of guys are just told to "improve" as if there's no ceiling for improvement. We should acknowledge that some people are just born unfortunate, but that would involve considering thoughts that challenge a lot of people's worldviews to the point where they avoid thinking those things already. I used to have this mindset of yours, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 09:04 PM |
| 4 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadHow the hell can you focus on fixing 8 things that are wrong about yourself if you struggle just to get out of bed in the morning? Right, then that's just the first thing to focus on. And there are concrete things you can do to lift yourself out of depression (speaking from personal experience here): meditation, psychedelics, journaling, spending time in nature, regular cardio, etc. Not guaranteed to cure the depression but definitely possible and worth putting a solid effort into rather than ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 09:03 PM |
| 12 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIs it just me, or does PPD have way more victim-mindset men these days who are convinced there's nothing they can do to improve their dating lives? Just guys who jumped straight to the black pill even though they probably have never properly tried to improve their physique, fashion, social skills, or game (i.e. TRP 101). Legit saw a post once on the now-banned incelswithouthate sub, showing an asian teenager in a group pic on the beach with a gross wispy moustache, big nerdy glasses, swimshorts … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 08:34 PM |
| 2 | Because most men haven't figured it out yet, the reason most 'advice' seems a bit cuckoo...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3owSSPoTdaE | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 05:35 PM |
| 6 | Because most men haven't figured it out yet, the reason most 'advice' seems a bit cuckoo...Says the guy who thinks that "Bro, you gotta work on x, y, and z." is "stepping on" you instead of trying to give you actionable advice. Dude get off this sub (PurplePillDebate) if all you want to do is whine and vent while posting a CMV but not being open to an actual debate. I'm sure there are echo chambers you could be more happy in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 05:21 PM |
| 5 | Because most men haven't figured it out yet, the reason most 'advice' seems a bit cuckoo...Nice argument, do you know what a "CMV" is? Or a "debate"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 05:15 PM |
| 6 | Because most men haven't figured it out yet, the reason most 'advice' seems a bit cuckoo...No, advice != pointing out a flaw. The way you worded your post, yes it is. "Man I can't get much work done during the day." "Oh you should try the Pomodoro technique." <== implying the person hasn't tried out the Pomodoro technique yet, or in your words, implying the second person has "achieved some state of being greater than the speaker" by using the Pomodoro technique. Go back to grammar school, dipshit. ^ Implying I didn't do grammar school properly and you did. Pointing out a flaw of mine … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 05:12 PM |
| 5 | Because most men haven't figured it out yet, the reason most 'advice' seems a bit cuckoo...Dude, no shit. By definition advice involves telling you to do something you're not doing yet, i.e. pointing out a flaw. Would you prefer to whine and complain and just have people pity you instead, without giving any advice or pointing out anything you could do differently, so that you can wallow in your sadness and shitty situation forever without trying anything? "I can't attract a woman." ---> "Bro, you gotta work on x, y, and z." The implication is that this person has...achieved some state… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingThen what circumstances lead to women being hypergamous? In the study (pdf), the circumstances where the men were the ones to rotate. When the women rotated, you could think of it as them not acting hypergamously, since they said "yes I'd be interested in seeing this person again" to a higher percentage of men than the men did (47.86% vs 43.07%). Women have been given the equality they’re asked for, yet a partner still needs to “outperform” her in a sense. Usually financially, but looks and soci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 04:08 AM |
| 1 | Is there an element of homosexuality in misandry and misogyny?It's not purge week yet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 02:45 AM |
| 5 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingits not as if when a man asks you out it means he likes you. it just means maybe he'd have sex with you if you made it convenient for him. That's a really interesting point that I haven't thought much about before, and yeah that would definitely skew the relationship marketplace. And I show affection to them through so many ways (words, affectionate touch, cooking for them, and way more oral than the reverse) and they just... don't. Aw man that sucks, yeah unfortunately those are probably only g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 10:00 PM |
| 6 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingbecause men ask us out like 50x as fast as we would ask a man out. Right, but that's largely because you have so much choice and don't have any incentive to put more effort into dating. The vast majority of girls I know don't ask guys out, they pick from the guys who ask them out. If a guy decided to wait around for those girls to ask him out, nothing would happen. but y'all aren't doing that now and you hate what it's like now. so maybe its not a good strategy I didn't say I hate it. I do think… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 09:21 PM |
| 6 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingWe're talking about a societal wide phenomenon here that affects the dating marketplace whether you're a guy who waits for the girl to make a move or not. The fact is that women generally play a passive role in early dating, so if you're a guy who waits around, not much is going to happen. If it were up to me to change the whole dating marketplace, simps who pay money for onlyfans wouldn't exist either, and women would play an equal part in flirting with dudes they like and moving into dating, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingYou can’t make the argument that hypergamy isn’t real then make the argument that hypergamy is only more prevalent in certain circumstances than others. (School vs Club) Well based on her comment that you just replied to, it's pretty clear that when she says "hypergamy isn't real", she means it's not an inwired biological trait, but rather a product of circumstances. I.e. women are not inherently hypergamous. It's an interesting point to make (the way we usually talk about hypergamy frames it as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Is a balding man equivalent to an obese female in thr dating hierarchy?Haha well you're talking to someone who only gets a haircut at most every few months anyway | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 05:03 PM |
| 4 | Reminder: No One CaresWhy do you care if other people care about your struggles? If you've overcome a bunch of struggles and now have a good life, the good life is the reward, not other people patting you on the back for overcoming struggles. I say this as someone who went through a lot of stuff in the past but now live a good life, and I just enjoy my good life now. I don't try to use my past struggles as a way to get appreciation or praise from others, cause even if I did, that wouldn't be much reward compared to t… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/09/21 03:38 PM |
| 9 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingGreat points, I agree. I had the same thought - this is likely another factor why it can be easier for a guy to date a high quality girl he met through his social circle. I.e. it's not just because of the "trust" from the social circle but also the more equal playing field where there's no clear "pursuer", it's just a limited number of people meeting each other casually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 03:21 PM |
| 80 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingDating apps aren't good spaces where to observe female sexuality since real-life interactions show a different story. Online vs real-life wasn't the variable in the study though. The variable was whether it was the men going around to different women, or the women going around to different men. Thing is, currently both dating apps and in-person interactions usually have the woman as the more passive participant. So the pattern both on- and off-line will largely tend towards women being more pick… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 02:35 PM |
| 3 | Is a balding man equivalent to an obese female in thr dating hierarchy?Bald is just a low maintenance hairstyle. I always imagined it as pretty tedious to shave it regularly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 02:14 PM |
| 10 | Describe the Perfect WomanLooks - I seem to be into smaller chicks (e.g. 5'3) but a girl my size would be fine too as long as she was in shape. Face is key, I'm really particular on face and there are certain looks that I feel particular chemistry with for some reason. Personality - chill, sense of humor, down to earth and able to enjoy the present moment, open to adventures. Cares about substance and connection more than fitting into appearances or on-paper success. Interesting views on life, intelligent / has quality i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 05:47 AM |
| 4 | Chapter 4: If your objective more sex and money, this is where you need to startDude are you seriously afraid to quit porn and video games, and considering it a "giant change" as if it's some big risk you're taking? Jesus man, and you're calling everyone else retards? Go ahead man, keep grating your carrot and playing COD every night, like another commenter said, no one's stopping you lol | /r/TheRedPill | 07/09/21 02:00 AM |
| 5 | Chapter 4: If your objective more sex and money, this is where you need to startGot it, you like to self-victimize and have your hand held through every possible scenario of quitting porn and video games. Have you even read the sidebar lol | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/21 11:07 PM |
| 7 | Chapter 4: If your objective more sex and money, this is where you need to startWhat if I quit porn and video games and it does nothing for me? At the very least you'll either have developed a life skill of self control, or proven to yourself that you already have that life skill. At best, you'll experience additional benefits from quitting those (and ideally having more time and mental energy for more productive things in life like working out, meditating, and doing well at school/work). This is a pretty long post, you should have covered that as well. Bro this is TRP wher… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/21 10:50 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhy is this even a question lol, women like sex and romance too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/21 09:41 PM |
| 4 | Why do men take such interest in avoiding child support, but so little interest in avoiding pregnancy?... that was an unexpected reply I'm sorry that happened to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/21 06:43 PM |
| 5 | Almost All Love Is Conditional, Those Who Display Unconditional Love Are Rarely RespectedThese men both in PPD and out of it are whining endlessly about having to have a job or be financially stable at all considering it too high a standard for family minded women. Literally. There are too many posts and comments on this for you to seriously suggest they aren't doing this. Do you have any links to these sorts of posts? Guys literally complaining about needing a job? There are all sorts of posts/comments on this sub, many of which I shake my head at and ignore (including many from bi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/21 05:20 PM |
| 3 | Almost All Love Is Conditional, Those Who Display Unconditional Love Are Rarely RespectedAw that's awesome. Happy for you two | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/21 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Almost All Love Is Conditional, Those Who Display Unconditional Love Are Rarely RespectedThis is absolutely a thing that exists. I love that phenomenon. Its like god put a fairness system inside my libido/perception. Ah have you experienced it yourself? I've definitely been concerned before when imagining being in a proper LTR (like past 30s / 40s) and losing attraction to my partner, so I'm glad wife goggles seem to be a thing for a lot of guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/21 03:54 PM |
| 14 | Almost All Love Is Conditional, Those Who Display Unconditional Love Are Rarely RespectedEither don't complain that women don't want do charity work by marrying an adult man who doesn't even have his own money as it's not even possible to live off one income these days Do men here really complain about being expected to have a job? I don't think I've seen that once, never seen a guy complain about not being able to be a stay at home dad who the wife takes care of financially. Guess what , being desired for something as shallow as your physical appearance which will inevitably fade a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/21 03:31 PM |
| 3 | Why do men take such interest in avoiding child support, but so little interest in avoiding pregnancy?I mean yeah it's worse for the single mom, but still a pretty big loss to shell out 17% (an example figure in the article you linked) of your after-tax income every month to a kid you didn't want. I think it's more that these guys don't responsibly weigh the consequences of child support against the pleasure of going raw in the moment, and less that they just don't care because they don't suffer consequences. paying 430~500$/mo on average The average US salary is $31K/year, so $5-6K/year is alre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/21 09:18 PM |
| 7 | Why do men take such interest in avoiding child support, but so little interest in avoiding pregnancy?Know when Carlin say “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that”? Lol that is a hilarious line and kind of disheartening for sure But still my main point was the guy does face consequences. It's the stupid lady who ends up with a kid, but the stupid guy ends up with child support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/21 08:02 PM |
| 19 | Why do men take such interest in avoiding child support, but so little interest in avoiding pregnancy?Eh I disagree, I'm paranoid about accidental pregnancy and that's not just for the girl's sake (which it is partially, I do care about the girls I sleep with), it's for my own, child support is not something I'd wanna deal with. I guess she could get an abortion but 1) it's not guaranteed she'd want that, and 2) it's just a hassle I'd hugely prefer not to deal with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/21 07:04 PM |
| 2 | High-testosterone men reject low ultimatum game offers | Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological SciencesI googled "average guy" and this was the first result. IME guys who don't work out usually look like this or worse (body wise) and this is with a shirt on. I doubt this guy you're talking about looks this bad. I don't think you understood my question. You're saying he looks "normal". I'm saying if he didn't work out, I'm guessing he'd look worse than this "normal" you're referring to. My main point is very practical here. Work out well, consistently, it's worth it, you'll look better and feel be… | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/09/21 06:15 AM |
| – | Do you really find most women attractive?According to TRP, women are the principal cause of their own dating woes. Basic Bitch Becky has a horde of orbiters willing to wife her up, but she snubs them because of her "inflated standards". Billy Beta is desperate for love from a woman - pretty much any woman - but the best he can get is a used-up beef curtain who'll cast him off when convenient. This feels like MGTOW shit, or at most failed-red-pill shit, not actual TRP stuff where the goal is to be high value and have a high quality dati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/21 02:29 AM |
| 1 | High-testosterone men reject low ultimatum game offers | Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological SciencesYou're saying this dude works out a LOT? What do you think he'd look like if he never worked out? If the answer is "the exact same" it sounds like he either doesn't work out that much, or doesn't push hard when he does. Also "work out" is vague, you could do a shitload of cardio and still look meh (but still better than you'd look if you never worked out), or you could lift weights hard and consistently, put on some muscle, and look way better. | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/09/21 02:12 AM |
| 1 | High-testosterone men reject low ultimatum game offers | Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological SciencesWell yeah getting jacked takes a specific process, and not everybody who works out 1) knows how to do it properly, or 2) even cares to get jacked. That doesn't contradict what I've said | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/09/21 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Do you think a lot of women just aren’t physically attracted to most of their partners?No need to pitch it, just whip it out Edit - sorry my preacher took my phone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/21 12:45 AM |
| 3 | Do you think that bisexual people make better romantic and sexual partners?Sure, but the "can't control them with sex" is part of the displaying of abundance. It doesn't turn girls off, that's my point. If a bi dude turns a girl off it's not because he can't be controlled with sex, it's because she thinks of him as more feminine, or because he's not attractive in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/21 07:19 PM |
| 2 | Do you think that bisexual people make better romantic and sexual partners?Lol not at all, women love guys with abundance. Women don't like bi dudes because being bi makes him seem more feminine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/21 06:38 PM |
| -2 | My Insane 1 Year Muscle Building Journey With SteroidsAnd by genetics you mean "just being human" right, cause what I described is the exact same for every homosapien on this planet. Lol no, I specifically mentioned fast- vs slow-twitch fibers as one important aspect of genetics related to muscle growth. Other factors can include natural free test levels, sheer number of muscle cells you're born with, etc. In order for a 225lbs squat to be a "natural limit", someone would have to be 4'8 and weighing under 100lbs. 315lbs is attainable by anyone over… | /r/TheRedPill | 03/09/21 06:20 PM |
| 0 | My Insane 1 Year Muscle Building Journey With SteroidsBuilding power isn't very complicated, you pummel your muscles with progressively higher loads causing them to break down and forcing them to rebuild stronger and larger then before. It depends on your genetics man. If you have good fast twitch fibers then yes, definitely, simply pummeling your muscles and having time to recover will make them grow stronger so that you can put more weight on the bar. The average skinny Kenyan marathon runner built for endurance (slow-twitch fibers) will not easi… | /r/TheRedPill | 03/09/21 05:49 PM |
| 18 | High-testosterone men reject low ultimatum game offers | Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological SciencesJacked is a spectrum. A guy who works out regularly looks WAY better than a guy who has no muscle, even if the first guy doesn't look like Zyzz. And yes, steroids are an option if you do wanna look properly "jacked" (but do a bunch of research first on how to do them healthily), but if you don't already work out hard and consistently, start there, because you're really shortchanging yourself otherwise. | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/09/21 05:20 PM |
| -2 | My Insane 1 Year Muscle Building Journey With Steroidsyoure now using steroids to compensate the fact that you don't like doing the work in the gym. Some people just have shitty muscle building genetics dude. Just because someone can't squat 315 naturally doesn't mean they didn't work their ass off in the gym. | /r/TheRedPill | 03/09/21 03:13 PM |
| 32 | High-testosterone men reject low ultimatum game offers | Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological SciencesThen get jacked, people expect jacked guys to stand up for themselves even if they're short | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/09/21 03:08 PM |
| 1 | The name of the game is brutal, painful honesty on this prompt folks.Are they bitter or are they just revealing unflattering things about women? You can decide that for yourself. Check out Donovan Sharpe's youtube channel for example and see if you get a positive or bitter vibe from his content. Right because he's not talking about the worse aspects of female nature. No, he actually talks about a lot of the same things that "bitter" redpillers talk about (hypergamy, emotional decision making, even the "women are like children" message), but he talks about them fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/21 08:26 PM |
| 0 | The name of the game is brutal, painful honesty on this prompt folks.I mean he's right, the cream of the community is guys who are experienced with women and some of them are awesome and have healthy relationships + mindsets... but a LOT of the community you see online is bitter dudes who criticize women constantly. The Book of Pook from the TRP sidebar is a great example of an experienced guy with a healthy + positive mindset though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/21 06:44 PM |
| 10 | The name of the game is brutal, painful honesty on this prompt folks.Sounds like you have shitty friends, I don't know a single guy who would do that (or has done that) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/21 06:34 PM |
| 2 | What would be the female equivalent of a man being traumatized by his wife/GF's sexual past?Sounds good | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/21 07:01 AM |
| 0 | Redpill ideology: what is it's moral stance on sexuality?Ah ok. All good lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/21 05:28 AM |
| 1 | Redpill ideology: what is it's moral stance on sexuality?I don't see how it backfired. But thanks for the downvote 😗 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/21 05:23 AM |
| 2 | What would be the female equivalent of a man being traumatized by his wife/GF's sexual past?Totally. What was the issue in the end? (No need to say if you don't feel like it tho) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/21 05:21 AM |
| 1 | Redpill ideology: what is it's moral stance on sexuality?Lol this dude doesn't speak for the red pill, the red pill is more about understanding gender / sexual dynamics and each man is still entitled to engage in relationships / casual sex / etc as he pleases. Ironic how condescending he's being and saying you think you know everything about TRP, and meanwhile he's acting that way while being wrong about the community. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/21 05:20 AM |
| 1 | Redpill ideology: what is it's moral stance on sexuality?They were being sarcastic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/21 05:16 AM |
| 3 | What would be the female equivalent of a man being traumatized by his wife/GF's sexual past?Aw man I remember you were so optimistic about that relationship, sorry to hear bro | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/21 04:31 AM |
| 2 | The Good KittyI promise, the guys you're imagining probably hold resemblance to the guys from the bachelor TV show. Lol they actually don't. I don't even personally find them that attractive, I just observed that women find them both extremely physically attractive and they're the most sexually successful guys I know by a long shot. But I wouldn't look at them and think they're models or belong on the Bachelor. | /r/TheRedPill | 31/08/21 10:46 PM |
| 2 | The Good KittyWhen I was invited to some parties, a drunk girl would pick me out of all the guys, yell "come here, sexy!" and we'd have a drunk make out session. Lol you def are very attractive, I can only think of two guys IRL off the top of my head that something like this would even remotely happen to | /r/TheRedPill | 31/08/21 06:04 PM |
| 5 | You Need to Give Girls the Space to be Cool.Yes, a dude making a joke about Vas and a coworker casually brushing sand off each other would definitely result in an actual HR issue... Pay attention to the story being told. Ok cool guy, trying to be the HNIC here too? Goddamn | /r/TheRedPill | 29/08/21 03:00 PM |
| 1 | You Need to Give Girls the Space to be Cool.Never give a passive-aggressive male the room to linger around and mope and get more frustrated and then start to recruit the other frustrated thirsty beta males. You're afraid of beta males ganging up on you? I'm confused | /r/TheRedPill | 29/08/21 01:53 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThat hypergamy thread is a perfect example of what I was talking about with Sonic the other day; even in 'Discussion' threads, some people take a more adversarial (sometimes performative) stance and try to "win" the conversation. Absolutely lmao, it was literally just a question about definition | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/21 06:02 PM |
| 2 | What does 'Hypergamy' mean to you?I believe that you have to follow the meaning of the word. 'Hypergamy' means to mate upwards in some way, and thus refers to a direct comparison between the woman and her potential mate. A lot of what TRP calls hypergamy is actually female sexual selectivity, which is more about ranking men and trying to get the best one they can get. Of course, these are related. Correct, a lot of people misuse the word "hypergamy". "Branch swinging" or more generally "sexual selectivity" as you put it would be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/21 03:11 PM |
| 90 | You Need to Give Girls the Space to be Cool.“Look, I know you’re trying to be funny, but Do Not EVER say shit like that again.” It was a teachable moment, so I added “Girls want to be cool, too, but you have to give them the space to do it, and you can’t say stupid shit that makes them uncomfortable for No Fucking Reason.” This is a pretty intense reaction to his joke and seems pretty risky (e.g. could have killed the fun group dynamic). I have no doubt you pulled it off since you're tall + jacked + alpha, so you can almost (or actually) … | /r/TheRedPill | 27/08/21 06:42 PM |
| 2 | The same way men were lied to about women, women were lied to about men.Yeah those are pretty self-deprecating beta quotes, but they have nothing to do with "tolerate abuse". The first one is definitely just said in the context of "if she nags just go with it" which is much more mild, as cringy as it is. And like Luna points out, they're said by men, not told to women as lies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/21 07:59 AM |
| 3 | Men have to choose between success with women and having male friendships - agree or disagree?Lol Men can be vulnerable with their male friends without their women being around to see it Women are attracted to masculinity but "femininity" can also provide comfort in the confines of a romantic relationship, and as long as it doesn't get out of hand it doesn't have to be a dealbreaker at all (and can actually help bond the man + woman if done in a non-weak way) The dude sounds like he's probably never had a (healthy) relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/21 02:47 AM |
| 6 | The same way men were lied to about women, women were lied to about men.Ok well half of them are ridiculous, if you don't even agree with them yourself why list them? Women were not taught that real men are doormats. If you want me to step in and help you on this one, I'd say that women were taught that real men will come and swoop them off their feet like Prince Charming. But they weren't taught that Prince Charming was a doormat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/21 01:30 AM |
| 5 | The same way men were lied to about women, women were lied to about men.Dude just come up with an example of a lie women have been taught about men lol. We can easily come up with examples of the opposite, e.g. men were taught "being a kind and romantic gentleman is the most attractive way a man can behave". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/21 01:23 AM |
| 7 | The same way men were lied to about women, women were lied to about men.You're the one making the claims and providing the examples, how are we supposed to "change your view" without addressing the "view" you provided | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/21 01:02 AM |
| 14 | The same way men were lied to about women, women were lied to about men."If you can't handle me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best." This is the only quote I've actually heard before, and it's not something that women are taught, it's just something that some toxic women say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/21 12:51 AM |
| 46 | The same way men were lied to about women, women were lied to about men.A real man tolerates abuse, shitty behavior, and unfairness from women. Lol what? When were women sold this lie? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/21 12:30 AM |
| 7 | How to SexI don't think the things you mentioned are what makes for the best sex IMO, I'd recommend reading Sex God Method to really up your sex game. For example this post doesn't talk about dominance or dirty talk which are two of the most massive things in sex to turn a chick on the most. Daniel Rose does a pretty phenomenal description in SGM of them and how to practice / get better at them. Coconut oil is indeed awesome but it makes condoms less effective so unless she's on birth control (which I nev… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/08/21 11:30 AM |
| 2 | Blaming men for all the miseries of women is only causing more issues in society.You're bringing way too many disparate issues into the same conversation. I'll address a few of them though: Women are paid less, because men are paid more. I just googled this to try and find the latest accurate figures, and Wikipedia now says that in the US, after adjusting for occupation / hours worked / etc, the average woman makes 95% of the average man's salary. So yeah, this probably isn't a huge issue these days (at least in the US), but historically women have definitely unjustly strugg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/21 01:37 AM |
| 1 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.Disregarding your mates feelings is not love, the end I've said this in so many previous comments, I'm surprised you're not realizing this. If this was indeed the reason - he didn't make an effort to change because he just didn't care about your feelings, even after knowing you'd leave over it - that makes complete sense. If there's a lack of love in the relationship (or poor communication that can't be rectified), it makes sense to end it. It's not the dishes, it's the underlying issues that th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/21 12:47 AM |
| 1 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.I was an RA in college. If students from different countries with wildly different cleanliness standards can find a way to compromise and live together peacefully, so can a grown ass married couple who theoretically loved each other deeply and made a commitment to stick together through thick and thin. Bar is low indeed... this is basic communication and conflict resolution, and again, if one or both of you were poor at those skills, that's the real issue in your relationship. Not dishes. Commun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 11:29 PM |
| 1 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.That's pretty sad that a messy living situation would outweigh the love that (hopefully) sparked you to commit (in writing and in law) to keep loving a person for your entire life. If you really divorced someone over that, I'd doubt the extent of your love in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 10:59 PM |
| 1 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.Relationship or marriage? If this was just a relationship then this whole thread was pointless lol, my original quote was a literal wedding line about loving each other forever. Ending a relationship over something small is common and generally seen as acceptable since people can have their own dating preferences. Ending a lifelong commitment to love each other forever is another thing and that's what this whole thread was about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 08:11 PM |
| 1 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.Ah ok I misunderstood that part my bad. Although if you're claiming this was the whole reason for the _ (divorce? breakup? again it matters here), I'd guess this came up in conversation a lot more than during cleaning time, in which case the method of conversation / conflict resolution / etc (on both sides) matters as well, and is part of the full picture which we don't have. If he sucked at conflict resolution, hearing you out, etc, that's also a bigger issue there than "things were too messy". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 07:57 PM |
| 1 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.I nagged him all the time on Sunday, yes Huh? I said “divorce or break up” in a general sense This whole thread has been in the context of marriage, you didn't answer basically anything in my last comment lol. But it's cool I've said enough thoughts on this anyway, not personally invested in this situation but wishing you the best for future relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 07:49 PM |
| 1 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.You're saying the few sentences of information you gave us (including that you nagged him all the time) is the full picture of the relationship? There's a reason I was able to come up with like 20 possible explanations above, off the top of my head, given the limited information you've given us. If we had a full picture, none of my explanations would make sense (or they'd be redundant) as they'd be inconsistent with (or equivalent to) that full picture. Also important is if this was a marriage o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 07:29 PM |
| 1 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.Opposite of assumptions actually, every single point had a "maybe". I'm saying we don't know the full picture in the slightest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 07:07 PM |
| 1 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.Hard to say who's more to blame, we're getting a very limited picture into the relationship. So far the info I've been given is: She wanted him to clean more, and nagged him all the time to do so Maybe he was just being a lazy SOB, maybe he was depressed, maybe he didn't care about her... all possible explanations, each with unique implications on the relationship Maybe she was a clean freak and cared more than a reasonable amount about having the house clean, maybe she was really angry and had … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 05:58 PM |
| 1 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.I'm not mad at anyone, I'm saying there were deeper issues in the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 05:19 PM |
| 1 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.No, spoken like someone who thinks sex should be mutually enjoyable for both parties | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 05:01 PM |
| 1 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.No, read my other comments in this thread | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 05:01 PM |
| 1 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.Again, sounds like much deeper issues in the relationship than simply "he didn't clean enough", at most it seems like that was a symptom of a much larger problem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 04:35 PM |
| 1 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.Right, which was my original point as well. The original commenter said the dishes were the reason, and I was very suspicious of that. At the very least I'd think the dishes allowed deeper issues (poor conflict resolution, lack of love, etc) to emerge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 04:33 PM |
| 16 | There is no 100% PC Way of Approaching Women Without Risking to Appear CREEPYNot if she only sleeps with men above a certain SMV threshold, which is usually what happens when women date/sleep around | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 04:31 PM |
| 2 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment."do other things for you" was one of the things I mentioned. Also I'm not a huge fan of the "do a bunch of things for your wife" idea you mention, that's why I mentioned something like "go on adventures with you" rather than "take you on adventures", I prefer the idea of an equal partnership filled with chemistry and love rather than some traditional "m'lady you are a princess and I will buy you this spa treatment out of nowhere". Unless the girl also does things like that for the guy - which is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 04:03 PM |
| 1 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.Depends on the context. That's why in my comments I'm alluding to a bigger problem. If the context was "he didn't do the dishes, I showed how much it hurt me and he still didn't do them, I threatened to leave and he still didn't make an effort", that absolutely points to a lack of love on his part which is a much bigger problem than a few messy dishes. If the context was "he made some effort to clean them but he's just lazy when it comes to cleaning, but in the rest of the relationship he treate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 03:56 PM |
| 18 | There is no 100% PC Way of Approaching Women Without Risking to Appear CREEPYThe idea is that by sleeping with multiple guys, they're not certain of paternity and each guy knows there's a chance the baby is his, and might help give resources to raise it due to that chance. (In caveman times ofc not modern times) Ofc it might not be true, but it's an interesting evo-psych theory I haven't heard before and seems plausible | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 03:51 PM |
| 2 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.“cuddles “ (which usually only come about when sex is desired) Huuuuge red flag that you think cuddles only happen when a guy wants sex. Maybe you've just had shitty relationships. I mentioned "cuddles" as part of painting a broader picture of a relationship that could be extremely fulfilling and loving even when one party is too lazy to do dishes. And nah I'm not moaning, this situation wouldn't happen to me in the first place, I have healthy relationships with good chemistry, and I do more tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 03:47 PM |
| 2 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.Men who don’t show appreciation to their partner I like how you skipped over all the possible ways I mentioned a guy might show appreciation for his partner other than cleaning. I like how you also assume I'm the sort of guy to not clean, when really I'm just shocked that someone who was, in theory, so in love with her partner as to say "I want to love and be with you for the rest of my life and sign a binding contract with that intention" would then get a divorce because the living situation wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 03:42 PM |
| 14 | There is no 100% PC Way of Approaching Women Without Risking to Appear CREEPYWhoa that was an interesting read. Clears up for me why many women like to date/sleep around, that's often confused me from an evo-psych lens | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 03:34 PM |
| 19 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.Tbh the fact that you describe sex like a favor points to a deeper issue in itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 04:15 AM |
| 3 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.Divorces happen for all sorts of reasons. I'm sure many of them happen for trivial reasons but many of them happen for serious/legit reasons as well, and I'm sure there are couples out there who are more committed to each other both ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 04:12 AM |
| 5 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment.Eh, semantics... getting mad over someone being too lazy to clean the dishes could be classified as not loving/cherishing either. End of the day he might be a lazy SOB but still love you, care about you, do other things for you, treat you with respect when he talks to you, cuddle you, go on adventures with you, etc. Saying "he didn't do the dishes so he didn't love me so I divorced him" seems pretty reductionist and extreme to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 03:05 AM |
| 6 | The "household chores distribution" (specifically the cleaning part) debate between men and women boils down to men and women on average having different standards for what constitutes a clean/tidy environment and what constitutes a mess/dirty environment."To love and to cherish, in sickness and in health... unless you don't do the dishes" Jk. I'm guessing it was more than just "he didn't clean enough" that led to the divorce though. Much more. Hopefully. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/21 02:53 AM |
| 1 | RedPill Men, Do You Believe that People Can Uhhhh Love Each Other?Do you believe that people can love each other? Yes Are you hoping to marry someone you can call your best friend? It'd be nice but I'm not holding out on it, if it happens it happens. I haven't met an amazing match yet personality wise even though I've met many girls I had great chemistry with and definitely loved (mutually), even if the relationship ended. Believing that lifting weights and becoming more confident + dominant in the right ways can help your dating life, doesn't preclude being l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/21 09:47 PM |
| 2 | Why the sexual market place will ALWAYS be skewed towards women in a free society.There might be a correlation but not much of a causation. The fact that chicks on Tinder only swipe right on like 5% of guys doesn't come from their low sex drive, it comes from their pickiness. It's not like they only swipe right when their sex drive spontaneously spikes up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/21 03:39 PM |
| 2 | Why the sexual market place will ALWAYS be skewed towards women in a free society.Most men, need sex daily so most men have drastically lower standards Lol you're saying you sleep with ugly women so you can get laid everyday? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/21 02:45 AM |
| 11 | Why the sexual market place will ALWAYS be skewed towards women in a free society.Picky in an evolutionary sense (survival and reproduction), not in a "is this a good person" sense. A cavewoman might likely have been better off getting pumped and dumped by the tribe alpha (who might still help ensure the survival of his baby, even if he wasn't committed to the woman) than the small beta whose children would also be small and weak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/21 12:06 AM |
| 18 | Why the sexual market place will ALWAYS be skewed towards women in a free society.The relationship market is also skewed towards women. It has nothing to do with sex drive, it has to do with women being pickier. And women are pickier because they evolved to be (higher investment on the woman's part, evolutionarily speaking - due to pregnancy - means that they'd better be super picky about who they enter a relationship with and thus likely have babies with). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/21 11:25 PM |
| 3 | Afghanistan Discussion Mega-ThreadIt's nice and all to say they want world peace, but it's also fucked up how they treat women and take away their agency. A friend of mine who grew up there knows she could very well have been married off to some dude who'd rape and beat her if she hadn't been able to move to the West. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/21 09:29 PM |
| 2 | Women not wanting to date you because you’re ugly, short, and not attractive are valid reasons to not want to sex/date you.Wtf lol. Linking the whole sub doesn't help your case of "it's not a strawman" if you can't come up with specific examples of people saying something as retarded as "the government should intervene to make women date people they don't want to date" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/21 05:30 AM |
| 2 | Women not wanting to date you because you’re ugly, short, and not attractive are valid reasons to not want to sex/date you.Links? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/21 03:46 AM |
| 6 | Women not wanting to date you because you’re ugly, short, and not attractive are valid reasons to not want to sex/date you.It's not like this whole post is a strawman and barely anyone in the "pillosphere" would actually say something like "women should date people they don't want to date" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/21 02:26 AM |
| 5 | Are you happy with relationships where your partner doesn't find you genuinely attractive?I think it's more that the hotter you think you are, the more options you think you have / the less relatively attractive you likely find your partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/21 12:12 AM |
| 3 | Are you happy with relationships where your partner doesn't find you genuinely attractive?Wholesome | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 11:48 PM |
| 16 | Are you happy with relationships where your partner doesn't find you genuinely attractive?On the male side, there is TRP/PUA that many of you have said help get you more sex. Yet they don't do very much to make you more physically attractive. Wait what? TRP, where Rule 1 is to lift weights, doesn't make you more physically attractive? PUA is where I learned game and that "looks don't matter". TRP is where I learned looks indeed matter, and started working more on my style + physique while retaining the useful game I learned. Not to mention that game itself (certain parts of it, e.g. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 11:46 PM |
| 4 | Agreeableness and TRPI do think asshole behavior can be attractive to girls, but that's only because being an asshole requires a certain amount of confidence and social status. E.g., popular bullies in high school are assholes because they can get away with it due to their popularity. Or when you tease someone (which you can do in an asshole or non-asshole way), you feel comfortable doing that because you're at or above their level in the social hierarchy. It's definitely not required though, you can show confidence… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 08:33 PM |
| 2 | Agreeableness and TRPKinda confusing question, but I can generally provide some thoughts: Regional culture and how boys/men are raised is very related. I've heard that in South America, men are much more sexually assertive / masculine / etc and I think that'd be a feedback loop from South American culture ("regional culture"), which would bleed into how men are raised as well (or, I'm guessing, men there follow other men, and boys are simply not raised to be overly agreeable like many men in the US are). For me: my … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 05:43 PM |
| 3 | Some of the blue pill gaslighting that doesn't exist.Something like this just always seemed intuitive to me. Like she's your girlfriend of course she likes the attention. I probably learned that through early relationship experimentation. I never really got any direct instructions on stuff like that iirc. Yeah this is stuff that a lot of guys never learn, and if anything are taught is stuff to avoid. Happy for you that you learned it on your own. FWIW it's more than just attention, it's direct sexual attention from a place of confidence and mascul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 05:04 PM |
| – | What community do I belong to?Real-life friends are more important than an internet group. You and I are somewhat similar, in that I consider myself redpilled, but I strongly disagree with certain things in the redpill community (which, by the way, is massive - there are countless disagreeing opinions in the niche). I enjoy what I can relate to TRP on, and the rest, I disengage. You're right that it's nice to have a group you fit into, but the ultimate form of this is a proper friend circle. Most of my friends don't actively… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 04:20 PM |
| 3 | Some of the blue pill gaslighting that doesn't exist.Lol absolutely, thank you for the extra clarification (legit). There's a lot of nuance to this stuff, it's not just "ruh ruh be a caveman then woman get wet" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 04:06 PM |
| 2 | TRP is just a different Blue PillI'm curious what you learned from TRP that led you to this relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 03:52 PM |
| 1 | TRP is just a different Blue PillIf learning certain ideas from the red pill community allowed him to attract a 22 y/o hottie as a 59 y/o man, which he was never able to do before, there must be at least some truth to those certain ideas, no? Like take the idea of acting professional in a job interview. I'm sure some employers don't care about professionalism, but for the most part, acting professional will lead to higher success. So maybe it's not some 100% objective truth that "acting professional in an interview is good to d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 03:44 PM |
| 6 | Some of the blue pill gaslighting that doesn't exist.I think that's why TRPers assume everyone else holds the same belief, when really very few of us did. I'm curious what sort of environment/culture you grew up in where you learned that if you wanted to improve your dating life, one of the best things would be to lift + act more confident. It goes deeper than "lift + be confident" too - e.g. once I got into TRP / pickup / etc, my roommate learned some stuff through osmosis from me, and he was shocked at how it affected his relationship. E.g. sexu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 03:31 PM |
| 12 | Some of the blue pill gaslighting that doesn't exist.And what about all the kids growing up who never thought to Google "does height matter"? Personally I was always just taught that girls were attracted to kindness, politeness, sweetness... all the things I already had. Was I successful with chicks growing up? Nope. What was I told by adults? "You'll find the right girl one day, you're husband material" lol. When did I finally get laid? When my brother told me girls are attracted to almost-delusional confidence, and I tried out flirting with girl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIf you wanna chat feel free to DM me man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 03:42 AM |
| 15 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSo I was away from this sub for the last few months, just doing my own thing, new job, relationship, etc. Come back and I've noticed a few things Some familiar names still around and posting all the time - not sure whether to be proud of your tenacity or concerned for your sanity. Jk Lilith doesn't seem to be around anymore... or is she now aliasing as the swoldier dude who keeps posting threads trying to debunk TRP? 🧐 Sadly seeing a lot more blackpillers these days (even on youtube they seem to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Getting sucked into RedPill content distorts your perception of realityIt's a little of both - it makes sense that people unhappy with their dating lives would be drawn to the red pill and that those same people would also be drawn to the negativity in these dating coaches. But most people in general in the world are also drawn to negativity and drama. E.g. the Kardashians are more popular than the History channel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/21 02:06 PM |
| 13 | Getting sucked into RedPill content distorts your perception of realityKevin Samuels, Rich Cooper, Donovan Sharpe, Fresh and Fit. Ughhhhh these guys are HORRIBLE teachers of red pill. It's sad that they're who you think of. But drama and negativity sells I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/21 02:40 AM |
| 1 | Study: Authenticity predicts high relationship satisfaction, except for people high in trait (DT) psychopathy.Are you denying that confidence is attractive and most Nice Guys lack it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/21 08:00 PM |
| 8 | Study: Authenticity predicts high relationship satisfaction, except for people high in trait (DT) psychopathy.Just look around the sub, a lot of ussers (usually men) say that improving one self is useless unless you have perfect bone structure, are tall, or whatever. Those are called incels and they don't even properly belong on this sub (see Rule 11). TRP is all about improving yourself. there are plenty of people here that become angry when someone points out that no one owes them sex. Well yeah, if your response to someone saying "I'm sad and lonely because nobody wants to have sex with me" is "nobod… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/21 07:54 PM |
| -1 | Study: Authenticity predicts high relationship satisfaction, except for people high in trait (DT) psychopathy.We see this a lot with Nice Guys(TM)/TRP/incls who claim the "blue pill" advice of "just be yourself bro" didn't work for them. This may be one reason why: being authentic doesn't work if your authentic self is antisocial. Lol no, it doesn't work because there are concrete traits girls are attracted to (masculinity, confidence, dominance) that many Nice Guys(TM) don't by default have as part of their personalities. It's not that they're antisocial or psychopathic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/21 07:43 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Michael's Story proves all the negative stereotypes people have about TRPersIn order to deal with her without being exploited, Michael must stop whining and learn to turn off his. I disagree. You can prevent yourself from being exploited without turning off your empathy. Having boundaries and being on the lookout for people using you, is not mutually exclusive with having empathy for others. This is your way of sugar-coating game No, it's my way of describing one form of game that doesn't involve fucking and chucking chicks out of spite. You can fuck chicks without dece… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/21 05:57 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Michael's Story proves all the negative stereotypes people have about TRPersI never used the word "should" myself. I'm saying I find whisper's first suggestion of what to do, to be strange. I think there are simpler and more effective strategies Michael could take that would be better for his mental health. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/21 05:39 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Michael's Story proves all the negative stereotypes people have about TRPersIMO minimal effort would involve not being so bitter that you turn off your empathy and start being okay with deceiving and blocking chicks. That takes effort and baggage. Again he could do it, but it just seems like a strange first example of something he could do after reading his story, when to me the simpler and more enjoyable thing is "learn game and have mutually enjoyable relationships with chicks", not "learn to narcissistically deceive chicks, fuck them, then block them". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/21 03:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Michael's Story proves all the negative stereotypes people have about TRPersAnd thus it is perfectly possible for him to display narcissistic levels of deception in order to get sex, then block her phone number. Sure that's possible, but it seems bitter and less ideal than just learning game and being happy without needing to deceive or ghost chicks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/21 06:19 AM |
| 22 | What We Saw In Afghanistan Today is Proof That Men Don’t Even Protect Submissive WomenI think it's rare women (or men even, outside of war) are killed at all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/21 05:37 AM |
| 20 | What We Saw In Afghanistan Today is Proof That Men Don’t Even Protect Submissive WomenInteresting. I would guess we have the bias and that male violence against women is the exception (and when it happens, I don't think we're not shocked, I think we feel really bad for the woman and condemn the man). Here's a quick link I found from a google search right now: https://www.thejournal.ie/more-likely-to-protect-women-2812888-Jun2016/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/21 05:09 AM |
| 37 | What We Saw In Afghanistan Today is Proof That Men Don’t Even Protect Submissive WomenDo you not think society has a bias towards protecting women and children more than men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/21 04:34 AM |
| 10 | What We Saw In Afghanistan Today is Proof That Men Don’t Even Protect Submissive WomenWhere's the optimistic nihilism :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/21 04:20 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Michael's Story proves all the negative stereotypes people have about TRPersLike I said in my comment above, if he didn’t like partying, drinking, drug use, why did he associate and spend so much energy on these people? Well again it sounds like he was living in a dorm where he was surrounded by parties. Yea it was definitely racist of him to say the "even black guys" thing. But it's still inaccurate to say that he didn't get laid because he was a loser, which was the main thing I disagreed with OP on. Sorry but I can’t relate to racists You don't have to relate to some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/21 06:35 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Michael's Story proves all the negative stereotypes people have about TRPersIdk, sounds like he was living in a dorm and there were no conservative girls around him. I agree he maybe could've searched out for clubs with conservative girls, maybe that would've worked (or maybe not), but we can still feel empathy for his situation of feeling out of place (and not being able to meet girls who wanted something serious) instead of just saying he was a loser. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/21 04:14 PM |
| 11 | CMV: Michael's Story proves all the negative stereotypes people have about TRPersWhy exactly is this story required reading for TRP? I don't know, I never resonated with it. I don't think it should be in the TRP sidebar, it reeks of victim mindset and takes away from the actually valuable information there. As for the story though, as much as I don't resonate with Michael, I also don't resonate with a lot of your harsh criticism of him. You boil his story down to "his personality was too negative and condescending to get laid" when in reality, the issue was his desires didn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/21 03:34 PM |
| 10 | Men would make the exact same decisions they shame women forThe average woman is above the average man. Do you mean in practice (e.g. on dating apps, 20% of men get 80% of the swipes or whatever the statistic is), or objectively (i.e. the average woman is healthier / more in shape / more intelligent / has a more symmetrical face / etc than the average man)? Sounds like you're saying the latter, which I'd disagree with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/21 03:08 PM |
| 20 | People who inherently view the opposite sex negatively will always have trouble in relationships.At worst it could kill LTRs or LTR opportunities. This is the main point of the OP. It's literally in the title: "... will always have trouble in relationships" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/21 01:17 AM |
| 1 | People who inherently view the opposite sex negatively will always have trouble in relationships.Still not the same as being in a healthy relationship. There are chicks everywhere who can't maintain a healthy relationship, it's not like men are the only ones who ever get lonely. Can a bitter, negative chick get into a relationship? Yes (and she often doesn't show her negative personality too much at the start). Can she maintain it? Often no, the guy has a threshold that she crosses at some point and he ends it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/21 01:16 AM |
| 1 | People Who Advocate For The End Of Monogamy Never Talk About The Downsides Of Its Alternatives, But There Are ManyWhere in the post did OP mention it's polygamy on the woman's side, or that the woman is dating a beta? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/21 12:50 AM |
| 1 | People Who Advocate For The End Of Monogamy Never Talk About The Downsides Of Its Alternatives, But There Are ManyWhat the above post implies is that a beta will always be cheated on because he’s beta. Am I getting that right? And the man she’s cheats on him will will be an alpha? Not sure where you're getting that from. This post is just about polyamory. Not about betas getting cheated on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/21 10:16 PM |
| 1 | People Who Advocate For The End Of Monogamy Never Talk About The Downsides Of Its Alternatives, But There Are ManyAlso RP doesn’t see AF/BB Lol yes it does | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/21 04:05 PM |
| 5 | My Best Friend Says She’s Allowed to Cheat on Her Husband as “Reparations” for Gender InequalityVictim mindset has become encouraged in certain mainstream circles. And when you're repeatedly told you've been victimized your whole life, along with all other people in your demographic, it makes you feel like you have to fight to swing the pendulum the other way, to make things right. My ex said she'd have no issue using guys on Bumble for free dinners, for the same reason as the chick in that Slate article - because it's just making up for gender inequality. Less extreme than cheating, but s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/21 01:30 AM |
| 1 | “Dark Triad traits” include duplicity and propensity for deception. It’s a lot easier to get laid when you lie about being committed.Are you speaking from experience? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 04:14 PM |
| 13 | Trust Women to be WomenHolding a grudge only hurts yourself anyway, forgiveness is a selfishly beneficial thing to do | /r/TheRedPill | 10/05/21 02:21 PM |
| 2 | LTR tries making me jealous. Any good responses?It would depend on my view of her level of experience in live as well as experience with her in a relationship. You are in a better position to know than I. She's very inexperienced, I'm basically her first properly intimate relationship That said, my TRP epitaph reads: IF YOU WERE MAINTAINING SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH MULTIPLE WOMEN, NONE OF THIS WOULD MATTER. So there's that. Would it not still matter though? An individual girl in your harem could still do something annoying or retarded and yo… | /r/askTRP | 02/05/21 12:55 PM |
| 0 | LTR tries making me jealous. Any good responses?Similarly today actually my girl sent me a picture of her hugging her ex that she found. I figured she was trying to make me jealous (she knows I've been less into her lately and I'm also moving cities very soon) but it's also plausible that she was just narrating her life and just oblivious to the fact that you generally shouldn't send pictures like that to someone you're dating. I asked her why she sent it and her explanation was basically "oh I just didn't know I had any pictures with him, I … | /r/askTRP | 02/05/21 05:11 AM |
| 3 | r/dating is mostly male, but r/datingoverthirty is mostly female. Why?What do you think is the reason men's SMV goes up after 30? Career success or just looking more mature/manly or...? I'm mid 20s and skeptical of this TRP claim but definitely would be happy for my SMV to just keep going up, I'm currently just improving it through career + fashion + physique | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/21 04:56 AM |
| 1 | What is purple pills view on a young woman who is not promiscuous and doesn't want a promiscuous man?Have you tried online dating apps like Hinge | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/21 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Dating Advice For MenWhere did I pretended OP said that? ... When you said you don't get results when you do what OP says to do. And then proceeded to talk about how calling women beautiful doesn't work but saying you don't like their hair works. With covid, the curfew, the rigged dating apps, and everything closed? 0 :D Exactly my point, you get 0 results when you put 0 effort. Girls don't just fall in your lap as you sit at home eating pizza and playing games because you're too cool to put in effort. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/04/21 11:36 PM |
| 2 | Dating Advice For MenFeel free to share stories / stats of putting in zero effort and getting laid a bunch. Do you also not lift? | /r/TheRedPill | 26/04/21 08:26 PM |
| 8 | Following the advice of 99% of people will get you the same mediocre results as the 99%. Lift LIGHT weights, if you want to look good.I’m 5’10” 190 and leaner You on gear? Those are pretty insane stats, that's a fuckload of muscle if you're actually 190 lean | /r/TheRedPill | 26/04/21 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Dating Advice For MenWhen did OP say to tell women they're beautiful? He just said to take the lead, which btw you're still doing when you open chicks by negging them like you describe. Would love to hear how many girls you've fucked in the last year by ignoring them. Or by telling them you don't like their hair color. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/04/21 08:05 PM |
| 2 | Dating Advice For MenDoing much better when I adapted an abundance mindset and stopped chasing women. I'm not annoyed with the guy for being a newbie, I'm annoyed with him posting bullshit instead of reading sidebar. Stats? Number of women fucked in the last year? Do you lift or is that too much effort as well? There's a difference between "chasing women" vs being the initiator ("be the one to take the lead" as OP put it). | /r/TheRedPill | 26/04/21 07:58 PM |
| 6 | Dating Advice For MenHow is putting in zero effort going for you | /r/TheRedPill | 26/04/21 06:00 PM |
| 3 | Why Don't You All Go MGTOWSo you choose not to have sex with attractive women anymore? Why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 02:21 PM |
| 2 | Is There an Own-Race Preference in Attractiveness? - Darren Burke, Caroline Nolan, William Gordon Hayward, Robert Russell, Danielle Sulikowski, 2013I left that out on purpose lol, minimize doxxing | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/04/21 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Ironically, it’s men who have low opinions of short men and good men, not women.Oh cool, you're back with your condescending comments, although you stopped responding to that thread a while back when I showed Rian stone who apparently is a "veteran of the game and fucks not only his wife but girls like mine" actually has an ugly wife who I wouldn't consider fucking lol. I also saw a short clip of him talking about what it's like when his wife doesn't fuck him. It's pretty sad. Anyway, it's not an assumption to say "not necessarily X". It's actually the negation of the assum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/21 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Don't Waste Your Time Showing Any Women Logic.Feel free to explain how OP is actually saying something substantial under your interpretation | /r/TheRedPill | 16/04/21 04:57 PM |
| 5 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardAnd here I am just trying to find a guy who doesn’t want to have sex till later in the relationship You two should 👉👈 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 03:25 PM |
| 3 | Don't Waste Your Time Showing Any Women Logic.This lol. So much scarcity in this post | /r/TheRedPill | 16/04/21 03:14 PM |
| -1 | Don't Waste Your Time Showing Any Women Logic.Speaking of hamsters... God damn. "He's not actually talking about women when he says women can't understand logic, let's just invent a truism that 'women' is a shorthand for 'femininity' which involves lack of logic, and both men and women can be feminine and lack logic, so that OP is no longer a bitter retard" So OP is just saying "people who lack logic lack logic" | /r/TheRedPill | 16/04/21 03:09 PM |
| 2 | We live in a world where simps allow their girlfriends to spread their cheeks on Onlyfans while they cry silently. People pleasing robs men of their personal power. It kills them from the inside out like a vicious cancer. Here is what to do about it.Edit: But, I’m just a dude, not a pimp. Though, I can similarly apply it to my life by looking at as, again, a matter of the value she’s adding to my life. Maybe I'm just taking for granted how obvious the statement is to me then. Maybe others here need this reminder. Yeah I don't keep people in my life that don't add value to my life But also yea in the context of this thread (dating girls with onlyfans) your original quote sounded like warning against dating a girl who isn't fucking you and ha… | /r/TheRedPill | 14/04/21 01:07 AM |
| 2 | We live in a world where simps allow their girlfriends to spread their cheeks on Onlyfans while they cry silently. People pleasing robs men of their personal power. It kills them from the inside out like a vicious cancer. Here is what to do about it.Still a strange quote to me. Why would a pimp be dealing with a prostitute who's not fucking or paying him? | /r/TheRedPill | 13/04/21 11:35 PM |
| 2 | AMS: Leveling Up Won't Solve All Your problemsI remember when I first got into pick up. At that point I had already started going to the gym so I was getting into shape, but I wasn't where I was at my peak (by 2018 I was at 10% body fat) and I still got dates. Not as much as I did when I lost weight, but still. A big part of it was I just straight up played the numbers game. I would go out everyday to the mall or wherever and chase ass. Yeah I feel this. I'm much leaner now than I was 2 years ago, and it probably makes a difference, but the… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/04/21 10:32 PM |
| 7 | Is There an Own-Race Preference in Attractiveness? - Darren Burke, Caroline Nolan, William Gordon Hayward, Robert Russell, Danielle Sulikowski, 2013Yeah. Although the city I grew up in had both a lot of white people and east Asian people, and I still don't find east Asian girls very attractive at all except for an even tinier minority of them. Off the top of my head I can only think of one Chinese girl and one Japanese girl I've found attractive. | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/04/21 05:29 PM |
| 11 | Is There an Own-Race Preference in Attractiveness? - Darren Burke, Caroline Nolan, William Gordon Hayward, Robert Russell, Danielle Sulikowski, 2013Funnily enough, I used to not be attracted to my own race as a kid until I met a girl of my race in high school who I found attractive. And now my race is one of my top preferences. Although tbh I think it's that I legitimately find a lot of my girls of my race unattractive, and it's just a minority of them that do fit my preferences (and then I do feel a particular chemistry with them). If I think back to the girls I grew up with, I still find them unattractive. | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/04/21 05:06 PM |
| 25 | Is There an Own-Race Preference in Attractiveness? - Darren Burke, Caroline Nolan, William Gordon Hayward, Robert Russell, Danielle Sulikowski, 2013Are you sexist if you're not bisexual? | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/04/21 05:00 PM |
| 3 | Why is a man’s biological desire towards women seen as “objectifying” aside from it just being harmless sexual attraction?That's cool, I skimmed your profile right now and it seems like a big part of your view on that is that things like presence/game/frame are big attraction triggers for women, and things like presence/femininity/agreeableness/cutesiness are big attraction triggers for men. And are often overlooked | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/21 04:11 PM |
| 1 | Most people have real friendships. Shitty women have fake friends. Shitty men have no friends.there's alot of communicating there's alot of emotional support alot less of the touchy-feely stuff alot less women alot of theories That's alot of alots (context) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/21 03:55 PM |
| 3 | Most people have real friendships. Shitty women have fake friends. Shitty men have no friends.In her post 4 days ago the study she provided literally proved her own point wrong and she still stuck to her guns, ignored the debunking of her logic, and ended with "your point is a mean thing to say" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/21 03:52 PM |
| 2 | Why is a man’s biological desire towards women seen as “objectifying” aside from it just being harmless sexual attraction?Curious what your flair represents | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/21 03:04 PM |
| 4 | We live in a world where simps allow their girlfriends to spread their cheeks on Onlyfans while they cry silently. People pleasing robs men of their personal power. It kills them from the inside out like a vicious cancer. Here is what to do about it.Wait what? Who would be in a relationship with an onlyfans girl who's not fucking them? I can only imagine the absolute simpiest of dudes doing that, like guys who have online relationships with egirls... Does there really need to be a rhyming quote for that situation lmfao? | /r/TheRedPill | 13/04/21 02:44 PM |
| 6 | Why BDSM Works So Well With Womensex god method by daniel rose | /r/TheRedPill | 12/04/21 04:29 PM |
| 15 | Why is a man’s biological desire towards women seen as “objectifying” aside from it just being harmless sexual attraction?Your rationality turns me on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/21 02:31 AM |
| 1 | Ladies build your perfect guy:)) both changed my life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 06:33 AM |
| 1 | Ladies build your perfect guyNo, I was talking generally. Okay but then it's irrelevant to my comments since I didn't just bring it up out of nowhere. And the person I was talking to seemed to have no issue with our conversation or to "like me less or not at all". You just came in and called me annoying for engaging in a very relevant thread. I don't disagree, all I'm saying is, that it's not effective. No harm in trying. You can say it's not effective to discuss environmentalism or homophobia, but it's better to try than t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:23 AM |
| 1 | Ironically, it’s men who have low opinions of short men and good men, not women.What's your point? That information is what my whole comment was about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:15 AM |
| 0 | Ladies build your perfect guyBut randomly injecting a speach about veganism into a regular conversation is not useful. Is that what I did? Or did I reply to a very specific thread from a girl whose ideal partner isn't vegan but she says she thinks vegans are right, it's just too difficult for her to be vegan? Sounds pretty relevant to me, not just a random injection into a regular conversation. It's kinda pathetic to compare yourself to lititeral racists to rant about people not wanting to hear your unwanted opinion. I didn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:04 AM |
| 2 | Ladies build your perfect guyI wouldn't refuse to eat something just because its vegan, I would ask whats in it and chances are that I probably will hear something I don't like Yea fair enough, my main concern was just the idea of writing off vegan food when it sounds like you see the value in it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Ladies build your perfect guyLol every girl I've dated has gone vegetarian or vegan once they saw how much easier and enjoyable it was to be vegan than they previously thought (one of them literally told me on our first date she'd never date a vegan, without realizing I was vegan, and by the end of our relationship she was vegan). I don't think there's anything wrong with civilly challenging negative perspectives of a diet especially when it has a huge impact on the world and can improve people's lives. And this is an impor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Ladies build your perfect guyI tried vegan cheese before, I know people who are allergic to milk, they said it was a good vegan cheese, I thought it tasted bad. If you can't name the cheese and just tried one before though can you really say you don't like vegan cheese in general? It's like if you said you don't like meat at all because you (as you say) don't really like burgers, only difference here is you know you like other types of meat because you've tried them. Just saying it's good to keep an open mind. There are soo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Ladies build your perfect guyI know whats in the food i eat, its very far from mostly vegan, there is a LOT of dairy products in it. Even when eating pasta and tomato sauce, I will put cheese on top, so thats no longer vegan That's what I mean through, it's just one non vegan ingredient there - cheese. The bulk of the meal is vegan. And there are good vegan cheeses out there e.g. Chao is awesome (don't try Daiya, it sucks) I don't even like the scrambles eggs that come from power, they're weird. I never tried scrambled tofu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Ladies build your perfect guynor will I try to make any vegan food FWIW most of the food you eat is probably vegan (animal products are only a select few food items - meat, eggs, dairy), and it's not too difficult to slowly find replacements you'll still enjoy for the animal products you do still eat. E.g. scrambled tofu instead of scrambled eggs, soy milk in cereal instead of cow's milk, beyond meat burger instead of beef burger, etc. Just thought I'd mention since it sounds like you do see the value in eating more vegan f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Ironically, it’s men who have low opinions of short men and good men, not women.Nice argument | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 12:38 AM |
| 3 | Ironically, it’s men who have low opinions of short men and good men, not women.It's not rude lol, you're just not recognizing basic facts about the dating world. Fat people are more likely to date other fat people than people with six packs. Mila Kunis isn't dating Danny DeVito. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 12:02 AM |
| 7 | Ironically, it’s men who have low opinions of short men and good men, not women.Thank you for ignoring the validity of the point that people generally date/fuck their looksmatches (within a range / margin of error), and that N count doesn't dictate how attractive someone is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 11:03 PM |
| 9 | Ironically, it’s men who have low opinions of short men and good men, not women.They all got the same level of pussy until the guy was shorter than the average woman. Same quantity. Not necessarily same level of attractiveness. Again, just because a fat girl has fucked 50 ugly guys, doesn't mean she's as attractive as Mila Kunis. N count is not a direct metric for SMV. I'd honestly prefer 5'7 over 6'2. 6'2 is way too tall for me. Most women aren't height queens. Interesting lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 09:38 PM |
| 10 | Ironically, it’s men who have low opinions of short men and good men, not women.That's like asking "where are all these men who give that many fucks about weight". It's just an in-wired part of our brain that assesses attractiveness in a man/woman. Can chubby women still find boyfriends and love? Absolutely. Is this girl as attractive on the right as she is on the left? Most people would say no, she's hotter when she's not fat. I'm not saying short guys can't get girlfriends, can't find love, can't get laid, etc. But height is definitely a factor in a guy's attractiveness. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 09:26 PM |
| 16 | Ironically, it’s men who have low opinions of short men and good men, not women.You cited a study as if it's proof that short men aren't less attractive than taller men, simply because their N counts are similar. I'm pointing out how your logic is flawed and your study doesn't prove your point. Sincere question: Do you really think a 5'7 man isn't less attractive than a 6'2 man, all other things being equal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 09:04 PM |
| 12 | Ironically, it’s men who have low opinions of short men and good men, not women.What? How? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 08:54 PM |
| 31 | Ironically, it’s men who have low opinions of short men and good men, not women.From your study's abstract: The results for men suggested limited variation in reported sex partner number across most of the height continuum, but that very short men report fewer partners than other men. So.... very short men do report fewer partners. On top of that, the study doesn't take into account attractiveness of sexual partners. It's not like less attractive people never get laid. N count on its own is not a direct representative of attractiveness. Fat women are lower SMV than healthy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 08:35 PM |
| 3 | Which pill explains what I noticed on datingoverthirty?I think there's good reason to believe humans are non-monogamous or serial-monogamist by nature, and thus most relationships are destined to end because the "spark" fades, eyes wander, the "7 year itch" hits, etc. You can say relationships "should" eventually be permanent, but that doesn't seem to correspond to reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 06:59 PM |
| 3 | Health markers have no correlation with mating success...another heavy blow to the good genes hypothesisBeing mostly red pilled myself I'd agree looks + behavior both matter a lot. Although even from the bluepilled perspective behavior matters, just not in the context of "game" which I think also makes a difference. Not sure what you mean by "variance in the short term". Or if you just mean "20% variance" and that this is all in the context of short term mating. Either way I'm surprised at your answer because it doesn't seem to align with your previous posts or any studies you've shown. E.g. you p… | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/04/21 02:36 PM |
| 5 | Health markers have no correlation with mating success...another heavy blow to the good genes hypothesisI was asking OP because he keeps posting studies with a clear agenda to disprove that things like height make a difference to mating success. I'm not sure if his view is that everyone is on the same level or something, but he clearly seems to have a certain viewpoint he's trying to argue for with his studies. | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/04/21 01:44 PM |
| 5 | You Aren't Ready For A LTR...yet.There's a difference between the snapshots of female nature you can learn from casual sex vs LTRs. There's a Venn diagram of stuff you learn from each (with some overlap) but unique stuff in both categories. E.g. you can learn a lot about nuanced conflict management in an LTR vs not so much with plates. And you can learn more about fuckboy game with plates that wouldn't be fully healthy in an LTR, even if aspects of it (e.g. sexual confidence, a level of IDGAF, etc) can still be relevant in an L… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/04/21 04:11 PM |
| 5 | Health markers have no correlation with mating success...another heavy blow to the good genes hypothesisOk dude what exactly do you think matters when it comes to mating success? | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/04/21 06:48 AM |
| 13 | Why does this sub give better dating advice then dating advice subs?Because everyone here is at the very least aware of TRP and what it teaches, and under a reasonable critical eye (male or female), a lot of those teachings are very practical and relevant to dating success. Most of the bluepillers on this sub would probably still agree that men seeking to improve their dating lives could benefit lots from lifting weights and improving their physique, which is a main teaching of TRP. Their views on TRP seem to be more along the lines of things like "TRP is right … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/21 09:47 PM |
| 2 | Height exerts a real, but weak, effect on actual pairings --- data from thousands of parents with children born in 2000The study is about height’s correlation with relationships. He said the study is flawed because relationships aren’t based on raw sexual attraction (this is the assumption he’s making about a significant % of relationships are women settling). He never said settling. I do disagree with his wording of saying sexual attraction isn't the goal in relationships. I do think sexual attraction is deeply involved in both relationships and hookups. But if we modify his statement to be that sexual attracti… | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/04/21 03:17 AM |
| 4 | Height exerts a real, but weak, effect on actual pairings --- data from thousands of parents with children born in 2000Please support your conjectures with actual empirical reality. Thanks. I did, and all you did was post other studies in reply (without making any comments on the study I linked) and then you made a flippant "^ not science" comment to my extensive criticisms of your conclusions. From the study I linked: Taller males (larger SDS) were preferred more often when women were in the follicular (i.e. fertile) phase of their menstrual cycle and when the partners were chosen for short-term relationships. … | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/04/21 03:05 AM |
| 8 | Height exerts a real, but weak, effect on actual pairings --- data from thousands of parents with children born in 2000You're not a fan of using critical thinking to reason about scientific studies? And meanwhile your misinterpreting the studies you linked is still science? Lol | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/04/21 01:00 AM |
| 8 | Height exerts a real, but weak, effect on actual pairings --- data from thousands of parents with children born in 2000Your second study doesn't dismantle the cycle theory: Consistent with the hypothesis, analyses revealed robust cycle shifts that were specific to women's preferences for hypothesized cues of (ancestral) genetic quality (96 effects in 50 studies). Cycle shifts were present when women evaluated men's "short-term" attractiveness and absent when women evaluated men's "long-term" attractiveness. The study after that on height has a couple issues when it comes to your conclusion. One, there was indeed… | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/04/21 12:46 AM |
| 3 | Height exerts a real, but weak, effect on actual pairings --- data from thousands of parents with children born in 2000most women settled. No, you're misinterpreting his words and strawmanning him. He essentially said that sexual attraction is not as much of a goal for women in relationships as it is for women in casual sex encounters, and that height might play more of a role in casual sex encounters. And he's correct. | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/04/21 12:16 AM |
| 11 | Height exerts a real, but weak, effect on actual pairings --- data from thousands of parents with children born in 2000Correct - here's a study corroborating your claim: Taller males (larger SDS) were preferred more often when women were in the follicular (i.e. fertile) phase of their menstrual cycle and when the partners were chosen for short-term relationships. These effects were independent of woman's height. The results show that women in a potentially fertile phase of their menstrual cycle and when choosing a partner who might be less likely to invest in children select genes of taller males. | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/04/21 12:10 AM |
| 9 | Height exerts a real, but weak, effect on actual pairings --- data from thousands of parents with children born in 2000Here's a study corroborating his claim: Taller males (larger SDS) were preferred more often when women were in the follicular (i.e. fertile) phase of their menstrual cycle and when the partners were chosen for short-term relationships. These effects were independent of woman's height. The results show that women in a potentially fertile phase of their menstrual cycle and when choosing a partner who might be less likely to invest in children select genes of taller males. | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/04/21 12:09 AM |
| 5 | Height exerts a real, but weak, effect on actual pairings --- data from thousands of parents with children born in 2000His comment didn't say anything like that. He's just saying height probably plays more of a role in who women choose to hook up with, than it plays in who they choose to be in relationships with. That claim makes sense and there are indeed studies showing women are more attracted to masculine features and dominant behaviors in men for short term mating (i.e. hookups), which would add indirect reason to believe his claim is correct that height plays a larger role in short term mating preferences … | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/04/21 12:03 AM |
| 7 | Height exerts a real, but weak, effect on actual pairings --- data from thousands of parents with children born in 2000When did they say height was the only variable in sexual attraction? | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/03/21 11:45 PM |
| 19 | There is no implied social contract. Don’t do things you don’t want to do, and don’t expect anything in return.There's always an implied social contract. And most of the terms would be ridiculous / socially weird to say out loud. E.g. a friend asks for a favor (like you're grocery shopping together and they forgot their wallet so you pay for them). You do it under the implied assumption that they would do the same for you if you needed. It'd be weird / rude to say that out loud as you pay for them, but if the time came for them to do the same favor for you later on and they didn't, you'd rightfully feel … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 03:24 PM |
| 2 | Observations on Oneitis and Jungian ArchetypesYou're missing my point. I'm not just appealing to authority through blackdragon. My point is that oneitis is simply an evolved biological phenomenon for men to commit to women they like. We don't need to go into fancy Jungian archetypes to understand that we evolved to pair bond. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/03/21 02:03 AM |
| 4 | Redpill is the fastest way to scare women away.Lol wtf kind of "tactics" did you try to use on her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/21 06:04 PM |
| 2 | Observations on Oneitis and Jungian ArchetypesIt's simpler than that lol. From this post by a dude named Franco: FALLING IN LOVE Falling in love is an organic (biological) psychosis the purpose of which is to keep two individuals long enough together to guarantee pregnancy to happen and the care of the child long enough for the child to survive. (Which I found from this excellent post by Blackdragon) It's just biology. Don't stress so much. | /r/TheRedPill | 27/03/21 05:48 PM |
| 1 | What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough."There are levels of choice but it's easily arguable that once someone makes a choice, they didn't actually choose to make that choice. They didn't choose to want it enough to choose it. Like a drug addict who keeps choosing to buy heroin. I'd enjoy heroin myself, and I don't use it, but I also didn't choose to currently be wired with a brain that has enough control to choose not to use it. A drug addict didn't choose to be wired with a brain that originally thought it was a good idea to try hero… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/21 05:07 PM |
| 1 | What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough."Rather they are just 'this issue has now affected me personally and I don't want to deal with the emotions'. Has nothing to do with me feeling bad for my friend | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/21 03:29 PM |
| 1 | What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough."I have sympathy for people who get screwed beyond their own control It wasn't in her control to have been attracted to guys who weren't good for her. If it were in her control, she wouldn't choose to want to date guys who weren't good for her happiness. She didn't choose her brain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/21 03:29 PM |
| 4 | What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough."I started out bluepilled and have always been empathetic to everyone even along my red pill journey. I also find it easy to see how everyone has problems of their own, no matter how many MGTOWs look at women with envy. My first girlfriend and I stayed friends after we broke up and cared lots about each other. She later went on to be sex addicted, and date/fuck a lot of guys she knew weren't "good" for her, including a guy she met on Tinder who already had a girlfriend (and my friend kept dating … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/21 05:52 PM |
| 3 | Why "rp is just a toolbox" seems to fails to defeat any moralizing argument.You're entitled to whatever moral beliefs you have. The "no moralizing" rule just means that moralizing doesn't belong on the TRP sub. It's not meant to defeat moralizing arguments. It's just a rule. And yes, RP strategies are just tools in a toolbox. One can acknowledge that negging often works without needing to engage in it. Some TRPers choose to engage in things I choose not to, and vice versa. It's convenient to have TRP as a place where we can discuss a bunch of tools and then choose which… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/21 06:59 PM |
| 1 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.You too, random person who doesn't know what the word "playfully" means and can't see nuance in flirting/dating dynamics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/21 02:37 PM |
| 2 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.Of course, but the way it was worded kind of stated otherwise. Not fully, e.g.: Because of this, evolution by selection has programmed our sexual psychology to have a very firm brake pedal that makes it difficult for women to talk themselves into having sex they don’t want to have, even when they wish they wanted to have it. Which talks about women preventing themselves from having sex with a subpar man. The only part that puts more of a "preventing rape" spin on it was this sentence: Having a p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 10:34 PM |
| 1 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.Did that trigger you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 08:50 PM |
| 5 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.Right, plus if we're going to play the evo psych game shouldn't she want to mate like a rabbit, because genes? No, because women have a limited number of pregnancies so they evolved to be picky about who they fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Which opinions do you hold that would be considered unpopular or controversial even on PPD?This is reasonable, but can't be falsified, which is my point. Fair enough. But I don't think anyone's arguing TRP or evo-psych is a hard science with falsifiable claims. TRP in itself is a bunch of guys pooling together data points (largely from in-person experience, collectively) and coming up with reasonable conclusions that are useful for dating. E.g. that women like confidence isn't falsifiable but it's a pretty common pattern that's useful for men to know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 05:17 PM |
| 4 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.I'm not condoning rape in the slightest, but the idea that women from thousands of years ago were simply saying no, like this would even work, and this got implanted in women's brains as a go to subconscious mechanism to avoid unwanted apprentices is just a tad far fetched. It doesn't have to be that "saying no" prevented rape, it could just be that girls evolved to care a lot about who they had sex with, and "saying no" would indeed prevent sex with a sub-par guy who respected her "no". As an e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Which opinions do you hold that would be considered unpopular or controversial even on PPD?it is, it isn't my view it is the scientific consensus around evolution. Source? natural selection isn't a random process in the statistical meaning since it is actively related to reproductive fitness Exactly. If you agree with this then I'm not exactly sure what your point is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Which opinions do you hold that would be considered unpopular or controversial even on PPD?There is no "pursuit" per se, because evolution is not a conscious being, but natural selection is not a random process. You're discounting viewing any traits within the context of evolution / natural selection, and pretending your view is scientific, when it's not at all. It's not random that a child born without functioning lungs will die and not pass on his genes. It's not random that most humans are born with functioning lungs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 04:40 PM |
| 1 | Which opinions do you hold that would be considered unpopular or controversial even on PPD?feeling hunger is an accidental trait, it appeared in our common ancestors accidentally The origin was accidental, sure, because all genes are originally random mutations. But the fact that hunger is now universal and keeps us feeding ourselves and surviving is not accidental. The mammals that didn't eat died out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 04:25 PM |
| 6 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.I couldn't have this happen to my body, I cried, tried to run away and resisted with every part of me. I mean, that's rape. I know now that they are two very different things, and any partner with decency and empathy would stop and not hurt me. My partner was just a rapist. Yeah. There's a big difference between the two for sure. One thing to seduce your partner when she's not originally feeling it, or even to playfully push past resistance. Another thing entirely to fuck her while she's crying … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 03:31 PM |
| 1 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.Yes. Again, I'm not talking about the average married chump who isn't attractive enough for his wife to want to fuck him more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 02:37 PM |
| 1 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.Yeah because it's rare for guys to be attractive enough for that to be the case. But it's a spectrum, and saying girls only want sex a few days a month is on the other side of that spectrum and is ridiculously sad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 02:32 PM |
| 5 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.If someone anally raped me in my sleep it would have less to do with low status, and more to do with feeling like my body was violated, feeling "gross" about it, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Which opinions do you hold that would be considered unpopular or controversial even on PPD?It's not always true (see my next comment, I agree with you), but it often is. We need context and critical (or at worst intuitive) reasoning. Would you argue we can't view human hunger as an evolutionary adaptation to help us survive by getting us to eat food? Is that just an accidental trait? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 02:08 PM |
| 0 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.In general, yes, but if a girl is sufficiently attracted to a guy, she won't only want to fuck him "a few days a month when their fertilization is optimal". She will want to fuck him every day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 02:06 PM |
| 21 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.Yup that'd be more traumatic, hence why I specified the non-penetrative type of rape. But that's a good point - the fact that maybe anal rape would be similarly traumatic for me might be evidence against what I wrote about pregnancy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 07:15 AM |
| 7 | What kinds of people are you most attracted to?himbos. Lmao... golden retriever, himbos... I love these terms | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 06:56 AM |
| 6 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.That's horrendous. I'm sorry to hear that. Heartbreaking that this all happened to you by a girl you loved enough to marry and presumably you two at some point had a loving, intimate relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 06:54 AM |
| 5 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.And all that's left is shaming and insults when a woman doesn't get her way because she can't use the ol' IQ points or dispute it. I'm not a woman, and I'm not trying to insult you. No offense intended. I'm just pointing out the fact that it sounds like your SMV could use improvement. That's a huge part of TRP. Why would I want casual sex? Because then you don't land in the situation you're describing, where girls aren't attracted enough to you to desire sex with you purely for the sake of havin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 06:52 AM |
| 1 | Relationship advice when a man told his wife she smells funnyWhen you criticized her for not being able to get over it. I'm not trying to have sex with her. What? A shit test from a woman is telling you your dick is smelly? That’s a new one for me. No, but the idea is the same: women like confidence in general, whether it's in reaction to a shit test, or a non-shit test like that. Lol omg. Why do men keep saying this? It isn’t true. My gut is that women are telling men this to soothe their egos after they didn’t cum. Ugh it makes it harder for the rest of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 06:47 AM |
| 6 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.Women don't have sex drives, so they don't like sex. They may get temporary urges a few days a month when their fertilization is optimal, but that's about it. Sounds like you gotta work on your SMV if this is your experience. Women can absolutely enjoy sex WAY more (both in frequency and intensity) than you're describing. If you go the TRP route and learn to have casual sex with women, you'll realize how similar the sex drives can be (and when it's casual sex, you know it has nothing to do with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 06:37 AM |
| 2 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.She killed my dog. Whoa. Elaborate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 06:35 AM |
| 0 | Relationship advice when a man told his wife she smells funnyYou can totally take this approach, but criticizing people for being offended that you criticized their main sex organ isn’t a way to make those people want to have sex with you. Wut. When did anyone, here or in the post, use criticism as a way to make someone want to have sex with them? Maybe this is because men literally have no shame when it comes to making women do things they don’t like, but I’m not surprised it doesn’t bother you if a girl thinks your dick smells weird. I’m sure men don’t … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 06:30 AM |
| 21 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.Men, have you seen evidence of this in your relationships? Not directly, because I don't cross that line with girls (for the reasons in this post). But indirectly? Absolutely. Even the fact alone that girls' desire for sex is much more situation-dependent than men's. Or the fact that rape can be so traumatic for women, when I can't imagine rape (in the form of e.g. a girl riding my cock while I'm asleep without my consent) being comparably traumatic for me. I imagine it has a lot to do with the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 05:15 AM |
| 15 | A scientist explains what men don't understand about dead bedrooms. I think she's right.It's not an excuse, it's an explanation. You really think women out there who don't have sex with their husbands, need to cite random scientists' editorials like this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 05:07 AM |
| 1 | Relationship advice when a man told his wife she smells funnyLOL damn. That's pretty funny. Have things like this happened in previous LTRs of yours? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 04:12 AM |
| 0 | Relationship advice when a man told his wife she smells funnyIt's more like, don't be an illogical idiot and think "I didn't like eating you out at first" means "I'm disgusted by you and you should forever be turned off of having sex with me even if I'm now obsessed with your pussy". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Relationship advice when a man told his wife she smells funnyI know she caught him doing that. What I’m saying is that it sounds like he’s overcompensating or getting off to her being smelly like a fetish, in the same way a man might like smelly feet or scat play. That's clearly not what's happening here though. He used to find her smelly, and then no longer does. It's literally as simple as that, and the female irrationality here is coming into play in her (and your) inability to just look at it simply and logically. He used to find it smelly (not a pers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 01:50 AM |
| 3 | Which opinions do you hold that would be considered unpopular or controversial even on PPD?Human happiness is more complicated than simply feeling "empty inside" from X or Y. You get into a relationship and you have a surge of happiness. Then you go back to baseline, and then you go into a valley of sadness when you have a fight, then you go back to baseline, then you go into a valley of sadness from having problems at work, then you go back to baseline, etc. Easy to look at a general life situation (e.g. being in a relationship vs being single) and think "that looks like a happier li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 01:34 AM |
| 2 | Which opinions do you hold that would be considered unpopular or controversial even on PPD?There are many reasons why traits can be common or universal. For example, some traits like dark features are dominant and are more likely to be passed down from one generation to another. 100%. There are also traits that happen as a side effect of other traits that are selected for, and not because they were inherently advantageous themselves. But that's why we go deeper into analysis and looking for the most likely explanations of traits, rather than simply staying at the surface and saying "t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 01:28 AM |
| 3 | Relationship advice when a man told his wife she smells funnyBruh. She literally caught him jacking off while smelling her panties and you're still under the impression she thinks he's lying about liking her pussy nowadays? ETA: if a guy is recoiling at the taste or smell of my vulva, and doesn’t eat me out because of it, that means he’s disgusted. idk why this is so difficult for you. Have you never liked fucking a guy who you didn't like giving blowjobs to? Why is it so difficult for you to separate not liking the smell of something from overall disgust… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 01:23 AM |
| 2 | Relationship advice when a man told his wife she smells funnyYea the only reason I'd consider it is for the sake of having kids (which is possible without marriage too, but I'd consider marriage if the girl I loved really cared about having kids only within a marriage, and I saw signs that it could be a relatively healthy + reliable marriage). If it weren't for the kids aspect I'd see no reason to get married, you could just indefinitely enjoy being with the person (or move onto others if needed). As for taking my money I think a well thought out prenup c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 12:12 AM |
| 3 | Relationship advice when a man told his wife she smells funnyCool | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 12:06 AM |
| 2 | Relationship advice when a man told his wife she smells funnyHe's clearly not disgusted by her pussy if he enjoys fucking her and he has changed to now want to eat her out and smell her panties. You're still lost in an illusion that he's disgusted by her. And even if he still found her pussy smells, you're still acting unable to separate "I don't like the smell of this" from "I am disgusted by this". I don't put my penis into rotting food, but that dude wanted to put his penis into her even when she smelled funky. If a girl says she doesn't like blowing m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/21 12:05 AM |
| 3 | Relationship advice when a man told his wife she smells funnyHere's the excerpt from the article: When I first met my wife, she was very open sexually and very confident. In one of our early lovemaking sessions, she asked me why I never went down on her. The honest truth was I had never gone down on any woman before and didn’t have an experience with giving oral sex. When I did go down on her the first time, her smell was very foreign and off-putting to me. I told her she didn’t smell so fresh down there and gave that as the reason why I never went down o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 11:00 PM |
| 2 | Which opinions do you hold that would be considered unpopular or controversial even on PPD?Traits, however, are RANDOM mutations that survive as long as they're not detrimental to our survival and aren't highly correlated with traits that are. Sure, they're random mutations to start with, but the ones that end up common or universal are likely common/universal because they were advantageous. Like women being attracted to strong and fit men. Evopsych research not only assumes that all studied traits appear because they were advantageous, but also believes in the existance of traits for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 10:51 PM |
| 3 | Relationship advice when a man told his wife she smells funnyStuff like this makes me even more hesitant to even consider getting married in the future to a girl. Girls tend to be able to get so emotional over stupid things sometimes, and I empathize with them for it, but it also makes relationships seem much more volatile due to these emotions. Yes, a guy should in theory be able to tell his wife (nicely) that she stinks down there, and they can easily fix that surface-level problem together. It's not a big deal. I can't imagine a guy ever getting emotio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 10:22 PM |
| 13 | Which opinions do you hold that would be considered unpopular or controversial even on PPD?Everyone has problems, and Chads aren't necessarily much happier (or any happier) than betas. Incels would be the exception - I think they are legitimately on average much less happy (and often suicidal) than the general population. But in general, humans are wired with relative happiness that depends more on changes in our own life situation than on how "good" or "bad" our life situations are in a more absolute sense. Meditation is the best way to increase one's baseline happiness because it tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 10:09 PM |
| 1 | If you agree that men are polygynous and instinctively desire multiple women, what does that mean for you, personally?I guess having fun and throwing her around was instinctive for me so it’s not something I’ve ever had to really ask (maybe discuss between rounds), so maybe you were starting from a much lower experience. I also knew women weren’t delicate flowers pretty early. Yea sounds like you just started from a more experienced / better-understanding place than I did And my bad, I should've clarified "never worked for me" in there. IME girls tend to not really consciously know what they enjoy, it's somethi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 06:52 PM |
| 1 | If you agree that men are polygynous and instinctively desire multiple women, what does that mean for you, personally?Yeah that's never worked. Psychological aspect was a main thing I was missing - past gfs would hint they wanted me to try being rougher but it took finding TRP and SGM etc to really understand female psychology and how they like dominant alpha men, for me to learn how to properly become more primal in bed, more dominant, etc. A girl won't exactly tell her beta boyfriend "I want you to learn to throw me around and have your way with me" and even if she does, it takes a lot of unwiring of social c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 06:20 PM |
| 5 | Penis size matters as much as height, but only for tall guysWelcome to PPD, land of the strawmen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 05:34 PM |
| 8 | You basically need to be a psychopath to actually close with “hot girls”... Empathy is a turn-offTo be honest this seems like an unnecessarily complicated and unlikely explanation that doesn't account for gender differences in attraction. A guy who doesn't value himself wouldn't turn down a hot girl just because she shows interest. The real explanation is more likely hypergamy - a guy showing less interest indicates he can get better girls which increases his perceived attractiveness (and vice versa - showing more interest shows less of a value gap between the guy and the girl). Social stat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 05:26 PM |
| 1 | If you agree that men are polygynous and instinctively desire multiple women, what does that mean for you, personally?Examples? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 02:55 PM |
| 1 | If you agree that men are polygynous and instinctively desire multiple women, what does that mean for you, personally?It took me years to get good at sex, asking previous gfs what felt good didn't help very much, what did help was reading Sex God Method and learning how to be more dominant in bed, dirty talk, be more primal, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 02:49 AM |
| 1 | If you agree that men are polygynous and instinctively desire multiple women, what does that mean for you, personally?When we claim that men are polygynous, does this mean you are capable of or want multiple committed LTRs where you emotionally and sexually connect with more than one woman, or is the dream to have a main girl who gets your love and commitment and have emotionless sex with side pieces who are there for nothing more than sexual release? Or is pumping and dumping multiple girls in a FWB type situation the dream? None of those necessarily. I'm happy being with one girl if she has enough romantic/se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/21 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone had to tell a plate to not make it obvious they’re fucking other people?Women often communicate covertly, that doesn't mean they're incapable of overt communication lol | /r/askTRP | 02/03/21 03:28 PM |
| 1 | If the only good thing about the relationship is the sex, why bother being in a relationship? Just be fuck buddies.Mid 20s but I don't see how that's relevant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/21 04:11 PM |
| 1 | If the only good thing about the relationship is the sex, why bother being in a relationship? Just be fuck buddies.It's not faking if they genuinely become interested in those things because of me, which they often do. But also that was just my second point - my first point was still that girls do exist out there who have interesting hobbies / personalities / etc in the first place, without my influence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/21 05:25 AM |
| 1 | If the only good thing about the relationship is the sex, why bother being in a relationship? Just be fuck buddies.if you can find such precious women that easily. congrats. and please tell me cause I am not seeing them. It is a question of knowing a handful of them. from the thousands I interacted over the years. It's not something you can really control directly, although the higher SMV you are, the more options you have / the pickier you can be with the women you date. On dating apps most women look boring as fuck, but there are definitely some more interesting girls there / girls who will match your inte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/21 05:14 AM |
| 1 | If the only good thing about the relationship is the sex, why bother being in a relationship? Just be fuck buddies.if you think any group but the minority of the minority of the minority really likes your hobbies or value things the same way as you I never said it's not a minority, it's definitely a minority. I wouldn't date most women. This whole conversation is within the context of women I would be in a relationship with, which is only certain women who happen to have both sexual and personality compatibility with me. That's a minority of the girls I've had sex with, but when those girls do come along, it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/21 08:02 PM |
| 1 | If the only good thing about the relationship is the sex, why bother being in a relationship? Just be fuck buddies.Cause what each sex finds valuable are different and irreconcilable. I do not find any gossip, emotional or social politics almost all women find interesting outside of the objective and realistic results from that. Nor most women find any objective or realistic interests I and you have really valuable unless there is a result in the social sphere for them. Sounds like you have the same problem as this guy: you just haven't found girls you're compatible with yet. I don't date girls who are only … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/21 07:12 PM |
| 1 | If the only good thing about the relationship is the sex, why bother being in a relationship? Just be fuck buddies.time is a resource, energy is a resource, patience is a resource, but so is care, attention and even emotions. there is no end for what it is because resources are all things you spend or has to use to acquire and maintain something in this comtext. All of these things are things you find in a friendship though. Patience isn't an end for me because it doesn't benefit me as much as her, but patience is something to practice in a friendship too (albeit, sure, maybe required more often with a girl … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/21 04:11 PM |
| 1 | If the only good thing about the relationship is the sex, why bother being in a relationship? Just be fuck buddies.Whatever you think of him, he looks way better in the after photo and that's just from wearing better clothes. Bumped up his smv at least a couple points even if he's still not very attractive yet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/21 07:42 AM |
| 1 | If the only good thing about the relationship is the sex, why bother being in a relationship? Just be fuck buddies.I don't really spend more money on a girl in a relationship, I prefer more mutual relationships where e.g. we buy/make each other food in general. Or in the case of my married friend he and his wife both have good salaries and pool it all together. Time and energy sure, but that's an intentional investment where it's actually the end in itself. It's enjoyable to spend time with someone you love | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/21 07:28 AM |
| 1 | If the only good thing about the relationship is the sex, why bother being in a relationship? Just be fuck buddies.Before After (found from this very relevant link) And this is a pretty average looking guy (genetically), with the only change being clothes, and maybe posture. Huge difference in attractiveness. Let alone if he built way more muscle over a number of years. This stuff is far from putting lipstick on a pig. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/21 10:10 PM |
| 7 | If the only good thing about the relationship is the sex, why bother being in a relationship? Just be fuck buddies.Yea I just don't think many men like that exist. The OP was probably misinterpreting when guys here say that sex is necessary for a good relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/21 05:25 PM |
| 51 | If the only good thing about the relationship is the sex, why bother being in a relationship? Just be fuck buddies.Idk about that. I know a lot of guys (myself included) who enjoy an intimate LTR over being fuckbuddies. Romantic connection is something both men and women can enjoy. Same with sex. And both together is typically better than one on its own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/21 05:07 PM |
| 4 | If the only good thing about the relationship is the sex, why bother being in a relationship? Just be fuck buddies.If they waited for sex due to societal norms that's a different thing. I think what /u/XtoDoubt is saying (and what I'd agree with) is that a relationship without sexual chemistry feels... wrong. If you're married to someone who doesn't feel enough chemistry with you to want to fuck you more than once a month, something feels missing - unless there's an extraneous reason for it. I've had a relationship before where the last two months we only had sex a few times, and I was fine with it because w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/21 04:05 PM |
| 0 | Is the juice worth the squeeze?That's a cool perspective - although I disagree with your last sentence, I still think dating is awesome and worth it. But I do like the "pretend you had it yesterday and continue with the rest of your life" mindset | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/21 09:05 AM |
| 13 | Some of the men who complain about dating on here sound like SJWsYou left out the other definition of "privileged": having the rare opportunity to do something that brings particular pleasure. "I felt I had been privileged to compete in such a race" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Are you able to see a girl as a “sex toy” and value her as a person in a relationship context?Yup I can fuck a girl lots and even call her my cumslave, and still respect + love her deeply, been doing that the last few months. I wouldn't worry about it. I agree, sex furthers to solidify bonds | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 06:58 AM |
| 3 | Does your attractiveness-level dictate your self-worth? Or at the very least, is being "sexually desired" a main factor in dictating your happiness?People who receive any sort of interest or are intimate with the opposite sex: Ofcourse not, why do you put so much emphasis on sex or relationship.. you gotta learn to be happy on your own broo The OP's post directly contradicts this - he does decent with women but is well aware of the huge dependency of his happiness on his dating success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/21 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Why Is It Okay to Refuse Giving Head, But You Aren't Okay With Not ReceivingStrawmen like these are so common on this sub (from both BP and RP people, both men and women). If you're gonna claim women here have stated this double standard at least post links to those comments / posts cause I've never seen a single person on this sub saying that they don't have to give blowjobs but men have to eat them out anytime they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/21 08:45 PM |
| 40 | Women need MenDon't be needy - classic red pill concept usually tied with the concept of having an abundance mindset. I've internalized these enough through years of living TRP lifestyle (stumbling my way at first), but if you're having trouble internalizing these, read on. ... Here are some occupations where over 97% of the workforce are men: mechanics, electricians, carpenters, plumbers, ventilation engineers, truck drivers, and construction workers. Lol if a guy is struggling to embrace abundance mentality… | /r/TheRedPill | 20/02/21 06:47 PM |
| 1 | There is no correct way of approaching women without potentially coming off as "CREEPY"I’m not talking about you. Sure, but I am talking about me (and other things I've observed). Like an ex of mine telling me she found a friend of mine "creepy", and the relevant factors were: he once asked her out (before I dated her / was into her) he was less physically attractive than her he was a very nice and trustworthy person (so no real reason to think he was creepy) we all hung out together sometimes (and I was even there when he asked her out); no creepy behavior at all that I observed.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/21 06:06 PM |
| 1 | There is no correct way of approaching women without potentially coming off as "CREEPY"I really doubt that lol. Literally the only main factor in those "creepy" approaches was that I looked embarrassed and unconfident. No reason to think that a nervous 22 y/o boy telling you in a public library that he thinks you're cute and asking if you'd like to hang out sometime is more "dangerous" than the same boy confidently saying the same thing. Girls are pretty good at reading body language and can tell the difference between someone who's unpredictable or mentally-not-right, versus some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/21 05:48 PM |
| 1 | There is no correct way of approaching women without potentially coming off as "CREEPY"The relevant difference is that the black men you're referencing approach in a pretty confident, alpha way, which makes women feel less nervous for some reason. IME, girls look more afraid when I approach nervously than when I approach confidently. They don't only look creeped out in "creepy" situations like dark alleyways - they've looked creeped out when I've nervously and politely asked them out after class. Vs when I've confidently approached on a dark sidewalk or other "creepy" settings, ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/21 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Avocado and eggs photosIs there an analogous Evo psych theory you're trying to make fun of? I legit find most TRP Evo psych theories to seem quite likely as actual explanations of human sexual behaviour, just as much as we can probably explain the human desire for sugary foods through the Evo psych theory that in caveman times the humans who ate the more calorie dense / energy filled sugary foods might have been more likely to be fit and healthy and survive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/21 07:02 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Yeah of course. Soccer players could've had an evolutionary advantage over wrestlers in caveman times. E.g. could've chased down prey over longer stretches, could've had better cardio health, etc. A lot of sexual attraction comes down to evolutionary biology which is what a lot of TRP is about. A lot of romantic attraction comes down to a combination of sexual attraction, and personal compatibility (e.g. you like girls who are intellectual because you connect with them over that, making for a mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/21 07:11 PM |
| 1 | The societal role of mother kills the sex life not the kidYou are dismissing this like it’s a smaller factor than the reality to push forth your belief of: Meh, you could frame it as you dismissing the factor I presented, to push forth your belief that things like stress / hormones are the main factors. End of the day the reality is just that you and I have different views of what the main factor is. But I think it’s less likely the the biggest part of the story especially if the biggest recent change is something like a newborn child. If there was reg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/21 06:57 PM |
| 1 | The societal role of mother kills the sex life not the kidHe would happily have obligation-sex from his wife? Eww, can’t relate. He'd prefer enthusiastic sex, I'm sure, but I'm also sure he'd prefer obligation or ritual sex over complete celibacy. If it was so unenjoyable for her that sex would cross into the rape territory maybe that'd be a different story, but it wouldn't necessarily have to go that far into unenjoyable territory for her. Meh, people can feel unsexy and still have high libidos. I really don't think that's the issue in dead bedrooms. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/21 06:06 PM |
| 5 | How sympathetic are men to women’s loneliness?People aren't a monolith in things like empathy. Personally I do feel bad for women who are lonely. However I also happen to be in a similar boat: I could have many dates with women I deem below my league, but my sexual preferences wouldn't allow me to enjoy being with those women; thus my results with women I'm properly into are, while existent, much more scarce than my total options with women, and I do go through dry spells / unsuccessful relationships / loneliness as well. Incels / MGTOWs / … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/21 06:01 PM |
| 1 | The societal role of mother kills the sex life not the kidSure, but I think there's a deeper / different cause here. He'd be willing to have sex with her even if she just did it out of obligation. The lack of libido isn't simply due to her feeling like he wants to have sex with her out of obligation. I'd wager it's due to a decrease in attraction over the years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/21 05:40 PM |
| 1 | The societal role of mother kills the sex life not the kidHe's clearly not trying to have sex with her just because he "has to" as her husband, when the lack of sex is literally bothering him enough to post on DB. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/21 05:31 PM |
| 2 | [Q4All] Just how successful are your close friends in dating/romance?Male. Most of my friends are bluepilled (i.e. traditional relationships / dating, potentially or actually leading to marriage). I'll describe my four best friends: Married (last year, in his mid 20s) and very successful in my eyes. Naturally an alpha personality with a strong frame, teases his wife playfully back and forth sometimes, and they both have the utmost love and respect for each other with healthy communication. I don't know if they'll stay together forever (I'm not sure if humans are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/21 04:45 PM |
| 2 | What's the point in marriage?I do see your point, but I see the other side too. If you want a certain relationship with a person (be it to be their "friend", their "wife", their "business partner", etc.) but they didn't want to have that label, it's a warning sign that they don't want that kind of relationship. If a guy saw himself being with a woman for life, why wouldn't he want to label it that way by calling himself her husband / calling her his wife? Especially when there may be financial benefits the couple could reap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/21 03:41 PM |
| 1 | What's the point in marriage?Well, like she implied, it'd be a red flag if he wasn't willing to make the verbalized/legal commitment. That'd be a reason not to trust him enough to make a huge long-term risk like having kids, in itself. Even the concept of a relationship itself is like that. If someone didn't want to call you their boyfriend/girlfriend, that in itself would be a reason to think they're not committed to that extent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/21 03:18 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.I don't know about you, but when I jack off to porn (which also isn't often for me either), I jack off to girls I find sexually attractive. When there's a dude in the porno, I imagine myself in his position, fucking the girl I find sexually attractive. I found the PDF of the Chinese study by the way. Check out this excerpt from the discussion of Study 1 on body types: The preferred (mesomorphic and average) male physiques incorporate features, such as a broad chest and narrow waist, which were i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/21 03:06 AM |
| 11 | What's the point in marriage?You shouldn't marry someone that you can live with, marry the one that you can't live without. I like that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 11:28 PM |
| 0 | What's the point in marriage?I'm not her but it's entirely possible they got a pre-nup and all she wanted was the verbalized commitment / intention to stay, plus maybe the raised barrier to exit due to the pain in the ass of going through a divorce, even without a huge financial risk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 11:24 PM |
| 2 | The societal role of mother kills the sex life not the kidThat wouldn't explain all the dead-bedroom type of men who would love to have more active sex lives with their wives, and see their wives as sexual beings, but the wives just aren't interested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 05:38 PM |
| 7 | The societal role of mother kills the sex life not the kidPurely anecdotal, so I'll admit this isn't the strongest argument here, but it seems to be an extremely common phenomena in the PUA community that mothers/wives can be some of the easiest women to have sex with. I'd be skeptical if the main reason for loss of arousal was stress / fatigue. Adults of all ages (college kids to middle aged women) can have stressful lives but that doesn't stop them from having libidos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 05:03 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.But it's irrelevant what I'm sexually attracted, because it doesn't really come out until I'm romantically attracted to someone. Lol perfect, you're finally acknowledging there's a difference between sexual and romantic attraction. I don't see how this is much different than what the typical woman does. It's not very different indeed. Remember, this whole time I've been saying that sexual vs romantic attraction (which you could also frame as being directly related to alpha vs beta traits, depend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.This is like saying bodybuilders aren't wired to enjoy sugar because they avoid eating cake. Avoiding something doesn't mean you're not wired to enjoy it. The fact that you jack off to porn stars purely on the basis of their looks (and you don't jack off to poetry readings) says a lot and I'm not sure how you don't see that. Same with women reading erotica, it says a lot about their sexuality. If you want to know what someone's sexually attracted to, versus what they're romantically attracted to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/21 02:11 PM |
| -1 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?Of course they are, a past gf did that with me back in my BP days, except in this case this girl explicitly doesn't want a relationship so that's not what she's doing And god damn all you MRP guys are SO cool, calling other dudes on the internet faggots and bitches and idiots. You're so smart and cool, man. Really just adds to your argument so well. | /r/askMRP | 16/02/21 01:07 AM |
| -2 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?Lol ok man, sounds like you don't get it if you don't realize that casual sex is the epitome of "alpha". Alpha is literally defined as what's attractive to women in a short-term mating context. Alpha = sexual attraction / good genes / etc, beta = romantic attraction / long-term provider / etc And it has nothing to do with ego, there's nothing "better" about alpha than beta, my best friend is married AKA playing the beta provider role (although he has alpha traits as well) and I have the utmost r… | /r/askMRP | 16/02/21 12:57 AM |
| 0 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?And honestly, you clearly want her to agree to something that is not in her own best interest and long term goals. Yeah, you're right. Guess it's just tough cause I do feel attached right now so either way there's pain for one of us, whether it's some sadness for me now (but still net positive to be FWB with her) or emotional pain for her down the road if she were to become more attached again like I currently want her to. Part of me is definitely glad she's not attached anymore, for that reason… | /r/askMRP | 16/02/21 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?I never said it was her Frame I see Instead you're here looking for a magic bullet to get you what you think you want out of life today Nah, I was looking for advice and/or insights. Even a non-black-and-white discussion of the theoretical points I mentioned in my post would be interesting - e.g. I'd be open to the thought (which I currently see as likely true in most cases) that if a girl knows a guy won't commit long term (i.e. wouldn't satisfy the "long term provider" part of her dual mating … | /r/askMRP | 16/02/21 12:42 AM |
| 0 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?You're deep in a Frame, that's for sure. It's also certain that Frame isn't Yours. How exactly am I in her frame? Genuine question and open to your thoughts, but I currently just see the situation as two people who view relationships differently (I view them as, let's enjoy the moment and it has nothing to do with marriage / kids; she views them as heading towards a future together and has now detached herself emotionally now that she knows I'm probably not that kind of guy). Two people with dif… | /r/askMRP | 16/02/21 12:21 AM |
| -1 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?Fair enough man, good to know you're not angry, I just don't see the utility of such harsh words. This last comment of yours seems way more conducive to an interesting + useful discussion. You can be a real man without calling people a bitch or faggot like some commenters seem to be doing here. For what it's worth I do have solid goals and take good care of myself, improve my SMV / career / have meaningful hobbies, live life for myself and have a solid sense of who I am + what I value, etc. I ju… | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 11:41 PM |
| -4 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?I don't want a traditional relationship that's going towards marriage. I do want to exclusively date her right now. In any case I already figured out what I want thanks to other comments here, one in particular although I'm also enjoying diving more into MRP material now. You guys can stop acting all cool and condescending now, I'm good. No need to get so angry at a random dude on the internet asking a question. | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?You had no other women in your pipeline. None that I liked as much, true. I fucked a couple other girls around the time I started dating her but I liked her way more. which isn't a relationship by the way When did I say it was? | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?Yea I missed that, just skimmed the first half when I came here then clicked away without realizing the "science experiment" was referring to the sub as a whole. Like I said I'm new here. But at least I got some actually good responses here, so I'm glad I asked anyway | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 09:11 PM |
| -1 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?From the sub's description: This the sub where you can ask basic questions, have a victim puke, find a NMMNG safe person, or otherwise ask questions too basic for MRP. The kinder antechamber to the locker room that is MRP. And the sub is literally called "askMRP" | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 08:46 PM |
| -1 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?When exactly did I say I've done zero work, or that I want people to hold my hand? I simply asked for insight, and I have indeed gotten good insights from other people here. I'm pretty satisfied with the responses I've gotten and I'm glad I asked this question. No handholding necessary. | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?Do you know what you want? Yeah for now I want an exclusive relationship with her without any long-term commitment because I have no idea what's in our future (and would be surprised if we got married). But I'll admit there are conflicting desires I have, because I also care about her and wouldn't want to break her heart / waste her prime years and have her regret that. Thanks... that question actually helped me. More than I thought it would. | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 08:28 PM |
| 0 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?Isn't this an advice sub? Clearly other people cared enough to give their thoughts | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?Thanks for the input, can I ask what makes a man ready for an LTR? From my perspective I don't even want an LTR necessarily, just a STR or MTR (short / medium), but also the best way to learn something is through active practice | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 08:11 PM |
| 2 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?Fair enough. Thanks | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 07:58 PM |
| 0 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?I didn't ask for you to care lol, I opened the discussion to any insights / advice people here have on my situation. You don't need to care, I'm the one who cares. | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?Btw, what the fuck does any of this have to do with MRP?? I actually reached out to an endorsed contributor from TRP about this question - the alpha/beta dichotomy and how it impacts relationships, and e.g. that my college bluepill relationships lasted longer than this one. And he suggested I reach out here and that MRP might have insights for me since TRP is more about spinning plates / being a player while MRP is more about having successful relationships. I feel like I'm in a weird middle gro… | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 07:56 PM |
| 0 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?It all ties together. Back in college I behaved more like a normal traditional bluepill boyfriend and my relationships lasted longer (till I broke up with them after e.g. 8 months for various reasons), then I got into game/TRP and learned how to be more alpha, dominant in bed, pass shit tests, etc which has a large impact on the dynamic b/w me and this girl (including, from my perspective, playing a big role in why she broke up with me, because she realized I'm probably not a long-term marriage … | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 07:50 PM |
| 0 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?She's keeping her options open because you are. It's more the opposite, I've told her I don't really wanna see other people (and even that I'd wanna call her my girlfriend) and she says she just wants to be friends. When I found out yesterday she had a date planned, I told her she's free and can do what she wants but that I would want us to be normally together which she already knows. Your reasons why you're shaky about a few years down the road.. do you know why? I guess cause of my current vi… | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 07:46 PM |
| 4 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?She says she doesn't want that anymore, that she doesn't feel the romantic love anymore and just loves me as a friend. | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 07:38 PM |
| 0 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?Lol true. Although she doesn't seem to feel it herself, she actually told me I can fuck other chicks and to just let her know if I fuck someone else without a condom so that she'll make sure to always use a condom with me | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?Okay. I've read some of the MRP sidebar (particularly the parts that overlap with TRP's sidebar) but will continue it. Thank you for your advice | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 07:22 PM |
| 0 | Not married, but really like a girl who used to want a relationship (and I didn't, long-term) and now she just sees me as a friend who fucks her well. Insight from MRP?You're too young, and your "relationship" is too young for you to be exclusive with someone Why's this? I ask because isn't there room in TRP / MRP for doing what you want - and in this case, I have a desire to be exclusive with her for now, even though we're young? | /r/askMRP | 15/02/21 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Lol I never said they were mutually exclusive, just that they're not the same. My point is that you can be physically attracted to someone without having sex with them. The fact that you choose not to have sex with girls you don't find intelligent / you don't feel connected to, even if you find them sexually attractive, doesn't mean that you're not sexually attracted to those girls, nor does it mean you're sexually attracted to intelligence in the same way that you're sexually attracted to boobs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/21 07:10 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Your last sentence shows what I'm talking about. Having sex =/= physical attraction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Humans have patterns. There are exceptions but for the most part guys aren't attracted to intelligence the same way they get boners from watching porn | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/21 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.It's really not. Confidence is arousing to women. In the extreme case, even cockiness can be arousing to women in a hookup context. I didn't get a boner when I saw my ex reciting poetry, I just got a crush on her and wanted to be her boyfriend. I got a boner when I saw her naked. Long-term vs short-term attraction. Beta vs alpha traits. It's a thing for both men and women. Short-term, sexual attraction traits have to do with "who would be a good person to have sex with even if I wasn't their boy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/21 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Interesting point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.I'm done talking to you. Once again you have no idea what TRP is about (and no intention of actually finding out). Pce out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.I understand that old people enjoy sex lol, my confusion was why they enjoy sex when old women are no longer fertile, when for the rest of their lives they're disgusted by the idea of having sex with a non-fertile old woman. Like, imagine when you're 90 years old you suddenly want to have sex with suitcases. I ask, "I wonder why that's the case", and you just reply, "Because it's fun to orgasm" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 03:08 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.That’s different to me. I’m not physically touching those women. I only want to actually be intimate with someone whom I have feelings for. You're missing my entire point. I'm trying to demonstrate to you the difference between your romantic preferences (e.g. "I like being a boyfriend to intellectual women") vs what makes you sexually attracted to women (e.g. signs of fertility like wide birthing hips / youthful skin, which you find in the porn you jack off to, and you find in the women you are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 03:07 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.A 25 year old man would be disgusted at the idea of having sex with an 80 year old woman. I'm wondering how/why we evolved to have our sexual preferences stay in line with our ages. But maybe I just answered my own question. Evolution isn't pretty and what works, works. That could've just been what worked to keep the human race alive - a mutation that made us attracted to those our age, to keep society functional while also allowing us to reproduce when the time is right (fertile years). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Lol did you learn how to bang lead singers and athletes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 06:16 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Thankfully being open and up front about being ace has helped me find others in the same community. So the goal is to find another ace to be monogamous with <3 Aww :) yeah that sounds like a good strategy All of that combined with the discovery of the whole red pill, blue pill stuff lol. Man my whole world view flipped. I’ve been in long term relationships most of my adult life. A 4 year, 8 year, and 3 year. So when I read and hear a lot of red pill ideas and compare them to my past experiences … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 05:33 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.You're a girl, you don't need to figure this stuff out. TRP helps guys get laid. And no, most guys don't figure out this stuff. Most guys have no idea how to be attractive enough and have enough game to have casual sex with chicks they find hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 05:27 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Most men aren't good with girls, and most women aren't very consciously aware of what they find most sexually attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 05:13 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.conducting relationships as antagonistic and constant battle sounds not worth it Once again you have no idea what TRP is about. And that traditional courtship you’re asserting is the norm is very much not, and hasn’t been for decades. If you actually believe that’s how dating works, I think you have the problem, not the world. I’m old by Reddit standards, and flowers and nicey nice gentleman courtly dating behavior was nowhere near the norm back in the day. Most people date as friends and compan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 05:11 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Edit. It’s also possible my exes were so bad at sex that it could be a reason too, but doubtful. 3 of the 5 were virgins, so they didn’t have experience, and I just didn’t care enough to get creative. So eh! Doubtful. Sex is very enjoyable for me even when the girl has no idea what she's doing, assuming I'm properly into her. Nowadays I actually do 100% of the work during sex lol (except once in a while I let her ride to change things up) and I love it And yeah girls usually prefer when the guy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 05:01 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Haha I still consider it to be red pilled, just my version of red pill. But no problem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 04:57 AM |
| 0 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Even though I got it right in my post? Keep up the intellectual dishonesty man you're doing great lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 02:38 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.I love the romance part though. Same man. I wonder if I can actually understand how you experience relationships too because I've had one before where we barely had sex for the last few months but I didn't care at all, I just loved cuddling and kissing and being with her :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Yea it was a typo / mind slip lol, should say "men are supposed to be the gatekeepers of sex, not women". Cmon man you should be able to tell that based on context, look who's being intellectually dishonest now ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 02:25 AM |
| 1 | Stop trying to control her behaviour for your benefitThank you for explaining this | /r/MarriedRedPill | 12/02/21 02:02 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Instead of acknowledging the actual intent behind the saying, you've decided the reinterpret it in a way that is clearly different from the intent No, it's that I've seen that saying being used mostly with a different intent than you're describing. Like I said: > E.g. I've seen TRPers warn against a man asking a woman to be exclusive with him because "women are supposed to be the gatekeepers of relationships, not men". And that's actually the main sort of context I've seen the saying used in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 01:58 AM |
| 2 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Men who failed to prefer qualities that signaled high reproductive value—men who preferred to marry gray-haired grandmothers lacking in smooth skin and firm muscle tone— would have left fewer offspring. I really wonder how this ties into older couples. AFAIK nursing homes are notorious for old people fucking like rabbits, and I'm also aware of old people who date each other just like younger people would. If dating / romantic love / etc were so tied to fertility and reproduction (which it defini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Ohhh I gotcha. Thanks for the clarification and thanks for that link too, interesting read | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Ah not at all, if you specify that there's a lot of nuance and required qualifying statements then I'd agree with the gatekeeper statement. It's just that on its own (and I have certainly seen it used by TRPers on its own, as an absolute rule) it's not true. E.g. I've seen TRPers warn against a man asking a woman to be exclusive with him because "women are supposed to be the gatekeepers of relationships, not men". But if all you're saying is "men tend to be more open to casual sex than relations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.For sure, they can be. I just get the sense that the aesthetic preferences you describe in your romantic partners are a similar type of sexual preference that a non-asexual person might have. The best way I usually describe asexually is like someone who loves the smell of coffee, but hates to drink it. ... But I don’t think I would get they close to someone if I didn’t find them inherently attractive to some degree. ... If I met a pretty woman in a wheel chair Sentences like these give me that s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.I was only attempting to define the concept of male polygamy, I wasn't claiming all men are like that. The degree of polygamy of any particular male is purely individual, as you say. Same with female hypergamy. It's just that the two phenomenons are common enough that they can be frequently observed in various forms and hence warrant a special name and definition and are used as a prediction heuristic with some success. Well, you said it's a man's ideal outcome, which I disagree with - it's just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.A bit too lazy right now to find a study I'm remembering, but it showed headshots of men on their own, and then showed headshots of those men alongside headshots of women and told the female raters that the two were a couple, and found that the men were rated more attractive in the couple context. Also the fact that the attractiveness of the female "partner" was an important factor, implies it's not just about safety (not to mention that the man was rated on attractiveness, not safety / comfort)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Then don't argue against it at all if you agree with it. You're clearly unaware that guys are taught that the way to be good with girls is to be nice and buy them flowers, rather than to learn how to tease them on dates. Congrats, you're red pilled and don't even know it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/21 12:29 AM |
| 5 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.I consider myself red pilled in the sense that I believe in significant gender differences, but I can’t stand the “women’s nature = bad, men’s nature = good/neutral” narrative in red pill communities. Some of it is also pretty out of touch with reality and way too reliant on elaborate theories trying to make women look bad. Then let's change that narrative :) we can be wholesomely red pilled | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 11:51 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.The “bad boy” has always been a thing Yes and that's what TRP is about teaching men to learn to have the qualities of, so they can have casual sex and/or become more attractive to women. And no, mainstream society does not teach guys that stuff. Good to know you have no idea what TRP is about and you just like arguing against it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 11:44 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Agreed. I just find many RP men talk about things like branch swinging as if they're unique to women. But I agree with your comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 11:11 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Men are perfectly willing to fuck women they would never dream of marrying As are women women are perfectly willing to marry men they are absolutely not interested in fucking This is extremely rare, most marriages involve enjoyable sex for both parties Men and women both have standards for who they date and fuck. Thus they are both gatekeepers of sex and relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Yeah I agree. I guess I've just seen the word "hypergamy" incorrectly used in TRP to refer to branch swinging (hence why I said "depending on the definition"). In that case you can just replace "hypergamy" with "branch swinging" in my post and my point still holds (which you agree with) - that it can apply to both men and women. Disagree. Both men and women withhold both commitment and sex from people whom they perceive as beneath them. A normal man won't fuck an ugly woman, and a normal woman w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 10:25 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.No it's not. Mainstream society doesn't tell men to practice being cocky and teasing girls on dates because it's an effective way to make them more attracted to you. Mainstream society doesn't teach men that girls are attracted to guys they'd hook up with in a much different way from how they're attracted to guys they'd want to marry, or teach men how to be that hookup kind of guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 10:10 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Dude you keep forgetting who you're talking to. I never said any of those things myself. Stop replying to me if you're not going to reply to my points. I literally argued against that first point ("incapable of love") in my original post above. And I disagree with the others as well. As I said in my post, that doesn't mean there's not still a red pill to take - to observe the actual differences between men and women and their sexual preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.That‘s why peer reviews and doing experiments over and over again are so important because one research group can come up with a different results each time. The paper I linked was a meta-analysis | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 09:34 PM |
| 3 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.If you don’t believe in one of its basic principles, are you actually Red Pill? Read the third bulletpoint of my post. RP is not about misogyny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 09:28 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.I never said those qualities were mutually exclusive with attracting women. Just that it misses out a large part of the picture of what's primally attractive to women, which TRP captures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Okay, well I don't really experience this and I usually have to get to know a woman and have feelings for her before I want to have sex with her. Are you unable to masturbate to hot women in porn you've never met? Whom you choose to have sex with is different from what you're sexually attracted to. I do agree that RP can work as a general heuristic to attract women, although I always debate that the type of women that it attracts are more likely to be ones of lower psychological quality, and tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 08:14 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Men and women ARE different psychologically/biologically...they are also not different SPECIES and similar in more ways than they are different. Sure? This isn't about saying whether men and women are more similar or more different on the whole. This is about specific generalizations about differences in sexual attraction between the sexes, for example that women are attracted to confidence on a primal level while men are not. I am aware that both men and women breathe, eat, sleep, poop, etc. an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 08:09 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.I'm attracted to women who are intellectually confident and who I can have good discussions with. I'm also attracted to women who have have talents and skills that impress me. I'm also attracted to traditional feminine qualities, sure, but I think that a woman's accomplishments help me to respect her more and to therefore increase my attraction. I realize that all men don't think this way and some just want a pretty face and hot body to have sex with, but I don't think that I'm the only guy who … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Or, you know, the statements in the first half of my post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.I have strong aesthetic preferences. I am attracted to certain looks.The best way I usually describe asexually is like someone who loves the smell of coffee, but hates to drink it. I see. To me this would qualify as sexual attraction - sexual attraction, to me, isn't just about the act of sex. Sounds like you have sexual preferences, but the act of sex for whatever reason (perhaps a genetic mutation in your psychology or something) isn't enjoyable for you. Thanks for sharing though. Always cool … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 07:55 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Well yeah of course we're all human. That statement doesn't really say much about the fact that there are some generalizable statements we can make about men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.As an asexual, I strongly disagree that sexual attraction is required for romantic love. Interesting, I don't know much about asexual people. Do you not have physical preferences at all for the people you desire to be romantic with? Would you be equally likely to want a relationship with an ugly woman (e.g. facial deformities) as a pretty woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 07:28 PM |
| 3 | Women, why do you even care if your bf breaks up with you? You have sooooo many options nowadaysyou wouldn't say "why are you sad your friend left the friendship, you can just friend another friend?". that's ridiculous. Good analogy. Humans are made to form bonds. When we break bonds it hurts even if we can make other bonds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 07:14 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Women Can’t Love (Like/But Men Can) This was one of the RP sayings I argued against in my post. Are you even aware you're having a discussion with me lol? You still haven't even addressed the first half of my post other than saying you disagree because any generalization someone makes is always a form of "bigotry" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 07:07 PM |
| 3 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Very true on all counts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Fair enough. Good talk man, you were nice to discuss with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 07:00 PM |
| 6 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Compare this formulation with male polygamy: a man's ideal outcome is to have a lot of partners with value above a certain threshold. That's one type of sexual strategy a man can undertake. Another kind, is getting into a long-term relationship with a single woman and starting a family with her. Most of my male friends prefer having an exclusive girlfriend over having sex with multiple women. The two definitions aren't entirely unrelated. But they're not the same. Say she's dating guy A, and she… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 06:58 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Saying women are attracted to models? Yes, that’s very mild bigotry, because 1) that’s still a generalization and 2) it’s not a positive trait. It’s considered “bad” and shallow to be attracted to physical attributes, especially for women Oof. Do you also think it's bigotry to say women tend to have less facial hair than men on average? That ducks tend to have two legs and quack? It shouldn't be considered bad or shallow to be attracted to physical attributes. It's just a fact... humans are biol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Yes she opened the door for you without any restriction. It's the best scenario a man can have. Depends on the man and the girl, no? In this case my ideal situation would be the "regulated" sex you talk about, i.e. let into the short-term relationship gate where I can be exclusively with her e.g. for a couple years. Which is different from my actual situation where I'm only let into the casual sex gate, but also different from your situation where you're only let into the long-term relationship … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Well by "truths" I mean "generalizations that tend to be true for most women". And I completely disagree that generalizations are in themselves forms of bigotry. Is it bigotry to say that women are generally attracted to male model type faces (or, in my post, to say that women are generally more sexually attracted to confident men)? Or that men are generally more physically attracted to youthful (e.g. early 20s) and fertile women than e.g. 50 year old women? To me, something becomes bigotry when… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Fair enough. I guess unfortunately the truth is that for you, the saying may be more true since you're not attractive enough to pass through the casual sex gate with these women (although I'd also argue hope is not lost, if you did want to go the TRP route and improve your physique and learn game to have more sexual options). Meanwhile for more attractive men, it's more possible to be the gatekeepers of both sex and relationships, and be allowed through the "sex" gate with women but not the "rel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 05:47 PM |
| 0 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Sure it is. Most of society believes that sex is bad for women but not for men, because we are sooooooooo different. All attitudes regarding cheating, n counts, virginity, dating, etc, stems from this desire to see the sexes as completely different, with two different standards of morality and conduct. Well, there are evolutionary reasons for why sex is seen differently across the sexes. Paternity certainty can be compromised if a woman has sex with multiple men, but a man having sex with multip… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 05:36 PM |
| 7 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Well, if we’re talking about attraction, that’s different. Even then, are we strictly talking about sexual/physical attraction? Strictly physical/sexual, I'm sure most people agree there’s differences in what males and females find attractive. Yeah I'm mostly talking about sexual attraction (that's the main thing TRP is concerned with: the sexual marketplace). It's already mostly obvious to mainstream society that men and women are attracted to different things physically. So I'm mainly talking … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 05:32 PM |
| 4 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.These are generalizations, of course. The problem that BP has is that RP often thinks that these things are universals. Nothing is universal and I don't think any sane RP man would argue there can never be exceptions. TRP is about generalizations and patterns. There are multiple posts on "AWALT" describing that it's not meant to be taken literally; it's more like "treat all guns as loaded". And personally TRP generalizations have proven to be very accurate in the women I've dated. Many men are a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 05:08 PM |
| 15 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.For example, a whiny entitled man has more in common with a whiny entitled woman than he does with the average man. Depends on the context. They will still be attracted to very different things. There are similarities and there are differences. Both sexes are attracted to fitness and health. But women aren't attracted to wide birthing hips in men (as a trivial physical example). I think TRP gets a lot right when it comes to what women are uniquely psychologically attracted to, and saying they mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 04:39 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Red pill wants reasons to treat women differently Lol no, TRP is about learning about female psychology so we can improve our dating lives. The goal is truth. I'm just disgreeing with how I often see TRPers frame certain observations. But I don't think they're making observations for the sake of having an excuse to treat women differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 04:36 PM |
| 6 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Hypergamy to me means wanting someone who is above you. Definitely, this is another definition - that's why I specified "depending on the definition" in my post. I've seen hypergamy being used in some cases in TRP to refer to branch swinging to a higher value partner, and in other cases being used to describe the seeking of higher-status partners as you describe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 04:30 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Relationship Gatekeeping: None of the men they fucked in their 20's cared or intended to keep them, none of those men tried to marry these women How do you know this is true? What if the woman was the one to dump the man she dated in her 20s (which is usually the case actually - most breakups are initiated by women)? now I also close the marriage door on them. Sure, but you wouldn't have back in the day, right? They all want to marry me but I know they don't truly feel attracted to me. Okay I gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 04:28 PM |
| 9 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.If any non obese women asked a man for sex directly 75%+ of them would say yes and the rest would be flattered. Key word "non-obese" - you're still acknowledging that men have standards for sex. As for being flattered, I'd agree, but that's only because men tend to receive less compliments and advances than women; I wouldn't say it has anything to do with men not being gatekeepers of sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 04:13 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.A paragraph about how it doesn't make sense to be purple pilled is a novel? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 03:56 PM |
| 7 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.Your experience makes sense, but I don't really see how that proves that women are the gatekeepers of sex / men are the gatekeepers of relationships. All that proves is that you are now higher value than those women and wouldn't want to marry them anymore. You still wouldn't fuck an ugly woman, and they still wouldn't date the 22 y/o version of you. You both still have standards for who you would date and/or fuck, and you'd both filter many prospects out of each category. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 03:50 PM |
| 15 | Men and women are more similar than RP people often think, and more different than BP people often think.I was taught growing up that women were attracted to kindness, respect, gentleness, etc. Those can all be good traits for a romantic partner but they are not sexually arousing. I was taught that to win a woman's heart, a man should do things like buy her flowers and be polite, not flirt confidently on a date and act like I know she wants to have sex with me already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 03:47 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseYou know me so well 😏 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 10:14 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseAnd a big penis beside it don't you... no need to lie now, there's nothing wrong with being intersex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 10:09 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseYou have a big penis don't you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 09:29 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseI think you're lying about being a woman. I think you may be a hermaphrodite | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 09:23 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseI do make her cum lol, I just have nothing to prove to some random toxic cunt on the internet. Go fuck yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 08:22 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseSays who? You been stalking me and taping my sex sessions? Again you're a fucking judgmental idiot, you probably hate men and don't like the idea of a girl enjoying being submissive (which again makes you sexist against women ironically, you don't want this girl to engage in a fwb and sex acts she enjoys by her own choice) And don't tell me your boy makes you cum while you shove dildos up his ass? Last comment here cause this is a waste of my neurons. Ever heard of "live and let live"? You shoul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 08:16 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseYea my fwb is my girl, we call each other "my baby" and I treat her well and make her food all the time and take care of her, but I'm just an abusive asshole right? You are a judgmental idiot | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 07:56 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseYou have such toxic ideas about sex. You're essentially asking me to let her rape me. I don't want a dildo in my ass and tbh I don't think she'd want that either, I think she just thinks it'd be cool to experiment one day and was half joking when she talked about it, but she prefers being submissive. It's so sad because I checked out your profile the other day and you were asking why sex is male focused and shit, meanwhile I fuck this girl probably better than anyone else ever will, and you're t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 07:48 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseDUDE SHE LIKES BEING SUBMISSIVE YOU RETARD People can have multiple desires you absolute fucking retard. Go shove a spiky dildo up your boyfriend's ass you toxic cunt, leave me alone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 07:40 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseDude what are you basing your ridiculous claims on? All I've said is that she enjoys submissive sex with me and she might also enjoy dominant sex with someone else in the future. She knows we're just fwb and that's what she wants. Stop projecting your own desires onto her, she is not you and you are not her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 06:17 PM |
| 2 | Can women be truly satisfied if they marry a somewhat physically attractive man?Yes but the idea is that physical looks are far from the only factor, even if being above a certain threshold is a necessary factor. If youre attractive enough to fuck or marry in the first place, looks will probably not be the cause for divorce | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 03:06 PM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?I try to minimize chances of doxxing myself. But let's say 5'8-5'11. Why do you ask | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?She's detached more than me now. She's fine lol we're both happy, I'm the one working on being ok with fwb | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 01:38 PM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?Average | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 01:37 PM |
| 2 | Are alpha males sexually oppressed by society?In fact it is usually a sign that she is DTF Lol 100% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 04:15 AM |
| 0 | Are alpha males sexually oppressed by society?Not sure where you read the latter in what I wrote. I'm talking in the context of OP's post about people calling guys fuckboys / manwhores / etc. An attractive guy wouldn't care about someone judging them like that, and could even just own it and treat it like a shit test (which I've done before) which garners more respect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 03:44 AM |
| 5 | Are alpha males sexually oppressed by society?Part of being alpha means not giving a fuck about what other people think of you. And part of being alpha also means having characteristics like charisma, confidence, and good looks that make people more likely to like you and treat you better anyway. So nah. If someone calls me a fuckboy (inb4 someone replies flaming me for calling myself alpha... we're having a relevant conversation here, and I've indeed been called a fuckboy before) I don't give a fuck, I live my life anyway and I have a soli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 03:38 AM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseThe double standards you have are hilarious, you're actually incredibly sexist, and the funny thing is you're denying the girl her own agency and ability to enjoy a fwb she wants. She called herself my slut by her own volition before I even wanted to dirty talk like that with her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 01:54 AM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseI like doing 69 and she doesn't so we don't do 69. Is she blocking my fantasies and thus abusing me? There's something called engaging in sex acts that both people can enjoy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 11:50 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseI'm not treating her bad lol she is very happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 11:49 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseReported. I think you're on the wrong sub if you can't have a civil discussion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?Cool story homie. Does it feel good to tell other people they have issues when they simply have a mutually enjoyable fwb Does it feel good to patronize this girl you don't know and assume she's not able to emotionally detach and enjoy sex with someone she used to love? And be in full agency of her actions in an open communication situation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 11:40 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseJesus Christ man. Not even gonna reply fully to this, you have projected so many random incorrect things onto me. But for what it's worth she really likes the sex with me, and no she's not my girlfriend, and no I don't control her outside of sex, and yes she really likes being submissive to me in bed. Now go back to your own life and stop trying to control me and tell me I need to let a girl dominate me even if I don't want her to :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 11:37 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseNever said all women want to be submissive, just that women tend to want to be submissive in bed. Current girl I'm seeing has expressed interest in being dominant, I'm not into that and I take the dominant role and she submits and loves letting go as I fuck her how I want and dirty talk her calling her my sex slave. I'm sure in the future she might explore being more dominant with other guys, it's not black and white, but the way I get her to be submissive definitely brings out a primal pleasure… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 09:53 PM |
| 2 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?What's realistic is that we have a mutually enjoyable fwb, we care about each other (and feel love for each other to some extent) and have good sex and good chill sessions, and neither of us sees ourselves being with each other for the rest of our lives. Doesn't have to be anything like "I feel used" or "I feel like a replacement" on either part | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 09:47 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any sensePersonally I chose to become more dominant in bed because girls like it more and it worked well. Took me a long time to actually start enjoying being dominant myself. And I'm a little confused, didn't you say in your post that people aren't Dom/sub in real life? In real life I just find I'm a normal dude. Not dominant, not submissive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?That's pretty binary thinking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 08:55 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseBecause good sex has to take an hour? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 08:54 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseGirls started enjoying sex with me on a much more visceral level when I read Sex God Method and incorporated dominance (and the other elements of DEVI) into my sex over time. It's very clear that it has very little to do with feeling responsible and a LOT to do with a primal desire for strong dominant alpha men who take their women. I just finished fucking my girl while she called herself my little slut and said her pussy was all mine, it has nothing to do with not wanting to feel like a slut. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 07:08 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseThere are always exceptions but as far as I understand it (and in my experience), the majority of women enjoy being submissive in bed (to varying degrees) and that's not the case for men. And it is deeply related to the fact that girls are attracted to strength in men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 06:02 PM |
| 1 | The idea of submissive women in bed being in control in real professional life doesn’t make any senseYeah. It's just a backwards rationalization. Girls tend to be submissive because they're attracted to strong dominant men (think caveman times, the strong dominant men would be the best protectors or at the very least have the best genes for strong children). Has nothing to do with being dominant in everyday life, at most it's a side benefit for girls that they get to submit during sex and let go without feeling guilty about being sluts, or let go and not feel responsible for anything in life...… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 05:41 PM |
| 2 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?You're the one demonizing femininity lol. Nothing wrong with it and I'm not insecure about having emotions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?A platonic friendship is a type of "relationship" too but it's distinct from an exclusive, immersive romantic relationship with one person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?Yeah I just find it funny that the user above is promoting toxic views on femininity / masculinity (implying they're dichotomous and it's not attractive for a guy to ever have any feminine qualities) when they also seem to be very blue pilled. The truth is that a guy can have alpha qualities and feminine qualities at the same time (or at different times) and there's nothing wrong with any of it. All I mentioned in my post was that I displayed alpha qualities (cocky/funny vibes, confident sexual … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 03:47 PM |
| 2 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?I don't think you understand what alpha means in the context of TRP, and I think you're projecting a lot of your own oversimplifications onto me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 03:42 PM |
| 2 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?Sure? I've never thought of RMV including a person's willingness to be in a long-term relationship but I guess I can see that At the same time I've had a girl I was fucking really want a relationship with me despite me being brutally explicit that I wasn't looking for anything serious, implying that RMV isn't necessarily strongly linked with willingness to be in a relationship. RMV would more just be about how good of a bf/gf a person would make if they were one. (But to play devil's advocate on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 03:41 PM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?Very poetic. Thanks for the comment :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 08:35 AM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?And what about a woman who would eventually want a real long term relationship with someone else, but would also be okay with short term casual sex or FWB with me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 08:32 AM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?Bother with me in what sense? You don't think healthy girls out there can like casual sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:49 AM |
| 2 | Is never being harassed worth never being liked?True. I still think humans are deeply wired to want relationships and sex though, and I think my life would be way less enjoyable living in a normal modern society (i.e. not in a monastery) as an incel, even if I had the amazing friend circle I currently have. From personal experience, even dedicating as much time to the gym as I do, it's solely for increasing the quality of my dating life. And I don't think that's just because society has told me I need girls to be happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?Jesus. Glad you got out of that mess safely | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:26 AM |
| 2 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?It’s hard to tell because some women will say they’re cool with casual so they don’t look desperate or clingy to the guy while still pining for more. For sure, I've actually had that happen before with a previous ex who became an FWB and said she was glad we were just casual (but later went a little crazy temporarily when I started dating someone else, and admitted she was still in love with me the whole time). But I don't think that's the case here. I've been pretty open with communication with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?I actually thought that for a while with the girl in my post, until I found out that she did want a relationship with me before the breakup, and broke up with me largely because of the resentment from me not treating her like a "proper gf". So I don't think I am low RMV, although when she broke up with me and I didn't know the reason, I definitely thought that was my issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:22 AM |
| 3 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?Since we started seeing each other again I've literally told her I still have feelings for her and would want her to be my girlfriend, and that I don't want to see other girls. She's told me she no longer feels romantic love for me and doesn't have emotions attached to me, and just feels friendship love for me, and says it might be healthy for me to sleep with other girls. I'm not leading her on - I've also been honest about the fact that I don't even know if I'll ever get married to anyone. I'm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?There's a reason she said she realized I was a "fuckboy" (and no I'm not calling myself that, although I get why she called me that). She could tell. Nonverbals can communicate a lot. No, I did not lead her on lol. Literally after I had sex with her for the first time, I asked her about some other dude she'd gone on a date with, and that's when she thought I wanted a relationship and got scared (which she told me on a later occasion) because she didn't want a relationship. As for the second girl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:18 AM |
| 6 | Is never being harassed worth never being liked?Don't know much about nuns, but monks actively dedicate their lives to overcoming worldly desires. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:14 AM |
| 2 | Lurker Callout ThreadNah I meant what makes you so certain you're a permavirgin, that love/sex aren't in the cards for you. Loads of guys are virgins before they improve themselves and learn how to be better with chicks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:12 AM |
| 0 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?Not at all. Like I said, she was considering dating me before we had sex. By the time we had sex, I had already non-verbally shown (through my vibe, subcommunications, etc) that I wasn't looking for something serious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?No one's talking about not letting people do what they want, I'm just wondering what women here would want. And the pattern seems to be that they wouldn't want a relationship that wasn't going somewhere long-term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:09 AM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?he wanted to tell me that he was pissed at me for declining his offer in a situationship and that i will never be able to get a guy in my life... also to not get my hopes up because he is the one ending things with me... not him. Yeah that guy sounds like a douche. Although you're quite mature for also feeling bad for breaking his heart (not that you should feel bad) - you're right that for him to act like that, he must've been in emotional pain himself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:08 AM |
| 2 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?Who says I am? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:06 AM |
| 2 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?Both girls in question were virgins. The first one actually told me later on that she was considering dating me at first (before we had sex) until she "realized I was a fuckboy". Seems like a lot of people here in the comments are missing out on the fact that girls can be into casual sex, or relationships, depending on the guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:04 AM |
| 0 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?I think it's neither. She wants us to be just friends, but as far as I know she's not yet dating other people because she feels that'd be unfair to them, although she definitely references we might have to stop having sex if we start dating other people seriously | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 01:01 AM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?Yup | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 12:58 AM |
| 3 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?Edit. The dude has such a feminine vibe. Oh these self-proclaimed AlpHa MaLes What's wrong with being feminine? I never proclaimed to be some 100% machismo soldier | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 12:58 AM |
| 2 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?I feel sorry for this girl. It's probably safe to assume she's hoping that you'll eventually come around/commit. She's going to be crushed. Nah, I actually told her I'd want to call her my girlfriend and I don't want to see other girls, and she's very adamant that she wants us to just be friends (and even said it might be healthy for me to sleep with other girls). She enjoys the good sex I give her and my friendship. Thanks for your comment. Seems like all the girls here fall in line with this t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/21 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?I've had multiple experiences with girls where we started out with casual sex, and when they got a sense I might want a relationship, that scared them because they weren't looking for anything serious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/21 10:38 PM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?Agree with the other comment that girl sounds like she's losing herself. How so? We're no longer exclusive (at least in theory) and she now just views me as a FWB, and doesn't feel romantic love for me anymore Not an exclusive or long term one. I've had an FWB before but I made it clear I'd still be dating other guys on the side and it only lasted a few months. Cool, very interesting. Definitely falls in line with this theory | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/21 10:31 PM |
| 2 | Would you be in a relationship with a guy knowing it doesn't have a long-term future?It's pretty rare to find a girl who has literally never had a casual fling or fwbs. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about being in an intimate, exclusive relationship with someone, while knowing it won't last forever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/21 10:27 PM |
| 9 | Is never being harassed worth never being liked?Humans are wired for two things: survival and reproduction. There's a reason most incels are suicidal (and this is coming from a non-incel). It's not that society taught them to worship pussy, it's that reproduction makes up a HUGE part of what humans are wired to desire (manifested in the desire for sex and relationships). Can I be happy single? Sure, because I know I'll have relationships in the future (and even then, I much prefer the feeling of being in a relationship, or at the very least h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/21 10:23 PM |
| 7 | Lurker Callout ThreadHonestly this subreddit pushes me to come to terms with being a permavirgin What makes you so certain of this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/21 09:25 PM |
| 14 | Men are just as “shallow” as womenLol whether a guy is looking to fuck or looking for a relationship, online dating is way harder for the average guy than the average girl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/21 03:39 AM |
| 2 | Are all women disgusted whenever a man opens up or is vulnerable? Like subconsciously?anxiety and depression in women is largely attention-seeking Jesus dude, have you ever even been in a single relationship with a girl who has anxiety/depression? You're so wrong about this lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/21 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Are all women disgusted whenever a man opens up or is vulnerable? Like subconsciously?and they are rarely at risk emotionally Anxiety is way more common in women than men. Women definitely feel lots of vulnerable emotions. I get the sense you haven't been in many intimate relationships? It is men that must court women and ask them out --therefore it is the men that are putting themselves at risk of rejection Sure but the human experience goes way beyond the sexual marketplace. Plus women can definitely feel lots of loneliness / heartbreak / etc. Less loneliness than men on averag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/21 06:40 PM |
| 3 | Are all women disgusted whenever a man opens up or is vulnerable? Like subconsciously?This is one reason why most women cannot write really good poetry, make profound films, or even paint great pictures. Most men can't either. Most humans are mediocre at best. There are no female Shakespeares or Dylan Thomases. No female Kirosawa or Rembrandt. Off the top of my head, Ayn Rand is one of my favorite authors | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/21 05:51 PM |
| 3 | PPD 2021 SurveyYea exactly. There are a lot of bitter men in the TRP community, and provocatively worded posts, which tarnish the image of TRP, so I get why people think it's about viewing women negatively. But that's not at all how I see it. I think women are beautiful lol, it's just useful to also understand certain parts of their psychology + biology. And like you say it helps both men and women. Even my sex game is better now (Sex God Method, amazing book) which is great for both me and the girls I'm intim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/21 05:47 AM |
| 5 | PPD 2021 SurveyI view the red pill as being about truth, not about judging women negatively. Hence why red pilled women exist. It's more about acknowledging / exploring the ways in which primal biology plays a role in sexuality and dating, instead of the Disney view of love as being solely about things like personality. And by the same token I don't view blue pill as being critical of men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/21 10:23 PM |
| 4 | PPD 2021 SurveyMost men here are single. Would've been nice to have more specific categories for "single". Like sexually active single (e.g. FWB, plates, ONS) vs sexually inactive single. The pill affiliation charts are interesting. Women are a lot more blue pilled than men here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/21 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Can monogamy make men less attractive?Lol. Have a good day, wish you the best | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/21 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Can monogamy make men less attractive?Fighting? I have no intention of fighting with you or anyone, I just engage on this sub because I find these topics interesting. Feel free to re-read my comments and look for any malice. Disagreeing =/= fighting. I disagree that your fear of the average man is reasonable (I'd similarly disagree that men should be afraid of the average woman, even if some women are dangerous e.g. false rape accusations / BPD / etc), and I disagree with your interpretation of the results in the studies I linked (i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/21 06:09 PM |
| 2 | “Dark Triad traits” include duplicity and propensity for deception. It’s a lot easier to get laid when you lie about being committed.There's truth to both red pill and black pill. Black pill: learning game won't help a 2/10 deformed-face midget very much at all. Looks matter a lot. A nerdy pushover Hemsworth clone can indeed get laid a lot. Red pill: Game also matters, just like looks do. A 6/10 guy can go from being too boring for girls on dates and never hearing back, to being charismatic / more confident and exciting / better at creating a connection with a girl quickly, and get laid way more consistently. If blackpill was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/21 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Can monogamy make men less attractive?That's quite the reaction of yours to my comment. I wrote things like: [it's a stretch to] compare an average guy being rated in a study with a crackhead at a gas station Most single guys are not dangerous But nowhere did I say you're not "allowed" to be afraid of the average guy. You can feel free to disagree with the above two points and come up with counterarguments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/21 06:54 AM |
| 19 | "women preferred omnivorous (meat-eating) men, rated them as more attractive, and felt more positive about them than vegetarians...vegetarian men were considered less attractive because they were perceived as less masculine" Timeo, S., & Suitner, C. (2018)Same but the other way round - I'm still veggie | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/01/21 03:28 AM |
| 1 | Can monogamy make men less attractive?while also telling women they can't be alone w a guy unless you're ready to have sex with him/all your male friends only want to be around you for sex When did I say this? Just because other people have said that to you, doesn't mean I believe that. I have multiple female friends whose friendship I value | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/21 03:22 AM |
| 1 | Can monogamy make men less attractive?It's quite the stretch to say that men in relationships were rated as more attractive simply because they were seen as less scary. And to compare an average guy being rated in a study with a crackhead at a gas station. You can't tell from someone's looks whether they are dangerous. Elliot Rodger didn't look dangerous and he is a mass murderer. We're not talking about actual danger here, we're talking about perceived danger. Most single guys are not dangerous and yet you're saying you'd find a ta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/21 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Can monogamy make men less attractive?Sure, but I def would notice if I were attracted to taken men? Like wouldn't I want to flirt with them or notice feeling more excited when I interact with them? Not necessarily. A lot of attraction is subconscious, and when you holistically view a guy as a certain level of attractiveness, you're not necessarily aware of all the factors that went into that subconscious holistic judgment. Back-rationalization is a common thing in humans too. As a guy I've observed mate choice copying (e.g. lingeri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/21 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Can monogamy make men less attractive?Can't comment too much on your experience since I don't know you or the guys you've been attracted to. But I would say there's a chance you're simply unaware of how certain factors affect how attractive you see a guy as. Humans are varied so it's certainly possible you're an exception to the pattern. But I also wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the female participants in the below studies had the same perspective as you, even though results showed otherwise. Here's one study on it: The results s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/21 07:01 PM |
| 2 | Can monogamy make men less attractive?It's not just feeling safe, look up "mate choice copying" on Google Scholar. Preselection is about the guy actually being seen as more attractive if he's seen attracting (or partnered with) other attractive women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/21 06:34 PM |
| 6 | Can monogamy make men less attractive?Then you wouldn't be an incel for very long. That's a big assumption. Looks play a massive role in attraction and the average man already has it pretty hard because women tend to be pretty picky with dating. I can easily imagine having a very subpar face and never being able to get a single girlfriend because of it, and being treated shitty by girls everywhere (I've seen both firsthand and secondhand how girls label guys as creepy if they're below their league). Incels have stories of girls just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/21 03:46 PM |
| 1 | Can monogamy make men less attractive?Crying would be more appropriate than laughing but if you actually felt like crying you wouldn't have posted that comment. I don't understand when I see people lack sympathy for incels online, being an incel would absolutely suck and I feel really bad for them. And it's not surprising they have a wiki site. If I were incel I'd also want to at least be part of a fellow-incel community, do a bunch of research on why I'm incel to try and understand my painful situation more (hell, even I'm interest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/21 02:33 PM |
| 4 | Which gender likes the other one more in aggregate?Men tend to see femininity as inherently lesser which is why being compared to a woman is the ultimate insult. That's not what your linked study showed. Evidence pointed to men avoiding feminine behavior because they didn't want to seem gay, not because they viewed femininity as inherently lesser. Personally I think society in general has more sympathy for women than men on average, but that the highest-revered people in society (e.g. celebrities, athletes) tend to be male. On a more individual … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/21 07:47 PM |
| 2 | Let's chat about Psychographic Personas & Your Relational Life Experiences - post your results!Male. I've also meditated a few hundred hours over the last couple years which definitely influences my personality + answers lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/21 02:58 AM |
| 2 | Let's chat about Psychographic Personas & Your Relational Life Experiences - post your results!Extroversion 83, Emotional stability 91, Agreeableness 83, Conscientiousness 52, Intellect/Imagination 40 No idea what my MBTI is. Never really found that big of an interest in these tests / saw how I could apply them to my life, although it was fun to answer these questions for a bit and explore how I see myself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/21 02:21 AM |
| 1 | Did you use fictional characters as role models to imitate when learning to flirt/impress the opposite gender?Not fictional. But my game is partly inspired by Julien Blanc's style from before his media scandal. More in the fucking around, self-amusement way, though, not in the calling women dogs way. Russell Brand too, in a similar way. Sexual and fuck-around-y but from a lighthearted well-intentioned place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/21 11:58 PM |
| 2 | A study showed that unattractive women are more likely to cheat than attractive womenAgreed, it sounds sketchy, but they found a significant correlation between the speed of gaze-aversion and infidelity. So supposedly there's something to it, although ofc there's always a chance of randomness... but the P value was pretty small implying it's not random | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/21 08:29 PM |
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