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You seem like someone determined to hate women, and taking it out on me. I know it's a lot easier to hate on me because I'm the enemy. I won't go and do precisely what you're requesting, but in any case, thanks for reading.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 04:49 PM
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No, you're right -- somehow I thought this would be a safer place to post than mensrights. I posted this expecting some backlash, but "why bother" -- as I mentioned in my post, I was reading through all the stories and felt really sad about the state of things. I'll admit it was a mistake to post here, and I'm sorry if I've offended anyone.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 04:47 PM
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Second class citizens are easy to hate and abuse though. I wouldn't like or agree with that for sure, but I can see why you would think that's better. I'm sorry to hear about those women who hurt you, that really sucks.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 04:22 PM
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It's ok if the mods remove my post, though I would prefer if they remove it based on the rules they have on the sidebar... I would prefer if they keep my post too, but not because of chivalry and gynocentrism, but because I'm really not trolling. Hard to prove, I know. Sorry you feel that way.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 04:18 PM
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Yes, validation -- I do admit, that's something I did expect out of posting. I did also expect backlash. I would have liked your validation, but again, I understand if you still think I'm bullshitting. I don't require it from you to continue what I'm doing, however.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 04:16 PM
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It's not bullshit, and I know I can't prove it to you.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 04:10 PM
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I'm not saying you should? I'm just saying please, not all of us are like that, please give us a chance to prove ourselves. Knowing also that it's okay not to want to give that as it is entirely up to you as you say.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 03:58 PM
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I see what you mean.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 03:57 PM
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I'm actually lucky in that I don't need a man to mooch off of (I have an inheritance though I will probably squander due to mismanagement) and have a job that pays well. I am also with someone now and he was the one who opened my eyes to mens rights and the failings of feminism. I am working on myself and my personality, I'm not sure how it comes across to you on my post and what I need to work on, but I'd be happy to clarify. I guess a lot of people think I'm faking, and that's understandable. …
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 03:56 PM
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Yes I do not have any right, I understand. It was just a plea, people are free to ignore it and continue on.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 03:49 PM
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I wouldn't for jelly beans (um ... confession: never had a jelly bean before) I can't think of my favourite candy just now, but I'd probably approach the problem differently. Like. toss the jar in a tub, put on a mask, hose the thing down. Jelly bean easy peasy (though I probably wouldn't eat it because... shit). This is actually a lot easier than finding and separating jelly beans from their poisonous lookalikes.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 03:47 PM
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Yes. I think feminism , while hurting men in their crazy crusade, actually hurts women more. Sometimes they're about empowering, but from a victim's ... perspective...? So it's nice to be a victim and get support, and ... become equal? It's a lot of mental gymnastics for sure. I am glad that you don't hate women, less hate in the world is better.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 03:46 PM
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I agree I will most likely NOT be alone because of that double standard, but I'd probably be likely to end up with someone who would mistreat me (knowing I wouldn't leave them due to not wanting to be alone). And I also agree that this nothing compared to what men go through. I've done my research man, I know men suffer more despite what feminists claim. But please try to see where I'm coming from. Not all men are violent rapists, not all women are cunty selfish fuckholes, not all white people a…
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 03:44 PM
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I'm not convincing you that the jar isn't really poisonous though --- sorry if it came across that way. Maybe I didn't really make it clear enough in my post, but I am part of the "yeah feminism is cancer" , and also "not all women are feminists". So to use your analogy, I would be saying "Please don't throw away the jar. There's a jelly bean in there that's good enough. I want everyone to enjoy jelly beans. Let's devise some tests to separate each jelly bean and figure out if it's poisonous or …
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 03:38 PM
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That ... that's even more upsetting actually. Toxic. More men seeing womens' true nature and opting out doesn't scare me, it saddens me (especially because I do believe it's true that women, at least in NA, are fucking ridiculous about relationships and marriages and all the problems I've seen here). What actually scares me is being alone. In any case, like I said in my post, thanks for reading, even if you disagree.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 03:36 PM
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"Women suffer more" was what I got when I tried this.
/r/MensRights04/12/14 12:59 AM
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Thanks for the link. It's going to be kind of hard to evaluate both sides but I'll do my best.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 06:06 PM
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Sorry, don't mean to sound ignorant. I'm quite far away from the US, but came somewhat closer up north for further studies. We don't study gender or race issues in my country. It's kind of ... forbidden. Coming to a western society where you could freely research, discuss without too much repercussions is nice. Except, you know, when you meet people who proceed to punish you for thinking a certain way by denying you their friendship, heh. I agree as well, I mean, everyone knows that raping is a …
/r/MensRights16/11/13 06:04 PM
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Misogyny isn't discrimination against women, I think? it's hatred. I think their idea here is this: women dress provocatively = gets raped = gets told it's their fault men dress like women = gets beat up/ raped = gets told it's their fault therefore society hates women or women-like men
/r/MensRights16/11/13 05:56 PM
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Their answer to that is more feminism, probably, but I don't think that's the answer.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 05:00 AM
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Wait, what?
/r/MensRights16/11/13 12:11 AM
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I ... don't know. I feel like the feminism movement is so powerful in that sense, that to question feminism is like an automatic "Um, you don't really wanna hang out with her, she doesn't think feminism is a good thing" and to the people like me, or at least who I was before I discovered men's issues/men's rights, I would have probably agreed and be less courteous to someone like that. Or I'm just being negative, you're right, I can probably find some better friends.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 11:00 PM
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I just watched your Feminism and the Disposable Man, and I feel so incredibly sad, and maybe its because I'm already sad that I lost 3 friends over this, but it's very upsetting that men aren't valued in that sense. I assume then that the feminists would argue that men "are" valuable because people pay men more/ hire more men/ defer to men...? I don't even know how they can push aside this one. I really don't.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 10:56 PM
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Thanks for the kind words :)
/r/MensRights15/11/13 10:38 PM
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Are you the girlwriteswhat video poster who people have been suggsting that I check out her videos if I'm new to men's rights issues? Back to the topic at hand, I'm afraid a lot of what you said is lost on me because a) no idea who Jim Crow is (I will look it up) b) Obama isn't our leader (I don't check up too much US politics unless it's the elections, but I thought Obama was okay.) The "proof" given to me from them was that society is inherently misogynistic is that men can't go out dressed in…
/r/MensRights15/11/13 08:44 PM
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Actually, the guy in the story asked for a civil discussion with no personal insults as he does not think that the discussion can proceed anywhere with those, so it's half-tone-policing maybe? I probably should have mentioned that last part
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:49 PM
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I do think it's ridiculous, at the same time I'm not sure if it's infantile. It's kind of like not wanting to be friends with someone who think rape is a good thing, you know. Except as I keep telling myself. I'm not a bad person for wanting to see that feminism (or SOME SORT OF GROUP OUT THERE) is handling men's issues instead of blindly insisting that because men are in power they obviously don't have issues
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:46 PM
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According to them, the idea of humanism is appealing but presupposes that we're all on equal footing, with is a logical fallacy in and of itself. Direct quote. Don't ask them to explain that or anything, really, since we're no longer on talking terms.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:45 PM
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Thank you so much for your advice and clean analysis of the situation. I'm not really siding an MRM, or anything yet, I only know that I don't want to step into the feminism side of things right now because I don't trust that they can talk about men's issues without refocusing on to women's issues just yet. And thank you for reminding me that the few friends I have left now are really true friends.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:43 PM
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I'll think about doing that, but I don't know. I'm still very hurt that they would throw it away in the first place..
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:39 PM
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"Almost everyone agrees, that modern feminism focuses almost entirely on the problems of women" (Not sure how to quote someone, sorry! New to Reddit) After the discussion I had with them yesterday which led to them defriending me, it appears that there are just some people who don't believe this is so. (I know you said almost everyone, but I'm just mad.)
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:34 PM
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I am getting a lot of the hurt and hurt and angry, though admittedly I have not done much reading on the feminism side. What do you mean by DV laws? Is that a US thing?
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:11 PM
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I understand that anger isn't necessarily bad. Some men's rights (and women's rights) movement do seem to promote hatred though, which is a concern...
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:09 PM
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I really wish I could have proven you wrong. I really did. I started the discussion tentatively, wanting to know more about the issue, wanting to be able to speak my mind without being attacked the way that other guy was attacked. They said yes, of course. And last night, I lost 3 friends, just like that. They turned their backs on me just like you said.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:06 PM
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Reading about different ways of thinking of things tend to make my brain go @_@ but I'll give it a try, thank you.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:04 PM
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They don't respect me, so they don't really need me. "Once you have done your research then we will be able to have an intelligent conversation." (And then when I pointed out that they just referred to me as not being intelligent enough/ not saying things enough to be considered intelligent conversation they said I was unable to take criticism.) I don't think they need me. I certainly don't need them. I thought about trying to maintain the relationship (they were the ones who said no, you're not…
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:03 PM
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It wasn't even that I didn't support their ideology, they've never ever preached it to me, not once. I never had a stand before. I only became more aware of men's issues, and in an effort to learn more, did ask them about it (admittedly, coming from a view point of "guys! this is horrible! I didn't know we were doing this to men! is feminism doing anything about it?") It's the fact that not even 2 days of this awareness coming to light that my opinions are SO vile to the point where it's impossi…
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:01 PM
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No, as mentioned above, they did throw sources and statistics at me. I just seem to be hearing different studies though. Like women get paid less than men! But no, if you equal out the ranks women actually get paid more! No, that doesn't count because those women chose not to have children or a husband which is why they earn more but it's still bad! And the whole false rape/false abuse accusation, I brought it up and was given links to show that those false cases are a very small percentage of t…
/r/MensRights15/11/13 06:58 PM
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Again, I don't feel like I'm a bad person. I raised legitimate questions and got no answers. I concluded that feminism was not acting as a voice for men (hah). Instead I got labelled the complete opposite of reason and compassion. I'm not even upset that 5 years of friendship is just gone like that. I'm upset because they think I'm a bad person to be around, when I'm clearly NOT promoting hate speech towards women or men. Like, seriously. What.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 05:49 PM
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I really wanted to prove you wrong. I really did. Except tonight, three friends whom I thought would disagree yet still be friends with me accused me of siding with misogyny, accused me of being racist and sexist, when I asked a very simple question: Is there a Feminism group that has DONE something for men's rights/men's issues?
/r/MensRights15/11/13 06:28 AM
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Thanks, I'll check it out.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 03:20 AM
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Thanks man, I'll check it out.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 03:19 AM
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They just seem to insist that men don't have issues, because men is in power.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 03:19 AM
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I'm glad to know I'm not alone, hopefully my knowledge in mens rights/feminism rights will contribute to overcoming that feeling. I feel like I've got a lot to go through though. The idea that men can get raped as well is very mind-boggling to me and it's upsetting to know that someone out there was falsely accused of something and their life has been ruined. I think a lot of the overwhelming feeling is being upset that my good friends are part of a movement that doesn't seem to be addressing is…
/r/MensRights14/11/13 09:25 PM
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Thanks, I didn't realize I had already picked a side. (Well, I started out not sure and somehow towards the end of my post already made a decision that I didn't realize? Not sure how that's possible) I'll try to take a step back and do more reading starting with your post. I'm sure if I had looked properly I would have found it. Again, overwhelmed!
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:59 PM
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Just the fact that this bot exists BOTHERS ME EVEN MORE. WHAT.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:30 PM
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