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fat men and women deserve better than idiots telling them it's good to be fat. bullying them is wrong but they should be given advice on how to lose weight instead of relishing obesity.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 08:14 PM
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They are pretty much the same thing, except instead of you being forced to use your body for a baby, you are forced to use your body for the government. Granting the right of bodily autonomy on the basis of sex seems kind of sexist to me.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 08:13 PM
6

go outside, for your own sake
/r/MensRights25/06/22 06:00 PM
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way I see it the abortion ban is just a topping on this financial shit pizza. but it's definitely not the cause.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:53 PM
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more related to other problems than abortion
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:44 PM
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put domestic abuser amber heard in jail
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:39 PM
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incel is just a buzzword for "someone who has an opinion I don't like." most people using the word are just ugly cunts who nobody would fuck anyway so it don't matter.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:38 PM
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nothing bad about you for being fat but being fat isn't exactly a good thing
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:36 PM
0

cry about it
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:34 PM
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will be offset by rising population and more workers filling the gaps
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:33 PM
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both
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:29 PM
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Think you'll find a large % of people opposed to the draft as well. Why do we still have one then? The power lies in the people. Clearly there are many in favour of the draft and those that "oppose it" don't act against it. If I saw a fraction of the anti-draft sentiment on my tl as I did for the roe v wade news, I'd believe you but it's just radio silence. And I don't know about you, but I'd rather donate a kidney than be used as cannon fodder. Getting shot doesn't sound too pleasant.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:26 PM
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collectively paying a little more in taxes is a preferable alternative to one person having to contribute a lopsided amount of money
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:20 PM
0

tbh nobody does anyway so what's gonna change
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:14 PM
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idk, the government has had the right to use your body as cannon fodder for war if you are an adult male, for what, the last 80 years? where's the "bodily autonomy" crowd at?
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:10 PM
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🤡
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:02 PM
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go back to two x chromosomes cunt
/r/MensRights25/06/22 03:00 AM
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Agreed. Disappointed in all the childkillers in this thread.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 02:57 AM
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Don't see it happening. Democrats will appeal to their demographics and their main demographics would never agree to male reproductive rights.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 02:54 AM
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facts. roe v wade being overturned was good for equality of the sexes.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 02:46 AM
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no uterus no opinion unfortunately, so idgaf.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 02:42 AM
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trolls will say anything nowadays lmao. even lie about SA.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 02:34 AM
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Then go do these protests without blaming an entire gender for the issue and saying stupid shit like "men have never known what it's like to have their bodily autonomy taken from them."
/r/MensRights17/01/22 11:18 PM
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In terms of childbirth, men's choice to terminate their responsibilities. In terms of bodily autonomy, infant males' choice to keep their own genitals intact. And men's choice to not have to die in a battlefield if there is a war just cuz the govt said so. It affects me because these dipshits decided to declare bodily autonomy as a gendered issue, these violations of bodily autonomy that I have faced/may face in the future have faded into obscurity.
/r/MensRights13/01/22 02:35 PM
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It matters because it highlights the glaring inconsistency of pro-choice activists when it comes to men's choices.
/r/MensRights12/01/22 01:08 AM
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statistically they are tho
/r/MensRights10/01/22 08:04 PM
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that's the real wage gap
/r/MensRights10/01/22 03:36 AM
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new zealand finland im not a history nerd. did cleopetra ever go to war? if so, then her too.
/r/MensRights10/01/22 03:30 AM
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fuck nbc
/r/MensRights10/01/22 03:26 AM
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it is a basic human right. I'm just saying that by technicality it is equality if nobody has basic human rights. not advocating for that of course just bringing that up to counter the narrative that it is an inequality rather than simply a human rights issue.
/r/MensRights08/01/22 06:29 PM
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Which means you are arguing with me for literally nothing. Go pick a fight with the people that conducted this research. I'm just here to provide the commentary and keep track of these.
/r/MensRights07/01/22 12:45 AM
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So they have more time to develop a strong bond with these children and still end up being more likely to kill them? Jesus.
/r/MensRights07/01/22 12:42 AM
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It's "Women more aggressive to partners than men" not "women are more likely to be perpetrators." But if it was, it'd prove my point more.
/r/MensRights07/01/22 12:38 AM
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Twice as much though? Two-parent households are the most common household in the states.
/r/MensRights07/01/22 12:37 AM
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you say hundreds of sources aren't relevant but they are. If we were talking about victims, it would be. But today we are not talking about victims, or even perpetrators for that matter. We are talking about aggression. bringing up female aggression then saying it is more common than male aggression IS ignoring male violence. you are not just bringing up female aggression here. you are implying it happens more often than male. and it does not. Argue the source.
/r/MensRights07/01/22 12:34 AM
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they kill more children in general. the infanticide rates are just much higher for them.
/r/MensRights07/01/22 12:32 AM
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this is not actually true. How so? they ignore male violence cause it doesn't fit their agenda. So bringing up female aggression is ignoring male violence? You're deranged, get some help.
/r/MensRights07/01/22 12:29 AM
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Are you talking about infanticide? Women commit way more infaticide than men. Double, even.
/r/MensRights07/01/22 12:28 AM
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raising awareness helps convince the open minded. the true open minded are far and few however, and most people are very much entrenched in whatever media they consume or whatever values they have been taught. It's just human nature to mimic the higher entities around you. It doesn't always have a super firm grasp on us but for the most part, we aren't going to budge from years of gaslighting. There's a reason there are so many self proclaimed "conservatives" in the modern political discussion. …
/r/MensRights06/01/22 08:21 PM
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I would post a copypasta about "real feminists" but I'm guessing you've seen it a few times. These feminists aren't any less real just because you don't want them to be. It's a really privileged position to be in really, to decree them fake and unworthy of attention. It's easy to block someone on twitter but it's rather difficult to block sexist legislation without any significant political power. It's easy to ignore a subreddit but it's hard not to look at censorship that feminists partake in a…
/r/MensRights06/01/22 07:50 PM
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You can raise awareness all you want but nothing will change if mentality doesn't change.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 07:35 PM
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It's mocked but the mocking is not stopping anyone from advocating for their basic human rights. However, for whatever reason, people are using incels as an excuse to not advocate for men's rights. It's not because they don't like incels, it's because they disagree with the very concept of men's rights. I'd rather have pieces of shit advocate for human rights than to drive them out to please people who don't really care about men's issues either way.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 06:27 PM
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There are women in the MRA movement too The ratio is much smaller however
/r/MensRights06/01/22 06:25 PM
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A man didn't choose to be a man but a feminist made the conscious decision to align themselves with a hate movement.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 06:24 PM
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Honestly, slut shaming kind of has a basis. Virgin shaming, however, just feels like insecure people bringing others down. I don't really care what people decide to do with their sex lives, but I think virgin shaming is definitely worse.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 05:45 PM
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Only because it calls itself that. If the KKK called itself a racial equality movement, would you believe them?
/r/MensRights06/01/22 05:38 PM
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Doesn't matter. Feminism is full of people complaining about air conditioning being sexist. That doesn't stop people from advocating for women's rights. It's clear people hate the concept more than they hate the movement if redditors and involuntary celibates are the reason they won't advocate for literal human rights.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 05:28 PM
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Feminism in it's earliest was pretty much half men lmao. The suffragettes? A lot of them were men.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 05:23 PM
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We have been talking about it for 13 years and it hasn't budged at all. It's gone far past ignorance.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 05:23 PM
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Your comment ironically shows why. You're throwing such a hissy fit over someone denying racism in the prison system but you've never done the same for the denial of sexism in prison system. Hell you've probably even trolled a person who has called out sexism in the prison system. They are slack jaws because they lack consistency. It's so easy to just say "yes the system is also misandrist." But if they can't even do the bare minimum, and respond with silence, they very likely do not believe the…
/r/MensRights06/01/22 05:19 PM
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Maybe they're just fed up with the abuse. Abused women have done the same.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 05:09 PM
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lesbian couples exhibit the highest rates of domestic violence. when we're talking about perpetrators, the "hundreds of sources" aren't as relevant.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 05:08 PM
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The impossible challenge
/r/MensRights06/01/22 05:06 PM
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If people aren't going to listen to genuine humans rights issues because of a couple of annoying dudes on the internet, were they really ever worth the trouble?
/r/MensRights06/01/22 05:06 PM
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Wish the men here would do that too but they still need to grow a pair
/r/MensRights06/01/22 05:02 PM
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It's incel ideology, but genderswapped. It's funny, they are what they hate. Makes sense though considering that it's the butch lesbian feminists that hate men the most.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 04:58 PM
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The patriarchy, by its actual definition, exists in places, but it doesn't really mean anything for gender equality except access to positions of power. The patriarchy, by feminism's original definition of it, does not exist, pretty much anywhere.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 04:56 PM
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right and most people chopping up clitorises are women. guess fgm doesn't exist then.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 04:53 PM
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Islam>>>
/r/MensRights06/01/22 04:51 PM
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its amazing. even with their manipulation of the statistics, it's still very clear it's a male issue.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 04:44 PM
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I think it's worse actually. When they know but still don't care. That's malice, which is far worse than ignorance or naivety.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 04:40 PM
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equality entails a lot of things they aren't fond of so I don't think they support us
/r/MensRights06/01/22 04:34 PM
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Given the extreme lacking of any reproductive rights for men it begs the question whether abortion being illegal is equality or not.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 04:32 PM
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I think the hate is more than deserved. If, after all the shit feminism has flung at the very concept of men's rights, "toxic masculinity" is the best they can do, the hate is warranted.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 04:26 PM
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It's why I vote for less taxes honestly. I'm through with this shit among all the other things I saw today on this subreddit. The world is filled to the brim with misandry from entities more powerful than people alone. So the only act of defiance I can do is just keep what's mine.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 04:17 PM
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more efficient to solve the men's issue aspect. if men don't suffer from it, black men don't suffer from it. if black men don't suffer from it, other men may still suffer from it.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 04:14 PM
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It's more than just news outlets, it's a way of thinking. I said this in an earlier comment but if there was ever a situation where it had been only teenage girls dying you know very well there would be a lot of initiatives to "reduce violence against women" anywhere from schools to workplaces and all over the media. It's clearly one gender being 100% more likely to die here though so where are the initiatives to protect the ones that really need the most? Where are the "end violence against men…
/r/MensRights01/01/22 05:55 PM
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Your denial of a patriarchy is absurd. Nearly every position of power, both large and small, is held by men. Via a democracy on the basis of politics. Not a patriarchy.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 04:46 AM
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Men are graded more harshly in school for the same reason that they are penalized more harshly by our justice system. No, this is not a eon old phenomenon, this is relatively new and it it's proposed roots are far from higher expectations. In fact, they are touted to come from lower expectations of behaviour. Not every instance of misandry can be squeezed into the box that is the "patriarchy." Before the rise of feminism, was it not men getting extremely favoured in education? How is it so that …
/r/MensRights01/01/22 01:15 AM
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Yes, that covers a handful of the issues, but it's a very limited approach to gender equality that does not cover the vast expanse that it truly is. There's far more sexism against men than simply the expectation of stoicism and providing. How would you attribute a 20% grading bias against boys in education to this patriarchy model, without making a huge stretch of logic akin to conspiracy theorists? Thing is, it has nothing to do with breadwinners or stoicism, it's just straight up misandry. It…
/r/MensRights31/12/21 07:08 PM
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bro if you swapped the genders this would be a national tragedy.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 07:02 PM
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Specifically what struggles?
/r/MensRights31/12/21 03:26 PM
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And to address all of these things simultaneously is the belief of egalitarianism. However, is the perspective of having to "raise" one and only one to the level of the other really equality in your eyes?
/r/MensRights31/12/21 05:36 AM
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All I had to do was look up the dictionary definition, and under some definitions we don't live in one, and under some we arguably do. But none of them have anything to do with "fierce individuals that act on their own merits and should be harshly punished and judged for deviating from social expectations." The parent I take the last name of doesn't have anything to do with this at all. and the reality that we live in a society that’s been established, run by, and governed by men for a millennia…
/r/MensRights31/12/21 05:34 AM
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cultural leftism, excluding feminism.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 05:27 AM
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it's NEVER the case where men have no rights compared to women Singapore? Not "no rights" but it's quite lopsided.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:46 AM
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it's legal to rape men in the UK, if you're a woman at least. I'd say that's a little more concerning given the UK is one of the most developed nations.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:45 AM
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I did a quick google search and I see a lot of studies showing that they lose eggs year by year. Not that I particularly care but it seems like a fact-based opinion to have. Either way, it is what it is and there should be no reason to be mad at men for having preferences.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:42 AM
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Feminists will find it next to impossible to portray Erin Pizzey as a misogynist Where there's a will, there's a way. I've talked to one that made up excuses as to why she's a misogynist.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:40 AM
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Thing is, I'm pretty sold on the "women are more violent but their violence amounts to less train." Reciprocal DV basically means you started the shit and got hit and came out worse from it and half of female DV is reciprocal. It's definitely not a hot take.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:39 AM
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feminism is it's own thing that shifts its economical position based on what aligns with their goals at the moment. It all depends on the situation.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:37 AM
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You can have multiple positions across the spectrum of politics. You don't have to assign yourself to just one side.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:35 AM
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Only reason I'm center is because I still believe in certain aspects of leftism despite going further and further right.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:35 AM
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what do you think equality is?
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:32 AM
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patriarchy this patriarchy that. what even is a patriarchy? because a democracy that allows women to vote and run for office is certainly not one.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:31 AM
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It's not ragebait. Women literally cannot be charged with rape in many places, and even in places where it is more gender-neutral, it's still lacking some critical aspects. And besides, even if it was ragebait, it'd be nothing compared to the ragebait that the wage gap is.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:29 AM
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when you're so bad you're good
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:26 AM
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Yes, most feminists are feminists because they want whatever they think is equality. But what they think is equality, may not actually be equality. You feel me? Say there were two groups. Group A and group B. Group A has 2 laws discriminating against them. Group B has 2 different laws discriminating against them. I'm from Group B, and an avid supporter of Group B rights. From what I know and have experienced, Group B faces all the legal discrimination on the basis of groups. And, tired of being …
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:24 AM
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It has simultaneously caused harm, however, to the goal of this "masculism." If "masculism" were to reflect feminism in the sense that it would act in the direction of empower males while bringing down females, the way feminism empowers females while bringing down males, what would that leave us with? Nothing.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:13 AM
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The question is not whether you are "for equality" or not. Rather, "what does it mean to be 'for equality'?" The way I see it, even the mildest of feminists, the most reasonable sounding, aren't really "for equality," granted they hold the feminist perspective of equality. This feminist perspective being that women are disadvantaged to men and must be raised to their level. Doing so would make the genders equal. I think that's pretty bullshit. This sub has oodles and oodles of proof that equalit…
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:10 AM
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I mean, there's probably a reason that lesbian couples have the highest rates of domestic violence.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:02 AM
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This one from america shows that when only talking SEVERE domestic violence, women are FAR more often the victims. Did...did you even read anything OP said? Like yeah, no shit. A woman punching a man usually doesn't amount to much but a man punching a woman is quite catastrophic, at least physically. Doesn't change who the perpetrator was though.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 02:01 AM
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education does not replace the security that personal protection does in the slightest. you can tell that serial killer to not to kill but I'd take my chances carrying a gun.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 01:59 AM
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is it really an obligation though?
/r/MensRights31/12/21 01:57 AM
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why specify crazy religious belief for women getting mutilated but not the same for men?
/r/MensRights31/12/21 01:56 AM
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It saddens me that Americans care so much less about their own brothers than their sisters from afar. Of course it's important to care about both, but if there's atrocities going on in your own damn home, shouldn't you focus on fixing those first?
/r/MensRights31/12/21 01:54 AM
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The myth is women get paid less for the same work. The reality is that women on average, make less than men but it does not take into account the fact that men and women dominate different positions that have different average wages.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 01:48 AM
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Why don't you go and tell a serial killer that killing people is bad. Should stop him right?
/r/MensRights31/12/21 01:46 AM
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disney's feminist movies are awful. they've caught lightning in a bottle but it's usually not like that.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 01:38 AM
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you sound like a crazed lunatic who found a computer. just let it go man lmao. why does our existence hurt your feelings so much?
/r/MensRights31/12/21 01:22 AM
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"I got banned by your incel mods. Lol. But no, you haven’t put time into proving me wrong, cause I’m not actually wrong. Everything i said is factual. It’s funny though, you keep saying you don’t want to waste your time on me. Yet you keep doing that. You spend more time talking around why you won’t dispute what i’m saying, than it would take you to dispute it. You don’t have a way to dispute it(clearly), so you just keep making excuses and repeating how wrong am i. It’s kind of funny to see. If…
/r/MensRights29/12/21 05:42 PM
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You wanna try reading his sentence again?
/r/MensRights29/12/21 04:45 PM
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Bro get a life
/r/MensRights29/12/21 04:42 PM
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being a man isn't a choice, being a feminist is. men are needed to uphold a lot of society, feminists? I mean, are they really good for anything besides eating up tax dollars?
/r/MensRights29/12/21 04:39 PM
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I disagree man. But it's matter of opinion on who you think is reflective of the greater feminist movement. But in my eyes, it doesn't matter, there are no feminists for true egalitarianism. Because the perspective is fundamentally flawed. All the feminists that have actually been able to open their eyes and discover both perspectives of egalitarianism no longer call themselves feminist.
/r/MensRights29/12/21 04:36 PM
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No, just that none of them are actually for equality. So not all of them are toxic feminists but none of them are real feminists according to you.
/r/MensRights29/12/21 04:14 PM
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It's not our responsibility to fix the bad feminists, it's these self-proclaimed "good ones" to call them out and reject them from the movement. But they don't. At best, they let it slide, at worst they partake in the hate. But all of them agree with the hate, even if it's just a little. How can you not, when you are fed so much misinformation about how good men supposedly have it? It may come from a place of envy, it may come from a place of resentment, or bitterness, but it's there. And that's…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/21 05:55 AM
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I swear it's always the feminist types that are the most racist towards us, even more than the hardcore racists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/21 05:36 AM
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Hatred is the only language they speak
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/21 05:34 AM
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Depends on what you value in life the most. I'd say no pressure if you don't want to. It's your choice to do what makes you happy.
/r/MensRights29/12/21 05:24 AM
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Women were treated like children but expected to do so much more. Chores? Yeah kids have to do that. Taking care of children. Alright, very niche, but it's not rare for the older sibling to assume a parental role. But in any case, their lack of liberation did not restrict the freedom of mind, nor did it restrict the possibility of them developing beliefs of their own and passing it down to their children, which they have full control over the development of. Really, according to your logic, nobo…
/r/MensRights29/12/21 05:22 AM
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Personally, I would not. It would seem ridiculous to berate the entire male gender for a 100 years and then suddenly reimpose such backwards beliefs on them.
/r/MensRights29/12/21 05:15 AM
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No you misconstrue the point im trying to make. I'm saying that they are free thinkers, and thus not chained to the thought policing of the men they are subservient. That means they are more than capable passing down backwards beliefs of their own. Stop infantilizing them, they are more than capable of being sexist of their own accord.
/r/MensRights29/12/21 12:59 AM
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lmao mans so desperate to "own the incels" that he made a whole ass alt. you got some issues fr.
/r/MensRights29/12/21 12:47 AM
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Or maybe, just maybe, people have free will and aren't robots that do whatever they are programmed to do?
/r/MensRights28/12/21 11:31 PM
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And how did they come to that conclusion? Some divine intervention?
/r/MensRights28/12/21 11:23 PM
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I can read fiction as well. It doesn't tell me anything about what's actually happening in the world.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 11:23 PM
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Yeah you deleted that pervy comment because you have no backbone. No, it's usually the male feminist types that end up being the rapists and pedos. Desperately trying to sneak their way into pussy.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 11:21 PM
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And how would you know anything about my sex life? Do you know me in person? Do you stalk me?
/r/MensRights28/12/21 11:19 PM
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Don't act like you wouldn't do the same
/r/MensRights28/12/21 11:17 PM
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I develop software. I don't know nearly as much about vaccines compared to biologists and chemists and I don't pretend to, unlike you. And it's alright to question them, nobody should have blind faith in anything. But I'm going to take their word on this one. I've had 3 relatives die of the virus. Covid is not a joke and yet there's still dipshits like you who are anti-vax. I don't give a damn if you're a dentist, that doesn't make you an expert on these kinds of things. And it certainly doesn't…
/r/MensRights28/12/21 11:17 PM
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So how did feminism come to be? Surely under such circumstances, progressiveness would be impossible, no?
/r/MensRights28/12/21 11:06 PM
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patriarchal ideas my ass. those are just the consequences of a gynocentric society. If you want to see a real patriarchy, go to saudi arabia.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 11:06 PM
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Not to mention high pay wages compared to women Yeah no, we get paid the same for the same job. We just are more likely to have higher paying jobs. It's 100% ragebait, this wage gap thing.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 11:03 PM
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kinda embarrassing ngl
/r/MensRights28/12/21 07:33 PM
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That's all you got from all this?
/r/MensRights28/12/21 07:22 PM
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Fair enough
/r/MensRights28/12/21 07:22 PM
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there's a lotta overlap between the two
/r/MensRights28/12/21 07:21 PM
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they are not a slur but they certainly naive if they aren't malicious.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 07:20 PM
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I'm not sure how they have the audacity to claim they are for men when they literally hate on men every passing second.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 07:16 PM
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I used to be leftist but I'm slowly moving more and more right. Shit's getting out hand. The entire left hates men at this point and honestly, I'll just take the best I can get which is less taxes.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 07:13 PM
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how did he lose the argument? the upvotes and downvotes? if they did the same argument here then he would get all the upvotes. Would that mean he would have won?
/r/MensRights28/12/21 07:12 PM
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Nobody asked
/r/MensRights28/12/21 07:09 PM
1

Are men suddenly not able to rape other men?
/r/MensRights28/12/21 07:08 PM
2

You frequent witchesvspatriarchy, you of all people should not be badmouthing a subreddit.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 07:06 PM
1

Yes, useful degrees do. And that isn't most of them.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 06:56 PM
1

tax the rich and give those taxes to the dirt poor. not the middle class that it privileged enough to take a gender studies class. there are way more people that need the money than entitled feminist students.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 06:55 PM
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Fr fr. Took an entire course on hating men and now you want them to pay your fees. Gtfo here with that bullshit. I'd gladly pay taxes for students taking an actual course that actually benefits society. Liberal gender furry arts? That does the opposite.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 06:54 PM
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I wont blame the movement for the problems. I'll blame the movement for spawning idiots like you that hinder efforts to solve these problems. Feminism didn't invent sexism but its sure as hell upholding it. And stop bitching about those pay wages. No fucking shit y'all get paid less on average when gasp y'all choose lower paying jobs on average. That's not sexism it's common sense and logical reasoning.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 06:49 PM
2

Yeah they're normally way too out of shape to leave their couch. Going to be a tall task for them to kill any man.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 06:41 PM
2

there will be no feminism in a time of critical collapse just as there was no feminism on the titanic.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 06:35 PM
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No, women were in charge of raising the children back then. They passed down these beliefs, not the men who had little to do with raising their children.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 06:33 PM
1

Toxic feminism is still feminism. And it makes up the majority of it as well.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 06:19 PM
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equality
/r/MensRights28/12/21 06:15 PM
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I can. None of them exist anymore though. I wonder why.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 06:14 PM
2

that's actually closer to equality. women don't get convicted for rape at all.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 06:12 PM
1

Unfortunately that’s not what this sub is about. Cut the BS. You just can't handle your narrative being challenged. This sub constantly raises awareness of legitimate gender equality issues and yet buffoons like you go "hurr durr incels." You aren't half as smart as you think you are. You're a fucking dentist. Being good with your hands doesn't make you a genius.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 06:10 PM
2

You literally have two insults. The ever creative "incel" and the incredibly witty "low iq."
/r/MensRights28/12/21 05:49 PM
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The post said women have more to be scared of when walking alone at night. They obviously do. How the hell do you know? Are you some kind of mind reader?
/r/MensRights28/12/21 05:47 PM
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Bro just do yourself a favour and shut the fuck up. You're literally an anti-vaxxer and a pervert. We may be "incels," but you're a fucking rapist in the making.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 05:46 PM
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"Muh both sides suffer" Lmfao, misogyny is nothing today. It's all "Air conditioning is sexist" and bullshit like that. Come back when there is a female only conscription or when women receive worse vaccines because of their gender.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 04:58 PM
5

well shit man then feminism doesn't exist according to you
/r/MensRights28/12/21 04:44 PM
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Imagine about reddit saying it's "always the girl's fault," when the opposite in true in the fucking courts, that mean jailtime. Great priorities.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 04:26 PM
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I see
/r/MensRights23/12/21 08:38 PM
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I feel like religion in particular is very damaging when tainted. Reason I'm not an athiest nor do I call out religions is because I know how important faith is to some people's lives. Some people have literally no glimmer of light in their lives except for faith and prayers. It's something people can hold onto in times of crisis. But now you have assholes using it for hatred and terrorism, and suddenly there's a stigma around your faith. Suddenly it becomes persecuted because of presumptions. A…
/r/MensRights23/12/21 08:02 PM
1

Really I think Religion gets really tainted by people who misinterpret the holy books. I saw someone say something once along the lines of "to the people who avoid saying "oh my god" to not use the lord's name in vein, saying stuff like that isn't using the lord's name in vein, using religion as an excuse for hatred is." I thought that was pretty moving. So many use Religion as this scapegoat for their evil acts and it's tainted the concept a lot.
/r/MensRights23/12/21 07:22 PM
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You ever play Control? Two of the most significant characters (main character and the person who assigns you missions) are female, but there was never a shred of misandry in the game. Never a shred of feminist bullshit. Just good gameplay and alright storytelling. Game was really well-done and I have a lot of nice things to say about it. Proves you don't need to be super woke to make a good, selling game with a female lead.
/r/MensRights23/12/21 06:16 PM
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Why should they ever have to fight for their rights? Because everyone else did? Why should you just get handed something because of your gender?
/r/MensRights23/12/21 06:10 PM
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Maybe if we started to vote properly instead of feeding feminist institutions all the power. Women make up the majority of voters but a lot of people don't vote anyway. We can do this, we just need to vote for people who care about us.
/r/MensRights23/12/21 06:03 PM
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Apparently it's a feminist thing too now. Incredible isn't, how pretty much the entire left is anti-christian traditionalism but one leftist movement in particular shares so many similarities with it.
/r/MensRights23/12/21 05:55 PM
1

self-defense is assault?
/r/MensRights23/12/21 05:52 PM
2

what goes around comes around. only a matter of time.
/r/MensRights23/12/21 05:50 PM
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I did not know judges and juries had the ability to read minds
/r/MensRights23/12/21 05:48 PM
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legally no but in a time of like, severe crisis, the draft will arrive one way or another.
/r/MensRights23/12/21 05:48 PM
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then answer it yourself
/r/MensRights23/12/21 05:43 PM
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we say this loosely. when we say women legally can't commit rape we say that they can't without the use of, say, a strap-on. because rape is worded as forced penetration in the UK, not unwanted intercourse.
/r/MensRights23/12/21 05:43 PM
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I don't really give a damn about female protagonists in the media. I've read plenty of books with female characters and honestly, it doesn't bother me. However, some of these books try to shove feminist bullshit down your throat and that's when I put them down. Same with video games. I did the misandry checker for all my games, a few which have female protagonists and none of them had misandry in it. So it is possible to make an enjoyable book, movie, game with a female protagonist without alien…
/r/MensRights23/12/21 05:39 PM
1

Dear TRAs, I love you
/r/MensRights23/12/21 05:28 PM
1

The only AOC that scientifically makes sense is 25 for the reasons I listed above. Obviously nutjobs exist in all ages but 25 is when the brain fully matures. And I think that will greatly solve problems of parenting, which are the cause of a lot of greater problems in society today.
/r/MensRights23/12/21 05:24 PM
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Oh, why not to 30, so the person has enough life experience, my dear puritan friend? Because there is no scientific basis behind it. Why, when people turn the exact age of 18 years old do we suddenly decide to radically change their standards? And why specifically 18? The age of 25, logically, and scientifically, makes more sense. And a lot of problems today are caused by bad parenting and single parents. This mostly is prevalent within younger, more immature couples, who lack the stability to s…
/r/MensRights22/12/21 01:59 AM
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I'm not discriminatory towards transgender people I'm discriminatory towards idiots like you, who can't get laid and hate all men because of it. Fucking incel.
/r/MensRights21/12/21 06:53 PM
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The hell are you trying to get at by saying that? Obviously it's not a competition but are we not allowed to point out the double standard?
/r/MensRights21/12/21 06:52 PM
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Expected. Feminists are rather salty about trans rights exposing critical flaws in the system.
/r/MensRights21/12/21 06:48 PM
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they are women but they aren't cisgender women. some people just prefer cisgender women. it's very simple.
/r/MensRights21/12/21 05:50 PM
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Yeah involuntary celibate. You want sex but like I said, nobody wants chopped dick so you accuse them of "hate crimes" and come here to bitch about it. Stop having such a persecution fetish. Repeat with me, people are allowed to have preferences. That doesn't make them transphobic, no more than not dating their same sex makes them homophobic. I'm not gay, so is it homophobic if I don't want to fuck guys? Because according to your logic, it is homophobic. I'm all for trans rights man. If surgery …
/r/MensRights21/12/21 04:42 PM
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not everything I view is objective but some certainly are. unless of course, you want to get super philosophical, in which I'm not going to respond.
/r/MensRights21/12/21 03:23 PM
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There is not a single place he will get a better answer, because other places are either misinformed or super biased the other way.
/r/MensRights21/12/21 05:15 AM
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No I think scientifically it should be raised to 25, when the brain fully matures. If you think about it, it would solve a lot of society's problems.
/r/MensRights21/12/21 05:11 AM
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I don't care about what it's supposed to be. It isn't. End of discussion.
/r/MensRights21/12/21 05:09 AM
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two of the top level comments are all links to reliable studies and sources. It doesn't get more genuine than that.
/r/MensRights21/12/21 05:07 AM
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there is no "view" of this. it's objective. there is a right and wrong answer and OP is right.
/r/MensRights21/12/21 04:58 AM
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I'm sure the people who don't want dick don't want chopped up dick either. Just move on lmao. Stop being such a frustrated incel.
/r/MensRights20/12/21 06:02 PM
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Cry me a river. Some people just don't want dick. It's simple. It's not a hate crime, it's just a reasonable preference.
/r/MensRights20/12/21 03:52 PM
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No doubt about that. Equality is not a zero sum game intrinsically but it can become one very easily depending on what is being done and how it is being done.
/r/MensRights20/12/21 03:52 AM
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I don't even think it's genuine. It's never about helping men for the sake of helping men, it's about helping certain men so they don't beat the shit out of women. That's great but like, it's not men's advocacy. It's just two birds one stone.
/r/MensRights20/12/21 02:24 AM
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I think you need to see past it. The whole "men's mental health" thing is a complete marketing thing. They use to trivialise male advocacy by painting it as the only men's rights issue.
/r/MensRights20/12/21 02:01 AM
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100% the opposite lmao. Feminists would even throw women under the bus if they advocated for men.
/r/MensRights20/12/21 02:00 AM
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It's not our problem though. Men have done a shitload for women's rights that they didn't need to do. How tf can people still be complaining? It's not like feminists have ever done anything for men besides direct unbridled hatred towards them.
/r/MensRights20/12/21 01:53 AM
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they have one right now too
/r/MensRights20/12/21 01:51 AM
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Would you rather be hired for your gender or end up homeless because you can't pay the bills?
/r/MensRights20/12/21 01:49 AM
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What's good
/r/MensRights19/12/21 05:55 PM
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And I'm the president of the United States.
/r/MensRights19/12/21 03:21 PM
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The irony of you calling people incels. Bro people not dating you isn't a hate crime lmao. People are allowed to have preferences.
/r/MensRights19/12/21 03:20 PM
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You cannot fight for equality by only fighting for one side. I'm not the one you need to tell this too. It's the millions of feminists in the world that need to hear this. If you're going to waste your time shitting on fringe movements instead of calling the ones with real power, then you were never for equality in the first place. In fact, you shouldn't even talk about "seeing both sides" when you make ignorant statements like "it is hard for some men, white people, or straight people to unders…
/r/MensRights19/12/21 05:29 AM
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Well look at you, crying about people who cry. Pathetic. I'm sure your dad would be proud of the brave and honourable work you're doing here, fighting the monstrous incels who want to steal your rights.
/r/MensRights19/12/21 01:04 AM
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I think the disappearance of woke culture makes it far easier to stand up the traditionalists though.
/r/MensRights19/12/21 12:59 AM
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If one wanted to they could argue And that right there is the problem. Just arguing for the sake of arguing instead of actually helping those who need the help. Which is basically this whole "two sides" thing. It's a pointless technicality.
/r/MensRights19/12/21 12:59 AM
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Videos don't matter, just check the statistics.
/r/MensRights19/12/21 12:58 AM
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Don't care. Stop being a whiny bitch and move on.
/r/MensRights19/12/21 12:57 AM
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Just man up and deal with it
/r/MensRights19/12/21 12:54 AM
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Have you ever seen anyone raise the argument that the disproportionate catcalling against women is because men are stereo-typically found to be less attractive? Try making that argument to a wide variety of groups and ideologies, including feminism, and report back what you find. I guarantee you, it's a world of ridicule. And I agree, it's a stupid argument deserving ridicule. It might hold some truth but it is way more of a misogyny thing than a misandry thing. So trying to make things they cle…
/r/MensRights18/12/21 09:54 PM
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I don't care about flipping it on a technicality. It's by far one of the most annoying arguments I have ever heard, second to the "men are doing it to themselves" argument. It doesn't matter what the technicalities are, it matters who's suffering the worst from it. Look man, I get it, women don't get drafted because they are seen as a weak, but at the end of the day, I'd rather not end up dying in a battlefield even if it meant people I don't even know saw me as "weak." Why is it so difficult fo…
/r/MensRights18/12/21 09:36 PM
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the difference between cops targeting men and women is far bigger than the white vs black comparison. Police brutality is a sexism issue first and foremost.
/r/MensRights18/12/21 09:34 PM
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I disagree with both you and OP. I think no woman has equality because no man has equality either. So not even the white woman is equal to her male counterpart. But I reason it's because she is treated quite favourably in many situations as opposed to the white man or POC man.
/r/MensRights18/12/21 09:23 PM
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In general, I find it's easier to draw the ire of other people if you are a guy. Also a lot of unfair expectations and double standards when it comes to physical assignments. That's just a couple "on a daily basis." The sexism that men face far succeeds simple daily transgressions. Institutional systems are insanely biased against men and boys.
/r/MensRights18/12/21 09:22 PM
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Nah you been trolling this sub for "a years and years." You've probably never done a shred of actual activism in your life. Only complain about people who complain.
/r/MensRights18/12/21 09:18 PM
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To go back in time would be go to the time that men were sent to death in droves with the majority of the population not even believing that we have emotions Still applies, just that there's no war at the moment. Feminism hasn't advanced shit. Technological advancements are why it's easier to be a man in the 21st century than to be a man in 20th century.
/r/MensRights18/12/21 09:16 PM
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actual important issues (albeit in a way that comes off accusatory and exclusionary) Good luck finding such "issues."
/r/MensRights18/12/21 09:15 PM
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It's not stereotyping. Men are literally biologically stronger. A woman who works out will be stronger than a man who doesn't, but if they both did the same amount of work, barring disability, the man is probably stronger. However, even though they are different, I think they should be treated equally. A man did not choose to be a man nor a woman choose to be a woman, and collectivism on the basis of sexism is barbaric. However, feminism is not about equality. It is the antithesis of equality. R…
/r/MensRights18/12/21 09:08 PM
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woke is not being hypersensitive to gender, sexuality, and racial issues. It's being a fat misandrist piece of shit while pretending to care about minorities and the LGBT community.
/r/MensRights18/12/21 09:03 PM
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I'd take this "fearmongering" over the worldwide ragebait that idiots call the "wage gap."
/r/MensRights18/12/21 09:00 PM
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He doesn't sound bitter to me. If anything, you sound bitter that men only date young women.
/r/MensRights18/12/21 08:58 PM
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tough. just move on.
/r/MensRights18/12/21 08:56 PM
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no women have equal rights. what do you think equal means? having more rights than someone?
/r/MensRights18/12/21 08:55 PM
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total rape apologist
/r/MensRights18/12/21 08:53 PM
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How do you suppose we tackle the root when the thorn that is woke culture protects it?
/r/MensRights18/12/21 08:52 PM
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it is hard for some men, white people, or straight people to understand what is unequal if you do not experience inequality on a daily basis. Bro men experience even more inequality than women on a daily basis. Tired of this nonsensical narrative pushed by feminists that men don't face inequality or have trivial issues. You can take your wokeness and shove it.
/r/MensRights18/12/21 08:50 PM
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I feel like because of BLM, it's hard to talk about the gender disparities of police brutality and sentencing bias, which tend to be higher than racial disparities.
/r/MensRights18/12/21 08:48 PM
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literally never has been the case and likely never will be
/r/MensRights18/12/21 08:43 PM
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tell her "but too many women"
/r/MensRights18/12/21 08:38 PM
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Why are you talking about me lmfao. You know nothing about me. As for OP, like I said earlier, is it really his job? If he's the breadwinner of the household, the significant other needs to pick up the slack and contribute equally. Doing work that amounts to what a child can do is not contributing equally. Deadweights aren't efficient.
/r/AntiFeminists15/12/21 01:10 AM
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All of these things you have listed has become so easy with advancements in technology. A goddamn child can do the laundry. And like I said, unless you're making an overly complicated five star meal, cooking is not that difficult.
/r/AntiFeminists15/12/21 12:01 AM
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Not if it's one of the few jobs in the relationship that you have. I mean, if I can cook and work for myself, cooking for a "demanding husband" shouldn't be too hard if he's paying all the bills.
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 11:59 PM
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They do have the cushy role lmao.
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 08:17 PM
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Because I do it? It's really not that difficult unless you're trying to make some five star meal.
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 08:16 PM
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Doesn't need to be that way lmao. There was a time where all that misandrist nonsense was unpopular.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 12:30 PM
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And the man should have the last word on what's being bought because it's his money.
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 02:25 AM
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Apology accepted. I'd like to apologize too for being a neckbeard incel misogynist for thinking that a husband should be able to have some choice over the meals being prepared since he works so hard to keep their, not just her, family financially afloat.
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 02:12 AM
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Did I upset you?
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 02:05 AM
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His money, his choice.
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 02:03 AM
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I wonder who's money she used
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 02:01 AM
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Is she? Because I wonder who's supplying the ingredients for said food.
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 01:59 AM
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He can, but it's not his job.
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 01:54 AM
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right, it takes less
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 01:09 AM
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right because cooking is soooo difficult
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 01:08 AM
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What do you think conservative values are? Upholding the status quo? If that's the case, feminists are quite conservative, regressive even, when it comes men's rights progress.
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 01:04 AM
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OP is fine in my book. Dysphoria has very little to do with uneducated perceptions of the other sex's experience and more of a personal issue with your own body. It's the reply that's braindead.
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 12:55 AM
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For example being hired because of a quota is very reductive, it means that you are hired just because you are a woman and not for your skills. You rather not get hired at all?
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 12:53 AM
3

pro-abortion
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 12:52 AM
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It's less the exclusion of men and more the silencing of male advocacy, in more ways than one. If they just left us alone and let us progress towards our side of equality, I wouldn't care about it as much but it's managed to make male advocacy a very taboo topic that you have to tread carefully when discussing. Can't say something too outlandish or step out of line or you're an incel misogynist. Very counterproductive towards actual equality. Furthermore, there's a lot of misinformation and rage…
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 12:47 AM
2

Ironically, at least half of domestic violence on women is reciprocal so....
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/21 12:13 AM
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encompasses male rights as well When pigs fly.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 11:47 PM
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real life is not any better, people are just more dishonest with their views. I still encounter the same talking points from feminists.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 11:43 PM
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just say they were birthed by a woman
/r/MensRights13/12/21 11:34 PM
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Why would I hang out in misandrist spaces?
/r/MensRights13/12/21 08:00 PM
1

Americans don't need an incentive
/r/MensRights13/12/21 07:59 PM
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I don’t live in a country that has that policy, dumbass. Then don't talk about something you don't know about dumbass. All young men and women of a given fitness can be recruited to the military, regardless of their ability to meet the criteria Once again, they are not going to draft a couch potato, and they don't draft women. Personally, I think they should take a gender-blind approach. That way they draft the able-bodied persons of both genders. If it happens to be mostly men, then so be it, b…
/r/MensRights13/12/21 02:57 AM
2

Equality of opportunity is not weird. Forced equality of outcome is weird.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 02:53 AM
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But if you asked 1000 feminists if they agreed, 990 feminists say no. Source?
/r/MensRights13/12/21 01:12 AM
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people on this subreddit know more about feminism than you will ever, because they actually took the time to find the bad and the ugly, instead of just looking at the good.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 01:11 AM
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these are literally all from the same subreddit that already breeds so much misogyny. lmfao i’m not even going to open these. then what tf are you doing here dumbass? All I hear is excuses.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 01:10 AM
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good for you. but if there is a member of the kkk who says they advocate for racial equality, should I believe the kkk is not a hate movement?
/r/MensRights13/12/21 01:09 AM
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Yeah they raise awareness on male-based hate crimes by committing the male-based hate crimes.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 01:07 AM
1

'turns women lesbian" Dunno what he said but there's deadass a branch of feminism called "lesbian feminism" which is pretty much straight women forcing themselves to be lesbian because of their hatred of men.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 01:06 AM
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they literally have an entire day dedicated to its banning
/r/MensRights13/12/21 01:00 AM
3

As a Jewish man circumcision is religious So is female circumcision, but that didn't matter.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 12:59 AM
2

Apparently it was started in the US because some scientist didn't want guys to jack off.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 12:57 AM
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There are debates within feminism all the time. None of which call out misandry. It's always stuff like "should we include POC?" or TERFs vs other feminists, but they never talk about their misandry. And when one of them do, the other 99% dehumanizes them.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 12:56 AM
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Is feminism so powerful that is has affected how all women think? Even the women that don't identify as feminists? Yes. Not the older generation, but definitely the impressionable ones.
/r/MensRights12/12/21 11:54 PM
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he's closer to proving his point than you are to disproving it
/r/MensRights12/12/21 11:52 PM
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no he deadasss hit the nail on the head. feminism's answer to everything is to blame men.
/r/MensRights12/12/21 11:49 PM
1

This sub wants women to be drafted in the name of equality. But demands the exact same testing the for the same military. That's literally equality you dumbass. Same standards. Holy shit do people even listen to themselves anymore? You want women to have to be drafted, but only if they meet the criteria? Yes, that's how a draft works. Do you really think they drafted 300 lbs couch potatos?
/r/MensRights12/12/21 11:45 PM
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don't waste your time arguing with this guy. he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
/r/MensRights12/12/21 11:39 PM
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so not caring makes them sexist? it's not really their problem.
/r/MensRights12/12/21 11:38 PM
1

you have to be careful in some places though iirc marriage obligations were placed on some couples because their relationship was long term.
/r/MensRights12/12/21 03:13 PM
1

I don't care what historically happened. And I don't care what genitals the rapists have. All I care is that it is boys who are being raped more often. If you're going to keep moving the goalposts, you aren't worth reasoning with.
/r/MensRights12/12/21 12:07 AM
1

It's deeper than a few disgruntled abuse victims mouthing off hateful shit. I don't even hate individual feminists. Just as a whole, there's a lot of gas-lighting and spreading misinformation that hinders men's rights progress.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 07:21 PM
1

Eh, I think there were still a lot of bad apples back then. It's just that a few had managed to truly find the meaning of equality, like RBG.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 06:55 PM
1

It's unfortunate but it's the nature of such things. When you ban incel spaces they will flock to places that share certain similar beliefs (ie antifeminism) but for different reasons. Personally, I myself am antifeminist because I think a lot of the things it does hinders equality but someone who is antifeminist because they hate women would try to associate with me even though we have two completely different ideologies.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 06:53 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/p8ou0e/we_now_have_proof_that_the_taliban_targets_men/
/r/MensRights11/12/21 06:51 PM
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You expect us to warm up to a movement that has been filled with misandrist misogynist garbage I don't
/r/MensRights11/12/21 06:50 PM
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very useful. thank you.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 04:19 PM
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no disagreement here
/r/MensRights11/12/21 04:15 PM
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are men's rights human rights?
/r/MensRights11/12/21 04:12 PM
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men's rights are human rights, and the reverse is also true
/r/MensRights11/12/21 04:11 PM
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the hell are they gonna do when people start pissing on the floor?
/r/MensRights11/12/21 04:09 PM
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Of course. Does that mean we should stop advocating for men's equality?
/r/MensRights11/12/21 04:06 PM
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you are right. it's not a fraud and it is a very real threat to equality.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 04:01 PM
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the stupid ass "no true Scotsman” thing How is it stupid? You expect us to warm up to a movement that has been filled with misandrist garbage just because of a few reddit posts? I'll pass thank you.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:58 PM
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if you live in canada vote conservative. it's pretty much centrist.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:51 PM
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just by being a dude my chances of getting mugged are significantly lower. wrong
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:49 PM
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agreed. instead, base this decision to never marry on a discriminatory system that puts you worse off because of marriage.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:46 PM
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it's true though, you won't win. it's a warning, warning you not to waste your time arguing.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:44 PM
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It's funny. People have been talking about gender inequality like only women suffer from it for a century but when men talk about their problems the discussion shifts to "it's not a competition." Well, screw that shit. We've had to put up with a 100 years of lies. Let the truth be told, which gender is truly the privileged one.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:42 PM
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the taliban rapes more boys and men than women and girls
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:36 PM
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yes even sharia law discriminates against men. because I'm pretty sure it is possible to discriminate against both women and men unless the former takes priority to you.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:35 PM
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they are more likely to be treated like dogshit their entire lives
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:33 PM
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bitch please, the government doesn't give two shits about men's bodily autonomy. they've kept the draft male-only for a century.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:31 PM
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illogical reasoning is why a lot of misandry exists
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:30 PM
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nobody needs to move aside for anyone. basic courtesy isn't legally mandated. but singling out a specific demographic? that's discrimination.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:18 PM
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If you held the door for people behind you, but you started to notice that of the people holding the door for YOU when you were behind THEM, women almost never did, would you consider not holding the door for women anymore? It's stupidity. It takes a special kind of victim complex to become an unmannered savage because something as trivial as holding a door or walking on the sidewalk.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:15 PM
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and they call us incels
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:07 PM
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feminism is conservative, when it comes to men's equality
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:04 PM
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agreed. I am not a huge fan of the feminists of old but at least there was silver lining back then.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 03:04 PM
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gender pay gap is a myth that keeps getting perpetuated and if one issue, that may not even be true, is the justification for misandry, then I don't know what to tell you.
/r/AntiFeminists11/12/21 02:59 PM
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you've never lived in a real patriarchy lmao. privileged ass.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 02:51 PM
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You're missing a key detail. They also tend not to draft the physically incompetent and send the physically capable to war. I don't see why we can't just keep that standard but gender neutral.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 02:48 PM
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after a war we probably would
/r/MensRights11/12/21 02:46 PM
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feminism is blind faith? 30 percent of the country isn't crazed lunatics that hate men. could be. country is seemingly ok with drafting their men and cutting their dicks off.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 02:39 PM
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there is nothing wrong with "real" feminism, except for the fact that it almost doesn't exist. It's never been consistent in it's proclaimed drive towards equality.
/r/MensRights04/12/21 09:17 PM
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Toxic Masculinity is a dogwhistle for misandry. From my experience at least, it's never used to foster actual discussion as to how issues can be solved. It's just used to derail from legitimate issues, make feminism look appealing (though it's done terribly at that), and to hide behind misandrist statements and takes. It's much like the term "patriarchy." Means whatever the hell you want it to mean.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 11:21 PM
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The most simultaneously hilarious and depressing thing in the world is how iffy certain people get whenever sexism against men is brought up. Like they wanna act like they're against it, but it makes them so uncomfortable they can't help but derail or talk about misogyny.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 11:16 PM
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You know what happened to give them these rights? WW1 What have MRA’s done for men? They've made shelters, provided resources, raised awareness of issues and given them a voice to advocate for their rights. What about you?
/r/MensRights03/12/21 09:21 PM
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First article reads like an opinion piece and vehemently denies legal rights that men lack. Despite this obvious bias, never directly stated Rodgers was a member of the MRM. "the Post was rated the least-credible major news outlet in New York" Yeah, "reputable." The third link even admits that calling Elliott an PUA based on his online activity is ridiculous. "Let’s be clear: None of this suggests that (a) the manosphere is somehow to blame for Rodger’s killing spree, (b) that other factors like…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 08:04 PM
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Gonna have to see it to believe it. But I wouldn't doubt a couple of them would go that far. Either way, my point still stands. Countries with 2 years mandatory conscription tend to have a strong anti-feminist presence, and for good reason.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:57 PM
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I never said mine was lmao. This entire sub is a litany of anecdotes by men who have been wronged in some way. ...who are seeking support. Their experiences aren't what swayed me to be anti-feminist, it's the shit I see on news articles and research papers.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:52 PM
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The kicker is, when it's always feminists that rally to shut down any source of men's advocacy outside of limited bursts, they are the enemy. I do not see conservatives try to shut us down. No doubt it's conservative thinking that upholds these issues but they've never attacked any of our programs or protests. Hell they even throw us a bone on television every now and then. I'm not saying we all become conservatives, but when you realize our natural enemy is treating us better than feminism, tha…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:49 PM
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Pass the original ERA, not the altered one. End gender-based discrimination in education. And stop prioritizing one gender over the other when it comes to domestic violence, emergencies, disaster, and rescuing.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:41 PM
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calling gender studies a pseudoscience is giving it too much credit.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:40 PM
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there's a term for that and it's called gender roles. the patriarchy is just some scapegoat feminism uses to lay the blame entirely on men.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:38 PM
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personal anecdotes don't mean anything
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:35 PM
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According to Elliott Rodgers. Has he ever actually called himself an MRA or advocated for men's rights in any way shape or form?
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:34 PM
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Were they?
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:27 PM
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I respectfully disagree. I see no reason to label the concept of "gender roles" under a gendered term like "patriarchy," as it implies men are solely to blame for them. Sure, they hold the majority of positions when it comes to political power. But there's an oversight not considered and it is the fact that women hold the majority of positions in educational institutions, especially in teaching. Often times, the educators have just as much, if not more power than elected officials because the un…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 03:03 AM
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Why do we call this "social structure" a patriarchy though? Out of all the names one can give something, why is patriarchy it?
/r/MensRights03/12/21 01:12 AM
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I don't need more than your first point. Yes, it is all about theorizing and testing theories and guesswork. Which is exactly why you shouldn't take everything at face value. You have to question, criticize, and break down findings. And for a field like sociology, there is little set in stone. But a "patriarchy", by definition, is something quite tangible.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 01:04 AM
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Post-secondary software development
/r/MensRights03/12/21 12:28 AM
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As in field or level?
/r/MensRights03/12/21 12:25 AM
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probably the weakest science out there. Don't mean to disrespect the field, but even a science like physics has a lot of unknowns, a lot of theorizing and guesswork.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 12:21 AM
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From my perspective, a dominant, unilateral view of gender imbalances is harmful to gender equality, especially when it is responsible for shutting down dissenting voices. My personal experiences with feminists don't matter much in the grand scheme of things, but the amount of nonsensical misinformation I hear get thrown around drives me mad, not because of the misinformation itself but because it creates prejudices against men's rights advocacy in general. I hear statements like "the judicial s…
/r/MensRights02/12/21 12:19 AM
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still isn't anywhere close to true lmao
/r/MensRights01/12/21 11:32 PM
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Honestly, I kinda wish it wasn't. This would have been an incredible rallying call for false rape accusation awareness and the backlash would unite us.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 11:31 PM
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bad faith or genuinely curious? because I've got a few dozen links.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 11:18 PM
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they aren't feminists. feminist misandry is a different kind.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 11:16 PM
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Most I see out of it and the lack of action against it is symbolism.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 11:12 PM
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the terms "conservative" and "progressive" are extremely variable and subject to change
/r/MensRights01/12/21 11:11 PM
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What's constitutes the title of "second class citizen?"
/r/MensRights01/12/21 11:10 PM
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literally no civil rights movement has ever succeeded without anger and at least a tad bit of violence. Even the beloved MLK was no saint.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 11:03 PM
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Like I said in your last post, people will see what they want to see. I open up this subreddit and see posts highlighting systematic misandry left and right with a couple of dating angst posts sprinkled in and quite a few anti-feminist posts. Why? I want to see the systematic misandry and the anti-feminist posts. I want to tune out the dating angst posts because I don't care about them. Likewise, these people don't care about systematic misandry or the flaws of feminism. They want to see misogyn…
/r/MensRights01/12/21 11:00 PM
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400 words is not equal to 16 years. 16 years is equal to 16 years.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 10:52 PM
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Was it the gun that killed you? Or the person who shot it?
/r/MensRights01/12/21 10:51 PM
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It's full of shit takes. Akin to the "homeless? just buy a house" argument. Obviously nobody should be hitting anybody, the whole argument is about self-defense. Bad stuff shouldn't happen but it happens and sometimes it's unavoidable.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 10:49 PM
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No shit. The most effective strategy to keep a movement down is to aggressively misunderstand it's talking points and paint your interpretation as what is.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 10:46 PM
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Korean men know what's up. 2 years mandatory conscription makes it very clear who is and isn't your friend.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 10:41 PM
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I think you guys need to try to actually address the issues you face instead of saying “what about men?” every time someone talks about feminism/women’s rights Do you just parrot everything you see on the internet? In what way, shape, or form was OP's post an example of saying "what about men"?
/r/MensRights01/12/21 10:41 PM
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This is what it would take to end the draft honestly.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 10:36 PM
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Beware of a societal system that has a poor track record of survival? Most people have a glorified picture of what a matriarchy is but really, it's just a patriarchy that treats its men like even more garbage. There's a reason there's so few of them.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 10:34 PM
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I don't really give a damn about what the average person thinks, I'm talking about you. Do you really think it's ethical and moral to disregard equality because a few people are sexist? Because damn, there's a layer of irony to be found if you call yourself a feminist.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 10:32 PM
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they don't want people to know they exist. because if people don't know, who's going to pressure them to put forth resources to save them?
/r/MensRights01/12/21 10:28 PM
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Think about this for a second. A post about the lack of women in IT with statistics presented in an infographic. I comment "I agree this needs to be solved but the problem is that misandrists have hijacked the movement and so it’s hard to advocate for it." Because it's just as true, if not more, than your statement, and since you're so keen on stalking profiles you'll find why. But how does that make me sound? A post that has absolutely nothing to do with feminism, just advocating for a change f…
/r/MensRights01/12/21 10:26 PM
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doesn't matter, if you're first reaction to seeing that infographic is "muh misogynists and incels" and not "oh my god, we need to fix this," then you are the problem.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 10:15 PM
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Specific nitpicks aren't anything to get pressed over
/r/MensRights01/12/21 07:42 PM
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A cow and a sheep both eat grass, but are they the same?
/r/MensRights01/12/21 07:40 PM
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I can be pro women's rights and pro men's rights, which I am, but with feminism, there's more to it than a simple definition. There is a reoccurring theme of misandry and open hostility towards any groups attempting to challenge it's monopoly on the topic of gender equality.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 01:55 AM
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Not mine, but the dictionary says it is equality of the sexes on the basis of women's rights. I think that's too limited and unilateral, and implies advocacy for men's rights is not needed to achieve equality.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 12:00 AM
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Nope
/r/MensRights30/11/21 09:20 PM
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Higher education looks at averages, so courses like English play an integral part in the possibility of a student making it to those institutions, regardless of the course they actually end up taking. Falling behind in math means president struggles thereafter. And lucky enough, Math is almost entirely dependant on your mathematical ability. It is incredibly difficult to affect a student's mark with bias in Mathematics because the nature of the subject does not leave much to opinion.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 09:18 PM
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Suppressing what? A suppression of statistics, findings, studies, and potential leads that challenge the worldview that only women face gender-based discrimination. A suppression of voices attempting to provide a different perspective. misleading 'facts' driven by representation bias, promoting the exception to imply a norm. Like? Also looks like men are a protected class when their transgressions are overlooked. Brett Kavanaugh comes to mind. I cannot tell if this ironic or not, but if it is, t…
/r/MensRights30/11/21 09:14 PM
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Just because the majority of reddit is based in the states does not mean there aren't third world men's rights issues.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 09:09 PM
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How so?
/r/MensRights30/11/21 09:04 PM
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No, not really, even if you use the dictionary definition. For example, you could be for equality of the sexes on the basis of men and women's rights, or equality of the sexes on the basis of liberation.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 09:03 PM
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OP did make a mistake not specifying region
/r/MensRights30/11/21 03:21 AM
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Really? Damn that's actually incredible to hear. Guess I'm a dubs fan now.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 12:03 AM
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Or, maybe you can make your questions clearer and representative of what you want to ask. It's a good skill to learn.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 11:47 PM
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The narrative that elevating women causes men harm doesn't make sense to me. It's not about the elevation, it's the simultaneous suppression of information via media and education. When you paint a picture from one perspective and it's the only picture of said thing, nobody will know what lies on the other side. I'm not attributing every problem to feminism (though some certainly have been their fault, like the duluth model), but feminism is responsible for the majority of the silencing of these…
/r/MensRights29/11/21 11:46 PM
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but I'm more worried about the thing that impacts all people - equal opportunity and achievement in primary education. Search up the 20% grading bias against boys. I think it explains everything else.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 11:21 PM
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Would you listen to a professional astrologer?
/r/MensRights29/11/21 11:18 PM
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Doesn't matter. I'm not every man. The upper hand I'm receiving is hardly affecting anyone on global scale.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 11:17 PM
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The dictionary definition? I'd like to think that it holds more authority than individual interpretations. It's not up to me to decide that the word "cat" suddenly means dog. The thing is, the whole idea of making certain assumptions about "patriarchies" is sexist. The whole notion of interchanging the word "patriarchy" with gender roles is sexist. Because it assumes men are inherently sexist, because they are men. The leader of my country having a penis isn't the reason sexism exists, it's a cu…
/r/MensRights29/11/21 11:03 PM
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not surprised
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:59 PM
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what would you say then to feminists who believe that men’s issues are real, but it’s not their job as feminists to advocate for them? would you be okay with that? I wouldn't care, if feminism didn't keep pushing itself as THE movement for gender egalitarianism and try to silence other movements.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:46 PM
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Well, I'm not too interested in what "some" call the patriarchy, I'm interested in actual definitions. A patriarchy does not fit the bill of most modern democracies because women are not restricted from running for positions of political power and women are able to vote. Could societal influences dictate the tendency to have male leaders? Probably, but this is a chicken or egg scenario and 9 times out of 10 the patriarchy is claimed to be the cause of gender roles, rather than the other way arou…
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:45 PM
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You're right. We're talking about something far more subjective, so of course I will tune out such absolute statements like dsorgen's.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:41 PM
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It's unlikely that the draft will be reinstated because a massive war in general is unlikely. This does not change the mentality that should things go south, your sons are now property of the state and liable to becoming cannon fodder.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:36 PM
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People talk more about Gender Pay Gap / Violence on women as compared to Suicide in Men / Violence on men. No, it's an interesting point. For pay gap vs suicide gap, it's eye-opening how much people will talk about something that doesn't really exist in comparison to something that kills. comparing problems women face (for being a woman) with the problems men face (for being a man) is like comparing sun and torch. This right here, this is why we need aggressive posts. Op, analyze your own biases…
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:33 PM
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It's used to describe a system where power is transferred to a succession of men. this is also untrue in most developed nations
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:27 PM
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No I definitely agree with the notion of gender roles, and societal influences shaping the outcome of someone's life on the basis of their gender, but to interchange with the term "patriarchy" is nonsensical and misandrist, and goes against the idea of gender equality.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:27 PM
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By definition, we don't live in a Patriarchy. At least in the states. The rest of your comment is just using "patriarchy" as a placeholder for "gender roles" which is a sexist belief.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:24 PM
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Good riddance, you won't be missed
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:22 PM
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Being individually successful means that you’re the group in charge? Almost self-aware. Almost.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:20 PM
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We're listening, but you can't tell me the sky is red and expect me to believe it.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:19 PM
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Definitions don't line up. The "patriarchy" is a scapegoat.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:16 PM
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He touched a nerve or two it seems
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:15 PM
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Sure women dominate higher education, and the majority of dropouts are male, but look! Math achievements!
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:11 PM
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Learn to read
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:08 PM
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I agree, it's a useless counterpoint to point out where feminism is failing to help women. Liberation does not come easily. What should be used as a counterpoint is the oodles upon oodles of harm it causes the vulnerable men of society and how it suppresses truths through media and education dominance.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 10:06 PM
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Eh, equality is equality. Take it or leave it.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 09:58 PM
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It's when you hear those "but" statements when you know that person is bullshitting you.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 09:56 PM
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Doesn't matter. It's far too easy to create another account and post something inflammatory on a subreddit you dislike and screenshot it. It doesn't matter if you're misogynistic or not, advocating for men's rights gets on the nerve of many who think men are some sort of "dominant class." It's an ideological issue and it's why anybody actually serious about advocating for equality should be anti-feminist. People will protest and say nonsense like "it helps men too" or "it's just a vocal minority…
/r/MensRights29/11/21 09:53 PM
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exactly. doesn't matter what you do, people will believe smear campaigns because people want to believe smear campaigns. they don't like it when their worldviews are challenged.
/r/MensRights29/11/21 09:42 PM
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I'm beyond saving? You have no life outside of reddit. Go touch some grass.
/r/MensRights28/11/21 01:40 AM
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both parties aren't going to do shit about that but one of them will say feel good stuff.
/r/MensRights27/11/21 05:13 PM
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That's not why lmao. Look at the downvotes. The reason it gets a bad name because there are people who frame stuff like these and apply to all of us, and sometimes the troll might just even be one of them trying to make us look bad.
/r/MensRights27/11/21 05:11 PM
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But too many women
/r/MensRights27/11/21 05:10 PM
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This is also just a faulty report, which is bad dont get me wrong but this has nothing to do with feminism Bruh faulty report? Lmao, it's the guidelines for the biggest feminist movement. How come it's only MRAs that have called it out? It's not faulty it's intentional lmao. These orgs don't have programs to help struggling men for that reason. If I say men do worse in school, that is a factual claim but also a generalization. Is there anything factual about you saying most women agree with you?…
/r/MensRights27/11/21 05:06 PM
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So I found the original article. It was a player named fred vanvleet. He said it was biased towards young white people and especially young white men. I don't think it's malicious but I think it's based in a different kind of ignorance that explains why men's activism is considered right wing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/21 04:43 PM
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Well I guess that's my issue then, is that you're he's adopting lazy usage of the terms, then presenting them back as concrete ideas in your his infographic. Is it really lazy though? Because most of the people I ask about "toxic masculinity" haven't a clue what it actually means, by the book. I'm not making a guess out of thin air what it might mean, I'm pinpointing a possible meaning based on the context it's used in multiple times by many people regarding different scenarios. And that definit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/21 04:38 AM
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Then how can it be a "comparitive analogy"? Because it is not the individual issues that are being compared, but rather who is doing the enforcement of these issues to who. traditional masculine performance What is "traditional masculine performance" defined as? Not seeking therapy? Where did that come about to be a traditional masculine practice? I'm genuinely curious about this, because I have seen a lot of gender roles but the therapy one doesn't really resonate with me or my experiences, or …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/21 02:57 AM
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There's no mirror version for women for being silent on their gendered trauma. There doesn't have to be. The gender based issues men and women face are hardly the same. But beneath it all is the same concept. Men enforcing sexism upon men and women enforcing sexism upon women. There is no "reason" behind the usage of the word "toxic masculinity" besides an extension of misandrist roots. It is far better, healthier, egalitarian, humane, and easier to understand if "internalized misandry" is used …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/21 02:12 AM
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Do you think anything has really changed? They shut down an IMD event not too long ago, and a mental health awareness meeting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/21 01:27 AM
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What do you expect them to do though? Like, when it comes to media representation, male advocacy is in a drought. There is a lot of desperation and that droplet of water from a right wing politician sometimes is enough to buy their favour.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/21 01:25 AM
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Agreed. The day we compromise and trickle down our values is the day we lose. It already has taken strenuous effort to get to where we are now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/21 01:20 AM
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Agreed. Fight with your vote. It may not be the best immediate result but eventually, if trends get noticed, it will force other parties to make changes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/21 01:15 AM
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It's pretty simple. The media that actually covers men's rights issues are more often than not conservative, and the faux progressive and popular left (virtue signallers or people who only follow trends) has established a clear position that women's rights = leftist and men's rights = right wing. You see it all the time. When they say cis straight white male they antagonize the "male." As a result, the right has sort of taken men's rights activism as one if it's own and that is why it is so succ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/21 01:12 AM
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It's all a smear attempt by the ones that wanna keep us down. Nobody wants the support the movement that "breeds terrorists," so they lump them in with us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/21 01:06 AM
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Of all the posts the brigading trolls decide to come out at once for, this is it? I love it man. At the end of the day, the most they care about is trivial shit.
/r/MensRights27/11/21 01:04 AM
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they can't help themselves. even when they are on the verge of realization, their clouded judgement prevents them from attaining true understanding.
/r/MensRights27/11/21 12:58 AM
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I take it your advocating on behalf of feminists and think their proposed "gender equality" really means equality. I have to wonder, what do you think of this?https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/qyv9hc/the_global_gender_gap_report/ I think you need to get out of here with that "patriarchy hurts men" bullshit. Even if it did, the people who are supposedly "fighting the patriarchy" aint doing jack about it.
/r/MensRights26/11/21 11:48 PM
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I wouldn't know, I've never lived in a patriarchy and I assume you haven't either unless you're 60.
/r/MensRights26/11/21 11:46 PM
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The link under this has nothing to do with gender norms How do you think they go about reducing these "gender gaps?" Do they just say, "be equal" and boom, the country becomes gender equal? Gender norms and gender inequality are irrevocably linked You the link has nothing to do with the UN Isn't the WEF a subset of the UN? I'm pretty sure they have some sort of partnership. I don't know, go search up UN gender equality or smth I'm pretty sure it has the same issue. Plus, even if it wasn't, there…
/r/MensRights26/11/21 11:42 PM
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wait when?
/r/MensRights26/11/21 11:02 PM
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We aren't mad about this lmao. Where the hell did you get that from? We are happy about this.
/r/MensRights26/11/21 10:59 PM
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problem is she did something amazing and then got her movie banned from countries and became the victim of a smear campaign. which the rest of her feminist colleagues were behind.
/r/MensRights26/11/21 10:58 PM
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Being vague? I think it's pretty simple and clear what he said. Oppose feminism? Misogynist. Regardless of what aspect or why.
/r/MensRights26/11/21 10:57 PM
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This was a horrible idea. Gender bias is unavoidable.
/r/MensRights26/11/21 10:55 PM
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If all of the kings had their queens on the throne...
/r/MensRights26/11/21 10:54 PM
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r/entertainment had a segment of "toxic masculinity" where they pretty much hid behind the term just to vent their pure hatred of men. r/mildyinfuriating had a post with a killallmen knife and the comments were trying to justify it. r/vancouver reacted very negatively when domestic violence statistics were posted, revealing eye opening info about violence on men. and this wasn't the "don't bring politics" kind of reaction or "what does this have to do with this sub" reaction. This was a feminist…
/r/MensRights26/11/21 10:52 PM
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It's probably a joke but nowadays it's hard to tell. I've seen shit said that's even more braindead and it was actually serious.
/r/MensRights26/11/21 10:49 PM
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Sadly, you don’t understand feminism as it was originally intended. I don't care what it was originally intended, it's not 1940 today. I believe in real egalitarianism, and have worked to achieve it via donations to men's domestic violence shelters and creating posters with statistics to raise awareness. The piece of rotten garbage that feminism today is not anywhere near egalitarian. If you want proof, just check what the global gender gap report considers "equality." Hint, men being disadvanta…
/r/MensRights26/11/21 07:42 PM
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What does this have to do with gender norms It has to do with feminism's failure to address gender norms that hurt men. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/qyv9hc/the_global_gender_gap_report/ Here. Also I made a mistake. It isn't one of the biggest "gender equality" initiatives, it is THE biggest initiative. Wat You generalized women when you said that they "women today try giving parental responsabilties over to men." It's misogynistic to assume that they all think the same…
/r/MensRights25/11/21 11:14 PM
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While I agree, there's a certain point where silence is no longer an option. With all that unwieldy influence, how difficult do you think it is for those with malicious intent to shut down any avenue of change? I think what comes around will go around, and there will be natural backlash, we just have to fight to make sure it stays on course.
/r/MensRights25/11/21 02:23 AM
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they can say sexually abused
/r/MensRights25/11/21 02:22 AM
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At least they had the decency to call it rape
/r/MensRights25/11/21 02:22 AM
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Listen to what? Listen to incoherent rambling about a pay gap that's been debunked countless times? I don't know why it's so difficult to understand that different professions have different wages.
/r/MensRights25/11/21 02:05 AM
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How is this a argument defeating my point? You derailed Because it's a feminist initiative. One of the biggest ones today. You know even if a feminist created this a hundered years ago this wouldn't disprove the fact that women today try giving parental responsabilties over to men. Nice generalization, misogynist. And if you meant to say feminist, nah feminists have been vehemently denying the existence of a bias against men in child custody. That's the reasoning they gave when they shut down me…
/r/MensRights24/11/21 10:41 PM
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No argument here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 09:49 PM
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Wanna know how feminism removes gender norms, by blurring gender roles for women. If something that was exclusivly for women to do in society but now its free for men to do due to the vacuum. In theory, that logic is fine, albeit a bit questionable. In practice, that's not what has been happening at all. I suggest you look at what the UN considers to be gender equality. (Hint: Women outliving men on average is considered "equal"). Conservatism believes in the tender years doctrine what the fuck …
/r/MensRights24/11/21 09:40 PM
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You wanna know a movement who removes gendernorms, giving men more ability to express themselfs. Not feminism. giving men more ability to express themselfs. Not feminism. Helping their mental health Not feminism. mitigating harm done by toxic masculinity and bad gender norms Yes feminism...only when it's women suffering from it. Its called conservatism and the notion that women are naturally more care giving. No, it's called the tender years doctrine. Conservatism is upholding the status quo but…
/r/MensRights24/11/21 09:20 PM
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Because the terms aren't interchangeable. I checked the definition of patriarchy, nowhere does it say "gender roles that harm both men and women," or even mention gender roles. I don't care about a religion-like interpretation of a word that has a very simple definition.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 09:16 PM
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And if there was zero misogyny there'd still be misandry. I think you're just afraid to call things what they are. Sexism, in any shape or form against men, anything that discriminates against men because of their gender, is misandry, not "patriarchy."
/r/MensRights24/11/21 09:14 PM
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Not a huge fan of Peterson, but the only reason people trash him is because he focuses on helping young men.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 09:10 PM
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I agree. Spreading ideas around your community will only do so much.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 09:07 PM
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yes. that choice is there because women have to be cautious of men. in general. isnt that the exact thing yourr so angry over? I don't care about someone being cautious. I do it all the time regardless. We all wear masks to stop a statistically low risk thing. But I will not stand for stereotyping. There's a fine line between being cautious and stereotyping and that's what some of you feminists need to understand. link doesnt rlly do anything for me except for talk abt white feminism which is ki…
/r/AntiFeminists24/11/21 09:05 PM
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Wish it'd change but with the current polarized political climate it's only going to get worse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 09:03 PM
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I gave you feminist's bad actions. Idgaf if they are men or women, as long as they are feminist they are an enemy of equality.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 09:02 PM
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If I was masochistic It'd help me. Unfortunately I'm not.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 09:02 PM
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Misandry IS causing them to receive less help or attention however. And if female trafficking is misogyny, male trafficking is misandry.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 09:00 PM
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Gender roles and human perception of women.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 08:59 PM
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are u just rrying to be ignorant or are u trolling? Was about to ask you the same women are doing all tjpse things becazse they have to be cautious of men in general Nobody says you have to. It's your choice whether you want to or not. now explaun how feminism, which fights for eqzality for everyine, is racist https://thefrisky.com/your-fave-is-problematic-white-suffragettes-were-very-fucking-racist/ Have a nice day, it's getting late here.
/r/AntiFeminists24/11/21 05:45 AM
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rgb is the exception to the rule
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 05:40 AM
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It's growing in an extremist right wing kinda way. Not faulting the men themselves but it's getting ridiculously easy for extremists to radicalize these men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 05:36 AM
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dude, are you stupid?? if youre a woman you cant walk alone outside at night, have to cover your drinks, share your location w friends, because those are things that can harm you ONLY for being a woman. women are at a higher risk just for their gender :)) Where are the laws saying you can't do these things? also comparing racism which oppresses people and feminism that fights oppression doesnt really make sense but oh well) Feminism is also super racist.
/r/AntiFeminists24/11/21 05:31 AM
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Nah but I don't generalize an entire gender or race based on the actions of a few. Poison candy analogy is trumper logic when it comes to immigrants.
/r/AntiFeminists24/11/21 05:21 AM
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You do. You have the right to vote.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 05:17 AM
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equal outcome? no, I'm against that. I'm an equal opportunity kinda guy.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 05:01 AM
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Yes, but I don't think most of the growth is aligning in the way this sub wants it too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 04:54 AM
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That's unfortunate. I guess I will be supporting no figureheads until light is shed on the misandry that feminism is jam packed with.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 04:49 AM
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Not yet they aren't.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 04:48 AM
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It's a dog-whistle. It's a dismissal of the issues men face that aren't about emotion under the guise of bringing awareness to men's issues. Especially when you look at how it's used.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 04:44 AM
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exactly. they say an eye for an eye makes the world blind but the best treatment for apathy is sometimes to show them what apathy feels like.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 04:38 AM
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teams of 10 for that though?
/r/MensRights24/11/21 04:37 AM
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You wanna go for equality instead of liberation? Yes. Could be liberation for all, could not be. But equality is the goal in my eyes.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 04:34 AM
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Ideologically I'm leftist. Doesn't mean I have to support figureheads.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 04:31 AM
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No the differences in reproductive labor are not equal. Women have to menstruate or take hormonal birth control for instance. Two words. Not mandatory. Still rather ballsy of certain people to create the institution of war, modeling it on their ways of being, then tell women we aren’t equal until we make ourselves a part of it. It’s not our fuck up. Do you think men and women are monolithic?
/r/MensRights24/11/21 04:26 AM
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Some people deserve to be brought down and name called. How tf did we go from naming nuance to solutions to problems? Of course I have solutions but that has nothing to do with the discussion we're having.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 04:25 AM
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I think you are just being intentionally obtuse and antagonistic. We are going around in circles because one of us is a dumbass, and I don't think it's me. Good day to you too though.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 04:16 AM
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Instead of just celebrating, they feel the need to bring men down. It's a shame.
/r/AntiFeminists24/11/21 03:54 AM
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Hmm, I take more issue with the final statement. I agree with him up to that. MRAs are some of the only people helping men and if ur going to make men's day dedicated to bashing them, that's pretty misandrist.
/r/AntiFeminists24/11/21 03:51 AM
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You're making a false equivalency. I'm not saying all men get conscripted, I'm just saying sexist discrimination against men, wherever it is, is a men's rights issue.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 03:50 AM
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if you have a bag of candy and you know a couple of them are poisoned, would you eat them? probably not So, should men be cautious of all women because they could be false accusers? it may not be all women, but if you have a bag of candy and you know a couple of them are poisoned, would you eat them?
/r/AntiFeminists24/11/21 03:48 AM
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lmao. when you say "all men," you mean all men. don't want people jumping in, don't say "all" men. it's simple, yet you dumb fucks still can't seem to understand that.
/r/AntiFeminists24/11/21 03:46 AM
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Idgaf about whatever is going on. Most of us don't. But when you say all men, you paint us all with the same brush, so of course we are going to take issue with that.
/r/AntiFeminists24/11/21 03:44 AM
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Ok. Say instead of dallas, it was 75 countries. would it be acceptable to say it then?
/r/MensRights24/11/21 03:41 AM
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use your head for a second, and consider the difference between outlawing something and forcing a procedure on someone.
/r/AntiFeminists24/11/21 03:37 AM
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You know times are tough when the Urban Dictionary is more knowledgeable about feminism than feminist scholars.
/r/AntiFeminists24/11/21 03:30 AM
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It's a women's issue in Saudia Arabia, so it's a women's issue.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 03:28 AM
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wait, when?
/r/AntiFeminists24/11/21 03:27 AM
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I'm aware but it does not affect you and it does not affect me so it is not a men issue it is a political issue in a region. LMAO. It is an issue that only affects certain men because they are men. It is absolutely a men issue. I don't like to use ad-hominem but if you can't understand that, you might just be a tad slow. Women in saudia arabia are super oppressed. Is it a women's rights issue, even if it only affects women in a select few regions?
/r/MensRights24/11/21 03:25 AM
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bro are you actually that inept? do you know what conscription is like around the world? it's not a piece of paper. it is two years mandatory serving in the military.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 03:18 AM
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Women’s service to society has been historically seen as giving birth to and raising children. That’s not changing. It is. Look at the birth rate of those countries that have male conscription. One common trend is extremely low birth rates. Thing with conscription is that it's mandatory, while childbirth is not. So the responsibilities are not equal. Rarely, if ever, have I seen governments arrest their women if they do not have children. They do it all the time for men who don't serve in milita…
/r/MensRights24/11/21 03:16 AM
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it affects every male living in the region that has the law, and will affect every male eventually in their lives if it has not already. and the root of laws like those is the societal view of male disposability, which affects men all around the globe.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 03:13 AM
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tchoukball I think it's called? anyway yeah, that's utter BS. if they are gonna do quotas they should adjust based on percentage between male competitors and female competitors.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 03:12 AM
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I'll apply it if I feel the root causes of these problems apply to all men. Where do you think these sexist laws come from? Governments don't just only decide to conscript their men for no reason.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 03:05 AM
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If that's what it takes, then I'm down for it. Of course not to that extreme, but we shouldn't be having such gendered laws like conscription.
/r/MensRights24/11/21 03:03 AM
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honestly I just hope it will expose extremely sexist laws. I don't really want trans activism to get devalued bcoz of this but it's just a favour.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 10:54 PM
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Are you saying women are incapable of destroying lives? How misogynistic of you u/Anti-misogynist235, a woman can do anything a man can.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 09:27 PM
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told us what? we're loving these trans rights things. go trans rights!
/r/MensRights23/11/21 09:20 PM
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LET'S GO
/r/MensRights23/11/21 09:18 PM
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peer-reviewed?
/r/MensRights23/11/21 09:14 PM
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amazing progressiveness netflix
/r/MensRights23/11/21 09:09 PM
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where do I start lmao
/r/MensRights23/11/21 09:08 PM
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Source?
/r/MensRights23/11/21 09:06 PM
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A bit of both imo but we'll never know for sure until we break down those gender-roles
/r/MensRights23/11/21 09:06 PM
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I agree, sexual human trafficking is probably more female than male. What my article showed is that the disparity, if further research is done, may show that there are far more boys and men than it may seem. I recall a very long time ago, something about a government source being called off from doing research when they found it was mostly boys suffering from something. It was something like that. It was a while ago but it has led me to be skeptical and inquisitive of sources, questioning how mu…
/r/MensRights23/11/21 08:21 PM
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Well, I think the patriarchy is what it says in the definitions. Either a society where men are appointed leadership roles for being men or a patrilineal family linage. However, I do not think the term "patriarchy" is interchangeable with "gender roles." I believe gender roles hurt both men and women, and are both misogynistic and misandrist. I think for the majority of both misogyny and misandry, the two are intertwined. However, I disagree with the notion that a "patriarchy," according to the …
/r/MensRights23/11/21 08:14 PM
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they literally are lmao. if you're going to preach feminism do it elsewhere.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 08:00 PM
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It's ordered chronologically dumbass. Anyway, you asked, I gave. But you need to get your head out of your ass.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 08:00 PM
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Why is it hard to understand you can benefit from a system that also has negative byproducts? Simply put, we don't agree on the definition of "patriarchy." Btw I love the contradictions at the end of comment. Cherry on top. Here's a citation (of citations) as to why I disagree. Will reply to rest tomorrow but it's getting late here. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/qr2ye4/study_male_sex_trafficking_and_human_trafficking/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/nt1hoh/gendercide_…
/r/MensRights23/11/21 03:40 AM
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Don't care much ab the thread but sometimes guys need a little reminder on what their enemy is.
/r/AntiFeminists23/11/21 02:35 AM
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It's ok. I understand. You don't want to spend time coming up with an answer when you don't have one. No problem.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 02:34 AM
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I'm moreso referring to the entire thread, trying to justify it.
/r/AntiFeminists23/11/21 02:26 AM
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You responded to my question with a question. At least answer it first before asking a response question to sound witty.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 02:25 AM
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Didn't answer my question lmao
/r/MensRights23/11/21 02:22 AM
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Yeah but I want them to elaborate. I want to see the method behind the madness. I'm pretty sure all of these trolls have rationales, be it simply daddy issues or misinformation. I wanna know which to either convince them to leave us alone or just rip apart everything they think they know.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 01:02 AM
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He's right though.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 12:27 AM
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I celebrated it like a normal person. Same reactions.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 12:26 AM
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We? I find it hard to hate something that doesn't really exist.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 12:24 AM
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justice? maybe, for women. unless of course, the perpetrator is also a woman. equality? oh hell nah. You've gotta be blind, deaf, dumb or all of the above to think that's true.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 12:14 AM
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Well to be honest many post here are far more focused on complain about the shortcomings of modern feminism And rightfully so. You can't move up if something is keeping you down, before you stop what's keeping you down.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 12:11 AM
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Again, this sort of opinion is why Men’s rights are seen as a red flag. 🤦‍♂️ By who? Who do you think is putting these "red flags" on the movement?
/r/MensRights23/11/21 12:09 AM
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Since you're such a genius, can you explain "what they're saying" to us cave-dwelling idiots?
/r/MensRights23/11/21 12:07 AM
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Save this post. Refer to it when anyone tries to BS by saying "feminism is for men too." People, especially men, need to understand that feminists aren't their friends.
/r/AntiFeminists23/11/21 12:03 AM
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And this right here, is why I'll never be a feminist. I can ignore the misandry, I can overlook the vast amount of flaws and inconsistencies, but this right here, this is why I'll never be a feminist. You hit the nail on the head. Equality doesn't mean equality anymore.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/21 12:00 AM
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I second this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/21 11:58 PM
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What have you been doing in this subreddit then? I don't mean it in an attacking way, it's just that I've seen you around a lot and we talk about more legal issues than just divorce. Men get 63% harsher crimes for the same sentence, and that's just one of many ways I think we get the short end of the stick. I think you and I are both anti-feminists, but for very different reasons lol. But hey, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I personally think we should do away with the whole traditional gen…
/r/MensRights22/11/21 11:57 PM
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That doesn't change anything he said. He said equality is needed, not feminism. He likes the idea of women and men being treated equally, not so much the sexist garbage that feminism tends to be.
/r/AntiFeminists22/11/21 11:19 PM
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Around an 80% chance that she is, taking into consideration survey results. So I think it's fair to make assumptions.
/r/AntiFeminists22/11/21 11:13 PM
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If you want it so bad, then here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9v6tqj/a_list_about_feminism_misandry_for_anyone_who/ Now you tell me why it ISN'T sexist.
/r/MensRights22/11/21 10:03 PM
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bro shut ur ass if your only purpose here is to defend feminism. you aren't doing shit either, so don't complain.
/r/MensRights22/11/21 10:00 PM
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lol every post about this kind of topic regarding men gets removed on that sub. btw https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/activists-join-chorus-against-gender-neutral-rape-laws/articleshow/18840879.cms
/r/MensRights22/11/21 09:41 PM
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It's not what about, it's "where's the consistency?"
/r/MensRights22/11/21 09:33 PM
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Of course they would
/r/MensRights22/11/21 09:31 PM
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Guarantee you these same people probably throw a hissy fit over the "misogyny" in this subreddit.
/r/MensRights22/11/21 09:25 PM
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And I think I can guarantee that neither of us are experts on the law. I know a couple of things like the draft and bodily integrity that aren't equal. Also domestic violence and assault laws and crime sentencing. Tax benefits as well. Lots of legal inequalities for men that I don't see get the limelight on by the media.
/r/MensRights22/11/21 01:08 AM
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those are not feminists. They got you the right to vote. I'm pretty sure they're feminists. Moreso than you'd ever be. search the definition on google and it will say feminism is about equality. what kind of equality? because the equality I see is an equality built on lies. I see manipulation of statistics to justify an overcorrection. I see people lied to about the privileges of being a man and it causing them to be filled with anger. I see a constant telling of one half of the story while igno…
/r/MensRights21/11/21 05:20 PM
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Lmao, a lot of women didn't even want the right to vote until the obligations of conscription were dropped. Also, no excuses for the white feather movement.
/r/AntiFeminists21/11/21 04:13 PM
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Well. Let me put it this way. I don’t think women need to fight for more rights in most western civilised countries .. they got everything it’s ridiculous to keep asking for more. Does that mean things are equal though? Because equality goes both ways.
/r/MensRights21/11/21 04:58 AM
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Honestly I didn't think it would happen at all. Seemed too far gone. Intersectionality was a cool idea but more often than not it seemed to be "shitting on men, now more diverse." But this shows that anyone and anything can change.
/r/MensRights20/11/21 07:15 PM
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For all your bitching about people resolving around the USA, you seem to be quite focused on it. Have you ever heard of singapore or south korea, or like literally any other asian country, and sweden and finland? I suggest you google their version of conscription.
/r/MensRights20/11/21 07:10 PM
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So we care more about the past than the present? Because in the present, there is a lot of struggles that men face simply for being men. (Of course that was true in the past as well, but it's pointless to get in a pissing match.) It's kinda disgusting honestly, that people use historical marginalisation that they likely never actually experienced to disregard marginalisation happening today and experienced by people today.
/r/MensRights20/11/21 07:05 PM
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The same way I know that most MRAs don't actually hate all women. Based on self-reporting polls, day-to-day interactions with people that fall into these categories, and the general backlash that people who put forth these ideas receive if they are serious about pushing this idea. You wouldn't know that either. Anyone can lie on a self-reporting poll and lie to someone in person. The only thing you would know is that ideologically, there is nothing in the MRM to suggest it is sexist. All the evi…
/r/MensRights20/11/21 05:41 PM
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Oh, so you can only be part of a movement if you claim to be part of it? Yeah, I'm pretty sure this or at least involved heavily in organized events by the movement. I'm also 99% sure Mr. Rodgers has done neither. There are many MRAs on this sub who issue misogynist diatribes much like Elliot Rodger’s manifesto. Ok? At least they didn't actually hurt anyone. It's identical to #killallmen feminists. And I don't care much for them either, just the double standard that bothers me. Frankly, I couldn…
/r/MensRights20/11/21 05:19 PM
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This alone isn't a concern. It's the coupling of the fact that there are so many in real life ready to pounce on whatever organized event comes forth from the men's rights movement. I don't care what you don't find as a cause for concern. Especially if you are blissfully unaware of the way feminists shut down discussion about male advocacy. And on the topic of ragebait, it does seem to work sometimes. I'd say it's worked out pretty well for feminism.
/r/MensRights20/11/21 04:28 PM
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How do you know they are a minority though? What evidence points towards that?
/r/MensRights19/11/21 10:07 PM
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Are you comparing a movement to a gender?
/r/MensRights19/11/21 08:26 PM
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I don't disagree but it is telling how people only say this after women were included in the draft.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 08:24 PM
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you didn't even make an argument. you just misread what he said and went off on a tangent.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 06:58 PM
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Shareholders aren't employees. They don't get paid a specific salary. They get portion of the total revenue.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 12:24 PM
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That's not why you aren't arguing with me. You aren't arguing with me because you're illiterate.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 12:23 PM
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This day will be the test. I'm going to analyse throughout the day if anyone talked about it, mentioned it, celebrated it, bashed it etc. I'm not going to intervene or start something, just going to observe if society has changed in a year. Hoping for a pleasant surprise but expecting nothing at best.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 03:42 AM
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think of the potential upsides though. why do you think companies paint a rainbow flag on their logos for a month and get rid of it immediately? it's all about the $$$ they get in the end, and in today's society, discriminating against men seems to be marketable to many.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 03:40 AM
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why would it become saudia arabia? like the combination of metoo and "neurotic stuff" would make the stark opposite of saudi.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 03:23 AM
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He's not being a misogynist but you're being a dumbass who can't read.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 03:20 AM
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he is not taking away anything. he's just expressing his right to not partake in any festivities.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 03:19 AM
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That's the problem with your logic though. Are they really digging their own graves? As far as I'm concerned they are laughing their way to the bank while the working class man struggles to afford basic life necessities. The shareholders and ceos always make way more money than the employees. You make the mistake of thinking men, or any identity, is monolithic. Which is weird. A five year old could likely understand that just because I'm brown and someone else is brown, doesn't mean that what ha…
/r/MensRights19/11/21 03:16 AM
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smear account likely. troll trying to get us banned.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 03:13 AM
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It's all media bullshit making a further divide. Couldn't care less what position you play in hockey, as long as we agree on one simple fact. Everyone should be treated equally regardless of their gender.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 03:12 AM
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probably not. I'll be damned if they do honestly.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 03:10 AM
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I wasn't aware men couldn't be sexist towards other men. I assume my pro-life mother who believes women belong as housewives isn't sexist towards women as well.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 03:09 AM
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OZ3HUVA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=iktnweb-21&linkId=25b6dae8537b762785db6883a2e72917&language=en_GB If you insist, but I really doubted you'd need a citation. I wouldn't make that outlandish of a claim with such conviction if there wasn't some basis to it. Has Elliott Rodgers actually ever claimed to be an MRA, or pro men's equality? As far as I'm concerned, it's mostly feminists trying to make leaps and stretches to link him to the mov…
/r/MensRights19/11/21 03:03 AM
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Analogy is not really sound. Like your interpretation would be grammatically incorrect whereas this interpretation is about what do they mean by "men's rights" philosophically which is why there are interpretations in the first place. It makes it hard to take anything said here seriously when so many people used zero critical thinking before jumping on the bandwagon. Honestly, wouldn't doubt you and the type of people who say stuff like this never took it seriously in the first place.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 01:38 AM
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probably saudi arabia or some shit like that. don't be fooled though, it doesn't magically make it a good place for men. they still face the same double standards when it comes to domestic violence, and sharia law is extremely sexist.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 07:32 PM
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Stop trying to act like some wise-cracker. I expected some thorough analysis of the links I presented. I expected deep examination and structural break down of those sources to prove your point that it is "biased misinformation." Instead, I get some clueless idiot rambling about paths and using pathos to convince me I'm wrong. I have, on one hand, extensive studies from reputable sources about men's issues. And on the other, I have some random dude on the internet who spends his time arguing wit…
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 07:24 PM
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It's only misinformation to you because you don't like what the information is saying.
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 12:25 PM
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Yes, I have. Echo chamber or not, what is is what is. If it takes an echo chamber to finally shed some light on all these issues, then so be it. But I love it, you run away when I start pulling out the stats and studies. Bye, and good night.
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 06:45 AM
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they are links to links. I just right click and press copy link adress. you don't need to read the comments. plus, some of them are from lwma.
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 06:40 AM
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Women, on average tend to be treated with less hostility than men. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/q1zohg/society_is_more_hostile_towards_men_than_women/ Women, on average tend to be viewed more favourably than men. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/q2mgzo/how_do_we_see_women/ I don't feel like typing but if want some links I got some links. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/qqkwp6/ten_ways_men_are_legally_socially_and/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftW…
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 06:35 AM
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there tends to be a lot more of them than MRAs.
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 06:25 AM
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There needs to be balance. The scales aren't tipped equally. Way more feminists than men's rights activists. So the equitable thing to do would be to defect to the MRM.
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 06:21 AM
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That's true. Google meets aren't good enough. Haven't had a LAN party in a while because of Covid.
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 06:18 AM
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Gender quality is my goal.
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 06:15 AM
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I think what you're missing, in the equation you are implying, is that while the income doubles, the cost to sustain also doubles, plus a little extra effort to keep things intact.
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 06:15 AM
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Should probably work part time elsewhere too then.
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 06:11 AM
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It's not always feasible for life to be "easier for everyone." such is the case of south korean conscription. you can make it gender equal, but good luck removing it when nk is your neighbour.
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 06:09 AM
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Yep. It's called trying to survive the 21st century. Inflation's a bitch.
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 06:07 AM
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men and women are advantaged and disadvantaged in different ways in society. everyone wants all the advantages but none of the disadvantages.
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 06:05 AM
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Neither. I'm not searching.
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 06:03 AM
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Bro, I don't lie about being married
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 06:01 AM
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nobody really wants actual gender equality. some come close, but deep down, nobody wants to lose the advantages they have. I see it in both sides.
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 06:01 AM
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in the best shape of his life wasting his time being petty on the internet. very interesting peak.
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 05:58 AM
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real gender equality is a very controversial view
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/21 05:56 AM
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and rightfully so. could you imagine if a woman talked about how she got raped by another woman and people disregarded her because "who is it that raped you?" so wrong. ugh.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 05:05 AM
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It's so funny, genderswapping certain arguments and seeing how weird they look.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 04:56 AM
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And I don't assume we will for a very long time. Hardly doubt 100 years of misandry is going to change in a few months.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 03:31 AM
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They commodified themselves, like literally. It's not even that ridiculous argument that a gender is monolithic. They literally signed up for it. And yes, I've been trolling you with feminist logic for the past few comments, waiting to see how long it'd take you to catch on.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 03:30 AM
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No, it doesn't. I could be a brown woman, and it would still affect me. I could be a white man, and it wouldn't affect me. CRT is not needed in the education system at all. All it does is open up the door for corrupt educators to further alienate children of demographics perceived as privileged, the male demographic being one of them.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 02:29 AM
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I'm literally a brown man myself. Yeah a racist policy affects me, but it is not because I'm a man but because I'm brown. Similarly, a sexist policy affects me but not because I'm brown but because I'm a man.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 01:54 AM
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There is a reason why men fail to embrace intersectionality and it is because intersectionality fails to embrace men.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 01:31 AM
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they do. by paying for their services. that's how capitalism works. I'm not really suggesting a way to reduce sex-obsession. I'm showing some of the harmful aspects of it.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 01:24 AM
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that's pretty much the extent of the discussion I see from all this "intersectionality" nonsense. Basically just making more excuses to bash men.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 01:19 AM
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privilege points?
/r/MensRights18/11/21 12:44 AM
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well, first wave feminists mailed bombs to people, and second wave feminists invented the duluth model. I wouldn't want to associate with them if I wasn't a terrorist who thought men can't be abused.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 12:44 AM
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it puts food on some of their plates. it really harms men though. sex-obsession is super harmful to someone's daily habits and health.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 12:42 AM
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I will try to find you this one experiment I saw. It was a month ago though, so be patient.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 12:42 AM
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boys being graded 20% harsher than girls by virtue of being male isn't verifiable evidence?
/r/MensRights18/11/21 12:39 AM
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No, there aren’t hordes of feminists on Reddit trying to strip away the rights of men. No, but there are hordes of them in real life counterprotesting men's rights protests, raiding men's mental health meetings, and shutting down events for IMD. But nah, it's totally just some internet boogeywoman. Not surprised a menslib user would have this blind spot.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 12:38 AM
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No, it benefits sex worker's pockets. Feminism is absolutely gynocentric. Arguments for society being gynocentric are debatable, but feminism, a movement literally made to advance women's position and lower men's (even in scenarios where men are at a lower position and women in a higher position, is absolutely gynocentric.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 12:35 AM
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you'd rather the inverse? I mean, like half the suffragettes were men. I'm sure if you rounded up male feminists and female MRAs, you'd see a lot more guys than gals. Not to discredit the female MRAs. They exist and tend to do a great job. But it's silly to act like there are more of them than male feminists.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 12:30 AM
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Have you considered another avenue? It seems to me most of incels or mgtow people have had bad or traumatising experiences with women, but there are a lot of people who are pissed and growing extremely frustrated by the prevalence of systematic misandry and the constant downplaying of it.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 12:23 AM
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elaborate a little
/r/MensRights18/11/21 12:17 AM
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You know, I've been thinking about that for a while. There is an uptick of woman-hating incels, but has anyone bothered to really ask why? Perhaps it is a case of cause and effect and the cause being extreme misandry perpetrated by feminism.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 12:13 AM
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notallwomen, but too many women
/r/MensRights18/11/21 12:04 AM
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Idk like literally any movie with nut shots or a wife slapping their husband? I have not watched a movie in years so I don't know of any recent ones.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 11:31 PM
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Unemphatic? Maybe. Asshole? No.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 11:29 PM
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anything that keeps anyone down is bad, but it does not make it a men's rights specific issue.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 11:28 PM
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It's hard to point to just one example but usually a female striking a male is played for laughs even today.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 08:17 PM
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yes, but not men as a class.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 08:15 PM
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And this is why the opposition paints the MRM as racists. That's not why lmao. Do you really think that Feminism, a movement founded upon denigrating black women and men, really gives two shits about the racism itself? I'm a brown man. That combination leads to so many stereotypes about being a rapist or someone who shits on the streets. Stereotypes about a lack of showering or being a tech support scammer. I've never seen a feminist, in person or online, actively speak out against this. Online,…
/r/MensRights17/11/21 08:14 PM
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What do you mean by "going back?" Are you implying that humans were ever any different?
/r/MensRights17/11/21 08:13 PM
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I don't have facebook and generally only use youtube for sports highlights.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 08:08 PM
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and you used a no no word smh
/r/MensRights17/11/21 08:03 PM
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White dominated institutions keep people of colour down, but just because people of colour can be men does not mean these institutions bring down men as a demographic.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 08:03 PM
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the patriarchy theory
/r/MensRights17/11/21 08:00 PM
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Citation?
/r/MensRights17/11/21 08:00 PM
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And? That's his problem, not yours.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 07:59 PM
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English?
/r/MensRights17/11/21 07:58 PM
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that's because it is your little brother. not your twin, not your elder, you younger sibling. of course the younger sibling is going to have it slightly easier.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 03:31 AM
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Didn't put that in bingo card
/r/MensRights17/11/21 03:30 AM
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On my main reddit account, I think I replied to it. Unfortunately, I don't think reddit loads past 1000 posts on your history so it is what it is.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 03:19 AM
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No, I don't. Do you?
/r/MensRights17/11/21 03:12 AM
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nah they're people who want to get in your pants. I've noticed with some famous male feminists that they tend to be sexual predators, and occasionally pedophiles.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 03:05 AM
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It's about the intent. It's not a coincidence that all of these holidays were put on nov 19 AFTER IMD. Like, you can choose out of 364 days, why choose the one that has the polar opposite holiday?
/r/MensRights17/11/21 03:03 AM
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We don't really give a damn if they call us pieces of shit. They are the types that would call us that anyway regardless of how we upvoted or downvoted. It does us no favours "not playing the stereotype" because you people are all the same. The only time you'll ever care about this sub is when you find it doing something you don't like. I've never seen you around when we were discussing the boy who got raped and was forced to pay child support.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 03:00 AM
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they aren't tiny, don't underestimate them.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:57 AM
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same thing with movember being derailed by this month called "woman abuse prevention month." Like come on, movember is the one thing we've got going for us, and you decide to put your abuse prevention month (as if it isn't already supported way more than the opposite gender's abuse prevention) on the same month as movember?
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:55 AM
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It's going to happen one way or another I believe. You hit a dog enough, it will bite you in the ass.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:54 AM
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best I got is a few askfeminist threads and articles. not much but I haven't seen anything positive about egalitarianism by feminists either.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:53 AM
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you mail bombs to people and think men can't be victims of domestic violence?
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:49 AM
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there's a reason they pop up all the time, and it's because of the silent majority. wouldn't you think that, since so many people are feminists, and that if the majority of them were for equality of the sexes, that these real feminists would heavily condemn these misandrists? there is a reason they are still allowed to spout hateful rhetoric without any backlash from feminists. and it's because of a hard truth to swallow. the vast majority of feminists are not actually for real equality.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:48 AM
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100% agree. It's just lip service and a marketing ploy.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:44 AM
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It's not. Feminists have stated they do not support egalitarianism is a movement, and do not align themselves with it. Mainly because they think feminism does good enough for both genders when it clearly does not.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:44 AM
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surveys are tricky because of certain biases based on who's actually gonna take it. also, you don't need to label yourself a certain ideology to share ignorant beliefs with it.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:30 AM
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Problem?
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:29 AM
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Do you feel the same way about "ironic nazis" who are just "doing it for the memes"? 2- radfem doesn’t mean what you think it means. You’d like them quite a bit if you actually did some reading I did. I hate them twice as much now.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:22 AM
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If I recall correctly, voting was tied to conscription, and many women were actually anti-feminist because they did not want to be included in the draft. It wasn't until after the obligations were dropped that they fully supported it.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:20 AM
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you're preaching to the choir, but anywhere else and you'd be preaching to satan worshippers. there's no in-between unfortunately, but generally yes, I think feminism has gone to an extreme, mainly because men face a lot of institutionalized sexism and feminism continues to push the narrative that only women face sexism.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:19 AM
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I'd say youth but honestly, academics are so entrenched with one-dimensional feminism that I doubt it is going to work. What gives me hope is that I have heard of boys banding together to push back against sexism perpetrated by teachers.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:17 AM
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and equity is not what's happening. how difficult is that to realize? if everything you said is true, would a lot of issues we discuss on this sub not be solved or at least brought up in the mainstream media? everyone I have talked to knows about the "wage gap"(even if it's a myth), but nobody knows about the suicide gap, or the sentencing gap. And if they did, you certainly wouldn't know it by talking to them.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:15 AM
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You don't define a movement by an individual. That's like saying all black people steal because one of them did. Are black people a movement?
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:12 AM
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lmao, these aren't people "pretending to be feminists," they are the grandmothers of feminism. they are more feminist than you ever will be.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:11 AM
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I don't like using these kinds of terms but this is the exact manifestation of the "no true scotsman fallacy."
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:10 AM
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when feminism itself is liberating to men as well It's nowhere near that yet. I think it’s important to understand that being a feminist does not mean that you hate men or don’t agree that they have their own injustices to face. Correlation doesn't equate to causation but there is a big overlap between the people that do hate men and don't agree that they have their own injustices to face and people that call themselves feminist.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:09 AM
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they never get blamed for doing the raping and killing though, which is ultimately what matters when it comes to sentencing disparity.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:06 AM
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eastern areas are not biased towards men, they are just all around shitholes that treat both genders like shit unless they are wealthy.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:05 AM
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you can blame prevalent dating angst posts in this sub. I'd rather it stay strictly gender inequality discourse.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 01:46 AM
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To me, I think there is a massive problem on an ideological scale. I think that is the biggest issue with feminism, and it needs some serious reform or else things are going to stay the way they are or get worse. I think this lack of "real feminists" is a symptom, not a disease.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 01:44 AM
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The second example is on a personal preference scale and is not really forcing anyone against their will. The draft however, unsurprisingly forces many people against their will and is on a country-wide scale.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 01:25 AM
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Fuck Trudeau
/r/MensRights17/11/21 01:23 AM
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I agree. I've stayed off this whole gender discourse thing for a little while and it's made me happier. Realizing why it's made me happier is depressing though.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 01:16 AM
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I fight with my vote but can't do much alone other than that. I am, however, working on a culminating project, collecting tidbits of data presented by studies from this subreddit and lwma to help raise awareness about some issues that get swept under the rug.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 01:14 AM
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thing is, these "real feminists" like you seem to be almost as much of the minority as the hateful ones.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 01:09 AM
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It's not common enough for it to be significant in any generalizations.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 01:07 AM
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selective service. it took the ncfm challenging in court to get the change considered.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:58 AM
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Are you guys not fighting for the exact same thing? We are fighting for gender equality, they aren't.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:56 AM
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exactly. I'd rather fresh stuff even if it's of lower quality than the same study from five years ago constantly circulating around in the form of reposts.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:55 AM
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is getting drafted a right?
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:53 AM
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I can see why lmao
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:53 AM
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By the time I was born gender equality in my opinion has been achieved Were you born way in the future? Because it has never been achieved and with the way things are looking, it likely never will be achieved.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:48 AM
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racial issue my ass. I'm brown. I fight for racial equality too, and am generally more hands on about it than my fight for gender equality (mainly due to the stigma around men's rights). but I'd prefer if the MRM stayed a movement for issues that men face for being men.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:44 AM
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what's bad about it? genuinely curious. I don't want to click it because I don't want to lose my mind.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:41 AM
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cultural ideologies haven't changed much in a decade honestly
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:40 AM
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If they had different times they wouldn't need different rooms and vice versa. It is considerably difficult to avoid someone sharing the same residence as you. Rooms aren't the only compartments of a building.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:38 AM
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we are all hurting, but men are hurting in ways specific to them being a man.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:28 AM
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Even if I did, it would be very hard to avoid interaction with them given that they reside in the same building as I did for that hypothetical 90 minutes. Unless of course, this building is massive, or an apartment, neither of which seem to fit the bill of a clubhouse.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:27 AM
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I did not sleep in the same room as my family members when I lived with them. Does that mean we were completely isolated from one another?
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:16 AM
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Those aren't feminism's main policy goals, besides abortion and sex ed. They are leftist policy goals, but lefitst does not necessarily mean feminist. r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates shows that.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:14 AM
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it's a male-only space invaded by females due to feminist pressure. I'd say the clubhouse is a pretty important place of interaction.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:13 AM
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they are both female apparently. I don't about you, but I'm not sure the epitome of this sub is 13 year old girls.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:12 AM
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The simple answer is, you don't. Some people have their heads stuck too far up their asses to think logically.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:10 AM
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are you sure all of them "signed up" voluntarily?
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:06 AM
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so...it happened.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 12:03 AM
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you ever heard of the missing white woman syndrome?
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:57 PM
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I understand taking precautions for statistically low percentage chances of occurrences. Highly unlikely you get murdered but who wants to take the chance right? But, these precautions are up to me to take, not up to me to force upon others.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:55 PM
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Or, he doesn't give a shit because it's not his problem.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:52 PM
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The article literally said it happened.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:47 PM
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I disagree with a lot of things he says ideologically but he is a man that uses evidence to back his opinions and is very well spoken. He uses logic to come up with his conclusions and I respect that. And ultimately, he's a voice for disenfranchised men in a society that does not have a lot of voices for them, so he's alright by me.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:43 PM
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depends where you live. OP isn't american.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:41 PM
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democracies, as in actual democracies, aren't patriarchal, so long as women are allowed to run for office.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:38 PM
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We don't need CRT in kindergarten. But I would like the movement to be less white oriented, and more all male oriented.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:37 PM
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feminists are some of the most subtly racist people I've talked to
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:34 PM
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like nearly all male-only spaces, they were forced to include girls. I did not see the girl scouts have this same obligation for boys, nor would I support either. I mean, it's pretty clear boy scouts were intended to be a male only space and girl scouts were intended to be a female only space. What I disagree with is the boy scouts and girl scouts having different criteria. I think there should be wilderness exploring type of girl scouts and cookie selling kind of boy scouts alongside the usual …
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:34 PM
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more like half a dozen wastes of time. honestly, who really gives a damn about the literature of "lesbian feminism, the ideology that has such an irrational hatred of men that its heterosexual followers force themselves to become homosexual."
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:30 PM
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all you did was link him a picture of a model
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:28 PM
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it's closer to an actual wage gap than the one perpetuated by feminists because y'know, this one is actually the same profession.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:27 PM
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they mailed bombs to people. look up suffragette bombings.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:21 PM
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30 years later, boys are graded 20% worse by virtue of being male. Amazing how things flip in such little time.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:14 PM
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Depends on where you live but much of the same. In my time in Canada, it's really not much different. I don't know what to say for the UK, but I know they have a lot of sexist laws against men so if you've been led to believe only women experience institutional sexism, then yeah, you've been fed the same bullshit.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:11 PM
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well, that's a you problem then. those men aren't pulling some magical mind control voodoo to make you uncomfortable.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:09 PM
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On the basis of a single day I don't think a genderswap would majorly impact your life. When it comes to jobs, I'd agree there is a lot more pressure for men to partake in dangerous professions, but that isn't built in a day, that's build throughout the journey of growing up around certain societal influences. There was however, a lesbian feminist woman who pretended to be a man for 18 months and became depressed, so I guess a precedent has been set. Like honestly, a lot of problems men and wome…
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:08 PM
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but why make such a big deal about the gender?
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:00 PM
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mansplaining is just sexism really. It's applying a genderless negative trait like condescending to a gender. It acts as though being an asshole is inherently a male trait, which I think is kinda sexist. Don't you?
/r/MensRights16/11/21 11:00 PM
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Mans trying to act like his presence was meaningful
/r/MensRights16/11/21 10:55 PM
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In comparison to ALL humans (big, small, ugly, pretty, athletic, smart, dumb across the entire world)?? What percent?
/r/MensRights16/11/21 10:53 PM
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You gather up in victimhoods and dont want to change at all. You dont voice the problems feminists have with men. You dont recognize any victim of men, all you do is pay lip service. You are completely deaf about the problems feminists bring up. You dont ever listen. You think youre perfect and when not you are the only one to know whats best. And? It's not really my, or our problem. At least we don't ridicule those problems, or act like they don't exist, or try to hide them through media influe…
/r/MensRights16/11/21 10:52 PM
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Men constantly assaulted my female colleges. Its exclusive to men. None of the women did that. Such sound evidence that women have never assaulted men or other women. You have completely destroyed our arguments with facts and logic.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 10:35 PM
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It is actually a sprawling array of different groups, many of which disagree with eachother. All of which tend to at least tolerate misandry.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 10:32 PM
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The other, more sane feminists, do not have reasonable points on masculinity. I'm sure it is a small number of feminists that say kill all men, but it is an equally few number of feminists that have "reasonable points on masculinity." Men's rights is not a topic that appears in the mind of the vast majority of feminists.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 10:30 PM
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Yeah, there is a lot of people fed up with feminism, and retaliating. That's what you're spending your whole day bitching about is it not? All this talk about me not having enough to do in life. As opposed to you? Or maybe you think you're "volunteering" by bravely fighting the monstrous incels of the manosphere. So fearless. The way you type your messages and hit send. Perfection. Mastery. I'm in the presence of greatness.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 10:19 PM
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dang. no response? where are the witty sarcastic comments? what happened to you?
/r/MensRights16/11/21 10:14 PM
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you won't be missed
/r/MensRights16/11/21 10:11 PM
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our struggle? get the hell out of here. I don't suppose you've done anything for men's rights or abused men.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 10:11 PM
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I think it's kind of sad you're still out here trolling. Like, I've been gone for a week. Come back to this sub, lots of changes but a plethora of shit takes by you is the one constant. I have to say, I admire the dedication.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 10:08 PM
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I'm going to wait to see any mention of IMD irl. I heard plenty of mentions of IWD, plenty mentions of women's month. Lots of women's issues brought up. A prayer for women even. I want to see what happens on November 19. Let's see the empathy gap in full.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 10:05 PM
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sketch lacks nuance or any critical understanding of the complex issue that is the growth in male loneliness.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 10:00 PM
1

boy scouts
/r/MensRights16/11/21 09:49 PM
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what's with r/politics and aggressively misinterpreting this post?
/r/MensRights16/11/21 09:47 PM
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you shit on the urinals? what kind of monster are you?
/r/MensRights16/11/21 09:44 PM
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You can pee standing up but I'm not sure if you can take a shit while standing up
/r/MensRights16/11/21 09:42 PM
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You can only do so much by changing one side of the equation. Take male rape done by females for example. There are two big issues surrounding the victims. One, nobody takes male rape itself seriously, and as a result, the victim is pressured to stay silent about being raped due to fear of ridicule. Say we create an environment where men are free from pressure of reporting rape. That's one side of the problem solved. But they won't get full justice until we solve the other side of the problem. T…
/r/MensRights16/11/21 09:35 PM
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It's interesting. I see a lot of "strong female hero" but I don't see a lot of breaking down of "toxic masculinity." It seems some tropes never change.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 09:26 PM
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there's a lot more misconceptions about third world countries, and how they treat their men. honestly, a subconscious bar has been set so high for women and so low for men that our tolerance for seeing maltreatment of women and men radically differ. it's called the empathy gap.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 09:23 PM
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Well, if you're bald, I suggest pursuing a basketball career. People will make fun of you less. But jokes aside, there is a lot of overlap between the people that cry about fatshaming and the people who shame dick size or baldness.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 09:22 PM
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It's not easy to control but it is far more controllable than the other things.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 09:20 PM
1

Honestly, what's the difference? Besides one pretending to take on a progressive stance.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 09:18 PM
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Op is doing a phenomenal job at that
/r/MensRights16/11/21 09:18 PM
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what percent of people are country leaders and company owners?
/r/MensRights16/11/21 09:16 PM
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I agree. I've fallen to this trap to, thinking more favourably of conservatives because of their media coverage. But it's honestly hard not to. So many of these issues, and so little media coverage of them enrages me. I was willing to accept any kind of media coverage.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 09:15 PM
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or the fact that this guy is a troll who somehow is still going at it.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 09:13 PM
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did you know the taliban kills, rapes, and tortures more men than women?
/r/MensRights16/11/21 09:10 PM
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cry somewhere else
/r/MensRights16/11/21 09:00 PM
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Imagine how long that same bullshit was done in reverse. Sucks doesn’t it? If this logic is used to justify bullshit, you don't get to cry foul when retaliation happens.
/r/MensRights16/11/21 08:58 PM
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Patriarchy =/= gender roles
/r/MensRights06/11/21 11:42 PM
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because those are actual legal rights lmao
/r/MensRights06/11/21 11:41 PM
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Once again, all your evidence of the MRM "impeding the progress" of feminism is a bunch of reddit posts. Omigod, a post said all feminists are fat. How will feminism ever recover. Sure, shutting down a protest and a mental health meeting was bad, but hey, at least we don't have social media posts saying bad stuff your movement! Also, what do you have against involuntary celibates? Are you mad at them for not being able to have sex? Kinda weird if you ask me. Funny enough, feminists have also bee…
/r/MensRights06/11/21 06:08 PM
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the "patriarchy" didn't seem to stop Hillary clinton did it? It certainly isn't stopping jo jorgerson or whatever her name is. Speaking of, she's a female candidate, why do so little of you vote for her?
/r/MensRights06/11/21 05:13 PM
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so, when he asked you what rights do women not have that men do, you gave a bunch of fluff and a thing that neither of them have. he didn't ask you what inequalities, he asked you what rights.
/r/MensRights06/11/21 05:12 PM
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And? It's not our fault none of you decide to run for office.
/r/MensRights06/11/21 04:42 PM
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but if they are equally qualified, it is 100/0 for women instead of 50/50. that is sexist because it prefers one gender over the other. how is this difficult to understand?
/r/MensRights06/11/21 03:33 PM
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Intriguing. The Native Americans had lots of Matriarchies and from how they were described it seemed they had the same gender roles, just prioritized women and put them in positions of leadership. patriarchies do protect their women though from horrors like war, prison, and violence (outside of the home).
/r/MensRights06/11/21 02:53 AM
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It's not thrusted on them. They are nurtured to become leaders in the community. Besides, a matriarchy is not all that different from a patriarchy. The gender roles are mostly the same. Women are the caretakers and men are the protectors and providers. But where a patriarchy actually values their women, a matriarchy does not value their men and that is why they always fall.
/r/MensRights05/11/21 11:34 PM
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First of all, yes it is handed to women. Instead of 50/50 chance if they were male, it becomes 100/0. Furthermore, there are more things to consider about an employee than qualification. Things like personality, work ethic, stuff like that. Gender should not be one of them. This law and its predecessors are here since 1994 and we still did not reach 50/50 Maybe because there aren't as many qualified women as there are qualified men? But still, why shouldn’t the woman be hired, if she is equally …
/r/MensRights05/11/21 10:36 PM
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Not sure what you're trying to prove to me with this. All I'm seeing is that it's still sexism. If a man is equally qualified as a woman, he will be less preferred because of something he has no control over, which happens to be his gender. It's also funny how they hide this sexism under an "equality law."
/r/MensRights05/11/21 10:06 PM
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feminists are some of the most racist people I have had the displeasure of talking to
/r/MensRights05/11/21 08:52 PM
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I'm just pro-equality, whatever that may entail.
/r/MensRights05/11/21 08:50 PM
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boy scouts
/r/MensRights05/11/21 08:48 PM
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have you ever done anything for men's rights?
/r/MensRights05/11/21 08:47 PM
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so why is the tie-breaker biased towards women? that's sexism. also it said equivalent, not equal. when people say "equivalent" they tend to give a lot more leeway.
/r/MensRights05/11/21 08:45 PM
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no, quotas are bad regardless of who benefits
/r/MensRights05/11/21 08:45 PM
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matriarchy hurts women? have you gone mad? the only way matriarchy "hurts women" is by making their society vulnerable to being conquered because they treat their soldiers like shit.
/r/MensRights05/11/21 08:43 PM
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yeah and I'm the president of the united states
/r/MensRights05/11/21 08:33 PM
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the hell have you done for men's rights?
/r/MensRights05/11/21 08:33 PM
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which one of those issues pertain to rights?
/r/MensRights05/11/21 08:31 PM
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I think you've misunderstood me. I'm not asking for support or advocation. I do not care whether you lot fight for men or not. I'm asking for feminists to stop shutting down our mental health meetings. I'm asking for feminists to stop counter-protesting our protests. I'm asking for feminists to stop cancelling our events, like International Men's Day. I'm asking for feminists to stop censoring any mention of the issues we face, like trying to ban the Red Pill Documentary or trying to ban this su…
/r/MensRights05/11/21 08:06 PM
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nah. women make up more of the voters. it's not our fault you keep voting men into office.
/r/MensRights05/11/21 06:02 PM
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An exception isn't the rule. Also I agree, it's transphobia, but not sexism. That said, I'm not surprised there is transphobia, because like I said, it is mostly conservative media that stands up for men's rights, and conservative media tends to be transphobic. For this to change, progressive media needs to start standing up for men's rights instead of antagonizing it.
/r/MensRights05/11/21 12:44 AM
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Just what I suspected. Here's the funny thing, I recall discussion about men in education actually being forced up into administrative positions because of the stigma against them when it comes to teaching and caring for kids. It is really funny how sexism against men sometimes leads to sexism against women, and the other way around.
/r/MensRights05/11/21 12:42 AM
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And oh my god a democracy can be a patriarchy because it’s run by mostly men And? They weren't appointed because they were men, but because the majority of voters (a demographic that contains more women than men) saw them as fit to lead the country. That's not a patriarchy lmao. Patriarchy is not when president = man. And if it was, I'd have all the grounds to call you and every single feminist a sexist. Why? Because you are inadvertently saying that being born with a penis makes you more sexist…
/r/MensRights05/11/21 12:40 AM
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I'm paranoid because I see a lot of people acting like they've always been an MRA and yet suspiciously, a comment calling out the movement is their first one. I'd respect a comment like that a lot more if it was someone who actually fought for men's rights or raised awareness for it saying it. But 90% of the time it's some feminist shill. I am curious as to why there are upvotes on a comment saying "After the rape from that trans guy can you blame them?" There are a lot of conservatives on this …
/r/MensRights05/11/21 12:24 AM
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And never forget that. Writers can change society.
/r/MensRights05/11/21 12:20 AM
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egalitarianism vs feminism depending on where you live egalitarianism vs tradition elsewhere as far as I'm concerned, it's not only the elites upholding sexism
/r/MensRights05/11/21 12:01 AM
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good stuff. it's things like this that will help people, even if just a few, understand about the egalitarian movement. Words have power.
/r/MensRights04/11/21 11:57 PM
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trying to achieve the above? I've never seen you say or do anything on this sub before this.
/r/MensRights04/11/21 11:55 PM
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Yes. Are you?
/r/MensRights04/11/21 11:39 PM
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ace this essay for us champ.
/r/MensRights04/11/21 11:36 PM
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rape culture is male rape being regarded as a joke. anyone who regards female rape as a joke (however rare they may be) regards rape in general as a joke. but you will find many who regards male rape as a joke but regards female rape seriously.
/r/MensRights04/11/21 11:34 PM
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hope they just "ask" and not "force." Also UK, shouldn't you make your rape definition equal if you wanted to "promote equality."
/r/MensRights04/11/21 11:32 PM
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Also some men today perpetrate sexist ideas which enforces the sexism our society was built on. Some women also perpetrate sexist ideas. What's the deal with you and 99% of feminists only calling out the men who do it? In no way am I trying to say all men are bad or all men are sexist Well, then you best leave this thread, because this post isn't calling you out. There's no need to get offended over it, because according to you, they aren't talking about you. it’s just the structure of our socie…
/r/MensRights04/11/21 11:29 PM
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why would any self-respecting man clean someone else's shit if it wasn't their job?
/r/MensRights04/11/21 11:22 PM
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Is it because they predominantly take up administration roles? Would like to hear more detailed, nuanced specifics about this.
/r/MensRights04/11/21 11:16 PM
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I mean, you can say the same thing about firefighters and just reverse the genders. In fact I think it's worse because with male quotas in female-dominated fields aren't "practical" because of a social stigmas whereas female quotas in male-dominated aren't "practical" because people have died because of quotas. Honestly, should just do away with quotas. I agree with breaking down gender norms, but quotas aren't the way to do it. With quotas you are reducing a lot of efficiency.
/r/MensRights04/11/21 11:14 PM
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the oppression of women is worse than toxic masculinity Disagree. Just because you historically had your rights taken away (as if we historically didn't), doesn't mean you have it worse now. Atm I'd say men have it worse because of multiple accounts of bodily autonomy violations, a very big education bias, an empathy gap by society overall and many more.
/r/MensRights04/11/21 11:07 PM
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you say that as if men are a monolith. "who's fault is it?" the rich? the narcissistic? the greedy? the power-hungry? the assholes? There are more ways to describe someone than by their gender lmao.
/r/MensRights04/11/21 11:05 PM
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Good to hear. Hope it spills over to France as well, a country that prides itself on "gender equality."
/r/AntiFeminists04/11/21 10:59 PM
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I am not only talking about the United States. I am talking about all developed nations. Even so, it is good to hear that is a viable option in all 50 states, though I hope the stigma disappears so less men do not take the test because of shame.
/r/AntiFeminists04/11/21 10:39 PM
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depends on the place it seems. should be a viable option everywhere possible and without stigma.
/r/AntiFeminists04/11/21 10:34 PM
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do both have to consent or only the father? I feel like this is very important.
/r/AntiFeminists04/11/21 10:31 PM
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die mad incel
/r/AntiFeminists04/11/21 10:27 PM
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good point. I'd say paternity tests are more of a reproductive rights kinda thing and I think ethically, it aligns with wanting abortions as both prioritise the wellbeing of the parent over the wellbeing of the child.
/r/AntiFeminists04/11/21 10:26 PM
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hypocritical. and telling of their intentions but that's another topic.
/r/AntiFeminists04/11/21 07:26 PM
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Yes. Exactly. Level playing field for all. I can feel the sarcasm, but I can assure you, feminism is not the fight for equality you think it is.
/r/AntiFeminists04/11/21 07:24 PM
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Nah we want them gone. Difference is, we want them all gone, and not just a select few.
/r/AntiFeminists04/11/21 12:21 AM
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guarantee you most of the people who voted no are pro-abortion
/r/AntiFeminists04/11/21 12:16 AM
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education gap legal rights (almost every country in the world is not gender-egalitarian with it's laws and policies. guarantee you'll find at least one that is sexist against men) workplace death gap homeless gap suicide gap empathy gap "women are wonderful effect" gender-based hostility towards males and there's many more
/r/MensRights03/11/21 11:16 PM
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Because it's polite? Courteous? I don't really give a damn what's beneath the pants of someone I'm holding the door for. I'm not tryna fuck everyone I meet lmao. Just because I hold the door for someone doesn't mean I'm attracted to them, just means I felt like doing a good deed.
/r/MensRights03/11/21 11:12 PM
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do you not see these same issues adressed in movements like feminism I see the female versions of these issues talked about in feminism. But we aren't dissing the very rare gender equality aspect in feminism, we diss the more common hypocritical, ignorant, and occasionally man-hating aspect.
/r/MensRights03/11/21 11:07 PM
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teachers having subconscious gender biases. there were multiple studies about this. search up 20% grading bias against boys.
/r/MensRights03/11/21 11:05 PM
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Being a gentleman is holding a door for anyone, regardless of your gender.
/r/MensRights03/11/21 11:02 PM
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Well, if feminists are going to say "feminism is for men too," why wouldn't we demand support and advocation? Like, we are just asking for y'all to not lie. Shouldn't be too hard is it? But the truth is really, the only time "patriarchy hurts men too" or "that's toxic masculinity" is brought up is to silence men's rights voices. You never see it anywhere else besides when feminists are trying to stop men from advocating for their own rights. You never see it brought up on r/feminism randomly, yo…
/r/MensRights03/11/21 10:57 PM
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exactly. men's rights activists haven't done anything for women. and that includes negative things. feminism on the other hand, well, from what I see, they've pushed a lot of laws that harm men. so they've done stuff for men, just not good stuff. I think it's absurd that you're telling a 16 year old to stop advocating for HIS rights and to start advocating for yours.
/r/MensRights03/11/21 10:38 PM
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we don't live in a patriarchy lmao, we live in a democracy.
/r/MensRights03/11/21 10:33 PM
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13 50 or 12 56 now it's telling how these faux-progressives think like conservatives when it comes to men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 10:07 PM
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You are spot on. Young, rebellious men are a threat to the government and the government has acted accordingly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 10:05 PM
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they say equality isn't a zero sum game, but I say it very much is, given it takes massive backlash against feminism for men's rights as a concept to gain traction. Of course I'm not opposed to either as feminism isn't synonymous with women's rights and therefore I can be anti-feminist while being pro-egalitarianism, but it is interesting to me that this bashing is what it takes for men's rights to be more prevalent. It is also eye-opening to me that feminism dominating education leads to a lack…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 10:01 PM
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No, actually. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/j018cf/is_pseudofeminism_even_a_thing/g6n373j/?context=3 Should give this a read. It is an argument against the core ideology of feminism which is the "patriarchy theory."
/r/MensRights02/11/21 09:53 PM
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99 percent of people treat people with respect. How many bad takes are you capable of making? Jesus. This is notwithstanding any gender-issue discourse, but 99% of people do not treat people with respect lmfao. Don't know where you got this from. Clearly you've never worked at fast food and have been watching children's shows your entire life.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 09:38 PM
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90% of rape cases are inconclusive. It's not up to me or you or feminists to decide how rape and false rape is split up between that 90%.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 09:35 PM
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Really? I disagree. It helps men realise that they are failures for being men. Of course not true but it is clear feminism wants it to be true.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 09:30 PM
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taking this side is balancing though, since there are a lot more people taking the other side.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 09:27 PM
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Honestly, I took the reasons that feminists told me are why misogyny is prevalent, and I applied it to men. Then I took a look at what feminists were doing to help stop misandry and I saw jack shit. And then of course, the blatant misandry perpetrated by them. A bit of research and extrapolations later, I find myself here.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 09:25 PM
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Well, it all goes back to the beginning. White feminists were extremely vile to both men and black women. They partook in bombings, guilt tripped young men into serving the military, abused laws that favoured women to destroy some men and held extremely derogatory views of black women, excluding them from the movement. Second wave was responsible for the duluth model and tender years doctrine. The doctrine is why custody cases are so biased towards women and the duluth model is based on the sexi…
/r/MensRights02/11/21 09:15 PM
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get with the times, it's 12/56 now. but in all seriousness, it is hilarious bringing it up whenever a feminist says some dumb shit like the one in the bottom pic.
/r/AntiFeminists02/11/21 08:56 PM
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I don't have any and I don't care. Anyone using it to argue for supremacy is a jackass. And besides, isn't the updated version always better than the original?
/r/AntiFeminists02/11/21 08:54 PM
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first, don't even bother, they'll double down, call you an incel, and leave. two, ask them if feminism is "the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of gender equality," would that mean in a scenario where men are disadvantaged compared to women, they would bring women down to the level that men are at in said scenario?
/r/AntiFeminists02/11/21 08:46 PM
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It's even worse in other countries
/r/MensRights02/11/21 08:38 PM
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equal draft is coming soon
/r/MensRights02/11/21 08:09 PM
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fyi, there are more males killed, raped, and kidnapped by the taliban than females.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 08:03 PM
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It's a hate movement. That's all I'll say.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 07:48 PM
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lol if I ever feel dumb, all I have to do is look at you. thanks for this.
/r/AntiFeminists02/11/21 07:33 PM
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I'm not saying the support should be equal, I'm saying it shouldn't lead to more inequality. Also when the OP wrote that these feminists said "women first" at that time it was the honorary thing to sacrifice your life for your wife You realize that feminists entire existence was supposedly to change these kinds of traditions? How does it make sense that you are advocating for getting rid of gender norms but enforcing them at the same time? That is the point here. Social justice advocates should …
/r/MensRights01/11/21 05:45 PM
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The reason why they are prioritised is because women and children literally were the groups that had the least rate of survival. And somehow they've managed to flip the stats on their head instead of making it equal.
/r/MensRights01/11/21 01:51 AM
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I think it's caused by the dominance of feminism in education and parenting.
/r/AntiFeminists01/11/21 01:50 AM
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Yeah, but what's the point of saying that in this context? To deflect.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 05:55 PM
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no problem
/r/MensRights31/10/21 05:55 PM
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they are also prioritised in times of disaster because of them being the carriers of children. I understand biology. But there is no doubt sexism plays a very crucial rule in amplifying the differences between men and women. Why do you think there are so few female chess grandmasters in comparison to male?
/r/MensRights31/10/21 05:51 PM
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A lot of men are too, unfortunately.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/21 03:31 PM
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Dude I literally just said most people were racist back then. How is that excusing racism? Because you are using other people's racism to deflect theirs.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 03:31 PM
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look at r/feminism, generalizing all women. so misogynistic.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/21 02:52 PM
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Likewise
/r/MensRights31/10/21 02:45 PM
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why would he need to? people already do that to hide the bad in the feminist movement.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 02:43 PM
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A disgusting bigot
/r/MensRights31/10/21 02:41 PM
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You can't handle someone challenge your preconceived worldview? Of course if someone's been fed bullshit their entire life, logic would taste bad to them. Bye, we wont miss you.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 02:36 PM
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Slick, but haters gonna hate. Dumbasses gonna dumbass.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 02:32 PM
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I'm calling out everyone cause everyone was racist back then. We, unlike you, don't excuse racism. Also I'm pretty sure the Civil Rights Movement wasn't racist. And who led the Civil Rights Movement, I wonder? Oh right, a man.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 02:30 PM
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see men say that women deserve to be raped. And? I see women say that men deserve to be killed and "reduced to 10% of the population" (courtesy of Sally Miller Gearhart). I see someone literally write a book called "I hate men" and receive positive reviews and good sales. Get back to me when you see a book called "I hate women" get that kind of success and then we'll talk. Edit: Funny thing is the people who hate men tend to act like they want "equality." The people who hate women tend to just b…
/r/MensRights31/10/21 02:25 PM
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We live in a world where someone has to apologize because they got sexually harassed. Damn shame.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/21 02:17 PM
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My point is, we're calling out feminists, and you're calling out men. Do you see the false equivalency? feminist is not synonymous with women. A lot of the suffragettes were men. Some of the most influential men's rights activists are women. Some of y'all are taking a critique of feminism like an attack on your life.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 02:16 PM
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I'd say it's far more inevitable than a matriarchy. As far as I'm concerned, those don't last very long because who woulda thought that treating your soldiers, hunters, gatherers, and builders like shit would lead to your downfall. Seems to me that "patriarchies" (if you can even call them that. highly doubt that there ever will be a society that values its men above women because men don't have wombs) have gender roles but treat their women favourably in many cases wheras a matriarchy just trea…
/r/MensRights31/10/21 02:13 PM
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damn I didn't know you were a racist
/r/MensRights31/10/21 02:10 PM
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All the men back then were racist too. I'd be shocked if any of them were men's rights activists.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 02:07 PM
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I think the desperate want to be considered a minority group is a part of the victimization complex you see in a lot of people. Yeah I see it in feminists a lot. Especially white feminists.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 02:05 PM
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ok but you're aware there have been many waves of feminism and we're a far cry from the first iteration? Yeah, at least the first iteration had a silver lining called "equal voting rights." Y'all now are just a bunch of hateful shitters trying to use historical oppression you've never experienced in person to justify your irrational hatred of people who you don't even know. i also wouldn't be surprised if we have drastically different perspectives on what is hate speech Yeah, our definition of h…
/r/MensRights31/10/21 02:03 PM
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what's to consider? they are technically a minority in terms of population. Not sure why you enjoy punching down so much.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 01:56 PM
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And women are technically a majority, no? If so, why do you spend all your time trolling a minority rights movement when you can be trolling the majority rights movement?
/r/MensRights31/10/21 01:37 PM
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ALM is also un-equitable. You would't put the same amount of water for both the smaller fire and the bigger fire. [https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/814Q2DclL8UqEExJBxg0uconaho=/1400x0/filters:no\_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus\_asset/file/4027016/all%20lives%20matter%20cartoon.png](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/814Q2DclL8UqEExJBxg0uconaho=/1400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4027016/all%20lives%20matter%20cartoon.png) This is what I was referring too.…
/r/MensRights31/10/21 01:34 PM
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Not nearly enough and not for the right reasons. The only reason most people hate feminists are for silly reasons. When people start to see the actual reasons on why feminism isn't good, they will support the MRM or at the very least adopt an egalitarian stance of support.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 01:24 PM
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And in almost all cases it is a result of sexism, whether directly through unequal laws and obligations or societal influence.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 01:18 PM
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I am a POC. People do discriminate. People will accept someone because of their skin color, and not because of their grades and how well they did on tests or an essay. I'm aware. But how would you feel if the demographic that benefited from your discrimination was the one getting compensation for it? It just drives me insane that people are not only blissfully ignorant of the education gap, but they paint a completely different narrative and appropriate their resources to the group that needs it…
/r/MensRights31/10/21 04:02 AM
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True, but when we take screenshots of NOW’s post on Twitter and explain how much of a disgusting bigot they are to society it’s like convincing a Trump support to change their mind; most of the time, that’s not going to happen I'm not looking to de-radicalize radicals. Nothing will change them. Just gotta accept that's how it will be. But I am looking to prevent the average, reasonable person from falling prey to the spiderweb of lies feminism has perpetuated about both itself and reality. I'm l…
/r/MensRights31/10/21 03:53 AM
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And nobody cared. Sad.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/21 03:51 AM
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patriarchy is not even an offensive word, people just use it incorrectly. we live in a democracy, not a patriarchy.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/21 03:04 AM
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Are you going to also tell us how there are scholarships for POC and not white people? Well, even though I disagree with the concept of affirmative action as a whole (I say this as a POC myself, and imo the efforts should be gone straight to the root of the discrimination problem), it is still completely different because of the fact that it is POC getting discriminated against. Affirmative action for women is like having affirmative action for white people. I don't think anything else needs to …
/r/MensRights31/10/21 03:04 AM
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but they will also be held accountable for their actions. Feminism won't let that happen.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/21 12:01 AM
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Except it isn't caused by patriarchy, because we don't live in one.
/r/AntiFeminists30/10/21 11:54 PM
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my god that's comedic
/r/AntiFeminists30/10/21 11:48 PM
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the powers that be have to cater to their supporters, which seems to comprise of more women than men.
/r/AntiFeminists30/10/21 11:42 PM
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because boys are being discriminated against grading-wise. turns out that on average, papers with "male-sounding names" suffer a 20% grading bias. Plus, affirmative action and female only scholarships are contributing to the pushing out of men in higher education and as a result, women vastly outnumber men in higher education. corona death gap is just statistics, and the statistics show that men die of covid more. I haven't done all the research on the factors but one of them is about work discr…
/r/MensRights30/10/21 06:48 PM
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run by men? the majority of voters are women
/r/AntiFeminists30/10/21 05:59 PM
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only upper class white men that served could vote. so you had to be a man yes, but you also had to be white, rich, and part of the military. I wouldn't have been able to vote even if I was filthy rich and served.
/r/MensRights30/10/21 04:37 PM
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You wouldn't know real equality if it hit you in the face
/r/MensRights30/10/21 04:36 PM
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I don't care about what they did, I care about what they do. I hope showing people what they did can open their eyes to what they do now. And what they do is silence men's right's voices through their dominance in the media and education. Why is it only conservative media outlets that raise awareness of men's rights issues such as the education gap or covid death gap, when a human rights movement is supposedly a progressive thing? Like I've noticed that literally every shout out in the media of …
/r/MensRights30/10/21 04:32 PM
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Let’s talk about accomplishments We do, when they happen. It's not often so you won't see it often. ways to change the legal systems and support male rape victims. Part of that means to shift a certain mentality or two. Mentalities that are enforced by a certain movement. Check the second latest post on this subreddit. Might be ridiculous but that's probably where funding will go if funding happens. So, if there is a roadblock to fixing a certain problem, obviously you have to remove the roadblo…
/r/MensRights30/10/21 04:24 PM
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Or maybe it's because women receive 63% lighter sentences than men for the same crime? But no, surely it's because this sub is "sexist."
/r/MensRights30/10/21 02:58 PM
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It'll never be reached lmao. It's a longshot to get legal equality because feminism has warped the definition so much. It's nearly impossible to achieve social equality because you're going to have to undo 1000+ years of media influence.
/r/MensRights30/10/21 02:57 PM
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can we continue to help support, inform and progress men’s rights? We never stopped. It just sounds to me like criticism of feminism irks you.
/r/MensRights30/10/21 02:55 PM
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nah feminism is the hate culture, equality is the cure. Unfortunately, when it comes to gender-based issues y'all are anti-vaxxers.
/r/MensRights30/10/21 02:53 PM
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I bet you these feminists will be the first to tell you "real feminism is about equality"
/r/AntiFeminists30/10/21 02:45 PM
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We don't live in a patriarchy, we live in a democracy.
/r/AntiFeminists30/10/21 02:43 PM
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I did. How many upvotes did it get? It doesn't seem like your feminist friends share your sentiments. That's the point I was making in my edit. Read carefully.
/r/AntiFeminists30/10/21 02:33 PM
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that's great! do you have anything else to say? edit: turns out you aren't lying lmao. but that post on r/feminism has, let me see, 1 upvote. I'm so relieved that out of the millions of feminists in the world, a grand total of one actually stays true to the definition. I wonder what that has to say about the rest of y'all though.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/21 10:14 PM
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they aren't a bloke, and their sole reason for being on this sub is to make feminism look good. unfortunately for them, they are just making it look worse.
/r/MensRights29/10/21 07:11 PM
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so you're a nazi? wow.
/r/MensRights29/10/21 07:08 PM
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statistically, the taliban does it to them more often though.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/21 07:07 PM
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like where? what feminist has advocated for women to be disadvantaged in a certain area?
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/21 07:07 PM
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yeah but this has nothing to do with men's rights. abortion is a women's rights issue, and I don't think it's right to gloat about their progress being denied. regardless of where you stand on abortion, I don't think this is the place to voice it unless you mean to intersect with financial abortion or some sort.
/r/MensRights29/10/21 07:06 PM
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Yeah your Canadian party leader is a nutjob. But other than that y'all are fine.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/21 11:49 PM
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First link is nothing new. It's great that there is a positive side effect for men's emotions but it's clear it's aimed, first and foremost, at reducing abuse against women. Also, it's one city. One single city is the example that you are using to say my circles are inadequate. What do you think the chances are, that I live in Sweden, and live in Stockholm? Stockholm has a population of 975,551. The world has a population upwards of 7 billion people. I've got a 1 in 7000 chance of being in the v…
/r/MensRights28/10/21 11:42 PM
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feminists are rape and pedo apologists, when the victim is male and the perpetrator is female.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/21 10:30 PM
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the hell are they supposed to do, admit that there are critical flaws in their ideology? no chance lmao.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/21 10:29 PM
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you know the taliban enslaves, rapes, and kills more males than females right?
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/21 10:27 PM
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Wasn't MLK involved in some violent protests of his own?
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/21 10:21 PM
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I think you'd be a perfect fit for this sub
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/21 10:20 PM
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1st wave feminists weren't the angels you think they were. They literally bombed people.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/21 10:17 PM
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I dunno know. I think the first wave is bad because they bombed people and guilt tripped young men into joining the army, but hey at least they got the right to vote!
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/21 10:17 PM
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There as many feminists for "Actual equality" as there are KKK members for "racial equality". I don't think you understand this, but by definition, if you are a feminist, you have to advocate to disadvantage women where they are advantaged over men. When have you ever seen a self-proclaimed feminist do that?
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/21 10:15 PM
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I'm aware. I'm referring more to real life experiences and occurrences. Seems to me like nobody really gives a shit about men's rights and the only ones that do are young men. In fact, the only times I think I've ever seen a feminist defend men's rights is online.
/r/MensRights28/10/21 09:48 PM
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did you ignore the 4.5 times stronger than men part? some scholars even debate men have an outgroup bias.
/r/MensRights28/10/21 09:46 PM
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Apparently, women have a 4.5 times strong in-group bias than men, so there's that.
/r/MensRights28/10/21 09:01 PM
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I'm pretty sure when it comes to tax benefits Canada strongly discriminates against men.
/r/MensRights28/10/21 08:49 PM
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but why would they hire two if they only need one?
/r/MensRights28/10/21 08:45 PM
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yeah men have been concerned about women's rights issues since the suffragettes. The reverse hasn't been nearly as close in terms of support and impact. Not really egalitarian if you ask me.
/r/MensRights28/10/21 08:43 PM
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I don't mean to be rude, but that's not our problem? The name of the sub is men's rights, not women's rights or BLM.
/r/MensRights28/10/21 08:41 PM
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Facts. You have to compromise with their bullshit for some reason.
/r/MensRights28/10/21 08:39 PM
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The funny thing is, I don't see you fighting this hard against people who generalize males. Why do you care about one generalization so much more than the other?
/r/MensRights28/10/21 08:37 PM
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and they have the gall to complain about being seen as bitchy when they act "assertive." assertive my ass, this is just delusion.
/r/MensRights28/10/21 08:34 PM
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It wouldn't even be considered a « rightist movement » if leftists were to take this seriously Agreed. Way less radicalization would happen if more leftists did their part to fight for an actual egalitarian society. This sub should be much bigger.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/21 06:20 PM
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I agree that feminism is not THE gender equality movement, and with time could come to see the MRM as another gender equality movement. Because that IS what it is. The MRM advocates for gender equality, while FOCUSING on male issues. ​ I think, before we reach this state of equal support, the movement in power should either have more of an egalitarian focus or put forth some equitable efforts to make support more equal by uplifting the other movements grievances. I'd say this no matter which mov…
/r/MensRights27/10/21 02:19 AM
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The original draft is pretty much gone but I'll try to sum up what I wrote regarding your other posts. Guaranteed to be written worse though because the reason I was never great at English is because the moment I lose my train of thought there's no getting it back. I think you misunderstood me. The reason my wife can't be sold on MRAs as legitimate allies is because of the connection between this group and groups like MGTOW, The Red Pill (I mean come on they named their document after them), and…
/r/MensRights27/10/21 02:17 AM
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I just think it is important to understand the larger picture when bringing up countries like India which is largely a back water for women's rights still. I get that but like, it's just petty that just because women face sexism, they try to block progress for men. I'm not complaining about anything man, I'm telling you what they see and why they don't take the MRM seriously/see it as a sexist movement. I very much tried to comment that from a neutral stand-point. Not referring to you specifical…
/r/MensRights27/10/21 01:12 AM
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I'm gonna be honest I've been reading your post throughout the day and I still don't understand what you mean here. What I mean is, I've interpreted, from your sarcastic rants, that feminism should focus on women and the MRM should focus on men. You bringing up the civil rights movement fighting for all racial equality makes no sense in this context. Obviously I agree here as well. However that took place in India right? India is a VERY different place when it comes to the treatment of women... …
/r/MensRights27/10/21 12:00 AM
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Because the leftists in that sub, and 90% of these mainstream leftists, don't even follow actual leftist values, they just call themselves leftist because it's the popular thing to do. Men's rights activism isn't, by nature, a right-wing or conservative ideology. But it's become that in mainstream culture because in mainstream culture progressive and conservative have lost meaning.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/21 10:15 PM
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There we go. A big pet peeve of mine. Always been there, felt wrong, just couldn't put it in the form of words. But this post sums everything up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/21 10:09 PM
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Only time I'll agree with a feminist lmao
/r/AntiFeminists26/10/21 10:05 PM
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It's a prevalent feminist narrative that men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of misogyny.
/r/AntiFeminists26/10/21 09:58 PM
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Then you shouldn’t have asked for my opinion I asked you why you thought some people don't deserve human rights because of certain failures in their lives? All you've done is projected your insecurities onto me. I detest men that blame it all on feminism because ‘they don’t give men’s issues enough attention’ instead of blaming it on the actual origin of their problems What a strawman. I couldn't care less what feminism does or doesn't do to help men. Just asking them to stop lying about being a…
/r/MensRights26/10/21 09:47 PM
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A discussion where you do all the talking isn't really a discussion lmao.
/r/MensRights26/10/21 08:43 PM
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I don't really give a shit what you think lmao. But it seems to me you detest men who fight for human rights and equal rights. So who's really the "incel" here?
/r/MensRights26/10/21 08:43 PM
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Yeah but a feminist misandrist is different from a regular misandrist. A regular misandrist is just sexist. But a feminist misandrist is a sexist who thinks they are fighting against sexism.
/r/MensRights26/10/21 07:53 PM
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that's just a synonym nowadays
/r/MensRights26/10/21 07:50 PM
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No. "Feminazis" would get mad that the man is getting paid at all.
/r/MensRights26/10/21 07:47 PM
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Just cut the crap and say feminists. Regular, everyday feminists believe in the wage gap.
/r/MensRights26/10/21 07:45 PM
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What makes someone who is involuntarily celibate any less deserving of human rights? I thought that a human right, by definition, is "a right that is believed to belong justifiably to every person."
/r/MensRights26/10/21 07:44 PM
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"He works more hours than me and gets paid more than me. Obviously he gets paid more because of his gender."
/r/MensRights26/10/21 07:42 PM
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because he's an immature child who heard someone say something and thought it was cool.
/r/MensRights26/10/21 07:40 PM
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this is why people are clowning you lmao. just do yourself a favour and leave. there is no way someone can lack that much self awareness unironically. well i don’t mean to be a bitch but that’s not sexism. Gender roles aren't sexism? Aren't feminists the ones that started bitching about having to do the dishes or the laundry? Oh and btw, the grading bias is found to be most common in female teachers. Now unless they are all lesbian, I don't think they favour girls because they find them hot. i d…
/r/MensRights26/10/21 07:27 PM
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That's problematic. Wage gap is ingrained in everyone's heads but education gap is barely known. Hard to get any progress when all our findings are censored.
/r/MensRights26/10/21 03:00 AM
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More alarming than interesting, because I sure as hell am not interested in all this sexism.
/r/MensRights26/10/21 02:22 AM
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I see your wall of text, and raise you a bigger one. Think of the civil rights movement in the mid 20th centaury. The movement was largely focused on the rights of black people in the United States, but the end goal of that movement was racial equality. Did focusing on the rights of black people mean that the rights of other races were completely ignored? The end result was of that movement was better rights for all, even though it focused on black people. Great to hear but doesn't really compar…
/r/MensRights26/10/21 02:21 AM
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Oh yeah I agree completely. Just have two problems. One, if you only focus on advancing the rights of one gender, don't claim to be advancing the rights of both. Otherwise you confuse people and siphon support from the smaller movement. Two, can feminism like, stop shutting down our protests and mental health meetings? How can you expect us to "see them as allies," when they do that kinda shit? How can you expect us to see them as allies when so many of them have fought for regressive policy whe…
/r/MensRights26/10/21 12:16 AM
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Well, I don't mean to be a bitch about it but when I was younger I was always expected to do the heavy lifting in the household with my father. I doubt it's because I'm brown because we're both brown. It's funny, a lot of sexism I've seen happened in my youth. Teachers having favouritism towards girls in more ways than one, gender expectations etc. But a lot of misandry is really subtle. You won't know it's there until you research it. Like the 20% grading bias against boys, or men as a class pa…
/r/MensRights25/10/21 11:58 PM
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I'm not saying misogyny doesn't exist, but feminism has removed a lot more misogyny than they have misandry. You cannot deny that.
/r/MensRights25/10/21 11:49 PM
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Feminists would have you believe that their push to put an end to social norms such as "the damsel in distress", indirectly affects society's view on men being expendable in a positive way! I wish it did, as with many things but unfortunately, 9 times out of 10 that isn't the case. If it was I'd be a bit considerate of feminism but I don't know how they managed to do it, but in so many instances of misogyny being intertwined with misandry they've managed to surgically remove the misogyny while l…
/r/MensRights25/10/21 10:05 PM
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It's passive aggressive. It's plain insultive. And it's not going to win anyone over. If someone is going to get insulted by this, they aren't worth trying to win over.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/21 10:00 PM
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Wish I wasn't banned because I'm genuinely curious, and would like one of them to explain to me, why this comic isn't accurate. I want to see the reasoning behind their madness.
/r/AntiFeminists25/10/21 09:52 PM
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twox used to be so based. well, not based, but not as much of a shithole as it is now. as a matter of fact, reddit years ago was so much more accepting of men's issues. now if you so much as make a peep about them you'll get called an incel. What happened?
/r/AntiFeminists25/10/21 09:46 PM
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If it brings you any peace we downvoted them to oblivion
/r/AntiFeminists25/10/21 09:44 PM
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that's privilege right there lmao. yeah you don't have to be strong and fight, because you likely would not have faced the 20% grading bias that boys face.
/r/AntiFeminists25/10/21 09:42 PM
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both. first one's reasoning should be obvious, but second is a bit more complicated but if you really look into it there's lots of arguments against feminism that isn't about what people say on twitter.
/r/AntiFeminists25/10/21 09:37 PM
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doesn't mean shit if these so called "true feminists" aren't doing their part to call out these misandrists. And by call out I mean actively work to remove them from prominence, not conveniently say bad things about them whenever feminism gets called out.
/r/AntiFeminists25/10/21 09:32 PM
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shouldn’t all men be included in a men’s rights activism community? Yeah of course. But you're taking it the wrong way. I'm a brown man. I've got two things about me that people discriminate against me for. But in here, I'm not talking about the racism I face, I'm talking about the sexism I face. Same thing with gay men. probably only hating feminism because of the name Or hating feminism because it's a hate movement? It's not that hard to wrap your head around once you take off your rose-tinted…
/r/MensRights25/10/21 09:26 PM
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Yeah, I don't think a lot of people understand that equality means equal responsibilities as well.
/r/AntiFeminists25/10/21 09:15 PM
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Boo hoo, you were "treated as inferior." Real talk, I'll take an assumption of inferiority if it means I'm less disposable than the opposite gender in the time of crisis. I'll take that empty lifeboat even if it means being "treated as inferior," because why the hell would I care about what a conservative pundit has to say about my gender when I'm not the one sinking on the ship?
/r/MensRights25/10/21 09:13 PM
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Don't put words in my mouth lmao.
/r/MensRights25/10/21 08:51 PM
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ur proving my point that mens rights activists don’t care about the rights of gay and trans men And? Y'all already have the lgbt community. Why do you need another movement? most if not all of the world was built around men You're proving my point that feminism is just a cesspool of victim blaming. If you're gonna blame men for all the problems in the world, you gotta blame the women that gave birth to them too lmao. straight cis males do not have problems that need a whole movement I wonder why…
/r/MensRights25/10/21 08:49 PM
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Is reddit the only thing you have going for you in life? Do you need a hug?
/r/MensRights25/10/21 08:44 PM
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i rarely see points made about gay and trans men Why would you expect to see points made about them? Those are two completely different issues. Not everything bad that happens to a man is a men's rights issue. And the rest of your nonsense, god, you're doing an awful job convincing anyone that feminism is "inclusive towards men."
/r/MensRights25/10/21 06:50 PM
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They really should be together as one but it's a lost cause at this point. It's pretty much impossible to have genuine egalitarianism because of feminism.
/r/MensRights25/10/21 06:47 PM
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Username checks out
/r/MensRights25/10/21 06:45 PM
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Well, women make up the majority of voters. It's a damn miracle that so many power positions are held by men. Also, there are people who outright say they'd vote a candidate because they were a woman. I've never seen the reverse.
/r/MensRights25/10/21 06:43 PM
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those men, in turn, would have to heavily favour women because they make up a larger portion of their voters.
/r/MensRights25/10/21 06:40 PM
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The notion that our society favors women but somehow-someway, men manage to fight and claw their way to the top of every business, political, and military organization is absurd. How's it absurd? Maybe that's just fate. I will tell you this though, you're never going to hear someone say "I'm gonna vote for trump because he's a man" the same way people said they'd vote for Hilary because she's a woman.
/r/MensRights25/10/21 06:37 PM
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rich?
/r/MensRights25/10/21 06:35 PM
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Yeah you can support women and you can support men, but are you really going to support the woman in the post?
/r/MensRights25/10/21 06:34 PM
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Apparently, multiple studies have found that on average, male-sounding names are graded 20% harsher. The bias tends to be more common in female teachers as well. I mean, feminists can't do anything to a male adult physically, but they can really harm the children in more ways than one. (They can also harm adult males through legislation and taxation)
/r/MensRights25/10/21 06:33 PM
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Speaking of ignorance https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9v6tqj/a_list_about_feminism_misandry_for_anyone_who/ You ever hear about all this? Read it and tell me again how feminism is for equality.
/r/MensRights25/10/21 06:28 PM
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What does having small pp have to do with feminism?? Cuz feminism is full of those people
/r/MensRights25/10/21 06:17 PM
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I am a man myself. Why do you feel the need to preface this if we are all equal irrespective of gender? You're preaching to the wrong crowd if you are trying to get people to "not put each other down." It's hilarious to me that you prioritise changing the harmful opinions of such a small movement over the harmful opinions of a movement that has disciples everywhere. You say we are attacking a "growing gender equality movement" but in reality we are attacking a growing hateful and inconsistent su…
/r/MensRights25/10/21 06:15 PM
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movember?
/r/MensRights25/10/21 06:09 PM
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It's about the double standard, not your own moral code.
/r/MensRights25/10/21 06:06 PM
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I don't know, live and let live is my motto. But I think trans issues are a completely separate thing from men's issues.
/r/MensRights25/10/21 06:04 PM
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What he said is no better than a feminist who says something like "the amount of men i speak to who think women are inferior to them is horrible!" I don't think you're making as much of a point as you think you're making. I don't really care about either, they are inconsequential as long as they aren't used to hate-monger.
/r/MensRights25/10/21 01:00 AM
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you won't be missed
/r/MensRights24/10/21 03:33 PM
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well yeah the whole point of the post is about anecdotal evidence. he's not claiming to have sources.
/r/MensRights24/10/21 03:31 PM
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that's not what a strawman is lmao. I'm just mocking you blaming complex and multi-faceted issues on a fairy tale.
/r/MensRights24/10/21 03:26 PM
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"everything I disagree with is patriarchy"
/r/MensRights24/10/21 03:20 PM
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You are right. Reverse inequality should happen for as long as it did in the past to ensure real equality. So I'm sure this same feminist is perfectly alright with a female-only draft for the next 100 years right?
/r/MensRights24/10/21 01:55 PM
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For real lmao. All they can think about is other people's dicks.
/r/MensRights24/10/21 01:53 PM
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Nobody's going out of their way to make themselves the victim, I just see a bunch of insecure people going out of their way to shame others. Besides, isn't it kind of telling that your go to insult for a perceived insecure person is a slight against their genitals? Are you trying to tell us something?
/r/MensRights23/10/21 04:11 PM
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I'm pretty sure it originated from what you said and has just transformed into irrational hate for sports cars. Either way, it is an extremely weird insult to use and it is telling of the person who uses it. Imagine being so insecure that when someone does something you don't like, your first move is to shame what you think their dick looks like.
/r/MensRights22/10/21 08:01 PM
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"karen" is not really shaming a body part though. plus, the using the term "karen" often just shows how desperately someone wants to fit in. how much someone uses terms like this reveals a lot about them.
/r/MensRights22/10/21 07:59 PM
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men face 63% harsher punishments for similar crimes in comparison to women. female-on-male rape is not legally recognized in various countries. stop with the "actual feminist" bullshit. actual feminists, who have actual impacts, have prevented female-on-male rape from being recognize, and advocate for even lighter sentences for females because they can't fathom the fact a woman might just be a bad person.
/r/MensRights22/10/21 06:23 PM
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I mean, there was an extremely sexist song called "boys will be boys" that was very popular and did not face backlash, so this should be ok.
/r/MensRights22/10/21 06:19 PM
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Then wouldn't using the term "small dick energy" be small dick energy? Like it's clear the only people who unironically use it have an inferiority complex themselves.
/r/MensRights22/10/21 06:17 PM
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after seeing the controversial comments on this thread, y'all better not ever complain about misogyny on this sub lmao.
/r/MensRights22/10/21 06:15 PM
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they say people who "drive sports cars" have small dick energy. it is absolutely used to try and shame others into doing or not doing what you want them to do.
/r/MensRights22/10/21 06:12 PM
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but muh wage gap
/r/MensRights22/10/21 06:06 PM
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I mean, when men having shorter lives on average than women is part of the criteria of "gender equality" for UN women, it's hard not to wonder.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 11:28 PM
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Agree, but you can't put the onus on one movement's influences. Could be a lot of reasons why they did what they did. Hell, even feminism itself could be one of the reasons (as told in some of the suicide notes by the shooters). But what I linked is extremely sturdy evidence, no stretches needed.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 09:00 PM
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The only people who would say mens rights would be MRAs. Literally everyone else would say feminist, whether they agree with gender equality or not. More specifically, everyone else would say advancing women's rights and position. Even the "bbq in texas" would probably be thinking of feminists when they tell you "bullshit." You greatly underestimate just how big of a grasp feminism has on this topic.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 08:48 PM
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what's a comment on a forum going to do? especially versus what I just linked.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 08:46 PM
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I'm not even talking about equity, it's just that feminism has made equality synonymous with benefiting women and so even if they are already equal or in more of an advantage, society will never look to improve the position of their men. Even people arguing against radical feminism to make their movement look good, you can tell that their definition of equality is still not actual equality.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 08:41 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9v6tqj/a_list_about_feminism_misandry_for_anyone_who/ Here's a list. Could add a lot more in the three years that have passed. What would a feminist tell you if they asked why this movement was misogynistic? Some guy on reddit said "woman bad" and got 2 upvotes?
/r/MensRights21/10/21 08:39 PM
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Yeah, but when you talk about gender equality, what do you think the average person thinks of?
/r/MensRights21/10/21 08:36 PM
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Not necessarily the exact same. The rationale is different. They use random comments of online forums to justify their conclusions, we use quotable and tangible examples from the real world.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 08:35 PM
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I guess so. Also worth noting how problematic it is when gender equality is synonymous with benefiting women as much as possible. There's a lot out there that think that way and they aren't a minority at all.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 08:33 PM
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Ok. I have a question to ask you. When people think of gender equality, what comes up in their head first?
/r/MensRights21/10/21 08:32 PM
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Hmm. I agree, only a minority are that bad. But I still think there are too large of a majority of people who tolerate and stand by the misandry from those extremists.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 08:24 PM
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It's difficult to bring light to men's issues so long as feminism does what it does and make false narratives.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 06:22 PM
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I agree with most of what you said, but they aren't the minority, and can't be ignored.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 06:19 PM
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thing is, elliot rodgers didn't even hinder the feminist movement at all. if anything, it gave them reason to be even more mad via martyrdom. but the harm feminism does to men's movement is very hard to work around.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 06:18 PM
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the people who follow the definition are the fringe supporters though. what you need to understand is even if they aren't completely radical, there is still a lot of widespread, subtle sexism within the feminism community and it has tangible effects.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 06:14 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/q2mgzo/how\_do\_we\_see\_women/
/r/MensRights20/10/21 05:53 PM
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you know you can be against both right?
/r/MensRights20/10/21 05:52 PM
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rightfully so. shit is downright ridiculous.
/r/MensRights20/10/21 05:50 PM
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I have already read the Reddit rules and telling a person not to generalize isn't "brigading." I feel like giving you an award or something. It's actually amazing how good some people are at aggressively misunderstanding everything you say. Like honestly, based on your childish behaviour this alone, I'm inclined not to take everything else you say seriously. https://www.reddit.com/r/modhelp/comments/8knj9n/what_is_reddits_policy_regarding_brigading/ If you aren't purposely being obtuse, and genu…
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 09:01 PM
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That's true, but in this case it's mostly reactionary to feminism. If you wanna get rid of the symptoms, cure the disease. Also there's no guarantee OP is for equality. I'm for it and wouldn't generalize but I cannot guarantee what the thoughts of others are.
/r/MensRights19/10/21 08:56 PM
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agreed
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 08:24 PM
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supremacy. bit of an extremist position for sure but seeing what I've seen, it's hard for me to ignore the possibility.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 08:05 PM
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so empowering lmao
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 08:02 PM
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How do you like it when people say all men are rapists? I don't really care, depending on who says it. If your average sexist told me it, it wouldn't bother me much. But I find it really interesting that the only people who say stuff like that happen to be feminists, who are supposedly against blanket statements. It's crazy to me.
/r/MensRights19/10/21 07:56 PM
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I don't think you would be saying this things if you were satisfied with your place in life. Or maybe we are just frustrated at the amount of gender-based discrimination we face? I mean, you're talking about a rich celebrity getting away with saying bad stuff, but we have a bunch of regular people who can get away with saying "kill all men". Do yourself a favour and scroll through some of the posts on this sub. Guarantee you'll find some very interesting studies. After you've done so, come back …
/r/MensRights19/10/21 07:53 PM
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both words have lost meaning. both are just about family lineage.
/r/MensRights19/10/21 07:50 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/bh97hk/heres_a_comprehensive_study_from_the_mit_school/ get better grades? as in earn or gifted?
/r/MensRights19/10/21 07:49 PM
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society has built itself around right handedness considerably though. when it comes to utensils that have right hand version and left hand version, the left hand version tends to be more expensive. plus, it is a lot easier to right left to right with right hand than left, but tbh it's just nitpicky at this point. post makes some good points but also some nonsensical ones.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 07:47 PM
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Am I not allowed to come here from another post? Don't clown emoji me when you haven't read reddit rules. You actually aren't allowed to go to the crossposted post and brigade. Subs that partake in mass brigading are liable to bans, and I imagine you wouldn't want your safe haven of misandry gone. No it’s not funny that a feminist is telling someone not to generalize. It is. Feminism's whole spiel is to generalize men to gain sympathy for their cause. It's funny as hell that now we've moved to t…
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 07:44 PM
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damn. how much do they pay these retards to write articles?
/r/MensRights19/10/21 07:35 PM
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I'm glad it's not the other way around, aka not being gender neutral and marketed as otherwise.
/r/MensRights19/10/21 07:28 PM
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they used to beat the left handedness out of children
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 07:23 PM
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being a lefty is expensive for certain things so they have a point. but the rest is just ridiculous lmao.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 07:22 PM
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Tell them feminism was made by a man, and a good chunk of suffragettes were also men. reality that they don't wanna accept is that feminism wouldn't have gotten anywhere if men didn't also help them out. This apathy and tribalism genuinely baffles me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/21 02:11 AM
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It just seems like gender roles are fine when men have them, [...] whilst people do call out others judging women for the gender roles and expectations that some have for them. Has a lot of connections to actual legislation as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/21 02:02 AM
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really concerning if someone actually thinks that way. though I wouldn't be surprised. lots of crazy people out there.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 01:59 AM
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Don't lie lmao. When have anti-feminists made big articles about womanspreading, the way feminists have? Anyway, at this point you are just trolling so I will block you.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 01:51 AM
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do you know what trivial means? it means not important. I see some feminists crying about men spreading their legs.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 01:48 AM
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I don't care who espouses what with who. I care that there is sexist slavery going on and it should be ended. I do not care about privileged people crying about trivial things.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 01:44 AM
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See how far you have gone? You are calling the slavery of exclusively men "misogyny." Nobody would ever call women's oppression "misandry." That is just wrong. I'm not talking about throughout history. I'm taking about right now at this very moment. People are being forced into military service as we speak.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 01:40 AM
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Effort should be going to make the world less shit then. Take for example, conscription. Conscription is very shit, and if I have not said already, borderline slavery. But I do not want women to do conscription too, I want men to not have to do conscription.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 01:34 AM
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They should have no civil issues. That is the side I'm on.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 01:30 AM
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It's not the worst thing but it is most certainly worse than nothing. And if that is feminism's theory, I hate it even more now.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 01:24 AM
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"I have a black friend, I'm not racist"
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 01:20 AM
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No, you have come and disputed every single statistic and study provided to you and saying "they feel more afraid so they have it worse." Use common sense. If someone has a bigger fear of dying than you, but you have a higher chance to actually die, who is more at risk? Who has it worse?
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 01:16 AM
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It doesn't matter. If you use that as an excuse to not get them help they need you are undoubtedly a sexist.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 01:12 AM
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I know, but they never made a big deal about gender, only biological sex. Anyway you have moved way past the conversation. I have already showed you the biggest problem with feminism and if you don't want to keep an open mind, fine. But do not expect us to do the same for you.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 01:10 AM
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Was it not the lgbt community that made huge noise about gender though?
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 01:06 AM
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exactly. but in the case of sexism, both are struggling, not just one, so we should feed them equal amounts of medicine.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 01:06 AM
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Homophobia is not sexism. A concept of gender is not sexism either. But stop shifting the subject. You know very well that barely any people talk about regular sexism against men.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 01:02 AM
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I think there is zero point in comparing the two because it is clear we will just keep disagreeing. Instead of trying to make it a competition of which is worse why not accept both are equally bad?
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:57 AM
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gay men suffer homophobia. they talk about homophobia against gay men, not sexism.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:57 AM
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You don't understand cause and effect. Realize, if the media keeps talking about gender inequality and sexism, but only show how women suffer from it, what will people think sexism looks like? They will think only women face sexism, and only women will be helped. Nobody will know the ways boys and men face inhuman sexism. That is the big problem.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:54 AM
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Would rather that than beaten every day
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:49 AM
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Interesting. They also enslave their men when they turn 18. Yes it is a reason to debunk modern feminism if it keeps insisting only women suffer oppression or sexism.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:48 AM
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beating is worse or better? to me beating is worse because it can have long lasting effects (broken bones) and worse short effects (immediate pain). If someone groped me I would be very uncomfortable and feel violated, but I would take that over a violent beating any day.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:47 AM
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I'd rather be seen as a dildo than die or forced into slavery or sent to fight in a war.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:46 AM
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that's why I included violently beaten. now answer, inappropriately touched or violently beaten? which one is worse to you honest opinion.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:45 AM
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sexism is also the thing that put men on that severe position too no? I'm not denying both genders face sexism but you act like one has it way worse than the other when in reality it is not even close to the truth.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:41 AM
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Idk about you, but I'd rather get inappropriately touched than murdered or violently beaten. Wouldn't you? If you had to choose one of the three of course.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:40 AM
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Men can get raped too lmao. It's not a thing only women experience. Statistically, men experience more violent crime, so they have more reason to be afraid.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:38 AM
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Yeah, you see the world as something it isn't. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/q1zohg/society_is_more_hostile_towards_men_than_women/
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:37 AM
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no, they don't. just because you feel in danger doesn't mean you are in danger.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:34 AM
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the incel thing is one in a million. it's like being afraid to go outside because a plane will land on you. and yes, there was. feminists did bombings back in the day.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:33 AM
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their definition of subjugation is very odd
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:07 AM
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well that's a shame then if yours is. perhaps consider that there are other, more glaring issues where you live than gender specifics? Like a neighbourhood with high violent crime rate I'd understand, but it isn't a gender specific issue still. the women I know aren't this paranoid about going outside.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:06 AM
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yes, against boys. it's not difficult to understand.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/21 12:04 AM
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Not even sure honestly. I'm not the best example of an altruistic person but I do think for the sake of the male friends I have I wouldn't be a feminist. Feminism at this point, is just as much possible advantages for women at the expense of men. Naturally, men should be against this, but for women, it is a test of character whether you are anti-feminist or feminist. So I don't know if I'd be a feminist if I were a woman but the answer would reveal a lot about myself.
/r/AntiFeminists18/10/21 08:50 PM
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Yes, people tend to be very selfish.
/r/AntiFeminists18/10/21 08:48 PM
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On the topic of patriarchy, it seems intriguing to me that most "patriarchies" still treat their women extremely favourably in many aspects whereas most examples of matriarchies in the world just treat their men like shit.
/r/AntiFeminists18/10/21 08:45 PM
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asia? most asian countries have mandatory military service, which is basically slavery for 2 years minimum. and guess what, it's only done to boys.
/r/AntiFeminists18/10/21 08:41 PM
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if you are afraid to leave your house, that's your problem.
/r/AntiFeminists18/10/21 08:41 PM
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then why wasn't that the rebuttal rather than the moronic response given, which also received upvotes?
/r/AntiFeminists18/10/21 08:32 PM
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jesus what a retarded rebuttal. you gave them actual, factual statistics and they respond with that. my goodness.
/r/AntiFeminists18/10/21 08:31 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/q2mgzo/how_do_we_see_women/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/q1zohg/society_is_more_hostile_towards_men_than_women/
/r/MensRights18/10/21 08:10 PM
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by making them physically weaker? I'm not a fan of that lmao. can't imagine any sane man would be either.
/r/MensRights18/10/21 08:04 PM
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Average joe lacks technique though. I think the lowest echelon of male fighters could probably beat the champion but average joe is a huge stretch. Fighting is one of the most difficult sports in the world and you need a lot more than upper body strength to win.
/r/MensRights18/10/21 03:16 AM
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If you are so mad about someone doing something to you, don't do it to others. If you're going to do it to others don't cry about misplaced anger when they rightfully get pissed at you.
/r/MensRights18/10/21 03:13 AM
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It's relatively new. I think it started in 2017? Well, if it had results immediately, I commend it. Good to hear progress is being made. you must then acknowledge that men who tear down other men for seeking therapy are the ones contributing to that system. No doubt, but I'm not going to solely blame men as if women don't do the same. But like I said, there's clearly something wrong within the therapeutic system itself that seems to be failing men. The study showing 91 percent of men who committ…
/r/MensRights17/10/21 09:08 PM
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Colorado schools implemented "social-emotional learning" in several districts What year was this? Change needs to start from within. Men need to get over themselves and acknowledge that feelings exist. I'm 99% sure that most men already acknowledge that feelings exist. What a strawman. But acknowledging that feelings exist, as if we already didn't, isn't going to solve all our problems. You are greatly exaggerating the stoicism of the average man. We aren't all Bruce Wayne wannabes. 91 percent o…
/r/MensRights17/10/21 04:43 AM
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It's just statistics. Nothing to do with trash talk.
/r/MensRights17/10/21 04:02 AM
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give it two years then maybe
/r/MensRights17/10/21 04:01 AM
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It's not my argument so I shouldn't stick my nose in, but damn that part of the comment hurt my head. Noticed a bit of tribalism in your comment though.
/r/MensRights17/10/21 03:58 AM
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Yes, because I asked you how to fix this, and that's what you replied. The thing is, I'm not asking you an individual scale solution, because one man can't change the tide. I'm asking what we can do on a systematic widespread level to help combat this inequality.
/r/MensRights17/10/21 03:56 AM
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For the record, I don't necessarily care much about college underrepresantation anyway. Seems to me like more boys would rather not have to deal with a gargantuan amount of debt for a useless degree, then whine to the government about it. But really, the only one crying here is you. Bitching about "toxic masculinity". There's nothing that screams being a crybaby more than crying about things that don't exist. Honestly, if all our problems stemmed from the supposed inability to cry, we wouldn't h…
/r/MensRights17/10/21 03:52 AM
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