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Interesting journal I found on a PUA forum today https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/100-approaches.251860/
/r/seduction07/09/18 07:23 PM
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some very blue pilled comments here lol. Looks are super important. If she thinks you're ugly, you have like zero chance of banging her using 'game'. Just think about it! Try to imagine some 5ft ugly dude using all these tactics on some smoking hot blonde in a bar thinking it's gonna get her wanting to bang him. ''You and I wouldn't get along! We'd always fight and i'd always win!!'' , ''sorry you're not my type....'', ''what do you have going for you other than your looks?!! If nothing, i'm not…
/r/seduction15/08/18 03:27 PM
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That's in France dude. Every country has different laws and rules
/r/seduction29/06/18 12:19 PM
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I'm fairly ugly facially, but I dress nice and work out and am well groomed. I have pulled a few 9's (1 in a million lottery wins! :)), although they were girls who had crazy weird taste in guys and what they consider 'handsome' (as mentioned before). Usually, I can pull 5's, but that's it. THe hotter girls feel more entitled to the super handsome studs as a result of tinder (in my opinion) and will just reject me and my uglier friends all night long. My handsome friends get laid like rockstars …
/r/seduction31/05/18 04:05 PM
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you said you were an 8/10 - most good looking guys confuse good looks with 'game' lol. You might think i'm being mean, but I think it's mean to tell some ugly dude that he's doing something 'wrong' with his 'game' when the super hot 10//10 isn't interested in him despite him approaching at a 45 degree angle, using a FTC followed by an opinion opener and then negging her about her false nails and then telling a DHV story about how he saved his model exgirlfriend from a polar bear and then he asks…
/r/seduction31/05/18 02:18 PM
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I think my problem is that the girls I want (hot club teenagers half my age! lol) don't care about that sort of stuff in my experience! YOu could be unemployed and a complete deadbeat, but if they think you are 'hot' they are all over you lol. But yeah, I agree that older girls certainly care more about having lots of money and 'success' and stuff. I guess they're more looking to 'settle down' and so they want someone who can provide for them cheers
/r/seduction31/05/18 01:25 PM
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explain how this works? Like, how does working on your career make girls flock to you? Do you mean they see you wearing a rolex watch and open you in bars or whatever?
/r/seduction31/05/18 12:16 PM
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I agree to some extent. I'm not 'incel' though (if you were referring to me). Like, I have a fairly respectable slay count. I'm on the ugly side, but i'm not hideous. IN fact, one of my biggest theories is that even though teh girl has to think you are handsome, it DOESN'T mean that you have to be conventionally handsome (cerainly increases your odds though!! :)). Fact is, some (hot) girls have weird taste in men! Last year, I banged my idea of a '9' who was a teenager and half my age, and I kno…
/r/seduction31/05/18 11:33 AM
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Most of your list is about looking better : clothes, hair, better looking face, ripped body etc At least we are starting to get more realistic and not believing in fairytales about 'game' anymore. She needs to think you are handsome for you to have a shot at getting her in bed. 'Game' without that won't cut the mustard However, for lots of people, surgery is the only thing that will make them handsome tbh
/r/seduction31/05/18 09:45 AM
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I wonder myself. I mean, I guess so. BUT if you are that much of a troll, you are honestly just as crazy as the person who you are pretending to be!! Either way, he's a complete nut bar.
/r/seduction30/05/18 08:59 PM
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yep. I'm not even kidding. He has 2 other questions (one about girls mocking him and I somehow forget the other quetsions) which he has also posted about 100 times each. He needs to be in a padded cell. As soon as possible
/r/seduction30/05/18 08:57 PM
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Strangest guy in the freaking world lol
/r/seduction30/05/18 08:56 PM
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haha, if only you knew!! He's actually posted this question approx. 120 times
/r/seduction30/05/18 08:56 PM
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nice. You must be beyond handsome! lol
/r/seduction30/05/18 07:17 PM
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Basically the antithesis of the mystery method
/r/seduction30/05/18 01:18 PM
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I get hit up by 15 year olds on my dms to smash Are these girls you know or random teens message you on facebook or whatever looking to get smashed? You handsome as hell, bro?!! i'm jelly
/r/seduction30/05/18 08:15 AM
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I feel like we haven't even BEGUN to truly understand the effect that social media has had. I think the effect is likely gargantuan
/r/seduction30/05/18 07:54 AM
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Online coaching!? I don't see why you wouldn't just get 'the natural' course. Probably get it for free pretty easily!
/r/seduction29/05/18 07:35 PM
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Field Report - When people basically tell you what happened on their day/night out, how their approaches went, what they talked about, etc etc
/r/seduction29/05/18 06:09 PM
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Nice, man! Did your friend bang her, I take it? I know i'm gonna get downvoted for asking this, but is your friend a pretty good looking dude? Oh, and age of the girls and your friend? Anyway, i've managed to bang 2 girls from cold approach who were way way out of my league so I know it's possible. (One was last year and she was literally exactly half my age! She was like my idea of a 9. I'm like a 3) However, I should say that even though i'm ugly in most peoples opinions, both of them hot girl…
/r/seduction29/05/18 06:07 PM
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I think it's about percentages or 'weighting' for each trait. For example, if you have lots of confidence and a good sense of humour but she thinks you are physically ugly, then you have like a 2% chance of actually getting her in bed. She'll 'like' you, but not LIKE you! If she thinks you look like a God, but you don't have a sense of humour and have no money, you still have like a 40% chance I think good looks HAS to be the most important (most FR's here will testify to that) and CONFIDENCE (w…
/r/seduction29/05/18 04:45 PM
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what are you complimenting them on??
/r/seduction29/05/18 02:35 PM
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lol
/r/seduction29/05/18 11:30 AM
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unfortunately, 'improving your looks' means very expensive and risky surgery for most of us. Easier said than done! You can be ripped and with good fashion, but if you are legit ugly, you are screwed. No girl will be remotely interested.
/r/seduction22/05/18 12:57 PM
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he did say he was good-looking I can't believe everyone missed that bit loll Of course girls are gonna be fighting to have sex with you and throwing themselves at you if you are good looking! lol
/r/seduction22/05/18 12:55 PM
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Being good looking is the secret. With tinder, 'game' is even LESS necessary. Just have them meet you in a hotel room or at your place and get straight to the sex.
/r/seduction21/05/18 11:05 AM
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I feel like I've read this about 100 times, and that's not even an exaggeration lol
/r/seduction21/05/18 10:03 AM
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Are they even the same person?
/r/seduction20/05/18 07:00 PM
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Good FR. No idea why it's been downvoted.
/r/seduction20/05/18 04:12 PM
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5 'no girls' and 1 'yes girl'. Not bad. The 4 who rejected you, you never stood a shot with, and the one who smiled at your direct opener you obviously could've banged and you were a bit unlucky. I don't think actualy 'feedback' in terms of an FR is meaningful. No matter how good your 'game', the result would have been the same with the 'no girls'
/r/seduction16/05/18 08:36 PM
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yeah, i'm not gonna lie. Most of my examples are also of good looking guys. (although there are 1 or 2 exceptions). I guess in general, if you are really good looking, you can get away with almost anything and still get laid most nights
/r/seduction16/05/18 08:22 PM
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yes
/r/seduction16/05/18 07:37 PM
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I can see how this could be a bit depressing to some, but in a way, it's kind of a weight off of ones mind. The 'pressure' disappears. You don't need to worry about the perfect opener, thinking of a good tease, remembering to neg after the open, etc etc etc. If she thinks you are handsome, everything will just 'fall into place' (you of course will need to escalate, usually). If she doesn't think you are hot, then, move on. You ain't gonna get her. No amount of DHV stories and teases and good bod…
/r/seduction16/05/18 03:58 PM
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seddit isn't about needing to be handsome/tall/have hair etc to get girls, just so you now ;) (don't want you getting banned! lol) The idea is that 'game' is enough
/r/seduction16/05/18 02:45 PM
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So I need to murder my wife? Is there another way? Lines to say to her in set for example?
/r/seduction16/05/18 12:06 PM
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There's no such thing as 'wrong' in game. Whatever you do will be 'wrong' according to some PUA, but correct according too others. (for example, Mysterymethod and Mark Manson are polar opposites on every single nuance of pickup/game)
/r/seduction16/05/18 09:39 AM
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wow, you've gone from reading one extreme in Manson (direct, show intent, show your hand) to the other extreme in mystery (Indirect, don't show intent until she does, showing your hand is weakenss etc) Easy to get super confused about pickup though when reading experts who 100% disagree on every single nuance of 'game'. Can make you start to wonder whether game eve exists (like, how can it if different experts do everything completely different lol) YOu kind of start to second guess every single…
/r/seduction16/05/18 09:29 AM
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lol exactly! I almost couldn't be bothered to reply to the OP but I also have so so many examples of shit like you describe. Getting your life in check is 100% irrelevant when it comes to getting laid
/r/seduction16/05/18 09:13 AM
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Also, the ''I'm looking for.....your number'' opener would have worked on some girls, or girls who thought you were hot, and then everyone would be like ''Brilliant opener, dude!!!'' Basically, i'd be tempted too ignore the advice you get. You didn't really do anything wrong
/r/seduction16/05/18 09:08 AM
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That being said, your openers are really bad. sounds like he's just adopting the Mark Manson approach, to be fair. Direct and vulnerable
/r/seduction16/05/18 09:07 AM
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agreed lol
/r/seduction16/05/18 09:04 AM
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Nah,being good with girls has nothing at all to do with accomplishing stuff in other parts of life.
/r/seduction16/05/18 09:03 AM
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lol, where did I say I idolised him? And also, I don't know that that's how he done it. He maybe just had made 'game' lol. Or maybe the girls tried to seduce him due to possible work benefits/future promotion etc. Who knows. ew
/r/seduction09/02/18 11:05 AM
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Dunno but my ex's dad used to be in charge of a massive company, and he'd bang every hot 18 year old intern girl that they hired. I have no idea whether he had great game, whether the girls initiated it due to the possibility of 'climbing the corportate ladder' or whether he basically made it a 'you sleep with me or lose your job' kind of thing! I don't think it's the same with a DJ/Photography gig. It's kind of cool, but it's not just gonna wanna make girls wanna bang you. I've never DJ'd and I…
/r/seduction09/02/18 09:39 AM
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well I've read the mysterymethod so I assume that will suffice. So you are saying that specifically negging/using DHVstories will allow you to pick up hot girls every day of the week? (even if you can't keep them)
/r/seduction04/12/17 03:54 PM
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You're missing the forest for the trees here. That was in reply to me comment ''Is it the emphasis on negs in the early stages? The 'waiting for her to show her interest first' side of things? The idea of 'routines'/rehearsed stories to fill in silences and build value? Something else i'm missing?'' The thing is, i'm not recommending them things or asking for advice about them I'm just trying to work out what specifically in terms of OUTERGAME it is about old school game that people attribute it…
/r/seduction04/12/17 03:51 PM
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just trying to bang
/r/seduction04/12/17 08:53 AM
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Lets assume for a second that one is content with the idea that such old school game might lead to bad relationships and inner demons, but with lots of sex with hot girls What aspects of old school game do you feel have the upper hand over more 'natural' game in this respect? Is it the emphasis on negs in the early stages? The 'waiting for her to show her interest first' side of things? the specific order of things in terms of A1, A2, A3? The idea of 'routines'/rehearsed stories to fill in silen…
/r/seduction04/12/17 08:49 AM
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i'd be fine with that. But is it really THAT effective?! It sounds more like voodoo/witchcraft if just saying some lines in the right sequence could really get you laid every day with whoever you want, lol So how are you defining 'old game?'
/r/seduction03/12/17 09:00 PM
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False. One wonders where you're getting this from. Initially 'the mystery method' who I gather is the godfather of pickup, but also RSDTodd who, since he left RSD, has made it clear that he thinks the reason that people don't get results, is because of the change from 'rule based/structured game' to 'just do and say what you want and hope she likes you 'natural game'' stuff that is much more heavily promoted nowadays He says the former (more mystery method concepts) is what gets people consisten…
/r/seduction03/12/17 08:32 PM
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we've been downvoted, lol. This sub has so many weird people who downvote everything on here!! haha
/r/seduction21/09/17 04:15 PM
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I was 18 and went to the pub to see my friend who was sitting down with some random girl. She turned out to be 16 but in was a shit pub and the staff didn't really care (UK for the win!!) She was sitting opposite me and after a while we exchanged a few flirty comments and she was eye fucking me big time. Then I went to the bar to get a beer, she came up to join me after a few seconds, and then started rubbing her knee against my junk and looking at me. After a while we decided to move on too a d…
/r/seduction21/09/17 12:31 PM
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I don't think it's about skill. For example, i'm useless with girls and get rejected non-stop, but I lost my virginity a long time ago with an alley bang, lol.
/r/seduction21/09/17 10:54 AM
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a girl that is not into you This is the important bit, lol. And the bit that people seem to gloss over more and more in the industry! it's quite funny. I read FR's sometimes, and the guy has opened, he's getting ignored by the girl, after a while he ejects, and then all of the replies are like ''Dude, you should have made out with her and suggested bouncing to your place!!''. It's like people forget the mots important bit and take the 'assume attraction' stuff too a whole new crazy level as if s…
/r/seduction20/09/17 04:28 PM
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So what would you have said? Give me a pretend conversation that you might have had with a group of 5 girls sitting at a table drinking, and then yo approach them. (the reason I mentioned about 'things changing' is because I seem to see lots of advice recently about saying the strangest/crazsiest things as to not bore girls, but if you read pickup material written from 10-20 years back, that wasn't teh case) but given your field report, I would advise focusing on more general social skills and s…
/r/seduction13/09/16 09:25 AM
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I'm willing to try asking them sort of questions off the bat, but i'll be honest in that I think they'll just look at each other like I'm mentally sub normal, lol. ''Hey, girls, Do you like pudding?'' I mean, I know people like simplepickup say ridiculous stuff, but is it necessary? Does pickup 'have' to be to try to show how crazy you are? Like, i'm currently reading Rooshv bang, and he just seems to ask normal questions like a normal person, but maybe things have changed? I know that some pick…
/r/seduction13/09/16 07:39 AM
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Looks AREN'T EVERYTHING! But they are DAMN important. A girl needs to think you look somewhat hot. At that point, it's still easy to fuck things up and get nowhere. This is where things like knowing what to say, not be needy/creepy/make her feel comfortable etc etc come into play. You could call that game. Put a guy with amazing game in a super ugly latex mask and see how he does with hot girls in a club. You need to realise that most of the PUA's are frauds selling a dream! Also, i'm not even s…
/r/seduction08/07/16 08:37 AM
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I believe you and your stories of success, too!! :)
/r/seduction08/07/16 08:22 AM
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i get laid most nights with stunners :)
/r/seduction08/07/16 08:15 AM
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lol. I know game :) - It's just nowhere near as important as looks. Game is to help you bed girls (WHO THINK YOU ARE HOT) who are putting up some resistance for various reaqsons. Lots of bullshit artits and fantasists on this sub pretending to be slaying girls every night
/r/seduction08/07/16 07:50 AM
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if she tihnks he's handsome, that'll do just fine
/r/seduction08/07/16 07:46 AM
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correct :) - Just be VERY fucking handsome, lol, and she'll be yours for the night!
/r/seduction08/07/16 07:32 AM
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they bail because they have better looking guys contacting them. Nothing to do with how he phrased it, lol.
/r/seduction08/07/16 07:30 AM
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can you learn anything from your friends who have loads of sex? How do they do it~?
/r/seduction06/07/16 10:07 PM
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Isn't it simply a case of your friends being very good looking?! That's really all there is to pulling girls. I think 'game' is simply something that helps people 'close' (with girls who already think you are physically attractive). You can't use it to trick a girl into thinking you are hot What do your friends who tell you to be more straight froward in what you want say to girls? How do they open? They probably don't even use 'game' - just rely on their good looks which makes it easy to be dir…
/r/seduction03/07/16 09:26 AM
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I tend to agree that it's not a good idea to try to pick up hot girls whilst they are working. There's a stunning girl who works in a bar near where I live, and she spends all night rejecting the advances of the customers trying to pull her. They all think they have a shot because she's 'nice' to them, but they do't realise that it's just because it's her job to be nice! lol. I'd only sugggest trying it if you happen to look like a male model!! Then you might have some success
/r/seduction03/07/16 09:17 AM
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Personally, I just lie! I tend to go for girls as young as possible (16 is legal here) and i'm nearly 30. I tend to tell girls i'm 22 and i'm yet to be 'called on it'. I had sex with an 18 year old a little while ago, and if I had have told her my real age, there is NO WAY she would have let me fvck her.
/r/seduction03/07/16 09:13 AM
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give me your tinder tips!! I get no love on tinder :( I take it you're very good looking Anyway, why even worry about cold approaches if you can get girls on tinder so easily? I'd just carry on as you are!
/r/seduction12/06/16 03:27 PM
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I used to worry about this sort of thing, but As time goes by, i'm convinced that everyone is basically the same at the actual act of sex, so I wouldn't worry about it too much! When it comes to penetration, there's only so much you can make your dick do! It just goes in and out at different speeds. Everyone thinks they're a sex God, but they're all probably not much different in terms of 'abililty' than they were on their first time. The only tihngs that might have changed are that they know mo…
/r/seduction11/06/16 10:31 AM
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you could have just ignored his post dude. He even mentioned about how he wanted specific advice and wasn't interested in moralising. Anyway, i'd guess both direct and indirect could work? A direct compliment runs the risk of creeping her out if she sees you as 'old', but it could also get her emotions going as lots of guys her own age might not have teh guts to pay her a direct compliment/or be very 'froward' in person? (I tihnk kids are only really 'brave' online) If you're in teh UK, this isn…
/r/seduction11/06/16 10:24 AM
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:)
/r/seduction05/06/16 01:33 PM
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I tihnk the best looking guy will 'WIN' and he'll be fucking her. If that's you then good!
/r/seduction05/06/16 12:13 PM
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I'v got a lightly different opinion. I remember the first time I had sex, I was able to last a long amount of time (nearly an hour), i'd watched a lot of porn and so i knew about positions, and the girl had no idea it was my first time. In fact, she said something later about how id' likely slept with lots of girls. lol. I think some people have had sex with lots of girls and are still 'bad' at sex. In fact, i'm not even sure it's possible to be 'bad' or 'good' at sex. Everyone thinks they're go…
/r/seduction05/06/16 11:27 AM
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I could be way off base, but one of my friends whose always fucked girls recently game out as 'bi', and he's told me that the gay scene is completely unfucking believeable in terms of how easy it is. I really am not sure 'game' is required! I guess it's fairly superficial and based on looks (like straight dating is in fairness, despite what these PUA coaches will try to have you believe), but moreso, and from what he tells me everyone is very very forward and open. Everyone is at it like rabbits…
/r/seduction02/06/16 06:27 PM
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how did you get increase confidence and get over your anxiety?? And well done :)
/r/seduction31/05/16 05:45 PM
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not that I tend to use 'are you having a good night'', but I don't understand why it's 'bad' or why it doesn't fullfill the ''i'd like to have a conversation with you'' criteria. It's almost the only opener I ever hear guys using, and i've witnessed conversations happen from this point. What is a 'good' direct and a good indirect opener for a UK girl in a bar in your opinion? She's just standing near you drinking her drink
/r/seduction20/05/16 12:57 PM
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Yeah, i'm with you in that I don't really care, too. I've had lots of horrible rejections so far, but at the same time, i've gotten laid from a cold approach, so I take the rough with the smooth! If you don't try and approach, you basically don't have a shot! (unless you're so handsome that they approach you), so I say 'screw it...don't like being approached?? Tough!!'' lol I had an awful night last weekend where I got non-stop rejections, sometimes STRAIGHT away. The girls just didn't want me t…
/r/seduction20/05/16 11:18 AM
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Also, just saying 'hi'. When I was in the US a while ago, I wasn't trying to 'game' anyon,e, but I was bored so I was talking to strangers in bars and stuff. Just saying ''Hi'' would nearly always lead to some type on positive conversation. It was weird. They'd reply and say ''hello'' and smile, and straight away THEY'D ask ME questions! It seemed easy. In the UK, even in bars, sometimes, If I simply smile and say ''hi'' to a girl (as is often reccomended around these parts) they look at you as …
/r/seduction19/05/16 01:12 PM
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Exactly. Some of the day game stuff would leave girl in a state of shock. Saying 'hi' to a stranger in lots of UK places will raise an eye brow, so when you start trying to run game on some girl who's shopping, you're breaking a big cultural barrier. Brits aren't unfriendly, but we tend to be suspicious of new people who are being friendly and forward. We find it 'over familiar'. (Funnily enough though, I was talking to an American girl who found it odd how Brits often hug and kiss people goodby…
/r/seduction19/05/16 12:53 PM
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lol, I know. I think the cultural differences effect so much of 'pickup' but we never really acknowledge it here enough. Even some of the advice about how to approach girls in bars and stuff that some of the US guys suggest would completely creep out lots of UK girls, or just make them think ''why the hell is this stranger telling me this stuff!!?'' lol Maybe Seddit should be divided into countries
/r/seduction19/05/16 08:23 AM
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at least you're getting them into bed! Feel free to give me your tips! Personally, i'm kind of the opposite in that I like my own company and I like being single. I've always been this way. I probably always will. I just wish getting sex was easier!
/r/seduction18/05/16 04:58 PM
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Same problem here, OP. A few of my friends are legit male model standards and have girls throwing themselves at them and they pull the hottest girls whenever they go out. They don't even have to say or do anything. Annoying. However, I must confess that there was a time when it helped me as me and one of my male model type friends used to take girls home together. He'd approach the girls and aske them back to my houose. They both obviously wanted him, but the 4 of us (me, my friend, and 2 girls)…
/r/seduction18/05/16 07:28 AM
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You can't learn how to be very good looking! :) I have the same issue as the OP. A number of my friends are VERY good looking and as a result, can take home whoever they like on a night out. There's no tips they can offer unfortunately as it's down to their looks. They often get approached and will always get a very warm reception if they approach someone. BUt you are right in that there's no point in worrying about it Just do the best you can do with your level of attractiveness etc
/r/seduction18/05/16 07:25 AM
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I wish I had the answers, but i've had some God awful cringe-worthy conversations with girls when it feels like the most boring job interview ever, and some really fun interaction. > I can only assume that unless the girl happens to be fun, then it's gonna be hard work, unfortunately. Having said that, there does seem to be some people who are able to always have really fun interactions with girls, and I assume that it's more related to their opener and their energy. Some of my more fun interact…
/r/seduction17/05/16 05:27 PM
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''She did say randomly some time ago that size doesn't matter, but how the guy moves'' ask her to expand on that?
/r/seduction17/05/16 05:22 PM
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how are your friends doing it? Can you learn anything from them? I kind of wish I had friends who were getting loads of sex so i could learn from them and what they say etc, but they're either in relationships, or they're single and never pull as girls just don't seem interested!
/r/seduction16/05/16 09:22 AM
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yeah, you're probably right in that my expectations are out of whack, and maybe my head in general! I kind of feel i'm in a worse place now than I was before I began reading about pickup/game!. I've read so much, but I almost feel as though I'm unable to implement any of it, and I forget it in the moment and i'm over-thinking everything....not to mention that a lot of the time, I don't get past 'hi', so I don't get a chance to try anyway! :) Other than the F close and maybe 2 'good interactions'…
/r/seduction16/05/16 09:01 AM
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cheers. I do lift, though. And are you saying that it's all about looks as opposed to 'game'? If so, I definitely think that plastic surgery would do a lot more than lifting werights
/r/seduction15/05/16 04:54 PM
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You may feel bad today but your still better positioned than before you went out because of all that in-field experience that you can now try and breakdown and reflect on. Will help immensely the next time you go out.< I wish this was the case, but i'm struggling of what I can actually take from it! So many times I didn't get a chance to even talk to the girls. But it's not as if this is ALWAYS the case. It's the inconsistency. How can I be the same guy that managed to F close a girl from a bar …
/r/seduction15/05/16 04:53 PM
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That's something I'm still struggling with at this stage. Sometimes when you read things about 'game' you come away thinking that it's like magic, and you can make any girl want you. And when you get rejected, you feel as though you done something 'wrong'n terms of 'game'. Then you come here for advice and people tell you what you done wrong. But the fact is, sometimes, if just doesn't matter. She's just not into you!! I think a lot of the time it's about your looks, or maybe she has a particula…
/r/seduction12/05/16 01:08 PM
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so would you say most 'escalating'/ building sexual buildup should be done in a very subtle way such as kino, eye contact. The last time I pulled a girl, I definitely remember telling her I thought she was hot a few times, but maybe that will get me into bad habits since it worked that time but is the 'wrong' thing to do! ?
/r/seduction11/05/16 07:53 PM
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that's cool. I mean, personally, my way of explaining it is slightly different. When someone talks about how looks matter and a girl needs to find you at least somewhat physically attractive for you to have a shot (my belief at the moment), people automatically think that you need to look like Brad Pitt. That all girls only find people who look like brad pitt handsome, and nobody else. I think that there is a fair amount of variety in what girls find attractive physically, but it is STILL the fa…
/r/seduction09/05/16 10:34 PM
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controversial!My opinion at the moment (through life experience, although i'm willing to be proved wrong. In fact i'd love it, ideally though my own experiences!) is that 'game' can help you 'seal the deal' with girls who think you are good looking, but it can't help you get a girl in bed if she think you're flat out ugly.
/r/seduction09/05/16 09:32 PM
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I actually don't find it htat hard anymore. I'm new to the game, but have made 50+ approaches in the last few weeks and i'm not really that 'nervous' anymore. I feel less nervous when using a canned opener, but that's more because I know from experience that if I just open with 'hi' and start talking, asking questions etc, I know that the interraction always feels weird. I think UK girls find it strange to be approached still, in lots of situations. Even in a bar, if I give a girl a direct opene…
/r/seduction09/05/16 09:10 PM
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unfortunately not! After I had sex for the first time, attracting girls was still as hard as it ever was, and as hard as it still is now!! lol I definitely felt better about myself and felt more 'complete' as a person knowing I wasn't going to die a virgin, but that was it.
/r/seduction09/05/16 09:06 PM
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that's why I get so bored of always seeing hte same stuff here about 'getting your life in order. Get a good job. Get interesting hobbies. blablabla'' If you're just looking to meet girls and hookup and get a date or a 1 night stand, which i'm sure most here are, then none of that stuff matters. There are so many LEGIT losers who get laid lots. Here in the UK, the 'chav' guys who have never held a job and never will, who live on benefits, who don't do anything apart from smoke weed, get lots of …
/r/seduction09/05/16 02:33 PM
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that's true. I mean, i'm definitely a loser, but i'm only interested in one night stands, and so i just lie about my job and stuff (pretend to have a good marketing job instead of loading lorries) and so far, it's worked. But yeah, for a relationship, you can't actually be a loser in general and expect to be able to keep a girl (unless you look like brad pitt)
/r/seduction09/05/16 07:26 AM
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I must admit I can relate to this a bit. I know i'm not the greatest looking guy. Short. Big nose (looking into possible rhinoplasty if i can afford it) I had sex with a fairly hot young girl recently, but i'm starting to think it was because she was a bit drunk and had just broken up with her boyfriend and everything was stacked in my favour. I felt good at first, but now i'm kind of thinking the same tihng as you regarding 'i can only get desperate girls' Having said that, i think we should al…
/r/seduction09/05/16 07:22 AM
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Yeah, I mean, I know why they were being friendly to the staff. Being flirty with the bouncers mean they get to queue jump and stuff for example. I just mentioned it I guess, because I don't think anyone with 'game' alone could have pulled them. They just didn't want to be pulled as I saw endless guys getting blown out. And 'hi' always seems a bit boring to me to, if i'm honest, but on nearly EVERY pickup/game forum, whenever someone asks about openers, nearly everyone in unison says 'JUST SAY H…
/r/seduction07/05/16 09:14 PM
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thanks. I'm kind of 'getting over' that interaction, now. I just think they were very bitchy, stuck up, conceited girls who know that they're hot and can get whoever they want, and so unless you're like an EXTREMELY handsome guy or a celebrity or something, then you're just wasting your time. I'm more kicking myself at my interaction with the girl by the dance floor. I opened her (cna't remember what I said :( ), were were talking, she told me she was single, but I remember kind of running out o…
/r/seduction07/05/16 05:40 PM
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Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed reading it. Any other input? (that goes for everyone else who happens to read this, too!) cheers
/r/seduction07/05/16 03:43 PM
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I think this is the one. Can't be certain, but the OP's name looks familiar. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=153315441
/r/seduction07/05/16 02:56 PM
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nice, but I found the god of tinder on one of the threads on bodybuildling.com. I'll have to try and find the thread. Guy has crazy good text game. I think it's a very different skills from real life, though. I think you can be good at texting and bad in real life game, and visa-versa. The general trick on tinder seems to be to always answer in a way that surprises here, be funny, and turn every remark into a kind of flirt and get the number fairly early on.
/r/seduction07/05/16 10:13 AM
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RSD guys seem to get it in about 6 seconds! :)
/r/seduction04/05/16 06:06 PM
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not sure what that means? But yeah, like I said, if you're on the strip in Magaluf, or at beerfest in Germany, and the girls are in a completely uninhibited, drunk, holiday mode, then doing what julien does (shouting 'you!!' and then grabbing them and making out with them) might work, but not typically, imo. Do that to a girl in a quiet bar on the street to a girl in liverpool, and she'll glass you! haha
/r/seduction04/05/16 01:42 PM
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''The stuff RSD teaches works and I am saying this because I tried it. Try it and see for yourself, see how it turns out for you.'' what stuff in particular? I mean, after chain-watching their vids for a day before going out on friday night, I tried lots of the stuff that julien uses (shouting ''you!'' at a girl and grabbing her etc) but I got mostly negative reactions. I really think part of the trick to game is about adapting your method to the situation. Lots of their vids have such a party v…
/r/seduction03/05/16 09:18 AM
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it was in person. In a bar. I guess i'm just a decent liar or she was gullible? (She was only 19) I mentioned in a previous thread I made in this sub, i think. If I told her that I was old and that I was out of work and other things about myself, I wouldn't have been able to fuck her, so I just lied my ass off when she asked questions about my job etc, but changed the subject fairly quick.
/r/seduction03/05/16 07:14 AM
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what are the important concepts you think they touch upon? And what reading material would you recommend for a newbie out of interest? I still kind of find myself asking myself ''what is game'' which is a bit annoying being that i've read a fair bit now. Maybe it's not sinking in, or maybe i'm confusing myself! Since so many apparently successful people use completely different approaches/styles etc, I have to ask whether 'game' is simply the act of approaching lots of girls. Being brave and not…
/r/seduction02/05/16 08:59 PM
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nah, it's cool. not everyone is nice! It's still the internet, afterall!
/r/seduction02/05/16 06:27 PM
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As far as one-night-stands go, you can just lie your ass off!! I'm a 30 year old loser, and I pulled a fairly hot teenager recently and lied about my age, my job, and every other aspect of my life in order to help seal the deal!
/r/seduction02/05/16 07:38 AM
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yeah, it's not easy for guys! If they speak for too long, the girl eventually starts ignoring him as she has been distracted by one of the other 50+ guys messaging her/fighting for her attention, and if they try to get the number/try to arrange to meet too quick, the girl gets scared away. Grrrrr
/r/seduction27/04/16 02:28 PM
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I must admit i'm having similar problems with tinder. Initially, we'd chat for a long time and i'd make them laugh and they seemed to really like me, but then at some point they'd just stop replying! (I guess they must have about 50 other guys messaging her at the same time and some were better looking) Then I read that you are supposed to arrange the meet/get the number early on in the exchange, but in my experience this really scares the girls off! ''Woah! We barely know each other! I don't ju…
/r/seduction27/04/16 07:59 AM
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how did you grow your cock 2 inches!? I know how you feel. I felt like my virginity had grown back as I'd not been laid in a similar amount of time, but I nailed a hot 19 year old last week ('im pushing 30) and I already feel kind of back in the zone! Just keep approaching and be a bit more forward in your intentions and with a bit of luck, you'll be back on the saddle!
/r/seduction26/04/16 10:05 AM
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'what' was the phenibut? The reason I lasted so long in bed you mean? or something else....
/r/seduction22/04/16 08:21 PM
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I'm not someone who thinks looks are absoultey EVERYTHING, but with social media dating, it kind of is. I've pulled girls who are away out of my looks league in real life, but never on tinder. Also, I think it did used to be a 'hookup' app, but what happens is, something becomes very popular, then too many people use it, and the girls turn it into another 'dating site' where they have all the power and the guys have to jump through hoops to impress them. Best wait for the next 'hookup' (not dati…
/r/seduction22/04/16 08:20 PM
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yeah, I lied loads, lol. If I told her the truth about me, I'd have had zero chance! No point in being honest for me.
/r/seduction19/04/16 01:04 PM
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My memory is slighty hazy, but I don't remember there being a transition as such. We were sitting down in the bar talking for about 20 mins once all of our friends had left. I wanted to get her a bit more drunk so I grabbed her and walked her to the bar and bought a big cocktail for us to share. Then at some point I just started kissing her and then said ''we'll drink these and then we'll go back to mine''. She didn't protest. Then we got a cab. Walked in the house and just lead her upstairs. As…
/r/seduction17/04/16 09:54 PM
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You just have to pass them on, and then you're fine again. It's like the game 'it'....
/r/seduction17/04/16 04:28 PM
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Thanks, bro! I'm still in shock, really. It was like someone took over my body for the night! Approaching girls in clubs and then taking them home to smash just isn't something that happens to me! Only downside is that I doubt I impresser her in bed much! Only had limited amount of sex, and i'm pretty sure she's played the field a bit even with her young age. Might buy a sex doll to practice my technique!! haha. I WAS able to last AGES though going at a relentless pace which I guess might have b…
/r/seduction17/04/16 04:27 PM
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thanks. Was definitely some luck. We just kind of clicked. I forgot to mention I'd made one approach 20 mins or so prior to that one on a different girl who was sitting down using her phone, but done it on my own without my friends seeing or knowing about it. But her boyfriend arrived out of nowhere and sat down so it was a bit awkward, lol. I wish I remembered what I said on my approach. I'm pretty sure I was trying to be kind of 'funny' rather than 'badboy' though if my memory serves me correc…
/r/seduction17/04/16 04:25 PM
1

Guys! Maybe I should start a new thread, but last night I smahsed a hot 19 year old! (I'm 30)First lay in YEARS!!!! Maybe it's down to this sub reddit! Only downside is I have no idea what I said! I was a bit drunk and i'd taken so phenibut (don't know if the phenibut had any effect, though). I approached a girl for the first time in year and made her laugh, but then her boyfriend came over. Then I spotted a really pretty gilr sitting down with her friend. I approached them and it went as smooth…
/r/seduction17/04/16 08:34 AM
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to be honest, the bit about 'not needing to find yourself handsome, chicks do' is one of the best things i've read in terms of not letting my looks knock my confidence too much, so thanks for that. Just because I don't think i'm good looking, it doesn't mean some girls won't! I mean, I have pulled girls before, one was even a model and an easy 7. I'm sure some guys would rate her a 9, but she wasn't my 'perfect type', so I guess not all girls see me the way I see myself.
/r/seduction16/04/16 05:04 PM
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most people said otherwise, so i'll take their answer :)
/r/seduction16/04/16 08:12 AM
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I'm not an overweight hunchback (i'm slim and work out) and I always smell delightful, however, I don't think that my face is very good looking, and i've always believed that face = everything! However, since reading this sub and about 'game' in general i've been hopeful that looks don't matter and it's about game. That's why your post about one-night-stands being about looks hurt :) Also, i'm not surprised that your female friends pull hot guys. It's obviously a very different game for girls! I…
/r/seduction15/04/16 09:59 PM
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Cheers. Yes, I don't really want a relationship anyway. Certainly not with someone who only wants to go out with a successful guy. So i'm talking about just one-night-stands.
/r/seduction15/04/16 09:32 PM
1

''Brutally, the one night stand game is about looks'' I thought the point of this sub was that it's about 'game'?! this is depressing to read, lol
/r/seduction15/04/16 09:30 PM
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I thought the point of this sub was that it's about 'game'?! this is depressing to read, lol
/r/seduction15/04/16 09:30 PM
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I thought the point of this sub was that it's about 'game'?! this is depressing to read, lol
/r/seduction15/04/16 09:29 PM
1

Is that just for 'relationships'? I mean, I used to have a friend who would always lie to girls in clubs, and i'm guessing these lies helped him get laid (lies about his job, his background...everything), although he was also fairly good looking. Is lying a viable tactic if i'm just looking for one-night stands as opposed to a relationship? I don't mean huge lies about being a millionnaire, but instead of saying that I load lorries, I could say that i'm in marketing or something
/r/seduction15/04/16 08:51 PM
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Damn it!!
/r/seduction15/04/16 08:39 PM
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will do!
/r/seduction15/04/16 07:22 PM
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Hey. Thanks for you reply. I actually know people in a similar situation to your story about the deadbeat so in a way I guess I already knew that the answer was ''yes, possibly'', but I was kind of asking the question in respect of 'game'. I used to live in a bad area in the UK, and so I know a lot of 'chavs'. These guys have never had a job in their life and are just in and out of prison nonstop etc and live off of state benefits, but for some reason they have extreme confidence and they give o…
/r/seduction15/04/16 06:04 PM
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I already do those things, but always good to be reminded. thx
/r/seduction15/04/16 04:31 PM
0

Yeah I know what you mean. But even though I want to get a nose job and maybe even full-on orthagnathic surgery, I still try my luck anyway, so that's not the case for me! I haven't put it off
/r/seduction15/04/16 04:07 PM
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Well a few of them hinted STRONGLY that they mean making bank, so I don't think i'm missing anything, lol. Having a solid social circle - well I have a fair few friends, although admittedly they've mostly all settled down with girlfriends/wives etc now so I see most of them less. Living a healthy life - I work out 4 times a week and eat a very healthy diet. Passionate hobbies - I play football twice a week. That's my 'hobby' I guess. Having goals and motivation - Not sure about that one if i'm h…
/r/seduction15/04/16 03:26 PM
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Yeah, i'm getting towards 30 now and even though I used to have loads of friends (and theoretically I still do) they are all settled down with wives and girlfriends. Girls have never really liked me, so i've never come close to 'settling down' and now I kind of don't have anyone to go drinking with and stuff. I'm also a bit of an introvert. Suffered a bit of social anxiety my whole life. Sucks
/r/seduction15/04/16 02:13 PM
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I'm kind of the opposite. When I see a pretty girl, I walk over and say 'hi', and after that my instinct is to tell them that I think they're attractive. And this is what I tend to do. However most (but not all) of what i've read on various 'pickup' sites says not to tell them that you think they're attractive as that's 'giving away power' etc etc. But that you should say something cocky or funny or 'neg' them. But then someone here did tell me the other day that it's ok to compliment them if yo…
/r/seduction14/04/16 07:31 PM
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Yeah it sucks! I actually have loads of friends but they've basically all settled down with girlfriends and wives, and i'm the only one who's never got close to getting a girlfriend lol. So I still want to go out and try to approach a girl or two to see if I can pull someone in a bar before I die, but I don't really have people to go out with now. Like you, i'm thinking 'new friends' is the best bet, but it's kind of easier said than done.
/r/seduction14/04/16 06:23 PM
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yeah, i've read a few 'game' books now, so i'm acting different when i talk to girls, but no joy as yet. Is it working for you?
/r/seduction14/04/16 06:06 PM
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very similar here. When I get lucky with girls, it's all down to them pulling me (on the rare occasion that someone thought I was good looking). Never the other way around, though. I'm not even sure it's possible the other way around.
/r/seduction14/04/16 04:52 PM
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I think for starters, no 'game' in the world is gonna make ugly guys score with gorgeous young girls! That's just madness. I'm pretty ugly too, so I know your struggle. You could always fuck prostitutes when you want to best of the best, and lower your standards for when you're out in bars and stuff? I imagine game can be useful, but I think people have completely unrealistic expectations of what it can achieve.
/r/seduction14/04/16 07:59 AM
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I was kind of thinking that. I immediately thought about a friend of mine who seemed basically legit depressed all of the time, yet he still got so many girls because he is a 6ft 4, athletic guy with piercing blue eyes and a very good looking face. He's actually a professional goalkeeper, but he's not at all 'famous' and he became depressed about rarely playing (usually a substitute). Get paid lots of money, but was depressed. But on nights out, no matter how shy or quiet he was, girls approach …
/r/seduction14/04/16 07:42 AM
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thanks for the reply. Why do you say I have low self esteem? I assumed it's because I mentioned that i'm not very good looking? I don't think that's low self esteem though. That's just being honest with yourself! I still talk to girls and act confident so I don't let it effect me. But I can't lie to myself. Like running a marathon or even therapy won't make me think i'm handsome :) I'm already the best version of me in other aspects of life, so I don't know about 'improving myself'. I mean, that…
/r/seduction14/04/16 07:08 AM
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I didn't mind! She was actually very attractive. Slim, long dark hair, nice eyes. I don't find it creepy either way (older guys with young girls or older girls with younger guys) but maybe that just a personal thing, or even a UK thing where it happens lots
/r/seduction14/04/16 06:51 AM
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yeah, i'm not offended at all! Don't worry. I even said in my OP that I assume this is a bit of a one-off based on how young/innocent she is. Or maybe this is how you are supposed to GAME very young girls??? I don't konw... Girls don't tend to go for me usually. I think it's because i'm not particularly good looking, but I guess I can't do much worse if I start using 'game'/seduction (which I gather is basically acting very confident and cocky and gently insult girls etc, although i'm new too it…
/r/seduction13/04/16 11:10 PM
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I'm not 'worried' about being a nice guy as such. It's just the way I am. Like I don't use 'negs' or try to act cocky and that sort of stuff which I think 'game' is apparently about? But she was like ''I feel like you're gonna stop talking to me soon. I really like talking to you. You're so nice compared to most of the guys on here'' and I was like ''No. I like talking to you'' and after a while the gaps between my replies were getting bigger as I had stuff to do and she sent me a few more 'need…
/r/seduction13/04/16 10:26 PM
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yeah. In my limited experience you can kind of put a girl into a certain category and act accordingly. Like, a very 'nice guy' I know has pulled lots of girls, but the girls are always 'nice girls'! (some of them suffered with social anxiety too). So if you want to score with a 'nice girl', be nice! Then I know some 'chavs' who get loads of girls, but they only get chav girls who come from broken dysfunctional homes and will sleep with anyone (assuming he's a chav) who comes on to her! (big time…
/r/seduction13/04/16 10:14 PM
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well before you pat me on the back, i've had VERY little sex since! I'm useless with girls, lol. They don't tend to like me. She was a one-off!
/r/seduction13/04/16 09:50 PM
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that would've been my reply too, although I no nothing about 'game' so maybe that's not a good reply!
/r/seduction13/04/16 08:59 PM
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Quite funny, but this actually worked for me once. Not because I was using 'game' or anything, but because I was a virgin and very scared/nervous. I was about 17 and the girl was about 33. But after I told her something like ''We can definitely have a kiss but i think that'll be it'' she was ALL OVER ME!
/r/seduction13/04/16 08:53 PM
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Well personally i'd only say it because I meant it, but then, how would they even actually know anyway? You're saying that if you give her a compliment to get her to like you then it's bad, but if you're saying it 'honestly' then it's good? I'd like to actually know some people in real life who are 'good at seduction' so i could learn and see if it 'works' but all of my friends who were into it for a while a good few years back (always preaching about 'negs' and shit-tests and how to act cocky e…
/r/seduction13/04/16 07:36 PM
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creeped out? that's every guys dream!!
/r/seduction13/04/16 07:27 PM
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I thought you were never supposed to give compliments/tell them they're attractive?. Especially so early on. I hear so much conflicting advice that my head hurts!
/r/seduction13/04/16 11:07 AM
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Is it more the inability to stay hard as opposed to the actual act of the sex itself? I mean, is there really much too it? Why do you have trouble keeping rhythm? Sex is funny, because most guys think they're amazing in bed, but I kind of think that everyone is more or less the same. Your cock can only go 'in and out'. And once you know the basic positions, know the basics of her anatomy and are able to last more than a few seconds before shooing your bolt, is there really much more too it? When…
/r/seduction11/04/16 04:32 PM
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Why didn't she say 'yes'? Did you do something wrong? I'm new too all of this and trying to learn. Is 'game' basically just the act of being brave and approaching as many girls as you can? Obviously improves your chances of getting lucky and also makes rejection 'hurt' less due to it happening a lot? Is there actually any 'skill'? Or does the success factor more or less rely on how good looking you are?
/r/seduction11/04/16 04:22 PM
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What i've learnt is, nice guys certainly do get laid, but usually only with 'nice girls'. But lots of girls in the world today aren't 'nice'. It's impossbile for a 'nice guy' to pick up some hot girl from a bad area, but it's more possible for a 'bad boy' to pick up a hot girl from a good area. Like, In the UK for example, lots of girls are common, chavvy, girls from broken homes and dysfunctional families, and these girls will NEVER give a 'nice guy' a chance. All they've ever known is aggressi…
/r/seduction09/04/16 08:06 PM
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she's hot as fuck, but he's got no chance with her! She's out of his league looks-wise
/r/seduction09/04/16 07:48 PM
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