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romulusnr/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/20 07:33 PM
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romulusnr/r/MensRights11/10/12 08:31 PM
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Social Issuesromulusnr/r/MensRights26/02/19 01:25 AM
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romulusnr/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/19 09:37 PM
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Social Issuesromulusnr/r/MensRights06/06/17 04:23 PM
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romulusnr/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/20 09:06 PM
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romulusnr/r/MensRights06/12/14 02:50 AM
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romulusnr/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/19 07:46 AM
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romulusnr/r/MensRights27/01/18 08:19 PM
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I mean, it kinda seems legit. https://www.google.com/search?q=patriarchy+definition a system of society or government in which the father or eldest male is head of the family and descent is traced through the male line. * "the thematic relationships of the ballad are worked out according to the conventional archetypes of the patriarchy" a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it. * "the dominant ideology of patriarchy" a society or commun…
/r/MensRights09/04/21 07:19 PM
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Well not really. Matriarchy would be a system where all you ever had was queens and no kings, and princesses would be heirs to the throne and run duchies and such. Until very very recently, the system in the UK for example only had ruling queens when there was no other option. Of course, the power of the monarch has been chipped away at for at least two centuries, to the point where today the monarch's power is barely hypothetical and effectively nonexistent, so it's a lot less meaningful than i…
/r/MensRights09/04/21 11:00 AM
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Not sure what I'm missing that made this get downvoted so much.
/r/MensRights09/04/21 10:55 AM
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Derailment!
/r/MensRights09/04/21 10:53 AM
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R-menslib is 🗑️, don't waste your time. Imagine if women decided they knew the best way to deal with men's problems... that's r-menslib in a nutshell. (using dashes bc i don't want to link)
/r/MensRights09/04/21 10:52 AM
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It's not just twitter. It happens all the time on FB too. And even Reddit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/21 07:13 PM
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I'm sorry, but I really don't think uncomfortable airline seats are discrimination against men. Unless there's some evidence that men are physiologically harmed from coach seats, there isn't an equality argument here. I don't know how it could be an equality argument when we're literally talking about everyone having the same seats. Men don't have a medical or health reason to get larger seats, they do it because they can afford to and it's more important to them to be comfortable flying. Sugges…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/20 06:07 PM
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I mean, couldn't women pay more and have less shitty lives too? Not sure why using normal seats like everyone else is "shittier life than women." We're talking roughly half the population here -- so airlines decided to make seats that are shitty for half the population? I can't say as I've heard of women talking about how great and comfy airline seats are. According to some studies, they don't care about airline seat comfort as much as men do. What's the historic demographics of air travelers? I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/20 07:45 AM
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The title of the post is "Men NEED to earn more money because..." and it simply isn't supported by the given arguments. I didn't come out with the "need" angle, OP did, and it fails. But even from a "necessary for being alive/healthy/secure" definition, it fails. Ultimately the definition of "need" here is "need to be comfortable" and that's a pretty poor basis for "need" IMO.... I dare say it's a pretty poor basis for "need" to most people generically talking about needs. "It's my industrial st…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/20 06:58 PM
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Again, this contradicts your primary assertion of "men NEED to earn more money" on the basis of this reason. At the risk of sounding tankie, or austeritist(?), nobody needs comfortableness. Yes, we "NEED" food, but that doesn't mean we "NEED" good or expensive food. Basically you can have more food without paying more than other food, it all depends on what food you buy. There's no established correlation between nutritional content and cost. Far from it, in fact.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/20 06:28 PM
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Well, then, they don't, in fact, "NEED to earn more money" because of that, which is the top assertion in your post, because they can opt to be frugal and sacrifice comfort (which are pretty much synonyms).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/20 06:27 PM
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No misrepresentation of fact. I asked you to post the original edit that spurred the argument, and instead of doing that simple thing, you doubled down on the outrage machine. Extremely typical of alarmism tactics. You haven't established that you followed the DR process, you've simply tried to distract from that allegation by saying "you don't know that I didn't." The easy response to "you didn't do it" is to show that you did. Instead you played misdirectional logic games and neither-confirm-n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/20 05:55 PM
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Previously you said If you eat 33% more food and are buying the same food Larger people don't eat the same types of food as thinner people. I don't think that follows at all. That's an extremely weak assumption. Larger people tend to eat higher energy food (carbs, sugars, fats, proteins, etc.) That doesn't at all necessarily lead to higher food costs. Hi carb food and hi fat food are by and large anything but expensive. Viz: the developed world's lower class obesity situation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/20 05:48 PM
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I'm kind of dubious that, assuming that men are more likely to get higher-classed airline seats, that it's because they're larger people, but rather, because either they can better afford to, or because they are more likely to be business travelers, or because they don't choose to be frugal. I think that's a correlation that is not a causation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/20 05:43 PM
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I won’t hold open a door or pull something heave off a shelf for a strange woman. Nobody says it has to be all or nothing, it just has to be equal. I might do that, and I'm just as likely to do it for a man as for a woman. If she is crying, I’m thinking what is she trying to manipulate me into. Holy fuck, how does this have upvotes?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/20 07:19 AM
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I like how the real answers are in the comments. Everyone has come up with much better examples than "men have to eat more and have to buy bigger airplane seats" like what?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/20 07:17 AM
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Yeah, kinda typical masculinity stereotype.... no thanks
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/20 07:17 AM
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Why would you be eating the same food? Why is it even remotely believable that you would be?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/20 07:16 AM
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Is there really a notion of men needing more expensive airline seats? That sounds kinda bullshit to me. But ultimately, this characterization is a blanket definition of men that persists a notion of men as having to fit certain physical characteristics. There's plenty of men that are not large, not tall, not heavy, not strong, not whatever else your preconceptions are. This doesn't even get into the question of transmen. I say, stop pushing your definition of "a man" on me, tyvm.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/20 07:15 AM
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Okay. So let's summarize here. You've decided that based on one person, the entire administrative team of Wikipedia is against you and must be destroyed. This, mind you, after you tried to update Wikipedia -- by your own assessment, that's like trying to get NOW to support opt-in fatherhood. And, despite admitting not really knowing at all how Wikipedia works, you've insisted that you absolutely know everything about how it is being run. You even doubled down on the notion of "reporting" someone…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/20 07:11 AM
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I'm someone who is far more familiar with how WP is supposed to work than you apparently are, if you think making lame Karen-like threats against another WP editor (admin or not) is going to get you anywhere, and you're waving it around in this subreddit like 57 names on a list, trying to get sympathy for how tough you were with your "i've reported you" threat. Go ahead, show me the article talk page and/or DR thread then. It ought to be plenty meaty. Hell, you didn't even link to the actual edi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/20 04:50 AM
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If this hadn't been two months ago, it would be something that could actually be addressed in context. But, you're posting this over two months after the fact, even after the discussion you're linking. Entering the discussion now would just be obvious brigading. You should have brought the issue through the dispute resolution process, or brought it up on the article talk page (typically the first step of dispute resolution anyway)... not made a personal talk page flamefest, stewed on for two mon…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/20 02:49 PM
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Yeah, and Mimi Rocah said Bernie Sanders makes her skin crawl, what's your point? Janice Fiamengo might think differently if Joe had sniffed her own daughter's hair and constantly pawed her and tried to kiss her head while she was visibly uncomfortable. Yeah, I think it's pretty ironic for Joe Biden to talk about predatory men. About as ironic for Joe Biden to talk about over-incarceration of black people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/20 01:05 AM
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VAWA employs feminists as trainers Men not even considered Is that specified in the law, or is that how the law is applied? Because it sounds like the problems there aren't the law itself, but it's execution.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/20 12:58 AM
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Are they really though? Because in my experience they tend much more to be, at best, Third Way / neoliberal materialists, fawning over corporate brands and cheering empty centrist platitudes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/20 08:42 AM
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See I thought that "intersectionality" was that you can be affected by multiple discriminatory factors based on being a member of multiple affected groups, such as gay black people, black-asian people, trans latinos, gay muslims, and so on. But if intersectionality means "every possibly negatively affected group," wouldn't that potentially involve groups not recognized as such by the dominant narrative? Who is the arbiter of the list of dimensions within intersectionality? How does a theory esta…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/20 08:40 AM
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Hey, bro, there's always Parler. Irony: "i wIlL nOt sElF cEnSoR" after throwing a Karenesque tizzy about someone else saying something you don't like
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/20 06:37 PM
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Oh please, that's a bit much. I'm pretty damn left even for this sub, and I'd certainly not cry in my almond latte about being called a conservative. I'd just counter it. No need to run to mommy. He wasn't using moderator powers, he was contributing as a member of this sub, and I'm certainly not one to argue that mods should not be able to participate like any other member of the sub. (I have to admit, I run in some fairly red [not that red, the original red] circles, and I've yet to see any of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/20 11:51 PM
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Also, what are the conservative propaganda outlets that are opposed to mass incarceration? Reason And probably dozens of fundy outlets... Catholics etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/20 11:46 PM
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every American politician in the 80s and 90s was "getting tough on crime Maybe 80s and 90s politicians aren't the best choice for government in the 2020s though. This has not stopped conservatives from trying to use that voting history as a political weapon though Or progressives, who at least actually oppose it on principle rather than use it opportunistically Only in the US is it normalized to vote for someone who doesn't support what you believe in
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/20 11:43 PM
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for every relationship-less man, there must be a relationship-less woman out there. First of all... no. Second of all... those relationship-less women aren't interested in those relationship-less men. Third of all... Even if it were true, then, the fault would be on both the relationship-less men and the relationship-less women, for not being interested in each other. But you only want to ascribe fault to one of those groups. Strawman is strawman
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/20 11:34 PM
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It is my personal belief that he discovered the truth, after he had vociferously defended her, and that weighed heavily on him. But who knows.
/r/MensRights12/11/20 09:17 AM
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Asia Argento headlined the Paris Fashion Show last year... when girls commit "male crimes" no one cares.
/r/MensRights11/11/20 08:16 PM
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i think that post is satire
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/20 03:00 AM
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It's incendiary garbage. "Militate and snuff out?" Big yikes. Someone could post this discussion topic without two-line hyperbole. Maybe some actual sources backing the argument rather than obtuse justifications of the alarmist terms used.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/20 11:52 PM
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I'm not really limiting the term to what's discussed in the article as it's not really relevant to the immediate point of what the term TM means (or, moreover, what it should mean or was supposed to mean) There is masculinity that is not toxic, and there is masculinity that is toxic; the latter is TM, the former is just ... M. Maybe PM? That's my point. In my experience, even male advocates would acknowledge that there are masculine traits that ain't great. Literal self-sacrifice being one of th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/20 11:57 PM
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So, a trait is positive as long as it benefits the holder of the trait, regardless of the impact of that trait on others? Kind of like how a strong and powerful military and hegemony of the planet are protective against invasion and internal strife. Solipsism isn't a left wing virtue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/20 05:51 PM
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In spite of what it technically means, it effectively demonises masculinity in popular discourse. That's because the word is being misused. If you made a different word, they would just start using the new word the same way. The only alternative is to reclaim the word.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/20 05:18 AM
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What it says is that those traits are good but they are powers that can also be used for evil. However, it also does not serve as a comprehensive list of traits that are considered masculine; it selectively picks the better ones of the lot in order to defend the whole as not necessarily bad. Which is valid and important, but also not the full picture. The article paints a really rosy picture of men that harkens back to traditionalist imagery and it's awfully Promise Keepery to a leftist palate. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/20 07:17 PM
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I hear a lot of sentiment that "toxic masculinity" is interpreted as "masculinity is toxic" when the term was defined to mean specific aspects of masculinity that are or can be toxic, thus the "toxic waste" analogy... though maybe not an apt one
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/20 07:06 PM
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The men who cause damage
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/20 12:15 AM
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Some would say that the first ones are the positive masculinity, and the latter ones are the toxic ones. But everytime I talk about the qualifying aspect of adjectives like "toxic" (a la "toxic waste" versus, say, waste that is not toxic) I get brigaded to hell.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/20 12:02 AM
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Nah. I don't think there needs to be a cis male flag. cis men aren't looking for the same kinda acceptance that trans people need? It's a different acceptance. It's about remembering that we're still people too. people (don't normally at least) fight against the idea that cis men exist. I mean, I think there there are definitely anti-men people out there, and we want to fend off that becoming predominant. "Kill all men," "imagine if there were no men," "imagine if men were locked in cages/ put o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/20 04:53 AM
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he was a registered Democrat 20 years ago Relevance? Lincoln Chafee was a registered (and elected) Republican 13 years ago, did that make him a conservative Democrat in 2019 or even a conservative Libertarian now? Hardly. This is all assuming you think that Donald Trump ever chose his political allegiances based on belief. He was trying to build buildings in New York and New Jersey, FFS. If he'd been trying to build buildings in Texas, or Georgia, you think he would have registered as a Democrat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/20 04:45 AM
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The definition sufficient for this sub is in the sidebar.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/20 04:36 AM
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean you specifically. I think what I'm saying is that I don't think someone needs to join Cis Men of America or PFBAM or wave a cis male flag at a parade. But to look at the realities with an unpresumptive lens, and identify those realities outside the narratives that try to taint them with context. Men dying in the workplace. Men dying at a younger age. Men in prison. Men's sentences. Laws that only affect men. Rules that are stricter for men. Men dying in war. Men committi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/20 10:24 PM
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Women's health and bodily autonomy is entirely a left wing value. If it isn't, you're suggesting women are forced to carry a pregnancy to term. Nothing about that is left wing. Do you think Gilead is left-wing because it has green energy? Hint: No. There aren't simply two options of patriarchy or matriarchy, it's called egalitarianism. and patriarchy (whether or not it exists in this place or that place at this or that time) isn't a left wing value (and neither is matriarchy). I think that's wid…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/20 09:52 PM
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No, but you're here supporting the ultra-right-wing in the US, so that's pretty ironic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/20 09:42 PM
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You've gone from "he never said that" to "he did say that, but, you know, it didn't mean he isn't going to" and I'd say you should quit while you're behind.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/20 09:41 PM
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he didn't lose any election looks at election results I mean, he lost that one, it's just that the vote of the people isn't what actually matters in this country
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/20 09:40 PM
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You mean like if the Democrats were to set up fake ballot boxes (with "OFFICIAL" written on them) in Republican neighborhoods? Oh wait, that was Republicans in California
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/20 09:38 PM
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Treat cis (or non-cis) men the same you would treat anyone else, by the same measures, with the same respect and the same compassion. I don't know why this is so difficult. I don't think it's difficult. I don't think it needs to be an explicit thing. Just look at the realities and where they don't match up. It doesn't mean ignoring the issues others face, either; but simply acknowledging that it isn't black and white, and it isn't all rape and roses being male.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/20 09:36 PM
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There seems to be a reflexive effect of a general hatred of women, especially non-traditionalist women, carrying over from the right onto a support of men who are having trouble with women, which is generally seen as a result of women being de-traditionalized. So there's a sort of sympathetic connection over the perceived root cause while not the result. If only those men dealing with those de-traditionalized "crazy" women were dealing with traditional "sensible" women they wouldn't be having so…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/20 06:31 AM
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She never was to me. I'm sure some people think she's a hero. Those people are trash. PS castration involves removal of the testicles, not the penis. Lately people in my circles have been saying that "you're not supposed to kill innocent people , you're also not supposed to kill criminal suspects either." The same goes for mutilating them IMO.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/20 07:05 AM
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See when women do bad things to men, it's because men did something bad to women, and that's enough to justify anything, including mutilation and disfigurement. But for people who hate men, nothing is funnier than damaging a penis. But the fact that I am saying this means I hate women ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/20 07:03 AM
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It also puts single parent households into clusterfuck, because one person now has to do the income job of two in order to stay afloat. Probably what should have happened is that more women became breadwinners and more men became homebodies. The reason for this seems to be twofold and the "real" culprit depends on your gender ideology. Some say it's because men weren't willing to give up careers. Others say it's because men without careers remained undesirable. And in addition, that househusband…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/20 10:45 PM
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I'll have to check that out! I've noted before that in general, people tend to be dictatorial by default, because it's the easy way out. Autocracy is easy; dealing with dissent, working collectively, and finding compromise is hard. That goes for up and down the power scale. You see it in so many groups that are so small and insignificant that people go "why are you so obsessed with this tiny little amount of power you have?" And that's the thing, they don't realize that's what they are doing, th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/20 02:05 AM
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I've never been able to uncover a good reason why other than "because women don't want to cause a mess" which is ... kinda biased isn't it? And really quite unfounded, but just a speculation. (Which is how a lot of social research goes, sadly. "We've come up with something which would explain this, so that must be it, other explanations cannot possibly be correct."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/20 01:47 AM
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The term is misused about 95% of the time. Intersectionality is when a person is affected doubly by being part of more than one affected group. A white straight woman complaining about how intersectionality affects her is on crack. In addition, I seriously doubt all of those intersectable groups have the same effect on men vs women in the group. Edit: And I hadn't even seen the Bill Burr thing yet
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/20 01:44 AM
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Reminds me of people who become atheists and then leave and become Christians again because the atheists were mean or something. Some people are into it not because they believe in it, but because it's the cool thing around them and of the people they like. Also, a lot of people are just naturally kind of socially autocratic. They think the way to promote something is to shut down the opposite -- basically the exact same tactics they decry their opponents using. It's a lack of self-awareness, an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/20 01:31 AM
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When you can do this for "shitlord" get back to me :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/20 01:26 AM
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Because both men and women can be violent asshats.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/20 01:26 AM
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Most definitely. Not all WLW relationships are between two traditionally feminine people. In fact I know of an old HS classmate who ended up in a fairly controlling WLW relationship with a very assertive, tough, almost masculine (and toxically so) woman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/20 01:25 AM
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I'm pretty sure I'm banned from there long time ago.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/20 01:23 AM
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IDK where you're at, but for example, I would put Corbyn squarely left, Lib Dem straddling the middle, Labour somewhere to the left of that but not terribly far, depending on who is leader, certainly not under Blair, and I'm not quite sure about Keir. Green, SDLP, Plaid, even SNP, pretty squarely left. Course, I don't live there and don't follow it constantly, but I do try to keep in touch with it. I wish we had that sort of parliamentary system in the US. A party can get as much as 30% of the v…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/20 01:15 AM
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Promoting internationally proven policies that would improve these numbers (US OECD health rankings) would be a start. Supporting policies to improve this (economic inequality) would be a good one too. A goal of fixing this (rich getting richer while poor and middle class get poorer) can't hurt. This sort of thing (tax the super rich and use it to support the people) seems to be a good one. Basically name an OECD or G7 country that isn't "United States" and start being more like them is a good p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/20 11:03 PM
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inb4 "MIGHT as a term just reinforces the typical male obsession with physical strength and use of brutal power for conquest"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/20 12:51 AM
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In all fairness, you can only work with the data you are able to collect. If they said "here's our data, but we believe it's much different, so we will change it" that would be them doing precisely what the SJ and WS groups do and would be just as invalid. It would be another study I think to examine whether male workplace abuse is underreported, but not this one, which is trying to do something else with the data it has. And honestly even with the data being skewed as you suggest, the results a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/20 12:50 AM
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Some other links if that helps. Also check for any library systems, including schools, that you have access to, they may provide access. https://www.google.com/search?q=doi.org+10.1108+IJM-02-2019-0067
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/20 12:47 AM
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I've said it many times; quite a lot of "misogyny" and "patriarchy" comes directly from other women. And I say clean up your own backyard before you complain about mine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/20 12:43 AM
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Men need to not look down on other men due to outdated notions of how to define a man in order for that to happen, I think. As a guy I think many of us have experienced the sense of shame or rejection when we asked other men for advice on our issues and they laughed as us for being stupid, or weak; when we expressed our emotions and were called belittling names and shamed. It sometimes comes from women too, although, I dare say it comes more from other men. If you were ever the kind of guy who t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/20 12:42 AM
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I try not to. To me that is the point. Everyone deserves to be heard. Men and women. I don't see why it has to be either A or B to the exclusion of the other. Men don't like being yelled at either. Men don't like being the victims of crime either. Men don't like having their SOs throw things at them or hit them either. Men don't like their boss telling them they do a shit job either. Some men don't like being sexually assaulted/harassed either. And so on. Nobody has a monopoly on legitimate issu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/20 12:37 AM
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Yes, center-right-to-center-left people seem to really want to attach themselves to "the left" as well as terms like "progressive" because they are in vogue, but they don't actually intend to embrace hardly any of it. (It doesn't help either that the wacko right labels everyone left of Romney -- and perhaps for some, even him -- as "a communist") If you call a dog's tail a leg that doesn't mean a dog has five legs. The big tent allows practically anyone to show off your mantle without any invest…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/20 12:00 AM
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My apologies, by those I meant Right Wing Troll, Left Wing Troll, Radical Feminist Troll, respectively.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/20 11:51 PM
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Because of the stigma and the reputation, particularly when you look at the majority of people who use the term, especially /r/mensrights. I've actually been using the label LWMA to differentiate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/20 11:51 PM
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People in 2016 who insisted on HRC over other primary candidates because she was a woman, never seemed to have any interest in supporting Carly Fiorina, Sarah Palin, Christine O'Donnell... so it's a BS line in the first place.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/20 07:33 AM
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I don't think it's terribly in dispute that the risk-taking tendencies of traditional masculinity (e.g. machismo) are bad for one's health. I don't see any reason why men should be expected to conform to any male stereotype. It's in our best interests not to, frankly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/20 07:30 AM
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All you have to do to become a politician is to file candidacy paperwork. Sometimes for a few bucks, other times for a hundred or so signatures.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/20 07:25 AM
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I reject the label "MRA" personally.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/20 07:25 AM
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One might say that in order to be in the wing you have to be clearly on a side, not hovering near the middle... that's the torso, not the wing. The left shoulder at best, but probably the left clavicle.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/20 07:22 AM
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CHS is not someone I'd call left wing. AEI? Hard pass.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/20 07:20 AM
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Will it be LW though? I doubt that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/20 07:16 AM
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One of my first posts here, before being modded, was a text image that I thought presented a valid discussion point, but it got deleted for low effort. :) (Edit: It wasn't officially listed in the rules at the time, so I didn't know better then.) So I can see the value of having a place to vent -- especially one that isn't a right wing feeding trough like certain other male venting subs. I'm here and I'm involved here because I want it to succeed. You know... I'm guessing a lot of LWMAs come upo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/20 07:15 AM
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Not if you don't want to be flamed at by trogs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/20 07:11 AM
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'Left-wing and egalitarian' is what men's lib also would call themselves. But I don't think /r/egalitarian would agree either. Is "egalitarian" in ML's community description? As pertains to gender relations, "egalitarian" is increasingly recognized as a not-necessarily-feminist position. The thing is that "egalitarian" is not limited to gender but also to race, ethnicity, identity, and so on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/20 07:09 AM
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"To discuss male issues from a pro-male, left-wing perspective, and not necessarily feminist one." would focus on the what and tone down the what not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/20 07:08 AM
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Trouble is that the more we advertise, the more RWTs we'll get. And that only ends up riling LW folks and then both get sent to detention for a week. It's not a new tactic by the right, either. When you have a "don't give a fuck" (i.e. RW) position, and you're facing someone who gives a fuck (i.e. LW position), you only have to poke and prod at what they give a fuck about until they are set off. Hell, that tactic is older than Reagan. And on the other hand if we advertise in LW groups, there's g…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/20 07:06 AM
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Is it not conceivable that there are people who kill women simply for being women? I'm not sure what the argument is here. I think it's another case of affirming the consequent and treating qualifiers as general descriptors. Now maybe people are using the word indiscriminately, which is the actual problem, but to say the word itself is an insult doesn't make any sense. Words aren't problematic, their usage is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/20 06:41 PM
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Make up your mind. Don't be obtuse. The fact that anarchist principles can also exist with leftist principles does not mean that anarchism is left. Affirming the consequent. your idea that anarchy means absolute lack of regulation They don't think that there shouldn't be thinks like interdictions to murder, etc, and punishment That's not regulation, that's vengeance (or charitably, justice). (Of course, how do you ensure that system of interdiction and punishment will actually be carried out if …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/20 10:04 PM
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None of that whataboutism makes the source a left wing source. What's left wing about unregulated capitalism? I can't think of a single left wing ideology that doesn't at very least advocate for regulations (part and parcel with effective enforcement thereof by an adequately funded and empowered compliance organization -- i.e. not simply a toothless laissez-faire observer). Incidentally, the use of money is not the definition of capitalism, not even remotely. Money was around long before capital…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/20 04:33 AM
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"Free-market economics" literally means no regulation. I don't know many liberals who think we shouldn't have clean air laws, minimum wages, worker protections, safety regulations, pollution controls. It also refers to privatization of public services, and I don't know many liberals who think we shouldn't have public schools, fire departments, the Post Office... or are fans of the private prison industry. And when coupled with "limited government", that means no social programs, and I don't know…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/20 11:14 AM
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Yeah, but why do they print it? Because equality for all, or because lulz pwning the libz? It's not like the only choices for media outlets are tankies and ancaps.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/20 11:00 AM
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Yeah that totally explains why it's so often 5-4 and so often predictable who 4 of each side are. Sureyaright
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/20 10:55 AM
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See, I must have misread the headline, I only saw the names "Ginsburg" and "Barrett" and must have missed the part of the headline where it says "Biden" If you think Title IX application is the sole or even prominent determining factor why the left doesn't support Barrett, that's a big bruh
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/20 10:54 AM
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I think motivation behind each conclusion is what matters. What it is that led them to that standard. Was it equal application of law, or was it because old book say bad?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/20 10:51 AM
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I really don't know why there's so many right wing sourced posts in this sub. FEE's mission is to inspire, educate, and connect future leaders with the economic, ethical, and legal principles of a free society. These principles include: individual liberty, free-market economics, entrepreneurship, private property, high moral character, and limited government.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/20 08:35 PM
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This says more about Ginsburg than it does about Barett.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/20 08:34 PM
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Generously speaking, it seems like recruitment is not the issue, but promotion. Last year, the Australia Bureau of Statistics doubled its proportion of female bosses by using blind recruitment. Men continue to outnumber women at senior ranks of the public service, despite vastly outnumbering men at the rank-and-file level. Most places hiring bosses off the shelf don't hire people that weren't previously bosses. Thus the only way to become a boss is to be promoted. If men are being overpromoted d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/20 07:31 AM
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The two tinyurl links in the linked content are: https://www.gov.uk/parental-rights-responsibilities/who-has-parental-responsibility https://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/leader-column/one-million-children-hit-fatherlessness-csj-report-warns I don't see which one of those provides a source for the statement that there are no father's rights in the UK. Can OP provide a source for the actual statement? And discussion that isn't simply a reposting of the link title?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/20 01:41 AM
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I'll admit, that's better than most arguments.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/20 12:35 AM
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Biden is not by any stretch of the imagination going to lose my state, so if I "throw away" my vote, it doesn't make a difference to Biden's chances.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/20 12:31 AM
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"the left wing is bad because it is not right wing"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 12:35 AM
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prefacing that with the fact that it's what you are doing I mean, that's what they're supposed to be doing anyway, so prefacing is redundant. I don't think the guardian and the person who made this interview would have simply written a neutral piece But they should be. Your argument seems to be "they don't do it to us, so they shouldn't do it to others either" but I would say they should do it to both, so shooting them down for doing it here is counterproductive and simply partisan.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/20 11:59 PM
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It's factual to report on what she says. In fact, it's a good thing that they do. As others have pointed out, this will potentially unendear her to people. If they hadn't interviewed her, they wouldn't have that input.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/20 11:57 PM
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Would you want them to interview a male advocate critically? Good for the goose, etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/20 07:10 AM
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I don't think a newspaper is what you're looking for here. Edit: Newspapers aren't for kissing your ass. Sorry people, that's just a simple fact. Just because some news outlets do doesn't mean they're supposed to. Go back to your echo chambers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/20 12:42 AM
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Mmm, it's not really the job of an interviewer to bash the interviewee. It also tends to make interviews not happen. An accurate illustration of the interviewee's beliefs is the best you should hope for. Edit: Good luck if you ever try to run a newspaper, downvoters. I'm sure you'll be a great success and everyone will want to be interviewed by you. Facepalm.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/20 11:11 PM
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Surely op will delivar...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/20 08:48 PM
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I'm not entirely sure that's really analogous. There's pretty well established negative impacts of too much testosterone and not terribly many negative impacts of too much progesterone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/20 12:09 AM
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How does birth control increase single motherhood rate?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/20 12:02 AM
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"If you ask for half a loaf, you get crumbs. We need the whole loaf."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/20 12:01 AM
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OK, but that's a specific form of birth control, which doesn't necessarily portray the potential options of any subsidized birth control.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/20 12:00 AM
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OK, but planned parenthood is privately run, not (primarily and decreasingly so at that) government subsidized, and not to mention increasingly under attack by conservatives and reactionary governments, from the fed down to states and even municipalities. So that's kind of the privatization version.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 11:59 PM
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Agreed, but I wouldn't let it stand in the way either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 11:58 PM
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Sounds good. Not just from an MA standpoint but also an overpopulation and unwanted children standpoint.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 11:57 PM
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Spam is pretty easy to identify from the content. I find that to be a lame reason. Was it on topic? Arguably. Was it self promotional? Not that I see.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 11:55 PM
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Really? Someone pumps content into a dead sub and the mods react by banning the person? Without even judging the content of the posts? I'm glad our mods aren't like that *wink*
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 11:54 PM
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Your post/comment was removed, because: Rule 6: Demonizing women. While generalized discussion of gendered traits is allowed, there is a line, and your comment was deemed to have crossed it. Rule 8: Gender-specific insult. Gender-specific insults, especially ones that denigrate other men by diminishing their masculinity (e.g. cuck, beta, incel, virgin, pussy, etc) are not allowed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 11:53 PM
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What was the ban message? One of your posts is upvoted quite a bit and they don't seem to have removed them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 11:50 PM
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I mean, depending on how this phrase is interpreted, it could mean the same as what you're saying. Now, maybe it doesn't. But the way it's written.. "empowering men" and discarding definitions of maledom... sounds pretty good. If the redefinition of "being a man" is such that it is unrestrictive, like traditional definitions of "being a man" are, that's great. But if it's "we have another definition we'd like you to conform to" then that's just swapping one enforced gender role for another.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/20 10:09 AM
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I have no idea why you're here in the first place.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/20 10:07 AM
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Your post/comment was removed, because it contained a gender-specific insult. Gender-specific insults, especially ones that denigrate other men by diminishing their masculinity (e.g. cuck, beta, incel, virgin, pussy, etc) are not allowed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/20 10:06 AM
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gender neutrality is very often times an example gynocentrism The only way gender neutrality is gynocentrism is if you consider anything less than complete masculinity as without value and shameful or unmanly, and that mentality hurts men, not helps them. It smacks of some serious insecurity, one that plagues men far too much already.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/20 10:48 AM

/u/notsonewguy7: Please add a top level comment to this post about what you think about this content, what inspired you to share it, and how it relates to LWMA.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/20 05:04 PM
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What if someone comes at you with a gun?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 11:46 PM
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Ah yes, the notoriously liberal government of squints at paper small-town Georgia.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 11:44 PM
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Yeah, all those bloody wars fought with thrown bottles. It's amazing we don't have bottle control laws.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 11:07 PM
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Just so I'm following along here, the operating principle here is such that, anything anyone does to you that may threaten your health, say smoking a cigarette near you, or driving a car near you, or mopping a floor near you, the correct, proportional, acceptable response would be to shoot them dead. Do I got this right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 11:06 PM
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kill me with a snowball You really just said that in a sentence. Maybe they don't have snow where you are. But that raises a great question -- you think the person who threw the bottle at him was trying to kill him? Not usually the first thing someone grabs when they're looking to kill someone. Now... a gun on the other hand....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 11:03 PM
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(ツ)_/¯ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8525465/Black-man-charged-shooting-dead-white-teen-claims-self-defense.html
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 10:38 PM
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he should just lay down and take his beating What, like you expect black people to do when it's from the police? Conservatives approaching the point but still missing it entirely
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 10:35 PM
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The intolerant left won't allow opposing viewpoints and must silence any right wing voice with violence. And the only way the right wing can think of to counter that is to use MORE violence. golf clap
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 10:34 PM
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How's this for law? https://lawcenter.giffords.org/minimum-age-to-purchase-possess-in-wisconsin/ The state [of Wisconsin] also generally prohibits the possession of a firearm by any person under age 18 These restrictions do not apply, however, when the firearm is being used by a person under age 18 when supervised by an adult during target practice or a course of instruction The only way that kid was legally possessing that gun was if you argue that his purpose in going to that protest was for t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 10:33 PM
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Imagine having your mom drive you to another state with a gun and then deliberately walking up to an upset crowd and provoking people until you need to defend yourself, all as an excuse to kill people you disagree with. That's some glowing-brain stuff right there. If this kid wanted to be a wannabe cop, he could have done cop type stuff in his own fucking town, not be shipped in like a vigilante mercenary. He could have collected lost shopping carts. He could have patrolled the unsafe parts of t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 10:22 PM
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Completely incorrect. It's entirely relevant because police, prosecutors, jurors treat black folks differently than white folks doing the exact same thing. This isn't in dispute, except among those that have an agenda to pretend like the above doesn't exist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 10:13 PM
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This is some Ben Shapiro level bullshit. Who is it racist against? The imaginary blue race?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 10:12 PM
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What about if I throw a snowball at you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 10:10 PM
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Take a breather.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 10:10 PM
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Report them and we'll get to it. Maybe not within an hour on a Saturday morning, but we'll get to it, if we agree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 10:09 PM
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This is a left wing group.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 10:07 PM
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The usual argument is that good candidates get excluded. But taken too far, that can mean that not-good candidates get included over better ones. Now, maybe the standards behind what is "good" have certain socioeconomic biases. Maybe what we think is "good" is skewed towards a demographic, and other demographics can offer things that are also good that the assessors have not considered. (Sounds like every single 80s movie about business...) But... does that really happen in orchestras? (Besides,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/20 08:07 AM
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I guess the question is: is the purpose of an orchestra audition to find the best performers, or is it to find a certain proportion of demographics?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/20 08:03 AM
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I don't think the problem is primarily in the courts, but in the law enforcement and in the prosecutors. And they are better equipped to influence the courts than you are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/20 08:02 AM
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TBF it's true, in the court's position, the time to bring up those issues was at or shortly after the time of the order. It's just a functional fact, hearings on order extensions operate under the functional presumption that the order itself was sound. Once you're at this point, all of that is irrelevant. As far as the court was concerned, you had your chance to appeal/etc. when the order was made. At an extension hearing, the court specifically doesn't deal with that because it's just not what …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/20 07:57 AM
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Best advice I can tell you is you need to have established a healthy ongoing communication and discussion with your GF about difficult issues before you do anything serious. Doesn't matter the issue. If you don't think you can do that you have no business getting married, not yet. Because it's only going to get worse/harder later on. It's all about mutual respect and concern and support.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/20 07:51 AM
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Are we attributing the stupid here to the people who did the study, or the people who make the job ads and the resume scanning? Because if the hirers are the ones with the stereotypes then it would make sense for the study to use those stereotypes in their study.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/20 07:49 AM
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First of all, this is less true than the average when it comes to primates, our closest animal relatives. Second of all... as it happens, us upright apes are at a higher level of sophistication and intelligence than the animal world. We don't eat raw meat off the freshly killed animal and we don't wash ourselves with our tongues, for example, so animal behavior is not really a suitable model for human behavior.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/20 07:18 PM
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That says that mothers feel a biological connection to their child and says there is in fact such a biological connection, but it doesn't make any conclusions about whether that feeling stems from that biological fact. It also doesn't say anything about whether that makes the mother subjectively a better parent. Conversely it could make the mother more clingy and possessive which is not a positive childraising attribute. So to take that coincidental fact by itself, and extrapolate it to "therefo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/20 07:05 PM
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They may be able to get partial custody, but not primary custody. In some states the deal is you form a "parenting plan" or "parenting agreement" and in that agreement you hash out how decisions about the child will be made between both parents, including visitation, support, schools, living environment, etcetera. But much of the time custody is contentious and fought for by both parties.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/20 06:59 PM
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Notwithstanding my previous comment, just reading the foreword, it seems promising. "[The] problem on the left represents a departure from its historical point of reason and strength." I've always believed in a fully rational liberalism/leftism and have watched in dismay as non-rational foundations were built under them and spread to an expanding suburb of irrational leftism. The net result has been to 1. discredit leftism over the poor foundations it has been mounted upon and 2. too frequently …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/20 03:03 AM
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Honestly I didn't like Areo (IDW commentary site edited by Pluckrose and printed Sokal Squared) after a while. Way too right wing of an audience. It's one thing to play the nonpartisan neutrality, it's another to print mostly conservative pieces and have non-conservative viewpoints routinely voted down. I don't think Areo reflects Pluckrose directly, but I do wish there were other ways to find good alt opinion that isn't littered with yikes. Doesn't give me a terribly good impression of the IDW …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/20 02:55 AM
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if we say more ECE programs will allow students to thrive in the long run, even if their parents aren't around, we need to show how that actually succeeds. Is it only in certain communities? Are other communities not impacted I would add that it's been shown repeatedly in the US that after-school programs are very productive for the youth of the community, and alas (that pesky economic system again) they are frequently underfunded or cut -- and more so in poorer communities, which tend to strong…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/20 04:37 AM
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Discusses how unfounded allegations can be and are sometimes used to take down men, even progressive men, as a social/political tactic. Also a happy ending of sorts as the collapse of the attempted fraud led to a second wind for his campaign and career.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/20 08:20 PM
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Thank you for the discussion. Which country/countries have successfully implemented and tested this for their population? France is the one I am passingly familiar with. I don't know about studies about its effect on child development. https://www.swisslife.com/en/home/hub/why-having-children-is-so-attractive-in-france.html There's a flaw in expecting these programs to succeed in any system. The thing is that there simply aren't enough people to be trained to run these programs for the populatio…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/20 06:11 AM
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A single mom can't raise a child, educate herself and make a lot of money for her child's economic future That has a lot to do with the economic system. I would point out that the first two words of this sub are "Left Wing" But child rearing is much more than just economic support, and is oftentimes intangible - something the state can't provide. Sounds like handwaving. It depends on what aspects of rearing you are talking about, no matter which ones you think are actually necessary. In countrie…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/20 02:30 AM
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Of the sub? A general sentiment of not shaming men for not conforming to traditionalist social expectations -- like being killers?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/20 06:09 PM
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Uh-uh. That liberalism isn't the liberalism you're thinking of. Liberalism generally refers to free market capitalism, what in the US we would call "libertarianism," the political party version of which, I'll note, uses yellow for itself. Anyway, I think blue is fitting not because of it's association with the center-left (that is, in the US), but because it's pretty much universal color for males. As for being associated with communism, major center-left and left parties around the world (aside…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/20 06:07 PM
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My first thought was a quill
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/20 05:49 PM
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Construction workers... now that's a woke career field if I ever heard one. Lawl.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/20 12:10 AM
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So, can the man choose to abort?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/20 05:12 AM
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Incidentally... OP is focusing solely on the headline of the article, and not seeming to read the actual article at all. DJABBIC. For example the second section: [C]ompanies can set up daycare centers, they can encourage male employees to take more parental leave or to work part-time. You can make your workforce aware that someone who takes full responsibility for their child is not a “wimp”. Companies should establish a more family-friendly culture. This is an important structural aspect of thi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/20 07:40 PM
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We're not even anti-rant, but this kind of "fuck you all, you bastards" attitude isn't winning any friends. It's a long-winded screed that is mostly not about the topic being posted, but mostly about how he thinks he is being treated here and how unfair we all are. This is less of a men's issues post and more of a his issues post. This user has a spotty history here and it's only out of an abundance of inclusion that he's not (still) banned.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/20 07:35 PM
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mods still don't ban those annoying PUAS who come here to post their nonsense. how ''feminism is terrible because it has made it harder for me to get girls'' how ''the biggest problem men are having is that we are not getting sex from women'' Post actual links to actual comments. Or report them yourself. Bitching here without any sources is just hearsay.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/20 07:32 PM
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The argument is used to deride the concerns of western women as petty compared to the concerns of third world women. Not to deride the concerns of third world men. We already know the people that we are telling this to already don't care about men's concerns, regardless of western or third world men, so that's a non-starter. It's to deflate the legitimacy of their argument that they as western women somehow have it terrible, and that by railing against their comparably miniscule "oppression" und…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/20 06:41 AM
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I remember and am fond of this strip, and I recall it being quite even-handed to both genders, supporting rights and calling out genderism against both, and iirc it was made by a woman too. But "derailment"!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/20 05:42 PM
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That doesn't seem to be what NTV is for at all, not even what it claims to be. It's a service to "help" men in domestic violence situations "stop committing domestic violence." https://ntv.org.au/ No to Violence works with men who use family violence, and the sector that supports them to change their abusive and violent behaviour. https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/ServiceProfiles/mens-referral-service The Men’s Referral Service is a free, confidential telephone helpline that offers coun…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/20 07:49 PM
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After some searching, it looks to me that the whole point of NTV is not to support men as victims, but to support men as perpetrators "fix" themselves and get help for their violence. (It's all very convenient. We love you, you're just evil, and we can make you comply into non-evilness, in our image.) So in context it isn't all that surprising. https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/urgent-need-violent-men-facing-delays-in-getting-help-amid-pandemic-20200714-p55btz.html https://www.theage.c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/20 07:44 PM
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How is this not victim blaming?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/20 07:40 PM
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It's BLM not BMLM. Should we talk about the forced sterilization of black, Latina, and native women in the US as recently as the 1970s? Or the rapes of black slave women for over a century? Maybe it's not a gender thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/20 09:41 PM
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you think that the ACA -- a health insurance law -- should have also addressed the socioeconomic inequality in access to car insurance?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/20 09:36 PM
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This is false, and based largely on a misunderstanding of what a medical physical is, or more to the point, what the "physical" -- aka "wellness check" -- covered under the law entails. https://www.healthcare.gov/preventive-care-adults/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/20 09:29 PM
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Jennicam where are you now
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/20 11:10 PM
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Actually, I like that she did that, at least with the incident that was on video, because you then saw the woman fully admit what a "bitch" (her word) she had been to "him."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/20 11:10 PM
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Do you know thing number one about how a newspaper works at all?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/20 03:25 AM
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Someone (whose opinion was printed in The New York Times) disagrees with you. FTFY
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/20 03:21 AM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/black-lives-matter-releases-policy-agenda-n620966 End the war on black people. Reparations for past and continuing harms. Divestment from the institutions that criminalize, cage and harm black people; and investment in the education, health and safety of black people. Economic justice for all and a reconstruction of the economy to ensure our communities have collective ownership, not merely access. Community control of the laws, institutions and policies that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/20 03:20 AM
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see, you can be unified on some goals, and not unified on other goals. it's like, two people can agree to have pizza, but they don't have to have the same toppings.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/20 03:14 AM
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Who says that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/20 03:14 AM
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I thought we didn't need police because we could all just have guns instead? We certainly don't want federal police kicking us out of a federal grazing land for not paying right? Of course, defunding the police and not having any form of public safety are simply not the same thing. It means the police systems we have now need to be replaced with something better.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/20 03:13 AM
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His anger is misdirected perhaps, but his experience is valid and not even dubious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/20 03:08 AM
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This guy seriously believes that medical records from the 1500s wouldn't be slanted. TBF medical knowledge in general for women or non-white people lags behind that for whites and men even to some extent now, it certainly did 500 years ago too. One might argue that hysteria among men manifests in aggressive behaviors (posses, lynchings, wars) that are normalized and considered "what men do". How likely is it for a man who insists there is danger to be treated as hysterical versus a woman who ins…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/20 09:14 AM
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Perhaps this belief is due to the term being built on the greek word for uterus
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/20 09:02 AM
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Enraged by the death of Trayvon Martin in search of justice for Mike Brown We make space for transgender brothers ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ They don't even mention Breonna Taylor there. Note how they don't want to center men? Now that's telling. Every non-feminist movement has to center on men now?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/20 08:53 AM
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I think you have it backwards It shouldn't be "the one should be okay if the others are okay", instead it should be "the others are not okay either"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/20 05:17 PM

Your post/comment has been removed, because it fundamentally disputes egalitarian values. As the sub is devoted to an essentially egalitarian perspective, posts/comments that are fundamentally incompatible with that perspective are not allowed (although debate about what egalitarian values are and how to implement them are). If you disagree with this ruling, please appeal by messaging the moderators.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 09:16 AM
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the idea that men react badly to feminism because their identities as men are fragile Yet you say yourself three paragraphs above about the very fragility of the state of manhood. That it has to not only be earned, but upheld. being a man is the only way an adult male can have value in society. Once you age out of boyhood, if you have not proven yourself to be a man, you are seen as nothing and will be treated as nothing. Are you promoting that? Cause I want nothing to do with it. The issue isn'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 09:14 AM
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The person is saying that "fragile men" is "men who refuse to show weakness" and you've managed to invert that to mean "weak men" when that's exactly the point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 09:10 AM
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I can't help you if you're not reading what other people say but just going to double down on your own myopic interpretation that justifies your knee-jerk resentment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/20 08:18 PM
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Talk about grossly missing the point. A single parent household is insufficient to raise a child. It doesn't matter if it's a father or a mother. The gender of the parents doesn't even matter. What matters is a robust household of providers and raisers. Given the serious economic inequality in our system, on top of the increasing need for multiple income households, a single parent will struggle no matter what gender the parent is. I can't respond to the unsourced anonymous people you say keep s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 03:30 AM
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I'm banned from /r/menslib, I don't remember exactly what for, something I said was removed and tempbanned for "victim blaming", and I told them to fuck right off. I was already unhappy with the place anyway.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/20 06:00 PM
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We don't like rage porn here either. Expressing valid concerns or even frustrations is not rage porn, though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/20 05:55 PM
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There still exists a distinction between liberalism and leftism. There still exists the idea of idpol as being counterproductive to leftist goals. I don't know where exactly she falls on that distinction, but she has continually shown a considerable amount of consciousness. If anything, it's an indication that being anti-idpol doesn't mean being blind to legitimate issues faced by those identities.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/20 11:38 AM

Your post was removed, because we do not feel it is sufficiently related to men's issues. If you disagree with this ruling, please appeal by messaging the moderators.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/20 11:27 AM
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If you had taken even a minute to look at the goals of these movements watches a youtube video from someone not involved in them PROOF
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/20 11:19 AM
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Honestly? The very term "social minority" is bunk. "Minority" literally means the group that is smaller. The term is nonsensical. It's taking a word that has an established meaning and redefining it because someone wants to use the word for themselves, even though it doesn't apply to them, so they have to redefine it to include them. The baldfacedness of it is ridiculous. Minority as a term came to be associated with "oppressed group" because majorities tended to oppress minorities through the m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/20 06:47 AM
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Your post was removed, because we do not feel it is sufficiently related to men's issues. If you disagree with this ruling, please appeal by messaging the moderators.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/20 10:16 PM
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That's mods. Not admins.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/20 04:31 PM
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I feel like this is hyperbolic false equivocating. Ragebaity even. It's like saying that there's no difference between disagreement and hate. That's a strawman lofted (often) by alt-righters who want to claim persecution every time they're called out on their unambiguous hatefulness. MAH FREE SPEETCHES.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/20 03:10 AM
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shrug
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/20 03:07 AM
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/r/MensRights can decide for itself whether it's in that category. Past few months? It has been real close.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/20 03:06 AM
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NOW is governmental? Huh? The most vocal and provocative voices tend to be the ones that rise to the top of any public interest organization, regardless of what social topic they deal with.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/20 03:28 AM
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No, it's the US that that has a really different idea. Most so-called liberals in the US would fit right in with conservatives in any other Western country, and vice versa most mainstream western conservatives would fit right in with American Democrats. A party like the GOP in any other country would be considered "far right." Only because the American right wing is so anti-egalitarian that egalitarianism is seen as leftist in this country in contrast. As a result, what qualifies as "left wing" …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/20 02:53 AM
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Or he's saying that 3W should be addressing these things since they stem from the same root of the things 3W says it opposes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/20 10:06 AM
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What definition of "moving away" means "devoting all energy to opposing and destroying with vitriol?" That's not the only way. It sounds like you want leftist men to become "ANTIFEM" and I think there's honestly bigger fish to fry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/20 12:50 AM
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I can understand many MRAs' frustrations with feminism, and not only that, we're never going to get anything done if we don't challenge at least some parts of the feminist doctrine I can understand it, but that doesn't mean I have to support, endorse, or defend it. Challenging feminist doctrine and even the feminist movement at large and personally attacking or bashing all individual self-described feminists isn't necessarily the same thing. It's the difference between ideas and people. NOW is j…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/20 12:48 AM
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And we have a rule against that too, more or less.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/20 12:42 AM
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some men here prefer to get women to suffer as much as men suffer instead of working in favour of men No, you're right inasmuch a tendency towards disdain for women. For what it's worth, we have a rule against that. But it's not a clear cut line between "hating women" and "thinking women should have it harder". I do not care about fairness and equality at all, I care about men living better lives, not equalizing I think fairness and equalizing, factually equalizing, would go a long way to men li…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/20 12:41 AM
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I can think of people who have either taken or had applied to them the feminist label, who aren't the kinds of feminists I would object to. Despite the academic extremists, at one point in feminist history the main line seemed to be about women empowerment, which I have no problem with in a literal sense, rather than destruction or disenfranchisement of men. I don't see anything wrong with listening to and respecting women and women's issues as long as we are also listening to and respecting men…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/20 12:36 AM
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Mod here, I'd like to think so too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/20 12:31 AM
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I get the big tent goal of the sub, and I try to abide by it as a mod, but I do think it leans sometimes in ways that aren't even arguably leftist. Not maybe as much in comments but when I see the things that get UVed or DVed sometimes I wonder, and I've expressed this to other mods too. I as well am a pretty damn far leftist. It's hard to see people bashing BLM (and it's not that I haven't disagreed with BLM ever) and lambasting it as feminism in disguise, or bashing leftist politicians for wha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/20 12:30 AM
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Joe Rogan isn't leftist. Just because he supported Bernie doesn't make him leftist, in fact one of the talking points was that him not being a leftist showed the appeal of the principles gopng beyond party or politics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/20 12:26 AM
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And these were not "poor working class men in need of economic resources," that's just blatantly false, they were workers -- many management -- at elite high-end private clubs, aside from the money they were making off drug sales to their high end clients. How 'blatant' drug dealers 'treated like celebrities' in Diamond Strip bars were brought to justice police became aware that known drug dealers were being afforded "celebrity status" in a number of popular bars and nightclubs. They discovered …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/20 10:04 AM
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That's an inaccurate mischaracterization of the sentences given. The longest prison sentence doled out in the case is 6 years, for the "main man." Most got 2-3 years. A few were given suspended sentences and/or sentenced to community service ("unpaid work").
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/20 09:46 AM

This article is not directly relevant to men's issues. It's just a story about criminals being arrested and sentenced for crimes who happen to be male. Rule 1 and rule 11.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/20 09:41 AM
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OP can you repost this with the source sub in the title? And add a comment with your own opinion about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/20 06:04 AM
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OP, please add a comment with your perspective on this to start a discussion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/20 06:01 AM
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British police weren't reformed. They didn't get changed from all armed and "reformed" to non-armed. They were mostly built that way from the start. That's a non sequitur and not applicable at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_use_of_firearms_in_the_United_Kingdom UK police are not evidence of "reform" at all, but of deliberate design. Which is why most PDs need to be torn down and rebuilt from scratch. Reform is not a thing that works. We've done "reform" for decades and we're still in …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/20 05:46 AM
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Feminism and SJW's have gone full-blown Fundamentalist Yes. thank you. The tactics and rhetoric of the idpol left are frankly indistinguishable from religious fundamentalists and even conservatives. I really don't know how people don't see that. This is why I often talk about "heresy" and "dogma" when it comes to questioning the dominant idpol narrative, because that's exactly how it's executed. (I was an atheist in Catholic school. I'm pretty familiar with that old game.)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/20 05:42 AM
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Mostly left. With some anarcho mixed in. And some populism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/20 05:39 AM
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I mean, there's black people who wave the Confederate flag. There were French collaborationists. There were Jews who collaborated with the Nazis. There was an American Tokyo Rose. There was a British man, Lord Haw Haw, who served as a Nazi propaganda voice while Germany was bombing his homeland. There's gay Republicans. Heck.... there's /r/menslib. There were slaves who were put in charge of other slaves ("drivers"). In Nazi camps there were Jews who likewise had authority other prisoners (Oberk…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/20 05:38 AM
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But demilitarizing is far from the only problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/20 05:26 AM
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Not that distinguishing when you throw Libya and Syria into the mix. Or Clinton and Blair's cheerleading for Iraq war.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/20 07:16 PM
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Decent take
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/20 06:59 PM
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Speaking of police, when I called the police after a woman in my house made tangible threats to my safety, and assaulted me, they showed up and told me "no crime has been committed here today." So yeah, police are not allies here. Let's not forget that police departments had their start in slave recapture patrols. Which, incidentally, primarily targeted male slaves.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/20 06:50 PM
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So what were those essential police spending their time on that day? Oh, yeah, squelching free speech and gassing and beating people who call them names. Those are your oh-so-holy angel protectors. On a good day, thugs. On a bad day, murderers. They throw you a crumb of actual policing once in a while and you're eternally grateful. There's a word for that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/20 06:44 PM
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If the goal was to abolish the police, the slogan would be "abolish the police." Which some people do use. It's a straw man to argue that, in this instance only, defund means abolish. We defund things all the time and they are not abolished. We defund education, we defund social services, we defund SSI/Medicare, we defund infrastructure, yet those things still exist, only less so. The sudden insistence by detractors (and police defenders) that "defund" can only mean "abolish" when it is followed…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/20 06:40 PM
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Because neoliberal types are quick to jump on that particular bandwagon for the political karma. It allows them to differentiate themselves from neocons.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/20 06:34 PM
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Depends on the emotion, and it depends on who is doing the accepting. I mean, moms are generally pretty supportive of their sons' emotions. Doesn't make it a thing in society in general.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/20 04:04 AM
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Something something honey something vinegar. When you start from an anti-man preconception, though, it's hard, I guess, to consider being nice to them. This is also the problem with /r/menslib. The whole sub is based on the premise that men should want to be fixed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/20 03:50 AM

This isn't some kind of official Medium-authored op-ed. Not even someone with any significant attention. It's just some random wag who posted it on Medium. Doesn't even have any responses (at time of this comment). Anyone can submit to Medium. Doesn't make it noteworthy. (edit: rewrite and sticky)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/20 08:10 AM
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In my opinion, the reason there hasn't been much about GF/BLM in this sub is because a. other subs are already talking about it plenty and b. probably the majority of people realize they should take a back seat on that discussion for reasons other than male advocacy. I also don't think there's a need to try to drive focus of BLM onto men, that seems redundant and unnecessary. To me a focus of male advocacy is to argue that the effects of social issues on men shouldn't be ignored in favor of excl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/20 09:38 PM
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I put up with /r/MR for a while, because there were still evidence of reasonableness in it, but that slowly disappeared until all that was left was T_D-esque kneejerk reactionary male rage. In fact if you want to know the meaning of "toxic forms of masculinity" look no further than today's /r/MR. /r/menslib can piss up a flagpole. It's not men's lib, it's women's lib for men. It's Alan Colmes on Fox News.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/20 05:59 PM
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/r/MensRights: Increasingly conservative and anti-egalitarian, even verging on racist /r/MensLib: Explicitly pro-feminist and anti-anti-feminist. Everything couched in or limited to a feminist narrative. Can't speak so much for the others. I suspect MGTOW and redpill tend similarly to /r/MensRights. MGTOW is a semi-specific philosophy of male living. /r/purplepill looks like spamtown. /r/bluepill is private, but it's redirect is anti-progressive. I also follow /r/egalitarianism which has been so…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/20 05:56 PM
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There's got to be an egalitarian left, doesn't there? I mean my understanding of classical communism is, well, class based, leaving all other criteria equal. Is there really such a thing as a gynocentric or androcentric communism? Socialism maybe, though a poor fit since that's also supposed to be based on class.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/20 05:49 PM
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I don't understand how even Democrats can defend the nuclear family, frankly. Wasn't it that fabled commie socialist (/s) Hillary Rodham Clinton who wrote the book "It Takes A Village?"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/20 05:43 PM
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And that's BLM's fault?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/20 01:21 AM
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Okay, but you hating feminists and listing all the crimes of feminism does not change the syntax of the English language.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/20 01:20 AM
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Let me make something clear for the people who are bad at English. Normally, when an adjective is applied to a noun, this is called a qualifier. This means that the purpose of the adjective is to specify a certain type of the noun. For example, "white house" means a "house" that is "white," to differentiate it from houses that are not white. "Black people" means a "people" that are "black," to differentiate from people who are not black. "White house" does not imply that all houses are white. "B…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/20 08:44 PM
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There's a typo in the sub name
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/20 08:34 PM
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I guess it goes both ways. I don't think that men in say the 1700s or 1800s skipped work for their wives' 11 births. They had midwives and such for that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/20 08:20 PM
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There's plenty of male egalitarianism issues to unpack here. Traditionalist societies think nothing of maternity leave. Would a reporter judge a woman for taking time off for a birth? Good guy coach gives his player leave to see his child being born. Reporter expects that the man should find his work more important than his own child being born. It's an attitude that further erodes the value of fatherhood for both the child and the father. Babies are for women, sports and money are for men, or s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/20 07:38 PM
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MIT has had such a program for its students for a while, jocularly known as "MIT charm school". I think the general term is typically "social skills" or "relationship skills".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/20 07:14 PM
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The term "pick up artist" quite unambiguously means someone who convinces women to sleep with them, as conquest or "notches on the bedpost," not someone who simply knows how to approach women. You're trying to make it mean something else that doesn't even make sense for its name. You're interested in meeting women and being able to talk to them, not interested in "picking them up" which is what PUA means. I think you're misled if you think the skills that PUAs use, which are for extremely short …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/20 05:45 PM
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I can't decide if RW MRAs are brigading in here, or if people just don't have the ability to be objective and egalitarian even while claiming LWness.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/20 01:14 AM

Link to actual tweet and thread: https://twitter.com/Elex_Michaelson/status/1272723422699634688
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/20 01:12 AM
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Is there literally ANYTHING in this image that suggests or implies that this reflects then entirety of BLM or that it should replace a genderless message? Or is it a voice among many that says don't forget about women victims? You should all be ashamed at your attitude here. Hypocritical doesn't even give it justice. Men don't have to own a majority of DV victimization in order for male DV victimization to be worthy of attention or mention. Men don't have to own a majority of gendered pay unfair…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/20 12:55 AM
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The term "incel" was literally invented by a woman who was having trouble finding relationships and started an online group for similar people. She, like many of the women in the group, found a relationship within a couple years and left. So yeah.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/20 08:56 PM
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https://areomagazine.com/2019/03/13/immigrants-who-lived-under-socialism-understand-it-better-than-anyone/ which slams Sanders, the DSA, and anyone who has ever waved the color red (other than US Republicans, involuntarily) https://areomagazine.com/2019/08/01/that-mysterious-property-white-privilege/ in which it is argued that police being less likely to kill or beat white people is not a form of privilege https://areomagazine.com/2018/11/20/making-sense-of-immigration-why-multiculturalism-is-at…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/20 06:30 PM
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who can leave their communities as soon as it becomes too complicated Really? Maybe if you're middle class and the job market is good.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/20 09:31 PM
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IMO Areo went significantly into right wing territory about a year after S2. There were smatterings of IDW leftism, but the majority of major articles became significantly RW. Gerfried Ambrosch's articles in particular, especially his repeated use of generalized terms and blanket condemnations to describe his specific problems with very specific situations. In general though, despite waving a flag of fact-based nonpartisanism, what they print is predominantly anti-left. Even Reason is more balan…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/20 08:53 PM
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I mean.... fathers are parents. Otherwise "mothers, parents" is redundant.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/20 10:28 AM
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The nuclear family is straight up traditionalist conservative gender role bullshit. I have no idea why LWMAs would defend the nuclear family. Like planned car-centric suburbs, the nuclear family is a 50s pipe dream pushed by automobile and land development companies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familialism
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/20 10:24 AM
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Only in America do we treat our homes as isolated fiefdoms with inconvenient bordering fiefdoms. The dream of a mini-manor to call our own is part and parcel of the bullshit "American Dream." In most places, a community is literally that, a group of people in an area that support each other. But Americans think of that as commie bullshit. So, no, I don't think they do. I think they actually envision a world where people who live near each other actually help and support each other, and not only …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/20 10:19 AM
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The word "father" appears neither in OP's post or in the text of the page linked, so, I don't see how you could be talking about fathers and be referring to either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/20 10:16 AM
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And you have done a thorough survey to determine that everyone totally agrees with everything in this opinion piece
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 07:02 AM
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Ah the ever-bulletproof evidence of some wack jobs Youtube video. Only slightly better than some wack jobs anonymous Tweet
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 07:01 AM
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Aren't men part of the community?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 07:01 AM
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Again, presumption that only violent dangerous criminals are in jail/prison. Ten yards and automatic first down.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 07:00 AM
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smh
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 06:59 AM
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I guess you never saw Breaking Bad
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 06:59 AM
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Yes, the only time blacks are harassed/killed/arrested by police is when they commit crimes ಠ_ಠ
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 06:59 AM
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"BLM statement" is as much a fallacy as "MRA statement"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 06:58 AM
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Communities working together... crazy, I know. You think the Pilgrims worked together to survive harsh winters? Or the frontier families? (actually, yes they did)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 06:57 AM
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Again, there's a false binary here. The kibbutzim model wrote parents out of the equation of their children's upbringing, but that doesn't really mean that the isolated, self-interested, siloed nuclear family is therefore the only correct solution.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 06:55 AM
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Sounds like a failure of welfare requirements (especially after being whittled down constantly by so-called "small government fiscal conservatives") rather than a failure of the concept of welfare or social support itself. Should we likewise damn capitalism because it's enabled so much feminist power? Should we outlaw women's contraception because it enables women to not get married? Nah.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 06:54 AM
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destroy the nuclear family You say that like it's a bad thing and 'replace black male fathers with the state'? Naw Edit: TRADITIONALISM TRADITIONALISM EVERYWHERE
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 06:51 AM
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TBF it's been tarnished by people who adopt it, too. I mean, have you read /r/mr? Especially lately. There's a reason why LWMA is here and /r/mr doesn't suffice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 06:50 AM
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So, it's literally only one genre of video games. They're probably better at writing fantasy novels too. I'm not sure I care.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 06:48 AM
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White feminism fails at intersectionality yet again
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 06:47 AM
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I'm always called an MRA whenever I defend a man or men in general. Then they find pics of me wearing a hat and go "ooh fedora lol neckbeard" because yeah, fucking having a hat is a thought crime. I don't even accept the MRA label. But if you question the sacred dogma you are a heretic and will burn in hell.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 06:45 AM
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a disturbing emotional outburst triggered by something that does not align with her normal behavior I hope that's not supposed to be a defense. "I'm only racist when I'm really angry, what?" it could be that he knows she says vile things sometimes and just brushes them aside as it doesn't overpower his full experience of her. I don't even comprehend the rationalness of this concept. As I said, "yeah, I know she's a vicious racist, but she's hot" isn't much of a defense. Or it could also be that …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/20 06:02 PM
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victim blaming Rich athlete having psycho racist wife is victim, umok. Divorce, it's a thing, look it up. You're saying he's forced to stay married to a psycho violent racist? You don't know what they have ever discussed before in their entire history together. Imagine marrying someone and not having any idea that they're a violent racist. I guess if your marriage is shallow as fuck, sure. In which case, that's on you. It's about his employer's decision. I mean the whole argument that his employ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/20 11:36 PM
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But they should. HRC comes to mind.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/20 10:39 PM
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Question: If you were a self-respecting, successful guy, who was not racist or violent, would you spend your life with a woman who is racist and violent about it? You would have to assume that either 1. he doesn't know much at all about his wife to not have known she was racist and violent or 2. he held similar beliefs. But maybe she's just great in the sack and he really didn't care if she wanted to shoot "disgusting cattle" black people? That's so much better... He later says "this is not tole…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/20 10:39 PM
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Ehhh... I can't 100% agree. Although I will say that it was the internet interactions with people I'd also had personal experiences with were where the ruptures happened.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/20 10:32 PM
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But friend friends. Don't fall into the misplaced emotions mistake that so many men unwittingly do. And I've been there, and it's easy to end up in and hard to get over. Try not to do it. Err on the side of caution. Better to regret a missed opportunity than to regret a destroyed friendship.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/20 10:31 PM
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I think that agreed upon definitions is important to effective communication (some people don't agree, and not surprisingly, they are difficult to effectively communicate with)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/20 10:28 PM
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It's worth noting that a lot of people give lip service to this definition, yet in practice, do not abide by it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/20 10:27 PM
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Well.... dictionary definitions are so oppressive these days doncha know :P
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/20 10:27 PM
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Let's not devolve into a "definition of feminism", because that gets distracting. I think most of us are hopefully aware that (despite protestations from those who benefit from denying it) there are multiple versions of feminism. I would say someone who believes this they should be treated as equals to men, have access to proper health care, job opportunities and freedom to live their lives free from harm and unrealistic societal standards based on sex/gender. that's what you'd also call an /r/e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/20 10:26 PM
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Would mod-added flairs also help? Like "Good discussion" or "Positive content" or something like that that could be added to quality / desirable posts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/20 10:30 AM

The content of this post is controversial and on its face, would violate rules of this sub. However, the conversation in this thread so far is positive and very much a good discussion and critique of this sentiment. So, I'm approving it on that basis. Hopefully things will continue to be constructive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/20 10:16 AM
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Alt-right is not a "random identity trait" the left needs to take a good look at itself from other people You mean people like Charlie Kirk, Dennis Prager, Kaitlin Bennett, Tomi Lahren? Yeah no.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/20 06:00 AM
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Every time I point out how the study doesn't say what you say it does, you double down on paranoid insistences that it's a sinister plot to reprogram all men or all male CSA victims en masse. All ultimately because you insist you turned out fine without any. you misunderstood the research Mmmhmm, but you got it totally figured out fer sher. deliberately misrepresenting the reality of it's implications. Oh. Yeah, that's not speculation or anything. Here's what we're discussing: treating an alread…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/20 09:48 PM
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For sure, when the actual occupations were torn down or dwindled, a lot of them moved into other areas. Some went into left politics. Some went into social causes. Some are still out there but now doing things like what we see today. I know there's former Occupy people participating in the recent protests and using some of what was developed there, such as the field medics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/20 09:42 PM
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And recently... https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/08/monthly-payments-2000-coronavirus-243670 Although specifically for covid response.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/20 08:54 PM
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Well now you're just speculating, not to mention assuming bad intent. The study she cites here is a universal program and not a "childhood sexual abuse" victim program I mean, one, she cites that as evidence that it's possible to contrive a sexual behavior instructional program, to show that it's not a crazy idea to think you can break the cycle of abuse with the right education. As I pointed out in another comment, we educate children not to hit each other, to share with each other, to not call…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/20 08:48 PM
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It's literally in the paragraph you just quoted. sexually abused youth trauma-informed responsiveness to youth maltreated youth men with abuse histories
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/20 08:36 PM
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"encourage them to be trans" What are you smoking? Are you referring to allowing children to determine their own identity when you say "encourage them to be trans?"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/20 08:28 PM
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The income inequality movement has been going on for a while. Occupy ring a bell?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/20 08:25 PM
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You're using Candace Owens as an expert on the left?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/20 08:24 PM
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You compared therapy for sexual abuse survivors to conversion therapy and called it an "apt analogy" That's a rather apt analogy Aren't they both intended to alter a child's sexuality? The crux of the study you posted about and have been angrily railing against is about the idea of teaching kids to be decent to each other in sexual relations, and you're describing it as "altering sexuality." If you don't think we should teach kids to be decent to each other sexually, why stop there? Why not also…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/20 08:20 PM
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Every actual leftist I know considers these in their top 5 or at least top 10. I don't know if you remember how much we were talking about Medicare For All last year, even this year well into the covid period? The discussion was all over the place. Also, remember UBI? That was a hot topic in the primary campaign. Now, it depends on your definition of leftist. If you consider, say, Joe Biden a leftist, then, sure, you're venn diagram is going to be off a bit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/20 08:12 PM
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Are you suggesting that the goal of male sexuality education is to turn straight boys gay? Because that would be the only apt parallel with conversion therapy, the purpose of which is to turn gay boys straight. Should we stop teaching kids in school not to hit each other, because it interferes with their natural masculinity? Should we stop teaching kids in school to share with others, because it interferes with their natural self-interest? I don't think so. Therefore why shouldn't we teach kids …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/20 03:02 AM
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You're still assuming that the prescriptions of the paper are for some kind of mass forced indoctrination reprogramming regime and there's no evidence of that in the paper at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/20 02:57 AM
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No, no. You're taking two words from the start of the paper's conclusion and hyperbolizing them with zero context. In the rest of the paragraph, emphasis mine: This kind of gender-transformative content may be a particularly beneficial component of indicated prevention efforts for sexually abused youth Early detection and intervention with sexually abused youth indicated violence prevention programming aimed specifically at maltreated youth, decreasing sexual assault by interrupting processes th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/20 02:54 AM
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Are you using your unfortunate lack of being given treatment as a reason why no one else should get treatment? You turned out okay so no one else should have to?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/20 06:48 AM
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female rapists implicitly attempt to mitigate their severity by trying to portray them as sympathetic victims of previous rape And using that same algorithm for men is positive progress imo.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/20 06:45 AM
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Does it matter? If men are getting help, that's a positive thing. If the US government decided it was going to give every black person $2000/month because of a belief that they can't get by without it, instead of as recompense for past injustices, how many do you think would complain about it or refuse the money?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/20 06:45 AM
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Childhood victimization is some part, but what they also found was some equal part of "men are trash" This is a reach. Universal treatment does not imply presumption of universal chance of re-abuse. What it does is reflect the fact that you don't know whether re-abuse will happen. So you give everyone positive solutions so that those who need them will have them. When someone has foot surgery, they are prescribed hydrocodone, even if they aren't going to need it. When you build a nuclear reactor…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/20 06:41 AM
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Yes, I think that treatment for any victim of any abuse to help them become healthy adults and deal with their abuse in a positive way that does not lead to them becoming reflexive perpetrators of new abuse is a very good thing. And I think you're reading things into the intent that aren't necessarily true. While it's a valid thing to want to be cautious against, I don't think presuming it will or has to be that way is productive, rather it's knee-jerk reactionism. If I had the time and patience…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/20 06:34 AM
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I'd love to know what 2XC would say to this. Probably something like "You should explain to your son the centuries of oppression of women at the hands of men like him and why systems to correct for the oppression that he wields against his girl classmates are necessary in order to provide more opportunities for women to gain equity with the patriarchy. He should be happy that his school is helping women overcome the biases that they face throughout their lives and make the sacrifice for the sake…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/20 06:28 AM
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The comments are an absolute shitshow, a huge lifting of the curtain showing the racism rooted in white feminism. unless you are a woman you have no idea how it feels to be alone, in a wooded area, and have any man approach you. Yes, she allowed her emotions to get the better of her and acted inappropriately, but he was threatening her: There’s no way around it. At the same time, are black men keenly aware of these tropes, and do they sometimes employ them, intentionally, to intimidate, frighten…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/20 06:25 AM
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If there isn't a fight against post-modernist reinforcement and expansion of anti-male bias, is there another example that that the traditionalist world can look to as an alternative? Anyway, if that's really a concern of yours, why don't you post about it factually instead of complaining it doesn't get enough attention? You live in that environment, a lot of us don't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/20 01:55 AM
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your version of male advocacy is to double down on enforcing gender roles?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/20 05:08 AM
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https://www.healthinsurance.org/faqs/is-it-true-that-obamacares-preventive-care-mandates-only-help-women/ “Free preventive care” has to fall into one of three categories: Rated “A” or “B” in the current United States Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF) recommendations. In general, the recommended preventive health care services for men also fall into the category of preventive health care for adults: Things like alcohol screening, blood pressure and cholesterol screening, colonoscopies, STI …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/20 05:03 AM
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even in the most extreme case of racist discrimination, the white candidate has what would probably be an imperceptible increase in probability Divide 13.8% by zero % and get back to me my country was 99% white for a lot of my life. Well, certainly no imbalance there. So in my example, 99 of the candidates would be white and 1 black. This makes my chance of getting the job 11.71% when complete discrimination was happening, and 11.6% after. But, you acknowledge that as the black population grew a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/20 04:45 AM
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Gender roles Gender roles everywhere
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/20 12:15 AM
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Ngl, when I feel myself start to cry in public, I get upset at myself. The last time in particular, I was doing a hosting gig at a restaurant, I had to chew out some really loud patrons, and the owner was pissed at me, claiming I'd said a bunch of shit I didn't say. I held my ground for a while, pointing out that my job is to make sure the people there for me can participate with what I'm there for, and people not there for me that make that impossible are harming my success. But after her repea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/20 12:14 AM
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white person being treated fairly during the hiring process isn't a privilege Nah. Just nah. Just plain wrong. The fact that the white man is guaranteed a fair treatment while others are not is, yes, a privilege. Just because it's what should happen to everyone has no bearing on whether being more likely to actually get it is not a privilege. Others do not get it. Those who do get it have the privilege of getting it. If stores started adding a "black surcharge" to prices, the fact that white peo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 11:59 PM
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 11:31 PM
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Lol, that doesn't make it good. Have you met humans?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 05:44 AM
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And besides -- I'm not the one imposing meanings; the redefiners are. These words already had definitions before they were arbitrarily redefined in order to push agendas. Now we're being told that the existing definitions are, what, oppressive? Take it up with ol' Noah, not me. Edit: PS: Linguistic relativity is mostly discredited anyway.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 05:20 AM
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It's called language though. If you change the meanings of terms it's not the same language. How do two people communicate effectively if they aren't using a shared language? Seems to me more like the upswing is that the people who seek to redefine the terms are now trying to impose those redefinitions on everyone else. That's no good. And if it's not designed to put people in semantic traps, I don't know what the point is when -- as I said -- there is no shortage of unambiguous, accurate vocabu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 05:17 AM
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Ok but is men earning more money actually a privelege? Well... in a capitalist society.... where money determines QOL, status, and often health... yes? They don't have to earn it any less than women. That's a different issue though. Certainly a lazy guy does not have to earn that much if he doesn't care about things like QOL and status. In fact that bolsters the point that earning more is privilege, if as you say both men and women need money equally (for the sake of argument). If both genders n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 05:14 AM
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In spite of myself :) I think this is spot on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 05:03 AM
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Is it not conceivable that both genders have privileges in different areas?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 05:01 AM
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The term "white privilege" is worded poorly and used in a way that makes people see the it as “white people and are handed better circumstances” when in reality it’s "minorities have bad circumstances disproportionately” Can someone make this sentence logically consistent for me? How is disproportionately bad circumstances not equivalent to worse circumstances and thus the opposite of better circumstances? If for example the white guy has 2 rejections out of 10 applications and the black guy has…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 04:59 AM
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Imagine thinking that arbitrarily changing definitions of terms is a productive method for discourse Communication does not work when definitions are not shared. If I think "potato" means a car and you think "potato" means a vegetable, clarity in communication is not the result. Postmodernism run amok again ... the fact that you've even come up with an obfuscated doublespeak for "consistently defined language" is pretty remarkably obtuse
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 04:52 AM
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See, I'm not following here. You're saying a word can have a meaning separate from what it means. Do we even care what words mean anymore, or do we only care about the effect that using those words has? If I suddenly get a pain in my stomach and I shout "I'VE BEEN SHOT" because it feels like I've been shot, but it's actually just an ulcer that acted up due to the sauce on the spaghetti I just ate, do we track down the chef and charge him with assault with a deadly weapon because of how I felt or…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/20 07:06 PM
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Nobody wants to talk about the women in Alabama whom a majority voted for and supported the woman Governor who signed the anti-abortion law. I don't know how that is glossed over, but I suspect it's with some kind of "the men force the women to vote a certain way" hypothesis. Or maybe the no true Scotsman argument.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/20 07:00 PM
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There seems to be a trend of using words based on their effect rather than their meaning. So, women are a "minority" not because they are not a majority, which is what the word means, they are a "minority" because they don't (theoretically) have superior power, and are thus (again theoretically) denigrated by those with superior power -- which is a common effect of being a minority in most societies while not actually in this case being a literal minority. Similarly "racism" is redefined as "rac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/20 06:59 PM
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You're still conflating "gay man" with "multiple sexual partners" I mean, your argument, as you've stated it repeatedly, is that it's okay for blood centers to deny donations from gay men, because blood centers have to avoid high-risk donations, and having multiple sexual partners is a high risk. This isn't a complicated conclusion to reach, if you're not deliberately obtuse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 10:14 PM
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It's a common trope, if not accurate, that straight men are more upset at being dumped for a woman than for another man. (When it should probably be the other way around really. "It wasn't I wasn't a good man, it's that you turned out not to be into men at all.")
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 10:10 PM
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Same with MGTOW / "grass-fed men" in Japan, who aren't even LGBT.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 10:08 PM
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I dare say it's because they know what sells. There seems to be a strong representation of LGBT among entertainment workers, but that hasn't translated to representation in the entertainment itself. That's either because of puppet masters, or bottom lines.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 10:07 PM
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TBF you even saw it sometimes in Will and Grace, although they seemed to celebrate it in a way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 09:58 PM
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So.. banning men from women's gyms because men are creeps is totally okay then right? It's just practicality to avoid sexual harassment. Men should actually be thankful they're prevented from being sexual predators as a result, right? Hmm
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 09:56 PM
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Your comment was removed, because it made a derogatory statement about a demographic group or individual, based on their race, gender, sexual orientation or identity. If you disagree with this ruling, please appeal by messaging the moderators.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 09:52 PM
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Uh huh. But you're not being denied access on account of you being a horny white guy, and we all know all horny white guys have lots of prostitute sex. Or let's say you denied entry into a country from a list of countries where a lot of the people are members of a certain unliked religion (dunno where I got this one from lol) because that unliked religion is stereotypically associated with terrorism. The reason should be the evidence, not the circumstance. How is this difficult for you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 09:51 PM
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If their argument is that "When we try that with gay people, we end up throwing out lots of batches because even a slightly higher rate of infection has massive repercussions" then that's one thing No, it's not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 09:49 PM
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Equal access to services is a right. Yes, even if it's a donation (e.g. if you rejected donations based on race, that would not be okay). Blood and plasma centers do need to take into account your lifestyle choice, tattoos & piercings, where you've traveled, sexual activity You're defending the blood centers using a stereotype-based presumption to deny access. No. Likewise, you can't deny black people access to a business because "black people cause more crime" or whatever bullshit. That is a no…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 09:47 PM
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Thank you. I hope to be reasonable and productive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/20 08:26 AM
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Your comment was removed, because it made a derogatory statement about a demographic group or individual, based on their race, gender, sexual orientation or identity. If you disagree with this ruling, please appeal by messaging the moderators.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/20 08:16 AM
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I actually can't think of anything particularly leftist that modern China does.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/20 03:06 AM
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I think authoritarianism is anti-left too, so...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/20 06:48 AM
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I've never been a censorist. To me censorism is anti-left. A lot of people disagree with that and it makes me sad. But it's not like the right is anti-censorist either. It's a whole different axis it seems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/20 07:35 PM
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It's a religion. Belief based on faith and in rejection of contrary evidence. Disputing the dogmas of the faith is heresy, and even persecution.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/20 07:33 PM
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If you bring up men's issues at all, ever, you are automatically a misogynist incel MRA. So I've learned.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/20 07:32 PM
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I don't know what's not left wing about that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/20 05:51 PM
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by increasing empathy for men to the same level that society has for women. I mean, I'd even say both. It's really not clear cut at all. IMO trying to balance the see-saw is the wrong idea; instead make things as good as you can on both sides.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/20 05:00 AM
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I mean, context is important. If you're posting "look at this right wing mra crap" maybe, though I'd be wary. If you're posting "what do you think about this position" than that's different. I think the distinction is: do you have an agenda to push that is against this sub's purpose, or are you earnestly starting a discussion?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/20 04:59 AM
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Well we need to set boundaries (which we have done). People who honestly want to learn an alternative shouldn't be an issue. People coming in and being like they are in /r/mr these days, I'm not interested. Then every post is a dumpster fire (and a lot more posts get locked).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 07:52 PM
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Me too. I'll even abide by the new low effort rule, which I'm not fond of.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 07:34 PM
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I don't want right wing people in a left wing sub. They've already basically taken over /r/mr.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 07:32 PM
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"left wing male advocates" it's in the name
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 07:32 PM
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How did the whole new rule get put into effect if there's only one active mod?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 07:31 PM
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Yet another thing that both traditionalism and feminism endorse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/20 09:09 PM
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you hate women /s
/r/MensRights22/05/20 08:14 PM
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Does anyone remember the old "by rejecting me you are raping me" tweet from a few years back?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/20 08:03 PM
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I just can't even anymore. It just pisses me off. Everything is normalized. When the woman that came up with the idea ended up quickly finding her way out of it... and all the men didn't... and people are like nO bUt wOmEn tOo. It's not even the same thing. Not even remotely. (Meanwhile this argument persists despite the fact that they feel the need to make a different frigging word for it when it's women.) I mean ffs why don't the femcels just screw the incels? Problem solved! Is it really just…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/20 07:59 PM
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Yeah, but you were removing content under a rule that wasn't in the rules yet.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/20 06:23 PM
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There's no rule of discourse that says something has to be long-winded to have value. Sometimes short and to the point is just as valid and meaningful as a long drawn out TLDR.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 07:30 PM
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"lOw eFfOrT"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 07:27 PM
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Did this sub become /r/menslib when I wasn't looking? Barf.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 07:27 PM
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By "be instituting" you mean "already instituted before it was actually a thing" :P
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 07:26 PM
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Also, I don't see "high effort only" in the sub rules.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 07:24 PM
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And yet it resonates.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 07:23 PM
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And in this case I'm criticising a specific group of feminists to boot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 10:09 PM
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looks up the definition of egalitarian
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 10:06 PM
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how do men and women fare in egalitarian societies They fare the same.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 05:20 AM
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This is post is literally about a specific group with a specific statement, so I don't know why you're being obtuse to that specific context.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/20 07:00 PM
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"Women have always been the true victims of war." - a 2016 presidential candidate
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/20 06:31 PM
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That was FIFTY FUCKING YEARS AGO bruh. A HALF CENTURY AGO. We're a good two or three waves removed from that. I'm mostly down with first and second wave, fwiw.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/20 06:30 PM
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That's nice. These women feminists aren't, though. Have you heard of context versus generalization?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/20 06:28 PM
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Gender equality implies first and foremost that women and men should have the same human rights and fundamental freedoms. So.. If women have the freedom not to be forced into the military Then Shouldn't men also have that freedom? And if Men don't have that freedom Then Shouldn't women also not have that freedom, as that would be "having the same freedoms?" Or is that not "the law of equality"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/20 05:13 AM
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Well, I think the beef that most women have with it is that men look down on that role and frequently men pressure their women to do better... and that's the nice example -- some are even physically abusive about it. On the other hand, any man in a (het) relationship who ever lost a job or got a pay cut can tell you it ain't exactly roses on the other side of the fence, even with a "woke" SO. I personally have a hard time believing that those old homemaker women really would have preferred to co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 05:37 PM
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women were literally not allowed to take part in certain professions yet plenty of women did, and and neither were the men allowed not to work. Except in the sense that they likely died if they didn't. Which hasn't significantly changed, either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 01:52 AM
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You'll notice in more pioneering situations women did plenty of work for the same reasons. The people who got out of it weren't the men or the women, it was the elites.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 01:51 AM
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this shit right here
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 01:50 AM
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What am I allowed to do to approach women, and when I do that, will they think me too forward or on the other hand too hesitant And the answer is "we don't have to tell you." Imagine it goes like this: "You cannot do this, this, this, or this." "Okay, what can I do?" "That we will not tell you, That is for you to discover on your own, if you are worthy. We will only tell you that you cannot do these things."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 11:34 PM
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What do you mean, a sexual harassment hearing where the woman is the accused? Next you'll be asking about cops who are tried and convicted for shooting unarmed black men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/20 06:30 AM
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I know way too many libs that are flipping their fucking shit about this pisses me off
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/20 06:28 AM
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yes Got defriended for trying to argue against shaming troubled young men, with the retort "I thought you were progressive." I don't understand how equal treatment of people is not progressive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/20 11:57 PM
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Women have always been the primary victims of coronavirus, they lose their fathers, sons, husbands... /s (if you get it you get it) (BTW isn't that saying you're dependent on men? I'm not getting it)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/20 10:33 PM
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The first rule of feminism is "it's not their problem."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/20 01:27 AM
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It sounds like you're saying, don't make progressive MRM better, but give up on progressivism when it comes to MRM.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/20 05:41 PM
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I mean, it could be that the male suffering is a result of an imbalance in male dominance in civilizational accomplishment. The question for me is -- is it like that because men demand they be the only ones to make the accomplishments, or is it like that because women don't want to / don't see the need for those accomplishments? (And that's before even getting into whether some of those accomplishments were really something to be proud about.)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/20 05:40 PM
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Also https://www.removeddit.com/r/ContraPoints/comments/g89d3n/i_dont_believewomen/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 09:35 PM
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call them simps, pussys How about nah.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 11:41 PM
21

How can she slap?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 11:41 PM
4

Men are supposed to man up and be a man and suck it up
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/20 05:32 PM
4

TBF I think this heavily depends on the specific STEM job. Like, there's a lot of women PMs and SQAs in software, but not as many devs, not even SDETs. But all would be considered STEM jobs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/20 03:23 AM
1

Wait, when the fuck, did I say any of that? What the fuck is wrong with people here, you hear things that aren't being said. Are you just chock full of knee-jerk reactionism that you have lost the ability to read a fucking sentence? Jesus H fucking christ, get outside sometime, wear a mask and breathe the fresh air outside the bubble.
/r/MensRights21/04/20 06:17 AM
1

Nobody said anything of the sort, you're just a psychopath.
/r/MensRights21/04/20 06:15 AM
0

But since you asked... Yes, yes I do.
/r/MensRights20/04/20 10:47 PM
-1

Learn to logic my friend. You've heard of evil male leaders, yes? Stalin? Pol Pot? Mr. Hilter? Fun fact, both evil people and good people can be either male or female.
/r/MensRights20/04/20 10:41 PM
-3

Affirming the consequent, try again
/r/MensRights20/04/20 08:46 PM
-12

Or perhaps countries that are run by reason and science are more likely to think that women can be effective leaders just as men. Edit: True colors come out in here too easily Edit2: Motherfuckers are so blindingly insane in here that they cannot read a fucking sentence. Not my problem.
/r/MensRights20/04/20 08:27 PM
1

'Whoops, my pussy ended up on your dick again, damn how does that keep happening'
/r/MensRights17/04/20 09:15 PM
3

Too late
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/20 08:10 PM
1

Welcome to this sub. Up in here all the stereotypes come true.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 07:52 AM
2

Properly done progressivism / leftism includes a rejection of identity politics. They're divisive distractions from the underlying core problem in society. Some of you might be surprised to know that there's actually left wing egalitarianism. Of course this here is usually not a good sub for it.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 07:50 AM
6

No one has ever been able to explain if women are serious about committing suicide why they choose shitty methods to do it. Some will argue it's because women are conditioned to think about other people when they commit acts so they choose "clean" ways to commit suicide so it won't be a burden for others. But I think it's because women will get sympathy and attention for their attempt, so some people use it as a way to get that attention, and those people might not even be truly suicidal. A man …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/20 04:32 AM
1

I never thought I'd have to go to removeddit for a comment in this sub.
/r/MensRights15/04/20 03:22 AM
1

Mm, seems to me the point of metoo is to encourage people to take that agency back by speaking instead of hiding it. It depends on who you're talking about that's using the phrase. I mean, you could say the same thing about people using the phrase "egalitarian" or "male liberation", there's certainly piss poor examples of both.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 10:07 AM
111

"We want equality" "Okay, you can go to jail for crimes and take dangerous jobs and pay child support and alimony" "No not like that"
/r/MensRights09/04/20 07:03 PM
5

I'm reminded of Brexiteers post-Brexit being pissed off about European customs and immigration lines and angry that Europe isn't bailing them out
/r/MensRights09/04/20 07:02 PM
8

Like all idpol, anything that distracts from a group's own primary attention is anathema.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/20 05:18 AM
5

"It doesn't exist because it doesn't happen as much"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 06:21 PM
5

It's a religion. Those who do not speak the One Truth are heretics and liars. Shun them, for they do not follow the Path. Meetu, meetu.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/20 05:23 PM
3

how about neither?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/20 11:26 PM
1

HOW CAN SHE SL... BREAK NOSE?
/r/MensRights23/03/20 07:59 PM
3

...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/20 09:49 PM
2

I think one thing that is telling is making assertions about women, or "most women," or any of that. Women, like men, are different. Some women may have a hard time climaxing. Others don't. Some women might not put climaxing as a mandatory requirement for enjoying sex. Like men, it depends on how you view sex and what you get out of it, as well as those particular personal physiological factors.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/20 06:42 PM
17

Wow, what a psycho hose beast. Men, find a woman who will allow you the freedom to vote your conscience.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/20 08:55 PM
2

I'd have to go through my old comments on his videos, I don't remember specifically, but they were fairly easy ones to get right if he'd done any proper research.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/20 09:01 AM
2

I'm sure it's really because husbands hate wives who raise unmanly sons, or some shit
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/20 06:17 PM
13

I stopped watching Knowing Better a year ago because he gets many many things just plain wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/20 09:53 PM
1

Well no, she was also crazy. I'm not sure why one precludes the other.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/20 06:15 PM
1

I think it's pretty hard to characterize the book as being entirely serious and not be pretty disingenuous, too. The fact that Solanas ran in the sort of absurdist art circles a la Warhol is certainly more evidence in the "not serious" column than anything Hitler ever did.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/20 01:25 AM
2

Well I mean there's always Solanas but I don't think she's really that indicative of the social effects.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/20 10:50 PM
14

Man, the comment thread from ro8e is a blast. First comment is These guys were just assholes and used feminist lingo to provoke and undermine what had happened to your friend Then when OP clarifies, they're all After reading it, I ... am on the guy's side of the argument regarding privilege and intersectionality They started automatically from an assumption that the man MUST be defending toxicity (because that's what MEN DO). And only until they had to be told by a woman that the man wasn't defe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/20 01:48 AM
5

It's nice to have those surprising moments when it's like "you know, maybe people of all genders are fucked, and it's not the gender but just those people" and everyone is all kum ba yah for a little bit -- I don't even mean that sarcastically.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/20 01:44 AM
4

Ya know, it is totally fuckin possible to be a feminist and not be prejudiced against men. It was done for decades until the 2000s came along. Somehow suddenly it became imfuckingpossible. Second wavers and even most third wavers don't hate men the way fourth wavers do. They hate certain men but they don't stereotype the entire fucking gender. Edit : Valid points of some of the professional philosophers of second wave. The women themselves that took advantage of the gains of the second wave thou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/20 01:43 AM
3

Still only men doing the abusing here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/20 07:36 AM
8

Perspective is key. I don't dispute that there are real challenges uniquely facing women. But what I also don't dispute that there are real challenges facing men. (This seems to be equated with disputing the former way too often for my taste.) You hit a nail on the head here for me, and that is the disturbing similarities between the tactics of certain feminist sentiments and many conservative groups. That being said, much like feminism, there are certainly maleists (?) who are just as full of s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/20 07:34 PM
6

It means locked and it comes from /r/yallcantbehave which is a sub about mods locking threads because they don't like the comments being made in them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/20 12:49 AM
2

"Men should be helping women. Women should be helping men. We're all in this together." -- My candidate, 2016
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 09:30 PM
1

two sides of a same bad coin
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 09:17 PM
2

Come on the homeless men have privilege
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 09:16 PM
7

/r/agedlikemilk now that the comment thread is locked.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 09:14 PM
1

I ain't even mad tho
/r/MensRights10/02/20 08:19 PM
5

From what I'm reading it's at least not her that was directly affected, it's not clear though implied heavily that it was probably rape/sexual assault, but not towards her but a friend/classmate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 08:04 PM
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She basically honeypots men and of course they all fall for it. What makes it worse is how narrative-affirming all of those encounters are. This is why I am likening it to Left Behind. "See? The world's going to end, this fictional novel/movie proves it!" "See? Yes All Men, this fictional movie proves it!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 08:01 PM
2

A couple of the guys she pots use the "I'm a nice guy" trope which is so flagrantly a misand wet dream
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 07:57 PM
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If you ask me, it looks like it's full of anti-male claptrap... Basically Left Behind for the misand set.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/20 09:07 PM
2

Religious groups get a pass, natch :P
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/20 10:02 PM
7

That would make sense if the issue was only for industry spaces. But male-only groups remain largely antipathetic. Meanwhile women-only groups and even women-only businesses (e.g. gyms) exist and are encouraged. My college had a women's only dorm, it didn't have any men's only dorms. I was never entirely thrilled about that omission. Men's clubs were definitely once a thing. I'm not aware of any that commonly exist today, and if they did they would be pressured to either open to women, or cease …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/20 09:39 PM
3

But doesn't the same occur in womens' only spaces?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/20 09:36 PM
3

That's probably because it hasn't been denormalized in their culture as it has ours. For better or for worse, much of Asian cultures retain traditionalist gender role norms. In addition, depending on the flavor, some sects of Islam still maintain certain gender-separation practices.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/20 09:36 PM
1

Equality belongs on the left.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/20 08:20 PM
2

Like this is the first such case of this ever....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/20 07:55 PM
6

It's not "totally normal male behavior." It's totally normal human behavior. Band members date all the fucking time. So do political workers and anyone who is in any group that travels and spends a lot of time together. News reporters definitely date all the time. (I was once told by a reporter at a Boston newspaper that there are two kinds of papers: drinking papers, and fucking papers. "We're the drinking paper," she clarified -- and then went on to tell about multiple instances of people scre…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/20 07:54 PM
6

Dis some fuckin gaslighting 101
/r/MensRights02/02/20 10:27 PM
1

I can't say as I do, but I don't presume to have comprehensive data on it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/20 12:05 AM
1

I don't think he said that it didn't also happen the other way around in other fields. We're specifically talking about STEM here. I would take you point as saying, you know what, yeah maybe girls are intimidated in male dominated fields, but guess what, men are also intimidated in woman dominated fields.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 11:29 PM
1

TBF and I'm not saying it's necessarily true, but it's also possible that they feel like they have to pretend to be okay with it or else they'll be called a bitch. Kind of like I have to be in many social situations when gender comes up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 11:28 PM
-1

'my experience is different than that therefore it is not true for anyone else, also fuck you'
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 11:28 PM
3

Stereotype means you assume someone is a certain way based on an otherwise unrelated attribute that you've made false generalized connections on. Like black people are violent or criminal, or better at basketball, white people are rich, or racist, Indian people are great at math and engineering, blonde women are airheads, women suck at sports, guys who own a certain style of hat are misogynists, etc. Fitting a stereotype is what OC is referring to but that's not what a stereotype is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 11:25 PM
2

By definition that's not what a stereotype is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 11:23 PM
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As someone who would fit the profile of the socially awkward and underdeveloped geeky guy, I have a real, real hard time with this take. It's promoting a prejudice that we've faced pretty much our whole young lives. And it only breeds more contempt. You don't end incelism by knee-jerk shutting guys out of society when they first buy a certain type of hat or when they first make a comment about how they are jealous of girls' social advantages or they disagree with something you read on Jezebel. T…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 11:22 PM
1

I really do think it's a comfort and intimidation level. Now, I don't think that intimidation is entirely deliberate or intentional. I guess I don't care as long as it's not eliminating opportunities. If I found out the best profs were teaching the all-women class and the shit profs were teaching the co-ed (i.e. predominantly men) class, I'd be less than thrilled.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 11:18 PM
3

I can recall the proportion of women going down after the weedout period in CS program. It wasn't that more women were weeded out than men, but the result was that the proportion of women in the program went down afterwards. On the other hand, the valedictorian of my CS program in my year, with a 4.0, was a woman, so there's that. As was one of the assistant deans and a number of the profs. In fact my favorite prof in that program is a woman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 11:16 PM
4

Yes well..... it's a bootcamp.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 11:12 PM
0

Supposedly men in a class leads to the prof favoring the men and the men get better grades and stuff. Plus the men lead to an uncomfortable environment for the women because they talk about men stuff. (There's probably plenty of cases of men talking down to or badly about women in such environments tbf. But it's an apple and bunch question imo.)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/20 11:11 PM
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After skimming the article, nah, that's just a bunch of equivocating to paint men as bad people. When a man likes a woman but she doesn't reciprocate he should just stfu and back off. But when a woman likes a man and he doesn't reciprocate he's an asshole. When men don't call out other men for being toxic they're part of the problem. When women don't call out other women for being toxic it's "not their responsibility" or even justified. Expecting women to smile is sexist. Expecting men to be tal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/20 09:21 PM
8

The first time I heard the phrase "friend zone" was from a female friend in college who was describing how she perceives guys. She literally said "some guys are just in the zone" of not being a dating interest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/20 09:12 PM
5

They want to get laid and think being kissasses is the way to do it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/20 08:31 AM
2

She's made some encouraging side comments.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/20 07:14 AM
18

But do women really need men to save them from themselves? That's sexist! /s
/r/MensRights27/01/20 06:39 PM
6

If he had done nothing it would have been toxic masculinity killing women
/r/MensRights27/01/20 06:38 PM
3

Honestly I don't think so. I think that expectations and desires are two different things. If being a man makes you more likely to, whatever, lift weights, then you lift weights. The issue is whether society expects you to lift weights because you're a man. Not whether you are more inclined to want to lift weights. This goes for everyone, both genders. If women want to be SAHMs, they can be SAHMs. But they don't have to be and shouldn't be pressured into being. If men want to be SAHDs, they can …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/20 07:46 PM
7

I like how that guy's entire post history is of Playboy photos
/r/MensRights18/01/20 10:10 PM
12

unknown reasons The reason is /r/menslib is trash.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/20 12:51 AM
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/r/menslib is trash, it's male feminists who swallow all versions of feminism without question and then couch everything in that narrative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/20 05:47 AM
9

smh. Just smh. Men are intimidated by successful women because the women make them feel inferior for not being more successful than them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/20 02:12 AM
1

I would say they don't think transwomen count as real women because they started life as men and therefore don't know what "real" women have to "deal with."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/20 02:05 AM
1

Same old
/r/MensRights02/01/20 07:20 PM
5

Well, I agree with you, and what I'm trying to convey is a tough thing to identify given all the equivocating that goes on. There are (straight) men who have decided not to bother with pursuing (at least long term) relationships with women because they've decided it's not worth the negatives. That's what I mean by MGTOW. At core definition it doesn't necessarily mean active and explicit misogyny.
/r/MensRights28/12/19 10:57 PM
1

The irony there is that if men are tolerating the excessive anti-male segments of feminism, it's only because they think by doing so they will get some. And this is encouraged with the vitriol against MGTOWs and others who resist that foolishness. I mean if you're dependent on that sort of relationship, it's not acceptance, it's coercion.
/r/MensRights28/12/19 09:56 PM
1

The women blame the "grass eating men" which is their pejorative for MGTOWs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/19 10:52 PM
2

I dunno, mom has to have some really good balance here
/r/MensRights26/12/19 05:10 AM
3

Well, yes, that's the shitty side of male advocacy, and why I always had a hard time in /r/mensrights. Quite a lot of people actually just sexist right wing fuckheads. And they dominate and get the attention. There were people more LWMA and egalitarian in there too, but too often the shitty people dominate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/19 06:59 PM
8

Feminism: Women can do anything men can do Also Feminism: Women can't do what men can do
/r/MensRights22/12/19 07:37 AM
3

I can't get past the shameful hyperbolic demonizing misrepresentation of MGTOW in the second and third paragraphs. Apparently merely avoiding relationships on purpose is equivalent to actively conspiring to destroy all women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/19 08:38 PM
4

I hope her husband sees that.
/r/MensRights16/12/19 10:40 AM
4

Well let's just take one of my "favorite" examples. We heard a few years back about Boko Haram and how they had captured and enslaved thousands of young girls from villages and we needed to stop them. What nobody ever mentioned was that the *boys* in those villages weren't enslaved -- they were *killed* outright. (Or drugged and turned into psycho killers as is very common.) (But that's not as bad as what happened to the girls, I guess...)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/19 02:04 AM
3

Intimacy to some people means "listen to her" but not "tell her what's on your mind"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/19 07:32 PM
1

How are crosslinks bait if they are relevant to the sub topic?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/19 11:54 PM
10

I hope this is satire, because if not, there's a guy that needs some self esteem and get rid of someone in his life who thinks he is trash.
/r/MensRights13/11/19 09:00 PM
6

It's nice that somebody decided to research reasons why MGM is a good idea, but never has any such research been done with FGM because it's simply bad evil and wrong.
/r/MensRights13/11/19 08:46 PM
2

Yeah but the more the better. Progress.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/19 07:58 PM
2

I think that's kind of the point here. Weaponizing a term and using it indiscriminately is unhelpful and counterproductive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/19 08:22 AM
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I won’t stand for being marginalized or targeted because of my gender. I will not tolerate a double standard when I see it. Men shouldn’t either. Being a woman does not give us the right to unfairly treat men because of their gender. It makes us no better than what we fight against. Disagreeing with someone and defending your own stance is not mansplaining. It’s explaining. Period. What I want is someone to careful select their words in order to ensure their intent is in line with my perception.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/19 12:51 AM
5

For some reason, it's common for men do things for results, and it's common for women do things for a reaction. It doesn't make sense to me but it seems to be a trend. If a man tries to kill himself, the goal is to die. If a woman tries to kill herself, the goal is for people to help her. Is it because men are less likely to have people around who will help them? I don't really know. I've been told that another part of the math is that men are more likely to use more effective suicide methods (l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/19 09:04 PM
3

negative gender pay gap Let me reiterate negative gender pay gap That's kind of like "reverse racism" isn't it?
/r/MensRights01/11/19 10:30 PM
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/r/ohgoodcanwepostthisagainplease
/r/MensRights17/10/19 11:41 PM
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https://www.removeddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/dge4ru/cardi_b_says_she_still_backs_sanders_for/?user_id=6328533 is pretty telling.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/19 05:12 PM
2

I think you're splitting some pretty short hairs to argue that the only recognition Franklin didn't get for her effort was her name on the Nobel Prize. Besides, what you say is disingenuous, according to the Nobel Prize page itself: From 1974, the Statutes of the Nobel Foundation stipulate that a Prize cannot be awarded posthumously, unless death has occurred after the announcement of the Nobel Prize. Before 1974, the Nobel Prize has only been awarded posthumously twice: to Dag Hammarskjöld (Nob…
/r/MensRights09/10/19 10:44 PM
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The former. I dunno what's difficult about the context here.
/r/MensRights09/10/19 04:24 AM
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Take almost any field and men are the ones who pioneered it ages ago. I mean, there's reasons for that fact too. We don't even have to go back that far. Let's talk about Watson and Crick, for example.
/r/MensRights08/10/19 10:46 PM
2

women you
/r/MensRights06/10/19 06:35 PM
2

The concept of toxic masculinity is used in psychology and media discussions of masculinity to refer to certain cultural norms that are associated with harm to society and to men themselves. Traditional stereotypes of men as socially dominant, along with related traits such as misogyny and homophobia, can be considered "toxic" due in part to their promotion of violence, including sexual assault and domestic violence. The socialization of boys often normalizes violence, such as in the saying "boy…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/19 09:16 PM
2

Tbf toxic masculinity includes self destructive behaviors. The biggest problem with the toxic masculinity argument is that it is always presented as something that is broken in men and that men must fix. It's never presented as a societally enforced gender expectation or a something men should be given help with.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/19 07:49 PM
1

I think the upswing of something like that would be to normalize sexism, from not holding a door all the way to forcible rape, as functionally equivalent.
/r/MensRights26/09/19 08:44 PM
2

And people wonder why boys learn toxic masculinity when eight year olds are being told to be responsible for protecting girls.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 07:17 PM
4

3/4 of homeless are men and the dominant narrative about that is that "they're a bunch of toxic masculine sexists"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/19 07:17 AM
1

men are much more disagreeable and disagreeable people are paid more Certainly not been my experience It is well established in psychology There's nothing in there that says disagreeable people earn more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/19 10:43 PM
1

cause men to earn less than women Well that's not what I was going for at all. men are much more disagreeable and disagreeable people are paid more Certainly not been my experience. interested much more in things Well, that's not really something we can hash out in the scope of this thread. I don't think it's nearly as true as you think. A lot of that also is impacted by the gender biases taught to both genders at a young age. You're supposed to like trucks, you're supposed to like princesses. G…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/19 09:32 PM
1

Men pay more in taxes on average because on average men have larger incomes. Balancing the breadwinner burden should have similar effect on the incomes and thus the tax burden. It's not like there's an explicit man tax in the tax code.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/19 05:33 AM
3

The only failure of women's empowerment in the career space is that it didn't get offset by a reduction of male breadwinners. It made two income households the new normal, which now means if you're not a two income household, you're going to struggle more. This negatively affects both men and women IMO. I dunno if it was because women didn't want to be breadwinners, or still wanted their men to work, or didn't like the idea of househusbands because they didn't have the same standards, or men not…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/19 06:05 PM
2

A stronger social safety net and social programs would help get homeless, which are 75% men, off the streets. It would also reduce the burden on men to serve as breadwinners, by promoting more female breadwinners and reducing the risk of unemployment on family status. (another win-win) Increased access to birth control and abortion would reduce unwanted fatherhood (as well as motherhood). Stronger domestic violence programs would a) help men suffering from DV but also b) reduce the number of ser…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/19 06:02 PM
0

Do you know how to explain anything without resorting to insults?
/r/MensRights06/09/19 11:49 PM
10

I do think that the emphasis on 4chan as a pool of hate and destruction is misguided. When you don't have a valve for pressure, things blow up. 4chan is/was that valve for many people. A place where the id can play, where offensive jokes aren't going to get you fired or hated, where you discover that the dark thoughts in your head don't make you a freak. A place where bad taste can thrive; like a public access channel or a bathroom wall or backstage at a punk venue. Going through an adolescent n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/19 10:27 PM
10

the left should regard Anon/the deplorables as a failure on its part, a terrific mangling of the left’s own arguments that has resulted in alienating the very group of people who could be the most helped by their ideas, if not the most convinced. Been saying this for years. Guys who ended up becoming incels could easily have been allies, if the dominant narrative hadn't been to vilify, fault, scapegoat, and hate them, and ultimately discard them. You don't get people to follow you by telling the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/19 10:16 PM
0

Well which is it? Immigrants or automation? Make up your mind. I mean are you saying having more open immigration will help women or something? Is automation a liberal plot in your mind or something? Like automation is some kind of flip-the-script eat the rich plan? Like somehow, somewhere, George Soros is secretly funding a massive robot empire, with the labor unions getting a cut?
/r/MensRights06/09/19 09:21 PM
2

Pretty sure the point is that you can't choose your gender, it just is what it is, it just doesn't simply depend on plumbing. If they do think that men can want to be women, that would seem to dent the perception that being a man is easier than being a woman -- why wouldn't a woman prefer to be a man if they had the chance? I have to imagine there are trans men out there who don't find it easy either, further denting the perception.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/19 09:18 PM
0

I don't know if you know this, but there are men immigrants. So in terms of "consequences on men" it doesn't wash. You don't mean men, you mean certain men, with other qualities like yourself. Incidentally those immigrants also tend to have much more traditional values about gender roles, so you should be thrilled frankly. I mean you'd really rather have those socialist Europeans coming in and taking over the country?
/r/MensRights06/09/19 04:41 PM
0

You said "socioeconomic" Socioeconomic doesn't mean "social or economic," but a combination of the two. The goals of such a policy as you describe aren't economic but purely social. economic upending that automation is predicated to bring connect the dots and see how it's related to immigration How does that have anything to do with mens rights?
/r/MensRights06/09/19 04:29 AM
-1

kicking men out of jobs and education to replace them with female affirmative action hires is not an economic policy suicidal immigration policies Not a men's rights issue, unless you think there aren't any male immigrants.
/r/MensRights05/09/19 07:40 AM
1

You've still not answered the effect of the increased sales that would come from people having $1000/mo they didn't have before. Are more sales not good for a business?
/r/MensRights05/09/19 07:36 AM
1

military spending is not about about "killing of foreign people", in reality the military themselves has tried to cut mutiple programs over the years and congress has refused. But that's still the point. Why aren't fiscally-skeptic people who rail against things like paying to keep Americans healthy don't express any problem with excessive military spending? military spending at its core is not about the military at all but about Jobs, and local spending. Just try to close a military base, You c…
/r/MensRights05/09/19 07:32 AM
1

How does UBI compare to increased minimum wage in your opinion? The general anti-MW argument is that if you increase income, you will increase prices and/or reduce employment, rendering any benefit from it net zero. Wouldn't UBI suffer from the same problem? Even more so? If everyone has $1,000 a month, then, the argument would go, rents and other prices will start increasing to account for that new income standard. Even as a Keynesian I can see the issue here -- in the absence of downward marke…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/19 06:33 PM
1

Where has this sub been all my Reddit life?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/19 06:30 PM
-1

I did acknowledge that, but that wasn't the point. You can dislike identity politics without disliking the economic and other policies. "Progressives hate men so therefore I'm going to hate Mexicans and buy lots of guns and roll coal on Priuses" is kind of just silly. As a matter of fact if you go further to the left on the spectrum from mainstream liberalism, you'll find a mindset that believes that those identity politics are a distraction from the actually important socioeconomic issues.
/r/MensRights04/09/19 06:23 PM
0

That's treating the individual proposal in a vacuum, without considering the effects of other proposals in the progressive platform. Like, say, drug expanding rehabilitation services, holding pharmaceutical companies accountable for aggressive marketing of opioids and negligence in distribution accounting, etc. Also, like most conservative economic assessments, it denies (or cherry-picks) any side effects of market pressure and works in all-or-nothing terms. Will adding a VAT in the price put do…
/r/MensRights04/09/19 06:17 PM
0

The question then is not the UBI but the funding of it. There's plenty of government expenditures that people don't bother or care to ask how it is funded -- the military is the elephant in the room there -- usually under the presumption that it is so important and necessary that it doesn't matter where the money comes from. And as a result those expenditures are commonly massive. Leaving little for anything else which prompts the ironic "where is the money going to come from?" opposition. If we…
/r/MensRights04/09/19 06:02 PM
9

obviously not over 30
/r/MensRights03/09/19 10:00 PM
1

You mean they don't already?
/r/MensRights03/09/19 09:59 PM
1

Poe?
/r/MensRights03/09/19 09:59 PM
3

Now I'm curious. What site is this sub censoring?
/r/MensRights03/09/19 09:58 PM
5

What's the difference?
/r/MensRights03/09/19 09:58 PM
5

Your position is basically that it just won't work in the US because... why, Americans are less moral than Europeans? If so why is that? (Could it be because we are inured to the existing screw-or-be-screwed situation we currently have?)
/r/MensRights03/09/19 09:57 PM
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It's telling how much progressive policies like a social safety net would be beneficial to the problems of traditional male roles and then you see how many people in subs like this are raging conservatives politically. I get that popular liberalism, particularly identity politics, is commonly tone deaf to male issues, but that doesn't make its overarching socioeconomic policies unbeneficial.
/r/MensRights03/09/19 09:55 PM
1

You should have opened with that
/r/FeminismStopsWhen24/08/19 11:26 PM
1

That means you're a woman, not a man
/r/FeminismStopsWhen24/08/19 11:07 PM
1

I'll wait until you learn what self identifying means
/r/FeminismStopsWhen24/08/19 10:02 PM
0

Thanks, now we know you like to look at other guys' dicks in the restroom. Most of us don't look. You do you, babe.
/r/FeminismStopsWhen24/08/19 08:30 PM
1

Apparently pro-transgenderism is feminism. Accommodating people who want to live their lives as they see fit is apparently like bad.
/r/FeminismStopsWhen24/08/19 08:28 PM
1

straight men merely need to self identify as female smh Apparently is not possible to criticize feminists without throwing shade at literally everything else that doesn't fit an alt right conformist viewpoint
/r/FeminismStopsWhen24/08/19 08:27 PM
-2

Six months ago this sub wouldn't bring up race. But lately everything's not just about gender issues, but now race issues and then some as well. Somebody must have fallen asleep at the switch here. > About to just start lying and say I'm native American or Mexican If this is about a gender thing, then why not say you're a woman instead? Did this become /r/WhiteMensRights when I wasn't looking?
/r/MensRights22/08/19 05:09 AM
-2

Do babies get forced onto planes in order to be circumcised now, or has this sub just finally become what everyone said it was?
/r/MensRights21/08/19 06:05 AM
2

https://www.menards.com/main/home.html
/r/FeminismStopsWhen19/08/19 06:20 PM
6

Literally a woman pushing toxic masculinity onto her son.
/r/MensRights18/08/19 09:33 PM
1

not feminism
/r/FeminismStopsWhen16/08/19 08:39 PM
2

At least those fighting kicking boys aren't hysterical pussies, amirite? :P
/r/MensRights10/08/19 07:02 PM
0

Yes, let's enforce gender norms, that's exactly what this place is all about
/r/MensRights10/08/19 06:29 PM
-2

TIL you can't be white male and gay. There used to be some semblance of decency around here, you know. Please rename sub to /r/whitemalestraightpride
/r/MensRights09/08/19 10:06 PM
1

Should women stop watching mens sports, then?
/r/MensRights01/08/19 06:05 PM
1

By the "paid based on what you make the company" logic, Uber drivers should be paying customers to ride with them.
/r/MensRights01/08/19 04:37 PM
2

It's a serious question. If gender imbalance in pay can be explained away by "economics," then that means economics inherently causes the imbalance. Or else there's something else, and "it's economics" is kind of like "it's part of God's plan." Not really an explanation, just a rhetorical bottomless pit.
/r/MensRights31/07/19 04:05 AM
1

Yeah I know. Yet "here's what Mens FIFA makes, here's the percent that FIFA gives to mens teams in prizes; here's what Womens FIFA makes, here's the percent of that FIFA gives to womens teams in prizes" is the leading "argument" from the wags who are using this as an excuse to say everything's fine as it is. But as you said, salary is local -- so why isn't local revenue (and potential, missed revenue) being used as the yardstick?
/r/MensRights31/07/19 04:03 AM
-1

Don't know what to tell you. That US-England game was insane.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 05:02 PM
1

The other question no one wants to ask is: why is a losing mens team bringing in more revenue than a winning womens team? "Oh, that's just economics." Sure...
/r/MensRights30/07/19 04:58 PM
1

USWNT had almost 70% the viewership as USMNT in world cup years. But the USWNT compensation is not even close to 70% the USMNT.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 04:56 PM
3

It's literally called the US Mens National Team.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 04:55 PM
2

They exclude all data that doesn't fit their narrative and focus only on cherry picked points that support their narrative. Sound familiar? They have met the enemy and it is them.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 04:54 PM
1

Why do we keep basing US salaries on what the entire world pays? If that's really the standard you want to go on, you're really gonna be sad when you see what other countries pay for jobs like software developers.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 04:52 PM
0

You mean winning a world championship versus not?
/r/MensRights30/07/19 04:48 PM
3

So economics is gender discriminatory?
/r/MensRights30/07/19 04:48 PM
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The USWNT has gotten a lot more attention than the USMNT has ever done. Probably because the USWNT wins championships.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 04:45 PM
-2

a scrimmage game This is like saying the Raiders suck because they didn't win a preseason game.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 04:43 PM
-1

You must not have watched a single USWNT WWC game.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 04:42 PM
1

Isn't that what they are doing?
/r/MensRights30/07/19 04:42 PM
2

By league you mean "among all countries participating"
/r/MensRights30/07/19 04:41 PM
-1

Going off the ABC interview... after the bowling alley part... "...The breakdown in communication..." Norah says the monks were hostile to her feminine side. She says she was ostracized because of the monks' assumptions of her sexual orientation.
/r/MensRights27/07/19 06:51 PM
0

Because you can't be effeminate / wimpy but also be straight. Okay. That's real supportive.
/r/MensRights27/07/19 06:24 PM
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She does remark that the way she is treated by women as a man is pretty shocking. She's not fond of the way the other men treated her as a man, either. I have her book -- it's called "Self-Made Man" -- and I really need to read it.
/r/MensRights26/07/19 07:06 PM
2

His shirt has epaulets. I think he was the pilot/co-pilot but in any case definitely uniformed crew. Air marshals are supposed to be undercover.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 09:56 PM
1

You know... when Bill Cosby was convicted, in a court of law, I stopped suggesting that it might not be true, it's all hearsay, we don't know, etc. But we have a justice system and for better or worse it did what it does, and even though it has serious issues and isn't always right, it's considerably better than the court of mass hys public opinion. (And it isn't really over until the appeals court sings; but for now, it's what it is.) If people want to believe in unicorns and demons regardless …
/r/MensRights23/07/19 09:12 PM
2

She kept going on about him looking at other women
/r/MensRights23/07/19 07:46 AM
3

Whatever happened to air marshals hmm
/r/MensRights23/07/19 07:45 AM
1

Also, the song is from a movie called Gentlemen Prefer Blondes
/r/MensRights22/07/19 06:38 PM
1

The 2/3 was based on your numbers, not mine. If you want to now take them back, that's not on me.
/r/MensRights15/07/19 06:01 PM
1

I gave you context, I gave sources, I gave links, I dunno what else you need. The context is how is it acceptable that someone pulling in 2/3 as much attention should get 2/5 the pay?
/r/MensRights13/07/19 06:27 PM
1

But people watch. 52 million people watched in this country.
/r/MensRights13/07/19 06:26 PM
1

Wait what? You're saying the sport is not popular so the women who play the sport should be paid 40% of the men who play the sport? I'm basing the pay of a team based on the performance of a team, and people keep bringing up the sport, so I dunno what you're on.
/r/MensRights13/07/19 06:26 PM
1

Where does 1/4 come into play It was a mistake. I said so. I provided a source with more correct numbers than my 1/4 which was wrong. Repeat, my 1/4 was wrong. Your 2/5 women vs men has zero context to it I'm sorry, I didn't know I had to do math for you, but the story I linked and quoted said "the women’s team would earn 38% of what the men earn." Now, 38% is very close to 4/10 which if we remember fractions from fourth grade, that reduces to 2/5. Women don't care about sports as much as men. T…
/r/MensRights13/07/19 08:35 AM
1

I'm not sure what you are getting at with the 2/3 thing. Where did I even say 52/76 was 1/4? So my 1/4 was flawed, but the math as done in the USWNT's pay gap argument is that if both teams played and won 20 "friendly" matches in a year, the women would earn a maximum of $99,000 and the men would earn an average of $263,320, according to the suit. In this scenario, players on the women’s team would earn 38% of what the men earn. So the payout of games won is (generously) about 2/5 for women vers…
/r/MensRights13/07/19 06:01 AM
0

Men's soccer is more popular than women's soccer yes but why quality And how is a team that doesn't make the finals, not even the semifinals (for nearly 90 years) higher quality than a team that wins the whole thing four out of eight? It's not even like hockey, where the women's game is considerably more tame.
/r/MensRights13/07/19 05:41 AM
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TBF they permaban anyone who doesn't swallow their narrative 100%. At very least, this sub doesn't that, at least not yet...
/r/MensRights12/07/19 10:04 PM
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Because they play a less valuable sport that has significantly less interest. Okay, but why is it less valuable, and why is there less interest? And that statement is only true worldwide -- not within the US. Comparing the 2019 WWC to the 2018 WC isn't very good Well, that's the numbers everyone is using to retort the pay gap argument. the US men team drew 76 million views [across four games], while the women drew 52 million viewers across seven games in 2015. I'm not sure how the number of game…
/r/MensRights12/07/19 06:05 PM
1

Then what are the apples? The dominant narrative here has been "well, men's world cup makes more money worldwide so that's why US women players are paid less." If anything, that's underaggregation. No country's men's team is paid based on the worldwide FIFA revenue, so it's completely an irrelevant data point.
/r/MensRights12/07/19 05:53 PM
1

That's just kicking the can down the road. "It's not gender bias, it's just The Market (pbui)." The Market (pbui) works in mysterious ways... No, that's just Invisible Hand bullshit and it just passes the buck. You may as well say it's "God's Plan." Why is the market biased on gender?
/r/MensRights12/07/19 05:49 PM
1

That still argues that the US team should be paid based on the global popularity instead of the US popularity. Or on, say, winning.
/r/MensRights12/07/19 05:46 PM
1

but they can only sell the ad space for a fraction of what they can for men's games Why? 52 million (womens viewership) is not 1/4 of 72 million (mens viewership). Because women don't buy as much? Most marketers will tell you otherwise. If stations are underselling their ads, only because they presume that they won't be able to sell for higher, that's just plain bad financial sense.
/r/MensRights12/07/19 05:41 PM
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Most people here are pushing overall FIFA international revenue. If you look at US team revenue, though, the picture doesn't follow that narrative either. https://www.businessinsider.com/us-womens-soccer-games-out-earned-mens-games-low-pay-2019-6 So one hand you have "well, mens world cup earns 50 times as much as women's world cup worldwide," and on the other hand you have "US mens soccer earns slightly less than US women's soccer, but they get paid 4x as much." So then people backpedal to thin…
/r/MensRights12/07/19 12:26 AM
1

Even in the system where that supposedly happens, it doesn't happen. Hardly anyone gets paid based on the wealth they create. It's just something we tell ourselves to be okay with it.
/r/MensRights09/07/19 03:41 AM
-1

If you believe that what people should be paid is how much others are willing to pay you for it, rather than how difficult the work is, then sure. But if that's the measuring stick on the value of a person or of their work effort, then, a lot of us, men included, are really fucked.
/r/MensRights09/07/19 02:38 AM
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Women: We don't need men = Feminism Men: We don't need women = Misogyny
/r/MensRights28/06/19 09:42 PM
7

TBF FWIW one of those deletions was to change the title to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_against_men which is still there and has not been proposed for deletion (yet).
/r/MensRights28/06/19 07:50 PM
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Deletionism is so rampant at WP it's a minor miracle that there's anything left on the site. "I've never heard of it, so delete." "I think it is controversial, so delete." "I don't think it's written well, so delete." "It's old, so delete."
/r/MensRights28/06/19 07:45 PM
1

Cannot confirm
/r/MensRights28/06/19 05:58 PM
8

Did the whole street clap too?
/r/MensRights24/06/19 05:48 AM
1

Well, the womens' suffrage movement was a thing beyond the US (in fact the US wasn't even the first country to grant it, not by a long shot; the first women's suffrage movement was Welsh in the late 1800s) and by the time it was a thing, universal male suffrage was a thing already. I don't think that universal male suffrage was tied to conscription. Besides, there were forms of conscription and impressment (not federal, though) well before universal male suffrage. Ultimately universal women's su…
/r/MensRights15/06/19 07:35 AM
1

I mean, yeah, it's a practice what you preach thing. Protect yourself, don't let others take advantage of you. If a movement is teaching women they don't have to protect themselves (under the blaming the victim argument), that's not a good reason to follow it too.
/r/MensRights14/06/19 07:41 PM
-10

Implying this sub isn't mostly misogynists
/r/MensRights14/06/19 07:31 PM
-10

Well I mean there are condoms. Just saying.
/r/MensRights14/06/19 06:16 PM
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For the record, first wave feminism was the suffragette movement. Getting women the right to vote. Are you against that? Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-wave_feminism And if you don't like that, https://www.conservapedia.com/Feminism#History
/r/MensRights14/06/19 06:15 PM
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This comment drips sopped with irony.
/r/MensRights14/06/19 06:14 PM
1

Actually anti-trans feminism is a thing, they call it TERF or "gender critical feminism" and it's become pretty called out lately. https://medium.com/@transphilosophr/gender-critical-feminism-is-garbage-22e420d908a4
/r/MensRights10/06/19 06:22 PM
5

It's not talking about the same cancer, it's talking about the cancer(s) that predominantly affect that gender
/r/MensRights07/06/19 06:48 PM
-1

Not to mention know how to remove the bra
/r/MensRights23/05/19 06:46 PM
4

On the other hand, maybe that means more women should learn CPR.
/r/MensRights23/05/19 06:44 PM
4

Why are you seeing this person if this matters to you? Maybe grow a spine and nope out.
/r/MensRights14/05/19 03:44 AM
6

There was a piece in Medium this week about "White Feminism" is basically white supremacism, because white feminists care about white women first, and often co-opt racial arguments and imagery for their own isolated cause. This seems to play onto the occasional critique of 3rd/4th wave as putting the first-world-problems of Western women as more critical than, say, the problems of many more women in undeveloped and considerably more backward countries.
/r/MensRights08/05/19 09:42 PM
1

On the other hand, ethnic cleansing often involves raping the female.
/r/MensRights30/04/19 07:21 AM
1

TIL women can't be sarcastic
/r/MensRights26/04/19 06:12 AM
1

How do you get down
/r/MensRights26/04/19 06:02 AM
1

It's almost as if two wrongs didn't make a right or something.
/r/MensRights22/04/19 06:03 PM
12

TIL not having sex is sexual abuse
/r/MensRights15/04/19 08:18 AM
4

or you could just not fucking show up
/r/MensRights07/03/19 11:26 PM
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What you're talking about I would call a member of the board. (A board which yes is called Board of Directors but people don't refer to them as directors outside of that context.) But there are also managerial positions referred to as "directors." Director Of Sales, or Director of Engineering, for example. These are FTE management positions but they are not considered executive positions, which at most companies would start at Vice President Of X or even Senior Vice President or Executive Vice P…
/r/MensRights04/03/19 07:25 AM
0

It's technically possible, but it presumes inequality. The other question to consider is: if true, is that because the business world is geared towards male skills and not female skills? Or is it because women have traditionally not been encouraged/included in those roles in order to gain the same experience? Or is it because there's something fundamentally inferior about women that makes them bad at managing? I don't think the last one is terribly plausible, but maybe there's something else goi…
/r/MensRights04/03/19 07:18 AM
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No you condescending turd, that's the fucking point.
/r/MensRights04/03/19 12:39 AM
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I'm disappointed that you're content with merely assuming rather than finding out.
/r/MensRights04/03/19 12:27 AM
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Right, but why arent there any executive women at any of the banks?
/r/MensRights04/03/19 12:26 AM
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It says top women at those banks. Meaning the top women. As in highest ranked women. I mean, it's there in English. People are just being thick and it's not clever, it just looks ignorant. The left does it just as much as the right, and it just makes their arguments look weak. How about making the strong arguments instead of the disingenuous ones?
/r/MensRights04/03/19 12:12 AM
0

Well I must be reading a different image because it says "top women at these banks", not random women as the cranks are asserting.
/r/MensRights04/03/19 12:02 AM
26

Actually id be curious to. Go ahead and find out
/r/MensRights03/03/19 11:31 PM
80

Right but why arent they executives
/r/MensRights03/03/19 11:29 PM
-21

It says top women, not random women.
/r/MensRights03/03/19 11:29 PM
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Yes but i think the point is women aren't being made executives. The article says they are the top i.e. highest ranked women at the other banks.
/r/MensRights03/03/19 11:27 PM
1

I dunno, there's so many of those services and they come and go. You sign up with them and pay them a subscription and each week or two they deliver a box of fresh groceries to your house. I thought there was one in the US called Spud but all I can find now is some really regional stuff that doesn't look like the same company. I realized after my last post that OP didn't post the link to the story but instead I found it from a search. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2424680/Kate-Thomp…
/r/MensRights28/02/19 12:28 AM
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You know people don't read the article when they don't notice that the name after "BY" under the headline is the same name as the name in the headline Or that the entire thing is written in the first person. Edit: I had found the article from a google search, when I wrote this I forgot OP hadn't given it.
/r/MensRights28/02/19 12:03 AM
0

She's a deputy editor of a national magazine. His job has something to do with basically Peapod. How does he make more money?
/r/MensRights28/02/19 12:02 AM
3

Help me out here. She only has sex with him once a decade, but she has two kids 2 and 6.
/r/MensRights27/02/19 11:55 PM
16

But the "patriarchy also hurts men" is always in regards to things that women think are bad for men. For example, it makes men not know how to treat women.
/r/MensRights26/02/19 01:24 AM
2

you mean like /r/menslib
/r/MensRights26/02/19 01:23 AM
1

They know what's best for us. /s
/r/MensRights19/02/19 12:52 AM
1

And the editor didn't drop them like a rock.
/r/MensRights17/02/19 08:18 PM
31

Trolls trolling trolling trolls
/r/MensRights17/02/19 03:31 AM
3

This is parody / sociopolitical satire, it's Titania McGrath. https://www.thepostmillennial.com/why-titania-mcgrath-is-funny/ https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/02/the-genius-of-titania-mcgrath/
/r/MensRights17/02/19 03:05 AM
2

This is a parody, right? Right? Please? "I have no doubt whatsoever of my innate superiority over men." I mean, except when it comes to running a publishing house.
/r/MensRights17/02/19 02:58 AM
1

Take that, Hillbots
/r/MensRights14/02/19 05:17 AM
1

It's called equality, look it up
/r/MensRights13/02/19 12:01 AM
2

So fucking what? Do we base any system of laws or ethics on what the victim speaks? Should we? Can I get off for murder if the victim wanted to die? Can I get off for theft if the person didn't want the thing? Can I get off for jaywalking if there were no cars? No, because that's not how it works.
/r/MensRights12/02/19 11:59 PM
2

I speak for all X when I say I don't speak for all X
/r/MensRights12/02/19 11:57 PM
1

I don't think either of those blanket rules are correct at all. I think everyone has /deserves the same right to protection or lack thereof as anyone else. It's not one or the other.
/r/MensRights12/02/19 11:56 PM
1

I hear if you're famous and you're rich... I mean, that's just what I've heard.
/r/MensRights12/02/19 11:54 PM
3

Your idea of being an adult as being a silent victim has nothing to do with equality.
/r/MensRights12/02/19 11:49 PM
7

Has anyone else noticed that when the statistics don't match the third wave narrative, it's because of "under reporting," but when the statistics do match the narrative, they are 100% solid and impeccable? Kind of like how the unemployment numbers under one president can be "fake" but the very same numbers under the next president are 100% true.
/r/MensRights12/02/19 11:03 PM
1

In my dictionary, equality means "the state of having equal value." That is not the same as "being the same." But in sociological contexts, it quite typically means "treated the same." I see a lot of people in the comments to this post acting like they speak for everyone here, and it boggles the mind. You really don't, so please stop acting like you do.
/r/MensRights12/02/19 10:57 PM
3

You assume that one cannot be leftist and be in favor of true gender equality. You are wrong. In fact the traditional far left is patently opposed to identity politics as it dilutes and distracts from the primary target of classism. I fail to see how you reach the conclusion that the only valid definition of gender egalitarianism is based on anarchic "grow a pair and suck it up" mentality. It's simply not true. This isn't /r/altright, it's /r/mensrights, and they are two distinct topics.
/r/MensRights12/02/19 10:55 PM
1

Hamburger: There is a version of a burger that has ham. Wait, no there isn't.
/r/MensRights29/01/19 07:26 PM
-2

I'm in the minority, but I really don't give a shit about the commercial, I haven't even bothered to see it, and I'm a Norelco man anyway. I'm more dismayed at all the insane back and forth going on about it.
/r/MensRights24/01/19 07:01 AM
-6

And the whole room applauded
/r/MensRights06/12/18 10:09 PM
1

They took a year off and then didn't get offered as much when they tried to get jobs again after a year. This is a problem because apparently they are more likely to take a year off. Why, is another question.
/r/MensRights01/12/18 02:01 AM
0

As much as I understand tribalist driven prejudice, I also know that it's wrong and we can be better than it.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 08:03 PM
1

I saw that post. I'm pretty sure most of those replies were sarcastic.
/r/MensRights01/11/18 04:52 PM
4

Not to mention saving women and children...
/r/MensRights18/10/18 09:07 PM
5

#misandrydoesntexist
/r/MensRights18/10/18 09:07 PM
1

we should hold up the politicians combing high school yearbooks for anything they can use But we often do. The right response is to say "I was wrong then, and I'm sorry for it." Not doubling down on it and justifying it because it's "normal." "Normal" doesn't mean "right."
/r/MensRights16/10/18 04:53 PM
0

and then and even so and there fore
/r/MensRights15/10/18 06:54 AM
2

No. He was chosen by the President to be a new judge on the US Supreme Court which is the final say on legal decisions. The upper house of the US legislature (the Senate) has to agree to let him on. In order to assess whether or not he should be accepted, a subset of the Senate forms a committee and holds hearings into the issue, usually involving asking the nominee questions. Those hearings are where Mrs. Ford told her story, as well as where Mr. Kavanaugh had his public emotional breakdown in …
/r/MensRights14/10/18 06:32 PM
0

Yeah, but why? Is "nobody else saw it" really enough justification to write something off as a lie? To me the question of whether she lied -- or he lied (although...) -- is pretty unanswered, and perhaps unknowable.
/r/MensRights14/10/18 06:18 PM
1

So, you think a legislative hearing is a judicial trial? Let me tell you about the three separate branches of government. This whole "hearing == trial" line is just plain false. Ridiculously false. Like make-you-look-like-you-flunked-high-school false.
/r/MensRights14/10/18 02:07 AM
1

So has she
/r/MensRights14/10/18 02:03 AM
1

the rape trial I'm still missing something here. What trial?
/r/MensRights14/10/18 12:03 AM
1

Well, tell me the rules of it; I think that would be enlightening.
/r/MensRights13/10/18 11:47 PM
-1

Yeah, but is that the same as being smeared? There's a bit of a logical leap here IMO that says "not proven" means "smeared."
/r/MensRights13/10/18 11:46 PM
1

I think being not proven guilty is a far cry from being "smeared," though.
/r/MensRights13/10/18 11:45 PM
1

Point not denied.
/r/MensRights13/10/18 11:44 PM
1

I guess that depends on what the issue is about. Do you want a piece of shit deciding the laws for the country? Maybe some have a higher bar than "didn't rape anyone."
/r/MensRights13/10/18 11:43 PM
2

I can't honestly decide if I think a good man, an innocent man, especially one with a career as a judge, would act with the sort of rabid-dog reaction that BK did. He makes Clarence Thomas' reaction to his own (not dissimilar) experience look calm and reasonable in comparison. What was Merrick Garland's reaction to being royally shafted for months? Ranting and raving and threatening to rain fire down on his enemies? Yes, I do think BK didst protest too much, as the saying goes. No one is entitle…
/r/MensRights13/10/18 11:42 PM
1

I would have been very happy with a fair trial.
/r/MensRights13/10/18 11:32 PM
3

remember how she escaped the locked room or how she managed to get home after being traumatized. I mean, being traumatized is a bitch. Have you ever been traumatized? How well do you remember every detail of it? Let's be even handed here. Traumatized people often have gaps in their memory from the traumatic event and even afterwards while their brains continue to react from the aftereffects of the trauma. I don't think that's a novel concept.
/r/MensRights13/10/18 02:28 AM
3

Wouldn't that standard of believability vs credibility also apply to "Devils triangle is a drinking game" Kavanaugh?
/r/MensRights13/10/18 02:23 AM
1

they didn't investigate anything. What did you think they were going to investigate? I'm not wrong, then, am I?
/r/MensRights13/10/18 12:58 AM
11

What made you conclude she was not believable?
/r/MensRights12/10/18 04:05 PM
-29

Probably the part where they didn't investigate anything.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 04:04 PM
125

I have a real hard time buying the notion of Brett Kavanaugh as a "good man." Even if you believe that Ford lied or remembered wrong, even if you believe he never raped or assaulted anyone (even if you believe the incredulous description of a Devils Triangle as a drinking game), there's still plenty of details in his background to illustrate him as a royal stinking turd. Painting Kavanaugh's history as normal, acceptable, or even commendable, is the height of absurdity and simply cannot be taken…
/r/MensRights12/10/18 04:04 PM
3

She did specify that it was particular white males. But wouldn't one think that the 6 white women senators in that boat are also deserving of the same - - in fact, more - - scorn?
/r/MensRights08/10/18 02:18 AM
2

Pretty sure the women's only train cars are a Tokyo Metro thing. One thing to note is that Tokyo subway trains are routinely packed to the gills. I don't mean you can't find a seat. I mean they literalky have people on the platform whose job it is to push people into the cars so the doors can close. As a result, some people apparently take advantage of that to do a fair amount of groping. I'm not excusing the practice here, I'm just saying this is the solution they came up with (rather than, say…
/r/MensRights08/10/18 01:45 AM
2

I don't think it's about the struggle. I think it's about the treatment, the judgement, the things being advocated.
/r/MensRights08/10/18 01:40 AM
2

I saw something go around a week ago or so, it purported to be the results of a survey asking women how their lives would change if all men had a 9pm curfew. The answers being shared were things like "I'd go for an evening walk." I'm like, gee , how would that sound if you replaced "women" with "white people" and "men" with "black people"? I didn't see it come up again the next day, so I'm guessing more than one person pointed that out.
/r/MensRights08/10/18 01:39 AM
3

That was first wave.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 05:08 PM
2

I have concluded lately that I would easily fall in the category of "first wave feminism," which focused on creating equal opportunities and upending traditionalist gender roles. I'm not entirely sure if I would fit into any of the later waves.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 05:08 PM
4

Who's losing their job here?
/r/MensRights27/09/18 05:05 PM
10

It's not a contradiction. WTA is backing the claims. The stats do say that only women were penalized for coaching. On the other hand, the stats say that for most other violations, men are penalized much more often than women.
/r/MensRights10/09/18 06:18 PM
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I don't personally think #metoo has gone too far or that anything is really wrong with it. Expression is good. Visibility is good. Exposure is good. The problem, if there is one, with #metoo is how it is being used selectively. But this isn't really #metoo's problem. It's fourth-wave's problem. I have my own #metoo's. I bet most men would also have them if they really thought about it on an even plain. But men are conditioned to accept, even glorify, sexual assault against them. And the problem …
/r/MensRights16/08/18 05:35 PM
1

... But... Joe Bernstein is a straight white man.
/r/MensRights08/08/18 01:44 AM
11

I think the linchpin here is the word "primary."
/r/MensRights24/07/18 07:35 AM
81

"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat."
/r/MensRights24/07/18 04:46 AM
2

I wonder what they think about all the pink shit in October. Or any single yogurt ad in existence.
/r/MensRights20/07/18 07:46 PM
1

In point of fact, Russia, UK, Australia, Poland, and even the French Resistance had women combatants. There were a lot of other countries in WWII than the US. However, as far as I know, none of them had steel claw prosthetic hands. It's not real... if they want to act like it is, well, that's dumb.
/r/MensRights13/07/18 07:47 PM
2

available to give BJs might not be helping the case.
/r/MensRights05/07/18 06:43 PM
2

Rhiannon is now a convicted criminal, virtually unemployable and forever tarred as a liar. Yeah, how unfair, let's not talk about men falsely convicted of rape, not only unemployable and forever tarred as a rapist, but, you know, jailed for life and even if not, not allowed to live in certain parts of town
/r/MensRights30/06/18 07:33 PM
2

if it’s unclear whether the accusation was made maliciously. .... .... ..... Yeah, hey police, my husband is a child rapist, but I don't mean that in a bad way.
/r/MensRights30/06/18 07:30 PM
4

they reportedly went to police only under pressure Huh? Like, it didn't happen, but there's some force out there that pressures them into saying it did? To police? Huh? or never named their attacker at all. That's interesting. I... what? What then is the goal here?
/r/MensRights30/06/18 07:25 PM
4

I'm a bit raged, I mean, this is like... it's finally gone too fucking far. Women committing crimes being punished for committing those crimes is a horrible thing? They're not criminals, they're "vulnerable?" What the ever loving fuck? What's vulnerable about being a slandering liar?
/r/MensRights30/06/18 07:24 PM
2

I've told I'm misogynist because I don't think men should be collectively vilified and demonized. So, that should tell you something.
/r/MensRights30/06/18 07:22 PM
0

just because the crime can not be proven in court, it does not mean that the victim is lying. That's a shame. But we have a system of justice that does its best to determine guilt or innocence reliably. Just because it doesn't have 100% track record doesn't mean it needs to be thrown out. Who are you (or I) to decide that we know better than a team of lawyers, judges, and a jury that has examined evidence over the course of whole days? I held out for Cosby, but then he was convicted. Even though…
/r/MensRights30/06/18 07:16 PM
3

Quite ironically it's men who the police don't believe.
/r/MensRights30/06/18 07:04 PM
-5

Elian Gonzales?
/r/MensRights22/06/18 06:47 PM
11

Can you confirm? The way I read the post title, the accusation was that he'd been continually molesting the daughter for 15 years, which would seem hard for the daughter not to be aware of. Unless mom taught the girl that "molesting" means "giving candy" or something.
/r/MensRights21/06/18 04:36 PM
1

Who said they would be pretty? That's not in the advertisment.
/r/MensRights20/06/18 04:42 PM
1

I'm pretty sure this is sarcasm. I can't find a source for the Sustrans manager's quote, and there's plenty of tongue in cheek snips in the article. She even points out that "You can tell them until the cows come home that the roads are statistically safe, and that you are more likely to be killed walking than on a bicycle," with links.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 01:29 AM
1

Yay, evidence. Like pulling teeth sometimes ffs.
/r/MensRights29/05/18 05:40 AM
1

No, there's a difference between having a different opinion based on facts, and completely making fake facts up because it suits your own preconceived narrative.
/r/MensRights29/05/18 05:37 AM
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So.... you simply make it up, and presume, to conform to the scenario that would satisfy you best.
/r/MensRights28/05/18 08:08 PM
3

I don't see the supposed kicking and punching of the woman in this video. Pics or it didn't happen...
/r/MensRights28/05/18 08:07 PM
0

My point was that America is not immune to imposing gender norms on children as you implied.
/r/MensRights27/05/18 07:36 PM
0

I guess you've never bought a Happy Meal :)
/r/MensRights27/05/18 08:02 AM
2

I don't think Rob "Deuce Bigalow" Schneider is the best example of the average actor. He doesn't get paid well because he's not a good actor.
/r/MensRights21/05/18 05:42 PM
0

I said precisely what I meant. You decided to talk about something else to maintain the outrage machine. I can't help that.
/r/MensRights02/05/18 06:52 PM
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Don't be obtuse. The question is not whether anyone in the world believes it. The post title begins with "The New York Times thinks" it. And that is false.
/r/MensRights02/05/18 06:22 PM
1

Printing is not supporting. A good publication will not censor their opinion page based on the ideology of the writer or the piece. A good publication will provide a voice to all viewpoints in their community. Maybe everyone in here would prefer they didnt, idk.
/r/MensRights02/05/18 04:46 PM
1

Bullshit post title. Stephen Marsh, who wrote the article, does not work for the New York Times. Do you not know what an opinion page is? And since OP for some reason neglected to provide the source, here's the actual opinion piece, from November : http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43822184
/r/MensRights02/05/18 04:21 PM
2

Yeah, but being cared for by someone who no longer appreciates you and doesn't want to do it isn't a lot better. Certainly being dumped and left to rot is not a great option. At least in a facility he can be cared for. They may not care care, but they will at least attend to his medical and health needs.
/r/MensRights20/04/18 04:44 AM
8

She fucking owes him. NO WOMAN OWES ANY MAN ANYTHING, YOU SHITLORD /s
/r/MensRights19/04/18 07:50 PM
8

Divorce is hardly the only option. I'm tempted to say that, well, if you're no longer able to care for the person whom you owe your life, then, well, the noble thing to do would be... well, I can't say that. She could put him in hospice, she could find another way to take care of him. She literally owes him her life. Of course, in SJW logic, that's a fair trade for the centuries of (insert crime against women here)
/r/MensRights19/04/18 07:48 PM
1

"I am being discriminated against at my school because of my beliefs," Lyle said. "It's a shame." All else aside, that's some whiny snowflake bullshit right there. I have no problem with discriminating against people for beliefs. You can change beliefs (unlike, say, skin color, or sexual attraction, or what have you). Beliefs aren't facts, even though they are usually based on them. I do expect a college professor to be ... objective, at least in their teachings and interactions with the class. …
/r/MensRights18/04/18 10:04 PM
19

This article is Complete and utter fucking bullshit. She wasn't cancelled from YouTube (and Twitter before it) for being traditionalist or anti-feminists. She was cancelled for literally being a white power racist. What a fucking snow job. (Some people will believe anything as long as it makes them look good and other people look bad. You know, believing things without thinking or researching.)
/r/MensRights10/04/18 11:25 PM
-1

Stop going for diamonds. Just collect some shit off the beach. Apparently that's what matters.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 09:35 PM
6

On the other hand, if we were to start using the phrase "toxic femininity...."
/r/MensRights10/03/18 06:09 PM
1

There's masculinity, and there's toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 06:09 PM
12

I'll just put this here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/8459167/Good-looking-women-discriminated-against-by-female-recruiters.html
/r/MensRights24/02/18 07:19 PM
1

I don't think that's my point. I think that men are conditioned towards a limited set of mechanisms. (Women are, too, no doubt.) Having a larger set might disincline the chances of poor choices of expression (say, killing people -- I'd like to think we can agree that that's not a good one).
/r/MensRights23/02/18 08:02 PM
10

I think they carefully sidestep that, not so much deny it. I agree that it's an important part of the equation. Most men are manly because most women prefer manly men. Just like most women are feminine and do feminine things because most men prefer feminine women. I don't think this is necessary in either case, but it is that way. Culture? Media? Tradition? Biochemistry? I don't honestly know. Edit: And maybe identifying the root cause is not important right now, maybe it's more important to get…
/r/MensRights22/02/18 10:56 PM
5

I think the headline is the real culprit here. The synopsis is considerably less antagonistic. Is it not fair to say that traditionalism affords men few non-violent outlets for emotion? I would certainly agree with that, and I expect that's what Michael Ian Black would be trying to say. The headline writer is the one who contorted it into "boys are a problem."
/r/MensRights22/02/18 10:53 PM
-2

I was specifically only talking about Alabama and Mississippi, which as my history serves, have had more a few significant civil rights incidents between them.
/r/MensRights13/02/18 02:06 AM
0

Well no. That's not correct. Statutory rape is when the law says something is "rape." This is not statutory rape, because the charged crime is not "rape" or even "statutory rape," but "engaging in a sex act of deviant sexual intercourse with a student under the age of 19." Stautory rape laws aren't even necessarily laws creating special types of rape. For example, the "statutory rape law" in Alabama (where this story happened) works by saying a person under a certain age cannot legally consent. …
/r/MensRights13/02/18 02:04 AM
1

I think this is not a gender issue, that's the thing. I don't think she's saying because she's a woman that she should get a pass. She just happens to be a woman who is arguing a law that treats her entire profession unfairly. Yes, there are "position of power" laws that make it illegal for adults have sex with people that are under 18 where the age of consent is otherwise lower than 18. But I'm not aware of one other than this where the "position of power" law applies to youth over 18, as this …
/r/MensRights12/02/18 09:08 PM
2

It's true. Mississippi gets a share.
/r/MensRights12/02/18 07:42 PM
8

Yeah, real reputable news source there.
/r/MensRights12/02/18 07:42 PM
4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Clause is the one they're targeting. It isn't that they are arguing she is differently treated for being a woman. They are arguing she is differently treated for being a teacher.
/r/MensRights12/02/18 07:42 PM
6

TIL 19 year olds are kids now. This is not a statutory rape case. This is a conviction under a law that makes it a crime for teachers to have sex with students even if they are of legal age.
/r/MensRights12/02/18 07:39 PM
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http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/news/20180206/pickens-teacher-appealing-conviction-in-sex-case The law being contested by Parker prohibits school employees from having sex with students under the age of 19, irrespective of where the student is enrolled. Parker’s lawyer, Virginia Buck, is insisting that Alabama law supposedly does not make it a crime for members of other occupations to have consensual sex with 16, 17, and 18-year-olds
/r/MensRights12/02/18 07:38 PM
1

I wonder if the gender of the person giving the discrimination made a difference in the perception. (Kind of ironic since there's another study (for example) that said that women HR will discriminate against women job candidates.)
/r/MensRights28/01/18 12:12 AM
1

You know, it occurs to me that we could say to women "are you uncomfortable? What would make you more comfortable?" But I then realize that as a man, in general, nobody asks me that. (Unless they're providing a service or care about be personally.) And that's the part of all of this that really gets me. As women increasingly experience "man's world," warts and all, they seem to confuse the ugly truth of that existence with sexism directed at them. A lot of women seem convinced that male life is …
/r/MensRights27/01/18 08:54 PM
1

FWIW I just added a link to the original post and article.
/r/MensRights27/01/18 08:50 PM
1

Free cookies for Elizabeth Warren! note: I actually like Warren, but couldn't resist. And I would give her free cookies just because. So there.
/r/MensRights26/01/18 06:28 PM
7

The problem is that the threshold of sexual abuse for girls is something like "somebody snapped my training bra strap," whereas the threshold of sexual abuse for boys is touching exposed genitals.
/r/MensRights24/01/18 05:58 PM
4

inb4 "MRAs want women to sign contracts to get laid" LOL like those shitlords can get laid at all IKR women don't have to sign their lives away for sex Must feel bad that they have to use computers to understand how to talk properly to a woman
/r/MensRights16/01/18 09:37 PM
3

How the fuck is this not patriarchial traditionalism? It's mens' job to protect women because women can't protect themselves?
/r/MensRights11/01/18 07:25 PM
2

She was dependent on any male partners she was with. She appeared to lack common sense Apparently that's sufficient to get you out of a manslaughter charge. If you're a woman, at least. #infantilism
/r/MensRights21/12/17 02:32 AM
-3

But women attempt it more which is like the same thing and stuff.
/r/MensRights24/11/17 07:10 AM
1

No, my point was about the ethics.
/r/MensRights06/11/17 11:38 PM
4

Might it have had something to do with strapping the infant tightly and immobilizing its head? Seems problematic to investigate non consensual activity via non consensual activity
/r/MensRights06/11/17 05:17 PM
1

It's been a bit ironic to see all the male abuse come to fore as a result of what the (cis)woman identity politics movement probably thought was going to be their big moment. Turns out they don't have a monopoly on abuse. Maybe it's come to a head. For quite some time, there's been a lot of carping from the extreme feminist circle about all these "unfair" things that men have been sucking up for centuries, and this "exclusivity of unfairness" bullshit can't end soon enough.
/r/MensRights05/11/17 04:37 AM
0

I did feel objectified, and now I’ve learned how to control that and just shutting it down.” Now I get it. Because apparently women can't do that, they are wrongly affected.
/r/MensRights01/11/17 09:01 PM
1

It's okay, the U.S. will go back to leading you. I hear we're doing an A+ job.
/r/MensRights23/10/17 03:28 PM
4

I posted a comment of "me too" on a FB friend's post and the response was "yes, we don't talk about child abuse enough" and I'm like wait, I thought we were talking about sexual harassment, not statutory rape... Because the only way men are sexually assaulted is via child abuse, apparently. Quite often I'm like, come on, people, how can you not see the double standard?
/r/MensRights23/10/17 03:27 PM
88

Women > men, dontchaknow (Only in EF logic does greater than mean equal...)
/r/MensRights16/10/17 06:36 PM
79

"it's pretty obvious we don't mean literally scooping out men's brains from their heads." "but how dare you joke that women should be <whatever>, that's not funny"
/r/MensRights16/10/17 06:36 PM
6

So basically male privilege is "not having to deal with other women"
/r/MensRights15/10/17 07:04 PM
7

Well, we all know gay men are sexual predators /s
/r/MensRights11/10/17 09:45 PM
33

Clearly you haven't had a digital rectal examination. Edit: Incidentally, the term "digit" to refer to numbers comes from the term "digit" referring to finger.... due to our tendency to use our fingers to count on.
/r/MensRights11/10/17 04:52 PM
39

Well she was drunk, she couldn't consent. :P
/r/MensRights11/10/17 04:52 PM
1

I'm not aware they are somehow distinct.
/r/MensRights26/09/17 06:26 AM
1

But she says she wasn't drunk, so...
/r/MensRights20/09/17 03:52 PM
1

I did not expect the selective coverage or the amount of click bait ads from Reason.com.
/r/MensRights20/09/17 01:22 AM
27

Well, that, and they define male sexual assault as full on anal sodomization, and not, say, being grabbed, or even kicked, in the crotch, or buttocks, etc.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 03:21 PM
8

I sense a subtext there that it's only by other men.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 03:18 PM
1

Almost a /r/dontdeadopeninside
/r/MensRights10/05/17 10:07 PM
3

So they doxxed him. Irony is lost on zealots.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 05:00 PM
-1

However, the whole point of being human, pretty much by definition, is to have higher thought processes that allow you to overcome those tendencies. Edit: TIL this sub is all about being subservient to animal urges.
/r/MensRights14/04/17 03:53 PM
4

He may have a point, somewhat. Perhaps the paper thought it was surprising that 1/4 of homeless people were women since the stereotypical homeless person is a drunk / druggie skeezy guy. Here's the original June 1 article from Vancouver (BC) Metro on Issuu
/r/MensRights14/04/17 03:57 AM
12

If I say "I'm going to kill you," (non flippantly) that's a threat, and it's also a crime. I don't see why threatening to make false criminal accusations against someone shouldn't be taken seriously. It smacks of blackmail and/or extortion.
/r/MensRights07/04/17 03:46 PM
2

That is, charge her man.
/r/MensRights07/04/17 03:44 PM
3

Just more proof of Uber's misogyny /s
/r/MensRights07/04/17 03:41 PM
3

Acid attacks are on the rise, I hear...
/r/MensRights22/03/17 03:55 AM
1

SNOWFLAKES SNOWFLAKES EVERYWHERE
/r/MensRights19/03/17 07:57 PM
-2

No, it's in the dictionary. You are familiar with the dictionary, I hope.
/r/MensRights19/03/17 07:55 PM
1

That's the alt-right for you. Sources are bad, things pulled out of their asses are good. But you can't have any interest in men's issues without loving Donald Trump, it seems.
/r/MensRights19/03/17 07:52 PM
-29

It's called throwing shade. I mean I could say "watch out for that black guy, a lot of times they are criminals and do drugs" and just because there are some black guys that are criminals and do drugs doesn't mean that there's any reason to believe that a given black guy is a criminal and does drugs. Or I could say "don't eat that chicken, because sometimes chicken is undercooked and it gives you salmonella," even though I have no reason to believe that a given piece of chicken is undercooked.
/r/MensRights19/03/17 07:46 AM
-35

You know you're dealing with the alt-right when they throw out baseless accusations whenever the data doesn't suit them -- and fail to do any even basic Google search research of their own to determine whether the accusation it's really true or not. They're like overeager football refs who get cheap thrills out of tossing penalty flags around. Well, here's the booth review: All you have to do is search for "while male suicide 2015" and you find the source of the statistic: https://afsp.org/about…
/r/MensRights19/03/17 06:47 AM
1

ಠ_ಠ
/r/MensRights10/02/17 05:13 PM
1

It's this a bad thing or a good thing? Why are men expected to be the bread winners?
/r/MensRights09/02/17 10:02 PM
9

real arguments backed by real data Sometimes. Only when it exists, though. The rest of the time, he's full of shit.
/r/MensRights09/02/17 09:49 PM
5

Unfortunately, he's also a moron, and a douche to boot.
/r/MensRights09/02/17 09:48 PM
1

Hey op, this sub is good in moderation, but don't let it consume your world view. Diversify one in a while. Use the Abelard technique, compares and contrast sources, don't just jump into a big group think pool. You end up just making reactionary flame bait instead of being able to converse rationally . You could have just pointed out that that there weren't any fields hospitals at Normandy, or pointed out that even if there had been, they certainly weren't being deployed off amphibious carriers …
/r/MensRights25/01/17 04:33 PM
0

Not really, it's a reading comprehension exercise. It could just as easily be about Norse gods. Completing it wouldn't make you a Viking.
/r/MensRights06/01/17 08:24 PM
1

But discriminating based on choice of words is not a thing. Wanting to use a certain word is simply not a protected class. If I want to use the word "faggot" any school can have rules under which you can be expelled for it. Same with an employer. You don't get to go into court and say, well your honor, as a member of the oppressed faggolinguist group, I've been wrongly discriminated against. The judge will say, did they tell you not to use that word or else you'd be punished, and you truthfully …
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:17 AM
1

pronoun police Oooh, hyperbolic conservative doublespeak has arrived. You should have gone with "semantic stormtroopers" or "jack-booted nomenclature thugs". They have a much better catchiness to them. changing your college is a lot different than changing your job If you got into Oxford, I doubt that you'd have any trouble getting into another college. Even still, I don't agree. The processes are very similar, if not exactly on the same timeline. It depends entirely on your level of investment.…
/r/MensRights13/12/16 11:31 PM
-4

English is hard for you, no wonder you're all pissed off about it.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 11:12 PM
1

General usage changes start as specialized usages in a niche. It doesn't spontaneously occur overnight that 51% of the speakers of a language decide that, say, "awesome" means "really good" or that "leverage" is a verb. These changes start in subcultures (surfers) and niches (MBAs) and spreads. Edit: Let's deconstruct my expository sentence at the end there. LOL started among online chat users in the early 90s and probably earlier, a seriously abject minority of people. "Google" as a verb spread…
/r/MensRights13/12/16 11:11 PM
1

Yeah, it's like changing jobs when you find out you're not allowed to drink at lunch. :P
/r/MensRights13/12/16 11:07 PM
1

I don't usually spend much time in it so I probably missed that, but it used to happen before from time to time anyway.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 11:06 PM
1

....No, I don't think so. If a trans person says "call me he" it's because they don't want to be called "she" -- because there's some reason they expect they might be normally, if they don't say it. But calling them "they" or "Hey You" (or, their name) doesn't commit the mistake they are looking to avoid.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 11:06 PM
1

A great philosopher (I think it was my mother) once said, "I don't care what you call me, just don't call me late for dinner."
/r/MensRights13/12/16 08:26 PM
1

I'm sure no one is forcing those students to attend Oxford. There's always Cambridge, after all. :P
/r/MensRights13/12/16 08:01 PM
1

In my mind gender-neutral pronouns (that is to say, pronouns lacking a specific gender, as many pronouns already are) is right up the alley with the sort of new mode of thinking I'd like to promote, because I'm anti-traditionalist when it comes to gender constructs. We didn't stop using the word "retarded" because we changed our minds. We stopped using it because people told us it was offensive, and those of us who don't want to offend people stopped using it. If using gendered pronouns becomes …
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:58 PM
2

Not sure if being a transphobic snark or what. If I call you a person, if I call you a human being, is that misgendering you, because I didn't call you a male human being? No, of course not. Gender neutral pronouns don't assert a gender -- that's the point. You're trying to twist gender-neutral into the same thing as nongendered to make a weak argument about how it's thus incorrect because you are gendered. If I call a baseball a ball, without specifying it's a base ball, there's nothing incorre…
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:50 PM
-1

Actually, chaos would be the normal mechanism of evolution. So, um, your point is invalid because that's pretty much how it does work.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:41 PM
-15

Only when it gets overrun by reactionary counter-sexists who do damage to gender egalitarian goals.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:40 PM
0

And yet in this case substitutes have been provided. Simpler ones, in fact.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:40 PM
1

Oh dear. Do we have to have that explanation again? Really? Also, IDK if you know this, but the First Amendment doesn't have any effect in Oxford, England. Edit: a link
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:39 PM
0

That depends entirely on the language. Quite a lot of There do exist languages that are directed by an authority. Not everyone follows those authorities, but they do exist, for example, with continental French, or most famously, with Simplified Chinese. And this case isn't the action of a language authority, this is one school in one part of the world setting one standard for their school. I see little difference between this and, say, a school saying you can't hold hands with members of the opp…
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:01 PM
-1

Did you actually just miss the point? Yes, yes, you did. Sorry you're obtuse. it's forced changes Take it up with Noah Webster. If it weren't for him, we wouldn't be so fascistly constrained to a particular rigid establishment of how to spell words.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 06:52 PM
1

That's not the point, and people are being obtuse about it. The line was "can you imagine not using he or she" and it's a nonsensical complaint. Can you imagine not using Greek letters? Can you imagine not using the thorn (as we used to in English as in "þe Olde Shoppe?") Can you imagine not using the word "Mahometan" to describe a Muslim (as Jefferson did frequently)? Not using the word "Negro" (as the AP has stopped doing since the 1970s) to refer to black people? Not using the word "Siam" to …
/r/MensRights13/12/16 06:51 PM
0

Evolution specifically does not mean for the better.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 06:39 PM
2

Ze Germans?
/r/MensRights13/12/16 04:25 PM
-9

It would be a bit easier, actually. You're only upset because you're curmudgeonly fixated on traditionalist language. You may as well ask something like "can you imagine trying to write a book without using the word "nigger"? Language fucking evolves, man.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 04:25 PM
-35

You mean like practically every adaptation of the English language ever? LOL, go Google an awesome tweet, dude.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 04:22 PM
2

Seems like this is a language purity argument (which there ain't such a thing anyway) and not a gender rights argument.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 04:21 PM
6

Wait, why do you give a fuck about that? Seems like an equally "special snowflake" thing to feel the right to. And it stands to reason, to me, that if you need the right to be identified as male, everyone else likewise has the right to be identified in whatever bullshit traditionalist social construct they want.... Or more to the point, not be. I mean, the upswing of this argument is "I deserve the right to identify as male... and you don't deserve the right not to identify as female." How's tha…
/r/MensRights13/12/16 04:19 PM
-4

I don't see a problem with this. Traditional gender constructs are stupid, and contribute to the problem of sexism on all sides. Language affects perception, and gender neutral language would seem to me to be completely compatible with gender egalitarianism.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 04:15 PM
1

Gotta love the inset.
/r/MensRights04/12/16 08:10 PM
1

I swear i've seen this before.
/r/MensRights13/10/16 08:58 PM
13

/r/lightbulb: Put poke spawns at schools, with unlock codes teachers can give pupils.
/r/MensRights10/10/16 03:11 PM
2

Cue article from angry tumblrist about how there's no guys to pick up at bars anymore. #mustbepatriarchy
/r/MensRights03/10/16 04:30 PM
1

I guarantee you I can find thousands of women who are stronger than me, a man. So I guess that doesn't quite really work the way you think it does.
/r/MensRights30/09/16 01:55 AM
-8

Is that biological or is it societal? Women can be muscle-bound, but it's not socially acceptable, because traditionalism.
/r/MensRights29/09/16 07:51 PM
-1

Honestly that's a wiry lean woman versus a bulky guy. Kinda fucked to take two arbitrary people and then make generalizations on their entire halves of society. I know plenty of women who could take down that door as well as a man. They don't look like the photogenic yogurt-commercial-looking woman in this picture, though. Seriously though, they also carry equipment for this sort of thing. Axes and what not.
/r/MensRights29/09/16 05:33 PM
3

Aside from being patently traditionalist pap, I fail to see how it is even remotely relevant to the topic of this sub... And moreover, how it continues to taint egalitarianism just by promoting it within here. It smacks rather redpilly.
/r/MensRights23/09/16 06:32 PM
1

'We don't hate men, we just blame them for the world's problems and demand that they completely change the way they are.'
/r/MensRights21/09/16 06:02 PM
12

16 is the age of consent in Australia but most states have additional laws against situations involving position-of-authority with people under 18. https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/age-consent-laws Although the legal age of consent throughout Australia is either 16 or 17 years of age, legislation in New South Wales, Victoria, Western Australia, South Australia and the Northern Territory makes it an offence for a person in a supervisory role to sexually engage with a person under their speci…
/r/MensRights23/08/16 03:28 PM
1

If Bill Clinton is a feminist, Hitler must be a frigging rabbi. That being said, if someone can say with a straight face that Hillary Rodham would be where she is today if she hadn't married William Clinton, I'd sure like to hear it. But obviously even Bill knows this.
/r/MensRights27/07/16 07:32 PM
8

"we agreed to it, but it was rape." Wait what?
/r/MensRights21/07/16 07:55 PM
0

The title of this post is wrong. It is not to do with "reporting more rapes" nor is it to do with "don't report enough rapes." It is to do with responding and reacting to such reports. According to White House officials, top members of the administration — including the president, the vice president, their wives and members of the Cabinet — will not visit institutions whose leaders they consider insufficiently serious about pursuing sexual-assault allegations and punishing perpetrators.
/r/MensRights05/07/16 10:52 PM
1

Reaching out to them in the three days since I posted that? Not so good, in terms of actually doing it.
/r/MensRights31/05/16 04:41 AM
1

The last one made me realize I probably should reach out more to my ex's kids (and, uh, their kids, where applicable) that I lived with for the majority of their childhoods, especially now that I do have a new GF.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 06:24 PM
0

Mofos don't know bout dat "/s"
/r/MensRights04/05/16 10:12 PM
-5

What a pussy. /s
/r/MensRights04/05/16 04:22 PM
3

Well gee, that sure explains why she's sent so many of them (mostly black) to the halls of her prison industry buddies. See, because she hates women.
/r/MensRights30/04/16 07:51 AM
1

Well except there is this bit about "I said no but he penetrated me anyway"
/r/MensRights20/04/16 11:54 PM
6

The problem with leaving it up to the child to decide is that this makes for a worse situation for the child as the parents will pressure and influence the kid into choosing them. You then also risk leaving the kid with emotional issues as they deal with the guilt of having that decision foisted upon them. Notwithstanding abuse or cruelty, mandatory 50/50 is best for the child as there is no difficult decision for the emotionally vulnerably child to be weighed with. Children of divorced parents …
/r/MensRights08/04/16 07:56 PM
1

A slightly better argument than "men are more popular".
/r/MensRights21/03/16 07:24 PM
1

At least the clipart is realistic /s
/r/MensRights16/03/16 07:02 AM
74

"this girl felt scared and that's all that really matters" Isn't that the exact same defense used for * racially profiling muslims * the Iraq War * the internment of Japanese during WWII * the rise of the Nazi Party in Germany * the militarization of American police and a host of other really wonderful social developments?
/r/MensRights13/03/16 04:51 PM
36

“I feel like they kind of messed it up for the rest of us,” Olivia Bishop, a junior, said on Tuesday. “It’s like, I stood up for you, and now to figure out that you wanted this whole thing to be a hoax, it’s disappointing. It’s just honestly the saddest thing in the world.” It's also too bad IMO that the article presents this as "fuel for conservatives." I'm no conservative. But I try to be objective (not, mind you, objectivist) and rational. To me this issue is one that has two valid sides and …
/r/MensRights02/03/16 07:16 PM
1

Can you be racist against black people in Zimbabwe or bigoted against Muslims in Iran?
/r/MensRights22/02/16 08:18 PM
2

"This is what your melons will look like" But violence against women is bad (not so much against men)
/r/MensRights21/02/16 08:59 PM
1

Actually, since debt and poverty disproportionately impact black people.... it would actually help quite a bit.
/r/MensRights17/02/16 07:18 PM
2

student servive fees Don't correct their spelling, that's mansplaining. Edit: And I really doubt that Teamsters Local 320 had anything to do with the photocopying of this flyer. If I were them, I wouldn't have put my bug on that shoddy piece of crapsmanship. Dat spelling, dat pixelation, dat copyright-violated fist. Also, AFAIK Teamsters don't represent printers.
/r/MensRights17/02/16 09:30 AM
1

We have all the rights and all the power in society, but we're weak. It's kind of like that saying about why God invented whiskey, so that the Irish wouldn't take over the world.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 02:29 AM
1

Two women say this didn't happen. I know who I believe! /s
/r/MensRights01/02/16 07:48 PM
3

She's only getting a very small investment fund of about 1.6 million dollars.
/r/MensRights01/02/16 02:41 AM
1

He must not have seen the original.
/r/MensRights25/01/16 06:12 PM
2

And it's not "a natural heterosexual desire to be attractive to the opposite sex" so it must therefore be "our patriarchial culture"
/r/MensRights18/01/16 10:19 AM
3

And if you did have a men's center, and it didn't allow women inside, there would be holy hell, lawsuits, riots.
/r/MensRights19/12/15 12:51 AM
1

"men have all the rights"
/r/MensRights19/12/15 12:50 AM
13

"What matters is that sex workers are believed." Apparently, porn star James Deen is not a sex worker.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 10:22 PM
14

In Feminist Russia, college convicts you! Edit: The way the college administration is so sophomorically (pun intended) equated here with the Constitutional justice system, I'm also reminded of Heathers: "Now there's a school that self-destructed, not because society didn't care, but because the school was society!" That's okay. Don't mention "presumed innocent until proven guilty" to a modern feminist. It's misogynist. :P
/r/MensRights18/11/15 02:16 AM
1

We need to help men learn to say the "correct" things.
/r/MensRights17/11/15 11:54 PM
14

They tell me in /r/askreddit that this only happens due to "bad parenting."
/r/MensRights01/11/15 10:27 AM
4

"men have all the rights."
/r/MensRights29/10/15 06:10 PM
7

It would be one thing if they didn't routinely deny my reports of homophobic posts, threats of violence, and so on, like they can't even read.
/r/MensRights18/10/15 08:30 AM
4

Isn't it worth noting however that women who focus on career and don't spend the traditionally determined mother time at home with children are called bad mothers?
/r/MensRights12/10/15 08:25 PM
2

But if she was immature and therefore legally young enough to legally have sex with an 11 year old boy, didn't the father therefore commit "legally" statutory rape?
/r/MensRights05/10/15 09:24 PM
3

“Some women can be incredibly prejudiced against other women.” Been saying this for years. I suggest that quite an awful lot of what is termed misogyny is instigated by other women, and only picked up on by men secondhand. Just take Ayn Rand's insufficiently famous "a woman could never be president" quote, or Mrs. Tim LaHaye (he of Left Behind fame)'s Concerned Women for America, which encourages women to eschew careers and stay home and be good wives and moms (never mind that she runs said orga…
/r/MensRights01/10/15 01:07 AM
3

NO MEANS NO YES MEANS NO BASICALLY JUST NO EXCEPT WHEN YES AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT IS, YOU'RE STUPID
/r/MensRights17/09/15 11:46 PM
1

men have nursed profound, troubling doubts about the fundamental question of whether or not they were fathers to their own children; women, by contrast, usually enjoyed a reasonable level of certainty about the matter. Women always know they are the father!
/r/MensRights15/09/15 11:52 PM
1

OMG HE HIT HER
/r/MensRights14/09/15 11:01 PM
8

She didn't say anything about him being a man or him treating her different for being female, he pointed out she usually is happy and she answered why, I really love how identity politics causes people to completely fucking make shit up and paint it in their color. It makes them no better than conservatrolls. They really ought to have a Fox News for feminism where every single news story is men's fault instead of Obama's fault. Heck, Obama is a man, so they could even snipe Fox's material direct…
/r/MensRights14/09/15 06:53 AM
2

In Soviet America, we don't talk about the widespread commonality of male genital mutilation, that's too offensive to non-males. :P
/r/MensRights09/09/15 06:17 AM
2

That's because showing a count is not the point of the top graph. You want a specific graph that does a specific thing, and because this graph's job is not to do that specific thing, you're calling it misleading. The statement "women are disproportionately murdered in the workplace" is exactly what that graph accurately illustrates. If it was two pie charts, it would mean the same exact thing and not be misleading either. X percent of women who die in the workplace are murdered, and that percent…
/r/MensRights29/08/15 04:19 AM
0

Oh for fuck's sake, at the very top there's a percent sign, and the axis goes from 0 to 100! You don't need fancy math larnin' to get it, you just need eyes!
/r/MensRights29/08/15 04:06 AM
2

I think it's a bit of a stretch to argue that it is intentionally misleading. That some people aren't very smart may misunderstands and misrepresent it is another matter. This is essentially the same thing as presenting the data as two pie charts. In both cases the graphs show percentages, not totals. The chart axes indicate this too. If people aren't smart enough to read charts, that's their own failings. If you were illiterate, would you fault the world for making all those books? And more to …
/r/MensRights29/08/15 01:19 AM
1

down the hall at the end and to the left 90 degrees counterclockwise
/r/MensRights26/08/15 06:53 AM
0

We can't make school remotely interesting, so we have to make everything else as uninteresting as possible. Just put everyone (boys AND girls) in burkas and be done with it already.
/r/MensRights22/08/15 09:37 AM
1

Oh come on, isn't this "the talk?" "Son, when you get that feelin' in yer britches, go grab yerself a female." /r/neverhadthetalk
/r/MensRights22/08/15 09:35 AM
1

Pointless whinging without details. You don't think that quite a lot of people in other movements don't do exactly the same when faced with discrimination? A bakery won't sell a cake to a gay wedding? A golf course won't admit black members? Damn straight there's consequences for discrimination, and should be.
/r/MensRights12/08/15 11:47 PM
2

So even though our culture has changed to stop eye-raping you, it still somehow is forcing you to want the attention?
/r/MensRights20/07/15 10:01 PM
12

The last time I suggested that suicides should be left to get on with it, I received a small number of letters from people whose sons had killed themselves. All of them demanded an apology. I'd advise them this time to save their stamps because, you see, I don't care.
/r/MensRights03/07/15 03:00 AM
4

Because writing is not an art and thus writers are not artists and thus she is not at all hoist by her own petard and effectively calling herself a dick. I guess since she's not an artist, then she doesn't have to abide by the "do whatever art people want you to do" Rule Of Arting, and can write whatever crap she wants. How liberating not to be a creative person of any sort... Dan luh-hiterally paused, As opposed to figuratively* pausing. Man, that's some top notch reporting here. *Sorry, that s…
/r/MensRights14/06/15 08:46 AM
2

Careful, careful, let's not harass anyone here, you know what happens to subreddits when they violate the cultural revolution... (they go to ban gulag)
/r/MensRights14/06/15 08:43 AM
-3

"How do you write women so perfectly?" "I start with a man, and then I remove reason, and accountability."
/r/MensRights14/06/15 08:42 AM
5

Doesn’t get what she wants Cries and whines about it Goes and insults a dozen other completely unrelated people over it Thinks everytime she doesn’t get what she wants it’s part of the insidious male agenda Totally deserves to be treated seriously like an adult Not
/r/MensRights14/06/15 08:41 AM
6

"sitting on a dude sure is satisfying" o_o
/r/MensRights07/06/15 07:59 AM
-1

I'm starting to think Nungesser is in on it. IDK what his angle is, or if he expects to be exonerated at the end and it will be all worth it, like a huge twisted Kaufmanesque stunt. Like Kaufman and Lawler, in fact.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 07:47 AM
1

TBF it was because of the gun, not because of the penis.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 07:41 AM
14

Simon claimed that she was a victim This is only mention of Simon being a victim, and it's a straight reporting of what she says, nothing more.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 12:00 AM
6

"I wanted our children to grow up and remain children" grow up and remain children grow up remain children
/r/MensRights06/06/15 11:51 PM
11

Sometimes "respect" means "never disagree with," or "never disobey," I guess.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 11:49 PM
5

It's retarded. If anything nerdy men should be easy allies. Instead they become easy targets. Easy scapegoats. All evil of mankind is projected upon them. You'd think they were frat boy jock jarheads instead of nerds, the way vitriol is expended on them. It does nothing to stop rape culture, either, nor does it do anything to improve gender equality or disrupt gender norms -- if anything, it reinforces them.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 11:48 PM
3

Why is there another set of subtitles under the captions that say things like "You're a violent cheat" and "I hope the baby's mine" ? o_o
/r/MensRights05/06/15 08:56 AM
-2

"naturally competitive" Kind of implies that boys will be boys. And that girls aren't competitive.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 09:22 AM
5

I do like the idea of "WRA" as a term that can be used to distinguish between a gender-egalitarian view versus the... adversarial version.
/r/MensRights24/04/15 08:59 AM
1

I'm not sure there really is one answer. Then again, I also don't think there really is one answer to "what is feminism," despite repeated insistences that there is. I don't know what I call it, I prefer to think of myself as a gender egalitarian, because I feel that men standing up for themselves is not a bad thing, pointing out female privilege is not a bad thing, women acknowledging (and not dismissing or belittling) men's perspectives would be a positive thing. Rasenth put it well, in a much…
/r/MensRights07/02/15 03:37 AM
4

I don't even understand the presumption. I mean, in reality, it's that people don't really give a fuck if people move for them, they just plow ahead through people. This notion that men expect women to move for them is predicated on the belief that people care about not slamming into people. They don't. Life is like a football running play. If someone is in your way, push through.
/r/MensRights12/01/15 05:02 AM
1

You mean like why women can't fully understand the male experience and therefore shouldn't attempt to define it for us? Why we need to have men defining the male experience (and women defining the female experience) rather than have those with zero first hand knowledge of either existence calling the shots for everyone? Seriously, go back to free republic and stop trolling here.
/r/MensRights09/01/15 09:12 PM
1

Not being able to reach perfection, and therefore we should not try for nor expect better, is a strawman fallacy.
/r/MensRights09/01/15 08:48 PM
1

You know, it occurs to me that, due to most interests across both the gender and traditionalist spectra, if even just the sexual calculus of selective service were successfully challenged, the end result would be that TPTB would just abolish it. Win win.
/r/MensRights08/01/15 07:40 PM
1

Well, that's also a problem, and I don't know that I can fault any given criticism for not including all issues. There's also the problem that in this day and age, campaigning is ridiculously expensive, and it becomes prohibitively difficult if not nigh impossible for a non-rich person to win a federal election. You either need to be rich, or know lots of rich people. There are those of course that would argue that socioeconomic general correlations between gender/race/heritage and wealth causes…
/r/MensRights08/01/15 07:38 PM
4

FWIW, in the last election, I supported an Asian female over a white male, a Filipino male over a white female, and a black male over a white male. So there's that. Somehow it didn't solve the problem that the Congress' makeup doesn't reflect the country's, though.
/r/MensRights08/01/15 07:32 PM
22

I think that what the image is pointing out is a problem, where you find offense is in the presumption of blame. But the image doesn't lay any blame that I see, except perhaps on the cultural solipsism of a highly homogeneous legislature that even by your numbers does not socioeconomically represent the people they are supposed to be representing. No matter whose fault it is, it's still a problem.
/r/MensRights08/01/15 12:07 PM
1

Meh, I already signed up years ago and am too old, I think, to be drafted anyway. Hell, I'm probably 4F anyway. I don't have standing. Someone who is 18-26 would. Also someone who didn't sign up and is now being denied something as a result (and can't sign up now).
/r/MensRights08/01/15 02:03 AM
6

Yes, that was all before 2013. Read the bottom of that page you linked. The Supreme Court determined in the 70s/80s that the whole reason SS was not discriminatory was that (basically) the military was discriminatory, in that it wouldn't put women in combat. That's changed.
/r/MensRights06/01/15 11:37 PM
3

It seems girls need more protection than boys. This has been the rule of patriarchy for centuries. Somehow even in extreme feminism this hasn't changed. I didn't see or hear the feminist movement cheering over allowing women into combat, and I doubt I will see or hear them cheer over making women sign up for selective service and potentially be conscripted. (It's only a matter of time IMO. It's mind-boggling this hasn't already been challenged, since the one reason why it was allowed to continue…
/r/MensRights06/01/15 09:44 PM
1

Oops, that's what I meant. Edit: It's hard to find on the actual site. It seems to be buried in a two-year-old issue of their magazine (which appears to be only online). They don't list any explicitly gender politics sites anywhere on their lists right now that I see. Interesting.
/r/MensRights31/12/14 12:38 PM
4

It's actually about ethics in gender-politics journalism. * hides *
/r/MensRights31/12/14 11:16 AM
1

Good to know I can't use Twitter to say what I think about what someone else says. Good thing I don't tweet.
/r/MensRights31/12/14 11:14 AM
7

I'm a leftist gender egalitarian (and cautious non-partisan anti-b.s. crusader), but we don't have much of a movement to that end, so there's only this, SPLC's most poorly defined hate group.
/r/MensRights31/12/14 11:12 AM
1

I wrap my own fucking presents. I used to get dinged for doing it alone, or worse, doing it outside the home. But I've always wrapped my presents. I even buy my own presents (to people). Concept. (And yet here I am.)
/r/MensRights31/12/14 11:10 AM
1

In extremist enclaves and nations, rape is even a criminal punishment for convicted women. Often convicted for such "crimes" as involuntary adultery. But we're misogynists.
/r/MensRights30/12/14 09:28 PM
1

They are very careful never to mention that the shirt in question was made by an alt-fem woman friend of his whose day job is as a laboratory technician. And she was tickled to see her shirt on international news. And it was made with off-the-shelf fabric she bought at a regular craft store. No word on whether the makers of the fabric have been brought to tears.
/r/MensRights28/12/14 09:55 PM
3

Re AEI: It seems if you don't toe the line 100% you are automatically a libertarian pro-life pro-DP anti-gay pro-trickle-down tax-hating Obama-hating red state conservative. You're either with us or against us.
/r/MensRights28/12/14 09:40 AM
7

Her "trivial bullshit" quote made this subreddit a few weeks ago. I believe her example of "trivial bullshit" was "instead of talking about a great scientific achievement, we talked about what shirt a man is wearing."
/r/MensRights28/12/14 09:38 AM
0

Why do you think she was shot then?
/r/MensRights28/12/14 09:37 AM
2

But that would be blaming the non-victims!
/r/MensRights18/12/14 07:34 PM
1

The Independent edited their article to omit this detail.
/r/MensRights17/12/14 08:25 AM
0

Perhaps it is because no one cares when it's boys, just like no one / media cares when black girls go missing, but fawn over white girls. So instead of "boys" it's "children" because then you don't know. If they say "boys" less people will care. Girls are more precious because patriarchy and thus it's considered more tragic when girls die than when boys die. #checkyourprivilegetoo
/r/MensRights17/12/14 06:23 AM
5

I'm just gonna throw out there that the article's wording makes gross generalizations about women ("Women X because Y, Z, and W"...) based on a baker's dozen (out of what, ~3.5 billion in the world?) of bad eggs. Counterexamples are very valid, and relevant, but IMO it does no good to make mass generalizations from them.
/r/MensRights11/12/14 07:49 AM
1

Men have been told not to hit women. However, women have not been told not to hit men.
/r/MensRights08/12/14 03:31 AM
-1

How so? Comparing misandry to racism and showing the exact same presumtive mechanism at work?
/r/MensRights06/12/14 04:11 AM
15

It's actually about ethics in music journalism. (said without irony).
/r/MensRights06/12/14 12:59 AM
8

Um, I'm pretty sure slander involves things that aren't true. You're talking about a form of "slander" and "libel" that was used by the British King before a certain John Peter Zenger got the courts to agree that "libel" and "slander" meant false, not just embarassing.
/r/MensRights03/12/14 04:07 PM
5

victims "whose lives and reputations have been upended by a person they once trusted You mean like cheated on and broken up with and slandered to all his friends? No, of course they don't mean that.
/r/MensRights03/12/14 04:06 PM
1

Agreed. Often lost in this subreddit too I think. Not everyone sees it this way. I think it is too bad that it is "feminism" and "mensrights" and not just "same rights for both genders" i.e. gender equality / gender egalitarianism. That doesn't seem to have nearly as much cachet as the divisive terms.
/r/MensRights02/12/14 08:11 AM
8

They wanted evidence and proof and stuff! Just us saying it wasn't enough for them.
/r/MensRights02/12/14 08:08 AM
1

If you mean AS, then, it kind of floors me that she rejects "making her own game" as being completely out of the question and simply impractical. It doesn't mean she has to learn to program or do 3D rendering or even ever play the thing. She could just write the storyline. She could show everyone just what exactly a game that meets her personal criteria would be. She could say to all the unnamed woman-hating game developers "See, this is how you do it." But that would require defining what it is…
/r/MensRights30/11/14 12:36 AM
2

Are there women soldiers among the enemy? Can you shoot them and kill them? WOMAN HATING SCUM
/r/MensRights30/11/14 12:32 AM
1

You can't even kill a single women in a game without it being sexist Yes, I do sense a very "we need more women and women-friendly (what does that even mean, if there is no such thing as exclusively female or exclusively male?) content in games" up against a "killing a woman in a game is misogyny." So if we have an FPS where you can play as a woman, and the enemy's soldiers are proportionally female (52%, right), then what? You can't shoot the enemy women soldiers because that would be sexism. B…
/r/MensRights30/11/14 12:31 AM
7

It occurs to me what would happen if someone made an FPS with female soldiers.... on both sides.
/r/MensRights29/11/14 02:59 AM
6

"The lack of a criminal charge will help her regain employment" Yeah no shit, not to mention lack of sex offender registration (IDK if AUS even has that, but still)
/r/MensRights23/11/14 12:18 PM
7

My ex was lamenting how people are more rude to her on things like holding doors, brushing past people, etc. I pointed out that that's exactly the sort of treatment men have always gotten. She objected, and even others at the table called BS. It came down to, she wanted people to stop being that way. It's like, do you want equality, or do you want to be treated well? Cause you can't get both. More recently she was upset because, after complaining that one of her coworkers is constantly talking o…
/r/MensRights24/09/14 06:41 AM
1

feminists and a huge chunk of the Internet are villainizing men unfairly and creating a culture where you’re no longer allowed to even voice your opinions without people getting angry- even if all of that is true ... we're still going to gaslight you exactly like this anyway, because we get more pussy for constantly dissing our fellow men.
/r/MensRights24/09/14 05:46 AM
0

I'm becoming slowly more and more convinced that the smart move for any male member of the species is to avoid females like the plague. No place is safe. No interaction is safe. No word or movement is safe. You are wrong.
/r/MensRights24/09/14 05:31 AM
-13

The War On Women is all the men insisting there is no War On Women.
/r/MensRights24/09/14 05:25 AM
1

I mean the boyfriends that Kelly Brook loves to laugh about hitting.
/r/MensRights21/09/14 09:53 PM
2

Where are the husbands boyfriends that Kelly Brook hit? I want to hear from them.
/r/MensRights21/09/14 08:40 AM
1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_male_circumcision
/r/MensRights19/09/14 07:14 PM
3

That's so that rabbis can perform it without a medical license, no doubt. If they were to make a law that gave only jewish religious clerics an exception, it would amount to a government endorsement of a religion. I'm sure judaism isn't the only religion that circumcises, either.
/r/MensRights18/09/14 09:09 PM
5

In other words, men have a higher breaking point, and put up with more things they hate, because while women are encouraged to "DTMFA", men are shamed into not abandoning their families, or to suck it up and deal, or that it's probably all their fault?
/r/MensRights18/09/14 08:02 AM
0

We interrupt your regularly scheduled anti-feminism to point out that the overarching paradigm is no different here than it has been in "journalism" for centuries if not millennia. In the 50s, for example, no media outlet wanting to stay alive would have ever criticized Joseph McCarthy for his witchhunting. (Yes, Edward R Murrow did, eventually, well after McCarthy was in decline.) In the 40s, no media outlet would have ever criticized an act of the President or the armed forces. Same was true i…
/r/MensRights20/08/14 05:14 PM
40

Usually they just kill the boys, so this is progress. Nobody gave a fuck about the dead boys, of course.
/r/MensRights16/08/14 06:55 PM
3

"for laughs" was maybe an exaggeration. It gets brushed off like nothing shortly thereafter. A scene or two later they are working side by side again like nothing happened, even though in this scene, he's completely upset about it.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 11:38 PM
5

Apparently movies about being raped are on the other side of the line from rape fantasies. They sure played off the rape scene in Super for laughs. pretty lightheartedly.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 10:29 PM
6

Man this place is getting trolly.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 04:54 PM
1

Except she explicitly makes reference to it and does not condone it any more than the norm.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 11:42 PM
2

I'm just going to sit here and watch the knee-jerkers attack a woman who is attacking mainstream feminism for, among other things, being unable to have a rational discussion, at least about this one topic. There is a fair amount of stuff, if a bit between the lines, in this article for the typical crowd here to be applauding, even if indirectly. But due to a bad headline and a lack of either reading comprehension, or of bothering to read the thing at all, the rabid folk are just reaching for the…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 11:40 PM
1

"I am just trying to provide for myself and my child." That is a new one. Defending immoral acts as being necessary to provide for something that doesn't exist yet <sup>*</sup> <sup>*</sup> I mean not even in the pro-life sense even!
/r/MensRights15/07/14 08:41 AM
2

The implication is that when you have an imbalance of gender in an industry, but it isn't complete, you have more sexual harassment complaints / cases. It's not entirely clear if he's implying that it's specifically because the imbalance is of more men than women, or if it's any imbalance at all. (Do male nurses get sexually harassed by virtue of the female imbalance in the field?) I don't know the guy, so I'm not one to attribute motive or ideology to his fairly empirical statement.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 08:39 AM
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That's not actually what the lawyer quoted in the article said. Not that I expect anyone to realize that. He said that harassment reports are higher in Silicon Valley because of male dominated culture. He didn't say this particular case was because of it.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 08:35 AM
2

It's not clear from the article whether or not the sitter was also charged. Might make a difference.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 01:28 AM
1

I expect it will take a federal challenge that reaches the Supreme Court by a man who is impacted by any of the negative consequences of not registering to see any change in the SSR. And what that change will be is unpredictable. While the Rostker_v._Goldberg case failed, it failed because, since women were not allowed in combat, it didn't matter that women didn't need to register with SSR, because women wouldn't be drafted, because drafts are specifically for raising combat forces, which women …
/r/MensRights01/07/14 01:54 AM
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A politician who opposes this can't stand up and say "well no because the media cares more about female body bags than male" Man, the level of naivete in this thread is mind boggling. You really don't think there aren't a good hundred or two politicians in Congress and elsewhere that would readily tug on the heartstrings of "seeing our daughters and mothers come home in body bags?" It's like you guys have never paid any attention to politics before.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 01:50 AM
6

I don't hear a lot about the second class status of women in the military being a huge feminist problem. Funny that.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 01:49 AM
1

Well, it sure does when they're injured by their relationship partners. Zing.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 01:48 AM
2

And here I thought this was supposedly a subreddit about gender equality and stuff, but time and time again it defaults to conservative reactionary chauvinism like this. Come on now.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 01:42 AM
2

You're endorsing a double standard for women and men in the military? Huh?
/r/MensRights01/07/14 01:41 AM
1

Draft is specifically for combat. Selective Service exists to make the draft possible.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 01:41 AM
7

if it ever returns the opposition will be extreme Sorry, but that sounds horribly naïve. How soon we forget the sort of national fervor that gripped this country as recently as 12 years ago. All it takes is the right sort of attack. Whether it's Pearl Harbor, or whether it's WTC, the nation is more than willing to become war hawks overnight. It takes years before the calls to end a war come from a majority of the people -- and even longer for those calls to become a majority of Congress. The US …
/r/MensRights01/07/14 01:40 AM
1

The whole point of selective service is to be able to have a draft if needed.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 01:15 AM
2

No, not really. I posted something else to someone along the lines of "wait, do you really mean that?" and then in response to someone going on about how we must assume all rape/abuse complaints are truthful until they can be disproven beyond doubt, I said something like "i dunno, in our country we have a principle of innocent until proven guilty, and I think that's very important."
/r/MensRights24/06/14 12:33 AM
48

Innocent until proven guilty? I mentioned that once on SRS. I got banned for it.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 05:17 PM
2

"some way, some how, he is cheating on you." "i am redefining what 'cheating' means to include anything a man might do that i/you don't like."
/r/MensRights23/06/14 07:36 AM
21

When it's a ridiculous / wacko anti-male position, it's a "hoax." When it's a ridiculous / wacko anti-female position, it's "typical of fedora-wearing MRAs"
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:38 PM
0

Yeah, I find it hard to get choked up about someone trying to get George Will fired. I never understood why Newsweek kept his half-baked neo-Randian shit in their pages.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 03:29 PM
7

Is anyone here against more women working in traditionally male professions? Doesn't that make us pretty damned feminist? Wtf. I would not be surprised if the canonical response to that would be "expecting women to take on dangerous jobs is misogynistic!" Can't win for losing.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 01:32 AM
3

Hey, you know, if you are over 26, and you never signed up for selective service, guess what? You're fucked for life. In an increasing number of states, you can't get a driver's license, you can't get student loans, and a whole host of other shit that is completely denied to you, and there is fuck all you can do about it. We're talking about the program for making it possible to have a military draft. We've had, what, two drafts in history? WWII and Vietnam. Meaning it's been 40 plus years since…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 01:30 AM
12

I think the solution is to continue to make the point until they are better acknowledged and people are encouraged to push for these changes. That goes for everyone.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 01:25 AM
3

It is kind of interesting that for all the talk, there hasn't been (until relatively recently) any push that I could see to encourage women to take roles in traditionally male-dominated areas, such as technology or engineering. I have seen a fair number of women on construction sites. Not a single one was operating heavy machinery or doing heavy lifting or physical exertion. They are either holding signs (not a fun job, I'm sure, and I also hear, rather dangerous since you're basically standing …
/r/MensRights13/06/14 01:23 AM
1

Well, clearly men are less desirable options for custody since they are so much more likely to die... :I
/r/MensRights13/06/14 01:19 AM
2

I wanted to see #YesMenToo.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 05:22 PM
22

I think that's why /r/femradebates was created.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 09:39 PM
1

SRS is that way, at least IME, for only asking questions. Not even pointed leading questions. Just "Wait, are you saying?" questions.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 09:39 PM
1

/r/genderegalitarian
/r/MensRights29/05/14 09:38 PM
1

I think I saw this plot on an episode of The Blacklist.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 09:05 PM
1

This seems like a good thing to me for all concerned. Well, except in as much as the guy seems to have changed his mind well after the fact, but honestly that ship had sailed. The original action was in error, this action corrected it.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 06:29 PM
3

Ironic that the object of undoubtedly many NAFALT retorts backs the assertion that, basically, NAFALT cannot possibly be true, because there is one and only one "feminism." If you argue NAFALT, you argue that not all feminists are the same kind of feminists, which implies different types of feminists, which SecWo flatly rejects, and moreover declares "is not a topic for debate.”
/r/MensRights17/12/13 01:00 AM
2

Not you.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 07:31 PM
1

There are, in fact, schisms of Catholics that do not and have not supported the Roman See for decades. For example, the CMRI. Still Catholics, but not the same Catholics as the ones that follow the Pope. Kind of like the U.S. Civil War. Two "Americas", but not at all the same.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 07:23 PM
1

Okay, but calling yourself an MRA while other MRAs are being vitrolic misogynists has the same effect on you. As a soldier you can insist that you oppose your fellow soldiers actions all you want, but you're still wearing their uniform, and the pissed off enemy is still going to shoot you. Why you don't seem to accept that the converse of what you are asserting is applicable directly to you in the exact same way is mind-boggling. You tried to make the excuse previously that "yes but I call that …
/r/MensRights03/12/13 07:18 PM
0

Amazed at the number of MRs who can't distinguish between functional differences and structural differences. No, feminists and MRs don't believe the same things, generally. Yes, they act about the exact same towards each other and regarding their own gender's issues. Feminism : ♀ :: MRM : ♂ is OP's point.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 07:14 PM
2

inb4 "saying women are inferior to men is not misogyny"
/r/MensRights03/12/13 07:11 PM
1

some feminists believe X therefore all feminists believe X some feminists hate men therefore all feminists hate men some feminists suck therefore all feminists suck The best way to win over your counterparts is to demonize them! See, this is why we're doomed.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 07:10 PM
1

This
/r/MensRights03/12/13 07:07 PM
1

It starts out "I'm all very reasonable and egalitarian... now allow me to make sweeping generalizations and absolute blanket assertions without even so much as anecdotal evidence". Yeah, real solid. :P
/r/MensRights03/12/13 07:07 PM
1

Hey guys (I'm looking at you, /r/mr), just a thought, coming in and dogpiling DVs and logical fallacies on the sympathetic feminist isn't exactly the underpinnings of rational discourse. Jussayin.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 09:45 AM
2

When the blame game ends, and the board put away, the common ground will be exposed.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 09:43 AM
1

I feel bad that you are trying to be sympathetic and the knee-jerks are shitting all over you for petty bullshit reasons. Of course, as a GE who sees a fair amount of legitimate mens issues out there, I get similarly shit on -- often by both sides -- for not conforming to their particular dogma. I mean, here above you is a guy saying "well MRA is totally different because feminism has an ideological belief" denying of course that MRA has any sort of ideological belief in equal measure. So either…
/r/MensRights03/12/13 09:42 AM
2

By that token, everyone who posts in /r/mensrights should be called into account for the knee-jerk misogynist vitriol (call it what you want, but it's there, and frequently) that commonly finds root there. Anyway, no thanks.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 09:38 AM
1

Yeah, you're going to get a lot of that (sigh)
/r/MensRights03/12/13 09:37 AM
0

civil language dogmatic bigots spread lies propagate myths I think I missed the civil part. Is name-calling and accusation considered "civil" now? Are we on freep?
/r/MensRights03/12/13 09:36 AM
3

It's fair to say, I think, that "patriarchy" does seem to be a male-demonizing term. Patriarchy is the problem. Patriarchy means rule by men. Therefore the men that are ruling are the problem. Well, not necessarily, but it can certainly be construed that way if you deconstruct the term lexically.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 09:35 AM
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feminist theory is based in the patriarchy, but there is no evidence for it There's a nit to pick here IMO, and that is whether you are arguing based on the etymological suitability of a given word for a phenomenon, and the existence of that phenomenon irrespective of what you call it. I mean, whether or not you call it "patriarchy", there is a status quo, and it has (inequally proportioned, but nonetheless existent) negatives for both genders. Feminism generally calls it "patriarchy" (and can y…
/r/MensRights03/12/13 09:32 AM
1

I don't agree with the sentiment of "we can't find common ground" from an overall perspective, but I see that MRA perceives some sect or faction or representatives of quote-on-quote "feminism" as being hostile to the acknowledgement and sympathizing with MRA issues. (If e.g. /r/mensrights could focus on pointing out and exposing that, rather than focusing only on anecdotal incidents, it might do some good in the "common ground" category.) Of course, there is a lot of plain old woman-hating in /r…
/r/MensRights03/12/13 09:22 AM
1

castrations
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:45 PM
0

That's what "pedantic" means. HTH.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:45 PM
0

Are you being obtuse?
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:41 PM
1

It loses its relationship with real life, I think, if the example it uses isn't one that is based in real life. I do get the point, but the comic loses relevance by basing its joke in something that doesn't make sense.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:40 PM
0

At the risk of being pedantic, condoms are birth control. I know you meant "The Pill", but "birth control" really includes a lot of things (not just the pill, but also diaphrams, depoprovera, iuds, etc.)
/r/MensRights11/11/13 03:03 PM
-1

this new system Hi, welcome to the new system, also known as the fox-news-bullshit-free real world.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 03:01 PM
133

Yeah, the reactionary conservative undertow of the worst of this subreddit is summed up in the first panel.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 02:59 PM
3

I dislike being branded, labeled, pigeonholed, stereotyped, and dismissed because I subscribe to and sometimes comment on /r/MR. I consider myself a objective gender egalitarian and find that sometimes /r/MR has some valid material. How some of the regulars and more vocal types who tend towards the misogynistic or at very lest sexually bitter (and I'm no saint) treat those valid materials is another matter. I dispute that the SPLC has branded a forum a hate group. For starters, it's not a "group…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 11:10 PM
-5

gender is a social construct woman cupcake woman = emotional kay.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:14 PM
2

After some thought I'm guessing it's a wage gap reference. Women make less, so they should pay less, would be the line of thought I imagine.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 05:12 PM
7

She posted a story where she was included as a character? Not wrote it herself?
/r/MensRights17/10/13 10:00 PM
1

It's a good question and I have to concede that in your example, and assuming that for whatever reason the person asked has not said no at least one of those times, that that amount of repeatedly asking is far too much. I don't know if the guy in the story was being like that, and I guess we'll never really know, but at least from his side of the story, he wasn't.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 01:08 AM
2

Meh. I'm already banned from half a dozen SRS related subs for asking similar challenging questions. What more can they do to me? :)
/r/MensRights11/10/13 01:02 AM
1

If the guy had just gone down on the girl, the way she went down on him -- without any question or acquisition of consent -- would it have been rape? (crickets)
/r/MensRights10/10/13 11:25 PM
1

I don't disagree, but they are not the same thing. I'm sure some people would like this to be much more clear cut -- in different directions based on perspectives -- but I'm afraid I simply don't think it is. Presume nothing. "just 'cause I am sucking your dick/eating you out, does not mean I wanna fuck you." True. "sucking your dick/eating you out might indicate I am willing to do [other] sexual things." Also true. The question is which IS the case, not what MIGHT or might NOT be the case. And …
/r/MensRights10/10/13 11:14 PM
1

yeah, I pretty much agree. But the distinction, yet subtle, is important. While sucking dick is not a "yes", it's not a "no" to everything else. In other words, presumption of consent is not reasonable, and likewise, I think neither is presumption of rejection. That correlation may or may not be controversial...
/r/MensRights10/10/13 11:07 PM
1

I don't know, but I also don't think it matters. It happens, but worrying about how often it happens will lead you to make conclusions based on statistics instead of on individual merits.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 11:02 PM
1

she only says yes to shut you up, Aside from the broader issue of consent, is this really a good thing to do? Is it defensible? Is it something that should be considered acceptable course of action? I think you do need to say no when you mean no. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that if there is a tendency for women to "give in" and "agree" to something they don't really agree to, only because they want to avoid some other annoyance ("shut you up" or "avoid conflict"), the only reason that happe…
/r/MensRights10/10/13 10:54 PM
3

Yeah, this is something that I still have trouble with. If it's rape to come on to your partner without an explicit "yes", but it's a dominance-oriented power-play of emotional neglect not to come onto your partner, then WTFF.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 10:48 PM
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I don't have a problem with a man or woman saying "no, stop" mid course. As long as you are clear and unambiguous... I don't think if you mutter "stop" under your breath or mid-gasp and only once that OMG RAPE because, fuck, sometimes people might not hear you. Especially if their mind is focused on, you know, sex. I think the only way you can rationally think otherwise is to have never had sex or to have only had crappy sex (or to have numb sexual sensation, or something) and think it completel…
/r/MensRights10/10/13 10:44 PM
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Oral sex is exactly the thing that Bill Clinton was impeached for saying wasn't sex. So it's sex. EOD. It's not the same sex as proper intercourse, and not all sex is created (or consented to) equally, but it's still a form of sex.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 10:34 PM
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Logic and reason are masculine insensitivity used to legitimize raep.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 10:32 PM
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It's arguable. She did not ask for nor receive enthusiastic consent for her sexual approach and act. Is the rape-culture argument that an erect penis is implied consent? Because this is the same position that argues that erect nipples and wet labia are not. That's not equal.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 10:31 PM
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TELL ME YOUR SECRETS. I can't get even much less contentiously abusive / offensive stuff taken down.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 07:40 PM
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Can anyone seriously say "just 'cause I am sucking your dick/eating you out, does not mean I wanna fuck you?" Well, yes. You can have limits and boundaries at different levels of intimacy. I would actually have to agree that it's wrong to assume there are no boundaries in between "nothing" and "everything". "She let me grab her breast, therefore sex is okay." It's just a matter of degree. Heck, even if you are having PIV sex, I'd argue you shouldn't assume from that fact that anal is also okay. …
/r/MensRights10/10/13 07:06 PM
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Red Cross Green Peace I never noticed before how those were such lexical opposites.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 12:47 AM
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There is a not entirely unreasonable fear that providing credence to competing movements will distract from their own. I say not entirely unreasonable because historically that would be seen as giving ground and weakening their effectiveness. Whether that's as true now as it once was is probably worth discussing.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 12:38 AM
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Can we have both? Er, that is to say, all? Can't we have feminism, MRA, and GE, all at the same time? If I had to pick I'd choose egalitarian over divisionism. But sociopolitical positions must necessarily be realistic and pragmatic in order to be reasonable IMO. So I can't expect that such a thing will become the dominant paradigm anytime soon. It also seems to me that as time marches on, old divisions are replaced by new ones. In the 1700s it was whites vs. Indians, in the 1800s and 1900s it w…
/r/MensRights10/10/13 12:32 AM
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Well, the answer to that is by "others" that is to say (as you do) "majorities" aka majority social groups, is that in order to be equally free to live your life as you see fit, and have that be accepted by those around you, particularly when your social group differs from the majority group in numerous historic, cultural, economic, moral, familial, and sociopolitical ways, requires that you surround yourself with people who already accept those characteristics of you because they already share …
/r/MensRights10/10/13 12:26 AM
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Yes, but the general sentiment is that historically and to significant extent some even still today (YMMV depending on where you are in the world and if you live in an urban vs. suburban vs. rural vs. tribal setting) those humanitarian issues have been disproportionately denied to females versus males. I really don't have an issue with that sentiment, I just don't agree that it means that we should lose sight of the more diverse, less common legitimate cases where they are denied to males as wel…
/r/MensRights10/10/13 12:21 AM
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I don't know if it implies that feminism and/or gender equality are somehow therefore unnecessary, but it's a valid question to ask whether all rape is created equal.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 05:41 AM
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Being racist isn't illegal, but acting against someone because of their race (like attacking them, firing them, denying them a job or an apartment, advocating violence against them, etc.) typically is illegal.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 11:02 PM
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I presume it has something to do with his estranged ex-maybe-wife. Way I heard it, Bill asked her out, they got married, bought a house together, then found out the marriage was invalid and he kicked her out. She proceeded to kind of flip out. She seems like a nice enough woman, and Bill's never told a very thorough story of his version of events. I don't think it was a good idea for her to try and kill the house's front garden, kinda crazy, but no less crazy for Bill to then claim that she was …
/r/MensRights10/08/13 05:17 AM
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No love for those on /r/atheism that I've seen. If you are an atheist because you hate going to church, or hate being a good person, or didn't like the Reverend, or started hanging out with atheist friends and wanted to be like them (this exact scenario came up a few months ago iirc), you're liable to get a thorough critique.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 01:58 AM
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See Junior, what you did there is challenge the dominant generalization among the less affable around here. Such talk is liable to git yer a downvotin'!
/r/MensRights10/08/13 01:44 AM
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You... You do realize you are refuting my assertion by doing the exact same thing again, right?
/r/MensRights10/08/13 01:41 AM
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Noted. But, see, that's the sort of stuff I was talking about before. It ought to be better than just neener-neener bitterness and "two can play that game."
/r/MensRights10/08/13 01:38 AM
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I'm also not sure what the law barring men talking in elevators to women they find attractive about coming to their hotel room is. I don't think there is one. If RW etc. want one, it would probably behoove them to work those channels to make that happen. Dunno how I feel about a gender-biased law that says gender Y can't talk to gender X about a given topic. I might feel slightly better about a law that says no one can talk to anyone else about a given topic, but not much. It's not that people c…
/r/MensRights09/08/13 07:01 PM
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Yes, that would be the appropriate action to take -- not public accusation, shaming, demagoguery, and dragging through the mud. Then, if those investigations turn up nothing, everything will be fine. </s>
/r/MensRights09/08/13 06:56 PM
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twatson MRM, being the better people since never.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 06:54 PM
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Still makes no sense, but TFT. It's like there was some sort of One True Atheism before that. Well, there wasn't. I mean, you have the whole spread from agnostic "atheist" to antitheist in the "atheist movement", never mind the atheists that think that life might live on other planets because statistical unlikeliness of our uniqueness vs. those who don't because there's no evidence, etc. So now you have feminist athieism, or perhaps it's actually atheist feminism, as a new angle. I guess when yo…
/r/MensRights09/08/13 06:37 PM
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As long as it doesn't resort to ad hominems and name calling and discrimination and preconceptions and affirming the consequent and... everything /r/mr does, pretty much. :P
/r/MensRights09/08/13 06:33 PM
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implying there is one single solitary "movement" or personal definition of term as applied to oneself
/r/MensRights09/08/13 05:40 PM
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It's true, nerd/geek circles have traditionally been very insular and maintained a high bar of entry, ostensibly to keep out people who would seek to mock them, though also to keep out people who do not sufficiently share their interests or meet their knowledge level and would be tedious and annoying/boring. I've been kept out of such circles by such bars. And yet I was always for a long time too nerdy/geeky for non-nerdy groups. It was very FML for a while.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 05:39 PM
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DCFTW I didn't even have to click it to know what it was.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 05:31 PM
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Well if you did fake it, it's not like you would admit it wasn't legitimate :) Honestly the only fake geek girls I've run into are the ones in logoed gear working large con booths. not that all or most girls at con booths are fake geeks by any means
/r/MensRights09/08/13 05:29 PM
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#nothingtoprove
/r/MensRights09/08/13 05:25 PM
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What I don't get is when feminists insist that men cannot possibly know what women go through (which is likely true), but then turn around and also insist that they know exactly what men go through. That's not equal.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 12:44 AM
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