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Ok yeah, that's a fair point. I'm with you on that. Can we agree that it's pointless and neckbeardy to resent her and whine about it?
/r/seduction14/08/15 09:09 PM
4

Bro, most guys give shitty advice too. The only big revelation here is that women don't automatically know how to run game. Some of them are pretty sharp, and yeah, I do know quite a few girls who know what's up. Not at all clear why that's not a valid point. But that's not why this is TRPy at all, it's TRPy because OP's second paragraph oozes resentment at not being considered "good enough." He blames the girl for his own failure to interest her sexually. He implies that she's some deceptive bi…
/r/seduction14/08/15 08:52 PM
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No, take advice from anyone who's nice enough to offer it. Evaluate how reliable it is, add it to the information you have, and use your judgment to choose the best course. Women are one of the most important sources of information you have access to. They don't automatically know how game works unless they've studied the behavioral science, but they know at least as much as the random chump on the next barstool. They have their own cognitive biases just like guys do, but they can give you data …
/r/seduction14/08/15 06:55 PM
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Having sex with someone who's had a glass or two of wine is perfectly fine. Having sex with someone who's so totally blasted they can't think or make sound decisions is rape. There's really a huge difference between the two, and it's not hard to tell which is which. The whole premise of this question comes from the OP not understanding the law, or for that matter, what's appropriate for this sub.
/r/seduction12/07/15 07:39 AM
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"Okay, don't tell anyone I told you this, but...I'm actually a spy. Wait, you have clearance, right?" Or really any silly answer, but this sort of thing is good because it gives you an inside joke you can play off of. You should be ready to redirect any question you're not prepared for with a flirty joke, preferably without skipping a beat.
/r/seduction06/05/15 12:21 PM
2

If you do it as a mental trick and don't actually believe it, it's still wrong? Please explain your reasoning.
/r/seduction03/11/14 05:15 AM
2

Dude, I had a girl be almost (maybe not quite) this forward with me in the same situation. TL;DR I spent two days fucking the shit out of her in a hotel room she paid for. Parted friends, could have called her up and invited her down any time I wanted (she lived in a different city). The only reason I didn't was that I got a GF shortly after. If there's one thing Seddit has taught me, it's to be confident and not assume everything is too good to be true. Be safe, be cautious, but don't end up wo…
/r/seduction28/07/14 12:59 AM
3

This is the correct answer. Don't end up wondering, OP.
/r/seduction27/07/14 06:37 PM
4

Why the fuck are people downvoting this?
/r/seduction02/02/14 04:57 PM
3

Seems like that might be a good thing to bring up beforehand. "By the way, make sure the guy you send doesn't mind fucking in shit."
/r/TheRedPill07/08/13 10:29 PM
1

For those of us in America (you sound like you're from the UK), what is a "bollocking"?
/r/TheRedPill07/08/13 10:25 PM
3

It does if she doesn't understand you. How common is it for Japanese girls to be fluent in English? Not a rhetorical question, I really don't know.
/r/seduction30/03/13 03:07 PM
5

It's all in the energy they're putting out. If they look thrilled and enthusiastic to see you, even if you know that's part of the joke, it's hard not to get swept up in it.
/r/seduction10/03/13 01:20 PM
13

Remember to bring some eyewash if you use this line. You'll need it for the pepper spray.
/r/seduction10/03/13 06:56 AM
13

Are we talking about a girl you just met 5 seconds ago, or have you built up a HUGE level of comfort? Actually, let me just go ahead and say it's a terrible idea.
/r/seduction10/03/13 06:55 AM
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Works especially well if you give her an exaggerated "heeyyyyy!" as though bumping into your long-lost best friend. Most of they time, they'll play along.
/r/seduction10/03/13 06:52 AM
2

Work on your delivery. Not all of them are gold (I didn't like the texting one), but there are a lot that would work great if you have good delivery and timing, and most importantly are confident. It doesn't matter if they're corny, they're still funny and surprising.
/r/seduction10/03/13 06:48 AM
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Early thirties, Washington DC. Don't underestimate the ageless sophistication of Pick-Up Line Panda.
/r/seduction06/03/13 04:53 PM
9

Disagree. I have had excellent results with Pick-Up Line Panda.
/r/seduction05/03/13 08:27 AM
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"I like guys with money." I would have turned the fuck around and brought her home. No quality woman would ever say this.
/r/seduction10/01/13 04:12 PM
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What I'm getting at is, how do you end the date? Just say you had a good time and walk off? Do you usually get a vibe that your dates expect you to go for a kiss/etc., and how do they react when you don't? I've had dates where I didn't try to close for whatever reason, and it's seemed really awkward, like she'd expected me to make a move and it made things weird. At best, it inserted awkwardness into the situation; at worst, I got the sense I was coming off as a pussy. I'm not really sure how I'…
/r/seduction02/01/13 05:55 AM
2

Couldn't have said it better. Delivery and situation are paramount.
/r/seduction02/01/13 03:08 AM
2

Make that 3/3. I read the Ladder long ago but only consciously applied it once...I don't know why I stopped using it, because I was actually surprised how smooth and easy that f-close was.
/r/seduction02/01/13 03:07 AM
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Oh snap...I just got it. You're awesome.
/r/seduction02/01/13 02:58 AM
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What the fuck happened to all these posts?
/r/seduction02/01/13 02:57 AM
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I know, what the fuck? It's like a wasteland in here. Can anyone at least tell me if it was on-topic?
/r/seduction02/01/13 02:56 AM
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You say you don't kino more than a handshake until you've got her back at your place. How do you end the first date? Is that when you do the handshake? How do you avoid looking like you're too chicken to make a move?
/r/seduction02/01/13 02:52 AM
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I disagree. A guy who gets humiliated that bad by a guy with a deformity is probably going to cut his losses and slither away, rather than make it worse by being seen fighting the guy.
/r/seduction26/12/12 09:12 PM
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It might help you to watch some of Josh Blue's standup. He has cerebral palsy with very visible symptoms, but he owns it, jokes hard about it, and has a shitload of confidence. I guarantee you he gets massive amounts of pussy. I think the key is, if you bring it up/joke about it, make sure it doesn't seem like you're doing it out of self-consciousness or lack of confidence. Challenge people a little, show you're not afraid to unbalance them slightly, then let them mostly off the hook as you poin…
/r/seduction26/12/12 09:07 PM
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Sidebar material.
/r/seduction20/12/12 06:33 AM
1

Because I think "alpha as fuck" is extremely hard to pretend to be. You don't have to be Barney Stinson to portray Barney Stinson, but you do need that level of charisma, swagger, and poise. Obviously I can't back that up with proof, but if you could pretend to have Barney Stinson/Barack Obama/James Bond/Ryan Gosling level smoothness, we could just replace this whole subreddit with acting lessons.
/r/seduction04/12/12 10:59 PM
1

Wait...Daniel Craig is gay?! Edit: Nope, he's married to Rachel Weisz.
/r/seduction04/12/12 09:26 PM
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No, but he's alpha as fuck.
/r/seduction04/12/12 08:58 PM
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Yeah, NPH would like a word.
/r/seduction04/12/12 12:52 PM
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I think the real risk here is her looking through the laptop. I don't know about you guys, but the amount of porn on my non-work computer is staggering.
/r/seduction30/11/12 10:10 PM
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I would quibble with the idea of a specific sequence of words that will get her in bed if you can just find them. Your frame (including and especially delivery) plays a huge part. I won't use the popular Seddit meme that what you say doesn't matter, but I will say the nonverbal part of the conversation is more important than its content. If anyone doesn't believe me, look through all the Socially Awkward Penguin memes on /r/AdviceAnimals and imagine them coming from Sean Connery or Colin Farrell…
/r/seduction30/11/12 10:04 PM
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That was actually pretty funny. But you're supposed to say it like this: http://i.minus.com/ib1ZKkea8u123o.gif
/r/seduction25/11/12 05:16 AM
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Can you give me an example of good VM game? I've always seen it as beta/needy to bother leaving a vm, so I just hang up and (sometimes) text her instead.
/r/seduction25/11/12 05:11 AM
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Do you seriously think you can still win with the girl after that? How on Earth would you go about it? Serious question because I want to believe.
/r/seduction25/11/12 05:08 AM
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http://i.imgur.com/i9hPY.jpg Perhaps, but I think this and the "pet name" suggestion, while not necessarily the only or best advice (for pet names, that would be a personalized nickname that can be easily reciprocated), have been massively misunderstood in this thread. This might be OP's fault for not explaining them better. I see them as transition moves for late in the interaction, when you have lots of compliance and you're ready to amp things up. You also have to be extremely smooth and conf…
/r/seduction22/11/12 01:12 PM
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It's your delivery and her comfort level. You don't just lob this one out there five seconds after you meet her, dude. You wait until there's a lot of comfort and at least a little attraction, then you use this to transition into a more sexual conversation.
/r/seduction22/11/12 08:06 AM
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Delivery, delivery, delivery. A ton of the stuff in Strauss's and Mystery's and pretty much everybody's writing sounds canned, because it is--they're writing down something that's supposed to flow naturally as part of a conversation. I've always read them as giving a loose outline or talking point, not a script you're supposed to memorize word-for-word.
/r/seduction22/11/12 07:59 AM
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It completely depends on the frame and delivery, like OP said. I'd say it depends even more on the comfort level. Obviously you can't do that to someone you just met, but if you get her comfort level high and you've been flirting all night, you should be fine. That said, what beemeroo82, ortofon88, and others are touching on is something much more powerful and less risky: a personalized, teasy nickname that plays on something you know about her. This is dynamite for several reasons, and it's wor…
/r/seduction22/11/12 07:51 AM
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Delivery is everything with this line (and pretty much all of them, really).
/r/seduction24/09/12 04:15 AM
2

You're being downvoted, but you're right. Opening with a compliment is a risky tactic, and it's situation-dependent. I'd also point out that you're expressing a valid opinion in a respectful way. This subreddit is supposed to be full of uncomfortable truths, people, remember reddiquette.
/r/seduction24/09/12 04:11 AM
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http://i.minus.com/icoDmK.gif
/r/seduction24/09/12 04:03 AM
2

Porqué no los dos?
/r/seduction16/09/12 11:53 PM
1

Everywhere. Seriously, everywhere.
/r/seduction16/09/12 11:40 PM
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I actually thought I was inventing that line just now. Great minds, and all that.
/r/seduction15/09/12 02:52 PM
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Sparxxx's advice is great; also, they will ALWAYS shit test you about their age. Have a response ready and waiting: "How old are you?" "I'm twelve, actually. Don't tell anyone, I think they bought my fake ID" "You're too young for me" "I know, I'm like a helpless little lamb. You aren't the big bad wolf, are you?" "I'm too old for you" "No, you're supposed to say you're too hot for me. Omg, haven't you ever played this game before?" (eyeroll) Finally, her friends are much more important than usu…
/r/seduction15/09/12 07:47 AM
3

Tell them it's because they have a booger on their nose. Then play with them for a while as they try to get it off.
/r/seduction15/09/12 07:41 AM
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Please remember that doing this at the beginning of the interaction is not what anyone's suggesting. Compliance tests in general are for after you've been talking for a while, to see how well things are going and escalate the interaction further. If you do something that makes the girl feel like you're coming on too strong, or anything else that makes her uncomfortable, then you are Doing It Wrong. This subreddit is only about things that actually work.
/r/seduction15/09/12 07:32 AM
5

Ever been to SRS before? shudder
/r/seduction15/09/12 07:25 AM
2

It's all about the situation and your delivery.
/r/seduction15/09/12 07:24 AM
12

Yeah...no.
/r/seduction15/09/12 07:23 AM
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The "stabbed in the heart" thing is gold, but I would also give her an IOD afterward while you're at it. Turn away partially and talk to the others in the group. Don't be super obvious about it, and don't skip a beat, just seem to forget about her for a moment while you go back to charming her friends.
/r/seduction15/09/12 07:22 AM
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A compliance test doesn't require that you verbally ask. If she stops you, flinches, looks uncomfortable or angry, that's a no. If she smiles and happily goes along with it, that's compliance.
/r/seduction15/09/12 07:16 AM
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I could nevah date zee voman viss za haiah zat ish not shmellink goot to me, yah? Yah. Zo, now I vill be shmellink your haiah. Pleess not beink alahmed.
/r/seduction15/09/12 07:11 AM
1

Dude, she married him. I understand why it messed with you, I do, but try to look at it from the other direction: His personality was so exciting and fun that how he looked didn't matter anymore. Physically or not, she was still attracted to him--and massively so, so much that she wanted to marry the guy. Your dad had game, dude. Fuck yeah.
/r/seduction26/08/12 04:18 PM
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Actually, if it were a hobby, I would completely agree with you. Talking about your passion for WoW during a date? Great, why don't you have the waiter box up your balls along with the food? You're not going to need them any time soon, stud. OTOH, game development isn't a hobby at all, it's a profession. A damn good one, too: there is a TON of money in it these days, and the guys who write math-heavy stuff like 3-D shooters are fucking geniuses. Why should I get laid more just because I write da…
/r/seduction26/08/12 04:08 PM
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Hi there. You know, your dress reminds me of JavaScript: The closures just make it more interesting. I may just be an anonymous object to you now, but I think you'll find I have all the right methods. Why don't we have a drink in a less global context?
/r/seduction26/08/12 04:00 PM
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Dude, not the place for this.
/r/seduction26/08/12 03:36 PM
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I downvoted them for the same reason everyone else should: because Seddit is NOT THE PLACE for this discussion. We already have a place for that, it's called "the entire rest of the Internet".
/r/seduction26/08/12 03:35 PM
3

Dude, shut up! You want to help racists get laid?
/r/seduction26/08/12 03:31 PM
1

Agreed. Like I was saying, you can think of it as though you have an "attractiveness score," where looks, attitude, game, and everything else adds or subtracts from the total. It's not an absolute, because different girls (or dudes, if you prefer) give different weights to different things.
/r/seduction26/08/12 03:28 PM
0

Dude, let me give you a piece of enlightenment: If Ridiculously Photogenic Guy turned out to be socially awkward, whiny, needy, boring, beta, a pussy, or worst of all creepy in person, his attractiveness level would drop like a rock. He'd get approach invitations left and right, but once he opened his mouth he'd fuck it up for himself. He might still manage to close, but with 4s and 5s instead of 9s and 10s. IMHO that's what having game does for you: It adds points to your "score", so you can at…
/r/seduction25/08/12 02:41 PM
1

Ha! Oh, man, you've got me there.
/r/seduction23/08/12 01:29 AM
0

When you get your first creepy ex and/or stalker date, you'll know that feel, bro.
/r/seduction22/08/12 07:19 AM
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I'm curvy, 5'4", and am half Latin. Already my target market is limited Welp, either I'm completely out of touch with what other men like...or you are.
/r/seduction22/08/12 07:13 AM
0

That would NOT work on me. Even if I didn't assume she wanted to sell me something or put me on a spam list, I would find it off-putting. Why just assume I'll give it to you with zero investment on your part? I'd be insulted. And why skip the flirting? I fucking love flirting, it's the best part. Standards, bro. You need standards.
/r/seduction22/08/12 07:07 AM
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He didn't seem to think you were average.
/r/seduction22/08/12 07:01 AM
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You forgot: boring annoying clingy I've been on tons of dates with cute girls who just sucked the joy out of the conversation, couldn't let anyone else speak, talked shit about people, or had "stalker ex" written all over them. I still found them physically attractive, but I couldn't wait to get out of their presence, whether I sensed the option of an F-close or not.
/r/seduction22/08/12 06:53 AM
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I agree with everything you said right up until that last part: it's impossible to not be greatly successful as long as you're reasonably attractive. Totally untrue, girls can very easily be socially awkward, boring, annoying, or even creepy. It's not quite as common as with men, but that's less due to men being easy than it is to girls naturally having better social skills on average. Besides, the guy might not be single, or he might not think you're that cute, or he's so successful with women …
/r/seduction22/08/12 06:38 AM
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ANY British accent works like a charm abroad. People find pretty much any foreign accent sexy as fuck, as long as they don't hear it every day. Britons find American accents sexy too, although I don't know if it's more/less/as powerful as a British accent in America. For a fun experiment, practice an accent until you're believable, then do some approaches and see how it goes. Nearly all will help your chances, and a few (French, Australian, some versions of Spanish and Italian) will be like fish…
/r/seduction22/08/12 06:13 AM
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You know what I love about this? Sounds like you actually have really good game. You've done a great job picking it up. Also, this... it's basically for PUA whatever ding dong fiddly diddly ...was fucking hilarious. Anyway, thank you so much for posting this. Super fun reading, but more than that--I'm extremely curious about the experiment. I have no idea how it will play out. I hope you'll follow through with more [FR]s.
/r/seduction22/08/12 05:49 AM
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Have never heard that, but I might ask around. Actually, that would be a good topic for discussion in a club like that, and you can use her answer to decide whether to turn it into flirting. Anyway, the real solution is to figure out how to gauge a woman's openness to being approached, which is a big part of why we're here.
/r/seduction29/06/12 05:19 AM
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And that's the way you fucking do it, fellas.
/r/seduction29/06/12 04:16 AM
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Don't hit on girls who don't want to be hit on. That's true everywhere, and it's not like it's hard to pick them out.
/r/seduction29/06/12 04:08 AM
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Nobody was shaming anybody, though. I really don't get where you're seeing that. Other than that one idiot, who has like -8 right now.
/r/seduction29/06/12 04:05 AM
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Listen, I'm not attacking you either and I get where you're coming from, but this isn't the place for this discussion. Gender issues, and how people feel about them, are off-topic and distracting. Besides, we're talking about dating and attraction in the most frank, objective terms possible, and that means an unflinching discussion of biology, behavior, and instinct. The sexual parts of our brains don't know anything about hurting or protecting feelings, they just feel whatever they feel, and we…
/r/seduction29/06/12 03:53 AM
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Wait a minute, let's be real here. Making somebody "less of a woman" is a pretty loaded term, isn't it? A penis and a vagina are very different things! Realistically, yeah, having a penis does make you less of a woman; to say otherwise just seems like an unwieldy level of PC-ness. But I think you're using that term to mean "less of a person," and in that sense you're absolutely right. Anyway, for the most part you're preaching to the choir. Nobody's saying anything about who people should be att…
/r/seduction29/06/12 01:55 AM
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It's not transphobia if you prefer not to have sex with a girl with a penis. Not that RJwhores' comment wasn't bullshit, I just wanted to point that out.
/r/seduction29/06/12 12:56 AM
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What he said. You have to be comfortable with the fact that you'll get hit on, and be prepared to turn them down in such a positive way that they like you anyway. Then bang--instant wingman.
/r/seduction29/06/12 12:48 AM
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I could just hear the ka-BAM! as you dropped that last line. Great job. That hand on the cheek move is a pretty advanced play. I'm having trouble picturing it exactly, can you give us a little more detail?
/r/seduction28/06/12 05:43 PM
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Anywhere. Everywhere. Get your game good enough, and you can meet them in cafes, trains, work, friends' parties, or whatever. The way to get good game is to practice! The ones that aren't relationship material can still prepare you for the ones that are. I met my current GF on the street. Thank God I had built up enough day game to stay outwardly smooth, because my stomach was doing somersaults when I looked at her.
/r/seduction27/06/12 09:04 PM
1

I don't think the :) was a bad thing at all. Seems like she was agreeing to hang out again. People have different texting styles. OTOH, you (accidentally?) hit on some very solid game with your followup. Say something that's slightly confusing and kind of a neg, get her curious and wondering what you meant, then brush her off when she tries to get clarification. It's a pretty clever move, now that I think of it. Sounds like it hooked her.
/r/seduction02/06/12 07:18 PM
1

I love this. I think understanding dog social behavior is the best way to learn about the human version, and I talk about that a lot. This will give me a new angle on that if it comes up in conversation.
/r/seduction27/05/12 04:09 PM
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Why would that be weird? It wouldn't have to be a long story, and for me at least, it'd be the truth. Just to guess at an example: What? Oh. [smile] I always make eye contact with women, I just naturally feel like holding the connection. Non-verbal communication fascinates me. What do you mean? Well, you can learn a lot about someone by how they make eye contact. Maybe more than you can from what they say. If you're honest, it just...shows. You know? You do seem really honest... When I was young…
/r/seduction26/05/12 11:24 PM
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Hellooooo police investigation.
/r/seduction19/05/12 02:35 AM
1

I find it idiotic that you were downvoted for this.
/r/seduction09/05/12 05:28 AM
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It's good to let her know you're not falling for the usual bullshit, but instead of shutting her down completely, you want to let her know that you're a man of quality and she needs to work to win your interest. You also need to be aloof without being rude or insulting (both very beta traits). "You get to buy a cute girl a drink." "This bar is full of cute girls. I could probably get one of them buying me drinks. What makes you so special?" This gives her a chance to try and impress you. You sti…
/r/seduction01/05/12 01:58 PM
3

I wouldn't have used the "any room for me?" line. It sounds needy and a little corny. I think the line he used could actually have worked with the right delivery, maybe a smile and a conspiratorial tone. The ideal goal would be to let them know he sees through what they're doing, but get them to keep trying to seem sexy to him.
/r/seduction01/05/12 01:48 PM
3

Tell me about it.
/r/seduction21/04/12 05:27 AM
1

I just tell myself I'm hot as fuck, and remind myself until I believe it. That approach won't work with everyone, and I get that. Your inner game (and, to a much lesser extent, your actual appearance) has to be at a certain point before anything can make you feel attractive. But I use it, and I find it really works for me. After all, why shouldn't it? I'm hot as fuck.
/r/seduction16/04/12 03:28 AM
3

This one wins the prize. Tofu waltzed up to her, went for the insta-kclose, and cavemanned her immediately. Do you think it would have gone so far, so fast if he hadn't a) shown giant brass balls, and b) been smooth about it? Impossible to know for sure, but probably not. Sometimes it takes a PUA to unlock an opportunity when life passes it to you.
/r/seduction21/03/12 11:04 PM
1

MFW I read this
/r/seduction21/03/12 10:56 PM
1

Just smile, say "well, nice meeting you," and eject. It's much easier and smoother than you think.
/r/seduction10/03/12 05:41 PM
2

This doesn't belong here.
/r/seduction10/03/12 03:52 PM
34

Laugh, give a genuine smile, and introduce yourself.
/r/seduction10/03/12 03:50 PM
8

The shirt, the hair, the ink, and the jewelry all combine to form a look, and a pretty ballsy one. I'm sure it does help your game: not only are you peacocking, but it shows you aren't afraid to be noticed. That look wouldn't work for me (wrong build, hair, etc.), but more power to you.
/r/seduction09/03/12 04:51 PM
4

You've got balls to dress like that. Good on you.
/r/seduction09/03/12 03:06 PM
1

This is Lovedrop, Mystery's wingman. If that guy can do it, so can you.
/r/seduction09/03/12 04:51 AM
4

So much is wrong here, as others have pointed out. I just want to emphasize that "bros before hoes" is one of those ultra-important, friendship-ending cardinal rules. Not only should you never break it, you should never stay friends with someone who does. Seriously, ditch the friends. Abundance Mentality applies to your bros as well.
/r/seduction08/03/12 08:09 PM
3

Ordinarily I would be utterly against this, but under the circumstances, I find myself strangely okay with it.
/r/seduction08/03/12 08:05 PM
3

Ha! Nice try. Everyone knows there are no girls on the Internet.
/r/seduction07/03/12 06:31 PM
1

Sounds like it's time you vaulted out of the friend zone, dude.
/r/seduction07/03/12 04:08 AM
7

The downvoters must be bitter short guys or something, because all you did was post your own experiences. Maybe it was because you said you have your pick of men, but Sedditors should have the balls to appreciate a confident girl.
/r/seduction07/03/12 04:08 AM
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I should be putting energy into finding a relationship not into finding a good sexual experience Not exactly what I'm saying, though. There's nothing wrong with putting energy into finding good sex. You don't even have to be interested in finding a relationship at all. But the search for a meaningful relationship, if you decide you want one, is much more significant than saving your v-card until you find one. Furthermore, losing your v-card won't help make the relationship better (it can actuall…
/r/seduction05/03/12 09:05 PM
2

Dude, I held on to mine and I regret it to this day. Don't put sex on a pedestal, you need to think of it as not such a big deal. Relationships are a big deal; if you want meaning, put your energy into searching for the right girl to be with long term, not the right girl to fuck. Your first time is going to be disappointing anyway; if you get a few under your belt, not only will you have fun doing it, but you'll know what the fuck you're doing when a special girl comes along. TL;DR: Don't waste …
/r/seduction05/03/12 04:02 PM
1

"You have chosen...wisely."
/r/seduction04/03/12 03:58 PM
6

I agree. The "Dear, I chose to let you be with me tonight" is trying too hard, and falling right into her game. You did fine.
/r/seduction03/03/12 02:05 AM
6

Yes you were. The outcome/close is usually part of an FR.
/r/seduction25/02/12 11:42 PM
2

I also waited for stupid reasons (not religion, just the old "I want my first time to be special" bullshit). I have the exact same regret. Your first time is going to suck anyway, and it won't make subsequent experiences less special. Just go for it, it's not that big a deal.
/r/seduction11/02/12 05:40 PM
2

Fucking awesome FR. I like the "3rd grade first base" thing.
/r/seduction07/02/12 11:34 PM
1

My guess is that SRS found this. If they haven't, they soon will. I agree that her reaction in the morning is very relevant here, you should probably include that. Her level of drunkenness is hard to tell for sure, but it doesn't sound like it was more than a little buzzed. Legally, she has to be WASTED to lose the ability to consent. From her behavior, it sounds like your assessment of LMR/ASD was probably correct, and there was no lack of consent. We really only have part of the picture, thoug…
/r/seduction07/02/12 06:02 PM
3

Keep finding challenges to face. Open groups with a different makeup than you're used to (girls to guys, HBs to mediocre girls, larger groups, lone wolves). Try out stripper game, bartender game, waitress game. Go after hotter and hotter girls: start restricting yourself to 9+ or 9.5+ or whatever challenges you. One other thing that might help is not focusing on the game as an activity in itself, but as something that happens while you're out doing your thing. Focus on having a good time with yo…
/r/seduction07/02/12 05:50 PM
1

This is the real answer. By all means, use the treatments others have described here, but the most important thing you need to do is have a DGAF attitude. As long as you smell ok, treating the sweat is secondary to that.
/r/seduction04/02/12 06:29 PM
3

Don't worry, dude, just be as awesome as you can and people will notice. Sometimes it's helpful to disappear for a little while and reinvent yourself, but that's not really important; it's more something that helps YOU not feel trapped in the role you've been playing. Adjusting the attitudes of those around you is easier than you think. Sometimes it's as easy as doing something they'd never have expected you to do. I recently had a female friend, whom I've known since high school, ask me point-b…
/r/seduction04/02/12 01:30 AM
9

Lick your finger, touch her dress, and say "let's get you out of those wet clothes." In all seriousness, try faking a foreign accent and pretending your English isn't very good. I've been meaning to try that.
/r/seduction03/02/12 09:53 PM
2

Ugh, the amount of knowledge-free outrage in that thread is unbelievable. Just wanted to let you know I'm really enjoying the info here, having never tried Internet dating. Thanks for sharing, and please continue.
/r/seduction02/02/12 11:24 PM
1

Talk about being alpha as fuck.
/r/seduction01/02/12 05:34 PM
2

Fuck yeah man, do it.
/r/seduction01/02/12 03:38 PM
1

Yeah, TBH I'd call it that. Lets be real, amigo, you gamed her and got her number. Don't go planting seeds in your buddies' girlfriends. There are millions out there to choose from. Friends who trust you are a valuable thing to have, and someone they can trust is a valuable thing to be.
/r/seduction01/02/12 06:32 AM
5

They're downvoting you because your reading comprehension fucking sucks. He didn't force himself on her, and the only time her consent was unclear was the kiss. He says he "led" her out to his car, I'm sure he didn't mean "dragged". Even on the kiss, there's no suggestion of force in what he wrote; he probably went in smoothly but not suddenly, without yanking her in. If she had pulled away or refused, that would have been that. Shit, dude, you sound like fucking SRS.
/r/seduction01/02/12 05:48 AM
3

I dunno, dude. I'm no angel, but "bros before hos" is one of those really important cardinal rules, IMHO.
/r/seduction30/01/12 11:35 PM
1

I would definitely not use the "why the fuck are you talking to me?" part, especially since asking a guy if he's hitting on you is already an effective way to AMOG. Otherwise, this is absolute gold.
/r/seduction29/01/12 02:19 PM
5

"Thanks! I get that a lot." Why the fuck would you be insulted? He's a good-looking dude. They probably mean it as a compliment, and since we haven't seen a pic of you, they may very well be right. If it bothers you, you should do your best to hide that and take it in the spirit it was intended. Don't be sensitive. Be awesome. Thank her and change the subject.
/r/seduction29/01/12 09:57 AM
1

"I just finished my time machine. Want to go do something yesterday?" Wait for giggles, then invite her out. BE SPECIFIC. Not any "uh, I dunno, probably see what my friends are up to" bullshit. Make up something on the spot if you have to, even as simple as "I was going to go out for drinks, want to come?" In addition to whatever's at hand, have some stock ideas prepared BEFORE someone asks you this question. Rock climbing is great, as are go-karting, bowling, salsa dancing, watching Westerns, s…
/r/seduction29/01/12 06:31 AM
2

1. ASSUME ATTRACTION 2. ASSUME ATTRACTION 3. ??? 3. ASSUME ATTRACTION TL;DR: Yes.
/r/seduction29/01/12 06:03 AM
4

There goes 25 seconds of my life I'll never get back.
/r/seduction29/01/12 05:54 AM
2

This is by far the best answer.
/r/seduction29/01/12 05:53 AM
4

Playing a game? Great idea. Playing that game? In this situation? Probably not so much. You've used the AO, so now her comfort is probably a bigger issue than attraction. Saying "I own your vag" could definitely push you over into creepyland if she's already on the fence about you. I admit, I'm also being a keyboard jockey with this, but the FR's discussion of comfort levels seems to back me up.
/r/seduction29/01/12 05:52 AM
3

What people are saying is, regardless of whether it makes sense to any of us, it works. If you have experience with it, please share. If not...meh.
/r/seduction29/01/12 04:30 AM
-4

Ugh, those whining pussies again. That subreddit needs to fucking die already. Yes, SRSlings, I'm talking to you.
/r/seduction29/01/12 04:08 AM
10

You're probably getting downvoted for the "I'M REALLY FUCKIN' STUPID" thing, but I really do like the "lean back and smile" move. I'll experiment with it.
/r/seduction28/01/12 10:17 PM
1

You're missing my point, which was: Why bother with a bitter parting shot? Who gives a fuck about her future dates if you're not on them?
/r/seduction28/01/12 10:10 PM
1

I don't know if regaining interest is really something you can do, or if it's part of PUA. But this situation can definitely happen before she's lost interest: It could be a shit test, or she could feel awkward because of the situation. I added a comment about this on the main thread.
/r/seduction28/01/12 09:43 PM
2

For you to move past this, she has to still have interest. There are basically two scenarios where this will happen while the girl is still interested: She wants to take it further with you, but her friend or whatever just showed up and she doesn't know how to keep talking to you without awkwardness. It's a shit test. The best way to deal with the first scenario is to give her a non-awkward option, and the best way to do that is to pre-empt it by winning over the friend as soon as she shows up. …
/r/seduction28/01/12 09:24 PM
1

Mentally noted for the next time I sarge.
/r/seduction28/01/12 08:47 PM
29

Yeah...captains don't do that these days.
/r/seduction28/01/12 08:46 PM
2

Excellent advice. Can you give us a sample (in dialogue) of how you'd play this?
/r/seduction28/01/12 08:45 PM
1

One very important side of this is that the perception is a bigger motivator than the reality. That is, it's not as important to them whether they are being bitchy or slutty, so much as how they'll be perceived by others (or feel about themselves). Understanding this is another HUGE leap forward in understanding their behavior. When the girl above complains about feeling bad, she's probably feeling worse about what OP thinks of her than how he feels about rejection. And she's right; his feelings…
/r/seduction28/01/12 05:24 PM
1

What the fuck do you think seduction means? It's 99% just learning how to talk to people, and then overcoming your fear of doing so.
/r/seduction28/01/12 05:05 PM
4

Who cares what she does with the next guy? Why don't you just send her a note that says "you hurt my feelings and now I'm going to be bitter and douchey about it"?
/r/seduction28/01/12 04:30 PM
0

There's one for my Facebook quote board. Thanks.
/r/seduction28/01/12 04:27 PM
1

Ha ha, I know, right? I just feel so confident lately, I can't help it. I'll say "pretty please" after everything from now on. New: Why do you want to sit there?
/r/seduction28/01/12 04:18 AM
2

Wouldn't I bore you if I wasn't? OR We all are, I'm just honest about it. New: My ex-boyfriend [blah blah blah].
/r/seduction26/01/12 01:31 PM
2

Dating?! Who said you could date me? My hair gel and I are sharing an evening out together. New: (doesn't respond when you ask a question)
/r/seduction25/01/12 10:57 PM
2

I know I seem that way, but give me your hand. (take her hand) See? I'm not too good to be true. New: Do you always just go up to people and start talking to them like this?
/r/seduction25/01/12 10:32 PM
1

So I'm not one of the boring guys you meet every day? New: Hang on, I need to call my friend.
/r/seduction25/01/12 07:18 PM
1

That's so you don't suspect. New: Your clothes look dirty.
/r/seduction25/01/12 07:08 PM
1

(laugh) I'm a delicate flower. New: Will you watch my purse?
/r/seduction25/01/12 02:53 PM
1

Half of my answers have been serious. I just mixed them in with bullshit so you wouldn't be too shocked. New: Why aren't you talking to a girl your own age?
/r/seduction25/01/12 06:06 AM
2

But I bet I'm the most handsome. New: What makes you think you're so great?
/r/seduction25/01/12 05:59 AM
1

That would make a good FR.
/r/seduction25/01/12 05:54 AM
4

Good, you aren't mine. There's only one of you. New: I have a boyfriend.
/r/seduction25/01/12 05:53 AM
10

Not a shit test.
/r/seduction25/01/12 05:50 AM
3

Dashingly handsome and brimming with charisma? I get that a lot. New: I think my friend would like you.
/r/seduction25/01/12 05:47 AM
-1

Oh, I misunderstood. I'm afraid my shirt isn't for sale. New: What kind of car do you drive?
/r/seduction25/01/12 05:45 AM
2

I'm actually only twelve. See this stubble? Go on, touch it. Yeah, it's just magic marker. New: Here, hold my drink.
/r/seduction25/01/12 05:42 AM
2

Yeah, you wouldn't want them thinking you were having a good time. New: [takes out phone, checks texts]
/r/seduction25/01/12 05:39 AM
8

Thanks, I've been trying to seem like less of a player. New Do you use that line on all the girls?
/r/seduction25/01/12 05:37 AM
2

"I think you've mistaken me for every other guy you've ever met." New: "How old are you? You look like a baby."
/r/seduction25/01/12 05:30 AM
1

When you're brand new to the game, everything you do is likely to fail spectacularly. Better to start with the real stuff, IMO, it's probably the faster way to learn.
/r/seduction19/01/12 04:13 AM
1

No, dude, you have to be willing to risk saying something she won't take well if you want to really nail it. "Walking around naked" is forgettable; "walking around with my cock out" is a lot more risky, but the payoff is much bigger in terms of her surprise and the way it changes the frame of the conversation. It would come off as creepy with the wrong frame, but your frame keeps it cocky/funny, shows your lack of fear, and lets a little sexuality creep into the conversation. It even serves as a…
/r/seduction19/01/12 03:58 AM
1

I was thinking the same thing, but I'm wondering how best to blow out AMOGs who are being this overt and physical, while staying collected. Any ideas? What would you do?
/r/seduction14/01/12 09:04 PM
1

Dude, if I were you I would have 86ed any chance of him ever being anywhere with you again. Don't trust him around you with hot girls unless he earns it. If he ever fucks up again, even in the middle of a trip, you need to cut him out of your life forever. If you need to kick him out of the shared hotel room and make him find his own, so be it. Fuck that bullshit.
/r/seduction14/01/12 08:51 PM
3

What was, or would have been, your response?
/r/seduction14/01/12 01:08 PM
1

Cool story, bro.
/r/seduction11/01/12 05:39 AM
2

Mostly from Internet sources, including articles linked from Seddit. I also have some friends in the community and one of Mystery's books (not all of which I find useful, but there's some good info in there). I was gradually developing natural game when I found the community about a year ago, but actually studying up on it has really helped me start to know what the fuck I'm doing. I actually have heard of The Blueprint and The Blueprint: Decoded, but I didn't know it was RSD behind those. I've …
/r/seduction09/01/12 02:39 PM
3

Is there anywhere you know of where I can either find those videos for free on the net, or buy a book or something from Amazon? I don't have a lot of time during the day, except on the train.
/r/seduction09/01/12 01:56 PM
6

Now I feel dumb for not knowing anything about RSD. I checked what I think is their website, but there's not much info on their methods. What makes RSD different? Is there a tutorial anywhere that you're aware of?
/r/seduction08/01/12 08:14 PM
3

I don't consider "don't fuck deployed soldiers' wives" to be a lame moral code. Interesting tip about POF, though.
/r/seduction07/01/12 12:42 PM
1

I can confirm this, I've done similar things myself.
/r/seduction06/01/12 12:47 AM
1

I was about to recommend BJJ. I lost 25 pounds in 6 months that way, and I've gained back 10 in muscle since then. It really pulls you in, and it feels like competition, not a chore. Plus, it will boost your confidence in ways you won't even expect.
/r/seduction02/01/12 03:02 PM
6

Can somebody provide a tl;dr here?
/r/seduction02/01/12 03:26 AM
3

LOL. Try /r/Foreveralone then, you should fit right in.
/r/seduction01/01/12 07:35 PM
4

Kay. Can I just piss on your leg, then? http://i.imgur.com/4FwFe.jpg
/r/seduction01/01/12 07:30 PM
7

If that's the case, Seddit isn't the place for you. Edit: Downvote me all you like. Anyone who takes the "I hate people" attitude is going to fail miserably at seduction, and completely misses the point of what PUA material is all about. You should be going out with the idea that people are awesome, you love interacting with them, and the more of them you can share your evening with, the better. Coming across as a sullen, frustrated, Hot Topic-shopping douchenozzle is a sure ticket to lonelytown…
/r/seduction01/01/12 07:12 PM
2

That'd be creepy, but she'll probably laugh her ass off if you wiggle your eyebrows, or cock one and then the other in alternation. Ninja edit: or just wink at her.
/r/seduction27/12/11 05:37 PM
1

Please don't use this. It's forced, tryhard, and way too complimentary. You need to start off a little aloof; I wouldn't go with a compliment any stronger than "you look great through them."
/r/seduction27/12/11 05:35 PM
-2

"That's okay, I don't want to be your boyfriend."
/r/seduction24/12/11 07:35 PM
2

Fine, but what I'm saying is whether your opener is a magic trick or something else, you should either prepare for contingencies or know how to adapt.
/r/seduction24/12/11 02:53 AM
1

Contingencies, bro. Plan for them.
/r/seduction23/12/11 08:34 PM
4

"No." "That's the spirit."
/r/seduction21/12/11 11:44 PM
1

James Bond is my standby as well, and it's good to see I'm not the only one who does this. I prefer the Daniel Craig version because he's alpha as fuck, but you can choose whichever Bond suits your mood and style. I love to use the WWJBD mantra, I think it's really underrated as a tool to get you in the frame you want to be in, and to motivate you to take risks and be seductive. About your second question, what would girls be getting offended by? I don't see anything offensive about either what …
/r/seduction21/12/11 02:23 PM
3

There are a lot of good points here, but one important thing is left out: They will always throw you shit tests about your age; this will always, always happen, so be prepared in advance. The age difference can also trigger some ASD if her friends are around (and they will be--MILFs travel in packs). As soon as you handle these shit tests and give her a way to save face with her friends, you are in there. If she asks how old you are, pull an Agree/Amplify and tell her you're twelve. She'll laugh…
/r/seduction20/12/11 04:45 AM
6

Not bad, except with scenario A you should also be plowing forward. It's just a shit test, and one that's easily overcome. So she knows it was a line? So what? No big deal. "Ha, you caught me, no one ever sees through that one. What's your name?" or "I don't believe you, show me your three best dance moves."
/r/seduction16/12/11 03:47 AM
1

That wasn't negging. I don't know what the fuck that was. When you asked him to come back later, did you feel any genuine interest in talking to him again apart from making more money? That's probably the best indicator of whether he was running legitimate game or just acting weird.
/r/seduction16/12/11 01:10 AM
2

AFCB? Edit: AFBH - Average Frustrated Blockhead.
/r/seduction15/12/11 04:23 AM
7

Lately, there have been a lot of "seduction = manipulation/coercion/disrespect/sleaziness/insert negative descriptor here" posts in Seddit. Every single one has resisted attempts to educate them. Honestly, I'm getting sick of trying to refute this idea. I'd rather talk about improving my game than justify its existence. I feel like it's an answered question, and other than some kind of "NEWBIES READ THIS FIRST" note in the sidebar, I think we should start removing posts and comments like that as…
/r/seduction11/12/11 12:49 AM
1

Better than what? A guy who has sex with girls? That makes no sense. When we say not to ask her what she wants, it's because women like to be led. They don't like having to initiate everything. So instead of asking her what she wants, you should be taking charge and moving things toward sex. If she doesn't want that, she'll stop you. And your V-card isn't anything worth holding onto, bro. Believe me on this. I made the same mistake when I was younger, and I've been kicking myself ever since.
/r/seduction10/12/11 01:11 PM
1

This would be an excellent question for AskSeddit. If you post it there I'll try to comment on it, and hopefully you'll get input from other Sedditors as well.
/r/seduction08/12/11 07:23 PM
1

In some situations, sure. But for highly social situations, it sounds like you should set your goals higher. Do you know how many girls I've randomly made out with in bars, parties, concerts, etc.? I'm not bragging, I'm saying it's easier than you think. Your goal should depend on the setting and the vibe you get from the interaction, but I'm usually looking for the kclose.
/r/seduction06/12/11 08:13 PM
5

Thumb wrestling is gold, and you can find a lot of excuses to do it; the easiest would be when you're trying to make her qualify herself, and you challenge her to back up some claim with a thumb war. Or if she disagrees with something you've said, or she tries to shit test you, or almost anything. Make it a challenge, show that you're confident and that she has to prove herself to you. Examples: "I'm super competitive, I always have to win." Oh, yeah? Prove it. Thumb war, right now. (note: you m…
/r/seduction06/12/11 06:10 PM
13

It's exactly the mindset to have. Until you have been unambiguously blown out, assume attraction.
/r/seduction06/12/11 04:14 PM
1

Why do you think kissing on the first meeting is atypical? I assure you it's not (depending on the circumstances of the meeting, of course). But even if you don't get the kclose right away, the #close alone is shaky as proof that your game was tight. If that's all that happened, it's best to reserve judgement at least until you try for a Day 2. If she agrees to meet up (and actually does without flaking), that's a stronger indication that she's into you.
/r/seduction04/12/11 02:39 PM
1

Not useless, it's just not as meaningful as an indicator of success. It's a lot easier to get a girl's number than, say, to kiss her. She might not be all that into you yet, or she might not really intend to return your calls, or it may not even be a real number. Lots of girls will give you their digits before they're really on the hook. So, to answer your question: Get the number. But when you're evaluating the evening, don't give a #close too much weight in deciding how strong your game was.
/r/seduction02/12/11 11:25 PM
1

Yup.
/r/seduction02/12/11 09:44 PM
3

I think you both have valid points. What you were saying was 100% spot on, but a lot of people around here give #closes a credibility that they don't really deserve. I've seen you around, I know you know better, but it's worth reminding the newbies on occasion. Probably could have used some more tact, though.
/r/seduction02/12/11 06:08 PM
12

We need some context here. Can you post a picture of yourself in both styles? Also remember that there are factors that may play into this. You may simply feel more at home in the second style, and your personality may be a better match. Still a useful case study.
/r/seduction28/11/11 12:27 AM
3

What the fuck is up with all the trolls in this thread? Can we get someone in here with a banhammer or something?
/r/seduction27/11/11 10:07 AM
1

And time. And effort. And self-respect.
/r/seduction25/11/11 01:28 AM
1

Do what you want, dude. I won't stick around if sex isn't part of the relationship, but that's me. Nobody's forcing you to act a certain way.
/r/seduction24/11/11 03:05 PM
2

At no point did I call you an AFC, as I recall. I simply explained the term. TheMackdockery is free to date whomever and however she likes. She won't be dating me, but I have no hostility toward her whatsoever. No one is requiring you to be a PUA, but you're in a subreddit devoted to people who are PUAs or aspire to be. If you have no interest in that, this isn't the place for you.
/r/seduction24/11/11 02:34 PM
1

You are not a chump. AFC is a motivational term we use in this self-help genre to represent what we're trying to move away from: a guy who doesn't know how to attract women any more than the mythical "average Joe". An AFC is the sort of person who doesn't maintain high expectations, allows himself to be a doormat, lacks confidence, and allows his social life to proceed more or less by chance. I like the part of PUA that's about developing your social skills with EVERYONE. It's when they start ta…
/r/seduction24/11/11 07:49 AM
2

It doesn't sound like fun because it's a deconstruction of a social interaction. What is really going on, beneath the lingo, is a fun evening where two people feel gradually closer to each other. It will definitely not be fun if the guy is obsessing over these ideas every second and acting like a machine, rather than relaxing, having fun, and building intimacy. These ideas are just guidelines for the direction of the evening--which, if it's a date, should be gradually moving toward greater intim…
/r/seduction24/11/11 06:59 AM
1

Many people interpret it that way, but they're missing the point. The best PUAs I know are completely genuine, open, easy to talk to, and confident in themselves. The better I get at this discipline, the more relaxed and open I become, and the more genuine affection I feel for those I meet. This has a snowball effect, because it leads me to be more successful with them. It's not about manipulation or pretending to be someone you're not, it's about learning how to be social and becoming a better …
/r/seduction24/11/11 03:50 AM
2

You're seeing it in the wrong way. You should definitely be getting to know her, on as deep a level as possible. At the same time, you should be escalating the physical/sexual component of your interaction. You might think of it as two different kinds of escalation: sexual and social. Each happens simultaneously over the course of an encounter that includes lots of conversation and eventually leads to sex/kissing/whatever. Each type of escalation will complement the other. You're building a conn…
/r/seduction24/11/11 03:40 AM
1

Average Frustrated Chump. From the Glossary of Terms in the sidebar: AFCs are just your average guy, who’s usually had some success with “getting lucky” with women, and may even have had a few girlfriends throughout their lives, but as a whole are pretty clueless when it comes to attracting women. (source) Most of us, even the best PUAs (pickup artists) on Seddit, were AFCs when we started learning the science of seduction. If you're new around here, I encourage you to read the links in the side…
/r/seduction24/11/11 03:01 AM
2

Dude, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm not talking about what an interested girl is willing to wait for, and I'm definitely not suggesting anyone assume rejection. That's the opposite of what you should do. We're talking about two totally different things. What I'm saying is that you should always be escalating, and if you don't do that, there's an excellent chance you're hurting the attraction by not doing it. You should also always be assuming attraction unless she blows you out. If you …
/r/seduction24/11/11 02:39 AM
0

Sure it's possible, hence the "in general." But it's the exception, not the rule, and unless there were a good reason for it, I would assume something was wrong. Remember also that it's difficult to tell when you've found one of these rare exceptions, and people can't always trust their instincts when they're recovering from AFC status. Many guys are repeating things like what you said ("it's possible for people to take it slowly even when they both like each other a lot") to themselves the whol…
/r/seduction24/11/11 02:06 AM
0

Ugh. I have indeed known guys like this. I don't hang out with them anymore.
/r/seduction23/11/11 09:39 PM
1

How old are you? Age plays a part in this. A date where you don't kiss the girl isn't too bad in high school, but older than that and it's (usually) pretty much automatically a bad date. Failing to k-close during the date isn't necessarily a deal breaker, but it's a negative thing that you will have to overcome to get back on track. It can hurt attraction and push you toward the friend zone, and the longer you wait, the harder it will be to escalate things.
/r/seduction23/11/11 09:31 PM
1

You must date some raging AFCs if they're willing to wait 6 dates for a mere BJ. I don't care how cute you are, I assure you it's not worth it. Their loss, sis.
/r/seduction23/11/11 06:36 PM
3

It's always important not to force it, or more accurately, not to make it seem forced. If you're nervous, you may feel as though you have to force yourself to kiss her, but what matters is whether you can make the kiss feel natural and non-awkward to her, even though you may be privately freaking out. An awkward and forced kiss is bad, because it makes you seem unconfident. But it's better to push forward, take the initiative, and go for the kiss than it is to avoid all risk of awkwardness or re…
/r/seduction23/11/11 06:15 PM
2

Dude, not only are you wasting your time, but waiting that long will squander the attraction, if there was any to begin with. Did you eventually fuck that girl? Sober? I would bet money you didn't.
/r/seduction23/11/11 02:27 PM
6

You're getting downvoted, but in general you're right. The kiss needs to happen on the first date, if not the very first meeting. If that doesn't happen, you're barreling toward the friend zone.
/r/seduction23/11/11 02:21 PM
1

I think his question is how the high energy, laughter-filled, digit-producing conversation would play out.
/r/seduction23/11/11 06:52 AM
7

C'mon, man. I've told my best lines in here. Spill it.
/r/seduction23/11/11 06:40 AM
20

"I don't always get around to texting people." "Are you not getting enough of my attention?" "Make your texts dirtier." "Do I? I hadn't noticed." "I'm on call at work. If they call me I'll have to take it." All of these except the last one should be said with a smile, and in all of them you must maintain frame. What you say in this case doesn't matter much, it's in the delivery. Don't be rude, but don't act like you've done anything wrong or have anything to apologize for by not texting her fast…
/r/seduction23/11/11 06:33 AM
12

You basically pretend you forgot all about texting her, and after a few days if she doesn't text you first, text her again like nothing happened. You were too busy being awesome to notice. If you were inviting her somewhere and she flaked on you, don't even mention it. If it comes up in conversation, tell her what an awesome time you had and how she should have been there. Basically, make her feel like she missed out on something fun by flaking on you.
/r/seduction22/11/11 08:10 PM
3

Usually, yes. But there's no law that says women can't approach, and it certainly happens. And whether she approaches or slips him AIs to get him to approach her first, she's putting herself out there, and some women really are too shy or nervous to do either. Women aren't that different from men, really. They have the same insecurities and social confusion as anyone else, and they consider getting the guy they want (whatever that means) just as challenging as we do. If anything, they fear rejec…
/r/seduction21/11/11 02:58 PM
2

Two things: Like many people, you are missing the point of seduction and PUA material. It is not about playing games or being unauthentic, it is about being a better man and understanding the social framework. If you feel that way, what the hell are you doing in Seddit?
/r/seduction21/11/11 06:48 AM
1

Not true. Girls may want those things first from a long-term partner, but not necessarily from a lover. It is very possible and often more effective to be openly interested only in seduction and sex from a girl, and to disqualify yourself as a boyfriend (someone who offers romance, and wants more than her body). A girl's attraction is far more complicated than what she thinks you want from her. Sometimes trying to be "romantic" can actually hurt your chances with her. Please read some more PUA m…
/r/seduction21/11/11 06:06 AM
12

This isn't always the case. Many women are just as socially awkward as a socially awkward penguin, even girls who everyone else thinks are super cute. Getting past their shyness and fear so that they can either approach guys or send out IOIs can be a challenge. OP, good on you. The truth is that for both girls and guys, getting past your anxiety and inhibitions is by far the hardest part. Good call about going to the gym, too, that's always a good thing.
/r/seduction21/11/11 05:57 AM
2

Done and done.
/r/seduction21/11/11 05:52 AM
1

Stay classy, bro.
/r/seduction21/11/11 05:50 AM
1

The video doesn't load for me.
/r/seduction20/11/11 02:31 PM
2

Do it, man. Just do it where it's legal. I bet that would be an awesome way to take on social anxiety.
/r/seduction07/11/11 05:54 PM
1

I don't think that's selfish at all, but it's good that you're keeping a thought out for such things. You can be a PUA and Good Guy Greg at the same time. In fact, the best PUAs I know are all really decent guys. Don't be a dick, but remember you don't owe her anything. If she's annoying, find someone who's fun.
/r/seduction07/11/11 05:43 PM
4

Sounds like you did great. The only thing I would have done differently is shown Texas a little interest to keep her on the hook after she was all over you. There needs to be some pull in the push/pull, so she feels like she at least has a chance. On the other hand, you ended up fclosing a 9 that night, so fuck Texas. :)
/r/seduction07/11/11 04:21 PM
2

Maybe that wasn't the clearest way I could put it. I guess what I'm saying is that if you want to avoid drama, you probably should avoid being direct at first. Instead of directly hitting on/flirting with the girls, you could focus more on yourself: lots of DHV, being alpha, being cocky-funny, and build attraction that way. You might come in under the radar more and stop the others from getting upset that you're hitting on all the girls. Personally, I'd say fuck the drama and just do what I norm…
/r/seduction06/11/11 02:18 AM
1

Same reason I do the k-close feint: I like to prove I've succeeded with her. This isn't just to pad my ego; I'm always trying to improve my game, so it helps to know I was actually doing something right and not imagining it. Besides, it's fun.
/r/seduction05/11/11 09:03 PM
3

Agreed, I would say game them but don't hit on them. There's a difference, and it's what you should be doing anyway. Be the leader of the group and let them be naturally drawn to you.
/r/seduction05/11/11 06:22 PM
2

Let's just say they'd have succeeded in motivating me.
/r/seduction04/11/11 03:32 PM
2

I'm curious, what would you say to the "can I bring a friend" line? I don't think I've encountered that, but I suppose I'd just say no.
/r/seduction04/11/11 02:01 PM
2

Completely agree. The more you let a girl whine and dump on you, the less she will respect you.
/r/seduction04/11/11 01:59 PM
1

But at least he's trying not to be.
/r/seduction04/11/11 05:43 AM
1

Exactly.
/r/seduction04/11/11 04:11 AM
2

when you go in for the fake-KC, isn't it kind of awkward to just back off, wink and leave? It's a tease. The exact vibe of the fake-KC is hard to explain without showing it in action, but I'll try. When you do it, you're silently telling her: I'm in control of this interaction. I could kiss you right now if I choose, and you'd kiss me back. But I'm just toying with you right now. If you try very hard, you can win my attention. She should be hooked before you do this; you are pointing out that sh…
/r/seduction03/11/11 11:00 PM
1

It's a neg. And a pretty good one, because it makes her feel self-conscious while still being a compliment. You never want a neg to come off as a deliberate insult.
/r/seduction03/11/11 08:11 PM
0

I definitely wouldn't choose spilling beer on someone as an AMOG move, since it can easily lead to a fight (and yeah, it crosses over into douchebag behavior), but at least you've owned up to that. Otherwise, sounds like you handled the evening like a boss and gave no fucks. Good work.
/r/seduction02/11/11 08:21 PM
1

"It works because people try to use your drunken state to pry the truth out of you," she says. "Little do they know I'm prying the truth out of them." Clever girl.
/r/seduction02/11/11 07:56 PM
1

Bitches love sparkles.
/r/seduction02/11/11 01:50 PM
1

Fuck yes we would. My first thought while reading that was "wow, getting $1500 a week to be a FWB would be a pretty sweet deal."
/r/seduction02/11/11 12:09 AM
7

It was a gradual thing, starting when I hit college, and not really coming together until about 3 years ago. It's partly maturity, and partly lessons learned. There was no one single moment when it all hit home, but there were major leaps forward along the way: noticing girls check me out for the first time in college; clubbing in Brazil and having natural PUA game come out (because I was feeling like an alpha, even though I didn't understand it); moving to Asia for a while and seeing how import…
/r/seduction31/10/11 07:39 PM
7

Also, sleep on a towel -- apparently the best way to clear up acne. TIL, thanks dude.
/r/seduction31/10/11 02:12 PM
55

EDIT: Due to the response, I'm expanding this with a version I just posted on FB. Hopefully it's not TL;DR now. Dear 16-year-old me, First of all, stop fucking trying to play the "nice guy". You're not being a nice guy, you're being an ingratiating worm and people see right through it. It doesn't help, and the fact that it doesn't help isn't the fault of girls or society. Avoid niceguyism. Being considerate and playing the "nice guy" are not the same thing. One is genuine kindness; one is pathet…
/r/seduction31/10/11 01:25 PM
7

wat
/r/seduction31/10/11 11:49 AM
1

But the important question there is: Did you friendzone them, or did they friendzone you against your will? There's a big difference between the two dynamics. Even in the latter case, you may have been "fighting your way out of the friend zone" (even if you didn't realize it) by disengaging, displaying high value, and slowly reinventing yourself. My point is that the friend zone doesn't help you in getting to sex or an LTR. Most of us would prefer not to wait an entire year if we wanted one of t…
/r/seduction20/10/11 02:07 AM
3

He isn't in a relationship with her. He's in her friend zone. He has ruined his chances not only of casual sex, but also of a romantic relationship. Sex can easily and naturally lead to an LTR, but the friend zone most definitely does not. You have to fight your way out of the friend zone before you have a shot at romance or sex.
/r/seduction19/10/11 09:57 PM
2

More for me, man, more for me. Cougars are fucking hot.
/r/seduction08/10/11 04:54 AM
1

Holy shit, that's epic. And extremely crafty. You're making me wish I liked dudes, dude.
/r/seduction08/10/11 01:45 AM
10

Today I learned a thing. Thanks, new gay friend! BTW, you jelly our team already took cougars?
/r/seduction07/10/11 10:46 PM
17

So they're in good shape, they're just hairy? Is there a group called the honey badgers? There needs to be a group called the honey badgers.
/r/seduction07/10/11 10:32 PM
9

I can confirm this, especially the part about gay dudes being incredible wingmen. The quantity/quality of the girls is going to depend on the bar, but you generally have excellent odds. One of the hottest girls I've ever made out with was introduced to me by her gay friend. You will get hit on, though. It happens. It's no big deal, just take the compliment and let it boost your confidence. An alpha isn't threatened by people checking him out, so don't be a baby.
/r/seduction07/10/11 10:30 PM
11

TIL otters and wolverines are things, although I don't know what they are besides wildlife and X-Men.
/r/seduction07/10/11 10:23 PM
7

She was right, but you also should have immediately smiled and asked her to come home with you.
/r/seduction04/10/11 03:12 AM
12

This is exactly right on all counts. The f-close probably went off the rails during the "back at your place" phase, but we know almost nothing about that. It could be any of a bunch of things: you did something that turned her off, she started to get a "boyfriend" vibe and wanted to make you wait, or she had some LMR/ASD that you handled badly. Or maybe it had nothing to do with you; she could have started feeling sick or something. We need to know more to make even an educated guess. Either way…
/r/seduction01/10/11 04:21 PM
2

Great points. So attraction is building her sexual interest in you, and seduction is communicating your sexual interest in her? I'm trying to understand your definitions of seduction vs. attraction. I think we use the same methods but have different terms for them.
/r/seduction30/09/11 06:20 PM
1

Hang on. I've always thought of "seduction" as referring to the whole pickup process. How do you define it?
/r/seduction30/09/11 04:35 PM
1

I say yay. I dunno about you, but getting laid makes me feel better when there's negative shit in my life. Can you sleep with her without allowing the drama into it? If so, go for it. Treat her well, be a positive thing in her life, but don't get involved in whatever the drama is and don't let her dump on you; doing that will just drain you emotionally and make her friendzone you.
/r/seduction30/09/11 04:31 PM
1

Nice work. Now work on not letting it ruffle your feathers. Be the one who doesn't give a fuck about the other guys, because she's going home with you.
/r/seduction30/09/11 04:21 PM
2

the hotness of girls is more like a state. Our hotness as men is more like a process. This is a really brilliant observation. I'd never thought of it this way, but it makes a ton of sense.
/r/seduction30/09/11 04:19 PM
1

Dude, what the fuck? Why didn't you approach either of these girls? You make a very valid point about social proof, but your post also illustrates that approaching is even more important.
/r/seduction30/09/11 04:13 PM
1

Allow me to explain. I'm saying that following this advice will completely ruin your chances with the girl forever, which is the opposite of what Seddit is about. It will also have the side benefit of making your friends hate you. Don't do it unless you want to be forever alone.
/r/seduction29/09/11 02:08 PM
1

And shut you down.
/r/seduction29/09/11 03:24 AM
1

Such as leaping over the table and throttling his brother for a minor social indiscretion? Good call.
/r/seduction29/09/11 03:15 AM
1

What the fuck? Man, this went off the rails fast. I stopped reading with any degree of seriousness right after "imagine if we hadn't stopped Hitler and his armies."
/r/seduction29/09/11 03:12 AM
5

Me too. It's my favorite fucking game in the world. I'm glad we agree, bro.
/r/seduction27/09/11 06:56 AM
2

The original article is even more relevant from a Seddit standpoint. The beta behavior of letting people walk all over you doesn't win their approval; it just encourages them to walk all over you. Stay mature, don't stoop to people's level, but be an alpha and stand up for yourself. Set boundaries on what you will and won't accept from people, and stick to them.
/r/seduction22/09/11 07:45 PM
4

It should not be an insult at all. It should not "bring her down," it should be positive or neutral while still making her worry that she's getting friendzoned. I feel like negs are the most misunderstood and misused concept in seduction, and I think it's because they were named very badly. Negs are not negative. If they are, you're doing it wrong.
/r/seduction19/09/11 06:16 PM
2

This question really comes from a bad place, women want sex and they want to be seduced. This question makes it seem like they want to withhold sex and "game" is somehow tricking them into giving it away, thus smarter women are harder to trick. That is crap. Things like this are why you're my favorite Sedditor lately.
/r/seduction15/09/11 11:28 PM
6

I can vouch for this, but may I suggest salsa or tango lessons instead? Girls fucking lose their minds when you bust out some salsa moves.
/r/seduction15/09/11 08:10 PM
1

Sorry, I think I was unclear. What I'm wondering about is you and the bisexual girl finding a third wheel. How did you get the new girl to agree to it? Did she know from the beginning that you were both picking her up?
/r/seduction14/09/11 05:31 AM
13

Be even more charming, classy, and smooth than you aim for with younger girls. You don't want to freak them out, and you definitely don't want to seem like an immature jock. Go for the Connery version of James Bond, in a young guy's body. They'll love that you're a young seducer, but they also want to see you as mature and in control. What's also worked for me is being a little more forward than usual. Let them know you're interested and aren't shy about it. They're not there to play games, they…
/r/seduction14/09/11 05:02 AM
-1

Can you at least give us a description of how the conversation plays out? Are you both up front in advance about what you're doing?
/r/seduction13/09/11 06:16 PM
3

I tell them we're not exclusive, and if they can't deal with that I break it off. It's always worked, at least so far. You're definitely overcomplicating this.
/r/seduction13/09/11 05:27 PM
-4

Awesome post. Have you done this with a bi girl? How did the pickups go? Did she pick them up or did you, and did you go hunting as a couple? This would be a cool post on its own if you have enough information.
/r/seduction13/09/11 04:49 PM
6

Uh...you ever hear of putting your phone on vibrate? Or blocking an email address? I think you're overcomplicating things.
/r/seduction13/09/11 04:18 PM
2

I agree except for the delusional part. There's an excellent chance they are, in fact, checking him out. Especially if he walks like he expects them to.
/r/seduction13/09/11 03:59 PM
10

Multiple phones and email accounts? WTF, why?
/r/seduction13/09/11 03:26 PM
3

What exactly do you mean by "interested in 3-5 girls at once?" You mean seeing them as potential targets, or having your hooks in all of them and trying to make enough time to juggle their attentions? What stage of the game are you at with all these girls?
/r/seduction13/09/11 03:18 PM
2

Not sure if actual advice Or novelty account
/r/seduction13/09/11 02:48 AM
10

"I'm actually from Jupiter." "What??" "Oh, I thought we were practicing our lies." Kidding. Don't say that. IMHO the correct response is: "I know. I feel the same way. I don't know what it is about you." Then look at her like you might just fuck her again then and there. It's worked for me. Edit: Notice that you don't actually say you've never done it before. You're still the seducer who gets laid all the time, but you have a special connection with her.
/r/seduction12/09/11 09:19 PM
1

What is causing you to lose interest in these girls? Are you changing your mind about their value, or do you think you'll have to keep up the storytelling and it's too much effort? I think the fact that you're feeling this way is the real problem here, not how to deal with it once it happens.
/r/seduction12/09/11 09:13 PM
1

CurveBall is right, pickup is far more about your behavior and inner game than your outward appearance. That being said, have you talked to a doctor about your acne? Most acne is pretty treatable--including rosacea, which is what yours sounds like.
/r/seduction12/09/11 09:06 PM
12

Nice try, Old Spice.
/r/seduction12/09/11 09:04 PM
3

Having read this, it sounds like your future with this girl depends on whether she was experimenting with you or really into it. Once she found out you were into the freakness, she may have decided to try it as something wild and crazy, but otherwise as a one-time indulgence. If so, you probably can only get to FWB with her at best; girls don't get slutty with future boyfriends on the first date. If she was into it on her own, then great. Chalk it up to kismet. That being said...either way, you …
/r/seduction12/09/11 08:58 PM
3

Personally, I don't agree with the advice to wait before calling her back. 3/4 days is too long, IMHO. After rawdogging and freaky sex, she's going to be a little freaked and looking for reassurance. You need to maintain her comfort level. I wouldn't wait longer than 2 days to see her again, and maybe a quick "I had fun" type text on the first day is a good idea (leading quickly to making plans for the second day if she responds well). When you do talk to her, act relaxed and natural. There shou…
/r/seduction12/09/11 08:41 PM
5

I have known (and occasionally dated) so many women whom I would describe as "lesbians who love cock". It's surprisingly common.
/r/seduction10/09/11 04:21 AM
1

There's a lot of info here, but what first jumps out at me is this: “I did not take you for a trouble maker. You seem like a dork that follows the rules.” This seems a little too negative to me, especially after the exercise comment. You want your negs to not actually be insults, but her brain should turn them into "oh no, he's losing interest." If you replace "dork" with "girl" it's perfectly fine. You want to say something complimentary or at least neutral, but in a way that makes her worry sh…
/r/seduction09/09/11 03:12 PM
1

I like the analysis. That's what FRs are for, and this is an awesome FR. Far better to be too detailed than too vague.
/r/seduction09/09/11 02:57 PM
1

Awesome. Look, I only have one more minute to flirt with you. Coffee or tea? I love this. Hope you don't mind me swiping it.
/r/seduction08/09/11 09:33 PM
2

I like this one. It's a nice turnaround.
/r/seduction08/09/11 09:04 PM
1

Having good teeth will help, but just like everything else in pickup, it's the confidence that counts. Unless your teeth are stunningly great or stunningly awful, the warmth and confidence you put into the smile will be all she remembers.
/r/seduction08/09/11 04:27 PM
3

Babies react this way too. It feels like aggressive eye contact, and you can scare them if you're not careful.
/r/seduction07/09/11 06:00 AM
17

That's every day
/r/seduction07/09/11 05:55 AM
2

It depends on the type of "eager". Decisive, assertive: good. Desperate, needy: bad. Two sides of the coin.
/r/seduction06/09/11 11:36 PM
2

I wasn't offended by that at all. You're not even trying. ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction05/09/11 04:41 AM
1

Negging shouldn't be mean. If it comes off as mean, you're doing it wrong. You want to compliment her while at the same time making her worry that she's getting friendzoned.
/r/seduction04/09/11 02:09 AM
29

Worst case scenario, you get a really good look at some titties.
/r/seduction03/09/11 01:39 AM
1

This guy right here. Seriously, I've had girls call me "cute" or play with my hair before, and I can't think of a single time when I haven't fucked the girl or been certain that I could fuck her if I had the inclination.
/r/seduction02/09/11 10:04 PM
2

That's probably because your negs are actually negative. I feel like "neg" is a misnomer; it should actually be positive or at least neutral, while still suggesting that you're not interested in fucking the girl. Like complimenting her, but in a way that makes her worry that you're going to friendzone her. Negs are tricky, and I still haven't mastered them, but I think part of the problem is that the name sends us in the wrong direction.
/r/seduction02/09/11 10:00 PM
2

This sounds more like an IOI to me, especially if she was touching your hair. I've gotten it in both the good way and the bad way before, but I usually treat it as a shit test--agree & amplify. "Yeah, I know! I'm just a helpless little lamb to a wolf like you. What are you going to do with me?" Flash her a smirk that leaves no doubt who the real wolf is.
/r/seduction02/09/11 08:59 PM
1

You could tell her that, but frame it so that you're not trying to convince her not to like him, you're just explaining to her why you don't like him. Then change the subject. What she thinks about him is her problem, or at least, that should be what comes across. Don't mention the arrogance; she may actually have liked that about him. But changing stories (i.e. lying about having done cool stuff so people will like you) is very beta and frankly pathetic. When a girl mentions other guys, I usual…
/r/seduction31/08/11 12:21 AM
12

But it's worth pointing out that most chick flicks are awful as seduction guides.
/r/seduction30/08/11 10:06 PM
1

I get what you're saying, I really do, but for me, the game is actually the best part. All that build-up, the back-and-forth, the trying to figure out what she's thinking and get her to feel the way you want her to. I often feel disappointed when that's gone. The best advice I can give you is to try to find a way to enjoy the chase by itself, if you can. I'm no philosopher, but I feel like the secret to happiness may be something like: "Enjoy the journey as much as the destination."
/r/seduction28/08/11 03:30 PM
1

It didn't go farther than me feeling her up a bit If you meant this literally, then it must have worked. So yeah, I'd say you do.
/r/seduction28/08/11 12:27 AM
2

I disagree, actually. This passive-aggressive bullshit is very beta and easy to see through. It can backfire. Just be direct. "Listen, I'm sure X is a cool dude, but when you talk about him it bores the shit out of me. Tell me about you." Because after all, you should care even less about him than you should about whether they hooked up. He's the past, you're the present.
/r/seduction27/08/11 01:16 AM
15

I have to admit, I'm impressed. Your attitude toward getting AMOG'd is a lot better than mine.
/r/seduction26/08/11 11:22 PM
13

If you have a friendly relationship with her, you can just ask, straight up, if they hooked up. Not in a probing, cgpm kind of way, but just in a "Let's hear juicy details!" kind of way. To me, this just screams "please friendzone me immediately." 99% of women prefer rough, semi-violent, borderline-assault-and-battery kind of sex to gentle, passionate lovemaking. This, however, is one of those inconvenient truths of life. Everyone deserves respect, of course; but reality isn't always PC, or sedu…
/r/seduction26/08/11 09:55 PM
1

Then this is your lucky day, friend.
/r/seduction26/08/11 09:51 PM
2

Have you has success picking up at concerts? I used to go all the time in high school, but I was a massive AFC back then and I generally crashed & burned. Haven't tried recently, but I've always thought it would be tough getting girls to take their attention off the stage and onto you. Would love an FR.
/r/seduction26/08/11 09:46 PM
2

I've tried that exactly twice so far and got two awesome relationships out of it. So...I disagree.
/r/seduction26/08/11 06:05 PM
3

So much this. This mentality has changed my life.
/r/seduction26/08/11 06:04 PM
0

I always thought "alpha as hell" was a general guideline for seduction. I'm curious why the post ticked you off though.
/r/seduction26/08/11 03:05 PM
5

http://reddit.com/r/100sets
/r/seduction26/08/11 01:39 PM
2

Who cares? You'll improve, that's the point.
/r/seduction26/08/11 12:54 PM
3

I do what I can.
/r/seduction26/08/11 11:38 AM
0

Thanks for sharing. Were you trying to pick me up? I'm taken FYI, but I have some friends you might want to meet.
/r/seduction26/08/11 11:22 AM
1

Fuck that! The last one I met there got all dressed up for me in this sexy bikini, went out for a drive with me, then proceeded to intentionally choke me with the chain I BOUGHT her as a GIFT. Fucking cocktease. It's all twi'leks for me from now on; those sluts will do anything for a little head.
/r/seduction26/08/11 04:44 AM
1

I meant this, from lepoutine's comment: You: "Yea? Well I work in the server room..." I don't think he meant it as douchey as it sounded in my head, but it could backfire without really good delivery. Besides, it shuts down the thread of the discussion. Instead of just a setup for a quick tease, that conversation could be deeper and more personally engaging: You: "So how do you like your cubicle? I envy you, getting to work in one of these." Her: "Really? Why?" You: "Because you're so close to e…
/r/seduction25/08/11 02:18 PM
1

Mindset win.
/r/seduction25/08/11 12:28 PM
1

Ah, that makes sense.
/r/seduction25/08/11 04:21 AM
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No, dude, tejmin is right. Your post is exactly what the recent post on getting past small talk is meant to break away from. Also, maybe it's just how you wrote it, but the "server room" line sounds kind of douchey.
/r/seduction25/08/11 01:54 AM
1

Hold up, what's BP? I don't know that one, and it's not in the glossary.
/r/seduction24/08/11 09:56 PM
1

How is your game different with them than with other girls? What works/doesn't work?
/r/seduction24/08/11 03:57 PM
1

Far as I know, nobody did. Some minor building damage, and I hear there was flooding at the Pentagon, but nothing to freak about. Supposedly people felt it as far north as New York and as far south as Georgia. Link if you're interested
/r/seduction24/08/11 03:53 PM
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Fair enough, but I wouldn't wait. Just because you don't usually go out for lunch, that doesn't mean you can't start. Make it a part of your mission to explore your surroundings and the people (male and female) in them. Sometimes you have to wait for your moment, but sometimes you've got to make things happen or the moment will pass.
/r/seduction24/08/11 03:43 PM
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I also used to date another girl from work, whom I knew only barely until the office Christmas party. I had a couple drinks to loosen myself up, then was as social as possible, finally isolating her and getting her to come with me to meet some friends out on the town. We ended up dating for a few months. What worked for me (in both this and the lunch scenario) was that I changed my persona once we were in a casual setting, causing her to reevaluate her impression of me. She saw that "casual me" …
/r/seduction24/08/11 03:23 PM
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This has worked for me: Get a couple of friends together to go out to lunch. On your way out, ask her if she wants to go. Try to control the seating at the table so you isolate her, and then spend the rest of the outing being fun. Talk with everyone at first, then ask her about herself and get into a conversation together. Talk about your dreams, your adventures, whatever makes you exciting. Ask her about her own. Don't make it obvious you're into her: You're just having a business lunch. Wow, s…
/r/seduction24/08/11 03:02 PM
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Quite a while, actually. The main shaking was like 10 seconds, but I could feel residual vibration for probably at least a minute. I'm surprised you didn't hear about it! Reddit, Facebook, and the media have been practically pissing themselves. I actually used it as opener material, and had an awesome random conversation with this elderly Israeli guy and his cute MILF daughter. Saw my neighbor heading out later on and opened her with it; same thing with the girl who works downstairs. Seddit woul…
/r/seduction24/08/11 02:51 PM
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There was a 5.9 earthquake on the East Coast yesterday. I was fairly close (< 100 mi) to the epicenter when it hit. It was actually kind of fun, since I figured out right away that I wasn't in danger.
/r/seduction24/08/11 02:29 PM
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Define "serious"? I was pretty close to that 5.9 yesterday. BTW, juggling is easier to learn than you think. There's hardly any technique to it, you just get 3 balls or beanbags and practice until you don't drop them anymore.
/r/seduction24/08/11 02:21 PM
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Please do an FR. I've been wondering how to go about doing this, haven't really tried.
/r/seduction24/08/11 02:17 PM
1

Me too, but my point was "equally", as in the average for both genders. I think we're basically in agreement, but I think guys are much more likely to accept (hot) beta females than women are to accept beta males.
/r/seduction24/08/11 03:18 AM
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Interesting. I'll experiment, it's worth a try.
/r/seduction23/08/11 11:50 PM
1

Many things are attractive to both sexes; but not all, and not equally. Are both genders equally attracted to boobs? Why should they be equally attracted to, say, dominance and leadership?
/r/seduction23/08/11 10:14 PM
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I fucking love running game. Even when I have a GF or I'm not interested for whatever reason, I'll often run game just to have fun, soak up attention, and work on my skills. Some of my best improvement has come when I wasn't trying to seal the deal.
/r/seduction23/08/11 09:35 PM
1

I got that part. I mean which one? Should they match the line of your eyes, or the line of your ears, or what?
/r/seduction23/08/11 09:26 PM
3

Indicator Of Interest. It means a sign (usually unconscious) that she's interested. Edit: Glossary
/r/seduction23/08/11 09:20 PM
2

The fuck? Dude, those aren't deal breakers, they're just ASD. Obviously you successfully passed it, too. What are you complaining about?
/r/seduction23/08/11 09:07 PM
1

Interesting. How exactly is the sideburn thing supposed to work? If they're not supposed to be symmetrical, where should they be?
/r/seduction23/08/11 09:04 PM
1

ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction23/08/11 09:01 PM
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That might have been your fault, dude. Don't offer, lead: Try finding something exciting to do, leading (not asking) her to do that, and moving to Plan B only if she straight up shoots that down. Don't be a pushy jerk, but don't force her to make the decisions. It's your job to be exciting and decisive.
/r/seduction23/08/11 08:56 PM
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It's a mistake to think men and women should have the same desires or relationship roles. That's not sexist; it's the foundation of everything on seddit. Both deserve respect, neither is better, but that doesn't mean we're the same.
/r/seduction23/08/11 08:50 PM
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An entitlement mentality. People who think they "deserve" something, and that it's your job to provide it for them. E.g. that girl who wanted her BF's phone, or my brother's ex who constantly wanted him to rearrange his life because she "deserved" skiing every weekend and a garage (seriously). This should be a huge deal breaker for everyone. It is the deal breaker for me. It's a huge character flaw, it's annoying, it's high-maintenance as hell, and these people are FAR more likely to cheat ("he'…
/r/seduction23/08/11 08:40 PM
2

This is interesting. What are you hoping to accomplish with the exercise?
/r/seduction23/08/11 08:16 PM
2

she likes to listen to the Vanilla Ice song "Go Ninja" ಠ_ರೃ
/r/seduction23/08/11 08:13 PM
10

Dude...why didn't you open? Major IOIs and compliance there!
/r/seduction23/08/11 08:10 PM
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Go for it, dude. Congratulations. Make sure you make up for the lack of kino next time you see her.
/r/seduction23/08/11 12:27 PM
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Go for it. Seddit is with you. Be sure to update when you can.
/r/seduction23/08/11 06:40 AM
1

To me, that shows neediness more than confidence. He spent his time composing a tribute to her -- that shows he sees her as higher value than he is, someone to be pursued and fawned over.
/r/seduction23/08/11 06:03 AM
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bitches love King Kones You must be new.
/r/seduction22/08/11 09:59 PM
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I don't know what you're doing at the gym or whatever, but it sounds like it's fucking working, dude.
/r/seduction22/08/11 09:57 PM
2

Keep us updated on whether you try to salvage this or just move on, and what the results are.
/r/seduction22/08/11 09:53 PM
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Enrique Iglesias: "Tonight I'm Fucking You", uncensored version Taio Cruz: "Break Your Heart" Sean Paul: "Press It Up" Sean Paul (this song just generally makes me happy and pumped) Vanessa da Mata (a Brazilian singer): "Voce Vai Me Destruir" Biggie: "Notorious B.I.G." Snoop Dogg: Almost anything off the Doggystyle album Lady Gaga: "Poker Face", I'm fucking serious The nice thing about the above (other than the Brazilian song) is that they're the same type of stuff you'll hear in a club, so they…
/r/seduction22/08/11 08:11 PM
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at best self-confident Did you mean un-self-confident (not sure how to write that)?
/r/seduction22/08/11 07:38 PM
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If you don't immediately know the answer to that, you need to spend more time on here. Writing a poem for a girl you're trying to get with is one of the worst moves I can imagine. Sorry to be blunt.
/r/seduction22/08/11 07:35 PM
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You probably "obeyed" too much Saturday night. You can avoid PDAs without pretending to be a friend, and that's not necessarily what "play nice" means. You probably acted a little too much like a puppy dog -- obedient, worshipful, and submissive. I would have avoided PDAs as requested, but kept a dominant frame and not put any active effort into looking like a friend. I would have expected her to come home with me afterward, too. I think she was interested in you, but you got a mad case of oneit…
/r/seduction22/08/11 07:11 PM
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I love this. Saved. I used to have a sort of FWB situation with a girl from a warmer climate than mine, so I called her Sunshine. Since I lived up north, I became Snowflake. Later on, she moved north and I was in the tropics, so we switched nicknames.
/r/seduction22/08/11 02:10 PM
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I'm going to be as honest and forthright as I can here, for your sake. You seem to have a lot of anxiety about other guys swooping in and dominating you, either socially or physically. Has this been a significant problem? Was there a threat of violence? The situations you describe sound like some AMOG being extremely aggressive, publicly humiliating you, and basically daring you to fight. How often does this happen to you? On point 7 -- Who said you have to be an expert in everything? I would ju…
/r/seduction22/08/11 02:26 AM
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Your first time is going to suck, no matter what you do. Better to just get it out of the way and move on. Trust me, I did something similar and waited a bit. Looking back, there wasn't much point and I should have just gone ahead and done it. TL;DR: Trying to find a meaningful relationship is a good idea, but don't bother waiting until then to have sex.
/r/seduction21/08/11 07:24 PM
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It actually sounds like she had a seizure. Seriously. They can also affect the person's emotional state even after the seizure has passed. Not your fault at all, and I hope she was okay.
/r/seduction21/08/11 07:20 PM
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Considering that your family assumed, by default, that you would "run off with some girl," I'd say high fives are in order.
/r/seduction21/08/11 04:44 PM
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Thirded. I was about to post this. The other ones are fine, but lying about being in the Marines is a ticket to hell (and easy to backfire).
/r/seduction20/08/11 02:53 PM
1

That's a little hardcore. I don't think that would work until long after you'd already made the transition to a sexual conversation.
/r/seduction19/08/11 07:45 PM
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the rule in my room is women can't enter with shirts on That's gold.
/r/seduction19/08/11 07:26 PM
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I like the 75 joke, I've used similar ones and they worked great. Plus you can tease her with different ages and gauge her reaction to each one. When you find the one she likes, that becomes your real age. She might not believe you, but by then you've shown her it doesn't matter to you, and telling herself she believes you gives her an excuse to drop the ASD/shit test. However, the time to do that was after the first or second time she asked. You're going to have some trouble getting past it now…
/r/seduction19/08/11 04:29 PM
1

Me too.
/r/seduction19/08/11 04:05 PM
1

This is awesome. Will try it at some point and report back afterward.
/r/seduction18/08/11 09:11 PM
1

Dude I have no idea why you were downvoted. Online chat is a fucking gold mine, as is txting.
/r/seduction18/08/11 09:04 PM
2

Loud atmosphere in bars is a great excuse for kino. You can lean in close, put a hand on her waist while you talk to her, and if it's really loud you can hold the back of her head to pull her ear closer. Plus, it forces you to communicate physically instead of verbally. One night I was running maybe my best game ever on this super hottie, tons of kino and flirting, charming her friends, the whole deal. We moved into a much noisier part of the club, and she tried to say something, but I couldn't …
/r/seduction18/08/11 07:17 PM
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