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awwwww lol :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 12:17 AM
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as a woman, what men think of me literally determines my worth in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 11:48 PM
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I had to take a break from that too actually. I used to read there but not post a lot and eventually I coudln't handle it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 11:10 PM
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So far my perspective is similar to yours- that I am worthless after the next 5 years. I don't see what you're saying on that topic that I don't already believe, other than how mentally superior men are about their own problems, which wasn't even part of my OP in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 11:09 PM
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oh, I'm always the one who initiates sex in my relationship and we split all dates so I guess I'm viewing it through that lens. If we go on vacation, I pay half. I pay half our bills, half our rent. I have a job, though- I find it odd how TRP often bashes women who work as masculine and unattractive, but if a woman doesn't work, then yeah, you're stuck doing all the legwork usually. I can see why other men may get screwed, but that's not how I treat men personally. It's not uncommon for me to pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 11:08 PM
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those are probably spot on from what I've seen in real life. good point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 10:59 PM
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in regards to the last thing, I was torn a new asshole on TBP because of some ancient comment I made half-agreeing with someone who said that victims of adultery or abuse "always knew" and are somewhat to blame. I actually disagreed, but I kind of conceded to avoid drama and getting banned, plus I was able to agree that any person bad enough to be a serial cheater or abuser probably has a shitty personality and there are warning signs. I was then instructed that it was my moral responsibility to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 10:57 PM
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according to the chart, men have to wait longer to become attractive but wind up with a way sweeter deal and more good years and according to TRP even average looking middle aged men can easily game perfect 10s all the time. Given those facts, if they're true, men get a way better deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 10:42 PM
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So I've got 5 years left. Can you see why I might get a little emotional over the fact that I will only serve a purpose on this earth for another 5 years, I will only be attractive for another 5 years? I mean assuming I live till 70, what exactly am I supposed to do other than wallow in sadness for the 40 years after that Also if I only have 5 years left, then what I'm saying isn't full of shit, it's right in line with what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 10:24 PM
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How is the first comment not rational? Women over 25 are unattractive, I am 25....ipso facto, I am unattractive. 80% of what a woman offers to a man is her looks according to TRP, so ipso facto I have almost nothing to offer. as for andy warhol, anyone supporting shooting him in the name of feminism is an extremist and as you can see, this post blames both extremes equally, as well as my own fragile mental state, for what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 10:13 PM
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ok, so I wasn't even going to respond to anything but here goes, whatever 1- I admitted that in addition to being female, I'm a very emotional person, you're not telling me anything I don't know. I also have a diagnosed anxiety disorder which I'm in the process of treating, but I don't believe in medication, soo...yeah, I still have anxiety 2- Considering what I've seen on TRP, what I'm saying is emotional but a reflection of the truth- that at this age, I am pretty much useless. I don't see how…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 09:53 PM
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I just want to point out there has been a lot if down voting which is a pussy move and not allowed on this sub. I don't make weird ad hominem insults even if I think people are being weirdos , so if you disagree with me that's fine but either respond normally or just ignore me, as down voting is against this subs policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 07:11 AM
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They somehow found a way to accuse me of victim blaming and pedophelia and I'm a woman and didn't even write the comment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 07:09 AM
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lol, thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 05:02 AM
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Ok there we go! Logic!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 05:01 AM
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That all makes sense. I think both people in a marriage need to constantly strive to improve and make things interesting, or else there's no hope. We are planning to get married very soon and already I am working my hardest to spice things up, and we don't even need much spicing right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 05:00 AM
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Oh lol my bad again. I thought you said every year, which is one reason I was so skeptical considering mine has risen since I was 18. I do think men's sex drives drop too, though. Women depriving men of sex is a more common narrative but you'd be surprised how many women have confided in me that they can't get sex from their husbands (and these are thin, attractive, under-35 women). Usually the husbands are citing "stress" as the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 04:56 AM
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See, I would approach these studies from a different point of view. I don't think that women's sex drive actually declines by 20% every year (this was your original statement, no?) but it would make sense for it to decline every decade. That said, if it's every decade, the difference between marrying a 19 year old vs a 24 year old would be negligible. However I don't think it's all biological sex drive that is decreasing. I think it's a matter of monogamy taking a toll on both partners, especial…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 04:51 AM
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This is a logical answer, good job. But presumably if you met someone in her early or mid 20s who didn't have all that baggage, you wouldn't be opposed to dating her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 04:47 AM
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I don't mean whether or not his wife will still put out, but rather whether or not he will derive any sexual satisfaction from even having sex with her in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 04:47 AM
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I see he struck again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 03:59 AM
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Well that's logical for many reasons. There are some middle aged men who claim to have similar standards but they're either talking a big game, literal billionaires, or they have sex very rarely (or with prostitutes, idk)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 03:36 AM
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Makes sense. So if a man stats with his wife is he still deriving any joy from that union once she's 30, or is he just dutifully marching into sexual agony?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 03:30 AM
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In what ways? There's no medical reason why women would deteriorate after 18. Unless you are referring to the freshman 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 03:23 AM
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I forget the screen name but it was a recent one where I told him it was the best so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 02:35 AM
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Sorry about that, I didn't read the context and I confuse SNs all the time. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 02:09 AM
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good points all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 02:01 AM
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I think all people find the same traits on average appealing, with some variation. So for example most women like tall men, but if you're a 5/10, you're going to compromise in order to find someone and maybe you'll end up with a short guy or average looking guy or whatever. Of course there is a theory both with extreme feminism and extreme TRP that as long as you have a great personality and/or "game" you can get literally anyone, but I think most real people are aware this isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:56 AM
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Probably the best thought out answer I've gotten so far. This is very understandable. It doesn't account for the men who REFUSE to date ANYONE over 20 or whatever, but I'm aware most men don't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:49 AM
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a huge part of me actually thinks that it's a way smarter move to just marry a "beta" even if he is slightly less sexually appealing. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:46 AM
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no worries, i'd be interested to see it when you get the chance!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:46 AM
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No person can have it all, really. I do think life is happier for post-wall women than TRP would have you think, but I don't think it's as happy and easy as most feminists and BP women would have you think. Your SMV certainly does decrease, but it's not 100% dependent on age. A 30-year-old woman who has spent her years doing cocaine and binge-eating is certainly going to see an earlier and more drastic decline than a woman who spent that time socializing, doing yoga, and drinking water.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:45 AM
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I'm not bitter about it (I actually specifically said I'm not- I'm in a relationship and I'm perfectly fine with other people doing whatever they want). I'm just puzzled by the logic of it, although I've gotten some decent answers already. What makes you think I'm not going to like it? I just want logical explanations, I don't care if they seem "mean" as long as they have a basis in logic. By the way, I don't doubt that it's personal preference. I just want to understand the specifics and psycho…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:40 AM
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I'm not being snarky, but do you have a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:38 AM
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So you personally wouldn't have the desire to cheat/divorce a woman because of her age?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:36 AM
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I agree with all of what you just said. My question is- let's say you're 25 and marry a 23 year old. Then eventually she's 30 and you're 32. Do you just leave her after that? What's your plan then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:36 AM
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Ok makes sense. For one night stands though, that doesn't seem to make much sense. It seems quite arbitrary, and most of the men who do this aren't looking for marriage. But as for marriage, really that just means that you will have a hot wife for several more years than you would otherwise (and even then, provided the woman has good habits and lifestyle she can look good after 25). So anyway, let's say you marry a 20 year old woman. What do you do when she turns 30? Do you just cheat on her, di…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:32 AM
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I think 18 year olds are universally attractive regardless of how old the man is, I doubt they will ever repulse you. I just also think that it would be ridiculous for you to be 40 and only date 18 year olds, as though there was actually any difference between them and women out of college. Although if you managed that, all the more power to you for pulling it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:29 AM
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I agree with that, it makes sense (in regards to the fairytale prince scenario). But presumably, a single woman at 30 won't look very different from a married woman at 30, no? If anything single women put more effort into their appearance at that age. Most married women have had a kid by 30, cut their hair and gave up. At least that's what I see (although it's not what I intend to do, lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:27 AM
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So the only reason a man stays with his wife after 30 is because of divorce laws?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:25 AM
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Does estrogen actually reach its high point at 18? I was under the impression that it peaked generally between 18-25, but not necessarily specifically at 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:25 AM
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Makes sense. In regards to LTR/marriage though, if TRP draws the line at 30, then what do they do when they marry a woman who's, say, 23...and seven years later she turns 30? Do they just encourage cheating on her after that, divorcing her, or does the wall somehow not apply to married women? That's actually the one part of TRP that makes me think it's a more strategic move for women to just marry young to reliable betas who won't cheat on them. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:16 AM
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Does sex drive actually decrease after 18?? I experienced the opposite. And obviously, as you're in your early 20s this isn't as much of a big deal for you. I'm mostly talking about men in their 40s who do this, and who consider women in their mid-late 20s "too old". I'm assuming you're looking for LTR, which would explain not wanting someone who had already done the "cock carousel" thing. But what I find interesting is that there are anti-LTR men who Still won't date anyone over 18. So...why? A…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:09 AM
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lol no, to be honest maybe it's bc I haven't been with many men but I actually forget what the penises of previous lovers looked like. I don't even really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:07 AM
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I think as a rule (and I'm not BP) the age of consent is where it should be. Would I be slightly judgmental and weirded out by a 50 year old man and 18 year old girl? Yea, same if the genders were reversed. It's weird. But I can't think of any legitimate reason why it's immoral. Sure, it's possible that some 18 year olds aren't "ready" for sex but same with some 25-year-olds. Hell, I know a 30 year old man who is not mature enough to be sleeping with anyone. However I do think it's odd that anyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:03 AM
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I'm a little confused. These aren't adjectives, they're nouns.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:01 AM
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Thanks. There is one particular poster who I'm pretty sure downvotes whatever I say because whenever I address him, I see that all my comments to him were downvoted, even if they weren't disagreeing. But I can't verify that he's doing it, so I won't say who. It drives me nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 12:51 AM
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Me personally- very important, but I'll sacrifice some things. For example, if there's a fantasy I want to do and the love of my life doesn't want to do it, I can let the fantasy go and be just fine. But regular sex is very important. If I'm not getting regular sex (and there is no legit medical reason) I think that is grounds for serious action to be taken. Not necessarily divorce, but I wouldn't be ok with it. As for other people, I think it really depends on the sex drive level. Many BP women…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 12:50 AM
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haha well I'm exaggerating but it's the whole "eat a cheeseburger" thing, which I also can't stand bc even if you do need to gain weight you shouldn't do it by eating a cheeseburger
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 10:52 PM
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Oh, I see what you mean. You make a great point re: spot reduction. Even plus-size models tend to be hourglasses so IMO it's more of a shape than size thing. I'm shocked that people are rude enough to tell you to lose weight out of nowhere! I would only ever say that to someone if they asked. Sorry they were such jerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 10:51 PM
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ok, but if people settle for less than the ideal all the time, then what's the problem? If you were medically underweight and one specific guy told you to lose weight, he was probably A.) trying to "neg" you or just be an asshole or B.) really weird. Most men wouldn't dream of saying that. Did tons and tons of men tell you that you were fat while you weren't? Probably not. Actually, in the interest of being polite, even shallow men wouldn't tell a heavy woman to lose weight, most of the time. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 08:28 PM
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lol good point. make sure you at least have a mat haha
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/14 08:21 PM
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Assuming you can't just go to the gym every day (not possible for everyone) try this: 1.) While watching TV, do crunches throughout the commercials- or jumping jacks, etc. 2.) Do housework. You'd be shocked at how many calories it burns. 3.) Walk everywhere, if you can. 4.) In the shower, do some squats while waiting for conditioner to soak in (just as awkward, lol) 5.) While reading, see how long you can hold a plank.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/14 08:10 PM
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High five for fellow oily! I find that Trader Joes regular moisturizer actually has a lot of powerful anti aging ingredients (vitamin A and E etc). Do not fall for expensive face creams that have fancy unrecognizable extracts in them...the basic vitamins and moisture is really all your skin needs!
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/14 08:08 PM
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I like to keep track of how many glasses I drink per day, sort of have a contest with myself, lol. I also drink a lot of tea, which is healthy but not hydrating, so I have to chug a 16 oz glass of water before EACH cup of tea.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/14 08:05 PM
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I'll write a longer reply later, but it came from a term for the wolf packs' roles. The alpha is the head of the pack, and the beta is actually like second-in-command. It doesn't mesh at all with how TRP uses it. However TRP's definition is still useful for what they discuss- Alpha IMO is the purely sexually appealing side of a man- powerful, confident, dominant, etc. Whereas beta are the more reliable, comforting aspects of a man which are seen as bad in the scheme of hookups (wimpy). In a rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 07:55 PM
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Ah, I see. I agree!
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/14 07:52 PM
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I 100% agree with that. The problem is a lot of people believe that men who prefer thin women- like yourself- are shallow, brainwashed and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 07:51 PM
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Thanks for the reply- I hope I read all of it thoroughly enough, lol! What I've said to others here is that while I know our culture may have put forth an ideal for both men and women (nobody talks about short men and how tough it is for them- but you did, so thanks!) but I believe that most people are aware it's just a fantasy. If men truly desired that all women look like supermodels and required that as a minimum of beauty, then average-looking or less than average-looking women would just NE…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 07:50 PM
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1.) Who said they would only listen to you if you were thin? I'd take your post with the same merit if you were fat. Doesn't matter to me. Also thanks for answering :) 2.) IF by slender men, you mean men who are skinnier than the ideal, then that's not the same thing as a man who prefers thin women. If a man preferred drastically underweight bony women, that would actually be quite off from the ideal. A man liking slender women is at the same level as a woman liking tall or muscular men- and mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 07:43 PM
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Isn't that stuff happening after they've already gotten married/had kids? Or are you referring to someone who does that stuff while you're just dating?
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/14 07:34 PM
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But surely, if men thought that all women were supposed to look like supermodels, then only perfect-looking women would get married. We live in a country where the majority of people are fat, and most of those people do get married. There is no evidence to suggest that men are pickier than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 07:06 PM
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That's fair. I just think "don't settle" can so easily be transferred into princess behavior and an "I'm too good for everyone" mindset. I agree you shouldn't choose a guy you have zero attraction to- the goal should be to make the best of yourself so that you can score someone who you are attracted to, instead of just expecting it all to come to you magically.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/14 03:28 AM
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I always worry that I'm not as good as my SO although others say otherwise- not sure what that means. I also have some anxiety problems though, so maybe I should just be happy in the present! I will say that before him, I deliberately looked for low value men. But anyway good points!
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/14 02:34 AM
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Oh no, I'm aware and it doesn't sound fun lol. I'm just going off genetics, what happened for other women in my family. I know nothing is for sure. If it helps, I just asked him if he would actually leave me if I got fat while pregnant and he said of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 02:26 AM
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Some of it is fine, but the "creepy guys" "icky guys" "don't settle" focuses on having sky-high standards without improving yourself- not to mention the glorification of binge eating and drinking.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/14 02:18 AM
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I have a low tolerance for this kind of thing. I couldn't even read past "Don't settle." So basically, regardless of who you are, expect the best from everyone and everything around you, never worry about improving yourself? Solid advice. Let's see where that takes anyone.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/14 02:18 AM
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Not to get off topic, but what IYO is a sign that a man will be a cheater later on? Other than the obvious- having cheated on tons of women before hand (or worse, if he cheated on YOU with his last wife and you think he'll change..ugh)
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/14 02:13 AM
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The comment about VS models doesn't even come close to body-shaming, but I'll indulge and say it was a generalization. I'm basing this off the fact that while VS does mostly appeal to women, the VS models are often the objects of male desire as well- some of them have posed in men's magazines, and they don't look very different from the women in Playboy- the only difference is that those women tend to have fake boobs, VS models tend to have real ones that are smaller. It's partially about supply…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 02:11 AM
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Do people usually know someone is going to be a cheater when they start dating them? I would think it comes as a surprise. Abuse, probably you always know.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/14 02:03 AM
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Can confirm it was a joke, but also you don't have to get fat because you're pregnant. Only a slight weight gain is recommended- I know many women who gained the recommended amount instead of eating for two , they wound up getting in shape after birth. They were naturally thin to begin with of course, but so am I. I don't foresee gaining 50 lb just because I have a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 01:25 AM
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That's fair, but given my anxiety I discuss those possibilities with him a lot. I can't say for sure how he'd react only because you never know. But I don't think it would be worse than any other guy. As for pregnancy, unless you wind up with some hormonal problem you don't have to get fat from it . My mother lost her weight relatively easily after having me but after having my sister she kept most of it on. I asked her if it was random and she said she just didn't try or prioritize her weight a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 01:21 AM
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Where exactly did I shame other bodies? The VS models are chosen for their attractiveness so while I'm sure some guys genuinely don't find them hot, I suspect the men who loudly declare this in front of their wives WHILE watching the show. Also my body is not the ideal, that would be more like Kim Kardashian or Christina Hendricks. There are men out there who would not consider me womanly enough because I don't have huge boobs. In addition while I used myself as an example I'm not asking "why do…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 12:42 AM
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well, it's a theory! I do believe that gay people (and gay dolphins/apes which also exist) are born that way and that it's not a choice, so there probably is some kind of explanation for why more intelligent species tend to have different sexual orientations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 09:54 PM
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Where did I say I was terrified that he had preferences I don't meet? He made one joke about not wanting me to get fat, and I thought it was funny. I know he likes skinny legs which I don't have, and I don't care because other things I have make up for it, and it isn't that important. In all seriousness, I do fear divorce more than most people because I saw it destroy some families I'm very close with. But that doesn't mean I think my SO is more likely to divorce me than any other man. I'm just …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 09:09 PM
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Lol you cared enough to lecture me about my SO being immature and shallow. I can only imagine if I was so insignificant, you wouldn't even have taken the time to tell me this- twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 09:01 PM
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Good answer. I'm not accusing TRP of being homophobic or anything (although I'm sure there are a few homophobic members, like any diverse sub) it's more like I'm wondering how gay behavior is explained in a world where everything surrounds biological/evolutionary imperative. Most people's behavior is explained on TRP as something having to do with them being male or female. In a way, lesbians and gay men are the ultimate "NAMALT/NAWALT" since the main facet of human behavior according to TRP ("w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 09:00 PM
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Oh thank Gosh it's not just me. The other day I actually wound up yelling at him to get out of the kitchen and relax (???) and he was like "you could just thank me" i felt so bad! lol. But I wound up cleaning the floor like nobody's business ANd cleaning the bathroom too.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 08:56 PM
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Awww thanks :) Sometimes I lose my temper though, I feel bad, like I get home and make food for a while (I make several courses so I can serve them throughout the week) and then SO comes in and goes "The floor is dirty" and at that point I feel like...REALLY?! I'm doing all this and you come in and get mad about the floor? (I know this is bad, just admitting it!) It also doesn't help that if SO cleans, I feel less adequate as a woman, even though I know I already have a lot on my plate. So I'll …
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 08:51 PM
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I understand TRP focuses on heterosexuality and that's totally fine! My question was that since TRP tends to explain human behavior from an evolutionary standpoint, I was wondering what their feelings were about gay people, who don't have the desire to reproduce with the opposite sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 08:49 PM
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Okay, that's interesting. What about lesbians though? I don't think they have tops and bottoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 08:49 PM
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Certainly, some. But I've also seen gay people in relationships where neither person seemed more masculine than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 08:48 PM
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Wow, your friend sounds insane, lol. You're lucky that you get to be a full time homemaker. That's not in the stars for me, i actually need to work in order to help pay our rent lol. But I do often daydream. As a result I am pretty busy- I work normal hours, go to the gym, clean and cook when I get home. Whew.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 08:19 PM
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I have a degree, the subject matter did little for my career, but the networking done at college was really valuable. I don't think degrees are inherently useless or bad, because a lot of jobs require a college degree and in this economy it's really hard for a woman to not work. Trust me, if I had that option it would be awesome, I could just do my creative projects, take care of the house, cook and do yoga. But that's not in the cards for me.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 08:05 PM
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You sound a lot like me :) I should point out though that I still have my moments where I do feel powerful, but I don't derive it from being snarky or sassy or ball-busting. Maybe powerful is the wrong word. Confident? Like for me, when I manage to make a kick-ass meal, throw a great party, do something selfless for my SO or a friend, I feel very confident and successful. I also work, but a lot of my pride comes from homemaking abilities and it's a shame those are seen as "useless" by the femini…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 08:01 PM
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Oh yes, that old song and dance. I really wish people would just focus on themselves instead of "society". You can't force others to change.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 08:00 PM
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Yeah, thanks! Funny enough, my partner has a lot of the traits my dad has.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 08:00 PM
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ITA with all of this. i was also generally encouraged to be "one of the boys" and I quickly figured out it was not only unnatural for me, but not very effective when it came to attracting mates. lol
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 07:55 PM
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Oh, I see what you mean. I think D/S is great. I don't do it myself but people who do seem to enjoy it. It's really a personal choice. But it's important to know that even if you have a D/S relationship dynamic, it doesn't mean you have to engage in BDSM in the bedroom.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 07:53 PM
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Me too :) I agree with this completely. So much of sex is emotional for me (even though I'm quite high-drive) so I don't think I'd enjoy it much if there was no emotional connection, or if I never got time to explore and understand the other person's body. One thing I love about sex with SO is being able to know what he likes (and vice versa). With a new person, you're just guessing, and then you don't even get to have sex with them again if it's a ONS. Where's the fun? Let's just say a guy woul…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 07:49 PM
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LOL. I love PPD sub (I don't agree with 100% of stuff said on TRP or here, so I discuss my beliefs there when they're more middle-ground) but I just got lectured there about how so many women really love and enjoy casual sex. Do they though? Like, really? I can't imagine why. I had a few hookups when single (no sex though) and it was miserable. And I don't think I'm special enough to be an outlier. Not to mention that so many women I know who did have ONS later told me they regretted it and they…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 07:42 PM
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Well, this makes me happy! Rest assured there is hope. lol Out of curiosity, are these girls plates because they choose to be plates, or because something about them designates them as plates to you? (flaws, etc?) I'm always so curious about this so I'd love to hear your story.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 07:40 PM
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Great points all around! Although I'm not sure if that would actually be more emotionally charged...either way it's a tough but selfless decision!
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 07:04 PM
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I don't think I can actually click on these articles or else I'll drive myself crazy. I'm a millenial and this attitude drives me nuts- it would drive me less nuts if they just behaved this way and didn't try to convert everyone else, but I've been lectured so many times about how I'm settling down too young, how I "need to travel" (I can travel with my boyfriend actually) and all this shit about "when you get older, someday you'll realize what you missed out on." It makes me really happy to see…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 06:59 PM
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That's a good point. I think adoption would be so heart-wrenching for the mother, but it is the most selfless option. I can't even say that I'd be able to muster it, to be honest!
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 06:57 PM
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There seems to be an ideal for the huge age relationship gaps on TRP but all studies have shown that an age difference of several years (man being 4-5 yrs older than the woman) is ideal. In fact, Athol Kay from MMSL said a 4 year difference is ideal, and he's quite RP. Sure, marrying a wealthy middle-aged George Clooney might be cool since he's so sexy now, but it's only a good 10-20 years before he starts getting "old-old" and then you're stuck widowed at 40. And let's not forget that if you've…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 06:46 PM
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As for the knocked up before marriage- presumably in this day and age everyone has sex before marriage. Even with birth control, things can still screw up! Is it better if a woman has an abortion? To me it seems like in that situation, the most honorable thing to do would be to keep the baby and try to make it work with the father.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 06:43 PM
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Yeah, there is a lot of shaming in general about what men have to like. Men don't have to like what they don't like, same with women.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 06:41 PM
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i actually think they would, but not necessarily- after all, I don't think kids who have two gay parents are necessarily going to be screwed up. I think it's more the fact that divorce in general is really hard on kids, coupled with the fact that having one parent of either gender means less time that parent can spend with the kid.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 06:41 PM
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If a man chooses to be with an abusive, cheating woman- is that also his fault? I don't mean this in an accusatory way, I'm just curious.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/14 06:40 PM
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I don't think people choose to be fat per se, as I know many people who are trying to lose weight and having trouble. The issue IMO is the way food is marketed and processed nowadays- fat has become the enemy, but carbs are still very much encouraged, so a lot of "fat free" food is loaded with chemicals, sugar, etc. People think they're "dieting" but they're really eating loads of sugar! There's also the issue of exercise- women are encouraged to do lots of cardio, lest they "bulk up", but women…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 06:34 PM
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This is a great answer! 1.) Congrats on your bf :) People deviate around their "type" all the time. So I don't doubt that men like one thing but then meet someone else who doesn't look like that, but is sexy to them nevertheless. Which is good! 2.) It's a shame people have been rude about your body. I make a point never to do that, primarily bc of what I've experienced, but in the rare circumstances where I feel tempted to lash out at someone, it's because they jabbed at me first. Even then, I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 06:30 PM
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Oh, I don't think I ever wanted to ignore each other (if I said that, I'm sorry). It's a debate sub and sometimes I get a little angry. It blows over eventually, as I hope it does with everyone. 1.) I see what you meant about the vag thing now. lol. You didn't mention you had vaginismus though (I'm v. familiar with that disorder) so had you mentioned that, it would have come off a little better. The way it came off was "No offense, but I'm super tight and sexy, and I guess you must just be loose…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 06:24 PM
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Your friend was rude for saying that in front of her but all human beings have preferences. To me , being shallow is caring only about looks/money and only going for the hottest/richest person regardless of what other qualities they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 03:27 AM
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I said my partner made a joke about how he never wants me to get fat, and some woman butted in and said I was dating a shallow, immature asshole . Then she later went on to talk about how her SO also has preferences, just for "curves", as if that's any less shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 03:13 AM
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Touche. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 11:16 PM
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Not on this thread, but this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 11:15 PM
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I got disagreement on this sub! lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 10:21 PM
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The question was actually if there's anything wrong with MEN who prefer thin women, not thin women themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 10:10 PM
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Yes, someone commented that my SO was shallow and immature for saying he wanted me to stay in shape. I didn't see it as irrelevant, although I guess I could see why someone would. I think that shaming people for what they prefer is a sexual strategy that actually works pretty well in modern day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 09:59 PM
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Oh, this is all true, and I think the cock carousel exists, but I don't think it exists in the way that TRP tends to phrase it. I don't think women enjoy casual sex very much- I think that high-value (good looking, etc) men lower their standards for casual sex, so women are so taken by the compliment of a one night stand (and may even expect commitment later) so they go ahead and do it. it doesn't work, they don't understand why, so they continue the same thing with other guys who only want sex.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 09:37 PM
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LOL. Good responses all around. Why would that offend you? Men lower their standards a LOT for one night stands. That doesn't mean all women who have had one night stands are ugly, but if a guy wants to sleep with you once it's NOT a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 08:32 PM
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Is it casual because women want NSA flings, or because they think it could lead to more and are flattered that men out of their league want to hook up with them? I went to a school with a lot of hookups going on, and normally that was the narrative. On the outside it appeared like the women were just sex crazed sluts, but actually, they were going home with these guys because they thought it was step #1 to an MRS degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 08:20 PM
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by that do you just mean that you are skinny with a tiny waist and big boobs and butt? That is the ideal, you know. lol But anyway, good points all around. And you're right- he does want me to stay in shape and look as good as is possible for my age (I'm young now but he's aware I won't be forever) but he also puts in a great deal of effort to work out and eat healthy, so it's not unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 08:14 PM
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This is very accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 08:13 PM
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1.) Never said one night stands are immoral or that they shouldn't be done. I personally think they're a bad idea for me, but I wouldn't apply my own preferences to everyone in the world. I don't go around in bars trying to "save" women from going home with some dude. My original stance was that women have nothing to gain from them, when it comes to getting marriage or sexual satisfaction. I stand by that. 2.) Generally you can tell when a woman is parroting what she's seen on Jezebel when it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 08:12 PM
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I'm sure there are benefits to ONS but I'm just saying that in the long run they are really not very advantageous for women- along with the undeniable truth that women rarely O from them. There's also no biological imperative for them. The "freedom to enjoy it all" just sounds like feminist brainwashing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 08:01 PM
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Q: Why did I cross the road? A: To get the D.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 07:57 PM
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yeah, lol. it also could be a satire troll blog which is really common over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 07:53 PM
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I do, but not just because I have a hunch. http://healthland.time.com/2013/11/11/no-satisfaction-woman-are-less-likely-to-orgasm-during-casual-sex/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2505153/Why-night-stands-arent-worth-women-Theyre-HALF-likely-orgasm-men--relationship.html http://www.xojane.co.uk/sex/newsflash-most-women-probably-wont-orgasm-from-a-one-night-stand-and-thats-ok
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 07:49 PM
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We want the D!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 07:48 PM
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Well of course. And nobody is going to outwardly say it's 'wrong' but they will accuse the man of being shallow, immature, or even gay. (liking women = gay??) lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 07:47 PM
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Well yes, that's the point. If nobody is getting hurt, why criticize or get involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 07:41 PM
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I was actually just thinking about the Asian woman thing too!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 07:40 PM
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It's hard to empathize with someone who is directly insulting you, but stepping back for a moment, I do understand it and I wouldn't want to trade places. That is a great point about RP men by the way- I have noticed that too. I once argued with a guy about how it's possible to be too physically unattractive for a 9/10 girl. He wouldn't admit it. He said that any guy with the right game could get any girl and a girl is NEVER out of your league. I had a hard time empathizing with him though, beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 07:24 PM
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This is a great answer, I'm very hesitant to say "Well, they're obviously just jealous!" because that's so assy. lol I think a lot of women just assume that being thin is hard for everyone- so if a woman's husband prefers it, he's oppressing her. But damn, there are women who literally cannot put weight on even if they try (I'm not one of them, but staying thin is easy for me). Shouldn't they get a man who likes them the way they are? Also, SJ types have a problem with any kind of self improveme…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 07:21 PM
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I actually would like to hear from women who feel this way, just to see if this is true- I've gotten 2 downvotes (i thought this was against the rules) and nobody has actually come in to tell me why I'm wrong for defending this preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 07:04 PM
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I don't think he cares if people criticize him. It just irritates me because it's illogical, considering that other men are OK with their physical preferences and don't get any shit. But otherwise, great response.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 07:03 PM
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Sorry to butt in, I mostly agree with you but the teen pregnancy thing is true. I think anyone under 16 has a higher risk of pregnancy problems, premature birth, stillbirths, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 07:00 PM
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Casual sex is fun for MEN! It's just not usually very good for women. Our parts are a lot more complicated, as they directly correlate with our emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 06:39 PM
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Exactly! All the sex I had that didn't lead to a relationship was had with the intention of a relationship, I was just doing it wrong. Luckily it only happened a few times. I'm kind of laughing about the erotic poetry thing. Not at you, it just sounds like something out of an SNL skit! Good answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 06:36 PM
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Assuming you're not an April Fools troll, you're not the only one. I'm a former feminist too and I came into it much the way you did. I still consider myself a "feminist" in the sense that I think women shouldn't be blindly discriminated against just because of their gender, but I also think modern-day feminism overblows instances of "sexism" and has turned into a complete joke.
/r/RedPillWomen01/04/14 06:33 PM
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Oh, good point! I'm like the most religious person in my circle and I haven't gone to church in years, so we come from different backgrounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 06:28 PM
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LOL! Great cartoon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 06:12 PM
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yes, and for me it's about the number of partners over a period of time. if a 40 year old man has slept with 50 women, that's not really that crazy. if a 25 year old man has slept with 50 women, that's a bit unusual and it would make me wonder about whether or not he was being safe, if he was a "player", if he had commitment issues, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 06:10 PM
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I'm a woman and it depends on how high. I guess I'm equal-opportunity judgmental. If a man or woman has slept with upwards of 50 people in a few years, I'll be concerned that they have issues in that area, are incapable of committing, are self destructive or hard-partiers, etc. It wouldn't be my business, but I'd probably have nothing in common with both people. I would not date a man with a very high sexual partner count unless it had been a while ago and he had since calmed down.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 06:09 PM
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Most modern-day intelligent American feminists would probably have issues with a "sex strike" on those grounds, actually. It's the quasi-feminists who would support it- the women who use "feminism" as a way to criticize women who threaten or confuse them, and men who reject them. Those women aren't feminists in my book, although they very well could be BPers so I eagerly await their responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 06:07 PM
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I kind of wish pussy power was more real for me, lol. A few times I've jokingly offered to have sex with my partner if he did ___ for me, and he always just says "whatever, I know I'll get it from you anyway." Such is the life of a high-drive woman :/ If I were single, pussy power would totally be a thing. Single men who can't get sex whenever they want will go to such great extents to get sex. Being an attractive single young woman will get you a lot of societal advantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 06:05 PM
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I do think women downplay their desire for sex because it's less "feminine" or whatever (even on anonymous surveys they lie about their partner count!) but casual sex has very little to offer a woman. I do think women unnecessarily blame men- every woman had an "abusive" ex or a "crazy" ex (men kind of do the same thing) but generally, casual sex is so unpleasant physically that i don't see why any women would chase it. Most likely, what happens is that women chase "bad boys" for what they belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 06:02 PM
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Yeah, I don't get why wanting someone attractive is apparently some huge flaw. Pretty sure everyone wants someone attractive. I'm in my 20s myself, but I actually think more women 30-45 could be very attractive if they steered away from weight gain, short hair and the rest of the things that women tend to assume are standard past a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 05:56 PM
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Would that be considered "Male hamster"? Like when guys watch the VS fashion show and loudly declare "Those women need to gain 50 lb" and smile at their wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 05:54 PM
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This is a good point. I don't think that 20-year age differences are that common or practical (which is not to say they don't work for some people) and I also agree that young women are rarely "manipulated" by older men, young women by and large have the upper hand in that situation. If anyone "manipulates" younger women, it's young men who just want sex and aren't ready for commitment. I'm surprised you think most men would prefer to find a soulmate. I do know that even guys in my life who slee…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 05:54 PM
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She butted into my relationship earlier when I said my same-age partner made an obvious joke about how he'll love me forever "as long as you don't get fat" (which I found funny). She then called him "shallow" and continued to lecture me about how immature we both are for wanting a physically fit partner. I'm guessing she's one of those women who thinks men who prefer "curves" are somehow deeper than men who prefer flat tummies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 05:50 PM
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exactly, it might be close to the truth but I'm aware men (and women) alter what they say their preferences are to keep their partners happy. For example, my guy was a "legs" man when we met. I do not have good legs, but I have good other things. He's never once said that he likes long legs since then. I know he still does, but he'll never say it. He now says he's an ass man. I guess it's not far off from legs, but I'm sure it's partially to keep me at bay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 05:49 PM
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Hm. Interesting that you said my partner was "shallow" for making a joke about how he always wants me to stay fit, and your partner has the same amount of physical preferences. I guess men who prefer women who are "curvy" are somehow less shallow than the men who prefer slender women. Makes perfect sense! In all seriousness, I was actually talking to a guy in his 40s the other day, this guy does pretty well with women and has pulled women from 25-45. He'd probably be fine never getting married (…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 05:47 PM
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I actually don't see TRP talking about that. I see TRP saying that there is only one type of women, and you should never get married. lol In all seriousness, I think in reality some people are just better for marriage than others, which relies largely on their reliability, security (not just financially speaking) and loyalty. the man I've "settled down" with is actually more typically "alpha" than other guys I've dated, but i never really went after casual sex, so maybe I'm an outlier. One major…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 05:37 PM
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Because many people on both sides ARE hypocrites, lol Like how men who like thin women are shallow, but the women who say that still have physical preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 05:11 PM
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It's happened here. Nobody is calling me a cunt or anything. "Attack" may be the wrong word but there has been a lot of false "concern", condescension (which you did), and ad hominem insults directed at me and my relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 05:32 AM
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thanks! well, some good looking women have been pampered so they become entitled and selfish having never worked for anything (read: SOME) but otherwise, yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 11:17 PM
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Yeah, I mean if this is a big deal for both people and doesn't turn either of them off, that's fine. Unlike many people I'm not in the business of invading others' relationships and criticizing what they do consensually. But I don't know any women who actually want a guy to ask. Normally if a guy starts touching and she doesn't want sex, she'll say "Sorry, I don't want to."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 10:51 PM
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Realistically, I would hope that I was tall (lol) and I would make sure I looked good and had at least a decent job. Assuming I was myself except male, I'd want a wife and a family...so I'd probably avoid the bar scene except for fun nights with friends. I'd try to meet girls through friends, at gatherings and through mutual hobbies. Maybe even online dating, although that seems to be a shitstorm for men. I would try not to get overly attached to girls or be clingy/wimpy, I would attempt to give…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 10:40 PM
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Exactly. There's no legit erotic novel about a woman who is initially repulsed by a man, and then he rapes her and she's all over him. It's always that she really wants him but due to wanting to be "good" or whatever, she resists despite her urges, and so the "ravishment" is actually quite consensual. True rape fantasies are uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 10:27 PM
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I'm in an LTR and at this point we are quite blunt about wanting to have sex but at the beginning, you can't just say "want to have sex?" ESPECIALLY if you're a man. Most of the women I know would think this was dorky as fuck. The key is first of all not to have sex with girls who are intoxicated beyond the point of consent, because then you get into a bad area. Have sex with relatively sober adult women and usually, if they're into it, they will escalate it...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 10:26 PM
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I've had consensual sex for years without ever enthusiastically screaming "Yes, let's DO IT!" The fact that I'm touching him and escalating things usually gets the "consent" across. I really hope that in the future, people won't have to sign sex contracts and get written permission.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 10:24 PM
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I think it leans red, for sure, but I wouldn't say it's vote brigading since some of the more RP esque stuff I say get its fair share of downvotes (which I thought wasn't even allowed here?)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 10:14 PM
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1.) I'm not insulted that other women have vaginismus, it's a serious condition. I'm insulted that my not having it makes me "looser", and thus that's the only explanation for why I can have sex regularly, I'm clearly just such a loose woman when clearly vaginismus is the less common scenario. Perhaps it was your phrasing, but if you had vaginismus you could have just said so, instead of branding me "loose" for being able to perform a natural human function regularly. 2.) As for me "bringing it …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 10:13 PM
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Well, the vast majority of men like long hair, but of course there are men who love short hair. I met a guy who preferred boy-short hair on girls. He was a tad "alternative" so maybe that was why. But anyway, if your SO told you he preferred short hair in the first place, you're fine! Do all women prefer 6'4" men? Of course not! So it works as a generalization, much like the men/long hair thing, but you seem to be with a guy who doesn't have the typical preference. I wouldn't worry about his att…
/r/RedPillWomen31/03/14 10:07 PM
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This is a reasonable mindset. I wouldn't say it's 100% true but it's at least logical and fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 10:00 PM
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Is this person a scientist? I agree with most of the basic TRP things I see, but this sounds almost like a RP strawman. Does anyone genuinely believe men just keep getting sexier each year until they die? Like men have a "peak" too, I think it's just a little later than women's. There is no scientific evidence thus far to support the idea that women are incapable of love. If men are as shallow as this exact article suggests, then isn't it arguable that neither gender is capable of love because a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 09:59 PM
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Gendered slurs.....lol In all seriousness I have called women dicks and men cunts. Dickish behavior is being cocky, arrogant, rude, etc. Cunty behavior is being nasty, nit-picking, smarmy. Both can happen in either genders. At least that's how I see it. But moreover, you're taking it way too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 09:40 PM
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Potentially, although I think it's a bit of a stretch since I'm not sure small changes in hormone levels on average could be blamed for the feminist movement (and actually, didn't feminism begin in the late 1800s?) I would venture that the cause of this has to do with the focus on simple carbs and sugars instead of healthy fats and protein in our diet- that's been known to cause hormonal imbalances in both men and women. However I don't think those hormone imbalances are significant enough to ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 09:36 PM
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Well I'd venture it's case-by-case, I know people of both genders in their 20s who behave like they're 14. But if you're happy and she's happy I don't see why anyone feels the need to get involved. Only in recent decades has this become "immoral".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 09:04 PM
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The BP women here would say "you go girl!" Personally I think that's fine too. If you for any reason didn't feel comfortable with that, I presume she didn't have you locked in a basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 09:00 PM
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I think age of consent laws are necessary to prevent something like a 30 year old guy with a 14 year old or whatever, but I also think it's not up to me to judge who dates who, if it's legal and nobody is getting hurt (and by "hurt" I mean something tangible you can witness, not just "well it's creepy"). Unless she's your mistress and you're deceiving your wife, or unless you have her drugged 24/7 (and I doubt either of these scenarios are true) there's nothing inherently immoral about that rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 08:59 PM
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It is when "the wall" is something absurd like 25, and when they say it's some sudden thing where out of nowhere women become horribly disfigured and undesirable by all men. It's definitely reality if it's phrased as a gradual decline in a woman's looks (and "the wall" is the moment where she suddenly notices it, after thinking she would always have power over men). That's about accurate. But I don't think it starts as early as I've heard (I've even seen as young as 20, which is insane). It's pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 08:55 PM
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Yes, pretty much every woman dated a "sociopath" in the past. Who knew there were so many sociopaths out there! (I'm waiting for my usual BP female stalkers to comment on my post about how they really did date a sociopath- and they really do look 15 years younger than their age and they really are amazing at blow jobs despite not giving a shit about men) Sorry, I'm getting annoyed today. But I will say there's a male equivalent too. Every guy had a "crazy" ex. Either every single person is a soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 08:53 PM
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Yeah, because I was obviously referring to a husband of 23 years. If my current SO gets bald and fat (well, the bald thing he can't control- the fat thing we both plan to control as far as our age allows us, but I've met many-a fit middle aged person) of course I wouldn't care. I guess that's the husband/wife goggles thing. I'm obviously referring to meeting someone for the first time, if single, and still my age. I'm sure you knew that already, but it's in your interest to attack me personally,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 08:47 PM
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This sounds about right. A certain physical threshold needs to be passed for a woman to even be open to speaking to you, and then after that it's about your personality. I do know a few women who are 100% looks based and others who are 100% money based but they're outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 08:05 PM
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lol this is so true. I like this sub, but now I can't see anything without thinking of how it would be fought over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 08:03 PM
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Exactly. I've dated guys slightly under my league if you will, but there's no way in hell that a bald, middle-aged, morbidly obese man could say ANYTHING that would make me look past the physical. If a guy is slightly awkward or not muscular enough, or receding hairline but cute otherwise...fine, that could work. There is literally no behavior that could make up for 100% lack of sexual attraction. There is, however, behavior that can make up for physical flaws. So basically, if a girl is an 8, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 08:02 PM
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I think it's a combo. No obese guy could be "alpha" enough to make me suddenly attracted to him. For me it's like there's a level of looks that need to be reached for initial attraction (and that level isn't super high or anything) but then after the fact, I'll be more turned on by how a man acts. And I do like masculine men, but many of the tactics discussed on TRP fall under the category of "jerk game" and as a women with zero interest in "Risk" and "danger" and casual sex I find that really u…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 07:57 PM
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You're free to feel that way. I don't really give a shit. Also, only in the US is it standard to gain 20 lb that you never lose after having kids. In Europe and Asia even "mature" women try to stay slim and are often successful. In fact, if 20 lb was some magical guarantee that you couldn't control, why have I met so many sexy middle aged women who weigh less now than they did when they were in their 20s? It's called discipline. They have the time and money to put effort into their appearance. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 07:54 PM
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Trust me, he's no more shallow than any other men. They just lie to themselves and/or other people about it. That said, he was kidding anyway. I've never been self conscious about my weight so it's not a sore point. remembers the "waits for BP hate" thing I said
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 02:06 AM
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It's a bit of a stretch. I think people like to make fun of those who they find ridiculous. Is the /r/Tumblrinaction sub just proof that social justice warriors were right all along?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 01:17 AM
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Yeah, I'm aware of that. My argument is that all studies show thus far that the majority of women, including myself, don't. I'm sure there are some who do. Even with an informal poll among my friends, none of them list their preferences on their online dating sites over 10 years older than they are. If they're 30, for example, they will list "seeking men 30-40" Where exactly, other than personal experience are you getting the concept that the "vast majority" of women prefer men generations older…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 01:07 AM
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I think if you ran a poll (and actually people have, and these were the results) most women want men slightly older than them. I can't possibly speak for all women because nothing is ever true of 100% of either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 11:36 PM
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Women are being treated with kid gloves, and it's ridiculous. I can't go on FB for a minute without seeing someone post an article about "unrealistic beauty standards", meanwhile the female romance books like 50 shades of gray almost always depict a tall, muscular, good looking, big-penised (lol) billionaire who is awesome at oral sex. I literally see ZERO distinction between these "unrealistic standards" placed on women and the ones placed on men (which nobody talks about) I know this isn't exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 09:55 PM
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Hm interesting. I'm not sure! Again, I don't have the knowledge to say. I'm not saying it's necessarily parents though...a lot of the hangups I have as an adult were shaped by peers and school.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 09:29 PM
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Either? I don't know enough about sexual fetishes to say but from what I can gather it's usually from something in childhood. I feel like the vast majority of men wouldn't even be able to get hard thinking about the girl with another guy, let alone seeing it!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 09:08 PM
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I think it's so rare that it's not worth using to make any generalizations about men. It's like women who have poop fetishes. Says nothing about female sexuality, just that some women get off on shitting on their partner's chests.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 09:01 PM
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What about when you are with your husband? Does he like to show you off? My SO would be mad if I dressed up sexy (he doesn't consider sneakers part of this, lol) without him but when I'm with him he likes for me to look very sexy.
/r/RedPillWomen28/03/14 08:59 PM
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Personally, I cover up quite a bit when I'm not around him (I have a cute lace hoodie which is feminine but not at all sexy), but when I go out WITH him I like to be as sexy as possible, it's almost like I get to be decoration for him. Only problem is I need to be sure to cling to him every hour of the night or else some other guy comes up and encroaches. lol. Luckily if this happens SO usually finds me and calmly shuts the other dude down.
/r/RedPillWomen28/03/14 08:58 PM
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Just wanted to drop in to say I have a pair of black sketchers that are a little closer to the foot and not so clunky. They kind of look like flats or dancing shoes, with a teensy bit of a heel platform. I wouldn't wear them outside of casual yoga pants/grocery shopping/gym clothing, but they are comfy for long-distance walking while I do my errands. I swear, the amount of walking my errands involve must burn like 400 calories.
/r/RedPillWomen28/03/14 08:54 PM
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Haha I know, I just get annoyed when I see guys who don't know this and then put themselves at risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 07:36 PM
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Oh, all human beings are capable of manipulating others. and plenty of young women aren't "ready" for marriage yet so that's also quite possible. Just a thought! It would just suck to be thrown away solely because you aged, which is something that can't be prevented unless you die. If she's made aware of that arrangement and only wants something temporary herself, then fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 07:26 PM
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Pretty much 90% of people get HPV at some point in their lives anyway and with good monitoring you can prevent big problems, so that's actually not a huge deal. Herpes sucks and would be a pain while dating but it's also not going to kill you. The other stuff, yeah, women are more likely to get it, but I would still venture that if I were a man, I'd be wrapping it up every time, lol. Guys still get that stuff all the time, it's just slightly less likely because their penises are less likely to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 07:19 PM
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I usually just say "Do you want to talk about it?" Often, he doesn't actually want to talk about it! So then, I just try to be as pleasant as possible and make the night fun. Cook his favorite meal, have sex (or at least make sex available- if he's really upset he may not be feeling sexy) and maybe give him a back rub. If he does want to talk, all you really have to do is listen (and do the aforementioned things). I generally don't give advice, as that often comes off as blaming, plus I don't kn…
/r/RedPillWomen28/03/14 07:12 PM
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Obviously, she was abused and they just hid it from you. She doesn't even know she was abused because nineteen year olds actually don't have brains. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 07:08 PM
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I wouldn't care if wealthy older women started sexing 18 year olds. Actually, that might be good, provided everything was safe- they could learn about sex, etc...not a bad plan. why the magical 25 number? I admit when I was 18 I would not have been attracted to a man in his mid-thirties, but I had a major crush on a 26-year-old. Interestingly, he wanted to date someone his own age. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 07:08 PM
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My concern would be that the girl would then be thrown away for another 18-year-old, which would be hurtful and deceptive if she wasn't made aware of this arrangement. Other than that, I don't see what the big deal is. Of course men prefer younger women. Does anyone really think this is unusual? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 07:06 PM
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I don't, lol. If I were single the oldest I'd date would be 10 yrs my senior. I prefer men a few years older, nothing outrageous. if they're old enough to be my dad, it's a turnoff. Also, I don't want to be widowed young, so marrying a guy in his 50s would be a bad choice for me. I have nothing wrong with men preferring younger women though...just that I don't think the reverse is particularly true (and I don't think I'm an outlier- most women I know don't want to date men generations older than…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 07:05 PM
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I wasn't aware of this person, and I don't think that's morally wrong or anything but kind of limiting. an 18-year-old looks virtually indistinguishable from a 25-year-old, provided she hasn't gained a lot of weight or spent loads in the sun. I look better now than I did at 18. I had acne then. I don't get it. Probably an innocence fetish, considering "the wall" is nowhere near 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 07:00 PM
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This is a really interesting point, as a relatively RP woman (I'm more fuschia, lol, but whatever) I've been told by numerous feminists that I'm in an abusive relationship, without them even knowing my SO. Their reasons? 1.) I shave all my body hair 2.) I like to wear makeup for him 3.) I admit that I like to look good for him 4.) I love doing housework and cooking for him (it's just fun) 5.) I've never said no to sex. 6.) I'm aware I should get married relatively young bc it's hard to be a sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 06:57 PM
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I find a huge sexual partner # a turnoff because it shows that the guy, while maybe attractive, is a bad choice for a long-term partner. Maybe I initially find him sexy but if you're looking for a LTR, you should be smart enough to avoid guys who are obviously players. Side note, awesome username.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 06:52 PM
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I agree with that, but I do wonder about the STD thing. I know women are slightly more likely to get one from unprotected sex but if it's a skin-skin STD (like HPV or herpes) I'm pretty sure both partners are at risk because it's just skin, no tears are necessary for infection. This is one reason I don't understand dudes who don't wear condoms. It's also one reason I was always wary of promiscuous men when I was single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 06:50 PM
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It's pretty much biological (that's the short answer) but also it's just way easier for a woman to get sex than a man. So for example, a hunter in a 3rd world country who manages to hunt down enough meat to eat like a king every day is way more impressive than some guy in Missouri who goes to KFC every day and orders a family bucket. They're eating the same thing, but one is just a lot more impressive. I don't think it's "fair" and when I was single it bothered me (especially since the same guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 06:49 PM
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Right on, girlfran. Going to go "find myself" now and have an affair! :D /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 06:43 PM
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It's really more rhetorical. I assume other factors are at play, but many posts make it seem as though they're not, and I'm curious which factors those are, and to what extent they matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 06:42 PM
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Judging from my male friends' and female friends' experiences dating, women do seem to be pickier, but that's just anecdata. I think specifically, men are more open to "let's just 'hang out' and have sex and see where this goes" so they're open to a wider variety of women but when it comes to long-term marriage partners I think both sexes are the same level of picky. as a woman who abhors "FWB" stuff I kind of understand why some women are pickier. When I was single, if a guy gave off any "not i…
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 09:02 PM
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This is a great response, but don't men trade up? What about the whole "trophy wife" thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 08:59 PM
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Pretty much all of them were fat. I heard some women say that having kids made their entire body shape change (like they started out as an hourglass, magically turned into an apple). My mom is a classic pear shape and after several kids she has gained weight but is still a pear shape. I don't understand how this works. lol
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 08:11 PM
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lol it's OK. I have done the same thing- wandered over to Jezebel or whatever, and there's really zero room for disagreement. (it's one reason I like PPD for general discussion surrounding sexual strategy and male/female differences, they're literally meant for disagreement). Strangely, being a woman who disagrees with the hags over at Jezebel does not make you less prone to hate than a man! In fact I think they hate you more because you've got "internalized misogyny" lol
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 08:07 PM
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LOL no worries, that was just enough information :) True, it probably is all relative but I guess for me it's tied to my value as a woman. I know that sounds crazy, but it's the same way guys all want 10" dicks even though they know women don't actually want to be with 10" dicks. lol VERY good to know that having kids doesn't ruin everything. A woman I know with kids said nothing changed for her, but I've also see women say that their bodies, vaginas and literally everything was completely destr…
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 08:04 PM
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Well he also does online dating and stuff, and he tries to meet people through friends.
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 06:37 PM
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Same here. Well actually he always asks me for advice, I've been really blunt with him about what to do. He always acts surprised "Really? THAT works? Why???" And by the way, the advice I'm giving him is really no-nonsense stuff..."Don't get wasted and high if you want to be in control." "Focus on your target, don't try to talk to literally every single girl for 2 seconds." "If a girl is obviously not interested, move onto the next one." This guy once followed a girl all over town who obviously …
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 06:24 PM
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Yes. The general TRP success story is that a guy was relatively unsuccessful with girls due to being wimpy, letting women walk all over him, passively "orbiting" girls out of his league (who, with self improvement, may not be out of his league anymore) who are clearly not interested and wasting time on the wrong people, etc. Then he found TRP, at first went a little too far with it, then settled on a behavioral plan that was more appropriate and started doing well. "Doing well" is different for …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 06:16 PM
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Yeah, I would be extremely wary of anyone who texts/calls after 12 AM if they didn't just see you. It's one thing if it's a "had a great time tonight!" text, but otherwise.....
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 06:10 PM
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Great article! I think it's definitely true, as I've seen this in action. I know one women who is 31 and loads of fun, really pretty, fashionable...sure she has a few faults but bitterness is not one of them (and she does well with men). Then I know a woman who is 38 (so, only 7 years older) but bitter, hateful, angry- actually very pretty but cut her hair boy-short. She goes on dates and gives men the third degree to try and figure out if they're "players". It's insane!
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 06:09 PM
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For what it's worth, I know thin, healthy, fun 30-year-old women who are LOADED with male attention from men their own age to slightly older (like 28-40). I think a huge part of the Wall is the bitterness, letting yourself go, etc...
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 06:08 PM
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It sounds like fun advice :) Being healthy and socializing and keeping a positive outlook on life is something I'm happy to start!
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 06:08 PM
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I also want to add that I know a girl built like you- big boobs, no waist (but not a huge gut either, just an undefined waist) no hips, skinny legs, flat butt. She is now married to a millionaire. He's also an awesome, funny, nice guy. He's not gorgeous or anything, but he's definitely a good find. This is NOT a dealbreaker for most men, lol.
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 05:54 PM
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right? you're talking about a board that loves men and a board that believes men, by existing, are actively oppressing them. Now who do you think is going to be more receptive to your opinions?! lol
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 05:51 PM
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I would be remiss if I did not ask you why on earth you went to /r/feminism. lol
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 05:51 PM
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I agree. I have a male friend who wants a WIFE, so I'm not sure the advice over at TRP would work for him. Having said that, he's been behaving in some of the worst beta (and whatever is worse than a beta) ways possible.
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 05:50 PM
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I'm not a mod, so I can't say for sure, but I really like seeing male opinions, since the men who post here are often a little softer and less harsh than other RP men who are still going through the anger phrase, but they still have RP views, and that's cool.
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 05:50 PM
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well my guy doesn't behave anything like the "alphas" on TRP but he's also not playing the field so that behavior might be toned down a bit. Yes, I'm still really attracted to him, although the fact that I have relatively low self esteem helps with the "he could always fine someone else" thing. Better than being delusionally proud imo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 05:48 PM
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Yeah, surprise surprise, she isn't married!
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 12:51 AM
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maybe! i've certainly heard of stranger things within the realm of depression, OCD and anxiety :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 12:50 AM
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Just tell her you aren't interested or that you found someone else. It's scary to do but it's blunt and gets straight to the point.
/r/askTRP26/03/14 12:49 AM
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being taken out or having sex isn't discouraged...and offering to pay half isn't looking out for him more than yourself, it's just being fair.
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 12:45 AM
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Yeah, I wasn't sure which way to go with this one. On the one hand, I don't think everything has to be 50-50 all the time, or that women have to split meals especially if they didn't ask the guy out in the first place. But there's no reason why a woman is more worthy of money than a man is, or why a man needs to pay to be around a woman. Presumably you offer the same amount of skills/benefits as he does (at best) so why is he obligated to spend money on you? This was always my thought at least. …
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 12:45 AM
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Oh wow, never heard that before. Could be related to depression. Even at my least sexually driven, sex wasn't gross to me, I was just uninterested in it. but obviously my experience isn't everyone's. There are times when I think about sex/kissing and I'm like "wow, humans actually put their body parts in other people's, ew!" but luckily it doesn't carry over to the bedroom. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 12:40 AM
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Not entirely. Many RPW love housework, cooking, etc. Cooking is literally my favorite hobby, and sometimes I wonder why being "in the kitchen" is seen as such a huge insult. It's my favorite place! In all seriousness, I do think that there are things that men/women are ON AVERAGE better at. This doesn't mean men should be barred from "women's work" or that women should be barred from "men's work" but I don't think it's sexist in any way to suggest that men and women are wired for different types…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 12:38 AM
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RAPE CULTURE! They don't want women to run because then they won't be able to escape hordes of rapists!! OBVIOUSLY!
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 12:36 AM
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Interesting! I didn't know this. I now feel better about all my cardio consisting of walking and zumba, and all my strength being weightlifting. rad. and as for misogyny, I literally don't even know where people got that from. That's nuts.
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/14 12:27 AM
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For what it's worth, there was a period when I pretty much had zero sex drive due to being on very strong anti-anxiety medications. I still had sex every day. I may be unusual because I am wet even when I'm not turned on, so pain was never an issue (maybe at first, but we're talking 5 seconds here.) Even when I had zero desire for sex, it was never gross or painful or horrid to me. It was at worst, boring or tiring. Most of the time it was pleasant because I was still getting a close emotional m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 12:26 AM
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That's fair. I guess I'd say sex is more analogous to affection then. Most people have strong needs for interpersonal affection, but there are obviously some who don't have much of a need for it. If one person with a low need for affection marries someone with a high need for it, they're probably not a good match to begin with, but it would still be cruel of the low-affection person to completely deprive the high-affection person of hugs, kisses, compliments and cuddling for YEARS on end. It wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/14 12:21 AM
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Yeah, obviously. And women like me who remain attracted are just immature sluts. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 11:31 PM
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I never thought about this possibility. I can only suggest that open communication with your partner is the way to go. If I found out that all of this was a hassle for my boyfriend, I'd be surprised, but I'd want to know what I could do to take the pressure off of him. WAY better than just having him roll over and me not knowing why.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 11:28 PM
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I was going to disregard your comment completely, since you apparently think my desire to please my man is a sign that I'm cooped up in my "little immature world" (nice). But I'm a glutton for punishment, so here goes: 1.) Both people don't want sex that often because they're 60 or whatever? Fine. Go for it. I'm sure when I hit menopause I'll want it a lot less. I'm not talking about situations where both people just aren't as sexually driven as they used to be. I'm talking about situations wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 11:27 PM
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well apparently looks at BP comment at top of page I'm just thuper immature for thinking that a wife should have sex with her husband. Obvi, I don't have enough life experience of treating men like shit to know better! What an idiot I am. I'm sure someday I'll learn the wise ways of BP women and have sex with my man once a month, like I should.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 11:20 PM
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This answer has been the most compelling thus far. I love everyone getting all up in arms over how "nobody is entitled to have sex with their partner." Yes, yes they are. That's part of marriage. Of course, in the scenario you describe, the man isn't keeping up his end of the bargain either (and it would work the same with the genders reversed)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 11:18 PM
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I have no proof either way, only speculation. I tried researching but I wasn't able to get any concrete numbers, only the fact that both genders do it sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 08:37 PM
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I doubt I'm special or an outlier, but after getting engaged and being with the same person for years and years we have sex just as often as we did before. Like every day. I'm not sure this always applies or even applies in general. Women are certainly optimized to want high-value masculine men but I don't think that means they lose interest as soon as a man commits.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 08:34 PM
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Yes, but if that's the case, why don't they A.) leave or B.) work on it? Seems odd to be with someone you aren't attracted to, NOT want them to leave, and neglect them sexually. Unless of course you need someone to provide for you financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 08:33 PM
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Ok, cool! lol. I always dread getting older because I just assume I'll be dumped. My boyfriend just tells me (jokingly) that all I need to do is stay thin and keep cooking. lol waits for BP hate
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 07:51 PM
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I'm late all the time and I'm on the birth control pill. It's gotten to the point where my partner and I just buy a pregnancy test every month because my period just skips for no reason. The chances of getting someone pregnant, with a condom, without ejaculating, may actually be 0%. She probably knows it's unlikely too, which is why she isn't rushing to get a test. Trust me, when I've been really scared I was pregnant, i would have talked to a fucking rabbi, priest and imam all at once in public…
/r/askTRP25/03/14 07:48 PM
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1.) If you use tumblr you're not necessarily a feminist. But there is a very strong radfem following on Tumblr. It's known as a liberal circlejerk. That's not to say that 100% of its users are that way, obviously. 2.) The problem with the fat positive movement is that it villainizes men who happen to prefer thin women, which is a completely natural preference. I doubt you want to date someone who is 600 lb. In fact most of the women involved in the fat positive movement will ONLY date hot/ripped…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 07:45 PM
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Yes. Withholding sex without a legit physical reason is a form of infidelity. I think believing this is not equivalent to believing in marital rape. I believe both partners are required to provide sex to each other. Using sex as a manipulation tool is sociopathic behavior and should never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 06:49 PM
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Nobody is perfect. I have short legs for example and I'll never look good in flats, etc. Sure, your shape isn't ideal, but there are some things you can do. 1.) If your boobs are big, make that your asset. It's probably going to be the last place you lose weight, so if you lose weight you'll still have nice boobs. Center your outfits around your boobs, and de-emphasize your waist and hips. Empire silhouette is good for this. 2.) I'm just going to assume you should lose weight, but if you're alre…
/r/RedPillWomen25/03/14 06:47 PM
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I just want to pop in to say "any man that can 'handle' me" is my least favorite term EVER. Whenever a woman says this I just assume she is annoying as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 06:44 PM
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In that context, I agree too. The phrasing makes it sound ridiculous (it implies that all women are fuck holes, not just the useless ones, and I admit there are useless women out there). I've actually had this feeling for a long time even before TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 06:43 PM
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That sounds almost like a strawman joke some BP person would say pretending to be a RP. I am kind of surprised that anyone said this without sarcasm. But oh well, it's the Internet, I shouldn't be surprised. If you're angry at women for "friendzoning" you for years, of course it'll be in your interests to call them fuckholes as a defense mechanism and a way to feel more in control. Similarly, I've heard divorced angry women refer to their ex husbands as their "sperm doners" or their "Paychecks".…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 06:42 PM
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Ok cool, I don't have a crockpot but now I think I should definitely get one!
/r/RedPillWomen25/03/14 05:58 PM
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Awesome, good luck!!!
/r/RedPillWomen25/03/14 01:28 AM
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:) no problem, just some greek yogurt, cucumber (2), dill, mint, and 3 cloves of garlic. It takes like 10 minutes!
/r/RedPillWomen25/03/14 01:20 AM
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First off, there will be a huge change when you get to college. But it's great that you're already improving yourself by getting a job, working out, etc. That's awesome! One thing to remember about hot girls is that if your main source of interest in them is that they're hot, they are extremely replaceable. Even a girl who is hot and has a great personality is NOT the only person in the world like that. It obviously seems like a small world in high school, which is one reason why things will get…
/r/askTRP25/03/14 01:17 AM
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Oooh very good idea re: weekends. I like to make 1-2 soups for the week. Cucumber yogurt is a really easy soup idea and doesn't even take time to cook. Speaking of which I need to make some when I get home lol
/r/RedPillWomen25/03/14 01:12 AM
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I'm not even 100% red pill but he has a point. Jezebel, Tumblr, and other feminist-centered sites call men sexist or shallow simply for preferring thin women. The fat-positive movement centers around the idea that men who don't like 600 lb women are only brainwashed by society, and that if society didn't exist, they'd be just as attractive as women who are at an average weight. Cosmo regularly has articles about all the reasons you should dump a guy, but rarely tells women to examine their own b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 12:09 AM
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I am, Chinese is just an example. I haven't eaten straight-up chinese food in years. This is one reason I never order out anyway! I make Asian food at home but I use tamari.
/r/RedPillWomen25/03/14 12:04 AM
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You know, I've tried to ask RP guys (not necessarily on reddit) about that kind of thing, figuring that they'd be really opinionated and give me good hard truths. instead, they just berated me for assuming they had an opinion on my frivolous feminine interests, then told me I was "overthinking" and being shallow. So you try your ultimate hardest to look good for a man, and you're still somehow at fault. Like I don't have a problem with TRP on the whole, just voicing that some guys view women as …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 12:03 AM
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lol great advice :) Especially in regards to cleaning! Lately I've been trying to think up a going-out outfit while I'm in the shower (I have very good knowledge of what's in my closet) but often when I put it on, my SO is like "No, why don't you just try ___?" However if I ask him earlier in the night what he wants me to wear, he'll say he doesn't know! lol
/r/RedPillWomen25/03/14 12:01 AM
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Well, some women just won't be interested and that's that. In those cases, it's best to just move on to someone who may be interested. Also, you probably already know this, but if you're only capable of being attracted to 8+ women it's always good to get in shape yourself. Most hot women just aren't attracted to fat guys who dress terribly. I have no idea what you look like, so if you're in shape and dress decently disregard that. (Looks are certainly NOT everything but if you're pursuing gorgeo…
/r/askTRP24/03/14 11:10 PM
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The short answer would be to ignore them. It's a really toxic trend among American women. I didn't even notice it until recently (actually, it's possible I may even have been a bit like that) and the other day I was at the bar and saw this girl stomping and shouting on a bench, you could see up her skirt (she wasn't hot either) and overall she would have been so much more appealing if she was smiling, giggling, chatting, just not acting like The Hulk. These women usually believe they're "down to…
/r/askTRP24/03/14 11:02 PM
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1.) be more efficient with cooking and cleaning 2.) take better care of my hair 3.) drink more water 4.) finally send all my old clothes to charity instead of having them lying around
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/14 10:32 PM
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They generally do care about how they appear, because whenever some BP person is like "OMG RED PILL IS ALL ABOUT SEXISTS" instead of shrugging it off and forgetting about it, tons of RP guys show up to explain how it's not sexist, it's not hateful, etc etc. If they didn't care, none of them would defend TRP. I'm not against defending your own community, by the way. I defend it all the time. Just saying if you defend your community a lot, you do care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 10:28 PM
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I agree with you, although I think all too often RP gets conflated with hardcore PUA advice, when in reality RP is pretty vague and can work for relationships/marriage too. I've even seen some RP blogs emphasize the importance of beta and alpha traits together. I totally agree with that aspect of it. I think RP tends to oversimplify things, because it's one way to be more in control- assume all women do this, and then you have all the answers. Yet they will admit that there are different types o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 10:12 PM
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Yeah I don't blame you. I'm kind of getting pissed off for you! lol. Best thing to do is kind of go a little cold on her. Don't be a total jerk, but treat her like she's any one of your friends, not your BFF. Hang out with some guys, go out without her. She may begin to see you in a different light.
/r/askTRP24/03/14 09:53 PM
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I don't mind 'as a man'. I actually like seeing male opinions. But I know not all women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 09:45 PM
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To be fair, the women are the mods over at RPW. Men only post occasionally and usually asking a woman's perspective or commenting with advice. They don't tend to be like "AS A MAN I think all women are beaauuuutiful!" to try and get white knight medals. That happens on FB though, lol. Having said that, I don't often see women leaving dumbass comments like that on askTRP. Maybe once or twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 09:45 PM
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Totally. I was just thinking about this. Sometimes I have more generic questions about sexual strategy (I don't play the field myself) and I always feel like that's better for askTRP. Especially if it's a really quick question that would take up unnecessary space on RPW where there aren't many posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 09:44 PM
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I'm just going to start announcing myself as a star gender genderqueer non-binary polyamourous non-human entity. Then let's see who's getting credit for their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 09:42 PM
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I also wonder how they feel about women asking for advice. Sometimes, we want the cold hard truth and asking men is an easy way to get it- especially since you need to wait a long time to post on RPW.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 09:42 PM
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But you didn't find her attractive initially- did you develop physical attraction after getting to know her better? Do you have any indication that she doesn't feel the same way?
/r/askTRP24/03/14 09:41 PM
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Please tell me you checked the size! Were you right about your guess of her cup size? In all seriousness, yes, it's the leave-behind. A bra is a really hard thing to forget, unless you have nonexistent boobs. It's way more realistic for a woman to forget her earrings or something, but a bra? It's uncomfortable to walk around without one, it's not something you just absent-mindedly forget.
/r/askTRP24/03/14 09:39 PM
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Well, think about it this way. You can always make more money. There is no guarantee that you'll get poor one day. However, it's pretty much guaranteed that one day she won't be beautiful anymore. So then what is she going to barter for free dinners? lol Women like this drive me nuts. Being beautiful their whole lives, they've never had to pay/work for anything, so they develop snobbish and entitled attitudes. If she's so beautiful, there is no reason for her to need to spend $170 on cosmetics. …
/r/askTRP24/03/14 09:37 PM
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I don't have one (I'm on the pill myself) but I know someone who got an IUD after she had kids. Often, people only get IUDs after they have kids (some doctors won't even give it to you unless you've had kids) but they are nearly foolproof, which is good. Don't let this scare you too much, but I know a woman who got it when she hadn't had kids, and it migrated into her liver somehow. She was fine, but it required emergency surgery. I think this is one of the reason they prefer to give them to wom…
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/14 09:33 PM
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Know any good one-pot-cooking recipes? We also like to save money so we prefer to make things from scratch for that reason too!
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/14 09:29 PM
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I didn't take it as bullying, I appreciate it. thanks!
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/14 08:45 PM
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Well, the boyfriend may have been a jerk, although nothing there proves it. Saying she'd look better if she lost weight is just him being honest. most women claim to want honest men but then get all pissy when men are honest about their weight. Go figure. Just yesterday SO told me to lose three pounds (like in Mean Girl, lol) and I really did not get offended. I'm glad he told me. But anyway, I'm guessing the point is that as soon as she was hot enough for him, she dropped him because he didn't …
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/14 08:41 PM
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Well, I'm not as intense about needing a masculine man- some masculinity is good but too much can be threatening or off-putting for me, at least in a relationship. I like a mix of alpha and beta- overall I LOVE goofy men. A guy who can't joke around or be silly is a no-go for me. So no, I definitely don't think kindness is weakness. To me, weakness is having terrible personal boundaries- letting people walk all over you, never standing up for what you believe in. My SO is very kind, but if he di…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 08:36 PM
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Yep, my bad. Thanks for pointing it out.
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/14 08:34 PM
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Thanks for this. I usually agree with most RPW stuff but I thought debate was welcome here (just like discussions of different views). Now that I know that, I'll be more careful. I guess that's better for PPD.
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/14 08:16 PM
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Oh I agree. preaching to the choir here. But my boyfriend likes all that stuff to be minimal. My hair isn't dyed, I don't wear eye makeup other than mascara, and I don't wear push up bras. Not sure why it matters to him since he's seen me as natural as can be many times over the past few years (and if he didn't care about the natural look, I would probably do all those things) but if it's his preference, I follow it.
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/14 08:14 PM
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Thanks! I recognize your SN and you're one of the TRP guys I tend to agree with the most. Not surprising!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 08:03 PM
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well, that's a shame. If that's what they want that's OK but they're going to have a way harder to defending themselves as not being misogynists or immature or whiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 08:01 PM
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I have no qualms with extentions, but my boyfriend hates them. He also doesn't seem to care much about hair length as long as it's "long". He often tells me to cut it if it's going past bra strap. I have no doubt that with the right type of hair butt length is the best. I have a lot of hair, but it's fine and slippery so it would be a pain for me.
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/14 08:00 PM
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I think mentioning your gender is fine as long as you don't expect extra credit for it, like (OMG A WOMAN IS TALKING LET ME LISTEN!!!! SHE MUST KNOW ALL!!!) But sometimes I have participated in mostly male subs about dating and I just like to clarify I'm female because otherwise people think I'm a gay man or something. I don't expect my words to be taken more seriously than a man's. As for the tits or GTFO thing, it's things like this that make BP people or PP people think that TRP is a place of…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 07:29 PM
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Makes sense. I'm very aware of how tough the dating world is for men, which is one reason I'm actually glad I'm a woman. I don't like too much competition, I can barely even handle the idea of anyone checking my boyfriend out let alone vying for his hand in marriage. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 07:24 PM
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This makes sense. Thanks for the answer!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 06:27 PM
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lol np. thanks for clarifying
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 06:22 PM
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The one thing I wonder about is the butt-length hair. That would look stringy and flat on the majority of women. The only good butt length hair I've seen have either been on women with genetic lottery hair, or women with extensions. Down to mid-back would be more realistic for most of us. It would still keep some volume and shine. But I'm nitpicky. The rest is good and true.
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/14 06:15 PM
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That's true. I generally just avoid any male-only forums now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 06:12 PM
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Strangely enough the idea of being with a true alpha sounds too nerve-wracking for me. My boyfriend has both alpha and beta qualities which for me is best for LTR. So yeah, this makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 06:12 PM
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Fantastic answer! And I am in a relationship now so my prior dating isn't really a huge deal to me, but I am pretty sure that I was the one making mistakes (I was the one being rejected, right? lol) I would venture that I just had bad social skills, appeared too needy/available, and I was in a small community, so if I hooked up (not even sex, just made out) with one guy, he'd tell everyone we had sex, it would be exaggerated to something disgusting, and then guys would be wary of committing to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 06:10 PM
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Hm, well in terms of marriage, that's supposed to be for life. Is the strategy to just dump anyone who isn't young and fertile, because assuming your wife doesn't die at the age of 30, you're eventually going to be married to someone who isn't young or fertile.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 06:06 PM
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Oh I know, I'm being snarky.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 06:06 PM
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Huh? I never said anything bad about Christianity and I don't hate men. Are you confusing me with someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 06:05 PM
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Just slang- putting out, giving up....we have a great relationship and I love having sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 06:04 PM
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Interesting, I seem to be seeing this a lot! So basically, if your threshold is, say, a 7, and a 7.5 girl also has a great personality, you won't pass up being with her if you happen to meet a 9 one day?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 06:04 PM
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Makes sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 06:03 PM
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Yeah seems about right. Also, it's not like it's all or nothing. During the time when I was waiting we were still hanging out, having fun and making out. It wasn't like I was forcing him to buy me anything either, I just wanted to make sure he wasn't just looking for sex. It's actually a pretty good weed-out technique. The guys who just want sex will probably move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 03:30 AM
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Nah it was a RP guy, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 03:29 AM
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Yeah, I wasn't sure, since they tend not to discuss relationships anyway. I have seen guys talking about committing to a woman, and in describing her, about 90% of it is about the size of her ass and boobs, but since they rarely discuss relationships it's hard to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 03:26 AM
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Many RP guys would say men who get married to any woman are asking for divorce. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 03:25 AM
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That's not even remotely what I said but ok. Being smart, cultured and ethical are all important, especially if the "hot" alternative is also a shitty person. But being smart, cultured and ethical are different from having a myriad of degrees and some huge paycheck- both of which may be added benefits but tend not to be important when it comes to initial male-to-female attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 03:25 AM
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Excuse me for butting in, but as a woman I don't think a woman's career, degrees or money are anything other than an "Oh, that's nice to hear" for men. Having said that, that DOESN'T mean that all they care about is looks or that they just want a fuck hole. They care about someone who is fun, easy to talk to, supportive, interesting, intelligent, etc (at least for a relationship).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 02:56 AM
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lol it was. I wound up giving up earlier than I had initially planned with my current boyfriend, but it all worked out. The idea of sleeping with a guy after 2 dates is crazy to me. When I was single I went on a LOT of dates. Had I done that, i would have racked up like 50 sexual partners in a really short period of time, thus making me untouchable to any guy in the future. It may make me a prude, but whatever. SO would say it was worth the wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 02:52 AM
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None of those preferences are even that weird! It's not like he had a laundry list of perfect measurements and acceptable ratios or whatever. If anything, the stuff women claim are dealbreakers on Cosmo is way more restrictive.
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/14 02:05 AM
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lol of course. i actually wasn't asking them for advice, I brought it up in a normal conversation and then got berated. But oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 01:39 AM
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yeah, that's why I say it. there's this weird rule that in order to speak about an oppressed group's experience, you need to belong to that group (even though obviously not all women/men have the same experiences). Although I've seen Black people and women raked over the coals for saying they never experienced oppression. It's very fascist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 11:49 PM
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what i dont understand about this, is if your game works so well why the fuck do you need to get her drunk ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 11:47 PM
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Yeah, I mentioned the middle east too (and noted an example where a teenage girl was raped by her family member and sentenced to whipping, which later killed her, for "adultery") and was told this was a bad example of rape culture and that it was western propaganda. Hm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 11:47 PM
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there's a lot of strawman stuff going on with both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 11:46 PM
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This is very interesting. They berate women so much for being emotional and irrational and then they admittedly "vent" emotionally about how awful women are. That's exactly what winy women do about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 11:43 PM
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Some of them do think women can offer companionship, general "wife" skills and other good things like that (the more traditionalist dudes). Having said that, I often wonder if certain RP guys will eventually realize that the most alpha thing to do is just be gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 11:42 PM
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Although I agree with the basic advice from TRP, one thing I absolutely can't stand is the thing you linked to. I got into an argument on another forum about how I waited a few weeks to have sex with my boyfriend. I thought if anything people would be neutral about it, but I was actually accused of emasculating him by making him wait, and he was accused of being a lowly beta (I really don't care! lol). My response is that obviously, wouldn't it be better for a woman to be selective and wait a wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 11:40 PM
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Great point. The philosophies themselves differ a lot in this way, I guess I'm more referring the logical fallacies and argument tactics used among extremists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 11:32 PM
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Adultery isn't a valid accusation when you didn't willingly sleep with a married man. Maybe she wasn't directly executed for being raped, but the fact that she was raped and then somehow tried for adultery is absurd. Are you really going to argue that this had absolutely nothing to do with sexism? Obviously this doesn't apply in the US where something like this would never happen but fundamentalist religious societies are pretty much the definition of a sexist society. Do you think sexism agains…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 11:32 PM
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http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/30/when-a-girl-is-executed-for-being-raped/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 07:51 PM
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Very good point, generally the anger in feminism doesn't seem to be a phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 07:50 PM
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Well I think it depends on what you mean by submissive. I don't think any RP guys genuinely want a woman who doesn't speak or who can't make her own decisions, as that would be really tiring and annoying for most people. But I think when they say "submissive" they just mean the opposite of the current sloppy drunk American prototype- a girl with a little bit more of a feminine side.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 05:10 AM
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I know that. That was pretty much the first thing I said in my post. I'm referring to the extremists of either movement ONLY.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 04:38 AM
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I don't think this is the technical definition of feminism, but I hate to say it's a very accurate idea of what it's turned into. It's one reason I never know whether to call myself a feminist or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 02:28 AM
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You don't sound like a radfem to me...although I think the "spunk" you may be referring to with SJWs in my experience has been nothing but random expletives and childish insults/argument tactics (but we may be reading different people!) Anyway, the fact that you support my choice NOT to be the breadwinner or to be the same as a man is why you're not a radfem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 02:27 AM
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Well, my initial definition of feminism is the idea that men and women should have the same legal rights. So a man shouldn't be paid more for doing the same job, unless he's actually better at it, and women shouldn't be obligated to do any specific role/thing because they're women. I personally prefer feminine, traditional roles for myself but I understand not all women do so I think choice is important. However, from what I can gather from feminism nowadays, it's a lot of anger, talk about "opp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 02:21 AM
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Nothing morally wrong about it- it's never morally wrong to not date someone for any reason. You have the right to make that choice. However it could be unwise. If you meet someone who's slept with 20 people in the past several months, I could see not trusting them and assuming you're just going to be another lay...that's what I would do. But it might be a little silly to have some ridiculous standard like "Only virgins" or "Only girls who have slept with less than 3 guys". Considering most wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 02:15 AM
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I'm a bit split. On the one hand, I'm sure the advice works to a degree (at least better than being wimpy and passive) but of course it's typical asshole game and as someone who was always into LTRs I may have been initially turned on by it, but able to pros/cons the whole thing and realize it's a waste of my time. Having said that, for a girl who just wants to sleep around and get wrapped up in a sexy moment, solid game. As for the date rape thing...meh, maybe? Obviously alcohol makes you less …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 02:12 AM
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Morocco isn't one of those countries- never been there but it's not under Taliban law. I'm talking about countries with fundamentalism Muslim governments (to my knowledge Morocco is a Muslim country but not a fundamentalist tyrannical dictatorship)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 11:39 PM
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Of course people can give women shit. It's just that usually when I say my views about rape culture, people assume I'm a man and then say "well you're not a woman it's not your place etc etc"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 06:11 AM
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Makes sense. Although I would venture the way TRP men are is pretty similar to the way "all" men are, it's just that other men haven't felt comfortable expressing these views/aspects about themselves. Like the way BP guys claim they don't find Victoria's Secret models attractive, but you know they all actually do. lol
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/14 06:10 AM
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lol. very fair point.
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/14 06:09 AM
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Well on the one hand, you were being hypocritical, but on the other hand, I find that people tend to sympathize more with folks of their own gender. Sometimes I'll watch Mad Men with SO- I'm outraged by how much Don cheats and how awful he is to women, and my SO is just like "Well he had a bad childhood, his wife is being a bitch etc" Meanwhile, if SO sees Betty or whoever cheating on Don (which to my knowledge only happened once) she's a horrible person suddenly. I think it has to do with who y…
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/14 04:17 AM
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Important. Better to get roommates than to live with your parents. If you're young most women would totally understand you having roommates, but sneaking around mom and dad is no fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 03:45 AM
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I think women have as much of a right to birth control as men do to Viagra and other ED medications. So if the government is going to pay for one, they should pay for the other. And no, the government shouldn't pay for abortions but I am pro-welfare. I'm very much left of center, so some of my views are more liberal than others. ALSO, keep in mind many women on the pill aren't on it specifically to fuck around. I went on it when I wasn't having sex with anyone, to better my skin and regulate my …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 03:45 AM
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As I'm in a relationship, my dealing with the opposite gender are always platonic. Although because men are more blunt and direct, I find them easier to get along with. All my best friends are women out of necessity, but men are very likable and easy to get along with. Having said that, it's safe to say one of the reasons men are so nice to me is because I'm attractive, so this is a bit biased. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 03:43 AM
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Imagined. There are countries where it certainly is real- for example, there are countries in the Middle East where women are literally executed for being raped, and you need four male witnesses to even convict someone of rape. In the US, rape is one of the shittiest things you can do and there are barely any people, other than rapists, who would disagree. Feminists usually hold up wackos on the Internet as "proof" of rape culture but the vast majority of people are anti-rape. I mean, obviously.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 03:40 AM
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Yeah, I mean I don't want to get scolded for "dissing" them (although to be honest I think every community should be open to critiques even within itself- it's just fascism otherwise). I was literally just thinking about how extremists in one area are just as bad as extremists in another area. Sometimes I feel like you could take some "misandry" post on Tumblr, replace "men" with "women" and you wouldn't be able to tell where it came from. This by the way is one reason I prefer RPW and monogamy-…
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/14 03:19 AM
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Makes sense. And I agree that's usually how it's seen IRL. It's unfair.
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/14 03:09 AM
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That's what I would like to have. I don't think it's possible with my genetics...it could get that long but it would take so much styling to get it done up like that.
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/14 03:08 AM
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I haven't seen anyone specifically defend NAMALT but I have seen women complain about not being able to trust men because of what one guy did, and pretty much all the answers are that it's unfair to judge men by the actions of one (which I agree with, by the way)
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/14 03:08 AM
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Sorry, I didn't mean to criticize the sub itself- just that I'm explaining it will have some guys who are angry/hateful and others who aren't, much like any other community.
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/14 03:07 AM
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I see this all the time on feminist blogs (like, men writing in and complaining) although I actually don't blame them bc the stuff being said is really heinous. I haven't noticed either gender getting more/less offended by nasty generalizations.
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/14 03:06 AM
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You have a great point! I think this would explain this phenomenon within both RP and feminist circles.
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/14 03:06 AM
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that's true, when a guy takes no responsibility for something he does generally get his ass handed to him. I just find it inaccurate to suggest that men are individuals and women aren't. I understand the motives behind it though.
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/14 12:08 AM
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my SO (gasp) actually cuts my hair. Whenever it gets longer than bra band/shoulder blades, he usually recommends cutting it. I think he prefers it to have a clean, thick line at the ends.
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/14 12:03 AM
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Right. As a woman who admittedly is more on the prude end of things (when single...in a relationship it's an entirely different story) I completely support the women who want to slut it up. I think they shouldn't be surprised if men don't take them seriously, but I also see no point in saying they're bad people or whatever.
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/14 12:02 AM
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You could also argue a good "weeding" option is waiting a while to put out. The guys who are only interested in casual sex will get bored and get lost, whereas the guys who want commitment will wait for you. At least that's what I did.
/r/RedPillWomen21/03/14 11:59 PM
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Fair enough. lol
/r/RedPillWomen21/03/14 11:50 PM
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Then wouldn't it make sense to also not be OK with NAMALT? I figure that TRP is based off the idea that both men and women behave in their own, gender-specific generalized ways.
/r/RedPillWomen21/03/14 11:43 PM
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Very interesting point. I agree that in general women's faults are rationalized and excused in mainstream media- like you see a lot of "Warning signs you should dump him" articles but almost nothing with the genders reversed. Funny enough, I saw a ridiculous article in Cosmo about things young men NEED to do (one of them being oral sex) but it specifically mentioned several lines later that a woman isn't compelled to give blowjobs. Nobody in the comments section noticed the glaring double standa…
/r/RedPillWomen21/03/14 11:42 PM
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Well I do think that most people, even nice ones, can cheat or be awful in the "right" circumstances. For example, my boyfriend is a wonderful man, but there was a time in our past, years ago, when he did something really bad to me. It could also be attributed to immaturity, but of course even a "good" guy can have weaknesses and obviously the same is true of women! But I'm not sure women can do more than a man can. In some areas they can, in the sense that a man acting femininely is criticized …
/r/RedPillWomen21/03/14 11:39 PM
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Cool! yeah, I just wanted to get an interesting discussion going, it's fine if you don't have an immediate answer!
/r/RedPillWomen21/03/14 11:29 PM
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wow great advice! I want to repeat this like a mantra every morning. I really appreciate this.
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/14 11:34 PM
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true, that's just a LOT harder to cultivate. Like I literally don't even know where I would start.
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/14 11:02 PM
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Yep. Because he's already well aware of my jealousy, he usually rolls his eyes and tells me to shut up (jokingly). Because the thing is, he doesn't see it as flirty because he's literally just talking to them. But I pretty much view any male-female interaction as sexual if the people are both attractive and laughing. So I think it's really MY problem and I can't expect him not to speak to women. We do have a "no one on one FM interactions" so basically he can chat with my friends but I need to b…
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/14 10:36 PM
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LOL :) I don't get too jealous of celebs/porn stars usually, just real-life women and many of them are close friends of mine! I don't think SO means anything by it (he has always had some female friends that did not turn sexual) but it still makes me mad!!! >:(
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/14 10:14 PM
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I think I will, I was initially put off by the title LOL. I definitely don't "tease" my SO at all, I probably should...
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/14 09:25 PM
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yes, I definitely should do this :) It's hard because I want to kiss him all the time but I think I'm just too affectionate. It's no longer special when I touch him because I do it all the damn time!
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/14 09:13 PM
0

I think my SR is the highest it's going to be. I'm not a 10, probably more like an 8...but I Think that's the highest I can get it! I have a good body (in very good shape), I got braces so my teeth look good, i have long hair, I dress nicely...I guess at this point plastic surgery is the only thing that woudl make me "hotter" but I don't like the idea of changing my actual face Unless you have ideas for things I coudl be missing :)
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/14 08:56 PM
1

Yeah. I mean to be fair we were long distance and not very serious at the time, and I had my fair share of indiscretions (not cheating or anything, but just behaving in a way that wasn't respectful of him). I know I need to get past it and I'm at the point where I'm no longer mad at him for it, but I still hate that whore so much....
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/14 08:49 PM
1

I've actually read that before and I loved it :) However I'm not sure precisely how I'd apply it to this exact situation....
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/14 08:48 PM
1

any concrete tips for this? Like give him more space? Dress up nicer? The more specific, the better!!
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/14 08:48 PM
1

lol I know, but I keep thinking- if he leaves me when I'm 40, what the hell am I going to do?! fall into a ditch??? The truth is, I'd say our relaitonship is happy and he's wonderful to me, but my anxiety about the past (and stuff that happened to me before I even met him- I've been left for the "other woman" a few times, but granted I was a teenager...) kind of taints my view of myself. The guy I lost my virginity to dumped me for a "hotter" girl a few days later. So as a result I have a really…
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/14 08:45 PM
1

Any tips for that, or any ways I could see this in a more concrete/obvious way?
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/14 08:43 PM
1

well yeah, if that's what they want I don't think anyone is faulting them for that. I could see the benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 08:27 PM
3

Most of my male friends are early 30s and are going after women in their early 30s. I guess it would make more biological sense to be sniffing after 18 year olds, but they occasionally go on dates with much younger women and find them uninteresting, but good for sex. These are also highly educated men, so I think when it comes to marrying someone they want someone who has been through school, developed more perspective, etc. having said that, the OLDER men I know (by that, I mean 40+) also usual…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 08:26 PM
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See, I find this interesting because ever since TRP I've been trying my hardest to be the most realistic about my place in the world and how important I am and I am trying to "break myself down" a bit. Like when I think "If he leaves me, I could always find someone else" I remind myself that pretty much nobody wants to marry a 25-year-old unless they're well into their 30s and even then nobody would commit to me unless I'm like a 9-10/10. I keep reminding myself I will never do better than SO an…
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/14 08:22 PM
0

Really interesting input.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 06:21 PM
2

Makes sense. I do think it's also relevant that it's unlikely for a woman to even have an orgasm from short-term encounters. At least that's one reason I was never open to them, even with gorgeous guys. Also, I was aware that having a high partner count would bring down my chances for marriage later on. I think that's part of it too, at least for some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 01:15 AM
1

This is very true; I feel like men generally get the bad rep when it comes to these things and very few people are willing to admit that women are just as much to blame. I don't think women are worse than men, of course, but I think both are equally capable of shitty behavior and very rarely does anyone acknowledge the female side of this. In that sense, I get why women are criticized more often than men on TRP- and obviously the examples I cited are extremes (they're not strawmen though, since …
/r/RedPillWomen09/02/14 11:24 PM
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Why do you think that is? I would venture because women have very little to gain from casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/14 11:23 PM
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Ah, yes, I definitely know what you mean. I also think it's ridiculous that women (some women, at least) justify that behavior by blaming the original SO. I do think that sometimes things can drive a person to cheat (sexual neglect, definitely!) but cheating is still not OK- the right thing to do would be to break things off first.
/r/RedPillWomen09/02/14 07:37 PM
4

Huh, I actually didn't know men felt this way. This is great to know! For the record, I've been with my boyfriend for a long-ass time even when we both had no money. It definitely makes the better times even better when you remember what you've gone through together.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/14 07:35 PM
2

So I've actually been propositioned by wealthy and good looking , charismatic men and said no ...is the idea that every woman is capable of cheating , or that every woman definitely will with the right guy? I feel like I would feel too guilty to ever do it, even if I did want to. (Which so far I haven't)
/r/RedPillWomen09/02/14 08:23 AM
2

Oh I'm aware! Lol. I feel like being a single woman us really quite terrifying...if a man wants sex he can just pay for it if absolutely has to. But women need commitment and you can't "game" someone into it (at least not easily) and we don't usually enjoy casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/14 03:08 AM
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Intelligent people are aware you don't take "meds" for autism. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/14 03:06 AM
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Women do have to understand men in order to lock them in for commitment. Not that they all do , but there is an incentive. Women need men more than the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 07:07 PM
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Lol well there's some truth to it and I think 70% of the wall is just getting fat/not caring about your looks anymore so I think it's possible to approach it more gracefully if you stay in shape (of course there's a point where you are just old, but by then hopefully you are married) But yes it happens which is why you shouldn't spend your 30s "finding yourself". As for the cock carousel I'm not entirely sure what that means...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 08:13 AM
1

No, nothing like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 08:07 AM
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That's fair. All women certainly can but I think it's crazy to assume they do it more than men (it's probably about the same)
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 07:57 AM
1

yes. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 07:00 AM
2

I agree with all of this!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 06:35 AM
1

Yes, thank you. This is exactly what I'm talking about and I think it spans all races. I don't think this is always the reason a man might get laid overseas, but I'm sure that being American is an asset. A guy I know went to China and he says tons of women just hang out in the Starbuck's hoping to find ANY american man. It's not because they think Americans are sexy, it's because they want to get the fuck out of China.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 06:03 AM
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LOL right on!
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 06:01 AM
1

Yeah, I have my moments where I have my version of this, usually when I see guys with perfectly great girlfriends cheating constantly to the point where they feel accomplished if they don't cheat for a week. Hang in there :)
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 06:01 AM
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I agree with all of this! As for gorgeous entitled people, it's obviously not ALWAYS true which is why I said "tend". My SO has said that most girls of my level tend to be "bitchy", and I can admit it's true, so I can only imagine how the majority of super-super hot girls are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 06:00 AM
2

You see fat old guys banging supermodels...daily? or are you just referring to the bad stuff women do?
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 05:37 AM
1

Yeah, I feel like women would all vote for the men cheating more, men would do the reverse lol
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 05:37 AM
0

First off, hilarious SN. Second off, read the TOS of ROK. It says literally that women are judged by youth and beauty, men are judged by character.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 05:36 AM
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No, usually this comment is made about Russian white women (although I guess it can mean about anyone not American). I don't think any of it is even true (as in, I believe the stories are often made up) but when they are true, it's rarely because the women were just so "taken" by such an alpha male. It's because they see America as a status thing. ETA: Many men make a habit of spending thousands of dollars specifically to have sex with women overseas, so I'm sure they do get action occasionally …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 05:35 AM
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no idea, I always thought more men cheated than women.
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 05:13 AM
1

Oh, when it's strangers I never feel weird. If a man I knew hit on me (which wouldn't happen because all the men I know are SO's friends!) I would be really shocked.
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 05:05 AM
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me too :) I'm trying to be really aware of it. so far i've never said no to sex with him.
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 04:57 AM
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First thing I found: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/women-cheating-men-study/story?id=13885519
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 04:55 AM
1

Well, they all do, to different extents. I think there are a variety of RP philosophies- for example there is a subset of RP where men want nothing to do with women AT ALL and are hoping for female sex robots to replace women. Not joking. I personally prefer Just Four Guys, The Rules Revisited and Athol Kay, but those are also more female friendly so of course I'll prefer them. Since I have zero interest in casual sex I have zero interest in the RP blogs that veer toward "PUA" status
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:54 AM
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Because there are people who don't get it. You obviously aren't one of them, but there are guys who are like "I did everything right with this gorgeous woman, why isn't she into me?" as though women are some kind of easy, mathematical puzzle. I don't think TRP is "about" that, but there are guys on TRP who think that way. I have seen it literally said that men's attitude is 100% of it and appearance NEVER matters. Interestingly, I see the same thing on Jezebel from idiot commenters. That's obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:51 AM
5

I once had a woman go up to me at the gym and tell me she wanted my butt. Coming from a man my reaction would have been VERY different. lol
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 04:48 AM
0

It's extremely common for a man to approach me in a random non sexual setting and say "I just wanted to tell you that you're absolutely beautiful" with seemingly no plan for asking me out or anything. It's odd. My response is usually a polite "I'm in a relationship, but that's very nice of you," and then I walk away.
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 04:47 AM
1

There is a lot of research on this and I'm too much of a lazy fuck to look it up, but I have a theory that men and women are just becoming less attracted to each other- because men like femininity deep down and women like masculinity...and basically, they wind up in sexless marriages controlled by a "power struggle" where they're both fighting against their natural urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:42 AM
1

Depends on what you mean by TRP. TRP isn't a monolith, at least on reddit. I see guys claiming that no matter how they look they bag 9s, which is absurd. Yeah, of course- self improvement will TOTALLY help you get hotter women! Definitely! The problem is, hot women already have a lot of offers so it won't be a foolproof thing. If you become an 8 by means of self improvement, you have pretty good chances with 8s. I thought the question was about 5/10 guys who aren't going to get any better, and j…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:42 AM
1

I kinda posted about this recently. Women do care about looks, just some women care more than others and we don't care as much as men do. As for bagging 9s, why is everyone so obsessed with this? 9s are really rare. would a 7/8 really be the end of the world? 9s have been known to be extremely selfish and lazy in bed, so, yeah. Sex is easier for attractive women to get. Commitment is easier for attractive men to get. But at the same time, it's not impossible for anyone to find sex/commitment as …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:40 AM
3

Actually, I've seen some really racist things from RP guys- not on reddit but on ROK. One guy went on for a while about how Black people looked like gorillas, and then was like "but it's not racist". Like come on dude if you're going to be racist just say you're racist and get it over with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:37 AM
1

Well....I don't know, I guess my SO is kind of an alpha- he likes to be the boss, likes to be in charge, but the idea of "dominating" me or having me totally dependent on him would weird him out. In fact, he's always encouraging me to go farther in my career. I mean, how do you explain "power couples"? I believe it's possible for there to be an alpha who wants an alpha female as his partner, instead of a submissive partner. The funny thing is, I'm probably more submissive than my partner wants m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:35 AM
1

fair enough!
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 04:34 AM
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This is true too. I notice that a guy who is an 8 acting one way is very different from a guy who is a 5 acting the same way. Sometimes what reads as sexy/dangerous from an 8 reads as "rapey" from a 5. It's not fair, really, and I wish more women would at least be aware of it instead of pretending that conveniently, all the hotter guys they know are just "more interesting". By the way, I've met a lot of hot guys with terrible personalities and somehow girls don't notice. In college I was pursued…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:33 AM
1

I just made a whole post about this, so feel free to check that out. At the end of the day, having sex with a 7 isn't the end of the world. In fact it's my theory that the truly gorgeous women are kind of shitty lays.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:28 AM
3

Nah, go ahead and bother. Chances are always possible at least theoretically. Plus, I suspect that most of the '9s' guys refer to are really 7s and 8s because I feel like actual 9s are crazy-rare. Also, you can improve your appearance without genetic blessings. Work out, dress well, learn how to style your hair and grow some stubble...men have their forms of "makeup" too. I'd probably be a 7 if I didn't work out, grow my hair out, wear natural makeup and bandage dresses every weekend. Smoke and …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:25 AM
1

I'm a purple-pill woman, but I think this is a little over-the-top. Unless a woman is passed out or has a gun to her head, she is capable of saying no. If a woman doesn't say no, and then years later realized she was "coerced" that's called regret, not rape. However, if a woman is underage, overly drunk (like unable to open her eyes properly) or passed out, obviously consent isn't even possible and sex just shouldn't happen. I have been sexually assaulted, by the way (not PiV rape though) and tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:23 AM
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Only one that I know of- RPW. I wish there were one for PPW :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:20 AM
1

LOL ok cool. I'm probably more 'purple' pill if anything but BP women are too insufferable to talk to.
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 04:20 AM
2

Yep. My partner number is in the single digits and men who I've turned down called me a slut after I started dating my boyfriend. Oh, because having sex with a monogamous partner is SOOO SLUTTY
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:17 AM
2

It's fair not to settle down with a girl who has had sex with every guy in town. But some guys actually get into why these women are terrible people and not worthy of human decency and it's like...well you had sex with her, maybe don't look for girls like that then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:16 AM
2

This is one reason I'm not entirely RP- RP guys spend so much time pissing on "sluts" and talking about how awful sluts are, then they spend every waking moment trying to have sex with sluts and saying that relationships are terrible and married women are prudes. basically, men can't do anything wrong and women can't do anything right. I have respect for men who go out and screw around, and respect the women who screw around with them. I know a guy like this; I'd never want to get involved with …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:16 AM
1

Divorce rates. We wind up with fewer people getting married and fewer people staying married. I live in a city where the gender roles are ridiculously switched and pretty much nobody is attracted to anybody. It's crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:14 AM
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I think the definition of "rape" should be defined by a woman/man who is so drunk that she/he cannot literally form coherent sentences/thoughts. Being 4 drinks in makes you drunk but you're still able to make decisions, depsite having slightly flawed judgment. Being 20 drinks deep and half asleep? Then it's bad. Obviously having sex with someone passed out is rape. If both people are super drunk, all bets are off. Nobody raped anybody. Generally drunk sex (IMO) sucks so I don't know why anyone s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:13 AM
2

Hm, ell I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned but what about sex?! I know the general rule is that women stop giving it up after marriage or moving in but if you find the right women and keep taking care of yourself...you've pretty much got ass on demand. At least that's what my partner has.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/14 04:10 AM
2

my goal is to make sure he's so drained that he wouldn't even have the physical capability to find it elsewhere if he tried. rubs hands together evilly sarcasm of course but ya know...lol
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 03:55 AM
0

I know :( I just find this insane because I can't imagine ever doing that to a guy. Even if my sex drive was low (which it isn't) I would have sex with my guy anyway just because it's really part of being in a relationship and it's cruel to say no unless you have a physical reason for it.
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 03:54 AM
1

This is very true- do you think it's because she was never attracted and just wanted him for the financial security, or do you think the man becomes less masculine/in charge throughout the marriage and her attraction dries up? Do you think it's totally intentional from day 1?
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 03:54 AM
3

Yeah, I like hearing men's POV from time to time, and giving them a female opinion when they're looking for it, but then I get wrapped up into pointless discussions with men who just simply put, hate women. Where's the fun in that?
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 03:53 AM
4

Do you believe that you can make generalizations about men, or only women? I agree with your XYZ comment :)
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 03:52 AM
2

Makes sense. I've deviated from my usual preferences a few times, but it's never been some crazy difference where the guy was 5 points below me or something. I also haven't dated that much though, and I've never had casual sex.
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 03:51 AM
3

Oh definitely- fame and money certainly help. But we're talking about guys who don't have either of those things- who just have "alpha" attitude. I mean, that can help, but if a woman is getting attention from guys with wealth, charisma and good looks, it makes sense she'd go for the best man there.
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 03:50 AM
0

LOL seriously! I'm not married but have been with my BF for a really, really long time (years and years) and we have sex now more than when we met.
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 03:23 AM
3

Honestly that wouldn't do it for me...lol. I mean, I guess if I just wanted to be provided for I could suffer through the sex or whatever, but it wouldn't turn me on sexually.
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 03:22 AM
3

Oh definitely not ALL RP men. I've met some awesome ones who genuinely seem interested in furthering their relationships and being supportive leaders. I wouldn't be surprised if the ones I'm thinking about are bitter after having some bad experiences, I mean you see women like that too.
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 03:21 AM
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You agree that women get turned on by men regardless of if they're Ryan Gosling or a morbidly obese bald guy on reddit? I mean that's the one thing I can't see AT ALL...women may not care about looks as much as men do but we DO care or else we'd all be fantasizing about Winston Churchill instead of Charlie Hunnam, lol
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 03:20 AM
2

I get that, and I pretty much agree- but in terms of being "all like that"...I mean, to what extent? Are most women attracted to 60 year old dudes and don't care about a guy's looks? I mean, I'm not super shallow or anything but it would be cool for a guy to be basically within my range...
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 03:19 AM
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Oh, I agree...sometimes I have a similar level of confusion and anger at BP women who try to derail my relationship by psychoanalyzing me without knowing me, and claiming that I'm some kind of abuse victim because I am able to submit (willingly) to a man who has my interests in mind. I imagine those are the women these men are so angry about, because pretty much all of them embody every awful double standard out there. Men must love fat women! It's not all about looks! I won't date any guy under…
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 01:26 AM
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I saw that and loved it :) Yeah, I definitely saw this as the "anger" stage but what bugs me is not only the anger, because I get that- I've had my angry moments too. But also the fact that people think they can tell me deep psychological things about myself, and then if I disagree it's like "Oh, little lady, you don't even KNOW how much you want to fuck an alpha on the side." Like, yes I do, I've had that option and I get propositioned for sex with attractive/masculine men pretty often, regardl…
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 01:25 AM
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That's my thought too- similar to the women who say all men are pigs! Obviously they're not, it's safe to say a lot are, but then again there are an equal amount of awful women in the world. I just don't like hearing that I have zero free will in my life because everything I do is dictated by whether or not an alpha man is trying to have sex with me. Kinda grinds my gears :P
/r/RedPillWomen08/02/14 01:12 AM
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