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They're against secretly thinking that women are stupid children on the inside, and keeping that from them, while we lie and trick them into thinking we're something we're not, essentially robbing them of their sexual agency by denying them knowledge of who they're fucking. Case in point "informed consent" that was even advocated in this very sub around the time of the whole Cali legislative retardation of affirmative consent (lol) on college campuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 09:40 PM
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There are two eye witnesses, whom both saw the girl completely motionless and unconscious, and the man penetrating her. I've read that they tackled him and he started yelling for help because he thought he was getting mugged. Kinda makes me wonder how drunk he was and what effect it had on his judgment and senses. There is medical records to prove she was unconscious, and had an extremely high alcohol level. He also had an "extremely high alcohol level". I've read that part of his defense was he…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 08:59 PM
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They are cool, weak people make themselves weaker by avoiding hardships. One day they will break down for mundane reasons and retreat to their safe space. Not before thought crime and freedom of speech is a felony.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 02:07 PM
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Hell the biggest safespace on this site is for white males; /r/The_Donald. You wrote white females wrong and /r/TwoXChromosomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 02:06 PM
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David Lisak's 'studies' have been debunked. IIRC Reason magazin has a couple of articles on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 06:37 PM
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This is what is wrong with the world today. People giving other people prizes for basic logical reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 03:01 PM
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I don't. Not that you would know since you can't be ass'd to remember shit or read comment history.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:53 PM
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We have so much in common! Then again I apparently I'm more observant, read more and have better memory.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:51 PM
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No dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:49 PM
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want more? Sure. Show me more how horrible women are and how coddled and emotional they are :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 01:22 PM
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Yey you discovered comment history. Good boy! Perhaps you can show gridxx how to use it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 12:16 AM
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No wonder we have the same discussions every other day. Goldfish country.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 12:12 AM
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You know now that I think about it you might be right. Any time somebody kills an alleged rapist it's a dude or a bunch of dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 11:49 PM
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He's been here for months now and has revealed plenty. Yet you show a profound lack of knowledge about his situation. Like he poofed into existence in this very thread and never posted anything before.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 11:33 PM
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Only if you ignore every other comment she made in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 11:24 PM
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The more insulting thing is she cant even be bothered to know a thing about you even though you have posted here for some time now. You already said plenty about yourself in comments over the months you've been here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:37 PM
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Both of them have been here a long time now. If grid (and you) can't be bothered to remember a thing about OP then he has a point in calling here out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:34 PM
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If you see a guy who you think is a 4 but who you have no interest in at all, your best bet is to either rate him 3 or below or to "skip" which automatically assigns a lower rating to him. It's not consequence free. Rating 20% 4 or 5 stars means that only 20% were deemed "dateable," not that 20% were deemed attractive. How is that an improvement? It just boils down to only 20% being good enough to interact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 05:28 PM
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Not according to BSDM community.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 11:24 AM
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You are thick as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 11:15 AM
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What's next ? Women are payed 77 cents on the dollar? Last time I looked at that study it was comparing like to like, same crimes to same crimes. Not the totality of all prison sentence distribution among gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 11:07 AM
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Which is beyond stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 12:42 AM
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I was under the impression that he posted the pic himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 05:23 PM
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Sauce?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 05:07 PM
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Nope. Honest studies are pretty clear that women commit more violence toward their partners and children. Lesbian couples have the most DV, followed by hetero couples and dead last are male gay couples. Look at that. The less women there are in a given relationship the less DV there is. The study the OP is talking about is almost certainly IIRC a meta study of some 200 DV studies. And as I remember it was pretty clear that most violence comes from women. You know what is the saddest thing? Peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:36 PM
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You're delusional. Women are equally or more violent than men in DV situations. It's just that people like you sweep it under the rug because it's inconvenient for your worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 12:24 PM
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Easiest way to discredit someone is to attack their character. Not by logical argumentation. Thinking is hard so why not simply sidestep it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 03:10 PM
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If it involves men, money and some form of sexual gratification my money is always on men being the primary victims (of war).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:28 PM
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Yes it is.
/r/askTRP29/09/15 03:36 AM
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They aren't transsexual enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:42 AM
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An unfounded assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:07 AM
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Everyone's bodies do function roughly the same. It's only the fatties that think they are special.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:31 AM
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I know. I'm a sane person that can count calories.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:41 AM
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A few less calories a day also subtract down. It's not rocket science no matter how much you want it to be. It's simply lack of discipline and will. 99.99% have no problem losing weight when they apply themselves. The rest have little to moderate problems but they can still lose weight no matter their health problems. But hey it's easier crying over a gallon of Ben&Jerry's while tumbling about thin privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:16 AM
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Variables exist but they don't simply ignore the laws of the universe. Btw people (fat ones more so) are shit at estimating calories eaten. That's why god invented calorie trackers and food scales.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 03:42 PM
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Lol so blatantly lying. Super clear you are fat. How much are we talking about? 200? 300? 400 pounds? Only fatties don't understand laws of thermodynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 09:51 AM
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Really? It not accurate that the more mass something has the more energy is needed to move it and cool it? That the human body needs more calories then more flesh is on it? You should write to whoever taught you physics because it's obvious the did a very shitty job. Also lol at "body requirements". They are just fat 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:58 AM
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Oh noes a fatty called me creepy. Whatever shall I do. I know. I'm going to eat a gallon of ice cream to drown my feelings in processed fats and sugars. Oh wait I'm not an obese beast. I guess human sized bites of chocolate for me :(
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:16 AM
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Lol. 35% of the US is obese. I'm not even talking about the super obese hamplanets that have cheeseburgers orbiting their pathetic excuse of a body. Just "normal" obese fucks. They still consume more than thin people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:09 AM
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Those are just healthcare costs. What about lost productivity? Increased expenses for transportation and cooling (fat people need significantly cooler spaces to not sweat). Larger homes so the beasts can actually move around without greasing the walls. Increased food consumption. Increased expenses for skinny people (seeing an obese person is traumatic; therapy for PTSD isn't cheap). Shit this is just from the top of my head. Fat people are bad for the environment and skinny people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:42 AM
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Woosh. They either lose weight or die sooner because they get fatter. So it works (less fat people around). Mission accomplished.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:35 AM
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You are trying to say shaming is bad because it doesn't produce the results the shamer would like (in this case less fat people). I pointed out that it does in fact work you just didn't examine the rest of possibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:18 AM
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There are more obese people in the States than those simply overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:09 AM
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That isn't a bad thing. They get fatter they die sooner. Sounds like shaming works. Either they lose weight or die sooner. Now that is a win win if I ever saw one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:00 AM
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It's uncomfortable only to homophobes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 01:09 AM
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That sub was soooooo good. Great with morning coffee. RIP FPH.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 12:10 AM
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Weak sauce. Find the thread were they goaded the dude into dating/fucking an HIV positive women. That's fucking insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 11:24 PM
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I'm not teaching anyone anything :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 06:55 PM
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Here the infamous comment 171 http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2091#comment-326664
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 09:59 PM
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Thank you for this. It was a joy to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 08:47 PM
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That is such a copout. They are giving dating advice based on feminist theory, through a feminist lens. Did you even read the OP? All of the shitty, contradictory advice he got is from feminists. What's that guy's name from MIT? Scott Anderson? That comment where he describes how fucked up he was from reading feminist bullshit and trying to date using it. The one that had hordes of feminists rebuking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 08:20 PM
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Wtf are you talking about? Feminist DATING websites aren't about dating? Are you serious? It's just another platform to shit on men. Something OP said in his post. Stop trying to excuse feminist when they do shitty things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 06:52 PM
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You posted a name of a doctor you are going to see. They dox you with bits of personal info you post over the course of months.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 06:43 PM
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Well since you still sound bitter one has to wonder how much of an improvement it was. Apparently not much. Guess you didn't even manage to self improve in the slightest. I guess you really did waste 4 years. Well good luck either way :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:42 PM
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Well that's too bad granny. I love learning new words.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 10:30 PM
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Facepalm. Amazing that you still don't get it. I guess one can only simplify something so much. I don't think I can go below ELI5 :(
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 09:24 PM
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IIRC coverture only covered something like 1% of the population and there were responsibilities on the side of men. Where are this sources? I'm on mobile.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 09:13 PM
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Masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 09:05 PM
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What's wrong with it? It works both ways. Kid's going to have bad marathon time (cause asthma, duh). I was just saying you aren't very smart. Then again anybody who just repeats feminist ideology isn't the brightest person. P.S. Intellectual fortitude sounds redundant. Instead of just repeating mindlessly perhaps you could provide some sources for this whole "women were property".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 07:50 PM
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So what is masculinity to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 06:30 PM
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You sound bitter :) Also very nice hypoagency. You should have studied gender studies, would fit right in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 04:30 PM
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Lol. Your intellectual fortitude is as good as an average asthmatic kid's ultra marathon times. You are just regurgitating feminist talking points. You are forgetting that 99% of men were locked in their roles and that past millenia had more important matters than human rights such as survival of the individual and the human species. Women had more important things to do then have careers (as did most of the men), namely making babies and feeding them. It's no accident that human rights became a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 04:00 PM
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Lol. Roosh wants publicity. He only got caught because he showed his face.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 01:32 PM
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You're delusional if you think that "every woman" is going to recognize game some day. You aren't fighting a static target. You will also get a good deal of false positives which means that confident dudes that have nothing to do with RP will take the fall. Not to mention how many women are going to be paranoid "if the guy is RP". You are just writing your future field reports.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:26 AM
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Don't be stupid. Not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:16 AM
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So 75-80% of homeless aren't men? That's a distortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 01:36 PM
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Glad you acknowledged the existence of what RPers call feminine imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 01:35 AM
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That's not what blackout drunk means. Blackout drunk means you had a sudden spike in your blood alcohol level that leads to inability to form short term memory which leads to memory loss. Those people are going to appear lightly drunk but they will still form sentences and act normal they just won't remember anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 05:06 PM
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And yet men are something like 75-80% of homeless. You get way too emotional on this stuff so you miss the general point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 05:02 PM
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How naive. who are the law makers? People that understand they have to pander both to their voter and to their sponsors. Men at the top don't give a shit about men. They don't vote enough. What gender is our president? Male. With official office for women shit (not one for men). A man that made happen a stimulus that was heavily geared toward women even if they didn't get the brunt of unemployment following the financial crisis. Why are men using the platform of controlling women's bodies to win…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 05:00 PM
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Maybe the exorbitant amount is so that the children can live a lifestyle to which they had grown accustomed. Then the parents shouldn't get divorced. A single household has less expenses than two households. I think it's ridiculous that everyone is looking at the kid(s) but not the parents. Like they are just giant wallets for the kids. Mommy and daddy got divorced. Tough shit. No more iPads for Christmas.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 04:45 PM
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I detect some surprise and a bit of indignation in the tone of some of the articles I've read on this. "I detect some surprise and a bit of indignation in the tone of some of the articles I've read on this." - OP We all like to skim.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 04:41 PM
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I was able to fuck with my girlfriends without worrying about producing an offspring. The pill has been legalized directly due to feminist campaigns back in the day. I'll give them that. Interesting enough I've read that some feminists saw the pill as extending patriarchal control. Our dwindling economy has benefited from the additional workforce that women provide. This permitted (among other factors) to have generous social programs, which allowed me to study in college for free. I've landed a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 04:36 PM
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Well I hope she wouldn't to continue to prostitute herself while raising her children. That would just be child abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:12 PM
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I doubt it. For you specifically. You could be a house maker and, IIRC, a prostitute as you are now. No change on what you could be from what you want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:55 PM
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Assuming you are not being sarcastic I would say because any tension never builds up to unmanageable levels. With guys there is a lot of poking to determine each others boundaries with ways that are probably more prone to overreaching but both guys usually know to straight up tell each other when it's "not cool bro".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:40 PM
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Oh man those are the sweetest guys to shit talk back. You just know they ate raging every time you put an RPG up their ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:33 PM
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You life wouldn't be much different compared to today considering what you told people here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:54 PM
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How exactly have you benefitted from feminism? Specific examples please.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:51 PM
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Why then women's spaces? Which are almost always also safe spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:02 AM
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IIRC that quote attributed to Churchill. You could at least use the original version. It's more classy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 10:49 PM
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She isn't chubby. She's fat. Almost certainly obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 10:46 PM
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That last sentence. Apply it to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 09:15 PM
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You forgot to add 2 in the front and 0 in the back if you are going to eyeball her weight. I also wouldn't use the word solid to describe her. More like gelatinous. Or wobbly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 09:02 PM
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You are still over thinking this shit. The simple answer is to become Chad. And how long have you been in this noob phase? A year? Two years? Link you can find in your comment history.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 06:30 PM
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You have a very limited view on things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 06:27 PM
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Dude not getting laid is certainly going to allah ahbar sooner :D
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 06:20 PM
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Amazing what stupid shit you waste your time on. You worry you were adopted. Even if you are you have way more pressing matters to attend to. Your problem is you think too much and do too little.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 06:17 PM
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Well would you like to live in a completely free market?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 05:56 PM
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People then didn't have nuclear bombs ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 05:54 PM
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All of this is because you are a weakling and/or downright stupid. Dad: I bet you care too much about if he's too much beta or not and cant let it go. Couple that with you just wasting your time on being a depressed delusional pussy and of course the man is crying. He care. You want to make your dad happy (and you too) get your life I order. Mom: I fucking doubt you put her on Prozac. More likely she was miserable before and is using you as a scapegoat for her weakness. Ex: Why the fuck are you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 05:51 PM
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Hard not be content when you don't know any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 04:21 PM
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It stopped being the most advanced method once agriculture was invented.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 04:20 PM
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How exactly are you an abuser? Be specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 04:07 PM
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One can only hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 04:00 PM
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If you think that's "not bad at all" I don't even want to know what you are actually fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:50 PM
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Only the descendants of those that embraced agriculture. The rest are still living in the stone age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:13 PM
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You already have a good foundation assuming you didn't half ass it before. You should have little problem getting back in the game. I personally wouldn't use steroids until way older. Like 45-50. And only to slow down muscle loss. Vast majority of chicks don't really go for roided monsters, upper limit is really what you can put on naturally if you are a normal guy. Not to mention the expense of gear and food (you will need more proteins if you are going to get the most from a cycle), potential …
/r/askTRP01/09/15 12:56 AM
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Because of the myriad of potential health problems. How long have you been lifting?
/r/askTRP01/09/15 12:36 AM
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Sad thing is he is a dude. A very very broken dude with a very simplistic worldview. He's been banned from pretty much every major gender oriented sub. PPD is probably his newest discovery that's why he is on pretty much every thread recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 08:32 PM
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Because the only feminist thought I've seen referenced from anti-feminists doesn't represent mainstream sex positive intersectional/liberal feminism? Please explain this mainstream sex positive intersectional/liberal feminism to use then. With examples of theory behind it and prominent members supporting it. Include some examples of it being applied in the real world on a large scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 06:12 PM
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Let's look at what the co-founder of Duluth method has to say on theoretical underpinnings of the system she created: "By determining that the need or desire for power was the motivating force behind battering, we created a conceptual framework that, in fact, did not fit the lived experience of many of the men and women we were working with. The DAIP staff [...] remained undaunted by the difference in our theory and the actual experiences of those we were working with [...] It was the cases them…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 06:09 PM
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The Duluth method says hi. Direct product of feminism. Or how about #heforshe. Or my brothers keeper or whatever that male youth program is called before feminists started demanding women be included in it. Or how about that CDC feminist cunt that thinks "unwanted" sex on a guy isn't rape. Or NOW disinformation campaign on presumed equal custody. Or the various batter programs that don't even acknowledge men can be victims of DV. Talk is cheap. Just watch their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 05:02 PM
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Totally forgot that one. I usually think of David Reimer. Do you have a link to a decent article on the kibbutz?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 03:42 PM
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You are talking about how biologists define altruism. I'm talking about I guess a philosophical definition. The definition you are using is narrower in scope than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 04:46 PM
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Well it's back now I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 04:04 PM
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Yeah me too. Must have deleted it. Fucking cat lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 03:01 PM
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Hey can you see this comment chain? I can't logged in or not. Like it was never there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 02:25 PM
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good pedigree Woof!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 02:04 PM
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She stuck her neck out and the crowd welcomed it with cheer. I'm more concerned that she isn't being prosecuted for breaking the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:14 PM
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Which still doesn't tell us if women experience the orgasm the same way as men. All it tells us is that the involuntary shit is the same. Are women more sensitive to oxytocin? Are their brain waves different in shape or intensity during orgasm? Shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:10 PM
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Why? I wasn't talking about altruism in evolutionary theory. In the end altruism as a concept of selflessness is bullshit IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:08 PM
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I know. I was going by this reports and memory: http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_contr_use.html http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/contraceptive.htm So, go Europe I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:01 PM
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Hormonal contraceptives. Not all contraceptives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 11:32 AM
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So it's still self interest. No alarm no gene transfer. Clear personal benefit. I think it's pretty clear why I used the example of a psychopath. No warm fuzzies from "doing the right thing".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:38 AM
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Oh please stop. A comment before you said it was a fetish built on insecurity. Doesn't take a genius to connect the dots.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:32 AM
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Could you please stop with the "women are dosed with hormonal contraceptives from the moment they are sexually active until menopause" shtick? Average usage for hormonal contraceptives is 10-16% percent in the West for fertile women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:30 AM
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There is no such thing as altruism. In the end it is self interest. At least people get that satisfaction they did a good deed and get to fell all fuzzy inside. Find me a hardcore psychopath who does altruistic things for the sole reason "it's the right thing to do" and I'll reconsider my stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:05 AM
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I'm saying that the dude wants to be that dominant bull but can't or thinks he can't. Just because he also fucks her is beside the point because he can't fuck her like he wants to hence the bull. Either way it's built on inadequacy and insecurity. It's just a fucked up compensation mechanism that almost everyone without a dog in the fight finds weak and disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:51 AM
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It's not about literally not feeling you measure up, it is about enjoying the scenario. The scenario being, and I quote you: being the superior he man manly alpha that the guy's fantasy wants him to be Yeah, I think I'm going to Occam's razor this shit and say it's because of deep feelings of inadequacy. The dude wants to be in that place but can't or won't. I think that covers the majority of cuck shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 11:07 PM
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Why don't you explain it to me then. Please no walls of text.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 10:51 PM
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Which tells us only the physical side of things not mental. How it's experienced is the important part.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 10:50 PM
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So I guess the cuck is a blithering idiot then since he can't fuck his women as he wants her to be fucked and has to outsource the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 05:00 PM
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In other words you are saying that plenty of men aren't alphas. Another score for RP I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:39 PM
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Your "experience" isn't the problem. It's your assumption that "all she is going to care is getting laid" is actually, paraphrasing here, "women just want strange dick". How many men that have options are going to be satisfied with a starfish in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:36 PM
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What does that have to do with how the orgasm is experienced in the brain?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:30 PM
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Hence RP doesn't talk about it as a viable strategy more as a historical example of 80/20 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:21 PM
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The most common complaint about couples looking for a bull is to wonder what the hell is wrong with the guys looking for promiscuous no strings sex that they can find. Because not everyone wants to be part of the formalized idiocy of modern BSDM/cuck scene. What normal guy wants to be part of some small dicked/emotionally fucked up guy's sexual fantasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:17 PM
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this why i know RP is full of shit. trust me rp, polygyny is too much god damn work. Hence plate spinning. Minimal emotional investment. Jesus you've been here long enough that you should know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:14 PM
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Good thing we weren't talking about you. And why do people like you always need to have everything drawn for them? If she's not getting her rocks off she can easily move onto another dick. That's the whole point. Why would she stay with a guy if he isn't providing some sort of pleasure for her when that is the whole point why she wants to fuck around? It's completely tangential to the point I'm making.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:09 PM
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I was wondering if anyone here looks down on men, not who have been cheated on, but who had that conversation with their wife/girlfriend that they will open up their marriage/relationship to allow sex with other people. Those men are idiots. The fact of the matter is all she is going to care is getting laid and women have a massive advantage there. The best response is what the dude in that infamous story on /r/relationships did. Asked her if she was serious. She said yes. He gathered his things…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 01:20 PM
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To quote a comment on /r/relationships[1] : "if there's one thing I've learned about open relationships from reddit, it's that they usually mean that the woman gets to sleep around while the guy stays at home and has to deal with it." Unless you are that guy that managed to score a hot 20 year old that made his wife feel threatened so "their" open relationship should stop, (after she fucked a number of dudes) because reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 01:16 PM
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Uh, strawman is when you create a new argument for the other side that they don't believe. Like, it would be a strawman if I said "I dislike TRP because I think rape is wrong". You do realize that particular strawman BPers regularly use?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 01:14 AM
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That's ok, if I break your kneecaps we get to be about the same height, and I've done it some times before. Oh noes. An internet tough guy. Impotent in his rage. And 6 feet is not towering lmao. From your height I would guess it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:02 PM
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You have no idea which country I'm from. Please continue to pat yourself on the back for Enrique. I'll just look down from my towering 6 feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:48 PM
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Because his ancestors never married a fat chick :) Only short ones in your case apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 11:25 PM
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You don't have high metabolism. You just don't eat enough to get fat. Start eating a big bag of chips every day on top of what you eat usually and then come back to us on how you have a "high metabolism".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 09:53 PM
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Those fatties are a minority even amongst fatties. Hormonal problems of that sort are extremely rare and usually followed with mental retardation. Max you can gain with something involving thyroid is 20lbs. Most of the "my cunditions" crowd are simply stuffing their face with refined sugar and wondering why they are fat as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 09:24 PM
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Why don't you look at Warren Farrell's talk at Toronto(?) uni. Then look at the protests outside. BTW what's wrong with pointing finger at feminism when they are in fact guilty?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 09:53 PM
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Goooood. Let the hate test flow through you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 07:40 PM
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I have repeatedly said that it CAN be damaging and many RPers seem to pride themselves on not caring who they hurt as long as they get what they want. Not true. They care not to hurt themselves. Not an extreme. All examples you made are exactly that. Extreme. When it's unnecessary or unhelpful. Who gets to decide if they are unnecessary or unhelpful? In the example it's you who gets to decided such matters. Perhaps then RPers have a different set of things than you that they consider unnecessary…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 07:37 PM
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It's unclear because we don't all agree on what is or isn't manipulation. For example you only acknowledged the extremes of some RP recommended tactics while ignoring when and why they are used just so you could pretend that is all there is to RP and try and make your point. What is "honesty within reason"? At what point does it become unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 07:22 PM
1

Bro did you go to the gym in the last 2 days?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 07:11 PM
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They didn't cultivate that IDGAF attitude yet. TBP is a really good boot camp for that. They really should thank TBP for providing such awesome resources for cultivating TRP recommendations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 07:09 PM
1

Define manipulation and transparency in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 07:02 PM
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Irrelevant where you sympathies lie. I just think that RP is too easily dismissed as smoke without fire. BPers like to say that RP works but with a bunch of caveats that they use to keep their facade of moral superiority. Prime example is the usual "it only works on vunerable women but fuck them because they are low value trash but I'm going to pretend I don't think so to keep my illusion of being a good person".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:54 PM
1

Define informed consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:10 PM
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Shaky social science that by your own admission works. So perhaps it isn't so shaky as people like to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:08 PM
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Please do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 11:12 PM
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Off topic: I just couldn't lower my standards so far as to have sex with a fat D&D nerd with cystic acne. Or change my orientation. But whatever floats your boat. On topic: You missed my point. Carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 10:31 PM
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So she you say that to a fat D&D nerd how exactly do you think he is going to apply it? Lose weight, become more sociable, get some skin care products , new wardrobe? Or is he going to double down on being the best D&D nerd there ever was?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 09:35 PM
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A little spine goes a long way in a spineless society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 09:31 PM
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It was a product of limited productivity. Today 2-5% of the population can produce enough food for the whole society. That wasn't an option in past millennia. Really it's all about energy production.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 09:28 PM
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Amazing how you take no responsibility for your part in this whole "ordeal". Went on a date with a guy. 25 minutes into it, he's broken a few social faux pas, and I don't really like him. My brain is furiously calculating a way to get out of my situation. If there was a distraction, I'd probably like escape the other way. So you are on a date with a guy in, I presume, public place. You notice he isn't well versed on social etiquette. You dislike him. So what do you do? Stop the date and tell the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 01:06 PM
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Perfect example of not reading TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 05:58 PM
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I disagree. Calling somebody non-empathic when they are is just calling out the usual moralizing defense which BPers usually reserve for high value women and their boyfriends but deny to low value people. After they tell them women are just people or some other trite shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:24 PM
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Lol. Must be why they tell them to take responsibility for their action all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 12:19 PM
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Whoops my bad. Completely misread your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 10:44 AM
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So women are as horny as gay men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 02:36 AM
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I wonder what interesting parallels we could draw with today's consumer culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 08:11 PM
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Schrödinger's consent obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 09:28 PM
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Over-exaggerated, probably, but calling it 'delusional bullshit' is ignoring what is actually a serious issue. People trying to sell their kids as food is not a serious problem. People justifying rape and trying to convince themselves that 'she wanted it' is a serious problem. I guess you can just believe that all of these people are lying, but that seems like a cop-out. Thinking "the idea that rape is acceptable in private circumstances is still held by a significant number of people" is in any…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 11:35 PM
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The idea that rape is acceptable in private circumstances is still held by a significant number of people. That is some SJW feminist level delusional bullshit. People that hold that kind of opinion are a rounding error at best. Rape is universally denounced. 'A Modest Proposal' is a good piece of satire, because it makes the reader think about the victims involved and hate the writer. Roosh's article is nothing of the sort. It's basically just click-bait, attention seeking and is certainly not m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 11:12 PM
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I'm not arguing whether Roosh is serious or not, I'm arguing whether it's reasonable to see what he says as being serious or not. Only if you ignore the context of it. By that metric "A Modes Proposal" is a sound social policy instead of a legendary piece of satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 10:28 PM
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You take Roosh too seriously IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 10:16 PM
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I am sincerely considering meds but you would be right I am also concerned about losing my libido. For what could be a very long time. I am in my early 20s, I will never have this chance again :/ Bro you won't have chance in your 30s, 40s, 50, 60s, 70s and probably 80s because you refuse to do anything about it. This shit can eat decades of your life. Also, might? I thought it's p[retty much guaranteed. There is a chance it messes with your libido but that isn't a guarantee by a long shot. Plus …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 10:13 PM
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Huh, fair enough, yeah I was too quick on that one. Just messing with you. No hard feelings? My point stands anyway, despite my little trip up. I do still insist on hearing what you have to say to my arguments though, because I may be retarded, but I'm not wrong ;) I don't think there is much to say about Roosh's articles. Much of it is outrage porn for BPers. This one not withstanding. I don't think he is advocating for raping people but simply likes to stir the pot as this entire comment chain…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 09:30 PM
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such as? Dude just read your comments from some of the threads you posted. As an impartial observer you have some serious problems. it is hard to deal with them now that I have come to understand the world I am in I get that but you are, for example, refusing to go see a psychiatrist on the off chance they are some blue pill faggot. You KNOW for a FACT that you are messed up and are cutting of your best option to get better because there is a CHANCE the bro/chick is going to spew some feel good …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 09:26 PM
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I was being facetious. So was I ;) . I guess you missed it. Again. See, you're not really that good at distinguishing between what's serious and what isn't either. I wasn't even trying to set you up either, amazing. Ha, and you are high fiving yourself for it. Hilarious. In all serious though, I'd be more interested in hearing a response to what I've said than a lecture on my own condition. There really isn't anything to say about that particular satire. Unless you think we should be eating Iris…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 09:11 PM
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Errr... aspies aren't retarded by simply being aspies. Unless you count the lack of understanding basic social and interpersonal skills as being retarded. You're just different to the rest of us which is completely ok. It's apparently not conductive toward appreciating satire but that's really an unfortunate side effect from my point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 08:52 PM
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people have the audacity to say that I'm delusional? Not completely delusional but you have some serious problems that you refuse to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 08:44 PM
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...and the mainstream loses it's collective shit over somebody talking shit about women. I still remember, with a smile, the article about dating women with eating disorders and the shit storm that followed. This gets a mention in /r/MensRights, maybe /r/TheRedPill,/r/FeMRADebates and here. Hardly comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 08:43 PM
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No, it's just you (and number of BPers).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 08:22 PM
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Dude, Roosh wants to make rape on private propety legal. Sufferers of Asperger's syndrome shouldn't read satire. They just don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 08:03 PM
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Physically assaulting somebody isn't him "dealing with [the] backlash" it's cunts committing a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:49 PM
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Only if you have to grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 11:01 PM
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How would you know if she can't consent? What is the difference between a drunk women that can consent and a drunk women that can't consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 11:00 PM
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Didn't feminists actually take that one seriously? Agreed wholeheartedly with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 10:36 PM
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What I saw expressed in TRP is more along the lines of "you can cry in front of her for really important stuff like the death of a family member or friend or even a pet but not over things that women usually cry for".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 01:41 AM
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Not really. TRP regularly acknowledges the complicity of men in the current state of affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 01:18 AM
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Fuck that. Next her. You are being deprived of something important to you from a person that should be providing it one way or another. It's even worse because she had no problem you fucking other women before. This is going on for how long know? A year? 2 years? Did you make any progress at all? Because it sounds like you are stuck in the same place for a very long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 02:44 AM
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So you are basically being blackmailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 01:22 AM
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So what happens when there isn't anything new and exciting to do because it was already done with others multiple times?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 09:44 AM
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Consider that /u/cuittler deleted my comments for being "circlejerky and personal attacks" (god forbid you make a statement that somebody that thinks women are as capable as men is biased beyond reality) , I'll just repost my general point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_records_in_athletics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_records_in_Olympic_weightlifting Swedish football ladies beaten by teen boys So anyone that thinks women are physically capable as men should rethink …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 02:24 PM
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Fuck asteroids. Near extinction level event right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 01:11 PM
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They are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 01:18 AM
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Woosh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:42 PM
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None of my comments in this thread are deleted. Are you sure? This comment is a reply to a comment that is deleted for me. Both when logged in and logged out (same IP though). I'm pretty sure you made that (top level) comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:46 PM
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LOL. She changed title: One perk of older age? Fewer catcalls Guess somebody smarter than her told her what her title was telling people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:22 AM
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I did. They are on the path to extinction. Their population growth is negative. Perhaps you should check some basic facts before making arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:18 AM
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Last time I looked foreigners were less than 1% of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:10 AM
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Do tell. Also why is your above comment deleted?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 01:01 AM
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It's a far cry from resolving nature vs nurture in humans but look up the soviet silver fox experiments. Nature wins in that one by a mile.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 01:38 AM
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You should find the data from the beginning of the century up until know. IIRC it was very interesting. It was roughly 50/50 until the GI Bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 10:16 PM
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for disagreeing with them, despite any effort I put into intelligently communicating my thoughts. Hahahaha. You came into this sub to please your outrage boner, not to debate. Your initial (and subsequent) posts here were simply attacks on red pillers divoid of any intelligence and general douchebaggery . For you this sub is simply a less circklejerk-y extension of TBP. You aren't here to "intelligently communicating [my] thoughts". You never were. So stop with the bullshit. If you want satire g…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 11:41 AM
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Well they pick the nice one the most, then the neutral one, and the jerk the lest. Source Your source is a study which really boils down to a written test. Imaginary people on paper are a whole lot different to real-life interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 10:40 AM
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he was borrowing heavily from creationist vernacular to make his points Please. Even Dawkins is somewhere on record using the phrase "designed [by evolution]" and then correcting himself simply because at the end of the day he is looking at a highly complex system an is noticing patterns and things that appear designed from a perspective of a human being born into a world with plenty of other human-designed systems of equal or greater complexity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 10:12 AM
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in a mob democracy Is there any other kind?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 04:38 PM
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For the same work? I work on a production line in a factory. When people say physically demanding environment (in the context of gender differences) they don't think a safe but boring job. They think construction, oil rigs, garbage collection, firefighting etc. Jobs were gender strength/endurance differences come into full effect. I deserve to be paid the same. You are being paid the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 04:07 PM
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This still says nothing about individuals, and it definitely doesn't mean that women should be banned from STEM fields to tend their babies while men do real work. We bloopers generally are not upset by the findings. We're upset because people take the findings and draw completely unrealistic and vitriolic conclusions with no justification. Expecting that success be measured on merit instead a spoils system is unrealistic and vitriolic?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 02:37 PM
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and the lack of scientific understanding in the general population From OP's second link: Nancy Hopkins, a biologist at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, walked out on Summers' talk, saying later that if she hadn't left, ''I would've either blacked out or thrown up." If you can't get a female biologist at one of the nation's most prestigious institutions to even entertain the idea that men and women are different the general population has no chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 02:34 PM
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What relationship? How much of a relationship can you build in a single sexual encounter? LTR of 5 months is single sexual encounter?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 02:22 PM
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It wasn't. You didn't address my arguments. Oh, well, that was never in question. Salty TeRPers are hilarious. Very dehumanizing of you. What I find hilarious is you shitting on some RPers for treating women like a series of holes but have no problem doing the equivalent to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 02:17 PM
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Hey, man. That exchange wasn't about anybody's masculinity. Sure it was. The fact is that you shame RPers because they didn't deal with their (what you think are less horrible) childhood like you did (while making grand proclamation on how every man gets to pick their own view on masculinity). You see them as weak which is how men are shamed into conforming. He had to move on from the past and grow up. How exactly do you move on from seeing your mother destroy your father in your formative years…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 02:09 PM
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Because there are ample evidence (this sub in-particular) that people just don't give a fuck about men. People aren't as nice to men as they are to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 01:13 PM
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You - yes, you - define your own "manhood". If you want to "be a man", then "be a man"! On your terms! Unless a person chooses a masculinity you don't like. Then you shame them. This exchange is also quite indicative of who you are: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3a0h6q/why_are_trpers_so_bitter_that_attractive_women/cs8fg6a
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 01:11 PM
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I'm not shaming men. Masculinity is great. Unless a person chooses a masculinity you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 12:23 PM
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tl;dr of comments: Men should only express their feelings in ways we approve. Also if you bitch and you're a man you are weak, low-value manchild ("but I think that empathy and sympathy make you a great person") and I'm going to link your comment in TBP so I can get some sweet social validation and a self-righteous pat on the back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 02:15 AM
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Because the best way to change the system is to get integrated in it. /s for future generations
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 01:39 AM
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As soon as I see a large moderate MRA base Good luck with that. Every time they try they are either completely ignored or outright attacked by the institutional movement which is trying to maintain the monopoly on gender issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 01:21 AM
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So what if he isn't fully poly? He was still part of the community and as such he made some observations. Considering that women are less horny than men is what really skews the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 02:40 PM
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i would have to digg it up but greasy pole and nondplume and i got in to it about two weeks ago. nondplume talked about his poly experiences and it wasn't pretty. Very female-centric. AFAIK you accept that the world is gynocentric but have a problem with accepting that poly relationships are going to be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 01:58 PM
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You editorialized what I said. I just took issue with your assumption that everything is going to be ok while ignoring billions of people in the equation. It's a global society this days whether we like it or not. The only alternative to avoid the difficulties is blocking evolution and flat earthing. Or have a plan in place to sync the effects and alleviate the hardships until equilibrium is reached. Earth shattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 12:42 PM
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No, its going to be a shit storm. End of story. Glad we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 12:27 PM
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Why not? I'm not talking about automation in their own country. By the time automation trickles to their countries the developed world will have been using it for decades. Which means exports, which means extremely competitive products flooding the developing world which still doesn't have automation but has a birth rate that isn't falling fast enough and a job rate that is plummeting. Couple that with some good old fashioned Islam or whatever ideology takes it's place to placate the jobless mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 12:06 PM
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Developing countries will have their birth rate slowed down due to westernization by the time they get automation taking 40% of the work. Sure they will but you are assuming they will be sufficiently economically developed before automation hits them. Once it does hit their economies will ground to a halt. Cheap developed world products at a fraction of the locally grown/made products. We are already seeing this in agriculture were cheap food is destroying local farmers because they simply can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 11:51 AM
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and honestly a lot terper fear monger over poly too conflating old style poly from cave man day with modern western poly How exactly do they fear monger?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 11:43 AM
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Rich countries aren't going to go through a post automation crash so long as the birth and marriage rate keeps falling, and male birth control is rolled out free of charge. What about the 1-2 billion men in developing countries? Automation also means they lose jobs. You really think a bunch of uneducated <30 year olds with nothing to do will just decide to scrape by for the rest of their lives in peace? Idle hands are the devil's playground.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 11:40 AM
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In China , they abort female babies. Lack of social safety nets for old parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:48 PM
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The WOW effect is pretty detrimental to women, women seem to be viewed favorably, but that doesn't seem to translate into actual action into making women's lives better. What makes you think that the two are connected? WaW deals with positive bias women get simply by being women. Just because there are downsides (related to WaW or not) doesn't mean it doesn't exists and doesn't produce positive results for women. And if you say this came from some feminist website or whatever, I got that from Wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:35 PM
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The new number comes from a study that actually controlled for everything It controlled for everything that they could thinks of. Not everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:30 PM
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HHL was a minor celebrity on TBP. Did she delete her account?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:23 PM
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I often quoted directly from your sources, and direct comments. And then you made your own interpretations underneath does comments that simply ignored any role feminists played in those events. Accused me of being a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy nut. Accused me of not supporting your interpretation of some study. Prime example: This method is used to try to stop men from beating their women. So you think "stopping men from beating the shit out of their women" is an evil feminist ploy. Complet…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:15 PM
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It's one of the things that convinced me he/she is having a good old troll. I mean, honestly. 99% certain she is. I'm leaving that 1% in the off chance of Poe's law.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 03:43 PM
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uh. what vileness. You've ascribed a number of opinions to me that I don't hold simply to fight a strawman you invented. Accused me of misogyny to bolster you point, reinterpreted everything so that women are wonderful and without blame and simply ignored what you didn't like. Good job I guess. U mad bro? excuse me while I gloat. See this is what I'm talking about. You're appear to me as a shitty person. I don't gloat. I don't go seeking approval of others to make myself feel powerful. For all o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 03:42 PM
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Men do, women talk? /cheeky
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 03:34 PM
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The whole "women are pressured by society" argument is hilarious to me considering women make up 50+% of said society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 03:29 PM
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Thank you for posting this. It really shows how vile a person you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 03:24 PM
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True, true. What a sad state of affairs. Fuck Mary Koss.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 11:22 AM
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Don't forget to add the official rape statistic for men. So it's made-to-penetrate+rape for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 11:16 AM
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So you are saying that women train for a better part of a decade in the art of sex before starting to fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 10:40 AM
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I'll leave this here: 1)http://www.attorneyatlawmagazine.com/triangle-edition/the-trend-toward-5050-custody-arrangements/[1] From your article: In the past, the norm was the mother having primary physical custody of the children with the dad having every other weekend and maybe a dinner visit during the week. So you link me to a report from 25 years ago as proof of there being no gender bias but now you link me to an article that is saying how the trend is slowly changing. So you admit that ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 09:45 AM
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I mean I was rolling through MRP today and I saw a post (dread game- how to manipulate your wife), I don't think feminists are doing that. Feminism already did that. They provided a bunch of weapons women can use at their discretion and pretended it's equality because everyone is equal on paper. The rampant misuse of DV laws (thanks Duluth method) in divorce and in general, the biased family law which results in a 90%/10% primary custody to mothers post divorce, threats of false rape accusation …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 11:36 AM
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backlash against a man doing the same (just as gaby seems to be receiving) Well I scrolled a bit and saw only one person asking for evidence that @gabydunn was dating @joshgroban. Seems reasonable enough because I can't find any evidence of him dating said girl considering she is smearing him all over her feed. One person is hardly a backslash.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 08:43 AM
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Link please.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 01:34 PM
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We are all in agreement. Nobody here is saying that the laws aren't being applied in a sexist fashion. Just that for the most part are gender neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 02:34 PM
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LOL WTF are you talking about? /u/wazzup987 has a point. The laws (usually) aren't gendered but the application is. Why the fuck do you think they are changing them? Because middle+ class women are getting fucked by their ex's in family court on alimony. Now that the shoes is on the other foot cunts decided that they don't like it and are lobbying to change the laws to "be more fair".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 01:54 PM
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Only if a higher court didn't set the precedent. As long as their isn't precedent from the higher court the court that issued the judgement can change it from case to case. It's a pecking order really. Funnily since each court of appeals (mid tier) has a set area it governs you can get wildly different precedents on similar matters. At that point the supreme court gets involved to make the final say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 01:49 PM
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I don't get the discussions about feminism in Mad Max. Well a Eve Ensler (who consulted on this movie) sure disagrees with you. You're right that it could be just sloppy writing but is Miller really going to say if the movie has a feminist agenda? http://time.com/3850323/mad-max-fury-road-eve-ensler-feminist/ FTA: I read the script and was blown away. One out of three women on the planet will be raped or beaten in her lifetime—it’s a central issue of our time, and that violence against women rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 11:48 AM
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Links bro. That you find reputable and a good guide. Would be appreciated. I'm currently on starting stretch or some such thing but that is simply because I found it first on /r/fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 02:00 AM
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So what do you do for stretching post workout?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 01:31 AM
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It's not about who has a higher libido really, it's how the "sexual marketplace" works. You cannot deny 90% of the time it is still the men who must pursue and seduce the women. I'd argue that men's higher average libido is one of the reasons the sexual marketplace looks like it looks today.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 01:16 AM
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Well, it was developed in 1981. And do you think male victims of domestic violence were considered before that? I just can't get my head around the argument that feminism hurts male victims, when it was certainly the case that they were mocked and ignored before women's lib. At least they could smack the bitch without having to worry they would get arrested for defending themselves in every single case. Not to mention that feminists just exaggerated the whole problem by further ignoring them and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 01:10 AM
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I was offering a correction. But yes, the title of professor does hold more weight than a union officer. That doesn't mean every professor is a good one. Who give a shit. They are part of the formal nexus of power. They matter when talking about influence of feminism. You don't just get to sweep them under the rug because it makes your utopian feminism look, well utopian. If you say so. Sorry. I meant white cis straight men. Duh. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 12:05 AM
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Such as? Either way, lots of bad law is being passed these days, and the least destructive of them have to do with gender I would say. So that's hardly a hallmark of decency anyway. The whole Duluth method comes to mind (even the original idiot that made the framework say today it's sexists as fuck and based on wrong premises). Or how about VAWA and male shelters (or some such bullshit with that law)? Or how about that stimulus package that gave women-infested jobs 80% of the money (while only a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 12:05 AM
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That isn't what I said, don't put words in my mouth. Oh please. You directly implied that only professors matter not A UNIVERSITY OFFICIAL, a fucking "diversity officer". Being as how academics disagree, and there are varying degrees of intelligence in academia, and as I've reiterated multiple times, there are plenty of bad professors Please stop with the no true scotsman feminist fallacies. General consensus in feminism is "men are to blame". I'd be interested in seeing that, I remain skeptical…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 11:59 PM
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Stupid mistake IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 11:45 PM
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I'd prefer to say the "good" feminists. Silent, ineffective and a minority apparently because law are getting passed by the "bad" feminist that are very sexist. I suppose thoughtful feminist identifying sociology and law professors would be up there, though, although I doubt they'd exactly make the news. Well they must be doing a bad job because a lot of sexist laws are being passed around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 11:41 PM
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There are plenty of ignorant professors in any and every field who stand to influence students. So what? We are talking about feminism. Academic feminism, which I'm always told is the "one true feminism" (a mod here sure thinks it is and so do you). And I know of no non gender studies related major that requires a gender studies class. Pops up now and then in various subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 11:34 PM
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By that standard you can dismiss any sort of criticism about feminist because "it's just a dozen college professors spouting sexism against men". Thankfully smart people know your argument is full of shit. All it takes is one college professor to do massive damage considering that wyomen gender studies are pretty frequently mandatory courses. So we are talking about dozens, maybe even hundreds of students each year being exposed to sexists bullshit from feminists in an academic setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 11:01 PM
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So what how does your metaphorical ladder look like? Who are the "true" feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 10:53 PM
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I just googled "feminist academics misandry". Got a page full of quotes from professors and Phds about how horrible men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 10:51 PM
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AKA, "What the fuck are axioms for anyways?" A starting point. Feminism is a prime example of what happens when you have wrong axioms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 11:23 AM
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LOL. That number is from the study you linked me a few months back. 1.8% for women and 2.2% for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 11:08 AM
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We work in the mono/non-kink population... The other 90%... And those chicks are different. 1.8% of the female population is into BSDM. You also have to subtract lesbians which are a pretty large chunk of kink community when compared to general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 10:11 PM
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Women are by far more likely to talk about sex. In great detail. The most I got from bros is that mmmgh... she was hot look and grunt. Women on the other hand gave me way more detail. How, where, when and lets not forget the all-peen-that-were-in-me size chart.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 10:23 AM
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I think you have very little to worry about. That's how institutionalized sexism creeps in. The Duluth method was once a sexist idea in the head of a useless feminist. Today it is the law of the land.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 03:54 PM
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Most scientists of the past have been male, with the field being largely taught by males and the books being written by males. Are you really going to dispute me on that? I'm disputing your unbelievably, intellectually shallow argument that those other studies that didn't come to the conclusion this one did were bad because male bias. Why is this study good (while being led by dude) but the hundreds preceding it aren't (while still being led by dudes)? Let me answer for you: because it plays int…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 02:48 PM
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Well we have a different definition of misogyny. Mine doesn't include "didn't say only wonderful things about women".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 02:15 PM
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The prevailing consensus was male. Hello bias. Mark Dyble, an anthropologist. Last time I looked Mark was a man's name. And he sure as hell looks like a dude from a cursory google search. Hey I'm sure his male bias (this time) played no part in this study since it supports your ideological worldview. Unlike those other male-led studies that don't support your worldview. I'll think for myself, thanks. How's that working out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 02:12 PM
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Sure, it could also be because they're a giant drooling misogynist. Except you don't know. You are only applying your bias in reading what a person wrote. Show me some "subtext" where women say the kind of shit TRP says about women. This very thread. pandoraroise and her ilk are a prime example of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 01:59 PM
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Except that generalization is so often something like "sluts are worthless holes not good for anything but pumping and dumping". No, totally not insecure in the least, Because nobody could actually think that without being insecure amrit? No way a guy could simply come to that conclusion and NOT have an insecurity. In your worldview the answer is no, in mine the answer is yes. Even their silly half-assed click bait articles "how to train your man" don't contain anything close to that sentiment a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 01:11 PM
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I think that Assange gets a pass not because he is a non lowlife and Sweden's definition of rape is broad (not that those two things aren't relevant but when was the last time a white cis straight men got a pass for even debatable accusations?) but because he has this whole narrative that he is being prosecuted by not so secret secret agencies and they will do anything to get him. He's "fighting the elites so he must be a good guy" is your average redditors cry for supporting him. Shit, people s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 04:01 PM
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In 10 years teenagers will look back at the 2015s and idealize how the SMP actually was. They'll make a new forum on reddit's replacement and complain how all the women are ignoring them and the cycle will start over again. So what you are really saying is that RPers have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 03:50 PM
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I've never seen BPers argue against preferences. Unless those preferences aren't approved by them. BPers still throw a shitfest when a 30 year old men are fucking 20 years old women (haven't seen the gender swapped case yet from them). By their words it's "creepy" and "manipulative" or some other trite shit. I have seen BPers argue against calling promiscuous women worthless whores only good for pumping and dumping. I've never heard a BPer say that about a promiscuous man. You should look closer…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 03:44 PM
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that's not the case for ALL women, it's just what is most frequently represented. Who cares? The super majority of women aren't like you, so you being an outlier means jack shit. You certainly are applying (a part of?) your agency so kudos for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 02:53 PM
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Lol. Woosh. You really are a hamstronaut. OMG I used a BPers tactic against one. Oh noes. Spin that wheel to the Moon little, angry hamstronaut. You'll get there eventually. Either everyone is insecure including RPers or everyone has preferences, it's not your preferences and their insecurity. Well perhaps BPers should finally choose which one it is. Can't have it both way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 02:46 PM
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You sound insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 02:20 PM
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It's even common for men in gay relationships to have a open sex policy. But that might just be because I'm young and living in a liberal city. There was a study on some gay (male) couples and roughly 50% had an open sex policy. It appears to be very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:55 PM
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I remember watching a youtube video from a historian about women's lives throughout history. The point was that women were the ones with the keys to the treasury and daily household decisions not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:10 PM
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IIRC there was a recent case in China where the wife sued the husband from not forking all the money he earned to her and she won.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:05 PM
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IIRC he actually expected socialism and communism to start in very developed capitalist nations of his time not in peasant Russia.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 12:58 PM
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Gulags weren't an invention of communism. It was simply a continuation of an already existing system called katorga from czarist Russia. Gulags were simply USSR's versions of what every dictatorship has, a political prison system for it's opponents. Similar how concentration camps weren't an invention of Nazis but of British during the Colonial Era in South Africa.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 12:55 PM
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"Nobody is a man unless they agree with with me" -- /u/JNR_77 Sound logic right there. You have a future in gender studies. You will fit right in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 02:59 PM
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Now you are just making shit up and mocking people because they don't buy your sage wisdom. Why can't you treat men like actual people?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 02:47 PM
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You discussed it but there are plenty of new people in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 05:29 PM
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I can't think of a reason we need another thread for it. People want to express their opinion on this. That is a damn fine reason. Don't censor shit when it doesn't suit your worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 05:20 PM
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The party that is making the claim has to prove it. The burden of proof is on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:29 PM
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I'm rather surprised he Feminist community got behind her in such force as she had literally nothing to say other than "women are oppressed. She's a fat,unattractive hypocrite. Why wouldn't the feminist support her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:33 PM
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AFAIK Dunham is an abusive shit stain of a human being and Sarkessian is a money grubbing dishonest piece of shit with a worthless degree that is instrumental in abusing male Gamers and destroying gaming culture. I totally get why /u/dragoness_leclerq would want to smash their faces with a baseball bat. Plus it's not like it's not a decent trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:28 PM
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I'll believe you, but the official records I found indicate the opposite with 95% of rape victims being women. Well when you consider rape only being penetrated it's easy to claim that 95% of rape victims are women. But when you include being forced made to penetrate the rates are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:14 PM
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Popular? Really? There was a study posted here and it amounted to a whooping 1.8% of sexually active population.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:37 AM
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King of manlets.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 10:49 PM
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Tell that to Sweden's feminist party.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 01:53 PM
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His body his choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:56 PM
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Everyone, this is blue pill compassion in action. She wa fearful of growing old and alone, a legitimate fear. But he wasn't? His fear wasn't legitimate? The women had a SO, the guy didn't have even that. AFAICT in the girls case she appears to be the one that pretty much imploded the relationship because of her own insecurities not because she couldn't find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:24 PM
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That must be why Boko Haram was plastered all over twitter and western media when they killed 500 boy and men while letting the girls and women go. Shit even Michele Obama mentioned it. Oh wait this didn't happen. #bringourgirlsback
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:07 PM
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Having a kid she can't provide for without the dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:27 PM
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Or the women should take full responsibility for here irresponsible actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 11:29 AM
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Why? Mom gets to chose if the kid is even born but dad gets no choice if he even wants the kid. Not to mention that mom doesn't even have the duty to notify the dad he has a kid. Nah just pay and hope you get to spend some time with her/him. So much equality and justice there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 09:25 PM
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Proven false are the ones that the researchers think, with a high degree of certainty are false. They are a subset of all false cases because there can be cases that slipped through their detection grid simply because they don't have all the facts. That's why the range is so large. The crime itself is already hard to prove, false accusations even more so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:07 PM
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Which are absolutely false. If we watched it happen we would say it wasn't rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:54 PM
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That is the current possible range of all false rape cases (not just those proven false).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:20 PM
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8-50% isn't low. 0.61-0.71% is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 03:37 PM
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Yes I agree, but the false rapes numbers are only for reported rapes. So what? 8-50% of something that can end with years of prison time is not something to scoff at. Or are you simply going to ignore the moral angle of accusing an innocent person of a crime they did not commit?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 03:12 PM
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No, its of women in a specific age bracket (18-24). You are correct. I'll edit my comment above. The 0.61-0.71% still holds. As you so aptly put it, a "vanishingly rare occurrence". But as I've pointed out, not all or even most rapes are reported The DOJ study was conducted via a survey (IIRC it has a pretty big response rate). Data are from the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS), which collects information on nonfatal crimes, reported and not reported to the police, against persons from…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:40 PM
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And you claim I'm bad at stats. It's 8-50% of reported rapes. If it was 0.6-0.7% of all reported rapes you would have a point. 0.6-0.7% is of all college aged people females in US (in a given time frame). That's a "vanishingly rare occurrence" as you put it. That's how you make comparisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:25 PM
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Found the guy. Kanin. And withdrawn complaints are NOT the same as deliberate, false accusations. Sure but it puts some sort of an upper bound for false rape accusations. 8% is proven false (at least by some standards) and 50% is less likely but still relevant for purpose of discourse. Either way 8% is a hell of a lot more than 0.6-0.7% and yet you claimed that false rape accusations are a "vanishingly rare occurance". Compared to rape they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:08 PM
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You will have to explain then why feminists are denying that status to Christina Hoff Summers and why she is effectively marginalized in the feminist movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:54 PM
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I can't remember the guys name (K something) but he counted only accusations that the accuser themselves said to the police officers, on record, was false. So only the cases were the accuser effectively, offically and legally withdrew the complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:52 PM
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How exactly does that work? If somebody says that 8-50% of rape cases are false how is that not per year?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:44 PM
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No, the 8% statistic is per rape claim made to the police. Proven false. Cases that they couldn't prove were false were either discarded (lack of evidence etc.) or brought to trial. 8% is the bare minimum. The 50% statistic is largely just made up. Considering there are studies which put it at, IIRC, 40-50%, obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:40 PM
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False accusations are also per YEAR.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:32 PM
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So is the 8-50% statistic. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:24 PM
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Women should be able to decide what to do with their bodies. So should men. I don't know why they should slave for 18+ years for a kid they didn't want or won't have equal access to. Sexism in the workforce. Don't tell me you've never seen it. I'm going to go with scientific studies as opposed to your (deluded) beliefs on why women make less money than men. Hint: It's because they make different life choices. Again, sexism. You're delusional. Capitalists love their profits. Companies never discr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:15 PM
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It's a nice ass but it (still) can't produce rape statistics. The DOJ report can. Hint: it's at 6-7 cases per 1000 people. If you think that 0.6-0.7% is common then the 8-12% you mentioned in another comment is a daily occurrence in the live of most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:07 PM
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8-12% is on par with false reporting of all other crimes. That is a "vanishingly rare occurance"? What would you call 6.3 rapes per 1000 people? Virtually non-existent occurance? There are no credible methodology studies that demonstrated anywhere near 50%. Claims you. BTW the 8-12% is for cases that have been proven false. Not all false cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:05 PM
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8-50% is a vanishingly rare occurance?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 12:08 PM
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Not by any stretch of imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 12:07 PM
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I take it you aren't a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 03:12 AM
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Tell me what laws feminists (who are apparently Congress) have passed which restrict the rights of men. Go look up Duluth method and the laws it spawned and their effects on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:58 AM
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No it doesn't. European?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:57 AM
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I didn't say that either. You sure do like putting words in my mouth. Well that's what you are implying. Either feminist have no influence over the Congress and are therefore useless advocates for getting rights for women or they do have influence and you spent the last few comments being obtuse. Are feminists the only ones who can do this? Considering that "feminism is about equality", that they pretty much control discourse on gender equality and have massive lobbying power I would say they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:36 AM
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Nope, I didn't say that. I said feminism isn't responsible for the Selective Service only applying to men. The answer you're looking for is Congress. What they are responsible is not fighting harder for equality on a number of issues. Feminists didn't pressure Congress to pass the Selective Service Act of 1917... Neither did push hard enough to have it changed. As far as being lucky, I'm a man so the 19th amendment doesn't affect me whatsoever. Well the Selective Service Act of 1917 sure does.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:30 AM
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You are making an assumptions that the generalization can be applied to the same elements of groups in the same fashion. For starters Rogers wasn't even a part of TRP or MRAs as feminists would like us to believe. And second, people criticizing Islam here aren't even mentioning islamic terrorists (which would be analogs to Brevik and Rogers) but general Muslim culture that exists in Islamic countries. Also, I wasn't "protesting", merely making an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:22 AM
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It's pretty silly that men passed a law requiring men to sign up for the SS, and y'all blame feminists for it. Feminists don't pass laws, Congress does. You can hamster all you want but those are the facts. So what you are saying is that feminism should have never existed because it was/is completely useless since only Congress can pass laws. Makes total sense... Aren't you lucky that the state decided to give women the right to all on their own, without any outside pressure, because it was the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:34 AM
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Did I say that? I said they don't control Congress. If you can make congress to vote in a law that benefits your special interest you are in fact exercising control of congress. Fact Or is your argument that feminists were/are useless twats that never did anything but bitch and could never get congress to give women any rights? Feminists can vote, and so can any American citizen for that matter. Fact. So what is a vote? Vote is power. An organized vote is even more power. Fact. What kind of laws…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:30 AM
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Takes some growing out of, but just imagine me saying Eliot Rogers and Breivik are adequate representations of reactionaries. That was never the problem for people that don't like reactionaries. We had a number of people here try and link Eliot Rogers to TRP, even a mod. It's a standard tactic for feminists groups with power not liking potential threats to their rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:08 AM
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His point, which you are, at this point intentionally, ignoring is that women got the right to vote but didn't get the obligation of signing up for selective service. So somehow feminists managed to secure women's right to vote and a bunch of laws favoring them but they couldn't change one law to require women to singing up for selective service. It's pretty silly you don't see how feminists only change what is detrimental to women but leave all of the responsibilities to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 12:58 AM
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Feminists do not make up the US Congress. You are being very disingenuous. Lobbying exists, heck it's even regulated, so don't pretend like feminists are powerless. The fact is that feminists can vote for people that represent their wants and they can apply pressure to congress via formal and informal means. They can't make or amend laws, any more than MRA's. What a shitty comparison. MRAs have almost zero lobbying power. Compare that with feminists who managed to push a plethora of laws favorin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 12:54 AM
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Found the short haired women. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 12:19 PM
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He's a Mormon. He believes fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 09:52 PM
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A whole six person study? Well, colour me convinced. You didn't even read the article. It was 6 guys asking for numbers, each guy using each of the 3 cars and asking 30 girls per car. That means they approached 6 guys x 3 cars x 30 girls per car = 540 girls for the total study. Six 20-year-old, heterosexual confederates rated as physically appealing by a group of women were recruited for this experiment. Each confederate took a turn in the low, medium and high-status car condition, with 30 femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 09:38 PM
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If more men knew "what feminism really is" it would get far more opposition. Good luck with that. The moment men start organizing and talking about gender and women they are viciously attacked by feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 06:32 PM
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Keep in mind 1 in 3 women are sexually assaulted in their lifetime just in developed countries- in developing countries, the figure is much higher. IIRC that is from a UN report (or at least was mentioned in it) and was debunked.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 06:29 PM
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In my opinion, "egalitarian" is a term for pussies who don't want to identify as feminists for some reason. Or politically correct MRAs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 06:26 PM
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Females are routinely afforded more leniency in the judicial criminal court system than men. See /r/pussypass[7] . Here is a link with more academic vigor so you can use it later when people start yelling "the plural of anecdotes isn't data".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:39 PM
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Not if you aggressively select for "athleticism". Check out soviet silver fox experiment where they managed to domesticate Siberian silver foxes in less than 50 years of aggressive eugenics program.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 04:20 PM
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You sound as a resident MRA aficionado, who would you pick?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 10:09 AM
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They don't support men; they denigrate men and women. If you want to follow someone like Paul Elam into battle, then you need a good lie down. Elam isn't the only MRA out there. Please apply the same standards to feminism to see how shallow your strawman is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 09:33 AM
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That reminds me, What's the difference between a Jew and a pizza? Pizza doesn't scream when you put it in the oven Soooooooo stealing this one. So good. It even has pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 12:06 AM
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Linky to post?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 12:03 AM
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Have no idea. Try and google search the images so you can find which fashion line it is. You are either going to his a web shop or some fashion blog with details. Good hunting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:44 PM
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Oh sorry I was talking about the look in general, if I think it's sexy. But yes if you can get measurements it shouldn't be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:34 PM
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Hmmm... not sure. Really depends on the rest of the outfit and the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:17 PM
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Funnily enough, this sentence can also apply pretty well to TRP. Edgy language, trying to be non-conformist ('swallow the red pill') and trying to fit philosophy into their worldview to be seen as more deep and serious. I don't think RPers want attention for their talk. What they want is to be left alone so they can pursue their goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:02 PM
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This is a debate sub (or at least it tries to be) not TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:54 PM
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Can you provide examples to the contrary? Because, of the top of my head, I can't remember a historical counter example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:52 PM
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The gal I was responding to said that she cuts her hair to chin length. I like that kind of hairstyle. Chin length is like a medium length hair to me. Short hair to me is Clair Underwood from HoC.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:51 PM
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But only because I think it's morally correct that people are aware of his shittiness. Which is still irrelevant to his arguments. /u/setsfires made a perfect example of what you did. It's an ad hominem no matter how much you want to pretend it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:49 PM
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practically my motto. Mine's "Carpe Vaginam".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:47 PM
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I didn't do it. Yes you did. At least have some intellectual honesty and morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:42 PM
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Ah yes, the short hair on women, my dreaded nemesis. In most cases it is an attraction killer. Very, very few women can pull it of and still look hot as fuck. Or women-with-short-hair were ruined for me because of House of Cards. Still not sure about the causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:41 PM
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Still hot as fuck (assuming a BMI <25).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:37 PM
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What. One can't be black and racist? That itself is racist. Good on you, even if I don't agree with your particular flavor of racism. LOL. Of course you can be black and racists. I just though how deliciously ironic it would be if you were a black racists arguing with feminists. I'm not black myself, though. Delicious irony destroyed. The other way around dude. Probably cause those with darker pigmentation are better adapted for high intensity sunlight, so there's more of them around to hate. Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:36 PM
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goth girls are extremely sexy to me, even though I suppose they're nuts by default Goth girls always screamed to me (BPers this is just a figure of speech) "I'm so edgy, pay attention to how non-conformist and deep I am". A teenager's cry for attention that somehow survived into adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:30 PM
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I also wear long skirts, which I've been told is unfeminine Example of said fashion?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:26 PM
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Aren't you black? As racist as the day is long. So more racists during winter, less racists during summer. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:56 PM
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You made it, bruh!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 02:45 AM
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The Duluth method says hi!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 09:27 PM
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Here. Not exactly as /u/Yonderlander would make you believe. Then again this person thinks that feminism is just about equality. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 07:48 PM
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I'm still kinda unclear on your philosophy. So ,for example, you get in a new relationship. How do you convey the "rules" to her? What happens in a) sexual infidelity, b) emotional infidelity case?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:36 PM
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Now I approach relationships with the following frame: I make it clear that I really don't care if the girl I'm dating sleeps with someone else once or twice, and though I don't set out to cheat, I expect the same license from her if I do. This approach has been far more effective for me. Is this a tactic to discourage them from cheating? Some dread game? Or a shitty choice you had to make because of the women you tend to pick?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 05:29 PM
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I'm going to bite on this, even though it's ridiculous, just to show that this has nothing to do with mod bias. It was literally just a mistake on my part. It's not ridiculous. You do understand that I didn't have any back story here? From my point of view (and others) the post wasn't removed after 10+ hours but a mod was circlejerking commenting in it. Why do you think that I quoted this above: not only must judges actually be impartial but they must do everything they can to ensure that they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 11:34 PM
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He has a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 11:15 PM
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Your problem is your principle of morality appears to be ever expanding. You are also assuming that the other party is going to abide by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:12 PM
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If it's a one off thing ok-ish, I can deal with that considering the testimony. Why not post on a sub you aren't moderating? But I was talking about mods commenting with an alt on a reoccurring basis. What happens if a mod makes an alt, provokes somebody, is not removed when reported and that somebody breaks a rule and you ban them? What then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:10 PM
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Please go to 2X/Feminism and start lecturing them how they should treat men. Then post back here after they ban you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:57 PM
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That I have a problem with. Sorry bro not cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:49 PM
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I'm talking about this sub. If you are commenting with your alt in another sub that is ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:32 PM
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Moderators are chosen because they can do the work in a timely manor and keep the subs up and running smoothly. It's about smooth operation, not fairness. Because those two concepts are mutually exclusive, right? What I have problem with is the opaqueness of moderation and the ever increasing deletion of comments. Now you can blame reddit's structure for that or you could work around it to provide more transparency like other subs have done. Either way I've expressed my grievances but it's obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 06:47 PM
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I was thinking more along the line of a screenshot of your mod log history. I don't know (conclusively) who you are so you vouching for her means very little to me. Can't vouch without dignitas.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 06:36 PM
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Political theory? Governments are paid. I'm not. If you were giving me money, I'd hold myself to a higher standard. BTW, that offer's officially on the table ;) I had no idea that your ethical standards are non-existent until you get paid to have them. Oh, so we're all supposed to agree on every decision? Not gonna happen. I removed it because I thought it broke the rules. Two other mods didn't think it broke the rules. No big deal. Actually 3 mods. You had one commenting in the thread. Disagree…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 06:04 PM
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Mods and users are equal. Just as the government is equal to a citizen. You obviously never listened to a political theory class. The rules and standards are the same for all of us. You obviously need to work on applying those standards because, as cuittler pointed out, somebody approved that post twice before it was removed. Even cuittler didn't remove it, instead opting to comment in it. We maintain neutrality by using a mixed mod team and by doing our best to put on our rationality hats when …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 05:11 PM
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Assuming not a troll. Next. Bail. Run Forrest, run! Unless you want to stake your financial, emotional, sexual and mental future on a liar that isn't giving you her best. Plenty of fish in the sea.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 04:35 PM
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TRP fails to ignore the inherent nature of men. Redpillers has an entire men’s rights section that gets angry over men receiving longer prison sentences, or being defaulted as possible rapists. But aren’t by nature men more sexually aggressive, and more violent? Just from a pure statistics stand point a child is safer being next to a strange male than a strange female. If you had a young daughter would you trust a male baby sitter or a female one? Men make 93% of prisoners. So they are getting p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:02 PM
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scientific studies on the issue ignore that fact while making sure to claim that he is living the life of a carefree bachelor with increased income. Isn't that based on some bullshit study that simply ignored all the increased expenses for men after the divorce? Like not taking alimony or child support into the equation, or increased living expenses of supporting two households, dating etc. ? Let's not forget the "standard of living she/the child got accustomed to"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 12:39 PM
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Why so serious? You really need to lighten up. You are taking Internet way to serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 11:51 AM
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What made you think I wanted to invalidate your comment? That I replied to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 10:59 AM
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You wrote all of this while forgetting one little thing. You're a mod. Not a normal user. The standards aren't the same nor should they be. Unless you are going to start telling me how mods and users are equal at which point I'm going to laugh in your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 10:35 AM
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That post was approved twice by the time I commented, later on it got brought up in modmail and ended up being removed. Proof of that would be nice but either way it's in poor taste for you to circlejerk in a post that should be removed (multiple posters in said post said it themselves). [...], not only must judges actually be impartial but they must do everything they can to ensure that they are perceived as such [..] justice must not only be done but be seen to be done [...] You took the respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 01:18 AM
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Btw is he actually gay? No, he has a girlfriend. IIRC it's because he is on steroids. I have only the vaguest of guess why he is referring to steroids a gaylubeoil.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 12:43 AM
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Yes, I've had to bite my tongue more than once. Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 12:29 AM
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I was being facetious https://storify.com/lilithabs/yesallmen http://flavorwire.com/459699/yes-all-men-every-man-needs-to-understand-internalized-misogyny-and-male-violence HA! 3 BULLETPOINTS! TAKE THAT YOU LOWLY 2-BULLET-POINT PERSON!!! #winning
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 12:08 AM
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Feminism doesn't claim that men are homogeneous. #yesallmen
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 09:00 PM
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Good point. I remember BPers in here writing hundred+ sentence long posts about what "just be yourself" is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:25 PM
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A big problem with blue pillers is that they take everything so literally. Noobie RPers also tend to use it literally. I think this is an example of guys simply taking AWALT too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:23 PM
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AWALT is a counter to the very real problem of the "women are wonderful" effect. It's roots maybe as a counter to NAWALT but it provides a pretty good framework/reminder for men to be vigilante of red flags in women. I did notice that some RPers use it literally but they are just cock blocking themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:09 PM
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Thanks, this looks very interesting (haven't watched the videos yet and only skimmed the article, but will read/watch tomorrow). I knew about some of the after effect but didn't know about the source. Reminds me of a poster at /r/OneY that refers to feminism as postmodernist clap-trap, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 11:04 PM
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You're beating a dead horse now. AM I DOING IT RIGHT? That's not a reason at all. Being similar to something else doesn't make it bad in itself. You aren't giving me reasons that support your idea that feminism is useless and only exists to give stupid people jobs in academia. That's one of the many many reasons. And a damn fine one at that. I never made a claim here, you did. I'm making this easy on you by asking you to explain yourself without getting argumentative nor challenging your claims.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 10:00 PM
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I told you, I don't know much about it. Then look it up. I find it disingenuous to disregard a field based on a single intro course. I'm not "disregard a field based on a single intro course". I'm disregarding it because what is in the field and everything that surrounds it. Feminist academics grew from political struggle and as such it's no different to various Leninism and Marxism courses that were thought in socialist/communist countries. Those courses were garbage because their purpose wasn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 09:08 PM
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What do you think is useless about feminism, and why is it just so stupid people can have jobs in academia? I think that the more interesting question is: what do you think feminist as an academic field is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:42 PM
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So you didn't take them all, but you have opinions on them? What does that sound just like...? I just said what I think are classical academic fields and simply refused to say which one's I took. How you managed to misinterpret that is beyond me. No, wait it isn't, you are just being argumentative. Wow, I guess we're both guilty on that count. And since I took an intro to women's studies course and you claim that means I know nothing, when your opinions about feminism are also based on an intro …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:37 PM
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That's hilariously sad. I didn't even know about him only sleeping with only one women ever and losing his V-card at 22. I think that explains why he is so adamant in defending his sanity sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:18 PM
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Because I'm being argumentative. REALLY? I COULDN'T TELL! I don't know anything about academic feminism, because I don't mistake the intro courses for the entire field. Sitting in any classroom that encourages discussion while surrounded by freshmen is bound to be an experience that makes you dumber. So you haven't actually read anything about academic feminism and are just making an ill informed guess. Why am I not surprised. But that also happens in psychology, english, etc, but that doesn't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:13 PM
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I did, and replied to him. My reply to you was directed at you. Why ask me at all if you can deduce it from my answer? Do you want me to say 'good job' or something? The more you talk the more you show how little you know about academia. So educate me then on what exactly is awesome about academic feminism. Because when I read stuff from previous and current academic feminists it's pretty much tumblr shit repackaged into a more shinny box. And what are you calling a "classical academic field?" M…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:35 PM
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What is a "stereotypical feminist course?" How about you look at the reply thread-OP made to me? Because that was my "stereotypical feminist course" phrase referring to. It seriously sounds you guys have very little experience with the field of women's studies beyond the intro or gened courses, which suck for basically every field. Well, after an intro course in a classical academic field I didn't walk out thinking the entire field is retarded and only exist so stupid people can have academic ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:14 PM
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I'm willing to bet OP had a similar experience, and is using an intro or gen ed class as an excuse to write off an entire field. He did respond and from his description it was a stereotypical feminist course.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 10:48 PM
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Lol what? A thread basically insulting RPers was up 9+ hours and a mod was circlejerking in it instead of doing her job just yesterday.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:38 PM
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Google rape fantasies studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:34 PM
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Because...gasp... it aligns with your worldview (which I don't agree with fully).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:37 PM
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I don't think that's it, I think it's that even "normal" porn is often heavily centered around a narrative of explicit degradation/humiliation towards the woman. How is that a negative? A significant portion of the female (and male) population is into (a level of) degradation/humiliation either receiving it or giving it. By saying that's a negative you are shaming a significant portion of the population, dare I say the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 11:36 AM
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It's not an entirely unfair phenomenon, because men do tend to be more DT and they do commit most of the violent crime. Against whom? That's the real question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 08:46 PM
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In fact, I took a few gender studies classes as electives in my first degree, and I've never seen such a low bar for academic study and discussion. Keep in mind this was at a world class institution (world top 50) under well known researchers in the field. The whole discipline needs a makeover, and the standard of what constitutes valid work needs to be far more rigorous. This all leads into my next point, which is: Could you expand on this? Like stories and shit. I'm really interested because "…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 05:30 PM
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This for example, was back from a while ago. I also have a list of this kind of things (UK,France,Germany) which I will try to locate as soon as I can. That's seriously fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 04:26 PM
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What's the other 10%?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 05:16 PM
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I'm going with no (with /u/ECoast_Man 's preempt). All sexual dynamics stem from bros being fucking hornier than ladies. With that condition set everything else is just your basic economic supply and demand model. As one girl that lost some weight said on /r/AskMen, paraphrasing here, "dudes are coming from the fucking walls".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 03:28 PM
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You consider it self-righteous to avoid something you think is harmful? Yet here you are. Your avoidance skills are severely lacking. Not to mention you still have no clue what it's about. No wonder you deride women who avoid bad situations, like getting involved with jerks. Please do provide a link to were I said that in this thread. Or is this another example of your intellectual laziness were you ascribe opinions you don't like to people that disagree with you and call you out?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 10:03 PM
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That CDC study on sexual violence, even with all the flaws, still has some interesting hints about how men and women perceive sexual violence that happened to them. For example, the rates of rape and forced made-to-penetrate are the same year over year, yet lifetime stats are vastly different. Men's I think are something like 3-4 times less than women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 10:01 PM
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It's not laziness. I'm intentionally avoiding learning more about the ideology than necessary. I think it's toxic, and I'm treating it as such. That's all. So intellectual laziness then with a dash of self-righteousness. Now where have I heard that before?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 09:52 PM
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Assuming their language is a form of accepting their ideas, which immediately places me at a disadvantage. Ergo, its bullshit. What's bullshit is people coming in here, like you, being lazy as fuck to learn what they are even debating and then asking everyone else to adopt to their intellectual laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:04 PM
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This whole "sexual strategy is amoral" idea TRP has is, in my humble opinion, completely fucking retarded. My interpretation: I think it's brilliant if you take into account the results it's trying to produce: Minimally self-censored talk within the confines of the subject at hand. It's not a perfect tool of course and lots of RPers miss it but that's because once you start talking about actions everything become very iffy and personal in terms of what is moral and what is amoral. I think that T…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 03:14 PM
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Figuring out the perfect angle with which to snipe your neighbors from your roof is not. What if it's a question in a math quiz? Moral or immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 03:07 PM
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They do, but the conversation wasn't about divorced/split couples and the issues surrounding them. Irrelevant. http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2011/06/15/a-tale-of-two-fathers/ Supports that fathers are more likely to be "alienated" from their children
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 03:05 PM
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70 to 80% You got a source for that? http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insights/news/2013/u-s--women-control-the-purse-strings.html http://www.catalyst.org/knowledge/buying-power You obviously have no idea as to what you're talking about and are just spewing agenda driven garbage. I'm sorry reality doesn't exactly align with your opinion. Do you even understand how market forces drive wages? Or how capitalism relies on at least 5% unemployment in order to function and how raising minimum wages has bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 03:03 PM
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Feminism meant a woman could have her own bank account to put her wage in, rather than having to give it to her father or husband, not that that she was moved from baking cookies to working in an office. Nobody is saying they didn't. They just didn't compete in the for-profit sector as much or for the same positions as men. Feminism meant a woman could have her own bank account to put her wage in, rather than having to give it to her father or husband, not that that she was moved from baking coo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 02:36 PM
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Errrr... supply and demand is a thing in the labour market. If you double the workforce but reduce the number of available jobs what do you think will happen? Also just because you imply that we should have more regulation doesn't mean that wages will rise. Even if we mandate a higher minimal wage for example it will just be reflected in the price of goods.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 01:25 PM
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So people don't have children out of wedlock today?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 01:21 PM
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And YOU are missing my point. I am simply pointing out how difficult, impractical, frightening, and dangerous it is for the average citizen to try to actively reform the government. Policy works way differently over there than it does here, and it is RIFE with corruption. You want government reform? You need to fight literal cartel lobbyists backed up by actual cartel people. That's AFTER they shut down protests with riot gear and water tanks. I'm sure that the American Revolutionaries were scar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 01:34 AM
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You are all over the place. How is this even relevant to illegal immigrants? What does CIA and Guantanamo have to do with Mexicans wanting a better life and willing to commit a felony as their first act of entering their future country? The fact is that only a minority of illegal immigrants enter the US because of real oppression and danger to their lives. The fact is the majority do it to make a better living for themselves and their families. The fact is that this shits on legal immigrants tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 01:08 AM
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Fuck, do you really think these people have the patience to wait 10 years for their visas to go through or whatever While they wait they could reform their own country. You know be the change you want to see in the world, civil activism and all that jazz. Then they could go to the US for a nice holiday. They would deserve it after changing their country. their friends and families are being tortured and murdered BY the law So your stance is that all or majority of them illegally entering the US …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 12:50 AM
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Linky please.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 12:01 AM
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Edit: You know what? You're one to talk about empathy, for preferring the government set up a minefield so that desperate and frightened and wounded Mexicans would die before they ever see a shred of human decency. Those hypothetical Mexicans are breaking the law by crossing the border illegally. Planting hypothetical deterrent such as hypothetical mines is a sound strategy especially if you hypothetically label them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 11:49 PM
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Actually, yes. At this point, it's willful ignorance. I can't empathize with willful ignorance. So you do but you don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 11:45 PM
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Empathy isn't about acting upon emotions though. It's feeling the emotions from others around you. I have lots of empathy and easily feel the moid/feelings from people around me. Doesn't mean I am a blubbering mess when someone near me is sad though. Which really makes this whole debate silly. You even have a self confessed sociopath up here and even he says he has some form of empathy. RPers are just saying they don't get bogged down by it just like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 11:15 PM
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bper is manipulative And getting upvotes. In-group meet out-group.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 11:06 PM
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How is it a strawman to ask you to clarify your position? By implying that I don't think the person doing the shit is in fact partially responsible. You said that it was the fault of the state, so I am curious if you believe the partner who does take the cards out is at fault for their illegal actions. Mea culpa. I just said it because I think that the state has the best array of tools to fix this problem and is the most responsible for making this situations exist. Think about it the person get…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 11:03 PM
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Oh hey, that's a weird coincidence. I was just over on /r/thebluepill[1] and saw this comment[2] which uses almost the same term but the poster is totally serious: What do you wager is the statistical probability that anyone of them actually met somebody who subscribes to RedPillTM?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 10:56 PM
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So it's not the fault of the partner who takes them out? Strawmaaaaannn. It is only the fault of the state? The person taking out the credit card obviously doesn't give a shit because the state makes it easy to get the credit card in another's name and enforcement of law isn't sufficient. (Ignoring the fact that it is, in fact, illegal to apply for credit with another's information.) Which obviously doesn't work good enough. And really if your partner gets a credit card in your name what is the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 10:49 PM
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One of the common types of financial abuse that I see is a partner taking out credit cards/loans, etc. in the other partner's name, not paying them, and ruining that partner's credit. Which makes it incredibly hard to leave, obviously. That is the fault of the state for allowing such laws to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 10:15 PM
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In /r/FeMRADebates somebody mentioned that even the feminist that made that model today says it wasn't based on factual data and is wrong. #justanotherdayinfeminism
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 09:55 PM
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Could you please advise me then? I'm going to be completely honest and say that I really don't have experience with situations such as yours. I'm just approaching this from a logical, information gathering perspective so you can come to an informed choice The way I see it right now: after I ask her if she had some bad experience in the past, any possible outcome is negative: either she
/r/askTRP24/12/14 01:35 PM
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Why I said it? Bro here is what I think. You asked a perfectly valid question. What I think you fucked up is just hand waving it away with "of course, of course...". There could be something there and you need to know what you are getting yourself into (besides her pussy). TRP doesn't really mention this a lot but you need to get some girls comfortable and feeling safe. Especially when they are in your home. I would suggest you invite her to your place again for some home prepped food and get he…
/r/askTRP24/12/14 09:45 AM
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Even I, in the depths of my "Nice Guy" phase, was never as bitter or angry as TRP is. And when did you stop being a "Nice Guy"? When was your awakening?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 12:59 AM
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but I almost never see any RPers actually engaging the texts of contemporary or relevant gender and queer theorists in order to posit something that might run contrary to the current discourse on gender. Who are those gender and queer theorists that RPers should read?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 12:50 AM
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OP this didn't trip any alarms for you? I told her she's acting like she had some bad experience in the past and cannot trust men (and she replied "well... yes... I won't retell you though... to which I replied "of course, of course...") What is the context around this? Her tone, body language etc.
/r/askTRP24/12/14 12:39 AM
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Oh I was aiming for hetero landwhales. Totally forgot that a subtype of gay guys is called a bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 12:13 AM
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I wasn't being serious. 2-5 inches is pretty noticeable. I am 5'11 I now how you tagged as giant lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 11:01 PM
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Isn't that like the same? Fat bears and shit strolling around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:42 PM
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He made a reply to you that I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 08:44 PM
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No. The court order clearly states that it's yours only on weekends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 08:20 PM
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I can't make a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 08:05 PM
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See, girls always bitch about something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 08:00 PM
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the male gender is exactly as one dimensional as I was warned. TIL ama line.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 07:59 PM
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Solid advice for your average girl. Horrible, horrible advice for boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 07:54 PM
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That's pretty much what you said, though. That's not my quote. /u/exit_sandman said that. What you really mean is that, women don't absolutely NEED men to do those things, but the fact that they do, is convenient for women. Which I guess I agree with. You guess you agree with? Either you agree or don't agree. Surely you of all people know what you think. I was actually thinking more about labor jobs, construction, garbage pickup like you mentioned, skilled trades, etc. I understand why jobs that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 07:52 PM
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Instead of making this a bullet point by bullet point monstrosity let me just point you to what /u/cxj and /u/vornnash said in their comments. Attraction has a biological component and people still need to function in their day to day lives. There is no point in waiting for "The definite scientific study on fucking chick and getting into relationships". Ultimately all that matter is "does it work for in my life". Your claims about RPers not reading studies correct isn't a new one however BPers a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 07:46 PM
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And he is saying that this is because women have more (non-romantic) people taking care of their needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 07:29 PM
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I think he did. He just doesn't agree with the underlying premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 07:04 PM
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Why are you saying this to me? Go talk to the guy above about that. Besides this I think he made a pretty good argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 07:00 PM
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You implied that women NEED men around to do those jobs. Nope. You assumed that. It would be silly to assume that. It's not like women are completely unable to do those jobs. They are just not competitive with men. Same for women doing "manly jobs". I imagine it would be hard to join a profession that seems like just a boy's club. I hope you are talking about TE in STEM fields not fundamental infrastructural jobs that sustain our population. Women just don't like doing dirty jobs because they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 06:59 PM
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No, what happens when men aren't around to do the "men's work". Women take their place and manage to do it just fine. No, only when they are forced by circumstances do they take those essential but dirty jobs. I'm not seeing a lot of them picking up my garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 06:13 PM
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This is my problem with TRP. The claim that science supports their beliefs when it doesn't. You are posting in a thread about "an academic paper that confirms lots of RP ideas". I guess academic papers aren't science. Maybe it's true that I'm attracted to a strong immune system and not a sharp mind. (I'm attracted to a sharp mind actually) Not what I said or implied at all. You might be attracted to a sharp mind but there is evidence to suggest you would be more attracted to a sharp mind and a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 06:09 PM
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I'm not putting any words in your mouth. I'm now asking you a question after I said we just had a misunderstanding. A question you apparently have a great deal of problem answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:10 PM
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Right. And that's not relevant anymore. If they slack off after their glory days they'll get early arthritis, heart disease, diabetes, cancer, etc. I explained this in my post. 9 out of 10 kids aren't dying before the age of 5 anymore. So what genetic advantage does this guy have? A genetic advantage would be intelligence. Technological development is orders of magnitude faster than biological evolution. You are trying to be rational about those preferences that are partially biological in natur…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:08 PM
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What genetic superiority does this guy have? You are trying to be rational about physical attraction. The studies answer is also in the OP/quotes: "Masculinized males have higher genetic quality due to their ability to resist diseases and other adverse conditions"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:46 PM
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That's not a strawman. That's a misunderstanding. To me when you talk about men's rights you are talking about MRAs not specific rights outside of organized communities. I also don't know why you simply refuse to answer my question: Do you think that men have problems that need to be addressed? I even said that you can ignore the context of MRAs aka just answer about (lowercase) men's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:43 PM
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Feel free to google the research. Wouldn't it make more sense that you google it? You are making the claims and have obviously read the research before so you know what to look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:38 PM
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Alaska?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:34 PM
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Research shows the opposite. Men do in fact crave a whole lot. There needs simply aren't met. And they tend to hyper focus their needs on sex. Whoosh. You didn't even understand his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:33 PM
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That's not what I said was it? I'm talking about MRAs as a self-identifying group, not men's rights (lowercase) and issues. And I was supposed to know that how exactly? I'm not aware of any other group that talks about men's rights in a systemic fashion. You could also answer my question. Do you think that men have problems that need to be addressed? Irrelevant of MRM. Steelpuppy I've noticed you tend to use strawmen, in the most bald and blatent way, near constantly on PPD. If this isnt deliber…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:29 PM
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Oh comeon, everyone here must be able to admit that the MRAs are just a bunch of very very bitter (sometimes understandably) women hating cry babies. So you don't think that men have problems that need to be addressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 03:55 PM
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Half of a baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 03:48 PM
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/and any society where it is mandatory at birth . . . well that would be quite interesting. Make it retroactive for both parents to be recognized as legal guardians. Grab popcorn. Watch the mayhem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 02:22 PM
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A stiffy with no desire is just a stiffy. No, I mean you need to have a stimulus that would get you stiffy in the first place. Somebody who isn't sexually aroused on a mental level wouldn't pop a boner even with Viagra. Viagra is like the fuel for the engine but you still need the spark to start it. This is from memory so I might be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 01:59 PM
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It's opposite Viagra. IIRC Viagra still requires a libido to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 01:13 PM
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I don't think anyone but the biggest muppets ever denied the Red Pill "ideas". Then there must be a bunch of muppets around here because even the most basic concepts were vigorously denied. BPers were still using their "it's all nurture" arguments a year ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 01:00 PM
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You forgot the to mention the socially approved truth serum, alcohol. Non-judgmental attitude + alcohol = "I feel like I can tell you everything about me. I don't even know why I'm telling you the most intimate details of my life. You must be a really good listener."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:57 PM
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No problem :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:53 PM
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I find that people tend to resort to personal attacks when they can't muster a decent argument. Hey we agree on something! Yey. Go look up "women's land army" and see what happens when men can't do the "traditionally male" jobs. You mean what happens when extraordinary circumstances happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:51 PM
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Actually no! Hatred is systemic of not having enough and some other traits that are not physiologically in your brain. Though envy is part of the lower brain, the higher brain has kind traits ( a theory that as we evolved empathy and kindness were a necessity in some cases to survive as a group.) How does this refute what he said? His point stands that all of this shit you claim is a mark of a "defective human" was brought about via evolution. Unless you are going to claim divine intervention.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:38 PM
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A good number of economic models, for instance, weren't build upon rigorous studies but rather theories based on existing knowledge and deduction + induction. Sexual marketplace anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:19 PM
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I'm not claiming anything, I'm making a personal observation. So by the standards you yourself set we can safely ignore your top level comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:18 PM
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RP are depressed insecure folk clinging to a pieced together "self - improvement" mantra (that at its core seeks to tear others down with MRA crybabyism). We found the /r/againstmensrights poster. No gender debate on reddit may happen without one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:10 PM
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I see that you already started making a strawman. I guess you were confused by all those "(usually male)" words.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 11:42 AM
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Deflecting when confronted with uncomfortable topics. Another sign of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 09:49 PM
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TRP loves sluts. Just not in their LTRs or marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 09:45 PM
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The male equivalent of a girl that sleeps around is a guy that sleeps around...... derp. That's why there is public stud shaming. Oh wait. There isn't. Edit: Needs moar downvotes. Sounds very insecure. This is like the nth time I'm seeing you bitch about downvotes. I know you aren't big on gender roles but perhaps a little stoic manliness wouldn't hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 09:44 PM
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You know what's the common denominator between those cultures? They are either extinct or they never did anything of any significance, basically being local anomalies. Contrast that with various empires that birthed the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 09:40 PM
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5'11" is fine bro, even acording to /fit/. Plus bitches can't math to save their life. They'll never know if you say you are 6'1".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 09:29 PM
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Well at least he isn't saying to kill 88000+ people like you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:48 PM
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Oh shit totally forgot about that one. A classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:42 PM
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Sith have way cooler powers. Force lightning FTW!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:02 PM
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Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 05:57 PM
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The difference isn't huge. So based on that do you support modern day affirmative action and other "benevolent sexism" benefits?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 05:53 PM
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So you think women were disadvantaged in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 05:45 PM
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And even then, some women are probably better for manual labor than some men. A statistical rounding error. Can't beat natural gear. As of today, the first isn't nearly as big of a risk, and the second is something that should be based on merit, not biology (aka, if the individual woman is better at manual labor than the individual man, she should get the job). You still didn't answer me are you against affirmative action and other "benevolent sexism" benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 05:42 PM
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Because pregnancy was a major risk and because women were not nearly as suited for manual labor. So biology. Gotcha! I did answer the question. Society needed gender roles then and doesn't need them now. I also never said men and women are the same, but some women are significantly better at things than men are, and vice versa, so it is stupid to lock people into a role based on gender, rather than on merit. So you must be against affirmative action and other "benevolent sexism" benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 05:38 PM
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Then fucking tell me where it is. You provided me with a PDF, a paywalled study and some article. In which of those is the 10-15% stat?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 09:36 AM
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And what did the guy he was responding to have? "plenty of nice, 'bp' men are getting laid, have happy relationships and do get married" No stats, just a belief. He sure as hell isn't laid with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:22 AM
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Look at the second study and the analysis You mean the one behind a paywall?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:20 AM
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You're in the lucky 33%.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 11:45 PM
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... You literally inserted 'alpha' into an article that said nothing about that. Wow. Just wow. Most dishonest thing I've seen in this sub so far. Reason enough for me to stop debating you. That's a pretty lame excuse to stop debating him simply because he provided decent counter argument for your " plenty of nice, 'bp' men are getting laid, have happy relationships and do get married" argument, with a source no less. God forbid he labels "best sex of their life" as "getting fucked by an alpha".…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 11:42 PM
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Actually I call it splitting hairs because formally the whole gay/bi thing is subverted by the designation of "Men who have sex with men". How so? Being gay means a person is sexually attracted to the same sex not "men have sex with men". Straight men could be having sex with other men and they would still be straight men. Similarly the label tends to be more controversial to people than the activity. I largely don't care whether you call yourself a sub or the only true alpha otherkin poodle, my…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 11:28 PM
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I just did have you read the studies? I skimmed the first one. It reports that 1.8% of the sexually active population engaged in BSDM in the last year. Where are you getting the 10-15%? i claim 1/3 men in kink are sub Let me quote the start of the thread cxj said: A handful of exceptional deviants do not disprove general rules about the mechanics of heterosexual attraction. Of course, I have nothing against them. You said: you mean about 1/3 An unbiased reader would deduct from the context you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 11:25 PM
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This however, turns into splitting hairs like at what point you have to call yourself "gay" or "bisexual". You call it splitting hairs because otherwise your argument of labeling non-BSDM identifying people doms or subs is invalid. And if around 1/3 of the women actually do want to be sexually dominated, hey, You mean 3/4 (of BSDM community) if /u/wazzup987 's comment is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 09:35 PM
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What you need to provide is some studies (that we can read not just the abstract) which show the frequency of those fantasies. Just because men might have a submission fantasy doesn't mean they want to make it a regular part of their sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 09:33 PM
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I'll just point out that from your first link BSDM is "huge" if you count 1.8% of sexually active population a "huge" percentage. So your claim of 1/3 of (all) men being subs is untrue. Or at least you didn't provide evidence to support that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 09:30 PM
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Link to the study please.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 01:29 PM
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Well if you value familial loyalty over "doing the right thing" that would mean that Aerobus is a more moral person than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 06:12 PM
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Awww man... I always miss all the good drama llama posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 02:39 PM
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Whoops. My bad. I was referring to the article on Stepford students not Stanford. http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9376232/free-speech-is-so-last-century-todays-students-want-the-right-to-be-comfortable/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 05:05 PM
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There was a study that looked at cases when a parent abandons the child and when the parent dies. IIRC there wasn't much problem with a parent dying but with a parent abandoning the kid.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 03:29 PM
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Some RPer posted in /r/sociology[1] talking about how he wanted to get in the field and do kind of RP studies, one of the responses was dripping with condescension remarking how she had never seen a conservative in her field. Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 01:04 PM
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Bro, Stanford Stepford students. That's all that needs to be said about those "bastions of free thinking (as long as you think like us)".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 12:46 PM
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Until the manosphere can offer more than thinly veiled misogyny, it has no place in academia... there's no question about that. This is anti-scientific and anti-knowledge stance if I ever saw one. If somebody has a workable theory they should be able to test it. Just because you put your own moral value judgments a priori on the theory doesn't mean it's not worth investigating. As long as the research is solid it doesn't matter if it's results violate your sensibilities. Otherwise we would still…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 12:42 PM
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This is nothing new. It's also doesn't affect only social sciences but natural ones as well. Soviets for example banned genetic research for the simple facts that it was linked with Nazis. Today you have bans in the US on researching sexual differences. There was an interview with a researcher on one of the big networks about how she needs to obfuscate her research proposals if she wants to get funding for researching sexual differences simply because of ideological bullshit. (In the video she w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 12:37 PM
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Then the mods or admins did. Below this post and above this post only taiboworks's comment show. Oh mods what his happening here?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 08:10 PM
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that's the thing i chose generalization from the start just like the red pill does. I am automatically immune to anything that doesn't fit the average. So if you are automatically immune why do people even bother to dispute TRP? So you are right there are some girls who aren't damaged who will fall for PUA tricks but a lot less of them then girls who aren't damaged and won't fall for the tricks because they just see a PUA or asshole. The problem is that you haven't provided any evidence for that…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 08:09 PM
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This comment made my day. Thanks dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 04:05 PM
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YRight, but TRP uses it to mean A) - as in "Alpha fux". That's your opinion on how they mean it and I told you, which you conveniently and dishonestly ignored, that A) isn't the only way they use it since I saw it used both ways. And that has been comprehensively statistically disproven No, it wasn't. The guy up there actually showed you that it's actually closer to the 80/20 rule. But do continue to ignore that. http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2ph9jg/whats_your_thought_on_alph…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 03:25 PM
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You are again constructing a scenario around "tricks" only working on a type of girl while ignoring any possibility that those "tricks" work on multiple types of girls. In your example it's still about emotionally damaged women because you refuse to break away from your narrative of only damaged women falling for PUA "tricks".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 03:17 PM
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use the same trick over and over again are tricking the same type of ladies. I wasn't clear enough. I'm referring to this part. You don't think that the same trick could work on different ladies? Like a slutty party girl and a Catholic school college girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 10:30 PM
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That's kinda obvious. Otherwise we wouldn't be having any of those fancy, ever expanding human rights today.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 10:27 PM
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Duh. Follows from what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 10:25 PM
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2-3 years younger on the whole but then you take the 1/3 of 35 year old men with <30 women and the bullet point that men marrying older women is rare and you have a pretty big chunk of older men snagging younger chicks. That article is bullshit. Buuuuuulllllshiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. That word is so awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 10:23 PM
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Hey women have feminists and LGBTs have feminists and LGBT advocates. What more do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 10:21 PM
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I would think that a wage gap based on "women's choices" is ultimately, not in the best interest of society. So what? Plenty of things aren't in the best interest of society but we still allow it. For one thing, it would mean that smart women will be less likely to have children because it is too great of a sacrifice on their career. Even when they do have children they aren't having lots of children, only 1 or 2 because they can devote more resources to that/those child/ren. Feel free to correc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 10:19 PM
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Yup. They took the classical male gender role and simply carved out of it all the social responsibility bits and other shit they didn't like. Streamlined the fuck out of it (and continue to do so). Bravo gentlemen. Bravo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:24 PM
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Socially progressive for individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:13 PM
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Yesterday's liberal is tomorrow's conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:07 PM
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Doesn't matter what I believe. What matters is how TRP uses it. They use it as an incentive. "Strive to be in the top 20% and you will have way better chance to be with women".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:56 PM
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So what if there is a raw wage gap? It's obvious that the vast majority of it is because of women's choices not because of discrimination as feminist like to yell. Just because we don't know all of the factors that would explain those last 5-8% doesn't mean it's injustice as you claimed elsewhere in the thread. I get it. You bought the 23% stat as being another thing oppressing women and I showed you that it's (mostly) bullshit and that rest of it is simply unexplained so now you need to save fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:45 PM
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The dude that wasn't producing test for 4 months is even more fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:36 PM
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You didn't even bother to understand what he was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:34 PM
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only 60% of those ages 18-29 agree with this assessment. only 36% of young adults agree. Let's see what those unmarried 18-29 year old have to say once they marry and actually have to deal with problems in the modern marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:33 PM
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You are being dense. The point of that phrase isn't to take it literally and analyze it to a ridiculous degree so that you can say it's not true. The point is to show men that there is a skew in the sexual market and that sex isn't a 1:1 ratio. Is redpill saying the betabux guys living with their 3/10 who puts out nightly are the lucky ones and the poor alphas who bang a new 10/10 every weekend are not? I think that AF/BB portion of their theory comes into play here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:29 PM
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5-8% (as in the study you linked) is a massive gap. What adjective then would you use to describe the false 23% wage gap? From the report: It is not possible to produce a reliable quantitative estimate of the aggregate portion of the raw gender wage gap for which the explanatory factors that have been identified account. Nevertheless, it can confidently be concluded that, collectively, those factors account for a major portion and, possibly, almost all of the raw gender wage gap. So that 5-8% is…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:20 PM
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Again this is NOT the thing that the red pill 80/20 claim is about. ITs not about having the most individual instances of sexual intercourse, its about having the most individual sexual PARTNERS. I've seen it explained as both those things, the amount of sex and the amount of individual sex partners. What I haven't seen is people saying it's completely 100% true and should be taken at face value as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:07 PM
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Edit: There was a blog post about a transexual who went from being a woman to being a man and she/he had testosterone shots. It was a mindfuck for him because he finally understood what being a man was like, constantly thinking about sex and not benig able to turn it off. Some NPR program. I think it was This American Life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:03 PM
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I'm genuinely curious - have there been any large-scale, methodically rigerous studies which show that, correcting for all the relevant factors, there is no wage gap anymore? Yes and No, because they don't know all the relevant factors but once they start controlling for those that are obvious that 23% gap starts falling to 3-7% and they think that with other factors that are harder to quantify it will account for almost all of the raw wage gap. Interesting tidbit. The difference in hours that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:58 PM
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Then it should be easy for TRP to come up with a list then? If they know themselves like you state. Why? They already know what they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:41 PM
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If someone is resisting your attempts to have sex with them, it's either because they don't want to have sex with you now, or they don't want to have sex with you at all. So why take the guy home then at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:04 PM
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The second they don't fall into the AWALT category it means she won't fall for his tricks and he nexts her... rejection is incredibly high for guys and those who shrug it off and move on and use the same trick over and over again are tricking the same type of ladies. Aren't you falling in the same trap as PUAs when you assume that only only certain type of ladies falls for those "tricks"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:00 PM
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Well if you plan fucking men I guess it would be relevant. Otherwise why would you apply AMALT to yourself since you know yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 06:55 PM
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it's literally incorrect. Every. Single. Woman. On. Earth would need to display "AWALT" behaviors. That's why it's not literal. It's a simple framework meant to counter the society wide "women are wonderful effect".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 06:54 PM
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Everyone mentions fertility but I think that having kids is an exhausting endeavor in itself so even if older couples start having kids they themselves aren't so young anymore. Imagine having a teenager in your 50s or 60s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 06:06 PM
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How about phrased this way-- 2/3 of successful 35 year old men are still mostly single. Way to be disingenuous. What you can say is that we don't know if 2/3 of successful 35 year old men are single. The 1/3 point was about men living or being married to women. It says nothing about their relationship status. Her weird use of anecdotes instead of sourced statistics should tell you that this is an opinion piece. Page 167, Figure 13.8[1] should demonstrate that it's simple fact there's an age disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 12:49 PM
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Only that she's an icon for feminism. Which just shows how fucked up feminism is. "We are about gender equality" but we only focus on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 12:38 PM
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Those aren't REAL feminists red pillers. Feminism Red pill is about gender equality sexual strategy. Those are just some radical feminists nutjobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 10:53 PM
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WHAT IS FEMINISM Everything that makes feminists look good and paragons of empathy and moral virtue and caters to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 10:49 PM
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As do yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 10:42 PM
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I'll have to find it, but I remember one comment where an EC said since his wife once approved of anal, he was always allowed anal even if she said no and pretty much literally ass-raped her. That guy came here and explained the full context. Context was something about his wife being more adventurous when drunk and up for anal at those times. EDIT: I see that /u/Denswend corrected you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 10:31 PM
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Ok lets role with that. So let's see what this amazing feminists thinks of equality: Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat. Women often have to flee from the only homes they have ever known. Women are often the refugees from conflict and sometimes, more frequently in today’s warfare, victims. Women are often left with the responsibility, alone, of raising the children. So much gender equality. Because being alive is wors…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 10:16 PM
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well known crank. Because we all live in the land down under. She at least sourced her article. You just attacked her character. In my eyes, Bettina Arndt 1point wombatinaburrow 0 points
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 10:13 PM
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Rent or buy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 07:12 PM
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Tell that to my father who plays billiard in a private male space each week. Is it a formal establishment? No women allowed in the rules? Or are we talking about somebodies basement here? There are still plenty of private male spaces out there. Which ones have disappeared exactly? Well we had the whole barber fiasco recently. Gentleman's clubs are getting shutdown the moment they are brought to publics eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 07:06 PM
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You could comment on the article I linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 07:02 PM
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Yes. And because they are not anonymous, and held accountable for their views, they can be criticized. That's a shitty argument. Simply because somebody is anonymous doesn't mean that you can't criticize them. The call for lack of anonymity is really about putting pressure on those people to conform. We are free to point to them and say, that's wrong, that's not feminism. That's not what we signed on for. Please do that. Find a prominent feminist whose opinions you find disgusting (just for kick…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 07:00 PM
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I was talking more about the wider sisterhood, not the feminist version. Pandering to women in general as opposed to feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:13 PM
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In men's balls. It's called testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:11 PM
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Blogs, youtube videos, comment sections, forums, reddit- that's the dregs of the internet. Perhaps "the dregs" is the wrong word. What I mean is, it's comprised of an anonymous user base. Where anyone can post. And all the pitfalls that come with it. Sorry to burst your bubble but plenty of prominent (radical feminist) don't post anonymously. Completely ignore Tumblr level of feminism but there are plenty of "respected" public feminists that spout some stupid hateful shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 05:58 PM
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There are redpill blogs that reflect where I am at emotionally, but they don't get much traction on the /r/theredpill. So how and why exactly did you start reading the wider manosphere?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 05:56 PM
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Which is hilarious since private male spaces have been thoroughly destroyed, so pips have no other venue to talk IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 05:52 PM
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No, she's not writing academic papers, and these days she seems more focused on being a statesman rather than a figurehead for women, but she was a very important figure in the movement. She is a politician first and foremost. Pandering to women is her playing to her audience. At the level she's at I doubt she considers herself part of the sisterhood. You don't get political points for detailing the suffering of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 05:50 PM
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The Republican Party can be judged by both the ideas it espouses, and it's leaders. At the same time, you can say that a few of it's leaders are not representative of the GOP. Bad example simply because GOP has a formalized structure so you know who is what. RP and feminism don't (as a whole). Ditto feminism. So what is the de facto and de jure organization for feminism that is GOP's equivalent? Tumblr does not fit this criteria for feminism. Your criteria that I find internally inconsistent. Re…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 05:45 PM
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Although the line has been moving steadily towards TRP's reality. For instance, when PPD started, I remember having the debate on whether or not women are actually the gatekeepers of sex. They would actually deny that sexual access is easier for women. I've also noticed that phenomenon. Then again this sub is filled with BP members of fringe denominations, sexual orientations and political groups. IIRC /u/powerkick for example was heavily downvoted in /r/oney in a thread about male spaces. OneY …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 05:27 PM
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We're not debating the merits of feminism. The topic is why TRP is judged according to the lowest common denominator (it is the lowest common denominator) and feminism is not. We don't judge feminism by the lowest common denominator any more than we judge democrats, republicans and libertarians by the lowest common denominator. So what you are saying is that we should judge TRP by their theory, not their "leaders" but then you say this: Simply because the lowest common denominators are leading a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 05:19 PM
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Simply because the lowest common denominators are leading and shaping TRP. They are not leading and shaping feminism. Considering where those feminist leaders lead modern day feminism I wouldn't be so quick to tout them as some paragon of virtue and excellence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 04:54 PM
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Oh look an ad hominem. Do continue making stellar arguments. Almost one in three degree-educated 35-year-old men marries or lives with women aged 30 or under, according to income, housing and marriage surveys by the Bureau of Statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 02:15 PM
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TL;DR: The Wall is a revenge fantasy for bitter people. You are from Australia, right? Well (strong, independent) women disagree with you. http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 11:39 AM
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You realize that simply saying 'No' isn't winning, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 11:25 AM
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People that try to change preferences of other people just sound sooooo insecure. researchers studying Yali tribe in Papua found out that only 60% of people preferred a relationship where the man is taller, compared to about 95% in western cultures. Only 60%? Thank god for such a small number. We know that the standards of beauty change throughout time. Fucking irrelevant. What matters is what is considered attractive now. No amount of social engineering is going to change my preferences on what…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 09:08 PM
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On the internet, I see mixed reactions. Depends where you look. In predominantly male circles it's frowned upon, in predominantly female circles it's encouraged or made not to be a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 08:43 PM
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I feel like more men than you think would think "maybe," but say no out of societal preservation. Can you quantify that like you did with the women in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 08:37 PM
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If you ask the "straight" ones how many would "spend the night" with rihanna if given the chance. 7/8 of them would say yes. So when people say they are straight I tend not to believe them because most of the times they aren't as straight as they claim. So how many guy do you think would "spend the night" with [insert a high status man here] if given the chance? Women are more fluid with their sexuality than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 12:16 PM
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Redhead?! U cray cray. That explains so much ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 12:43 AM
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interest from both parties when they are sober Thank god people like you aren't writing laws. Fingers crosses it remains that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 11:39 PM
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His delivery is excellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 10:21 PM
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Nope. The person needs to be so drunk that they are "unable to understand even the nature and consequences of the agreement". So being drunk doesn't automatically mean people can't be bound by contract or give consent. The burden of proof is on the party making the claim that they shouldn't be bound by a contract they made while intoxicated not the other contractor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 09:32 PM
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The fact that you believe this story shows how easily tricked you are by your own biases. Hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 08:49 PM
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Since I've never eaten a girl out Here bro, this might help: http://www.xvideos.com/video531677/milf_nina_hartley_teaches_how_to_eat_pussy
/r/askTRP11/12/14 09:22 PM
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How so? basically you won't qualify for free legal aid unless you're extremely poor, there's proof of abuse, disability or etc., and most people will go bankrupt from paying legal fees if they can afford to...it's a loser's game for everyone financially, By providing evidence of how expensive the system is for people, rich or poor. Combine that with the perception of the justice system being against men, especially in family law, and you have a completely rational explanation on why so few men f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 06:57 PM
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Considering how costly it is to fight this battles I don't doubt that it would result in fathers giving away custody to children. So what you are saying is that you provided me with more evidence to support my claim. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 05:16 PM
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Tender years doctrine went out of favor decades ago, I'm sure that the attitudes of the judges trained in it also went out of favor decades ago. I already posted many links showing parents agree on their own most of the time for mom to be primary caregiver. Considering how costly it is to fight this battles I don't doubt that it would result in fathers giving away custody to children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 04:06 PM
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Here is on custody bias: www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/p60-246.pdf about 18.3 percent of custodial parents were fathers. That would mean that 81.7% are mothers. Please explain to me how that isn't wiggling it's eyebrows suggestively to there being a bias in the system. Especially when you take into account the Tender Years doctrine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:30 PM
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Well aren't you a pessimist. I was looking at difference between happy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 12:21 AM
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Ok so where is that 5% difference? Because I'm not seeing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 11:31 PM
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no, I'm looking at the one about unhappiness since that was the claim. The chart you linked has one that is directly dealing with happiness and next to it the one that is dealing with depression (being unhappy). It's bottom left. So from where did that 5% difference come?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 11:17 PM
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Chechen warlords Those two words sound so cool together.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 11:10 PM
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And they do, the chart he linked confirms there to be a 5% difference between the rates of unhappiness in women that were virgins before marriage and women with 21+ partners. Are we looking at the same picture? Women with 0 sex partners before marriage report being "very happy" in 55.88% of the cases while women with 21+ partners before marriage report being "very happy" in 31.95% of the cases. How is that a 5% difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 10:57 PM
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The absurd result is that geeks, queers and dykes are dominating the discussion about how men and women should interact. I have to say that I'm also getting that impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 09:43 PM
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Wait what? My ideal scenario is that the withdrawal of the accusation is of the accusers own free will and that the officers didn't falsify the withdrawal. How the fuck is that a "made up and statistically improbable"? Why don't you explain what exactly are you talking about since I have a feeling that we are talking about two different scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 08:34 PM
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just a measure of how many police officers ticked "false report" in their crime log. Which they, in ideal scenario, did by having the accuser say they made a false report (even after they were warned that it's a misdemeanor and they could be charged). Otherwise the officers falsified statements made by the victim so they could mark it as false. Now the accusers could have been threatened but that would be hard to prove. Either way we are never going to get a completely accurate picture but that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 05:25 PM
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Neither can you apparently. Unless you are going to say that officers en mass falsified witness statements. Let's not forget that the 2% number is proven in this very thread as a unsubstantiated claim pushed by feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 11:03 AM
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Meh, I guess I've been desensitized to that word since it's so overused and misused (thanks feminism!) so my standards on its usage are higher. Self-improvement (I.e lifting, getting a hobby, dressing better) does not necessitate not being mad at someone else. Sure, but I've seen plenty of people in TRP saying to dudes to move over the anger stage into something more productive or use that anger to further themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 12:13 AM
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Why not? Why would they direct anger at themselves when it's easier to be angry at someone else? Why would they preach self improvement so much when it's easier to be angry at someone else? I agree NARPALT. Small percentage. A few are here. It's good to know. The vast majority of RPs disdain women. I'm sure they also have a plethora of psychological issues, but the disdain for women is obvious. And all over the place. It defines the atmosphere of the sub. ARPALT. Disagree. I think it's the other…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 10:43 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 08:23 PM
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Do you even understand what was said? The only reports that where classified as false where the ones where the accuser said it didn't happen after they were informed they could be charged with filling a false police report. This isn't some cop saying this is or isn't rape because of their experience or bias. This is accusers themselves saying it didn't happen, after they were advised of possible misdemeanor charges for filling a false police report. That's pretty objectively accurate to classify…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 08:12 PM
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To feel good about myself, to garner a better public image, to advance a business goal by using activists, to make a better future for my kids etc. See, transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 07:25 PM
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Do't forget sand and oil.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 07:03 PM
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No, they don't direct the anger at themselves. Then why all the focus on improving oneself? Sounds like the perfect funnel for all of that anger. They project the anger at women. They disdain and resent women. Your interpretation. What they resent and disdain is themselves for failing. NARPALT applies. That's why it's entitlement, and not just frustration that the rest of the non-TRP world experiences. You are naive if you think that non-TRP world only experiences frustration and no anger from t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 07:01 PM
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Definitely subscribing to /r/fitness Even better is /r/xxfitness for women. I got dealt a shitty genetic hand it seems, even when I was really thin the only body fat I had was stored in my stomach. Then trim that fat until you are happy with it and slowly start adding body weight while lifting. If you get just enough excess calories most of it will got to your muscles instead of fat "so bigger ass while keeping your tummy small". Oh and I forgot. Do cardio. Running, swimming, rowing whatever. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 06:54 PM
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I wouldnt be surprised if this were true. Somebody mentioned that perhaps with the empowerment of women some of those women started to use their power to ignore consent. Sounds plausible to me. We also have no direct knowledge of how many of the male "forced penetration" victims (lets call it rape, I think of it as rape), how many of the male rape victims were raped by men (as in, a man forced them to penetrate him). There is some evidence to show gender parity there. http://www.reddit.com/r/FeM…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 06:48 PM
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Would squatting be the best way to improve a female body? Fullbody training. Either fullbody training 2-3 times a week or some sort of body split different days of the week (classic brosplit or upper lower split). If you just squat you are going to have muscle imbalances. Check out /r/fitness faq. They have some good beginner programs. Just pick one and stick to it. My leg muscles develop really quickly and look great from squats, but I always have annoying tummy fat :/ For that you have to diet…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 06:44 PM
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But we're talking about TRP. And women not having sex with them. And how much they can't stand women because of that. They are there to get women having sex with them. What I see most of the time is simply what they see as stupidity of modern dating. Their anger comes from entitlement. Or from being played (by themselves, their friend, society etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 06:26 PM
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Its very telling that you pick the parts you "like" about the data and ignore the other parts. I didn't ignore them. I just think they are relevant when talking about how much are men getting raped vs women. Especially considering that the lifetime stat is more unreliable (but people sure like to point it out). You didn't link to the CDC study so I googled it, the AMR thread is on the first page of results. Lots of people on reddit wont take you seriously if you've ever posted in /r/theredpill[1…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 06:23 PM
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I can say that there is a strong presence of anger - this shows that they are coming from a sense of entitlement. How does that show they are coming from a sense of entitlement? You can't be angry without being entitled?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 06:04 PM
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Evidence of that? Percentage of posters still stuck in that phase? You know something we can talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:54 PM
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Considering how much you are hangup on it one would conclude that is all there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:53 PM
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Because you are asking people for events that happened in the entirety of their past vs recent <12 month period. Human memory is subject to change and rationalizations processes the farther you are from the event. So if every year the rape rate is the same between men and women you have to ask yourself why is that rate not leading to the same lifetime victimization numbers between men and women. One explanation is that either we had a significant increase of rape against men (by women) in recent…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:52 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2oizaw/a_summation_of_trp_and_my_opinions_on_it_bp_xpost/cmopa5y Yeah I really didn't post anyyyyyy links to that report. Right. I posted the CDC report page reference (iirc its 18 or 19) that shows it is 4:1 rapes to made-to-penetrate Please deliver a screenshot of said page with arrows pointing at the data you are citing because I'm seeing lifetime 4:1 and 12-month 1:1 ratios at pages 18 and 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:46 PM
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Only if you look at the lifetime stats which I don't consider relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:44 PM
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And you are deluding yourself if you see only anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:42 PM
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Why cite them as a source if you're going to then immediately disregard them when they say something you disagree with? Either they're credible or they aren't. The interpretation and presentation don't have to be credible only the data. What I like about their data is that even with the bias of researchers involved it shows that the victimization of both men and women are happening at the same rate. The fact that no one on this sub trusts each other should go without saying really. Bringing it u…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:41 PM
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And why do so few TRPers ever seem to recover from this and lose the anger? Evidence of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:37 PM
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That's if you only take the lifetime stats by completely ignoring the 12-month stats. 12-month stats are identical: 1.1%. Otherwise a sane, non-biased person would ask themselves if the 12-month rates are equal year over year then how can we have such disparity between lifetime and past 12-months numbers. Oh and the survey considers completed and attempted rape the same, while made to penetrate is only the completed act as far as I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:34 PM
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That's if you only take the lifetime stats by completely ignoring the 12-month stats. 12-month stats are identical: 1.1%. Otherwise a sane, non-biased person would ask themselves if the 12-month rates are equal year over year then how can we have such disparity between lifetime and past 12-months numbers. Oh and the survey considers completed and attempted rape the same, while made to penetrate is only the completed act as far as I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:34 PM
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IIRC Banker/lawyer ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:21 PM
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At the end of the day, they're still hurt from being rejected. But they're angry because women had the nerve to refuse them something they thought they should have. Thought they were entitled to. Disagree. A lot of them are angry because at the same time they were given shitty dating advice (mostly by women).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:26 PM
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This again? Because a lot of them had their whole worldview shattered recently. Not everyone simply goes "Oh so that is how it works? Better sort myself out and not feel like a fool for thinking the opposite for years". I think that a lot of them are really angry with themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:20 PM
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Apparently this is her and her crazy pinterest account: http://gotnews.com/breaking-heres-jackie-coakley-rape-obsessed-pinterest-account-uvahoax/ Looks like your typical nutjob SJW that simply wants attention and fantasy fulfillment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:16 PM
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Something like AWALT is often interpreted to mean that literally every woman is "like that". The way I see it's intended meaning is "tread cautiously, because you can never know for sure which women are and are not like that". Lol perfect timing: http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2ojqti/losing_my_attraction_to_women/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:09 PM
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I don't trust CDC when showcasing their studies on sexual violence for the simple fact of Mary Koss and her lackeys in the CDC e.g. rape vs made-to-penetrate. I've also not seen their interpretation for the disparity in lifetime vs yearly victimization. Or why the oh so encompassing survey didn't look at the perpetrators. I also don't trust you, a 4 day old account who has AMR links at hand. http://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates/comments/2fnijx/national_intimate_partner_and_sexual_violence/ EDIT:…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 01:58 PM
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Having a bias doesen't inherently make the information false unless you can point out how the bias is distorting the information. How about the fact that the rates are the same year over year but lifetime numbers are so disparate. You would think that they would be the same unless men are simply retcon-ing their experiences since nobody will listen. They asked the CDC directly. The CDCs response is contained. Unless you think they're outright lying in which case email them yourself I guess? Cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 01:24 PM
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Lol wonderful source. A sub with so much agenda and idiocy it defies reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 12:32 PM
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...but then when it comes to a widely accepted premise like "men are generally more sexually aggressive than women- women are thus at higher risk for rape" suddenly you huff and puff about it? Considering that CDC's own survey has the same number of men raped made to penetrate as women raped kinda paints a different picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 01:50 AM
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What I was getting at is that if you impair someone's ability to consent, it's rape. Yeah no shit. Getting someone drunk so they will have sex with you is doing just that. Only with the above caveat. Otherwise it could be a simple icebreaker, a confidence booster.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 01:48 AM
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However, some have criticized these statistics for using definitions of rape that they consider to be overly broad, specifically for counting sex under the influence of alcohol as rape Once you start including made-to-penetrate (magically doesn't count as rape) the number are pretty much even between men raping women and women raping men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 01:42 AM
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If a man gets a woman drunk (no matter how she consumes alcohol), with the intent to have sex with her (and is using inebriation to further his goal), then yes, it's still rape. No, it's not. Stop spreading this bullshit. Only if the persons ability to consent was jeopardized will it be rape. Having sex with a drunk girl isn't automatically rape no matter how many times you try and claim it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 01:38 AM
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You'll only get bigger if you eat more then you use up. You won't get bigger if you lift weights and don't eat over your daily caloric expenditure. You are simply going to get firmer and everything is going to look better because you have muscle underneath the fat (and muscles are denser than fat). You can lift and cut and once you lose "extra fat" simply start bulking and adding new muscle. You sound like one of those girls that thinks lifting weights is going to make you into a little Arnoldet…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 01:36 AM
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Your smiley is the wrong way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 01:16 AM
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No, I'm normal. Well ok. Then when you leg heals up do some light squats and (sumo) deadlifts 2-3 a week and marvel at increased self-confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 01:13 AM
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haven't weighed myself in 2 years. Are you fat? Well, I have to wear a brace and stay off my legs...I dunno if benching will mes me up or not. It shouldn't but ask your doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 12:19 AM
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My butt is already big. Not the point. The point is the firmness from the extra muscle underneath her ass fat. And I have no problem with gains. How tall are you and how much do you weight? I am going to get back in the gym when my leg heals though. Unless you are in a cast you can do your arms, shoulders and back without using your legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 11:04 PM
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Doesn't count. You bitched about this "boys don't like me" situation like 2 months ago and I told you to get your body in shape. You are in puberty, maximize those gains now. Just to show you what squatting and deadlifting can do for you ass and legs (like 1/2 what guys look at in a girl): http://i.imgur.com/CpcvQno.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:37 PM
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So how much do you squat and deadlift?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:24 PM
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extant SOFT power of women (which feminists always ignore) I'm always amazed how little is talked about this, even though sociologists noticed the existence of different kinds of power long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 09:37 PM
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Isn't reddit huge? I mean they are getting mentioned in mainstream press. At what point do we simply say that a large portion of the male population is like that and it's a problem that needs addressing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 04:29 PM
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My guess as well but wanted to be sure. Then again IIRC you did say you think universal suffrage was a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 03:03 PM
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Just this week I was told women shouldn't have been allowed to vote in this sub. By who? Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 02:00 PM
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However, a common trend is attacking someone when their girlfriend cheats on them and saying things like "It's a safer bet to say she banged 50 dudes and she gets off having them think she is losing her virginity." Funny how you ignored all the other comments in there: Ya, she rejected him alright. She rejected him from being the beta provider. Guess who won that prize? She sounds like a real catch. I'm sure she'll be totally open and honest about everything going forward. I'm mildly surprised. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 01:54 PM
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And we are teaching young men about manhood in a healthy way. Who is we?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 10:13 PM
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The Nash Grier part was hilarious to me since the guy(s) in the video were saying what they want in a girl. Cue 1000s of girl fans that didn't fit those criteria having their dreams shattered (like they had a chance to actually be with this guy).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 09:56 PM
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Just shows your mindset which I wanted to point out for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 09:51 PM
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Says the person who until recently had a flair that said something like "opposite of a Social justice warrior is an antisocial injustice coward".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 05:38 PM
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Examples of good vs bad tattoos?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 05:04 PM
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On the other hand NPR is horrible when talking about men's issues and masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 04:58 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/“Women_are_wonderful”_effect
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 04:52 PM
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The point is that one side isn't better than the other. MRA and feminism mirror each other in a lot of ways. You have people on both sides putting unfair blame on the other side and you have reasonable people just trying to get everyone to accept that there's a problem. Somewhere in between those two positions is a reasonable argument where we can begin solving problems. What are you talking about? MRAs mirror feminism? MRAs don't even have a sexist ideology underpinning their every action (unle…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 03:25 PM
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weird passive aggressive question mark salad Maybe s/he is on a word diet?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 01:50 PM
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That's the thing about University: Thoughts are accepted. Hahahaha. You're serious? So how do you explain this: http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9376232/free-speech-is-so-last-century-todays-students-want-the-right-to-be-comfortable/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 01:46 PM
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I hope the frat can sue. I've read that people were throwing bricks at their house.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 09:06 PM
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The problem is that UVA does have a problem with sweeping sexual assault under the rug. If this story continues to develop as is, it will be even easier to sweep shit under the rug.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 09:03 PM
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Correlates almost perfectly with getting older. Older people == more conservative since they are more invested as you nicely observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 08:59 PM
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My point is that it is an extreme view Bro, it's codified, official policy in US (via primary aggressor laws) that fucks over thousands of men. It's institutionalized sexism lobbied by feminists. It's as close to war on men as you are going to get in current society without women literally taking up arms and warring men. /u/homo_homini_lupus simply stated ALL women are this way and got offended when I asked for facts. BPers really need to stop with this ALL women shit if somebody makes a general…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 08:57 PM
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Figures. Wouldn't be the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 08:45 PM
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By feminist standards yes. I'm against such use. Feminists have taken a completely normal, in 99% of cases, innocuous activity that humans have been doing for eons and re-branded it as a vile activity which only men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 08:45 PM
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agree with your point, id have started by saying that women objectify ripped men all the time. There are three girls talking outside my office this very moment about how perfect Chris hemsworth's body is right now. I don't think that even counts as objectification (and no I'm not buying feminist's definition of that word). Just appreciation of aesthetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 07:23 PM
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Who was the coward that deleted their comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 07:20 PM
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So now that you have been given a fact about what /u/homo_homini_lupus said is still her "opinions not based on truth"? Or does she perhaps have an informed opinion based on facts that you simply don't like?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 07:20 PM
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Even the original brain maiden that cooked it up is apparently denouncing it. More info: http://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates/comments/2o6ivp/the_duluth_model/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 07:12 PM
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Hello Duluth model of dealing with domestic violence, the brain child of feminists!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 05:36 PM
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You missed my point but I that is on me since I wasn't exactly clear enough. The entire problem is this fake gender equality bullshit. For some fucked up reason there is a widespread belief that men and women need to be 50/50 for there to be gender equality. That is bullshit. Men are naturally dominating upper and lower parts of society. Fighting against only the upper level domination is hypocritical of the whole gender equality movement. The fact that things such as affirmative action, gender …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 02:16 PM
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You never heard about affirmative action, quotas, women only scholarships etc. ? I even saw a pic of women-only computer science classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 01:39 PM
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Women outnumber men in a few STEM fields already, btw. No doubt considering the amount of sexism being applied by the governments around the world to get girls in to colleges.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 01:33 PM
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I was referring to the fact that not many spheres of life will have a 51/49 split. I doubt that women are going to become interested in STEM fields to be on par with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 01:21 PM
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In the dystopian future you describe, it'll be 51/49 everywhere. Only by force.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 10:31 PM
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I mean compare the types of things happening today vs the types of things people did to advocate for their rights and fair treatment in the past. People doing acting belligerantly in a bunch of parks talking shit about rich people calling themselves #Occupy and getting arrested after a week seems extreme. At the end of the day it accomplished absolutely nothing. Go back 200 years and when rich people were acting like assclowns people decided it was a good idea to round them all up and chop their…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 10:28 PM
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Oh so you are only approving of some future hypothetical violence against RPers? Good to know, since I already thought you were a new Elliot Rodger in the making.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 11:07 PM
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Even landwhales?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 10:14 PM
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Oh sorry. So just mass murder of a particular group. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 10:13 PM
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I don't know, take it up with the MRAs. So you think that people men, who maintain basic civilizational infrastructure, dying isn't a big deal. Gotcha. Because said fields require physical strength. I didn't know sweeping streets or driving a truck requires massive amounts of strength. Oh and if those fields require physical strength why are women even allowed in the military? You realize that men got a huge head start in STEM right? And they didn't get a huge head start in higher education? STE…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 10:11 PM
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Oh god, not this shit again. 90% of workplace deaths are men because men tend to take up jobs with awful working conditions. So why isn't there a massive campaign in society to fix those working condition? Why do primarily men work those jobs? Why isn't there a gender quota and state subsidies to get more women into those jobs? Men have dominated STEM fields for most of history because up until recently, women were prevented from entering said fields. What's "until recently"? Women (with a great…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 09:31 PM
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Didn't that post basically say that TRP works?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 09:26 PM
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What does that have to do with you expanding the meaning of misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 09:23 PM
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Look at that, calls for genocide. With 3(!!!) upvotes (at least).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 08:46 PM
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I just looked at the definition of misogyny and all I'm getting is: hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women. via dictionary.com a hatred of women via merriam-webster.com Your definition sounds like some feminist redefining of words so it can be used in an ever expanding manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 08:43 PM
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Most likely gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 08:47 PM
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Considering there are like 5000 pages of grand jury testimony including an autopsy report that shits all over some witness statements I'm going with the cop being more trustworthy than SJWs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 08:45 PM
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That's always been a very prevalent criticism of feminism that many feminists have even acknowledged about the movement. And how did they fix it? They didn't. Feminism is still a movement by white middle and upper class women for white middle and upper class women. They've just been "talking" for the past 50 years about lack of non-whites in upper echelons of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 08:40 PM
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In stark contrast, advice I've frequently heard on tBp is to try your best to change "toxic" thoughts/behaviours of your friends. If you can't, then you must abandon them because their toxic mindset will somehow affect you. Sounds like SRS. There was a girl on SRS that drove off everyone in her life (or was she dumped by her fiance; can't remember exactly) because they didn't behave like people in SRS. Shit was hilarious. Bpers regularly express confusion on tbp over how conservatives, liberals,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 12:03 AM
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The net result is negative from your perspective since you can see how the meat is made. From their perspective they are making changes and getting results which makes them happy. If the cycle works it's self-reinforcing. Plus I don't think that dudes that are actually making those changes take every single thing on TRP and do it. They probably picked what they liked and went with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 10:13 PM
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Again, your opinion. If they are being happier they are self-improving.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 09:31 PM
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Not, a person with a higher SMV, but a better person. Empathy, selflessness, being accommodating, good works, charity, being accepting of others, treating others as you would yourself - these are things to strive for when you are bettering yourself. This is self-improvement. Notice that you are only talking about giving more of yourself to others. That is your definition of self-improvement. Everyone doesn't share your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 09:19 PM
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What usually happened is they would try to change my dressing habits. Trying to get you out of your clothes isn't "changing your dressing habits" ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 09:01 PM
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Possibly, but that's a "slippery slope" argument based on hypotheticals that we don't have examples of, where as countries that have rape-by-deception laws (such as my own) don't seem to have a particular problem with "You said you were 170 lbs but actually you were 173lbs? RAAAAPE!" Are we even discussing the same article? The entire bill started because the dude lied about his job, and defrauded the naive chick for $5000 for which he has been found guilty. Canada's sexual assault laws try to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 06:14 PM
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I'm saying use those "I'm sex positive" standards and apply them to the dude in question. I'm still amazed that you could predict if somebody is going to be bad at sex simply by posting over Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 06:08 PM
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whereas we RP lot see vulnerability as the height of folly for a man. I'd say that a smart RP dude is simply going to use his vulnerabilities as another card in his seduction repertoire.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 06:04 PM
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You're worried you won't be able to commit fraud to have sex anymore, are you? Nope. It's the implied broadening of the definition. Simple white lies could lead to charges of rape. Up here in Canada, things like birth control sabotage are sexual assault. As it should be, I can't, for example, decide to intentionally stop taking my pill without telling my partner because his sexual consent is conditional to what I told him regarding contraception being true. IIRC one of the judges was talking abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 05:26 PM
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I'm swinging to your side. Sex positive, radical feminism here I come.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 05:22 PM
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Do you think he feels ashamed? Do you think he sincerely puts value into me considering him seriously as a sexual partner? Do you think specific women are ashamed when they are called sluts? Going by your statements the answer is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 05:21 PM
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30 second rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 05:18 PM
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I generally judge the ability of a person to a arouse me based on personality and demeanour. I've tested this theory, and found my snap judgements have never been wrong- there has never been a hail mary style last minute arousal bump. Either I wanna boink a guy until the bed breaks or I don't. You don't even know the guy in question. All you know is his nickname here and some comments he made. Hilarious justifications. On the other hand it sounds like your main criticism is that I didn't play al…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 01:38 PM
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So when reasonable people say that rape is an act of violence (and should stay that) why is there always a person like you talking about incapacitation as if it's not already a part of the definition of rape? BTW blackout drunk doesn't mean there can't be consent or that the person is incapacitated but that the person can't form long term memories because of drinking too much, too fast. Those people just appear drunk but are still acting of their own free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 01:20 PM
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Actually no, my response was literal - have no personal moral barrier to promiscuity, but my refusal to risk bad sex means the incidental elimination of a large number of potential partners. I really do maintain that policy of which I spoke. And how would you know if the sex you didn't have would be bad? All of this happening on the internet where you don't know the person or their previous partners and consequently have no objective or reasonable subjective criteria to judge. Thus continuing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 01:16 PM
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In practice this is only going to be used in extreme cases. You have a case in this very thread were it was abused against a man to falsely convict him of rape by fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 01:10 PM
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FYI there has been a law like this on the books in the UK for about 50 years and there havent been any abuses of it. The handfull of times it has been relevant have been situations where someone, due to complex circumstances, is able to pretend to be someone else with whom the woman was previously / is intimate. Source please.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 01:07 PM
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Having somebody incapacitated and then committing a felony on them is usually considered an act of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 01:07 PM
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He wasn't literal. He was making a joke. You then decided to be rude about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 01:03 PM
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And you're not?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 12:43 PM
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That reminds me, you still haven't explained to me why you keep insulting and mocking the people you talk to in your posts. How is he insulting and mocking people? He seems perfectly reasonable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 11:58 AM
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Sounds like feminist's informed consent bullshit. With this law they would criminalize women lying about their partner counts and past sexual history. And transsexauls lying about their sex. I wonder how long it will be before feminists realize that and start lobbying to have them excluded from the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 11:57 AM
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You'd end up with a society with even more sexual imbalance, wherein only the top most attractive males end up having sex. This results in frustrated and dangerous men, which is precisely why you don't see many societies operating on these harem models. The whole sex-positive feminism sounds like unrestricted capitalism. We know how that shit works.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 08:43 PM
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Traditional gender-role conservatives will die off as a movement. Considering they are out-breeding liberals I kinda doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 08:37 PM
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Beautiful quote. Really nails the problem with today's SJW and their ilk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 12:35 AM
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This is more of a new age religion than an actual field of study. And yet I can't stop hearing about academic feminism as some sort of science.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 06:07 PM
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Imgur please. Everything else is just sooooooooo slowwwwww. Pro-tip: Replacing .gif with .gifv on Imgur links will load Imgur's new video gif which loads super fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 06:52 PM
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I'm a radical feminist. T_T That's ok. Nobody's perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 06:48 PM
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The feminist part at the end was so on point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 04:56 PM
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Woosh again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 12:49 PM
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Michael Kimmel was on it. So yes, another goodmenproject.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 07:46 PM
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Oh, people approach me all the time. Woosh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 01:03 PM
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The thing is, though, we split costs down the middle. Equal rent, equal groceries, etc. so it's not like some sort of "kept man" situation. How non-egalitarian of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 11:19 AM
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I quoted what I was talking about. Your implication that feminism could never affect in any quantity any of those thing is what I object to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 09:39 PM
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You're trying to prove that feminism caused rising healthcare costs and social security. Nope. That's you making a strawman. Feminism didn't double the workforce. You don't have twice as many job applicants for every job due to feminism that's just silly. Figure of speech. You are awfully literal. So no. Feminism did not have an effect on any of those things, certainly not when taking into account the events which caused rising healthcare, social security, stagnating wages, decline of the Americ…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 09:21 PM
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Nope. You're wrong about that too. Women have always worked. Sorry. They didn't compete in huge numbers with men over the same job. That's a difference. Obamacare? Are you really citing Obamacare? You mean that bill that passed in 2012 that we don't yet understand the effects of? Let me explain. you're trying to make a claim that feminism (around since early 20th century) is responsible for rising healthcare costs and social security. Trends we've seen long before Obama finished his bachelors. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 08:40 PM
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Women didn't double the workforce overnight. You Might want to look up "women in the workforce" to see just how off base you are. I was being hyperbolic. It obviously wasn't over night. It was over a period of 20-30 years during harsh economic times of 70s and 80s. How many working class families could afford to have an able bodied member not bring home an income? You just don't have any sense of history. Well after expanding the labor pool and increasing consumption only the richest families. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:32 PM
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rising healthcare costs, rising social security costs, stagnant wages AFAIK more money is spent on women's health, they live longer so again more money needed for social security and the stagnant wages part ties in to women pretty much doubling the workforce overnight. It's not all crazy talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:11 PM
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WTF are you talking about? Pretty much all of my examples deal with single men, DUH.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:07 PM
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What is the difference? Either you are sexually promiscuous or people think you are based on your actions or word-of-mouth. Or should we all be voyeurs simply to be extra sure the person in question is actually having sex with all those people?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 06:09 PM
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Because women entered the workforce just before America had a super awesome latter half of the 20th century. What half? The 70s with stagflation and oil shortage or the 80s with a recession? Anything regarding female employment is not the fundamental economic principle we ignored that's fucking us over now. You must be right. There is no market change when you nearly double the workforce. Wages keep increasing like before. Oh wait. They don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 06:03 PM
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Crime as a whole. Not rape specifically. Really? I'm pretty sure that even rape is on the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 05:54 PM
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Wrong dude bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 01:09 PM
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Linky?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 12:59 PM
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There really haven't been any restraints placed on a single male's sexual life like there has been on a single women's. Men have been allowed to be sex-crazed individuals with no societal repercussions or judgement and I think that's the root of it all. No such thing as shotgun marriages. Or no sex outside of marriage in various religions. Or arranged marriages. Men were as sexually controlled as women except it's harder to pin a child to a man as opposed to a women when "happy" accidents happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 12:49 PM
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Seriously? Just read the rest of the comments here. Plenty of answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 12:44 PM
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I'm pretty sure he is bisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 12:30 PM
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A person, usually a women, considered sexually promiscuous. Urban dictionary has a pretty positive and funny description: Someone who provides a very needed service for the community and sleeps with everyone, even the guy that has no shot at getting laid and everyone knows it. She will give him a sympathy fuck either because someone asked her to or she just has to fuck everyone she knows. These are great people, and without them sex crimes would definitly increase. Thank you slut, where ever you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 12:28 PM
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Sex is not "work", or a service one provides for another in the context of two people who desire each other and want to have sex. It's a mutual activity that people engage in for it's own sake. In a consensual sexual encounter between two people who desire each other, nobody is losing anything. If you're paying, you're losing money, the escort isn't losing anything. How those that work with the usual "my X never makes me cum during sex" situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 12:01 PM
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They should use the term properly no matter the age. Mind blowing, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 11:54 AM
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So because middle schoolers misused the term slut it's meaningless. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 11:12 AM
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You're 100% right. Gay dudes are the most promiscuous motherfuckers and my understanding is that lesbian couples have lower libidos than even straight couples (I obviously can not confirm or deny that). It's easier for me to hook up with a gay dude than a straight chick, even though there's like 10 times the amount of the latter. It's not gay dudes. It's simply dudes. Dudes are horny mofos. But even though it's ridiculously easy for gay guys to get laid, no one ever seriously calls them sluts. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 11:11 AM
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How those that work? No oppression on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 04:28 PM
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Romeo and Juliet laws cover that and AFAIK they are spreading.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 04:16 PM
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OP here are some good stories (read the comments) to support your claim: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2l04xf/deep_rifts_in_the_atheist_community_an_allegory/ Good shit in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 04:15 PM
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Those catcallers do it because its a mark of territorialism and they see all women walking through said area they occupy as persons to receive attention. Guys driving by shouting "WOOOOOOOOOOO!" at me at 11'oclock at night are not expecting me to break into a sprint after their departing cars crying "wait, wait... I love you!" All guys that catcall are simply marking their turf from invading women? Really? Right then, we'll put that on our AllWomenEverywhere meeting agenda. Might I suggest you b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 04:12 PM
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3,770/12 = $314 per month According to Wikipedia $94,100 {5228 avg x 18yrs} is the total basic cost of raising a child from birth in 2013 to age 18. 5,228/12 = $435 per month So what you are really saying is that average mom only pays 27% of the average costs of raising an average child while still getting at least 50% of the custody in 76.2% of the cases. So much fairness. So the average child support payment in the US doesn't even cover the minimum cost of raising a child, how are "lazy ass wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 04:00 PM
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LOL, women complaining about catcalling = muh healthy male sexuality™ being oppressed. Last I checked it's not illegal to ask girls out. Heck, it's not even illegal to yell gross shit at them on the street. MRA/TRP guys are just pissed that women dare say I DON'T LIKE THAT, DON'T DO IT. Those catcallers do it because it's low effort and it works on some women no matter how small a chance. Catcall a 100 chicks daily for a week you are going to score at least one. If women want to really fix this …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 03:15 PM
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In the same video though, she made a decent point about how one of NOW's messages was misread or misinterpreted. The only NOW part I remember is when Karen mentioned how NOW opposes shared custody with claims how it would be always used even in cases of abuse. Of course the moment Karen started talking about how no proposal about shared custody out there has those provisions, Wolf first said she doesn't believe that NOW would do that. Being in the 21st century somebody from the audience started …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 02:57 PM
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Nah, you don't get out of this by saying it's a "belief". This is still a debate sub, people come here to have their beliefs debated/challenged. If thats not what he wants he could've stayed in TRP echo chamber, but he came to PPD so yeah we're gonna ask him to back up his claims or concede the point. Ok let's do this. http://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/p60-246.pdf The majority of custodial parents (81.7 percent) were mothers, and 18.3 percent were fathers, proportions that were not statistical…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 08:46 AM
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You'll need to give me more. My exposure to Wolf was when she was in a "debate" with Karen S-something (the MRA darling) on a libertarian conference. She to me was a typical disingenuous feminist. One moment talking about how feminist doesn't demonize men and in the next sentence talking about some 3rd world organization which was basically HeforShe with a lower budget. Or accusing KarenS for being a rape apologist simply because she dared to imply rape is hard to prove so we aren't seeing as ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 08:34 AM
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There are still battles to be fought (for example access to abortion in some parts of the US, OK. sexism in toys, What? Explain. better movies, shows, and games for women, I'm pretty sure my first comment on this account was in regard to exactly this bullshit. If women want better movies for them they need to vote with their money. Business isn't going to cater to them if there is no market there. workplace issues in terms of wages/promotions, Like what? The pay gap is mostly bullshit. What litt…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 08:27 AM
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the only thing every Feminist can agree on Patriarchy bro. Don't forget the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 08:16 AM
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Even feminists I consider relatively moderate and reasonable like Wolf hate her. Wolf is moderate? If she is a moderate feminist then moderate feminist are sexists and misandrist of what I've seen of Wolf.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 08:16 AM
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Oh I finally get it. I was going from a completely different direction here. I think that the two model as presented in the article are shallow, generally useless bullshit. Way too agency denial of women in the first one and way to much bullshit "enthusiastic consent" in the second scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 04:13 PM
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You'd probably find it boring because you're not the intended audience (and that's understandable), but you should at least do your homework beyond believing random anti-feminist ranting via third hand retellings. Apparently it's for lesbians (according to other feminists). Nah, in precise description I'm a sex positive radical feminist- I believe that the structures inherently support sexism and will necessarily have to alter to remove it from the system. How do you reconcile your support of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 03:13 PM
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...The study OP linked to is about gender difference in strength of sex drive. So I'll need you to clarify as to why you don't find what I wrote relevant to that. Because the only thing that matters here is the difference in sex drives. Why that is isn't as important when talking about supply and demand simply that it exists and it skews the market. Heck even your quote says that T is important. Especially in women since, and correct me if I'm wrong, even the high T women are still barely on par…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 03:11 PM
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for attempting to argue in good faith Good faith doesn't revolve around blaming only one party in question and accusing him of being a shitty dad (for which you have no evidence sans your bias).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 03:02 PM
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"The Vagina Monologues" The one which have child rape? Those monologues? Lovely feminism right there. Do you even feminist, bro? What do you think we're going on about? :P I apparently do since you appear to be a stereotypical gender feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 02:18 PM
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Perhaps that sexually frustrated women should do something about it. Like TRP advocates for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 01:57 PM
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You are seriously taking the model from the article?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 01:55 PM
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Feminists are particularly focused on their own orgasms on their terms. This is not feminism's problem. Then neither is it TRP's for their orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 01:42 PM
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Victim blamerrrrrrrr
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 01:41 PM
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OP that second link is oh my fucking god. That women is a cray cray feminist. "Look at my stereotypically constructed feminist narrative in the commodity model and then look at my glorious utopia full of 'enthusiastic consent'". And of course she's fat. The more I scroll google images the fatter she gets. So many angled pictures of her to make her look thinner. But you can't full google lady. LOL what an accurate stereotype of a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 01:40 PM
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Even if sex is readily available, guys still pursue relationships. The fundamental flaw with this theory of different priorities is that it assumes that without the brokering reward of sexual access men will not be coaxed into commitment. They might be but I doubt they will be happy if the partner refuses to be intimate with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 01:34 PM
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TRP constantly reduces relationships down to sex. Because they want more of it. What's that saying, sex is 10% of a relationship when you are getting it but 90% when not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 01:22 PM
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OP's primary study heavily relied on questionnaires. I reply to this down below, including a study demonstrating how women's answers to questions about sexual desire/sex life can change based on various conditions. What exactly does this have to do with men wanting more sex and women less? Even your study says and I quote: Sexual desire is typically higher in men than in women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 01:20 PM
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She's responsible for her actions, and as described in the comment it's difficult to tell what exactly those are. He is responsible for his actions, which, as described, are seemingly bad. You still haven't pointed out how exactly are his actions bad. He not wanting to engage his wife when she is disrespecting him isn't bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 01:15 PM
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I take the tactic that wanting either sex or intimacy is not inherently bad, its just that it also can lead to lopsided relationships where entitlement is applied. We were talking about sex and intimacy being linked in the men's case to a higher degree than in women's. So it isn't just that we don't desire it, it's that many men simply can't offer a flat out orgasm for orgasm exchange. Women should communicate better their needs. That's on them. However, going back to "why do feminists..." as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 01:14 PM
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No, I mean her father, and it doesn't look like that to me. It doesn't look like a single adult in that house is modeling actual healthy enforcement of personal boundaries. Amazing that you still excuse the mother's behavior. Then you concede that perhaps mommy isn't all that blameless. Her father is controlling and disrespectful/dismissive towards her mother, and her her mother sticks around with a person who treats her like that, in addition to possibly adding to overt hostility in the environ…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 12:54 PM
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Irony is for the self-aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 12:33 PM
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It's not sex but at that point its not a matter of medical differences in raw desire. For example a lot if RP identified guys will admit that regular access to a vagina is not enough either. So whatever you are brokering for is not just sexual release due to biological differences in desire levels. Agreed. The problem is that for a lot of men sex (in relationships) is really about intimacy, an expression of love. I think that this discussion is really missing the point when it only talks about s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 12:17 PM
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Well I was afraid you would take it personally (even though it wasn't meant to be taken personally). Just apply the question to an average couple and then answer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 12:07 PM
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most modern relationships tolerate outlets like porn facilitated self gratification That's not sex. Otherwise I've been in a sexual relationship for years and nobody told me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 10:50 AM
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It's almost as if I had a sex drive of my own... Nobody is denying you that. The point is that most men have higher sex drives than women. If you have a mismatch of supply and demand how exactly are you giving him what he wants since he's demands outstrip the offered supply (assuming average disparity of sex drives in your relationship)?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 10:49 AM
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Your second paragraph is kinda the point RPers made here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 10:45 AM
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Bro you are red pill as fuck to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 10:39 AM
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He's making the claim that women are being favored in court. I'd like to see proof of such statements. This is a debate sub, we aren't required to take people at their word especially when they present no evidence. He's making a widely held belief. If his wrong correct him. Oh please, if all you're interested in is making emotional accusations without proof kindly get back up on your high horse and ride out of here. If you're actually interested in whether or not women are being favored in court…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 10:39 AM
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I don't have to have clairvoyant insight into her future to state the well documented fact that people who grow up observing a parent behave in controlling or abusive ways towards the other one, tend to grow up in the belief that that's just what relationships look like, and tend to have a harder time selecting non-abusive partners, or leaving/enforcing boundaries in the face of abuse. None of this is revolutionary information. So why aren't you calling the mother out? From Arch's description sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 10:31 AM
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Where did you read those BP examples? TBP or here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 12:41 AM
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Because they lack empathy and fairness. The fact is plenty of people here have preconceived, less than informed ideas about RP and they interpret everything in light of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 12:36 AM
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Who cares? The child is obviously his priority. Where is your empathy? Disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 12:33 AM
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I do think a lot of sjw/bp leaning redditors can be unreasonable, but based on what I know of the situation, he'd be a sympathetic person even to the most ruthless of them. Self-righteous depravity knows no end.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 12:32 AM
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That won't be nearly as damaging however than a controlling father who doesn't value or respect her mother at all and leaves her with the idea that she doesn't deserve a non abusive partner later in life, because she'll think that kind of behavior is normal. You don't know this. You have no fucking clue what his little girl will think in the future. He doesn't know it and he's her father. Check your self-righteousness. It's leaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 12:29 AM
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Royaltiessssssss!!!! I'm rich bitches!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 08:43 PM
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Well the OP is, going by the label, is kinda an RP lone wolf.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 07:27 PM
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How is the baby communicating his need through crying, or the cat asking for attention "influencing in an unfair manner." Cause they are cute. Cuteness is an unfair advantage. Who else has cuteness in spades? Women. See the game is unfair from the very beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 07:25 PM
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because i value scientific empiricism? So how does that work when you can't interview a statistically relevant part of TRP? if you are social and you care more about yourself than others, you are a sociopath LOL, really? I had no idea that the threshold is so low. Society must be infested with sociopaths by your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 07:22 PM
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To the real point, instead of trying to rationalise how X isn't manipulation, RP should be saying yeah sure it is but everyone manipulates each other anyway. Because that's true and I respect honesty. Don't they say this pretty much always? Rarely do I see RPers denying something as being manipulative. Or better yet their threshold for considering what is "evil manipulation" is significantly higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 07:18 PM
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Must be why you tried to paint RPers as sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 07:09 PM
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Those things you just mentioned, besides the sex related ones, he's shown to be bad for relationships no matter who does it. Showing interest in each other and each other's activities is also coded for and is alluded to here, even. These things you complain about are coded for, looked at, studied in some of his other stuff, just not here specifically. You know from reading TRP I found that most LTR stuff comes from men in marriages that were deeply unsatisfied. Archwinger is a prime example of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 07:06 PM
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Wait, doesn't that imply that men will just silently suffer and find other venues to be happy while married instead of fixing the problem with the wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 06:53 PM
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Sorry but I completely lost my train of thought. I wanted to make a larger point but can't remember what was it :/ I'm just bad at multitasking being a puppy and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 06:51 PM
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Nothing in his research shows that alpha, dominant, aloof behaviors sprinkled with beta behaviors 4 times out of 10 is the best way to keep a relationship. How exactly does the study show that? 4/10 isn't about what you said but about responding to "bids" with couples leaving together. Much of TRP is about bedding the girl not relationships except "don't be a doormat". Jesus, there could be a whole other post about how RP actively advocates some aspects of the four horsemen, specifically critici…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 06:49 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? OP was talking about how RPers talk on TRP. There was no mention about how they talk IRL. My only point was that women will not have that much different reactions to pure honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 06:22 PM
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I know TRP's whole thing is to generalise all women everywhere, but I'm quiet certain that women might react in a great variety of ways when confronted with honesty - and that their reactions will depend on the subject matter at hand. Must be why other forums and pop culture in general always proclaim that you need to tip toe around calling your SO fat and physically unattractive. How would you feel if your SO would tell you that your ass looks REALLY fat in that dress and he doesn't find that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 05:52 PM
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Hardly the "leading the realtionship to an end" situation, more like "give me what I want, when I want, or fuck you and I'm gone" You must be right. Not getting sexual intimacy from your lifelong partner rarely or never is perfectly fine. On a unrelated note /r/deadbedrooms says hi as well the spreadsheet husband. Calling me ignorant is just a classic no true scotsman. "Ah thats not REAL red pill, REAL red pill is [some bullshit I just plucked from the air] and all those negative things you've r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 05:20 PM
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But let's also say that he's manipulating his wife in the way that he described. What exactly do you object in regard to his "manipulation"? He tells mom to fuck off with her shit toward him and doesn't bend until she apologies which leads to a time of peace. What exactly should he do? She is the one creating the unhealthy relationship. Now if he wants to fight for the custodial rights of his daughter, fine. He is fighting. If this gets to the legal system mom gets the daughter Arch gets weekend…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 01:04 PM
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Agreed. Mom should really start respecting her husband and father of her child. It leaves lasting impressions on children on how a relationship should look.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 12:56 PM
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Again, my friend with an ignorant opinion, you didn't read shit (edit: you didn't understand shit). Dread game in "married game" isn't used when everything is fine and dandy. It's used when she isn't attracted to her husband anymore or simply doesn't appreciate those kisses and flowers. People don't use dread game just for shits and giggles but to communicate to their partner that their current behavior is leading the relationship to an end.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 12:30 PM
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I'm not RP but you really should have at least some understanding of red pill advice and theory before making this grand masturbatory posts reaffirming your beliefs. Pretty much every single RP advice I've read about LTRs say you need let your inner beta out of the cave to give her some kisses and flowers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 12:05 PM
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He is a Mormon guy. You can completely ignore what he has to say about sex since he isn't getting any being a good Mormon and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 11:12 AM
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My gender: the ability to spawn more humans from your body, it's like a fucking super power and should be treated as such It is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 09:16 AM
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Helpful as always.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 08:35 AM
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The hilarious part is that I heard that from some girl on reddit and was simply passing it on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 08:00 AM
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You have any examples of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 07:58 AM
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When you're telling someone who has had things forcibly penetrated into their bodies that they haven't been raped until their attacker is convicted, I'd say that's pretty close to harassment in many people's books no matter where you stand on the subject. I wouldn't say he said that. All he said is that he can't know for sure what happened and that it would be improper to only listen to one side. Not giving the other side the right to defend themselves is counter to fairness. Not everyone surren…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 10:44 AM
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So what do they have that you don't? I doubt you have a killer body. That's a start. You come back to me after 6 months of heavy squats and tell me that not a single guy started at your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/14 12:21 AM
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Get a killer body. At least you could be a butter face. Approach men (not too aggressive so as not to appear slutty). Be enthusiastic when fucking the guy. Problem semi-solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 11:45 PM
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Feminism is noble and good but has a bad image problem which has at least partially been inflicted on it out of spite. Must be why NOW is against shared parenting. Or the CDC doesn't label woman forcing herself on a man as rape, or why UN Women exist but not UN Men, or why "women have always been the primary victims of war" or why men can't get official support to form groups for men on campuses etc. But hey feminism is noble and good. 1st wave suffragettes are my favorite. Especially how they u…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 08:32 PM
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I wasn't even debating her alleged rape. I was debating your attitude of trying to shame the dude for asking her questions on a topic she opened.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 07:01 PM
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Well it''s over now but just because she brought up a personal story doesn't give the anyone the right to grill her credibility. Why not? This is a debate forum. Not a rape survivors support group. Have a heart. Still beating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 10:22 AM
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I also found that interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 01:09 AM
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Lisak puts that number at 5% of college males. 90% of all rapes we committed by serial rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 01:03 AM
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I don't understand redditors who claim to recognize such behaviours all the time. I think they are just used to recognizing foolish people. Maybe they are too used to the crudeness of trp. I'll usually accept that there's at least the possibility of clever people who've outwitted or pulled fast one on me IRL, because there are lots of situations I've been in where I couldn't tell. I'm not sure why bpers are so sure of themselves. There's often no tactful way to call someone out on well-executed …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 12:52 AM
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I think you're going a little to far into her personal life now. You've made your point, not everyone agrees with you, no move on because you're approaching harassment now. She opened the topic herself and he was perfectly polite. Making a reply is not tantamount to harassment. If she doesn't want to respond that is her prerogative and choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 12:44 AM
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Huh? No the research doesn't show that at all, they both show that women raping men is fairly rare overall. It shows that men are raped perhaps more often than we would have thought but this is mostly by other men. That ideological bias you were talking about? You're demonstrating it here by misrepresenting the results. Nope. Here is some CDC for you: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6308a1.htm Men aren't raped (according to CDC). They are made-to-penetrate (soooo not rape ama right?!)…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/14 12:01 AM
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"Highly intelligent" is debatable, "successful scientist" is just plain false, and the author claim is irrelevant to the discussion. Well I can see that he received a number of awards from prominent organizations. So saying that he isn't a successful scientist just sounds you being a petty contradictorian. Whether you like him or not is irrelevant, the point remains that you seem to be arguing that "feminists are biased" but happy to believe that anti-feminists are not. That's just plain shitty …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 10:55 PM
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Arguably he would have some knowledge of how to read studies but considering he hasn't done that kind of research for decades, his skills would be rusty. Okay, let's say he would have equivalent expertise on the matter as a first year uni student - I'd still consider that a layman. So, a highly intelligence and successful scientist and author is on the level of a first year uni student simply because you say so? Makes total sense. I guess the man stopped educating himself after the 80s. Ah, so t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 10:29 PM
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2) he has no training or expertise in the matter of rape research so his opinion on that topic is as relevant as any layman's. He has more expertise than a layman, at least when looking at evidence from other studies. I doubt he came to this conclusion simply trying to be edgy. More likely scenarios is that there are a multitude of factors that simply get ignored because of ideology. Large swats of research on rape are firmly in the hands of feminist "academics". That research is pretty much tai…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 09:32 PM
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Well at least one respected psychologist thinks it's bullshit: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1a67x4/i_am_steve_pinker_a_cognitive_psychologist_at/c8uhbwo
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 09:03 PM
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I was going to respond to you seriously, but after writing a long response I see you've linked a slanted propaganda blog and an article written by a person promoting a book. So I can't waste my time with a serious answer to your questions until you do some more balanced reading. On offense meant, it would just be a waste of both of our times. That's rich coming from someone that linked to an article in which the "rape is about power" propaganda is spouted. Not to mention seriously using the term…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 08:15 PM
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express negative attitudes and harassment behavior towards those women. So say abstracts from studies behind a paywall (which even you didn't read).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 05:28 PM
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I'm not talking about tumblrinas. I'm talking about women writing articles on high-traffic websites, women influencing public policy and laws. Tumblrinas are just bringing the theory to absurdity but it's idiotic to say that there aren't less absurd interpretations which are significantly more widely accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 05:27 PM
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Oh the old NAFALT. Those "radfems" are writing laws and influencing public opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 05:22 PM
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Which is ok when you are talking about using people as slaves or some equally egregious case but falls apart when some radfem talks about eye rape and similar bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 03:23 PM
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He made a pretty good critique of your abstracts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 03:18 PM
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This is all find and dandy but the OP's point is that the whole "objectification" theory as is presented by various feminists does result in a non-significant amount of men getting the shitty memo that sexual attraction == objectification. Eye-rape anyone? All people objectify on some level but the only ones that I would find relevant are socio/psychopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 03:13 PM
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So tl;dr is men think about women in a sexual manner when women act in such manner?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 02:59 PM
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Thought so. Just wanted you to say it. I guess this is another point for TRP theory on how hard(er) it is to woe women into bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 10:25 PM
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Maybe it's just because I'm bi and getting laid isn't a huge feat for me Why does being bi get you (easily) laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 10:14 PM
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The main thing I disagree with, when it comes to TRP is the hypocrisy. That's because you operate under the assumption of fairness/equality on both sides. TRP operates under the assumption of maximizing personal happiness. If hypocrisy isn't compromising that goal for the applicant there is no point in caring about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 11:29 AM
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OP it's proper form to list your sources, especially when you have such an easy access to them. Otherwise we end up with TBP's hilariously bad imgur albums of TRP's "misogyny", that when looked in context paint a far less harsher picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 11:26 AM
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How come nobody is blaming Apple? What for? http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2f6e89/trps_take_on_the_leaked_celebrity_pics/ck6dby7
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/14 05:34 PM
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Doubt it. We don't even know if iCloud was the only one involved. Even if it is the current theory is they used an exploit to brute force passwords from the Find My Phone service. You can only brute force weak passwords. Guess who makes the password? The customer, in this case the people whose pics are getting leaked.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/14 05:31 PM
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That there are specific instances that were potentially covered up/misrepresented does not invalidate that statement. I hope you extend the same courtesy to red pillers when AWALT or similar is said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 11:53 AM
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Now you are nitpicking. UK is a part of Europe. Plus it's not the only one. You have France (less so) and Sweden (more so) where such sentiments run high. Let me quote you: There's no elaborate 'cover up' about this at all! Demonstrably false with the article. Or do I need to dig through your history too find you calling out some red piller about use of AWALT or some other absolute appearing statement? I'm reasonably sure I could find you dismissing absolute statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 11:39 AM
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Nice topic OP. Political correctness is stagnating public discourse. Everyone is too worried not to be labeled some kind of -ism (usually unfounded) so important topics aren't being addressed. In this context immigration and assimilation are taboo because, god forbid, you say that majority people from shitty cultures shouldn't be granted entry in the country because they bring nothing of value to it or even worse erode the current values. So once you silence that debate you just create a pressur…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 11:33 AM
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There's no elaborate 'cover up' about this at all! Nobody is addressing it. And your "there's no elaborate 'cover up' about this at all" shtick doesn't fly because at this very moment you have a story in UK about cover up of child abuse by mostly men of Pakistani heritage which happened simply because people in charge didn't want to appear racist. So not only is there a social/politically-correct 'cover up' but there is an actual one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 10:54 AM
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And I'm saying that if that wasn't posted on TRP she would have simply called him an asshole not an "an asshole who chases dramatic women and fucks with them emotionally out of misogynistic tendencies". The post speaks less about misogynistic tendencies of the OP than the comment speaks about her confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 11:24 AM
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Oh sorry. My bad. I'll edit my unfounded objection. I'm still sticking to the second part of my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 10:15 AM
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And why do people spend a lot of time talking and thinking about "pressuring women into sex". Why is society generally concerned about the fear of women being pressured into sex? Notice the difference. That to me is moving the goalposts. My bad. Read below why. The question is also complete derailment of the initial comment. You are trying to strip the phrase of it's context because it doesn't work in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 10:03 AM
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Why is society generally concerned about the fear of women being pressured into sex? Oh look you are moving the goalposts. How unsurprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 09:40 AM
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Did you notice that "in the given context" part? You obviously didn't. We are talking about this comment and the context within it. Let me quote the relevant part: There is so much naval gazing in our society over the fear that women might be pressured to have sex when they don't really want to. Here's a person being pressured to have a relationship and accept commitments that he doesn't want. Maybe, just maybe, we could spend a thread or two telling guys that it's okay to say "no" The OP is poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 09:22 AM
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Neither is "pressuring women into sex" in the given context.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 09:03 AM
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And why don't people spend a lot of time talking and thinking about "pressuring men into relationships".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 08:52 AM
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OP just said that if you are going to spend that amount of time talking and thinking about "pressuring women into sex" then there is not reason not to talk about "pressuring men into relationships".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 08:40 AM
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...Where are you getting that from? The guy can still be a dick for stringing her along regardless of the woman's agency, you know? Yes he can but he can't be a dick who "chases dramatic women and fucks with them emotionally out of misogynistic tendencies" from that single post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 08:36 AM
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Yes, because saying 'blah blah blah' in place of the other party does not influence the reader's perception of the argument at all. It enforces bias. From my perspective her argument is irrelevant in the given context. What's important is the attitude she used trying to make that argument and him not wanting to engage that attitude at all. What matters is how he reacted to it. Which is the gist of the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 08:28 AM
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The context The context is simple. OP made a parallel between "are we in a committed relationship" talk and "women might be pressured to have sex when they don't really want to" aka "my lady doesn't fuck me enough sex" talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 08:20 AM
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How illogical That she can determine his "misogynistic tendencies" simply because he refuses to communicate about a serious topic with an overly emotional person that is being verbally abusive toward him really is magic aka illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 08:07 AM
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He knows she's into him. He's sleeping with her anyway. So? Why are you denying her agency? She can't chose what she wants? What's best for her? Do you hate women? Do you think women should be treated like children? So yes, I think he's a dick A dick who "fucks with them emotionally out of misogynistic tendencies". What amazing powers of insight you have. He must hate women simply because he doesn't want to have the talk about their relationships status while being yelled at and insulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 08:03 AM
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Hmm, women+pressure+sex= rape? How illogical. Completely illogical in the given context. "You know, us having all of this sex could get me pregnant." No it won't. (Then silence) "You know, it's bullshit how you'll fuck me but not want to be with me." Silence. "You're an asshole. You'd rather check your email than spend time with me." (Notice, she had already been on her phone like 3 times at this point and even had another dude calling her, which she had to mention which I did not respond to.) I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 10:48 PM
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Because he is telling us from his perspective what he thinks is the important part of her outburst and is interesting for the reader. He is demonstrating holding his frame to TRP so there is no point to quote her fully since that isn't the relevant part except the general gist of her outburst. The central part of the post is his reaction. Shit I use blah, blah, blah frequently when I'm enumerating something and don't feel like writing the entire list since it's pretty clear what the gist of it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 10:43 PM
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I already posted about this on TBP, but the guy sounds like an asshole who chases dramatic women and fucks with them emotionally out of misogynistic tendencies. Wow! You got all of that only from one of his post? You must be some kind of a wizard! What spell did you use? Confirmation bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 10:33 PM
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FFS, he literally put "blah blah blah" in her quotes. Probably because the rest was enough for the reader to conclude what was her central point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 10:25 PM
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The fact that a forum exists where people discuss ways to passive aggressively win arguments (he literally gets her to cave by giving her the silent treatment) doesen't make it any less weird. I didn't know that when you tell people not to act a certain way with you and then shut up you are giving them the silent treatment. I guess everything need to be explained and clarified and triple checked so everyone can understand what was said. Hmm yes some chick threatening to not have sex with you any…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 10:18 PM
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OP gave a specific age range. Instead of running with that you took an offhand hyperbolic phrase to use for your title.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 04:20 PM
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Oh noes, an angsty teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 03:08 PM
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So how old is the dude in question?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 08:56 AM
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when I called him out on it he told me to "educate myself" and gave me a link to TRP. Sure he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 06:25 AM
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You know that from personal experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 09:33 AM
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There's this. Although, I'm not sure TRP has made these changes, but that could be because I don't spend a ton of time there. (If someone wants to find some relevant quotes, I'm all ears.) Oh I remember that. How is that wrong? Just because alpha wolf isn't really a thing in the wild doesn't mean TRP can't use it to describe some of their concepts. Even the guy that initially concluded that their is a top wolf used the word alpha because it evokes the idea of a top leader wolf. Social hierarchie…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 08:56 AM
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On blank slate theory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 08:58 PM
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Actually we are talking about sexual strategy for men in a feminist world. Those legal rights have established the relationships and we are saying it is not good. I don't see how them having the same rights (and in ideal world responsibilities) affects relationships. Sans marriage but then again everyone here is saying not to get married.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/14 08:09 PM
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Perfect topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:08 PM
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OP, I'm interested in how would you interpret this pre-TRP?
/r/TheRedPill01/08/14 06:59 PM
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Sometimes I really do feel as America's most beautiful (and misunderstood) men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:56 PM
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All I can add is: Woof! Wwoof? Grrrrr! Warf!!! Wooffff! Woooooof!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:44 PM
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What is wrong with making such statements?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:42 PM
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Your entire objection, as far as I understand it, is that red pillers are talking (unfavorably) about women without mentioning men directly and stating that men do exactly the same shit. How is that not a "but what about the menz" argument? An argument you attribute to SJWs?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:34 PM
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See, it's hilarious seeing red pill using the exact same tactics as SJWs. You people are ridiculous. Woosh. That was me making fun of your argument since you are the one using the "but what about the menz" line of thinking. So since you have a disdain for RPers I guess you are self-proclaimed SJW. Which you make a fun of (being so self-important as the mod, sorry founder of TiA). So you are in fact making fun of yourself. Comedy goal. BTW I'm still not a red piller but please do continue to igno…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:19 PM
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It says it's something women do, nowhere does it say any different. If I said "women can't drive" someone could later say "but EFS meant men can't drive either, he was saying no one can drive" but that doesn't change the fact that my original statement was exclusive to women. tl;dr But what about the menz. Bitch I created TiA. What I life achievement that is. Now remove the bitch part. Personal insults aren't welcome or allowed. Sure that place is full of extremists but I realise they're just th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 04:41 PM
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Cosmo is simply a catch-all for those sorts of notions that exist in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 03:40 PM
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I've seen them cite studies in TRP (not that many time vs. other posts) but certainly in the wider man-o-sphere (I think there is a link to a RP blog from OP comments on how top men get majority of sex). I'm partially abandoning the argument that they (they being TRP) cite studies since I can't be assed to provide specific links to them in TRP. Yes, yes it's bad debating form but I'm just not that invested in this argument nor have the time to go digging. Here is my lazy way out: http://www.redd…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 03:18 PM
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Again though you are talking about your own interpretation whereas I'm just looking at what the theory actually says. I definitely agree men "hamster" too but the theory doesn't say that, it's just some red pillers choose to believe that and read that interpretation into the theory. Where does the theory say that it's exclusive to women? RP is sexual strategy for men in getting with women. Your argument sound like the ever present "but what about the menz". It's not like theory isn't subject to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 02:17 PM
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I know women that are completely unlike what TRP says women are. With how many of those women were you in a relationship? With how many were you intimate? They cite anecdotal examples to prove they're right. They also cite studies which point that their theories aren't complete shit and plenty of guys out there have similar experiences with women. EDIT: I think it's better to say there are studies supporting some of their theories. Or at least providing strong indications which is sufficient for…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 01:20 PM
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But that's not what TRP theory says. Some individual red pillers might have said it but nowhere in the blogs or the dictionaries on the subreddit does it say "men do this too", it only talks about women doing it. They talk abut men but not in a direct way. It's part of many of their theories but pretty much only when they are providing men with mental frameworks to counter the bro hamster. Isn't "don't get oneitis" telling guys not to hamster the uniqueness of women they like? EDIT: An acknowled…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 01:11 PM
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So that's a good thing. You know what isn't a good thing? You having a perception of TRP on indirect accounts and internal bias instead of directly. I'm still not seeing any links from you to those thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 08:43 AM
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Letting the man be in charge does not make the woman 'a second class citizen.' Letting the man be in charge in a relationship makes almost all women happy and horny so long as he considers her needs and opinions primary. Letting the woman be in charge of a relationship makes almost all women unhappy and looking for another man. How is that working out for you? What the fuck is this, reading comprehension whack-a-mole? We are talking about legal rights in a society not relationships. Go re-read t…
/r/TheRedPill01/08/14 06:17 AM
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Which is silly. Aren't women with bachelors (not masters or above) the least risky divorce group?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 03:57 PM
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Here is how countries with a strong streak of political and academic feminism implement feminism in unis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0 Enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 01:35 PM
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Well? It's been 11 hours already. I'm dying to read those threads and the arguments why it's better to date an uneducated chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 01:32 PM
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LOL should have read further down the thread before posting my comment. Always nice to see somebody less lazy than me posting links to what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 01:30 PM
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This has been a trend lately. But it's mostly socio economic in my opinion and a lot to do with shifts in what's considered the top industries to work in. Everything now is highly intellectual or interpersonal and less labor. Hence jobs nowadays require a lot of education and that's easier to obtain the more affluent you are/how you were raised. How does that have to do with boys doing worse in school. Why was a young male student in 1940 able to sit still and pay attention and perform well acad…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 01:29 PM
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Oh please stop bullshitting. Like feminism is/was only an academic subject. They never actually implemented the misandrist shit they believe, right? Right? No all man are rapists campaigns. No slanted family courts. No campaigns for prisons free of women. Right? Those and a hundred others never happened. Feminism was just observing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 07:24 AM
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But they are not a cause to distrust all women. The quote in the title implies that women can't be trusted because they are women. That's the issue I'm having with posts like these. Women are in a unique position to fake a pregnancy. Men sure as hell can't do it. Except Arnold. Arnold can do anything. Including being a fakely pregnant, cigar smoking machine from the future. I also personally dislike spying, unless there is some very, very good indication that it may be warranted. This I think is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 09:45 PM
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So you want is make us men second class citizens. LOL. You really are lacking in reading comprehension. I don't want such a thing but neither do I want to make others second class citizens. We already are in certain situations, where feminism has won. Yeah, no shit. Doesn't mean we should take their rights. Only expand their responsibilities as should have been done from the start. I for one will never let women like you to put all men down. What exactly will you do? Bitch online with intellectu…
/r/TheRedPill30/07/14 05:43 PM
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You can't teach the history of women without also teaching why there is so little of it. Women were regarded as "unimportant creatures" for most of recorded history, and like you men mainly valued them for their reproductive capabilities, something feminism has been trying to fight since it's inception. You know who else was regarded as "unimportant creatures"? 99% of men throughout human history. Feminism only cares about pointing to the top dogs but completely ignores the bulk of men that hist…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 02:31 PM
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TRP is all about mind games..... That makes for a win lose situation a lot of the time. Since when is setting boundaries playing mind games? One thing they and PUAs got right is you can't negotiate desire. If anything RP teaches how to deflect minor minds games women like to do or when to bail because "bitch be cray cray". The doctor analogy is still really dumb. Professional and personal environments are fundamentally different. No shit. I was talking about how red pillers talk in TRP and how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 02:19 PM
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For one, relationships can be win win instead of win lose, so there is that. What makes you think that RP ways result in a win lose scenarios? Because a girl "lost" a shit test? Because the guy is getting what he wants? What makes you think that women lose out in RP relationships? The doctor analogy is just ridiculous. Let me rephrase it then. Do doctors in professional settings (such as a conference) talk how a great guy Mike, the cancer patient, is when describing some cutting edge therapy? TR…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 01:55 PM
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I wouldn't say it's entirely useless, but it needs refinement. Please do tell how exactly do you think red piller talk to women as opposed to talking to women as people? My way of personally looking at is that people have more innate value than just utility, by virtue of being human. If you want casual sex, fine, but individuals have more to them than just that side as well So when doctors are diagnosing you and are talking in clinical terms they completely ignore the fact that you are a human b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 01:32 PM
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Men tend to be more rational than women, which we all know. Must be why men voted for G.W. Bush under impressions that "he looks like a guy I can have a beer with". Men may think more logically but you are running with the assumption that the premise is sound. No matter how much logic you apply to a faulty premise the end result is still a faulty conclusion. Men also tend to be cooperative with one another, while women tend to sabotage other women more than cooperate, which we also know very wel…
/r/TheRedPill30/07/14 01:17 PM
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I think we all made a mistake in the past for treating women as equal to men. If you think about it, this conception that women should have the same rights is very new to humans. This concept of equality is still new to men as well. Guy like you are forgetting that 99% of men had little to no rights for most of history. If anything rights are a function of the wealth of a given society. And it seems that women aren't "designed" to be equal to us at all for me. And what you, I or any men is? We a…
/r/TheRedPill30/07/14 12:11 PM
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The funny thing is, is that history is largely about important men, not women, and that's where women's studies comes from. Which would be ok if they only stuck to "amazing women in history". Instead they turn it into "women were unimportant creatures through history". Ignoring the fact that none of us would be here is women didn't pop out kids left and right. So every single women that popped out a kid in history is as equally important as those "important men". There is a reason that primitive…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 09:22 AM
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Dude, you clearly have no idea how trauma impacts people, regardless of gender. It's not my quote so I can only guess at the proper meaning but taking into account all that 2famous said in previous comments here is my take on it: 2famous is rejecting the notion that he is some scary guy who makes women "freeze and fear for their life". Why did she come home with him to have sex then? An abused girl is a huge red flag for red pillers (and rightly so). 2famous would have dumped her the moment he n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 08:29 AM
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I'm hoping this sparks a few more debates about different aspects of this research but for now I'd like to concentrate on why you guys feel she needs to throw her feminist perspective in there seemingly out of nowhere, which imo completely contradicts everything she's concluded up to that point? Because feminism (or rather its followers) simply can't allow research which contradicts their ideology. Blank slate aka "gender is a social construct" (lol) can't have science contradicting it since it …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 01:26 PM
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Oh she did more than that. She obstructed plenty of research and results that point to female-on-male rape and intentionally sabotage a study that points to women being more violent intimate partners. If anything she is a rape and domestic violence apologist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 12:50 PM
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Well I must have better critical thinking skills then you because the post was an exercise in trying to fit a square in a round hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 11:03 PM
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Guy who wrote the post in TRP got all twisted up with trying to use the word rape, as used by feminists in it's ever reaching scope, with the study that plenty of women have rape fantasies plus the general experience that plenty of ladies like it rough/dominant. That's how you got that stupid post on TRP. OP trying to be an edgy smartass. The point the OP wanted to make but failed is that plenty of women would like a reenactment of that fantasy in real life or at least a good pounding where they…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 11:01 PM
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With what exactly? That plenty of ladies like it that way in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 10:49 PM
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Do you English? Do I? OMG!!! Do I???!!!! Fantasy is not reality. It's not that they want real life rape/ravishment, they want head in the clouds perfect fantasy man/situation consensual sex. Not that they want to be ravaged/raped by a real man in a non consensual manner out of the blue. Well you sure don't English. Go re-read what I wrote. The OP wrote it poorly and got tangled in his own words. Furthermore, the studies show only a range of women fantasize about it, not all women. And I claimed …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 10:41 PM
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Pretty much all of the ones I've read.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 10:29 PM
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My comment was a circlejerk comment on a circlejerk subreddit. Sure it was. No real opinion there because you say it was just a "circlejerk comment". I hope you have the same standards for when red pillers do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 10:29 PM
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It's basically a bunch of loaded and unscientific assumptions being used by them to empower their efforts because even though they say they don't want it they really want it. There is a study that show that a large percentage of women have rape fantasies. Hardly unscientific. The OP that wrote the post was just a dumbass that extremely poorly expressed himself trying to tie together a few concepts hoping to be edgy. It just boils down to most women wanting men (that they find attractive/are in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 10:18 PM
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Oh, so we can't use comments you made in another thread you linked to in this thread showing your opinion on something? I sure hope you never link to TRP to prove your point. That would be hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 10:22 AM
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I managed to get half way through before giving up. The author really, really, really had to stretch aspects of TRP just so that they might not-really fit it into the criteria. Intellectually riveting work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 12:46 AM
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You sure implied it: And now all we need to do is watch them "hamster" their way out of this deep deep ditch that you buried them beneath. These guys are crazy delusional and cult-like, and they are in complete denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 12:40 AM
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You literally just said you would rape someone. Where did he say that? I'm not seeing anything about him saying he would rape anyone. I'm not going to continue this because you'll just find a way to blame it on feminism, when really you have the mentality of a rapist and there's no helping you unless I was some sort of magical psychologist. This isn't joking, and I'm not taking a low-blow at you. You seriously have a rapist mindset, and I advise you to seek help. You have some serious problems l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 12:13 AM
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How about one free abortion @$300 for women and one free sex act @$300 for men per year? Everyone walks out happy (except the fetus).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 06:46 PM
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THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER WHEN AND WHERE THEIR GAMETES ARE RELEASED, AND THEREFORE CAN PREVENT RELEASING THEM IN A LOCATION AT A TIME WHEN CONCEPTION CAN OCCUR. It's pretty straightforward. You're needlessly complicating a simple concept. To make a baby you need a sperm and an egg. An egg is involuntarily released as part of ovulation. The exact time it's released and will be present for fertilization is unknown to a woman. Sperm is released as the product of orgasm, which a man has definitive know…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 06:45 PM
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You have full control over when and where you ejaculate. You have inherent control over that. You know when it happens, and you know where it happens. If you want it to not happen, you can make it so it doesn't happen. Unless on hormonal contraception, women ovulate regardless of whether or not they want to. There is no control over it. Birth control adds that control by preventing ovulation until the woman decides to go off of birth control. What the fuck are you talking about? Man ejaculates (…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 06:04 PM
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I'm not saying we should give it out like candy, I was just making a comparison between condoms and birth control. I actually don't think that we (supposing we are talking about America) need or have to give it out for free. But better access would be great. I don't think that the OP of the thread has any problem with that. He was talking about government subsidies coming out of his pocket. Men don't have a need for condoms. No shit. So a man and a woman have sex, she gets pregnant, but she has …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 05:02 PM
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I generally agree with you on what you said except this: Nothing against this. My tax money goes to much stupider things, so I guess I can stomach a few sluts getting condoms and morning after pills at my expense. You should be happy about it and should push for more of it because it simply makes more economic sense for you as a tax payer. The cost of raising an average kid is something like $250,000. What's a realistic/production price for condoms and birth control pills? Probably a few cents. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 04:22 PM
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Hell, actually, men have more control than women ever will, as unless they are raped, they have full control over when and where their gametes are delivered in an area where conception can occur. I disagree. Women have more control in this area. They have more choices to control reproduction and even if it does happen they still have options whether to continue the pregnancy, terminate it or complete it and give up the child or keep it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 04:11 PM
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Yeah, through prescription. I don't call that consistent. Birth control cannot be bought over the counter, like can condoms. Condoms are even given out for free sometimes, but never birth control. Well that is a side effect of a shitty healthcare in US. In countries with universal healthcare I'm pretty sure they don't give hormonal birth control without prescription. Here is an interesting article on this. It look like only poor countries give it out like candy (probably because of high birth ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 04:07 PM
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One might dare say even some privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 12:26 PM
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"Oh noes! Nobody responded to my post after an hour. They must be scared of my superior reasoning skills!" -- sontato Michael Scott
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 12:24 PM
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So apparently it does affect you in real life or "BPers that really don't understand statistics would think that".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 12:13 PM
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No debate is ever occuring in this sub? I'm not saying no debate is occurring in this sub but there is a lot of "I'm morally superior to you" circlejerking going on. Either way you came in here just to say how talking about ethic of a BP mod (them being representative of TBP) is circlejerking. Perhaps the OP is butthurt but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a valid point when asking: Does the bluepill usually operate this dishonestly, and are users aware that it does? That's a valid debate topic…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 12:07 PM
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It's just TRP jargon. Probably used to get a rise out of the politically correct crowd amongst being a pretty decent descriptor. I think that the operative word is "soft" since a proper harem wasn't (usually?) shared with other men and there were responsibilities involved on the side of the guy fucking the harem ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 11:55 AM
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Fair point and I agree with you but I see no reason why not question the ethics of some BPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 11:50 AM
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Considering the amount of "my BF is a redpiller, help!" posts on other subs apparently it isn't a near-impossibility. Or those posters are just lying about it to paint TRP in as bad a light as possible. In that case it just shows how morally corrupt the "opposition" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 11:48 AM
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Because it's a lost cause? What do you want TBP to say here? We are not modding, for many of us we aren't even subbed to TBP. How about agreeing on how (un)acceptable that sort of behavior is in general? It's not like a great deal of debate here isn't about ethics of this or that. Seriously, the only interesting info coming from this thread is that the Red Pillers posting here are just there for a good mutual circlejerk. You mean like when bluepillers come here to debate? How very interesting a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 11:45 AM
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The mod is misinterpreting TRP intentionally so I see no reason why not to debate that. It's not like this is a strictly formal debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 11:25 AM
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None of this affects us blue pillers irl Considering how much people accuse it of being a "abuse&rape central" (trademark pending) apparently there is concern that it will affect them IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 11:23 AM
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Also from the sidebar: Purple Pill Debate is a community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheRedPill and /r/TheBluePill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 11:20 AM
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Purple Pill Debate is a community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheRedPill and /r/TheBluePill. From the sidebar. TBP is fare game. We always hear about evil TRP mods so I see no reason why not to discuss lack of ethic in a mod that is from a sub considering itself morally superior to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 11:18 AM
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That sounds like a nice idea, but from what I understand about TRP theory (none of these are necessarily my views) - it claims that all women are inherently hypergamous, and even if they were self-aware of this like the Red Pill Women proponents attempt to do, it is not something that they can bypass or remove from themselves. So even if they did what Vornash suggested, wouldn't they be bound to be unhappy due to this said hypergamy? It just seems like there's inconsistency in the sense that Red…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/14 08:07 AM
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You're kinda biased since it works against you. Manwhore ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/14 11:40 AM
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Total Daily Energy Expenditure. Basically your basic metabolic rate + calories used up during the day on activity. So he is saying calorie intake to maintain weight + calories to bulk. 500+ TDEE seams too much for average female that is bulking while lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 07:29 PM
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He edited all of his comments because when you delete a comment it still remains in reddit's database (just isn't shown on the site) but when you edit it the last change will get stored in the database because reddit doesn't have versioning of comments last time I looked. EDIT: He deleted all of his comments. So he can't be called out on previous statements that contradict his current ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 02:28 PM
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I don't appreciate the tone, or the wording. I think we both know I wasn't wrong, I never said any of the things you said I did, I simply didn't explain it as in depth as you wanted me to. You were wrong. Apparently not intentionally but still wrong. Still this level of passive-aggression and delusional belief in superiority is something I've come to expect from red pillers. I'm not a "red piller". What I am is a better person than you. You appear to be a typical self-righteous, hypocritical soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 04:38 PM
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You did mis-word it. It's a common myth among fat people, usually used to not go on a diet. Anyway, apology accepted. Always nice to talk to a reasonable person who can admit they were wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 10:04 PM
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Nope Then don't ever imply that you can "retain" calories when in caloric deficit. but changes in metabolic rate can significantly effect the amount of fat one loses. No shit. Glad we sorted this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 09:41 PM
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Do you think that you can store fat when in a caloric deficit?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 09:32 PM
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I'm so sorry, my specialist ED therapists and doctors must have been either lying to me or grossly misinformed! Thanks for correcting them, random person on reddit! I have no doubt your specialists told you correctly. You are just repeating it incorrectly. That's my point, losing weight isn't just calories, it's dealing with the motivations behind eating. I'm sorry if that's too complicated for you. I agree but I wasn't remarking about that. I think you are just wooshing around my point aka the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 09:06 PM
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More slowly, and unhealthily if you eat that little. You seem to think you can pick and choose things, no, my argument is based on the 800-1200 calories in that article, you can't divorce it from that. I'm not disputing that. I'm talking about the idiocy of your statement that you can retain calories while being in a caloric deficit. You can't. There is this thing called laws of thermodynamics. You should look up the first law. It's simply not that simple in the long-term I'm afraid. We wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 08:37 PM
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I didn't comment on the article, I commented on her starvation mode myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 07:15 PM
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I didn't comment on the article because I don't need to. 800-1200 kcal a day is fucking bullshit and would apply only if you were an overweight, bed ridden dwarf that wanted to lose weight. I commented on "your body quickly starts retaining because it's starving" part of your comment which is bullshit. That's why I mentioned starvation mode (myth) and explained why it's bullshit. You don't "retain" calories when you are starving, you are simply using less of them (because your body adapted as mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 07:14 PM
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That's bullshit. If you are in a caloric deficit you will lose weight. You can't compare your anorexic body to that of an overweight person just starting an extreme diet. The point is that so called "starvation mode" happens after months and months of extreme caloric deficit, something you were already doing. Your basic metabolic rate slows down by up to 40% but you are still going to lose weight if you are on a caloric deficit, but obviously slower.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 12:49 PM
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This isn't a very satisfactory answer. If I understand this correctly, you're saying that because it takes less skill for a girl to pick up a guy, that she should not do it? Can you expand on this, because it doesn't seem like good reasoning to me. I'm not saying she shouldn't but I'm not going to high five her for it. The amount of effort, all else being equal, isn't even comparable. If life circumstances make it so that I can accomplish something easier than other people, why should I not take…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 12:50 PM
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What I don't understand is why that makes any difference. For the same reason that a 3-year old's doodle isn't as highly regarded as Van Gogh's painting. Speaking generally, most people enjoy sex. Is it fair to expect people to hold back on sex just because it's easier for them to get it than it is for you? Sluts are shamed for the number of sexual partners not the amount of sex they have. A women that is in a monogamous relationship could get fucked multiple time a day for years without anyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 12:34 AM
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You guys act, or at least this is how most people interpret it, that you are disgusted and offended that any girl would dare sleep around, but at the same time you advocate that guys should get with as many girls as they can. What you have problem with is the alleged hypocrisy. Which brings us to the whole slut-stud dichotomy. They aren't the same no matter how much sex-positive feminism wants it to be. If you are a decent looking woman all you need is to exist, slap some face paint and get into…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 01:21 PM
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From my experience normal, average women don't post in places like TBP or PPD. Most don't even know what reddit is and think that 9gag is source of all funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 10:22 PM
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I doubt that women that frequent TBP are representative of the average female.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 09:16 PM
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Open another topic if you want to debate that instead of hijacking this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 09:14 PM
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That was the biggest thing my transmasculine friends tell me... being able to just walk around without people batting an eye was liberating for them. So what do they think of dating women? Liberating, frustrating, middle ground?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 08:06 PM
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Don't quote me but I think that there were some studies about men receiving more respect and women being treated nicer by people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 08:00 PM
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Thanks, mate. May fortune find you on your journey.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 07:57 PM
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:D I couldn't remember then name for that fluffy stuff baby chicks have.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 07:49 PM
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Well no point in risking since we established you are not fugly. In fact you look pretty good without all the baby feathers on your face :P
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 07:39 PM
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Wow, what a difference! You look way better clean shaven, the facial hair didn't work at all. Either way it's not your face that is the problem. Now delete the pictures. No point in getting doxxed.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 07:32 PM
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I am curious to hear RP reactions to it given that i've seen RPers commenting about the damaging nature of enforcing 'be a man/don't cry' on boys AND exhorting each other to grow a pair/man up etc. "Be a man/don't cry" usually boils down to shaming the person into suppressing their emotions and bottling them up. TRP on the other hand will say "man up" but it will provide advice on how to channel those emotions into positive actions: go lift, fuck a girl, find a hobby etc. If you pay attention TR…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 10:48 PM
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He's been deadlifting, bro.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/14 09:00 PM
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This is where he said it. The system is not fixable, and because they're men, they won't try because that would be beneath them. This is you being dishonest. He didn't say it's not fixable he said "it's not likely fixable". He also didn't say it's beneath him but that he simply isn't going to devote his time and energy to fixing it, instead opting to work within the system's rules for his personal happiness. Not everyone has the time, money or will to crusade for every single injustice. Most fak…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 10:17 PM
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Nice point. Except as you might have noticed, THAT CHANGED TOO. Jesus Christ. And yet we still hear how women have it bad. How all powerful men rule over the world. Bullshit feminist conspiracy crap. Nice. Don't you think it might be that the point where women out earned their husbands, courts realized that women were not unable to earn well for themselves, and therefore should not automatically get alimony, not that it was only when it was detrimental to a few women that people cared? But you k…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 08:58 PM
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Riiiight... because nothing ever changed when only men could vote or make decisions. That would be unmanly. That's why America is still a British colony. You mean the top 1-5% of men that had enough social and economical privilege to actually vote? The American Revolution was instigated by the elites not by the common man. Those were too busy dying in mine and working the fields (and latter on the battlefields). Don't you think it's a bit... idiotic... to not do anything about this? Not even cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 03:59 PM
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They have a sticky at the moment on what is or isn't for TRP. To be honest, I don't know what function the main TRP sub fulfills these days. It's a mix of extreme-MRA, stories that are supposed to affirm what subscribers already believe, and, well... complaining. I think it's transitioning into a hub, a sort of a landing zone, as far as I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 08:40 PM
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Where did I say that women had no agency. You're just offended by the verbiage. These women settled for lifestyle attraction instead of actual attraction. It's their own fault. Just like it's the guy's fault for not realizing that if you have to work that hard, attraction just isn't there. Both parties had agency. And both parties took a chance on incompatibility for a good lifestyle (the woman) or a hot wife ( the man). If both parties have agency then you can't go claiming that force was used …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 08:35 PM
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I'm starting to realize that if it came from radical feminism and deals with sex it should be completely ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 07:39 PM
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What TRP men I guess lack is a general sense of intuition. Most of the guys attracted to TRP are guys who never realized the women they married or forced themselves on ...never really lusted after them. Ah, yes, the classical "women have no agency" game. Force works so well in interpersonal relations. Can't wait for the next conquer&enslave (tm) raid. Red pillers is that this Friday or next? Let me give you some advice. I know exactly when I like someone. If you have to constantly pursue me or c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 07:36 PM
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You are living in feminist lala land not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 09:20 PM
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So you are comparing an average women to the top 0.0001% men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 02:24 PM
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I think he did the right thing for what he wanted. He wanted sex. She wasn't offering it. She was asked to leave. You've completely misread the post. She was offering. She just didn't want to feel like a slut. That's why all the talk about her regretting a previous hookup on spring break and saying she's not "usually" that kinda girl. He broke the illusion when he called out her bluff. The first comment in the thread is proper response to this, paraphrasing: "I know you aren't that kind of girl,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 01:09 AM
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I would have agreed with you had she seemed remorseful or sorry. Why would she need to be remorseful or sorry? She was doing her "I'm not that girl" routine, fooling nobody (except OP apparently), got unintentionally called out on it and got pissy. Lets reverse the roles: heavy make out session, leading to sex Guy: Do you want me to leave? Girl: Yes, I think you should leave. Guy: Sorry, I didn't realize you were such a bitch. I think that you are just projecting your distaste for TRP onto the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 11:22 PM
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Just by putting that out there he's making you think a HIGH number of female teachers are sluts. Some isn't a synonym for a high number. Ethical standards are AFAIK part of the employment contract for teachers. Saying that women are the cause of an "unsuitable" learning environment. So you are saying that women can't be criticized? That there is no reason to question if having such a high number of women in the education system is making an impact on boys? That it can never be implied or debated…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 10:19 PM
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Looks like a number of factors are mentioned there. Primarily being about lack of good male role models. Kinda hard to have a critique of the educational system if you can't mention that it's predominately female which could be part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 09:07 PM
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TRP is dangerous in the way that it GENERATES anger and hatred towards women. I suggest you never visit any relationship sub then. Plenty of rage inducing stuff there. I even saw a post that said that women teachers are what is wrong with our educational system. I'm pretty sure that it's not about women teachers per se, but about lack of male teachers. The best family units, last time I looked at data, are a classical father+mother duo so it's pretty obvious that perhaps we shouldn't be discount…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 07:16 PM
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Selective memory. It took me a while to consider my answer. Eventually I stated, "Yes I think you should leave". She proceeded to say, 'sorry I didn't realize you were a dick' before storming out. Doesn't sound like she left gladly. She sounds angry. Only one side of the story so perhaps we are missing a part of the exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 07:05 PM
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Woosh I guess. The point is that TRP-like advice for women is made fun of and even socially accepted to a degree. TRP-like advice for men is labeled as "rapey", "creepy", "dangerous". Heck you have a person in here comparing TRP to neo-nazis and racial supremacists.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 05:17 PM
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Why would the people posting not be at fault? I'm at fault for their opinions? I'm at fault for saying something that they disagree with? Your at fault for poorly choosing the title when there was precedent on this subject already. Which is absurd beyond reason. We get just as many complaints from blue pillers saying that the sub is biased against them. The mod team is as neutral as is physically possible, and we don't take complaints of bias seriously. Actually, no, I take that back. The fact t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 09:14 PM
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You picked the title. I don't see whose fault it should be but yours considering there were already some posts in the past months about the sub/mods favoring one side over the other on this very issue. So it's not like you can pretend you didn't know about it (you did read some of the top posts of all time right?).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 07:33 PM
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If you think that having a ~1/3 of the comments be about the title and not the content of the post is good for this sub then please continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 07:15 PM
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(1) My submission title included the vote total for the comment. Articles on RoK don't have vote totals. Comments do. This was an intentional indication that the quote was a comment. Vote totals don't automatically indicate a comment. Hence articles with a dis/like button. I for one didn't even know what RoK was when I read the title and assumed it was some sort of TRP-ish website and the quoted part was from an article. (2) The very first line of my submission was a screenshot where even the pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 07:02 PM
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It's still bad debating form IMO. Recently there was a debate in Canada titled "Are men obsolete?". It wasn't titled "Men are useless waste of space, lets get rid of them". See the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 06:21 PM
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True but that is exactly why the title shouldn't have been so inflammatory. I don't remember anyone actually referring to it as "that date rape post" before it was brought up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 02:19 PM
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I prefer debating morality to debating fact (cringeworthy false dichotomy though) because moral mistakes are more important than factual mistakes to me. I also prefer when there is previously existing pill discussion on the topic, an anchor we can draw on to show different viewpoints that already exist. It leads to absurd conclusions like Well if you want to debate morality then I don't see why your morality shouldn't be put up to scrutiny. You apparently intentionally attributed a user-generate…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 11:21 AM
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That link doesn't say anything about TRP believing that woman are objects. You on the other hand believe that TRP believes that woman are objects so you made that post initially in bad faith completely misconstruing what was said in the TRP post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 07:55 PM
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I think I agree with you. I rarely read TRP as literal, more as hyperbole to make a point and metaphors to provide a general principle (sans actual examples of Game). I think that the majority of criticism coming from non-TRP is just taking stuff literally with the most evil intent and working from there. I guess I don't take people so seriously nor have the need to crusade on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 10:37 PM
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There are two different channels. Eliott Husle and StrenghtCamp. One is for personal stuff,the other for lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 10:29 PM
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Well, you could always create your own subreddit. There is /r/LetsGetLaid. However the last time I was there, some women was bragging how she slept with 300+ people and a post on how not to rape people (ugh!). Not useful information on having casual dates/sex. There would need to be strict rules if such a subreddit was made. TRP had a video of Eliott Husle (spelling?) on the frontpage yesterday. So I looked at the guy and I'm liking what I've seen so far. Lots of lifting videos and lots of stuff…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/14 07:30 PM
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