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So that's 100% motte and bailey. She's making the wilder claim in the title, then in the text she makes the more defensible claim. Then fools like us end up arguing about different things she's said. Unfortunately, that kind of tactic is pretty common with feminists, and a lot of the stuff written by MRAs is no better.
/r/MensRights19/01/24 01:55 AM
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If you read OP's post carefully, you'll see that the claim being made is that "misandry doesn’t, and never has existed". A further hint that you're wrong can be found in the title of the blog post: "37 questions to prove that systemic misandry doesn’t exist anywhere in the world". The argument being made is that misandry doesn't exist, not that it's not as severe as misogyny. Pretending that you were only ever arguing that misogyny is more significant than misandry is called a 'motte and bailey'…
/r/MensRights18/01/24 01:00 PM
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Essentially, the argument being made is: "X exists, therefore Y doesn't exist." Substitute anything else for X and Y and you see that this isn't even approaching a logical argument.
/r/MensRights18/01/24 12:18 AM
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Whether it's systemic or severe is beside the point for this particular discussion. The argument being made was that 'misandry doesn't and never has existed'. That argument is easily disproven: in most countries, women have historically been protected from the worst effects of war by men, who serve (either voluntarily or involuntarily) as cannon fodder at much higher rates. Or look at the empathy gap, or the prison sentence gap, or the 'preference for positive findings' gap (I don't know what to…
/r/MensRights18/01/24 12:17 AM
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I agree that this is a problem, but several of the characters shown on that list don't really belong in the same category as Homer Simpson and Peter Griffin. Bob Belcher, Stan Smith, Hank Hill, and Phil Dunphy are all shown as being very capable people, both professionally and (with the exception of Stan Smith) as parents. Phil's strong relationship with his son was one of Modern Family's most touching aspects.
/r/MensRights13/01/24 07:46 AM
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I think that, like a lot of the posts on that sub, it contains some wisdom but goes a bit too far. The post is deleted now but I remember looking at it earlier, and I remember agreeing with all but two or three items on the list. As for women with mostly male friends, I have been cheated on twice, and both were by girls with mostly male friends. It turns out one of them lost her female friend group because she slept with one of their boyfriends. I think the other was just really into male attent…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/24 12:21 PM
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Yeah, maybe. I guess I just never thought they'd be that subtle. I hope you're right.
/r/MensRights31/12/23 12:10 AM
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Here is the post, and here is a direct link to the study. The overall finding was that attractiveness is financially rewarding for both men and women, but sometimes it can be a handicap for women too. It's a meta-analysis, so it doesn't go into the details of why attractiveness can have different outcomes for men and women. The thing about women ganging up on particularly attractive women is my own explanation. Men don't tend to do that to each other, and women don't tend to do that to attractiv…
/r/MensRights31/12/23 12:09 AM
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Yeah, that's a good point. But I do still think it was the actual sub members downvoting, because all the comments getting upvotes were along the lines of "this is rubbish, men have it way worse", while the few other reasonable comments were getting downvoted. So unless the trolls were specifically downvoting the reasonable comments to try to make the sub look stupid, I think the culprits are right here.
/r/MensRights30/12/23 08:22 AM
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I couldn't agree more. I like this sub because it's one of the few places online where misandry is not rampant, but sometimes, especially lately, it seems like anything that isn't pro-male, even peer-reviewed science, is rejected. I got downvoted to heck a while back for saying agreeing with a scientific article suggesting that attractive women get penalized for being attractive. We've all seen women tear hotter women down so that they're no longer a threat! But I still got downvoted for pointin…
/r/MensRights30/12/23 06:42 AM
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I stopped watching Picard after the episode where Seven of Nine joined their crew. They saw someone doing some impressive flying while being attacked, and Picard called out "Beam that man aboard!" He definitely emphasized the word 'man', and then he was shocked when it turned out that the skilled pilot was a lady. TNG Picard would never have assumed someone was a man just because they were good at something, nor would he be surprised to find out a skilled pilot was female. The whole scene just s…
/r/MensRights22/12/23 04:21 AM
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My biggest criticism of the term is that, as was pointed out to me by u/iainmf, 'toxic' can be used to either specifier or an intensifier. For example, the phrase 'toxic chemicals' specifies which chemicals you're talking about (the toxic ones, as opposed to the safe ones) whereas in 'toxic cigarettes', the word 'toxic' is being used to draw attention to a trait that all cigarettes have. This ambiguity makes the phrase perfect for 'motte and bailey' fallacies: you can claim all masculinity (and …
/r/MensRights20/12/23 05:11 AM
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That's a good point. And that would help with the 'motte and bailey' strategy too - depending on what suits them, feminists could be using 'toxic' as an intensifier or as a specifier... Interesting.
/r/MensRights20/12/23 04:59 AM
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To me (and perhaps this is a culture difference thing), when I hear 'toxic ___', I don't interpret that as 'all ____ is toxic'. 'Toxic chemicals' doesn't imply the non-existence of safe chemicals, it just specifies which chemicals you're talking about. I think the problem is that feminists will use the term in a kind of 'motte and bailey' fallacy argument. They will call men evil and masculinity toxic and use that to further their agenda, and then when confronted with positive aspects of masculi…
/r/MensRights20/12/23 02:00 AM
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I think the term 'toxic masculinity' refers specifically to the negative side of masculinity, not to the positive aspects you've listed here
/r/MensRights19/12/23 03:03 PM
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Every comment so far has been along the lines of either a) ignore it, b) deny it, or c) distract from the topic by bringing up something else. They're all terrible responses, and if that's the best we can do, I'm not surprised people think poorly of MRAs (yeah yeah, come at me with the downvotes). If you believe men and women are the same, then unfortunately, you're wrong. If you believe men and women are EQUAL but DIFFERENT, then it makes sense that there will be some ways that men are better, …
/r/MensRights16/12/23 05:59 AM
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I feel like there is one good reason to try to respond, which is that these conversations are taking place in a public sphere. Unless you're way down near the bottom of a comment chain, there's a good chance a lot of people are going to read what you say. If you just stop responding, those people will assume you were beaten, and that your opponent was correct. If instead you come up with a reasonable, calm, and factually correct response, you may not be able to reach your opponent, but the spect…
/r/MensRights15/12/23 11:39 PM
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Are you saying that's the name of the study? Or are you talking about a specific finding? If the latter, which paper was it reported in?
/r/MensRights15/12/23 02:22 AM
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Indeed. That's why I'm asking which specific studies of his you are claiming were ignored. It's not that I doubt you, it's that I don't know which studies you're referring to.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 05:07 AM
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They did include a few studies by David Buss. Do you know of any specific studies that weren't included?
/r/MensRights10/12/23 11:23 AM
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I've only skimmed the article so far, but I don't see a problem with it. OP's title is slightly misleading, as the study actually says that men and women are both rewarded for being attractive, but women are more likely to be penalized for it. Essentially what they're saying is that sometimes being hot is an advantage to a woman, and other times it's not. Think of all the women who will happily gang up on the pretty girl and ruin her reputation until she's no longer considered a 'threat'. Men do…
/r/MensRights10/12/23 01:11 AM
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https://doi.org/10.1016/j.econlet.2022.110782, if anyone was wondering
/r/MensRights10/12/23 12:34 AM
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Not by other women...
/r/MensRights10/12/23 12:31 AM
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Yes, unless your boss is also a woman. Men might favor attractive women, but women generally turn against them as soon as they have an excuse.
/r/MensRights10/12/23 12:30 AM
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If you're asking for a logical reason, there isn't one. But according to evolutionary psychology, the illogical-but-generally-accepted reason is pretty much exactly what you said. In prehistoric times, the main form of punishment was banishment. You do a crime, you get banished. But as you said, sperm is cheap, but every womb is essential. So to help our groups survive, everybody (men and women) gave women more chances than men, and were more forgiving when women did crimes. Whether that became …
/r/MensRights06/12/23 04:52 AM
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Haha I see from your username that you have some experience in the matter
/r/MensRights28/11/23 01:38 AM
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I have depressive periods every few years, and every one of them is different. I got anhedonia without depression as a teenager and it stuffed my senior year up, but I was fine again in time for college. The scariest part for me was always thinking that the feeling might never go away. I can't make promises, but in my experience, it always does. Spend the bad times preparing for the good times, because they're almost certainly just around the corner!
/r/TheRedPill27/11/23 10:25 PM
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Fair enough, that was a bad example. I guess I meant to make the point that there are plenty of issues where there are both male and female victims, but the female victims get faaaar more support. Focusing on supporting female victims and completely ignoring male victims shows an anti-male bias because it implies that male victims don't matter as much or don't need as much support.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 12:00 PM
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When talking about what other side? In that paragraph I was using the Israel/Palestine conflict as an analogy. The 'other side' is whatever side you don't support (since everyone seems to support one side or another). ​ Only focusing on women is not an anti-male bias. I'd say it often is. Take domestic violence shelters, for example, or homeless shelters. In both cases, male services are often protested and shut down, often being replaced by more services for women (see Earl Silverman or the rec…
/r/MensRights27/11/23 11:33 AM
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You may be right, but on the other hand, if we're not willing to stand up for our beliefs (or at very least, challenge misinformation) on social media, that will seriously impact their visibility. I like to think that, when I challenge a crazy person online, it's not the crazy person I'm trying to convince, but all the people reading along. Buuut that's for days when my mental health is good. Most of the time I don't have the energy.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 09:00 AM
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No worries, I'm not sure why you were downvoted for asking.. As the saying goes, "what is asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."
/r/MensRights27/11/23 07:04 AM
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This one is a classic: https://psycnet.apa.org/doi/10.1037/0022-3514.87.4.494
/r/MensRights27/11/23 06:53 AM
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Thanks for the invite! If I ever join Facebook again, I'll check it out :)
/r/MensRights27/11/23 04:05 AM
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Well they say they do. When it comes to lip-service, women will make all kinds of claims about supporting each other. When it comes to taking action, they're don't seem so motivated. For example, if women watched women's sports as much as men watch men's sports, or if women went to the female-lead superhero movies that always seem to fail (apparently because of male sexism), then two of the problems they regularly complain about would disappear. But I think societal conditioning also has a role …
/r/MensRights27/11/23 04:05 AM
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That would depend on the context. Sometimes it might be to correct an inaccuracy, like if the OP said that women were more at risk of homelessness. Sometimes it might be to make people aware of anti-male bias, like if the OP said that "something must be done about the female homelessness problem" - they're not wrong, but by choosing to focus only on female victims when men make up the majority of victims, they're displaying an anti-male bias which they may be unaware of. Sometimes, it might be b…
/r/MensRights27/11/23 03:51 AM
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Reposting without the rule-violating stuff: Sounds a bit like anhedonia, a symptom of depression. This probably isn't the right sub for this discussion, but since you asked: Depression can be caused by shitty life circumstances, shitty thought patterns, or shitty wiring in your brain. If you used to be a happy, successful guy and nothing traumatic happened to change that, then it's likely you've got the third kind. Through no fault of your own or your environment, you've caught The Big Sad. Wher…
/r/TheRedPill27/11/23 02:27 AM
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I suspect it's for the same reason the general population isn't more supportive - we're taught that men need to be tough and strong and deal with their own problems. While I think there are a lot of ways that this mindset is beneficial, there are also downsides, including being less likely to offer support either to men individually or to as a group.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 02:00 AM
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The result is men supporting men, even if the intention is just to get some entertainment...
/r/MensRights27/11/23 01:52 AM
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In my experience, it is perfectly possible to both be in competition with someone and like them. In fact, I was under the impression that this was one of the 'unproven but generally accepted as folk wisdom' differences between men and women - that men in general welcome competition and conflict as part of their friendships, while women often secretly compete with people they secretly dislike whilst maintaining a friendly veneer...
/r/MensRights27/11/23 01:51 AM
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Such a touching story. I wish I had a brotherhood like that, but for better or worse, all my friendship groups have a slight female bias. Not that I'm complaining about that, but it would nice to have a group of bros, I think.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 01:35 AM
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feminists and women don't think analytically and logically I think this goes a bit too far. There's definitely a case to be made that men and women have different thinking styles and different levels of emotionality, but saying "all women do X" is an over-generalization. If there's one thing we should have learned from online discussions of gender issues, it's that generalizations do more harm than good.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 01:30 AM
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I didn't comment at all, mostly because I couldn't figure out a way to add anything productive to the conversation that was already happening. As for the people who were commenting about male homicide, I don't know what they were trying to do, and unlike the people responding to them, I don't believe I can read minds. It's very possible that they really don't care about men, and they just wanted to shut down a conversation about women. I've met some awful people in my time, including some who tr…
/r/MensRights27/11/23 01:24 AM
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I didn't give an example, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 01:16 AM
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I think it's a fine line. The posts I'm thinking of didn't say anything about male victims. They didn't even overtly say that it's a gendered issue. Everything they said was perfectly correct. The posts/comments were all along the lines of "It's disgusting that this many women have been killed this year!!1". In fact, I'd say that the lack of any mention of men almost felt like it was baiting people to bring it up, just so OP could accuse them of trying to hijack the conversation.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 01:15 AM
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Totally agree. One of the most common pieces of advice is to ignore comments about men not caring about each other because it's hard to convince someone who already has such a jaded view, but I don't like that. On days when my mental health isn't great I'll ignore it, sure. But when I'm feeling up to it, I like to challenge their views, if not to convince them, then to convince the hoards reading along. Either they're right, and men don't care about other men, in which case we need to start cari…
/r/MensRights27/11/23 12:31 AM
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This is actually a terrific answer. "We do talk about men's issues, but nobody listens until we bring it up in the context of women's issues."
/r/MensRights27/11/23 12:24 AM
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Yeah, I saw that in some of the Australia-based subreddits too. Lots of posts about female homicide victims, and anyone who mentioned men instantly got the old "men don't care about men, they only pretend to so they can get away with not caring about women" line.
/r/MensRights26/11/23 04:01 AM
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What other facilities? I'm talking about prison rape, and this is a study on prison rape. As I explained above, underreporting isn't an issue with this study because it wasn't relying on officially reported figures. You said "i highly doubt that 4x figure would stand if men were given the safety to report" but this is exactly what this study gave, and 4x was the figure they came up with. As I said, this figure isn't definitely true, but it's the best I've found yet. But bottom line, nobody shoul…
/r/MensRights22/11/23 06:35 AM
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I agree with you about everything you say except the validity of the 4x statistic. Yes, prison rape is underreported, and staff and society don't care (and are much less likely to care if a man is the victim). However, the article I sent is original research, not a summary of reported statistics. Current prison inmates were interviewed in a confidential setting. Most entered their answers into a computer rather than say them out loud, so they were less likely to lie to avoid shame. 'Ability to r…
/r/MensRights21/11/23 08:22 PM
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Link to the study they mention, if anyone is interested.
/r/MensRights21/11/23 12:34 PM
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Sexual assault in female prison is surprisingly common. According to this article, female inmates are four times more likely to be raped by another inmate than male inmates are. That would surprise anyone, but especially those who believe female prisoners are just misunderstood angels. My theory is this: if you break the law as a man, there's a good chance you're going to prison. If you break the law as a women, there's a good chance the system will be as lenient on you as it can. Thus, male pri…
/r/MensRights21/11/23 11:38 AM
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One the one hand, it's understandable. Most women could easily be overpowered by most men, and media is filled with warnings about how dangerous life is for women. It's very similar to how I assume many men feel when walking past groups of aggressive-looking teenagers. On the other hand, understandable or not, it is a form of prejudice, and not an accurate one. Most men will never overpower an unwilling woman, and most women will never be overpowered. Just because someone is capable of danger, d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/23 02:45 AM
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I studied philosophy once (back before I knew much about 'identity politics') and one unit I took was Feminist Philosophy. Looking back, I'm surprised at how fair and nuanced the class was. We learned about various competing feminist theories, with all their strengths and weaknesses. Some good points were made, and some bad ones too. Just like any other philosophical theory, we weren't pressured into taking a stance, and were encouraged to share dissenting opinions. But that was feminist *philos…
/r/MensRights06/11/23 04:51 PM
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I had a friend once who ended our friendship because I didn't agree that catcalling was morally equivalent to rape and should be legally equivalent too. I spent a lot of time trying to understand her perspective. This is what I came up with. I think she's approaching the situation from a perspective of trauma, either not realizing or not caring that most people won't see the situation the same way. Imagine you're raped, and the assault was preceded by a catcall that you ignored. Nowadays you mig…
/r/MensRights01/10/23 12:00 PM
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I can think of four reasons why that might be the case. The first is sexism, which is everywhere still and which certainly does play some role. But other reasons that I'm sure also play a role are: 1 - As with laywering, reaching the highest position in any career is likely to involve a lot of hard work, often with a lot of unpaid hours. Men are more likely to do that than women. Feminists say that that's because women are given more responsibilities in family life, although apparently recently …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/23 01:26 AM
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Thank you for this. Most women are so caught up in victim mentality that they never stop to think about what men go through, so it's always nice to hear when they do. I'll tell you the same thing I tell any woman who will listen: the biggest thing you can do for men is hold other women accountable. If you hear someone saying "all men are trash" or "kill all men", remind them that if they truly believe that, they're awful, and if they're just joking, their jokes can cause serious mental harm to r…
/r/MensRights26/09/23 12:16 AM
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Your question presupposes that abortion, single motherhood, divorce, and STDs are immoral. Morality is not as straightforward as that. Sure, some people on this sub will agree with you, but others will disagree with you, and there is no way either side can prove the other wrong.
/r/MensRights25/09/23 01:11 AM
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Certain fields have more men than women working in them, including (non-medical) science, engineering, etc., and all the more dangerous jobs. Other fields have more women than men, including medicine, teaching, psychology, and all the more care-oriented jobs. That much is uncontroversial. What is controversial is why this is the case. Feminists will say male-dominated fields exist because too many men make working environments hostile for women, and that female-dominated fields exist because wom…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/23 11:15 AM
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Are you aware that different jurisdictions have different rules around time limits? What applies to you might not apply to others.
/r/MensRights11/09/23 02:39 AM
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I am aware of the research that suggests that people, both male and female, on average prefer to spend time around women rather than men. So gaining more female members might help us gain more additional members of both sexes. But other than that, I can't see how additional female members would help our club in particular. We already have a lot of cultural diversity, but not a lot of political diversity, and the only people who complain every time someone shares a slightly right-wing point of vi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/23 11:57 PM
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I 100% agree. If men like the space as it currently is, then why do we need to change it? Especially when there is no great push for women's spaces to change to accommodate more men. I assume any argument for why we should change would revolve around either 'women are better than men, so men should adapt male-dominated spaces to fit more women in, and should adapt themselves to fit better into female-dominated spaces' OR 'women are victims of society and so we should do everything we can to make…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/23 01:42 AM
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I'm not sure what the gender gap is at our university, but there is a 'women's room' and several clubs I know of that are mostly female. I'm not involved in those clubs so I don't know if there's much push to get more male members, but I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't any, given how asymmetrical concern for gender parity is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/23 01:07 AM
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We don't have social media, but if we did, I would feel hesitant to specifically feature female club members because I don't like the idea of 'tokenizing' anyone. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I'm smart enough to have that conversation without falling over my own proverbial feet...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/23 01:04 AM
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As far as I know, none of the people who have mentioned the lack of female members has a girlfriend. One of them did, but they broke up shortly before he brought up the lack of female members...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/23 01:00 AM
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Haha I wanted to keep it vague, but I guess it doesn't give away too much to say that it's a debating club.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/23 12:58 AM
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I would uncomfortable authorising her to organise women-only events without also organising men-only events. And if I did that, I doubt many men would show up, because as you said, guys in their early 20s always have 'meet new women' fairly high up on their priorities list.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/23 12:57 AM
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I agree that culture is probably the reason the club is male-dominated. Specifically, the aspects of culture that have caused the 'male loneliness epidemic'. I'd say that at least half our members come along because it's a fun, welcoming environment and they don't have much else on their social calendar.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/23 12:55 AM
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True. Most of our members are men in their early 20s, so they probably would like more girls around.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/23 12:49 AM
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We don't exactly 'have it to ourselves' - there has only ever been one event with zero women. But the university does have a 'women's room' and bunch of clubs that are female-dominated, and I doubt those clubs are too worried about not having enough men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/23 12:48 AM
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Is it a metaphor for something you'd want done to someone you love?
/r/MensRights19/08/23 06:32 AM
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Interesting proverb. I was with you up to the part about burning coals.. I always liked the 'love thy enemy' stuff in Christianity, but this doesn't quite seem to fit with that.
/r/MensRights19/08/23 05:53 AM
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What does your way of handling things look like?
/r/MensRights19/08/23 12:29 AM
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Short answer: not many people want big families, I guess... Longer answer: I think it's because of advertising. Pretty much every aspect of pop culture relies on advertising to fund it, and advertising relies on people prioritizing short-term pleasure over long-term happiness, so pop culture constantly encourages people to do that. I doubt there are many things in life as rewarding as being part of a large, loving family, but it's so much easier to buy temporary satisfaction in the form of unnec…
/r/MensRights18/08/23 04:43 AM
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I can understand worrying about asking too many or too few questions. My advice would be that the number of questions you ask won't make most guys uncomfortable, but your motivation behind the questions might. For example, if you're asking questions because you're trying to figure out if the guy is making good money (or is likely to make good money in the future), that will make the guy feel like he's being auditioned. But if you're asking him about his interests because you like him and want to…
/r/MensRights18/08/23 02:34 AM
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My goal in life is to eventually have a big, loving family, so there are a few things I think are important in a partner: 1) Someone who will consider the relationship a partnership, not just two people living together. We will share everything, and we will work together towards our common goals. No separate finances (I don't understand why you'd marry someone if you don't trust them enough to combine resources) and no 'equal splitting of household chores regardless of who works more', both of w…
/r/MensRights18/08/23 02:06 AM
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Realistic answer, I think it's because people are too afraid of saying anything negative about women in case it comes across as sexist.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 07:55 AM
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Have you been dating since before you lost the weight? If so, it's possible she doesn't want you wearing clothes that show off your new physique, just in case you start getting a lot of attention from girls, which could lead to your self-esteem jumping up and a sudden rebalance of power in the relationship.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 04:59 AM
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Female circumcision is also done for primarily religious reasons, but few think that that should be allowed. Personally, I don't think any non-essential surgery should be performed on a minor, but once they're adults, they should be free to do it if they want to.
/r/MensRights16/08/23 04:46 AM
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I had a similar experience to you, although mine has a happy ending. I saw a therapist provided by work, and she was exactly as you said: I didn't have a good relationship with my mother (not quite as bad as yours though) but she wouldn't stop telling me to reconnect, and at one point called me ungrateful. She was around the same age as my mom, so there was probably some projection going on. So I saw a different therapist, and this one went too far in the opposite direction. My mom was dealing w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/23 12:00 AM
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Bottom rung of the ladder in what regard? Depending on how the voting system works where you live, voting might be even more beneficial than you realise. Outside of America, most democracies use a ranked voting system that makes third parties a lot more competitive. In Australia, for example, third parties control 18 out of 76 seats in one house, and 16 out of 152 seats in the other. Not heaps, I know, but even if you voted for a party that didn't get a seat, your vote still gets counted towards…
/r/MensRights03/08/23 06:49 AM
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I'm not from America, but based on my limited understanding of the system there, there is a point in voting for a third party if you don't like the main two. Yes, the person you vote for has no chance of getting in, but if there's a big uptick in voters for a particular third party, the big two notice and start catering their policies more towards that crowd to try to win voters back. So it does help :)
/r/MensRights03/08/23 04:54 AM
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I wouldn't say any of these are persuasive. The first, despite the title, doesn't actually support your argument. It points out some differences in parenting styles, and gives some examples of good dads and bad moms, but never claims that men are objectively better parents in general. The second was very interesting, as it showed that men with more traditionally masculine traits make better fathers. However, it said nothing about men being objectively better parents. The third said that men enjo…
/r/MensRights01/08/23 05:59 AM
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Men are objectively better parents Not saying I disagree, but do you have a persuasive source for this claim?
/r/MensRights31/07/23 04:03 AM
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Sorry, but when your source is a YouTube video, you're not likely to convince many people. Especially not when it's over an hour long.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/23 02:32 AM
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the research shows that it is the men who are most likely to dismiss male victims of abuse Source?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/23 11:04 PM
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Don't worry about it! Most native English speakers wouldn't have heard of the word either. It isn't popular in left-wing circles because it doesn't demonize men, and it isn't popular in right-wing circles because it acknowledges power structures...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/23 11:28 AM
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Have you come across the word 'kyriarchy' before? It's like a more robust version of the patriarchy, which in common parlance at least, is a way of describing society based on gendered power structures. Kyriarchy acknowledges that gender isn't the only power structure, and isn't even the main power structure. All sorts of power structures exist, and each individual is subject to different power structures to different extents in different parts of their life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/23 08:59 AM
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People learn that the Nazis used bad science and ignored good science. They never learn that people today do the same (except for religious extremists, I suppose), and they certainly never learn that they probably do it themselves. As for my strategy, I mainly focus on promoting anything (but especially scientifically verifiable facts) that I think would improve the world if it was more well-known. I haven't read Noam Chomsky, but if you think it would suit my strategy, I'll check him out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/23 12:13 AM
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I wouldn't say we have a 'surplus of people who recognise these facts'. I work in science and I would be very surprised if many of my colleagues knew about this, let alone laypeople.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/23 12:08 AM
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Unless you're saying we've already reached the necessary percentage, I'm not sure how this means that a paper proving one of our points is unimportant.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/23 01:22 AM
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Yes, we do need a study to show this. Most people would be unaware that this happens, and they definitely wouldn't believe that they themselves would do it. Showing that the average person is not just capable of suppressing science, but actually likely to do so if it disagrees with their political opinions, is the first step towards getting them to stop doing that...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/23 10:10 AM
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Borat's *cousin. Poor chap is a world-leading expert on the brain, but all anybody outside of academia knows is that he's Borat's cousin.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/23 10:06 AM
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This is very similar to what I was looking for. Not the same paper, but similar findings. Thanks!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/23 10:00 AM
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I guess I'll just have to make my fortune before getting married, then... Sigh.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/23 04:29 AM
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I want to marry because I want a family and I (where I live, at least) a cohabiting couple is treated as legally identical to a married couple, so why not? If anything, marriage is safer because you can do it with a prenup. I think prenups are an absolute must for anybody getting married nowadays, especially blokes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/23 04:09 AM
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In that case, I suggest you join the gym and work out there for half an hour every day. Yes, your days already sound full, but you will sleep better and study better once you're working out regularly. It will take some time to adjust to, but once you're adjusted you'll feel way better.
/r/MenSupportMen08/04/23 12:42 AM
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I've been dealing with the same issue for years, and the solution I've found may or may not work for you depending on other things in your life. First up, you said uni not college, so I assume you're not American, thus probably don't live on campus, thus probably have transit eating up a significant portion of your time. If there is a gym either near your house, your uni, or the route you take between them, join it. Stop there for half an hour, no more or less, every day on your way to/from clas…
/r/MenSupportMen01/04/23 10:33 PM
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People in the MRA movement are as varied as people in the Feminist movement, so you'll probably get a wide variety of answers. Mine is that you don't need to feel bad about being scared - it's natural to be scared of someone bigger than you, especially if you've had bad experiences in the past. Don't assume that men are bad because they're scary, but don't blindly trust everyone either. From my perspective, the most positive thing a person involved in both feminism and men's rights can do is kee…
/r/MensRights02/03/23 01:29 AM
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Next time she pulls the old "opinions can't be wrong" hit her back with the "opinions can't be right either" and finish her off with "so maybe don't state your opinions as if they were facts Margaret".
/r/MensRights22/02/23 05:01 AM
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You've been dating her for 2.5 years and you're ready to propose. You probably already know your GF pretty well. Does finding out this new information really change anything? Especially the things you love about her?
/r/MenSupportMen22/02/23 04:55 AM
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I did, but without referencing the guy I was looking for. I did find a new guy who has published a few papers on the topic recently: Zac Seidler. His article Men in and out of treatment for depression was particularly helpful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/23 10:54 AM
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I think that's the guy, thank you!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/23 10:35 PM
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So not quite 'almost half' but still a significant proportion. And it wasn't just about sexism, because the vast majority of accusers were women too.
/r/MensRights24/01/23 10:08 PM
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And it wasn't just women accused of witchcraft. Iirc almost half the people put to death were men.
/r/MensRights24/01/23 04:25 AM
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Why even prostitution (buying OR selling) illegal in the first place though?
/r/MensRights29/12/22 07:16 AM
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Bro you straight up made me cry. Thanks.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 07:12 AM
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Thanks for the detailed explanation. I guess I was thrown off by the fact that she kept saying 'not all men'. I'm so used to people not bothering to distinguish between good and bad men, and often getting angry when you try to do so, that I guess I assumed she was being reasonable everywhere. But you're right, even in the most generous interpretation, this post is divisive and perpetuates stereotypes that absolutely wouldn't be accepted if it were about race/religion/anything except gender.
/r/MensRights28/12/22 12:08 AM
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I suppose she is, hey.. Thanks :)
/r/MensRights28/12/22 12:04 AM
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I can go anywhere I want in public and expect to be regarded as a human being, and not an icon of fear or an imminent threat. I had never thought about it that way before, but yeah, I realize that I do worry every time I walk past a women, especially if she's alone, that she's going to be afraid of me. I'm a big guy, but I try to make myself smaller when I pass women on the street. My mental health isn't all that good, and I wonder how much of that is due to constant worry about not being percei…
/r/MensRights27/12/22 11:56 PM
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Did she do that though? She specifically said 'not all men' several times. That said, if you were to point out that black people commit more crimes per capita than white people and used that to justify white people beings cared of black people, you would be called a racist... Thanks, now I don't know what to think.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 02:40 AM
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I don't want to be 'that guy' but can someone explain exactly what's wrong with this? My understanding of crime statistics is that men are more likely to be both victim and perpetrator of most forms of violent crime (the only exception being sexual crimes). The problem I have with the feminist rhetoric around all this is that they tend to focus on female victimhood (ignoring the part about men being the main victims) treat sexual crimes as being somehow worse than other forms of violent crimes (…
/r/MensRights27/12/22 02:34 AM
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I agree. I'm not saying all that to say that it's OKAY, I'm trying to explain how the little wheels are turning in the mind of the person making those statements. It's just like when people use 'incel' as an insult, because a primary way that those people interpret a man's value is by how much sex he can get.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 12:41 PM
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Hot take, but I think it's because men and women have naturally different libidos, with men's being significantly higher on average than women's, and with men having a higher drive to sleep with multiple people. So if a guy cheats on his partner, the likely reason is that her libido couldn't satisfy his needs. Doesn't look great on either of them, but her lower libido is not something that makes her different from most women. But fellas, if your girl cheats on you, something else is up. Is your …
/r/MensRights24/12/22 01:19 AM
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As someone who has seen a number of counsellors and psychologists over the years, that happens. You get some who are a poor fit for you, and you get some who are absolute duds who probably should change careers. Don't discount female therapists entirely. Most of the therapists I've connected with best have been male, but one female therapist I saw many years ago was absolutely life-changing.
/r/MenSupportMen29/11/22 10:28 PM
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Me too, and probably most others here. DM or comments, whatever you prefer.
/r/MenSupportMen29/11/22 10:23 PM
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I'm from Australia too. I agree that people aren't as radical here as in the US, but they can still get pretty radical. For example, I've lost feminist friends on two unrelated occasions because I disagreed when they said that wolf-whistling should legally be considered rape. I didn't disagree that it was bad, or even that it was a form of sexual assault - I only disagreed that it should have the same legal punishment as forcing someone to have sex with you. On another occasion a friend I got al…
/r/MensRights28/11/22 02:43 PM
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The ideal feminist might be as you described, but the average feminist is more like what OP described, at least in my experience. The vast majority of people on this sub want equality for all. Very few people here have a problem with women. Most of us just don't like how society treats women's issues as somehow more serious than men's issues, and how often people who care about men's issues are condemned for being misogynist simply for not being pRoUd FeMiNiStS.
/r/MensRights28/11/22 08:38 AM
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If you're feeling cheeky, pick a men's issue that nobody talks about much, then present it to her as if it were a women's issue. You: 'Babe, did you know that 95+% of work deaths are women?' Her (probably): 'Of course I knew!' You: 'Why is nobody talking about this?' Her: 'Because society hates women and doesn't care when they die.' You: 'Is that the only possible explanation?' Her: 'Yes.' You: informs her that she has been bamboozled and that MEN are the ones dying at work while society ignores…
/r/MensRights27/11/22 12:41 PM
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Chad
/r/MensRights26/11/22 12:55 PM
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Woah there bud. I don't think she's saying she's not going to support men's right because it's not socially acceptable. I think she's saying she wishes it was acceptable because it's hard going against society, even when it's the right thing to do. If it was more acceptable, we'd have more allies.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 11:32 AM
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I just found that channeltoo! She's great xD
/r/MensRights22/11/22 11:17 AM
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Or it could be that she's still attracted to the guy despite what he's done, so she makes up convoluted excuses for herself to keep sleeping with him. Either way it's a bit of a red flag.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 07:19 AM
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Here is an article by the New York Times that summarizes a bunch of research that indicates that women are more likely to slut-shame than men. It links to the original research papers, if you're interested in them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/22 06:18 AM
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