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That BS. If you as a guy became sufficiently attractive/exciting to women you interact with there is nothing that prevents you interacting with more women. There isn't a group of men preventing you from talking to women!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:18 AM
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That's like men asking dating advice on incel sub. Everything comes down to self responsibility. If you can tolerate a bad relationship for 21 years, you should seek some more professional help. Unless it wasn't actually only bad and there were plenty things you liked just choosed to ignore them until you couldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:30 PM
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And it's your choice to associate their statements and worries to a normal cold approach vs. a dude honking, yelling and being totally socially inept.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:28 PM
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I approached my GF as she was walking across the street with headphones on. I've approached plenty women when they were walking somewhere. The worst that has happened is a cold "No" as she walked without stopping or generally acknowledging my existence. So? Who gives a shit. As long as I don't go harrasing her, I'm not doing anything wrong. Just move on to the next one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:14 PM
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BS! When they say that stuff they automatically assume that they either wouldn't be attracted to stranger approaching them or that he would be creepy/harrasy... both being true majority of the times they are approached. However, you have to take into account the the men who approach the most are the bum types or the dudes driving in a car, staring and telling "baby hop in, I can drive you somewhere", etc. Normal dudes are often too scared to cold approach so cold approaching gets associated with…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:57 PM
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I think most people would put those as synonyms.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:59 PM
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So being a cuck is not a fetish?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:56 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:44 PM
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Women are just used to hide their fetishes because it's very easy to get slut shamed by men and other women. And the fetishes tend to be about the power dynamic instead of specific body parts like it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:19 PM
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You can still be a simp even if she is fucking you. There are plenty guys who can't afford to be sugar daddies who try to be sugar daddies. Dudes who go into dept for pussy are very much so simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:03 PM
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Every time you get in a car or a public transport you risk your life, doesn't stop you from doing. I guess the reward is worth it to you. This is no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:59 PM
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Well, I can get women agree with me for things they usually deny. I would say you need a decent understanding of how a person works to have them admit things they have been conditioned to deny.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:21 PM
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It's doesn't take effort to stand your grand, you just don't do anything besides stating whatever you already stated again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:39 PM
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Sure, I can't read peoples mind. But can you point out where I'm wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:21 PM
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The stats show most people hate the dating industry. Most people are incompetent. What's new? With women actually reporting more dislike towards it then men do. They get either the basic "I just want to be your friend (until I will get a chance to fuck you)" or "hey, baby, come fuck or you are a whore and a bitch" or "PUA overload dude who lies to get sex". Of course they will dislike it. It’s only time until cold pickups don’t work either dude to the inflated sense of ego they got from online i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:22 PM
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Of course I'm a dude. "I write like a woman" that's funny lol. Just because I understand how women operate and thus can symphatize with their world view, doesn't mean I am one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:50 AM
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And some other percentage of them is going to go hysterical and call you out as a "harasser" Women who go hysterical after they have heard your desires are usually the ones who really want to reciprocate but need to pretend to be offended to avoid being called a slut. If you just stand your ground, they'll suck your dick eventually. And if you actually aren't harrasing anyone (trying to interact with them after rejection), you don't have anything to worrie about. anything from bystanders looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:37 AM
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If fives aren’t attracted to fives, sixes to sixes, etc, and if they aren’t happy and content with each other This is were you are mistaken. To properly asses whether she is attracted to you, she first needs to interact with you. You can NOT take online statistics as a fact about real life situations. It's simply doesn't work that way irl. Men can quite reliability rate their attraction towards someone based on pictures, women can't. To women the interaction, the sparks or whatever is everything…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:55 AM
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In my language the only interpretation of dating is to be going on dates. Whether you are going on dates with one person at a time or multiple is up to your preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:44 PM
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I guess i'm just used to taking women to my place instead of going to their place. Maybe that's the secret to avoiding that kind of drama lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:50 PM
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You got to be prepared to deal with some drama Drama from casual sex? Huh? Unless it wasn't as casual as you say it was...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:19 PM
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An effective strategy would be, if you don't want to be used for casual sex, don't have casual sex See this is where the basic mistake is made. Women do not want to be used for casual sex, that is true. But that doesn't mean women don't want to engage in casual sex. Women love the excitement of a strange man who has come into their lives and starts seducing them. They just don't want to get their feelings hurt. So if you promise the excitement without the hurt feelings (proper casual sex where b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:43 AM
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And, again, you just demonstrate your lack of understanding on this topic. There are a lot of frustrations men experience that you are blind to as a woman. The frustrations are unique for each men but have a similar theme. The best thing for you would be to watch those documentaries where already butchy women try on the role of the male - the approacher, the pursuer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:29 PM
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You just fail to realize what an education about seduction would entail. The nasty behavior isn't effective. It's simply the best an average man can come up with. They don't realize the effect their behavior has on women. When you have an incredible lust for someone your mind starts to warp things in favor of the outcome you want. The fumbling and nastiness is born out of desperation. You kind of know that what you are doing isn't effective but you literally can't even think of things you could …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:15 PM
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Have education about seduction and sexual relationships (in all forms - short, long, promiscuous, monogamous) be normalized. The reason you have all those bad experiences is because majority of men haven't received proper education on how to talk to women and express their desires. They are simply incompetent. But having lack of information isn't really their fault. Women often discourage men from learning how to seduce women. It's the same problem as with money in schools. Schools don't teach y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:39 PM
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I'm not sure that there can be any kind of meaningful relationship development between two people without developing a rapport. That has nothing to do with getting to that point. Rapport is a natural byproduct of a relationship. You don't build it TO get a relationship. It builds up as a relationship progresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:18 PM
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Who said you need to build rapport?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:09 PM
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What's the reason you wanted to match with them? Talk about that. It's stupid simple actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:03 PM
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If men are desperate, why do you blow it? They are desperate because they blow it. And they don't know how to not blow it. Don't mistake incompetence with malice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:56 PM
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I will never reject a woman for being a woman, only if she was a slut, come on mate. I love had it went completely over your head. All women are "sluts" waa my point. Slutty desires = female sexual desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:35 PM
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What, women are actually not repulsed by men but they need to say that they are, what? Women are not repulsed by an immidiate offer to have sex. But they have to tell they are because otherwise they would appear as sluts and be shamed. So, when you go on tell women exactly what you desire, it's normal to have theatrical response as she calls you a disrespectful pig or whatever. But if you just keep calm and stand your ground, they calm down and are like "actually, that was really sexy the way yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:14 PM
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This is goes with my point. We don't need to put out much effort at all because women throw themselves at us. And that was point. They aren't throwing themselves at you because of your sex appeal. They are throwing themselves at you because of your relationship appeal. Could be both? Yes. Just because you have relationship appeal doesn't mean you have much sex appeal or that you don't have it. You could have both. And just because you have sex appeal doesn't mean you have or don't have relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:43 PM
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women are also repulsed by men who only want sex from them The thing is they aren't. They just need to say they are. so that they can reject such men and move on But that choice should always be given. no matter what women shouldn't lie about their past, we have every right to know. That is also true. However, men tend to shame a lot. If the men who care about tgat and are looking for their virgin unicorn could just take that info and silently move on, women would be much more open. But they don…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:28 PM
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Two equally charming and physically attractive men standing next to each other but one is a leader of men, business owner or something similar, and the other is a janitor which man do you think a woman is going to chase after? Sure. But that rarely the choice. The business guy usually isn't that exceptionally charming and doesn't put much effort in seduction. He also tends to be kind of square. He doesn't talk super dirty to het, he doesn't fuck her like a slut. He makes love to her. Maybe even …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:20 PM
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Well then men should'nt want sex quickly if they fear rejection. No one controls their desires. You can only inhibit whether or not you act on them. But you can't just stoo desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:12 PM
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You cannot actually beleive that if a dirty hobo You example was of hobo who doesn't look like hobo. So normal looking guy without money. good eye contact, a sexy voice and talked dirty to a women he would get laid!?!?!?!?!?!?!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YES!!!!! And it's the funniest thing seeing dudes be so naive and think women are these hard-to-get creatures that require a man power and status. Loooool. You think a high status women is going to be driving her car down the street in San Diego, see a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:01 PM
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So when a women sees me get out of my brand new Mercedes in a nice suit, wearing a big gold Rolex she isn't going to know that I am at the top of the dominance hierarchy? Of course she is. I think you seriously over value how much impact matearilstic things have on women attraction towarss you. Will they act as if attracted? Ohh for sure. Getting a piece of that pie or even just splurged on is worthy it for a significant percentage of women. If you are the lowest ranking member of society and ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 03:42 PM
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men can dismiss her and move on with the type of women they want And that of course is the reason - fear of rejection. The same way men aren't honest about only wanting sex and lying about their intentions. Fear of rejection is a powerful motivator. There is a difference though. The vast majority of women have sluty tendencies. They just hide them. They lie to not be rejected for the basic fact of female biology. Men lie because they want quick sex but don't believe women would reciprocate their…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 03:28 PM
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Are you talking about women who want your money so they are willing to trade access to their sexuality for it? A random stranger you approach on a street/ bar/ coffe shop doesn't know anything about your hiarchy in other social situations. You can be the lowest ranking member in one place and be a total seduction master with a woman in a private, one-to-one setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 03:14 PM
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I get all that. But there are dudes who have been married for years and then find out and get their egos hurt. He was happy in his ignorance, in the matrix. But once he found out he was terrified. I think the best thing to do is stop telling men that women don't want to fuck around. Shaming women for their desires only lead to women hiding their dedires from the shamers (future husband) and showing them to their fuckbuddies. It doesn't actually eliminate the desire. Stop the Madonna/whore distin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:36 PM
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we do talk about dominance hierarchies because it matters in all walks of life. Male dominance hierarchy is irrelevant when talking to woman, especially if she is outside your social circle. And even then, you can be the silent, go-along type socially and be and absolute pussy killer privately.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 11:22 PM
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Primarily desired. If the woman has found an alpha, she would love for him to develop enough of relationship worthy qualities so she could actually build something with him. If the woman has found a beta she would love for him to develop enough sex appeal so she would actually be excited to have sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:32 PM
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Damn you just described my own journey almost to a T. it is all again mostly about the looks, from looks comes confidence and other people liking you, from confidence comes action, from action comes experience The only thing I would dissagree with. Looks are important if it's real shit for you now. If it's avarage, then style can make it just a little bit above avarage. And that's enough to have exceptional results. Confidence comes from taking action. Motion needs energy, so the only way to tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:21 PM
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Sure, we all know
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:25 PM
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Talking about a concept doesn't mean it plays an important role in your life. You can talk about all the intricacies of chickens flying to space and not be bothered by the topic in your regular life. But if talking about chickens flying to space shapes how you interact witg others... and there is a lot of blaming, shaming, name calling, etc involved... then it's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:21 PM
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Huh? Show where I demonstrate concern over my own alpha/beta status?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:57 PM
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That's what promted me to make this post lol. I don't think there is anything wrong with having your fetish. But his reaction to being "exposed" totally showed how he is ashamed of what he liked and that he is very concerned about appearing alpha to his followers. If he would have owned his past, that would be a sign of someone who is actually comfortable in their own skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:55 PM
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Yet there are plenty of "alpha male" RP content creators. And their followers don't see that the king is naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:50 PM
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That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Of course not. Attraction has nothing to do with money, compatability for a relationship does! If you don't have money, women will fuck you but not date you. When a woman seeks a man with money, it's for the sake of a relationship not for the sake of sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:16 PM
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It would be cool to be in cold weathers, freezing on ships, being on the verge of dying a lot of the time, murdering people and raping women? That's what you call fun? Having a woman willingly and happily come to your warm apartment where you have eaten a nice meal and will now fuck her... sound way better to me. We literally live like kings of the past!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 09:36 AM
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I've had chemistry with women I wasn't that into. In particular I remember one coworker. She was so-so but for some reason the interaction always tended to have that "spark" in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 08:46 AM
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What's the point? Is it going to move you closer to fulfilling your desires? Is it going to make her pussy wet when you ask her weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 08:26 PM
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Ok, how would a person directly tell another person they want casual sex with them without being "overly honest" in your opinion? To me overly honest wold mean sharing unnecessary details that are not crucial to the point being made. I don't think my example did that. Quite the opposite - my example showcased communicating ONLY the most important part of the offer, without any unnecessary fillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:30 PM
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I’m a big proponent of communicating directly, an example is: “what you said hurt my feelings, but I’m not ready to talk about it yet.” This communicates the problem (hurt feelings) and the eventual solution (talking about it), and setting the boundary (not right now). That's a fascinating example because I don't see anything direct there. Hurt feelings could mean a thousand different things, so be definition it's vague language. You don't directly say that you want to talk about it, you imply i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:11 PM
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It wasn't a trick question. I gave you the answer in my previous comment lol. I just wanted to see if you comprehend what you approved of. No matter what his desires are, he should communicate them directly, straightforwardly and as smoothly as his personality allows. So if he wants casual sex with Linda, he should let that be know to her with words as quickly as possible without wasting any time. The same goes for the next girl he wants to have casual sex with or have a relationship with. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:44 PM
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Ok, so if his desire is to have casual sex with Linda this Friday and with Becky next Friday, what would you recommend to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:08 PM
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He may end up a virgin, he may not. I can only hope that he’s a good person The best thing you can do is teach him honesty, directness, being straightforward and upfront, etc. - basically good communication skills. Not the kind of good communication that is "a good listener" but good communication as it's relevant to communicating his desires, interested and intentions to others. If you teach him to tell women (and people in general) exactly what he wants and how he wants it, and also be smooth …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:50 PM
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Also ignoring the many women who want a long term casual relationship. Most women don't really care for one night stands, but a fuckbuddy or fwb? A lot will be perfectly happy to indulge in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:11 PM
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You cant have the same action be objectively moral and immoral It's objectively moral or immoral regards to the specific standarts. Standarts do change. It's like law. We all agree what the law is. And once that is agreed upon, we can make objective evaluations on whether or not a specific event is or isn't lawful. The law is objective. So is morality, it's just not written down. It's like objective and absolute truth. We can posses objective truth - it's the one we all agree upon. We can't poss…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:10 AM
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If you disagree with a god given morality, then everything can be moral. No. Moral arguments are fallacious because they it will forever be subjective. So, by your own definition, not god given. North Korean dictarors are moral in their actions as they enslave an entire country and kill anyone who disagrees. Their actions are objectively been decided to be immoral by all the people they kill and our western bystander standarts. Slavery is moral if the mighty decide to legalize it again. It will …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:02 AM
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thinks he has a truly novel viewpoint I don't. I think it's logical not novel. I personally don't think slavery in itself is morally wrong. So I will be your new owner and you don't have a say in it. If slavery is not wrong, you should think that being my slave is not wrong either. Objective morality exists independently of human thought btw. No. There is no evidence that any moral though can exist outside of a human mind. We barely have evidence of a thoughs as such outside of human mind. The c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:19 PM
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You’ll be shocked to hear that most women think most men are ugly. When asked to evaluate and be blunt about it, sure. But most women aren't evaluating men all the time. Most people around are simply other members of the society. You simply don't care about them, don't think about them, don't really notice them. From that mass of greyness some men stand out. Is it easier to stand out when you are tall and handsome? Sure. But an average man can also stand out. Easily. Just approaching her and bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:02 PM
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It is. Because his attitude isn't normal. That's not how other people see the world. Most people simply don't care about others, he thinks others are ugly. It's his view of others that's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:50 PM
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Just wow... Could it not be possible that what's really ugly is your personal attitude towards others?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:06 PM
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Correct. And when multiple people agrees with each other it becomes objective morality. Your actions now can be judged against the agreed upon mores. It can still be wrong, but it's objective. Just like we now all agree that slavery was wrong. If you don't believe in slavery that means that you have already departed from the morality layed down in the Bible. We as a society have agreed that it's wrong. Now it's objective that slavery is bad and Bible was incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:10 PM
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Mine. And you use yours to evaluate the statement you read... mine, other peoples and also the ones in the Bible. You are not getting your morality from the Bible. You just agree with it (or think you do). You may be influenced by it but your morality is your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:04 PM
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Well I'm more moral than God that's for sure. I would never tell people to keep slaves and teach how to trick slaves into being slaves for generations. I would never incourage murder of thousands of people while keeping their virgins (little girls) for sex slavery. I would never play a sick joke on a person by telling them to kill their own child so he can prove his devotion to me. God as described in Bible is an evil entity capable of forgivness of unspeakable crimes... as long as you worship h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:20 AM
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Well, Jesus says he and God is one. So all the stuff that's in Old Testament is also attributable to Jesus because he is God and God is a horrible, immoral entity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:47 AM
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So are you a non-theistic religious person? How do you choose which parts of the religion to follow? Presumably you don't follow the murder/rape/slave stuff, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:30 AM
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Why though? Especially the religious stuff. There has been so much argumentation about it... and still the only logical position is - until it has been demonstrated to be real, I don't believe it. I can understand that there are preferences about partying and having sex. But the logic stuff should be easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:24 AM
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A man initiating the interaction is what generally happens
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:11 AM
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You go up to her and introduce yourself. Done. She has interacted with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:14 PM
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A man will say "I am easily attracted to 81 of these women" Even without having interected with one. Based purely on looks. A woman will say, "I am only attracted to that handful of super hot guys in the corner, everyone else will have to make up for it in some other way" Based purely on looks. But after interacting with each and every one of the hundred she will find some more that peak her interest. And they won't necessarily be at higher level of looks hierarchy. After interaction, avarage lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 08:44 PM
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Because not everything that is natural is good. It's not a rule for thee and not for me situation. I will argue against shaming sexuality no matter your gender. Shaming is a natural response but there are better responses. Understanding, acceptance, kindness, being open and honest are all much better responses (which are also natural btw).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:32 PM
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I don't see it as normal. It's the result of a lack of shame. The presence of sluty desires is not the result of a lack shame. Taking action on those desires is. That's why there is only a small percentage of women who do take action. The rest are to afraid of the judgment of society. Still doesn't change the fact that they have those dedires. And wanting to eat a whole cake with your hands is a completely human impulse, but most peeps don't need to do it. Sugar is not healthy. Sex and orgasms a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:57 PM
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If you have to eat like a pig to be satisfied, you're a pig. You be a human with an appetite. Lots of those around. Then all women are sluts. Correct. So it's useless to shame them for it. Having sluty desires is a normal part of being a woman. Our mothers, sisters and daughters all have them. Stop shaming them for a completely normal aspect of being alive as a human female.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:46 PM
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So is being hungry but you don't need to eat like a pig to be satisfied if you do, you're a pig. Most don't. Just as most aren't "sluts". Very profound. Thank you. To varying degrees though not every human is equally freaky. Very profound. I don't care to see a sluts true self. What would I stand to gain from that? Again, most women have the same desires as sluts. They are just better at hiding them. If there is 1% of real true, religious prude good girls and 1% or sluts who fuck around with new…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:36 PM
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They are women. Having wild sexual desires is part of being a human. Some humans are women, some men. All have their own freaky side. Who sees that freaky side, depends on a lot of things. Just because the good girl hides her freaky side from you doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But you want to know why she hides? To avoid being called a slut. So stop calling women sluts (in derogatory way) and they will be more likely to show you their real self.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:22 PM
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As dude who has been fucking a lot of the so called good-girl, I'll tell you they are just as freaky as the so called sluts. They just care much more about their reputation and public perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:16 PM
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And that's where you are wrong. You have the blue pill belief that there is this class of women who are pure and untainted. You dehuminize them stripping them of raw human desires for wild and exciting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:06 PM
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Madonna/whore is a binary. Either you a good girl or a slut. It's the seperation between the two that's false. Only a tiny percentage are actually either Madonna or a whore. The vast majority of women good girls publicaly, sluts privately. Meaning it's a false dichotomy. It's a false distinction. Most women want to be fucked like sluts and be respected for their opinions SIMULTANEOUSLY.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:56 PM
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Again you are describing a small minority of women. You attribute a description of a tiny subset to the whole category.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:43 PM
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And how many women you just accurately described there? Percentage wise less then 1%...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:33 PM
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Be fun. Yes. You need to have fun shit that you're doing and you're talking about. You need to willing to spend money and have ideas of fun shit to do. No. Fun and excitement can be produced by the interaction itself. If I go up to herand tell her I'm interested in fucking her in her favorite position, it immidiately gets her attention. The interaction is emotionally charged even if she rejects me. And if she doesn't reject me and likes how I talk to her, I didn't have to spend money or had to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:23 AM
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Yet somehow I didn't get any pussy until I fixed my attitude...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:58 AM
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I know around 100 short guys who offer literally everything women say they want Looooool. And you wonder why they get shot down? Haha. Only a desperate man offers what women say they want. A confident man offers what HE wants to offer. It's a huge difference and women can immidiately sense it. And, actually, women want a confident man who knows what he wants and goes for it. So by definition the 100 guys who try to offer what they think women want, aren't doing that...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:50 AM
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like why tf does that happen? To avoid slut shaming, obviously. Plenty men with Madonna/whore complex. That directly incentivize women to say they are Madonnas publicaly while actually expressing their real sexuality privately. Men with Madonna/whore complex just make women hide their sexuality from them. Simple!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:21 AM
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I don't think you understood me at all lol. Here is a definition: pump-and-dump "denoting the fraudulent practice of encouraging investors to buy shares in a company in order to inflate the price artificially, and then selling one's own shares while the price is high." Pumping and dumping is about misleading others to get what you want and leave. In sexual context - lie about wanting a relationship, leave after getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:54 PM
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Why would that matter? The depth of the relationship doesn't have any bearing on whether the sex was happening (pumping) and whether one of the parties ended what was perceived as a relationship by the other (dumping). Let's say I have an on/off fuckbuddy for 10 years. Do I pump and dump her anytime we stop having sex? What if she is the one who makes it stop? Is she pumping and dumping me every time she makes it stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:44 PM
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So is being in a year long relationship also pumping and dumping since there was pumping and the person now has been dropped?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:28 PM
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That's just pumping, promiscuity, fucking around, etc. Again, you can't dump someone who doesn't think they are in a relationship with you. That's like quiting from a job you don't work at.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:15 PM
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No. Pumping and dumping is when a man lies about his desire to have a relationship and dumps the woman after sex. If a relationship wasn't promised/implied it's impossible to dump. Then it's only pumping without the dumping. If I tell a her straight up that the main and primary reason I'm talking to her is to have sex with her, she has no expectation of a committed relationship. So no dumping.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:09 PM
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save your f-boy spiel for the next girl you’re planning on pumping and dumping Pumping and dumping is only possible if you promise/imply a relationship. I don't do that if I don't actually feel it. If you reduce your investment in a relationship to one aspect. Then that’s all that relationship is about. I didn't say it wasn't. But just as I don't describe my friends as tools for emotional support or whatever, I also don't describe the people I sleep with or do any other activity with as tools.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:57 PM
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No. My my employees aren't "tools for monetary gain to be discarded at will". My friends aren't "tools for laughter generations to be discarded at will". For different people in different situations you have different expectations and investment levels. That doesn't reduce them to the most basic and plain function they serve in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:31 PM
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No it's not. If someone tells me that they are setting a boundary on our relationship to be just friends, it's my own choice to stay in close proximity of that person and be available to them. By doing that I signal to them that I have accepted the terms of our relationship - i.e. I signal to them that I too want to be just friends with them. So how is it suprising that I get some kind of a friend treatment? If I actually don't want to accept those terms but choose to hide that fact and pretend …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:00 PM
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As time goes on you standarts (should) improve. Now I wouldn't even consider some of the girls I've slept with. But my game was weak back then. I've improved quality wise but not quantity (have been getting into longer term relationships). A simple rate, add, divide wouldn't be accurate at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:44 PM
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That the stupidest thing I've heard. I've seduced playboy style women by spending nothing, not even a cent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:34 PM
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It would likely come up with something like communism unless it somehow understands that people need individual self expression and autonomy for which the conformity of socialistic ideals are a direct opposite. Considering that there are plenty humans who can't get that in their head, I'm not optimistic an AI would develop the humanity to understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:00 PM
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You don't have to invest holistically in the relationship for it to not be "a tool for sexual satisfaction". It's an unnecessarily reductionist description. Is earth a rock with water flying through space? Sure but it's also a million other things and can be described in beautiful sentences filling up book shelves in libraries. Sex between two people can be plain and can be very passionate. And both variations can happen in a relationship and between strangers. Interestingly if you look at what …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:15 PM
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they view men the same way men view them: disposable tools for sexual gratification. Except that's a misconstrued way of "men's view". Just because I like multiple women, can get aroused quickly and like to have sex without wasting time on conversations I'm not interested having... doesn't mean I view women disposable tools for sexual gratification. That's like saying pets are disposable tools for comfort. Technically, sure. But using descriptions that on purpose suck out the emotion and beauty …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 04:32 PM
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A woman consented to the pleasurable sensations of sex but didn't consent to having another body take her bodily resources. A child is in the situation of being dependant on the womans bodily resources to no fault of it's own. If a person isn't conseting to another organism living of their bodily resources, they can and and should have the right to opt-out of the situation. Did the baby asked for it? No. Did the woman asked for it? Also no. It's just an unfortunate situation. A seperation of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:25 AM
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A man who is mostly being valued for his dick feels goods about himself (as long as at least someone values her for utility). Being valued for utility is good but it doesn't feel nearly as great to a man as being valued for dick. Women are the opposite and generally value utility in a man more than sex appeal. Like sex appeal is great but it doesn't add muchbto the stability of child raising. And a woman who is mostly valued for her utility feels good about herself (as long as at least someone v…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:57 PM
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BS. It's just as easy as with any other girl. With hoter girls you'll just have a higher rate of rejections. But the actions are exactly the same. The female biology in what makes her attracted to someone doesn't change much. Their standarts and what is deemed "good enough" does change.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 08:46 PM
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That's exactly itm I'm not talking about bigness. Takin in a lot of colories isn't the hard in a world were there are so much rich food. It's the leanness, plus muscle size... that's like fuck off with that effort lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 06:51 PM
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Because more buzzwords explain the concept?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 06:45 PM
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Sure, but look at his picture. To get that body you have to be super restrictive on your diet and be a gym rat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 06:40 PM
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That work put in, damn... I would have to be really really lonely to put in that effort for pussy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 06:21 PM
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I'm a man myself lol... And sure men can dislike it. And if you dislike it, you change in such a way that minimizes your chance of receiving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:10 PM
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Societal: A woman hits a man, no one reacts. If he hits back, white knights swarm. Yes, hypocritical. Mental: Most geniuses are men as well as inventions. Historically most opportunity has been in male hands as well. But no matter what you being or not being naturally talanted with genius has nothing to do with hypocrisy. Look at stats. Please provide stats that make the conclusion that you did. I hear your opinion. Well plenty women would agree. And if at base a male is evaluated by how many wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:08 PM
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It's still just a rejection. People are allowed to reject you... even by using more palatable terms than just "no". If you don't like that response, change yourself not others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:02 PM
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I put different standards on men and women because they are inherently different. Sure but not in the way you present. Women like when the differences favor them (don't hit a girl, white knighting, simping, low expectations ie you throw like a girl) but whine like crazy when they don't. Physical strength aside, that is hypocrisy and it's worth calling it out. A man that had 50 partners can still be a good parent and faithful spouse. A woman that did is not. Don't know you can prove that assertio…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:52 PM
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I never said anything contrary. If you want casual sex then husband material is not something you want to appear as. If you are specifically looking for a wife then it's a good thing. Women also usually mean it as a good thing. If you both are looking for the same thing, it's best thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:47 PM
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You can look at it as a negative trait, sure. So change YOURSELF in such a way that you don't trigger the response you don't want. Don't blame the people who are responding to what you are putting out there. They are allowed not find you appealing or consider you appealing for something they sre not ready yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:41 PM
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Hypocrisy is about actions, not what you have. If you don't follow the standarts you put on other people that is called hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:38 PM
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because it actually means a rejection, that has nothing to do with if being rejected is allowed or not Lol. Them being allowed to reject you means you should be fine with it. You can't control it. It's her choice. You accept her choice and move on. If you bitch about it that means you are suggesting she shouldn't be allowed to reject you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:35 PM
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So? People are individuals. Just because a lot of flames dissapate, doesn't mean your will or that it's not worth trying. I for fact know that many many get lazy in a relationship and stop seducing their partner (have been there myself). Women find that unsatisfying. That has nothing to do with the status of husband. That's just the complacency men tend to fall in when life is good and we just want to chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:33 PM
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Feelings are fine. But rationalizing scenarios based on those feelings where people wouldn't be allowed to reject you... that's not fine at all. You can have your feelings, just don't put them on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:27 PM
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It's not your place to decide what's best for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:24 PM
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What? 1st, I'm a dude. 2nd, if I was on the bottom of attractiness scale I would accept that fact and try to find a way to be appealing anyways. Offering to fulfill their kinks is an easy to way to be appealing to others. To more specific the kink, the easier it is to be appealing to that person. For example, I have a tongue fetish. A girl would instantly be more appealing to me is that's what she would lead with. I would consider less conventionally attractive options because my kink would be s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:23 PM
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People have all kinds of kinks. Some people like to play with candles, ropes, all kinds of stuff. The more niche you go, the less important your conventional drawbacks become.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:02 PM
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You are allowed to have that preference. But expect others to find it appealing. Also don't shame others for the same things you engage in. If you can have that preference without trying to socially force it... and be completely contempt with other people rejecting it... there is zero problem. Never seen such an example though!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:00 PM
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If you are atleast average in looks then it's more than just possible. If you are below average then casual sex is likely out the window unless you find people with rare specific kinks that you can parttake in - the more targeted your offer, the more appealing it is to the small percentage of people who really really like it. A gf is definitely a possibility though. If you are like a 1 or 2 then - though luck. Focus on money and buy the companionship you seek.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 02:55 PM
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So? 40% have. Also, way more than 60% of single dudes haven't had sex for the last month...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 02:32 PM
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So why don't you makes yourself more appealing to those 19-29. People are allowed to reject you! Unless you want to live in a world where all your female relatives are forced to have sex with incels because those incels are buthurt about being rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 02:28 PM
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And your years of saved up virgin smegma dick smells like paradise, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 02:26 PM
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/badwomensanatomy You must 13 to think that that's how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 02:23 PM
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Sure. As long as you are consistent and don't have a body count yourself, are perfectly happy with waiting it out and don't shame women for not sleeping with you quick enough or at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 02:19 PM
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Again, don't confuse an instance for the category. Just because some husbands don't get nearly enough doesn't mean that being a husband means not getting nearly enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 02:17 PM
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In the cases where that phrase is meant as "im not interested", then I would agree. However people are allowed to reject you as you are allowed to reject them. And what I've seen on thus sub is dudes complaining about getting pussy as a husband not as a fuckbuddy. So they are not being rejected. They get the pussy but complain because other men got it with "less effort".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 02:04 PM
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That's a very small minority. And even in those cases... who cares? If she is healthy and has amazing sex with you, who cares?!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:37 PM
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"You're like a Brother to me!", That's totally different because generally women are not fucking their brothers. They are fucking their husbands though. So the only reason to take "husband material" as offensive is the belief that the husband doesn't get any pussy. Which is patently absurd but also understanble where the idea arises. As there is plenty of talk about "all he wants is sex, I'm tired" or " eww, he is pestering me for sex again" amongst women. But just because some couples have lost…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:16 PM
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I'm pretty sure "fuck whoever YOU WANT, as quickly as YOU WANT" is not the same as "fuck every guy who takes you out even if YOU DON'T WANT it".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:14 PM
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M29, lost it at 20 with the first girl that said yes. Fucked a few times and went on to the next one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 12:11 PM
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Exclusion isn't made through refusal of service. It's made via marketing/wibe/social pressure, etc. The gay bar will not refuse to serve my straight male ass but I have zero interest being there. And if I would go there and would make plenty enough people uncomfortable, they would kick me out for disturbance of peace or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:17 PM
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What? The bar owner gets to decide what kind of audience they want to serve. They can exclude whoever they want. And those who don't find a home where they feel comfortable... have to build one. Every other interest group also started building their place because they didn't find elsewhere. You are not special.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:09 PM
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There was a talk about leasbian bars specifically. I don't think leasbians are complaining about other types of queers being in queer bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:03 PM
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Because the regular bars wouldn't work without men. They are mainstream bars on purpose, for the mainstream (straight) audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 06:56 PM
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Ok, sure, they could be little bit more precise with ther language. Males in dresses. Better now? A lesbian is a lesbian because she is looking for a female. If they set up a place for other females with simmilar interests to congregate and place gets invaded by males (even if they genuinely feel like women), it's obvious why they wouldn't like it. A male is a male and a female is a female. A dick is a dick and a pussy is a pussy. You can't transformer your biology with feelings. A lesbian bar i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 06:32 PM
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Ohh, yes, if you make a place for certain kind of people to gather and that place gets invaded by other kind of people... that must mean that you are afraid/hate that other kind. There is no way you could simply be annoyed that your place was taken over and changed to not be appealing to you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 06:22 PM
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there's thousands of sources of shit that women like??? How??? Because you say that here, anonymously, but to the male who is struggling, you'll say "be nice, don't talk about sex early, listen to her and be good friend first" or some similar shit. Many men don't understand that you want to be respected and fucked like a slut at the same time. And you publicaly denying the second part only adds to the confusion. My best seductions have been me talking dirty to women within first few minutes of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 11:45 PM
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Lol women can sense that but not the wife beater partner or the future rapist Women can sense the qualities of a man (confidence, shyness, etc) not their future actions... A bold, charming man can be a total sweetheart or a serial killer. Both are attractive. Women are often clueless about what they want just like men. Sure. But attraction works on primal level. The basic qualities of a man has the effect there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 03:22 PM
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How it shaming? If anything I'm encouraging him! If he is in a position he doesn't want yo be I tell him to stop involving himself in such a situation, take charge of his life and involve himself only in situations that correspond with what he wants. If such situation doesn't arise, keep searching. Stop blaming, stop whining, start doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 03:10 PM
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I was not "properly taught". I was raised by a single mother. I'm just not a weak pushover who blames everyone else gor their misfortunes. Many men were not. Who cares? The answer still is - get yourself together and be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 02:56 PM
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What? I would say tge exact same thing to a woman who is in a situation she doesn't want to be. It's her choice for involving herself and her choice to stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 02:47 PM
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Are the some poor dudes with so low self esteem they allow others to walk all over them? Yes. Does that mean that any woman would choose to be with them would exploit them? No. And for sure not if they would get their self esteem together and actually become confident and set proper boundaries. If they want to be perpetual victims, they can be. But stopping it is also in yheir power. Women are not forcing them to not have personal growth...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 02:31 PM
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Except - she's not fucking him. Once a month starfish vanilla missionary is NOT "having sex with" him. Then why is he with her? He can choose to not be with someone he is not compatible with and continue his search...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 02:25 PM
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Huh? She is exploiting him by having sex with him and building a life together?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 02:20 PM
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how good do you think the game of other guys is? Most are pushy, scared little boys. They have desires that they want fullfilled and are indirectly very pushy about them but they are too scared actually talk outloud about what it is that they want from the woman. Then comes PUA and the little boys learn to not be as pushy and hint at their desires in a more appealing way. But they are still scared because verbalizing their intentions is a big "no-no". Then there is the common bum, homeless type …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 12:15 PM
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they try to spit game but end up talking themselves out of the pussy This. I've done that myself, plenty times lol. Often it's subtle stuff. Even such a simple thing as having an impatient look in your eyes as you ask a question can be off-putting. That's why having your inner game together is key. Women can sense that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 12:00 PM
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No woman in the history of humanity has starved to death due to divorce please provide a source to this happening even once. Are you dumb? The history of human kind is full with women who have been thrown to the curb. Just like it's full with men who have been thrown in to the meat grinder of war. They should start being appreciative again. Fake it till you make it if you have to. Or maybe never be in a situation of complete dependence so they don't have to fake feelings and be pressured into ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 07:40 AM
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It's very odd of you to suggest they are twirling their mustaches and thinking "if this bitch leaves me she'll have nothing" That's not what I said at all. I said they don't care, meaning their mind isn't producing feelings of care about what's best for the other person. As long as she satisfies his needs, she is taken care of. But if not... The only circumstance where a man has that thought is if she's not being grateful for the things he does And any normal human being understands that at some…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 12:36 AM
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What? You can still meet people in a supermarket...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 11:54 PM
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They want a woman be completely dependant (thus forcefully submissive) while in a relationship and have zero responsibility if the relationship ends. They don't actually care what happens to a person who was depending on them when the codependence ends. They don't care that she is a human being who needs a sense of security about basics things to feel good and function normally. "If she gives me sex I will provide, if sex is no more, she can die tomorrow for all I care."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 11:46 PM
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If you were a guy with standard girlfriend or two in your 20's and then dates a former party girl at 30, its different if you were basically an incel for those years. Its not "people change" its "i'm a sucker". Spot on. However this just shows that the incel position is objectively incorrect. The feeling of "I'm a sucker" is based on their past experiences not on the other persons state of mind. The girl doesn't think he is a sucker and the society also doesn't. It's he who still struggles with …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 10:16 PM
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Casual sex for women is like men paying for sex. What? No, it's not. My past casual sex partners would strongly disagree with you. Women love a good fuck. It's the bad and toxic fucks that make them regret fucking at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 07:50 PM
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Of course you can. It happens all the time. Words don't have meanings, they have usages.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:00 PM
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sleeping with someone i don't like being around. Huh? No one said that. I'm pretty sure no one would like that. It's more about what is the main factor that connects you two. Real friends with benefits are friends who over time started to have sex as a benefit. Most fwb are not that. Most fwb are people who started having sex and enjoy doing so without being tied down to the relationship (fuckbuddies). Also, women tend to call everyone a friend - no matter what the actual status is. That label d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 09:46 AM
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Most people who engage in fwb are not actually friends they are fuckbuddies. The culture just doesn't like the label of fuckbuddies, friends with benefits sound better. But don't mistake it for an actual friendship, they wouldn't hang out without the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 09:33 AM
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The questions on is how do you clasify fwb. Is it casual sex? Most people would say so. Casual sex means sex without dates. If you are going on dates you are implying a relationship mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 07:22 AM
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Casual sex for women and casual sex for men are completely different experiences. Huh? Casual sex is casual sex. If a high N man does not want to date a high N woman because of negative experiences with casual sex, he is absolutely justified in doing so. So he is bad at sex and wants someone who won't know any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:42 AM
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Learn to do a daygame approach (but just the basic approach itself, ignore what they do after it). Learn to hold strong eye-contact and talk with confidence. Be very very direct and straightforward about your desires (ModeOne for further reading). Learn to deal with objections and or shit-tests (mostly by being calm, unphased and repeating your desires). Be patient, give her space to think about whatever you offered her. Be completely ok with rejection. Never, ever chase, harass or try to convin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:03 PM
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If I'm approaching a woman and the reason I'm talking to her is that first and foremost I want to have sex with her (which is - always)... I let that be known as quick as possible. Any man that hides his intentions is blue pill because he doesn't understand the real sexual nature of women, he thinks women need plausible deniability and all that crap. Are there some white lies present in my life? Sure. But not about the important stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:09 PM
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Point being the wife material and gf material distinction is an illusion. People act by how they feel not by what the other person is. There isn't some special way of being that a woman can embody that will make her a wife material. It's just a basic compatability/desire thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:59 PM
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He was in the party/hook up life as a teenager. After that he was with his gf for about 8 years I think. Yeah, she just wasn’t marriage material to him. She would be if she was the girl after her. He was close enough to her to see those traits while most others never will. BS! All girls have "those" traits. There are no unicorns. He simply wanted a change of scenery, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:29 PM
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BS. There is no difference aside from the fact that they are different people. I know a situation just like that. The girlfriend was a very proper girl, not some slut or whatever. They broke up and he married the next one. It was not about her. It wasabout HIS feeling that he wants something new. He didn't want to live the party/hook up life and was ready to settle. But he did want someone new. So that's what he did. It had nothing to do with "subtle differences".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 12:13 PM
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Phones are definitely way cheaper. What's not that cheap is the latest version of phone/mini pocket computer. I think it’s absolutely relevant. It's not, because you made a completely wrong assumption just to throw an emotional punch at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:50 AM
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Technology gets cheaper over time. There was no timeline set in OP. Don't know what my sexual experiences have to do with recognition of technological advances...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:23 AM
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I think you have a little bit of limited imagination. There are plenty of fetishes people feel shame for. A realistic human looking sex toy to enact those fetishes... doesn't sound bad. Even for someone who gets laid frequently. Now make them look like your favorite celebrity who you can experience your favorite fetish with... doesn't sound bad at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:03 AM
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Spending money is a choice. I used to spend absolutely zero and it was completely fine. I just never did dates. I would let her know my desires and deal with objections whatever they might be, then she would come over and we'd fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:13 AM
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OLD isn't how most people meet their spouse. That's shady language trick. No shit. Most people most of the time aren't using OLD. That doesn't mean that many people don't meet their spouse using OLD. Dude, you can find your local prostitutes there and you can find your local virgins who are looking for love. You can't just profile a mainstream activity like that. Also, just because a person has a casual phase doesn't mean that that same person doesn't want a serious relationship. I was fucking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:26 PM
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That's so stupid. She is the same person whether I approached her IRL or whether I swipe on her on Tinder. OLD is very mainstream. It's not a niche thing where only certain kind of people come together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:13 PM
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Actually, a trans person is a very good example of being a slave to your biology. "The biology in my brain is producing incompatible signals to the rest of my bodies biology, I must at least mask my bodies biology with the appearance of the opposite sex because otherwise I don't feel good". We are our biology. You have made the unjustified move of seperating your sense of self, your ego, from the materialistic, biological reality of your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 12:11 PM
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This could be changed by men simply no longer approaching… The egg/sperm is at the core of our biology. All cultural stuff is building blocks on top of the core. Can you completely change how human biology has evolved over millions of years? The best “alpha move” to a woman is to ignore her, plain and simple. Bullshit. The best alpha move is to have an approach and offer that's so strong and appealing that a lot of women genuinely want to partake in it. If men could just stop simping, That's a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:54 AM
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The egg/sperm argument is just a precursor. The concept extrapolates to cultural behavior. Because men are the ones who generally take the role of approaching, they need to approach a competitively large amounts of women for 1 instance of sexual partnership. Women get offered sexual partnerships. Their effort is in making yourself to be more approached - generally becoming more beautiful. In such a marketplace where to goal of a transaction is an instance of sex... mens value grow by external ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:38 AM
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For all of it the root cause is fear of rejection. He fears that if he isn't perceived to be masculine enough by you, you will reject/leave him. So he does everything he can to be masculine and if it gets challenged he feels like he will lose you. The reason he wants to be stronger and in a better position than you is so you would like him. Because men, compared to women, don't how that much inherent value. Women have to be beautiful for me to value them, so insults usually are about age, looks,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:30 PM
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That's children and adults who haven't grown out of their childhood whims. Plenty people have principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:45 PM
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"When I'm winning fuck equality, when I'm loosing please let's everybody be equal"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:43 PM
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If only girls would understand how unattractive filters are though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:35 PM
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Become wealthy and you can pay to have your fantasies fullfilled. That's what sugar daddies and sugar mommas do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:22 PM
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Lol, 5 minutes is not "spending resources". I spend way more time watching movies, playing games and doing other unproductive stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:21 PM
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Lol, you live in a fantasy boy. Do you know how companies make huge money with their products. They make an offer to people via advertising. Do you know how men get to sleep with hundreds of women? They make an offer to them by approaching them and talking to them. Feel free to think every successful person in the world is a simp and only thiefs abd con artists who manipulate people are the real alphas... Who raised you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:46 PM
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In order for women to reject a man, the man must chase. Huh? No he doesn't. He has to make an offer. My offer usually is "I want to see you naked in my bed in the near future". My skills at persuasion and seduction help me deal with her objections to the offer and accept it if she has any baseline attraction towards me. I never chase women. simp who is pissed on by women over and over again by being rejected over and over again A simp tries to avoid rejection by never actually giving an offer th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:59 PM
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Ohh, yes, the person who is so scared of rejection that he is willing to manipulate and con people is not a simp. And someone who doesn't give a fuck about rejection thus tells women exactly what he thinks and desires... is a simp. Cool logic bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:04 PM
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women spend their time chasing sex out of a type of men and resources out of the other type. They don't. The AF/BB is deceiving you. It's not what it means. Women desire sex with an alpha and dedire a commitment with an alpha with beta qualities. They are not seeking BB. BB happen when the dude isn't living up to her hopes. A real BB is a sugar daddy. That is someone a woman is with purely for money. Manipulating is also a skill, and it works. I would feel like a little pussy lying to women to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:47 PM
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Most of the time she just wants commitment from the long term guy. She has sex with him mostly to secure his committment. False. She has sex with him because she wants to have sex with him. That's where the AF/BB concept has skewed your mind. The majority of women in western culture don't get in relationships with men they are not attracted to. They are just willing to get in relationships with men they are not as much attracted to. Let's say you have chance with some supermodel you really fancy…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:14 PM
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But then what if declining testosterone led scientists to want to pursue birth control as a product in the first place 🤔 (I mean kinda silly idea but just spitballing) Nah, sex without consequences is a good enough mativator for that. Also std and abortion prevention, and minimization of parents who give up their baby to the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 07:26 PM
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That's an interesting point. Wish their would be some kind of study/analysis on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 07:12 PM
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I don't think the modern feminism is created by weak men. I think it's created by entitled woke women who use and abuse their female privileges while blaming men for all the misfortunes they have had. I think wokeness and lack of responsibility are the driving factors for it. It easy to be a victim (and get free stuff, preferential treatment, etc) when you can manufacture an enemy, an entity that has abused your kind for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 07:02 PM
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Are you really blaming men for women who degrade men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 06:50 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:36 PM
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If virginity was a preference he should have held himself to the same ludicrous standard My example was that it's not a preference. It's just a coincidence of life that someone who happens to be a virgin is someone who he wants to settle with. Thus convincing a virginnto be with him isn't inherently hypocritical. Only when it's an actual preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:16 PM
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I do agree the man in this example could convince a virgin to be with him. However it would be deceptive and devoid of character which aren’t great ways to start a relationship Why? It would be hypocritical if he preffered a virgin but it's not hypocritical if he gets with a virgin. For the simple reason that it might a situation of "stars aligning". Maybe he happened to be over his previous lifestyle, met her and both are really into each other. It's only hypocritical if he preffers a virgin an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:11 PM
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It doesn't imply that at all. There have been plenty women worth keeping. Some I wanted but they didn't. Some I didn't want but they did. My current GF is pretty cool, time will tell how that will go.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:20 AM
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Maybe you're a "Chad", and you don't realize it. And... As for this Allen Currie guy, he looks like one of the custodians who scrubs toilets in my office building.... Lol, contradicting much? they only talk about their successes, the failures never get mentioned. "Failures" are simply not good stories. She said "no", wow so interesting. I put a failure in quotes because that's not a good way to look at it in the first place. Her rejecting you is not your failure, it's her choice. You don't contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:31 AM
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a lot of them are quite sensitive to rejection True. Learn to suck it up. A direct, non-subtle approach will tend to lead to more of it. False. It will lead to direct, quick rejection not more rejection. Just because you prelong tge time span before rejection, doesn't mean you minimize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 07:59 AM
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Sexuality works in human environment... I never said you can't get laid without being honest. But it's just like - why? If you see the real sexually of women, you will not waste any time and hide your intentions. It's what blue pill dudes do because they think that women don't like it - i.e. they live in the matrix, haven't taken the red pill. Hiding your intentions is a sure way to waste your time on people who are not interested in you but are polite or just want your horny attention. A dude w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 07:45 AM
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BS! I got my girlfriend by telling her I want to fuck her. And I had plenty fuckbuddies before her. I was always honest and straightforward. It's your imagination that's fucking you up. Women love a charming, seductive, kinky man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 07:32 AM
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Presumably, you are also filtering out stuff that might be hurtful but you also deem ultimately unimportant. Of course we filter stuff. We don't recite our experiences in a chronological order. It's pointless to point it out because it's so obvious and universally understood as the baseline. As a man you know exactly what is the the important information. That's why so many choose to hide their actual intentions, relationship status, health status, etc. If you wouldn't know it's important, you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 06:04 AM
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When the person has lost an argument and doesn't want to admit it, they often shift the blame. Typical... spineless.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:35 AM
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Ohh, so because we don't have an absolute knowledge of the universe and every detail of it, means that we can't tell true facts about it? Get the fuck out with that stupid fallacy. I'm honest about what matters to her - my desires/intentions towards her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:30 AM
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The fuck you didn't understand? Women who are attracted to him will listen to him. Women are attracted to me, will listen to me. Etc... Honesty is just the quickest, most straightforward wat to get to the point. Plus it demonstrates attractive qualities such as confidence (which is on the top of the list whenever women are asked). Point being - your point about not being able to be honest is BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:27 AM
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To be fair that's he at his fattest phase. But still who doesn't move away? Women who are attracted to him. Same for me, you or anybody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:14 AM
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I always use this video of ARC as an example: https://youtu.be/L-CZYxUGBko Seems to shut up people lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:06 AM
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My desires/intentions towards her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:02 AM
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Any woman I approach. Average skinny-fat dude. The topic of income has literally never come up as I seduce her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:59 AM
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Of course you can be honest. I tell her exactly what I want and she decides if she wants that too. If I wouldn't tell her my honesty she wouldn't even had the chance to reciprocate. That would be me shooting myself in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:56 AM
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That's such bullshit. I'm brutally honest with women. Has done me wonders...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:54 AM
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Well you can work on the wording, that was a quick draft lol. A proper fuckboy who doesn't want to waste his time will pass on the offer. And if you can't tell if a dude is lying yo you fir 4 dates, than uou wouldn't be able to tell it for 10 dates either. Why should I make sexual promises when I don’t even know the guy well? For the purpose of taking of pressure of him. So he can actually soend the time genuinely with you. Otherwise every single word and action he does has the purpose of gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:09 PM
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My problem is this: I am not ready to have sex too early. I just physically don’t get as aroused as I need to enjoy it and make it a nice experience for both of us. So make an offer that's appealing to men in general and to you to. "Listen, I need connection to enjoy sex. I'll make you a proposition. We will go to 5 dates. First 4 dates we will simply get to know each other and spend time together completely non-sexually. No kissing, no anything. I want for us to really get to know each others p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:01 PM
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Can't make someone attracted to you, and if you'll try you are guaranteed to waste time on dead leads. The best you can do is make an effort to present your offer to your best abilities and deal with the questions/objections that come up. The rest is up to the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:54 AM
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if you get a no, you arent calibrating correctly So people not wanting what you offer is your fault? Otlr they are simply not allowed to say no? now, show me the comment where i say push the woman's boundaries Fair enough, you said "push boundaries". I took it to be "push her boundaries" not "push the boundaries of a relationship".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:34 AM
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Simply that those are two different concepts. Pushing the boundries of a relationship means to move forward with your intentions. Pushing anothervpersons boundries means to ignore their "no" and try to get what you want anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:28 AM
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this pushes the boundaries of the relationship Sure, but that's a totally different thing from pushing her boundaries. Big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:23 AM
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Huh? Calibration is something you do all the time to make sure the communication is clear. To make it sexual you make a sexual offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:08 AM
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No. If a stranger approaching a stranger is harrasment then I can't approach you to give you your wallet that fell out of your pocket while you were going somewhere. Me approaching her to tell her I would like to talk to her is not harrasment. It's a public space. Strangers are allowed to talk to strangers. It can BECOME harrasment if she says she is not interested and I continue to try to talk to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:56 AM
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That just sounds like voluntary celibacy. Monks and nuns have chosen that life since forever. It's the same thing but without the spiritual undertone? From what I've seen mgtow goes more in hand with incels though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:28 AM
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What? No. Me approaching her is not pushing her boundries lol. And if she rejects me right away, then that's that. Nothing I can do. Boundries are usually about stuff/acts you want/don't want to do in a fwb/relationship .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:23 AM
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men have to push boundaries to be respected as a potential partner. No. I don't push boundries. I set up my boundaries and it may happen that to adhere to them the woman has to push her own boundaries. But I never ever push them for her. I give her a choice to decide herself if she wants to engage with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:09 AM
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it is antithetical to my MGTOW convictions. Shouldn't any talk on how to interact with women (besides avoidance) be antithetical to your convictions as you are supposedly going your own way?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:06 AM
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with every test you failed and every boundary you refused to push What's wrong here is the boundary pushing. That's what makes your argument be so detestable. A good man doesn't push boundries, he sets his own. If she doesn't like anal and you really want it, you tell her that having no anal is a deal breaker to you and you are willing to work with her to make it enjoyable but without anal there is no relationship. Same goes with head or anything else. You don't push boundries. That is abusive..…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:46 PM
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the difference between "no" and 'not for you". Ohh I do see it. My own example. When I approached my current GF she told me she doesn't want to suck dick. She had done it a few times and didn't enjoy it. I said that the only way we move forward is that with time she starts getting over this boundary and we will do it in such a pase that's enjoyable to her. Now she sucks my dick whenever I want... because I didn't accept something I didn't want to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:22 AM
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Again, the topic wasn't about deception. It wasn't indicated. Let's assume there was no deception involved. You simply didn't ask and accept her boundary... why did you accept something you didn't want?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:08 AM
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So her not sucking your dick wasn't a deal breaker before but after you learn she used to suck her ex'es dick now it is a deal breaker? Why would there be any deception involved? If you didn't inquire her about the topic and her past behavior simply never came up, how did she deceive you? And if it's such an important thing for you, why didn't you inquire her early on? I talk about desires and boundaries before I've even had sex with the woman. You don't do that even after years of being togethe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:48 AM
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Virgins on wedding night? Cmon. Are you Amish or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 07:38 AM
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All women engage in casual sex if the man she is attracted to is also seductive enough. There are few nun types who wouldn't but basically all would. So saying "women who engage in casual sex" is misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 07:24 AM
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“I did it and enjoyed it with Fred, but I don’t want to do it with you” Yeah, but that's not usually the case. It's “I did it and was ok with it, but I don’t want to do it anymore no matter with whom.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 07:21 AM
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No. Most women don't think they will engage in casual sex. Most women think of sex romantically first. But women get tons of offers. With time there comes a man (or few men) who knows how to offer casual sex in a way that's very appealing. And boom she has engaged in casual sex. Yet she STILL thinks of sex romantically first. Stop your Madonna/whore complex. Most women are BOTH! No such thing as "the good girl". It's a lame male fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 06:45 AM
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how are women (and Top Ra Men) able to have zero remorse for demanding love from someone despite having a body count close to 50 by the time they're ready to "settle" ? Love is not demanded, it's found. Love happens between the parties that feel it. Wtf does other people have to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 06:40 AM
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That's why those are called deal breakers - you can't compromise on those. So if you are in a relationship where you have compromised on your deal breaker already, that's your own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 06:35 AM
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RP with their selective criteria for definitions that keep changing lol... The walm is generally understood as the approximate age (~30) where most women have passed the peak of their attractiveness. It has nothing to do with their mating behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:41 PM
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They are relieved when unwanted attention dissipates, they are distraught when the desired attention is gone too. When they say they don't want men approach them, they mean only the former. But verbally they banish it all without distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:35 PM
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I will not be in a marriage with someone who im not compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:34 PM
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Then you are with someone who doesn't like what you like - you are not compatible. What they did with their ex has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:32 PM
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Now unless you yourself see negative connotation with word "hoe" Lol, you post a definition and don't read it? "Underhand way of saying"... i.e. in this case a judgemental, shaming way of saying... its just a slang for women who sleep around a lot for me I thought you didn't care about what they do though? A person who wouldn't care also wouldn't make underhand comments about others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:27 PM
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Where did I shamed anyone? "or else she belongs to streets"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 08:58 PM
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better to be alone than have a woman settle for you So be alone. No one cares. its a two way street or else she belongs to street See, now they care because you are not simply being alone. You are shaming people for not being into you the way you want. Go be alone if that's what you want... and don't complain! I couldn't give less of a fuck Obviously you do if you have such strong opinions about where people who are not into you belong. They aren't doing me a favour They are not trying to. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 08:45 PM
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You can see by the responses thst it's the opposite. A woman isn't looking at a husband material as inherently less attractive. That's a male projection (from madonna/ whore in which the madonna usually doesn't have the high sex appeal). A woman can settle for someone she is not as much attracted to physically but "a husband material" means only good thing. It has 0 drawbacks. You can have a really sexually charged husband material and someone who is simply a good husband material with enough se…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 08:25 PM
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despite how much we evolved we still don’t live in a genderless society. That statement make no sense. We have evolved to be gendered. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:31 PM
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Correct. Tell it to her seductively ofcourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 03:21 PM
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It actually simple. The more she is risking (emotionally), the more she wants to make sure her risk is justified - so waiting to vet you. The less she is risking (emotionally), the less she needs to consider before making a decision to have sex. So as a man you decide what you want. If you want a relationship then you should be willing to wait because you are vetting her too. If you want sex first and foremost then don't make yourself appear like you want a relationship. That will make it easier…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 10:11 AM
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"Because assuming women to be guilty before proven innocent is ok. But unattractive men are white and fluffy so don't you dare do the same."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 04:37 PM
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Lol the word is used exactly like that in plenty books on animal behavior. Sure, you cornered me, you witty boi.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:21 PM
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And at that point sex appeal was the main criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:09 PM
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Words don't have meaning, they have usages. I clearly explained how I use the word...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:08 PM
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This post is about dating/sex not marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:07 PM
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Evaluation isn't a thoughtful conclusion. A female hummingbird evaluates her mating choices without much "thought" at all. your inability to escape the sad paradigm of needing someone else to evaluate you as worthy. The paradigm is that everyone will evaluate you no matter what you want. You can't escape it. It's not me needing it, it's what's happening. I put my desires out there and someone reciprocates them if they find them appealing (their biology has evaluated me to be a good enough choice…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:01 PM
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Ok, go to neuroscientist and tell him that a person engaging in sex or kissing isn't making a choice to do so. How can you not realize that if you say she isn't making a choice that means that she is not consenting - i.e. you are raping. But I think I know where the issue is. I bet you are in the indirect camp. You don't actually communicate your desires and intentions to women. What you do is try to put women in be situations where they would have plausible deniability and would simply end up h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:48 PM
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Because that's the main one. Men are human with unique personalities, no shit...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:40 PM
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Reaction doesn't mean shit. What matters is what she concludes from her reactions, e.g. what she evaluates. If her conclusion is " I want him to fuck me" that means that she has evaluated you to be a good mate. If you don't give her the ability to evaluate it means you are raping her. I think you are the one who doesn't understand the meaning of words.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:38 PM
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True power is the disruption of her ability to evaluate in the first place. So rape? Nice.... You clearly don't have much success or experience. If you mean at raping women then you are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:29 PM
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I let her know I want to fuck her and she evaluates if she wants it too or you think women just fuck everyone that offers it to them with evaluating? For the evaluation is simple - is she hot. Women have more criteria that include more of personality stuff - checking for confidence, testing if he really is the man he appears to be, etc. I think you are the one with no experience. That's the first thing teenage virgins try to disprove lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:23 PM
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Even tho I for sure have more experience than OP and you with women? How have you decided that? Just because you want it to be so? bending over backwards to justify needing to be evaluated Trying to describe reality to conceptualize truth isn't bending over backwards. pretending that the same safety concerns don't also apply to men, They don't. First appealing to biology/nature as an inerrant authority is silly I didn't. Saying that nature has found a way that consistently works isn't appealing …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:14 PM
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You sound too philosophical for your own good. Unnecessary abstractions. If you are someone who seeks to submit you have to evaluate. Period. Because submitting is potentially dangerous. The wrong dude can not only make your life hell but actually kill you woth his bare hands. Our biology has made it so that men put themselves out there and women choose. We are not the only species who have it like that. It's quite common actually. So what idea has gotten you to think that millions of years of e…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 09:52 PM
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I think you missed the part where he is dominant with women and submissive with me. Dominant moves forward (put himself out there), submissive waits to respond (evaluates). If you as a man want a woman to submit to you (which she also wants) putting yourself out there IS what you do. And if she wants to submit to you evaluating you IS what she needs to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 09:34 PM
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Fear of rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 07:06 AM
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I hope that wasn't their wording because the central nervous system (brain and spine) is connected to peripheral nervous system (rest of the body) for everyone. And there is no "direct" connection. They concluded that for women you have to stimulate both their brain (emotions) and the vagina to sexually arouse them. That point has been made thousands of years ago. And it's also not true, because women were aroused by monkeys having sex. It's just that for women arousal isn't necessarily register…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:28 PM
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My lesbian women friends could stare at nude pictures of models and won't associate it with sex. They will compliment their style, their vibe. So do I. That's false. You just don't verbalize the fact of your arousal out loud. I think it was ML Chivers that made the experiment of showing all kinds of pictures to men and women, having them hooked on a machine that tests for arousal and having them describe what they find arousing and what not. The conclusion was that men are straightforward - what…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:35 PM
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How can someone who says he "loves you" without even had gone to date with you and have never been intimate with you... ever be genuine about that statement? The simplest explanation is that he thought that would make you consider giving him a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:35 AM
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Yes, many many men will tell you what they think you want to hear to have sex with you. Most girls learn this in highschool but still don't get it as adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:27 AM
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Yes, of course I do. How do I come to be in a situation where I'm super in love with someone? We've been intimate for a long time and enjoy each other company very much. It's impossible for me to fall in love unless we have been seeing each other for a long time. And we will never get to the point of seeing each other for a long time unless we are fucking and the sex is awesome. The effort in dates directly corresponds to have good you make me feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:15 AM
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Look into ARC ModeOne. As far as I know he is the only dude associated with Red Pill that has real, actionable, positive-sum game advice. All the rest of them find a way to blame and shame women for no other reason than their biological drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:35 PM
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Are you good at everything you try period?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 07:18 AM
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Are you good at everything you do from the 1st try?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:23 AM
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Did i say something to the contrary? I'm pretty sure I explained just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:22 AM
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I just explained and gave pretty good analogy why it's normal for lack experience and skill to lead to others not being satisfied with the result. Suck it up and let people develop. As long as they aren't doing anything illegal, like harrasment, you just accept it as a normal part of living in a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:20 PM
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Decent city of 500 000 population
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:18 PM
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BS. You just can't imagine a good approach because you've never experienced it. Personal incredulity doesn't make for truth. I approached my gf as she was walking across the street. Again, it's a skill. I was bad at the start and with experience got better at it till the point I could get a fuckbuddy anytime I wanted, all I would have to do would be walk around a little and approach few women. Clearly many women enjoy being complimented and having a charming man bring a smile on their face. Not …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:08 PM
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A guy approaching you badly, weirdly, creepy, etc will make you uncomfortable in any situation. There is a huge difference between someone who knows how to do something and someone who doesn't. You go to school and courses, read books etc. to develop skills. And no one gets rewarded while they are not good at them. That's the most normal life thing. It's the same as hearing a neighbor practicing their new instrument. Sure, it's uncomfortable to some. But what can you do. That's life. When they'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 08:43 PM
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You can go outside and see thousands and thousands of women walking around. The audience is there. If you got what they seek, they will listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 08:33 PM
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since cold approaching doesn't really work Huh? How did you come to that conclusion? Why wouldn't it work?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 08:30 PM
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I don't remember what he actually claimed but seeing him approach i definitely think it's high up there. He has a very good ability to talk interestingly about any subject. As I said, I've seen it with my own eyes. His stop rate is basically 100% and number rate is about 80%. I think date sms to date rate was something about 50% (again he does all the photo ping and emotional hook stuff - stuff that I didn't give a fuck about to do). Date to sex rate at 50% would land him in 20% overall success …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 09:47 PM
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it's just not likely to be very successful I'm totally happy with my success rate and most importantly the genuine desire I have receive in turn. I'd rather you didn't act in a way that makes people uncomfortable. People getting uncomfortable is not my control. I control my actions. My actions are to express my offer in as direct, clear, straightforward way as possible and give the other person an opportunity to accept an it or reject it. Just because you don't find something appealing and don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:39 PM
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Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:22 PM
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I'm not interested in playing your game were you waste mens time by running them trough your dating filter machine. I make an offer, you take it or leave it. If you are not interested why would you care that a random stranger expressed a very generous offer to share his body with you. Take the compliment and move on (which most do while complimenting me on my confidence to be so honest and bold I might say).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:21 PM
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By gf would totally dissagree with that statement lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:17 PM
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Why would I care is someone is put off by me if they weren't going to be "put on" by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:16 PM
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All the woman who have slept with me, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:15 PM
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So to me 20% success rate means you approach 100 women and you get to sleep with 20 of them. Correct. I know a guy who claims he is at 30%. He is a daygame qoach now but I knew him before he became a qoach. I kind of believe him. I know he actually kept statistics and was tracking every step of the way. I've seen him approach and he gets numbers of about 80% of women he appoaches. I've seen him help his clients and his stuff works. I just personality find his approach bad because I don't like to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:14 PM
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No. That success rate is low because it's a COLD approach. You don't have any info about the person you are approaching. Boyfriends, heartbreak, emotional turmoils, periods, genuine lack of time, not being attracted to you and millions of other reasons to reject you. That's just the nature of talking to strangers. It's not the lack of looks. The more you work on your abilities to cold approach the better you get. It's a skill. And better you learn to deliver your sexual offer, the better it will…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:57 PM
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Haha, you are talking to someone who started cold approaching at 19 years old and 10 years later have done thousands of approaches. I know plenty dudes who follow all the daygame standart stuff. It's just seems weak to me. Takes no balls to be indirect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:46 PM
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Charm and seductivness itself? The purpose of being direct isn't to seduce you, it's to get to the point quick to filter out women who are not attracted to me / not interested in what I want. I can't make some be attracted to me. I can just demonstrate my attractive qualities (such the confidence to do deliver such a direct offer and expect it be reciprocated). My goal is to make my best offer from my genuine desires and receive an answer without any wasted time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:43 PM
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Yes, a man who is very honest, direct and upfront about his desires and intentions giving you the opportunity to consent or reject everything that's happening and will happen - is the scary man. And the indirect man who hides his intentions and you don't know what exactly he wants - is the safe man. Really, huh? Ok, sure, I'll give it to you that women find the first scenario scary (though for no reason as that's the exact opposite of what someone with bad intentions would do). But it's up to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:38 PM
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BS. You need some looks, sure. But what you really need is a skilled mouth piece. It's the charm and seductivness that make them knees weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:24 PM
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Attraction isn't an opinion. I don't care what she thinks of me. I care about her arousal. Women masturbate while reading erotica containing simmilar stories all the time. A man who she is attracted to coming into her life with his insatiable desire and dirty mouth, seducing her and just taking her is exactly what she thinks of while playing with herself. That coming to reality is very exciting to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:22 PM
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That is simply not true. If a woman is attracted to me and I make her aroused and promise pleasure... why wouldn't she stay close to hear more?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:12 PM
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I wouldn't make an infield video even if it was my business. Most women wouldn't want that to be out there on the internet. It's a very intimate thing. But if you want to see an example, here is ARC demonstrating it: https://youtube.com/watch?v=L-CZYxUGBko
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:51 PM
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So you obviously didn't get the express your desires part. It's very important. It's an easy way to be AF. A simple scenario: Approach. Exchange basic pleasantries for 30 sec to 1 min. Get physically close, lean in and whisper her your desires/intentions (for example: your ass looks nice, I would love to have it firm in my hands as I prepare my hot cock to fuck the shit out of you). Her being shocked/startled. If she is staying close and not backing away, me continuing a little more dirty talk. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:20 PM
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It takes 5 minutues to aproach a woman, express your desires, excange phone numbers. Do it 5 women a day and calculate in an hour of follow up per day. You'll be the pussy slayer of your neighborhood while spending 1.5 h each day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:05 PM
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BS! Of course you can get AF treatment while caring for your long-term stability. You think women don't like men who ooze sexuality and have their shit together? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:51 PM
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So when you are happy your actions are exactly the same as when you are sad? You don't celebrate anything and mourn anything, your outside life is a perfect monotone because "you control your emotions". Yeaaaah, right!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:05 PM
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19m radically misogynist who hates women.Even then, I value the women in my life and I treat everyone the same.With equality and respect. See, I don't believe that. It's not illegal to hate a gender but not for a second I believe that you threat what you hate with respect. And equality? Hate is a strong emotion. So feelings have zero impact on your actions? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:02 PM
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Lol. That's literally what I say to women, word for word. The "I would love to see you naked in my bed" is my default. I've also said "I will fuck your head" (though in a specific context where she said to stop fucking with her head). Or "your legs would look nice on my shoulders". Or "I want you to be my little bitch". Generally I do that only if we are talking irl where I can get close and whisper this stuff in the ear. Without the proper setting that kind of dirty talk can be totally out of l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:47 PM
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It's the choices they made afterward that are the reason. And what are those choices? I have a suspicion that you take some of those grotesque shows such as The View or the crazies that shout "abortions for everyone" to be the definition of sex positivity. Crackpots are crackpots. And what are the NATURAL desires of women and why shouldn't that be shamed? To enjoy sex to their liking in all it's variety without being shamed. And that's the reason it shouldn't be shamed. why are we then shaming m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:39 PM
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Well that's the main difference. I don't see how allowing people the freedom of choice that was denied to them is a "decline". Are there people who overdose from certain drugs in countries where such drugs are not illegal? Sure. But statistically prohibition doesn't work, it creates more problem than not. Are there women who go crazy with their sex positivity... sure. But shaming sex and the NATURAL desires of women is not the way. You can simultaneously promote sex positivity and promote taking…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:30 AM
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I would never use such a stupid term as sarging, but it actually doesn't matter if the girl is introverted or extroverted. What matters is if you gain her attention and get her to engage with a stranger (yourself). The strangers job is to guide the interaction. Anyone can be guided, no matter their personallity. I remember one girl who was super quite and shy as I approached her. She wouldn't even give me her number, just fb. I offered her to to fullfil my desires of seeing her naked in my bed. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:15 AM
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Shock but intrigue. That's how it usually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:16 PM
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Being insecure about your abilities is not at all the same thing as being intimidated
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:52 PM
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Get two female friends to stare at one and snicker to themselves. I would go up and say "so are you fighting about which one of you are going to suck my cock first or you just like whispering dirty things to each other?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:51 PM
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Others say it's a bunch of guys, looking for best practices and pickup lines to pump and dump Who are the geniuses who think looking for best practices to lie about your intentions and leave people without delivering what you promised is a good idea. Con men, thiefs and trp dudes? Nice company you got there lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 06:27 PM
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I understand your reservations but you do seem to be purposefully avoid accepting the point. All your objections about safety can also be raised if men are thr ones who approach you and you decide to go home with them. The real reason is that part of what makes you attracted to a guy is him approaching you. You simply feel better when you are being approached. The point men are telling you is that if you actually went approached and asked for sex, you would receive it. 100%. You don't even have …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:37 PM
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Well, the metaphor from matrix is simple. If you see the truth, you have taken the red pill. I would simply argue that TRP doesn't see the truth, because the only reason to lie is to think that your truth (desire for casual sex) will be rejected. While the actual truth is that women respond very well to a charming offer to fuck. So if a man feels the need to lie about that, he doesn't see the true sexual nature of women - not red pill. But again, that's a differing definition from most.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:53 AM
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Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:36 AM
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To me honesty is the natural conclusion is seeing the real sexual nature of women (red pill) but that's a completely different thing from trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:33 AM
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Considering I define red pill differently from most people here then probably no pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:30 AM
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I never want just sex. Just sex is when the sex is bad and I don't want to see her again. I want sex that goes on for a few months at least. That requires that we actually like talking to each other in the moments we are not having sex (pauses, in between, after, watching a movie, etc). But the only way we get to know if it's just sex or awesome sex for few months is by starting to have sex. Because until sex has happened all my biology is telling me to ignore the fact that I might not actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:16 AM
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women always want to extract something out of the sex they give. My pleasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:06 AM
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How so? I'm always honest and upfront about what I want and what I'm offering to the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:01 AM
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I see. To me feeling horny is the feeling that just comes up from time to time each day. Usually you wank one out and the horniness is over. The days when I had a casual sex partner come over or now that my gf comes over, I just wait it out. And desire is what I feel generally towards the person. Just like for you, but it's strictly sexual. The desire I feel towards my gf is the same desire I felt towards casual sex partners. It's raw and animalistic. It's just that with my gf I also want to spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:42 PM
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So you are open to have casual sex with people you don't desire? To me having sex implies you desire the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 06:13 PM
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Yeah, i just can't wrap my head around it. I get what you are saying but I'm not getting it lol. Whenever I'm approaching a woman my goal is to get laid. I have no idea if I want a relationship with her, i don't know her, but I know I desire her. So my offer always is continues casual sex until something changes that either brings as closer are separates us. I do sometimes know that it's definitely not going to be long-term. Then my offer is strictly "just fucking". You start from the other end.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:25 PM
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Then would you or wouldn't you date sameone who you started to have casual sex with and, even though you had previously disqualified him from a relationship, you now have developed a connection with? I associate having sex quickly with someone I want to date with bad experiences. So still, a dudes best strategy is to get himself disqualified from a relationship status, be convincing and charming enough so you start having sex with him and hope that your answer to the above question is yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:45 PM
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Attractive enough, hopefully tall, hopefully lean but most importantly interesting man. Further explanation: As long as he can capture my attention, he can do whatever he wants. I want him to use me but in a way that loving. He has to be someone who's attention I seek. That's an interesting man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:30 PM
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Ehh, sure, you can lie. But how will you feel if it doesn't end up resulting in sex? Won't you feel like your time has been wasted because you did so much non-sexual stuff that you didn't actually care to do? Spent time, maybe even money to go home and jack off. Or do you think that your chances of being attractive to her greatly increase if you do the non-sex related f lol date stuff with her. It doesn't. She is either attracted or not, no real maybes. The maybes start when she finds you attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:09 PM
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Honesty is the most humane way I can treat them. Why do you feel the need to protect women from the truth? If your truth is not to give them pain but to give them pleasure, why would you want to hide that? Or maybe you are not offering pleasure? Or maybe you just don't think you do? Why? Do you think that most women don't value exciting sex? If you think they do value it, then do you think that they won't experience it with you, so that's why your honesty is something to protect them from?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:42 PM
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No! The well mannared good girl thing is a facade. The public persona is offended. She has to ACT offended to save face and virtue signal to other women. I'n reality she either doesn't care or is kind of curious herself. A woman who don't upkeep that fake persona so much are basically never offended by a genuine, positive, charming expression a desire for her. Even if she is not interested she appreciates it (if the man doesn't start harrasing her ofcourse). That’s very rarely the case though. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:28 PM
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Just realized a better formulation. If you are having casual sex, it's only when you don't like something about the person enough to disqualify them from a relationship. So casual sex happens only when you don't like something. It's not a wonder that you end up associating it with experiences you don't like. Even without the risk of the sex not being good, it's negative by default for you. Because you do it only with people you find a fault with and are rooting against.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:17 PM
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The fuck? How is being very honest and direct about your desires and intentions toxic? And how the fuck is that even at all comparable to crazy women going for murderers?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 11:54 AM
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If your bold and they decide they don’t like you this will backfire. Never had it backfire. Women are not gracious enough to be reasonable if they don’t instantly find you super attractive. False. You being bold won't make someone who is not attracted to you, to be attracted... but it definitely shows balls. It's a very attractive quality. Been complimented about my confidence a lot. Confidence is always perceived as arrogance or obnoxiousness by women who do not see or don’t want to see anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 11:18 AM
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I guess to each their own. The only thing I can object to is eliminating a casual sex partner from a potential relationship pool just because you had sex with him. If you only want sex quickly with a guy you don't want to have a relationship and most guys just want sex and think about a relationship later... then it's better for a guy to be an attractive asshole who you have sex with and don't date. That in turn makes assholes the only guys you have casual sex with. So by default casual sex won'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:07 AM
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Good thing life isn't like school. And it really depends on HOW you approached. If you were the boldest and most confident mf around that would intrigue a lot of women. You coming in hot with a direct, charming offer to fuck is something new to most women. All they get is either indirect pussies or direct creeps. They don't get direct smooth talkers. Be that and even if the word goes around that you got rejected, it will still be beneficial because of the attractive qualities you have demonstrat…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 06:42 AM
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guys will also tell you anything they think you want to hear in hopes of sex. And they will also play the long game. I just can't wrap my head around your motivation for separating love from sex if it's not an attempt to shield yourself from heartache.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 06:34 AM
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Why does getting to know someone and having sex have to be separate? You are getting to know someone in a very intimate way. You can talk about your actual truth, desires, fantasies, etc. It's cuts through all the bs very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 06:21 AM
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Well I would argue most people prefer actual people instead of toys
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 09:19 PM
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What if he is actually good at sex and the time is not wasted being with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 08:50 PM
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Ok. You've talked to a guy for 30 min. The next time you'll meet him is in his house for sex. How do you know you won't want to date him once you get to know him. Surely, you don't actually do casual sex like "hi, fuck, bye". People just naturally start talking and sharing stuff. Otherwise that sounds like a very dry experience. So for 3 moths you have casual sex with him. You feel like a deeper connection is forming. Are you really opposed the having a serious relationship with that person?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 08:29 PM
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So if you want a relationship and it just stays as casual sex that's too hurtful for you? The emotional pain of not getting the relationship you want from him is too big to even enjoy having sex with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:06 PM
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So you are open to forming a relationship from casual sex if the connections forms? Correct? And you are not open to having casual sex with someone who is telling you he wants a relationship?Presumably they wouldn't want it themselves if they are specifically looking for a relationship so that topic wouldn't have a need to arise. I guess the problem is that most men avoid the topic. So what happens when you ask about their intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:37 PM
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I'm against having casual sex with someone I want to date. That's weird. Like if you like them more emotionally you like them less physically?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:15 PM
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I intepret that as a sufficient connection didn't form. And if you are against dating a casual sex partner at all then that connection was cut off from forming. Either way it doesn't matter. Our desires were fullfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:04 PM
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Well I'm never aiming for just sex. That sounds miserable to me too. Usually I'm aiming for few months at least, that can only happen when there is some sort of connection. Just sex is when a connection didn't form. It's a byproduct of searching the really awesome sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 05:25 PM
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Why can’t you vet someone being crazy before having sex? Because I'm not interested in talking about random shit when I know I am interested in having sex. Also if you need post nut clarity to think critically, then I’ve got some bad news.. You know how there is a stereotype of women having blinders on when they are in a relationship? Why it happens? Because they really really desire that relationship. It's in their biology to desire it really bad. Dudes have those same blinders but before sex. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 05:12 PM
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And that's why I'm saying that my job is to inspire that desire in you. I have to be so attractive, charming, sexual and seductive that you would feel your pussy getting wet and would want to satisfy your urges... which would make it not a waste of time for you because it's so exciting and arousing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:56 PM
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Dudes get into relationships with all kinds of crazy women because they really wanted to have sex but thought they need to do the whole dating thing (because she is a "good girl"). Then after post-nut clarity they realize it and either bounce or feel trapped. If he bounces, the woman feels used and thinks he jyst wanted her for sex. If he would have started with honesty and offered to have sex in a way that's appealing to her, then upon learning he doesn't actually like her that much, she wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:52 PM
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A man approached with romantic intentions. That automatically means he wants to have sex with you, by default. Him not acknowledging that and taking you on dates to talk about everything else but sex, doesn't change the fact that he is talking to you to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:45 PM
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I'm not interested in getting to know you if we are not having sex. If our lifes just happen to cross roads and a friendship develops, that's different. But if I have approached you and have expressed my interest in you then that means that I'm attracted to you and want to have sex with you. If you are not attracted to me and don't want to have sex, then getting to know you with a "maybe" would totally waste my time if that maybe didn't become a "yes". I don't want to waste my time getting to kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:43 PM
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I've runned into that attitude quite a lot. I don't do dates. Having sex quickly is the only way to have sex with me at all. We don't really know each other. Some talk about general wants and boundries but really we know only that we want to fuck. It's seems patently absurd to me to make a decision about long-term compatability and connection before it has even been given a chance to develop. We get to know each other while fucking and with time we see if the connection is worthy enough to make …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:12 PM
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Meh. All I care is that I desire you, you desire me, we fullfil our desires. Hopefully, with time, those desires will include commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 12:02 PM
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Well as a man who wants sex first and dates/possible commitment later, my job is to inspire the same desire in a woman. That's why I focus on arousing her, nothing else matters. A woman who wants commitment first has the task to inspire that desire in a man. However, women don't tend to take that route. Instead they shame men into thinking that they are oversexed, pretend to be a good girl and hope to let the wild side out later, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:39 AM
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You understand they know that don't you I've seen far too many examples of the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:20 PM
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I'm aware most people don't care about truth as long as their objectives are reached. I'm still going to object to things I find patently absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:14 PM
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Agnostic atheist = doesn't know + doesn't believe A genuine non-believer. Agnostic theist = doesn't know + believes anyway Doesn't strongly believe but hopes for it/finds benefit in belief. In the case it's the word believe that's used with a different connotation. If you don't really really believe then you don't believe. If you have doubt, you don't have conviction. Gnostic atheist = "knows" gods don't exist + doesn't believe You can't strongly believe and not believe at the same time. So this…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:43 PM
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"they're called unicorns because they're not real AWALT" You missed a comma before awalt. "They are not real, so AWALT" Trp like to blend the line between heuristic and reality very often. And that is the problem. If all it was was just a simple heuristic without unnecessary negative conotations and it was not assumed to be real, I would have no problem with it. If you feel like you need a reminder to not be naive and stupid, sure, have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:26 PM
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Knowledge is a subset of belief. We all agree we don't have absolute knowledge so when we say we know, we actually say we really really really believe. If you are agnostic you are automatically atheist. It's a subcategory.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:20 PM
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I know this isn't the point of the conversation, but what atheists have you met who still go around acting like they believe? Jordan Peterson. He just doesn't like to admit that he is an atheist because "atheists have no moral grounding". But the fact is he doesn't believe god exists just acts if as if it does. Theism vs atheism is about belief not action. So he is an atheist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:11 PM
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So if all women are like that and it's 80%, so does that mean that trp proposes that 80% are unstable? And their goal is fuck some of those and then find a unicorn (which shouldn't be too hard find, as that 1/5 woman)?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:04 PM
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the women TRP attracts are mostly unstable women. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:49 PM
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You behave as if you believe they are and in a way you really do believe that they are. You either believe or you do not. It's a binary. If you can't genuinely say you believe all guns are loaded (meaning there doesn't exist a gun that's not loaded, and it's impossible to unload a gun because that would lead to one gun not being loaded) then you don't believe it. You just "act is if" because of the benefits. Then don't subscribe to it? Feel free to treat all guns like they're unloaded too. Just …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:34 PM
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Sure but the behaviour is no different. It is. Someone who just acts as if god exist is an atheist. He doesn't believe in it's existance but thinks that acting as if it does exist is beneficial. As such that person is less likely to engage in bad religious behavior because he is fully cognizant of him pretending about the subject. The same with awalt. You can find completely delusional justifications in this sub because of awalt. These people are not pretending about thinking "all women are like…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 11:54 AM
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Treat all guns as loaded is not the same as all guns are loaded. That "treat as if" is very important part of the heuristic. It makes it so it doesn't trigger an objection about objective truth. Just like "act as if there is god" and "there is god" are completely different statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 11:06 AM
6

If all doesn't mean all then what the fuck does all mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:41 AM
1

"According to the founder of Stop Street Harassment, it can range from physically harmless behavior, such as "kissing noises" and "non-sexually explicit comments", to "more threatening behavior" like stalking, flashing, sexual assault, and rape.[4]" Ohh, yes, let's put people in prison for making kissing noises and make it be the same as rape. Real nice! "Although a perpetrator is legally allowed to shout obscenities, other acts such as public indecency and sexual assault are blatant violations …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:43 AM
1

Lol, where is it illegal? I would like to read how they have defined where exactly is the line. Not allowed to talk to strangers at all? Not allowed to compliment strangers? Not allowed to compliment steangers with a raised voice? Please do tell me where is this magical place...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 04:54 PM
5

Yup, I've gotten way more enthusiasm from women when there was no money, no dates involved... I was simply very direct about my desires. Can't remember a single time when a conventional date lead to her getting really turned on. Well, one time, but we spent the date talking about fucking each other, so I wouldn't clasify that as conventional.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 07:36 AM
4

Are you saying that cat calling is illegal? Because sexual harrasment is...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 06:25 AM
3

It is NOT harrasing if you haven't told "no". I can be a disturbance, a bothering, an annoyance, a failure or whatever. But it's not harrasing. How hard is that to get...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:43 AM
0

When I was single I was horny for every woman that as I was attracted to. That's what motivated me to be seductive and try to make their pussies wet as quick as possible so my horniness can be satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:16 PM
3

Correct. But you did exactly what I'm saying is wrong. Offering a coffee date - not harrasment. Complimenting a strangers ass - not harrasment. Persisting after she says no - is harrasment. Harrasment can't happen before a no. I've started a conversation with much cruder things than complimenting ass. But as soon as I sense a rejection I back off. Me being crude is not me harrasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:13 PM
0

We all complain that the only men who can get enthusiastic sex from women are chads. While that’s true for casual sex, False. Don't need to be a Chad to make a direct offer and smooth talk away the objections. So the next time you’re at a party or a club, try to not be horny in general. The fuck would be my motivation to talk to a woman if not to satisfy my horniness? Nothing wrong with having a biological drive to seek out a mate. What you don't want to be is desperate. Being horny is not the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:08 PM
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Lol, im not arguing about myself. I was mocking the women who think an offer is harrasment. You jumped to the conclusion she'd shoot you down. The point is that it doesn't matter. Disturbing you to make an offer is not harrasment. Just like disturbing you to give you back your wallet that fell out as you were walking is not harrasment. Harrasment can only happen after a "no".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:49 PM
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It doesn't matter what you do. You are in a public space. That means that other people can try to make you offers for everything that is not illegal. Making an offer about romantic interests isn't illegal. Simple as that. This is basic shit! A man makes an offer, you agree or refuse. It becomes harrasment only when the man is not stoping to make his offer AFTER rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:34 PM
18

That's still a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:28 PM
36

Because that's what women here say when asked if they want to be approached by a stranger...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:24 PM
20

Exactly. And women very often clasify pursuit as harrasment even though no harrasing took place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:22 PM
2

How is recommending a kiss an assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:05 PM
87

"I'm there to play tennis not be bothered with your desires. Don't harrass me, you can clearly see I'm busy."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:04 PM
5

100% I can understand to evolutionary benefit to being able to not commit to raising a child - freedom. The desire for this benefit is on both sides though. And it's fullfilled in different ways for men and women. None of that suggests it's a good idea to limited this freedom. A good idea would be to promote and incentive raising a child without standing in the way of the motivation for freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 08:36 AM
1

What?! Why would I care what a woman who I perceive as a 5 thinks and does?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 10:52 AM
21

Can't get married and have no options are two completely different things. I'm 30, live in small studio type apartment and have plenty options...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 07:05 AM
3

Why do you feel the need to change the argument or completely misunderstand what I said? No shit that when you get old and your own desirability for sex drops, you have to drop your expectations of the other person too... That doesn't mean that a healthy man in his prime years should get with someone just because they are emotionally mature. There is nothing wrong with him wanting to be be physically attracted to the person first and foremost.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:07 PM
2

Your question was "Is youth and beauty really worth having to deal with a greater level of emotional immaturity?" It wasn't about specifying decades and "only" or whatever. To your original question my answer is yes. Because the reason I'm with you is because I'm attracted to you. Without physical attraction there is no relationship. I'm not interested in a relationship without sex. Sex is the basis on which the relationship is formed. Sex is the most important and determining part of the relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:58 PM
5

Im not going to be in a relationship with a woman that doesn't turn me on. Why would a dead bedroom be something to promote?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:40 PM
1

Yes. My dick doesn't get hard based on your emotional maturity, it gets hard based on the physical attraction I feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 06:34 PM
2

Was your professor an incel? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 04:58 PM
-1

Maybe some biology class is in order then
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 02:43 PM
2

Sure! Dumb, thirsty men can be manipulated with the promise of sex (by witholding or by promising more). Nothing new...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 12:18 PM
2

Se, maybe. But those who would be interested anyway would be intrigued by the confidence. By being so bold you demonstrate you don't give a shit about rejection. Oddly enough that's very attractive (as long as you were smooth and charming, opposed to being creepy about it of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 06:43 AM
1

Have you ever seen a woman dripping wet over a piece of paper or numbers? Women giving you the impression of possibility of sex to gain access to your money is not the same as them being genuinely aroused.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 01:01 AM
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Depending on her reaction you can go into way more detail than that. Women have their pusies wet as they read this stuff in erotica novels. Deliver it in real life and it has the same effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 11:47 PM
2

So those who are attracted and interested in me would reciprocate and those who are not would quickly reject me without wasting my time. Sounds like a win-win no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 09:44 PM
1

It's not that they get it somewhere, it's that they are not getting proper education about how women would like to be picked up. That's why pua is an industry. Men looking for some kind of education. Just so happens that lots of is not much better than what men would do on their own clueless trial and error journey. So, yes, in a sense it's natural. Just like a baby not being able to speak is natural. It's is natural to lack skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:12 PM
-3

Holding deep eye contact and whispering in her ear "I would love to feel your body grinding against mine as I let you feel the pleasures of my hard cock"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 07:55 PM
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Exactly. The problem is that when men don't know how to arouse women with words. All they do is push straight for sex... i've seen and heard stories crazy thirsty men being very pushy in weird ways. That makes women very defensive and develop rules of making sure there is emotional connection, etc. The wrong thing to do is push even further by trying to convince women that their need for emotional connection is wrong. The correct thing to do is to figure out what makes a womans pussy wet, what m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 05:23 PM
0

So you would be fine with only dating without sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 05:12 PM
1

Girl - Sets and extremely high bar (paper qualities - looks, money, social/group status) where the guy has to be top 20%, in some instances even higher. Holds out hope for a very long time and inevitably fails. Grabs some poor shmuck she would have easily rejected prior to the peer pressure, fear of being alone, and her bio clock ticking. Rejected the poor shmuck for what? A relationship, casual sex or both? I can concede that she would have rejected someone for a relationship just because he wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:45 AM
2

You think women were not involved in the creation of religion in so many cultures? Dream on kid...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 02:13 PM
1

People. Lol, what does the origin of religion has to do with anything here?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 10:14 AM
2

Women will usually publicly slutshame each other due to internalized misogyny (men hate sluts, so i hate sluts too, that will make men like me and respect me!). No. Women slut shame other women because of religion mores and because other women giving access to their pussies for free means that it's harder for them to charge premium (dates, favors, marriage) to men. Men slutshame women because they genuinely don't even ascribe any human value to her. No. Men slutshame because of religious mores a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:59 AM
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Words - e.g. charm, mouth piece, directness Prolonged eye contact Tone of voice A man who can combine the above 3 into an approach and offer can overcome his other shortcomings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:29 PM
0

Yes, you can't sleep with a woman who doesn't sleep with men. Considering you are a part of the 100 that would hit on her and she can't sleep even with 1, you are correct my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:37 PM
1

That's all right. Not something I can promise but I'm not denying it either. If we develop an incredible connection after enjoying some damn good sex together then I'm open to make it exclusive and official.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:25 AM
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I approach her and let her know my desires. We exchange phone numbers. Then we either talk a little bit more and have phone sex before we actually meet up or there isn't much talking needed (altough I still try to make sure she knows my rules and boundaries) and we schedule when we could meet up to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:08 AM
-1

Zero. I don't do dates before I know I'm really interested in the person for long term. For me to have that interest we should already be fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:01 AM
0

So let those 100 men hit on her and see how many she will sleep with. The answer most certainly is - not many. Maybe even none.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 06:09 PM
3

So you call her a town bike not based on her selection criteria but based on how many men desire her?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 05:39 PM
3

Sleeping around doesn't mean being indiscriminate. Those are two seperate things. In my experience it's very rare to find an actual town bike. Look, one woman rejects 99% of offers and has slept with 10 guys, while another woman rejects 97% of offers and has slept with 30 guys. A town bike, really? Or one woman receives 100 offers and rejects 99% of them, thus has slept with 1 guy... while another woman receives 1000 offers and rejects 99% of them... thus has slept with 10 guys. A town bike, rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 05:22 PM
4

Huh? How would I be disrespected if I get what I want without doing things I don't want?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 12:32 AM
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You seem to want to be treated like shit What you consider being treated like shit is what I consider being sexually satisfied by an awesome person who wants to please me and being left alone afterwards to do the other stuff I want to do. That's being treated like king to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 09:44 PM
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No. I want to bang as many attractive women as possible and, in time, amongst them find someone I develop an incredibly strong connection with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 09:37 PM
2

I think this is my problem when trying to pick up women. I don't have the balls to smoothly escalate and just kind of ambivalently flop around until they get disgusted and leave. I've missed out on a lot of sex because of this. It takes time to be really comfortable in your skin as you tell the woman what you want from her. As long as you recognize that it's the fear of rejection that makes hesitate and mince words.. you can work on it. I also feel like there's a specific "follow-up" move There …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:52 PM
1

I didn't. I know from my own experience. I've approached women, told them exactly what and how I desire, exchanged numbers and had sex (or sometimes phone) later that evening. Women have also told me that my directness was what made them consider and agree to my offer for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 02:28 PM
-1

Because women want a smooth and charming stranger to seduce them. Most men don't have the balls to do that. But, again, women really really really want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 01:18 PM
-2

BS all od BS! Blue pill thinking is just such garbage... Women really really REALLY want exciting sex life. Most female fantasies are about strangers. Women respond incredibly well to straightforward, direct honesty. That's what makes them feel that the man has just taken them, ravaged for passionate fucking. Just because most men are afraid of rejection so they choose to lie (because they feel like their desires would be rejected so in their mind it's more strategic to lie), doesn't mean that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 12:32 PM
12

How can a person be very educated and think that females have penises and males have vaginas?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:32 PM
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No. I get why you would say that but no. Red pill has simply gone somewhat mainstream but not completely. It's mainstream to think casual sex can lead to a relationship but men are still afraid to communicate their desires directly because they are afraid of rejection. And they still think atleast one daye is necessary for casual sex. The red pill you see on reddit is not actual redpill. They preach indirect communication and manipulation. A man who sees the true sexual nature of women wouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:49 PM
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Yes, the actual red pill has become more and more mainstream. Just like the original feminism is very mainstream now. But then feminism went too far and is full of bunch of crazies whi think all men are their oppressors. The same thing happened with red pill, it got infiltrated by a bunch of crazies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:09 AM
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I explained it pretty well i think. At it's corr red pill is when you see the true sexual nature of women. Before red pill you thought that there are good girls and sluts, with red pill you see that good girls are sluts and sluts can be good girls. Redpill is a response to feminism. Just like feminism was a response to Victorian era mores. And just like there are multiple waves of feminism, which have become nothing like it was originally supposed to be, red pill has also been infiltrated with l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:04 AM
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You being sex positive is redpill... Blue pill guys think that there are the good girls and the sluts. The good girls, the wife materials, don't engage in promiscuity, don't have kinky desires, etc., only the sluts do. Red pill guys sees that all (except very few outliars) are very sexual beings and desire crazy sex. So if you just want sex there is no point in pretending to want a relationship, you can just simply offer the crazy sex. Blue pill guys think that dates are a prerequisites for sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:49 PM
1

Remembering my view of you from discussions way back I would have never guessed that you'd make this comment. Seems like you've become more positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:07 PM
4

You sound naturally red pilled (someone who has never had the blue-pill beliefs). Unfortunately there is a lot of power tripping ego bs associated with red pill that have nothing to do with the basic concept, so I get why you wouldn't want to associate yourself with it in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:02 PM
3

Got it. Clear communication always helps :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:45 PM
1

I still don't get what you mean by that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:38 PM
1

Fuck they yes something?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:32 PM
11

boundary violation Nope. It's my boundary that if we continue talking it's going to involve sexual topics. She can stop the interaction at any time. If she continues it then how can it be a boundary violation? arousal non-concordance It's not like I'm saying she has to cum. Pussy gets wet just as easily as dick gets hard. It's not an expectation to orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:45 AM
5

"Sure we can talk but you know I'm going to take my opportunities to make your pussy wet as we do"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:00 AM
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Im just going to add that it's not normal. Men with an extreme Madonna/whore complex are not the norm. They are the loud minority. Taking myself as an example, all my relationships start out as fuckbuddies and then if connection forms we transition into monogamy with more commitments. I can't imagine shaming a woman just because she was so attracted to me that she agreed to have sex with me. That's weird af!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 06:13 AM
1

You can't use your logic to argue against the feelings of people. This is true. And it also applies to this: Many women are vegetarians but even more get creeped out by guys that get enjoyment out of torturing and killing animals. I'm a "mostly vegetarian" myself. But I know that there is nothing wrong with killing animals. Animals kill each other all the time. It's nature and we are a part of it. Showing that you have catched your food doesn't suggest that you like torturing animals. Not at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:12 PM
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“a key that opens many locks is the master key, a lock that is opened by many keys is a shitty lock”. You do realize that women are the keys here right? Women can show a little bit of skin and men will flock to them in hoards. Men are the shitty locks that can get easily opened by random keys at their will. If you are going to use stupid analogies, don't use this one. It's really stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:17 PM
4

So what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:20 PM
5

Why are they taking what women offer instead of making an offer to the women they want to and letting the women decide to take what these men offer?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:06 PM
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Politely, directly and definitely. Don't leave any room for interpretation and maybe throw in a compliment for trying. Basically, the same way I would like her to reciprocate. I give you a clear offer, you give me a clear answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:04 PM
1

she's the only person where the sex improved as she got to know me more. Dude... you cracked me up. I'm pretty sure most women would have better sex with men overtime IF men wouldn't drop the ball and become complacent with it. Women tend to want growth, excitement and wildness while men tend want to feel the pleasure, cum and roll over.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:43 PM
0

That's fair. I bet that he was suppressing his desires though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:47 AM
1

Sure but attraction is primal. In your example, it's either not there or you suppress it. I don't believe in doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:35 AM
0

I'm glad you understand that but you can always do yourself lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:13 AM
2

Well you do you. But safer sex has allowed most of the society to move on from limiting their desires to such an extreme length. Most everyone recognize that sex is a good thing and it feels good even if you don't do it with person you are going to marry or be super serious with. No need to be a hoe but no need to be nun either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:03 AM
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I have no idea what it would mean to be in love with someone you haven't experienced the intimacy of sex. I understand that in previous generation it was normal to try to subdue your desire for the other person but I don't believe in doing that. I act according to what I know and feel. The only other option is - be friends first. But I have no idea what it would mean to not be sexually attracted to someone, become friends and then suddenly want to fuck them. That's weird to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 10:51 AM
1

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 09:04 AM
3

So the question "what do men want" imples they are in power?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 09:02 AM
4

That is why birth control and abortion exist As if our minds, that figured out birth control, isn't part of our biology. As if abortion isn't an evolved behavior in favor of having pleasure and bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 07:29 AM
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Is your leg for walking? Yes. Is your leg for jumping? Yes. Multiple uses give multiple purposes. This is not my invention lol. It's the normative understanding of western culture. Some biologists go even so far as to say that bonding has surpassed reproduction as the primary role of sex for humans. You are simply incorrect. Your opinion of what sex should be for doesn't correspond with how people actually use this biological mechanism of ours.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 07:13 AM
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Sex is a mechanism for reproduction. For humans sex is also a mechanism for feeling pleasure and bonding. We are one of the rare animals that have sex for non-reproductive reasons. How this hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:50 AM
6

Most human sex doesn't produce children because that's not it's purpose. It's purpise is pleasure and bonding!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:44 AM
8

Humans have sex mostly for pleasure and bonding, and reproduction is not on their mind most of the time. Kids have very little to do with most of the sex that's happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:18 AM
2

I am though. Words are important and have different emotional impacts. Your language usage makes a much more emotionally impactful statement then warranted by the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:52 PM
5

Im pretty sure they want to fuck a human not a member of other species or an object. I think you mean to say they don't care about their personallity and feelings as long their needs are met. Btw, I know im being an ass and taking things a bit too literally ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:52 PM
2

What's immoral about paying other people to please you? Is paying for a personal chef immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:48 PM
2

It's a pleasure thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:47 PM
7

Paying for a service doesn't mean you don't see the service person as a person. You can go get a haircut without making your hairdresser a product. They take care of some of your needs, you give them money. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:46 PM
1

You can't imagine romance without sex Yes. as you think sex is the whole point of the relationship. No. Sex is the core. Fuckbuddies - sex is the core, not much else happens Fwb - friendship is the core, sex sometimes happens Gf/bf - Two possibilities. 1st - sex is the core and friendship builds above it (this is what I have). 2nd - friendship is the core and both parties have become attracted to each other over time and decide to be monogamous (basically a monogamous fwb). I can't imagine not b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:04 AM
1

Lol, no. I would do a picnic in a park with with a friend. I would also do a camping trip with a friend. Those are not exclusively romantic activieties. Those are things people who like spending time with each other do. What makes those activities romantic is what we feel, how talk and look at each other and above all else the fact that we are planning to have sex. If our relationship wouldn't involve sexual tension those romantic activities would be platonic - e.g. not bf/gf. No sex, no bf/gf!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:42 AM
1

Maybe that she thought he was attractive from the get go and he liked her looks, personality and the connection that's formed between the two enough to propose. What else should it mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:08 AM
1

There is a difference. Women have the biological position of being the chooser. Women can afford being arrogant and/or scared because there will always be men who will bridge that gap. Fortunately for men that also means that simply acting on your desires and displaying confidence improves your attractiveness. By confidently moving closer to the woman you want, you become more attractive to her (if some other qualities don't make you outright unattractive to her of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:22 AM
1

Ya it was/is: Yes, and there is a word monogamy inside it, not quite how you portraid it. Dates, flowers, etc. I rarely do flowers but how about a picnic in a park with duck feeding as an activity after eating or an overnight camping trip by a seaside? Those seem quite relationshipy things to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:11 AM
5

That means you want them be interested in you before they have talked to you and evaluated your personality. Either you think you are super good looking to grant that response and/or you are afraid of rejection once they start evaluating your personality and a woman approaching first eases the blow on your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 09:59 PM
2

The point is you are free to go your own way. Nobody cares. But if you trash talk about billions of people just because they happen to be of the same gender as the person who hurt you - that's weird af. No matter what your gender is. Also, there are dudes claiming that women who didn't sleep with them had hurt them because of the fact that they didn't sleep with them. So a person not doing anything has hurt you because they didn't do anything to you. That's also weird af.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 09:27 AM
1

The fact you think sex is a requirement to have a gf/bf is laughable. I mean kids have gf/bf status without sex but adults? Nah. Find anyone who will be happy with not having sex with their significant other... I just don't see people being happy in a relationship if they can't express and enjoy such an intimate thing with their partner. I don't see how you can call a platonic relationship a gf/bf... original meaning here which was doing friendship things while having sex means you have a gf. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 08:24 AM
1

I think you have a lack of understanding of basic logic. A (gf/bf) = B (having sex) + C (being together romantically and exclusively) So, A=B+C What happens when you take away B from the equation? It doesn't form an A anymore. Because for A to be formed both B and C are needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:41 AM
1

Never once have I said it's only sexual and nothing more. Then it would be a fuckbuddy type relationship. But it is A sexual relationship. And if a sexual relationship doesn't involve sex then it stops being a sexual relationship and turns into a platonic relationship. Im not have a relationship with gf or wife for it to be a platonic relationship. Ded bedroom is not my thing. Sex has to be involved or I'm out. In no way, shape or form does that suggests that there isn't any romance and commitme…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:20 AM
1

I guess so. I don't get how a sexual relationship where my sexual needs are being met automatically means it's not gf/bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:55 AM
1

So you admit again you have a fwb relationship not a gf/bf relationship. So bf/gf is not a sexual relationship where both persons sexual needs are being met? So it's a platonic relationship or at minimum sexually frustrated relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:45 AM
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Huh? If I would be married my timeline for it would be about 6 months. If we don't have sex for half a year I'm going to look for other women. That doesn't make her less of my wife, those are just my standarts for such an intimate relationship. I consented to a sexual relationship where my sexual needs are being met. If they are not being satisfied, I'll withdraw my consent for exclusivity and look for other options. Ofcourse it's hard to tell what I would actually do in such a situation. Maybe …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 10:19 AM
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So a husband who will leave his wife for a dead bedroom isn't actually married? Stupid...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 07:38 AM
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We are monogamous which by definition includes commitment. You are making it as if gf/bf is some kind of high bar. Many people come to that status within few weeks of being together, sometimes even if sex hasn't happened yet. The fuck you are talking about that I can't call someone I''ve known for a year and am in a commited relationship with my gf. You are not calling a spade a spade. To me, you just seem buthurt that a boyfriend could start considering other options after 2 months of no sex. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:46 AM
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Just because my standarts for a sexual relationship include regular sex doesn't mean that this sexual relationship isn't between two people who really like each other and have committed to be with one another. We have talked about it ourselves and come to the conclusion - i guess we are gf/bf now. And again you are mixing terms. Fwb is friends(1st) with benefits (2nd), so it's a friendship that grows to involve sexual activities. A fuckbuddy is your sex buddy, your sex "friend", so someone you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:32 AM
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A gf is a romantic partner that you are with in a committed relationship. Which is exactly what I have. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:20 AM
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I wasn't defining momogamy. I was defining gf/bf and my definition included monogamy which includes commitment. I mentioned in original statement about it. We agreed to not have other partners. That is commitment to be monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:13 AM
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I guess you don't understand what monogamy is if you think it doesn't involve commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 05:58 AM
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Fwb - friends who have sexual benefits Fuckbuddies - people having sex without much friendship being present Gf/bf - peope having sex monogamously over a decent period of time and also spending decent amount of time together doing friendship things Just because you really want to believe your interpretation, doesn't mean it's correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 05:53 AM
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Hijacking to comment. I was with you in the short version but in the long version you started to go waaaay of base. You seem to instantly forget the "Women hang out with only their EGOS in mind. Nothing else. Lookism is stupid. The way you text and act is what matters, cause women date according to how you play with their egos".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 06:15 PM
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I like how you know my inner motivations better than me and can correct my relationship status from a simple statement. A bit arrogant no? I don't do fwb. I usually have fuckbuddy type relationships. That's what I offered to her and she wanted it to be exclusive (no other partners), I agreed. After a year of it, who are you to tell me she is not my gf? Is there some convenience to the relationship? Sure. But I also really like her and want her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 11:24 AM
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No. We both know the relationship will end at some point because we have different goals. That would simply be a thing that would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 09:02 AM
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No shit, my life experience is affected by my life experience. You are a genius bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:09 PM
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Cmon, you did it anyways. It being true or not is not the point. The point is that such philosophical distinctions aren't useful when you talk about practical stuff. Your actions won't change if you believe it's an abstraction or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 08:58 PM
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Having a libido that's more responsive rather than active doesn't mean that it's lower. It just means that it has more requirements to be activated. The same woman can have completely different libidos with 2 different men. Her overall libido doesn't change just because some chump doesn't know how to activate it. When activated it can fuck your soul to the next galaxy. It might just so happen that the lack of masculinity in lesbian couples... doesn't trigger such sttong responses as in hetero co…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 08:52 PM
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You don't think it's possible to see the logic of their actions while staying at an internal loc level? Free will is way too abstract question. I don't see it's relevance at all. Lots of other stuff feel good because of socialization like someone winking at you. So what makes you happy is shaped by abstractions. Sure but those are not abstractions. Someone winking at me is a physical action that my mind has certain associations with. (Please don't pull the same trick you did with free will and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 08:40 PM
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Do you really see her as a separate being with free will? Do you hold her responsible? Respect her choices? Wtf has the question of free wil has to do with it? I don't a connection at all. Feels like it was a question in your mind already and just found a way to fit RedPill in it. If she is aware of that then it becomes more true and you will really have to “work” in the relationship never slacking off. No. That's not how humans work. We are not motivated by abstractions. We are motivated by wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 08:20 PM
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Huh? Red pill makes it easier to build trust. Truth explains the behavior you previously thought must be out some kind of evilness in the person and shows you the logic behind their actions and that even their actions are hurtful they are not meant to be. As a man, if you know that your slacking off at some point will lead to her finding a better option the you are no longer under any illusions. Redpill knowledge makes me be more honest, it's for my own benefit. Both when I'm seducing a woman fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 07:51 PM
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Sure. But maybe it's not enough for it to put libido into high gear.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 06:17 PM
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No idea about that data and no idea what it would mean. Maybe there isn't enough polar opposite "energies" (masculine-feminine). I know my girl gets the most excited when I'm the most strict, stern, direct, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 04:05 PM
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My current gf has had only 2 relationships and no casual sex before me... but she has had more sex. While I was sleeping with more new partners having sex 1-2 times a week, she was having sex every day with one partner. Women want sex just as much but it tends to be limited to smaller amount of people. How is this a hard concept...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:59 PM
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Oh wow, imagine the arrogance and self righteousness. As if no person would choose a quick buck in exchange for showing something they got for free, were born with and are often showing to someone for free anyways. No person would ever make that choice. It's just impossible... lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 07:19 PM
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Then shouldn't they be all for it? LVM support the hard working women of porn, get their release and leave alone women IRL. Shouldn't that be exactly what FDS wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 07:08 PM
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Well I was a little smoother than that but the gist is the same. I approached her, talked 2 min and exchanged phone numbers. Called, talked for 10 min, told her what I want and she said that she doesn't do casual sex, she has had only 2 relationships. I told her to think about it and hung up. A week later she called and said she wants to try. A year later she is still here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:25 PM
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Mainly because I don't believe this lifestyle to be healthy. Who are you to demand other people live healthy by you definition. Their definition of healthy might differ from yours. Mental health is not the same as having a health leg or something where you have clear definitions. I have no idea how these two approaches would play out, since I am unsuccessful and without much knowledge in dating/approaching. They play out very good. As I'm writing to you I'm waiting for a girl to come by for sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:11 PM
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What about the ones who do it more or less for free, or for the likes? Sometimes they do it for attention, not my place to judge their self-esteem level. Sometimes they do it for art, not my place to judge their self expression. Sometimes they do because they were abused as children, not my place to judge their misfortune. Sometimes it's something different, a combination or whatever. women also care when men gaze at them in public Because they have not consented to it. But why do you not believ…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:54 PM
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I guess there just are no women who complain about being pumped and dumbed. Pumping and dumping is when a man lies to a woman that he wants a relationship but dumps her after pumping because he wanted just the pumping. Women don't complain when the man was honest that he wants just sex and gets a womans consent to have just sex. Women complain about being lied to, not the part of having casual sex. Good women sleep around with multiple partners with the risk of catching STDs and possibly an unwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 12:32 PM
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Do you have a brain? Females had a limited ability to choose a mate because they had a limited ability to provide a living for themselves. The ability to take care of oneself naturally made it possible to not care about mens opinions who have a Madonna/whore complex and would provide you living only if you limited your sexual desires. opened the flood gates for men to use women for sexual purposes Why do you assume that women are not using men for sexual purposes? You think women don't want to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 10:51 AM
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Done lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 07:19 AM
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Lol why? Why is telling another person exactly what you think and want such a hard and difficult concept?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:15 AM
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What? Who said anything about staying home? You go up to her, introduce yourself and tell her what is the reason you are talking to her being as honest, direct and comprehensive about it as possible. What's so hard to understand about a simple thing like straightforward communication?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:13 AM
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Im always honest with women. I don't have some red pill lingo I would be uncomfortable speak to women with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:09 AM
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Why would a random woman want to hang out with red pillers when red pillers don't even like women and only care about sticking it in, feebly thrusting for 30 seconds, and then going home? She wouldn't. Nothing of that describes what I described. she's just someone who is looking to spend quality time with a guy, because you know, humans like other humans, and humans have emotions and desires. Exactly. LMAO why do men who have nothing to offer to a woman like to talk for all men. Don't know. A ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:08 AM
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wants to find guys to play golf with Yes, he goes to play golf. His desire is golf with good company. He'll ask "hey, you want to play golf with me?" If talking and getting to know someone isn't enjoyable Never said that. It's just that it's not my desire. It's not what's motivating me. Just like the golf guys desire wasn't to get to know someone, it was to play golf with someone. finding a woman to fuck isn't going to be enjoyable It's very enjoyable actually. I love seeing how a womans face li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:33 PM
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It's not that they are not interesting. It's that I don't know them, they are strangers to me. I don't go randomly spend time 1 on 1 with stranger men. Why would I do it with stranger women? Because I want uo have sex with them? And that's my point...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 08:18 PM
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All my relationships have started out as fuckbuddies. Because unless we have spent some time having great sex and have formed a good connection, I have no desire to just randomly hang out with you. It has nothing to do with how interesting I am to others. It has everything to do with my motivation and reasoning for talking to a woman. If it's because I'm attracted to her then sex is the core of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:14 PM
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It turns out that when someone makes an offer, you start considering it. When someone expresses that they desire you, you start considering if you desire them back. When someone asks you a question, you start thinking of an answer. It's an involuntary response.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:29 PM
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You’re essentially telling a woman I need to fuck you consistently to see if I like you. When a man sees a woman he instantly knows if he wants to fuck her. Women can make that decision in the first few minutes of the first conversation. That's the raw human nature. Nothing superficial about it. Until we have fucked I don't have a desire to simply have fun with her. To have that dedire would mean that I would be perfectly ok of it not advancing to sex because I genuinely wanted to jyst have fun.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:03 PM
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If my desire is to have sex with her and we are not at that point yet? I don't think so. Maybe if I would be specifically looking for a relationship. Then I could express my desire to fuck her and continue to evaluate her for a girlfriend status. But usually I have no idea if I want a relationship with her because I don't know her. Thus I don't have a desire to spend time with her non-sexually. I need to get to know her to have such desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:47 PM
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Having fun is bad term here. The implications was that you should want to do the activities that are fun for women (like bars or whatever), that way you'll have fun and she'll gave fun. An introvert like me doesn't enjoy such things. But I do enjoy talking dirty to a woman because that's just me expressing my desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:40 PM
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A woman will enjoy your company while you’re having fun. Why would I want to be hanging out with a random woman im not having sex with? Your problem is worrying if she’s having fun. Who gives a fuck? Correct. Their problem is trying to do stuff to impress her (have "fun" dates, etc). They try to avoid a situation where she has to either say yes or no because they fear to receive the no. They don't realize that the pressure to entertain is created by themselves. However the solution is not "just …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:31 PM
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Ive told girls I wanted something casual from the jump and they still fucked me. That's correct and good. You’re stuck in this weird mindset that this is impossible lol Never said that. Quite the opposite. I'm always upfront and plenty women reciprocate. What I said is that a man who chooses to be indirect THINKS that's it's impossible. He is scared of rejection and THINKS that without manipulation he can't get any.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:20 PM
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You can take a simple guideline such as in western culture monogamy is encouraged and expected. So monogamy is the default. But the real answer is that you don't know. You don't know what's going on in her head and you don't have to. You know what's going on in your head. Why would you not just say what's in your head so the other person can decide if they want to reciprocate? The only reason is that you think the other person won't reciprocate - won't consent. And then you decide to trick them …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:07 PM
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If you let them know it's casual BEFORE you have sex with them so they have a chance to decide and consent to your actual offer, then everything is fine. If you wait to let them know your real offer AFTER they have already taken you up on a different kind of offer (sex with an implied relationship) that's when shit goes bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 02:18 AM
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It's not about telling you love them, it's about not telling you desire only sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:49 PM
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Yeah, that's at minimum misleading. If she has to ask, that means that she doesn't know. If she doesn't know that means you didn't tell her. You are not direct, you are indirect. Indirect is about making a certain feelzy, lovey, relationshipy impression in her mind so she would be comfortable having sex with you. That's slimy!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 06:15 PM
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As long as everyone is upfront and honest I do not see the big deal Correct. But are you. I find that most men who want to sleep with women before a relationship is formed, don't come out and say they have no plans on being in a relationship right now. If you actually verbalize that for now all you are interested in is fucking her - zero problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 04:44 PM
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They're incels because women didn't select - here go women hurt them. You didn't give me money, there go you hurt me. Or again, they can yell at the people who hurt them Yes, at the specific individuals. get the satisfaction of knowing they're bothering them. Until, the police is called because you are a crazy stalker who can't deal with the most basic fact of life of everyone - rejection. what else have they got Getting their shit together. And if they don't want to deal with women, no problem.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:05 AM
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I guess you didn't understand that they are resentful towards people who they haven't had any interaction with... thus people who haven't hurt them! They can get it out of their system by taking a boat to the ocean and yelling into the void. No one wants to be the trash can in which you onload shit from your system. People avoid those kind of people... and boom - self fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:50 AM
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Lol, what benefit would there be to be louder? You think women will give them some pussy when hearing how no women wants to give them some pussy and women are horrible whores anyway? Yeah right...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:38 AM
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Im the opposite. They can be incels in denial all they want. Their misery is their own job to dig themselves out of. But being angry at half the human population of which most you never have had and never will have any interaction with... and blaming them for your troubles... that's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:32 AM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 06:51 AM
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Big difference as you don't have to be the hot guy to turn out a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 06:48 AM
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I don't think that's how it works for women. What I think is more common is a woman who is "turned out" by someone. The dick (and the whole package) was so good that it's hard for her to be excited by the avarage Joe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 06:43 AM
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No, it won't. And I strongly doubt it's 1%, that would mean 1 out 100 people you see is trans. That's just not the reality. Ok, so I looked it up, and ~0.6% identify as trans. So people who actually are trans are even less. The vast vast majority of people feel in their mind as the same gender as they are in the rest of their body. As they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:31 AM
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It does. There is a decent percentage. But it's still a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:01 PM
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charisma or other factors
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 09:59 PM
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Somehow I believe that part describes more of the female experience rather than male experience. I don't feel like I'm in a pornographic movie house in my mind but that's exactly the experience I try to create for a woman when I'm seducing her. I want her to have all kinds of dirty scenarios popping in her mind. For myself it's just a carnal desire. It's like a smell of a tasty food, your body instantly reacts and you start salivating. Same with a sexy woman - your body just reacts with desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 05:34 PM
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If she is hot, I would fuck her. Would I fuck her another time? Likely. Third time? Maybe, depends on how attracted I was (and am) to her and if some kind of chemistry is starting build.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:30 PM
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My desire and sexuality is usually tied to teasing and seduction, otherwise he’s just a hot guy. I've been saying this for a long ass time and dudes just don't want to listen. The way a man talks, holds eye contact and his overall presence are the actual determining factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:25 PM
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No because if I actually ask a guy who is interested in me if he wants to come over and fuck he's not going to be interested in me in a way I want anymore, he's just going to think I'm easy. That's BS. Not everyone is as judgemental as PP incels. Normal man who is interested in a relationship would respond with something like this: "That's flattering. But right now I'm looking for something serious. I've done my share of casual. How about you?" If that's not his answer, whatever he would have sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:00 PM
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This is horrible advise but thanks. It only seems to you like that because you don't understand how men think. It's the best thing a woman can do to avoid being lied to. I've never wanted casual sex from anyone You don't have any celebrity crush you would absolutely just love to bang? Well most people have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:44 AM
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You do have control over it. Ask a guy if he wants to come over and fuck the shit out of you or does he want to go on dates and build a serious relationship... you'll get your answer. the amount of women that just want sex is very small. That's total BS. It's just that guys who inspire to act on the desire for casual sex are much rarer than the avarage Joe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:31 AM
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It doesn't matter. A wig won't change her pussy getting or not getting wet from interacting with you. Men put on too much emphasis on what women say they are looking for. Of course if it's a 1 to 1 comparison then full head of natural hair will be preferred. But there almost never is a 1 to 1 comparison irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:57 AM
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Depends on the mood but usually yes. Sometimes my dick hits the right spots and there is no need, other times a little bit more attention on her is needed. She sucks me off if she finishes first, I do different things to ger her off if I finish first. I wouldn't expect her to be as enthusiastic about sex with me if I didn't lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:26 AM
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Lol, China is a shitshow for most people. Just because the country is flourishing doesn't mean the people are. The elite who controls stuff somehow gets to be on the waaaaaaay waaaay better part of the equality for everyone shtick. Go be a Uyghur in China right now. Let's see how you like being equally genocided with the rest of your family and friends...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:32 AM
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Stfu, when communism raped my country it wasn't Americans doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:10 AM
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Because truth is the truth and everything else is not. If he tells the truth and you are not interested - you reject him. No time wasted. If he tells the truth and you are interested - you reciprocate. No time wasted. If he lies that he wants to be your bf but only wants to fuck and you not interested him at all - you reject him (or you can play along and try to get some freebies out of him if you wish). No time wasted. If he lies that he wants to be your bf but only wants to fuck and you are in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:20 AM
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Stop being so thirsty and be flirty or fun or something. Wrong solution though. You want them to stop being thirsty and be truthful. Not everyone's sexuality is "flirty and fun", it doesn't need to be. You want men to not be pushy (no thirst as motivation) and tell you exactly what they want from you so you can make a fully informed decision. That involves you not freaking out and accusing him with "you think I'm a slut?" when he tells you that he wants to fuck you. As long as he is not pushing …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:05 AM
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Huh? It's exactly what I explained it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:54 PM
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war War is seperate thing though. It's much more complicated as everyone wants everyone elses resources. Consensual international trade represents capitalism. Brutu force robbery represents itself. And a rule of law demanding a surrender of resources for the main "capital" to decide what to do with it represents communism. It does seem confined to a few individuals on both though On the left they go as far as cancelling themselves to prevent group think ganging up on them. On the right it's a sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:38 AM
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The difference is that capitlism doesn't kill you for the sin of having opinions about it. Look at cancel culture, making lists of "the enablers", etc... that is totally not on the scale of "you are not allowed to have differing opinions about our system" right? Right... Btw, you could say real capitalism hasn't been implemented either. Government subsidies that take everyones money trough taxes and give it to the wealthy to drive out competition... doesn't really create a free market environmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 09:03 AM
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Well, they always say real communism hasn't been done so their instantiation of it is somehow new and better and won't kill millions of people for simply not wanting to be a part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:41 AM
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Most people think the ideas of their generation are new and groundbreaking. Just look at the woke people flaunting communism as if it's the next best thing lol. To protect their self interests women tend to hide their actual sexuality. So when dudes find something out it feels revolutionary to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 05:33 AM
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Well, response of vast majority of women is "I don't like rushing decisions under pressure". Not verbally, naturally. That's a completely normal response. Even verbally. The last thing I would want is a woman to feel rushed when making intimate decision with me. I want her only when she is ready to enjoy what I have to offer. And that's exactly what would be my answer to her. The thin ice lies in whether you are thirsty or not. If you are thirsty, you care about every little detail of her emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:25 PM
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especially as a response to IOI. As an average man you can play the waiting game until you die a virgin lol. However the way I remember, it was you who had to solicit consent, Yes, when you have an intention towards another person it's on you to let the person know what you want so they can choose to consent or not. If you want a sandwich it's on you to let person know you want it so they can choose to sell it to you or not. The basics of basics of how a society works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:42 PM
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The fuck are you on about. You are talking as if your desires are harming women. Lol women love attention. They fucking love being desired. And a man who doesn't beat atound the bush is a fresh air amongst all the little tip-toers who don't want to upset her feelings. You can have a good-hearted conversation after rejection... even with the boyfriend. If she has a hot chick, he knows it. And if she liked talking to you just rejected your desires, most dudes won't have a problem with that. There …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:24 PM
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Ye, I've heard modern TRP is supposedly all about rapey shock trooper approach. Sure the deer in headlights shock heightens suggestibility a lot, but might as well use a hammer for that. No restraining orders yet? That's the thing - it's the exact opposite of it. Nothing rapey at all about telling what you want and waiting for the other persons consent before you take the next step. It's what women are asking for - the decency from you to let them know what you plan to do so they can decide if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:49 PM
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I think you have lost yourself in the physchobabble a little too much. You see her, you go talk to her, she allows a conversation to start (you can do an intriguing question/comment if you need). You get into her space by leaning forward. If she doesn't lean away, you start whispering into her ear you desires. For example "Listen I think you are very beautiful. And I would love to see you naked in my bed someday. Let's talk sometime soon over phone to see if can make something happen". Be prepar…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:10 PM
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This part is specifically she's convinced "we're together" while you've said exact opposite. Huh? If you're uggo Only if you are such an uggo that she won't talk to you at all. Not even platonically. In that case be a sugar daddy. Still not much need to con (besides the legal necessities in the language so you are not soliciting prostitution).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:46 PM
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Why do a con when honesty works better and is ethical at the same time? Nothing in your con will make her pussy wet more than you whispering in her ear exactly how you intend to fuck her, for how long in which positions, etc. Your con can't beat biological triggers of arousal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:32 PM
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It doesn't matter. When you know you are in it just to stick it, it's wrong to willingly give the impression that you want something serious with that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:22 PM
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No! Look at the vast pua industry. All they promote is pumping and dumping. You can count on one hand the dating coaches who promote direct communication. Most of the others promote taking women on dates, building rapport, making them emotinally invested, etc... to make her think a relationship is forming.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:18 PM
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imagine how unpleasant life would be if everyone just laid out on the table their every thought and intent. If everyone just laid out their intents, the people with simmilar intents could get together and enjoy what they want to do. And people who didn't want to be involved in other peoples intents, could just remove themselves from unwanted situations preemptively. Everybody is happy!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:13 PM
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Sure. Some ambiguity is normal. But the goal shoold be to have as little as possible so both people could make a fully informed decision. Women want to just fuck too. But don't mislead them into thinking that a relationship is already on the table while you either don't know if it is or know that it isn't. Pumping and dumping is a specific thing. It's when you want to fuck but pretend you want a relationship or purposefully let it be ambigous that you kind of be open to it. So she has built up h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:09 PM
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I guess I've just used to incels calling every attractive girl a slut who will cheat on you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:15 PM
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Yes a risk, as it is with everything in life. The "huge" part is irrelevant. There is nothing that actually explains why there is huge risk. The only thing that's given is that she is attractive. So I take it to be a subjective view from OP that's more like "huge risk if you are someone who is not confident and thinks you don't deserve a hot girl so she'll sense how insecure you are and will find someone better".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:55 PM
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Who said that she cheats? There is a higher risk just because she is attractive and attractive people have options. But nothing in the post says the she actually cheats on you...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:30 PM
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How often you don't say your intentions to get something? Like do you call to order a pizza and not say you want a pizza? Why don't you feel compelled to do so? I would say because you know that you will get your pizza if just say you want a pizza. You don't think there is a chance of rejection so you don't fear it. Why wouldn't just telling a woman that you want to have sex with her be the quickest, easiest, most efficient way to have sex with her if you think she desires it? The only reason yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:39 PM
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Other peoples cognitive biases and bad deeds don't excuse your bad deeds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:50 PM
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It doesn't matter what her faults and cognitive biases are that she falls for the same type of guys. It also doesn't matter what the norm is. The fact is - if she has to guess, it means you are scared to tell the truth. Scared that she will rejectet it so you hide it. And what that called again when a person hides the truth from another person? It just so happens the the norm is to lie and mislead. Doesn't make that norm a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:49 PM
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Does the guy let's her know what he intends to do before doing it? Has he told her he only wants sex? If she has to guess his intentions it means he is not direct. If he is not direct, he is indirect. If he is indirect, that means he tries to present his advanced it in a way that won't be rejected. If he is trying to avoid rejection, that means he is trying to hide his intended actions because she might not consent to them. It's not possible to pump and dump is she thinks it's only sex. Then it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:35 PM
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Pump and dump = lying and misleading about your intentions Selling bathwater = making an offer and letting people choose if they want it or not Not even closely the same
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:58 PM
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You can lie to yourself but not your dick. Fuck the one on the right until you find someone else who your dick is happy with and who also can cook, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:36 PM
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What women look for and what they respond to is not the same. Just because women respond fuckboys doesn't mean they want them for a relationships. It's in the name - "a boy for fucking". And a fuckboy is usually a smooth talker btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:30 PM
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It doesn't apply that well to modern situation where any time she's slightly bored she can choose from a thousands of fuckboys by any superficial criteria. And arrange that sexual story with that chad with 8 inches down below without overthinking it. You do realize that it's a minority of women who do that consistently right? Sure there are some who like it. But in generally - nope. Most women hate the tinder experience. Many aren't even intrested in trying. If they try, they see a candy of a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:01 AM
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Yet it's not random. It's woven into the wisdom of past generation. For example a saying to which most women agree to "men love with their eyes, women love with their ears". Auditory input can have really profound effect on how a woman feels and what she feels (has been tested). Also men get aroused by naked women, women get aroused by anything and everything sexual (has been tested). So if you can get her imagination going into sexual direction and create a sexual story in her mind that involve…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:36 AM
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The thing extraordinary experiences in dating is that it's hard to replicate them in a study. Not because it's not possible but because most men don't have much seduction skills at all. So studies will show attractive men getting laid via attraction and possibly seduction (which they have learned thanks to positive reinforcement from attraction)... and average men not getting laid. But testing for avarage men with seduction skill is not easy because how do you find them. It would need a really s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:36 AM
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This whole thread is me doing that. It's rare to get logical, coherent responses though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:21 AM
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When engaging in a conversation people usually try to make their case and show that what they are saying is true. Especially if the other person isn't convinced.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:14 AM
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Your lack of belief doesn't invalidate my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:06 AM
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I never said your feeling are invalid. I just can't imagine what would be so bad that you would better choose to dwell in past instead working on future. I've had plenty bad feelings. Normal people move on. And if it's not an actual trauma, then, yes, in my opinion you are weak for not being able to deal with your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:05 AM
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BS. I've fucked plenty women who were like "meh" when I approached them, but when I started ear fucking them with my word they were ready to have sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:01 AM
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Having hurt feelings? Being embarrassed in front of people? Those are things everyone experience. So I really can't imagine something a woman who had sex with you could do that's so humiliating you give up on women overall. There are people who are raped, cooerced into actual humiliation on video for the world to see, etc. I have a hard time imagining that your experiences come anywhere near that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 08:59 AM
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Sure, but what do you do if you don't capture her immidiate interest by attraction? You demonstrate your sexuality to her and give attraction another chance to develop (by trying to seduce her). If it does good, if it doesn't you have done your best. If you don't give her another chance to develop attraction besides just looking at you, you have NOT done your best.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 08:44 AM
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mainly because it cones with the cost of humiliation afterwards What would that be? I can't even imagine what could be so bad. and also sex isn't that great And why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:14 PM
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My whole life experience says otherwise. Have you ever been extremely direct with a woman? Laid out exactly what you want and don't want with her? Learned to do it in a smooth way? is considered impolite. Who cares? That's fear of rejection from strangers. Unless they are going to come and stop you talking to the woman of your interest, why the fuck does their opinion matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:39 PM
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We'll be optimistic and say that 1 women in 100 would be perfectly okay with my 5'6. That's not how it works. Women will forgive a drawback in face of a strong benefit. The percentage if higher. you go out every Friday night and meet 5 new women every time you go out If you live in a decently sized city, you can talk to 20 women in 2 hours of taking a longer route of walking to your home after work. No need to waste time in clubs and stuff. You may really save a few hundred thousands of spare bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:13 PM
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realize that deal-breakers are called "deal-breakers" for a reason Working harder doesn't mean that you will convince someone to not have the deal breaker they have. It means that you will have to work harder on finding a person for whom your shortcoming is not a deal breaker. And a what's a better way to find such a person by showcasing some other qualities you might have that are very attractive, such as direct, straightforward honesty? Who do I blame? That's you who try to constantly blame me…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:07 PM
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So I draw an appropriate conclusion. Women are not interested in what I can offer, thus I don't bother them. That's fair. But you made an impression that it was your choice to not bother the doll who sits there and wants to be entertained. Not at what you are saying here. Also, have you offered your actual true genuine offer nor just the mild, censored socially pleasing one? Can't say for all men, but I have a strong feeling most of them never censored themselves in the first place. LoL, no. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 08:42 PM
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That's basically the recipe to be creepy. Expressing your sexual desire to the women who didn't make it clear that she wants you already is the definition of harassment. Ha, I knew you are going to trip up here. Harassment is when you continue to offer your offer after rejection. Make your offer for the 1st time is not harassment. And why are bothered about what she thinks of you. Being creepy is not a crime (and don't say it's soon going to be, it's not). You are going to have to risk being per…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:59 PM
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Why are you focused on tinder? Tinder is obviously mainly about looks. It's how the app was designed (mostly by men btw, so don't blame women). And OLD in general because removing the physical interaction takes away the mechanism of how women actually choose mates (so their sense of what they would choose IRL is hyperfoced on the visual just like it is for men). don't know how you imagine sexual attention having something to do with expressing your personal desires Because IRL you can capture th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:30 PM
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To get a friend you need to be interesting to that person. To get a girlfriend you also need to be interesting to that person. You can become interesting in many different ways. Most of them don't require you to put in any effort if you already naturally are the kind of person the other person seeks an interest in. If you don't have any interesting qualities about you then you can develop them. But most people don't need to. What they need to is stop censoring themselves so they actually stand o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:08 PM
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It doesn't make her a pickme though. It's like the buthurt dude who calls a woman a whore because she rejected him and didn't sleep with him. It's just a meaningless, empty insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:59 AM
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Men define "slut" as a woman who sleep or has slept with lots of men, not a woman who likes giving blowjobs to his boyfriend/husband. Sometimes. Other times judgmental men feel disgust upon learning their wifes did wild stuff in the past, even with only 1 partner. All kinds whores and sluts are being thrown around then. On the other hand, a woman who has had anal sex and gave blowjobs to all men except her husband/boyfriend is a stupid cunt. It is possible to do something you don't like and come…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 02:13 PM
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There is sex and then there is good conversations, laughter, fun, different perspective on things, shared responsibilities, etc. you know - human relationship things. Why do you have friends? Only so they could help you through your lowest moments?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 01:35 PM
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Doesn't matter what they call it. It is what it is. Fucking is fucking and dating is when you go on dates in which most of time is spent not fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:05 AM
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They fuck fuckboys because they want to fuck them. Dating not the same as fucking. I'm a guy, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 08:32 AM
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Exactly. Even with the considerations above they sometimes are willing to take the risk because they really want to believe in the guy they are attracted to. That's a so far away from men who fuck sluts and then say they are disgusting and not worthy of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:15 AM
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Then it's totally a projection from those guys. The reason women don't want to date fuckboys is because they think he won't be able to be monogamous and/or he isn't financially stable enough and/or he isn't attentive enough to be a parent. It's not because they find the slut disgusting for a relationship. That's the mind-virus of judgmental men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 06:25 AM
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How about she just finds a guy that's well integrated regarding sex and relationships, it's not hard. I'm pretty sure, that's what they try to do. It turns out it is that hard. And she never knows what his reaction will be if he discovers she likes to be facefucked. Plenty of evidence all around that suggests his reaction will be "Eww, you let men do what to you. You disgusting slut. Go away!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 06:21 AM
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"Sluts are not for relationships" is very common troupe here and in society in general. If that's your attitude then don't be suprised that a woman doesn't want to be slutty in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 06:11 AM
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For example, there was a post in /r/sex about a year ago asking women if they felt more free to be experimental with short term partners, and majority replied "yes, because then I can do (dirty) things with this (anonymous) partner and not worry about being judged for it (as in comparison to if I were in a relationship). That's not a female version of Madonna/Whore complex toward men. That's how women respond to Madonna/Whore complex from men. If she knows that in a relationship a man wants to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:51 AM
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A person who doesn't see the benefits of being in a relationship shouldn't be in one. It's that simple. So the sentiment from that person shouldn't be "women this, women that". It should be "I don't want a relationship but be we can be fuckbuddies. If that's not for you then you are not for me." No blaming, no gender war and what not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:52 AM
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Seeing a life partner in one person and not seeing it in another is not the same as Modonna/Whore complex at all. Modonna/whore is a specific case of that which is based on how you perceive the sexuality of that person (discriminate vs indiscriminate). It's taking only one perceived quality and making it the main thing. On the other hand, for normal qualifications people usually go with qualities such as kind, caring, good conversationslist, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:42 AM
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You put up your standards. She doesn’t meet em, you leave her in the dust. No need to create drama. Exactly. Yet the guy you defend, doesn't put up his standarts. He accepts something he doesn't want (waiting to have sex). It's his choice. Which is why I don't agree he is correct in his blaming of the woman if he is the one who accepted something he doesn't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:57 PM
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I understand the difference but don't see the relevance. A guy who waits for sex chooses to wait. If he didn't choose it - he would let her know he wants to fuck from the get go. But he doesn't. Why? Probably because of fear of rejection. The only difference is that I don't have that fear. I don't get into a relationship for sex. He does. And then complains about what he choosed to do and puts the blame on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:51 PM
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Right now I'm a boyfriend material for one woman. We started as fuckbuddies and now are kind of getting more serious. Im in a relationship and didn't "have to pay more" like it's a purchase you weirdos.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:36 PM
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Not my problem. I learned that women get really turned on by blunt, direct, honesty and patience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:33 PM
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I agree with that but that has nothing to do with your statement that "You give it freely to others and then expect me to pay is basically an insult." Nobody is making the guy pay. He is choosing to have a relationship and if he is doing it only yo get sex then it's understandable why he is upset. But a relationship is not just about sex. If you want only sex - be a fuckbuddy, don't go for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:29 PM
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Show me where I said sex is not important.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:26 PM
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Are you banging fatties? Most women I've been with were about half my weight... so no. I can't say if it's most, I don't think so, but those who are into it are really into it. No shit. The crazy are actually crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:25 PM
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Huh? Where did you get "a relationship with no sex"? If a man is in that kind of a relationship and he wants sex he should leave. That wasn't the topic though. You give it freely to others and then expect me to pay is basically an insult. Again, you are discounting the actual relationship and make sex the only important thing in it. If you don't care about other aspects of a relationship, then why are you trying to have one? Figure out how to be a good fuckbuddy if that's what you care about...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:23 PM
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In no way shape or form did i suggest otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:13 PM
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I doubt it. Most men don't get casual sex. Or if they do have to fuck fatties. Most men have 0 seduction skills. You're awkward and get casual sex? Are you Zoomer? Im 30. Im awkward in most social situations except when it comes to being with a woman 1 on 1. Lulz. Women chase after taliban tier guys. At least in Northern Europe. Lol nice fantasy. Im sure there are some stupid ones but to say that most women chase after taliban guys is top tier delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:12 PM
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Only sex = fuckbuddy Sex + plenty other considerations = a relationship No sex = not a fuckbuddy and not a relationship This is basic shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:47 PM
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They require less because Chads have higher value. Women know that sex is the price of admission to a higher value guy. No. Chads are not the only type of men women engage in casual sex with. I most certainly am not a Chad and have had plenty casual sex. My "value" is not that high. Im skinny fat, living with roomates, kind of awkward, decently tall though. Yet I know how to be a good sex partner so that's what I get to be. Men care less once the woman has been used by other men. Judgemental men…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:41 PM
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Huh? I'm saying that I'm qualifying her for a relationship just as she does me. If the other person doesn't offer the things I want besides sex then it's not going to be a commited relationship. You seem think that a relationship at it's core is just about sex. We completely disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:21 PM
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So? That doesn't change the fact that a relationship is way more than sex. I don't get into relationships with women I'm just fucking and there isn't much else to it. Once we develop a bond and we like each other in and out of bedroom... that's when a relationship appears on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:10 PM
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So you think you only get sex from the union between you too? Then why are you in a relationship if you think that you get the same thing as the fuck toy? The point of a relationship is that it's more than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:00 PM
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Let's assume that sex is equally good with both men but one is marriage material and the other isn't. Women don't treat the fucktoy better than the husband. They just require less of them. There are more qualities needed for a husband than there are for a fuckbuddy. So a fuckbuddy is free to do anything he wants, while for the husband she has more hopes and dreams for... so also expectations. Fuckbuddy is free not because she cares about him more but because she cares less.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:52 PM
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I agree that it's being misused. It's being conflated with "a dude who allows materialistic women to manipulate himself out of his money by dangling the carrot of sex in front of him".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:19 PM
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Did I use the word similar? No. You could say feminism is the cause of red pill. It's a counter-reaction. That in no way suggests that it's an analog experience to identify as one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 07:01 PM
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So blue pill is any comfortable belief that you want to belief that society tells you and we all live in delusion about. Well, that's more or less what the analogy originally ment. With time it has started to mean certain beliefs especially in a context of sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 04:36 PM
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At it's core blue and red pill is about your view of the opposite genders sexuality (mostly associated with men though). As a man, if you think all women are incredibly sexual beings who have a wild sexual side which most choose to hide because of social programming - you are red pill. If you think only a some of the women are these wild sexual beings (the sluts) and the other half are proper and even prudish with sex being reserved only for commited relationship (the good girls) - you are blue …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 03:47 PM
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Get out of your collage dorm room. Drop the weird cis stuff. You'll see that normal people don't perform their gender roles, they just do what comes natural to them... they also do good deeds for each other just because it feels good to do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 01:22 PM
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I not only find it nasty to hook up with a stranger after the club Why club though? Plenty normal regular people walking everywhere around you. scared to catch something Do a mutual test before you fuck. It's not hard. Also the fact that you never know if they wipe their ass right or not Ask them them to take a shower. Wtf, are you a child with no ability to communicate? Anyone else find it disgusting to have sex with random people Why random? A woman who I approached because I would like to sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 10:29 AM
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Sex for me is the most intimate beutiful thing you can do with someone Agreed. It's amazing. Sure, the intimacy is not as deep with a person I don't know that well yet. But a hookup evolves into an fwb and we start to really explore each other. I would bet that sex in my fwb relationships have been way more intimate than sex for many couples in commited marriages. Like this is the one act we can do that can create life Plenty acts can create life. You can help your dog find a another dog to impr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 10:17 AM
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low n means he was serious about that woman/those women and they made a pretty big impact on his life. No it doesn't. He might be trying to fuck everything that moves and just be unsuccessful in doing that. My guess would be that most low n guys would fall into this category (because if given choice they would absolutely fuck a bunch of supermodels).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 03:39 PM
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So? Just because we think we are cooler than them doesn't mean we are something other than an evolved biological living organism. Our evolution has faivored brains and precise limbs. It gives us certain advantages that have gotten so far that we dominate every other animal on the planet. We are the ultimate apex predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 04:03 PM
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And what makes you think that's not part of our animalistic nature? Is that some kind of alien intrusion into our biology?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 03:38 PM
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we are less animal every generation I would love to hear how an animal becomes less of an animal via the process of reproduction. Lol, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 03:26 PM
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For a guy, you seem to not understand the male perspective at all. No. I don't understand judgmental mens perspective. they want the wife material girl to be a slut for them. Nope. Madonna whore complex is originally about guys not being able to getting it hard for their wifes and having their fun with prostitutes (when it was way more common). Instead, many get the opposite. They get the opposite because of THEM. Don't you always hear "women are passive/reactive"? What you put in is what you ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:46 AM
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Why is the husband material guy not allowed to want to do the fuckboy stuff as well as the husband stuff? He is allowed. But he doesn't want to because "she is a wife material not a slut". The wife would greatly appreciate it. She wants to be railed. Honestly, the more empathetic gender is really lacking any empathy here. I'm male. I don't empathetize at all. It's the men who set the tone sexually. If you drop the belief that "good girls are pure and sluts are for the streets" you'll be able to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:21 AM
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The husband material guy needs to put in more effort because he is choosen not only for sexual stimulation, but for untold amount of qualities needed in a stable partner. It's not fair to compare whether the fuckboy has it easier based on effort. They are being selected for different set of tasks. Fuckboy: sex Husband material: sex + 567 other things It just turns out that the husband material guy gets buthurt if other men have/could get his potential wife with little to no effort. Because in hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 03:29 AM
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100% correct. It's like virgins shaming others about how wrong it is to have a threesome. OP is talking about love when the people barely know each other... and haven't made any serious promises to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 10:22 AM
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Like literally anything other than sex? Arts, science, sports, whatever. Most people have something like it (for many it's on screens though). Doesn't change the fact they want physical intimacy with another member of their species.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:23 AM
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Damn, 3 months. I wouldn't stick around even if I wanted something serious lol. Well, maybe if you would make some serious sexual promises that would blow my mind. Generally, I can immediately tell I'm not compatible with someone if they have these time rules and shit. Are you attracted to me? Are my dirty talking skills good enough to make your pussy wet? Are we both healthy? Then let's start doing what we want based on the information we have and with time, as we get to know each other, we can…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 05:36 AM
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Those are not high standarts, those are just weird standarts. Wanting a person who is willing to make such a big decision as having and raising kids with someone without knowing if you like spending time intimately with that someone... That's the same as being willing to marry a person without having had spent a significant amount of time neither sexually or non-sexually (or just one not the other). These are big decisions to be willing to engage in without any information of actual compatibilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 05:25 AM
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There should be just as much considerations as you would have for any person in trouble. Just sucks that too many people have that threshold also too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:26 PM
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Yeah this is weird. Maybe she is seeking a man with a certain kind of mindset, someone who absolutely wants kids and is willing to have them with a woman he hasn't been intimate yet. I don't think there are a lot of those out there. At least not sane ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:22 PM
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I have never met a guy who pretended to want something serious when they were just looking for sex Outrighy denying is rare. That's the sneaky friend-zone dude. But I haven't seen guys volunteer their intentions when it comes to casual sex either. Most just kind of dance around the issue and hope that the girl will understand correctly their subtle clues. If what you say is true, and most young men are upfront and straightforward with what they want... then that's a very hopeful sign for the fut…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:06 PM
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Lol as if I have never considered the most basic argument that's thrown around this issue. Cmon. Not shit women have bigger risks and many different considerations. Yet they still have casual sex. To be fair, most guys going for casual sex do it trough lies, pretending and purposefully being vague about their intentions. Still, genuine casual sex with her full consent is also on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 06:10 AM
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No, that's your blue pill programming talking. Women also want to just fuck... just as much. I've been rejected multiple times in transitioning the relationship into something serious because she didn't want it. "Just fucking? Hell yeah, I love the way you fuck me. A relationship? Now I have to evaluate whether you could be a good long term partner and a father."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 05:54 AM
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What is random? I'm in a relationship right now that started out as casual sex. Every relationship has started out as casual sex for me. I don't know if I want something serious with a girl until we have been fucking for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 05:26 AM
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No. Finding a mate is some seriously deep genetic stuff. All your actions are motived by it to some extent. Positioning yourself well financially grants you opportunity to place yourself in proximity of higher status people - better mates, especially from womens perspective. Boom, men as a motivated for carreer. Not so hard is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 08:48 PM
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That's way too generous towards people. To think that they are so stoic that they can turn-off their basic instincts of procreation and all the genetic programming that urges you to seek out a mate... Ofcourse it has crossed their minds!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 08:40 PM
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To be fair, these are all good things/traits to have. You just have to realize that basic attraction and compatability (which includes such things as his views towards a sexual partner) takes precedence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 08:33 PM
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This is how you know you don't know shit. A proper Chad doesn't need to lie or pretend. He can be just straightforward and upfront about his desires and the women who feel the same reciprocate. For example, that's why rappers can openly say they fucking 5 "bitches" at a time. Even if they are not even close to being an actual Chad. The more free-spirited, confident and nonchalant you appear, the more leaway you have in not following the traditional dating rules. As a Chad you get to circumvent a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:25 AM
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So what's the problem? Have casual sex or move on completely. Are you complaining about having to qualify people for your standarts?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 05:26 AM
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So you are bad at asking questions and evaluating her for the position you seek to fill?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 04:40 AM
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Lol, set up correct rules of engagement. If she is not willing to act in accordence to what you expect from both parties in a relationship, then why are you with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 08:07 PM
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What does competition has to do with you choosing monogamy only when the other person meets your standarts?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:52 PM
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Please tell more why normal people have to play games. I genuinely can't think of a single reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:42 PM
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Huh? That's exactly how normal works
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:29 PM
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How is it a strawman is the person to whom I replied, did it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 01:41 PM
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Then why is he with someone who doesn't contribute? That's his choice. It means that he was willing to sacrifice desire for contribution in order to have his desire to have sex fulfilled. Why doesn't he just have casual sex with the women that don't contribute and get monogamous once he finds a woman who does contribute? You know, like a normal person...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 09:14 AM
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A women that is sexually attracted to you basically considers sex the only thing she needs to do and most men foolishly accept such low hanging fruit. Do you even hear yourself? If she is genuinely attracted to you sex is not something she feels like she needs to do. It's something she wants. When you as women what is their contribution to the relationship besides sex, they always stutter. That sounds like the man is in the relationship for the sex provided not for the long-term potential that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 07:31 AM
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Someone: "Personality has an influence on your attractiveness" Mgtow/incel: "But will it work if I'm a fat dirty bum with no teeth? If not, then it's a lie!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 05:47 AM
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Lol whaaat?! Living in your own fantasy world must be nice. Women don't want to make an effort for a man they are not that into. If the man doesn't get her gears running, she doesn't want to be jump-starting them. But if she has a genuine sexual attraction towards you, the effort to please you is bountiful. Basic stuff...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 05:43 AM
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don't believe in alpha/beta stuff - astrology for men. Everyone is a complex mix. Those are just labels for a collection of traits. Instead of writing the whole list, I can give you the name of the collection. most people don't move out of their parents' house until they are nearly 30, and don't really have any responsibilities other than partying. That's interesting. That would be considered a late bloomer and probably a lazy fuck where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 04:42 PM
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Two possibilities: A) They see you as too much alpha who doesn't have the beta qualities needed for a relationship B) They perceive you as having the body without the brain. Hot but not so bright.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 04:23 PM
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Maybe. But you can go look at FDS and other man hating subs. That's what's left behind after so many men have been doing relationship things to get sex while not actually wanting a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 04:06 PM
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If you don't care about hurting other people then I guess so. I always strive to leave people happier than I found them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 03:54 PM
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I'm from Latvia. We are notoriously shy and quiet. Doesn't change anything. What mostly happens is that dudes get socialized into being indirect (both by other dudes and girls). Then only the ones who are not socialy callibrated are direct and fail miserably... which then reinforces the appeal of indirect. But that failure is not in directness. It's in being a dumbass socially. You want to smooth, charming, seductive and direct. That's the magic combo. It's too deep of a biological thing for cul…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 03:47 PM
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That's an easy way to lead people on even if that's not your intention. The other person needs to know what you intend the interaction will be like before they have made a decision (such as to have sex)... so they can actually consent to it. I let women know I want to fuck them and don't do dates. They come over and we fuck. That is casual. As soon as you start "dating" that's a signal to develop feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 03:33 PM
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every woman that I've been with past the casual (7-8 dates) stage. Are you applying the word dates loosely here? Because to me casual and dates don't go together at all. If I'm taking a woman on a date that means we are past the casual stage and are starting to get serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 03:12 PM
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Your personal story is telling. Did you spent the 2 hours making her pussy wet with raw animalistic imegery of fucking or did you spent the two hours leading the conversation about topics that basic friends would discuss? It doesn't take much time to express your specific interests and desires to a person. Did you? As for the chad - well yeah if she has the hots for somone that someone doesn't have to do much. But that doesn't mean that someone who she don't have immediate hots for, can't make i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:23 PM
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personality, presence etc. is derived from looks. a gregarious average guy is "funny", the same hot guy is the centre of attention. a sexual aggressive hot guy is confident, the same average guy is creepy To some extent but again it's greatly exhagerated. If you are being perceived as a creep while being sexually direct and straightforward (aggressive can be misunderstood) it's more likely that you are doing creepily. Black-pill dudes don't have "game", they are not charming and seductive to tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:39 PM
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Sure. But the black pill community acts as if being extremely unattractive is extremely common. It's rare that I see dudes thst bad and they are usually homeless. Most incel pics I've seen are of average men. Average dude totally can develop such strong personality and dominant presence that it overcomes his averageness. If you are little below average... the chances of doing that drop down significantly. But I still believe it's possible. If you are so ugly that peoples eyes hurt looking at you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:42 PM
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When my current gf saw my mid and highschool pics she said that I was an ugly fat kid growing up. I was definitely also weird and shy personality wise. Now, I've had many women lust over me and begged me to fuck them (literally). Just because you are lame as a child doesn't mean you have to stay lame as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:19 PM
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What the OP writes is correct, AF/BB is incorrect. There are subtle differences in emphasis that make huge difference in the outcome. A proper long-term boyfriend / husband is not somone she is with just for the cash and benefits. It's someone she is genuinely attracted to and wants to be fucked by. It's just that it so happens that most men who have good relationship qualities, lack in the sexual qualities that makes women purr and scratch and be filthy wild animals. But that doesn't change the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 11:24 AM
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just because we have lizard brains doesn't mean we are following their base needs all the time. Actually it does. It just doesn't mean that the needs of your lizard brain stand in the way of your other needs and wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:34 PM
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Lol, there is plenty of evidence. Women are simply good at hiding it from the average eye because a lot of men are too judgemental. Women keep being the perves they are just hide it from the men they think will judge them. Because you know what happens when the beta dude has his illusions of his good girl wife shattered...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 10:10 AM
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I literally just told you to go argue against the law... You will be exposed to argument from multiple angles and maybe will be able to provide a better reasoning for a change... and help many people. But seeing your mindset you wouldn't actually care for the truth and the appropriate punishment... you would just push your agenda like all the power hungry activists do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 08:55 PM
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But let's not be ridiculous here - calling someone names is in no way comparable to rape/sexual assault. Funny. For someone who doesn't like proportionality, you also didn't like when a lower emotional impact case was used to demonstrate logic for a higher emotional impact case. The law is supposed to be there so people don't run wild with their own punishments... because some people are crazy and will stab you for making the wrong eye-contact. Encouraging non-proportionality is to say - when yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 08:47 PM
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That's ridiculous. Are you saying that the punishment for rape is to small? The punishment should be appropriate with what's in the law. And if you think it's too small then argue for the change of law and see the reasoning why the punishment is set at the point it's at. If you accidentally call someone a name they don't like, they shouldn't lie and exhagerate by sayinh you used racist slurs when you didn't. That's straight encouragement of power tripping and opportunistic manipulation for self-…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 08:35 PM
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What does race has to do with anything here? Besides, that's obviously not what I said. If all women would go for only top 1% because anything below that is settling (and that's bad), that would result in billions of unborn potential babies, that would have been conceived and raised just fine by settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:28 PM
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It's a modern problem nonetheless. Your great-granfather and your great--great-grandfather settled. So did your great-great-grandmother. I think it's incredibly arrogant to act as if building a life with someone who is not your most preffered partner is some kind of a tragedy. Would it be better to build it with the most preffered person? Sure. But you don't get all you want in life. And the person who is being settled for should not feel bad. They are still being chosen and preffered over many …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:50 AM
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I agree that people should strive for a good partner that's in some sense atleast comes close to their ideal. But if your standarts include that there is no imperfection you can accept and deal with - not going to find anyone. And for guys encouraging that in women it means women would only even try fucking/dating the top 1%. That's effectively a genocide.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 06:36 AM
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You do realize that settling is what most people have done through the history our species. It's literally in your genes to accept lesser than ideal for the greater good of procreation. To create the next generation, you accept those who are in close proximity to you and build a life with them. THAT is what a traditional relationship is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 06:09 AM
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Depending on what you mean by success - if taking actions then yes. There are plenty of guys who are lame, get rejected all the time, don't get laid... but are confident. They confidently do stupid things. A lot of it in the world, has nothing to do with actual success.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 06:00 AM
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As long as you follow the two rules I layed out and maybe a third - don't use swear words, you are pretty safe. Work place is not a good place to approach women anyway, there are plenty of hot chicks walking in the streets all around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:49 PM
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What? Im sorry but I have no idea what are you saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 05:41 PM
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just gonna try to play it safe And that's your problem. That's stems from being unconfident. Very unattractive. Here is something for inspiration. It takes time to get to such boldness, but it improves your chances exponentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:39 PM
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Try something you think is just waaaaaaay out there and see what happens. Only rules are no physical touch and leave on clear statments of rejection (im not interested, stop talking to me, get away, etc). Universally women say that confidence/boldness/assertiveness is very attractive. How would you express that knowing you are free to do anything and following the rules above?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:18 PM
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But women may start wanting to be checked out by you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 03:53 PM
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People don't just act dominant in one situation and behave completely different in another, that's just not how people behave. Actually that's exactly how people behave. Based on different circumstances and different people being around your behavior can dramatically change. Ever heard of state dependant learning? Your mind can access and close different parts of it based on your emotional state. Your emotional state is affected by the people you interact with. It doesn't mean that you have mult…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:52 PM
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Huh? Dominant simply means assertive/leading/in control. It's just that when it comes to sex women get way more turned on when these traits are extra pronounced. Nothing about being dominant requires that you turn off the rest of your emotions. They are there if needed but not nearly as utilized as they would be in a non-sexual mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 02:15 PM
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As a man, it's impossible to have your time wasted by a time-waster if you yourself are not trying to waste her time. Time wasting is as simple as not being honest with the other person about your intentions to get something you want while the other person doesn't get what you promised/implied. So if a mans only desire is to fuck a woman but instead of being honest he starts to promise/imply more serious intentions - he starts wasting her time and in the process opens himself up for his time to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:09 AM
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Not quite. Here are my thoughts: You desire a man who is dominant/powerful, but expect he will be submissive to you. Women want a dominant man in the bedroom, a normal human with feelings in the rest of the relationship. You desire a man who is responsible/hardworking, but expect he will drop all his responsibilities when you want attention. Close enough. If the man drops his responsibilities too much the woman starts to notice it and starts to lose respect. You desire a man who has wealth, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 06:16 AM
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So TRP is specific kind of opinions about what's true about female sexuality and how to act accordingly. Saying that anybody who acts like that naturally is automatically TRP is false, because you don't have access to their opinions. Even though their actions are similar, those could be arising from completely different set of beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 01:02 PM
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the understanding of sexual dynamics and female nature. And what is that? Is it a specific understanding? Because there are plenty people with totally different opinions about what the truth is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 12:54 PM
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And politically redpill has nothing to with sexuality at all. The RedPill (TRP) is a specific thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 12:43 PM
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That's a little disingenuous. When a concept starts to build up a certain audiance, you can't attribute it broudly anymore. It starts to become synonymous with that audience. In this case it's sexually unsuccessful men who have come to realize something about female sexuality. So you can't say that men who act out the ideals of TRP, actually are adhering to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 12:36 PM
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Sure, whatever floats your boat. Who cares? Just sleep with people who you want to sleep with and who want to sleep with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 07:38 AM
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Huh? Because you are attracted to the people you meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 07:34 AM
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For reasons that make sense only to me, I believe that is necessary to set a bar for what can be deemed sexually successful. Why? Who are you trying to impress? This bar should be set at threesomes. Biologically sexually successful is someone who reproduces. So if you have 10somes everyday and no children... you are a failure. A man who is able to pull it off, clearly has the raw attractiveness that makes him inherently high value. Sounds like something an insecure person who wants his attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 07:25 AM
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Don't know anything about the person besides that my dick approves, so that's the only criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 05:52 PM
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From what I've found streets is the most reliable. In winter I usually stick to tinder I go to shopping malls.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 05:47 PM
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I go out in the streets and always can find someone to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 05:43 PM
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With normal regular women you see everyday walking around. I live in Europe, we have enough "baddies" that there is no need to go for fatties lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 05:33 PM
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That is soooooooo stupid. Just because he is decent looking and still doesn't have the "game" to have casual sex doesn't mean it's impossible. He is definitely in better shape and overall better looking than me. Yet, I have no problem getting casual sex. Because I know how to express my sexuality in a way that's appealing to women. These TRP dudes just keep whining and bitching about society is in decline, bla bla bla. Lol, just because you are lame, doesn't mean everybody else is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 02:26 PM
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He got what he wanted because there wasn't anyone to stop him from raping their daughters, sisters, mothers or just innocent women. Do you want to live in the world where that is your reallity? Where the women around you don't know when some dude is going to fuck them by force and possibly kill them? Alpha/beta is a social construction. He was alpha in the minds of men around him. Genghis was an alpha between his men because they themselves didn't mind raping women. Are you going to rape women? …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:49 PM
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Successful reproduction is not the same as being alpha. Plenty beta males pass on their genes. To be an alpha is to be chosen for a specific type of mating (one could say purely for mating). So what we see are that many of the "alpha" traits per TRP - physical size, high dimorphism, high testosterone, behavioral aggression - are associated with forced mating. So? Just because men who are desired tend to have such traits, doesn't mean that women want to fuck all men with such traits. There are pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 07:05 PM
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No. Alpha/beta distinction was invented by field researchers. The distinction has not been found to be accurate for humans. But we can use it anecdotally to theorize because it has SOME validity. However it's not women that group men into "alphas" and "betas." Isn't it a mating thing? That means that your potential mate is the one who qualifies you. If you are talking about alpha between males with no relevance to females, then, yes, they don't have a say in it. But as soon as you are talking ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 06:47 PM
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Lol, go ask any women if an alpha male is someone who rapes her or someone who she chooses to fuck...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 06:36 PM
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You do understand that humans have a much different mating system than the rest of the animals, right? In primates less dominant males use violence against more dominant males to drive them away from females + use force to mate with them. Give me an example of something similar for humans. You can't judge our actions and interaction by talking about other species. The closest thing I can think of is one village killing an other. But that still doesn't make all the males alpha's in the females ey…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 06:21 PM
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From the perspective of those women that's correct. They didn't want him. His mating strategy is successful, that can't be denied. But that doesn't mean that women would see him as an alpha male.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 06:10 PM
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That's a stupid argument. Every living organism has evolved through the use of force. Alpha/beta can be used in many contexts and take different meanings. In human mating - an alpha male is someone who a female actively chooses to mate with without any force or bribery being involved. She desires him for sex and/or genes. A beta male is someone who doesn't receive such desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:42 PM
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Anyone who uses force to get sex is a beta. Women are not choosing to fuck him. He might be alpha between males, but not for females.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 04:51 PM
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Cmon, don't troll. Even with all the plastic Megan is way hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:49 PM
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Every person is genetically driven to seek out the best genes they can find to procreate with. Physical attractiveness attracts others (duh) so the next iteration of your genes will have a better chance of multiplying. Life is not supposed to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 04:01 PM
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I know what creeps women out and how to read subtle signs of discomfort, and also how much time/conversation should go by before taking the next step. However, what you would discover is that it's impossible not to be creepy... some of the time. You have no control over how the person receives you... and their judgement about you is based on reactions inside their head not yours Easy example - 50 shades. I don't remember their names but if the chick wasn't attracted to the rich guy making his ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 10:30 AM
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If I am just getting to know someone and we have a good thing going, I don't want to be instantly faced with direct questions that will define what we are and what we want. This is exactly why I'm super direct. I hate having my time wasted. If I already know what I want, why would I waste my time on someone who doesn't want the same? I also feel like the guy cares more if he appreciates the slow burn rather than instantly tries to rush to a yes or no. Guys don't appreciate the slow burn. Women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:31 AM
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Tricked into bed? Couldn't it be ignorant of a man to assume that a woman doesn't have enough agency to willingly want and desire casual sex herself? That maybe if the guy is charming and seductive enough or just simply inspires the right tingles a woman can lust for him just as he does for her?! Any? I thought the guy complaining is the one who can't do it... which is the real reason he is complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 02:50 AM
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Im in strong disagreement with FDS so I don't know why you clapping 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 12:19 PM
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You'll notice that the criticism always comes from the standpoint of - she is making me wait, while Chad doesn't have to wait. So it's the sexualy frustrated who are complaining - e.g. the ones who women want weed out. And they are using the excuse of wanting a relationship while actually they just want to have casual sex because why would it matter that a Chad is getting something you don't want faster than you...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 06:37 AM
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As it always is. And then they wonder why they end up in dead bedrooms - maybe because you seperate lust from love and don't lust for the person you love. And because she doesn't feel lusted after for, she is not excited to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 06:30 AM
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a sexual jungle where people who got lucky in the genetic dice-roll get to have it all while others eat shit. That's a good evolutionary mechanism to select for the best genes to multiply. The only thing is there are plenty of ways to get around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:06 PM
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A hot wimp is still unattractive lomg-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:22 PM
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If you don’t know when the test/evaluation will arrive, you have to be on guard all the time. When it comes, it comes. Who cares. You are only worried because you think you may fail it... in that case she has all rights to withdraw her consent of being with you. If you actively demonstrate ‘weak’ behaviours she doesn’t even need to test, she can see them for herself Sure. In that case you are not the kind of male she is looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:11 PM
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being a dominant masculine person all the time I’m around her There is never a need for that. Im pretty chill most of the time. What you can never do as a man is let her walk over you. Women periodically test men for weakness to check if she is still correct in her choice of mate. But that doesn't mean you have to act all masculine and tough all the time lol. You just have to be able to react when her test comes in which she will put pressure on you (often unbeknownst to herself) to take control…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:05 PM
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slacked on being a full-time actor! It's not acting. If a woman stops pleasuring me the way I want, I'll also will leave. I leave because I'm not getting what I want. If she got with me because I ticked some boxes for pleasures she likes to receive and then I get lazy, stop trying new things, stop making sexual effort... she'll soon get frustrated because I no longer tick those boxes. Btw pimps often use drug addiction and violence to hook their prostitutes I'm perfectly aware of that. That's on…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:41 PM
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No. When you play the tricksters game, you set yourself up for being outmaneuvered. The way you win the game is by not playing. It's impossible for her to play her games if you put her in a position where she either has to accept your proposition or have you not talk to her anymore. There is no game for her to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:29 PM
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That's not how women work. That's some black pill crap. Some of the most notorious pimps where ugly or old and ugly. They made beautiful good girls into street whores. These women adored them. It's because of the power game the pimps had mastered. Whores left when the pimps game had holes, not necessarily because of his looks. That's an extreme example. But it holds true. I can point to the exact moments that I have slacked in being the "dominant man who she goes to to be fucked real good by". A…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:25 PM
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Women are rarely "into you" before the interaction. That's reserved for super chads and celebrities. For normal people you have to have some kind of interaction first, even if it's a minute long. What you look like, what you say, how you sound, how you hold eye contact, etc. all play a role in whether or not she finds you attractive. If she has even just a tiny bit of attraction towards you, being direct and being smooth about it... will improve that attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:12 PM
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It totally makes a difference. Ofcourse you want to look your best, but having a conversations that makes her pussy wet just because you describe how you want to fuck her... will totally help.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:59 PM
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Looks is not easy to improve. Having a one to one conversation in which you tell her exactly what you want and desire is not that hard. As long as there isn't a need for crowd control an introvert can do very well with directness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:49 PM
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So like real life? Exactly. He just insinuated that it might helps the poor dudes. It wouldn't. There is no easy dating magic bullet for men who are introverts, For introverts there is a magic bullet. Directness, boldness, straightforwardness. If he has the others drawbacks from your lists, then yeah, sucks for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:30 PM
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That would skew it even more in favor of Chads and extroverts in general. If a dude has a cool video of him surfing, doing fun activities or being in the center of attention in a crowd, while another dude just recorded an awkward video specifically for the app... it's easy to see which is going to be appreciated more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:20 PM
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What does that mean? Are you saying that online you are always in a yes mindset and are specifically looking to disqualify the guy or are you in a "no" searching for more "no's"? And in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 04:33 PM
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You just said that you have to take risk... People who get seriously injured in car accidents also express hurt. We still take the risks. The difference is that in a car accident there isn't someone trying to purposefully trick you into getting hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 09:23 PM
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That still doesn't mean you don't care for the outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 09:13 PM
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Accepting a risk doesn't mean you don't care for the outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 09:00 PM
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What commitment? A marriage contract?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:32 PM
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No. Pumped and dumped reffers to a woman having the impression (often carefully crafted by the man) that she is having a relationship and the man ending that relationship after one or few instances of sex. They very much so care about avoiding that. If the man was upfront and straightforward about only wanting sex from her and she reciprocated... that's when she doesn't care that much if he stays true to his initial statement and leaves. Why then not withold sex if she desires a relationship? Be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:30 PM
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For some species sex is more than just reproduction, it's also intimate bonding. Humans have an extreme versions of this. Some bilogists even say that bonding might have overtaken the primary role of sex for humans. So what does a person (male or female) having sex gets out of it if the relationship ends after years? Years worth of bonding and hormonal releases that they otherwise wouldn't have gotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:13 PM
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You talk a lot about what others should do to improve your situation, I talk about what you can do to improve your situation. That's the main difference from which our disagreements spawn I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:16 PM
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I agree. But reality is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:50 PM
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Because plenty other women say that "i didn't really mean no, you should have tried harder" and "men like to chase, why didn't he chase me ):". Men are the ones who need to try harder and leave you alone at the same time. He doesn't know if you like him or not before he has tried. So he will try.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:34 PM
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Not someone who clearly doesn’t want to be approached Because everyone is as good at reading minds as you Being snappy and direct ends the interaction quickly and that’s in my best interest. Because most people are nice and get the point. But with someone who isn't that will just escalate it. And guess what. The nice men approach less because they are scared of your reaction. The men who tend approach more are the ones who don't give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:22 PM
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You are in public space. That's consent to have interactions with strangers - wether it's with sales people, someone asking for directions or someone expressing interest to talk to you about any other topic. The way you handle their attempt at interacting with you will have an influence on how they will interact back. You being snappy at one man, won't teach the next man how to behave towards you. It's just going to make your own mood worse. Look at men as individuals, not a collective. There ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:10 PM
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Because IT'S IN YOUR BEST INTEREST. But the pride of being kind to someone you don't like is too much for you, so you better escalate the situation instead of deescalating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:51 PM
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You didn't understand a single word I said. It's your best interest to deescalate the situation. Which you will achieve by being kind but strict.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:34 PM
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Yes but on a human level the goal is not to fuck every woman that breathes. Never said it was. But sex is what motivates a man to approach you. If he won't think you are sexually attractive,. e.g. someone he would like to have sex with, he won't approach you. And by approaching he is putting himself in a vulnerable situation. You have the power to ridicule him and embarrass him. Don't be suprised if has a bad reaction if you do. It's his defense mechanism to save his social status. we need to sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:28 PM
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Women would say that a man shouldn't tell a woman of interest that he wants to fuck her. Yet I do that and many not only appreciate the honesty but also reciprocate my desires. You are still looking from a womans perspective which is largely influenced by risk aversion. Men have different motivations. If you want to minimize men being creepy later in life, encourage them learning how to be successful with women in school. An environment where artificial trial and error can be made will minimize …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:13 PM
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You are applying the motivation you have as a woman to men. If a man is going tonimprove, he has to try things he hasn't done. Doing new social things is inherently at risk of not being received well. But it's impossible for him to learn if he is not allowed to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:59 PM
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Some general social skills and even more so male teachers who are successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:37 PM
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Hollyshit. I specifically mention that I was young. You do realize that men don't come with a manual installed in their brains about how to act in every social situations, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:24 PM
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Plenty movies say otherwise. But from real life - usually good staring has happened when we first meet up and I let her know my rules and desires. But even with a total stranger I've had some quite long stare exachanges just as I have approached her and told her why I stopped her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:09 PM
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Well it's not obviously creepy. Intense staring has gotten me some very beautiful women. It just takes time to understand when it's sexy and when it's creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:52 PM
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As young inexperienced man I had no idea how should I approach a woman on train that caught my eye. At the moment I thought it would be a good idea to intensely stare at her because in movies intense eye contact leads to flirty sexual tension. I probably scared the fuck out of her lol. Point being, while men learn they can accidentally do things that are creepy af.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:39 PM
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I was mainly thinking beard but even simple thing as an earring can do it. Really depends on what the person actually looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:27 PM
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Some men choose to shave it off for style. It really just depends on whether you can make it look good or not. My guess is that the same women who say they don't want a bald guy would totally date a bald guy that has made the stylish choices to make it look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:31 PM
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It really depends. Some men seek an ambitious person to share their ambitious with. Other men want to seperate the two. But I was talking about the top top. And there is also such thing as social circles where certain people tend to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:16 PM
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It's not. He seeks two things (hot and with free time whenever he has free time), he gets both things. He is ambitious enough that he doesn't need another super ambitious person next to him, he just wants to chill with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:08 PM
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Both. Career women don't have a problem fucking a hot McDonald worker. They would just never have a relationship with him. Career men will gladly fuck and marry a hot, poor chick if she can take care of kids and let him do his stuff without nagging. The lower your own finance go as a man, the more you'll pay attention to a womans finances. The top dudes don't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 09:48 PM
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For men it's not dating down because her finances have 0 impact on her attractivness. It a plus, but nothing about her financial situation actually improves her rating. Women, on the other hand, find success attractive... it signifies power over others... so stability and safety for her and the offspring. So for a relationship, that's what they seek. You can't compare the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 09:34 PM
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It's amazing that so old and well know power grabbing, completely self-contradictory, criminal organizations still have so much influence and good-will in the society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 09:23 PM
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A carreer woman usually wants "an equal or above", so the more money she makes the less men are deemed worthy of her. If a carreer woman would be perfectly ok to have a relationship with a man who makes less than her, there would be no problem. Redpill dudes complaining is another story. Some men complain about career women because they are not compelling to those women (for the above readons). So more carreer women means less choice for them. Others simply see that women are trapping themselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 09:09 PM
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Relationships develop over time. I don't know if I want to have a serious relationship with a girl before we have spent a significant amount of time fucking. I will never get to know her respect for herself unless she becomes a non-virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:16 AM
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Any decently attractive woman has a lot of dicks being offered to her. If she rejected them all, she is probably too much hassle for me to deal with. Now, if she goes with my program like any other woman would who is attracted to me, I don't care about her virginity. Does nothing for me. I just know I have to be a little bit slower.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:00 AM
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No need. The (eco)system balances out everything so they'll die on their own. You are getting there Thanos, just a step more in your logic. There needs to be a balance. And you can design that in the system... Hate to say it here as well but compassion leads to ruin of the self if left unchecked. You can give your money to others to help them but if you give too much, you'll end up among them, and no smart person would put themselves in that position if they value their own life. The fuck does t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:26 PM
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Ok, then just kill em off... billion lives here or there... who gives a shit... they are just expandable meatbags anyway. placing a burden on the system The system should be there to serve the people not itself... or the 1%. Those who are arguing about fairness are usually on the losing side There should be no losing or winning sides. There should be "you live ok" and "you provided enough value to others to live in luxury". A compasionate person can at least recognize that having children starve…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:08 PM
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The world also wasn't filled with technology, now it is. The point is to move towards fairness. Like give people enough coin for shelter and food, and if they want more they can engage in the economy by providing some kind of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:44 PM
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Sounds like you are just an evil person if you think that The Hunger Games situation is a just world. Where rich are rich because they are rich so they are "good" and the poor can die in their filth like the scum they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:33 PM
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Lol, yes, someone who happened to be born to the right parrents and now own a company without any work at all is "surving because of fitness".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:07 PM
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Its not important to the people doing the providing. Those are evil humans. And they are not providing. If the machines are doing the work, then it's not "the lazy leeching of the ones who work", it's the rich taking everything for themselves, not doing any work and leaving the rest of the people to die in suffering. That's just evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:57 PM
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what makes you think that human well-being would be important or necessary Because it is important... to us humans. And people who don't care about other peoples well being are universally made out to be villains. Haven't seen Elysium, but the point is to prevent unnecessary hunger, suffering, fighting for survival, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:31 PM
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Ohh, i thought you meant absolete as in non-existant. Unless it's going to be a total commie overtaking with them giving you food and anything else you'd be allowed to have... there will still be economy in which people can participate, aquire money and choose how to spend it. In such situation UBI would prevent the worst that capitalism can bring - total lack of concern for human well beings. Because billions of people would instantly become useless and unable to earn a living... not because of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:57 PM
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Automation doesn't mean inteligence and it doesn't mean that robots will kill us...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:40 PM
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I think men hate it because it's just porn. It's not an actual physical experience with another person. So guys who empower it seem like dudes who are paying for nothing. Maybe real VR will change that, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 03:06 PM
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In the next 50 years technology could totally automate most labor. The world would't be less productive. Many people would have nothing to do (it's own set of problems right there). So some kind of UBI is a great idea to start thinking about. No need to push it yet, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 01:43 PM
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I'm a dude. Why should they be angry at themselves? Because average results are (in most cases, not counting the exceptions) reached by average effort. It's not much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:24 AM
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Most men on this sub don't take the responsibility for their lack of success with women. They yell hypergamy cock courusell and whatnot, just feel justified in their anger towards women. They don't direct the anger at themselves... which would then help to see what can actually be done about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:21 PM
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it's just she is just enjoying the carrousel, no big science. That's dumb. She is responding to a cock owner that makes her horny. She could have been saving herself for a long time but if the right cock owner comes into her life, she'll jump on that cock. avg men aren't chad, yeap that's why it's different. Chad is a specific kind of archetype. Most men who get decent amount of casual sex aren't Chads. "charm" "personality" PUA BS Had nothing to do with pua. My approach is like the exact opposi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:17 PM
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Women also like to try and experiment new things Ohh, i know, believe me lol. We were talking about men there not women that's why the emphasis on what men want. Also because he doesn't really know what he's missing out on. But also what you said and they're totally valid feelings. Sure. But say it how it is. Say that it's about you not feeling like you have fulfilled your sexual desires with other women. Don't scapegoat the specific women for having had hers fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:50 PM
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Female delusion: I can use Chad they way he uses me. I'm a dude, so yeay to my female delusion... I' m not a Chad, but know some and I have fucked around my own fair share. You fail to understand that what women search for in casual sex is totally different for a relationship. I can approach a rich chick, talk dirty into her ear and have her naked at my place in few hours/days. But I wouldn't be able to date her... because my finances are not up to her standarts. avg men are bad, mental and non-…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:36 PM
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Because for most men variety is really really appealing. We want to try all kinds of pussy before we settle down. The avg. Joe doesn't get to experience that. But if his woman has had her experiences, he gets mad. Partly because of the Madonna/whore complex belief that proper women shouldn't have those desires, partly because of envy of the Chads and partly because he feels like a failure for not having had what he wanted. It's not about the specific woman, except the Madonna/whore part.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:19 PM
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Nope that's not how it works. For a Chad sex is easy but relationships are hard. A real Chad doesn't care much for casual sex. He participates in it because it's pleasurable but it's easy to get bored of it. He attracts the most beautiful women who often happen to have boring personalities (no pressure to develop). He longs for something meaningful. When such woman appears in his life she has sex with him but if his financials or not up there she will still not have a relationship with him. For …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:40 PM
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A man takes a woman out on a date for “several” months and he pays for everything and they never get intimate with each other. And she just decides she's not interested in him anymore and he has to just accept it Why is the man doing something he doesn't want (paying and going in multiple dates for several months)? If he would do what he wants, he shouldn't have a problem with any outcome. Because he participates in the actions he wants to participate in. So it's a win for him no matter what. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:13 PM
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Indeed I am
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:33 AM
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Lol, honesty and directness is for the mans advantage. It's impossible to waste time on women who are flirting but not actually interested to have sex with you if you are honest and direct about your desires. In the case of casual sex, it also makes women more likely to engage in it. It turns them on to have a man with balls to speak his mind and confidence to not give a shit if he is rejected. If I can deliver my honesty in a charming and seductive way, it's the best "game" there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:04 AM
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That's fine. Not everyone has to. Just don't go around blamimg women for your lack of motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:43 PM
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Lack of trying. Look around, find a method that you like (I recommend ModeOne), go out and get rejected until you improve so much that someone reciprocates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:17 PM
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It's not women breaking their rules. It's women suddenly feeling the urge to try it. Generally casual sex sounds bad to most women because it brings out an image of a guy not trying to pleasure her and leaving her unsatisfied. That kind of sex (the bad kind) is what the rules are for, for the most part. But when a man has the charm and sex appeal to make her dripping wet, that's when an urge to engage in non-commited sex arises. Atleast for sober casual sex, when alcohol is introduced that's a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:18 PM
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This is the correct answer. It's not "I won't hookup with you even if talking to you makes me wet and horny and I want to touch myself as you talk dirty to me". It's just "I don't care for lame sex that doesn't get me off, so no hookups".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 05:39 AM
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Don't worry, you can be a billionaire and still see someone who catches your eye, approach her, let her know your exact sexual desires and let her reciprocate or reject on her own pase. Money doesn't change much if you are direct. It helps the indirect dudes to attract more attention (not necessarily leading to sex though).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 09:21 PM
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How is Faking your height to get casual sex from a woman wanting a tall guy different from faking your intentions to get casual sex from a woman wanting a relationship guy? I wouldn't justify neither. But faking height is clearly a lesser offense. Height is part of your physical appearance. If she finds your physical appearance attractive, whatever she chooses to engage with you in she agrees to do it with a person she sees. She might feel cheated when she finds out part of it's fake, just like …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 07:09 AM
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You are taking the argument to place where it doesn't apply and then trying to reapply to the original statement. Faking your height is completely different from faking your intentions. Men faking height is on the same moral level as women putting on mad make-up to appear beautiful. When the cosmetics come down and turns out she is really ugly, you'll feel cheated... but I wouldn't call it rapey. It's just slimy. Let's have another take: Is it fraud if you do not mention that you're planning to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:19 AM
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Well your height is a part of your offer that you can't really fake. When she sees you, she'll either accept it or not. The way men usually hide their offer is by lying about their intentions. If you want casual sex but take her on dates to talk about bunch of random stuff that has nothing to do with your desire to fuck her because "you need to build comfort and rapport"... that's you having the fear of rejection and hiding your offer so she wouldn't even have a chance to reject it. If you are b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:18 PM
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There is a difference between improving yourself to become more appealing to others so they would agree to your offer more... and hiding what the real offer is so the other person can't reject it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:57 PM
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No. I don't "hunt" for women and women are not my prey. I go up to them, let them know I want to fuck them and they choose to reciprocate or reject. These PUA's don't actually believe in giving women the choice to reject you. They are all about limiting womens choice in the interaction with you, to minimize the chance of rejection (removing the choice by being indirect). That is predatory and rapey. But it doesn't mean that all men do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:53 AM
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Don't know what you meant there exactly. It's no ones business to police other peoples sex drive. Men should approach in such a way to give women a clear and obviously safe way to reject without any threat of anything happening. Women should encourage men to be honest, straightforward, approach without fear and state their exact desires and intentions, so the woman can reciprocate or reject without any chance of the man being ridiculed or shamed for expressing his attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 06:42 PM
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Male entitlement to be able to sexualize women any way they want, treat them accordingly and demand women keep quiet, take it and acquiesce to their wishes it the topic here. I agree that that's bad. There was nothing of that in the gilete commercial though. That's the point. A guy saw a girl, went to approach her and another guy stopped him with a shaming motion. That's it. then turn right around and say “well if you keep ignoring us we’ll just have to start raping you.” That's not what I said.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 06:08 PM
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Never said it was. There is nothing in the gillete commercial thaylt indicates anything more. Oh the irony.... Feel free to elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:32 PM
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Being atteacted to someone passing by and going up to talk to them is not a bad behavior. Women continuesly applaud me for doing so even after rejection. All it does is promote the idea of passive males - e.g. unattractive males. So men who buy into that crap will get no pussy and men who don't buy into it will have sex. Because what women are attracted to didn't change. With time passive sexless men will start to complain that they did everything right, everything women asked of them and that l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:17 PM
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Emmmm the gillete commercial? Saying that it's a rape culture to be attracted to women? Plenty other examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:11 PM
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Call it what is is - sexual assault. Rape is specific kind of sexual assault. I agree that it's a bad thing and no one should get assaulted. That doesn't mean that stating false things will help to reach that goal. Or if reached, it will have just as bad consequences - for example innocent boys being triad for rape and groomed by prison system to be actual criminals. getting bombarded with demands for child porn of themselves from boys That's called negotiation and persuasion. Give girls more to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 09:59 AM
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He is on topic. There is a rape culture in muslim countries not in the western world. Calling unwanted attention rape is not only nefarious but also counterproductive to your cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 09:47 AM
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No. Atheism is about belief and agnosticism is about knowledge. An atheist says "I don't believe in god" while an agnostic says "I don't know if there is god". Knowledge is a subset of belief. When you say "I know" you actually mean "I really really really believe" because we all agree that we don't posses absolute truth. In short someone who identifies as an agnostic instead of an atheist is just someone who is made uncomfortable by the stigma of atheism. Instead of having a position of "I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 08:18 AM
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So true. Whenever I join some political discussion I get name called as an evil conservative or a naive liberal. Just depends on the issue but somehow I can reliably be both. I'm not sure why neutrality is seen as a polar opposite People don't understand what the word NO means. Take atheism. It's a simple statement about me not holding a certain belief. "I don't believe in god" doesn't mean "I believe there is no god", it just means that I'm in the neutral position of not being conviced. When yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:53 AM
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People like an idea and then prop up that idea and choose to ignore facts that could damage that idea. Woketism and feminism are very clear examples of this. Instead of searching for the truth they search for justice. And if the truth turns out that the justice that they seek is not needed because the injustice is either not there or is caused by different factors... they don't care. They like their idea and that's it. In turn they create more injustice because in their efforts to balance the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 10:51 AM
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No you assume assumptions. I really don't think you understand how assumptions work. It's not a choice, it's a preexisting thought pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:50 PM
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Maybe you are confused about what you are saying. Making assumptions is a normal and necessary part of conversing with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:47 PM
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You're on repeat
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:44 PM
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I sure did but fair ones I think. Unless it's your hobby or something...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:42 PM
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Im in the 40+ range and dont care about dating. My life is full, a man would just be an addition That is such a disingenuous argument considering you are receiving money for engaging with men sexually. Men are your livelyhood, darling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:27 PM
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That's just not true! So I approach a woman. We talk for 3 minutes, I let her know I want to fuck her. We talk for a little bit more about what that means. Let's say she doesn't want anything with me - she rejects, either by saying she is not interested or by going away from me. I don't really have a way to gauge their confidence from this. Now, let's say she is interested. If she is confident she will simply agree to my proposition as we are talking more. If she has specific boundaries she will…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:52 AM
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It depends on the star alignment and whether or not the person who she saw first that morning smiled at her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:02 PM
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Not in those groups but fat is self explanatory - hard to get hard. Single mother is 50/50 - maybe she is cool and we can fuck without her trying to make me her childs new dad, but maybe she will make all kinds of drama and try to manipulate me to give her money so she could get full custody (speaking from experience lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 08:54 PM
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To most women a dominant man is a man who leads the interaction, takes control, is direct, can put her in her place when she is being braty, etc. It's not the same thing as dominance between men. Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:02 AM
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mild aspergers engineers That's a red herring as that's not what the average dudes problem is. Idk why people on here think personality is so drastically malleable Because it is. Is it easy? Hell no. It wasn't easy for my shy, quiet, introverted, virgin fat ass to develop the confidence to start talking about fucking the girl in first few minutes of the conversion. I worked on myself. Read everything and anything ARC has ever put out. Faced thousand of rejections. Was confused, frustrated, didn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:16 PM
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Exactly. Even in his fat phase, totally not looking like Chad, he could get casual sex while being completely honest. It's about his confidence and personality - something the avarege dude can work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:36 PM
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Would you consider ARC a Chad? Especially in this video: https://youtu.be/L-CZYxUGBko
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:17 PM
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How does "making her feel horny with words" change anything about my comment? If anything that's typically even more in the vein of deception Huh? How does letting her know your desires is lying? basically the definition of a Chad No. The definition of a Chad is mostly about his looks. the number of dudes who will still have any non committal sex/hookups after saying "hey I don't want a relationship with you, just wanna fuck" that is like maybe 5% I agree that the average guy is not be able to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:05 PM
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It's not that women do casual sex only with Chads. It's that women don't know what they want - it totally depends on how the guy makes her feel. Consciously women move towards relationship so that's what they say... so that's what many dudes pretend to offer. But at any moment a totally honest guy can come into her life, start whispering some dirty ideas in her ear and all of a sudden she just wants to fuck. Because he made her feel horny. Of course it's easier for the attractive, muscular guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:52 PM
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True. Some people do. Sexual exclusivity just gives a sense of security that the person you are sharing serious commitments with (like children) is more likely to uphold their agreement with you. You choose exclusivity to purposefully limit the exposure of other people that might influence your desires. You trade in potential sexual variety fulfillment with something you start valuing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 10:05 PM
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I meet a woman. We start fucking. We keep fucking for few months. I develop feelings and start taking her on dates. It goes well. She has those feelings too. We want to solidify the status of the relationship so we could start thinking about kids, etc.. so we make it exclusive. What's so hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:50 PM
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Who are you to dictate why other people should or shouldn't want an ltr? Deep friendship, children, marriage, whatever... for each person there are different combinations of factors and reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:25 PM
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At some point you want not only good sex, but also good friendship with the same person. If you find that... why the fuck not?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:12 PM
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If it's an exclusive relationship then of course I would care. But it takes a lot of time before I want an exclusive LTR with a girl. By that time she would submit enough to me that I would feel confident that her needs are met with me. I wouldn't initiate an LTR without having the girl be very happily submissive, no matter what her n count is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:58 PM
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Yo do you boo boo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:35 PM
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You could say the same about high n men yet I'm pretty sure I wouldn't cheat. I communicate very openly with women about my and hers sexual desires and satisfaction. If there would be a need for other partners we could go poly. Plenty of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:01 PM
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What you don't get is that insecurities are not a bad thing. I do get that. What you don't get that is that I set the rules for my relationships (as can she from her side of course). My standards for a relationship are very high. I will engage in a relationship only if my standards are fulfilled. If she is the type of girl who would fulfill those standarts, believe me, I would be very happy in a relationship with her. Even if somewhere in the back of my mind I would still have some insecurities.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:32 PM
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I know. Being secure or insecure is not a choice. I don't think anyone says it is. There is a number at which I would become insecure comparing to the girl. But I'm honest about the fact that I have the problem not her. If she has had 200 partners, that would bother me because of MY insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:48 PM
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I've had my own share of partners but the point still stands. The difference in acceptence or not is made by how you feel about yourself. If a man with 3 partners feels great about himself he won't care, just as a man with 60 partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:24 PM
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You'd have to be a modern stoic to overcome that disparity, and like it or not it would gnawing on the back of his mind for a long ass time. No, you just would have to be not insecure, not much to do with stoicism. Why would I care if she has had 20 partners? Im the one who is fucking her now. I'm the one who is setting rules of engagement for the relationships I engage in. If she is choosing to accept my rules and have with me the kind of a relationship I want, why would I care? Am I not gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:19 PM
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It's a response to your hypothetical
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 02:25 PM
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The privilege of taking a woman out on many expensive dates which might lead to you getting laid That's your choice. That's what YOU are offering. She is not forcing you to take her out on dates. Why are you doing what yo don't want? And why are you not goving her a choice about interacting with you that you like (offering casual sex for example)? My guess - fear of rejection. You want her so bad, that you don't want her to reject having sex with you, so you rather choose to bribe her with expen…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:45 PM
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You can do anything you want in your self-righteousness. That's the modern philosophy, wokeness being prime example.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:09 PM
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Whenever I meet a woman that I’m interested in dating I constantly think about the possibility that there is a man that had to jump through 0 hoops to have sex with her, while I have to go through all sorts of hoops to even bring the possibility of a serious relationship to the table Then you are not actually desiring an LTR. If you would want an LTR, why would you care that other people got something different with that person quicker? Sounds like your actual desires are about sex and you prete…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:24 AM
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Wow that is surprising, I've never heard of a guy saying stuff like that within such a short time of meeting a woman In real life it looks something like this: https://youtu.be/L-CZYxUGBko I'm not quite as smooth as he is but you get the idea. Also a lot of guys would feel extremely patronised by a woman saying things like "keep trying", etc. after rejecting them (and understandably so). It depends on how it's said. I've never heard that in a patronizing way. And if a simple "no", "I'm not inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:09 PM
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No. There have always been prostitutes and there have always been tricks. Just because the names and references change doesn't mean that it's something new or that it's "taking over".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 10:39 AM
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I presume the talk of fucking, etc. wouldn't start while she's still a stranger, not when both of you are fully in your senses at any rate lol. Either right there on the spot within 5 min of me approaching her, or on the phone if I was in a rush in that moment. I want her to know my desires as soon as possible, so she could accept or reject them as soon as possible. But seriously it's ridiculous to expect young women to talk to strangers who approach them they way you suggested. Many already do.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:53 AM
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I know but I don't think I'll replicate it though lol. I usually do the standart run-around stop and then quickly transition into telling her my desires. If she is into it, I take her number. I call the next day and from then on it's just about getting deeper and in more detail about our desires. Depending on how that goes, she either comes straight to my place or we meet up to talk a little bit in person and then go to my place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 06:21 PM
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It's not about politeness. I tend to be very impolite - talking about fucking her, etc. But I do that when she has fully stopped to interact with me and is staying in place to listen to what I have to say. It's about social skills and ones ability to calibrate the situation. If women want more good interaction with guys then instead of saying "fucking assholes please leaves us alone and stop bothering us", women should say "Men - when you approach a woman give her a clear and easy ability to rej…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:56 PM
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you live in Latvia, so I am sure the culture is different over there, because it is more conservative and traditionalist. But here in the USA the third wave feminists own the culture. That's just not true. Feminism and wokeness owns the media (here too, kind of). Regular people are not part of that culture, they just follow along and do what they are told. They believe the good sounding slogans (like BLM), not the actual crazy wokeness (like the racist politics of BLM). The only reason your wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 05:44 AM
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Well, I'm not a woman so I can't really tell. But if you take personality out of the picture (big deal obviously) then this search brought up decently attractive black people: https://www.google.com/search?q=black+person&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiAv8C63PrwAhWCxSoKHQ3HDxUQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=black+person&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzIECCMQJzICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCABQgzpY5lBghVNoAHAAeACAAWGIAa8GkgECMTCYAQCgAQHAAQE
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 05:27 AM
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Streets. I like walking around the city, so it's a good thing people are walking around too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 05:19 AM
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Its not, the majority of women are liberal. Relevance? They don't want to be dominated by ugly dudes. Again, relevance? My point was about women seemegly not wanting to be approached at all in public. This is also mostly a fetish thing that girls have. Nah. Women have been wanting to be dominated for along long time. That's why so many women felt happy in traditional marriages. Because they "knew their place" and that's a comfort. Where do you live? Latvia Do you honestly believe that if you wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 07:48 PM
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Sure. Being on the spot, not knowing what to say, not understanding what's happening exactly. It's up to the skill of the approacher to make it easy for you to be receptive. Just like with anything a stranger might ask/offer in a public space. Some people are better at it and I talk to them no problems, others are bothering me and I try to end the interaction. That's how human societies work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 07:09 PM
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Go on any feminist subreddit or twitter timeline, Doesn't matter. It's the vocal minority. Also women tend to say one thing and the the opposite. Just like the Christian girls are the freakiest, a lot of vocal feminists want to be dominated in the bedroom. You should also care because of the amount of people that are in medium affect your chances of picking somebody up. Not really. Women say they don't want men to bother them (and they mean it). But when a guy approaches her and she likes the in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:50 PM
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That's such a stupid argument. Why would I care what others do? Just because less and less men have the courage to talk to women in real life doesn't mean that women want it less. Quite the opposite. As supply plummets, the demand rises. For example, I hadn't approached anyone in months (many reasons - covid and existing fwb part of it). Last Friday I did 3 approaches. Only three!!! Two rejections and the other one had a great time at my place yesterday. Obligatory - not a Chad or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 05:17 PM
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Or just don't go to dates. For me dates are when you are already in the relationship. If we are not fucking and you are a stranger to me, why would I be interested in spending so much time on stuff that has no direct correlation to getting me what I want (you, the woman)? And you know reaks dominance? This: "I bet those cops would pay big bucks to get in your pants. Big bucks! Well, I'm not going pay you shit!" Love that line lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:52 PM
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"I'm such a good guy, why don't you give ME a chance? Why are you so stupid and go with the guy you are really attracted to? Can't you see that I'm better for you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:57 AM
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By engage you mean 20% of women NEVER hooking up, and 40% of women have 1 hookup and never doing it again because most hookups suck? Casual sex is anything from 1 times to few months. As long as the pretext wasn't serious dating and it doesn't turn into monogamy. Breaking news, women will have casual sex with hot guys! Yet, most don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 09:17 PM
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That’s fine to think that way as a teenager. but as an adult, that’s really pathetic. Well yeah, but beliefs start somewhere. As an adult you might not think in quite the same way, rather in some way that grows from it. So how dorks describe ”Bad Boys”. How most everyone does. Risky activity + bold, unapologetic, don't give a shit attitude usually puts someone in that category. Tha’s not personality. That’s seduction. Seduction is activity. The way you express yourself and seduce comes from your…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 08:11 PM
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As described by this subreddit, "Badboys" are assholes and criminals. That's why I brought up the drug dealer story. From men's point of view the bully that fucked them over in highschool is an asshole. He got girls, so men think they should be assholes. They don't see that the bully was nice and flirty with the girls he got. From woman's perspective an asshole is whoever they see being an asshole. That might be the same bully who just happens to be nice to her (so she bregregently accepts him).…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 04:08 PM
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They are pick mes. They're that desperate for a man to give them attention, she'll put up with his shit personality. Being a badboy is not the same as having shit personality. Puttingt up with his shit personality is pickme not having sex with a "badboy". bad boys and womanizers. Those are arbitrary terms women use to describe men who they are attracted to but they can't get to commit. Like a womanizer can't be a womanizer if women don't want to have sex with him. His personality must be good en…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:42 PM
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Who said that? You did. By making a false equivalence between simps and women who would have sex with "bad-boys" for free (calling them pickme's is the problem). Who said otherwise? You, by implying that happy, sane, successful women wouldn't have sex for free with men they feel attracted to (bad-boys, womanizers or whatever). Men: "It's different when WE exploit women because women should love us for exploiting them!" So having sex when none of the parties give the other party money is somewhat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:52 PM
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It's funny how whenever a girl is not trading her pussy for money she is called a pick-me or a female loser... by the super "successful", happy power women. Have you considered that many people really find enjoyment in the company of the opposite sex without there being any monetary exchange? Many people like good sex for the sake of good sex. You shaming women for enjoying what they enjoy and not putting a price on their pussy is helping who exactly? Ohh, you, the women who do require men to pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:36 PM
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it's attractive for a man to be able to approach a woman with confidence. "Yikes! Women will assume you want to sleep with them which is a turn off!" That's stupid. Women are not turned off because you want to sleep with them. That wouldn't make any sense, would it?! Look at it from the other side. If she happened to want sex with you and you approached with no desire to sleep with her, she would be mad that you didn't want to fuck her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:50 PM
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The everyday grind takes enough effort for it to make sense to trade in new pussy for guaranteed pussy. Upkeeping pussy is much easier way to get sex, less effort for more yield... so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 06:57 AM
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Probably in the attitude. I haven't actually read his stuff, but I have heard him speak. And his attitude was - don't care about women, they are not worth it, which is the exact opposite of my attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 05:28 AM
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That's at the beginning when a man is really just after sex and a woman doesn't know what she wants, just responds to the situation and desires in the moment. But when a man is ready to settle down, he is trading in the benefit of variety in terms of partners (that comes with a drawback of high effort) to the benefit of low effort (that comes with the drawback of lack of variety). However, a woman from start till the end has always wanted high variety of emotions. She starts with smallest things…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 05:25 AM
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Takes a little to figure out your next "move". Otherwise not that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 05:09 AM
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Wherever I see RP stuff parroted, the sentiment is "those bitches gonna leave you for a better dude anyways, so don't bother with relationship". My things is - if you want a LTR you can provide the emotional movement she seeks. And it's easy. You just figure out what you truly desire in every way you can imagine and take her with you in your desire land. Win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 11:25 PM
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Or going deep in the sexual dynamic exploration. As long as you can find new things to do and tie them to new or existing associations of feelings, there is plenty of room for her to feel progress in the relationship and not feel the need to look elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 11:16 PM
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For women emotional fulfilment is emotional movement in the desired direction. They don't want to remain in a single state for too long. That's the point. Men want steadiness, women want new and new movement. Happiness and fulfillment is purposefully designed to be fleeting. No. There is no reason to believe someone has designed it. It's fleeting because everything happens to be fleeting. Men want to come back to the same good spot that they achieved before it went away. Women want to find new a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 12:50 PM
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Part of the deal is that she will be happy and emotionally fulfilled (as it should be for both parties). To get emotional fulfilment she is not necessarily looking for a guy with higher status (although that's an obvious way to justify her decision to move on). Any new guy can fulfill it, just depends on how much excitement he can generate in her. The long-term bf also can fulfill her need for emotional journey. But as stated, guys usually seek the opposite in a relationship - peace from the ups…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 12:28 PM
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but isn't that the argument of hypergamy? Hypergamy is real but as with everything it's highly exaggerated by basic bitches for marketing purposes. Rollo and the others use it to capitalize on it - convince frustrated men that the problem is in others (women) and the problem is not solvable so you can feel justified in being a dick and give Rollo some money. they will always come at a point where they betray their initial commitment No. She will betray that commitment if the guy stops making her…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 11:55 AM
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I mean it's implied that they want someone who they are attracted to, to commit to them. The fact that there are plenty desperate men who will offer commitment in trade for sex isn't that exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 10:48 AM
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Took me a while to see the validity in his ideas. The metaphorical truth framework and the use of abstractions that sound incredibly insightful to some but completely empty to others... are what makes his stuff objectionable to so many who would otherwise agree with him... yet enticing to those who come from a different mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 11:05 AM
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So? Are the only people available to you the ones you knew before? If you are desired by many women because you have status, why do you care that some chick rejected you but is willing to give you a chance now? Don't you just go on with your life and enjoy some fucking with the new women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 09:33 PM
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It's a very common narrative. Chick that rejected you when young starts wanting you when you are more established and she is older. But why would you care if you have other options now? Unless you don't...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 09:28 PM
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Women sexually attracted to the top 20% in looks, status and game. I think that's highly exaggerated to fit a narrative. To be desirable, you have to be great at something compared to other men. You can get great at talking to women. Wow, that's a shocking discovery. It's usually stories about the same woman "changing her mind". Like, how often men here talk to some chick they saw 10 years ago, that now that you have money they can say that statistically a lot of women do that... even when they …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 08:24 PM
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However I would take issue if I was at a normal and acceptable level and was undesirable . Being undesirable means you are below normal in some way. Most men who are "undesirable" are normal looks wise, but the way they act turn women off. Why wouldn't you expect women to start accepting you as a mate when you mature and start acting in a way that is in line with what women want in a sexual partner? Like if a woman didn't like me while I was a student working on my degree and suddenly now that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 07:05 PM
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Yeah that romance stuff isn’t real life ,You can’t just lock as with random women in a parking lot //store or subway and start a convo and think something will happen often. Tell it to the girl that's coming over to my place 3-4 times a week. Or the one before her. Ofcourse you can, that's exactly what they want!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 10:51 AM
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If anyone has approach anxiety; dress up nice, go into the city and just try it. Correct. But why would you try by yelling compliments at random women from far away instead of delivering them to them like a normal person by going up and starting a conversation? at least something productive can come out of it. There is like 0.00001% chance something productive will come out of cat calling. Besides the bar I would never cold approach in public setting though. That’s cringe. It's the opposite of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 10:21 AM
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As a guy who admits to cat calling Why would you cat call though? Giving unpersonal sexual attention to women is sure to not work. Too much effort for a practicaly guaranteed failure. Going up and actually talking to her like she is a person with agency is much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 05:36 AM
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Men want women to be sexy, feminine and womanly with the intuitions and world view of men. Weak men will bitch and whine about it, strong men will have become strong partly because they didn't wait for sympathy to deal with their hardships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 08:51 PM
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The something more they want is in your personality. They want guy that is very confident and has unlimited choices (atleast perceived), and has chosen her specifically because she is very special.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 06:35 AM
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MGTOW? All of men's needs can still be meet if they are single. If men want sex they can do one night stands,do friends with benefits, pay hookers, or get a sugarbaby(trophy wife). That's not what a man going his own way is supposed to be doing. He is going his own way and responding to women only when women initiate. An mgtow is not "chasing" women, that's why he is going his own way. That's the point. All those who claim they are mgtow but are pursuing women, aren't actually mgtow. The thing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 01:25 PM
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If you are mgtow then I'm pleasantly surprised to find a mature one lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:07 PM
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It wasn't meant about your mom, but wen in general. Parents usually want and try to give the best advice to their kids. But consider this - most parents tell their kids to take huge loans for education... loans that will enslave their kids and make them corporate cogwheels. Do you think these parents do it with I'll intent or do you think that they wish the best for their kid but just don't have the right answers to give. Same with asking mom for dating advice... the likelihood of her not having…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:00 PM
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Then you are the exact kind of a male those methods have been designed to filter out. It's similar to teasing between siblings. It can get really mean. But this behavior has a biological purpose - your weakness or strongness, might get you more or less resources from your parents and siblings as well (depending on the available resources, etc). Women give men hard time pricesely to test and see who will come out stronger than they are. If you can't handle it, they have successfully filter out a …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:29 PM
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Evo psych is a much discredited and laughed at area of study there is. Doesn't matter who laughs or doesn't. Evolution is science, psychology is not. What you get in evolutionary psychology is science applied to speculations. That leaves a lot of room for BS, but also opens a lot of doors for genuine insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:30 PM
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No, it's biology put in everyday language. Technically sexual desires are feelings themselves, so you technically you might say it's BS to distinguish them. But we use language to communicate ideas, not always super pricisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:17 PM
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The grand feelings precede the sex for many many men Of course, but not sexual desires. Many many men simply don't have sex the sex appeal to convince women to have sex sooner. The religious brainwashing is also a factor, but you don't need to have brainwashed something you supposedly don't have (immediate sexual desires).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:13 PM
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A female filters men for sexual partners, because she has a lot to risk if a bad choice is made. For a female the default strategy is to gather a lot information and let things develop and feelings grow... and then have sex. So sex is the last step in the progression. A male has to force himself to make the effort to approach, make plans, etc.. He also has to risk humiliation because he is the one making all the outright moves that can be seen, analyzed and dissected. And he has zero risk in cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 12:53 PM
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It's really not. It's just a difference of language usage. Women want feelings to be described in grand, all important, intense ways. For men it's "I don't know you, it would be weird and creepy if I felt all that for a total stranger. You were hot and that made me want to get to know you, have sex with you and then maybe experience all those grand feelings".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 12:19 PM
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Even the most romantic "when i saw you, I was struck by your beauty" translates to "you were hot and I thought I might have a chance to have sex with you".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 10:29 AM
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The woke crowd is doing little to nothing to address the legitimate grievances of men. That's not their intention. In their black and white thinking, there are only oppressors and the oppressed. People who are neither don't exist. So a solution with neither also doesn't exist. So if their assertion is that women have been opressed by men, then their solution is to switch roles - empower women by oppresing men. They don't wish happiness and equality for all. They want to shame men into serving wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 11:02 PM
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I don't give a shit if she "validates my feelings" or not. That's not what a driven man seaks in a partner. I care that my dick is satisfied, that she is fun to be around and doesn't take away from my ability to be productive, happy, etc. That's why her listening to my vulnerability is not part of my standarts for her. I don't care about it. The things I do care about I have very high standarts for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 10:16 AM
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I don't think they make 30% of male population
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 03:42 PM
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No. Saying "trust the science" is anti- scientific. Unfortunately science is done by humans and humans are susceptible to different kinds of biases on different kinds of situations. I will trust my own subjective experiences with women way more than some studies who take avarage men as example. Avarage people don't get exceptional results. Not because it's impossible but because the average person doesn't try nearly hard enough. So you can't take them as examples for what's possible for yourself…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:58 AM
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Seems like you are the one with confirmation bias and belief bias. Also, saying "if that would be real, science would have already figured it out".... e.g. the authority bias... is exactly the opposite of how science is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:37 AM
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How about you go read Amazon reviews on Modeone for example. Haven't done it myself but I'm sure you can find plenty of testimonials about how your actions can change your success with women there. It's not an experience of one exceptional person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 08:48 AM
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Not when you look at the pics they post
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 08:13 AM
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Lol. What Koolaid if I'm talking about my own experience and how I see woman's reactions change based on my actions...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 07:56 AM
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I guess it's easy to see it from the other side. While you haven't crossed the bridge it looks like an impossible task (I sure do remember the feeling of doom). However, once you have gone across it, you see how flawed your thinking was. You see how desperate women are to find a guy they can feel attraction for... and how what you thought your obstacles were, weren't your real obstacles. An average looking super confident guy can have way easier success than good looking insecure guy. What makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 07:51 AM
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That's not the point. I was an "incel" till age 20. Fat, bad social skills, etc. Changed my attitude, slimmed down, approached and failed 1000s of times (literally). Now, I can go up to a woman, let her know my exact desires like some fucking Chad or whatever and have her at my place within hours, days or weeks... while still being little fat. For the most part incels are just lazy dudes with fatalistic attitude who like to externalize the blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 07:28 AM
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Well many women don’t want hookups That's what they want you to believe (and often kind of believe themselves because the "right guy" who inspires her for a hookup is necessary). many men lie or at least aren’t up front about their intentions And that's what they get (largely because of the above point).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:39 AM
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Their issue is they don't know how to comport as the guy in bullet two. What's fascinating to me is that in your OP you also mentioned a guy letting you know his interest to have sex fairly quickly... yet all everyone is focusing is the environment part. I find most parties boring (don't like mindless activities, unless with weed). So I'm not the fun party guy. However I do make a point to have a sensual dirty talking whispering moment with a woman I'm interested in as soon as possible. Works li…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 04:31 AM
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I didn't say all. But the overall idiology there promotes being that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:50 PM
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Show it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:39 PM
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And the analysis for both is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:38 PM
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No, they want top 20% men to figure it out. No, they want whoever they are attracted to to figure it out. It's not always the best looking guys with highest social status. No, it is to be a useful tool. Your outlook is very weird. I'm trying to figure what events you must have experienced to come to those conclusions... I just don't get it. Women want to please a man. They want a man who would be deserving of her pleasing him. Do many women also use men for money and stuff? Sure. But at heart th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 12:55 PM
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Lol. You want to hold on to you being correct so much that you devolved the conversation into "well something can't come from nothing". That's not what zero sum talks about...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 12:25 PM
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There was no earth, earth formed, life began, animals evolved, human became civilized, ideas, music, art materlized... There is soooooooooooo much value that wasn't there before.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:45 AM
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That's not what zero sum means. Zero sum is about scarcity and lack of ability to introduce new value.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:24 AM
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It is because we are not suppose to figure it out. That's absurd. Women want you to figure it out if they are attracted to you, and they don't care what you do if they are not. They want a man who understands how to seduce them because it's an awesome experience. The human race relies on people being completely stupid when it comes to the mating game for it is vile and No. Humans rely on sex instincts. The more polar extreme on the binary scale of sex you are the more attractive you become to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:02 AM
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I was talking about individuals and their subjective experience. Game theory is about individuals, so is prisoners dilemma. You are talking about what happens collectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:49 AM
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Value is whatever a person is willing to trade something for. We pay money also for negative emotions - shock and disgust in horror movies for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:03 AM
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Well then you’re leaving yourself vulnerable to getting fucked over. Huh? How exactly? Life is one big prisoners dilemma. No, it's not. Life is not zero sum. There are situations where it plays out like that, but overall it's not. By creating value (like positive emotions for example) you are introducing new variables in the game that can be traded. Thus not zero sum, thus not prisoners dilemma.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 07:36 AM
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I'm viewing his opinion trough the lens of a man who is all about honesty, straightforwardness, directness, ethics and not being a little pussy who feels the need to manipulate women to get his dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 06:29 AM
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they usually sound like a sperg, socially inept or an outcast who is angry at the world that will plan the next mass shooting. Now why would that be the case? Maybe because it accurately describes them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 04:34 AM
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why you’re under the impression it’s fun if the man does all the work. Never said that. I don't consider my lust for a woman work. It just happens. Of course I want the woman to be just as receptive to my lust for her as I am about feeling it. But that happens when I am acting on my lust. The woman wants to feel desired and that's when her gears really start turning and she reciprocates.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 05:51 AM
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So you are home alone, hop into your bed and start touching yourself. You let your mind wonder to places. Situations and scenarios come up... that you just can't help but be turned on by. Your pussy gets wet just by thinking about it. You want to tell that what you are thinking at that moment is about equal effort? There is no power dynamic between the man and you? You don't want him to make you his because of his immense lust for you unless you have done it to him first?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 05:17 AM
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Huh? I didn't say that if you rape something you can't impregnate that you'll reproduce. What... Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 05:01 AM
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Never read a female fantasy about equal effort...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 04:58 AM
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Can't. It's biology. Unfortunately rape is a successful reproductive strategy... which fortunately is shunned and illegal amongst humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:43 PM
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That and the fact that male desire is arousing to women. She wants him to show desire so she can feel it too. OP just lacks the basic understanding of how women experience things. They don't want to go and take the man, they want the man to come and take them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 08:38 PM
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Exactly. I'm not going to take seriously some low resolution, low quality explanations and interpretations about biologal underpinnings in human behavior from people who have nothing to do with the field.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 08:59 PM
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Always
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 08:40 PM
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The more honest, direct and straightforward I've been the more sex I've gotten. Take the good part of TRP and discard the bad - realize that women are very sexual beings that want to feel sluty while not being sluts... then go tell them in a sexy way exactly what your desires are. Boom, sex achieved lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 06:05 AM
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Exactly. Atleast someone gets it. If you are giving and up keeping the impression that you are her BF, then it's not a casual relationship. It's just a manipulation to get sex. Slimy and weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 05:57 AM
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Wow first time i see anything ARC related being upvoted here. I guess because you are saying the easy stuff - look her in the eyes, something that most guys can get a courage for. While being verbally direct is too much for them, lol.
/r/seduction18/03/21 11:12 AM
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That's fine, still doesn't make fetishizing a bad thing. It's the specific type of fetishizing that you are talking about that's not desirable. But the type I was talking about is desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:22 PM
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Exactly. Wouldn't it be nice to be attracted to person who is attracted to you and you also fulfill some of their fetishes even if it's just your hight, boob size, skin color, dick size or whatever?!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 12:29 PM
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It taints your observations with a very high likelihood of bias towards a specific conclusion (because of the emotions attached to being khhv).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 05:57 AM
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They are interested in the attention and validation. That's the point. The way you deal with is you make it as clear as possible as fast as possible what are you interests/intentions towards her. Once you become very direct and straightforward it's not a problem because if she just wants attention and validation she will just reject you and you will have your answer. It's a problem only if you don't tell her what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 04:29 PM
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I'm not aware of those statistics but I can totally see that being the case. That's why the racism thing is way overblown by blm and interpreted incorrectly. They see oppression into places were it's not present and try to oppress what they see as oppressors - regular people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 02:24 PM
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That's a false framing. Murder by whom? Other black men... ohh...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 08:15 AM
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Those are only particular kind of males. And for weird reasons - people think there are way more black victims in U.S. then there actually are (because people like the race underdog victim narrative).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 06:14 AM
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Most guys who don't "pump and dump" only don't because they can't without going sexless for long stretches No. Pump and dumb refers to a girl thinking that a relationship is starting and the guy dumping her after having had sex with her. If the guy never promised or implied a relationship, but instead was honest about primarily wanting sex, he can't dump her (because a relationship has not been started). So guys who DON'T pump and dump don't do it because they don't feel like they need to or bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 02:38 PM
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You fail to mention the fact that we have ALL been inundated with the male POV since childhood. This is actually false. Most daycare workers and teachers are female. Most kids grow up inundated with the female POV. That's one of the contributing factors why there is so much wokeness going around these days. It's caring about others taken to such an extreme that it has turned into oprresing others in the name of caring. That's why you find dick jokes funny and complain when women talk about perio…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 05:05 PM
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You misunderstood me. Of course humor differs between groups. Both sexes gravitate towards what's interesting to them, so they tend to form sex based groups... in which humor relevant to them evolves. My point was about comedians - people who make others laugh for a living. You go to any good comedians show and you'll see everyone laughing, not just one sex. Because they are actually funny and don't just exploit group think.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 04:33 PM
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The idea that women aren't funny is widely accepted by cringe sheltered men who think frat humor is the only relevant humor. Not really. It's rare to find actually funny female comedians. They exist, but compared to men... very few. Women simply don't have a biological reason to be funny... while for men it can play a big role in their sexual strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 02:34 PM
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If you want to be in jail or at minimum have your life filled with negative emotions/drama then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 04:21 PM
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Most men will never be able to fulfill their ideal sexual strategy That's misunderstanding the biology. It's not the ideal strategy, it's just a very appealing one that has certain benefits. The man could impregnate 10 women and spread his genes without sacrificing his time to raise the kids... and just happen to have all those kids die of starvation in few years. While assuming responsibility for the kids, he can make sure his genes survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 06:43 AM
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Huh? Honesty is your words matching your thoughts/feelings/intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:08 AM
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Well, I move away from anyone who plays games with me and builds disingenuous relationships. I have better things to do than manage the emotional states of a woman I haven't even had sex with. I'm all about honesty, directness, simpleness, etc., and that's what I expect in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:01 AM
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Meh, sometimes. When this sentiment is coming from guys it's mostly either the super conservative types that want a "clean" virgin or incels that also want that fantasy. Their thinking is "if girls will not be busy having sex with those dudes who are sexually appealing right away, then maybe they will wait out and I'll get me chance". My recommendation for women is simple - have sex when you want, don't have sex when you don't. Revolutionary, I know. You can get hurt by trusting someone too quic…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 06:42 AM
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Sounds interesting, will check it out
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:18 PM
1

Unfortunately, yes, trp has the same problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:16 PM
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The bads are known. Women get frequently more raped and killed by men than men do by women. Those are still unknown men you talking about. Once you learn a man is "bad" feel free to run. But don't demonize everyone just because bad apples exist. To your second statement - aight. It‘s obvious you‘re a gross incel. Obviously. It's actually something I learned from meditation. The mind objectives self as an object and thoughts as objects, while those are actually actions. You become more in tune wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:49 PM
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It's like it is with a church (no matter the religion). People are attracted to it because they had some shitty experiences and the environment and ideology helps to deal with them. But that doesn't mean that what the church preaches is true. Helpful doesn't equal true. I care about about the truth. If you don't then I don't have much to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:43 PM
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Hospital that cures you of one thing and makes you sick with another. The analogy is apt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:37 PM
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You avoid the bad because the bad makes you feel miserable. Once the factor is not in your life anymore, why would you have an unfullfilled life? That would make sense about known bads. But FDS is deemed almost the a whole gender to be bad. Such sexism... Also that pussy comment is gross and objectifiying. The mind interprets the world as full of interacting objects. Basically every language assumes most everything as an object not a process. Humans objectify, deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:35 PM
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It's pretty fulfilling to avoid the bad. You know that's not true. We avoid the bad for survival not for fulfilment. If you think you need to avoid from men for survival (not counting strangers in dark alleys, etc) then you are delusional, as most men are happy to serve just for a chance to sniff that pussy. Personally I'm focusing on learning as much languages as i want - finding a man is byproduct not the goal 🙂 That's cool. But just as with MGTOW, why are you spending your time trashing, comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 03:14 PM
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The sub is making them miserable. It's a place where LVW congragate and stew in their negative experiences and blame everyone else about it. If you make your goal to avoid the bad, not reach the good... then don't expect to have a fullfiling life. You are going to be running all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 02:06 PM
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Not gonna lie, these statements you made were completely void of content and didn't further the conversation in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 10:16 PM
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The problem is with the usage - I don't respect him. It's usually accompanied with some form of - I distain him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 10:10 PM
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Words don't have meanings, words have usages.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 07:21 AM
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Has nothing to do with unicorns. See, you have made conclusions about women that are not based on red pill. That's some cynical black pill type shit. That's why people like to avoid red pill stuff. It's infested with bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:50 PM
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No. Those are conclusion people make from the red pill. Many being false. Of course you can find "the one". Just don't expect her to stick around and be sexually loyal if you can't satisfy her sexual urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:46 PM
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So a stranger offers you red or blue pill. You take the red pill and you finally see the truth - women are not good girl prudes but instead are horny as fuck and want to pleasure a man who can make their pussies wet (and that happens by you simply being confident and as sexually direct and straightforward as possible). That's all there really is to the red pill. At what point you should be angry when learning about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:38 PM
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There is no such thing as anger phase. They are simply dudes who are angry at women, themselves and the world. Nothing about taking the red pill involves being angry. If anything it should be joy inducing liberation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:23 PM
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No wonder you have problems, this is just stupid... the whole framing of it. It comes from lack of confidence and putting women on the pedestal. All about your inner game, nothing to do with women. Nothing to do with gamestop situation either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 07:52 AM
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Lol. I don't think you understand what it means to not have the same beliefes as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 07:20 PM
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A guy paying bigger price will expect sex even more. He just not going to say it because he is trying to pay his way to pussy not charm his way to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 08:00 PM
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Yeah, but on sensation scale it was still on the pleasurable side.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 06:37 PM
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On the contrary. The worst sex I've had still felt good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:53 PM
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I think it's a very important point. For men a standart sexual act (having penis inserted in a flesh hole that fits his size (im aware of how unsexy that sounds)) will feel good even if he really really doesn't want it. But for women, the state of mind can make even a standart sexual act very painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:30 PM
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laugh at suckers who fall for it How do you determine suckers who felt for it from men who accept that that is their best option... from couples who's relationship just didn't work out? Why do you need to laught at other people's choices and project your cinicism over them? My recommendation - have fun with them, but no commitment, no entanglements. So you accept the position that you are not able to deliver the "fun sex" and that's why you don't want to commit and be the sucker? Don't you think…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 11:16 PM
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How so? I want to have 100% of my time available to be spent however I please. I also want money so I can buy stuff I want. Sacrificing some of the things I want to get the other things I want is part of life. In the ideal case you get paid for spending time the way you want. In the ideal case of a relationship you get to have the the fun, explorative sex with the person you also like to be around non-sexually. Most people don't get the ideal they strive for. What's so hard to understand about i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 09:28 PM
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Only if you are the type of man who can't deliver it or can't deliver it to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 09:17 PM
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If you want the "fun sex" and you get with someone who doesn't want it with you, isn't that your own fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 09:16 PM
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You talking about yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 06:34 PM
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No, she has decided that there are other things that she values (such as family status, someone to share your life on consistent basis, etc) and that those things can take precedence to "having fun". She still wants fun... she would love her boyfriend/husband to be able to deliver it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 06:33 PM
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As if women are ever "done with fun". Maybe is she became a feminazi or something. But the vast majority of women don't just simply say "that's it, I had some good sex, I don't want good sex anymore". If she is not having that kind fun with you, it's because you don't inspire her to want it with you. It has nothing to do with your imagined "fun days are over".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 03:49 PM
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They were fighting for their lives! That's like watching a war movie of two dudes navigating a brutal territory of brutal enemies in secrecy... and making fun of the soldiers for keeping their sanity by forming a close bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 09:26 PM
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Huh? That never accured to me watching lotr...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 09:16 PM
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For that reason the common usage of the word has changed and nowadays feminism mostly reffers to the 3rd wave crazies. There are some grumpy incel-ish types who argue against even the original feminism but those are the execption.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 07:17 PM
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The premise of the red pill is that women are hypergamous Wrong. The basic premise of the red pill is that women are just as sexually deviant as men, women are not "good girls". Part of that is hypergamy, but that's only an aspect. That is the truth you see, stepping out of the blue pilled matrix. so "spinning plates" and justifying disgust for high N count women seem to be the main focus. The way you act on the RP information is a different question from having RP information. Unfortunately TRP…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 04:23 PM
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Who said anything about bribing women? If you offer anything besides your sexual companionship for her sexual companionship then you are trying to bribe her for it. This is simply the requirements women have set on men. No, it's not. It's just how men try to improve their chances. It's mens technique, not women's. Women telling them that if they wine and dine them enough times, they might be open to more, and this just isn't sex I'm speaking of, but of maintaining and growing the relationship. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 10:35 AM
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That's your own fault if you think you need to bribe women to have sex with them. It has nothing to do with "western women". It's simple - does your interaction with her leave her sexually desiring you, having her pussy wet, etc? If not - it's not her fault or her responsibility. And of course she is going to accept free stuff if some dude seems very eager to offer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 09:56 AM
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To be fair, I think the OPs example is more about how guys act on dates, because most guys think they need to tell that they want something serious. So if a woman wants something casual and a guy acting relationshipy, that's where the turn-off might happen. The situation where the guy told it's going to be casual and then develops feelings is no doubt much rarer... simply because most guys don't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 05:11 PM
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since we don’t really need someone to “convince” us that sex can be casual. Apparently a lot of men do need it if there are numerous women feeling like that's the choice they have to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 04:51 PM
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That's a strawman. Her basic position - she wants a "normal" person to have good sex with over some period of time, and she doesn't want a relationship right now. The normal guy started acting "relationshipy" after sex. She got the sex but also the complications and expectations of a relationship. To avoid it, she is left with going for fuckboys who can deliver sex and not bother her with the feels. The asshole fuckboy wasn't her preference, it's just that "With him it's simple, I don't have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 04:31 PM
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It always amazes me that the notion of women truly desiring sexual diversity eludes the mind of men. The framing so often is she is being "used for sex" not the one who is the "user". Blue pill is weird. Never mind the fact that no one has to be the "user". People can just come together and enjoy their sexuality without "using" others.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 01:59 PM
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Lol, I don't care what other may think of my actions. And If I thought that I still have a chance with her I would just say something like "you would like my eyes to be focused on you, don't you?".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 09:29 PM
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I think it has to do with "naturalness" - do you meet women naturally or is it your specif intention. For example, during the summer I met a girl, that I was fucking few months earlier, on the street. She asked what I was doing and I answered truthfully - just walking around to see if some girl catches my eye. Her immidate comment was that it's creepy. Mind you she was already predisposed to think I'm not a creep. Because we had a casual thing going for some while. But the fact that I was inenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 08:48 PM
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Is there a reason why a man should be indirect in his rejection? Unless he has other intentions (which makes it a different situation), I can't see any benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 06:54 PM
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Directness is best for women when it comes down to expressing their own interest, but it's definitely not best for them when it comes down to expressing their disinterest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 06:43 PM
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Correct. But do you know what's best for men in this context? It's definitely not complaining about women's behavior in the hopes they start behaving in a way that goes directly against their best interests. The best thing for men is to be very very direct, so you don't waste any time on girls who don't want to reject you outright. Directness forces out rejection and you are left with those that are actually interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 06:24 PM
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That's not how the world works. Women will do what's best for them. I simply explained to you why your reasoning doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 05:58 PM
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That's just not fair against women. Is she doesn't hedge her bets she might put herself in a situation where she has reasons to be scared. The point is to avoid having those situations, because if the situation arises she is in severe disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 09:55 AM
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women talk about the negatives of male culture. (Rape, violence, stalking, entitlement, etc). The fuck did you just say?! None of your examples are part of "male culture". Those are outlier behaviours that get shunned upon pretty much everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 07:26 PM
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That's what jaded people say
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 06:39 AM
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A friendzone reffers to a guy who wants to have sex with a particular woman but doesn't make his intentions clear so the woman wouldn't reject him out of her life completely. He is secretly planning on ways to get with her, while the woman considers him a genuine friend... he is not a genuine friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 06:39 AM
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Exactly... So you being clear that you want to have sex with her and don't want to be just friends should make it hard for her to friendzone you... don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 06:32 AM
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Who cares what they want if the woman doesn't want it with them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:07 AM
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Was your intention to be in a friendzone with her? Otherwise why would you agree to it...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:05 AM
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Yes, all men who show show sexual and romantic interest are at minimum interested to have sex. What's new? The friendzone guy just wants to fuck but is too scared to show interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:00 AM
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A movement for equity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:57 AM
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You are allowed just don't expect it to be reciprocated too often
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:56 AM
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Hey, hey the revolution is coming!!! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:26 PM
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Ofcourse... the wimpy guys who don't have the balls to be honest with their intentions and thus are hanging out in the friendzone... Those are the really good options for women haha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:04 PM
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It's more that jaded people are incompatible with regular people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:00 PM
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Plenty of studies all pointing to the same conclusion. Men occupy almost all extremes of the society. When men strive for power they strive for it more than women do. When men are violent they are more violent than when women are violent, yet also most monks are men. Both sexes can be violent, peaceful, driven or any other quality. But when you are talking about most, best, top men will be the majority. Women simply tend to be more "balanced".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:36 PM
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Actually they often do say it's about egalitarianism. But even if they didn't, that would be fine if they would stick to real issues not imaginary ones (just as with MRA). More men being in top positions is an imaginary problem because it derives from men being more driven to fight for success.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:23 PM
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Most prisoners are also men. Yet you don't see feminists pushing for equal representation there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:10 PM
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Assuming you are not trolling, I'll continue. Evolution creating itself Evolution is not an entity. It's our description of our observations. so called dead matter can just manifest it’s own program I don't know what that means and what it has to do with the off-topic we are engaging in. DNA is described as a code and yet there’s never been proof of a code without a coder It's an analogy. Just because we describe DNA as a code (because we have observed the similarities), doesn't mean it actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:15 AM
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Of course the dichotomy between natural and super natural is a false one there is a spirit and a soul and a creator but it’s all just natural That's just changing the usage of the words. People usually mean self accuring when talking about natural. For a creator to be natural it either has to be created by another creator (so which god was the first god) or create itself (which makes no sense, unless you are talking about evolution). In either cases, a Creator is not contained within in nature. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 12:04 AM
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You're not religious, but do you believe in souls? Religion = / = spirituality Spirituality = / = beliefs of supernatural Just wanted to add that. I consider myself spiritual but I don't believe supernatural things like actual spirits, souls and all the rest. I do find great value in cultivating my mind through meditation which helps your ability to focus your attention... which in turn is present in every single waking moment of your life. Makes total sense to strengthen one of the main pillars…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:55 PM
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they don't have real problems if not putting their dick in someone is an issue. "Women don't have real problems if men not caring about their feelings is an issue."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 04:21 PM
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Huh? Females having a strong preference for top males is part of nature. Your statement makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:05 AM
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It's literally true
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 04:05 PM
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They are, until they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 02:35 PM
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Not the intended receipt but will respond anyways. My reasons? It’s either A) I never bothered trying in fear of rejection Just do it. No really, it's no big deal. I've been rejected more times than not but that has led me to have had some amazing naked time with amazing women B) I’m average in terms of looks Dress in appealing way and be very direct. Directness makes you more attractive. c) I work minimum wage therefore I have no high statues or have anything worth offering to a woman The only …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 12:27 PM
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So you're saying initial lust isn't genuine Where exactly did I say that? Of course it can be. you can generate genuine lust, but it won't be initial and it can't come from "intellectual convincing" Lol, I think you just misread what I wrote. I never said it won't be initial. And the fact that you can't achieve attraction by providing argumentation in favor of that attraction is quite obvious I think. So where does this "genuine lust" come from? how do you generate it WITHOUT being attractive ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 12:45 PM
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Quite gay
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 07:04 AM
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significantly altered by behaviour But this is reality because it can. What it breeds is secondary to what's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:57 PM
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What makes you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:22 PM
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Lol, it's simple. Initial lust is not necessary to generate a genuine lust. But no amount of intellectdual convincing will do the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 01:42 PM
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No. You can't convince women to be attracted to you. But you can become attractive to them in more ways than one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 08:53 AM
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Did I say it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 08:46 AM
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Im only going off what seems to be the common mainstream intuition that an average guy could get lusted after but only in the context of a strong emotional attachment during an LTR. Which is incorrect. A non-sexual emotional attachment can help to inspire lust but it really has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 07:57 AM
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prevalance of cheating in long term relationships is good evidence that propinquity and emotional compatibility can't overpower the sexual magnetism of a handsome stranger. You said it yourself. LTR are all about emotional compatibility. I've been in multiple LTRs, and while we've had mutually satisfying sex, I've never been treated to the pure primal lust So why are mentioning LTR when trying to measure lust? That just shows that you don't understand what produces the tingles for women. It's ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 07:33 AM
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That's you projecting - because you know how you would feel by settling for a less desirable choice. But what part of gunuine lust you don't understand? Women are much more reactionary - if the tingles are inspired, they just are. If they stop being inspired, that's a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 07:24 AM
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If you're not among the best you will never be the recipient of a woman's genuine lust and primal affection. You were completely correct until this last line. If you're not among the best you will never be the recipient of a woman's genuine INITIAL lust and primal affection. Women are not going to seek you out or make the first move in any capacity. But it IS possible to seduce her into having a genuine lust and primal affection. Just because you had to work for it doesn't mean that her lust isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 06:52 AM
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What you have to understand is that empty vessels make the loudest noise. It's the guys who think it's only an exception of women who have casual flings... their angel like good girl would never... They are so insecure that a thought of another man's penis touching where their penis is touching makes them shrivel up... even if it's weeks, months, years and plenty of showering in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 08:33 AM
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My girl has a higher count than I do but doesn’t bother me According to the popular opinion in this niche subreddit you are a cuck and it doesn't matter what else you say lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 10:17 PM
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where she gets to relinquish herself completely to a luxurious ride of doting and solicitude For that to happen she would have to be the Dom. There are plenty of men wanting a female Dom. I agree that wanting to serve in that kind of way probably stems from low self-esteem (for subs of both genders). My point is, for the qualities you listed of a "BDSM" relationship to be satisfied, no actual BDSM need be employed. Correct. It's a tool for an end not the end itself. in order for validation to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 08:45 AM
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That's if you are sexually direct physically and indirect verbally. If you are direct verbally and don't touch her until she explicitly allows it, you are golden. That's called getting consent!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 06:07 AM
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Generally I agree with your sentiment, except for BDSM. All my BDSM type relationships have been very loving. It's more about clearly stating which person is going to lead most of our sexual experiences in which one will let themselves be led. I can totally see that there might be a lot of dudes who misunderstand what bdsm is all about and just try to abuse women for their self benefit. I get it. But for me bdsm is all about HER pleasure. Sure, I might call you my little good obedient bitch for …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 06:04 AM
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I didn't say "ask what she wants", you tell her what you want and then let her decide if she wants the same. Women love that!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 05:42 AM
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In the #MeToo era this is probably the worst advice I have ever heard. Lol, how is letting her know your exact desires bad? Either she consents or she rejects and nothing happens. Bad advice is to NOT verbalize your desires and try to guess her desire level by body language. That's when you can get in trouble - when you haven't discussed what you want to do in each other's company and you try doing what you want without her explicit consent. By being sexually direct you are AVOIDING being MeTooe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 10:43 PM
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That's some pretty good categorizations right there. Usually people use these words as synonyms though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:14 PM
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What is a flactuation? Do you mean fluctuation? Like the thing women are accused of suffering to excess? That’s what we “want” in men? Typo, English is not my primary language. Fluctuation is not what you seek in men, it's what you seek to experience. Women's want to be moved emotionally. No movement is worse than being moved with lots of negative baggage (criminality as the example).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 06:51 PM
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My argument was that women are not attracted to criminality but the "excitement" it brings. And that there are other ways to generate that excitement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:49 PM
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I was more fucused on the criminal aspect. I probably should have worded the title differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:43 PM
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I didn't say that good looks isn't exciting by itself. Ofcourse it is. Everyone likes good looking people. But it's not the only way to generate excitement...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:17 PM
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More like this: https://youtube.com/watch?v=L-CZYxUGBko Only I'm white, but the belly is spot on lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:13 PM
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Sure. I've been the creepiest dude and the most seductive dude a woman has known. It depends on both - you and the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:53 PM
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There are unattractive ways to say it and attractive ways. Loudly asking vs. softly whispering in her ear for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:48 PM
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However dishonesty doesn't actually improve the mans chances. That's what redpill is all about - women are not prudes who only want commitment, with the right man who acts accordingly women also just want to fuck. If you are denying that you just want to fuck, you are putting obstacles in your own path. Not only will she have LMR if you try to push too fast (thus have to be rapey and try to persuade her even if she is expressing serious doubts), it will also be harder for you to transition into …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 01:02 PM
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