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| 2 | Sex positive Red Pillers : How does sexual liberation not lead to the decline of civilization?Present. Sex positivity gives a great excuse for sluts to be sluts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/15 08:13 PM |
| 3 | Why do a lot of RPillers identify as individualists when they believe individualism destroys civilization?Shouldn't they be concerned though ? Won't it affect them ? About "society" or "the West"? I'm far more concerned with getting laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/15 08:12 PM |
| 3 | Why do a lot of RPillers identify as individualists when they believe individualism destroys civilization?So tell me how can civilization be saved according to TRP without returning to a certain system that makes people have more babies ? You don't need more babies per se, what you need is to make men have a stake in the future of their progeny. And the way the current incentives are structured, having kids is a stupid idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/15 08:11 PM |
| 2 | Why is it wrong to dislike women?Well, I'm a non pill dude, so I'm not sure they hurt my feelings. I'm not sure either. I'm not psychologizing, just observing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 07:56 PM |
| 5 | Something I don't understand...If you can't explain your thoughts without reverting to insular jargon you should rethink your debate tactics. Not going to dumb it down for you, hun. If you want a reasonable debate you need to come up to speed. (my bet is you don't want such a debate) You are acting as though RP is some kind of collegiate major or body of knowledge respected by all. It's not. Analogies are uniformly lost on the blue pill types. It's kind of funny in its own way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 07:33 PM |
| 5 | Something I don't understand...You should define your made up words if you're actually interested in debate. This is a sub for debate about RP ideas. Familiarity with basic RP terms is reasonably assumed. Ignorance is one thing, but if you're claiming ignorance here, it's obviously deliberate. As is your support. You (wrongly) assume that I'm in favor of Puerarchy. I'm not. Now that by itself is a "red pill 201" stance, so if you can be arsed to educate yourself on the term and provide a summary to prove it, then I'll deign t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 06:53 PM |
| 3 | Why is it wrong to dislike women?Not trying to prescribe values for you, but if it's that negative then you have a problem. That problem might not just be anger, it might be SMV related. Anger and (lack of) SMV go hand in hand. It's hard to be angry at women when you have them asking for your dick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 06:17 PM |
| 5 | Why do people need marriage anymore?Men need marriage like they need another hole in their heads. What with rampant no-fault divorce and disproportionate family/financial judgments, a man is taking his future into his hands to put a ring on some dame's finger. Likewise having children out of wedlock, it's a future financial sentence guaranteed with a high chance of being alienated from your kids by the courts. It's far better for men to be Chad, rather than Dad. Far less risk, far greater reward. Chad isn't over there whining on /… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 06:15 PM |
| -1 | Why is it wrong to dislike women?The problem is you have to spend a disproportionate amount of time in the negative section I don't see this. Once I got my mind right (read and practice red pill shit), got my body right (lift), got my game right (dump LTR, stop porn, stop masturbating to porn, go hit on chicks, get blown out/flaked on enough to stop GAF), and got a stable of plates (dat abundance), I'm not dealing with much negative. Don't chase, replace. When the last plate started getting stupid and threatened a breakup my re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 06:03 PM |
| 7 | Something I don't understand...Why is it a hate crime to specialize? "Laughing at internet feminists" is now a "hate crime". Gotcha. There's a reason I RES-tagged you as "Dumb chick". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 05:58 PM |
| 8 | Something I don't understand...all evidence All evidence shows that The Donald has made a healthy living off of producing what people want to consume, and what he's producing for the Presidential campaign is no exception. Your opinion of him as a person just flows down onto those millions of people who like him. Donald Trump is a decent example of Puerarchy. Your disdain is noted but it's ultimately inconsequential. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 05:56 PM |
| 0 | Why is it wrong to dislike women?I'm not sure it's lack of success that makes them losers. I'm speaking objectively, they're losers in the sexual marketplace. You're speaking subjectively, they hurt your feelings so you want to insult them with the slur "loser". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 05:52 PM |
| -1 | Why is it wrong to dislike women?Some mangina's downvoting you in this thread. The answer to your question is similar to the answer to the question, "How can you like dogs when they eat cat shit and then barf it up and then eat the barf?". The positive qualities of dogs outweigh the negative qualities of dogs. Likewise the positive qualities of women outweigh the negative qualities of women. That's why I'm busting nuts in sluts' guts, instead of MGTOW. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 05:51 PM |
| 9 | Something I don't understand...It's almost like attractive professional entertainers It's almost like men with Looks, Money, Status, and Game are adored, and manginas that cater to the whims of internet feminists and cry on TV about it are derided. Because feminists never get outraged by powerful men? How's the campaign against Snoop Dogg ("bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks") going, honey? Didja get the tearful apology for that, or are you still asking? What's that? You aren't even asking? Why is that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Discussion:My experiences about male/female friendships are very different from how TRP describes themYou need to read the linked Wikipedia article. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 05:44 PM |
| 14 | Something I don't understand...I may not appreciate all of his opinions Trump is a clown and a caricature. But that's what this culture wants. Chad leads a better life than Dad, and Trump is the Chad of electoral politics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 03:28 PM |
| 0 | Why is it wrong to dislike women?I just don't respect or particularly like what women are Neither do I. But I accept what they are and expect nothing more from them than what they are. 2Pac: I was given this world, I didn't make it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 03:25 PM |
| 13 | Something I don't understand...As a result of holding frame against women bitching at him, Trump is heading upwards in the polls as a candidate for President of the United States. As a result of crying like a little girl because of offended chicks, Taylor got... what, exactly? Rappers can talk about smacking bitches around, and they've got dime pieces lined up around the block, dripping and ready to go. Some angry incel dares to speak his piece on the internet and internet feminists tear him to bits. Weak men are held in cont… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 03:23 PM |
| 0 | Why is it wrong to dislike women?You don't have to. I'm saying that you ought to, because your experience with women will be better if you do. I get it. You've had a fair portion of your life fucked over in a very fundamental way, due to the feminized culture we live in. You were spoon fed pretty lies by everyone around you and then shit on when you questioned the results. The white knights and blue haired witches in this subreddit are going to continue to shit on you for expressing dislike for women but I'm not. There's no tim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 03:13 PM |
| 3 | Why is it wrong to dislike women?Acceptance comes with time. TRP isn't just spouting hippie bullshit when they talk about those stages of grief. Anger is one of them and that's fine. Embrace the dislike and contempt, wallow in it. Eventually, if you're sexually successful, it'll burn itself out. The people that are seething with anger and despair for years are the ones who aren't sexually successful. Getting good, or at least adequate, with women, is key to recovery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 03:00 PM |
| 3 | Can We Get More Transparency via a Log of Moderator Actions?I've had comments deleted for no reason but I think that in general the mods are fair and reasonable. This place is a bag of snakes, I don't think I'd do as well managing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 02:54 PM |
| 3 | Why is it wrong to dislike women?Too bad my hand isn't like real pussy. Nothing can replace real sex. To suggest that there is suitable replacement for actual sex for a heterosexual man with a normal sex drive is ridiculous. That's my point about "more". Why can't I have fun fucking women and at the same time not liking what they are I'm not saying that it isn't. I'm saying, you'll have more fun if you drop the dislike. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 02:50 PM |
| 18 | Something I don't understand...I've been told that we're supposed to assume that the worst shit in /r/theredpill is understandable anger, coming from men in serious pain. Frankly I'd rather you show the contempt you feel right out in the open, it makes for a better lesson for men to not show weakness to women. We're not supposed to stereotype anyone subscribing to the redpill You could fairly assume that a red pill subscriber is male, heterosexual, and has a past/current history of sexual failure to a severe degree. Stereotyp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 02:49 PM |
| 3 | Why is it wrong to dislike women?There's nothing fulfilling outside of sex with a woman. Consider that you prefer fucking a woman over giving yourself a hand job, despite the fact that you're the world expert at bringing /u/MoneyOverSluts to orgasm. The implications of that are that "sex" involves more than just physical fucking. That 'more' will be both better and easier if you come to terms with the nature of women and accept them for what they are. Not saying that you aren't successful now. For all I know you're slaying it. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 02:37 PM |
| 2 | Why is it wrong to dislike women?Regardless, looking at your post history - you're a loser. Most of the men who come to TRP could fairly be described as losers, at least as far as their sexual relationships go. What's amusing is how that lack of sexual success is used as a slur against them - it shows how much sexual market value matters, in a fundamental way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 02:29 PM |
| 5 | Why is it wrong to dislike women?Assuming that you aren't full blown MGTOW and want to have some kind of sexual relationship with a woman, disliking her will make that process less efficient. And ultimately, less fulfilling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 02:25 PM |
| 2 | Race and looking ahead: Do you think things will get better for Asian and Indian men in the USA in the coming years?She is in every asian or indian thread just bragging about how she hates men of those races and is so amazing for it. So fucking what? Like TRP will tell you, Don't chase, replace. I asked for analysis from men and that is what I want. Next time flair your post as a question for men and report chicks that chime in at the top level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 02:22 PM |
| 2 | Why is it wrong to dislike women?It's nothing personal, it's just that understanding the adversarial sexual strategies of the sexes means that women have to treated in a certain way. Yeah, so what? Just because you have to learn bitch management in order to keep women (more or less) in line doesn't mean you have to hate them for it. Why is it wrong to dislike women? Disliking women will hold you back and make you less efficient. Vindictiveness will leak through and cause you to do things that aren't in your best interest. Worst… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 02:18 PM |
| 3 | Discussion:My experiences about male/female friendships are very different from how TRP describes themBlue pill types in this subreddit overwhelmingly fail to understand the concept of orders of approximation. In real life, unlike some internet discussion, order-of-magnitude calculations are just fine. Most of the time you need your eyes, not a microscope. The reason for this is simple of course, the blue pill types aren't looking to do anything practical, they're looking to fling poop at TRP and hope something sticks. Red pill ideas are pretty useful in practice, so thus posts like this. Topica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 02:13 PM |
| -4 | T-Shirts and Oil: Are you aware of the censorship in TRP?In the one corner we have an endorsed contributor, who is well respected and who gives away free professional advice and who is peddling some t-shirts. In the other corner we have you and your sense of wounded dignity, shitposting in the main subreddit. Got damn nigga, your post violates at least 3 if not more of the mod policy rundown points regarding post removal and it's clear that you fall into the permaban policy too. Dumb AF mane. Take your ban, calm the fuck down, make a new account, and … | /r/askTRP | 29/08/15 02:15 AM |
| 7 | Can you describe a TPR belief using language/buzzwords such that bluepillers would unknowingly agree with it?How many times do you have to shoot yourself before you consider the advice of treating all guns as if they are loaded to be practical advice? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 02:08 AM |
| -10 | T-Shirts and Oil: Are you aware of the censorship in TRP?EDIT: I also PMed the mods asking about why it was removed and got no response. It's not worth a response. | /r/askTRP | 29/08/15 02:05 AM |
| 6 | Can you describe a TPR belief using language/buzzwords such that bluepillers would unknowingly agree with it?Your "theory" is literally less accurate than the statistically default position. Like dude said you don't understand that it means treat all guns as loaded. AWALT isn't some ivory tower theory, it's practical advice for living your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 01:58 AM |
| 5 | Can you describe a TPR belief using language/buzzwords such that bluepillers would unknowingly agree with it?Meanwhile when TRP says the same thing, it's time to break out the fainting couches for the maiden aunts of both genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 01:14 AM |
| 5 | Can you describe a TPR belief using language/buzzwords such that bluepillers would unknowingly agree with it?You can say whatever the fuck you want as long as you're an attractive man backed by a drum track: Oh these hoes ain't loyal (No they ain't) Whoa these hoes ain't loyal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/15 12:43 AM |
| 1 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?well I would not sleep with any of those people. Absent their status and game, all of those men would be incels. The first two guys have managed to get married, but as far as I can tell, not to supermodels Those women are certainly in the top 40% of women out there. HWP and feminine. On a purely physical basis, all of those examples are punching incredibly far above their weight. The reason is that physical looks not the dominant factor in female attraction. that doesn't mean they've had sex wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Is Chad really an asshole? (male rationalisation)So is this 'women love assholes' line a rationalisation of the fact the girl you like rejected you 'she rejected me for him, but that's ok, he is just an asshole' No. Asshole behavior is correlated with other behavior that women find attractive such as confidence and sexual forwardness. Asshole behavior works far better than pedestalization and beta orbiting, for instance: One day you pluck up the courage LOL, fail. On the other hand, me taking first dates on a walk as an excuse to physically es… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?I'm saying is that there is still a physical threshhold that needs to be met. It's highly flexible, because Status and Game can easily compensate and make fuggo men attractive. For examples: Sean Stephenson has God-tier game, a decent amount of status, probably OK money. Looks? Crippled midget. Nikolai Valuev has great status, probably good money, who knows how much game. Looks? Neanderthal. How much poon did these skinny-ass druggies run through? No male models there unless you're modeling the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 09:23 PM |
| 2 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?Your bullshit attempt at making out the bluepillers to be the bigots I'm specifically calling you out as a proud bigot, and as evidence I'm point to your smug and bigoted comment. I can't speak for the rest of your ilk, but they're free to chime in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?To respond to your edit upstream Game helps obviously Game doesn't "help", game is a requirement. A man with shit game might as well be morbidly obese and confined to a wheelchair. Women don't see this because they only accept men with adequate game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 09:06 PM |
| 2 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?The one thing that there's no "perhaps" about is that you're a proud bigot - like many people who are up on their high horses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 09:01 PM |
| 2 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?I never derided trans people I can see your smear of transgendered women from here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:57 PM |
| 2 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?I have never once slept with someone I didn't find physically attractive. I believe you. What I'm saying though is that "finding physically attractive" isn't just Looks, it's also Money, Status, and most importantly Game. This is the whole point of "Lift" being like the first rule of trp. No, it's only part of that point. No guy is going to turn me on with any amount of money You ignore both Status and more importantly, Game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:56 PM |
| 5 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?so how does putting on a cocky dickhead persona help terpers? Because female sexual arousal is not solely visual. It isn't even mostly visual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:51 PM |
| 4 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?Instead of listening to random stories and theories on the internet, the only true test of validity is the experimental approach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:50 PM |
| 2 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?I'll say what I want. That's an incredibly courageous position for you to take. Amazing that you're standing firm against those horrible trans people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:49 PM |
| 0 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?but SMV for a man also has a lot to do with looks. Less than you'd think. Looks, Money, Status, Game are the foundations of male attractiveness. Looks is the least important which is why there's basically no market for male plastic surgery. I would never date/sleep with him unless I found him physically attractive. Women's arousal is responsive. A man with Money, Status, and/or Game can compensate for looks, as long as his looks don't shut the door on him. Women will report that a man is hot if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:48 PM |
| 2 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?I'm not saying it should matter to you, just pointing out that this isn't a uniquely female thing. You might as well point out how much or how little you like cheese. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:41 PM |
| 2 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?'With that broad back becomes imperative to comment. Hope ya chick dont come with no dick' Cool, so now blue pill types are insulting women by implying that they're transgender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:40 PM |
| 3 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?It's just sad looking at girls and lining them up as if their value as people is based soley on a single quantity I'm talking about a single quality: Sexual Market Value. I'm not talking about their "value as people", whatever the fuck that means. you think you know 3 seconds after meeting them. I can asses their SMV within 3 seconds. Deciding whether to actually plate them or not takes a little while longer. Gotta make sure they're sexually willing and not too crazy. Someone on trp is banging t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:36 PM |
| 2 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?Okay, isn't the same true for men though? I'm not trying to fuck dudes, let alone trying to get one to commit to me, so I don't care. But note: you wouldn't really want your husband if you were 100% certain that you were the absolute best that he could ever hope to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:28 PM |
| 3 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?Most people are probably 5s and 6s imo. Talking broad scale most people are a 5. Specifics depends on demographics though. Younger women skew higher, older women skew lower, because female SMV is heavily based on looks. Male doctors skew higher because male SMV is heavily based on status and money. I gauge my attractiveness by who has agreed to commit to me. Commitment is hard for women to get just like sex is hard for men to get. The quality of a man who'll commit to a woman is her indication o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:22 PM |
| 3 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?I dislike rating women as numbers I don't. Sexual Market Value is the currency of TRP and there's no better estimate of your SMV as a man than the quality of women you can fuck. Even the terps who fuck multiple girls regularly, go for women who are not the best in terms of looks. Don't assume that my experiences are the same as everyone else's. Just because I'm plating 4s doesn't mean that someone else isn't plating 6s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:16 PM |
| 5 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?Let's repeat, with emphasis: Every woman has a chance of getting with someone better than she's with right now. The likelihood of that chance coming to fruition is influenced by, but not solely dependent on, the delta between the current branch she's on and the one she wants to swing onto. The fact that you immediately jump to ridiculous hyperbole is instructive though. Thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:12 PM |
| 2 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?his current attitude about himself is that he's in the top 10% of attractive men and could get anyone. I'd rate myself a solid 6 based on the women that I can pull with ease. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:08 PM |
| 2 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?I believe looks more than brains. The last time that blue pill subreddit posted pictures of themselves the results were interesting. Males were a split between stick thin androgynes and lardy neckbeards, with maybe one decent dude. As expected. Women were heavily skewed towards neon haired, above average women, again as expected, since fatass women aren't going to be posting too many pictures. There was a strong minority of fat chicks. Plus, hot women are more likely to be out of touch with the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:07 PM |
| 2 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?Every woman has a chance of getting with someone better than she's with right now. That's the point of hypergamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:02 PM |
| 5 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?I'm a formerly below average man who's pulled himself into above average territory and gone from incel/thirsty to learning how to manage a pool of bitches. I'm confident that my experiences and opinions bring value to men who're beta/omega losers. This makes no sense at all. Your analysis is highly suspect and should be heavily discounted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 08:00 PM |
| 4 | Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'?Why do terpers take such an issue with 'supposed female hypergamy'? I don't, any more than I take an issue with solipsism or lack of female agency or AF/BB. I deal with these things when I have to and exploit them when I can. Being Alpha Fucks is far preferable to being Beta Bucks, for instance. What's not to love about hot, wild, free sex? I mean you're all, handsome, muscular men with high paid jobs who have absolutely no trouble with women I'm spinning plates with no worries. They're all 4s a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 07:58 PM |
| 1 | I am the guy in the NY Post article about the wife addicted to Ashley MadisonHow ignorant is that? About as ignorant as analogizing adultery with murder. What's next? Charges of blasphemy? Misogyny? The white knighting is strong in this thread - led by OP but supported by y'all. Yeah, sucks that OP's special snowflake was out there on AM slinging her pussy at thirsty dudes. AshleyMadison's main sin, besides being mostly a scam, was being blatant about being an affair site. Kind of like how TRP is blatant about what's said here, instead of cloaking it in powertalk. The ri… | /r/TheRedPill | 28/08/15 07:49 PM |
| 2 | Anyone else have friends in real life that used RP/PUA tactics before? How did it go?but that's not the story. My point is that if the genders were reversed the reaction would be different. As you affirm. The emotional resilience of the average 22 year old playing the game, and the average 17 year old are not the same. How do you suppose that resilience gets developed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 06:55 PM |
| 6 | Anyone else have friends in real life that used RP/PUA tactics before? How did it go?'Nice guys finish last' Corollary: Want to not finish last? Then don't be a nice guy. Like Chad Junior in the OP - he was nice, and was finishing last. Then was not nice, finished in her ass. It's not easy to keep people from making logical leaps, unless you purposefully lie to them. it's just as easily going to have her in counselling for most of her college years. If the story was the faithful, sexless, orbiting male, dutifully holding hands and waiting for magic to happen, nobody would be off… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 06:44 PM |
| 2 | Anyone else have friends in real life that used RP/PUA tactics before? How did it go?Honest question: How are you going to teach about SMV without showing what relative SMV can do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 06:20 PM |
| 11 | Anyone else have friends in real life that used RP/PUA tactics before? How did it go?I told him it's wrong to break up with someone over not having sex. She doesn't owe him sex, and he doesn't owe her a relationship. He told me that when he said he was breaking up with her she was willing to do anything in order to prevent that from happening. Wow, she cared so much about his sexual needs her relationship status that she decided she'd fuck him as a last ditch attempt to keep him around. Sounds like she really cared for him, and shit. I didn't realize it at the time but my friend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 06:15 PM |
| 12 | TRP's hatred of mentally ill women - er why?pretty much all the posts from redpillers here, seem to assume in knowing a women suffers from a mental illness, you know everything about her and that she will be at best a burden and at worst a total liability, I take issue with this. Women are fungible. They're more or less interchangeable, and most aren't crazy. So why waste my time fucking around with a crazy chick to see if (maybe) she's not quite crazy enough to be a danger? Better to drop her nutty ass and move along and bang someone not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 06:04 PM |
| 5 | TRP's hatred of mentally ill women - er why?Not every woman with a mental illness is a useless burden. Right, some are dangerous, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 05:36 PM |
| 53 | TRP's hatred of mentally ill women - er why?"Disqualifying women from being potential partners" is now "hatred". That kind of rhetoric is why nobody takes the misogyny charges seriously anymore. "Hatred" is now "hurts my feelings". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 05:27 PM |
| 12 | TRP's hatred of mentally ill women - er why?If you think the law it set up to favour women As a male victim of domestic violence I can assure you that the law and more importantly the culture - AKA the enforcement and application of those laws - are set up to favor women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 05:25 PM |
| 16 | TRP's hatred of mentally ill women - er why?Being mentally ill does not make her more likely to cheat or fuck you over, I just don't see what normal person I don't see how a "normal person" fails to understand that a manic depressive woman, for example, is in fact more likely to fuck you over. Three words: Poor impulse control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 05:24 PM |
| 1 | In what ways do women shame other women besides slut-shaming?It's called fetishizing. Men in general prefer younger, more physically attractive women. It's no "fetish". If you're 40 and happen to fall for a 22 year old who also fell for you, that's a little different. That's the story for public consumption, sure. In private - like on an anonymous internet forum? Prime Pussy Over Rancid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 12:36 AM |
| 1 | Bluepill: Why can you not consider that relationships might be adversarial, by the nature of erotic desire?You could draw that parallel if you wanted. The real counterpart to AF/BB for men is Slutty Flings/Virgin Rings - fuck loose women until your peak SMV, and then marry a young woman with a low partner count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/15 12:33 AM |
| 7 | Does giving women freedoms destroys civilization ?I should also say that I oppose certain special privileges that exist for women "Certain" but not "all". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/15 09:17 PM |
| 5 | Question about shit tests and "Lets just be friends"What do you guys think about her last text? She wants you around as an orbiter. Delete her contact and move on. | /r/askTRP | 22/08/15 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Bluepill: Why can you not consider that relationships might be adversarial, by the nature of erotic desire?Being a higher SMV man with a lower SMV woman means that you don't have to worry (as much) about these things, because the dread game is automatic. Likewise with nonexclusivity - automatic dread. you have to share power Someone will have the upper hand, and that someone is the one who's least invested. As a man you want that to be you, not her. you can't have every single thing going according to your will Nothing that I've said or even implied suggests that. Otherwise it's more like slavery, no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/15 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Bluepill: Why can you not consider that relationships might be adversarial, by the nature of erotic desire?Having the balance of power in your favor is better than the opposite. And having power doesn't mean flaunting power - in fact flaunting power shows that you don't have it. Flaunting power comes dangerously close to negotiating desire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/15 08:08 PM |
| 10 | redpillers: Doesn't the redpill help women improve on their shit testing skills?redpill makes women more aware I'll take the risk. In reality there's an abundance of women out there so if you become too much of a pain in the ass, ala so we shit test and manipulate more, and in different ways Then I'll next you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/15 07:15 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Why do we need Feminism?One thing I read a long time ago in one of those self help books was a Venn diagram showing the areas that you have concern for, versus the areas you have influence over. Point being that your area of concern is much larger than your area of influence. Am I concerned with the decline of the West and its attended problems, such as sluts slutting it up? Sure. Can I do anything to prevent it? Nope. This culture is headed down a bad road, with me or without me. I could choose to struggle in vain aga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 11:09 PM |
| 2 | Good news, Redpill!There are men and women in happy LTR that aren't a dead bedroom, despite him being more bluepill/beta/whatever And plenty of drunk idiots handle firearms without putting a hole in themselves. What of it? Why live your entire life in vague fear I'm sitting 6 feet from multiple loaded firearms. Zero fear. I've got a chick coming over tonight to get fucked. Zero fear. I'm not going to be dicking around with my guns without checking the chambers, nor am I going to be putting a ring on chick's finger… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 10:54 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Why do we need Feminism?I'm pretty staunchly against Feminism I'll attempt to Challenge Your View. I need feminism because I want women to have a socially acceptable excuse for being sluts. Feminism, smashing the patriarchy, finding themselves, live/laugh/love, sowing their wild oats, whatever, provides a ready made pantheon of excuses/justifications. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 10:50 PM |
| 6 | Good news, Redpill!The point is that women aren't designed only to destroy. Sometimes they can be used for fun things like cooking breakfast or taking dick up their ass. You just have to be careful with them is all, because they have the potential to hurt you badly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 10:44 PM |
| 3 | Bluepill: Why can you not consider that relationships might be adversarial, by the nature of erotic desire?But then you are settling for low SMV person for comfort. Lower, not low. You'd erase it for sake of comfort. You assume wrongly that I am saying that relationship stability is a value that trumps all others. I'm saying that relationship stability/female loyalty is a value that can be attained more easily by having the proper SMV ratio between the two partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 10:41 PM |
| 12 | Good news, Redpill!The idea is that guns are designed only to destroy Incorrect. you should always be careful around them, or tragedy can strike. Correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 10:34 PM |
| 5 | Good news, Redpill!there is actually a medical test to see if a girl is a slut More precisely there's a medical test to see if a girl has slut-like potentials. Logistically that testing is hard to pull off though. Now on the other hand, if there were visible characteristics that were correlated with the slut gene, that would be useful. As it is we're still stuck with the old methods of slut testing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 10:32 PM |
| 8 | Good news, Redpill!By the way, most gun owners know how to check whether or not they put bullets into the gun. Your ignorance is showing badly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 10:21 PM |
| 3 | Good news, Redpill!You guys have yet to prove all women cheat, or have a serious desire to. I've yet to prove that all guns are always loaded, nor do I have a serious desire to. What I have proven - to my satisfaction and the satisfaction of other gun owners anyway - is that the consequences of handling firearms in a cavalier manner are serious enough that I treat all guns as if they were loaded. This mindset boils down to "all guns are always loaded". That pithy phrase puts some anti-gun peoples' collective teeth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 10:16 PM |
| 5 | Good news, Redpill!That which is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. Thus the responses to your OP, in this thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 10:04 PM |
| 14 | Good news, Redpill!I like how you guys mirror radical feminists Don't care what my holding up an analogy to you reflects back at you. The point that you ignore is that TRP is for the benefit of men, not the benefit of women. Hell, TRP doesn't even try that hard to "convince" men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 10:02 PM |
| 0 | Bluepill: Why can you not consider that relationships might be adversarial, by the nature of erotic desire?Loads of terpers give the 6's and 7's have more orbiters and bigger egos than 9's. Since nuance is lost on you, in her estimation, her SMV needs to be lower than the man's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 09:57 PM |
| 17 | Good news, Redpill!You guys do a shitty job of convincing most women that they're loaded guns. Gun safety isn't for the benefit of the guns, it's for the benefit of the people handling the guns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 09:47 PM |
| 2 | Bluepill: Why can you not consider that relationships might be adversarial, by the nature of erotic desire?If it's like that, it's not worth it. Which is one of the reasons why RP theory suggests a relationship where the woman is lower in SMV than the man. It makes all that 'struggle' shit automatic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 09:46 PM |
| 12 | Good news, Redpill!Do gun owners actually think all guns are loaded? Analogy time. According to a population of people who Don't like gun owners See no need for anyone to have guns Have themselves never been around guns Get their kicks from making fun of gun owners The answer might be "Yes, and that proves how crazy gun owners are". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 09:36 PM |
| 3 | Is it possible to be a swinger/have open relationships as a man without just becoming a "cuck"?You assume that a result (more risk hence more security) has only one cause. That risk can take the form of increased risk (red pill ideas) or a less valuable position (fat polyamorous chicks). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 09:20 PM |
| 7 | Good news, Redpill!Headine is "Thrill-Seeking Gene Can Lead to More Sex Partners" not "This One Gene Is The Difference Between A Good Girl And A Skank, Skank-Positive Women To Be Marked With Forehead Tattoos." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 09:14 PM |
| 2 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?Plenty of feminists are both mate. Not saying that it's mutually exclusive. One of my former plates was a self-proclaimed feminist, but she did her hair and makeup well. Well, against the fash? Not really sure what that is, sounds like chav talk from England. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 05:26 AM |
| 6 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?not being a feminist gets you laughed outa town. I prefer women that are feminine, not feminist. And something like negging would get you kicked in the Dick. You're big on violence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 05:16 AM |
| 6 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?But then again, amongst the circles I walk in, red pill tactics would get you laughed at at best, assaulted at worst. Anarchists. I'll make sure not to hit on purple haired androgynes with ear gauges and utilikilts, then. We don't like conservative reactionary fucks, or misogynists. As if I talk about red pill shit in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 05:08 AM |
| 3 | Can a girl doing favors/nice things for a guy make up for her lack of physical attractiveness?Granted, if a girl gave me that, I'd probably play it off in the moment Exactly my reaction when it happened to me. I'm not saying that dog-like neediness is good, I'm saying that it doesn't invoke revulsion in men like it invokes in women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 03:56 AM |
| 3 | Can a girl doing favors/nice things for a guy make up for her lack of physical attractiveness?The point being that eager dog-like neediness doesn't inspire the same reaction in men as in women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 02:27 AM |
| 0 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?you wouldn't need to have it spelled out how to flirt with someone. So what? And since, either way, you didn't deny that he was reading bullshit into her post Now that you ask, I think his characterization of Miss Fleshlight was fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 01:35 AM |
| 0 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?You're missing the overall pattern. The overall pattern is that you're throwing shit and hope that it sticks. I've got that pattern down well. And I already gave the redpill a chance. OK. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 01:06 AM |
| 4 | What about kids?Let's just say for some reason, every man in the world suddenly goes full RP. Time to lay low for a few months, then break out that beta provider game. Alright ladies, who wants a sorbet? My treat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 12:56 AM |
| 1 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?You guys cling to your fantasy that every male who isn't an "alpha" is substandard, when that same page includes a woman who is looking for a man with some emotional intelligence and shared ideals. I'm speaking of the reference you gave, which was TRP's reaction to Miss Fleshlight. Your reference to it as AF/BB made it clear that you have no understanding of what AF/BB actually means. I called you on it, now you're trying to kick some sand over the whole mess. The problem with taking the redpill… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 12:55 AM |
| 9 | What about kids?RedPill is all around the world Red pill is about 0% of the population and will be for the forseeable future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 12:39 AM |
| 2 | Positive vs Toxic RPWhat happened? Long story short is that Mystery tried to fix the problems deep inside of himself by learning pickup. I've read at least a thousand times here that girls like mean guys, which is disingenuous. No, it's a simplification. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 12:18 AM |
| 2 | Positive vs Toxic RPI meant 'self-perfection' Some red pillers might want to reach the apex of being Chad Thundercock, but most don't. Anyone who's read about the PUA Mystery, for instance, sees the dangers there. In other words you won't find self-actualization inside a pussy. I'm actually unconvinced that you can be too nice. I think TRP (and most people) can't distinguish between kindness and sycophantic behaviour. Correct. why do I keep seeing people here saying that meanness is attractive? Assholishness is les… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 12:06 AM |
| 4 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?AF/BB refers to a woman's dualistic, compromise, mating strategy. "Women only count sex if it's with alphas" isn't AF/BB. There's no discussion of provisioning from a substandard male, AKA beta bucks, there. Y'all need to learn more about red pill concepts than whatever hits the front page of /r/TheBluePill. Another reason that no red pill man here takes this conversation seriously is that it's constantly Remedial Red Pill in here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/15 12:01 AM |
| 2 | Positive vs Toxic RPsuccess in the pursuit of perfection. Not looking for perfection, least of all in women. That's how you catch oneitis. Women are interchangeable and ultimately, not as important as other values. I find it interesting that being mean is never mentioned as a negative thing by RPers. It's not much of a negative thing. It's a calibration error, like I alluded to before. Being attractive is far more important. And if you're going to screw up it's more attractive to be too mean as opposed to too nice.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 11:53 PM |
| 3 | Can a girl doing favors/nice things for a guy make up for her lack of physical attractiveness?At worst, she'd repulse him with her eager dog-like neediness. What would be your reaction to your partner asking "why are you with me?" during sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 11:44 PM |
| 2 | Positive vs Toxic RPActing like an asshole is a pithy summary of attractive behaviors, one that lame guys have a mental model of and can visualize and act on. Once lame guys adopt those behaviors they can learn to calibrate themselves. why don't they teach to stop being mean? Because that's a secondary concern, part of the calibration of asshole behavior. Besides it's better to come across as too much of an asshole as opposed to too nice. It's far easier to recover from "jerk boy" than from "beta orbiter". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 11:33 PM |
| 2 | Positive vs Toxic RPLame dudes don't have a good mental model of what a "plain confident guy" is or does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 11:11 PM |
| 2 | Positive vs Toxic RPBecause "nice" to an incel loser means "supplicating". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 11:03 PM |
| 3 | Can a girl doing favors/nice things for a guy make up for her lack of physical attractiveness?My physical standards are quite a bit lower, to the point where I find most non-obese, non-elderly women fuckable. 4s and up. A 10 second look is enough to tell me yes or no, from then on she can disqualify herself with personality but there's no reason to see if she can win me over. Too many other good enough women out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 11:00 PM |
| 3 | Positive vs Toxic RPJust being a confident guy is actually not easy to do, if you're a lame beta male. To get a sense, go read around that /r/ForeverAlone subreddit. That's the internal narrative of your typical incel loser. "Just be a confident guy" sounds like "Hey poor people, stop being fucking poor" to someone like that, and is about as helpful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 10:57 PM |
| 4 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?The commentary on Miss Fleshlight: Translation: Nobody has sex with me! Well, okay, guys I don't like are lining up around the block to give me physical validation, I suppose. But that's not what sex is! Sex is only when it's an attractive alpha male pounding you, not some ugly skinny nerd." That translates to AF/BB only in your fevered imagination. My guess is that the rest of your analysis is equally accurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 10:53 PM |
| 2 | Positive vs Toxic RPeasier than what? Jacking off to internet porn, lamenting my life. Turns out that's really easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 10:44 PM |
| 4 | Can a girl doing favors/nice things for a guy make up for her lack of physical attractiveness?So the general fuckability of most non-obese, non-elderly women is what you meant by "Physical attractiveness isn't really that much of a thing"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 10:40 PM |
| 2 | Positive vs Toxic RPRed pill tactics are more effective than anything else I've tried, but they're certainly not easier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 10:35 PM |
| 9 | Can a girl doing favors/nice things for a guy make up for her lack of physical attractiveness?Most times, confidence, sensuality, personality and intellect goes a long way, even if a woman is not that pretty. Physical attractiveness needs to be there as a baseline. Personality is a minor positive factor. Personality can be a major negative factor though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 10:32 PM |
| 11 | Can a girl doing favors/nice things for a guy make up for her lack of physical attractiveness?Physical attractiveness isn't really that much of a thing, contrary to popular belief, specially when you know it can be faked by surgeries and cosmetics. Physical attractiveness is very much "a thing". Women use cosmetics and get plastic surgery because they look better with those things than without. Just go over to /r/MakeupAddiction and see the befores and afters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 09:39 PM |
| 3 | Positive vs Toxic RPNot really. Red pill ideas are related to PUA though. In a simplified view, pickup was about what worked, red pill is about what works and why it works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 09:34 PM |
| 10 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?I watched the redpill subreddit claim that not wanting to be used like a fleshlight was an endorsement of ALPHA FUX/BETA BUX, LULZ. That reads like something from that blue pill 'satire' subreddit. If you can't figure out why that's earned my pity, and most people laughing at your cult The opinion of some (presumed) female on the internet isn't anything I'm going to lose sleep over. The opinions of the real life females that I pursue matter more, and red pill tactics do well for me there. I don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 08:48 PM |
| 10 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?does this mean you shouldn't be treated as an equal participant either? You can choose not to accept me as a subject matter expert on red pill men if you'd like. Perhaps if you have experience, in real life, with red pill men, that contradicts my assertions, you'd have a reason for doing so. That's the primary difference between the men and women on here - real world experience. I've got real world experience taking professional, educated, feminist women to bed. When I say that red pill tactics … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 08:43 PM |
| 2 | Why are the red pill's subs often on the front page if we're so hated?Because people love outrage porn. | /r/askTRP | 16/08/15 07:48 PM |
| 4 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?its interesting that its the first thing you thought of. Basic bitch cheerleaders are athletic, hot, and fun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 07:43 PM |
| 5 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?ya but negging also works on men. This thread though is not about men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 07:10 PM |
| 16 | What type of women do Redpill tactics work on?So, basically you either don't take this conversation very seriously Real talk: No red pill man here takes this conversation seriously, because of the incessant hamstering of Nuh uh, that thing that I like isn't a red pill tactic, only those things I don't like are red pill tactics! from the females here. If you-all would listen to the subject matter experts, you'd have a better chance of being treated as equal participants in the discussion. The way you're coming across though is like me steppi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 07:09 PM |
| 0 | Positive vs Toxic RPRight, because the Nazi's didn't similarly preach about the importance of athleticism or attractiveness, or anything. National Socialism helps losers get laid? Maybe among a certain demographic, but I confess I'm not familiar with that. I've never been "sexually unsuccessful" OK, so your experiences aren't in fact a "refutation". See how easy that was? This is a thread with 115 comments in it. And directly in this one comment chain, of all those comments, are the references you're missing. You'r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 06:50 PM |
| 4 | Positive vs Toxic RPBut being confident and forward isn't exclusive to assholes so why act like an asshole when you could just be confident without all of that? Because "acting like an asshole" is an incredibly pithy way of communicating the many details and nuances of "being confident and forward". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 06:39 PM |
| 3 | how many women would you estimate are or can be attracted to shy and socially awkward guys?Getting buzzed is better advice than looking for awkward chicks. Getting buzzed and getting some game, even better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 02:00 AM |
| 0 | Positive vs Toxic RPis somehow "retreating" from my stance that they are a hate group? "In the traditional sense" - that is TRP at worst offers something more than those hate groups you'd compare it to. That was my point. Oh, cool. And my experiences directly refute yours. Do they? So you were a sexually unsuccessful man who made a genuine effort to implement red pill ideas and practices, failed, and then attempted one of those alternatives, and succeeded? Or are your experiences orthogonal to mine and so thus not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 01:59 AM |
| 0 | Positive vs Toxic RPDo tell me, when exactly did I "retreat" from this stance? Your third paragraph. Otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned it. You can pretend that this is the case, but you have absolutely zero actual evidence that it is. Let that sink in. I've got airtight evidence: my own experiences. Which alternatives? I'm not going to read upthread for you. None of the things that you mention attempt to do what TRP does. You only mention them because you aren't paying attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Positive vs Toxic RPthe idea of BB is "manipulative women finding chumps and leveraging their own sexuality to get cash out of them." No. Let me give you a couple of clues. AF/BB (Alpha fucks/Beta bucks) is a female mating strategy. Specifically it is a compromise mating strategy. "Alpha Fucks/Alpha Bucks" would be the preferred mating strategy but it is very difficult to pull off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 01:30 AM |
| 1 | Positive vs Toxic RPThere are women who use sex to manipulate men. That is not what AF/BB means. Care to try again? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 01:21 AM |
| 0 | Positive vs Toxic RPOK, so you've retreated from your stance that TRP is a "hate group" in the traditional sense and fallen back to pointing and laughing at the beta losers who need to be told such things. That's fine, "painfully clueless adults" is a fair description of the kind of men who need red pill ideas. What TRP does is to teach these painfully clueless adults how to leverage themselves into that top 20%. And I might add they do this successfully, which is more than can be said for those alternative resourc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Positive vs Toxic RPYou aren't 'bitter', right? So you should have no problem taking up the challenge I posed to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Positive vs Toxic RPthese models (hypergamy, AF/BB) are good for understanding how manipulative women work. Fixed that for you. And in doing so, demonstrated exactly why what I proposed you do is impossible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 12:55 AM |
| 1 | TRP has made me paranoidLike Heartiste said, I'll be poolside. | /r/askTRP | 16/08/15 12:54 AM |
| 1 | Positive vs Toxic RPInteresting then that TRP tells people that they in fact have little to offer, that that is the reason for their lack of sexual success, and tells them to change that, as opposed to just saying that men are better than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 12:49 AM |
| 6 | Positive vs Toxic RPIt's not a false dichotomy. To pick one thing from those three, AF/BB is an incredibly controversial concept. But it's a very valuable concept. If you think you can explain AF/BB in a way that is both palatable and doesn't dilute the message, then go ahead. Same with the other concepts. If you could do that then you could shut down TRP within 6 months. Take their concepts and spin them so that they don't lose value yet are palatable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 11:27 PM |
| 13 | Positive vs Toxic RPWhy is your advice excellent? My advice is actionable, yours is not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 11:23 PM |
| 6 | Positive vs Toxic RPThe parts of TRP that are the most valuable are the things that are the most controversial/toxic/hurt my feelings. Things such as AF/BB, dread game, hypergamy. So you face a choice of delivering low value messages to a lot of people, or delivering valuable messages to a few people. TRP has chosen the latter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 11:20 PM |
| 1 | TRP has made me paranoidFeminism is a direct attack on masculinity. They perverted our women to attack us in much the same way we distributed small pox infected blankets to the Indians in an attempt to cull them. Sure. Now what? My response is to watch this fucker burn, not to join a bucket brigade. My lack of children and lack of desire for children have a lot to do with that attitude. | /r/askTRP | 15/08/15 11:13 PM |
| 7 | Positive vs Toxic RPhence the massive image problem Who cares about TRP's image? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 11:11 PM |
| 8 | Positive vs Toxic RPHere, I'll give you some quotes "be an asshole to girls and you'll get laid lol" Women are attracted to confidence and forwardness. Assholes have these in spades. If you act how you envision an asshole would then you'll be light years ahead of your current, supplicating, beta self. So, act like an asshole and you'll get laid. "just dump that bitch lol" Women are more or less interchangeable. Hold your frame and hold your standards, have an attitude of abundance and have a reality of abundance, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 11:11 PM |
| 0 | Positive vs Toxic RPPo-tay-to, po-tah-to. Neither of those subs is doing what TRP does in terms of helping the number of men better themselves in the SMP. The reasons for that are that they aren't as effective as TRP is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 11:07 PM |
| 1 | TRP has made me paranoidBut I just want a happy family. I wanna coach my future sons football teams, and take them hunting, and take my future daughters camping and hiking, and I want to be in there life every day, not every other weekend. That's my bottom line. I'm sorry. I've given up those desires, quite a long time ago, quite a while before I took the red pill. So, our cultural rot regarding monogamy and loyalty and love aren't as big of a deal to me as they are to you. | /r/askTRP | 15/08/15 10:50 PM |
| 5 | Positive vs Toxic RPI don't see TRP threatening to leave either That's because ultimatums are stupid and detrimental. They're a ham handed attempt to negotiate desire. Dread game can and does increase desire. A petulant threat to leave is not dread game, it's the opposite of game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 10:47 PM |
| -1 | Positive vs Toxic RPI think the positive & negative parts of redpill are due for a split. /r/PunchingMorpheus has already done that. There's your 'positive'. Hmmm, looks kind of dead - maybe that "negativity" is actually valuable. but if the message comes from people who support the toxic side, they might choose to ignore valuable advice. Not my problem or anyone else's problem. TRP isn't looking to recruit true believers. Look, I'd like to help lame men become less lame. But you can't force red pill ideas on peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 10:43 PM |
| 10 | When a girl kiss rejects you.pretend it never happened then decide later if you want to try again This one. Say sorry, I misread the signals, I thought you were flirting? Oh dear god no. Never say this. You want to engage her emotions not her intellect. | /r/askTRP | 15/08/15 10:32 PM |
| 2 | TRP has made me paranoidThat's fun for a little while, and while I don't know of a clear alternative to offer, what kind of life is that? Women aren't the end-all, be-all. Certainly not the top of the hierarchy of needs and maybe not even the second to the top. My suggestion is to look at things that would satisfy those top layers of that pyramid, and that those things not be women. I'm starting to realize fighting fire with fire just makes the fire grow bigger. Pissing into a sewer doesn't contaminate it, nor does you… | /r/askTRP | 15/08/15 10:30 PM |
| 1 | TRP has made me paranoidRight. So you can: MGTOW it. Bang sluts, don't marry/cohabitate/commit. Pretend you've found a unicorn, wife her up, get done raw. Slam down booze/drugs, or do some other form of suicide. | /r/askTRP | 15/08/15 09:59 PM |
| 5 | how many women would you estimate are or can be attracted to shy and socially awkward guys?That is horrible. No, it's just horribly ineffective, as /u/wtknight alluded to. A shy and awkward man is going to have a fucking rough time, even if he targets shy and awkward women. A shy and awkward woman can at least put on makeup, dress well, slam down a glass or two of wine, and hit the bar, and let men who aren't shy or awkward do the work for her. He'd do far better developing even a little game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 09:43 PM |
| 1 | TRP has made me paranoidI can consider my relationship very fragile. Counter thoughts? Nope. Assume that she'll jump ship if/when a better option comes along. But so what? Your happiness oughtn't come from this woman or any particular woman. | /r/askTRP | 15/08/15 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth?Am I wrong? Yep. I'm far more interested in is than ought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 09:16 PM |
| 10 | Question for RP: Explain to me the foundation for the concept of women getting hit on by unattractive guys "not counting" or "being creeped on".Unfortunately I'm at the point that I always reach with TRP, where I see their analysis of the dating/sexual marketplace and think there is an element of validity to it, but then there is no range for differences because AWALT. OK, so consider this. I'll take you at face value, you don't care about betas hitting on you. But many women do - every man here has seen this first hand. So, why not treat every woman as if she's going to be repulsed by beta attention, by not being a beta in the first pl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 08:54 PM |
| 5 | Question for RP: Explain to me the foundation for the concept of women getting hit on by unattractive guys "not counting" or "being creeped on".where TRP seems to think that because they are denied sex that they are being dehumanized by women. Ha, that's funny. No, being dehumanized by women isn't being denied sex. Being dehumanized by women is women denying that a man ought to desire sex with them, that he's somehow evil/defective/bad for doing that. And, lest you get the wrong idea - that dehumanization is OK. Not railing about the injustice of it all (although if I were interested in justice from the SMP this would be obviously unjus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth?That doesn't mean that every single woman on the earth is weaker than every man on the planet. Which, while true, is meaningless in practice. I already know what unfortunately "is", thanks. Cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth?life is not all about brawn Both true and irrelevant. Women are overwhelmingly physically inferior to men. And you understand the definition of "physically" in this context. You don't want to cop to this obvious truth for reasons that are unclear, but likely ideological. women are still people and deserve to be treated as such. Again, ought versus is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth?because of their supposed inherent inferiority. There's nothing supposed about it. Women are overwhelmingly physically inferior to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 06:41 PM |
| 3 | Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth?You're talking about 'ought', and I'm talking about 'is'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 06:34 PM |
| 5 | Prenups can be overturned. Don't get married.I'm invested in the institution called "successful living". All men of power that I interact with ... Sure. Marriage is a convenient and useful fig leaf for pastors, politicians, and others in positions that require a show of social proof/responsibility. Look at Bill and Hillary Clinton - marriage benefits them both, it's a business decision. | /r/TheRedPill | 15/08/15 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Ranger School and the Deconstruction of Masculine BondingI think medicine and the military are both somewhat protected from being "feminized" just because they are held accountable to a higher standard. Here's the difference, if you fuck up a surgery the results are apparent immediately - minutes/hours/days/weeks. Then come the malpractice suits. If you fuck up in the peacetime military, the results might not be apparent for decades - not until the next time that your military gets into a conflict and gets its nose bloodied. In the military, there is … | /r/TheRedPill | 15/08/15 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth?women were seen as a more equal gender Without civil society and a rule of law, women are quickly proven to not be an equal gender. Men are bigger, stronger, and more violent than women. The power dynamic is who can punch who in the face, and women are going to lose that matchup every time. Consider that for most societies, equal rights for women is a relatively recent invention. Historically women have been more or less property of a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 04:03 PM |
| 2 | how many women would you estimate are or can be attracted to shy and socially awkward guys?I do want to emphasize the difference between shyness and utter social ineptitude, though. I suspect that the distinction between those two would be something akin to the "I like awkward nerdy guys" statement. AKA, lost on those "shy" men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 03:56 PM |
| 2 | how many women would you estimate are or can be attracted to shy and socially awkward guys?I always get approached by guys who are the exact opposite though Yeah, introvert nerds tend to not approach women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 03:53 PM |
| 3 | TRP: The fire that burned too hot?It's just for laffs, mostly. The "funny" in "funny and sad" above wasn't that kind of funny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 03:48 PM |
| 6 | TRP: The fire that burned too hot?I see plenty of "red-pillers" rave against "AWALT" and "hypergamy", as if they were some kind of revolutionaries. I see plenty of blue pill types make hyperbolic assertions, too. I'm underwhelmed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth?It could always be worse. That, however, doesn't mean that here/now is good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 03:22 PM |
| 3 | Does nobody get the point of Roosh's article 'How to Stop Rape'?Basically, Roosh repulses these people and they know he's a soft target. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 11:39 PM |
| 28 | TRP: The fire that burned too hot?Should society have some sort of system of "controlled burns" to avoid massive explosions such as TRP? Someone committing suicide by taking a rifle up on top of a building and shooting until the SWAT team settles it is a massive explosion. Rioters burning down blocks of the city is a massive explosion. People ranting online isn't a massive explosion. The fact that it's seen as such is both funny and sad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 11:28 PM |
| 7 | How many of the field reports posted on TRP do you believe?How many of the field reports posted on TRP do you believe? My former self wouldn't have believed my FRs. I'm a former beta who's proven he can first date F-close good enough looking women to satisfy him. Hey guys I fucked a 4 who was telling me how bad I was and how she doesn't sleep around, got anal too, it was good isn't much to learn from though. Do you believe that the OP is always being truthful? Doesn't matter to me. Red pill ideas work well enough for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 11:13 PM |
| 4 | Can TRP admit that masculinist societies are hell on earth?Do TRPers at least admit that this is what happens when the male imperative gains total control? It's almost like a balance between men and women has to be struck in order to have a stable society. Perhaps things such as marriage and monogamy contribute to that balance. Who knows. In any case, that's an academic concern. The world of a wife and family and working to support them both is going, going, gone. Only suckers sign up for the kind of legal and financial risk that this culture gives you.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 11:08 PM |
| 11 | Does nobody get the point of Roosh's article 'How to Stop Rape'?I dunno, I've had good luck with that so far by drinking from known good sources and avoiding places that seemed sketchy. For instance, some weirdo was inviting randoms to "his place" for "drinks", but I politely declined. It just seems like this whole water poisoning thing has been blown out of proportion, you know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 10:52 PM |
| 8 | Does nobody get the point of Roosh's article 'How to Stop Rape'?Anyways, drinks tomorrow night at my place? Weren't you the kid that was talking about poisoning the water supply? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 10:44 PM |
| 2 | Does nobody get the point of Roosh's article 'How to Stop Rape'?What he was trying to say and what he said sound like two totally different things to a lot of people. Yep, that's a side effect of satire. In fact the best satire isn't stuff that nobody gets, the best satire is stuff that only your opponents fail to get. Your side and the great mass of men in the undecided middle all get it, so your opponents look doubly ridiculous with their earnest response. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 10:44 PM |
| 2 | Does nobody get the point of Roosh's article 'How to Stop Rape'?If you're dodging the issue this hard you must really not feel comfortable defending your position! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 10:34 PM |
| 5 | Does nobody get the point of Roosh's article 'How to Stop Rape'?Now you're the one who doesn't understand satire That wasn't satire either. how do you know that I'm not double-satirizing you right now?! I'm confident you aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 10:33 PM |
| 5 | Does nobody get the point of Roosh's article 'How to Stop Rape'?Satire only works when I agree with it So you think that I agree with the paragraph I referred to above? Really? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 10:28 PM |
| 4 | Does nobody get the point of Roosh's article 'How to Stop Rape'?Is there a more pointless way to debate than insulting the other person's grammar? A careful read of what I wrote would show you that I said your grammar was bad. That's a statement of fact, not an insult. at the very least it's clearly legible which is what matters. Not really. You're writing for persuasive purposes which means that clear legibility is pretty far down the list - as any prepared statement from a politician or PR department will show you. If you're dodging the issue this hard you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 10:26 PM |
| 7 | Does nobody get the point of Roosh's article 'How to Stop Rape'?I think the only way to avoid a regret rape accusation... See, now this is satire. Poor li'l /u/Will_Im_Not could learn a thing or three from you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 10:17 PM |
| 6 | Does nobody get the point of Roosh's article 'How to Stop Rape'?We're looking at the same comment section, right? Apparently not, since you think that screenshot disproves my statement. Lol that's strange, because I just copypasted Roosh's article and replaced some words. Copy-pasting satire doesn't result in satire, although I can see how it results in grammar problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 10:15 PM |
| 5 | Does nobody get the point of Roosh's article 'How to Stop Rape'?Take a look at that comment section below the article. Yeah, there's a lot of outrage and cluck-clucking from people who think that some Tinderella's false rape charge is their moral imperative. People that don't know Jonathan Swift from Taylor Swift still give page views to Roosh though, so good for him. Do you apply the same standards towards other laws? The problem is that your attempt at satire doesn't succeed. It's not even grammatical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 10:04 PM |
| 5 | Does nobody get the point of Roosh's article 'How to Stop Rape'?Note that at this time there is no flair assigned to this post. And apparently this article is so reprehensible, it justifies assaulting a man minding his own business. No, this article is a convenient fig leaf for the real reasons for assaulting him. Consider that rappers make plenty of money and have plenty of women lined up, all the while talking about smacking bitches around. Yet, nobody's throwing pitchers of beer on them. A couple reasons for that: Rappers are high status/highly attractive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 09:51 PM |
| 2 | Sympathy For Sluts and Ugly Girls? Bloopers Say No, if They're Consistent.Bloopers Say No, if They're Consistent. I disagree. They're consistently praising and excusing women and consistently demonizing men. The fact that the two failures in the sexual marketplace that you describe are women absolves them of responsibility or blame. It's not Sally's fault or Betty's fault, it's the fault of men - some men, some where, some how. It's a simple equation. If something bad happens, it's a man's fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 01:16 PM |
| 9 | Do relationships between men with low n-counts and women with high n-counts ever work out? How do you manage jealousy?that it feels incredibly vulnerable to think about revealing myself in that regard. Don't fucking do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 12:55 PM |
| 3 | Do you think Thomas Jefferson's biotruths sound a lot like the red pill's?If Hitler was a vegetarian, Why did he eat sausages and bulls testicle extracts? But let's run with it.... I don't know anything about that, I'm just repeating something I saw on a subreddit dedicated to making fun of vegetarians. I don't even know what those things are, lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 02:40 AM |
| 6 | Do you think Thomas Jefferson's biotruths sound a lot like the red pill's?I'm not saying anything except to ask if there's a similarity in TJ's words and the red pills. "You know who else was a vegetarian? Hitler, that's who." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 02:04 AM |
| 5 | Do you think Thomas Jefferson's biotruths sound a lot like the red pill's?Don't bother spouting more red pill "bio truths" in order to justify yourself. Not listening. So you're saying that any observable biological differences between men and women have no possible effect on their behavior? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 01:54 AM |
| 3 | Why does BP believe that Roosh advocates Rape?Sorry, you've got to break it down for me using crayons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 01:45 AM |
| 1 | CMV: the fact that TheRedPill is right is what makes people so uncomfortableBut your entire argument breaks down because girls liking confident guys isn't JUST a red pill idea. No, my argument is that you aren't differentiating RP ideas that are obviously true from ones that are obviously false by any criteria other than your opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 01:43 AM |
| 2 | Why does BP believe that Roosh advocates Rape?you do realize rape isn't an act comitted for sexual gratification, right? I guess in a way it is Well, which one is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 01:42 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Men created feminism, so RPers shouldn't complainAnd that's a big girl too. Not fat (although she's got some blubber) but a big ol' softball type girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 01:28 AM |
| 0 | Do you think Thomas Jefferson's biotruths sound a lot like the red pill's?I believe that women are physically inferior to men, as a biotruth. Do you see "no qualitative difference" between Jefferson's arguments and mine? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 01:22 AM |
| 1 | CMV: the fact that TheRedPill is right is what makes people so uncomfortableDo you disagree with that that? You can believe whatever you like. Fact of the matter is that my characterization of your viewpoint is correct: TRP ideas are obviously true, except when they're obviously false and wrong and bad. You've got precious little to differentiate the two other than your tastes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/15 01:17 AM |
| 2 | CMV: the fact that TheRedPill is right is what makes people so uncomfortableGirls like confident people isn't a rep pill trademarked idea. Guys should make sure that they take care of themselves to land a girlfriend isn't the proprietary idea of the red pill. So, TRP ideas are obviously true, except when they're obviously false and wrong and bad. If you want to turn this isn't a right/wrong issue, go ahead, but I won't be your dance partner. "CMV: the fact that TheRedPill is right is what makes people so uncomfortable." Where have I read that before? Oh right, the title… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/15 01:15 PM |
| 3 | CMV: the fact that TheRedPill is right is what makes people so uncomfortableI'm "continuing the cycle of hate" by being snarky? Reported. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/15 01:11 PM |
| 2 | CMV: the fact that TheRedPill is right is what makes people so uncomfortableA lot of conclusions that TRP makes are not about objective, or even measurable, things. Sure. But that doesn't mean that those things don't exist. For instance: You can't pull out your calibrated SMV-meter and test to determine your HB level to two decimal places, but you understand that some people are more attractive than others and you can place people into a relative ranking of attractiveness. You can determine which factors are generally attractive and which of those generally attractive f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/15 01:09 PM |
| 2 | CMV: the fact that TheRedPill is right is what makes people so uncomfortableThe Redpill brushes up against no brainers. So, TRP ideas are obviously true, except when they're obviously false and wrong and bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/15 01:04 PM |
| 3 | CMV: the fact that TheRedPill is right is what makes people so uncomfortableI don't know how to change your view. It makes me uncomfortable because its a really damaging toxic way to look at the world. Suppose my worldview was that a certain percentage of the populace was secretly aliens, like in They Live, and I spent my energies trying to make the magic sunglasses to reveal them like in that movie. Certainly that would be a "damaging toxic way to look at the world", but I doubt that you'd get your feathers ruffled over it. Consider the reasons why one worldview upsets… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/15 01:03 PM |
| 2 | TRP: Are biotruths applicable to issues faced by men?I'd like to know why TRP doesn't discuss the negative aspects of their biology and how to overcome them. I recall reading something on TRP about how white knighting/Captain Save A Hoe behavior is driven by biology. It makes sense. There is very little self improvement in TRP in the area of fixing negative aspects There is plenty on TRP about the negative impacts of addictions (drugs/booze/porn/sex/internet/video games). I personally think therapy is effective I personally will never see a therap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/15 12:54 PM |
| 1 | If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger?What did you do and for how long? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/15 12:38 PM |
| 3 | If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger?Dr Nerdlove The guy whose advice is to double down on feminism in order to get laid? Yeah, "no doubt" there are many more like him. Problem is that I want effective advice, not feminist drivel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 12:54 PM |
| 5 | If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger?I want to become more fit OK, suppose I want to have sex with more and better quality women. Or any women at all. Where do I go to learn that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 01:36 AM |
| 1 | So I moved to SF and blamed the city for my low SMVIf you slept 4 hours every day, you'd be dead-eyed too. Not normal. Manic episodes? | /r/TheRedPill | 12/08/15 01:20 AM |
| 1 | So I moved to SF and blamed the city for my low SMVtldr; I'm not a fat, dumb bitch that's not my fucking problem. If those photos of a reasonably attractive but dead-eyed woman are of you, of course. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/08/15 01:17 AM |
| 3 | Is the existence of TRP justified by the mainstream's denial of women's DV and emotional abuse towards men? If not, what alternatives do we have?Note that at this time, no flair is assigned to this post. Is the existence of TRP justified by the mainstream's denial of women's DV and emotional abuse towards men? No, nor does TRP need any such justification. If not, what alternatives do we have? "Not justified" doesn't mean "not effective". Follow baseline red pill advice. Don't get married and don't cohabitate, because the game is stacked against men. Getting yourself in legal entanglements with a woman is bad. Let her go find a beta to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 01:10 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesI just wanted to point out that it's a pretty common thing to do. Sure, it's like women flaking/not confirming instead of grabbing their nuts and saying No Thanks. That's why TRP says to treat shitty dates and flakes as a hard next. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 11:24 PM |
| 25 | Going beyond your morals: Sex for cash, and it's you getting paid.$150k cash paid in monthly installments. Transfer of an apartment valued at ~$450k upon conclusion of the 6 months. There's a reason that hookers get the money up front. What happens if he decides after that first month that he doesn't want to hold up his end of the bargain? Where's your cocksucker contract? Where's your ass-for-cash escrow? Gonna take him to court? If you want the money then you will want to get paid, let's see here, about $1550 up front, in cash, each session, assuming you tru… | /r/TheRedPill | 11/08/15 11:20 PM |
| 1 | It's Not Misogyny or Smelly, Disheveled Male Nerds Keeping Women Out of STEM [The Register]It seems like the different groups of the manosphere just can't get along. <shrug> MRAs are tilting at windmills, while I'm spreading legs. Good for them I guess? Well, they do say that women shouldn't get to vote like that would magically change everything. The electorate is incentivized to be irresponsible, so cutting half of it out would only help. Woman suffrage isn't going away any time soon though, so there's not much use to me worrying about chicks stuffing ballots. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 10:37 PM |
| 1 | It's Not Misogyny or Smelly, Disheveled Male Nerds Keeping Women Out of STEM [The Register]No , I simply don't see what solution TRPillers are proposing ? None. Not every problem has a solution. What do they want ? Different things. Some want understanding. Some want to make their marriage/LTR work. Some want to raise kids in a better environment than they had. Me, I want to bang sluts and have fun in the sack. I can't speak much for all that other stuff. If they really care about politics why don't they support the MRAs instead of constantly shaming them? Again, a top level post aski… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 10:26 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesYou are so magnanimous. Yup. Handsome and sexually skilled as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 10:21 PM |
| 1 | It's Not Misogyny or Smelly, Disheveled Male Nerds Keeping Women Out of STEM [The Register]Consider that red pill sexual strategy is working within what is admittedly a failed/failing society. Asking yourself how we got here, what could get us out, how far we have yet to go, might produce some useful answers. Some small and mistrustful part of me is thinking that you aren't looking to make TRP more efficient but instead are looking for some "gotcha" to wave around like a trophy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 10:20 PM |
| 2 | It's Not Misogyny or Smelly, Disheveled Male Nerds Keeping Women Out of STEM [The Register]I personally don't understand why they discuss politics How would you propose to work the SMP beyond monkey-see-monkey-do without understanding broader concepts? The difference between PUA and red pill is precisely in the attempt to find root causes. yet shame the MRAs You should make a top level post asking that question of TRP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 10:16 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesWell, thanks but I am not into bestiality. I am super flattered that you think I am an expert in something though I take people at their word until they're exposed otherwise. I guess the antelope blowjob training stuff is just all sex talk/erotica. Whatever waters your grass. I thought with my smaller lady hamster brain that wasn't possible. Technically, I've encountered multiple women who were experts at something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 10:12 PM |
| 3 | Are red pillers deluded to think that born betas can raise their SMV enough to have lots of casual sex with reasonably good looking women?which is still better than sex with 4 or a 5. Here's where we part ways. Sex with a 4, who wants me, is infinitely preferable to sex with a dime who's being paid. It's no big deal though - more average/below average women for me, lower hooker prices for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 09:47 PM |
| 2 | Does female sexual attraction happen at first encounter, or can it occur over time?I think it's one of those things that's technically true but practically false, that the payoff is almost never worth it. However from a woman's perspective, they only see the successful orbits, where a dude builds attraction to them over time. The host of losers out there in the Oort cloud of the friendzone are invisible. This snaps the reports of success by women here into focus. Every time they saw it work, it worked. But they don't see Beta Barry going home to jerk it to her Facebook page an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 09:42 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesActually he said The only time a woman's mouth should be open is if your penis is inside of it. Nothing about antelopes. To me this appears to be a combination of plugging some chick's talk hole and getting his prick sucked - a "win-win situation", I think it's called. Presumably the talk that comes out of a man's mouth, or an antelope's mouth for that matter, is either neutral or even welcomed by the dude. Now me, I'm nicer. I paid women a complement and everything. Nicer tits than an antelope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 09:37 PM |
| 2 | Does female sexual attraction happen at first encounter, or can it occur over time?I think the point here is cost/benefit. Sure, maybe orbiting works sometimes, for some definition of work. But in that 4 to 6 months a man spends in orbit around some chick he could have been churning through hundreds of prospects, some of which are going to have that primal want-to-fuck lust for him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 09:30 PM |
| 2 | Does female sexual attraction happen at first encounter, or can it occur over time?Ok but why would it though? Because male and female sexual attraction works in different ways. Women can be made horny by words and actions. For instance a physically unattractive man with great game can lay women, as long as he gets the chance to game them. Women can develop attraction over time (reference PUA "buying temperature" for an example of a short time span attraction build). Men - not so much. Men are overwhelmingly visual and make the fuck/no fuck decision quickly. In my personal exp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 09:27 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesWomen have better tits than antelopes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 09:21 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesI usually only use one-word answers when I want to get out of a situation. You know what I want to do when I want to get out of a shitty date? I make an excuse and leave, as opposed to dropping hints in the hope that the person I'm with will take the lead and take action for me. Agency. Give it a whirl, girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 09:18 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesSo you agree that the imbalance exists. Same way that my dick is like 6 inches long and these womens' clits are like a quarter inch long. It's a serious imbalance in external sexual organs. I still think it would be more optimal if <shrug> My wishes in the SMP aren't going to make more poon drop into my lap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 08:31 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesWe understand that terpers don't have the capacity for sapiosexuality. You don't have to remind us. Oh come down off that high horse. There's nothing I've said that doesn't apply to heterosexual men in general. Lookit the market for pornography. /r/gonewild isn't populated with women reading their PhD theses to men, it's populated by conventionally attractive women showing the stuff Mommy gave them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 08:27 PM |
| 2 | persistence pays offbelongs in /r/ThankTRP. modz plz | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 06:18 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesa joke is a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter Well, I laughed at it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 06:16 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesWomen are not valued by redpillers for anything other than the way the look/fuck. More precisely, looks and fucks are mandatory characteristics. A woman's college degree or dry wit aren't going to get my dick hard for her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 06:15 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesGo ahead and think of me as a misogynist. When you read "misogynist", just substitute "blasphemer". Turns out that it doesn't change anything... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 06:05 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesAny woman who sits there contributing nothing isnt worth my time That's fine, everyone has their own criteria. I'm not terribly picky as to personality as long as she's enthused and involved when she's on her back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 05:34 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesMen need to learn to keep their dick in their pants and stop rewarding crappy behaviors from women Being boring and lame isn't "crappy behavior". Not giving up the ass is the "crappy behavior" that won't get rewarded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 05:33 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesYou people are ridiculous. What? Fingers in the mouth can be very dominant and very hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 05:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesCool, then you can address the CMV part: Disagree, because men pursue women and women are pursued by men. Men overwhelmingly lead because that's a masculine trait. Women overwhelmingly follow because that's a feminine trait. It isn't disproportionate it's complementary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 05:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on dates"Call out" in this context isn't giving her a lecture on her behavior and a stern warning to try harder. "Call out" is more like saying I'm bored, let's go for a walk, then escalating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 05:24 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesIncredible. And wrong. Sometimes your tongue or fingers are in there instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 05:21 PM |
| 19 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesRonda is suggesting that a man just has to natural exude "interest". He has to have an aura created by attractiveness and confidence. If a man has to "come up with activities", he must be boring. AKA he has to have confidence and forwardness and Game. Time with him has to seem like effortless fun, not trying hard to win her over. Let her get swept away and let things just happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 05:19 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesHer idea of "being entertaining" is literally "being entertained". "We had fun" means "he showed me a good time". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 05:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesBut at the same time, the idea of her sitting there like some entitled princess giving 1-word answers is ridiculous Call her out on it and make her shit or get off the pot. Think amused mastery, not butthurt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 05:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesif a girl messages you first, there's no way you can expect her to take it anywhere because if you let her, the conversation ends up drying out That's why you get her # and use it to coordinate a date in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 05:10 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesshe listed Liberal & Feminist on her profile That equates to "slutty". Take her out and tell her some bullshit about society repressing womens' sexuality. Take me somewhere to take pictures. Make it interesting! AKA, all that feminist talk is so much malarkey, she's telling you she wants to be led. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 05:09 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesI'd love to see what "being entertaining" means to a "normal" woman. Give her good feelings/tingles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 05:01 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on datesMen have a disproportionate amount of responsibility to entertain on dates Disagree, because men pursue women and women are pursued by men. Men overwhelmingly lead because that's a masculine trait. Women overwhelmingly follow because that's a feminine trait. It isn't disproportionate it's complementary. I feel like it is unfair The SMP doesn't care about your feelings. You can be offended at some Do Nothing Bitch sitting there giving one word answers on a date, while the more effective men are t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 04:59 PM |
| 3 | If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger?No, you should date down, because them hoes are more loyal when they're looking up the SMV scale at you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 03:52 PM |
| 2 | If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger?they believe that game is more important than looks . According to my experiences this is wrong. Game gets more emphasis because game is far more cost effective to develop than looks. Most AFCs have shit tier game. They might be pudgy too, but their game is fucking awful. If game were looks they'd be 400 pounders sprinkled with Cheeto dust and sweat. Game is also harder to get started on because you need to put yourself out there. The wall for looks hits men too. It's just softer for them becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 03:46 PM |
| 6 | Are red pillers deluded to think that born betas can raise their SMV enough to have lots of casual sex with reasonably good looking women?Is /TRP wrong when it tells him that he can raise his (all around) SMV enough to completely turn things around and have a much better experience on the dating and/or sexual marketplace? So much better, that he could have never imagined it before? Not wrong at all. I'm 5'8", used to be about 120 pounds. Beta as fuck, thirsty as fuck. Wifed up the first woman that showed me attention. Post-divorce, jumped into a LTR with the first chick I had the nuts to hit on (a solid 3). Etcetera. Fast forward … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 03:25 PM |
| 9 | What can we learn from the recent feminist backlash to the r/menslib sub?What we can learn is that certain people will insist on ignorance: Prove to me that is how 'western dating' works. Verifiable academic proof. Because if you can't, that's where you're wrong. This stance, that nothing can be known until someone writes an academic paper about it, is a fairly pervasive theme on this subreddit. Oh yea? Show me a study that says that red pill ideas work. It's a form of nerd sniping, because nerds will run around in vain trying to find studies and argue over statistic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 02:57 PM |
| 1 | If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger?Looks are more important than game. Most betas have shit tier game. Their total lack of ability there is far more of a hinderance than their (possibly) ugly faces. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 02:36 PM |
| 3 | How does the red pill justify the behaviour of my ex?she has new boyfriend I have no idea if they've fucked yet To make things even better the relationship is gonna be long distance Maybe this "boyfriend" is nothing more than an orbiter. Consider that it doesn't take a whole lot to say 'yes' to a proposal from a dude in another country. | /r/askTRP | 11/08/15 06:46 AM |
| 7 | If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger?The Red Pill is made up of entitled narcissists who think that they deserve sex with the best women even if they don't have the qualities that would attract said women. The existence of the HB scale alone is enough to disprove this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 06:39 AM |
| 1 | The mystery behind pursuing lots of womenI'm sorry if I'm not so familiar with your revered TRP lingo. You should be sorry, because you need to understand the basic concepts in order to discuss red pill ideas. You're unprepared and apparently unashamed of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 06:32 AM |
| 1 | The mystery behind pursuing lots of womenIsn't that putting the pussy on the pedestal, though? Not at all. You fail to understand the concept of pedestalization. Pedestalization is ascribing an overwhelmingly disproportionate value to something, not simply valuing something. I value street tacos, they are yummy and delicious. I don't look at street tacos as some extraordinary thing that will solve my problems nor do I think that any particular street taco is better than any other, before I've had it. Same with girls' tacos. I like them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 06:30 AM |
| 9 | If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger?I think everyone is pretty shallow. Which is why red pill tactics work so well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 06:16 AM |
| 9 | If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger?I think they like to think they are the only ones with problems. More like, they care more about their problems than the problems of other people. Shocking, that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 05:45 AM |
| -1 | Daily Reminder That All Women Are Whores And All Whores Want To Fuck.The economist Adam Smith, in response to a friend's worry at the ruin of the nation: Be assured young friend, that there is a great deal of ruin in a nation. This society will go on down with you or without you. Your greatest power is over how you react to it and how you prepare for it. | /r/TheRedPill | 11/08/15 05:33 AM |
| 8 | What's the best way to get over an ex-girlfriend?Cut contact with her. No texts, no Facebook. Cold turkey. Hit the gym - pick up weights, put them down. Go fuck other women. | /r/askTRP | 11/08/15 05:22 AM |
| 1 | How to handle a flake?The red pill in me says, cut your losses, move on. If she was interested she would call, text or something at least. Correct. Don't chase, replace. | /r/askTRP | 11/08/15 05:06 AM |
| 1 | Do you respect women?Do you respect women? Not by default. I assume they use the pussy pass in proportion to their looks/culture until proven otherwise. i am no longer generous to women because i wont even give them the chance to not take me for granted. Good. | /r/askTRP | 11/08/15 05:04 AM |
| 9 | If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger?Looks aren't under one's control. Some factors of looks are under one's control. You can work to lose fat and gain muscle. You can get a better hairstyle or shave it off it you're bald. You can dress better. And Looks isn't nearly as important as Game. Everyone can work on Game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 04:08 AM |
| 13 | If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger?I personally really think /r/TRP[1] subreddit specifically is full of negativity Yes, because the sexual marketplace is full of negativity - if you're an awkward male. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 03:49 AM |
| 9 | If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger?How attractive we are determines our success with the opposite sex, and not much else. But for men, "attractiveness" comes largely from factors under their control: Looks, Money, Status, Game. Good luck with teaching young men the basics of, let alone the importance of, Game. The feminists would hang you from the nearest lamp post. It isn't cynical to teach men about these things but in our current culture it's impossible - outside the internet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 03:47 AM |
| 12 | If you believe the redpill is made up of angry men, what do you believe is the cause of that anger and what could alleviate that anger?I imagine if they worked on improving their lives , they could alleviate that "anger" Where do you "imagine" that these men should go and what do you "imagine" that they should do, to improve their lives? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 03:36 AM |
| 4 | Pual Elam take on the Roosh V incedentBut I'd rather have a drink thrown in my face then be threatened with rape or being shot/bombed. I'd rather that people who commit violence get locked away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 03:34 AM |
| 5 | Pual Elam take on the Roosh V incedentHe had a drink thrown in his face, yes. Which is assault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 03:12 AM |
| 1 | Does the game really get easier for guys in America as they get older? Explain college!I just cannot see, outside of being a celebrity, what a guy who is 30 years old can do to compete with the sex life of a handsome college kid in the right fraternity or a college athlete at a big school. I don't compare it to them. I compare it to myself 20 years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 12:50 AM |
| 6 | Pual Elam take on the Roosh V incedentWhat has happened to Anita cannot be compared to Roosh's experience... She has gangs of thugs following her all over the internet, threatening to do violence to her in real life. Right, that doesn't compare to someone getting violence actually done to them in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 12:45 AM |
| 0 | The mystery behind pursuing lots of womenbut RPers are fundamentally concerned with feeding their insecurity. Top level comments need to be from RP folks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAAnd I've seen the stats on the age ranges of readers of TRP. I'd like to see a comparison with the stats of the ages of the readership of the rest of reddit. Betcha they aren't too different. all while never really getting what he wanted the most- being loved for who he truly is. The conclusion that I've come to is that who I truly am is unattractive and therefore not lovable. Else, the people to whom I've exposed my true self wouldn't have been disgusted with it. So I don't show who I truly am,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/15 12:31 AM |
| 7 | In Which Roosh V is Assaulted in Montreal, CanadaAny time a woman on RP reveals herself as a woman. Nope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 06:48 PM |
| 13 | In Which Roosh V is Assaulted in Montreal, Canadaalleged | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 06:47 PM |
| 1 | All Pills what is your advice to avoid being a side guy/side bitch?Sorry, TRP is (as noted by you) morally bankrupt LOL. I guess we're all done here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 06:33 PM |
| 3 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAThat should be a red flag for you. Think about it. Perhaps red pill ideas aren't a panacea for solving all of one's problems. Those are old tidbits of advice. Yet TRP obviously brings something new to the table, else it wouldn't have sprung into existence. And I am willing to bet that's why people eventually stop reading, posting and using the TRP ideas. You make an unwarranted assumption that stopping posting = stopping reading = stopping using the ideas. You make that assumption because you wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 06:13 PM |
| 3 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUASo you're agreeing with me that TRP is not something that should be used long term? No opinion yet. Come back in 5 years I might have some perspective. it's not going to help people put their lives back together and be peaceful, kind and well-adjusted human beings. Consider the possibility that they'll never get there. Not every cripple learns to walk again after all. Again, read that Confessions of a Reformed Incel. He's broken. Patched back together, functional, better than he was, but not wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 06:00 PM |
| 2 | All Pills what is your advice to avoid being a side guy/side bitch?I think those people kinda suck. I would guess I am not alone in that either. Hence why we don't talk about TRP in real life. Again, something that is understood by those who "just get it" but needs to be spelled out for those that don't. There's nothing in TRP that couldn't be made acceptable by applying standard language and understatement to it. But because the people who need TRP need things spelled out, you get to read about concepts like "dread game" and get your back up about them. People… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 05:51 PM |
| 5 | Understanding men and women. The best compliment you got that was't intended as a compliment.Those people didn't want to insult you I understand that quite well, thanks. don't expect them to think that far for you Good Lord, do you think I'm somehow railing about the injustice of it all? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 05:44 PM |
| 3 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUASomething I don't see in that sub. Once you outgrow banging sluts, then what? Continue to post about sexual strategy? Or move along? I remember reading a complaint once from a transgender activist that women who successfully transition just tend to fade away from the movement. It makes sense - now that you have everything you wanted, why hang around that stuff any more? Just go live your new life. Basing life on a dystopian film is probably not the best idea. It's an analogy, not a plan for life… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 05:40 PM |
| 12 | Understanding men and women. The best compliment you got that was't intended as a compliment.Back in my awkward beta days, being told how nice I was and how I'd find a nice girl someday. It was comforting at the time, but looking back it was a punch in the gut: zzz, you're unattractive and miserable and unmasculine, that's why nobody wants you. I hope that someday someone who's at least a halfway decent person will settle for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 05:33 PM |
| 3 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAis it really success? Sure. Banging sluts is much better than involuntary celibacy - at least according to my values. You presume that your values are the same as the values of others. Are they happy? Less unhappy. Like money, sex won't give you happiness - just a different set of problems. But the new problems are easier to deal with than the old ones. Give me independent wealth any day, versus a negative bank account. The red pill analogy from the Matrix movie is apropos. Consider the scene af… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 05:26 PM |
| 2 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAAll day long you have red-pillers slut shaming There are two factions in TRP. One is the trad-con, want a RPW + kids, type, and the other is looking to get his dick wet. It isn't contradictory as much as it is two different end goals. ... the boys are whining about how she’ll just never find a man ... They're likely as wrong about that as the women are who stumble in here and lecture us on how red pill tactics will never work. People need to listen to others with experience in the SMP, because t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAPoint is though that it isn't "nuts" - it's a different system of values than you or I have. Is it the best for her long term? Maybe -- if her goal is to be the BMOC's wife into her old age... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 04:58 PM |
| 4 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAHistory shows that humans are a bit more nuanced than that, wouldn't you agree? Maybe you shouldn't just glance at it. A glance at history is all that's needed to disprove the idea that the opinions of the masses is a good moral standard. Comments like these really shed light on men in TRP are having such trouble. The problem with snark like that is that TRP'ers have better results applying red pill ideas than they did before they applied red pill ideas. So, they dismiss that kind of snark as, w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Does The Red Pill set up sock puppet accounts of 'women 's help conform its theory?"I am actually experiencing symptoms of severe anxiety from the knowledge I find here" Most people find it hard to empathize with folks with mental illness. It's like if you were too scared of other drivers' unpredictability to drive a car. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 04:48 PM |
| 2 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAIt's nuts because good sex is important in a relationship, so figuring out how you and your potential partner click on the sack before committing is important. It's a tradeoff. I guarantee that OP isn't looking for the best sex ever in a committed relationship, she's willing to trade that for a better provider. Which is just silly, kind of narcissistic, and as they put it in that one movie, it "puts the pussy on a pedestal." She's looking for a man who will get attached and put her on some sort … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 04:43 PM |
| 3 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUABetter according to a basic moral standard in many cultures around the world. What the general populace thinks isn't much of a standard, as a quick glance at history shows. Like attracts like That's frankly wrong. Men and women are attracted to different things, hence the idea of masculine and feminine characteristics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 04:42 PM |
| 2 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAThis strategy is obviously only for top 20% women, just like TRP tactics work best for top 20% men. Not every man can keep a soft harem, not every woman can make this shit work. Lookit her point about going to the gym and wearing makeup - she's in the top half of women just from that alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 04:39 PM |
| 5 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAI am curious why the BPers in this thread don't get into your face for that point alone. Because they're all on Team WomanTM. Womens' underhanded actions are "just being safe", mens' are "creepy/manipulative". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 04:38 PM |
| 2 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUACome on dog. We use the term "sexual marketplace", which implies a value exchange. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 04:34 PM |
| 5 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAWhile the better women and men aren't even participating in their foolish battles. "Better" according to what standard? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAThis clay foundation might work on a casual basis where you only need to sell your illusion for a short time, but it would not work on a long term basis on any woman of substance. Nice sentence, it allows you to dismiss every chick that red pill tactics work on as "not a woman of substance" - whatever that smear means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 04:29 PM |
| 8 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAThink of the forest versus the trees. Tactical concerns are immediate - "how can I take this chick to bed?" Strategic concerns are broader - "how can I take chicks in general to bed"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 04:21 PM |
| 10 | Men, does the recent thread encourage you to open up emotionally?for fuck's sake. It's just a song. I found it made the point eloquently. Sorry the source rubs you the wrong way. If you actually believe that it's impossible for you to have a healthy relationship that fulfills both your and your partner's physical, emotional, and mental needs, then just don't bother with relationships. If the masses can't afford bread, then let them eat cake, huh? "opening up" to my partners has been an incredibly rewarding experience. Good for you. It's been a uniformly shitt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 03:09 AM |
| 2 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAInteresting. I take it she's following these rules now as well? I take it your end game is marriage + kids? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 02:55 AM |
| 3 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUANope, doesn't happen. It sounds like you're speaking from firsthand experience, which is making me draw into question whether you have sex at all. I find the OP credible with her story and my own experiences and observations. I'm not even sure you had a cogent point anywhere in your post. Sorry you aren't following along. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 02:37 AM |
| 10 | Men, does the recent thread encourage you to open up emotionally?The SMP is brutal to those who entered it unprepared for the realities. 2Pac said it eloquently: Cause it's a hard life nigga only thugs survive Ain't no love, 'less a nigga slangin' drugs or high Conversations with these bitches on my mobile Always in control and never let these bitches know you Even though I'm gettin' high, a thug nigga gettin' by Catchin' bitches, spittin' lies, I'm gettin' mine | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 02:35 AM |
| 3 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAThere's layers here that I don't understand. So you have at least 3 levels of dudes: Orbiter Prospective boyfriend Boyfriend (at which the prospects get demoted to orbiters or dismissed) Is that correct? Is that complete? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 02:29 AM |
| 3 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUASo where did you learn this strategy? Not in the school of hard knocks, since you haven't fucked around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 02:27 AM |
| 6 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAIt's not clear if any of these points become inactive at certain points. I figured it kind of went without saying. Since male and female sexual strategies are adversarial and since this is an explicit defense against TRP/PUA then the end goal here has to be a sparkly ring and a floofy dress. Else, just let alphas hit on you and take your pick and take some dick. Not difficult. Then your relationship is emotionally an exclusive relationship. You're being a huge asshole by dating other men, and an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 02:24 AM |
| 6 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUACool. Do you have a promiscuous past? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 02:19 AM |
| 1 | All Pills what is your advice to avoid being a side guy/side bitch?I really think this comes down to whether or not you "get it." Right. My making it clear I have options is something like this: Plate: zzz do you wanna come over Saturday night? Me: Sorry, I have something planned. That's making it clear I have options and she's replaceable. RP doesn't do a good job of encouraging moral behavior in this regard. RP doesn't care about moral behavior for two reasons. One is that it's irrelevant to the SMP. Your niceness or morality isn't gonna get some chick wet fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 02:11 AM |
| 2 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUACorrect, it's a spectrum. Maybe a better way of putting it is a dad versus cad filter. Even "alphas" want to settle down and start a family, eventually. So I take it that the dudes you're looking to husband up were previously promiscuous men? How do you feel about that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 02:00 AM |
| 2 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAOK, so just two instances of this working? How long does your oribter->boyfriend process take? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 01:52 AM |
| 5 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUANo one who respects himself or herself would stay in a relationship like that. If you commit (with or without sex), you deserve the same thing out of your partner. This stage isn't a relationship, it's a screening process for a relationship. Figure what, 2 months absolute maximum for 4 or 5 dates, end game being a committed relationship? Lookit the example I gave above. She's dangling the beta bait in front of dude. Either he bites and locks her down, in which case Chad gets tossed, or he balks,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 01:41 AM |
| 4 | Does The Red Pill set up sock puppet accounts of 'women 's help conform its theory?Once you hit a SMV where you can both Get laid more or less on demand Get laid by chicks that are attractive enough for you It gets a lot better. Talkin out my neck because I don't have anxiety disorder but still, it gets better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 01:35 AM |
| 12 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAI think that a lot of men overestimate the sex drive of a woman. Feeback bias maybe. Women with higher sex drive are more likely to fuck and thus more likely to be the women that TRP keeps around long enough to fuck. Edit to add: I believe the sex drive differential. One of my hookups that declined to get plated said it had been a long time (I gathered >1 year) since she'd had sex, and it was very good for her besides. But she didn't stick around for seconds because she didn't want to be a plate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 01:33 AM |
| 10 | Does The Red Pill set up sock puppet accounts of 'women 's help conform its theory?I am approaching the stage of the red pill where I become a misogynist. Let it happen. Go play some Snoop Dogg - Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks. Wallow in it. Hit those weights hard, eat protein, listen to angry music. Eventually you'll come up for air and come to an acceptance of women as they are. It'll be anticlimactic. Then go put that song on again and think of the second meaning of "bitches ain't shit": it's no big deal that women are how they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 01:20 AM |
| 12 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAso you can emulate that. Good point! Tactically it doesn't matter, strategically it does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 01:02 AM |
| 7 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUARemember they aren't looking for natural alphas as much as they're looking for a mix of alpha/beta. There's a spectrum and they're trying to dial in on a sweet spot. Chad Thundercock isn't going to commit to anyone, not when there's new strange on the market every day. That is, sex should come first and then you make it clear that if it is to continue, there must be none else. More than that, these rules are exclusivity before sex. Not sex then ask for exclusivity. They want to get the man hooke… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 01:01 AM |
| 14 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAso they think that if the guy doesn't want to commit to them, they must not want commitment at all. Yeah, but from an individual's perspective, there's no difference. If a woman doesn't want to have sex with you, she might as well be a fuckin' dyke. The fact that she'll give up the ass for Chad Thundercock isn't really a consolation to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:56 AM |
| 2 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAAs long as I have your attention, what do you think about the list? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:53 AM |
| 4 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAI'm honestly interested in her feedback on how it has worked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUARule 1 is definitely bux-oriented. But yeah, this list will ensure you get commitment before you give up sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:51 AM |
| 8 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUA2 and 9 are contradictory. You can't both be exclusive and have several options in the pipeline. She can demand exclusivity before sex and still be dating other guys. She can even go get some on the side, as long as the chumps don't know. 3 is hypocrisy So what? General question, what benefits do men get for following your rules? None. These rules are for her benefit not for theirs. It won't work...don't see it as necessary...Men (of all kinds) will be turned off by your behavior That, you'll no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:50 AM |
| 1 | All Pills what is your advice to avoid being a side guy/side bitch?I guess I do? I am lost on the point you're attempting to make? Having options and making it clear that you have options isn't necessarily going to inspire gut wrenching insecurity. There is though... There's an entire marketplace of self improvement, fitness, romantic advice outside TRP Which the overwhelming majority of TRP'ers have tried and failed with, before hitting us up. There's a reason for that. You're forgetting how small a community this is, there are literally millions of men having… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:43 AM |
| 10 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAMight lead to an extreme dry spell. Could take up to 3 months to find the right guy. LOL, that is an extreme dry spell for a reasonable looking chick. Of course she can always go out for some side action away from her normal area, if she really needs it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:40 AM |
| 11 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAIt isn't just money, it's commitment too. As far as not being open about it she's not open about it for the same reason you don't talk about TRP in real life. It's gauche. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:32 AM |
| 3 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUANo guy does that. Some men do commit to women though, even before having sex. Not marriage but commitment. I'm inclined to take this chick at her word, unless/until her story starts to unravel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:31 AM |
| 2 | What about love?You trade the Disney fantasy for the porn fantasy and it isn't a bad trade. Exactly. I'm fucking several women, in fact one is coming over tonight and I've got another lined up for tomorrow. They're all 4s and one's a 5, but being the Chad Thundercock of 4s is far better than being the devoted and browbeaten husband of a 2 or being an incel. | /r/askTRP | 09/08/15 12:30 AM |
| 1 | All Pills what is your advice to avoid being a side guy/side bitch?But if we're talking RP advice like "make it clear you have options and she is replaceable" Having something to do on Saturday night is a way of making this clear. Having a calendar with other women's names and times/places is a way of making this clear. You fail to see the subtleties. I think a lot of what RP teaches encourages an adversarial dynamic in romantic relationships. In many ways, male and female sexual strategies are adversarial. The good stuff in TRP (set boundaries, work out, succe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:28 AM |
| 5 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAI strongly suspect that male analysis of womens' dating advice falls prey to similar pitfalls as womens' analysis of TRP - Of course that could never work, only an idiot would fall for that... I'm taking OP at her word - this is advice that more or less works for her stated goal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:22 AM |
| 9 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAPoints 11, 12, and 13 are all self improvement - at least as far as increasing attractiveness to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:15 AM |
| 9 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAI wouldn't be so quick to assume that. Look at point 5, this filters for guys who are quick to invest emotionally. So she says Guitars, I really like you but sometimes you aren't available when I need to talk. Chad took me to the concert and we had a really good time. He tried to kiss me but I'm not that kind of girl. He is nice though. I think there's a fair chance that dude doubles down on commitment in order to lock out the competition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:14 AM |
| 6 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAOK, so you're saying that these guys are all attractive enough for her to sleep with but she keeps herself in check until they commit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:11 AM |
| 3 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUACool. Can you expand on something though? When you say that this has led to many a successful relationship, what do you mean? You and your GFs are all single ("interested" in LTRs). Who has it worked for/how? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:09 AM |
| 8 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAI don't read that at all. This looks more like a beta bucks filter list. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:07 AM |
| 3 | Female strategic response to TRP & PUAUh, OK. I don't know how this is a "strategic response to TRP/PUA", especially since red pillers are about 0.0% of the population, but I guess this would plausibly more or less separate bucks from fucks. What does that redpillwomen subreddit think of this list? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/15 12:02 AM |
| 2 | All Pills what is your advice to avoid being a side guy/side bitch?Doesn't change my opinion that the rules are wrong. I'll submit that the rules work better for these men, than how these men were operating before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 11:55 PM |
| 5 | All Pills what is your advice to avoid being a side guy/side bitch?not picking up on warning signs It's this one - at least in my pre-RP days it was. Think on what you just said: RP seems to be formal rules formed to help people that don't just GET IT. I could nitpick that but it's more right than wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Are Patriarchy and TheRedPill Enemies?There are degrees. Nobody's talking about Mormon fundamentalists, they're talking about strict monogamy. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/08/15 10:13 PM |
| 3 | It's unfair that feminists have demonized genuinely nice guys into entitled assholesCome on back when you have these "cringe" subreddits making fun of Chris Brown. He beat the fuck out of a HB10 and she came crawling back to him - not "cringeworthy", apparently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 10:12 PM |
| 2 | What about love?My impression is that TRP is very appealing to "nerdy/beta" guys who feel like they've been fed a lie of what being a man means. Certainly no one else cares to help these men. A jacked up douchebag. Who, you will note, is far more sexually attractive than a beta nerd. Though I guess that along the way they will learn something valuable about themselves and their way of interacting with women. Indeed. | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 10:04 PM |
| 1 | It's unfair that feminists have demonized genuinely nice guys into entitled assholesThe reason for the skin crawling is that they are unattractive men showing sexual interest. A drunk bum passed out in jail doesn't have any concern for his dignity or well being yet he isn't "creepy". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 10:01 PM |
| 2 | It's unfair that feminists have demonized genuinely nice guys into entitled assholesEverybody makes fun of the simp who takes care of the big fat single mother and raises her children out of sexual desperation because he has no dignity. Only TRP makes fun of Beta Bucks. Mainstream society applauds it. E: EDIT: Heck, sometimes people will make their fun of guys for sleeping with fat girls even if she's not a single mother for the same reason. Please point out the subreddits dedicated to making fun of dudes that fuck fat chicks. Please further point out the people making justific… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 09:58 PM |
| 1 | It's unfair that feminists have demonized genuinely nice guys into entitled assholesYou put pussy above your dignity, well-being, and sanity then you wonder why women call you creepy. A man debasing himself is a panty drier. That's why women say it's creepy. "Creep" means "unattractive man who showed sexual interest in me" - nothing more, nothing less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 09:54 PM |
| 3 | LJBF or shit testYour reply: "K" Nothing more. If there's anything there the hamster will spin up to warp speed. | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 09:51 PM |
| 1 | It's unfair that feminists have demonized genuinely nice guys into entitled assholesHaving no dignity and making a fool of yourself is what makes you a target of ridicule. These "cringeworthy" men only make fools of themselves because of their abject sexual failure. If a man acts like a clown and gets laid, nobody will mock him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 09:44 PM |
| 5 | It's unfair that feminists have demonized genuinely nice guys into entitled assholesYou can imagine a man who successfully lies to bed women who also has a lack of boundaries and self-respect. Yet such a person wouldn't be "cringeworthy". Think about a man who attracts and abuses women - not "cringeworthy". Sexual failure is what makes men the target of ridicule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 09:14 PM |
| 3 | What about love?They do not truly lead to happiness They lead to less unhappiness. Imagine being fantastically rich - you won't necessarily be happy, you'll in fact have a new set of problems. But you'll be better off than if you were flat broke. Likewise TRP. For instance I'm fucking 4 different women at the moment. Does that make me "happy"? Not really, as you say it's superficial. But I'm far less unhappy than when I was an incel chump. | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 09:09 PM |
| 2 | It's unfair that feminists have demonized genuinely nice guys into entitled assholesThere are NiceGuysTM in real life who pretend to be nice to try to sleep with women. These guys are indeed cringeworthy because of their lack of boundaries and self-respect. And most importantly they're cringeworthy because they fail. A guy who pretends to something in order to successfully sleep with women isn't going to be featured on one of those cringebullying subreddits. Sexually unsuccessful men are a consistent target of ridicule from feminists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 09:03 PM |
| 3 | It's unfair that feminists have demonized genuinely nice guys into entitled assholesIsn't that better than being a manipulative asshole fucking every girl that moves and breaking hearts after hearts? Oh wait- being NICE IS MANIPULATIVE. I forgot. Women are repulsed by weak men and are insulted when weak men show sexual interest in them. That's what's behind the vitriol and hatred towards men who try to use niceness as a sexual strategy. I don't want to associate with people who think being nice is actually being an asshole. That's the hamster talking, dude. They can't admit, ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 08:56 PM |
| 1 | LJBF or shit test"Ask out" - not so much. More like "Come with me to <place> at <time>" and escalate there. If she declines, next. | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 08:31 PM |
| 2 | Are Patriarchy and TheRedPill Enemies?Eh, I think it's more nuanced than that. I think that a number of the people here that talk about patriarchy do long for a culture where they could marry, have children, and be secure in such a relationship. Think is that we don't live in that culture and that culture isn't going to be coming around any time soon. Right now it looks like we're on the express train to don't-need-no-man-ville with the throttle wired down. So we make the best of the situation that we're in - no cohabitation, no kid… | /r/TheRedPill | 08/08/15 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Girl didn't seem to respond well to my Red Pill actions?/u/SexistFlyingPig nailed it, OP isn't hot enough for the asshole game he's spitting. Asshole game is too much when you aren't hot enough for the level of assholishness. | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 08:08 PM |
| 3 | LJBF or shit testMy guess is on trying to convert you to orbiter status, but there's only one way to find out, and that's to escalate sexually and see what happens. Do NOT throw any "relationship" talk at her again. Offering your commitment before you get sex is definite beta territory. If she brings it up then you better have a line prepared. Something like, you want to take it as it comes/just see what happens, some shit like that, then continue to escalate. | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 08:06 PM |
| 6 | 4chan on why feminism is antiwomanresponsibility of consent That's just a code phrase meaning "make sure she doesn't regret it afterwards". The best way to avoid a false rape accusation is to ensure that she has toe curling orgasms and that her reputation isn't damaged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 07:58 PM |
| 3 | Men, does the recent thread encourage you to open up emotionally?negative emotions like sadness, guilt, depression Not quite. Those aren't negative emotions, those are weak emotions. A display of controlled anger, for instance, is fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 07:53 PM |
| 2 | What about love?Maybe I'm not completely read-up on what this thing is really about. It's quite likely. Of course there's a ton of links on the main TRP sidebar and of course nobody ever reads them, they just have "preconceptions" that come from... places. Try this on for size: https://theredarchive.xyz/archive/3318 | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 07:16 PM |
| 1 | What about love?It seems to me that you are saying that the teachings for TRP are not for everybody If you're a natural, why would you need TRP? | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 07:06 PM |
| 1 | No hope within this societal paradigm?I'm totally content with going mgtow If you were totally content with MGTOW you wouldn't be asking the questions you're asking. a mutual relationship without mind games and cheating can't occur from what your saying No, that's what you're hearing, because what I'm saying is even worse from your perspective. What I'm saying is that you need to get out of the state you're in and that to get out of that state you need to do some things that you don't want to do, like develop game and go through the… | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 07:05 PM |
| 2 | What about love?It just seems that a lot of TRPers don't pick up on this important lesson. Caritas is not to be asked for from just anyone. A woman that a man chooses for a wife ought to be able to deliver it when needed and a man who takes on the responsibility of a wife ought to know how precious of a gift it is. The overwhelming majority of men who read and post to TRP aren't ready for that responsibility, or they don't desire it. They may have chosen poorly of a wife in their pre-TRP days or they may not wa… | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 06:49 PM |
| 2 | No hope within this societal paradigm?... i want that experience for the two options that I mentioned ... You're setting yourself up for a spectacular failure by putting the idea of a relationship (and by proxy, some woman) up on a pedestal. My experience of pedestalization of a relationship and a woman and my experience of many miserable years of maintaining it tell me that you need to not do that. That's not what you want to hear, you want to hear some shit about how some bitch is going to fix all your problems and love you and yo… | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 06:40 PM |
| 2 | What's your opinion on how staggeringly unequal the contributions of sexes are to society?Another way of stating it is her contribution to computer software is as as important as the Difference Engine's contribution to computer hardware. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 06:32 PM |
| 2 | What's your opinion on how staggeringly unequal the contributions of sexes are to society?Lovelace's work was an effective dead end. You might as well say "Do you use a GPS? Thank the South Pointing Chariot". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 06:31 PM |
| 12 | Men, does the recent thread encourage you to open up emotionally?Seeming to be vulnerable and being vulnerable aren't the same thing. Sharing something that you'd normally keep private seems to be vulnerable. Remember that this is all about a woman's feelings. She's got some mutually exclusive desires - the desire for closeness with a man and the desire for a strong and masculine man. This means that you can't be weak in front of her without risking her perception of your masculinity. So you toss her a bone of vulnerability without exposing your weakness to h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 06:25 PM |
| 2 | No hope within this societal paradigm?I'm unsure if I should continue mgtow to avoid vomiting literally or if I should put my efforts into cultivating an LTR I propose a third option. Get your body right (lift), and go spin some plates. Date around, fuck some women. You'll need to develop some rudimentary game to get that far, and the experience will provide you some perspective on those other two options. | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 06:21 PM |
| 2 | What about love?There's an awful lot wrong in this post. Rather than pick that apart point by point, I'll give you some of the best reading material on love: But when we talk of Love, we use that one English word to mean several different emotions (and neurological states).... | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 06:18 PM |
| 6 | Men, does the recent thread encourage you to open up emotionally?You can seem "vulnerable" if you expose something that doesn't have an emotional hold on you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 06:10 PM |
| 5 | If an Indian guy in the United States wanted to date and hook up with attractive white women regularly, could it be done? What would it take?Dear Lord. What do you need to bang blonde white chicks? Looks, money, status, game. You have shit for Game. Fix that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 06:06 PM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on how staggeringly unequal the contributions of sexes are to society?What's your opinion on how staggeringly unequal the contributions of sexes are to society? Doesn't matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 05:42 PM |
| 3 | Theory: Why the CC might reduce a woman's ability to pair bondIt's really hard to find an attractive and providing guy. Alpha Bucks, in TRP parlance, is the ideal for women. But as you say, Alpha Bucks is rare, they tend to get snatched off the market as soon as they appear. So most women pursue the dualistic mating strategy of Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks - fucking hot dudes in an effort to snag commitment, then settling for the less attractive dude with provider characteristics once they've failed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Didn't know how to escalate to sexDiCarlo Escalation Ladder. | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 05:14 PM |
| 2 | Didn't know how to escalate to sexHow does she seem ready for anal? Here's my basic script. I have a pretty average sized cock, those who are well endowed might have to make adjustments. Preparation: trim your fingernails and file them smooth. Yes, this means buying an emery board from the drug store. No that won't turn you gay. Test your nails on the inside of your lip or cheek - if it feels sharp or rough go file that shit down. You will need water based lube handy, right next to the condoms. Astroglide or equivalent. Not some… | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 05:11 PM |
| 24 | Girl didn't seem to respond well to my Red Pill actions?she kept saying no Don't chase, replace. | /r/askTRP | 08/08/15 04:25 PM |
| 28 | Men, does the recent thread encourage you to open up emotionally?There was nothing new in that thread for me. The takeaway points are: Women will judge a man mercilessly if they see him as weak. They will be repulsed by him. They don't know what's weak until they see/hear/feel it, and then it's too late. No undo. Women want to feel like they're supportive of their man, and as in like many other areas, their feelings are more important than reality. Therefore: a man can never honestly "open up" to a woman that he is in a sexual relationship with. If he wants t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 04:16 PM |
| 1 | TRP and the naturalistic fallacywhat most people do reflects social mores/morality (which is what we are discussing). Most people aren't homosexuals or Jews. Would you brand those people as "deviants"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 02:47 AM |
| 10 | Is TRP generally considered to have racist subtext?Is there any truth to it? TRP doesn't shy away from politically incorrect talk and so as a result will tolerate a lot of things in the comments that most subreddits would banhammer. Race-based commentary is not only tolerated but encouraged, when it's useful to the community. For instance if you're Indian or Asian you're going to have to work harder at your game than if you're white. Chicks of different ethnic backgrounds can be gamed differently, etc. As always consider the source - perhaps the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 02:40 AM |
| 0 | 4chan on why feminism is antiwomanFeminism is anti-women's equality because of the pervasive and perpetual victimhood. Whether that's actually anti-woman is another question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 02:33 AM |
| 1 | Do you think TRP will end up significantly diluted or altered as a result of the ever increasing rate of influx of subscribers?People come scurrying to their keyboards for advice on how to handle a failing marriage or how to over analyze what a "plate" said to them. If these people could deal with relationships successfully on their own, of course they wouldn't be reading TRP. You might as well be making fun of fat people at the gym. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 01:14 AM |
| 0 | The /r/Niceguys sub is as sexist and mean spirited, if not more, than /r/TheRedPillThe Nice Guys can't HELP it though- like TRP says, they don't know any better. Like TRP also says, women have an instinctive revulsion to weak men. Thus that subreddit. You could view the standard blue pill/be nice line regarding sexual attraction as a massive shit test - the nice guy types have swallowed the line and as a result epically failed the shit test. The Chads of the world never listened to it and so passed with flying colors. ... turned the word "Nice Guy" into a negative term. And th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/15 12:42 AM |
| 3 | TRP and the naturalistic fallacymost people don't have sex with multiple partners concurrently. What does "most" people have to do with right and wrong? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 01:19 PM |
| 2 | My problem with The Red Pill sub-redditThat's a sort of orthodoxy which undoubtedly impacts the information that's shared. It's PUA-lite. Yeah, fuck those red pillers for making sure their ideas work in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 01:16 PM |
| 5 | (CMV?) Red Pill stuff would be more accurate - and sound less extremist/stupid - if it ditched the AWALT crapRed Pill men love their women like they love their dogs. Nah, dogs are loyal - it's bred into their nature. Mark Twain had a quote about men and dogs you might want to read. Non-Red Pill men actually respect women as fellow human beings. Meanwhile Red Pill men do - what, exactly? You imply without saying, for reasons that are undoubtedly rotten. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 01:13 PM |
| 5 | (CMV?) Red Pill stuff would be more accurate - and sound less extremist/stupid - if it ditched the AWALT crapThat sounds like a distinction without a difference. It also sounds non-falsifiable Good luck conducting a statistically valid set of repeatable experiments on human beings' sex lives. That's why I say TRP theory is pseudo-science. Doesn't matter, because this isn't some academic concern. Red pill ideas work and get you laid. So why furnish advice which is guaranteed to attract women that TRP men ultimately don't want? You're pretty God damned presumptive to be telling me what I want. I'll tell … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 01:11 PM |
| 9 | TRP and the naturalistic fallacyHowever, what happens if your morality goes against the morality of a society? You get ostracized by this society which can have a huge psychological impact on you, much bigger than the gains of mating success. That's why you don't talk about red pill ideas in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 01:05 PM |
| 2 | TRP and the naturalistic fallacyWhat's wrong with casually dating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Is it hypocritical when women prefer tall men because they make them feel safe?It really is an art form how you have said something reasonable, but in a way that makes you sound like a douchbag. Hey Mods, I thought that personal attacks and snark were banned? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/15 12:59 PM |
| 6 | Is it hypocritical when women prefer tall men because they make them feel safe?when men demand traditionally feminine women, it is criticized. The solution isn't to petulantly demand such women, it's to quietly select for such women. Don't let the neon haired shrews and harpies online fool you, there are plenty of women out there who want to be feminine for a man. A quick test is to praise her efforts in that direction (hair/makeup/dress/jewelry). Watch how she responds and if she continues/increases the behavior for you. Let the angry feminist types rant online and browbe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/15 06:06 AM |
| 4 | If women are wrong for only finding 20% of men attractive, then why is it "just nature" for men to only find 20% (or less) of women attractive?Would you commit to 50-80% of women? I'd commit to about 0% of women: too much risk, too little reward. There's a saying, "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?" Plenty of women handing out free milk. I'd fuck the vast majority of women younger than 60 once and I'd sign up for repeat fucks with somewhere north of 50% of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/15 02:12 AM |
| 1 | As an Indian dude am I supposed to accept second place?I too will be somebody's silver medal. Or you could get yourself into reasonable shape, develop reasonable game, and go spin some plates. I'm below average height, below average education, was skinny/fat, had shit tier awkward fucker game. Grant you I'm not fucking 8s and 9s but I'm leveling up, and the 4s I'm on right now are very eager to please. Maybe being the Chad of 4s is like a bronze medal in the Special Olympics, but it's light years ahead of being some broad's second choice of a husban… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/15 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers: why don't you take women seriously?I can see the comment containing the reasoning from here. You can find it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 01:06 PM |
| 1 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillUnattractive = SUV (driver). Thanks, no reason to take you seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 12:32 AM |
| 1 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillYour definition of an unattractive man Unattractive = low SMV. I'm talking reality, son. My brother pushed my ex-boyfriend (who showed up at my house, unwelcomed) down the stairs. Good thing for him that the ex-BF didn't speed dial the cops, and follow that with a civil suit. If someone shows up on your doorstep that you don't want there, you close the door and call the cops. Escalating the situation to physical violence is a recipe for legal trouble. Your brother sounds like a man with anger co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers: why don't you take women seriously?Don't know where "over half" comes from but the actual number doesn't matter. What matters is that a sufficient number of women behave in accordance with red pill theories. Based on my personal experience and the experience of other men, that number is well more than half - it's overwhelming enough to be the go-to option. Again, our individual and collective experience is much more credible than your opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 05:27 PM |
| 1 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillwho cares Nobody cares about unattractive men. Guess that makes women all serial killers, right - unless there's a double standard at hand here. One day you'll piss off the wrong guy, I suspect. It might not be the girl's boyfriend, it might be her father or her brother. Give us an update on when this happens! (if you survive.) Your vicarious revenge fantasies are pretty telling. The part about a man doing the dirty work for you is hilarious. "Why even bother arguing with those (expletive)s?" Be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 01:59 AM |
| 1 | Chinese men and women discuss love/marriage/money - 100% redpillI'm not talking about marriage and family, although if I was I'd be challenging the idea that stuffing kids into day care by strangers is good. I'm talking about finding fuck buddies. Even there, ambition and status and success in men is attractive to women. BMI is attractive to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 01:53 AM |
| 5 | Chinese men and women discuss love/marriage/money - 100% redpillI don't really see how it's women's problem that men have low standards. Men and women have different standards. That's a primary lesson TRP teaches. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 01:22 AM |
| 2 | Redpillers: why don't you take women seriously?What women say (the ones that blab on this subreddit) is far less relevant than what women do (the ones who let me fuck them in the ass in real life). In real life, red pill ideas work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 12:59 AM |
| 5 | Redpillers: why don't you take women seriously?why don't you acknowledge our experiences and ignore our views Your experiences and views as you relate them are irrelevant to red pill ideas. I'd rather watch what women do, than listen to what women say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 11:01 PM |
| 1 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillyet you say you do. More like, I'll accept your premise because it's irrelevant. which other guys are they screwing over with their games? Who cares? The sexual marketplace isn't a zero sum game but there are winners and losers. My first imperative is to be on the winning side, which for me is a sufficient supply of low commitment sex from good enough women. There's an inherent selfishness there that offends me. I'm unconcerned with your offense. What is TRP doing to otherwise nice guys who don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 06:44 PM |
| 1 | What do men have to offer in a relationship?What are you, some career girl upset to see girls like me with rich guys who get everything paid for? My theory is that it's an implicit snub of their femininity - a low blow, hence the emotional response. The fact that a woman can snag a rich man strongly implies she has a certain something, something more than the ability to open her legs. Many of the angry feminist types don't have that certain something. The male equivalent would be someone who goes to http://hotchickswithdouchebags.com/ to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 01:25 AM |
| 1 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillYou're still spouting misogynist stuff. It's misogynist stuff that happens to work well for its purpose. I don't need to hang around the sub for years to know I dislike it. And there we go - that's the difference in investment that was talked about upthread. I use red pill ideas to make my life better and get the things that I want. Your investment, on the other hand, is equivalent to your indignation. misogyny is a deal-breaker for me. Good thing that I don't talk about red pill stuff in real l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 12:23 AM |
| 1 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillReally? I'm the one who's wilfully ignorant? You understand why there are girl sports leagues, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 12:16 AM |
| 3 | [Discussion] Rollo on 'Just get It': Women resent that a man would need any explanation of what being Alpha is, and most of the "where have all the good men gone?" discussion is about their contempt for betas, who are basically deficient anomalies in a chain of masculine excellence.RPers still have no clue what their place is. Doesn't matter. I can fake it well enough now to fuck women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 12:09 AM |
| 6 | [Discussion] Rollo on 'Just get It': Women resent that a man would need any explanation of what being Alpha is, and most of the "where have all the good men gone?" discussion is about their contempt for betas, who are basically deficient anomalies in a chain of masculine excellence.consent is sexy One of my plates told me, after the first time we fucked, that it was hot that I did all the things she liked without her having to tell me. No man who's ever heard those words is going to listen to any of that explicit consent bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 12:08 AM |
| 2 | Women Call Men Insecure/Jealous/Etc Over Count Yet Encourage Each Other to Follow Their Own Feelings in Every Relationship Discussionso aren't you putting a condition on your LTR that you yourself are not willing to meet? What LTR? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 12:24 PM |
| 4 | Women Call Men Insecure/Jealous/Etc Over Count Yet Encourage Each Other to Follow Their Own Feelings in Every Relationship DiscussionThe problem many on BP have with TRP is the hypocrisy that it's okay for men and in fact, encouraged, but not okay for women. It's not OK for a woman you're thinking could be your wife and the mother to your children. For a woman you're thinking could take your dick in her guts tonight, it's irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/15 01:42 AM |
| 5 | Does /r/TheRedPill sub give the ideology a bad name?I don't think people get how much the rest of the male forums laugh at the shit on TRP. "Male forums" like those askmen or oney subreddits? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 12:35 PM |
| 2 | Does /r/TheRedPill sub give the ideology a bad name?The problem with The Red Pill has always been that it takes "data" from the worst subset of women out there I can tell you from intimate personal experience that the women I fuck aren't the worst subset of women out there, not by a long shot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 12:26 PM |
| 4 | Does /r/TheRedPill sub give the ideology a bad name?Do you feel the sub is giving the ideology a bad name ? I hope so. I don't want people hanging around who need their feelings coddled and their delicate sensibilities fluffed, I want people hanging around who can help me unfuck my life and fuck some chicks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 12:17 PM |
| 1 | Is spinning plates the male equivalent of having a lot of friendzoned guys around?It's your problem in the sense that the only free out for you is if she doesn't care about being your slutty fling. You don't think this is the case so you've got a problem, which is sized proportionally to your emotional investment in her. It isn't your problem in the sense that you need to educate her on the realities of the sexual marketplace. Borrowing a phrase from our blue pill friends, everybody should know all this stuff already. Right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 03:45 AM |
| 2 | Is spinning plates the male equivalent of having a lot of friendzoned guys around?What have i got wrong here, in your opinion? You're worried about what she might think about the relationship, that she hasn't vocalized. Remember all that red pill shit about how men and women can't be friends? This is another twist on it. The realities of the sexual marketplace are such that male and female sexual strategy are at odds. Sex vs. commitment, plates vs. provisioning, alpha fucks vs. beta bucks. You've got a good deal - for you. You're worried that it isn't a good deal for her, she… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 03:33 AM |
| 3 | Is spinning plates the male equivalent of having a lot of friendzoned guys around?I care because she is genuinely a friend So you've caught feelings. OK, now you need to decide what to do about it if/when she attempts to define the relationship to being exclusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 03:17 AM |
| 1 | Does TRP and PUA make it seem much more difficult than it is?It's that they take the innocuous message of "Working on yourself will help you attract more women" and add "...because women are hypergamous sluts who are incapable of logic, loyalty and unconditional love and are essentially overgrown teenagers." The two messages aren't mutually exclusive. One of them offends the fuck out of you, but that doesn't mean that it's not true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 03:15 AM |
| 4 | Does TRP and PUA make it seem much more difficult than it is?their parents for example, could they not teach them the ways of TRP without the misogyny? Evidently: not. Else, those men wouldn't have bothered with TRP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 03:09 AM |
| 2 | Is spinning plates the male equivalent of having a lot of friendzoned guys around?Is spinning plates the male equivalent of having a lot of friendzoned guys around? Sure. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of commitment. Women have beta orbiters who give her commitment and other relationship benefits in exchange for the hope of sex. Men spin plates who freely fuck in exchange for the hope of commitment. Am I supposed to take her word at face value Why do you care? Who's the one catching feelings here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 03:03 AM |
| 10 | Anyone 40+ and single? What is dating like?society judges men you are 40+ and single. Not if you're divorced. your SMV is going to take a big hit in your 40s due to your age. Just the opposite for me. I'm in better shape, with more money, and better game, than at any time in my past. Have a job, don't be fat, don't show male pattern baldness, and you're well ahead of many of your peers at 40. Also, what kind of girls are going for you? 4s. Enthusiastic and sexually available 4s that fuck with minimal effort. But hey, I've got a promising… | /r/askTRP | 26/07/15 11:14 PM |
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