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These are called false equivalencies.
/r/MensRights20/03/17 10:57 PM
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Implicit in this reasoning is that schools are biased towards girls by their female teachers who actively (if possibly unconsciously) work to hold boys back. Hang your heads in shame, women teachers and female students, you with your wicked, hard-working, sitting-still ways, you are ruining our energetic, high-spirited boys. Yeah but men are definitely all colluding together to police some sort of patriarchy, right?
/r/MensRights17/08/16 02:34 PM
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It's kind of funny that a good faith post concerned with free speech would result in a ban. It seems like r/mensrights has a stronger commitment against censorship, even though I'm quite sure trolls can still get banned for trolling here too much.
/r/MensRights05/08/16 04:01 PM
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Why is it relevant to men's rights? This seems more appropriate for r/feminism post, topic wise.
/r/MensRights31/07/16 06:13 PM
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Okay come on now, this ain't about men's rights...
/r/MensRights30/07/16 02:16 AM
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The men's rights movement has lost its direction. It seems to have forgotten that the only reason we exist is because feminism exists. We are not here to help women get equality in society, we are here to ensure women don't become more equal than us, and we are failing miserably. facepalm That's not what the MRM should be about, honestly. And I don't get the sense that the majority of MRAs would agree with you.
/r/MensRights26/06/16 02:27 PM
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Like, why is ‘Old McDonald’ a guy? Why couldn’t it be a lesbian farmer?” My gut reaction when I hit this line was "satire" LOL
/r/MensRights22/06/16 01:23 AM
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If their positions were reversed - he was slapping her around and then she beat the shit out of him and attacked a witness after they'd apparently reconciled - I doubt he'd be charged, too. Really? I'd bet he'd be charged still. Either way I agree he can't make a claim of self defense. That was assault.
/r/MensRights10/06/16 04:03 PM
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Such a weird ruling, I've never heard of such a thing. Especially bizarre if he's been cleared of the original crime.
/r/MensRights09/06/16 03:38 PM
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“While we do sometimes fight about finances, at the end of the day, I’m really glad to be the primary breadwinner. I like being in control, calling the shots and deciding what color the dining room should be painted. Would I have that control if I were married to a corporate attorney? I don’t think so.” lol
/r/MensRights07/06/16 04:26 PM
1

Yes. Still, after the Bush Jr. years, I think it's an important concern.
/r/MensRights19/05/16 06:54 PM
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On the one hand - Trump's lack of experience and the enormous concerns with what he'll do in foreign policy makes him as president really scary. On the other hand, Hilary has a track record of just doing whatever the democrats think is popular at the time - she is the establishment - and she's a fraud each time she plays the woman card to distance herself from the establishment to voters. I'm not happy with the decision, needless to say.
/r/MensRights19/05/16 02:11 PM
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If this guy actually said that, then why doesn't he volunteer to go to prison on a rape charge? Surely he'd be willing to, he believes it's justice.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 10:42 PM
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Imagine if an already male dominated field made a billboard with a scantily clad woman to promote an "all male" facility or service. Who really thinks that would be considered acceptable by the media/general public?
/r/MensRights11/05/16 02:57 PM
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Ok fine, marriage is better for the economy. But on a personal level, marriage is a risk financially... And more importantly - why the hell should money be my motivation for marriage? So shallow, PragerU.
/r/MensRights09/05/16 10:10 PM
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These statistics are almost certainly well off the mark...
/r/MensRights17/04/16 12:22 AM
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but he failed to listen when I pointed out that it was also men who committed most of the crimes against men and women alike. And this makes his point irrelevant, why?
/r/MensRights23/03/16 04:03 AM
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Same here. The Sharon Osbourne / The Talk incident was the thing that pushed me over the edge on gender issues. With an empathy gap like that, it's the one thing that gets me especially inflamed, it's absolutely disgraceful yet you never hear about it in gender studies academia or in the mainstream media.
/r/MensRights22/03/16 01:13 AM
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This was my reaction as well. It's a horrible, cruel thing to say about someone. That they are at best, worth nothing.
/r/MensRights18/03/16 06:33 PM
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Men - who largely run the criminal justice system - should know, as Orange Is The New Black writer Piper Kerman revealed, that women get handed harsher sentences than men for minor crimes What??? There has been plenty of research that has demonstrated a huge sentencing gap that discriminates against men.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 04:33 AM
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"'Hostile sexism' is defined by endorsing derogatory beliefs about women and the idea that 'women seek to gain power by getting control over men.' Isn't that what they're kind of implying men are doing to women? And also, is it not just the truth that there are women who do exactly this in some cases?
/r/MensRights05/03/16 02:56 PM
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You talk as if men have an obligation to protect women from violent immigrants. I didn't say anything that implied that. Just that what happened to them was bad. And I agree that it would be good if they too combated misandry. But I also don't cast a shadow over them personally because of things they may or may not have done. Edit: I would think you're pretty much a rad-fem in reverse if your going to fight misandry with misogyny. And having no sympathy for some women because some different wome…
/r/MensRights06/02/16 02:02 AM
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Zero sympathy for those who suffer, if they have actively engaged in protesting or campaigning against that which they now demand. I'm sure there were women who were attacked who weren't misandrists though. Probably a pretty good percentage of them. But I'd be sympathetic even to those who are misandrists too, just on a human level.
/r/MensRights05/02/16 11:56 PM
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The judge said the sentence was "tempered" by her family situation (ie she's a single mother). In my personal opinion that shouldn't be taken into account for serious crimes like child sex abuse, because it does a huge disservice to the victim. I think it also would do a disservice to the woman's children to be left in custody with a parent that would do something like that.
/r/MensRights17/01/16 03:23 AM
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Yeah, that’s true on aggregate. White's are advantaged in our society as a group. No arguments there. Not really a major issue, but I don’t doubt there’s overrepresentation. Doesn’t really matter unless you’ve already been taught another method or it is demonstrably better for some people to learn other methods. Teaching several different ways to do the same thing is a time sink and could confuse people. Non-point, because white boys can’t really do that either. There are lots of Asian males in …
/r/MensRights31/12/15 04:06 PM
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Well best of luck to you and all of your children! Don't have any of my own yet at nearly 27, hey maybe someday. But it's cool that you can recognize this stuff. Personally, I come from a very liberal, feminist-y community and didn't hear people openly discuss anti-male imbalances in society more than maybe once in a blue moon. So it took me a while to learn the full extent of some of the statistics and how wide spread these problems can be.
/r/MensRights27/12/15 02:14 AM
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You automatically assume that HE is the bad guy? That HE did worse during their marriage? What if SHE was the abusive one? And these notes are just the continuation of HER abuse? It doesn't matter, WE don't know! We know what HER actions were, and they were WRONG. She is the one who has admitted to feeling humiliated, as she rightfully should. Well I'm glad you can recognize this! hahah. It's a good point, but I'm afraid it will fall onto deaf ears into these particular women. But it's still pre…
/r/MensRights27/12/15 01:48 AM
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lmao wow biiiiig loss right there...
/r/MensRights29/10/15 03:39 AM
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I couldn't believe Big Red was really included in this lol. I realize she's probably on her best behavior, but given her status as a fan favorite around here I'd be curious to see what comes of that.
/r/MensRights13/10/15 01:57 AM
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How the hell was he the one in trouble with that age difference? 15 is a minor.
/r/MensRights26/09/15 02:00 AM
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He got 12 months for the hair cut: That's still a lot more, obviously.
/r/MensRights26/09/15 01:56 AM
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It seems quite obvious to me that it's because if the man is being rejected for that reason than they would take it better because it's not anything about them personally, rather just a product of circumstances that they're being rejected.
/r/MensRights06/09/15 03:37 PM
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Is it the age old "imagine if the genders were reversed!!!" bullshit or what? Imagine if the genders were reversed is actually a pretty solid test to understand a situation. I don't understand y'all who are afraid to do that.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 02:00 PM
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I think all in all he's about as good a candidate as there is, but it is discouraging that he's propagating the flawed pay gap statistics.
/r/MensRights29/08/15 03:36 PM
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Whereas Ashley Madison’s active users were apparently mostly male, in reality 23.2 percent of men and 19.2 percent of women had “cheated” during their current relationship. That's a statistic that reflects poorly on humanity, all around.
/r/MensRights29/08/15 03:25 PM
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who among us hasn't had a daydream of going on a rampage and wiping out a third of the male population, AMIRITE? Totally doesn't hate men, AMIRITE /s
/r/MensRights19/08/15 02:42 PM
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What you have to remember about "attempts" is that it's not the number of people that have attempted that are counted, but the number of individual incidents. An actual suicide can only be successfully completed once, where as one person can rack up 20 suicide attempts and it would count the same as if 20 people attempted suicide once. It's not all that telling of a statistic.
/r/MensRights09/08/15 02:07 PM
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I'm so sick of people thinking feminists think THIS is okay ... And I highly doubt I'm the only women who thinks this way Feminist isn't the same as women, just pointing that out. Having said that, I don't think all or even most feminists would specifically support this. The only problematic thing is that many generally seem to want to pretend like this kind of thing never really happens or is too rare to bother talking about. Which is pretty flawed imo.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 12:27 PM
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If a woman grabbed a guy's ass (does happen, has happened to me personally) and spit in his face when he told her she couldn't do that... And he beat her up... Would anyone really try to paint him as a hero? Or even slightly justified? Even if he wasn't a trained fighter.
/r/MensRights29/07/15 03:28 PM
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What also makes pre-adulthood something new is its radical reversal of the sexual hierarchy. Among pre-adults, women are the first sex. They graduate from college in greater numbers (among Americans ages 25 to 34, 34% of women now have a bachelor's degree but just 27% of men), and they have higher GPAs. As most professors tell it, they also have more confidence and drive. These strengths carry women through their 20s, when they are more likely than men to be in grad school and making strides in …
/r/MensRights22/07/15 02:28 PM
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You see, when a woman wears this t-shirt -- and, by the way, and I am being 100% honest here: I just saw a woman wearing this t-shirt two hours ago -- she is not just making a harmless little boast that she is eye-candy and the sort of hot young thing that makes men's eyes glitter with the desire to win her. No, when a woman wears this t-shirt, she is saying Rape me, and she's also telling men Rape as many other people as you can, and she's telling rape victims Shut up with your stupid rape-sham…
/r/MensRights22/07/15 03:50 AM
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Ok, here's the deal (as I see it, anyways). The MRM can attract reactionary white men who are sick of being told that they have such an advantage over everyone else. Hostility towards bringing race into the equation is because these people are frustrated. Take for example the way modern, popular feminism looks at things. They like to talk about "intersectionality". The disadvantages that women, minorities, homosexual, or trans people face etc. But if you really look at the way they talk about it…
/r/MensRights22/07/15 01:44 AM
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So married men should be allowed to have sex with other women too? Or is it only ok when women do it because something something patriarchy?
/r/MensRights17/07/15 04:55 PM
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This is insanity.
/r/MensRights16/07/15 03:07 PM
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I've heard it said that there are physical differences to the tear ducts, when it comes to the crying bit.
/r/MensRights16/07/15 02:59 PM
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Madness. How many women would have to be expelled for disparaging their exes as well? This is 1984 shit.
/r/MensRights16/07/15 02:57 PM
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'"Gendered approaches to education are extremely problematic," They need to teach men not to rape tho, right?
/r/MensRights07/07/15 04:38 PM
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Troll face strikes again.
/r/MensRights05/07/15 03:30 PM
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I don't think whipping posts for wife beaters 100 years ago should be something that men's rights focuses it's attention on today, but it does counter the revisionist history that it was acceptable and allowed for men to beat women in that era. It's useful to keep in mind in the face of false claims, but that's all really.
/r/MensRights01/07/15 04:57 PM
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“Person A and Person B are on a date and walking down the street. Person A, feeling romantically and sexually attracted, timidly reaches out to hold B’s hand and feels a thrill as their hands touch. Person B does nothing, but six months later files a criminal complaint. Person A is guilty of ‘Criminal Sexual Contact’ under proposed Section 213.6(3)(a).” Do they really want this to become the law of the land? The courts could be filled with unimportant complaints of hand holding, arm/shoulder tou…
/r/MensRights28/06/15 04:11 PM
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Ok is "kill all men" representative of feminism then? Mgtow (I'm not one) don't have to believe any of that stuff.
/r/MensRights27/06/15 02:48 AM
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I certainly do. Personally I believe it's at the heart of almost all of the problems specific to men. There's plenty about feminism I actually agree with. Some feminists do acknowledge that the empathy gap is a real problem, but the majority either ignore it altogether, and some deny it. If it became a significant priority for feminism to tackle and took that really seriously I might consider calling myself one again.
/r/MensRights27/06/15 01:08 AM
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I'll bite. I'm not really a MRA, but I'm closer to one than I am to what I think of as a feminist. Do you believe that there is an empathy gap that disadvantages males or not?
/r/MensRights26/06/15 10:47 PM
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Notice how flippant the first line of the article is too.
/r/MensRights26/06/15 10:44 PM
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Believing NO women can love, NO women care about anything other than sleeping with rich guys, believing women are a "waste of time" as if they aren't people who have other functions in life than just servicing your dick. Come on. Stop. Straw man much? Really glad to know where your priorities stand, considering the current gay marriage post is so low. Glad to know gay and bisexual and trans men mean so little to you, but being in a hate group like MGTOW is a fucking priority. I don't see why one…
/r/MensRights26/06/15 10:37 PM
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I think small kids are really endearing, but unfortunately I'm pretty guarded around them for obvious reasons.
/r/MensRights19/06/15 06:18 PM
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like he would be the one deciding whether it would be a ltr here. :D umm, kinda takes 2 to tango gnomesayin?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 04:22 AM
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Nobody forced anyone to LTR a promiscuous woman btw. I agree with your comment, but believe it or not this last bit actually would be controversial to some. I got pulled into a big to-do on the subreddit AMR (a group which I dislike) about this very subject. Many of them seem to believe that it is a form of slut shaming and a horrendous act to reject a woman based on her sexual history. My own feeling on the matter of course, is that shaming a woman who likes to have sex a lot does nobody any go…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 04:12 AM
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Wow. That's amazing. Even Cenk, who is a feminist, can't believe how far some of these radicals go.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 07:07 PM
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Damn... I totally & completely agree with this. And yes it is quite troubling.
/r/MensRights14/06/15 09:59 PM
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There's this sort of myth that only men get angry from being rejected. Women often think this because they've often never had to reject women, and some men believe it because they've never rejected a woman before (like incels for example). More men are expected to approach/initiate anyway. But anyone who has rejected several women knows they're not necessarily going to handle it any better than a man. It's natural to be hurt by rejection no matter who you are, it's not the "male entitlement" pro…
/r/MensRights14/06/15 08:30 PM
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Not sure why this is being downvoted. It's probably because it's being posed as white men vs minority men. Many feel that men's rights isn't really about race per se, it's just about gender. Which doesn't invalidate the issue, of course.
/r/MensRights12/06/15 11:32 PM
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Obvious troll attempt is too obvious.
/r/MensRights09/06/15 02:02 PM
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The men who got nothing until their 30 are marrying women who have done the same. Unfortunately that's not quite how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/15 09:30 PM
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Yeah I agree with you, success is a highly personal concept best suited for an individual's own determination. Old fashioned gender attitudes really should have no place in determining that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 03:47 PM
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A certain amount of clingy-ness if you actually like someone and have LTR hopes can be a good thing. The IRL men that complain about it are usually either in a relationship with controlling woman or the guy doesn't really have LTR aspirations with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 01:58 PM
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A man's success is measured with his career and possessions. He may be married or not. Unmarried successful man can be highly praised. But people will wonder what's wrong with successful unmarried woman. I think that's a really unhealthy measure of success as well personally. I've long been confused why materialistic things are supposed to be any better as a type of success than relationships. I mean, personally (and I say this as a man in my mid-late 20s) if I could choose to know for certain t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 01:47 PM
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Haha, very nice writing style
/r/MensRights05/06/15 03:21 AM
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So a woman getting stabbed in the genitals is a rape charge but a man getting stabbed wouldn't be? I guess that figures lol. I mean, I agree that mutilating someone's genitals can be worse than rape, but it'd be nice to have some consistency right? We can only dream.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 02:00 PM
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A 25-year-old woman has been charged with rape and acts intended to maim, disfigure or disable. Wait, she did that too?
/r/MensRights04/06/15 02:30 AM
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Yes because they were falsifying information on federal documents. Well consistency is 85% of what I hope for in gender topic discussions, so I'm ok with your position. Not that I specifically agree or disagree wit it, but I respect it.
/r/MensRights03/06/15 04:37 PM
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Were the women who misrepresented their gender to vote before women were allowed to, doing something wrong too?
/r/MensRights03/06/15 04:29 PM
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But I'm concerned with the whole "schools and colleges are against boys" thing. Let's face it... Now that females have equal opportunities maybe we're just a little sore that on average they're a tad brighter than us. Research into IQs hasn't shown that, but even if that was true - or if women are just naturally better in school for some other collections of factors - I think everyone would have to accept that it was possible for men to have advantages mentally too.
/r/MensRights02/06/15 02:45 PM
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Ok so by that logic other things that will probably have to be on the chopping block as "deception" (in a consistent world) in addition to lying about your name or income, as any of these could potentially be deal breakers in which someone wouldn't have consented if they'd known: Trans-person not disclosing that they were not born the gender they identify as now. Anyone not disclosing that they've had plastic surgery. Anyone lying about the number of sexual partners they've had in the past. Lyin…
/r/MensRights26/05/15 08:06 PM
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Just chill with it. It ain't normal to obsess over gender politics, just keep a level head about the subjects and keep yourself well informed.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 04:20 AM
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Not to mention all men who would most likely jump into the scenario to "defend" the woman who is attacking the man. You're likely in for criminal charges and an ass kicking if you attempt to defend yourself from a woman attacking you. The truth is, in a situation like the OP described, where you've tried to remove yourself and it doesn't work... You're all out of options. You pretty much have to take whatever she dishes out and hope she can't punch for shit. Luckily most men won't find themselve…
/r/MensRights26/05/15 04:17 AM
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Who the fuck cares how much "pressure" this puts her under? The arrogance of that statement given what actions she's done. I just hope the guy was able to get the proper medial treatment and is alright.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 01:46 AM
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I just don't think he needed to knock her out cold. He's a professional athlete, in the NFL no less, she's an unarmed woman. I have trouble believing she posed that much of a threat to him, that he'd need to knock her unconscious.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 11:20 PM
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Look self defense is one thing but jeez, the guy went obviously too far. Let's not make him out like a hero. Yes there are anti-male doublestandards and yes there is domestic abuse against men that doesn't get mentioned in the media. But down vote me to hell, I ain't standing behind Ray Rice. I think it's B.S. the way Hope Solo and Brittney Griner etc get minimized but that doesn't mean I think that Ray Rice's situation should be minimized just because the others are, they all deserve repercussi…
/r/MensRights21/05/15 09:52 PM
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Jezebel is incredible at double standards, I'll give them that.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 09:47 PM
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I think the concept of virginity was created by women who thought their approval was so important that if a man didn't have female approval that he was worthless. No I don't actually think this. I just think that the premise that virginity is a female only topic of concern is whacked.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 09:43 PM
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They also support arresting the people who put up the posters because it is "slander." If calling someone a liar is slander, what the hell is calling them a rapist!? That's a good point. The only way that you'd be allowed to reconcile that you can say one and not the other is if you knew that he was definitely guilty. Not sure how anyone commenting on there would know that.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 02:20 AM
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Oh hi, that guy's alt account.
/r/MensRights20/05/15 02:32 PM
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I understand clearly what you are "telling me" so please don't attempt to speak at me like some idiot. I think that was the appropriate assumption to make given that you were making up things that I said. That's all I have to say to you. Respond if you want, I'm done with this one K bye.
/r/MensRights20/05/15 12:50 PM
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Sidebar: this may be the first time I've ever heard someone argue to keep bigotry involved. What are you even talking about? Nobody said anything about keeping bigotry, stop making things up. Does the post not compare men's rights to white power or are we reading different things? Regardless of what you focus on in the post would it not be beneficial to this movement and politically savvy to make a post like this impossible to connect to the movement? To think otherwise would be short sighted. W…
/r/MensRights20/05/15 03:44 AM
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Men's Rights needs to clear itself of those that would fulfill the accusations of this FB post. Um... No? The post isn't going after the sexists among MRAs so much as it is saying "men are advantaged so they don't need rights." Which is a bullshit statement.
/r/MensRights20/05/15 01:15 AM
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You're missing the point. It does have to do with men's rights when men's rights opponents blame men for slut shaming, say that it's part of patriarchy, then say patriarchy is why men's rights is not needed. Look, I think MRAs really need to re-evaluate their tactics too, but to say that it has nothing to do with men's rights just because it doesn't have anything directly to do with men's rights isn't quite accurate either.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 06:24 PM
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Men as a group often get painted as the ones predominantly guilty of "slut-shaming" or at least are kind of represented as the group that's responsible for it being a cultural norm. This experiment would tend to suggest the reverse. Not exactly a huge men's rights issue but it is certianly of some note, as the whole idea that men already dictate a patriarchal culture in their own favor is one of the reasons detractors of the men's rights movement give as a reason why men's rights is not needed.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 05:11 PM
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“The evidence favors the view that women have worked to stifle each other’s sexuality because sex is a limited resource that women use to negotiate with men, and scarcity gives women an advantage” That's interesting. I wonder then if "hook up culture" has overall been a net negative in terms of women generally getting what they want out of relationships.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 02:32 PM
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This can't be real, can it? She sounds terrible!
/r/MensRights16/05/15 02:58 PM
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This is a point which I think is lost on the gen pop. Everyone talks about men's high expectations, it seems like paradox but women tend to be way more selective.
/r/MensRights15/05/15 12:18 PM
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Dad bod is pretty much a joke, everyone knows the majority of heterosexual women would prefer a more in shape guy than that. Attraction isn't something that you can negotiate. You aren't going to be able to convince someone to be into a certain body type if they aren't. If overweight women want greater numbers of highly desirable men to find them attractive, I can certainly understand that since it's a perfectly natural desire, but it just is what it is. The best evidence for this is that homose…
/r/MensRights15/05/15 01:56 AM
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Yeah I'm sure a similar effect would be observed as well. But the difference is, watch the reactions to a frustrated man saying "women suck" vs the reactions to a frustrated woman saying "men suck". The former will be blasted, the latter will probably be met with a lot of sympathy.
/r/MensRights15/05/15 12:22 AM
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Many women would be up in arms if topless women became a new norm. Mark my words. Especially older women. It's funny how men are simultaneously being viewed as sexual oppressors who can't bear to see a woman's bare chest and at the next breath you'll hear about how men are all sex obsessed perverts.
/r/MensRights14/05/15 02:33 AM
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If someone decides to get drunk and consents to sex then the sex was consensual. Obviously someone has to be sentient enough to give proper consent. If they're too drunk to do that (like passed out) it's always going to be assault.
/r/MensRights14/05/15 02:28 AM
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Here's one for you: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2144002
/r/MensRights14/05/15 01:44 AM
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Yep. It was disgusting. And the way they were all laughing, the whole studio and panel. I'll tell you this. As much as feminists like to point out that men are as a group responsible for committing more crime overall than women are... You'd never see a large audience of men laughing at a woman for being drugged, tied up, then sexually mutilated beyond repair. There's definitely an empathy gap which is hurting males, and if there was ever anything "toxic" about masculinity (and even debatable) it…
/r/MensRights13/05/15 08:50 PM
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Just over 6'3". No complaints.
/r/MensRights13/05/15 08:34 PM
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I really don't think that's what it's about at it's core, even if you can find some instances where it lends itself in that direction. I think it's core "capital f" feminism is largely just about giving women as much power as they possibly can.
/r/MensRights13/05/15 03:06 AM
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Ok I agree that the trying to police who is attracted to who is backwards and pathetic but the part about punching a girl in the gut was pretty bad of you even if she slapped you, I'm not on board with that bit.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 06:33 PM
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What a cop out. If this woman had singled out say, "Jews" as a problem population on campus I doubt the university would be taking such a laissez faire approach. Yes, the double standards are strong here. Funny thing is she actually is anti-Isreal, so maybe that's incoming at some point lol.
/r/MensRights09/05/15 02:38 PM
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It has nothing to do with hormones. No. Couldn't possibly be that. /s
/r/MensRights09/05/15 02:35 PM
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Of course in the case where the woman is the rapist, they often let her maintain custody despite what she did. It floors me.
/r/MensRights08/05/15 09:29 PM
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Where's the huge hashtag campaign about this one?
/r/MensRights07/05/15 04:32 PM
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Sure, from time to time I see misogynistic or at least poorly worded stuff here. But there's also a lot of positivity around talking about different issues that effect men that is just hard to find IRL. Men's rights isn't about misogyny. Just because there can be rare instances of such doesn't mean it's a hotbed of misogyny like he seems to think, nor does it erase the good aspects of it. And what of the blatant anti-male corners of reddit? How come they get a pass?
/r/MensRights07/05/15 03:35 AM
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I don't think the majority of women really prefer dad-bods to start with, it's more just an internet craze. But even if they did, it's still just another example of judging a man based on his appearance.
/r/MensRights06/05/15 05:29 PM
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There's an important message to be sent: Women are not just victims of domestic violence, but also can be perpetrators. And in cases where the parties are of the same sex, we can't be any less diligent about demanding accountability from those involved. Oh.
/r/MensRights06/05/15 05:18 PM
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This never really gets talked about much. Anecdotally, the lead singer of the band Korn was reportedly molested by a woman.
/r/MensRights06/05/15 04:50 PM
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I mean, it's not like there are going to be many articles about smaller businesses that just have a few female workers on staff and they get along okay but aren't really doing anything that impressive as a business. Like there are numerous daycares across America with all female staffs and many of them are fine. Then again, those are just examples of like 3 women working together - the more you have the more likely there are going to be problems. There was also some sort of study that "determine…
/r/MensRights04/05/15 01:05 AM
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It doesn't have to be an either or. I don't think we should be celebrating their failure as proof that women can't work together or something because that's not always true, although it is very refreshing to just see that someone realized the "men are the cause of all of our problems" routine is tired and wrong.
/r/MensRights03/05/15 02:35 PM
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It is outrages! They will condone, reward and protect the deceitful. Two people walk away free and clear - The biological mother and the biological father. They will use the dodge .. in the best interest of the child. The wifey / mommie slanted corrupt court system will always destroy the husband, take his wallet - reward the wife and the (real) biological father. I agree with all that all the way. It's disgusting that men have to pay child support when they get cheated on. I believe women / wiv…
/r/MensRights30/04/15 10:18 PM
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Unfortunately, while “equal pay for equal work” makes complete sense, it has for the most part fallen on deaf ears since Dickens was roaming the streets of sooty London, pen in hand. Equal work. This means not comparing men's average salaries to women's but rather comparing men's and women's salaries for the exact same position. And controlling for variables like age, location, and hours worked.
/r/MensRights30/04/15 03:39 AM
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Far greater than 1% of children suffer cause their fathers are assholes. I mean, as much as I do agree to the extent that mothers drinking during pregnancy is not really a men's right issue... This part is still completely irrelevant.
/r/MensRights27/04/15 02:52 PM
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I've heard of penis size being compared to weight for women. It's like, even when it's about realistically the ideal, there's always sort of a nagging sense that if it was a little bit bigger (or a few less pounds for women) that they'd be better. And that psychologically they worry about it being a big deal to their potential partners (and in plenty of cases it can be). The main difference being that it's harder to do anything about penis size than it is weight. Of course, another difference is…
/r/MensRights26/04/15 04:11 PM
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As kind of a very slightly democratic leaning independent, I'm afraid that the hardcore Dems will be way more excited about her than those of us in the middle & subsequently put forth a weak candidate (like her).
/r/MensRights24/04/15 04:21 PM
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This is misogynistic.
/r/MensRights24/04/15 01:10 AM
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They also cite it as evidence of oppression.
/r/MensRights21/04/15 09:06 PM
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The 30% acceptance rate is interesting. Because it both refutes the idea that men are all sex crazed maniacs but it also is likely significantly higher than if the experiment was to be done with the genders reversed.
/r/MensRights20/04/15 07:15 PM
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Male disposability.
/r/MensRights19/04/15 08:46 PM
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Well I don't know how anyone can know she's a feminist, but it does put any "normal" "manspreading" to shame.
/r/MensRights16/04/15 01:49 AM
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Just a guess but I think some men pretend to open up by opening up a bit, but really holding back and staying very much in control of how much they actually show. I've definitely done that myself, I bet others have too. It's a conscious decision because you don't know what your SO's reaction is going to be. btw sorry about your user name... That doesn't sound like a fun thing.
/r/MensRights15/04/15 02:42 AM
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or fire enough male scientists to make it even. Maybe starting with Bill Nye? He should volunteer if he really believes in it right?
/r/MensRights13/04/15 04:10 AM
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Good on her, really solid and thorough takedown of her critics all in under 4 minutes.
/r/MensRights11/04/15 02:39 PM
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Maybe it's that on a primal, unconscious level, what feels cruel and unusual punishment for a woman just feels less so for a man. Even if you're offended by this theory of why an old practice is now a "shocking" news story, you must concede it fits. Why else has castration of men not been a blip on the radar, but offering a woman the option of sterilization is suddenly a travesty? Damn. They really went there. Objectively analyzing an anti-male double standard. I wonder if there will be any back…
/r/MensRights09/04/15 11:45 PM
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It's incredible when you really think about it, that it's called "about me" and that's what he chooses to write. This line of thinking is her identity, or at least a major part of it.
/r/MensRights08/04/15 06:01 PM
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85% of rape accusations are false Sorry but that's tinfoil hat talk. Nobody can possibly know the actual rate of false accusations. Anything you read is at best an educated guess. I'd wager the number is really a lot larger than the 2% figure feminists commonly throw out but I highly doubt it's anywhere near 85%. But I can't claim to know exactly the percentage, and no one really can.
/r/MensRights07/04/15 03:59 AM
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First of all, we are NOT equal to men, we are far superior Boom - there it is.
/r/MensRights07/04/15 01:06 AM
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I've read it several times, it's extremely easy to find sources. I just googled "women make 8% more" and several articles came up such as these: http://content.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2015274,00.html http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/apr/09/genevieve-wood/what-pay-gap-young-women-out-earn-men-cities-gop-p/ http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704421104575463790770831192 http://abcnews.go.com/WN/reverse-gender-gap-study-young-childless-women-earn/story?id=1…
/r/MensRights04/04/15 03:32 PM
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(For childless people) women in their 20s in the U.S. earn something like 8% more than men in their age bracket.
/r/MensRights04/04/15 02:39 AM
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Lolwut back at ya. You're straw-manning me here, I didn't say anything about Cosby being guilty or innocent.
/r/MensRights03/04/15 03:33 PM
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Not saying there is (aside from just one persons word against another) just pointing out the difference. I don't know why people have to jump to conclusions, I'm not really calling either one of them guilty or innocent. I'm just saying that this kid is in a pretty different situation than they are/were.
/r/MensRights03/04/15 03:28 PM
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Humbly disagree with both comparisons. With Cosby or Jackson there's no convincing evidence of a group collaborating to screw them over. This is worse, as there is good evidence that they lied and did so vindictively to screw this guys life over. And also with this being some random guy instead of a celebrity, it's obvious they weren't going after cash or anything... They just want to ruin this guy's life and their willing to lie to do it.
/r/MensRights03/04/15 01:43 PM
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Surgical castration? Good lord. What is this the, dark ages?
/r/MensRights02/04/15 01:26 AM
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Exactly how I feel about it as well. It's far from the best of ritualistic customs, obviously. Sometimes it seems like MRAs get mad when I'm not outraged over being cut. Edit: I'm not trying to justify the practice of circumcision in any way. I just don't pine over the loss of my foreskin really, it's an afterthought at most.
/r/MensRights01/04/15 07:31 PM
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That's a really bad, unfortunate thing that happened to her, but I don't know what the point of the article was. It seems like it's just rehashing an incident that was purely accidental happened 5 years ago? Nor do I understand the part about calling out the boyfriend.
/r/MensRights01/04/15 05:12 AM
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It really is the top 10% of men getting all the pussy the rest get little to none and then women complain the men are only after the sex when the majority of the 90% ignored by the women just want companionship but are not worthy. This is a very broad generalization for sure, but as long as we're generalizing I will say that I agree that there is likely some truth to this, however I don't think it's a female only phenomenon. Men are likely to ignore unattractive women by and large as well. It's …
/r/MensRights31/03/15 03:42 AM
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but not saying the same thing to women, an awful lot of women seem to feel entitled to it. Sure, I agree that this message doesn't get directed to women as much, and you can see it play out when they complain about "where have all the real men gone" and stuff like that. Some think they're not only entitled to a relationship, but entitled to one with an excellent man. I was just saying that I don't think it's really something that objectively is primarily an issue of rights or any sort of legisla…
/r/MensRights29/03/15 03:49 PM
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I agree to some extent that the dynamics in dating and relationships in the last 50 years probably have not improved if measured objectively despite all of the social progress. I do question how relevant stuff like this is to men's rights; of course this isn't really about rights as nobody has a right to a relationship. Having said that, it's probably good for society when most citizens to be in a committed relationship because the average person's mental health and motivation to work will most …
/r/MensRights29/03/15 03:05 PM
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This misinterpretation of feminism is not the only problem with the MRA talking points, however. Many MRAs overlook the fact that women are not the ones who structurally imposed the various "discriminations" they fight against, discriminations like the male-only military draft. Men created these sanctions and laws, because the laws of America were created by men, who have historically ruled the government and the courts. On the contrary, the author has displayed a massive ignorance to what the M…
/r/MensRights28/03/15 03:10 PM
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So when she heard last fall that a student group had organized a debate about campus sexual assault between Jessica Valenti, the founder of feministing.com, and Wendy McElroy, a libertarian, and that Ms. McElroy was likely to criticize the term “rape culture,” Ms. Byron was alarmed. “Bringing in a speaker like that could serve to invalidate people’s experiences,” she told me. It could be “damaging.” I don't understand how saying we don't live in a "rape culture" (a term that Rainn has even criti…
/r/MensRights22/03/15 01:43 PM
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This story came out like 6 weeks ago or something. I don't think at the time that it was verified to be true, and I hope it isn't, but if it is than it's absolutely horrific. His life is in many ways, completely ruined.
/r/MensRights21/03/15 07:29 PM
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They're not even making fun of feminism. They're really making fun of men's rights. That feminist just doesn't understand satire.
/r/MensRights21/03/15 03:08 PM
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Feel free to ignore this comment because it's probably unrealistic thing to ask about, but I'd love to see a prominent feminist try to explain away the Sharon Osbourne on The Talk incident. There's a journalist named Quinn Norton for example, who has specifically claimed that "men are raised to hate women" and I've heard other feminists echo the same - if this is something Kimmel has said he believes too than the question may be appropriate. The fact is a panel of women and a whole audience full…
/r/MensRights21/03/15 03:03 PM
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So guys -- why do some guys insist that I'm not gay because they want to get into my pants? Is there something I'm missing? The feminist movement will tell me "it's because men think they're entitled to my body" but I'm not quite sure that's true. Maybe enough guys don't really understand lesbianism? I've seen women who claimed they were lesbians go on to date men before. I believe that you, yourself will never do that as you seem quite certain of your orientation. Most lesbians are probably muc…
/r/MensRights20/03/15 11:57 PM
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This is a fucking outrage. Seriously - no jail time?
/r/MensRights17/03/15 03:04 PM
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What a joke. Some mega celebrity who's out of touch with reality, has no clue. Gay rights are further along than women's?
/r/MensRights17/03/15 04:21 AM
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This says the ratio of people who were currently without homes and sought shelter nation wide was 61/39 male: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_States#Who_are_the_homeless of course I wouldn't be surprised if the actual homeless ratio was even a little bit more male than that, as there may be a higher percentage of men who won't even seek shelter (much the same way men are known to not go to the doctors). I'm not sure if Michigan is different, these were national averages.
/r/MensRights16/03/15 02:27 PM
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This does support some of my personal experience. I had at least a couple teachers that were highly discriminatory based on gender. Against male students, that it. There may have been lesser biases from other teachers too, but I can remember a couple that stuck out as particularly egregious.
/r/MensRights15/03/15 09:04 PM
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"if you believe in equality you're a feminist!" It's funny how misguided that becomes in this instance.
/r/MensRights14/03/15 04:21 AM
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I'll never get over that clip. It's absolutely astounding to me that she's still allowed to be on television.
/r/MensRights13/03/15 07:44 PM
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That's part of the problem, there's very little or even no middle ground in some cases. It's hard to not fall into the categories of "benevolent sexist" without resorting to being viewed as a "hostile sexist".
/r/MensRights11/03/15 01:46 PM
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Just because men's issues exist doesn't mean that men can't appreciate the women in our lives who deserve it.
/r/MensRights07/03/15 03:50 PM
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YOU decide to shame and degrade someone who you otherwise would consider having a relationship with if not for their number of sexual partners, then YOU will be labelled by those who watch you do it. So now declining to be in a relationship with someone is shaming and degrading them?
/r/MensRights06/03/15 04:45 PM
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Oh that would matter, if it was true (which I absolutely cannot begin to imagine it is).
/r/MensRights06/03/15 04:38 PM
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What they want is for women to be allowed to do whatever they hell they want That's basically it, yeah.
/r/MensRights06/03/15 02:52 AM
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Wow, that's terrible. I think it goes without saying that if the kid lives he's going to have pretty major psychological trauma along with the physical.
/r/MensRights02/03/15 05:00 AM
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Ok, I agree false allegations sometimes take up a weirdly large amount of space in the MRM discourse. However - they do happen and they do have devastating effects. Men have literally been killed over false accusations. And the false allegation rate is most probably not as rare as the 2 - 5% figure, although the true number is unknowable. Why would anyone lie about being raped? You'd be surprised how trivial some reasons are. A wife divorcing her husband looking for leverage in court. A girlfrie…
/r/MensRights01/03/15 04:51 AM
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any more than women can use Elliot Rogers actions as proof that men hate women and wish them harm. Actually that did happen with the Roger killings. It was commonly cited as proof widespread attitude that men supposedly had about women.
/r/MensRights18/02/15 10:15 PM
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Except in this case, at least according to the men involved, she did join in on the physical violence from the sounds of it.
/r/MensRights18/02/15 10:10 PM
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Dementia is a tough thing, hopefully research can be conducted to improve or prevent it altogether. I don't take offense to the title for this reason, although I do think they could mention that the reason why less men get dementia is that more of them are dead by the time they reach the ages that it's common.
/r/MensRights16/02/15 05:36 PM
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You can't blame men for not wanting you when you're in your 40s and finally ready to marry and have kids. Especially if that man can get a 20 year old, or chose to get married in his 20s or 30s. You focused on you, now you have to face the consequences. It was your choice to go down that road with no regard for what men your age would want in their 40s+. This is so true. If a woman specifically decides to take herself out of the serious dating market until she's 35+, she's going to find herself …
/r/MensRights16/02/15 05:27 PM
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Yeah I think I remember reading that Thailand was the place in the world where that happens the most, for what ever reason.
/r/MensRights10/02/15 03:54 AM
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“Their value is always determined by what they do. In an anti-patriarchal culture males do not have to prove their value and worth. They know from birth that simply being gives them value, the right to be cherished and loved.” It is correct to say that men to have to earn their value through what they do rather than just having it from existing. But I see absolutely no solid evidence that this is the fault of patriarchy.
/r/MensRights09/02/15 07:53 PM
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Especially violence that was that severe and had such implications on a persons life.
/r/MensRights09/02/15 02:25 AM
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The equivalent would probably be amputation of the clitoris + damaging the vagina bad enough that intercourse becomes impossible. And what kind of a sick man would think it was okay to laugh at that story? I wouldn't want anything to do with a dude that thought that was funny.
/r/MensRights09/02/15 01:23 AM
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It's not my theory, I read it somewhere but I don't remember the source. But it's meant to draw a comparison between women's insecurities about weight and men's insecurities about penis size. Like a thin woman might have a nagging sense that she still would look better if she dropped 5 pounds, much like a man with an above average size penis might wish it was just a tad bigger.
/r/MensRights06/02/15 04:17 AM
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I've heard it said that psychologically weight is to women as penis size is to men.
/r/MensRights06/02/15 02:32 AM
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Even guys who want to go for the cliche "Brad Pitt in Fight Club" look. Seemingly not all that muscular, but still is much harder to attain (and maintain) than people seem to realize.
/r/MensRights06/02/15 02:26 AM
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But look how they acted in the video, if the men aren't attractive it will be harassment /s
/r/MensRights05/02/15 10:09 PM
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The future of the environmental movement isn't pale and male. Why not? What does it matter what the people involved in "saving the planet" look like? Just the other day, the National Wildlife Federation announced its new president – a white male "whiz kid". Last month, the Climate Reality Project, founded by Al Gore, replaced its female chief executive with a white man. Last November, the National Parks and Conservation Association replaced its veteran leader with another white male. The Union o…
/r/MensRights04/02/15 03:40 PM
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radical sexual sovereigntist Haven't heard that term before, but as you explained it that makes 2 of us.
/r/MensRights04/02/15 03:47 AM
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I don't think the problem is with them being "slutty" (personally I'm against shaming anyone for their sexual identity, including history). If young women were out fucking tons of guys, there would be a lot more happy guys. Moral judgements about promiscuity aside, sexual history is important to some men. While there's no reason for anyone to judge a woman negatively for being promiscuous, I think it's just as unreasonable to judge a man for not wanting to personally date or marry someone who is…
/r/MensRights04/02/15 03:08 AM
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Disclaimer, I consider myself more egalitarian than specifically MRA, but there was definitely a straw that broke the camels back that got me interested in the MRM. I wasn't really too into gender politics, but I would've considered myself feminist. Then I saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JA4EPRbWhQ and frankly I was shocked. How had I not heard about that? How could that have possibly not been a media-storm bigger than Don Imus times Donald Sterling squared? You would never ever …
/r/MensRights01/02/15 04:14 PM
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Be careful about who you have relationships with, that's all. Unless you're really willing to go full MGTOW. But I'd say the main thing the stories should do is just serve as a reminder in the back of your head to be very mindful of the personality and character of women you'll have relationships with rather than swear them all off.
/r/MensRights31/01/15 08:40 PM
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For the record, I think this author absolutely knocked it out of the park in regards to the issue of male suicide.
/r/MensRights30/01/15 05:02 PM
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This is true. Anyone who tries to offer an alternative explanation rather than "men can't express their feelings because patriarchy" gets shut down. But there's also the whole in-group preference factor that the author touches and I think it is at play with men's issues. There's a pretty large empathy gap where both men and women are generally more concerned with a woman's wellbeing than a man's (unless the man has specifically demonstrated some reason to value him or the woman has specifically …
/r/MensRights30/01/15 05:01 PM
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I'm not going to criticize women for having their preferences. Just don't try to tell me that it's men who have unrealistic standards when women's are demonstrably higher. Yes, some men have unrealistic standards. And some women - apparently even more women - do too.
/r/MensRights30/01/15 04:44 PM
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That is quite a telling info graphic, wow. It shows the deceit involved in the cherry picking graph posted by the OP.
/r/MensRights26/01/15 06:05 PM
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Well doesn't that basically what's done to the MRM whenever feminists talk about it? I mean, you can argue "don't sink to their level" but then they gotta remember the golden rule...
/r/MensRights26/01/15 04:36 AM
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Imagine if a man said that after assaulting a woman.
/r/MensRights25/01/15 08:34 PM
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The irony is that it's in fact much harder to satisfactorily replace a penis. Hopefully medical advances help remedy this in the future.
/r/MensRights25/01/15 08:30 PM
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which seem to define being a man in most of this subreddits eyes I'm sorry if you are genuine, but this sounds like trolling to me.
/r/MensRights25/01/15 12:56 AM
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She really has a point about that video even being contradictory. I liked her sense of humor as well.
/r/MensRights18/01/15 06:31 PM
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Yeah I agree it's quite insulting to women really. Women have plenty going for them; in the vast majority of cases they do not need to resort to being horrible sociopathic people to feel like they have agency. I'd go so far as to say that it's misogynistic.
/r/MensRights17/01/15 05:03 PM
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At a stroke, the one thing that women had going for them has been taken away, the one respect in which they had the last laugh over their husbands and lovers. That's so sad, that this woman thinks that way. The "last laugh"... Somebody's kids not being their own.
/r/MensRights17/01/15 04:37 PM
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Notice that the only "bad" people in her equation, are men. Bad men that abuse women and have a sex life, bad men who feel entitled to women that don't have a sex life.
/r/MensRights17/01/15 04:27 PM
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This is true, but many of the commenters probably don't know that. Their reactions are genuine.
/r/MensRights08/01/15 03:25 AM
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Did this actually happen? I really hope not because this is completely and totally horrible and disgusting. The reason I'm not sure that it happened is that a quick google search didn't return this story from any other sources.
/r/MensRights07/01/15 08:01 PM
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You show me a female that truly believes in equality, I'll show you a lair. Whoa I wouldn't go that far. There are prominent females in the MRM who surely qualify right?
/r/MensRights26/12/14 05:12 PM
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Would the ban only apply to men? Or are women going to be policed in how far they spread their knees apart on public transport too? Where I live in the U.S. I've seen plenty of female "offenders"
/r/MensRights25/12/14 07:14 AM
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I've witnessed women sitting with their knees pretty far apart on the subways as well.
/r/MensRights24/12/14 09:39 PM
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She actually said that the "streets at night" are a "male only space"... WTF?
/r/MensRights22/12/14 07:47 PM
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I'm not sure because I haven't analyzed the statistical methods myself, but I've also heard that one woman who did the mild overdose of sleeping pills 3 times will count as 3 female suicide attempts even though it's the same person attempting each time.
/r/MensRights22/12/14 05:26 PM
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I started paying attention to this subject while riding the subway after I heard about that somewhat creepy blog that people post pictures of male strangers doing this. Honestly, I've seen women do it too. Maybe not quite as often, but 100% have witnessed enough sit like that as well, especially women who are on the bigger side.
/r/MensRights22/12/14 05:22 PM
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Don't forget the education system.
/r/MensRights20/12/14 02:17 PM
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Really? I mean, where I'm from 5'10" is certainly quite tall for a woman but it isn't so tall that most guys become less interested. Personally I've even dated as tall as 6'2" (I'm about 6'3.5").
/r/MensRights18/12/14 08:57 PM
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Certainly there is a class component. But consider a few things… Who makes up the majority of occupational and combat deaths? Is violence against women regarded as worse than violence against men? Has a woman ever been laughed at by a large group of people on national television for being the victim of a horrible sexual mutilation crime? When a woman is found guilty of the same crime as a man, who is typically shown more mercy by the judicial system? Who makes up the majority of the homeless pop…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 10:29 PM
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Yeah I don't watch a lot of TV but sometimes I'll catch a football game on CBS :(
/r/MensRights15/10/14 07:00 PM
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CBS still airs "The Talk"
/r/MensRights15/10/14 02:23 AM
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I was groped by a female student when I was in high school. It was really awkward and unnerving but I would never insult the seriousness of rape as a crime by comparing the two.
/r/MensRights03/10/14 03:53 AM
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lol yeah as if keeping the child with this demented mother is in the best interests of the child, it's amazing some people really are that dumb
/r/MensRights03/10/14 03:50 AM
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This is the sort of thing that I think we should easily be able to band together and reform. I think the average person could see that a woman getting 18 years of being paid by the victim for sperm jacking is ridiculous. The woman in this case should be charged with something rather than awarded money!
/r/MensRights02/10/14 03:11 AM
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In my examples I've put him in the RP position of "ALWAYS get a paternity test because paternity fraud happens ALL THE TIME" (it doesn't) It is reasonably common, though. 3% is not exactly the odds of winning the power ball. It's something that's not just somewhat important, but a huge life altering problem for some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 03:18 AM
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I'm saying things don't change until someone contests it. And it usually takes more than one person. It has to be a community of people contesting it. Look at history, that's just how things work. That's fine. It's debatable but I don't really have a problem with any of that. I'm not really contesting this. No one is saying laughing about heinous things is okay. That is not what I implied and I think you know that. Yes they are. It's the denial that there is even a problem that gets me. It's den…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 08:36 PM
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Same could be said about women 60 years ago. Not enough men and women cared about it. Then a subset of women, not men, started caring. So if a group of men sat around laughing about a man drugging his wife and sexually mutilating her because she wanted a divorce, it would be okay as long as women didn't care about it? I would still find that disgusting, even if no women did. It's not just about how many people are offended. Just because we live in a screwed up society where men's safety is viewe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 08:31 PM
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I can't emphasize this point enough. No one cares for your cause more than you and people similar to you/sharing a similar experience to you. Usually this is true but men care about the well being of women more than men care about men in general. A large portion of men view other men as competitors. Research has demonstrated that on average women have more of a same group preference than men do, this is probably why women usually think that men in power look out for other men's interest than the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:00 PM
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Not enough men or women cared about the Sharon Osbourne incident. You want to know the proper conclusion to draw from that? That society cares less about the suffering of men than they do women. It's called the empathy gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 06:48 PM
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I like how I've never seen anyone "high five" Sharon is supposed to show caring. If a man publicly celebrated the drugging and sexual mutilation of a woman (to the delight of other women) it would be the biggest media circus of the decade, it would make Donald Sterling look small.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 05:05 PM
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No your point is clear in your title. It's an accusation that women are running rampant laughing at the woes of men. But they are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkmanLIAdXI
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 05:02 PM
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Grammar check please?
/r/MensRights11/09/14 12:40 AM
3

Thats a blast from the past.
/r/MensRights01/09/14 04:16 AM
1

I don't really know what there is to say about this though. I can't see the use in trying to police who women are attracted to the way feminists try do to men with regards to a woman's weight, sexual history, age (among adults only of course) etc. And as others have said, there might be other factors that correlate with height (like income, overall marriage rate, etc) that influence the statistics.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 03:59 AM
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You're not entitled to harass someone for something you heard they may have done. It's not okay. That's the end of it. Double standard indeed.
/r/MensRights23/08/14 07:53 PM
4

I'd also counter Put another way: We will stop Dong Watch once there’s a female president, zero wage gap, and Swedish-level paid parental leave; once tampons, birth control, and abortions are all available free and on-demand. With: yeah and we will stop objectifying women when there's zero sentencing gap, gender parity in graduation from all levels of education, and legal paternal surrender becomes a law...
/r/MensRights22/08/14 02:56 PM
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I just hope that the MRM realizes that these kind of brush-offs do not occur out of malice, but ignorance and lack of perspective There's a greater common theme in society called the "empathy gap" which makes men's issues prone to being brushed off. Most people don't empathize with men the same way they do with women. That's why when men get screwed over, more people brush it off. For instance, you'd never have a panel of famous men on a nationally televised talk show, in front of a live male au…
/r/MensRights18/08/14 09:37 PM
2

I agree entirely. This dynamic is at the root of most of the things that disadvantage men in western society today.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 03:44 AM
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How can I hate men and still like men, and even more, have the men (mostly) LIKE that I hate men? Because they see other men as competition and are desperately groveling for you to like them back? Here’s what we do want to kill: the concept of masculinity. Oh... Right then. Moving on.
/r/MensRights11/08/14 03:18 PM
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“The men who get annoyed by misandry jokes are in my experience universally brittle, insecure, humorless weenies with victim complexes” Projection much?
/r/MensRights11/08/14 03:13 PM
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it’s pretty clear that Internet harassment comes from actual human men. Come again? Now only men are internet trolls? http://media2.teenormous.com/items/www.goodguycomics.com/130/media-0f-a20791812b026c02e7492a_m.jpg
/r/MensRights11/08/14 12:57 AM
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The problem I have with this is it implies that men capable of harming women where as the reverse is not possible. It's the same thing as the whole poison m&ms comment, it comes from such a place of moral superiority where women are never "toxic". The other issue is that it reduces women to a non sentient form of life that is acted upon but cannot act. I would think that would piss off feminists, but somehow it doesn't?
/r/MensRights09/08/14 02:54 PM
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We see it on TV: Female characters (even powerful ones, like hospital administrator Dr. Lisa Cuddy on the show House, M.D.) wear low-cut shirts and tight clothing, while their male colleagues dress in normal business attire or loose clothing. It even shows up in our everyday actions, like when we tell girls in schools to dress a certain way to avoid “distracting” their male peers. Do male students really have a monopoly on dressing however they want? If a male student came in wearing the same su…
/r/MensRights05/08/14 11:05 PM
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The gym I used to go to had the womens locker room code locked and the men's not. I always thought it was a bit annoying.
/r/MensRights04/08/14 01:38 AM
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FYI those are all U.S. sources, where as the original survey was from the UK. Therefore it does not necessarily run contrary to what the OP posted even if it's true (I didn't really look at them yet)
/r/MensRights01/08/14 01:51 AM
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It is a sexist statement but it touches on an important truth (whether intentionally or not I cannot say). It's pretty much a mainstream view to think that a woman who has sex with a man is "doing him a favor" and that the whole legitimacy of his manhood depends on having sex. In essence, what if that dependency was stripped away? It would further enable men to behave in their own self interests. Biologically men would still want sex and try to attract women to have sex with, but if a woman's se…
/r/MensRights31/07/14 04:32 PM
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Can you imagine the level of thunder it would bring down if any man in television ever laughed and gleefully joked about a woman getting drugged, tied down, and sexually mutilated by her husband? I think it would be like Donald Sterling x 10.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 02:46 PM
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Yeah there are some misogynistic MRAs, but that doesn't invalidate men's issues any more than the fact that there are feminists who hate men would invalidate women's issues.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 02:16 PM
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If this is true then it definitely sounds illegal to me.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 02:12 PM
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Equality, folks. /s
/r/MensRights21/07/14 02:32 AM
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You do realize that the fact that it's women discussing it in the first picture and men and the second is significant right? That men are always seen as potential threats.
/r/MensRights19/07/14 11:17 AM
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The 99% stat is a real nuisance. Just because of some archaic laws still exist that say it's only rape if it's penetration and because our legal system is harsher on males doesn't mean 99% of rapists are male. And what is this business about 1 in 5 vs 3%? You gotta cite your sources when you throw these figures around.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 01:46 AM
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A straight up admission that the truth doesn't even matter to them. Wow.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 08:30 PM
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but as anyone who’s paying attention knows, all men are capable of rape What the hell does that even mean? Is she saying that women aren't capable of rape? Isn't (practically) anyone "capable" of murder too? And now, the MRA movement comes into play. By hoisting Oberst up as the epitome of a “nice guy,” as the kind of delicate soul who’s not only incapable of rape, but who personifies the tyranny of evil women The idea of evil women really seems impossible to these people doesn't it? They just d…
/r/MensRights17/07/14 02:33 PM
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You seem a bit naive about what motivates feminist. Their goal is to secure as much control over men as possible by painting them as predators who need to be controlled. Nah, believe me, I know that they want to control shit. You'd have to be blind not to see that.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 03:41 PM
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I'm not pro-street harassment, and the guy in the story crossed the line. He wasn't just looking at her, but he was talking about her as he followed her. So he crossed the line, and ventured into the realm of harassment. It's interesting though, in the survey results that 35% of women reported never being victims of street harassment compared to about 4% saying it happens often or daily. While it is obviously a pretty widespread problem if 65% of women have experienced it, 4% being harassed "oft…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 03:03 PM
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I know what you mean. I always thought being a genuinely nice guy would be one of the things a woman would want out of a man. Not necessarily just nice to her, but also nice to people from all walks of life. I've seen feminists (when discussing "friend-zoning") use the term "nice guy" to be shorthand for a guy who seems nice but is only acting that way because he expects sex. As if there's no such thing as a genuinely nice guy and if there was he's basically a sexless fountain of servitude.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 11:31 PM
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I basically agree with the logic here. Interesting though For the record, I’m against the idea of “friend-zoning” being a bad thing. I agree with this too. If a woman is not into a guy she's not into him. I'm surprised these friend-zoned guys aren't able to understand that - would they suddenly become attracted to a woman they weren't attracted to if she was nice to them? No, very doubtful. However, I think it's irritating when said women who "friend-zone" lots of guys get angry at "men" as a gr…
/r/MensRights15/07/14 10:15 PM
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The only guy out of seven staff members. Don't you think there's a reason for that? Women can cause damage in sexual harassment lawsuits but men again embezzle more often. The only person I've ever met that got in trouble for embezzlement was a woman. Just saying. It's not like you need to be a man to do that.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 02:32 PM
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If a man poking a hole in a condom counts as sexual assault because it's getting consent on false pretenses - than a woman taking a condom off and lying about birth control absolutely should as well. Those are every bit as much false pretenses for consent.
/r/MensRights06/07/14 09:40 PM
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“I feel that men might not value college as much as women because they know that no matter what, they’re going to succeed in life,” Alegria said. “They make more money just because they’re men.” Yeah that's why most homeless are men, right? Stupid ass.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 01:57 PM
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haha my first thought as well! Can you imagine if a male professor that mandated checking if female students were shaved there too?
/r/MensRights05/07/14 04:00 AM
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While nondisclosure may be a good idea for avoiding family problems No. The "family problems" are already there in cases of false paternity. Covering up the information is just avoiding the problem. It's beyond stupid and it's irresponsible.
/r/MensRights04/07/14 04:58 PM
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Points 1, 2, and 3 are some of the biggest complaints I have with feminism as a movement. Especially point 1.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 10:45 PM
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Well all the current examples you've named, they're obviously not doing a good enough job.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 03:36 PM
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To treat this like a serious article with claims supported by facts is to give this "article" more credit than it deserves. I'm not trying to knock him, it's just that this is a completely flippant tone. I do however, think he's on to something about the dynamic of feminism in a way. Isn't it interesting that female MRAs are amongst the MRMs most popular figures where as male feminists are often just considered "allies" and take a back seat within feminism?
/r/MensRights01/07/14 02:00 PM
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I don't think the general tone here is agreement. This comic is acting like the main problems males face are trivial things like being called names.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 12:10 AM
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Funny how girls being underrepresented in STEM gets lots of attention but the fact that boys are underrepresented to a greater degree in basically everything else gets none.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 03:28 PM
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How would this discourage actual victims from coming forward? I mean, wouldn't you only be charged with something like this if there was evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that it was specifically fake?
/r/MensRights26/06/14 08:49 PM
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From the article on the "goodmenproject": There is no debate over whether women are better off in the United States today than they were a few generations ago, but we have a long way to go. When it comes to Fortune 500 companies, we only make up five percent of the CEOs. That means there are only 25 of us out of 500. And only 18 percent of congress members are women. Seriously? That's the measure you use to decide how "well off" the women as a group are? It's not the fact that women have more ch…
/r/MensRights26/06/14 01:24 AM
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I agree it would greatly oversimplify the issue. But of course that's what most people in the media did, and what many of the debates over his rampage became. He had some misogynistic views, but in other ways he also attached extreme importance to women and put them on a pedestal. My mentioning him as a "misogynist" had more to do with people thinking he was primarily a misogynist and that those views had something to do with the rampage. But yeah, people's perceptions and reality aren't always …
/r/MensRights24/06/14 12:49 AM
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I'll tell you the thing that opened my eyes to the gender inequalities that disadvantage men. It was Sharon Osbourne and The Talk incident. A panel of female celebrities laughing and joking about a horrible, disgusting crime against a man to the delight of a female audience. I could understand if the guy who they were laughing at was a bad person - if he was a child molester or something I would've given them a pass on laughing at his life being ruined - but no, he was just a normal man. That's …
/r/MensRights23/06/14 09:33 PM
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If you include prisons that's probably true. If you're just talking about outside of prison, no, it's often women. The CDC said about 80% of males made to penetrate had a female abuser.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 08:58 PM
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I agree that this is a problem, it's disgusting that some of them make that stupid distinction. The whole "made to penetrate is different than real rape" thing is so ridiculous that I can't believe it even warrants conversation, but yeah some of them actually defend that shit.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 04:03 AM
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Not to mention that some of those statements are highly questionable in the first place. But even if they were right, wouldn't it follow that based on their reaction to those male victims we should ignore it as a society when a woman is murdered or commits suicide because it's 3 and 4 times more common respectively for a man? I mean, what the hell can you call that lack of empathy except severe prejudice?
/r/MensRights20/06/14 06:23 PM
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The all men 1 in 9 figure alone is astounding. Let alone the 1 in 6 and 1 in 3 figures which are astronomical.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 06:17 PM
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I don't believe that the first part is debatable, if you were circumcised properly and are happy with it than yeah you're fine. But in the end, yeah that doesn't matter. It's a shame that in some places the expectation that society places on males produces these kind of absolutely horrific disasters even if they're rare. But I don't really even blame parents, so much as I'd lay blame with the medical profession.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 02:05 AM
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I hope these disasters were able to be rectified by some degree with reconstructive surgery, although it's most likely that even if they were it would never be the same.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 01:52 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Dworkin
/r/MensRights19/06/14 01:47 AM
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We already know that, y'all use them all the time.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 01:42 AM
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You're an idiot if you think that excuses the teacher in any way. And you're changing the subject. Fine, get the kid in trouble. Suspend him from school or something. But put the teacher in jail too. That's the real point of this story.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 01:38 AM
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The only time I remember anyone being told that they had to change clothes in my school days was an instance where a female student was wearing a "boys suck" shirt. Never remember anyone else getting called out for anything. This was at a public school.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 01:27 AM
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It says 25 years to life, actually. I think it's stupid that it's worded like that (as in maximum is anything less than the maximum which in this case is life) but that's what they call it.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 09:33 PM
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I don't know, it's not like this is an unbelievable story or anything. It seems like something that would actually happen.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 05:04 AM
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Yeah I'm not saying they should bend the rules for him, just commenting that not being able to do 1 more push-up is quite an unusual way to lose out on a job.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 01:38 PM
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Would you rather have these fathers be forced to marry the mothers (who they don't want to marry) and live a lie?
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:02 AM
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He missed it by one push up? Jeez.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 04:55 AM
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"With their painstakingly pumped and chiselled bodies, muscle-enhancing tattoos, piercings, adorable beards and plunging necklines it’s eye-catchingly clear that second-generation metrosexuality is less about clothes than it was for the first," That description doesn't match the photo at all. These are just two thin guys without beards wearing bikinis. And they're apparently a couple (I googled them). It's my understanding that "metrosexual" was typically used to describe someone a man who was s…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 10:03 PM
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YOU wrote this quoted passage above, offering it as "real history," when it is not. Go back and look at your original post if you think I have misquoted you. My reading skills are excellent, and you have contended in those words that women didn't work in horrible jobs. You, then, are the one that made the comparison, and as a historian, I needed to correct your factual error. Maybe your reading skills are as excellent as you think. I didn't say all women were spared the burden of working horribl…
/r/MensRights11/06/14 10:36 PM
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Well, you can see how I might have gotten the impression that you were saying women got to sit on their soft asses at home while only the men worked, eh? I'm not calling managing a house in the 19th century easy but what I said was, in general, still correct. In terms of working conditions the average man had things really bad. And of the women that did work, they were usually given the least dangerous tasks within the industry. Still it would be considered awful work by today's standards. Every…
/r/MensRights11/06/14 08:12 PM
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Both sexes of the working class have always suffered, so it doesn't do any good to pretend otherwise. What I was doing was pointing out that the notion that 19th century men had it good is largely a lie, I wasn't "pretending" that women had it good. I didn't say anything about 19th century women, aside from that many didn't work (which is actually true by the way, depending on where you're from. Don't try to tell me it's not. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you may be from a di…
/r/MensRights11/06/14 06:07 PM
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Feminism and Men's Rights too often view each other as the enemy. That's why you've heard bad things about the MRM. That, and because feminism is kind of the status-quo these days. Feminism is scared of the MRM and I think I can explain why. We're taught in schools from a young age a narrative that would make the idea of "men's rights" seem ridiculous. For example, in school history classes, when we learned about the way things were in the 19th century it was always "women were not allowed to wo…
/r/MensRights11/06/14 03:58 PM
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men commit 99 percent of reported rapes Isn't there a lot of counter evidence in the form of government statistics and other surveys that blows that figure out of the water? Why ignore that? Now, I stand about a finger of tequila under six feet. I work out and would say I'm in decent shape, which means when I'm out alone at night, I rarely ever fear for my safety. Many men know exactly what I mean. Most women have no idea what that feels like -- to go wherever you want in the world, at any time …
/r/MensRights10/06/14 04:40 AM
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While I wouldn't call it "refreshing" to hear about this story, at least it's not be purposefully ignore to fill an agenda.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 01:31 AM
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I can't believe the author is actually shocked that this comic got rejected. It looks (and reads) like it was made by a 7 year old.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 01:35 PM
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I'd definitely advise you to ignore it. Too risky to get involved with someone like that.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 11:46 PM
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So... maybe removing the child from the custody of a child rapist is a good first move, maybethink? Yes. This woman clearly has poor judgement. Why she would be trusted as the "best interest" of the child is beyond me.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 12:48 AM
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I don't take offense to it. It's making fun of both men and women anyways.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 12:44 AM
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That's an amazing song btw
/r/MensRights06/06/14 12:38 AM
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That's the biggest problem with this to me - the implication is that women are never "poisonous". There are terrible women out there, plenty of them. But this frogmoron probably thinks it's sexist to point that out.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 07:06 PM
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That guy's a smug lil D-bag. So according to him, just because you're part of the "oppressive" group means you have less right to be cautious about your own safety? Personally I don't think we should be scared of anyone based on something other than their own personal behavior - but in what world does he live in? If you extrapolate this lack of empathy, in his world it seems that if a white male is randomly attacked by someone other than a white male we should basically just say "well this isn't…
/r/MensRights04/06/14 03:23 PM
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Men will always be stronger, always have the advantage But that's a stereotype that's dangerous to a male victim who isn't so strong. It's probably part of the reason men kill themselves more than women. P.S. I hope you're in a good place in regards to the abuse situation, and dealing with it. I'm sure it's tough, especially having to see your abuser again.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 03:04 PM
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How can any man look around and see such inequality and YET say "But I have problems too!" I'll levy that right back at the feminists. How can any of you look around and be so blind to the fact that it's largely men that make up the bottom rung of society? How can you be blind to the fact that men are the majority of homeless, suicides, school dropouts, and the majority locked in prison and say "men are simply an advantaged class and any problems they face are lesser than ours!"
/r/MensRights04/06/14 02:55 PM
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Male here. I remember being groped by a girl I didn't know when I was in school. I was maybe a little older than your 13 but not much (the incident I'm recalling was also literally during school mind you). It was actually kind of humiliating, but I don't remember being scared of her or thinking her actions represent women. I don't know, maybe the relative size difference between my 6 foot 4 (although probably not quite as big back then) and her being not much over 5 foot came into play, although…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:08 PM
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Yeah lots of women stress about their attractiveness to an extreme degree but I think that on average a woman has it better than a similar man in the dating world while they're under 30. Female attractiveness is correlated closer with youth.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 12:44 AM
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Creating awareness on this should be a big issue for the MRM. These stats are exactly of thing that most people have no idea about. I think if people knew that many men had this happen to them, that it was that common, male victims of violence would be taken more seriously (which would be immensely important to some of them.)
/r/MensRights02/06/14 12:14 AM
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The M&M analogy seems to imply that there aren't "poisonous" women. Which is BS.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 11:59 PM
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But no such equivalence exists. Yes, there are some women who victimize men. Far, far less than there are men who victimize women. Why in the hell are we supposed to just accept that as a fact?
/r/MensRights01/06/14 10:50 PM
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I will admit I'm not sure to what location and time period these stats may be attributed, so that could've been an inaccuracy on my part. Having said that - it seems likely to me be statistical manipulation in the sense that the way rape has been defined (by some ) requires the perpetrator to penetrate the victim in some way. And then yes, the bias of the courts as well.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 02:23 AM
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The 99% of rape is, at best a huge statistical error, and at worst, a hate filled lie.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 12:32 AM
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*Do you think that Men have less political power than Women? Why? A man has as much political power as a woman does. And men are still most of those who are in charge. On the other hand women as a group seem to generate more attention. An erroneous assumption that many females make is that men having all of the power results in males being better represented. Where their reasoning goes wrong is that they assume men have the "automatic same group preference" like women usually do. But men typical…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 10:20 PM
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lol I made it exactly 1 sentence further.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 09:42 PM
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i guess my new title is "feminist who isn't a giant butt fuck and also believes in the men's rights movement because that's equality and equality is important". Yeah I feel similar I could get behind aspects of feminism, but I can't call myself a feminist if that also means that you have to deny the existence of men's issues (which apparently it does to many). I don't buy into that "men it's your own fault for oppressing yourselves, and if you support us your 'issues' will automatically disappea…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 01:21 PM
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We support male victims of rape. Some feminists, sometimes do, sure. But there are also feminists who opposed including "made to penetrate" being considered rape. That's the opposite of support. The bigger advantages of being a woman to me than what this list focuses on are preferential treatment in the educational system and legal system and having much more support if you're in serious need (for example, the a staggering majority of those living in poverty in the U.S. are male).
/r/MensRights28/05/14 10:58 PM
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Per mile driven men have fewer accidents, but yeah insurance companies don't care how many miles you drive without an accident they just don't want to pay when it happens.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 03:35 PM
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It sucks that feminists with that sort of mindset are more accepted than someone who will question some of what is done in the name of feminism. I wouldn't have posted such a status even though I agree with you, because I know that questioning anything that has to do with "feminism" will mostly fall on deaf ears and hurt my reputation. I put feminism in quotations because this has nothing to do with the dictionary definition feminists like to quote about how feminism = equality and claiming mora…
/r/MensRights28/05/14 01:49 PM
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Rodger himself doesn't have much acute relevance to any of the above points except for mental illness imo. Yes he is strongly associated with the other problems but even if he didn't have them he would still be mentally ill - maybe things wouldn't have gotten as bad as they did but I'd wager a guy with his type of mind if left untreated would go on to cause serious problems in the lives of those close to him. But those other points are major problems for some people though. To address the loneli…
/r/MensRights28/05/14 12:35 AM
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Yes cause all women are just perfect right? And for the record men are the victims of male violence more often than women are. These issues don't need to be gendered. Killing is wrong. Assaulting someone is wrong. Rape is wrong. Why does it only matter if it's violence by a man directed towards a woman? By specifically gendering the problem all that it does is turn a blind eye to male on male, female on male, and female on female violence.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 04:45 PM
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Yeah I think that's fair, to a point. I think women do fear being raped more than men do. But men are raped far more than most believe and women are frequently the perpetrators. Completely gendering the issue does nothing to raise awareness to these facts. Why not help all victims rather than just female ones? Men are more often victims of violent crime than women. Men are more often homeless, more often commit suicide, and graduate from all levels of education less than women do. These are fact…
/r/MensRights27/05/14 03:15 AM
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But that doesn't mean that they deserve any less blame. It's not like they're purposefully restricting the power of their blows, if they could damage as bad they would. The action is there, and the intent is too.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 03:04 AM
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That's disgusting. Why are they even allowed to pretend like it's a lesser crime? It's a government statistic.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 10:33 PM
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I do agree with all of this but I also think that if he's not connected with MRAs in any way that it's sick for people to use this awful event and lie about it to further some agenda. We shouldn't defend him in any way nor lie about any of the facts; if he claimed to be a MRA then yes let's confront it head on. But if that's a fabrication, like some have claimed it is, serious shame on whoever put that idea out there and they deserve to be called out. Edit: Faulty Spell Check
/r/MensRights24/05/14 11:45 PM
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I really hope the title was, as I suspect, written purely for shock value and /or to show the reverse the unfair assumptions male teachers have. I don't believe these sort of instances to be commonplace regardless of gender, although they're certainly not unheard of. If convicted, I'm sure she'll get a lighter sentence than if she were a male teacher committing a similar offense but I guess there can't really be much more to say about it before that happens (assuming of course that it does happe…
/r/MensRights24/05/14 04:01 AM
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I think it's funny how the "problem" that women are choosing the wrong majors (according to some feminists) in college receives far more attention than the fact that there's a considerable amount of men who aren't even making it to college. I say let any and all students study what interests them!
/r/MensRights23/05/14 03:00 AM
2

This article's from Australia
/r/MensRights23/05/14 02:52 AM
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Seriously. That commenter is a Dbag. Make some stupid list of straw man arguments and shout at everyone who pokes holes in it it's called satire and I was never offering MY opinions. If you can't defend your stupid condescending, whiny and chose only to hide behind "satire" list don't post it.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 10:58 PM
1

Yeah I agree about the "unwanted attention" thing. Sure nobody wants to be harassed but the grass isn't always greener; if most women got absolutely 0 attention like a lot of men do then I think a whole new set of problems would arise. In my own case sometimes women do approach me, but I understand that these women are doing something which many women never do. So far in my experience, women become more likely to approach a man the older they get (although I'm still being in my mid 20s and aroun…
/r/MensRights22/05/14 12:59 PM
2

Being someone who has some of the more desirable male physical traits (6 ft 3 1/2 in height, good physical fitness, full head of hair, no significantly asymmetric or over/under-sized bad facial features) I know that logically I should probably have a higher level of confidence than I do. It's not as though I am ultra shy or anything, but I know a lot of guys my age chat up strange women more often than I would when we're out at a club or somewhere similar. Can I blame that on the Male images in …
/r/MensRights20/05/14 04:10 AM
1

Let me preface I could be wrong about my assertions and you don't have to accept what I say. But I reject your unnecessarily harsh and profane criticism on the following grounds. Yes there is obviously no 1 sexual preference that is biologically innate to humans. There are men who like other men - that's proof enough that this is the case. I disagree though, that the fact that a lot of men don't have the same innate biological preferences means that we have to be all tight-lipped about the fact …
/r/MensRights18/05/14 10:55 PM
2

There are no self-defence classes taught to men in how to deal with female attacks, sexual or otherwise. ... And if there ever was one, feminists have no doubt protested it and got it banned.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 10:52 PM
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I'm not saying it's "right" but a lot of men are instinctively more attracted to women who have had less sex partners. This isn't necessarily a conscious thought, it occurs because a woman who doesn't sleep around isn't likely to cuckold a man. That said, of course a persons value doesn't go up or down if they've had more or less sex. Their attractiveness to the opposite sex might, but conflating attractiveness with value is abhorred.
/r/MensRights17/05/14 12:11 AM
10

I think much of the anti-feminism sentiment in the MRA comes from the fact that in Western society men disproportional make up the bottom rung, yet all we hear out of feminists is how "privileged" men are because they also happen to disproportionally make up the top rung. Men are the majority of CEOs and feminists make a big deal about it - but men are also the majority of homeless and feminists couldn't seem to care less about that. Men are the majority in STEM and feminists want more women in …
/r/MensRights14/05/14 05:21 PM
1

The whole equality thing is about hypotheticals half the time, unfortunately.
/r/MensRights11/05/14 11:26 PM
13

... But if the situation was reversed with a crazy man attacking a woman, there's not a chance people start giving her this heat for continuing the confrontation. Sure, they'll say she was being dumb to do that, but they're not going to say that the two shared an equal burden of starting the fight.
/r/MensRights10/05/14 03:49 AM
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I think a few of them are Ok, but all in all a lot of swing-and-misses. Sure. No it didn't. And I'm pretty sure I've seen directly contradictory evidence to the housework example. Maybe, but it's created more of them than it's overturned. Ok ...Whatever. See above. No. It gave WOMEN more reproductive rights. Abortion is a woman's decision not a man's. Better also mention that they still purposefully exclude "made to penetrate," which is the majority of rape on men outside of prison rape. Sure. T…
/r/MensRights06/05/14 02:51 PM
1

If it was needed that would work against the purpose.
/r/MensRights01/05/14 04:01 PM
2

Sharon Osborne Leads Laughs About Male Genital Mutilation
/r/MensRights01/05/14 04:00 PM
2

Oh God. Sharon Osbourne. The fact that the woman wasn't crucified by the media after that bit is all the proof I need to know for sure that society has severe prejudices against male victims. And the fact that she's still allowed on T.V. after spewing that vile shit only furthers that point.
/r/MensRights01/05/14 12:40 AM
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If you are in a relationship where the wife can manipulate you into not having a DNA test when you want one you should not be in that relationship. Forcing the DNA test is not going to solve your problems. Maybe not, but it will tell some men who have been denied the right to know that "their own" children aren't theirs. And if a woman has been covering that up, you really shouldn't be in that relationship.
/r/MensRights30/04/14 02:23 PM
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I wouldn't say they are but at the same time it's hypocritical of them to say NAFALT when most of them do decry "not all men are like that" as something wrong to ever say.
/r/MensRights29/04/14 01:56 PM
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It's a ridiculous concept. Women currently hold plenty of right to complain about how they are portrayed and use it to full effect. If a man makes a sweeping generalization about women he's a "misogynist" because not all women. But not all men is somehow not allowed. Feminists want to dictate the narrative of not only how women are portrayed but also how men are portrayed. And the idea that simply "not all" men are rapists, or even the "not all" men have political power examples are misleading. …
/r/MensRights28/04/14 09:08 PM
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But every man (or enough men to make a large portion of women notice) is going to have to get on board with that to work.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 01:10 PM
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If the framing is "men must get enthusiastic consent or it's rape" then yes I agree, it's just pushing further burdens onto men, specifically regarding the pursuit of women. If the framing is "women must give enthusiastic consent" then that's perfect for men, it places the onus of consenting affirmatively on women. And you can tell because I'm sure women will react negatively to the idea rather than getting to be a passive object of pursuit. It doesn't matter how you word it. Even if "the onus o…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 03:59 AM
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Good find thanks for posting
/r/MensRights24/04/14 02:28 PM
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You think MRAs are saying they don't? That's what she's saying MRAs think. Women have as much a "right" to be free from violence (seems odd to call that a "right" as it's not really enforceable) as anyone else.
/r/MensRights17/04/14 04:24 PM
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Yet if three men were having a similar conversation about women it's suddenly not okay because they're lacking in female opinions and simply "mansplaining".
/r/MensRights16/04/14 02:56 AM
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There were some very backhanded compliments thrown in there.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 02:54 AM
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“Men’s rights”, a code word for opposition to women’s rights (usually women’s right to be free of violence, to be autonomous in their sexual and relationship decision-making, and to be treated as equals in education and labor ) Literally 0 things right.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 02:51 AM
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That is fucking ridiculous.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 02:46 AM
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I am speaking of the way the world was 1000s upon 1000s of years ago, when our instincts were conditioned. In a time before those modern laws, in which men do now have a ton to lose.
/r/MensRights15/04/14 04:11 PM
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The reason why at a basic level this double standard exists is because more women can get casual sex when they want it than men can. Examine our history as humans. For thousands upon thousands of years in our existence there weren't contraceptives available as they are today. A woman who had sex with a man must have either really wanted to have sex with him and/or been prepared to procreate with this man, because she's investing an awful lot of time and energy as a result if she gets pregnant. T…
/r/MensRights15/04/14 03:57 PM
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I think some men can withhold sex just fine, I think I could. I never have because I'm not a vindictive type, but I do believe I could. If a man did it though, I think people would view it as wrong.
/r/MensRights06/04/14 02:47 AM
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I think that'd be it for me if they instituted that policy at my gym. I'd drop my membership immediately. They already have women only gyms all over the country! What more do you need? I've never heard of such a gym women were not allowed to join. Isn't that already enough privilege?
/r/MensRights06/04/14 02:41 AM
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You seem to have seriously "what about the men!?"ed the comments. Feminism doesn't care about men. It's pretty much always all about women. Completely gynocentric. If it addressed both men's and women's issues then saying "what about the men?" is dereailing would be a valid point. But it doesn't.
/r/MensRights05/04/14 03:46 PM
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If it makes any difference, I thought it was a legitimate point to bring up. The reactions between this sort of activity targeting males vs females is kind of telling about society's differing views towards males. And also, it's very hypocritical if these responses are coming from guys who like looking at ahem similar material featuring women. Just saying.
/r/MensRights05/04/14 01:37 AM
2

No nation is free of whack jobs, unfortunately.
/r/MensRights05/04/14 01:28 AM
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Yeah I don't understand the whole "being a man is easier" sentiment in Western society today. I'd agree with the statement that being white, on average, provides an advantage in some ways in modern Western society. Being male? No. Not for young adults in 2014 in the West. In fact, there's a case to be made that even in the early years of this country it was a lot easier being female... Tending to a household before modern technology was quite tough, no doubt, but was it really harder than workin…
/r/MensRights05/04/14 01:18 AM
8

Unfortunately this guy can never get back those years lost in jail and battling the lie.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 01:08 PM
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Yeah I'd be genuinely interested in hearing what the hell their reply would be to this?
/r/MensRights03/04/14 09:33 PM
1

This reads as ridiculously as satire.
/r/MensRights03/04/14 03:31 PM
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Again? Read the 3 responses to other people I already wrote saying the same thing. I don't think it is either.
/r/MensRights03/04/14 03:17 PM
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I wasn't implying you were wrong. Sometimes debate doesn't include compromise. I just don't think people are willing to listen without seeing these sort of facts, in which male sexual coercion is at a high rate. Because until something like this flies counter to their preconceived assumptions that it is something that just happens to women, then they're not going to be willing to challenge their world view. Even if you're 100% right (and I'm sure you're more knowledgeable about this than I) I th…
/r/MensRights31/03/14 01:39 PM
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I'd argue that no, it doesn't need to be rejected as dangerous and inappropriate... Rather, it should serve as to a starting point to debate the re-examining these issues and possibly even redefining them . And unfortunately, I think it's only when discussing male victims that people are willing to have that discussion.
/r/MensRights31/03/14 03:07 AM
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3 people vs all sorts of up-votes. The heavy majority of people understood so I didn't think it was worth it.
/r/MensRights29/03/14 05:08 AM
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I've already explained what I meant by this to 2 other people, I don't know if you're being snide or you're just too lazy to read. Not "choice" as in gay is a choice, but choice in that he's not going to chose to be with a woman and people shouldn't give him shit for it.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 03:01 PM
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I didn't mean choice as in choosing to be gay in the sense that when people say "being gay is a choice". What I mean is that they're not going to chose to be with someone that they aren't attracted to.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 03:11 AM
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Yes that's a better word for what I meant. I think most understood anyways though.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 03:10 AM
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I will never understand why anybody has to police what other people are attracted to, or try to make someone apologize for it. If a man is only interested in thin women? That's his choice. If he's not interested in a woman who has a sexual history with 10 times as many partners as his own? That's his choice. If he's gay? Also his choice. You're not going to convince someone to be attracted to something they're not, nobody is obligated to be attracted to anybody else.
/r/MensRights27/03/14 10:59 PM
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By this logic, everyone should pretty much everyone who they don't know. Even leaving aside the obvious point that it's not just men that are rapists, anyone could be a murderer no? Why take the chance interacting with someone who could kill you. Even if more men murder than women do, it still applies. To use her Russian roulette example, would you suddenly play the game of Russian roulette just because you switched from a 6 chamber gun to one with 10? No, you still wouldn't do that because ther…
/r/MensRights27/03/14 03:22 PM
2

And it would also mean that I got sexuality assaulted at a club just a few weeks ago!
/r/MensRights26/03/14 03:25 PM
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You're comparing apples to oranges in a condescending way that does little to further the conversation.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 03:38 AM
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Wow this whole thing is terrible.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:12 PM
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Agreed. I've had girls in bars/clubs grab my butt or crotch as well as physically place my hands on those areas on them. I've never once done anything like that to a woman I wasn't already involved with, but I do think it's reasonably common and it definitely goes both ways. Society just sees it differently when a woman does it, because society doesn't view women's sexuality as predatory the way it does for men's.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 08:31 PM
1

Exactly, that's why men under 30 these days are so much more concerned with their appearance than men of the past. Their value as providers is less important in today's world and short term relationships based around sex are becoming more the norm. The advantages of being a more physically attractive male are still not up to those of being a physically attractive female, but they're drawing nearer than ever before. But a male's long term value it seems, is still very much tied to his achievement…
/r/MensRights24/03/14 09:33 PM
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We want the men the way they were back then, back when they had class and at least tried to be gentlemen. It's a two way street sister. Women aren't what they were years ago either. And if women are really pining for the men of old, it's just evidence they've shot themselves in the foot. At the end of the day men have changed in the ways they have because of women. For example, it's women who men seek to impress with their choices in clothing. She's acting like young men put on Jersey shore douc…
/r/MensRights21/03/14 12:27 AM
2

The information he had was faulty, but it's raises the question of whether he's held legally responsible for acting on the misinformation. Given that his daughter is a minor he might be. But I suppose it could go either way.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 10:02 PM
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No other injuries were reported, but the father was transported to the hospital to be checked out for medical reasons as he complained that he was not feeling well. Yeah maybe he's "not feeling well" because he just fucking killed a kid. The father should face some jail time. Maybe the daughter too.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 09:18 PM
1

Gotta love that there's a picture of Big Red on the movie site. She's probably the best rebuttal to the "yes men have some issues but some MRAs are misogynists so don't listen to any of them" sentiment that's pumped out there over and over again.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:16 PM
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Of course my friends would be more inclined to believe me due to our pre-existing relationship, but why I am so unquestionably trustworthy, and why is S so untrustworthy? ...The answer comes down, fundamentally, to sexism. Good lord, that's a jump and a half. Here's a thought... Maybe they were calling her a "crazy bitch" because she is a habitual liar.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 03:17 PM
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How come there is this assumption with nice guys, that they're always only nice because they want sex? What if a guy who is genuinely nice to most/all people (including those he has NO romantic interest in) wants to be in a relationship with a woman who only considers him a friend? This whole "nice guy" theory seems to hinge on the fact that the guy was being disingenuous with her, which could be true in some cases but certainly not all. Also there's a comment by "schaka" that really nits the na…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 04:34 AM
2

By middle school, girls are less interested in leading than boys—a trend that continues into adulthood. Yeah? Then how come female students the freaking majority of college graduates? I swear they probably just conducted some biased coded survey to make the results say what they want them to say. The reality is that the opposite of their claim is true, and it's clear as day when you look at real world statistics.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 11:54 PM
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In any case, I think it's amazing that she uses a comment with a -89 rating to represent the voice of MRAs.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 09:36 PM
2

At least the sketch is being recognized for it's lacking in humor. http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2014/03/lena-dunham-snl-recap
/r/MensRights10/03/14 01:48 AM
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Maybe sometimes, but that doesn't mean there isn't legitimacy to many of the problems addressed on here. The fact that there are jackasses who post here and down-vote irrationally doesn't mean everything posted here is a joke. That's the argument that the outside world tends to use, typecast MRA like in the video, to disqualify all of the concerns.
/r/MensRights09/03/14 04:33 PM
1

There should definitely be a different charge for this. Assault is the wrong word for what happened. But somehow I have the feeling a woman who poked holes in a condom to get herself pregnant from a man wouldn't be getting 18 months in jail, but rather a monthly check from said man instead.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 05:58 PM
2

This is the thing about Feminism that irks me. The movement itself only deals with female issues. I think some of what they do has been commendable in some respect, but they just simply don't seem to care when its men who are disadvantaged. As most here already know, men are disadvantaged in the education system, the legal system, and are disproportionately victims of suicide and violent crime. Where's the outrage? Society views men in pretty messed up ways, the example I always come back to is …
/r/MensRights07/03/14 05:08 AM
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It should definitely be against the law. Violence is the wrong word to describe it, but I'm not going to stand behind this guy's "right" to do that either.
/r/MensRights06/03/14 03:46 PM
3

To answer the first question, I suppose I just don't know what being uncut is like. If anything was done to me that left me unable to perform or have a dissatisfying romantic life I would be beyond upset about it. But since I still can perform and enjoy sex and no women I've been with have had any issue with it, I don't really miss my foreskin. I know no other way. To the second point, I think you're probably right. Just because I'm not personally upset about being cut doesn't mean that the way …
/r/MensRights05/03/14 06:51 PM
1

I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't care too much that I was cut at birth. I'm perfectly satisfied with what I have and as far as I know the women I've been with have been too. But for the last question... I guess I don't feel the need to complain about women I don't fancy (physically). It's not like I'm going to end up being intimate with someone I have no attraction to. Women are allowed to have their own preferences, but I'm not gonna gain tons of respect for a woman who I hear com…
/r/MensRights05/03/14 05:22 PM
2

This is so terrible off the mark, it's not right. When people start thinking being born male makes you inherently better as a person than being born female, they shouldn't be taken seriously by any of us. That's just Valerie Solanas in reverse.
/r/MensRights05/03/14 04:56 PM
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Interesting about the inclusion of numbers 5 and 7 made it into the list. Male victims and especially female perpetrators are almost always completely ignored in this sort of thing. Good for them for actually briefly mentioning the truth, that anyone can be a victim or perpetrator.
/r/MensRights05/03/14 04:44 PM
2

Women have more barriers? In academia??? You do realize women are getting almost 60% of bachelors degrees and over 60% of post graduate degrees right? In other words, they're doing disproportionately well in school.
/r/MensRights05/03/14 04:05 AM
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It's good that he did help women/really his community as a whole. I think it's a great story and this man is pretty exceptional. Especially considering he did all of this without education. But it's also a shit deal that the cost of his success was that he lost his family and was kicked out of his village. Why should his wife who didn't support him through the hard times - no even went so far as to leave him - get to walk back into his life and share in the success? She clearly didn't care about…
/r/MensRights04/03/14 04:25 PM
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Why are they standing up for this woman who is clearly in the wrong? I don't think it does anything to "empower" actual victims. And what the hell do they expect him to do instead? Just sit back and accept being accused of this?
/r/MensRights27/02/14 05:13 PM
1

I don't fault him for saying that he would hit a man back and not a woman, it's this guys choice whether or not he defends himself, who he feels threatened by, or what he should do in that situation. I might do the same (of course depending on the circumstance). However, saying it is the fault of the man if a woman hits him is not okay. It's insulting and it's actually a form of victim blaming, oddly enough.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 10:10 PM
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What the hell? I know I wouldn't think twice about having a door held open for me. And I usually hold the door open for anyone right behind me.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 08:08 PM
2

Of course the tinfoil hat wearing voice in the back of my head is already whispering that Sweden is preparing to start treating teenage boys with estrogen. It's a crazy idea but I wouldn't be surprised if it hasn't already been seriously proposed at some point. I could definitely picture someone having made an argument for that. On the basis that it will make boys/young men "less aggressive" or something similarly insulting.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 08:07 PM
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It's because of hormones, not discrimination. One of the effects of estrogen is that causes growth plates to close, and obviously females have a lot more estrogen than males. This is such a non issue and whoever wrote the article obviously doesn't know the first thing about basic endocrinology.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 04:48 AM
3

That's true, there is more pressure on them women/girls to look good. While I do believe there is a lot more pressure on men to look good than many women realize (probably due to it being not as much as their own) I wouldn't argue against your assertion. But to play devil's advocate here... Don't many women complain about getting male attention? Feminists often complain about it, anyways.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 04:01 AM
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I mean, what is it that she wants men to do about this? In her mind, what am I supposed to be doing differently to properly protect women? Does she want me to follow a woman around late at night to make sure nobody hurts her? Sounds like a good way to get the cops called on you, and undoubtedly arrested. If men collectively had the power to stop murder, we would've already done so a long time ago. Even if we were all corrupt self serving pigs, we'd have plenty of motivation to end it given that …
/r/MensRights19/02/14 05:17 PM
2

Obviously this is an old story, but I would imagine that there are legal boundaries that must have been crossed. If I was one of those students I would definitely want who ever was responsible to face some sort of consequences.
/r/MensRights16/02/14 05:44 AM
2

I've never officially labeled myself an "MRA" but I do feel quite strongly about some of the MRM issues. The biggest I think is the empathy gap, because I think that's at the root of a lot of problems men face. It's also super annoying how men's rights is taken as a joke by the mainstream while feminism is viewed as untouchable and can do no wrong.
/r/MensRights15/02/14 03:53 AM
2

Seriously. I'm 6-3 and given that I have no money can we please not work to squander my biggest advantage in the dating world? lol
/r/MensRights12/02/14 04:57 PM
3

4 does specifies "women" too, actually.
/r/MensRights10/02/14 08:06 PM
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