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Actually lived in LA and knew a guy who had been tricking, he’d agree with me
/r/seduction16/08/26 11:13 PM
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Well almost none of these girls were ugly before make up. Many still possess features like blonde hair/blue eyes which in the world we live in almost guarantee you privilege far beyond the need to porn. When I said where do you find them, I more so meant what kinda places are they usually from, assuming they’d be from some bumblefucks.
/r/seduction16/08/26 11:07 PM
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You made a claim based on your beliefs alone, then refused to look into any of available evidence. Now how am I supposed to treat your tale seriously. > pimps and women who turn their friends out aren’t social geniuses, they just know how to create and leverage dependency in whatever form that comes for the individual. Though undeniably evil, sounds like some pretty advanced social engineering to me.
/r/seduction16/08/26 10:52 PM
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> From what I’ve seen, all the cam girls come from broken homes or poor backgrounds. Their mental state usually isn't great either, because if they were in a better mindset, they'd find other ways to make money. That part always confuses me as I keep hearing it from the people in adult industry. For the sake of my mental health I try not to dabble in adult content, but whenever I do, I seem to come across astonishing amounts of absolutely gorgeous younger women absolutely majorly of whom are whi…
/r/seduction16/08/26 10:46 PM
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Ugh, put that way I can see it making total sense. The rare women doing extraordinary things for me also felt like it was due to them developing feelings rather than me performing some tricks on them in order to make that happen. I just find it to be an interesting topic as there’s countless examples of women living entirely off of men, but contrary is highly rare. Meanwhile women’s dating market value is largely tied to their looks, which can only be improved so much beyond what nature has give…
/r/seduction16/08/26 10:24 PM
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What if it’s an objectively well off woman and it costs her nothing?
/r/seduction16/08/26 10:10 PM
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Are you sure though? Yes, I see how they’d have to be way more selective, but getting laid also seems far more simple compared to what they’re convincing these women to do.
/r/seduction16/08/26 10:06 PM
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Plenty ways for anyone curious to have a peak into this world from the safety of their home. Them all being victims is just a narrative, many romanticize that life despite how objectively bad it is the same way men romanticize being thugs and gangsters. If you watch enough SWers interviews you’d be surprised by how many of them got into it on their own or through their female friends and THEN met their pimp.
/r/seduction16/08/26 10:02 PM
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Okay the pimp example might’ve not been the best one, but if you look into the streets more, there’s multiple cases of women doing the kind of things for their men I’ve never seen a PUA dream of. I’ve personally met a girl who willingly took a gun case for her gang member ex, she was white. Loads of cases of women letting their men keep drugs in their homes or being used to lure the enemies. Don’t even get me started on all the jail visits, putting money on someone’s books or bonding them out. I…
/r/seduction16/08/26 09:58 PM
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C. Get so good at it that you can finesse, get money and live off women.
/r/seduction16/08/26 09:08 PM
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“That was old me, I’m not like that anymore 💅 “
/r/seduction16/08/26 08:38 PM
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Curious, how does one bring up the topic of STI testing over the phone with someone they haven’t even met yet? Does it always go smoothly? And if not, what’s the ratio?
/r/seduction16/08/26 08:30 PM
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I wouldn’t get serious with a woman I had to work this hard for. Most have slept with a guy on a first date at least once previously in their lives. You’re either someone she’s willing to break rules for or you’re not. I wouldn’t want to be with someone who prioritizes some completely optional made up self imposed rules over time with me, you’re just not that important to them.
/r/seduction16/08/26 08:07 PM
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Even that is special treatment reserved only for the top 10% of what I can pull. Hard to get 🐱 is usually just not worth it, if she’s able to withhold it for that long, she probably just doesn’t have a high enough sex drive to be all that fun in bed. That, or there’s someone else clapping that whole time, either way I’ll pass.
/r/seduction16/08/26 08:03 PM
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Two. After two dates if the vibe is otherwise good, I’ll suggest we do something at my place or theirs. If they want to do something else instead - I’m out.
/r/seduction16/08/26 08:01 PM
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Fascinating. I’m unfamiliar with the programs you’ve mentioned, is it anything a PC would be required for or anything that requires a payment? Just out of curiosity, how did you find out you got blasted on are we dating the same guy?
/r/seduction12/08/26 01:32 AM
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Literally just go to a bar get drinks and talk, you don’t need to plan a whole day of activities for someone you’ve never met You’re supposed to be unsure whether you even like them yet lol
/r/seduction12/08/26 01:19 AM
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Pm
/r/seduction12/08/26 12:12 AM
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Well if you can sleep with them before they find out and do that often enough, now you got a sex life full of top tier women. They might not stay long, but once again, if you can do that consistently - I don’t mind. I can’t boss up overnight, even if I get real serious about my life and start making all the right moves, I’ll be too old for the worlds most attractive women by the time I’m (if ever) loaded. Being in my late twenties I’m already older, though not much, than majority of top 1% of wo…
/r/seduction12/08/26 12:09 AM
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lol yes him, he’s actually the only coach I don’t cringe when listening to and I like his way of breaking things down If you know any similar ones I would appreciate a recommendation, especially if u can listen to them in podcast form rather than watching on youtube
/r/seduction11/08/26 10:37 PM
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tall, skinny, white but slavic, kinda fit but not enough for anyone to be able to notice if I have a tshirt on, face is ok I guess, probably lower end of what would be considered attractive, bad teeth though for the past few years I’ve been averaging 40 ish girls per year I’m very good with dating apps and logistics, I’d say my biggest strength would be being able to optimize this process for maximum efficiency and set dates in a way that will make it easy and smooth for us to escalate and go ho…
/r/seduction11/08/26 10:26 PM
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Are you cold approaching as in doing day game or night game? I’ve never been to Scandinavia, but been around many Scandinavians in other parts of Europe as their women are some of my favorites. Yes, Nordic women arevery cold and shy and u can see how that can make sparking a conversation difficult in a cafe or a park, but so are Nordic men. Your competition is dudes with no charisma or swag, it’s a very good thing. Same as the fact that these women are also very progressive and slutty. One night…
/r/seduction11/08/26 08:42 PM
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Yea, a lot also has to do with how you frame it. Like I’m doing objectively good for where I come from, so I can present myself as a victim of late stage capitalism, who is ambitious and makes the best of his circumstances. Women leaning heavily left are especially likely to eat it up. Another frame I can take on as someone who’s lived a pretty interesting life, traveled around and achieved a lot within my hobbies is one of a non conformist free spirit chasing his passions and experiences rather…
/r/seduction11/08/26 07:55 PM
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Maybe getting instagrams would work better since all the information they have on you a brief interaction from a few days ago. Wouldn’t hurt if they could see you’re a real person with a cool life?
/r/seduction11/08/26 06:35 PM
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I’ve been getting pretty hot women somewhat consistently for many years now. Given that I like white girls and choose to live in extremely expensive coastal cities, every single one of these women have been wealthier than me, oftentimes by a landslide. I find it that with genuinely high value women, once who are educated and come from good households, money isn’t that important for casual dating. Ones with money of their own or family money are less likely to be picky about how much money you ha…
/r/seduction11/08/26 06:31 PM
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Correct
/r/seduction11/08/26 02:11 PM
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Six four
/r/seduction11/08/26 02:08 PM
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Any more practical tips on how does one actually get started?
/r/seduction11/08/26 02:08 PM
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Done
/r/seduction11/08/26 05:01 AM
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Sure
/r/seduction11/08/26 04:53 AM
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I don’t have a neighbor like that and never did. I’ve always been broke though so if you live in a working class area you won’t have that many hot girls nearby, let alone if you live in the hood. Hot = conventionally attractive, presence of prominent attractive features, lack of unattractive ones
/r/seduction11/08/26 02:13 AM
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I’ve moved cities multiple times in that time span, my ratio of successful to unsuccessful dates was different everywhere depending on many factors life logistics of car centric versus walkable cities, neighborhoods I was in and their proximity to the nicer areas where hot girls tend to live and hangout. Plus you’ll be seen differently everywhere you go and your competition will differ as well. Throughout different periods my date closing rate fluctuated between 1/3 to 4/5. Though that also depe…
/r/seduction11/08/26 02:10 AM
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200+ sex partners in my lifetime, vast majority being within the last five years
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:49 AM
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It’s not even that I’m leaning on them, it’s that I genuinely don’t have that many free nights left weekly after multiple first dates and sneaky links with girls I’ve already gone on a date with in the past. Not to say I do that every single night, but definitely most nights and sometimes I need time for myself too.
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:40 AM
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What’re you even doing in this sub then? Have you never met a good looking guy who struggles with women or a chopped one who has it easy? What do you think determines that if not social skills?
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:37 AM
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Isn’t that the point of learning seduction? To be able to get a relationship, sexual or otherwise, out of people for whom you are a random dude? Happened to me irl too, just not anywhere near as consistently as with the apps. Besides, did you not read the part where I said I was broke? Idk how much it costs to buy a pro, but I’m pretty sure any bare minimum attractive non ghetto white girl in her twenties (if such types even do sex work) would cost and arm and a leg. Not even talking about the m…
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:29 AM
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Dm
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:13 AM
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I mean, girls who remember the days of 2010s PUAs are probably too old to be my targeted demographic given that I’m still under 30. The problem is more so that everyone has somewhere to be and in case with hit girls, it’s usually somewhere unaffordable.
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:13 AM
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In your particular case, perhaps. Amount of effort it’ll take most men to be featured in something like that is probably gonna be far greater with far lower chances of succeeding versus simply taking some good photos.
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:10 AM
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Yea, ngl it doesn’t seem like a good ROI. Your viral reel will only keep getting views for so long versus a few good pics which you can use for years.
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:07 AM
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Because there seems to be a limit to how hot of a girl you can get to go on date with you from apps, but there’s no limit to how hot of a girl you can walk up and talk to, so that seems to be the only way to get hotter girls than I do rn given that I see girls out and about who are hotter than almost everyone I met online. Problem with meeting girls irl seems that all the hottest white girls, which is what I’m after, have it way too good in life and live in a different world pretty much. They re…
/r/seduction11/08/26 01:04 AM
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Take good pics, write funny prompts, swipe, match, message, text, set cheap dates, escalate, close. Rinse and repeat. Being tall, living in US’s biggest cities, buying premium subscriptions and having the kinds of jobs which actually allow you to spend hours taking advantage of unlimited likes daily def helps. I’m good ish with women, but I’m amazing at online dating.
/r/seduction11/08/26 12:51 AM
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Once again I’m a white men dating white women, dynamics of cross racial relationships have zero relevance to my dating life.
/r/seduction11/08/26 12:45 AM
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Maybe, maybe not. I like basic blonde white girls, so not really interested in arguing your point.
/r/seduction11/08/26 12:42 AM
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For what? If you can get one 8, you can get a hundred of them, or more, just repeat what worked for you again and again. I’ve gotten good at optimizing that process making it as efficient as possible but no one of that helps getting any girls from the higher leagues, just scale the number of the one you get within yours.
/r/seduction11/08/26 12:40 AM
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So 95% still count lol, I like light features, sue me. In my experience getting dates with ethnic women was easier, but they’re noticeably less likely to sleep on the first date or come over to your place right away. It’s all anecdotal evidence as my experience with ethnic women isn’t very extensive, though I can’t help but wonder if they just get off on the ego boost of making a white guy “work for it”
/r/seduction11/08/26 12:34 AM
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OLD and social media are v different, building a good OLD profile takes just six good pics and a good bio, building a decent ig profile takes a lot of time and consistency and requires you to be living a bare minimum cool life. I assume what you could be considered a good Instagram depends on the city you’re in, but in places like NYC or especially LA, I believe it’s hat I said applies. Pulled hundreds through OLD and none through IG despite having around 5k of genuine followers and many posts w…
/r/seduction10/08/26 11:27 PM
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They might not be, but OPs value in relation to a 5 is gonna be different compared to a 9. It’s a different type of scenario. When talking to a hot girl, your goal is to make her feel as though sleeping with you is a win for her. If she’s ugly and you’re not, it IS a win for her and it’s clear as day.
/r/seduction10/08/26 11:14 PM
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You want to set a date they will make it easy to A. escalate B. move things to your place or hers. What I do is I pick a bar that is either next to a cool and more secluded view or lookout spot where it’ll be easier to get physical or make out once you can feel that she’s comfortable with you. If there are no in your area, you can also do that in a photo booth, which many bars have. Once you feel her getting around, suggest moving things “some place more comfortable”. Having the bar be close to …
/r/seduction10/08/26 10:10 PM
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It’s not everything it’s made out to be, I got some girls blowing up my phone begging for dick who wouldn’t care if I live or die. It’s nice not to feel left out sexually and have the confidence boost it gives you, but it’s not something that’ll make you feel deeply fulfilled, loved or happy. Definitely not complaining though, it’s nice to have regular sex at least.
/r/seduction10/08/26 10:02 PM
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If you’re considering doing it purely for practicing seduction, I don’t think you have much to learn from it. Talking to women who already like you is not the same as talking to women who don’t like you yet. 5s aren’t wired the same as attractive girls, whatever you’d pick up from it might not be applicable with girls you actually want.
/r/seduction10/08/26 09:54 PM
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Dm
/r/seduction09/08/26 10:25 PM
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I’m 6’4 and still get this sort of attitude from time to time knowing with certainty they wouldn’t be this way towards a guy they actually really really like, but they match me anyway for attention and potential ego boost in case I choose to go along with their bs (I won’t). It’s important to control yourself and not retaliate though, it’s not worth getting banned.
/r/seduction09/08/26 03:38 PM
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I mean, the dude doesn’t owe those girls boyfriends anything, he doesn’t even know them. If the girls gonna cheat, might as well be with him. It’s the girls who are in a relationship, supposedly having promising their boyfriend’s exclusivity and then fucking someone else behind their backs.
/r/seduction07/08/26 10:00 AM
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Sure
/r/seduction06/08/26 08:35 PM
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NEVER do food on the first date, it’s expensive and feels platonic, it doesn’t allow for much physical escalation as you’re sorting in front of each other in a likely fully lit up room rather side by side in a dark bar somewhere. Plus being bloated and having just eaten doesn’t necessarily make people feel sexy and likely to sleep with you that day. Also dinner dates are happening earlier in the night, so you run the risk of having her already make plans for after eating with you, so no matter h…
/r/seduction06/08/26 08:07 PM
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Most girls aren’t gonna be cool with coming over to your crib on the first link. If I were you I would play the numbers game and focus on scaling your matches so you can find more of those who are gonna be cool with it rather than trying to turn around those who aren’t.
/r/seduction06/08/26 08:01 PM
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Yup. That’s why I don’t get the “kiss in the middle of the date” point. If she made out with you she’s likely to sleep with you too, what’s even the point to continue the date then if you can just close right then and there.
/r/seduction06/08/26 07:57 PM
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NYC is literally the best place for dating apps, I have twice the number of options here I had in any other city, it’s like a cheat code. Majority of Gen Z moving to nyc are women because majority of college graduates these days are women, so they’re more likely to get good jobs, therefore they move to cities like ny in higher numbers. I’ve been with 41 women in ny, 13 were straight up come over to my crib type deals.
/r/seduction06/08/26 07:54 PM
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He didn’t say he wants to date, he said he wants to hookup. I’ve been with over 200 women and never once have I spent anywhere near $200 on a date even though I’ve lived in some of americas most expensive cities. They only times I’d reach close to a $100 was when I had to call a uber on a holiday night.
/r/seduction06/08/26 07:48 PM
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More than a half of the girls I’ve slept with in the past three years came over to my house or invited me over to theirs too. Not a hundred, but not far from that either. It’s definitely a thing that happens.
/r/seduction06/08/26 07:45 PM
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You’re the man, you lead the interaction, set a cheap date. Pick a cheap bar, arrive ten minutes late - she will get bored and buy herself a drink. Then order the cheapest beer they have - you just got yourself a date for $6. If you play a good pipe most would be cool with just having you come over next time with no prior date needed.
/r/seduction06/08/26 07:42 PM
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Well that kinda brings us back to why I made this post in the first place. To look for a response that will reject their frame of a chooser and let them know I won’t go for that, but in a way that still sounds playful and doesn’t ruin the vibe. Just because she’s generally bitchy doesn’t mean she must be bitchy around me too, I’m just trying to figure out how to make that happen. Unfortunately it’s extremely common for women in high looks percentiles to be somewhat bad people, finding one that i…
/r/seduction06/08/26 07:39 PM
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Makes sense, but a lot of it comes down to logistics and whether or not the location allows for physical escalation. Many bars have photo booths, I like suggesting we hit those, it ends up being a makeout almost every single time, offering a great opportunity to suggest we go back to mine. That way they’re already turned on at the time they make that decision, which works in your favor.
/r/seduction06/08/26 07:30 PM
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No one is making you pick one. Besides, I feel a lot better about myself hanging out with a cool 7 knowing that it’s my choice to do so rather than knowing that even though I am enjoying my time, I am settling for her simply cause it’s the best I can do. When I see another man out in public with a baddie, I’m not wondering if they got a good relationship going or if she’s bitchy or full of herself, all I’m thinking is I want THAT
/r/seduction06/08/26 07:25 PM
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Not giving me shit is unfortunately not the only factor, there’s many. If your options are a bunch of 7s and one 9, you wouldn’t want to pass on that.
/r/seduction06/08/26 06:56 PM
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They don’t say it when I ask for a number, they say it when I suggest we should meet. I ask for the number after they respond positively to making plans.
/r/seduction06/08/26 03:22 PM
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One of the comments here said “you’re not supposed to act hard to get until after we met” I used it once so far and it worked. Surely, some might be the way you described, but others might just be giving you a shit test to weed out those who will start acting either desperate or angry.
/r/seduction06/08/26 03:21 PM
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>3 messages isn't enough for many women to give out their number. Absolutely is, I’m getting a dozen phone numbers a day doing that sometimes. I used to have a 5-7 message sequence I used before, but then moved to a bigger city when I get way more matches and switched it to a shorter, more efficient one. Any message you use, if sent to enough people will have responses all across the board, some are gonna be positive, some are gonna be negative. That is normal as people are all different and lon…
/r/seduction06/08/26 06:32 AM
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You get it. At some point it helps to have some thing in place to weed out the time wasters. And yes, I am just looking for best possible ways of responding to that one specific type of message as I got all other aspects of OLD working pretty well.
/r/seduction06/08/26 06:16 AM
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You’re assuming the messages are low quality as if there aren’t any women on the apps purely for validation/attention who are asking for additional efforts just to see what lengths you’re willing to go for a chance to meet them, for their ego. Literally any message you can think of, if sent to large enough amount of people will have a pretty wide spectrum of responses.
/r/seduction06/08/26 06:13 AM
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I didn’t say that ALL hotter girls weren’t responding positively, I said that the girls giving me the “I could be convinced” messages tend to be on the hotter side. That doesn’t mean there aren’t other girls also on the hotter side who do respond positively to all my messages. I’m trying to solve a very particular problem here, hence why I’m asking how to respond to this one specific message and not “hot to get hotter girls”. I only mentioned that those girls were usually pretty hot, so people d…
/r/seduction06/08/26 06:08 AM
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Well, when looking for those hottest girls you’re gonna come across loads of profiles that are “hot enough” if your likes are unlimited, might as well like those too. You never know, some of them might shoot you a 2am come over text, some of them can have crazy head game, some might trick on you or cook for you, etc. It’s nice to keep girls who treat you like a king so you don’t forget who you are when talking to the smoking hot baddies.
/r/seduction06/08/26 06:03 AM
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Well yes, but that’s just how the logistics of swiping work. I actually have pretty narrow preferences for who I’d actually go in a date with given that I’m not willing to do that more than twice a week. I have to swipe through a hundred profiles to see a girl who actually meets them and when doing so, I come across loads girls who I also find attractive, just not enough to put work in, so having unlimited likes I give those a like too in case they’d be willing to make things exceptionally easy …
/r/seduction04/08/26 08:17 PM
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Well I do get a lot of matches, so having a hyper personalized conversation with each one would be impossible, even the three back and forth messages to get the phone number feels like a lot of work when followed by then having continue talking through text to make plans. So trying to do something that would just work with anyone.
/r/seduction04/08/26 01:18 PM
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I have a good profile in a huge metropolis and pay premium subscription with unlimited likes, which I’m taking full advantage of by spending a lot of time daily liking girls. That is to say I get a very high volume of matches I can’t possibly have a 15 message long conversation with. My current messaging strategy usually works, except for the example described above. So I’m looking for advice on that exact very specific scenario rather than texting game in general, respectfully.
/r/seduction04/08/26 04:51 AM
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Fact the more people are becoming aware of the fact same persons dating value would be perceived differently in different regions, doesn’t mean that significant enough amounts of people are actually moving somewhere purely because of that. Things like immigration laws, visas, work/residence permits, travel costs, langue barriers, assimilation difficulties, etc are still very much factors. Not even to mention that countries outside of first world ones generally have pretty shitty economies and yo…
/r/BlackPillScience22/01/26 04:40 PM
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So you’re trying to say that A) Most white men DO prefer Asian women? I get that many wouldn’t mind dating Asian or don’t care about race, but to have Asian as a preference? For majority of white men? Yea nah. B) Asian women alleged preference for white men can still somehow affect anyone even if there aren’t any white people around? How can these dynamics possibly exist somewhere without different races living together?
/r/BlackPillScience22/01/26 04:25 PM
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There’s levels to this, white people are not all equally white. They aren’t all seen as the same and don’t all share the same extent of perks. You claimed central Asians and some Arabs where “white as fuck”, are any of them blonde? Ginger? Color eyed? Pale? They’re bare minimum white at best, quit pretending. Either way, when dudes cry about white women’s preferences for their own race, those aren’t the women they cry about. And chances are, if you’re central Asian or Arab yourself, you wouldn’t…
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 08:56 PM
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Yea, if you wanna count those go ahead, they’re not white to the real whites. Even Eastern Europeans don’t get treated like fully white in the west unless they grew up there, those groups are not even from Europe at all, neither are they Christian or white culturally. Also if you wanna look at it in the context of dating, those are also not the white girl types that people fetishize.
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 08:24 PM
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Actually just looked it up, whites only make up 10-12% of global population, which is way more rare than one in six, your math is wrong.
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 08:12 PM
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Lol, yes? All of different nationalities of white people combined are still gonna be less than the Chinese or the Indians alone. One in six men in US is six feet and above, yet women get slandered for having that preference because it’s too rare.
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 08:09 PM
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Oxford study is largely a myth and even if true, white men don’t all prefer Asian women. Either way, these dynamics only exist in diverse areas and can be escaped by moving somewhere where you are the majority.
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 03:37 PM
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Perhaps because it’s expected that most people date within their race, in which case race becomes irrelevant because your competition as well as your target in that case are the same race as you. But also it might just be too sensitive of a topic for some, idk.
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 04:05 AM
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And? As if everyone is owned access to white women. They’re the most desired ones, obv they’d be the pickiest too. Y’all know that white people are globally rare?
/r/BlackPillScience18/01/26 03:48 AM
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Well I don’t want to be doing fine lol, I’m kinda used to be doing good, so “fine” would be a downgrade. That’s what the post is about. Definitely don’t think I’ll ever go celibate, less successful? Unfortunately seems plausible.
/r/seduction17/01/26 10:50 PM
1

Idk, I also just feel like talking to girls one on one vs in let’s say party setting are different skills. They way others feel about you matters a lot and I’m just never the most popular guy in the rooom, but give me your undivided attention on a date for an hour or two and I’ll do all the right things.
/r/seduction17/01/26 10:48 PM
1

They can also go on sex positive apps like Feeld where people are open and forward about their specific desires, but it doesn’t seem to very popular
/r/seduction17/01/26 10:46 PM
1

Well hopefully it fades before I’m old and unfuckable
/r/seduction17/01/26 10:45 PM
1

Well how many of these women stick around to be their fwbs vs how many stop hooking up soon as they understand it’s not going anywhere? I also still am hooking up with new girls fairly often, but I can’t just booty call any of them afterwards and expect them to show up, they’re just not on that type of time anymore it seems.
/r/seduction17/01/26 10:44 PM
2

Oh boy. Happens to me all the time. All this talk about wanting to “build something first” meanwhile I don’t even know how I feel about them because idk how they are in bed and I’ve never even seen them naked. Worst part is that these hard to get girls are almost never amazing at sex, they just have lower sex drives hence why they’re able to resist the temptation. They’re just not gonna be all that crazy once it comes to it.
/r/seduction17/01/26 10:35 PM
2

Well, I’m not worried about ever not being able to pull women. I am however worried that having my preferred type of love life will become so difficult it’ll no longer be efficient. I average between 30-40 new hookups depending on the year, if everyone becomes super wholesome all of a sudden, those numbers are gonna be very hard to achieve, but that’s what I’m used to so anything less would feel like a downgrade.
/r/seduction17/01/26 10:31 PM
2

To few are single while still being attractive. The ones I met I def had great times with, but they’re too few and far in between.
/r/seduction17/01/26 10:14 PM
1

But are they hooking up more than millennials did? Because if they don’t, then I’m still right about the hookup culture being in decline. Unfortunately.
/r/seduction17/01/26 10:13 PM
4

Well, I won’t say I have it hard, but the efficiency is just not there. I sleep with new women more often now than ever before, but the ratio of first dates/sex is worse than it’s ever been. I just go on A LOT of dates these days because I’ve improved my dating profile a lot. But most of these dates don’t really go anywhere sexual on the first night because of how wholesome everyone has gotten. It’s just a huge time sucker and doesn’t feel super efficient. Also less and less girls I hookup with …
/r/seduction17/01/26 10:12 PM
1

But yea, I definitely see the healthier choices trend, especially amongst gen z. When millennials were young it was cool to be a degenerate which definitely made casual sex easier, now I’m the drunkest at all parties and I’m not even that drunk.
/r/seduction17/01/26 10:07 PM
3

Well, that’d still require her getting dressed, physically commuting to a bar, arranging for her friends to come with her as she’s not likely to want to do that alone. All that effort while still running the risk of not liking any of the 20 dudes that will be kicking it at that bar. Online she’s got hundreds of dudes to choose from, most of whom will agree should she tell them to come over.
/r/seduction17/01/26 10:05 PM
2

Yea, I feel like it’s also more common for dudes now to put a lot of effort in their profiles and pay for unlimited likes and stuff making it a hyper competitive environment. So these said women are getting even more likes and the guys sending them look better too. Little do they know the bottom half of my matches aren’t even ever getting a date, just a booty call take it or leave it. And I’m not even a Chad.
/r/seduction17/01/26 10:02 PM
9

Definitely noticing people wanting to meet in person, but do they actually do it? Plus what you’re describing is still probably more relevant for relationships than hookups, not sure how many girls these days are going out hoping to sleep with someone that very night. If you want to have sex with a new dude tonight, the apps are probably still the best way to do it, though the number of people who are into that sorta thing seems to decline.
/r/seduction17/01/26 09:57 PM
3

So in other words, yes, it is getting harder. It takes a lot more effort to get to the point where you’re considered something between friendship and romance than it takes to simply hookup. You can only do it with so many girls at the same time too, so it seems like the numbers are about to go down.
/r/seduction17/01/26 09:48 PM
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Yea, but a lot of women are also way less open to being approached, no? Obviously you’ll always gonna be able to have sex as human biology isn’t about to change overnight, but how many of these girls are gonna be responding to booty calls and being ok with just fwb arrangements? Especially if they’re very hot.
/r/seduction17/01/26 09:45 PM
8

Not too much. The caliber of a woman I seem to be able to attract online, for whatever reason, seem to way higher than the caliber of a woman I ever even meet in person. Maybe it’s because I’m poor so I just don’t cross path with the hot girls organically because I can’t afford the venues they frequent or neighbourhoods they live in.
/r/seduction17/01/26 09:41 PM
3

The absolute lack of understanding of male experience is astonishing. You can’t begin building a connection without getting your foot in the door first, period. That’s most of what this sub is about. For some it’s a cold approach, for others it’s the apps or social circle, for this guy it happened to be weed. You can’t “build a connection” with someone who doesn’t know you exist or is never going to meet you or give you the time of their day. Most need a way in.
/r/seduction17/01/26 08:58 PM
1

It’s different for everyone, you gotta find what works for you. Though if you don’t have good pictures, or don’t know what good pictures are supposed to look like, that right there is a good place to start.
/r/seduction13/01/26 10:34 PM
1

Yea, typo
/r/seduction13/01/26 06:59 PM
3

So same, interesting
/r/seduction13/01/26 02:57 PM
1

That is an interesting way of looking at it, though I will add that a decent number of these women are attractive, obviously, otherwise I wouldn’t match with them in the first place. My dating life has been largely dependent on me trying to hack the fabric of online dating and I think I was able to achieve great results, so kinda wanna keep on doing that tbh.
/r/seduction13/01/26 08:44 AM
2

I’m in my late twenties, but I’ve not been watching corn since teenage years. Good looking teenagers do exist but for a 30+ adult man to find a 22+ woman who looks like an Instagram model he will need either money or to be crazy attractive. And? You know that some men DO have money and that some ARE attractive, right? Once again, you don’t seem to have any idea of what men actually want, many of those girls, who’s pictures are being used for scams, don’t even look like crazy hot insta models, ra…
/r/seduction13/01/26 07:16 AM
1

Just because that’s what YOU need to achieve it, doesn’t mean there aren’t any women out there born with that. I myself have encountered all of the things I’ve mentioned in the women I’ve been with, neither of whom are likely to have had any work done due to their age, background, personality type, priorities, etc. I'm bringing it up exactly because you men don't get it cause you look but you don't know what you're looking at. As if we only ever see women on the internet and have never seen a be…
/r/seduction13/01/26 06:59 AM
2

Except for hair and nails is just packaging, it’s not what makes you beautiful. What makes you beautiful is mostly genetics, like facial symmetry, healthy weight, good body proportions like hip to waist ratio and nicely shaped breasts, etc. No amount of money spent on beauty can fix that, gym can fix some, but only to an extent. No one was talking about money btw, why are you even bringing it up?
/r/seduction13/01/26 06:15 AM
1

Afford who? Models? Are you trying to say not a single one of them has ever fucked someone for free?
/r/seduction13/01/26 05:54 AM
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Y’all need to chill talking about “unrealistic standards” as if images they use for these bits are all AI, those women, who’s pictures are being used for scams, do exist somewhere and someone is sleeping with them, so someone else can probably get a chance too. Same with models and insta girls. “Men don’t want real women anymore” Those ARE real women, they do exist.
/r/seduction13/01/26 03:11 AM
2

Reason I quit tinder here in LA about two years ago, number of fake profiles I had to filter through made it no longer be efficient to use. Plus it’s way less popular than Hinge these days it feels like.
/r/seduction13/01/26 03:07 AM
1

Perfect relationship, if only they all knew that the girls inviting you over are the only ones having you genuinely look forward to see them, while the others are being seen as a chore. Which one do you think will last longer?
/r/seduction10/01/26 03:41 PM
0

I don’t get asked about it more often than not, in most cases I’ll sleep with a woman before any serious topic like this even comes up.
/r/seduction09/01/26 09:05 PM
3

Though they’ll be a lot more likely to be cool with it once they realize that’s what you’ve already been for sometime without verbalizing it and that it’s not as bad as everyone makes it out to be.
/r/seduction09/01/26 08:39 PM
1

A date maybe, dates as in multiple - definitely not.
/r/seduction09/01/26 07:35 AM
32

I mean you’re not lying by simply not bringing something up, if it’s important enough for them, they should be the ones to ask
/r/seduction09/01/26 05:24 AM
168

You don’t ever verbalize it, you hookup, then just only ever go to each others places to hangout for one reason or another until it becomes the norm and they stop expecting anything other than that.
/r/seduction09/01/26 05:19 AM
3

My biggest fear right here, hope those were cheap dates
/r/seduction09/01/26 05:07 AM
3

Good one
/r/seduction09/01/26 05:06 AM
1

People oftentimes want what they can’t have, maybe subconsciously I think I’m not supposed to have girls like that knowing that their parents would probably be super against it, idk But there’s plenty examples of that amongst different groups of people.
/r/seduction09/01/26 05:06 AM
5

Bro how did you even end up on a subreddit like this
/r/seduction09/01/26 04:30 AM
3

well yea, I didn’t say raging leftist, I said left LEANING ideology is just not very high on the list of things I care about, but if I had to pick one, than yea probably left ish
/r/seduction09/01/26 04:28 AM
1

Did you even read the post man, who said anything about Instagram? You can oftentimes see people’s political views and religious beliefs on hinge and I found those to very common amongst the demographic I’m after
/r/seduction09/01/26 04:26 AM
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Once I got what I wanted I usually don’t mind seeing each other again and again but don’t care too much whether or not it’ll actually happen. Def not looking to actually date someone in a serious enough way for values to even be brought up let alone become a problem.
/r/seduction09/01/26 03:54 AM
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Cause way too many of them happened to be my type looks wise, not really looking for anything more serious than a fwb, I’m too broke to date ppl for real anyway. Been that way forever, approaching 200 bodies never been even remotely close to meeting someone’s family.
/r/seduction09/01/26 03:46 AM
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Idk, one of my last hookups had a bible quote in her ig bio but I didn’t see it until after, we also never touched on those topics as I’m always trying to keep the conversation fun and playful, so it’s easier to escalate compared to if it was deep and serious.
/r/seduction09/01/26 03:44 AM
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Yea I def feel like for many of them being religious is rather about tribalism than actual morals, but I’m not sure how to tell which is which. Those girls also tend to stay kinda far away in rich suburbs, so stakes are with them as I don’t want to waste all of that time and gas to meet a prude, you get me?
/r/seduction09/01/26 03:13 AM
1

I don’t think anyone can answer that question honestly without knowing the extent of what you’re actually working with. Style was bold, RSD Todd is short, I bet mots can name men they’ve personally who seem to have it good with women despite having a feature or two that aren’t considered attractive, though strongly believe it depends a lot on the severity of those features as some are probably worse than others.
/r/seduction07/01/26 12:25 AM
1

🙋‍♂️ LA, mid/late twenties
/r/seduction04/01/26 04:19 AM
1

Definitely didn’t write this post to get advice on how to generate super obvious AI slop
/r/seduction01/01/26 04:20 AM
1

I mean, I’ve had about 40 hookups this year alone mostly from apps, so whatever my model is definitely works for me. It’s just that the quality of the people I meet isn’t going to improve unless my pictures will. So I’ve been stuck sleeping with girls of more or less the same level for the past three years of using the above mentioned picture as my main one. It’s not the worst situation to be in of course, but I would prefer the women I meet to be getting more attractive as I’m improving my dati…
/r/seduction31/12/25 02:26 AM
1

Yea I actually have friends who are photographers I asked to take pictures of me, they turned out great as far as clothing, lighting, setting, colors etc, but as far my facial expression I was kinda frozen, didn’t have the right “vibe”, I just can’t do it on command. Whenever I upload it to bumble (I use other apps to, but bumbles the only one that actually tells you WHICH photo it’s choosing to put first when you turn on the smart photos picture), after a couple hours I get a notification that …
/r/seduction31/12/25 02:05 AM
1

How can you give me advice if you don’t know my goals? Advice for achieving what?
/r/seduction22/11/25 07:46 PM
5

I’m in my twenties, that’s where young people drink. Besides, it first my aesthetic, which they liked me based on since they’re all from dating apps and I also go on a lot of first dates all the time, so even those two drinks at a dive bar add up overtime.
/r/seduction22/11/25 07:44 PM
1

It’s pretty warm where I live most of the year, so it’s usually gonna be a shirt and pants, nothing crazy flashy but just good quality pieces that fit me well size wise and works good with my body proportions, I would juggle between vintage, workwear or streetwear aesthetic depending on the girl. I accessorize with watches, chains, rings and keys. I had my outfits and overall aesthetic complimented by my dates many times. I live in LA right now, so that sort of thing is very important. Almost al…
/r/seduction22/11/25 07:01 PM
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I’m not convinced anything of what I said is 100% true, but that’s what’s been my experience and I’ve been going for at least one first date a week for many years now.
/r/seduction22/11/25 06:47 PM
1

Same stuff I wear on my pictures since that’s what they liked me based off. I wouldn’t mind wearing other things if I got women sexually excited but that’s just not exactly how it works since attraction isn’t as visual for women as it is for us men. Trust me, if there was a male equivalent of a mini skirt, I would only ever leave the house wearing exactly that lmao
/r/seduction22/11/25 06:45 PM
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Yes they are hot as fuck, but it’s not about meeting some kind of bare minimum hotness requirement, it’s about having the hottest experience possible. So if there’s something they can do to look even hotter, of course I’m gonna wish they did, why wouldn’t I? I mean, it’s not a requirement, it’s just a wish
/r/seduction22/11/25 06:41 PM
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Have you ever considered that if you invite someone over for sex, doing something that’ll make its more exciting experience for them would probably result in the whole thing being a better experience for you as well? Doesn’t have to be some expensive uncomfortable lingerie either, even just booty short with a mini top would already make you stand out from all the other girls who look like they’re about to go on a seven hour flight. Also how tf did I make them feel uncomfortable? When did I say t…
/r/seduction22/11/25 06:10 PM
2

Idk, in my experience when they make sex very easy for you they are less likely to be nice to you otherwise. When I get invited over for sex, they always wear sweatpants or pajamas or whatever, never anything hot. Then you get ghosted with no explanation soon as they no longer feel like doing this anymore
/r/seduction22/11/25 05:27 PM
8

Idk bro, if I were to pull up stats for how many of my dates looked slutty vs how many acted slutty, I would unfortunately have a case. Unless those revealing clothes get me too excited as I fumble them all as a result.
/r/seduction22/11/25 05:19 PM
1

Idk dude, women don’t usually give it up immediately to dudes they want to be in a actual relationship with, if anything they’re only more likely to withhold intimacy in that scenario so that you see them as a relationship material too. Had plenty hookups with girls I had JUST met or haven’t even met yet and just got invited from a dating app straight to theirs, I doubt any of them were looking for boyfriends or seeing me as a candidate. I really doubt your approach is as efficient as you think.
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:01 PM
3

Definitely done both, but it’s not preferable for me, I like to be comfortable
/r/seduction24/10/25 02:18 AM
2

When I offer to pick them up I ask for the address and see if it’s a house or a apartment, if it’s a house - they live at home so if I don’t currently have a spot available I’ll just cancel lmao
/r/seduction24/10/25 01:16 AM
3

I move a lot, some spots I can have girls over, some I can’t, was never an issue though. I always prefer going back to theirs as girls always have living situations way nicer than what I can afford. Just offer to pick them up for a date, they usually agree and it gives me an excuse to come back to theirs afterwards.
/r/seduction24/10/25 12:22 AM
1

Yea, I’m mostly after the white girls, still def had my share of mulholand drive car sessions, but it’s rather rare
/r/seduction23/10/25 08:41 PM
3

Lol WHAT. I am convinced LA has a severe shortage of hot girls who are down to earth.
/r/seduction23/10/25 08:37 PM
3

Mind elaborating on what region you’re in? Small town/big city? I’m in LA, girls are too preppy and think too highly of themselves here. They come here from all over chasing their dream LA life and it just doesn’t involve getting dicked down in the backseat of my old bucket with wheels.
/r/seduction23/10/25 07:56 PM
8

Probability of that highly depends on your location and age group. In my experience, it’s easier to get into the girls place than it is to move her from the front seat to the back. I can just ask to come upstairs to use the restroom when dropping her off after a date, then take it from there. Meanwhile, moving into the backseat has a clear implication of “you’re about to get fucked in a car” which can activate their anti slut defenses.
/r/seduction23/10/25 07:23 PM
18

Exactly, women have such a big choice on the apps, if they go out with you you’ve already won against hundreds of men. Though might also just be that OP doesn’t have proper logistics set up for escalation and moving things to his/their place.
/r/seduction23/10/25 07:02 PM
139

You sound like the women who say “where are the men looking for a relationship? all they want is just sex!” They’re not low or high interest, they have low or high interest in YOU. You can already get dates - good. Now work on your act.
/r/seduction23/10/25 06:44 PM
1

Yes, if 1) you are getting at least some results without a premium version 2) your lifestyle actually allows you to spend loads of time swiping to take full advantage of the unlimited likes Just remember that it can’t make women like you any more, it can only show you to more women. So if there’s women out there who find you attractive based on your profile, their number will increase if you get those premium perks.
/r/seduction23/10/25 03:00 PM
1

What about progressive cities/spaces? As a white dude I always wondered if ethnic guys get the advantage of having girls be scared to blow the off immediately out of fear they might come off racist, so that should at least win you some time.
/r/seduction22/10/25 09:35 PM
4

They’re in COLLEGE. If they’re old enough to study rocket science, they’re old enough to know who they want to fuck, long as it’s done respectfully there’s nothing weird about it. Men of all ages prefer women in their early-mid twenties, it’s biological.
/r/seduction22/10/25 08:57 AM
1

My steak is too juicy and my lobster is too buttery. I’m the same age, yet for some reason seem to mostly get girls around my age. Yes, they’re smarter, but not in the fun way. Early twenties are generally a better time, you just have to try not to cringe sometimes. Appreciate your blessings.
/r/seduction20/08/25 10:53 PM
1

I viewed porn as a teenager all the time, but aroumd early-mid twenties, once I got good enough to pull girls I actually find hot, their social media and my memories of them started to slowly replace porn. Rubbing one out to a picture/memory of someone while actually knowing what their pussy feels like is just so much better, like it’s a way more comprehensive experience. I would still dabble into porn here and there, but these recent years I’ve really started noticing the negative effects it ha…
/r/seduction20/08/25 02:11 AM
1

Yea, unfortunately. I find women in their thirties to be easier than ones in late twenties, but they’re few and far between
/r/seduction31/07/25 12:53 AM
1

Anywhere in their twenties, mostly towards the middle/late twenties as that’s the age I am. Occasional 30 something year olds
/r/seduction31/07/25 12:44 AM
1

that too
/r/seduction31/07/25 12:37 AM
1

So all of the people you’ve slept with have been from actual dates? I get not wanting to go out with every single person you’ve exchanged numbers with, I don’t do that either. I just select the ones I’m most interested in and am actually willing to put a little effort in and try to take them out on dates. Everyone else still gets an invitation to come over if they want, which has a low success rate but still works sometimes. That way the effort I’ve already spent on swiping and messaging to get …
/r/seduction30/07/25 11:13 PM
1

In my experience it’s best to choose one that you have the most motion in and focus on it.
/r/seduction30/07/25 10:53 PM
3

I believe is culture in general, it’s becoming way less sexual, the excitement is down, you no longer see half naked women in advertisement as much, people no longer care for things that used to be provocative not so long ago. Dating apps have been around for a minute now and hookups are no longer exciting. Girls just know it’s there if they want it and they kinda go “meh”. I’m young enough to occasionally still meet girls in their earliest twenties and even they are overwhelmingly on some tryna…
/r/seduction30/07/25 10:27 PM
1

Like “body count”? Somewhere under 160, I started kinda late so def missed out on 1-2 years of peak hookup culture when people were still excited about dating apps. It’s getting harder every year.
/r/seduction30/07/25 10:16 PM
1

I do, though definition of what a good picture is changes every few years. My current ones are starting to get old and I can’t seem to take any new ones that’ll outperform them. The ones I have rn are also taken abroad, which is always a big plus, but I haven’t had an opportunity to travel lately.
/r/seduction30/07/25 10:13 PM
1

Wym by total in this context?
/r/seduction30/07/25 10:10 PM
1

I can’t tell if you’re being ironic, but yes, unless you look like greek god, you can only pull consistently through buying a premium subscription and spending loads of time taking advantage of the unlimited likes.
/r/seduction30/07/25 09:32 PM
1

80 is nothing, if I could get even just a date for every 80 swipes I’d have like three a day fs
/r/seduction30/07/25 09:13 PM
2

Def not anywhere near a 9, I’m just dedicated if not obsessed. Going on a four first date in a row tonight and the last three didn’t end in sex. I have a cool profile, premium subscription and a job that allows me to spend hours on my phone every day liking tons of girls. Looks wise I’m tall and slim, so have that going for me, but otherwise I have bad teeth, asymmetrical face, no blue eyes, thick beard, super sharp jawline or any of those gigachad traits. Just a tall dude who’s not fat and I gu…
/r/seduction30/07/25 09:12 PM
2

Def don’t have money or prospects of getting a lot of it before I’m no longer young. Rotation is preferred, but hard, as you said girls start to want more and I’m just not into that. Believe it or not I have a fun life outside of dating and in any given day there’s loads of things I’d rather do than to spend time with someone I would never hangout with had they not been hot.
/r/seduction30/07/25 09:07 PM
1

Fascinating! How exactly do you conduct those tests with your profile and chat gpt? I always thought shirtless pictures are a turnoff, but maybe I should try. I’m pretty skinny so any muscle I put on is immediately visible, not hard to get in shape.
/r/seduction30/07/25 09:03 PM
1

I wish
/r/seduction30/07/25 06:39 PM
1

About to start pushing 30 so yea, it’s starting to get harder. I used to catch 40 bodies a year back when I was younger and tinder was still popular, hinge is more labour, but at least it works for me and women are way better on average.
/r/seduction30/07/25 06:05 PM
2

Not too many, most of the time I have a premium subscription and spend loads of time every day swiping, so all my potential matches will see me in their likes rather than in the card stack. When I don’t have a premium subscription, most I get anywhere between zero and two likes a day, but it’s pretty random. I can get no likes for days then get like 5 in one days. About half the girls that like me I consider at least somewhat attractive, occasionally genuinely hot.
/r/seduction30/07/25 04:21 PM
1

When I pick them up for the first date, I always park and get out of the car before texting them that I’ve arrived. I do it to give them a hug upon meeting and so they can see how tall I am, it naturally leads to me opening the door but I never really thought about it.
/r/seduction30/07/25 04:06 PM
2

I’m strongly against being suggestive on the apps because they’re my only source of women and being banned, or even reported, leading to the decline in the algorithms, is literally my biggest fear. That being said though, how do you screen for the more sex positive ones? I’m experience you sometimes can never tell. I had the most innocent looking girls agree to come over on the first link and had the seemingly sluttiest ones not put out after two dates.
/r/seduction30/07/25 03:49 PM
2

You can escalate quickly, to make those not interested in hooking up bow out. Such as asking quite early if they like massage. It need be vanilla enough that you're not breaching TOS. Ugh, not sure that’ll work for the kinda guy I am. I look kinda rough, which I think is good as it makes me appear more masculine, but I feel like things like that would appear to be way more creepy coming from me compared to lets say some golden retriever type guy. I have no idea what my stats are, but when I use …
/r/seduction30/07/25 01:41 PM
2

Yea, I don’t keep track of how many matches turn into conversations, then dates and hookups, but I imagine it’d be somewhat similar except for the matches/conversations ratio would probably be better as I’m only using hinge. Women are far less responsive in swiping based apps like tinder and bumble in my experience. Dates/hookups ratio is about the same though it used to be way better in my early twenties with 2/3 if not 3/4 dates ending is sex. Which is crazy to me cuz I was kinda ugly back the…
/r/seduction30/07/25 01:21 PM
3

To have the best possible roster. A good variety of attractive players omen consistently available to me sexually. Not all out of 34 are equally hot and not all of the hottest ones are open to just continue hooking up without going on a date first. Even the ones who are only last so long before they start to want more or just fizzle out, so you gotta always keep looking for new ones. They’re never yours, it’s just your turn.
/r/seduction30/07/25 01:16 PM
7

Yea, white. I’m also mostly after white girls though
/r/seduction30/07/25 01:10 PM
0

I probably have premium subscription like two thirds of the time and my job allows me to be in my phone for hours every day so I take full advantage of unlimited likes
/r/seduction30/07/25 04:56 AM
1

Depends on your lifestyle I guess. My job allows me to spend hours a day on the phone, otherwise I’d be right there with you.
/r/seduction30/07/25 12:57 AM
7

I’m a man, I’m in charge, I can just plan cheap dates. Take them to a bar that only has a license for beer and wine, so they can’t order fancy cocktails that’ll bankrupt you. Two drinks with a tip will be like $25 tops. I only do one round, then take them to the beach or somewhere more intimate so we can make out and I can pump up the buying temperature before suggesting we move this some place more private. I live in LA and can still afford it with a basically minimum wage job.
/r/seduction30/07/25 12:55 AM
12

All you need to know is that I’m 6’4
/r/seduction29/07/25 09:55 PM
1

I see those as more of activities rather than hobbies. Mine have been with me since long before girls, things I’m genuinely and deeply passionate about and am know and respected within the community of, wouldn’t trade that for just a little more pussy. I hear you though. Do you have any very specific preferences you filter by? I only like certain body types and hair colors and feel like I can somewhat afford having these preferences on the apps, but not so sure about real life
/r/seduction29/07/25 09:46 PM
5

I got friends and hobbies and stuff I’d call touching grass, but yea going on hinge dates is the only way in which I ever cross paths with single women around my age I find attractive. It’s just hard logistically, hot girls are all rich and from good families, they live in nice parts of the city that are far away from ones I can afford. I’m not driving there unless I already have someone lined up.
/r/seduction29/07/25 09:37 PM
2

What does your profile look like/what kinda city region you live in? Mine would be not too bad in most places, but I’m also in LA where it’s almost laughable. People’s social media game here is insane
/r/seduction29/07/25 09:28 PM
0

Wow this is very relevant, thanks 👍
/r/seduction29/07/25 09:19 PM
0

ugh, so the answer is more matches then, more people to talk to, feels like a job at this point
/r/seduction29/07/25 09:16 PM
16

Not complaining for sure. The amount of effort it takes is unsustainable though. I got a job that allows me to be on my phone for hours a day, which helps, but as you can imagine this job doesn’t pay very well and I wouldn’t want to keep it forever. Don’t want to compromise my sex life either, so looking for ways to optimise this process. Hence the post.
/r/seduction29/07/25 09:15 PM
9

Kinda both tbh Women: Younger girls are impressed by this as they’re oftentimes just exploring and not looking for anything long term yet, even the ones looking for a relationship are more likely to be open to other things along the way. Older girls are more likely to be less flexible about what kinda arrangement they’re willing to get into and having a reputation for being ran through makes you seem like a waste of their time since you’re seen as unlikely to actually commit. Men: Having success…
/r/seduction28/07/25 09:01 PM
9

below mid twenties - yes, above mid twenties - no or at least that’s been my experience so far
/r/seduction28/07/25 08:45 PM
1

I would sacrifice quite a few inches just to slightly enhance (or obtain) some other conventionally attractive features like a super sharp jawline or perfect teeth, etc. And I’m not even ugly
/r/BlackPillScience27/07/25 05:52 PM
1

People who genuinely delusional enough to think it’s a real life cheat code are the same one believing a few extra inches is all they’re missing to be a pro ball player
/r/BlackPillScience27/07/25 05:47 PM
1

It’s like being in a professional sports league, for a regular person it’s beyond their wildest dreams, meanwhile you have to experience it to know how hard it actually is. Not everyone is gonna be the champ.
/r/BlackPillScience27/07/25 05:37 PM
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6’4 guy here, it’s not a cheat code and that is because of all the same reasons OP has listed. Vast majority of attractive women simply only ever go the 6 foot + men, therefore when you’re on a date with one, you get zero special treatment as your height (which supposed to be a rare and highly desirable attractive feature) is taken for granted. You don’t stand out as they’ve likely never even been on a date with someone who isn’t tall. Because of dating apps it’s become more of a bare minimum re…
/r/BlackPillScience26/07/25 11:41 PM
1

No I don’t do any of those things or at least they’re not a part of my everyday life. There aren’t any women in my line of work and the only densely populated areas with loads of foot traffic in my city are very ghetto and don’t have attractive women in them, rest is all very car dependent. It’s very segregated and the only areas you can frequently see attractive women are wealthy ones that I neither live or work in, so yes, I have to make a conscious effort to go there as it doesn’t just happen…
/r/seduction11/07/25 04:37 PM
1

Yes, however I just imagine it being a lot easier to get into cold approaching when you’re out with a group of friends you can come back to after every unsuccessful approach so you’re not just standing there alone after being rejected. I assume pushing each other to actually go approach people would also be helpful with overcoming the approach anxiety, you can turn it into a competition too. Basically I imagine it actually being fun this way as opposed to doing it by yourself if you’re a beginne…
/r/seduction11/07/25 04:25 PM
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Dude must be doing something terribly wrong. I have a lot of experience with Scandinavian women due to the fact they’re physically my favorite ones and I go for them specifically. I’ve had dates with them go very bad and still end up in sex, they’d be like “well, I don’t like talking to you, let’s see if I’ll like ducking you at least”
/r/seduction10/07/25 11:41 PM
-3

Scandinavians not being sexually open is wild. They might be down with pda due to being kinda shy, almost awkward sometimes, but it’s a very sex positive culture. Hookups are super normalised, same as first date sex.
/r/seduction10/07/25 10:58 PM
2

I would imagine not constantly having it on your mind being quite difficult if you know you only have so many hours left in the city you’re in.
/r/seduction10/07/25 10:04 PM
2

How much thought are you putting into logistics though? Is there even an opportunity for a woman to sleep with you while maintaining plausible deniability in the settings you’re approaching them? I moved cities multiple times and it sometimes took me months to figure out a perfect first date that leads to sex smoothly, which I could then repeat with new girls over and over again. Always being in an unfamiliar city I could def see how that might be challenging.
/r/seduction10/07/25 10:01 PM
8

That’s fine. Italians are just one of many nationalities. I’ve hardly been with any Spaniards during years I’ve lived in spain and my sex life was amazing
/r/seduction09/07/25 11:35 PM
7

So basically like any city with loads of tourists/exchange students. Ones in Amsterdam seem wealthier than ones in southern Europe though, so maybe there’s too big of a disconnect for me given that I’m dirt poor
/r/seduction09/07/25 09:20 PM
6

Are you actually Dutch though? I’ve had by far the lowest success ration with Dutch women out of all ethnicities I actively went after. Always felt like the Dutch just don’t fw foreigners the long way, everyone I knew who studied abroad over there said they used to mostly hang with other foreigners even though there’s no language barrier with the locals as all Dutchies speak near perfect English.
/r/seduction09/07/25 09:07 PM
6

Amsterdam?! Fr?! What do you look like
/r/seduction09/07/25 08:59 PM
12

Even Rome with all the Erasmus/Exchange students?
/r/seduction09/07/25 08:59 PM
1

how do you find those said communities? and what age group are most men in them?
/r/seduction07/07/25 09:56 PM
5

Nicely taken pictures having an interesting life, traveling different countries and doing cool hobbies I’m good at. Dress well, not just new clean clothing, but have a distinct aesthetic, “a brand” if you will. It’ll draw the girls who dig the vibe you’re going for, there’s plenty men’s fashion pages available for any aesthetic you want to pursue. Have social shot with people who appear to respect and admire you while looking presentable themselves, but not enough to take the shine away from you…
/r/seduction28/06/25 12:10 AM
1

It’s hard to give useful advice without knowing their circumstances, isn’t it? If the details I feel the need to share happen to make someone assume I might be doing good, well… I can’t think of a way to avoid that. But if you can, you are more than welcome to share that and I mean it genuinely.
/r/seduction27/06/25 11:56 PM
1

I don’t meet with people unless I think I have a good idea of what they must look like. Had actually met some people who looked better than their pics, but long time ago. Probably doesn’t happen anymore with how tough the competition have gotten and how curated everyone’s social media, and subsequently, dating profiles have become.
/r/seduction27/06/25 06:37 PM
4

Pretty much what I needed to hear, thanks. I guess I just swipe and talk to a broader demographic of people because if I only ever talked to the absolute hottest people I match with I will probably never get hookups without going on a date first and it feels nice to just get invited to someone’s place once in a while. They try a lot harder to please you too, always felt like it gives me more confidence I can then use to get hotter girls.
/r/seduction27/06/25 05:29 PM
1

I still find dating apps more efficient, especially for someone who doesn’t enjoy going out much. If I have let’s say two free nights each week, I’m a lot more likely to get laid going on a date with someone who I already know has chosen me out of hundreds of other men then just going somewhere randomly hoping there will be women I happen to like who happen to be single and also like me back. If I had enough time, money, energy to go out every single night, then sure, I’d do both. Not everyone’s…
/r/seduction27/06/25 05:22 PM
1

It’s about dating apps bro
/r/seduction27/06/25 04:51 PM
1

It’s about efficiency. I do a lot of swiping to get matches. I talk to a lot of matches to get numbers. I text a lot of numbers to get dates/hookups. Anything that helps to optimise this process and have those efforts not go to waste would be extremely helpful.
/r/seduction26/06/25 08:57 PM
15

Wasn’t “game” a lot more mainstream back in the day? Doesn’t seem to have impacted it that much, no?
/r/seduction12/06/25 08:46 PM
44

Aren’t men easy by default? Lol If I were you, I’d go for countries with less good looking women, or places where it’d be easy for you to stand out based on you appearance, being unique is always a huge plus. If you’re a petite brunette go to the Netherlands, Germany, Scandinavian countries. If you’re a tall blonde go to Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal. You get the idea.
/r/seduction02/06/25 11:53 PM
2

Almost all restaurants and many bars are hard to physically escalate in, which is why I prefer to have a slightly more intimate “in between” location where they’d feel comfortable making out, so I can pump up the buying temperature before going for the close. That way they’re already aroused when I suggest going back to mine or theirs, they’re acting on emotion and a positive response is more likely. It’s hard to have a super formal dinner date where you sit in front of each other with no opport…
/r/seduction02/06/25 11:33 PM
1

What’re you doing on this post anyway, considering it’s a seduction group I am probably not even half as sleazy as most here
/r/seduction30/05/25 11:44 PM
1

Where did I say anything hateful in regards to women? I’m so tired of these misogyny accusations, just because one is attracted more to some women than others based on their appearance doesn’t mean they’re going to treat them any differently. I’m not sure if everyone really lacks the bare minimum amount of intelligence to understand this not THAT nuanced concept or are you all just hunting for things to be offended by.
/r/seduction30/05/25 11:25 PM
1

Never lived with mine as an adult but had plenty complicated living situations making me unable to have people over. Yes, you definitely can. Especially if you’re driving. Just offer to pick them up, that’ll naturally lead you to drop them off back at theirs at the end of the night and if you’ve been playing your cards right, they’ll end up taking you home with them more often than not.
/r/seduction19/05/25 05:22 AM
2

Bartending isn’t that easy to get into if you live in a popular city, been a bouncer a few times, you don’t really get much of a chance to talk to anyone, let alone 10s
/r/seduction12/05/25 06:07 PM
1

So when they want to sleep with you, they will only be allowed to do so if you have an X amount of money and status? What’s the exact amount necessary then? And how do they check for it? These questions cannot be answered because it’s all bs In reality, your ability to convey whatever quality matters so much more than actually possessing it.
/r/seduction12/05/25 06:06 PM
1

If you had to rate every woman in the world from the least to the most attractive one, what would the top one be then?
/r/seduction12/05/25 06:01 PM
1

Literally why? If you’re a “premium” woman, who’s got an abundance of her own resources and you want sleep with a specific guy, you wouldn’t do that unless he “pays the premium price”? Why would you deny yourself something that you want? Especially if you already have made as far as material things go
/r/seduction12/05/25 05:55 PM
1

Some women are more attractive than others, thought it was commonplace in seduction communities to rate women long as they’re above a 6
/r/seduction11/05/25 03:51 PM
2

10s - the hottest of women, ones that can live good purely off their looks and have hot girl jobs available to them. Models, influencers, whether girls, etc
/r/seduction11/05/25 03:26 PM
2

Well, Style had it all made aside from being good at game (at first) he had a very decent job and lifestyle, was financially independent enough to dress well and be able to afford to frequent places where hot girls hang
/r/seduction11/05/25 03:25 PM
1

Too many people in these comments have a problem with me calling someone a ten, they’re saying tens don’t exist, etc Meanwhile I’m just talking about the hottest of women, whatever you want to call them, you all know what I mean
/r/seduction11/05/25 03:22 PM
1

Well I’m in LA right now, so there’s definitely plenty of them somewhere out there. Since moving here, I started getting way better gurls on average, but those rare extremely hot ones I used to sometimes get before LA, became much more rare and harder to even get an opportunity to shoot your shot with. Feels like being a ten in LA you live in such a different reality as far as ways you can earn a living, places you get invited to or just spend your time, you hardly ever even cross paths with wor…
/r/seduction11/05/25 03:06 PM
2

As much as I hate it I do like white girls the most, so probably not gonna be a passport bro unless I’m going to Scandinavia, where 10s are probably most common. But those countries are extremely expensive very difficult to move to permanently
/r/seduction11/05/25 02:55 PM
1

I never said I was, but I’ve definitely seen guys do better than me looking way worse
/r/seduction10/05/25 04:27 AM
1

Well, I want the perfect model girl lol Maybe after I get a few I’ll decide they’re overrated and start to prioritize other qualities, but that’s not where I am rn neither is it what this post is about
/r/seduction10/05/25 03:24 AM
1

Real 10s already have it
/r/seduction10/05/25 03:22 AM
2

Long term, probably yes. But do they not have fun on girls trips/in between relationships/during their “slut phase” like all other women? I don’t think so
/r/seduction10/05/25 03:13 AM
1

Ok, 9.5s then, whatever you want to call the best ones there is
/r/seduction10/05/25 03:08 AM
-1

If she looks like mia malkova I’ll be happy with what I can get
/r/seduction10/05/25 02:42 AM
1

Well, if I can figure out how to get them with enough consistency, would really care to keep them. That’s kinda how I’ve been dating my whole life anyway. Everything you said is kinda how I usually date anyway, if tens work the same way, which I’m sure they do, my main challenge must be the logistics. No tens just wandering around, they’re out there somewhere doing some rich people stuff whether or not they’re rich themselves.
/r/seduction10/05/25 02:23 AM
1

I’m sure that’s what most women’s idea of a 10/10 men would be, but I’m not sure how true this is for women who are themselves tens as they’re oftentimes got money of their own, whether it be their lucrative hot girl jobs, coming from a wealthy family or being a sugar baby. So they might be less likely to care about material things as much as they would about physical and emotional ones, they still have needs like companionship and sex. How many wealthy successful men had their wives cheat on th…
/r/seduction10/05/25 02:19 AM
3

Boom, now we’re talking
/r/seduction10/05/25 01:58 AM
24

Probably a lot. Now let’s focus on how to become a 5 that gets to bang instagram hotties as opposed to being one that doesn’t.
/r/seduction10/05/25 01:51 AM
2

Well, seems like a decent job, so not surprised
/r/seduction10/05/25 01:50 AM
1

Mind sharing what line of work are you in?
/r/seduction10/05/25 01:39 AM
1

What about those that are
/r/seduction10/05/25 01:39 AM
3

What was the context of y’all bumping into each other in the first place
/r/seduction10/05/25 01:38 AM
0

Once again, not sure how affordable/accessible the activities elites engage in are for a regular, let alone extremely poor dude Unless you know any specific ones, in which case I would absolutely love it for you to share
/r/seduction10/05/25 01:36 AM
5

Well, I live in LA, so they’re definitely somewhere close yet feel so far away
/r/seduction10/05/25 01:35 AM
4

That’s an interesting perspective! I guess I should’ve specified that I’m not actually looking for ig models specifically, I just used that as an example of what a “ten” would be. In my time dating I’ve encountered plenty girls with features I’d consider worthy of a ten, but hardly anyone having them all or even most. A girl, prettiest in the face, probably had a kinda average body otherwise, one with the craziest curves was probably not that pretty in the face, one with best boobs had kinda nar…
/r/seduction10/05/25 01:34 AM
2

Definitely not looking to do either of those things. Remember how you viewed them before having slept with one, that’s probably the mind state I’m in rn.
/r/seduction10/05/25 01:20 AM
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So not one instagram hottie has ever banged a dude that’s not a ten even once in her life? How many of the rich/successful/famous/powerful men are also young and attractive? I’m pretty sure they’re more rare than girls who just got lucky with genetics
/r/seduction10/05/25 01:17 AM
-36

Mentally, yes. Not read my post again and see when I said I was in my twenties
/r/seduction10/05/25 01:10 AM
3

I’d imagine so, but don’t seem to even get a chance to play, let alone win
/r/seduction10/05/25 01:10 AM
2

Well, that’s kinda the question I was asking in this post, how does one enter that social circle as someone regular on paper and how do you not look lower value in relation to all those rich “high status” trust fund kids
/r/seduction10/05/25 12:57 AM
1

Had some influencers and OF girls through dating apps, I never knew until later on though so unknowingly didn’t do anything different, it worked.
/r/seduction01/05/25 09:18 PM
1

Lol you think being over six feet will help you pull a mf influencer SO MUCH that your experience wouldn’t even be considered a valuable knowledge in any way?
/r/seduction01/05/25 09:04 PM
2

Commitment before sex is an unrealistic expectation, you want someone to buy a car they haven’t even test driven. You have to either be more selective with who you even let near you in a way that can lead to sex, so you’re not upset if it leads to just that, or consider men you’d normally look past, ones that would be lucky to have you and would agree such unfavourable arrangement aka commitment before sex.
/r/seduction19/04/25 08:02 PM
2

As a man I’ve many been accused of “ghosting” the people I’ve been seeing, when in reality I’ve just stopped actively reaching out. That usually happens with some, oftentimes tragic, things happening in my life which have nothing to do with whoever I’m seeing, but it’s hard to be entertaining some girls while your life is actively falling apart. Had they reached out, I definitely would’ve been honest about what I’m going through and probably would’ve appreciated them initiating contact quite a l…
/r/seduction18/04/25 09:29 PM
1

Had a good amount of Swedes and other Scandinavian expats when I lived in one of the warmer european countries. I am tall, though they definitely don’t care about it anywhere near as much as americans do, Don really have much else going for me, just charisma I guess but that’s something one can work on.
/r/seduction11/04/25 08:53 PM
7

That was my experience so far, you just can never tell. Women in their thirties tend to have higher sex drives though.
/r/seduction11/04/25 07:41 PM
4

Because it’s very progressive and feminist, women aren’t necessarily looking for relationships don’t feel shame for having hookups and one night stands which are totally normal.
/r/seduction11/04/25 07:27 PM
3

that part of europe is slutty af, shouldn’t be that hard, plus when you do get it it’s amazing since girls are absolutely gorgeous
/r/seduction11/04/25 05:40 PM
2

Wym? If one woman wants you, there will be others that want you too, you only really have to figure it out once, then it’s a matter of your personal choice how many you wanna maintain at once
/r/seduction08/04/25 09:22 PM
2

Lol, I feel like having a rotation makes me face rejection more often, because you’d only go for girls that are hotter than everyone who’s already in the rotation right now. Trying to put together the best rotation possible is obviously harder than just simply trying to get laid.
/r/seduction08/04/25 07:21 PM
5

How many of the women who think you’re looking for a relationship are sleeping with you in the first date? Because if you have to do multiple dates with every single one because of them not rushing since they thing it’ll go on for awhile, that just sounds like sooo much work
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:29 AM
1

Those statistics probably don’t account for every woman’s level of attractiveness and whether or not they live in a big city. I think hot girls, which is who we are after, are less concerned with being perceived as a slut because everyone around puts them on the pedestal. They simply aren’t worried about those things as everyone will treat them better than others anyway. If you’re interested in practicing seduction, I assume you must live in a big city, so people date and shop around a lot more …
/r/seduction13/03/25 01:14 AM
5

In my experience it’s either one’s raised religious or recent divorcees who got married too young and never got to explore. I met them all on the apps, however there seems to be no way of telling which ones are that way based off their profile alone, you just have to go through A LOT of women. If you ONLY want those girls and don’t mind ruining your chances with everyone else, try suggesting skipping a date at meeting either at your or theirs, I find girls willing to do that to be way more likel…
/r/seduction10/03/25 11:34 PM
1

Well, hinge only allows you to have up to 7 people waiting on your response at any given moment. If it goes up to 8, you’re no longer allowed to give out likes until you answer some people.
/r/seduction07/02/25 08:43 PM
1

Yes, I have it memorized and when messaging back on hinge I’m pretty much on autopilot since it IS the same conversation each time. However, in the process of it we get to know each other a little and by the time we exchange numbers and move to texting it naturally becomes less scripted, which is the point where it starts to get overwhelming. In app communication is really not an issue. The number of matches or day fluctuates a lot. I don’t get too many likes, it’s mostly just people liking me b…
/r/seduction07/02/25 08:41 PM
2

You’re welcome, a lot of men are genuinely hopeless and will probably be better off putting their efforts into anything but dating, but if what you’ve described is true, you can actually make it happen for yourself so I’m happy to help. What do you mean by part 3 though?
/r/seduction07/02/25 08:10 PM
2

I get that, perhaps it’s just fear of missing out for me. It’s not like I actually need a new girl every day, it’s more so just me wondering what if this next one is the best night of my life.
/r/seduction07/02/25 08:06 PM
0

The point is to have that rotation be the best it can possibly can be by constantly trying new people to see if any of them would be better otherwise ones you’re already seeing on the regular. No goal other than that, the journey is the destination.
/r/seduction07/02/25 07:48 PM
1

That sounds like a smaller scale advice. Dating apps themselves aren’t really an issue, it’s the numbers I get from them that tend to be frustratingly overwhelming.
/r/seduction07/02/25 07:46 PM
1

Bruh it sound like you got it made and the only thing you’re lacking is social skills, which can definitely be improved, they’re called SKILLS for a reason. GAME Try to hangout more, watch good stand up comedy, listen to podcasts with charismatic hosts and kinda just absorb that shit. EXPERIENCE For men of your generation it’s entirely normal to loose your virginity later in life, you can look that up! I myself had no action until almost 21 and I’m crushing it now at 27. CLOTHES Style is importa…
/r/seduction07/02/25 06:54 PM
1

Well I’m Eastern European myself, so the polish wouldn’t be THAT excited about me, but yea fs I did have some luck in NL, but they were all foreign
/r/seduction04/02/25 07:22 AM
1

true, but Germans and Nordics aren’t much shorter than y’all and I did really well with those whenever I lived in multinational expat bubbles there’s always been tons of international couples, but hardly ever there’s been one with a Dutch person, everyone I knew who studied abroad in NL said they felt excluded and didn’t have much local friends, just saying
/r/seduction04/02/25 07:09 AM
1

Amsterdam is probably the best in NL because of countless schools and exchange students, but Netherlands as a whole aren’t very good imo. I just feel like the Dutch don’t like to date foreigners all that much. Dutch women tend to have features I’m into, so I’ve definitely given them plenty likes on dating apps in my time in Europe but hardly had any success, meanwhile I was doing very well for myself with German or even Scandinavian women who imo are far more gorgeous that just about anyone else…
/r/seduction31/01/25 06:02 PM
1

Is that really a thing now? Do men really move to barcelona just to be dedicated fboys? I used to live there at some point in my life and yes, my dating life was amazing hugely due to how perfectly suited for it that city is. But I always thought a big part of it must’ve been a great men/women ratio as there’s seemingly more attractive women then men moving/visiting there to be full time hot girls, go to clubs, beaches, bars and portray a dream lifestyle on their instagrams for relatively cheap.…
/r/seduction30/01/25 08:56 PM
1

You can’t use tinder or okcupid AND you’re shadowbanned on instagram? My boy, what’re you doing? Haha
/r/seduction29/01/25 10:41 PM
1

Those sounds like surprisingly good stats. How would you rate their average attractiveness level? But also relevant to you and/or matches you get in other apps. Did you adjust your profile specifically for feeld in any way?
/r/seduction26/01/25 07:19 PM
1

Interesting! How frequently do you actually meet people from feeld? I tried it once, most profiles I’ve seen weren’t very attractive and I was kinda taken back by everyone listing their kinks, I’m open minded but don’t really have any of my own, so felt like my profile might come off boring because of it. Also maybe it’s just my settings, but everyone on there seemed very old to, millennials.
/r/seduction26/01/25 02:31 PM
1

There’s always room for improvement as far as your dating profile goes. Just get into a habit of having pictures of yourself taken whenever you’re in a scenic location, doing something cool or just dressed well, just like girls do. Experiment with different promts, find what works for you. Then if you figure it out, consider investing in a premium subscription to scale the results, but never before getting any results at all.
/r/seduction26/01/25 08:12 AM
1

Sounds like your time is better spent working on getting more prospects my brother. One man’s three months talking stage is another man’s first link backseat special, you deserve better.
/r/seduction26/01/25 08:05 AM
1

At this point I just don’t bother. The amount of effort it’d take can be enough to pull multiple other girls, gotta be smart with your time. Besides, at this point I simply refuse to believe they’ve never met anyone without having been chatting for a few weeks first, which probably means she’s not as into it as she once was with someone else prior. Your time is better spent talking to someone who is.
/r/seduction25/01/25 11:41 PM
7

Lived in Spain for years and it’s definitely true except it was almost never the Spanish women. Language barrier can be tough a lot of them are bad and English plus the logistics of them oftentimes living with their parents until mid 30s and having reali life responsibilities like work and studying make it difficult. Much rather go for free 24/7 tourists looking to have some fun within the few days they’re staying there. Exchange students and expats too.
/r/seduction25/01/25 11:27 PM
10

I think that depends on whether they’re reaching out or responding to your text. Reaching out first and then just not opening/leaving their response on read seems kinda weird
/r/seduction25/01/25 04:34 AM
1

well, 5’6 is below average, so he’d probably not be pulling girls CONSISTENTLY, but it’s definitely possible, though at that point your best bet is probably to focus on finding the one rather than trying to be a player. One advantage you can have however, is being a non threat, so long as you’re cool and not creepy, it’s easier to infiltrate groups of girls or groups that have a lot of girls on them. This won’t pay off immediately, but will help to build a good circle, but hitch makes you more a…
/r/seduction25/01/25 01:08 AM
2

This only happens in smaller cities
/r/seduction24/01/25 11:03 PM
2

Loads of people faking it real well
/r/seduction24/01/25 10:17 PM
1

I have a pretty fun and interesting life, I’m very successful in my hobbies, hence the following. I’ve lived in and traveled different countries, have a good social circle, etc. Nothing too crazy but far above vast majority of guys. Still not some rich celebrity. I think it also depends on where you live, I live in LA so everything I listed isn’t really that impressive, when I travel to other places I am more eager to share my instagram as it compares to my competition really well.
/r/seduction24/01/25 10:00 PM
1

That’s not my thought process, definitely not through texting. It’s just that whatever people are hoping for is always gonna be better than objective reality. Same with us guys going dates with girls we already find attractive secretly hoping they actually aren’t even very photogenic so in reality they will be way hotter.
/r/seduction24/01/25 09:50 PM
1

In what way does it explain it? I’m not sure I follow
/r/seduction24/01/25 09:43 PM
1

I guess, heard it’s brutal for short or below average looking guys especially if the two are combined. I’ve seen guys who do well irl be of all sorts of heights and levels of attractiveness.
/r/seduction24/01/25 07:10 PM
1

key word slowly with that approach, how long does it take you to go from meeting to close and roughly how many times per year does that work out for you? no shade at all, genuine interest
/r/seduction24/01/25 06:44 PM
5

Very valid points, but idk. I have a somewhat decent instagram with a sizable following for someone who’s not actually for someone who’s not actually famous. I get on average a couple of phone numbers a day from dating apps and adding all these people would’ve screwed up my ratio real quick. My handful of thousands of followers only look impressive if I myself follow under a thousand people. Even in huge cities, a lot of hot girls know each other and it’s almost always a deal breaker if you used…
/r/seduction24/01/25 06:41 PM
1

I mean, OLD is very superficial and some people it’s never gonna work for, what else is there to do in that case
/r/seduction24/01/25 06:14 PM
3

It all sounds appealing but I just don’t know, dating apps get me more dates per week than I have free nights anyway, so it just feels like a better use of my time going out with someone who I have specifically selected out of all the available options, especially considering I know they’ve done the same. Best case scenario when cold approaching, especially day game, is getting a phone number of someone you will later still have to take on a date, meaning it’s a minimum of two days for maybe one…
/r/seduction23/01/25 07:50 PM
1

Those are the ones you gonna have the most fire sex with though, love me some daddy issue psycho hoes, in moderate amounts though
/r/seduction20/01/25 05:06 PM
1

Whether or not I’m strictly interested in sex is irrelevant to this post, which is about hookups, as they’re becoming harder. There will never be a shortage of women wanting to go on dates and have relationships, that’s what makes most of them happy, I’m not worried about that ever not being an option lol
/r/seduction20/01/25 07:24 AM
1

Well, occasionally there are women there also looking for hookups, hinge is just a better app. But even if they aren’t looking for hookups, they might still be ok with it if you play your cards right. What’s understood doesn’t need to be explained, the way my profile is set up and the way I carry myself irl wouldn’t really make anyone consider me a serious partner, rather a fun experience. But also, sex is an important part of a relationship, how can you expect someone to even consider any level…
/r/seduction20/01/25 07:21 AM
1

but they weren’t a year ago? and every year before then?
/r/seduction20/01/25 07:08 AM
1

You’ve completely missed the point, I never said they’re not doing it, I said they’re doing it less And of course I know they’re being with someone, because it’s me, yet it’s starting to happen less and data is on my side
/r/seduction20/01/25 06:52 AM
1

Lol what I actually feel like the way we have very open discussions about sex these days might be taking away the excitement for young people, they probably already know everything there is to discover going into it, idk
/r/seduction20/01/25 06:37 AM
0

Absolutely irrelevant to the post
/r/seduction20/01/25 06:12 AM
0

do you have a lot of millennial friends too then? because if not, how can you compare, no one’s saying you guy’s aren’t having sex, you just have way less of it than everyone before
/r/seduction20/01/25 06:00 AM
2

It’s a personality quality of mine to rationalize everything through graphs, percentages and statics, in this particular example it shows how my personal dating life has dropped simultaneously with the downfall of dating apps. If you met a few girls, what you’ve said would apply, if you met a LOT of girls, you’d find my approach actually makes a lot of sense. I also keep a file with pictures and dates and stuff, helps to observe patterns
/r/seduction20/01/25 05:38 AM
1

Not at all
/r/seduction20/01/25 05:26 AM
1

Ok, so it is definitely not just me. I’m in the same boat as far as looks and pictures.
/r/seduction20/01/25 05:23 AM
1

That being said though, if I do decide to change my ways, through all that experience I’ve learned a lot about myself and now have a gained a pretty good idea of what I like in a partner should I ever decide to get one that’s serious.
/r/seduction20/01/25 05:07 AM
0

Correct, I do not find joy in relationships. I got plenty friends who are happy having girlfriends but I never felt jealous of them or wanted something similar for myself. I wanted to be a player since I was a little boy
/r/seduction20/01/25 05:03 AM
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That sounds incredibly depressing. So what do you even do then? Give up and get a girlfriend? It just feels so sad committing to someone just because you’re unable to score as often as you want
/r/seduction20/01/25 04:46 AM
1

I mean, they don’t message me first with their addresses of course. But you’d be surprised how hot of a girl you could pull with a good profile and some clever messaging. Still can, just not as often anymore
/r/seduction20/01/25 04:43 AM
1

I’m embarrassed to admit, but day game is something I’ve never really tried. It always seemed super complicated logistically, plus such a huge commitment of time and effort. Fact you’re probably not gonna sleep with anyone you’ve met that very day makes it so much harder to force yourself to get into it too. There’s just many things I’d rather be doing if the sun is out
/r/seduction20/01/25 04:41 AM
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Well, I was writing this post under assumption it’ll mostly reach the western world, which I’m pretty sure is accurate. I’m also in US and don’t think the culture regarding sex differs all that much state to state. Besides, I myself am in a very transplant heavy melting pot type region, so we’re supposed to have it all.
/r/seduction20/01/25 04:36 AM
2

I am starting to get the idea I’m on the wrong subreddit, what makes you interested in seduction if it’s not to hookup with people?
/r/seduction20/01/25 04:32 AM
0

It was bumble and tinder for me all 2023 and they both worked super well, then they just stopped. Hinge is good, but way more effort
/r/seduction20/01/25 04:31 AM
0

Unlikely, I’ve had a least a couple (that I know of) FWBs that were also doing seeking arrangements. They still want to enjoy sex and would also use regular apps to find someone to sleep with just for pleasure.
/r/seduction20/01/25 04:28 AM
3

Well have you changed anything about yourself? Maybe your profile has gotten significantly better? Etc Also what apps do you use/have used in the past? I had my best year ever in 2023 and those same pictures and chat lines only got me like 70% of 2023 results in 2024. That and I had to put more effort in as in 2024 way more of my sex partners came from actual dates rather sneaky links.
/r/seduction20/01/25 04:24 AM
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Well, I have moved to hinge, actually only use hinge these days. Many dates, many end up in sex though I don’t consider first date sex to be a hookup, because you have to work for it and your personality matters, not just your looks. But still, roughly 2/3 dates back in tinder times used to end in sex and hinge is more like half and half if not 1/3. Dates themselves feel a lot less flirty too, I just feel like I’m being screened for boyfriend material sometimes
/r/seduction20/01/25 04:20 AM
1

I was not on those threads and don’t even know what they are. Yup, seems about right. Perhaps it might not just be the cultural shift, but also just me getting older.
/r/seduction20/01/25 04:16 AM
2

Isn’t that what started hookup culture though? Women getting confident enough to no longer care about how men perceive them, so they no longer were afraid or cared about being slut shamed for going after their desires? Hookup culture can actually benefit women’s sex lifes as by making yourself easier you have chances of sleeping with men, who you might’ve not had a chance of being taken on a date by. A highly attractive, very in demand man can only date so many women at once, but he can pleasure…
/r/seduction20/01/25 04:14 AM
4

It’s not they are hooking up less, which they are, it’s that they are having less sex period. Casual or not. Less sex makes you feel less good.
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:49 AM
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Comparison is a thief of joy and a very unproductive thing to do. Dating is something I’d love to be getting better at as time passes, so even though I hat I currently get is probably more than enough for many, if it’s less than what I had before, it’s a major step back. Think of it as a twisted never ending self improvement journey.
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:47 AM
1

I am gen z lol, just being an older gen z my early adulthood was influenced by millennial culture more. I’m not against their preferences, I’m just looking for ways to maintain my seemingly dated lifestyle in these changing times.
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:40 AM
2

I mean, that same research has shown that Gen Z is the most unhappy generation. They’re also the ones having the least sex. Maybe these two facts aren’t related, but maybe they are
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:37 AM
-3

You’d probably have more success had you actually read it, paying attention
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:33 AM
-1

What do you mean
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:27 AM
-12

What a time to be alive. I selfishly think my age group had it the worst as I’m old enough to remember how much fun millennials used to have. Spent my entire childhood anticipating getting old enough to engage in all the same things, yet it all went downhill soon after I became of age. Meanwhile younger Gen Z, as miserable as they are, don’t know life could be different.
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:25 AM
0

Well, OF is actually contributing to girls having less partners as you can do it with your bf, as opposed to having to be with a ton of random men as you’d do as an old fashioned p*rn actress. Besides, people getting fucked over and cheated on might actually cause them to remove themselves from dating. I experience it personally as many girls tell me how they’ve not really been with anyone for a very long time after their last relationship. Surely, some might be lying but not all. I still do wel…
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:18 AM
5

Over the last 15 years they’ve definitely increased, but over the past couple they have dropped and dropped a lot
/r/seduction20/01/25 02:51 AM
1

Well, it seems like what it takes for young people to want to have sex these days has become a lot more complicated compared to when hookup culture has peaked, which is now definitely in the past. Sadly
/r/seduction20/01/25 02:48 AM
1

I think most these comments don’t make much sense since the culture regarding this is obviously different in different parts of the world. Even though I assume most of us here westerners, US and most of Europe are quite different in that regard. That being said, I’m very curious as to where are you located
/r/seduction10/01/25 08:27 PM
1

I’d say do it if it takes no effort. If it’s just a hookup situation where no one’s gonna know, why not. If you don’t like it you don’t have to do it again. Less conventionally attractive girls can put in a lot more effort into pleasing you might be willing to do things others aren’t willing to. Married men get caught cheating on their wives with less attractive women all the time. Also seeing it in their eyes that you’re probably the hottest person they’ve been with can be good for your confide…
/r/seduction12/12/24 10:31 PM
5

Never seen a model with huge rack or a good twerking potential, checks out
/r/seduction15/02/24 03:08 AM
1

Seems like that's exactly what it is man, thanks!
/r/seduction27/08/21 03:07 PM
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