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Red Pill Theory:theory:vitamann/r/TheRedPill21/05/18 08:38 PM
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That's the whole idea, just spit out something that will send her spinning. I like to say "right foot in, right foot out" or "low tide, high tide", whatever she replies with, you don't reply.
/r/askTRP17/08/18 01:51 PM
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By the reply itself, and even continuing the conversation she sets herself up. If she had really been raped, she would have completely shut down and you'd only be speaking with the cops or her lawyer.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/18 04:48 PM
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That's a lot better than a false rape allegation. I'll take that response all day.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/18 04:10 PM
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This is right on. Well done/written. I don't understand the downvotes...
/r/TheRedPill13/06/18 10:11 PM
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women who, upon first interaction, had made comments about my height, and because I didn't lose my cool, I was able to take them to bed and prove to them that it didn't bother me. Shit tests. And I agree. 5'5" as well here.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/18 06:09 PM
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if I‘m single or if I have a prospect. Suggestions? I've been here before, the correct answer is "I have options that I'm not ready to give up. I've been screwed with before too much." The first part creates the abundance she has to fight against (even if there isn't one). Second, you make sure she understand you are not stupid, you know she screwed you and you are doing yourself the right way now.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/18 11:11 PM
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It's kind of like "free market, free enterprise", until some work harder and make more, then come in *rules and regulations* to make it more "fair".
/r/TheRedPill22/05/18 01:25 PM
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Yes, or whatever your frame is. I'm sometimes happy, enjoying the moment, loud. When shit is thrown my way, do I die down and be not happy anymore?
/r/TheRedPill22/05/18 01:18 PM
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You comment is appreciated, I have read the side bar, The Rational Male book and I'm a fan of the blog. This post is my testimony on hypergamy.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/18 01:17 PM
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Kind of, it's also how YOU fill your own shoes. Let's say you just fucked a hot girl, you leave her place and run into some other girls. You won't have the same level or urge to deploy seed. You are content, calm and not needy. It is evident to them. They will sense it. Remember this sensation. Let's say you haven't fucked a girl, you leave your place and run into some cute girls. Apply frame above. Will they sense you just fucked a hot girl? Are you content, calm and not needy? If they turn to …
/r/TheRedPill21/05/18 08:53 PM
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Anger is a phase, we all go through it. Some take more time than others. Once on the other side, it's Stoic.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/18 08:46 PM
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To answer your question: Yes. Shorten the time-span and do it just on an approach, Google "push pull".
/r/seduction24/04/18 03:09 PM
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You can get a girlfriend and live Beta happy, or you can get a woman who fucks with no remorse as an Alpha. That's the difference.
/r/seduction24/04/18 03:08 PM
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That is correct. I agree. BTW, these sound like the type to accuse you of rape, even after tearing your clothes off or asking for a second cum.
/r/seduction20/04/18 01:25 PM
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We all have situations that we are proud of. I see nothing wrong with the OP to have a place to share. To a certain extent, we can relate, aspire, criticize, etc. This is the OP's FR on keeping frame, good for him.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/18 11:50 AM
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It's no coincidence that you will constantly see the expression here: "the red pill, it's a hard pill to swallow". The reality is scary when you are used to things being a certain way. Most people don't like change, I usually don't. Our parents raised us a certain way, society taught us how things are SUPPOSED to be. I went through a lot of anger and disillusion at my BP self and women when converting to RP. I recalled my life experiences as an AWALT witness, my Beta Bux (failed) marriage, etc. …
/r/TheRedPill12/04/18 11:42 AM
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And some proud Beta Bux is going to end up marrying her, she will cause him hell, divorce with alimony and 50/50 kids custody and child support. Dude will be hitting the bottle in WTF mode. She will be back in bed with Alpha Fucks. Rinse in repeat all over the world.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/18 12:02 PM
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My hair is salt-n-pepper (I'm in my 40's), I keep it short and lightly gelled. I get complimented on my George Clooney looks a lot, BTW I'm 5'5" and solid, TRP for life.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/18 03:38 PM
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Hugging is a form of pickup, hugging in private leads to cuddling, which leads to sex. Who says no to hugs?!
/r/seduction06/04/18 03:28 PM
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They can sense men who are lifting for women, who are at the gym because of women, who are virtue signalling in an attempt to attract women, join a dance class for the purpose of attracting women, etc. That is why inner game and going monk works. You do stuff for yourself, eventually women will follow.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/18 03:20 PM
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This would be in the case the man is blue or purple pilled. Right? I hit the gym hard and LTRs can see it happen. They do the same, I'm assuming otherwise they know if they let themselves go, another girl can step in. So, I haven't had this happen to me. I will hear the occasional comment "I think I'm gaining weight". I say nothing, react nothing. She can figure out the rest.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/18 03:16 PM
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Lots of excellent points!
/r/seduction03/04/18 03:26 PM
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Best explanation of Seddit, cheers!
/r/seduction22/03/18 05:28 PM
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NYC has it all. Amy Schumer (comedian), constantly made jokes about how she could always get laid in NY, no matter her weight.
/r/seduction18/03/18 04:39 PM
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And this is why the RP is hard to swallow for a lot of us. I'm glad to have been enlightened.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/18 12:00 PM
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Butting in, I love meditation and it works. I started using an app called Headspace. The first 10 sessions are free, just keep repeating those 10 free sessions forever. They work.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/18 03:52 PM
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40's here and I agree. As for the bush, trim it for her, it can be a turn on for both. And once you go down on her hairless, she will understand.
/r/seduction15/03/18 03:21 PM
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The downvoting is a weird system. I almost feel like it's done by people that don't understand TRP and are just hating the only way they can: downvotes. Being clear first thing after becoming an LTR is key, at step to a true RP is being clear on expectations.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/18 03:13 PM
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I'm not Narcissistic, but I can see some of my behavior could be thought of as.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/18 01:20 PM
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like a true blue-billy for a few times Yup! It's surprising how counterintuitive this all is...
/r/TheRedPill13/03/18 08:14 PM
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Until she shows up at your door, tries to burn down stuff, shows up at your workplace and fires up drama, stalks you and your family, etc. Been there.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/18 02:39 AM
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Dread is creating fear of the unexpected and uncertain. Examples from HER brain: "Is he about to leave me?" "Is he able to get more / better tail elsewhere?" etc Creating this doubt will mentally align her for your approval.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/18 02:28 AM
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If sex is the only thing she's bringing to the table, she's not anything above plate material. This should be inscribed inside every man's wallet.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/18 02:27 AM
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I have a weird magnet for these type of women. I've been accused of stuff I never did and would never do. I've woken up to shit being thrown all over the apartment; ON A ONE NIGHT STAND. I've been threatened with knifes, shoes and even at gun point. I had a dog stolen and my clothes cut into squares. Any girl could be fully sane and cute one day, the next she is trying to burn your smartphone. Heed the advice, run upon craziness, SHE WON'T BE OK EVER. Just go to the next.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/18 02:18 AM
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I don't think I've ever been as healthy and active as I am now. The key thing though for me was: loosing weight (food monitoring) and hitting the gym. Weights is like squeezing your muscle for testosterone. 30! Man, you have nothing to be worrying about right now...
/r/TheRedPill09/03/18 07:05 PM
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Well said / written. I’d argue that for most Beta men transactional sex is the only definition of sex they ever really know Society has equated marriage to this. Just look at all the jokes in the media and print. SMH
/r/TheRedPill09/03/18 05:09 PM
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I've done that in bed with women, while the flat screen sits off. This makes her get closer.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/18 04:52 PM
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TRT No. I've never been level tested, though.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/18 04:48 PM
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Will definitely do. I want to give back to this community, TRP is a service to humanity.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/18 04:36 PM
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And now you're harder working and better educated. Excellent way of putting it! I should have thanked her for it. The idiocy is putting up with this shit. If you know the rules, yes. But most men don't know. Worse: you were lied to about the rules and then continued to play by them. Agreed.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/18 04:33 PM
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Did it work? I've contemplated this for a while, it seems overall a lot more stress free.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/18 03:43 PM
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I'm glad I read this... Based on the title I almost skipped it! But the logic is very good. Giving it a spin.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/18 09:59 PM
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Yeah, excellent post, except the wiretap. If she messes around, your gut instinct will tell you.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/18 08:28 PM
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he's not getting his dick sucked. Poor guy. And this is why I mug smile every time I meet an ex's SO.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/18 08:06 PM
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I'm in my mid 40's. Never been as healthier, happier, stronger and with more options than now. On my end, I have so many stories, just on getting played alone. Many on transformation, both mental and physical. I like reading about others as well.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/18 07:39 PM
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Is it gross to fuck a girl on her period? It is perfectly fine to do so, especially if you are (I assume) putting a rubber on. Women tend to be at their horniest during those days.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/18 04:40 PM
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Nothing fancy, just telling the person "Goodbye", it can be in an indifferent, sarcastic, nice, or whatever tone. The sense of loss can trigger a reaction, or not. Even a simple and literally "Goodbye" or "Pleasure to know you" or whatever will be it. Example: You: Hi! (ghosting) You: OK then, goodbye forever! (potential delay or more ghosting) Her: goodbye?
/r/seduction07/03/18 08:20 PM
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This happens to me as well, ghosted and then contacted. I made the mistake a few times of the "goodbye" ultimatum to never hear back. However, when I just don't and then send a "wassup?" message a few months later, gold! One became an LTR, we had a talk about it. It turned out she was seeing someone, and just needed a small break from that relationship, without breaking up. I have a suspicion this happens often.
/r/seduction07/03/18 03:11 PM
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Treat it as a shit test, what you do is irrelevant to a seduction.
/r/seduction07/03/18 02:44 PM
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You are getting the symptoms of Oneitis. And there is only one thing you can do: Step back, fuck around, and come back with a better frame.
/r/seduction06/03/18 08:43 PM
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I did something like this, also to see how far it got. But got yelled at ("are you fucking retarded?! fuck me!") right after she dry humped me and I did nothing. Probably 3-4 bedroom IOIs in.
/r/seduction06/03/18 03:09 PM
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That's been me. You are not marrying the girl, you are just tapping her a few times. And why is it always the girl that isn't even that hot that drives a man nuts?
/r/seduction06/03/18 02:54 PM
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LOL! Great response, I like the post, even if it's really good marketing ;)
/r/seduction05/03/18 04:34 PM
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I will say this is great marketing ;)
/r/seduction05/03/18 04:24 PM
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This is the #1 problem we all have when we start out: Missing the signs. I lost so many opportunities by not taking a chance. Flip the bird at rejection and go for it. Back off, and then try again if you are pushed back, one step back, two forward.
/r/seduction05/03/18 03:03 PM
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No, it was a shit test, hope he ignored the statement
/r/seduction05/03/18 03:01 PM
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And then when you are with her, keep the eye contact. Don't make it creepy, just keep enjoying her eyes, have sex with them (in your head). Practice it often, it projects.
/r/seduction04/03/18 12:07 AM
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This is exactly what I do! Now try projecting sexual attraction, it just takes it to a whole other level :D
/r/seduction03/03/18 12:38 PM
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No drinking, keep control, you'll enjoy and remember everything more.
/r/seduction03/03/18 12:35 PM
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This is called a shit test. And you royally failed it. You can find A LOT of information on how to pass this test all over the web. Try this sub right here, read the Guides, etc.
/r/seduction03/03/18 12:34 PM
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Inner Game
/r/seduction02/03/18 09:53 PM
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Sounds like you are just getting started, so congrats! How about you start reading the guides on the right column? Especially learning pickup, approach anxiety and endless conversation. Don't complicate an approach, a simple "Hi! I'm elyory" is a good start. The prettier the girl, the more she is used to compliments, so you will be JUST ANOTHER guy.
/r/seduction02/03/18 09:51 PM
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This is a super broad post, I'll give my short and best advice for approach: Never approach from behind or anything above 90 degrees, and avoid straight front. Slight angle is best. Your target doesn't know you from any other stranger, you could be a rapist, a robber, a sales person. Country matters not, girls are all the same inside their head.
/r/seduction02/03/18 07:57 PM
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I agree with all this. What I do is just go with the flow, don't even bother to set a "relationship name" or label. She will probably bring it up at some point, and then you can go down the "what do we need that for?" "i like how things are..." etc. Be prepared to walk away. Most times, she will agree to the arrangement.
/r/seduction02/03/18 07:20 PM
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Dont be friends if you want to fuck her and its not mutual. Youre gonna have a bad time. This leads to a path of bad Oneitis and perpetual orbiting.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/18 08:06 PM
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I think the book is seduction "light". However, I will answer to your points: You are answering yourself on this. I don't invest in myself with money, I invest in myself with education. Which I believe is the point there. Inner game. That's the investment. Money doesn't give inner game. I will agree that, the subtleties are not well explained. However, if you ponder it a bit, it's about how faking something is part of "being needy". I prefer using "being AFC". I couldn't finish the book, it has …
/r/seduction01/03/18 07:44 PM
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Text game is a lazy way to go nowhere most of the time. Hot and cold is best with in-person interactions, anything is, really... Plus, it's easy for her to flake out via text.
/r/seduction01/03/18 07:32 PM
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Congrats on the instant date! I value those more than a plain ol number close. When sitting down, straight up say "sit next to me so we can hear each other better". If the logistics don't play, play them out.
/r/seduction01/03/18 07:30 PM
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This happened to me too, it's awkward because I'm obviously older. So I started laughing and then proceeded to admonish with a "WTF are you not in school right now?!!" (mid morning)
/r/seduction01/03/18 07:27 PM
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Don't beat yourself up, all you needed was a bit of sexual aggression. Girls can take sexual jabs while laughing, and that starts to sink your hook in. Comedy is the anesthesia for it ;)
/r/seduction01/03/18 07:24 PM
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What this video about women's double standard.
/r/seduction01/03/18 03:19 PM
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You do not need to get slutty on the guy for him to notice you. Talk and smile a lot, practice in the mirror looking at your own eyes in a very soft way, pretend you are about to kiss each time, even if you are 4 feet away. Eyes talk quite a bit. Talk with other people and give subtle glances and smiles at the target. Especially talk with other guys for him to get built up on his balls. That is all classic seduction, it's classy and builds sexual tension. If all goes well and you are talking and…
/r/seduction01/03/18 01:19 PM
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The "committed relationship" barrier can be broken. If you want her, and you see her again, just remember that girls will always seek the plausible deniability ("it just happened!" "we got carried away!"). Having fun is really what its all about, sounds like you nailed it.
/r/seduction01/03/18 01:13 PM
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Lesson learned early, some of use will loose our house instead.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/18 03:39 PM
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The sad part is,they don't even know what they are doing. That's exactly what it is: their nature.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/18 03:37 PM
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I get this a lot in the Boston area, maybe it's a north-east kind of thing? It doesn't happen in Florida.
/r/seduction27/02/18 04:09 PM
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This is gold: 4.5! LOL! I was told THRICE the "I'm a virgin, because such didn't count". The girls where from different countries, concluding that this is universal.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/18 06:45 PM
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Males who have a good relationship with their mother typically have the expectation to be loved unconditionally by the female essence present in every woman. This was me. Maybe we have been unfair as men, expecting maternal love from women who only give womanly love. But that's how we where raised... “I trust you to be a woman.” AWALT
/r/TheRedPill26/02/18 06:06 PM
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Spend any amount of time having a real argument with a chick and you will immediately realize that it's like arguing with an emotional schizophrenic who has an incredibly good memory and an intimate knowledge of precisely which buttons to push in order to set you off This is the truth, I wasted SO MUCH time on arguments to nowhere... Girls give you signs when they are picking a fight, you can feel it, and like a blind sheep, I fell for it for years...
/r/TheRedPill26/02/18 05:57 PM
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The question is, what is your end girl? Full experience of life? Or becoming a RedPill ninja? Based one that, the paths diverge. Having experienced both, I will agree that someone should royally fail in life, and then pickup and appreciate TRP.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/18 05:40 PM
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I'll disagree, HB is a scale for Hot Babes, not women in general. An HB3 might be a regular girl (RG?). Also, HB scale is subjective, my HB9 may be someone's HB10. My HB8 coworker may be an HB7 to others.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/18 05:39 PM
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This has been super effective on my end! As huge note: This works best when your inner game is at it's tops. You are opening your soul communication with the girls and SHE WILL read your frame. If you are not really there, she won't be either. Also, I never hold a solid gaze, I get playful: hold and let go. Do a pattern and she will pickup a pattern. Smile or smirk, never serious.
/r/seduction26/02/18 04:23 PM
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I've had spinning plates for about 10-11 years now. I've had LTRs as well. It's a different game with the same rules. TRP still applies. Know your frame and never loose it. while it can be pretty dire it's better to understand these things than not I remember going through that... that was mind altering.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/18 04:02 PM
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Your FRIEND kicked some ass! He pumped and dumped her, got her fired up and left her next to you with the keys in and engine started. You owe him.
/r/seduction25/02/18 03:51 PM
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The more you push, the more she will pull. If you start pulling, she will push away. The way of life.
/r/seduction25/02/18 12:07 AM
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I'm going to try to start beta, like you mentioned. I always try to remain even. But getting a feel of the situation is smart.
/r/seduction25/02/18 12:04 AM
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I play cool, no matter how hot. If she has iMessage, I do a thumbs up. The less you say, the better. If you turn on Read Receipts, she will see you read / saw the nude, but you haven't replied, it'll drive her nuts :) If you blow a load on texts, she will get gun shy.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/18 03:18 PM
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As males, we are expected to handle things differently when it comes to emotions. Be her rock and all that. Loosing your parents be damned. When they see their rock soften (YOU), it raises questions about her environment and security. Which converts to anger and resentment towards you. You've gone Purple. You can turn this around, bounce back and pretend it never happened, find a fuck buddy to dump this on instead, and dump that shit after a great fuck, she may not care that much, but it will be…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/18 03:10 PM
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I had something like this happen to me, what hurt was the guy and I had been friends for a long time. I got good advice from another friend: Confront. Long story: So one day after school I asked to talk to him, I said something like "You took the girl you knew I was working on, that was not cool. You chose her over our friendship. Which tells me there is no more friendship. And now you think you are the shit. Congrats, you are the shit." - which sounds now kind of beta-ish, but that was me then.…
/r/seduction22/02/18 09:08 PM
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Well said.
/r/seduction22/02/18 09:03 PM
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Dear OP, I don't think this is a Field Report (FR), maybe edit the title? You are completely right about how this works, however people just want the quick and easy non-existent answer to getting rich, getting girls and walking on water. Inner game, outter game, practice practice practice. The results show up after all that.
/r/seduction22/02/18 08:01 PM
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Here's the thing, us guys are not that difficult, we are just more visual. If the guy isn't relationship savvy, add a bit of "blindness" to his discredit. You could be sending all the right signals and he won't see a thing. So, you have to blunt about wanting to meet and stuff. No need to go ho, offer to put out or nothing. Just give the clueless a nudge. P.S. Props to you on cross posting your question to a bunch of subs. Why?
/r/seduction22/02/18 07:58 PM
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The "Commitment Talk" is nothing but the female version of this clueless screed Sentences like this are gold
/r/TheRedPill22/02/18 03:42 PM
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/r/seriouspickup: For those dedicated to practicing cold approach pickup. The easy no brainer - and you are going to struggle with it, but stick with it: Go monk: No porn, no lusting, get shit out of your life Hit the gym: No need to go crazy here, just make it a routine, hire a temp coach if needed, but even if you just do some cardio and light weights, you will notice a change Meditation: I started with an app called Mindspace. I've moved on since then to deep mindful meditation, when you are …
/r/seduction22/02/18 03:14 PM
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If I recorded my pickups (10-20 during day game) and then just edited out the fails and showed the home runs, even if it came down to 5-6. I'd look like a king. A 50 lay count is low, if it's the same Tyler I'm thinking, we started around the same time, I don't keep track, but at 10-12 different girls a year, and 11+ years, I'm well over 120.
/r/seduction21/02/18 10:29 PM
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I know how you feel, I've been there, you need to work your inner self. Try a sport or something that gives you a validation, women are like water: We need them, every day, but we don't draw our value from it. We draw value from elsewhere. Listen to the comments, get some meditation going.
/r/seduction21/02/18 03:34 PM
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I was in your situation. That desire to reconnect with those girls came from the fact that I missed the boat on so many opportunities, just out my insecurities. So, once I got game, I wanted to tag any girl that had dissed me or I had missed by being a shit ass. I went back to my home town a few times (somewhat small), and reached out and ran into several of them. At this point, they are older and have life experience (and not as pretty as city girls), and I'm a catch. It was almost too easy. I …
/r/seduction21/02/18 02:49 PM
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I love women, everything about them, even their petty drama. A woman walks across and there's a trail of perfume and/or shampoo. I've stood at CVS smelling bottle after bottle (yes, that guy). If a girl or two is buying shampoo, even better, you can talk about it, smell her and stuff. Sounds creepy, but women like to be liked.
/r/seduction21/02/18 02:26 PM
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Thank you and you are welcome!
/r/seduction21/02/18 02:10 PM
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They where, people don't post crap on public. They send direct.
/r/seduction21/02/18 03:55 AM
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Cheers!
/r/seduction21/02/18 03:45 AM
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Thanks! And that is definitely happening.
/r/seduction21/02/18 03:44 AM
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Thanks and no worries, I'm building a compilation of the entries for further discussion.
/r/seduction21/02/18 03:43 AM
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Nice!
/r/seduction20/02/18 10:06 PM
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I was there this past weekend! I'm not a club fan, so I'll tell you about day game. HBs tend to hang out at pools and beaches in the afternoons before going out. There is a path between the beach front hotels and the actual beach that has lots of girl traffic. Not so Secret: Walk the little streets behind Collins Ave. there are lots of hostels there (translation: foreign punn). I had excellent success there. These girls are there for fun and then gone. Enjoy! Caution: The ratio was NOT GOOD, you…
/r/seduction20/02/18 10:05 PM
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Thanks! I found the down votes funny and puzzling, most stuff I posted has been field tested.
/r/seduction20/02/18 09:32 PM
1

I had a similar situation this week: Met for coffee, good chat, almost immediate kino escalation, etc. We both had to go, we said we'd meet up for a meal or something. Then I got pushed back twice, then finally ghosted. People start thinking, come to their own conclusions and change their minds.
/r/seduction20/02/18 09:04 PM
2

Thanks! I'll create a summary and the discussion can continue there.
/r/seduction20/02/18 08:59 PM
13

Thank you, definitely will. I'm not burnt out, I'm a bit disillusioned with the sub, TBH it's more a life coach forum than a seduction forum. Techniques are barely discussed, few FRs, there are people that contacted me that don't believe shit tests ever happen (WTF!?). Don't need to waste my time. I'm just trying to help others, I was a beta once too. People don't seem to be into fast seduction, they want a "quick help me get laid" kind of help. It took me months to get solid game, being out the…
/r/seduction20/02/18 08:39 PM
2

The sub is a free to post place, hopefully someone does.
/r/seduction20/02/18 08:28 PM
4

Thanks! And thank you for your moderation and constant presence.
/r/seduction20/02/18 07:40 PM
1

Example?
/r/seduction20/02/18 07:39 PM
6

That's the whole point of this post... However, the idea is to pass the shit test, humor and aloofness is key. I know some of the responses here are kind of odd in a regular conversation, but you are trying to pickup the girl.
/r/seduction20/02/18 07:38 PM
7

Thanks!
/r/seduction20/02/18 07:36 PM
4

Nice! This is a mind fuck, love these!
/r/seduction20/02/18 07:36 PM
1

This happened to me, and I got ghosted. My text game sucks, so I didn't even bother to try anything else. Reading online, I could have played the triangle game, but it seems too involved, not worth the girls.
/r/seduction20/02/18 05:00 PM
2

I learned back in the day from the Mistery Method, got involved after reading Style's book. I haven't learned any new methods, I just browse "meh" and keep chugging. 11 years later, it still works for me. I've made my own adaptations to my own personality. I also don't do a bag of tricks or negging. I have respect for the guy, no matter how nuts.
/r/seduction20/02/18 04:57 PM
1

2-8 a month. I'm mostly an LTR kind of person, I can juggle 3 LTRs without sweating it. Anything above that and it gets too mentally crazy for me.
/r/seduction20/02/18 04:33 PM
0

That's right, we naturally want to put goddess looking women on a pedestal, just to get kicked in the face.
/r/seduction20/02/18 04:28 PM
2

Absolutely no clubs. I can't really talk and seduce over thumping bass. I'll only do it if she gets horny dancing at clubs. And the hotter she is, the more fly you have to deal with. Typically a first date would be coffee and then a walk, it has built in isolation and change of venue. You lead all the way, easy to kino as you walk. If it's a dinner kind of date, I make it a point that I'm not paying for her "because it's not like we are fucking / you are my gf" and offer MY options. Never the "w…
/r/seduction20/02/18 04:15 PM
1

Don't let things cool down, women can cool down super fast. Keep the hot going while walking, driving, whatever.
/r/seduction20/02/18 03:29 PM
2

After building more rapport, they usually do give out their number. Don't know about the downvotes, this has worked for me.
/r/seduction20/02/18 01:27 PM
1

Try malls and grocery stores. If you are into MILF, try stores, especially Old Navy and Target.
/r/seduction20/02/18 01:26 PM
5

It's where you impress a girl by telling her exactly what make and model (for lack of better words) of shampoo she is wearing. Let her talk about her hair, while you touch and smell it, it's no longer weird when you are actively have a conversation about it. Depending on the IOIs, you can escalate to hair pull, but this doesn't work well during day game.
/r/seduction20/02/18 01:25 PM
1

No texting back and forth. I suck at texting. I only use it for the following reasons: Sexting with an LTR Setting up a meet location / time Fluffing, making sure the girl remembers with funny banter in regards to how you met ("are you wearing your stained shirt every day now?" "I'm going to borrow your platform shoes next weekend" etc) Edit My day game happens at malls, coffee shops, college campuses, grocery stores, you name it. And don't listen to the coffee is for friends crap, you can picku…
/r/seduction20/02/18 01:22 PM
5

Think of routines as a circus or magic trick, if you do them once in a while, people will see you struggle. If you practice lots and often, it'll be like magic. To an outsider, it will even seem trivial and easy. I keep a bag of routines in my head, sometimes I blank out and I don't want to loose my game, so I pull one of those out. In the meantime, something else will come up and I move on to the next topic. And thanks, it's set for Thursday!
/r/seduction20/02/18 01:18 PM
10

Day game is a whole different monster. But it's worth it. Learn your approach, that is the key, you have to shake out the "salesman stigma", it takes a while. I think I gotta post about that. Women are sober and are less likely to flake out when you message them. That's all I do now: day game. I hate noisy clubs and bars.
/r/seduction19/02/18 10:21 PM
-1

So?! I've been actually turned down for having a big dick. I've learned to rely more on oral and positions that don't require full insertion.
/r/seduction19/02/18 09:51 PM
2

Keep her on the list, got tag other chicks.
/r/seduction19/02/18 09:49 PM
2

"when you find yourself riding alone with the sun on your face..."
/r/TheRedPill19/02/18 09:48 PM
-1

This is a sad truth...
/r/seduction19/02/18 09:44 PM
1

and this is why i love TRP. LTR is also great for experimenting stuff, too.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/18 09:29 PM
6

All the while making her slut shame feel ok about what she is doing
/r/TheRedPill19/02/18 08:30 PM
3

Women dont like to fuck losers. This includes married women. Yes indeed. make your career, children, and hobbies your mission Preach! someone is going to fuck them right. May as well be me Amen
/r/TheRedPill19/02/18 08:29 PM
2

Cheers my friend! I'm in my 40's, financially stable, don't drink or smoke, great job, as well. I walk into places like I'm about to teach a lesson. I tend to veer to oneitis, the only cure is to keep multiple spins at a time.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/18 07:43 PM
1

You are going about it the wrong way, why not join a club and make some friends first? Women will see through anybody, videos won't help you if you don't have the mindset.
/r/seduction19/02/18 07:39 PM
1

I think you are missing the OPs point... the idea is to understand what you are doing and make it better, each time around.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/18 07:37 PM
1

I'm on a streak of being with women that live in an apartment or condo owned by their parents. 6 so far, this year! BTW, thumbs up on being female and reading this sub!
/r/seduction19/02/18 07:14 PM
5

Sounds like a shy girl. I've had "I don't make out in clubs/bars/public", I use it as a queue to isolate. Smiling is always good!
/r/seduction19/02/18 07:12 PM
1

I do have the confidence, not the looks. The problem is proving beforehand bedroom knowledge, most women don't wonder about that until sex time, and then walk around talking about all the one pump chumps and cum neggating mikes. My experience has been probably tied to the social circle I pick up on, the cute girls near a college campus or curious interns near work. I've read lately about late adolescence and brain maturity late bloomers. They mention 20's, but I'm thinking it now extends way bey…
/r/seduction19/02/18 05:13 PM
1

Yes we do have the experience! And BTW, I've been asked for money by women of any age 20 or 50. I definitely do not have the money nor the look. I'm just surprised a guy at 30 would have the balls to ask...
/r/seduction19/02/18 04:28 PM
1

Excellent post! I began to look back at interactions that went this way, and I completely agree. You can feel a sexual frame coming from deep in your gut/groin. Where as deep conversation come from your mind/heart. I'm going to cut the deep shit out, and instead just focus on having a sexual intent and communication even if my words aren't sexual. This is genius. this is one of the downfalls that introverts run into, we tend to have deep views of the world and life in general Indeed, and girls l…
/r/TheRedPill19/02/18 04:21 PM
2

I agree. Build rapport based on the fact you are there, that's an entry point. I usually ask if they want to hang out LATER, after the events and shoots. Nobody wants to go to their room and stare at a wall, how about finding something interesting to do "hey, i'm going to checkout the <blah bleh>, wanna go?" Isolate and escalate She wants her friends to go? I'd say no at other places, but we are not talking HBs here, let the friends go, let her comfort build, kino and kino.
/r/seduction19/02/18 03:38 PM
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This is a newb shit test, after time, I stopped getting it. That's just screaming you haven't built enough rapport with me! With time, you can feel the rapport click in, and then you ask. However if it happens, I handle the shit test as follows: Her: I don't like to give out my number Me: Stranger danger! Stranger danger! (screaming or very loud) Her: Stop it! Me: I get it, it's cool, I wouldn't give myself a number either Me: <build more rapport here>
/r/seduction19/02/18 03:16 PM
2

Volunteering is a high value panty wetter, shows you care, you meet lots of girls, too. And well, you are doing something good.
/r/seduction19/02/18 03:07 PM
1

Just wanting to confirm my experience in the matter with you, why do prefer them?
/r/seduction19/02/18 03:01 PM
3

I'm mid-40's, more than half the girls I pickup are sub-25. Not only is it possible, it's easier! These admitedly tend to be shorter term relationships, as the gap feeds into the following problems: They being of party age, my being older tired and prefer quiet Sexual ineptitude, you tend to end up teaching each one. Maybe you want that, but it gets old quick. As opposed to a 40 something woman, who rocks it. Maturity varies, but when drama happens, holly molly shit hits the fan with power
/r/seduction19/02/18 02:57 PM
1

I just found texting too repetitive, and because girls can look away and reply later, it breaks the momentum.
/r/seduction19/02/18 02:48 PM
1

That's right! And context is key. The reality is, every shit test needs to be answered with humor or at least a smile.
/r/seduction17/02/18 03:35 PM
2

Been there. You need to stop all forms of torture/communication with her. Just flat out cold and forget about her. I allow myself to be a little more available with her NO this is friend zone activity
/r/seduction15/02/18 06:59 PM
7

Haven't tried it, but: "What?!" And break out into a John Travolta finger slash or whatever causes laughter...
/r/seduction15/02/18 06:57 PM
1

oooohhhh! I like this... this is a nice flip. I'm going to try it next time.
/r/seduction15/02/18 06:49 PM
2

It happens to all of us, practice with other women, seduction mental agility doesn't happen over night. You will be in better shape next time you approach her.
/r/seduction15/02/18 06:48 PM
1

Of course, but you will work up to it. It's like golf, you have to play constantly to keep a good handicap, no matter how good you are, you pause, you have to spin up again.
/r/seduction15/02/18 06:46 PM
1

If they freak out, it's because you are transitioning too quick... you HAVE to build rapport first. And if you do it right, she will give you her phone.
/r/seduction14/02/18 09:24 PM
1

The best text game is not texting. Amen That's how they did it before cell phones It gives the girl a more committed position too
/r/seduction14/02/18 09:23 PM
2

You make a good point. However, I don't usually approach a girl randomly anymore, at my age, I pick and choose. So my approach, is for the close. If I go home empty handed, it's ok. It's been my experience that girls that push this shit test have been burned a lot and are usually super hot, but offer nothing other than that. Guys that hook up with them, loose interest soon and move on. Kind of sucks for them.
/r/seduction14/02/18 09:20 PM
5

Yes, that's how it works. You have to not be the typical person. BTW, that "Maybe in a year", brush it off, keep going to the gym, keep making eye contact and be friendly. Smile and keep your purpose. She may reach back to you later on.
/r/seduction14/02/18 09:15 PM
1

Freakintastic! That's like my life story, except I had no in person guru, only Mistery and Style's books, Forums and a group of newb PUAs to learn from. I wish you all the best, good luck on your comics!
/r/seduction14/02/18 09:13 PM
1

Casually!?
/r/seduction14/02/18 05:04 PM
1

I typically compliment in a non-comital way ("you taste good", "i want this ass", etc), at least in the beginning. You don't want to sound like you are in awe of having being laid. You want to be casual. Compliment without the neediness. You don't have to be a jerk either. Especially if that is not in your nature, she will detect the BS and that's not good.
/r/seduction14/02/18 03:10 PM
7

Old school Mistery response: "Who said anything about sex? Get your mind out of the gutter!" Edit I would only use the first sentence, the neggy second sentence is too much at this point.
/r/seduction14/02/18 03:06 PM
2

On Always Be Closing, just remember you don't have to close with a number, a fuck or a make out. There are many ways to close. There are times I know a girl won't cheat on her guy, or she isn't ready, or she's a virgin, or whatever. So, then you close with a hug, kiss on the cheek, even a colluding smile. The point is, you did something, you learned something, you stepped up to the plate and made progress. Even if it was a platonic moment, you did it.
/r/seduction14/02/18 03:04 PM
1

AA is just based on fear. Wether it's the unknown, rejection or some other self esteem mutilating factor. It's just fear. When learning to ride our bikes, there is fear of falling, of hitting the bar with our balls, or whatever. But we practice and practice, and eventually it becomes natural. Then we raise the bar, go for a bigger hill, a higher ramp. Or a prettier girl. After 11 years (or 12?) of being in the game, there is the occasional girl that will make my stomach flip and balls tingle and…
/r/seduction14/02/18 02:59 PM
1

I work in IT, no longer chubby - but was, and still ugly. Girls like looks, but prefer and EXPERIENCE. They want to enjoy their moments and life. Give them that.
/r/seduction14/02/18 02:43 PM
1

Pat in the back! Keep the momentum going.
/r/seduction14/02/18 02:36 PM
1

Agreed, my response was excitement (my response is somewhere here), unapologetically sexual women are it!
/r/seduction14/02/18 01:53 AM
1

Mixed results, depends on the target
/r/seduction14/02/18 01:43 AM
4

Down vote the post and move on. Cheers!
/r/seduction14/02/18 01:39 AM
1

"Yeah, that's fucking cute!"
/r/seduction13/02/18 08:26 PM
6

When kissing, did you at least feel each other out? What was the reaction?
/r/seduction13/02/18 08:14 PM
3

This is actually a good idea, drop the shit and ask her to wing you and you wing her...
/r/seduction13/02/18 08:12 PM
5

Yeh! Now we are playing some games!
/r/seduction13/02/18 08:12 PM
1

I'd take out the "I apologize"
/r/seduction13/02/18 07:14 PM
3

This is my kind of girl! I love looking at women, and if she looks at guys, it's free tickets for me to look at boobs. Except I'll take it further, I'll comment on it. Her actions also tell me she is deeply into sex. This is all good. If she gets uncomfortable, she will shit test more, something like: Isn't that guy cute?! Love it!
/r/seduction13/02/18 07:09 PM
2

It's not oneitis, it's neediness, and it kills anything. Go live your life, and stay friendly. She will come back, don't wait for a girl.
/r/seduction13/02/18 06:59 PM
1

Life is a game, you either win, loose or sit watching others play. Congrats on the chess sex, never had heard of that. I made a girl laugh hard, and then had sex. I'll call it "laugh game".
/r/seduction13/02/18 06:57 PM
2

Respect
/r/seduction13/02/18 06:55 PM
2

You my friend, are being placed into orbiter mode. Google that. You need to dump her immediately and without any drama. No explanations other than "we both know why". Then work on yourself, you sound Beta and blue as it comes. Train, pickup, then go fuck 10 girls. You've got life ahead of you.
/r/seduction13/02/18 06:53 PM
1

There is no such thing as physical seduction. Seduction happens in the mind. Make sure there is plenty of wine, work up kino on both or the ugliest one. Step back at any sign of resistance. Even though you know them, you still have to build sexual rapport. This is not the "we know each other already" rapport. Rub their shoulders and feet in a non-sexual way. Do one, then the other. Go back and forth, build the expectation. Gauge their response. Warning as soon as they start to feel something (se…
/r/seduction13/02/18 06:50 PM
3

My oneitis haunted me for a decade. Even after being with lots of girls and stuff. It still hurt. Even after how I was treated, I felt bad when I found out she was struggling financially. Fast foward another decade, I'm thanking her for making sure I was not part of her life. I've done so much better for myself than I would have by being chained to her. If I ever meet her husband, I'll buy him a beer.
/r/seduction13/02/18 06:43 PM
1

For anybody that has read Artie Lang's book, he did one of the hottest girls of his recollection, in the back of such van.
/r/seduction13/02/18 06:35 PM
1

And that itself, is a Mistery
/r/seduction13/02/18 06:34 PM
2

Yeh!
/r/seduction13/02/18 06:33 PM
2

I like this, but I'd dumb it down for bar/club noise
/r/seduction13/02/18 06:33 PM
1

Ah! I missed that part, and you are correct
/r/seduction13/02/18 06:33 PM
1

Agree & amplify, well done :D
/r/seduction13/02/18 06:30 PM
3

This probably wouldn't get you into her panties. The point is to bend her bitch mode and then bend her over the couch.
/r/seduction12/02/18 08:54 PM
3

This is an obvious orbiter alert. Put your man pants back on and walk away. You don't need her shit. Once she realizes you are willing to be a man, things may change.
/r/seduction12/02/18 08:53 PM
1

OK, so you screwed up. Don't screw up some more by being needy. Be calm and friendly with her friends, unless something blatantly obvious happens between her and one of her buddies, you keep cool.
/r/seduction12/02/18 08:39 PM
24

Don't. Texting sucks, unless it's used for: Sexting in between bed jumps Setting up a date and time You will only loose.
/r/seduction12/02/18 08:36 PM
1

Nice! My next reply ^
/r/seduction12/02/18 08:33 PM
3

Oh! I should have done this!
/r/seduction12/02/18 08:32 PM
13

Ignore or Agree & Amplify or Flip, the basic rules of shit tests. Ignore is easy, but you gotta have fun with a challenge ;)
/r/seduction12/02/18 08:32 PM
6

Yeh!
/r/seduction12/02/18 08:30 PM
6

Don't do this... you'll sound bitter and that's a big chick turn-off. Even if it's true, you have to hold your frame.
/r/seduction12/02/18 08:30 PM
3

You have to change your perspective here... If you are creating Rapport (trust + comfort), a compliment might create a slight tense situation (if she doesn't handle it well, used to it, etc). Pretty girls get compliments all the time, what makes YOU different than everyone else?! First build rapport, laugh, enjoy, have fun, girls want to be entertained and happy. Then the compliments can come. At some point, she will even expect and demand them, you know?! And yes, if it where up to the regular …
/r/seduction12/02/18 08:28 PM
2

Don't play the 1 girl situation. Keep that in the back burner, follow along, keep playing the field. If it comes to something, good! If not, you never waited.
/r/seduction12/02/18 04:10 PM
12

These have been all field tested: "Neither are you, but your personality just tangled me up." "Shit. Really?! You doooooon't say..." Make an ugly face and "What what?!" Draw face on your hand and ask her to talk to your "ugly face" "Yeah! And you like me! Go figure!" "Shut up and kiss me", pointing at cheek with middle finger prominently displayed Answers should depend on where your banter is at and the type of girl. I always keep everything lighthearted and fun.
/r/seduction12/02/18 04:07 PM
1

I agree, BTW your strong suit is that you keep track of what to correct. Non-closers are excellent lessons if you keep track of them. And I love me some Whole Foods for cute girls! My experience has been 5/7 at Whole Foods will have a BF, doesn't mean you can't hit them up, it just takes a bit more rapport. Edit Try Target (grocery) as well, my success rate is higher there so far. Old Navy for single moms.
/r/seduction12/02/18 03:49 PM
5

Have fun. Be bold. Laugh at whatever is funny, laughter is contagious and secretes good brain chemicals. Hold back the compliments. They come across as needy. Gain rapport and then escalate, this is where most guys screw up.
/r/seduction12/02/18 03:44 PM
4

Dance. Anywhere. Park your car, turn up the music, and dance with her. Touch, get her to feel comfortable with touch. She is probably too shy.
/r/seduction12/02/18 03:42 PM
1

Why did you mess with a virigin!? Even more so, a secular one? That said, the whole thing sounds like it went a bit too easy. That and the whole attachment thing is damn crazy.
/r/seduction12/02/18 03:25 PM
2

I try twice (if the excuse is good enough) and then shun. Surprisingly, most message back in a week or so, with miraculous available time.
/r/seduction12/02/18 03:21 PM
2

I don't have money or status, my hygiene is questionable at times. But I have knowledge, passion, and most importantly, some game. That works for me :D
/r/seduction12/02/18 03:20 PM
1

Are you in the singles section? Most cruise ships have one, or have a singles event (which will also be crowded with couples willing to swing). The approach and techniques are the same as on land. It's even easier since everyone is there to have fun.
/r/seduction12/02/18 03:17 PM
2

I've done this by true mistake (I swear!), followed up with something like "you really have a doppleganger", and chat ensued. I'll try it again this afternoon, this time with anybody.
/r/seduction12/02/18 03:16 PM
1

Asking to crash is very ok, keep your valuables in your car, key on your body/sock. Things usually escalate, but go with no expectations, just have fun.
/r/seduction12/02/18 03:14 PM
2

Grow some balls and hook up. Be assertive, unlike this post. Don't be needy. If you are nervous, don't talk, just look at her eyes and do. Right now you should be texting her a time and date.
/r/seduction12/02/18 03:12 PM
3

She was already tipsy, and I did get laid, but had to be a backseat fuck, because she would have fallen asleep if we had gone anywhere. I prefer them somewhat sober.
/r/seduction12/02/18 02:50 PM
1

I like this!
/r/seduction12/02/18 02:44 PM
-1

You and I are a couple of chipmunks
/r/seduction12/02/18 02:44 PM
1

THIS just all clicked in my head... it makes total sense! When the mother of my children was on the pill, she was all over me. As soon as she was off, she was a whole different person completely. During her times, my blue pill was shiny as I provided for everything and she stayed at home. Thanks for your info.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/18 07:30 PM
1

It's not just about the Alpha/Beta relationship. Once you hit college, your high school buddies will thin out, interests change. Even as adults, when going up the money ladder, our circles change.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/18 07:24 PM
4

"Shooooot... Must be those helium shots!"
/r/seduction11/02/18 07:10 PM
3

The chase is awesome, that's why I still do it, and will continue to do it. "It's not the destination that matters. It's the change of scene." -- Brian Eno "For me, so far, confidence has been a journey, not a destination." -- Jessica Williams TBH, sex gets better with more time with the same person, thats why we all have LTRs. One nighters are the close of the chase, I can only remember handful of backseat fucks or one night stands. But LTRs are true sexual partners.
/r/seduction11/02/18 07:05 PM
1

Exactly
/r/seduction11/02/18 06:57 PM
1

We will go with RG3 (regular girl)?
/r/seduction11/02/18 03:55 PM
1

I agree and it's the premise of the ignore. However, some girls will continue to ask until you say something.
/r/seduction11/02/18 03:53 PM
1

Definitely!
/r/seduction11/02/18 12:18 PM
1

Yes! This and a wink
/r/seduction11/02/18 12:13 PM
1

I get you, but it's too much effort when there's so many HB7+ out there ready to roll.
/r/seduction11/02/18 12:11 PM
1

LOL! This isn't a brag, it's about an HB3 picking up. I've noticed more and more women in Seddit, as well, I think it's cool and says good things about the future of pickup.
/r/seduction11/02/18 12:11 PM
5

If they're questioning masculinity then you have a right to go after femininity. True that.
/r/seduction10/02/18 09:57 PM
9

Last time I was in a similar position, I went with an ignore, she was already tipsy and proving herself a winner in her own challenge. It worked and we ended up in my back seat. However, I would have loved to flip that with something funny... brain empty...
/r/seduction10/02/18 09:38 PM
2

LOL! "I chose you while cleaning out my inner thoughts..."
/r/seduction10/02/18 09:36 PM
2

This is good.
/r/seduction10/02/18 09:12 PM
1

The truth is boring, it fails the shit test. Remember, shit tests are about passing the test.
/r/seduction10/02/18 09:11 PM
2

Good. Now don't get needy. Contact and be casual.
/r/seduction10/02/18 09:10 PM
5

There has always been natural seducers, aka as "naturals". They had the pick of the litter, pretty and charismatic people. The rest had to "work it". Most of the time it was all by accident, things just "worked". However, now with this knowledge, ugly short mofos like me stand a chance. Think of it like how back in the day, only the strongest survived, now it's about smarts.
/r/seduction10/02/18 09:07 PM
2

Then you are one step ahead, and it's just "hi!" and smile. You want to break down the shit uncomfortable barrier and create rapport. And that can be done slowly.
/r/seduction09/02/18 09:24 PM
1

Once you start wining, it is definitely fun ;)
/r/seduction09/02/18 08:42 PM
3

Amen
/r/seduction09/02/18 08:00 PM
2

Yup! Straight out of Mistery Method. I wonder what ol' Erik is up to...
/r/seduction09/02/18 07:58 PM
2

OP is on point. And "it's just" sounds equivalent to "but" to me...
/r/seduction09/02/18 06:05 PM
4

I do day game, and precisely overcoming fear of rejection, shit tests and so on, IS the game. My day game happens at malls, grocery stores, tourist hot spots, cafes, libraries, clothing stores, etc. Bars, clubs, etc are not for me, but it's easy to pickup there, alcohol and the fact that girls are there to get picked up by the right person / gamer, facilitates things. I'm not judging, I do it sometimes. After quite some time of doing this on and off, it's much much easier. However, there is the …
/r/seduction09/02/18 06:03 PM
5

Ah! Makes sense and I would totally fail, being short and NOT attractive. I rely on my game to get girls, I guess if you look good then it's an easy no effort way to work it...
/r/seduction09/02/18 04:24 PM
12

"Nah, I only do that on hot girls." Edit Whenever I've said this, I try to sound embarrassed and even apologetic, then wink or smile. Also, adding link to an image I think about and crackup, whenever I hear a shit test I've consistently passed
/r/seduction09/02/18 04:16 PM
7

Classic and classy, textbook PUA, love it
/r/seduction09/02/18 04:12 PM
2

I'm in my 40's never done app dating, not event website dating. I'm curious as to why not go out and meet someone in person? I hear a lot of complaints about apps, but people still use them. More importantly, how is it even possible to seduce a person with an app? Spare me the old fart crap, this is a serious question.
/r/seduction09/02/18 04:11 PM
1

lol! "A white van with a Free Candy logo on it"
/r/seduction09/02/18 03:06 PM
2

It depends on the context a lot. Have you ever been asked this in the field?
/r/seduction09/02/18 03:06 PM
1

Agreed. I just don't mess with anything that distorts my frame of real life. It's almost like subliminal messages of instant gratification, you see?
/r/seduction09/02/18 03:03 PM
1

This is good, and can be delivered in a sincere way
/r/seduction09/02/18 03:02 PM
2

No small talk, like I said, just walk over say "Hi! I'm Advancedsoda" in friendly but not fake way, that's it. Walk away. Keep doing it. Don't ever ask for her name. Let her give you her name, let her do the small talk, follow along if she does. Otherwise, just walk away before silence or uncomfortable takes over. Eventually, she will get comfortable with you.
/r/seduction09/02/18 02:59 PM
2

the importance of emotional impact I like Jame's Marshall's videos, there's so much stuff out there that I tend to forget a lot of material... thanks for the links.
/r/seduction09/02/18 02:56 PM
2

The fastest times I've gone from pickup to sex has been at grocery stores (and an Old Navy). People have their defenses down, want to go home and cozzy up, close the day. Even HBs have to eat, lol.
/r/seduction09/02/18 02:51 PM
1

Rather than giving you a long winded answer, as a VA long time practicer (11 years on and off), I can tell you the following: People make the mistake of making it there life, not a supplement to their life (you can't survive on vitamins, they are supplements) People go hardcore once they see the Matrix (it happened to me too), find your balance People take a dump where they eat, don't game at your workplace, areas of frequency, etc. Drive out to somewhere you don't frequent. People think it's ga…
/r/seduction09/02/18 02:48 PM
0

Back of the hand, never open hand, gentle taps on the arm. Or ask her to initiate touch, by extending your hands as if to do a dance and let her touch, if it doesn't happen, revert to "are you reading my hands or not?"
/r/seduction09/02/18 02:41 PM
2

I agree, meditation and stoicism are not mutually exclusive.
/r/seduction09/02/18 02:36 PM
2

See, this is your problem... If a girl texts that, even if it was an "accident", you still acknowledge it ("dtf 2"), don't question it, she will immediately put up her slut shield, no matter how slutty she is.
/r/seduction09/02/18 02:16 PM
3

"I drive a garbage truck." Golden! Re "rapport break": Going by Mistery's old formula Trust + Comfort = Rapport, then "rapport break" would be a break in trust or comfort, which totally makes sense! That said, I liked state brake, I equated it to that magic vibe that keeps things flowing a la "the force". But you know more of this than I.
/r/seduction08/02/18 07:33 PM
1

Makes sense.
/r/seduction08/02/18 07:09 PM
6

I just came back from day game, same place, got similar materialistic shit tests, I honestly bombed with my responses. You can sense when the interest kind of dies after you reply with stuff. I'm going to keep going back there until I get it right! So I came back to work ahem and search the web for an answer, and found one (note: this is not mine, I copied it from an old PUA archive): Me: ye i drive a magic carpet Her: huh whaat?? :-) Me: its quite fast, i dont get held up much and the air con i…
/r/seduction08/02/18 07:06 PM
1

How about a Smart car?
/r/seduction08/02/18 07:02 PM
1

Much appreciated! I'd love to see someone come up with a nice flip for this...
/r/seduction08/02/18 07:01 PM
3

Following the PUA rules of agree & amplify or ignore, I think that the proper response for this one would be an ignore. In the field I forgot about that... Unrelated, I praise and often re-read your old reply on shit tests, which is still very relevant.
/r/seduction08/02/18 04:10 PM
2

That car has a bad ass grill, I think she'd have to be closer to 70 know the car though...
/r/seduction08/02/18 04:01 PM
6

practicalpickup.com There are 300+ saves of the site at the Wayback
/r/seduction08/02/18 03:34 PM
10

Thanks! I got a "mine too!" response once and it broke ice. There where eye rolls, too. It's a numbers game.
/r/seduction08/02/18 03:15 PM
2

Here - about half of his posts require pay access, but it's still gold.
/r/seduction08/02/18 03:09 PM
29

My answers tend to get down voted out of existence, LOL. But I can say I have field tested almost all of them, including the following: "An old rusty pickup truck with a serious overbite, call it Mater" "A broomstick" "My very own car, how about you?" "A California king with a pillow top"
/r/seduction08/02/18 03:05 PM
1

Meditation is highly recommended, my friend.
/r/seduction08/02/18 02:58 PM
1

I've been there. Back some years when I began, I saw the heavens open up for me and I thought I was superman and went on a sarge spree. None stop. Until I exhausted myself and even began to experience mental instability. I took some time off, had a few messed up LTRs, and now I'm back. But keeping a slow easy pace. I day game, I choose very specific targets (and only HB8+). Sometimes I don't even close (especially if I have an LTR or 2 in the juggle), it's just to keep the blade shiny.
/r/seduction08/02/18 02:45 PM
2

You are being needy. Chill and get other plans going. It's time for her to wait or you will get no respect from her.
/r/seduction08/02/18 03:26 AM
5

Maybe doesn't mean a thing, because it depends on the girl. I'd say something douchy in a nice way, like "You don't maybe take a piss, you either you do, or you don't. I'll be at X at Y time." Edit: Be prepared for her to not show up, that meant she was to shy to say no. She shows up, you are on like kong.
/r/seduction08/02/18 03:21 AM
3

This is very good, my friend!
/r/seduction08/02/18 03:15 AM
3

Choosing favorites works! A bit more context: As it is common nowadays, girls will tend to go in that cocky mode where you don't know if they are serious or kidding. Like the David DiAngelo cocky funny, but without the edge.
/r/seduction08/02/18 03:14 AM
2

Thanks!
/r/seduction08/02/18 03:11 AM
1

And I temporarily made it one, short lived self doubt. It's good now, though, saw her again today.
/r/seduction08/02/18 03:11 AM
0

The gut, the mind, the penis, all so disconnected. Succumbing to the power of beauty... "And that is why you fail..." She already knows she is beautiful, any random dude says it, it's boring and she probably hates the words at this point. Use the PUA knowledge, practice and focus, get into state. Repeat and repeat, you will stumble, you will question yourself, don't say what you want to do. Do or do not, there is no try.
/r/seduction07/02/18 08:54 PM
2

Don't know, but it's funny
/r/seduction07/02/18 08:45 PM
1

Good point, made me think of something like: No Why? She didn't ask me <i dunno face here>
/r/seduction07/02/18 08:45 PM
3

Can we also make it mandatory for off-site links?
/r/seduction07/02/18 08:43 PM
1

Vanilla thing: I was grabbing vanilla ice cream ( her favourite) and thought of her.
/r/seduction07/02/18 07:29 PM
2

Not a pro or MPUA here by any means, but here's my 0.02: She sounds like she is in a bad relationship and needed a short confirmation that she still can get attention somewhere. It happens. I've hooked up, been told amazing sex and then are ghosted forever. Which sucks because I'm up for more if something was good. I would leave her alone and just do the vanilla thing or something of the sort once every month, keep you in the radar. When / if she is ready, she will come back.
/r/seduction07/02/18 07:05 PM
3

Texting sucks, social media sucks, use it only for minor laughs and to setup a meet. That's it. Girls tend to have a short attention span when on the phone. You do come across as needy, and I totally get it, I've made that mistake often. The only thing that fixes it for me, is juggling a few at the same time, that way there's always something going on.
/r/seduction07/02/18 07:01 PM
7

Nice! Escalating jealousy and stuff like that do work in the field.
/r/seduction07/02/18 06:55 PM
7

This guy is bringing solid come backs
/r/seduction07/02/18 06:54 PM
1

Anything that comes from the school of Mistery is good in my eyes. That phrase is always good.
/r/seduction07/02/18 06:48 PM
3

Yes or no is flipping the coin, you want that 50.01% chance instead.
/r/seduction07/02/18 06:47 PM
4

I like this, FYI I'm using that next time
/r/seduction07/02/18 06:46 PM
1

It would be for myself, I just felt weird about such age gap for a moment. We went out last night and all was good, my friend.
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:58 PM
1

Thanks! I'm past the age of clubs, I'll go to an occasional bar, I'm not a fan of noise, I know - old - but that's me. I mainly day game, I have several college campuses nearby and go to lunch/game at different spots. If I want older, I head to hotel bars at night, I'm in south Florida, so plenty to choose from.
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:56 PM
1

The age question has never been brought up to me by a girl, ever. I was the one that asked this time and it roughed it me up.
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:53 PM
1

I'm probably mentally immature then?! It's easier for me to pickup girls in early 20's than closer to my age. I have no issues even with older women, I don't really care, as long as she is hot.
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:51 PM
2

Revelry is a form of seduction, being comfortable in it, makes sense.
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:46 PM
2

Thanks!
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:43 PM
8

That's the whole point of a shit test.
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:43 PM
4

I've always like that line from the Mistery Method. Still use it.
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:43 PM
2

If you agree, it could backfire and put her off. The shit didn't break, it broke you. If you deny, her friend could be hurt and then she would dismiss you. If you go AFC and do "I'm here for you" kind of stuff, well, we know how that goes...
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:40 PM
4

"Would YOU fuck her?"
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:37 PM
2

I realize that could be a none-shit test, since it depends a lot on context. Also, your answer can either pass you or put you in AFC mode.
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:29 PM
5

I'd go back to Girl 1 and explain the situation: You have the feels, and are ready for her, you feel there's magic and stuff, but she isn't ready. You are ready for a relationship, she isn't, and you respect her, and will politely have to move on. Sit back and watch her reaction - you can't contact her unless she reaches back to you. Be cool Girl 2 sounds like an excellent backup plan! If anybody does a long drive to get me a gift, I'm in.
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:18 PM
2

I agree with the above. Keep going out in the meantime, otherwise you will grow needy and may make a mistake, since she also sounds like you aren't her #1 priority. Respect that and stay cool.
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:13 PM
6

Do a oneitis cure, and wait for her to contact.
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:09 PM
5

I'd flat out ask her what she wants to do with regards to the boyfriend. It's her call to make. It sounds a bit friendzone-ish, because she is getting comfortable and doesn't care. I would also add "I don't fuck my rommate", just to get her pot stirred. If she puts out, enjoy.
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:07 PM
7

I'd sit at the piano back in the day at bars, get people singing. I was too shy to engage anybody directly. Musicians usually got free drinks no questions asked, you are expected to tip though. That said, "cute" isn't thrown around lightly, keep playing the cute card and get her number.
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:04 PM
3

This post is for newbies who have been in game for months and years with no results to show for it. Which is like 98% of seddit. For real!? I'm fairly new to seddit, I've been posting for about a week now. I have been in the game since 2006. I've seen some good posts, and some not so good... We where all newbies once ;) I agree with your morality section, you have to learn a lot about yourself and your feelings towards women. I personally have a lot of respect for women and my priority is for sm…
/r/seduction06/02/18 09:55 PM
2

Field Reports mention steps and techniques, a bit of your thoughts and emotions, but it's just to give context. I keep a personal FR "diary" and keep it as to point as possible, it's good sometimes to go back and "tweak" steps and techniques, it gets cumbersome if there's too much words.
/r/seduction06/02/18 09:52 PM
8

"Nah, I found it earlier on. There's some great midget porn on it though" LOL!
/r/seduction06/02/18 09:46 PM
3

Sexual experience is obviously a factor. At early 20's most of us where still wham bam thank you ma'm.
/r/seduction06/02/18 09:45 PM
4

Good points!
/r/seduction06/02/18 09:43 PM
2

This happens all the time, I've had it done to me, done it myself. IMHO it usually means someone else came into the picture, and that's ok. If you enjoyed your time with her, go have some more, just know that it won't be for a predictable amount of time.
/r/seduction06/02/18 09:41 PM
1

South Florida, Miami - Fort Lauderdale area. I only do day game, my hookups are at night.
/r/seduction06/02/18 09:39 PM
2

lol! personally, next time I'm going with the ice pick from SocialReject101 or stolen phone from ToasterInTheBath13
/r/seduction06/02/18 09:31 PM
1

Don't get me wrong, I'm going as far as I can tonight. So, if at the end of the world, it would definitely be on.
/r/seduction06/02/18 09:29 PM
3

Agreed, we are set to go out tonight, she is a very solid 8. It's just me that is having second thoughts... We'll see how it goes.
/r/seduction06/02/18 09:28 PM
1

I agree, long term it does become a problem, aside from the fact that I'm past my party years and she may be just entering it. However, so far, younger women I've gone out with are quite mature for their age, until drama happens.
/r/seduction06/02/18 09:25 PM
7

That's a friendzone comment, but means she thinks highly of you. If you are having trouble with girls, I would call her my wing girl and enlist to help. Google "marni wing girl" to see what I mean.
/r/seduction06/02/18 07:19 PM
13

I always assume a shit test. Unrelated, remember to always change location and isolate.
/r/seduction06/02/18 07:02 PM
1

Practice, practice. Google "approach anxiety", everyone goes through that.
/r/seduction06/02/18 07:00 PM
-10

I agree, and don't get me wrong, I still use the old Mistery Method "If I wasn't gay, ..." line. It just rings me a bit weird inside.
/r/seduction06/02/18 06:59 PM
4

Golden
/r/seduction06/02/18 06:57 PM
1

"I thought it was only a date?! lol! wait, are you expecting anything from me?"
/r/seduction06/02/18 04:39 PM
2

I've been in this same situation. ManBeast is on point. I wish I had that advice back then. It went from flirting, to making out, to sex in the car every day, to drama at work. Eventually her BF found out FROM HER guilt. I was watching my back for weeks. Looking back, I would have done the same thing - of course - but would have set some boundaries after the first time. Blame myself, take the guilt away from her, and after a few times let her evaluate the situation, if ok, continue.
/r/seduction06/02/18 04:36 PM
-7

Nice! I still feel awkward about the crossing the hetero line, but I know people swear by it.
/r/seduction06/02/18 04:19 PM
2

True, agreed. Back in my early days, shit tests would totally toss me off the saddle, even if I had a good response, mentally it was rough. Now a shit test means (to me) that there's interest. If there wasn't, girls have better ways of dismissing.
/r/seduction06/02/18 04:17 PM
2

Go say Hello, then leave. That's it. Be friendly, smile, no need to do more until you feel more comfortable.
/r/seduction06/02/18 03:45 PM
1

Agree 100% - Girls can be ambiguous and get away with it, guys, we cannot.
/r/seduction06/02/18 03:43 PM
4

You where spared the trouble of marrying her, fights, divorced raped, etc. I wasn't...
/r/TheRedPill06/02/18 03:34 PM
4

Practice makes perfect. Drop the video games and start talking. Hit the gym, practice public speech or drama. Laugh a lot. Fuck that Emo shit.
/r/seduction06/02/18 03:19 PM
4

My response to yesterday's was down voted to nothing, LOL! My STOTD response today: "Not my type, you go get him girl! I'll watch." One more thing: This is a frame knocker, most AFCs will compare themselves to the other dude and wimp out. Stay framed and focused.
/r/seduction06/02/18 03:08 PM
4

I go the spelling bee route, you can't memorize everything, so break down into categories and generalize responses. If I get creative on the spot, it's just asking to fail.
/r/seduction06/02/18 02:56 PM
1

Agree & Amplify: I know right?! You should have seen me as a teen, I was cosmetics wet dream! (big smile and wink)
/r/seduction06/02/18 02:48 PM
1

Start slow then, work JUST on approaches, your close will just be a "hello" or "hi there" and smile. Work your way up, one step at a time.
/r/seduction06/02/18 02:31 PM
1

Old!? I'm in my 40's! I got into seduction back in 2006, so about your age. I didn't rush though, I was just in awe of juggling multiple LTRs and not being laughed off a set. Cheers!
/r/seduction06/02/18 02:29 PM
1

I guess at this point The Mistery Method is considered old school? I still go by it, but run my own self made routines based out of Mistery's.
/r/seduction06/02/18 02:24 PM
2

You have it all wrong... It's about rapport and confidence. Douchebags and drunks just happen to build it, now ask yourself, do you really want to be a douche?!
/r/seduction05/02/18 09:24 PM
1

I do. It's an excellent way to make progress, since you can only make better what you measure. And it's pretty cool to see growth. I've done it privately, however, now I'm on seddit and will start making them public.
/r/seduction05/02/18 09:23 PM
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I'll go AFC here and answer my own post to get things started, LOL: "Hell yeah! This puppy and I go a loooong way back, many girls, many countries... and the charge lasts all day long."
/r/seduction05/02/18 09:22 PM
1

We do this for our own different reasons. I'm pretty sure every person reading this has gotten the desire to make something better out of themselves. Be able to socialize and be with and enjoy their sex life. That's why I do it. I'm still a nerd, still feel awkward and intimidated, but I have stood up to the challenge of doing something with myself. And I'm proud of it. Even more, it has helped in many other areas of my life, including business and professional development. You have to sit down …
/r/seduction05/02/18 09:10 PM
2

There's always a rush of thoughts as you are standing in front of a girl. Field reports like this one are valuable posts.
/r/seduction05/02/18 04:47 PM
1

You are doing it right, my friend. Setting goals for the night (short term) and goals to work on to fix and improve. One thing I realized is that I don't need to be the life of the circle, sometimes just listening and contributing to whatever the circle is talking about, adds to the acceptance. Lowering the stakes temporarily helps gather my thoughts, mentally rest and then re-up game (ask someone in the circle to dance, after rapport build).
/r/seduction05/02/18 04:41 PM
2

Trying out different things is definitely a good way to learn all the skills. Lately I've been trying different openings, incorporating news and even some political stuff. I even tried using #MeeToo as an opener.
/r/seduction05/02/18 04:33 PM
1

I do my practice during my lunch break, and weekends. Only during the day, then date at night. It has worked very well for me like this. You can escalate anywhere, as long as it isn't creepy and you keep it fun and normal. I've grabbed a hand and pretended to be a manicure connoisseur, which I'm obviously not, this turns out to be hilarious, comfortable and you have her hands.
/r/seduction05/02/18 04:23 PM
2

Yup, agreed! I would sometimes call the girl "buddy" as a rub, or greet with a "Hey friend!" and wink.
/r/seduction05/02/18 04:14 PM
1

This is the way. I recommend playing with her hair and back of her head a bit, it can remain friendly and unthreatening, but still relaxes and can be a turn on.
/r/seduction05/02/18 04:11 PM
1

My first time was with a virgin. We didn't really know what we where doing. Later on I really learned the ropes with a woman older (had just finished college) and far more experienced than myself. Looking back, I started the wrong way.
/r/seduction05/02/18 04:07 PM
1

I thought I needed the drinks to kill the edge and get me smooth. Until I saw myself in a video someone took. I wasn't obviously drunk or slurring or whatever, but you could tell I had some drinks. I don't drink anymore when I'm picking up, I worked on my approach anxiety and feel better about myself and most importantly, I'm doing LOTS better with girls.
/r/seduction05/02/18 04:03 PM
1

Sounds like she is in, however, lunch dates are low kino, slow to escalate. Nighttime tends to be better. I don't know if as animals we tend to seek shelter and cuddle for the night. Your texting seems ok.
/r/seduction05/02/18 03:59 PM
3

Actually, that could be played very well, i'd CALL her up and ask about a trist with an injured person. "Have you done it before? Wanna try?" Women like control, too. She'd be in control.
/r/seduction05/02/18 03:55 PM
0

Amen
/r/seduction05/02/18 03:54 PM
1

You are 16, this awkwardness and silence and fumbling and not doing what to do is supposed to happen. Learn from it. Read up interesting funny stuff, and talk about it (don't recite it). Movies is good because you don't talk and then you can talk about the movie.
/r/seduction05/02/18 03:53 PM
2

You guys are right on. Especially the honesty part, "little white lies" is subjective, and can be said to you/myself often.
/r/seduction05/02/18 03:52 PM
2

Looks don't matter (I have NO looks). It's rapport. Build it, escalate with CASUAL light taps on arms, back of the hand, don't hold. Hold a finger. Keep eye contact. She must feel that she is in control.
/r/seduction05/02/18 03:47 PM
3

I was the OP, back in my early 20's. It stemmed from my upbringing. I had to reconcile and balance of seducing, picking up, and treating girls right. The fact of the matter is, you can do all of the above. Respect can be given no matter the circumstance. Girls/women want to be loved, want the attention, and their sexual desire satisfied, just like I'm sure you do. So, you have to work this out on your own head. Give yourself some rules and principles and don't break them. Some of my own: No is n…
/r/seduction05/02/18 03:43 PM
1

While men tend to be violent sexual predators, females tend to be emotional sexual predators. The problem is, in the heat of the moment, you know she's not good, but you still WTHN...
/r/seduction05/02/18 03:37 PM
1

Agree completely
/r/seduction05/02/18 03:34 PM
3

I had something like this happen to me, I was in high school and still very seduction ignorant. She would even do a ring with her thumb and index and "fuck" my index finger, moaning and all. Rubbed her leg against mine and randomly say "I'm wet". I thought the signals where obvious, but when I (awkwardly) do any move, she would say something like "what are you doing!"?
/r/seduction05/02/18 03:32 PM
1

This approach was real. Well done!
/r/seduction05/02/18 03:08 PM
9

I would have tested out her statement, it sounded to me like a shit test. MrFoxyFox has a good come back here, I would have prodded a bit and maybe gone for a full close.
/r/seduction05/02/18 03:05 PM
1

That's why shit tests exist. Because women can shoot you down once they read your intentions (as hard as you try to hide them). Pass the shit tests and you are good. There have been times when an HB11+ has me shaking in my boots, and I'm sure she can tell, so I take the focus of myself and her (look over there!).
/r/seduction02/02/18 07:13 PM
4

Ah! That's the screw up... Don't do that... The answer was "Of course!" and continue cool, don't hide other girls, let her know the world moves on without her. At this point, just pretend you said nothing and Don't Give a Fuck about her existence. If she acknowledges you, or is within a social group, do a friendly nod and smile. The more you ignore her, the more she will question herself. At some point, you won't even really care anymore (I know what you are thinking, trust me on this).
/r/seduction02/02/18 06:44 PM
5

LTR is live in, so we are able to wake up, cuddle and whoop around 5am, before we shower and get ready for work. BTW, that kind of wake up has given me so much day energy, it's highly recommended. Go to work and sext during the day (my text game sucks, but small suggestive messages keep her warmed up for later). If there's a difference in opinion, I talk it out, never give in to her emotions and be solid and just. After work, eat together, cuddle or do shopping (yes, regular life stuff), come ba…
/r/seduction02/02/18 06:40 PM
1

Yes. What's the worst that could have happened? "Not interested, sorry"? Pffttt, move on... "I have a boyfriend", this is a shit test, read Shit Tests Guide. What do you have to win? Lots, obviously.
/r/seduction02/02/18 06:25 PM
1

This is why I hate texting - Crap can and will hit the fan soon enough, somehow. Never beg, cry, over apologize or go on a text marathon. As soon as you do that, her respect for you is done. Apologize firmly, wait for the dust to settle. If it never settles, move on.
/r/seduction02/02/18 06:22 PM
2

"The eyes are a window to the soul..." - Eye contact is key, it signals trust, builds rapport, and creates a connection. When that happens, enjoy it. I'm loudly honest about it, "Listen, I'm going a bit cheesy, but I'm feeling this connection, I want to see where it goes. Interested?"
/r/seduction02/02/18 06:17 PM
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The detailed answer to this has more to do with age / maturity than a broad generalization. However, there are things in common at all ages: Sex, difference of opinion (or escalate that to all out arguments), cuddle, juggling her emotions, doing fun things for her/you/both/neither, and if all is good, more Sex. Or after an argument, more sex.
/r/seduction02/02/18 06:14 PM
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Absolutely! Big smile, waving and best buddies hi five and the whole bit. You never want to be the one with the chip on the shoulder. If she is with friends, walk over and talk to her friends mostly. Be cool.
/r/seduction02/02/18 04:20 AM
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Response was golden! I've gone from fearing to enjoying shit tests, there's always a new test out there, I've even said out loud a few times "That's pretty good, did you come up with that?"
/r/seduction02/02/18 04:17 AM
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Nice!
/r/seduction02/02/18 02:24 AM
1

Do you want her to be a study buddy? or a GF? a lover? Do accordingly.
/r/seduction02/02/18 02:23 AM
1

Good points.
/r/seduction02/02/18 12:40 AM
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Read the text/phone game guides: Guide 1 Guide 2
/r/seduction01/02/18 09:57 PM
1

It's obviously a very personal choice. I keep it at a clean comfort level and only number closing. Also no kino. My LTR is way too hot and way too amazing to loose. I know guys that tell their LTR and even wing them. I know mine would dump me. I really enjoy the rush of seduction, though.
/r/seduction01/02/18 09:55 PM
1

It is creepy, you have to build rapport first. And don't look at her until 3 seconds right before you are actuallyh going to talk to her, staring is even more creepy. Look in the right column and read the Guides, especially "Learning Pickup" and "Approach Anxiety".
/r/seduction01/02/18 09:21 PM
1

I agree, isolate is part of the steps
/r/seduction01/02/18 09:16 PM
3

If you text, focus on a solid plan. Don't give options, don't beg and never again offer to be around. She won't text until there is enough rapport. I suck at text, so I avoid it and just use texting as a tool to establish a location and timeframe. It's always good when a girl thinks your are funny.
/r/seduction01/02/18 09:10 PM
2

[FR] OK, so lunch break run. It totally fails on 1-2 sets, no matter how I spinned it. I even got a face that killed my mojo for a bit. It worked (somewhat) best on 4+ sets, the more the better. I used the "get your opinion on something" opener modified. I never had a particular target, the goal was just to end with a phone close, kept up serious / not serious all the time. The best set went something like this: Me: Hey girls, can I get your opinion on something? HBs: Sure / nods / etc Me: I hav…
/r/seduction01/02/18 09:03 PM
1

You may be right, I'll give it a shot at my lunch break. There's gotta be a way to spin it right. #NewChallenge
/r/seduction01/02/18 05:36 PM
2

That to me is no interest or BS behavior. No matter how hot she is, move on. If she eventually went out, you'd set a precedent of allowing shitty behavior.
/r/seduction01/02/18 05:05 PM
2

It shouldn't. Seduction is never about forcing yourself upon anybody. It's about her feeling comfortable and willing with you, if she isn't, back-up, or eventually go elsewhere. Hint: Why not use #MeToo as an opener? You can spin it so many ways.
/r/seduction01/02/18 04:52 PM
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Begging and neediness is a killer. It never fails, always kills. Women hate it. Take a step back, let the dust settle, let your ex be. Treat your oneitis the usual way. Come back to her a month or so later in a different frame. She will have more respect for you.
/r/seduction01/02/18 04:28 PM
1

I totally suck on text game, so instead, I only use it as a tool to setup a meet and follow ups. That's it. It's easy for them to flake out when all they gotta do is ignore or block you.
/r/seduction01/02/18 03:43 PM
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While they are here, maybe they can contribute to the Shit tests list?
/r/seduction01/02/18 03:39 PM
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I've seen women with hijab, beautiful faces, and I've NEVER approached or even made eye contact. Maybe out of ignorance, but if I see someone displaying such pious poise, I don't want to disrespect at all. It's just about respect. Now I'm thinking, maybe I should start approaching? OP: You are in a channel where most guys would have no issues with race or religion, it's about seduction. Given a chance, those boundaries are gone and the fun begins. My advice: In seduction, you give signals to the…
/r/seduction01/02/18 03:14 PM
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