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| 14 | UPDATE: Just discovered my BF of a year is red pill and can't reconcile between his problematic views and how well he actually treats me... how bad are these views?And then when he shows his true colours and she talks about the treatment, guys like you say, "she should have known what he was like and left before it got bad, that's on her for ignoring the red flags." Can't win | /r/ExRedPill | 25/05/26 02:34 PM |
| 19 | How can i challenge my beliefs that all married men are low status?Who told you marriage is all about commitment, dead bedroom, and chores? It's just a bizarre attitude. If that's how you feel about marriage, don't get married. But other people don't feel the same way obviously. You should start by challenging your very limiting belief that anything can be mimimized to 3 line items that will universally apply to millions of people. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/05/26 02:03 PM |
| 3 | Taking too long to reach outSure but there's a whole social context outside of whatever this situation is (which you really aren't clear about). Women are often treated as damaged goods for having sex and are frequently objectified. Even a girl interested in something casual doesn't want a partner who sees her in that way. She didn't text first because the way you treat her after that demonstrates how you perceive women in this situation. Seems like what you showed her is that it's not how she wants to be treated and it is… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/03/26 01:35 AM |
| 7 | How to desconstruct the toxic idea of "She's settling for you but really wants the "hotter/alpha" guy who didn't commit to her"And to be clear, it doesn't feel like settling to the point that I don't know that the term is accurate. Anyone can sit down and write a list of qualities they want in a partner, and it's unlikely they'll find someone who checks off every one of those boxes. But none of that really has anything to do with dating. People have a few non-negotiables (values, life goals, etc.) but mainly, people are looking for a connection. And when you find a connection, there are either deal breakers and it doesn… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/03/26 01:54 AM |
| 13 | Struggling With My Girlfriend’s Past and My Own Double StandardsWhat is the purpose in asking this question? Like, what answer are you expecting to get here that would be in any useful to you? I ask because this reads as if you've latched onto a stranger's phrasing as a new possible way to feel upset over the situation. Very aligned with what another commenter has mentioned about the OCD. | /r/ExRedPill | 26/02/26 12:59 AM |
| 11 | Struggling With My Girlfriend’s Past and My Own Double StandardsYep, me and my partner definitely wouldn't have liked each other years ago, completely different lifestyles. It has literally no bearing on us now. | /r/ExRedPill | 26/02/26 12:56 AM |
| 7 | If I risk looking like a simp, my gut instinct says just don’t do itAnd how do you think they're going to find out you were awkward for 5 seconds on a date? Maybe just don't tell them that and then the entire problem doesn't exist? These kinds of thought processes are so bizarre to me. Most of the people I've dated, I've never seen again once we've stopped dating. And neither them nor anyone I know is going around providing a play by play of a random date they went on so everyone can judge how "good" someone is at dating. Never. And all of that is even assuming … | /r/ExRedPill | 16/02/26 10:48 AM |
| 6 | Do you think a woman can be with a man who earns less, or does his hypergamy prevent it?So there you go. It seems you are doing the work to untangle the incorrect notions the manosphere has instilled in you. That's great, keep going. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/02/26 06:40 PM |
| 8 | Do you think a woman can be with a man who earns less, or does his hypergamy prevent it?And do you not think women, who according to the manosphere are all absolutely spoiled for choice, would want a man they love for more than something as trivial as earning more? | /r/ExRedPill | 03/02/26 05:43 PM |
| 3 | Do you think a woman can be with a man who earns less, or does his hypergamy prevent it?Bro statistics on marriage exist, you realize that right? Marriage is a trackable, legal process. You are just proving that your opinions are based purely on your own feelings rather than reality or evidence. I implore you to employ more critical thought than this. And I didn't say anything is true. There is no evidence to back any of what you claim, and in terms of reality, I don't know any women who are waiting on a better option to leave their partner or people who are being encouraged by soc… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/02/26 05:39 PM |
| 5 | Do you think a woman can be with a man who earns less, or does his hypergamy prevent it?In a healthy relationship, that is 150% what happens. On a very regular basis. The rest has very little to do with what I wrote. People are getting married less and those marriages are tending to last more, that's fact. You can argue about the causation (though everything you wrote has always been true so doesn't account for a shift) but what's not a fact is people breaking up more due to social media or whatever. That's baseless speculation from pill rhetoric. Also incels have killed people so … | /r/ExRedPill | 03/02/26 03:08 PM |
| 5 | Do you think a woman can be with a man who earns less, or does his hypergamy prevent it?Okay you are using respect in a very different way to how it plays out in relationships, as it affects many aspects of it and is very important for relationship health and longevity. In a healthy relationship, you never lose respect for a partner or if you do, you quickly address it and rebuild it. Divorce rates are dropping so I don't think there is any evidence to support that people are leaving their partners in any significant way as compared to before. Hypergamy is a baseless theory drenche… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/02/26 01:44 PM |
| 6 | Do you think a woman can be with a man who earns less, or does his hypergamy prevent it?In my country, women outearn their spouse in nearly a third of heterosexual married couples. This number is much lower in the US. I live in Canada. Another major difference between Canada and the US is that parental leave for childbirth or child adoption is up to 18 months paid (at least partially), and your workplace has to hold your job position for your return. So not only does my country offer SIGNIFICANTLY longer parental leave, their job is secure, and the paid leave can be taken by either… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/02/26 01:13 PM |
| 9 | Do you think a woman can be with a man who earns less, or does his hypergamy prevent it?I mean unequivocally, you should only be in a relationship with someone you respect. A lot of men who are struggling are misogynistic and incapable of respecting women, which is a big part of why they are struggling. You are probably leaning further into gender stereotypes and pill rhetoric than is relevant to most people, but respect is a key factor in a healthy, lasting relationship. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/02/26 12:50 PM |
| 9 | Did I mess up a one night stand?I mean what time were you planning to go there? It was already 8pm on a worknight and you had given no indication on what time you'd meet her. It gives the impression that you were expecting her to just wait around and be available whenever you feel like. Next time you should arrange a time or at least discuss a time frame. Since you made the plan, she expected you to communicate that. | /r/ExRedPill | 28/01/26 12:30 PM |
| 2 | Ex wife gave me the best gift ever - are all women like this?You can do everything right and get cheated on, it takes a person being willing to cheat. It doesn't take a person mistreating themselves or their partner. OP can reflect on their role, but implying it's likely at least partially their fault they were cheated on is just victim blaming. | /r/ExRedPill | 17/11/25 05:51 PM |
| 3 | Ex wife gave me the best gift ever - are all women like this?Yeah sort of, but I'd stress that attributing being cheated on as the fault of or preventable by the person for selecting a cheater is victim blaming and red pill adjacent rhetoric. It smacks of, "why are women bad at choosing men" when they end up in bad relationships. I also think people that haven't been cheated on, and sometimes even people who have been, like to believe that it is entirely within their control to avoid being cheated on. Like, if they just are good to their partner and choos… | /r/ExRedPill | 17/11/25 05:45 PM |
| 2 | Ex wife gave me the best gift ever - are all women like this?Nah, this is the just world fallacy. Cheaters are cheaters. The issue is within themselves and it is often completely out of the other person's control. OP should reflect on the relationship to see if there is anything he can do better in the next one, but that's what one should do any time a relationship ends. I agree he should see if there were any red flags he missed, but that's not "poor partner selection" unless it's a consistent pattern, it's learning about signs that are not always appare… | /r/ExRedPill | 17/11/25 03:27 PM |
| 8 | Ex wife gave me the best gift ever - are all women like this?Do you not think there are women out there with the same story? Are all men like this? | /r/ExRedPill | 17/11/25 03:24 PM |
| 1 | What to do when women have hurt me the mostAs I said, getting to know people in general. Everyone wants to be around people they are compatible with. You are being really vague about what is happening, but if people are repeatedly taking issue with your behaviour, you should probably introspect on what exactly the behaviours are and continue to work towards improving your mental health. There's really no use in blaming other people for not wanting to be around someone behaving in ways they don't like. That is unlikely to change. And in f… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/09/25 10:53 AM |
| 2 | What to do when women have hurt me the mostYou wrote, "and poof it's all different" then describe how you are intentionally misleading the women about who you are and what you are like. Consider that many of them might think you are the one who is suddenly different, because you are, and ghosting because they feel misled, because they were. Your behaviour changes so their behaviour changes. This is a very common mistake I see men make. I5n dating or getting to know someone in general you have to put your cards on the table pretty early, … | /r/ExRedPill | 23/09/25 10:38 AM |
| 7 | Red pill has me thinking about Trans issuesSetting all of your weird rationale aside, your post screams social isolation. Your descriptions of the world are completely departed from reality. Just like incels, instead of "learning" how the world works from other isolated people internet, at least go out and get to know some people first, learn some social skills. Form some meaningful connections before making life altering decisions based on internet extremism you will rarely encounter in the real world. | /r/ExRedPill | 27/08/25 12:22 PM |
| 14 | How do you guys explain the “16% of young women are virgins while a third of young men are virgins” statisticBe discerning about where you get your information. The National Survey of Family Growth (so, basically census data) reports these numbers as 10% of young adult men snd 7% of young adult women as of 2023. I mean fuck, with the amount of rampant misogyny in the world, too many men who don't respect women are apparently having sex imo. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/08/25 02:02 PM |
| 9 | How do I become fine with being aloneIf your friends get busy, you make new friends. In fact, someone actively dating would be wise to make new friends constantly regardless. The more new people you are meeting, the more likely one of them will be or will introduce you to your future girlfriend. | /r/ExRedPill | 08/08/25 04:06 PM |
| 5 | So what if no girl fucks with you at all?How would you know you are dead wrong if you never asked anyone out? Also all these things you describe, being able to flirt, read a room, pick up if someone is returning interest, these are all skills. You can continue to work on those skills by putting yourself in situations to exercise the skills and observe how other people do it. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/08/25 03:40 AM |
| 14 | My partner (process of ex) became a cult memberSo my ex was not in this particular cult but he did become much more radically right wing right before he dumped me (seemingly out of nowhere) which has a lot of crossover. It was my shortest relationship yet the breakup hurt the most so I can relate. Now I just feel sorry for him. His extreme views are just a way for him to avoid introspection, growth, vulnerability, all the things that make us healthy adults. He's like 38 or something and I suspect he will never change. He's not remotely happy… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/08/25 02:15 PM |
| 17 | So what if no girl fucks with you at all?Men who say this have in reality never asked a woman out or been called a creep and just spend their time on the internet reading extreme stories, half of which are made up or written by bots. Meanwhile, a vast majority of men are out in the world asking women out and accepting rejection with grace and not getting a called a creep. Another, much much smaller percentage are overlooking social cues, not taking no for an answer, or getting unlucky, and then going on the internet to complain about i… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/08/25 12:39 PM |
| 18 | So what if no girl fucks with you at all?Any man who says that shit is telling on themselves that they'd be bad in bed. I wonder how many women pick up on that and steer well clear of him... | /r/ExRedPill | 06/08/25 12:27 PM |
| 20 | So what if no girl fucks with you at all?You miss 100% of the shots you don't take - Wayne Gretzky - Michael Scott So of course you think your chances are 0...right now they basically are. Are you saying you have no ability to connect with women though? Cause in that case, you are yet again missing a big piece of the puzzle. It's obvious to everyone commenting why things haven't worked yet and we haven't seen what you look like. You generalize women, don't know how to connect with them, don't flirt with them, and I'm guessing you don't… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/08/25 12:24 PM |
| 32 | So what if no girl fucks with you at all?So you've tried everything...except actually pursuing women? Do you not think that is a huge piece of the puzzle? | /r/ExRedPill | 06/08/25 08:09 AM |
| 20 | How do I cope with being an Indian American manRacism is real, and someone already pointed out that racism is rampant in incel spaces. Dating is not immune to racism, so yes, the average white man probably has it easier than the average Indian man. Having said that, more difficult =/= impossible, not even close. I know soooo many Indian men, across multiple states and countries, who have no problem at all dating. And this is not a rare thing. So why bother trying to count yourself among the ones who do have problems? Because while yes, racis… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/08/25 10:13 PM |
| 4 | I have a fear of being settled for or being the “safe” choiceExactly, it's such a false equivalency. 99.9% of the time it's a completely made up idea that IF he had met the same woman 10 years ago, she wouldn't have been attracted to him. If you are entering the relationship with such completely imagined prejudices against your partner, you're just entering something destined to fail. Do yourselves both a favour and don't bother moving forward if you are going to harbour that. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/08/25 10:14 AM |
| 6 | I have a fear of being settled for or being the “safe” choiceAnd that's the reality of the life you built, and not women's fault that you aren't running in the same circles as them, right? | /r/ExRedPill | 03/08/25 10:12 AM |
| 9 | I have a fear of being settled for or being the “safe” choiceRight so while you were not out pursuing those experiences and are still choosing not to...those women were connecting with men who were or are. That has nothing to do with whether some girl who had those experiences would have been attracted to you in those circumstances...you literally weren't there. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/08/25 11:19 PM |
| 16 | I have a fear of being settled for or being the “safe” choiceI'll say it again: women do not need to settle. Their priorities change, and they still have options for the type of guy that meets their new priorities. I'm 35, I have more options now than I had when I was younger, and it's actually for a similar reason that you are worried about. Just as women who were more promiscuous or non-commital when younger (those labelled as pursuing "bad boys") change priorities, so too do the men who those women were interested in. So now men who I wouldn't have loo… | /r/ExRedPill | 02/08/25 11:16 PM |
| 11 | Why is interracial dating so frowned upon by incelsI often see incels self-identify as left leaning before spouting right wing talking points so them self-identifying as such in this survey is not surprising. Claiming you support something and openly espousing the opposite doesn't make you what you claim to support. | /r/ExRedPill | 28/07/25 04:19 PM |
| 6 | I’m 23 and heading into my final year of uni. I read a comment that hit way too close to home, and I don’t want to end up resentful in my 30sI really don’t want to become one of those guys who ends up resentful and bitter in their 30s, feeling like the “backup plan” or the one women settle for after they’ve had their fun Good news, women don't have to settle so it's not a real problem. At 35 I have as many if not more options as I did in my 20s. And many women report that they'd rather be single than in the wrong relationship. It's largely a myth to keep lonely men lonely. Because now even if you find love you'll be too busy worried … | /r/ExRedPill | 24/07/25 05:46 PM |
| 14 | Thoughts on the whole “20% of men get 80% of women” line?All of these articles literally disprove 80/20??? Not a single one provides any statistic that in any way suggests 80/20 is any sort of ratio. Including the fact that most younger men are not in long-term, monogamous relationships (60%). And only 25% of men aged 30-49 report being single. Do you plan to stay in your 20s forever? | /r/ExRedPill | 21/07/25 03:02 AM |
| 7 | Redpillers can't fall in loveAnd the thing too is, people who exhibit unhealthy relationship traits don't realize that people capable of healthy relationships will give the unhealthy person and their behaviour a wide berth. The people giving toxic people a chance are very often other people with unhealthy ideas of relationships to unlearn. So when the toxic person is only finding the same toxic people, they mistake this as universal. It can also unfortunately contribute to people continuously choosing toxic or even abusive … | /r/ExRedPill | 17/07/25 07:07 PM |
| 11 | Redpillers can't fall in loveI know it’s easier to dismiss opinions you don’t like as coming from incels but ya know the truth is I’m a successful guy who has a lot going for me and all of this is based on real experience with women. No the truth is you are one misogynistic guy who consumes incel content on the internet and has convinced themselves it applies to their life which is rather sad for the women involved. My point is not if you are one man in real life, you would understand where you've gone wrong. My point is if… | /r/ExRedPill | 17/07/25 04:07 PM |
| 9 | Do women seem picky because many men don't put enough effort into being attractive? (not meeting easily met basic requirements)Without social skills, it's very difficult to connect with other people period. But again, a vast majority of men I met have perfectly fine social skills. The rest is bullshit, different women value different things. Anyone who is judging someone else as lesser than for valuing different things in life is the shitty person in this dichotomy. People cannot be simply placed in boxes of charming, not charming, and social status has very little meaning in an adult world of infinite social circles. Y… | /r/ExRedPill | 17/07/25 02:07 PM |
| 8 | Redpillers can't fall in loveYou are not remotely talking about men irl and it's sad that you think you are. Do you not see the bizarre position of sitting on the internet talking about things you know nothing about and thinking you know real life? Go out and meet actual men outside of the crab bucket and most of them will have no idea wtf you are talking about because most of them will have had relationships that have nothing at all to do with anything you've written. Yes, many relationships end, but men are more likely to… | /r/ExRedPill | 17/07/25 01:58 PM |
| 3 | Do women seem picky because many men don't put enough effort into being attractive? (not meeting easily met basic requirements)We are talking about visibly finding people attractive, which is why I said detectibly. Everything the OP described applies to casually knowing or assessing the men, which is what all of my assessments pertain to. So I would ask why you are so insistent on presenting irrelevant anecdotal evidence. Beyond that, I have personally never interacted with a man closely and could tell they didn't wash their ass, nor have I ever heard of anyone I know having this experience (though of course this wouldn… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/07/25 05:49 PM |
| 6 | Do women seem picky because many men don't put enough effort into being attractive? (not meeting easily met basic requirements)I see these posts online about men and hygiene all the time, but I rarely come across men detectibly like that irl. So while I do agree it seems to be an issue with men more than women, I think a vast majority of people are doing the basics, and the bigger contributor to the perception when looking at a room of average people is that the baseline for effort required of women is higher. IME/O I would guess it's less than 5% of men having a significant issue with this, so in a room with 10-20 men,… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/07/25 04:05 PM |
| 28 | Do women seem picky because many men don't put enough effort into being attractive? (not meeting easily met basic requirements)Imo this is all chronically online gender wars crap that you should disregard. Some women are picky. A disproportionate number of those women are complaining about it online. I'm bisexual. While it's common to find women more done up, in general I would find a similar number of men and women attractive in a given place. I think the idea becomes skewed for many reasons that come into play at different times. Here are just a few: Women do put more effort into their appearance before going out in p… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/07/25 02:30 PM |
| 3 | My boyfriend might be falling for the red pillSorry for the delay...I found his tiktok reposts which he thought were private, they showed that he is a lot more hateful than he lets on. And if he can't even be honest and back his own views, he is never going to examine and change them. | /r/ExRedPill | 27/06/25 05:49 PM |
| 6 | My boyfriend might be falling for the red pillHe probably already had a lot of these views/feelings, you are just seeing the mask slipping. Men like Trump being in power have emboldened men like your bf. Trust me, I get it, I dated a man so similar and in such a similar situation I could have written this. In the aftermath, it's very obvious to me that he hides his hateful ideas not just from me but from everyone, and in reality he is a typical Nice Guy who never lets on how he really feels. I can't stress enough how glad I am that the rela… | /r/ExRedPill | 26/06/25 10:50 PM |
| 15 | Seeing man hating reels on Tiktok and Instagram and my partner and female friends engage with them is fucking with my head.Have you asked your partner about it? Have you unpacked with her why it bothers you or figured out whether you find her personal beliefs problematic? Honestly on social media I like content that makes light of trending behaviours in both men and women but it doesn't mean I think all men or all women are a certain way. It doesn't even mean I agree with or believe the content, sometimes it's just a bit funny. For example that trend of "women in male fields" and then men started doing it back. Some… | /r/ExRedPill | 26/06/25 03:05 PM |
| 8 | What is truly the black 💊?Your characterizations of the black pill is not accurate imo but that's the crux of the issue. There's no standard definition, people define it as they see fit and as it suits them. And then grifters take advantage of the nebulous nature of that to plant ideas in the cracks of understanding and drag people deeper and deeper into a self-serving belief system. Also, in order to be fully knowledgeable on the ins and outs of pill rhetoric, one must spend considerable time and effort searching specif… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/06/25 02:37 PM |
| – | Why don't women text back or text back after a very long time or just ghost men after good dates that sometimes you even kiss?Yes it was luck. You aren't unlucky now, you are experiencing normal dating. I have a suggestion for you, instead of asking why women ghost, ask people how many first dates they went on or people they approached before they met their long term partner. You will find a wide spectrum of experiences, with many first dates well within the middle of the distribution. I get that your experience as a 21 year old have messed with your expectations of dating, so it would be useful for you to survey peopl… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/06/25 01:31 PM |
| 2 | Why don't women text back or text back after a very long time or just ghost men after good dates that sometimes you even kiss?And when women don't give proper replies to my texts for instance, they make me become needy. So they already were no longer interested, and then you are trying to turn a no into a yes. The lack of response is a no. Take it and move on. Having to go on many first or first few dates before finding a compatible match is a much more common experience than your previous relationship of dating the first woman you cold approached. That's literally dating. | /r/ExRedPill | 12/06/25 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Why don't women text back or text back after a very long time or just ghost men after good dates that sometimes you even kiss?She's just not into you. You aren't compatible. It's not about right or wrong. That's how dating works. You date people until you are with someone and you both agree you are compatible. Incompatibility is not right or wrong, it just is. | /r/ExRedPill | 12/06/25 01:03 PM |
| 6 | biggest issue with red pill is lack of alternativesIf you broadly define the goal, sure, it can possibly help generally in some ways. It's a lot more complex though if you look at the actual goal. More or less, these are men looking to romantically connect with women. PUA and manosphere types mostly only give advice that hinders that as opposed to helps it. A broken clock is right twice a day and some men will be lucky and find love in spite of their views, but then you often see their relationships implode if they haven't fully detoxed from all… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/06/25 01:20 AM |
| 6 | biggest issue with red pill is lack of alternativesThey can be taught, but not simply. There's no step-by-step guide where if you do it you are guaranteed a result. You can be given scripts and tips on how to behave but at the end of the day some of it will be up to luck, but a lot of it is up to skill and persistence. In a direct comparison, the soft skill incels are constantly told they need is social skills. How do they hone this soft skill? It's not by following a step-by-step guide, it's by taking some general tips and testing them in a unc… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/06/25 01:13 AM |
| 13 | biggest issue with red pill is lack of alternativesone thing i will admit to is, the red pill at least gives clear concise directions to doing whatever they want you to do I mean, does that really matter if they don't actually help? It's like buying into a scam and insisting it works because it gave clear concise direction even though all it did was rip you off. And sometimes it's not just LIKE that, there are a lot of manosphere grifters who profit off this type of scamming. its like trying to be a doctor and the professor tells you just be con… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/06/25 07:15 PM |
| 9 | How to balance believing women with holding space for men who were abusedSome other comments have explained well the alienation survivors face and I agree it'd tend to be even worse for men for myriad reasons. I guess what I am not understanding is how you speaking about your own experience would be perceived as diminishing violence that women face? Is this something you have experienced and if so can you provide examples? Or is it more of a future concern and in that case can you give examples of how you think that might occur? I'm not asking as a way to disbelieve … | /r/ExRedPill | 06/06/25 01:46 PM |
| 8 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyNo worries, I think most people are unaware of the shortcomings of LLMs. One key is how prompts are phrased can significantly impact how the LLM responds. They tend to be very agreeable, and will stretch facts, use vague phrasing, or straight up hallucinate facts to provide a satisfactory response. I train AI though as a job haha, so it is something we are trying to train out of it. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 04:03 PM |
| 6 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyTo add on, I've tried finding the OkCupid study that everyone references but it appears it's no longer available. But here is a quote about the data from a different source that looked at the data ([https://www.stevestewartwilliams.com/p/how-men-and-women-rate-each-other?utm_source=chatgpt.com](source)) An interesting twist discussed in Rudder’s post is that whereas men tend only to message the women they see as the most attractive, women also often message men further down the good-looks totem … | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 03:59 PM |
| 7 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyaccording to it OkCupid's research shows that women typically only messaged men they thought were highly attractive Link the study. This is not what the study I've seen said. From the OkCupid "study" (blog post) I've seen, it was very clear that while women rated only 20% of men attractive, they were more likely to message average men. It was also clear that while men rated more women attractive than women did men, men were usually messaging the top 20% of women. If there's a different study tha… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Is it possible to decenter women as a man?I am an introvert but I'm also a social person. Lots of people who identify as introverts find socializing exhausting because they are unskilled, which is sort of what you've identified. I am a relatively socially skilled introvert so I am comfortable putting myself out there and meeting new people but it doesn't invigorate me. I need time on my own to recharge. Similarly, my boyfriend is a social introvert who has some social anxiety. It used to be worse but he has spent the past 5 years workin… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/06/25 06:18 PM |
| 5 | Is it possible to decenter women as a man?You need to find an activity that meets on a regular basis and has a core of consistent members that keep returning. Some meetup groups are like that but many aren't, so it's about finding the right one. The key to making friends is repeat exposure to people until you are comfortable around each other and want to keep in touch. For me the ideal group is one with a home base online where events can be planned and some community building happens but that also has in-person events on a weekly or bi… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/06/25 05:01 PM |
| 6 | Is it possible to decenter women as a man?It sounds like you need to do more to meet people. You won't really learn to flirt or connect with new people on dating apps or discord servers, tbh. You need to face to face interactions. And yes, you are starting to get it more re what YOU like vs women. It's important to just continue to reinforce that for yourself. I am not attracted to fit people at all, I like soft bodies. An ex of mine started weight lifting and exercising more and I found myself less attracted to him. I am far from alone… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/06/25 03:49 PM |
| 6 | Is it possible to decenter women as a man?Plenty of men live their life without fixating on women. As someone else suggested, it's almost like you are using what you assume women will like as a placeholder for figuring out what you actually like. Do you want to be fit? Do you want a good job? Do you want your own place? Money? What does something looking good to "women" even mean? I personally couldn't care less whether my partner (who is currently unemployed) has a good job or lots of money as long as he is financially responsible and … | /r/ExRedPill | 04/06/25 03:17 PM |
| 4 | Advice how I can help un red pill my boyfriendSigh, you just keep revealing more red flags. Everyone commenting here was young and naive once and giving you advice from experience. But we all need to touch the hot burners sometimes I guess. Good luck and remember you were warned, maybe that will help you avoid it the next time. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/06/25 01:38 PM |
| 9 | Advice how I can help un red pill my boyfriendwhat sort of uncharitable view of me could he have what should I ask him directly? Exactly this: ‘being around you make me believe that women shouldn’t have the right to vote’ I think you know deep down he isn't joking. And honestly even if he is, it's a really shitty joke to make about your partner. Unequivocally, my current partner would NEVER make a joke like that to me, and he has a dark sense of humour. Even my maga moron ex wouldn't have dared say something so blatantly bigoted. You deserv… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/06/25 09:18 PM |
| 36 | Advice how I can help un red pill my boyfriendSorry but what you describe in your boyfriend's behaviour is trickle truthing. It has gone from "I don't know much about politics" to "I only like Tate for mental health and motivation" when you now know both of those things aren't true. As such, you have no idea the depths of his issues, and you never will. I say this from experience. I have an ex like yours who "wasn't into politics" and "just respected everybody" yet he would start arguments with me using radical right wing talking points. Th… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/06/25 03:22 PM |
| 3 | Telling my father I hate him on a genetic levelI straight up don't believe you were bullied your whole life for how you look, I think you are completely deluded. You are a completely normal looking guy, possibly on the attractive side of average. How about instead of posting weird angles of your completely normal nose, you post some real pictures for people to actually judge? I guarantee you that outside of toxic rating subs, a vast majority of people will tell you that you are completely normal or even good looking. You need serious therapy… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/05/25 02:42 PM |
| 2 | Telling my father I hate him on a genetic levelYour comments about other people are based on crude generalizations and many of them are cruel. You will not convince me that at any point you had an authentically kinder attitude towards others and it makes complete sense to me that you have only got the same back from other people. You can't just be fake nice to people and expect to find genuinely good people receptive to that. You have to actually be a genuinely healthy person to connect with other healthy people. You are very obviously not t… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/05/25 02:36 PM |
| 4 | Telling my father I hate him on a genetic levelLol literally if I took pics the OP does my nose would look much worse and am I not remotely as in shape as him. My boyfriend is not nearly as in shape either. Body dysmorphia it is. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/05/25 12:32 PM |
| 3 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?I think if you made an effort to socialize with other disabled men out in the real world, you'd find many of them do just fine. I know many myself. Also why would women ever need to give up and settle when we also apparently are spoiled for choice? A vast majority of people are in relationships with people they love and find attractive. Most people are not settling. ETA: I am 35 and was very recently single. I still get approached, asked out etc. By plenty of men. I have found with each relation… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/05/25 01:18 AM |
| 6 | Telling my father I hate him on a genetic levelYou are taking that a little too literally. You will see men of all different levels of attraction, including those with similar traits to yours that you consider undesirable. If you truly can't see that, it's a strong indicator of body dysmorphia if you see yourself as fundmentally different (negatively) compared to someone else. Unless you have some super rare deformity or something. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/05/25 01:16 AM |
| 4 | Telling my father I hate him on a genetic levelMan I see your comments all over these subs, I think it's working just fine for you lmao. May want to reflect on that. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/05/25 01:13 AM |
| 3 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?There is not that large of a gap in population size between men and women. So what you are positing is either: that women are better than men on average and choosing to be single since men can't keep up (statistically most people are still getting into relationships, so this is not true of most people) that these men are not in fact average, they are below average and thus have lower rates of getting into relationships compared to average men and women (again, statistically most people are still… | /r/ExRedPill | 02/05/25 05:45 PM |
| 4 | Is it possible to manage relationships with OCD? I also have uncertainty intolerance & needines...You mention trying CBT, so what therapeutic tools have you tried and/or implemented in your life so far? How consistent were you with trying the tools and for how long did you try them? | /r/ExRedPill | 02/05/25 05:16 PM |
| 15 | Telling my father I hate him on a genetic levelI think it's more than a little ironic that you are subjecting your own family member to the exact "discrimination" you are angry about. The flipside of 'treat others how you want to be treated' is that 'birds of a feather flock together'. If you are shallow and cruel, you will only attract other shallow, cruel people. If you actually paid attention to the real world, you'd notice that pattern and you'd also notice many men who look like you but who are kind and of substance are in wonderful rel… | /r/ExRedPill | 02/05/25 05:12 PM |
| 20 | So how should men conduct themselves?Anyone trying to indoctrinate you into a foolproof way of conducting yourself to indiscriminately win over any of 4 billion + people is a grifter. Just think about your own gender. Do you operate the exact same as every other man? Is what won over one man guaranteed to win over you simply because you are the same gender? I get it though, you want some general principles that will have a higher success rate than others. But let me put it this way: being yourself will give you a ~100% success rate… | /r/ExRedPill | 02/05/25 04:50 PM |
| 4 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?Love this | /r/ExRedPill | 02/05/25 04:15 AM |
| 16 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?Exactly, I have no idea why the author of the article has this base assumption that the respect and kindness is both the sole reason the couple got together and the sole reason they split up. It would be laughably oversimplistic if it wasn't also an insidiously predatory conclusion to argue. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/05/25 09:38 PM |
| 23 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?I can't access the second article but in the first article the author makes all kinds of assumptions about why the wives left yet not once were they even able to point to one of their 40 years of clients giving one of these speculative reasons. Do you not think that is weird? The closest approximation to any reasoning provided is the women "just want something new" which is then extrapolated to mean, "a bad boy", again not backed by any input from the women or any real information. Where is the … | /r/ExRedPill | 01/05/25 09:29 PM |
| 5 | Reconsidering my life choicesYou are so terminally online that you believe the world is made up of "teams". Go touch some grass dude. Also stop lying about your good faith, you have demonstrated very clearly that you have absolutely none. Not sure who you are trying to fool, but I doubt you even fool yourself. Good luck in your little online culture wars bullshit bro | /r/ExRedPill | 01/05/25 09:20 PM |
| 3 | Reconsidering my life choicesMy God man, give your ego a rest. You are absolutely raging that someone has posited that your actions and words should have consequences. I promise you that you will never ever change as long as you would believe in oppressing others the second you feel your massive ego is remotely threatened. You are not a good person, you are just confronted with the inalienable truth of the necessity of human rights and equity while you grapple with the selfish fear that without that truth, your rights could… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/05/25 09:13 PM |
| 6 | Reconsidering my life choicesYou are a lot further from leaving those beliefs than you let on in this post, I think. That's not truth either, my guy. It's important to be able to take criticism sometimes. | /r/ExRedPill | 30/04/25 01:50 PM |
| 9 | Im spkraling cause i will never be a hogh value manDating is not dissimilar to a job interview in that you and the other person are determining whether you are the right fit for each other. That applies to all dating no matter what someone looks like. Seems like what you really want is for dating to require no effort or risk and that simply doesn't exist. I think you probably grossly overestimate how common rejection is for everyone. Even the most attractive people go out with people they end up not being compatible with. | /r/ExRedPill | 29/04/25 03:13 PM |
| 8 | What if the 80/20 Rule Isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but a tool to Understand who we're actually compatible with?And to clarify, I asked OP for more info, but the only data I am aware of is the OKCupid blog post. It was not even data on swiping, it was women rating men's physical attraction. The wildest part is that this one blog post doesn't even prove the 80/20 rule. Not that it proves anything, but looking at the entire data from the post suggests the OPPOSITE of the 80/20 rule. Because while women only rated around 20% of men attractive, those were NOT the men they were matching with, swiping on, messa… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/04/25 04:55 PM |
| 10 | What if the 80/20 Rule Isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but a tool to Understand who we're actually compatible with?Which data are you referencing? Because the only blog post I have ever seen about this doesn't actually back up any of what you've written. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/04/25 12:06 AM |
| 2 | How come I want to be in a relationship?Right, so what I am saying to you is that is your anxiety at work. It's common for people to externalize their mental illness to make it feel more in control. "If I could just get a girlfriend, I'd have more social currency and be less upset about that." In reality, worrying about this is a consequence of your symptoms of anxiety. Until you address the mental illness more comprehensively, the symptoms will continue to aspect various facets of your life. It will jump from anxiety about relationsh… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/02/25 08:02 PM |
| 3 | How come I want to be in a relationship?I never claimed they did so I have no idea who you are arguing with lol...I stated you have a mental illness that you need help with. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/02/25 03:58 PM |
| 12 | How come I want to be in a relationship?Humans are social creatures, we value connection. It sounds like you want a relationship because of that and also social currency. You tie your self worth into sex. But the things you describe are all symptoms of anxiety, that probably make you unhappy in many facets of life. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/02/25 01:16 PM |
| 32 | I don't understand how people are attracted to personalitySimple, other people are less emotionally repressed than you. Failing to connect with other people and not desiring relationships because you are afraid of vulnerability is pathological. If you want to understand this human experience, you need psychological help to unpack why you have buried these things so deep. Not only that, I doubt you'll ever be happy without dealing with this issue. | /r/ExRedPill | 24/01/25 01:21 PM |
| 3 | Sabrina Carpenter's music is pulling me close to redpill. (Help me)You never walked in the shoes of everybody yet think you know things. You say you get it here yet in a more recent comment you deny your biases. You need to challenge yourself a lot more than this. Not doing so is what got you here and what will keep you here. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/12/24 03:36 PM |
| 3 | Sabrina Carpenter's music is pulling me close to redpill. (Help me)It isn't because you see a clear difference between Harry Styles and Sabrina Carpenter as alleged representatives of average...that bias is your own. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/12/24 03:35 PM |
| 3 | Sabrina Carpenter's music is pulling me close to redpill. (Help me)Like obviousy fucking not right? So why would Sabrina Carpenter be any different? | /r/ExRedPill | 25/12/24 03:13 PM |
| 6 | Sabrina Carpenter's music is pulling me close to redpill. (Help me)Would you agree also then that Harry Styles is a reflection of the average man and his experiences are universal? | /r/ExRedPill | 25/12/24 02:22 PM |
| 9 | Sabrina Carpenter's music is pulling me close to redpill. (Help me)Do you think Sabrina Carpenter is a reflection of the average woman and that her experience is universal? | /r/ExRedPill | 25/12/24 01:46 PM |
| 4 | My biggest and last insecurity: If you are a loving and respectful partner, how likely is it to get left for a "better" option?How likely are you to leave a partner for a better option? | /r/ExRedPill | 10/12/24 07:23 AM |
| 3 | Things are not what I thought (Musings)You stated in your post that you spent time in those echo chambers and these are your musings so I'm not completely convinced that you framed things the way you did solely to get at the red pilled men. You also are still insisting on holding onto black and white views like "most women like men who are good at conversation" which is seriously lacking nuance. When you adopt really one-dimensional understandings of complex situations like that, it makes you prone to flipping to an opposite view as … | /r/ExRedPill | 09/12/24 12:51 AM |
| 18 | Things are not what I thought (Musings)This is a pretty good start but you are missing some context you could get from listening to actual women instead of just deciding to believe some new thing "no matter what" anyone says. Also adopt some nuance into your life, I am begging you. So who is shallow? Does a guy being tall and rich matter more to a girl than beauty matters to guy? No. Guys care a lot, lot, more about looks. So who is the shallow one? Some women are shallow. Some men are shallow. You can argue which gender is more shal… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/12/24 08:19 PM |
| 21 | How common is it for women to not be sexually/physically attracted to their partners (husband/boyfriend/etc.)? Or, at least, “as” sexually/physically attracted as they had been to other dudes/hookups/ONS/etc.Imo it's intellectual dishonesty to claim there is any one coherent argument. If you want to add your bit as the "overarching claim" so to speak, that just contradicts the element that women have dating on easy mode, cause that would mean they also have a hard time trying to find someone they want to date. They make all of these arguments all at once while moving the goal posts constantly to prop it up. That's my point. Adding one to the pile doesn't make my argument less valid or lacking contex… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/11/24 06:34 PM |
| 34 | How common is it for women to not be sexually/physically attracted to their partners (husband/boyfriend/etc.)? Or, at least, “as” sexually/physically attracted as they had been to other dudes/hookups/ONS/etc.It doesn't even make sense within the framework you got this information from. The same people who will say this is a thing will say women get dating on easy mode and can date any man they want. Why the FUCK would they choose someone they weren't attracted to? The same people who will tell you these contradictory ideas will tell you "alpha fucks, beta bucks." Those same people will tell you that short and ugly men are hated by everyone and given less opportunities than "alpha" men. So why the FU… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/11/24 03:48 PM |
| 11 | Is red pill making me insecure or paranoid?I would be so turned off if I found out the guy I'm seeing thinks stuff like "she's getting railed". She's a human person not a sex object for men. I don't think you are ready to date until you detox some more. | /r/ExRedPill | 09/10/24 03:27 PM |
| 3 | What makes someone red pill?Okay? Lmao. Even if that applied to all women (newsflash it doesn't), "more" can still mean within the same class. | /r/ExRedPill | 26/09/24 01:29 AM |
| 4 | What makes someone red pill?Women in the 60’s and 70’s could credit cards. Practice reading comprehension brah And pay based on sex is illegal in the US, look it you think you are saying something here but you just sound like an idiot. Why don'tt you try researching the shit you run your mouth about before bothering to type all this lmao? Good grief. If you don’t think so then you’re either brain dead or you’re just being ignorant on purpose because you don’t like how mean words, however true, sound .. No I just operate on… | /r/ExRedPill | 26/09/24 01:27 AM |
| 17 | What makes someone red pill?The statistic of women "marrying up" has been declining for decades. Considering millennials are the first generation of women who were born into a world where they could own a credit card without a man signing off on it, this is pretty fucking logical. There is still pay inequality in the workforce. Unless that is completely balanced, it makes sense that this inequality will be reflected in marriages. Not taking these things into account is pretty goddamned stupid. Did you ever actually think a… | /r/ExRedPill | 25/09/24 10:46 AM |
| 4 | Its so hard to not believe in the RedPillI think it's incredibly irrational to live your life based on fear. To live life differently to everyone else because you are too afraid to take risks other people are willing to in order to be happy. I see exactly why therapy never worked for you. You refuse to even attempt to see things any other way, to face your fears and put in effort to find happiness. What a truly sad life to live, I'd feel more sorry for you if it wasn't so stubbornly self-inflicted. You are basically choosing between th… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/09/24 11:21 AM |
| 5 | Its so hard to not believe in the RedPillI scrolled through at least a quarter of the comments and found exactly two from other people mentioning knowing directly of this happening. How much time did you waste reading through 1.5k comments looking for the handful that said the same!? Also if it's so frequent, why is your only example a post from 4 months ago 🧐 You've done all this therapy but have 0 skills at challenging your own irrational thoughts? The fuck happened there? | /r/ExRedPill | 12/09/24 11:15 AM |
| 2 | Its so hard to not believe in the RedPillAnd let me guess, you are doing very little by way of trying to find either and using stuff you read on the internet to justify your inaction? All of that must make you feel very happy and fulfilled in life /s | /r/ExRedPill | 12/09/24 11:03 AM |
| 8 | Its so hard to not believe in the RedPillThis one reads like a bot. Court "seeing" instead of hearing is not a human error. | /r/ExRedPill | 12/09/24 10:59 AM |
| 5 | Advice on relationship with redpill guyGirl I dated a man with a fraction of the hangups your man has and he became impossible to talk to. We broke up because he had a problem with me not accepting his shitty views. Yours will go the same way if not worse, trust me, do not bother delaying the inevitable. If he wants to change he can do so and prove to you he has changed. But until then, live your life. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/09/24 10:41 PM |
| 16 | I took the blackpill and I’m spiraling out of control now. Want change.And lots of women say balls are gross and they don't like working with them at all, what is your point? iwould wager a majority of women are neutral but more women probably don't do much with balls than love them. You're never gunna please everyone, so what is the use in worrying about it? | /r/ExRedPill | 04/09/24 11:29 PM |
| 2 | How can I stop seeing myself as post-wall?I'm 34 and get hit on by 25 year olds an annoying amount as I am not interested in dating them. Sounds like you have the same issue as incels as in you need to meet more people. These are the types of problems that generally can't exist with a healty active social life (though there are exceptions I'm sure). Pill rhetoric is so detached from reality, it's hard to hold onto when it's irrelevant to your day-to-day life. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/09/24 02:43 PM |
| 3 | Genuinely curious, what’s obsession with women and sex?i don't think you quoted the right things. I also never said anything at all about who wants sex more between men and women so not sure who you are arguing with. You can speculate about counterfactuals all day long, but that’s not reality. bro everyone here is well aware that you don't live in reality so this is just peak irony. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/08/24 05:11 AM |
| 18 | Genuinely curious, what’s obsession with women and sex?You imply women aren't as interested in sex because they can get it easily. Counterpoint, maybe if sexual experiences were more likely to be safe and satisfying for women, they'd want it more. Also it's not hard for most men to get, that's chronically online bullshit. On the whole most people are having sex and nearly half of the people who aren't are not trying to. And in my experience, a significant portion of the men that aren't but want to are also not trying to lol. | /r/ExRedPill | 24/08/24 02:20 PM |
| 11 | Why is there always so much pushback to young men who claim that the reason they can’t get a date is 100% the way they look?As a fairly successful, pretty intelligent woman, I have found men equally if not moreso turned off or threatened by these things. Men don't have that issue. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/08/24 02:00 AM |
| 6 | Why is there always so much pushback to young men who claim that the reason they can’t get a date is 100% the way they look?I am 95% sure he is the guy I have seen photos of as his story is very specific and if it's him, it's definitely not his looks. but you look at some and think "what the actual fck, how obnoxious must this guy be not to get a date?" He is quite attractive but I'll be generous and say that since he is below average height he probably would face some rejection. Plus his location is a huge constraint. Nonetheless I think his personality on display frequently on these subs though has me going ah, yes… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/08/24 09:31 PM |
| 11 | Why is there always so much pushback to young men who claim that the reason they can’t get a date is 100% the way they look?I am 95% sure. He has a very specific story. There was another account either earlier this year or late last year with the same specific story who shared photos and he was (surprise surprise) completely normal looking and I personally found him quite physically attractive. I've searched through the two subs he posts on but it seems that account was completely nuked. I doubt I am the only person who remembers this guy though. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/08/24 09:28 PM |
| 1 | Why is there always so much pushback to young men who claim that the reason they can’t get a date is 100% the way they look?Imagine quite clearly not interacting with anyone who has experiences like this in real life and spouting bullshit about "facts". It sounds pretty fucking dumb my guy. You are a sad, angry person devoid of empathy for others. Stop taking bitter pills before you waste your whole life in this pathetic rage filled fantasy world on the internet. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/08/24 04:03 PM |
| 30 | Why is there always so much pushback to young men who claim that the reason they can’t get a date is 100% the way they look?You are a liar, you are rude and hostile, and frankly you come off as a complete idiot lol. These traits are essentially universally disliked. You can pretend you are on your best behaviour around others all you want, but it's like that common refrain of "observe how they treat the serving staff, it shows who people really are". This is how you act and treat people when you think their opinion doesn't matter. I bet it's pretty easy to pick up on irl because you seem to lack serious awareness abo… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/08/24 04:01 PM |
| 39 | Why is there always so much pushback to young men who claim that the reason they can’t get a date is 100% the way they look?Lol, men are absolutely not slapping women in the face then asking them out and getting dates you ignoramus. Touch grass. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/08/24 01:56 PM |
| 7 | Feeling the need to rack up a high n count as a man to compete with women on dating appsFunny how the people who most often say this are misogynistic inexperienced men though. The reason why you have a preference can be problematic and in this case, people are rightly identifying OP's reasoning as an issue. If you read his post and don't see that, you are the type of misogynistic asshole I am talking about, but that was already obvious by the slut shaming. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/08/24 01:50 PM |
| 43 | Why is there always so much pushback to young men who claim that the reason they can’t get a date is 100% the way they look?Who told you it only requires a few weeks of effort to find a partner? ETA: oh, it's you. Everyone here sees your shitty personality on display on a weekly basis, you can't convince us its "objectively" your looks. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/08/24 01:47 PM |
| 7 | Feeling the need to rack up a high n count as a man to compete with women on dating appsSome of you really just make shit up in your head then convince yourself it's true and it's absolutely wild. I am begging y'all to practice just a little more critical thought than this. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/08/24 04:10 AM |
| 10 | "The Ick"When you are in a relationship, there will unequivocally be things you don't love about your partner. Be prepared for that. Women mention those things - usually lightheartedly - in this trending meme about "the ick". If you don't want a girlfriend that would make jokes like that, simply don't date one. It's not a hugely common thing in the grand scheme of things, but lightly deprecating jokes between/about partners is not uncommon either. Just as you will choose traits you value in a partner, be… | /r/ExRedPill | 26/07/24 03:27 PM |
| 9 | Lowkey wish I was a womanI mean, I am in my 30s. Absolutely no one I know is calling a grown ass man "gay" for any life decisions. I know men who have stayed home with the kids, now and 20 years ago. Most of feeling emasculated does come from within. It's a fear of how one will be perceived and not a real experience of being emasculated. For instance, a lot of my exes have been uncomfortable when I pay at restaurants. They felt emasculated because they feel like the man is supposed to pay and people are judging. Nobody … | /r/ExRedPill | 26/07/24 09:30 AM |
| 25 | Lowkey wish I was a womanFunny thing is I was thinking that since I outearn my ex maybe he would stay home with the kids. He dumped because he constantly felt threatened by my higher status, go figure. I'm far from the only woman who has a story like this. Many men find anything other than being the breadwinner/superior emasculating. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/07/24 11:06 PM |
| 17 | Why is it so hard to find ugly girls that like ugly guys?You wrote days ago that there are only 4 women in your area you could possibly date and you are trying to match with women who live 1.5-2 hours away. Most people will not be interest in that arrangement and are looking for someone local. Your posts are so inconsistent and all over the place, it feels like we are not getting the whole story. Also 80% sure I have seen photos of you on a previous account and that you are pretty good looking. | /r/ExRedPill | 21/07/24 01:31 PM |
| 2 | Going to sex workers.And just look at OPs attitude towards women and sex, I am more pro sex work than many comments here but his attitude is very gross and pathetic to me. "I don't want to put in the effort to use women as fleshlights for free, and I definitely don't want to actually connect with women, just use their bodies for pleasure. So I can just pay for it, right?" This is why a lot of women are wary of men who have paid for sex. It very often speaks to how they view women. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/07/24 12:49 PM |
| 12 | How do I keep a woman?Any tips while I'm trying to figure out how exactly I fucked up? Uh yeah, fucking believe the woman when she tells you her reasoning instead of wracking your brain trying to invent something. Super fucking simple. | /r/ExRedPill | 09/07/24 12:55 AM |
| 13 | How are you supposed to "add value" in an adult relationship?How would a relationship add value to your life? | /r/ExRedPill | 08/07/24 06:05 AM |
| 12 | What do you guys think about Sadia Khan?she made a few valid points about the recent trend of toxicity from both men and women How ironic when one of the first flags for toxic women in my experience is talking about "high value men". Definitely makes her sound like a grifter to me, shifting her attitude to sell to a specific audience. | /r/ExRedPill | 28/06/24 11:46 AM |
| 8 | Can short men ever be sexually attractive?I had a few month casual fling with a guy that height. He's married to a woman quite a bit taller than him now. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/06/24 06:07 PM |
| 20 | CMV: Why would a woman even care?at least think I know how people think. And those assumptions are clearly based on how YOU think. You thinking these messed up ideas are normal just shows how far from normal you actually are. You should think again about the idea that everyone thinks with your depravity. A vast majority don't, and those people are dating. The sample you get this idea from are failing to connect with other people just like you are. Now, gee, I wonder why that could be. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/06/24 01:40 AM |
| 2 | Why shouldn’t I just give up honestlyAlso the whole "any warm body will do" attitude or "I'll use your body for sex but I don't want to actually date you" is not the compliment or "being found attractive" that clueless men think it is. I have been used far more than I've been valued. | /r/ExRedPill | 14/06/24 02:49 AM |
| 3 | Why shouldn’t I just give up honestlyIt's worth considering whether any other unrealistic expectations are holding you back or making you unhappy. Not saying that is definitely happening, but it is pretty common around here. | /r/ExRedPill | 13/06/24 07:00 PM |
| 6 | Why shouldn’t I just give up honestlyIt's so bizarre how much you pretend to know about women when you have acknowledged you barely interact with them. I hope most of the OPs you give cynicism to realize that you are giving them terminally online gender war crap. | /r/ExRedPill | 13/06/24 05:04 PM |
| 6 | Why shouldn’t I just give up honestlyWhat led you to believe that? I think it's useful to ask yourself that, as forming realistic expectations is important for contentment. | /r/ExRedPill | 13/06/24 04:56 PM |
| 17 | Why shouldn’t I just give up honestlyBoth lie about peoples chances of changing their standing. I’ve been going to the gym for one year, therapy for longer, I’m sociable and able to hold a conversation. Five first dates this year, five rejections. If you asked people in this group how many first dates people have on average before finding a partner, most people will tell you a dozen or more is completely normal. I don't know of anyone here who would tell someone "finding a partner in 6 months is a realistic and achievable goal." I … | /r/ExRedPill | 13/06/24 11:38 AM |
| 2 | I can't fit the female gazeOkay so you don't actually care to understand it and just want to use it to validate your insecurities. Good luck with that. | /r/ExRedPill | 12/06/24 02:32 PM |
| 2 | I can't fit the female gazeCool, I may as well just repeat most of my comment because most of this has nothing to do with what I said. You need to research the female gaze more as you are not understanding the concept at all. Someone else also took the time to explain it to you. What you are doing instead ironically is filtering the theory of the female gaze through the male gaze. | /r/ExRedPill | 12/06/24 02:22 PM |
| 4 | I can't fit the female gazeYou need to research the female gaze more as you are not understanding the concept at all. What you are doing instead ironically is filtering the theory of the female gaze through the male gaze. Like, how many of the videos you watched are created by women? I'd love to see what you watched vs how you have interpreted it here. | /r/ExRedPill | 12/06/24 11:55 AM |
| 16 | Regarding condescensionThere are a lot of aspects of how minds change that are affected by methods of persuasion that don't rely on factual evidence or empathy. The certainty of their beliefs are based on emotion, and can therefore be reached with emotions. Which emotions will effectively reach them really depends on the stage they are in. Here are some examples of why a method different to the one you believe in might be effective, based on research on how minds change. Research shows that in the face of new informat… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/06/24 10:36 AM |
| 8 | According to a software engineer working with dating apps, women are absolutely much more picky than men areI have seen a few men online claim this, including posting photos of the conversations. The thing is, it's not like they meet any of these women. It's not like the conversation goes very far. Do you guys have any idea how many profiles are bots or OF girls? Quite a lot. I am talking a quarter or more by many estimates. Sure, some of those are actually women but a) those types of experiments are very flawed for the above reasons and b) all it proves is the women matched with and entertained them … | /r/ExRedPill | 07/06/24 01:14 PM |
| 10 | According to a software engineer working with dating apps, women are absolutely much more picky than men areSo basically many of the attractive guys are simply good at making profiles Probably. I see most women complaining about low effort profiles. I see lots of profiles where men didn't bother providing half the information available to provide. Why would I bother matching with a man who couldn't be bothered to be upfront about whether he has children or what kind of relationship he is looking for when I can focus on men who have already communicated with their bios that we are generally aligned? I … | /r/ExRedPill | 07/06/24 01:06 PM |
| 32 | According to a software engineer working with dating apps, women are absolutely much more picky than men areWell obviously, any explanation for a trend is speculative when they aren't social scientists conducting surveys. And to add to the anecdotal evidence, personally I would say I find 70-80% of men whose profiles I view sufficiently attractive to consider dating. Most profiles I swipe left on are due to the following reasons: priorities don't align, some sort of dealbreaker on their profile (for example smoking), profile lacks information, photos don't give a good idea of what someone looks like. … | /r/ExRedPill | 07/06/24 11:04 AM |
| 14 | According to a software engineer working with dating apps, women are absolutely much more picky than men areDid you read any of the comments on the thread? Lots of people explained it pretty well. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/06/24 10:28 AM |
| 2 | Is there any good men left who don’t shame women or want to control them?It's an extremely chronically online take to think "a lot" of dudes are redpilled. Vast majority of men are normal dudes with normal relationships with women. Let's not normalize this shit. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/06/24 04:13 AM |
| 2 | Is there any good men left who don’t shame women or want to control them?Lol hmmm, sort of seeing why good men aren't finding you. Good luck with that bestie | /r/ExRedPill | 07/06/24 04:11 AM |
| 2 | Is there any good men left who don’t shame women or want to control them?Well all of my comments had qualifiers such as "may" and "when" so if you took it personally, again, might be worth reflecting on. And to reiterate, asking an incel sub if there are any good men left is an extremely bizarre choice. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/06/24 04:05 AM |
| 5 | Is there any good men left who don’t shame women or want to control them?I feel I kind of have to point out that if you are asking this question on this sub, you may want to ask yourself whether you are looking for men in the right places. And a similar issue that incels have is that you have to set and maintain your own boundaries. When you don't do that, you don't feel respected because you are not respecting yourself. To answer your question, yes there are good men out there but there are also a lot of good men out there that you aren't compatible with. In order t… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/06/24 03:49 AM |
| 18 | İ dont know how to deal with this mindset which makes me feel insecure..Not everything you think is logical or rational, sometimes it's just a feeling. You can let yourself feel it for a moment then remind yourself it's just an irrational fear. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/06/24 01:35 PM |
| 18 | İ dont know how to deal with this mindset which makes me feel insecure..Considering that - you included - not all men are jerks, do you not think it's only logical that not all women would be into jerks? There are all different types of men and women who want different things. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/06/24 01:17 PM |
| 5 | Is it really true that attractive men often have sex with different partners?This comment section is a mixed bag. You'll have to decide how many of these comments are just men wishing they had the option for hookups projecting their experience onto other men with no evidence. it's hard for me to believe that the mere fact that someone was born handsome makes him automatically want to have only sex instead of wanting to get into a relationship... In my experience, you are correct not to believe that. I have a ton of guy friends. Many of them are not and never have been in… | /r/ExRedPill | 29/05/24 11:13 AM |
| – | The mental damage has been done but still looking to escapeMeetup.com has many large and active meetup groups in your area. | /r/ExRedPill | 28/05/24 02:11 PM |
| 8 | "Men need to be confident to get a relationship. Women do not."My very recent ex is not confident in himself at all. That didn't stop me from seeking him out, getting to know him, and starting a relationship with him only for him to break up with me probably because his issues are far more deep seated than he even lets on. You are conflating confidence with a lot of the skills that can find someone in a relationship. In this case, my ex has good social skills. He didn't need to be confident, he just needed to be out in the world and receptive and know how t… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/05/24 12:47 AM |
| 1 | How can I get into a relationship as a male virgin at 25? How should I address this if I get into a relationship? How should I go about that when the time comes?It so true, a lot of age groups for my range are 20-35 or 25-35 type of deal. I'm not trying to hang out with 20 year olds. I have no idea why there aren't more 30s groups...I guess there's less market for it. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/05/24 10:46 PM |
| 5 | How can I get into a relationship as a male virgin at 25? How should I address this if I get into a relationship? How should I go about that when the time comes?100% I'm 34 and I find a lot of age cut offs for social stuff is either 34 or 35 so I am nearly aged out, quite annoying. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/05/24 10:00 PM |
| 6 | How can I get into a relationship as a male virgin at 25? How should I address this if I get into a relationship? How should I go about that when the time comes?I am decent looking but not at the level where apps would work for me as a man. You describe getting several dates on the apps...what is that if not the apps working? It served its literal purpose for you, that seems like the definition of them working. meetup type stuff is usually older folks. Where did you get that idea? In my experience it skews younger. There is limited information here but it seems your issue is unrealistic expectations of how things work that you need to challenge. how sho… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/05/24 04:10 PM |
| 2 | I feel like I've done literally everything possible in my power to hedge my bets with women and dating and it's never matteredSo what does male to male shallow friendships matter? If you find you can't connect with men, connect with women. Unless you are saying the issue is you personally as a man struggling to foster those types of relationships. That's a mindset that can be changed. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/05/24 06:01 PM |
| 3 | I feel like I've done literally everything possible in my power to hedge my bets with women and dating and it's never matteredI have seen a photo of him (assuming this OP is tallpromotion's alt). He is a perfectly fine looking dude, he's pretty cute actually. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/05/24 01:38 PM |
| 3 | I feel like I've done literally everything possible in my power to hedge my bets with women and dating and it's never matteredYou know you can be friends with women right? | /r/ExRedPill | 18/05/24 01:35 PM |
| 12 | If socializing is really the only thing that makes or breaks a guy dating than what happens if you don't have that many options or outlets for socializing?I mean, do you live in New Jersey? (based on your post history) Probably 95% of dudes who say they have no opportunities for socializing just haven't looked hard enough. If you are in one place and not putting in effort to find social outlets, moving to another place and putting forth the same amount of effort - or lack thereof - is unlikely to change your situation. It's often just an excuse to avoid making that effort now. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/05/24 01:31 PM |
| 1 | I'm beginning to not care anymoreDo you understand the purpose of a question mark? | /r/ExRedPill | 08/05/24 12:29 PM |
| 1 | I don't get what's so wrong with that not one girl can be attracted to meIf you understand all of that, not sure why you are arguing with my comment pointing out why the comparison is not useful. You pulled the 'healthy place' curtain over the implication that not all effort is equal, which would put in question your position of being qualified. You have no idea what effort I also had to put in to be capable of healthy relationships yet instead of even thinking about or any other efforts I put in, you accuse me of requiring no effort. I think that says a whole lot ab… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/05/24 07:05 PM |
| 10 | "You're the type of guy women will only appreciate when you get older"That sucks and yeah as a comment it's pretty disrespectful to you and others. It's just based on stereotypes and assumptions. It's also true though that generally women your age were probably not looking for the same thing when you were younger. Has nothing to do with interest in you personally but that you wanted different things. At all stages of life, it's important to find someone with the same priorities and values. People grow and mature overtime and once you are in a committed relationshi… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/05/24 02:01 PM |
| 28 | "You're the type of guy women will only appreciate when you get older"It sounds like when you were younger you had different priorities than most people your age? People get similar comments like "old soul", it usually means you aren't doing the fun and fancy free stuff other young people engage in. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/05/24 01:51 PM |
| 2 | I don't get what's so wrong with that not one girl can be attracted to meThat's exactly why I qualified it with "healthy" relationship. A healthy attitude towards relationships and fostering healthy relationships is a very specific effort. Practically the very first step of that is accepting that you can't just hit the right buttons and acquire healthy relationships with other people. Inherently, everyone who doesn't have a relationship must put in more effort, because everyone does so Incorrect. Some people must put in more effort to get to a healthy place and that … | /r/ExRedPill | 04/05/24 01:05 PM |
| 3 | I don't get what's so wrong with that not one girl can be attracted to meYes I think it's most common to have a very small social circle of a handful of people. I have a lot of friends and I also make new friends consistently. Same as you, not meant to brag, I thought that was normal but seemingly it is not. I know through experience that getting to know different people "closely" gives you a lot of perspective on how different each person's experience is. I think a lot of men in these spaces are so convinced that the manosphere crap they read online is universal so … | /r/ExRedPill | 04/05/24 12:49 AM |
| -1 | I'm beginning to not care anymoreWhile the idea that he needs to create real actionable change When I asked initially, I expected him to have some idea as to how it applies to his life. When he put 0 effort into figuring that out or trying to understand what I was saying, I responded in kind 🤷♀️ You are entitled to your opinion. He asked for feedback on his mindset, my point was it's more helpful to think of how the mindset will actually apply to life, which you seem to agree with. Without that aspect, it's just tire kicking a… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/05/24 11:57 PM |
| -1 | I'm beginning to not care anymoreTo do what? Sit in your room all day? ETA: I'm asking you repeatedly how your mindset actually affects your life. Your actions, your interactions, your day-to-day choices and behaviours. You have absolutely no clue. What is the point of pontificating on this stuff if it doesn't change your life in any meaningful way? | /r/ExRedPill | 03/05/24 11:16 PM |
| 6 | I don't get what's so wrong with that not one girl can be attracted to meI'm talking about acting as if women/relationships are something you acquire. Relationships with other people are not a lack of bread to cake. They require effort and maintenance. Someone who has put in effort to find and maintain a healthy relationship is as qualified to speak on it as anyone. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/05/24 11:15 PM |
| 4 | I don't get what's so wrong with that not one girl can be attracted to meActing as if women are food says a lot about how detached you are from relationships with other people. That's not how they work. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/05/24 10:23 PM |
| 10 | I don't get what's so wrong with that not one girl can be attracted to meYet you meticulously delete your history so that conflicting information can't be corroborated 🧐 Curious. What is the point of wasting all this time with exaggerations and arguing with strangers, I wonder. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/05/24 10:21 PM |
| 8 | I don't get what's so wrong with that not one girl can be attracted to meAnd I don't believe you can maintain "close" friendships with something like 30 people as he is claiming. It's likely a mix of exaggeration and a very different definition of "close" friends than I have. I don't have the uncharitable views of "close" friends that he has. My statement was broad because regardless of whether his view is distorted or he is being dishonest or both, it's a waste of time to give advice to someone who refuses to even examine that. Especially if he is 2 accounts as peop… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/05/24 10:10 PM |
| 10 | I don't get what's so wrong with that not one girl can be attracted to meSo are you claiming you have been completely honest? | /r/ExRedPill | 03/05/24 10:01 PM |
| 31 | I don't get what's so wrong with that not one girl can be attracted to meThe information you provide is potentially fantastical, at best extremely biased. You have a lot of shitty feelings about your friends yet claim they are "close". You constantly wipe your post history to make new claims in hopes of a miracle answer. I don't believe you have 18 close female friends. I don't believe all of your male friends are tall and/or handsome. I don't believe you have a thriving social life while also possessing such a one dimensional view of other people. Start holding your… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/05/24 08:55 PM |
| 0 | I'm beginning to not care anymoreIf your mindset has no utility at all in how you live your life, what is the point in investing any energy into shaping it? | /r/ExRedPill | 03/05/24 08:27 PM |
| 2 | I'm beginning to not care anymoreIsn't it already explained? Not even remotely? That has affected your life how? How are you now going to behave differently? You can try to have whatever mindset you want, but what matters is what you actually do with it. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/05/24 08:03 PM |
| 2 | I'm beginning to not care anymoreHow does any of this translate to your day to day life? | /r/ExRedPill | 03/05/24 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Should women prove themselvesFrom my experience, the women that really liked me would put in extra effort to communicate with me. If I had to put extra effort for a woman, more than likely she wasn't that interested in me to begin with Exactly...so instead of making it into a gender culture war...everyone should just be getting to know people who are enthusiastically getting to know them in return...that's literally dating. Anyone who is trying to convince someone to reciprocate the enthusiasm is choosing to do that. Men an… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/05/24 06:36 PM |
| 6 | Should women prove themselvesTwo people get it started together? This is a pretty common way relationships start. Both people take turns escalating. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/05/24 01:55 AM |
| 9 | Honestly, I'm beginning to lose sympathy for my female friends when they get mistreated by attractive menYes I think that "personality" has been used as a catchall for anything that isn't physical, basically, but it's much more complex than that. A huge portion of the time, "personality" is really meaning unchecked mental illness. | /r/ExRedPill | 29/04/24 11:48 AM |
| 5 | Honestly, I'm beginning to lose sympathy for my female friends when they get mistreated by attractive menI mean, you are probably speaking on behalf of the "ugly men" you are defending. You are demonstrating very little ability to empathize with any experience outside of your narrow worldview to the point you can't even read and take in new information. You are yourself a contradiction of your own words. | /r/ExRedPill | 29/04/24 11:46 AM |
| 21 | Honestly, I'm beginning to lose sympathy for my female friends when they get mistreated by attractive menProbably 95% of single guys I have interacted with that complain about being single are holding up red flags they refuse to examine. Online and offline both. The dichotomy of "ugly men are lonely" and "attractive men have 3 women lined up to fuck them" is also completely false. Most people are average looking, first of all. Secondly, plenty of incels are pretty conventionally attractive men. There are a lot of reasons someone has trouble dating and a lot of the time it has very little to do with… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/04/24 02:43 PM |
| 12 | What are examples of women caring for their husbands / bfs when it's not tied to the man's status or money?How about the statistic,and%20home%20life%20remains%20unbalanced.) that nearly half of all marriages in America have spouses earning either equal wages or the wife earning more? You need to stop basing your reality on social media and start living your life instead. Hearing this kind of stuff is laughable to anyone with a healthy social life. We all know all kinds of couples with all different dynamics. Time to detox. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/04/24 10:39 PM |
| 12 | I think the cure for inceldom for most incels is a purely sexual casual encounter.You are absolutely not a good dateable man. I think in your heart of hearts even you know that. You could be, but you're not. Good luck with all this bitterness and pathetic blaming of everyone under the sun except yourself though. I'm not buying it, I'm not even buying that you buy it. What a sad way to live. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/04/24 03:49 AM |
| 11 | I think the cure for inceldom for most incels is a purely sexual casual encounter.Personally I find racism and misogyny to be about the lowest quality there is. Maybe many of the women you're mad won't sleep with you are of a similar opinion. I'm more sure you'll prefer to believe your own hateful self-soothes instead of considering that though. I am also thankful we live in a time where women across the globe are becoming more and more empowered to escape oppressive men. Men with your mindset are getting left behind, adapt or die out. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/04/24 02:55 AM |
| 16 | I think the cure for inceldom for most incels is a purely sexual casual encounter.I mentioned celebrities because there are many of them like this and it's along the same lines as thinking famous people can't be depressed etc. If you have problems, nothing other than addressing those problems will fix it. A vast majority of incels have problems they aren't addressing that have nothing to do with sex and if they didn't have those problems, they'd probably be having sex. You can't fix the problem by treating a consequence of it. I'm not speaking from a stereotype, I have known … | /r/ExRedPill | 22/04/24 11:52 PM |
| 20 | I think the cure for inceldom for most incels is a purely sexual casual encounter.There are extremely famous men, many of them, who chased this validation endlessly until the day they died. I agree with you, it rarely fixes anything. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/04/24 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Idk how to not be bitter that I will never be desired in the same way attractive men areYou understand attraction about as much as OP does. Which is to say, not at all. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/04/24 11:45 PM |
| 3 | I'm considering leaving my friend group because it's too hard to see them succeed so much where I can'tExcept he didn't write he's in therapy? You clearly have similar hang ups that he does and are projecting hard. You need to learn boundaries, you need to learn empathy. These type of discussions are absolutely not for you to be having with people who are struggling. Because he asked for advice and I asked him what tools he had been given in therapy lmfao? You are wild. You shouldn't be giving people advice when it's clouded by your own baggage and you can't separate your own experiences from wha… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/04/24 03:28 PM |
| 4 | I'm considering leaving my friend group because it's too hard to see them succeed so much where I can'tSorry but if you think it isn't dysfunctional to only maintain certain relationships because you feel inferior to a significant portion of people around you and then spend your spare time seething over it, I don't know what to tell you. It's poor mental hygiene and can and should be addressed with therapy. You cannot deal with those things by pretending they don’t exist. Good thing I didn't write that then. he needs help finding things he can manage to regain some sense of control over and see t… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/04/24 09:05 AM |
| 4 | I'm considering leaving my friend group because it's too hard to see them succeed so much where I can'tI wrote IF, I don't know you or your situation, I'm writing based on the information you provided. By constantly harping on this idea that a person should be free of jealousy you're really not providing anything useful Nowhere did I write you should be free of jealousy. If you are unable to maintain relationships with other people due to jealousy, that is dysfunctional and needs to be managed. It seems kinda like you just want to be told you are absolutely valid for going through life avoiding a… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/04/24 08:53 AM |
| 2 | I'm considering leaving my friend group because it's too hard to see them succeed so much where I can'tWell she may have a point if you are doing nothing yourself and resenting them. Surely she also gave you tools for managing negative intrusive thoughts etc. though? | /r/ExRedPill | 15/04/24 01:47 AM |
| 9 | I'm considering leaving my friend group because it's too hard to see them succeed so much where I can'tSounds like this is a significant problem in your life that you need to address. Interacting with people from different circumstances as you is a pretty important part of being an adult. As others have suggested, sounds like you need therapy. You are seeing people in a very shallow, black and white way that is dysfunctional. | /r/ExRedPill | 14/04/24 10:36 PM |
| 7 | I'm considering leaving my friend group because it's too hard to see them succeed so much where I can'tI was growing poor and got lucky enough to win entry to a rich school and it feels like I'm there watching my peers talk about how their families are taking trips to Paris or London and how they all are getting luxury cars for their 16th birthday where my family considered a Digornos pizza a splurge. Just out of curiosity, what was your solution to this at the time? Did you make friends in school? Friends in a different wealth class to you? If so, how did you manage these feelings? | /r/ExRedPill | 14/04/24 09:52 PM |
| 2 | I keep seeing the sentiment on this subreddit that "women are taught they have inherent value, men are taught they must earn their value." This is bullshit.A lot of this is based on falsehoods but regardless...I was maintaining that woman don't have inherent worth but rather have to put in effort to have value even in the dating world. I don't think anything you said addresses that. | /r/ExRedPill | 14/04/24 03:19 AM |
| 2 | I keep seeing the sentiment on this subreddit that "women are taught they have inherent value, men are taught they must earn their value." This is bullshit.Please read what I wrote again and quote exactly where I wrote women do anything for men. How exactly does pressure to adhere to beauty standards mean women are doing stuff for men? | /r/ExRedPill | 13/04/24 05:12 PM |
| 2 | I keep seeing the sentiment on this subreddit that "women are taught they have inherent value, men are taught they must earn their value." This is bullshit.Please read what I wrote again and quote exactly where I wrote women do anything for men. ETA: while you are at it, go through my post history and link where I wrote women DON'T do anything for men. You do realize I'm not responsible for every single thing you've read lmao? | /r/ExRedPill | 13/04/24 05:10 PM |
| 2 | I keep seeing the sentiment on this subreddit that "women are taught they have inherent value, men are taught they must earn their value." This is bullshit.The discussion is whether people have inherent worth not whether people have it easier to find a relationship. Women have to put in effort and adhere to beauty standards in order to have worth even in the dating world. women figure out the cosmetic stuff by age 16-18 Do you not have to put any effort into your appearance at all? If you did, you'd realize trends change constantly and maintenance is a lot of time, effort, and money. Guys have to socially calibrate themselves and grow an extension … | /r/ExRedPill | 13/04/24 05:08 PM |
| 2 | I keep seeing the sentiment on this subreddit that "women are taught they have inherent value, men are taught they must earn their value." This is bullshit.I can see it with respect to the ability to establish initial sexual attraction I think you guys need to think a lot harder about the efforts women put in to achieve societal beauty standards. Do you have any idea what beauty products tend to cost? How much time and effort it takes to learn to style your hair and makeup, not to mention the time it takes to apply it daily? The idea that women didn't have to invest significant effort and time into these things is mind boggling to me. The initial s… | /r/ExRedPill | 13/04/24 01:18 PM |
| 3 | I keep seeing the sentiment on this subreddit that "women are taught they have inherent value, men are taught they must earn their value." This is bullshit.Only men can write this stuff because you have no idea the effort women considered to have value in the "sexual marketplace" put in just to look that way. They are absolutely not born with it. And saying "minus the makeup and accessories" is literally just subtracting the hours of effort women apply daily to meet that standard. There's no inherent worth in that and many women who don't adhere to those standards are basically invisible. | /r/ExRedPill | 13/04/24 01:14 PM |
| 6 | I keep seeing the sentiment on this subreddit that "women are taught they have inherent value, men are taught they must earn their value." This is bullshit.a) You said no medium of entertainment so which is it tough guy? b) Why the fuck would romcoms not count lmfao like bruh. What are we talking here? Superhero movies specifically? Should I wait while you search out one specific genre that is devoid of large men? Good luck with that. c) I'll name even more for you nonetheless. Steven Segal, James Gandolfini, Jonah Hill (did a number of serious roles at his previous weight), Philip Seymour Hoffman, Paul Walter Hauser (just landed lead role in a Tar… | /r/ExRedPill | 13/04/24 01:10 PM |
| 9 | I keep seeing the sentiment on this subreddit that "women are taught they have inherent value, men are taught they must earn their value." This is bullshit.makes it toxic is in this case they're telling them not to change a thing Do you not know what anorexia is lmfao???? Good god this is brain rot. They are encouraging each other to put their bodies through so much change that many of them die. But this just goes to show how you are prepared to belittle any women's issues to bolster your point. Bad faith engagement. Maybe I don't know what women go through, but in this case, it's a flatout lie. What's a flatout lie? That many mental health groups … | /r/ExRedPill | 13/04/24 04:04 AM |
| 12 | I keep seeing the sentiment on this subreddit that "women are taught they have inherent value, men are taught they must earn their value." This is bullshit.Till today, no medium of entertainment, esepcially those created by women, wants to have an unattractive fat male be the lead You must be joking | /r/ExRedPill | 13/04/24 03:55 AM |
| 2 | Feeling myself falling back into toxic thoughts after underwhelming experience with crushI imagine that if there's any chance that she might like me too, and I definitely do like her, all that might have amplified the awkwardness. I have been talking to someone for a year and we have met 4 times, it still takes a bit of time to adjust to being together in person. We aren't even there yet to being fully comfortable I would say, mostly due to a lot of visits being busy and/or short. So ya def don't sweat that and I think it's worth talking with her about because this might not cross h… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/04/24 11:09 PM |
| 4 | Feeling myself falling back into toxic thoughts after underwhelming experience with crushLet me give you the part I hope you find encouraging up top. As for things being awkward in person, I can tell you from experience that you have to build intimacy in person almost from scratch. It's not the same as chatting online, there's a lack of familiarity that is a bit confusing given that you are in fact familiar with each other. I think part of the awkwardness was an expectation that it wouldn't be awkward. If you went in thinking it was just a first date and you needed to get to know a … | /r/ExRedPill | 12/04/24 09:32 PM |
| 20 | I keep seeing the sentiment on this subreddit that "women are taught they have inherent value, men are taught they must earn their value." This is bullshit.And those women are also told by people "you're perfect and special just the way you are, you go girl!" by everyone You've literally pulled this out of your asshole. There are plenty of women who don't experience this. By contrast, even positive groups for men or even the redpill says "if you're a man who isn't literally perfect, you're not even worth the oxygen you breathe and you'd be better off curling up and dying somewhere where no one will feel bad if they see your body. And if you ARE lit… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/04/24 09:13 PM |
| 56 | I keep seeing the sentiment on this subreddit that "women are taught they have inherent value, men are taught they must earn their value." This is bullshit.And because women undesirable to them are invisible, they don't consider how those women don't have the "inherent worth" they are referring to. I think the sad reality is we live in a world where nobody has inherent worth. There are far too many people and entities that see us all as just bodies or soldiers or consumers or whatever other metric that defines us only in ways we can be exploited. | /r/ExRedPill | 12/04/24 05:28 PM |
| 15 | Why is all red pill/anti incel advice geared towards the lowest level when many incels are normal people who are just ugly?This dude has made several posts in a few subs the last few days and I notice he consistently sidesteps providing details. Probably a dozen or more comments he either ignores or gives one word answers, and then he wonders why the advice isn't tailored to him. That's like going to the tailor, wiggling around and saying "that's enough" every time they try to measure you, and then leaving complaining that the clothing isn't properly fitted. Consistent, prolonged and effective effort is a common iss… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/04/24 04:22 AM |
| 13 | Tradwives/ redpill women ruined my worldviewSo the thing with these points of view is, you have to live a very isolated life to believe this. If you actually went out and met people, it'd be near impossible to fall into the trap of thinking 4 billion people feel the same way. Depending on the location, you meet 10 people and they will all be vastly different, never mind 4 billion. So the solution is to stop isolating yourself. Go out and meet people. Put in effort to understand them. See how much variety there is in life and choose to sur… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/04/24 01:02 AM |
| 1 | Ugly = CreepyI have been asked out by a few people who I consider unattractive and my only feeling was wishing I could change how I perceived them (when they were people I could see myself being compatible with) and really wanting them to find someone and be happy. Thankfully most of them have. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/04/24 12:09 AM |
| 3 | It's incredibly frustrating to ask for advice and have people invalidate or just disregard your experience.Man one day you are going to be embarrassed that you wasted so much time arguing in defense of all of the cognitive distortions and fallacies that are holding you back. Like seriously, once you see what everyone else is seeing and pointing out to you, you are going to feel so incredibly foolish for being so stubborn about refusing to see their points. I am going to remember your handle this time so I never waste time talking to this particular wall again, but for your own sake, stop wasting your… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/04/24 12:57 AM |
| 1 | It's incredibly frustrating to ask for advice and have people invalidate or just disregard your experience.Ha! Thought he sounded familiar. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/04/24 12:53 AM |
| 4 | I still get insecure about women earning more than meIt sounds like in your previous relationship, it was much more complex than just whoever earned more determining the relationship dynamic and whether the relationship worked out. So why do you now suddenly see relationships as entirely determined by just this one aspect of each person? | /r/ExRedPill | 02/04/24 12:41 PM |
| 24 | It's incredibly frustrating to ask for advice and have people invalidate or just disregard your experience.What is frustrating is when I explain the actions I have taken to make myself more attractive and then people just say "well that works so if it's not working for you you're doing it wrong" This part in particular I find very odd. Imo and from most of the advice I see in these spaces, there is no one thing you can do to "make yourself attractive". If your goal is to meet a partner, there is a lot of advice people will give that has absolutely nothing to do with "making yourself attractive". The … | /r/ExRedPill | 02/04/24 12:26 PM |
| 28 | I still get insecure about women earning more than meNot sure where you live but according to data in the US, almost half of marriages consist of spouses earning either close to the same or the woman earning more (source,and%20home%20life%20remains%20unbalanced.)). It's pretty normal these days. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/04/24 10:51 PM |
| 2 | I have a very difficult time believing that the reason so many men struggle is because of their personality.Yeah and when you have struggled with mental illness without support for so long, sometimes you can no longer even recognize that the black and white thinking is a coping mechanism. It becomes the new reality. So hard to get out of and only the person in it can choose to climb out. I don't know the best way to reach people in this state but in my role of random internet commenter, the only thing I have ever had work is blunt and harsh reality checks. Doesn't work on everyone, but it's the type o… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/04/24 09:48 PM |
| 10 | Conversations with my female friends and women that don't frequent subs like this have led me to doubt a lot of what women here say about attractionMan I feel sorry for you that you spend all this time ruminating about things on the internet when you could just live your life and understand things 10x better. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/04/24 03:38 AM |
| 3 | I have a very difficult time believing that the reason so many men struggle is because of their personality.Your reading comprehension is too poor for actual discussion | /r/ExRedPill | 01/04/24 03:36 AM |
| 7 | Conversations with my female friends and women that don't frequent subs like this have led me to doubt a lot of what women here say about attractionYour understanding of attraction is deeply flawed. You would have to start by trying to understand attraction better before drawing any sort of conclusions at which point you'd realize there is no conclusion to be drawn. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/04/24 02:41 AM |
| 7 | I have a very difficult time believing that the reason so many men struggle is because of their personality.Believing all women will either date or not date misogynists is misogynistic. You are still arguing within the confines of AWALT which is classic misogyny. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/04/24 01:39 AM |
| 5 | I have a very difficult time believing that the reason so many men struggle is because of their personality.Obviously. I think every woman on the planet can tell you they've met people and uncovered their misogyny after knowing them for a while first. Sometimes it doesn't even have anything to do with good looks or good social skills, some people are misogynistic without making it their entire personality like incels do, so it doesn't come up at first. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/04/24 01:33 AM |
| 2 | I have a very difficult time believing that the reason so many men struggle is because of their personality.It's usually either an issue of mental illness and cognitive distortions making it difficult to understand or a lack of effort but yeah...some people are also dumb. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/04/24 01:30 AM |
| 5 | I have a very difficult time believing that the reason so many men struggle is because of their personality.It's so tiresome how often men come here and declare anything with nuance and complexity "gaslighting". Just because you aren't understanding something properly, doesn't mean you're being gaslit, it usually just means you need to ask more questions to understand better or apply for critical thought. | /r/ExRedPill | 31/03/24 10:37 PM |
| 9 | I have a very difficult time believing that the reason so many men struggle is because of their personality.Maybe apply some more thought to the fact that different things can be true in different scenarios? Like it's really not that complex. The amount of times I have replied to someone or saw someone else reply to someone saying "don't use that incel jargon, people can't understand you and it's all bullshit" and they'll be like "what jargon? I didn't say anything abnormal." It's pretty obvious those guys will let slip misogynistic and otherwise problematic ideas and language and it's so normalized F… | /r/ExRedPill | 31/03/24 10:36 PM |
| 17 | Gaslighting in this subSince you are asking this, you should really familiarize yourself with what actual facts are, because a lot of the time when these men are recounting these experiences, the horrible parts are ones they have made up or filled in. If you can't recognize when that is the case, you might be just as bad at detecting facts vs fantasy as the person saying it and therefore susceptible to radical rhetoric. The most common example is a guy will say "a woman glares at me because I'm so hideous." Can you sp… | /r/ExRedPill | 26/03/24 02:35 PM |
| 11 | I have been at least 3 years completely healed from the red pill but i got played soo hard that now i cant stop thinking that maybe they were right.She was very honest with you from day 1 man, grow up. You are at fault for your decision to continuously pursue someone who told you they aren't interested and any pain it caused you. You can try to protect yourself from responsibility all you want but the only person you will harm by insisting on doing that is yourself. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/03/24 12:48 AM |
| 23 | I have been at least 3 years completely healed from the red pill but i got played soo hard that now i cant stop thinking that maybe they were right.Saying you "got played" certainly implies you believe she is at fault for your feelings and she isn't. simple cannot change how i feel about it thats the issue You can control how you manage those feelings and do something different than turning to misogynistic rhetoric as an alternative to processing your feelings in a healthy way. YOU made shitty decisions for yourself and it caused you pain. Take responsibility for that, reflect on how you should have done differently, and move forward with a… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/03/24 12:34 AM |
| 33 | I have been at least 3 years completely healed from the red pill but i got played soo hard that now i cant stop thinking that maybe they were right.She has told you consistently that she isn't into you and yet you keep chasing her anyway and that's somehow her fault? Take some personal responsibility, man. None of this has anything to do with hypergamy or red pill. She doesn't like you that way, she told you that from the start. Move on. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/03/24 10:58 PM |
| 1 | How do I move on from this if others will never forgive me and keep reminding meBut by your own logic, should you not extend them empathy and forgiveness? | /r/ExRedPill | 19/03/24 01:19 AM |
| 2 | I insult the girl that I like when I'm nervousThen why did you write elsewhere that your crush is the first girl you've spoken to for more than 10 minutes? | /r/ExRedPill | 17/03/24 05:57 PM |
| 11 | Are women less romantic than men?Nobody is accepting a man paying first as an attempt to stick it to the patriarchy, they are accepting because a lot of things are unequal and won't get fixed overnight, so if you get a free coffee or a meal or whatever else out of it amongst alllllll the risks and negatives, it's not the hill to die on. Women have no choice but to live with many disadvantages to patriarchy but they should reject the advantages outright because? That's gunna somehow end inequality? It's not really a fair standar… | /r/ExRedPill | 11/03/24 08:10 PM |
| 17 | Are women less romantic than men?Not to mention women's clothing and a lot of things many women feel they need to put on just to reach a baseline of presentable is so expensive. A woman will put on hundreds of dollars worth of clothing and product, spend significant time putting it all together nicely, and the dude who practically rolled out of bed in the same clothing he has been wearing for 10 years can't bother to spend a few 20s on a nice night? I also find the same men who think this way think they deserve a woman who puts… | /r/ExRedPill | 11/03/24 05:59 PM |
| 3 | Are women less romantic than men?The good news in that case is that the OP and any other man can apply effort to actually figure out what they want/need in a partner and search for that instead of fixating on useless things to easily avoid this. That happens to be one of the reasons women are starting to be branded as having too high of standards, ironically. | /r/ExRedPill | 11/03/24 12:36 PM |
| 18 | Are women less romantic than men?So you haven't even bothered to check out the statistics 🤣🤣 Bro, I repeat, you should be far more worried about how shitty a partner you will be. You are demonstrating repeatedly that you don't give a single shit about women's lived experiences, what they think and feel, yet you think you think you'd make a good partner to a woman? Think again. The statistics show that women overwhelmingly do more than their fair share of unpaid domestic labour. Hours and hours per week extra over men on average… | /r/ExRedPill | 11/03/24 12:25 PM |
| 23 | Are women less romantic than men?I don't think you get what I'm saying at all actually. You are assuming your potential partner won't do nice things for you based on irrelevant statistics you brought up. After your statistics are demonstrated to be irrelevant, you decide the statistics that show women do nice things aren't good enough for you, and you can't even describe the "nice things" you actually meant. I think you should be far more worried about whether you would be a good partner than about whether Nameless Faceless Wom… | /r/ExRedPill | 11/03/24 12:15 PM |
| 32 | Are women less romantic than men?Now you are moving the goalposts to completely devalue stats that disprove your unkind assumption. Because let's be clear here, you are making an assumption about an entire gender by cherry picking statistics and then throwing them away as soon as people point out that they don't even suit your assertion anyway. You pointed out that statistics show that women aren't as romantic as men. You consistently underline your point is women don't do * gestures vaguely * "nice things" for men the way men … | /r/ExRedPill | 11/03/24 11:53 AM |
| 35 | Are women less romantic than men?Okay so I guess doing more than one's share of the labour in the household is not "nice random little things that partners do for each other"? Is that just things women have to do according to you, or do you think maybe it's a nice caring thing to do to pick up your partners' slack in maintaining the home? | /r/ExRedPill | 11/03/24 11:32 AM |
| 55 | Are women less romantic than men?You're 17 so you should learn this now: societal expectations you learn for men are not the default. You can't expect women to also observe societal expectations for men and that if they don't, it means anything at all. Women have their own set of societal expectations and it's very clear in your post that you have absolutely no idea what they are and haven't even spared a thought for that outside of your male experience. So next time, instead of expecting women to be exactly like men, remember … | /r/ExRedPill | 11/03/24 10:57 AM |
| 3 | Are most articles about women's preference for tall men just wrong/exaggerated?No idea and no idea how this would apply to height given male and female height would present differently. If anything it would probably correlate with a common height difference, but I'm not aware of any research. | /r/ExRedPill | 27/02/24 02:29 PM |
| 5 | Are most articles about women's preference for tall men just wrong/exaggerated?I don't think you can even conclude that it's the guy's height that made him successful either. Yes exactly, another good point. The researchers did not determine whether height was a factor in partner selection, it was just a recurring observable pattern. Also, isn't it extremely common for a couple to be the same (or close to the same) as each other? In what sense? Height, generally not. In a lot of other senses such as income and values yes, extremely common. | /r/ExRedPill | 27/02/24 12:25 AM |
| 6 | Are most articles about women's preference for tall men just wrong/exaggerated?Yeah the majority of the time I've seen incels share data online it was research done for another purpose and they therefore draw a conclusion that was never intended or examined by the researchers. It's inaccurate at that point because either the conclusion being drawn is not even in line with the data or there are factors not taken into account by the researchers because they were studying something entirely differently. As an example, let's refer back to a study that found most hetero relatio… | /r/ExRedPill | 26/02/24 11:53 PM |
| 5 | Are most articles about women's preference for tall men just wrong/exaggerated?Most likely. I don't have any of the studies I mentioned previously or will mention onhand unfortunately but any studies I have seen on preferences in mate selection has women consistently ranking physical appearance lower than men do and commonly rating physical appearance lower than a host of other priorities (the exact verbage of which vary widely between studies). I would say the interplay of all of the variables to dating would make it very difficult to carry out a study that would effectiv… | /r/ExRedPill | 26/02/24 11:40 PM |
| 9 | Are most articles about women's preference for tall men just wrong/exaggerated?It really depends what you mean by "article" which I think underlines the true issue: ask yourself if you are critically consuming media and whether you understand the information and data in front of you. If an "article" is just an opinion piece by a random person then yeah you need to be asking why they wrote the piece and who their target audience is. If someone earns money by "coaching" lonely men, obviously he is going to play up the need to pay for his services or consume his content, for … | /r/ExRedPill | 26/02/24 11:23 PM |
| 5 | I'm losing my Dad to the red pill and the rightI'm so sorry you had to do that and are now facing this and I totally understand how difficult it would be. Boundaries would be a good start and you might be surprised how well it works. "I'm happy to talk to you, dad, and I love you, but I have asked you before not to bring up political topics we don't agree on as it starts an argument and it's stressful for me. If you bring up politics I will be ending our call." "Dad what you are saying to me right now is really hurtful to me as a woman. Let'… | /r/ExRedPill | 26/02/24 11:02 PM |
| 7 | Here’s why it doesn’t make sense to care about a women’s number of sexual partners if you don’t care more about education when looking to avoid divorce:What does care about it mean though? Do you make assumptions about a person based solely about their past experience? Do you rule men out because you believe their body count can only reflect low moral standards? Are they used up? Do you think less of them as an equal person? Do you think your ideas around promiscuity apply ONLY to men? Kinda hard to call it misandrist if you don't. I do think in general a lot of people have some prejudicial ideas around sex that are societally influenced and no… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 01:54 PM |
| 3 | Here’s why it doesn’t make sense to care about a women’s number of sexual partners if you don’t care more about education when looking to avoid divorce:It's an interesting point because it's the same black and white thinking they apply to the idea that they are doomed because they assume all women will see male virginity as a red flag. Certain facts about a person are yellow flags that need to be assessed. I would wager that outside of these spaces, most virgins are just guys who due to whatever set of circumstances didn't have that experience yet, not raging misogynists. Similarly, most promiscuous people are not morally bankrupt hedonists. Yo… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 01:45 PM |
| 6 | Here’s why it doesn’t make sense to care about a women’s number of sexual partners if you don’t care more about education when looking to avoid divorce:Yet it probably does make divorce less likely because it removes one unhealthy aspect that could destroy the marriage. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/02/24 01:34 PM |
| 3 | Women, how have you felt about your male partner sharing their emotions, vulnerabilities, etc with you?Shy guys do the exact opposite of being vulnerable and in my experience, many shy men are terrified of and avoid being vulnerable. It takes vulnerability to put yourself out there, not hide. > Not a single commenter wrote that they pursued a man BECAUSE he was vulnerable, but that they value it in a partner. > You should read the comments again as lots of people gave great nuanced responses on how certain expressions of emotions can be unhealthy or a burden on your partner. You seem to be fallin… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/02/24 04:29 AM |
| 1 | Idk how to not be bitter that I will never be desired in the same way attractive men areIt's really simple to go and count yourself lmao. 4 of the 11 top comments are men described as not conventionally attractive. I don't think it really matters to you though because you are set in your close mindedness so I'll stop wasting my time. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/02/24 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Idk how to not be bitter that I will never be desired in the same way attractive men areAnd a good third of the comments say their partner is not conventionally attractive or they are overweight or they didn't find them particularly attractive until they got to know them. Those are not ways to describe conventionally attractive men. You can verify that yourself yet instead of taking a second look you are clinging to your bias. Good luck with that. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/02/24 08:18 PM |
| 5 | Idk how to not be bitter that I will never be desired in the same way attractive men areYou still don't get it. Don't worry though, when it happens to you, you'll think back on these naive ideas and finally understand what people say. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/02/24 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Idk how to not be bitter that I will never be desired in the same way attractive men areWay to demonstrate an impressive level of confirmation bias. If you looked at the comments again and intentionally paid attention to signs the guy is not conventionally or stereotypically attractive, many of the comments are not about conventionally attractive men. They either say or they describe traits that don't fit under conventionally attractive. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/02/24 08:05 PM |
| 8 | Idk how to not be bitter that I will never be desired in the same way attractive men areI agree, the issue is almost always men assuming women work the exact same way men do and often being incapable of believing or refusing to accept that that isn't the case. And that's the infuriating part, the not believing. Women say unequivocally that they are attracted to their partners yet the prevailing attitude is "they're lying, they have settled for their partner". | /r/ExRedPill | 19/02/24 07:45 PM |
| 30 | Idk how to not be bitter that I will never be desired in the same way attractive men areMost women (yes even the below-average ones, trust men when we say this) are sexually attractive to a lot of men Well of course, you don't need to be physically attracted to a man to be in a relationship with him How about you trust women when they say they are sexually (and physically) attracted to their partners. Your understanding of attraction - and specifically women's attraction - is deeply flawed and instead of challenging that, you are using it to fuel your bitterness. Men who actually p… | /r/ExRedPill | 19/02/24 06:39 PM |
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