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with_more_feeling/r/seduction19/06/17 04:12 AM
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Moderator is even newb. If you have conveyed intent and then she experiences losing that intent. Lemme guess: You think that lowers her interest.
/r/seduction05/07/17 12:11 AM
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Read through the chaff of pickup books or get someone skillets to teach you.
/r/seduction04/07/17 07:09 AM
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Banter is for face to face. Build attraction / value. Then plan.
/r/seduction04/07/17 05:35 AM
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You're assuming that you established a enough value to hold interest.
/r/seduction04/07/17 12:04 AM
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Was the text convo boring?
/r/seduction03/07/17 11:58 PM
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I really want to know how the Japanese lost the samurai culture.
/r/seduction03/07/17 07:41 AM
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Yup! I posted elsewhere that this is a practice everyone endures. Everyone. If you don't believe me: pm me.
/r/seduction01/07/17 09:41 PM
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Stop reinforcing the disabling beliefs. CHANGE YOUR BELIEFS. You do this by finding empowering examples. Hiroaki Aoki Steve Aoki Jackie Chan Fucking Bruce Lee If you want to believe the contrary, figure out how. Everyone endures this process. Don't believe me? Pm me and I'll share a personal experience in the context of my work.
/r/seduction01/07/17 09:11 PM
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It's giving you a very simple psychological principle. But you seem like a victim, so keep at it.
/r/seduction01/07/17 09:08 PM
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FFS STOP reinforcing the disabling belief. I don't care about your academic masturbating. CHANGE YOUR BELIEFS. You do this by finding empowering examples. Hiroaki Aoki Steve Aoki Jackie Chan Fucking Bruce Lee If you want to believe the contrary... Fucking figure out how. But your own encoded social adherence would rather accept the norm.
/r/seduction01/07/17 08:28 PM
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Curious about the "fit in = success mentality" Id say "normal will get you nowhere" but you've already made it clear that normal serves some purpose for you. Also does the normal person actually have a gym habit?
/r/seduction30/06/17 10:04 PM
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Are you Asian?
/r/seduction30/06/17 10:00 PM
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Can you convey your beliefs into a convincing emotional argument?
/r/seduction30/06/17 09:48 PM
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Are they? Idk there's a million ways to do pickup. I can only advocate for the path that's worked for me. And I would just hate myself for being so unauthentic. People want escapism. When you follow the social rules... You're giving them nothing different from anyone else. There's no color or texture or excitement. Why would normal be attractive? If it was these dudes asking "hi how are you? " "what do you do for work? " would be successful. Are they?
/r/seduction30/06/17 09:47 PM
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Also it's fine to dodge.. But then do you hold any contrarian beliefs?
/r/seduction30/06/17 09:39 PM
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But what if you don't like feminism? I hate feminism and I tell my friends and explain passionately and with emotional intelligence why feminism is stupid. I think people crave REAL interactions. They don't want boring political correctness. If they did the politicians would be the hottest commodities.
/r/seduction30/06/17 09:38 PM
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Talk about her getting DPed while you're fucking her? Telling her you'd like to see her get used by you and your friends.. Then dropping the subject and returning to normal convo?
/r/seduction30/06/17 08:32 PM
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Or are they all or nothing kinda things?
/r/seduction30/06/17 08:26 PM
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Could you dial em back a little?
/r/seduction30/06/17 08:25 PM
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Oh! Then it's just embracing your perversions. Look at Dave Chapelle. He makes his foot fetish cool. I'm into more submission / disrespect shit but that's just me. Told a girl to say " treat me like your fleshlight"... She obliged. Insta nut.
/r/seduction30/06/17 08:21 PM
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Welcome to pickup. Calibrated + congruency matter. If you're a boisterous and lively guy and use the above line... It's gonna flop. But if you're naturally more shy and the girl is OK w that.. It could go well.
/r/seduction30/06/17 08:18 PM
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" I think I might be a lesbian "
/r/seduction30/06/17 08:15 PM
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"I get super nervous" "I dole out pickup advice" Learning by Teaching is fine but know where you're falling short. For the weird males among us dominance + submission is actually a turn on.
/r/seduction30/06/17 08:14 PM
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Rule #1: Never ask a girl for dating advice.
/r/seduction30/06/17 08:09 PM
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Good. Someone else here who can look past the surface convo. +1
/r/seduction30/06/17 08:08 PM
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No. Idk who made this leading = attractive meme. WHY are you worth following? Yes you'll need to take the reigns... But leading ITSELF isn't inherently attractive. There's shit loads of guys wholl try to get dates w a place and time... But if she's not into you, that's not getting you the date. And keeping texts short? Dumb. Where else do you have unlimited time to create responses that then let her hang at the peak of interest? Text game.
/r/seduction30/06/17 08:07 PM
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You replied "yeah no hotdogs... I'm vegan"
/r/seduction30/06/17 08:02 PM
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Emotional spiking. Knowing how to hint at what she wants. Metaphor. All of these are direct ways to CREATE attraction. But then this forum is a bunch of dudes complaining about XYZ hoping someone will hand them useful advice. Instead of taking the actions which make you a desired male. Go read more pickup advice or find someone to tutor you.
/r/seduction30/06/17 08:01 PM
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You can exist and be enough for someone. Absolutely. But you need to be very honest with yourself. You aren't pursuing the girls who would instantly boyfriend you up. And I promise you there are countless women who you don't even notice. So if depression has you feeling down... You should consider that it probably has a component that's entirely within your control. If you actually just want to be loved for who you are.. Date lower. If you're being honest... And want the hotties... Well then tha…
/r/seduction30/06/17 07:51 PM
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Brilliant. Love the #34 comment. Sexual tension is best. 2step forward.. 1 step back. Feel free to flip the narrative on her: When she lolz and touches you: "where moving too fast" When she says something sexual: "sorry no sex, I'm on my period" What are your common sticking points? How do we help?
/r/seduction30/06/17 07:26 PM
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How does one begun to establish abundance? By being surrounded with options. Cold approach does that
/r/seduction30/06/17 07:25 PM
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Congruent. Or not
/r/seduction30/06/17 04:08 PM
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Again. No idea what your delivery is like. If you're cringing inside and hoping the words are magical... You're lost already
/r/seduction30/06/17 04:04 PM
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Certainly not a bad frame of mind. Be sure to serarate out clueless harmful mischief (were going out back to light the dumpster on fire) ... From mischief she actually wants to participate in: I've got a way to sneak into xyz hotel pool. Which reduces to: "am I actually offering value when including her?"
/r/seduction30/06/17 04:03 PM
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Except for Woujos advice being shit. Relatively absolute.
/r/seduction30/06/17 03:59 PM
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Woujo is shit.
/r/seduction30/06/17 03:57 PM
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Yup. Painfully. Also.. Job talk as open: awful. Awful. Job bs is useful when framed as "are you smart enough to impress me?" in that context it will fly. I'm here to tutor for fee. Not for free. You're asking me to learn where you're in game and craft a better more interesting version of yourself that is plausible. $$.
/r/seduction30/06/17 03:55 PM
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Also I just realized the username. Is this a reflection of your persona? Clever but unsettled?
/r/seduction30/06/17 03:49 PM
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Start with how you feel about the girl. What are YOUR emotions prior to approaching? Are you at the level where you can stare through a crowd and create the subcontext of "I want to fuck you"? If not then you might need canned material. Idk where you are so offering the lusted after: "3 instant fixes I can use tonight" requires I get to know your shortcomings.
/r/seduction30/06/17 03:46 PM
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Communication emotobally is the exact opposite of how men talk among themselves. Bullet lists of factoids on sports personalities are perfect examples. Go watch Russell Brand or take some lessons
/r/seduction30/06/17 03:42 PM
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I like that you're quoting the 48 laws. But maybe this is best understood in extrema: A lap dog is completely agreeable. So be less so than that. Finally the very core of what a woman wants out of a male is the beauty + the beast complex. She wants to tame a wild (and possibly affluent) male. And the username makes me think you're a girl... Are you just now learning this about yourself?
/r/seduction30/06/17 03:32 PM
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You're caught up in the script. The dialogue. What you're saying is only part of the communication.
/r/seduction30/06/17 03:28 PM
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There's a hellish small chance of getting away w that... But I'm guessing its more perceived as clueless or as novelty...if it's received positively at all. Girls are literally brutalized by this kind of 0-200mph conversation by 99% of males. Women aren't turned on by straight-forwardness like men are.
/r/seduction30/06/17 03:26 PM
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Stop having "normal" conversations as openers. Normal conversion is fine for LATER. BUT not until she's actually turned on.
/r/seduction30/06/17 03:21 PM
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Novelty. Universally attractive.
/r/seduction30/06/17 05:24 AM
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Know what's easier than meeting girls in college? Being able to cold approach any girl.
/r/seduction30/06/17 03:56 AM
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Learn to communicate emotionally.
/r/seduction30/06/17 03:53 AM
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Also do you know how to communicate emotionally or does your convo read like basket ball statistics? I could invest all the time in the world teaching men how to actually BE ENGAGING to women... But I get no kicks from keyboard jockeying. Shot you a pm if youd prefer learning this shit efficiently.
/r/seduction30/06/17 03:38 AM
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Gimme a demo of perverse humor. Do you crack one... Then de-escalate?
/r/seduction30/06/17 01:32 AM
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You find pickup artists who know how to do it and you get them to teach you. Or read lots of books and separate the chaff of months of reading.
/r/seduction30/06/17 01:31 AM
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Stop listening to bullshit race advice. Stop being boring. Learn to actually create attraction. How Agreeable are you? Probably super Agreeable. Stop that. And what the other dude said: ignore all dating advice that comes from any girl.
/r/seduction29/06/17 06:37 PM
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I'm down to give a free half hour Skype lesson =]
/r/seduction29/06/17 01:05 AM
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I can't really answer your question because I dont know if you get what I mean by "get away with it". Do you mean: "can I finger my asshole in public and ask someone to sniff it"? As a general rule: social prowess is" being a leader"... Other people respect you and or you're aware enough to mold how peoples behavior in social settings. All things held equal... The males who can bend social situations to their whim... Well you tell me : would that be a helpful trait? Is that a behavior of an infl…
/r/seduction28/06/17 02:30 AM
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Look up bar crawls on Facebook or meetup. Better yet show that you've got social skills and just befriend randos at bars. This is HUGE social proof for her. And it's doubly easy bc you've already got a girl with you... You're JUST there to have fun. Now: do you actually know how to lead social interactions and HELP people have fun.
/r/seduction28/06/17 01:10 AM
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If you can break rules and get away with it you're showing high value. For women social conversations might as well be physics. Getting away with conventionally "bad" things are hugely compelling for her. You're basically turning gravity on and off at will... And that's astounding to her because she's so bound by social conventions.
/r/seduction27/06/17 09:21 PM
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Start opening girls of lower value and see how you behave.
/r/seduction26/06/17 07:33 PM
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That feeling when you're the single arbiter of what it means to be a "good person"
/r/seduction26/06/17 05:00 PM
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Somewhere guys got the idea that girls will lead... Where exactly did that come from? Shes a girl before she's a bartender no?
/r/seduction26/06/17 04:58 PM
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It matters why you're high energy. If it's supplicating yes that's bad. It sounds like like you're a people pleaser? If so stop. Learn to disagree with girls.
/r/seduction26/06/17 04:56 PM
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You're not trying. You're avoiding the hard parts. Reading isn't pickup.
/r/seduction26/06/17 04:53 PM
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Why don't you just play WOW instead?
/r/seduction26/06/17 02:37 AM
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No. Negging is supposed to be this subtle psychological thing. Teasing is a very direct statement... Negs aren't
/r/seduction26/06/17 02:36 AM
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Agreed. If you're wondering if too far it probably is.
/r/seduction26/06/17 02:35 AM
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I'd give feedback if you posted a highlight reel of best material to reddit.
/r/seduction26/06/17 12:46 AM
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Asking for permission kills attraction. You professing your interest.. Is asking for permission. You're robbing her of the experience of being lusted for. You're adding bureaucracy + paperwork to matters of emotion.
/r/seduction26/06/17 12:44 AM
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Don't invest more.
/r/seduction26/06/17 12:42 AM
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Go for the 3some. Or suggest you all get naked. You need to position +validate yourself as being higher value than both. The 3 way is a really solid way to do this. If nothing else mentioning it, holding frame (not weird or negative, just fun and fun vibes) and accepting whatever reaction. At very least go sexual towards both. Escalate and convey interest in both while you 3 are around. Girls will avoid conflict and that gives you opportunity to hold frame. But you're going to fuck it up unless …
/r/seduction26/06/17 12:38 AM
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No. Stop giving advice. Insecurity line isn't bad but be aware that blowing sunshine up her ass is serious friend territory.
/r/seduction26/06/17 12:32 AM
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"I'm waiting until something better comes along"
/r/seduction26/06/17 12:32 AM
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" Yeah, Idk why I'm hanging out with you. "
/r/seduction26/06/17 12:31 AM
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For sure! I've experienced huge emotional engagement.. And that feeling had percolated into my thoughts and I end up with dreams merging into it. Crazy semi awakend states with just really weird scenarios running through my head. Take it as good indication you're pushing your limits.
/r/seduction26/06/17 12:25 AM
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If she wants you more than you want her. Sure. Mind your value.. And know how to make her climax.
/r/seduction26/06/17 12:21 AM
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Be of higher value. 100% of it is her asking herself: "Do I think I have a chance of taming third wild beast by throwing every asset I have at him? " There's not much a male can equate to how women perceive males. It's like catching some rare breed of machine that through some miracle the world just flourishes and opens up for.... Through some mechanism she is utterly clueless about. The male the girl wants to throw pussy at to keep around is an anomaly. She's spending everything because he's a …
/r/seduction24/06/17 09:42 PM
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1) figure out what you value 2) when she does the thing, tell her it hot If you like the way she makes eye contact: "That right there, that eye contact. " (pause) "For a half second there I wanted to fuck you" .. Change topic or just look at her.. Either works. Two steps forward, one back.
/r/seduction24/06/17 02:40 AM
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This reddit needs a ranking system. There's so much nubbery trying to sell wares here.
/r/seduction24/06/17 02:35 AM
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Models is a disgused argument for ego. It's not advanced material, it teaches that you should embrace "who you are" without considering at some level that could be egoic + defensive.
/r/seduction24/06/17 12:49 AM
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The more of a deal you make of it, the more it indicates a sore spot. (you've failed before) Non-reactive is always a safe bet. You can go in, be pushed back.. And then simply go back to doing whatever you were doing prior. Too often guys translate non reciprocation as a hard no... When it's quite possible she just means "not yet"
/r/seduction24/06/17 12:43 AM
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This. Avoid the feelgood pitfall of so much advise on here. Feeling good about everything is not a good thing. Expansion and discomfort go hand in hand.
/r/seduction24/06/17 12:35 AM
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See look at this. Talks shit about keyboard warriors... Fades like a lil flower when given the chance to put his face and real identity out there.
/r/seduction22/06/17 11:11 PM
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How about you jump on a video chat and we'll record and post to YouTube? Id expect we can gauge our respective success with women rather quickly.
/r/seduction22/06/17 10:54 PM
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So you are the perfect ideal of yourself?
/r/seduction22/06/17 10:52 PM
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Everyone does. Saying you don't would assume you're in total control of your mind... Or delusional.
/r/seduction22/06/17 10:26 PM
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You're feeling stuck because either: 1) lacking effort pushing your skills forward or 2) lacking feedback on the effort youre giving What do you think?
/r/seduction22/06/17 09:00 PM
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Lol yes. Feminine. A male who uses the word "creepy" "Beta" is insufficient. Seppuku. Please. After you kill your hookers.
/r/seduction22/06/17 08:30 PM
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I want you on a video chat on pickup to shame the fuck out of you
/r/seduction22/06/17 08:28 PM
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You behave like a female. You give guys pickup advice?! For money. Unbelievable.
/r/seduction22/06/17 08:27 PM
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Looooooooooooooooooooooool
/r/seduction22/06/17 08:15 PM
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" Most of you guys are emotional as fuck " Sez this dude.
/r/seduction22/06/17 08:14 PM
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Christ. Shit advice.
/r/seduction22/06/17 08:13 PM
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You don't address WHY she would want to follow your leadership. Anyone can tell a girl to do something... " Leadership " isn't inherently attractive. What is the thing that motivates her?
/r/seduction22/06/17 08:12 PM
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First sentence is diarrhea retarded aids in the context of pickup.
/r/seduction22/06/17 08:04 PM
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Let's jump on a video chat and see who knows tf they're doing. Or keep shitposting
/r/seduction22/06/17 08:02 PM
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When you are emotionally wired to think a certain way (and you are being emotional) no amount of logic can change how you feel. Coping mechanisms serve a purpose. Figure out why that coping mechanism was protective, alleviate the stimulus and the mechanism dissolves
/r/seduction21/06/17 10:48 PM
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WAIT you said yes! Perfect. I'll shoot you an invite.
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:52 PM
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So that's a no? And its for all our friends in pickup land?!
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:50 PM
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Yup
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:49 PM
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Says the man advocating " do the normal thing! "
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:49 PM
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It is however " common sense" to act commonly. And total, statistically normal males, are the MOST attractive. In fact isn't Katy Perry dating a balding Middle aged man. Or wait. Was her last real love Russell Brand?
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:46 PM
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Ummmmmm nope. Bad statistical presuppositions if you wanna get hard core + nerdy Good try.
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:44 PM
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How about we live stream a chat and post it on YouTube? Would love to find out how horribly lost I am.
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:41 PM
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I agree that she doesn't want 99%of males approaching her. Good thing they all don't.
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:33 PM
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Fear + compliance. Sorry, you're not meant to breed girls that fit.
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:30 PM
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Listen, if approaches in the gym freak you out and this is what you need to tell yourself. Can't stop you =] More hot fit girls for the guys w balls. But then that's exactly how nature works.
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:27 PM
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As stated like 12x on this thread.. That's how I met the girl sleeping 2 feet from me Idk what else to say. People are fearful of screwing up and then having that on some imagined permanent social record?
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:24 PM
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Do it. Approach at the gym. Take all of the down votes as indication you'll do what others wont. "I want what all men want. i just want it more."
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:16 PM
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I think she'd take him stopping over to chat with her as a compliment... But I'm a cretin.
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:11 PM
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Not a chance right? If Jeff seid walks into a gym. No girl is going to want him paying attention to her. I mean that's what you're saying right? A girl who values fitness by working out and staying healthy.. Would be appalled by a body builder looking her over.
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:04 PM
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Is there any chance you're rationalizing your fear of breaking social conventions?
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:01 PM
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I seem to have missed the " GIRLS ONLY workout equipment section " sign.
/r/seduction21/06/17 03:00 PM
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Focus on making the approach, adding value and ensuring that regardless of outcome... You don't react in a spiteful way. After you've begun to get some stuff to talk about.. Learn to "sit" with the nervousness. Feeling the way your body reacts when you're shaking-in-your-boots nervous and then doing the approach and interaction anyways.
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:58 PM
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Super butthurt. So butthurt i helped Woujo save face.
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:53 PM
1

Which is why Winston Churchill was so fond of them.
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:52 PM
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Fear of breaking social conventions in a environment where hell be seen in again.
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:48 PM
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And no they don't need to show strong interest. What about a gym automatically gives girls the confidence to outwardly express interest moreso than normally? Not shit. Bad pickup advice.
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:47 PM
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"is douchebag bc he doesn't follow the same social conventions I do"
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:45 PM
2

Balls Everyone wants the same thing .. I'm at a loss for the 3rd thing
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:38 PM
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Cold approach day game: hardmode No booze or terribly lit bars to hide behind. Also helps develop mad balls. Always saw the hottest girls just out and about... Single reason why I started pickup.
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:32 PM
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So it's possible. Lol. OK got my answer
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:25 PM
2

Curious: is it possible that being able to behave outside social norms.. Is attractive to girls?
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:22 PM
0

I mean the girl I cold approached at the gym is asleep 2 feet from me.
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:19 PM
2

Thanks!
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:17 PM
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Ah. Well then I'm am everything you say I am. Because I do not wait for.. What did you call it.. "accepting advances" As a reason to talk to a girl.
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:16 PM
5

The caveman and the fuck part imply anger. You see attractive people at the gym. Why is it so hard to fathom that girls, too, see attractive people there?
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:10 PM
4

Why would she advertise that she's accepting numbers? Do you think she wants to talk to every dude in the gym? Also why so mad?
/r/seduction21/06/17 01:57 PM
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;)
/r/seduction21/06/17 01:38 PM
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Kinda sounds like you're treating the gym as if it's a highschool class. If nobody talks to anyone else... Who are the groups passing around this label?
/r/seduction21/06/17 01:37 PM
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FR: "Tried once, failed." "Learn from my experience: give up" "totally not worth the zero effort and her politely declining "
/r/seduction21/06/17 01:20 PM
7

This is a meme used by women which actually means: I'm not getting dressed up for 98% of men. But Damn if I see the 2% I actually want... I'm going to make sure I'm touching up my eye liner. The "I dress up for me" is defense for the 98% of boring ass dudes.
/r/seduction21/06/17 01:14 PM
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You say rude. I say it's only rude if you're not bringing value. Kinda sounds like you've already talked yourself into believing that "game" of any kind is value negative. I cant Imagine that mentality is productive.
/r/seduction21/06/17 01:10 PM
3

Small minds. Because a great mind, is a socially adherent mind.
/r/seduction21/06/17 01:05 PM
1

Meet dudes in pickup. It's been my experience that the guys pushing themselves like this are often the ones who are most interested in living fulfilling lives.
/r/seduction21/06/17 09:05 AM
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^ gets it
/r/seduction21/06/17 08:59 AM
6

Ok so starting simple: Eye contact. Do you guys feel safe making eye contact? Yes /no.. OK then what about making obvious eye contact? ... Say giving an obvious look while walking past the rows of treadmills? Yes /no.. OK then what about giving her a look... Making eye contact for a moment, looking away as you walk past.. Then turning your head over your shoulder to try and reconnect with eye contact and an obvious smile? Yes /no... Dare we get bold?!? She's finished working out. Ask her if she'…
/r/seduction21/06/17 08:32 AM
4

I'm still just.. Surprised.. That 9/10 responses in here are like "woah! Too far!" I'll think what I wan say aboot it.
/r/seduction21/06/17 07:32 AM
18

When was the last time you got decked out to play Xbox all day?
/r/seduction21/06/17 07:31 AM
1

Lol. Lol. How long you been in game?
/r/seduction21/06/17 07:29 AM
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Girls definitely have those crazy hot coordinated gym outfits because they don't want to be noticed. They've got LACEY see through bits.. Because she doesn't wany to be noticed. They're in outfits which attempt to flatter every inch of her body... But definitely don't pay attention. AVERT YOUR EYES BECAUSE SHE'S ONLY THERE TO WORKOUT!
/r/seduction21/06/17 07:12 AM
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Loooooooooooooooooooooooooool I picked up my current girl at a gym. Listen. If you're not a bone head there's plenty of ways to tastefully move the interaction forward. I'll wait to be down voted to hell and THEN I'll come back and explain. But while you guys are dancing around and being good lil adherents... I'm taking the girls. Cuz balls.
/r/seduction21/06/17 07:03 AM
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When shit tested.. don't emote Hold awkward silence, stare dead at her, then change subject.
/r/seduction20/06/17 07:31 PM
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I'd agree with this. At some point it becomes empowering though. Realize that you're breaking HUGE social conventions... That takes balls. But yeah when you're familiar with it the nervousness brings presence + focus.
/r/seduction20/06/17 07:15 PM
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Yup it's enough to get you thinking.
/r/seduction20/06/17 07:10 PM
2

Shoot me a pm, we'll talk about Skype and costs and maybe I'll give you a bit more of my material.
/r/seduction20/06/17 07:06 PM
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Which you'll need a repitiore of responses for. It does 2 things: Conveys you're comfortable with it. And gives her something to say when her friends comment that you're short ... Girls like offloading considerations like this to their men.
/r/seduction20/06/17 07:04 PM
2

Well you're using this when she comments about your height.
/r/seduction20/06/17 07:01 PM
1

So then it's not congruent. Don't say it if it's not congruent. Alternatively.. You CAN say it... And then if you deadpan it... You can see if she calls you out on it And then instantly the convo goes sexual... With the subcontext that she's trying to see your dick. This is why I'm boss =] Think you can pull it off?
/r/seduction20/06/17 06:57 PM
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Not quite lol. In this context.. Can you say that phrase Without feeling awkward.. Or looking for her reaction to " check " if she accepts your statement as plausible.
/r/seduction20/06/17 06:53 PM
1

Lol. You should know what "congruent" is if you're here. Go look it up.
/r/seduction20/06/17 06:46 PM
1

And you can do this congruently?
/r/seduction20/06/17 06:44 PM
1

Haha. I'm really solid at approaches. I'll walk up to them, get in their personal space so they react... And then I say: "hi, I'm here to hit on you" Tbh I'm here to find students to tutor =]
/r/seduction20/06/17 06:43 PM
1

So you need to learn how to banter. And you need to learn to be confident in driving conversation into topics that interest you. And then able to transition between the two. Other fun bits: knowing how to expose secrets or shortcomings of yourself. You're saying that you're an ineffective communicator... That's a skill which is learn able.
/r/seduction20/06/17 06:41 PM
1

Welcome to women. Their value is instantly appraisable. I avoid negging. Instead I aim for eliciting heavy emotions. You've got to be able to handle her acting out if you're doing it my way. Emotional spikes. How would you spike her emotions? And then you need things OTHER than physicality.. That you like in a girl. For me: her ability to be weird, vocabulary, and I want her to have her shit together in life.
/r/seduction20/06/17 06:37 PM
1

The lip gaze isn't a bad test to use. While you're in her face - zone (lol) Give a stare down at her lips... Then back to her eyes... Rinse and repeat till she smiles (gets the idea) Then go ram your tongue down her throat (not really)
/r/seduction20/06/17 05:14 AM
7

Looking at a face might be useful for makeouts. At least that's what I read on the Internet...
/r/seduction20/06/17 05:10 AM
1

You have the thought. The thought begins to influence the frame. If you were ballsier I'd say try : "fat kid, fat dick" you could totally get away with it if you had the right attitude.
/r/seduction20/06/17 03:52 AM
1

Illogical is perfectly acceptable. Encouraged even. Here's a challenge: try going out and making all your thoughts completely ILLOGICAL. This was a frame I used to be more playful. Post work... When I'm out decompressing... I am actively trying to respond to people in an illogical manner. Why? Because it's so fucking novel.
/r/seduction20/06/17 03:50 AM
1

Again: you're slowly building up a more beneficial frame. But you're a male. You need to approach.
/r/seduction20/06/17 03:48 AM
1

Yes. Lol. As I tried to convey: Spreadsheets are logical. 99% of dudes are logical. Try laying a girl by giving her all the logical reasons she should let you put it in her. You'll fail phenomenally. I promise.
/r/seduction20/06/17 03:37 AM
2

Are you approaching consistently? Do you have techniques you're using to build attraction? What does an approach look like for you? How long do you push the interaction? Do you get butthurt when she says you're short.. Or do you have something clever in reply? (shit you could even say something dumb like "the dick makes up for it") What efforts are you putting in... To give you examples CONTRARY to the shit beliefs you currently have in your head?
/r/seduction20/06/17 03:34 AM
1

More or less depending on how overweight. But posture can be fixed instantly
/r/seduction20/06/17 03:31 AM
1

Sure but if I follow.. You're trying to fallacy my statements. And instead I'm telling you fallsciousness works just fine in matters of the heart
/r/seduction20/06/17 03:25 AM
1

You took a stab... But didn't put enough oomph behind it. Left her feeling like it was a half ( or less) hearted attempt. Basically you tried... And she's wanting to be impressed more. If she's hot you're gonna need to hit the emotions much, much harder.
/r/seduction20/06/17 03:23 AM
1

Up voting. That's at least an improvement.
/r/seduction20/06/17 03:20 AM
1

I disagree here.. As you're one up having done the deed. Take initiative, as a male should, and lead. If what you want to lead with is "let's let this thing fall out" then just ignore her. Or take it confidently with non neediness and non-judgment. Shit you could even say: Id make that mistake twice.
/r/seduction20/06/17 03:19 AM
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Double points for the accompanying emotes of actually asking. This is used enough as a greeting... But to actually ask w intent... It'll work wonders.
/r/seduction20/06/17 03:15 AM
1

You should always attempt to logic your way between a girls legs. Bring out the spreadsheets too. They LOVE that shit.
/r/seduction20/06/17 03:07 AM
2

I'm just going through and up voting how many times you're giving up lol
/r/seduction20/06/17 01:40 AM
3

Yeah dude you've got an installed mindset that you're gonna flop. You're not here fur advice on how to improve. You want permission to give up + feel sad for yourself.
/r/seduction20/06/17 01:39 AM
1

You're making excuses. He probs also bangs 50x the women. So you tell me: are you willing to try for at least two girls?
/r/seduction20/06/17 01:37 AM
1

Haha yeah you certainly do. Sure height is an issue... But look at dudes like Kevin hart. Make her want to tame you. Hit those deep seated needs of finding a wild male who's barely within her grasp.. And let her attempt to wrestle you into being a good boy. Give her what she wants (not what she SAYS she wants)
/r/seduction20/06/17 01:36 AM
1

It just means that I can't help you. Maybe somewhere out there there exists a form of game that you can friendship your way into her panties... But I've certainly never seen such a thing.
/r/seduction19/06/17 11:18 PM
1

So shoot me a pm if you can manage actual self-growth.
/r/seduction19/06/17 10:56 PM
1

Not exactly. And the mutual friendship makes it easier. You just have to agree to play by my guidance. Else you will fuck it up. Finally you need to be honest if you "need to be loved for who I am". If that's the case this is pretty hopeless.
/r/seduction19/06/17 10:55 PM
1

Messy, shit family life. Was a total tool of society ( lived WAY beyond her means) Not worth gaming / competing. The sex was great the first 3 times... But the cost benefit analysis didn't stand up for me. What I want is a good girl who underestimates what she can get lol
/r/seduction19/06/17 10:53 PM
1

Heres the thing: I can give you the clever shit to say.. And the text message to turn on the animal behaviors But you're not me. And you'll get your hopes up thinking "damn in gonna skate" But as soon as I'm not piloting your reactions she'll see it's bullshit. I CAN help you instantly better your situation w her. But as stated... You're still supplicating. And until you're legitimately evolved past that behavior. You're going to be showing unstable behavior... And that will instantly shut her e…
/r/seduction19/06/17 10:50 PM
1

Oh and yes, I've fucked and had strippers chasing me. Killer bodies and great sex but have some serious downfalls
/r/seduction19/06/17 10:46 PM
1

Regardless. The source emotion of bitterness, was acted on. Learn to alleviate that.
/r/seduction19/06/17 10:44 PM
1

Don't assume this cant be done simultaneously
/r/seduction19/06/17 10:44 PM
1

To test this: Would a guy with 5 girls of her caliber get pissed and block her? Nope.
/r/seduction19/06/17 10:34 PM
1

Blocking her is supplicating. Its conveying: "I cant handle having you in my life without owning you"
/r/seduction19/06/17 10:33 PM
1

As far as advice, yes I can help you become a male that's her equal (ideally better than her) but you've got to do the work. Also this isn't a quick fix, and yes, I'm going to charge you.
/r/seduction19/06/17 10:30 PM
1

You're too afraid to lose her. That makes you supplicating. That means you're beneath her.
/r/seduction19/06/17 10:27 PM
1

Here's why I say this : I've coached dudes into BEAUTIFUL positions with girls... But as soon as they stop using my advice and start doing their default behaviors.. It shows they're faking it. I cant change you. You've got to have the balls to do it yourself.
/r/seduction19/06/17 10:18 PM
1

Why do you want to go back to being a supplicating male? You're in a better spot now. Don't you want her? If you LEGITIMATELY want this girl you've got to be willing to lose her.
/r/seduction19/06/17 10:16 PM
1

That's a good spot to be in dude. Shes basically presenting. She's reaching out to you at her most honest / transparent. Also if you ask to return things to "like it was before" you've already fucked up.
/r/seduction19/06/17 10:11 PM
2

This is a well trodden behavior in all of pickup. Be cool /social, escalate with REAL intent but don't get whiny /needy about instant reciprocity. Now.. How do you tailor that to a personal style?
/r/seduction19/06/17 10:09 PM
1

Yeah. Don't do that lol. Eeesh. You're reacting bitterly because of neediness. Shes giving you opportunities to unfuck your situation and you're like: "Man up?... Nah thanks. bitterness and self pitty feel better than your insides "
/r/seduction19/06/17 09:44 PM
1

Yeah you're responding like a male. You're interviewing her. That's the opposite of what will turn her on.
/r/seduction19/06/17 09:31 PM
1

It's like a condom, but bigger.
/r/seduction19/06/17 09:24 PM
1

Lol but HOW did you.. Emotionally... Respond? Was it like a Charlie Brown defeatist reaction? Also if she's telling you she's got infection that could be a bad thing. As in she doesn't care if you think she's clean.
/r/seduction19/06/17 09:24 PM
1

" I got trash bags"
/r/seduction19/06/17 09:22 PM
1

Sounds like you failed to escalate or escalated, failed initial intents and then gave up.
/r/seduction19/06/17 09:12 PM
1

Refused to go out but would fuck... High quality problem. Take it to dm if you want to explain.
/r/seduction19/06/17 09:10 PM
1

Find what makes you nervous and just expose, expose, expose. Google "exposure therapy". Basically acclimate yourself to being nervous and it will gradually become less and less intense. Additionally: the more AWARE you are during exposure and the more you feel but maintain composure.. The faster you'll acclimate.
/r/seduction19/06/17 09:05 PM
1

Better than bored = entertaining (that's good) Why do you say "joking around"? Why aren't you serious about it instead? Does it make sense that being serious about sexing her has more emotional kick than " let's sex lol jk " You're a male. Act with intent.
/r/seduction19/06/17 08:53 PM
1

When they show hesitation: "I'm too much for my mom... I think I need a mommy" Convey in deadpan or light playfulness
/r/seduction19/06/17 07:59 PM
1

Spike her emotional state. You're better than being bored. That's a start.
/r/seduction19/06/17 07:56 PM
4

All girls are down to scissor.
/r/seduction19/06/17 07:53 PM
1

Ditto. The convo is boiler plate. "I know this is random" "what ethnicity" "where from" They work to get you going... But you'll need to expand into emotional dialogue before you get stellar results. Check my post history for info.
/r/seduction19/06/17 07:52 PM
1

Learn how to convey intent without neediness. Convey sexual intent.. But don't pansy out and switch to supplication when she doesn't immediately reciprocate.
/r/seduction19/06/17 07:48 PM
7

So, you still acted like a friend.
/r/seduction19/06/17 07:46 PM
1

Don't continually talk sex. It sets expectations for her " putting out " too high. Be in control of the ebb and flow of the sexual vibe.
/r/seduction19/06/17 07:38 PM
1

Exposure therapy. Don't run from the stimulus. Stand with it, FEEL the nervousness. But do what you want regardless.
/r/seduction19/06/17 07:34 PM
1

Don't aim to keep them interested ( supplication is assumed here) BE interesting. The question then is: how do you do that authenticly?
/r/seduction19/06/17 07:33 PM
1

I see issues in pickup. Issues in which ive had to lose, rediscover, lose, plow through grey, re-rediscover only to then realize that the active PRACTICE will keep it integrated. I can offer something and the client gets to decide if it's fair value. Does that make you mad?
/r/seduction19/06/17 07:31 PM
3

Ha. Tough.
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:29 AM
1

Ah so the 10s are the ones who don't respond like the 7s. Yeap. They don't poop. Duh.
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:26 AM
1

Can you deadpan ask a girl: "Do you poop? "
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:17 AM
1

I'm skeptical. Where exactly are you going, that as any male, you're being approached? Maybe in college parties where you already know people? Then what are your goals?
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:15 AM
1

Do you get nervous when approaching? How long do you stay on her during that approach? Do you know how to elicit emotional reactions from a girl? Do you legitimately know WHAT creates attraction? Are you funny? Do you know what things.. Other than huge tits and a pretty face... Turn you on? Do you have a "rotation"? Where do you go to find the 7s you're currently getting?
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:05 AM
1

There's a few takes on this: Are you motivated enough by say 7s to grow +try? Are you willing or able to at least TRY to approach what you really want?
/r/seduction19/06/17 04:41 AM
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