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I didn't invest more than he did. He called everyday. Facetimed every day we didn't see each other. He made plans non-stop. I only made plans for bigger things. He was making 80% of the plans for us, all by his own accord. I wouldn't expect monogamy before girlfriend status, but I WOULD expect that from this guy who told me I should only have eyes for him if I wanted to build toward a relationship. Why should I have to be subjected to that rule if he isn't? That makes no sense. I stick to my sta…
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/17 07:11 PM
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Loyal, full time employment, common interests. That's about it.
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/17 09:27 AM
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Links to studies? Made up.
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/17 09:26 AM
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Yep! I used to be pro dating apps and my logic was "Not EVERYONE is looking for a hookup and needs to fall into the stereotyping trap! Its just an app!" WRONG! I used dating sites/apps for 8 years (apps haven't been around 8y but started using them when they came out), and I STILL haven't had any luck. I've found that men you meet on apps won't trust you even if they DO like you, because in the back of their minds they think you WILL hook up with randoms even if you don't hook up with them for a…
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/17 09:19 AM
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I don't think its anything she's doing either. I think she's either borderline unattractive or extremely attractive, because at the 2 ends of the spectrum dating is hell due to so much manipulation/being led on/lying by men.
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/17 09:15 AM
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1.) You met on a site meant for sex (which is basically most online dating apps honestly), so he will see you through that lens even if you make it clear you are a LTR-minded person. There's nothing you can do about this aside from meeting men not on dating apps. He will think you're a bit secretly "loose" even if you come off conservative in real life. Where and how you meet MATTERS A LOT. Its sets the tone. I wish it weren't true, but it is. 2.) If you're unattractive, plain, or extremely attr…
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/17 09:10 AM
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If your degree is a stable career you really are interested in, or a field of study you're borderline obsessed with, and the debt isn't insane, then yes finish it. Don't you owe it to yourself?
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/17 09:07 AM
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Yeah I've gotten so much hate on here because I still adopt some liberal philosophies. While RPW is based on biology (which can't be argued), culture plays a huge part in society as well so that's why I believe in things like having a career and your own independent interests/hobbies. A mix of both worlds seems most realistic to me. Everyone wants to think in black and white when the world is 99% grey.
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/17 07:05 AM
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Yeah you're a modern RPW like me. We are about as red pill as it gets in a blue state or big city because life is just too modern for us and most men will see a pretty woman without a job as a golddigger or massive red flag. So I don't see anything wrong with your stance (also mine), even though a lot of people may claim you're not a RPW (happened to me on here). I LOVE being as feminine as humanly possible and super domestic. I love being girly and sweet. But I also am passionate about my caree…
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/17 07:02 AM
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Yep and a monogamous FWB is what most men under 40 seem to try to get these days. So definitely cut it off.
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/17 06:55 AM
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When in doubt, always cut losses. Also divorced at 31 tells me he probably won't want marriage again for like another decade. Also, be very leery of liking a man because of how well you perceive your connection to be. He might be a sociopath, narcissist, liar, or manipulator and that may be why you feel that way. Been there done that.
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/17 06:55 AM
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I'm not going to post private details about myself online, but am willing to PM about it. Since I have received zero PMs from this person about it, they aren't serious about talking or helping lol. I stick to my boundaries, and had to mention twice that is a boundary of mine. This isn't my thread either btw. I am still getting replies on my thread(s). Also, this person doesn't know what they are talking about when it comes to my job (contradicted themselves several times) and was pointing that o…
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/17 05:27 AM
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No. He didn't have a girlfriend, he was single, but he was definitely also dating that girl the whole time he was dating me, despite him telling me he was only dating me. He saw me more than he saw her, by far, just because we spent weekends together and a night or two during the week. She is his girlfriend now, as of 3 months after I stopped contacting him. His story was that he had been single for 5 months and got out of a 3 year relationship, which was true. I only know these things now becau…
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/17 05:23 AM
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"The moment I decide to take it seriously" as in the moment I ask for exclusivity, usually around 3 months into dating. I'm still not putting more effort than they are. They are, by far, much more invested. Him messaging the other girl is an issue (since you didn't read what I wrote obviously) because he went on & on about how, if I was serious about him then I would only have eyes for him. When he couldn't do the same for me. He also had told me he was only dating me. He also told me he didn't …
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/17 01:36 AM
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Lol no, I unfortunately haven't really had guys ask for exclusivity. The only guys who did were one that had a problem with his voice and had hostile anger, and another who was too scared to kiss me despite dating for 2 months already. It was really weird. So, no, I didn't lie to those guys about wanting exclusivity because I do. But I told them each that hostile anger was a dealbreaker because it made me uncomfortable, and then for guy #2 that if he couldn't even kiss me 2 months in that I coul…
/r/RedPillWomen22/05/17 11:49 PM
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In big cities, competition is fierce.
/r/RedPillWomen22/05/17 09:04 PM
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I mean I already know guys will say whatever they think you want to hear, in the most convincing tone possible, at the best possible time, always, in order to get what they want. But that doesn't stop me (or anyone else honestly) from not being able to tell when a guy is being sincere versus when he is just telling you what you want to hear. Guys don't really give me excuses, or I'd lose interest. These guys just pretend they really want a relationship, and act like it by putting in the time and…
/r/RedPillWomen22/05/17 09:04 PM
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Okay the thing is, they act fully committed to me. And I don't sleep with all of them. That also wouldn't stop a guy from acting like and saying I'm his girlfriend and then "dumping" the girl after they hook up, which is common in big cities.
/r/RedPillWomen22/05/17 06:35 AM
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If you live in a big city or liberal area, its common. If you're on the west coast, its common. Everywhere else, probably not. Rural areas and suburbs, probably not. But unfortunately I find those areas to be really boring and unfulfilling opportunity-wise so I've chosen to accept the cons with the pros where I am. And honestly, YES men are willing to overlook a hot pleasant young woman because she doesn't earn as much as he does, when it comes to the places I listed (big cities, liberal areas, …
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 09:54 PM
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Ummm YES it is LOL. You literally brought it up specifically and said yourself it was lololol.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 09:44 PM
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Just curious are you in LA or NY? Yes I am lol. Yes I know if I left, I wouldn't have these issues as much. I could probably rope an 8 in like Dallas or Atlanta honestly lol. If a guy doesn't have time to spin plates but makes good money, he tends to opt for escorts. I know this because I used to model and a lot of the models do that type of work for extra money. Its just a really big black hole or problems lol
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 09:23 PM
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That's why you have to use your brain when picking a career. There are lots of feminine careers that pay 6 figures if you're good or motivated. This is Los Angeles. I could be a makeup artist or set decorator or even an interior designer and rope that amount if I wanted.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 09:21 PM
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I'd say any man who's in his prime and looking to date, is by default beta, or at least, not alpha. That's why I'm saying and people don't get it. The only alpha you'll get is if you marry your high school sweetheart in a rural area lol. I don't even like alphas, but betas spin plates too. You have to date a 6 beta if you're a 9woman, and the dynamic is so far too that it just doesn't work for most people. Which is why so many people are single.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:37 PM
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I am not a doctor. Again, PM me. You may have already figured it out though. And you aren't very knowledgable about healthcare because there are many levels of nurses and many do earn well into the 6 figures.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:33 PM
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Lots of women would like to be SAHMs or part time working moms, but simply don't have the option for it. I have met so many delusional women who think they're going to be a SAHM, even ones who are really attractive, but they are all overlooked for the woman who is stunningly beautiful AND has a successful career (even if it doesn't pay that well) because that's an even bigger trophy to most men. Why choose the pretty trophy when you can have a pretty trophy with bells and whistles that is so uni…
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:31 PM
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Its just not practical. 2 good incomes now were the equivalent of 1 good income (the husband's) in the past, for the same quality of life. If a man is making a massive salary on his own, he often does not want to settle down until he's 45-50 just because he can have lots of pretty plates and freedom. He can even get his plates pregnant and pay for them to care for the child because that's accepted in today's world too. Its important to be realistic about the times.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:29 PM
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I don't even feel like that is enough now. If you live somewhere like a big city or liberal area, there are lots of women with model looks walking around who have feminine careers, so he has too many options. I don't feel like it is practical to want to rely on this. Sure, if it works out great, but how do you know he won't leave you for a younger woman in 10 years? I think a career for a woman is also a must in today's world.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:27 PM
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Its not practical unless you live in a rural area and marry your high school sweetheart. Why? Because it is not socially accepted that women without jobs and careers are golddiggers, leaches, or lazy. That's just how it is now. Also, it now takes 2 good incomes to create the life than ONE good income (the husband's) used to provide. So if you live somewhere even moderately expensive (like a big city or liberal area) then he will see a lack of career as a red flag. You can have a goal of being a …
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:25 PM
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PM me
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:23 PM
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PM me and I'll tell you. Doctors and things close to that ARE STEM. Do you not realize that the "S" in STEM stands for science? Lol
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:21 PM
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Okay so cook at home and bring it to a park with him. Excuses. He's playing you. Been there!
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:20 PM
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It sounds like he's playing you, honestly. Men lie, which is unfortunate. It sounds like he's trying to trick you into being a plate.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:19 PM
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many men will not want to take care of a woman 100% financially in today's day and age because marriage is too much of a legal risk for a man. DING DING DING!!! This is why its IMPORTANT to have a degree or at least a strong job in today's world as a woman. Why? Because now women who don't are considered golddiggers or lazy and most men will see it as an immediate red flag. If you live in a big city or expensive state, men DO care about your job. Why? Because what 1 man could afford back in the …
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:16 PM
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Exactly. I'm still RPW but I'm a modern one who likes feminism (when it isn't taken too far). It used to be about equality of the sexes, and then one day SJWs went crazy and decided that women are superior and its okay to say so because they have been repressed so long by patriarchy. Think that all you want, but it only will dig you into a hole. Women have way more rights now which is absolutely necessary to avoid being stuck in abusive marriages (which was COMMON decades ago), or stuck with men…
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:12 PM
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(Probably unpopular opinion) : I think feminism is a good thing that got ruined by women who are rabid man-haters and women who want to dictate what other women should/shouldn't choose to do in life. Agreed. I love the opportunities I've been presented with due to feminism (dream job, dream hobbies, independence so no one can take advantage of me like common happened in marriages in previous decades), but I only reap the benefits of this because I am still extremely attractive and fit. What I th…
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:09 PM
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Yes, I think I'm a feminist but I think most women take it too far and want to go beyond basic biology, which is impossible. Feminism has allowed me to be beautiful and also make my own money and not answer to anyone, but I still adhere to traditional gender roles because that's basic biology. I'd consider myself a modern RPW, which is what you'll find in big cities.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:07 PM
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Ignore, avoid. Nothing else you can do
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:05 PM
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Sexual power and status or looks being correlated will never change though because thats biologically ingrained in us lol. That's like saying one day they will stop using sex to sell products. Nope! #1 best seller lol. That will never change though because we are still animals at heart and only the strong survive. That's why we prioritize "terrible" people. They get ahead. That isn't going to change. Culture now is no more sick than it used to be. We are in the most peaceful time in history righ…
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:02 PM
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Umm HEALTHCARE? You are literally taking care of people for a living, just like being a mom.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 07:59 PM
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I live in a huge city, probably one of the largest in the US. It is impossible to know what someone is doing even half of the day. And with online dating, plates are endless. If I started talking about kink related stuff on the first date, all that would happen is the guy would become obsessed with hooking up ASAP. I look like a curvy megan fox so honestly I don't see that scaring away many guys, and would make them more excited/motivated if anyway.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 09:46 AM
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Ummm I am an attractive woman from a large liberal city (actually from 3) and that IS my experience.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:46 AM
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I am a 9, a 10 for a guy who has common interests. I've modeled but now work a feminine STEM job, as background info for me. I wear fitted clothing that shows off my hourglass shape but is not revealing. I dress casual, but unfortunately even a pair of jeans and a white tshirt looks "sexual" on me because of my large bust and hips paired with a very tiny waist. Wealthy men in my area (Los Angeles) are ALWAYS players because its a playground for the wealthy and none of them have intentions of com…
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:45 AM
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Sorry but even those guys will still lead women on for months and months and month and months until they actually get sex lol. They are able to wait because they secretly have lots of other women on the side they are also doing this to. That is the reality of hookup culture now.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:43 AM
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Yes. Most men overestimate what they are bringing to the table for a woman, so now there are a bunch of 9s dating 7s thinking they're settling, but the 7s are playing the 9s because they have and overinflated idea of what they are bringing to the table, so somehow these 7s end up spinning 9s as plates. Don't ask me how because I'm just as shocked as you are, but this is what happens in big cities. In big cities, women have to date so far "down" that its almost embarrassing. A 9 woman would have …
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 08:42 AM
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I'm 29 and I've dated anywhere from 3 years younger to 17 years older. I usually date within 6-7 years of my age. I'd prefer to date someone around my age just because I don't want to be taking care of some older man when I'm a little older, but its really hard to find men in big cities who want to commit before like 45. There's basically a 100% chance I'm mistaking secret players who approach me for quality men who are interested in me. I believe that is what is happening to me. I think actual …
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 01:46 AM
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Ummm most of the time I'm wearing basic black pants and a tshirt with my hair in a bun. That doesn't stop men AT ALL.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 01:41 AM
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Upset? No. Annoyed because I wasted my time? Yes. Just like her! I can relate to her wasting her time and being led on, so yes this is about her. Being in the upper tier of attractiveness when dating is the same as being below average of attractiveness. You're used by guys to hook up with, while the average girls get all the commitment because they aren't stereotyped to be "not hot enough to be seen in public with" or "a sex doll that will forever get hit on by other guys and probably cheat" eve…
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 10:05 PM
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Okay and how would you suggestion someone be "valuable enough" if they are extremely attractive, fit, feminine, 2 degrees, 6 figure job, very sweet, lots of hobbies, creative, and kind? This is bad advice, in my opinion.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 08:26 PM
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I really hate people trying to give advice like this. There are plenty of guys who will call you their girlfriend in order to get sex, and then "dump" you or cheat on you secretly. So its not really her fault. If you're really attractive, this happens a lot. If you're unattractive, this happens a lot too. Guys aren't stupid and they know all they have to do is repeatedly put in effort and act a certain way with saying certain things, in order to get a woman. If he acts identical to guy who actua…
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 08:24 PM
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Exactly. There are also guys who LIE and would call her their girlfriend only to get sex, and then end up "dumping" her. That is the state of the world these days. So trying to withhold sex will put off a lot of high quality men. And even doing so will screw you over if you get a guy who calls you his girlfriend and then "dumps" you after sex or perpetually cheats on you, aka forces you into a non-monogamous relationship without your consent. That's what I'm saying. I've seen it a lot.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 08:18 PM
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That is a problematic comment because, unfortunately, if she lives in a big city or a liberal area, you are going to be losing out on a lot of high quality men who won't stick around if you won't hook up at some point. Also, there are men who DO LIE and say you're their girlfriend just to hook up with you. I've seen it.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 08:16 PM
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Its true in my area (and a lot of other major metropolitan liberal areas) where there are an abundance of single men. For example, as someone who primarily only dates men in their 30s-40s, I would say I'm an 8.75-9, and a 10 for a guy who has common interests with me, in all honestly. And end up getting played by 7-8s. I have no interest in dating 9-10s because I already know they have too many options. Also, whenever I've dated 6s, they are just too insecure or overcompensating that its a turno…
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 08:12 PM
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Its not just me, it has happened to a lot of people I know. Its mostly my area.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 08:05 PM
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Well I think the feminist movement really took it too far in that it ended up giving the top percentage of men even MORE opportunity, thus forcing the top percentage of woman to have to settle for less when it comes to relationships.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 07:02 PM
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I would be concerned that he would want to go back to his old ways once he gets bored again
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 06:59 PM
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Women who get guys who only want sex are after a certain type, the alpha Chads and Tyrones who get all the ladies anyway. That's not true though. Women who get guys only wanted sex are approached by and pursued by guys who only want sex, but often times they aren't upfront about it so the woman only knows when its too late.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 06:58 PM
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Its true in big cities where there is lots and lots of competition, so that guys have no incentive to commit
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 06:57 PM
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But how do you know he's not still cheating on you and only told you because he got caught? This is why a lot of men secretly go to escorts and no one finds out. I mean if you're okay with not knowing, that's fine, but I would image someone who has cheated once is definitely cheating again but in a way that they would never get caught (like paying for it versus an affair).
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 07:00 AM
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That's really really rare to find. Especially in liberal areas or big cities. Why? Because there are TONS of fit, beautiful, accomplished, interesting, feminine, sweet, caring, creative women to choose from.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 06:56 AM
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If she is being ignored at home, especially emotionally, then yes that could happen. But men are hardwired to pursue casual sex, and typically women only do so when in pursuit of a relationship, so if the new guy lies to her and tells her he wants to start over with her, then she would be likely to cheat. But otherwise, I really don't think so. It would be more like 70/30
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 06:55 AM
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Yes, you have to date FAR below your league in order to get a relationship, especially because men at an equivalent league or even a little lower have no reason to commit in today's society. So while in previous decades, she could get a man on a similar level to marry her, that's no longer the case and she has to go wayyyy down the totem pole for commitment. This is kind of a problem because it given average men far too many options in my opinion, since men above them have no need to commit due …
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 06:53 AM
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So when you settle for marriage, you're usually settling. You're not going to get a super hot guy who is also wealthy and who also treats you like a Princess. So you lower your standards, naturally, to get a guy to settle down with you in a LTR and marriage. That's normal. So because your standards are lower than your ideals (in general), a lot of men will take advantage of this and pretend to want a relationship when they don't, in order to lead women on to hook up with no intention of marriage…
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 06:49 AM
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Yes I live in LA. And yes a lot of men do here.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 06:46 AM
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I think church or other conservative groups are really the only way to find true red pill women for friendships because otherwise you're going to end up with more of a hybrid or blue pill because she isn't interested in conservative groups or ideology.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 03:36 AM
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In my opinion, its equally hard for both of those. The lipstick lesbian gets used a lot due to her beauty, and the truck driver lesbian has the implication that she doesn't take good care of herself so she, too, has fewer LTR prospects.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 03:35 AM
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I think its much harder for a gay man to get a boyfriend than it would be for a lesbian to get a girlfriend just because of how we are biologically wired. All the lesbians I know are always in a LTR and all the gay guys I know are perpetually single even if they don't want to be, regardless of looks. The thing about LGBT is that there would always be new lesbians on the scene because a lot of people realize later on that they're gay, or a bisexual may decide to focus more on women, especially if…
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 03:33 AM
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I also think some young women are open to relationships but they just end up getting sex. That is literally me in a nutshell. Its really obnoxious to hear people talking about how women who haven't had LTRs are only after hookups. No. A lot are NOT after hookups but are perpetually led on by nice guys (who aren't even really attractive or Alpha), and then dropped. That's what happens when you're in the upper tier of attractiveness as a woman.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 03:30 AM
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Date really shy guys (who are often not very attractive, but maybe) at school or don't date anyone at school at all. Or date a guy from school who seems a little obsessed with you (and make him work long and hard to win you over). Just hope and pray he isn't secretly a player or only after the chase, because I've seen that happen a lot too. Those are pretty much the only choices.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 03:27 AM
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I feel like Alphas not wanting more than one woman is really uncommon though unless they became an Alpha at a very late age and were always a Beta beforehand and is set in his Beta ways, which is very rare.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 03:26 AM
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Well unfortunately there are a lot of Betas that randomly decide they are going to be Alphas or at least live like they're one. And a very small percentage of Alphas that are actually more Beta but appear Alpha. So I don't think its so black and white, while theory is somewhat true.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 03:24 AM
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Why would you not want to know that your husband has broken your trust as well as promises? See that makes no sense to me. Are those women really insecure or 100% financially dependent on their husband with an inability to make a living themselves?
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 03:23 AM
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This is exactly why so many men end up buying time with escorts lol. I know you're a man, but I honestly feel like men are more likely to cheat.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 03:21 AM
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Exactly. I could care less about the cheating. Its the betray of trust that I'd care about. You can't take back a betray of trust, even if you do regret cheating. I also don't think divorce is terrible for children because half of all couples are divorced so children are used to it, and even more never even got married. So the likelihood is that more than half of his/her classmates will have divorced parents. Its not a big deal, in my opinion. At least not in a more liberal area.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 03:21 AM
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No. Broke your trust once and they'll feel like they can do it again. Especially if you don't know why exactly he did it (which he likely won't be honest about since its something he wasn't getting at home). Also, a lot of men cheat with escorts secretly and I'd be concerned he would start doing that instead. In my mind, why not just be in an open relationship at the point where they have to cheat even once? What is the point, in my opinion? Unless that woman is fine with being a "kept" woman an…
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/17 03:19 AM
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Have you never looked at my post history? Lol. Clearly there is a problem that needs fixing. I just listed 5 characteristics to work on, and obviously I'm kind of a perfectionist considering I have modeled, I have my dream body, and 2 STEM degrees lol. So yes, if there is a problem, I fix it. Most of my "personal characteristics" are related to being introverted/shy, and an inability to spot pickup artist types at first, which are probably the biggest two.
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/17 06:14 AM
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I've been on step #2 for like 10 years lol
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/17 04:36 AM
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I will check it out. I don't really know how its going to help much though because I have absolutely no trouble meeting men and getting repeat dates from them. I'm just having issues with LTR commitment and timewasting. My theory is that I'm approached way too much by men who are pickup artists or not serious in general, and the "better guys" are staying away because they think I must be taken. When I've approached guys on my own, they almost always think its a scam and some even told me later t…
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/17 11:42 PM
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I can provide things "wrong" with myself, but it doesn't really relate to my issue. I am always improving myself, and always plan to. That's how I've gotten this far. I just don't see why you need me to list them? I can be very shy, a little socially awkward in large groups, a perfectionist toward myself but not really toward others, I tend to take things literally at times even if it isn't meant to be, etc. Like I just listed 5 off the top of my head lol
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/17 11:40 PM
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No one understands. A lot of people in my family think I'm secretly a lesbian because of my lack of boyfriends lol. I've asked people. Usually when I bring up having never really had a boyfriend, their faces have a look of shock on them. Its kind of uncomfortable so I don't do it a lot unless I know the person well. What I think is happening is that men in general think I'm taken for whatever reason, but pickup artists and shady people could care less so they approach anyway. I don't know.
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/17 03:08 PM
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Yeah I've mentioned it. I'm probably a little on the spectrum. I think very logically.
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/17 03:06 PM
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You're very close, but not exactly. I would consider those careers STEM or borderline STEM by the way. The "S" in STEM stands for science after all, and advanced degree careers with a science base all require advanced math. Well the answers they gave me were ones that weren't true or didn't help anything lol. Like "I'm just not looking for a relationship now" (when they said they were) or "I prefer women who are lanky and underweight" (except you knew I was a curvy 120 lbs when you met me lol) o…
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/17 04:20 AM
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No, I am not insecure. I'm very confident. Like I said, I'l probably a little on a spectrum so that type of stuff does not come easy to me. I have received 4 comments on this thread alone telling me my career isn't STEM. One person asked me if it had advanced math, another accused me of doing women's studies, another of psych, and another saying that they doubt its STEM. And you're telling me its common for people to believe that an ex-model can move into STEM? Right. Stereotypes exist. Read all…
/r/RedPillWomen17/05/17 09:17 PM
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Nothing I've said on here is contradictory because I've 100% written the truth lol. Yeah stuff might come off contradictory though, in general, whether in real life or on reddit because my life is full of extremes one way and another. For example, I've been "ugly" and plain and then later went on to model. And then went from modeling to a STEM career which is the opposite of the stereotypes intelligence-wise. And yeah, I think guys have been suspicious because of this, like it could come off as …
/r/RedPillWomen17/05/17 09:20 AM
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Yes that is almost exactly what I say when they say they are not looking for a relationship at 3 months or whenever I bring up the exclusivity talk. Its like once a month passes, they completely forget we ever had that conversation. And I'm definitely over them. I don't want to be around someone who lied to me, wasted my time, and then didn't even listen to me when I told them I'm not interested in their orbiting. If I come off too bitchy, it backfires. Because they will try to make our mutual f…
/r/RedPillWomen17/05/17 01:12 AM
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But what I'm not understand is... what do I "have to give"?? Like everyone on here is being like "looks don't matter if you're getting dates initially!!(which I am)" and "guys don't care about your job, income, any of that!" So what am I "offering" then? I don't get it. Are you talking about my hobbies and interests? Because the sole reason I DO like these guys (who are very average by the way) is because we DO bond over common hobbies and interests. Like I said, the guys I date are average. The…
/r/RedPillWomen17/05/17 01:10 AM
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If anything, I don't disclose everything about my life quickly enough. And I am quite shy, but non usually in one-on-one situations. I usually reveal things slowly because I wouldn't want to scare someone away or come on strong. I would say there's still a lot more to me to discover at 3 or 6 months, since I have so many interests, hobbies, and goals. But I would say he SHOULD know enough to know that he wants to be exclusive, by that point. Especially since we bonded over common interests. I ha…
/r/RedPillWomen16/05/17 10:35 PM
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I've pretty much only lived in the most expensive areas in the US. It just sort of panned out that way. How do I make a man fall in love them? Because we bond over common interests, so this makes no sense to me. I am extremely interesting and we always go on wild adventures. I have really unique interests so I know I'm interesting. I've had many nights with guys where we accidentally stay up the whole night talking and then the sun is up. I just don't get it.
/r/RedPillWomen16/05/17 07:47 PM
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I know that guys primarily only care about looks: a fit body, feminine features, and also a feminine personality/disposition. However, I am in one of the most expensive cities in the entire U.S. and because of that, men here DO care about employment. Why? Because there's a lot of girls who are unemployed or barely make enough to cover basic bills and can't afford upkeep on their appearance otherwise. SAHMs in this city are VERY uncommon. Its not practical unless he's massively wealthy due to the…
/r/RedPillWomen16/05/17 06:24 AM
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No personality did NOT stop developing! I went on to get 2 degrees in college and pursue even more hobbies and activities. What I was saying is that when you grow up not as "the pretty one" then you have to work hard to get places. I saw people around me grow up as "the pretty one" and they got everything handed to them and had no need to really develop their personality. I'm saying that I did BOTH. I'm not placing an abnormal amount of focus on my looks because I also have a high paid feminine …
/r/RedPillWomen16/05/17 12:46 AM
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Honestly, I'd rate myself a 9 or a 10 for someone who has common interests with me. Just because I take such good care of myself and have a lot going for myself. That's just my opinion though
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 09:27 PM
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I DO show my personality lol. I have a very "set" personal style down to my car and clothes. Lots of hobbies and interests. I bond with these guys over personal interests. Here is what happened. As a teen I was a plain jane. I still got attention from guys, but it wasn't sexual attention. I didn't wear makeup, wore baggier clothing... wasn't a tomboy but not feminine. Then when I was like 17 I magically became super attractive and started getting LOTS of attention. But before that, I was REALLY …
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 09:26 PM
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Send me a message for it actually
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 07:38 PM
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Also how would you calculate value? Looks alone or what you have to bring to the table? I can send you a photo of my clothed body with my head cut off. But I kind of feel like its pointless because my face is what I am complimented on the most after my femininity (I have the softest voice ever lol)
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 07:06 PM
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Big groups, not a lot. Its usually one-on-one or small groups. A big group thing is usually like for a special occasion like once a month maybe. I smile a lot and am extremely warm :)
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 06:47 PM
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Okay so what are men looking for? I am fit and work out everyday, extremely open minded, the softest voice you've ever heard :), a warm open feminine demeanor, extremely feminine and complimented on it all the time. What else do I need? I never said men cared about those things, I just listed them as qualities I like in myself. So what do men want then that I don't have? :)
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 06:45 PM
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I have those too lol but those don't bother me because we never had anything
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 06:43 PM
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Not around my own friends no because I know them. I am not necessarily shy around his friends (I'm actually usually not), its just usually in big groups. I know that might sound weird since a lot of shy people tend to be shy one-on-one rather than in big groups, but I think its because its hard for me to process everyone's conversations and body language at once. So I need to kind of assess everyone and everything quietly for a bit first until I understand how they each function and react. It co…
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 06:05 AM
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Because if you tell me at the start that you're looking for a monogamous relationship and then act like it for months, and then when I actually ask for one and you say you don't want one, that's called being a liar. Why would I want to be a FWB? I would rather be a prostitute if thats the case because I would at least be getting paid lol. I mean I wouldn't be, but FWB is pointless to my goals.
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 06:01 AM
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I talk a lot one-on-one, its groups that I'm shy in. Dates go extremely well. Yes they've met my friends and I've met theirs. In big cities though, there are larger groups of friends though so you don't typically meet them all right away. You meet a few at a time.
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 05:28 AM
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Yeah that's what I'm saying. Everyone here is acting like I'm some crazy person, but its relatively common, especially in LA, to not be able to get monogamy. That being said, I know its not impossible. I would date out of state but I'd be worried about catfish or secretly married men looking to have a long distance affair and not tell me about it.
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 05:27 AM
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I will not date men from the internet ever again. I meet men at in eal life hobbies and interests groups. You can draw whatever conclusions you want but this is an internet forum where I needed to lay out the facts about myself to be tailored advice. No one does that in real life.
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 02:38 AM
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I don't know what the issue is so I can't take responsibility for an unknown issue lol
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 01:51 AM
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As a pre-teen and teenager I was a plain jane who wore oversized clothing. As a 20something I was attractive and modeled. I am now 28 almost 29 and have a career job now. Read my post history.
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 01:50 AM
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Through the instagram snapchat feature I see a lot of my family members posting videos of their kids or what they're doing that day, yes. Facebook too.
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 01:46 AM
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This happens even if I don't hook up with them
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 01:45 AM
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The guys who are orbiting are already the ones who said no. That's why I'm mad
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 01:45 AM
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Because every time one of them contacts me again, it reminds me that I'm still single a decade later because these men lied to me about initially wanting a relationship but then didn't actually want one
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 12:06 AM
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No its that I never go for the most attractive, wealthiest, or most charismatic in the room because I assume they are a player
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 12:06 AM
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Well I know that. I am great to men that have stuff in common with me. Unfortunately most of them just happen to have lots and lots of options and don't need to commit to anyone
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 12:05 AM
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I used to model and am very, very fit. My face is what is complimented the most. I have an hourglass shape at 120 lbs. There is no way. I WISH that was the problem because then I'd just get a personal trainer, nutritionist, stylist, and plastic surgeon to fix everything!!!
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 12:04 AM
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Okay and for how many years and since when have you been single here? Because tinder and all of that has completely changed the dating game, as well as social dating norms.
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 12:04 AM
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Dating sites are a HORRIBLE idea for big cities because there are so many different scenes and hobbies you can get involved in to meet men. That leaves the internet for those who want to hook up with no real ties to you so they can get away with ghosting or women on the side, or even lying.
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 12:03 AM
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I don't really seek out alpha guys. These guys aren't super attractive, they don't make that much money, and they are very charismatic. This happened 10 years ago and it still happens now. It has nothing to do with my age, or my looks.
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 12:01 AM
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I do, obviously lol. But its EXHAUSTING and why I made this post
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 12:00 AM
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I don't think keeping orbiters is a good idea. If they weren't able to commit before, they won't be able to suddenly commit. So what is their purpose? If a guy has shown his intentions to want you as more than a friend, he's not a friend lol
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:46 PM
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I agree with this. My SMV and RMV are both really, really high. But in big cities that is kind of irrelevant because there are so many women to choose from. Its like a candy shop.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:44 PM
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I have really high self-esteem :). Oh my gosh and I spend my time volunteering and helping others which really helps with it :). What do you mean?
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:42 PM
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Yes dating apps are HORRIBLE and I learned this the hard way. Its 100% of men who want to hook up. Women definitely get fucked over and it is not our fault. That is what people from small towns and suburbs can't understand. These men ACT like they want a relationship and SAY they do. Then you ask for it and its a big NOPE. The woman did nothing wrong!
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:42 PM
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Exactly. And that is not my fault because these men put a lot of time and effort into our dates. You've obviously never lived in a big city because this is common behavior
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:39 PM
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1.) I don't update that much maybe only about once a week. I use it to keep up with family and friends I don't live by. 2.) I don't care about any one of them, it is just the collective number of them bothering me is a lot. 3.) I have been in monk mode since October/November of last year. I also met most of these men at mutual interest hobby groups to begin with. I have lots of interests.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:38 PM
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Ummm the point of this post is that these men will harass me by making new accounts, texting me instead, or running into me in person at hobby interest groups where I typically meet men
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:37 PM
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No, I was lied to. I was told upfront that they were looking for a relationship, and then after a few months we hooked up (I didn't hook up with all of them) and then asked for exclusivity but they either said "I'm not looking for a relationship" (then why did you lie???) or "lets just see where things go!" (even though its month 3+). This would have happened if they agreed to be in an exclusive relationship, because they would have up and left after they lied to get what they wanted, so it make…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:36 PM
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I am a shy introvert. ??? That doesn't mean I don't have social activities I enjoy. They just aren't of the party variety
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:34 PM
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No I mean I'll happily take the blame, but I don't see myself really doing anything bad here except for being shy. I have received dozens of good suggestions (only 1 on this post though) but most of the ones I get are N/A to me.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:29 PM
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Yes but then they bother me on another social media
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:28 PM
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Around 20 orbiters
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:28 PM
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No there would be about 20 orbiters
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:27 PM
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They get away with it because these young women don't realize they are being played until it's too late. That's my problem. And the guy isn't even that physically attractive, definitely not well off financially, not even "special" enough in my eyes to even be appealing as a player!! That's why they are a covert player where no one realizes it until they've already been played. Like I've thought about it and if I wanted to get involved with a player, I would get involved with someone who was at l…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:27 PM
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What? Of these orbiters? Maybe about 10? I haven't been with that many guys total. This is over about 12-13 years.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:22 PM
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Not in big cities lol
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:22 PM
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They are completely private. I am involved with a lot of hobbies so I have people added and usually meet men through hobbies so that's why it is easy for them.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:21 PM
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Okay cool, that's your opinion, about someone on the internet that has laid out the facts about themselves. I used to be ugly and that's how I know I'm not anymore lol
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:20 PM
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Well, obviously! But the problem is that there are SO many of them that its me constantly getting messages I have to ignore and it just makes me want to hide from everything.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:20 PM
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Well it usually works like a snowball effect, which is why I'm annoyed by it. They'll start liking my photos, maybe commenting a comment related to a photo. Then when the perfect photo strikes, they'll reply to it and ask us to hang out again, maybe apologize and say things were weird for them when we were together. If I give in and I meet with them again, its the same old thing all over again where they are just trying to hook up and won't commit to an exclusive relationship even though I am re…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:19 PM
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That is not really practical because of how many hobbies and interests I am involved in (typically where I meet guys) where people from that are added to my account. I'm pretty social.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:16 PM
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I've asked them all why. I just get excuses from them. Like one guy said I was too big for his tastes but I'm 120 lbs lol. Several guys told me we have nothing in common, which is hilarious because all we ever did was talk about things we had in common. One guy said "omg I had no idea you wanted a relationship!!!" even though we both talked about how we did on date #2. Really weird things like that. I WISH they would be honest. I LOVE blunt honesty because that's what I understand the best. But …
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:15 PM
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Numbers? 50%?
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:13 PM
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I've been on a break since October/November. I'm in monk mode. This doesn't mean that I still don't get harassed by orbiters. I am just looking for exclusivity at this point because I can't even get that far.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:50 PM
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You obviously didn't read this post before commenting, because I wrote that when I DO delete them, they straight up harass men. Hence the orbiting. They will add me back, text me, make a new account, run into me in person at a hobby group. Things like that. Its not one guy. Its the collective amount of them that really annoys me. If it was one guy I wouldn't care, but its A LOT of them due to how many times this has happened. Yep, posting pictures of a horseback riding trail today is SUCH a vali…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:49 PM
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Umm WHAT? How? How else would I be able to communicate with my family and friends who don't live by me?
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:47 PM
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I laid out what I look like. I laid out my career. I've laid out facts. Its not an opinion.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:47 PM
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Because this is a throwaway account solely for this issue. These men followed/added me from before when we were still dating and I straight up ghosted when they declined my exclusivity offer after months. I have removed some of them before but all they do is add me again, text me, run into me in person, or bother me. Its not one guy that bothers me, its the collective amount of them. I don't post thirst traps. I just post about my life and hobbies.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:46 PM
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Because a lot of them followed/added me from before when we were still dating and I straight up ghosted when they declined my exclusivity offer after months. I have removed some of them before but all they do is add me again, text me, run into me in person, or bother me. Its not one guy that bothers me, its the collective amount of them.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:45 PM
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No, I am extremely shy in person. I have listened to Matthew and he is a pickup artist. There are a few others on youtube and watched them as well and while they are a little better, I feel like they only gave me common sense advice that I already knew
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:42 PM
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An orbiter is not a woman's fault! If he tries to stick around, there's little that can be done to stop him if he is persistent.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:41 PM
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I rarely think this is how it works in places like Manhattan and LA. There are way too many options for men for a man to ask for that
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:40 PM
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Okay well how can I prevent being involved with non-committed losers then if they tell me on date 1 or 2 that they are looking for a relationship?
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:39 PM
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"So we've been seeing each other for awhile and I think I'd like for us to only see each other and be monogamous. What do you think about that?"
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:39 PM
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Umm why? If I want to post when I'm out with my family or doing something fun like horseback riding, I'm going to post. It is completely ridiculous to think that social media isn't the new norm. That's like telling someone to get rid of their cell phone. Good luck staying in contact with your loved ones who don't live near you.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:36 PM
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I have to list the facts about myself on a forum so I get the most tailored replies for my situation
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:35 PM
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All over. All the dating apps/sites (NEVER AGAIN because its only guys who want casual sex), hobby/interest groups, through friends, randomly in places like coffee shops, out and about. Its usually through hobby groups or mutual interest type of things since I am on the shy side and in order to end up talking, it usually starts with an ice breaker of a common interest. I've dates different occupations, different races, different heights, different ages. Wide variety.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:34 PM
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It is instagram snapchat. I have an account and sometimes I post when I am doing a cool activity or with family. That is not a big deal. I have these social medias to keep in contact with family or friends I do not live by since I have moved twice, and I'm not going to give that up. I do not "send" anyone anything. They choose to click and view what I posted to my "story"
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:32 PM
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That makes no sense at all then. A narcissist's goal is power, and someone who is shy and introverted could care less about those things or else they would be outgoing people. I couldn't care less what I look like, but this IS RPW so listing what I look like is important to do because guess what? Men care. Again, this is RPW. If I were a 6 no one would be making comments like yours, but factually I am not.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:31 PM
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That's what people don't understand. I feel like all the replies I'm getting are from people in small town, rural areas, or small suburbs because everything they are saying is not applicable. In big cities in liberal areas, there are an abundance of women who are single. A man has no reason to commit if he is of decent value because he has so many options for pseudo-relationships with all the benefits and none of the commitment. Its really dumb.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:29 PM
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My social media is completely private and I don't use it a lot. I use it to keep in touch with family and friends (since I have moved twice). I'm not out there spamming hot selfies of myself. I'm posting about my life, my hobbies, and interests. I don't even use it a lot! Sometimes I go weeks without updating, but I definitely lurk my family and friend's posts.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:27 PM
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I am completely different than that woman because I IMMEDIATELY walk away when a man isn't giving me the things I am looking for. I would never be in her situation, especially not for 18 months of my life, because the minute I ask for exclusivity and don't get it, guess what? I walk away. These men DO tell me upfront they want exclusivity, but they lied. I am constantly improving myself. You should check my history because I have made posts about it. The only thing I haven't been able to fix is …
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:26 PM
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Yes. There are family oriented areas of LA like Pasadena or the south bay for sure.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:24 PM
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And would you say this is also true in places like Manhattan and LA where there are so many options? I am open, honest, and upfront about what I want on date #2 always. Date #1 if the subject comes up. They always say they are looking for a relationship, as do I. But that isn't the case. So why does this happen? All my social media is private.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:23 PM
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I care because this leads to pickup artists hitting on me that I don't initially recognize as pickup artists
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 10:23 PM
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I listed those items because otherwise I get advice like "you're not feminine enough!" "you need to get fit!" "you aren't bringing anything to the table" etc
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:54 PM
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Yes, always on date #2 (unless he bring it up on date #1) I tell him I am looking for an exclusive monogamous relationship, and if he does not say he is also looking for that, I walk away. There have been plenty of guys I have done that to. That is what makes me angry. I am getting my time wasted as we go on dates for months after that point, thinking we are building up to exclusivity. Only to be shut down when I ask for exclusivity around month 3 or whenever it happens. I live in LA, and I do t…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:53 PM
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Formal dates, lots of topics, lots of mutual interests, introduced to friends (which is flat out embarrassing when I see them in the future and we have split). Yes I'm being vague to avoid identification. I'm not insecure, but I guess I am awkward. Read that article and the advice she's saying wouldn't apply to me. She's telling that woman that she doesn't have her shit together, but I have mine together. I am very "me" so that article doesn't really apply? Its not that guys don't love (it doesn…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:50 PM
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I've been there done that. Its just hard to get guys to settle down in big cities in liberal states
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:42 PM
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I am far too shy to be a narcissist lol
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:41 PM
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I would say it is a modern version, not a 100% traditional version
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:41 PM
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No, I used to be a model. I have a different career now. I do believe my location is the problem too. But its not impossible.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:40 PM
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Online were the absolute worst. Its only guys who want to hook up, in my area. I put something similar in my profile and guys just ignored it. They still said they wanted a relationship when they didn't.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:39 PM
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Men in one of the most expensive cities in the US unfortunately DO care about your job!! Because this city is full of gold diggers, so it works opposite of other places. I'm not blaming anyone for my problems. I don't hook up with all these guys. What are my red flags aside from not being able to get a relationship? All the guys I've dated had different careers, different races, different ages. We all have similar hobbies and interests though, but they vary from guy to guy. I don't refuse to thi…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:38 PM
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Yes! I would care a lot less if I had a relationship, but because I don't, its straight up insulting!
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:33 PM
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Yeah I've figured out that the best strategy for me is to friendzone a guy for at least a year, try to make him into a bff, and then accept his dating requests if it gets that far. That's just about the only way it will work for me. I do ask a man about his past relationships and literally all of these guys have LTR history. They have all dated women for years, and often after me end up dating that woman for years. It has been impossible to find a guy who doesn't like hooking up, so far, because…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:32 PM
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I don't talk about my body in real life. On forums, yes, because I'm here for advice and the more descriptive I am, the better tailored advice I will get. That is a fact. How I am on this forum is not how I am in real life. I am very shy, and an introvert. I am not this seductive outgoing creature you are making me out to be. I do not dominate the conversation. I am docile and feminine. I could just have a very bad luck streak, yes. That is not an impossibility. And yes, I do not respect a guy w…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:30 PM
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Ummm what? Why would I send these men pictures? LOL
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:25 PM
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I actually kind of do stop caring about their feelings once I realize they are liars who told me they wanted a relationship and acted like we were building one, only to decline exclusivity. That is an instant turnoff to me I can't just act like a total bitch to guys who come back into the picture because then they'll tell everyone I'm a bitch and try to convince everyone we have in common with our hobbies about how horrible I am so that it distracts from the fact that they pretended to want a re…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:24 PM
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That's fine, I don't mind friendship. What I do mind is spending months going on dates with someone who told me they are looking for a relationship, building what seems to be a relationship, and then declining exclusivity when I ask. That is called lying and wasting my time.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:22 PM
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I do have that type of orbiter too. I DON'T have sex with all of these guys.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:21 PM
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I don't mention it unless someone asks. Online is not real life. Online I need to lay out the facts to get the best, most tailored advice
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:20 PM
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Social media has nothing to do with dating at all. That has to do with hobbies, interests, keeping up with the lives of friends (especially since I've moved twice), and at best networking.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:19 PM
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I have a high paid feminine STEM career in health care. 2 degrees. I also used to model before this. I date men in a lower or the same socioeconomic class. I don't really discriminate. Just as long as he has a full time career type of job, I'm fine with it. I make a good salary and I live in a big city so as long as he does his part then its fine. They have all different types of careers and are all so different (different races, ages, etc). That friend you wrote about sounds exactly like me lol…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 08:35 AM
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Some of them yes, some of them no. It just depends on the guy and our dynamic. I honestly think I should now friendzone/bff-zone a guy for at least a year before I even let him take me on a date. That's where I'm at right now.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 08:14 AM
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I don't like to argue. I just like to rule out things that are not applicable to me so I can have better-tailored suggestions/feedback. Seems pretty normal to me.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 08:13 AM
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I don't like to argue. I just like to rule out things that are not applicable to me so I can have better-tailored suggestions/feedback. Seems pretty normal to me.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 08:13 AM
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Sorry but I have TONS of hobbies and interests that I like to talk about. I bond with men over our shared hobbies and interests. It has nothing to do with my sexuality or sex appeal. I am boring to people who don't share common interests, for sure. I don't mention my career unless someone asks about it. I'm not out there wearing overly revealing outfits or talking about sex. I don't really understand why you are assuming these things lol. They are things that needed to be mentioned in my post to…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 08:12 AM
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Like what? What other areas should I work on? I have a good feminine job, lots of hobbies and interests, friends. Like what else do I work on?
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 08:00 AM
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I understand what people are telling me, but most of it does not apply to me. Replies are like "you're not feminine enough!" "you're in a high power career and that is a turnoff!" "you're going around flaunting your sexuality!" Like all these things that do not apply to me. Then when I write in the main post these facts about me, people get mad at me and tell me I'm arrogant or a narcissist. No, they're just facts.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:59 AM
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This guy I dated for 3 months over a decade ago just got my phone number SOMEHOW even though I have changed it twice since then, and have only had this number for 3 months. We have 0 connections who would have this number so I have no idea how he even got it. I told him it was the wrong number after typing it into facebook and seeing it was HIM. He knows I don't even live in the same area he does and haven't for years. I think he's also married and I know he has at least 1 child. So bizarre! I h…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:41 AM
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I feel like men will tell me anything to try and get a shot at hooking up with me, even if it means going on a million dates over months before getting that. I obviously mention I am looking for a relationship at least a few times (but not too much because I don't want to seem pushy or like I'm trying to fill a boyfriend void). So when we inevitably have the "what are we?" talk initiated by me, they either try to stop the talk in its tracks ("lets just see where things go!"), OR they end up tryi…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:37 AM
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I've used every dating app and site made for the most part (the main 5-6) over years with no luck. I could get all the dates, second dates, third and fourth and fifth dates ever, but no relationship. I don't like dating apps and sites now because men have way too many options, and also that feeling of who might sign up tomorrow that they've never seen. I typically meet guys through things we both have common. There is always some sort of mutual friends there, so I guess its the same as you. We h…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:31 AM
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Sorry but unless you want to split a room for rent with 3 other people, you have to have a successful career in one of the most expensive cities in America. That is expected and common. This was also a problem before I was "professionally successful" And I am also not romantically inept. Its just hard to find men who want the title here in a big city, but that doesn't mean I'm not romantically capable of being involved.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:23 AM
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I myself wish I was a troll but I'm not. And I'm not arrogant, but I do know it can come off that way because of the information/facts about myself I need to give as a backstory so that I don't get advice telling me to fix those things. A lot of my friends have this same problem, who live here. Okay, and its not even about whose fault it is (I never said it wasn't my fault), all I said was that I don't want to attract orbiters and I do, so I made a post asking for advice on them. I attract guys …
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 07:21 AM
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Yes and that makes it worse because, since I typically meet these men through hobbies and common interests, they tell everyone I'm a huge bitch or anything they can to make people dislike me so they don't look like the one who did something wrong. Its really stupid. That's why I've learned that its less drama to say nothing.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 05:15 AM
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I am introverted, so that would not apply to me. I am the bookish one who is shy.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 05:14 AM
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I'm definitely not a narcissist. I hate attention, I'm very shy and introverted, and my accounts are private. I don't think I attract weak men, or not only weak men. All the men are very different.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 05:13 AM
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/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 05:12 AM
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All 3 of those are set to private. I typically don't immediately unfriend but when I do, they will contact me in some other way like text, or run into me in person. I just don't want to see their faces, and because so many of them pull this, its like I can't escape being reminded that they all do this. I would just ignore it, but they all eventually wait for me to post the right thing so they can comment about it to try and ask to hang out again. I ignore it, but it just seems to fuel the fire. …
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 05:12 AM
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That makes no sense. If it was bad enough to not want to be around me for a relationship but still date me for 3+ months even if we aren't having sex, why would they come back again for more of something that is supposedly the reason they cut things off? Makes no sense at all lol
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 04:34 AM
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Some guys have actually, but they were gold digger types without jobs, and one guy who did have a job had extreme rage issues and some health condition that made his voice raspy. But other than that, nope. I have reviewed everything with guys I've dated and they won't give me an honest answer, or they say its common in LA where I live. I DO look sexual because I have a 37 inch bust, 24 inch waist, and 37 inch bottom at 120 pounds. But I can't help that. Right? I do a 1950s style of dress which s…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 04:33 AM
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I think romantic happiness is probably on the other side of some self exploration for you. What does that even mean? I know that aside from that, my shyness can also work against me.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 04:31 AM
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Lol my social media IS PRIVATE already!!! This doesn't stop men, who have obviously followed me BEFORE they said they didn't want a relationship to keep looking at it. And if I block them, some of them make new accounts. I just don't want to see these people at all. I don't want to see their little icon requesting me or them looking at my stuff. All the stuff you listed is not applicable to me. I used to model so I know I'm pretty, I stay fit with gym daily and keto diet, do my hair/makeup, I ha…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 04:30 AM
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And this... because you don't know how to converse with strangers without using your sexuality and social status to control their perception of you, and to dominate and control the conversation. No because I don't talk about my career to people unless they ask or I know them well. And as a shy introvert I definitely don't use my sexuality. The reason why guys would see me as more of a sex object is probably because I am an hourglass shape with a tiny waist and no matter what I wear that is fitte…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 04:13 AM
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I have tons of close friends. Its not logistically possible to see a lot of my closest friends several times a week as I have moved 2 times for work reasons, but I do have lots of close friends and friends I talk to like everyday. They are about 50/50 female male. Friends are easy to hold to except if its an insecure woman because she will make jabs about my physical appearance or things I do to the point where I ignore it and blow up one day and cut things off, or she cuts things off and spread…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 04:06 AM
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Okay and guess what, even if I do that, they STILL request to follow/add me, and then try to contact me some other way or "accidentally" run into me in person at a hobby group they know I'd be at. 1.) Many of my social medias ARE private! 2.) Most of the time I'm NOT posting photos of myself and am posting about my hobbies/interests (books, vacation, films, music, etc) and 3.) I'm not going to stop using something just because losers can contact me there. These guys still text me too. Am I suppo…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 01:26 AM
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That's because I'm NOT a troll
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 01:22 AM
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I do cut him loose immediately once I figure out he does not want to be in a relationship. My experiences are extremely common when you are very attractive in a big city. Guys will pretend to want a relationship and lead, but don't want to actually commit because there are a sea of 10s who are all single. That's how it works. Sorry, but I will continue to use social media. I have lots of hobbies and interests and half the time I'm posting pictures of my hobbies, not of ME! I am not going to let …
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 01:20 AM
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It depends on the guy. Its usually 3 to 6 months in, and before that it is dating and getting to know one another. The vetting process.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 01:18 AM
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Like half of them I did not ever hook up with, so that is not true. I don't disagree that these guys are looking to just hook up, and that is exactly why I made this post so I can figure out how to stop them in their tracks. I just don't want to see their usernames and photos pop up every time because it re-ignites the anger I felt when being led on for those months with lies of wanting a relationship, and having my time wasted.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 01:17 AM
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Well I live in a big city, but hobby interests within a big city are always small. And I'm not going to give up my hobbies for someone I don't even want in my life lol
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 01:17 AM
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No, what that person wrote is what happens lol. They do ask me to hang out a lot of the time, or try to re-ignite communication. And even if they don't right away, the reason I am making this post is because it makes me nervous that they will (they always do), and I want to stop these guys in their tracks. How they try to re-ignite is usually by waiting until I post something (a book, a film reference, an activity, etc) that they can give commentary on and use that as a segway to asking to hang …
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 01:15 AM
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If thats the case then why would I have so many friends and such a fulfilling life otherwise? This is COMMON if you're are very attractive and live in a big city. If you haven't had the experience of that, then you won't get it.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 01:13 AM
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I'm not a troll. What is my personality issue? How would I be able to have lots of friends but have a personality issue? Lol. I can prove you wrong right now! If I have this "personality disorder" then WHY would all these guys continue to follow me on social media and interact with me / text me, and things like that? Wouldn't they be running away from someone with a personality disorder? Answer me that. Exactly.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 12:53 AM
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Told me what? I just explained it. I'm not going on dates with anyone, these are OLD guys I dates sometime in the last 12 years of my life. I haven't dated at all this year.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 12:52 AM
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And? When someone says on date 1 or 2 that they are looking for a long term relationship, they continue taking me on dates, and we keep bonding over stuff we have in common, am I NOT supposed to think we are building up toward a relationship? When I ask for exclusivity around the 3 month mark, I am usually met with a "lets see where things go" or "I can't do that right now" which, from my experience, is a nice way of saying "I want FWB with you and 5 other women secretly"
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 12:51 AM
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Exactly. I do entice men to pursue. I used to be a model and now work a high paid feminine career. I work out everyday and follow a keto diet. I have an awesome wardrobe I built over years that really flatters my figure in classy 1950s style. And lots of hobbies and interests, as well as friends.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 12:49 AM
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have it. There is nothing wrong with having a personal space on the internet, but if you are using it to validate Ummm what? Yes, I did mention I've had this problem a long time. I am most definitely not unstable. How am I unstable with a 6 figure career and date offers left and right? Lol
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 12:48 AM
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I mean, I knew all that. The problem is that they never once acted like an orbiter until I asked for a relationship months down the line and had to cut them off because they shockingly said no. I just don't want to see their stupid usernames and faces popping up all over my feed (liking comments, viewing my stuff) to re-remind me of how awful of people they were. Like I said, even if I blocked them (which is A LOT of guys to block), they still come right back on another social media or text from…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 12:47 AM
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if you're not interested in me then why do you keep trying to initiate these pointless interactions? Exactly. It actually hurts because I was deceived by them, led on thinking they wanted a relationship. Many of them DO try to hang out again, and every time I've given in, its just them doing the same thing again where they try to put me in a non-consensual FWB situation
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 12:44 AM
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I'm not going on any dates. You should re-read my post. These are men from last year and the previous 15 years of my life lol
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 12:43 AM
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I don't add them, but they find mine and follow/add it. I'm not that hard to find and we usually have at least distant mutual friends in common who also follow me. No, they aren't ready for a relationship when they come back. At least most of them aren't. Because every time I've given them a second or third chance, every guy, they also do the same thing where they try to turn it into a non-consensual FWB even though I am very clear I want a relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 12:42 AM
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No, I mean they view EVERY one of my snapchats. All of them. Even if I post 10 in a row. And some of them have the notification thing on for when I post (instagram snapchat) because they're always the first ones to view it within the first 5 minutes of posting. The three months prior to commitment, we are going on dates, getting to know each other, spending time together. We have usually started hooking up around 6-8 weeks, sometimes longer than that. They told me upfront they wanted a LTR, and …
/r/RedPillWomen13/05/17 10:20 PM
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I really felt like I was being vetted by him, that he saw me as a potential partner and wanted to know about this and that to see if I were a good match. This is my problem too. I meet all these guys (that approach me OR I approach first) that SEEM like we are vetting each other, telling me they want a relationship etc, only to have my time wasted for months in the end. Men these days have caught on that all they need to do is ACT LIKE and SAY they want a relationship, but never actually commit …
/r/RedPillWomen13/05/17 10:00 PM
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You simply need to 'vet' more men until you get a nice blend of both traits: what you're looking for in the 'body reaction' department and what you're looking for in the 'values, confidence, family' department.' It's a tough truth but if you break down and start settling for one or the other and start increasing your partner count you will waste time and lower your chances at finding the blend you deserve. But how can you guarantee the guys you vet will actually want a relationship with you? Lik…
/r/RedPillWomen13/05/17 09:55 PM
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Thx! I really want to try more unique things. I'm going to start horseback riding lessons soon and wish I could think of new creative things to do
/r/RedPillWomen13/05/17 09:12 PM
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Honestly, every man has a fetish whether he tells you it or not. Whether is anal or feet or something weird, they all do. So that makes every man a pervert lol. Why does it matter if you can catch STDs from anal if its your HUSBAND or if you're using a condom if its not your husband? That makes no sense. STDs are irrelevant. Sorry but this is hilarious because anal is pretty common I'm sure. To be "utterly disgusted" about things that are natural to your body is very strange, especially since va…
/r/RedPillWomen13/05/17 05:08 AM
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Okay well unfortunately a lot of guys like it and actually prefer it, so you're either going to do it a lot if your guy likes it, or you going to get cheated on (whether you know it or not) or left. And if you're okay with that, that's fine. I am a girl by the way.
/r/RedPillWomen13/05/17 12:20 AM
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No, a lot of men are into that if they're into butts/hips honestly. That would be the same as saying "he wants to suck on your tits like a baby? thats creepy!" Its biology.
/r/RedPillWomen12/05/17 09:24 PM
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I think men and women CAN be friends, but they both have to either not be attracted to each other or have a better woman/man at home (more attractive, more fit, more successes, better career, more interesting, better personality). Or else you're screwed and they will probably cheat whether you find out about it or not.
/r/RedPillWomen12/05/17 09:22 PM
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Yes it is, but it is also your personality inclination as well. Like an addict who is exposed to drugs. If you don't have an addictive personality and are exposed to drugs, you probably won't be an addict. It works like that. That doesn't mean you can't become more outgoing though. But that is only if you have that kind of personality and want to become that kind of person. If you don't like being outgoing and its not "you" then no you won't be outgoing. But at the same time, with a shy personal…
/r/RedPillWomen12/05/17 09:17 PM
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No because I'd be confused as to the reasons why he wanted me to change when he met and got engaged to me the way I already was lol. But I'm also not very religious, so maybe my reasonings would be different if I was religious. But I see it as controlling, and if he gets away with that, what else will be want to control next? Who I talk to?
/r/RedPillWomen12/05/17 09:16 PM
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I think the only reason those 2 even admitted they had surgery was because they tried to reverse the aging process a little too much so it looked unnatural, and surgical-like. The only ones who admit their surgeries are ones who do it for attention (Heidi Montag) to sell things (usually reality stars), and those who had botched or bad surgery which is very very uncommon unless you get too much. Good plastic surgery, think Christie Brinkley or Angelina. Even Kim K has had a million procedures don…
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/17 11:05 PM
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No I was definitely though of before as a plain jane who seemed boring and that's why I was ignored. Now I am seen as a sex object since I wear makeup and show off my shape with 1950s clothing, so that's why I get approached this much.
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/17 11:03 PM
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No I am definitely more warm and open now as a 9 just because I'm older than when I was a 7 (even though I look younger than when I was a 7). I was extremely shy back then, and still mildly shy.
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/17 08:34 PM
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Well that's how they get better and more roles. After their breakout role, they have a really high standard to keep up and if they want to top it, they need surgery. Lots of very minor tweaks add up.
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/17 08:33 PM
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I live in LA also, and this is my experience as a woman. I can get dates non-stop but I can't get a relationship. Its the area, LA is brutal
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/17 08:33 PM
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I mostly only read non-fiction but I've read dozens and dozens of titles at this point that I forget which info comes from which book honestly lol. They're all kind of good because there's at least a few things you can pick up from each book
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/17 08:32 PM
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Yeah the only female friends I can keep are really beautiful high achievers now lol. I will be friends with anyone, honestly, as long as they aren't an overly negative person. But women end friendships with me or act passive aggressive all the time unless they're the same level of attractiveness and career success honestly lol. Or really secure with themselves.
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/17 08:31 PM
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Yeah it sucks because you kind of have to keep up with the culture around you. I find that big cities are worth it due to the opportunities it presents for me, but having to keep up with everyone is kind of exhausting. I'm not a "keeping up with the jones'" type of person, but you DO have to stay on top of your fitness, nutrition, and nips/tucks as you age or else you're left behind because everyone else IS keeping up, even if on the down low.
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/17 09:01 AM
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Actresses have to change their face though because of how cameras work. Like you could have a completely normal nose in real life but the camera is going to show it more bulby and less defined unless you're one of the .01% that naturally has symmetrical definition. Megan Fox had to do a lot of work to her face for this reason and I do think she was prettier before, but it kind of HAS to be done if you want to make it in Hollywood due to what the cameras pick up. Even Angelina Jolie got a nosejob…
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/17 08:59 AM
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I don't really think that's true because I've been the 7 and now I'm the 9. Men are just as nice, but often were neutral about me when I was a 7 in all honesty.
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/17 08:57 AM
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No, no one talked me out of it because I live in liberal California. The only people who really reacted negatively were girls that had already had it done and tried to make it sound like it was the worst experience ever and soooo painful, and it wasn't painful at all to me LOL. I feel like they tried to convince me not to do it because they didn't want me to become hotter. So like a jealousy thing.
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/17 08:55 AM
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Lol my surgeries were subtle, and I also changed my wardrobe and hair at the same time. But because I looked so polished and pretty, insecure women began to HATE me and become extremely passive aggressive. Secure women were even nicer to me. Men became even nicer to me as well. Men will treat beautiful women the best. Women will treat you depending on how they feel about themselves. If they're beautiful and talented, they enjoy company of other people who are beautiful and talented and go out of…
/r/RedPillWomen10/05/17 07:03 PM
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Yep! I've had surgery too and I don't regret it. Good plastic surgery is indistinguishable from natural beauty lol. Worth the investment!
/r/RedPillWomen10/05/17 07:01 PM
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I think surgery should be rare, This is exactly why a lot of women, especially celebrities and those who have money, get TONS of plastic surgery (just minimal changes so its hard to pinpoint) and never tell anyone. Rare is kind of pointless if everyone in your area is getting it non-stop and keeping it a secret, yet still reaping the benefits. This isn't true in most areas, but true in mine (LA)
/r/RedPillWomen10/05/17 06:58 PM
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For social skills or psych? What I did was I went on Amazon and typed in a key word "emotional intelligence" or "social skills" or "body language" in the books section, and then I'd write down the ones that had the highest reviews with feedback comments that made it sound like the book would be of use to me. Then I requested those online in bulk to check out for free from my local library. No real effort on my part except for picking them up. I also purchased some of them on kindle, but mostly i…
/r/RedPillWomen10/05/17 06:52 PM
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1950s, but not everyone has the body type for it. Start with your body type because you can't cheat your body type out of looking flattering. Its either flattering on you or its not. Second, choose colors that flatter your hair color and skin time. Primarily wear 2-3 of those colors with 1-2 accent colors if you want. To choose that, choose warm or cool, dark neutrals or light neutrals. Choose the cuts that are flattering on you when you see them for sale in the future. You know to buy them in t…
/r/RedPillWomen10/05/17 05:12 AM
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I can be happy in any situation because I've been in many where I wasn't happy due to an extremely negative circumstance (examples: death, etc). So yes. I am actually pretty happy with my life no matter what because everything I want is in place except for a relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen10/05/17 05:12 AM
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I did until I realize most men these days that aren't useless at life have way too many options and know it. So they don't have a real incentive to get into a relationship until much, much older. In big cities.
/r/RedPillWomen10/05/17 05:09 AM
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I'm working primarily on one at a time, and when I feel overwhelmed I work on the basics of a second one
/r/RedPillWomen10/05/17 05:07 AM
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So did you lol that's my field. There's not. There are dumb articles, bu those articles don't account for things like family income (single white mothers still make more than dual black families), race, personality types, family size, etc. The fact of the matter is, it is IMPOSSIBLE to prevent a divorce. If a man one day decides to leave, nothing will stop him. And even then if he stays, a lot of them buy escorts compulsively behind the wife's back. These are things you can't control or account …
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/17 09:27 PM
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I'd rather not wear them but my hair is thin and my body is curvy so it adds to the proportion. Surgical things were things that I never loved, so I thought about it forever. Then researched to find the perfect doctors which took years for me to do but I'm kind of a perfectionist in that way. Recovery varies based on what you get done.
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/17 08:03 PM
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There's substantial data suggesting that single motherhood (and single fatherhood) may cause behavioural, emotional, developmental issues in children. That's definitely not true lol. I know people raised by lesbians, gay couples, single, dual parented and there is zero correlation. Where's the peer reviewed studies proving this? Just so you know, many (probably half or more) of married men are cheating with escorts and sugarbabies behind their wife's back lol. So if you want a fake marriage just…
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/17 07:35 PM
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Details about what I did? Or what specifically? 1.) I went on bodybuilding.com forum and found resources for lifting plans. I joined a gym and had a female friend show me how to use all of the equipment properly in order to get good form. 2.) I tried several diets (mostly on reddit subforums) such as vegan, low carb, keto, raw, raw til 4, high carb low calorie, and I found which one works for me after trying them all. 3.) I stick to the diet that works the best and learned to mealprep my meals f…
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/17 07:35 PM
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There's substantial data suggesting that single motherhood (and single fatherhood) may cause behavioural, emotional, developmental issues in children. That's definitely not true lol. I know people raised by lesbians, gay couples, single, dual parented and there is zero correlation. Where's the peer reviewed studies proving this? Just so you know, many (probably half or more) of married men are cheating with escorts and sugarbabies behind their wife's back lol. So if you want a fake marriage just…
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/17 07:28 PM
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I know mothers in two parent households like this. Don't blame her marital status for her selfish parenting. Exactly. I laughed because this has NOTHING to do with being a single parent. Confirmation bias, anyone? Also, the teacher doesn't KNOW the student. The student could be a total brat at home and the teacher would never know.
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/17 07:26 PM
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Ummm this has nothing to do with being a single parent LOL. You just mentioned that the mother has a boyfriend. They could get a piece of paper that says they're married, and she wouldn't be a single mom anymore because of that piece of paper. You're complaining that the mother is spending time with her significant other and neglecting the child. Last I checked, that doesn't sound very "single" to me. I've seen plenty of married households (even if it is with the biological dad!) that sound exac…
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/17 07:24 PM
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Being that this is the age of the internet, you can research how to fix anything. If it needs surgery and it bothers you, fix it. If there are lots of things that need surgery that bother you, its likely a mental issue. I've fixed everything that bothered me and now am ultra confident. There are meal plans, lifting programs, hair tutorials, etc all over the internet. The rest of it is just being dedicated and wanting it enough.
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/17 07:19 PM
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I love traveling. It adds to your interesting person factor when it comes to locking down a man. In competitive areas (big cities) being beautiful is not enough and you need to bring a lot of interesting things to the table. The trophy wife extends far beyond looks because men can also show off her accomplishments and things she has done.
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/17 03:35 AM
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I've had to cut off women who were extremes on both sides, mostly because they are too delusional or bitter at either extreme. The first being those who are very "I don't need a man!!" types and that's only because most of them actually do end up in a relationship from what I've seen, and only say it out of being defensive about being single and wanting to play it off like they don't care. They tend not to be happy for other women who are in relationships when they are not/have not been in one t…
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/17 03:30 AM
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I agree. There's no such thing as RPW style because everyone's body type and skin/hair color is different. I think its more showing off your best attributes.
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/17 03:12 AM
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Showing skin doesn't really matter honestly unless you're wearing only lingerie out or something. Because a curvy hourglass woman will be sexualized no matter what because of her tiny waist and curves, versus a tall lanky woman. The curvy woman could be more covered but she's still deemed as very sexual. I have this problem.
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/17 03:09 AM
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Honestly though, a lot of the time if you're really pretty or out of the ordinary you get those followers organically.
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/17 02:57 AM
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I'm actually curious about this because I'm also shaped like that at 120 lbs, and I've had a lot of women call me an attention whore or a slut even though I have adopted an elegant classic 1950s style. Its because of my shape, and I've had these experiences since I was 12 when I first developed this shape. I've come to realize that everyone thinks an hourglass shape is "too sexual" and if you don't wear fitting clothing you look fat and sloppy due to the shape of the body, and if you DO wear fit…
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/17 02:51 AM
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I am a 34F hourglass shape and men approach me non-stop. The problem is that they pretend to want a relationship and put time and effort into dating so I THINK they want a relationship, but they just only find me sexually attractive. It sucks, but I had this problem even when I was a C cup when I was younger.
/r/RedPillWomen08/05/17 08:51 PM
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Models are all photoshopped. I can tell you this because I used to model. Its all bright lights, high quality cameras, cleverly posed flattering angles, photoshop, hair extensions, caked on makeup, and flattering outfits. This still doesn't stop men from wanting them, trust me. But what people don't realize is that these men are seeking a bragging right ("i'm dating a MODEL!!! Look!!!") and it doesn't really matter that she's perfect in real life (because she's not). That's why I say having a ca…
/r/RedPillWomen08/05/17 08:49 PM
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I am actually repulsed by men that old. Like the crepe skin and the hair loss to me is a major turnoff. I can't imagine that I'm the only one who feels this way
/r/RedPillWomen08/05/17 08:45 PM
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I agree with this. Only wealthy old men who want a sugarbaby type of arrangement will go for a 20 year old. The 20 year old will only give in for the cash, and will settle down in a real relationship in 15 years after she has drained him. That's how it works. Most men end up with women within 10 years of their age, and sometimes with women a little older than themselves if she looks younger than her age which is common now with things like botox and a good skin care routine.
/r/RedPillWomen08/05/17 08:44 PM
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Women can easily lie about their age if they look younger, which many do
/r/RedPillWomen08/05/17 08:42 PM
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Tonssss. That's all I've ever experienced and I used to model, now have a feminine high pay job, and am in the best shape of my life. It really sucks. This is common in big cities.
/r/RedPillWomen08/05/17 08:40 PM
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Anyone here enjoy having man falsely dangle commitment he will never give to get a woman into bed? Yes that's 95% of men in large cities and liberal areas. They will go on endless dates with you, tell you they want a relationship, give you pet names, spend time and money on you, only for them to tell you 3, 6, 9 months down the road that they don't actually want a relationship with you. This is how men get free sex these days in liberal areas with high quality women.
/r/RedPillWomen08/05/17 08:40 PM
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LOL that isn't enough. That's like 1/3 of the women in the world. You need to look youthful, be fit with your ideal body (implants help too), have a great face, long hair that is styled, personal style that is very flattering, a career or strong sense of life purpose, and a great personality/disposition.
/r/RedPillWomen08/05/17 08:37 PM
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It completely depends on the area you live in (what is seen as ideal) as well as what the types of men you're attracted to will find attractive. You could be a 6 to someone and a 10 to someone else. That being said, I don't think there is actually a scale. I think its more a pass/fail and this person is/isnt my type. Personality is also a HUGE factor, especially after you're fit with long hair and flattering clothing.
/r/RedPillWomen08/05/17 06:42 PM
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Sure :) since you couldn't google: http://devepi.duhs.duke.edu/library/pdf/16313.pdf https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3693622/ https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/under-the-influence/201209/testosterone-and-dominance https://www.dangerandplay.com/2014/07/30/science-shows-dominant-behavior-posture-increase-testosterone/ (see references at the bottom for more) Thousands more with a google search and a basic biology course :)
/r/RedPillWomen08/05/17 01:01 AM
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Well unless you're dating in the Tinder/AshleyMadison era in liberal large cities, that advice isn't relevant to today's world because what I just explained is today's world.
/r/RedPillWomen08/05/17 12:59 AM
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Not if they don't want it to be a failure. Plenty of women leave men for another man. And considering we are constantly introduced to new people we haven't met before, even post-ideal childbearing ages, so its okay to divorce a man for a different one. This type of life wasn't the case before the 1980s when it became expected that you'd move for a job, and because traveling costs were not longer just for the wealthy. Also, the addition of the public internet in the 1990s allowed everyone to find…
/r/RedPillWomen08/05/17 12:58 AM
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That isn't black or white though. Most fall into a grey area or would flipflop between the two depending on who they are interacting with.
/r/RedPillWomen06/05/17 06:48 PM
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Yes, you can only control your own actions. You can't control the actions of others, especially if they lie to you. People can still manipulate you against your will or without your knowledge. My hair is down to my butt, I am an hourglass shape, I have previous modeled, and now an focused on being a nurse practitioner with a 6 figure income working 3 days a week (12h shifts) so I have time for other things :). I am extremely feminine but also successful in several ways, which is much needed in b…
/r/RedPillWomen06/05/17 06:46 PM
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Because testosterone is the driving factor that makes men dominant. That is biology. More testosterone = more dominance (as well as physical facial and body cues of this), and that is what an alpha is. That is basic biology lol you can google it
/r/RedPillWomen06/05/17 06:45 PM
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Duolingo actually has all those too now
/r/RedPillWomen06/05/17 06:44 PM
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I never said they don't, its just very unlikely. Social interactions really have nothing to do with it. Maybe in a small town lol, but not in a big city or liberal area. Everyone knows how to make small talk in big cities.
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/17 10:55 PM
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Because a RPW is not the same as the red pill, and a lot of people come here just for general red pill stuff. But honestly, a RPM is often a huge player because he's alpha. Go look at the other red pill subreddits and you'll see its mostly pickup artist advice lol. I am a modern RPW. I personally subscribe to gender roles, but I'm also realistic and account for the times we live in. Life isn't a Disney movie. I am traditionally feminine (my own choosing, but don't care what others do) with long …
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/17 10:54 PM
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Yes. An alpha male is someone who has high levels of testosterone, making him seem traditionally "masculine" and therefore usually aggressive, dominant, competitive, tall, rugged, with a tendency to be athletic (but may not act on it). And guess what? Those men are often players. So women have learned this, and don't go for men quite as dominant if they want a LTR because they know the dominant ones have too many options even if she is fit, gorgeous, has a career, is interesting, and has the swe…
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/17 10:49 PM
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/r/RedPillWomen05/05/17 10:46 PM
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Neglecting kids and ignoring bad behavior does not correlate with the things you wrote, that's why. I mean, it CAN happen, but doesn't for even majority. That's stereotyping, like those who are racist. Lots of women have family members take care of their children. Lots of women plan to be SAHMs and then their husband dies unexpectedly and they can't be. Lots of women feel energized by going to work and being away from their children because being around them 24/7 can cause them to lose their sen…
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/17 06:13 AM
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Well no because those who post are looking for advice, but random people doing what makes them happy are not lol
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/17 06:11 AM
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Okay well guess what? EVERY generation of kids are seen as "BAD!" by the previous generations at the time! In the 1950s and 1960s kids who liked Rock N Roll like The Beatles were seen as demon children, and now no one cares because they look back and see how silly of a thought it was. You can either get with the times and get ahead (since the times are not going to change for your own liking) or stay behind wishing for something that isn't reflective of the current collective state of the world.…
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/17 03:00 AM
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Okay well you don't have any say over what other women choose to do with their lives, so its a waste of energy to care lol. Also you can always work part time or 3 twelve hour shifts like in health care. Or work freelance or even entrepreneurial endeavors. There's a lot of flexibility.
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/17 02:58 AM
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No one said anything about arrogance. You can be a sweet, feminine stay a home mom and still be arrogant. Angelina initiated all the divorces with those men, they didn't divorce her. And there are hundreds of thousands who would marry her in a heartbeat. For like 10 years, she was always every celebrity's female crush, so its not even just an income thing. Same with Katie Price, she's the European Angelina.
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/17 02:57 AM
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No they're not inexperienced, they're players who often masquerade as nice guys. Sure, there are plenty of women looking for ONS and all that in big cities, but that doesn't mean he wants those women as the most beautiful women who want ONS are usually high class escorts who charge a pretty penny just because they can. Well you can not take it seriously all you want, but I am living proof that it happens a lot (as well as my female friends).
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/17 02:54 AM
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Yeah I've seen women go crazy over having to be the thinnest person in the room, and others go crazy over having to have the biggest boobs or butt. It gets triggered by men they really liked and his preferences. But every man has different ones.
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 10:02 PM
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Yeah even if I wanted to be a SAHM (which I don't), I could NEVER put my trust in another person to be the breadwinner for fear that he would leave me. You'd lose your quality of life, your sense of trust, and general happiness. I saw this happen to my mother and to all of her friends when they were left out of no where and then had to get waitress jobs and live in a tiny apartment with all the rooms rented out. They were miserable. And I saw this happen to almost every single of my friend's mom…
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 09:59 PM
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Well they aren't your children so I guess I don't really understand why you're concerned with other people's lives. Children have always been spoiled and sheltered. Currently, children SEEM spoiled because technology makes their lives easier and convenient, but the offset of that we now have more expectations and more competition so success is harder to get (good jobs harder to come by, etc). Trying to change something that is bigger than you (current culture) where everyone is given free will w…
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 09:53 PM
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Umm no, ever heard of postpartum depression? That is a major hallmark. That's just one example
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 09:50 PM
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In big cities, where I have always lived, it pretty much does not exist at all
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 09:49 PM
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Same. I think everyone should try to be fit, but not everyone has the same natural body shape lol. You can look good with every body shape while healthy. You just have to dress for it. I think a lot of eating disorders get triggered because a man preferred underweight lanky women and that woman did not naturally have that shape. But thats like a man saying he prefers brunettes and you're a blonde who wants to stay that color. Different men have different preferences.
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 10:32 AM
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Agreed, have these all covered IMO. No partner at the current moment though.
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 09:38 AM
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You have to join hobby groups and activities, or it won't happen unless you family sets you up.
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 09:36 AM
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Why do people seem to think that the one and only thing a woman can do in life is have children? You can have a fulfilling a career, pursue a hobby, travel, read, etc. etc. and still have children. You might not be able to do all of those things at the exact same time, but you can still do them. I also don't understand why everything needs a purely practical purpose. Can't a woman work at a job because she enjoys it? I agree with this. I've seen some women that can only be SAHMs and some women t…
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 09:33 AM
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Exactly, there are things to do aside from "work" as well. Entrepreneurial things fit into this category. Or volunteer type of work.
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 09:30 AM
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And opting for marriage and motherhood when it's not your mission can be disastrous Yep, I've seen women become suicidal over this. Many women, especially in previous generations, HATED being stay at home moms. My own mother was one of those. She was MISERABLE. Its not for everyone. Not everyone wants to JUST be a wife or mother. Many people, especially those who are constantly thinking, really want to have a career as well. You should just do whats best for YOU. Its really weird to read article…
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 09:29 AM
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A lot of men love thin women. A lot of men don't. Unless its your own ideal, there's no use in trying to become someone else's. I feel like a big problem is a self-esteem issue and a general disliking of self TBH. I'm 125ish lbs and hourglass but have still been told I'm "too big" by men who like sticks. But that isn't my own body ideal or the type of man I'm trying to attract. Just focus on your own ideals.
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 09:26 AM
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You can pick your career though. Anyone can be a nurse and make a good salary by doing feminine things all day. If a woman chooses something else, that's pretty much her choice. Its not like she was never given the option to choose something feminine lol. I don't see why any woman would care what another woman is doing TBH. If you don't want a career, don't get a career. If you don't want a masculine career, get a feminine career. There's no rule book out there saying what you can and can't do. …
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 09:24 AM
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That doesn't mean you're a cunt. No one said anything about a cunt. Masculine qualities do not equal being a cunt lol. I was talking about how women can still be domineering (think Katie Price's outspokenness), manipulative (think Angelina Jolie's track record of poaching away married men), or masculine (think Amal Clooney's high profile law career) and still go VERY far in life if you're beautiful with other feminine qualities. I am using celebrities as examples because these are people we all …
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 09:10 AM
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Well this does happen in big cities because you can't see what a man is doing 24/7 and he can easily have a cover and pretend to be dating only you. This actually happens quite a lot. Its not any man that pays her attention, its men who act like they are looking for a serious relationship by putting in the time in order to get a string of plates. This happens allllll the time in big cities. You are NOT willingly giving up control when you are being misled lol
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 09:08 AM
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Clothing that flatters your body and is high quality, a sense of purpose or direction (which may come later), a career or being a student (you can always quit later if you want), long hair IMO or at least perfectly styled, learn how to do flattering makeup via youtube, not being in bad moods very often.
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 02:20 AM
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A career that pays very well but is still either in a female-dominated area or isn't considered masculine or aggressive. If you google that exact phrase, tons of lists come up on the first page of google alone. Examples of high paid feminine careers would be anything in medicine or science, because you are essentially a caregiver. Physical therapist, nurse, nurse practitioner, optometrist, and lots of other jobs in medicine or science (food scientist for example) are all things that come to mind…
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 12:17 AM
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I did mention sewing actually, and femininity I include demeanor, cooking, neatness, etc. :)
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 09:47 PM
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It made me realize that you CANNOT be a woman in a big city or liberal area and expect to get by on your femininity and looks alone considering there's so much competition, because those things fade and you're easily replaceable. My mother didn't have a career and was left in her 30s. It made me realize that a high paying feminine career is essential, as well as really interesting hobbies that go beyond baking and being talkative, such as being an accomplished artist on the side and doing really…
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 09:27 PM
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IMO those are mostly things a teen would be into, and in areas where women are accomplished (e.x. Los Angeles for example), having only those hobbies would be a dealbreaker. Think Amal Clooney. That is what men want in liberal areas. They want beautiful, fit, classy, accomplished, with hobbies that go beyond teenaged stuff. IMO.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 09:26 PM
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This will turn you into a plate though if you are in a big city or liberal area. You can't be THAT beta as a female unless you are okay with being walked all over as a plate. Men will lie to you and mislead you to get what they want, without your consent.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 09:24 PM
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Alpha girls as described in your article: domineering, manipulative, and masculine, do not usually perform well in the relationship marketplace over the long run. That isn't true though. If you are domineering beauty drop dead beautiful with the perfect body and a feminine face, you are going to get very very far in life. It just depends. I feel like most people only look at this as black (masculine) or white (feminine) without realizing that 95% of people fall into a grey area lol, as do men.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 09:23 PM
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This is controversial, and varies from person to person. Like some people say an alpha woman is a career woman, but in big cities unless you're independently wealthy both parties often need to work in order to survive. I constantly end up battling people on the work factor, because there are still high paid feminine careers out there if you really look. If the woman is pretty, feminine, and not outspoken, I fail to see how a career makes her into an alpha female. It doesn't. I would say an alpha…
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 09:22 PM
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I don't think looks are all that important, or at least all that specific. I think compatibility and shared interests as well as loyalty are what really matters. Looks are going to fade.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 09:08 PM
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Considering there's not much middle class anymore, I'd consider anything significantly more than poverty line as affluent. Jerry Springer is fake.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 07:42 PM
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I mean, that sounds very RPW. I don't really like men a lot older than me, but I don't really think there is ever too big of an age gap if it works. I will say this though. Unfortunately, in your later years you're probably going to be taking care of him. One of my good friend's mother remarried a man 17 years older than her and she pretty much had to spend her 50s taking care of his health problems while he was in and out of the hospital, which really stressed her out and annoyed her. She would…
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 05:32 AM
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Kind of. Like you can completely redo the wardrobe of a beta to be attractive, but its hard to teach someone completely new mannerisms and social cues after like college age. He would also have to WANT to have a completely different personality and be more aggressive (testosterone=alpha), and I wouldn't really trust a beta who actually WANTED to do that because I would be concerned he had ulterior motives or wanted to become a player.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 05:29 AM
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I agree with this. A beta male with a good job is ideal because you can bond over common interests and its a great match! An alpha is almost always a player just because he can be. If he has a good job, he's definitely not going to settle til he's like 49, and then will get sugarbabies just because he is accustomed to young, pretty women.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 05:27 AM
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Men don't really have options in non-affluent communities and it is socially accepted to have children at like 19, versus like 39 in affluent areas. So even alpha men don't really have options because everyone pairs off at a young age, so you have to move away if you don't want to be apart of that life. The football player marries the cheerleader at like age 19 when she's pregnant lol.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 05:26 AM
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Yep its a sugar baby lifestyle for those women. Its rampant in wealthy and liberal areas, especially big cities. There's no way to really avoid it unless you date wayyyyyy down as a woman, or marry someone wayyyyyy older. Both of which end up with taking a lot of crap from people. I've lived in 3 major areas and I've seen this non-stop.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 05:24 AM
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We women need to shift. Something needs to give. The longing for an alpha male is evident all across our western culture society, but there aren't enough to go around. In my opinion, women are NOT the problem. The problem is with beta males who assume they're alpha males and then lead women on and treat them horribly. Women fall for it because they think "hey this guy isn't super attractive, his job is mediocre or even good, and he seems genuinely sweet" but the problem is, that guy thinks of hi…
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 05:22 AM
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No one is pure alpha or beta, they are traits describing personality attributes with respect to social status in relationships. I also think people have different definitions and alpha and beta as well. Like a lot of women come in here like "HEY how do I find my alpha!!!" when they really mean "HEY how do I find my beta male with a good job???" Big difference.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 05:19 AM
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In my mind, alpha males are the ones that don't really settle down. Betas are ideal because they're less likely to cheat and more likely to have a good job. If you bond over common interests, I fail to see how you'd have a bad relationship with a beta?
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 05:18 AM
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Less attractive women may end up alone if they don't lock someone down when they're younger, but you CAN always become more attractive! Women CAN get a high paying job (even a feminine one like a nurse!) and then get plastic surgery, but even that is drastic. To improve yourself, all you need to do is workout (lift), eat well (paleo or vegan), develop a sense of style and aesthetic, curate a flattering wardrobe that sends good messages, become more feminine, get a bunch of interesting hobbies. I…
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 05:17 AM
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But why are you shy? Is it because you can't tell who likes you and what they're thinking, or because you have low self-esteem? It has to be one or the other. If #1, you are likely autistic. If #2, do things to improve your looks (especially physically) like working out, nutrition, curated wardrobe, an aesthetic, specialized interests.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 01:52 AM
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You could be autistic. You can read books on social skills, but if that still doesn't help and you see things as logical only or feel like an alien trying life on planet earth, you are likely autistic. That's kind of my problem too, and I sound like you. Hot, workout, eat well, a great feminine job with great pay, great wardrobe, polyglot, lots of hobbies and interests, love to read and learn new things.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 01:50 AM
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In general, men who are trustworthy mostly comes down to luck. You ideally want to be with a man who was bullied or was shy growing up because he is typically appreciative. However, some of these guys turn into monsters as adults when they improve and it goes to their head, and some guys also come off shy but really are evil or have some sort of mental issue secretly, so people aren't always as they seem. It really just comes down to time and luck. What you should focus on is becoming extremely …
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 01:46 AM
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Mine is to use duolingo daily so that I can accomplish my goal of being fluent in 5 languages lol
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 01:44 AM
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Mixed signals = he's just not that into you. Even if he gets into you, he will definitely stray. He has shown his character.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 01:36 AM
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Honestly, I wouldn't date someone at work unless you're already preparing for a new job. That is not a good situation to be in. A high value man is a beta male with a good job. Alpha males with good jobs who are also attractive will almost certainly cheat on their girlfriends/wives just because they still get women so easily.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 01:35 AM
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That is all so true. A high quality woman's match is not an alpha male. Its a beta male with a good job. Unless you're only looking for hookups or are willing to look for something serious with a man twice your age who is alpha.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 01:31 AM
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Exactly. Alpha males typically go for model types or those who have fame or something "more" than they have. And even then, its still most likely for a hookup or to waste your time with lies about how he wants a relationship but then ultimately doesn't actually want that after he gets sex.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 01:30 AM
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Alpha males typically don't like to commit. Alpha males typically don't need to push themselves to get a good job because women are throwing themselves at him. They are not what you're looking for, unless you only want a hookup or an "alpha male" twice your age. So a successful alpha male who is also interesting typically has far too many options to commit and will only commit to women who are drop dead beautiful, successful, and seen as more of a prize than he is, in all honesty. And that's if …
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 01:29 AM
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That means all he cares about is sex, and that should instantly turn you off. Walk away.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 01:19 AM
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I don't think that's it. I think that most men who are rejected end up going for an average woman, and average women are the ones who get the most offers for commitment because they aren't seen as a challenge, thus are not intimidating. So men who are continually rejected need to go for a very beautiful woman, or a woman that is not very attractive. Because those women are the ones who aren't getting offers left and right for commitment, only hookups if that.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 01:16 AM
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Guys who can't get a girl need to aim for a very hot girl in my opinion. Because very hot women are often overlooked because everyone thinks she is taken. They can also aim for someone not attractive because she is often overlooked for a relationship just like the very hot girl. Most men are going for average women because they aren't intimidating and don't have a "princess" stereotype attached to them just because they're pretty. That gives average women lots of options for relationships. And, …
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 01:14 AM
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Anything that is set in a previous era. The reason why shows that exist in modern times are female-dominated is because, unless you're independently wealthy (and those men have no reason to commit), it typically takes a 2 income household to live comfortably in big cities where shows are typically set. So its a reflection of the times.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 01:12 AM
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Yeah I definitely don't want to make anymore physical changes because I'm very happy and secure with things currently. I feel like that my current look is well suited for my life and personality, as well as the type of people I like to attract (in terms of interests, lifestyle, etc) but I have done a lot of experimenting in the past. Yeah I try to be friends with everyone, which also seems to weird people out too. I like friends who are very similar to me as well as ones who are very different. …
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/17 10:19 PM
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Especially since what is beautiful changes depending on the era, but people only focus on now. Its just SO weird to me that people think that way! Lol. I also HATE making people think and have had people tell me to stop bringing up things to make them think before. Yes I likely have Aspergers. It is really hard because no one expects a conventionally attractive person to be autistic. Its like they don't believe it (it has backfired when I have told people that because they don't believe it or it…
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/17 10:15 PM
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I never said being ugly or booky was some magic key to developing a great personality, but I'm saying FOR ME that is what happened. Not specifically everyone else, but for ME this is true. I know this to be the case because a.) I have lots of interests and hobbies (many of which I developed while young), b.) people have commented about it, and c.) I don't have a lot of negative traits aside from shyness and awkwardness. I'm not insecure, I'm not bitter, and I'm always bubbly or happy even if shy…
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/17 10:04 PM
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Back then, I did have "boyfriends" who appreciated my personality but I don't consider them to be relationships because we didn't have sex. Now, I have those too but I refer to them as friendships. So that's why I didn't include those. I am used to the stares and sexual attention now, but it kind of makes me insecure because I never know why guys are approaching me or wanting to "date" me because it hasn't led to a real relationship yet. So I kind of cringe. I wouldn't consider myself insecure b…
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/17 06:56 PM
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Yeah its weird. A lot of people do take things as insults that aren't meant to be. I am extremely book smart because I grew up plain and kind of ugly so I was overlooked and spent my life with my head in books and personal interests instead. Now, people get SO offended when someone attractive (which is me now) points out an obvious truth. Its like they refuse to accept it. They also seem to refuse to accept that you can be really pretty and feminine as well as really book smart and honest. Its l…
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/17 05:07 PM
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I have received NUMEROUS helpful comments and especially PMs. I'm SO glad I made this post. If you don't want to read the comments that weren't useful to me then they don't have to be read. But if you take the time, you will see that some were useful and I replied accordingly. No one HAS to comment on this. Its women who have been through the same thing (which I admit, isn't common) who have given me the most helpful replies. Its uncommon for a woman to grow up overlooked and then become suddenl…
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/17 04:55 PM
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Yes. I am bluntly honest. I am very logical. That's just how I am.
/r/RedPillWomen11/04/17 11:25 PM
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I feel like I get screwed over from the two times I mess up with someone. Its like they are suspicious as to why someone attractive isn't the best socializer
/r/RedPillWomen11/04/17 06:43 PM
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You care and apparently know way too much about someone you've never met before lol
/r/RedPillWomen11/04/17 06:42 PM
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That makes no sense at all lol. I know a girl who has been with dozens of guys but she gives off the cute and innocent vibe, and then I know a girl who is 30 and a virgin but gives off the sexual vibe because she has naturally big boobs and very full lips.
/r/RedPillWomen11/04/17 04:07 PM
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I mean I am good in general, but there's always a point or two that I mess up at and that is what ends it.
/r/RedPillWomen11/04/17 04:07 PM
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No one can know your n count if you don't tell them.
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/17 07:06 PM
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Unfortunately, you are not unique, your story is not special, unusual or shocking. There are a great many people just like yourself. As you observe, the internet has played a great role in that in modern times. This.
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/17 07:05 PM
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NEVER talk about your childhood then (I'm in the same boat, its not unique) and only talk about your fun current life. You are an adult now so you can create a new, fun, exciting life with cool interests. That alone is enough. The past is the past and if it wasn't great then there's no point in remembering or talking about it.
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/17 07:05 PM
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My job is already really social :-/ and I am apart of a bunch of hobby groups. I get along well with people when I know they like me
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/17 01:24 PM
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I am extremely shy and lowkey so I listen a lot already
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/17 12:46 AM
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I definitely do in all categories, I'm just awkward
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/17 12:46 AM
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I do all that. I think I just can't process body language
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/17 12:46 AM
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Keep your eye on the prize, in your mind.
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/17 01:51 PM
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Work hard nonstop in all areas of life until you find him. Don't spend time going on tons of dates with guys because its a waste of time. Most guys like girls who seem not to care a lot about dating.
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/17 01:50 PM
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Why not just get married with a prenup? You will cheat yourself out of a lot of government benefits if you don't.
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/17 01:49 PM
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If you live somewhere in NYC or SF, the laundromat is excellent because there is 0 room in apartments (nor are there hookups for) laundry equipment.
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/17 01:47 PM
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How would you improve this though? Isn't that just something you're either good at or not?
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/17 01:44 PM
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I think it just depends on the guy. Some guys want you in full face glam makeup and all done up, while others only prefer natural beauties in athletic gear. Its like blondes vs brunettes, it depends. Most guys do want a barbie who appears effortless though. That means NEVER talking about the little things you do to become pretty and feminine, or else he will mark you as "fake" and "high maintenance" so you need to do most of this in private when he is not around. It needs to appear effortless.
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/17 01:42 PM
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I feel like these are obvious ones though because it all comes down to: be agreeable, be non-reactive, be feminine. Have you seen a list of ones that are more obscure or harder to pinpoint?
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/17 01:41 PM
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I agree. Context matters A LOT in terms of how much men will value you
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/17 01:38 PM
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Don't do it, its mostly lying timewasters who want to hook up and lie to do so. If you do use something, try a religious one or a paying one with caution
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/17 01:37 PM
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I mean, no one ever expects attractive women to be anything less than socially perfect, so people on your threads seem to just think that you are haughty and stuff. But if you posted in the same style except you described yourself as dorky and unattractive, I think that people might lean more toward thinking that you are somewhat on the spectrum. That's why I am battling these comments and laughing lol. Everyone is SO mad, but I know if I said I was ugly as fuck or plain or boring or something, …
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/17 01:06 PM
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Its true. Lying here does me no good.
/r/RedPillWomen07/04/17 07:31 PM
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I do have a roommate and I have a very feminine healthcare job. I actually rarely mention my actual job except for once or twice because its something that can be sexualized, and I don't want to come off that way. [I know men sexualize women already, especially ones who are hourglass and curvy yet slender, and with a sensual face so I try my best to avoid even more sexualization because I'm not going to start entertaining sexy talk with someone I don't even know. Otherwise I'm going to put him i…
/r/RedPillWomen07/04/17 01:59 PM
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No I got lots of helpful comments and PMs, just most of the other people were telling me I was full of myself (all because I laid out FACTS that are needed for advice) or people telling me suggestions without reading everything so it wasn't useful. I'm 120 lbs, brunette, green eyes, fair-caramel, white and 1/4 latina, very hourglass and curvy both up top and bottom with a small waist. I'm in the top tier of attractiveness in all honesty, so I know this isn't my problem. The only problem would be…
/r/RedPillWomen07/04/17 12:16 PM
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This is a forum where I have to lay out facts hard and clear so that I can get good advice. I don't do this in real life because I'm getting to know someone, not laying out facts for advice.
/r/RedPillWomen07/04/17 09:55 AM
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I approach A LOT too though. Not usually randomly because guys are too suspicious and cold because of it, but at mutual interest types of things or friends of friends. I do meet men in the group but they also just lead me on to hook up, which is unfortunate. And then it starts drama within the friendship circles so I try to avoid it these days because every time it has been way too much drama.
/r/RedPillWomen07/04/17 09:55 AM
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Lmao no, I stay friends with the guys I bonded with. It just wasn't in the cards. Many still text me or "like" all my photos
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 08:57 PM
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You give off that vibe and they are running. Nope I actually stay friends with most of them, even to this day
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 08:56 PM
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Which no one would ever know lol, goodbye
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 08:08 PM
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Yeah and hooked up with less than 10% of those lol. That's not weird at all. And no one knows my number, nor would I ever answer a creepy question like that. That is 100% easy to do because if a guy asks that question and I don't know them well then that's a red flag. If a guy asks that question and I do know him well, then I'd simply explain that I only hook up with men I've known for months and have really bonded with as we have tried to build toward a relationship. I am not going to ignore yo…
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 08:07 PM
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Yeah that's like 1 guy a year lol. Sorry but your logic is kind of freaking me out...
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 08:04 PM
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Lol that is ridiculous and not true. I have only ever hooked up with guys I knew for a few months and were special to me. There is nothing wrong with that.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 08:00 PM
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A lot of those were speed-dating style honestly. Like short little coffee dates, or online dates. I don't go out with everyone, I am selective, but a first date I am often open to if I don't know them because you never know. No, because I always assume after 3 months we are basically exclusive since we spend a lot of nights together, we talk for hours, we have tons in common, but they don't want exclusivity. I live in liberal Los Angeles so I feel like you can't relate at all because this advice…
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 08:00 PM
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None of this meaning your comment, not theirs
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 07:56 PM
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Umm you aren't telling me anything I haven't already written lol. Its well under 20, I can tell you that much. I googled the 1000 thing and that's stupid. All it is are women with pretty faces who were deep in though. Fact of the matter is, its mediocre girls who have the most partners, not girls with pretty faces who are thin and 10s to someone. And again, you can't look at someone and know their number.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 05:44 PM
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That's because I'm laying out the stark benefits and disadvantages I have in order to get blunt advice that is helpful. Which has worked. Thats 150 dates for someone who is almost 30 and has never been in a relationship. That's like one per month, on average.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 05:42 PM
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I've received lots of great tips via comments and PMs. However, none of this applies to me so it isn't helpful
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 05:41 PM
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I would but I wouldn't be able to find work in my field nor a visa
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 05:41 PM
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The end result? The end result would be a long term marriage and you'd have to look at that over time. I'm still 28 and there is still loads of time for me to find someone. I'm so petite with a soft voice that I'm often mistaken for 18-20. You're acting like my life is over and this is definitely not true lol. No I NEVER said I had sex with 25-30 guys, I just said that many were very special to me. That doesn't mean we hooked up. That means I saw them as a potential for LTRs that I fancied very …
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 04:31 PM
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I don't come across as desperate for sure lol. If I was desperate I would be in a relationship with a poor quality guy right now. But I'm not and have never been. I haven't even been on one date this whole year, so that logic is flawed.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 04:29 PM
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I would be turned off by a guy who doesn't have a history of LTRs. So every guy I'm serious about dating has that. What they fail to disclose, often times, is how they constantly cheated or were only with her to get regular sex while secretly dating others. One time I found out because I ended up becoming good friends with his ex's best friend who told me everything. Long after we had split. So I learned of his secrets I wouldn't have ever learned. I think men like the above are common in Los An…
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 04:28 PM
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No one will know my number. No one has asked for it before even. They ask about my past and usually comment that since I am so accomplished with work that no wonder I've been too busy to date. I usually just smile and nod.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 04:26 PM
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By Red Pill standards, I meet or exceed all the standards of a RPW. However, I am not necessarily looking for a RPM because most of them are pickup artists (seriously, go look at other RP threads), so that isn't exactly my goal. I have modeled, I have a high paid feminine science/health care job, I am fit with my dream body, I have a pretty face, my hair is long and luscious, I have lots of hobbies and friends, I have a great life really. I just don't have a relationship, and that's not uncommon…
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 03:50 PM
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Nope, its not even that high lol. And I feel like its irrelevant to even discuss, especially on reddit, considering I've only hooked up with men I know really well and really liked. My intentions were clear, that I was looking for a LTR. If the other party decided to lie or change their mind, or whatever else, guess what? That isn't my problem or a reflection of myself. I don't hook up right away. They definitely cared about my past. They definitely asked about prior boyfriends. But no one cares…
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 03:48 PM
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I mean I have. Just in major cities that are expensive where if you're handsome and well off financially, you have no incentive to settle down until you're like 49. So the high quality men I DO meet in my area usually are pretty upfront about just wanting to hook up. And because I'm not into that, no, they often don't get a chance. I definitely ask men ALWAYS on date number 2 what they are looking for. And I tell them what I'm looking for. I figure that on date number one we are just assessing e…
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 03:44 PM
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I never even told YOU my N count and you're already telling me its HIGH? Lol wow. My N count is not even high lol I never go without men for extended periods of time. I'm almost always being approached or actively dating someone. It just doesn't progress into seriousness. But I date a lot! Or at least have until I took a break at the beginning of this year because its so draining.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 03:40 PM
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I don't give off a casual sex vibe ever. I never have sex before like 3 months of avid dating anyway lol the soonest being 6 weeks and that is rare. What I did imply is that I have a sensual look (both body and face) so men think about sex before I ever even get to open my mouth. And that is not something I can help.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 03:00 PM
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By red pill standards they are mediocre and this is a red pill forum...
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 02:23 PM
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I don't think they're mediocre, I was talking about by Red Pill standards they are deemed mediocre
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 02:23 PM
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1.) Nobody would know my N count (and no its not even 30) 2.) Nobody has ever asked my N count before. All they ask about (if they ever ask) are past boyfriends and I don't have those 3.) I don't have to give my N count 4.) I behave very reserved or shy. I am not a party girl, I rarely even drink
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 02:23 PM
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They do try to date me. I just don't give most of them much of a chance because when you're really attractive, really accomplished, and are charming, you're usually not looking to settle down (if you're a man) at that point. And most of them allude to wanting sex right away.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 02:21 PM
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No my perception is that they are a good fit for me. Its society's perception that they are mediocre.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 02:20 PM
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I don't sleep with most of the men I go on dates with. Also, how would someone know my N count if I never tell them?
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 02:20 PM
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I wouldn't say I have a high N count, at least not in liberal LA. Also, how would someone even know my N count? No one has ever asked me to tell them, and since I've never had a boyfriend, most men would assume its low.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 02:12 PM
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These are guys I feel I have lots of chemistry with, and we bond over common interests. Thats why its always really shocking and heartbreaking to me when they don't want exclusivity. That's why I have believed them in the past when they said "lets just see where this goes..." and end up wasting my time with these player lines. I am pretty selective but I do give almost every guy a chance. I wouldn't continue to date a guy I had no chemistry with though. Yes, I do become less available because I …
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 01:55 PM
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I have received dozens of messages from people who live in LA who were like OMG I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN ABOUT LA BEING LIKE THAT!!! Who are all having the same problems. Its a problem that liberal, expensive areas have. No one has a reason to commit.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 01:46 PM
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Well I know I'm not slutty, but I can't help but think men think this because I've been told so many times or had it implied by strangers. So I know I do give off that vibe just from being alive and walking around. I have tons and tons of friends. I meet people all the time. That's why it makes no sense to me. I've even dated friends and then its like the minute we hook up, they are done and we aren't even really friends anymore aside from casual acquaintances. Yeah I get played by average looki…
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 01:45 PM
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I am definitely high quality. I'm told this, I feel this, and my life/body/career/interests are right where I want them to be.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 01:39 PM
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I feel like this doesn't apply to me because I've never had a boyfriend at any age, and also most people think I'm around 18-20. I once had a doctor's office write 19 on my chart when I was 27, and it was only after I corrected her that she changed it. So most people think I'm much younger than I am. I'm also very petite with a soft girly voice, so I think that also aids with that thought. I meet a lot of people and have a lot of friends. I have around 5 hobbies I avidly attend where I'm constan…
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 01:39 PM
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I mean, the guys I date who even get that far, we bond over common interests. They just have no reason to commit. I think that the average men who do date high quality women become further delusional in thinking "I live in LA, if I can get someone this good, surely I can get someone even better!!! Whose very famous or very very accomplished in her area like a well known artist!" and things like that. That is kind of the mentality in LA, though only through implications and nothing someone would …
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/17 12:40 PM
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I definitely don't want to date men that say prolly instead of probably lol
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/17 09:03 AM
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I spend my time in eastside LA and work in Pasadena. I haven't had luck. No one wants to settle down. They may not be dating 10/10 supermodels, but many of them definitely have it in their head that he's going to meet her one day lol
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/17 09:01 AM
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That's because people don't read the comments before replying so I have to repeat myself non-stop
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/17 08:59 AM
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Number 3 I've done so much with the same bleak results. I think that most of them are suspicious as to why I like them, or something. Its weird. Yes my plans are to try a matchmaker, and then to move to a big city in a conservative state if that doesn't work out.
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/17 08:52 AM
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I honestly do think it works against me. I remember being a plain jane teen and no one ever did this to me, I was mostly just overlooked. Now, I think that most men who ARE good guys must think I'm out of their league or a bitch, so I'm only approached by charming men with good game who aren't even that attractive so I never suspect them to be PUA types. I am almost sure this is what is happening to me. It makes me so mad and there's not much I can do to change it. Yes the never single women are…
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/17 08:51 AM
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Isn't is bizarre?? It weirds me out so much!
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/17 08:49 AM
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Yes. However, there are that many in LA. The ones that are in LA are all in South LA like the Compton area. There aren't that many that I come across, but yes I have before.
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/17 08:49 AM
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Its not that they date within their race, but most prefer to marry within their culture. I have dated other ones and was often turned down for this very reason. Example: "I can never take you around my grandma because she thinks all white women are slutty golddiggers" and that was actually something that was said to me
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/17 08:48 AM
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Yeah income never really ever comes up lol
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 04:55 PM
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She would look fat in a long flowy skirt. Mini skirts, no.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 04:10 PM
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Yes, but I also want to work part time and kind of be more modern. I've dated beta types too, and same luck lol
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 04:09 PM
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Yeah that's what confuses me so much! I feel like I shouldn't be having this trouble lol.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 04:09 PM
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Yeah I actually have seemed to have some of the best luck with guys who were "up" so I am going to try that. I just really don't care that much about wealth aside from him having a full time career job. Thanks
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 04:08 PM
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Online vs in person are very different.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 03:31 PM
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This is online. You have to give facts about yourself to get advice for yourself. Its like an interview. I don't act like this in person, no one does lol
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 03:30 PM
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I'm trying no sex before monogamy now rather than 2-3 months in
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 03:09 PM
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Yeah unfortunately I put too much faith in people
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 03:09 PM
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No but it is a throwaway for this topic
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 03:06 PM
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Lol not in a big expensive city. Men run from those because golddiggers are expensive. Its probably different elsewhere
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 02:57 PM
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My proportion, aside from my femininity, is my best asset honestly
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 02:42 PM
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So then doesn't this prove the SMV "scale" should just be a general pass/fail with exceptions to the rule?
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 02:41 PM
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I literally just agreed with someone about developing authenticity lol
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 02:23 PM
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I do suppose I probably oversell or undersell myself a lot, depending on recent experiences. Authenticity is good to develop, thanks
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 02:23 PM
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No I have lived 2 other places before
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 02:12 PM
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No. It means I have wanted an exclusive relationship but have never had one, and need to make changes but can't figure out well because I feel like I'm at peak SMV.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 02:12 PM
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I reread all the articles this morning lol
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 02:07 PM
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Yes I have endowed up top and below with a very tiny waist. I'm 120 lbs and workout. I am white (not that it matters) with 1/4 latina. I wear flattering clothing. I live in a big city, but I think I'd do better in a small city. Which big city did she move to? I'm assuming it was outside the US?
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 02:07 PM
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I am SUPER confident. I have a high paid feminine career, I have my ideal look, I have great friends and hobbies. I honestly have a great life. But it isn't enough. I'm looking for ways to improve my MMV, but I need someone to list the differences between SMV and MMV since my SMV already seems high.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 02:06 PM
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No, my SMV is high but I am trying to look for things to improve in my MMV so I can gain exclusivity.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 02:04 PM
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Yeah its clearly their problem (and I really don't care lol) because I'm just stating the facts. I can't get advice tailored to me if I don't disclose facts about me (that are often PHYSICAL because this is RPW and no one can see what I look like lol). I'm not really interested in dating a higher socioeconomic status honestly. Because in LA, that is usually associated with a higher value man and I already know those types don't want to settle down here. So I'd rather just have someone average. I…
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 02:04 PM
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No I'm saying my SMV is very high but somehow my MMV is not.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 02:00 PM
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I've been on dating sites and apps and literally like every guy I'd want to match with, I do. I think my SMV is very high, but not my MMV somehow? That's why I need to find the key differences between the two.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 01:59 PM
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Yes, 19.5 as of right now
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 01:57 PM
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Well I date all different types lol
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 01:57 PM
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There's a lot of high quality ones here. A lot.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 01:56 PM
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So yeah, then its subjective? You either like it or don't like it. If you don't have an opinion out it (neutral) then it would go in the dislike category because you don't "like" it.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 01:56 PM
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It's impossible for strangers on the internet to tell you what's wrong with your MMV. That's why I'm trying to spot the major differences between SMV and MMV. Because I know my SMV is at its peak.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 01:56 PM
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2 therapists told me that. I do believe it, but I know it isn't a "death sentence" and that there has to be other things I could learn to improve before resorting to moving away from my family and life.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 01:55 PM
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Well, for the sake of this post, we are going to change it from MMV to EMV exclusivity market value and make it the same thing.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 01:54 PM
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Okay so then how would you weed out the losers who lie and say they like the qualities you have when they don't? Other than making them wait a long time for sex, because they will still play along for however long it takes.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 01:53 PM
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yet you can increase your SMV within your own type, the way I see it. But how do you do that if you already are hourglass, have long hair, have a high pitched voice, wear flattering clothing, and do really sweet feminine things? Like how do you move up this supposed SMV scale at that point?
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 01:52 PM
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But I'm saying, how are you supposed to climb up this sexual market value scale if you already have a .7 waist to hip ratio, a large bust, long hair, a high pitched voice, and you're already sweet, very very experimental in bed, etc? Like how do you climb up that scale when you are already "feminine"?
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 01:51 PM
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Well I'm saying if you are already complimented about how feminine you are alllll the time (omg your voice is so high, omg I love your long hair, wow you're so pretty in the face, wow you're just so sweet/nice), how are you supposed to really improve? That's why I'm thinking its pass/fail?
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 01:49 PM
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Yes but I am almost the exact description of the "8" you wrote about and I have trouble getting relationships, so I can't help but think that someone's 8 could be someone's 3.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 01:48 PM
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pretty much.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 01:46 PM
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Majority of the people I know here are single, but some are committed yeah. Yeah I've been in monk mode for a year.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 01:46 PM
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No, it doesn't work like that. I'm in the same boat as this girl. When men tell you they want a relationship upfront, act like they want a relationship with you, spend a lot of time with you over time, and then you have sex with them... guess what? You did NOTHING wrong! You were manipulated by the man who is a liar. You can't change a liar.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 12:45 PM
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You are a clone of me and I am having the same problems non-stop. I think it is because you look like walking sex, followed by the area you probably live in. Do you live in a big city? See the thing is, if you wear something loose then you'll look sloppy and won't get seconds dates (at least for me). And then if you wear something fitted but classy, your body just screams SEX even if you don't do anything to even hint at it verbally. I am a brunette and this happens to me non-stop. I wouldn't ch…
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 12:44 PM
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No but I will right now, thanks. I think a big issue is that my area has too much of a supply of high quality women and less of a demand.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 12:12 PM
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I think a lot of people here really don't know how LA is like Totally agree lol. A lot of the comments I'm receiving make no sense lol, so I can tell. I turn 29 next month. I mostly date men in 30s, sometimes 40s, and rarely 20s (not knowing how old each other were when approached). I'm extremely positive, bubbly, fun, and open. Lots of hobbies yeah. And I mostly date shy, nerdy, or lowkey type of men.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 12:11 PM
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Then why do they come in the shop asking to look at a pair of those shoes?
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 12:04 PM
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sexual market value (think dating) vs relationship market value (think exclusivity)
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 12:03 PM
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Like what though? What are examples of the faults? Because what if she's very attractive and has good qualities?
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 11:51 AM
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I've been to therapists and they tell me its the area I live in
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 11:50 AM
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Well what is it, then? I've asked guys I've dated and they said there really isn't anything except they didn't want to settle down
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 10:37 AM
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Listing facts about myself on the internet is different than conversing online. All of that stuff is true, and yes I'm humble and that's one of the top 3 compliments I get from guys.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 10:36 AM
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I am super thoughtful, super kind, I always cook and bake for potential dates, and am super sweet. I have tons and tons of friends actually. Both female and male. I have a lot of hobbies so I meet a lot of people.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 10:07 AM
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I am not having sex until exclusivity now rather than the 3 month mark before, I've seen a therapist and all she told me was that its common in Los Angeles, and I definitely don't have a personality disorder. What PD would I even have lol? This is a throw away account.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 10:06 AM
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Okay but what if your MMV qualities are all really, really good and you still can't get exclusivity?
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 10:00 AM
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What if you have all those physical and personality traits that the married women have, and more, already?
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 09:59 AM
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So if a woman has like a 100% success rate with her SMV but a 0% success rate with her MMV (for exclusivity in general, not just marriage), what would you say is lacking?
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 09:49 AM
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I wouldn't say I'm 100% redpill, but I'm definitely at least 80% RPW. I'd describe myself as a modern RPW, if that makes sense. Actual RP seems like a lot of PUA men, with a smaller % that are just traditional and value sex. But yeah
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 09:48 AM
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Well yeah lol. Why wouldn't I want MY baby? It is my DNA. I mean if I didn't find out until the child was like 10 years old, then I'd probably keep the one that was accidentally given to me, and arrange visitations/vacations with the woman who received my real child because it basically would be like I adopted the child at that point. But if it was still a baby, I'd want my real child back. I don't understand why you're asking that though? Are you implying a paternity test could fail because the…
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 09:16 AM
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Can someone add more things to this list? I feel like I have most of these covers (with slight room for improvements of course), but I want to make some serious changes. What about learning new languages? Does that help? A little off topic above, but in order to achieve the items in the list, read literally all the links on the right of this page. I feel like most of it is covered there. If certain topics intrigue you from those articles, then google the topic (and add +reddit for forum results)…
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 08:58 AM
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I saw that article before and I really think dailymail is trolling because that woman is a 4 at best in LA where I live. However, I do think "woman so hot she HAS to cheat" is a real thing that men DO think for god knows what reason, when the woman actually is really hot and accomplished
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 08:57 AM
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I already date guys that are the male equivalent of plain jane. I don't mind. I'm not out there dating male models and gym goers lol. I've dated 2 guys who gym and that's only because we met in the gym where they approached me. Sorry, but if you've never lived in a major city, there are so many people and most of them, while not super hot, are not exactly ugly. They're just normal, and I don't mind. Looks will fade.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 08:55 AM
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Yeah I wouldn't care? Why not? I mean I'd think the guy is a little weird for wanting a paternity test lol but okay?
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 08:53 AM
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That's because LA and NYC are different ballgames. If you go re-read the post and comments, you will see that the top tier of men always pair with sugarbaby prostitutes who are aspiring actresses or students, so top tier women are forced to always date down if they want commitment (moreso than normal in these 2 places), thus giving men who'd normally have fewer options, a lot of options so then they have less incentive to commit. The whole dating pairing is very skewed in these areas, leading ma…
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 07:33 AM
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Lol nice try. There are plenty of men who want kids and a family unit
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 07:29 AM
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No they were mutual friends we had from before we met. Like I said, I usually meet guys off things that are common interests to both of us. And no, I wouldn't consider my future husband's wealth my wealth because I make six figures working 3 days a week in healthcare
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 07:29 AM
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I've answered several times in other comments but: age irrelevant, under 6 figures (this city is very expensive and tends to pay well), not that attractive but not ugly, not very charming/boring a lot of the time
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 06:16 AM
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Yeah if I lived in the south or midwest I'm pretty sure I'd never have this problem
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 06:15 AM
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Its hard though because there's so much traffic, but yeah I agree with you
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 06:14 AM
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No, I wasn't attractive until around age 20 so I just know what being hot and not being hot is. I'm just telling it like it is. I don't know why people get so mad about this on the internet. A fact is a fact lol. If I was still borderline ugly, I'd mention that instead.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 10:47 PM
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Yes because those are different forums where people have not heard me state those things. I need to rule out the things that AREN'T the issue so I can get to things that can POSSIBLY BE the issue. That's how it works.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 10:46 PM
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Honestly, I don't see how that would work out because of so many catfish and weird married people online who want to cheat but can't fully commit to it. I think of Meri from Sister Wives lol. I feel like all that is so common. I don't think I could put my faith into that kind of thing without constantly being paranoid as to why they'd accept a LDR and couldn't find someone nearby. I mean, I have a reason and that reason is that men in my area don't really commit, which is common here and in NYC.…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 10:42 PM
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I mean, I feel the same way you do!! That's why I'm here. I'm just like HOWWWW? I'm looking for one too.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 10:39 PM
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In my area, mediocre men definitely have a lot of options. Probably not most other places though. Only large liberal cities.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 10:36 PM
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The pictures you posted, I DO wear those and indicated that. You can go back and re-read, I DO already wear short a-line skirts and those are what are in the photos you just linked lol
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 08:04 PM
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I've also listed my personality traits 100 times in this thread. You see what you want to see.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 08:03 PM
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I do avoid Hollywood area. Hate those places, even driving through them is annoying
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 06:37 PM
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I agree with that. I was talking about society's viewpoint vs my own
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 06:07 PM
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Afghan
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 06:05 PM
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I mean it does because I am suspicious as to why the guy is talking to me at first. I don't actually think I'm a sex object and I never even talk about sex because I refuse to let them cultivate that image of me in their mind. They can do that in private but I will have no part of it.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 05:24 PM
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Yeah that's the new thing I've been trying. No success yet. It is hard because I have a high sex drive, but I've learned to go without lol. We will see how it works. Every guy I talked to about this idea, who also live in my area, told me I will never ever be able to date anyone here, so we will see what happens.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 05:20 PM
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Yeah there was this one guy I REALLY liked, whom I had everything in common with. We spent almost everyday together at the end. And then one day he was like "you know, one of my cousins married a white girl and the entire time my grandma told him that she will leave him and take half his money like a gold digger and then one day she did, and now my grandma is very racist against white women especially those who are pretty, so I can never ever take you home to meet her!"
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 05:18 PM
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I really wish I knew what to do about this mess. The mediocre men HAVE to lead on high value women or else they wouldn't be getting even close to as many hookups as they get. They only get the high value women because those specific high value women want to settle down and look at the guy thinking "well he's below my ideals, but I'll settle for this because I really like them" and then the joke is always on her when he has too many options and refuses to commit even though she's settling. I'm an…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 05:03 PM
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Exactly. I can't be close to people who didn't live by me growing up or who are dead. I can't go and try to make things that don't exist, exist. But I am definitely unfairly judged for it. It has happened several times to the point where I try VERY hard to NEVER talk about family. I have been tempted to make up a completely fake story of a large family far away lol, but that would probably be more problems than it is worth. And yeah, usually the guy is 100% okay with it, but its the family that …
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 04:59 PM
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Thats why I know I'm likely making a mistake somewhere. I do not regard men with disgust lol. All I was saying is that I've never dated a guy who makes 6 figures, a guy whom most people think is attractive, and have only dated 2 guys that went to the gym and that's because we met at the gym. I date the male versions of the plain jane, and that is why I referred to them as mediocre. I was talking about in a societal context, not what I personally think about them. I don't think they are mediocre,…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 04:58 PM
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If this advice doesn't apply, then I don't know what to tell you other than loads (not all but lots, even in your post you say less attractive women are always in LTRs) hav Umm I replied to things that are inaccurate, or gave facts. That doesn't make me entitled or non-modest. I am very modest and am complimented on that often.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 04:55 PM
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Make them wait for sex but once you do start it, make it an awesome experience again. I'm not advocating doing things you aren't comfortable with but definitely look into his eyes, dirty talk, random bjs, strip tease, tease him mercilessly, make it fun, combine everyday things with naughtiness. That's the best thing after you start having sex to going to fiancée/wife level. He should be constantly wanting to be with you and you can make it happen by being a feminine woman that's not anxious, a h…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 04:52 PM
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This is the internet where I have to admit things about myself that are facts in order to get advice. I am not going to talk like this in person. I am actually very modest and have been complimented on it a lot.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 04:51 PM
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I didn't grow up around like any of my family, so I didn't really have one. A lot of them died young and both of my parents are from different states/areas and met here. Most have passed away so I pretty much don't have family now. So I am heavily looked down upon by other cultures, and am aware of that. There have been plenty of relationships with guys from traditional cultures that WOULD have worked out, but the only reason it did not was because their family was not okay with them being with …
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 04:47 PM
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Valuable to people who value health, nutrition, and gym time. So if the guy is into that, yes. If the guy values his health, yes. If not, no. It would depend on the guy. But it is valuable in general and that can't really be argued unless you don't care about your health. Compliments can be trusted or else the guy would move on to a new girl since there are plenty of single women.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 04:45 PM
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NO WHERE in your comments do you admit there might be something wrong with you. Um I've listed many things. I'm shy, for example. I come off very reserved sometimes, especially when I am in a group. I am told that sometimes I don't connect as well as I should because I may not share enough about myself. That's one example. I'm not overestimating myself, I'm being honest. I'm really not. I am very modest in person. Very. Sorry, but if you've never lived in a liberal major city, you really can't u…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 04:05 PM
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Before I came here, I was aware I could move someone conservative and have the results I want. However, my family is here, my career is here, I like it here, and I'm looking for ways to improve my dating strategy here before I just up and create a new life somewhere else.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 04:04 PM
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I definitely agree with you!! I'd actually prefer not to date someone white unless they were very family oriented, but most don't seem to be. It just seems like, from my experience, that people date within their race here in LA, especially within their culture. I have actually had many of the types of men you listed tell me that their family would never be okay with them dating a "white" women because we are perceived to be gold diggers who marry for money and divorce easily. It really sucks bec…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 04:00 PM
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Because dating is different in liberal major cities, which is the entire premise of the show Sex And The City for example. Lol that didn't come from no where
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 03:57 PM
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Sorry, but how else are you going to rank the difference in someone who is very high value versus mediocre, in societal terms? If are average of below average in face/body/style/grooming, you have a basic job that isn't high paid, and you are kind of boring (but shy and I like that quality), how else would you really rank that person societally? I love how men have the 1-10 ranking system for women, but I have the "high value, mediocre, low value" ranking system and I'm some psycho who needs a r…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 03:56 PM
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Lol people's projections are so weird sometimes. I love how men have the 1-10 ranking system for women, but I have the "high value, mediocre, low value" ranking system and I'm some psycho who needs a reality check. Lmao
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 03:54 PM
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I am here looking for suggestions of what I can change related to the dating process. My looks are fine, my femininity is fine, my personality is fine. I am looking for things that change the way the dating process is going here, or major things that will make me stand out.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 03:54 PM
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owever it's plausible that once you did become attractive the way people treated you has changed you (whether you realize it or not). Yes, I know this is the case. I am treated differently now. I am treated as a sex object now, but wasn't for my first 20 years of life, despite being the same person. I need to figure out how to not be treated as a sex object. That is what I am struggling with. No matter how conservative I act, men can't get past seeing me as a sex object, and I want to avoid this…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 03:53 PM
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Okay, I'm weeding out things that don't apply or are inaccurate, so yes there's going to be a lot of replies by me along those lines. I love lace and wear it almost everyday. I love velvet as well and very feminine textures. I don't do dark lips, have lash extensions, again I'm very girly. Again, I am weeding out things that don't apply to me. I know I'd have instant luck in a smaller city or conservative state, but again, that is not my reality right now. I need advice that applies to where I'm…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 03:46 PM
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No, I'm just not going to respond to things that don't apply to me.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 02:44 PM
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You definitely did NOT read my post before commenting! I ONLY date mediocre men and I am the one making around 6 figures, not them. I don't think I've dated a guy who makes more than me. I label them mediocre because all the high value men are busy with their constant rotation of "apiring actress" sugarbaby prostitutes that they trade in for new ones every year or two lol. So I know that I have to aim a little lower than what I can offer, because that's how Los Angeles is set up.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 02:42 PM
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Nice try, you didn't even read the post or comments or else you'd know that high value women like me date mediocre men because the high value men in LA are all with rotations of sugarbaby prostitutes, thus giving mediocre men way too many options of high value women. Ask any mediocre guy about this in LA and he will confirm. Its just kind of how it is here.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 02:41 PM
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This is Los Angeles. The pay is very inflated here. You'd need to make like 60k to barely scrape by and even then you'd probably still have roommates in your tiny apartment.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 02:40 PM
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I came here to kind of look for tips on what I can do to improve here, rather than just move. I know thats always an option. I've lived in 3 liberal areas and all were like this so far, but I don't know if that was just a coincidence.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 02:37 PM
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Exactly. So what can a high value woman do to get a mediocre man to commit even though he has lots of other high value women? I'm kind, funny, thoughtful, loyal, spontaneous, sweet, funny, love to cook, lots of hobbies like gardening, hiking, sewing, music, film, reading, nutrition/bodybuilding, animals, all sorts of stuff.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 02:36 PM
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No, I MEET and DATE good (mediocre) men all the time! They just don't want to be exclusive because they are having too much fun dating high quality women since the high quality men here in LA are all with those sugarbaby prostitutes lol
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 02:33 PM
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I would consider dating sites. Also, don't be afraid to message men first. I have, but they are all awful in my area. Its mostly just con artists and time wasters who lead women on in an attempt to get sex. I was on/off dating sites for 8 years to the point where I was like "okay my WORST dates are coming from dating sites so I can't do it anymore" but I know that its likely my area, and big cities in general where men feel like they have unlimited options. I've dated men from traditional cultur…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 02:31 PM
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My SMV is, but not my RMV since men tend to value fame here. Or just being well-connected in general. Everywhere else, SMV and RMV would be about the same, but in a place with lots of hot people, its very different. Nice projection, but I have a fantastic personality. I'm extremely feminine, never nagged anyone about anything, very sweet and funny, shy at first, loyal, kind, curious, thoughtful, and spontaneous. Yes my family asks all the time why I don't have a relationship as I am the only one…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 02:26 PM
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Yeah I definitely do have a hard time standing out because in order to do a lot of the fun stuff here, you have to know people. So people value social climbing here a lot, thus preferring to settle down with someone famous, or who has tons of connections. That's just how LA works and you can't really get around that because its not set up the same as somewhere like NYC where you can walk around and find stuff. Well-connected people can take many forms, but it usually correlates with fame (women)…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 02:19 PM
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Again, you did not read the other comments before commenting. I did not become attractive until around age 20, and before that I was a plain jane always overlooked by most guys, so I had 20 years to exclusively develop my personality. I have tons of interests and hobbies. I love to cook and am really good at it. I am very feminine, loyal, supportive, quick witting, great business sense, and with a large knowledge of healthcare due to my current career. I am creative and very funny. I have lots o…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 02:17 PM
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Okay you definitely did not read my post before commenting lol
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 01:54 PM
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i think its either move out or pray to god there is a highvalue male who prefers ltr. I mean, that's the plan. I feel like I haven't gotten many replies of substance on this post because its just people telling me to move, telling me not to have sex with men I don't know which I don't even do, or telling me I'm a narcissist because I mentioned that I used to model (which no one in LA even cares about because its common). All I can do is fix the situation at hand. I am looking for ways to improve…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 01:53 PM
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Okay I watched all 20 minutes of that youtube link and all that happened was he said he could have sex with lots of women if he wanted to and that harassment laws just entice more assholes to harass women because nice guys leave women alone and obey laws. While that is true, it didn't really teach me anything new, nor did it list ways for me to improve and be seen as scare or adding value.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 01:46 PM
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Yes, it came up because I am very to-the-point and will instantly nix things that are not related to getting the results for the topic I came to post about. This is the internet and not indicative about my demeanor. I know how I am IRL because I am continuously told by others. I'd listen to people who are observing me IRL rather than a few randoms on the internet who have never met me and are reading things based off text. I know if I were to move to like a small town on the east coast that I'd …
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 01:43 PM
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This isn't about RPM, its about men in general and some may be RP while others may not.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 01:39 PM
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Not true. When I was a teen and child I was very, very, very plain and never approached by men. I didn't "bloom" til around 20. So I spent my first 20 years developing my personality because I wasn't "the pretty girl." The men who were around me, as I addressed in another comment, were very genuine because I wasn't "pretty" (but I wasn't ugly either, just plain and not very feminine). I have tons of hobbies and that's what we usually bond over. That's why it doesn't make sense that I "don't add …
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 01:15 PM
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I don't think that's true because they don't know how much I make. We never really talk about money
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 01:08 PM
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Mediocre man = - a full time career job that does not pay close to 6 figures - not that attractive but not ugly - probably a plain or a little boring - short, or not very tall - shy, not powerful, not a lot of social connections (this matters in big cities for the record) Something like that. It varies from person to person. A high quality woman= - very physically attractive in the body and face - great style - very feminine in mannerisms and looks, and pays great attention to detail - has a car…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 01:06 PM
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No that isn't true. I don't care if the man makes six figures. I am also fine with working part time (which is common, especially in LA) where my income would be cut in half, if it was that big of a deal. PT is common in my field as well. Also, prenups? Marriages can have a prenup. Not a big deal. I'd sign one and wouldn't bat an eyelash. I'm not there to be a golddigger. Nor do I even care if he makes six figures (most of the guys I date do not, to my knowledge, anyway). He also shouldn't feel …
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 12:53 PM
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I suspect this happens in almost every big city, as well as medium-sized cities too to a slightly smaller degree. What happened was this: Feminism made it okay for women to have casual sex. So now the wealthy men who are decently attractive pretty much exclusively spend their time with sugarbaby prostitutes that they easily replace. Its like an escort, only they pay monthly instead of per session so it feels like a temporary girlfriend you can turn on and off when you'd like. Their previous matc…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 12:44 PM
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And you are projecting your own insecurities here. I mentioned modeling because I want to rule out that the issue is because of my looks. I don't need advice saying becoming more feminine or get fit because that doesn't apply here really. That's all. Its not a big deal, half the population here is in entertainment and no one bats an eyelash or cares. Lastly, YES I CAN control the way I am perceived. If I were to show up in sweat pants and hair I haven't brushed versus a fitted dress and polished…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 12:06 PM
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Yes because I've never had a real LTR, and am seeking that. This is a throwaway account specifically for this issue since I give identifying information (looks, career, age, location, etc) so yes that is the focus of this account. I am looking for suggestions of things to change or do differently. I do know that LA is a special case/situation than the norm, and that is why it is difficult. Read the other comments if its not clear as to why.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 12:00 PM
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I rarely hook up with guys, and only after I've known them for a long time so I have no idea what your problem is. Just because I am a target for pickup artists doesn't mean I hook up with them, its just obvious what they want from me. Nope, modeling is nothing special, I agree. In LA, its nothing special because like half the people walking around are in some form of entertainment. That's why I am so amused that everyone on here cares so much that I wrote that.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 11:58 AM
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LA, like NYC, is a gold mine for men yeah. I really don't mind mediocre men. Like I know looks fade, its not a big deal to me. I actually do well with higher quality men too, who want to settle down, but odds are they don't want to so I usually just go for the mediocre type of guy. Yes, how do I prove I am worth more, to men? What is an example of something I can do for scarcity? This is exactly the information I am looking for, now I just need examples.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 11:22 AM
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I mean, it applies to society as a whole, but I am not in that category. That's what I meant. Again, does NOT apply directly to me! Just because I date all these men does not mean I am having sex with all these men. I would need to wait at least ~2 months of actively dating a guy, in general, before I'd even consider hooking up. You are not understanding what I wrote. YES, MEN HAVE TRICKED ME INTO BEING A FWB, but it was because they TOLD me: 1.) they were looking for a relationship, and 2.) act…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 11:09 AM
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Definitely not, and I am pretty high class myself anyway. So its probably the opposite. But I could care less about that stuff. The west coast isn't into that whole "old money/new money/class" thing like the east coast is, in all honesty. Let me explain a little bit about LA. High quality men (wealthy, attractive, etc) are the ones who never settle because they want a constant stream of "aspiring actress" sugarbaby prostitutes to date for 2 years and then replace. That means most high quality wo…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 11:03 AM
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I definitely don't have a temper lol. I am shy and mellow, very sweet. You are projecting weird things onto me. If I reply harshly, it is because those are straight up facts I'm replying with. Facts and facts, it is what it is. Everyone is getting mad saying I'm full of myself because I'm talking about my looks. No. This is RPW: LOOKS MATTER. I'm hot and I'm aware of it lol, I didn't choose to be born with these genetics and I like taking good care of myself. It is what it is. I'm very modest, b…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 10:53 AM
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I do think big cities are typically like this yeah, but my career tends to do best in high cost of living bigger cities so that's why I'm here. My previous career, same thing. I will eventually move to a conservative state if I am still single in a few more years (luckily I look much younger than I am) but I'd rather not have to because of all that is offered to me in my area. I'd really like to find someone here, and I know there are a lot of great guys here, but for whatever reason they just d…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 10:48 AM
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I am not new to posting about this issue and from what I have learned, I have to be very specific about what isn't the issue or I will continually receive advice to fix things that are already fine. Which is why I emphasized looks are not the issue. This is important in RPW because the entire concept of a RPW is that she LOOKS feminine, and bonus points for being fit. So I needed to emphasize that is not my issue so we can get to the real stuff. And you are taking those replies to people out of …
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 10:40 AM
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This is a throwaway account for this specific issue since I've given clues as to what I look like and my careers and stuff, so I wouldn't say I'm obsessive. Its just the account make it looks like I am because its throwaway. I actually wasn't bothered by this til about 2 years ago when I realized wow you are now in your latter 20s and have never had a relationship so you need to step things up! That's when I started trying to go on lots and lots of dates with all kinds of men (especially online)…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 10:31 AM
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I can't wear a circle skirt or an a-line skirt (unless its short). I am built like Kim Kardashian or a slimmer Christina Hendricks and I get this all the time from people. Picture her in a circle skirt. It makes her look fat. I have an extreme waist to hip ratio but I'm still only 120 lbs. I look very, very frumpy and fat in anything that is not fitting. As for what I do wear, I do wear a lot of dresses that are fitting like a bodycon, but I wear higher cut dresses up top, and typically only in …
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 10:20 AM
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I don't model anymore but I was a professional model for 7 years, and I only stated that so we could get the basics out of the way. The entire concept of RPW is the FACT that men ARE attracted to pretty, fit, feminine women so I wanted to emphasize that so I wouldn't get 100 responses telling me to go to the gym or become more feminine. I'm not a brat, I'm just giving you the facts. NO, women of lesser quality, in the context of RPW, means women who are NOT feminine, who are very plain and never…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 10:15 AM
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I think so too. I actually did have some luck with men when I was a teen because I was a little heavier and was very, very plain almost never wearing makeup. I was definitely not a tomboy, but I wasn't that feminine per say. However, since getting older, I need to work out and I feel more appropriate wearing a bit of makeup. But back when I was a teenager, I attracted a completely different type of guy who did seem more into dating. It just wasn't a real relationship (puppy love) if that makes s…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 10:12 AM
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None of those are true at all. I am just laying out the facts, and as RPW in a nutshell says, femininity and looks matter as lot. So I am emphasizing I have all of those qualities so we can move past that and look at the other issues since those boxes are checked in my case. I'm definitely not desperate, I have a fantastic very fulfilling life. I just want to fill in the things I don't have and the only thing right now that I don't have and would like is a LTR.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 10:08 AM
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I came from the north and it was the same situation. I've also lived outside CA and same situation. However, I hope that was just coincidental. I do think a big part of my issue is LA, but on the other hand, I do see a lot of less qualified women who are married and married to catches here. Its just really random, it almost seems like its a lottery in LA. I'm white and 1/4 latina (I just look exotic) but have dated all races. Most people, oddly enough, seem to only want to date within their own …
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 09:01 AM
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Yeah because they have the same types of schedules, the same career understanding, and the same really rare income bracket, as well as fame so they know they are not being used. Makes sense to me. However, I am not an actress, nor do I want to be, nor would I want to date an actor ever.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 08:58 AM
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Upper class men do that, yes. But the problem with LA is that most rich men only want a constant rotation of young sugarbabies. Most don't want to marry, or do at like age 49 on a crisis whim. I was talking about mostly the rest of California because LA is a different world from what I see. But I haven't only lived in LA. Yes I think my next step is to date a higher quality man and to have no sex before exclusivity. I am going to try that. I actually tend to do better with higher quality man rat…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 08:10 AM
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Independence is subjective. Any woman can be independent if she wants. But you can easily quit your job and become dependent. I think its a red flag if I were a man and the woman had never had a job before.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 07:50 AM
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I've never been party focused. I rarely drink, and am more of a homebody but I do like to go out and do activities like hiking for example. I am very vulnerable with dating and dating has now become a little hard for me to do because I always open up and get close with the guy over time, only to be friend-with-benefit zoned or friendzoned if we never hook up. Its really hard on me emotionally to get so attached to guys over months and months of dating, them taking me on thoughtful dates and buyi…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 07:43 AM
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Sorry if this is mean, but if you come from a middle or upper class household (at least in California), you will be groomed from a young age to be educated and independent. All the men here in big cities like mine marry extremely beautiful women who are fit, can cook, but also who are very educated. Its not enough in my area to just be "hot" because men want a 10 in looks AND someone who has a pedigree of a degree and a career. A lot of jobs here are freelance or part time, so there is no issue …
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 07:33 AM
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I don't disagree with what you wrote.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 07:29 AM
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I am not bratty at all, I am extremely sweet and a little shy. Not egotistical at all. I was a model for 7 years so I'm just being honest. I live in Los Angeles and I know I'm nothing that sticks out here. You may think its a "big deal" but literally half the people walking around in LA are "famous" for some reason or another so no one would bat an eyelash here if I said I was a model (or ex-model in this case). Its not a big deal. There are a lot of pickup artists here because LA does attract n…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 07:28 AM
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Why would a man choose to be with you other than simple companionship? What makes him want to take care of you? Because that's the best situation when you want to have children? Because I want companionship? I don't need men, no, no woman does if she does as society now tells her. But I'd like one. There are way too many sugarbabies in LA to attract men who want to take care of women financially for long-term. I see these women with a man for like 2 years tops paying their bills, then they move …
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 07:27 AM
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I would still definitely work part time at least. But I know that's besides the point
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 07:24 AM
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Like what? I do think that SOMEHOW, I give off a casual sex vibe. And I only say that because men are dead set on secretly trying to force me to be their casual sex buddy even though I make it VERY clear I want a LTR and dislike casual sex. I don't think that is a vibe I purposely give off, but one that is given off due to my hourglass shape, sensual face, and feminine voice. I "look sexual" in anything form-fitting, even if it covers me.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 06:33 AM
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Also, another thing worth mentioning: So about the users I attract... it kind of goes something like this. We go on dates for months and months. It turns into activities we both mutually like, after the first few weeks. They seem really into me and are willing to wait for sex, but I really think they only do this because they want sex and think they'll get it eventually. And I think that because what usually ends up happening is that 2-3 months in, I do have sex with them and assume we are build…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 06:30 AM
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See I would worry men would think this about me, but my career is feminine and still higher paid so I don't think they'd be afraid to commit to me.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 06:23 AM
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It is pretty shallow, but I don't play into that. I didn't choose to be attractive. I just take care of what I was given. I wouldn't consider myself shallow at all, at least not in the LA way.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 06:21 AM
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I have lived in 2 other places where the women were definitely less attractive, but I did have the same results. There are a lot of attractive women with a lot to offer here though.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 06:20 AM
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I do think this is the issue. I know a lot of quality women here who are single just like myself. However, I do know a lot of women of equal or less quality who are never ever single, and also live in LA. This is why its confusing for me. I've lived in 2 other cities and had the same problem, unfortunately. One in the same state and another in a different state. Same experiences. Perhaps I should move to a conservative state. I could always move back with a guy. People here aren't really religio…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 06:20 AM
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The number one thing is location, but I've lived in 2 other locations before and had the same problem. I do live in the liberal state of California though. Los Angeles has a lot of people who don't seem to want to commit, but they say they do at first and then they were a waste of my time months later. Another issue could be that men only see me as a sex object since I have an exaggerated hourglass shape and a very sensual face (I've modeled). I have to make sure to mention my science/health car…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 06:15 AM
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I have modeled and am very fit (workout 2 hours per day typically) so I know its not my looks. I get tons of dates, just not men who are serious for a relationship (I guess they just want to hook up?), which is unfortunate.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 06:03 AM
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Some are aggressive, some aren't. I lose interest in ones who aren't aggressive obviously because they aren't into me (probably because they realized I wouldn't have casual sex). So its pretty easy to weed out the first round of time wasters. I think I'm a target for guys who just want to hook up since I have an hourglass shape with a very sensual face. Unfortunately, that isn't really something I can change. I just want to figure out how to find men who are actually serious and won't waste my t…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 06:02 AM
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Should I move to a conservative state? Would that be worth it?
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 05:34 AM
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I do have a 6 figure feminine science/healthcare career so I don't think a man would be put off by the thought of losing things in a divorce with me. I'm not religious, and I almost never come across religious people in LA. I meet Jewish people, but they are extremely liberal. I am ALWAYS upfront about being LTR-oriented, and NEVER sleep with a man before 6-8 weeks and its often 3 months in. I have decided to institute a no sex before monogamy policy, but that has resulted in the same thing as b…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 05:33 AM
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I mean, I've never had a relationship though and I don't understand why. I have modeled, I have a feminine science/healthcare job, I am extremely fit and feminine, and guys tell me my best features are my femininity and my face. I don't understand what the problem is. The only I can think of is my area EDIT: I just watched the video and this definitely does not apply to me. I would never sleep with a man I did not know well.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 05:30 AM
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Yes I have had this happen. It just hasn't worked, or they tell my friend later that I'm too young for them. I am almost 29, but look around 19 so that can be kind of awkward for a guy 40+ I suppose. Yes I definitely have shown what I can contribute. I think I am an excellent catch. I do believe, or suspect, that most men in LA prefer to be single or have a rotation of plates.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 03:47 AM
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Pretty much accurate. I have no problem getting dates, and then I weed out the ones whom I have nothing in common with or are not a good fit, but I can never get into "relationship" status, only dating.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 03:45 AM
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All kinds of different places. Coffee shops, book stores, on the street, parking lots, grocery stores, daytime parties thrown by friends, gym, restaurants, literally everywhere. Also online dating and social media, but I really dislike online dating now as I am convinced (through my own trial and error) that its mostly men who just want to hook up while pretending they want a relationship in order to get those hookups. As far as hobbies: music-related events (the most common for me to meet men),…
/r/RedPillWomen01/04/17 05:34 PM
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Yes I live in Los Angeles. I have lived in 1 other major city and one medium city and had the same problems there too
/r/RedPillWomen01/04/17 04:21 PM
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What if all you end up with are men who act like they are your boyfriend but refuse to commit? How do you avoid those guys?
/r/RedPillWomen01/04/17 03:49 PM
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