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Red Pill-- Cries about the downfall of society but discourages the things that can turn it around (marriage, raising strong sons). Only "works" with low value and/or low self-esteem women trying to sleep their way into a husband. Too much revenge fantasy in TRP to be grounded in reality. Abusive/manipulative behavior is forgiven and encouraged because many of its followers are just MGTOWs who can't live without pussy. Blue Pill-- Too much self-loathing and denial of masculinity. Hard to really c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 04:49 PM
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There are more people to cheer on the woman. Men see another guy getting cucked and feel better about their own position in life (at least they're not him), and women see a woman getting that nasty strange and say "you go girl!". It's not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 04:39 PM
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It's not that hard to be associated with a guy without leading him on. Women do it all the time with men who have nothing to offer them. It's a pretty transparent facade to go all Pikachu face when a guy she's been stringing along makes a move.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 04:36 PM
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I guess it would fluctuate with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 08:21 PM
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Agreed. The official ranking should be Attractive women > Attractive men > Ugly men > Ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 08:06 PM
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Exactly this. Masculine behaviors = risky, reckless arrogance. Unless you're giving your spot on the lifeboat to a woman or child, going to dying in a war. Then it's just "honorable human behavior" but we can't just attribute that to men what about the WAMMIN?!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 08:00 PM
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All relationships are fairly Blue Pill. Actual practice of TRP wouldn't have the guy committing himself to one woman like that. It's helpful to sprinkle some RP attitudes into a relationship, sure (dread and all that) but the fact of the matter is if you're sexually committed to one woman and still think that it's possible to be fully Red Pill, you're delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 07:54 PM
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You're right. I thought two of my close friends had an excellent marriage going and suddenly I'm hearing about a divorce. People tend to really overestimate their ability to perceive these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 07:49 PM
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Yeah they sound super masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 05:58 PM
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You may not be a psychologist, but the APA is not being shy about their views on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 05:49 PM
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Maybe part of raising them right is kicking them out at a certain age?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 05:40 PM
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Any sort of "standards" or shallowness a guy has are completely outweighed by his desperation. He's still a shallow individual, he's just willing to stuff that down to get his dick wet. Something that women, understandably, are less willing to do. They run the risk of having to abort this loser's baby, and/or develop a whore's reputation. What is a guy risking? An STD? Jokes about sport-hunting with the boys? There's not an equivalence here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 01:43 PM
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This is a well thought-out and reasoned response. The entirety of The Red Pill is built on the idea that what women say and how they behave are two completely different things. I don't think it's necessarily so, but women do seem to heavily adjust their preferences/standards in a way that paints them in a better light. Women will say that just looking at a guy won't turn them on, and then Aquaman comes out and we see that it was all just posturing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 07:41 PM
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I'm not trying to say they're analogous, I'm trying to show that men will blame women to absolve their own bad behavior. Your rhetorical is complete garbage, and obvious bait. Don't let feminism trigger you so hard that you turn to low effort "gotcha's" to make points.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 09:00 PM
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I don't understand how a man being a willing participant in sex absolves women of their choices. Are you arguing for male hypoagency?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 08:48 PM
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So that he can treat women like shit without the inconvenience of taking responsibility. So also: "Baby, why you gotta make me hit you all the time?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 07:56 PM
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Isn't that what settling means?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:15 PM
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30 M. I've been in love twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 03:49 PM
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Everybody has always wanted the whole package, and everybody settles. What we're seeing with the internet is that people can be more public about their idea of what the whole package is, it lets us read their minds a bit. If you were to ask a man what his ideal wife would be, it would sound pie-in-the-sky ridiculous and laughable. Same goes for women. Yes she wants a tall guy with a good physique, good income, and a good personality who facilitates her ideal lifestyle. Would wouldn't want that? …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 03:43 PM
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It's all humanity's tremendous sense of self-importance. We've determined that, because we created civilization, we must be beyond petty things like pre-determined roles and specializations. We spend a massive amount of time and effort trying to destroy the things that nature made us naturally good at, because we're absolutely unable to deal with jealousy, envy, or discomfort.
/r/TheRedPill19/01/19 04:29 PM
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There’s a form of perverse female power of making herself sexually delicious and then depriving men of even talking to her. IF you're unattractive. If you're unattractive, you're just a rapist who hasn't raped yet. If you're fit and confident, you have her permission to be her little beta bitch boy for sex tokens.
/r/TheRedPill19/01/19 04:20 PM
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why do you think it has to be this way for men? Because even though we live in a society in which skinnyfat kowtowing nerds CAN and often DO succeed (in a financial, and sometimes social) sense, those ways of living don't historically have value. And I disagree that most men just want to be kind-- most men want to have their kind actions repaid with sex. If the sex isn't there, nice men turn into resentful monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 01:46 PM
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It's tough bragging to men about how hard and disciplined you are, and then lying to women about how you just go casually a few times a week. Tough, but not impossible. I should know, I do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 08:06 PM
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I would reckon for most, it depends on what form the "meanness" takes. Directness is not inherently mean, but can be seen as bitchy because of societal standards. If a woman is just being direct and you're never guessing how she's feeling, that can be a great asset. Being mean just for the sake of it-- catty, gossiping, undermining, deceitful, is a whole different ball game.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 05:11 PM
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The moment you do what you want, go out when you want, talk to other girls she's the nicest person ever. Doubtful, especially if you've been at her beck and call for a substantial amount of time. If you just turn on 'alpha' mode out of nowhere, she's going to be pissed. She'll try to reign you in, and then, if she can't, she'll either try to win you back or ditch you for another guy she can control in the same fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 04:26 PM
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The conflation is suffocating. It doesn't help that the psychopaths trigger false positives in women, as well. If I had a dollar for every chick with a serial killer fascination...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 04:22 PM
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One should assume the fight was getting too rough, a la the reference to bullying. Anybody with a child realizes that there's a spectrum of acceptable behavior and that judgement calls need to be made by adults. Anybody who sees that and concludes that the message is "boys should never be allowed to play rough" is being intentionally dense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 04:19 PM
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Exactly. They're trying to sell razors. People get all bent out of shape because a company stated what's been obvious for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:52 PM
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Language is important. He can choose "too" is different than the language you used before, which implied that women weren't at all responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 07:40 PM
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Women have agency and responsibility, especially in regards to pregnancy and who they sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 06:19 PM
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Holding frame with someone you have no connection to, see one hour twice a week just for sex, it's extremely easy. Holding frame with someone very dear to you, with whom you share space, is not so easy. That's because a lot of TRP advice is borderline, if not outright abusive. It's way easier to rationalize it all away if you don't have to stick around for the fallout.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 06:09 PM
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I like how people have this rosy idea that past behavior is no indicator of current/future behavior. Do you realize how ignorant that is? Yes, people change, but it's foolish to just ignore red flags and they're flying by you. Look, I'm a recovering alcoholic. I've changed a hell of a lot, but anybody who is interested in a long term relationship with me is going to understandably realize that I have a potential for really bad behavior in the future. I could argue and argue that those days are b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:59 PM
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kind of a toss up this close to earnings, but i think 2019 is going to be a good year for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:59 PM
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I read a good article the other day about our society's expectation of "productive vacationing"-- like sitting around actually doing whatever the fuck you want is not considered socially acceptable. We're sold a whole gamut of things that are supposed to relax us, and then we're confused as to why they don't "make" us relaxed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:40 PM
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me and my shareholdings in AMD agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:31 PM
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that was a lot of words to say "because it seems misogynistic"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:28 PM
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Not to mention it is extremely normal to see young men marrying late twenties/early thirties women. At least in my demographic and experience, that actually seems to be the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:40 PM
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Upvoting for "stitch and bitch".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:38 PM
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You mean ingesting a never-ending cycle of media that tells you men are your enemy is bad for relationships? INTERESTING.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:54 PM
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Who cares though. Women will complain even if everything is perfect-- gotta tune that shit out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:51 PM
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Women will never be replaced. Masturbation, will just get a whole lot better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 06:15 PM
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It's a test. Valuable men don't have many problems, just gotta have the confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 06:01 PM
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I think this is where the RP advice to "have a mission" (besides fucking girls) is very on-the-nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 03:35 PM
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I found the problem: actually caring when women whine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 03:32 PM
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You just finished quoting a study that showed dumb women having more kids, and then put the onus onto men not to impregnate them, as if there aren't also millions of very stupid men out there. I also see very smart people who are downright fucking evil, and will march over the backs of others for simple greed or short term satisfaction. I see honest blue collar people, who may not be the smartest people ever, but forward humanity in positive ways. Things aren't as cut and dry as you make them ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 03:29 PM
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gym thots are fishing with really wide nets-- tread carefully.
/r/askTRP22/09/18 04:28 PM
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no need to mourn, just get new friends because that kind of despair becomes an airborne contagion.
/r/askTRP22/09/18 03:29 PM
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Because, well, quantity beats quality. Yes, it does. Why don't you just outline your "woke" eugenics stance for us instead of dancing around it like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/18 03:23 PM
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Innocent until proven guilty. Unless we’re going to allow #metoo to become the Salem Witch Trials all over again. This is the test bed. This will be a big indicator of how much political power #metoo can wield.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/18 03:07 PM
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caring too much would be breaking frame /s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 06:40 PM
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It would be like expecting men to condone a how-to guide on collecting beta-orbiters to receive free shit and attention. It would be like women talking about how to use their sexuality to extract as many resources as possible out of a man. Men would fucking hate that talk, but it would work on almost all of them in the real world (and does).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 02:34 PM
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And there are plenty of examples of trust fund guys who go work for daddy instead of cutting their teeth in the real world. You're personalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 02:26 PM
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Your level of delusion is on par with radfems chiding the patriarchy ala "Life is great for all the guystm it's your own fault for not being in line when they handed out the 100k/year jobs for being born a male descendant of a white European."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:55 PM
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I somewhat agree with this. If your imperative requires you to win an argument, why *wouldn't* you turn a logical argument into an emotional contest, where victory is all but guaranteed? Shit, a woman can outright lose an argument by every single metric but still come out on top by triggering old comfort instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 01:33 PM
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Honestly I think it's 100% about power. Women have much more leverage in dramatic, emotional situations and they know guys hate those situations, so that create them all the time to wield control and power over a man. Rationing and logical argument have no place the woman's brain. If she's losing a battle or, god forbid, losing the attention being paid to her, she'll start some shit and make it about her emotions.
/r/askTRP25/08/18 03:28 PM
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Gotcha to what? That women complain about their periods constantly and use them to talk about how men can't handle anything? Miss me with that shit, I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 07:48 PM
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I've been told, especially about and from women seeking a lot of power, that PMS actually isn't a big deal and can pretty much be ignored. Sorry ladies, this is what respect feels like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 05:48 PM
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If one cries "he's only interested in me for sex!", one should first ask themselves: "Am I a hobby-less, complacent potato?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 07:08 PM
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See also: all of life outside of college as well. College is the thunderdome, though. Everyone's horny and drunk and the environment is liberal with xxxtra crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 04:07 PM
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You feel sorry for women with excellent careers and high standards? I don't, not even slightly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 06:04 PM
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Translation: "I'm not good enough to get a career women but I think that I should be. Therefore: oppression."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 04:29 PM
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men really blow the whole "deception" thing way out of the water. if her makeup is fooling you so much that you find her repulsive without it, that's on you. shaving one's legs is not deception, it's a social expectation. we might as well say that all haircuts of any kind are deception, clothing is deception, brushing your teeth, wearing deodorant? you're just deceiving people into thinking you smell better than you really do, you obfuscating bitch. if my wife suddenly stopped shaving her legs, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 06:23 PM
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Until her fertility becomes an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 04:37 PM
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I fully agree with your take. Though I would add that a strong man who's proven himself should still limit his vulnerable moments to maybe a few times a year. If he's really having issues, get a therapist, find a trusted guy confidant, whatever, as long as it's not whining to her all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 02:42 PM
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sexual frustration is like over-pressurizing the whole emotional system: something somewhere is going to blow out, and it could be anywhere. one of the many reasons women are wary of virgin men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:52 PM
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I do thank evolution for that. If women weren't seeking the best mates/outcomes for their offspring humanity would be doomed. It sucks for the losers, but everything sucks for the losers.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/18 07:03 PM
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Let's meet in the middle at "The working poor".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 06:59 PM
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I don't know how to say this, ah, politely? But is it possible that you're operating from your personal experience here?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 06:57 PM
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Copulation optional but recommended.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 06:53 PM
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Whats the point of even being here if you can't entertain the thought that a guy here plays soccer with his friends? I ask myself this exact question verbatim every time I visit PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 06:49 PM
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the meanest most gnarly and sociopathic (traumatized) men, Pretty much just the poor, although the venn diagram there is practically a circle so whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 06:46 PM
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Completely agree about the service people thing. Of course there are tons of examples of vets who are great role models: disciplined, hard-working, inspirational, etc. But man, I saw what the service did to three of my close friends. It's like they're broken a little bit now-- just highly cynical, apathetic, defeated. I have a lot of respect for vets, I really do, but the idea that it turns all the boys into alpha super soldiers is way off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 05:14 PM
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Change that to "we learn".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 02:08 PM
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I understand what you're saying. My wife is that way about other women having babies because she has to wait a few years to conceive. It upsets her that these other women can sneeze and get pregnant even though they're totally unprepared to be mothers and don't have their shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 02:05 PM
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I guess you referring to that bitch getting married as "winning" threw me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 06:49 PM
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Why? Don't you think individuals are capable of deciding what makes themselves happy? If I think marriage will improve my life and make me happy, no one can objectively say that is incorrect. It's fine to want to get married, but it's another thing entirely to assume that because somebody is married, therefore they are happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 04:40 PM
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I resent being constantly told my life is automatically easy because I'm a woman. Not even easier - literally just automatically a cakewalk in which I can just sit and wait for great shit to be given to me. I'm a cis white hetero male.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 03:54 PM
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The pro-marriage socialization is showing. It's rampant on PPD especially. "Oh they got married so they were successful in the dating market." I'll say it loud so hopefully it doesn't need repeating: Marriage doesn't equal success. Awful, abusive people get married all the time, often for stupid reasons. A massive proportion of marriages are failures or daily misery. I genuinely feel bad for single women who buy into the 'marriage = fairy tale happiness' story.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 03:52 PM
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If they're confidently cucking their husband they could pretty much say anything because chances are he doesn't have the spine to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 03:47 PM
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I've at least definitely seen a lot of dudes do shit to try to impress women not necessarily to get the women, but to get the status and validation of being able to get them. They seem to want someone they can show off and embarrassed to be walking around with someone they may find pretty attractive but know others wouldn't. I don't know how many dudes this is thought. I'd also say there's likely a group of men who do have a sort of "hypergamy" with looks but again I don't know what portion. i d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 02:55 PM
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When such men stray, they're lusting as part of their instinctive drives. They may cheat with another woman physically, but psychologically/emotionally, they are still connected to their partners. I think that claim is more common from women, actually. "It was just sex, I don't love him at all!" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 02:49 PM
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Capitalism is nothing more than individuals making their own economic choices free of restriction from authority, allowing themself to pursue their passions and apply their aptitudes for the sake of self-actualization, economic and otherwise. This is so starry-eyed that it reminds me of twitter socialists describing how perfect socialism is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 05:22 PM
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The views I have and share in real life reflect the views that I share online. If you don't live a double life and actually just own your shit then there are no surprises. Admittedly there are a few issues I think my wife would take issue with. I filter them slightly IRL but she knows how I feel about feminism, gender issues, etc. and her peeping here wouldn't be cataclysmic. She holds a couple of views that I disagree with as well but they aren't deal-breaking and it's stupid to squabble over t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 05:13 PM
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So kind of you to speak on behalf of all women. I'd argue that it's rare that the girl is intentionally doing that. Intentionally is the key word here. There's so much plausible deniability here that women can string guys along, getting gifts, attention, and validation the whole time and frame the whole thing as just trying to be nice. When/if it blows up all she has to do is claim ignorance which is a simple matter since we're so accustomed to women having zero agency on the dating scene. These…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 06:51 PM
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Women have a greater tendency to ask for help and get diagnosed. Men have a greater tendency to kill themselves or self-medicate. Both are mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 04:18 PM
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I think love is very conditional, more than most women will admit. Women who marry beta bux think they can look past all of these "conditions" (mediocre sex, spinelessness, soft body, etc) because he has money, and for bonus points they can virtue signal that shit into "not being shallow" but that facade only lasts so long. It runs like a corrosive thread through the relationship because she fundamentally doesn't respect him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 03:02 PM
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Women are fantastic at lying to themselves. They "love him for him" for about 2 years and then start in with the resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 03:44 PM
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People don't get married and then fast forward to the grave together. That shit goes very wrong all the time. This thread is about guys being naive and starry-eyed about their marriage fantasies and only discovering that (if they're lucky) when it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 11:18 PM
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They don't actually fuck or LTR niceguys though. Guys will marry 5-6/10's very frequently if she's adequately into him, not totally crazy, and reasonably sensible about life goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 10:50 PM
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I do what I want. I say what I want. I go where I want. I put up with zero bullshit and call out disrespect every time Mrs. Cross decides to flip some shit. And it worked. This is the most beneficial thing that the manosphere has given me (in terms of my marriage). I understand why guys are so afraid of this, afraid of pissing off their wife, afraid of being labeled a "jerk". The bottom line is it's more respectable to be stubborn and unapologetic than to be agreeable little husband wimp. I real…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 10:47 PM
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Our dog's breath smells like a fetid garbage dump despite daily brushings, regular dental work and dental treats. No freakin' way dragon breath is sleeping next to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 04:54 PM
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Marry somebody who you would consider a good roommate in addition to the other common advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 04:51 PM
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80-90% doing menial/manual labor is how it's been for all of time. What's so different about now?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 04:20 PM
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I agree, it seems absolutely crazy but it was absolutely the norm which is even crazier.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 03:25 PM
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Yeah, I'm recognizing how dated this view is. My parents' generation all got married at like 20-23 so that goes to show how much things have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 03:10 PM
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Liberal women, yes, but tradcon women aren't thrilled at the prospect (excuse the pun).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 02:42 PM
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I was always under the impression that if you waited too long to get married (say, more than 3 years), it was a red flag for the relationship? Maybe that's just my blue pill upbringing, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 02:39 PM
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"You think life on dry land is tough?! Go live in the ocean you privileged little shits!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 02:34 PM
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Life is so good for women in America that marching/blogging about their inconveniences is literally a hobby born out of idle hands and idle minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 02:31 PM
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I've just noticed it more in my little corner of media consumption, that's all. I'm against all this B.S., for the record, just wanted to hear input on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 08:49 PM
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And the sweet boys thing has been tried since the 90's, when men were told to get in touch with their feminine sides and when young boys were not allowed to act rough and tumble. Now you have millennial hipster numales. Want more of the same? I agree. I think it has a lot to do with less dominant (or less, period) fathers on the scene, and women raising their sons to be ideal future boyfriends. As to the anxiety present in young girls: cart, horse, whatever, I think the simplest and most effecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 07:34 PM
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I think the writer is confusing femininity with female hypoagency. Women will frequently turn into innocent little children when they need something (usually difficult) done for them. Porch needs to be repaired? Lawn needs to be cut? The sink is leaking? Here come the pouty eyes, the "I never learned that stuff", the "well I guess we'll hire somebody to do it but that's gonna be soooo expensive but if you really don't want to try we have no choice." Yeah that shit's a performance, and annoying. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 04:55 PM
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I guess the thing that bothers me about these debates is that men view a woman deciding to raise a child alone as if she were getting away with murder. It's so much worse than raising a child without a present father (and potentially much worse than not having a child at all). I don't think deciding to raise a child alone is ever an easy one. It's funny that even MRA guys get caught up in the single mother sainthood status. Make no mistake-- it's a shitty, shitty situation to be in even with all…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 04:03 PM
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Same. It felt like everything was on the line before, now it's just for the little ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 03:53 PM
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We have much more immediate threats in terms of extinction. Nuclear holocaust and artificial super intelligence, to name two.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 03:33 PM
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You could argue that, as a result, the offspring of intelligent and cautious people will wield much more influence and power in their adulthood-- we're just stuck with this annoying "every life is sacred" empathy problem where everybody is roped into taking care of everyone else's children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 03:30 PM
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This thread is so interesting. TRP exists *because* so many guys are failing outright. Yet, we have tons of evidence of people who go read TRP, come back with some crazy MRA victimhood stuff and then decide that no actually men are doing better than wammenz and we need to hate on wammenz some more. It's such anathema to actual TRP philosophy which is yes, the average modern man is pathetic. However, that's good news, because that makes the bar more achievable for men willing to actually put fort…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 03:04 PM
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they still get stuck in the "need experience to get hired, need to get hired to get experience" loop like so many.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 02:53 PM
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Posting in Automod because I actually agree with Jammerly. The majority of men are losers and not worth committing to. Particularly lately, it's become a pandemic of "failure to launch" types that simply can't cut it in the Feminist world. They just give up and live in a video-game fueled fantasy land. Hardly anyone my age knows how to build anything, swing a hammer, or fix up a house. It's all hired out to baby boomers. But isn't that obvious? You should only be committing to the 1 in 50 guy th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:04 PM
5

Not necessarily. Even lots of men of my generation who had strong, present father figures are going all soft because of the availability of video games and a sedentary lifestyle. It's just so damn easy to be lazy and non-confrontational. Feminism has scores of men convinced that they should be raising their sons to be niceguys/white knights/submissive husbands because that's what women have told them they should be, and lots of those guys had good father-son relationships growing up. I think the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:38 PM
1

I agree with you. It's usually borderline incels who marry 4/10's for the sex and live a life of misery trying to keep her pleased. I see it ALL the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:25 PM
8

I still have trouble talking to attractive women even though I'm married and don't care anymore whether other women find me attractive or not. I've got some news for you-- it sounds like you do care, but there's nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:10 PM
8

Most people in general are brimming with abusive, self-centered, garbage behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 01:28 PM
3

It's not like they've had no sex ever. Did you know that a feature of the male sex drive is still wanting sex even though they've had it recently? It's not like a piece of art that you buy at the the gallery and say "Yes okay I have that now, good".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 01:27 PM
3

I agree. Marriage being pushed down the road has a lot to do with income-- particularly it being lower than in the past, relatively speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 01:20 PM
10

I think it's also about feeling the the guy can be their (and their children's) protector.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 06:44 PM
1

I think we have different scenarios in mind. In your head the man is groveling and treating his woman like a queen to try to "earn" sex. In my head, that phase played out years ago and it's simply a dead bedroom scenario. She's not attracted to him anymore and takes everything out on him out of resentment. She dangles sex in front of him even though they have it maybe twice a year. She jokes about sleeping with other guys (and maybe does), she blames all of their problems on him in her head, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:33 PM
5

I'm not drawing conclusions any more than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 12:47 AM
1

Bad example, they got filthy rich doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 12:45 AM
1

If that were true, they wouldn't have that Machiavellian penchant for finding great "beta bux" husbands that TRP loves to dissect into 30-page blogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 07:28 PM
1

Maybe skip that part. Overcoming fear is possibly the most important lesson to be learned in the human experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 07:15 PM
2

Men (and women) erroneously believe such garbage as happy wife happy life, if mamma ain't happy ain't nobody happy, "gotta ask the boss" and thus actively work to manage their wife's emotions to a baseline of happy, which coincidentally doesn't make her nor anyone else happy. This mindset is pervasive in our society and only fringe elements such as T/MRP provide a framework counter to it. There is so much truth to this. It's really idiotic to tie 100% of your happiness to another person, even if…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 07:13 PM
2

If the guy owns a 'vette, there's a better chance that he's paying alimony. But I agree, it's not very common for us ground people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 07:10 PM
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You can treat a dog like shit and it will stick around because at a fundamental level the dog considers the alternative to be death. The same phenomenon exists in humans, especially if they have deeply buried fears rooted in childhood trauma. Playing somebody's shit against them is abuse and it's not always the other person's fault for not leaving. Note, I'm not actually trying to compare women to dogs, just trying to demonstrate primal fears.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 07:08 PM
1

A woman's sexuality is her most potent and effective form of transactional power. Women naturally start to rely on sex as a bargaining chip because it's so damn effective and effortless. If a wife fails to bargain or negotiate with things other than sex, she will eventually bargain with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 07:03 PM
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I agree. Although it will be interesting to see what happens when lots of girls fail at things. More risk = higher chance of failure. My primary complaint about these types of highlights is that we talk about how men will generally achieve higher because they're willing to take more risks-- but we don't talk about the guys who took huge risks and failed. Conveniently forgotten. We need to be raising girls to be unafraid and accepting of failure (something that plenty of men consistently struggle…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 06:57 PM
1

It's a bit of a chicken and egg scenario when we're talking about hypertrophy versus strength training. Ideally a person will end up bouncing between the two. Generally speaking though, you're right that volume should come first. Grow your muscles larger and then spend some time teaching those larger muscles to generate maximal force.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/18 06:53 PM
2

There's actually a swelling movement in Feminism to raise girls to be less risk-averse, and to be "brave" the way boys are encouraged to be. Do you think this will help or hurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 06:50 PM
1

Female wooks that think they're so wise but actually just did too much acid and now they're a little stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 05:33 PM
2

I think men are just flat out better at these difficult things. Man sacrifices himself on the job or in the war, woman sacrifices herself raising the family. That was the old way. I think we hear more complaints because women want the choice of having a full-blown career but also the option of child-rearing, and it's oppressive that they have to choose (at least to some degree). I think men are just better at most jobs and at accruing resources. I think women are better at nurturing kids. We can…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 05:25 PM
2

Nobody's forcing. If women want to have sex, yes, they need to be attractive to men. Play the game to get the prizes. Women are welcome to be celibate and look however they goddamn please if it suits them. This is not patriarchal oppression. Nobody is owed sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 05:52 PM
2

I think you drastically underestimate a woman's willingness to undermine and sabotage other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 05:46 PM
5

this is where the fat acceptance part comes in /s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 05:44 PM
2

It baffles me that so many people hamster away at the fact the society holds mothers in better esteem than fathers. This isn't surprising, not even a tiny bit. Love for men is *always* contingent on their ability to provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 05:40 PM
14

"Man up" aka "Your problems are annoying to me and I'd rather not hear about them."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 05:29 PM
2

Thanks, it's been a rollercoaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 04:00 PM
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It doesn't always take years and years to go through some shit-- my wife got diagnosed with cancer less than a month after we tied the knot. I do agree with you, though. It's a bit fucked up, but in our situation I'm kind of glad this happened now before kids are in the mix and while we're still in our newlywed phase. I really don't know how people play caretaker for somebody if they've grown to resent them-- must be hard not to suffocate them with that pillow.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 03:49 PM
1

Women talk a strong game about how they don't need no man with their kids, but a true single mother is the absolute lowest status for a woman and most of them are absolutely miserable. Not stated enough. I think the whole heroic status we place on single motherhood is out of pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 05:08 PM
1

But what you gonna do, put SSRIs in the drinking water? I'm sure there are good number of people who think this is a fine idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 01:11 PM
2

You don't even have to "stay friends" if you can just manage to separate without viscerally hating the other person. I have a "professional" relationship with my ex because we do end up running into each other sometimes we both just have an understanding that the past is the past. Say hi and have some pleasantries but we don't go beyond surface level at all and things are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 07:55 PM
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Workplace dating is inevitable, so we might as well speak in terms of harm reduction. Follow company policy about disclosing romances, and have a safe place to land (up to and including changes in employment) if the whole thing blows up. We hear "don't shit where you eat" from a lot of Red Pills because their strategies almost always involve emotional abuse/neglect. Can't really ghost someone very well if they work a few cubicles over. That being said my best friend met his now wife at work and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 07:34 PM
5

Apart from genetic outliers, being unusually strong takes a lot of character and discipline. The average strength athlete has a huge amount of character.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 07:27 PM
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MGTOW is one of those things that is waaaay better in theory than it is in practice. Don't like the game? That's fine, you don't have to play. It's the part where they share loudly about how much they hate the game and how women are awful that makes them despicable. Imagine sitting next to someone at a baseball game who just talks about how awful they think baseball is-- that's how I feel about MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 06:33 PM
1

Also you end up having more energy. For 5+ years I told myself I was too tired to go to the gym. Now I go every weekday at lunch and have more energy than before. This was my experience, too. I never touched the gym until I was 26 (and did the whole crab bucket thing of putting down guys who did, said it was for idiots, etc, etc.). 4 years later and I can't imagine my life without it. It also creates opportunities to form healthy friendships with other men. Effort in the gym spills over into the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 04:56 PM
1

The height thing usually just comes down to women not wanting to be taller than their SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 04:48 PM
3

Exactly. Online dating is just about casting a huge net and hoping a nice fish swims in. Might as well be upfront.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 01:33 PM
1

But there is some parity in that if you find out your partner didn't orgasm, it's seen as an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 01:29 PM
1

That's cool, everyone is different though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 01:28 PM
1

They'll keep preaching this until women are, in fact, paid 25% more than men (and I'll be surprised if they stop there-- "it's reparations!"). Feminism hasn't been about equality for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 01:06 PM
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Don't listen to what this MAN has to say. Go chew your parents' out, they probably deserve it! Grrrrl power!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 01:01 PM
1

sure but that's why women feel pressure to pretend to have an orgasm, cuz men are really sensitive to this. but men hear these stories and go "lying bitch". Reverse the roles and you'll see that most women are also sensitive to this. Sex, but the guy didn't orgasm? She feels insecure, unattractive, asks if she did something wrong etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 12:51 PM
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You're just not taking her seriously because she's a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 11:01 PM
4

I think the U.S.A. is beyond the point of being able to make that happen. We're on a false throne and quite honestly that shit's going to happen inevitably because our education system is a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 10:10 PM
2

I'll die fighting first.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 08:10 PM
2

I grew up on the classics (golden age final fantasy, star ocean, shining force, etc.). Best recent title I've played is Divinity 2. The more tactical the better, although lately I've been ditching video games for tabletop games since so many people my age are getting into them right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 07:16 PM
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I meant it as role-playing games (which is how I relax) but I realize it could be taken to mean a lot of things. I made it when I joined and never really thought to change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 06:43 PM
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Powerlifting (working toward 300 bench, 500 squat, 600 dead atm), and remodeling my house in anticipation of renting it out. I'm saving cash and planning to buy when the housing market crashes again. Also, my wife is still going through cancer treatment, so some stuff is a bit on hold for me to be a supporter/caretaker-- she just finished chemo a few weeks ago, though, so she's been "back" lately. I did just grab a raise and promotion at work, too, so that's going well. Mission is not really tie…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 06:29 PM
2

Yeah don't care. I don't see the need for a ever-growing population except for the shitty safety-net systems that we made based on people spawning huge numbers of babies. The shift might sting but I'll just make in good enough with my predecessors to inherit what I need.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 06:20 PM
1

All women are generally seen as morally superior to men, it shouldn't surprise you that this characteristic extends to uggos.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 05:36 PM
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Is it up to "society" to get everyone laid, though? Maybe I'm crazy but I don't feel like less people having sex is something to sound the alarm over.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 05:34 PM
1

It's just gathering evidence that it's not her fault, for her to use when she goes and talks her girlfriends' ears off about how much of a jerk you are.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/18 04:03 PM
1

It's been stated innumerable times on this sub that, for women at least, one contributes to the other. Generally speaking, positivity is more attractive to most.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 03:15 PM
1

Well optimism is more attractive so maybe it's self-determining in a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 02:31 PM
1

It's like "ass or chest" or "cake or pie" like really it's all good, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 02:30 PM
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I grew up thinking if a woman is upset, it's because I did something wrong and I HAD to fix it I think this is a very common issue with men. A lot of people don't realize that the *need* to fix problems for a woman stems from a lack of respect and the innate belief that she cannot solve problems on her own. Ironically the male feminist and blue pill types tend to suffer the worst from this-- treating women like princesses and bending over backwards while the women roll their eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 03:38 PM
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I feel bad for the guys I know that are actually named Chad-- they didn't ask for any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 02:47 PM
1

20, no RP. Purple pill. It was a very unexciting lay after having dated a girl for a few months. Second time was much better, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 01:40 PM
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Initiating is not the same as approaching, and it's disingenuous to suggest that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 01:33 PM
1

Well everybody is adding asterisks to their own beliefs in the current climate. Lots of the Feminists of yester-decade loathe to be lumped in with the new wave of radfem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 03:03 PM
4

Please, they would never engage in such primitive language. They're all scholars, remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 01:04 PM
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> You'll need to list some blue pill ideas, I catch myself utterly unable to define "blue pill" as anything besides the denial of RP, and as such, I agree to none of it. True, but as an analogy you could say that being Pro-Life started simply by being anti-abortion. But that doesn't fully encapsulate "Pro-Life", does it? Those people have spent some time discussing why they agree with each other and reinforcing their positions on other issues. There are plenty of people who are "anti-abortion" w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 01:02 PM
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The willingness to even discuss Red Pill ideology pretty much requires one to be "more red" than most of Reddit. Your average feminist would read some standard RP stuff and wouldn't even engage, just condemn.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 04:15 AM
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To finish the thought, I think that women would actually be extremely disturbed and upset if a man sincerely wanted to steal their poop.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 05:21 PM
1

Lots of examples here of how fine people are with blaming (admittedly dimwitted) men for a woman's premeditated and heinous actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 05:20 PM
3

This is why I still hang around PPD. Occasionally the conversations are just so entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 05:13 PM
1

Twitter, usually by female humorists. Also whoever said women aren't funny hasn't given twitter a chance, holy hell there are some funny ladies out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 06:07 PM
3

What do you mean by male pair bonding?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 06:05 PM
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I think there needs to be some sort of revenge fantasy or malignant narcissism to stick around Red Pill. Some people get obsessed with trying to gain status within that community, as well. You also need to be able to stomach continuous, grotesque misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 06:04 PM
1

Some people love drama, and will stick around to bask in it even if it's stressful. Also, some of these types actually think they're defending something virtuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 05:59 PM
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From a guy who fell upon TRP with fresh eyes a few years ago-- they talk about oneitis and the danger of falling in love (because naturally do, all the time, and it's often problematic) right off the bat and all the time. This was one of the first concepts I remember reading and is definitely one of their core values. You won't find a unicorn, AWALT, etc., etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 05:55 PM
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Maybe I've just specified my social media to be this way, but saying "men are trash" isn't really considered fine anymore and is usually said tongue-in-cheek or with a sense of irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 07:37 PM
6

I'm reading more and more mainstream articles talking about "chads" and "stacies" and it's so funny to see the reactions to TRP's little code words.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 07:12 PM
1

So I question the way society views drugs. We think pharmaceuticals are okay because "hey, it comes from a doctor" even though drugs like benzos are worse to come off than heroin. Intentional obfuscation of facts by the people profiting. People automatically trust their docs, and even with middle-aged people getting hooked on opiates/benzos late in life at epidemic rates, we still gobble up anything written on a prescription pad. Depression meds are the worst of the bunch, I know way too many pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 06:02 PM
2

I'm a 4-years-sober alcoholic who also used to smoke lots of weed and I believe everything should be decriminalized-- people should be completely left alone in regards to drug use unless they are actively harming others. I was raised in an anti-drug, anti-alcohol religious bubble and I believe it contributed greatly to my inability to use substances in a responsible matter. End the stigma, let people do what they want. I'm still friends with plenty of drug-users and drinkers and it doesn't bothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 05:50 PM
1

If a woman doesn't like/respect a man for whatever reason, she will invoke this as a basis for being unhappy. If she still likes/respect him, this isn't a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 04:34 PM
5

> If you "open up" you're playing her game -- a game you're sure to lose. This is where I depart from TRP. One of my main gripes is that they turn everything, absolutely everything into a power struggle/"game" and it's dehumanizing to everyone involved. I prefer the attitude of dealing with your own shit because that's what a respectable man does, and leaving it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 04:30 PM
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Everybody wants guys to be more emotionally available (this includes the guy himself), but men are relentlessly punished for doing so. u/whitebunny87 has a prime example of the difference. Women don't really need to hear about all of your problems (this is called whining), but they want know enough to be sure that you like/trust them. If I have actual emotional strife, there are other resources available to me: I have some support groups I frequent or I can go chat with my therapist. Men should …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 03:06 PM
5

Plenty of alpha males in prison, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 02:24 PM
3

Everyone settles, and everyone projects their morals and/or regrets onto younger people. It's the circle of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 02:22 PM
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This is why the Red Pill prescription of keeping your damn feelings to yourself is good advice. Women say they want men to open up with their emotions/problems/issues but when you do it only loses you respect or gets weaponized against you. This is where a woman will chime in and say it's men doing it to other men or some other such deflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 02:19 PM
2

My wife did this with social work. Average burnout for a CPS case worker is about a year though, so she at least surpassed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 06:45 PM
2

It makes more sense than the reasons men love women, I'll give them that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 06:39 PM
2

I agree, this article is trying to adjust public opinion to make this punishable, that's the point. It's not going to succeed, mostly because enough people call it out as bullshit. Got to keep these weeds culled back or they grow, and while this one got pulled, another one has gone to seed in the corner, that's how social change happens. #MeToo went to seed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 06:33 PM
1

Yes post-wall women still have better odds than your average lonely schmuck. I present Exhibit A: Male Suicide Rate under 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 03:26 PM
2

So asking the yes/no question of whether he was arrested doesn't account for other forms of punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 03:23 PM
3

People in this thread keep talking about laws as if that's all that matters. Discrimination exists despite laws. A black person is less likely to be hired even though that's technically outlawed; illegal ageism gets people forced out of the workplace all the time; being the wrong ethnicity can make it very hard to find housing. Laws only govern peoples' behavior to a certain reasonable extent. It's so weird that women suddenly invoke the criminal justice system when it applies to men's sexuality…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 03:20 PM
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The court of public opinion is actually a thing (see: #metoo). Although admittedly this article seems like ragebait.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 03:10 PM
2

It comes from both directions in the lower class because the guy is also poor. If a middle class relationship actually goes south the guy is much more likely to be fine with paying it because it won't affect his lifestyle much-- A poorer man might be looking at a second job and/or unsurmountable financial hurdles.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 07:18 PM
2

Accidentally. Feminism is actually very anti-feminine in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 07:04 PM
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I genuinely don't understand how calling an actress hot/attractive is sexism. Forget double standards, this is a stupid standard in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 03:53 PM
1

it's especially useful when you're really worried about offending people and/or keeping some precious self-image intact.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 06:00 PM
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> you will be labelled a whore You mean like when my wife asks me to call her my little whore? Because I don't see how that's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 03:37 PM
1

Once Feminism is in its final form and all women are injecting testosterone for the competitive edge we might see a shift but until then women control the Pavlovian sex stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 03:33 PM
4

bout tree fiddy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 03:28 PM
6

They can dance if they want to-- they can leave their friends behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 02:41 PM
1

I think the problem you're talking about is also very relevant to men. This is the reason that young people are having less sex. I'll bet inceldom rises with video game use. I think out-of-control media consumption is responsible for most of the problems in the dating market. Shit, I'm 30 and it staggers me how few men my age know how to fix anything (besides a computer). Doesn't help that we live in a throwaway age where it's less expensive to buy a new whatever than to fix something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 02:37 PM
1

Dancing is a challenge of confidence, bodily control, the ability to "let go", to be in tune with your own body. Kind of like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 02:31 PM
2

Yeah I guess the spiritual-not-religious type comes to mind because is so trendy among "woke" people. Also a huge overlap with the awfully toxic casual dating scene (see also: polyamory, MUST be 420-friendly, "time is, like, a construct", love is my religion, etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 07:01 PM
2

Also seems prevalent among self-described "spiritual" types. People who say they meditate and feel compassion toward all living things and then treat their friends like dog shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 06:52 PM
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Plus the laydee person is just this blank slate who watches the man person do stuff and she gets a couple of free drinks. Welcome to Red Pill, land of the narcissists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 02:21 PM
7

It's not though, because you're being pump and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 01:52 PM
9

Not every shy, nervous STEM husband gets promoted up the company and gets more fit. Some stay in dead end jobs, get lost in porn and video games and stay skinnyfat forever. Consider yourself lucky. I would compare marrying early to buying a stock that's very nascent on the market. You've made a killing by putting your faith into it early, but it also could've sank in the water. Risk vs. reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 01:30 PM
10

This is absolutely a male fantasy, it reads like homoerotic fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 01:24 PM
1

I'll add that to my consent document right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 01:17 PM
3

I think this has something to do with it. I also think that women find men acting helpless to be completely revolting, so the world hears about it a lot because everyone loves to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 05:01 PM
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Men often exaggerate the difficulty of a task, job, or responsibility in order to inflate their own sense of importance or accomplishment. It's the classic situation of the husband making it seem like the company would collapse without him, that it's all on this shoulders-- when the reality is he's the most replaceable person in the workplace. As to answering the wrong question: I think answering for your own gender is more helpful? I know what I exaggerate better than I know what a woman exagge…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 06:14 PM
1

Yes, we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 04:20 PM
5

Then nature is also why men view women as interchangeable sex objects. Not excusing either, of course, just stating for the sake of parity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 03:12 PM
2

It's not about goalposts so much as conflating wage gap and earnings gap and leaving out data, intentionally or unintentionally. Everyone's not guilty of it, of course, but there are so many warriors out there who just say "less pay for the same work" ad nauseum to push a political agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 03:10 PM
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It's not uncommon for men to enjoy this sort of subjugation. It's a misconception that women pussywhip men-- they pussywhip themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 06:38 PM
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Me and my wife are working class and did embryo freezing prior to chemotherapy and even with livestrong footing a third of the bill it was a major, MAJOR kick in the balls (about 9k, when all was said and done). We're insured. That's only to harvest and freeze, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 04:28 PM
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World record was recently set at approx 20 years in the freezer, iirc. Edit: 24 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 04:25 PM
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Combination of A and B is probably the best response, but honestly this seems like a pretty rare situation. This guy is looking for a fight. In my situation though my wife would probably have her hands around his neck before I could think of anything clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 01:53 PM
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Most people are more interested in things they are naturally good at. Shocking news.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 01:26 PM
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Kind of a chicken-and-egg situation. They both snowball off each other, I agree. Ideally the woman should allow a little bit of grace for a man who's not performing great at all times, and the man should have some tolerance for some reasonable nagging. Otherwise it will cause a runaway effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 01:22 PM
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Women have more emotional intelligence than men, and men have more physical strength than women (generally speaking). Men shut down during arguments because they invariably become purely about emotion and the woman will usually win. Men hate losing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 01:12 PM
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In some (older? I am sorry, but I cannot find it anymore) thread here there was explained that protection is directed downwards man -> woman -> child while respectful love is directed upwards child -> woman -> man This is the answer to your "question". If the man isn't directing protection downward, she won't direct respectful love upward. Women don't nag (or not not nearly as much) men that they still respect. Not wanting to look after a man-child is one of the most common complaints I hear fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 01:10 PM
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You could call anybody entitled for wanting professional and familial fulfillment at the same time. Turns out there's not enough time in the day, or days in a year, or years in a lifetime to do both properly. Doesn't stop us from trying. And before somebody says "yeah but guys can do that", it may appear that way but most of the men with kind of careers I'm talking about don't see their children nearly enough and their kids identify it later in life with a therapist about how dad was never aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 01:06 PM
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I can't fault you because that sounds like 95% of white women close to my age that I've ever met.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 05:42 PM
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mfw when i was doing this on a cloudy night. fuckin fine print, i'll tell ya
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 05:21 PM
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Thank you for iterating what was basically my position talking to u/LewisCross in the other thread. These terms are more constrictive than anything and lead guys astray more often than help. My friend described himself as "alpha" because he bought a gun without his wife's permission-- but in every interaction they have together it's glaringly obvious she holds all the power and dominance. Redpill "aware" men are some of the worst examples of "alpha" that I've ever witnessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 04:44 PM
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Yes a blend is preferred.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 04:39 PM
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It only takes a couple of those. Honestly most women would be over the fucking moon to have a husband who stacks cash and treats her and the kids like royalty. That's more than a lot of marriages can claim. "Beta traits" just gets conflated with asexual/incel/omega traits way too often around here, that's the point I'm going for. People get confused because these admirable qualities don't result in sex. So they're seen as qualities to actively avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 04:03 PM
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If you’re in a good relationship, you’re probably getting regular sex. That's a common lie guys in dead bedrooms tell themselves. You might as well say that because you do the dishes 50% of the time it's implied y'all are banging on the reg. I'm not saying it hurts, but there's so much more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 02:49 PM
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Every man is a propriety blend. Beta traits are not bad! <-- This point is lost almost as a rule at this point. Beta traits are amazing and honorable, etc. They just don't inspire lust in women. Beta men are fantastic relationship material. If you find a beta man with enough alpha traits to give you the tingles, I'd say that's rare enough to hold onto.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 02:45 PM
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Yes. Smoking is a good example. For some people, expecting someone to quit smoking is unreasonable and unrealistic. Others will be ok with somebody smoking with the expectation that they'll someday quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 02:41 PM
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username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 06:01 PM
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Do you buy every stock on the stock market because there's a chance it will go up? Now imagine you can only put your money into one stock at any given time. You're going to research the hell out of it, and be on the look out for the best possible prospect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 04:08 PM
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I do so with regularity but it does tend to happen more if she's fresh out of the bath. Why? It's fun, we both get a lot out of it, and she's more enthusiastic when returning the favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 02:52 PM
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That's a little direct, IMO, but yes it usually manifests as a "alright kid, you have 2 months to get a job and move out" aka kick them out of the nest and hope they can fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 02:47 PM
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I agree, I think it's just become far easier to get away with being a pudgy basement dweller, sustaining oneself with fake friends/achievements (video games) and fake sex (porn). Stir in a healthy dose of it's-not-my-fault-ism and you get many of the current generation of males. White knighting becomes their only sexual strategy and they even convince themselves that they deserve a woman. It has nothing to do with being denied some secret knowledge and everything to do with embracing mediocrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 02:34 PM
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This is a sub about sexual dynamics in the dating marketplace. If you want actual responses from fathers, go to a parenting sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 02:27 PM
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I don't care if she goes through a cc/slutty/casual sex phase, as long as she ends up a decent person. The world is more cruel toward ugliness than sluttiness, IMO. Also I want her to attract a husband that's at least top 50% and that's not going to happen with the ugliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 01:52 PM
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Solipsism. Women also don't want a guy who's faking alpha traits, they want the guy to be a "natural" alpha. Ideally we'd all value self-improvement and things like overcoming addiction or achieving a massive weight loss or working through difficult mental health issues. Instead we see them as red flags and behaviors that a person is likely to revert back to when times get tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 03:48 PM
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The only way matriarchal society would work is if men kept doing all the work they're already doing and funneling it to women, but without feeling like they're funneling it to women or working against their will. Wait a minute...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 03:41 PM
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> there would be no wars Evidence? I see women fight all the time. I see women who claim to be friends with each other backstab and undermine each other with absolute vitriol. You think these things would go away just because a women has more power?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 03:34 PM
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TRP men juggle multiple women with low self-esteem, and then use those women to make generalizations about all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 03:28 PM
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> no one is truly happy. No one. That's a bit of overreach, in my opinion. Though, the happiest people don't feel the need to constantly grab social status so you don't hear as much from them. An oldie but goodie: "A sign of a good relationship is that it's not constantly on Facebook." <-- Although instagram seems to be the platform for this lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 02:53 PM
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Sometimes. Guy's don't get auto-resented they just get lost respect. Different emotional situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 02:48 PM
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Pretty much impossible to know if anyone is a true friend Yeah, loneliness seems to be a big issue. Feeling alone even though you always have a crowd of people vying for your attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 01:20 PM
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No, the biggest problem in the dating world is people with massive senses of entitlement thinking that they deserve the same "perfect" relationships they see their friends supposedly achieving on their fake-ass social media profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 12:42 PM
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There are downsides but you if you complain about them everybody will resent you. Better to just keep it to oneself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 12:35 PM
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See also: the genuine problems of having too much money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 12:31 PM
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Wherein we simultaneously hear that we live in a rape culture and rape is taken too lightly, etc, etc. But a man should be able to shrug off a rape accusation like it's no big deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 12:30 PM
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"Alpha" is a comparative term. There will always be top guys. Flip the question around and make all women super models and guys will still nitpick over perceived flaws and have their top picks-- it's human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 06:07 PM
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Hey I'm INTJ and I wouldn't care if you... wait... ok never mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 02:52 AM
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Because everyone is 200% more accomplished and impressive on the internet than they are IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 04:52 PM
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The damage is done before the accusation is thrown out. Is it a good metric to judge the damage done to a person by whether it will affect them in their retirement years? Don't worry about your family looking at you sideways and that career that just went off the rails, nobody's gonna care when you're a month from being dead! I can't believe this is seriously your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 04:46 PM
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An accusation is enough to ruin a person's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 04:31 PM
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Two blackout drunk people and the woman climbs on top and rides away — she’s the one people will find most culpable. No, because people will say if he wasn't consenting his dick wouldn't be hard. I wish I was joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 04:05 PM
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Generally speaking, the woman decides this. Sometimes in the moment, sometimes the next day, sometimes the next decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 04:03 PM
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You missed the part where this was a non-serious joke reply poking fun at the commonly held belief that men looking to fulfill their sexual imperative should just "get" the signals women put out in regards to sex, and then applying that to the female sexual imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 10:09 PM
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Wow. Women should just "get" this stuff. I mean, if you can't pick up on the subtle clues about what makes a reliable, devout husband and father, you must have poor womanly instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 03:03 PM
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Need me an ethical slut. Wait... is that the answer she's looking for? An ethical slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 02:56 PM
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> I always noticed guys being pretty tight with one another and picking back up where they left off even after years apart. Probably my favorite thing about male friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 02:43 PM
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Women don't tell each other to lower their standards cause our friendships are all about telling each other how great we are. Maybe my 1 or 2 best friends I would tell them if they were batting above their weight, but anyone else you just go along with it. Men are never exposed to the advice shared between two very close, very honest friends. All they see is the billboard-level general advice. Women know where their league is, and if they don't they figure it out pretty quickly and readjust. I p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 02:38 PM
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If your needs are better met elsewhere, and you do not feel obliged by society, what exactly is the union for? My friends don't know every tiny detail about my life, either. I also don't want to fuck them. I also want children. I also want to share resources. I also have good experiences within my family with marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 02:32 PM
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That's definitely a thing, but do you disagree with the premise? It seems that the woman-to-woman advice of never lower your standards, grrrl, you deserve the best is more likely to end with felines. Maybe if instead of saying "lower your standards" people said "be realistic" or "date in your league, oh by the way this is your league"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 01:13 PM
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Well the University of Winchester is a joke. A thirty person survey is now considered a study? Hold on I'm gonna go publish a study at my lunch break this afternoon. In my experience, those "secrets" that I'll tell my close male friends and not my wife are usually about my marriage and relating to other men about their experiences in their marriages. People seem to have this weird idea that your significant other needs to know every tiny detail about you and needs to be your bestest buddy all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 01:09 PM
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I think this is targeted at 29-32 year old women who, if they are looking for marriage, should do it soon before their looks and fertility start to fade. Nobody's going to tell a little 22 year old hottie to lower her standards because she'll just laugh at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 12:41 PM
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But you see way more men settling for a less attractive wife. Guys are much more willing to date down and pretty much everyone here agrees on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 12:36 PM
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More birth control is always better. Too many humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 04:25 PM
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it was the creator's intent to have women doing the approaching-- she said as much in an interview on NPR a few months ago
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 05:16 AM
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TIL the best way to de-sexualize breasts is to discuss why they're sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 05:12 AM
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I think people are having trouble grasping the concept of being able to feel an emotion without expressing it outwardly. That's the difference between meditation and letting your emotions run their course and die a natural death versus bottling them up and stuffing them down until they burst out violently or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 07:29 PM
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Don't forget that other men leave loser men to die as well. The part of supposed male privilege that always gets left out is the part where if you're bad at it, you're left to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 07:06 PM
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the 50+% of millennial women who report earning more than their partners Can you please pass this on to the earnings gap zealots.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 07:04 PM
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I think we're in one of those "Big 'S' or little 's'?" situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 04:27 PM
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Beautifully written but missing one crucial point: The role that men play in toxic masculinity. Get a group of us in a room and you would think "Okay, the women are gone, we can share our feelings now". But that's not the case, is it? If anything it gets *worse* as we try to one-up each other and have our contests of who gives less of a fuck and trying to poke holes in each others' exteriors.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 04:23 PM
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The ironic thing is, most guys don't want obligatory sex in the first place-- or at least they don't want it to *seem* like obligatory sex. This is why nice guys and incels don't pick up a prostitute and forget about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:11 PM
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mostly what these nice guys want is a transparency of what females actually want in exchange for sex. And they're never going to get it because that's where all of a woman's intersexual power comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:08 PM
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Yeah and is spending the rest of her time getting a fucking PHD and finding high-level career work. Nothing wrong with that. In fact it is highly commendable and a rare catch. It really feels like you're fishing for the answer you want and not getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 06:57 PM
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I should clarify, she volunteered on top of her other job and got that offer. She's been employed since I've been with her, though she's undergoing cancer treatment which has kept her at home for most of the past six months (hence the volunteering and stuff). It would take a lot for me to regret marrying her. Cancer has been very difficult (not going to lie) but even with all of that I'm happily married.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 06:49 PM
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My parents have financially supported each other during career moves, life events, or economic recessions and it's always been temporary and beneficial in the long run. It's a massive advantage of a healthy marriage over flying solo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 06:45 PM
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My wife just had a job *created* for her while volunteering. If I had chosen to marry someone uneducated and unemployable, though, sure-- that's a ton of effort and that means a lot. Would be a different story if she hadn't tried at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 06:27 PM
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Yes, within reason. If she was demonstrating apathy/laziness over a long period of time though that would be a cause for concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 06:19 PM
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Wow, suggesting divorce over such a thing is pretty ridiculous. That aside, given my situation, I would be open to moving, but that might be different if we had kids with established schools and friends. I have solid employment in a high-demand field so I could easily find a job elsewhere, but the decision wouldn't be easy, and she might have to deal with a small period of unemployment from me. I guess it would mainly depend on where we're moving, but I've always had a bit of an itch to move awa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 05:48 PM
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Millennials have the benefit of watching the boomers squirm around in their crises. We saw what holding onto that union job for 30 years does to a person. They have lots of money, sure, but those lost years can't be bought back.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 02:03 PM
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Thats why you don't see as much about 'toxic femininity'. Not because being a woman is seen as better, but the opposite. Yes a woman might try and appear more feminine (predominantly physically, but stuff like giggling as well) in an attempt to attract men, and not having certain feminine traits may create disdain for a woman in terms of purely her attractiveness, but for the most part being 'like a woman' is seen as inferior, so women are less likely to attempt to be 'like a woman' to destructi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 01:54 PM
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I don’t care what people do sexually Sorry Jam but you post more about what you think men are doing wrong sexually than any other person on this sub-- this simply isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 06:55 PM
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This sub makes me happy to be off the dating market. In other news, my experience with adding a wedding ring to my finger has shown me that pre-selection is most certainly real.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 04:25 PM
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List of PPD-endorsed first date questions: - How many men have you slept with? - How much money do you have? - Are you willing to sign a pre-nup? - Will you leave me the minute a taller, more fit, richer man comes along? - Are you willing to get paternity tests when we have kids? I'm not about to get cucked like that. - Do you have daddy issues? - Are you into horses?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 04:19 PM
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We have to be emotional or we'll shoot up schools and other public areas to prove that we're still men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 06:39 PM
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Thank god, because Ford cars are pieces of shit with smaller pieces of shit for transmissions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 06:37 PM
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That's because they're not jokes. They just talk about drinking wine in the afternoon being the only reason they don't drown their children in the bathtub and hahaha we all have a good laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 04:44 PM
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The rich vs. poor dynamic will always eclipse the man vs. woman dynamic because how rich you are correlates far more positively with your influence than your gender does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 04:41 PM
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There's one thing that makes you a "good" actor-- the ability to make other people rich by attracting an audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 12:51 PM
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DJT is nothing more than an example that having shitloads of money can eventually eclipse anything and everything a man does poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 12:49 PM
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For all this sputtering it's really just coming off as you being upset at the suggestion that model women may have some depth to them. Do you define everybody exclusively by their day job?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:28 AM
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Exactly. I don't think many men these days are demanding breakfast every morning unless she's actually a complete SAHM, which is more and more rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 04:23 PM
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The difference between the study and the "anecdata" is probably due to men being shamed harder for homosexual acts. When men have sex with eachother it's considered revolting, when lesbians do, it's "hot". I'm not surprised guys who had a gay experience aren't billboarding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 04:21 PM
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Right but just changing the tire is rarely all the man is doing in a situation like this. If we're going to throw this all the way into hypothetical-land, chances are the guy is also mowing the lawn, shoveling the drive, fixing the roof, and the leaky plumbing. A lifetime of all the typical "man-shit" is certainly worth pancakes. Who even eats breakfast every morning anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 04:16 PM
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Women take failure way harder than men do. And let's be real, handyman work isn't handyman work unless you've done it three different ways and made two trips to the home improvement store.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 04:13 PM
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Oh, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 04:01 PM
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You're still over-generalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 04:01 PM
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they have no talent I agree with most of what you're saying, but ultra-attractive women aren't automatically bimbos. They're all smart enough to be playing to their strengths, for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 02:56 PM
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Many men confuse "confidence", with being an asshole (thanks TRP.) Many women confuse being an asshole, with "confidence".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 02:50 PM
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Some of y'all put way too much thought into this kind of thing. No kidding! This is a whole lot of verbage to say that "men get less sex over time, while the amount of effort expected of them increases, so their souls get crushed and they stop trying so hard."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:50 PM
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I think "fitness test" would trigger men a lot less. And men who are fit aren't really bothered by them, because they're not getting them as often. The thing about these tests is that they're only an apparent problem when the relationship is already on the ropes. To match your simile this would be after you've been hired for a job, but you're doing poorly so they cut your hours and double your work so that you quit instead of them firing you to avoid unemployment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 07:52 PM
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It would be best for him to do so. Meeting her demands to get sex isn't going to be a one-time only feature at the beginning of the relationship. Move on if you need quick pussy that badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 07:43 PM
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It's a crude term for a normal aspect of courtship or a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 07:38 PM
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Ok. Yes I agree. The bit about reading up on the women during WW2 is especially agreeable (my wife is way into that shit, and me too by osmosis). I think feminism gets a lot of shit backwards by simply copying men and celebrating that, instead of viewing traditionally feminine traits and experiences as worth celebrating. Ironically feminism seems to really devalue the female experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 07:33 PM
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TIL that top-heavy legislation doesn't reverse the effects of centuries of racism overnight-- crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 06:59 PM
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Women have been immersed in male comedy and story telling their whole lives, but men and women haven’t been exposed to much of the same from a woman’s perspective. Many actively avoid it where possible. Your sense of humour, just like mine, is coloured by this male saturated viewpoint. The only way it’s going to change is to give female writers, comics and filmmakers a chance. I find myself not wanting to because it feels foreign compared to what I’m used to. While I agree with a lot of what you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 06:44 PM
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I'm sure that's true, unfortunately I only know what's funny to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 04:32 PM
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Amy Schumer being the go-to representation of female comedy basically proves that female comedians have it tough. Look I'm not equalist or feminist or any of that shit but comedy is male-dominated. Might just be that guys are funnier, as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 03:28 PM
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Just go ask him out, hahaha. Seriously, if he's not masculine/dominant you can "attract" him all you want but he's not going to take the lead and ask you out. Go ask him, don't worry you won't have to fight through anyone else in line.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 03:06 PM
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I don't remember ever saying that I absolutely wouldn't marry her, I remember saying that this is a red flag, which it is. And this sub thread is full of people that are apparently very triggered by that and feel the need to claim that it's NOT a red flag. Q4Men, unless we don't like their answer, wherein we tell them what their answer should be and why women are wonderful regardless of circumstance or past actions. JFC I even said everything else checked out fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 02:53 PM
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So you don't find it strange that she hung around not marrying a guy for 10 years but now wants to marry me immediately? Something doesn't add up. Put your purple pill guns away for a second and actually think about the situation. Also, all women are crazy regardless of loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 02:44 PM
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A very stable genius, perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 06:48 PM
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And she hung around for 10 years? Idk, any way you slice that, something tells me she's at least got a touch of the crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 06:46 PM
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10 year LTR with no marriage but now suddenly wants to be married is a bit of a red flag, but everything else checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 06:35 PM
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At least you're in touch with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 02:07 PM
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I guess the movement just needs a tipping point when women realise that they have to lower their expectations and for more men to actually say no. But considering how thirsty young men are, is it ever going to happen? Nope. At least not in my opinion. Our best chance to to play the field as it stands, and to not mince words with each other in terms of advice and opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 01:34 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 03:55 PM
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You point doesn't invalidate mine. Tribalism in the human brain registers as "if the tribe rejects you, you'll die". Even though the social norms have changed, the gut reaction in the lizard brain remains. Stoicism has become sexually desirable and if you can't hang with that, you face rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 03:12 PM
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I think it's a mechanism for processing a man in such a pathetic state. I'm sure there were situations in tribal times where that guy would've been left to die, but here we are carrying him along! I think it's damn near instinctual for women to make fun of pathetic men and/or men in pathetic circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 02:05 PM
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I'm so so happy that I turned my lifestyle around at 26. Was a drunk skinnyfat. Taking care of your body is like saving for retirement-- better late than never, but the people who started early will always be doing a hell of a lot better than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 12:40 PM
1

I turn 30 in 10 days. It's been a great ride, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 03:11 PM
3

Looks help. And they stop helping men at about the same pace that their testosterone falls off. Looks also help men gain status. If you're not born into it, looks (and the added charisma) help you climb the ladder. I agree with you for the most part, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 03:09 PM
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I don't think many will dispute that the male wall exists, however, he is more able to compensate for his worsening physical state with things like money and status. So much so that he can find a woman to settle down with (if that's his prerogative) at a far older age than a woman in a similar situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 02:53 PM
1

Those games were so lovingly written.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 06:17 PM
1

Only played BG2 on PC
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 06:07 PM
0

What if he didn't pay for the sex but just gave you 1000 dollars to cover your cab ride home?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 05:10 PM
1

Let the women work, they seem to enjoy it (for now). That's not the message I'm getting. It reads more like this: "Why aren't we the CEO's yet? I'm working real hard every day why am I not the boss yet? These bills and taxes are expensive surely the men must be getting paid more? That company seems to have nine men and one woman on their executive board therefore patriarchy."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 04:02 PM
5

No, because most men in real life are completely different from the sort of guy to be found on reddit Yet here you are backing up your claims about how men are in real life with what is being posted on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 06:34 PM
4

You seem to be conflating anonymous men on Reddit with identified men in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 06:18 PM
0

Social change seems to happen in a 'three steps foward, one step backwards' kind of fashion, and we're getting ready for a step "backwards" again ("backwards" depends on your viewpoint).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 06:13 PM
10

Pointing out hyperbole with more hyperbole isn't the best approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 06:05 PM
3

This is why TRP advice to 'find your mission' is very good. We live in an age where it's extremely easy to be sedentary/doped up/addicted without actively working against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 06:03 PM
3

Men don't all rant to each other about their misgivings with feminism some of us actually just clam up and play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 04:24 PM
12

For example, when a man complains about feminism, when he is presented with a real life situation with a woman who identifies as a feminist, he won't assert himself or defend his point of view. Public outcry about feminism is volunteering for crucifixion. Logical argument has no chance against emotional appeal, not in the current climate. Then, he ends up being angry at said feminist and goes and rants about it to his friends and starts to stereotype women. Sort of how you're stereotyping men, r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 04:06 PM
3

I confused you for /u/sugabelly -- my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 03:55 PM
11

This is what happens when we tell men that they should be sharing their feelings more. Is it possible that women complain just as much, but because it's much more socially acceptable for women to complain, you don't notice it as much?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 03:53 PM
6

I R O N Y
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 03:48 PM
1

Holy shit you've actually empathized because this is exactly how "privileged" people feel when they get preached at about their privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 03:45 PM
5

Something something monkeys and genes and mate guarding. There, we're all set.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 05:34 PM
2

Hey now, some drug dealers are fairly shrewd and intelligent individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 05:33 PM
1

By "experience", they meant "money".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 05:37 AM
3

I... actually agree? Wow, okay. Well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 05:34 AM
3

Most humans I think have a moment (or series of moments) of self-awareness at some point growing up. I certainly did. It’s normal for someone to go through a “oh god the world actually sucks” phase during puberty. In my experience, for men, it tends to happen around age 23. Puberty sucks, too, but for some reason there's a filter in the early twenties where a guy either "makes it", or gives up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 08:22 PM
1

Deflection and projection? Impressive. You've proven me wrong, the wheel continues to spin faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 07:16 PM
1

How fast can a hamster wheel spin before it breaks?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 07:10 PM
1

I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 06:25 PM
3

Toxic masculinity is always about freeing men from harmful gender norms. Not even close to accurate. Toxic masculinity is about policing boys' behavior because not doing so would supposedly cause them to grow up into rapists, murderers, and reprobates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 05:51 PM
15

Purple. Ex-blue, swung red, landed somewhere in the middle. I married an ex-alcoholic, ex-promiscuous (>10) woman. She has been sober for 5 years and works almost daily on her issues. So far our marriage is incredible and my life is going great. It may have turned out to be a bad move at some point in the future (say, if she relapsed), but for now it's wonderful. I prefer somebody who made mistakes, learned from them, and actively works to improve (that last point is crucial) over somebody who c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 05:45 PM
2

I couldn't agree with you more. This is a huge reason I turned my back wholesale on feminism. Many of my friend are products of the very system you're talking about, and it's causing them endless difficulties in all aspects of life. They're living in conflict with their nature, and the dissonance is psychologically and physically devastating. It works for women to talk through their difficulties. What's worked for men is physical camaraderie, or a collaborative project (i.e. building something) …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 03:58 PM
0

We live in an age where we have libraries of information, audiobooks, podcasts, television shows, and music and the tips of our fingers. Chores are only as boring as you make them. The last few generations would've loved to have had relevant and interesting listening material .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 03:50 PM
1

That's not how many radicals view it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 03:45 PM
0

In a society where women don’t need to depend on men to survive. Where we are roughly as successful as each other. Since marriage has no basis in nature, should we also examine nature to qualify this little gem?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 03:38 PM
1

The fact that you refer to it as a bit of tinkering tells me everything I need to know. My recent "tinkering" to replace our furnace saved us about 1,400 dollars this winter. If you want people to empathize with you, perhaps you should try returning the favor. I'm not defending the deadbeat husbands, I'm defending the ones that are actually doing real work to better their families' lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 03:22 PM
3

Do you think the push against traditional masculinity in men is related to the rise in psychological stress, seeing as those woes are typically addressed by opening up and working through emotional difficulty? Not trying to put you on the spot, but this is an interesting angle that I hadn't considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 03:17 PM
1

Just pandering to their identity-obsessed listeners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 02:49 PM
2

Disparaging it as ‘easy’ is disrespectful to the millions of (mainly) women past and present who make all the domestic wheels turn so men and children can have more freedom It's that same "freedom" that women are discovering isn't freedom at all. Toiling day after day at the corporate capitalist machine with now option to leave because to take that risk is to risk hurting your family. The starry-eyed meritocracy does not exist. The main difference is that now that the supply and demand for labor…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 02:37 PM
1

Cooking and cleaning have both become easier over the years with the advent of home appliances, grocery and convenience stores, hell grocery delivery is the new hot thing, sometimes with pre-selected meals and pre-cut produce and pre-made sauce. Dishwashers and washing machines and clothes dryers didn't exist at one time. You're being unfairly one-sided to say that the guy will just order a spice rack from Ikea but the woman can't ease cooking/cleaning in the exact same fashion. What you're real…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 02:31 PM
3

NPR regularly states "equal opportunity, affirmative action employer". They don't specify exactly, but we all know what they mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 02:00 PM
1

My bad, I was operating off of some info out of the UK that showed about a 1-1.5% disparity of men having a higher unemployment rate. In the U.S. it's fairly negligible currently, though men were much more unemployed right when the recession hit, since many of those industrial jobs were hit so squarely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 06:27 PM
1

The disparity in unemployment stats could also lead to the conclusion that less women are looking for work at all, based on how that statistic is created.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 06:18 PM
2

I have no fucking clue why our Catholic uniforms were short sleeved, thin white blouses and skirts that came above the knee Catholics are (in)famously foolhardy about sexual restraint. Source: my upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 04:59 PM
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Why does it matter what a woman says about guys? Look at who she is fucking or trying to fuck and you'll have your answer.
/r/askTRP17/03/18 04:55 PM
1

They gazed too long into the abyss, and were not careful. Feminism, like any movement, doesn't operate with one unified conscience. It will ride the momentum until it overextends and is corrected by others or from within itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 04:52 PM
1

Unemployment stats don't take into account the danger/difficulty of those employed-- just whether they're working or not. They are also usually based on people who are actively searching for work and can't find it. Yeah we're in agreement on the social/cultural bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 04:23 PM
0

That sucks. I recommend professional therapy. I'm not trying to be offensive, but helpful. Spirituality can help, too, with an open mind. The journey from low self-esteem to healthy self-esteem is difficult and never-ending.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 04:11 PM
1

Are you arguing men don’t have a choice in what jobs they take? Why isn’t this similar to the “wage gap” issue? Of course they have a choice, but the circumstances of that choice are different than what they are for women. Particularly, the social backlash for not working is much worse than it is for women. A man is more likely to suck it up and do a difficult/dangerous job, or do it for a longer period, before he "gives up" and freeloads in some way. It is similar to the wage gap issue-- the pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 04:08 PM
4

The social fabric is horse shit. If everyone's doing it wrong be the one guy doing it right.
/r/askTRP17/03/18 03:11 PM
3

Hitting the gym consistently for a year or two will help with both. Failure to do so is an excuse, or a series of excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 03:00 PM
2

This is just the inverse of feminists' claim to sexism-based disadvantages. Men will say things like "Well sex-based discriminatory hiring practices are illegal therefore you're not disadvantaged." Things don't have to be written into law to be unequal. We can all agree that men are funneled into riskier and dirtier jobs than women. It is far more unacceptable for a man to be jobless than a women (particularly if she is with a male "provider"). It's the old adage: Unconditional love is reserved …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 02:33 PM
3

Women enforce beauty standards on each other but apparently men must take the blame for it with their patriarchy and all that. Take that idea and move it to this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 02:28 PM
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I have not, I'll check it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 12:26 AM
2

Instead of sleeping in tomorrow you could watch that on a loop for two hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:05 PM
5

This phenomenon happens quite often. Somebody gets famous for something, doesn't matter what it is, and people will bitch and complain the second they try to depart from their formula. It happens on youtube all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:57 PM
3

This is delightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 05:50 PM
4

Thank you! I'll have 4 years at the end of the month!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 05:40 PM
4

Met my wife at an AA convention. Go ahead, take your jabs. In our defense though, she'd been sober 3 years and myself 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 05:20 PM
3

Karma +1 for legendary effort/quality reponse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 03:46 PM
1

Right, I should've clarified that in my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 03:34 PM
1

I believe /u/Mr_Smoogs coined the female version of this as "The Fuck Zone", a term I'm fond of and which describes the situation perfectly. At the end of the day, it's a person's own responsibility to walk away from a relationship or interaction that isn't in their best interests. If you haven't communicated your explicit expectations to the other person, you have no room to complain. Knowingly taking advantage of people isn't moral just because they know they're being taken advantage of, howev…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 02:07 PM
1

Approaching IRL: Bigger risk, bigger reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 02:01 PM
1

Of course they will, but online dating is so much easier, plus I can bitch about women from the comfort of my couch all while lifting nothing but my thumbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 01:53 PM
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Last night my wife described Jorah as Khaleesi's friendzone and I just about spit my drink out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 12:16 PM
0

Feminization of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 06:22 AM
0

Nah, but some will say they respect it to virtue signal their feminism to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 12:15 AM
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Furthermore I don't think any amount of mainstream'd feminism is going to change this. Other men simply don't respect it, even if women tell them they should respect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:59 PM
1

Most people get bulky in the winter to build muscle, and then cut/tone in the summer for beach season.
/r/askTRP15/03/18 11:57 PM
2

The average male is woefully weak. Most guys at commercial gyms can barely squat two plates.
/r/askTRP15/03/18 11:56 PM
1

I guess marriage gone sour is the most common example I regularly see of people stewing in misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:54 PM
1

I kind of assumed that a relationship that gets to this stage is either a marriage gone sour, or a hopelessy co-dependent LTR, both implying there is a decent amount of personal risk involved with leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:46 PM
2

Not true in my experience. That's why red pill calls it "waking up": Young men seem to be more prone to listening to what women say (rather than how they act) and doing exactly that, thinking it's a path to getting them laid. This is how Nice Guystm are born.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:43 PM
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Female starfishing - Guy's fault, also she's oppressed by the expectations put upon a wife. Male starfishing - Guy's fault, he's obviously grown complacent and is a piece of shit. Man, I thought relationships were two-way streets. Men's complacency is being blamed for hypergamy-- do women really lack the introspection to think "maybe I'm not putting as much into this relationship as I used to, either"? The man and woman need to put forth continual effort for a relationship to work. It's just a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:38 PM
1

So if this is happening, is it healthy to approach this as "damn dude get your shit together you're being a useless sloth" or should it also include some of "damn, am I not keeping his interest anymore? maybe I'm not contributing like I used to, either?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:29 PM
1

The safe sex people don't want to suggest that condoms for oral is uncommon, it's their prerogative to keep everyone STD free, and they're correct that it would help, but it's just not done normally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:59 PM
1

A few times over years isn't a sex life, it's barely different from no sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:24 PM
2

Annoyance extrapolated over years can turn into pain. We're on the same page though: it's give-and-take. Men should be reasonably able to request sex, and women should be reasonably able to request a "let's talk about feelings" session. It's when somebody continually forces the action without consent that we run into problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:22 PM
0

"Painful"? Yes, painful. I don't expect you to be able to empathize.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:13 PM
1

Men only want one thing and it's fucking disgusting. There's a reason that meme gained so much traction. Men asking for sex is seen as unreasonable, and the wife being expected to provide it is seen as oppressive. Your marriage is unlikely to be reflective of all relationships. I'm just trying to establish that there's some parity between these things, but I can already hear the screeching of being offended at the idea that listening and sex could be considered equal and opposite. But women don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:03 PM
2

I mean the common man's sexual life is no sexual life at all, so you're not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 05:41 PM
5

Oh god please make this a thread. Asking for sex is for pigs but expecting men to actively listen through gossipy girl blather is perfectly acceptable. Certainly there's a give-and-take here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 05:24 PM
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Not exactly quality television to watch a man get tipsy on craft beers and get eyes for a 4/10 overweight chick with huge cans and then drunk drive her home.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 07:12 PM
2

And men are generally working and earning the money or paying out by way of child support during those years. I'd say all men get 2-3 years of paid vacation starting around age 45. Since this is about who's owed what.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:32 PM
2

"Average" could be a wide range. Are we considering ALL men, or just men that women acknowledge as existing? Average could be quite ugly indeed, if taken literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:05 AM
2

See my discussion of Black Mirror elsewhere in this thread; I think it's silly sci-fi fantasy. I personally don't underestimate the exponential nature of human progress. The field is too lucrative to not be rapidly expanded once the the profit margins and quality of products allow it to reach the mass market. What do you mean by this? Honestly, I'm coming back and reading this and I don't know what I really meant. It sounded funny and far-future. And 2050 was generous, my guess for human extinct…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:59 AM
2

Any way to speed this shit up? Invest in AI companies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:53 AM
2

Doesn't biology encourage us to connect sex with love? Oxytocin, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:57 AM
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My major point TLDR is: it's not impossible for a woman to want to fuck you if you're effeminate Most people operate on statistical likelihoods and what works in general, not what can theoretically get them laid one out of three hundred times.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:52 AM
1

If it were just "leave us alone" that would be fine. But it's not, is it? It's "never question us and give us preferential treatment."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:48 AM
1

What's truly infantile is American white women, one of, if not the most pampered and privileged group of people of all time, acting like their lives are unbearable without men cleaning up their microaggressions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:42 AM
1

Offend is probably too strong a word. It feels very patronizing though, just like most things written by Feminists toward men (i.e. "it's not that hard guys, just don't masturbate in front of women in the office" as if that's something the average guy were considering.)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:33 AM
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Red Pill: Male sexual strategy centered around maximizing classic masculine traits. Emphasis is on casual sex or short-term relationships. Marriage is heavily discouraged and is always seen as a bad deal for men. The goal is to garner the lust of women by being as physically attractive, confident, and rich as possible. Blue Pill: Can only be accurately described as non-red pill, but tends to lean toward Feminist ideals, elimination or diminishing of gender roles, emotional availability, and high…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:30 AM
1

Pretend this was a man writing this guide for women. That should give a hint as to how guys feel reading this white knighty pampering bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:12 AM
1

Here's 100 of them to get you started.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:03 AM
2

Is that a joke? I read laundry lists of what men need to do better (in service of women) all the fucking time. Blaming of men is the one unifying position between all the disparate branches of Feminism. It's why 3rd wave is a joke because it's demeaning to women and treats them like infants.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:55 AM
3

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:50 PM
4

Most men can get away with a shaved head, unless they can't grow a beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:28 PM
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2030: Sex bots eliminate the SMP. Real sex becomes a novelty, like listening to cassette tapes. 2040: Genders are completely eliminated. 2050: Artificial super intelligence destroys us all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:26 PM
1

But did you have consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:50 PM
2

I was trying to get at "overall life satisfaction" more than happiness. That's pretty much my definition of happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:30 PM
2

Turns out accepting the fundamentals of female attraction lends itself pretty well to a man wanting a quality LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:26 PM
2

Thanks for putting this together. High-quality/high-effort content is wonderful. This doesn't bode well for my 30's-- I guess I better make the most of this month!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:01 PM
2

Yeah, on their own! With men's help.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 04:20 PM
2

This is my point of the OP and more to that point, at what level of deceit does it become distasteful for you. This is a good question, and highly subjective. I draw the line at fake lashes, excessive eye shadow, tons of mascara, that shit's gross. I like push-up bras, slightly blushed cheeks, and a small amount of subtle lipstick or gloss. nice eyebrows without being distracting nike swooshes. oh and i love yoga pants, basicness be damned.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 04:03 PM
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Q4All: How much deceit do you allow in your mate (makeup, hair, muscles from the gym etc...)? She doesn't wear makeup most of the time. She'll throw on a little maybe once a week for work, or if we're going out to dinner or something. It's not really about what I "allow", but she knows that I hate kissing her when she's wearing lipstick so it's a bit of a behavioral restriction. Q4All: Is there a double-standard in apologizing for women who use deceptive tactics but considering men shallow for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 03:59 PM
2

Makeup is literally named "concealer". I think Smoogs is right on this one. But we can acknowledge that everybody uses deception on some level without having to tie a bag of morals to it. I sure as hell want everybody concealing their body odor, and I'm not going to feel all betrayed because a year down the road I got a whiff of somebody's funk.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 03:51 PM
2

You don't want someone who's obsessed with having a perfect wedding. Pragmatism is a rare and wonderful virtue in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 01:38 PM
1

The only single mom I ever had sex with (before I knew any better) ended up having lots of severe mental issues. She had some major manic episode and was hospitalized a few months after I stopped seeing her. Russian roulette indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 01:25 PM
2

M/29/Married/Purple -- 8/10 Everything is quite splendid. The only things I would change are for wifey to be cancer-free and to have a bit more money. Besides that things are genuinely great. Love my job, my house, my family, lots of great friends and hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 01:03 PM
1

Q4All: How malleable is personality? Very much so. A few anecdotes: Met up with an old friend recently who found me on social media and we have a shared interest in powerlifting. We got together for a training session and he was an entirely different person. He had since gotten married, and had two children. He used to be very edgy/party animal/alpha type, and has grown very reserved and contemplative. I used to drink like a fish about 4 years ago and have changed my lifestyle dramatically, addi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 03:57 PM
1

The only reason I would ever need to be considered "feminist friendly" is if I were famous and trying to preserve a career. Last I checked that wasn't an issue for me. All you have to do is not get into forehead vein-popping arguments about the gender war.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 01:36 PM
3

This is where it becomes obvious that the bottom 50% are literally invisible to most women and they'll reference the top 20% as actually being the top 20% of those they would consider-- so more like top 10% overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 01:28 PM
2

ITT: people acting like my low effort comment was meant to be comprehensive
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 01:21 PM
2

Gym helps the neckline, at least. Actually fixing a face is out of reach for most and a bit unreasonably complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 01:20 PM
5

No, but everyone in the top 20 is in the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 03:24 AM
5

So is there a proposition on the table or are we just going to encourage women to date uglier men for the thousandth time?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 01:39 AM
3

Same lesson every thread: don't be bottom 80% and you're fine. Hit the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 01:26 AM
8

I "turned it off" when my wife got diagnosed with cancer last year (but before we knew she would survive). TRP stuff just seemed so petty and awful during that time. It just became paramount to be as supportive as possible. The TRP self-improvement kicked back in a bit when I realized that continued care for myself was equally as important.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 02:29 PM
5

It should be obvious from my continued participation on PPD that I'm a glutton for this garbage and don't know what's good for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 02:22 PM
7

My feeds are rife with UMC white women bitching about white men and giving them lists of ways to further pamper women. Any opposition is dismissed, and even the white knights chiming in with their virtue signals have swords pointed at them in case of a misstep-- "Useful list! Wow I do a lot of these things but it's a great reminder that I'm on a accelerating treadmill that there's still a lot I need to work on!"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 07:27 AM
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Maybe it would be easier to just say what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:50 PM
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In my opinion, your biological imperatives could be more accurately said to be your "true self." The optimal male reproductive strategy of sleeping with multiple women on the side with a loving wife and mother at home would be closer to my "true self" than the culturally programmed gentleman women claim to like. This made me smile. Q4All: Define your "true self?" My "true self" consists of things I naturally gravitate toward without active resistance. Laziness, addiction, and self-loathing. My r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:47 PM
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It doesn't make fat people lose weight. This is your statement, and there are definitely instances where it has.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 08:35 PM
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So much for civility.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 07:36 PM
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Women dont have to do anything to please a man sexually. Women can be very, very bad at sex. This attitude perpetuates it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 07:30 PM
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Some guys struggle with a mental block that makes it hard to keep it up. And before everyone yells "projecting!" again, yes I used to struggle with it, but thankfully have worked through it. All of the pressure put on male performance really doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 07:27 PM
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Emotional appeal and moral high grounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 04:45 PM
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If we're talking anecdotes there are also plenty in which people describe a fat-shaming scenario as the turning point in their weight loss journey. The thing with fat shaming, though, is that you're shaming an addiction. You're shaming someone's coping mechanism, so if it doesn't work it will backfire and have the opposite effect. That's why positive outcomes of fat shaming will never be reflected in any stat. It's like saying interventions don't work for drug addicts, because the success rate o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 04:39 PM
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Fat shaming does work, just not all the time. People are wrong in saying it doesn't work. Is it a particularly moral thing to do? Not in my opinion. There are other tactics that work better and more frequently to help a person lose weight and to do it in a healthier manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 04:35 PM
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/u/LewisCross did a better job of answering this above. Gonna refer there because I don't think I could say it any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 03:35 PM
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I'd shown the right mix of alpha and beta traits by accident - and now I have a lifetime of consciously trying to balance those to look forward to. Only if you want to be happy. You could always slump into standard low-grade apathy and resentment like 90% of married couples out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 03:31 PM
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I literally quoted 'what exactly' from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 03:28 PM
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You’d rather have your wife (who you love) divorce you than give you a chance to even try to make yourself more attractive to her? This is a really funny question because the answer will depend completely on the man answering it. Someone who doesn't struggle with masculinity will say yes, and someone who struggles with masculinity would want the opportunity to 'fix' everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 02:07 PM
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'Be more masculine' is also terribly vague as opposed to responding positively when he does take the lead. This. Her only hope is to behaviorally reinforce the things she's after.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 02:04 PM
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We don’t have little groups where we share strategies to take advantage of men. They don't need little groups-- women do it freely and in the open and with a "you go girl" stamp of approval from the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 01:59 PM
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Practically everything you mention is present in one form or another in tons of self-improvement/dating advice. TRP is standard dating advice plus tips and reasons for never committing and a MASSIVE dose of cynicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 01:42 PM
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Attractive women actually experience a period of their life where they can be as demanding as they want, and guys will line up for them. The issues come up when she carries those attitudes from her twenties into her 30's, 40's, and beyond, and then blaming the world for her pussy pass getting denied.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 01:34 PM
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This really isn't a debate about babies' rights so much as parents' decisions and whether or not we should be encouraging them to circumcise, tacitly or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 06:47 AM
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That's all well and good, but how does that contribute to a debate? "Is circumcision harmful to people?" "It has been harmful to me." "Don't victimize yourself it's not helping." Yes, I was being sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 06:44 AM
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Thanks, that's helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 06:24 AM
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This should be about as effective as telling men to stop sleeping with crazy hot chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 05:36 AM
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A fair point, but it would've been nice to have the choice at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 05:34 AM
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I imagine men who are circumcised aren't outraged that they are missing the sensations of foreskin. They don't think of their circumcision as something negative Not true in my case. Though I didn't realize until later that I was missing out. Lessened sensation is frustrating a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 04:19 AM
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public transit hub eh, forget it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 06:46 AM
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I think other men shame male virgins a lot - probably more than women, but maybe it’s equal. I’ve talked to men who said they were relentlessly shamed by their friends at 16 for being virgins and wanting to wait for the right girl. Sounds shockingly similar to women slut shaming eachother. Imagine that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 05:14 AM
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excellent public transit Gives new meaning to "Pornhub", doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 05:10 AM
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How about this one: "Added: 'No recording of conversations may be done without the consent of all involved.'"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 10:07 PM
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They're like the top of the bottom of the heap, like the world's tallest midgets.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 04:01 PM
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The very idea of a woman who is "slutty" being in a happy marriage just seems to bother these individuals at such a deep level that they have to construct a sort of narrative to feel better about themselves. Slow clap. Very well put. The whole post, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 04:00 PM
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no one cares about this #metoo shit anymore Everyone keeps saying this but I just got out of a staff meeting on Friday outlining the updates to our employee handbook and all of the changes had obvious ties to #metoo hysteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 03:54 PM
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A better measurement of the "backlash" would be to compare to the same survey in, say, 2016.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 02:43 PM
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Honestly, I don't give a shit. I'm not going to push any sort of unnecessary risk in the current climate. They want to be treated professionally, that's what they're going to get. Never mind that this is exactly how I treated woman co-workers before all this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 02:42 PM
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Both parties are accountable but who's the only one you can effectively change?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 02:39 PM
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Standard issue at date 3. I'm not trying to chase carrot-on-a-stick sex for weeks just to find out we're incompatible. If we're capable of mind-blowing sex together, it's going to happen eventually anyway-- not because I waited for some arbitrary amount of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 04:01 AM
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You gotta do it once or twice otherwise the threats will seem empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 07:09 PM
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If she's willing to flirt with other guys in front of you, you've been fucking up for a long time, because that's pretty blatant behavior. If you're in a relationship where that's happening, you either missed a whole hell of a lot of red flags, or you're simply a loser and need to improve as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 07:06 PM
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That's that jetsetting Indian programmer beta+ mindset Yup. I already detailed my strategy in the other thread. Show muscles, act a little crazy. Highly effective. Funny how much social power comes with muscles. Pretty much my approach, too. Should be said that being muscular lowers the instances of this happening in the first place. Like I said elsewhere, mate guarding is an interaction between 2 men. It's about not being a mark, not being nothing to worry about. Modern men catching their wives…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 07:02 PM
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Or why you're wasting your time with a woman who has so little respect for you. That's sometimes the case, but it's usually more accurate/actionable to ask yourself if you're being respectable in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 06:57 PM
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the enlightened thing to do is sit there like an emasculated pussy and let some guy blatantly hit on your girl in front of your face. So the TRP approach is definitely not to "guard your woman" because she's really not yours to begin with. Your only defense is to be more desirable than an approaching guy. You don't have to just sit there like a pussy-- you can poke holes in the guy's approach, for example, showing that you're wittier than him. There's just very little, if anything, to be gained …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 06:33 PM
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There's nothing immoral or wrong with this approach to sex, and I'm well aware that the majority of modern men and women treat it like that. But it's just not something I can follow, it's gross to me. Kind of like how eating meat is disgusting imo, but I don't judge people who enjoy a juicy burger or fresh lobster. I wish more people thought this way instead of virtue signaling all the god damn time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 05:46 PM
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They are overrated, I agree. Some people enjoy overrated things despite that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 04:17 AM
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I'd like to know why blues don't want red pill men improving themselves. I mean, we all know the answer to that, but the hamstering and whataboutism would be a fun read, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 04:12 AM
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I've never downvoted on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 04:03 AM
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It's not just about sex, but about feeling desired. Otherwise men wouldn't have a problem with starfish transactional duty sex. The rest of your post doesn't seem relevant at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 02:14 AM
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I personally know many betas who are married, with children, and with good jobs that are very fulfilled and happy with their lives. I agree, culture doesn't encourage it. Hell, our culture is focused exclusively on magic fixes and instant gratification-- not exactly good relationship qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 09:08 PM
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I think it's worth mentioning that what a woman desires with her prefrontal cortex and with her vagina can be two seemingly conflicting yet equally valid things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 06:55 PM
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I also powerlift and for the intensity of those movements, going to the gym every day is not only overkill, it's actually hindering you. You build muscle while recovering, not while exercising. Typical powerlifting methods average 3-4 days in the gym per week, with a deload every fourth week. This won't feel like "enough" time in the gym, but it is if you're following prescribed volumes (particularly for the 3 competition lifts). Make sure you're getting plenty of rest, water, and calories. If y…
/r/askTRP03/03/18 06:39 PM
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The occasional rape accusation, HEYOOoooooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 05:21 PM
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Wherein we once again ask "Why don't women think about sex the exact same way as men?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 05:09 PM
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Everyone's flawed and everyone settles in some capacity. Sometimes those flaws don't come to the surface until years into a marriage, but nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 04:51 PM
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They are all in their 20s and definitely the kind of women RP talks about though. So I can't really fault TRP for giving advice that works... although why they want to be with women who act like that is still a mystery. It's not a mystery to other men, trust me. If that's what a guy is after, TRP is very actionable advice. Though they also tend to go overboard with the "avoid beta qualities" stuff. Burn all your video games, never watch porn again, stop doing nerdy stuff, spend a fortune on clot…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 04:47 PM
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This is just confirmation that betas aren't bad and in fact are quite good. The constant reinforcement of dualism between so-called alphas and betas makes betas seem like chump losers waiting to be burned (RP doesn't help this at all, wherein it's better to be dead than "beta"). People conflate omegas and betas almost as a rule at this point. I agree more with /u/Electra_Cute in that these terms have basically lost any non-contextual value. Everybody uses alpha to describe anything from a top 1%…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 03:42 PM
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It's pretty rare for anything done to a man to be considered harassment, or for a man to report it. I agree that women are harassed more, but I think the extent to which men are harassed is considered artificially low.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 01:54 AM
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A comfortable, decent-paying job with people you don't actively hate is a rare and precious treasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 10:38 PM
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We'll be back and forth forever on this, so I'm gonna leave it, which is fine. I would recommend a blue flair for yourself, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 06:55 PM
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they've been getting so much attention since they sprouted tits at 13 that they just want to be left in peace. So they make it worse by crafting the best possible look for themselves for three hours? Second, why would women need to spend so much time and money to impress men? They've created a competitive field that nobody wants to opt out of. It's artificiality or nothing at this point. Women do all of the stuff they do to impress other women to make themselves feel like they are hotter than th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 06:22 PM
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Women enjoy the company of their female friends and they also enjoy the free drinks from dumbasses who think they are going to smash by offering a chick a drink. I don't understand how you claim shit like this, but then claim that these women aren't trying to be attractive to men. You're so caught up in white knighting womens' behavior that you can't even see your own contradictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 06:05 PM
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Men. That's why they care more about invisible ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 09:28 PM
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Because the onus to approach is typically on the man, and men are typically willing to settle further than women (particularly if they themselves are unattractive). Invisible uggos exist on both sides, and it's always a shitty existence. However, if a man is unhappily single, it's viewed as his fault alone. If a women is unhappily single, it's still some man's fault for not accepting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 07:38 PM
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Cause all these people have read a million Slate/Buzzfeed/Other trashy web media articles about narcissism and gaslighting (mostly revenge pieces with males in the crosshairs) and the word is poisonous and triggering now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 04:30 PM
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feeling sexy. They're not doing it to attract men. They may not feel like sleeping with men but they are absolutely wanting men attracted to them. Where do you think "feeling sexy" comes from? Other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 04:23 PM
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My pokemons. Let me show you them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 04:13 PM
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Maybe she was talking in code. (° ͜ʖ°)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 07:42 PM
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I never did any of the online stuff so don't even really know what's popular or trendy or who gravitates to what. Nothing against it, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 07:36 PM
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Oooh is this the automod? Plz don't destroy my fantasies of pillow fights and accidental softcore lesbian exploration, kthx
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 07:33 PM
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If reverse censorship were such a thing, it would be true of Feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 06:49 PM
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Yup. The only people who "hate drama" are the people who are surrounded by it all the time, with that one pesky common denominator.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 05:54 PM
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And so it was written.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 04:16 PM
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Would've been nice to have an age comparison between the two surveys instead of just kind of assuming it's the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 03:42 PM
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All of these trends could be attributed to older age (except maybe the third one). I notice that age was missing from the survey. I wonder if the OKCupid crowd is just getting older? It would make sense that the younger crowd would gravitate toward trendier sites and services.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 03:15 PM
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Too liberal to be a republican, too conservative to be a Democrat That would make you a centrist. Do you know what libertarianism is or are you hipster bandwagoning?
/r/TheRedPill27/02/18 02:43 PM
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Men are easier to manipulate if you can dangle sex in front of them-- Like lambs to the slaughter, we are. Women can't/won't pouty eyes or aw shucks their way through a female judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 01:44 PM
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Deepening SMP inequality reaches a breaking point but just when all hope is lost for floundering males, just when they're all about to go postal and mass genocide the wimmenz... SEX BOTS save the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 01:37 PM
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I imagined Gin Rummy from The Boondocks saying "Get a fish. Bitches love fish."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 01:31 PM
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Yeah I'm totally on board with all that, just don't agree that striking kids is effective or necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 09:07 PM
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Ah the classic "my parents hit me and I turned out fine!". Research doesn't support your theory. Non-physical stricter discipline, though-- that I can get behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 07:48 PM
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I'm sure it's not uncommon to get hooked on opiates and march toward an eventual "suicide". Categorized as a drug OD, but really just slow suicide. Alcohol is another popular option.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 07:43 PM
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Mainly that I like the idea of settling down, getting married, and having a couple of kids-- RP anathema, basically. Probably because I was raised in a decent household with decent relatives and I've been privy to more happy marriages than miserable ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 07:39 PM
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What about an OD tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 07:34 PM
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Raises hand. I'll put up with a woman acting like a bitch if she's hot. Do I like that about myself? Not really, but thems the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 03:22 PM
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You share bills, a living space, friends, pets, you name it-- everything in your lives become very entwined. I can see people deciding that it's easier to just "go with the flow" and get married rather than breaking up, even if they feel on some level that they're not the most compatible. That's a good observation. Pros and cons as with everything. Me and my wife did a bit of a skip jump and she moved in about 3 months before the wedding. That was enough time to let any glaring issues have a cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 05:12 AM
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I mean, this assumes a Christian context where the couple is remaining chaste and not cohabiting before marriage, so definitely outside of the typical Western experience. If that's the context, there's going to be plenty held back no matter what you do-- you're holding back two massively important qualities-of-life for a marriage: sexual chemistry and how you are as a roommate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 05:08 AM
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It seems like absolute madness that there was a time when it was considered wrong to live with or sleep with your future spouse. That's some backward-ass shit. It's almost like they want the ink to dry before anyone can find any hesitations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 04:58 AM
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In my experience (recently married), I was much more worried about her holding back some baggage. I had a fear that the second we were married, the masks would come off, we'd be at each other's throats, and I'd instantly regret everything. It didn't turn out that way. thankfully. I don't think it's ever wise to put everything you have on the table right away. You should always be able to surprise your spouse in some way, even if it's small. I do somewhat agree with the speaker, but I think the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 04:53 AM
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Men are programmed to be after sex, women are programmed to be after commitment. They both went on Tinder advertising their marital status. This isn't even slightly surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 04:45 AM
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I think that people who have the intention of getting married will tend to demonstrate their fitness for that through their relationship. One doesn't want to seem like a shitty spouse before the knot is even tied.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 04:41 AM
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Or suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 12:44 AM
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We're well on our way to things being boring the same day they're brought up as an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 12:38 AM
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Who would build everything then? Surely not women. The world would crumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 07:17 AM
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Overall, I think physical health needs to be emphasized more at school. Getting out and playing sports or going out in nature are wonderful activities for mind, body and soul. In much of the Western world this is becoming rarer as kids spend more time on their phones and computers and less time in the real world. Kind of agree, but why should this fall on schools and not on parents? Now it's been awhile since I was in grade school, but I did have a physical fitness class, and outside recess. Me …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 03:50 PM
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Right. The emotionally vulnerable thing is weird, because it can net a relationship or two (from girls who like the idea of a boyfriend like that). It can be pretty effective, but it soon after becomes unattractive and exhausting. Like it or not, women have enough shit to deal with before taking on all their man's emotional baggage. Most women aren't willing to carry that shit, and then to bring children into that as well? Not going to happen. It's even worse in the current environment because g…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 03:35 PM
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Ah, so that's why philosophy nerds are all so damn functionless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 04:34 AM
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There's a pretty big gap between blaming women for shootings, and suggesting that the unforeseen fallout from feminism may be one of myriad contributing factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 04:32 AM
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Plenty of philosophy can be implemented without being taught in a scholarly fashion. This is more discipline/parent-teacher conference territory. Granted, most of this falls on the parents anyway, but it should be reinforced in schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 04:19 AM
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Those men have mental illnesses - there is no true ‘reason’ behind their violence. I think this line of thinking is more insular than anything. Nobody wants to believe that little Johnny two-shoes up the street could be shooting up the school tomorrow. Now I'm against fear-mongering as well, but we need to be willing to dig into the 'reasons', yes, the reasons these things happen. However, the rest of your post seems to offer quite a bit in terms of offered solutions: But it’s also important to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 04:16 AM
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First off, thanks for the thought-out, quality response. Which part? It's suddenly a problem because what men are being taught both from their environment and "straight from the horse's mouth" is that they need to be more docile and calm and agreeable but this isn't what the "horses" really want, nor is it going to gain them much respect from other people. I agree. However, the prevailing narrative (at least from the left) is to apply more of the same. There seems to be a lack of introspection i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 03:59 AM
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I agree. Mass shootings are perfect storms of bad situations. Nobody can look at one contributing factor and confidently say that addressing it won't change outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 03:47 AM
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Right, but this is often cited as a contributing factor, and is the factor with the most relevance on PPD. I'm not trying to claim that this is the sole cause-- that would be absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 03:30 AM
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Working out alone doesn't create this. Women who work out too hard would create a cut muscular look, like this The woman pictured clearly has defined physical goals. If she added 50% to her calorie intake, she would be thicc in 6 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 02:13 AM
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If you have wealth and fame, it's assumed that you've fucked a lot of women, even if you haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 06:39 PM
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I'm not sure. I've only really witnessed it in established relationships, not as a signaling device. I think it's a card to play to establish righteousness and/or innocence in avoiding traditional male roles. It's very opportunistic if the man is already married to a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 06:11 PM
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My Audi got a flat on the way in this morning. Bummer, right? Luckily it was the slow Audi.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 05:33 PM
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I know a few men who choose to just live with the judgement to play out their adolescent fantasy of staying home and playing video games. Throw in some extreme codependency and you've got a recipe for 5-7 years of "living the dream". No coincidence that all three of them are self-described male feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 04:56 PM
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All too true, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 04:46 PM
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Whoa I didn't realize that I was supposed to get a pay raise for this shit! Hold on, let me phone the boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 04:42 PM
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Progressives have been cannibalizing and hamstringing each other since forever. It's a natural phenomenon that weeds out the changes that society isn't ready for. That is, only the things that lots of people agree on will gain significant traction. The liberal media is trying to make a buck just like everybody else. There might be some agenda pushing here and there but mainly it's about pandering to their known viewers and shoveling them the shit that they want to hear. It's about ratings. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 04:40 PM
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I agree with most of what you're saying, but how is it that you think men are running feminism? We're no more organized than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 04:15 PM
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"Lying to your wife is easy. It's looking your kid in the eyes that's the hard part."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 06:52 PM
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"Immoral" is different for everybody, and discussion is a great way for somebody to define their own morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 05:42 PM
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I'm of the belief that "amorality" in these cases is just immorality with rationalization. Actual amorality would be a computer program performing functions in the only way its code allows.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 05:32 PM
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You do realize that you can approach women, go somewhere more private, and then have them initiate sex, right? You've demonstrated initiative by getting her alone with you. And if you've done a good job of it, she'll be taking your clothes off for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 04:54 PM
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0-10 scales in general are not used very effectively. 6/10 is above average. In fact, it's 10% above average. It's a good score!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 04:47 PM
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Femini--... eh, too easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 03:36 PM
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I think it's just become easier to get started in porn. Think about it-- in earlier days you had to shoot a scene, edit, publish, upload, encode. Unless you really knew your shit, that was pretty difficult to do on your own, so you had to go find someone to help get you started. These days? Generally speaking, all it takes is a webcam and reasonably modern computer and you can be streaming your assets to the public instantly. People have the ability to create and edit decent quality videos from …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 03:30 PM
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I can't get over the lead author of the study being named McNulty-- I just finished watching The Wire.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 02:39 PM
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I agree with this. When I met my wife and got married I went through a long period of unmotivation toward the gym because, after all, I got the girl. I had to find out the other reasons I had been going and to amplify those. Fortunately the easiest way for me to identify those was to stop going to the gym for about a month and seeing how it affected my life. Now I recognize the benefits it has on my mood, my confidence, and my work ethic, and I still go on a regular basis. Doing it to attract wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 02:36 PM
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Furthermore, the fitness industry is so incredibly toxic and misleading, people can think they're doing everything right for years while making very little actual progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 02:30 PM
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Hey, we're in agreement here. Don't slut shame women, and don't shame men who want to be man-whores. Don't turn a whore into a housewife, and don't turn a man-whore into a husband and you'll be fine. EDIT: Please get tested regularly, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 04:01 PM
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To be fair, the marriage was a disaster even before MRP. A different engine isn't going do much if the wheels have fallen off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:57 PM
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TERPS are so dumb, let's show them how dumb they are by giving them exactly what they want and acting in a way that benefits everyone. Yeah, what a bunch of suckers!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:45 PM
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Is Donald happy? I think he lives in a bubble of narcissistic denial. He's probably quite happy, despite being a sack of shit. Is Melania happy? She's probably a bit upset at having to be first lady (wasn't supposed to be part of the arrangement). But yes, she has a huge payday coming no matter what happens. Her marriage to Donald is her job. I'd say she's happy. Is Melania sexually attracted to Donald? No. What do you think of Melania as a person? All I know is she's a model. She seems to be ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 01:27 AM
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I agree with your addition.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 01:17 AM
3

Feminists getting neurotic and bitchy? How do you know they're not that way all the time? Also, it's not always jealousy-- they may disapprove of traditionalism/chivalry in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 01:15 AM
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I think it has more to do with the male ego enjoying that a woman has chosen and continues to choose him over other males. That has inherent value that only increases with the quality of the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 09:54 PM
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Women don't actually want to be treated like princesses. That's what women tell each other they deserve but in practice it's sexually unappealing and boring. If you actually respect a woman, you don't constantly pamper her-- that's like tacitly saying "I'm going to protect you from this big bad world because it's scary and I don't think you can handle it."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 08:49 PM
2

Why is female identity hinged on "what will the men think of us?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 06:07 AM
0

we've seen a decline in social media use across the board Probably because that shit's gotten depressing, infested with parents/employers/etc. Hell, the only thing Facebook is good for anymore is memes and organizing events.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 05:44 AM
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What about a woman who really wants to excel at work and works twice as hard as the men around her. Will probably do about the same as a man working twice as hard as the other men. Which results in not getting recognized nearly as much as they deserve, and probably just making their manager look good. They call it a rat race for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 05:17 AM
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If rape is so black and white, there should be no problem having it decided in a court of law.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 05:11 AM
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It astounds me that women think we spend our free time amongst ourselves bragging about our rapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 04:22 AM
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I think the label is accurate, but I think this state of being is just a precursor to non-incel BP, or Black Pill, depending on if they get lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 06:12 PM
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Seems to me that Blue Pill Incels, as you call them, are just Black Pills who haven't fully embraced the apathy yet. It's like Black pill but instead of just not giving a fuck at all, they're still doormatting themselves for any women they come across. Why do you suspect blue-pill incels feel bad that attractive women have to interact with male sexuality? I think it has to do with the way male sexuality is approached (repressed) in many large swaths of the U.S. (will only talk about U.S. here, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 06:05 PM
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The only model I know is fighting the wall tooth and nail at age 36 and refuses to lower her standards and is unhappily single and/or bouncing into and out of short-term relationships. She did date a "normal guy" though, for a couple of years. He was ugly and had zero income and a bizarre personality. Not really sure what she was thinking there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 04:41 PM
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That's why I went with "high risk of" instead of "all are definitely".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 03:49 PM
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Maybe I'll cry a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 02:55 PM
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It's really not much different from the hot-crazy matrix that men generally go by for women. If he's a 100% domineering chiseled stud, it comes with a set of risks (cheating/manipulative/narcissistic) as far as marriage is concerned. Same with a knockout 10/10 babe. High risk of crazy and/or slutty behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 02:23 PM
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Holy shit did you just compare being a woman to being a plantation slave? Maybe stop consuming victim-rallying feminist podcasts and articles for an hour or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 02:15 PM
2

Unhealthy people aren't looking for healthy relationships. It's part of what makes them unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 01:50 PM
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just don't do stupid shit like touch them or come on to them. Found the patronizing bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 08:52 PM
1

There seems to be a consensus (!) around here that in a FWB or casual sex scenario, the woman is more likely to catch feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 05:40 PM
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So if men don't please and talk to and look good for women, they must be bad men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 05:38 PM
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The second paragraph is alarmingly accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 05:29 PM
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ladies females*.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 05:27 PM
2

I love how you pound this point onto every thread and people still can't seem to grasp it. I respect the effort, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:11 PM
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I agree, of course, but would submit that women usually aren't afforded the same social benefits as men when it comes to being direct and confrontational. On the other hand, a guy who says something like "I like you but your tits aren't very nice" isn't likely to receive a positive reaction, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:09 PM
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Men will date uglier women for the reliability of sex, women will date uglier men for the reliability of resources. I don't feel like either is very commendable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:04 PM
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Pull sumo, eat ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 05:09 AM
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Why is it the man's responsibility to be upfront about it? He's not responsible for fulfilling your expectations if you never make them known.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 05:04 AM
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Exactly. There's zero leverage left in the late 30's unless you're vocally not wanting kids and happen to find a guy willing to make you exclusive for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 10:43 PM
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More women get burned by these non obvious players who are close to or below their own SMV Define "getting burned". Quite frankly a lot of guys will get spooked if he senses that you're out of his league. Better to take the win and try to avoid the heartbreak.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 10:40 PM
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I don't buy it. It sounds like you're taking your own party years and using it to draw conclusions about all men everywhere. Doesn't add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 06:24 PM
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Mainstream BP advice to young women where "older women are just as attractive as younger women" and where "girls should have fun in their 20s and only look to settle down in their 30s" sets women up for romantic failure (should they want to marry and have children, which most women do). I think only RPW really says "Hey girls, hunt for the good men young and snag them as soon as you can. Don't waste time fucking around. The prime time for you to snag your hubby is 20-24. Don't waste your pretty"…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 04:34 PM
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My video game thread I'm a man, I love video games, and I still enjoyed that thread. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 04:25 PM
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At least she doesn’t have an eating disorder. She has a competitive eating disorder. I lost it. Wow hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 08:40 PM
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High level troll. 10/10, bait and hook consumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 10:02 PM
1

190.53? Sweet jesus, my wife sure missed out marrying a cheap-ass polack.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:58 PM
2

...Something something, TRP, post-wall women something, projecting regrets...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:55 PM
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being a SAHM is incongruent with feminism. It is. The feminist narrative sort of requires SAHM'ing to be considered oppressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:49 PM
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Certainly not a pro but powerlift total around 1350, so enough to compete. BMI doesn't tell the whole story. I'm very active and my bloodwork shows no negative health markers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 08:19 PM
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Was referring to the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 06:26 AM
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At least they don't have to worry about getting boners in those tiny competition trunks.
/r/askTRP04/02/18 05:01 AM
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I'm not trying to say that I'm a thin boi, just saying that 250 is low number to assume laziness when you factor in height. I am also in a long bulk right now, I'm not delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 04:51 AM
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Men's sexual interests = Gross and oppressive. Women's sexual interests = Positive empowered identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 07:15 PM
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I'm not ripped but I do carry a lot of muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 07:00 PM
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I edge into obese if you go purely by BMI, but I do heavy strength training three times a week. I'm not claiming to be thin, but if you saw me you wouldn't say "ew, hit the gym fatty".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 06:59 PM
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Whoa whoa, 250 ain't always fat. I'm 6'1" 250 lbs and I'm not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 06:10 PM
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He has the same protaganist in every novel-- that link has probably more than you'd ever want to read about a fictional character, but he's written 22 novels about him so it is what it is. It doesn't cover much about his romantic life, but I can tell you there's a lot of ONS or three weeks of sex and move on type of behavior. It's not portrayed negatively, just very matter-of-fact. Fantastic lazy summer reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 06:06 PM
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Self-conscious, performance anxiety, never had an orgasm and never will due to a mental block, chronic vaginal dryness, toothy blowjobs, distracting/annoying moans, I could go on... Let's dispel the myth that bad sex is always the man's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:59 PM
1

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate the saga of Mac and the Tranny in Always Sunny?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:47 PM
1

I stopped listening at the part where I'm supposed to assume this is "more than an anecdote" because it's coming from a trans person. It's a different perspective, sure, but it's still just an anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:41 PM
1

Try Lee Child. Jack Reacher isn't a player on purpose, but fits the bill of never committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:31 PM
2

Honestly this just makes me want to be a good parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 03:55 PM
2

But without generalizations, how will we have any fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 02:07 AM
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It boils down to women seeing SAHM'ing as slavery and oppression. The problem is that when the guy takes over traditional female gender roles (which will be required if the goal is to actually push past them), her pussy dries up completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 05:08 PM
1

Lifting spills over into everything. Confidence leads to active forms of attraction. Discipline leads to better work performance, a nicer looking place, better spending habits. At least usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:41 PM
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You address the limits of your knowledge here, and that's good. Hearing from one person in a relationship is usually not a very accurate reading of that relationship objectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:39 PM
2

what about the free the tits parades and the outcry over women's beauty standards and the fat acceptance circus and the "it's none of your business what I wear"s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:43 PM
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I didn't realize that people have raised nearly 20 million dollars to pay for legal defense for #TimesUp women. Gender Wars indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 06:54 PM
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It works if you want what RP wants: Short-term flings with zero commitment. For anything else you have to start removing either small chunks or huge pieces for it to be considered sound advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 05:02 PM
3

So last night my washing machine's spin cycle knocked an entire gallon of bleach off of the shelf and onto my bathroom floor. My house smells like somebody just cleaned up a murder scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:37 PM
3

Who would win: One triggered Redditor? or one Philosophy Boi?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:34 PM
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If you want to take this position fine, but remember to keep Trump's horse hitched to economy and the DJIA when the shit crashes, and it is going to crash.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/18 06:18 AM
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Then why do you eviscerate feminism and call feminists feminazis? If you act like that you can't be surprised when others do it to you. The difference is that all of mainstream culture is on board with the feminist imperative and with deriding opposing thought. The 4%(number pulled straight from ass, just guessing) of MRA's or manosphere types calling people feminazis is hardly equal and opposite. I wouldn't have a problem if you talked about men's suicides, prisons, homelessness, child custody,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 06:08 AM
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You can do the same for men if you want. Except that all of mainstream culture will eviscerate you for it and call you a rapist and nazi apologist (I wish I were exaggerating but I'm not). If you start to talk to somebody who leans left about anything that's a remote whisper of men's rights they start looking at you funny, and then shut down completely and say shit like "I thought you were a better person than that. You're a sexist and a bigot and we can't be friends anymore."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:16 AM
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If you're a women who runs around complaining about gender norms, join the army and tell them you want to become a special forces operator or some other high intensity combat role, or work on a construction site. Otherwise, you're a hypocrite. So many times this. All of this outrage about representation in cushy STEM jobs and it's a huge sexist problem that there are so few female CEO's. Construction? The Trades? The Draft? Fucking crickets.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 04:00 AM
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The coming generation of kids growing up with quick and easy access to porn (literally in your pocket at all times) will struggle with it more than my generation, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 09:24 PM
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Seems like we actually disagree on very little. I see it daily with my friends who came from poorer households and who have the worst fucking habits, I mean just god awful habits that are decidedly keeping them from moving forward. Yeah, the cycle of poverty is a real thing. My issue with the right is that their political tactics and emotional appeal vilify and shame people for simply existing in these circumstances. I don't believe this to be helpful-- it just causes folks to become entrenched.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 08:40 PM
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Meh, classic bootstraps bullshit. I hear what you're saying, I simply disagree that hard work is all it takes. It's a triple-tall mountain to climb if you weren't fortunate enough to receive a decent education. I'm not talking about the 'useless' rich people, rather the ones that benefit from corporate welfare and lean on gov't bailouts and policy to "save our jobs" i.e. their stock prices. The social contract is a shadow of a shadow of what it used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 06:53 PM
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But if he stays and cuddles for 59 minutes then we all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 05:28 PM
1

The right deifies the rich in a similar fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 05:25 PM
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95%/5% is pretty good ratio for stoicism/vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 05:18 PM
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Women who slap on makeup everyday hit the wall harder. That shit wrecks your skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 12:39 AM
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and throw away the key!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 08:31 PM
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We're trying to draw a line for a situation with infinite variables. People talk about rape like it's a solid black line that, once your toe crosses it, you're raping. In actuality it's a vast, gradually darkening gray zone. The question shouldn't be, "did you cross the line?" but rather, "how far across the line did you get?".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 07:58 PM
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Yeah, I get envious of that a bit-- not that I plan to get divorced. But being from a family composed entirely of Catholics, divorce would be pretty ugly. Our secular marriage was awkward enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 07:53 PM
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I don’t personally feel there’s any stigma around being divorced. Not all relationships work out and everyone understands that. Everyone doesn't understand that. Look at the Catholics-- so many relationships gone completely sour, but they stay married through clenched teeth because of religion. Those types will stigmatize divorcees completely because it's a great way to justify their sunk-cost fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 07:18 PM
2

RV in the woods is sounding better with each passing day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 06:23 PM
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Playing video games, sneaking off to watch porn, leaving their dirty clothes and dishes lying around, being sloppy about personal hygiene. Binging Netflix, reading Cosmo, gossiping on the phone all evening and never touching so much as a screwdriver are the female versions of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 05:50 PM
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very soon blow jobs would be come ultra boring. I'd move onto something else. I haven't had a "boring" blowjob in my life?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 04:54 AM
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I think women want to have their cake and eat it too, to have that bad boy who channels his badness into positive things and a relationship with her. They don't need both in one person. They can marry into a stable relationship and chase bad boy dong on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 04:52 AM
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I heard there was a march today or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 07:08 PM
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Marriage 2.0 has the guy providinig for them (whether directly or indirectly through the children) but she has zero responsibility to provide companionship, sexual enjoyment, emotional support and can leave at any time. She provides for him too, these days. At least, most of them do. If they want to. Or not. Whatever. Guys don't have a choice though, not without severe social consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 07:00 PM
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World's tallest midget.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 06:12 PM
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I was actually only half joking, amateur is my go-to category those times I watch for many of the reasons you mentioned. Softcore romance stuff does nothing for me, though. To me, that's like cutting cocaine with drywall and saying it's a more refined high. I'm definitely a guy, it would seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 05:56 PM
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Everything I've looked up so far is saying that it's very difficult to compare civilian and military divorce rates (convenient, huh?), because they're tracked by different agencies with different methodologies. While the training aspect might play into it, there are things working against service members, too. Difficulty re-entering the civilian workforce, PSTD if they've been deployed in active zones, or other mental or physical injuries that generally are very tough on marriages. It can also b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 04:58 PM
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The TrapMaster 3000
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 04:47 PM
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I'm getting all hot and bothered just thinking about it!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 04:45 PM
1

Hell yes I would. A pseudo MFF threesome? Sign me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 04:43 PM
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There are massive benefits to getting married while in the military. So much so that many men quickly marry women that they otherwise wouldn't. I have two friends who married in the service for this very reason. This site covers it pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 04:40 PM
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Hahahaha, I have to laugh at the truth in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 01:59 AM
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That's a fair point and I probably took the jab too personally. I've gotten so used to eating the whole bird but spitting out the bones, that is-- ignoring or filtering the blatantly stupid stuff on TRP-- for a long time. I forget that not everybody approaches it that way. Sometimes I forget what it was like when I first scrolled through that stuff. The pack mentality is so real over there, which is weird because it's supposedly very much about being a lone wolf.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 09:22 PM
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Oh I know you're serious. I'm glad you got some of your pent up feelings out. Everything you wrote, though, is pure opinion. And so is mine. You can smugly say "not all opinions are equally valid" as a way of declaring victory if that's what your ego needs, but this hasn't been a discussion about "facts" or "correctness" at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 08:58 PM
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Haha, nice jab.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 06:15 PM
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Eh, not worth disagreeing further. We just have different views.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 05:32 PM
1

You know, I actually agree with a lot of what you're saying, which is why I moved to a purple flair. You can moralize however you want, but I don't personally think that sleeping with lots of women is inherently bad. The alternative is serial monogamy which is arguably more damaging to individual women. As a sexual strategy TRP works very well. Yes a lot of them are very angry and should probably GTOW, but calling them all shitstains is fairly lazy and reeks of envy. I disagree with a lot of fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 05:17 PM
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Saying women are too picky is tacitly admitting that they can and do have standards, too. Not liking it doesn't mean they're out to eradicate it. If you read some of the actual TRP sidebar material you'll see that they promote acceptance and self-improvement. I can't help it if you read 5 or 6 posts of spergy bullshit in asktrp and take it to be indicative of TRP as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 04:36 PM
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Lots of Terps* are more aware and accepting... That better?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 04:30 PM
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<rolls eyes>
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 04:09 PM
1

Terps are more aware and accepting of women's standards than most. The Terps you're referring to are still in the anger phase and use TRP as a veil for reactionary misogyny. The more experienced Terps fully accept that women have lists of standards and play that to their advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 03:40 PM
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Average Liberal Egalitarian Feminists would probably consider TRP to be so heinous so as to not even warrant debate or discussion. Easier to lump them in with the nazis and call it a day. My point is the bloops hanging out in here aren't your average bloops and are probably more open to Red ideas than the general public. Half the shit we talk about here would send your average libfem into rage mode "fuck you for even suggesting that have a nice day"-ism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 01:49 AM
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I disagree. Men in the friendzone are not romantically involved. Cuddling is a romantic gesture that women love and has no place in a friendzone scenario. Holding hands, proclamations of love, kissing, etc. are all things that are romantic and don't exist in friendzones.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 01:22 AM
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I would see a woman's woman as being unthreatening in appearance, maternal, kind, loves chatting, a people person, etc. That's seems pretty accurate, I guess. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 06:39 PM
1

What is the motivation behind these obsessive ideas of equality and equity? It's mistakenly assumed that 'equal' means 'fair'. The fact that the way you were born imparts certain disadvantages/advantages upon you is completely unpalatable to people. It's delusional thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 06:34 PM
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If that happens you fucked up. Not if you genuinely believed you were doing everything correctly. TRP calls it "waking up" for this reason. A Man might think because he has a successful career, is a bit pudgy but is always nice to his wife and is a decent father that his marriage is still bulletproof because that's how it's supposed to be, right? ...right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 06:21 PM
1

Do you think a woman's woman would be more to do with her appearance, than with her behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 06:14 PM
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I'm asking in good faith: what your brief summary of that be?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 05:52 PM
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TRP is not for conventionally attractive/successful/self-actualized men in the same way that AA is not for people who can drink responsibly. People could try to make an argument that one can always improve, or "something something men's rights", but the bottom line is if you're successful with women, there are better places to self-improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 05:47 PM
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I think the reason why some men say things like women and men can't be friends is because its under the pretense that one is always attracted to the other I think some nuance is needed here. This is only an issue if the woman is attractive/a potential mate. You don't see lots of guys chilling around with uggos or post-menopausal women platonically just for the fun of it. Sexual tension makes friendships interesting. Male-Female friendships of reasonably attractive, similarly aged people will alw…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 05:21 PM
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What I don't understand is why some men here don't like this sort of stuff. All men love this stuff. Any man who denies it is suffering from feminism-inflicted guilt about how they need to be perfectly egalitarian or it's an affront to women everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 05:07 PM
0

A woman setting out to have casual sex is going to be far more successful than a man setting out to have a rewarding romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 05:03 PM
1

Forming a connection with another man takes time, effort, and some sense of "proving yourself" (male-male relationships). Forming a connection with a woman is as easy as showing a willingness to listen without dismissing her thoughts (male-female). Both have value, but I'd say I prefer male personalities. I don't often like to sit down and actually say what I'm feeling or have a cry/gossip sesh or whatever, just not my cuppa. I like doing a shared activity, joking and prodding, playing music, fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 04:58 PM
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Wome want sex just as much as men Maybe 4 or 5 days out of the month.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 04:51 PM
2

Actually I know one who is simultaneously giving up drugs/turning his act around and being a dad to his spawn and he's in a relationship. It's weird. He looks like a fish out of water.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 04:47 PM
1

I find it interesting that we all have a generally agreed-upon 'man's man', but what would a 'woman's woman' be like?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 04:44 PM
3

Believe it or not but it actually takes a bit of willpower to turn it off once you've turned on. Don't bother trying to explain this to a woman-- nothing good can come of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 08:37 PM
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If you say "I don't want to have sex", the guy will do like Aziz Ansari, he'll say "of course no problem we can just chill" and he'll try to shove his penis in your mouth. She didn't say that, though. She mumbled and gave nonverbal cues (of her own admission). Also, she'd already had his penis in her mouth by that point. If you're going to rescind consent after that, it'd better be pretty fucking direct.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 08:34 PM
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I think it goes back to that "90% of communication is non-verbal" trope. The essence of non-conflict is loading what you're saying with the emotion of what you're actually saying, and hoping the other person picks up on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 07:45 PM
5

Wow, with this advice I'm unstoppable! Look out, women of the world!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 05:19 PM
1

I was red for maybe two weeks but that was a long time ago. Old flair was "RPG's are fun" which might've played mind tricks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 05:01 PM
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Nobody (well, maybe I shouldn't say nobody) actually wants that, they just want to be able to rescind consent no matter what. In theory, I can agree with them-- If a one party gets too rough or violent, the other should be able to stop giving consent at any time (see: safe words). In practice, though, it gets really murky. In the current climate and practice, it is attempting to strip men of basic decency just because they're bad at sex. There's tons of gray area, and there will always be great …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:56 PM
5

I'm sure these aren't the only problems these people bring to the dating pool. I'm not surprised that 25-33% of people aren't generally awful about any given topic/scenario/idea. Hopefully they all pair off and eat Tide pods together.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:34 PM
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Hahaha, ever see a woman try to have sex and get rejected? It literally doesn't compute. Attractive women are used to not even playing the sex card. Seeing them play it and then still get rejected is actually hilarious.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/18 03:30 PM
4

Rejection is tough: which is also why women don't approach more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 05:26 PM
5

This wasn't a false allegation-- the facts are agreed upon, they just fall short of sexual assault.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/18 05:17 PM
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In regular Reddit land, this is actually getting a fairly broad dismissal. Probably because it has nothing to do with whether you believe the woman or not: what she said, taken at face value is a bullshit claim. Lots of the metoo people want nothing to do with this, and many are insulted by it. It's just funny that we all saw this (mistaking less-than-ideal dates for sexual harassment/assault) happening everywhere, this was just the first high profile and obvious case of it.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/18 02:25 PM
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nonverbal signals to stop she told him to slow down Directness is key. Considering they had given each other oral sex beforehand, it's fairly reasonable for him to assume he had consent. When it dawned on him that he didn't, what did he do? Oh right, he called her a cab and texted her an apology. Real asshole move, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 02:19 PM
1

Silence! Don't talk about it until agent Red Squirrel completes the plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 02:15 PM
1

He dresses well, but generally speaking short and skinny is not ideal.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/18 02:09 PM
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He figured she was okay with as she did go back to his apartment. She also put his penis in her mouth and let him put his mouth on her vagina. Notice that all of the questionable behavior happened after they'd already had oral sex. He was also talking about grabbing a condom before oral, there's simply zero claim that she didn't know what he was after.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 07:06 PM
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He bought her a cab ride home ffs. This is an egregious example of female hypoagency. Sounds like Aziz is terrible romantically (I shouldn't even know this much about his private life), but where is this woman's ability to walk away? She gave him oral (and received it) and then was shocked that he went for sex afterward? Also, she dropped this story immediately after he won a golden globe. It has bitter revenge written all over it. Sounds like she had an uncomfortable night out, that's it. She's…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 06:42 PM
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Let's be frank: Aziz doesn't have conventional attractiveness. He has the cute/funny card, and that's about it. He's riding on his status alone. He's trying to be physically dominant when he's anything but, and it just comes across as creepy. Had he been flirtatious, back-and-forth, take it slow and be romantic-- he would've gotten laid without a hitch. When a conventionally attractive Alpha man just takes what he wants, it's sexy and passionate. When a conventionally unattractive Beta does the …
/r/TheRedPill15/01/18 06:31 PM
5

I wonder how many people have read his "modern romance" book without a grain of salt. How unfortunate.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/18 05:58 PM
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Eh, they throw out pre-nups all the time, and it will only take one ultra lib judge to create precedent for throwing out sexual contracts, too.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/18 05:49 PM
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I'd like to add to this that a massive percentage of voters in the U.S. are single issue voters (and this isn't the issue for most). It's things like abortion, economic policy, healthcare, or senior entitlements. This might have an impact on the millennial vote, though (presuming they actually show up in 2018/2020). Lots of the older millenials (the ones buying houses and SUVs and starting families) are so over this reactionary emotional bullshit that it would take an exceptional Democratic cand…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/18 05:45 PM
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That's a fair point. I do think Aziz actually believes this stuff, but I'm sure his agent continually pushes him to play to the feminists. It's huge money.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/18 05:10 PM
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What's poignantly hilarious, is that if women read what you've written, they'll see a "rape guide"-- when really this is just how you have sex with enthusiastic consent which is what all of this fuss is about anyway. Men are supposed to just "pick up the subtle cues". Turns out that can be difficult, and when we try to give each other help on it? "NOPE, that's RAPE culture". The irony is insane.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/18 03:39 PM
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prostrating yourself before women will not save you from a career-ending smear campaign. In fact, it makes you an even bigger target, because feminism is misandry and they're out to prove all men are evil-- even the ones you think you can trust. That's a more prize catch than a man that women already hate.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/18 03:35 PM
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And here we are folks: a perfect example of a date not going the way she dreamed of, so we destroy a man's career because of some discomfort. After arriving at his apartment in Manhattan on Monday evening, they exchanged small talk and drank wine. “It was white,” she said. “I didn’t get to choose and I prefer red, but it was white wine.” Yup, sounds like a date from hell. Nothing stinks of entitlement here, no sir! She recalls there was still wine in her glass and more left in the bottle he orde…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/18 03:32 PM
0

No, but the hundreds of UMC, hard-working, educated men are more valuable than the thousands that couldn't or didn't make that cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 07:02 PM
1

Status is nearly as big an indicator of attractiveness as looks are. Status literally makes you more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 07:00 PM
2

Inbreeding interrupts the selection process. I don't think selections of delusional historical royalty are a good indicator of something we now understand and avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 06:55 PM
1

That's a seperate threat but certainly valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 06:51 PM
1

Attractiveness. It's no secret that being attractive is life on easy mode. It's makes it easier to accrue resources, influence others, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 06:51 PM
1

Males compete for status. Men of higher status will more frequently have better genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 06:48 PM
1

Who's to say you feeling in control and "being better" than other people is nothing but fake superiority? You don't really get to decide that. You're right, and it's my last three years' straight of work reviews, and friends and family telling me I am all of the aforementioned despite adversity. I base this shit on feedback I've received-- I'm not that delusional (maybe a little, though).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:50 PM
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Do you think being a self-serving asshole (not saying you are, but for the sake of this argument) lessens or increases the odds of others being being altruistic toward you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 04:46 PM
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is female mate selection less ethical than male mate selection? It has to be. If men got pregnant, they'd be less ethical in their selection as well. Men are programmed to fuck a lot, women are programmed to fuck strategically. If it weren't for female hypergamy, we'd be fucked as a species. Why would females intentionally breed with the worst examples of males? It weakens the gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 04:43 PM
3

"If only all guys were like him! You know, except for the guys I'm attracted to."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 04:16 PM
1

I'm not confusing the two. I like being the former-- and the gym helps me to be that way. To me, domineering feels like fake superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 03:40 PM
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And being upstanding only closes doors if you're spineless. Good vs. Evil leaves a whole lot of room for nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 03:16 PM
1

I like to feel in control and better than other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 03:15 PM
8

Being morally lax can also close doors. Or bars, in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 02:57 PM
1

I would say 90's but they're good about updating that equipment, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 02:54 PM
1

Aye, that it does. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 02:25 PM
1

Yes. I work in a kitchen. They only care if the food ordering works and it unfortunately does. I know, I feel like spilling coffee on this thing every day but can't bring myself to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 02:21 PM
1

They're horrendous. The on-board graphics can't even handle moving images.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 02:08 PM
8

You tell me, or are you incapable of gratitude?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 02:03 PM
1

I'm at work and that clickbait excuse for a website froze my computer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 02:00 PM
1

She might, if you played it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 01:56 PM
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Think about all the people who have been good to you and helped you throughout your life. Now, pretend none of that happened and answer your own question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 01:53 PM
1

So you started TRT even though you had normal levels? No judgement here-- genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 01:43 PM
2

I've always been fairly dominant, but the gym gave me the necessary confidence to actually feel dominant. I know this is cringey as fuck, but "iron is a great teacher" etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 01:40 PM
2

Who here has seen the Sopranos? Obviously it's a lot of storytelling, but I feel like the battle between machismo and mental discomfort that Tony feels is exactly what we're talking about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 04:45 PM
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I just think feminism trains women to think the same way, to view men as a disposable commodity to be sucked dry. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 04:38 PM
8

You don't have to have bad mental health to see a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 09:38 PM
8

I'm at maximum engagement ring buying age (29), or at least close. I hear more commiseration and advice than dick-swinging competition. Nobody wants to do this because we all know it's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 08:50 PM
1

But then you miss out on the awesome purple theme!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 08:09 PM
3

This. Lack of upvotes has the same general effect of downvoting, anyway. Shit still gets buried, unless it's circlejerking, in which case it gets modded (usually).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 08:06 PM
1

that answers my question, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 08:04 PM
1

Better morally or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 07:17 PM
3

Honestly, I'm not sure-- I'm reconsidering this position upon second glance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:53 PM
5

One-sided casual sex, aka the "fuck zone". Thanks /u/Mr_Smoogs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:52 PM
1

I agree. However, that little tidbit about actions being moral is conveniently swept under the rug or obfuscated when it fits the "do whatever it takes to get laid" revenge fantasy. AskTRP is rife with guys misapplying TRP theory, and other guys stepping up and co-signing their bullshit because AWALT or whatever and women suck etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:50 PM
1

Sexual strategy is not amoral. This is one of the most dangerous misinterpretations of TRP. The act of sex is amoral. How you get there is absolutely moral/immoral. To think otherwise is pure sociopathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 06:32 PM
1

Read up on Taoism-- submissiveness is almost always superior. It gets a negative connotation in Western culture, but truly powerful people don't need to constantly slap their dick in other people's faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 05:54 PM
1

These people sound petty, miserable, and insecure. In my circles I see more judgement for buying giant rocks because my generation needs rent money and basic needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 04:16 PM
1

What is a "low RMV women"? If a lot of males want to date a female who is attractive, and that is the only reason why they want to date her, is her "RMV" still low? see: the hot/crazy matrix
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 04:12 PM
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Disagree. I think the highest probability of casual sex would be to have an obviously high RMV, but being exclusive about it. "I'm just not looking for a relationship right now." "I'm not interested in having kids." "I'm moving away soon and don't want to start anything." And obviously be very physically attractive and have an open wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 04:10 PM
0

Shit/Comfort tests 101
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 04:05 PM
2

Do you think AWALT/Pill Theory/SMP ramblings have put you into a state of constant fear about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 04:04 PM
4

Not really, they're just invisible on overweight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 03:56 PM
1

There are the other 80% of men that will happily get married with the promise of getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 05:42 AM
2

Holy fuck, stop the presses!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 09:34 PM
6

This anecdote from your immediate family is obviously toxifying your views. Your story is proof of nothing, and the reaction from women when men cheat on them is anything but "wow, what a high quality man".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 07:48 PM
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The fact she can say it was a 'calculated move' and people believe her is what's wrong with this. She didn't say that-- it's just my observation. This points out exactly why cheating for men is ok It's really not. Women can cheat on a dude entirely for their own indulgence at essentially zero effort. And the end result is they respect and value their partner less. Usually, unless she's let herself go physically. A dude cannot find partners anywhere near as effortlessly and his ability to do so i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 07:22 PM
1

I think tons of people are hooked on social media but without posting cleavage selfies every 45 min.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 07:12 PM
4

Not sure why I'm even in PPD, I hate it here Oh please, you get a sick satisfaction out of these stationary bike debates just like the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 06:56 PM
4

That actually wouldn't surprise me. There are kids in the mix too, so that plays into it. Why leave and pay child support from afar, when you can play along and have a say in the spending while you're building a better hand to play with?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 06:53 PM
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It's a bit of a bad faith argument, since marriage is such a strict vetting process. Not marrying somebody is a bad measure of disapproval. For example, I think that if people want to smoke cigarettes, that's fine-- it's on them, but I don't want to marry a smoker.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 06:49 PM
6

Recently my friend's wife cheated on him. The end result? He started lifting and lost about 80 lbs and they're happy again. It was a calculated move, and his smv was too low to play ball so he stuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 06:39 PM
8

Most of the men in this sub came from TRP, and most of TRP has been cheated on. Not surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 06:01 PM
7

as far as anti-slut shaming goes, it's more about sexual liberation in general, and women wanting what men have: the ability to sleep with a ton of people without the social backlash. it gets even murkier when we realize that all men don't enjoy this-- see: fuckboys. the "alpha chad" sex god bullshit is achievable by less than 1% of men. in reality we have lifting bros with tribal tats pretending they're arnold and fucking every low self-esteem girl in the room. do you think that high smv men or…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 05:48 PM
1

Is this bad advice?: "You should treat all snakes as though they were poisonous."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 04:51 PM
1

This is why it is so, so, SO, important that girls be taught to value themselves outside of the male gaze. Basing your entire self esteem and value on the ability to keep and attract a man is a recipe for crazy. Unfortunately, like most things in life, it often takes finding out what doesn't work first. Sex is a bit like drugs in this case, where initially it can feel like the value from sleeping with people is good enough. It feels great, they'll keep doing it. But eventually the small emptines…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 03:41 PM
5

Terps need to rationalize their decisions to avoid LTRs and marriage every time they interact with a woman they like (so, pretty often), and just lumping them all together and slapping a mantra on it is way too convenient to not take root.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 03:19 PM
1

By the time he's in his 30's, let's assume his desires for sexual conquests are over and he's really not interested in the "burden" of having a female around the house. Men also sometimes see sex as a burden because it's generally more work on his end, also he won't have the responsibility of keeping her satisfied. No. T levels and such may start to fall off around then, but men stay interested and driven by sex well into old age-- at least until prostate cancer hits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 06:59 PM
2

It's been a crime for years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 06:54 PM
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Or they just don't care. Or they just don't try. Sort of throws the "involuntary" bit out the window, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 06:21 PM
2

Do you even know what RedPill is? I don't know of any self-proclaimed RP who would choose the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:47 PM
3

Just like with the case of the friend-zone, there are way too many variables to just say "that's appropriate" or "that's inappropriate". The common ground between the two, is that we have an adult unwilling to communicate their expectations, and then getting angry when the other person isn't fulfilling their fantasy. It's nobody else's responsibility to fulfill your fantasies, whether that's sex, or a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:41 PM
5

"Fuck-zoned" is a magnificent addition to my lexicon. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:34 PM
1

Saying "Yes, I am interested in a relationship" like a robot won't be enough to get you laid, which is your goal. If you're gonna lie, you're going to have to play the part to make it convincing. Women aren't idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 03:31 PM
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I don't understand-- what I'm saying isn't any more complicated than what you're saying. How is lying about what you're looking for, dancing around it in every conversation, feigning interest, etc LESS complicated than just saying from the outset that you're not interested in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:54 PM
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Hey man, I'm glad things have worked out for you and everything, but I'm just saying that intentionally lying to women in order to access their sex hole is probably not the best way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:46 PM
1

Even though there are plenty of women on here saying that casual no-strings sex is something some women are interested in? If you're straightforward from the start, and she starts wanting a relationship, that's your reason to leave, and it's perfectly valid. What you're talking about is manipulating girls who aren't interested in casual sex, into casual sex. Fine, do your thing-- but that messy-as-hell break up is on you, partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 02:29 PM
1

Women that I'm not interested in do it all the time. It's called humblebragging and it's terrible. Framing how attractive they are as being some sort of victim-- it's really just a slap in the face to women who would love to have that "problem". But just because I've heard it doesn't mean I think they're the majority, or even plurality. Stupidity is louder than a level head.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 06:45 PM
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For most women, sure. But this is the internet-- we only hear about the women for whom it is a major problem and tantamount to rape-- aka women that do not matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 06:35 PM
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It always weirds me out to see so much analysis thrown at these things, and as far as not liking this type of "training", I'm with the women on this one. Although maybe I should reconsider based on how many women I know that have a relentless attraction to historical serial killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 06:32 PM
1

My father came over to help me replace my furnace yesterday and I realize we've become very good and dancing around the triggering topics and are actually able to have decent political discussions even though we're unaligned on about 50% of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 04:24 PM
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TRP and by extension BP and PPD tend to have a much higher draw for people who feel they've been taken advantage of in some way-- usually cheating or inceldom or a bad divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 04:17 PM
1

they explicitly don't want the guy to be upfront about it, at least not at first, because it creeps them out. Not if he's attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 03:48 PM
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Be ready for a few days of sprinting to the bathroom but after that it's pretty "smooth sailing". Fiber supps recommended.
/r/askTRP02/01/18 10:12 PM
0

if they are just good little bp boys and follow all the rules they will be rewarded with a fine woman to have kids with, only to find out that that's not true either. This ends up being true, but with the caveat that the woman is 36 and has to settle down and pump out kids immediately and after that the sex is scarce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:09 PM
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A lot of TRP men put women on a pedestal for a long time, and many of those men mistakenly think that the corrective action should be men on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:05 PM
1

You can be mindful of others and still be ok with offending them. Whether a person takes offense is not an accurate or final determination of right and wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:21 PM
2

"Start wiping your ass real good after a shit and she'll think you're be able to get some strange on the side."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:14 PM
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That's a shitty goal. Lifelong mostly happy marriage I can get behind. There are tons of bitter old couples who will never divorce and hate each others' guts. That's fine, but I don't consider them an inspiration by any stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:12 AM
5

Men don't have feelings. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:06 AM
5

My grandparents have been married 55 years. BUT I don't think length of time is really the accomplishment once you're past, say, ten years. The fact is they still like eachother, are good for eachother, and are very happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:04 AM
2

Waste of time I will be removing my dick posthaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:58 AM
2

Step 1: Look in mirror Step 2: Did you throw up? Step 3: ???? Step 4: PROFIT
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 06:28 PM
8

If respecting women lasts more than 4 hours, call your doctor right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 06:22 PM
2

Insert a cookie cutter antagonist who wants to destroy the world to end all suffering. CAN'T YOU SEE? THIS IS THE GREATER GOOD. You see it as killing, I see it as setting them freeeeeee...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 06:20 PM
2

Except that you have religions saying that birth control is the devil, abortion is the devil, you better fucking have that kid and they better fucking join this religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 06:17 PM
2

Bullshit, I'm an atheist and I'm happy as fuck. Eternal life sounds horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 06:14 PM
1

I... can't argue with this. Damnit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 06:11 PM
2

Everyone can find love if you just be yourself and be confident and nice or something. Source: INTJ male.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:52 PM
2

If poor people's lives are so not worth living then why don't we round them all up and kill them? NOW WE'RE TALKING SOLUTIONS
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:43 PM
1

Reddit isn't blocked on our computer system at work. This staves off boredom on the slow days. That's about it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:38 PM
1

The earth is flat and the sun revolves around the earth. Wake up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:54 PM
1

Could you put on a... cowl, or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:27 PM
1

Compensating?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:24 PM
1

Is this the new PUBG patch? The Incels run slow af but the radfems have an impossibly slow reload time, who will win?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:18 PM
1

Are these those pills everyone keeps talking about? I expected them to be more blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:15 PM
1

Fellatio.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:12 PM
9

3000 dollars, I'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:14 AM
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I do a full powerlifting workout three times a week, and take every fourth week off. Recovery is as important as the training itself I guess is the point I'm making. Some dudes "hit the gym everyday, yo" and eat brown rice and broccoli and wonder why they're still tiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 09:41 PM
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So you can't have fun without non-consensual sex, and you're confused why people think you're a part of rape culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 09:38 PM
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Everyday gym is overkill IMO. If you're working hard enough, 3 days a week is plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 09:19 PM
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And men should be self-aware that you can't expect an angel to descend from the heavens to pluck you out of your loserhood. Forget this "just be yourself", "you're so nice, someone will scoop you up" bullshit and actually improve yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 08:50 PM
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I would feel hurt and my ego would be bruised. It's no different than if I told her that the only reason I left my ex is because she was too attractive and I figured she would leave me. Not a feel good thing to hear. Quote from myself. This is the answer you wanted, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 08:35 PM
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The answer he's looking for is that women should in fact be with the best man that they can get, and he's correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 08:34 PM
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I would feel hurt and my ego would be bruised. It's no different than if I told her that the only reason I left my ex is because she was too attractive and I figured she would leave me. Not a feel good thing to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 08:25 PM
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It means pairing with someone better than yourself-- but in practice it just means settling for the best you can get, which is usually one deviation above whatever weight you're punching at. If she called me her equal, I don't think I would be offended by that. It's a thing people say regardless of its accuracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 08:23 PM
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She's still being hypergamous if I'm the best she can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 07:55 PM
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Did she actually have the option to settle with someone of higher value? She's not consciously avoiding hypergamy if I'm her best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 07:48 PM
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Wasn't really making a point about women vs. men, rather men vs. other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 07:25 PM
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O R A N G E
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 07:19 PM
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Japan has too many variables to pick out a reliable correlation. There's also an epidemic of workaholism and depression there that will largely affect someone's satisfaction with their sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 06:20 PM
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In my defense he was billed alongside Donald Fagen and Boz Scaggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 05:41 PM
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Go to a Michael McDonald concert and tell me the post-menopausal swooning isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 05:29 PM
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I suppose it's a snowball effect; the more women find a man attractive, the more attractive he becomes. The same is not true from a man's POV. She is already attractive. Don't forget the other snowball: It's easier for attractive men to find success, and therefore to become more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 05:27 PM
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It tickles me that Ed Sheeran keeps getting brought up. Just the other day he came on the radio and I said "I wouldn't be surprised if Ed's harassed a lady or two."-- My wife's reaction was pretty priceless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 05:24 PM
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It's not that women are repulsed by "beta" (friend, provider) traits. We just don't want to be mommies to our husbands. Remember that betas are dependable. But you can't depend on a man who needs to be nagged into civility. This is the truth. So many people here are talking about being beta like it's a bad thing, or that beta includes everything that's not alpha-- both wrong. TRP conditions men to be alpha in all ways and beta is used as a pejorative-- that spills over to PPD. This would be like…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 04:44 PM
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Maybe it's both? I would put 4 years sober on my dating profile (If I had one) both as an achievement and as a disclaimer.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 04:17 PM
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Oh look another "women should date shitty men" post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 03:56 PM
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The short version is I'm doing damn well compared to the shit-assed alcoholic I was at 26. Perspective. I'm plenty relaxed-- just seeing the benefits of recalibrating a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 07:01 AM
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29.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 06:49 AM
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Right but I'm fairly P O O R.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 06:44 AM
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Sunk cost fallacy for myself prioritizing physical fitness and free time over dat money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 06:35 AM
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/r/weightroom seems to be several cuts above most of the other fitness subs.
/r/askTRP30/12/17 06:33 AM
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You know, I'll be big enough to admit that I'm eating crow on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 06:30 AM
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I guess I don't care much because she's generally loved/respected by others and has a good reputation. If the opposite were true I'd probably care a whole lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 06:24 AM
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They're very insecure about losing it, just like most rich or powerful people are insecure about losing their riches or power. This is where all of these recent topics come from: Fear and insecurity. You're right, smart and introspective attractive women will hedge their bets once their looks start to fade. The more dimwitted ones, however, will ungracefully age and get stuck in that god complex just using worse and worse quality men to maintain the lifestyle they're used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 05:01 AM
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You can get away with blatant psychological issues and personality problems and nobody will check you on it because everybody wants to fuck you. It can be a problem for women developmentally, because they never have to form healthy coping or defense mechanisms. Horrible behavior is swept under the rug because you can always find some relatively successful guy to co-sign your shit because he wants to fuck you. Sometimes women get out of that cycle, but sometimes they end up as spray-tanned chain-…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 04:48 AM
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How many threads is this now in a few weeks trying to dissolve the idea of the wall? I think we're up to 6. We all know women are desperate to look younger, there are billions of dollars spent on it all the way up til they're in the grave. Hey people, it's ok to be past your prime, really-- it's ok. The most unattractive thing a woman can wear is denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 04:42 AM
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Better than that "free spirit" pathological contrarianism my generation seems to get so wrapped up in. Both extremes are paths to an empty and depressing existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 11:14 AM
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Maybe I'll give it a try, I'd mostly given up on the genre. GotG2 was great though so I'm reconsidering.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 09:33 PM
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How many of the women who go to such a screening are less like the character they're celebrating, and more like the girl I knew in college? Seems like a mental disconnect to me. This quote is from OP but what you're referring to is exactly what I was thinking about when I read it-- that the average man that goes to see Thor or whatever is out these days is nothing like Thor. Nerd fantasy equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 09:14 PM
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Same. Thank god for a friendly gym and for a job that's socially demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 08:59 PM
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I don't think it matters all that much unless the difference is so huge that one person actually gets resentful over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 02:37 PM
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I don't think either of us has a better vocabulary. I probably have a better command because I'm egotistical, but she reads a lot more so I wouldn't be surprised if she had better comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 01:48 AM
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It works when done subtly and skillfully, but is obvious and weird when overdone-- kind of like make-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 05:14 PM
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Not much different than guys, actually-- once people stop putting up with someone's bullshit, they hit bottom pretty quickly. Sometimes it never happens-- some people can find enablers all the way to their grave.
/r/askTRP27/12/17 04:07 PM
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People who are always late (even for informal shit) are basically saying "I think it's reasonable to expect you to sit around for 20 minutes waiting for me".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 03:31 PM
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Make a reasonable judgement call just like with all red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 03:26 PM
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People make unnatural faces for the camera because they're overly concerned or attention-seeking with their looks. Duckface particularly attempts to emulate attractive facial features associated with feminine beauty (prominent cheek bones, full lips).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 03:23 PM
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the women become born again virgins Born again virgins with the possibility of mega slut relapse*. FTFY. Source: AA for 4 years.
/r/askTRP27/12/17 02:31 PM
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Can't believe this hasn't been mentioned yet: Overactive social media presence. If her instagram or fb or whatever has multiple posts per day or even per week, she has problems. Bonus flags if there are a lot of selfies and those selfies include non-accidental cleavage/duck face/humblebrags.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 01:56 PM
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She works her core just by standing upright.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 01:53 PM
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I'm not saying don't bother with money. Money will make your life, and getting laid, easier. But pretending that money makes you a sex god or irresistable to women is naive.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/17 04:12 AM
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Women fuck rich men that they are completely unattracted to. Chance of getting laid does not equal SMV, as strange as that sounds. Money will get you laid, but it won't wet panties-- that's the difference.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/17 01:19 AM
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I know I'm one of them. I make an excuse every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 03:25 AM
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We had a xmas party, but our staff is about 95% female.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 03:49 PM
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They actually used this joke in an Always Sunny episode and it was hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 02:26 PM
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I would still call that immoral strategy, not the sex itself. Same with rape-- it's sexual strategy taken to an immoral extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 04:45 AM
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sexual strategy is amoral wrong. sex is amoral-- strategy is anything but.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:35 PM
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You must be in the top 20% of breakfast cooks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 08:14 PM
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I got great news this week: my wife gets to keep her boob. Stage two breast cancer diagnosed in November and finally got clean margins after three surgeries. Wish us luck with chemo in January.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 08:08 PM
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Second thing, Star Wars is probably the most overrated franchise in history. It's ok for people to enjoy things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 08:06 PM
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this is what it seems to me would make men on PPD happy: First of all it's really cute that you think the men here could be made happy. Women should write whatever the hell they want on their profile. Unrealistic standards don't hurt anybody except the person making them. Guys: Stop acting like girls' online dating profiles are metrics that you need to live up to. If you think you don't have a chance with her, you don't. Full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 07:58 PM
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Low quality people are in denial, plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 05:49 PM
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I don't think it's any stretch to say that women don't appreciate a big dick. Pun police here: Tell me I'm not the only one who caught this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 05:21 PM
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Maybe lesbians bitch about women more because there are twice as many women in every scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:52 PM
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I want my robot to be easy on the eyes, so I'm staying in shape til the day I'm replaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:47 PM
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"We're doing it for the kids" is one of the oldest governmental tricks-- It gets people elected, and it balances budgets. Just say you're doing it for the good of the kids and people will throw votes and money in your direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:30 PM
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I don't think women's standards are too high at all. I think that men are getting the wrong message about what's attractive, and women don't correct it because nobody wants to admit they're shallow. There's not enough attractive men. do you feel that women are realistic when it comes to knowing what sort of man they are entitled to? Maybe the bold has more to do with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:21 PM
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This is an impossible question, because of the absurdity of the hypothetical. I do think people are underestimating their own inner sexual drive, though. Would I even have "self-improved" the point I have without the possibility of sex? The classic self-improvement story is: "Fat guy is depressed/lonely, fat guy gets in shape, fat guy gets the girl." I enjoy weightlifting, but I also enjoy that it makes me more attractive-- and I think people that say they don't care about that are full of shit.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 05:17 PM
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I think plenty of people on these forums have fine self-esteem, and just participate for fun. I know that's a wildly simple concept for someone as woke as yourself, but it just might be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 11:45 PM
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Oh god these are sad/scary individuals. Usually alcoholic or chain smokers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 07:22 PM
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Values and all that jazz are secondary. Niiice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 07:16 PM
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I have no statistical evidence, but just something I've seen a few examples of: I see middle-class strivers pairing off with very beta, SAHD-types. I would suspect for the reason you state: extremely high career investment and finding a guy that will facilitate child-rearing. My boss is married to this type: and I can't see her slowing down because of a kid-- she's bull-horned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 04:54 PM
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Chicken and egg. That what it takes (in many traditional careers) to get ahead. Women that are equally as assertive as men in similar positions will be seen as bitchy, while the men may be seen as kind of a dick-- but that reprehension isn't nearly as harsh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 04:41 PM
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Lots of redpillers aren't looking to LTR or marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 04:38 PM
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yyyyyyyyup.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 04:34 PM
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I view that as a red flag now. I'm glad I didn't have to learn the hard way-- it's definitely the red flag of our times.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 04:13 PM
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I call it "Hot Ham Water."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 04:09 PM
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All you have to do now is cradle the balls of corporate lobbyists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 03:45 PM
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If anything, I think there's more danger in marrying/LTR'ing a virgin. Someone who's only had sex with one person is bound to wonder what it would be like with somebody else. Would much rather have a "been there, done that" type, but not having gone full turbo slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 03:32 AM
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I'm not equating the two, just pointing out that something being possible, doesn't mean it's necessarily fair. I think you're so used to seeing false equivalencies on reddit, that you actually made the leap yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 02:40 AM
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I was unaware that only minorities could experience prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:57 AM
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I suppose they should be triggered with that one too A lot of them are, and this tradition seems to falling by the way side.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:53 AM
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There's some truth to what you're saying, IMO. To take your gambling comparison further, though, it's more like someone who is shit at blackjack kept losing at blackjack. Somebody taught them how to play, and now they win more frequently. They won't always win, but they're winning a hell of a lot more than they used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:52 AM
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Certainly you would agree there's a large amount of available ground between having a choice to, and being prohibited from. That's like saying black people have never been prohibited from being accepted at universities, therefore racism hasn't existed in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:39 AM
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You can not tell women what they must do. There's really nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with giving women the choice to enter STEM. The issue is that while everyone's butting heads to get into STEM you won't see women complaining about inequality in the other blue-collar, risky, grungy labor jobs simply because they don't have to or want to. SAHM is acceptable, SAHD is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:37 PM
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Maybe if they grow big/fast enough to compete with other mechanics it will become an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:31 PM
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Thanks for taking the time to share.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:28 PM
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I might be speaking out-of-pocket on the state of things and admittedly I'm not hearing both sides, but these definitely aren't scumbag men. One's in AA (sober over 7 years, and sober before the kids were around, positive work history, volunteers, etc, before anyone tries to paint him bad), the other's a gym buddy. Neither are the type to victimize themselves. Interesting that you have experience as a child in that scenario. How do you feel that's influenced your views on the subject?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:58 PM
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My bad, I don't know my legal terms very well. Would've been after a hearing, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:44 PM
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Explain to me what those hurdles are. Going to court? Negotiating with opposing counsel? Participating at a hearing? Obtaining a lawyer? Or are you referring to overcoming factors that place the primary caretaker with a stronger case for residential custodianship? I know two men at the moment fighting tooth-and-nail for more custody, but can't get it because they were arbitrated against initially. Neither the mother or father are "bad" parents, but he has to somehow prove that he deserves more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:31 PM
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It's the part before a break-up where they make sure they can fly on their own before leaving the comfortable nest of codependency.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:18 PM
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It is on men to enforce their parental rights like custody/visitation The hurdles are pretty ridiculous, as it stands. This, IMO, should be the starting/default in all states Agreed. The law should not default to being punitive toward one party.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:11 PM
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It's easier for women to be the high-investing parent when the state agrees that the child needs its mother no matter what, but fatherhood is optional and money is an acceptable substitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:49 PM
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Jennifer Aniston. Your point is invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:31 PM
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All men think Kim Kardashian is unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:27 PM
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Since you brought it up: These are the feminists I can get behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:21 PM
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MGTOW is not representative of all men, try a different forum-- one not pre-selected to support your claim. This would be like citing three articles on Breitbart and saying that all conservative news is a certain way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:19 PM
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I clicked on this topic hoping that this would be the discussion, and was disappointed. Glad to see I'm not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:13 PM
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I think the argument is more about what "fair" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:12 PM
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Avoiding conflict is female nature No, females LOVE conflict/drama. But they're much better at muddying the waters and turning any fact- or logic-based argument into an emotional one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 07:50 PM
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That's because Tumblr is afraid to use the word "women".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 07:41 PM
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Nah men are worse. Go on MGTOW. A guy complained that his da If one MGTOW represents all men, then one woman saying "must be 6 ft." represents all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 07:40 PM
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I'll add too that this is so important that it should be like second date conversation. Not a whole discussion but just a simple "are you interested in having kids some day?". Yes or no. Work the details out as you go, but it should be on the table early. Save everyone some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 07:29 PM
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tl;dr -- "tl;dr"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 10:29 PM
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Not gonna repeat myself again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 11:08 PM
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Emphasis on "just".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 11:08 PM
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First of loooooooooooooooooooooooooool. Ok. Secondly define positive masculinity. "Overcoming challenges and pushing yourself mentally and physically to symbolize what manliness should embody." I would also add self-sufficiency and curiosity of spirit. "just be you", something that's not even remotely instilled in western world men Speak for yourself. This is a large reason for the existence of TRP, inceldom, "nice guys"tm, etc. I did. That doesn't mean I am going to remember everything you said…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 10:49 PM
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Rituals have existed in the past, and I think they would be a good thing to bring back.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 10:32 PM
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I agree that people should wait to jump into college. We just paid off my wife's student loans and it took selling a house to do so. I hope your piece of paper does the lifting that it's supposed to!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 08:39 PM
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Do you at least feel more pretentious? Jokes aside, congratulations!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 08:00 PM
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No you see, her cheating is your fault because so and so!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 07:34 PM
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So, you let a woman control your life? What are you talking about? Women choosing partners based on competitive status does not equal letting a woman control my life? It sees like you have a lot of preconceived notions about me. I see from your statements this conversation is already order given that you will response with nothing but the common manta that woman choose who men are. Women choose from what men have determined among themselves. If women chose the status of men, women could select "…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 06:48 PM
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Doesn't take that long to explain that men compete, determine status, and then women choose based on that status. Manhood is earned by maintaining status over a period of time. If you want a more specific answer you'll have to go the high council of men on Mt. Phallus. The men who want to proclaim that manhood can't be earned are really far down in the pecking order. It's easier to call it all bullshit than to actually self-improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 06:27 PM
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The same way we make a distinction for a boss sleeping with his subordinate by using his power as a tool and a boss sleeping with someone due to mutual enthusiastic consent. Taking their word for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 03:35 PM
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That would've been three gay men, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 03:29 PM
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When it's done right, with common sense, an attractive woman can pretty much write her own ticket by sleeping with management and being patient. If you're willing to sleep with people for professional mobility, what used to be good has only gotten better. If you don't get what you want, just blackmail the guy until you do. Thanks, #metoo!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 03:28 PM
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She said biological male role and I'm so triggered I could puke.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 03:22 PM
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Why should it exist? To encourage positive masculinity. Perfect example is the old Scottish feats of strength. Overcoming challenges and pushing yourself mentally and physically to symbolize what manliness should embody. Something to combat the "just be you" indoctrination of men in the western world that actually contributes to a negative masculine identity and self-resentment. Is it? Who decree a man has manliness? Women? Other men? Supreme leader potato? Did you even read my previous posts or…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 01:49 PM
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Most people here don't hate women. In fact a large part of this board is about having more women in your life. Seeing through their bullshit does not equal hatred.
/r/askTRP19/12/17 05:34 AM
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Me and my now wife both got tested before we had sex. Aren't we cute? Obviously we were both around for the brunt of propaganda we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 05:01 AM
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Which by and large doesn't exist least in the western world. Doesn't mean they shouldn't. Insert the myriad complaints about the pussification of America blah blah blah. Manliness is still earned, and it's not earned by doing traditionally feminine things (see: "real men share their feelings" type indoctrination). People are hierarchical Men are hierarchical in different ways than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 04:51 AM
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Just saying people have ways of painting themselves to be less shallow than they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 03:01 AM
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Manhood isn't something you earn. If you're a man, you're a man. Nope. Rights of passage and all of that. Men are hierarchical: your status in the pecking order is constantly scrutinized, and failure to maintain your position results in less status. The thing is, men don't talk about this, never acknowledge it-- it just happens. But I assure you, it's very real. It seems like you're just talking about the dictionary definition of a man, which is pretty useless for this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 02:46 AM
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Bottom line is that instead of paying for a maid, you're insisting that your partner do it for free. It shouldn't be difficult to see why that would cause resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 02:36 AM
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She probably likes both. It's like guys with fit chicks, there are all sorts of reasons-- "She's got great work ethic and discipline", "She takes care of herself", "She respects her body". Oh right and also she's a smokin' hottie which is why I fell for her in the first place. "He's got great work ethic", "He's earned the respect of his peers", "He's knows how to get shit done." Oh right and he's filthy rich which is why I fell for him in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 01:53 PM
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If you want to buy your way out of chores, pay for a maid. Am I the only person on the planet that doesn't see chores as that big of a deal? We have washing machines, dishwashers, vacuum cleaners, lawn mowers, snow blowers. The modern household isn't a full-time job like it used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 01:46 PM
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I think the guy is probably pretty glad she turned him down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 01:38 PM
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Yup. Most men don't have very good self-discipline or habits during the early 20's. They might drink too much, stay out too late, chase short-term happiness a LOT. They might still be in college and don't have much time for the gym. Around the late twenties/early thirties men who have successfully "launched" understand that discipline and effort over a period of time are extremely valuable principles. The gym and body reflect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 03:36 AM
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I've only met one. In a Narcotics Anonymous meeting. You know. For drug addicts. She was a piece of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 10:23 PM
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Exactly. The part of TRP that actually "wakes men up" is the part that convinces them that what they were indoctrinated with is wrong. The self-improvement stuff is common sense, but stuff like breaking out of doormat mentality, "just being yourself", a girl will like you for you, etc. can be very difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 05:23 PM
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It's only a matter of time til the only "true" victims left are bi-racial, transgender, handicap, poor people with a host of self-diagnosed mental disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 05:02 AM
2

Mads' cheekbones are the stuff of legend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 07:43 PM
5

How many men specifically like saggy boobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 07:02 PM
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Didn't say they were equal, just analogous in that they're dependent completely on genetics (Barring surgical procedures and the like-- and those are extreme efforts and out of reach for most women. Also the stigma with those things is very real.).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 07:01 PM
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The best way to not worry about losing her is to be as attractive as possible and to be continually improving yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 06:48 PM
4

Isolating characteristics like that is not how female attraction works And "women tend to prefer men with certain body types" can both exist at the same time. Yet a massive number of people here seem to think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 05:56 PM
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Studies with multiple variables would be even more flawed, but with the added feature of producing literally no usable data.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 05:52 PM
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Again I'm not arguing that personality doesn't enter into it. Women settling for less because his personality is decent doesn't mean that they wouldn't prefer him to have a better body. They're just batting in their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 05:49 PM
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I guess I see hamstering the issue into oblivion to be the same as ignoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 05:41 PM
3

Some brief research puts the usage at around 8% for females, for all dating apps. Small yes, but still relevant. What about hookup culture? Not everybody is trying to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 05:38 PM
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Are you all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 05:33 PM
1

Maybe if you had actually read my original response you would see that's all I was trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 05:11 PM
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But as I get to know them, I would find a 6/10 shorter guy who adores me and is intelligent and If you swiped left on their profile, you would never get to know them. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 05:10 PM
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if you're trying to argue that personality isn't part of the equation I'm not. I'm talking about female preferences for male bodies. Even if that means liking one picture over another, is that not relevant in today's internet dating culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 04:49 PM
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By your logic sniffing glue is natural and normal because it makes our brains feel good Actually, yes. Addiction is literally the survival system at work. The brain rewards itself with dopamine when it senses that things will lead to its survival (high-calorie food, sex, comfort, etc). It's what makes overcoming addiction so difficult-- the lower brain perceives getting and using the drug as a life and death scenario. Furthermore, you're conflating a feeling of acceptance within a group to feeli…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 04:37 PM
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The whole point of the study is to isolate physical characteristics. I'm sure you could do studies that isolate personalities, too (blindfolded interaction or whatever). Single variable studies are to create useful data?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 04:25 PM
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See maybe I'm strange, but I think the need to feel superior to other people isn't something fundamental to human nature. I think that's a societal influence and it's a toxic one in my opinion. But human nature is societal. We're tribal. Feeling superior feels good for a reason-- it resonates in a deep part of our brain and tells us that now people won't reject us and that our survival is protected.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 04:02 PM
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If you have experienced this, how do you mentally process the fact that so many men were just WAITING for a chance to sleep with and or date you. Being your confidant and sometime drinking buddy... while wanting to sleep with you. Being that guy you occasionally see at parties... while wanting to sleep with you. Interacting professionally at work... while wanting to sleep with you. It's called being a sexually attractive human being, and while the crown sits heavy, I assure you it's better than …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 03:57 PM
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So when studies are done that show what body type women tend to favor, the preferences are to be completely ignored?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 03:46 PM
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Women find most men physically unattractive (mostly neutral/non-sexual) until she learns his personality. Which is a roundabout way of saying that there is a very high bar for physical characteristics for men to inspire lust in women. You can do other stuff to be generally attractive to women, but those things don't make you more physically attractive to all women, just the one who's "learned your personality".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 03:34 PM
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The analog for men's height is women's cup size/hip size which can be maximized by fitness but are ultimately determined by genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 03:29 PM
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I... would greatly enjoy seeing those.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 11:41 PM
1

It was/is but the people asking for it were/are gagged or crucified.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 11:37 PM
1

It's something that a parody of Rollo would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 07:09 PM
1

It's certainly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 07:08 PM
3

It's almost like we should leave the judgement to... wait for it... JUDGES.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 07:01 PM
1

Higher learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 06:51 PM
1

What people want to believe has FAR more influence on what they believe than petty things like "truths" or "facts".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 06:45 PM
2

Complete removal of the welfare state. Start with corporate welfare and I might agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 06:14 PM
3

Or any woman who had sex with someone after me because whataslut.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 06:11 PM
8

Fuck, we can barely afford avocados.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 06:09 PM
1

Username checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 06:08 PM
1

"Because I wanted to." is the only answer you need.
/r/askTRP15/12/17 06:04 PM
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My wife's biological mother is diagnosed BPD and it's hell. We cut her out of our lives because of it. BPD is frequently a casual, uneducated diagnosis (Kind of like "I'm so OCD", "I'm allergic to gluten", etc.) which really pulls a genuine diagnosis out of perspective. My cousin has Celiac disease, and it's horrible-- hospitalized 15 times before the age of ten. All of the cry-wolf "gluten allergies" means that people don't take her seriously anymore and she cannot and should not eat at restaur…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 04:35 PM
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Women want to separate the "real men" from the ones just faking it. It's like pre-pre-selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 04:02 PM
1

The war on terror has given rise to even more nefarious terrorism. Diplomacy and isolationism are the only hopeful options.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:49 PM
1

The little boy in all of them wants to be Morpheus and it's hilarious and nerdy and also a little sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:28 AM
1

they'd be jumping on every girl and fighting each other like monkeys. Eh, only from ages 13-30. No big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:23 AM
3

Ferris Wheel is a pretty good one. Two people per car and you get a good long time to see the highs and lows of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:19 AM
1

LUNK ALARM
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:14 AM
1

10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:13 AM
2

I'm no saying what she did was right! How is this not getting through?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:59 AM
2

Her having a higher chance of cheating due to going through a hard time is not the same thing as saying it's an excuse for her cheating or saying it was right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:10 AM
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Predictions for the next thread: "How many love points is sex worth?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:09 AM
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I'm done with this thread because every single response has been putting words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:03 AM
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I don't know what you expect to hear-- tough titties? I haven't once argued that you can guarantee fidelity, just improve your odds. You rolled double ones. Non-smokers get lung cancer. Your one case doesn't apply uniformly to all women. You even said she was going through a lot at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 01:44 AM
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"You mean when you get married it's impossible to predict or account for a lifetime of personal, emotional, spiritual, and physical changes?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 08:30 PM
14

Hahaha, PPD doesn't even know how to respond to candor. All the questions are like they're investigating an alien creature. "You say you... got bored with him? Fascinating."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 08:23 PM
8

Stop, stop! My popcorn is almost ready, then you can continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 08:08 PM
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No, everything must be ammo for the gender war. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 08:04 PM
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Knocked it out of the park. Of course there's some bias-- I speak from my own experience. I can admit my own bias. I was cheated on back when I was a massive loser (skinnyfat, alcoholic, bad job, etc). Since I've turned my life around, I haven't been cheated on. I'm not naive enough to presume it will never happen, but I actively improve what I can within myself to make it less likely. If it happens, I'll bounce back quickly. Don't bitch that your car died on you if you don't maintain that shit.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 07:22 PM
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The part of TRP I agree with is the pragmatism of just being the most sexually attractive man you can be and hope for the best. Manipulative attempts to control branch swinging are self-defeating. Lift, make money, be a man she wants to be with. Even if she decided to move on, I would know it was her and not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 05:38 PM
1

Yup. All of these fringe beliefs can get a foothold in regular society because now any lunatic with an internet connection can find a crowd of people to echo themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 05:29 PM
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I'm about as un-hippie as they come. Just thought I'd poke fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 05:20 PM
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I'm not saying high value people never cheat, but certainly not as frequently as your average trailer trash. The problem is you take a bad experience and then perpetuate it forever by only engaging with loose women and then saying "See?! All women are like this! AWALT, AWALT!". It's like only buying cars with known transmission issues and then telling people not to buy any cars because all transmissions are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 05:19 PM
0

Wow, like... chill out man...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 05:13 PM
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It was a rhetorical question. I thought the quote I used made that clear.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 05:11 PM
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This is one of the main reasons I couldn't swallow the red pill. It's a chicken and egg situation of TRP'ers banging low value women (because they're easy pickin's) and then using their experience with those women to form opinions about ALL women. Most of them were cheated on once, probably because they were a massive loser at the time, and they let that poison their views for the rest of their dating lives-- talk about butthurt. But of course they don't actually care right? So alpha, right? Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 05:09 PM
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I don't understand why this is relevant. Strong body is always a plus despite what one's face looks like. There is no reason to be weak-- just laziness and denial.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 05:01 PM
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Does that mean pretty boys won't benefit from having strong bodies? To quote the great Mark Bell: "Strength is never a weakness."
/r/TheRedPill13/12/17 07:53 PM
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Women who never lower their standards and don't compromise will eventually have no men to choose from. At some point they can decide that what they can get is worth going for. If they don't, tough shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 07:50 PM
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You don't have to do all of that to get laid. You probably have deeply instilled belief systems or some ingrained moral leanings preventing you from having casual sex. Or you don't look the part. Even the avid RPer's talk about how just getting pussy all the time becomes an empty existence. All people desire connection in varying degrees. People get unhappy when they start chasing after everything without knowing what they actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:53 PM
2

I have spent a lot of time in both, and I find the negative aspects of being a relationship to be more tolerable than the negative aspects of being single. If somebody proclaims they are happy being single, why would I try to convince them to change? Happiness is created, not received.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:40 PM
1

Joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 06:30 AM
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Her only hope is finding a triple beta flubfish who for some reason gets off on juggling her neuroses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 06:11 AM
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Everything doesn't happen for a reason. The universe is chaotic and uncaring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 06:09 AM
2

Tell that to the women pushing 40 still waiting for that best guy to show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:45 AM
2

Careful that sounds like harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:24 AM
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What is good news has absolutely nothing to do with what is important. Correlated sure, but not caused.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:16 AM
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It wasn't. Sickly and bald doesn't look good on anyone, just trying to say that fertility alone is not a woman's value.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 11:24 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 11:23 PM
5

I fully believe that was designed to fail, in order to be a stepping stone to universal health care. Obamacare was and is garbage. I'm not a big fan of universal healthcare, either (see: the VA), but the arguments for free market solutions that politicians peddle are laughably thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:55 PM
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My wife is infertile due to cancer and I can tell you there's more to it than that. It's not like she magically became unattractive. She still puts in the effort to be the best version of herself that she can be. The advice is about caring for yourself, and living up to your potential. I feel like that advice applies as much to women as it does to men. Everything isn't a gender war.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:49 PM
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How the hell does "be the best version of yourself you can be" seem like masculine advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:39 PM
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