Do men complain too much?

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2018-04-08T15:35:10+00:00

there is highly concentrated complaining of all groups on the internet

frankly, everyone complains too much

squidracer · 2018-04-08T16:39:36+00:00

No, men don't complain enough. For decades we just accepted our role as provider asking nothing more then just a little appreciation.

Not only do women not appreciate anything you do for them, they now critize and berate men on a massive scale.

Funny how women can't take a dose of their own medicine

Pope_Lucious · 2018-04-08T17:26:39+00:00

You’re complaining about men complaining too much.

Welcome to the internet.

People bitch.

storffish · 2018-04-08T15:30:12+00:00

no, just the lonely reddit navel gazers

LewisCross · 2018-04-08T15:33:44+00:00

Of course, today's modern women will say this.

Men probably do complain too much, but in light of today's society and how it (and women) treat the average man, men have a lot to complain about.

rulenumber303 · 2018-04-08T15:39:13+00:00

There's too many men who complain too much, but that doesn't mean the average guy is complaining too much.

theambivalentrooster · 2018-04-08T18:21:50+00:00

They sure do on reddit.

daveofmars · 2018-04-08T21:08:24+00:00

I think I woke up in an different dimension this morning because aren't women the ones complaining about nearly fucking everything? I seem to recall a year or two women complaining about how air conditioning temperature is sexist. Give 'em an excuse to complain and they'll find it. They'll even complain about men complaining.

darksoldierk · 2018-04-08T21:44:42+00:00

Men don't have voice anymore, their voices are silenced. We pay more taxes than women, we are given the short end on every social issue (abortion, child support, alimony, exclusively male affecting illnesses, mortality rate etc etc), we are antagonized in every aspect of society and finally, we are blamed for every problem that a woman has. We are forced to carry more responsibilities than women but are told that we are sexist when we discuss equal responsibility for equal rights.

In the past, men would use their aggression and physical advantage to fix these kinds of issues. They would use their position of power obtained through wits or hard work, but they aren't allowed to do that anymore. Can you imagine a politician who stood up and said "I will make male circumcision illegal", he'd be laughed out the party before he left the conference. Imagine a political party that wants to reallocate funds from breast cancer research to prostate cancer research in order to equalize the funding, that would be career suicide. Men have been stripped of any power or influenced in our society, and it wasn't done by violence or wits. Men in power weren't dragged out of their offices and hanged until dead. Women didn't come up with political parties that had better fiscal or social policies. The change happened because women complained and bitched until change was forced. Women didn't earn their position in modern society, they complained until they got it. Think of the BOD situations, women want to implement gender quotas in boards of director positions as opposed to encouraging other women to build their own companies and hire the best qualified person. Their brought change by complaining.

So, why should men do anything else? why should they use wit and intelligence to bring change, when all they have to do is complain until someone gets annoyed enough to force a change?

wracky272 · 2018-04-08T15:53:13+00:00

This is what happens when we tell men that they should be sharing their feelings more.

Is it possible that women complain just as much, but because it's much more socially acceptable for women to complain, you don't notice it as much?

LooksMatterToWomen · 2018-04-09T00:53:38+00:00

Like it or not, many of their complaints are legitimate. This is gaslighting.

prostate-apostate · 2018-04-08T15:44:04+00:00

No more than they did in the past you just can see this more since the internet allows you to view these groups online .

Gravel_Roads · 2018-04-08T17:15:12+00:00

On this thread, absolutely. In real live meatspace, I don’t see it as much. Complainers and bullies always feel entitled to blaming others.

Yes, it’s utterly unattractive. Nah, it’s not really gender specific.

FairlyNaive · 2018-04-08T16:06:56+00:00

I agree. We need more of a good old toxic masculinity in order to make men spend less time expressing their pesky feelings.

Priene · 2018-04-08T16:12:03+00:00

Men can't stop complaining. It's incredibly annoying. They complain about their height, their hairline, their obesity, they complain about women, they complain about their race, their skin colour, they complain about having to approach women, they complain about having to talk to hot women to get them unlike ''chad'' who just farts and an harem of 18 year old nymphos 10/10 materialize themselves around him, and they complain about everything in life.

NalkaNalka · 2018-04-08T16:03:55+00:00

It just seems that way because woman are used to doing all the complaining about men and men just shutting up and taking it.

carefreevermillion · 2018-04-08T15:55:09+00:00

Humans complain because it's universal that life is hard, so it gives us common ground to bond over.

Eartherry · 2018-04-08T18:47:51+00:00

Yeah, but they set their standards as high as women do. Then they get angry at women for not having to live up to them, like they do if they want to attract a woman. We're being made to accept blame for the downsides of both of our genders. It's like Adam and Eve.

JTRonald · 2018-04-08T20:24:05+00:00

Men don't really complain that much in the real world so... no.

wtknight · 2018-04-08T20:38:23+00:00

I think it's mostly an internet phenomenon. Most guys know if they complained the same amount in real life as they do on the internet that they wouldn't be attractive to women at all.

trail22 · 2018-04-09T23:11:35+00:00

Pretty sure if men were able to express difficulty in life and get support, then there would be far less suicide in this world.

oftheinfinite · 2018-04-08T16:13:47+00:00

Good. The more men complain, make fun, and give women the cold shoulder, the better. Maybe you should view it as a reaction. Women have done very little and were peripheral over the course of history, including modern times, yet in a span of a few decades, they became unduly loud, cocky, and bombastic (when men allowed them to). Women are the lazy, incompetent, entitled coward that talks big tough guy talk while standing behind a couple of giant muscular galoot body guards. Women are allowed to be weak and flawed without it being used as a cudgel against their femininity while also allowed to be strong and empowered without it being used as a cudgel against their femininity. All their failures and mediocrities are explained away with patriarchy and every pathetic little accomplishment is given a pat on the back, "you go girl!" and a YouTube doodle on Women's Day. If men complain, it goes against the "natural order" of man being stoic, who is is expected by tradcons on the right and feminists to put up and shut up--to man up, to stop being a "soyboy". It's easy and fun to take shots at masculinity. Every body loves doing, especially women. And when men complain about unfairness and hostility thanks to feminism, they are condescendingly told that they are not entitled to be treated like kings. Wut?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Yn3i-DMKw

bababoobiddlybop · 2018-04-08T15:43:30+00:00

Just like sexual market value the tide changes at age 30. After age 30 women start complaining more they can’t find the prince charming they came to expect. Look for lots more women to complain as more and more men find The Red Pill and leave the plantation. Good luck fending for yourselves.

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Maikowski2 · 2018-04-08T16:05:23+00:00

Those are all objective statements by men you mentioned. Why you chose those?

hammerhaunts · 2018-04-08T16:58:57+00:00

I've never complained to a woman in real life like that

WhatIsThisAccountFor · 2018-04-08T19:20:50+00:00

They have an opinion about everything a woman does, for example they claim that women are too fat, women are too masculine.

If you don't exhibit these traits, why would he complain about them? He might compliment that you aren't "like most women" if you do not, but maybe they're complaining because you exhibit things they dislike in women?

If you're referring to the internet, the internet is where everyone goes to complain about everything. I bet you could find a group of people dedicated to complaining about the shape of Doritos chips if you look hard enough.

truedemocracy3 · 2018-04-08T20:37:19+00:00

Complaining about anything is a turn off, yes. If you are talking about this sub - gender role discussion is the entire point. I can make a post here about problems with modern dating culture, but only losers really complain about that in real life

blackedoutfast · 2018-04-08T21:47:19+00:00

some men are just frustrated and venting. RPers going through the anger phase.

but also, all women ARE flawed and imperfect (this is an inherent part of being human) but a lot of them still expect to be treated like perfect little princesses.

Million-Suns · 2018-04-08T21:51:47+00:00

I'm not sure what's the point of this thread, regardless of the responses:

Yes, men complain too much
No, men don't complain too much

Alright, then, what???

If you ask me, humans regardless of genders don't complain enough, or complain too much and don't act enough to change the situations they complain about. It's both

alias_guy88 · 2018-04-08T21:55:57+00:00

I feel men who complain the most about women are over invested. I feel like I repeat myself on a lot of subs, but being over invested in women will cause men to over analyze, and when they 'predict the perfect formula' for seduction, and it doesn't work, they get frustrated. Some men will follow red pill and still not see the results they wanted, so they'll sink deeper into beliefs that all women are bad or that all women will only be attracted to a certain type of guy. Some men will follow PUA and get pissed off when that doesn't work and blame the lines they used, getting annoyed that their performance should have worked and can't understand why women would think otherwise. Some men will follow the nice guy approach and bottle their resentment as they fail with each girl one after the after, being super white knight in the hopes that one day they'll rescue that princess. If men lived honestly, with honest intentions they would find they would 1. Pick up a lot more. 2. Be a lot more happier as they live life their way. 3. Wouldn't complain (as much or very little)

But why are more men complaining? My theory is, men are losing their grasp on masculinity, and if you read 'No More Mr Nice Guy' by Dr Glover, he talks about the effects taken place post industrialism and how men are becoming more disconnected from one another. As we have continued down this path, men are sinking even further into non masculine traits, with a giant shift of core beliefs. For instance, men believe it's not okay to talk about their sexual desires nor express themselves in the bedroom, but the majority of women think a man being honest in the bedroom is quite a attractive.

AllModsAreLikeThat · 2018-04-08T21:58:39+00:00

The greatest irony is that OP could be accused of complaining.

Jammerly1 · 2018-04-08T22:37:37+00:00

YES.

newName543456 · 2018-04-09T06:41:13+00:00

As if women weren't complaining - "where have all the good men gone?" etc. etc.

gabriot · 2018-04-09T06:44:05+00:00

On the internet maybe, but in real life interactions not even fucking close. Whether it be in a relationship, just friends, or just bullshitting at the office - women BY FAR complain more and it isn't even remotely a contest. Anyone that says otherwise doesn't actually get out much.

solorathain · 2018-04-09T07:36:55+00:00

I agree that men complain too much. They are becoming like women.

TheCheese666999 · 2018-04-09T14:23:35+00:00

Yes, and no. You'll notice the trend of men to tend to blame Feminism for many societal problems, (at least in MGTOW and Redpill), and many Anti-Fems are men. Videos from people like BPS, TFM, and others with more extremist ideas spout these views, usually with some inherent societal bias in men, like gynocentrism. Now, these claims aren't unwarranted, as men face bias in family courts, as well as in workplace fatalities, and education. (System biased towards women.) However, most of these claims are not enough to be warranted for the amount of coverage that they do, just like the wage gap.

lbspredh · 2018-04-09T15:33:07+00:00

Nope that's just your average internet user. IRL we tend to just get on with it

imjussayin43 · 2018-04-11T20:36:51+00:00

You're obviously female since men voicing preferences and bringing attention to female/feminist hypocrisy is seen as "complaining". sighs Isn't that lauded feminine empathy grand?

Anyway...however you wish to label it you are seeing the relationship between the sexes fray to the point where even the collective stoicism of men cannot keep them silent...and it only gets worse from here.

Thanks feminism! 👏👏👏

PM-ME-YOUR-STOMACH · 2018-04-12T02:02:20+00:00

Because for the longest time I think men are just told to keep their feelings and emotions bottled up and not show any weakness. Now that people want equality and there are all these people voicing their problems, men have started to too, I guess people don’t like hearing those who have mostly been quiet finally speak up. Do you know how much women complain about men? Oh my lord.

1UPZ_ · 2018-04-15T06:00:12+00:00

because most men today are bitches. Emasculated bitches. Rather "talk" things out rather than stand up for what they believe through other means.

They've become feminine.

mistercheeez-o____O- · 2018-04-18T23:39:35+00:00

Well I am not the same way IRL. I don't think whether you're turned on or not is relevant to any of us. Especially on reddit eh?

pangeacel · 2018-04-08T20:32:25+00:00

Would you rather they complain, or rather they resort to physical violence (as is common in other parts of the world)? It's a blessing in disguise

SergantCat296 · 2018-04-08T16:20:43+00:00

Are we complain about men complaining, i don't know if there is a point in discussing this.

On another note I think on reddit, the internet and the ballot box it's mostly men complaing, society and mainstream media is mostly women and the third gender complaining.

Title	Do men complain too much?
Author	lemonfloss
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Date	April 8, 2018 3:23 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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