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You deserve more than threats
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:22 AM
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Not every rapist will have this evidence against them, but definitely this one. I'll happily dig through his information and provide his victims with evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:06 AM
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No, I'm planning on finding his victims and providing them the evidence they need 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:03 AM
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This post makes great evidence, for one. ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:59 PM
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By submitting this post as evidence against the op, for starters. If that didn't work, you better believe I'm screaming what he did to the heavens and showing everyone I can the evidence and what the court decided. If rapists don't get justly punished, they will be defamed and ridiculed for the rest of their life if I have anything to say about it. The more women know about it, the less likely he is to get any kind of relationship, any kind of sex. If a man does this to me and I know he did it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:58 PM
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And you want so badly to have no consequences for raping someone that you argue that victims shouldn't even be able to prove it in court.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:48 PM
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This post will make a great case against him then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:43 PM
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No. If you were truthful, you know what the answer would be. And you purposely ignore that. That is rape. I don't care what the "legality" of it is. Excuses and exceptions have been made for men to get what they want from the dawn of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:42 PM
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...you really expect someone to be empathetic to someone who actually admitted he didn't give a f about your feelings and wanted to use and discard people?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:36 PM
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Misleading someone to get a yes to sex is coercion by deception. Sexual coercion is rape. You really didn't help your case by adding that last fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:28 PM
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Yes, that is fraud, and she should face consequences for that. If you can prove it was intentional, at the very least she should pay you out for wasting your time and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:25 PM
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A survey employs self-reporting, and is not a credible source of information due to vulnerability to bias. Furthermore, free time is experienced very differently depending on gender. To a woman, "free time" is often taking care of children. To a man, taking care of children is "babysitting." https://scholars.unh.edu/soc_facpub/7/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:22 PM
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I'm simply trying to understand why they think this is acceptable behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:08 PM
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That's... that's sexual coercion by deception. That's rape. You're actually saying men should be rapists? That is absolutely and completely pathetic. I didn't think these men could sink any lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:06 PM
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Citation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:57 PM
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Do you ignore the reasoning behind the opinions of everyone who disagrees with you? That is so sad. How do you make informed and impartial decisions? How can you rest easily thinking you're right without understanding the other side of the story? I want to know because I am naturally curious about what motivates people. Understanding others = being more prepared to face them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:56 PM
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I'm married to a wonderful husband who pulls his weight. I do not have to deal with these manchildren. My friends, who are still dating, are constantly rejecting them. It seems like this attitude is not working for men. No one is signing up for it. Women are overwhelmingly deciding not to have children because we understand that a man wants a baby the same way a child wants a puppy, expecting the mom to take care of it in every meaningful way. My attitude worked well for me. This attitude though…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:49 PM
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The men who don't pull their own weight, overwhelmingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:39 PM
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Yes. My half of the rent, my half of the groceries, my food on dates, everything I want. But if you're going to justify not picking up after yourself by saying "well I buy food for you," that's no excuse. If you're buying things for your wife, it should be because you love her, not because you expect her to be your maid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:26 PM
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Is that why you're married? Because your partners only other option was starvation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:19 PM
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He doesn't have to? I can literally pay for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:07 PM
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Things men traditionally bring to the table are not wanted or needed from them anymore. That does not mean I don't like men. I love my husband. He adapted. He does 50% of the work. If he did it, other men can get off their high horse and do it too. I'm asking why the men who don't adapt, think they'll ever find a woman who will agree to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:38 PM
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If you do your own chores, and don't expect your partner to do them for you, you aren't the kind of man this post is talking about, so none of it applies to you. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:07 PM
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The men who don't pull their own weight are literally asking that but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:04 PM
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Honestly, yes. But if you think those are the only options available, that's kind of delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:03 PM
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Wtf? You're literally saying because sex is not my top priority, I am asexual? I very much have a sex drive, have it every time I get the chance, enjoy many kinks, etc. I am very much attracted to men. It is not normal for sex to be your top priority. That is called not having self control or respect. You are describing hypersexualism. And if that's you, great. But don't tell someone else they're asexual because you can't imagine being sexual and having standards at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:01 PM
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I was not asking why women should get into relationships with men at all. I was asking why they should choose to be with dead weight. That is simply what many men expect out of women. It is what a good 50% of the men on dating apps wanted when I was still dating. I have a husband. I see the value in having an equal partnership with a man, and I very much enjoy his company. I'm asking the men who have the expectations I described why they think those relationships are appealing or valuable for wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:52 PM
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Lol we thrived during world War 2 when men left, we would be fine. But keep kidding yourself, it's hilarious. ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:46 PM
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You literally told me I was asexual? But go off I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:44 PM
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Ah yes, women must be gay for wanting their husbands to pull their own weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:43 PM
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Lol you think men protect and provide for women's entire lives? 😆😆😆
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:38 PM
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I believe what you just identified is called "simping" and if you want to do that, that's your prerogative, but it's pathetic af. Relationships should be mutually beneficial, through love, life, and labor, and you should have more respect for yourself than that. I love my husband. I very much like sex. It simply is not my top priority. That is the only difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:33 PM
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How many men have you dated as a woman? Because when I was still dating, many men expected exactly this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:05 PM
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Swap the genders. What man in his right mind would sign up for a situation like the one above? You can claim that women don't like men all you want, but no one, and I mean no one, regardless of sex, would like taking care of a grown adult who can take care of themselves. Yet this is what many men expect of women now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:04 PM
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Yeah, this is not the best option. Every other option is multitudes more attractive than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:58 PM
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So none of the chores are ever going to get done, since you don't want to do them or want someone to do them for you, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:57 PM
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Lol you think women should want to be with a man child who can't take care of himself just because they like men? I married a man who did not do this, because I had a choice and I turned down this situation every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:56 PM
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Here's the thing. I am not unhappy in my marriage. He actively takes 50% of the workload and doesn't force it all onto me. I love him very much. My friends though? They want a relationship like mine, but only find man children incapable of taking care of themselves, and I want to know why you think that's excusable, because they are not bringing anything to the relationship. "Protection" is meaningless. Women are more likely to protect each other than men are, and it's men who are attacking in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:53 PM
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The original 2009 study was not retracted, that was another study published a few years later. I really shouldn't have to do digging for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:20 AM
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Wow, a biased source hidden behind a paywall. Revolutionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:05 AM
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I asked out every single one of the men in my past relationships and my current. I can make my own decisions. I have a gun and I know how to use it. My husband is not tall or big, he's a scrawny nerd. Still not seeing how an unequal relationship is beneficial for the women in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:04 AM
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Before I married my husband, casual sex was occasional for me. I ended up hating it usually and it dissuaded me from doing it again. I made exceptions for men I liked romantically or who I found interesting. She's right. The best sex was not the hottest, the hottest was not who I was most attracted to, and who I was most attracted to was not the best sex. I would not f anyone I wouldn't date, and I would not date anyone I wouldn't f.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:59 AM
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Sounds like a fever dream where you basically have a live in slave and get to be lazy 95% of the time. No one is going to agree to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:37 AM
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? I made the post because my friends are still dating with terrible luck, and I want to understand why men are putting them through this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:35 AM
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If one partner earns enough that the other can stay home and do all of the other work, that is an equal partnership. However, say my husband makes more than me, but I still have my own job and make my own money, I'm not going to clean up after him like he's a toddler. He still needs to clean up after himself unless he's going to actually pay me for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:33 AM
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So I can only speak for my experience. If I was in a relationship with someone and didn't want to ever sleep with them, that relationship was dead. Better to break it off now rather than later, given that it isn't due to childbirth or depression or some other fixable issue. My husband and I have sex 3 times a week. It used to be once a day but we got busy and the honeymoon phase is over. I adore him, I want him all the time, and he is not a freaking Chad. I'm so sick of you people saying I like …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:26 AM
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I don't date anymore, I'm married to a libertarian, thanks. I was thinking about past issues I had.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:01 AM
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I don't like super big or muscular guys. I want to be able to get away from a dude if he gets rabies or something and goes psycho 😆 Chest hair and beard though? chef's kiss
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:58 AM
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I mean, whatever you want as long as it's healthy and you aren't morbidly obese. Be comfortable in your skin. That's what matters. If you insisted on specializing your build for dating... Every woman is different with different tastes. You might have more success figuring out what a specific type of woman likes. Like goth girls, gamers, readers, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:56 AM
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I live in the rural southeast usa. When I was dating, I cannot tell you how many men wanted me to do exactly what I mentioned above, and I live where there is nothing but conservative dating standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:50 AM
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I'm glad that you feel that way. There are many disabled people who need partners and that kind of mentality is perfect for them. However, if an able person is pushing all of the work onto you, that can be an indicator for future abuse. It is not smart to sign up for a relationship where you are constantly giving and getting nothing in return from your able partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:47 AM
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The amount of money doesn't matter, it is the amount of labor. If both people are working 40 hours a week, lets say both office jobs, then both should be doing 50% of chores and childcare, even if one earns more than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:31 AM
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No, they're not bad on their own, but compounded together with 24/7 childcare and a lack of assistance from an able bodied partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:27 AM
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If this is true, why is it an insult to say "you throw like a girl"? How about men insulting other men if they do anything feminine, like wear makeup, or even express emotion. Because only women do that right? Why is pink shunned among men because it's feminine, but blue is so loved among everyone? This has to be a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:09 AM
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Let's see the citation then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:57 AM
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I would be happy if people stopped bothering me to make babies, if that's what you're saying. I'd be happy if men could get sex from other places. I don't like being needed for things that I don't want to do in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:54 AM
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As someone who regularly does both, I would much rather mow the lawn once every two weeks than cook, clean, and fold clothes every day. If you like doing the latter better, then you do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:48 AM
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It's so cute that you think that. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091110105401.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:42 AM
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So it's impossible for you to imagine yourself in that situation? You think they're all making it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:38 AM
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Okay so there's a part of this I get. Autistic people are far more affected by commonplace grievances than normal. Like my dad found my sexting conversation with my ex when I was a teenager, and that absolutely destroyed me. I was so embarrassed and I couldn't look him in the eye after that for at least 5 years, because every time I saw him that thought kept coming back up. I talked to him about it a few weeks ago and he said the equivalent to "oh that's such a normal teenage mistake, it isn't a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:33 AM
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Then you understand what I'm saying. If someone expected you to handle all of it for them, there would be no point to the relationship. It would be like taking care of a grown child.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:16 AM
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I'm literally asking the 2% of men who are disgusting violent incels. I want to understand their delusion 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:13 AM
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Sounds like you're okay with doing all the work yourself too then 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:11 AM
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High empathy was considered an atypical autism sign because most autism research was done on males. Now it's more likely that high empathy can be an indicator. But the men? It's more likely that they have antisocial personality disorder in combination with autism. This is not the autism itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:55 AM
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As an autistic woman, I think many autistic men are kind of spoiled (but not always). I got my diagnosis as an adult. I had problem behaviors as a child that I was punished for and quickly set in line. Because men are more likely to be diagnosed, excuses are made for them growing up, even when they're high functioning and should know better. So now you have an adult who had a parent enable their toxic behavior growing up. This creates entitlement. People who think they're entitled to get their w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:47 AM
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I really doubt most women would be interested in that. Sex with most men is lackluster at best. We get nothing out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:35 AM
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They want pity sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:57 PM
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I'm straight and I certainly don't. Don't know about everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:39 AM
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TRP advice. Do you not think it will work or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:18 PM
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It depends on what part you need advice on. Is it meeting women, keeping attraction going, or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:12 PM
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I don't disagree with a woman that avoids men because of a traumatic experience such as assault. This is backed with the data that says most violent crime is committed by men at a disproportionate rate, especially with sexual assault. I do disagree with women who avoid men without such an experience, just because she was burned emotionally. I don't like women exaggerating that they "hate all men." When what they're really trying to say is that they hate predatory men. I don't think we should ali…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:06 PM
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There was literally a post where the guy was commenting on this the other day. He took TRP, then used the advice and was successful. He was off reddit for years before popping back in, and he said the environment had completely changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:00 PM
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Feel free to find it within this post. I know it has worked for the men I've befriended, and it worked for my husband. It might not work for everyone, but even if it doesn't there are benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:12 PM
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Because I've met some of his exes, and seen the evidence myself. We used to be poly and he never struggled talking to women, had 4 girlfriends at one point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:08 PM
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You understand that generalizing an entire group of people based on nothing but their sex is intensely sexist, and I'm guessing you don't like it when people do it against you. Based on your race, class, or sex. But you think it's okay because it's women. Were you an incel? I'm sorry, but there is no statistical evidence against women to justify prolonged resentment of them. I can't get behind what you're saying because I know I don't participate in the backstabbing or fake friendship, and I onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:03 PM
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What an ableist thing to say. Ah yes, all of my thoughts and opinions are useless, invalid, and not even worth talking about because I'm autistic. Enjoy your day. We have nothing left to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:56 AM
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I see men say they struggle because of their autism in here literally all the time, every day. I have also studied neurotypical behavior because of how badly I wanted to fit in. Rejecting an autistic woman's advice simply because she is autistic is incredibly wrong. I know it works on everyone, because I analyzed everyone to come to those conclusions, and friends have told me that it works. But no, it's easier to dismiss me outright than listen to anything that could help your prospects, isn't i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:36 AM
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No, it's probably more like black pill, which I learned in this post. I am specifically only talking to resentful men who hate women and have resigned to live that way. I was not attempting to generalize. And finally, debating for the sake of understanding is not the same as complaining for the sake of venting. You are choosing not to believe me when I say that I don't understand. The reason I do not understand, is because women are not all the same, we don't all act without compassion for men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:30 AM
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I don't like "Chad" and I'm tired of you idiots insisting that I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:18 AM
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So many men in this group are autistic, and autistic women are more likely to date other autistic people. If this is about maximizing their chances, my opinion matters... unless you only want to date neurotypicals, in which case, you would be excluding autistic women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:15 AM
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I came here to understand why people choose to live in resentment for so long. It was not to say that men are not allowed to vent. Your second point is literally due to this being a debate sub which was literally your first point... I have nothing to say to people who agree with me. What are we going to do, circle jerk?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:12 AM
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So you guys exclude autistic women but get mad when women exclude autistic men...?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:08 AM
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Why don't you pay a hooker if you're so thirsty? You are not in a desert without water, and you do not need sex. Equating sex to water is ridiculous. I didn't have sex for years and I was literally fine, just a bit frustrated. If men need sex so much, they should make it an enjoyable experience for their partners so they can easily get it again, but men literally don't, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:05 AM
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This is wild to me. My husband is autistic and I couldn't imagine excluding him because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:51 AM
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I'm an autistic woman, and my past boyfriends have VERY MUCH cared what other people thought about me. I was constantly made to feel like shit about it. The only difference is that guys don't have social requirements to start dating, they have social requirements to continue dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:48 AM
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Why do you think that having bad sex is better than having no sex at all? I could have, but it would fucking suck and I would hate myself for it. How could you possibly empathize with that? Imagine having it then stopping before you reach an O every single time. Wouldn't you just get fed up and do it yourself? There is no benefit to hooking up for most women, so we don't do it. It doesn't matter if we can. It matters if it's pleasurable, and for me, it wasn't. I had just as much frustration look…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:45 AM
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As a feminist I fully agree with this. It's one thing to say "you don't talk to women unless you're trying to sleep with them, do you?" And another to shame them for a lack of relationships or sex. This places too much value on it, and not enough on our opinions, values, and platonic companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:33 AM
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I'm sure some probably wanted to, but I literally can't get off if I don't like my partner as a person, so what would have been the point? Terrible sex? Not having sex is better than terrible sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:22 AM
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A few years. I'm demisexual, none of the guys I talked to were intellectually stimulating, and I don't sleep with men who will literally fck anything that moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:19 AM
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I am an autistic woman. I literally don't care what I'm supposed to do just because of my sex. I liked him, so I asked him out. I've done that with most guys I've dated. I'm the outlier, not him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:14 AM
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My husband wasn't trying to do that, we were just having a conversation and it happened on its own. Are you autistic? When we're around other neurodivergents with the same interests, conversation is supposed to flow more naturally. I've found that to be the case personally, but I understand feeling nervous or pressure and that making it harder. I have pretty severe social anxiety in public and I mask heavily. I think there are methods to train yourself to see women as less intimidating. I won't …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:29 AM
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I went through this as an autistic young adult and am over it now. I never got to go to parties or do fun things that I saw others get to do. I no longer care too much at 27, but missing out on having fun and living your life because of being socially awkward is not fun. I did feel like a freak and like I was missing something important to the human experience. Today I'm happily married and the thought of sleeping around makes me want to throw up. I was a lost person when I was young and I wante…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:06 AM
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...haven't y'all just been complaining that women have too high physical standards? If you aren't going to give women the same grace about their physical attraction, then don't expect it from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:57 PM
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That is irrelevant because I had taller options and chose him instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:39 PM
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You kind of have to share interests with the other person to have a meaningful conversation they find interesting. There's no one size fits all here. People are all different and it's best to find someone else who enjoys the same things you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:37 PM
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Where I live, he is shorter than most men. I live in a small town in the south populated with extremely tall white guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:31 PM
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Why are you making assumptions about someone you don't even know, with no evidence to support your statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:29 PM
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I'm Southern, it wasn't intended to encompass all of you. If you took the information from TRP to better your chances, you did in fact, adapt, and are not stewing in the kind of resentment that I was discussing in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:28 PM
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Well the main thing is that they share my hobbies and interests, and have meaningful conversations with me. We can have deep conversations about philosophy. My husband stimulated my mind before he stimulated my body. My husband and I met at a metaphysical shop where we discussed spirituality and different formations of crystals for hours before I asked him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:16 PM
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He was a kid. 5'9.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:11 PM
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I mean, my suggestion was to sign up for classes, groups, and hobbies for things that interest you. Often you kind of have to talk to different group members, so that skips the initial attraction step right there and gives you a chance to show each other your personalities. You get to learn a new skill, you get to socialize and get out of the house, and you might meet someone interesting. I met my husband at a metaphysical shop and we talked about different formations of crystals for hours befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:10 PM
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Why do you think that women cannot be compassionate for men? Have the individual women you've encountered hurt you so badly that you hate their entire gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:05 PM
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"Why aren't red pill men adapting anymore?" You adapted. You're good, I wasn't asking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:03 PM
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Look, I don't make the rules. Other women do. I'm autistic and when I was more blunt and insulting as a child, I was ostracized over and over again. Women are already critical of ourselves, we're conditioned that way. We don't need more insecurity. Like I said, I would have told her that sometimes getting to know someone can turn them from a 2 to an 8. You can't control your own attraction. And again, it wasn't about her having trouble attracting others. She didn't ask. I don't know what else to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:02 PM
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The reason I posted is because I genuinely don't understand why some people complain, but never try. I understand venting, I understand needing community, and I understand searching for truth. What I don't understand is prolonged resentment without ever moving past it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:56 PM
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Thank you ❤️. I think it might be due to lack of exposure, which is another reason I recommended hobbies and classes 😉 it gets you exposure to all kinds of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:53 PM
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Thank you for answering earnestly. What is black pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:50 PM
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Whatever you need to tell yourself dude. All I can say is that I didn't understand trans people until someone came along with an explanation of gender disphoria that actually clicked in my head. It took me asking questions that may have seemed rude, and someone kind enough to explain it in a way I could understand. I'm looking for that click so that I can be more compassionate in the future. So far what I have seen is not an adequate excuse for prolonged resentment of an entire sex, though some …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:47 PM
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I understand needing somewhere to vent, but What if they are being wrong and inappropriate? I do genuinely see some trying, and I respect them. I don't understand the ones who simply stew in resentment and make no attempt to change, even when they are given plenty of advice that has worked for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:30 PM
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I am actively engaging with people who don't share my opinion on this thread, asking questions, and attempting to understand. I struggle with understanding specific points of view, that is part of my autistic symptoms. I have expressed this multiple times, and have thanked others for answering my questions in earnest. I'm not going to engage with idiotic attempts to rile anger. As I have said, that is not my purpose here. If you have nothing insightful to say, and your only purpose is to argue, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:22 PM
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My husband was diagnosed as a child. I was diagnosed as an adult. He had many relationships with women before me, and never had problems attracting partners with plenty of opportunities for sex. I can admit to that. But I'm seeing the same people for years continuously complaining and not actually trying to better themselves or their circumstances, which is what I thought the point of TRP was about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:06 PM
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See, I'm trying to have a discussion and find common ground in order to understand better. You are doing nothing but arguing for the sake of arguing. I don't want everyone to agree with me. I want to understand, because I don't, and you are not attempting to debate for the sake of discussion and learning, you are attempting to get a rise out of me so that you can feel justified in your own hatred, that you won. Winning is not my goal. Understanding is my goal. And all you're doing is alienating …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:03 PM
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I don't, just was pointing out that you were wrong. You don't do research before you dismiss women, do you? This isn't about who has it worse. If you make an incorrect claim, I'm going to correct you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:57 PM
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When you're offended by literally everything the other person says, I'm pretty sure it's warranted. I didn't mean it the way you took it. It was an emotional response on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:46 PM
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I don't understand why you responded to my post, then. I was calling out anger and resentment, and if you aren't angry or resentful and you used your knowledge for success, I wasn't talking about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:36 PM
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I never compared them. I don't think it's better. I just explained my experience and why I think things are the way they are. You're really emotional...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:34 PM
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https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/behavioral-neuroscience/articles/10.3389/fnbeh.2022.852203/full Autistic women are abused far more than neurotypical women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:30 PM
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His words: "All I can say is women hate hi, how are you and what stuff do you like? Think of it like women are bidders at a auction, they want you to share and simply say what you like and, if they're not interested you probably got nothing in common. Women love a man that knows what he wants. Just don't ask about sex, cleaning or anything like that. They will ask when they want to." I think women do want to bond over common interests, and they're more interested in you if you share their hobbie…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:25 PM
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Thank you for actually responding to me on that. I meant it sincerely. I will think about what you said. Something I have noticed is especially on dating apps, men sort of fall over each other to talk to any woman, and the only thing that matters to them is that she's female. There are so many that you literally have to cut corners somewhere. It is not a compliment to only be wanted for your sex. It is not a compliment to have someone who would have settled for anyone. And that's the main proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:12 PM
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For where I live, no, it is definitely not tall. We're all tall here. As far as relationships like that, my sister is 5'10 and dating another 5'9 guy. Height does seem important, but it is not THAT important.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:55 PM
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Do you enjoy being nasty for no reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:31 PM
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I didn't date for height, and 5'9 is not tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:30 PM
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5'9. Two inches taller than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:22 PM
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Uh, you're fine with stewing in your own cesspool of anger and resentment? That is not healthy and the recipe for an abusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:21 PM
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Educate me then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:19 PM
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But they aren't trying to be successful or happy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:16 PM
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Hobbies! Take classes, learn new skills, join groups. This lets you meet new people in person, see if they smell bad, have weird vibes, even get past first impressions by talking a little bit, and you already share an interest with them so you have something to talk about. I met my husband at a metaphysical shop and we talked about different crystal formations for hours ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:15 PM
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Oh yeah just ignore everything else I said so that you can fixate on your hatred. Typical. Go date men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:08 PM
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I know most men aren't interesting because I've literally talked to them. All kinds of them, many times. All most, physically unappealing or attractive alike, want from me is children and a maid, of which I want neither fate. I wanted pleasurable sex, stimulating conversation, and quality companionship for life. But maybe my experiences don't matter right? I've only probably had more experience than you dating men, but that doesn't matter either because you think all women are the same and none …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:48 PM
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Maybe it doesn't happen to you because you aren't attractive or interesting. Most men aren't interesting. You all fumble over each other for the slightest bit of female attention just to get it. You don't care about the female in question even a bit. You don't put any thought into her hobbies or interests. My husband cared about what I had to say, shared similar interests and philosophies on life, and he gives me stimulating conversation about all of it every day. Are you capable of that or do y…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:11 PM
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Well that's the trap. Women live in fear that they'll become single mothers, that they'll essentially be forever slaves to their family, that they will never get to live for themselves. As a woman, I find other women somewhat gullible and naive if they agree to having children. It's too much of a gamble, and you don't play around with someone's life. But what do I know? I'm disabled and couldn't take care of any, hence the tubal ligation. I do agree there that fathers should actually parent thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:25 AM
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Well the problem is that most of the childcare gets put on the woman, and it is extremely unfair. They think you're asking them to basically be a slave. I got my tubes removed so I'd never have to worry about it. There are plenty of children to give a home to, though. I think it's a little selfish to need the kid to have your own DNA, but I guess I get it. You could pay a surrogate. I get not wanting to do it by yourself for sure, but people do it all the time. Anyway my point is that if you rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:47 AM
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You can definitely adopt if it's just about being a dad. The impression you leave on that child's life is a far more important legacy than any genes you pass on. The important thing is that you live your life as happily as you can (as long as you don't harm anyone else in doing that (there are some sick fucks out there)). We're more than our flesh prisons 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:19 AM
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Is autistic an insult now...?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:05 AM
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The main reason I'm concerned is just how easy it would be for a man to abuse his partner in this situation. Guy goes to a impoverished country to find a woman, who marries him to escape her situation. They fly back to the man's home country. The woman is an immigrant, so she has no rights. How easy would it be for him to abuse or rape her, knowing she couldn't escape it? I know you all like to think that men wouldn't do this, but yes, we know statistically that some men can and do, any chance t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:37 AM
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What, you wouldn't avoid someone in one of those thong suspender swimsuits? Did she say she didn't think they were attractive because they were overweight? I'm sorry, why EXACTLY did she find these men unattractive? Context matters. And again, this is INSULTING. I answered why we don't insult each other. The world has already done that enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:16 AM
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You can not see women as people and still want sex from them. A woman isn't going to have sex with you unless she likes you in some way. Boasting about sex is performative for other men. Women give you status among other men because men value sex. If men actually valued women more than each other, we'd see harsher punishments for grapists, child predators, etc. So no. You're conflicting valuing women for valuing sex with women, and there is a huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:07 AM
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I asked my husband out. Before that, I didn't like anyone enough to do it. Not because I was scared to, but because I wasn't interested in them. What attracts me to a man is not appearance, but the way they treat me, and if they stimulate my mind. So I don't know if you just approach anyone you think looks hot or what, but that isn't a main motivator for attraction in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:55 AM
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How exactly do you know that she's doing the latter?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:48 AM
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I mean, it wasn't really too clear. Not finding them attractive doesn't have to be superficial. Guys who smell bad or who wear specific clothes aren't attractive to me, even if they're 8+s. And the issue wasn't that no one found her attractive, it was that she didn't find them attractive. If I were in the group, I would likely have told her that sometimes getting to know someone can turn them from a 2 in your eyes to an 8. If she had 'asked' about her appearance, I likely would have given advice…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:46 AM
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This is extremely interesting. I've never heard this take, that men are woman centered, but it makes so much sense. I agree with everything you've said, and I'd say that women would be so much better off too if men quit obsessing over them. Dating men would be so much better. How many men before I met my husband just wanted to date me because they were desperate and didn't want to be single? It took me years to find my husband, who genuinely wanted me for 'me.'
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:30 AM
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You literally don't need one though? Life is about finding your own purpose and what makes you personally feel fulfilled ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:14 AM
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adopt!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:11 AM
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No one is saying you can't have friends dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:08 AM
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When my husband and I were first dating and had started to have sx, we went to dinner and to an adult store where he got me this really amazing expensive vibrator I was looking at. Every time I use it I think about how I felt when he got it for me. ❤️ No one had ever done anything like that for me before. So I think maybe gestures are good, and can take the relationship from interest to love pretty quickly, but there's more to it than that. I fell out of it pretty quickly with men who didn't sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:05 AM
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Venting to others is an absolutely normal behavior indicative of a social pack species. Never talking about your problems in a safe place is extremely destructive and the reason so many of you need therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:43 AM
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Are you asking why women don't insult each other? This is my experience. When I was growing up, there was so much push from the media to have these glorified features. Thigh gaps, dark and long lashes, a very thin waist that you'd have to remove ribs for, large breasts, big lips, etc. All your flaws are thrown at you to basically get you to change into an unrecognizable version of yourself. It's likely that any woman you meet is already insecure about something. For me, it's my thin lips, and my…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:35 AM
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Older men offer stability which is more attractive than looks. If you look at the study I sent you, yes, men in their 20s and early 30s are considered more physically attractive by women. But women are not as concerned with appearance as men. That factor is just not as important. And again, dating is difficult for young people now because of our culture and technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:32 PM
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I didn't see your PS until after I replied. Dating apps don't work because they don't account for major factors in attraction. Scent for example is a big one for me. I have liked a guy online, then was completely turned off in person because he didn't smell right. Presence and vibes are big too. Like I said, I could have fun talking to someone online, but in person they're different. I don't mean awkward, because I think awkward is cute. I mean, he might seem unstable or like he was hiding somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:28 PM
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Ah yes, balding, wrinkles, and beer gut is so attractive 😬. Women find (slightly) younger men more attractive. They stay with older men because of stability and love. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2416984122
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:18 PM
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It's also amazing that women's egg quality stays the exact same as they age, the only complication with aging is their ability to carry and conceive. The offspring's health is not affected. But you wouldn't say that women become more valuable. Women and men lose their "value" at the same rate. Why do you think older men are biologically superior? Because I can see no reason that they would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:12 PM
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I mean, multiple studies have found similar results, that the age of the father affects the health of the offspring, and old man sperm is inferior. I think culturally you might be right, that older men have more resources and their lives are more stable. But biologically, no. Young men having problems with dating nowadays has a lot to do with technology. Online dating doesn't work, and opportunities to meet new people aren't very plentiful. The older you are the more experiences you will have an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:59 PM
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Considering that sperm starts to degrade in genetic quality after 35, I don't think men are in their "prime" later in life. The older they are after 25, the more they become bald, gain weight, and show intense signs of aging. I think an old man lusting after a girl who looks like a teenager is absolutely disgusting. And vice versa on old women and young men. I'm in my 20s and the number of times old men have tried to mess with me has disgusted me. Anyone can make their own decisions as long as t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:35 PM
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It's not about naivete. It's about a lack of self-esteem and unwillingness to give up on a failed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:33 PM
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Because there are more autistic men than women. A 4:1 ratio or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:18 AM
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We do. Why are you commenting this under everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:54 PM
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So pcos and thyroid disease don't exist...?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:13 PM
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Science denial? When there is plenty of evidence that carbs and not calories are the driving factor in insulin-resistant patients? When did you learn about calories? Grade school? You're not wrong that a low-calorie diet works for normal people, but it does not work for everyone. What does work for everyone is low carb, because carbs are what cause weight gain in people with insulin resistance. Surprise surprise, people have different bodies with different metabolisms and varying degrees of abil…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:31 PM
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I lost all of that weight after I was treated. After years of self-hatred and shaming. But yes, I totally chose to go through all of that 😆. I swear some people can't hear themselves talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:14 PM
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Then why did I maintain weight on a calorie deficit before I was treated for my insulin resistance, and lose nearly 100 lbs rapidly after my insulin resistance was treated correctly? Do you know how common insulin resistance is? Sugar + carbs aren't processed correctly in people who have it, and that goes to weight gain. So no. It isn't about calories. It's about carbs, and your body's ability to process them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:11 PM
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Excess sugar isn't processed correctly by people who have insulin resistance, which causes weight gain. There is sugar in ketchup. Almost everything in the US has excess sugar. So yes, it does cause weight gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:07 PM
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I don't think he did that on purpose. I think he was a fence sitter, and I shouldn't have agreed to be with a fence sitter in the first place. He's not a bad guy for changing his mind. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 04:23 PM
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We did. I told him I didn't want them. At first, he agreed, but later he changed his mind. It happens. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:18 PM
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I don't think it's morally acceptable to ask anyone for money, and I feel so much shame when I have to resort to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 05:12 AM
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Almost ALL food in the US has additives, pesticides, and poisons, and the rare few that don't are insanely expensive. The poor sacrifice quality for money, get sicker, then have to pay through the nose for adequate medicine. It's designed that way. Our food didn't have pesticides and sugar added to everything 200 years ago. If you're going to ignore everything else I said, I'm not talking to you. Insulin resistance causes obesity. No one fcking chooses to be obese except for idiotic influencers.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 05:00 AM
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I ended a relationship once because my ex wanted kids and I didn't. You can't compromise on that; someone will always be screwed over. Doesn't mean I hate my ex. We still catch up sometimes. You can be incompatible with someone in many ways, and often that's all there is to it. A conflict of interest, different life goals, a different set of values, etc. If both parties are mature enough to recognize that and walk away with no hard feelings, that's pretty awesome imo. Has only happened once for …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 04:46 AM
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You fell into a pit. The worst thing you can do is give up. There will be a way out if you make one. But your life isn't even halfway over. Giving up, resenting everyone around you, or using force would be the only true pathetic ways to move forward. Maybe your success looks like training to Mario jump out of the pit. Maybe it looks like building stairs out of the mud. You will try things and fail, and that isn't wrong. Learn from every mistake, and you will succeed. The only way you could never…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 04:19 AM
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I really don't want to open this can of worms, but obesity is often not a choice. It is a trap that pulls and sinks you in deeper the harder you try to claw your way out. I've lost nearly 100 lbs and am almost down to what I weighed when I was a teenager, but for years I was trapped in my own skin feeling like a failure every time I ate anything. Many medical issues cause obesity. I lost weight because mine was finally treated correctly. I can't tell you how angry I was, finding out after years …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 03:12 AM
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Um? My husband is autistic. I don't know why you assumed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:27 PM
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I'm autistic and married to an autistic man. There is evidence that if you are autistic, you're more likely to be with someone who shares autistic traits. So yes, we often do date autistic men. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9118825/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 04:21 PM
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I'm not thankful because of the high amount of abuse autistic women are subjected to. I'm not trying to downplay how bad it feels to be an autistic man, but autistic women have our own struggles, and it isn't fun to be bullied and ostracized by other women and girls throughout childhood and into adult life. The combination of all this often causes PTSD. I've struggled with self-esteem for as long as I can remember. So I don't think it's fun to be any kind of autistic person, and I wish I were no…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 03:55 PM
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They weren't. My husband is the most attractive person I've ever been with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:41 AM
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Dude as an autistic woman, I've been ostracized by other women countless times throughout my life. This is not gender specific
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:59 PM
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Most women aren't having and don't want casual sex. You're looking at women who no longer have it at all, because often it's a bad experience, and wanting them to make an exception for you. If you want to be an exception, you need to be exceptional, and having a defeatist attitude about it isn't doing you any favors. The sex I've had while in relationships has been far more enjoyable than hookup sex, and I swore off hookups a long time before I found my husband because they sucked. The sex I hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:17 PM
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When I did it, it was because I was trying to cope with trauma, and I hated myself. The thought of it now makes me sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:57 PM
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I mean the couple times I had ONSs were because I hated myself and wanted to feel anything but that. They were awful and I quickly understood why women don't have them as much as men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 04:41 PM
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You really don't see how ridiculous it is to freak out about not being gifted a sweater? You can exclaim "Everyone but me gets a sweater!" while stomping your feet and punching walls, but you don't deserve to force people to give you a sweater, and there's nothing anyone can do about it. It's up to you to prove you deserve a sweater to someone willing to give you one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:57 PM
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Another aspect of this is that men will shame you just for giving out too many sweaters despite claiming that everyone deserves a sweater lol so it makes you not want to knit at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:53 PM
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No one buys the sweaters from the majority of us. It's different if you pay for it, but instead, you're expecting us to just give them to you for nothing. And maybe some of us do really like knitting sweaters and do give them away often, but they're still her sweaters that she makes specifically for the other person. If you do want a sweater, offer some kind of incentive. If you're a pleasant person, good looking, kind, rich, or smart, you might have an advantage and people might want to give yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:45 PM
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The problem isn't that you want sex. The problem is that you make it my problem. Men harass us for sex all the time. It's constant. It's everywhere you look. This is probably a bad example, but say you can knit sweaters. Knitting sweaters takes time and energy, you do it for those you care about, and you enjoy doing it. It's a great pastime. But everyone wants a sweater, and you're constantly being begged for custom sweaters. The people you're interested in only care about you making that sweate…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:16 AM
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I think it's a self-sabotaging cycle. They develop awful views because of experience, then those views are equivalent to repellent when it comes to attracting partners. There's little shame in falling into a pit. The shame is in staying in that pit when you have a way out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 01:23 AM
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Dude I took my husband's virginity. A lot of women don't care and I actually found it fun to show him the ropes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 12:00 AM
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What values would you need her to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 11:50 PM
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So someone who shared your interests wouldn't be attractive to you? That seems a bit odd to me really. As for oral, are you willing to give it as often as you want to receive it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:12 PM
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This is a really refreshing response, thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:45 PM
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I mean, the way I see these questions is that you shouldn't just base attraction on what you see. You should look at their personality more than their looks. Isn't that what red pill guys want from women? I'm confused. What is the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:39 PM
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Yikes. Do you feel that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:33 PM
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Just wanted to say that women objectifying men is still considered the male gaze. Women absolutely do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:55 AM
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I just wanted to say that, as a woman, I got a ton of requests from guys who didn't care about my interests, personality, and passions, and that was repulsive to me. When I met my now husband, he told me what he wanted out of a relationship and the type of person he wanted to be with, and he described me. That made me feel wanted and appreciated for who I am instead of feeling like just the best some random guy could get. Those kinds of relationships are awful and those men never saw me for me n…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:44 AM
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Dude most women don't care about 6 packs. That's a standard imposed on you by men. I won't say that the 666 sht is completely wrong. However, I do think that tradwives are more likely to want the 6 figure crap because they aren't going to take on the role of housewife in exchange for nothing, and they're more likely to try dating in general because they need something from it. Many women do work, want to work, and don't want to rely on another person for their income. They aren't likely to try t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:01 AM
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As someone who has done it, yeah it's a chore and you literally get nothing out of it. 0/10 experience
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 03:59 AM
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I mean... not me. I'm married now and can't stand the thought of sleeping with anyone else. It makes me physically sick. But even when I was dating, it was still no. I don't want to f anyone I wouldn't date. If I slept with someone, it was because I thought the relationship was going somewhere. There were people I find attractive, but wouldn't f or date them if that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 03:24 AM
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I'm not talking about a massive age difference. If they date 10 years older as well, I'm not sure that they'd care too much. There is some outrage at older men seeking out girls who literally just turned 18 though. I see that quite a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:42 AM
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Many women date men in the age bracket above them. Not sure why personally, as I find older men disgusting 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 11:21 PM
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If you say you only want to sleep around then it's going to scare off the women who want long term relationships, so that logic is dumb af. I can see why they'd struggle if they're trying to base their relationships off of a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 07:27 PM
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We don't go to bars and clubs 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:57 AM
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...oh shit. I mean, I'm autistic. It's possible that I don't notice, but I thought men were supposed to be obvious in the way they flirt? I think I'd notice if a guy I didn't know struck up a conversation with me, and that hasn't happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:54 AM
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I don't think it happens as often as y'all think it does. I might be average or below, but I don't see it happening to my friends either, and I think they're very pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:46 AM
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Okay... Other people have called me an 8 pretty consistently. I think I'm a 5 or 6 because people lie for whatever reason. I'm in my late 20s now. I've spent my entire 20s not propositioned in public once. I asked my now husband out. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I don't think it happens as often as y'all think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:43 AM
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Uh, you have some kind of mental illness dude. This is not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:22 AM
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Prove it. If a majority of women still insult you when you stop using degrading, misogynistic, or insulting language, I'll agree with you. But if you're going to sit there and tell me without proof and experimentation that a majority of women do that without being provoked, I'm going to call bullshit. But the question is are you even capable of asking them without insulting them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:07 AM
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Prove it. If a majority of women still insult you when you stop using degrading, misogynistic, or insulting language, I'll agree with you. But if you're going to sit there and tell me without proof and experimentation that a majority of women do that without being provoked, I'm going to call bullshit. But the question is are you even capable of asking them without insulting them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:06 AM
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It matters quite a bit. "If I insult someone they'll treat me the same as if I didn't." See how idiotic you sound? Do not use misogynistic language and expect to get a pleasant response, because that is how people work. I'm not calling you an incel, but if I did you'd likely get angry because I tried to insult you. I've been on Facebook comments where men simply said something along the lines of, "I don't have much experience, so I'd feel more comfortable being with someone who also didn't have …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:42 AM
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Again, you used extremely insulting and degrading language to describe those women. You are going to tick people off by using that language, and they will spend hours trying to argue with you for it. Stop degrading promiscuous women and explain that you've had few sexual partners, so you'd rather be with someone who has also had few. No one will fault you for that. They WILL fault you for calling other people insulting names. So stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:29 AM
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I met my husband at a hobby shop. We're both passionate about what we were learning and he's autistic; so am I. He came off as a little scary to me at first, but I've really only been around other autistic women, so I didn't know what to expect. My point is that if you find an autistic woman whose hyperfixation is something you're doing or bring up, she's gonna want to talk to you for hours. No one lets me go on and engages with me the way my husband does lol. A good place to find autistic women…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:15 AM
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You think most women get propositioned everywhere they go?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:08 AM
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You didn't say women who want casual sex, you said women in general. It is not an advantage for the majority of women because most of us do not want it. It's a conflict of interest if the market is completely oversaturated with oranges when we need apples for a recipe. - if a woman does want it, then it would be an advantage. She would be the outlier there, because most of us find casual sex meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:04 AM
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See my edit please. Apologies
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 09:58 AM
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So it's not really on women to be better there if we're not the ones responsible for most of it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 09:54 AM
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No I don't. Not sure how you drew that conclusion from what I said. I just told you people don't like being insulted and degraded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 09:51 AM
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You had me for a minute troll. ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:44 PM
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I see. Alright, fine. They haven't been found to be true, but again, only 5% are false. Are you going to address my questions or do you only respond when you think you'll look good?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:34 PM
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Uh. They do. Men are responsible for 90% of violent crime. I'm not going to be thankful for you not following through on your disgusting impulses. Do that and end up where you belong. Prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:32 PM
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Are you going to address my question or are you going to ignore anything that makes you look bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:24 PM
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Um? If only 5% are false, the other 95% are valid accusations. I'm not sure how you're not getting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:23 PM
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But... people who want casual sex are mostly made up of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:21 PM
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I mean... not one I know does this. Maybe it's your friend group
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:19 PM
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"Why don't women like being insulted and slut shamed?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:15 PM
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95% of rape accusations have been found to be true. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/315728247_The_Prevalence_of_False_Allegations_of_Rape_in_the_United_States_from_2006-2010 Could you please explain with specific examples how empathetic men have it worse? Can you back your claims with data from peer-reviewed studies? I'm not seeing much of your argument based in fact, rather seems like you're just regurgitating manosphere bias. edit: apologies for my error. In my first point, I should h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 10:29 PM
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Why shouldn't men pursue feminine hobbies? My sister reads romance and she wants so badly to be with someone who she can talk about it with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:37 PM
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My husband was a virgin when I met him, and I never minded inexperienced men and didn't judge until they made why they were inexperienced clear. In my husbands case, it was because he's demisexual and we were in our early twenties. It seemed pretty normal to me. I'm actually pretty happy that my husband was inexperienced; I didn't have to teach him to overcome bad habits and he never got upset when I showed him what I enjoy. After a certain point in life though, inexperience can be a warning sig…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:11 PM
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I've been on dates with a lot of men who lied about anything from height to hobbies to body count. They said whatever they thought I wanted to hear. Some just wanted a quick f, but many wanted relationships. When I found out they were lying, my response was to end things quickly. Now I've never personally lied, but why is it more of a problem when women do it vs. when men do it? I feel like this is more of a people problem than men's or women's problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:02 PM
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I have no clue. I would have still went out with him if he was honest about it, but some guys really hate being shorter than their romantic interests. Hopefully he feels better about it in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:38 AM
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No. I looked at the profile of every single person I flipped through because I don't believe in judging a book by its cover. Over half only wanted to sleep around. If you think differently, your personal experience does not outweigh mine unless you date men, so you should back up your claim with evidence. Please prove me wrong with a credible source.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 06:45 AM
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I mean when I was dating, a 5'6 dude lied about his height and said he was 5'9, ended up shorter than me in person, then acted insecure and bitter about it the entire time, making comments about it. I'm 5'7 and he said I lied about MY height like tf? So I stopped accepting requests from guys shorter than me after that and started saying I was 5'8. If guys are gonna overestimate their height I guess I will too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 06:24 AM
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Dude also sold her as a sacrifice to said monster so... he did feel bad for it later and provide a means to escape but it doesn't really excuse him selling her and making her go through it in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 05:26 AM
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You say that while simultaneously refusing to back up your claims with specific data and providing the source
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 05:10 AM
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Then why is it my dating experience that most men my age (20s) only want to sleep around? I was interested in a relationship and over half of their profiles stated that they wanted something casual. I wasn't interested in being with someone older and ignored older men's advances, but a good chunk of them wanted the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:57 AM
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Get off the dating apps dude. Meet people through social groups, volunteering, or hobbies. Dating apps don't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:59 PM
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If men want women to be with them, they need to change their expectations. Women don't want to be responsible for 100% of the housework and we shouldn't have to when we work as well. That's a massive reason women aren't settling. Men are typically unpleasant to live with, equivalent to an overgrown child.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:44 PM
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Tf is wrong with you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:20 PM
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Voting is a basic human right for citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:13 PM
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I'm sorry, you think that basic human rights shouldn't be given to half of the population? No fault divorce benefits both men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:04 PM
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What special rights do you think women were given?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 12:37 PM
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So what would you have women do to combat this, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 12:36 PM
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Hi, could you provide the link to the study you referenced? I'm interested in seeing how they measured desirability.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 12:34 PM
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Considering I got married around 3 years ago, I think my mentality worked for myself and my husband. A big problem with dating these days is a lot of it is online, and guys will just swipe right on every single profile without even looking at it, pushing all of the burden of screening onto women. This oversaturates their options and is frankly overwhelming. You can see how this is counterproductive. If men were pickier and only swiped right on the women who would be the most compatible with them…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 11:35 AM
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I'm more finding a problem with many men's expectations of their partners and their swiping habits than the men themselves. It's not their fault really, just a product of their situation, but they can learn to do better. The way they handle dating apps sort of makes women nope out of the scene all together. I hope that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 09:42 AM
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It's interesting that you brought up that the right swiping is out of frustration. I'm sure women would do that too if it got to that point, but it only causes more frustration later when talking to the other person and finding out that you're incompatible because of something mentioned in the profile. For example, I'm pagan, and I wouldn't date a hardcore christian. Often, they make it clear in the profile, and it's easier just to avoid that interaction all together, because some people get rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 09:36 AM
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Well one problem is that it's really common for men to be misogynistic or rarely even violent. Expecting their partner to cook, clean, and work while they get to just work and play video games is pretty common, at least where I live (south USA). It took me forever to find my husband, who was a spiritual, emotional, and physical match for me, and has a kind temperament. It might just be a culture thing for me, but it was awful wading through the pool of men who only wanted a quick f, or a housewi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:50 AM
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Personally, I can connect with men and be very empathetic, as long as they do the same for me. But men as a whole... it's difficult because of what men in general have done to women and are still doing today. It's hard to have sympathy for a people who systematically oppress yours. From my side of the fence, it seems like other men are more of a problem for you guys than women. We just won't f you and leave you alone. Men, on the other hand, are violent towards themselves and everyone, and have …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:16 AM
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Please provide the source for your claim here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:06 AM
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In my case anyway, I would never participate in CNC if I didn't totally love and trust my partner with everything that I am. It was intimate, and the way he touched me wasn't harmful at all. I told him what I wanted, what I didn't want, and the pleasure was in the harmony of both feeling in control and out of control. I was assured of how loved I was before and after. But yes, giving up the power to my husband and trusting him with my safety and pleasure is freeing to me. We still participate in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 06:17 AM
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I told you I wasn't thinking of my rapist. I was thinking "my husband is here, I'm safe and loved." If anything was thought at all, it was love for my husband and relief that my rapist was long gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 06:04 AM
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Thank you for explaining. That helps, just please don't go out and assault someone. In my case, it wasn't a fetish. It was a therapeutic experience, like facing your fears. The only way to stop being so afraid of something is to be exposed to elements of it, and that's how you treat OCD as well. Maybe try looking up why that works and it might help you get some more insight. All I can think is that the victims of past SA who do fetishize it must have been broken in a way that can't be repaired s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:50 AM
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I'm not sure why this even needs to be said. Neither gender is worse than the other (except in the sense that men commit 90% of violent crime. That's worse). The only difference in this situation is that women tend to have higher standards and refuse to settle for less than they want. They'd rather be alone than with someone who doesn't meet them. Imo men shouldn't settle either. Be honest about your standards and be proud of them. Dating someone below them is just cruel to the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:39 AM
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OP, these questions you've asked along with your post topic is worrying. Could you explain your thought process here and your reasoning for fixating on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:23 AM
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Very inaccurate. It is relieving and pleasurable to think "this isn't him. I'm safe."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:09 AM
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It ISN'T. What is soothing is the ability to do it over and have the power to stop. To think "this thing that is happening to me is okay because I CAN control it". Just like readers of dark romance can stop reading if they want to. Can put the book down. They're processing their own trauma. So many women have been hurt and they're just trying to cope. If you're trying to justify grape, you can't and will never be able to. There is nothing pleasing about thinking of the assault itself, it's only …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:02 AM
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No. It was revisiting the fear from it to soothe it. But being able to say no and set restrictions made it feel so much less terrifying, like I was unwinding a part of me that the grape had tangled up and burned. I'm not okay with what happened. I most likely never will be. I just don't feel as horrified in my own skin as I used to. I don't walk around in public in constant fear, just situational fear. I didn't enjoy anything about the grape itself, and it made me want to kms. I tried multiple t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:50 AM
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I never told him I'd leave him if connection in sex wasn't important to him. He told me when we first started dating that he was demisexual and he literally couldn't be sexually attracted to someone without feeling a strong connection with them. Why is this so hard to wrap your head around, that a man might feel connected to his wife emotionally during sex? It's not normal or okay for me, personally, to be with someone who couldn't connect with me during intimacy. Maybe I'm also demisexual, I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:31 AM
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We had just started dating when he told me this and I hadn't given him any input on this at all? You're so determined to assume the worst in men that you have to have some internalized misandry. The idea of a man loving the connection with his wife is so foreign to you that you assume that he's manipulating me? This is just sad. You're projecting your own responses onto all men, and you're accusing me of projection? 😆 As for my preferences, I CAN be with a woman instead. And I would be with one …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:08 AM
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Consent is not a turn off. When I first was with my husband in a sexual way, before he touched me, he asked "is this okay?" And I moaned yes. "And here?" He asked before each step with a similar response. By the end I was begging him to touch me. It was so genuine and loving and hot. Y'all aren't doing it right if you're making it awkward. When I did partake in CNC, for me it was helping me through past trauma. Not being able to stop it or control certain elements of it would have created so muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:58 AM
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Except my husband has expressed that the best part of sex for him is the connection we feel? He told me that in the past, one of his exes denied him aftercare and he felt used, disgusted? He turned down many sexual encounters because the other person didn't want anything more than sex. This is not a projection, this is what he told me personally about how he felt and what he wanted in a partnership and sex. If all men felt nothing, then I would not be with a single one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:33 AM
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Disagree. My husband said one of his past sexual partners denied him aftercare and he was extremely hurt by it. He said he felt used. He says connection is the most enjoyable part of sex. As for me, yeah it ticks me off if men just want to use me and have no care for me as a person. I don't like being objectified.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:04 AM
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You know pleasure is an emotion right? You literally get chemicals causing emotion released into your brain whenever you have sex. Acting like men are these stoic creatures incapable of emotion is an insult to them. Reeks of misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:57 AM
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Your original point was that women stay away from awkward incels and not truly dangerous men. I don't find that to be the case since many serial grapists are awkward "loners." It doesn't 'have' to be sexual inadequacy, but it 'includes' sexual inadequacy. If you read on, it goes on to say that another type has some hatred against women, and believes they owe him sex. Also sounds familiar don't you think? Incels fit into dangerous stereotypes, and that's why women avoid them. We aren't foolproof …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:56 PM
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You need a direct quote? "Reassurance-seeking rapist: Believed to be the most common serial type,... ...This type of perpetrator is driven to compulsive behavior by deep feelings of inadequacy - not necessarily sexual inadequacy. Usually, he is shy, a loner, an underachiever who may feel dominated by his regular partner" if he has one. Sound familiar? If he's a loner with few non-forced sexual partners, it means women are likely to avoid him. Not sure how the puzzle pieces aren't clicking togeth…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 04:31 PM
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Then why are serial grapists usually awkward incels who have had VERY few partners? What causes them to snap? Lack of self control? Resentment? Violent and abusive men are very often chronically alone. https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Four-types-of-serial-rapists-what-makes-them-3159973.php You can read through this if you want. Tell me if you see any similarities between them and incels. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:35 PM
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Yikes. I can see how love bombing would work on the insecure. Thanks for answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:44 PM
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Still not what you suggested she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:21 PM
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I don't find that to be the case. People don't stay with partners who don't respect them as an equal. I certainly wouldn't stay with my husband if he started treating women as inferior. Thankfully he's never done that or shown signs that he would.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:21 PM
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This is probably more criticizing traditional gender roles, but women were in the past expected to do all of the housework. That hasn't changed where I live. Working women still are expected to do all of the housework, take care of kids, and her husband. This might just be an adjustment period to women entering the workforce. I do think feminism is positive as a whole, but women regularly working now are still expected to fulfill their traditional gender roles, and that SUCKS. Many women aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:16 PM
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If that's true, that still isn't the point. You can't show me where she said what you were implying?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:07 PM
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Where exactly did she ask that? Please point it out because you are not making sense. She didn't say that she expected men to pursue people they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:54 PM
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You're more likely to get sex, but long term relationships are not likely to work with you. I don't think you should be proud of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:52 PM
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The thing is, men are more sexual on average, but they don't like women who are the same way. They want each woman to just want and like him and only him. For women, sex isn't about power and it isn't demeaning to men. Sex is about trust. Some trust more easily than others. I think your stance is skewed to somehow think that the way women enjoy sex is inferior, when I view it as a strength. Men are likely to get STDs with the way they want to act. They're more likely to experience less of a conn…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:50 PM
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I don't think it's about effort, because if you like someone more than they like you, that relationship is not going to work out. At the same time, an issue I've seen is that misogynistic men don't actually like women. They lust after them and want a relationship with someone they just don't respect, and women can tell. That's guaranteed to repel people, regardless of sex. And the more men are rejected, the more likely they are to adopt misogynistic mindsets. It seems to be a self defeating cycl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:37 PM
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A question that I'm wondering is what was he doing to make them feel special? I was one of those girls with low self esteem, still am, but I never fell for anyone like that. The people I did fall for made me feel important, claimed that they liked me for who I was, and raised my self esteem. Did he do that at first and after the attachment he started making them feel bad again?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:32 PM
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That was not the question. Read again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:28 PM
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There are so many men on dating apps that it's difficult to screen through. When I was still dating, I did not look for how much money he made or his assets. I just wanted him to have a car so I wouldn't have to do all the driving. I don't like that. What I DID look for was personality, and it sucked because men would swipe right on EVERYONE without even screening. They didn't care about ME, just that I might be interested. That makes for a very poor relationship. For women, dating apps are an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:20 PM
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You made a ridiculous, biased accusation about women. I'm wondering why your bias is skewed to be so hateful. That's the discussion. There's no straw man, just questioning your point since you say you haven't even experienced what you're accusing women of personally. If you have no personal experience, you have let other people make your opinion for you, which is incredibly weak minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:20 AM
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So you're basing this on hearsay? These aren't even your own experiences that you're upset about and blaming all women for?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:13 PM
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You been hurt bad huh? You should probably either get therapy or work that out yourself before embarrassing yourself like that online... it's stupid to blame all of one gender for the actions of a few. I'm sure you'd agree to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:55 PM
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Never said it was. I just pointed out that women do not have an easy time getting healthy relationships. Refuting the statement I was originally replying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:47 PM
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You can't have a healthy relationship with a man you aren't attracted to. My comment stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:20 PM
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We can get sex. Healthy relationships are much harder to obtain.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:14 AM
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Women don't seem to be complaining about lack of partners, just the quality of those partners. Attracting more men on false pretenses is detrimental to her efforts and doesn't change the matches that would benefit her the most. Perhaps the men saying this are simply projecting and overestimating THEIR market value. Angry at women for trying to date out of their league when men do this constantly? This is just the words of bitter men who are upset that they're getting overlooked by women who can …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:36 PM
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I can't make generalizations about the whole blue pill ideology, but I generally lean that way with a few exceptions. I'm an autistic woman who struggles socially, but I found a match in my also autistic husband. My advice for the guy you described would be surface-based. I'd tell him to keep his beard short and trimmed, wear a nice-smelling deodorant, look and smell clean, wear button-down shirts with the sleeves rolled to the elbows. And I'd tell him to be respectful and kind, but never preten…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:43 PM
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Your advice for women is awful lol. Here she is, getting a lot of attention, struggling to find a guy who isn't going to treat her like crap from the people she already attracts, then here you come saying, "you aren't special," "lower your standards," and "be more appealing." Because yes, throwing caution to the wind and ignoring red flags, attracting more guys with a mask on, then choosing at random from the increased pile (with many who only showed up because they liked the mask, which is obvi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:05 PM
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We receive many "requests", and we choose from them. Putting on a mask to get more requests is just stupid. That mask is going to come off down the line, and it's frustrating to learn that your partner hasn't been showing you their true colors. So, our advice is tailored to assist the screening process instead. Your advice is how to pass the screening process. I'm not saying it's fair or right, but the fact is that we're blamed for making a bad choice when it comes to dating. So if a woman doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:52 PM
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