Why aren't red pill men actually adapting anymore?

Hi-Road · 2026-01-10T18:28:18+00:00

Not even close to red pill, but I think you're identifying a problem that covers... the vast majority of people. Not just red pill.

Young, old, woman, man - I haven't seen anyone that hasn't had dating trouble of some sort. It's not a meritocracy. You could listen to all the advice in the world, improve yourself in every way and you still not end up with the result you want. So people are not going to feel better by you offering advice... to better serve other people. While they're feeling hurt. You know?

People are venting to self-soothe. There's nothing "dangerous" or "repugnant" about it. I see "whining" from every demographic, but I've also seen people complaining about people whining just about as much. What exactly are y'all gaining from this? You could come to support people with good faith, or you could just stay neutral and leave them alone. But you choose the negative option. Maybe question why you're doing that yourself?

abaxeron · 2026-01-10T18:46:06+00:00

"I don't like your tone", the thread

Neverending_Danding · 2026-01-10T18:15:34+00:00

Successful/happy with their life people rarely frequent such subs

Adam_Faith_No_More · 2026-01-10T18:29:48+00:00

I thought the red pill was about changing your circumstances and adapting to your environment. Instead, all I ever see y'all do is whine and complain about women.

One of the wiser red pill gurus once said: "You need to learn this shit, so that you can forget it".

And that's really what it boils down to. You take the red pill, you adapt, you internalise it until it becomes second nature, and then you mostly fuck off again.

Red pill spaces will always, at any time, mostly be populated by newbies, and guys who are so blue pill conditioned they never made it past the anger/resentment phase.

Livid-Log7463 · 2026-01-10T21:55:35+00:00

The reason he was successful at all was because he was already exceptional and enough so to make up for being autistic, no matter the traits are exceptionally desirable it was inherently the reason you yourself even considered him.

Ok_Cook_3098 · 2026-01-10T18:21:10+00:00

Tell u how your autistic husband was extrem successful

Zabadoodude · 2026-01-10T18:22:10+00:00

The ones bitching about their life are just more noticeable. I'm very happy with my relationship and my life in general. If it stops working for me, then I will absolutely adapt.

Scramjet1 · 2026-01-10T18:16:25+00:00

Posts like these shows how unaware and out of touch women are when it's about male experience in dating.

James_M_Croft · 2026-01-10T21:16:33+00:00

When you strategize about investment in a market, you need to discuss how everything about what you are investing. The good and the bad. So in market downturns, it seems like everything is bad.

I hope that answers your question.

RealityCold4693 · 2026-01-10T23:11:44+00:00

What makes a man intriguing to you it give me actual examples not some big ass words that that I’m supposed to know the meaning to like integrity you don’t know somebody has integrity until you watch them go through adversity

SecondEldenLord · 2026-01-11T10:13:47+00:00

Yet another one who doesn't comprehend what the redpill is. You see the truth as "bashing women" when in reality we just share what women actually respond to. We don't care what they want or what they think they want, we care what they respond to, that's how we actually adapt to it and that's how we know what we need to do to attract women. Obviously your world is different because both you and your husband are autistic, but that's not how the majority of the world works. Not all men and women are autistic. Majority act as they are but they're not, they are normal functioning humans that respond to certain stimuli, and that's what the redpill is all about: finding the right information about women's behaviour and then adapting to it which is what we are doing but women get angry about it because it makes them look shallow, which they are.

onetimeuseaccc · 2026-01-10T19:09:26+00:00

Because most men have realized the red pill is just cope and in reality you cannot change the real reasons why women do like you; genes. No amount of self improvement can change height, facial structure and race. Those are the only things that actually matter to women in order to get your foot in the door (whether in an LTR or hook up).

The red pill is mostly just gurus scamming lonely and naive men into buying their course which will do nothing for their lives.

LysanderAegis · 2026-01-10T18:12:07+00:00

Why do I need to change circumstances and adaptation? I have a LTR gf, a job I like, good health, friends... I'll do it when I need it.

HandCoversBruises · 2026-01-10T18:09:00+00:00

Because it isn’t worth it anymore

Popeoath · 2026-01-11T00:44:54+00:00

The difficulty level rose past what the average struggling male is able to accomplish via TRP.

midnight_blue77 · 2026-01-11T07:09:19+00:00

I thought the red pill was about changing your circumstances and adapting to your environment.

Those are two mutually exclusive things. The red pill is about finding the truth, and it's up to each individual man to do with that what he will.

all I ever see y'all do is whine and complain about women.

Key words: "all you ever see." It doesn't mean that that is all we ever do.

It seems like y'all aren't actually interested in changing anything. Like you don't want to try.

The majority of us are not interested in playing a game that is rigged against us. Why have no stake in the game.

That's why I broke up with my girlfriend, through no fault of her own, before our relationship would start to predictably deteriorate, and I moved on. Short term pain to avoid life long catastrophe.

xxTx-Toymanxx · 2026-01-10T21:26:58+00:00

They did adapt. Just not in the way women expected or wanted. They just chose a different path.

What worked for you won't work for someone else. Men, generally speaking, approach relationships based off risk vs reward analysis. In some cases we over analyze. If we do not see at least a balanced return on what we invest then we just to avoid or choose to not entertain any relationship.

Make no mistake this has nothing to do with just any red, blue, orange, pink or black pill dynamic. The overall dating and relationship dynamic as a whole has all but collapsed. Even govt's are now taking notice and trying to take active steps to try and get people to enter into relationships to help falling birth rates which for the first time in human history is not meeting the minimal needs to replace the population that is aging and passing away. We are fast approaching what can become a critical tipping point of population stagnation.

Financial_Window_990 · 2026-01-12T01:20:21+00:00

They ARE adapting. Once the adapting is done they stop complaining because it worked.

wtknight · 2026-01-10T19:33:57+00:00

Whining was originally called the "anger phase", and Red Pill men were supposed to get out of it. I think many men are not getting out of the anger phase because they don't actually think that The Red Pill works.

With that being said, I don't go on the Red Pill sub much anymore, but most of the men on this sub with actual Red Pill flairs don't whine that much. The men seeming to do the whining are presumably the men who lean a different color than Red or Blue.

The-Devilz-Advocate · 2026-01-10T19:39:05+00:00

Was your husband medically diagnosed? Or is he riding the quirky mental disability popularity wave like many people do with ADHD?
How was he successful? Like actual details.

3.

I thought the red pill was about changing your circumstances and adapting to your environment. Instead, all I ever see y'all do is whine and complain about women.

Pray tell, if you go to a restaurant are you surprised when you see... people eating?

If you go to a library, are you surprised when people... read books?

This is a debate forum about dating. People debate here. People bring issues and grievances with things they perceive, and we discuss, that includes the "whining," as you call it. I wish I had your level of intelligence, maybe I wouldn't have so many grievances:

https://youtu.be/sdLw8tSUT_Q?t=16s

DzejSiDi · 2026-01-10T20:28:59+00:00

Some of them do nothing but post unflattering comments about women. Some of them just do the work. A lot of them mix both in different proportions.

You can't see people adapting, you can see snarky comments, but it doesn't mean that people actually trying don't exist. Although, I need to point out that in "pill" sphere blackpill is pretty popular, because difficulty of achieving what they want went up, their skills went down and even potential reward went down, so what's the point of trying?

MarioWilson122 · 2026-01-11T03:17:08+00:00

Yeah, it is but men can also speak about the issues with women aswell. Which if course nowadays is basically called whining, even if the person is accurate and has probable solutions. Regardless no reason a man cant walk and chew bubble gum at the same time.

These-Purpose-7019 · 2026-01-11T10:58:41+00:00

Cause either they're stuck in the anger phase or realize that the knowledge isnt going to help them achieve what they want. Redpill usually turns blue when this is acknowledged, but there are prerequisites a man needs to have for the info to actually benefit them. Knowing how dating is for the general public(had to before people use anecdotes or exceptions to the rule) doesnt help those who dont qualify.

Kingcrow33 · 2026-01-11T12:55:55+00:00

I am constantly looking for advice. But the advice is always bad or things I already do. But you can't tell people giving you advice that because then they go to you don't really want help.

This is because they believe in the just world fallacy. If you were doing the thing I would get the outcome. But since I am not I must not be.

So what is your advice to me?

Maleficent-Remote580 · 2026-01-11T15:02:43+00:00

Mens relationship with sexual market place is tied to their relationship with economic market place.

Not surprising since men were relatively blind (as to the nature of that tie up) to the fact that their worth is tied to their economic worth

Back in the 50-80s the view was being a decent man have a good job and you can do well in life. You will find someone.

80-2010s it was all - its ain't enough but you can get better results and happiness of you hustle hard enough.

Now ? The mood is that hustling is a necessity not only to have happinrss but also to survived

Men are essential going through a burnout on love on a scale never before seen. It followed women's burnout

Now relationship sucess is seen as something that comes if you inherently had advantages that are given to you seperate from effort - born to rich parents who can afford tution at ivy leagues to have the social circle to succeed andto have parents to support you while you work in expensive cities until you get promoted . A strict analog to looks and being a chad.

Working to bevome a chad is seen as u realistic as working yo become a millionaire

Capital_Capsicum · 2026-01-12T02:58:44+00:00

It's fairly easy to get burnt out from trying, and not seeing results.

Hit the gym, go to classes, take up hobbies, volunteer, dress nice. Whatever your advice is, a lot of people have tried it. And it didn't work. Not as in, they didn't immediately get swarmed with women. As in no real progress what so over. No new friends, no seeing anyone outside the classes, no getting on a first name basis with anyone. You walk away from the class or whatever without a single social thing to show for it.

So whenever armchair therapists say "You should do XYZ", you assume we haven't done that, and it would work if we tried.

I wouldn't really expect an internet stranger to be able to solve those problems. You might come from a completely different country, culture, social class ect. You're not at the classes I'm at, and you don't know how it works for me, and vice versa.

If you don't think your problem is something you can fix, or at least the solution is far outside what you can fix right now, then you whine because it's cathartic. Because it feels good to know that others see the same problem in the system that you do.

caption291 · 2026-01-11T03:38:07+00:00

Maybe, it's women's turn to adapt to men for once this century? Men aren't interested in chasing a moving goalpost anymore and were tired of being called whiny and entitled by a gender that whines more than us over less than us and feels entitled to us doing anything they want for a crumb of validation.

FairCountry4691 · 2026-01-11T15:09:23+00:00

Question for the moderators: Is the rule about asking Q4X questions that are clearly not in good faith still in effect? Because let's face it...O.P. isn't the least bit interested in honest discourse. It's just interested in taking a dump on men.

Asking for a friend.

Alarmiorc2603 · 2026-01-11T02:01:35+00:00

OP you have literally come to a debate sub, its so ofc people are going to be bringing up points about how society is not serving men what the hell kind of point is this. Also im pretty sure its against the rules of this sub to just say "my life is great in this way" and for everyone to just agree.

Finally OP you are not going to interact with any of the men who dont complain becuase you specifically seak out RP men who dissagree with you.

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2026-01-10T18:30:07+00:00

The original red pill was about men being accountable for their dating life, leveling up and psychoanalysis of women's behavior when they are with men they genuinely desire. This new version of the red pill is a right-wing political grift that's goal is to funnel lonely men into supporting right wing causes.

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TrumpFucksKidz · 2026-01-12T01:26:44+00:00

The ones that have arent online bitching

TopShelfSnipes · 2026-01-12T14:58:35+00:00

Because the red pill men who adapted, obtained success, and don't need to go on about it.

The ones who didn't now control the platform and the messaging, and use it as cathartic group screaming rather than anything constructive, but there's no end to the catharsis phase, which is why it devolves into 15 page dissertations about "women's nature" and spreadsheets and checklists, none of which have ever attracted any woman whatsoever.

Which is also why redpill advice went from "be fun and interesting, meet women, stop giving such a fuck about the outcome, and just go have fun" to "staying at home and gaming and looking at porn all the time is fine because if you're hot a woman will want you anyway" because these guys have no idea what's actually working behind the scenes with attraction, and it's easy to just conclude it's looks when you think binary and lack the emotional intelligence to understand things that go beyond surface level like why confidence is attractive and why insecurity is like repellant.

SomeGift9250 · 2026-01-15T14:52:16+00:00

What's your view on feminism and the constant male bashing? Isn't it alright to criticize when one does wrong?

There's nothing wrong with airing your frustrations, this is a free country.

BigMadLad · 2026-01-11T01:59:55+00:00

Firstly, you lost a bunch of people at autistic female, your perspective is kind of useless. Unless there’s guys here who are specifically going for autistic women, your perspective or advice is inherently tied to your life, which is not very useful if you’re going for a normal woman.

Secondly, everyone has the right to quit the game if they think the game is far too broken. In the past, it wasn’t necessarily broken, just difficult, and therefore you could make changes. Now, a lot of men feel the games completely rigged and there’s no winning.

Whiskeymyers75 · 2026-01-11T05:48:02+00:00

Because it would require them to actually eat healthy and go to the gym. But they would rather sit on their ass and post on Reddit all day.

Ainsleygz · 2026-01-11T06:18:41+00:00

The red pill lost its frame

Logical_Breadfruit49 · 2026-01-11T10:25:21+00:00

Just another humblebragging post it seems.

Perfect_Sir4820 · 2026-01-11T14:18:02+00:00

Adapt to what? Have women's dating preferences changed?

Do you need some advice? Would you even listen to it? I'm just an autistic female

Your stellar qualifications aside, why not just offer your advice directly instead of concern trolling or whatever this post is trying to do?

Cool_Ranch_2511 · 2026-01-11T03:22:49+00:00

I know irony often escapes the autist, but come on.

Sonic_The_Hamster · 2026-01-13T17:51:39+00:00

So here we have a standard tactic of a woman looking to get men to do what she wants them to, she tries to shame them into complying, doesn't actually work on real red pill men.

Red Pill is not about adapting to women it's about realising you are worth more than some woman determines you are and living your life accordingly. It's about knowing the average woman isn't worth compromising for and just being yourself and going your own way.

The odd thing is Red Pill has never promoted itself in the way you think it has so where did you get this strawman from?

Superannuated_punk · 2026-01-10T20:33:49+00:00

Red pill was always about whining.

It was never about actually doing anything. At very best it was talking about doing something.

Title	Why aren't red pill men actually adapting anymore?
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