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11005

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights12/09/16 04:20 PM
5949

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights08/01/16 08:03 PM
5522

xynomaster/r/MensRights13/09/16 03:30 PM
4984

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights19/08/15 02:50 AM
4526

xynomaster/r/MensRights04/06/16 05:04 AM
4288

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights30/06/16 04:22 PM
4123

xynomaster/r/MensRights23/05/16 12:24 PM
3074

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights06/10/15 01:53 PM
2515

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights28/11/15 02:44 AM
2074

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights20/11/15 04:18 PM
1934

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights03/03/16 04:18 PM
1376

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights15/06/16 06:26 AM
1231

Legal Rightsxynomaster/r/MensRights30/10/15 02:43 AM
1193

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights07/03/16 05:13 PM
1167

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights03/07/15 09:27 PM
1076

xynomaster/r/MensRights05/03/16 04:05 PM
1059

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights16/09/15 08:54 PM
1013

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights19/07/15 02:04 PM
985

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights07/10/15 01:20 PM
971

xynomaster/r/MensRights06/01/17 04:02 PM
913

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights03/06/15 05:37 PM
868

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights28/06/16 05:13 PM
865

xynomaster/r/MensRights27/10/16 07:28 PM
733

xynomaster/r/MensRights06/05/16 10:37 PM
716

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights11/12/15 06:49 PM
645

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights08/12/15 02:42 PM
594

xynomaster/r/MensRights15/01/16 04:57 AM
569

xynomaster/r/MensRights10/09/16 04:31 PM
552

Legal Rightsxynomaster/r/MensRights27/11/15 03:09 PM
542

xynomaster/r/MensRights18/05/16 10:23 PM
486

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights01/04/16 03:27 PM
477

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights08/06/16 03:12 AM
444

xynomaster/r/MensRights17/05/16 10:51 PM
419

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights20/01/16 06:13 PM
416

xynomaster/r/MensRights20/05/16 08:14 PM
399

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights18/08/15 03:25 PM
373

Legal Rightsxynomaster/r/MensRights28/03/16 11:05 PM
362

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights21/07/15 12:42 AM
336

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights05/11/15 09:39 PM
330

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights25/07/15 12:03 AM
324

Edu./Occu.xynomaster/r/MensRights02/02/16 06:08 PM
317

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights21/08/15 06:47 PM
313

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights18/12/15 04:26 PM
309

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights04/08/15 10:13 PM
304

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights08/08/15 01:14 AM
303

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights11/01/16 06:10 AM
302

xynomaster/r/MensRights28/10/16 03:23 PM
293

xynomaster/r/MensRights31/12/15 10:43 PM
293

xynomaster/r/MensRights18/06/16 04:40 PM
291

xynomaster/r/MensRights03/05/16 12:47 AM
283

xynomaster/r/MensRights21/04/16 02:52 PM
278

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights15/10/15 10:54 PM
273

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights18/06/15 11:37 PM
271

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights08/12/15 04:03 PM
262

xynomaster/r/MensRights01/03/16 03:56 PM
250

xynomaster/r/MensRights10/08/16 04:15 PM
250

xynomaster/r/MensRights21/06/16 04:18 PM
238

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights29/01/16 06:41 PM
235

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights21/04/16 01:44 AM
230

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights15/06/16 02:43 PM
224

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights05/04/16 01:33 PM
211

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights11/07/15 05:10 PM
208

xynomaster/r/MensRights09/02/16 03:42 AM
204

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights18/07/15 03:37 AM
202

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights04/02/16 01:57 AM
202

xynomaster/r/MensRights06/01/16 09:30 PM
198

Legal Rightsxynomaster/r/MensRights13/02/16 07:14 PM
192

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights29/02/16 07:15 PM
192

xynomaster/r/MensRights14/06/16 09:15 PM
191

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights03/02/16 04:54 PM
189

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights16/09/15 10:31 PM
188

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights26/01/16 11:47 PM
185

Edu./Occu.xynomaster/r/MensRights02/02/16 02:24 PM
184

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights07/06/16 02:37 PM
182

xynomaster/r/MensRights12/08/16 12:34 AM
182

xynomaster/r/MensRights12/10/16 04:05 PM
182

xynomaster/r/MensRights25/02/16 05:39 AM
178

xynomaster/r/MensRights06/07/16 07:37 AM
173

xynomaster/r/MensRights22/12/15 03:18 AM
173

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights28/06/15 04:31 AM
173

xynomaster/r/MensRights30/01/16 01:29 AM
172

xynomaster/r/MensRights09/03/16 08:07 PM
169

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights29/10/15 05:40 PM
168

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights17/12/15 12:55 PM
168

xynomaster/r/MensRights26/07/16 09:37 PM
167

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights04/02/16 01:37 PM
161

xynomaster/r/MensRights02/09/16 04:00 PM
160

xynomaster/r/MensRights30/08/16 04:08 PM
159

Ragebaitxynomaster/r/MensRights21/04/15 05:59 AM
158

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights22/03/16 01:58 PM
158

xynomaster/r/MensRights05/05/16 04:05 PM
157

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights11/11/15 10:25 PM
156

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights01/09/15 04:16 AM
155

Legal Rightsxynomaster/r/MensRights17/11/15 04:11 PM
154

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights20/02/16 03:31 AM
154

xynomaster/r/MensRights26/02/16 06:57 PM
153

xynomaster/r/MensRights30/09/16 03:58 PM
151

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights15/03/16 02:57 PM
149

xynomaster/r/MensRights15/02/16 11:12 PM
148

xynomaster/r/MensRights23/04/16 03:04 PM
145

xynomaster/r/MensRights10/02/16 12:55 AM
139

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights08/10/15 06:06 PM
132

xynomaster/r/MensRights27/05/16 03:16 PM
131

xynomaster/r/MensRights31/03/16 03:30 PM
131

xynomaster/r/MensRights10/05/16 01:33 AM
128

xynomaster/r/MensRights08/03/16 05:09 AM
127

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights04/01/16 09:27 PM
127

xynomaster/r/MensRights04/03/16 02:23 PM
125

xynomaster/r/MensRights28/04/16 01:04 AM
122

xynomaster/r/MensRights30/01/16 04:51 PM
122

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights31/08/15 07:01 PM
121

Generalxynomaster/r/MensRights10/11/15 05:26 PM
121

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights15/12/15 08:21 PM
119

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights19/10/15 10:15 PM
119

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights01/09/15 04:26 AM
117

xynomaster/r/MensRights27/01/16 02:30 PM
115

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights02/11/15 05:36 PM
114

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights22/09/15 01:15 AM
112

Legal Rightsxynomaster/r/MensRights19/09/15 02:20 PM
110

xynomaster/r/MensRights06/01/17 11:31 PM
109

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights19/08/15 10:06 PM
106

xynomaster/r/MensRights18/10/16 03:09 PM
106

xynomaster/r/MensRights04/06/16 04:03 PM
106

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights09/10/15 05:52 PM
105

xynomaster/r/MensRights20/07/16 04:19 PM
105

False Accusationxynomaster/r/MensRights03/11/15 03:41 PM
105

xynomaster/r/MensRights06/04/16 08:47 PM
104

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights08/03/16 09:46 PM
104

xynomaster/r/MensRights11/01/17 05:45 PM
104

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights09/12/15 11:27 PM
101

xynomaster/r/MensRights22/04/16 01:36 PM
100

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights16/06/16 02:40 PM
100

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights25/09/15 07:21 PM
100

xynomaster/r/MensRights11/10/16 05:28 PM
99

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights14/08/15 12:16 AM
99

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights05/01/16 03:18 AM
98

Eastern Culturexynomaster/r/MensRights21/08/15 11:08 PM
98

xynomaster/r/MensRights19/08/16 05:10 PM
97

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights01/12/15 05:18 PM
96

xynomaster/r/MensRights17/03/16 02:11 PM
95

Eastern Culturexynomaster/r/MensRights16/06/15 05:22 PM
95

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights09/11/15 05:29 PM
93

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights30/12/15 10:52 PM
93

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights06/10/15 10:26 PM
91

xynomaster/r/MensRights22/05/16 12:15 AM
90

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights24/10/15 03:39 PM
89

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights30/05/16 09:35 PM
88

xynomaster/r/MensRights14/06/16 04:38 PM
86

xynomaster/r/MensRights02/10/16 07:08 PM
86

xynomaster/r/MensRights21/05/16 04:51 PM
86

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights13/08/16 05:14 PM
85

xynomaster/r/MensRights11/03/16 02:27 PM
83

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights08/12/15 06:47 PM
83

xynomaster/r/MensRights21/04/16 01:19 PM
82

xynomaster/r/MensRights08/09/16 04:14 PM
81

xynomaster/r/MensRights31/03/16 05:48 PM
80

Legal Rightsxynomaster/r/MensRights18/12/15 01:49 AM
80

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights24/08/15 12:46 PM
80

xynomaster/r/MensRights26/09/16 05:36 PM
79

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights24/09/15 12:11 AM
78

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights24/02/16 02:41 PM
78

xynomaster/r/MensRights27/09/16 03:21 PM
76

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights05/02/16 11:00 PM
76

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights07/12/15 11:10 PM
75

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights03/10/15 03:21 AM
74

xynomaster/r/MensRights26/04/16 03:30 PM
73

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights15/07/16 08:35 PM
71

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights06/10/15 04:05 AM
71

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights22/09/15 03:35 PM
70

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights15/12/15 01:23 AM
70

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights01/07/16 06:22 AM
69

xynomaster/r/MensRights17/05/16 04:26 AM
68

xynomaster/r/MensRights10/06/16 02:53 PM
68

xynomaster/r/MensRights19/01/16 11:09 PM
66

xynomaster/r/MensRights18/03/16 09:27 PM
66

xynomaster/r/MensRights27/04/16 04:30 PM
65

xynomaster/r/MensRights26/01/16 01:50 AM
64

Edu./Occu.xynomaster/r/MensRights28/01/16 10:36 PM
64

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights22/12/15 11:54 PM
64

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights25/09/15 12:02 AM
63

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights29/03/16 06:55 PM
63

xynomaster/r/MensRights17/03/16 09:18 PM
63

Legal Rightsxynomaster/r/MensRights25/11/15 09:59 PM
61

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights22/08/16 05:03 PM
61

xynomaster/r/MensRights23/03/16 01:41 PM
61

Legal Rightsxynomaster/r/MensRights08/12/15 10:34 PM
60

xynomaster/r/MensRights17/02/16 02:47 PM
60

xynomaster/r/MensRights19/04/16 08:02 PM
60

xynomaster/r/MensRights27/01/16 07:38 PM
60

xynomaster/r/MensRights08/09/16 11:17 PM
59

xynomaster/r/MensRights12/01/17 07:15 PM
59

xynomaster/r/MensRights14/02/16 08:46 PM
58

Eastern Culturexynomaster/r/MensRights28/09/15 01:18 AM
58

Legal Rightsxynomaster/r/MensRights15/06/16 08:36 PM
58

Eastern Culturexynomaster/r/MensRights05/09/15 04:33 AM
58

xynomaster/r/MensRights24/04/16 04:58 PM
57

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights05/01/16 12:38 AM
57

Legal Rightsxynomaster/r/MensRights29/01/16 09:49 PM
56

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights07/02/16 12:43 AM
55

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights15/04/16 04:18 PM
55

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights12/05/16 02:49 PM
55

xynomaster/r/MensRights29/09/16 04:50 PM
54

xynomaster/r/MensRights16/03/16 09:25 PM
54

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights19/03/16 03:14 PM
54

xynomaster/r/MensRights09/07/16 04:54 AM
53

xynomaster/r/MensRights29/04/16 08:39 PM
53

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights14/11/15 07:39 PM
53

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights28/04/15 10:47 PM
52

xynomaster/r/MensRights29/07/16 11:48 PM
52

Edu./Occu.xynomaster/r/MensRights16/12/15 10:06 PM
52

Edu./Occu.xynomaster/r/MensRights07/12/15 06:32 PM
51

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights29/10/15 03:17 AM
50

xynomaster/r/MensRights15/01/16 12:22 AM
50

Legal Rightsxynomaster/r/MensRights02/05/15 12:08 AM
50

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights04/04/16 03:42 PM
49

Generalxynomaster/r/MensRights08/09/15 03:13 PM
49

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights30/11/15 05:39 PM
48

Legal Rightsxynomaster/r/MensRights04/12/15 12:41 AM
48

xynomaster/r/MensRights20/09/16 02:38 PM
47

xynomaster/r/MensRights16/09/16 05:01 PM
46

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights30/08/15 01:25 AM
46

Eastern Culturexynomaster/r/MensRights01/06/15 08:01 PM
46

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights13/07/15 03:47 AM
43

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights20/02/16 03:05 PM
43

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights14/12/15 03:07 AM
43

xynomaster/r/MensRights09/09/16 04:57 PM
43

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights07/08/15 02:12 PM
41

xynomaster/r/MensRights15/01/16 04:47 PM
41

xynomaster/r/MensRights09/02/16 10:19 PM
41

xynomaster/r/MensRights26/01/16 03:02 AM
40

xynomaster/r/MensRights28/09/16 03:35 PM
40

xynomaster/r/MensRights29/04/16 02:54 PM
39

xynomaster/r/MensRights18/02/16 09:52 PM
38

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights17/05/16 10:40 PM
37

Legal Rightsxynomaster/r/MensRights08/09/15 06:28 PM
37

Discriminationxynomaster/r/MensRights02/02/16 10:00 PM
37

xynomaster/r/MensRights24/04/16 06:11 PM
36

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights11/11/15 03:18 AM
36

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights22/06/15 05:10 AM
36

Edu./Occu.xynomaster/r/MensRights04/02/16 09:31 PM
36

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights12/11/15 04:01 AM
35

xynomaster/r/MensRights10/02/16 08:27 PM
34

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights31/07/15 05:02 AM
33

xynomaster/r/MensRights10/01/17 04:44 PM
33

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights16/05/15 03:33 AM
32

Edu./Occu.xynomaster/r/MensRights01/02/16 03:23 PM
32

xynomaster/r/MensRights30/03/16 12:57 PM
32

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights26/09/15 12:24 AM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights24/09/15 02:13 PM
31

xynomaster/r/MensRights04/05/16 08:12 PM
30

xynomaster/r/MensRights05/08/16 04:22 PM
30

xynomaster/r/MensRights09/03/17 04:28 PM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights06/05/16 01:57 AM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights11/03/16 04:46 PM
29

xynomaster/r/MensRights16/01/16 06:18 PM
29

Generalxynomaster/r/MensRights12/09/15 07:51 PM
28

xynomaster/r/MensRights17/02/16 08:53 PM
28

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights06/09/15 01:04 AM
28

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights29/09/15 05:44 PM
27

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights26/08/15 01:47 AM
27

xynomaster/r/MensRights10/02/16 06:06 PM
27

xynomaster/r/MensRights17/02/16 04:31 AM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights20/02/16 01:33 AM
27

Generalxynomaster/r/MensRights05/06/15 04:11 PM
26

Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights04/06/15 07:16 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights26/09/15 06:51 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights10/06/15 02:53 AM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights31/05/15 04:34 AM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights08/07/17 04:16 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights24/06/15 01:22 PM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights27/04/16 07:30 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights25/08/15 11:45 PM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights15/03/16 08:02 PM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights17/08/16 05:28 PM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights28/04/16 03:41 PM
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Generalxynomaster/r/MensRights10/10/15 01:57 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights24/06/15 02:54 AM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights02/03/16 04:51 AM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights21/10/16 04:55 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights07/09/15 07:18 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights23/08/15 11:42 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights07/05/15 07:22 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights30/09/15 10:49 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights06/07/16 08:25 PM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights02/08/16 03:02 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights02/04/16 03:53 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights09/07/15 11:12 PM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights22/01/16 04:26 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights23/09/15 11:26 PM
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Intactivismxynomaster/r/MensRights02/12/15 05:21 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights03/11/15 07:04 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights10/07/15 08:09 PM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights06/04/16 12:51 PM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights09/05/16 06:04 PM
18

Edu./Occu.xynomaster/r/MensRights26/07/15 09:04 PM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights23/01/16 07:29 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights28/05/15 04:35 PM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights13/05/16 12:39 PM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights11/02/16 09:22 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights23/07/15 04:43 PM
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False Accusationxynomaster/r/MensRights05/06/15 08:31 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights19/06/15 02:43 AM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights28/08/15 03:19 PM
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Legal Rightsxynomaster/r/MensRights11/02/16 03:56 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights28/08/15 04:11 AM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights15/10/15 03:44 AM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights17/11/15 04:44 AM
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Legal Rightsxynomaster/r/MensRights27/05/15 06:24 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights05/11/15 12:32 AM
14

xynomaster/r/MensRights03/05/16 03:26 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights20/05/15 03:09 AM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights03/02/16 09:07 PM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights19/05/15 04:04 AM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights07/02/16 04:25 AM
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Social Issuesxynomaster/r/MensRights19/06/15 08:19 PM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights10/12/15 07:29 PM
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xynomaster/r/MensRights16/02/16 12:15 AM
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I've got to say, I'm pleasantly surprised. I was sure she was going to get away with this. Glad she didn't.
/r/MensRights13/01/17 08:38 PM
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Deferred adjucation probation...so not only no jail time, she won't even have a criminal record. That's honestly disgusting.
/r/MensRights13/01/17 04:24 PM
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The judge ruled in this case that the mandatory minimum was illegal in general, not just in this particular case. Probably a large part of the motivation behind the appeal.
/r/MensRights10/01/17 11:49 PM
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Not that it makes it all that much better, but apparently the victims were former students, who were 15 and 17 at the time it occurred.
/r/MensRights10/01/17 11:22 PM
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Wasn't brought up in the article, but feminists have been arguing for ages that women should be given more lenient sentences than men for the same crime, especially when they are primary caregivers (as was the case here). They've even gotten it included in the official UK sentencing guidelines.
/r/PussyPass09/01/17 03:26 AM
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The biggest problem we're facing is lack of exposure. A lot of our ideas are good and would be popular if presented fairly, but we simply don't have a platform to express them. We need to somehow get a platform for that, and when we do use it responsibly. No attacking "SJWs", fat-shaming, ranting against single mothers, transphobia, or any of that. Talk about popular issues that most people would agree need to be fixed - male-only draft, sentencing discrepancies, unfair treatment of male domesti…
/r/MensRights09/01/17 12:05 AM
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I completely agree in that I think we should focus on children. Opposing women's issues, however dishonest they may be presented (wage gap, rape culture, etc), will only make us look bad. But when arguing to help men we often run into the empathy gap, in that people just don't care - which is why phrasing it as trying to help kids can be effective. When all you're doing is arguing that someone who raped a 12 year old shouldn't get probation it's hard for them to attack you and still pretend to b…
/r/MensRights08/01/17 11:51 PM
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So even if its legal to fuck someone 16 in some other country, you violate federal law because its 18 for U.S. government Sure, that's something the federal government is allowed to regulate because it involves interstate / international travel. If a state decides to make its age of consent 14, and someone in that state has sex with a 15 year old, the federal government cannot come in and arrest them for it. There is no federal law that was violated.
/r/MensRights08/01/17 11:38 PM
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The United States legal system is only allowed to make laws against certain types of crimes - terrorist attacks, treason, and interstate crimes, to name a few. Laws like statutory rape are defined and controlled entirely by individual states. A state could, if it wanted, decide not to have any statutory rape laws at all, and that would be perfectly fine. (As it stands now, every state has statutory rape laws with an age of consent between 16 and 18).
/r/MensRights08/01/17 09:27 PM
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Well, thanks for that regardless.
/r/MensRights08/01/17 07:35 PM
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If you have a second, please email the UK attorney general's office at [email protected] and ask them to review this sentence. It was worked a number of times in the past to get similar sentences overturned (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). If you don't want to be bothered writing your own email, you can feel free to use the one I sent: I'm writing to refer the case of Terri Spragg for review as unduly lenient. According to news reports she was convicted of seven counts of sexual activi…
/r/PussyPass08/01/17 06:12 PM
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If you have a second, please email the UK attorney general's office at [email protected] and ask them to review this sentence. It was worked a number of times in the past to get similar sentences overturned (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). If you don't want to be bothered writing your own email, you can feel free to use the one I sent: I'm writing to refer the case of Terri Spragg for review as unduly lenient. According to news reports she was convicted of seven counts of sexual activi…
/r/MensRights08/01/17 06:08 PM
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Grab em by the pussy? Blood coming out of her...wherever?
/r/MensRights08/01/17 07:38 AM
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You know, I've seen this sort of thing (woman forcing kid to have sex by threatening him with rape accusations) often enough that I can only wonder how frequently women do this to guys their own age, and it just never gets reported because no one cares.
/r/MensRights07/01/17 05:23 AM
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I don't think it was sarcastic. Just pointing out that courts should make sex abusers pay for their victim's therapy by default, so it shouldn't count as "bonus points" for her.
/r/MensRights28/10/16 09:25 PM
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She got the absolute max. She was convicted on 2 charges punishable by 2-15 years each. Judge gave her 15 years for each and then stacked them on top of each other.
/r/MensRights28/10/16 03:46 PM
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I know. I don't know if you saw the other thread, about the teacher convicted of "sexual touching" (not even sex) with a 16 year old girl and got 30 years without parole. Teacher is arguing sentence wasn't fair because if she molested a boy the punishment would have been lighter. We just keep seeing more and more evidence that this is true.
/r/MensRights28/10/16 03:37 PM
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Because it would be bad press for the political party that did, likely. And frankly, I even agree with it. Your husband should have no say over what you do with your body. Some sort of "financial abortion" for men might be a better option, but no one will ever go for that either.
/r/MensRights18/10/16 03:31 PM
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Another good result! Thanks to everyone who helped report this sentence to the attorney general for review when it was first announced.
/r/MensRights18/10/16 03:10 PM
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Because it was already ruled unconstitutional and no facts have changed? It still is.
/r/MensRights18/10/16 03:05 PM
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There are also various international conventions on the rights of women to receive non-custodial sentences, unfortunately.
/r/MensRights13/10/16 06:20 AM
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It makes a lot more sense when you realize Trump is a complete dumbass who probably would brag about half those things himself.
/r/MensRights13/10/16 06:19 AM
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The media doesn't give a flying fuck about boys who are raped until they can use it to attack Donald Trump. Typical.
/r/MensRights13/10/16 04:42 AM
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It's a different story, though. The woman from the last story is still getting probation.
/r/MensRights12/10/16 04:58 PM
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I know this article is a few weeks old, but I never saw it until now and thought it would be nice to share some good news for once. At least some judges are willing to treat boys equally.
/r/MensRights12/10/16 04:06 PM
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The US is hugely biased as well. I'd bet the only reason she got prison in the US is because it was classed as child sex tourism, which is a federal crime, and the Feds can't be too biased since there's mandatory minimums for everything. Most state cases still end in no jail time though :(
/r/MensRights12/10/16 03:53 PM
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Canada had this awhile, and it was great - women actually were being punished for raping young boys. Then the liberals did away with it and now it's basically legal for women to rape again (although the men still go to prison). Hopefully they don't let women wiggle out of these sentences. Could be a very good thing if boys can actually feel safe coming forward knowing they will get justice.
/r/MensRights12/10/16 04:47 AM
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Trump is an asshole, everyone knows this. He also made a comment about a 14 year old boy who was sexually abused by an adult woman and how that probably gave him "confidence". I never understood how some people think he's a good thing for men's rights. Now whether he's worse than the left, that's another question entirely.
/r/MensRights12/10/16 04:44 AM
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Yes, they can, if they feel they don't have enough evidence to get a conviction or they feel sorry for the accused.
/r/MensRights12/10/16 01:36 AM
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This article was written by her family, not his. When your own family is writing op-eds saying you should be in prison you know the system is fucked.
/r/MensRights11/10/16 07:35 PM
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Here's the article discussing the charges she actually plead guilty to. At least she's being punished though, which is the most important thing.
/r/MensRights30/09/16 04:00 PM
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Except that Clinton has actually put forward a plan for "gender responsive sentencing" that would effectively ruin the (small) chance boy victims have of seeing their rapists punished. Trump wouldn't actually do anything about his ideas. Clinton is much more dangerous in this regard imo.
/r/MensRights30/09/16 03:16 AM
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It says additional, and that her probation doesn't begin until she is released from prison. To my understanding she has one sentence of 16 months to serve, and then an additional three years probation.
/r/MensRights29/09/16 04:54 PM
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Oh fuck Donald Trump. Of course Hillary defends the same thing with her "gender responsive justice" bullshit. I hate them both. But if Hillary Clinton actually makes an issue out of this I'll probably vote for her.
/r/MensRights29/09/16 04:45 PM
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No problem! I can't say much about this subreddit, as I'm not usually on it. I posted this story to mensrights and saw someone had posted it here as well so I came over to look. I don't doubt that most women, and most feminists, support equal sentencing. There is even evidence to show that, in countries like the US where jail for women is still allowed, an increase in the number of female prosecutors and judges is directly responsible for female sex offenders being treated more harshly. The prob…
/r/PussyPassDenied28/09/16 08:43 PM
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Just to clarify before I get into this, because I've had this discussion with people before - I'm not accusing Hillary Clinton, or these other feminists I'm talking about, of deliberately being rape apologists. There are some feminists who I would blame for this - Germaine Greer is a great example. She compiled a book using half-naked photos of underage boys, without their consent and in many cases explicitly against their wishes, and tried to sell it to women because she thought it was sexist t…
/r/PussyPassDenied28/09/16 05:02 PM
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The problem, unfortunately, is that her whole "incarceration isn't for me" argument only works because it's mirroring a common feminist argument that "incarceration isn't the solution for women". In the UK, this has resulted in the government slowly closing all women's prisons under feminist pressure, and now virtually every female sex offender walks free. In the US, Hillary Clinton has made similar promises should she become president. You can see people like Hillary Clinton and her counterpart…
/r/PussyPassDenied28/09/16 03:27 PM
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Another absolutely disgusting case. The last 5 or 6 of these cases in the UK have basically shown that it is, de-facto legal for women to rape underage boys to their heart's content. Please consider sending an email to the attorney general to request an appeal: https://www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review
/r/MensRights26/09/16 05:37 PM
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Seems like there's already a petition for removing her lol. Source. Maybe she's not discriminating against boys, she's just a pedophile apologist. Who knows. I'm still going to be following this case so we can let the attorney general know that it needs to be appealed after the sentence is passed. Edit: Yeah. She just seems to be really lenient on this type of thing overall. http://www.cumbriacrack.com/2016/02/11/child-sex-offender-spared-jail/
/r/MensRights20/09/16 11:19 PM
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I really don't think so. She won the nomination, and DNC rules say that you cannot force someone to step aside unless it's their decision.
/r/MensRights19/09/16 12:26 AM
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It makes sense once you realize that this happened in the UK, where feminists control the legal system.
/r/MensRights18/09/16 05:26 AM
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This is the tough part, though. What if they aren't a big threat to society? Whether or not these reports are correct, these types of abusers often are characterized as NOT being a high risk of reoffending, which is a huge part of the problem. For instance, most women that sexually abuse young boys are not found to be pedophiles at high risk of reoffending. Same for most college athletes that rape drunk or unconscious women. There's something to say about there being a bias in how these reports …
/r/MensRights18/09/16 04:02 AM
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That said, I think sentencing as a whole needs to be reevaluated, and the prison system in general. But not in a gendered way. I agree with this. Ideally, I believe prison should only be for those who are a threat to society, and other punishments should be used for everyone else. But there do actually have to be punishments - probation, suspended sentences, a few hours of community service, just don't cut it for rape. It seems like feminists, Hillary Clinton, etc, support the "prison won't help…
/r/MensRights18/09/16 03:36 AM
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Taking /u/chocoboat's (very helpful) explanation into account, the philosophy behind this isn't unreasonable. That said, saying "Poverty is sexist" is a bad idea, and not because I personally care one way or the other. But it just sounds ridiculous. What he really means is that "Treatment of the poor" or "expectations on the poor" are sexist. But people will hear "poverty is sexist", and "climate change is sexist", and "mental illness is sexist", and begin just tuning these statements out as "oh…
/r/MensRights18/09/16 03:14 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/MensRights18/09/16 03:05 AM
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I'm curious what you think about this, then - feminists advocating for a "gender responsive" justice system that treats women more leniently than men. This sort of thinking is, I believe, the reason Jade Hatt's case went the way it did, and the reason so many other cases involving women abusing boys go the way they do. It's also why I feel drawn to voting Trump, despite agreeing with many more of Hillary's policies. And as a victim of assault myself, I hope this kid finds the help he needs. Arou…
/r/MensRights18/09/16 02:59 AM
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I'm not sure if this article mentions it, but I followed the story at the time. We did have the boy's voice. He said he didn't like it, felt uncomfortable, and had wanted it to stop. Hatt's response to the media a few days after being let off was something to the effect of "I know he said he didn't like it but he really did. he loves older girls" She also has been caught filming children on a bus recently. I don't know if anything ever came of that. http://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/14296661…
/r/MensRights18/09/16 02:54 AM
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I don't mind rewarding even the worst publications with direct links when they write articles like this that help our cause.
/r/MensRights18/09/16 02:52 AM
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The Young Turks segment wasn't great, but the Salon one was possibly one of better articles on this type of abuse I've seen to date. The post on it is here, for anyone interested.
/r/MensRights18/09/16 02:41 AM
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I never understand why this sentence wasn't overturned on appeal. The reasoning for the original sentence was so obviously crap. The appeals judge handling the case was the same one who decided to jail Caroline Berriman, whose case seems to be less serious. It doesn't make sense to me.
/r/MensRights17/09/16 11:15 PM
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I posted a number of articles about this here when it was first happening. Salon has a surprisingly amazing article about the whole thing. Also, there was a nice one from The Guardian, we have one called "Patriarchy hurts male rape victims" on the subject, and TYT even did a piece on the story. There was a petition and the attorney general appealed the sentence, but unfortunately it was upheld.
/r/MensRights17/09/16 11:11 PM
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To be perfectly fair, there was a decent amount of outrage over this when it happened last year. There was international media coverage, Salon, The Young Turks, a bunch of traditionally fairly feminist-type media outlets discussed it. There was a petition calling for an appeal of the sentence that got a lot of signatures, and there was an appeal to try for a jail sentence, but unfortunately it wasn't successful.
/r/MensRights17/09/16 11:04 PM
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In certain places, it has. But not all.
/r/MensRights14/09/16 08:01 AM
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Yes, and the whole world would be in a fury over it. They are denying boys a vaccine that could save their life because "it's cheaper to only give it to girls". It's considered sexist not to cover birth control for women. But perfectly acceptable not to cover a vaccine that will save boys from cancer just because it's cheaper to let them die?
/r/MensRights13/09/16 04:11 PM
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To start with: This wouldn't be called rape even if the victim were a girl. NZ doesn't call it rape unless the victim is younger - for teenagers like this, the crime is the same. That said, I think a major problem is that it suggests this offense is less serious. When you're not talking about forcible rape but statutory rape, it's not immediately obvious why a man having sex with a 12 year old girl is worse than a woman doing it with a boy, just because one involves penetration and the other doe…
/r/MensRights13/09/16 12:13 AM
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Well, again, we aren't punishing this lady for what she will or won't do in the future or to keep others from doing it, its to punish her for her actions. Not necessarily true. A big part of most justice systems is deterrence, as well as keeping dangerous individuals removed from society and getting justice for victims. You don't send one kid to the corner to prevent the another from acting up, you get send them to the corner because they've messed up and actions have consequences. The whole poi…
/r/MensRights12/09/16 10:16 PM
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He said she was ruled unlikely to reoffend, as pretty much all women are, which definitely played into her light sentence. I think by "deterrence" he meant of others. As in, if it becomes clear that we give suspended sentences every time this happens, female pedophiles will stop taking the law seriously and more kids will get hurt. So we have to send her to jail even though she's not really a danger to the public. A very good reason imo.
/r/MensRights12/09/16 07:25 PM
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Definitely. I looked into it a bit more, and this is from another article. This woman was really great. Whenever Mitchell's counsel countered the state's 25-year offer, Assistant District Attorney Kelley Crisp responded by saying, "I'm ready for trial." Though the male judge in this case is amazing too: "I could have stacked those two aggravated charges, and I probably would have done so if a jury had given you less than 25 years," Lockhart said. http://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/texarkana/st…
/r/MensRights11/09/16 11:01 PM
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Sorry I don't buy this, especially when it is a woman with a boy. Since you seem so concerned with evidence, do you have any evidence that gender makes a difference here? Every study I've ever seen shows otherwise. Where is the serious research that proves beyond any reasonable doubt that sex with an adult is damaging to a boy body and mind, but sex with a 16 yo is not? I don't know any studies for this offhand, but I've been posting about these cases for quite a while now, and of the kids who c…
/r/MensRights11/09/16 07:47 AM
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From 25 years to 2 years, you seem to "take away from the seriousness of the crime" more than me :) I guess I should clarify. My philosophy on sentencing is that lengthy prison sentences should be used only for those who are a danger to the public. Spending a few years in prison is still a pretty substantial punishment, and is enough to both deter the crime and let the victim feel they've gotten justice. That doesn't mean the crime isn't serious, far from it. It's a horrible crime and she's a ho…
/r/MensRights11/09/16 07:29 AM
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The longest one I've seen was actually this one from a few days ago, that I meant to post but I guess forgot to for whatever reason. Mom who raped her 10 year old son got 41 years to life in prison. Won't be eligible for parole until 2049, apparently.
/r/MensRights11/09/16 05:30 AM
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Sentences are to be served concurrently, so all that really matters is the longest one. Which is pretty typical in situations when someone is convicted of a series of related crimes.
/r/MensRights11/09/16 05:26 AM
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It's a 25 year sentence, parole after half is 12.5 years. Sentences are concurrent aka served at the same time. And she was facing sentencing by a jury, not the judge, although I don't disagree that she had a good shot at probation if she took it to trial.
/r/MensRights11/09/16 05:23 AM
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Served concurrently though.
/r/MensRights11/09/16 05:22 AM
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At least half, according to the article. 12.5 years is still a long, long time.
/r/MensRights11/09/16 04:28 AM
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Of course not, because that is not the real reason they hand down infernal sentences like it was candy, they follow the feminist holy revelations that sex between minors and adults should be punished with almost life sentences. I'm not sure I totally understand your argument. Are you arguing that 25 year sentences are unduly harsh for someone who is no danger to the public? I agree with this...I think a substantial sentence (maybe 2+ years) is needed in these cases to make victims feel cared for…
/r/MensRights11/09/16 04:10 AM
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The DA prosecuting the case was a woman. There's definitely some evidence that female prosecutors are much better at handling these kinds of cases than men are.
/r/MensRights11/09/16 04:03 AM
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Beside it is FEMINIST law. That doesn't make it bad. (Yeah right at 13 bragging about fucking your mom was a trauma) Read the article. This literally broke his family apart - two of his siblings had to move away and live with relatives because the abuse was so bad. That's either because you are not intelligent enough to get a simple analogy or because you are brainwashed completely into accepting this fake egalitarianism promoted by commies and feminists. Your point being that punishing anyone f…
/r/MensRights10/09/16 09:25 PM
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You're right. Typically these kinds of articles end with "but the judge retained jurisdiction to re-sentence her in 6 months if she behaves" or "with the last 24 years suspended", but it doesn't seem like there's any sort of catch here. Also, I think we should give credit to the author of this article. I kept waiting for them to talk about an inappropriate relationship, or how she seduced him, or something of that sort. But they treated it very respectfully I think, which is a nice surprise.
/r/MensRights10/09/16 06:40 PM
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I tend to agree with Democrat policies, and Clinton has expressed support for including women in selective service (which is a big deal for me), but her support for a sexist justice system has singlehandedly convinced me to vote against her.
/r/MensRights10/09/16 06:01 PM
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Apparently she has to serve at least half. I agree - it's nice to see one of these victims actually get justice. Kudos to Judge Bobby Lockhart and Assistant District Attorney Kelley Crisp for actually doing their jobs.
/r/MensRights10/09/16 05:29 PM
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Very well- written article, showing sympathy for the boy rather than his abuser, which is very rare in cases like this. Unfortunately this is in Australia which seems to have let feminism infiltrate it's justice system, so it's unlikely sell face any consequences for her crime. An interesting quote from a different article on the story: The mother initially denied the abuse when interviewed by police in 2015 before telling them "something that lasted five seconds can ruin my life forever", the p…
/r/MensRights09/09/16 05:00 PM
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She was charged with a whole host of felony sexual abuse and rape charges, all of which were dropped as part of the plea deal.
/r/MensRights09/09/16 02:47 PM
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In addition to the obvious fact that a girl who was an alleged victim of sexual abuse would likely not be charged as an adult, have her picture released, or held on such high bond for killing her abuser, it's just very sad that, if true, he felt the need to resort to this. I guess when every single time boys report this sort of thing the feminist justice system ignores their protection in favor of getting their rapists "the help they need", victims might start to feel that the justice system is …
/r/MensRights02/09/16 04:03 PM
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Yeah...if you're a woman who commits sexual assault it means you had "a lapse in judgement". If you're a man it means you're a monster.
/r/MensRights31/08/16 03:23 PM
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Keep in mind that this same judge also sentenced a woman who raped an 8 year old boy over 50 times to just a year in jail because she was "embarrassed" and apparently that was punishment enough. It's not because she was deaf, or pregnant, that she's avoiding jail. As for the need for someone to look after the baby...do you seriously believe that a man convicted for raping a 6 year old girl would be allowed to keep and raise his baby girl?
/r/MensRights23/08/16 03:34 PM
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Obviously 0. There is a chance that their sentences might be increased to a year or two, absolute best case. The core of the problem is that sex with a girl under 13 is automatically considered rape under UK law, but abusing a boy in the same way is not. Every time someone suggests changing this feminists throw a hissy fit and put a stop to it.
/r/MensRights23/08/16 03:20 PM
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A few months ago this happened with a female teacher in Australia again. All charges were dropped after prosecutors said it wasn't worth their time pursuing them. ("Not in the public interest to prosecute")
/r/MensRights23/08/16 03:17 PM
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Both, probably. IIRC in New Zealand it was perfectly legal for a woman to rape a boy of any age until like 2006.
/r/MensRights23/08/16 06:03 AM
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Yes, it can be appealed. The attorney general has done it for these kinds of cases before and has a pretty good record of getting at least some jail time. Phillip Davies (sp?), an MP, has been great about reporting these cases to the attorney general and obviously his word is taken more seriously than ours. You can also email him to draw his attention to this as well, especially if you're from the UK.
/r/MensRights20/08/16 12:06 AM
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Or read about this deaf man, who tried the "I would be isolated in prison" excuse too. Also in the UK. He got caught trying to have sex with a fake 13 year old girl, once. Guess what? He's still going to prison. http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/deaf-man-jailed-over-bid-to-meet-girl-13-in-sting-by-paedophile-hunters-11363996597823
/r/MensRights19/08/16 09:08 PM
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This is completely disgusting. Feminists have infiltrated the court systems and are using them to rape and oppress men and boys. Male football player has sexual contact, but no sex, with a 15 year old girl and gets 6 years in prison. Woman rapes 6 year old boy for years and years and gets no punishment. Feel free to report this for review as unduly lenient, especially if you're from the UK: https://www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review
/r/MensRights19/08/16 05:13 PM
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You bring up a really good point. Here would be my response to that, though. What I consider to be the heart of every single men's rights issue today is a general apathy towards the suffering of men and boys. It's why, everything else being equal, drunk drivers who hit and kill men receive significantly less prison time than those who hit and kill women. It's why boys who are sexually abused are ignored or joked at, while girls are protected. It's why men have to register for the draft but women…
/r/MensRights14/08/16 01:34 AM
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This whole article made me very angry and upset. I'm sure it took great courage for him to come forward like this, and for him to be treated like trash just to pander to his abuser because she's a woman now...it's honestly disgusting how hypocritical and callous the feminists calling for these policies can be.
/r/MensRights12/08/16 12:37 AM
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It's not, it's a serious felony with prison time. Prosecutors chose to drop those charges for whatever reason.
/r/MensRights10/08/16 09:13 PM
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Yup. The victim gets removed from his new siblings and family and her life goes on unchanged. I have a hard time imagining that, if her husband was caught molesting one of their daughters, the daughter would be removed from her family and the husband's life would be unaffected.
/r/MensRights10/08/16 09:12 PM
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Apparently, this judge thought even community service would be too hard on her because she was transgender. Basically treating sexual abuse of a boy as if it were jaywalking or shoplifting. I'll by emailing the attorney general calling this unduly lenient. He's changed many sentences like this in the past on appeal. If you'd like to as well the link is here: https://www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review
/r/MensRights02/08/16 03:08 PM
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Apparently they had a confession from her before deciding to offer the plea deal. Which would mean the only reason for offering it was the DA felt the rapist didn't deserve to go to jail.
/r/MensRights27/07/16 08:23 PM
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If you've seen me post here, you know that one issue I post a lot about is sexual abuse of boys, particularly by women, being treated like a joke. Clinton terrifies me because I'm afraid her push for "gender responsive sentencing" (read: sexist sentencing policies that benefit women) would reduce penalties for these women and make it even harder for boys to come forward and get justice. I'm going to put together a question on this and ask it at Trump's AMA tomorrow. If on some off-chance he answ…
/r/MensRights27/07/16 02:48 AM
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So despite the fact that he was not a danger to the public, they're giving him a jail sentence because “What is the significance of rape if a person doesn’t go to jail?”. My only issue with this is that, the next time this judge has a case before her of a woman who sexually assaulted a young boy, it will magically become "I don't see what good sending her to jail would do anyone" and she'll get a community order. Hypocrites of the worst variety.
/r/MensRights27/07/16 02:42 AM
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His punishment for being found innocent is worse than 99% of the punishments given to women found guilty of this.
/r/MensRights27/07/16 02:39 AM
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I have as well. Definitely worth it, especially as it seems to have been working at least a bit (the last few of these women have been getting jail terms, albeit very short ones, without the need for appeal). And in this case, at least, the boy's mother seems to agree with you: The mother said: “She took my son’s childhood away from him and destroyed his innocence. He’s terrified to go back to school after what has happened...Though we are glad Wright has been punished, myself and the other pare…
/r/MensRights21/07/16 05:26 AM
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That's the official phrase, I think. The attorney general Jeremy Wright has been very good about appealing these sentences in the past, although typically only when the sentence includes no jail time whatsoever. In case you (or anyone else) hasn't seen these before, some examples of this being successful: Karen Ackland (2014): ‘I am therefore pleased the Court of Appeal today imposed an immediate prison term on Ackland, which should reassure the public and send out a strong message to women that…
/r/MensRights21/07/16 02:27 AM
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He was punished more harshly for not being convicted of rape than Jade Hatt was for being convicted of sexually abusing an 11 year old boy. It's absolutely insane.
/r/MensRights20/07/16 04:05 AM
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The Senate voted in favor of drafting women, and the House voted against it. Interesting. It seems to me that the end result will be neither of these amendments is passed, and we're back at square one. Worst case is that this amendment passes, and we're actually further from equality here than we were before. It would make no difference in the NCFM lawsuit, but it would make it harder for any change to take place in a future year.
/r/MensRights08/07/16 04:44 AM
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Completely ignores the double standard in sentencing in these cases championed by feminists, but nonetheless a good article on this topic I think.
/r/MensRights06/07/16 08:25 PM
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They're not even trying to hide it anymore - prosecuting the rape of boys is apparently "not in the public interest".
/r/MensRights06/07/16 07:38 AM
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I do disagree. There has to be a balance. When you have rapists posting smiling selfies of themselves as they walk free from court titled "the happiest day of my life", something is very, very, wrong. Victims deserve to feel safe coming forward in knowing that they will be protected and their rapists punished. There also needs to be enough punishment to deter future offending. I don't see how you can disagree on these two points. Preventing rape and making victims feel safe also serves the commu…
/r/MensRights01/07/16 07:27 AM
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So she raped a 13 year old boy and then shot him in the back while he slept, and was given probation...I don't think I even have to say it, but there is absolutely a 0% chance of a man raping a 13 year old girl, then shooting her as she slept, and not going to prison. Clearly, she's a violent sexual predator. The judge knew this when sentencing her. If she'd been in prison where she belonged, her husband would still be alive. I guess a man's life is less important than giving a female child rapi…
/r/MensRights01/07/16 06:24 AM
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I have made a mistake. I have never raped a child 28 times. All I'm saying is she should be punished somehow. As it stands, she gets to go out with her friends partying tonight without a care in the world, while her victim sits home wondering why no one cares about him. That's not justice. There's also the question of deterrent. Female teachers continue to rape students because they know that there really won't be any consequences if they get caught. Again, as it is, she is not receiving any pun…
/r/MensRights01/07/16 06:13 AM
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Eh, it's not nearly as bad for a woman as it is for a man. Places are far less likely to judge you for being a sex offender as a woman, and so you're basically free to take any job you want (with the exception of working with children). When they see a male sex offender, they see a monster. When they see a female sex offender, they see a poor girl who just made a mistake and needs help getting back on her feet. Not to mention, she's only a sex offender for 20 years. A man would be spending at le…
/r/MensRights01/07/16 03:23 AM
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I personally agree with this. 28 counts of molestation against a middle schooler and you think probation is appropriate? Hell, you get more time for drugs... It's sad to realize how little boys are valued by our society. Although I suppose at least it's good to know where we stand.
/r/MensRights01/07/16 02:46 AM
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They only go through if she breaks the law again. They also typically aren't fully executed for petty crimes, so unless she molests another child in the next few years she's probably good to go.
/r/MensRights29/06/16 03:03 PM
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It's one thing for feminists not to be outraged. It's another thing entirely for them to CAUSE these sentences by arguing for "gender responsive justice systems" and the like.
/r/MensRights29/06/16 03:01 PM
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Suspended also doesn't mean she serves it in 3 years. It means if she's good for 3 years she won't go to jail at all.
/r/MensRights29/06/16 06:33 AM
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I thought the house introduced a similar bill what happened there? It's complicated. The House and Senate each make up their own version of the NDAA (the annual bill which authorizes defense spending for the next year). Then the House and Senate Armed Services Committees meet behind closed doors and reconcile the two bills into a single bill. Then it goes through the House and Senate again for another vote, and after that it goes to the Obama's desk (following the annual timeline this will happe…
/r/MensRights16/06/16 03:45 AM
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It's even trickier than that. The House has their own version, which originally had the same clause, but it was removed due to a stupid trick by one person with a lot of power. Later in the summer, select members of the Senate and House Armed Services Committees will meet behind closed doors to hammer out a final version of the bill, which may or may not contain that language. This may be tough, since the opponents of drafting women probably feel much more strongly about it than those who suppor…
/r/MensRights16/06/16 03:40 AM
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The house blocked it, but they blocked it because of other parts of the bill it was included on. Actually this isn't true. The House passed the NDAA, but the rules committee intentionally removed the requirement for women to register for selective service specifically because they didn't want that to happen before it even got to the House floor for a full vote. Pete Sessions, the chair of the rules committee, used a trick to basically remove the language from the bill without ever having a vote …
/r/MensRights16/06/16 03:36 AM
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The vote of 85 to 13 means very little given that the vote itself was basically on the bill that funds the army for the next year. They didn't get a chance to vote individually on this one tiny issue.
/r/MensRights16/06/16 03:35 AM
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She didn't commit before because she wanted to wait to see what the "right" answer was, I think.
/r/MensRights15/06/16 09:10 PM
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Unfortunately, the provision on women in selective service was stripped from the House version of the bill so it will have to be resolved behind closed doors in talks later this summer, but this is still progress. Either way it should help the NCFMs court case, I think.
/r/MensRights14/06/16 04:39 PM
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Yeah, I think one of the other female nurses faced similarly serious charges for sex abuse against boys as well. She was sentenced to 20 years in prison but, of course, released after serving less than a year of her sentence because she "responded well to treatment" (source). Funny how no one ever lets male rapists out after serving less than 5% of their sentence for rape if they respond well to treatment.
/r/MensRights08/06/16 03:53 AM
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This is an update to this post I made from a few months ago. Basically as the title states she had drugged and sexually abused at least 4 boys in the juvenile detention where she worked, and along with a number of other female staff members colluded to keep the abuse secret, keep watch for each other, etc. She was originally facing life in prison on serious sex abuse charges but the prosecutors offered her a plea deal to drop all sex charges in exchange for pleading guilty to standard assault, w…
/r/MensRights08/06/16 03:16 AM
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As someone who typically gets furious about this type of thing, I do believe that it's possible the roles being reversed could have had the same outcome (in the UK at least), if only because 20 and 15 are relatively close in age. There definitely would be no excuses about how tough her life was though, and the article wouldn't paint her out to be the victim. Also, it's extremely likely the word "groomed" would have been used instead of "seduced".
/r/MensRights08/06/16 02:51 AM
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What's worse, she is charged with "continuous sexual abuse of a child", a more serious form of statutory rape that specifies the victim was younger than 14 and the abuse lasted for more than 30 days. If convicted the penalty is a minimum of 25 years in prison and a maximum of life. Of course, she will get a plea deal that drops that particular charge in exchange for probation or maybe a token jail sentence of 30 days or so.
/r/MensRights04/06/16 05:31 PM
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Salon also has an article about this case called "Don't romanticize sex crimes against boys - it's still abuse if the abuser is female". I'm not sure there's an "angle".
/r/MensRights04/06/16 03:49 PM
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How about "accused of continuous sexual abuse of a child", since that is the crime she's accused of? She's not accused of a "relationship", legally speaking, yet they all call it that.
/r/MensRights04/06/16 03:38 PM
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Does it explain anywhere why no charges were filed?
/r/MensRights04/06/16 05:47 AM
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This makes me furious.
/r/MensRights04/06/16 05:06 AM
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I don't know if you've read this article, but it seems relevant to what you're talking about: Dion said positive attention to a male victim who has had sexual encounters with a teacher on social media or in conversation can minimize what the male victim actually experienced. He said often times young boys see images or comments on social media that indicate a male victim should be proud for having sexual relations with a teacher When representing victims in cases involving sexual crimes, Dion sa…
/r/MensRights28/05/16 05:33 PM
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Kennedy v. Louisiana, 554 U.S. 407 (2008), was a landmark decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that held that the Eighth Amendment's Cruel and Unusual Punishments Clause did not permit a state to punish the crime of rape of a child with the death penalty; more broadly, the power of the state to impose the death penalty against an individual for committing a crime that did not result in the death of the victim is now limited to crimes against the state (e.g., espionage, treason). ht…
/r/MensRights28/05/16 05:04 PM
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It might carry the death penalty by statute, but the US Supreme Court ruled that sentencing someone to death for rape, even child rape, is cruel and unusual punishment and so it can never actually be applied. The death penalty is only allowed for murder and crimes against the state (i.e. treason)
/r/MensRights28/05/16 01:32 PM
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This is about her pleading guilty, but the older articles are here: This is where they talk about the students and parents supporting them, and where the quote I put in the title comes from: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Murrieta-Teacher-Pleads-Not-Guilty-to-Accusations-of-Sexual-Relationship-with-Student--367028971.html This is where one of the victims and his parents talk about the double standard he faced because of his gender: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Teens-Family-Ca…
/r/MensRights27/05/16 03:18 PM
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Where are all the women fighting for equal car insurance payments? Where are the women fighting to sign up for the draft when they turn 18? There were a lot of them. Almost all the democrats and a lot of the Republican women too in Congress. It would have happened this fall too if it weren't for fucking Pete Sessions.
/r/MensRights23/05/16 09:25 PM
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I just went to /r/all. We're on like the fifth page behind dozens of "glory to Trump" posts. But I guess complaining about sexual harassment being ignored is just the embodiment of Satan, huh?
/r/MensRights23/05/16 05:56 PM
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What's even more ridiculous is that there were 3 allegations from students, who are presumably minors, which should make this even more serious. When she inevitably ends up getting arrested for touching some kid innapropriately or sleeping with them I hope they sue on Title IX grounds and win big. I don't know how something could be a more hostile environment than this.
/r/MensRights23/05/16 03:21 PM
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Yet these same feminists argue that when women rape little boys even a single day in jail is too harsh and they just need understanding and therapy.
/r/MensRights22/05/16 10:08 PM
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Exactly. Hopefully the fact that this paper is publishing a letter to the editor directly exposing their own biases will mean they'll make sure they're being consistent and fair the next time they're writing an article about this sort of thing. I'm not holding my breath though.
/r/MensRights22/05/16 04:46 AM
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I don't know, I'm not even sure if that was real. The comment is gone now, someone probably told her that blaming your victim on social media the day you plead guilty to raping him is probably not the best bet. But still, if a grown man molested a 14 year old girl and then she proceeded to molest a 3 year old boy, it's hard to imagine a situation where the girl goes to prison but the man doesn't.
/r/MensRights22/05/16 01:54 AM
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Correction: She didn't receive ANY sentence. It's not going back behind bars because she never was behind bars. There was a post from her on the Facebook article for this story that apparently got deleted where she blames him for coming on to her, and even says he's in jail now for molesting a 3 year old relative. I'm not sure how true that is, but if so it's very sad. He gets thrown in jail for basically doing the same thing that happened to him, while his abuser gets away with it, showing no r…
/r/MensRights22/05/16 01:39 AM
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Nice to see too, although a bit unrealistic. Women don't go to jail for rape, they just get probation or community service.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 10:50 PM
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He didn't say a strict vetting process, he straight-up said ban Muslims altogether, whether from the UK or Syria or wherever.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 08:57 PM
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There is no good choice in a Trump v. Clinton matchup. Here's what I'm considering: As far as Clinton goes, here are the negatives I see: Her quote on men not being the real victims of war shows how little concern she has for men and the issues they face Despite being something of a war-hawk, she doesn't see what's wrong with male only selective service and clearly wants an army of male slaves at her disposal. This is a bad combination As secretary of state she has seriously undermined efforts t…
/r/MensRights21/05/16 05:20 PM
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Another example of how little our society values boys and how toxic Hillary Clinton's "gender responsive justice system" really is.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 04:52 PM
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Hm, maybe you're right. The article states the boy was living with his father for a while when the mother was being treated for her mental illness, then CPS gave him back to the mother and he was killed. The report says they did that when they clearly should have known she was a danger (presumably they did it because she was the mother) and now the father is suing.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 03:44 PM
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Even then, they can't call for a retrial if they think the person is guilty but the verdict was not guilty. Retrials are only available if the person was found guilty but a judge has reason to believe the trial was faulty for some reason and should be done again. From Wikipedia: In the United States, if a defendant is acquitted of a crime, the Fifth Amendment generally prohibits a retrial; thus, with few exceptions,[1][2] a retrial only can occur if the verdict in the first trial was "guilty," o…
/r/MensRights21/05/16 06:33 AM
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So, not really. For civil trials either side can appeal a jury verdict if they believe the jury made the wrong decision, and for a criminal trial the defendant can appeal if they feel the trial was unfair or new evidence of their innocence emerges. But constitutional protections guarantee a trial by a jury of your peers without the possibility of double jeopardy, which essentially means that once they read that not-guilty verdict you are treated as if you are not guilty. Even if new evidence eme…
/r/MensRights21/05/16 06:06 AM
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Does it mention who pressed charges first? Kind of wondering if it is some middle ground. Like maybe she offered and he accepted then she opened her mouth and showed rotting teeth and he withdrew consent and she got mad and pressed a rape charge for revenge and he did so as an ideal defense? Apparently as soon as it happened he ran to his brother and called the police. She insisted she was too drunk to remember what happened and, according to the prosecution, didn't claim to be the victim of rap…
/r/MensRights21/05/16 04:14 AM
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Based on this article.it was her lawyer Cale.not the accused Lee herself who made statements like these. Also it was not a direct declaration that these facts MUST make her the victim. The lawyer was crafty enough not to say that directly since it would sound more absurd. Instead she merely throws it out there to imply it. This is definitely true. Also you left out that Cale also included Lee's weight which was ten pounds heavier. Of course on a woman we tend to picture this as obesity or beer g…
/r/MensRights21/05/16 03:08 AM
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Well, she's on trial which just started today apparently. The charges of first degree kidnapping and first degree sexual assault apparently carry penalties of 20-99 years in prison (according to another article). The first degree means it's not statutory rape but forcible rape, which is why the penalty is so steep. She's also facing a second degree sex abuse charge which is the statutory rape charge and has a lesser penalty, and I suppose it's possible they'll convict her just on that one. Hopef…
/r/MensRights21/05/16 01:41 AM
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So the first thing to note is that she's not being charged with statutory rape, but with dragging him off his bike into the woods and forcibly raping him. And she could be facing serious punishment if she's convicted, which is good. It seems that more and more of the woman accused of this kind of crime are trying to use "I was really the victim" as an excuse though, which is pretty horrible because as if being raped wasn't enough, having to testify at a trial that you weren't actually the rapist…
/r/MensRights20/05/16 08:24 PM
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Three years in prison instead of one year home detention. That's a huge difference. Thank fucking god. Edit: didn't realize the original home detention had been replaced by jail time already. That makes more sense. Though how the courts can decide between home detention (basically getting off free) and jail time based only on whether a house is available I'll never know. Doesn't seem fair.
/r/MensRights19/05/16 02:53 PM
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Hillary Clinton's "gender responsive justice system" in action.
/r/MensRights18/05/16 11:54 PM
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What exactly is community control? As far as I know it basically means nothing. Registering as a sex offender is something but it's nowhere near as serious for a woman as it is for a man because people will look at you with sympathy rather than as a monster. Community service is not an appropriate sentence for sex abuse and is more like a slap in the face to the victim than anything. I don't necessarily believe that 20 years in prison is appropriate for anyone having sex with an 18 year old stud…
/r/MensRights18/05/16 11:22 PM
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If you're a woman taking responsibility is enough. No punishment needed. If you're a man you need serious punishment whether you took responsibility or not. Even worse, "allowing it to happen". She didn't cause it, she didn't actually do anything wrong, she just "allowed it to happen". Total removal of responsibility from the woman here.
/r/MensRights18/05/16 10:41 PM
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It's not necessarily pro-draft, it's whether or not they accept that equal protection applies to the draft. Scalia, for instance, had gone on record as stating that he does not believe that Constitution provides any guarantee of gender equality, and that "equal protection" applies only to race, so there's no doubt that he would have voted against this. At the same time, someone like Ginsburg would almost certainly vote in favor. But yeah, the fact that all the generals and both armed services co…
/r/MensRights18/05/16 12:01 AM
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It will likely depend on the 2016 elections. We already have Scalia's seat empty, and likely a few more will empty between now and when this inevitably reaches SCOTUS. If Clinton wins, I think it's likely the new justices will vote on our side. If Trump wins, I honestly have no idea.
/r/MensRights17/05/16 11:46 PM
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Meanwhile, Caroline Berriman who committed more serious sex acts with a 15 year old boy was given just 2 years in jail, specifically so she could get back to her child sooner.
/r/MensRights17/05/16 11:40 PM
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"Even teenage boys are vulnerable" is kind of a horrible way of putting it imo. Makes it seem like they're less vulnerable than everyone else. Also, this shows why so many of these women get plea deals for probation. If they take it to trial, they get the absolute minimum (sentencing range was 2-20 years), so no plea deal that includes any jail time will be worth it. Also, She warned the teen not to tell anyone about their relationship, saying she would kill herself if he did, prosecutors say. D…
/r/MensRights17/05/16 10:53 PM
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I know this idea pretty much got killed in the House, but it's nice to see that it has support in the Senate at least, even from the GOP.
/r/MensRights17/05/16 10:41 PM
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This is true, and I guess a court ruling would be much more powerful than a legislative change as well. That said, a court ruling would probably take years, and it's far from a sure thing either, especially if someone like Trump takes the White House. My worry is that, if the court rules against this, there will never be anything to push Congress to bring this up again and selective service will stay sexist for decades to come. I guess the best result here is that the NDAA at least maintains the…
/r/MensRights17/05/16 10:31 PM
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But if the courts decide the wrong way, then selective service of only men is likely here to stay for another 40 years, since no one will ever bring this up on their own.
/r/MensRights17/05/16 02:39 PM
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So they don't even get to vote on it? Pete Sessions can go fuck himself.
/r/MensRights17/05/16 02:38 PM
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There were a number. Some of which actually get rid of selective service. From what I understand they don't vote on individual amendments until tomorrow. But (to the best of my understanding) what happened was Sessions had made some kind of special exemption to automatically push his own amendment through. When they asked about general rules concerns the minority leader brought up a concern with it, saying something to the effect of "this amendment is plainly not allowed and you know damn well i…
/r/MensRights17/05/16 04:12 AM
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Just as a follow-up, I watched the rules committee meeting today. One of the Democrats challenged the selective service amendment on these grounds, and Pete Sessions pretty much said "you're completely right but I think it's the right thing to do anyway". He won the vote by like 9-2. So I guess it will be considered. I don't think it looks too good at the moment unfortunately.
/r/MensRights16/05/16 11:42 PM
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To be perfectly honest, while of course I really hope he doesn't get his amendment through, this is a completely bullshit reason not to be able to consider it: Last week, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) found that including women in the draft actually lowers government costs by reducing spending on Pell Grants. In order to a receive Pell Grant, a student must register for the Selective Service. CBO projected requiring women to sign up for the draft would save the government money because e…
/r/MensRights16/05/16 07:58 PM
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The House NDAA bill, which contains a provision requiring women to register for selective service, is being debated in the House this week. A number of amendments concerning that provision have been proposed. They are: Strikes Sec. 528, which requires selective service registration and conscription requirements for female residents of the United States between the ages of 18 and 26. Repeals the Military Selective Service Act. Strikes section 528 and insert a new section requiring the Department …
/r/MensRights15/05/16 10:14 PM
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Men convicted of raping children should be microchipped and castrated. Yet when women do the same, we're told that even a single night in prison is too harsh for them and we have to be understanding and loving and just give them therapy and help, and if we disagree we must be sexist.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 09:46 PM
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Awesome! This is great news. Hopefully the vote next week will go well, but either way I think the fact that both armed services committees, supposedly experts in this area, supported registering women will be useful if this comes to a court battle. If the experts all support registering women, it becomes clear that any opposition is a result of discrimination and sexism rather than actual military need. Edit: Cruz was so pissed about this, lol. Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX), who sits on the Armed Ser…
/r/MensRights13/05/16 02:19 AM
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Yeah. The amount of hoops they have to jump through to get this passed is just absurd. They're doing the Senate Armed Services Committee markup this week and then the full House vote next week, so hopefully we'll have good news in both of these, but who knows? But regardless, it will be interesting to hear what Sessions' argument is for exempting women, since that may become relevant in the event he's successful and this comes down to a court battle. In the Rostker decision they reference Congre…
/r/MensRights09/05/16 07:07 PM
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Maybe administrators at Harvard were reminded that Title IX exists and banning clubs for men but not for women would lead to tons of costly lawsuits.
/r/MensRights09/05/16 05:27 PM
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Any time the phrase "grown men" is used you know it's going to be followed by some sexist bullshit.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 06:02 PM
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They probably had no choice thanks to Title IX.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 05:59 PM
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The federal lawsuit was filed on behalf of the boy against Laramie County School District 1, Superintendent John Lyttle, school principal Chad Delbridge and others. The suit seeks unspecified compensation and punitive damages. I'm not too familiar with legal matters, but I THINK this means they are suing the district as well as the principle/superintendent individually.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 05:28 PM
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Except for women accused of sexual assault against boys, who should be told that as women they are entitled to a "gender responsive justice system" which means they are treated like the victim.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 03:40 PM
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You could be taken to trial, convicted, and fined $7000 http://news.obiaks.com/2015091447-+10-yr-old+boy+fined+$7k+for+having+sexual+affair+with+married+woman.html
/r/MensRights07/05/16 04:03 AM
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Lyttle and Delbridge became aware of the relationship in late 2012 after a number of teachers and staff at Freedom expressed concerns to Delbridge about Andersen and the boy, it said. Delbridge met with Andersen several times in the ensuing months, but he took no action against her and did not notify police or the boy's guardian of the situation. "The known inappropriate relationship between a teacher and her student made the risk of sexual assault and mental and emotional distress obvious," the…
/r/MensRights06/05/16 10:41 PM
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It doesn't say the driver's name but presumably he was an adult. That could be part of the reason as well. On top of that, they may have only had an interview with her family and not his. But yeah, not too often you see articles just touch a girl's death like that in passing without any remorse and then focus for paragraphs and paragraphs on the tragedy of a boy who died.
/r/MensRights06/05/16 10:29 PM
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They can, but a judge would have to authorize it. Unless it was a serious breach (ie sexually abusing another child), she would almost certainly just have her probation extended by a year or two, or maybe spend like 30 days in jail. Time and time again this is what we see. If it were a man, he'd be serving a prison term now, and then they'd look for any excuse to put him back in prison. Because people see men who hurt girls and want to punish them. But people feel bad punishing women and want to…
/r/MensRights06/05/16 02:16 AM
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Lucky she's not a man. If you're a man and have sex with a 16 year old student you get 60 years in prison, with mandatory 30 to be served before the possibility of parole. http://www.chron.com/news/article/Ex-teacher-in-West-Texas-gets-60-years-for-sex-7395055.php
/r/MensRights06/05/16 12:30 AM
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Because she's a woman who raped a young boy. Therefore she can't possibly be punished for her crimes.
/r/MensRights06/05/16 12:29 AM
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Can't stand Trump, but can't stand Clinton more. At least Trump won't go into "women are the primary victims of war" or legalize domestic violence against men or rape of young boys by instituting "gender responsive" sentencing.
/r/MensRights05/05/16 01:03 AM
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You can compare this just as well to Scottish men who abuse young girls. They still get long terms, there just weren't any high profile examples of it recently.
/r/MensRights05/05/16 12:59 AM
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They use political influence to control it. Demanding women's prisons be shut down, there be a cap on 100 total female prisoners regardless of what crimes have been committed, etc. The theory is that the justice system is designed to help and rehabilitate women, but to punish men. For instance Adam Johnson was hardly a threat to the public, he was sentenced to prison to act as a deterrent and give justice to the victim. When it comes to women, those concerns are ignored, because the justice syst…
/r/MensRights04/05/16 09:29 PM
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I know this has been posted here already, but the comparison one of the victim's moms made to Adam Johnson I think is very relevant. When you have feminists in charge of the justice system who manipulate it to benefit women and punish men, this is the result. The upside of the Adam Johnson sentence is it was so high-profile that now people have a direct comparison to make when they see all these women getting away with it, and realize that female rapists are being protected solely on the basis o…
/r/MensRights04/05/16 08:15 PM
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Your claim "everyone does this". These days it it accepted that the Irish count as people. As countries become more liberal and focus more on feminism and women's rights, it gets worse and worse. They slowly strip the rights of protection from men and boys until their rape, abuse, etc, is de facto legal. Did you just try and compare a case where someone plead guilty at the first opportunity and got rather a lot of mitigation through quite frankly being an idiot (although more formal terms were u…
/r/MensRights04/05/16 05:21 PM
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I fucking hate the "we'll register for the draft when we get equal pay argument". Can't we just say "we'll give you equal pay when you register for the draft"? Even when the pay gap is completely gone, feminists will never admit it, because they need it to perpetuate their victimhood status and avoid facing true equality.
/r/MensRights04/05/16 03:50 PM
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Nope. DUP are still part of the goverment of Northern Ireland (one of the reasons abortion is illegal there). Not talking about northern ireland. I mentioned Scotland and (increasingly) England/Wales, where this type of practice is common. In Scotland I suspect it has more to do with the cost of a new prison than anything else. The prison was already built. They turned it into a men's prison after women's rights groups protested, if I remember right. In England and Wales the focus is on reducing…
/r/MensRights04/05/16 03:43 PM
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But remember, Hillary Clinton says we need gender responsive sentencing. What that means is this man deserves 20 years in prison for daring to lay a hand on a precious young girl, but a woman who does the same thing to a boy just needs therapy and help because she was emotionally vulnerable.
/r/MensRights04/05/16 03:31 PM
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I don't care about political parties, everyone does this under pressure from women's rights groups and feminists. Throw male victims of domestic violence, little boys who have been raped, etc, under the bus in exchange for votes. It's disgusting. The community based locations are fine, except that there are less of them overall which means it will be even harder for male victims to get any sort of justice. While a man who even looks at a woman or girl the wrong way will still be going straight t…
/r/MensRights04/05/16 03:29 PM
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They're also tearing down the old prison in Scotland and replacing it with a few community-based locations for the most dangerous offenders and non-custodial sentences for everyone else. While you know that men who hurt women or girls will still be locked up even if they're not a danger because the victims need "justice". Which doesn't matter I guess if a man or boy is the victim.
/r/MensRights04/05/16 01:56 PM
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Scotland has already implemented this policy. I have no doubt the rest of the UK will soon too.
/r/MensRights04/05/16 01:26 PM
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You can thank Scottish feminists and their "gender responsive" justice system and "jail is only for men" philosophy. It's a miracle she faced any punishment at all, really.
/r/MensRights04/05/16 01:23 PM
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It's not always the judges that are biased though, but the system. Countries like Scotland have sentencing guidelines influenced by women's rights activists that say women should be spared a custodial sentence whenever possible because of their gender. So these judges are just following the law when they let women rape boys and walk free. Just like they're following the law when they send men who do the same to girls to prison. The law written by feminists and women's rights activists for the pu…
/r/MensRights03/05/16 03:56 PM
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If you read the article what she did is seriously sick...pressuring these kids into sex to the point that one pushed her off and ran from the house halfway through. If they were girls that would most likely have been called "rape". Two years seems like a very light sentence. The judge seems almost reluctant to jail her, and his words make it seem like if there was any other option he would be going with that. Then again, this is in Scotland, where they've all but closed down the women's prisons,…
/r/MensRights03/05/16 03:28 PM
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Because she got a plea deal to drop all sex offenses in exchange for pleading guilty to what basically amounts to "endangering the welfare of a minor". I don't think she has to register as a sex offender either. It doesn't matter how long the minimum punishments are. The system will always exempt women from them somehow.
/r/MensRights03/05/16 02:00 PM
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Because she's a woman obviously. It wouldn't have mattered if she was forcing herself on a 12 year old boy who was backed into a corner and trying to scream for help (this has happened before). She still wouldn't be going to jail. You can thank feminists like Hillary Clinton and their "gender responsive" criminal justice system for that.
/r/MensRights03/05/16 03:00 AM
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Meanwhile, if you're a woman, you can purposefully fill your home with carbon monoxide to try and kill your children, be convicted of attempted murder, and still face no penalty whatsoever.
/r/MensRights03/05/16 02:19 AM
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These are the go-to example of how horribly our justice system fails male victims. One of these woman, I think it was Shelley Dufresne, got a plea deal to avoid spending a single day in jail or registering as a sex offender. As she walked free from court after pleading guilty, she took a selfie of herself grinning and posted it online talking about how it was the best day of her life or something similar. When you have a justice system that leaves the victims broken and upset while the abuser fe…
/r/MensRights03/05/16 02:05 AM
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I remember one of the cases, I think it was from Australia, where the women had told her victim not to tell anyone because it would be "frowned upon". I think that's a good summary of how this is treated. Not illegal, not disgusting, not horrible, but "frowned upon". Like jaywalking, or going into the supermarket without a shirt, or going 5 mph over the speed limit. Something you shouldn't really be doing, but it's no big deal if you do. And the fact that these predators see it that way is exact…
/r/MensRights03/05/16 02:01 AM
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That's good. One more question...does someone have to bring up the amendment at the Senate Armed Services Committee for it to be considered? Clearly, the move had a lot of support in the House Committee, but none of those who supported it seemed willing to bring it up themselves. If it hadn't been for the sarcastic asshole with his "Draft America's Daughters Act" that he himself voted against, it would never have even been brought up, there would have been no vote, and it wouldn't have mattered …
/r/MensRights30/04/16 01:21 AM
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That is good news. So, the House Armed Services Committee has passed it, the Senate Armed Services Committee is looking likely to pass it, and I doubt very much Obama would veto the whole bill over this amendment. So then what's left is the votes in the full house and senate. Are these something that might be a problem? It seems to me like most of the Republicans swayed over have been women with military experience, who are likely overrepresented in the armed services committees as opposed to co…
/r/MensRights29/04/16 07:05 PM
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This could be important because she is on the Senate Armed Services Committee, which presumably will review the amendment passed by the House Armed Services Committee Wednesday requiring women to register. The House vote was very close, 32-30, with all Democrats but one supporting the measure and only 5 Republicans joining them. So the fact that she is a republican supporting this might be even more important. Then there's this. Sen. Deb Fischer, R-Neb., also a member of the committee, reserved …
/r/MensRights29/04/16 02:57 PM
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I could be wrong about this, but it would be fiscal year 2017, which starts in October or so. If it's not passed by then it's unlikely to be proposed again next year without the push of allowing women in combat to open the conversation. If that happens we'd have to wait on the court cases, and who knows how many years that will take.
/r/MensRights28/04/16 07:37 PM
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From what I understand, it would make them register. It has to be approved by the Senate Armed Services Committee next. If it does, it will be added as an amendment to the defense authorization 2017 bill, which essentially approves military funding for 2017. Once that's done it has to be voted on in the full congress, but because it is also needed to fund the military it has almost no chance of being struck down. So this is very possible to happen. It just has to make it through the Senate Armed…
/r/MensRights28/04/16 07:00 PM
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I posted the news article on this last night but it's also interesting to be able to watch the ~20 minutes of debate and voting that took place.
/r/MensRights28/04/16 03:42 PM
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Do you have a source on that? I've read that different levels of punishment don't make a difference (ie life in prison vs 15 years), and that makes sense to me. But the difference between knowing you will have your name broadcast all over the news, lose your job and all your friends, and then spend a few years locked in a box vs. being granted anonymity, taken aside and given a warning, is absolutely huge. The last women in Australia to be spared jail for molesting a young boy told him not to te…
/r/MensRights28/04/16 03:19 PM
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Well, the president never had the authority to do it, and they can't stop the Supreme Court from finding something unconstitutional, so I don't see how cirumstances changed on that front. And it seems that if this makes it through the Senate committee it's basically passed (since it is an amendment to the defense authorization bill which always gets passed). I believe the Senate committee looks at it in a few weeks.
/r/MensRights28/04/16 01:07 PM
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Most justice systems also take into account the need for deterrence and for the offender to accept responsibility for the action, and even justice for the victim, at least if the perpetrator is a man. When it's female perpetrators we literally have young boys who were raped forced to watch these women admit to raping them, then take a grinning selfie as they walk free from court and post it online with a caption saying this was the happiest day of their life. Imagine being a child who was raped …
/r/MensRights28/04/16 05:05 AM
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"I think that if women are registered for service … I think it will help to send a message to my two daughters that they’ve got obligations to this great country as well as boys do,” said Obama in a debate last year. From 2008. Let's see if he still stands by that.
/r/MensRights28/04/16 02:35 AM
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Yeah, it seems like this is a huge step in the right direction. Although the numbers in the two articles you linked don't match up, so some journalist screwed up. The first one says the vote was 32-20, which is pretty strong, while the second says it was 32-30, which is barely sliding through. Since you always seem to be familiar with the process here, do you mind clarifying what comes next? The article suggests that it will have to go through the Senate Armed Services committee next, but what w…
/r/MensRights28/04/16 02:32 AM
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So that moron who introduced the sarcastic "Draft our Daughters" act to sabotage efforts to get women to register just had his plan backfire spectacularly....he voted against his own bill, but it still passed! As for what's next... Senate lawmakers must sign off on the draft review and changes before they can be sent to the president to become law. The authorization bill isn’t expected to be finalized by Congress until this fall. Who knows if this will happen, but this is a huge step forwards.
/r/MensRights28/04/16 01:07 AM
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Sue. We have a constitution that guarantees equal protection under the law. A while back I remember there was a program in California designed to allow prisoners to serve their sentences in the community rather than prisons, but the application was restricted to women only. A judge ruled it unconstitutional on the grounds that the right to freedom is the most fundamental of all rights and cannot be applied in a discriminatory way. I'm not saying making prisons more family friendly is a bad thing…
/r/MensRights27/04/16 09:26 PM
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Oh, that makes sense. I'd try to make that a bit clearer. But overall great work!
/r/MensRights27/04/16 09:05 PM
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I don't know why you're getting downvoted, I thought this was really great. The only complaint I would have is that the setting seems to be having a bit of an identity crisis. This whole "talk about war on the pavilion with the men" thing, combined with what seems to be a single group of men deciding the entire war, in addition to the name choices, make this seem like a medieval fantasy setting. I was totally jarred when you mentioned guns and modern weapons towards the end.
/r/MensRights27/04/16 08:51 PM
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I don't know. I think we can understand what may have caused him to do this without saying it's his mother's fault. If we do that we're no better than the feminists who look at a woman who rapes 12 year old boys and place the blame on her husband for not satisfying her emotional needs.
/r/MensRights27/04/16 08:07 PM
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I post this not as an attack on transgender rights, but because it's utter bullshit for them to argue that forcing transgender women to be conscripted is discrimination, but forcing men to be conscripted is perfectly okay. They give her shelter because the thought of a woman being punished like a man is so heinous as to be unthinkable, but they would deport a man to face that exact same punishment without a second thought. The fact that the UK court has argued that "being punished like a man" is…
/r/MensRights27/04/16 07:32 PM
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So talking about ending racial disparities in sentencing while supporting gender disparities in sentencing. Typical feminist stance.
/r/MensRights27/04/16 04:11 PM
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What's also interesting is the article's headline doesn't mention the victim's gender, and there are absolutely zero comments on the Facebook page laughing this off...every single one is horrified and cursing the judge and talking about how the "poor girl didn't get any justice" because obviously the victim would just be a girl right?
/r/MensRights26/04/16 05:11 PM
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It's definitely still discrimination imo. If the husband had been charged with the same crime against a 15 year old girl and her with failure to report they'd likely both be in prison, but at the very least the husband would be. I'm not really talking about discrimination against male rapists but against male victims.
/r/MensRights26/04/16 03:54 PM
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And yet another one...the husband was arrested too but only for knowing about it and not stopping it, not actually taking part. It's sick that our society has basically declared this sort of behavior legal by refusal to punish it.
/r/MensRights26/04/16 03:30 PM
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A group of lawmakers are actually pushing this now. You can read about that here. It got referred to the Senate Armed Services Committee which announced Friday that they would be examining the possibility of eliminating the draft during their markup of the defense budget this week (source) There are also economic arguments against the draft written about here
/r/MensRights25/04/16 07:19 PM
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Obama is not running again. No, but Clinton is running, and she is portraying herself as basically Obama 2.0. Attacking Obama's policies is a great way to attack her (especially since everyone would know she supports women in combat roles and is a bit of a war-hawk). This issue is beyond those games. I don't know. With the divided country we have and the majority vote in SCOTUS hanging in the balance, this election is massively important. That compared to a completely symbolic issue? If McCain t…
/r/MensRights24/04/16 11:58 PM
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I actually thought they might, still think they might (the headline suggests they're killing it but the article mentions they're also thinking about reforming or replacing it). John Mccain is a Republican and the chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee, which will be largely responsible for making the decision. He was pretty opposed to allowing women in combat roles, but after the decision was made was vocal about his opinion that it meant there was no excuse not to register women. In fact,…
/r/MensRights24/04/16 10:54 PM
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I couldn't figure out what that meant. The current law is that those convicted of sexual offenses have to serve 85% of their term I believe. So what they're saying there is that this doesn't apply here because she was convicted before that became law. I'm not sure what proportion of her term she will actually have to serve though. It wasn't clear.
/r/MensRights24/04/16 06:24 PM
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So the Armed Services Committee has confirmed that it will be examining the viability of selective service and possible "alternatives" as part of their meeting on the defense authorization bill this Thursday. This comes only a few months after military leaders testified before the committee that they believed it was time for women to register as well as men. I'm excited for this and hope they decide to end registration altogether (or expand it to women, although I'd prefer just eliminating it). …
/r/MensRights24/04/16 06:14 PM
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I thought I'd share this because it was nice to finally see one of these stories where the woman actually gets punished. I also thought it was great that the newspaper consistently referred to it as "rape", rather than an "inappropriate relationship" or any of the other terms usually used to downplay the seriousness of the offense. I also think the fact that the victim came forward on his own years later is good to show how serious this sort of thing can be for boys as well as girls. Typically p…
/r/MensRights24/04/16 05:01 PM
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Michael M. v. Superior Court of Sonoma County, 450 U.S. 464 (1981), was a United States Supreme Court case over the issue of gender bias in statutory rape laws. The petitioner argued that the statutory rape law discriminated based on gender and was unconstitutional. The court ruled otherwise. Sexual intercourse entails a higher risk for women than men. Thus, the court found the law just in targeting men as the only possible perpetrators of statutory rape https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_M._…
/r/MensRights23/04/16 07:34 PM
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No, it was on TV as I was reading this thread, so tonight's episode I guess.
/r/MensRights23/04/16 05:42 AM
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Megyn Kelly was just talking about this on her show, and interviewing a male student who was kicked off campus for an alleged rape (apparently the girl never reported him and repeatedly told the campus the sex was consensual during the investigation, but it didn't matter to them). This was never an issue I felt terribly strongly about but I was shocked to see it get any mainstream news coverage, even if only from Fox News. She was completely supportive of the male student too.
/r/MensRights23/04/16 01:51 AM
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Washington Warlord: Hillary Clinton's Child Soldiers Another example of how little Hillary Clinton cares about protecting boys. She deliberately weakened legislation to allow providing aid to countries that exploit boys as child soldiers and were supposed to be blacklisted.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 08:02 PM
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I'm not sure if you are serious with this comment or not. Selective service is not a good thing, it's the American name for conscription. She's essentially arguing that women should have to register for conscription in case of war like men do.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 07:59 PM
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"Justice for victims" as long as they're women. When it's women raping little boys I guess no justice is needed.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 01:04 PM
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My understanding of this was the jury is more likely to buy some bullshit excuse like "he actually raped me" or "I didn't know his age" or "I'm mentally ill" from a woman, and defense attorneys know this makes prosecutors uneasy so they have more leverage. On top of this, judges are more likely to give a woman a lenient sentence even if she goes to trial. If a man is charged with raping a 10 year old girl he knows that if convicted he's likely to get the max 25 years or whatever, so he will happ…
/r/MensRights22/04/16 01:32 AM
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The last two, definitely. If I'm remembering right a few months ago there was this grown woman who pretended to be 15 to groom and rape multiple 10 year old boys (which I'm hoping even you will agree is wrong) and she got let off with a community sentence. Stealing almost certainly. I'll suppose we'll see about murder with how this trial goes. I wouldn't be shocked.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 01:22 AM
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Their names are right there on the site, so it's not quite anonymity. Apparently all online news articles have been ordered to disable comments on any articles relating to them though, because if there are too many negative comments it might "taint the jury" and they won't be able to be convicted. That's a luxury I've never seen a man get.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 01:21 AM
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This is great news!
/r/MensRights22/04/16 01:19 AM
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More boys need to start doing this. There are so many things teachers/schools do to humiliate and embarrass boys on account of gender that they only get away with because no one complains.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 12:24 AM
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I don' think it's too unlikely that this would still have been national news if it had been a boy, personally.
/r/MensRights21/04/16 11:28 PM
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I'm pretty surprised by that actually. I thought it was a very well known video around here. Definitely something everyone should see though because it's so powerful.
/r/MensRights21/04/16 11:25 PM
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I think that the reason for most of this discrimination is that women form an organized voting block, while men do not. Because women tend to vote, together, over women's issues, it gets more attention. Until it changes so that politicians who defund prostate cancer research face the same organized backlash from men as they would get from women for defunding breast cancer research, this will continue.
/r/MensRights21/04/16 10:43 PM
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I'm sure they're just shaking in their boots thinking about all the community service they are going to have to do.
/r/MensRights21/04/16 07:18 PM
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It wouldn't matter what we wanted, because no one would believe that she beat him, and even if they did, he would be told that "as a man it's your responsibility never to hit a woman and just restrain her" and he'd be sitting in a jail cell. You're right that maybe this case isn't the worst one. But it's just so frustrating at these repeated verdicts which basically say that men and boys are the property of women to do with as they please and the law will not intervene. Just earlier today two Au…
/r/MensRights21/04/16 06:59 PM
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Original article I don't even know what to say about this.
/r/MensRights21/04/16 02:52 PM
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This is a great article from some prosecutors and police officers talking about how double standards do exist in the way women who rape boys are treated when compared to men who rape girls. It's a good source for people who try to argue that there is no double standard or everyone is treated equally.
/r/MensRights21/04/16 01:21 PM
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The judge ruled that with time already served her remaining jail sentence will equal 193 days. So at least that's a little bit. Whether it's sufficient or not is another story entirely but it's already more than I would have expected.
/r/MensRights21/04/16 04:43 AM
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Taylor, Thompson handed prison sentences... Nope, not what I expected at all to be honest.
/r/MensRights21/04/16 04:24 AM
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What does this "needs prison" mean? How does anyone "need prison"? It's a load of bullshit, if you ask me. I somehow guess that if the boyfriend had killed her during this domestic incident whether he personally "needed prison" would be irrelevant and he would get prison anyway because she needed justice. We see the same pattern again and again - when a man hurts a woman, the needs of the victim are most important in punishment. When a woman hurts a man, the needs of the attacker are more import…
/r/MensRights21/04/16 01:45 AM
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Someone should post the petition from a few days back to make rape gender neutral in the UK on that daily mail link. Seems relevant.
/r/MensRights20/04/16 08:12 PM
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That's true I tried as well. It's on the UK and Eire database for crimes against children, a Facebook page, and there's a petition with over 20k signatures in only a day or so, but no news article. Very weird.
/r/MensRights19/04/16 11:10 PM
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He was treated by the courts, with hindsight, somewhat leniently but things have changed. Now there is condign punishment in cases of this nature, in accordance with the guidelines." Wishing the child good luck, Judge Durham Hall assured her: "Things have changed." Oh god. And on the same fucking day, too.
/r/MensRights19/04/16 09:26 PM
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I don't even know what to say about this. In the UK soccer players have sex with 15 year old girls get 6 years in jail (which is fine with me), but women rape and torture babies and walk free with zero consequences.
/r/MensRights19/04/16 08:03 PM
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I agree. The NCFM lawsuit against selective service is a great example of this, but unfortunately the only one I can think of. We need more of that...it brings attention to these issues, if nothing else. There are certainly plenty of equal protection challenges we could bring before the courts, many of which could probably be taken all the way to SCOTUS...I think it would be great to have some people dedicated to actually doing this.
/r/MensRights16/04/16 04:32 PM
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This article doesn't mention the previous case but it's very clearly the same person described here
/r/MensRights15/04/16 04:18 PM
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Germaine Greer is also a pedophile who thinks it should be legal for women to molest young boys. I can't stand her.
/r/MensRights12/04/16 01:45 PM
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IIRC one of the women at one point definitely thought something to the effect of "this wouldn't be so funny if it were the other way around" and then just glossed over it. I don't really mind this scene because it was very clearly meant to be a bit disturbing and not actually seen by readers as a joke, even if some characters perceive it that way. I stopped reading the books though just because they were so boring.
/r/MensRights12/04/16 12:57 AM
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Sort of. I totally get that it's very complicated, so thanks for explaining it as best as you can.
/r/MensRights11/04/16 12:14 AM
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Didn't just suggest it, they're actually doing it (or a variant of it). Single, straight males are not permitted as refugees because they're "dangerous" and "not vulnerable".
/r/MensRights10/04/16 11:28 PM
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It's always eye-opening to make the comparison between Muslims and men. If people made a new ride-sharing service that excluded Muslims on the basis of terrorism, they'd be racists. Exclude men on the basis of rape, you're totally fine. Trump suggests banning Muslim refugees? Racist. Canadian PM suggests banning male refugees? Liberal hero.
/r/MensRights10/04/16 10:35 PM
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So, if I understand correctly, discrimination is legal where it is necessary (up to some level of scrutiny, depending on the type of discrimination) for some reason or another. You can't say "I'm going to allow discrimination because it's fair to make up for past oppression", but you can say "I'm going to allow discrimination because it is necessary to increase diversity". Similarly, you couldn't say "we'll exempt women from the draft because it's only fair since they get paid less than men", bu…
/r/MensRights10/04/16 10:33 PM
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Do you have a source on this? As far as I know, the US Supreme Court has never held that any specific group may receive preferential treatment to compensate for years of oppression in any sense. In fact in the current affirmative action case they could NOT argue that affirmative action was legal because it helped make up for past oppression, they had to argue that it was necessary for a benefit to the school as a whole (namely, diversity). I read the wikipedia on the case and couldn't find anyth…
/r/MensRights10/04/16 07:41 PM
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He's 32, a grown adult, and seems to be just as into this as she is. This story is almost identical but a lot worse because the son was only 14 at the time. Of course all the articles are still looking for an excuse for her, though.
/r/MensRights10/04/16 07:31 PM
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Feminists tend to be pretty supportive but often don't realize the devastating effects their attempts to close down women's prisons can have on victims like this, I think.
/r/MensRights10/04/16 07:29 PM
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That's why we need to get it to 100k. 10k is for a form letter response, 100k gets a debate in Parliament which, while still probably won't change anything, is possible to draw more attention to the issue.
/r/MensRights09/04/16 04:55 PM
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Is this guy still an MP though? If so I think someone should let him know about this petition, he might be able to help somehow.
/r/MensRights09/04/16 04:12 PM
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I'm actually shocked. Congrats, and with months to go I'm hoping you can get to 100k too. It would have been a lot harder for them to justify letting Jade Hatt walk free if she had been charged with rape like she should have been. Plus then the way it gets reported changes ("babysitter charged with raping boy" vs "babysitter charged for having inappropriate relations with boy" is huge). I'm not expecting much in the way of real change, but just this is a huge success. I'm not from the UK but kee…
/r/MensRights09/04/16 03:23 PM
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Do you have a source for this?
/r/MensRights09/04/16 12:59 PM
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That's not a surprise. She could have drugged and raped a 12 year old, filmed the thing, then released the footage all over the Internet driving him to suicide and she still wouldn't see the inside of a jail. Because even when they do the exact same thing in the exact same circumstances, men are violent pigs while women are simply "vulnerable". Post revenge porn after your partner breaks up with you? If you're a man, that's male entitlement and you must be a pig. If you're a woman, the breakup m…
/r/MensRights09/04/16 02:13 AM
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I guess they haven't arrested her because her other 2 boys need a mother. They do not need her. She's clearly unstable and they need to be taken away from her ASAP before she hurts them too.
/r/MensRights08/04/16 09:18 PM
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Even worse when you consider the context...She got moved to the school in the first place because of suspicions of inappropriate behavior with students at her last school. Then she pursues sex with three underage students, gets caught, and has sex with one again while out on bail. Finally gets convicted and only two years in jail. A man who had sex once with a single underage girl would have gotten twice that. A man who did everything she did would be spending decades in jail.
/r/MensRights08/04/16 09:15 PM
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agree, completely.....fairnes and equal application of sentencing. so the million dollar question....why is it still an issue and a problem? My opinion on this is it's largely because we're fighting on two fronts - both against old men who think the boy should have loved it and it's not even wrong, and against liberal women's rights types who acknowledge it is sexual assault but may still think women should never go to jail. That makes the majority of the population on the woman's side. And give…
/r/MensRights08/04/16 04:31 AM
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See, I personally have no problems with seeking alternatives to custody, they just have to be sufficiently punitive to deter these kinds of offenses and give justice to the victim. Community service and house arrest are just not sufficient deterrents for sexual assault and are basically a slap in the face to the victims. Liberals tend to recognize this when girls are the victims and push for actual prison time, but as soon as boys are the victims they start wondering why house arrest isn't good …
/r/MensRights08/04/16 02:49 AM
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I don't know if they're completely meaningless. I posted this link the other day too but I mean look through the judge's comments on this case and it's pretty obvious she wouldn't be going to jail if it weren't for the mandatory minimum. The prosecutor insisted he would be seeking actual jail time though, so maybe he'd be willing to contest the sentence (although I don't know if it's his decision or made over his head, to be honest). It's not like there's no precedent in Canada for appealing the…
/r/MensRights08/04/16 12:42 AM
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Forgive my lack of knowledge about reddit, but don't you have to be a default subreddit to get to the front page?
/r/MensRights08/04/16 12:25 AM
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Reserving more space.
/r/MensRights08/04/16 12:23 AM
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Going to reply here to reserve more space for links later.
/r/MensRights08/04/16 12:23 AM
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To clarify this again - NZ does not have a sex offender registry. Although the starting sentence for her crime is many years in prison and the judge provided almost no reasons for making it house arrest.
/r/MensRights07/04/16 06:56 PM
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I don't see how this is likely to be a false allegation given that he's been convicted. But here's a question - he committed these sex offenses when he was 14, just a kid. He clearly hasn't done anything like that since and isn't likely to reoffend. Yet he's getting 10 years in jail. Meanwhile Jade Hatt, the babysitter who was 21 when she raped the 11 year old boy she was watching, avoids jail entirely because she wasn't likely to reoffend. Both, in theory, could be rehabilitated. Why does he st…
/r/MensRights07/04/16 02:51 PM
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Everyone has a mandatory minimum as of now. Judge basically said he would ignore it at her sentencing though because he didn't think it was legal. Which would be pretty likely to pave the way for a long legal battle trying to decide if he is right or not. Thing is the mandatory minimum doesn't really apply to men since they all get at least 1 year in jail for child sex abuse anyway. The women are the ones who always get to avoid jail, so it only really makes a difference for them. Doing away wit…
/r/MensRights07/04/16 02:35 PM
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And those two other kids...and the other kids at that other school before I got transferred...and then again with your son while out on bail after being caught the first time...this woman is a serial predator and that she's blaming anyone but herself is laughable. A 2 year prison sentence is a joke, she will go back to doing it again as soon as she gets out.
/r/MensRights07/04/16 06:22 AM
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And a media willing to report and agitate against it. This is so true. I hate to admit it, but the dailymail and the other British tabloids using every one of these stories as cheap clickbait is really great in that it at least draws attention to the issue in the UK. I mean, I really hate to admit it. With titles like "Schoolboy seduced by disgraced teaching assistant reveals they had sex 50 times - and she told him he had made her pregnant" (source) it's clear they're just using these stories a…
/r/MensRights07/04/16 06:14 AM
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What I want to know is why this website is making an article out of a year-old reddit post right now.
/r/MensRights07/04/16 03:52 AM
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I'm not surprised that this didn't stick. I've been following a similar series of appeals happening in England/Wales under the current attorney general. I have done this ever since I read an article where one of these women who pleaded guilty did so because she was promised by the crown that if she pleaded guilty she wouldn't go to jail. Another woman a few months later, who was later found innocent, was told that she was tempted to plead guilty despite not doing it because she was given the sam…
/r/MensRights07/04/16 03:47 AM
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A lot of feminists sort of passively support this. They agree that if men have to be drafted women should too, but aren't really going to actively pursue it. Terry O’Neill, president of the National Organization for Women, said that, although the organization does not believe in a draft, it supports equal treatment for women, meaning they should required to register. “We don’t think women should be exempt from the draft any more than they should be exempt from combat roles,” she said. http://www…
/r/MensRights07/04/16 03:35 AM
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Also, assuming for a second that his ludicrous opinions on transgender women are valid, how does this protect "children"? Seems to me it only protects girls. If men molesting children in bathrooms is such a huge problem, why has no one been concerned about men molesting boys all these years?
/r/MensRights07/04/16 03:28 AM
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Gorman said it was premature to say what sentence he would seek if Atwood finds Hood is criminally responsible, but he did say his recommendation would include jail time. From an old article...the prosecutor said he would seek jail time, so hopefully he still will, but it's absolutely insane that this is one of the first few sentences given to a women with Canada's new mandatory minimums for child sex assault (which are only a year, probably out much sooner) and ALREADY we're hearing about how i…
/r/MensRights06/04/16 08:56 PM
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That's for the second case which she hasn't plead guilty to yet though. My understanding is that she has to serve the full 8 in the one she's already been convicted of, although I could be wrong.
/r/MensRights06/04/16 12:10 PM
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From what I understand they didn't mean this happened when they were somewhere between these ages, they meant it started when she was 17 and he was 11 and ended when she was 19 and he was 13.
/r/MensRights06/04/16 12:08 PM
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University? It's a high school. He was 16 apparently.
/r/MensRights06/04/16 03:39 AM
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Not quite sure what your point is here.
/r/MensRights05/04/16 11:41 PM
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This is a very good point. It's important to let boys know that if they were abused they can report it and they will be taken seriously. Examples like this seem to show that this is working, which is great news.
/r/MensRights05/04/16 08:42 PM
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I would argue this isn't the most important result. The most important thing here is that the victim can feel he has received justice and that his abuser has been punished (and that the punishment is enough to deter future offenders). I feel that an 8 year sentence is probably sufficient for those purposes. Even if it's not quite what a man would have gotten (I'm not sure), it's certainly a "good sentence" I think. The issue is not that male pedophiles and child rapists aren't being treated fair…
/r/MensRights05/04/16 08:39 PM
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I agree that encouraging violence is disgusting. That said, society is institutionally biased towards allowing girls to abuse boys without facing consequences. People here are assuming that these girls were bullying that boy because they knew that society would permit them to. They knew that they could do it and not face any consequences. To stop this sort of thing from happening it needs to be made clear to girls that they do not have a right to hit or abuse boys without facing consequences. No…
/r/MensRights05/04/16 02:20 PM
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If you read the whole article it's a bit strange how religious this whole trial was, but the prosecutor seems to have handled it equally at least: Shires concluded that the law should be applied equally. “We have not done a good job of treating everyone equal, but we are getting better,” Shires said. “Close your eyes. I want to imagine it is not Vickers sitting up here. I want you to imagine it was the victim’s coach, and the victim is a cheerleader. When you are in that jury room, think about t…
/r/MensRights05/04/16 01:34 PM
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To be perfectly fair, the author of this article is batshit crazy. She's the same one who believes men are outdated and should be put in concentration camps or something, isn't she?
/r/MensRights05/04/16 05:16 AM
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It's America. She was only going to be charged with misdemeanor battery for whatever reason which has a shorter statute of limitations as it isn't a sex crime.
/r/MensRights04/04/16 06:57 PM
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Where does it say this was a teen? From what I read she was a 7th grade teacher, and people had suspicions that she was "too friendly" with the boys in her class for a long time, so what would that be? 11-13 or so? That's pretty bad. And it seems like there might be more victims. The real problem regarding these cases and men's rights is how accused men and all boys are treated, not how women are treated. I think the real problem is how men and boys who are victims are treated, not how women are…
/r/MensRights04/04/16 03:48 PM
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This is a disgusting sentence, especially since the starting point for a sentence of sexual violation like that in New Zealand is some pretty serious prison time, and as far as I can tell the judge didn't provide any evidence for switching to home detention. But to clarify, 1) this happened a few months ago, and 2) she will not be required to register as a sex offender because New Zealand does not HAVE a sex offender register. The fact that she is facing basically 0 consequences for raping her c…
/r/MensRights04/04/16 03:33 PM
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Ok, yeah. I want to emphasize that I don't think this in particular is a huge deal, but I take issue with the idea of "it's okay to help only certain groups that we decide are more vulnerable". In this case that may only mean going across the city to get help, but when it becomes refusing to accept single male refugees (including widowed men and orphaned teenage boys) to your country, as Canada has done, it becomes a serious problem.
/r/MensRights02/04/16 07:12 PM
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I completely agree that things like child armies should be helped as well. I agree too, of course. What I'm saying is that groups that help child armies are mandated to have accommodations for both girl and boy soldiers, even if the girl accommodations go underused because there aren't as many. And I think that's a good requirement...could you imagine telling some traumatized 12 year old girl who has just been through hell that she's going to have to try and survive on her own because she's not …
/r/MensRights02/04/16 06:31 PM
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I didn't copy and paste anything. You're arguing that charities should be allowed to discriminate against certain groups in order to focus on helping only those most vulnerable, correct? I'm just pointing out that this argument is only ever used when the more vulnerable group is women, and when the more vulnerable group is men this argument is called "sexist". There was an article posted here sometime last year about a program designed to get more grade school boys to read which had to be cancel…
/r/MensRights02/04/16 05:20 PM
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The fact that someone assumes he has the skill and knowledge to build something based on his gender? So if I assume that my (hypothetical) wife will cook me dinner every night because she's a woman that's actually a complement because I'm just assuming she has the skill and knowledge to do it?
/r/MensRights02/04/16 05:01 PM
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Except that when an issue disproportionately effects men we don't just ignore the needs of women. For instance, far more men than women are in prison for minor crimes, and yet still there is tons of effort being put into keeping women out of prisons. Boys are much more vulnerable to being recruited as child soldiers than girls, and yet feminist groups are always eager to remind charities that they need resources to help girl child soldiers as well. Etc, etc. But when it comes to issues that disp…
/r/MensRights02/04/16 04:59 PM
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This is a very good article, I think. Particularly this paragraph: When we see a woman committing a crime, particularly one that involves them abusing a position of trust and authority, it subverts the traditional victim narrative. We struggle to fathom how women could do that kind of thing so we dismiss the severity of that abuse by placing equal blame and responsibility on the victim. When men commit a crime, particularly one that involves them abusing a position of trust and authority, it rea…
/r/MensRights02/04/16 03:56 PM
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How many incidents do these people have before they finally get caught? Look up the case of Caroline Salisbury. She was caught over and over having sex with a 14 year old boy and given a warning by police not once but twice before finally being charged with a crime. Then, when she was finally convicted of sex abuse the judge had this to say: That is utterly criminal. The police warned you off and you carried on. Young boys have to be kept safe and not be groomed and taken back to your house when…
/r/MensRights02/04/16 02:15 PM
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Thank god for Canada's new mandatory minimums for sex crimes against children. These cases keep coming and coming and if it weren't for these minimums every single one of them would walk free. At least now they have to face 1 year in jail. Could that even be the reason we're seeing more of this reported in Canada - victims who previously would have kept quiet knowing their abusers wouldn't be punished are coming forward now that there's a guarantee of a year in jail no matter how sympathetic the…
/r/MensRights01/04/16 10:14 PM
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I assume this is the case being referred to.
/r/MensRights01/04/16 08:23 PM
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Not for long
/r/MensRights01/04/16 08:19 PM
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It's not an "emotive argument". And nothing is absolute, everything (including murder, all forms of rape, theft, etc) is relative to culture and law.
/r/MensRights01/04/16 06:15 PM
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Is being a child related to law or to culture? Yes, of course.
/r/MensRights01/04/16 05:51 PM
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Sure, I guess. At 14 there isn't really any question though.
/r/MensRights01/04/16 05:39 PM
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I'm not putting words in your mouth, only repeating what you've said over and over again every time I've discussed this with you. Anyone of any age should be allowed to sleep with children if they so choose This is exactly what you argue. You argue that because it's legal for teenagers to have sex with each other, it should be legal for adults to have sex with teenagers too. Or, in other words, adults of any age should be allowed to sleep with children.
/r/MensRights01/04/16 05:32 PM
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Yes, that's exactly what he's saying. I've spent way too many threads arguing with him on this and it will get you nowhere, I promise.
/r/MensRights01/04/16 05:22 PM
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I agree completely, but unfortunately she's in Scotland. Which closed its only women's prison and has no plans to replace it. As much as the judge might want to send her to prison I'm just not sure it would even be possible. The liberal logic is that men should go to prison for crimes but women are never responsible for their own decisions and should only get community service. Edit: Just as comparison, here is the last Scottish woman who did something similar. Pretended to be 15 to groom multip…
/r/MensRights01/04/16 04:09 PM
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Sorry for the mirror link, but it's the only report on this story I could find. This right here is a perfect example of the double standard in letting women get away with things that men never would have...she has posts on her Facebook page describing how hot she thinks 12 year old celebrities are and I guess no one saw that as a red flag. This also acts as a good rebuttal for the post from the other day showing someone arguing that attractive male celebrities are only used to fill some sort of …
/r/MensRights01/04/16 03:34 PM
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Afaik when Trump was asked about this he said women should get paid the same if they do the same work. I'm not sure this is an issue to be choosing candidates over though.
/r/MensRights01/04/16 03:17 AM
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So let me get this straight. She faces 11 charges, he faces 1 of the exact same charge. But she gets bail and he's held without bond? This will be a good example to show of how biased this system is against boy victims once he goes to prison and she gets probation.
/r/MensRights01/04/16 02:37 AM
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Less media exposure on mensrights and maybe the dailymail, but overall it's pretty even. It's just that most of these stories stay confined to local news outlets and you wouldn't see them unless they happen in your area or you see them posted here (or you go actively looking). A quick search on Google News for "teacher sex" will show you that it's split pretty evenly male/female (although you'll also see that the sentences are hugely biased on gender).
/r/MensRights31/03/16 11:15 PM
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I have a collection of links to cases that seem the most relevant to me, for any one of a number of reasons, but it's far from a complete record. Might not be a bad idea to have something like that too. Here they are.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 08:16 PM
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Yeah that's possible. It never really bothered me because even if it were about that sort of thing it's not glorifying it in the same way OP's seems to be.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 07:15 PM
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I don't know. I've always thought the same thing about Bare Grace Misery by Nightwish, but I can't tell if I'm just biased from posting so many stories like this here. I don't think the Nightwish song "glorifies" it so much though. These are the lyrics (it is sung by a woman): Sweet boy, come in I am the dark side of you Die for my sins Like the One once did Cinnamon bed For your unashamed appetite A figurante This dance will hurt like hell Oh, bare grace misery Just a child without a fairytale …
/r/MensRights31/03/16 06:49 PM
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This is a perfect example of the way in which these cases are biased...she's actually arguing what I feel like people tend to be thinking in most of these cases but don't usually say. That boys are always the ones responsible for sex because of biology, or that men/boys are the actors and women/girls are just acted upon. The definition of "sexual assault of a child" requires the accused to cause the penetration to occur, which I presume is intended to prevent rape victims from being charged with…
/r/MensRights31/03/16 03:36 PM
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This. If this story is real, it's actually a blatant Title IX violation. If you reported abuse and they arrested you instead, despite admitting they had no evidence that you did anything wrong and the evidence might actually make you a victim, that's a blatantly hostile environment and you could win a good amount of money.
/r/MensRights30/03/16 06:16 PM
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War. The vast majority of people killed in wars are men and boys. It has always been thus, as DNA evidence reveals. Since civilization began, men and boys have been much, much, much more likely to be slaughtered in a war and/or genocide than their female counterparts. If a state engages in war, a whole bunch of men and boys are going to die. Hence, foreign policy falls under "men's rights," the right to live being topmost. War is, in my opinion, the biggest men's rights issue out there. I agree …
/r/MensRights30/03/16 04:17 PM
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This is a few weeks old but I missed it the first time around, and it was too completely ridiculous to pass up. The amount of apologism for this woman that goes on in that article, particularly coming from the judge, is completely astonishing. It's basically like they're trying to make her the victim. I'm really starting to think Canada's new mandatory minimum sentences for sex crimes against children are a good thing. It's only a minimum 1 year sentence (of which less is probably served), and a…
/r/MensRights30/03/16 01:12 PM
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IDK if you are aware, but an employee of yours, Bonita Tindle recently was on camera assaulting a student based on his race. — Jimmy Russells You've got to be fucking kidding me. Jimmy Russells. Really?
/r/MensRights30/03/16 03:35 AM
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But she's only a threat to boys, so it doesn't really matter. Protecting a single woman sex offender from facing consequences for her actions is much more important than protecting any number of boys from being raped because she is female and therefore more valuable.
/r/MensRights29/03/16 07:35 PM
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I remember there was a case where a woman who admitted to sexually abusing a young boy got a community sentence because she had trouble "controlling her urges". But yeah, I don't think that excuse ever works for men.
/r/MensRights29/03/16 05:33 PM
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The thing about these teacher sex abuse cases, is they're almost always covered by some media outlet or another (local or otherwise). Doing a quick google news search for "teacher sentenced sex" should be enough to give you a quick feel of how the biases we're facing, although I don't think a study has ever been done on it. As far as the scope...the news typically reports 1 or more women being arrested for this per day, plus a similar amount of men (last statistic was 40% of sex offender teacher…
/r/MensRights29/03/16 02:45 AM
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The defense's statement: "I'm hoping that the judge imposes a sentence that is consistent with her history, character and condition," said Sam Shamansky, McConoughey's attorney. "When there's no plea agreement to be had, you take your best shot at sentencing." The prosecutor's statement: Phillips said that the victim, even though male, has suffered socially and from embarrassment. "The law applies regardless of gender," said Phillips.
/r/MensRights28/03/16 11:06 PM
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This is victim-blaming and not at all okay. Downvoted.
/r/MensRights28/03/16 11:02 PM
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Well, women in England and Wales aren't above the law as long as the attorney general keeps appealing suspended sentences. Hopefully the pattern will permanently shift before he's replaced by another attorney general who is less concerned about this. But yeah, the Salisbury case is also great because the appeals judge criticized the original judge perfectly: The judge also criticised Judge Advocate Peters, who had called the sentencing guidelines ‘brutal’ at the original hearing. He added: ‘I wo…
/r/MensRights23/03/16 07:31 PM
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Yeah, he's been referring tons of sentences as unduly lenient for violent and in particular sex crimes, which is fine. But what I appreciate is that he includes in this scope sex crimes committed by women (even if they're less frequent, or at least reported less frequently). If you look at my reply to redditorriot you can look at some of him and the solicitor general's quotes on reviewing these sentences to see what I mean. By appealing every single one of these sentences I think he's trying to …
/r/MensRights23/03/16 03:28 PM
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Jeremy Wright and his solicitor general have appealed every suspended sentence I could find in England/Wales given to a woman for sexual abuse of a child under 16 since late 2014, around the time he assumed the role. They were successful with every appeal but one (Jade Hatt) and I'll link sources for the successful appeals and quotes from Jeremy Wright and his solicitor general when referring to these cases below: Karen Ackland (2014): ‘I am therefore pleased the Court of Appeal today imposed an…
/r/MensRights23/03/16 03:21 PM
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I wanted to point out this story because I think it's possibly the first time I've ever seen a woman in the UK plead guilty to sex offenses with a teenage boy and not avoid jail. My guess would be that this is thanks in large part to Jeremy Wright, the attorney general who has appealed pretty much every case without a jail term in the last year and gotten almost all of them overturned. Hopefully this will be the start of judges realizing a suspended sentence will simply be overturned and just gi…
/r/MensRights23/03/16 01:46 PM
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Not only rags unfortunately. They took the phrasing from the local news which originally reported on this. I would have linked that instead except it required a survey to read.
/r/MensRights22/03/16 08:56 PM
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woman can penetrate a man with sex toys and force penetrate I think the "force penetrate" bit is intended to cover made to penetrate, but it's very unclear and the petition looks like it was written by a third grader to be frank.
/r/MensRights22/03/16 03:21 PM
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Can you sign this petition if you're not from the UK? I would also recommend talking about sexual assault of children here because, as unfortunate as it sounds, you'll get way more sympathy than trying to convince people grown men need to be protected from being raped by women. The case of Jade Hatt is perfect - babysitter who forced the 11 year old she was watching to have sex with her. Had she been a man, it would have been rape of a child based solely on his age and she would go to prison. Be…
/r/MensRights22/03/16 03:19 PM
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Wow, that's interesting. I'd still think of this as a good sentence, though. Most importantly it's not probation so the victim can feel like he was valuable and other offenders will be deterred. And she still could have gotten probation - prosecutors give plea deals to female sex abusers all the time to get around mandatory minimum sentences like this. The best example I remember is Molly Shattuck, who raped her son's friend. My numbers may be slightly off, but from what I remember she was origi…
/r/MensRights22/03/16 03:12 PM
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It's good that she's getting prison time, but a shame that the media continues to call aggravated sexual battery against a 10 year old "sexual relations" (it's not just the dailymail either, they took the phrasing exactly from a local news site that I didn't link to because it required surveys to see)
/r/MensRights22/03/16 02:00 PM
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Of course I support this. It will probably help women in certain respects - equal pay, abortion rights, etc. But all those are rights I support anyway. The reason I would love to see the ERA passed is to help bolster lawsuits in all the areas where men and boys are currently discriminated against (the equal protection clause may or may not be strong enough). This should solidify the lawsuit against selective service in order to make it gender neutral. It should give strength to overturn discrimi…
/r/MensRights20/03/16 03:31 PM
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Lesson of the day: don't be a snarky asswipe that says they would post porn of a 4 year old on your website and expect to win over the jury. But not younger than 4 though. Because that would be crossing the line.
/r/MensRights19/03/16 12:31 AM
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People who post naked pictures of female celebrities without their consent are just monsters who objectify women and destroy lives. People who post naked pictures of male celebrities without their consent are wonderful and should be celebrated, though. After all, men can't be victims right? Typical.
/r/MensRights19/03/16 12:11 AM
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Apparently not because the student was 18 at the time, which doesn't seem to be illegal in New Zealand.
/r/MensRights18/03/16 11:39 PM
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They keep introducing more and more laws like this to protect women from abuse, and then make a billion excuses when men ask to be protected too. That's why it's difficult to support these new laws every time feminists propose one, because even though they're gender neutral on paper you know that women will exempt themselves on a technicality and the law will only really be used to protect women.
/r/MensRights18/03/16 08:39 PM
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From what I understand Canada has a policy where the charge with the highest mandatory minimum sentence cannot be dropped in a plea deal. May not be perfect, but it should at least stop prosecutors from using the threat of a 25 year mandatory minimum term to bully innocent people into pleading guilty in exchange for probation. It is also, in theory, useful for preventing female sex offenders from being guaranteed probation (which is why you can find a number of articles from Canadian feminists c…
/r/MensRights18/03/16 05:50 PM
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I'm not a lawyer, but I read the official judgement TheOpposingView posted below and it seems to be something like the guilty plea was unconditional and at the time the boy acknowledged that by pleading guilty he was giving up all rights to appeal. So the judges basically said "It looks like you have a point but you don't have a right to appeal, sorry". I mean this is how the judge's opinion ends: It is highly doubtful that young Bill has gained much respect of the court system from being single…
/r/MensRights18/03/16 02:17 AM
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And he can, with a straight face, explain that he has to charge the boy because consensual sex between teenagers is as bad as murder but then talk about how he shouldn't charge the girl, despite her actions apparently being as bad as murder as well. I understand the judge's frustration at not being able to overturn this ruling. I'd be seething. I'd probably write a long rant in the judgement just to make it known what an asshat I think the prosecutor is too.
/r/MensRights18/03/16 02:10 AM
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Oh wow that Cunningham guy really ripped into the prosecution. You could just tell how frustrated he was to have to deny the appeal. Thanks for providing that link by the way. Here's the direct link for anyone wondering: http://opinions.kycourts.net/sc/2013-SC-000254-DG.pdf I'm going to save this document for future reference. Cunningham does a great job providing evidence and tearing apart the double standard in the way this kid was treated. He even talks about girls maturing faster than boys a…
/r/MensRights18/03/16 01:49 AM
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Yes, the state in question considers it illegal to have sex with anyone under the age of consent, regardless of your own age. The judge mentions two issues: first, whether it is discrimination to charge only one person in these cases even though they both broke the exact same law, and secondly whether a law can simultaneously argue that a child cannot consent to sex and then punish them for engaging in sex.
/r/MensRights18/03/16 01:28 AM
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But it's so hard to find someone who both has the time and money to keep appealing and is willing to risk a heavy punishment for the sake of making a point. They probably threatened him with years in prison and a lifetime on the sex offender registry if he took this to trial and was found guilty. Of course, he could have appealed, and from what we know now it looks like the appeals courts would have been sympathetic, but how many people would really be willing to risk everything on that verdict?…
/r/MensRights18/03/16 12:16 AM
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The girl's parents reported the boy to police. Technically they were both underage so they could have both been charged with statutory rape, but the prosecutor decided to only prosecute the boy. Bullied him into a plea deal then threw him in jail. Now the state supreme court ruled that it's quite possible the prosecutor violated the equal protection clause by engaging in selective prosecution on the basis of gender, but it can't be reviewed because the boy pleaded guilty. Which is a shame, becau…
/r/MensRights17/03/16 10:48 PM
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They seemed supportive of the idea that this was discrimination, but it's very unfortunate that this can not go forwards because of a technicality. We desperately need a case to go to the Supreme Court and overturn the current precedent that this sort of thing is acceptable because abuse of boys is less serious than the result. Background is that an 8th grade boy had sex with his 7th grade girlfriend and pleaded guilty to make the case go away, but didn't realize this would mean he had to go to …
/r/MensRights17/03/16 09:23 PM
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This is a hugely serious issue, more so because kids in prison have nowhere to go or no way to escape. Some stats: These allegations highlight a troubling phenomenon in juvenile detention centers: Of the 1,390 inmates who report being sexually abused by staff, nine in ten are males who say they were victimized by females, according to a 2013 Justice Department report. Source: http://motherjones.com/politics/2015/03/idaho-juvenile-detention-sexual-abuse
/r/MensRights16/03/16 09:28 PM
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He was apparently 12, but yeah. At least it probably won't be probation.
/r/MensRights16/03/16 05:43 AM
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The charge she initially faced was 8-30 years in prison.
/r/MensRights16/03/16 05:23 AM
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Katerina Bardos, a former fourth-grade teacher at Frontier Academy, pleaded guilty to attempted sex assault on a child and child abuse negligently causing death, both felonies, in a deal earlier this month. She was originally facing 8-32 years, now she's facing 4-20, so hopefully she'll at least get some prison time and will still have to register as a sex offender. Though as the article points out a plea deal for "child abuse negligently causing death" is very strange since no one actually died…
/r/MensRights15/03/16 08:05 PM
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I think we need quotas for women in prisons too. Or is it suddenly just "different"?
/r/MensRights15/03/16 06:54 PM
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Man sends birthday message to sons and goes to jail. Woman rapes 11 year old boy and gets community sentence. Sounds fair.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 05:30 PM
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Teenage girl files class action lawsuit claiming draft registration unfairly discriminates against women
/r/MensRights11/03/16 04:27 PM
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I personally believe arguing either that women should register or that selective service should be eliminated are both coherent positions. What is not a coherent position is arguing that we should continue having selective service and restricting it to men.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 04:17 PM
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I'm not sure, but this site has a collection of sources on that stat: https://1in6.org/the-1-in-6-statistic/
/r/MensRights11/03/16 04:09 PM
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Wow, that's pretty awesome actually.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 04:08 PM
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This story was posted yesterday but, as a followup, she was found guilty today. Which, if you read the article, should be pretty obvious, but still a good result. The evidence against her was overwhelming (including flashing her breasts at him, tons of text messages proclaiming her love, and a confession to police) yet she still tried to blame her victim and accuse him of raping her to get out of it. At least it didn't work. I put the quote in the title just to show how ridiculous her claims wer…
/r/MensRights09/03/16 08:12 PM
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I think the bigger reason is that there's an assumption that men are dangerous to young girls but women are perfectly same to young boys. Part of the reason it's so important for more and more of these stories of boys being abused by women to come out. Once people start to realize that women are not always perfectly safe to be around, maybe they'll start enacting measures to give boys the same protection girls have.
/r/MensRights09/03/16 05:08 AM
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Of course she did. Luckily from reading through the article it seems like she has absolutely shit-all chance of pulling it off. I mean they have sexual texts from her on his phone, she admits to flashing her breasts at him some months ago, hell even a confession where she admits pursuing him for sex...But now the flashing her breasts was a "joke", the confession was "coerced", and all the sexual texts were just an inappropriate way of demonstrating that she loved him like a son. Yeah, sure. "She…
/r/MensRights09/03/16 04:24 AM
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even if she was the primary actor, in the end she was just giving him what he--or what every boy--really wants anyway so he's not really the victim either Mount Hope woman accused of providing sex, drugs to teen Perfect example of what you're talking about. She was just "providing" drugs and sex to him, both of which he clearly wanted to begin with. You know, rather than drugging and sexually assaulting him. Definitely supports your idea of "giving him what he really wants anyway"
/r/MensRights09/03/16 04:11 AM
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Exactly. I did some searches restricted to this news site for the charge "continuous sexual abuse of a child" and found other stories involving this charge - they were men and all were described as "abuse" or "molestation" or "assault". Not one was called a "relationship". I linked them in another post somewhere. Definitely some serious bias here. "Relationship" implies that the boy was an equal partner rather than a victim of abuse. I mean, when it's a teacher having sex with an 18 year old stu…
/r/MensRights09/03/16 04:06 AM
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Still waiting for the mandate that half of teachers and refugees be men and half of prisoners be women.
/r/MensRights09/03/16 02:47 AM
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I'm not so concerned about them not mentioning it was her son as I am calling it a "sexual relationship" rather than abuse or molestation or whatever.
/r/MensRights09/03/16 02:45 AM
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I can't believe an article can openly be this biased about a case like this. Her son was 10, she abused him for months, and she's already been convicted and (luckily) facing up to life in prison. Yet they report continuous sexual abuse of her 10 year old son as a "sexual relationship with a young family member". Meanwhile, other reports on men facing the same charge from the same site: Vacaville man who pled no contest in child sexual abuse case sentenced to prison Texas man sentenced to life fo…
/r/MensRights08/03/16 09:50 PM
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Probation...why am I not surprised. At least she'll be a sex offender though. This one is particularly bad because the kid wanted nothing to do with her and she just kept harassing him. Unfortunately, because he told her "no" and they never actually had sex, there's a lot less they can charge her with.
/r/MensRights08/03/16 09:33 PM
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Yeah but like what I said is I'm not posting topics, I'm just replying to threads already discussing something with my own perspective, when I disagree with what's being said. It's possible that they view that differently than starting a thread criticizing wage gap statistics, for instance.
/r/MensRights08/03/16 06:25 AM
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I don't exactly hang out there. I've probably had like 3 discussions there in the year I've been posting on reddit. I also don't post threads or bring up topics out of the blue, only comment on other posts that are relevant to whatever I'm talking about. Maybe that's it?
/r/MensRights08/03/16 06:17 AM
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Try talking about, male circumcision, women on male rape, radical Islam and the way they treat women, anti-semitism ( which by the way they've proven they don't have much issue with, especially if it's Islamists doing it ), trying to defend due process for men as well will probably get you banned, man hating as well, if you talk abou any of that for too long they'll get defensive and then want you banned if you carry on. Women on male rape is what I was talking about. Those other issues are not …
/r/MensRights08/03/16 06:12 AM
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I'm always highly suspicious of anybody who claims they haven't been banned from there Does this happen often? I did really have something of a debate there a few days ago, on child sex abuse and how it's unfair to boy victims to eliminate women's prisons if I remember right. I post there every once in a while when I feel there's an opinion I want to get across. So far as far as I know never been banned, although that could certainly change soon (I do believe I am still banned from feminism and …
/r/MensRights08/03/16 05:45 AM
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Another one of those cases that won't be factored into Australia's domestic violence statistics I suppose.
/r/MensRights08/03/16 05:09 AM
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That doesn't mean the victims agreed to the plea at all. It just says they "discussed it". If you look at the statement from the victim's lawyer he says the victims are disappointed with the plea and feel as if they were treated very unfairly because they were all imprisoned for minor offenses yet the woman who sexually abused them for months is getting less punishment for what should be a more serious crime.
/r/MensRights08/03/16 04:17 AM
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I had a decent debate with some people there fairly recently and have done so once or twice in the past. They were for the most part very respectful. I don't think they've banned me yet either.
/r/MensRights08/03/16 04:06 AM
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You don't really get a choice. These were kids in a juvenile detention center where she worked. According to their lawyer, they were all their for petty crimes like theft and drugs. He says they're pretty upset that they were jailed for longer for petty crimes than she will get for conspiring with others and drugging and raping several defenseless teenagers.
/r/MensRights08/03/16 04:04 AM
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It's not irrelevant actually. Less violent offenders are less likely to reoffend. I meant to say it was irrelevant in this context because I'm comparing punishments for sex crimes that don't include physical violence, but only coercion and manipulation. Men and women are just as capable of that yet even with our view restricted to these cases the sentences are severely skewed. Also, women are far less likely to reoffend than men are. This is an interesting point. It's why I usually try and be ca…
/r/MensRights08/03/16 01:51 AM
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Two of the boys were 18, one was 17, the other was 15. Guess again.
/r/MensRights08/03/16 01:31 AM
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It's just to point out the hypocrisy...petty theft for these boys means jail, multiple counts of sexual abuse on teens means probation.
/r/MensRights08/03/16 12:27 AM
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He didn't "lose" though because he really has no say in criminal proceedings...the prosecutor decides and that's pretty much that. He's their lawyer for the civil suit.
/r/MensRights07/03/16 09:44 PM
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Afaik the other woman was already convicted. She got a year in jail or so. I don't think it has anything to do with getting her to testify and everything to do with "I don't think she deserves to go to jail so let's drop the serious charges"
/r/MensRights07/03/16 09:42 PM
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The victims lawyer didn't seem too thrilled so I don't know: He said the outcome was particularly unfair to the victims of the sexual abuse, none of whom had committed serious crimes before landing in the juvenile lock-up. "They will have spent more time incarcerated for petty crimes for Valerie Lieteau will for sexually abusing teenagers," Skaug said.
/r/MensRights07/03/16 09:24 PM
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So considering that at least one other employee knew this was going on, and that this woman had multiple victims, I'm going to take a wild guess and assume there are probably other women doing this to other boys in this detention center as well Yup. There was a lawsuit filed by 11 victims claiming a widespread culture of abuse. If memory serves at least one other woman from the facility has already been convicted (she served a small amount of time in prison), and there were allegations that a la…
/r/MensRights07/03/16 07:22 PM
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It's because, almost certainly, the prosecutor feels bad for her and doesn't want to see her get into trouble. As is always the case when dealing with female rapists. And her nursing license is only suspended for 10 years, after which she can presumably go right back to preying on defenseless boys.
/r/MensRights07/03/16 06:07 PM
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It's sad that those boys were probably in prison for something as simple as petty theft but now the woman who drugged and raped four of them, originally facing a life sentence, will avoid even registering as a sex offender for her crimes. Edit: They updated the article. I was right. He said the outcome was particularly unfair to the victims of the sexual abuse, none of whom had committed serious crimes before landing in the juvenile lock-up. "They will have spent more time incarcerated for petty…
/r/MensRights07/03/16 05:20 PM
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Except that this is completely irrelevant to the case described in the article, which is statutory rape and not violent rape. If a 45 year old man were to, for instance, convince his 13 year old 7th grade student that they were in love in order to have sex with her for months driving her to the brink of suicide, that's not exactly a "violent rape", but he'd still be going to prison for years for it. No one would feel sorry for him, and everyone would still look at him as a monster. I think we al…
/r/MensRights07/03/16 05:04 PM
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Where's the quota for 50% male teachers?
/r/MensRights06/03/16 08:27 PM
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That's America, but from the site I'm reading it SEEMS like Canadian sentencing is different (although I'm not 100% sure I'm convinced): In keeping with the will of Parliament, it will generally be inappropriate to either agree to a plea to a lesser offence, or to stay or withdraw a charge, when it is done with the intent of avoiding the imposition of an MMP, where the evidence supports the original charge. Also, where there are two possible charges in a prosecution and one has an MMP and one do…
/r/MensRights06/03/16 08:04 PM
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I don't necessarily disagree, believe it or not. But female judges are also just as inclined to go with the "women offenders are special cases and need treatment not punishment" thing, even if they take the abuse seriously. Which is completely unfair to the victim who doesn't get any sort of justice.
/r/MensRights06/03/16 04:57 PM
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Tough to say if it's because of lack of punishment, because of evolving ideals on female sexuality and empowerment, because of the the ability for private communication provided by cell phones, or even if it's something that has been going on forever but is just now starting to come out. Probably a mix of all of the above.
/r/MensRights06/03/16 02:09 AM
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I think that the state believes there should be some measure of equality or parity when a judge sentences a male sex offender who violates little girls versus a female sex offender who violates young boys. There is a difference. I have a difficult time articulating precisely what that difference is. It's difficult to try to explain what that difference is, but nevertheless I think we know there's a difference -Judge Ronald Wilper, when sentencing a woman who lured 4 different teenage boys to her…
/r/MensRights05/03/16 10:57 PM
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I'm actually afraid that the more progressive a country becomes, the more people advocate for non-custodial sentences for women and the less likely women are to face any consequences for this. Linked here: www.macleans.ca/news/canada/female-teachers-the-sex-offenders-no-one-suspects/ is an article which focuses on similar cases in Canada...although many of these cases involved multiple kids as young as 10 or 11...and still almost none of the women went to jail, and those who did got only a few m…
/r/MensRights05/03/16 09:26 PM
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I agree that a flair might not be a bad idea. If you're looking for a quick list though I've put together a collection of the stories that I think are most relevant (either because they show blatant reporting/sentencing bias or because they show the damage this can actually do) here
/r/MensRights05/03/16 08:43 PM
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They dropped all the others in exchange for her pleading guilty, it would seem. That way it won't seem so bad when they give her a suspended sentence.
/r/MensRights05/03/16 08:28 PM
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Exactly. This article is absolutely perfect for debunking the myth that boys always enjoy this sort of thing and it's totally healthy for them. Which is the most important thing we need to do if we're going to have this sort of thing be taken more seriously. If anyone's interested in more articles like this, I have a collection of them (and some other relevant things) I've crudely organized and am attempting to keep updated in a post here.
/r/MensRights05/03/16 07:39 PM
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What constitutes a weak sentence though? That site says the mandatory minimum is a year in jail. I think if she actually gets that we have to take that as a win.
/r/MensRights05/03/16 04:57 PM
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This whole article makes me sad. Even sadder because he probably won't get any justice and the woman will walk free. This site insists to me that there are mandatory minimum sentences for these crimes in Canada, but I still have no faith. I guess we'll get to see whether those really make a difference when she's sentenced: http://www.ppsc-sppc.gc.ca/eng/pub/fpsd-sfpg/fps-sfp/tpd/p6/ch04.html
/r/MensRights05/03/16 04:13 PM
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So it's totally time that someone challenges this ruling then, I think. Would you need to find a man who had been jailed for statutory rape, or would it be possible for a male victim to file a lawsuit on the grounds that he was denied equal protection? Just because I feel like you'll get a lot more sympathy portraying yourself as defending a rape victim than defending a rapist. I suppose something like this could possibly do it too, but this is slightly different because the law is technically e…
/r/MensRights04/03/16 04:48 PM
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It's sad but it seems that this is what it's going to take to get people to start taking this sort of thing seriously. An influx of so many cases that it becomes clear that the knee-jerk reaction of probation and a suspended sentence just isn't cutting it anymore. It's telling that the one teacher already arrested had her bond set at $625,000. This is why it's good to have more victims coming forward, even if the women usually get probation. The more kids come forward the sooner people might rea…
/r/MensRights04/03/16 02:28 PM
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"Beta" isn't really a meaningful insult in the first place. But there's nothing wrong with arguing that children should be protected from sexual abuse...
/r/MensRights04/03/16 01:56 PM
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An antiquated SCOTUS decision from 1981 that it's long past due time someone challenges: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_M._v._Superior_Court_of_Sonoma_County
/r/MensRights04/03/16 03:51 AM
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Boys and girls may be different but that does not mean that rape of one is less serious than rape of another. That ruling is antiquated and completely inconsistent with a modern interpretation of the constitution and just needs someone to bring forward a challenge to be overturned.
/r/MensRights04/03/16 02:54 AM
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Let's put it this way - if she gets 1 year in prison, I'd call it a massive victory. She will with almost 100% certainty get probation. The problem is that rape has a minimum sentence while lewd conduct does not.
/r/MensRights04/03/16 02:10 AM
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Good idea!
/r/MensRights04/03/16 01:20 AM
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This shit happens to women all the time - they rape kids or whatever and then get out of jail time so they can take care of their own. It's not exactly reassuring to see it happen to a man too. Some crimes are too horrible that jail should be mandatory.
/r/MensRights04/03/16 12:02 AM
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10% of $25,000 is $2,500. That's not a real lot, although it's possible she doesn't have it. For child sex crimes the bail is typically upwards of $100k. Not so much worried about her fleeing the country as pointing out a lower bail indicates it may be taken less seriously come sentencing.
/r/MensRights03/03/16 11:49 PM
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Yeah, even worse because they apparently don't count a man violently raping a toddler as rape if he happens to be a boy. But a 21 year old having otherwise consensual sex with a 17 year old gets the more serious rape charge.
/r/MensRights03/03/16 10:24 PM
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She'll almost certainly have to register, but it's very likely she won't go to prison at all. As I replied to someone else, rape has a minimum sentence while lewd conduct with a child does not. Her bond being only $25,000 is not a good sign for this being taken seriously. But you're right, at least it's theoretically possible for her to get punished.
/r/MensRights03/03/16 08:41 PM
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True, but there's no minimum sentence like there is for rape. Plus her bond is only $25,000. She'll get probation or a few months in jail, almost certainly. Our best hope is that she can't afford bond and has to spend a few months in jail before pleading guilty, unfortunately.
/r/MensRights03/03/16 08:35 PM
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Georgia is slightly better. Rape is gender specific, and so is rape of a child under 10 - both require the victim to be a girl. But statutory rape of a child under 16 is otherwise gender neutral.
/r/MensRights03/03/16 07:52 PM
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Here's Idaho's policy on statutory rape: http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/idaho-statutory-rape-laws.htm It's a shame that this still exists today. There's a SCOTUS ruling from the early 80s allowing it to stand but I think if NCFM is successful with their selective service court case they should challenge this sort of thing next. It's not fair to these victims that their abuse is classed as a lesser offense than the abuse of a girl would be. She's being charged with the offense equ…
/r/MensRights03/03/16 04:22 PM
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Spent an hour or two collecting most of the links I was talking about and responded to you below (they took up 3 posts). I'm sure I forgot a few but I'll try to update them in those posts as I remember. They're pretty much entirely contained to the topics of selective service and sexual abuse of boys. I'd be more than happy to manage pages for these two topics on your wiki and update them with decent regularity since I follow these two topics pretty closely, if you're looking for help. They'd de…
/r/MensRights03/03/16 06:12 AM
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I posted the sources in a reply to rbrockway below. Mostly for my own convenience but feel free to take any ones you think might be valuable. It's basically split into two parts - selective service and sexual abuse of boys. The selective service part is more factual - court documents and oral arguments and documenting the stances of politicians, etc. The sexual assault parts are a lot of individual cases I like to be able to reference because they're particularly useful in demonstrating sentenci…
/r/MensRights03/03/16 05:56 AM
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General Articles on Double Standards Article proposing US is cracking down on female sex offenders partially as a result of more women in law enforcement: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-crime-teachers-idUSKBN0NC14H20150421 Great article discussing gender bias in teacher sex abuse cases in Canada: http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/female-teachers-the-sex-offenders-no-one-suspects/ Nice summary of gender bias in statutory rape cases: http://www.blogher.com/gender-bias-statutory-rape Nice A…
/r/MensRights03/03/16 05:51 AM
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Sexual abuse of boys Cases with explicit double standards in sentencing. Generally judges aren't explicit about their gender bias. In these cases they were (or were very very close). Michael M. v Superior Court of Sonoma County - 1981 Supreme Court ruling that statutory rape laws protecting only girls are constitutional because rape of a girl is more serious than that of a boy. Although the underlying law was since replaced, the ruling still stands and is occasionally used to justify disparate s…
/r/MensRights03/03/16 05:49 AM
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Ok, I've just been informed about the reddit "save comment" feature, so I'm going to collect them now and format them the way I'd like them, and then if anyone else wants them feel free to grab whichever ones you think are useful. Military Conscription United States - Selective Service 1981 - Rostker vs Goldberg Supreme Court case holds 6-3 that drafting only men is constitutional because "[t]he existence of the combat restrictions clearly indicates the basis for Congress' decision to exempt wom…
/r/MensRights03/03/16 05:46 AM
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I don't necessarily care so much about contributing as I would really enjoy having these links somewhere handy for my own personal reference, so if someone is putting together a collection I'd happily contribute for my own benefit. I was kind of excited by the possibility of a wiki-like site, because something like a blog in my opinion isn't indexed very well and doesn't make finding content easy. But if you have some sort of collection I'd be happy to pull some links together and give them to y…
/r/MensRights03/03/16 03:53 AM
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Ok so Neil Wilson, that's one. The other two abused boys, which of course doesn't show very much because I'm arguing that abuse of boys isn't taken seriously (in particular abuse by women, but even abuse of boys by men is taken less seriously). And the Neil Wilson case is from 2013, which is well before any of the examples I listed (the earliest was late 2014). My point anyways was that dozens or probably hundreds of men each year are convicted of child sex crimes in the UK, and probably upwards…
/r/MensRights03/03/16 03:24 AM
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You mean lots of pictures? Depth is only meaningful if you can be sure it has some relationship with reality (and the manchester evening news probably has the best coverage of the Caroline Berriman case). I suppose it's possible it's all bullshit, but I tend to follow these cases closely and it's amazing how something will happen in some little town in Idaho and the dailymail will have more specific details than any of the local papers. Indeed it is which is why the sentence was increased on app…
/r/MensRights03/03/16 02:42 AM
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Say what you'd like about the dailymail, but they provide the most in-depth coverage of anyone when it comes to teacher sex abuse cases. Also, Caroline Berriman was convicted of far more serious charges than Adam Johnson - multiple counts of a more serious sex offense that drove the victim to call a suicide hotline. Does pleading guilty really reduce multiple more serious accounts to a suspended sentence instead of years in prison? Seems unlikely.
/r/MensRights03/03/16 02:22 AM
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It's arguing overcrowding is a problem and the solution is to stop sending women to prison. Point me to where in the article it says we should only stop locking up nonviolent offenders. It says most female offenders are nonviolent and we should stop locking up women, but that means all women. Just ask Scotland, where this exact same kind of talk resulted in tearing down every women's prison exept like 80 spots for dangers to society. But raping little boys doesn't count as that so women who rape…
/r/MensRights02/03/16 10:59 PM
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The article is arguing for doing away with women's prisons and giving women community sentences for all crimes, up to and including rape and murder. Women who rape little boys and attack men are already pretty much guaranteed to avoid jail, and this would only make it worse because they believe women criminals are "different" and shouldn't be punished only rehabilitated. Come let me know when this author writes an article advocating men who rape little girls get rehabilitative non-custodial sent…
/r/MensRights02/03/16 10:40 PM
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I hate these articles. These worthless scumbags are the reason it's so hard for boys (and occasionally men) raped by women to get any justice. They just need to jump right in and apologize for the rapist and demand she walk free. But when men rape little girls these same people will be demanding justice for the victims. Why don't boys deserve the same? Makes me sick with anger because they won't even acknowledge that they're engaging in rape apology with this shit.
/r/MensRights02/03/16 10:37 PM
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He's not the one who filed the lawsuit. The lawsuit was filed by the 15 year old she originally pursued, who repeatedly turned her down only to have her keep pestering him for sex. When she finally gave up on him she went after the 17 year old.
/r/MensRights02/03/16 05:01 PM
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The lawsuit was filed by the younger kid, not the 17 year old. That's why I posted it.
/r/MensRights02/03/16 05:00 PM
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Just some more proof that this sort of thing can be just as harmful for boys as it is for girls...I hope he wins the case. Apparently the school had evidence that this was going on, but chose not to act...hopefully more of these lawsuits being filed will force schools to realize they have a duty to intervene and report this sort of thing to the authorities, not sweep it under the rug. We need to reveal the true scope of this problem in order to start seeing change. I hope she gets jail time too.…
/r/MensRights02/03/16 04:56 AM
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I don't know. In some countries (like the UK) sentencing guidelines explicitly state to be more lenient on women, so challenging them would be tough. As far as the US, for sex crimes at least there is a standing Supreme Court precedent that crimes committed by men against girls are more serious than those committed by women against boys, which has been used to shut down a number of appeals by men complaining their sentences were too harsh, although I don't know if the reverse has ever been ruled…
/r/MensRights01/03/16 04:19 PM
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Because of her conviction, she's barred under "moral turpitude", and won't be able to even get on a plane to the US (if she lied on the ESTA site, on the chance USCIS isn't aware of what she did, she'd be found out right quick at the border). She also wouldn't be able to immigrate, either, and fair enough too. Oh, that's interesting. Also kind of a relief. Yes, and that decision is now under appeal. I believe you, but I looked this up and couldn't find anything. Is there a source on this?
/r/MensRights01/03/16 05:51 AM
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I think a (neatly organized and indexed) list of references would be very helpful. If you do decide to go forward with this and need any help I'd be willing to put in some work. At the very least I have a large amount of articles regarding the sexual abuse and victimization of boys that I think would be helpful to have indexed, as I frequently reference them when making arguments (usually as evidence that this sort of thing is just as damaging to boys as it is to girls)
/r/MensRights01/03/16 05:47 AM
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Oh, okay. As far as I know we don't ban people with previous convictions from traveling to the US (although she may be prohibited from immigrating here). I could be wrong? Canada certainly doesn't. They took in a woman fleeing prison time in the US after being convicted for sexually abusing a boy and gave her fucking refugee status.
/r/MensRights01/03/16 05:21 AM
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Oh god the Jade Hatt case. Yeah, when I said above that the UK attorney general had appealed 6 cases involving woman abusing boys and won 5 of them...she was the 6th. Which is honestly bizarre, because the other 5 involved older boys (14-15 as opposed to 11), and the same appeals judge who ruled on the Hatt case ruled in a number of those cases as well. What's worse is she certainly won't be "never allowed to travel". She's only going to be a sex offender for a few years. She didn't really face …
/r/MensRights01/03/16 05:07 AM
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Hm, but have they ever appealed the sentence of a woman to home detention for sexually abusing young boys? For instance I know the attorney general for England/Wales has made a habit of it recently (since taking over as attorney general in in mid-2014 I think he has appealed 6 of these non-custodial sentences for women, which amounts to every one I could find in his jurisdiction involving boys under 16, and had 5 of them overturned and replaced with jail). I don't recall seeing any similar examp…
/r/MensRights01/03/16 04:19 AM
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I suspect the Attorney-General will appeal this sentence, which is good. Has the attorney general ever done a similar thing before? I've seen a number of NZ sentences of home detention for raping young boys and none have been appealed as far as I know. Like, for instance, this one for filming child porn molesting her one year old son and selling it online who also got home detention.
/r/MensRights01/03/16 03:47 AM
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I would take the stances that are easy to take without necessarily coming off badly. The draft is a good one, as you can talk both about how it shows women are just as capable as men and how society should require equal obligation with equal rights (can even tie in the ERA if needed). Another one that I find particularly important is you can hit out at double standards regarding male victims of sexual abuse. It's hard for anyone to argue you or get mad at you for talking about getting justice fo…
/r/MensRights01/03/16 03:08 AM
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Not so much worried about the result (if no one can wear beards because it doesn't work with the technology, so be it) as the logic used to justify the conclusion - the human rights code wasn't designed to protect cisgendered men, so therefore it shouldn't. AKA, we can discriminate all we want against men, and they don't have any human rights in that regard. Very upsetting.
/r/MensRights01/03/16 01:49 AM
40

Are you kidding? It's not probation...that's huge progress.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 10:52 PM
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Now I'm not sure if it's just standard operating procedure in NZ to consider reports on home detention in all cases like this, but somehow I doubt it. She was 44 and he was 14, so the age gap is huge. What's more she was his teacher and in a position of power. What's even more she plead not guilty and dragged him through a trial. Yet it seems like she's still going to be let off with home detention. I have a hard time believing that would even be considered for a 44 year old man who did the same…
/r/MensRights29/02/16 07:15 PM
1

Now I'm not sure if it's just standard operating procedure in NZ to consider reports on home detention in all cases like this, but somehow I doubt it. She was 44 and he was 14, so the age gap is huge. What's more she was his teacher and in a position of power. What's even more she plead not guilty and dragged him through a trial. Yet it seems like she's still going to be let off with home detention. I have a hard time believing that would even be considered for a 44 year old man who did the same…
/r/MensRights29/02/16 07:14 PM
1

If you were a male, aged 16 and had sex with a woman who was over the age of 18, and she got pregnant: Would that child be considered a rape baby? No, the age of consent in Ohio is 16. Would the male not be able to see his kid until he turned 21? If so, why? It depends on how the family courts rule I'd imagine, they could probably make this decision if they want, but they wouldn't be obligated to. Would he be able to leave his state?(Ohio) The kid? Why would he be prevented from leaving his stat…
/r/MensRights29/02/16 06:29 AM
10

I follow two mens rights issues pretty closely: selective service/conscription and double standards with regards to sexual abuse and the lack of justice abused boys receive. I have a list of sources I absolutely love but right now they're mostly in my head and I have to try to remember enough keywords to google it every time I want one. AFAIK reddit doesn't have any system for saving a set of links so if you were willing to start some sort of wiki I'd be happy to contribute sources in those two …
/r/MensRights29/02/16 02:41 AM
2

Probably not, but I don't care so much about making excessive sentences equal. What I care about is getting boys equal protection from sexual abuse, which essentially involves making women understand that there WILL be punishment if you do this, and not just probation. For these purposes, 10 years works as well as 30.
/r/MensRights28/02/16 03:46 PM
15

Innocent male refugees fleeing conscription and execution are not considered vulnerable enough to get refugee status in Canada, but female rapists who might have to go to prison are...very sad. I really want a man accused of statutory rape of a 16 year old to try fleeing to Canada, too. If they refuse to give him refugee status call them out on their bullshit.
/r/MensRights27/02/16 08:16 PM
2

Of course not. This kid is a monster. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to help those boys who are though.
/r/MensRights27/02/16 06:29 PM
8

A guy who knowingly transmitted STDs to his adult partner would almost certainly get prison time. She'll get probation or maybe a month or two in jail.
/r/MensRights27/02/16 06:27 PM
6

Did she cross your line by going after a 12 year old, or do you just not feel like arguing?
/r/MensRights27/02/16 04:17 AM
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Apparently she targeted two kids, but here's what happened with the younger kid: The rape charge alleged Breedlove engaged in sexual intercourse with a juvenile male under the age of 14. The information said the allegations covered a four-year period. Happy to see her being punished the same way a man would for these crimes. I don't really view 30 years as necessary if she's not a risk to re offend, but it's a hell of a lot better than probation and a stern talking-to.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 06:59 PM
2

I have nothing against this. I just think it should be made gender neutral. It wouldn't take anything away from the bill but would make things much more fair.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 06:44 PM
1

So many times have I read articles/cases where the boys own Mother saying at some point she doesn't want the female offender to face jail time. I don't know if I've ever seen this. Always when I see it it's the mothers sticking up for them and asking for jail time, or being frustrated when none happened (look at cases like Molly Shattuck or Jade Hatt). or just as worse, imagine it's currently happening to you, and then it's mentioned in a joke or perhaps portayed on television (Saturday Night Li…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 03:26 AM
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The action isn't so much a problem as the underlying justification. He needs to hold it for her out of respect, but she has no reciprocal obligation to show HIM respect. The conclusion, of course, being that women deserve respect and men do not.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 10:12 PM
1

Usually the moms care. I could spit off a dozen articles with a mom walking out of court fuming saying something to the effect of "If that had been a man he'd be in jail now". In most cases they have testimony with the mom (verbally) attacking the woman. The problem is aside from the victim and his family no one else really cares.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 10:02 PM
3

Not even close to all of them get posted. Just yesterday we had this one and about three others (one was 16, two were 14, and one was 8). We're at the point where it's multiple cases a day and still it's always "inappropriate relationship" and the probation. At least for the 8 year old they referred to it as molestation.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 06:21 PM
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She's being charged with 5 counts of child molestation and 5 counts of aggravated child molestation...kind of off-topic but I looked it up and I find it really bizarre that the only difference in these two charges is that "child molestation" refers to sex with a child under 16 while "aggravated child molestation" refers to sodomy (in this case oral sex) with a child under 16. Yet child molestation carries a minimum of 5 years in prison while aggravated child molestation carries a minimum of 25 y…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 05:43 AM
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Sure. But then you need to stop campaigning to close down women's prisons so that women who rape little boys get away with it.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 03:41 AM
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There is no way in hell that kid is 16. Strikes me as suspicious that the only papers running this story are British tabloids though, and this apparent "child actor" doesn't have an IMDb page or anything.
/r/MensRights24/02/16 09:04 PM
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Some key parts: "She'd tell me she'd kill me if I told anybody or if I contacted anybody, so I always felt pressured when I was in her presence or at the school," he said. Also: I'm scared she's going to get a slap on the wrist and come after me," Nick said. The old prosecutor's ideas about chivalry were interesting too. I'm glad, at least, that more and more boys are starting to come forward and talk about how this is harmful. Hopefully that can be the first step in getting some sort of change.…
/r/MensRights24/02/16 02:42 PM
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Some key parts: "She'd tell me she'd kill me if I told anybody or if I contacted anybody, so I always felt pressured when I was in her presence or at the school," he said. Also: I'm scared she's going to get a slap on the wrist and come after me," Nick said. The old prosecutor's ideas about chivalry were interesting too. I'm glad, at least, that more and more boys are starting to come forward and talk about how this is harmful. Hopefully that can be the first step in getting some sort of change.…
/r/MensRights24/02/16 02:39 PM
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I'll withold judgement until I know what "coerced" means. But it is odd that the charge he's facing is effectively a statutory rape charge (it applies either to having sex with minor or coercing someone into sex) and yet all the articles describe it as rape. If it were reversed it would be an "inappropriate relationship", even if she threatened him with a knife. I bet he'll go to jail if found guilty too. No probation for him.
/r/MensRights24/02/16 02:22 PM
1

Do you have a source on this?
/r/MensRights24/02/16 03:56 AM
1

In the next 20 years, any age difference will be considered predatory, and there'll be legal recourse for people age 20 to go after people age 30 or 40 who have sex with them, because of the "age power imbalance" bullshit. That won't happen. So 17 years and 364 days = groomed, 18 years = not. What a lovely sense of morality you have. This kid was 15, so this point is irrelevant.
/r/MensRights24/02/16 03:44 AM
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The young victim, however, told the police that his parents did not seek out medical help for him because they “didn’t know what to say to the doctors” about how the injuries occurred.
/r/MensRights24/02/16 12:31 AM
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This is part of the reason I always advocate for focusing special attention on issues that hurt boys as opposed to grown men. It is very difficult to get people to give a flying fuck about grown men, but when you phrase it as a "children's rights" issue people are much more likely to be sympathetic. People will acknowledge that conscripting underage boys to die in war is evil but somehow think doing the same to grown men is perfectly fine. People will accept that a woman can rape an underage boy…
/r/MensRights23/02/16 03:19 PM
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I agree. And so, I think, do all but the most extreme of feminists when you bring it up in the context of child sexual abuse. But these bills get passed by pointing out the fact that most women in prison are there for minor crimes, and many have children they need to be taking care of. All valid complaints that no one really argues with. But then, rather than advocating for policies to stop sending women (or anyone) to prison over minor crimes, they just advocate for tearing down women's prisons…
/r/MensRights23/02/16 06:08 AM
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Yeah, unfortunately feminist groups are actually succeeding in doing this. They have UN resolutions passed saying women shouldn't be sent to jail, and countries like the UK are slowly in the process of destroying all women's prisons thanks to feminist actions. Scotland, for instance, already destroyed all their prisons for women but a few "community" facilities for like 80 women total (for the entire country), relegated no doubt to dangerous serial murderers...The rest are just free to do whatev…
/r/MensRights23/02/16 05:22 AM
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Do you think feminism has valid points as well? Yes, but I can't call myself a feminist. As to rape culture, I agree that it is a problem. I further agree that it is a problem for both men and women. In fact, the primary reason I oppose feminism is because feminism SUPPORTS rape culture of men and boys. Feminists are campaigning hard to remove all women's prisons and instead sentence women, for any crime, to community service. This means that the growing number of women who rape and molest males…
/r/MensRights23/02/16 02:48 AM
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Yes, but the idea that marital rape could be a thing certainly wasn't there either, and yet Sansa's rape scene is still made out to be horrific. What's more, the reaction from feminists OP talks about is a critique of this sort of sexual violence. Since we were already critiquing sexual violence in GoT from a modern perspective, I'm only extending on that.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 02:34 AM
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Two 14 year olds "groom" each other, oh thats alright. 14 year olds can't exactly take each other to Disneyland, can they.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 02:14 AM
2

Doesn't look so much like insanity, as intentionally targeting kids and grooming them for sex.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 02:13 AM
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I view this as a victory. First of all, it's not probation or a token jail sentence, which is huge. Second, California has extremely lenient statutory rape laws. Even with all the charges, if she had gotten no plea deal and been convicted by trial, the maximum she could have received was right around 9 years. Obviously there's going to be some discount for a plea deal and, while 4 years is still kind of lenient for the sheer number of victims she had, it's not totally unreasonable for California…
/r/MensRights23/02/16 02:12 AM
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Okay, so I looked it up. In the TV show Tommen was supposed to be 15 at the time, while Margaery was in her 20s. Definitely statutory rape, although not quite as bad as 12. Yet the show portrays it as a joke and no one hates Margaery (To be clear, the actress who plays Margaery when describing the scene said that she didn't feel comfortable with it but had to act what was written, so it's definitely not her fault).
/r/MensRights23/02/16 02:08 AM
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They also don't seem too concerned about Margaery molesting a kid who I think is supposed to be 12. She's like their hero.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 02:21 PM
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Men who rape are so evil that they should be sent to prison even without a fair trial. But we're still not allowed to send female rapists to prison, even with a trial and a conviction, because they just made a mistake and should get therapy and healing instead.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 03:59 AM
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And, as is par for the course, she was allowed to plead guilty to a far lesser charge and avoid jail time. Although at least she has to register as a sex offender.
/r/MensRights21/02/16 06:06 PM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3423274/Adult-woman-pretended-15-groom-boys-young-10-spared-jail.html Yeah I know it's the dailymail but they're the only ones reporting it.
/r/MensRights21/02/16 01:42 AM
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There are parts of feminism that will campaign for equality, and parts of it that campaign for superiority. The most glaring example of this is that feminists in many countries (particularly in the UK and especially Scotland) have declared a goal of tearing down all women's prisons and giving women community service for all crimes. The problem here is that women do horrible things, such as torturing their partners or raping children, and still are protected by feminists. A few weeks ago, for ins…
/r/MensRights21/02/16 01:29 AM
2

Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like number of charges might matter in that it's harder for them to justify a suspended sentence or home detention for 36 charges than it would be for one or two.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/02/16 12:52 AM
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A defendant can get bail, even if considered dangerous, if there's a condition or combination of conditions that will reasonably assure the safety of the community. That's probably where they put her. There's nothing wrong with the bail in and of itself, as long as she is sent to prison after being convicted. I just seriously doubt that she will be.
/r/MensRights21/02/16 12:48 AM
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Apparently she does, as her bail conditions include not owning a computer or phone, or being near males under 18.
/r/MensRights21/02/16 12:41 AM
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As far as I know, she did not.
/r/MensRights21/02/16 12:21 AM
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It may have been? There was an article the other day about something similar that said the girl was going to face charges, but I'm not sure if it was this same case or not. I wouldn't be too worried about it, the public reaction to this (cheering over a boy being violently assaulted) is so sickening that I think it's important to have here.
/r/MensRights21/02/16 12:09 AM
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Nothing new. People always laugh and cheer when girls are hurting boys. Still not as bad as this one, where a drunk woman sits on top of this young boy on the bus, rips off his shirt, and then tries to take off his pants as well, all while her drunk friends roar with laughter and he sits there trying feebly to stop her and looking terrified. Finally when she has his pants halfway off the camerman steps in and gets her off him but to think an entire bus full of people just sat there and watched t…
/r/MensRights21/02/16 12:06 AM
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In the US, prosecutors can drop charges with mandatory minimums in plea deals. They often have mandatory minimums whose purpose isn't to actually give sentences that long, but to allow prosecutors to bully defendants into taking a plea deal for much less time or risk the mandatory minimum going to trial. For instance, Molly Shattuck (woman who raped 15 year old boy) was facing up to life in prison with a mandatory minimum of 3 years for her crime. She pleaded guilty to a lesser charge with punis…
/r/MensRights20/02/16 02:59 PM
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Quick clarification : they were quoting her defense lawyer, not the judge. I'm not Canadian so I'm not too familiar with their court systems, but if you know more do you know how strictly they have to adhere to the mandatory minimums? From the research I did it seems pretty strict (can't negotiate it down or drop the charges in a plea deal, that kind of thing) so I have a really hard time seeing how she could avoid at least the minimum, but I have faith they'll find a way.
/r/MensRights20/02/16 05:38 AM
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I did some quick research, and a number of the charges she's facing (making child pornography, sexual assault against a person under 16, luring a person under 16, etc...) have mandatory minimum sentences in Canada. With a total of four victims as young as 12 and 36 charges, a number of them with mandatory prison sentences, it will be interesting to see how the courts justify sparing her jail (which, of course, they will almost certainly do). Also I'm aware the article doesn't specifically mentio…
/r/MensRights20/02/16 03:35 AM
1

I read somewhere that Scalia was of the opinion that the Constitution does not guarantee gender equality at all, so I can't see how his death would be bad for this case. Although it certainly won't be good for Apple v. FBI.
/r/MensRights20/02/16 03:28 AM
1

Regardless, that's the comparison that the author of the bill is trying to make. The important point is that this is not a serious bill.
/r/MensRights20/02/16 03:07 AM
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In case you missed it, this is a purely sarcastic protest bill. She's using it to protest Kentucky's restrictive abortion laws by drawing attention to how ridiculous it is to need your partner's consent for birth control. In no way does she actually want or expect this bill to pass.
/r/MensRights20/02/16 02:58 AM
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Good quote: “We believe a lot of it comes down to male disposability, and the draft is just one of those areas where the law treats men as disposable,” said Marc Angelucci, the coalition’s vice president and a lawyer who is handling the case pro bono. Some info about what's next: In its ruling, the 9th Circuit said much of the uncertainty over women’s roles in the military has now passed, and that it is now valid for the courts to take up the issue. The panel also ruled that the men’s coalition …
/r/MensRights20/02/16 01:36 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but as of this moment we don't know for certain whether she was raped or not, right? Obviously his acquittal doesn't make him innocent, and the idea of bashing the victim here is wrong. But I don't see how we can presume that he was guilty either, given only what we know.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 11:23 PM
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Good.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 10:53 PM
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That's what makes this stuff scary. It's horrifying enough if men think these things, but at least they're kept in check by the law. A woman is basically free to do whatever she wants, so it's even more frightening when women have disturbing fantasies. It wouldn't matter if she was a serial offender who slipped drugs into 6th graders drinks, raped them, and then castrated them. She'd still get probation.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 06:48 PM
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Where are all the comments talking about how you should only ever use exactly as much force as necessary to fight back? When a girl assaults a boy and he hits back we always hear how he's responsible because he should have used just enough force to escape. When a boy mocks a girl and she hits him, she's some sort of hero. Why?
/r/MensRights19/02/16 06:02 PM
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They're probably so sure they're going to get probation that they don't care.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 04:30 PM
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According to a victim's mom he was 14 years old...it's such fucking bullshit. These pedo women KNOW they are allowed to do what they do. They KNOW there won't be any consequences. Children are being raped because these fucking asshole judges and prosecutors allow them to get away with it. Every single fucking time. It's a horrible, horrible world when pedophiles are told by the government they can feel safe and protected in preying on children as long as they're women. Edit: From a facebook comm…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 03:43 PM
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In addition to the video games and grades, she even took them on trips to Disneyland. If that's not grooming, I don't know what is. At least the case was handled pretty fairly. She was only ever facing a maximum of 9 years in prison and the plea deal she took gave her almost 4.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 04:31 AM
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I think articles like this are important for people to see that the victims of these cases are, in fact, harmed by it, and not just "lucky". It seems like in more and more of these cases the victims are actually speaking out and I think that's great.
/r/MensRights18/02/16 09:53 PM
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Ted Cruz is also batshit crazy, so if he gets elected president this will be the least of our worries. But yeah, if you read his justification it's even more sickening. His precious baby girls are too valuable to send to combat, but other people's sons are apparently disposable trash.
/r/MensRights18/02/16 04:12 AM
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Basically a warning. She also has to register as a sex offender for 2 years. Seems to be a pretty common response in the UK for female sex offenders. If you read this article, this woman was caught sex with a 14 year old boy and was warned by police TWICE before she was finally prosecuted.
/r/MensRights18/02/16 04:09 AM
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Yeah, I tried to include a quote to clear it up. Performing sex act in front of a child and encouraging her to participate. I wanted to be clear that it wasn't just having sex in public and a kid happened to see, she was doing this intentionally to get the kid to participate.
/r/MensRights18/02/16 01:46 AM
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Also, through it's insistence that women never go to jail or suffer any consequences whatsoever for their actions, however heinous, feminism is directly responsible for any number of rapes, molestations, and serious assaults perpetrated by women, typically directed against children. Why don't you go talk to an 11 year old who had to watch his rapist blame him for wanting it and then walk free from court because feminism protected her, and see how he feels about it.
/r/MensRights17/02/16 11:26 PM
2

I agree that it is not the ideal solution, nor do I think consensual sex with an 18 year old should get you 10 years in prison. But I also think it's horrible that female teachers are allowed to prey on 7th graders in safety knowing that even if they get caught they won't go to prison at all. If this solves that problem, it might be worth a few unduly harsh sentences (for people who have still done something very wrong and need to be punished). A better solution might be a mandatory minimum sent…
/r/MensRights17/02/16 09:05 PM
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Shelley Mead, aged 35, formerly of Hessary Drive, Roborough in Plymouth but now living in St Austell in Cornwall was said to have been fully aware that the vulnerable schoolgirl saw what she was doing. Mead asked the child to watch her playing with herself and even invited the girl to join in. Judge Paul Darlow set down a trial to last two or three days, but the court heard she had accepted a police caution and the Crown Prosecution Service said it would not offer any further evidence. Another e…
/r/MensRights17/02/16 08:54 PM
2

Except couldn't this be used to help, when the only fact a judge considers is whether the teacher is a man or a woman?
/r/MensRights17/02/16 08:32 PM
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I posted about a similar bill in Ohio proposed only a few weeks ago (although the mandatory minimum was much lower). Seems there's some action being taken on this. I wonder though if this will be applied to women as well or they will mysteriously be given plea deals to avoid that 10 years in prison every time while the men just get longer sentences.
/r/MensRights17/02/16 02:48 PM
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The same people that have been trying to end registration for years. Here is an article from 2011. The point I was trying to make is that registering for the selective service is far more symbolic than paying for a stamp.
/r/MensRights17/02/16 02:03 PM
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Now we haven't seen how this will play out yet, but we need more prosecutors like this who at least seem willing to treat these cases seriously: "The allegations against Ms. Smith are serious and disturbing," Hummel said in a news release. "Injuring a child so you can live out a perverted fantasy is intolerable. If a jury agrees with me that Ms. Smith did indeed commit these acts, I’ll seek a significant penalty.”
/r/MensRights17/02/16 04:32 AM
1

It's not "my" bill. It was a bill proposed by members of Congress, and this is a petition started by various antiwar groups that I am simply sharing because I think it would be beneficial for men's rights. I think we can agree to disagree here. I understand where you're coming from, and agree with you that a SCOTUS ruling against draft discrimination would be ideal. I'm just a little nervous about the how that case would turn out if brought right now. The Supreme Court is in a state of disarray.…
/r/MensRights17/02/16 01:41 AM
1

Then you try again in another five years. You can't just "try again in another 5 years", that's the problem. It took over 30 years to get back this time and the only reason it happened was because of opening combat roles to women. If we lose this time, there will never be another milestone like that (short of a possible ERA) to reopen the conversation. There would be no grounds for filing a lawsuit for a long long time, at the very least for a generation or two until enough SCOTUS judges die tha…
/r/MensRights16/02/16 10:42 PM
4

This isn't a serious bill. It's designed to make a point about abortion rights.
/r/MensRights16/02/16 10:05 PM
1

Look retard. There is no selective service to be abolished. There is only selective service registration, which is an entirely different thing. You know what I mean. I don't accept that my sons would be forced to die or be dismembered a violent manner simply because some over-idealistic twit is more concerned about who fills out index cards than who is going to die. My point was that, even assuming a SCOTUS ruling that draft registration must be equal, there's nothing to stop them exempting wome…
/r/MensRights16/02/16 09:45 PM
1

Objectively speaking, it does zip. You're assuming "objectively" means only stopping people from dying. But selective service is devastating even if we assume that a draft will never happen again, and it's that problem I'm talking about now. Abolishing the paperwork does nothing to avert the objective outcome that is the main concern here. No, but neither does your solution. Neither requiring women to register nor a court case requiring women to register will do anything to stop women being assi…
/r/MensRights16/02/16 05:25 AM
1

Of course it does. It removes the horrible discrimination against teenage boys and a legal document affirming the sentiment that the lives of boys are worth less than the lives of girls. It also removes a process under which, under threat of prison and fines, boys are forced to sign a paper to the government agreeing that their lives are worth less than girls and they will die defending girls if necessary on their 18th birthday. Doing away with this is a huge symbolic step towards fighting this …
/r/MensRights16/02/16 05:11 AM
1

I don't know. Perhaps I'm being careless but this is the issue that attracted me to mens rights in the first place and it's on the top of my list of things that need to be solved. The idea of it falling off the radar for another 40 years and losing all leverage for bringing it up again terrifies me so I'd like it to be resolved as soon as possible. At least that way we will not have this horrible discrimination against men lingering in the law for the next 60 years with no way to challenge it.
/r/MensRights16/02/16 05:02 AM
1

These are all fair points. I suppose I'm operating under the assumption that a draft happening in the near future is highly unlikely, and therefore worrying now solely about taking the path most likely to, however necessary, end the unequal system we have today with as high a probability as possible. In the event of an actual draft, I would want to spend most of my energy opposing the draft itself and less energy fighting over the issue of drafting women.
/r/MensRights16/02/16 04:48 AM
1

Repealing selective service registration does absolutely nothing to avert that outcome, because registration is not necessary for a young man to be drafted. Every single male who has ever refused to register for the selective service is still up for combat if his number comes up in a future draft. This is the way it always has been and it remains to be the case now. But we can just as easily file lawsuit then as we can now. As it is, boys and men are being forcibly conscripted into combat all ov…
/r/MensRights16/02/16 03:41 AM
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There is no role for sexist chivalrist presumptions in law. There will be no sexist chivalrist presumptions if selective service is eliminated. The chance of a draft being implemented in the next few decades is basically nil, notwithstanding WW3. The real issue, symbolic as you put it, is the fact that teenage boys are forced to register their bodies as property of the state, acknowledging that their lives are worth less than their female peers from the moment they turn 18. This is an awful thin…
/r/MensRights16/02/16 03:23 AM
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There are 3 competing proposals right now : one would expand selective service for women (but was proposed tongue-in-cheek, the authors of the bill said they would vote against it), one attempts to reiterate women's exemption and bar the Supreme Court from intervening (won't work), and this one, which would do away with selective service altogether. I'm in favor of this one, personally. But getting women to register would be the best alternative.
/r/MensRights16/02/16 03:14 AM
2

More information: http://www.globalresearch.ca/say-no-to-war-a-new-bill-to-abolish-the-u-s-military-draft/5508007
/r/MensRights16/02/16 12:19 AM
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Another sickening example of how little boys and men matter in society...No male teacher could admit preying on THREE students and avoid getting punished. They didn't even try to make an excuse for her. They can't say she was "in love", because it's clear that she was preying on multiple students only for her own gratification. Apparently they don't even need an excuse, they can just let her get away with it. I wonder how many other female teachers saw this ruling and now feel safe in abusing th…
/r/MensRights15/02/16 11:13 PM
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But I'm guessing if you have a problem with a crazy liberal professor assaulting or verbally harassing you (melissa click) you better just keep it to yourself because your discomfort doesn't count, right?
/r/MensRights15/02/16 09:51 PM
1

Of course you have the right to intervene and put a stop to it. You don't have the right to assault or harm someone else's child (or your child for that matter), though.
/r/MensRights15/02/16 03:56 PM
25

Cool, thanks for sharing. We definitely need more posts like this here, about doing away with gender stereotypes that hold men and boys down.
/r/MensRights15/02/16 05:14 AM
2

This is what happens when feminists control our gov't. On one hand, the grandfather gets punished for stopping a rapist. On the other, if he had done nothing, he would be seen as a rape sympathizer for letting his granddaughter be assaulted/raped. Either way, he's screwed. Are you sure this was legally rape? Almost all states have "romeo and juliet" clauses for situations like this. And I didn't read anything about the boy being charged. The grandfather shouldn't have shot OR punched him. That's…
/r/MensRights15/02/16 03:36 AM
4

Really? It's creepy and inappropriate, but I don't know about rape...Could be like an 8th grader and a 7th grader...
/r/MensRights15/02/16 02:46 AM
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Was found not guilty of rape but guilty of statutory rape (he was 18, she was 15). Sentenced to a year in jail and 25 years on the sex offender registry. currently free pending appeal. Sentence was bullshit, of course, considering that's one year more of jail time than a 50 year old woman would get for having sex with a 15 year old boy...
/r/MensRights15/02/16 02:43 AM
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To be fair, he shot him multiple times point blank with a gun. He's lucky that's not attempted murder.
/r/MensRights14/02/16 11:30 PM
20

People always joke about this, fathers and grandfathers shooting boys for having sex with their daughters, but I think this is a perfect example of why joking about violence should never be okay. This guy, as have others, clearly took it seriously and thought he was entitled to take a child's life for having consensual sex with his granddaughter. Luckily the kid survived and this guy was adequately punished. But society seems to be okay with jokes about killing kids as long as those kids are boy…
/r/MensRights14/02/16 08:50 PM
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She was also ordered to complete 80 hours unpaid work and repay the £14,220 she conned from Matthew. At least there's that.
/r/MensRights14/02/16 12:38 AM
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FYI in case you missed it, the article is split into two entirely separate opinions written by two different people. The person you quoted regarding "what kind of man" was entirely separate from the person you quoted first (and the one I quoted in the OP).
/r/MensRights13/02/16 09:57 PM
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This is the key point. Giving birth is OPTIONAL, a draft is mandatory. For anyone who uses this excuse, ask them if they would be willing to mandate that all 18 year old girls sign a registry agreeing to be be required to give birth to a child if the population gets too low. They'll act horrified and say no, of course. Because somehow girls choosing to give birth means that men should be forced to go to war.
/r/MensRights13/02/16 06:49 PM
2

Nice comparison. And I'm still completely baffled by this bill. Do these politicians really think they can just pass a bill telling the Supreme Court they can't intervene?
/r/MensRights12/02/16 01:26 AM
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Aside from showing that Rubio will just say whatever the hell people want to hear, I still maintain that there's no damn way this is legal: Not only does the bill prevent women from joining with Selective Service, it strips the Supreme Court of the authority over this particular area and stipulates decisions on the draft rest solely in the hands of Congress. Edit: For anyone interested, Rubio now claims that he still thinks women should register for selective service, but that he wants to pass t…
/r/MensRights11/02/16 09:24 PM
13

Wow, actual prison time? And the article called it rape? I'm shocked... “We felt a state prison sentence was appropriate in this case,” Norfolk District Attorney Michael W. Morrissey said after the plea. “We were ready to go to trial. I am relieved for the victim in this case that the convictions were secured without needing to testify at trial.” I like this guy.
/r/MensRights11/02/16 01:52 AM
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I know I've been posting a lot about this lately, so sorry to anyone who keeps seeing these threads and isn't interested, but I think it's important to know which politicians side with us on this, and which don't. Helps to get some idea how likely this change is to happen and maybe something to consider when voting on senators next election. As the head of the senate armed services committee I think it's a pretty big deal that McCain is in favor of adding women to selective service, though. Hone…
/r/MensRights10/02/16 08:30 PM
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No, because they're usually in prison.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 08:26 PM
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Not quite sure what this would do given that women are already banned from the draft...he says he wants it to stop the courts from intervening, but I don't see how it would impact that at all. Still frustrating to see another politician going with the "I don't want to see my precious 15 year old daughter drafted" while being perfectly okay with throwing away other people's sons like trash.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 06:08 PM
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I wonder how long her probation will be.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 05:41 PM
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But wouldn't all those same benefits apply to men as well? Regardless, what's most important is that this is substantial punishment. 12 years or 25 years doesn't really make a huge difference in terms of a deterrent or giving the victim a sense of justice, but they're both hugely different from probation or 2 months in jail.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 05:37 PM
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I promise you if she was more attractive or it wasn't sodomy she would have gotten off. "Sodomy" can also mean oral sex. I don't know which one it was here. Also please dont use sexual assault. It's so generic and explains nothing. I didn't do that, the article did. And while I agree it's not very descriptive, at least they didn't call it an inappropriate relationship.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 04:42 AM
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It's nice to see a victim of this sort of crime get justice for once, so I just thought I'd share.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 12:56 AM
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I know I posted a similar story yesterday but I think it's important to keep updated on who supports supports this cause and who opposes it. From a quick glance it seems that she is also on the Senate Armed Services Committee, which means of the 26 members on that committee (list) we have 3 that so far have come out in support of drafting women: Kelly Ayotte (R), Kirsten Gillibrand (D), Claire McCaskill (D). Also, Richard Blumenthal (D) said he was "open" to requiring women to be drafted, and Jo…
/r/MensRights09/02/16 10:26 PM
1

The only time I've ever seen the phrase "it takes two to tango" is when people are trying to excuse the behavior of a female rapist or child molester.
/r/MensRights09/02/16 05:02 AM
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He was replying to Rubio, Christie, and Bush, who all said that they believe women should register at the last debate. I don't know about Trump or Sanders. Clinton dodged the question when she was asked recently, but supported registering women in 2008.
/r/MensRights09/02/16 02:21 AM
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The funny thing is, women are safe from the law even if they are guilty and admit to horrible sex crimes.
/r/MensRights09/02/16 01:31 AM
3

Good. Though I doubt very much Trump would be any better.
/r/MensRights07/02/16 11:34 PM
1

At the time of the passage of the 14th amendment there were laws outlawing gay sex in many states. Those were ruled a violation much much later on (in the 2000s I think) and clearly the people who wrote the 14th amendment had no intention of it impacting their gay sex laws. Or look at the amendment on cruel and unusual punishment. When the Bill of Rights was ratified, they executed tons of people, of all ages, for all sorts of crimes. We've since decided that this amendment means executing minor…
/r/MensRights07/02/16 09:41 PM
1

Except that people generally interpret the Constitution as written, not as the writers intended it to be read. Are you seriously going to tell me that "equal protection under the law", designed to cover freed slaves, was thought by the writers to cover marriage equality?
/r/MensRights07/02/16 09:26 PM
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I think if we can't get enough volunteers, our country is not worth defending.
/r/MensRights07/02/16 02:06 PM
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Constitution says they have the power to raise an army, not forcibly enlist people. It bans forced labor, except for convicted criminals, directly though. The courts are known for ignoring the constitution and doing what they want anyway though.
/r/MensRights07/02/16 02:05 PM
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That's (in my opinion) the right answer. No one should be drafted because it's illegal and unconstitutional, but if men must register then women should too.
/r/MensRights07/02/16 04:45 AM
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Six years in jail is an eternity for a woman who does this. To be fair, anything more than probation is highly unusual. Her sentence was fair, I think.
/r/MensRights07/02/16 04:44 AM
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These sorts of lawsuits are almost as important as prosecuting the women involved. For a long time we didn't hear so many cases of boys being victimized because people who learned about it would just laugh it off. Making it clear that this is abuse and if you hear about it you are responsible for reporting it is huge to bring more of these cases to light. There are some weird issues about whether this constitutes discussions "between priest and penitent in a sacramental confession" (an exception…
/r/MensRights07/02/16 12:46 AM
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Fair point. I suppose the problem is, when asked specifically about rapists, most feminists will agree. But they still support broad policies to help eliminate prison for women, which then end up being applied to rapists anyway. It's very frustrating. Thanks for taking the time to discuss this though.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 09:43 PM
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Here is Scotland's proposal to tear down all women's prisons and replace them with a single "community" alternative housing around 80 offenders while trying to move more towards non-custodial sentences for everyone else. For the entire country there will only be room for 80 women. That will barely handle all the vicious sociopaths and murderers, much less rapists and molesters. They will, and are, being let free (Just last week in Scotland a grown women who pretended to be 15 to molest four diff…
/r/MensRights06/02/16 09:18 PM
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I dont think we will ever achieve equal rights, so holding out for that is wishful thinking. I agree (obviously), but unfortunately some do not. I dont think it is a "vulnerability" thing. Statistically speaking, adolescent males commit the most crimes, violent and otherwise. So, although I dont agree with it, I believe the logic is that by keeping out young men, they will reduce the crimes committed by refugees. The "vulnerability" is how they describe it. They allow in gay men and men that are…
/r/MensRights06/02/16 08:53 PM
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There are three main issues that I have that I feel make me an MRA. I'd be interested in your opinion on them. Selective service - you've linked to a discussion on this here, but I've seen many women / feminists argue that women shouldn't be required to register until they have equal rights in the rest of society. How do you feel about this argument? Refugees / aid - Canada's prime minister is renowned for his views on gender equality, and yet has still limited his refugee program to women and c…
/r/MensRights06/02/16 07:14 PM
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Do you see how you've mentally categorized them differently? How all that had to happen for you to do that was for the charge to be laid? That immediate stigma that has you perfectly OK with publicizing the accused, but not publicizing the victim, is precisely why the accused needs anonymity, too. Presumably there needs to be some semblance of evidence before a person is arrested. Though I don't necessarily disagree with name suppression until found guilty.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 06:55 PM
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Single mothers need to be forced to allow the father to help raise the kid. She's not responsible enough to do it on her own. She probably has the mental age of a teenager, as feminism has demonstrated. Um, what? I have to go with no.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 06:26 PM
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As far as I can tell he's been arrested by the actual police, not some internal kangaroo court investigation board. Presumably they had cause to arrest him and they always release images of adult suspects that have been arrested, for any crime, to the media. Also, of course the victim should be anonymous. Why wouldn't they be?
/r/MensRights06/02/16 03:41 PM
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Completely agree. When you have "you can plead guilty and get probation or go to trial and risk 20 years in prison" even an innocent person would consider taking the plea deal. Just have a guilty plea factored into the final sentence as a mitigating factor that takes 20% or so off the sentence. No pre-agreed upon sentences. It's just stupid.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 03:27 PM
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I think it would be unlikely that enough Representatives or Senators would care enough about changing the SS law to go to the mat for the gender exclusivity and vote against the NDAA for that reason. That makes sense. I was worried a lot of them (especially Republicans) would see a bill dedicated entirely to registering women, see it as career suicide to support it, and just vote against it for that reason. But if it's packaged in with a lot of other stuff they'll be less likely to make a fuss I…
/r/MensRights06/02/16 04:02 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it would seem like this actually makes it more likely to pass than if they had to vote on the bill directly. If the Armed Services Committee agree, it's unlikely that enough people would vote against the whole bill because of that one section (at least it seems that way to me). Do you have any idea where this would put this bill recently proposed to change this legislation? Will that be referred to the Armed Services Committee, or voted on separately? By the way, tha…
/r/MensRights06/02/16 01:54 AM
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Interesting article...These guys are on the Senate armed services committee too. I'm not exactly sure what role that plays in the legislative process, but the article seems to imply that this gives them some more influence over this decision.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 12:32 AM
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Sure, but the old charge (criminal sexual contact of a minor) would still, I assume, apply in these cases. I can easily see prosecutors just choosing to charge them with both and then drop the new charges in plea deals every time when the perpetrator is a woman and instead sentence them to probation on the old charge, while using the new laws to send men to prison for years. If they actually apply it evenly, I support this. If the prosecutors apply biased discretion, which I suspect they might, …
/r/MensRights05/02/16 11:40 PM
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Curious what people think of this. On the one hand, as things stand it seems to generally be that female teachers get off very easily and male teachers are punished harshly, and this bill supposedly adds a mandatory minimum of 3 years in prison that might help alleviate that. But, on the other hand, it seems very plausible that it provides loopholes that will let female teachers avoid the prison time anyway and only actually be used to give harsher punishments for male teachers.
/r/MensRights05/02/16 11:02 PM
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This bill is bullshit started by conservative assholes to make sure that women don't end up being registered. The people who proposed it themselves admitted they likely would vote against it. They subverted any honest attempt to get women to register by beating them to the punch and giving the bill an emotionally charged name, then basically saying "Anyone who supports sending our women to die had better make that known before next election by voting on our bill". The chances would probably have…
/r/MensRights05/02/16 09:14 PM
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Because they are accusing Obama of opening combat to women without considering the consequences and this is their way to force America to have an "honest" discussion about what this means. Also, they get to name it the "draft our daughters" bill which is a pretty negative-sounding name which probably won't help it get votes. If they'd waited someone who supported it might have introduced a bill called "selective service equality" bill or some such that is much more benign-sounding.
/r/MensRights05/02/16 03:09 PM
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My understanding of this was that she expected he was going to report her, and thought maybe she could help herself look like the victim by reporting him first. Like you said, it's completely absurd otherwise.
/r/MensRights04/02/16 11:25 PM
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It seems to me like the lower courts at least would be likely to rule against selective service, but none of that really matters because it will end up in front of SCOTUS anyway. I don't know what logic they would have for ruling in favor of it either, to be honest. The old logic, ineligibility for combat roles, is gone. The top generals have come out in favor of drafting women, so I can't see an argument that they wouldn't be useful. Maybe something about pregnancy? I don't know, that's horribl…
/r/MensRights04/02/16 10:02 PM
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I mean, they have two courses of action. There will be votes on this bill. If it passes, women have to register and that's the end of that. Otherwise, it goes to the courts and they decide whether not registering women is constitutional. If they decide it isn't, then there's nothing lawmakers can do. So, in effect, we get two chances here before the issue fades back into oblivion for another 3 decades. It's just unfortunate that we got conservative assholes proposing a bill called the "draft our…
/r/MensRights04/02/16 09:41 PM
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She effectively dodged the question while coming very close to saying she believes that only men should be drafted, and providing no justification. Hopefully someone will ask this question again at the debate tonight and get a clarified opinion (it would be nice to know what Bernie thinks as well). Also relevant is that in a 2008 debate she was in favor of requiring women to register.
/r/MensRights04/02/16 04:26 PM
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It wasn't even really radical though. She more or less straight-up refused to take a stance, while hinting that she didn't really see the need for it.
/r/MensRights04/02/16 07:42 AM
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Me too. Because it's just so horrible. These kids are getting raped, abused, self-harming and attempting suicide, needing years of therapy to put themselves back together...and people just don't give a shit. Either they joke about it, or acknowledge that it was bad for the kid but somehow still see the rapist as a victim too. We've created a culture where it is socially acceptable for women to prey on underage boys, and that's what's so sad. There are a number of ways to fix this, and this artic…
/r/MensRights04/02/16 04:23 AM
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Hillary Clinton just all-but said a few minutes ago she opposes drafting women too (what she actually said was something to the effect of "I would need more information about WHY the generals suggested this before making a decision"). Which is weird, because it's a flip-flop from her opinion in 2008 when she supported registering women.
/r/MensRights04/02/16 04:16 AM
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And when you take into account that the overwhelming majority of those labeled children are actually teenage boys, it gets even worse.
/r/MensRights04/02/16 04:14 AM
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The fucking irony of including this expert quote in an article titled "Diane Day, 50, of Homosassa, is accused of having a sexual relationship with a teen for one year" is just too great: "When they talk about sex offenses involving older females and younger males they usually talk about it in terms of a relationship, they had a sexual relationship. If they talk about a man sexually abusing a younger female they don't even talk about it in terms of relationship at all," Travis explained. Also, o…
/r/MensRights04/02/16 01:58 AM
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She had sex with him. You can google her name to find earlier articles where she was arrested. She was charged with a whole host of sex abuse crimes that would have put her away for decades, but as is par for the course for women, they dropped them all but the least serious in a plea deal and then gave her probation.
/r/MensRights03/02/16 10:20 PM
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It's amazing to me that 15 year old boys who get caught sexting their classmates get punished more harshly than 40 year old women sexting children. It's honestly disgusting how society enables this type of behavior in women.
/r/MensRights03/02/16 09:08 PM
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Usually at least one case per day, sometimes 2 or 3. Almost all get away with it - every week or so one with a particularly heinous case will get a few years. There are more cases with men, but almost all of them get many years in prison.
/r/MensRights03/02/16 06:01 PM
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Before handing out Pritchard’s sentence Fourth Judicial District Judge Kathleen Kilnoski reminded Pritchard that the age of consent in Iowa is 16. “He’s just a teen boy. Even if in your mind he was consenting, you should not have put in a position where he has to tell you no,” Kilnoski said. Looks like if you're a woman who intentionally ignores the age of consent, your only punishment is to be "reminded" that it exists. It's honestly disgusting how this keeps happening, over and over. The age o…
/r/MensRights03/02/16 04:55 PM
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Yes, selective service is in effect "registering for the draft", even if no draft exists right now.
/r/MensRights03/02/16 02:42 PM
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Counterargument: The draft will never end as long as it applies only to men, because no one gives two shits what happens to men. You might get some sympathy if you're an old man, or a father or husband, or a teenager younger than 18, but as far as single men between the ages of 18-26, they are completely disposable in the eyes of society. If they complain, they are told to man up and get over it. Their voices opposing the draft will be drowned out by the legions of parents, elderly, and women wh…
/r/MensRights03/02/16 03:50 AM
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This argument doesn't really make sense to me. If there are 100 front line positions and 100 support positions needed, in your example there will be 100 men on the front lines regardless. The only difference is whether we also need to draft 100 men to do non-combat roles or whether we can have women do that and let those other men get on with their lives.
/r/MensRights03/02/16 03:14 AM
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Terry O’Neill, president of the National Organization for Women, said that, although the organization does not believe in a draft, it supports equal treatment for women, meaning they should required to register. “We don’t think women should be exempt from the draft any more than they should be exempt from combat roles,” she said. From 2 days ago. Although there will certainly be feminists (and others) who oppose this for bullshit reasons.
/r/MensRights03/02/16 03:12 AM
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Interesting discussion about the double standard between male and female teachers who abuse students. The one woman who defends these teachers seriously pisses me off, but the rest of them make some pretty excellent points.
/r/MensRights02/02/16 10:01 PM
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This doesn't seem to rule that gender quotas are legal, only that this particular guy doesn't have standing to challenge them. In other words, they're putting off a real decision for as long as possible.
/r/MensRights02/02/16 03:08 PM
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Similar to you in that I used to very much believe that men had it better, and still do agree that we do in many ways, except it was when I had to register with selective service that I guess I became an MRA (despite not knowing the term at the time). It hurt and made me feel worthless and disposable.
/r/MensRights02/02/16 02:29 PM
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Child porn laws exist because, by consuming child porn, you create demand and this causes more children to be abused. With older kids who aren't being abused, I suppose the idea would be to help them from having their lives ruined for stupid mistakes made in high school, by being able to (in theory) remove humiliating videos of them that leak online. The notion of "it's just ones and zeros, how can you punish me" itself though is absurd. It's also just manipulating ones and zeros to empty someon…
/r/MensRights02/02/16 01:43 AM
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It might. The other day there was an article where the director of selective service anticipated a 50-50 shot that this goes through. The article also interviewed the leaders of the American Legion and National Organization for Women who were both in support of the change.
/r/MensRights01/02/16 09:09 PM
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Isn't that great? Subtle hint that actually, it's boys' fault that they aren't doing well. If they were just tougher, everything would be fine, right? The evidence suggests that boys from lower income families do worse than those from higher income families. There are a thousand potential reasons I can think of for this that don't amount to boys being weaker. When resources are constrained, families are more likely to provide for their daughters than their sons. In a lot of low-income families, …
/r/MensRights01/02/16 04:32 PM
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Women always get praised when being sentenced as pedophiles and child molesters. Plus lots and lots of sympathy. Here's another from the UK: Jailing her for three-and-a-half years, he said: “She seems to have been a very good grandmother. It’s a great pity.” Source
/r/MensRights01/02/16 04:24 PM
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Look at any comment section on some article about a woman committing statutory rape (with a teenager, not an infant). The comments joking about it tend to be, although not exclusively, from men. Also there is some evidence to suggest that female judges and prosecutors are more likely to take these cases seriously than men do, although again there are exceptions.
/r/MensRights31/01/16 03:57 PM
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I'm not the one who is tainting it. That would be the feminists who argue that women shouldn't go to jail. I didn't make them up, they exist.
/r/MensRights31/01/16 03:55 PM
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The prosecution can appeal the sentence if thy believe it was outside the sentencing guidelines. They can do this in certain situations in the US too.
/r/MensRights31/01/16 03:50 PM
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AFAIK New Zealand does not even have a sex offender registry. Here is an article from a few months ago discussing plans to add one, but I don't think it's been implemented yet. I have no idea why that article is talking about the fact that she doesn't have to register like it's a surprise. I agree with the rest of the post though. Edit: Here is an article about another NZ woman facing the same charge who actually had a halfway decent judge and a reasonable punishment (10.5 years, although she wo…
/r/MensRights31/01/16 05:58 AM
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I'm optimistic too, but I'm not sure how much that really matters. They're only ruling right now on whether the case is "ripe" and whether the NCFM has standing...even if they rule in favor of the NCFM (and it sort of looked like they would), all that would happen is that they would send it back to district court for consideration. I guess maybe after the district court it would be appealed back to them and then their opinions might matter? Still though, when this case was last brought up in the…
/r/MensRights31/01/16 04:47 AM
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Most feminists do care, I agree. In fact, when it comes to female-on-male rape, it's typically the feminists / women who are the ones caring, and the men who are making sick jokes (although the sick jokes usually involve cases with teenagers, I dunno about a 1-year old). Regardless, feminists have some responsibility for what happened here (the sentencing, not the rape). Feminists in countries like New Zealand have been fighting for ages to tear down all women's prisons and instead use alternati…
/r/MensRights31/01/16 04:02 AM
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http://www.thepetitionsite.com/106/766/434/krystal-harvey-should-go-to-prison/
/r/MensRights31/01/16 02:18 AM
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The director of selective service says he thinks it's 50-50 that Congress will pass it. Add that to the chances of the Supreme Court ruling it violates equal protection as is and I think we've got a real shot at changing this in the next few years.
/r/MensRights31/01/16 12:53 AM
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I'm...confused.
/r/MensRights30/01/16 07:11 PM
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To be honest I really don't think anyone was expecting her to go to jail, and I don't believe a man would have gone to jail for misdemeanor assault either. What she really needs to be is fired.
/r/MensRights30/01/16 07:10 PM
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The judge was actually a woman here. And honestly I don't know how much of a choice she had. As far as I know Scotland's feminists convinced them to tear down every women's prison and now women cannot be jailed for pretty much any offense. And still they insist that this is equality. What's scary is this woman was ruled high risk to reoffend. She almost certainly will do this again. And still no one cares. They're willing to sacrifice the next boy she molests in order to avoid having a woman in …
/r/MensRights30/01/16 02:18 AM
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This is probably the most disgusting one I've seen yet, although it should come as little surprise given that feminists in Scotland have succeeded in tearing down women's prisons. She pretended to be 15 so she could meet 4 young boys, the youngest being 10, and engage in sexual activity with (molest) them. She was caught, released, and then caught again days later still contacting them. She pleaded not guilty, put the boys through the humiliation of a trial, and showed no remorse. She is deemed …
/r/MensRights30/01/16 01:52 AM
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Some interesting facts here...first, the victims were girls as opposed to boys. Second, 18 months is a hell of a lot better than a suspended sentence, but whether that's because of the judge or the fact that the victims were girls instead of boys or the fact that we're making progress is hard to tell. But the fact that the sentence was still so incredibly lenient, and the judge goes to great lengths to describe her as a victim is what's frustrating. He calls her "weak and indulgent", says that i…
/r/MensRights29/01/16 06:48 PM
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Maybe Obama should also propose a new rule to examine gender sentencing inequality. Some how, I don't think that would ever happen.
/r/MensRights29/01/16 04:47 PM
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Among high school students, 4 percent of boys and 10 percent of girls say they have been forced to have sexual intercourse against their will, according to a 2013 survey by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. I admit it's disappointing they don't mention examples of boys being victimized, but they do at least bring up a statistic saying boys can be raped.
/r/MensRights29/01/16 04:35 AM
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You can see my response to explicitlarynx above. She originally took a plea deal for only 9 months but blew it when she threatened to kill one of her victims for talking to the police while out on bail. Like 90% of female predators, she was given an extraordinarily lenient deal. This one is only noteworthy because she screwed it up.
/r/MensRights29/01/16 01:04 AM
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Nowhere, because girls always matter more than boys. We need barbies of all different shapes and sizes to boost girl's self esteem, which is worth more than the sexual fantasy of boys (I'm okay with this). But we also need "perfect" kens because we need to give women and girls their sexual fantasy, which is worth infinitely more than the self-esteem of boys. Hypocrisy, but one that is just accepted by our society. It's why we see all these stories of female rapists, abusers, and child molesters …
/r/MensRights29/01/16 12:58 AM
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Sort of good. She groomed 2 different boys and had sex with one of them many times, but still was going to only get 9 months in jail through a plea deal. But while out on bond, she ran into the younger victim and threatened to kill him for talking to the authorities, got arrested again, and the judge gave her 5 years. Plus she'll only be a registered sex offender for 10 years. I have no problems with a 5 year sentence, but she never should have gotten a plea deal for 9 months with two victims as…
/r/MensRights28/01/16 11:43 PM
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It's actually almost worse. She was charged with sexual violation, described here. The sentencing guideline: Everyone who commits sexual violation is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 20 years. A person convicted of sexual violation must be sentenced to imprisonment, unless the court instructs otherwise due to the particular circumstances of that case. The "particular circumstances" according to the judge were that she had a hard time in foster care as a kid. But we all know that t…
/r/MensRights28/01/16 03:00 PM
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You could sign then: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/106/766/434/krystal-harvey-should-go-to-prison/
/r/MensRights28/01/16 01:32 AM
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I posted this article from Salon a few months ago when it came out that does talk about female-on-male rape. Here's a quote from the article: The story goes on to detail what prosecutor Hannah Squire told the court happened between the now 21 year-old Jade Hatt and the child last November. It’s incredibly upsetting and disturbing stuff. Squire said that Hatt “sat on top of him, sat astride him, took off her clothes and removed his. In his words she started bouncing on his private parts. Sexual i…
/r/MensRights28/01/16 01:30 AM
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Apparently he's still going through the court system.
/r/MensRights28/01/16 12:46 AM
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That's fine. I didn't want to archive it because I feel like there's no reason not to reward a site for writing good articles about issues men face.
/r/MensRights27/01/16 10:30 PM
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I understand people might not be too happy about the source (Salon), but I still think this is a great article worth reading.
/r/MensRights27/01/16 07:38 PM
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But sexual violation or whatever it's called has the same sentencing guidelines as rape I think, right? I remember the last case like this in NZ with a teacher and young student the judge said something to the effect of "colloquially we could say that what happened was rape, even though the law doesn't"
/r/MensRights27/01/16 02:11 PM
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Despite the prosecutors mentioning that the starting point for the crime she was convicted of was 7 years in prison, she managed to avoid jail altogether and instead got house arrest and community service. It would be great if people here, particular those from New Zealand, could help by signing the petition to show support for her victim.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 11:48 PM
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The vast majority of juvenile prisoners are boys, and prison abuse is definitely one of the biggest abuses men and boys face today (in the US at least), so this seems pretty relevant to me.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 10:37 PM
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Believe it or not, more women judges / prosecutors helps with this. Not all the time, but frequently they tend to take these cases more seriously than men do. Also just raising awareness, I think. Especially in the UK where you can report these sentences as unduly lenient and get them overturned (this happened 4 times last year). When you see reporting like "woman arrested for inappropriate relationship with 10 year old boy", look for a different article by the same paper involving a man who fac…
/r/MensRights26/01/16 08:51 PM
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Ah that makes sense.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 12:55 PM
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I'm fairly certain "selective service" is a name specific to the US.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 12:38 PM
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True. I guess what I'm saying is that feminists at least tend to express some concern for the victims and not laugh in their faces. The problem is that a lot of them also believe that women are always victims of something or other and should not go to prison no matter what they do.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 05:37 AM
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I appreciate that at least we seem to be on the right side of political correctness with this one. Feminists and the like do tend to agree that statutory rape of boys is bad. Sometimes they also argue that, as bad as it is, the rapists still shouldn't go to jail if they happen to be women, but at least they take it seriously.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 04:41 AM
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It doesn't get much worse than this... a middle school teacher, for fuck's sake, and a serial predator (with at least 3 victims). Yet still, virtually no punishment. It's amazing how great it must be to be a woman pedophile. Free to do whatever you'd like to your victims with full knowledge that you're above the law. At least she will get something, even if she only spends a few months behind bars...
/r/MensRights26/01/16 01:51 AM
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True, but there also has to be some level of punishment, even if she (hypothetically) weren't a threat. Otherwise, where is the deterrent? What's to stop female pedophiles from raping babies knowing that they can't be punished for it?
/r/MensRights25/01/16 03:42 PM
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He said she needed psychological rehabilitation, which was best undertaken within the community. She molested a one year old. A one year old. And got off scot-free because of this bullshit. No punishment. No consequences. The prosecution might as well have just dropped all charges. It's amazing that they will try to send a man to prison for arguing with a feminist online but a woman can literally rape a one year old and not get in any trouble. When male pedophiles molest 1 year olds, or hell eve…
/r/MensRights25/01/16 03:11 PM
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It’s a long-term problem in Yemen. In Yemeni culture, it’s considered that you come into manhood at the age of 14 or 15 years old, and part of being a man is taking up a weapon. They do say this, which I think pretty much confirms your assumption. At least people are attempting to do something about this, although it's pretty heinous and I think it's something more attention should be given towards.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 08:40 PM
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He was also, you know, a sadistic murderer. I'm not sure if her claim that this was gender bias has any validity, but it seems like it might. It seems to me that police would be far more concerned with a parent reporting someone stalking their daughter online than they would their son. In this case, it cost that kid his life. People might not be eager to believe that an 18 year old boy is manipulating or abusing a 14 year old boy, but you can bet they would believe that an 18 year old boy was ab…
/r/MensRights23/01/16 06:18 PM
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It doesn't usually make a difference. There are examples all the time when the male victim is horrified by the abuse and it still doesn't make a difference. In the Molly Shattuck case, for instance, the victim and his parents begged for her to go to prison, saying something to the effect of "anyone who rapes a child needs to go to prison", but the judge felt "sorry" for her anyway and gave her probation. Or in this case, one of the more appalling ones, where a woman admitted to using a 15 year o…
/r/MensRights21/01/16 08:07 PM
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Yeah, Jared Fogle was a bad example because what he did was much more horrible than most of the women, but you brought him up. Take, for a recent example, this guy. A 23 year old teacher who had (otherwise consensual) sex with his 14 year old student. Despite pleading guilty, he got 20-30 years in prison.
/r/MensRights21/01/16 05:59 PM
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Jared Fogle took a plea deal too, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. It's just that his was for 10+ years in prison.
/r/MensRights21/01/16 04:30 PM
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Because men who have sex with young girls never confess to it. That's the problem. You only get a plea deal if you confess your entire involvement in a case. Men take plea deals all the time. It's just that their plea deals are for years in prison because that's the best the state will offer. No it didn't. It said she is serving 10 years term for each crime which amounts to 20 years altogether (First source). 10 years of probation.
/r/MensRights21/01/16 03:20 AM
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10-year term each on charges of aggravated sexual assault 10 year term of probation. She will not serve any jail time. How is this statutory rape? A Muslim dude did that in Toronto to a girl student over THREE YEARS and got ZERO SENTENCE. Fine. If you let me go back another month or so I can find more full-blown statutory rape cases. You can't find one. She served almost one year in jail Umm...She served 115 days, not even half a year. She was sentenced to 180 days, but allowed to leave early du…
/r/MensRights21/01/16 12:11 AM
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He was 12 years old for god's sake. She deserves years in prison, just like men who do this. Still, she'll probably get a tearful apology and probation.
/r/MensRights21/01/16 12:00 AM
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According to the article, up to 20 years.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 11:58 PM
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One - the student was 15 Two - the student was 13. Three - not a teacher but a babysitter (which is almost worse). The boy was under 16, and considering that he needed a babysitter, probably much younger. There was another teacher that had sex with three boys (2 were 16 and one was 15) who received probation as well, but I can't find it so I linked the babysitter one instead.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 11:49 PM
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Well, because if they'd had sex, that would be a criminal charge. Doing a stupid thing that violates the terms of your employment is not criminal, but results in getting fired. It's pretty simple.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 11:43 PM
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My belief that she should be banned from teaching has nothing to do with whether a crime has been committed or not. I'm simply saying that teachers should not be allowed to sleep in a hotel room, alone, with their students.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 10:58 PM
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That's not really true. There are plenty of cases, as I've said, of female teachers who abuse 15 year old, or younger, children. As I've said, at least 3 so far in 2016. I restricted the age there precisely because that is pedophilia. Yet still, these women receive suspended sentences and probation. I can find 3 examples of female teachers in 2016 who had sex with students 15 or younger and did not go to jail. Can you find one of a male in the same situation?
/r/MensRights20/01/16 10:46 PM
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If you can't see the difference between being 40 feet away in the classroom and spending a night alone in a hotel room, I don't know what to say.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 10:43 PM
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I said I'm in favor of NOT charging her with a crime, as there is no evidence. I believe offenses such as sharing a hotel room with students should be grounds for having your teaching license permanently revoked, whether or not anything else happened.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 10:27 PM
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I think it's fairly obvious why it's a bad idea for a teacher to share a hotel room, alone, with an underage student. There's no good reason for that. It's possible he was drunk and she didn't want him driving home or something, and just made a very very bad judgement error. More likely that her motives were less pure and the kid is just keeping quiet to protect her. Either way, without evidence she can't be charged I suppose. Although I would support a permanent ban from teaching for infraction…
/r/MensRights20/01/16 10:15 PM
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It's amazing. Clearly, she doesn't have even an ounce of remorse for what she's done. She doesn't seem to have any mental illness. No mitigating factors that I can see. What in the hell was the prosecutor's justification for giving her probation for a crime that carries a sentence of up to 20 years? If you're walking out of court after pleading guilty still feeling like you've done nothing wrong, the court system has failed.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 06:41 PM
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There are biases against men in their respective countries. You can't compare a sentence in Canada with one in the US. In Canada the vast majority of women convicted of these offenses never spend a second in jail, so yes, one year is a lot. One woman, once, got 20 years in prison. And she had sex with 3 high school students and tried to have sex with a middle school student too. Women every day are getting probation for this. I'm going to challenge you to find, in 2016, an example (in the US) of…
/r/MensRights20/01/16 06:35 PM
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He served jail time though. And your cases stretch back to 2012. I'm not saying there aren't men who get lenient sentences, nor that there aren't women who get harsh sentences, but the majority of men get harsh sentences and the majority of women get very lenient sentences. I also did not blame it on feminism. In fact there is some evidence to show that female judges and prosecutors help to work against this bias by giving female sex offenders much harsher sentences than male judges do.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 05:13 PM
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That is true, but men still face serious sentences for statutory rape while women do not.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 05:12 PM
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When did these things happen though? These are single instances that may have happened months or years ago. In order to even things out, we can consider only students less than 16 years old. The unfortunate reality is that the vast majority of men that sexually abuse students, or children in general, in this age range will go to prison, for a long, long time. The vast majority of women that do it will not. Of the ~15 women sentenced for these crimes so far this year, only 2 received 18 months ja…
/r/MensRights20/01/16 03:56 PM
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What about to make her victims feel like they matter? What about for a benefit to the victim? Especially for heinous crimes. Rape is the best example. It's interesting that when a man is a rapist, no one is interested in what's best for the rapist. But when a women is the rapist, suddenly that becomes the top concern and any thoughts of the victim are completely forgotten.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 03:47 PM
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That was one teacher, once, a few months ago. There are usually around 1-2 female teachers a day that get sentenced for this kind of thing, and the vast majority of them get probation and a suspended sentence, while male teachers get prison. I follow these cases closely enough to know this, but a quick search on the google news tab for "teacher sentenced sex" will show you a lot of men getting years in prison, even if the students are 16 or 17, and a lot of women getting suspended sentences or p…
/r/MensRights20/01/16 05:20 AM
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They are less likely than men to have committed violent offenses and more likely to have been convicted of crimes involving drugs or property. That's because all the women convicted of violent offenses (assault, child molestation, rape, etc) are allowed to walk free with probation and suspended sentences. Here's an idea. Let the women convicted of minor crimes involving drugs and property get the therapy and community support and send the women convicted of violent crimes to prison.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 04:12 AM
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The text I gave was exactly what was quoted in the sentencing guidelines, though. Ellipsis and all. Although the full quote doesn't really change the meaning. That basically says that giving women the same punishments that men receive is "misplaced conception of equality", and somehow this is unfair to women. That in order to be fair to women, they have to be treated differently (more leniently) than men. Basically, if a man rapes a young girl he should go to jail. If a woman rapes a young boy, …
/r/MensRights20/01/16 03:39 AM
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when she gets out of jail She never went to jail!
/r/MensRights20/01/16 03:37 AM
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Which bit that disagrees with me? You mean the ... ? Those were there in the document I was quoting, I didn't take anything out. All I did was draw your attention to the two recommendations that suggest treating women more leniently than men for the purposes of sentencing.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 01:48 AM
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Simply put, a male-ordered world has applied to them its perceptions of the appropriate treatment for male offenders...The criminal justice system could...ask itself whether it is indeed injust to women. In other words, women should not receive the same treatment as male offenders and should, presumably, be treated with more leniency. As for the first recommendation : they mean the "differential impact", in other words these factors supposedly impact women more than they do men and the judges mu…
/r/MensRights20/01/16 01:27 AM
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It instructs judges to consider the different effects incarceration may have on women and consider other non-custodial options first, as pertaining to some UN treaty or other.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 12:50 AM
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Look up "women as offenders" section. https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/11-gender-equality.pdf
/r/MensRights20/01/16 12:37 AM
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Evidence of what, exactly? I'm not arguing that this sentence strays outside acceptable guidelines, I'm arguing that the guidelines are too vague and shouldn't take into account gender.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 11:56 PM
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I know. Can you point to the principle of common law being broken? The fact that the sentencing guidelines advise judges to be more lenient on women than on men is problem enough in itself. Here's a man getting less for a similar offence Did this case involve permanent injury? What's more, the victim is also a man. I was more comparing this to a man viciously attacking a woman and leaving her with permanent damage.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 11:44 PM
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Evidence for this change in the constitution please? This is in the UK. Their sentencing guidelines do specify this. Load of conjecture. Plus if you hang around on Men's Rights you're hardly likely to see "Women receive equivalent sentence to men. Are we wrong?" I do post these occasionally. They're very rare.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 11:13 PM
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Judge Mark S. O’Connor said it is rare that a first-degree felony case does not get a prison sentence but made findings that because of her lack of prior criminal history and the recommendation of the Logan County’s Prosecutor’s Office the sentence was justified. In other words, another case that is "exceptional" just because the criminal is a woman and the victim only a disposable man. The only mitigation they provide is that it was a first offense. Yet I very much doubt a man who tried to murd…
/r/MensRights19/01/16 11:11 PM
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Unless your MP is this guy, in which case it might help quite a bit.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 11:00 PM
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Given that the sentencing guidelines specify giving women more lenient sentences, I don't know that it matters. But I assume that the recommended sentence for stabbing someone's eye out involves some form of custody. I've certainly never seen a case of a man intentionally causing serious, permanent physical damage to a woman and not getting any sort of jail sentence.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 10:55 PM
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You're right, I thought serious assault was there for some reason. I guess not. It should be. The attorney general was considering expanding this program earlier, I hope he goes through with it.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 08:54 PM
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Complain about a low Crown Court sentence
/r/MensRights19/01/16 07:48 PM
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The Court is technically not supposed to expand the boundaries of the law. The most they are supposed to do is rule a law unconstitutional. I.e. a religious person could claim that their 1A right to circumcise girls is unconstitutionally curtailed by a law forbidding the practice. This may be true, but it seems to me that a boy could also sue for damages regarding his circumcision and say that his rights were violated, no? Sex discrimination is technically not unconstitutional. Sort of. Accordin…
/r/MensRights19/01/16 04:05 PM
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America is way different. 15 year old boys are regularly given life in prison (without parole for decades) for murder, and up until a few years ago were even given the death penalty.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 03:25 PM
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Is this something worthy of an equal protection lawsuit? Or are these processes too biologically different?
/r/MensRights19/01/16 04:23 AM
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I'm a bit torn on this one. What's sad is that this man lost 10 years of his life and was actually innocent. Yet had this been reversed, and an 11 year old boy accused his mom of rape, even if they had damning evidence and she admitted to it, she would likely spend less than a year in jail. While a man accused of this is locked up without a second thought even when he's innocent, a woman is allowed to be guilty and STILL get sympathy. All that said, this was an 11 year old girl. The chances that…
/r/MensRights19/01/16 04:22 AM
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Probation and suspended sentence?
/r/MensRights19/01/16 01:45 AM
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The crown opposed bail, arguing Sykes had taken retribution into his own hands. Yes, this is what happens when you let every single woman who molests young boys waltz out of court like they've done nothing wrong. She was bragging about having molested him. If he reported her, you would have found a thousand excuses and given her probation. But because he hit her in retaliation, you try to send him to jail. It's very sad.
/r/MensRights18/01/16 09:19 PM
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He did. He said he was "scarred for life" by the abuse and called the sentence "atrocious". (source)
/r/MensRights17/01/16 04:26 PM
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That's the problem with these revenge porn laws. Feminists fight and fight for these laws (which I have no problem with) but then effectively exempt themselves from them. If you're going to create a new law and send men to jail for it, you can't just say that women should get community service for doing the exact same thing.
/r/MensRights17/01/16 04:24 PM
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What about a 17 year old doing the same thing? Still kind of abuse. I get that you're trying to argue that the cutoff is kind of arbitrary, and I agree, but there has to be a cutoff somewhere. What about a 14 year old doing the same thing? Probably not too bad but shouldn't be much younger than that. Again, see my earlier point. You said, by the way, that they government is taking care of them, and that they aren't in danger of starving, so choosing to get paid to have sex is above and beyond su…
/r/MensRights17/01/16 02:03 AM
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Someone under 18 making money at a job is not inherently bad or evil. A 16 year old working at Mcdonalds after school for pocket money is fine. A 14 year old working long hours every day doing physical labor in fields instead of going to school because he feels that he has to is abuse.
/r/MensRights17/01/16 01:53 AM
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Well, the other side is "gee, I'd pay you what I'd be willing to, but that'd be abuse, so you and your family can starve instead". They're living in a refugee center for children in Finland. They're being cared for by the government and not really in danger of starving to death. I guess it shouldn't really surprise me that you think child labor is okay too.
/r/MensRights17/01/16 01:32 AM
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She was only ever charged with 3 counts (presumably all they could prove). Of course it's low, the judge even said it was because she was a single mother, but imagine you were being sentenced right now. Think about the difference between going home to your family and moving on with your life but spending a few hours over the next few weekends doing community service, or putting the entirety of your life on hold to spend two years in a prison cell. It's massive. One is pretty much getting away wi…
/r/MensRights17/01/16 01:26 AM
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Are you saying that anytime someone goes into prostitution because they are penniless, it is abuse? Yes, if they don't really want to and feel they have no other option, I do believe that. If they're underage it's much worse. What makes sex different from working in the fields all day, or shoe shining for pennies? It's simple. I would consider someone trying to pay a 14 year old refugee to work the fields all day abuse as well.
/r/MensRights17/01/16 01:23 AM
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No, they wouldn't. But in my view the fact that the UK's top appeals court ruled that a jail sentence was needed here makes it a victory anyway. That's happened a lot in the UK recently and hopefully will set some sort of precedent.
/r/MensRights17/01/16 12:00 AM
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The judge said the sentence was "tempered" by her family situation (ie she's a single mother). In my personal opinion that shouldn't be taken into account for serious crimes like child sex abuse, because it does a huge disservice to the victim. At least she got SOMETHING though. 2 years in jail, even if you get out after 1, is still a hell of a lot more severe a punishment than some community service. Shows the victim that he matters and shows other women that this is not something society will …
/r/MensRights16/01/16 11:39 PM
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I'm sorry, it's stupid. I would feel the same way about anyone complaining about giving men hats on father's day.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 09:54 PM
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This story is actually from a few months ago and has an update that's good news. After the initial story came out, the kid went on TV to talk about how sickened he was by the abuse and the fact that she got away with it, and a lot of people here and who heard about it through the news, etc (including an MP) wrote to the attorney general expressing concern. The sentence was ultimately overturned as unduly lenient and she's currently serving a two-year jail term (source)
/r/MensRights16/01/16 09:52 PM
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On Mother's Day though
/r/MensRights16/01/16 09:39 PM
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I'm not "going straight to the race card", nor am I a SJW. You are actually being racist. You want logic? Which of these statements do you disagree with? Assume hypothetically there is a neighborhood of all white people. There is a string of sexual assaults carried out at the pool over a few weeks. The government responds by banning all adult men from the pool and saying it is only for women and children to enjoy in safety. You would disagree with this policy because it unfairly punishes all men…
/r/MensRights16/01/16 06:59 PM
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Says she will have to spend at least 10 years.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 06:49 PM
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On the one hand, 3 years and 8 months seems very low considering there were 4 victims and considerable grooming involved (she took them to Disneyland for fuck's sake). But at least it's not probation.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 06:20 PM
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She has been convicted. She was bailed while awaiting sentence, which is a strong indicator that the sentence will be probation.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 05:15 PM
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a sex-discrimination suit against the Oakland A’s, which Rava claimed violated Unruh by giving out free hats to women on Mother’s Day. Okay, this is fucking stupid. The rest of the article is biased as hell though and it's great that these things are happening. Unfortunately for California women, they can’t even get together to hash out a game plan. Again the hypocrisy. Why can't men get together for a game plan?
/r/MensRights16/01/16 04:59 PM
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Not really. She served 5 years last time for killing her boyfriend, then got out and killed another one and now only gets 12 years? Men who kill their girlfriends would get decades in prison the first time.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 04:43 PM
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At which point she will promptly receive a stern warning not to do it again and be allowed to walk free from court, and the message will be sent to all the other pedophile female teachers that they can feel free to do this to their heart's content without consequence.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 04:40 PM
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They're not going after Finnish boys, they're going after refugees arriving with no money and no resources who will do anything to help bring their families into Europe. It's very clearly abuse, and if they're underage illegal.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 04:37 PM
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Men have been caught doing this everywhere. Looking in America you can see plenty of sexual and physical violence perpetrated by white men. So can we then ban white men too? Or wait, suddenly that's a problem because we're assuming that everyone is a rapist based on the actions of a minority of men. Which is exactly the same thing you're doing with refugees here, but you just think it's okay because they're not white.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 04:36 PM
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Sure he can. But he handled them the way I might expect an angsty teenager to. As an adult you're expected to be able to handle emotional struggles in a more mature way. I'd be saying the same thing about a woman who behaved the way he did.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 04:33 PM
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Wow, she actually got punished for it. I'm glad to see that the victim was taken seriously, even being a man abused by a woman.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 05:21 AM
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I agree. It's pretty disappointing. If this were an article about a German pool banning all men (including white men) from using it due to fear of sexual assaults, even if it was only for an hour a week or so, I have a feeling people would universally agree it was bad. But because we're talking about Muslim immigrants people seem to be totally okay with it, and I think that's a problem.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 03:49 AM
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I was under the impression that she was trained in fighting, albeit not with a lightsaber, prior to the start of the movie. What's more, Kylo Ren is not a master sith or anything, more like a petulant child, so beating him isn't an incredibly impressive feat.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 03:47 AM
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Frankly, I'd draft these young hoodlums into the Free Syrian Army and send them to training camps before arming them and sending them to the front in Syria. That's disgusting. Conscription is pretty much the greatest evil for men's rights and biggest example of male disposability there is. Shouldn't they be given safety from that?
/r/MensRights15/01/16 11:11 PM
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Well, apparently you have an epidemic of middle-aged Finnish women going to asylum centers and targeting underage boys traveling alone by offering to pay them for sex. (source). According to the workers they're trying to teach the boys how to respect women by offering them classes in gender equality and it's totally undermined when the boys start to ask why "women in Finland can kiss me whenever they want". Although perhaps a post on that would have been better.
/r/MensRights15/01/16 07:53 PM
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I mean, this is what happens when you don't punish women for this sort of thing. Other women who are predators realize there are no consequences for their actions and start abusing students as well. This woman is from the same high school where two women were arrested for sexually abusing a student in 2014. They faced zero consequences (no jail time or sex offender registration), and one made headlines for taking a smiling selfie and posting it online as she was walking out of the courtroom. Cle…
/r/MensRights15/01/16 05:15 PM
1

This is not the first time allegations of a sexual relationship between faculty and students at Destrehan High has surfaced. In 2014, two other teachers, Shelley Dufresne and Rachel Respess, were arrested in connection with having sex with students. The incident sparked national attention. So this is at the same high school where two female teachers were arrested only last year for sexually abusing a student. If I remember right they were allowed to plead guilty to a misdemeanor in exchange for …
/r/MensRights15/01/16 04:55 PM
5

We should not slander LGBT community -- many straight parents (mostly mothers) abuse children(mostly boys). If I remember right last time I looked at these statistics they said that most abusive parents were mothers, but that while men were far more likely to abuse boys, women abused boys and girls roughly equally.
/r/MensRights15/01/16 05:18 AM
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I actually looked this up. This happened in Wisconsin, where there is no legal statute called "rape". "Sexual assault of a child", which is what she has been charged with, has multiple levels. There is one level for having sex with someone under 16 using force or threat of force (ie rape), and a different level for otherwise consensual sex with someone under 16. The article doesn't specify which she was charged with, but given that she is also being charged with false imprisonment, I think it's …
/r/MensRights15/01/16 05:15 AM
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I think this is a good case to talk about because it shows that men can be sexually abused by women, even in senses other than just statutory rape. The age difference here (she was 17, he was 14) isn't really too significant, but she is still accused of holding him down and forcibly raping him.
/r/MensRights15/01/16 05:04 AM
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This is the closest thing to statistics on this measure I know of. Apparently, in US schools in 2014, right around 800 school employees were charged with sexual assault, a third of them woman. So where this shock over female perpetrators comes from I don't know. It also provides some (if I remember right admittedly a bit shaky) statistics that show that the number of prosecutions of women for this sort of thing are rising. Of course, that doesn't make a difference if they aren't actually being p…
/r/MensRights15/01/16 01:18 AM
2

I suppose I'm glad she's been given any sort of punishment at all, which is the most important thing. But for preying on two young boys, the youngest being only 13, and inviting them to stay at her house and then getting them drunk for the purpose of sexually assaulting them...18 months still seems very light.
/r/MensRights15/01/16 12:24 AM
1

In the first one, feminists defending excluding men because we are "less vulnerable." This right here is the heart of every men's rights issue. People will look at a situation where 90% of all deaths are male, where militants slaughter all men then line up adolescent boys and slaughter any old enough to have armpit hair, yet somehow miraculously assert that men and boys are not vulnerable. We need to call them on their BS. The stats are on our side. What they really mean is that what happens to …
/r/MensRights15/01/16 12:20 AM
1

Because no one would be willing to risk the safety of a young girl in order to give a male pedophile a hundred chances. It seems a boy's safety, on the other hand, is less important than keeping a female pedophile out of prison at all costs.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 04:47 AM
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Ah, the old "male victims don't matter" or "women criminals are different". Women murderers are magically different from men. Women rapists are magically different from men. Whatever motives men have more frequently are BAD, whatever motives women have more frequently are GOOD.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 12:23 AM
1

I think even you'll have to agree with me on this one. She has targeted and attempted to forcibly abduct little kids. She needs to be in jail.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 12:17 AM
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She even provides examples of men who have had horrible things happen to them, though, and says something to the effect of "do you think America would just accept it if this same thing were to happen to women"? It really seems like male disposability to me.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 05:39 PM
2

That's the part you seemed to be highlighting in your title, though. Which seemed odd to me because it strikes me as anti-men's rights. Some of her other arguments are legitimate issues that will require some thought but I don't think insurmountable ones.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 05:24 PM
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And the people of the US are NOT, based on the Jessica Lynch episode, prepared to treat a female POW the same way they do a man. No, this explains why it's time to get over it. The whole premise of this person's argument is male disposability, that our country is okay with knowing all the horrible tortures that happen to men but the first second these same things happen to a woman we somehow won't be able to handle it. That's not an argument we should be considering as acceptable.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 05:06 PM
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This is truly sick. If you google this woman's name you'll find tons of articles describing her getting dragged to court multiple times in the past few years, always for either attacking / attempting to abduct young children or violating protective orders put in place for previous convictions by being near young children. Yet despite a short few weeks in jail, she has never been sent to prison. Even now, the judge is again considering just putting her back on supervision. Here is an article from…
/r/MensRights11/01/16 06:15 AM
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Truly ridiculous. BAC apparently over the legal limit, driving with a suspended license, driving recklessly, and kills a child, and gets away with barely nothing. Yet, most people will still feel sorry for her. There's no outrage for her like there was when "affluenza" kid got away with it. Her life won't be destroyed by the media following her every move as if she's the most despicable person on the planet. I wonder why.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 05:26 AM
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Low level drug offenders only? Why don't I believe this? I bet it will include everything from assaulting men to molesting boys. The first man that gets rejected should sue. California I think it was had a similar policy that rejected men and got overturned.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 12:45 AM
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Also, gender identity laws directed (largely) towards transgender rights can help. Last month NYC described a new gender equality law, for instance, that bans workplaces from having different dress codes for men and women.
/r/MensRights10/01/16 04:01 AM
3

I miss the progress / good news flairs. Filtering by them was great.
/r/MensRights10/01/16 02:17 AM
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The title implies nothing about gender, and the comparison to the food stamp sentencing was made by the father of the victim. I didn't make it up.
/r/MensRights09/01/16 04:04 AM
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It wasn't cherry picking, nor was it a serious look. It was, as I mentioned, 20 seconds of googling and taking the first few results. I admit it wasn't smart.
/r/MensRights09/01/16 02:27 AM
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Yep, because that's confirmation bias. You literally went and looked for evidence for your point, and surprise surprise, you can find it. Above someone showed you can also find evidence of people not being sentenced. I actually didn't set out to find evidence either way. I googled "sentenced accidental shooting" and posted the results. That doesn't bias the results either way, and I would have posted it if I found other ones resulting in probation. I don't disagree with your post though, and I d…
/r/MensRights09/01/16 02:18 AM
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This is actually a very good point. Despite my follow-up post, my initial posting of this was just to describe the disgusting state of the judicial system and the bias against men - I have nothing really against the sentence of probation for a truly accidental shooting, but in comparison to five years to a man for stealing food stamps...I mean come on. That is truly devaluing the life of the victim.
/r/MensRights09/01/16 02:13 AM
-1

Yeah, I've been realizing I didn't explain this as well as I could have. He was her boyfriend, and he was 26, not a child. Doesn't make it much better though.
/r/MensRights09/01/16 02:11 AM
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Oh I know, I just thought it might be a helpful comparison for people to see. And the sad part was I didn't even have it prepared, it took me all of 2 minutes to search on the google news tab "sentenced accidental shooting" and pick the first few results that came up.
/r/MensRights08/01/16 10:54 PM
55

He wasn't exactly a "kid", as he was 26 years old and her boyfriend. I don't see how they could blame the father for this one, but you never know I suppose.
/r/MensRights08/01/16 10:15 PM
808

Yup. But look at this. If you're a man who accidentally shoots a woman, even if she's not killed or seriously injured, you still go to prison. Or this man who accidentally shot his son while trying to fend off a home invasion and got 4 years. Or this teenager who got 4.5 years in prison for accidentally shooting his friend. Or this teenage boy who got 3 years for accidentally shooting his friend. Or this man who accidentally shot and killed a teenage girl with a gun and now has to spend 13 years…
/r/MensRights08/01/16 09:35 PM
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Request a man every time or refuse service and go someplace else. This is stupid. OP should look for a new doctor because this one isn't being helpful, but that has nothing to do with her gender.
/r/MensRights08/01/16 07:25 PM
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Bristol’s rep David Martin slammed Meyer for seeking child support despite being a decorated member of the Marine Corps that has received the Congressional Medal of Honor. “My values are such that a real American hero doesn’t ask for child support,” said Martin. What the actual fuck?
/r/MensRights08/01/16 04:30 AM
1

Umm...what? This seems like a load of conspiracy crap to me. The best possible connection I can find to men's rights is it shows that there is less of a stigma placed on lesbian women than there is on gay men, so more women are open about this sort of thing.
/r/MensRights08/01/16 03:55 AM
2

This is just horrible. I'm glad they cancelled the season.
/r/MensRights07/01/16 10:16 PM
0

I don't think men are given such lenient plea deals, ever. If you look at men who do take the plea deal it is usually 5ish years in prison. Women, for some reason, always get plea deals for probation. Maybe in that case it's the prosecutors at fault, not the judges.
/r/MensRights07/01/16 10:16 PM
1

But you know that in an identical situation a man would receive years in prison and be called a child molester in the headline of every article, of course. Women should too. Kids should have a right to feel safe in schools. Right now only girls do. It's sad.
/r/MensRights07/01/16 09:20 PM
1

Two 10 year terms of probation. She will not spend a day in jail.
/r/MensRights07/01/16 09:01 PM
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I'd be fine with this if the girl scouts open themselves to boys as well. But they won't. Instead, they'll talk about how girls deserve a space to talk about issues that effect them, etc, away from boys. And then turn around and tell boys that they don't deserve that same space.
/r/MensRights07/01/16 04:33 PM
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It's beyond absurd. If a man said "I knew it was wrong but couldn't stop myself" he would still be in prison. I mean fucking hell. She was on an "ego trip" so that makes it okay? So if a man is on an ego trip and he rapes a bunch of little girls, that's totally okay too? No, I bet instead we'd be hearing about male entitlement and how horrible it is.
/r/MensRights07/01/16 04:28 PM
5

This still makes me mad. She tried to fight it, unfortunately she lost. There's nothing more to be done at this point. What's sad is that, had this been a man and an 11 year old girl, by law this would have automatically been considered rape of a child under 13 and he would without a doubt have gone to prison. Because it's a woman and a boy instead, it's treated as child sex, a lesser offense, and she gets away scot-free. What's more, after sentencing she was blaming the victim, talking about ho…
/r/MensRights07/01/16 03:27 PM
4

Don't you know? Boys were never innocent in the first place. Only women and girls can be innocent. It's sad that boys don't get to be innocent even when they're child rape victims, yet women get to be innocent even when they're child rapists.
/r/MensRights07/01/16 04:14 AM
4

Yeah, it's really disgusting. I started following these cases this spring and it's horrible how frequently they occur and how little prosecutors and judges seem to care about male victims. The vast majority never set foot inside a jail cell. It's not unusual for them to get a few months. Occasionally some get a year or so. But despite there being probably around 100+ cases published since I started looking, I can count on one hand how many received any truly substantial prison sentence. Prosecut…
/r/MensRights06/01/16 10:35 PM
11

I'm literally feeling sick over this. This is the second woman today who admitted abusing a young boy under 16 and received no punishment. (Other one here). We have reached the point where multiple women are being arrested for raping underage boys every day, and yet still almost none face any sort of consequences. What makes this so horrible is that, with this happening on such a wide scale, boys lose the shield of protection from sexual abuse that girls have. A man who considers sexually abusin…
/r/MensRights06/01/16 09:40 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain his accuser was male.
/r/MensRights06/01/16 05:07 PM
2

The fact that they've included sex crimes which suffer from a huge disparity in jail sentence terms and treatment by the courts when it comes to men and women so I wonder if that's not the work of the feminist lobby. I don't think this is the work of the feminist lobby. The article suggests that the person behind this is Jeremy Wright, the UK attorney general. He's used his powers to challenge unduly lenient sentences extensively, and is now seeking to expand them. On the one hand, most of the s…
/r/MensRights06/01/16 05:17 AM
0

I'm curious what people think about this. On the one hand, the vast majority of sentences increased under this scheme are for men (as men generally commit more crimes), and so in that regard it might be considered bad for men (although you could argue that the men who have their sentences increased deserve it). On the other hand, we can use it as a mechanism for appealing disgustingly lenient sentences given to women. The article talks about a recent case like this, but for reference since late …
/r/MensRights06/01/16 03:32 AM
3

Nah, I posted an article yesterday on this exact same case that called it a "steamy threesome". Because, you know, being drugged then raped is totally "steamy".
/r/MensRights06/01/16 03:26 AM
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Ah yes. When men do something wrong, and even when they don't, they're "supressive violent monsters". When women rape little children they're just going through some tough times and we should all be understanding.
/r/MensRights06/01/16 03:26 AM
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At least this article doesn't call it a "steamy threesome"
/r/MensRights05/01/16 10:17 PM
1

Then the courts were referring to underage kids being drugged and raped as a "steamy threesome", which is just as bad.
/r/MensRights05/01/16 03:22 PM
1

I would say anyone under the age of consent is "young". I think the real problem is that the boys were under the age of consent and, according to the article, at least once when the kids said they weren't interested in sex right now she drugged them to get it anyway.
/r/MensRights05/01/16 03:19 PM
4

Nice to see that some of these, at least, are getting overturned after court cases.
/r/MensRights05/01/16 05:43 AM
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For once I agree with you. If a man got a plea bargain like this it would become an international outrage (see affluenza kid).
/r/MensRights05/01/16 03:39 AM
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In other words, the offenses themselves are so serious that $100,000 bail is appropriate (for a man), but because of bullshit like her strong ties to the community and level of education (aka things no one would look twice at if it were a man) she's going to get away with it. Seriously, they should just come out and say that they're reducing the bond because she's a woman. It's frustrating as hell when they come up with these obscure justifications for doing it. You know full well a man who abus…
/r/MensRights05/01/16 12:44 AM
3

Indicators for health without equivalents for men being teen pregnancies and deaths from childbirth, if you read the rest of the paragraph. They're just explaining the technicalities of how they generate a baseline for these two attributes without having similar data from men to refer to.
/r/MensRights05/01/16 12:22 AM
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That's not really what this is saying. What they're saying is that, in general, they compare women's health to a standard of men's health to see how "unequal" things are. Here, they're explaining how they choose the baselines for reproductive health, given that men don't have similar "ratings" in these areas. Basically, they will argue that women are being discriminated against unless there are zero childbirth deaths and zero adolescent pregnancies. That isn't really the problem. The real proble…
/r/MensRights05/01/16 12:08 AM
2

Thanks. I'm just going to upvote secv808's comment this time but I'll definitely make sure to use an archive next time.
/r/MensRights04/01/16 11:58 PM
23

Mr McEntee said: "Sometimes he was tired and did not want to, and on one night she gave him some speed (amphetamine) to keep him awake." From another article on the same topic. Sounds like rape to me.
/r/MensRights04/01/16 11:57 PM
6

Seriously. From another, slightly more appropriately handled, article on the same case: Mr McEntee said: "Sometimes he was tired and did not want to, and on one night she gave him some speed (amphetamine) to keep him awake." For fuck's sake. He didn't even want to have sex on occasion, but she drugged him anyway to get him to. If a man did this to a young girl it would not be called "steamy threesome" but very definitely rape. And he'd be spending years in prison. Edit: Didn't see secv808's comm…
/r/MensRights04/01/16 11:55 PM
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That's a good point. I generally prefer to link to the original sources when posting about these kinds of cases, the idea being that if they get a lot of views they'll keep reporting on this kind of thing and get it more visibility. Here though, you're definitely right. The reporting is disgusting and we shouldn't be giving them reason to continue reporting this way. Would someone mind briefly explaining to me how these archives work? Or if you want repost the article yourself, and I'll delete t…
/r/MensRights04/01/16 11:23 PM
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I understand this is the mirror, the same paper that described that teacher's aide convicted of sexually abusing her student to the point he considered suicide as "glamorous", but this seems like a new low to me. I've never seen them glorify male abusers like this. How are boys supposed to feel safe coming forward with their abuse when the news and society at large will treat it like a joke?
/r/MensRights04/01/16 09:29 PM
2

I don't know, but I really liked the new star wars and thought the gender roles were refreshing.
/r/MensRights04/01/16 09:07 PM
2

I agree. The number of these cases has exploded recently. The question is why. Hopefully because we're being more open about it now. But also, partially I think, because feminism and the women's liberation movement have allowed women to become more independent and forward about sex. In and of itself, there's nothing wrong with this - it's actually progress in my opinion. The problem is that this change, in conjunction with the minority of these women who are predators seeing hundreds of women li…
/r/MensRights04/01/16 07:55 PM
1

I have no problem with the law if they didn't add the little addendum that they suggest police only enforce it against men and ignore accusations against women. If feminists pushed for new laws against abuse that applied equally to men and women, this wouldn't be such an issue. When they push for laws to send men for jail for abuse and then turn around and say that women should receive community sentences for the same crimes it's clear that they just want everything for themselves, not actual eq…
/r/MensRights03/01/16 06:57 AM
2

I don't want to look it up right now because it will make me mad. Try searching "girls count birth registration" or something.
/r/MensRights03/01/16 06:54 AM
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Gender equality is about empowering all women and girls and leaving no one behind What they really mean is "gender equality is about empowering all women and girls and leaving boys behind". As evidenced by the fact that every program they suggest seems to be designed to tackle gender-neutral problems by focusing only on girls, with the vague promise that "this will help boys somehow in the future too". Like when they fought to get birth registration for girls all across the world. They admitted …
/r/MensRights02/01/16 11:09 PM
3

Men being the implied gender isn't totally what causes this though, in my opinion. When I think of men being the implied gender, I think of me assuming that a video game character is a white male until told otherwise, or the lead of an action movie, or something like that. This is something very different. This is the social consensus that the lives of women and children are more valuable than those of men and teenage boys. When the pope says to pray for women and children refugees in 2016, that…
/r/MensRights02/01/16 08:06 PM
11

Whatever happened to equality? I thought "respecting women" was about treating them as equals and respecting their abilities. Apparently it just means treating them like princesses and buying them things. She's brainwashing her little boy into believing that he is not as valuable as a woman, that he does not deserve to be treated or cared for and instead it is his sole job to treat and care for the more deserving gender. That a woman's job is to enjoy life and have fun, and men only exist to hel…
/r/MensRights02/01/16 07:40 PM
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It advises enforcers to "consider the role of gender in the context of power and control" that exists in heterosexual relationships. In other words, we acknowledge that many women are guilty of these crimes as well, so we're going to write the law with gender studies mumbo-jumbo bullshit that basically means "don't use it to prosecute women, only men". This is the heart of the reasons behind why people are frustrated with feminism. Make new laws to send men to jail for doing something to women, …
/r/MensRights02/01/16 08:34 AM
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She was originally charged with a host of serious charges including terroristic threats and involuntary restraint, but of course being a woman whose victim was only a man she was allowed to plead guilty to common assault and avoid punishment almost entirely. She got away with basically no jail time and instead has to take "anger management" classes. Again evidence that boys and men are not treated as valuable by society or the courts. If someone did these horrible things to a woman, they would n…
/r/MensRights31/12/15 10:46 PM
1

I totally agree we need larger pushes in the US too, it's just much harder because we can't actively appeal ridiculously lenient sentences in the US, which are usually final. When a judge in the US ignores sentencing guidelines of 25 years to life and lets a woman walk free for child rape instead, there's nothing to be done. In the UK you can still appeal it.
/r/MensRights31/12/15 06:32 PM
1

I think I remember reading that her first parole hearing was in 2017. She was sentenced this year, so that would be 2 years, give or take. Don't quote me on that though. Either way, a male teacher who had previously abused kids, then been hired and abuses three 16 year old girls, then gone back to continue having sex with them while on bail, would have gotten a hell of a lot longer than 2 years.
/r/MensRights31/12/15 06:30 PM
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Well, presumably the burden of proof would lie on the prosecution. I would hope.
/r/MensRights31/12/15 07:16 AM
2

Something that I think is kind of big is that, thanks largely to this man as well as the UK attorney / solicitor general, not to mention the people all over the world that wrote in with complaints, the UK courts overturned four suspended sentences given to women convicted of sexually abusing boys this year. They were ruled as unduly lenient and replaced with actual jail terms. (one, two, three, four). Prior to 2015 I could find only one other such case, and it happened late 2014. Hopefully these…
/r/MensRights31/12/15 07:08 AM
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I don't see a problem with this change.
/r/MensRights31/12/15 06:40 AM
3

Some of these are valid points, but most apply to race alone and not gender, and the tone is VERY antagonistic. Not to mention, particularly the gender aspect, they are once again cherry-picking. Pick the areas where boys have it better and ignore the areas where they have it worse, pretend like that's the whole picture. For instance, not mentioning that teachers display a bias towards grading girls more leniently starting that early. Why is that not mentioned on the list?
/r/MensRights31/12/15 06:35 AM
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Going to post the same thing I posted on the other one: This is honestly disgusting. She is actually BRAGGING about abusing someone, as if it is something to be proud of. It's up to men to be more careful if they're worried. Isn't this victim blaming? Well above the age of consent and fully versed in the birds and the bees, they're hardly helpless victims. This is the #1 problem men face in the world. People absolutely REFUSE to accept that they might be victims, and therefore feel totally comfo…
/r/MensRights31/12/15 06:32 AM
2

To be perfectly fair, she does say in the article that she has no intention of asking for "financial help", which I presume means child support, from the father. That doesn't mean that knowingly and intentionally manipulating and abusing someone decades younger than you for your own gratification is acceptable though.
/r/MensRights31/12/15 04:51 AM
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This is honestly disgusting. It's up to men to be more careful if they're worried. Isn't this victim blaming? Well above the age of consent and fully versed in the birds and the bees, they're hardly helpless victims. This is the #1 problem men face in the world. People absolutely REFUSE to accept that they might be victims, and therefore feel totally comfortable victimizing men for their own pleasure and benefit because, well, men can't be victims right? Though pretty good evidence for why we ne…
/r/MensRights31/12/15 03:39 AM
10

On letting Jessica free, the judge said: ‘I do so with some reluctance and it is really by the skin of your teeth.’ How is it that every woman who does anything wrong ever, whether it be crying rape or committing rape, walks free "by the skin of their teeth"? If it's always such a close call, why do they never end up swinging the other way? Also, this article is a year old.
/r/MensRights30/12/15 08:38 PM
1

That's a good point. I'm against prison rape, obviously. That said, it depends a good deal on the crime. I'd feel awful for someone caught with pot getting raped in prison, but for someone who tortured and murdered a child...while I would still be against prison rape, I wouldn't exactly feel bad for them. And again, of course there's the issue of age. This kid was 17 - while I would still say this is abusive, he's certainly not a baby. If he was 13 I'd probably have a lot of sympathy for him and…
/r/MensRights24/12/15 04:32 AM
1

I said I don't feel incredibly bad for him. Not that what she did was okay.
/r/MensRights23/12/15 02:23 PM
3

When did I say it's okay?
/r/MensRights23/12/15 05:37 AM
7

While I have to say I don't feel too bad for the kid she was having sex with in this case, if CPS took sexual abuse of boys seriously and actually investigated these reports it's likely those children would still be alive today.
/r/MensRights23/12/15 12:02 AM
3

also people with longer hair are not as hygienic as those with shorter hair. it takes longer to clean / wash / groom, which means you're not going to do it as frequently as someone with short hair. which means dirtier hair that will make it into your food. There is absolutely nothing to stop restaurants from prohibiting long hair. They just can't prohibit long hair for only men.
/r/MensRights22/12/15 09:34 PM
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Unfortunately, the US army announced no such thing. It's "being considered".
/r/MensRights21/12/15 09:01 PM
10

Are you actually getting with these girls? "I can’t really talk about that." Okay...so when this kid basically admits that 20-30 year old woman are molesting him at 13 in an interview, nothing. When he, at 15, tries to have sex with a 12 year old girl, he gets arrested. Sounds fucking fair.
/r/MensRights19/12/15 03:27 AM
11

This was the closest I could find. Girls are raised being told their lives are the most important thing there is and, in a tragedy, they should run away. Boys are raised being told that their lives are worth less than those of girls and, in a tragedy, it is shameful to do anything but die defending girls. It's the other side of patriarchy, the one no one mentions because it hurts men and helps women. This is a pretty good summary of these sickening views.
/r/MensRights19/12/15 03:22 AM
7

No, he says it's a pity that a seemingly good grandmother turned out to be a child sex offender. Oh, I hadn't thought of it like that. I guess that's possible. The reason he said that is because there's a difference between rape and statutory rape. If a young man eagerly has sex with an older women then it's statutory rape. If a young man has unwilling sex with an older women then it's just rape. He didn't say it like that though. She wasn't charged with rape, she was charged with the equivalent…
/r/MensRights18/12/15 08:35 PM
3

Im guessing by this statement he's is quite young (like less than 13) and that if he had been a bit older (say more than 15) this judge would have bee okay with the original lenient judgement. He was 15 at the time (the age of consent in the UK is 16). Presumably he was young-looking for his age? I don't know. It's just sad to me that being "physically well-developed" is apparently grounds for having your sexual abuse not count.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 06:02 PM
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So I'm kind of torn on what the judge said. He did say Guidelines for sentencing sex offenders make no differentiation between male and female abusers, he added. Which is nice. But he also said: “This most emphatically is not the kind of case where the young male victim was physically well-developed and taking advantage of activity with a sexually mature woman,” he continued. The fact that he felt the need to say that is very sad. Also, I doubt anyone would care if a young female victim was "phy…
/r/MensRights18/12/15 05:12 PM
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I know, I mean the judge who was sentencing her even said what she did was so horrible that she deserved to go to jail: Judge Watson told the Grandma: “You deserve to go to prison for what you did, it was not a one off but a string of different sexual acts against him that summer. The very fact that he came forward last year to tell someone tells you it is not something he has been able to leave behind at all.” And then proceeded to...not punish her at all. The appeals court will hear the case t…
/r/MensRights18/12/15 03:38 AM
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I have to say, the current attorney / solicitor general in the UK have been absolutely great about appealing suspended sentences given to women for this sort of thing. They've gotten a lot of them fixed too. Hopefully this one will as well.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 01:49 AM
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I have to say, the current attorney / solicitor general in the UK have been absolutely great about appealing suspended sentences given to women for this sort of thing. They've gotten a lot of them fixed too. Hopefully this one will as well.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 01:44 AM
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I posted an article the other day where, when asked if she took responsibility, she said she placed the blame entirely on the child for coming onto her. Apparently, if you're a woman, saying "he was asking for it" is enough to get out of responsibility for child sex charges. I have a hard time imagining a 46 year old man admitting to sex with a 14 year old girl could be found not guilty, whatever he thought her age was.
/r/MensRights17/12/15 12:58 PM
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She was also originally charged with first degree rape charges, I think. I don't know much about Utah but that does sound more serious than statutory rape to me. Of course, if she were a man, multiple charges of first degree rape with multiple different children would likely have meant years in prison. For her it would have been probation, except that she went back to one of them while on bond so she got 2 years. Disgusting how cheap boys are in the eyes of the law.
/r/MensRights17/12/15 03:10 AM
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Yeah, Utah is kinda fucky. Age of consent is technically 18, but it's legal to have sex with girls (although not boys) who are 16 and 17 years old if you're less than 10 years older than them. The teacher thing is what made it much, much worse. But of course, I searched Utah teacher sex and we find this man, who had sex with a single 17 year old student and got 8 years to life, this teacher who got 20 years to life for sex with a 15 year old student, etc... Yet the woman who has sex with THREE 1…
/r/MensRights17/12/15 12:41 AM
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I am really undecided on this one. I am not located in the US so I don't really have insight but I don't think the state should be held responsible for the actions of an individual as long as it does it's best to prevent this actions. Technically, this is true. They're not trying to hold the state responsible for the actions of the teacher. They're arguing that she left her previous job after being found to have inappropriate relations with students, and the district was aware of this when they …
/r/MensRights17/12/15 12:25 AM
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As far as i can tell that thing grants the school imunity against lawsuits of this kind. Please correct me if I am wrong. That's why their state lawsuit got thrown out. They're trying it in federal court now - I guess trying to argue that a state can't just pass a law making itself immune from Title IX lawsuits. What about the teacher. Did she get punished? Yes, a little. She had sex with 3 underage students and then had sex with one of them again while out on bond after being caught. Despite ha…
/r/MensRights16/12/15 11:37 PM
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This article just talks about how they re-filed the state lawsuit in federal court after it was thrown out in state court because of a Utah law. Here is an article talking about the reasoning behind the lawsuit.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 10:06 PM
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Just from what I've seen on the news and by searching briefly before making that post. Of course it's entirely possible the media disproportionately publishes these stories but regardless the sheer sympathy with which they talk about these women is cause for concern.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 04:21 PM
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If a law is unnecessarily harsh and inhibits the liberty of people we should look at removing them rather than implementing more and more of them. Except I don't tend to view these laws as unnecessarily harsh on their own. Is there a particular law you have in mind? So teaming up with feminism to demand that women be subjected to the same harshness as men is not the best solution I never said team up with feminism. Feminism will never fight to have these laws applied to women. All I said was sto…
/r/MensRights16/12/15 05:05 AM
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See, my problem is with the "effectively used only against men" part. That's the issue. Although I will always fight against introducing new laws as long as they are pushed by feminists who also argue women should never go to jail for anything ever. Fighting to get more and more men in jail while excusing women for the exact same crimes. That's what I can't stand.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 03:02 AM
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This is why we need domestic violence and teen dating violence awareness that acknowledges males can be victims as well as aggressors. Sitting through countless videos telling boys not to abuse their girlfriends leads boys to believe they can't be victims, and girls to believe they can't be abusers. Then incidents like this aren't taken as seriously as they should be.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 08:33 PM
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Isn't it interesting that the vast majority of convictions for revenge porn so far seem to be women? And yet, every single time, they avoid jail. And pretty much every man that I could find (not including minors) convicted of this offense has gotten a jail sentence. This is why we have to be skeptical when feminists introduce new laws. Not because there's anything wrong with a revenge porn law, but because we know that they really only want it to apply to men and will essentially exempt themselv…
/r/MensRights15/12/15 05:31 PM
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Well, see, the problem is that feminism often supports policies such as tearing down all women's prisons and not punishing women for committing even the most heinous of crimes. With the increasing number of cases of women raping young boys, telling boys that they aren't allowed to say no to feminism is equivalent to telling them that they're not allowed to want protection from rape and abuse. That seems rather cruel to me.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 02:08 AM
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It took them over a year to file formal charges, but at least they finally did. The fact that she initially got to plead guilty to sexually abusing a student, then walk free from court taking a big grinning selfie talking about how happy she is and get all sorts of congratulations from her supporters shows that clearly she does not regret what she's done at all. When you can admit to sexually abusing a child and walk free from court not regretting it and instead feeling victorious, that's a huge…
/r/MensRights15/12/15 01:28 AM
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What authoritarian control?
/r/MensRights14/12/15 04:40 PM
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Yup, that's the problem. Not that one pedophile escaped justice, but that the persistent pattern of letting no every woman who does this walk free means that people know this is essentially legal and female pedophiles don't take the law seriously, so boys lose society's protection from abuse.
/r/MensRights14/12/15 04:38 PM
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She won't be. This was the last appeal allowed.
/r/MensRights14/12/15 04:36 PM
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I mean, that's a slippery slope argument. I have no problem with the first being called rape, because it involves threatening to take negative action on the victim unless they provide sex to you. The second one is not, because breaking up with someone is not a negative action taken solely to harm the victim, it's a choice made for your own reasons (ie I'm looking for a sexual relationship and so will break up to find one for my own benefit).
/r/MensRights14/12/15 06:36 AM
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So it should be illegal but not called rape? You're arguing semantics then. Like arguing that extortion (using a threat to take money) should not be called theft (using force to take money) because it's different. So this crime (using a threat to take sex) should not be called rape (using force to take sex), because it's different. Fine. It's usually not, it's usually called sexual assault or institutional sexual assault or sexual abuse or some such. But, colloquially, you can call extortion the…
/r/MensRights14/12/15 06:23 AM
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If she threatened to fail them if they didn't fuck her, then they still made a choice. They could've gone to the dean, they could've let her fail them. They chose to give her what she wanted. They weren't in any physical danger or threat that would cause them bodily harm or death. Stop calling that rape. So there is you saying that it shouldn't be illegal (aka shouldn't be called rape) to threaten to fail a student in exchange for sex.
/r/MensRights14/12/15 06:08 AM
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Who cares? Those capable of seeing the truth of feminism will be able to with us continually exposing them. That's not a lot of people. Or, more accurately, not a lot of people with any power over these issues. Although I did include an item on my list to support the people that are. Except for one item on your list, you're trying to find a way to give men an "in" to victim politics. I don't see how. Progress is actually being made on a lot of these points (excluding perhaps #5 and #6). These ar…
/r/MensRights14/12/15 06:04 AM
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Pity no one ever seems to care about the increasing number of predator female teachers using their middle or high school classes as their "hunting ground".
/r/MensRights14/12/15 05:12 AM
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I didn't say ally with them, just don't necessarily make it a blatant fight against them. Fighting feminism accomplishes nothing except make us look like bad guys, and we'll never succeed, yet there are actual concrete issues we could be working on without looking like bad guys. I even provided a list of some of these issues. I think all of the points I raised would help men and boys directly and explicitly. I don't see how any of those points proposes funneling more money into a "feminist indus…
/r/MensRights14/12/15 05:06 AM
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Wow, this is a really uplifting story. Thanks for posting. Also, that food looks really really good.
/r/MensRights14/12/15 04:00 AM
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If someone breaks blackmailing laws, then that's a matter for THAT LAW. Blackmailing and extortion are their own laws. Threatening someone in order to get money out of them. So a teacher threatening to fail a student unless he paid her some sum of money would fall under these laws. Making it illegal for a teacher to threaten to fail a student unless they pay with sex is illegal under the same reasoning, but made a sex crime rather than a financial one. So it seems to me that if you support makin…
/r/MensRights14/12/15 01:30 AM
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Sure. But what you're doing is coming here and telling me that the people who held a gun to their kid's head shouldn't be punished for the bank robbery because, even though they were the ones who masterminded it, they weren't the ones who carried it out. Another question : should blackmail no longer be a crime?
/r/MensRights14/12/15 01:03 AM
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Yes but I don't think this is something that's going to make or break their decision to commit a crime, is my point.
/r/MensRights14/12/15 12:39 AM
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You didn't answer the question I posed. Someone is holding a gun to your kid's head and telling you to rob a bank or they'll shoot them. They aren't a threat to your life. You're telling me that you are fully in control of your decision to rob the bank?
/r/MensRights14/12/15 12:16 AM
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I have a hard time imagining some criminal sitting there thinking that the risk of committing a crime is worth it if they only face life without parole, but not worth it if they face death. I'd think they'd want to avoid either one. In my opinion if the punishment is sufficiently harsh to be an actual punishment, it's enough to deter the crime.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 10:32 PM
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That could be your opinion. I personally don't think this is possible and don't see a benefit to the death penalty anyway so, while I have no problem with it in theory, I think the easier and better answer is just to remove it at this point.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 10:20 PM
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This is the primary reason why the death penalty needs to end. Not because I have a fundamental problem with it, but because it's applied in such arbitrary and discriminatory ways.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 09:53 PM
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Can you post the stats / program you used / anything like that? It would help give credibility to these stats and be very interesting I think.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 09:12 PM
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Probably should have been clearer - I meant that the vast majority of these cases end with the woman walking free on probation or with a suspended sentence. A few, however, result in actual punishment (generally accompanied by some kind of quote condemning the double standard), and these cases (meaning the ones in which the woman is punished) are almost always handled by women.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 07:14 AM
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Sadly, that's not even close to the worst one, although she absolutely deserves prison time. Stories about 30-something year old women who rape boys aged 13 and younger and yet still get even lesser sentences than she got (no jail time, not even on weekends) occur at least a few times a week at this point. Every once in a while you get the driven (usually female) prosecutor or judge out to make a statement who gives these women a real prison term, but the scary part is that her sentence was the …
/r/MensRights13/12/15 06:13 AM
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I think the effort, if we do any of these things, should be to fight for changes that run parallel to feminism, not necessarily against it. If we make this a fight against feminism we will never win - feminist influence is too strong. Instead, we need to fight for equality for men on top of feminism and argue that we're just complementing feminist ideas. It's easy to have a discussion about selective service inequalities along with a feminist discussion about women in combat, for instance. It's …
/r/MensRights13/12/15 04:58 AM
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Oh, I totally do. The fact that they weren't minors is huge. I think it's somewhat ridiculous actually that she's got 5 years in jail for consensual sex with adults who didn't feel taken advantage of. That doesn't mean the double standard doesn't apply here, though. And, in reality, we'd be seeing that same comment even if these boys were 15 or younger, and that's where I think it's a serious problem.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 02:28 AM
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Are you equating blackmail with a devil controlling your thoughts and actions? Do you not believe blackmail is a real thing? Is it just an imaginary concept someone made up one time to excuse their actions? If someone is holding a gun to your kid's head and telling you to rob a bank or they'll shoot them, is that someone else controlling your thoughts or actions like a "witch", or would you agree that it's abuse?
/r/MensRights13/12/15 01:56 AM
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No one has some magical power over anyone else. It's not "magical" power, it's institutional power. Like the president has over the country, a police officer has over a citizen, or a teacher has over their students. If you have the power to negatively impact someone's life that's having power over them. I guess part of the purpose of statutory rape laws is to give power back to the kids in these relationships. Sure. Is she mind controlling them like a witch, or manipulating them (in the purest s…
/r/MensRights13/12/15 01:43 AM
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There's no such thing as being in charge. She is in charge of them as their teacher, I wasn't referring to BDSM. If these 18 year old MEN can't say stop or decide on their own that they do or do not want this, they should be in a halfway house under supervision, as they clearly have no self-determination in their life choices. I said they clearly were okay with it and I don't think she should be in jail. Jail and prison should be reserved for cases with minors or cases where coercion was involve…
/r/MensRights12/12/15 08:29 PM
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It's kind of funny that this comment is on EVERY article involving a female teacher abusing boys but is mysteriously absent on articles regarding male teachers abusing girls. No one ever suggests holding girls accountable for their own abuse.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 08:23 PM
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Being more likely to challenge and insist on risk taking. He insists on his kids not using the bumpers, despite his son complaining. And then apologizes over being a jerk about it later, if I remember right. Anyways, I saw We Bought a Zoo a while back and I remember it showing the struggles of a single father raising his kids after his wife died. The movie itself wasn't great though. Also (possible spoilers ahead), the new movie Lost in the Sun could also possibly be a good example about a typic…
/r/MensRights12/12/15 08:18 PM
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I have a hard time believing anyone really believes this.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 08:13 PM
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Okay, so I'm usually the first one to be railing against lenient sentences in cases like this, but the video says all the students were 18 or 19 years old and none of them wanted her charged or felt victimized. Yet still, she got 5 years in jail. That's heavy. Maybe we should take her spot in the jail and use it to imprison one of the hundreds of women we routinely let walk free for raping 13 year olds instead. It's disgusting that she continues to see herself as a victim though. She won't admit…
/r/MensRights12/12/15 08:11 PM
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What the fuck.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 07:58 PM
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His game was strong? According to him he said "no" a bunch of times while she just kept going on anyways then went in another room and cried afterwards. If true, that sounds more like rape than "game" to me.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 07:43 AM
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I don't disagree. The biggest issue I have with this woman is that this didn't even come across as a good-faith effort to get girls involved in STEM. There are a thousand more reasonable ways she could have given the girls their own private Lego time if that was her goal. It's the "they can play with them when hell freezes over" bit that makes it clear, to me at least, that this was never about helping girls but actually about her living out some secret power fantasy by punishing boys. The end g…
/r/MensRights12/12/15 05:55 AM
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Yeah, I realized later I should have been much clearer. I'm going to edit my post.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 05:23 AM
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At least that one is pretty neutral. If you look at this one they call it "romped".
/r/MensRights12/12/15 04:22 AM
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Well, he was 14, not 15, although I suppose it's possible. Presumably there are no pictures as papers obviously can't publish his identity. Clearly there's two sides to the story here. He says he was forced into doing something he didn't want to after saying "no" repeatedly and then took pictures as proof, she says he initiated it and then blackmailed her afterwards. Although regardless, she had sex with a 14 year old and is at fault in my opinion.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 03:16 AM
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Yeah, I watched the arguments the other day. I have to say I was pretty disappointed with the NCFM's lawyer but, the way it looked to me, it's almost certain the court was going to rule in their favor at this stage. The government lawyer just didn't really have any argument to stand on. Which just means that they agree the case should be looked at, this wasn't concerning the actual merits of drafting women at all.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 01:55 AM
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It's conjecture based on past evidence. If you look at these kinds of cases in the UK in the past, judges have accepted all sorts of bizarre justifications for letting women off on these sorts of crimes. I can link examples if you feel the need to read them. Again, the point of this post was to criticize this kind of thinking and demonstrate how victim blaming and rape culture are things that impact boys as well as girls. Are you arguing that I should have waited until the results of the trial a…
/r/MensRights12/12/15 01:16 AM
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I agree with you. I don't really know how to do that though, so I'll just keep posting these stories every once in a while for now. Though I am making a serious effort to do so less often and just pick the worst ones.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 01:08 AM
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The point is that excuses mean nothing. It's the reaction of the jury that's the measure of a society. That's true. Maybe I'm applying bias, I don't know. It's entirely possible she'll be found guilty, but I think there's also a scarily large chance she'll be found innocent (the recent case where the babysitter who raped an 11 year old was let off because he was "sex mad" should be evidence of that). I don't think criticizing such arguments is beyond the scope of men's rights. We'll see, I suppo…
/r/MensRights12/12/15 01:06 AM
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This is old news, but still very sad. No one should be forced to pay their rapist child support. Someone needs to take this kind of case to the Supreme Court. There has to be some part of the constitution it's violating. Equal protection or cruel and unusual punishment or something. I mean, if he ends up going to jail for not paying you could argue he was put in jail for being raped. That HAS to be cruel and unusual.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 01:04 AM
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say. The whole point of this post was to show that an excuse that would never, in a million years, fly for a male defendant was being taken seriously when used by a female defendant. I would argue that this is because girls are automatically presumed to be victims in cases like this, whereas boys are automatically presumed to be equal partners and not victims of abuse unless proven otherwise.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 12:42 AM
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this is obviously bollocks, but I'll give you the chance to point to the legislation that sets this out Clearly not legislation, but a matter of public opinion. The public is much more likely to view a girl as a victim and a boy as in control of the situation, which would obviously lead to jury bias, and in sentencing to bias with the judge as well.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 12:23 AM
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I tried at one point. I even had a site going. It became too much work to maintain and for some reason it was way too slow to load. Besides, I've been trying to stop looking up these stories so often, and only post the egregious ones, or the ones where there's actually something we can do about. All it does is get me mad, and I really should be studying for finals. The funny thing is this issue used to not bother me when I first came here. I was pissed mostly about selective service and discrimi…
/r/MensRights12/12/15 12:17 AM
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That was an interesting format for replying to my post. Anyway, you bring up some decent points. I guess the point I was trying to make was that the argument of "she was dominant and I couldn't help myself" with regards to a 46 year old man and 14 year old girl would be so absurd that no one would even consider arguing it. Clearly, the fact that this woman and her attorney think this is a valid defense, and that it may result in her walking free, demonstrates the double standard in how much furt…
/r/MensRights12/12/15 12:04 AM
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However, UK law is such that this crime wouldn't even be classified as rape, it's (believe it or not) unwanted sexual intercourse, and has a lower sentence. Yeah, I did know that there's a lot of sexist stuff in UK rape laws that makes it only rape if the perpetrator is a man. Truly disgusting, really. Especially when children are involved.
/r/MensRights11/12/15 11:57 PM
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I'd never heard of it, but I just googled it and found this. Apparently we do have it, but crimes involving minors (including statutory rape) are "strict liability" which means this kind of defense is invalid. And yeah, it seems likely she knew exactly what she was doing. Not to mention if he said no multiple times and she proceeded to do it anyway that should be a crime whether he was 14, 17, or 30.
/r/MensRights11/12/15 11:45 PM
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I didn't mean there wouldn't be a trial. I'm saying that she admitted to having sex with a 14 year old and is somehow arguing "but I really thought he was 17" as an excuse at a trial. I'm saying if this was a man that would be a defense no one would believe, and that wouldn't matter. In the US in particular "mistake of age" is a defense forbidden for statutory rape cases - I'm not sure if it's allowed in the UK, but either way a 46 year old man who intended to have sex with a 17 year old girl wh…
/r/MensRights11/12/15 11:36 PM
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The school backtracked pretty quickly after this story came out, at least. Following the release of a recent news article, the Bainbridge Island School District (BISD) has received inquiries that reflect inaccurate perceptions about student access to Legos in Karen Keller’s kindergarten classroom at Blakely Elementary School. In keeping with a science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) education grant, Ms. Keller gave girls a designated time to play with the building toys during a 30-minut…
/r/MensRights11/12/15 11:29 PM
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If you, as a 46 year old adult, aggressively pursue sex with a youngish-looking 17 year old you should know you're playing with fire. Also, given that he claims he said "no" and she continued to have sex with him anyway, wouldn't this fall under something that should be illegal regardless of their ages?
/r/MensRights11/12/15 11:09 PM
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Fun story...in NZ there are two separate charges, assault and "male assaults female". As far as I know they cover the exact same crimes and which you are charged with is determined entirely by the gender of the attacker and victim. The punishment is roughly double for "male assaults female" as it is for assault.
/r/MensRights11/12/15 09:21 PM
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Apparently not. See definition here It has to be penetration with a penis. Women actually CAN be charged with rape, but only if they are an accomplice to a male rapist (example here). Which is why women who rape boys under 13 can only be charged with "sexual activity with a child", the same crime as for having sex with a 15 year old, while men who do the same with girls under 13 are considered rapists and subject to much harsher penalties. As we saw with the babysitter Jade Hatt, this means wome…
/r/MensRights11/12/15 09:04 PM
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I don't know. There are a ton of these stories from the US as well but I don't post all of them because that would be 4+ stories a day, usually. The UK ones tend to have more detail about just how horrifying they are. Also, if the sentence is ridiculous there is a process in the UK where the public can email the attorney general to challenge it while in the US sentences are generally final (which means people might be more inclined to post UK stories because we can actually do something about ba…
/r/MensRights11/12/15 08:38 PM
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Unfortunately women in the UK can not be charged with rape. Even if the sex was forced. I have no idea why she's not being called a pedophile.
/r/MensRights11/12/15 07:25 PM
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It amazes me that she can admit to having sex with a 14 year old boy and still get a trial to see whether he really initiated it or not. I can't help but feel that, if a 46 year old man had sex with a 14 year old girl, this question would (rightfully) not even be considered and he'd be thrown in jail straight away. Hopefully the same happens to her. Edit: I should have been clearer that I didn't mean she shouldn't get a trial. I meant that her "justification" should not be taken seriously as a v…
/r/MensRights11/12/15 06:50 PM
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Just because colleges are more than 50% women doesn't mean admissions are biased in favor of them. It just means more women apply. The rest of the article discusses admissions biases.
/r/MensRights11/12/15 06:00 PM
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Well, you know, that could be the case. 15, for instance, is a lot less horrible than 11 (although still very bad). I'm not sure it can get much worse than 11 though, so in that regard you might be right.
/r/MensRights11/12/15 03:37 AM
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There is no way in hell this story actually happened.
/r/MensRights11/12/15 02:46 AM
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I thought it was obvious that my initial statement was about admissions given the topic of the thread. Where did the link state that admissions favor women by far? About half favored men precisely BECAUSE they had more existing female students. Far less than half favored women.
/r/MensRights11/12/15 12:46 AM
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The article actually answers that But Dame Sally is so concerned about women because of the complication risks in pregnancy and the implications for their unborn children. It's a bullshit answer, of course. The real answer is "because we don't care what happens to men". But still, they did attempt to address it.
/r/MensRights11/12/15 12:28 AM
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I meant in terms of admissions, and provided a source for it. I don't know what more you want.
/r/MensRights10/12/15 11:26 PM
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I don't think anyone here has a problem with a woman becoming president. I personally think it would be kind of neat. I do, however, have a problem with Hillary becoming president.
/r/MensRights10/12/15 09:35 PM
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I think this article is okay, but I think the underlying article they're referencing is amazing. Particularly, I think, important was this line: we tell them to suppress their feelings because they are destroying the fantasy of somebody else
/r/MensRights10/12/15 09:11 PM
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Not surprising that she didn't get a real punishment. Men get years in prison and decades as a sex offender for having consensual sex on a beach. Women sexually attack someone and get no jail time and no registration.
/r/MensRights10/12/15 08:46 PM
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It's nice to know that at least the federal government doesn't treat these cases with too much discrimination. Usually when they step in there's going to be serious punishment regardless of the sex of the perpetrator or victim.
/r/MensRights10/12/15 07:30 PM
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I agree that it is overwhelmingly likely that Hillary will win. And yes, it's pretty bad, but it probably won't be as bad for men's rights as if certain conservatives had won. Going into this election one of the things I'm most interested in following is the debate on women in selective service. Particularly with a female candidate, and the timing of the election, I think this could become an issue. Hillary has come out in support of drafting women before (as did Obama), while virtually all cons…
/r/MensRights10/12/15 07:27 PM
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Agree 100%. But no one cares as long as it is only young, single male slaves dying. When women are included as well, perhaps we can get people to put an end to this once and for all. As another article on this said, women generally fight very hard for their right to choose. Men are instantly silenced if they bring up their right to choose. Tying the two together can only help men.
/r/MensRights10/12/15 07:23 PM
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I mean it really depends on how you look at it. I didn't give any sort of opinion on affirmative action, just said that it does help men in certain situations as well.
/r/MensRights10/12/15 07:22 PM
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That's because they haven't criminally charged anyone in decades. My theory is that they're fully aware the draft has shaky legal justification, and sending people to prison for failing to register would almost certainly result in an explosion of costly lawsuits that could end up overturning the whole thing, or forcing them to include women. With federal benefits, there was a court case a few years ago regarding a man who was denied a federal job because he had not signed up for selective servic…
/r/MensRights10/12/15 06:25 PM
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You have to be convicted of the felony first though, right? And since no one has been tried for this in decades I doubt that's a huge issue at the moment (although it certainly could be in the future)
/r/MensRights10/12/15 06:14 PM
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And then they'll turn around and argue why we SHOULDN'T imprison women actually convicted of child rape because community orders are better for them and jail wasn't designed with women in mind. Unbelievable.
/r/MensRights10/12/15 06:11 PM
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I think people are misunderstanding my point too. I was just saying there's evidence that being male can help you in affirmative action in many cases. I don't see what's so controversial about that.
/r/MensRights10/12/15 04:16 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/the-gender-factor-in-college-admissions/2014/03/26/4996e988-b4e6-11e3-8020-b2d790b3c9e1_story.html It's not a huge discrepancy and they mention that at tech schools like MIT it goes in favor of women, but the advantage was for men at more schools than it was for women.
/r/MensRights10/12/15 03:35 AM
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I was talking about in terms of admission, given that the OP was talking about affirmative action.
/r/MensRights10/12/15 03:27 AM
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How is that ironically? Not only does being male benefit you at more schools than it hurts you (STEM aside), this court case has absolutely nothing to do with gender-based affirmative action and is only considering race.
/r/MensRights10/12/15 03:03 AM
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Yeah, it's very nice. Aside from some conservatives using the draft as a boogeyman to oppose women in combat altogether, the only thing I've seen come close to criticizing women in the draft is a feminist piece that criticizes women in combat roles altogether here. But clearly that's an extreme argument.
/r/MensRights10/12/15 02:29 AM
1

I'd imagine it's different in the heat of the moment when you're panicking and scared. I think the large number of cases like this would show that.
/r/MensRights10/12/15 02:20 AM
2

Well, that's the problem. Kids can panic and lock up and, not knowing what to do, just go along with it because it's an adult in an authority position over them and they're afraid to say no. A lot of times kids will say they were afraid they'd get in trouble if they said no. That's why age of consent exists.
/r/MensRights10/12/15 02:07 AM
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And it sounds like proper rape anyway, like it would still have been rape had it happened to an adult. I know that the UK law specifies that women cannot, under any circumstances, rape men or boys. I'm not even sure if a woman can be charged with any kind of sex offense against an adult man - maybe, but I think the chances of something like this ever being charged for a woman abusing a grown man are slim to none. The guy would likely be laughed out of court, unfortunately. But I do agree that it…
/r/MensRights10/12/15 02:05 AM
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For Louise VanDenburgh, an 18-year-old international affairs major at George Washington University, the prospect is a bit different. “I would be terrified,” she says. But without pausing, she notes that’s no different from how many men would feel. And, she adds, these days it seems only fair. This was my favorite. Hits the mark spot-on especially because so many people stop at the first part without that follow-up observation.
/r/MensRights09/12/15 11:29 PM
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If she called it rape, almost certainly. If she phrased it like "having fun with a passed out dude" or something maybe not, although I'd certainly like to think so.
/r/MensRights09/12/15 11:25 PM
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Tell that to Emmeline Pankhurst, the despicable coward who went around shaming teenage boys into going to fight a war she would never be asked to fight. The white feather lady? Yeah, I hate her with a burning passion. My top post on Reddit for the longest time was a complaint about how evil that whole thing was. That's what this kind of conservative mindset leads to though- read that whole baptist article and it's pretty clear that they'd support a similar movement today.
/r/MensRights09/12/15 10:32 PM
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The thing is, he didn't fight it. He didn't tell her no. He didn't say anything. From her perspective, how does that look any different than if he'd consented (assuming we're not going to count the fact that he's a child). If you were trying to prove it was rape, what exactly would you have to show?
/r/MensRights09/12/15 10:29 PM
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No, you're right, I don't. But I still don't see how that works. Kissing someone and then proceeding to pull them down and have sex with them is fairly normal for a consensual relationship. How do you distinguish that from false imprisonment? Is it entirely dependent on how the victim feels at the time / afterwards? Meaning if they were enjoying it it was consensual sex, and if they really wanted to leave but didn't say anything it's rape, despite these two situations appearing exactly identical…
/r/MensRights09/12/15 10:02 PM
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That wouldn't be false imprisonment though because the kid is technically strong enough to push her off and leave, he just panicked and didn't. This is why, if applied equitably, I have no problem with some kind of affirmative consent laws. I just don't believe they would be applied equitably. But children who might not be capable or prepared to react to a scary situation like this should still be protected from abuse.
/r/MensRights09/12/15 09:46 PM
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And how, exactly, do you tell what is "consensual" and what is manipulative and abusive? For instance, you have cases like this, where a woman follows a kid into another room and sexually assaults him against his will, but he freezes up and doesn't know how to handle it. He apparently left right away and went home crying afterwards, so clearly this wasn't consensual. Yet, in a legal sense, how can you distinguish something like this from consensual sex?
/r/MensRights09/12/15 08:48 PM
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I'm pleasantly surprised. My reaction as well. Disgusted to read of their practices, but pleasantly surprised that something is actually being done about it.
/r/MensRights09/12/15 08:41 PM
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Maybe Jamie Wilson should look at her son and try to understand why she doesn't value his life. Once again, the only people even talking about selective service in the wake of the recent change with women in combat are hardcore conservatives using it as a boogeyman to oppose women in combat. Here's another particularly disgusting piece. Like this statement: "Christian men know that war is terrible," Strachan continued. "We do not ask for it; we confess with Augustine that war must be just to be …
/r/MensRights09/12/15 08:34 PM
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Mr Olivares-Chandler said Lockhart initially got the boy to touch her legs when the grooming began. ‘He said he didn’t want to but she asked him again and he complied with her demands’, Mr Olivares-Chandler said. She then convinced him to have sex with her in January last year, the court heard. Mr Olivares-Chandler said: ‘She told him to go to the bathroom with her. He didn’t do so but she repeated her demand and once again he did as he was told.’ Mr Olivares-Chandler said the boy refused to tak…
/r/MensRights09/12/15 08:28 PM
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Actually, I recall seeing landlords post "female only" - is that legal? No idea, but that might be a legitimate complaint. Complaining about someone looking for a roommate of a particular gender just seems silly to me.
/r/MensRights09/12/15 06:37 AM
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I mean, this is looking for a roommate. I probably wouldn't be too comfortable with a female roommate. I don't know what the issue here is.
/r/MensRights09/12/15 06:23 AM
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Anyway, I can see where the government is going with this. They are cynically trying to convince the court that the only "valid" redress for men to seek is the abolishment of the draft. Except that this doesn't make any sense. In the 1981 case the government accepted that a man had standing to sue for gender equality in the draft, so shouldn't that be the precedent?
/r/MensRights09/12/15 04:33 AM
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Probably true. The problem was she really has no case, so for the circumstances I don't think she did a half bad job.
/r/MensRights09/12/15 04:25 AM
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I mean, if I were to borrow a certain SJW term we all hold near and dear to our hearts, I'd say the lady was lawsplaining. Isn't that kind of what lawyers are supposed to do in a courtroom though? She even tried to lead them on a wild goose chase when it came to the plaintiff's claim, trying to convince the judges that it said something different than what it actually said, until the judges themselves looked through it and read key parts of it back to her because some of her claims were so obvio…
/r/MensRights09/12/15 04:21 AM
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He probably spent too much time on it, but I would point out that the dispute is over whether the district court's dismissal of the lawsuit on the grounds of ripeness was correct or not, so he was "covering his bases" as he said in the video. Perhaps, but it was obvious (to me at least) after about 5 seconds that they wanted him to argue that it was ripe now, not when the case was in front of district court, but he didn't seem to get that. It also seemed like the government attorney received sig…
/r/MensRights09/12/15 04:18 AM
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Okay, so I watched that video. I enjoyed it; thanks for providing it. I have to say, as someone with no legal knowledge, that government attorney was far, far more impressive than the NCFM's attorney. He stood their arguing about whether the case was ripe before the recent changes for way too long. Even I could tell the judges were getting frustrated and trying to get him to realize that that didn't matter. And I disagreed with all the other attorney's points but she spoke them in a coherent, im…
/r/MensRights09/12/15 03:45 AM
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This is so crazy it would be hilarious if they weren't using it as justification to hurt men and boys.
/r/MensRights09/12/15 03:29 AM
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Well my point was that last time he actually sent the woman to prison, so it's possible he may be considering more than just sex (although I know that there is a 0% chance a man who did this would walk free). But I'm confused as to how he said his about a 15 year old boy a week ago: Lord Justice Treacy said: 'The purpose of the legislation is to protect young people from harm - at times protecting them from their own urges and inclinations. The victim was a youth for whom the offender had respon…
/r/MensRights09/12/15 02:52 AM
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Still, it would be nice if the trial court at least would rule in the NCFM's favor some time in 2016. It would be great. That's part of the reason I've been watching closely what the White House / Pentagon / Congress say about this. They may not be able or willing to directly make the change themselves, but a statement from one or more of these entities coming out in support of a gender neutral draft can always help. Just like how, in my opinion, the Pentagon's recent statement that the landscap…
/r/MensRights09/12/15 01:06 AM
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Ok, so full discretion, I've looked into this more closely and Justice Treacy, who headed this decision, was the same judge who headed this decision last month, which ended with a woman going to prison for sex with a 15 year old boy after a suspended sentence was ruled unduly lenient. I still think it's horrendous that a woman could rape an 11 year old, then proceed to blame her victim and still walk free from court not once but twice, but at least it appears this judge may have actually looked …
/r/MensRights09/12/15 12:58 AM
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Thanks! And, correct me if I'm wrong, but the verdict will only be either sending the case back down to the courts to look at seriously, or tossing it out on procedural grounds, right? They're not actually evaluating the actual merits of the case? This is moving really, really slowly. Obviously at some point they'll actually have to look at a case like this on its merits but even if they rule favorably it looks like it could be years before a real verdict is reached and if they toss this out who…
/r/MensRights09/12/15 12:42 AM
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Interesting news on this court case today. I don't know too much about this. Does anyone know how long we'll probably have to wait to get a verdict?
/r/MensRights08/12/15 10:36 PM
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That's a fair point. Although the discrepancy between a child getting 55 years and an adult getting probation for similar crimes is stlil rather disturbing.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 10:26 PM
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Came here to say this. When I complain about people saying "it's wrong to hit a woman", I don't mean that I actually think I should be able to hit a woman. I mean that, by saying that, they're implicitly also stating that it's sometimes okay to hit a man. This is what I don't like.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 09:56 PM
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Agreed. It happens very rarely in the reverse, as most men who do this go to jail, but when they do avoid punishment there is usually an army of feminists and victims rights advocates there to ruin the judge's life and reputation (and I'm totally okay with that). But this is three times now, TODAY, that a woman has avoided prison for raping a young boy. That's in one single day. To find 3 men accused of raping young girls who avoided punishment like this you'd have to go back quite some time, bu…
/r/MensRights08/12/15 09:48 PM
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Except, had she been male, the court wouldn't have been considering any community orders and HE would be in prison for years for rape of a girl under 13. And Lord Justice Treacy knows this full well.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 09:25 PM
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Just wanted to point this out. I know this is a completely different jurisdiction but this 31 year old woman admits to basically raping two 15 year old boys and faces virtually no consequences. Compare that to the two 14 year old boys here who are charged with raping a 15 year old girl, tried as adults and having their pictures broadcast everywhere, and facing 55 YEARS in prison. It should be clear which victims are valuable and which aren't.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 09:22 PM
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Sorry, I have adblock and didn't notice this.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 08:07 PM
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This is the THIRD woman today sentenced for raping a child who won't go to prison. It's fucking sickening. The courts are basically giving women a free pass to rape boys to their hearts content and not have to worry in the slightest about being held responsible. I just don't get why no one in the court systems seems to care about protecting boys the same way they do girls. A man rapes a girl and he goes to prison for years. A woman rapes a boy and it's straight to probation. Every. Fucking. Time…
/r/MensRights08/12/15 06:49 PM
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The government is not allowed to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws", as per the 14th amendment. This has been interpreted many times to refer to gender equality. This was ruled not to apply to the draft in 1981 because women were not allowed in combat roles, but obviously it's open to be re-challenged today (here). The two-page analysis states that how women are assigned in the military has changed since Rostker v. Goldberg, the 1981 case that addressed…
/r/MensRights08/12/15 06:11 PM
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I agree that trump is a piece of shit, but it's interesting to compare the mass amounts of world leaders who rip apart someone for suggesting refusing Muslims entry, but the most progressive people in the world are totally okay with refusing Muslim men entry.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 04:12 PM
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But you're not considering the solution to this issue, and one that is actually quite likely to happen. The courts can't pass legislation - they cannot mandate that women sign up for the draft. What they CAN do, is rule that the current draft is unconstitutional in requiring only men to sign up, and consequently strike it down. Then, barring action from the legislative branch, the draft simply dies away. BUT, if anyone ever tries to bring it back, there is a SCOTUS ruling on the books saying tha…
/r/MensRights08/12/15 01:04 AM
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Another one of these ridiculous sentences that suggests sexual abuse done by women is less serious, or that the women who commit this abuse are somehow less evil or responsible for their actions than men who do. She met the victim in seventh grade, and groomed her for years before sexually abusing her. Yet still only gets 120 days. Even when sentencing guidelines force female abusers to get actual prison terms, like 7 years in prison, prosecutors find weird sentencing alternatives (which are som…
/r/MensRights07/12/15 11:12 PM
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The draft is the reason I came to this subreddit in the first place. Having to sign up devastated me, not so much because I was scared of actually being drafted, but because it made me feel like my life was worthless. Like, up until that time I'd been technically a child so my life had some value, but registering for the draft is basically a signal that society views you like disposable trash now and no one really cares whether you live or die. That's why I feel that, if everyone had to register…
/r/MensRights07/12/15 03:40 AM
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That's a fair point, but when I think of adolescence I think more of high school than anything. You don't have too many choices in high school.
/r/MensRights06/12/15 05:19 PM
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Wow, and it's worse than that. It says "one of the teen victims", which means she's been molesting multiple kids. AND she's pregnant, which means she destroyed some kid's life who will now have to give up whatever his goals and dreams were to pay child support after high school. So she serially molested teenage boys, will get away with zero punishment (chances of her spending a day in jail are zero) and what's more will be rewarded for her actions by a fat paycheck every month from her victims. …
/r/MensRights06/12/15 05:15 AM
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What choices, exactly, do adolescents get to make? They don't get to vote, which seems to me to be the choice most closely tied with fighting in a war. Anyway, I don't think that's how adolescence is supposed to work. It's supposed to be a chance to start experimenting with making choices while having someone to protect you from consequences that would be too severe if you screw up. Before this concept was invented, boys would be expected to do dangerous work, support their families, go to war, …
/r/MensRights06/12/15 04:11 AM
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Honestly, I have no idea.
/r/MensRights06/12/15 03:47 AM
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Adolescence is a broken creation of the modern era. What exactly is wrong with adolescence? I think it's a men's rights win.
/r/MensRights06/12/15 02:46 AM
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If they're made to sign up on paper, they'll lose benefits for not signing up. They're not just going to ignore that section on the application for federal benefits because it's a woman. They won't go to jail, but neither has any man in decades. As to what would happen in an actual draft...who knows. The chances of that happening in the near future are pretty slim. The goal is to never let that happen, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't fight for equality now.
/r/MensRights06/12/15 12:13 AM
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Um, I just looked up article 1 section 8, and read the full text. There is references to giving the federal government the power to raise a militia, but zero reference to forced conscription, nor to any specific length of time (not sure where you got that 8 years from), nor any specific mention of gender.
/r/MensRights06/12/15 12:11 AM
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It's always been women's groups who were most vocal against a female draft. Didn't NOW argue alongside men challenging a male-only draft in the Supreme Court in the 1980s? I'm pretty sure that's actually still their official position as per their website. And wasn't it Norway's feminist government that made conscription gender-neutral just a year or so ago? I don't deny that a lot of women's groups are apparently hypocritical in their opposition to drafting women (but either support or indiffere…
/r/MensRights05/12/15 11:32 PM
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This isn't really about the practical application though. The goal is to never let the horrible draft happen again. I think most people here agree with that goal. Not only would forcing women to register virtually guarantee that it will never happen again, it's a huge victory even if the draft is never used again. Right now, hundreds of thousands of teenage boys across the country are forced to, on their 18th birthday, come to terms with the fact that their life is now worth less than their fema…
/r/MensRights05/12/15 11:27 PM
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The draft age should be raised to 21 anyway (or at least 20). Forcing teenagers to war is pretty horrible, honestly. That said, I don't think both parents of children should be sent to fight. Of course I think the whole draft is bullshit, but given that the assholes in power decide to keep it it it should be this way.
/r/MensRights05/12/15 11:25 PM
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Except that's what this court case is doing, and these headlines are sensationalist nonsense. The courts cannot write legislation - they cannot force women to register for selective service. All the NCFM are doing is saying that selective service is unconstitutional as it involves sex discrimination. If the NCFM win, the courts will strike down selective service as unconstitutional - but again, the courts themselves cannot force women to sign up. Winning just means the whole act is struck down. …
/r/MensRights05/12/15 11:22 PM
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I think the idea is that it would feel like there was some sort of justice, whereas right now it feels kind of like she just got away with it with 0 punishment. As it stands, her life hasn't been affected in the least. Her daily routine has not changed, she's not less comfortable, nothing. She probably doesn't even regret what she's done. Now, this particular crime isn't one that I necessarily think needs prison, but I totally understand how people feel because I was equally frustrated with the …
/r/MensRights04/12/15 03:19 PM
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Only certain types of case can be reviewed, including murder, rape, robbery, some child sex crimes and child cruelty, some serious fraud, some serious drug crimes, and crimes committed because of the victim's race or religion. Go ahead and email if you want, but I think it's a stretch to try and put this under any of those categories. As far as I know there are very specific guidelines and if the crime doesn't fall under one of those categories, they can't appeal it. Edit: I take that back. Appa…
/r/MensRights04/12/15 04:35 AM
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No problem, thanks a lot, that was a very interesting read. This was the issue that first made me look at men's rights (I was really upset after having to sign up at 18) and one that still pisses me off more than any other, so I'm always interested in learning more about it. It seems like this would be very close. On the one hand, I'd love Obama to just nix the whole thing, as I think it's much better to do away with the draft than expand it, and it would be a guarantee. But on the other hand, i…
/r/MensRights04/12/15 04:26 AM
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Wow, that was really informative, thanks. A ruling that upholds the previous "not ripe" argument is basically just a delay. What would be horrible is if this makes it to court, they examine all the evidence, and rule that even with women in combat it's acceptable for only men to be draft-eligible. Because after that, there's virtually no way to get it challenged in the future. If the legislature doesn't make this change on their own (and I very much doubt they will) I think it's pretty obvious t…
/r/MensRights04/12/15 02:04 AM
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I agree. This is a move towards equality, plain and simple. What's more, this is a WIN for men's rights. This quote right here is why: “We also look forward to receiving the Department’s views on any changes to the Selective Service Act that may be required as a result of this decision.”
/r/MensRights03/12/15 07:10 PM
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Boys do better means system is biased against girls, needs to be fixed. Girls do better means boys are just stupid, everything is fine.
/r/MensRights02/12/15 05:16 PM
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From my understanding, he wasn't so traumatized by the sex itself as by everything that came with it - she became pregnant, had her daughter call him "dad", expected him to be like a boyfriend and protect / provide for her, etc. I think the issue is more the fact that he was expected to act like an adult so soon, and had to keep the whole thing a secret from everyone, that would be traumatizing.
/r/MensRights01/12/15 06:18 PM
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I think this MP is a little crazy, but he brings up some good points here and I appreciate that he questioned this sentence.
/r/MensRights01/12/15 05:21 PM
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Are you arguing for affirmative consent laws? Or letting the victim decide whether they were raped and having that word be law? I'm saying that if, legally, he didn't try to stop her or say no, how can you distinguish that from consensual sex?
/r/MensRights01/12/15 04:50 PM
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I'm curious, what do you say to statutory rape cases where the victim is obviously traumatized? For instance, this case, where you have a 48 year old woman follow her daughter's male friend into another room, then have sex with him before he is able to comprehend what is going on or push her off? According to the article, he immediately left and went home crying. Clearly, this kid was taken advantage of and abused by a much older woman, and went home traumatized. But there's nothing to legally s…
/r/MensRights01/12/15 04:57 AM
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Which essentially means you agree with me. I already stated that its a law or value, a thing of belief and not of fact. The fact is that someone isn't being raped if both people agree to it. Not really. I would argue that everything is based on our values and morals - including the definition of rape that you seem to believe is set in stone. Some cultures, for instance, wouldn't consider a man who holds down and violently rapes his wife as rape - because they were married. We, obviously (and for…
/r/MensRights01/12/15 03:43 AM
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Apart from that, they still didn't care if said young males went off to war and got butchered in trenches. They even would shame young boys who weren't fighting in those wars and were "conscientious objectors". Feminists were the ones in charge of the white feather movement. I'm well aware of this, and disgusted by it, but I don't see how the evil behavior of 1910s feminists has anything to do with 1980s feminists campaigning for gender-neutral statutory rape laws (I'm not saying they all agreed…
/r/MensRights01/12/15 03:35 AM
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I was just trying to say that your "we should make it legal because other countries have it legal" argument doesn't really hold water. Our laws our based on our values, not those of other countries.
/r/MensRights01/12/15 03:14 AM
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It's kind of funny that you act like women are all conspiring on this to find a way to let women get away with it while punishing men. They had that, for hundreds of years while statutory rape laws only protected girls. It was feminist reforms that expanded the law to boys as well. What's more, they STILL have that in many ways, what with wide sentencing ranges - with an allowed punishment from between probation to life in prison for the same crime, you can de facto insure that statutory rape la…
/r/MensRights01/12/15 03:10 AM
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Stop going around saying all sex with a 15-17 year old is rape. Nah. I think I'll keep posting these stories and you'll somehow keep managing to find every single one to complain in. We're finally starting to see some progress (as this article and all the UK wrist-slap sentences getting overturned show) so I don't see any reason to stop now. It is rape based on statute, which is bullshit to begin with when you realize that other countries have far lower ages of consent. So, other countries allow…
/r/MensRights01/12/15 03:01 AM
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I thought this was good to post because not only did the article actually refer to the crime as "rape", but she was actually given a significant punishment for it as well. Hopefully spreading awareness to the seriousness of this kind of crime will get more people to realize that it is not a joke, and get more and more cases resolved like this - with both headlines and punishments that are reflective of a serious crime.
/r/MensRights30/11/15 05:42 PM
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Except, once again, the author doesn't explain where the PUNISHMENT is supposed to come from. Whether or not community sentences are good for rehabilitation, they tend to have zero punishment. For minor crimes (like the article mentions, petty theft), this might be okay. But women commit major crimes too. They violently assault people and murder people and molest children. These crimes NEED to be punished, both to deter them in the future and to show victims that they are cared about. Feminists …
/r/MensRights30/11/15 05:40 AM
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"The probation report says Baskerville poses an ongoing and high level of risk to children of committing sexual offences. "In Lawrence's case the risk he poses to young people can be addressed adequately by a Sexual Harm Prevention Order." This is what I was going off of.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 05:20 PM
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And, more importantly, would she be okay with men "redesigning" men's prisons so that men don't have to go to prison either? After all, if women can declare that other women should get community orders for all sorts of horrible crimes, then certainly men should be able to decide the same for other men. Would she be okay with men who rape women, who beat their wives, etc, being able to do so knowing that they won't face any real consequences? Would she be okay with rape victims having to face the…
/r/MensRights29/11/15 03:59 PM
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Oh, 4 years? Awesome! Might not be a lot, but at least it's just something, though This is actually why I'm not too upset by this whole article. The fact that she was actually jailed at all is a really good indication of the progress that's being made in this area. Hopefully the repeated efforts of the attorney general to appeal every case like this that ends with a suspended sentence will start causing these judges to realize that if they don't send these women to jail their sentences will just…
/r/MensRights28/11/15 11:07 PM
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The male possibly got a bigger sentence because he forced the boy to watch porn. Forcing the boy to watch porn is more serious than chasing him to his room, holding him down, and having a girl sexually abuse him for 45 minutes?
/r/MensRights28/11/15 06:30 PM
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If that's true, it's horribly sad. And I'm actually grateful that this woman was punished at all - you're right, most of the times they (both men and women) aren't. But what's the most frustrating (to me) about these stories regarding women who abuse boys is not those who are found not guilty, or anything - it's those who are found guilty, or who admit to their crimes, and still aren't punished. Where the judge / prosecutors have the option to send a woman to jail, but choose to let her get away…
/r/MensRights28/11/15 06:28 PM
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Of course they both belong in jail. But the article says a report indicated the woman was a high risk of reoffending while the man's risk could have been handled without prison by a sexual harm prevention order. What's more, the woman initiated the abuse which the man went along with. Everything points to her being the more serious offender. If they'd just sentenced them to the same time, fine. But for him to, despite all that, get MORE jail time? It's just sad. Don't get me wrong, I'm actually …
/r/MensRights28/11/15 05:04 PM
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Fair point. I guess what I was trying to show was that women who sexually abuse boys get reports saying their risk can be managed with sexual harm prevention orders all the time, and almost without fail that's what they get (along with zero jail time). A man gets the same report and is STILL jailed for longer than the woman who was a serious danger.
/r/MensRights28/11/15 03:50 PM
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She didn't quite rape him. She held him down while having a 13 year old girl sexually assault him and then laughing while it happened.
/r/MensRights28/11/15 02:50 PM
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I was going off the report that said the level of risk he posed could have been managed with a sexual harm prevention order, or without jail. Basically that means less than her.
/r/MensRights28/11/15 02:48 PM
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Well, in the UK women can't be charged with rape. She was charged with "causing a child to engage in sexual activity without consent".
/r/MensRights28/11/15 06:52 AM
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To be perfectly fair about this, it was notions of feminism and gender equality that got female conscription introduced in Norway in the first place (and the people who posted this article were not successful, as far as I know, in stopping it). I believe Sweden also made their conscription gender neutral due to concerns about gender equality, at the same time as suspending conscription altogether.
/r/MensRights28/11/15 06:40 AM
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Gender equality implies first and foremost that women and men should have the same human rights and fundamental freedoms. This is just sad. Do they not consider the right to stay alive as a human right or fundamental freedom?
/r/MensRights28/11/15 06:31 AM
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Perhaps even worse, the girl who sexually abused him for 45 minutes while the woman held him down and he tried to escape, then made fun of him at school for it later, faced no charges whatsoever. I have a very hard time imagining a 13 year old boy sexually assaulting a 14 year old girl while she was held down by his father, then going to school and making fun of her wouldn't face consequences.
/r/MensRights28/11/15 02:46 AM
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Why is this relevant to mensrights? It's a legitimate concern if women who work on fishing boats are feeling left out or discriminated against, and the term "fisherman" might just be emblematic of that. And isn't a fisherman one of those dangerous manual labor jobs we frequently complain that women don't do enough of? So why complain when they try to make it more welcoming to women so they do more of it?
/r/MensRights28/11/15 01:29 AM
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This woman is getting charged with rape in Australia, though. And yeah, it's obviously still being treated differently, but getting legal equality is the first step.
/r/MensRights27/11/15 07:35 PM
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You sure? The sexual abuse of boys of any age, including rape, by adult women was fully legal in New Zealand until around 2007. This is despite New Zealand having been party to international conventions against the exploitation of children since the 1980s. In 2003, swimming instructor Stacey Margaret Friel, 21, was reported to have had sex with a 13-year-old boy but faced no charges at the time due to the lack of laws against sexual abuse of boys by women.
/r/MensRights27/11/15 06:03 PM
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I'm pretty sure that's a quote from her defense attorney, not the judge.
/r/MensRights27/11/15 03:35 PM
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Want to really get angry? From Wikipedia: The sexual abuse of boys of any age, including rape, by adult women was fully legal in New Zealand until around 2007. This is despite New Zealand having been party to international conventions against the exploitation of children since the 1980s. In 2003, swimming instructor Stacey Margaret Friel, 21, was reported to have had sex with a 13-year-old boy but faced no charges at the time due to the lack of laws against sexual abuse of boys by women. The swi…
/r/PussyPassDenied27/11/15 06:13 AM
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In sentencing Reriti, Woolford noted women cannot be charged with rape so a charge of sexual violation by unlawful sexual connection was used instead. However what happened in the motel might be "colloquially if not legally known as rape," Woolford said. Not his fault, he was just reading the law and he basically said it should be called rape even though it wasn't.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/11/15 06:10 AM
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But the law is quite clear that gender cannot be a factor. That would be nice. But the judge even sort of complained that this isn't the case - the law states that this was "unlawful sexual connection", but had a man committed the exact same crime it would have been rape. The sentencing is technically the same, but in terms of how it makes people react it's hugely different. The judge basically said that legally it was unlawful sexual connection, but in all practical terms it was rape and that's…
/r/MensRights27/11/15 04:31 AM
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In sentencing Reriti, Woolford noted women cannot be charged with rape so a charge of sexual violation by unlawful sexual connection was used instead. However what happened in the motel might be "colloquially if not legally known as rape," Woolford said. Wow, that's great. Awesome judge. Lawmakers should take heed to that and make it legally known as rape too. The judge declined to impose a minimum period of imprisonment – which means Reriti will be eligible to apply for parole after serving one…
/r/MensRights26/11/15 10:27 PM
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She's on bond - that means she's being held until she can either post the money or until the trial. If she's found guilty we can compare the sentences
/r/MensRights26/11/15 10:07 PM
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Following the release of a recent news article, the Bainbridge Island School District (BISD) has received inquiries that reflect inaccurate perceptions about student access to Legos in Karen Keller’s kindergarten classroom at Blakely Elementary School. In keeping with a science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) education grant, Ms. Keller gave girls a designated time to play with the building toys during a 30-minute 'free-choice' time block in September 2015. This isolated, short-term pra…
/r/MensRights26/11/15 05:39 PM
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She's in jail on $250,000 bond. Hopefully she'll end up going to prison. The guy in the article I linked got 15 years - I doubt she'll get close to that, but even a few years is better than a suspended sentence or probation.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 03:21 PM
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I would if I had an email. Other news sites did a better job anyway though: Hattiesburg woman charged with exploitation of a child Or: Former East Rankin Academy teacher charged with sex crime against student
/r/MensRights26/11/15 03:15 PM
2

Is there not a women's cheerleading program?
/r/MensRights25/11/15 10:15 PM
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Here is the case from September. Interesting that despite the man being 31 and the victim being 13 in this case (a lesser age range, although still a disgusting one) it's called "molestation" while this is called an "inappropriate relationship". The article on the man also calls her "the assaulted child" while this article just calls him the "student". This despite the fact that they were both charged with exactly the same crime ("gratification of lust"). If anyone wants to contact them and brin…
/r/MensRights25/11/15 10:10 PM
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Ah, the rape was "accidental". An excuse that certainly only works for women raping men, and wouldn't even be considered the other way around. But Naggs’ barrister, Paul Higham, asked the jury to have ‘‘in the back of your mind’’ issues of male sexuality and pride, fear, ego and peer group pressure. Are you fucking kidding me. Blaming the victim, another tactic that's only allowed when the victim is a man. She got away with it too. This is from 2009 so I googled her name and she was found not gu…
/r/MensRights25/11/15 04:04 AM
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And yet feminists, not MRAs, are the ones who have left thousands of men to be slaughtered in Syria while evacuating only women and children. Maybe feminism isn't the answer for men after all, huh?
/r/MensRights25/11/15 03:20 AM
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This is a fair point. The article argues that boys need more nurturing than girls to succeed, but ignores large numbers of other studies that have found that, when resources are scarce, girls get far more of them than boys. So it may be that boys and girls both need the same amount of nurturing to succeed, but strained families just give more time, affection, and nurturing to their daughters, thinking their sons are "tough" enough to be fine without it.
/r/MensRights23/11/15 11:44 PM
1

Be prepared to hear arguments about grooming, etc. that could easily be applied to the young boys / men recruited (child soldiers). Anything to excuse female violence. Don't be silly, grooming only applies to women and children soldiers. Men who fight, even if they are drugged or forced into it at gunpoint and under threat of being burned alive, are just evil sick terrorist bastards.
/r/MensRights23/11/15 05:11 AM
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Again, only women deserve safety and security. Men, for some reason, don't. Men are in far more danger than women in Syria. Men are conscripted, killed at a far higher rate, etc, and yet are the only ones we won't help. It's disgusting, and those who approved it are disgusting individuals. Young men truly are looked upon as the disposable trash of society. For the time between turning 18 and becoming a father your life quite literally has 0 value to society. They will kidnap you and send you to …
/r/MensRights23/11/15 04:43 AM
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There's a difference between accepting lesbians and trans girls and accepting boys. Lesbians and trans girls are still girls, so get the privileges associated with being female. Boys are lesser and don't deserve those privileges.
/r/MensRights23/11/15 04:38 AM
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So we can assume they're okay with boys becoming girl scouts then, right? But no, they'll start talking about safe spaces and all that which is apparently a right that's reserved solely for women and girls. Boys and men don't deserve to feel safe or wanted anywhere, ever.
/r/MensRights23/11/15 02:34 AM
2

Maximum of 9 years in prison? For molesting 4 different victims? I'm guessing 20 days in jail with work release.
/r/MensRights21/11/15 05:32 PM
1

Do different Australian states have different laws? I remember in an earlier story about an Australian woman accused of raping a 12 year old boy I looked up the law she was being charged under and found this It defines rape as "sexual penetration" without consent but then goes on to specify that this includes forcing someone to penetrate you as well as the reverse.
/r/MensRights21/11/15 07:01 AM
2

Do you know the possible sentence she may face for this appeal? Not really. I only know about what I've seen by looking through prior cases, and guessing that this case is more serious and with less mitigating circumstances so it would seem like the punishment should be more severe. But there are tons of other circumstances to consider. Those were mostly 30-something or older women with 15 year old boys, which may be considered more harshly than a 21 year old woman. Apparently she was "immature"…
/r/MensRights21/11/15 04:30 AM
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I agree with you, but in this case she was convicted. They just decided not to punish her is all.
/r/MensRights21/11/15 04:20 AM
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It already has. The petition was just to get the attorney general to review the case under the "unduly lenient" scheme, a UK thing which allows the attorney general to appeal lenient sentences for serious crimes like rape, murder, and child sex abuse. He has already agreed to review it and decided to appeal, and it's set to go before an appeals court in early December. Just earlier this week a female teacher who sexually abused her 15 year old student had her suspended sentence replaced with jai…
/r/MensRights20/11/15 11:20 PM
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She deserved serious jail time and I hope she gets it with the appeal I'm thinking it's incredibly likely she will. Just earlier this week a UK appeals court sent a 30 year old single mother with a small child to 2 years in jail for sex with a 15 year old boy after ruling a suspended sentence was unduly lenient. Earlier this year appeals courts in the UK sentenced two women to jail for sex with 14-15 year old boys after also finding suspended sentences unduly lenient, and last fall there was a s…
/r/MensRights20/11/15 11:16 PM
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That petition has already been successful, as the attorney general has appealed and a court date has been set (Dec 8 I think). But I'd still sign it anyway for visibility's sake. It's nice to show that there is widespread support for justice for this kid. If you don't mind, I might link to this higher up to get it more visibility. I hate to admit it but this comment on the petition, signed Dave Salisbury, kind of made me laugh (while also being 100% accurate): Absolutely absurd! Having been invo…
/r/MensRights20/11/15 11:01 PM
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I've heard it before. Like "There is no excuse for this, period." In that sense.
/r/MensRights20/11/15 10:51 PM
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It's British for "period" or something similar.
/r/MensRights20/11/15 10:09 PM
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It's sad that you're being downvoted because you're totally right.
/r/MensRights20/11/15 07:42 PM
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They would publish it, they would just (rightly) use it to show how horrible he is, not as some sick sort of justification like they did here. So I was fucking this 11 year old girl and she was really, really enjoying it. It's even worse than that though. It's more like "I was fucking this 11 year old girl and she was really, really enjoying it even though she was telling me to stop"
/r/MensRights20/11/15 07:34 PM
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I posted this more to demonstrate her complete delusion and the fact that she got to leave court having admitted raping a kid and still believing she did nothing wrong. I changed the title because I thought the posting of her dating profile was unhelpful.
/r/MensRights20/11/15 06:45 PM
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Yes. She will have to register for 7 years, and she's not allowed to be alone with young boys for 2 years. It doesn't really mean anything though. It doesn't really have all the devastating effects as it does in the US. It won't actually effect her life in any way. So, in reality, she's faced 0 consequences for her actions.
/r/MensRights20/11/15 05:45 PM
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I think this quote does a good job at showing how pathetic these suspended sentences for female pedophiles are. When you have an adult allowed to admit to sexually abusing an 11 year old and walk free without any sort of punishment still thinking they did nothing wrong because the victim was "asking for it", that's a problem. At least the sentence will be reviewed though. Edit: /u/ThunderousJellyfish pointed out that you can sign a petition calling for her to be jailed here. Technically the peti…
/r/MensRights20/11/15 04:29 PM
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You can't retract consent that you were never able to give in the first place, though.
/r/MensRights18/11/15 04:32 PM
1

I hardly think punishing adults for having sex with children is "unjust suffering" and I think it's beyond ridiculous that you guys are comparing people who rape children to slaves who run away.
/r/MensRights18/11/15 03:11 PM
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Sure, but 2 years, even getting out after 1, is a world away from walking free. I mean think about it - spending the next year of your life in jail doing nothing all day vs doing a weekend or two of picking up garbage while going on with your daily life. One is a serious punishment that would probably make you regret your actions and deter others while the other you would basically think you got away with it.
/r/MensRights18/11/15 02:42 AM
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People who abuse kids belong in jail in my opinion. The challenge is getting them to protect boys the same way they demand girls be protected.
/r/MensRights17/11/15 10:37 PM
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Didn't say it wasn't serious, just that it doesn't look like it meets the criteria for an "unduly lenient" appeal.
/r/MensRights17/11/15 06:35 PM
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I'm not sure if that's allowed. Apparently the only sentences you can appeal as unduly lenient are "serious violent crimes" such as rape, robbery, or murder, child sex crimes, child cruelty, threats to kill, serious fraud, serious drug crimes, and racially or religiously motivated crimes. http://findlaw.co.uk/law/criminal/sentencing/8020.html It doesn't seem like false accusations would fall under that umbrella.
/r/MensRights17/11/15 05:34 PM
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Her suspended sentence prompted outrage and several individuals complained to the Attorney General's Office that it was unduly lenient. Thanks to everyone who emailed the Attorney General's office when this news story first came out. The news media is still calling her "glamorous", which is disgusting, but at least she's going to jail now.
/r/MensRights17/11/15 04:12 PM
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This article does a good job of showing how this sort of thing can have just as bad of an effect on boys as it can on girls. He was suffering so much that he came forward, 10 years later, on his own to report the abuse after it was destroying his relationship. Clearly not "lucky" or anything as some people seem to insist. Matthew Kirk, in mitigation, said: “These offences occurred at a time of a very considerable low point in her life, as a young woman who throughout her childhood into adulthood…
/r/MensRights14/11/15 07:43 PM
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He was 10 years old.
/r/MensRights13/11/15 05:13 AM
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He was 10 years old.
/r/MensRights13/11/15 04:59 AM
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No, she was remanded into custody without bail to await her sentencing.
/r/MensRights13/11/15 04:57 AM
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New Zealand is one of those countries where women can't be guilty of rape, by definition. But New Zealand is probably the worst of them all. From Wikipedia: The sexual abuse of boys of any age, including rape, by adult women was fully legal in New Zealand until around 2007. This is despite New Zealand having been party to international conventions against the exploitation of children since the 1980s. In 2003, swimming instructor Stacey Margaret Friel, 21, was reported to have had sex with a 13-y…
/r/MensRights13/11/15 04:54 AM
2

And this right here is why we get accused of being victim blaming assholes.
/r/MensRights13/11/15 12:23 AM
2

I always thought Nightwish was pretty good.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 08:09 PM
1

He admitted to the posts. The teachers themselves were found guilty.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 05:44 PM
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This teacher's post embodies everything that's wrong with how society views men and boys as victims of sexual abuse, and the fact that he can go on Facebook and call out two students at his school and blame them for reporting their sexual abuse yet still keep his job is rather disgusting.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 04:03 AM
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I'm trying to think of some justification for this. Like maybe she was really drunk and he wasn't so much there to protect her as guide her home? If it was a really safe neighborhood I could sort of kind of see someone doing that... The fact remains that no family would ever send their 12 year old daughter to escort a drunk adult man home from a party, because families would be protective of their daughters. The point here is that they need to learn to be protective of their sons too.
/r/MensRights12/11/15 03:57 AM
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