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yenners/r/seduction21/01/12 08:41 AM
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Constant rejection can be brutal. But those who succeed will persist. And the only way you get better is practice. Think of yourself as a novice and treat it as a learning experience. Build on positive experience and figure out what you could have done differently on negative ones. You don't expect someone who has hardly ever lifted weight before to do a 350lb squat. Or how many times does it take to hit your own personal record on a lift. Hell youre a musician so you know what it takes to be go…
/r/seduction30/06/17 06:33 PM
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I'm 100% asian live in the Midwest so I feel ur pain my fellow Asian bro. I've had a fair amount of success with women. I'm no lady killer by any means. You might look good on the outside but you gotta feel good on the inside. Be interesting, do interesting things. What are your dates usually like? Is it just boring dinners or are they fun? I've never been on tinder but internet dating usually doesn't pan out well for us asian men. Tinder and those dating apps are more visual and let's face it A…
/r/seduction30/06/17 06:15 PM
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Smile more or either use it to your advantage. Not everyone has to be the happy go lucky type. Some chicks dig the serious brooding type.
/r/seduction09/02/16 04:15 PM
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Don't be afraid to make moves. Don't feel like you need to take her out on dates and treat her like a lady and then make a move. I think you are trying to figure out what she wants when you really don't know. You guys cuddled all night that shows some level of trust and intimacy already. You're making excuses on why you didn't have the courage to do what you really wanted. But to answer your question just go hang out with her. Invite her out with you and some friends or go do something fun go on…
/r/seduction02/01/16 08:52 PM
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I think you are too focused on sex. I know that's the end game for many people in this subreddit and the one thing that matters. But that's just a small part of life. Just go out there and make real connections with real people. Real people with real emotions, not just a number attached to "HB". Who cares if it takes 1 dates 2 dates 9 dates or never? Enjoy the present moment, and stop worrying about what will or won't happen.
/r/seduction28/02/15 06:37 AM
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Your issue with not getting further with her isn't due to the fact that you are paying for dinner. It probably has to do with literally everything else. I wasn't on the date with you so I have no idea where you might be falling short. As far as her using you for dates, if that is a concern to you, do things that don't cost money or a trivial amount of money and fun. She might be using you for dates, if that's the case she isn't worth your time. But if she's a great girl and you enjoy the fuck ou…
/r/seduction28/02/15 04:43 AM
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I typically see a lot of advocates for the woman paying or splitting the bill in these types of circumstances. And if they don't pay or split it then they aren't worth your time yada yada. Honestly, who cares? I don't think this stuff matters too much. For me personally, I always pay and I don't care about it. I enjoy taking care of the girls I date and making them feel special. And there's just so much less thinking and stress when I know I'm going to pay. I don't have to sit there and think ho…
/r/seduction28/02/15 04:29 AM
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Awesome job. Good luck on your date. I'm asian too, so represent!
/r/seduction10/12/12 10:54 PM
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The only person that seems disillusioned is you. I'm not trying to be mean, but rather helpful. It seems like you need to put her down to being an egotistical bitch in order for you to feel better about the silent treatment she is giving you. Also, the idea of the reason she isn't responding because she feels awkward so that means she feels something is utter bullshit. She isn't responding because she isn't interested. If she felt some sort of attraction she would have responded. Your thesis of …
/r/seduction07/12/12 05:34 AM
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Yup, exactly.
/r/seduction06/12/12 05:53 PM
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or Asian. I think okcupid came out with some research showing how racist men and women are.
/r/seduction06/12/12 06:36 AM
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I think you're being a bit overly defensive. He's just explaining why saying something like that will give you the response you are getting. You're making a lot of assumption about who SwissPUA and his mentality towards women without actually knowing. You also don't have much to stand on with the whole, I just want to give a girl a compliment for the sake of giving her a compliment when you are in a seduction community. Most of the responses here will be on how to seduce a woman. So if that's no…
/r/seduction24/11/12 03:43 AM
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Omg. I gave the worst description of it possible and you found it. Awesome. Have an upvote.
/r/seduction10/11/12 08:28 PM
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Ugh, there was a great comic that displayed exactly this and I can't find it or remember what comic it was :(. Help please?
/r/seduction10/11/12 08:46 AM
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Man... You can't really have the mindset that you are going to off yourself unless you find a girl. Imagine that kind of baggage you bring to any girl you approach and the amount of pressure you are putting on the situation and her. It's just not really fair, and you're setting yourself up for failure. So it's like, you won't find a girl if you are suicidal, and you'll commit suicide if you don't find a girl. You need to break this cycle, because I don't want you to die man. Just judging by your…
/r/seduction27/10/12 10:47 AM
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Wear clothes that fit properly. Most guys I know wear shirts and jeans that look way too big for them. It doesn't matter if it's nice or expensive, but if they don' fit right, then you just look like a tard. And stop wearing polos. Nothing says, I don't know how to dress than buying the same lacoste shirt in 5 different colors.
/r/seduction25/10/12 05:43 AM
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I would just be honest as fuck. You'll be shocked at how far that gets you. "Ya, I've been reading ways on how to initiate conversations with women. Normally it works unless someone else reads the same thing and asks the same person. Then it just gets weird."
/r/seduction20/10/12 05:43 AM
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I think you need to be willing to let it go in order to demonstrate that you will not chase. I just think you're trying a little too hard to make her laugh through text, and your opener felt canned. Texting sucks. It ignores a few huge thing on building attraction, such as, eye contact, body language, touch. You need to do a bit more work when you're actually there so the day 2 becomes easy because you're this awesome guy who she cannot wait to see again. Also, stop texting and start calling. It…
/r/seduction14/10/12 09:22 PM
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That's exactly my point. You are wasting your day by sleeping until the afternoon. It really doesn't matter what day it is, and lets not pretend like you have zero work you could be doing for your classes on a Saturday. I don't care that you actually do this from time to time, but honestly, it's your attitude that is repulsive. You are trying to use the excuse of, ya, i'm finding sexual partners and smoking bud like you're bragging about how cool you are. I'm saying, that doesn't make you cool. …
/r/seduction24/09/12 02:44 AM
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ty
/r/seduction24/09/12 02:38 AM
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Sorry but this doesn't make you cool or a man. Wake up early, work out, get your work done, and conquer the rest of your day. Waking up at 3pm is nothing to be proud of, and being in college isn't an excuse. Most people can't handle college and flunk out because they can't handle the freedom or exercise any type self-discipline. Nothing makes a woman wetter than a man that looks like they got their shit together. So stop faking your confidence and earn it.
/r/seduction23/09/12 10:01 AM
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I personally don't think this makes a difference except the fact that you got a number from a girl who didn't want to give it to you, which will only result in flakes. In your story, there was a good chance you were already going to get that number no matter how you asked, so that doesn't really prove anything. What you guys should be doing is setting up the date there, and then asking for the number. "Hey, I had a really great time, and I'd like to see you again, how does Thursday sound?" "Soun…
/r/seduction23/09/12 09:57 AM
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You sound scared. I was once you. I hung on to a relationship, and did a lot of the things you did, because I was afraid of being alone and not in a relationship. To me, being in a shitty relationship was better than not being in one. I think the best thing you can do is to be willing to let her go. And by that I mean, not necessarily break up with her, but you need to have the mentality that you don't have to be in an unhappy situation if you choose not to be. Once you obtain this mindset, you …
/r/seduction13/09/12 11:52 PM
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Yes, how do you know what you can or cannot accomplish if you don't push your comfort zones. Some of my biggest failures have given me the most confidence. I remember my worst fear coming true. I got called a creep when approaching. It hurt pretty bad, but after a few days, I realized. I just faced my worst fear, and I'm still here. After that I gave no fucks.
/r/seduction29/08/12 12:48 AM
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Checkout nofap, most ED in younger men are caused by an addiction to porn.
/r/seduction17/08/12 07:06 PM
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Your race matters for less than 5 seconds. Always remember that. You can have all the negative stereotypes about a person, but those can be shattered within seconds of talking to someone. I'll admit that I'm a little racist towards black people. Some stereotypes I have about them is that they are dishonest, cheaters, irresponsible, dangerous, gangster and stupid. But guess what, if a well dressed black man comes up to me and talks to me, friendly, funny, and intelligent, I'm not going to think a…
/r/seduction03/08/12 10:15 PM
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If you are talking to other people and referring to a fuck buddy sure. But when a stranger comes up and starts "seducing" the woman, usually the only reason this comes up is because she is rejecting you because she has a boyfriend. Otherwise it wouldn't come up unless asked.
/r/seduction29/07/12 08:38 AM
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Except most people in open relationships, don't say they have a boyfriend.
/r/seduction29/07/12 06:47 AM
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I definitely leave the girl alone. For a couple reasons. 1. It's most likely going to be a waste of time trying to bed a girl in a relationship. 2. I don't want to be the reason, or atleast part of the reason that someone cheated on their boyfriend. I know how I would feel, and I would be crushed if my GF cheated on me. 3. It goes against the idea of abundance. There are PLENTY of SINGLE girls out there. There is no reason why you should ever have to feel the need to bed someone else's girl. I r…
/r/seduction29/07/12 06:42 AM
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How do you balance between a constant path towards improvement, and loving the moment you are in. I generally find the two clash, since the reason you want to improve (make more money, more girls, work out more) is because you aren't happy with your current situation.
/r/seduction25/07/12 07:38 AM
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Not after CSI
/r/seduction10/06/12 09:57 PM
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I only read the title, but if you had any advice besides, you don't have to deal with the one upper then you're wrong. One uppers do this because they are trying to gain more social value, but by doing so, they've already established that they don't have any. So.. there's nothing to be done. They've already put themselves in a place where people are like, dude, that guy is annoying/sucks
/r/seduction20/04/12 08:27 PM
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Nice job. What do you have in store for april? My suggestion, stop using openers and learn how to have conversations.
/r/seduction03/04/12 01:38 AM
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Eye contact
/r/seduction12/03/12 01:45 AM
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Worst thing to do is ask me to buy you a drink.
/r/seduction12/03/12 01:38 AM
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The way I see it is that you are too focused on one girl. There are plenty of available beautiful women out there. You might be able to even find better and your real soul mate. Honestly, if you are just that fun, cool, guy, instead of the guy that's feeling/acting desperate, when she does breakup with her man, you're going to be the first person she calls.
/r/seduction05/03/12 03:54 PM
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They are teaching you to fake it until you make it. But you haven't actually made it yet. I'm not saying this is the wrong approach to eventually become "alpha", I'm simply stating that anyone who actually is, doesn't have to say it. They just are, and everyone knows it. A fish doesn't constantly tell himself, I'm a fish.. I'm a fish.. I'm a fish. He knows he's a fish, and everyone knows he's a fish.
/r/seduction05/03/12 03:35 PM
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In what way am I being hypocritical? I'm not asking you to apologize for your sexuality, I'm asking you to be HONEST with it. So.. yes she's awesome, and she's beautiful, and you'd like to be friends with her, but not only that.. MORE THAN FRIENDS. She knows this, I know this, you know this. That's why she doesn't want to hang out with you because we all know what your intentions are, and what you really want despite not saying it directly. That's why she declined your offer to see a movie.. and…
/r/seduction05/03/12 03:31 PM
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I didn't disagree with that, I simply said that someone who is actually alpha doesn't have to say that they are. Everyone just fucking knows it.
/r/seduction05/03/12 03:07 PM
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Ok, so why are you posting this in a SEDUCTION forum if you just want to be friends with her? Also you're evaluating her in a sexual context, (HB10). So you have no intention of wanting to fuck this girl? It's ok to want to fuck girls that have good personalities... I really don't understand why you're trying to make a distinction.. because she has a good personality you don't want to have sex with her? You also have never said that you DONT want to get in her pants if you want to play that game…
/r/seduction05/03/12 03:06 PM
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Anyone who has to say they are alpha, isn't. And if you went to art school for film.. which you didn't, you should know that it's type casting and not tight casting. Also, you never answered whether or not you are really working on a screen play. I assume since you avoided my question and answered a completely different question, that you aren't. Alpha guys don't have to lie about what they are doing to get in a woman's pants.
/r/seduction05/03/12 02:34 PM
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She's turning you down because you want to bang her and she has a boyfriend... wtf?
/r/seduction05/03/12 02:29 PM
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Are you really working on a screen play, because you don't even know basic terminology. If you aren't, I don't recommend lying to her.
/r/seduction05/03/12 02:26 PM
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it is.
/r/seduction05/03/12 02:25 PM
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Honesty. Not all women want a relationship.
/r/seduction29/02/12 01:12 AM
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Here's my problem with this line... It only works if you truly believe it. The problem with it is that up until this point, she probably has a pretty good idea that you like her. So springing this line on her seems like a lame attempt to try and get out of the friend zone. Don't only use this as a line.. BELIEVE it.
/r/seduction29/02/12 01:07 AM
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Just remember. The greater the risk, the greater the reward.
/r/seduction28/02/12 05:32 AM
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Ya that counts.
/r/seduction28/02/12 05:13 AM
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Wow. That was some impressive dialogue.
/r/seduction25/02/12 08:55 AM
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First of all, it's all about the baby steps. So, nice job getting some balls and talking to atleast one set. It will get easier with time. Don't worry about what your friends think. If you have the balls to go talk to some women, then go do it. Hell, invite them over after a few minutes and have a great time with the new people you met. They aren't going to be like, oh man, you totally invited us over to talk to beautiful women, you suck. Even if you don't feel like inviting them over, just go d…
/r/seduction25/02/12 08:14 AM
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Nice. Why you leaving though? Pay it forward IMO.
/r/seduction25/02/12 07:52 AM
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No, and then fuck her raw!
/r/seduction23/02/12 09:19 PM
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Isn't inner game about accepting who you are though? Atleast that's how I see it.
/r/seduction23/02/12 06:22 PM
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Only if you jerk me off too. I'm not a whore.
/r/seduction23/02/12 07:48 AM
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This belongs in /r/circlejerk.
/r/seduction23/02/12 07:44 AM
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Wow, you're kind of a douchebag. Just let her move on with her life and move on with yours. You're only going to hurt her, and it doesn't seem like you give a fuck. The only reason why she is texting you is because she isn't over you yet, and you're going to use her vulnerability and emotions for your own personal gain. If you're looking for a challenge, go try having a three some, or fuck some super hot girls. Or try pulling your foreskin over your head.
/r/seduction23/02/12 06:55 AM
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To be perfectly honest, my text game blows. I'm still trying to figure that out at the moment. I'd most likely not make any effort in contacting her if she doesn't invite you. Obviously you see her at work, pretend like nothing happened, give value, act cool, but don't chase. Then after awhile, I'd say, hey, lets do yada yada. I had a girl flake on me. I ignore her for a week. Chat her up with some casual conversation, then ask her out a few days later. That seems to be what's working best for m…
/r/seduction23/02/12 04:55 AM
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To me, it's already pretty apparent that you've displayed interest in going. If she wants you to go, she'll get you that address. Until then, you can either wait, or build more attraction so maybe she'll send you that address.
/r/seduction23/02/12 04:33 AM
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Holy fucking shit. That guy is good. What show is this?
/r/seduction23/02/12 04:30 AM
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I actually hate you.
/r/seduction22/02/12 05:37 PM
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I'm confused as to how the interaction goes. "Hey whatsup blank" No answer. Then you send the text? Or have you been texting and then setup a date and she doesn't respond? It just seems odd to say that line without some type of things planned.
/r/seduction21/02/12 04:41 PM
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I'm going because I've never gone before and want to experience something new and different. I'm not going to meet girls, but if I see a good looking one, I want to know what's appropriate and not. PLUR it is!
/r/seduction21/02/12 01:20 AM
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Indy
/r/seduction21/02/12 12:07 AM
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Is it like one huge after party? Or is it like, hey come to my house for an afterparty.
/r/seduction20/02/12 10:48 PM
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It's aoki/mord fustang at some kind of lounge it looks like.
/r/seduction20/02/12 10:45 PM
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I would try to help him out, and have fun with it, and pick up a few for yourself while you're helping him.
/r/seduction20/02/12 07:41 PM
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How did you do this?
/r/seduction20/02/12 07:37 AM
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When I'm the guy that is fun, people want to be around me. Example, bartender is buying me drinks, trying to set me up with her sister. Walk into places without getting my ID checked b/c I chat the bouncers up so they remember me. Ask a waitress how her night's been going. Ask her name, she asks me mine. She says she'll remember me. Met a pretty cool dude new to the area, gonna show him around. PEople start coming up to me, because they see I'm fun and want to hang around me. When I approach a g…
/r/seduction19/02/12 10:59 PM
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You're saying something she already knows. If she doesn't want it, she won't try to contact you. It sounds to me that you are trying to justify what you did, when you don't have to. If she wants to talk about it, sure. But I wouldn't bring it up. And then I'd probably act like I didn't even notice that she was mad. (That just makes them try even harder to get your attention) And just hit her up later to go out some time.
/r/seduction19/02/12 10:30 PM
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lol.. you're fucking brilliant...
/r/seduction19/02/12 04:32 PM
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Funny thing is, I am actually a poker master. But, I totally get that I'm sure some of my emotions seeped through into my actions. I should have talked with her friends more and ignored her. I fucked that part up. I was thinking, how can I get physical and gain her attention (needy), instead of having just a fun time, because fun follows me (value).
/r/seduction19/02/12 04:20 PM
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Thanks for the insight. I shouldn't have texted her, I came off as jealous and needy. How do you suggest I proceed from here?
/r/seduction19/02/12 04:03 PM
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Good post. You being a nice guy isn't why you aren't getting laid. I read a great article about the friend zone. Nice guys who never have the balls to ask a girl out or make a move, and then cry and bitch about it. Hell I was in the friendzone for 13 years. I still am, but I don't care anymore because we're just friends now. But, before I found seddit, I thought it was her fault. Why can't she see that I'll do ANYTHING for her, and that I love her, and that I will be there at her every whim when…
/r/seduction18/02/12 10:45 PM
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http://www.rsdnation.com/node/193591/forum
/r/seduction17/02/12 07:10 PM
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I love a girl in heels.
/r/seduction17/02/12 07:04 PM
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So you only want people's advice who've been slapped in the face? I've had my share of horrific blowouts, and I know I could have reacted better to them. The fact is that this wasn't even a blowout. It's not like you actually even did anything to warrant that. But you decided to nurse your ego, instead of act like a man. I probably would have walked away at first, but if she came back to me and started apologizing. I would have said, "turn around" slap her on the ass, "now we're even". You could…
/r/seduction17/02/12 06:46 PM
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I'm 100% certain that it was her friends. I'd shoot her one more text. I mean, worst that happens is she blows you off again.
/r/seduction17/02/12 06:25 PM
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You kinda sound like a bitch. What she did was fucked up, and I've definitely had those moments where my ego felt like it was shattered. But you reacted very poorly. Think about what you could have done to improve your reaction.
/r/seduction17/02/12 06:19 PM
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Hi, shit eating grin
/r/seduction17/02/12 06:10 PM
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Stop being results oriented. Who the fuck cares if you get blown off? I get blown off non stop, and it doesn't even bother me anymore. Not even a little bit. I still get AA, but honestly, if they reject me, I seriously feel nothing. Here's a tip, get blown off.. ALOT. That means you are trying a lot, and you will just naturally improve through experience.
/r/seduction17/02/12 06:09 PM
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Maybe your body language and tone wasn't great. Maybe she doesn't handle compliments well. If you think it's you, then try to fix it. If it's not, then oh well, props to going up to her and conquering your AA.
/r/seduction16/02/12 11:34 PM
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Agree with this completely. Just wrote something similar before I saw this.
/r/seduction16/02/12 12:03 AM
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Your game should be, unreactive, fun, awesome, non-needy, always. You know how to be different than other guys around hot girls? Treat them like a normal person. Not a pedestal which 99.9% of people are doing.
/r/seduction16/02/12 12:01 AM
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I hate the it's her loss mentality. I think by having that mentality you deflect any type of personal responsibility.
/r/seduction15/02/12 08:47 PM
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The fact that you think you need to work harder implies that she has higher value than you. You've already lost and you haven't even begun. To further clarify, if your inner game isn't sharp, and you are changing who you are and what you're doing in order to "attract" a hotter woman, then you are assuming that who you are presently isn't good enough for her. So work on your inner game, build that value from within. Be awesome. And don't change the way you treat them. Assume that you have more va…
/r/seduction15/02/12 08:38 PM
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Stop categorizing them as HB7's and 8's. Just treat them all the same.
/r/seduction15/02/12 08:06 PM
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What is your thoughts on the seddit community, and which direction would you like to see it go? Who are the best PUA's to learn from?
/r/seduction14/02/12 04:57 PM
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I don't think energy has anything to do with it. I mean I guess you need a little to function, but beyond that, I doubt it's all that helpful. If you just need more energy, I highly suggest working out and not jerking off. I seriously have infinite energy when I do those two things.
/r/seduction14/02/12 06:28 AM
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You read her background, not her actions. What did her actions tell you?
/r/seduction14/02/12 04:36 AM
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Ya. Trust me.. you won't do it again. I fuck up all the time, and it hurts. I rarely repeat my mistakes. As long as you realize what you did wrong. Nice guys are needy guys. Don't be the nice guy. Doesn't mean you have to be an asshole, but she didn't FEEL that you took advantage of her in anyway, until you brought it up.. You apologized when there was no need for an apology. You have a mindset that you are taking something from a girl if you have sex with her. So, you felt like you "took" somet…
/r/seduction14/02/12 04:03 AM
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I'm the same way. What you and I have done is we have built out confidence around alcohol. We just need to talk more sober, and get that experience in that state of mind to improve.
/r/seduction13/02/12 11:19 PM
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I think dressing one level above is good, but going too far makes you look like a retard. Like wearing a suit to a baseball game. Sure you'll stand out, but people will be like wtf.
/r/seduction13/02/12 11:17 PM
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Yes, it seems like you are the fun guy. I know a friend like that. He gives off great energy, never serious, aloof, and absolutely hilarious. Girls CHASE him.. and they chase him hard. Every facebook update he does is funny, and there's atleast 3 girls playfully fighting over him. The funniest part is, he's not even the type of guy that wants to have one night stands. He wants a relationship, so he's rejecting girls non stop. I think this drives them absolutely nuts. Anyway, I got off topic. How…
/r/seduction13/02/12 08:36 PM
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Silence is golden my friend.
/r/seduction12/02/12 03:40 PM
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I'd love some examples.
/r/seduction11/02/12 10:24 PM
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None taken. I'm here to improve myself. Maybe my body language isn't as good as I think it is. I strongly believe that there is some reason this is happening to me.
/r/seduction10/02/12 07:16 PM
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Great post. Can you please some examples of giving value without being a doormat? I really want to be that guy, and I know of a guy in my social group that is completely like that. My real question is, how do I pursue sex, while still giving value? Should sex be the byproduct of the value and never the focus? How do you escalate and turn things sexual? Say like, I volunteer at a local soup kitchen, or help old ladies cross the street, my personal value escalated, but perhaps irrelevant in a soci…
/r/seduction10/02/12 07:09 PM
1

Great post. I have a question though. If your intention isn't sex, don't they just friend zone you? I've had lots of female friends.. but it always usually just stays like that. I go out to dinner with them, movies, grab a drink, hang out etc. etc. etc. I can think of atleast 5 girls I know that this has happened to me with. And how do you view the interaction if the object isn't sex? I'm not saying the intention should be sex.. I just don't know how to view it because when I just have fun hang …
/r/seduction10/02/12 07:03 PM
1

My guess is that you aren't building enough attraction. You are probably establishing a lot of rapport, but like me, you probably fall into the area where you are afraid to let your intentions be known. So you sit, converse, and don't try to escalate/kino in the hopes that she'll just somehow fall madly for your great conversational skills. Maybe try setting up a date, then getting a number.
/r/seduction10/02/12 05:55 PM
1

These technically aren't amogs, do you think the tactics would be the same?
/r/seduction10/02/12 12:49 AM
1

I was wearing a nice dress shirt and jeans in a club.
/r/seduction10/02/12 12:49 AM
1

Focus on the process and constantly improving your game. You even know yourself that what you are exhibiting is unattractive behavior. So why should you see results? Focus on improving, and be happy that you are improving. That is what is important.
/r/seduction09/02/12 11:16 PM
5

Seems like you played it right. Honest with your intentions. It's ok if she doesn't want to just hook up and wants something more. Move on.
/r/seduction09/02/12 11:12 PM
1

How can you suspect that I wasn't dressed well? I was dressed better than most people in the club. My body language perhaps may have been a problem? Although, I'm not sure. I just feel like most people are pussies, and then when they see that the girl is susceptible to being opened, they think they can come crash the party. It's bull shit, they are trying to get a free ride.
/r/seduction09/02/12 11:07 PM
1

It's because "bad boys" aren't needy. Trust me, a girl will absolutely love a non needy nice guy. You don't have to treat them like crap, but you don't have to let them walk all over you either.
/r/seduction09/02/12 11:05 PM
2

only as self defense :(
/r/seduction09/02/12 07:14 PM
2

I'm not huge, I'm about 190 5'11''. Pretty athletic. Not sure if race might have something to do with it. I'm Asian, so I think in general I don't seem very threatening.
/r/seduction09/02/12 06:43 PM
1

Good post man. Take it slow. If you try to do too much too soon, it will seem overwhelming and focus on the process not the results. About a month ago, I was literally 0/0 on cold approaches. I'm still very new at this, but have improved a thousand times over. I really like your tool analogy. Most people have all the tools, but don't know how to use them. This is what seddit is about. Learning to use your tools.
/r/seduction09/02/12 06:41 PM
47

I've debated pulling the simple pick up move. "Do you know this guy?" "No." Pick her up and move her away from the guy.
/r/seduction09/02/12 09:02 AM
2

The funny thing is, the guys that are a creep about this never get laid. IF they are like "oh c'mon baby, blah blah blah" it makes her not trust you. The guys that are cool that put zero pressure on her to have sex, that's the guy she wants to bang.
/r/seduction08/02/12 10:52 PM
1

Except that you make the assumption that I can just walk outside and there will be women (there aren't), and that the first woman I talk to will give me her number. This will atleast take 1-2 hours of my time per day, which I don't have. If the goal is to just talk to any person then sure.. 10 minutes might be all it takes.
/r/seduction08/02/12 10:43 PM
1

I think this is a great, fun, idea. But there is no reason why it can't be adjustable based on your circumstances. Some people just don't have the time to get in state 6 days a week. I think it would be more fun if everyone could participate but set their own goals.
/r/seduction08/02/12 08:06 PM
1

It is six a week one per day. I'm saying 6 total for the week instead of one per day. Because I don't interact with people 6 times a week.
/r/seduction08/02/12 07:03 PM
1

I want to do this... 6 seems too high, and I don't leave my aptment every day (work from home) Can we do 6 for the week? I usually go out Wed-Sat.
/r/seduction08/02/12 06:17 PM
2

chop our dicks in half and balance each other out imo.
/r/seduction06/02/12 05:47 AM
1

So.. I'm just always gonna be like this? :(
/r/seduction06/02/12 05:36 AM
1

You don't think there is a way I can approach the situation to be less emotionally involved while still maintaining the sexual relationship?
/r/seduction06/02/12 04:39 AM
1

How do I keep myself detached? I feel like my ideal situation is to date 3-4 girls and hooking up with randoms. But if I keep getting attached to one after sleeping with them after a few times.. not sure how that is possible.
/r/seduction06/02/12 03:41 AM
1

We're both leaving soon. So there is no future. And I've always been the relationship guy. I want to see what else is out there before I settle down. I don't to go 4 year relationship after 4 year relationship, and have my experience with different types of women be non existent.
/r/seduction06/02/12 03:40 AM
1

What about a short term monogamous relationship?
/r/seduction06/02/12 01:52 AM
1

What are some indicators of bad. Id be somewhat jealous if she fucked another guy.
/r/seduction06/02/12 01:50 AM
1

Should I stop seeing her?
/r/seduction06/02/12 01:19 AM
1

It doesn't matter though. I can't do a long term thing. I'm leaving soon, and so is she. We've both kind of understand it's a short term fling. I like her because she's super cool and we think similarly on a lot of stuff. Also, it's chemicals as well. I feel like I'm getting more attached to her the more I sleep with her.
/r/seduction06/02/12 12:46 AM
1

What should I do?
/r/seduction05/02/12 10:53 PM
1

It's not what I want. My emotions wants that, but my logic doesn't. I'm moving soon, and it doesn't make sense to.
/r/seduction05/02/12 05:47 PM
2

My issue is that although the girl is cool, my logic is telling me one thing, and my biology is telling me another.
/r/seduction05/02/12 03:21 PM
3

This is definitely a great point.
/r/seduction03/02/12 06:44 PM
8

I've had two 4 year relationships... So...
/r/seduction03/02/12 01:53 AM
17

Yup exactly. I can't tell you how many times that if you just remain confident and comfortable in the silence, and you smile at her. She can't help but smile with you.
/r/seduction02/02/12 11:24 PM
43

Expert tip: This is a great time to compliment a girl too. I did this last night. After some "awkward" attraction building silence for about 3 seconds, I say, "You're seriously one of the most interesting person I've talked to" And I meant it. She was seriously very cool. Make sure it's genuine and relative to how you feel. Don't fake compliment.
/r/seduction02/02/12 11:22 PM
4

Idiot.
/r/seduction02/02/12 01:40 AM
2

It's actually a late date, so I haven't gone yet. I'll write a FR on it.
/r/seduction02/02/12 01:30 AM
2

I did drive
/r/seduction01/02/12 11:18 PM
2

So, do you think it's better to make the second location closer to my place over a fun place? Because then after that location, we could just walk back to my place.
/r/seduction01/02/12 10:02 PM
2

It means touching a girl. Like on the elbow shoulder arm and stuff.
/r/seduction01/02/12 09:52 PM
2

I have so much to learn. lol. Great stuff. TY.
/r/seduction01/02/12 08:50 PM
2

I've heard of stories of people getting fucked by strippers.. but it's rare. It's far more common for you to get fucked by a stripped then fucking a stripper.
/r/seduction01/02/12 04:08 PM
18

Fake account most likely.
/r/seduction01/02/12 06:08 AM
1

That's because I have been. I've spent easily over 5k at Spearmint Rhino in vegas with the promise of sex and more. I was a complete AFC dumbass. I've seen it all. They are moneysucking whores. I have so many fucked up stories.
/r/seduction01/02/12 02:50 AM
-1

America? A lot of strippers prostitute on the side. And a lot of prostitutes have pimps. Get a fucking clue. I'm not surprised that you're getting hustled this easily. Please post a full FR on what happens with proof. I would love to eat my words if I'm wrong. She probably stopped talking to you because she probably figured you weren't going to pay her for sex. xx
/r/seduction01/02/12 02:04 AM
1

I've talked to a stripper for 2 hours and not gotten a dance. Doesn't change anything. Worst case scenario, you sleep with her, she asks for 200 bucks, you say no, she calls her pimp to kick the shit out of you and says that you won't pay. And don't pretend like it matters whether or not you made an "agreement" before or not. It doesn't matter. It's your word against hers.
/r/seduction01/02/12 01:47 AM
1

Do you have 100 dollars to your name? Credit Card?
/r/seduction01/02/12 12:14 AM
2

Oh.. you mean she expressed interest in him because .. it's her JOB? Strippers give men their numbers all the time. And they get fucked all the time.. by their clients. Strippers don't date 22 year old average dudes. They date someone as fucked up and as emotionally unavailable as they are. Strippers have seen every type of person, and have dealt with every kind of guy. I promise you you are not special to them. The fact they are making you think that they are means they are doing great at their…
/r/seduction31/01/12 11:21 PM
0

Ya.. because I'm sure you've fucked so many strippers.
/r/seduction31/01/12 09:49 PM
4

Whoever the fuck is downvoting me, you're stupid as fuck and know nothing about strippers. I've gotten several strippers numbers, and they promise you all this shit.. and as soon as you get to their room, they are gonna ask for cash. I had a girl that wanted to take me to thailand with her. Seriously, get your head out of your asses. There are millionaires, athletes, and whatever that might get fucked in a strip club. Hey bone heads.. these girls WORK FOR MONEY. They sell SEX for MONEY. They don…
/r/seduction31/01/12 09:49 PM
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She's probably trying to get you to sleep with her, then ask for money, then her big black pimp will come if you don't pay her. Stay away seriously.
/r/seduction31/01/12 04:41 PM
3

Date from apoc opener?
/r/seduction31/01/12 05:34 AM
1

How do you crush racial stereotypes? How do you use race to your advantage?
/r/seduction31/01/12 03:13 AM
11

Great guide to being totally boring and uncreative.
/r/seduction30/01/12 06:42 PM
1

I dated a girl for 4 years. I'm 26 now, and wish I stayed single. She was an amazing person, but if you're not ready to marry her, then go be single imo.
/r/seduction30/01/12 05:38 AM
1

Do you goto IU?
/r/seduction30/01/12 05:12 AM
1

If she's ugly, would you buy her a gift?
/r/seduction30/01/12 03:57 AM
5

Stop watching porn.
/r/seduction30/01/12 01:28 AM
2

She was taking a piss. That is just kinda weird to me. So I just tried to tease her a little bit about it. And I think push pulling even in the seduction phase isn't that big of a deal. Although who knows, I did get blown out. She didn't spill the water on my face, it was on the bed, and it was by accident.
/r/seduction29/01/12 11:19 PM
2

This guy is awesome. I love how he's always in the zone and always true to himself. He's honest, straightforward, and genuine.
/r/seduction29/01/12 12:50 AM
2

Where you from?
/r/seduction28/01/12 10:12 PM
2

What do you do if the conversation dies? Or that the girl you are talking to doesn't really help carry any part of the conversation? Or what if she seems disinterested?
/r/seduction28/01/12 08:25 PM
1

Where are some good spots for day game?
/r/seduction28/01/12 08:25 PM
2

I will do this tonight.
/r/seduction28/01/12 08:19 PM
1

Ya, night game. Day game scares me. At a club, women expect to be approached I feel. Day game, I feel like they are just out doing their business and don't want to be bothered. Probably not very true, but I have huge AA when it comes to day game.
/r/seduction28/01/12 08:14 PM
1

I usually go up and introduce myself. I ask them a few basic questions and try to use conversational threading. Sometimes I try and play games like the marry fuck kill game. I probably don't kino nearly enough. Sometimes, when I panic, I turn into survey questions. I don't feel comfortable at all complimenting. I really struggle on having an interesting conversation without my opening question sound like some kind of line. Usually the women I ask for numbers are after we hit it off. I rarely get…
/r/seduction28/01/12 11:11 AM
3

Good shit.
/r/seduction26/01/12 10:49 PM
2

It was a site dedicated to this. This was before I knew about reddit.
/r/seduction25/01/12 10:57 PM
6

I think I found the website.. but it's not up anymore? I think you text people in your phone "Can I tap that?" and then just see what responses you'll get.
/r/seduction25/01/12 09:56 PM
5

Wasn't there some like internet thing going on where people would text something like this to every girl they knew in their phone book, and posted it on the internet? I forgot what the name of the site was called.
/r/seduction25/01/12 09:25 PM
2

Does this stuff happen only in clubs? Or can it happen completely off the street? What about just a low key bar?
/r/seduction25/01/12 07:39 PM
1

When you say they aren't consciously used, to you mean that they just aren't interested period?
/r/seduction24/01/12 04:45 AM
2

I agree. It's kind of funny, neither one of these girls were willing to give me their numbers either, but totally ok with giving me their e-mails. These are the only two e-mail addresses that I have gotten. Maybe some kind of weird correlation between dating Asian men, and only giving out e-mail addresses. Anyway, I suppose talking to a white woman, I could just say, I'm not dating Asians either, and give her a smile or something.
/r/seduction24/01/12 04:44 AM
2

Most pua are ugly.
/r/seduction23/01/12 10:38 PM
1

I have a hard time not taking interactions like this personally. And the reason that I take it personally is that, my belief is that everyone is open to meeting certain people. If some hot guy came up and talked to them, I doubt they would have done that. I just need to get over the fact that I didn't fit in their category. Even if I didn't, there was no reason for that type of reaction.
/r/seduction21/01/12 06:44 PM
0

I actually have learned a few things now that my anger has subsided. Worst case scenario happened to me, and I survived. Not letting some random cunt define who I am. (Still working on this) And most importantly, not giving value to a girl that's hot juts because she's hot. She can be a major cunt still. I'm just going to go up to cute girls that I am attracted to physically, and then they need to attract me with their personality as well. I used to try to validated myself to them, but this ugli…
/r/seduction21/01/12 06:29 PM
1

This is the full story man. Seriously. That's what I'm so pissed off. If I actually did or say something creepy, I would have understood it. But the mere act of approaching her and saying hello creeped her out.
/r/seduction21/01/12 06:27 PM
0

You're a fucking bitch.
/r/seduction21/01/12 01:47 PM
0

It just pissed me off that people would be that rude. I knew they weren't interested, but I couldn't believe that they couldn't even say hi. They thought I was creepy before I even persisted. I don't care how not interested in anyone, I would never not be able to just say hi.
/r/seduction21/01/12 01:45 PM
-2

You're right, should have called her a cunt.
/r/seduction21/01/12 01:43 PM
4

pics
/r/seduction21/01/12 01:39 AM
12

can't tell if .. serious
/r/seduction20/01/12 08:39 PM
1

I agree with everything you said except he's basing his self worth not on getting laid, but whether or not his friends are getting laid. If he's getting the most pussy out of the group, he's probably happier.
/r/seduction19/01/12 09:17 PM
1

I'm a competitor also. A true competitor knows that winning and losing isn't based on results. It's based on whether or not you did everything you could. As the great John Wooden once said, you can lose when you outscore someone, and win when you are outscored.
/r/seduction19/01/12 07:35 PM
2

It's not a competition. Your mindset is all wrong. Stop comparing yourself to other people, that is exactly the opposite of what this is all about. True game is being comfortable with who you are. You want to know why your game is suffering? It's not because of your lack of looks, it's because you haven't fully accepted who you are. Are there guys uglier than you that are getting laid more than you? Yes, they are. If you think about comparison, it's actually pretty stupid. Why should your self w…
/r/seduction19/01/12 06:30 PM
1

Honestly, I think some of the people there make some valid points. I do not consider that rape, but can we stop dehumanizaing women to HB's and use LMR and shit?
/r/seduction19/01/12 05:22 AM
1

uh. why?
/r/seduction19/01/12 01:39 AM
1

Haven't jerked off in 16 days, I will fuck you like I've been in prison for 20 years.
/r/seduction18/01/12 09:41 AM
2

Do you recommend joining the army?
/r/seduction18/01/12 08:28 AM
6

I think it's Plinko. I have had lots of fun when I'm out but never get laid like that. I think I totally spaz out when I find out a girl likes me, or have a hard time approaching girls confidently. Which is why my goals are when I go out is to improve on that. But that seems like a losing proposition as well.
/r/seduction18/01/12 07:30 AM
6

Lol, if you didn't have pool, I would imagine you'd still get laid a lot. So... lets pretend like I asked the same question but said you couldn't play pool.
/r/seduction18/01/12 07:18 AM
8

How do you go upto a girl and talk to her, and then make her chase you? I feel like just the act of approaching her, all my power is gone. I feel like it's upto me to be funny witty interesting etc, asking more questions about her while she gives me one word answers. Also, my goal is to be better with women. And by better with women, I mean fuck them. Is that goal not good because trying to be better with women will ultimately be the reason I fail?
/r/seduction18/01/12 06:48 AM
7

How important is attractiveness?
/r/seduction18/01/12 12:54 AM
1

In college, there was this crazy ass girl that I've never even said a word to, on halloween she straddled me, started making out with me, and we fucked. She later felt like a huge slut and regretted it, and I felt bad for taking advantage of her. She wanted me to take her out to dinner and stuff like that, but I didn't want to. That was my only ONS experience. Also, another instance, a friend of mine had sex with a girl, and she was really drunk, and claimed he raped her. I know my friend and he…
/r/seduction18/01/12 12:18 AM
1

Good point, this makes me feel better about this.
/r/seduction17/01/12 08:59 PM
1

Do you suggest I change my approach? I'm still learning this stuff, and would consider myself an amateur, so I feel very awkward and not congruent when I try to be aggressive.
/r/seduction17/01/12 08:57 PM
2

Do they ever think differently? Do they feel like they had a great time? What do you do if they thought it was something more? I also have a problem with getting physical with women right away. I usually try to talk and converse more, and be genuinely interested in the person. Is this going to put me in boyfriend mode?
/r/seduction17/01/12 08:40 PM
1

So, it's not the act, it's how they feel you treat her afterwards. What would be an example of treating her like shit, and an example of treating her like she's not a slut. I doubt most guys are like.. haha you're such a whore for fucking me! Let me rephrase. What is a common things guys do that make women feel like they regret having sex with you.
/r/seduction17/01/12 08:33 PM
1

Why do women commonly say they regret one night stands then? Do they secretly like them, but pretend they don't because that's what social conditioning dictates?
/r/seduction17/01/12 08:29 PM
2

You can tell a story about literally ANYTHING. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loxJ3FtCJJA
/r/seduction17/01/12 06:02 PM
9

Are you sure she wasn't gonna make you pay? They sometimes can be shady about that, fuck you, expect money, and if they don't, they go find their pimp, and then you pay them.
/r/seduction17/01/12 12:28 AM
-17

Walk the fuck away.
/r/seduction15/01/12 07:47 PM
1

Lesson definitely learned, I talked to 4 girls last night, all of them really cute, I got an e-mail address. Pretty pumped.
/r/seduction14/01/12 03:36 PM
1

Yep, this was the one that made me finally realize that women want me to talk to them.
/r/seduction13/01/12 09:01 PM
1

I just realized why there is such a huge disconnect. You guys seem to think the reason I didn't talk to her was because I was thinking that I don't look good enough to talk to her. That's not it at all. My anxiety is why I didn't. My appearance had nothing to do with why I didn't approach her, but I do think if I put more effort, it increases my likelihood of getting her number after I talk with her, will increase.
/r/seduction13/01/12 08:34 PM
1

You're right man.
/r/seduction13/01/12 08:26 PM
0

She didn't even remember me. Isn't that an issue? Here I am, debating whether or not to ask her out, and she doesn't even know who I am. Don't you think a little bit of humor/confidence and being better dressed would make a difference? I hear this all the time, but good looking people get more chances. If you take two guys one is horrendously ugly, and one is extremely attractive, and they have similar personalities, I'm sorry, but the good looking guy always wins. Always, it's not the same. Cer…
/r/seduction13/01/12 06:43 PM
2

Thanks, this was good information. What are suggested ways to improve yourself? I personally thought part of improving myself involved becoming better groomed and looking nicer. Sure it's an external improvement, and I still need to work on stuff on the inside which I am actively doing as well.
/r/seduction13/01/12 06:40 PM
1

You are probably right. But I've read that in order to help build some confidence, dressing better/working out stuff like that helps just to get the ball rolling.
/r/seduction13/01/12 05:07 PM
1

None of your critiques are helpful. Not sure how saying that you should be a confident well dressed person makes me sound like a douche. If you want to give constructive criticism, I am all ears. I never said posting on the internet was the action I was going to take? Just saying that this was a realization that I have made, and now it's time to take action. Don't see how I already failed at being done lying to myself? At what point did I lie to myself and make another excuse? I don't believe in…
/r/seduction13/01/12 04:44 PM
2

Never said it was. I didn't say I took action, I said it's time to take action.
/r/seduction13/01/12 04:37 PM
3

I thought of a game that hasn't been tested yet, but it just sort of popped in my head. I was reading some mark manson material and he's talking about picking up girls in different countries and not even knowing the language. I thought it might be a fun game to only use body language to talk.
/r/seduction13/01/12 12:22 AM
1

I'm probably not worth the money if you're just starting out. I teach people who have a solid foundation.
/r/seduction11/01/12 06:54 AM
2

Women want to be looked at. They want to feel like they are wanted. Why do you think women spend so much time in front of a mirror, or shopping, or wear those heels and sexy skirt. They are starving for the right attention. So give them what they want without shame.
/r/seduction11/01/12 05:32 AM
-3

I can't fucking stand this style of editing. Had to turn it off. I assume cliffs are: 13 year old thinks women are allowed to have sex.
/r/seduction11/01/12 05:24 AM
4

I'm a highly regarded poker coach, and I never went to poker school. We're all blind here, and we only teach what has worked for us. Pickup is a relatively new thing, so all that is out there is theory and personal experience. Any good coach will have read all the theory, tried them, and teaches what has worked for them.
/r/seduction11/01/12 05:19 AM
4

I have a long way to go, but this was a huge step for me, I just need to build off it.
/r/seduction09/01/12 04:57 AM
8

What a rush! Now I understand when guys say they love the thrill of the chase.
/r/seduction09/01/12 04:57 AM
3

haha thanks, it didn't have it's intended effect, but i think i recovered nicely
/r/seduction09/01/12 04:56 AM
3

......blank stare
/r/seduction07/01/12 02:28 AM
2

It's really hard for me to work up the courage to even approach them once.
/r/seduction06/01/12 07:27 PM
8

I think there is something wrong with the way I view it. I saw this sleazy 40 year old hitting on these women, and I'm like, these girls don't want to talk to him. God, he looks like such a douche. But the girls were responding to him. And then I was thinking, what the hell? Why are these girls into him? Are they retarded? I never want to be like that sleaze bag hitting on women half my age. Who knows, maybe it's jealousy, maybe I need to change my view.
/r/seduction06/01/12 11:24 AM
2

Coach me
/r/seduction27/12/11 02:33 AM
6

Thank you so much for this. I will take a look at this when I get home. I like your approach to all this stuff.
/r/seduction26/12/11 12:04 AM
7

Any good stuff out there on inner game? As far as books/threads/websites?
/r/seduction25/12/11 11:41 PM
2

Who are some good PUA's to follow? I really don't want to be led in the wrong direction. Basically, what I am looking for out of this is just having some confidence in being able to talk to women and get some numbers and have some dates and just improve my dating life. I'm tired of being in a relationship and afraid to leave because I'm afraid of being alone. I'm not necessarily looking for one night stands and be able to fuck any girl or whatever. I'm not opposed to them, but that's not my goal…
/r/seduction25/12/11 09:51 PM
7

I just read this article. While I agree with what he says, ultimately it feels like a sad existence. I'm not sure I want to live a life where my only goal is to fuck as many girls as possible. Are PUA's generally happy people in general? Do any of them value long term relationships and marriage? Or is it all about fucking the hottest girls? I'm honestly afraid of turning into a person that just objectifies women. I think it's pretty pathetic that a "hog" is just a story for his buddies. He seems…
/r/seduction25/12/11 09:37 PM
2

What if someone takes your seat?
/r/seduction25/12/11 06:15 AM
2

For me the difference between arrogance and confidence is that an arrogant person has to say that you are lucky. A confident person it is implied.
/r/seduction24/12/11 11:26 PM
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I have been sending out e-mails, and I feel like I've tried everything to get a response. I've only had a few so far. But not nearly the success rate I'd like it to be at. Could you give a few pointers on how to approach someone on a dating site?
/r/seduction24/12/11 02:04 AM
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Do you care to post your profile? I learn best by example.
/r/seduction24/12/11 01:13 AM
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