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Exactly.
/r/seduction24/05/18 05:19 AM
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If she is interested, she will make it easy.
/r/seduction24/05/18 05:15 AM
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I have too much abundance to waste my time seducing, let alone fucking, women I am not highly attracted to.
/r/seduction24/05/18 12:46 AM
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About double her age.
/r/seduction24/05/18 12:32 AM
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If they ask, of course. Sometimes it's worth joking around "I'm old enough" etc or better yet, ask "How old do you think I am?". It can lead to some fun banter. I was out with an 18 yo recently who asked how old I was. I asked her "How old do you think I am?". She says "Um... like...early 20s?". I gestured "higher". She acted shocked and asked "Mid 20s"?". I gestured higher again. She asked "No way...you're under 30 right?". I said "Nope" and gave her my age. She said "Wow I thought you were mid…
/r/seduction23/05/18 04:22 AM
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Thank you also for sharing. I say once again, wish more guys on here would get the message. Looks are irrelevant.
/r/seduction23/05/18 04:15 AM
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Thanks for the honesty. Wish more guys on here would get the message! Looks count for shit.
/r/seduction23/05/18 04:15 AM
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Good question. I'll invest time answering. Money is irrelevant. It does not automatically produce a great life. It can give you options though. Money is sometimes a side effect of having built an awesome life (more on this below). But there are plenty of people in a JOB who hate their lives and make great money. So, forget money entirely. For a man, what makes for an awesome life is having VERY CLEAR DIRECTION, a STRONG PURPOSE/MISSION and pursuing it with PASSION. When you are OBSESSED with you…
/r/seduction23/05/18 04:13 AM
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Be a Zuck who does things because he wants to, not because he is trying to please others.
/r/seduction23/05/18 03:21 AM
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Not understanding women won't stop them being attracted to you but it will impede your ability to seduce them. Learning about women is the next step after you have built an awesome life.
/r/seduction23/05/18 03:20 AM
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Keep at it. I have the opposite problem. Too many of them are attracted to me. I keep ghosting them because I don't have the time for all these dates and lays. ps I am NOT a good looking guy. Just confident as fuck and have an awesome life.
/r/seduction23/05/18 03:17 AM
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Great post. This nails it.
/r/seduction23/05/18 03:15 AM
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Focusing on becoming the next Zuck or Jobs is much better use of your time when young, or old. And women will flock to you as a result. Believe.
/r/seduction22/05/18 09:39 AM
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Good lesson to all the chumpson here trying to figure out what to wear, how jacked to be, what haircut they need, what watch to buy, or stupid pickup techniques. Just be awesome, focus on your life and your mission and women will naturally be attracted to you.
/r/seduction22/05/18 06:05 AM
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I don't waste my time with insecure women. NEXT.
/r/seduction22/05/18 05:59 AM
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Call, don't text. Don't ask if she is free x day, ask WHEN she is free to grab a drink. If she wants to see you, she will tell you when she's free. Then set a definite date. 2-3 days is nothing. If you don't hear back for a week, call her. Find more girls.
/r/seduction22/05/18 05:58 AM
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Hah, this is funny because I'm in my 30s and almost every woman I am dating is at uni in Australia. Just grow some balls and start approaching women you are attracted to whenever you see them whether it's in class, at work, at a bar, in a supermarket, on the beach...whatever.
/r/seduction21/05/18 02:46 AM
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I date lots of women at once. I never hide it. I usually mention early on that I'm just dating and having fun at the moment. They get it. I do get asked quite a bit "Have you fucked anyone else since I saw you last?". I usually make a joke out of it "Yeah, she bit my dick too hard. Want to see the scar?" or "Yep. 3 guys. At the same time". Just make her feel more special than the others.
/r/seduction21/05/18 02:44 AM
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Lol, I dress like trash ($5 shirts, $10 shorts and $5 flip flops all year), my hair is a mess, I hardly ever shave and I pick up 95% of the women I end up dating while looking like this. This is one of the worst posts I've seen here. I'm sure you are coming from a good place but it is bad advice which will fuel more of the fire of bullshit like you need to dress nice, be tall, be jacked, be fit etc.
/r/seduction21/05/18 02:40 AM
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Bring condoms and escalate...be the leader...make sex your fault.
/r/seduction18/05/18 10:03 AM
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No contact.
/r/seduction16/05/18 04:18 AM
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Literally everything from obscure black metal to vivaldi to donkey kong soundtrack.
/r/seduction15/05/18 11:22 PM
1

Be hot as fuck. And when I approach you, also be intelligent and fun. Nothing else needed but smiling when I make eye contact won't hurt.
/r/seduction15/05/18 01:04 PM
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If they're cold leads like this, just text something random, funny and NOT needing a response like: "Jesus, I just saw a grandma cut in line at the liquor store with 3 bottles of vodka haha". If she texts back, great. Pick up the phone and ask her out.
/r/seduction15/05/18 06:29 AM
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Text game should not exist. Pick up the phone, CALL her, chat for a minute or three, then ask when she is free for a drink and set a definite date.
/r/seduction15/05/18 06:26 AM
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He likes you and is also needy and insecure.
/r/seduction15/05/18 06:25 AM
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She gives it too him and then Brittany looks at me and says "you want my Instagram too ?" This is the part where you say "No, but I'll take your number".
/r/seduction15/05/18 06:22 AM
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All the time.
/r/seduction15/05/18 06:16 AM
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Just be awesome. Women will naturally find you attractive, whether they are available or not.
/r/seduction15/05/18 06:13 AM
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I've worked a lot on myself Wait... I look a lot better, have a nice haircut, dress better etc. and I get called cute all the time by girls as well Just want to check..... when you say you worked on yourself, that is a separate point to your looking and dressing better, right?
/r/seduction15/05/18 06:08 AM
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Find more women bro.
/r/seduction15/05/18 06:05 AM
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LOL, oh man guys are dumb. I'm one, don't worry, I'm not attacking you, just saying we are dopey. To answer your question, just don't reciprocate. She will get the idea and it won't take too long. Women have a different way of communicating. It is indirect and inferred. Don't touch her back. If she stands too close, take a step back. etc
/r/seduction15/05/18 03:46 AM
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You just don't have enough other women in your life brother. Go find some and you'll quickly stop lingering on the past.
/r/seduction15/05/18 01:00 AM
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Obvious troll is obvious. Get back in your cave.
/r/seduction15/05/18 12:59 AM
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NO. Own them. Women LOVE, LOVE, LOVE a guy who is so confident in himself and passionate about his interests, however nerdy (whether it's starcraft, warcraft, lovecraft or Disney movies). The worst thing you can do is hide or be ashamed of your interests around women. It shows you are a pleaser, and a pussy. Women want a man who is strong and centered, not a limp, fluffy wimp who is scared of rejection and will change his opinions or hide his passions in an effort to gain her approval. You shoul…
/r/seduction15/05/18 12:57 AM
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Don't have any food around. Keep her appetite up so she can enjoy some pork sword later.
/r/seduction12/05/18 03:01 AM
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Yeah, much easier for FWB to find the extra girl. I also find that younger women (closer to 18 the better) are much more likely to try a threesome as they're in a wild, experimental stage. Another tip: often FWB may feel threatened if the third girl is similar to her in personality OR if either of you know the third girl in person OR if you pay more attention to the third girl so always keep that in mind.
/r/seduction12/05/18 02:39 AM
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Work on yourself and building an awesome life. p.s. Your looks count for shit.
/r/seduction07/05/18 12:33 AM
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Cut off contact, permanently. No time for crazy bitches.
/r/seduction06/05/18 12:00 AM
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If she is saying you are overconfident it's most likely her way of saying "Damn, this guy is not getting knocked off his center by all my bullshit.". But yeah, you have fucked up by trying to convince her to get back. SO SO needy. A real man would not put up with that shit. A real man has standards.
/r/seduction05/05/18 11:47 PM
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Good work but set a date on the spot next time. Much higher chance of it happening if you set it then and there. Instead of ASKING if she wants to go out, do this: Approach Banter "Let's grab a drink, when are you free?" She'll tell you when she is available if she likes you (if she doesn't know her schedule, just number close) "Great, let's make it 7pm Thursday next week." Hand her your phone so she can enter her name and number "I'll text you the details" Leave Text her the exact day, time, lo…
/r/seduction05/05/18 11:34 PM
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It's actually really simple. Ask when she is free to grab a drink. Don't fuck around.
/r/seduction05/05/18 11:30 PM
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Especially when that happens. Laugh it off, make a joke of it, stay calm, say "Are you ok?" or "Is something the matter? It seems like you're not your usual self". Never, ever, EVER let anything a woman OR a man does.....rock your boat. Ever. It makes women feel unsafe around you because if a REAL emergency ever did happen, she knows you will crumble into a mess instead of standing strong like a MAN an SOLVING IT.
/r/seduction05/05/18 11:29 PM
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Dude, stop fucking thinking so much. Just go for it. It is the man's job to make sex happen so escalate accordingly. Take two steps forward, one step back and push through any "soft" resistance.
/r/seduction05/05/18 11:27 PM
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A woman will ALWAYS notice how you react, whether she tested you intentionally or whether shes witnessing a situation unfold that she had nothing to do with. NEVER let ANYTHING rock your boat.
/r/seduction05/05/18 11:25 PM
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It can be tougher but best thing to do is acknowledge her Dad, show you're not a creep, and ask for her number. NOTHING TO LOSE. Comes off a bit easier with the mom there though. "Hi mom. Your daughter is gorgeous. May I ask for her number." Make a joke of it. If she's single, her mom will often ENCOURAGE her daughter to give you her number because you have shown you are confident, not a creep and are socially savvy.
/r/seduction05/05/18 11:23 PM
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What a silly comment. You are saying "Don't even try because it probably won't work out". Do you take the same approach for everything else in life? Allowing fear of failure prevent you from even TRYING?
/r/seduction05/05/18 11:20 PM
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I don't have time for insecure women, dating or longterm. NEXT.
/r/seduction05/05/18 03:43 AM
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Yes, I was socially inept (I'm on the spectrum). Also went through periods of depression. But I worked on myself, my life and my skills. Your daily routine is AWESOME. Keep it up. I do all of those things daily and they are life changing.
/r/seduction05/05/18 12:40 AM
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They're much of a muchness, any will do.
/r/seduction04/05/18 07:14 AM
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Stop fucking texting. Get to know each other in person. Problem solved.
/r/seduction04/05/18 06:26 AM
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They're now going to be talking about how butthurt he got over a phone call..
/r/seduction04/05/18 01:05 AM
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Laugh it off, not react, and politely thank them very much for the call.
/r/seduction04/05/18 01:05 AM
1

Well done. Except for the move part. Change the plan. A movie is a horrible idea.
/r/seduction04/05/18 12:12 AM
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I've talked to a lot of 10s and often ask how many times they've been approached that night. Often their answers is "I haven't" (except for creep yelling stuff at me from a distance). Less competition at the top, boys.
/r/seduction03/05/18 11:58 PM
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Confidence is HANDS DOWN the most attractive thing about any man. I'm the most confident motherfucker I know and it's incredibly attractive to women -- can't count the number of times (often after some shit testing) women have said some form of "Wow, you are SO confident", "I love your confidence" "How are you so confident?" etc or how many times I've been approached by HBs due to the confidence I'm oozing.
/r/seduction03/05/18 11:54 PM
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She ain't interested. NEXT.
/r/seduction03/05/18 11:49 PM
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Wow, you just failed to hold your frame and remain centred and grounded. If shit like this ever happens, don't let it rock your boat. You have revealed you are insecure, socially retarded and have your feathers ruffled easily.
/r/seduction03/05/18 11:46 PM
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Just bring a few condoms and have fun.
/r/seduction03/05/18 11:14 PM
1

Bro, thanks, for a minute there I thought what I said was correct.
/r/seduction03/05/18 06:48 AM
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No. What a stupid question.
/r/seduction03/05/18 05:38 AM
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Women like to know you have options with other women, but don't rub it in their face.
/r/seduction03/05/18 04:02 AM
1

11/10 Oh. It was rhetorical.
/r/seduction03/05/18 03:26 AM
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Any time.
/r/seduction02/05/18 08:46 AM
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Forget about her. Go find some new women.
/r/seduction02/05/18 04:27 AM
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several days later I reached out coz i missed her. Now that she knows im not a man of my words You fucked up. She is testing you hard. Your fault for being weak and needy.
/r/seduction02/05/18 04:23 AM
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If the man is bringing up the idea of being exclusive, it shows he feels threatened by other men who may "take his girl". The only reason for this is if he lacks confidence in himself and how awesome he is.
/r/seduction01/05/18 10:57 PM
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Hide the sausage is my favorite.
/r/seduction01/05/18 10:51 PM
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Ask in person. Shit where you eat if you want. It can be great, or terrible.
/r/seduction01/05/18 06:11 AM
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Just fucking stop. It's actually that simple. You can only focus on one thing at a time so focus on something else.
/r/seduction01/05/18 06:09 AM
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i would like to start a relationship You're fucked if this is your line of thinking. You should be coming at this from the place of "I want to see if she's worth getting to know better". Almost all the women I date, turn out not to be suitable girlfriend material. Anyway, just call her in a few days, then set a definite date. EZ.
/r/seduction01/05/18 06:08 AM
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Don't waste your time seeing her at work.
/r/seduction01/05/18 06:01 AM
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Women are not chasing you. See point 1.
/r/seduction01/05/18 06:00 AM
1

Bringing it up will usually convey that you are: unsure/insecure/needy/want to lock her down. Never does any good. If/when she wants to be exclusive, she will bring it up. Let it be her idea.
/r/seduction01/05/18 02:09 AM
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Tell her, don't ask.
/r/seduction30/04/18 01:55 AM
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Looking wealthy vs being wealthy are VERY different things. 99% of the people who look wealthy are broke as fuck and wasting their time keeping up the appearance of wealth, while the truly wealthy people drive modest cars, dress in affordable clothes, don't wear expensive watches etc.
/r/seduction29/04/18 09:51 AM
1

Should have waited.
/r/seduction29/04/18 09:47 AM
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You are in the friendzone because you took WAY to long to make a move initially. Ask her out for a DRINK at NIGHT. She will know your intentions. Her response will tell you if there is any hope. I doubt there is. You've been into her for a fucking year and did nothing...
/r/seduction28/04/18 02:52 AM
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That was "Sorry bro, I'm not interested". NEXT.
/r/seduction28/04/18 02:48 AM
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Women are attracted to men for different reasons than men are attracted to women. Why do women do their hair, nails, legs, eyebrows, wear makeup, wear heels etc? Because men are visual creatures. Doesn't matter if you're short, fat, ugly, bad teeth, tiny dick, missing an arm, hairier than a gorilla -- if you are an AWESOME, CONFIDENT, FUNNY guy, women will be easily attracted -- it's not about LOOKS to them. p.s. I skinny, hairy, scruffy guy I know literally has broken yellow teeth and pulls mor…
/r/seduction28/04/18 02:47 AM
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99% of the time girls don't leave stuff accidentally. Obviously, she had her period and wanted the D but could only eat it, so wait for her to say "I think I left my fav necklace at your place". Then you simply arrange a time for her to come over so you can come over her again.
/r/seduction28/04/18 02:40 AM
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Call her in a few days "Hi it's <name>" and wait for her response. If she's really into you she'll remember you and say something like "I was wondering when I'd hear from you" (great sign). If she's like "Who?", repeat "It's <name>.". If she still doesn't rememeber, move on as she was never that into you. If she does remember, quick chat then ask when she is free for a drink next week and set a DEFINITE date on the phone, then get off the phone. Easy.
/r/seduction28/04/18 02:35 AM
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Guys, don't ever invite girls you're seeing to group things like dinner or the club with your friends. Recipe for disaster. They may feel judged as being slutty if they're affectionate, if you go home together etc. As for Snap, whatever, live your life. It won't hurt unless she's a psycho.
/r/seduction28/04/18 02:33 AM
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I leaned in and tried to kiss but had to settle for a peck on the lips as she didnt believe in kissing on the first date This is either a sign she doesn't like you (most likely) OR she's fucked in the head and has stupid rules about kissing, having sex etc. MOVE ON. If she doesn't like you, don't bother. If she's fucked in the head with silly rules, she will be a pain in the god damn ass.
/r/seduction28/04/18 02:29 AM
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You did fuck up. Not going for the kiss on your first date either: 1. Makes her feel rejected 2. Makes you look like a pussy 3. Means you have to spend more money/time on another date to know if she's really into you or not LUCKILY sounds like you have the chance to take her out on a second date. DO NOT HESITATE THIS TIME.
/r/seduction28/04/18 02:28 AM
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Yeah, so, most likely she felt rejected when you didn't kiss her. NEXT.
/r/seduction28/04/18 02:25 AM
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Literally not important. Doesn't even matter if they are broken and yellow.
/r/seduction28/04/18 02:20 AM
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What in the fuck (top left) around 5:36... didn't know invisibility cloaks were available in Sydney.
/r/seduction28/04/18 02:18 AM
1

Honestly, you just need to read "3% Man" like 20 times and follow to the letter. It will answer ALL your questions.
/r/seduction27/04/18 06:02 AM
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Pro tip: Number close BEFORE they get pulled away, too. Last thing you want is the friend to come drag her back and you ask for the number and she feels judged.
/r/seduction27/04/18 05:51 AM
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I was chasing her Never chase. until roughly February. Then things fell apart, she caught onto the fact I was into her and I knew I had to give up there. WHAT? Actually, what.
/r/seduction27/04/18 03:51 AM
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What?
/r/seduction27/04/18 02:03 AM
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It's not to build a CONNECTION it's to build HER ATTRACTION toward you. If she's wondering about you, her attraction is growing. If you're constantly available and texting, she has no time to wonder or for her feelings and emotions to enter the mix. Women are not like guys. Guy sees girl, guy knows in a few seconds if he's attracted to her. Woman sees guy, woman needs TIME to become attracted (or not). As they way, guy just need a place, women need a reason.
/r/seduction27/04/18 02:03 AM
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No shit. Thanks for posting though as I know this will be news to a lot of the guys on here. Don't be a fucking pussy. If you're on a first date, read her level of interest and kiss when she's ready. If it gets to the end of the date and you still haven't kissed (shame on you!), go for the goodnight kiss. She'll either suck kiss you back (she likes you), or turn and you'll get her cheek (she doesn't like you, NEXT!). So many guys have made so many girls feel rejected because they were unsure of …
/r/seduction27/04/18 01:32 AM
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I can't fathom the thought of someone genuinely liking me You're fucked. Become the person you need to be to attract the woman of your dreams.
/r/seduction27/04/18 01:26 AM
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If you can fuck in it, it's fine.
/r/seduction26/04/18 08:13 AM
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You are probably just taking too long to make shit happen. Meet, number close/set a date on the spot or the next week via a PHONE call. Repeat weekly. Intentions are clear and you are not a bitch because you went for what you wanted without fear of rejection or trying to "get to know them" first.
/r/seduction26/04/18 01:50 AM
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"let's swap"
/r/seduction26/04/18 01:46 AM
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Tread carefully. I've been in these situations before. It can work well for you by showing how desirable you are to other women are creating competition (especially if they see other women flirting with you...it's like "Who is the better seductress") but it can do downhill fast. The women can feel threatened if they're not very confident. That said, it's a really curious situation when you're somewhere with a few women you are interested in AND who are interested in you. If you resist the advanc…
/r/seduction26/04/18 01:45 AM
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Be the alpha she wants. Get over your oneitis. EZ.
/r/seduction26/04/18 01:34 AM
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Disney movies Mario Kart You know that it's never the point to watch much of the movie or finish a cup right? One tip: No horror movies. Goes too counter to sexy times.
/r/seduction26/04/18 01:24 AM
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By actually leading one :) A person who is awesome, with an awesome life, cannot help but be happy, confident, fun and a pleasure to be around which is automatically attractive. It's not a matter of trying to show it, the person you become while developing, and then having, and awesome life, will simply be attractive to others (men and women). If you're talking about tinder, different ball game. Aesthetics count but so does not being a borind turd. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COIjJxPCb9k
/r/seduction26/04/18 01:22 AM
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Work on yourself dude. Biggest tip I can give you. If you and your life are awesome, women will be automatically attracted to you.
/r/seduction26/04/18 01:03 AM
1

Have you seen Black Mirror? The dating couch on the White Christmas episode had it set perfectly. Could see and hear + speak to them. Best of both worlds. Won't tell you how it ends..
/r/seduction26/04/18 01:02 AM
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Calling her isn't about how easy it is for her to ghost you. It's about conveying confidence and standing out, neither of which texting does. I was on a first date only last week with a girl age 20 whose phone buzzed a bunch of times. I joked "Must be all the guys chasing you". We joked about it a bit and forgot the conversation. When we woke up the next morning she checked her phone and said "lol you were right" and showed me messages from a couple of chumps then we read over their messages fro…
/r/seduction26/04/18 01:01 AM
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I know that myth is a myth but I said "non-verbal", NOT "body language". Just FYI, here are some nuances of communication. Some fall under body language, some verbal, some neither. You will miss a number of these if you're just listening to audio: Eye contact Touch Proximity to the person Direction from which the words are coming (where is the person standing) Location from which the words are coming (you would know that whispering something to someone from either left, right, behind or in front…
/r/seduction26/04/18 12:51 AM
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I'm short, very skinny, dress cheap and am average looking at best but I am incredibly attractive to a lot of women because I am confident as hell, happy, wise, funny and very self aware. Most of the women I'm sleeping with are 8s, 9s and some 10s and a good percentage of them end up saying shit like "I can't believe this" or "Wow, how did this happen?" followed by "You're not my type/I'm not normally into guys like you/I usually got for xyz guys". "I don't know why I am so attracted to you" etc…
/r/seduction26/04/18 12:43 AM
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You were stuck in your head. Don't reach for pills to solve it. You just need to get on of your head and just enjoy the experience.
/r/seduction25/04/18 11:02 PM
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If you just want some friends, join some social things based on your interests an forget seduction.
/r/seduction25/04/18 10:56 PM
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LOL maybe you're not jacked enough. Yep, work out more. Any ideally become taller. That will solve your problems. Just ask this sub. Seriously though, you're not connecting with these women, OBVIOUSLY. You're either boring as fuck, scared as fuck which they can smell from a mile away, or awkward as fuck. Be awesome, be interesting, make them laugh, spike their emotions, ooze confidence. p.s. Well done for the effort. 50 approaches is a great start. Just gotta work on the other side of the equati…
/r/seduction25/04/18 10:54 PM
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Remember this feeling next time you are going to pussy out on saying hi to an attractive woman.
/r/seduction25/04/18 10:50 PM
3

Most of communication is non-verbal so obviously, if you're coaching someone on their communication (which is the ONLY way seduction happens), it would help to see what's going on too.
/r/seduction25/04/18 10:49 PM
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Agree with just about everything but texting while you're there then CHECKING to see if she got your text comes across as needy as fuck. Don't be a turd. Yeah, text her your name when you get her number or whatever, but ASSUME she got it because she gave you her number.
/r/seduction25/04/18 10:48 PM
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All the women I date are 25 and under. It's a risk? What kind of risk? Risk of you getting a date? Risk of you standing out? Risk of you appearing confident? Risk of knowing where she stands? Nothing can go wrong with a phone call unless you have verbal diarrhoea. Worst thing that happens is she can't pick up so leave a message "Hi Sarah, I'll try you later". Try later. If she doesn't pick up the second time "Hi Sarah, I'll text you" and text.
/r/seduction25/04/18 10:26 PM
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The information is GOLDEN. I have listened to the audio more than 20 times and watched a LOT of his videos. The number of times a situation has come up and I've had his voice pop into my head and known what to do, I can't count.
/r/seduction25/04/18 10:22 PM
1

Or just pick up the fucking phone, call and ask "When are you free for a drink?". If she won't offer a specific day/time, tell her you'll make plans some other time when she is definitely available, politely end the call, forget she exists (until/if she reaches out out you) and call some other women you're seeing to arrange dates with them in the mean time.
/r/seduction25/04/18 05:50 AM
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It's easy. Don't be needy and NEVER bring the subject up. Let it unfold. If she's got this reputation it's most likely she's been dating needy guys.
/r/seduction24/04/18 08:08 AM
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"Your priority should never be girls- Your priority should be YOU" Truth.
/r/seduction24/04/18 07:55 AM
2

Text him: "Do you want to see my new lingerie?". His response will answer your questions ;)
/r/seduction24/04/18 07:53 AM
2

Calling shows confidence AND makes you stand out. Think about that.
/r/seduction24/04/18 07:51 AM
2

She was DTF but "Too tired" meant she was not FEELING it at that moment. Either worried about being judged as slut, OR that her attraction dropped. Your job is to ensure she doesn't feel judged and to lift her level of attraction so she FEELS it.
/r/seduction24/04/18 07:49 AM
2

See, you already know what went wrong here. You started chasing because SHE didn't chase you. Instantly went from masculine ans strong to feminine and needy. :) Lesson learned.
/r/seduction24/04/18 07:43 AM
0

Yes, give up. Looks are everything. You have no hope.
/r/seduction24/04/18 07:41 AM
2

On period? No problem, just lay down a towel. And bro, she felt like a slut. Women hate to feel like this so it's your job to make them feel comfortable and FREE of judgement. Before you fuck the first time, say stuff like "You're so adventurous" and "This is really random" or flip the script and say "I never do this". Make her laugh but also help her realise you will NOT judge her at all. Anyway, move on dude. Something's not right here.
/r/seduction24/04/18 07:41 AM
1

Check this out: https://youtu.be/3o6MOM68vPU?t=7m21s INSANE video of RSDMax trying to open a set of 3 chicks. They literally say nothing (no words, at all) to him for 3 MINUTES. 3 MINUTES go by with Max rambling out loud while they ignore him. Eventually they realises he doesn't give a FUCK, is FUN and FUNNY and he pulls one of them.
/r/seduction24/04/18 07:35 AM
7

What are they doing differently? Settling.
/r/seduction24/04/18 07:27 AM
2

Oh boy. You texted her WAY too soon, should have waited a week. "We arranged to meet up again on Friday, but she said she may have to babysit for her sister so not a definite." You did NOT arrange to meet up. It was not definite. As SOON as I read this, I knew she was going to flake. "I might have to bla" means "I'm just being nice and saying yes but I actually don't want to see you again and I will flake, but don't want to upset you by saying it directly". You should have said **Hannah, I'd lov…
/r/seduction24/04/18 07:23 AM
1

Stop fkn texting women right after a date guys! Wait at least a few days, if not a week. Let her wonder about you. Anyway, you've learned a few lessons. Logistics are important. I always pick a quiet, affordable, low-key place for dates and have scoped out the best table (her facing away from people ideally so she isn't distracted and has only you to look at). Your date went too long. You should have moved venues multiple times. You should have escalated etc. Wait a few days and don't respond to…
/r/seduction24/04/18 07:10 AM
2

"We're not going to have sex" is almost always the last thing I hear from a woman before we have sex. It's part shit test (to see if you are a man who will go after what he wants despite her resistance), part story she will tell herself to not feel like a slut "I only went to watch a documentary, I told him no sex, so it's his fault. I'm not a slut." and sometimes their ego comes into it to "He'd better want me enough to push through my resistance or I'll feel rejected and be very upset". Plus, …
/r/seduction24/04/18 04:18 AM
1

You need to be a leader and physically escalate when she feels safe, comfortable, heard and understood.
/r/seduction24/04/18 12:37 AM
1

The fastest way to gain someone's attention is to remove yours.
/r/seduction24/04/18 12:35 AM
1

Yep. Polarity is key.
/r/seduction22/04/18 11:20 AM
3

I also asked where I stand in our relationship Not wise. Seems needy. Don't text her. Just turn up to the date.
/r/seduction21/04/18 06:49 AM
1

Nothing happened though just because of the environment and time constraint we were in Excuse, and untrue. Uh anyway, needy as fuck. Run bro.
/r/seduction21/04/18 02:22 AM
1

Before I made any effort to learn this stuff I already believed I could sleep with anyone I wanted. IF I met them. But I never approached. Only difference is now I approach when I see something I want.
/r/seduction21/04/18 01:55 AM
1

If you're out on a date, rather than club, much easier. "I've got a great bottle of wine at my place".
/r/seduction21/04/18 01:43 AM
3

Give her an excuse and baby step it. Women don't want to feel like sluts so most of the time "Wanna come back to my place" won't cut it because she knows she just agreed to sex. Plant seeds of the idea like "What's your fav Disney movie" then mention you love Toy Story and want to watch it again. Later, tell her you're hungry and should get some food. When outside, something like "I don't know any good food here but I have pizza and Toy Story at my place" then hail a cab. That way she can tell h…
/r/seduction21/04/18 01:42 AM
1

btw I should be clear. You'll have amazing, fiery romances with two very masculine people (woman + man) but long term, it's a recipe for disaster in a relationship because there is no polarity.
/r/seduction21/04/18 01:38 AM
1

Your issue is that you are either masculine at your core, or wearing a masculine mask most of the time (masculine traits incl. pursuing goals, achieving, having a mission/purpose, confidence, strength, decisiveness etc). I have a list of what I do and what I do not want in a woman and a woman who is masculine at her core, or too hard to get into her feminine is an immediate NO. Most guys are clueless about this stuff, but they will be turned off by a masculine woman unless the guy is feminine at…
/r/seduction21/04/18 01:37 AM
3

Do not mistake "good looking" with "attractive". I am attractive as fuck, but I am not good looking at all. You are good looking, but unattractive (no life, no friends etc).
/r/seduction21/04/18 01:17 AM
1

You've already lost if you are worried about what she might think (fear of rejection).
/r/seduction21/04/18 01:16 AM
2

I'm a nerd. Just fucking own it. Women LOVE men who are confident and comfortable in their own skin.
/r/seduction20/04/18 08:53 AM
1

Should have led better. "Let's hang in your room where it's quiet". Then you escalate.
/r/seduction20/04/18 08:52 AM
1

HAHA, she is into you. Just don't fuck it up. Be confident in yourself, escalate and enjoy the sex. She has dropped hints and arranged logistics for sex to happen easily. Have fun.
/r/seduction20/04/18 08:48 AM
1

Friendzoned. NEXT. p.s. this is why: Ive had a crush on this girl for 2 years
/r/seduction19/04/18 02:17 AM
2

Date more women, bro.
/r/seduction18/04/18 07:19 AM
1

Delete this. Don't put girls on pedestals. If she's on her phone, you're boring AF.
/r/seduction18/04/18 05:33 AM
2

If you are worried about your height, you obviously have nothing else going for you as a man. Work on yourself. Be awesome. Problem solved.
/r/seduction18/04/18 12:19 AM
1

Shit test but just IGNORE IT. LOL at her age comment tho. I'm in my 30s and date women her age.
/r/seduction17/04/18 11:46 PM
1

Maybe. Or maybe the next one was "No can you take my top off?".
/r/seduction17/04/18 11:45 PM
9

The quickest way to gain someone's attention is to take yours away. Tell her you're too busy to be texting but if she can make the time you will meet her for a drink.
/r/seduction17/04/18 11:44 PM
2

Cool, I remember answering your question — glad it got you the kiss. He might not be that into you, or more likely, he's socially retarded (hence never having kissed a girl). Set up another date and be bold again.
/r/seduction17/04/18 07:30 AM
1

3% Man 3% Man 3% Man 3% Man 3% Man Srs.
/r/seduction17/04/18 05:30 AM
2

I'd have said "If you're lucky" but either way.
/r/seduction17/04/18 04:48 AM
2

"You're smarter than you look".
/r/seduction12/04/18 04:26 AM
1

Fuck dude, relax, talk to other women, have an interesting life, be busy and don't expect women to reply instantly to you nor should you reply instantly to them. The neediness is strong with this one.
/r/seduction11/04/18 02:54 AM
4

It's worth acknowledging the weirdness of your approach e.g. "I know this is random but.." to put them at ease.
/r/seduction10/04/18 01:14 AM
1

Be better.
/r/seduction10/04/18 01:12 AM
1

Yep, great read. Our angry friend /u/korean-bible could do with reading it to develop some empathy for the varying needs and wants of both men and women.
/r/seduction10/04/18 01:12 AM
1

For women, it's the whole experience. Anticipation, mystery, surprise, your words, all of it.
/r/seduction10/04/18 01:10 AM
9

Don't. Just fucking don't. Don't text her. Let her wonder about you, wonder what you are doing, wonder what the date will be like etc. This is how women become attracted. She will be bursting at the seams when you see each other.
/r/seduction09/04/18 06:40 PM
2

Outside your home.
/r/seduction09/04/18 06:23 PM
1

You didn't ask them good questions and/or they were not interested at all.
/r/seduction09/04/18 06:23 PM
4

Great book to read. It's called "Attached" by Amir Levine and someone else. Might explain a lot.
/r/seduction09/04/18 06:22 PM
3

It's all in your head bro.
/r/seduction09/04/18 06:20 PM
3

You should have read 3% Man about 10 times...you would have been aware her level of attraction was dropping and known how to course-correct. Anyway, do that and this won't happen again. Good learning experience.
/r/seduction09/04/18 06:19 PM
1

I've rejected heaps of chicks when I found out they believed something really stupid. Like, in god.
/r/seduction09/04/18 06:16 PM
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Maybe you don't like sex. Or maybe you were in your head, instead of in the moment.
/r/seduction09/04/18 06:08 PM
3

Never had another guy present when I've had multiple partners, so you're on your own.
/r/seduction09/04/18 03:44 AM
3

Oneitis while in the friendzone. Learn from this. Have an abundance of women, don't put them on pedestals and don't believe the myth of "the one".
/r/seduction09/04/18 03:08 AM
4

I have a tip for foursomes. Have two vibrators. One girl on top, one vibrator in each hand and one girl on each size.
/r/seduction09/04/18 03:05 AM
1

You're not being insecure, you're being fucking stupid. Height is irrelevant (except in marginal cases).
/r/seduction09/04/18 01:15 AM
3

It's all in your mind. Keep telling yourself it will be hard, and it will be.
/r/seduction07/04/18 04:51 AM
3

This is not a date. You are hanging out as friends.
/r/seduction07/04/18 01:35 AM
1

I'm just thinking back. I don't believe I've ever travelled more than 20 minutes for a date. I have an abundance mentality and also a lot of shit going on in life so I don't waste time. I'm busy. If they're more than 20 mins away, I'll still organise a date but they have to come to me. This is also a great test of their interest. If they're willing to drive an hour, fly in from another state (this has happened only four times) etc they are very interested.
/r/seduction05/04/18 07:18 AM
3

And a bit dumb.
/r/seduction05/04/18 04:10 AM
7

Failure to escalate.
/r/seduction05/04/18 03:57 AM
1

Spoken like a college male.
/r/seduction05/04/18 03:55 AM
1

I always set dates at night. "What NIGHT are you free to grab a drink?". When she said afternoon, I'd have pushed back and told her you could only do evening and if she wasn't able, rescheduled.
/r/seduction04/04/18 09:27 AM
1

Once you open your mouth, looks are nothing.
/r/seduction04/04/18 09:20 AM
1

Something like that. And next time screen for logistics :)
/r/seduction04/04/18 08:31 AM
0

It still counts for shit when it comes to seduction and attraction. Find me a fit guy with a HB9 and I'll find you an unfit guy with a HB10 every time. Confidence is everything. p.s. I keep fit (for my own benefit), just saying it counts for nothing in seduction.
/r/seduction04/04/18 08:02 AM
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I work out a lot and maintain my looks Counts for shit. I'm so tired and worn out that I'd take anything right now Bad attitude, dude. Women will smell this a mile away. You will come across as lacking confidence and needy. They pick up on this stuff and it's a huge turn off. Nowadays, I feel less like a man As above.
/r/seduction04/04/18 07:25 AM
0

Don't waste your time doing on a "date" that can't lead to sex happening at her place or yours. Schedule when she does't have somewhere else to be.
/r/seduction04/04/18 07:21 AM
2

Fuck no. Never ask this shit. And don't put yourself in a grey area of not knowing if it's a date. Ask her to do something lovers would do (get a DRINK or DINNER). She'll understand your intentions. Unless she's missing a few screws.
/r/seduction04/04/18 07:14 AM
6

I'm in my 30s and killing it. I only date women 25 and under. A man in his 30s should have his life sorted (career, health, wealth etc) and becomes very attractive to women.
/r/seduction04/04/18 05:25 AM
1

Wasn't talking about drinking.
/r/seduction04/04/18 03:52 AM
6

SOME men. MOST women. A lot of this is to do with the feminine/masculine dynamic. Men can be feminine, women can be masculine but MOST of the time men are masculine at their core and MOST of the time women are feminine at their core.
/r/seduction04/04/18 01:10 AM
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She MAY or MAY not have a boyfriend. If she does, she may be looking for an upgrade, or some variety. You did the right thing by being upfront and direct about your intentions and "walking away". It shows you are not needy and have options. Well done. Now, go find some other women.
/r/seduction03/04/18 11:54 PM
1

Maybe shit test, maybe period, maybe didn't want to think of herself as a "slut" for sleeping with you so soon. All can be overcome.
/r/seduction03/04/18 11:51 PM
5

Depends if you're open to breaking the law and potentially damaging your health.
/r/seduction03/04/18 11:48 PM
13

You'd be surprised. I'm finding SOME of the women I've been seeing are quite self-aware, especially when we discuss it.
/r/seduction03/04/18 11:40 PM
1

Congrats on taking action and for asking for feedback, because you need it. Don't ask permission to talk to her. Just do it. Don't compliment her on appearance. It's OBVIOUS by your approach that you are attracted. Don't ask permission for her number. Build rapport then get her number with expectancy e.g. hand her your phone.
/r/seduction03/04/18 11:39 PM
1

Most of the time it will work for you. Embrace it.
/r/seduction03/04/18 11:11 PM
41

Don't volunteer it. Mood killer, puts too much pressure on her, bla bla. Just escalate (it's obvious she's dtf) and she won't even know. Why on earth do you think she will realise? Sex is not difficult. Seduce her, get her clothes off, get your clothes off, penis in vagina, thrust, thrust, thrust then apologise for lasting 10 seconds and prepare for round 2.
/r/seduction03/04/18 11:08 PM
14

"Where are the rest?"
/r/seduction03/04/18 08:18 AM
6

Why do they know?
/r/seduction03/04/18 07:59 AM
2

If you want to seduce her friend, just do it. If it blows up in your face (low chance but possible), big deal. There's millions of other women out there. Most of the women I date know (or assume) I am dating/actively sleeping with other women and it's not an issue. Just don't rub it in their faces.
/r/seduction03/04/18 07:58 AM
1

Everyone in this thread who has read the book says it's fucking awesome, full of solid advice and has been very helpful. Rather than give it a fair chance, you have jettisoned the opportunity for improvement in the very area you are on this sub to learn about. WHY?
/r/seduction03/04/18 07:27 AM
3

I can't count the number of times a HB10 has thanked me for having the balls to approach them and confessed not one guy had hit on her all night (this happens to intimidating hot women more than you might think).
/r/seduction03/04/18 01:00 AM
2

Your life will be a challenge if you believe you can ONLY learn from people who share identical values to yourself.
/r/seduction03/04/18 12:58 AM
2

I've read the book 20+ times. It's THE best book on seduction, dating, attraction -- PERIOD. And yes, it answers 99% of the questions people ask here. I've had more luck with women since I discovered the book than I'd had in my entire life before it because I now UNDERSTAND them.
/r/seduction02/04/18 08:42 AM
2

Would you prefer 40 hour book?
/r/seduction02/04/18 08:34 AM
1

Smoking kills.
/r/seduction02/04/18 08:33 AM
6

Do you want to learn from the book or try your own way and fail?
/r/seduction02/04/18 08:32 AM
3

I never send nudes, just receive.
/r/seduction02/04/18 04:37 AM
2

Act like it didn't happen. The end.
/r/seduction29/03/18 02:20 AM
2

Literally make eye contact, approach and ask "Hey, want to get a drink next week? When are you free?". It's that easy.
/r/seduction29/03/18 02:17 AM
0

Odd thing to be consistently noticing but a lot of the time women will throw off an IOI by touching their assets, whether adjusting their bra, shirt, pants, belt etc. It's a subconscious way of saying "Please notice my boobs/booty/legs". 9/10 times, very positive. I'm overt so if I get an IOI like this I will look, without shame, then back to her eyes and smile.
/r/seduction29/03/18 01:11 AM
1

I know most girls who are interested get back to somebody pretty quickly What the fuck? Why do you "know" this? It's absolutely not true (at the dating stage, different when you're in a relationship and she's madly in love with you). Give women space, don't smother them, don't come across as needy or like a boring FUCK who has nothing better to do with his time than reply to her texts instantly. Thinking back, the last half dozen women I slept with (not including same night lays) were taking 8, …
/r/seduction29/03/18 12:33 AM
1

If you're in your head, you're dead. Be you, don't focus on the outcome, just have fun.
/r/seduction29/03/18 12:29 AM
19

Lol, it's a done deal unless you screw it up. Just tee up a night where the three of you have drinks at your house or one of theirs.
/r/seduction29/03/18 12:29 AM
1

This is EXACTLY how to maintain interest. If she has a week to wonder about you, without contact, her attraction will grow enormously. Do nothing. And keep setting dates a week in advance. Wait for her to reach out.
/r/seduction29/03/18 12:27 AM
1

Do something friends do. Coffee, movie etc. DURING THE DAY.
/r/seduction24/03/18 01:51 AM
1

Take a big step back, let her reach out. If she doesn't, NEXT.
/r/seduction23/03/18 12:59 AM
1

I always go for the kiss on the first date. If I get the cheek, I'm done.
/r/seduction23/03/18 12:58 AM
1

Guys, stop fucking telling women you like them. Women communicate indirectly and pick up on things guys don't. Here's how to tell a woman you like her: "When are you free next week to get a drink?" OR "What's your phone number?" Here's how she says she doesn't like you: "I'm not sure, I'm really busy with family/study/work/some other shit" OR "I'm sorry I have a boyfriend" Here's how she says she is available and might be interested: She tells you when she is free OR You get her phone number Any…
/r/seduction23/03/18 12:55 AM
1

Lol at 5 year age gap warranting a topic. It's nothing. Just have fun.
/r/seduction23/03/18 12:51 AM
2

I do this ONLY to women I find very attractive (women love to be noticed) and want to open. He didn't follow up too well though. I would have responded "I was checking you out. What's your name? :)"
/r/seduction23/03/18 12:48 AM
2

lol. It's in your head.
/r/seduction23/03/18 12:45 AM
2

We talk daily Fucking stop! Harsh words, but necessary. Guys talk women right out of liking them all the time. Take note. Talk in person ON DATES. Only use text/phone for setting dates. Do you think your converssations would have turned shit if you were seeing each other once a week and only speaking then? :) Give it a week or so then CALL HER and set a date a week in advance. Sounds like you are setting dates like a chump too. Don't ask IF she wants to do BLA. Ask "When are you available next w…
/r/seduction23/03/18 12:45 AM
1

I'd have ghosted her by now. Plenty of other options out there bud. NEXT.
/r/seduction23/03/18 12:41 AM
3

Don't ignore her but don't bring it up. Act like it didn't happen. I have to do similar at LOT because every single bar, restaurant, cafe, grocery store etc that I frequent, without fail, I hit on and try to number close/set a date with ALL hot female employees. Through sheer numbers, this means a lot of them have ghosted me but I still return as a customer. It's never an issue. Just don't bring it up.
/r/seduction23/03/18 12:34 AM
1

Get new friends.
/r/seduction22/03/18 04:35 AM
9

Go find some other women instead.
/r/seduction22/03/18 02:34 AM
1

If you're already dating/sleeping with the chick, something stupid like "Where, I don't see anyone" or "She's not as cute as you are" or "Let's ask her for a threesome". Just don't agree.
/r/seduction22/03/18 12:28 AM
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Is this a question? Have done this more times than I can remember. Be awesome Banter & connect with her and all the other bartenders Number close and/or set a date then and there Bonus tip: No need to "warm her up" over time. Easy to do first time you meet.
/r/seduction22/03/18 12:16 AM
1

Lol, one of the oldest shit tests in the book.
/r/seduction21/03/18 11:58 PM
3

Yep. College, shopping malls, busy retail strips etc are great places to do this.
/r/seduction21/03/18 11:58 PM
1

Only if you're creepy. Fuck subtle. A confident guy looks where he wants. I have opened countless women this way, they love to be noticed.
/r/seduction21/03/18 11:53 PM
1

Probably not but don't hesitate.
/r/seduction21/03/18 02:36 AM
1

Stop thinking like a "nice guy" on dates. I used to do this too. Look for IOIs, escalate accordingly, never be shy to go for what you want.
/r/seduction21/03/18 02:19 AM
2

Especially exotic birds.
/r/seduction21/03/18 02:10 AM
2

This past year I've been on dates with a few women who confessed that night that they thought I was gay (or bi) until I asked them out because of all my gay jokes.
/r/seduction21/03/18 01:57 AM
1

How were her IOIs? Did you escalate? Kiss close? Be careful, if you don't make a move and she's giving IOIs, she will often feel rejected and lose interest.
/r/seduction21/03/18 01:55 AM
1

she talked so much about her problems Friendzone alert.
/r/seduction21/03/18 01:47 AM
3

You guys are retarded. This is a woman asking about taking photos to send to a man. Anyway OP: Keep your face out of them unless you are ok with them one day turning up online (none of the women I've got nudes from or made movies with has been worried about this BUT lots of guys do share nudes) Smile Progressively tease, don't just send 50 full frontal nudes, it's too boring.
/r/seduction21/03/18 01:44 AM
1

Experience.
/r/seduction21/03/18 01:40 AM
1

As I keep saying, looks count for SHIT. Is your personality, confidence, masculinity 8/10? Anyway, to answer your question, SPEAK TO MORE WOMEN. Abundance mentality. Not scarcity.
/r/seduction21/03/18 01:40 AM
4

OP and everyone else. Stop texting right after a date. Leave her a few days to wonder how it went, how you feel, what you're doing. This is how attraction grows with women AND it gives her a chance to reach out to YOU, which shows a higher level of attraction. Don't text her again dude. See her in class then ask when she's free next week and set a definite date. p.s. What was your date? What did you do?
/r/seduction21/03/18 01:38 AM
3

Who gives a fuck? I make jokes that I sometimes sleep with men, that I have a tiny penis, that I'm a virgin, that I live in my mom's basement, that I like animal porn etc. Sometimes people get confused and think these things are true (no one has even believed the virgin line though). I don't really mind what they think is true though. Why should you?
/r/seduction21/03/18 01:34 AM
2

My dates usually last 2-3 hours (not including time back at my place or hers if it goes well). Change venues a couple of times (but don't tell her ahead of time your plans, only the first meeting place). Don't do anything that prevents talking. I usually get a drink. Then a light meal somewhere else. Then something that allows kino like billiards, darts, miniature golf.
/r/seduction21/03/18 01:30 AM
5

Let me think back to my number closes in the past week: Women's fashion store. Walked past and saw a HB10 inside (wasn't sure if she was customer or clerk) so I went in and immediately approach her. Asked her opinion on mens colognes and birthday presents. 2 mins later, "I've gotta run but we should hang out." I typed her name into a new contact and handed her my phone so she could add her number. Restaurant. Hit on waitress. She was interesting and showing strong IOIs so I called her over befor…
/r/seduction21/03/18 01:26 AM
2

Friends see movies. You have made a grave error. How are you supposed to get to know each other when you are stuck in a dark room unable to talk for 2 hours? Change the plans to getting a drink. Never, ever, EVER go on movie dates. That's what couples and friends do. Not new dates. If your colleagues have their shit together, one of them is probably having drinks with her on Friday and she'll be cleaning his pipes 12 hours before you see the opening credits.
/r/seduction21/03/18 12:53 AM
1

Actions speak louder than words. Check her out, unashamedly.
/r/seduction21/03/18 12:45 AM
3

Max's 'The Natural' is great value.
/r/seduction21/03/18 12:44 AM
14

You must be in a strange workplace for them to first have openly told you they thought you were gay, and now to openly tell you they think you are a virgin. I'd troll them and say you're saving your anal virginity until you find the right man.
/r/seduction21/03/18 12:42 AM
45

Do it with a slight smirk and an air of confidence and it's never creepy. If someone holds eye contact, smile. A fun experiment is to make eye contact with EVERYONE you pass in a busy place like a mall. Most people will immediately avert their gaze. Women who are not into you will mostly avoid eye contact even when you KNOW they know you are trying to make eye contact. When you pass a guy who holds eye contact, there's this moment Alpha-to-Alpha recognition. When a woman holds eye contact say he…
/r/seduction21/03/18 12:35 AM
1

It was our private room. Presume they have cameras to see if stuff or people go overboard. Would be a great way for a wife or husband to throw their other half overboard in the middle of the night.
/r/seduction21/03/18 12:11 AM
1

Yes. Valuable learnings. Keep failing, learning and growing :)
/r/seduction20/03/18 07:28 AM
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No salt, just explaining for all the nubs :)
/r/seduction20/03/18 05:01 AM
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Yeah, you failed the shit tests so they escalated and you failed those so you're done. Game over. GG. 99% she wasn't trying to hurt you, just test you. Never react or get your feathers ruffled. She says she kissed a guy "Cool, I bet he was a great kisser, can I get his phone number?" or something equally silly and non-reactive. She just wanted to see what you were made of and you crumbled, thus you're not an alpha, thus she lost attraction. Anyway, just get over it. Maybe one day when you evolve…
/r/seduction20/03/18 04:57 AM
2

Knowledge + Action. That's it.
/r/seduction20/03/18 04:26 AM
1

Never used it.. so, "zero".
/r/seduction20/03/18 04:25 AM
2

Yeah but the most important part: There are security cameras ON the balconies attached to rooms. They will see everything (and everyone) you do out there. Discovered this after looking up while doing a chick from behind.. we'd been out there for about 20 mins before I noticed. I waved and carried on. No shame.
/r/seduction20/03/18 04:23 AM
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That's how they say "I have plenty of time but I do not want to see YOU. I'm not busy, I just don't want to see YOU. I prefer not to make you butthurt or angry so I won't tell you this directly. Instead, I will keep telling you I'm busy when you ask in the hopes that you understand what I actually MEAN." :) NEXT!
/r/seduction20/03/18 03:39 AM
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Nothing. Only insecure beta chodes react to guys hitting on a girl they're with. A confident alpha just enjoys the fact that the girl he's with is so desirable to other high quality men too.
/r/seduction20/03/18 03:37 AM
1

Continue dating multiple women until one of them asks the old "So where is this going?" question which leads to her telling you she wants to be exclusive 99% of the time. Then decide if you want to do the same, or not. If not, keep dating multiple women. Never hide the fact you are seeing other women. Don't ADVERTISE it but never be dishonest. Most of the women I'm seeing know I am seeing others or ASSUME I am seeing others. It's only when they fall for me they bring up the exclusive question. N…
/r/seduction20/03/18 01:16 AM
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Sex should always be the man's fault Make sure the woman feels comfortable Make sure the woman feels that she won't be judged Give her a story she can tell herself about why it happenend e.g. You suggest you go back to your place to watch a Disney movie. Later, she can tell herself "I don't know how it happened, we were just watching a Disney movie." One way to help her feel free of judgement is, earlier in the night, to mention your friend Sarah who is really sexually open and how much you resp…
/r/seduction20/03/18 01:12 AM
1

Welcome to the friend zone.
/r/seduction19/03/18 02:07 AM
1

Here's how to set a date. Tell her the EXACT time, day and place to meet WHEN YOU SET THE DATE. Never allow a call to confirm.
/r/seduction19/03/18 01:04 AM
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"So do I." hands her my phone
/r/seduction18/03/18 11:58 PM
1

Almost every chick I've slept with in the last 10 years has had a very different "type" to me. Most of them (part shit test btw) confess at some point "I normally go for guys that are X, Y, Z" or "I've never been with a X, Y, Z guy until now" or "You're not the type of guy I normally go for". Yeah, some girls have crazy rules in their head but most don't. If you are AWESOME, they will want you. Simple as that.
/r/seduction18/03/18 05:37 AM
1

Lead.
/r/seduction18/03/18 05:35 AM
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Guys, take note. Fail to go for the kiss when she's ripe for it and she will feel rejected and the next step is her losing interest. Better to get a cheek and know not to take her out again than to make her feel unwanted, unattractive and rejected by you.
/r/seduction18/03/18 05:34 AM
1

I'm always happy to pay but I'll let her pay if she genuinely wants to.
/r/seduction18/03/18 05:32 AM
2

Stop thinking so much.
/r/seduction18/03/18 05:28 AM
1

Well done, just gotta work on being more decisive and more of a leader. Next time, don't ask if she's free TONIGHT or some other night. Ask "what nights ARE you free". And, don't ask what she thinks about getting a drink. Just tell her "We'll grab a drink". "Lesson early in the morning" may or may not be true but gives her a reason for last minute resistance if you try to bring her back to your place. She may test you with "I have to be up early".
/r/seduction18/03/18 03:09 AM
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Well, at least he reached out but he seems quite shy. Ask when he's free to get a drink, then set a definite time, date and place. Bring some condoms and make sure you can go back to your place if it goes well.
/r/seduction17/03/18 06:26 AM
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Mistake. Be decisive. Ask "When are you free to hang out next week" then pick a time, day and place and lock it in. CALL her, chat for a min then ask when she's free. Trust me.
/r/seduction17/03/18 04:25 AM
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I asked her out today and she said "yeah sure :) !" Wait up. Did you actually set a DEFINITE date (time, place, day) or just ask if she would like to go out sometime?
/r/seduction17/03/18 12:45 AM
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Good for you. Progress. Call her in a few days, ask when she's available and set up a DEFINITE date a week in advance.
/r/seduction17/03/18 12:42 AM
3

Obvious troll is obvious. No one is this insecure or daft.
/r/seduction17/03/18 12:40 AM
1

Escalate, duh. Stipper gave you her logistics. VERY high chance she was DTF (saying she was ALONE and that her friends had all been picked up is a huge, double IOI). Bit of chat, then "I'm hungry, let's get food". Then jump an uber to yours and put a frozen pizza in the oven. Or "I have a great bottle of wine at my place, let's go". BTW, strippers can be great fun. Have been with quite a few. In general they: LOOOOOOVE making men happy and are VERY good at it Are very open, comfortable and aware…
/r/seduction17/03/18 12:34 AM
2

If your plans never happened previously, she was never interested in the first place. NEXT.
/r/seduction17/03/18 12:27 AM
1

I have never bought a girl I was interested in a drink (dates/already seduced are different). You should not need to make a woman feel obliged to give you a few minutes of her time by bribing her with a drink. You should be so awesome that she wants to spend time with YOU because of YOU. Let some other chump buy her drinks and you can invest that money in yourself.
/r/seduction17/03/18 12:26 AM
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Did you exchange FB details when you met? Or did he stalk you? IMO, he likes you but doesn't know much about seduction so take the lead and ask when he's free to meet up. Make it easy for him so you can get to know each other and see where it goes. Only way this will end in friendship is if one or both of you don't connect.
/r/seduction17/03/18 12:17 AM
2

She wants the D. Try again later.
/r/seduction16/03/18 10:02 AM
1

Great.
/r/seduction16/03/18 09:16 AM
2

Universal truth. Women want to feel: Heard Understood Safe Comfortable That's when they open up, bring joy, adventure, spontaneity, affection, fun etc. Regarding "game", ponder this. If I guy knows how to make you FEEL all of the above, and to maintain your attraction to him, you'll be happy. Whether this comes naturally to him or he's learned it (game) won't change how he can make you feel.
/r/seduction16/03/18 07:13 AM
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NEXT
/r/seduction16/03/18 06:12 AM
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Don't ask that question on a forum full of horny virgins pls.
/r/seduction16/03/18 06:07 AM
1

Yeah, guise, listen up. Women have this magic ability of FEELING and KNOWING things we don't tell them with words. Like when we're scared, or uncomfortable, or ful of shit. Agree re: Alpha tryhard. But not about being a beta (or worse). Fuck that for a joke. Be honest, you would take an alpha (who can also fulfil the beta/provider role) every day of the week over a beta who won't stand up for himself, is indecisive, lacks confidence and doesn't make you feel safe and secure.
/r/seduction16/03/18 06:06 AM
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She's right. Total turnoff. Too aggressive and cocky especially without proof. If you wanted to be smoother, a suitable response would have been "I'm a good cure for oneitis" and leave it at that. Class dismissed.
/r/seduction16/03/18 05:51 AM
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I'm not flirting with you, you're projecting your desire onto me ;) If you use miles (not kilometers), you're definitely far from me but it wouldn't be the first time a babe has travelled so I could show them a good time.
/r/seduction16/03/18 05:46 AM
3

On the bright side, you're pretty self aware (for a girl).
/r/seduction16/03/18 05:40 AM
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Hey noobs, listen to this women. This is exactly why I keep telling you chodes not to blow up her phone and to let her WONDER about you. Mystery + time = girl crazy about you.
/r/seduction16/03/18 05:36 AM
2

Just listen to your penis. It knows what to do at your age.
/r/seduction16/03/18 05:34 AM
1

Good looking does not equal confidence. Usually the opposite because looking good is an accident, not a developed skill/ability. I'm below avg looking and confident as FUCK because 1. My life is awesome and 2. 8s, 9s and 10s are the only women I do. PM and I'll help you get over your oneitis. I'm busy until late next week tho.
/r/seduction16/03/18 05:33 AM
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He's just a noob and doesn't know how to set definite plans and doesn't have the confidence to escalate. He also has other shit going on in his life. I would have nailed you half a dozen times by now. PM me and we'll get a drink next week. p.s. YOU have oneitis. Don't come across too needy or you will scare him off.
/r/seduction16/03/18 05:16 AM
2

Focus on your growth and the pursuit of your goals.
/r/seduction16/03/18 04:26 AM
1

-12"
/r/seduction16/03/18 04:15 AM
3

Anyway, call her in a few days, quick chat then ask when she's free to hang out. Set a definite date. EZ.
/r/seduction16/03/18 03:03 AM
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(I'm good at making girls laugh) Me too, when they see my tiny dick.
/r/seduction16/03/18 03:01 AM
1

Load of horse shit. You're lying to yourself and making excuses because it's easier than facing reality. Your mindset is so negative it's toxic. You realise this? Thinking like this will fuck your life up. In the span to two sentences: "old dude", "trying", "so risky", not "remotely confident in being able to achieve", "wasted money", "failed again". What woman would be attracted to someone who thinks like this? I didn't say go study. I said go read a Tony Robbins book and sort your shit out. Ba…
/r/seduction16/03/18 12:39 AM
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OP is right. Some will accept reality, others will ignore it and lie to themselves so they can use their bullshit excuse of not being "good looking" to make them feel better about their POOR results OR as a reason to not even try because there's "no point". Source: Below average looking guy regularly picking up 9s and 10s.
/r/seduction16/03/18 12:26 AM
1

God is not real. Maybe a cockblock but easily salvaged.
/r/seduction16/03/18 12:07 AM
1

I don't text women I'm not interested in. No need to lead them down a blind alley.
/r/seduction16/03/18 12:06 AM
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NEVER ASK. Just don't. There's no fucking need. It does NOTHING to help you or the interaction. Women can tell if you're interested in them and they will act accordingly.
/r/seduction15/03/18 11:58 PM
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I wasn't clever enough to get a degree No, you just weren't motivated enough :) (nothing wrong with no degree but don't blame your lack of cleverness... it was a lack of a WHY, a lack of a strong enough REASON, a lack of a PASSIONATE interest to push you) genetics. We can't all be super smart. Excuse/lie. Some of the "dumbest" people I know are the most succesful I know. Always struggled at school So did I. So did lots of the world's wealthiest and most successful people. Go read a Tony Robbins …
/r/seduction15/03/18 11:45 PM
1

OP did great (in terms of seduction). No comment on the ethics/morality.
/r/seduction15/03/18 11:39 PM
2

IMO, it's the traits, not the wealth. I'm surrounded daily by successful people. I surround myself with these people because they are awesome humans. They're intelligent, charming, kind, compassionate, considerate, witty, healthy, happy, wise, driven, focused, inspiring, emotionally intelligent, confident, ambitious etc. Just so happens that everyone I know with these traits is also wealthy as a result.
/r/seduction15/03/18 11:36 PM
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No, though at 32 you should have both of those. Fun, witty, intelligent, charismatic etc.
/r/seduction15/03/18 05:01 AM
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Be awesome. Be fun. Exude confidence. Don't pre-judge (e.g. I picked up a timid, shy, innocent looking 18 year old recently at a bar. I was thinking the odds of me taking her home were 0.01%. I persisted, we went back to hers (to my surprise, she was still acting super shy and innocent). I arrive and she a fucking crate full of chains, whips, leather, sex toys -- like, everything you can imagine. A fucking crate full). If I had pre-judged, I would have left the set after deciding she was probabl…
/r/seduction15/03/18 01:40 AM
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The type of girls who are attracted to wealth are the type of girls to avoid. I agree BUT people often mistake traits required to become wealthy (drive, focus, purpose, ambition, confidence, influence, social skills) which are INCREDIBLY attractive to women, for women being attracted to a man's wealth itself.
/r/seduction15/03/18 01:32 AM
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I'm older than you and the last dozen or so women I've been with were college age. Not sure about the college bars, maybe you weren't that well calibrated.
/r/seduction15/03/18 01:22 AM
2

Winner.
/r/seduction15/03/18 01:03 AM
2

Good lesson for sure. Another one. Don't text back so far. Come to seddit first ;)
/r/seduction15/03/18 01:02 AM
2

Just some commentary for others who read this FR. yesterday she asked if we could hang out today.. as friends Women always want sex to be the man's fault. And having a story like "we just went to get pizza" or "he had to check on his cat at home" or "we were just watching a Disney movie" or "we were only hanging out as friends" means they won't feel like a slut... compared to "he invited me over to his place" or "I went home with him" I know where this is going and I really can't right now Anoth…
/r/seduction15/03/18 01:01 AM
1

Don't be fucking boring. Don't text a question. Text something random and funny that DOES NOT NEED A RESPONSE.
/r/seduction15/03/18 12:36 AM
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Obviously I'm not happy about it You are super needy to be butthurt about this. She can probably tell and is testing you with IOIs. NEXT.
/r/seduction15/03/18 12:34 AM
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Dude, I remember you posting about this. You should not go on "dates" with others present. That includes friends OR family. This is exactly why. If she's keen, you'll be worried about escalating, so will she and if you successfully seduce her, she'll feel like others will judge her as a SLUT. Lesson is simple: NO GROUP DATES. EVER. EVER. EVER.
/r/seduction15/03/18 12:32 AM
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SHIT TEST FAILED. That's a classic shit test women pull to see how easily they can bend your will. The correct response is a very direct and clear "No, just us." type response. That's it. 95% of the time she'll back down on her request. 5% of the time she won't and you just tell her "Ok Sarah, I'd love to meet but we'll have reschedule for a time when it's just us.".
/r/seduction15/03/18 12:26 AM
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I think she is interested in me, She agreed to meet again, she IS interest in you. Anyway, it is YOUR job to be the leader and escalate physically. ACT like a lover, not a friend. Or you will become one. Always go for the kiss at the end of the date -- it's what a confident man does. You'll know if it's worth having another date after that... if you get the cheek, move on.
/r/seduction15/03/18 12:22 AM
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Phone. Facebook is "easier" for the guy (therefore, comes across less confident) and it's lower investment from her so you'll get a lot more FBs than #s.
/r/seduction15/03/18 12:17 AM
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If she did that, she is not a friend and never was. Move on, bro. She'll get over it, or she won't. Not your problem. p.s. I disagree with all the turds on here saying never mention "game" etc to women. Just OWN it. "Yeah, I study everything I want to get good at from health and happiness to business and seduction. The better I get at seduction, the more joy I can bring to others (women) AND I'll be able to seduce the girl of my dreams when she walks into my life."
/r/seduction15/03/18 12:16 AM
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I used to think he was a charlatan -- for years I ignored his stuff because it seemed to good to be true, and I could tell he was a great seller. But so many successful people I know praised his material so I read his books. And attended his seminars. And thanks mostly to his tools and strategies (and my effort in implementing them), I'm happy, healthy, wealthy and most importantly, fulfilled. You might be too young to have many role models, especially in business, but Tony has impacted so many …
/r/seduction15/03/18 12:10 AM
1

Ready a Tony Robbins book. For real :)
/r/seduction14/03/18 07:42 AM
1

I grew up in a pretty small town, can relate to everyone knowing everything. If I hooked up with a girl on Saturday, everyone in every school knew monday. Don't worry what others think, live your own life.
/r/seduction13/03/18 10:00 PM
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Dude, ask for her number, hand her your phone and she'll put it in. Don't give her your number, means you lose control over the interaction. The man has to lead from the start but the woman will begin pursing as her attraction grows.
/r/seduction13/03/18 07:18 AM
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Honestly, the best advice I have is to TELL him what you WANT him to DO. Guys are really dumb, trust me, I am one. Like actually tell him to kiss you when the time is right, invite yourself back to his, pick up his hand and put it where you want it, TELL him you want HIM to make a move etc. Like I said, guys are legit this dumb. If you want it to happen, you'll need to be direct and clear. Good luck! p.s. Corey Wayne has a lot of videos covering this stuff including women seducing men.
/r/seduction13/03/18 04:50 AM
1

Your logical man brain is getting in the way :) It doesn't matter what you DO, it's how you make her FEEL.
/r/seduction13/03/18 04:44 AM
1

Wish I was this awake at age 16. Just approach after class man. Be direct, walk up and say hi.
/r/seduction13/03/18 03:06 AM
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NO NO NO. No gifts/gestures like that until you're dating. Comes across as needy and/or a bribe for sex. Save that shit for if you end up in an exclusive relationship. She'll love that you remembered from all those months ago. Reverse the order for sure. DON'T tell her though. Keep the plans a mystery. If you want to get her more invested, give her a challenge (that relates to what you're going) like "Wear comfy shoes" or "bring a pen". She'll wonder "what the fuck has he got planned" and that'l…
/r/seduction13/03/18 03:05 AM
1

It won't get better with your current attitude (mindset), buddy. Work on that.
/r/seduction13/03/18 02:34 AM
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For future reference, I usually set up dates like this: 1. Drink for 30 mins 2. Dinner somewhere else for 60-90 mins 3. Something physical (bowling, darts, pool, mini golf) - allows for kino after we've already connected and easy escalation back to my place or hers for sex after Going to multiple places also gives the feeling of having been on multiple dates. Helps lots to accelerate towards the end goal - sex. Since you're going straight to bowling, the above doesn't apply but it's easy bro. "S…
/r/seduction13/03/18 02:33 AM
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IOIs are easy (unless it's their job to be overly friendly). One might be a coincidence. Two might be but less chance. Three is pushing it. More than that, she's rolling out the red fucking carpet. Early bird gets the worm. If a woman makes eye contact then exposes her neck/flicks her hair, approach and say hi. Worst thing is it goes nowhere. More likely, she'll admire your confidence and emotional intelligence.
/r/seduction13/03/18 02:28 AM
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You have a FRIEND in REAL LIFE who has PROOF of results. What better source? Yet you are turning to a bunch of nerds on Reddit, a few with some claimed results, and most with no idea. Do yourself the favor and ask him. Don't be a turd, just say "Dude, I admire your game with women and want to learn. How are you so good at text game?" or something. Or better yet, show him this fucking post. Like literally my post and your thread. I've shared me own text/social media interactions with friends (pri…
/r/seduction13/03/18 02:24 AM
1

What this guy said.
/r/seduction13/03/18 12:38 AM
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Search for IOIs.
/r/seduction13/03/18 12:27 AM
1

Don't overthink it. Wait for her to reach out, if she doesn't, hit her up in a week and arrange another date.
/r/seduction13/03/18 12:26 AM
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Congrats on the approach but lol, that age gap is no excuse. You used it to avoid the chance of rejection. The last dozen or so women I've been with were at least 10 years younger than me. I'm older than you and I've picked up a lot of 18 and 19 year olds. Not once has it been an issue. Not once.
/r/seduction13/03/18 12:24 AM
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And all those times I pursued. First mistake. Come from a place of abundance and let them pursue you or pick up other women who are more interested. theyre always aloof and don't show real interest like initiating a meetup or a good morning text What the fuck? Good morning text? What the...? Are you expecting them to fall madly in love with you after a few dates? One reason for my lack of progress is my Aspergers. Bullshit. You're making an excuse and playing a victim. I'm an aspy too. Yeah, we …
/r/seduction13/03/18 12:21 AM
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I don't hang out with women if their friend(s) will be around. They'll usually feel judged/like a slut if they reciprocate your advances. Best thing you can do now is bring a friend and isolate. Just have your friend occupy her friend, or you two can "go grab some food" etc.
/r/seduction13/03/18 12:16 AM
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Smells like oneitis. Don't get too hung up on this chick. Just organise another date a week from now and let it play out. p.s. Never do movie dates, you missed out on 2 hours of getting to know one another.
/r/seduction13/03/18 12:14 AM
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You are focused on the wrong thing. Focus on meeting women, getting to know them, hanging out, having fun and hooking up. If you are both really into each other and available, things will just unfold.
/r/seduction13/03/18 12:12 AM
1

You ever wonder what makes successful people so successful? They are willing to ask questions and learn from people who have the results they want.
/r/seduction12/03/18 11:58 PM
0

Nothing in life is free of risk. Vet your partners as best you can and calibrate and improve your emotional/social intelligence to do your best avoid psychopaths. Or never have sex.
/r/seduction12/03/18 05:13 AM
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If you're so keen to learn, ask him.
/r/seduction12/03/18 03:27 AM
1

It's rare for women to meet such a confident man.
/r/seduction12/03/18 02:05 AM
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Stop texting. Like, text to set up the next date and connect in person. p.s. Back off while she's going through this.. let her reach out to you.
/r/seduction12/03/18 01:49 AM
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I think you are misunderstanding. They're probably not turned off, they are shit testing you to make sure you ARE the confident alpha you appear.
/r/seduction12/03/18 01:33 AM
2

She reached out for a reason. Call her and set up a definite date. If you're too much of a pussy to call, text something like "Because you wanted to hang out, obviously. When are you free to get together for a drink next week?".
/r/seduction12/03/18 12:11 AM
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I usually wait 3-5 days after the first date, call and organise the next one for a week later. But often, the girl will reach out before I contact her. If she reaches out before me, I organise the next date then, but still a week in advance.
/r/seduction12/03/18 12:07 AM
1

I wait for them to contact me. If it gets to around a week, I'll call and organise another date.
/r/seduction11/03/18 04:46 AM
1

Just relocate somewhere more private even if it's temporary or create privacy by re-positioning. One of the easiest ways I do is isolating her by leading her about 20 steps away from a group towards a bathroom, kitchen or somewhere else (lead her, don't ASK permission either. TELL HER. "Come here", "Come, I'm going to show you something" or just take her hand and lead without words, but a look). If you position your bodies right while moving you can get away with fingering her as you walk and no…
/r/seduction11/03/18 02:00 AM
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We talk daily over text This is where you fucked up. You're lucky anything happened after this. She might keep you around for some D on the side or validation, but when someone better seduces her, you're toast. You chill out by not having oneitis. You should be seeing lots of other women. Let her reach out, don't contact her first.
/r/seduction11/03/18 01:52 AM
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Speak your truth. Don't pussy foot around like a bitch. Be direct and don't hold back. If you hate it more than anything, tell her EXACTLY THAT. I was with a girl last night and she asked what music I'm into. I tell her and she's like "I've never really heard that style". I said "You wouldn't like it, trust me". I ask her what music she's into. She tells me and I ask her to play her fav song. Half way through I look her straight in the eye and say "This is so bad I want to die, seriously". She l…
/r/seduction11/03/18 01:49 AM
1

Be upfront with your parents so they're cool with it or you get a firm "no way you are bringing women back here Hotel/airbnb etc but it adds up if you are seducing lots of women (unless you make the women pay) Pick up women whose logistics you know allows you to go back to theirs (they're in a hotel, they live alone, their housemates are away) Get your own place
/r/seduction11/03/18 01:39 AM
1

Probably no chance of recovery. She'll either never fuck you again, or she'll slowly back away over time, or very quickly back away if you show ANY signs of neediness, clinginess or being a beta chode.
/r/seduction11/03/18 01:37 AM
2

Jesus fucking.... dude, do not tell her you have feelings or mention the relationship word. It will scare her the fuck away (too much pressure and you showing neediness). NEVER, bring that shit up. Let her bring it up in the way women usually do. At some point when she's in love, she will ask something like "Where is this going"? or "What are we?" etc. Ask "What do you mean"? She'll say "Where are we going?" or "Us". Again, "What do you mean". She'll usually, eventually, blurt out that she wants…
/r/seduction11/03/18 01:35 AM
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All I will say is, if you do end up sleeping with her: 1. She will need to feel like you won't judge her for doing it and must feel super comfortable 2. It has to be "your fault" eg YOU invited her to your place to watch a movie, YOU made the first move, YOU took off her panties etc 3. You will be fulfilling needs not being met by her bf, so you're doing her a favor but it might completely fuck her emotionally so tread with caution
/r/seduction11/03/18 01:24 AM
2

Only when it's true.
/r/seduction10/03/18 11:06 PM
1

It is "weird" (see: makes you STAND OUT) because other guys don't call. It conveys confidence, directness -- a man who knows what he wants and goes for it. Imagine being the girl who receives your call. She's been getting texts from 7 other guys which are going nowhere but all of them want to seduce her. Then you just straight up call, chat for a few mins then set a definite date. Next week you're on a date with her and she's been thinking about you all week while the 7 chodes are still texting …
/r/seduction10/03/18 11:06 PM
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Go for want you want. The end.
/r/seduction09/03/18 02:54 AM
3

Fuck me. This is not hard to get. Do you think women have nothing better to do than immediately reply to your every text? Chill out. Call. CALL HER. Like, call her. And, if the conversation is "going nowhere" that's your fault. Be direct. Ask WHEN she is free to get together next week then set a definite time, day and place.
/r/seduction09/03/18 02:51 AM
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CALL. Chit chat for no more than 5-10 minutes then ask when she is free to get together and SET A DEFINITE DATE.
/r/seduction09/03/18 01:15 AM
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Dude, women generally don't give a fuck about your age so get that out of your head. The last dozen or so women I've been with were more than 10 years younger. I'm nice and just found this for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLTBb0K7k8U
/r/seduction08/03/18 11:44 PM
1

No. Sorry dude, but no. I've been with lots of shy girls before. It's just a matter of calibrating and taking the LEAD at the appropriate speed, as with any other woman (shy or otherwise). Asking women if they "want to go on a date" or confessing you "like them" is so beta, needy and off putting to most. Yeah, you might get a date, she might think it's cute, it might flatter her, but it won't build attraction nearly as effectively if you just take the lead and ask her out. SHOW your intent throu…
/r/seduction08/03/18 11:36 PM
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Like I said, embrace it. Exuding confidence makes women melt. Nothing is more attractive to women than a confident man. Can't count the number of times a woman has straight-up said something like "You are SO confident" and been all over me a second later (p.s. I always agree if they tell me I'm confident e.g. "Duh, I'm awesome") Sometimes I get "You're arrogant/cocky" (shit test) to which I reply "It's not arrogant if it's true". Unless it IS an issue for you, don't tone it town at all. Turn it …
/r/seduction08/03/18 11:33 PM
2

There are many better alternatives until you are in love/a couple.
/r/seduction08/03/18 11:18 PM
2

Read 3% Man by Corey Wayne and watch his videos. IMO, he is the best intro to this world. He has 100s of videos and his book is fucking incredible. Fuck this sub, fuck the game, fuck the rest. It can all come later. 3% man lays the groundwork like NOTHING else. Do as the author says and listen 10-15 times.
/r/seduction08/03/18 10:01 AM
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Dude, EMBRACE IT. I'm confident as FUCK. Women can smell it a mile away and start leaking when they are near me. Don't be a dickhead, but yes, be confident as HELL. Assume every woman wants you and most of them will. That's how it works.
/r/seduction08/03/18 09:58 AM
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NO MOVIES. NO MOVIES. NO MOVIES. You can't talk the whole fucking time, no chance to connect or build seduction. Never, never, NEVER NEEEEVEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR do movies until you're in love and a couple. Shame you don't have her number but hit her up on facebook. Be direct. "Hey Sarah, when are you free next week to hang out?" When she tells you, reply with "Great, we'll meet at <bowling place> at 7pm on Thursday. See you there. p.s. Text me on XXXXXXXXXX so I have y…
/r/seduction08/03/18 09:56 AM
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Any time, that's why I'm here.
/r/seduction08/03/18 09:52 AM
2

Good on you for being willing to learn. I always text girls my name as I get their number. After that, I never remind them who I am. It's a blown opportunity to tell if they're into you and it's also needy. If they forget and ask "who is this", NEXT. If they say something like "I was wondering when I'd hear from you" it's a good sign. Your text would not have come across the way you intended. Next time, send something short, random and funny that doesn't need a reply. Like "I just saw an old lad…
/r/seduction08/03/18 12:32 AM
2

Are you trolling? Wait a few days and maybe she might have ghosted you. Or you're just boring as fuck. Next time, next girl, don't send "hi". Send something of value, make her laugh or smile or something.
/r/seduction08/03/18 12:14 AM
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Unless they're SUPER keen (in which case, I invite to my place to cook dinner), I always meet women for a drink. If they're boring AF, not what I expected etc, I can bail in 20 mins. If not, we can talk the whole time (well, she can talk and I can listen). Then we can move on to eat somewhere nearby and also she can talk the whole time again, then I take her somewhere that will allow for some kino/escalation (darts, pool, bowling, miniature golf). The key is to do a few things in one night which…
/r/seduction08/03/18 12:04 AM
1

You need to make your own call on this but my philosophy is this: If a woman reaches out to me, I set up a date. We meet and I see what happens. I NEVER ask if she has a bf. I don't care. Her actions will tell me if she is interested in me and that is all that matters. If she is into me, I will seduce her and she will have a GREAT time.
/r/seduction07/03/18 11:49 PM
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I had no idea at ALL when I was 17. You are miles ahead.
/r/seduction07/03/18 11:13 PM
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Women get this stuff without it needing to be said. The fact that last time she wanted to bring her sis and you said NO clearly showed your intention was romantic. And she'll feel your vibe when you're out. Make strong eye contact, let her do most of the talking by asking questions etc. She'll know. Just don't do something dumb like see a movie where you can't get to know each other and seduce her. Get dinner, hang at your place etc. Or drink if you are legally allowed to in your country.
/r/seduction07/03/18 11:13 PM
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DO NOT tell her you like her explicitly. Women pick this stuff up intuitively. You are killing it though bro. You asked her out and said no when she wanted to bring her sister. This is GOOD. Makes your intentions clear. You also pulled back after, which is also good. Ask her out but don't call it a date. "Get together" is perfect. Set a definite time and place and go from there.
/r/seduction07/03/18 10:53 PM
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Bro. Approach, make eye contact if possible, say hi, tell them you'd like to hang out over the break, get number and set a definite date. Repeat.
/r/seduction07/03/18 08:05 AM
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No one looks "alpha". They ARE (act) or are not. Not trying to break your balls but you need to hear this. You are a nice guy to those girls and you don't realise it. You are thinking surface level stuff like your height, looks, them telling you you're sweet etc are important and they are not. This shit does not arouse women or build attraction. Their panties are dryer than the Sahara desert in your presence. They want a strong, confident, direct, decisive leader. An alpha male. If you were out …
/r/seduction07/03/18 08:04 AM
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Seriously, go find some free or paid content on tinder game. :)
/r/seduction07/03/18 07:56 AM
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I don’t believe confidence is the deciding factor in whether or not a girl wants to bone you. There’s literally no way for them to tell if a dude is not confident You have much to learn, apprentice. It has EVERYTHING to do with it.
/r/seduction07/03/18 07:55 AM
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You're making excuses and believing your own BS will make it a self-fulfilling prophecy. Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RON5lQBBtbo
/r/seduction07/03/18 07:55 AM
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How many books have you read? How many women have you approached? See above. gg ez wp
/r/seduction07/03/18 06:50 AM
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Cringeworthy. Too enthusiastic(!). Too much info "Just got back". Too much fluff "I now may or may not". No humour. No emotional spikes. Don't ask questions that make her feel obliged to respond, it lowers your chances. Just saw your proposed follow ups too. Jesus dude, coming across as needy and lame. Truth bombs hurt, but you need to know. Find some women to give you feedback on those lines and see how they would react.. (hint: NEXT) I'm not here to teach you how to be you but I would have jus…
/r/seduction07/03/18 06:47 AM
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Depends on context but yeah, I've had this exact line a few times before and followed it up with "I wouldn't trust me either" with strong eye contact and a smirk and strong escalation. Next minute, sex. Women want sex to be the man's fault. "I don't trust you" means she can tell herself the story "Oh it wasn't my fault, he couldn't help himself, I even told him I couldn't trust him. The sex was totally his fault". It stops them feeling like a slut.
/r/seduction07/03/18 06:35 AM
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Ew. If I got that message I would have ignored it too. There's a course or video online, I forget who, one of the RSD guys I think, about Tinder Game. Worth investing the time/money in my friend.
/r/seduction07/03/18 06:27 AM
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Fuck dude, you really need to invest in a Tony Robbins program. Get Personal Power 2. Seriously, it will change your life and clear out a lot of the bullshit you are feeding yourself.
/r/seduction07/03/18 06:25 AM
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They see you as a "nice guy"/beta orbiter. Going to the movies, having coffee and listening to their problems is most of what you will be doing while Alpha guy is nailing them one by one. This is the way the world works my friend :) I've been the nice guy too. And I managed to sleep with a bunch of these women amazingly, but never went anywhere worthwhile and all of them moved on to an Alpha soon after.
/r/seduction07/03/18 06:17 AM
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Go watch some of the author's videos on Youtube. There are 100s.
/r/seduction07/03/18 06:12 AM
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It's not what women SAY it's what they DO. How many of these girls have slept with you? ... Woulda girl rather be with a ugly fat guy who is an alpha or a good looking who is kind and sweet Fat alpha guy any day of the week. Who is going to protect and provide? Women with high self awareness will agree with this. Those without good self awareness will disagree but still go for or want the alpha when he shows up.
/r/seduction07/03/18 03:23 AM
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"Good looking" is NOT the same as "Attractive". Attractive men are leaders, know what they want, are confident, are focused on their mission and purpose, are fun and funny and live awesome lives. Good looking guys are not what women want. Might get some guys in the door but the women will show them out as soon as she realises he has none of the traits she is attracted to. Being told things like "it's so cute when you x" and "it's cute because I know you care" are very likely to be friendzone com…
/r/seduction07/03/18 01:27 AM
2

3% Man shits on every other book I have read in this domain. I'm not wasting time explaining why, go look at the reviews. Almost perfect scores and some detailed info on content.
/r/seduction07/03/18 01:14 AM
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She's reached out so set up a DEFINITE date. Easiest way to know where she's at. "Great to hear form you X. I'd love to get together for a drink next week. When are you free?". If she tells you when she's available, tell her an exact TIME, PLACE and DAY to meet and leave it at that.
/r/seduction07/03/18 01:13 AM
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You forgot sex toys and kink stuff ;) They're not always going to come out (especially for same night lays) but when the girl is down and this stuff is on hand, yikes! The toys are especially good when you bring home more than one chick. I always have two unopened vibrators on hand for the neat freak (can add up $$ though) so I also keep used ones in their own storage sleeves, always cleaned and make sure the cleaning liquid is visible with them so they know they're fresh.
/r/seduction07/03/18 01:07 AM
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When you are questioning if you should do X or not, you probably should have done it 15 minutes ago. Very true. This is along the lines of: If you think she likes you, she probably does. Guys are generally slow to realise.
/r/seduction07/03/18 12:45 AM
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I used to think like this. I have an abundance mindset now, act accordingly, talk to lots of women, go on lots of dates and move on quickly if they're not super attracted to me. Why waste my time? I'm a busy guy. There's 100,000,000s of suitable women out there. The thing is, if you talk to and meet enough women you will find plenty whose attraction level is VERY high and it makes things much easier. IF instead you get caught up TRYING (expending energy and time) to lift the attraction level of …
/r/seduction06/03/18 09:47 PM
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Yeah, a point I didn't touch on is when done right, (you really need to calibrate so she does not lose interest), this can wind a woman like like CRAZY. When you finally do the deed...the resulting gamma ray burst is detectable across the other side of the universe.
/r/seduction06/03/18 09:41 PM
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Not important. She didn't know, most of the women I'm with don't know. Most I will tell them in the industry...
/r/seduction06/03/18 08:50 PM
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Women often don't say what they mean, especially because they know how crazy a butthurt guy can become if they hurt his feelings by directly rejecting him. They'll tell you they're busy with work, study, family, not agree to a definite date in the future and HOPE that you figure it out. If she wanted to see him, she'd be seeing him. It's as simple as that. This is a flat out rejection. Plus, WHY WASTE YOUR TIME WITH WOMEN WHO ARE NOT DYING TO MEET UP?
/r/seduction06/03/18 08:29 PM
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A lot of guys, myself included (until I learned otherwise) would be clueless until a lot further along. I suspect many would still not be "sure" at the final bullet point.
/r/seduction06/03/18 05:56 AM
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Reminds me of this classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa-4IAR_9Yw
/r/seduction06/03/18 05:48 AM
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No, and don't be mistaken. Never brag. That's weak, needy, beta behaviour so NEVER do it. Don't tell them you're awesome, just BE awesome. A woman will FEEL what is true. I convey how awesome I am and how great my life is by SHOWING how happy and positive I am, DOING what I want, FOCUSING on my mission and purpose, BEING healthy and wise, SHARING the way I think and how I see the world, BEING strong in my opinions and CONFIDENT in my actions, OWNING myself and MAKING a fool of myself without fea…
/r/seduction06/03/18 05:47 AM
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I assume you were interested in her? If she keeps approaching that's a very good sign. This happens a lot (I used to do it too). Guy is into girl but doesn't know if she is into him, can't pick up on IOIs or overthinks it ("maybe she is just being friendly") and is so scared of rejection that he does nothing and after a while she gives up/loses interest/feels rejected. How long ago did she first approach? Has she given up now?
/r/seduction06/03/18 05:08 AM
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You have to look at IOIs in context not isolation. One or two might just be a coincidence, but a number of them paints a different picture. In your case, MAYBE. She approached you/put herself in your orbit AND gave you a compliment with a touch of shit text thrown in the mix - all good signs, but not enough to KNOW. I'd have responded with something funny/self-deprecatory, held eye contact and observed what happened (more IOIs or no more IOIs).
/r/seduction06/03/18 04:49 AM
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You got 90% of it right, but the final 10% counts for a lot. Move on. Give it time and space. MAYBE she will reach out to you but don't bug her again. Right now, you have zero chance of sleeping with her again. :)
/r/seduction06/03/18 04:27 AM
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Yeah, repeatedly. I went into it with the rule "I will not make a move unless she is practically sitting on my dick" and expected her to lose interest and go home after a few hours but she kept at it. In the end, she turned to her side (back facing me) and pressed her whole body up against mine (obviously including her ass against my dick). Rest is history.
/r/seduction06/03/18 04:25 AM
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Looks pretty good. Not enough context to say for sure (maybe responding a little quick and lack of humour/banter but would need to see more to really know). Definitely not terrible compared to a lot of what I've seen (and what I used to do myself..).
/r/seduction06/03/18 04:14 AM
1

Good, just keep it up. EZ.
/r/seduction06/03/18 04:09 AM
1

Until she brings up the old "Where is this going" topic and you ask "What do you mean" until she comes right out and (usuaully) says "I want us to be exclusive" assume she is seeing other guys and YOU should be seeing other women. I get mad and storm out of the place. She follows me and tells me she just did that so he will go away. You're lucky she even wanted to speak to you after this... Never lose your cool. Even if you're upset. Women want to feel safe, secure, heard and understood. No woma…
/r/seduction06/03/18 04:08 AM
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Cool. Move on bro. If she is interested she will reach out to you. If you don't hear from her for a few weeks, and you want to be sure, "ping" her once. Send her a meme or a random funny comment that does not require a response (low investment form her) and see how she reacts or if she even responds. This will tell you once and for all. If she starts a dialogue, say's it's nice to hear from you etc, asks how you are, maybe some interest. If you get "lol", NEXT. In the mean time, go pick up some …
/r/seduction06/03/18 03:57 AM
1

You didn't phrase it like "your majesty" but that's basically how you acted by asking if she has some time to spend with you. Don't ask like that and leave it open. Ask "WHEN are you free to get together next week?" Not IF, WHEN. Then she will tell you "I'm free Thursday and Sunday after 6". Then set a definite date. If she won't tell you some times she is free, she ain't interested and you can move on. If she wants to see you, she will help you. You should value your time. Even if you have noth…
/r/seduction06/03/18 03:52 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJmR54q8Ww - watch this and some of his others on flaking, cancelling etc. You must be willing to walk away and show that you value your time.
/r/seduction06/03/18 03:48 AM
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Glad you suck at texting because calling is almost always the way to go. This shit about texting only to set up dates is on point and does NOT just apply to people over 25. The last 24, 23, 22, 21, 20, 19 and 18 year old I slept with barely got a word out of me by text even when she was texting a lot I was responding a little and with not much. This gives them time to fall for you by wondering about you, and because you stand out (because all other guys text). It shows you are a busy guy with an…
/r/seduction06/03/18 03:46 AM
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she agreed then says she forgot she had work that night She didn't forget she had work, she just didn't want to see you and that was an excuse I told her no sweat Don't be a bitch. Value your time. Women respect this. Not a man they can walk all over. and to just let me know next week when she has time. No. If ever a flake, call and make a DEFINITE date. Don't leave it in her court. I texted her this morning if she has some time this week to spend time with me Don't. Again, set definite plans. A…
/r/seduction06/03/18 03:38 AM
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You drove her and you to another city? That may have come across as needy. Did you escalate? You say you had a great time but if you didn't escalate she probably felt you rejected her or she friend zoned you because you didn't have the confidence to make a move. "I want this girl" IS needy. What about all the other HBs you are seeing or could pick up? "do everything in my power to get this girl, she's just my type". Fuck man. You have oneitis. Probably too late but if you really want help post w…
/r/seduction06/03/18 03:31 AM
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Helps a fair bit but let's be clear what I mean here. If you are king of the hill in whatever social scene/subculture etc, it will draw women to you. BUT... The same is true if you are out with friends eating dinner or at a bar and you are confident, have strong posture, get along well with all the wait staff, are laughing and show you are having a good time and seem like a guy people would want to get to know. If you go out ALONE to a club/bar, you can create very high social status in an hour …
/r/seduction06/03/18 02:46 AM
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This guy gets it.
/r/seduction06/03/18 01:29 AM
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Looks don't matter when it comes to women being attracted to men (beyond the first few seconds). I have said this so many times -- I swear it is the most common misconception out there. You are focused on things/excuses that are literally 100% not relevant. Just be awesome, focus on your mission/purpose and be confident and women will not be able to resist you.
/r/seduction06/03/18 01:28 AM
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IMO, no. Better be direct so your intentions are CLEAR. If she's not ready, you will find out. If you give her mixed signals, be a nice guy etc she'll either think you are a pussy, feel rejected and wonder what's wrong with her because you didn't escalate (then lose interest), put you in friend zone because you do friend things etc. I have learned these lessons the hard way.
/r/seduction06/03/18 01:25 AM
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Stop texting her back so fast dude. Chill out. Wait at least as long as she is taking or you'll give off a needy vibe. Anyway, just call her, banter a bit and spike her emotions so she knows you're cool and to you build some rapport then ask "When are you free to get together for a drink?". Then tell her "Ok, we'll do Thursday next week at 7pm at <place>" then "OK, I've gotta run. See you there". Don't ask her out by text.. it's what beta males, needy guys and pussies who are scared or rejection…
/r/seduction05/03/18 04:27 AM
1

Your check is bouncing.
/r/seduction05/03/18 04:14 AM
2

I was gonna write a bit post but I remembered Corey Wayne has covered this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJmR54q8Ww
/r/seduction05/03/18 03:30 AM
1

Indicators Of Interest. Google them.
/r/seduction05/03/18 03:20 AM
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You're gonna fuck this up if you haven't already so listen closely. Don't fucking ask her out for coffee. Friends do coffee. Friends do movies. Also, if you are texting and noticing she is "taking too long" to reply, you are texting too fast and too much. Stop being a needy chode. It will push her away. She is probably initiating stuff because she is interested in you but if you reply with a wall of text, or faster than she replies, or with questions instead of funny remaks that rarely NEED a re…
/r/seduction05/03/18 03:19 AM
1

I'm almost certain it was some combination of these: 1. You fucked up. You texted too much, didn't maintain mystery, didn't set firm plans (exact time and place agreed upon when the date was first set so no confirmation was needed), sounded needy, were too available by text if they messaged, became a "nice guy", actually called it a "date" instead of "having drinks" etc 2. Something changed. They hooked up with another guy, got with an ex etc (very low chance that this happened to three) 3. They…
/r/seduction05/03/18 03:05 AM
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Most women are crazy-emotional after a longterm relationship breakup. Don't pay much attention to her words, but rather, her actions. She was willing to see you so she has some interest. Her agreeing to see you "just as friends" was PROBABLY just a story she told herself to avoid feeling like a slut if she slept you with since she's only recently out of another relationship. It's like the old "Want to come inside for a cup of tea?". She can tell herself "I'm not a slut. We were just going out as…
/r/seduction05/03/18 02:52 AM
2

I'm an aspy too. Get yourself in social situations as much as possible, talk to as many people as possible and practice holding eye contact and you'll nullify your autistic traits almost completely and become a social god. Keep re-reading 3% Man. It's almost all you need. As for AA, it never goes away, but you get used to it by approaching, approaching, approaching!
/r/seduction05/03/18 02:43 AM
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HAHA, dude. Don't back down on a comment like that. Own it.
/r/seduction03/03/18 12:46 AM
2

I look where I want and never hide it.
/r/seduction03/03/18 12:35 AM
1

If you're pretty normal, you are boring. Two tips: - Change venues a few times. e.g. drink then dinner then miniature golf - Ask questions and let her do 80% of the talking. That's it. EZ.
/r/seduction02/03/18 12:25 AM
1

This happens, but it's rare. In my lifetime, I've probably had 10 women make it this easy for me. I'm not a very physically attractive man but in certain situations I've had VERY high social status/was king Alpha (small social subculture, and I was the shit) which is a magnet for feminine women. Thinking back, I've had 4 variations of "I want to fuck you" - once from a woman I already knew for a few weeks, once from a woman I had just met that night and twice from women I had not even met who ha…
/r/seduction28/02/18 01:48 AM
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Yeah, if she's making jokes about bondage, handcuffs etc 99% chance she's testing the waters so see if you'll freak out if she wants to break out the chains and whips. Have some fun with it. Slavic women are really, REALLY fun from my experience. Also, much higher rates of sexual and physical abuse in their history..
/r/seduction28/02/18 12:52 AM
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Wow, no wonder you are negative. Start with Jim Rohn, Tony Robbins, Don't Sweat On The Small Stuff etc.
/r/seduction27/02/18 08:13 AM
1

I am not special, I have no gift. I just wanted to take control of my life. I read 100s of books, sought out mentors and did what it took to succeed (after many failures). I function too poorly to have an actual career This is a LIE you are telling yourself. I function too poorly to have an actual career This is a LIE you are telling yourself. If you keep using this excuse your life will go nowhere and you will die full of regret. I'm not telling you what you want to hear but what you need to he…
/r/seduction27/02/18 06:58 AM
1

Read some personal development books.
/r/seduction27/02/18 06:28 AM
1

I did well with women when I was a broke student, because I hadn't started a career so yes, a guy without money can get women. But a guy without purpose and passion will struggle. I date a lot of women and take them to very cheap places and NEVER tell them that I'm wealthy. I dress cheap, drive a modest car etc. In fact, none of them have even asked about my income or wealth, but they get the vibe that I am in control of my life, am on a mission etc. But none of this is relevant. It sounds like …
/r/seduction27/02/18 06:11 AM
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Fivesome with her and her family, obviously.
/r/seduction27/02/18 04:58 AM
2

Have dated lots of women from this region. My experience has been different. They've been more masculine/harder to get into their feminine, very strong willed and overall, much kinkier, more daddy issues, more sexually open.
/r/seduction27/02/18 01:19 AM
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I move on if they don't text back the first time. Plenty of fish.. Now and then, like 2-3 months later, I'll 'ping' a few girls who ghosted me with a random text or meme image that does NOT REQUIRE A REPLY (strangely, women are much more likely to respond when they don't feel obliged to [so don't ask questions]). It's surprising how often this will start some back-and-forth which leads to a date. Sometimes you get a number then a day later the girls hooks up with another guy or gets back with an…
/r/seduction27/02/18 01:14 AM
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You have nothing to lose at this stage. Move on and forget about her. 99% chance nothing will ever happen BUT no harm in giving her a call or a quick text to say: "I gave it some thought and I'm only interested in you romantically so lets just leave it at that. Take care :)". 1. She will be very clear on your intentions. 2. You have said "goodbye" indicating you will not contact her again. 3. She'll either think "Thank fuck he won't contact me" or "Wow, I can't believe he can just walk away from…
/r/seduction27/02/18 01:10 AM
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Sounds like you fucked up and didn't escalate soon enough and she lost interest. Never say "OK" if she gives you the "lets just be friends" spiel. Tell her straight up you are only interested in her romantically. Make it clear. Then stop contacting her, leave the ball in her court and move on. She probably won't reach out again. But if she does, you will know she wants you to ask her on a date because you made it clear you do NOT want to "just be friends".
/r/seduction27/02/18 12:50 AM
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Following her around like a puppy. Being overly available. Doing lots of favours for her. Not making it clear through actions that he is attracted to her. Not escalating things. Getting butthurt or being threatened when other guys talk to her. etc.
/r/seduction27/02/18 12:47 AM
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Worst idea ever. You will rarely get a date from giving your number out. You put 100% of the control in the woman's court. A man should be a LEADER. How can you LEAD if you can't even call her to arrange a date (until you hear from her...if you ever do..).
/r/seduction27/02/18 12:46 AM
1

Have sex more often.
/r/seduction27/02/18 12:45 AM
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Geeze, she sounds pretty needy. Tread with caution but definitely let her feed you, then you can feed her.
/r/seduction27/02/18 12:44 AM
1

If someone has done 200 approaches with zero luck, the problem is not their looks it's that they THINK there is a problem. Women can feel the vibe men give off - it comes naturally to them. If a guy is thinking "I'm ugly, I'm not good enough, I'm not attractive, she'll reject me" etc when approaching, it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's also possible this person is socially retarded, awkward as fuck, super creepy etc. Also not good. Every woman I approach, I come from a place of ABSU…
/r/seduction27/02/18 12:41 AM
1

I'm with you on this. Women love to be a little naughty.
/r/seduction27/02/18 12:35 AM
1

FWIW, I'm on the spectrum and and also a massive introvert. But I have learned everything necessary that is against my nature, to seduce women. Now, why do you think a woman is going to be attracted to a man who can't provide and is socially retarded? Hint: She won't (unless she has issues such as hyper low self esteem). Work on yourself. Get into personal development. You need to be an attractive man (good life, pursuing a purpose, focused, direction etc) to attract women.
/r/seduction27/02/18 12:34 AM
1

It's pretty easy to figure out. Guys who have no luck with women will tell you looks are important (excuse). Guys who are not physically attractive but do well with women will tell you looks don't matter because they have proven it (evidence).
/r/seduction23/02/18 09:40 PM
1

Very good post - rare to find on this sub.
/r/seduction23/02/18 07:59 PM
12

Friendzone. You are in it. If you came across as very confident (rather than shy) you'd probably be making them all hoot.. If you'd prefer to be tapping them, next time one of them calls you their husband, look into her eyes and point blank say "I'd rather be the guy you cheat on your husband with" and see how she reacts.
/r/seduction23/02/18 07:56 PM
2

C&P one of my recent posts because it needs to be said: Trust me, looks count for shit (from a woman's perspective ONLY. It's SUPER important when it comes to men being attracted to women). Sure, you can say looks might get you in the door but so does being confident as fuck regardless of your appearance. I'm below average looking, scrawny as hell and absolutely slay. If I could be less attractive, I would be. I wish I was really short as well. Why? Because when I approach a HB so confidently, i…
/r/seduction23/02/18 07:52 PM
3

The internet never forgets.
/r/seduction22/02/18 09:34 AM
1

Make her come to you, always. I've had women fly to me from other states pretty often. Shows they are keen. AND, find a bunch of women who are in your city. Don't get fixated on one. The logistics of long distance flings/relationships are trash.
/r/seduction22/02/18 09:05 AM
1

To get them to pick up the phone, call them. It's that easy. If they won't talk on the phone...what planet are they from? Unless you are awkward AF it'll be fine. If they don't pick up first time I just leave a quick voice message "I'll call you later". Then I try a day later.
/r/seduction21/02/18 10:45 AM
1

Make sure you can go back to her place or your after, if it goes well.
/r/seduction21/02/18 06:39 AM
3

Does she WANT you to help?
/r/seduction21/02/18 06:35 AM
3

Read 3% Man by Corey Wayne over and over.
/r/seduction21/02/18 06:34 AM
3

What do you mean "in the process"? Call her. Ask when she's free next week for a drink, then tell her the day, time and place to meet. This all happens IN ONE CONVERSATION.
/r/seduction21/02/18 06:33 AM
1

Until you are officially a couple, treat her no differently.
/r/seduction21/02/18 06:31 AM
6

Set up a date if she reaches out after flaking and make HER come to YOU. Zero effort on your part. Have her come cook dinner for you at your house. Two strikes (if she flakes again) and she's out. NEXT.
/r/seduction21/02/18 12:38 AM
3

Save this post.
/r/seduction21/02/18 12:35 AM
1

Too bad. If you were slow, your loss. No hard feeling, just learn from it. "If you hesitate, you will masturbate".
/r/seduction21/02/18 12:34 AM
2

Don't do coffee. Friends have coffee. Lovers have a dinner/drink which can end with you at her place, or her at yours. Don't ask "if she wants to". TELL HER. "Let's grab a drink on Wednesday 7pm". Be a leader, be confident, take charge. It's always time to move on to the next one. You should be seeing lots of women at the same time, have lots of options and not get hung up on one or two.
/r/seduction21/02/18 12:32 AM
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Please save this post on your computer so you can revisit when the spark is gone :) p.s. You could have slept with her day one if you wanted to? Why didn't you? Are you trying to lock yourself in the friendzone? Or just lack confidence to make a move? Either way, if you act like a friend (talking on the phone for hours and NOT fucking) she will begin to view you as "just a friend". I'm speaking from a lot of experience dude.
/r/seduction21/02/18 12:29 AM
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Btw, never had the "You probably have a small dick" from a woman but after sex I have more than once, had some variation of "Wow, that was a surprise. I thought you'd have a small dick". Post-sex shit test. How I've responded to that is along the lines of "My boyfriend said that the first time too" or "I do. What kind of men are you sleeping with?" or "I thought you'd have a small dick too".
/r/seduction21/02/18 12:25 AM
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I'm skinny AF and average height. Many of the women I've seduced at some stage before seduction told me they like/prefer tall/muscular guys. I don't even remember how I responded (probably something like "Me too" or "We have something in common" or flexing like Arnold and confidently stating "Thanks for telling me I'm completely irresistible").
/r/seduction21/02/18 12:23 AM
0

What do you mean you suggested this to her? I hope you didn't say "I think we should not text/call and just hang out". Ease up on on the texting/calls. Just do it. And she will want to reach out more so you can hang out more. I used to do the same thing you're doing. Over and over it went well initially, I was able to sleep with just about every women I got to know like this. Then, suddenly, they lost interest. There was no mystery or anticipation.
/r/seduction21/02/18 12:16 AM
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We talk on the phone like 2 hrs a day before we sleep too now STOP. STOP! STOOOP!!! Do not, do not, do not do this. She's going to lose interest fast. Talk in person not on the phone or text. Please, trust me on this. It's fun now, and in a few days/weeks/month she'll be more distant. Recap: GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER IN PERSON, NOT BY TEXT/PHONE/IM.
/r/seduction20/02/18 12:58 PM
1

The problem is in your head. You will find others here who have the exact opposite: fine with day game, scared shitless of night game. Just DO, DO, DO and you'll get over it.
/r/seduction20/02/18 11:05 AM
3

Meet more bro. When you have 10, 20, 30 + women who are interested in you you will never put them on a pedestal again. ABUNDANCE cures NEEDINESS.
/r/seduction20/02/18 10:59 AM
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Glad it was useful :) Good work on waiting and not replying with a wall of text. Yes, unless I set a date on the spot when I get her number (which I usually do as it's your best chance of going out at all), I call to set up dates. They USUALLY answer. Not always. If they miss my call I never tell them why I called just leave a voice message "It's Bob, I'll call you later". Most of them call me back if they miss me. A few don't call back so I try them a day or two later. This is also a good way t…
/r/seduction20/02/18 09:09 AM
1

Find some new friends ;)
/r/seduction20/02/18 08:58 AM
1

Never be needy. Don't think about not seeing her again for weeks or months. You should have an abundance of options (women) in your life. Act like it even if you don't.
/r/seduction19/02/18 01:01 PM
1

Find a friend who is smooth AF with women, go out for dinner with them and watch how they chat to waitresses etc.
/r/seduction19/02/18 01:00 PM
5

Invite her to your place for a drink ;)
/r/seduction19/02/18 06:47 AM
2

Coffee is never a good idea. Friends get coffee. Set the tone and take her out for a drink. Even if it's in the afternoon, not evening. 2 hours is plenty. Most of my dates are no longer than 2-3 hours before back to my place or hers.
/r/seduction19/02/18 05:58 AM
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Trust me, looks count for shit (from a woman's pespective ONLY. It's SUPER important when it comes to men being attracted to women). Sure, you can say looks might get you in the door but so does being confident as fuck regardless of your appearance. I'm below average looking, scrawny as hell and absolutely slay. If I could be less attractive, I would be. I wish I was really short as well. Why? Because when I approach a HB so confidently, in the back of her mind she is thinking "This guy looks li…
/r/seduction19/02/18 05:41 AM
0

Odd thing is, I am a pretty attractive man (physically) so I don’t understand why this keeps happening Looks count for shit. So forget about this at all. Confidence and personality are where it's at. You're probably being too available, needy, not interesting, not spiking their emotions or taking too long to get to the point and ask them out. Post some screenshots of some text convos, blank out names and personal details, and I'm happy to share my thoughts.
/r/seduction19/02/18 12:51 AM
1

Probably a shit test. Or she means something else by it.
/r/seduction18/02/18 09:12 AM
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No it doesn't, stop making excuses.
/r/seduction18/02/18 09:12 AM
0

See a doctor, explain your issue and get some pills. That's what they're for. If it's in your mind (probably), a few rock hard experiences later you will be able able to throw your pills in the bin and never have another issue because you won't be worrying about performing.
/r/seduction17/02/18 12:30 AM
1

IOIs. Google them.
/r/seduction17/02/18 12:26 AM
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she tells me she doesn't hold hands on the first date or kiss. This was a shit test which you failed (see below) or evidence she is a bit insane and has stupid rules. I respect it and near the end of the date I am hitting on her beauty and tell her straight up I would kiss her right now had she not had her rule. You should have gone for the kiss and passed her shit test (or confirmed she does have insane rules). Do I need to tell you the number of times a woman has said something like "But we ar…
/r/seduction17/02/18 12:25 AM
0

MOST of the approaches you make will be met with disinterest. That's life. Most women won't be interested in your and/or available. The only thing you are doing wrong is thinking you are doing something wrong after making FOUR approaches. Go make 40 and report back. The vast majority of responses will not be "Please ask for my number so you can invite me over to have sex with you tonight". You will be ignored, told they have a bf (sometimes true, often a nice way to reject you) etc.
/r/seduction17/02/18 12:20 AM
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Attraction is not a choice. I don't chase. I don't try and make women like me. But I DO put myself in front of a lot more women that I find very attractive than I would normally encounter. e.g. I approach. If they're not into me, that's fine. But if I don't approach, I won't ever know.
/r/seduction17/02/18 12:16 AM
1

Been doing these for a long time. Good for your physical and mental health.
/r/seduction15/02/18 08:52 AM
5

Read it and find out.
/r/seduction14/02/18 07:03 AM
3

You have the "anxious" attachment style. Read "Attached" by Amir Levine and Rachel S. F. Helle. Will give you big insights.
/r/seduction14/02/18 06:23 AM
1

Next time eh? All of these resulted in the expected outcomes. Even got away with some artful nude photography. Funny side-note. I briefly had art classes in college. Long story short, invited a babe from my class over to "help me" because I sucked at drawing and she was good. I drew and painted her nude ("I'll draw better if the subject is interesting") for an for an assignment (we had to chose and object and do it in charcoal, paint, pencil, ink - most people did a piece of fruit, a flower, roc…
/r/seduction14/02/18 02:38 AM
1

"Cool"
/r/seduction13/02/18 06:01 AM
2

Duh. :)
/r/seduction13/02/18 01:47 AM
1

Focus on your career/mission/purpose. This will make you very attractive and you will automatically do a lot of the right things when you are dating women (not being too available, not being needy, not responding instantly etc).
/r/seduction13/02/18 12:45 AM
4

You shouldn't be HAVING conversations over text. The phone is for setting dates, not getting to know one another.
/r/seduction13/02/18 12:35 AM
2

If you are confident and comfortable in your own skin, another male is not seen as a threat. Don't be a needy bitch, don't try and cock block, don't try and control Who cares if another guys bangs her. There are billions of other women out there AND she is not your wife. I have slept with many roomates. No problems at all. Some were one off, others were ongoing for a while. It's fine. Just don't be clingy. See them as fun, temporary experiences.
/r/seduction13/02/18 12:34 AM
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This reminded me of quite a few experiences from my early 20s involving women/art at my place or theirs. Incredibly easy to escalate. "Life drawing" - paint/draw/sketch the female form, she is your model Paint each other's bodies, must remove clothes or they'll get ruined Paint body parts then press them into paper/canvas like a stamp. Boobs and ass are the best for this but hands, arms, feet, everything works. You'll end up naked and covered in paint, then showering together after. I could go o…
/r/seduction13/02/18 12:32 AM
1

Multiple locations for sure. Ask questions, let her do 80% of the talking. Expect you'll end up at her place and yours and have logistics accordingly.
/r/seduction12/02/18 07:40 AM
4

I got out alone lots. Own it. Women will respect you all the more for being confident enough to have fun without friends. PLUS you will meet people and make friends there, for sure.
/r/seduction12/02/18 07:36 AM
4

"I work my right arm out a lot, thanks for noticing"
/r/seduction08/02/18 10:32 AM
1

It's not an issue unless you make it one.
/r/seduction08/02/18 02:44 AM
2

FYI. Recently, a HB10 waitress started at a place I eat at. I flirted with her immediately and asked some leading questions, which gave me the impression she was under 18. (I take women for drinks/dinner on dates and I can't if they're under 18). She asked what I do and I told her I'm retired. She was surprised and said something indicating she thinks I am much, much older than I actually am. Despite that, on a more recent visit [btw, I can tell she is really into me], unprompted, she told me ex…
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:14 AM
1

I've only ever dated ONE woman older than me. The older I get, the SAME the age of the women I am most (physically) attracted to remains: under 25. Two reasons, one is purely aesthetic. The second is logistical. If I ever settle down with a woman and start a family, I will want to know her for at least 5 years before having kids so if she's 25 when we meet, she'd be 30+ before the first child and that's close the biologicial limit for childbirth without major challenges. IMO, it's all about thei…
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:00 AM
1

Have heard this many times and always respond with something playfully homosexual like "Yeah, I'm gonna ask for his number", "I'd put it in his butt", "Almost as cute as my boyfriend".
/r/seduction07/02/18 03:42 AM
3

As posted in another reply a moment ago, you are right, it's much less common to call but that sets you apart, shows CONFIDENCE (an insecure guy who is unsure of himself will text, a confident man will call -- you prove this with your mention of anxity for calling). The problem with texting is it often goes nowhere, or there are long periods of no response, or you give away your mystery or you come across needy. I used to swoon women with online chat all the time and took many of them to bed BUT…
/r/seduction07/02/18 03:41 AM
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I'll give you that most younger people rarely talk on the phone. But the point remains. A protracted conversation over text is a great way to kill attraction, evaporate mystery and remove interest. As for meeting women online, yes, text first but ask to chat on the phone early on and build rapport then set a date. Otherwise you're just another beta orbiter she's texting.
/r/seduction07/02/18 03:32 AM
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CALL. You shouldn't be texting shit back and forth between dates. You should be a busy guy. Talk on your dates, not by text. Leaves her time to wonder about you.
/r/seduction06/02/18 05:16 PM
2

Most of the time if they're flirting with their boyfriend present it's: A shit test to see if he is secure and comfortable and doesn't freak out [test passed] OR if he's an insecure, needy bitch who will freak out/get angry/mark his territory etc [test failed] OR More rarely, they're seeking validation OR Just having fun and mean nothing by it In the case you mentioned, the guy FAILED her test ENORMOUSLY. He was so insecure he had to tell everyone she was "his". Total beta male. She will leave h…
/r/seduction05/02/18 02:09 AM
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They're not hoes. They've evolved this way. If they're not having their 6 humans needs met at home, they will meet them elsewhere. :)
/r/seduction04/02/18 12:01 PM
9

I've taken many of these women to bed. Often they'll keep an eye out for an upgrade or something to spice up their life while still in a relationship.
/r/seduction04/02/18 10:24 AM
2

Sounds like a typical "nice guy" who likes you but is not confident in himself and won't escalate. Easy fix. Tell him you'd like to give him a blowjob. He will accept. Afterwards, you will have sex. At this point, you will be sure that he likes you.
/r/seduction04/02/18 06:43 AM
1

She's been testing you (talking about her ex, stopping you going an further, saying she's not really into you etc). She's also seeking validation by sending the pics. You're not the only one those pics have gone to. Tell her you'd prefer to be the one taking the photos/filming and arrange a date for next week. Be a leader.
/r/seduction04/02/18 06:39 AM
1

Mmm. Just get out there and start getting shot down. First few dozen times may be pretty uncomfortable but worth it.
/r/seduction04/02/18 06:34 AM
4

Upwards of a month? What the actual fuck? You fear of rejection is AUTOMATICALLY causing you to get rejected. Glad you realise this. Stop being a pussy. Rejection is a prerequisite for dating and sleeping with women you are really attracted to. The best way to immunise yourself against rejection is to experience it regularly. The fear never goes completely, but you can act in spite of it. Maybe some day game is in order. Nothing will accelerate the number of times you are rejected (and thus, get…
/r/seduction04/02/18 06:15 AM
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The same voice is inside his head. Except he has no idea if you are into him AT ALL because guys are really, really dumb about this stuff. Women are not. If you think he's into you, you are right. If you want to approach it more subtly, be indirect but still take things in the direction you want. Try some shit like asking "Have you kissed many <whatever your hair color is e.g. blonde> girls?". He will say no and you can ask "Do you want to kiss one?". If he doesn't get this, he's about as thick …
/r/seduction01/02/18 05:43 AM
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Honestly, guys are logic/reason driven. And usually dumb as fuck when it comes from "getting" signals from women. All you gotta to is just tell him (what you feel or want him to do). I had no idea with women when I was younger. Once, a girl I was interested in spent the day with me. Lots of sexual tension but I was a pussy AND wasn't sure if she liked me. It took her saying "I'm going to kiss you now" until I was sure.
/r/seduction01/02/18 05:11 AM
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This has happened to me many times over my 30+ years (mostly both before I knew a thing about women). Usually it's only when a women is VERY attracted to you (through social proof usually -- e.g. she sees you having a great time, hanging with cool people, hanging with hot women or has heard through a mutual friend that you are awesome). Almost zero effort required on the guy's part. Even if he's oblivious to her interest, she will make a huge effort to carry the conversation, escalate, ask for c…
/r/seduction01/02/18 02:59 AM
1

She's not that into you dude. Sounds like she's using you for self esteem. NEXT.
/r/seduction29/01/18 06:06 AM
2

Translation: "You are a weak pussy and I want you to act like a man by being a leader and showing your confidence." You are lucky she has the self awareness to tell you this, or she'd just get over it and leave you and you'd have no idea why. :) If you are not willing to risk rejection, she will see you as weak and/OR think that you believe you are not worthy of her. Be a leader, be confident. It goes a LONG, LONG way.
/r/seduction29/01/18 06:04 AM
1

Naturally enough, I say yes. This was an error. If this ever happens, reschedule. Half the time it's a shit test and she'll go on the date anyway. The other half, it shows you are not her top priority. You ended up with potential cock blocks everywhere at the party, not alone with her.
/r/seduction29/01/18 06:00 AM
1

In 99% of cases, women give zero fucks about how physically attractive a guy is. In 1% of cases, men give zero fucks about how physically attractive a woman is.
/r/seduction29/01/18 05:54 AM
1

Bro, 99% chance she is into you but if you don't do something about it, she'll lose interest. Say hi, chat for a bit and get her phone number.
/r/seduction29/01/18 01:35 AM
2

Ask for their number. Then set up a date. Doesn't get more obvious than that :)
/r/seduction26/01/18 05:11 AM
1

If you do not have her number, you may never hear from her. I always give them my phone and have them enter their number, then I text my name back then and there.
/r/seduction26/01/18 04:35 AM
3

She is your joy, you are her rock. This is normal behaviour from a woman who is in her feminine, and in love.
/r/seduction26/01/18 01:25 AM
4

I might be passing through in a few months. I hear 6th Street is where it's at.
/r/seduction24/01/18 11:57 PM
1

DUDE, I used this actual question to get dates with a bunch of women (and improve approach/flirting skills). Here's how: Go to the biggest shopping mall in your city Go into EVERY store with women working Immediately approach a clerk and ask for her opinion on cologne for men. Be fun and funny. Calibrate to the situation. Often other women in the store will join the conversation and you can flirt e.g. after they recommend a scent, you might say "So I'd be TOTALLY irresistable if I was wearing it…
/r/seduction24/01/18 12:25 AM
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Part shit-test, part her way of telling you not to be a needy bitch. Don't question it or respond directly. I'd reply with humour e.g. "I expect you to hang out and have fun". Leave it at that.
/r/seduction24/01/18 12:07 AM
3

I agree. Once you hit a level of mental/physical maturity, age gaps dissolve and it's really about what stage in life you're at. With similar goals, doesn't matter if you're a year apart or few decades.
/r/seduction23/01/18 03:03 AM
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