Will MGTOW make a dent in feminism?

Readership: All; Single Men;
Theme: The Gift of Singleness
Length: 800 words
Reading Time: 5 minutes

The Influence of Top Stud MGTOWs

Going back to Jeff’s comment that was written under a post long-ago, we have to admit that he has a valid point.  If you think about it, the idea that a secular top 20% SMV man would remain celibate in today’s SMP is a ridiculous presumption. A man like this has a choice of either getting married, or else he can spend his whole life running up lots of women’s N counts. As marriage becomes more abused, more risky, and more unpopular, there will naturally be a greater segment of that 20% that will forego marriage altogether and opt for the steady stream of sluice.

Long-time readers of the Manosphere will fondly recall that Dalrock wrote many hilarious posts about how feminism fails because “weak men are screwing feminism up”.  “Weak men” being those who won’t “man up and marry those h0es”. But now, it’s not just “weak men”, it’s most men.

And as TheDeti described in his essay On Womens’ Response to MGTOW (2021/7/19), this is exactly what scares the $#!t out of women — NOT that any of the bottom 80% men might become MGTOWs, many of whom are !ncels anyway, but the idea that that ONE Ch@d might get away.  Because no matter what their religious beliefs or sexual history might be, all women who hope to marry at some point in their lives want to lock down a top 20% man, even if only to have cute kids and/or a better return on divorce gr@ping him.

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In summary of what has been written by the Greats, a top 20% man refusing marriage, either on principle (c.f. going MGTOW), or a general lack of interest, has several high-impact collisions with the female psyche.

  • It upsets the belief that a man will always be waiting to marry them after they’ve exhausted themselves on the carousel.
  • It casts doubts on their Life Script expectations of “sticking the landing”.
  • It means it will be harder for them to “stick the landing” and doing so will require them to settle HARD.
  • It ruins their hope of marriage to a ‘winsome’ man.
  • It destroys their sense of security.
  • It erodes their brazen confidence to enjoy their “season of singleness” (sleeping around).
  • It relegates those hopeful (and promiscuous) women to be nothing more than creamy-dreamy pump-and-dump slores and thereby puts them to shame.
  • It pushes them to be totally self-reliant sl@ves for The Big Corp™ and to live at the mercy of the government dole. Yes, this “independence” (from men) is exactly what women have been saying they want, but the SIW lifestyle is not nearly as appetizing if it’s the only option they have.

The Wake Up Call™

In sum, the essence of The Wake Up Call™ posed by the MGTOW movement (which is not so clearly articulated by players who avoid marriage), involves the revocation of the most damaging forms of feminine power combined with the pressure of having to assume personal responsibility for their decisions. The lurking specter of being held accountable for their actions is what has wayward women shaking in their pantsuits and seeing Red.

But will women ever actually wake up?

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Back in 2020, KHH argued that…

“Feminists never wake up, they just continue to blame all their problems on men HARDER. “It’s weak men’s fault that feminism doesn’t work.”  “I’m now a 38 yo fat, ugly cünt, with an N-count over 100 and no hunky millionaires want to marry me!  Men are such @ssh0les!”

3-4 years have passed since these earlier discussions.  We are now seeing evidence that some women ARE waking up.  The most obvious is the Trad Wife movement because this is a positive response, but also, Zoomers are observing Karens and Cat Ladies and have put 2 and 2 together.  Thus, many of them are showing more wisdom and discretion about sex.

There have been many other negative responses that don’t really ‘register’ on men’s radar.  These include a daily deluge of PSA screeds, denying men sex, the rage over MGTOW and the Passport Bros, a booming pandemic of escorting / OASIS / etc., and the 4B / WGTOW movements. For most women, anything is better than facing the truth and/or being held accountable.

Conclusions

To concisely summarize the main points raised above…

  1. NOT all MGTOWs are !ncels.  Some are Top Thads.
  2. NOT getting married and being MGTOW are NOT the same thing.
  3. There’s no secular incentive for the top 20% of men to get married.
  4. Feminism does nothing to empower men short-term, but eventually leads to a different sort of men’s empowerment in the long-term, as we are now seeing.
  5. Most women (i.e. feminists) won’t change their patterns of behavior because of The Wake Up Call™ posed by MGTOW, but a few of them will.

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