It is okay to be angry (The real victim of paternity fraud)

Crimson_D82 · 2014-03-14T16:12:57+00:00

You don't need anyone's permission to be angry.

blueoak9 · 2014-03-14T17:42:07+00:00

Whew. Searing.

And this is always the perspective that gets brushed aside by paternity fraud apologists. This man's social father "manned up" and did what the paternity fraud apologists insist cheated men should do, and however well he parented it would not have changed a thing.

VortexCortex · 2014-03-15T01:31:09+00:00

Over simplistic bullshit spewers, meet Mr. Contrary:

I'm the kind of guy who doesn't pressure his girlfriend to have sex, are you?

Nope. Define pressure. Is asking for sex pressuring? Don't tell me you've never bartered for sex with a female before... Come on now. Hell it can be quite exciting and spicy to have sexual rewards (the more ridiculous the task the better, IMO), or to play hard to get -- It's nice to feel wanted. Make no mistake: No matter the pressure applied sex can be denied; Promises of sex can even be withdrawn. I'm not going to live a boring sex life because some inexperienced SJW fools think they know what's best in our love life.

I listen when a girl says NO, do you?

Usually not. I don't really care what they think in day to day correspondence unless they make a more reasoned argument than NO then it's a battle of preference, and I side with my own preference in such cases. Eg: If she doesn't like the way I do the dishes or changes her mind for the billionth time about what color to paint the trim on the tool shed (as if I care) then I don't give a fuck when she shouts, "NO". In the bed room "NO" doesn't mean "Stop" -- "RED" means stop. "YELLOW" means slow down or not so rough. This is because when we're acting out her bondage fantasies she especially does not want me to stop when she screams "NO". That would be disastrous and ruin the whole scene (amateurs, I tell ya what). Just like you practice safe sex, you should practice safe consent by using safe words where consent may be hard to determine from observation of the actual activities.

I listen when a guy says no, do you?

Well I don't have sex with guys so my answer wouldn't have to do with sex. However, I do take guys who say "NO" more seriously than when a woman tells me "NO". This isn't really sexist to realize that for a man to flat out put his foot down he actually feels very strongly about something. I can't tell you the number of times I've said "yes" against my better judgment or to make a compromise when I would have rather said "no". By the time we get to "NO", it actually does carry a bit more weight than when a woman says no to me. This is because I have statistically analyzed the frequency of NO in my relationships with females. They will frequently begin a sentence with "NO" when that isn't what they mean at all, e.g., "No, you see, what I mean is that..." or, "You can't do that! No! [...] Oh, well I thought you hadn't thought of that, it's fine, never mind." Those frequent "no"s don't mean "no". Of course I'm more aware given context. Indecisive or confrontational men can exhibit the same "no" frequency. I refuse to give up the beauty and nuance of human language over some SJW nitwit's rhetoric.

I'm the type of guy who doesn't have sex with a girl when she's too drunk, are you?

Nope. That qualifier "too" is subjective. My definition and yours may be completely different, and probably are. My ex loved to have one too many glasses of wine then shag like bunnies, usually with her initiating and winding up on top. I'm not going to not enjoy consensual sex simply because the prohibitionists are at it again, this time it's not all alcohol, just certain uses of alcohol, e.g., banning the combination of alcohol with sex; It's just as ridiculous a proposition because it assumes moderation doesn't exist and that experience isn't subjective.

I know when she's asleep it's a NO, do you?

Nope. In fact she specifically requested waking up to oral as a great way to start the day. After having tried it myself, I agree, It's glorious. You see, in a relationship our consent is implied in order for spontaneity to exist -- I'm sentient and sensitive enough not to need to ask permission for a kiss, or give her permission to give me a BJ.

On the rare occurrence when either of us said, "Oh, stop, I'm not in the mood right now", we didn't feel sexually assaulted. You see, each circumstance is different and should be evaluated on a case by case basis: As a cyberneticist I say, "Have the sense to decide before you act." Blanket statements like those of the SWJs here are essentially giving people rules to govern action regardless of awareness or decision, that's moronic at best.

However, I have been raped. I have been forced against my will to have sex, and the other party knew I did not consent. In fact, she cut on me a bit too while I was helpless and screaming. I notice my perpetrator's gender is missing from your campaign. I'm a guy who recognizes that females can commit rape. Apparently you're not.

Macdaddy357 · 2014-03-14T19:31:19+00:00

Women do not care who they are robbing as long as they get their meal ticket.

Bartab · 2014-03-14T23:41:25+00:00

The children are not the victim of paternity fraud anymore than anybody else is a victim of their biological donators.

The only victim are the fathers. Both actual ones, and the falsely declared ones.

VaginalAssaultRifles · 2014-03-14T20:02:32+00:00

"Reveal"?

Title	It is okay to be angry (The real victim of paternity fraud)
Author	Kokorono
Upvotes	31
Comments	11
Date	March 14, 2014 1:07 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/20edsw/it_is_okay_to_be_angry_the_real_victim_of/
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