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If you want to hear the details of just how ridiculous the rape allegations are against Julian Assange and the lack of credibility of his politically aligned accusers (who both agree they slept with him voluntarily the first time) then watch this.

anononaut

August 23, 2012

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B4I5F05jNg&t=22m6s

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Title	If you want to hear the details of just how ridiculous the rape allegations are against Julian Assange and the lack of credibility of his politically aligned accusers (who both agree they slept with him voluntarily the first time) then watch this.
Author	anononaut
Upvotes	7
Comments	16
Date	August 23, 2012 6:13 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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As far as I know the women do not have police surrounding their house and their personal freedom being threatened. Therefore the women are not being "persecuted"

On the other hand a man clearly is being persecuted and imprisoned de facto on the FLIMSIEST of charges even after he has openly said he will answer any questions authorities have over video as in often done in sweden.

And of course all this ignores the bigger reality here which is the man is not wanted for rape. It isn't about rape. It's about getting him into a country that will extradite him to the united states which wants to prosecuting for releasing information that embarrassed a lot of the worlds greatest powers and wealthiest people.

The rape allegations as utterly RIDICULOUS as they are are just a means to get him there into the jurisidiction. It's just a set up clear and simple. Rememebr the other high profile person assumed to be involved in the great wikileaks leak, Bradley Manning, has literally been kept in a dark hole in the US without a trial in solitary confinement for over 2 YEARS.

If you don't know that you need to read up about the efforts to extradite him before the "rape" fake allegations were ever manipulated form the girls who both are aligned with political organizations who openly want to prosecute Assange.

Would you believe a woman who was a Nazi if she claimed a jew who exposed Hitler raped her and therefore the Nazi government wanted the jew extradicted to nazi germany?

Pretty much the same here although I'm sure someone will make great moans and groans about the use of the word Nazi and jew and Germany. It's an ANALOGY not a factual comparison. No one is saying they are the SAME - but that they are similar in motivation.

[–]Bragzor 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As far as I know the women do not have police surrounding their house and their personal freedom being threatened. Therefore the women are not being "persecuted"

What a silly no-true-Scotsman... Assange is surrounded because he broke his bail and fled to the Ecuadorian embassy. He did this out of his own free will, much like he left/fled from Sweden out of his own free will. One of the women has left Sweden because of the hounding, so I wouldn't be so quick to claim innocence on the part of Assange's followers. There are many many threads in reddit about how silly the charges are, and how the women should have acted and why it's not really rape, and let me tell you, they're not all civilised and respectful. And that's just on reddit.

On the other hand a man clearly is being persecuted and imprisoned de facto on the FLIMSIEST of charges even after he has openly said he will answer any questions authorities have over video as in often done in sweden.

He is de facto imprisoned by himself, as I stated above, and the solidity of the case, which frankly you and I don't have a fucking idea about, is not relevant. He has been accused and now he has to be investigated. Fleeing the country is not a legitimate exit strategy. And, no, final questioning is not often done in Sweden, especially not with countries with extradition treaties. You can probably not find a single case.

And of course all this ignores the bigger reality here which is the man is not wanted for rape. It isn't about rape. It's about getting him into a country that will extradite him to the united states which wants to prosecuting for releasing information that embarrassed a lot of the worlds greatest powers and wealthiest people.

This is just a silly conspiracy theory at this point. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, supporting this. All we know is that he is wanted for rape (yes rape) among other things in Sweden, and that the US might have plans to charge him, but haven't done anything about it yet. That's it, the rest is just hypotheses, and most of them poor ones.

The rape allegations as utterly RIDICULOUS as they are are just a means to get him there into the jurisidiction. It's just a set up clear and simple.

How are they ridiculous? They might not be severe, but you can't ignore lesser crimes just because there are worse out there. If it is so clear, then how come no one has been able to prove that it is a set up?

Rememebr the other high profile person assumed to be involved in the great wikileaks leak, Bradley Manning, has literally been kept in a dark hole in the US without a trial in solitary confinement for over 2 YEARS.

How is that relevant? Manning is an American, who committed a crime in America, and is currently being held in America. He was also in the military, making it way worse.

Assange on the other hand is an Australian, who might have committed a crime in Sweden, and is currently hiding away in Ecuador, after hiding away in the UK.

Further more, there's no evidence that wikileaks have anything to do with this, and you should not supports Assange's decision to co-opt wikileaks as a hostage in his personal legal battle.

If you don't know that you need to read up about the efforts to extradite him before the "rape" fake allegations were ever manipulated form the girls who both are aligned with political organizations who openly want to prosecute Assange.

No, you clearly need to stop reading "Conspiracies weekly". What gives you the moral right and legal authority to, without seeing the evidence, judge the women liars? And what is this/these "political organization" you speak of? I really hope it's not the Ladies in white again, because working for a while with an organisation that is/was partially funded by the CIA, is not the same thing as being aligned with the CIA. Besides only one of the girls worked with them.

Would you believe a woman who was a Nazi if she claimed a jew who exposed Hitler raped her and therefore the Nazi government wanted the jew extradicted to nazi germany?

What kind of silly argument is that? I would want her to receive justice, but I would not want any country to extradite anyone to another country where the accused risk being killed or treated unjustly. But what is the point of this Reductio ad Hitlerum? Sweden is not nazi-Germany, and your pre-emptive excuse is not convincing since the analogy falls flat if the countries are exchangeable. It only works because it's Nazi-Germany and a Jew, so no, it's not just an analogy.