It needs a name: kafkatrapping

MaunaLoona · 2012-07-15T03:29:42+00:00

Thanks. These arguments are insidious and can be difficult to counter if you're not prepared. Sometimes the accusation is of being white, or male, or white male american, implying that something is owed for ancestral crimes against native americans and blacks.

AndIMustScream · 2012-07-15T01:15:07+00:00

I like it. Coulda used a shorter name, but its good and descriptive.

Jacksambuck · 2012-07-15T06:33:36+00:00

I think the guy is missing a very important point, that makes this whole essay more or less redundant.

What if this kafkatrapping is what they actually believe ?

When he says :

Notably, if the model A kafkatrap is true, the world is divided into two kinds of people: (a) those who admit they are guilty of thoughtcrime, and (b) those who are guilty of thoughtcrime because they will not admit to being guilty of thoughtcrime. No one can ever be innocent.

It is my contention that they actually believe that noone is innocent. To a rational person like the author, pointing out that someone's belief system condemns everyone may look like a won battle, but in fact you're just telling them what they already believe.

You have privilege, you have privilege, therefore all your thoughts are privilege-y and you can never know what it is to be oppressed and you will never stop oppressing.

In this case, pointing out the fallacy is of no use because their philosophy is the fallacy.

ac365 · 2012-07-15T15:09:48+00:00

Wish I could upvote more than once.

Title	It needs a name: kafkatrapping
Author	Vordreller
Upvotes	21
Comments	7
Date	July 15, 2012 1:08 AM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/wkn6q/it_needs_a_name_kafkatrapping/
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