Again with the "rape culture"

Alanna · 2011-06-28T17:43:27+00:00

Great post! Could use a little more proofreading, you've got a couple extra commas in there, and some awkward word structure. Not trying to be a pendant, just that it distracts a little from your overall message, which is solid.

The only other thing I'd say is maybe make it shorter, break it into two or more posts. The point that you experienced sexism before you experienced racism is a major one, but it gets hidden all the way at the bottom-- lots of people aren't going to have the patience to read that far.

shady8x · 2011-06-25T08:45:12+00:00

If anything I think feminists' methods of social conditioning actually promotes rape culture. I have often caught myself thinking "damn, if only I could rape this feminist she would shut up with her stupid shit for a while" and then rationalized it with "it would not really be rape since feminists are pretend people". I have since gotten rid of those wrong rapey ideas(in part wrong because it could secure them progeny which may very well be their plan) and now I just want them all dead, which is better because I doubt they would be silenced by being raped. In fact I suspect rape is exactly what they would want so I will never do that.

You have to take a step back and realize how rape culture came to be. Some guy going by the name of Snark commented on that on avoiceformen so simple and clearly that it just may very well be the truth.

I’m positive the ‘rape culture’ nonsense is a result of rape fantasies.

Woman has rape fantasy, enjoys it immensely – of course, she wouldn’t like to be raped in real life. Nothing suggests that. The point of a fantasy is it’s entirely under your control, even if the fantasy is about not being in control.

So, after enjoying it immensely, she feels guilty, because women definitely aren’t supposed to like that sort of thing.

She turns that guilt into anger at the man who, in her fantasy, ‘raped’ her. Because now she’s had her fun, and is no longer in the mood, the fantasy is not appealing, and the thought of a man forcing himself on her is disgusting.

She’s ANGRY at that man.

But who is he? He only exists in her mind.

So she projects the anger outwards at maleness itself, that is, at men generally.

She is angry at them for ‘raping’ her.

She is really, really angry at them because she enjoyed it.

Add some of the crazier feminist theories – like Dworkin’s notion that men “reach inside women to fuck/construct” them from inside out.

And hey, maybe men really are that bad (how exciting!) and MADE her enjoy that horrible, delicious fantasy.

Yes, she comes to judge all men by a man who does not even exist, and that she invented.

And those men must be punished, beaten, brutalised, imprisoned; they must be raped themselves, to ‘know how it feels’.

And no man may escape punishment. Even if only a small number of men commit rape, every man will be held responsible; we just need some excuse to blame them all.

The genesis of the ‘rape culture’ hoax is the female rape fantasy.

Title	Again with the "rape culture"
Author	jmnzz
Upvotes	10
Comments	7
Date	June 25, 2011 5:34 AM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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