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thetrollking

November 23, 2010

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Title	Survival of the fittest sperm \| Campus \| The Horn \| UT Austin Independent News and Opinion
Author	thetrollking
Upvotes	1
Comments	2
Date	November 23, 2010 4:39 PM UTC (15 years ago)
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[–]InfinitelyThirsting -1 points0 points1 point 15 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes. Humans are built for sperm competition, not male-male competition. Chimps and bonobos don't generally practice male-male competition and female choice--the females most often mate with a bunch of males, thus ensuring the absolute fittest sperm makes it to the egg.

Read Sex at Dawn among other things for more, but with humans: the glans and coronal ridge are a semen scoop, human semen contains protective chemicals in the first spurts and spermicide in the last, every woman's vagina has differing pHs and so will accept different sperm, the pH levels change to be more sperm-friendly and the cervix will dip down to suck up semen if she has an orgasm, on and on.

When society pressures women to not sleep around lest they be sluts, then yes, they'll reserve themselves for the best mates, but that's not how we evolved, and it's not innate. We're like chimps and bonobos, not gibbons or gorillas. Let's keep society moving away from sex-shaming, and there'll be more sex for everyone!

[–]thetrollking[S] -1 points0 points1 point 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ummm, bonobos and chimps do fight. They have different evolutionary strategies than other animals but they still war. They just don't war with their tribe, instead they war with other tribes of chimps.

male-male competition and sperm competition aren't mutually exclusive from each other. We human apes seem to have inherited several different strategies. One being direct physical competition. Whether it's wife stealing and war or football/boxing. The winners get the girls and the losers hope for a pity fuck.

We have evolved several different ways of mating. One being physical competition between males(and sometimes females) and another is indirect social competition(I have a bigger house or nicer car to get the girl, more resources for trading...In that sense we aren't much different than bonobos and chimps where the male exchanges meat for pussy). Another would be display-display competition. Whether it's PUA and peacock theory or threat displays on the street protecting territory or other physical displays. men do display for women and women choose. Whether this is a rock star or a group of boys in, shit I forgot, somewhere in Africa. I read a ethnography awhile back by a cultural anthropologist who was trying to figure out why teen boys were getting up on trains and doing all sorts of acrobatics and displays and why so many were dying so young. when he asked them they point blank said it was to get women and then started talking about friends of their who died after falling off the moving train.

How is more sex for everyone good for society or civilization? It seems the experiment called the sexual revolution backfired quite a bit. But yknow I tend to agree with you. Mate guarding or jealousy is one primary vector for conflict. The problem is that most women don't want to allow men to have multiple wives or gfs, so men are always going to be somewhat jealous of womens sexual agency while theirs is reduced. Unfortunately this means society is likely to swing back into a more conservative climate. One reason is because once men have so much sex they realize it's not the most important thing in the world...I know, I said it...Go ahead and revoke my mancard.

The fact is that so many guys these days get laid much more often than the average hippy did and with many more partners. men aren't as polygamous as women are. We evolved to fall in love faster and bond deeper so we would invest more of our resources into our young so our young would live longer than 28 yr old...

I have known a lot of guys who fucked around much much much more than I did. two of them had more than 100 partners by the time they were 21. It wasn't bragging either. They literally talked about how it messed them up.

There are two types of control women have over men, social and sexual. Guys of my generation are waking up by the day and realizing that social shame works less and less and so does offering pussy. Pussy isn't a buy out for my rights. Feminism is nothing more than a sexual trade union.

Enough rambling, I need sleep. Anyways, I have checked out the sex at dawn book and it looks interesting(haven't read it yet) but I am not convinced the guy has it correct, esp. from reading some reviews. The author was actually on a AMA reddit just yesterday....So if you want to ask him questions check it out, I probably will.