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Ulrika spends £11,000 to have body of 16 year old - other females envious

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August 4, 2009

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1204118/How-does-Ulrikas-new-teenage-body-make-real-women-feel--envy-just-despair.html

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Title	Ulrika spends £11,000 to have body of 16 year old - other females envious
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	10
Comments	19
Date	August 4, 2009 6:24 PM UTC (16 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]kaiise 4 points5 points6 points 16 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 16 years ago* (22 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 16 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Well, if you didn't know, Europe (the EU) determines our laws these days on such matters as the definition of child porn (as well as most other things).

The age of consent is effectively 18 now throughout Europe. Only today the BBC reported about the 'problem' of sexting - teenagers sending each other sexy images and messages. Apparently the police will 'probably' not arrest two 17 year olds doing it. Presumably they would arrest a 25 year old man recieving a pic from his 17 year old gf (child porn). In today's world how can you have a relationship and not at some point send a sexual e-mail, text message etc?

All European nations (in fact every member of the United Nations) has to introduce the same child porn laws in accordance with a treaty signed at the UN. This defines child porn as any sexual image of a person (real or artificial ex. a drawing) who appears to be under 18. Just google 'united nations definition of child porn'.

Any picture of a 17 year old, or someone looking 17, in a sexy bikini or in a sexual pose, is now deemed to be child porn. Furthermore, simply looking at such a picture on a webpage without actually saving it to your harddrive or clicking on the pic itself now counts as possession of child porn (if the police can retrieve it from your hard drive).

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Gareth321 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 16 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

As far as elaborating on my general message:

Feminists have created a society in which it is no longer even acceptable for a man to describe a 16 year old girl as sexy. In fact, if you are much over 20, just glancing at a 16 year old girl in the street can be enough for you to get called a child molestor.

This was very different only 10 years ago in the UK. Then you had sunday newspapers like the 'sunday sport' holding competitions for readers to have sex with 16 year old girls or for 15 year old girls to appear in sexy bikinis with the paper and it's readers counting down the days unitl she could go topless on her 16th birthday.

It is largely feminists who have brought around this change. Now it is women like Ulrika who have given feminists the mandate to do this. And here we have her spending thousands of pounds in order to look like a 16 year old girl. And the Daily Mail, which regularly reports on 'pervert' teachers having affairs with 17 year old girls, telling us all how insanely jealous Ulrika has made ordinary women feel.

So, essentially, anyone who thinks that feminists are not acting at least partly from selfish and grubby motives in locking men up to be raped as nonces for showing an interest in 17 year olds..is blind. And once again, this is still true even if you take the moral position that the age of consent should be 18.

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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 16 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

'you keep using feminist as a blanket term for all women'

Mayby, but I made clear why. Firstly I have no interests in feminists working in the woman's studies departments of southern Californian universities. I'm interested in the feminists who are in power in governments all over the world making laws that criminilise men - such as Harriet Harmen and Jacqui Smith in the UK. The feminists are in positions of power because they have been voted into office by women, and they have been elected by women because they are seen as adressing women's concerns.

There's not much point debating with you because it really isn't rocket science. Ulrika Jonsson regularly write coloumns for her female readers calling men who look at 16 year old girls pedos and nonces and calling them to be jailed for their perversions. Most women express similar sentiments and the female (and male) politicians they elect carry out their wishes through legislation. Now we learn Ulrika has spent a fortune in trying to have the body of a 16 year old girl. What can't you see?

If white men were locking up or criminilising as subhumans a sizeable percentage of the female sex for looking at black men and at the same time white men were spending fortunes having surgery trying to look like black men, you could bet your life that feminists would have the IQ and the honesty to see it as a women's rights issue (and quite rightly). In fact they would probably be going round cutting our balls off.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Saydrah -1 points0 points1 point 16 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

This was very different only 10 years ago in the UK. Then you had sunday newspapers like the 'sunday sport' holding competitions for readers to have sex with 16 year old girls or for 15 year old girls to appear in sexy bikinis with the paper and it's readers counting down the days unitl she could go topless on her 16th birthday.

You think somehow this is a good idea? Having once been a 15-year-old girl contracted to an acting/modeling agency (I did not model; I was there for acting) I can tell you that very few 15-year-old children of any gender are emotionally prepared to become public sex objects in the way that a young lady being discussed in such a newspaper feature would be. I don't think most adults could handle that sort of exposure. But adults can make their own beds and lie in them. Teenagers on the other hand should be protected from the poor decisions they make which could haunt them for life.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 16 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I never said it was a good idea, learn to read. I was pointing out how much feminists have changed public attitudes in such a short space of time. Perhaps from one extreme to another?

Regardless, what gives you the right to extrapolate form your own personal immaturity to that of every teenage girl? The girl in question, Lindsey Drew Mackenzie, seemed to handle it very well. I haven't read about her having any regrets, mayby when she finally runs out of spending all the money she made as a 16 year old porn star instead of spending her entire life in a shitty EastEnd factory she might start crying to those tabloids (for money) that she was exploited.

And what do you think of that little 10 YEAR OLD GIRL that broke down on 'Britains Got Talent' because she couldn't handle the pressure of being judged live by 20 million adults? I guess you couldn't give a toss, or perhaps you don't want to reflect on it because you no doubt lapped it up yourself and don't want to feel uncomfortable.

[–]Saydrah 0 points1 point2 points 16 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Saydrah 2 points3 points4 points 16 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

You're making an awful lot of assumptions about what I do or don't believe. I already said I don't watch television. That should be enough indication that I probably don't support the idea of reality television.

I actually wrote several articles (under my real name, not going to link them) about the way Susan Boyle was mistreated. An adult should be able in general to make her own informed decision about performing on television, but Susan Boyle suffers from a developmental disability and lifelong social isolation. Her anxiety and obsession with Piers should have been enough for someone to intervene and act as an advocate for her mental health. Ideally she should have been removed from the show in order to get care and counseling in a warm, supportive environment and invited to return in a future season with guaranteed safety up until the level where she left.

I do not believe children of any gender should be involved in reality TV talent competitions.

However, you're comparing being a public sex object to being on television for any reason at all. As bad as being on reality TV is for children, being sexualized before they are ready for sexual activity is worse. Very few people can remain well-adjusted when they were treated as sex objects by thousands of adult strangers before they were even emotionally mature enough to have sex with someone their own age.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 16 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

[–]Saydrah 1 point2 points3 points 16 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Do you have any evidence for the following assertions:

Teenage girls are emotionally prepared for sexual contact with adult men
I am somehow sexually envious of teen girls
I am in any way sexually insecure
A singing contest is more exploitative than child pornography

I'm an open minded person, but I've also personally seen young women suffer serious emotional trauma due to involvement with swimwear modeling at a young age. There is a perception that modeling is a glamorous lifestyle, but really the experiences of young models mostly involve having adult strangers behave as if they own these young women and their bodies, to the point that many of them develop eating disorders or addictions.

Teens are capable of sexual relationships but should have them with one another. Adults are capable of abusing and coercing young people into sex in ways another teen can't. It would be nice if there was some readiness test to make someone a legal adult, and I'm sure if there was a way to magically tell how mature someone is there would be 14-year-olds considered adults and 30-year-olds still considered children. But that's not possible, so decisions must be made based on the majority. The majority of teens are not emotionally prepared to be involved in pornography or sexual relationships with adults.

That goes for teen boys too, by the way, perhaps even more so because they aren't taught to say "no" to unwanted sexual contact. They're expected to be elated if a pretty adult woman is interested in them, making it pretty tough for a young man to report sexual abuse by an adult woman.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 16 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link