Does being straight ever work?

VasiliyZaitzev · 2016-07-24T14:36:23+00:00

Don't over focus. You're trying hard "not to fuck this up" because you really want to tap this girl because she's a hottie.

You need to focus, instead, on Amused Mastery, light teasing and making sure you LEAD and she FOLLOWS.

FTR, I am "straight" with girls All Day, Every Day. I tell them what I'm going to do with them, and how much they're going to love it. Create a "narrative" for her to follow.

At any rate, here is my response to a couple of other "How to Date a Model" questions, held over, again. Clearly, I need to turn this into an article:

Pull up your chairs, fellas, and let Uncle Vasya tell you a tale.....

In my time I've dated a few models and a (minor) TV personality (while officially to "short" to be a model she was a total smokeshow and was the "lifestyle" correspondent on a news magazine type thing).

The Positives:

-You are banging a total smoke show.

-You will discover you no longer need reservations...anywhere.

-~~They usually have a line on on where to get great coke, anytime, anywhere.~~ Probably shouldn't mention that one.

-A lot of them are totally cool, and dig it when a guy isn't phased at all by them being models.

-Once you get one of them, you can usually get more later.

The Negatives:

-Narcisism, Entitlement, blah, blah, blah. They get validated from the time they get up to the time the go to sleep. Then they get validated in their dreams.

-They whine a lot about being "objectified"--until you don't objectify them anymore.

-Lots of creeper guys hanging around, offering them cash, trips, drugs, whatever...and, oh, yeah, dick.

-You will get a lot of "Hmm. How did HE get HER?" looks. Bask in it. I've had guys ask me what was up, when my date went to the Ladies', and I generally say "I'm a millionaire and I have a dick down to my knees." OTOH, I have returned from getting fresh drinks to have one of my girls hand me a stack of business cards that she was given in the 10 minutes I was gone. /shrugs

How to Make it Work:

-Expect nothing long term. Assume things will have a beginning a middle and and end, and that your job is to enjoy the FUCK out of the middle.

-You need Solid Steel Frame and Industrial Strength "Don't Give a Fuck". Like "The Outlaw Josey Wales" level DGAF.

-And "Sean Connery as James Bond" level Amused Mastery. Treat her like she needs adult supervision--TELL HER that she needs adult supervision.

-Possession of the Ass is 9/10th of the Law. One of my girls had the absolute Rear of the YEAR and would complain about nobody being interested in her IQ. So I started to refer to her ass as her IQ.

-You ARE the Boss of Her. You take NONE of her shit. It's like catnip for them. You impose your will. One told me she was going to get a tattoo--because really, go ruin yourself to show how edgy you are. So I told the ONLY tat she was allowed to have was a tramp stamp that read "PROPERTY OF: VASILIY ZAITZEV". She giggled. And she got wet.

-Call Her on Her Bullshit. One of them shit tested me (sort of) by showing up to our first date (which was a blind date), wearing no makeup whatsoever. I saw through this in 0.00000002 seconds. She looked great anyway, but I knew what was up. She pulled that again, once, when the relationships was established and I told her she looked like shit and to go put some makeup on, which she did. I have never seen her 'dressed down' since.

-You need to 'Force Multiply' your game. Girls who are 'next level' hot get offered dick All Day, Every Day. You need to double down on gaming other girls¹ and you need to mix in some condescension, liberally. Enough so she knows what the boundaries are. You LEAD, she FOLLOWS.

-Understand Your Quarry. At the end of the day, she's a human being, and a girl. They don't think (at least always) like we think. If we were them, we'd be coked up and lezzing out with other hot models, all the time. Now, some of them do actually do that. But most of them want want every girl wants, they just have tyranny of choice. You are completely replaceable, unless you can get her to say this: "No guy has ever [talked to me/treated me/done this to me] before!"²

-You Need to Challenge Her. Keep her back on her heels. She has to think that she has to EARN your time, such as you spend with her. Like you have 6 other, better options.

It will all likely come crashing down at the end. One of my favorites was an Eastern European number that my friends nicknamed "The Hotness". And then they started calling her that in front of her. It got to the point where they always expected that I would bring her and were disappointed if I didn't. Once, early on, when we were out walking some guy at a cafe stood up, took off his sunglasses and tracked her like he was working for NORAD. I stared him down and when he looked at me, I said, "Eyes on your own paper, son." I made some joke about it to her and she said--without a trace of irony--"Oh, that happens all the time." Fu-u-uck. So that's what you're up against.

She wound up going to Europe for the summer season. As I knew that being the clingy guy who couldn't let go was a non-starter, I cut her loose (there wasn't really another option at that point), met a semi-famous actor....who turned her into a coke whore. It was painful to watch, long distance. So you hit the "eject" button and start over.

So enjoy it, but there's so much shit that can go wrong, just Live In The Now with it.

Good luck.

V/Z

¹ As appropriate. This won't be as necessary with introverted girls. There was one who I am sure would have burst into tears (or had a seizure) if I had gamed other girls in front of her. She hated other guys hitting on her and watched over me like a hawk so that other women were scared to talk to me.

² Most recently I was chatting with a girl I flirt with and she was going on about how she wants to get away from her work, blah, blah, sycophants, blah, blah, and other bullshit. I have created a narrative with her and we have discussed her hanging out up at my place....where I told her I would put her to work in my garden. She was a bit nonplussed by that suggestion and asked what else she might do and I told her she would sunbathe nude by my pool and get fucked a lot. Now, that may never happen with that girl, but she didn't exactly run away, either.

youcantdenythat · 2016-07-24T02:10:21+00:00

Yes, not sure why you think you need to play games. In my opinion you should be straight with everyone, but that doesn't mean you should say everything that comes into your mind.

Saying you had a fun time probably didn't come across as very sexy to her, but maybe other things you did made up for this so she overlooked it. Either that or she sees you as beta now and wants you just to be friends.

I think the balance is to be genuine but don't say stupid things. Train to be strong, smart, and witty. Raise your SMV. None of this is game playing, it's bettering yourself.

Title	Does being straight ever work?
Author	jeyshawn
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Date	July 24, 2016 1:37 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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