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What do you call someone who is beta of his group, but acts alpha with women?

lokepk

February 7, 2014
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Title What do you call someone who is beta of his group, but acts alpha with women?
Author

lokepk

Upvotes 6
Comments 16
Date February 7, 2014 10:21 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
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Comments

[–]MagicGainbow22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Crouching beta hidden alpha?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

All 'alpha' is situational. An 'alpha' investment banker is likely to be as helpless in combat as a well trained soldier is likely to be trying to 'do a deal' in finance.

[–]N3vertheless0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Truth.

[–]elderstorm5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A sheep in wolf's clothing.

[–]lokepk[S] 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'll call him the Lazy Alpha for now.

Lazy Alpha: Sometimes also called latent alpha, this man is the true leader of his group, but allows one of his Betas to act as leader, for his own comfort.

[–]vozkhan0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This sounds like a sigma male, someone who didn't like (or handle) some things about alpha position (such as pressure of being leader) so he cherry picked some shit out of alpha traits and cherry picked some shit out of beta traits to form the sigma male

http://scienceofmack.blogspot.com/2013/07/sigma-male-traits.html?m=1

[–]halfevilnick2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, judging from his physical stature, I'd call him smart. He's never going to be the most physically dominant guy in the room so why try to play a role that will make him a target?

[–]bad_pattern2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

his only motto that I've heard is "All women are whores except your mother and your sister".

imagine the pussy you'd pull if you internalized this idea as well as he has

[–]lokepk[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps you're right, but since I've been growing up I've been taught to respect women by my father. Never insult one, never be a jerk to one, and never ever hit one. I'm a bit reluctant about the first two, but the ideas have been planted inside since I can remember. I actually cringe at the idea of hitting a woman, and being a jerk is a close second.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He may or may not be alpha. In our society, you don't have to be a full alpha to fuck your share of women. I was a theater geek in high school, and I ran threw 4-5 girls from that social circle. With a little bit of clever positioning and situational confidence (you are confident because of your situation / surroundings, not self-derived confidence). Classic example is a Denny's manager who's fucking 2-3 of the waitresses. He isn't alpha at all, but being put in a position of power gives him a little bit of leverage, which he uses to grab the easy nearby fruit. He just has his life set up in a way where he interacts with many women in inherently favorable circumstances. He does quite well for himself, but he might also be lazy, dependent on his current life situation, bad at the relationships WITH those women, etc.

TRP needs to learn to distinguish "Alpha" from "has sex with lots of women." In ancient times, perhaps only the alphas could fuck. Nowadays, anyone, beta or alpha, who can acquire some smidgeon of fame or status, can leverage that into sex. Plenty of rich, beta bucks type guys will rack up a great sex count with very attractive, high status women. Yet all they were getting is gold diggers and women throwing them a fuck after 3 expensive dinners.

You're friend is good with women and very confident, so it doesn't sound like he is one of these types of guys I'm describing. Just saying you can't expect to identify one "alpha trait" like charisma and then assume that they other key traits (like dominance, leadership, assertiveness) must also be there. A person will often naturally have evolved to be just alpha enough to get their dick wet the amount they need, leaving them as a mix of alpha and beta traits.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

A good friend?

You don't need to AMOG your own friends to be 'alpha'.

[–]lokepk[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not actively doing anything. Just happens.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm saying that just because he doesn't AMOG, doesn't mean he isn't an alpha.

[–]runikon0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"All women are whores except your mother and your sister" - David X. Look him up.He's an old school red pill

[–]lokepk[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My mate credited this quote to Napoleon. I'll let him know next time.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Perspective bias.

He is part of your main social group and you are assuming that he values all of your friendships in the same way you value theirs.

If he doesn't contribute much to determining your social settings and interactions, those things are just not that important to him. It seems like he cares more about being with his women and doing his own thing.

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