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“Just Listen” or Losing my Friend to the Alt-Right Manosphere

Broad-Ad1033

December 26, 2022
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https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/10/2051483/--Just-Listen-or-Losing-my-Friend-to-the-Alt-Right-Manosphere
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Title “Just Listen” or Losing my Friend to the Alt-Right Manosphere
Author

Broad-Ad1033

Upvotes 8
Comments 14
Date December 26, 2022 8:48 AM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/ExRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/zvj0rk/just_listen_or_losing_my_friend_to_the_altright/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/ExRedPill/just-listen-or-losing-my-friend-to-the-alt-right.1145737
https://theredarchive.com/post/1145737
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Comments

[–]Broad-Ad1033[S] 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This sounds almost exactly what like my former friend. I'm glad the author was as horrified as I am.

[–]mischiffmaker 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

The article is from September, 2021. Who are they referring to?

[–]Broad-Ad1033[S] 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link

I don't know, I think they hid the identity for a reason.

My friend has taken a similar path. He is a YouTuber who started with this ideology, but only in secret so far. I think he knows it could make or break his channel if he shows that he is alt right & extremely hateful. Of course, he just describes it as political issues, not hate. He sees it all as protecting the country & children but he won't even have a civil discussion with me, just mean rants.

He has become a raging angry, radicalized man who scares me. I was active in his community but once I became friends offline, he told me his views and basically tried to indoctrinate and berate me. I ended up blocking him but saying I was scared for him being radicalized. I blocked him because he would not apologize for tirades and insults, or repair the damaged trust, but part of me felt sorry for him, so I said he can reach out if he comes out of this or stops talking politics.

This article reminds me so much of my experience. I don't think the guy I know has any self insight, even as a life coach, which is INSANE. He helps abuse victims, but in private he indoctrinates people into the alt right and QAnon? It was traumatic. I was in extreme shock at first. He doesn't seem to hate women and lots of his viewers and clients are women. But I think he seems really angry & hateful to almost everyone.

[–]mischiffmaker 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Ahh, I see.

I'm really sorry to hear that about your friend. It's something I've not had to deal with in my own life, but I always hope the ones who get lost do find their way back.

[–]Broad-Ad10331 points 3 years ago [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

Thank you. I am Jewish & female so not expecting to encounter sooo many people falling into the alt right & QAnon. I am in the wellness world & self help. It's becoming toxic online. Also I live in Charlottesville and went to UVA. I knew one of the Nazi rally guys, almost lived with him once. It's ALOT. They do not seem to deradicalize.

[–]mischiffmaker 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I'm afraid it's just the old worldviews being made "normal" again.

I'm an old woman, and I grew up without the internet. While I was fascinated from the early days, I've always viewed it as akin to walking out of one's front door straight into Times Square on New Year's Eve, with all the celebration and danger that entails. The world population has tripled in my own lifetime.

This is such a time of upheaval in human society. So much knowledge, so fast, and so many billions of new humans trying to absorb it. I have a feeling it will be like this for a long time until we learn how to manage ourselves again. But we can never give up hope.

[–]Broad-Ad1033[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's excellent insight. I agree and hold social media mostly responsible & governments for not regulating it! Thanks for your reply!! 🙏 Here is to hope for the future. 🤗

[–]Broad-Ad1033[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Curious, what brought you to an ex redpill group!?!

[–]mischiffmaker 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

I've been following redpill and incel groups for quite a while. It's a concerning trend to me, but I follow it more for my own awareness than anything else.

I find it valuable to hear what those who are finding or have found their way out of those communities have to say.

I've been sucked down the drain of making negative responses myself, and I'm certainly old enough to know better. I've made a real effort to try to respond only in a positive way or when I feel I have something to offer, on controversial forums.

I try to save my venting for those forums specifically designed for that.

Edit to add, that I was mid-50s when I discovered World of Warcraft, in it's first expansion. I literally felt like a child there, having to go through adolescence all over again. Needless to say, I encountered gamer culture...'nuff said!

[–]Broad-Ad1033[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same here! I was blissfully ignorant of alot of these ideologies until social media made them so prominent & viral. It becomes exhausting keeping up with the daily rollercoaster, but I see I need to understand the general zeitgeist before it surprises me uninformed.

[–]Broad-Ad1033[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ii had to join this group too, to deal with QAnon https://www.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[–]mischiffmaker 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks! Fortunately most of my friends and family are not like this, although I do occasionally wonder about my niblings and great-niblings sometimes.

[–]Broad-Ad1033[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was shocking to realize how many around me are in this to some degree. Yikes. It's all connected, all these weird pipelines to cults online. It seems more to have a community IMO

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