My friend found this, I have no words....

Nomenimion · 2013-10-29T22:45:30+00:00

This was also accompanied by the mandatory false claim of having received death threats. I doubt that such a silly, irrelevant video could have inspired such a passionate response.

thehumungus · 2013-10-29T22:38:34+00:00

It's an ignorant circle-jerk video repeating negative stereotypes of MRA and MRA positions so anti-MRA people can circlejerk about it and dismiss everything with cartoonish depictions that don't challenge their views in the least.

Kind of like SOME of the content here with respect to feminism.

2013-10-29T22:55:12+00:00

First, I’ve received a few messages and emails from men who saw a bit of themselves in the cartoon and realized that they’ve been holding onto years-old grudges and insecurities that were poisoning their views of women and, even more sadly, themselves. Takes a lot of guts to own up to that, and they have my greatest respect. I think we’ve all had to do that kind of thing more than once in our lives, maybe not in regards to women, but something. And it’s never easy. So fedora’s off to those guys.

Secondly, a few feminist women have been in touch to say that the video made them see some angry guys with a bit more humanity, and prodded them in the direction of trying to understand them and see them as people instead of internet monsters.

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/debatephobia_a_fear_of_free_and_frank_discussion/13983

Allegations and counter-allegations of ‘phobia!’ point to a disturbing development in the public life of Western societies. The ascendancy of the metaphor of phobia is inversely proportional to the depoliticisation of certain views and outlooks. For example, the displacement of the term anti-Semitism by Judaeophobia represents the supplanting of a political category (hatred of Jews) with a psychological one (irrational fear of Jewish stuff). Similarly, through the narrative of Islamophobia, prejudice against Muslim people is depoliticised and turned into a medical problem.

As is the case with all medical diagnoses, accusing someone of being phobic is really to make a statement about that person’s mental and moral condition. So the diagnosis of homophobia or Islamophobia is not so much a comment on the content of what has been said, as it is a verdict about the psychological deficits of the guilty, phobia-suffering party. When Fry protested his innocence of the charge of Islamophobia, he was in effect rejecting its implied psychological slur.

... Today’s meshing together of moral and medical categories makes it very difficult to have a mature and tolerant exchange of opinions. The labelling of someone’s speech, attitudes or behaviour as a phobia shuts down discussion. It is not possible to have a genuine, substantive debate or disagreement with someone who is diagnosed as phobic - after all, there is little point in taking the arguments of irrational and psychologically disturbed individuals seriously. Apparently, such people don’t have rational political views; they are simply possessed of an irrational mental condition.

... The dehumanising premise behind the narrative of phobia, the systematic refusal to take seriously the mental capacities of one’s opponents, is the apotheosis of closed-mindedness. When people refuse to submit their arguments to full public scrutiny, on the basis that anyone who tries to knock them down is a ‘hater’ or ‘phobic’, then issues are rarely clarified and truth remains obscured. What we end up with is debatephobia.

Title	My friend found this, I have no words....
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	0
Comments	5
Date	October 29, 2013 10:31 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1phwk9/my_friend_found_this_i_have_no_words/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/my-friend-found-this-i-have-no-words.1160124 https://theredarchive.com/post/1160124

Comments